Date: Fri, November 21, 2008, 08:43:12 ET
Posted by: Fife, Foxwoods territory

Heard of "Life on Mars" last night "Reelin in the Years" Really looking forward to seeing everyone this evening at Foxwoods whoohoo!
Safe trip Chan and everyone coming from Boston.
Fife

Date: Fri, November 21, 2008, 08:19:50 ET
Posted by: Chan, Heading out to Foxwoods

A quick last reminder of our Danfest this afternoon. We are meeting at the Stadium Bar and Grill at 5pm at Foxwoods. We are in the Fenway room (slight change). The Stadium Bar and Grill is located near the Rainmaker parking garage.

See you later today!!!

Date: Fri, November 21, 2008, 00:00:34 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

John Lennon sang a razor line before he went all funny on us there in the late 60s. It Won't Be Long, the cover of Bad Boy, and the thrilling entrance on Mr. Moonlight stick out. He belongs there way up on the RS list which I really don't find all that too far off the mark for pop-rock singers.

Did Frank or Ella ever record a rock song? Don't think so, so they're out.

Donald? Well, he's an acquired taste isn't he, his best pure vocal performance is on Don't Take Me Alive. But it's hard to judge since he always uses back up singers on choruses. Can you name a song Don sings without a little help? Can't think of a one...

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 20:48:06 ET
Posted by: Fezzie, boston

Gail,How about some good news,I have Found your briefcase!!For whatever reason when my apt flooded i thought the one i found and tossed from the store room was your's,it was not,going through some boxes that were elevated looking for my overnight bag,suprise,surprise,there it was.Fear not,its still in the same horseshit condition it was in when you asked me to guard it!!! lol.Send me an e-mail and let me know what you would like me to do bury it or send it to you!!!....Fezzie

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 20:44:41 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, TN

Re: Rolling Stone's 100 greatest singer.

This list is invalidated by the lack of Richard Manuel.

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 20:34:22 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, getting ready

All shows at the MGM-Foxwoods are only 90 minutes - doesn't matter who is playing. You can set your watch on it. There is no opening act.

It's different at Mohegun Sun when they play in the arena - although no opening acts.

You are correct - they want the patrons back at the tables. This is the high end new casino too.

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 19:49:35 ET
Posted by: I Got The News, (Dateline NOV 20 '08: Chicago)

I bet this is the guy who makes the Gold Teeth for the Monkey Women in Chicago.

"Dentist gets 3 years in prostitution ring case"
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/11/dentist-who-aided-prostitutes-to-be-sentenced.html

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 18:17:51 ET
Posted by: Double Down, On soft 18

"the casino wants the people back at the tables as soon as possible."

As Donald once said toward the end of a casino show "We're going to do one more song, then send you back to the caverns of vice from which you came."

That really is what it's all about.

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 17:53:20 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour!

The Rolling Stones greatest singer list is what you would expect from Rolling Stone...a piece of shit. I would be worried about my own taste if I thought it were good.

So, it pains me to say, the top 10, for the most part, are fine (not necessarily the order, but they are all great singers, except for Lennon). (I like John Lennon, a lot, but he doesn't belong anywhere near the top 10 in a list like that.) In fact, replace Lennon with Van Morrison, and it would be close to perfect.

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 17:30:16 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Back in Bethesda

If it has already been posted, apologies for the redundancy.

Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Singers:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/greatestsingers/page/1

No Donald, no Levi Stubbs, no Ian Anderson, no Clapton, no Jon Anderson, no Greg Lake, no Jack Bruce.

I'm sure I'm leaving some out.

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 15:45:13 ET
Posted by: Bill, without spellcheck

>multituds of imiatators = multitudes of imitators

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 15:43:58 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,

I found the Rolling Stone 100 greatest singers list interesting. They took great care not to limit it to trained singers or those with good technique, pitch, etc., but they did include those who have a persuasive way of selling a song or a distnictive and original approach. I like a lot of objectively lousy singers (Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Tom Waits, Walter in many opinions) but not all lousy singers are effective. For instance, I can't stand Patti Smith or her current equivalent, P.J. Harvey. Too snotty. Lou Reed, well he's effective but a little goes a long way for me. I find Bjork annoying, but all of these folks are critics' darlings anyway. To each their own.

If a list of greatest singers only looked at technique, it would be full of hammy types like Michael Bolton, Mariah Carey, and their multituds of imiatators on American Idol, a show I am proud to say I have never watched.

Not to say that technically competent singers can't be effective, too. Aretha, Ray Charles, Jeff Buckley, Steve Winwood, Joni Mitchell, all belong on that list.

Donald certainly belongs there, but for the post-Grammy/HOF backlash. Although SD were once critics' darlings, they became suddenly uncool to the hipster critical world in 2000 and remain so, I fear.

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 14:46:08 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata

this summer's Borgata show was the same length as the non-casino shows. There were no opening acts at the casino shows...the casino wants the people back at the tables as soon as possible.

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 14:02:31 ET
Posted by: mickjagger1009, Rome, NY

Big Fan- Why do you think Foxwoods will be a shorter show?

Also, is there going to be an opening act at Foxwoods?

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 12:28:50 ET
Posted by: Art, NL

I don't know what Christie, Dash and everyone is talking about.

All I see is Christie's claim that the guys are doing a private show for the Clinton library. Where is there any proof?

What post was removed, Dash? Did it say more?

Art

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 12:11:04 ET
Posted by: Ha-ha, w

I dislike Bill Clinton a great deal, though my politics run to the left of Kucinich, but without even watching the clip, I can tell you this:

All you need to know about NYBill is that he thinks Frank Caliendo is funny.

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 11:57:24 ET
Posted by: Bill, NYC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj-AdvsiczU

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 11:55:13 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Around

I believe the private show is for a charity benefit for cancer research.

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 11:43:59 ET
Posted by: Dash LaRue, Work

Geoff,
I believe someone was pulling our 'collective' chain. Hoops has pulled the post. I believe the private gig is in New York and the Clinton Library after all is in Little Rock, Arkansas. Does anyone
REALLY know who the private gig is for? Perhaps it does have something to do with the Clintons? Bill does keep his office in Harlem.

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 10:22:23 ET
Posted by: Geoff, El the supreme wiggy office

Private gig at Clinton Library? Cool. remember Kid C. playing at Bill's inauguration?

I was reading my rolling stone last night, which is a fucking horrible magazine, and they have this "Top 100 singers ever" article. No of course Donald or Walter aren't in it, and I'm not sure they should be. But man there were some shitty vocalists in there - Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Tina Turner, John Lennon, Elvis Presley, Little Richard. Bonnie Raitt, who should be in the top ten, was way too far down the list. Same thing with Joni Mitchell. And no Chaka Khan? that just proves the whole thing was meaningless.

Geoff

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 09:47:57 ET
Posted by: Christie,

Luker Private show is for Clinton library

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 09:19:14 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Around

Big Fan - they had all the same merch from this summer, t-shirts, keychains, mugs, cds, and all at the same prices from this summer!

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 08:51:32 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, anxiously awaiting

Thanks for the setlist info everyone. Were they selling the complete line of merch at shows? I'd like to get some of the coffee mugs at Foxwoods tomorrow. I'm expecting a hit heavy setlist tomorrow in the abreviated 90 minute show - but who knows.

Date: Thurs, November 20, 2008, 03:29:40 ET
Posted by: Scouser, 3rd rock

Raj.............How is Frankie ?

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 20:47:07 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

"So I will have to live vicariously through the various reports this time and wish for something unusual and better timed like those great dates up in Bearsville a couple of years ago."

Yup. Let's hope for "something unusual"
like some Walter Becker solo dates.
Especially since he refuses to croak
any C$ solo tunes as "Steely Dan".
Even with Jim Beard in tow. Those
Woodstock shows were amazing. Speaking
of Phoebe Snow.... If you missed the
two dates she played at Woodstock this
summer,don't fret. Phoebe has released
an amazing new solo "LIVE" CD. Phoebe
recorded takes from 2 shows at the Bearsville
Theater in Woodstock, on July 30 & 31.
And the album was produced by John Boylan.

Here's to better times and a something
"unusual". Does anyone know who the
"private show" this week is for?

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 18:18:48 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Fresh from Wellmont

First of all, the set list, all on one page:

Overture: Movies/Fez/Scam (as Don, Walt and the choir join in)
I Got the News
Show Biz Kids
Bodhi
2vN
Hey 19
GodWhacker
Parker's Band ("Thank you, ladies!")
Babylon Sisters (Shake it!)
New Frontier
Gaucho (Walt, with lots of help from the ladies)
Black Friday
Josie
Aja (Keith Carlock, UNLEASHED)
Love is like an itchin' (Thank you again, ladies!)
Green Earring
Peg

Encores:
My Old School
Kid Charlamagne

Outro:
Last Tango (Gato Barbieri)

First and foremost, the band! Absolutely, positively superb. Any concerns about a significant layoff creating a lack of cohesion were swiftly put to bed. Jim Beard fit like a glove with terrific piano presence and a sweet organ solo on Earring. Carlock at his propulsive finest, Jon as sharp and precise as a razor's edge, and those horns! Donald's pipes were as strong and snarky as ever, Walter smooth, concise and clean. The ladies added sheen and soul to every tune.

The Wellmont has great potential, but admittedly needs some work. The loge seats are fantastic. We were front row loge, right side, perfect view, very close. My cousin's seat as partially broken, however. He's a music critic for several publications, and we both made similar observations. The sound system is clear; however, there was a sharpness, a lack of warmth that the Beacon has. Donald's keys were overly prominent at times, bass got a little mushy at times. When the horns had space (Babylon, Gaucho) they were beautiful. The solos were pristine. But within the mix, they were often drowned out, particularly within 2vN and that exhilirating jam ending of Parker's Band. Not sure why - maybe the mixing, maybe the venue.

Most of the crowd was enthusiastic, smart, and extremely appreciative, feeding off the band's non-stop energy, passion and precision. These are master musicians at the top of their craft. There were 2 young couples next to us. Most of the time they sat quietly chatting with each other, and we could see the constant glow of their cell phones as they appeared more interested in checking emails and texting than they were in the amazing music. To each his own. Bored, they collected their coats and exited mid-way through. Fine, we moved over ad had a better view. This was fortuitous, since we had 2 yammering clowns in back of us who apparently thought that when the music got louder, they needed to yammer that much louder in order to hear each other. In fairness to them, when I finally turned around and asked them politely, yet firmly, to PLEASE be considerate, they obliged.

Montclair is a great town for this venue. Restaurants and bars everywhere. We stopped in at Just Jakes for a drink, and had a very tasty, reasonably priced dinner at Cuban Pete's just around the corner. The Wellmont is easy to get to from my town (DC area), 3 and a half hours north. My only mistake was turning right at Bloomfield Avenue (mis-read the rather cryptic Mapquest directions) off the GS Pkwy, and finding myself 10 minutes later wandering through the bowels of Newark. Avoid that if at all humanly possible. Parking's a breeze.

Overall, a terrific musical experience. I do hope the gang will be back there very soon.

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 16:50:19 ET
Posted by: SteelyDana, va

How dare Jay Lustig refer to Walter's voice as a "dry croak" ! :-)

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 16:15:52 ET
Posted by: Steely Fan, NJ

Wellmont review.

http://www.nj.com/starledger/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-1/122708263775740.xml&coll=1

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 15:02:30 ET
Posted by: SteelyDana, va

Apologies if this has already been posted....but, there is a link over on Radio Dupree site for a blog written by the daughter of one of The Ventures. There is a very cool photo of Jeff "Skunk" Baxter and some mention of him in the blog.
Who knew he has a son named Fender??!! How cool is that "-)

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 13:51:34 ET
Posted by: hoops, on lunch break

Paul/Fezzie/Whomever else it might concern:

I definitely would love to attend any and all shows this week. Unfortunately, there are about 6 or 7 things that have combined to make it not possible for me to come out. If it were only one or two of those reasons, I could slip past those and make it. To begin with, there's a lot of pressure at work and it doesn't end there. I especially would love to get out and see Jim Beard and Shep play. It would be fun to see them in the fall and on and on...

So I will have to live vicariously through the various reports this time and wish for something unusual and better timed like those great dates up in Bearsville a couple of years ago.

Thanks for your good thoughts and messages--they are much appreciated.

Jim

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 13:08:09 ET
Posted by: Mark, North of Boston

Mark,
So glad your feelin alright. Whew! didn't know what was the haps.
Take care and get stronger.
Mark from the N of Boston

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 12:54:24 ET
Posted by: LC, DLED

Considering Fagen's hatred for being recognized in public like that, I'm surprised they'd go to a place around the block on the day of the show.

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 12:30:26 ET
Posted by: Dugan, This Dirty City

So on a recommendation from a friend we went to some Italian place right around the block from the Wellmont. We asked for a seat in the back, and guess who's two tables behind us. Righto. Pretty much the whole lead section. Herington...Carlock...Fagen. Don's voice was honking away the whole time, people were laughing at his jokes and shit. I played it cool as they left and didn't gawk. My wife said Carlock looked like a bear. They passed unnoticed until some schemdrick got up his nerve and was all, "have an awesome show Steely Dan!" Then they all scurried out before anyone decided to get weird on them...

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 12:21:27 ET
Posted by: Dog Breath,

Sounds like they should have gone ahead and booked the dates at El Monte Legion Stadium.

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 11:46:48 ET
Posted by: Mer., Boston

Perhaps the limited leg room and space at the Wellmont was to eliminate the opportunities for dancing and head bopping?
Bastids

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 10:51:01 ET
Posted by: Janie Runaway, NY

Hmmmm, the Wellmount sounds a bit like a school auditorium -- drafty, bad sound, lots of strict security. I had higher hopes for that venue.

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 10:19:37 ET
Posted by: ghiagirl, NJ

Marget -I too was disappointed with the lack of movement from the audience. Not only was there no dancing but not many people even head bopping. Trying to be respectful to the people behind me, (I was fourth row too) I waited until the encore, Kid Charlemagne to get up and dance. Security came over and told me I had to sit down!!! I did get a wave from Cindy - guess you know you go to too many shows when they start to recognize you.

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 09:34:41 ET
Posted by: getdelc4tro, pasbocelva

bopasvivara

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 08:29:05 ET
Posted by: Steely Fan, NJ

I called The Borgota to see what kind of discount they might offer me on a room Saturday Night. They asked for my player's card #, and told me I could have one free. So if you play there and are attending the show, it wouldn't hurt to give it a try.

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 02:37:01 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston

Oh that hoopster,Are you comming to foxwoods Jim?

Date: Wed, November 19, 2008, 01:28:43 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Just back from Jersey

I really should be going to sleep, have to get up and be to work at 9 BUT after the massive change from last night to tonight, who could wait to post the details? Not me!

I'll admit, last night I was rather disappointed with the show. The sound and the crowd, it just wasn't the best the Dan could do. But tonight, whoo boy! The whole thing came together! Except for a little bit of feedback mid-show, the whole thing sounded and looked really great. The audience was reacting nicely, but a rather stiff crowd as no one seemed to want to get up and dance, even in the front where we were sitting. I was worried after last night, but was really hoping it was just a fluke and tonight would be much better, and thankfully the band and the crew didn't disappoint. You could even tell from the energy of the musicians and their interactions with each other that tonight was much better than last night!

And PS, it was mofo FREEZING outside and while I was warm inside last night, tonight I was much closer to the stage and felt a major draft from a backstage door. Brrr! Doc and I later found out that there are no dressing rooms in the theater, so the band was walking in from two trailers in the back parking lot - no wonder half of them came onstage in winter coats!

My spirits have definately been lifted, as this was the Dan I've come to know and love. I swear, I felt like I was in heaven, being fourth row center, seeing a much improved show, listening to such an amazing group, and Jim Beard is still fabulous. I thought of chris in NH when we took our seats and I was able to read exactly what the keyboard said, so glad I could pass that info along for you.

And now, before I retire for the evening (or is it morning?) I just want to send out much love to my Boston friends. I would love to go to Foxwoods, but it's just too much of a haul out, not to mention the drive to Borgota on Saturday (that and a few other reasons). But lift a glass for me at the Danfest, do some serious cheering if Carlock takes an Aja solo, and I'll be looking forward to your text messages, lol!

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 23:28:23 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Fezzie: Last night that was just a little joke on hoopsie's part. You didn't have to wait to talk ;-)

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 23:27:07 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Kid c; outro

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 23:08:10 ET
Posted by: chris, nh

GM, you are seriously the best.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 22:59:07 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston

I'm here margaret,just wanted to wait until you were done,bless you and will miss you in conn.best wishes hon!!!

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 22:54:58 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Encore: my old school

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 22:54:08 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

We think Don just gave the plates a thumbs up

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 22:49:10 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,

>Jim Beard has a Hammond XK-3

The two-manual version? I got to play one last weekend and it was amazing! I'm a tube/analog fan but this axe sounded like the best vintage B3 I ever heard. It belonged to Jim Alfredson of Root Doctor and Organissimo, a killer player. http://www.organissimo.org/

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 22:47:23 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Peg

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 22:41:11 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Green earrings

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 22:35:46 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, watchin' TV with Fife

Mark - you are a sight for sore eyes!! Sorry you won't be at these shows but hopefully catch you in '09, if we dare hope for another tour! Take care and get lots of rest, you have to make up for all that lost time here!

xo
G

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 22:35:10 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Supremes

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 22:26:18 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Aja

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 22:20:54 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Josie

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 22:17:25 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Parkers band

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 22:12:16 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Black friday

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 22:06:45 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Gaucho

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 22:00:36 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

New frontier

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 21:54:13 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Babylon sisters

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 21:46:54 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Godwhacker

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 21:44:49 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Walter pointed 2 docs plates and said i like it

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 21:39:25 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Hey 19

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 21:32:37 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

2vn

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 21:27:21 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Don totes noticed docs plates, bodhi

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 21:19:27 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Showbiz kids

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 21:13:13 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

I got the news

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 21:08:04 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

3 girls. 3 fros. 3 red belts

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 21:06:42 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Most intense carlock solo EVAH! scam

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 21:03:21 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Fez

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 20:59:11 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Showtime! movies

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 20:43:57 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Doc and i have amazing seats! i haven't been this close since roseland

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 20:38:26 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Chris from NH:

Jim Beard has a Hammond xk-3

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 19:07:21 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, Not in NJ @ The Wellmont :>(

I am soooooo jealous of all of you who went to the Wellmont to catch SD last night and also of those who are going tonight. Especially you GM, you are going to both.

I've had a great run of concerts since May.

May: Steve Miller Band
July: The Police; Steely Dan(Greek Theater, Berkeley CA)
August: John Mellencamp; Steely Dan(WFCFTA, Santa Rosa CA)
September: Tony Bennett
October: Tower of Power(40th Anniversay Show!); Jaguares
November: Vicente Fernandez
December: AC/DC

I'd love to add another SD show to cap off a great SD year.

Well wishes to all those attending tonight and on Friday at Borgata!

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 18:37:24 ET
Posted by: Mer., Boston

Hey Mark---- so glad to hear your "voice" again on the blue. Take care and I hope you continue to feel better.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 18:35:12 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston

Well Margaret,I'll have none of that!!! Free drinks for any female comming to Foxwoods and plants a kiss on my cheek with lipstick!!!! Chan and Steely Doc will be my bodyguards!!!Are Pete and Shari comming?I've waited for years for a kiss on the cheek from Pete!!!!.....Fezzie

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 18:17:55 ET
Posted by: Duth, North Caldwell, NJ

Off to the Wellmont for show 2.Made it home in 8 minutes last night! I think tonight is THE night!

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 17:09:45 ET
Posted by: Chan, Boston

Gald to hear you are doing better Mark. You will be missed, and we will be thinking of you Friday.

Chan

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 16:41:13 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown cubicle

2 very cool photos of WB on Sandrine Lee's web page:

http://www.sandrinelee.com/

Select Portraits, then go to page 3, click on the the
top left and bottom middle squares

Page 2 has a photo that's on his website

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 16:05:53 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Gettin' ready again

Margaret is totes going to AC, and back to Wellmont tonight! Speaking of which, Steely Doc and I will be meeting up at Just Jakes before the show, if anyone is interested in meeting up beforehand. Remember, 10% off your tab if you tell them you're going to see Steely Dan! (We should always be this lucky. If only this worked with everything else like gas and clothes "I'll be wearing this to see Steely Dan!" "Oh, in that case, that's ten percent off!") It's on Park Street, just a few blocks up from the theater.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 15:16:14 ET
Posted by: steely dana, va

Mark / Boston Rag:
Only know you from here at The Blue, but, so glad to read that you are back . Hope you continue to feel better !!

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 14:23:40 ET
Posted by: Web Search, screen

Blog on last night's show.

http://www.baristanet.com/2008/11/hey_nineteen.php

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 14:15:27 ET
Posted by: Janie Runaway, NY

Mark / Boston Rag,

I don't know you (except for here) but you've been in my thoughts and I'm awfully glad to see you back and better.

Margaret, are you going to A/C?

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 14:13:56 ET
Posted by: angel,

MARK!!!!!

So good to hear you are doing better. Missed you.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 13:58:48 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, Wellmont bound

Boston Rag

glad to hear you are well!!

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 13:52:23 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One,

Best news I've heard all month, Mark. We surely have missed you around these parts!

Thanks to everyone for all the show reports. I'm missing y'all and hoping that we can get together very soon....

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 13:35:01 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Brag, missed your post below mine, glad you're back with us!

GM thanks for the info! I believe Jeff used a Nord Electro, pretty much the digital keyboard of choice these days for imitating rhodes, wurlitzer, clav, and b-3. Makes sense they wouldn't go with the expanded keyboard setup for just a few nights.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 13:17:08 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Mark, welcome home.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 13:03:40 ET
Posted by: hoops, on lunch break

Mark: Thrilled you are up and in the saddle again! God bless you.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 12:58:01 ET
Posted by: steelybarry,

Is that a question CB?

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 12:51:23 ET
Posted by: Craig B.,

B Rag
To to hear you are back and (getting) well

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 12:47:51 ET
Posted by: HeyMike, These Suburban Streets

Happy you're out Mark. To your health.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 12:44:29 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach

B-Rag,

Welcome back, and glad to hear you are well. I don't know you, except from The Blue, but like your style. It's always said when a Dan brethren goes through undue trouble.

I hope the steroids didn't puff you up, like they did to me.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 12:34:01 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Not going to Foxwoods

MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so glad to hear (or is that read?) an update from you, I was certainly worried as I'm sure many of us were. Glad to hear you're doing better my friend!

By the by, I'm not going to Foxwoods, don't know why people just assume I'm going to every show :)

Chris, sorry for the no mention about Jim Beard. He played a grand piano and some sort of keyboard (from the balcony I couldn't say what kind, but it was red like Jeff Young's. Maybe another red Wurlitzer?). Even though I miss Jeff Young, I thought Jim Beard was absolutely fabulous! Tonight I'll be on the floor with Steely Doc, so hopefully I'll get a better look at what he's playing tonight.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 11:46:03 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Thanks for the updates from everyone. Did Jim Beard get a chance to blow? DId he have a grand piano, or just keyboards? Keyboard details are often overlooked here and indeed by the general public ... makes me sad.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 11:44:18 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Home at Last

Hey Blue!

After 99 days in hospital and rehab, I’m finally back home. I want to thank everyone for your thoughts, prayers and well wishes the past few months. It wasn’t looking good there for a time, I was diagnosed with a rare viral lung disease (I don’t smoke) that took quite a while to get under control with the right mix of antibiotics and steroids. I feel great now but still have some recovery to do.

While I was in the hospital, the things that kept me from going insane were family, friends, St. Jude, lots of Steely Dan, some great Blue postings and a 14 film Hitchcock marathon on my laptop DVD player. It was a long 3 months but I’m glad to be back!

Hopefully Walter will start solo touring in ’09 and follow it up with Donald for a new Steely Dan CD!

Once again, thanks for all your thoughts these past months!

Fezman – good talking to you last night on the phone. Believe me, I wish I was joining you, Denise, Chan, Margaret & the rest of the Blue gang at Foxwoods. It’s a little too soon but we’ll see each other down the road for sure!

Mark in Boston

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 11:14:50 ET
Posted by: Joey,

" Just back from Montclair. My 4th show of '08 and was probably my least favorite of the tour. Music was fine, but I thought the break was evident in the performance. "


WHAT ?! .. !!!


" Didn't care for the venue. Sound was just ok. Drinks expensive, only available upstairs, LONG lines. Roaming "glowing" concessions were very distracting throughout the show. Was 8th row center, seats were tight, uncomfortable, no leg room. This place needs to make some changes if they are to continue charging Beacon prices. "


This makes young Joey very sad .


J. " Snuggles " Fly !

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 11:08:53 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando

Thanks for all the input. I've always wondered if I went to a casino show might I run into Donald playing some 10/20 no limit hold 'em at about 3 a.m., making eyes at the 23 year old cocktail waitress in the push-up bra.

Not that she needs it.

And not like Donald couldn't put together a decent home game with the road crew if he wanted to.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 11:00:53 ET
Posted by: WellmontBlows,

Reason for the mini-tour? CASH. Only conceivable reason. Tickets for these NJ shows are TOP dollar. Casinos pay better than regular venues. And to whoever said The Wellmont is a better venue than The Beacon, please PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE. The Wellmont has zero mojo.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 10:55:47 ET
Posted by: My theory, On the tour

Last time I checked, Foxwoods and Borgata aren't exactly holes in the wall. I'm sure they paid well enough to justify a gear-up, and the Wellmont dates fit in nicely. I don't think it's anything more than that. If the casino dates were instead two more theatre shows, then you might be onto something.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 10:43:53 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Gettin' ready again

Casual Fan, they're doing a coporate gig this week and scheduled some public shows around it. But I was amused with your other ideas. The thought of someone owing a gambling debt and paying it off with a concert sounds like a good idea to me!

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 10:25:36 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando

Folks, I am sure this was speculated about quite a bit on here in the summer, but I missed it ... what is the working theory right now on these four shows, so far removed in time from the Summer part of the tour? Just seems so odd. Is it:

1) When the tour was first booked they agreed to do a certain number and ran out of time when it came to booking venues due to solo projects?

2) Just piss poor booking procedure for the venues?

3) Working on a live CD and figured to have four shows late in the game just to clean a few things up if they felt they needed to?

4) Someone owes a gambling debt to Foxwoods and Borgata?


Any other theories out there?

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 10:03:04 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Thanks for all the reports, GM! You're the best...so it's fun for you posting those from the show, it's fun for us!

This is a page to Deborah Prael aka "JerseyGirlAgain"-- please check your email. Seems to be email problems. Post an alternate email or I can post a message of some sort here.

Regards,

Jim

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 09:32:51 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Gettin' ready again

Wellmont...Wellmont...what can be said?

I'll be perfectly honest, this was not my favorite show. I've seen SD a bucketload of times and there were a lot of factors last night that just made the whole thing seem rather awkward. I won't judge or point fingers, because I don't think the venue was outstanding, so that could be part of the problem, but between sound problems, lighting, a very drunk audience, and those holes in the ceiling, plus one guy hollering out ridiculously loud at Walter when he was trying to announce a crew member's birthday and Donald exiting the stage during the band intros, not to mention those cramped seats in the balcony and concessions staff walking around with lit-up beers and waters, the whole thing just felt off. I'd like to chalk it up to the fact that this is only the first show and they haven't played together in months and the venue is still under renovations and I'm holding out hope that tonight will be much better. It was still exciting to see my favorite band onstage and Jim Beard was absolutely amazing! I'm sure it isn't easy for this group to get back together after several months of working on other projects and maybe quick rehearsal and trying to get what crew from the summer are still around to put together a show in a theater that's still renovating. I'm hoping the floor seats have more leg room!

The Danfest was great, at this bar a few blocks away called Just Jakes - if you mention you're going to the concert you get 10% off your tab before the show and 10% if you go back after the show. And they were playing a lot of Steely Dan and Donald Fagen solo on the stereo, which was awesome. I don't know what everyone's plans are for tonight, but I'd recommend Just Jakes again for a meetup.

And thanks to Jim as always for posting my texts :)

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 09:18:11 ET
Posted by: Wellmont Attendee, up there

Re: sound problems.

Right after New Frontier, DF said into his microphone for all to hear "Doc (a sound tech?), I can't hear my voice." Then while Walter was doing band intros, he exited stage right. I suspect that it was related to his sound issue.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 08:43:14 ET
Posted by: Web Search, keyboard

Recent article on Sam Yahel

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/music/index.ssf/2008/11/sam_yahel_draws_upon_variety_o.html

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 07:52:46 ET
Posted by: back2bass6, law

at 12 noon yesterday, my daughter calls me to advise second row dead center for 100/ticket. seen a dozen SD shows, and i'll take a bit of a tight seat, to see 'em at a venue like this, Beats Beacon by a long shot.

rarely have i seen the energy as i did last night. so close, i almost got spattered by DF's spit. they were so into it, you cannot fake that, as evidenced by the passion in their faces.

show biz was a delight. still, i'd prefer no babylon, kid c, peg, josie, and the usual suspects, but i guess they gotta do that stuff. Gimme negative girl, shame about me, and some of those lesser popular tunes which really define the gift of their writing.

having seen Tower of Power two nights prior, and, as a professional bassist, I am not sure that i could do better within a 48 hour period. Garibaldi and Carlock? Are you kidding?

They all may be aging, but both bands at the TOP of their game.

wish people would stop texting from these shows, the bright lights are bothersome..that being said, i even took a few snapshots from my cell phone, i couldnt resist.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 04:34:54 ET
Posted by: beaubo, CLE

Forgot about this brief interlude of dates. But, I was visiting my sons in Baltimore yesterday when I had the epiphany. So, zipped up on Amtrak. Snagged 2nd row center in loge/1st balcony. Will burn some airline mile to get home.

Its currently 430a here at Newark airport!

Glad I made the effort to catch the show. Was mildly surprised that there were no tweaks in the set list. That said, I hope that 'New Frontier' becomes a setlist stalwart. Fantastic song, gets the crowd pumped and showcases DF solo stuff.

I agree that the seating was rather tight, luckily I was on an aisle and had an empty seat next to me.....it was just meant to be!!

I thought the sound was just fine, not muddy, not crystal clear like Beacon or Santa Rosa. Crowd was loud but mostly in their seats.

I still think Green Earrings sounds too much like Godwhacker, so one of em needs to go! Its a shame that 'Blues Beach' or 'Everything Must Go' couldn't swing into the rotation if the band wants an EMG setlist presence.

Hoping that 'Caves of Altamira' and 'Nightfly' will make the cut for the next go-round of deep cuts.

BTW, its realy a shame that there is essentially ZERO interaction between DF and WB onstage- no dialogue, no eye contact, no jamming together. Its Steely Dan right? Not Steely PLUS Dan!!!!!! Even Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth did a serviceable job of palling around onstage, despite their offstage rancor. Same with Daltrey/Townsend and Jagger/Richards, both of whom have basically no relationship offstage.

Niggling details, for sure.

Overall, with only a couple of bands that tour that I still care about (getting psyched for AC/DC, another summer of EWF and hometown favorites- Michael Stanley Band!!), its great to sneak another Steely Dan performace in.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 01:57:10 ET
Posted by: WellmontBlows, Philthydelphia

Just back from Montclair. My 4th show of '08 and was probably my least favorite of the tour. Music was fine, but I thought the break was evident in the performance. Nice seeing/hearing the trio of lovely ladies singing. I think I've just been spoiled by catching so many shows this year and I'm growing very tired of the setlist.

Didn't care for the venue. Sound was just ok. Drinks expensive, only available upstairs, LONG lines. Roaming "glowing" concessions were very distracting throughout the show. Was 8th row center, seats were tight, uncomfortable, no leg room. This place needs to make some changes if they are to continue charging Beacon prices.

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 00:38:13 ET
Posted by: chris, nh

what was up with don leaving the stage? and the sound problems?

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 00:35:25 ET
Posted by: Steely Fan, NJ

Back from the Wellmont. The balcony seats have little leg room and are too cramped. Don described the area as "his old stomping grounds" and later said (in a mock Jersey accent), "it's fuckin' great to be back."

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 00:19:44 ET
Posted by: Dr Who, Detroit

Hey, just wanted to say thanks for those live updates, and let you know they were appreciated!

Date: Tues, November 18, 2008, 00:14:52 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach

Thanks, GM.

You da best.

I am so freakin jealous.

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 23:13:11 ET
Posted by: Greg M, home

OK. Typical of the 2008 setlists - not bad. it's like they never took a break. good set, bet it sounded great

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 23:11:52 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Soon to be in Montclair

Props to you Margaret, nicely done!

Do you like the Wellmont venue?

How were the acoustics?

Jive

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 23:02:54 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Outro. last tango or whatevah

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:58:25 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Stop interrupting the song, Fezzly!

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:57:08 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Kid c

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:52:54 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston

Rapid fire one hour fifty-five AWESOME!!!! thanks Margaret

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:50:23 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Encore: my old school

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:42:33 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

PEG!

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:39:20 ET
Posted by: Greg M, home

lips are zipped =)

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:37:46 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Greg--- SHHHH!!! I'm listening to the show!

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:36:38 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Green earrings

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:33:33 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Ok he's back

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:33:24 ET
Posted by: Greg M, home

WHAT? WEIRD.

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:32:29 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Um don left the stage

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:30:21 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Supremes

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:21:50 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Now it's time 4 aja

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:17:19 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Don's mixing up songs. announced aja then corrected himself. josie

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:12:04 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Parkers band

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:07:55 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Time 4 a lil blues says don. black friday and the crowd goes wild

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:04:32 ET
Posted by: Greg M, Not at the show...

This is fun stuff, thanks GM, keep em coming!

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:02:35 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Walter doin gaucho! aw hell yes

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:02:11 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

DF said he was having probs hearing his own voice

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 22:01:17 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Whoa! Sound probs!

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 21:55:16 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

New Frontier

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 21:48:48 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Babylon sisters

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 21:42:53 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Break out the melodica! godwhacker

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 21:34:43 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Hey 19

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 21:28:05 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

The crowd is going APE! 2vn

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 21:22:47 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Bodhi!

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 21:20:19 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

No lcd screen

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 21:15:04 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Showbiz kids

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 21:09:54 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

I got the news

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 21:03:38 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

3 girls, 3 fros

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 21:01:23 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Scam

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 20:59:13 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Fez

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 20:56:02 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Set list! movies

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 20:40:41 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

I think sam yahel introduced ari honing on drums!

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 20:29:09 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret texting the setlist , Montclair, NJ

Walt W n Mike Leonhart plain with sam yahel

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 19:59:32 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston

Ok,all of you text techies start texting we want "costanza" details, details,who's at the "danfest" who just went to the toidy!!!margaret,who are you eyeing tonite!!lol....c'mon you maniacs,give us some info!!!!

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 19:31:00 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba, My Rival

"Results show that scarring enhances women's ratings of men's attractiveness for short-term, but not for long-term, relationships."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/sciencenews/3463442/Facial-scars-can-help-win-a-womans-heart.html

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 18:47:04 ET
Posted by: Duth, North Caldwell ,NJ

Soundcheck behind Wellmont!!!!You could hear pretty well(not as good as my 4th row seat tues will be.)New Frontier,Black Friday,Gaucho-no vocals only the girls,and Godwhacker.It started @5 and I left them still warming up.Freddie sounded good!You could hear the whole show out back for a cheapo version in these hard times!

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 17:22:05 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston

I cannot express my concern for him enough and his current state of recovery,I wish him the best but have had no contact.See you friday...fez

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 16:56:31 ET
Posted by: Denise, H cubicle

Fezzie, can't wait...wish Mark was going with us. Won't be quite the same without him and your tux :)

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 16:49:38 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston

Hi Denise,See you at foxwoods!!!Join the other damsels and knights!! lol

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 16:43:11 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown cubicle

Greg:
http://www.steelydan.com/2vncorrect.html#daveroger

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 15:36:51 ET
Posted by: Greg M, request

Can anyone point me to the SD.com link where Walter complained that the TvN CD art was supposed to be green and not orange. I can't seem to find it on the official site but i have a feeling it's still there. Thanks in advance.

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 14:16:44 ET
Posted by: fezman, boston

Lady G and the Fifestar,Alas,it is not to be for the one show i will be attending at foxwoods.I have traveled hither and yon in search of a tux but to no avail as the royal supplier hath discontinued thine style of armour.Fear not though,for i shall rise again from this foul pit,ablaze!!In the latest white armour,This,injustice will not stand!!"don't fire until you see the whites of their eye's" "I shall return" "Damn the torpedo's full speed ahead" "Hey buddie can you spare a dime" "Read my lips!! no new taxes". Until we meet again i remain yours in chivalry and semi-original material......Fezzie

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 12:56:02 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @work

from yahoo news....


When Black Friday comes

Does anyone have any money left? That $64,000 question may be subject to a price reduction the day after Thanksgiving. The unofficial opening of the holiday shopping season is commonly known as “Black Friday,” "black" for turning a profit. But this year the word may actually represent the spreading economic gloom. Retail sales recently suffered the worst monthly drop on record, and the entire world wants to know whether American consumers will shake loose those remaining dollars to spend on gifts. The Web will certainly help, with sneak peeks on bargains, rumors about deals, and leaks on sales abounding.

Looking forward to find out tonights set list.

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 12:54:44 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @work

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 11:33:38 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Gettin' ready

With regards to a Wellmont Danfest gathering, it was mentioned before that several of us are meeting up tonight at a place called "Just Jakes" on Park Street, a few blocks from the theater. There's rumored to be a parking garage right across the street (how convenient!). As far as tomorrow night goes, I don't believe anything has been formally put together, but perhaps another go round at Just Jakes could be in order unless anyone else has an idea? Maybe a local hardware store to purchase some hard hats?

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 10:45:27 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata

no opening act at the casino shows...

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 10:12:16 ET
Posted by: mr belzon, funway west

any definitive word on opening acts for the borgata?? , hopefully more steely dan and no opener

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 10:10:03 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, workin' again

Dr. B, shall I assume you will be in white tie and tails at the upcoming shows? Fife and I will be on the lookout for you....

G

Date: Mon, November 17, 2008, 09:25:05 ET
Posted by: Craig B,

"The Onion" article...never heard Steely Dan as being pussy music

Date: Sun, November 16, 2008, 20:38:12 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Needing a drink

Make that "jest", not "just".

D'Oh!

Date: Sun, November 16, 2008, 20:19:56 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach

Dunno who posted the poem, but I assumed BOTH comments were made in just, Dr B.

Actually, I chuckled a little at the "fortune cookie" poem following your post.

Date: Sun, November 16, 2008, 19:41:18 ET
Posted by: dr.bombay, bombay

the difference is my comment was in jest,and yours is just stupid

Date: Sun, November 16, 2008, 18:53:41 ET
Posted by: Eastern Wisdom,

Better a hump on the bed than a bump on the head

Date: Sun, November 16, 2008, 16:44:03 ET
Posted by: dr.bombay, boston

G. I have found over my many centuries of practice that a few well placed bumps can be extremly attractive in regard to the female form!!!perhaps you should re-consider your view?...... your's in medicine,....Dr.bombay

Date: Sun, November 16, 2008, 13:47:50 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

OK, Tuesday evening at the Wellmont, Loge section.

Anyone know if there's a pre-show Danfest gathering?

I know there's several good restaurants in the area. Any particular recommendations?

Date: Sun, November 16, 2008, 13:38:22 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, workin'

Jesus, the last thing I need is a bump on the head.


G

Date: Sun, November 16, 2008, 11:59:20 ET
Posted by: SteelyDana, va

Wear your hard-hats to the Wellmont shows, boys and girls :-)

Date: Sun, November 16, 2008, 09:48:05 ET
Posted by: Ghiagirl, NJ

Will there be a preshow gathering prior to either Wellmont shows? I've checked the danfest link but the new shows dates have not been added.

Date: Sun, November 16, 2008, 01:59:58 ET
Posted by: Don F., nyc

Who cares how it will sound on monday?
It's all the same to me.
The sweet sounds of Obama -11/04 will make up for any shortcomings at Wellmont.
Suck it up, kids.
Celebrate!
To you old, gnarly geezers - you really don't deserve any better.
Except you, Mr. G. Soros. You are a genius!

Date: Sat, November 15, 2008, 22:27:14 ET
Posted by: Steely Fan, NJ

Scroll down to Sept 7 and see what I posted after my peek inside the Wellmont. None of this surprises me in the least.

Date: Sat, November 15, 2008, 21:39:24 ET
Posted by: Chai_Latte still to go, Joisey, baby

So I guess it would be a good idea to bring an umbrella to the concert MOnday night?

Pardon me if this has already been dis'd, but is there a pre-Wellmont danfan get together?

Some interesting food venues in the vicinity...thai, cuban and for those who missed the 50's: Raymonds.

YES, the little yellow new beetle is still on the road...

Date: Sat, November 15, 2008, 18:19:49 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour!

Nice catch, doc

If the comments on this page are any indication of the sound in the Wellmont, the ceiling may be only one of the band's problems.

http://www.baristanet.com/2008/11/fan_sees_chunk_of_wellmont_fal.php

Date: Sat, November 15, 2008, 16:15:43 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Cortlandt Manor, NY

"If we don't die tonight, Steely Dan is dying tomorrow."

Well, isn't that a comfort. These Wellmont shows are gonna be interesting!

Date: Sat, November 15, 2008, 16:08:17 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata

from Baristanet.com:


Fan Sees Chunk of Wellmont Fall on Vocalist

Saturday, November 15, 2008

Interesting tidbit this morning from a tipster who attended the Wolf Parade concert last night at the Wellmont. Apparently, a chunk of the massively renovated building's ceiling fell during the performance ... on the stage, no less.

In the middle of Wolf Parade's performance, a small chunk of the ceiling fell on the lead vocalist, Spencer Krug, and his keyboard. It didn't hurt him, but his keyboard was a mess. Dan Boeckner, the main guitarist, responded: "If we don't die tonight, Steely Dan is dying tomorrow."

Wolf Parade finished their performance despite the mishap. Given how much they rock and how much the audience was jumping around (there was even some stage-diving), it's no wonder the building started coming down.

Steely Dan plays the Wellmont next Monday and Tuesday. Andy Feltz, a principal at the new Wellmont, reached by phone, said he hadn't heard anything about a falling piece of ceiling. "I'm not aware of it," he said. "As far as I know, nothing happened."

Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 19:41:51 ET
Posted by: Chan, One week from right now!!!

One week from tonight some of us lucky ones will be in Foxwoods Ct. Just a quick reminder of the Danfest planned for before the show.

I made a reservation confirming Friday the 21t of November at 5PM at the Stadium Sports Bar at Foxwoods. We have a private room there reserved call the Skybox. They will let us order off the menu, keep the room until we decide to head to the show, and let us control the music. It is about a ten minute walk from the restaurant to the MGM Theater. They suggest parking in the Rainmaker Garage for easy access to the restaurant. Please let me know if you are planning to attend as I need to give the manager there an approx head count a few days before. Click on my name for my email. Spread the word. All are welcome!!!

Best wishes for a great weekend to all.

Chan

Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 17:48:51 ET
Posted by: Gaylord Perri,

Ed-

RE:"So True Companion was about gay sailors."

How the f*** do you surmise that from DF saying the "music" was "really gay"?

Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 15:23:31 ET
Posted by: Ed, la

So True Companion was about gay sailors. Kind of a companion piece to the Village People's In the Navy.

Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 14:50:10 ET
Posted by: SteelyDana, va

After reading The Onion article, I agree with you, TonyBass.
Very funny stuff !!
Guess I should have read the article before commenting on the photo.
My bad :-(
All you lucky souls going to the concerts next week....have a great time and I can't wait to read your comments/ impressions of the shows!
Wish I could be there !!!

Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 14:10:29 ET
Posted by: tonybass, camarillo

I think that the photo that they used really added to the humor. Everytime that I read one of Donald's supposed quotes, I would look at that picture and crack up. Good stuff.

Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 12:48:37 ET
Posted by: angel,

A friend just forwarded me the Onion article. OMG! What a laugh for this morning. :-)

Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 12:24:38 ET
Posted by: chris, nh

ha, the onion and steely dan may very well be my two favorite things.

i've also been in that same situation many times -- a few drinks deep, defending steely dan. who hasn't?

Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 12:07:11 ET
Posted by: JH,

Donald always looks like a creep

Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 10:49:20 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach

Thanks for the Onion link.

"It's no Dire Straits, I'll give you that," Fagen added.

:#) Brilliant stuff.

Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 10:41:56 ET
Posted by: steely dana, va

Kind of creepy photo of Donald in that "Onion" article......

Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 10:29:50 ET
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Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 10:18:10 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata

from The Onion....

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/donald_fagen_defends_steely_dan_to

Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 10:17:41 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, TN

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/donald_fagen_defends_steely_dan_to

Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 08:00:19 ET
Posted by: Rajah, ah yes, I remember it well

I also remember he sported one of the worst toupees ever crafted. It was like, a red squirrel floatin' around up there. He was good but he didn't play the Peg solo note for note. That thing was heavily punched out. Now Mark Vincent nails that solo, Hawaiian style bending of the notes and all. All on one guitar, all in one go. He takes different roads but he gets there. Guitar tech has come a long way since Peg, though...

Date: Fri, November 14, 2008, 00:36:03 ET
Posted by: Scouser, 3rd rock

Hey Raj..
Do you recall Jay Graydon's performance with the DWB at the Whiskey....wow what a night

Date: Thurs, November 13, 2008, 20:20:44 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach

Well, Elton, Madman was pretty damn good, but you had already peaked with Tumbleweed. The next three, or so, albums, represented good quality (despite a slight decline with nearly every album), until you hit your massive slide toward unlistenable.

And, let's not fool around with stuff like "early peak"...that was it, for you.

Date: Thurs, November 13, 2008, 18:19:39 ET
Posted by: Elton John, with Bernie T.

I've always hoped that Donald and Walter would do a cover of my masterpiece, my early peak, the entire album of Madman Across the Water. Most of the lyrics could have been penned by them.

Date: Thurs, November 13, 2008, 16:22:43 ET
Posted by: lovethisgig, atlanta

By the way you look fantastic in your boots of Chinese plastic ...

Date: Thurs, November 13, 2008, 15:12:51 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Word on the street is that the setlist for these last four shows will be completely revamped and heavily loaded with songs from 2VN, EMG and the recent solo works. Unfortunately, the street that the word is on is the one that leads to the lunatic asylum.

Don't take me alive.

Date: Thurs, November 13, 2008, 14:05:43 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

I like what Freddie did to Marsalis. Miles wrote in his book how Wynton walked on stage with his trumpet during a concert, uninvited.
Miles told him "to get the f.ck off my stage"
He is the most overrated guy out there, plays good but just rehashes what's already been done.
He trashed Sting in the 80's fur using the hip black NYC guys like his brother and Hakim - it was kind of racist.
His job in NYC is more an affirmative action kind of thing.
He is the Spike Lee of Jazz, no one really likes him.
Jarrett may bed a jerk but at least he's creative.

Date: Thurs, November 13, 2008, 13:10:44 ET
Posted by: Geoff, work

Jim Keltner is on the the new Pretenders' album. So there.

Date: Thurs, November 13, 2008, 12:53:22 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata

the spore is on the wind tonight

Date: Thurs, November 13, 2008, 12:40:08 ET
Posted by: steelyfez--Mark, CT- NYC working

Wonder what the set list will be for Monday night.

Looking forward to it.

Date: Thurs, November 13, 2008, 10:33:32 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, .......and yet another

Also, Miriam Makeba (of Pata Pata fame) passed away over the weekend.


G

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 23:28:01 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach

Wow, another great gone.

RIP Mitch Mitchell

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 23:16:53 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Bikemann,

RIP indeed. He was the remaining member of the Jimi Experience, Timeless music.

The first Google link was from the AP:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hAB55HVz01BxrJUrwe7GMl3uSntwD94DOFHO0

"Erin Patrick, a deputy medical examiner, said Mitchell apparently died of natural causes. An autopsy was planned."
*********

61 years old, "natural causes". How many rockers from that era die in their 40's, 50's and early 60's from "natural causes"?

Ironically, I was out with some friends tonight, and we somehow got on the subject of rock drummers, and the name Jim Gordon came up. What a bizarre, twisted life story!

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 22:49:15 ET
Posted by: bikemann17, nj

RIP Mitch Mitchell

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 21:17:20 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach

Jive,

You said: "While I enjoyed the music and admired the layers and complexity, I found Wynton's style to be clinical, almost as a trumpet professor would lecture his students on technique. While I admire his talents, I'm not always emotionally moved."

I agree 100%. I actually feel similarly about his classical playing, but that works a little better for me, I guess.

I would rather hear Freddie Hubbard play, any day of the week.

Now, coming full circle, I'm not very emotionally moved by Keith Jarrett, either. I think I was, at one time, but one of us (or both) changed. I admire and respect Jarrett, but I rarely listen, anymore. I consider him the way I do someone like John McLaughlin or Stanley Jordan. I dig their chops, but their music really doesn't reach me.

I will listen to McCoy or Oscar Peterson before I think of reaching for Keith. In fact, I prefer players like Jacky Terrasson or Bill Charlap, to Jarrett, even though they don't have his obvious chops.

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 20:58:07 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach

Chris,

That's interesting, and certainly might help explain things. I don't really recall that, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. I've always seen Wynton as a guy who is respectful of the past...he certainly seems like that kind of a guy, now. Maybe things were different many years ago.

But, for what it's worth, I thought that Miles didn't like Marsalis because he was, basically, jealous of the attention (and financial backing from record labels) Wynton got at such an early age, with such a small resume to his credit.

For what it's worth, Marsalis probably was less than enthused with Davis' foray into fusion and may have stated so, publicly. If that's being disrespectful to his elders, then I guess that makes sense.

There was also a time that people on both the classical and jazz side criticized Marsalis for really being from the "other" musical form. So, my guess is there were many older musicians who weren't appreciative of all the attention this kid was getting, as they didn't consider him to be "one of them".

But, I never remember Wynton being all that disrespectful. I also never considered him to be one of the all time great trumpeters (jazz or classical).

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 20:54:01 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Dean,

With regard to your Wynton comment:

"I also disagree with your take that Wynton is legendary for his chops. I think Marsalis is thought to be a very good player, but his reputation is really elevated by his knowledge of the history of jazz, his ability to play many different styles (and classical music) and mostly his place as a great jazz ambassador and educator. While he is a good player, I never hear (or think of) Marsalis' name during a discussion of the baddest jazz trumpeters."

I recall when Wynton first came onto the scene, and released Black Codes, which I believe was his first commercial success. He was touted as the next Miles, the new great master. While I enjoyed the music and admired the layers and complexity, I found Wynton's style to be clinical, almost as a trumpet professor would lecture his students on technique. While I admire his talents, I'm not always emotionally moved.

I was first turned onto Freddie from my college roommate, who had those slick Creed Taylor productions like Skydive and Red Clay. Then I found Ready For Freddie at a local record store, and was hooked. Follow that with Freddie's astounding solo on Oliver Nelson's Stolen Moments.

Without question, my favorite trumpeter, right there with Freddie, is the late, great, sometimes underappreciated and underrated Lee Morgan. A relatively brief career (since he was murdered by his alleged common law wife at Slugs in NY), but quite prolific in the studio as a lead artist and sideman.

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 18:47:36 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

its important to remember that when Wynton first came onto the scene, he was widely regarded as a arrogant little shit who would constantly build himself up and put down the living legends of the time (including Freddie and Miles).

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 18:34:56 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach

Denise,

Nice catch. Looks like an interesting mix, I may give it a listen, later.


Twit, we disagree on a few things here, it seems. First of all, it's really not all that odd, or rude, for a player to bring his ax to someone else's gig. That has been a staple of jazz music for many years (Walt and Don know that "Bring your horn along and you can add to the pure confection"). My Grandfather was played the clarinet, professionally. My brother's entire teen and adult life was spent as a professional guitarist. Both have many stoories of sitting in with some great players, and vice-versa. Now, you are right when you say that it is rude to "push the envelope of sitting in". Absolutely. You step up when, and if, you are asked. If Wynton pressed, then he may have deserved what he got (depending on the exact situation, I think.)

You noted that this was a young Wynton, so it would be interesting to note just how young, and what his reputation was, at the time. Many great young musicians get schooled sitting in, when they are young ("and if you can't fly you'll have to move in with the rhythm section") Charlie Parker certainly got his share of on-stage lessons when he was young (partly because of his unusual style, and partly because he wasn't good enough, yet, to play with the legends with whom he sat in). (Again, this can explain something like the Hubbard/Marsalis story.)

I also disagree with your take that Wynton is legendary for his chops. I think Marsalis is thought to be a very good player, but his reputation is really elevated by his knowledge of the history of jazz, his ability to play many different styles (and classical music) and mostly his place as a great jazz ambassador and educator. While he is a good player, I never hear (or think of) Marsalis' name during a discussion of the baddest jazz trumpeters.

So, depending on how this actually went down, it could simply be the story of a young musician rudely forcing his way onstage, and getting schooled by a jazz master. That wouldn't be that odd, I guess, as many jazz greats got schooled when they were young and developing.

If Wynton was known, at the time (his father is Eiils Marsalis, after all), it isn't likely that he should have to be rude to get onstage. Wynton shows up, and a secure and generous jazz musician invites him up on stage, and makes him comfortable (maybe even asks what he would like to do with the band). Can you, for one minute, imagine Sonny Rollins purposefully embarrassing a player like Joshua Redman on stage?

So, the interpretation really lies in the detail of this story. (If you know more about it, please share.) It makes sense to me, either way (or somewhere in the middle) I suppose. But, knowing what we do about Hubbard, it doesn't seem like a stretch that a very insecure and petty man purposefully tried to embarrass a fellow musician who had, what he may have considered, an undeserved reputation.

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 16:25:09 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown cubicle

NPR's Listen While You Work

"Build A Better Workplace With Headphone Jazz" features Aja

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95747192

Love this line: "spend a few hours at your desk trying to decipher the obtuse lyrics. (Good luck with that.)"

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 16:07:33 ET
Posted by: AnonTwit, again

I didn’t mean to mislead the slant of my story about Freddie.

What I find the most galling about this story - and in knowing some jazz people and gig parlance, etc. – is the arrogance of Marsalis to bring his horn to a gig in which he wasn’t invited to begin with. In jazz circles, it is disrespectful to bring your horn and push the envelope of sitting in on someone’s set. It’s low class, wrong, and I think Freddie put Winton in his place – and where he rightfully belongs.
Freddie had every right to do what he did. And especially because WM is some kind of continuation of some kind of LEGACY(!).

Freddie Hubbard has soul. Winton does not.
Winton is “legendary” for his technique, or chops.
And Winton couldn’t keep up.

That alone, speaks volumes.

But hey, Freddie rules!

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 16:06:31 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains

<<Maybe Jarrett, Hubbard, and David Lee Roth could unite to form The Three Assholes.>>

Get Neil Peart on drums and we have a band folks!

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 15:57:39 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Maybe Jarrett, Hubbard, and David Lee Roth could unite to form The Three Assholes.

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 15:32:19 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Heading Toward the Manatee Bar

Anon,

Jarrett very well may be a musical genius. The question here, I think, is whether, or not, he is a good human being. The jury is still out on that, I think.

As for your Freddie/Winton story, I'd have to say that is one of the worst stories of musical selfishness I have ever heard (and I have heard quite a few). The idea of a musician going out of his way to embarrass a fellow artist is fucking disgusting, if you ask me.

Great jazz musicians go out of their way to make their fellow artists look good. I'm sure that if he wanted to, Winton could invite Hubbard to jam, and then play a complicated classical composition to see how well Freddie adapted to that. But, say what you want about Winton, he is far too classy for a stunt like that. I'm sure Winton understands that a high level of cooperation is better for the band, the music and the audience.

I love the way Freddie plays, but based on my experience and stories I have heard (yours being the most offensive, by far), he lacks something in his heart. I'm positive if he had it, he would be an even better musician, and person.

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 13:24:07 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Anon - that may be.

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 13:20:42 ET
Posted by: AnonTwit, nawl

Josey,
Kind of you to consider your loss, and honestly, I believe it is.
And I am sure that Keith won't miss your attendance.
But I also think that Keith is railing at the audiences who really don't know how to listen and/or respect the art of a musical performance.

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 13:09:05 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Anon - I forgot to add that I've never been to one of KJ's concerts and in all likeliness, never will. I'll gladly consider that my loss.

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 13:05:20 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Anon - sounds like we'll agree to disagree. Jarrett very well may be the best musician the universe will ever know. But when you give your audience that many "fuck you's" somebody should occasionally give one back. I'll stand by the asshole comment and your disagreement is duly noted.

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 12:23:31 ET
Posted by: AnonTwit, NewOrleans

Josey, I couldn’t disagree more about Jarrett. An “Asshole’s asshole” is more in the line of David Lee Roth.
Keith Jarrett is one of the most amazing pianists and composers of our time. His catalog of recordings is a novel unto itself. His demanding standards – on himself, his band and his audience – are steep and rarely - if ever - matched.
I think your argument about his grunting is missing the point as well. I believe that it is an intense response to improvisational creativity, which happens at the exact moment when he makes his music. But I think you do yourself a disservice to go see KJ and then complain about that aspect of his music.
It’s like going to see Miles play, and then complain that he didn’t play that many notes.

Once, a long time ago, a young Winton Marsalis walked into a Freddie Hubbard gig in the Village.

And he brought his horn. (how pretentious, even then)

During the set, Freddie called Winton out, and made a gentlemanly introduction and invited Winton to play.
Freddie called his tune, snapped out a 4, and broke into a smoking, voracious, and wieldy chart.

Winton couldn’t keep up. Couldn’t play the changes.

He packed his horn and left.

So the thing is, if you are fortunate enough to get on a Freddie Hubbard gig, you’d better keep up or go home.

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 10:12:53 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach

Hutch,

Wikipedia is an interesting phenomenon. It gets a bad rap, because for some, it has become the "fount of all knowledge".

Yes, as anyone (well, almost anyone) can edit Wikipedia, it can contain some erroneous info...or some outright untruths. Of course, because anyone can edit it, attempts to manipulate Wikipedia are often corrected very quickly.

Those of us old enough to remember using a hard bound encyclopedia (Britannica, for example), were also subject to exposure to erroneous info, and outrageous untruths, in its pages, as well. The difference is, many of those truths were "generally accepted" at the time. For the other stuff, you may have to wait years for that information to be edited/corrected.

The Internet (in general) and Wikipedia (in particular) have taught many of us some things we SHOULD have learned (but probably didn't) at a very early age:

Don't rely on one source for anything important, or that you plan to repeat as "truth" to others.

Don't believe everything you hear or read, even if it comes from a "reputable" source.

If you hear/read something that seems very odd, or hard to believe, instead of instantly believing it, you may want to check it out a little before going forward. :#)

But, then again, we all knew that already!

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 09:01:42 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

RJ - Right you are. Wikipedia has gotten a bad rap, and it may be deserved, but I still go over there sometimes out of idle curiousity.
The story of what led Skunk into the Defense Consultant business is pretty interesting. Write a good paper, give it to the right person and there you go!

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 08:54:41 ET
Posted by: RJ Squirrel sez..., ether

Skunk said that I think...

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 08:09:47 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Who said this?

"We thought turntables were for playing records until rappers began to use them as instruments, and we thought airplanes were for carrying passengers until terrorists realized they could be used as missiles," he has said. "My big thing is to look at existing technologies and try to see other ways they can be used, which happens in music all the time and happens to be what terrorists are incredibly good at."

Date: Wed, November 12, 2008, 00:20:17 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu , ah funky one anna two

"The drum track on Black Cow has a great feel. And it's recorded so well. Yes, deceptively simple, that song is very nearly perfect, one of their all time best. I wonder how many drummers had a crack at it?"

It's laid back in a decadent fashion by Paul Humphrey. Not as simple to nail as folks think. Purdie would lay back too far. Carlock too up front. Nice cymbal ride. It may be the finest mixed and sounding recordings they made. Some of Walter's new one has this nice warm balance but not quite the incredible instrument separation. When I first heard this on virgin vinyl 30+ years ago, I fell out of my EZ Chair.

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 20:50:28 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Dean,

Freddie seems like a tyrant. How inappropriate.

I watched McCoy Tyner at Sweet Basil in NYC several times. Very warm, intimate setting. He brought out Ron Carter on bass and I've never seen such mastery. Carter's fingers are so long, it looks like he could palm a basketball.

One of my most memorable Tyner performance was at Yoshi's in Oakland, with Joe Lovano and the magnificent, stoic Bobby Hutcherson on vibes. Pure magic. Probably 1999 or 2000. McCoy looked much older and had lost considerable weight, and I'd heard he's been battling some undisclosed illness for years. Hadn't lost any of is chops, for sure. I understand he's been on the mend and back performing.

I've seen Don, Walt and the SD band 6 times since 1994, and have loved every single show. It seems that Don and Walt have loosened the reins a bit, and the band just seems to "swing" more nowadays. Walt has always appeared comfortable on stage, and I sense that Don has grow more confident and has lost some of his shyness. He's still cool and aloof, but I sense that he'd never want to give up that persona, and we wouldn't want him any other way, We love the mystique.

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 20:23:32 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach

Josey,

Freddie and the band played two, maybe three, numbers...sounded very good (I was very close at a small club). I noticed that Freddie was a bit odd and disrespectful (at least IMO) to the rest of the band. He would lay down his trumpet inside the piano, when he wasn't playing and stared daggers at the pianist. He blew hard and loud at the drummer, on occasion...real odd stuff.

Anyway, at the end of, let's say the third song, he said something to the drummer and the drummer left the stage. The band played a nice quiet tune w/o drums. I thought nothing of it. I just figured it was a tune w/o drums. At the end of the tune, Freddie comes to the mike and says "I told the drummer if he was going to play that loud, he can go get is own damn band" or something similar. He said they would take a very short break while they found another drummer. As I noted, it was well over an hour.

Once they started up again, Hubbard relentlessly tormented the new drummer. Blowing in his ear, getting real macho-like, almost like he was saying "I'll fire you, too". The strange this is, despite all this, the music was very hot.

Jive, you are sure right about McCoy. A real pleasure to see.

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 19:35:46 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Josey,

Sorry to hear about Freddie's drummer episode. I have seen him play several times in NYC at Blue Note and Fat Tuesday's in the early-mid 80's. Amazing talent.

I saw Miles play in 1982 with a fusion band, and he kept his back turned to the audience for about 80% of the show.

By far the most engaging, gracious and outwardly appreciative jazz artist I've seen is Horace Silver. McCoy Tyner, one of the most gifted musicians I've ever seen, seems quiet, almost shy, but in each of the 6 times I saw him play, there is this whole vibe of mutual love and appreciation between Tyner and his adoring audience.

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 19:03:53 ET
Posted by: Josey, Seeking truth in the bottom of a bottle

Dean - by any chance, do you remember what it was that caused Hubbard to fire the drummer on stage?

As for Jarrett, he's an asshole's asshole. A true void surrounded by a sphincter muscle. Helluva pianist though. "Hey Keith, before you lay your demands on us, we also have a couple of requirements: quit the fucking grunting during your performance! It get's in the way. Really...it does. Secondly, don't be such an ass. Your shit smells too!"

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 18:39:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach

Chris,

You are right. An audience should respect the artist's conduct requests, as long as they are reasonable.

Of course, I don't think it's asking too much for the artist to have some respect, and tolerance, for the audience, either.

There is nothing wrong with asking the audience to refrain from taking pictures, IMO. The way you ask, and what you decide to do if one or two people violate the request, is another story.

I used to be a bigger fan of Keith's than I am today. I still have respect for his artistry, although his music doesn't move me much, anymore.

Let's be honest, Jarrett is known as a diva, and more than a bit of a jerk. Well, lots of great artists are difficult. As an audience, you get to decide if the value of the art is worth the rewards of the performance (in the case of a musician). It's a little tougher on those who aren't aware of the artist's particular hot buttons, I suppose.

I'm sure I have mentioned this before but...many years ago I saw Freddie Hubbard perform with a band in Boston. Early into the show, he fired the drummer, on stage. We had to wait for over an hour for him to find a new drummer. The show was great, although Freddie taunted the new drummer, and I'm pretty sure made the rest of the band, and the audience, uncomfortable.

I still like Freddie's music, but I haven't been back to see him play, in person.

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 18:08:13 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Erica, I agree that its a bit odd, but when the artist makes clear that he or she wants no photography the audience should respect that. Personally, I was happy to get 2 superb sets of music and 2 encores before the outburst.

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 15:48:41 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston

Well put Gretchen...Fezzie

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 13:56:54 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Greg M,

I'm combing the web looking for clips of Ari, to no avail so far. I'll buy "Jazmin", Ari's quartet which includes Michael Leonhart. Now there's some tangential Dan.

Here's a review exerpt of Jazmin from allaboutjazz.com :

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=11600

One element essential to this sort of strategy is a like-minded band. Ambrose has his bets covered in this regard with Michael Leonhart, Joe Martin and Rick Montalbano. Even with several records under their collective belt this is still a relatively young ensemble, and that freshness feeds directly into the music. Vestiges of Byas and Webster crop up in his tone and phrasing, but there’s also an edge of unpredictability to his sound. Sliding into near micro tonality on the velvet ballad changes of “When Your Lover Has Gone” Ambrose’s tenor adopts a ghostly translucent cast. Leonhart’s lovingly muted brass smears out a gentle counterpoint and Martin’s ensuing bass solo builds at a beautifully sculpted pace. Everything about the track registers as a model of grace and measured poise.

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 13:45:27 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Thanks Steelydoc,

So Walt W will still be aboard for the Wellmont shows, and Jim Beard will man the keyboards.

I clicked on the link to Beard's home page, and listened to some of the samples. Impressive. Very agile.

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 11:46:22 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata

Jive Miguel

info on band lineup is here:

http://www.steelydan.com/2kband.html

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 11:45:30 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains

Ari was on the 96 tour and Japan dates on the 2000 tour.
What do you folks think of him?

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 11:33:06 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

We'll be at the Wellmont show in NJ on 11/18.

Browsing some of the posts, I read that Ari Ambrose may be in for Walt W., and Jim Beard may be in for Jeff Young. I believe Ari was with the 2000 tour.

Any confirmation? Any other lineup changes?

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 11:07:54 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, Contemplating....

Today is Veteran's Day, just keeping in mind those who put their lives on the line for our country both past and present. Hopefully we will soon see an end to war and our troops will be home at last.


G

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 10:05:19 ET
Posted by: happy, veterans day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGGhY46vGn4

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 09:45:55 ET
Posted by: Erica J.,

Why does Keith give a good shit if his picture is taken?

DF/WB could give a good shit if there's is.

Plus Keith always puffs himself up in interviews.

WB/DF ALWAYS downplay their talents/abilities/successes, which of course, is very endearing.

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 09:32:26 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Raj, is it true that KJ requires the venue provide him with 3 grand pianos, one of which he will choose for his performance?

I saw the trio in Boston recently. It was one of the greatest musical experiences of my life, but the concert had a strange ending. After the trio had been called out for a 3rd encore, Keith spotted some cameras in the audience and pointed them out, asking "Why does this keep happening? You've been a great audience, why do a few assholes have to ruin it for everyone?" We HAD been a great audience; totally silent and attentive during songs, enthusiastically applauding solos (but not for too long, because the applause drowned out the music) and giving standing ovations throughout the two sets. Unfortunately, because he spotted the cameras, we didn't get a third encore. To be honest at this point I was more upset with the people who decided to take pictures after every set began with an announcement stating that "the artist personally requests that no cameras be used at any time during the performance and the bows." And you know, we were all treated to 2+ hours of absolutely gorgeous music, so what if the evening ended with Keith saying "I am not my complexion" and walking off the stage?

Date: Tues, November 11, 2008, 07:25:13 ET
Posted by: Rajah, way up north

Too long, Steve, too long. I'll shoot you an email as soon as I get back home. I come here to Verona every once in a while to my friend Fabrizio, whom you've met, who refurbishes, rents and sells grand pianos. He's a fifth generation artisan and watching him work in his shop is quite an education. Bridges, pinblocks and tuning pins. Each treble note has three strings, upper bass notes two, lower bass, one, where I'm only allowed to work. And of course I talk to Fabbi a lot about you, my dear, dear friend. Most impressive thing: Fabbi has Ennio Morricone's telephone number. Most funny thing: everyone in his business who has done work renting Keith Jarrett grands thinks he's a great artist but and even greater pain in the ass.

Date: Mon, November 10, 2008, 22:03:06 ET
Posted by: DF,

UNIVAC LOVES YOU

Date: Mon, November 10, 2008, 17:26:17 ET
Posted by: Newark, eastern shore of delmarva in the greens field

Hi! Casual fan: Stay in Ocean City, NJ -- good deals on rooms there. Nwk Good seats available at Borgata right now. Back to the dishes. talk later

http://www.myspace.com/newarkstation

Date: Mon, November 10, 2008, 17:05:45 ET
Posted by: SteveeDan, Lying in wait

I haven't been in here in a very long time ...

Rajah - - call me or write to me ... all my contact info is the same.

I hope all is well with all of you.

Date: Mon, November 10, 2008, 16:35:08 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata

Casual Fan

yes, Philly airport is an hour or so drive from AC...you can get on a train right there at the airport, connect in center city, and take a train to AC, which is under 2 hours

email me if you need any more specific info

Date: Mon, November 10, 2008, 16:26:01 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando

doc,

I was planning on flying into AC because I can get a direct flight there. Not that the Philly idea is a bad one. Its about an hour, right?

Date: Mon, November 10, 2008, 16:15:09 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata

Casual Fan

Are you flying into Philly or ACY? You might want to check into Philly, and you might get a cheaper hotel...you can take a train from Philly to AC and they run almost all night..

Date: Mon, November 10, 2008, 16:02:40 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando

Thanks for the info, Fife. I'll check into the BWE.

I've also been searching the usual suspects, such as Priceline, Travelocity and Expedia. For Thursday they give the nights away. But Friday and particularly Saturday everything jumps, 2x or even 3x. And the ones that don't, I can't figure out how close they are to the casinos. From what I hear, a leisurely walk a few blocks from the boardwalk is basically the same as going outside of the Greenzone with an American flag on your head and no armor.

Date: Mon, November 10, 2008, 15:58:13 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, eh

I also noticed that priceline had quite a few hotels for under a hundred a night.

Date: Mon, November 10, 2008, 15:49:50 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, eh

We're staying at the Best Western Envoy Inn I got it for 125.00 though that was quite sometime ago.

Date: Mon, November 10, 2008, 15:04:03 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando

To all Atlantic City degenerates (you know who you are):

I am thinking of flying up for the 11/22 show at the Borgata. I can get a reasonable flight, but when I went to find a hotel room ... Holy Outrageous Prices, Batman! I mean, did I miss something? I thought for sure that Atlantic City was begging for customers in this economy, but least expensive I can find on the Boardwalk for 3 nights is about $650 or so.

Anybody got any insight on that? Maybe a chain hotel not attached to a casino that is a reasonable (and, importantly, safe) walking distance to the fun?

I know that the Borgata is a cab ride, no matter what. That's fine.

Date: Mon, November 10, 2008, 13:20:37 ET
Posted by: W1P, Pandora.com

So, is Bodhisattva based in part on Herbie Mann's Patato taken from Standing Ovation Live @ Newport?

Date: Mon, November 10, 2008, 12:30:34 ET
Posted by: Ghiagirl, NJ

Does anyone know if Jim Pugh is scheduled to play at the Wellmont? Did he go back to the University of Illinois?

Date: Mon, November 10, 2008, 01:58:31 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains

Three cheers for Tom Barney, my favorite bass player to rock with the Dan.

Date: Sun, November 09, 2008, 20:23:03 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

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Date: Sun, November 09, 2008, 19:58:55 ET
Posted by: tonybass, camarillo

Ha-Ha... I seem to remember you ripping me a new one, not long ago, about a word that I misspelled....see, it can happen to you, too. ;-)

Date: Sun, November 09, 2008, 18:22:06 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Finally, Ha-Ha, you made the Rajah laugh.

Ha ha hah ha ha hah ha...

Date: Sun, November 09, 2008, 17:43:47 ET
Posted by: Ha-ha, w

Reoccuring, recurring ... irregardless, my sediment remains the same.

Date: Sun, November 09, 2008, 16:54:10 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

It's true, Keith's time is impeccable, don't think you can make it at this level without that attribute, but his true genius is that he knows how to tell a story with his drumming. He knows how to build tension and then release it. Three Picture Deal is a case in point. Nothing he does here is what anyone would call amazing or remarkable but he always seems to open up at just the proper level with just the right energy and tact when called upon. He's a showman and he knows what modulation means to a tune. I bet he'd be a helluva record producer.

Date: Sun, November 09, 2008, 16:00:12 ET
Posted by: tonybass, camarillo

I have to agree with Dean on his take on Carlock. He is a pretty well rounded drummer. He sounds like a bloody metronome sometimes and that is exactly what Fagen and Becker want, I'm sure. The problem, to me, is that Freddie Washington is not the right guy to play with Carlock. If Tom Barney was playing with Carlock I think more people would appreciate what he(Carlock) brings to the table.

Carlock is amazing on "Three Picture Deal"...he really has a lock on that "Philly Sound", Gamble and Huff type thing that goes on during the choruses.

Date: Sun, November 09, 2008, 14:12:07 ET
Posted by: Mike is, right

Date: Sun, November 09, 2008, 13:11:45 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Oh, th