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Click for September 2003 BlueBook Entries
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August 2003 BlueBook Entries
Posted by: jw, baltimore, md.A late posting after the 27 august 2003 (nissan pavillion / bristow, va.) concert.
I feel very odd criticizing anything concerning donald fagen and walter becker.......but,
I'd like to add my voice those serious fans who are dissappointed that so little of the new album, EVERYTHING MUST GO, is being performed on this 2003 tour. Only "godwhacker", "slang of ages" and "things i miss the most" were included in last wednesday night's two sets.
Ironically, 5 tunes from AJA made the setlist; ["aja", "peg", "josie", "black cow", and "home at last"]
and 4 from THE ROYAL SCAM.
["kid charlemagne" "the caves of altimira" "sign in stranger", and "hatian divorce"]
In spite of my preference for more songs from EVERYTHING MUST GO, I was ecstatic just to see Mr. Fagen and Mr. Becker looking and performing so well. The band was in fine form, and I was delighted by some new background vocal augmentations.
Walter becker and Donald Fagen, in my humble opinion, are the greatest pop music RECORDING artists, EVER, and I'm happy that they are still making records and touring, period.
Also mention-worthy is the fact that Keith Carlock lived up to the praise that has been given him in the postings I've read at this website (in the Bluebook).His drum solo on "josie" just blew everyone away... i mean really!
Let's hope that there are more Steely Dan/Donald Fagen/Walter Becker studio recordings to come!!
Posted by: Randall, Mizar FiveGreetings,
Here are some of my Steely Dan mondegreens (mis-heard lyrics):
misheard: "Hello mon amour"
correct: "Hello one and all"
song: "King of the World"
misheard: "How was I to know about the warm sofas here, you've been keeping for years" correct: "How was I to know about the warm soulful secret..."
song: "I Got the News"
misheard: "sleep on the big Jamaican"
correct: "Sleep on the beach and make it"
song: "Josie"
misheard: "The coffee beans chair"
correct: "The comfy Eames chair"
song: "Things I Miss the Most"
Other funny mondegreen sites:
http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/carroll/mondegreens.shtml
http://www.amiright.com/artists/steelydan.shtml
-Randall
Posted by: steelydoubt, related to my last post,
if you do have an idea for a flavor (with a witty dan related name) you could put it in this form.
http://www.benjerry.com/our_company/contact_us/forms/suggestion_intro.cfm
I hope to see "thirl wirled man" the next time i go the the seven eleven.
Posted by: steelydoubt, i just saw on aol that aol users can submit names for the new ben and jerrys flavor. i seem to remember some time ago we were coming up with steely dan related ice cream names, too bad the name for the new ice cream has to be election related.
Posted by: Doctor Wu, My leg II setlist:
- The Chant
- Aja
- Cousin Dupree
- Turn That Heartbeat Over Again
- Throw Back The Little Ones
- Slang of Angels
- Josie
- Parker's Band
- Rikki Don't Lose That Number
- Dirty Work
- Don't Take Me Alive
- The Steely Dan Show
- Pretzel Logic
- Daddy Don't Live in that NYC No More
- The Last Mall
- Charlie Freak
- What a Shame about Me
- Home At Last
- ShowBiz Kids
- Reeling in the Years
- Everything Must Go
- My Old School
- Doctor Wu
- Bad Sneakers
Posted by: Randall, The ditch out in the valleyOleander,
I haven't seen anyone list "Lunch with Gina": "Coffee and a kiss..."
-Randall
Posted by: Randall, Alive and Feeling FineHello One and All,
I just got back from a very relaxing weekend "away from it all." Before I left civilization, I went to the Nissan show and had a blast. The weather was almost as amazing as the concert. I can't describe the evening any better than Oleander did, so I won't even try. Suffice it to say, it was awesome.
I also had the privilege of meeting some fine Danizens in person: Sam, Scotty, Alan (fanofdan) and Nancy...it was great to meet all of you! Hopefully our paths will cross again. Maybe when I visit Australia you'll return the favor by giving me an impromptu midnight "tour" of Sydney :).
Special thanks to Sam for putting together the "mini-Danfest" at the Battlefield Inn and for the nifty T-shirt. I'm very appreciative!
Scotty and Alan: I hope the rest of your trip is super-fine and you make it safely back home. Please have a VB (or 10) for me when you return to Oz.
See you at Roseland!
-Randall
Posted by: lucky henry, home@last(George: re: set list: see below)...
hello one and all,
Incredible performance last night in the Borgata ballroom. a few highlights...
Sat in fifth row left, in front of Herington who was phenomenal. He loves and absolutely wailed on the maple piece (a Sadowsky?) with perfection and grace. Played with feedback from an amp which he held ~30 secs before breaking into DTMA. Came out during the break to chat w/friends. Enjoyed a cold Heineken later.
Walt seemed really upbeat and more animated than usual. His vocals were excellent and are great on Haitian Divorce; video very entertaining. Parker's band rocks. Hope they keep these in the second tour leg.
Great profile view of Donald and his midi-"friends" - tussled hair on top and back, no white jacket. Sounded a bit tired. He isn't "messing up lyrics". He sometimes just provided a suggestion of the lyric and let the audience fill in the blanks. In doing so, he appears more interactive. when most of audience sang "retha frankin" he didn't say anything but extended his index finger toward the front center to someone who no doubt knew otherwise.
Luch With Gina was rolled out in place of TIMTM, otherwise same set list. not a bad Lunch for a first attempt. Crowd did a fine job singin along to new tunes.
drum solo was incredible; seemed longer than usual. Carlock later walked past us with some buddies into the hotel complex. nice going, dude!
took me 3 shows to realize that the whole band seems to be singing "the steely dan show", including cornelius who otherwise looked as stoic and pensive as Donald is expresssive. second set opener is a cute, fun tune that doesn't lose its cool in spite of flirting with being corny. just lay it all on don and walt.
Sound was apparently sublime from 22 rows ~center, I hear. Not so good closer to left - e.g., couldn't fully pick up Barney's bass, esp. on Lunch. There were some feedback issues early on but cleared up soon enough.
best word I can find to describe the spectacle was "different". Borgata full of characters right out of Steely Dan songs. Lots of nervous excitement. 60-somethings boogeying to Hey 19. Gaudy, overcrowded casino hotel with exquisite evening profile that melts in to the sky, and a tacky neon "Borgata" sign above the top floor to ruin the effect. Glittering neon ads everywhere juxtaposing depressed housing projects, perpetual construction and lost souls. AC has some serious issues.
"cool audience. cool little gig," (WB, omitting the prviously-used modifier),
lh
Posted by: WuDuF, Bethel, CTOK-the Leg II setlist debate. I'm not actually going to list what the sets should look like-you KNOW my pet peeve about complaining about what's done or not done. However, having seen the band live for 9 years now, there are some I've never heard and would love to.
Your Gold Teeth ( I & II)
Show Biz Kids
New Frontier (D.F.)
On the Dunes (D.F.)
Surf and or Die (W.B.)
The Fez
Pretzel Logic
That's all I'll ask for at this time. Thanks!
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynBy the way, Katy is Josie - the use of "crucified" provides a clue to "prays like a Roman with her eyes on fire," ie, the Romans who crucified Christ. Unless you think Roman with her eyes on fire means she looks like a Versace model or something.
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynInteresting! Laszlo Kovacs is the name of the character Jean-Paul Belmondo plays in Godard's film breathless. B&F's lyrical style borrows immensely from Fellini, Godard and Antonioni. I haven't had the patience to undertake the project but I am sure if you slough through Antonioni's films scene by scene you will find them verbally described in some or other songs.
Posted by: AH, MeSoWise said: "In St. Paul on 08/07 I'd <I>swear</I> Walt intro'd a keyboard player who was not TB. Any ideas? He played all the TB parts (mostly piano, moved to Rhodie, etc when DF roamed) but I was listening for Ted's name & it was something different."
You remember correctly. Walt did introduce someone else. However, it was TB playing. Walter seemed to be amusing himself that evening. I can't remember the exact names that he used, but for both Ted Baker and Michael Leonhart he introduced them with names taken from classic cinema. The names, or parts thereof that I recall are: Antonioni, Fellini, (and maybe part of the name Lazlo Kovacs).
AH
Posted by: Little Wild One, the travel deskDear Scotty, Alan and Sam,
Thanks for a great night, mates! Instead of the top shelf Mexican I was headed for, including the proverbial pool of margaritas, I got half-baked pizza and margs-in-a-bucket....but I WAS happy to hear that everyone made their connection!
Beers in the back of a bus until 6 am? What a way to end two weeks of Dan Karma!
Looking forward to the post show report...and then of course,
Babylon Turnpike, TAKE IT!! (Sadly for us...)
XOXOX from your pal!
P.S. That clicking sound you here is SOH snapping....
Posted by: oleander, plenty of javaSo far so good....
1. "plenty of java/And Chesterfield Kings" The Nightfly
2. "we'll sit in my kitchen babe/And drink lots of coffee babe/We'll begin just where you left off" Confide in Me
3. "I'll brew up some decaf" TIS
There's another one....
Posted by: George , Harford County MDWhat was the set list for Atlantic City? Could anyone tell me? Thanks
Posted by: Scotty, Alan & Sam , SyracuseG'Day All,
Trying to use the ineractive TV web service, which sucks big time !
Having a few quiet ones after a huge night which saw us drinking beer in the back of a bus till 6am. We got booted from the bar around 1am.
Off to the fair in an hour or so, to see if we can find any of the band members wandering around munching on cotton candy.
Tonight is the 5th and final show for us before the long flight home tomorrow.
If there are any new surprises, we will try and fire this TV thing-a-me up again and post later.
SouthOfHollywood and LWO - Thanks for the logistical co ordination last night If Sam got himself a cell phone we would not have needed phone hook ups from NY to CA to TX to NY !
More later
Cheers,
Scotty, Alan & Sam
Posted by: Gretchen, Ok, here's my idealized setlist for Leg 2:
Cubano Chant
Aja (always)
Pixeleen
Dr Wu
Green Earrings
What a shame about me
Green Book
Night by Night or Don't take me alive
Black Cow
Sign in Stranger
West of Hollywood
Haitian Divorce
Parker's Band
East St. Louis Toodle-oo
Kid Charlemagne
Home at Last
Glamour Profession or Babylon Sisters
Lunch With Gina
Monkey in your Soul
Bad Sneakers (Roseland please)
Royal Scam
Book of Liars
Pretzel Logic
Goodbye Look
Josie or Daddy don't live in NYC no more (for Roseland, especially)
Anything for an encore, even if it's the theme from "Mr. Softee!"
Have wonderful and safe Labor Day weekend all!
Posted by: Gretchen, relaxing with my tea in CTStrolled by the Roseland Ballroom yesterday just to whet the appetite for 9/12. Cannot wait, everyone comtemplating this MUST GO! I also think I encountered a real life Pixeleen at Balthazaar last night..she was seated next to me on one of those banquettes. "Like, my boyfriend and me, like spent 10 days in this hotel and like we left one day and came back to tiny footprints in the bathtub! Ewwwwww and then my watch was gone, it was totally cooool and then he bought me this awesome one.....etc etc"
Honeybun-sorry I missed you, I got home quite late. We'll catch up early in the week. By the way, I ordered the tape, I should have by Tuesday, we'll compare notes! I just hope I can figure out how to play.
Posted by: DACW , Leg Up!!!Leg II Idealized Setlist:
Set I
Cubana Chant
Aja
Time Out of Mind
Pixeleen
Caves of Altamira
Black Cow
Green Book
GodWhacker
Everything Must Go
Home at Last
Set II
Steely Dan Show
Janie Runaway
Lunch With Gina
Haitian Divorce
Things I Miss the Most
Dr. Wu
Josie
The Fez
Your Gold Teeth II
Encore:
FM
Don't Take Me Alive
Posted by: mikem, lbi, njjust got in,
borgata last nite- LUNCH WITH GINA- this really rocks live,
and the band seems into it- DF really moved around during this #;
most people didnt know it, and were confused, cos it sounded great!
i think of DF during the 74 record plant version of *king of the world*: "cooking!"
previous posts mention the sound- it was cleared up by second set-
nice venue- ads mentioned sellout- but there were rows of empty seats; holds less than 3000 people. most people sat, some danced- security was on them ASAP- until the last two #s, then everyone was up.
im wiped- was out all night- but highlights include:
during slang, walter: : "this is atlantic city, right? if you can get slanged anywhere, it's here!"
walter, again: "this is the coolest gig of the tour, this is the coolest audience!" surprised NOT to hear what a great f** audience;
carlock really impressed my musician friends- as did pugh- you have to be cool to play trombone like that! cornelius is oldschool cool, mr. slick; the women were hot- loved them! (we were close- started out in 13th row-little schmooze of the confused event staff got us up to 5th row- anyone who gambled at the borgata pre/post knew the staff, at least the dealers, were shaky- place was packed!)
all in all, great night- band was tight, but not tired; DF looked
not 100%- i cant help but think 1. he's dying, and this is the last tour, or 2. his stage persona, of the old befuddled rock star, trotting out the hits, is some giant inside joke between him and WB
(who should leave haitian divorce alone- great to hear this and caves live)wasnt much of an exodus during slang- it was cool that people hung around;
roseland is a definite possibility- couldnt see it [entertain it]until last night, but the thought of them adding pixeleen or green book, along with LWG, intrigues me!
later,
mikem
lbi, nj
Posted by: Q, Lunchin with GinaTIMTM out
Gina in
yahoo!
Posted by: Bodacious Cowgirl, still reelin'Hey everyone! I haven't visited for a couple o' years--glad to see the GB is still kicking. Finally made it back from the Borgata, which is only about 20 min. from my humble abode; made a pit stop at my local haunt; saw some friends; one martini magically turned into 3, you know how it goes... But WOW, what a fun show--Lunch w/ Gina was an awesome surprise! At my first listen to EMG, that is one of the tracks that stood out for me. I went to the Camden show last Sat., and didn't expect any set changes. The sound was quite muddled at first, but improved as the show went on. Fez off to Carlock and Herrington!!! I was considering Roseland in 2 weeks, but trying to talk myself out of it just for the sake of not spending a bunch of $, but all that nonsense be damned--that's what AMEX is for! Hope to meet up with some of you fine folks at the Le Bar Bat wing ding, or whatever...
Peace out,
BC
Posted by: Raise up your glass, to a change in the set listGETTING READY FOR ROSELAND!!!!!!!!!!
Tonite (yesterday) Set 2
The Bogota in Atlantic City, NJ
Things I Miss The Most---OUT!
Lunch With Gina--IN!!
More More More More....PLEASE!
Posted by: DanFanDan, Home At LastBuzz..............you're killing me....y'all had Lunch?!?!?!
Awesome....hopefully that holds out until October...
DFD
Posted by: Buzz, Through WithJust back from Borgata.....Three words:
Lunch With Gina
I'm Bustin'! What a show.
Posted by: DanFanDan, Home At LastHey ...AGNG...are you going to the Concord show as well...I see you mention Oct 4th a bit below...
We'll have to have a true Danfest for that show all Bay Areans +... The Konocti logistics and 100 degreee heat I think made it a bit difficult.
Looking forward to the gig...and hoping I win the lottery before the Maui show!
DFD
Posted by: MeSoWise, MNEB - "That was probably Bill Charlap... "
I had that thought, too, but I don’t think it was Bill either. I think WB said his name (first or last?) was Alexander but I'm not positive.
Regardless, the show, like all of 'em this tour the way it sounds, was incredible. Starting with Aja(!) makes a great statement about whether or not this band can cut classic SD. That just blows me away...
I know there's a long collective wish list for the setlist, but was anyone else surprised that they're not doing Gina? It seems like a natural for this band. Saved for the 2nd leg?
Pls forgive the rambling...
Posted by: Eric, San Diego, CaliforniaThat was probably Bill Charlap. He was a guest performer, according to the official steely dan website, as well as the other keyboardist on EMG.
EB
Posted by: MeSoWise, MNK - this has been buggin me... In St. Paul on 08/07 I'd <I>swear</I> Walt intro'd a keyboard player who was not TB. Any ideas? He played all the TB parts (mostly piano, moved to Rhodie, etc when DF roamed) but I was listening for Ted's name & it was something different.
'preciate ya.
Posted by: Honeybun, Gretchen: sorry I didn't see you at the Greenroom. Another day, perhaps....Hope you had fun in NY.
HB
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.We're going to get a surprise.
Posted by: Zim, Since there seems to be so much enjoyment drawn from debates here at the Bluebook, how about registering your opinions as to set lists for the second leg? Going to the Oakdale show which starts off the 2nd leg, and wondering if we'll hear something different than we did at Great Woods. Comments? Zim
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Harvey - the second line doesn't scan well with the tempo, can we get corraboration on this from anyone?
Posted by: Harvey, Great show last night as previously reported. The crowd was just about soldd out and was very enthusiastic! Standing O's, going crazy and LOUD after many songs and the band loved it. Also, Becker changed the lyrics a bit on "Slang of Ages", as follows:
"These tabs look iffy, you say they're fine
Let's roll with the homeys and have a real good time"
...very effective, I liked it that way better than on the album! Has he done that anywhere else on the ttour?
Posted by: Mo Leisure, "These Tabs look "Iffy!"Senseless Ditty! (Original,though!)
Yes,I've spent ALL DAY in the "Kingdom of Dan"
Stroking these keys,
Fool that I am!
Searching the Web,without much of a plan-
Taking the day off from getting a Tan!
The whites of my eyes are embedded with Pixels
No Second Thoughts that the dinner I'll fix'll
Be "Sad Cuisine",consumed in front of a Monitor!
If not appealing, I guess I'll just vomit or-
Hit the Backbrowser,play another MIDI
An check out what's Happenin
With my "Cousin Dupree!"
Posted by: Mo Leisure, "Is it Really Monday?"MHL: "We cut to this Blonde,dancing on a mirror."
("We Tap to this line,Dancing on a mirror.")
Posted by: Laina, the stranger signs inBecker: “Certainly, the characters in the title song are celebrating the end of the old thing and perhaps the beginning of the new. That kind of, ‘End of the world office party.’ I think of it basically as a party record.”
Fagen: “The last office party.”
Becker: “Secretaries jumping up on the office copy machine.”
Fagen: “Did you see that movie, Secretary, by the way?”
Becker: “I missed that.”
Fagen: “It was called Secretary. It came out last year. It was on a pay channel. Kind of a bondage-and-discipline movie. Usually I don't go for that stuff, but this was kind of interesting.”
--------------
That's hilarious. Talk about goin' way off topic, LOL.
Lainalove
Posted by: mikem, lbi, njheaded out the door to the borgata- mere keystrokes cannot convey the excitement! will check in with a report tomorrow!
august 30th FINALLY!!!!
mikem
lbi, nj
Posted by: God , "I was real impressed with Donald's nerve. Imagine having the brass balls to sing "Godwhacker" under a tin roof, surrounded by electrical equipment, when lightening bolts were already striking within twenty feet or so."
Sometimes I miss...or actually distracted by the superlative drums and Rhodes...
Posted by: Roy.Scam, VirginiaOleander~ Splendid description of the evening at Manassas, August 27. Made me feel as if I was right there with you. Oh wait! I was right there with you. Well, thanks for putting down the words to help me mentally re-create it in case, some day, in a fit of senility, I forget what a day and night it was. -- I'm so glad I talked you into this trip.
If anyone is sitting on the fence about attending the Dan 2003 tour, don't listen to that cautious, frugal, inner self. Plead, threaten or trick yourself into it. Get up in your own face if necessary. I myself, was indecisive: The expense, the mileage, the abandonment of other matters of importance, the exhaustion and anticlimax of the next day's return to work. Not to mention the previously unknown deterrents such as drowning and simultaneous electrocution by multiple converging lightning bolts. But my friend Oleander saved me from that bugabear mentality with her gift for organizing forays and her enthusiastic style of persuasion. And now I won't have to hate myself for missing an irreplaceable experience. And now I won't also have to hate those among you who have had the good fortune to make a stop on this tour.
WHAT I DID THIS AUGUST 27TH
As fezo and ole described, the WHETHURR (That's the worst spell of weather we've had around here in a long time) was real, real bad for a while there. Earlier, I'd spent 4 hours driving through a perfect pastoral day in my convertible with the top down; then when we started heading for Manassas, it instantly became wrath-of-God, last-20-minutes-of-Ghostbusters, meteorological mayhem. How bad was the storm? We're talking lightning bolts with 10 to 20 tributaries slashing from Mars to the core of the earth in no-point-no seconds. Even Danfans on the way to a Dan concert appeared momentarily distracted. The Audi we were in was nearly split into two separate T's. But the distraction only prevailed through the most flagrantly life-threatening crashes, then group reverie was restored.-- One of the evening's highlights was when we approached the pavilion and the loudspeaker was repeating the message, 'If you're not within the gates, you are advised to return to your vehicle until the worst of the storm subsides." along with some mumbling about the National Weather Service and it's prophylactic warnings. This was a highlight for me because I don't remember a single person turning back or even slowing down. These were Steely Dan fans on what might be a final pilgrimage. What possible PA announcement could turn back that crimson tide? The bad weather lasted through the first third of the show and neither the audience nor the players experienced dampened enthusiasm; the storm kind of came off as a really elaborate light show. In all honesty, I was real impressed with Donald's nerve. Imagine having the brass balls to sing "Godwhacker" under a tin roof, surrounded by electrical equipment, when lightening bolts were already striking within twenty feet or so.
Any description of the concert I might offer would probably sound like Cinquegenarian babbling, but don't be misled by my verbal limitations, they were sensational! This group of musicians is ... Shit! I don't have any words to convey it. Just trust me. If you don't see them, you're a lame ass. (Sorry, sometimes it's necessary to become abrasive; it's for your own good.)
Perhaps I'll try to do commentary on the concert later, but Oleander did it about as well as possible. Thanks to Ole and Fezo and Dave for a great time. Sorry I missed Bill and the Australians, but it was good to see Hutch again. When a musician of his caliber is raving, you know you're hearing primo stuff.
Don't deliberate. Just go.
RS
Posted by: nam, interesting article:
http://onstagemag.com/ar/performance_everything_groove/index.htm
Posted by: nam,
Posted by: Scotty, Saratoga SpringsHoops, thanks for the offer of sorting us out with the GM mugs/caps.
I've been hassling the guy who wouldn't give us one at Jones Beach, because we were Australian. I've tracked him down at every show and tonight he finally relented ! He said "Oh just fill out a bogus form and take one". So now we have the mug. I told him I will hunt him down at Syracuse for the cap and he said, OK - you win.
So thanks very much for the offer, but I've managed to nag him into submission !!!
Cheers,
Scotty
Posted by: Scotty & Alan, Saratoga SpringsG'Day all,
Just back from the show at SPAC. What a night !!
We walked through the gates and almost walked straight into Tom Barney. He was walking around the crowd and no one recognised him !! Except us, that is, so we talked to him for a while and gave him one of those koala's we were giving out at the Jones Beach danfest which he promptly attached to his lanyard. Very cool.
SPAC is simply beautiful. Set in a national park, with streams running right through the venue, it is a stunning location for a concert.
Yet another lightening storm. Donald asked if we had all been "cleansed" by the rains.
No change to the set list. The sound was spot on tonight.
Get this guys. When Ted Baker began his intro solo on My Old School, Donald yells into the microphone "Go you big bitch !" Cracked us up.
Sitting in the business centre at the Hilton in Saratoga Springs and one other lunatic is in here with us. He is printing out some horse racing data. Just started to talk to him and he was at the show as well. In fact, we are sitting with mjrr dude who posts on the yellow !!! Isn't it a small steely world ?
We have ditched our travel agents sad itinary and will bus it direct from Saratoga Springs to Syracuse instead of cab from Saratoga to Albany, fly from Albany to Newark, then fly from Newark to Syracuse.
We have drunk the hotel dry of Heineken and need to make an alternative selection, so will sign off now.
Hopefully, we can post something from the State Fair.
Cheers,
Scotty & Alan
Posted by: steelydoubt, i decided to play a tape today and after i turned off the tape i decided to turn on the radio, and to my suprise, Time out of Mind was playing. But it was way diffrent from the one i have, the instruments were way more defined and teh guitar solo was in the left channel. intresting.
Posted by: LiveWire, Kitchen ConfidentialOleander --
"We'll sit in my kitchen, babe.
We'll drink lots of coffee, babe.
You'll begin just where you left off..."
...or something like that.
Unless Fagen is singing, "We'll sit in my kitchen, Dave."
:-)
Posted by: Mo Leisure, ".....an then,BABOOM, I remember.....!"another MisHeard: "A world become one,days of Salingers son!"
(Only,things aren't always what they a "Pierre" to be are they?
Re EMG-yeah,Boogie would actually work well with the narrative thread! I always see the "sunrise" as being rather weak and watery, un unwelcome intrusion signifying that the party's DEFINITELY over,but the guy n his cronies will probably find another one if they can "Get lucky twice!"
Posted by: Mo Leisure, "Anachronistic,but nice!"Finding "TheDan" in unlikely places
I recently read a new novel entitled "Black Maps",by peter Spiegelman. Basically,it's a "White Collar Crime Thriller,if I had to categorize. Wonder if the authors somewhat of a Fan,based on hos references to the "Illustrious Dan!"
For instance,early in the novel his protagonist refers to ".....putting on a Steely Dan disc-music to (sic) launder money by."
Later in the novel,he refers to a lunch meeting with a colleague in a bar in NYC called "The Black Cow." (Real Place,or another nod?)
Still later,he has Breakfast at "Rose Darlings".
...and finally,towards the end of the novel,he starts a sentence by saying:"In the corner of my eye!"
It was a pleasant surprise for me to find these little Bon Mots,kind of like in a film,when one Director will "Quote" another! I thought it was pretty cool!
Posted by: thefez98, BostonSpeaking of misheard lyrics, off the current EMG album how many folks thought the line near the end of EMG is "Now it's time for us to boogie" (It's actually "Now it's time for us to book it").
Posted by: Pam, on the lamDig your name, DDD! Maybe now, maybe never is my own inside joke. Hubby heard Lunch with Gina and said, hey that line sounds like you except you say maybe now, maybe never.
Meali, you're the bomba.
Posted by: Laina, blasting the Steely for all the returning studentsBill, where can I find this World Cafe interview you speak of? Can it be found on the site worldcafe.com or something?
Lainalove
Posted by: DigDanDug, GroovetimeHardly a word about coffee from the gang, just retsina, Tanqueray, Cuban breezes and tea.
Hey Pam - isn't it "Maybe later, maybe never"?
Posted by: Meal Reviewer, Cali"Sick Fruity Bitches Summer Intermezzo"
Wanna be havin Warren Krueger in my band
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Poppi's in the corner with a retsina stand
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In the caves of Altamira there a picture of a boo
Hip diddy diddy, hip diddy doo
Why in live performance Ron no sing Doctor Wu?
Hip diddy diddy, hip diddy doo
Ridin in the car with the Kid Charlemagne
Hip diddy diddy, hip diddy doo
Don't tell Keith Jarrett it'll be a fucken pain
Hip diddy diddy, hip diddy doo
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Noticia: For best results, play in triadic chord structure, with two intervals superimposed over a root tone.
Posted by: lucky henry,
ole: thank you for saying so. having so many shows in a days' drive has kept me close to home, and sizzlin like an isotope.
I've been to 15 shows overall, but the anticipation for tomorrow's bacchanal at the Borgata has been building all week. we're counting down the hours now...
lh
Posted by: Pam, Maybe now or maybe neverHow about "I'll brew up some decaf" in Trans-Island Skyway. Not sure if decaf really counts as coffee...isn't the caffeine the point?
Posted by: oleander, I wait all night for calls like theselucky henry--hey man, bummed I won't see you at any shows this round. Yes, "The Nightfly," with "I've got plenty of java/And Chesterfield Kings."
What other coffee songs are there?
Posted by: Jaco, UKHoneybun/Gretchen
I picked up that video a coupla years ago on Ebay. Was worth it, just to see Bernhardt and Fagen jam together! Hope you both enjoy it! (When you find yours Gretchen ;) )
I'd love to see a DVD of the Dan from the 03 tour. Since we poor British have been shafted and deemed not danfanly enough to have our own leg 'o' the tour.
It's a pain that never ends.
Regards
Jaco
Posted by: Lonniethekingpin, Dan CentralHey kids,
What's with all the aggression I say a few days ago? What's with RCray and his cronies? I think we all need to just relax, chill at the Manatee Bar, get RCray his Zoloft prescription and some Zombies to warsh it down with, and enjoy the Dan. See ya in NYC for TWO "glory days" at Roseland!!!!
Keep it real -- or whatever.
Lonnie
Posted by: Aunt Faye, Long IslandThanks for the heads-up about the contest on 104.3. I was all set (with two phones nearby), and the thing was easy (they played three songs with "work" themes). Only prob was that today's prize was two tickets for Crosby, Stills, & Nash! No thanks...I can only get my rush from Steely (ooh!) Don and Walt.
Posted by: Rose Darling, SeattleScotty & Alan: Your posts have been so f-ing funny, keep 'em comin'! I'm just sorry I (and maybe a few of the other poster's here) won't be able to hook up with you to enjoy a DanFest/show. Bummer, indeed.
If you ever get out here to the Emerlad City, please look us up, the beers here are splended!
I didn't see a post responding as to why the guys won't do Dr. Wu live. Anyone care to enlighten and elaborate?
SueDave/onlyafool (and anyone else who wants to hook up with us): My e-mail is also above; e-me at your convenience. I'm out of town until next Tuesday. If you're wondering what googoowear is, that's my web business that keeps me up nights. LOL! I sell (get this) infant & toddler clothing in alternative colors; the black garments sell like crazy! You'd think I'd be better off with just one job but I just can't quit the day gig.
I hope everyone in the bluebook has a wonderful and safe Labor Day weekend!
Posted by: Bird Lives, TorontoDave (The Mohel),
When I saw your nickname (brackets above) I was hoping that it was related to the misheard lyrics. Perhaps you are a whole new genre of Steely Dan Fan!! Oy indeed!
Posted by: Bill, PittsburghI heard a little bit of the World Cafe interview last evening. From the World Cafe website it looks like it was a repeat, so it may not be on again. Did anyone tape it? They talk about Jerome Ainton at length and play his legendary introduction at Santa Monica.
Once again, Walter plays the wisecracking smartass to Donald's brooding cynic. I still think they could be a great comedy team if they'd learn not to say "ya know" so much.
Posted by: Scotty & Alan, Saratoga SpringsG'Day all,
Interesting past 2 days we just had. The Nissan show was mind blowing. Seemed the whole band cut loose and let rip. Herington was on fire and Carlock's drum solo got a standing ovation even before he was half way through it.
And rain ! We were soaked to the skin, lightening going off every few seconds, but we had a ball.
Yesterday we arrived at Lake George. Our travel agent in Sydney said it wasn't far from SPAC. Yeah right ! Spent the day tooling around Lake George and trying to scam a room in Saratoga Springs. Everything is booked out because of the holiday weekend but we hit the jackot this morning. We are now checked out of Lake George and checked into the Hilton in Saratoga Springs. About 2 blocks away from SPAC.
FREE internet access at the Hilton, so we might wander down for the sound check and report back if we hear anything not currently in the set list.
Had a great "Instant Danfest" at the Battlefield Inn, Mannasas. The staff even put on a free buffett for us.
Randall - nice wheels man.
Nancy - Loved the Iggi's photo's
And Pam, even though we did not get to meet you, we really appreciate the gift. Thank you.
Sam - We will be travelling to Syracuse by greyhound bus tomorrow, arriving at about 4.30pm so don't sweat it when you are late to leave home (which you will be).
Danfiend, LWO, SouthOfHollywood - Wish you guys were here with us, but glad in a way as we can recover from the alcholic poisoning we all got in NYC.
Cheers for now
Scotty & Alan
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Still...But then again, the people I saw with the cameras may have only been there for the purpose of projecting the show up onto the giant monitors...Don't want to get the hopes up too high just yet...SOH
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Jonesin' for more...Eric...Don't know for a fact if any of the concert footage is being compiled for a DVD (or an HBO-esque special perhaps?) but I do know that I sat directly behind someone who filmed the entire show at Jones Beach (he blocked many of Herington's blistering solos as I had to do much rubber-necking to watch him) as well as seeing a mobile cameraman working the stage from the wings...We can only hope!...SOH
Posted by: Gretchen, Angel, thanks for the info-I'm ordering the video today. I may even have to have it shipped overnight.
Dave-I keep picturing Susan St.James, too! As far as misheard lyrics, "Teahouse on the Tracks" is full of them. I won't even get into what I thought it heard, it's way too funny!
12 days to Oakdale, 2 weeks to Roseland! 52nd streets a junction!
Posted by: Shaun, Bostoneric- Good question. This band is so good it should be documented on tape. I would love to see a pay-per-view or some kind of tv special.
My friend in philly just called and and told me that his wife is sick and can't make the show in Atlantic City. Guess who's taking her place? ME! Say's he's got great seats as well. Hey, it's only like a 6 or 7 hour drive from here. Can't wait!
Roseland...less than 2 weeks!!!
Posted by: eric, Are any of the EMG live shows being recorded for DVD release?
Posted by: Dave, The MohelThis mis-heard lyric thread is really funny, as always. This isn't as good as the others, but hayda!
From King of The World, "I can't be no savage, I can't be no hardware man."
From Josie, "Shine up the candleabra"
This isn't so much a misunderstood lyric as it is a mis-visualized one. Whenever I listen to Green Book and Donald sings, "The new cashier looks like Jill St. John, I keep picturing Susan St. James. Someone please cure me of this malady.
Hoops, what happened to the Slang me clips from Boston?
We got your skeevy girl, here at the Western World.
Oy.
Dave
Posted by: angel, Gretchen: Amazon.com has the Fagen Video. I bought it a few months ago and it is worth the money to see Donald work his magic on the the keys....
That Aja shot, yeah! ;-)
Posted by: Gretchen, workHoneybun, work does suck indeed. The life of a mortgage broker is distressing at times. Thank God for Labor Day and a 3 day weekend. A chat tomorrow night sounds good. I will be going into NYC for the day to check out the Beckman exhibit at MOMA but will be home later in the evening. Tango down to the smoky lobby...see you in the green room!
Posted by: Honeybun, Good luck getting the video. It would be very cool indeed to meet up with other like minded people in the environment we all love, it does get frustrating at times. But you'll enjoy the gig no matter what, that's for sure!
I was hoping to Have a proper chat tonight but found out I have work tomorrow morning! Maybe tomorrow night. Work sucks!
HB
Posted by: Gretchen, Honeybun-
I've been trying to order that myself. I am progressing very slowly teaching myself piano-I've been trying for 2 years and end up playing around with the bloody keyboard creating gibberish! Definitely need help. How I wish you could come to the US and attend Roseland with me! We'd have such a time!
Rajah-go ahead, be Meali's campaign manager. Having a Steely tribute band leader as Gov would be better than the Terminator. Yikes! Bring back Jerry Brown!
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.The outpouring of love in Meali's general direction gives one pause and should make us all wonder whether he'd consider a run for California recall governorship. He is a great communicator, after all. I would worry about what Barna might do to the governor's mansion, though, and they're all kind of accident-prone.
Posted by: YGK, NYCHoops: did you leave me a message this morning?
I'm here now
ygk
Posted by: Honeybun, Gretchen: I saw that pic in the 'Aja' liner notes. I thought it was funny because it is so uncharacteristic of Don, posing with the shirt off, lol.
P.S Gretchen, guess what I managed to get my hands on?.... The 'concepts for jazz rock piano' instructional video by Don!! Ironically, I was at work when it got delivered today so I have to pick it up from the postal sorting office later but I can't wait to see what he has to say in it. That thing is so hard to find but 'Blackstar' finally tracked down a copy for me.
Posted by: dbeefy, high in the custard, oh. Would just like to add my 2 pence/cents worth - Meal, you are the shit, please keep posting. Meal slaggers, how about a sense of humour and some tolerance?
Diolch yn fawr.
dbeefy
Posted by: Gretchen, far from the tick and smoke of the city....Honeybun, I think that pic must have been from the 80's, judging by the dark hair and eyebrows. No one really looked great in that horrible decade. Also, Mr. Fagen does not look confident in that picture, thus making it less than flattering. He is at his most confident when playing or in the studio, or with Walt or other bandmembers. Being famously shy, he was out of his element there and that's why he doesn't look like the Don we both love so dearly. He is one of those guys who looks even better as he gets older, thus the Don of today. (Although, there's a very sexy pic in the Aja liner notes of him back in those days, shirtless, posing with his dog).
Posted by: Honeybun, Re: Balanes's post
"Here is a creepy picture of Donald Fagen:
http://www.willlee.com/scrapbook.php?os=36&ti=52&next=1"
'Tis indeed a very frightening picture taken with Will Lee!!
Check those lips!
HB
Posted by: RCray, NYCYeah I guess I was a little harsh. I take it back meal.
I will just ignore posts which I cannot comprehend.
Post on Meal!
You're right as well hoops...you pay for it so you should run the show.
Regards,
RCRAY
Posted by: Big Fan, it's a great day to go to a SD showGaucho SACD Release:
http://www.highfidelityreview.com/news/news.asp?newsnumber=12737878
Gearing up at the Borgata - AC is nice for sure, but we'll miss you tonight at the SPAC as well Hoops:
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/atlantic/082903PREVIEW.html
Review of the Nisson show - still the greatest boot ever made:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62305-2003Aug28.html
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Wouls I consider ever trying it again - possibly - but I found out I was allergic to liquid soaps about three years ago - Dr's tried everything to figure out why I kept breaking out all over. Finally a business trip - no liquid soap and I didn't break out. Now I have to use Dove - deoderant and fragrence free ... I'm sure this stuff would be fine.
http://www.drbronner.com/soaps.html
Posted by: Laina, lost in the barrioThere are two kinds of trolls on messageboards/guestbooks. There are those who come on to antagonize others, stir up isht and just cause trouble and nastiness. There are also those trolls who just post random, silly babblings that are so ridiculous that ya can't help but laugh (or roll your eyes and keep scrolling). Meali seems to be one of the trolls in the latter category, and I ain't mad at him for it!! He's funny and adds some silliness to this board, which I think is necessary at times. (I especially love his names for the Dan--STEE DAN, STEEVI DO *lmao*) If ya really don't like him or his posts, keep scrolling or click the X. As long as he's not cussing folks out or consistently bringing disquiet to the board, hey...live 'n' let post.
The freaks come out at night.
Lainalove
Posted by: Adding my 2 sense, I don't make the rules up here and I'm apparently in the minority, but I gotta side with RCray and Bounty Hunter. If I wanted to waste my time reading or scrolling through nonsense, I'd be at the Yellow Book. What the hell is so entertaining about a bunch of multi-lingual gibberish? I suppose I can scroll, but fortunately up until this point I haven't had to do that too much here.
Posted by: suedave, the emerald cityRoseDarling & onlyafool: Fremont works for me. My email is above. Maybe we can entice some of the other locals to join us.
Didn't they move the Red Door so that they could build something corporate on the main drag? Ah, the 90's. So over the top.
Gretchen: I love the dr. bonners peppermint soap. I use it all the time.
I always love reading Meal Reviewer when I'm in need of a dose of silliness. Some days I can't get enough. Lighten up peepil!
Posted by: John Ashcroft, 35 sweet goodbyes Hey, WAIT! I'M in charge of censorship here!!! Who wants to spend a year in questioning without benefit of an attourney, not even Geraldo?
Posted by: lucky henry, in the Catbird Seatoleander: I've got plenty of Java.
lh
Posted by: oleander, lay it all on don & waltHey all--I am suffering SEVERELY from post-Manassas bliss. WHAT A NIGHT! (I quote)
We had a nice old-school GB miniDanFest with Roy.Scam, fezo, the Permasqueeze, & me. As usual, I wore Steely-themed garb--having to do with coffee & New Orleans (OK: where is coffee mentioned in SD songs?) After a mellow hang and scrumptious preconcert repast expertly prepared by chef fezo, we piled in the Permmobile and headed to the venue. It was a perfect, cloudless late summer evening. Of course, as we got closer, we drove smack into desperate and dark clouds and tornado-force winds which morphed further into the god-awful-scariest thunderstorm in recent memory. Zeus must have been hitting the uppers hard, and his hurling hand was hot, hot, hot. I was not sanguine on our ability to make it to the show, but despite being soaked to the bone and sure of eventual electrocution, we bravely made it in. And found Hutch and friends--great to see you! I hope the move and gigs go great--and shark deville, straight outta Tampa. The lightning continued to enhance the visuals onscreen for quite a while, and R.S commented that the setlist should be amended to include “Chain Lightning.”
The start was delayed a bit while everyone’s adrenaline rush edged off, but no sooner did the lights dim than the endorphins started to spike. We had lovely center orch seats and could see everyone quite vividly. What a rush when the band walked on and started to play! It was as noted earlier--they were saying: we’re going to fucking pin your ears back, so get used to it. This was my first and next-to-last show of the tour, and when Mr. F & Mr. B walked on (without shaking hands this time), I was just a bag of morphine-analog gel. Damn, I’d go to a HUNDRED shows, and I wouldn’t care if they played “Peg” ten times in a ROW!
Except for an occasional feedback squeak, the sound was very good. The set list has been posted. At first, I was a little dubious about the down-tempo treatment of “Babylon Sisters” and a couple of other first-set tunes, but “Godwhacker” KICKED and the entire second set SLAMMED. The energy and synergy were dynamite. Mr. B was splendid on lead, and his “Haitian Divorce” made me wonder why he didn’t sing it in the first place. He place-tweaked “Slang” with “If you grew up in Washington…” And he gave us “Slang me!“ Mr. F’s voice and delivery were at their inimitable best. I just go all to pieces when he sings, “Give the man some whackin’ space” (among other things). He also did some amazing things on the Rhodes, the Lync, and even the Goofus, Mr.B’s fond moniker for the melodica (wind piano? Diamonica? Melodeon?), and is nonpareil as a bandleader. He’s starting to look kinda like Dave Brubeck, which is not a bad thing. Yeah, he misses a couple words. So what? There’s a lot of call and (audience) response going on anyway.
And the other musicians: Walt Weiskopf has great tone and chops; Michael Leonhart--calm and crisp and strong; Jim Pugh--all the trombone jokes burnt to a crisp in the flames of his riffs; Mr. Bumpus--that immovable exterior belies the perfection and grace of his solos; Jon Herington looks like a young Lou Reed and plays like an angel on aphrodisiacs; Tom Barney--he IS the pocket; and Keith Carlock--omigod, he is a DIAMOND. Even the superlatives of the Fandom didn’t prepare me. I can usually tell where a drum solo is going, but on “Josie” he deconstructed me like a Braque. I also think he’s superbly suited for the Dan with his precise but passionate creativity. And Ted Baker--I wanted to go up, take his hand, and ask him to play solo for me for 3 or 4 hours. I’d love to hear him ply his lyrical virtuosity as he did in the intro to “Josie” in ‘00.
OK, I miss Victoria Cave, and still think the vocal mesh of the Babe Choir ‘00 can’t be matched, but the BC delivered on “Parker’s Band,” and they were steady ON the entire show. “Shake it” went to a whole nother level. Fezo summed it up when he said that looking at Ms. Leonhart made him feel that all was right with the world.
Oh yes, and Mr. Fagen ended with "See you next time!" whatever that means.
Enough raves already. I’m home, richer by a few t-shirts and a poster and another headful of magnificent Steely memories. My shoes have even dried out. Thanks to Roy.Scam and fezo for hospitality and companionship, and the P’squeeze for driving 7 hours each way to chase this particular grail.
And say, anyone up for writing my boss that my grandmother is ailing and needs me to take care of her at Roseland 9/12-13?
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Angel - please continue bothering me.
Posted by: angel, Rajah: You are absolutely correct. Hoops is indeed in charge of this board and in that regard, I was way out of line. I apologize and hopefully won't bother you again. Carry on....
Gretchen: I listened to Royal Scam several times, at the point you refered to and yes, I do hear what you are talking about. I have no idea what does it, or what it is there for. I had been listening to EMG just before that and what a difference in the soundscape between those 2 albums. Royal Scam has a dark sound to it, that becomes even more apparent, when put up against EMG. Wow!
An article about Steely Dan, among others, attracting younger fans.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/arizonaliving/articles/0827oldmusic27.html
Posted by: Gretchen, home Mealie, I especially like your reports on RONALD FAGEN. Keep me informed.
Posted by: Tomorrow's Girl, Greenflower StreetI just read the glowing review of the boys at Jones Beach on the All About Jazz website. They think think they're great. And of course they are. Can't wait to see them next month!!
Posted by: hoops, What a great review, Eel.
My fav part:
"On this evening, the beauty of the music was augmented by the fact that the band was decidedly leaning toward playing heavily-jazz influenced versions of the songs in the Steely Dan canon. This definitely was not a show filled by carbon copies of their greatest hits. By focusing on and leaning heavily on freestyling arrangements (for the majority of the show), the audience was treated to a wonderful mix of jazz-funk soul. "
I wish I could be at Borgata. Sounds like it will be great. Having to work late and listening to the whole box set.
hoops
Posted by: hoops, Thanks to Meal Reviewer, I see the shine in my Japan and the sparkle of my v..CHINA!
Posted by: bluprintblu, the green bookMeal reviewer, I enjoyed the vibe. Post on is what I say. Keep up the good work...
Posted by: moray eel, ?Didn't see this posted. If so, apologies...
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=705
m.e.
Posted by: almost gothic negative girl, be there nowCome on folks, feel the love. Really ; )
I think that for the most part we are all pretty much after the same thing here. So if you know that a particular poster's stuff is a waste of time for you, scroll on by. I do. There's way too much shit in the world these days already to spend time picking on each other here.
{{{(((the bluebook)))}}}
I am really looking forward to another Dan experience on October 4th.
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Heymike - what's belittling is that, indeed, what Meali writes is not English and you do need and don't possess, evidently, any Spanish, Italian, French, Potugese or Romanian to decipher Meal Reviewer. Meali strikes at the very heart of our ignorance of other languages.
Posted by: heymike, approaching the stand...I have to agree with the meal slammers. I try to read it to give the guy the benefit of the doubt,but I don't get it. It's not english, I dont know what it is. Looks like someone's 3 year old is playing with the PC. It's belittling really as compared to what is usually posted on here,
but that's just my opinion, and I could be wrong....
Posted by: Hank Silvers,
DJ, about the "baion", the link to the full story on the Rhino Records page no longer works, but there is an excerpt from it at oleander's essential SD feverdreams site (specifically, http://www.feverdreams.net/teahouse.htm ).
And here's a link to a site that describes how one 60's band used the baion beat and how it may have influenced one of the top bands of the 70's: http://www.tsimon.com/jayamer.htm
Posted by: Rajah of Gratitude, L.A.I just wanna say you guys in here are the right-ee-ous best. RCRAY and Bounti-full, your outbursts were outrageous but alive, I can't fault you for that. Don't leave us cause we whacked you a touch, believe me, Hoopster-Daddy had a few words of wisdom for the Rajah a while back. We need you on the Bluebook. Peace and, yeah, chicky-wah-wah. With Barna afloat, we can all swim to shore. Shalom y'all.
Posted by: Bounty Hunter, There's a bounty on Meal's faceDJ- I left the yellow because of crap like that. It's been real good in here for a very long time. A nice change from the other place for sure. I'll lay off. Hoop's has bee doing a good job here keeping out the crap. I'm sure he'll keep it up. (I hope)
Posted by: shark deville, annandale (va)hey guys...
saw the fuckin DAN last night!!!
been outta here for awhile cuz i didn't want to know what the boys were playin on tour... well, now i know!!!
the setlist was a little different than the kickoff show. have they been changing it up all tour?
set I
intro
Aja
Time Out (!!!)
Godwhack
Caves (!#@*!!)
Black Cow
Babylon
Slang
Peg
Home at Last
set II
Steely Dan show intro>
Janie>
Hey 19
Haitian (!#%@#!**!!!)
Things
Parker's
Josie
Kid C
Alive
e: Old School, FM
i'm still reelin' in it, so to speak. but i'll post more later.
Posted by: Jaydee, London EnglandRajah - fully endorse your Meali-support, expressed, I must say, with exemplary restraint and diplomacy. No-one has to read everything here (or anywhere else) - I tend to avoid the high-tech audio stuff but wouldn't want to kick it off the board.
And a 'baion' is a kind of samba thing I think.
Posted by: Joey , " It occurs to me that this is the second instance of your Angelic highness' reaching out to whack the Rajah....................... "
Who could do such a thing ???????
After all , as far as your young Joey can gleam , all the Rajah does is spread love here at the Blue .
JACKY !
Posted by: hoops, Bounty Hunter & Rcray, etc: Who put you in charge of this place? Hey I don't get all the stuff Meal Reviewer says, but more than a few have been saying at the Danfests how they enjoy his posts. If you have a problem or think there's one, email me--I'm glad to talk. But as I am reading your posts now, I'm thinking, "who put you in charge?" I foot the bill here so stop acting like you run the party.
Posted by: DJ, ChicagoI agree Rajah, RCray and Bountyhunter are lame. It's free country and Meal swam here to enjoy the freedom. It's just not America if allow him to be censured. Shame on RCray and Bounty...shame on you.
Question:
The Siegel Bros. were slammin' out a baion
So slick it should have been a crime
What's a "baion"?
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Has everyone lost their sense of humor in here? Cripes, RCRAY and Bounty Hunter, the Meali is one of the stars of this or any other guestbook. I can't believe that both of you would react in such a mean spirited manner. I will grant you that you have to be in a certain frame of mind to appreciate da Meali but ouch boys.
Meali baby - we love you and please don't stop the chicky-boom. Love to Barna and PS do Poppi & Maricon Joe feel better? Chi-wa-wa.
Posted by: Rose Darling, Seattleonlyafool: Sounds good to me, it's been a while since I've hung out in Fremont (prior to the moving of the Red Door from one end of the block to the other - what's up with that?)
What do you think SueDave?
Posted by: Balanese, MiamiHere is a creepy picture of Donald Fagen:
http://www.willlee.com/scrapbook.php?os=36&ti=52&next=1
Posted by: Gretchen, Bill, the soap does have an interesting history, and according to the label, it can even be used for everything from housecleaning to shampoo. (I would not suggest that, though, and do not imbibe no matter how luscious the scent). There are several varieties, I've tried about all, and can reccommend only the original peppermint. The lavender scent is putrid, and the eucalyptis has a medicinal/chemical aura about it. The peppermint is very refreshing, particularly on a hot humid day. (Reserve for summer use only-extended use causes dry skin). Dr.Bronner must have been one wild ass character. Should be in a Steely song, mixing up soaps in his dank basement.
Posted by: RCray, NYCyeah what the fuck (Meal Reviewer)!
Apparently, anyone can post here even people that have no fucking command of the english language.
Who wants to read gibberish?
If you are going to post at least have a fucking point. I can't think of a more worthless thing to do.....Get the fuck out of here you worthless piece of shit.
Posted by: Bill, PittsburghI actually like Dr. Bronner's soap, but the labels are something else. Imagine if the late eccentric artist/preacher Howard Finster had been a soapmaker. You can read one at http://www.drbronner.com/labels/pepmt.pdf - make sure you increase the size so you can read the tiny print. He must have been an interesting guy.
Posted by: Bounty Hunter, Meal Reviewer: Would you please go away! I'm sick of reading your bullshit. Go over to that "other place". You'll fit right in over there.
Posted by: Meal Reviewer, CaliMaster of Piaster stowaway in ocean in "Cathy Lee Clothes" boat a America! Wang dang doodle! El es 43rd persona in STEEVI DO fan club desde mi cuntri come to A! We see him on 66th and Wilshire beggin peepil for kwarter, dollar, or whatever! Look like a piece of shit! In cuntri Master of Piaster es el solo STEEVI DO FAN PERSONA que die un bad soldado! Wang dang doodle!
Posted by: onlyafool, FremontSueDave and Rose: Why don't you split the difference and meet in Fremont, which is where I happen to be at this very moment.
Posted by: Gretchen, drowning in a sea of peppermint.....BigFan, the soap has actually toned down since the dreadful 80's, so now it's safe to use. And it's hemp-based, which is a definite plus.
Kram, DF is hot, not just the way he looks but his mind. Who cares about age? I'd rather him than any of the pretty boys of today (Brad Pitt and co). Don has substance and intelligence, the ultimate turn on.
Posted by: Somebody To Trust, The Gulf CoastAngel- What Big Fan is trying to tell you is that Big blue thing is a bong.
Posted by: Big Fan, when does the weekend start?Angel - nice article - must of been some party. I grew up in just barely suburban Philly and people are right, New England crowds are must more sedate. That guitar drink looks like it's missing an air hole and a metal tube stuck in it.
Gretchen, I had a girlfriend in the early 80's that was into that same soap. Your post brought back horrid memories. I especially remember the soap because it made areas that normally don't see the sunshine tingle in a most unusual and I seem to remember not completely pleasant manner.
Getting ready at the SPAC and NY State Fair - I'd actually like to go to that show. I watched Charlotte’s web again the other night - how can you not love a state fair and Steely Dan:
http://www.troyrecord.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10079677&BRD=1170&PAG=461&dept_id=32272&rfi=6
http://www.theithacajournal.com/entertainment/stories/20030828/music/146509.html
Since I can't seem to activate the Saratoga Danfest mailing list and no one else is sending out anything we are planning to meet at the Hampton Inn in Clifton Park - Exit 9 of I87 in tomorrow afternoon and then drive in together around 5:30 -6:00. If you email me, I'll give you a cell # if you are interested in joining up with us.
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.My dear Angel - fortunately for all of us and unless I didn't get the memo, you have not as yet been appointed the final arbiter of what is in bad or good taste. However, I am informed that one of the first signs of encroaching decrepitude is a distinct loss of one's sense of humor. It occurs to me that this is the second instance of your Angelic highness' reaching out to whack the Rajah. If I've offended you in any way to cause this passive-agressive response to what I thought in my own poor way was an humorous posting, I apologize. If, however, you harbor a larger antipathy then I suggest you lay it out for us. Whip it on me.
Posted by: Kram, is this site...like ..well...what is this site?? ..like everyone goes in here and talks all day...and they know each other...and its like a bizzare kind a' chat rm??...kind of like overweight bald old intellecuals..flirting and stuff...donald fagen..as a hottie?? at first..it was interesting...but now i'm getting jiggy
Posted by: Rose Darling, SeattleHmmm, maybe no one caught the little joke that N. Cognito made??
144 = a gross
get it?!?!
SueDave: Howdy Neighbor! Would love to get together; my office is in Wallingford so getting downtown would be easy. Is that where you are?
Cheers!
Posted by: angel, Channeling Big Fan again....A sort of impressionistic view of a Dan Concert. Check out the picture of the guitar drink. I can see why Donald and Walter tell horror stories about fans at their concerts. What must it look like, from up on the stage.
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/212-08272003-147796.html
I didn't think 144 towels were too much. One never has enough towels. Especially women. :-)
Rajah: That was just in total bad taste. Nuff said.
Posted by: Gretchen, I forgot to add to my backstage wish list, one Scottish Terrier, 3 yrs old or less, mostly black, a little brindle allowed. (Dogs calm stage fright).
Posted by: Peter Q, Brooklyn Gretch -I'm not around my equipment today but I will listen to it. Are you sure it's not one of these vaccuous "Percussion - Crusher Bennett" credits?
Posted by: Gretchen, Peter-He's talking about his own car, she probably has her own. Did you check out Royal Scam yet to hear the growling noise I posted about earlier? Let me know, you're an audiofile so I know you could figure it out.
Raj-I'm not a speedo loving kind of girl. Rather see him in that white shirt he wore at Mohegan. Love the mad scientist look. Come on, you guys are just jealous. If anyone could look half as good as Don at his age they should count their lucky stars! He's sublime. (sigh)
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynFor work in progress we need opinions! In Boston Rag he says "I pointed my car down 7th avenue." Doesn't "My" here show a delineaton of property, his stuff and her stuff? If they shared the car wouldn't he say "I pointed THE car"??
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Gretchen - no, by your own admission, you don't ask for much but I still believe you're a full time job - peppermint soap? And what, no request for an 8x10 of Donald in a Speedo? Hmm, maybe you're over it finally. And, yeah, old farts do need lots of towels to soak up the various leaking bodily fluids and humours that are part and parcel of the aging process. But where, I ask, are the packs of control top underwear?
Posted by: Kram Yeltnuh, VT
Ah the demands of the spoiled rock stars - this is a fun little escape site that is always good for a few guffaws - i'm sure w+d have an overabundance of naps to wipe the corner mouth drool that frequently inhabits the jaws of the elderly
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstagetour/index.html
Posted by: Shaun, BostonGretchen- You mean you wouldn't demand a "Cuban Breeze" for your dressing room?
Posted by: Gretchen, Mt. BelzoniI can see the 144 towels, you can never have enough, especially for that large a group. If it were me, I'd request Dr. Bronner's Peppermint soap,Yon-ka cleansing milk, diet Pepsi, fresh limes, Tetley tea, skim milk, toll house cookies and fresh fruit (no pineapple). Also lavender candles and a silk robe. I'm not too demanding.
Posted by: Rindy, Lookin' forward to Borgata GigHello, good people. Does anyone of you have time for a quick Q?: "You're still the one" is found on Kazaa as a Dan tune. Now that can't be right, right? Just checking..
Wasn't that the song done by Orleans?
-Rindy
Posted by: Rindy, S.E. of SyracuseRe: Syracuse: 144 towels?
Gross!
Well...there's 13 in the band/ensemble alone, plus assorted crew & hangers-on. Can never have too many clean towels...
Many celebs/musicians (not counting Steely Dan in this stereotype) are so obsessed w/pampering themselves and stroking their egos, these lists of demands aren't surprising in the least. Wouldn't be surprised if the majority of what they all ask for is left behind, thrown away, etc.
-Rindy
Posted by: steelydoubt, puts on katy lied/royal scam disc....
Posted by: Gretchen, Something curious I haven't been able to figure out. Exactly 3 minutes and 22 seconds into the title track of Royal Scam, there is an obvious, low growling noise. Has anyone else heard this? What could they have used to produce that sound? I have RS on several different CD's and this appears on all, so it's not just the remastered edition. My guess is that it's supposed to be one of the beasts on top of the skyscrapers. Any thoughts?
Posted by: Somebody To Trust, the gulf coastBobbo: Glad you had a great time!
One thing...The "Annandale" they sing about in "My Old School" is in New York State. Not Virginia.
Posted by: Bobbo, Virginia/DCGreat show at the Nissan Pavillon in the DC area last night! Amid one of the most outrageous lightning storms ever, the show went on and the crowd was great. Some seats went empty as a result of the weather... but the diehards who braved the ride out to Nisson were more than able to carry the load. My Old School absolutely brought down the house (Annandale is nearby) and FM closed the show. DF seemed to be having trouble with his voice, this could be an audio glitch or simply road weary. Becker did a great narrative tune and the intermission opened with a satrical piece by the band "pimping" their merch. T's went for $33. Fantastic vocals last night otherwise.
Posted by: N. Cognito,
Re: Syracuse: 144 towels?
Gross!
Posted by: glamund, Norway Hello, good people. Does anyone of you have time for a quick Q?: "You're still the one" is found on Kazaa as a Dan tune. Now that can't be right, right? Just checking..
Posted by: Big Fan, Pet squirrels?Steely Dan requests mixed nuts before the show - do you think they eat them or do something weird with them?
http://www.syracuse.com/entertainment/poststandard/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-0/1062059744144840.xml
Posted by: dbeefy, back, Jack, to do it againGreetings fellow Danheads, have been away for a while and am catching up with the posts..
a quick misheard lyric of mine, from My Rival -
"I struck a match against the *dawn*"
(so I spent years wondering what that Bar and Grill thing was about! Still, nice image though.)
dbeefy
Posted by: lucky henry, cozy down belowTo the lucky 3,700 attendees of this Saturday's Borgata show (plus 13):
Five exterior windows of the $1.1BB Borgata have inexplicably shattered. Reports indicate there is no danger to hotel guests as only the outside layer of the double-paned floor to ceiling windows is subject. Cost to replace = $2,000/pane. When asked whether passersby should be concerned of these events, management only replied, "Don't look up."
Yes, we are certainly in Steely Dan heaven here in the East. But talk about your major pain and suffering; now our self-esteem is shattered,
lh
Posted by: suedave, seattleHey Big Fan, Was trying to swing Oakdale for a long time but that middle of the week schedule just didn't work out for me. Bummer. Will have to make up for it in other ways! Now while I don't get the benefit of driving relatively short distances to other shows in my neighborhood, I'm kinda right smack in between NYC and Maui! Whats a girl to do?
Hoopsie, those new lyrics are a hoot! I felt like I was right there!
I was in Borders today and heard Godwhacker - that was a nice surprise. Before I knew my neighbor Rose Darling is our very own track spinner, I asked the checkout girl about the Sunset Special and then about where they get their music from, and after she looked at me a little funny, she said often they play new releases...I guess whatever catches their fancy.
Rose Darling my neighbor, we'll need to hook up one of these days, I'd like to hear more about how to get a job like yours. Downtown in a few weeks time or so?
Later!
suedave
Posted by: Q, TPADACW is absolutely right on the Aja MFSL.
It is not from the master tapes as claimed and WB/DF have publicly stated their disdain for the mastering job also. Weak highs and bloated low end.
This pertains to the MFSL vinyl as well as the Ultradisc I and II.
Posted by: Spark of your Vagina, Wow! DACW, where did Becker and Fagen give or at least hint at their opinion on the MSFL Aja? Or am I misinterpretting. Would love to read their words. THX.
Posted by: DACW , RCray: Having both I can say with 100% confidence that thehe Moblile Fidelity gold version of Aja is significantly inferior in sound to the 1999 re re-master which is much fuller and richer...they've come a long way since MCA (the Record Company formerly Known as ABC-Dunhill) released the infamous flatline 1985 CD pressing from nth gen. I remember buying it (one of the first CDs I owned think how much better the vinyl version sounded as the rest of the CDs I owned...nearly lost my religion regarding Steely Dan for a while back in the Dark Age of Steely Dan.. Donald and Walter have discussed their reservations about the MF edition...
Posted by: Pam, I AmRadio station Q104.3 in NY is giving away Roseland tickets - for the last two days they've been running a contest at 3pm. They play 3 songs, you guess what they have in common, you are lucky enough to be the correct caller and blammo - 2 tickets. Today the clue was "Mars"; yesterday was "Alabama". Good luck & good dialing! I hope I win - the only way I could afford tix!
Posted by: hoops, chicagoAttn all guests of hotels in Manhattan for Jones Beach and/or PNC
If you stayed in a hotel in Midtown this past weekend or the weekend before for the PNC or JB shows and liked it or at least thought it was reasonable, could you contact me with name, location, price and other useful comments? THANKS!
jim
Posted by: ed beatty, @home tonight at last All,
Addendum to my previous posting about SACD Gaucho and its recent
release.
There is nothing additional in the liner notes either or something
distinctive to this package
Ed (chilling at my manatee bar) Beatty
Posted by: Rose Darling, SeattleHoops: No, it wasn't me that added RD to Jewel-Osco, it's funny, Jewel-Osco isn't a client of ours (nor is Savon), but we provide the broadcast programs for their "sisters" Acme and Albertson's.
Just for fun, I ran a report that returns a listing of where "Blues Beach" can be heard either in a broadcast or custom format. You may be surprised, but here are the results...
Jos. A. Bank
Seattle's Best Coffee
Casual Corner
Z'Gallerie
Ann Taylor Loft
Red Lobster Restaurants
Crate & Barrel
Franklin Covey
Adult Alternative (our broadcast program)
Hot FM (another of our broadcast programs, Home Depot subscribes to this program, must be why you hear it there)
Adult Contemporary (broadcast)
Bass Shoes
Caribou Coffee
I'm trying to spread the word. :-)
Posted by: molly, slowly tumbling into the sea....ok-i love "dr. wu"-(duh-it's kind of a given)-but why do i keep reading that SD will never play it live? is it the subject matter? nah-never deterred them before-what's up with that? or is there a reason for me to be hopeful?
oh-my misheard lyric-"she serves us spoonbread scenery, she keeps me safe and warm..."
mmm, nothin like spoonbread scenery
later, moll doll
Posted by: hoops, chicagoCouple of great interviews with Dave Brubeck on NPR today:
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1401972
Bending End:
I'd say don't pay attention to those silly surveys but then I am the one who looks to see how many copies of EMG has sold this week. There's something about those sorts of things, you know it doesn't matter but it grabs you anyhow.
SueDave:
Yeah, "Blues Beach" has been getting a lot of airplay in the stores and I still hear "Janie Runaway" a lot too. I've heard "Blues Beach" most frequently, or so it seems, in Home Depot. They even have special lyrics:
"Grab Big Dog a blanket
Angel of my heart
Things may get a whole lot worse
Before suddenly falling apart
Give your roommate Yvonne a ring
Customer assistance is needed in aisle 15."
Queen Bayside, Shaun, others:
You're Damn straight you have to be at Roseland, LBB and all the rest of the event. Be there now!
YGK, others write:
"Just wanted to shout out a friendly post-Bacchanal hello to all those I was fortunate to meet at Bayside's" AMEN!
Meal Reviewer:
Ricki <----=#\
Scotty & Alan:
Great goin' again coming all the way over here. Still looking fo get an SD/GM visor for the whichever wanted it. Please email me.
Kram:
You are raising him right! I've never been to Saratoga, but wish I could make it. Anything in New England, Mid-Atlantic or Long Island would make the short list for me.
Molly:
I would be surprised if they didn't swap out at least a couple of tunes for part two in September.
PeterQ:
You know, I wasn't in the same place for the PNC and JB performances of "Janie." I wonder if that would affect my opinion of it.
Ed:
It was hot & muggy this morning in Chicago and now it's cool and dry. What da...what da is YGK talking about?
Bill, others:
Haven't heard "Jive Samba" but will seek it out. Thanks for the link.
RoseDarling (not Texas):
Are you the one who added "Rose Darling" to the Jewel-Osco play list about 8-9 years ago?
Joey:
Sounds exciting. I know I am in the minority but "Tatoo You" is my fav Stones album.
Big Fan:
Wow! What a collection of links
Sparkle, others:
I thought the MSFL versions were from before the latest round of SD CD masterings (ie from before 1998-2000 remasters.). I'm not so sure I'm nuts about that. MSFL went out of business but now is coming back. Very sad situation they were in. MSFL was owed a lot of money by a bankrupt music chain.. MSFL was owed so much money that it forced them out of business too. Now they are making a come back.
See you laters.
hoops
Posted by: Delia aka Molly (but not from California), KentuckyFife, my daughter deleted your addy. Please get in touch.
Posted by: RCray, NYC
In response to the question from The Sparkle of Your china, Hong Kong:
You can find audiophile quality of SD albums at MobileFidelity.com.
They issued Katy, Aja and Gaucho on vinyl as well as gold ultradisc. The sound quality is supposed to be superior than that of the commercial release.
I have Aja by Mofi and it does sound "warmer" than the new release. That being said I cannot comment on the vinyl as I do not own a turntable but I do have Katy on vinyl.
Also, try EBAY for vintage vinyl and audiophile dan recordings.
Regards,
RCRAYNYC
Posted by: Joey , Hello My Steely Brothers and Sisters ....................
Since I KNOW all of you fine individuals love and appreciate tremendous talent and/or prodigious musicianship , the legendary blues guitarist Mick Taylor ( Yes , THAT Mick Taylor formerly of the Rolling Stones , circa '69 - '74 ) is " rumored " to be performing on stage this evening with Jagger/Richards and company at a club gig in Great Britain . This marks only the second time in thirty years that Taylor has performed with the Stones since " leaving " the band .
Wow , me watching Steely Dan live in concert and now this all in three weeks time -- Oh Lord !
Developing ..................................
JOESEE !
Posted by: Rose Darling, SeattleHi Everyone!
My, oh, my, I must say you all post the best damn mail in this room; I see that a few more people have posted their very first in the last couple of weeks, myself included.
SueDave! It's no accident that you heard Steely Dan in the grocery store...I put it there!
You see, I'm an audio designer for one of *those* companies that provides music for their businesses, so if you were in a Fred Meyer, QFC, Albertson's, etc., it's likely you heard one of my programs. Yes, I do realize I have a great gig here; getting paid pretty good dinero to listen to music all day, but there is form and function to it and it doesn't come without its politics. I just hope Don & Walt are getting the checks....hmmm....
It seems to me that some genius out there should hook up a live feed, so we can party with all you Eastcosters during the DanFests. I'm envious and can't go East right now, working on custom Holiday programs...what the f? Did she say "holiday"???? Ugh.
Keep up the great posts, love hearing about the DanFests and SD shows!
Enjoy yourselves!
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynBill, we posted alot here about Cannonball and albums like Live At The Blackhawk, Live at The Jazz Workshop, etc., and how Cannonball is exactly what Steely Dan means when they say "funk" (as opposed to, say, Bootsie Collins). That was in June. Glad you heard it too!
Posted by: Bill, again, PittsburghFor those not familiar with Jive Samba, there's a clip on this page:
http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/cd/review.asp?aid=54879
I can't listen here at work (firewalls!) so I don't know if you can hear the Home at Last melodic fragment or not.
To me this is much more of a direct cop than the similar two-note intros to Rikki/Song for My Father.
Posted by: ed , palm springs its fffffing hot hereYGK
gotcha
Ed (in the heat) Beatty
Posted by: Bill, PittsburghThe pianist on this 1966 session is future WR founder Joe Zawinul, not future SD sideman Victor Feldman, but you have probably identified a key connection there. The piece was written by
Nat Adderley.
>>Date: Tues, August 26, 2003, 18:42:15 ET
Posted by: Peter Q, Brooklyn
Hey Bill, no coincidence that Victor Feldman played in both groups ey?
>>Posted by: Bill, Pittsburgh
New Plagiarism Alert!
I am listening to "Cannonball in Japan" by the Cannonball Adderley Quintet. On the last track, "Jive Samba", there is a distinctive horn line that is damned near note for note the horn intro to "Home at Last"!!
Posted by: YGK, NYCEd,
Scene: Cutting Room, West 24th Street, Circa 2001-4-5months PDR (Post Dan Release)
Tall, tan, Gentleman enters the bar.....
I, into my 2nd cocktail waiting for the Herington Show......
"Excuse me, but you look like Ed ........"
Pictures?!?!?! Do Share, please......email above
ygk
Posted by: ed beatty, @palm springs today ITS HOTYGK,
I look like who?
I feel sorry for anyone that appears to look like me.
Good to see you man and the pictures Lora of you are priceless
Ed (working on my schedule) Beatty
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynI'm interested to know if anyone who was at the PNC show as well asJones felt that the Janie Runaway at Jones was more of a rocking number, almost heavy metal really, than the other versions? Someone remarked this to me...I didn't think so.
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynI'm interested to know if anyone who was at the PNC show as well asJones felt that the Janie Runaway at Jones was more of a rocking number, almost heavy metal really, than the other versions? Someone remarked this to me...I didn't think so.
Posted by: molly, santa barbara countyfirst post-reading these posts makes me feel comforted, like i'm not alone in my steely fandom...why cant people understand? i'm getting way jazzed about the s.b. show a month from now-is there anyone out there that is going? any news on a wing ding? these east coast shows are getting me antsy! i'm just hoping they pull out some other goodies for the second leg-saw them in paso and honestly, i'm not really sure how they could top it-although they didn't play black cow at that show-one of my favorites. and those zombies are sounding mighty tasty- may have to tailgate it with a few of those.....
later, molly darling
Posted by: Kram Yeltnuh, VermontThis is a great site. I can't stop looking at it, that can be a problem when you are actually pretending to work
I am taking my son (9) to Saratoga. He is wayyyyy into dan. Got all the cd's lined up in the changer for the ride (get him familiar with the stuff he hasn't heard yet) - He sings "things i miss" and has this whole dance routine that he does - so if u see a little boy in the 4th row dancing his ass off during that tune, thats spencer.
Posted by: Scotty & Alan, ManassasG'Day all,
Another quick update on another expensive kiosk.
Firstly, Alan & I are extremely grateful to the extra ordinary lengths both Pete & Shari went to, to make us feel welcome at the Mohegan show. Thank you both for an incredible experience. We will never forget your generosity and friendship.
Now, to the rest of the bludgers in the Wreckless crew !!
Joe, LWO, Danfiend and Sam. Still surviving on 3 hours sleep a night and having a ball. You guys are priceless. Keep up the phone calls.
Sam, I spoke to the manager of the Battlefield Inn and the bar officially opens at 5pm today. I did manage to get him to agree on opening earlier if we get a few people turning up and the barman/women gets there prior to 5pm to serve us. A man is not a camel, you know.
Gretchen, it was great to hang out at Mohegan with you in that amazing waterfall bar.
Al & Jane Lightening, see you at Saratoga.
We won't bother saying anything about the actual shows here. Why even try to describe them ? Theses guys are just from another planet.
Lady Bayside, once again thank you so much for making us feel welcome and providing such a spectacular pre and post party. What a way to see our first show !
Steve & Sandy, thanks for the ticket upgrades. You made the night even more special.
Donald & Walter, if you read this, a big thank you goes out from 2 very humble Australians for providing years of pure delight and for touring this year. Please start planning your next tour immediately.
More from Saratoga if we can get online.
Cheers for now,
Scotty & Alan.
Posted by: Shaun, BostonLady Bayside- Sounds like you did a bang up job at the Jones Beach Danfest! I wish I could have made that show. Oh well...
I am soooo pumped for both Roseland shows! You're right....between the shows and the after-party at Le Bar Bat it's going to be AMAZING! When I was living in NYC I got to see Funkfilharmonik play. They're dynamite! It's actually the perfect band to play after the SD show. The have the jazz, the funk, the soul and the rock to make it a perfect seg-way! I'm even staying at the Novotel so I can be right there for the pre-party on Friday. Then we got Bernard Purdy on Saturday! This is going to be so much fun! If these two days are half as good as the Hall of Fame weekend it's going to be nuts! I think everyone around the country that's a big SD fan should try and make it in for these two shows! Come on people! Get of your butts and make it in to New York City on September 12th and 13th!!! You won't regret it.
Posted by: Meal Reviewer, CaliMeal Reviewer authoritatively lay down the mighty groove: ricki tick, ricki tick, a ricki tick tick. Ticky tock, ticky tock, a ticky tock tock.
In mi contri we have Charlton Heston, we have annoying pop ups, we have Spam for Thankgivin dinner, we have betamax VCR, we have secret underwear in the paper books. Mucha gente no pueden hablar ingles pero pueden cantar SPEELY DAN AJA:
Give me a pill
Or I won't be A-OK
Me moms drown in the bay
Esta musica se me ponga en los nubios de dios mio! Trumpeta de Archangel Miguel!
Posted by: YGK, NYCJust wanted to shout out a friendly post-Bacchanal hello to all those I was fortunate to meet at Bayside's:
Ed (hey, you look like....)& Laura, LWO, the Aussies, Sandy, FanODan.....now will someone refresh my memory, or do I have to hit Lady Bayside up for another Zombie to "return" my memories of that eclectic eve?
Aja: glad you're diggin' it.....
ygk
Posted by: Lady Bayside, NYOkay, I think the general idea is that everyone needs to come to Roseland.
I guarantee Pete's Danfest will be phenomenal. How could it not? There's no tailgating in the parking lot (Roseland doesn't really have one, and it's highly unlikely we can shut down a city block) but we get to party at Le Bar Bat? With Funk Filharmonic? I'm not even going to Friday's how and I'll be at the after party!
I'll bring the roasted pepper and mozzarella salad. (that would be a great visual...me showing up with a bowl of stuff...) Penny needs to make more truffles. They were awesome.
Back to work.
Ugh.
Lady Bayside
Posted by: aunt faye, Long IslandTodd got the news...
The 17-year-old and her friend were hanging around doing some posters for their school club (Model Congress) last night. I popped in Disc 2 of Show Biz Kids so the kid (nice boy, very bright) could just get an idea of what I was ranting about. Well, an hour later, I realized they had moved on to Disc 1. Then Daniele asked me to explain about the "strange chords" her buddy Todd was hearing in the music...so I whipped out the old song book I have with Denny Dias' whole little mu major saga. I hadn't realized the friend was a keyboard player...the music started to really hit him!
Lady Bay, I think I am gonna make an appearance at Roseland...how could I NOT?!?!?! I ran out after the Jones Beach concert...it was such a wonderful experience I couldn't even talk to anyone. But the party was great and the people were mucho sympatico. Penny the Truffle Queen
Posted by: Big Fan, Back at work - bummerNice article in the Hartford Courant today about the Piano Jazz series with Marian McPartland. She's interviewing Nora Jones this weekeand at Tanglewood. Geez, I'll literally be going right past there Saturday morning coming back from Saratoga. Sorry you may need to register to view.
I wonder if they will ever issue a CD of the SD interview like they have of some of her many shows. One of the best SD interviews ever IMHO.
http://www.ctnow.com/entertainment/music/hc-mcpartland.1.artaug27,1,5005207.story?coll=hc-ent-headlines-breaking
Also in the same issue a review of the Mohegan Sun concert:
http://www.ctnow.com/entertainment/stage/hc-steelyrev.artaug27.story
Same Piano Jazz topic from Boston Herald with SD mention:
http://theedge.bostonherald.com/musicNews/edgeMusic.bg?articleid=106
Another review from the local paper:
http://www.norwichbulletin.com/news/stories/20030827/localnews/136108.html
SueDave - I know you are going to the Roseland shows - it's not to late to come out for the Oakdale - but Hawaii sounds even better - have a great trip!!!!!
How's gas prices out there. I'm glad my SD driving tour is almost over - yikes I'm going to get hit hard driving to Saratoga this weekend. Had I known about the huge gas price increases would I have changed my plans - no. I was talking about future tours with someone in the know at the Danfest - they have been touring every 3-4 years - how old will Donald be in 3-4 years? Will he be willing to go on this kind of tour traveling from NH to PA back to CT in three days again? Their response was you'd better enjoy it while you can.
Posted by: The Sparkle of Your China, Hong Kong
Cheers and hello from way back east. This is my first post here.I envy all of you seeing the band on tour. I saw SD in Osaka in 2000. No show has everything but it would make me especially happy to hear Big Black Cow and some of the other less frequently played songs. Does anyone know whether this tour is being filmed for a DVD concert release ?
And the main point here....who can guide me to high end SD recordings ? I have an awesome stereo but try as I might I cannot convince myself that Katy Lied sounds as good as it could. Aja has been released again by Universal as one of its 'enhanced' recordings..and it is an improvement on an already good remastered version. But most of the rest of the albums have only had that original remastering treatment. One exception is Gaucho, which I found about 8 years ago. It cost about $30 U.S. but has been worth every cent.
I don't want to have to buy surround speakers or other new gear. I have enough...just can't find the high end discs.
Suggestions
Posted by: suedave, 40 days and nights of sunBeen enjoying all your posts about all those shows back east. Wish I could have joined you at Mohegan in my home state. Sigh.
Congrats Lady Bayside for keeping the rain back. Here in Seattle, that's a sure sign of a powerful Queen :)
I can't take most of what's on the radio these days, so not hearing much SD on the radio well I guess that's just a little catch 22, isn't it. And CD sales are down, but we all hear SD in the grocery store, don't we? And it's great. Just the other night I heard What a Shame About Me while buying cream cheese & milk...I sang along and everything. And it also means that SD is played frequently, right? I think the only problem is that no one is announcing who is playing the music, but a clear sign that it is "sellable". No worries. Sometimes it just takes time.
So next time sing or hum along, maybe someone will ask you who is playing that great music.
See you in Roseland,
Susan
Posted by: Laina, coolin' out for the next monthBill, I checked out the song and I definitely hear the "Home At Last" intro.
Lainalove
Posted by: The Bending End, RI [back from vacation in ND]RE: "Steely Dan as # 57 ?!?!?!?!" on http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artists.html
It's interesting to see Miles Davis listed here as # 39, as the list is entitled "100 Greatest Artists of Rock 'N' Roll."
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The location/section of my Oakdale seat assignments don't seem to jive with the seating chart on their web site, but here's how they read: Location: Rear Orch Ctr, Section: F, Row: P, Seats: 9-10
Posted by: hoops, really quickMark:
You and your daughter are in all of our thoughts.
Thanks to Big Fan and others for the Mohegan reports..."close your eyes and you'll be there..."
Interesting article, Randall, although I think a lot happened in the 70s (even beyond SD)--Pink Floyd, Led Zep, so much more.
Enjoyed al the "10 Things I miss/reasons...Bayside Bacchanal"
Sorry to hear about the "Gaucho" SACD/CD hybird. Did they at least have the new liner notes from the remaster?
CTE/Nissan has been uncharacteristically quiet. What gives? Have a great time tomorrow night.
Hi O.!
gottago
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Posted by: Gretchen , Oh Faceless Man-
Be not ashamed of your Larry Coryell, George Benson, and (especially) Metheney. Although they are not cutting edge artists, bits and pieces are definetly laid back, chill out music. Coryell's "Angel on Sunset" and Benson's "Masquerade" are 2 favs of mine, cheesy or not. Late 70's fusion is a feast for the ears, but some of the middle of the road stuff can be pretty cool.
Posted by: Gretchen, on the dunes (sigh)ZIM AND WuDuF:
I'd love to get together before the Oakdale show. Since a hubby for me is non-existant, I have no worry. My ticket is:Lower Orchestra Right, Section A, Row R, Seat 17. We can plan to meet around 6:30 or so? The show starts at 7:30. Or perhaps meet at 6, just to be safe. If you haven't seen the show yet, you are in for such a wonderful experience. I'm so let down tonight after a thoroughly blissful time at Mohegan. Let's keep in touch!
Posted by: ed beatty, @home awaiting the next danfest
Hey,
Just procured and listened (2x)to the SACD GAUCHO released today
Don't bother its nothing more than a re-release of the DTS 5.1
version from a few years back.The sound is literally the same
Yawn..Save the bucks for Roseland or whatever,where ever or
whomever
I think the fact that the SD ODP didn't trumpet its release is a
telling statement
IMHO
Ed
Posted by: WuDuF, Bethel, CTZim, we should definitely meet up with Gretchen and the rest for a proper Leg II Dan kickoff. Let me know when either of you read this, adn we'll make plans! Love to hear what the "hubbies" will have to say about all this that night!
I was smoking with the boys upstairs when I heard about the whole affair!
Posted by: Randy, Northern NJ / USA
For yet another angle on fusion, see the following (which you are more than welcome to agree or disagree with):
http://hometown.aol.com/nightfly62/index.html
Randy
NIGHTFLY62(at)aol.com
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynHey Bill, no coincidence that Victor Feldman played in both groups ey?
Posted by: Bill, PittsburghNew Plagiarism Alert!
I am listening to "Cannonball in Japan" by the Cannonball Adderley Quintet. On the last track, "Jive Samba", there is a distinctive horn line that is damned near note for note the horn intro to "Home at Last"!! It's at faster tempo and the groove is more latin, but it's the very same melody. Anyone ever notice this before?
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynMan with no - those are good shows, can't be too much of a backwater.
Posted by: Man with no face, Peter- Yes, fusion is too wide of a term because it encompasses the edgy to the smooth. No one will ever mistake Aja for the Mahavishnu or Weather Report. I haven't listened to "Friends" or "School Days" in years, although I wore the grooves out of "Duet" which was contemporaneous to Aja I think. I listened to "Elegant Gypsy" a month or so ago. I still get out all my Joe Farrell records and listen to them. I will confess to having my share of Rittenour, Larry Coryell, Pat Metheny (go caines, ok hes not so bad), George Benson (eek), spacy ECM offerings, and other stuff I never listen to anymore.
Other shows I'd like to see this year (I live in a cultural backwater and this is about all we get):
Sphere
Pat Metheny
Ruth Brown with Jay McShann
Ron Carter
Paco
Sonny Rollins
Dianne Reeves
My wife likes cabaret/standards/showtunes whatever you want to call it so probably Mandy Patinkin, Stacey Kent and Betty Buckley. Probably throw a little "world" stuff in too.
Posted by: Nostril-Damus, Ruthless, CAEveryone, check out this EMG review:
http://ruthlessreviews.com/music/s/steelydaneverythingmustgo.html
Posted by: Lady Bayside, NYI'm still recovering.
That having been said, I wanted to say thanks to everyone who came to the Bacchanal...Ed & Laura, LWO, YGK, Aus and Jutta, Skippy, the Aussies, AJA (I couldn't forget you, even if Aus was too impaired to type you on the list!), Sandy, Penny & Co., HOOPS (Thanks for the tiara..I'm sleeping with it on!), Jason (sporting the Dean & Deluca shirt...I got him so liquored up on Zombies I thought he'd be spending the show in his trunk!), Nigey and Co, Pete (on whose suggestion I might just go into the Danfest catering business!) and Shari...we had quite the crowd!
4 pounds of shrimp cocktail ($20)
5 fezzes ordered from the internet ($20)
6 pounds of mozzarella and roasted pepper salad ($18)
8 pitchers of Zombies (all totalled, probably about $150)
35 cocoa shells for above referenced Zombies $40)
Getting to see both my favorite band and some of my favorite people in the same night....priceless.
You guys were awesome. What a party.
Wish we could go back...and do it again.
See you at Roseland.
I'll be the one in the tiara.
LadyB
Posted by: Little Wild One, The house near the Gulf Coast The Things I Miss the Most
(a/k/a commemorative flashes from the weekend that was the SD show, Jones Beach, circa 2003)
10. Kamikaze cabbies and the almost assured response from the designated driver of the rental car,(F*** you!!!);
9. The NY state of mind that infused the JB parking lot crowd pre- and post-show....it was a luv thang! Many thanks to our superb hostess, Lady B, and assorted partners in crime, Aussie, YGK, Lisa G., hef (fef?), Sandy and others, (whose names, for now, slip below the horizon line);
8. Serving and sharing libations and sensations to various and sundry members of the Wreck-less crew ALL hours of the day and night (it's noon somewhere, right?);
7. The Babylon Turnpike....(TAKE IT!!);
6. The talk (you two know who you are....);
5. The sex (ok, channeling Ed on this one...PERHAPS he knows something that I don't);
4. Somebody to harmonize with (especially to the WOH parody..."Patron in Tears"...DAMN!);
3. The comfy Wellington Suite (Room 1220, likely still Wrecked);
2. The good cobber mates, (Alan and Scotty...consider yourselves adopted!!);
1. Walt, Don (and the rest of the '03 tour group!!!)
These are the things I miss the most!
Have fun in Nissan everyone!!! I'll be waiting impatiently to hear from ya! XOXO
Posted by: Joey , Hello My Steely Brothers and Sisters .................
Check out this link :
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artists.html
Steely Dan as # 57 ?!?!?!?!
WTF ?!?!?!?!
Horrors ..........................
JOESEE !
Posted by: Gretchen, Peter, you have excellent taste in music. I have to agree with you in that fusion produced by DiMeola, Corea, and Mclaughlin are more hard core, edgy, and frenetic that that of the style displayed on Aja. Aja has an innovative edge over other music of the day with it's heavy jazz influence, and is more "listener-friendly" to recent jazz enthusiasts than the former artists. Heavy fusion would tend to give those new to or less interested in jazz a proverbial headache, in my opinion.
Posted by: Dave, Mohangover SunJust some random observations on last nights Mohegan sun show.
It may not have been a Danfest but a nice group of people enjoyed cocktails at the seafood place accross from the falls. mmmmm....good oysters!
The arena is a very nice facility. I was told it holds about 10,000 people for concerts, but since most of the back of the stage arena was closed, I'd say there were anywhere from 7-8,000. It dosn't seem like there is a bad seat in the house as the balcony is only about 12 rows deep at best. Sitting on the floor, I thought the sound was very good, and enjoyed the video screen imagery.
I will agree with previous postings as to the late arriving crowd, and alot of early exiters.
The music\setlist was predictably good. I know the song FM has taken a beating on this board in the past, but the more I hear it (this is my 3rd show on the tour)the more I like it. It is an upbeat tune that even the most casual of dan-fan knows (and believe me there were alot of them). It is by far Walter's longest and best solo, its got a thumping bass beat, and a great horn segment in the middle.
Haitian divorce, I've said it before, just dosn't seem to fit. I like Walt's singing and really like Slang alot, but this song is like a gator or a snake that just ate a large animal: it just drags along and never really gets off the ground. get rid of it, or let Don sing it at least.
Speaking of Donald, love the long white shirt, scruffy, mad-scientist look. very cool.
One more show to go, cant wait for wallingford.
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynMan with no face - Aja soloing is close to the kind of fusion played by the players they were using then, like Joe Sample-ish, Lee Ritenour-ish, Larry Carlton-ish, but it's nowhere near McLaughlin, Chick Corea, Stanley Clarke, or that kind of fusion of that era. Or not?
Posted by: Man with no face, 1) SD went from a guitarcentric maintstream rock band to a psuedo jazz fusion style with Aja and Gaucho yet maintained guitar in the forefront on many songs. Aja the song with the extended soloing is the closest to the fusion of the day. Don's solo work continues the move away from the old SD. Mostly it still fits in with the pop music expectations of the day.
2) 2VN and EMG explore different pop and jazz forms from within a tightly arranged psuedo jazz context. The rock guitar is gone, leads are Walter blues noodles. Extended soloing is on sax. I find this music just as compelling, although very different than their earlier sounds.
3) This fits into no current commercial music genre. Its not new or classic rock or "smooth" jazz. Its too sonically challenging for "listen while you work" adult contemporary. Donald's voice is not as strong as it once was and is unfriendly to that format also. It takes repeated listens to "get" it. Thus...
4) They will never be in any kind of commercial radio rotation. Nor will they find much play non-commercially because of their major label status and long history. They will get a little airplay upon release just like they did this time around but only for the most easily digestable stuff.
5) I don't think they actually want to do anything other than the creative work. They are certainly not going to go out of their way to promote the record. I don't think D&W care if it sells one hundred thousand or one million copies.
6) The question is will Time-Warner let them go on like this, grammys or no. They must have lost money on EMG unless something is going on that we don't know about. Perhaps there is enough prestige associated with have SD on the label that they will let them continue on in this vein. I certainly hope so.
Posted by: ed beatty, @homeTop Ten Reasons that The Bayside Bacchanal/SD show was FFFING Great
Or why I was glad to be there.
10. Aussie’s Magical Mystical Concoctions in the cooler
9. The Steely Dan Show
8. Lady Bayside arranging for the lightning show above the venue during the Keith Carlock drum solo
7. Hoop’s sporting a fez for the night and more.
6. Aussie’s contribution of the Bayside Bacchanal ID’S (adults only)
5. The sex
4.The Aussie’s from way down under who had to check out SD and Jones Beach
3. The Zombies in the coco-shell
2. The crowning of Lady Bayside with TIARA
1. Walter and Donald of course
Posted by: YGK, NYCGreg: Try the link below:
http://www.carolynleonhart.com/recordings.shtml
ygk
Posted by: Greg, Moncton, NBHi to all,
Just a question to concert-goers. Can anyone tell if me copies of back-up singer Carolyn's Leonhart's solo disc are for sale at the concerts? It's unobtainable in my hometown, and I am holding off from ordering online if I can avoid shipping costs by buying a copy in person. Thanks in advance!
Posted by: Gretchen, Lake NostalgiaRAJ-
The Revolution will not be televised..........
Posted by: Chief of Theory, Queens, NYTicketmonger still has Roseland tix available.
Posted by: Wondering, if...Does anyone here know if the Roseland shows are sold out or almost sold out?
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynWell I guess it depends on your perspective. It was a different era. Their music doesn't move with the times, it's in the "Noosphere", as the long essay on Fever Dreams says. And I don't think alot of those guys ever "played" with them for more than a few studio sessions , McDonald maybe being the exception. I remember reading an interview with Mark Knopfler where he said he didn't even know what the hell he was being asked to play or do.
Posted by: danfiend, Mark
Godspeed to your daughter. I wish her a speedy recovery. She'll be chopping up blocks again in no time.
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Peter thanks for the tip, now why do you think it is that very rarely, if ever, have the big name sidemen come back to SD these last ten years? Is it a money issue, you think, or personalities, LA vs. NY, or just that the Carltons and Shorters and McDonalds and all the rest don't need to do those kind of gigs anymore?
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynMy experience has been that if you follow the five guys who played with Miles on the We Want Miles album - Mike Stern, guitar; Bill Evans, sax; Marcus Miller, bass; Al Foster, drums; Mino Cinelu, percussion; albums by them as leaders, albums they play on as sidemen, and the albums by other guys on the albums, you constantly run across Steely people. But in different contexts.
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.I'll cop to that, Peter, yes, I wish SD would just really can everything like they seem to be threatening and reconfigure into the classic four man ensemble and play some really squirrely jazz. But I'm afraid there'd be revolution. It would take some big stones to do that.
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynYeah but you could make the same case about Steely Dan at this point in time, can't you? Especially if you compare them to people like Bill Evans and Bill Laswell who are constantly pushing the envelope with their music and not caving in to commercial pressures.
Posted by: Zim, NW hills of CTGretchen-Sounds like Mohegan was a near orgasmic experience for you, and a hundred bucks too! A darn good night huh? Picked up some last minutes tix to Oakdale-where are your seats? Looking forward to it! Zim
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Thank you Randall, very informative article on the state of music today including a brief historical survey of how the industry has developed, or should I say devolved, over the last fifty years. He's right - there's NO place for SD on the radio today. Weird stuff out of lockstep with the pop bullshit always tests poorly. I think it points to the greater malaise of our cultural interests becoming ever narrower, partly because of what we are fed and partly our own damn fault, while people become more and more trapped in that "bag" that John Lennon used to sing about. It's yet another failure of our generation. And I'm afraid I have to join Walter in his sentiment that the bulk of young people, especially, are rigid, are boring and unwilling to entertain cultural forms outside the little tiny closets in which they've entrapped their minds. I'm now going to throw my chair through the window and plunge 27 floors down into the abyss. Oh wait, I've got Allman and Dan tix coming up, OK, I'll wait till Xmas.
Posted by: Randall, Direct from LhasaGreetings Scurvy Brothers (and sisters),
Interesting article Bigfan posted regarding declining CD sales: http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B3F08CBE9-2416-42CB-A7FA-12D8D4471141%7D&siteid=google&dist=google.
If the article is accurate, then it makes sense that the Dan is focusing on their old (and still great) material during their concerts. The article says it's the 40+ crowd that is buying all the CDs (I suspect that it is roughly this demographic that makes up the bulk of SD concert goers). It also says that this segment is restocking their CD collections with albums of their (relatively speaking) youth. While I'm sure all of us Dan fanatics already have multiple copies of many (if not all) Dan albums, I'm sure there are many casual Dan fans of this demographic that might be motivated to buy new copies of the Dan's older stuff after seeing them live. While this may not do much for EMG, it may increase album sales overall for the band (and record label). This could be a case where EMG promotion and sales are sacrificed for the greater good. I guess a way to test the hypothesis is to see if there have been any "spikes" in other Dan CDs since the tour started.
Anyway..that is my analysis..or, whatever.
See you at Nissan.
Posted by: HeyMike, These suburban streetsMark in Boston--our prayers go out to you bud. Here's hoping you'll be "watching her wax her skis" in no time!
Posted by: Amigo, SACD/CD Hybrid of Gaucho now at Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AYL17/qid=1061909935/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_2/002-3971977-1918467
Posted by: Gretchen, PAUL MAHONEY-
We had a little Danfest (about 10 of us) by the big waterfall, at the bar there. Started at 6 pm. Sorry you didn't know. I'm going to Wallingford, too, so anyone who wants to meet up before the show either email me or post here. Thanks!
Posted by: Gretchen, Laughing PinesGreat show last night. Met Bigfan, Pete Fogel, Jane Lightning and two wonderful aussie gents Scotty and Alan. Huge crowd, lots of dancing (and drinking)but I guess it fits the casino atmosphere. Like Bigfan said, a very decadent setting but great to indulge in the Dan. Setlist the same, but the rendition of Aja was breathtaking and nearly brought me to tears. (First time seeing Don in person had a lot to do with this, also). Home At Last was dreamy, melancholy and pure delight. I like Walt's bluesy version of Haitian Divorce. I did, however see people streaming out for a break during this and "Slang". Would love to hear Walt doing "Book of Liars" for leg 2. I think his voice has a world-weary rough edge that's so typical of a true blues singer (think JJ Cale). The video background was a nice effect, adding to the surreal atmosphere. I was just rather awestruck with seeing my first SD show, and was trying to take everything in at once. The close ups of Don on the large screens were an unexpected pleasure. He had that sexy-scruffy look going on, and his voice is soooo sensual. I love the way he looks in a white shirt, and that's what he had on last night. He's too incredible for words. Honeybun, bluprintblue, if you could have been there! The girls did a great version of "Parker's Band", very energetic and sweet. The crowd really got into the encores, My Old School and FM, as from what I could see, everyone was up and dancing. All in all a high energy party atmosphere. Of course I got the Aja shirt, and got many compliments on my hand made silk "Aja" wrap. Carlock is truly amazing. Where did they find this kid? Usually I'm not into drum solos but he is out of this world. If his solo on "Josie" doesn't make you feel good, there's no hope! His enthusiasm and energy is a pleasure to watch. All in all, a great evening. After the show I won $100 at the slot machines, so a very pleasurable end to a great night. Now I'm totally "Danned" and can't wait for Oakdale and Roseland. Anyone going to future shows, you're in for a wonderful experience!! Scotty and Alan, it was a pleasure, have a safe trip home! Davis, where were you? Love to all.........G (aja)
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Meali, mi amigo, mi cuor in dolor per Joe & Poppi. Just goes to show, the Dannies va a tutto il mondo per bootlegs de Ronald & Beeker.
Posted by: paul mahoney (the fez man), gardner,mass.Well, first time at mohegan sun arena,and really enjoyed the show as usual,disapointed that there was no danfest to speak of and if anyone has any info for wallingford an e-mail would be appreciated.I hope the boy's come back again soon,looks like 2 or 3 years after this tour,way to long to think about.Want to thank all of the fan's for sending me e-mails of their pics with me,i can't believe the response from people about the "fez"and the mansfield show as a whole,what a great bunch of people,see you all at wallingford....paul mahoney
Posted by: Meal Reviewer , CaliCuando soldados murdify mi poppi he be workin en el jardin de los tomatos. Cuando murdify "Maricon Joe" es gran situaccion! They cum with frogman suits, many soldados, Amphibuous Swat Team, how you say it, with the bow and arra, to murdify. "Maricon" es el gran smugglador del mundo de STEVIE DAN MUSIC! This loco man he travil to Roma, Mejico, Sheecago (he haff prostitua en "Maginificent Mile de Michigan Avenue," Allerton Motel) Bangakok, China, all the wurl for top collecion de tapes. He disperse to the peepil in the night from his *undercover milk truck*. They hit him in the manhood with the bow and arra, he roll en la calle para dos horas screaming "Please make mine a double Sam! Please make mine a double Sam!" Mi popps, they hit him in the breathe with RONALD Look, no air get in su mouth no more, he murdified in the dirt.
Posted by: Big Fan, at home still bleary eyedGood morning. I’m rising late and taking the day off – last day for the kids before school starts tomorrow. Had a great time last night. Seats weren’t on the floor but were enjoyable none the less.
1. Very large crowd – 9000+ I would guess. At least twice what they had in NH.
2. Sound was better – apparently nobody liked the sound in NH including the band. This was better.
3. It’s not a Danfest without Hoops, but Pete Fogel and Shari were there. Great to see them at a concert finally! Hoops you would have had a great time and we missed you!!!!! The casino is just alive with activity – the Steely Dan concert is just an afterthought.
4. Danfest was well attended. Mohegan Sun is a typical casino – the decadence is everywhere. What a change from the peaceful, simple New England city of Manchester. It isn’t quite the Sodom and Gomorra that Las Vegas is – at least I didn’t see any prostitutes.
5. Gretchen – nice to meet you – great scarf!!! I drove the SUV to the casino, but my wife drove home while I slept.
6. Of course Jane Lightning and Mr. Jane were there – we’re hooking up at Saratoga Friday – more on that later.
7. First concert I’ve ever been frisked at – had to pull out my car keys from my pocket. I have a permit to carry concealed in CT – good thing the mini Glock wasn’t along.
8. There was a video feed on each side of the stage – tremendous shots of the band. I’d pay a stack of those black chips for a copy of that!
9. Set list the same – bummer. Show started at 7:15 – ended at 10:15. Intros had no personal chat – weddings, etc.
10. Very late filling in crowd – many weren’t there by 8. Lot’s left early – had to get back to those tables. Lot’s more drinking in the crowd – very few Steely Dan t-shirts – unlike NH or Boston where lot’s of people had them on.
11. Girls wore black skirts with red/pink tops. Cynthia’s may have been the same, but Carolyn’s was a halter with diamond patterns she kept tugging at all night.
12. Don did let the crowd sing parts of Hey 19 – I guess he didn’t trust the NH crowd to know the words. Don made a crack at the start of FM that this was the last of the Mohegan’s – different tribe I think Don – lol.
13. All in all a nice show – we were too tired to even sit and play one hand of blackjack at the $6 table.
CD sales ecline - is quality the reason:
http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B3F08CBE9-2416-42CB-A7FA-12D8D4471141%7D&siteid=google&dist=google
I'd say that marketing was the problem for the newest one. Cmon - Pixeleen would sound great on the radio.
I actually heard Blues Beach on the sound system at the local McDonald's last week - talk about a SD moment!
Posted by: Boston Rag, fade and clickHoops - the answers to your 8 track trivia. I spent most of my youth driving with the 8-track blasting Steely Dan.
CBAT - no tracks chopped
CTE - fade and click on Boston Rag (track 3 to 4)
PL - no tracks chopped
KL - fade and click on Rose Darling (track 1 to 2) and Daddy ..NYC
(track 3 to 4)
Scam - fade and click on Everything You Did (track 3 to 4)
Aja - fade and click on Deacon Blues (track 1 to 2)
Gaucho - ??? I dumped my 8-track player in 1978.
Shame on me for knowing this stuff!
A tough day. My daughter had 7 hours of surgery to correct a curve in her lower spine today. She's doing really well and probably having a morphine dream right now of her first concert last week - Steely Dan in Manchester, NH.
Mark in Boston
Posted by: hoops, chicagoThanks again to everyone for a great weekend. I can't even begin to thank everyone. Sandy--a special hug to you and your bug.
The thing about Carlock is this endless cycle, best exemplified during the "Josie" solo. Keith plays the solo better than ever before, and then the next night you figure it will be as good and instead EVERY NIGHT he outdoes the night before. Keith's like an Olympic athlete who breaks his previous record on every subsequent event.
I got a kick of Jay Black ruffling or noogie-ing Donald Friday. Joey, dare I mention that Jay almost nuzzled Donald?
Jason, watch out for that Dandom Digest guy. Last time I used something from the Digest he sued me.
And now for an 8-track trivia questions: On the old GRT 8-Track Stereo versions of the ABC Steely Dan albums (you remember the periwinkle blue cartridges, don't you?), what songs were cut in half between track changes. (Of course, the quad versions only had two programs instead of four so t'wasn't an issue,
Tangentially, my first copy of "Aja" was on cassette and I still am used to the title track opening the first side.
REMEMBER: Supposedly, the SACD of "Gaucho" is due out tomorrow in the USA.
In September, Chalap and McPartland each have their own stands at Chicago's "Jazz Showcase." The Jazz Showcase is one of the oldest jazz clubs in the US to still be run by the original management (in this case, the Siegel Brothers). They have been running it since 1947, if memory serves me right.
This weekend is the Chicago Jazzfest. Hard to believe that it was a year ago we had the Chicago Danfest and Jazzfest with Katy Lied, Wayne Shorter and Phil Woods performances. Lot of discussion this year about how it needs some new life. Maybe the opening of the new music shed in Grant Park next year will make next year's show a bigger do.
Wish I was in CT tonight. I'm sure Big Fan and friends are having a great time.
h
Posted by: danfiend, Hello Danizens
I want to take this time to give a proper Thanks to all the people who made the Jones Beach experience one for the ages.
First and foremost to the Wreck-less Crew: Scotty, Fanodan, Mr. Sam, LWO, and South of Hollywood, I love each and every one of you! Thanks for EVERYTHING! I mean it! We HAVE to do it again SOON!
Secondly to our lovely hostess at JB, Lady Bayside for a smashing wingding. It was certainly among the best Danfests I've ever attended!
Thirdly to all the folks who I met for the first time: Aussie, Residual Ed and his lovely daughter, YGK, Jason, and those too numerous to mention. Especially the people in our impromptu singing act in the post-fest. We outta take our act on the road. It was great! My throat is STILL sore.
Fourthly being able to see Pete Fogel, the lovely Shari and Hoops again was the icing on the cake.
Lastly to the big guys themselves, Donald and Walter for giving us a reason to get together in the first place. There's no way I can show my appreciation. Thanks SO much.
To those who I didn't get a chance to give it to, my email is listed for those who want to keep in touch.
Let's do it again real soon! Roseland, anyone?
Danfiend
PS: Thinking of you every minute Scotty and Alan. Hugs and kisses.
Posted by: YGK, NYCJoey: incorrect sir - he did nothing of the sort - walked on and off.....didn't get past Fagen to bring anything to him.......and if he did, that would have been an insult.....
Posted by: Jason, very tempted to jump in the car & head to CTReprinted w/o permissions from the Dandom Digest for Aug 16-20,2003
From: StudioSk@aol.com
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:39:59 EDT
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$20.00.
Mailing address for the BEBOP T is: BEBOP DADDYS, Five East Noyes Street, Arlington Heights, IL 60005 check or money order accepted! We have received an unprecedented amount of orders since Donald Fagen has added the BEBOP T to his concert stage attire! Thank you Donald!
If you haven't seen the shirt, email me for a jpg of the T-shirt design! The shirt is a gorgeous periwinkle blue. Get yours today at the LAST MALL!
Steve
Posted by: Honeybun, Any help regarding the Be Bop Daddys t shirt? Someone must be able to tell me...
Thanks
HB
Posted by: Joey , " Hey you Jones Beachers - what the heck did Jay Black do onstage? "
He handed Walter's guitar to him .
{ CA - RACK }
Base hit !
JOESEE !
Posted by: bluprintblu, florida roomMy girl Gretchen! You better come back with details! I know you are going to trip the light fantastic...
Posted by: Davis, BostonI used to think it was
"Reeeling in the E's" How the hell do you do that anyway?
Posted by: Rindy, NYCCathy Berberian (http://members.aol.com/danomalley/steelydan/) - courtesy of the Steely Dan dictionary - this is a cool site if you haven't checked it out yet
It's updated to 2vN, but not yet for EMG
American avant-garde vocalist, born 4th July 1928, died 1983. Her chameleonic vocal style is typified by her rendition of Luciano Berio's Visage (1961), an improvisational piece consisting of sighing, crying, laughing, moaning, groaning and stammering!
-Rindy
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynBrian Sweet's books have alot of info on Cathy B. So does Peter Lavazolli's book.
Posted by: Fiend dude, Fiend, CB is this amazing singer with an otherworldly range and vocal ability. She focuses on Classical music. Just knew she'd have to be amazing for D&W to give a nod to her. When she heard it, she bought copies of CTE and gave them to her family and friends.
Posted by: YGK, NYCCathy Berberian is a subversive Dan-o-file who is able to appear at Dan fests/shows with little notice. Inside tracker. Showed up at the Hall of Fame Week fetes - got inside stuff......
ygk
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.So who was/is Cathy Berberian?
Posted by: danfiend, Walter introduced Jay Black and Donald introduced Charlap.
Posted by: danfiend, Another roundMisheard Lyrics
Dr. Wu: "she is lovely, yes she's Fly" (shows my age)
TTHOA: "We walk across a William Ride"
Kid C.: "Day long, Day long, Kid Charlemange"
Brooklyn: "Brooklyn knows the Trauma under me"
and when I was little:
"Are you really in the sheaves?" No lie. Damn Lizzie.
Posted by: Aunt Faye, Long IslandUm, as far as I know, Cathy Berberian, Jill St. John, and Tuesday Weld are not fictional characters. Neither are Elvis or Sinatra. I, however AM...or at least that's how I felt after one of Lady Bayside's Zombies in de coco shell!
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynDonald introduced Charlap.
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynYGK, you're really off. Walter - that's the guitar player - introduced him.
Posted by: YGK, NYCUnless I'm really off, Donald - that's the keyboard player - introduced Jay Black......
ygk
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Walter has emotions? Huh, whoda thunkit.
Actually, Aqualung and Pixeleen wouldn't work out too well. She'd kick his ass big time. Probably cut him with that knife from her go-go boot, yea, - and watch him bleed. Most of those SD babes are either dangerous, demented, or dysfunctional. Name one normal character; gotta be one somewhere.
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynActually introducing Jay Black was/is/will be about as emotional as you will ever probably see Becker get, he seemed almost choked up when he said "I want to introduce the first guy who really believed in us," or something like that.
Posted by: Gretchen, CTRaj-
How about if we introuduce Pixeleen to Aqualung?
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Yikes maybe they should start bringing on all the fictional characters we've come to know and love over the years on stage. Lonnie, Jive Miguel, one more chimp, Cathy Berberian, Lady Bayside, Snake Mary, Josie, Peg, Dr. Wu, Carlo, Babs & Clean Willie, Tuesday Weld, Jill St. John, Dr Warren Krueger, and of course, Elvis & Sinatra.
Actually, they ought to let Meali-boy and Barna take a bow. That's entertainment.
Posted by: lucky henry, angel: thank you!
my most embarrasing Misheards, both from Nightfly:
"my nom de plume..." (my Mandarin Plum)
and the one I caught Hell for: "we fart..." (we fought)
Heard Green Book on NPR yesterday. Digest discussion a few weeks back made mention of a Danfan on NPR. Not sure if this was resolved, but could it be Harry Shearer, biting political satirist/humorist who hosts "le show"?
One mis-cue, though: at the start of "this week's apologies" segment, he accidentally hit another Dan track; sounded like 3 notes from KC, then got it right: "we're so sorry Uncle Albert..."
lh
Posted by: Is it just me..., Or does anyone else hear the wind whistling through the lonesome pines?
Posted by: YGK, NYCRajah: Jay did his "Clapper" performing routine:
Walk On.
Walk Off.
Jay Black, man.
He didn't even get too close to DF's board......
ygk
Posted by: Laina, Procrastination StationMeal Reviewer: "Mi wefi Barna se gano' un *Steely Dan Party Thong* en Ebay auction! She say I wear it like *Necktie* next gig! No me gusta! She say I too much of nothin with my stink attitude!"
Meali...You are COMEDY!!! *grins*
Lainalove
Posted by: Gretchen, ZIM_
Although being stranded on a desert island with either of them would be wiggy, I'm afraid I'd just have to choose Don. I'd never want to come back! 7.5 hours to showtime.
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Hey you Jones Beachers - what the heck did Jay Black do onstage? This is the "Jay" of Jay & the Americans, no?
Posted by: Aussie, New York, NYAn Evening with Steely Dan at Jones Beach Ampitheatre, Wantaugh, NY, last Friday August 22, 2003 anno domini.
First, major kudos to Lady Bayside for busting her hump in ensuring an phenomenal DanFest in the parking lot outside the stadium. Her Zombies from a coco shell were a huge hit, as were the variety of delicacies neatly laid out, Martha Stewart style, on a well dressed table.
The cast of characters, YGK, SouthofHollywood, Little Wild One, Ed and his lovely charming daughter Laura, Hoops, Pete Fogel and Sharri, the Australian contingency, LisaG, and a whole host of others made the event even more memorable.
Weather threatened but Mother Nature never delivered the goods and the ponchos never made it out of our Audi TT.....but the digital camera SURE did, and from our front row seats were able to get a few great shots of the babe choir, Walter, and one slightly out of focus one of Donald in action. I hope to be able to post these in conjunction with Hoops as soon as he gets the Jones Beach Danfest website up to share with you all, my pleasure.....
And speaking of pleasure, I had these really professional fully laminated with lanyards "Pleasure Passes" made up for about fifty lucky Dan fans...those went over exceptionally well.....Beemer, you've got one coming your way via United States Postal Service. For the record, no one was tossed out on their butts for wearing these (the disclaimer on the back of the passes would make any lawyer squeal with pleasure). I also concoted two diffrent batches of potent potables - Gin Bucket and a Rhum Bucket....Ed and the others will probably post later attesting to the lethal yet pleasureable potency of these Dan Inspired libations.
After a few hours of hard partying before the show, the crowd slowly made their way inside the Ampitheatre. From the looks of things the show was compleatly sold out. I bought the Greek coffee cup Tee shirt in pastel blue for myself and for my wife the wonderwaif inspired Steely Dan baby tee-shirt in pastel pink....both look great.
The show was amazing. Same set list as all others I believe. The sound quality, even for us in the front row could not have been any better....crystal clear and loud. I cannot get into a song-by-song review as your faithful and humble narrator was influenced by many drinks, fine Columbian smoke, deloodin, etc. plus I had not taken any notes during the entire show at all.
Mr. Carlock is not from this world...he whaled away with robotic precision, and never mis-hit anything from his impressive drum kit (Paiste cymbals).
The background graphics were all tastefully done, and at some points resembled those that may be seen at a Pink Floyd or Allman Brothers concert (meaning trippy).
John Herrington: What a talented musician! His riffs were scalding hot and he played with such ease....looked very relaxed the entire time and acknowledged the appreciative crowd after every tune he smoked. Simply amazing.
Walter Becker: never sounded bettre. The look on his face was one of a man having the time of his life. His playing was equally superb. He and Mr. Herrington marry their distinctive playing styles seamlessly and it works very nicely....killer smoooooth.
The Horns: These guys lit the place on fiyahh.
Jim Pugh: Incredible. Who would ever think a trombonist could be positively accretive to a stellar line up of musicians? This guy takes you to school and keeps you after for detention, just to make sure you understand.
On the sax: Walt Weiskopf. Holy shit. One word: WOW.
Cornelius Bumpus: Soul emanates from this man's every pore:Amazing
On trumpet, Michael Leonhart: terrifically laid grooves, also imbued with plenty of funk and soul.
The Babe Choir: Midriffs exposed except for Ms. Mizelle. Incredibly sexy trio grooved so hard, sang so well (Parkre's Band was deliciously rendered)that yours truly was afflicted with lockjaw. Before the start of their first encore, I presented each lady with two dozen red roses, these were very well received especially for Cynthia Calhoun who lifted the bunch over her head and thanked yours truly.
Donald Fagen: No flubbed lines. Rocked mine and everybody's world who was present. Plenty of banter with audience, and he, like Mr. Becker looked relaxed and very happy to be performing...terrific job (Caves of Altamira was nailed by Mr. Fagen...amazing)
The entire Band: I thought they sounded better than they did in their Two Against Nature Tour. Better show all around. Go see it. Worth every piaster you can borrow.
I left plenty of additional colour out of this first salvo since I'm just getting back from our beach house and I'm exhausted, but I will post more impressions/granularity tomorrow.
Finally, to all who made the Bayside Bacchanal what it was: Thank you, and to all those wonderful Dan fans I met for the first time: Pleasure meeting and partying with you all!
Yours truly,
Aus
post scriptte. Bill: where were you????
Posted by: Mo Leisure, "Other Armadillos/Folks like Un Me!"A GREAT Site I've discovered for more MisHeards is amiright.com! It pretty much covers ALL Musical Genres and there's a pretty decent cache of SD MisHeards as well! Of course,expect the "Usual Suspects" to show up in terms of the ones that USED to receive Airplay,WAY BACK in the Day (when they RECEIVED AIRPLAY,outside of Supermarkets an Wood Paneled Elevators!) They also allow you to submit your own Parodies,so "Use your Mouse as a "Rapier", n yo're NO MORE than ONE CLICK away! Have Fun!
Oh,CAN'T RESIST! One More fromIGY: "On that tree,all Graphite n Glitter!" (For the LONGEST TIME, I thought he was referring to a Creosote Telephone Pole! Honestly!)
Cheers!-Mo Lei
Posted by: Randy, Northern NJ / USA
Steely-folk,
For those in the NYC area, tickets are still available for Steve Winwood at the Beacon Theatre (concert date: October 9th); I managed to nab 13th row when they went on sale last week; Tickets are $78.
Winwood is touring to support what may be his finest solo effort, 'About Time' (2003). His set lists thus far have had emphasis on classic Traffic material, which falls in line with the material on his new album. The album embraces extended song forms with emphasis on improvisation and "world music" oriented percussion along the lines of the classic works of Santana, with Winwood making facile use of his abilities on B-3 organ as a centerpiece. Surely one of the best releases of 2003; more in-depth analysis and review coming soon to my site:
http://hometown.aol.com/nightfly62/Nightfly.html
Randy / NIGHTFLY**@aol.com
Posted by: Zim, hills of NW CtWuDuF-I agree! It would have to be Walter if stranded. And maybe it wouldn't be so bad on a desert island with them. At least the tunes would be good.
Posted by: Scotty & Alan, Mohegan SunGretchen - Looks like the place to be is under the falls at 6pm. See you there !
Alan charmed his way into the arena this morning with one of the security guards and got to see the venue and the roadies setting up. No really bad seats anywhere.
For those coming out to Mohegan for the first time, brace yourselves. This place is mind blowing !!
Alan & I have been overwhelmed with the genrosity and hospitality shown to us by EVERYONE we have met. We have still to meet a Steely Dan fan that we don't like.
On one of these outrageously expensive internet kiosks, so will check back in later.
South - Is there gas in the car ?
Cheers Diggers !!!
Scotty & Alan
Posted by: Doctor Wu, New JerseyMisheard lyrics:
Bad Sneakers - "including yours and mine and one more Chip who isn't here"
Doctor Wu - "she is lovely, yes she's fine, and you're..."
And the Boston Rag one already mentioned regarding being laid at Bayside
I'm sure there is more
Posted by: davis, BostonGretchen, Ill be looking for you tonight at Moheagan!!
Posted by: Meal Reviewer, CaliVaca negrita! Vaca negrita! You juego Vaca negrita en mi conga drum en adgio, 66-76 metronomic markos! "En la esquina, de mi ojo, yo vie tu en Rudy's, estabas boracho! Estabas boracho!" Chickies love Vaca negrita, they rub mi but and say Take me down to outrageous Green Street baby! Scotch tapin' the whiskey all night long!
Mi wefi Barna se gano' un *Steely Dan Party Thong* en Ebay auction! She say I wear it like *Necktie* next gig! No me gusta! She say I too much of nothin with my stink attitude!
En mi countri we have "Abba":
You are the dancin queen
Tan and lean
With that Afro sheen
And only seventeen
El presidente say "Abba" is OK but no STEE DAN! Subversive thought control musica! Cuando mi poppi have DON FAGE TAPE THE FLY souljahs die his head in mommi tomato garden, in the black dirt of the heavy vegetables! Is bad countri. In Santa Monica Mall dude give me "flyer":
Is your woman doing her fingernails during sex?
Que this mean?
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Misheard LyricsMy sister will kill me for telling this one on her but...
She would walk around singing Bodhisattva when we were kids only she'd be singing..."Police Driver, would you take me by the hand..." I, of course, NEVER misheard a lyric...Other than the infamous
"You hide in the bushes, BIRD of a man, with Luger in hand..." That and about a hundred others...Yikes...SOH
Posted by: Mo Leisure, Doulble Dreamin (a Page at a Time)Just back from "Drillin' Down the Database,and thought I'd cap off my MisHeards with this "Martini Shot" from "Hey 19:"
"Whose vow is constant,where the hell am I?"
Posted by: Jane Lightning, Any WorldGathering place for the Mohegan Sun Danfest: Taughannick Falls
www.mohegansun.com/dining/lounges_bars.jsp
"Enjoy a cocktail with your friends in front of Taughannick Falls, an 85-foot indoor waterfall flowing down to Chahnameed's Island." And somewhere near the arena. See you at 6:00.
Posted by: Gretchen, The room at the top of the stairsScotty-I will ask for you tomorrow night at Mohegan. Don't know what you look like, though. If anyone else is going to Monday night's show at Mohegan Sun I will be Sec LWR14, Row U, Seat 16. (Although I don't know where the hell that is). If you see something reminiscent of the AJA album cover, that's me. Whomever wishes to email me before the show please feel free! See you all tomorrow evening.
Posted by: garden wall climber, MassachusettsHere's another one. My son referred to "Lemon-on Sisters" the other day.
Posted by: oleander, ok, never mindApparently they conflated Nissan with Merriweather Post. Ben Folds is playing at the latter the same night with Tori Amos.
Oh well.
Posted by: oleander, slowly I turned....Hey!
Anybody know anything about this? From the WAMU website (http://www.wamu.org/tickets/np-steelydan.php):
NISSAN PAVILION
Steely Dan
with Ben Folds
Wednesday, August 27 at 7:30pm
OFFICIAL RULES
To enter to win 2 ticketsto Nissan Pavilion with featured guest Steely Dan on WEDNESDAY, August 27th, 7:30pm, you must submit your full name, telephone number, email address (optional but preferred) on the entry form below and submit it. Only one entry per person is permitted....etc.
...??BEN FOLDS??
Posted by: Mo Leisure, In the Door-By 10-Again!Danfiend,
LMAO at your "Misheards" of GE :)
Posted by: Mo Leisure, In the Door-By 10-Again!Danfiend,
LMAO at your "Misheards" of GE :)
Posted by: Mo Leisure, Outside the Stadium...Yet EVEN MO Misheards.....
This is how I first heard from BabSis:
"We'll jog or Chauffeur,condescend!"
Posted by: Again, YesMis-heard lyric....
"You were laid in Bayside"
Posted by: Steely Show?, ??????Did they ever actually play this tune?
Posted by: RobWired, Where Bird is fromSome more (barely) misheard lyrics:
''Use tact, poison reason ...''
Posted by: danfiend, Mo Misheard lyrixOh, I almost forgot this one. And I SWEAR I actually recall thinking this when I was small
"Baloney is my old friend"
Posted by: danfiend, Back in CHIMore misheard lyrics:
"Curl, Larry, Moe, flies on me"
Posted by: Mo Leisure, "MisHeard Lyrics""As you can see for your cellphone girl,in the Green Book!"
Posted by: oleander, down for ManassasSo who's going to Nissan (Manassas) Wednesday??
Will be heading that way w/ the P'squeeze, fezo and (I hope) Roy.Scam in tow.... Andy? Hutch?
Posted by: Honeybun, Hi, could anyone possibly post the details on how to get one of the 'Be Bop Daddy's' t shirts. I accidentally deleted the dandom digest with the info in it. Any idea if they'll take an order from the UK?
Thanks
Honeybun
Posted by: angel, Here you go Lucky Henry. Since it is so short, I posted the lyrics here, too.
http://www.steelydan.com/sdshow.html
THE STEELY DAN SHOW
Walter Becker and Donald Fagen, ©2000
Boys and Girls
They come from all around
From dear old Stockholm
To Copenhagen town
Forget their troubles
In tasty riddum n' rime
So here you are
And now it's party time
Wrap your mind
Around this sound
And let the goodness ripple down
Goodbye to Lonely Street
You're in the Catbird Seat
At THE STEELY DAN SHOW
If you got backpacks
And pointy little shoes
Late-model roadsters
Or just those walkin' blues
A case of heartache
That you're too numb to fight
A secret sorrow
That keeps you up all night
Well don't you fret
It's not your fault
Just lay it all on Don and Walt
Just trip out on these hits
The groove that never quits
At THE STEELY DAN SHOW
[Sax Solo]
So buy a program
And/or a hat
You don't pass up a deal like that
It's only promo stuff
But hey it's good enough
For THE STEELY DAN SHOW
Posted by: David (formerly known as Tapeworm, Atlantic CityLucky Henry,
A pleasure to meet you last night. The sound in my seat (Row L directly in front of the Bare Midfriff section) was excellent.
The opening chords to Aja got me choked up and I began to tear. It was so beautiful. Call me a wuss if you want!
Hank, I'll be in touch with you to discuss progress on the recording project we talked about last night, and to raise a new issue that I thought of this morning.
Dave
Posted by: lucky henry, at the steely dan show
Hoops - sorry to miss you! couldn't even locate your profile be-bop-boppin' by the stage.
Parker's Band rocks, alright. Donald's Fender intro to Josie was great, 15-20 seconds - didn't remember seeing him do that before. Carlock's Josie solo superb. Herrington's chops right on - every tune. Someone said Donald's stooping posture and white jacket gave him a mad scientist look - nonetheless entertaining as ever.
Are the lyrics to the Steely Dan show posted anywhere? The words were cut off on the left hand side so all I could see was something like: "Take a little --ipple (?) and head on down, leave that Lonely Street behind Because you're at the Steely Dan show..." Is "schtipple" a word?
George - pleasure to meet you; remember, even if they're bitching about work, it's ALL tangentially Dan,
lh
Posted by: yellow bleeds into blue equals green equals infection, Yellow stripeYellow anon infection alert
Posted by: Harvey Morist, Yeah, that TicketMaster notice was strange since the show was originally scheduled for 8pm ( at leasst it is on my tickets)
Posted by: Q, TPACongrats to all Dan Revelers last night!
Now for some alternate "rattling of cages"(segue from wormy's post), check out a review of EMG on Ruthless Reviews' web site along with their other outrageously hilarious fun.
ruthlessreviews.com/music/s/steelydaneverythingmustgo.html
Actually this is one of the lamest "reviews" on the site - others reach fever pitch.
Wormy - Actually, no "rattling of cages" that I saw from anyone. Certainly no venom intended in/in my post
Regards,
Q
"can anyone get lucky twice?"
Posted by: anon, ?BABYLON TURNPIKE ....
TAKE IT!
Posted by: wormy, new orleans or planet janeQ and good dr wu
DVD-A vs CD
I spoke from my own experiences and if you read my post fully you'd understand. why spend huge bucks on dvd-a with the limited software and when vinyl is so good and inexpensive
on the dvd end- Levinson is good stuff - yes a great DVD-a player will beat a great redbook cd player. I don't have it backwards it's just that usually we are talking a mid priced dvd-a player that has none of the internal sophistication of an upper end cd player - it's ALL in the digital to analog stage and the low cost players don't get that right - sorry.
so when you say "blows it away" I've yet to truly hear that, and I have very discerning ears, but then again I haven't heard a $3k or more dvd-a rig.
the scary thing is that DVD-a is only on it's second generation, it will improve. Cd player were terrible for a decade as were the software before remasters
that being said vinyl done right will show those other two formats the door. I just purchased a Nottingham Spacedeck (a british turntable of high repute) sitting in my music room waiting for the full reinforced in the wall install and a copy of all but TaN in my collection.
didn't mean to rattle cages here just talk from a similiar reference point
tom
Posted by: Big Fan, at home
Reference: TIME CHANGE
Hello, this is Ticketmaster Customer Service with an important alert for
your upcoming event. Steely Dan, scheduled at Saratoga Performing Arts
Center on Friday August 29,2003 has changed times. The event will now take
place at 8:00pm. Original tickets will be honored for the new time, or you
may obtain a refund by mailing your tickets to:
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Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, HomeAtLastAUSSIE UPDATE!
For those down under looking for news on your boys, read on...Arrived in NYC late Thursday evening to meet up with Scotty, Fanofdan, LWO, Danfiend and Mr. Sam...After group hugs and things tnagetially Dan we headed out into the dirty city for some grub and grog...A stop at the Stage Deli for a few Brooklyn Lagers and pastrami sandwiches bigger than your head and we were off...Went to a bar called "Faces and Names" and we knew we were in the right place when My Old School was blasting from the jukebox upon entry!...Sam Adams (America's best beer...Marketing, not reality) and shots of Surfers On Acid put a twisted spin on the evening as some of us later got seperated from the crowd (me)...Staggered (staggering?) wake up times the next mid-morn led to a re-gathering for some cob-web clearing cockatails and the ride from hell out to Jones Beach...Hot, humid and hungover is no way to start a Danfest, yet that's what it was...2 in the rental car and 4 more in a hired town car for the 75 minute, traffic-laden ride out to JB...Somehow I got stuck on the hump and by arrival had serious numb-ass...Found our party room, jumped back into the cocktails, forced down some food and headed for the Danfest!...Lady Bayside can sure throw a party!...Zombies in coco shells, Aussie's killer libations (and pleasure passes!) and the company of Pete and Shari, Residual Ed and Lora, HOOPS!, YGK, Sponge Bill, the kind folks (Sandy and ?) who hooked Scotty and Alan up with much better seats and the whole contingent made for one spetacular evening...More is said about what happened next in an earlier post so please read down...Had to leave this crew in NYC unfortunately, but the they are in good hands...The Aussies will be at Mohegan, Nissan, SPAC and Syracuse still to come...Look these larrikins up!...It's a Danny in the making!...SOH
Posted by: John, Dear fellow addicts,
Just in from the Philadelphia/Camden show and a fine time was had by all. Great as always to catch up with you, Hoops! (I wish I had your frequent flyer miles!)
Highlights included a most energized Parker's Band, which kicked off a set of four upbeat numbers at the end of the second set that had the crowd on its feet; Jon Herington's slicing solos on Peg and Kid Charlemagne and Don't Take Me Alive; incredibly tight horn work throughout and of course the rhythm team of Carlock/Barney/Baker, about whom so much has already been written.
I thought the sound was off during the first set. Or at least things sounded dense and murky. I could see musicians performing notes I knew were there, and yet I could not hear them. The second set was much cleaner to my ears (or perhaps my ears had just gotten used to the sound? dunno.)
We are so lucky to still have Don and Walt creating and performing their music. We must not ever take that for granted.
All best,
John
Posted by: The Wreckless Crew, Manhattan, Party CentralHello Danizens Everywhere
From: Fanofdan, Scotty, LWO, Danfiend, South of Hollywood, Mr. Sam
Greetings from the Wellington Hotel in midtown Manhattan! We're just getting ready to head out to see the best jazz has to offer and thought we'd report in to all who weren't fortunate enough to catch last nite's festivities at Jones Beach. If you weren't there, WHAT A SHAME ABOUT YOU!
Thanks to Lady Bayside and YGK and Aussie Torres for all their efforts in organizing a great danfest. A great time was had by all in attendance. Highlights included the pre-danfest music and commraderie of such Dandom stalwarts as the one & only Hoops, Pete Fogel & the loverly Shari, and crazed danfans too numerous to mention.
Lady Bayside's Zombies in the Coco Shell were not to be missed, and Aussie's "Pleasure Passes" are a momento that we'll all cherish.
After a few hours of libations & sensations with those of our kind, we all headed to our seats which were spread all over the venue. At about 8:15pm, the band took the stage and began jamming to the melodious strains of Cubano Chant. Then our heroes took the stage to thunderous applause, and immediately jumped into Aja. Pure ectasy!!!
As if things couldn't get any better, the boys seamlessly segued into TOOM. The crowd was definitely in Seventh Heavan world. From there, the setlist played out much as in the past several shows, with the exception of special appearances by Jay Black and Bill Charlap. Charlap's solo on Godwhacker was egged on by D&W ... a definite crowd pleaser.
Many who were in attendance, including this review panel, ranked this show as perhaps the best SD show EVER! This was certainly true for the 2 Aussies as it was their first show ever! (Once again, WHAT A SHAME ABOUT YOU who failed to show up. Maybe next tour, right?)
Moments of interest:
- Walter finally included the infamous "Slang Me!" line we've all been waiting for.
- As if that wasn't enough, Donald finally said "Ba boom" on TIMTM.
- Donald also said "I'm buggin'!" Everyone split a gut over that.
After the show, the faithful reassembled for a lovefest in the JB parking lot, and engaged in an impromtu jam session. We covered the entire catalog from A to Z. That is, until the local constabulary came enmass and hustled us out of the joint. From there, the party shifted to the Marriott in L.I. where we revelled in the afterglow of what was surely the best show of the tour so far.
Our dime is about to expire, so alas it's time to go. Here's the Big Adios folks. See you soon! Jones Beach has defin'ly been set on fire!
It was a damn good thing!
Posted by: DACW, Q: Yeah, good 'ol DAC!! The pirating concerns and industry bickering killed that one. Those issues and recent RIAA hysteria will lead to DVD-A being the standard I believe in the near future...bye-bye CD!...although of course DVD-A players can play CDs and rather well - I can detect a very slight improvement over my current CD player (my Yamaha bit the big one last year). SACD may or may not sound better - but is not traceable like DVD-A nor does it play videos...which are one of the highlights of Kamakiriad...I'm a little miffed that the "B" single sides and/or Century's End weren't thrown in the Kamakiriad DVD-A as part of an Extras or Bonus section
Posted by: DACW , Mark: I believe it is sloppy labeling. This is not uncommon according to one DVD-A board. EMG and TvN are 24 bit 192 kHz/channel in stereo; 24 bit 96 kHz/channel for 5.1 format according to highfidelityreview.com and other sources including the ODP...I also recall Eliot Scheiner talking about this is an article awhile back...
Kamakiriad and The Nightfly were originally recorded in DDD format for CDs and were remastered at 24 bit 96 kHz by Scheiner (mislabelled on Nightfly) although the original digital masters were at 44.1 kHz by Nichols...
Ironically, a good analog master from the pre-CD days or from an AAD CD might theoretically be easier to transfer to 192 kHz...Having said that the 24 bit sampling vs. 16 bit is more important...
"oversampling" on some higher end CD players (featured on my Yamaha) is really cheating - guessing and filling in the gaps...it helps a bit (works really well for probe satellites of the surface of Mars for example), but can't "make up" harmonics that were lost in the process of making a CD. Classic case is The Nightfly CD vs. vinyl...
Both IEEE (big electrical engineering society that publishes journals and sets standards) and record companies are pushing the DVD-A format. The discs are "watermarked" and
Posted by: Q, Wormy - I live on Augiogon!
Probably the best undiscovered gem of a place for music lovers on the web.
Worm, I hate to say it,but I think you have it backward. A mid-fi system will only begin to render the differences.
My Levinson,etc. system discerns/renders the diffs just fine. To my ear it's in the resonant and spacial characteristics (or lack there of in the MCA and Giant pressings).
Yes, these are formats that may go the way of the dinosaur, but then they said/say that about vinyl.
I already have the vinyl EMG, and imho, it is superior(yes, except for groove noise...).
But then just about all vinyl is superior to my ear...I admit, my ear is biased.
To DACW - my list goes:
(got to get a little snobish here, but when you talking HiFi...)
Nightfly
-------
I) MFSL Nightfly Digital Audio Cassette (only 2 copies were ever made by MoFi and finding a player is even more impossible!, so, this one isn't fair, but...)
II)MFSL 1/2 speed vinyl
III)Japan Pioneer vinyl -high end needs little tweaking
IV) Leiber & Stoller Publisher's disc with "Ruby Baby" only (but this might be the best "Ruby" rendition of all!)- good luck finding, but well worth it as there are umpteen other great and well mastered famous tunes on it.
V)MFSL analog cassette on azimuth adjustable deck
__________________________________________________
2VN
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I)DVDA - ONLY!
II)"Bootleg" euro vinyl version
III) Any disc you can get your hands on...
___________________________________________________
Kama
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DVDA - ONLY!
Dutch vinyl - close second!
Any disc you can get your hands on...
___________________________________________________
EMG -
German vinyl - PLAY AT HIGH VOLUME ONLY!
DVDA - close second if not equal depending on your taste
Any disc you can get your hands on...
____________________________________________________
"Old Catalog"
would take too much space...but, ...any disc you can get your hands on...
Q...
Posted by: bluprintblu, caliMan, I am just so jealous of all the wingdings and east coast goingson...However I am happy to read of good things to come for me at universal on oct. 1st...Hoops! I wish you were organizing in cali too! Can't wait, and as an aside cuz I'm a vinyl nut, I bought EMG on vinyl and it is quite the kind! luv 2 all
Posted by: thefez98, Holding off?/BostonHey fellow Danites,
Danielle and I are really looking forward to the Mohegan Sun show Monday night, despite the fact we're moving 2 days later and scrambling to get shit done at the current home base and coordinate everything (it's amazing what approaching your buddies with a 30-pack of Bud does for their cooperation, with the N.E. Pats season right around the corner).
Just one thought, do you think D&W are holding off to the second leg of the tour to launch 'Lunch with Gina', 'Pixeleen' and 'EMG' (and possibly other old favorites)? It's interesting despite this being a North America-only tour their are two distictive legs and these tunes are glaringly absent (IMHO).
Jim
Posted by: Sandy Musson, Yellow VW New BeetleMANY, MANY THANKS and complements to the new Queen: Lady Bayside! Long may she reign and may the rain stay mainly on the plain in Spain NOT in Jones Beach!
Although I've seen the Dan on all their tours since Kamakiriad, this was the first Danfest I've ever attended. It's not that I'm shy, as Alan & Scott of Australia will attest, it's just that I'm in a "Things I miss the most" life experience right now...ghost on my living room couch. But last night was anything BUT sad cuisine, and the impromptu a-cappella quartet after de concert was just DE best! What I lack in musical talent, I make up for in enthusiasm! And it was a REAL pleasure to meet so many others with that same Danfan blood running through their veins.
Now I'm seriously going to track down that friend of the Leonharts and see if I can score some time in Atlantic City next weekend. Got the jones for another Jones Beach concert...hope it doesn't take another 2 years to score...
See you...up in the sky, it's that cruel Countermoon.
Posted by: angel, Charlap pictures from Jones Beach, up on the Official Dan Page.
Posted by: steelydoubt, today i was messing around with putting pictures in sound (long confusing story), anyway i decided to rip a few sd songs and look at then in a spectral view. well i ripped doctor wu 'cause i knew it sounded funny and wondered why. (sigh) the first half of that song has some wierd sound in the right channel. i dont have golden ears or anything but it really stands out. and as a matter of fact they decided to put a little space before the start of the song, but forgot to get rid of the noise on the tape or whatever (it would be easy to do because at the begining there is about a second of that noise. it sounds like something is warming up.
and btw. this is a rip of the '99 mca remaster
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.On Charlap - - Peter - - thank you I knew I could count on you. Cudos to Rhodsie for whacking my blood Shaun for us all. Tighten up my brother and jump back.
Posted by: rocky rhodes, Shaun:
That keyboard solo on Godwhackers is DF on synth
Posted by: Shaun, BostonRajah- Charlap was buried on EMG??? His freaking solo playing the Rhodes on Godwhacker was out front, loud crisp and clear. What are you talking about????
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynRaj - half flowing arpeggios, half honky tonk barroom dance piano, serious left hand percussive playing. The crowd's bedazzlement was a palpable feeling in the air, you could touch it. Walter encouraged everyone to go see Charlap's trio over the next couple weeks in NYC.
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Hey Jones Beachers - could someone with a working knowledge of the 88s give us a more insightful review of Charlap's performance on Godwhacker? Big rhythmn or wha cause he's pretty much buried on the EMG we got. Hep me now.
Posted by: hoops, One more thing...One more thing:
Anyone see reviews of JB in today's paper? NY Times late edition did not.
Posted by: hoops, nycReally quick:
Missed Boston Rag but what a fucking amazing Danfest and show at Jones Beach last night. Thanks to Lady "You Are The Queen" Bayside as well as Jeff, Bill, Ed, LWO, WOH, and the list goes on and on and on. Thanks everyone for the rides to and fro Manahattan!
LB--how do you do it?
The sound was incredible! Charlap was unbelievable on "Godwhacker!" Every time Carlock does his drum solo, it's the best I have ever heard. Keeps getting better and better. Chief of Theory, that was Jim, host of the 2000 JB Danfest with the Dean and Deluca shirt. Aussie was as always the gentleman giving the girls all bouquets of roses. Jay Black was a suprise: when I saw him hanging around at the Donald side of the stage for much of the first set, I thought it was Roger Nichols. The band was hot. And for me, "Haitian Divorice" is the highlight of the show.
Off to Camden in a few. See you there...sounds like Lucky Henry is doing something at the last minute after all.
Toodles.
h
Posted by: luck henry, the new tunes sound great live. Would like to hear them all. A tip o' the flat hat to David Morgan.
Humidity is OUTTAHERE. What a great day for a hooterie,
lh
Posted by: Boston Rag, sample rateDACW - My copy of EMG DVD-A has a sample rate of 96khz. On the ODP product guide they say that EMG is released at 192khz. Do you have 192khz on your copy or is it a mistake on the Steely Dan website?
Mark in Boston
Posted by: DACW, Wormy: I'm sorry - I must respectfully agree with Q...I am cursed with lead fingers and golden ears...my comparisons are between STEREO DVD-A and CDs only...5.1 is cool - but I don't play with bands on stage plus the tradeoff is loss of sampling rate anyway...
...The problem with CDs is that digital audio at that time (like the 80s y'know) they were designed as a noise reduction system with some increase in dynamic range. However, the problem was that there's barely enought data on a CD for it to provide the full music over the dynamic range (20-20,000 Hz). You know the old engineering addage - twice what you need as a minimum - CDs BARELY provided that and most engineers weren't adept at mastering them into digital and often the original master tapes weren't used or lost. Moreover, CDs think harmonics and echo are noise and often eliminate them creating a less warm, flatter sound especially in the high end. I have a Yamaha receiver and CD player from their best years and it stacks up well against high enders and very good Boston Acoustic speakers that I've recently refurbished...
Frankly my vinyl version of the first 7 SD albums sounded better than the CDs until the 1999 re- re- re-master
In short DVD-A provides the warmth of vinyl while blowing away the dynamic range, S/N ratio, etc.
Specification DVD-Audio vs. CD
DVD-A: Disk Capacity 4.7Gb - Single layer 8.5Gb - Dual Layer
17Gb – Double Sided Dual Layer
CD: 650Mb
Channels:
DVD-A: Up to 6
2 (stereo)
CD: 2
Frequency Response
DVD-A: 0 - 96kHz (max)
CD: 5 - 20kHz
This is a critically important and forgotten aspect - frequencies out of our hearing range that you can "feel in your bones" is important for full music pleasure
Dynamic Range
DVD-A: 144db
CD: 96db
Sampling Rate - 2 channel
DVD-A: 192KHz
CD: 44.1kHz
Sampling Rate –
Multichannel (5.1)
44.1, 88.2KHz or
48, 96KHz
none
Sample Size
DVD-A: 24 bits
CD: 16 bits
24 bits mean 2 to the 24th power vs. 2 to the 16th power or 8,388,608 vs. 65,536
Maximum Data Rate
DVD-A: 9.6 Mbps.
CD: 1.4Mbps
Enough Tech Talk - let's stack 'em up:
The Nightfly: I can tell you my vinyl copy of The Nightfly before I wore it out was simply the best vinyl version of any album I've ever heard and is better than the CD which sounds significantly flatter...
The DVD-A version of The Nightfly simply just blow the door off the CD version!!! It's not even close!! I'm hearing things I haven't heard since before I wore out the vinyl version and MORE. Rainey's bass say on Green Flower Street is captivating - lush and warm...an occasional Wendel II stiffness - but all and all as good as it gets...
Two Against Nature: The CD version is a little harsh on the high end. I can understand why some think the drums are looped (they're not).
The DVD-A version is warmer - think about how Gaslighting Abbie sounds on Plush...A HUGE improvement - almost as much as The Nightfly...THOSE WHO DID NOT DIG TvN FULLY MUST GET the DVD-A VERSION!!!!!! Now you can fully appreciate the multilayered interplay!
Kamakiriad: This CD sounded really 2-dimensional up to Snowbound...For some odd reason Scheiner mixed the DVD-A in 5.1 as usual and a 92kHz version for stereo instead a 192 KHz stereo version. Anyway, a VAST improvement on Trans-Island Skyway and Springtime (featuring real drummers). Countermoon is remixed and a little weird - pretty sure this is a drum machine - couldn't do much with it...more 3-dimensional, but a little bright
YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE FLORIDA ROOM ON DVD-A!!!!!! ...and the subtleties of On The Dunes just washes over the listener!
Everything Must Go: EMG is simply the best sounding CD I've ever heard in my life!! The DVD-A sounds a little better (probably because there was less room for improvement), but not much. It's mixed a little brighter and slightly differently...
Posted by: wormy, new orleans-
Q - the Dan and Fagen solo releases blow away the cd versions???
not so fast
maybe if you have a mid fi cd setup then yes they can be more revealing, but I have both cd and dvd-a and the redbook (that's standard cd) more than gives dvd-a a run for the money on high end audio gear. Now if I had a much more expensive DVD-a or SACD front end maybe it would in theory exceed my upsampling redbook version but who is going to waste that kind of change on a format that may go the way of the wolves.
But hey, for those not making the big jumps up on the audio end, you can get an inexpensive DVD-a dvd combo, enjoy movies and enjoy much better sound for your dollar on the dvd-a's (which are not that overpriced), so yes an enthusiastic thumbs up but it doesn't blow cd away for those who have invested heavily in their digital front ends
do some searches on audiogon.com in the forums
I'll let you know how much better the vinyl (yes vinyl lp) version of EMG is when I receive mine in the mail later this week
audiosnobtom
Posted by: Chief of Theory, Queens, NYTo the dude I was playing chess with at the Jones Beach Danfest: 24. Qa7 wins for white.
Re the show: best t shirt award goes to whomever was wearing the logo from Dean & Deluca cafeterias.
Set list - same as it's been.
Lady Bayside - great catering! Dig those cocoa shells ! Thanks!
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Darren baby - thrilling review, absolutely no detail but somehow you got your point across. Yes my brother, thank you.
Posted by: Darren, New YorkThe show was amazing last night. Aja opener was unbelievable.
Thank goodness the weather held out. Band was real tight and the mix was pretty good except for Donald's mic.
As usual, the Dan of Steel comes through with another trademark performance. Same set as prev mentioned.
Now will have to wait for the next NY performances.
By the way, the "new kid on the block", the drummer was also right on the money.
Posted by: MUGU, LOMMUGU MUGU DEYOOOOOOOOOO
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Me bustin chops over AJA & AIA. Me like. Mucho.
Posted by: NYB,
How about that Jay Black appearance at Jones Beach?
That was pretty unexpected no?
Posted by: My Old Man, back in OregonThanks, Angel etc. for info on Steely Dan Show genesis. They did not do it when I saw them at Merriweather Post in Y2K tour.
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynBeach tidbits - Charlap sat in on Godwhacker and stole the thunder with a ripass piano solo. Becker said "We can't have the cheap band in New York like we can in California." Jay Black came out and took a bow at W's behest.
In this particular configuration Jim Pugh is by far the strongest soloist, he blows everyone else off. He also has the most commanding stage presence, if that term applies here at all. IMHO he is "first among equals" in this band.
Posted by: les, new yorkback from the beach
same show
great sound
gruyere cheese
otis redding
not bad
Posted by: Boston Rag, Wishing I was at JBGot a phone call from Sponge Bill, Little Wild One and Scotty the Aussie about an hour ago. They were having a great time at the Danfest in the parking lot of Jones Beach. I hope the weather holds out for everybody at the show! Im soooooo jealous. Wish I was down there. Keep rockin'!
Mark in Boston
Posted by: bratfille, Ottawafife - I tried to send you an email but it was sent back to me. If you want to talk about Toronto plans or get together at "Timmy's" for a coffee this weekend then send me an message.
~Brat~
Posted by: Joey ,
What ?!?!?!?! Oh , alright , HERE ya go :
http://newyork.citysearch.com/profile/7143685
Talk about a place for a " DanFest " , huh ??? Nobody would
ever remember the gig . I heard it did brisk business though before the
Stones played Roseland last September .
J.
Posted by: Joey, " Maybe Roseland will be different. "
I wouldn't hold my Breath .
I also wouldn't spend too much time at the " Russian Vodka Room " ( Right across the street from Roseland ) before the concert .
Joeyfly !
Posted by: WuDuF, Bethel, CTI am psyched for Leg II. If I know them, there will be a few surprises.Don't worry about these guys "pushing it too far." Remember, slow and steady wins the race, and at the pace these two move at, they should be o.k for quite awhile! Dear Gretchen: I have a friend in California who thinks the same of Donald that you do. I personally will admit that he has alot of charisma while he's playing, but I wouldn't call it sexy. To each his (or her) own, I guess though, right? If I were stranded on a desert island with the two of them (now THERE'S a scary thought!), I must admit I'd have to choose W.B...
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynWell it's off to Jones Beach for tonight's show. I hope it's not the same exact set as last Sunday at the PNC but looks like it's going to be. Maybe Roseland will be different.
Posted by: Q, Down in Tampa...RE: question about opinions on the Dan's DVDA releases; the opinion seems to be universal that not only do they blow away the standard releases(unless you're an analog junkie-with all due respect...), but many high end HiFi stores are using the 2VN, Kama, and Nightfly DVDAs as benchmark discs to showcase their best equipment - that's an awfully strong endorsement itself.
I can't wait to hear the SACD Gaucho after a disappointing DTS 5.1 release of same.
Count me and the Mrs. in on both Roselands - see you there.
Hope we can all Lunch With Gina at the Rose Ballroom...
Best to all,
Q
Posted by: Joey , " Actually, I think the question was "Where was Joey at Denver?"
You make Joey say , Huh ??????
" From TicketMaster :
Sept 12: New York, NY : Roseland | [Tix] on sale now
Sept 13: New York, NY : Roseland | [Tix] on sale now
Sept 14: Toronto, Ontario, Canada : Molson | Rescheduled from Aug:
Sept 16: Tampa, FL : St. Pete Times Forum | [Tix] on sale now
Sept 17: West Palm Beach, FL : Sound Advice Music Amphitheatre "
WTF ?!?!?!?!
That is five shows in seven days . I think D+W are " pushing " it too far this time . Good luck to those who have tix to West Palm Beach ---- 10/1 Don's voice is shot by then ..........................
Developing ..................
J.
Posted by: +/-, Yeah, that is a funny line from Walter...as mentioned before, that link is also a transcript to a promo CD frmo Reprise called "One Hour Sale!" It's the equivalent of the old "Words + Music" CD that came out for Kama, 11TOW, AIA, and 2VN.
Posted by: Mike, Louisville, KYRe: Steely Dan Show
Actually, the song is pretty much the same this year as in 2000 - lyrics and all.
http://www.steelydan.com/lyrmisc.html#track3
Since they list this on their offical lyrics page, I always thought this would make a nice website-only download from SteelyDan.com. Maybe after the tour they'll put up an mp3 of it for their fans.
Who knows,
El Sup
Posted by: RCray, NYCFor the greater glory of the fandom, dandom et al.
Check out this hilarious interview with Don and Walt.
Walt said that in the 70's someone asked him if the chorus of bodhisatva was "spark of your vagina"
http://www.kgsr.com/iTOOLIncludes/steelydan.php
Posted by: Gus, be there nowRazor-Boy...It's not strange at all. Those seats you saw empty are the seats that are saved for the bands guests. If the band doesn't have any guests, the seats stay empty. They were never for sale in the first place. That simple.
Posted by: Razor-boy, Mass.Hoops; the fez-man wasn't too far off on that greatwoods count.
I mentioned in a previous post that the crowd for that show was estimated at about 12,500. That number came right out of monday's Boston Globe. I know that the place used to claim a capacity of 15,000, but I don't know if that is is now more or less, since they added those stupid seats on the lawn.
Anyway, on a personal observation, we were up front in section 1 (right side of stage)and we all noticed a row of seats in section 2 (center stage),about 3 or 4 rows back, that was almost completely empty for the whole show, wierd!
Good luck with the upcomming classes.
Dave
Posted by: Shaun, stoked in Bostn!I'm soooo stoked for the Roseland shows!! Don and Walt's home town. The after party at Le Bar Bat! It's going to be a summer smoker under ground! What a wing ding!!!
Posted by: lp, @air conditioningi agree with hoops on the great woods thing, too, sorry
i was halfway up in the pavilion in section 6 and we actually were remarking how packed the pavilion was! i think people might have wedged in under shelter when the rain came
still reelin from manchester - have fun in the city all!
Posted by: Richard, UKThanks Gretchen - looking forwad to it particularlt how Carlock does
Cheers
richard
Posted by: angel, Channeling Big Fan. Article of ticket sales in the Hawaii shows.
http://pacific.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2003/08/11/daily79.html
Lisa G: Does Daddy know about this? ;-)
Posted by: hoops, nycCan't wait for later on with Karen's great Danfest, Ruf's Flotilla, and seeing LWO, YGK, Ed, Bill, and everyone else. It's pretty warm and kinda muggy but hope it will be great by the Beach. And if it get's chilly, well, then tonight could be the night to pick up that SD 2003 sweatshirt.
Fez98:
I disagree about the counts on Great Woods. To be sure there have more than a few empty seats at some of the larger venues, but what kept running through my mind at Great Woods/Tweeter-Mansfield was how, unlike other shows, the place was packed. I didn't see any empty pavillion seats.
Regarding the no bottle caps rule, it's not that people will throw them. I've seen more than a few people slip and fall on them. A few years ago, a family member slipped and fell down the stairs on a plastic cap and was injured.
With classes getting into full swing, I can't go to shows again until Roseland and then only on weekends. Looking forward to making the most of it.
Can't wait until tonight.
hoops
Posted by: Gretchen, I'm in for Roseland, too!
Posted by: YGK, NYCAngel: I'm down for Roseland Friday with the incomparable Lisa G!
ygk
Posted by: YGK, NYCNOW: WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
It's party time folks - here we go.....the Steely Dan Show at Jones Beach. I've been informed by our Roving Reportre that the Pleasure Passes have made a successful run, and will be a notable souvenir for all who attend the Bayside Bacchanal in the Parking Lot.
So I'll be the cowboy with the sandals and that funky attitude.....hope to see many of you I haven't met yet.......
ygk
Posted by: angel, My Old Man: They wrote The Steely Dan show 3 years ago, during the European leg of the 2VN tour. Added lyrics to it, this time around.
By the way, Blues Beach Live was outstanding. We saw it performed at Paso Robles and you should have seen the girls doing "chillin". :-)
Bratfile: GOTRAINS! Yes, you got a chuckle out of my family last night, when I read the lyric to them. After the Northridge EQ in 94, we had an increase in rail service and they rented some Govermnent of Ontario trains. They still colored green?
"Edmund Fitzgerald!" Is this Andrea Doria, phase 2..... ;-)
Oh God, get the kids in the house, Rajah is back in LA. ACKKKK!!!
Unless the boss nixes it, I am in for Friday at Roseland.
Posted by: Laina, O Leaozinho - Caetano VelosoLOL I've misheard that too...All my friends and I, in HS, thought the song said "....the sparkle of your 'gina"
*blank stare* O__O
Lainalove
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Shaun:
Mis-heard lyrics?
How about...
"The shine of your Japan, the sparkle of your vagina"
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Posted by: My Old Man, back in OregonWas at the Hershey show, and the crowd was very good...singing along through the entire show.
A few comments and some questions:
1) Parker's Band sung by the girls was actually more fun than when they did Dirty Work on the last tour.
2) Carlock is a Golden God (whacker)..and his solo out of the drum break in Josie was as good as it gets.
3) Yeah, I'm a bit tired of the same tunes live..Peg, FM and 19 in particular. Would have just loved to hear Pixeleen, Barrytown, Everyone's Gone to The Movies. Only 2 songs were from records before Scam. It seemed like they tailored the show for this band, but still they would have rocked Pixeleen. I will say that the pocket on Josie was beyond funky to hyperfunk!
4) Thank the Lord they didn't bore us with Blues Beach!
5) Aja was about as beautiful as live music gets.
6) Gorgeous light show.
Questions:
Does anyone know what that video clip was they showed during Haitian Divorce? Lupe Velez, maybe?
What was the deal with the Steely Dan Show. Did they just write that for this tour. It cracked me up.
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, L.A.Meali-baby -- nails head on punto, as always. Sick fruities no messo Barna as YET??!!, artistic differences, meow ovah-deh. Anso Rajini ritorno sta sera e refletto de parole crudele contro Signor Fagen, e rigretto molto. Ron Fagen e Super-Maestro de tuttt le mons. No blowin smoko. Goodbye, ol contri, contri of the faniculee-fanic-u-self, arrivederci mama, e immediatamente put on bootleg "Early SFB" e lo n behold -- EXTRA TRACHINI SEGRETO -- di RF cantanto con lo Walli Beeker, Carlo Carlocchi, e Justino Leon'Cuore; e la cansona, Hesitation Blues. Chiwawawaw...che magna opera. Home at last.
On the flights home I listened to Katy Lied, Alive in America, Two Aginst Nature and Everything Must Go. EMG is a lighthearted album not to be compared in approach with Katy Lied - letting your yah-yahs out, or 2vN, a much more mature and layered work. EMG is stripped-down black and white looney-tunes Dan in a worried world, and as such another distinctive chapter of their career. Green Book, Pixeleen and Lunch with Gina, however, are forever no matter what the era. No comapara.
Posted by: Shaun, BostonMis-heard lyrics?
How about...
"The shine of your Japan, the sparkle of your vagina"
ROSELAND! Three weeks and counting!!!
Posted by: DJ, Mis-heard lyricsThey got the booze they need...
heard as....
They got the booze and needles...
Posted by: Zim, hill of NW ConnecticutHey BostonRag! Just read you have a link to pics of the Mansfield show. Is it possible for me to see them too? We were there and it was just an outstanding night.
Now we're looking forward to the Oakdale show in CT. Sure hope you Toronto folks post a set list quick, since that's only show before the Oakdale, will be interesting to compare songs.
DuWuF-So right! What do people expect them to do, play every song they ever did? Some folks just gotta be complaining about something I guess. See you at the Oakdale!!
Zim
Posted by: Bratfile, OttawaWhile ya'll are requesting messed up lyrics with regional significance, how about they play 'Tomorrow's Girls' in Toronto.... Then Don can sing:
In the cool of the evening
In the last light of the triple sun
I wait by the GO-TRAIN
When the day's busy work is done
(I always pretended those were the words anyways.)LOL
Poor musicians! They can't please everyone it seems.
~Brat~
Posted by: thefez98, BostonAlot of my friends picked up last-minute tix to the Sat. night show at Great Woods in Mansfield, MA for $10 bucks a pop. They caught a great show and it was easy to come up closer as the place was only about 60-70% full (rough guess).
Posted by: Tomorrow's Girl, Stargate and the Outer WorldsEric, I too am going to the Atlanta show Sept. 19. I must say, I don't care if Donald forgets a few words, or the setlist isn't to my liking (that would be impossible!!). I'm just happy to finally see my heros in person. Espically Donald!!!
Posted by: mikem, lbi, njhey all,
here's an interesting link from eBay & clearchannel- called getAccess, it sells pairs of lawn seats to CC venues for twenty bucks!
here's the steely dan link:
http://search.stores.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&sid=81777143&store=get-Access&colorid=5&fp=0&query=Steely%20Dan&srchdesc=y
mikem
-->>lbi, nj
9 til borgata.........
Posted by: Meal Reviewer, CaliBarna practicia "Zellie moves" con la mike stand, swing left shoulder right shoulder dip swing dip dip. Cringemaker Lopez tell her mueve la *colacha* mas...creo que he dont know she mi weif! Don Carlos say esta musica no es sobre sexo! Soldados choke mi popps con RON FAGEN TAPE "Do you have a steady boyfriend? Cuz honey I'm watchin you!" Quien es BRUBOCK??? Poppi say to mi cuando, how you say it, he no breathe in the lung porque booty tape stuck in he windpip, y policia shootin bow and arra at todos los Sick Fruities! Mi moms so sad cuando poppi choke, she canta STEELI DON SONG "Done With Buzz" with bullhorn in the harbor. Ship. How you say, maritime implications?
In mi countri we have Alpo, we have Steven Seagal, we have Lucy Lui, we have Popeil Pocket Fisherman, we dance la ricki ticki ricki ticki, ricki tick tick, we have Gordon Lightfoo:
The church bel chime
It chime 29 times
For each man in the Edmund Fitzgerald!
Lightfoo competio con RONALD FAGEN por la mejor cantador en el mundo de rock n roll! Pues, Fagen cancion es "Green Earrin" y Lightfool, "Sundown." Los justicios dice es un "tie" and the peepil go bonky wonky, quieren FAGEN! NUMERO UNO BABY!
Meanwhile Barna be workin on that little hip action movement when Don Carlos sing "RRRRRoll your cart back up the aisle!"
Posted by: les, new yorkoh, and how bout if they have some fun, and sing...
"jones, beach, i'm dying
sizzling in the merciful rays.."
this way, don can make a mistake, and its all good
Posted by: garden wall climber, JoeHouse, I think the unknown on your list in set 2 is Janie Runaway. It was right before Hey 19.
Posted by: les, new yorkwouldn't it be nice if we could have a concert WITHOUT peg,josie, kid charlemagne, babylon, and hey nineteen?
they all sound great of course, but i am sick of the same tunes every tour, with just one or two surprises..
how bout ALL surprises, like shame about me, pixeleen, and my gold teeth, just to name a few..
and how bout new lines from donald, our mc..tired of the "lets dig back into the 70s'" line, and tired of the ritz cracker line during hey ninteen...
they are the best to be sure, but i must confess, i am shocked at their song selection, and dissapointed that don can't come up with some better band leadership and mc verbalisms...
Posted by: scott, minnesotaHoops - thanks for the DVD-A update from Universal. I hope that my recent DVD-A system purchase was the right one (I was afraid that the SACD release of Gaucho would be the only "high end" CD available, and I guess that could still be the case.)
Does Universal own the rights to their pre-Gaucho releases as well? If not, who? (I can never seem to keep the SD recording company saga straight.)
As DVD-A releases go I would be also be curious to know how well Steely Dan sales compare to others. Any thoughts anyone?
scott
Posted by: Rindy, NYCjoehouse,
judging by previous setlists, your unknowns would be 'slang of ages' and 'steely dan show'
-rindy
Posted by: , Actually, I think the question was "Where was Joey at Denver?"
Posted by: Joey , " I think Don's hot and dark, and that's the way I like it. "
Where were you in Denver ????????
Come to Joey ................
Posted by: Gretchen, I think Don's hot and dark, and that's the way I like it.
Posted by: JoeHouse, Hershey Star Pavilion 20 August 2003:
Set 1
1. AJA
2. Time Out of Mind
3. Godwhacker
4. Caves of Altamira
5. Black Cow
6. Babylon Sisters
7. *unknown*
8. Peg
9. Home at Last
Set 2
1. *unknown*
2. Hey 19
3. Haitian Divorce
4. The Things I miss the most
5. Parkers Band
6. Josie
7. Kid Charlegmagne
8. Don't take me alive
ENCORE
1. My Old School
2. FM
What a show. As Donald himself said after his first few tunes: "Its hot and its dark, and thats the way we like it." The opener was not a surprise, but the upbeat feel to AJA live was perfect. My "gotta hear it song" was Black Cow and they nailed it. The trombone by Jim Pugh was perfect. The smooth rise and fall of the horn melted the crowd. The first set was hit after hit. All great classic stuff. Fagan was a master as he interacted with the crowd: "Now we're gonna reach back into the deep 70's..." and the crowd would roar in anticipation. Perfect teasing foreplay for what was sure to be unbridaled passion.
Set two started out with the band (minus WB and DF) singing a song that I had not heard called "At the Steely Dan Show" verses satirically urging us to buy a program and/or a hat: "Promo stuff". That led into the band playing a new to me tune and kicking straight into Hey 19. Becker singing Haitian Divorce was classic. Keith Carlisle hit a goosebumbing drum solo during Josie that brought the crowd to their feet and kept them there.
Finally the crowd would not let them get away without an encore. They kept us hanging just long enough (true pros), then hit My Old School and FM hard.
Having declared Steely Dan as my favorite band in March of 2003, a position that remained vacant since my early years with Peter, Paul, and Mary; I was assured that my adoration was well placed. My budding fan of a girlfriend (who bought the tickets for me: Thanks so much!) offered the best review. "I wished I had a CD so that I could listen to them so more." Well, don't worry about that honey: I have plenty you can borrow.
Posted by: GEPAM, PennsylvaniaHersheypark Happy!!! Great concert last nite, 8/20. setlist was standard fare for this tour. Expected to enjoy 1st set more than 2nd because it contained more of my favorite tunes. Wrong. Starting with "Home At Last", (last song of 1st set) the gang found it's groove. "Hey 19", that little pop song, was way more enjoyable than expected. "Haitian Divorce" was right on with the music, but would have liked to hear Donald's voice. TIMTM was absolutley incredible. Herrington allowed to show his stuff with the last few songs before the Encore. A small distraction however, was the Bobbsie Twins seated directly in front of us, who talked thru several entire songs! Signifigant other says next time we need seats front & center where the Real Dan Fans are seated. All in all, a terrific show and would go again in a heartbeat.
Posted by: D,
Posted by: woodman, OttawaHere's a thought: Do you think the set list will change for the 2nd leg? I am one of those unfortunate who got caught in the chasm of the Black Cow last week in Toronto, but will be going to the re-re-scheduled show.
Posted by: Craig A Cardinal, philadelphia areai was wondering if there are any set lists available so i can compare them to the show i'm going to see on saturday
Posted by: Eric, After reading comments here...I CANNOT WAIT UNTIL THE ATLANTA SHOW!! Man, if they'd only do Bad Sneakers.
Posted by: Milton, No posts from Hershey yet? Well, let me be the first to say that this was the best sound I have ever heard at any show... EVER! It was so crisp and clear it was eery. THIS is what it's supposed to sound like! What a great fucking band! What a night!!!!!
Posted by: Gretchen, working, in deep distressRichard-
I will give you a full report of next Monday's show at Mohegan! Can't wait......
Posted by: Richard, Bristol UkI am here in rainy UK so jealous of our US friends soaking up the SD sunshine. Oh how I wish I could see and hear this SD with Carlock and co doing their thing. Can't make it over because of work - love hearing about it tho'
Cheers
Richard
Posted by: Rose Darling, SeattleOops! I mean "Jones" Beach; it would be very cool for you guys!
Posted by: Rose Darling, SeattleMike:
They did "Blues Beach" at the Portland show; hopefully they'll add it.
Love the nod to Laura Nyro.
Hey everyone!
Still considering Las Vegas, me Mum lives there so it'd be a cheap trip (although I'd love to stay at Mandelay Bay - what a gorgeous hotel). Who else is going?? Hoops?
Posted by: Jason, at a deskI think the issue with the caps is not the cap or the empty bottle itself. The issue is that a bottle filled liquid (esp. something other than water) that can be sealed and then hurled from a distance can do some damage if it strikes something or someone.
For those effected by the circumstances at the Toronto show it was worth noting that at the end of FM in New Hampshire Donald said along with his usual farewells, "It's real nice you have electricity here too. That helps".
Posted by: Mike, Jones Beach
It's rainin'
I'm chillin' at the Manatee Bar
Well it's a stone soul picnic
For the early resigned
I hope we hear this song tomorrow. :-)
Posted by: Rindy, Sweltering NYC; wish I was at Blues BeachThe no-cap drink policy is taking hold at arenas & stadiums all over
They claim it's so you won't throw the cap on the field or at the stage & potentially injure someone
I think it's more like they want you to spill your drink or have your beer get warmer faster so you will buy more at their usurious prices
-Rindy
Posted by: lp, @workmib - they were really uptight in the front row - as if we would crash the stage - didn't know about the no cap thing, that is funny
but at the same time, at intermission i had to carefully avoid a fight that was beginning in the beer line - they should get more uptight about that stuff!
the sound isn't great there, you are right - but it didn't seem to matter too much
if i was queen for a day, i'd make them play berklee, to get that really good sound quality performance - symphony hall wouldn't be bad either
thanks for the email - like i said, i think you walked right past us in manchester - that's cool
Posted by: Grippa48, NJGretchen,
SACD stands for Super Audio CD you need a special CD player to get the full sound quality of the sound.
There are 2 formats.....be carefull. There is DVD Audio and SACD both are not compatible with each other.
Gary
Posted by: Eric, I'm going to the Sept. 19 show in Atlanta. Must admit that I'm sort of disappointed they aren't playing more songs from EMG.
Anyone know how long the show is runnning? They don't seem to be playing too many songs. Springsteen plays three-hour shows regularly, and the Dan has as much and more material to pull from.
Posted by: Gretchen, The foot of Mt. BelzoniHoops, or anyone
I am confused as to the DVD audio format. Are there visuals for the length of the music? Can they be played on any DVD player? And what is the SACD? I've looked on Amazon and a few others, but can't seem to find DVD Audio. I'm techno-challenged, so any info would help. If EMG is available in DVD format, are they selling them at the shows? Thanks.
Posted by: Bill/Pittsburgh, I'm a bookkeeper's son ...On my way to the dentist yesterday I ran into a roadblock and had to turn back. When I arrived, my dentist said that he had heard there were SWAT teams out in the area. Here's what the disturbance was:
http://www.post-gazette.com/neigh_north/20030821pinepolicenorth3p3.asp
Cue "Don't Take Me Alive"
Posted by: Boston Rag, lp - check your e-mail, I sent you an invite to a link for some pix from the Mansfield and Manchester shows. Sorry I missed you twice.
I would like the Verizon Center for hockey but for concerts it needs some acoustic work. And the event staff rivals the Soup Nazi. My daughter had a roll of Sweet-tarts (remember them?) confiscated and they told her to throw them in the trash on the way in. And how about the stupid policy of not being allowed to have a cap on the bottled water you buy at the concessions. I asked for the cap they remove and they said 'no caps' was their policy. What's up with that?
Mark in Boston
Posted by: hoops, More confirmation that Universal is coming over to the DVD-A camp; Maybe we will see DVD-A of "Gaucho." SACD / CD-A hybrid of "Gaucho" is slated for this Tuesday in the USA last I read in a few places, although not sd.com.
From Billboard: Universal Preps First DVD-Audio Releases
Universal Music Group (UMG) will unveil its first titles in the DVD-Audio format Sept. 23, with a diverse helping of 24 albums. The label group will become the fourth major label group to utilize the format, after Warner Music Group, EMI and Bertelsmann Music Group.
Among the UMG albums to debut in the format are Aaron Neville's "Nature Boy: The Standards Album," Beck's "Sea Change," David Sanborn's "timeagain," Peter Frampton's "Frampton Comes Alive!," Elton John's "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road," George Strait's "Honkytonkville," Marvin Gaye's "Collection," Shania Twain's "Up!," Sting's "Brand New Day" and the Who's "Tommy."
The rest is at http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1948166
Posted by: lp, @workhey mark in boston - you were in manchester too?
sorry i missed seeing you once again
still reelin from that show and i had forgotten the ladies were singing sock it to me - that really was stupendous!
Posted by: Lady Bayside, NYJones Beach tomorrow~so much to do...including..
sell a ticket. Darnit, I have one of my six ticket block left since I got the telephone call yesterday. These darn Dan virgins..would have been her first show, and she's bailing because her son is leaving for college. Geez.
Anyway...it's Section 13L, row N...$85 plus the ticketbastard fee.
Let me know..
LadyB
Posted by: RCray, NYCHow is EMG doing on the charts?
Are they GOLD yet?
Posted by: kerry pittenger, jerseyI have 2 PIT seats for the Aug. 23 show at the Camden Tweeter Center but I can't go. They are for sale. Please........someone buy these and enjoy it. I'm sick that I.
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Waiting for an upgrade...Here's a random thought...What if they played the current set list in a slightly reversed-order?
SET I
CUBANO CHANT (Still a great little intro, so leave it up top)
FM (Immediate crowd pleaser and one to get the casual late-comers rushing to their seats)
MY OLD SCHOOL (No worries now about "no dancing" until late in the show as the crowd is now on their feet and moving)
DTMA (The Herington intro stops ANYONE from sitting down and the party-time continues)
KID C (Need I say more?)
JOSIE (The casuals have heard almost everthing they came for and soon must/will go!)
PARKER'S BAND (The casuals in the good seats will now start to look around at each other wondering what the hell is playing)
TIMTM (This is our chance to start scoping prime seats that will soon be available, as many are now being vacated)
HAITIAN DIVORCE (No beer break on this song as the show is virtually over for the casuals and they begin to file out)
THE STEELY DAN SHOW (The perfect song to merchandise tour swag on the way to the beverage tents)
SET II
As we all settle into our new front row seats, we hear...
The Jailbait Medley...
JANIE RUNAWAY (Confirmation for those on their way to the car that they "beat the traffic")
HEY 19 (Confusion now for those same traffic beaters..."Hey, we know that song, don't we Honey?")
BAND INTROS (WB could groove the intros just as easily here, because when the intros are done as part of Slang, we have no real chance to acknowledge Walter)
HOME AT LAST (Finally, we are...)
PEG (Love it live or not, it's almost always part of the show)
SLANG OF AGES (Walter gets the kudos he deserves from the crowd)
BABYLON SISTERS (Shake it!)
BLACK COW (Always nice to hear, but a tough sub for any tune from EMG)
CAVES (This has belonged near the end of the show since Night I)
GODWHACKER (What a set closer this could be!)
ENCORES (A flip of the two openers for the real SET I)
AJA (An emotional encore for many of us, perhaps)
TOOM (This would make for a tremendous closer and the outro would allow D and W plently of time to bail, ala FM)
Or perhaps I have just had too much time between shows to think about things like this...SOH
Posted by: Laina, eyes falling out of head from staring at computer screenOh yes, that reminds me. I was in the Campus Market at my university and as I was stirring sugar into my coffee, "My Old School" came on! I stayed for as long as I could, but I had an Econ final to take, sooooo.....
Twas' nice to hear some random Dan.
Laina
Posted by: Boston Rag, Manchester ShowBig Fan - They started 15 minutes late, not early. The ticket said 7:30 start time but about 4,000 people seemed to have thought it was 8:00pm. Also, the Mohegan Show is Monday, not Tuesday - don't be 24 hours late. Yikes!
For the first set my daughters and I were about 22 rows back in the center. I thought the sound was very muddy. It seemed to improve with the set closer "Home At Last". My daughters digged every minute of it and enjoyed the set projections too.
We heard rows 7 and 8 had many empty seats for the first set so at the break we moved up to 8th row center. My 8 year old was right on line with Fagen's Rhodes and the seat in front of her was empty. I swear Donald was watching her during the second set! I told her to wave at him and he nodded his head at her. She was jazzed!
The sound was much better closer up. Perhaps we were picking up the band's mix.
As Big Fan mentioned earlier Donald is back to singing 'Aretha Franklin' during Hey 19. At the same time, Zellie, Flex and Callie sing 'sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me'. A nice touch.
Mark in Boston
Posted by: steelydoubt, a few minutes ago wilst watching "i love the 70's" on vh1 i heard a little of Bodhisattva during the lts or dsl or lsd or whatever thing. someone else will have to watch it.
Posted by: Paul Bunyan, BostonApologies if I ruffled anyone's feathers... My main beef was that I was sick & tired of hearing people pick apart each show as if it was some sort of test. I pay my way to A LOT of shows thoughout the year, and in terms of performance quality, this is one of the best things going. It's live entertainment, we should all sit back (or stand) and enjoy it... I sure as hell did.
Posted by: Laina, free til tuesday's final"Davis, just an added thought:
Pondering bootlegging is far more reprehensible than so called flubbing lines"
*sigh* I just don't see why the *discussion* of live shows on CD (or bootlegs as ya'll like to call them) is so very verboten on here. Perhaps my perspective is biased because I listen to a few other artists who do allow taping and free trading of their live shows (Jack Johnson, John Mayer, Ben Harper [on occasion]). I am quite used to being on a board, asking about the availability of a recent show and not having people clam up about it or wag a finger. AiA is great...I just wish there were more live shows available.
Have D&W expressed a disapproval for or a statement against tapers? Can someone please direct me to that statement?
**I am not a taper, nor do I own taping equipment. I DO, however, enjoy the sound of live music.**
Lainalove
Posted by: seth2112, you all need to get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!
we are talking about music, only music
lyrics, sound, fests, seat locations
i challange anyone who actually bought aja in 78 or gaucho in 80 for $9.99,,,,,,,,those who get this r in the loop
its a concert.........entertainment
lyrics, davis, i suggest medicine
i saw them, its fun, great fun in 93, 96, 00 and 03
its all good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
emg is not 2vn or g or a
enjoy
have fun
they are not going to play wu, gold teeth etc
if u heard boson rag, dirty work, etc its been done
its cool, its done'enjoy parkers and dont take me alive
it is the shit
if u care, check out andy metzger and listen to the second arrangement
Posted by: Gretchen, DAVIS-I hope someone puts Sea Monkeys in your beer. That's all I have to say to you, end of story.
Posted by: luckless pedestrian, on islandhey big fan - i won't cut and paste my thoughts from the sign in stranger page, but i was at verizon too - i scored front row center - it was unbelievable!
i was also at tweeter and also took our kid, she was mesmerized!
have fun at your third - lucky dog!
Posted by: Honeybun, Soon to be zooming on a couch somewhere!Hey guys, I've been up for 23 hours solid and it's 3.15am my time (UK).......I think I'm gonna pass out........The'Dan rules!
Night, Honeybun
Posted by: hoops, chicago
From Dandom Digest: hoops@dandom.com
Subject: Real Life "Green Book"
If you thought the "Green Book" was set in the future, check again. An article on page 7 of this past Sunday's "New York Times" has an article all about interactive porn that sounds a helluvalot like what, in my interpretation, is going on in Steely Dan's "Green Book."
If you have thrown out Sunday's paper already, you can also check: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/17/movies/17KENN.html
Here's an excerpt:
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"When you're watching a regular porn movie, you're watching it in the third person," Joone said by telephone. "You're basically a voyeur. This way it's a first-person experience. If the girl is in the missionary position, the camera is looking down at her as you would be if you were actually there with her. You're the god of your world at that moment."
In "Virtual Sex With Devon," the DVD starts with a brief introduction: "I'm Devon. Are you ready to play with me?" At that point Devon's head bobs robotically back into place and the same greeting is repeated until the viewer chooses from four features offered on the on-screen menu: "Strip," "Stories," "Foreplay" and "Sex."
If the viewer chooses the "Foreplay" or "Sex" option, he can choose one of four sexual positions and even Devon's "demeanor" — like "innocent" or "nasty" (when she "talks dirty and gets dominant"). There are also little icons on screen in the shape of tongues, vibrators and fingers to choose from to further direct the action.
"You choose the sexual positions!" screams the box text for the "Virtual Sex" series. "You choose the camera angles! You can choose her moods between innocent and nasty! You ask her to strip naked for you! You control this gorgeous sexual animal and enjoy her countless times!"
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See what I mean?
hoops
Posted by: Set list Mssr, Hey George, one show is never enough even if it is the same set list. Scroll Down and you will see the setlists.
Posted by: Joey , " I'm flying back to L.A. this morning and I'm comin home with a buttload of whopassz for anyone who continues to rationalize this shabby execution. Get ready you sick fruity bee-aacthes"
Rajah , I would like to clutch you to my bosom , softly and gently stroke your young , moist , sweaty , glistening , GLISTENING little Rajah forehead and just say , " Thanks " , for being ...............Well ????? ................You !
Tonight's shot of BarenJager is for you .
Joeskee !
Posted by: George , Harford County MDI was just wondering is Steely playing the same set every night? Basically I would love to see a set list or set lists of what they have been playing. I cant wait to see them, and Iam trying to talk a friend into seeing them more than once, of course I could see them night by night same set or not!! Can someone please let me now something, thanks a lot.
Posted by: hoops, chicagoHey cowboys & cowgirls, glad you're debating how you feel about missed lyrics and spontaneity at shows, but turn down the intensity a bit, huh? It's like you are tryin' to blow my SD tour high, not to mention it doesn't make it fun to run a place like this. Second warning.
Getting ready for Jones Beach on Friday. One of my favorite places, provided it doesn't rain. Just completely beautiful. As I was headed from the Saturday to Sunday night SD show will Bill Griffin and his sister, I was reminded how gorgeous the ocean and all the ships are all in that area. That, along with the show, got me all excited for this Friday. In 2000, I drove straight through to Jones Beach from Chicago and then when I got there, Lady Bayside surprised me with a birthday cake. What a great time. Can't wait again. Rain, rain, go away.
I've gotten more than a few Emails asking if I was going to go to Roseland and it it was worth it. HELL, YES!!! This will likely be the Danfest to end all Danfests, not that we want them to end. Heck, if I get hit by a bus, I want my wake at these shows. (Where did THAT bit of morbidity come from?) My only regret is that the Marquee canopy in front of Roseland is gone. Of course, Roseland almost fell victim to the wrecking ball a few years ago, so I guess it's lucky that it's there at all.
Speaking of Danfests to end all Danfests, Boston was right up there as well. Still have this spring in my step and throbbing in my heart from that show and Danfest.
And I'm not sure about the acoustics, but that I had never been to Garden State Performing Arts Center before and at least visually dug that incredible concrete dome. Sorry some people got rained on though. What's with the School buses? Thanks Toni, YGK and Lady B. and everyone else.
Thanks for the review of Verizon, Big Fan. Sounds like that Danfest will get a Danny for "Most Underage Drinkers at a Danfest." Did DF dedicate the jailbait medley to them?
The students are all back and it reminded me that when they left, "The Last Mall" and "Blues Beach" was just put out on the net. Like Big Fan, I'm wishin' they might add them back. At the same time, those two songs are almost like anomalies to the rest of the album. Has it been that long already?
Speaking of great Danfests, the Countdown to Ecstasy Danfest group has gone wild since the last SD show at Merriwether. They even had a Danfest last Saturday. Now I can't make weeknight shows since classes are in session. But do go and nmake it, you won't regret it.
Enough for now, and give the missed line thing a rest. Every tour, I always wonder if there will be another.
jim
Posted by: fezo, Black Diamond BayI'm worried about Bob Dylan. I think he's getting senile or just doesn't care anymore. I was watching a concert video--Don't Look Back--of his over the weekend and I noticed at least three vocal deliveries that didn't match the original studio recording. What nerve.
Carolyn's brother is indeed getting married. His engagement announcement was in the New York Observer's rather unique pre-nuptials section early (much) in the year.
A week until Nissan. Can hardly wait. Wonder if our heroes will throw "Fall of '92" onto the setlist in honor of the locale. Or maybe "Book of Liars" would be more appropriate.
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, Rome, ItalyDAVIS - You are right on my friend, Donald has no business flubbing lyrics a month into the tour. No excuse for it - none at all, I don't give a f**k what he's going through. I'm flying back to L.A. this morning and I'm comin home with a buttload of whopassz for anyone who continues to rationalize this shabby execution. Get ready you sick fruity bee-aacthes, I will not stand for it. Ciao and peace.
Posted by: Big Fan, Home at lastStill recovering from the NH show last night –
Wonderful new venue – Verizion Wireless Arena – clean. Very laid back. Small crowd – about 5000, over half empty.
Nice picture on the front page of the paper.
http://www.theunionleader.com/
Nice day for a drive to and from NH. Manchester is a great little city – very clean.
What an improvement over the Tweeter Center. Seats were cushioned; my butt doesn’t feel like a washboard. AC was nice inside – bad was more relaxed. Sound system infinitely better. Bigger stage so the band could spread out. I could get used to these indoor venues. My first to see SD since 93 at the Hartford Civic Center.
My son’s first concert – he had a great time!!!
Danfest was a smashing success. At least 200 people.
After concert Danfest was even better – Jane you can smoke out the places!!!! She even found the only bar in the US where the drinking age is still 15.
Chorus wore the same outfits as Tweeter – same red tops, black slacks, wore jackets this time indoors.
Setlist the same as Tweeter – bummer was hoping for Last Mall or Blues Beach to be added back in.
Started 15 minutes early – a word of warning, don’t be late to your seats in the future or you’ll miss some of the concert.
No keychains for sale.
Intros were a little longer – Walter mentioned his son went to school just up the road – I assumed college. Michael L. is soon to be married????
Do did not allow the crowd to sing Hey 19 – perhaps afraid that the NH crowd was not as worldly as the Tweeter crowd. He has gone back to the original Aretha Franklin reference – I always liked Otis Reading as a change up.
See you all next Tuesday at Mohegan Sun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: davis, BostonI make one remark about missed lyrics,(which everyone has been pointing out) next thing you know My name is Saddamm Hussein. I think its you guys who need to chill out and get a life. And Gretchen my dear who are you to criticize me??? you want to fire the first shot be prepared for retaliation next time or zip your lip.
Hey Babylon check your grammar next time genious.
"Also get you spelling right before you want to show "
Posted by: les, new yorkhas anyone else noticed the RITZ CRACKER reference during "hey nineteen" ...."c'mon girls, what was the name of that tequila"
used it three years ago on y2k tour, wasn't all that funny then, and is frightening to hear the greatest contemporary lyricicst use it AGAIN, as if nothing else would work there...
well, i should know ny now, that its just a spasm
like a tj orgasm
that its cheap but its not free
see ya at jones
Posted by: hoops, Hey some of you need to remember the best advice for here or other forums: someone giving you a hard time? Ignore them, don't give'em energy. Nothing wrong with being really into the topic, but there comes a superfine line.
Misunderstood lyric? Very common one more than a few people have told me and I'm with them:
"All those Deigo freaks who used to pay the fez."
hoops
Posted by: Hooper, NHWell, one certainly can't fault Steely Dan for not inciting one's emotions can we. Signs of true fans. The fact is that everyone's experience will be different - and that's OK. Let's just remember that that is OK.
"Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya!!"
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynIt is dismaying to learn there are people who don't know the differences between live performance and a controlled studio environment. You might as well say a guitarist blew a solo because he didn't copy it from the album.
Posted by: Babylon Brother, by the bayDavis, next time attend a literature class. Also get you spelling right before you want to show us how good your English is . Or get a life , it might help too . What a joke ...
Posted by: Gretchen, My, Davis, can't you take a little critisism without lashing back with vulgarity? I'd hate to be that 6 foot brunette. My condolences to her, and why don't you go on over to the Eminem message board? You'd probably be a perfect fit there.
Posted by: Gretchen, My, Davis, can't you take a little critisism without lashing back with vulgarity? I'd hate to be that 6 foot brunette. My condolences to her, and why don't you go on over to the Eminem message board? You'd probably be a perfect fit there.
Posted by: akakii, Chinese music always set me free
Even the banjos sound good to me
Posted by: YGK, NYCOK, folks, it's the Top Ten Flubbed Lines/Miseheard Lines/Quotes in a Steely Dan Show - Lyrics or otherwise. (the accuracy of which is merely up to the listener - embellished beyond belief)
10. Is there Gas in the Car? Shall we crash in Del Mar?
9. Lady's and Gentlemen, my partner: Balter Wecker!
8. You're a Great Fucking Audience!
7. Now I'm holding Down Below.
6. It's like a stupid farter
5. If you grew up in Hackensack, I'm the Duke of Url
4. It's too much of nothin - that steak attitude
3. Your Quote here
2. Your Quote here
1. Your Quote here
ygk
Posted by: Connie, In a vineyardMaybe Donald should have wrote instead
"I cried when I wrote this song,
Sue me if I play it wrong."
Posted by: Joey, " Are YOU perfect in all that you do, all the time? I'm certainly not, and my guess is that you're not, either. So lighten up, this is supposed to be entertaining. "
Why so irritable today Princess ???? All we do is love here .
Now , smoke some Chiba and Come to Joey .............................
Joeykins
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynYou tell em there Gretch.
Posted by: hoops, Children! Calm down and drink some Tang®, with 100% of your daily requirement of Vitamin C in every serving. Head to a Danfest and you'll realize everyone who posts here is a real person. Think about that, hey?
Let's face it, to get every lyric is devine but every Steely Dan show is, well, fucking awesome—even if a few words are flubbed. I can tell by this thread we're all getting used to the idea of Steely Dan performing live every few years.
As far as more live recordings, I have to say I did "Alive In America" (especially for "Bopok of Liars" the 90s version of "Reelin'"), but I also wish it were two CDs and didn't read like it was excerpted. Intros and small measures of stage comments would allow me more to close my eyes and be there. AiA was a touch overly sanitized and primped. But, hey, it's an awesome album, nevertheless.
Do I think they will do another live one? Only their hairdressers know for sure. I wish they would but two discs that give the full sequence of a show. And one up the bootleggers by making a DVD-A of it available.
Random Factoid: the album was produced by Donald Fagen and not Becker and Fagen.
Posted by: Jason, BostonHow about we listen to a bootleg of last night's show and let some those that care check the vocals for accuracy.
Group hug everyone!
Posted by: akakii, Well, I'm going to wade in here on Davis's side of the firing line for a moment... I heard several lyrical lapses in the course of the concert. No, I couldn't tell you which songs they were because it didn't particularly matter to me. If anything it makes me chuckle a bit. Just because Don has sung these songs a gazillion times doesn't mean they come out the same every time. They're in the middle of touring -- I'm sure they're tired and probably have a hard time remembering what town they're in. To some extent I'll bet they're operating on auto-pilot. Who knows what each of them is thinking when they're up on stage? Don was probably checking out someone in the front row or thinking about Cuervo Gold or how good it was gonna feel to crawl into bed that night. If missing a word or repeating a lyric is the worst thing they did last night then I'd say it was a pretty damn good show. And if the issue of whether Don mis-sung a word or two is that important to any of us...well, that's pretty damned funny too.
Posted by: Paul Bunyan, BostonDavis, Davis, Davis... is that any way to talk to a lady? Anyways, I stand by my assessment that his voice sounds strong and he's bending notes all over the place. If you want to hear a performer sing every syllable note for note... go see Britney Spear lypsynch to her latest cd.
Green Hawaiian shirt? Don't recall, but I hope you weren't the guy pulling my shirt to sit down during the encore.
Posted by: Davis, BostonGretchen, Respectfully take a Cuban Breeze and stick it where the sun dont shine.
I am sure you would never listen to a bootleg of a live show.
Posted by: Gretchen, DAVIS-
You know, pondering a bootleg is far more reprehensible than the so called flubbing of lines..................
Posted by: Gretchen, Davis, just an added thought:
Pondering bootlegging is far more reprehensible than so called flubbing lines.
Posted by: Gretchen, You're the master of the lyrics? Who awarded you that coveted position? Don/Walt wrote them-they are the masters of the lyrics! Don's not up there to be judged on the accuracy of the lyrical content-he is (along with Walt, the orchestra, and the girls) performing original masterpieces. Are YOU perfect in all that you do, all the time? I'm certainly not, and my guess is that you're not, either. So lighten up, this is supposed to be entertaining.
Posted by: davis, BostonDamn what a beating I am taking for mentioning Dons mess ups. All I can tell you is I counted 5 times, sorry folks, I am a master of the lyrics and always pay attention to that stuff, any way enough with this. Its over..
Now then Paul, I had on a Green and White like Hiwaiian shirt and was with a 6 foot Brunette right behind you.I was in the corner talking to John Herrington just before the 2nd set began..
Posted by: Gretchen, home, for onceC'mon, Davis. Give Don a break. The beauty of a live show is seeing it live, without editing, seeing the performers as real people. Spontineity is the key. Don's not a machine, if he missed a line or two it was probably due to the fact that he's a perfectionist and that alone can make you so nervous you're sure to blank out. If I want a perfect studio rendition I'll listen to Royal Scam with headphones. I suggest you try the same.
Posted by: Paul Bunyan, BostonDavis, I must have been sitting right in front of you AA seat 15 or 16? Anyways, I'm calling your flubs. Where did they happen? Maybe I'm missing something?? I had read the shaky reviews earlier so I went into this show (2nd for me this tour) looking for errors, and just didn’t hear any. (Aside from that one moment of jarring feedback early on).
After a few songs I stopped analyzing and just enjoyed the band (which played each and every song flawlessly). I will agree that Donald’s energy level was low to start, but the audience was not helping at all in that respect. He’s nailing all the tough sections and sounds great IMHO.
Posted by: Joey ,
" Do you think there will ever be a "legal way" to obtain a recording of any live show they perform. I crave being able to pop a CD into my car and cruise around to live Steely Dan. "
Amen to THAT my Brother . Hug Me .
Joey !
Posted by: davis, BostonHOOPS.
Do you think there will ever be a "legal way" to obtain a recording of any live show they perform. I crave being able to pop a CD into my car and cruise around to live Steely Dan.
Posted by: davis, BostonI was right in back of you Paul Row BB Seat 14,,, Anyway, trust me I sang every word to every song, he was flubbing like crazy, infact I think they had to wake him up from his nap before the show.
You know I Saw them in NJ, Great Woods, Last night, and pondering Mohegan Sun,, I never thought I would say this, but I could be All Stelly Daned OUT!!!
Posted by: Joey , " Just a reminder that offering or soliciting bootlegs is prohibited here. Have a nice day. "
Whoops ..........Sorry Hoopsie .
Bad Joey !
Posted by: hoops, Just a reminder that offering or soliciting bootlegs is prohibited here. Have a nice day.
h
Posted by: Joey , " What was up with the sound in Manchester? "
.............or Denver .............or St. Paul ..............or Chicago .............or ......................
Anyone got any Soundboard Boots yet ?????????
Developing ............................
Shiver ..................................
JACKY !
Posted by: Paul Bunyan, BostonSat in the front row in Manchester last night... Band was great, crowd was painfully mellow compared to the raucous Great Woods over the weekend. Not sure what people are talking about with Donald flubbing lyrics... I was 10 feet away and I maybe saw him pause to catch his breath once... Other than that I thought he was flawless, what am I missing? Loved seeing Becker sing up close, pantomimes and all.
Tough to pick highlights, probably Godwhacker & Hatian Divorce which is completely different from what I thought while leaving on Saturday.
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynDavis, respectfully, I know how it sounds when he flubs a line. Unless it throws the band off who cares? The musicians listen tot he sounds, not the meanings of the words. Not to mention that about 80% of their songs no longe mean what they meant in the 70s. These songs used to be dark warnings, now they're all just feel good party songs.
Posted by: davis, bostonPeter Q, you dont get it,, Its so obvious when he misses it , and he starts "moaning" to hide the mistake, IT DOES Detract from the song and the momentum, especailly when he says a line in error on the first verse, then has to repeat it in the second..
Sound wasnt that bad in Manchester, then again I was 2nd row..
Posted by: Red, What was up with the sound in Manchester? Couldn't figure out if it was a mic or a mix problem or just the Arena. My husband even stuffed one of his ears with toilet paper to stop the sound that was reverberating from the back. There seemed to be a slight improvemnt just before the intermisssion. Despite that, the set list was great, the drum solo superb and I even enjoyed Walter's singing. Nice to have the boys back on the road again. Thinking of heading down to Mohegan to catch them again, hoping their sound crew can address any problems there quickly.
Posted by: Hooper, NHYep. Sound wasn't great at the Verizon arena. I expected as much. Would have been better to see Dan at the Capital Theatre in Concord - much less cash for the band so not possible. Band was tight though. Great show. Crowd did take a while to warm up. I wonder if people just like to sit and listen to the music? I found myself doing that to start as well.
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynI must say I am flabbergasted at how many times I read a post like "Donald messed up a lyric." As if in a live performance the content of the lyrics is more important than just hearing his voice as another instrument???? IMHO lyrics are important on the album, when you're listening at home, not in a live show.
Posted by: DAVIS, BostonI sat 2nd row last night, and was amazed how good the sound was. Definatly not like Great Woods Sat, but then again, it was a Tuesday night in MAnchester NH. A few observations.
Herrington was out of his mind last night, just incredible, even got to talk with him inbetween sets. Kid Charlmaine, Dont Take me Alive Solos were straight off the alubum, just incredible. Also , Walt W on the Sax was tighter than Great Woods.. It must get so boring for these guys to play the same sets every night, I was stunned to watch them really get into each song, they must really love what they do.(Ted Baker needs to shed about 30 lbs)
Now then, Good old Donald was in quite a funk, he blew at least 5 lines in 5 different songs. Walter did look annoyed..Again, it has to be brutal doing the same repetitive stuff, howver, every night is a new set of fans, and fresh $$$$$ for thier pockets, they should give the best every night.. Anyway, still an awesome show, and it helps to have a hot girl with you share it with..
See you at Mohegan
Posted by: Jason, BostonJust having coffee the morning after Manchester. I can't say I had the same sound problems that others report last night, however we were quite close to the stage. What was a problem was the 7:30 start time mixed in with all of the other 8 o'clock starts. That messed us up and we missed the first few songs. Ughhhh! Still kicking myself and probably will be until the next show, which for me is Roseland.
The band sounded tight last night, as usual, however I would say that the "energy" level was not as high as Great Woods. That could be because the Great Woods shows always seem to be one of the best stops of the tours but that could be just me. Apologies to all the Boston folks on the list for missing what sounded like a great Dan Fest. We got to Devon's Place about 15 minutes after the party ended. I'm seeing a trend here. It's seems my groovetime watch is a little slow. Can't wait for Roseland, and post show Bernard!!!
Posted by: Meal Reviewer, CaliEn mi countri we have Mickey Rourke, chia pet, Victori underwear (bloomers), muchisimas cosas pero no STEE DAN. Un hombre que se llama "Maricon Joe" oye una cancion "cover" por Herbie Mann, "Go back, Jack, hace lo otra vez" - wow! Peepil go loco like monkeyshit -dancin in the church, fires in the beech, pizza stuck on the walls. "Maricon Joe" hace un mil booty booty tapes de STEE DAN porque gobierno say peepil no allow haff this musica. ONly musica presidente say is OK es "Captain & Tenille":
Love, love will keep us together
Think of me babe whenever
Mi pops ayuda a "Maricon Joe" givin the music put you with God to all peepil pero gobierno es muy fuerte y die "Maricon" y poppi tambien. Triste! Mi moms say we go to America en tuna boat smuggle smuggle so we preach el mesaje de RON FAGEN! Then she drown in waters of furious oceano. Triste! Mi wef, Barna, crack her woman chest in the hard water and the tuna in the boat stink you so bad you die!
Posted by: akakii, The band was tight last night in Manchester, but the sound was atrocious. I was afraid that after the Great Woods show this one could be a bit of a letdown. And what was up with the crowd? It might be just me (and I'm sure you'll let me know if it is) but the audience didn't seem to get into it until about 3/4 of the way through. By the end the place was rocking...it just took awhile to get there.
Posted by: Paul Bunyan, Boston
Posted by: akakii, The band was tight last night in Manchester, but the sound was atrocious. I was afraid that after the Great Woods show this one could be a bit of a letdown. And what was up with the crowd? It might be just me (and I'm sure you'll let me know if it is) but the audience didn't seem to get into it until about 3/4 of the way through. By the end the place was rocking...it just took awhile to get there.
Posted by: Don, New Zealand
All you guys that come into contact with my Aussie Cuzzies be sure to post their exploits here.
I gotta know what they are up to.
Don
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Still...Forgot to drop a post last night regarding our two mates who have winged it over here from Australia for 5 Steely Dan shows on the East Coast and a true taste of Americana along the way...I drove up to LA from San Diego on Sunday to greet Scotty and Alan (Fanofdan in the Greenroom)...The boys were nearly beside themselves with anticipation of what was ahead for them (neither has ever seen Steely Dan)...Alan was somewhat spent as he caught virtually zero sleep on the 15-hour flight (his very first plane-ride EVER) on top of his having had major surgery nary a fort-night ago!...Quite a trooper, this larrikin...Scotty was more well-rested (better meds, perhaps?)...Much talk about Steely Dan and things American (tipping, attire, CHEESEBURGERS!)over several Sierra Nevada Pale Ales...This led into an evening in North Hollywood at The Baked Potato to see The Prezel Logic Band, featuring our own SteveeDan on keys (excellent!)...A great show...Thank you, Steve...You made the boys first night here one to remember...A cab ride home that included a lost cell phone, a lost digital camera and some authentic skanky Mexican beer led into a foray the next day to Venice Beach, the side-show of all side-shows...The boys were rendered somewhat speechless by what they were observing other than the frequent "What in the Christ is THAT all about?"...Yes indeed...Welcome to the USA...Don't want to over-post here, but the guys are headed to Las Vegas next then on to Jones Beach, Mohegan, Saratoga, Nissan, Syracuse and perhaps Atlantic City...DO find these mates at a show near you as they are quite anxious to meet everyone from the Blue and the Green...SOH
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, In A New York State Of MindGod Bless You, Pete Fogel!...SOH
Posted by: SDWeb, Re: toronto reschedule. The rescheduled date was Sept 9...then 6 hrs later changed to Sept 14.That's where it stands, and should now stay.
On another note, a NASTY new fast-moving worm broke out today -- forges "From" field.
See
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sobig.f@mm.html
or the details. And DO NOT open any attachments unless you are 100% sure what they are and where they came from. This one is pretty ugly
Posted by: Jesse, TorontoI called Ticketmaster, and they said that the date was indeed changed to the 14th, just a few hours ago. This is all so sketchy, I just hope it doesn't get cancelled. Anyway, as of this moment, the show will be on the 14th.
Posted by: Crawler, Just got back from Manch Vegas as us locals call it. The set was great, the band was tight, and the vibe was right - but the sound was just awful. Almost ruined the whole show for me. Shoulda gone to Great Woods...
Posted by: grippa48, NJJim (aka Hoops),
Thanks for the set info.
Grippa48
Posted by: hoops, Hi!
The setlist was the same as it has been for the past couple of weeks:
Cubana Chant
Aja
Time Out of Mind
Godwhacker
Caves
Black Cow
Babylon Sisters
Slangof Ages including intros
Peg
Home at Last
INTERMISSION
The Steely Dan Song
Janie Runaway/Hey 19
Haitian Divorce, Walter lead vox <---Hightlight of the past couple of shows for me
Things I Miss the Most
Parker’s Band with the girls on lead vocals
Josie including Keith Carlock's amazing drum solo
Kid Charlemagne
Don’t Take Me Alive
ENCORE
My Old School
FM
Posted by: Gary, NJDoes anyone have the set list for the PNC Bank concert in NJ sunday nite? If so tell me? Thanks
Posted by: Bob, TorontoTORONTO HELP NEEDED............
Ticketmaster.com says Sept 14th
SD.com says Sept 9th
Which is it????
Regards,
Still in the dark
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, Abruzzi, ItalyFreako-baby - Actually, Italian by way of Cleveland, Ohio and Los Angeles, California. And, si, me knows a meatball when I we seez and hears one. Ci sei tu, my brother, aldila.
Jayzee - Meali remains a fascinating mystery fer shur but, chiwawa, I would like to see a 8 x 10 of Barna swimming for that Florida shore, who wouldn't? And, "babe", well, that's kinda like "mate" for us brain-dead Italians, ya know, the chain wearing wife beater T cliche we all know and love. Pass the parmigiana.
Posted by: deacon blue, BRUSSELS, BELGIUMhello dear Gretchen,
just like you i would like to see the Dan perform The Goodbye Look alive too.
And what about Walk between the raindrops?
That would be a perfect song for the girls,isn't it?
Well i hope W & D will come to Europe
Posted by: Pete Fogel, just confirmedAttention all Shoppers!
Just added --- After the Saturday September 13 Roseland show
After the Saturday show at Le Bar Bat... party for the fans. Show your ticket stub or mention "Steely Dan" and receive reduced admission to see The Hudson River Rats featuring legendary Steely Dan drummer Bernard "Pretty" Purdie (Babylon Sisters, Kid Charlemagne, Home at Last, etc). You've heard him on the records, you've seen him on "The Making of Aja" DVD, now see the "Hit Maker" live. And he's not just sitting in... he's playing all night!
__________________________________________
ROSELAND Festivities!
Friday September 12
5:00pm - Pre Show gathering at the Novotel Hotel, 52nd St & Broadway (across the street from Roseland). The Novotel lobby bar is the best kept secret in NYC. Located on the 6th floor, the lobby bar has a huge outdoor terrace that wraps around the entire building with great views of Times Square and Roseland.... oh, and you're about 40 yards from the venue.
Post Show - Right after the show til 4:00am... Party for the Steely Dan band/crew and fans five blocks north of Roseland (5 min. walk) at Le Bar Bat with a special performance by Funk Filharmonik. This 14 piece funk/soul band is made up of Tower of Power alumni, including vocalists Tom Bowes and Brent Carter and all five horn players. We are expecting many special guests, including former Steely Dan session players.
Your Roseland ticket stub or just mentioning "Steely Dan" will get you discounted admission to the club ($10 instead or $15).
This should be a fun night, we're expecting a big crowd from all over the world...and the best part about it is that everything is within walking distance.
More details to be announced.
http://www.lebarbat.com
Saturday September 13 - Steely Dan session drummer Bernard "Pretty" Purdie will be playing with The Hudson River Rats at Le Bar Bat.
Posted by: Joey , " Kewl man, joey, I am on the same page with ya.
Excellent point: Lets all hope for that live disc or dvd from this tour. "
I would like to nuzzle you .
Posted by: Razor-boy, Kewl man, joey, I am on the same page with ya.
Excellent point: Lets all hope for that live disc or dvd from this tour.
Posted by: FREAKO, ST.LOUISListen, dont pay any attention to Radja, hes from Italy.. He may know how to make nice Spaghetti amd Meatballs, but that's about it for him..
Posted by: Joey , " I guess what I'm trying to say is, that in my opinion, smaller venues, like the M'Sun, are nice because not only is the sound quality better, but the seating is better too (closer). "
Razor .............I feel you .
I would kill to see the Dan at a much smaller venue like Roseland , but , alas , it is too
far away for your young Joey to travel . To witness this great band in such a small , intimate club venue ( The Stones played there too ) is truly a gift and I hope they record and/or film these Roseland Performances for DVD and a live disc .
As to why Donald and Walter are bypassing cities like St. Louis and Kansas City for the second tour in a row makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and has left me quite shaken to the core ( not to mention stirred to sadness ) . As a result , many individuals had to travel to Denver to see the " Dan " and Fiddler's 18,000 Seats were pretty much all filled up ...............................( some last minute give-away lawn seat vouchers helped ) .
So much to ponder ........................
So much lunch at P.F. Changs to digest .
Jacky !
Posted by: Gretchen, Meali-
But can they do a bossa nova version of that? Think Sergio Mendes and Brazil 66............
Posted by: Razor-boy, Joey, not quite sure what your trying to say here, man. If your saying that these venues have more seating capacity, than your probably right. But do you know if they were sold-out or not? and is bigger really better? The show I saw last sat. at the Tweeter was all of about 12,000 strong, and if you read any of the reviews here it was a phenomenal performance.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, that in my opinion, smaller venues, like the M'Sun, are nice because not only is the sound quality better, but the seating is better too (closer).
Posted by: Josie, This is my first post after lurking for quite awhile. I'm really happy that those of you who have seen the recent concerts have enjoyed them so much.
Unfortunately, the Dan are not performing in St. Louis or Kansas City...but I'm fortunate enough to be in Phoenix when they perform at the Dodge Theatre on Sept. 24th. This venue apparently seats 5,000 tops, so it should be really great to see them there. Hopefully there will be a Danfest for Phoenix announced when the date gets closer.
Have fun on the eastcoast Dan Fans!
J
Posted by: Meal Reviewer, CaliSICK FRUITY BITCHES STEELI DAN HOMAGE RAP!
All words and music by Cringemaker Lopez, Don Carlos Miguel de Sanchez Rodriguez y Maria, Meal Reviewer, and Barna de Meal Reviewer
I like Steeli Tan
and I be shoppin'
Up in the guts of LA
Far from Compton
You no like Wally Becker?
You a loser
Not a fez
not a midnite cruiser
Barna got a phobia
She wanna be a problem teen
Just like Janie Runaway or Pixeleen
ETC
TBC
Posted by: Joey, " Its true that it is a smaller venue than the boys have been playing so far, but not by very much. I've been told it still holds 10,000+ for concerts. "
You can bet your Sweet Ass that 10,000+ would not have cut it in Denver .............or Chicago ....................or Cleveland ................or ..............................
Any chance of a Kansas City Date next month ?????????
Developing ..........................................
Jacky !
Posted by: Laina, SLO lubbin'Hey Hank, I'm going to the Santa Barbara Bowl!! So psyched....
Laina
Posted by: Gretchen, BOSTON RAG-
Your girls will love it! What a good dad you are. I remember my mother taking me to see Count Basie back in the 70's-something I'll never forget. It got me into jazz at a very young age. Have a great time!
Posted by: HANK, Who's going to the California shows at The Coors Amphitheatre and The Santa Barbara Bowl?
FYI, I'm flying in from Chicago to see both shows.
Hank
Posted by: davis, bostonI saw that Razor, but I dont feel like sitting in nose bleed, escpecially after sitting second row tonight at Manchester..Tickets.com was much more user friednly though then tickemaster.
"I had a little birdie friend"
Posted by: hoops, chicagoMark!
It will be great and your daughters will love the show. It will be an unforgettable evening. Have a great time and,
EVERYONE, Just lay it all on Don and Walt. Just trip out on these hits, the groove that never quits At THE STEELY DAN SHOW! (steelydan,steelydan,steelydan,steelydan,....)
jim
Posted by: Jaydee, London EnglandRajah - It wasn't a serious accusation. Like you, I hugely enjoy the ongoing saga of the Sick Fruities. If they ever want to swim the Atlantic I'll fix them up with a few gigs, no prob. But I also appreciate your own particularly well-turned phrases, be they Meali-inspired or not.
And go easy with the 'babe' - Jaydee's just my initials, mate! (and Meali can't be a 'she' - what about the lovely Barna?).
Posted by: Daddy G, Sugar Shack In PA - NY State Fair DanfestAnyone catch any news of a Danfest at the NY State Fair in Syracuse where SD will be playing over Labor Day weekend on August 31st? We really need to have one ... at least a little one!
Posted by: Boston Rag, New Hampster BoundGetting ready to leave soon for the "Verizon Wireless Arena". Donald should have a good time ragging on that. It's my daughters Meagan and Laura's first concert ever (ages 12 and 8). I know, I'm setting the bar very high for them and it probabably won't ever get better than tonight for them. Sigh.
Jane, Al and Dan hope to see you up north and shoot the breeze. We didn't get a chance to talk on Saturday.
Mark in Boston
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, Abruzzi, ItalyJaydee - I can tell you that Meali is my hero and I'm just basically mimicking him/her, so no, it ain't me babe. I just find Meali so very funny and original. I admire that, unlike me, he/she never gets caught up in any of the one-upsmanship on these pages. Est da bomba, rave on Meali. So come back Freako come back, we NEVER hold a grudge on the Bluebook.
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, Abruzzi, ItalyDr.WU - Great to hear your comments as to Donald's voice. Go Donny.
Posted by: Razor-boy, Mass.Davis, there still seems to be plenty of tix available for Mohegan.
Just follow the link from SD.com touring page, and click on tix for any given venue. This particular one brings you to tickets.com ( mohegan is not a ticketmaster venue).
Posted by: Big Fan, just leaving work on way to NH showHolmdel report from Star Ledger:
http://www.nj.com/entertainment/ledger/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-1/1061270263219780.xml
Concert blackout article:
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1061244610275&call_pageid=968867495754&col=969483191630
Posted by: davis, BostonRazor Boy, any suggestions on how to get TIX for Mohegan??
Manchester tonight, YA BABY, Although looks like a shitty parking situation up there.
Posted by: Razor-boy, Mass.Gretchen et al,
Just some tid-bits on the mohegan sun arena. Its true that it is a smaller venue than the boys have been playing so far, but not by very much. I've been told it still holds 10,000+ for concerts. As you probably know it is a very new building built for the Conn. WNBA as well as arena football teams. So I am looking forward to nice amenities and hopefully good sound.
I will be making the 2+ hour drive from the Cape that day so if anyone hears of any goings on, lmk.
Thanks,.....Dave
Posted by: Doctor Wu, New JerseyPNC Bank report:
The show was balls out awesome, even though I got rained on. The band was super tight. The horns were fu%$ing sweet. Drums were good. Lead guitar was fantastic. Walt had his nice licks on the guitar, and sang pretty damn well.
Don still can hit the high notes, and he was SOLID. Despite no Doctor Wu, it was truly an experience that I will cherish forever. Setlist was basically the same as the other reports here. Really liked "The Steely Dan Show".
A lot of the band is from NJ originally, so Walt did a great job of introducing the group during "Slang." He also threw in "Hackensack" in place of "Netherlands". Sweet.
Even was satisfied with paying 35 bucks for a t-shirt, which is the one with the coffee cup on the front.
I have to figure out how to see these guys again before this tour is over. Will be in California in October, and am thinking about checking out one of the CA shows before they head to Hawaii.
Posted by: fife, ottawaseptember ninth it is then. I'm there, i'm willing, and i'll buy the t-shirt lol, whew thank god for that i was getting worried.
Posted by: hoops, chicagoJust got back home and, while I am exhausted, I feel so satisfied. Thanks to everyone who made the weekend so special—especially for all the extra efforts way, way, way beyond the tops by Mark & Bill and Karen & Jeff.
Catch some Zzzz's, you know?
Thanks everyone.
hoops
Posted by: Jesse, TorontoI start my college education at Humber in a few weeks, so this should be cool. Usually it's lower to middle level Toronto professional jazz musicians who sit in at the Rex jam, but rarely, if ever, do cats like the ones on that list sit in, so this should be fun. I'm sure I will get my ass royally kicked on the bandstand, but I'm used to that (Chris Potter gave me a real musical shiner at a jam a few months ago).
Posted by: bratfille, going to TOAnyone else sitting in level 200 in Toronto?
Posted by: Big Fan, just changed the oil for the last time in the cadiWay to go Jane - we'll see you there!
Posted by: Bird Lives, torontoJesse,
I copied this from my message to the Toronto Dan Fest list. Not only Classic Rex Jam night (where I have embarresed myself more than once) but the Humber Faculty will be there...you know how great these players are. I will speak to Don Thompson and let him knmow that a bunch of crazed Steely Dan fans will be at the Jam...some of whom can play. As for Donald and Walter showing up...the stuff of dreams!
Here is the great news..and with apologies to Richard Underhill. The 9th is a Tuesday, which is always Classic Rex Jam night. The host band is The Humber College Jazz All Stars. This band is comprised of Faculty members (http://www.humber.ca/creativeandperformingarts/music/diploma/faculty.htm ) including such luminaries as Don Thompson, Ted Quinlan, Brian Dickinson, Ted Warren, Barry Elmes, Mike Murley, David Ochipinti, Mark and Terry Promane, Rick Lazar, Pat Labarbera, Alex Dean, Pat Collins, and on and on…a who’s who of Canadian Jazz. I am not sure who will actually be there that night but will investigate (I know several of these people personally).
Those of you who play, bring your instruments, (Don…let’s touch base off list, the stage is available now!) Somehow we must figure out how to get the band to show up..after all when else will they get to jam with such luminaries!
Posted by: Jesse, TorontoWhat would be even better about the post-Toronto-show get-together, would be if Don and/or Walt sat in at the Rex. Tuesday night at the Rex is the Classic Rex Jazz Jam, where anybody is allowed to sit in.
Posted by: Pam, Ding- Time out of mind... that must be where I am today.
Posted by: Pam, Thanks - got it! What's TOM stand for (a little sleepy today...).
Pam
Posted by: Bird Lives, TorontoSept 9th it is!!!! I am arranging to have our soiree after the show (the inaugural Steely DanCanFest). In the spirit of camaraderie, and given that Walter, Donald et al lived through the heat and darkness with us this last Thursday night, we need to ensure they actually attend the event at The Rex. If anyone reading this post has any way of getting a message directly to them...let them know they are expected with the band and the roadies!! We will show our appreciation for not blowing us off and cancelling.
Posted by: Rindy, NYCOK, I stand corrected, Shaun
I was sitting in the 300s...
-Rindy
Posted by: Rindy, NYCPam - the setlist was the same as other recent dates on the tour
See previous posts on this list for further info.
-Rindy
Posted by: Shaun, BostonA great two nights! Boston into New Jersey. Just got back home. Next show is AC.
Rindy- Actually Donald didn't sing 'Retha at PNC last night. As a matter of fact, he didn't sing anything. Their was this crazy fan standing in front of the stage. He was singing (yelling) the lyrics right at Donald. When the Aretha part came up, Donald shut his mouth and the guy and most of the crowd sang "Aretha Franklin". Donald said "you see, I don't even have to be here" and then sang "she don't remember the queen of soul" It was pretty cool.
p.s. I like Cindy Mizel much better than Victoria Cave.
Posted by: Pam, Does anyone have the actual setlist from PNC?
Posted by: Nazman, New FrontierDeacon of da Blues
Thank you for mentioning Victoria Cave. I miss her too. I like that trio, Cynthia, Carolyn and Victoria. Oh well, things change but i have wondered what happened to her. From her interview session on the TvN DVD one would wonder if she wasn't feeling very appreciated and moved on. Or maybe it was just a conflict in schedule. Anybody out there who knows what i'm saying. Anybody got any answers to this APB? Delightful interviews on the DVD, many of which are priceless. The TvN DVD is one of my staples cause if i can't be with them live at least i can go DVD. It's all good!!!!
Posted by: bratfille, "I am Canadian"Toronto show rescheduled for Sept. 9, same venue.
https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasepage_ca.asp?event_id=100036AE7B504778
Yahooo!!!!
Posted by: mps1156, ChicagoDoes anyone know how I can purchase an Aja 2003 tour shirt? I went to the show in Chicago on 8/8 and they were sold out of XL's. The website doesn't sell them and I'm not about to roadtrip to another city. Anyone willing to purchase a t-shirt at an upcoming show? Thanks for your help/suggestions.
Posted by: Jesse, TorontoThe new leg 2 opener will be Toronto on September 9th. Just got it off Ticketmaster.ca. I was watching a news story on Much More Music (Canadian VH1) about all the shows that were cancelled/postponed due to the blackout. To my horror, they said that Steely Dan had been cancelled. Luckily, they were wrong. Just postponed until September 9th.
Posted by: Rindy, Back From PNC>You see, instead of singing, ''That's 'Retha Franklin,'' he sang, ''That's Otis Redding.''
He sang 'Retha last night at PNC
It was a fantastic show
My only complaint is that the sound seemed to be a bit out of sync during Aja and Time Out of Mind - especially the former
When Donald started blowing on his keytar (is this the correct name?), it gave off feedback that it almost split my eardrums
Despite knowing the whole setlist before the show started, it was still a fantastic performance by everyone involved
Ted Baker seemed to have a bigger role than what I would have expected from what posters said from other venues
Tom Barney was the one who had too small a role IMHO - seemed like the only time he had a chance to shine was during the intros; also dug his new hairstyle
Here's to hoping there are many more tours to come...
-Rindy
Posted by: Gretchen, workFez-
I'm going to Mohegan, but I haven't heard of anything going on before the show. Anyone else? I've never been there, actually, but was told it was a small venue. Acoustics are supposed to be excellent.
Posted by: Jahida, VermontManchester, NH danfans... I am going - my first SD show!! Paid my hard earned money for floor seats for me and my guy. Very excited reading the setlists, lot of my favorite tunes!! LOVE Janie Runaway! I am going to try convince my honey to meet and the bbq but if not, then maybe someone can say hi at the show. I am 23, light brown hair, BIG hazel eyes, and will be in row N (?) seats 4&5 Section 3. Super excited, been waiting all summer!
Jahida (juhiduh)
Posted by: Bill,
Was at show show last night at PNC. Lifelong Dan fan whose favorite album was "Royal Scam". Saw Donald and Walter on '93 tour at Meadowlands and Madison Square Garden, then few years ago at PNC. Very predicable sets, especially encores of My Old School and FM. Didn't want to hear Walter sing "Haitian Divorce" either...still have memories of everyone taking bathroom breaks during his solo stuff from last tour.
"Parker's Band" was excellent as was "Don't Take me Alive". Wished they played Black Friday or some older stuff from the first 3 albums; was basically a Aja/RS/Goucho tour like a few yrs ago.
Posted by: Jane Lightning, Echoing everyone's sentiments about the Boston show: What a Night!
Thanks Mark and Bill for the usual fantastic Danfest. No doubt a repeat Danny winner. An impossible act to follow, but...
In case anyone going to Manchester tomorrow night is not on the Danfest mailing list, here are the details for the pre- and post-show fests. Sorry for the duplication if you already received the email.
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The closest I ever get to Manchester is either I-93 or the airport, so last week, I went on a fact-finding mission to check out the Verizon Arena environs. There is no central parking area, just small lots and/or meters, which rules out tailgating possibilities. The promising-looking restaurant where we conducted the dry-run was an overpriced disappointment.
The Plan B Manchester Danfest (without quite the cachet of the Slang Me Boston Danfest) was thus born. No Steely Dan show is quite complete without a Danfest, and this gathering will definitely be better than the (nothing) alternative. It's now or never (Slang Me), and these places look pretty good!
4:00 - 6:00:
Down 'n Dirty BBQ 168 Amory ST Manchester
www.downdirtybbq.com
20-seat BBQ joint, Interesting Menu, Cheap, BYOB (Beer, Wine)
6:00 - Walk/Drive to arena, probably a 10-15 minute walk
After the show:
Strange Brew Tavern 88 Market ST Manchester
www.realblues.com/club9.html
$2 Beer (huge selection of imported and microbrews)
$2 Well Drinks
Downtown Manchester and Parking Alternatives:
www.verizonwirelessarena.com/arena_info/parking.asp
Hope to see you there!
Posted by: seth2112, PNC show on Sunday night===Lightning, thunder and rain started to pour from the skies during the opening chords of GW. Very surreal.
Parkers Band truly underated from the board, it really grooves. Don't take me alive not to be missed, Harrington pulls a hendrix reverb for he intro.....
Posted by: thefez98, BostonUnfortunately, the timing of this tour sucked for us as we're moving next Thursday and scrambling. However, we did take time-out Saturday night to catch a WONDERFUL show at GREAT WOODS. Bumming we couldn't make it up to the Danfest, which I heard was awesome and we howled when Walter donned the T-shirt at the end. We we're looking to seeing Hoops and gang again for the first time since the Le Bar Bat weekend.
We're also going to take T.O (two days before moving) to catch the Mohegan Sun show, anyone going? any meeting place been established? We're actually looking to spend the night at the OTHER casino (FoxWoods) afterwards as we have some 'Wampum Bucks' to cash out.
As far as the song selection, hey - you can't please everyone with such a nice list to select from but MOS and FM are getting tired for an encore. God, would EMG be a great closer or what? Also, I think Lunch with Gina is noticably absent as it's a great rocker and dance song.
Looking forward to next Monday night at the casino,
Jim & Danielle
Posted by: Jaydee, London EnglandI think Hoops should get ISP to run another check - Rajah and Meal Reviewer must be the same (two geniuses on one board - I think not). Probably they're Freako too.
Anyway, sad (very sad) thing is I can't get over to Dallas gig due to work stuff, so need to unload 2 tickets. Cost me $156 - I'll sell for $100. Where's best place to do this? Here? Any advice appreciated.
(Some good news at least - England just beat S Africa at cricket - yes!).
Posted by: Boston Rag, Gretchen - It's not silly, it's a beautiful thang!
Mark in Boston
Posted by: Gretchen, Ok, ignore me, I know sound silly, but it's just so exciting!
Posted by: Gretchen, driving to the seashore and right back againMO_
I'm soooo afraid I'll cry when I see them,(especially Don), for the first time. If I hear him sing "Bad Sneakers" I know I'm finished. Like you, I've been a fan since I was a kid and Mohegan will be the first time I've experienced them live. I'd love to have closer seats, just for the purpose of seeing Don-I could never be to close to him! Isn't he heavenly? Genius has a powerful magnetism, I fear.
Posted by: Deacon of da Blues, DetroitishI'm weighing in, just to be heard.
Saw the Chicago and Detroit shows. Great for the experienced fan, but hard to follow for the uninitiated. Detroit - Yuppie crowd, most arrived during the first song. For a Detroit crowd it was surprising and disappointing.
My observations (keep in mind I'm a big fan who just wants them to be perfect like the other superheroes from my childhood):
I thought Caves was an unfortunate choice. It's not a good live tune, just a favorite tune. Wu or Fez or EMG, Gina, Reelin, Do it Again, and twenty others would have been a better choice.
Janie Runway - Great in the studio, not a live tune either.
Walter should not sing. Walter plays fill (noodles) and supports better than anyone I've heard and is very competent on the lead, though not showy. He and Donald seem content to allow the players to shine while they, along with the rhythm section, are content to keep the train on the tracks. The formula works.
Herrington is a great guitar player but needs to play outside the ropes a little more...thats what a lead is there for and god knows he's talented enough to do it. He seems like a shy studio guy who is a bit uncomfortable in front of a crowd. Very, very talented, please don't get me wrong. I miss Drew Zingg from the '93 tour.
Baker is underrated...he plays alot of chops that are obscured by the volumes in live music. Multiple instrument handy man that you NEED in a band of this caliber.
Donald was more outfront and outspoken that I've ever seen him. He seems to be trying to avoid hiding behind the mike as he has in the past. Immensely talented but I suspect he too loves the studio moreso than live performances. Great technician, brilliant writer and arranger. I wish he'd talk more and share some insights for those of us hungry for more information.
Carlock - Holy shit, sign him up because he won't be around long. They have been blessed by great drummers on all of their tours. He has seized the tunes and plays them like he owns them. The Josie solo started slow, built beautifully and then he finished like a tasmanian devil. Would love to hear that track on a live album though the would not likely do that since it's already on AIA
Girls - Very tasty. Parker's Band, however, does not compare to Dirty Work last time around. Dirty Work was stunningly beautiful and set the bar high. Victoria Cave, I miss looking at you.
Horns - Cornelius keeps everyone honest. Pugh's trombone is a critical part of the section that adds weight to the mix around the saxes and horn. Leonhart and Weiskopf are wonderful but seem under-utilized. I would like to see some Chicagoesque (the band not the city) mid-song arrangements similar to that in My Old School.
Barney - He's very competent but he isn't mixed loud enough...more of a mixing board issue. Maybe I heard the deep groove Becker layed down on EMG and expected that kind of weight on the tour. Detroit (open-air) was especially disappointing
Cubano Nights was a real nice touch to let these guys warm-up and for jazz lovers it was stunning.
Kid C., was awesome, as was Don't Take Me Alive, Josie, Black Cow, My Old School, Peg, TIMTM, FM (though not a favorite of mine)....hell I even liked the muci in the solo introductions (Baker's work).
They need three sets not two. They have so much more to say and so little time to say it........
Posted by: Honeybun, DAVIS:
'By the time they even think about a future tour, they will be 60...'
Actually you may have a point there!! Never thought about it like that...BUT their still NOT old!!! ;p
'Ron Fagen and Wally Beeker' lol, that's hilarious!
Honeybun
Posted by: Mo , on cloud 9I've been a danfan for close to 30 years and last night I finally got to see them live FOR THE FIRST TIME!!! We had 2nd row seats, right in front of Donald, almost a little too close, if you know what I mean, but nevertheless it was awesome to be so "up close and personal" with them. Even though I knew what they were going to play, it was better than I could have ever imagined. It was truly an outrageous show - an incredibly wonderful experience for me - I
cried through most of the first set - tears of sheer and utter joy.
Donald looked and sounded fantastic! And he was really, really into it, having a grand ole time. Actually the whole band seemed to be having a blast. They were so tight, everything was perfect. Perhaps some of that was because many of them were "home at last".
Keith Carlock is fucking amazing!! Even the band seemed to be blown away by his solo. And he's just a kid!!!
Any North Jersey fans going to Roseland who wouldn't mind if I tagged along?
~Mo
Posted by: Bill, PittsburghDonald has been substituing Otis for Aretha since '93. He has said (in jest? who knows....) that Aretha liked the song but objected to being characterized as someone a 19-year-old would have never heard of, since she's still around and performing, hence the namecheck of the long-departed Otis instead.
>You see, instead of singing, ''That's 'Retha Franklin,'' he sang, ''That's Otis Redding.''
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynIt's too delicate of an issue to push it here Gretchen! Whatever.
Posted by: Nazman, New FrontierGretchen
Have often thought myself that "Goodbye Look" would be a classic closer behind "My Old School." The band could go into a nice little jazz jam at the close of the song. It's such a great tune. Have i mentioned that i just Loooooooooove this band. When it comes to any given concert though i'll take what i can get. Again, that they're on tour is a nothing short of a miracle in itself. Lovin it...
Posted by: Lady Bayside, NYSo, so tired. YGK, a lovely friend of his, Hoops and I were able to make it to PNC last night through a downpour, clogs at the Holland Tunnel, and general obstacles to make it to what was a gorgeous night, musically, anyway.
We had seats in the loge, section 303, to the left of the sound board, and the sound quality was wonderful. I regret the lack of dancability in my section (I didn't want to obstruct anyone's view) but I sat--no, vibrated--in my seat and danced as well as I could anyway.
I know lots of people have heard the setlist, so I won't bother (frankly, I don't know if I could replicate it anyway), but the highlights for me were Kid C (my absolute favorite, even if they do play it every tour), Home At Last, Caves, and just listening to Donald and Walter banter. They were both in fine form...we were a "great f***in' audience" and they were absolutely fab. As one point, the audience was singing along, and Donald said "I don't even have to be here." I bet he liked the audience participation though. He was chatty last night.
The loudspeaker system had an announcement on it as we arrived that there were still seats available, but last night, as I was looking around, I can't imagine where they could have been. It was PACKED.
I hope Hoops made his flight...poor soul sacked out at Penn so he wouldn't miss the train to Boston (and the resulting flight to Chicago).
So, now I am prepping for JONES BEACH this Friday. Festivities start around 4 in the parking lot. You should be able to find my van, since I will be flying 3 Margarita shaped balloons, EMG-style.
I realize this is a generally uncreative review, but this is all I got right now, folks. Besides, I don't even have words to describe how fabulous it was.
Email me to RSVP for the Jones Beach fest...I just want a headcount so I can gauge food and drink.
LadyB
Posted by: Gretchen, Peter, a great many SD fans have been so since back in the 70's, when the band wasn't touring. Therefore, like myself, lots of these people have never heard their classics performed live. I realize that many of Miles' fans never heard his older material live, but I think D & W are trying to be more attuned to both the older and newer fan bases. Looking on the bright side, perhaps SD is planning future tours where 2VN and EMG will be more prominent, with less emphasis on Aja, RS, and Gaucho.
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynI would definitely prefer to have more recent material. I remember when Miles used to play, it was the last two albums and that was it, no matter how hard the crowd screamed for Kind of Blue or Bitches Brew or anything else. Anything older than the last two albums was considered ancient history. I must say I like this approach much better.
Posted by: JP, this bright familiar shoreFM just needs updating: "Iiii - Pod, (no commericials at alllll..)"
Posted by: davis, BostonI belive I just got the good bye look...
Posted by: Gretchen, Thanks, Davis, but somehow that doesn't have the same effect that Don would.......
Posted by: davis, bostonNo Mohegan for me Scurvey...Hope to hear something about NH tommorrow..
Wont you pour me a "cuban breeze: .....Gretchen....?
Posted by: Gretchen, kicking off my high heelsHow about "Goodbye Look?" I'd love to hear Don say my name live. God, is he beautiful!
Posted by: Razor-boy, Mass.Davis,
Lets just agree to disagee. FM is not a lousy song, its just in a lousy spot. If that song gets played anywhere else in the set it would be pretty much forgotten.
How 'bout like tours past we put in IGY instead. or even better how about Boston rag just for local sake.
Don't know anything going on in Manchester yet.....Stay tuned.
R.U going to mohegan too?
Dave
Posted by: davis, BostonScurvey,
Should just be a matter of time before it surfaces on Kazza or something, but like yourself I am very anxious...
Posted by: just another scurvey brother, barrytownWell, I've been digging like crazy trying to find a boot of the '03 tour and so far have come up with nothing. If anyone out there has a boot and would like to set up a trade, please send me an e-mail. I have a long list of Dan from other years as well as dozens of other artists.
thanks.
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, Abruzzi, ItalySignor de Freako - how can do you say in jour counti remova cucumber from los buttholos? You 'bout sharp as sack wet mice. Thud. Get happy scungilli.
We luvs da Ron Fagen and Wally Beeker. Baboolon Brothers. (shakee)
Posted by: davis, bostonRazor Boy, any pre concert activites you know of for Manchester tommorrow night??
Also, say what you want,, FM is a lousy song to end on, especially after My Old School.
Posted by: Grippa48, The band was so hot lastnite at PNC! The BEST perfomance I've ever seen the band do. My hats off to a Don and Walt for a performance well done. Thanks guys for a great time!
Posted by: Razor-boy, Mass., N.H. and Conn.More thoughts from saturday's show at the birdcage (aka: da tweeta' ctr.)
Sound = INCREDIBLE!! we were worried that being so close would compromise the quality, but after walking around abit, decided it was just as good as anywhere else in the building.
At one point, I think Donald accidently spit on the guy next to me while singing (I wonder if something like that is worth anything on ebay?).
Anyway I can't add to much to whats already been said. Great horns, phenomenal drumming, back-up gals were yummy (worthy of even being introduced twice!) and guitar-work very tight.
Song selection/set-list very good too. 5 songs from Aja! perhaps one of the best albums ever made. yesssssssss. Cave's, Aja, and Don't take me alive, highlights for me.
Les; lets not be too hasty in condemning peg, josie, babylon an kid charlemagne for more new stuff. If I remember the list correctly they did do 3 new songs. In my opinion 3 or 4 new songs is plenty. If they must alterate, lets get rid of janie runaway, a song even donald himself says they're "embarassed" to do. or a haitian divorce that just dosn't seem to fit in. Walter, love you man, but 1 walter song (slang) per show is enough.
Davis, buddy, easy on the FM thing, its a good song that keeps the crowd on their feet, and has a nice outtro for the guys to exit to. "kick off your high-heeled sneakers, its party time"
Looking forward to N.H and especially Conn. next week.
...........Dave
Posted by: Larry, NJSeeing Carlock on the drums at PNC last night reminded me of little Ricky playing the drums for his dad at the Tropicana on I love Lucy!I am so fucking jealous of that kids playing.He looked like it wasnt even hard to do but holy shit could he play.Just great,the whole show.Its wierd to see a kid up there with all the oldtimers but hes as good as any if not better.
Posted by: FREAKO, St.louisIm America we dont mince words, we simply say " You are a moron".
Posted by: Meal Reviewer, CaliEn countri los soldados atacaron a toda la gente que escucha a Ron Fagen, MIRA ADIOS. Don Carlos say the chords in la mejor C tiene las tonales C,E, B and G. Barna smuggle the tapes in her *colacha* and we make password to bring them to the peepil: BLACK COW NASDAQ DOW GAUCHO WOW MR. CHOW. Soldados only permit musica de "George Benson" in this month:
"I believe that children are the future
Teach them well etc."
whereupon Don Carlos say "I believe there is no future in this fucked up cuntri." Mala! Soldiers put his dumb ass in the carcel. Sick Fruity Bitches contiue to estudia RON FAGEN MUSIC like transposing the melody, inverting the intervals, placing the melody in retrograde, y augmenting the note values como "Royal Scom." Make me feel so beatous, like City of St. John!
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, Abruzzi, ItalyMi Freako - non mi dir que Meali est sucko! Never in mi vita trova funny hah hah like Meali. He iz dee sheeet, can smell? Even when his wif Barna no come to dis Amerika wit bonga banga fluffies and almost drownded, he keep pumpin da Steeli. How dare you, beeeaatch!
The new Sick Fruity Bitches album available now on Chicky-boom records. Got about as much publicity as EMG.
Posted by: freako, st.louisMeal Reviewer,
That maybe the worst/dumbest post I have ever read.
Posted by: Meal Reviewer, CaliEn mi Countri we have tabacca, we have xmas tree farm, we have J. Lo, we no have 'Zellie' (dios!), we no have no tenemos STILLI DAN EXIT 75 GARDEN STATE PARKWAY we get lost like loco mo's on New Yerzy, we Cali boys (en mi countri we have Beach Boy). A hip, hop, hippity bop. Sick Fruity Bitches *incorporating* la rap en nuestra musica more and more. En mi countri "Maricon Joe" make the WINDFLY tapes to give to peepil becio he thinkin he get the Goodbye Look from little boy he grab his bunny bun bun in el supermercado! The policia choke mi popps with STILLI tape in throat. Mi moms c
Posted by: thefez98, BostonHey folks, great show Saturday night at GREAT WOODS!!!
Here's a link to the review just printed in the Boston Globe Monday morning...
http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2003/08/18/steely_dan_still_reels_in_the_ears
Posted by: les, new yorkpnc arts review
donald continually uses his ritz cracker joke during "hey nineteen". something he did on y2k tour, that was shockingly bad
donald in rare form, very energetic, very into it..
the girls are unreal, always smiling, very delicious
walter very bearable
harrington and carlock superb
josie pag nineteen babylon and charlemage should be tossed, albeit great songs, we could use pixeleen and greenbook et. al, instead of that "greatest hits" tour feeling
they are still, without a doubt, the best thing thats happened to music since the invention of the lyre, and sound spectacular--
see you at jones and roseland, and at pete fogel's bash at le bar bat..nice to meet you, pete
lester
Posted by: peakpros, NJJust got back from the PNC. (Show ened about 45 minutes ago.) In a nutshell: just a FANTASTIC SHOW. Even with the rain, which Donald apologized for, it was a great time.
Same set list that I saw in an earlier post with TOM the third song.
Donald was much more energietic than in previous years (96 and 00 shows.) Walter was really on top of his game also. His HD was very well received.
John H was just incredible. Maybe it was him being so close to home (West Long Brach) but I just sensed he was a little extra pumped up.
Babylon Sisters, Caves, Take Me Live, KC were highlights for me.
I can't wait for Borgata in 13 days. 3rd row and no rain to deal with.
Posted by: Bird Lives, TorontoRobWired,
That white Saxophone is very famous, but the story of how it came to be played that night is really a sad one..a reflection of how Bird's addiction and the depths he would sink to feed it hurt his personal reputation. He arrived in toronto without a horn, as the previous one gad been pawned for some heroin. Bird had a reputation for borrowing horns for gigs,and then needing a fix, slipping out the baclk door, pawning the horn and scoring some heroin. Knowing that no one in Toronto was prepared to let him use a horn of any value, so a local well known jazz player arranged for local music dealer to provide a horn..the white plastic one that now sits in a museum in Kansas! I prefer to not mention hat players name. Listening to the recording of that concert, it is astounding to hear the sound that Charlie Parker created with that cheap plastic horn. I highly recommend the book I mentioned in my previos post.
Posted by: harmolodic, RIHey all -- first post for me
I was at the Boston (actually Mansfield) show too, and something very strange happened to me sometime during the second set. I think it might have been somewhere between "Josie" and "Kid Charlamagne." I kinda blacked out or something... thinking to myself, 'they've done everything off AJA except "Deacon Blues" and "I Got The News,"' and then suddenly I hear the opening to "I Got the News," but before Donald starts singing, the band decided to throw in a bit of "Chameleon" by Herbie Hancock. Was I dreaming or what? The show seems like it happened so long ago... I was out on the lawn and not being very sociable, just sitting in the wet grass as the rain poured down on me. I didn't start moving around until the encore. Someone was smoking some weed, that was probably what messed me up. Must have been some strong stuff.
But yeah, overall I was very pleased. I saw them in the same venue in '96, and I was very happy that there was little overlap between those two shows. All the songs I was missing in '96 ("Babylon Sisters," "Black Cow," etc) were played this time around, and "Aja" was so perfect it sent shivers through my body. "Slang of Ages" ruled too. Too bad no "Pixeleen." That song cracks me up every time.
I also heard some major bitching on the way out. Someone was complaining about not enough material from the last two albums and way too much from AJA. "AJA sucks!" she said. HUH???? Whatever.
And as for the Great Woods reference, I do believe Donald was making a statement. I think he said "it's always great to be back playing in a place we like to call GREAT WOODS" and then made some comment about corporate sponsorship or something. Right on, Don!
Posted by: davis, BostonAnyone going to the NH show Tuesday night, advise if you are meeting at a local watering hole before the show, I may have an extra ticket 2nd row center stage.
Posted by: davis, bostonHoneybun,,
By the time they even think about a future tour, they will be 60...
Posted by: WuDuF, Bethel, CTI am a long time fan of Steely Dan, but a short-time user of the pc. I am looking forward to sharing some of my insights and ideas with this highly intelligent group of music fans. My friend Zim and I were "speaking Dan" in college long before alot of you were even born! It's interesting to see the diversity of people at these shows(I've seen 18). Last night's show at GREATWOODS blew me away. I wanted to head down to New Jersey, but lack of sleep and another dismal weather forecast changed my mind. I will be catching a few more shows on this tour.One thing I do have to say on my introductory post, however--it's very disheartening to see these guys give their all and play their asses off for us for 2+ hours, and then to hear people complaining on the way out about what they DIDN'T play. Come on people-they have such a repertoire that lots of our favorites will undoubtedly be left off. I think I'll leave it up to their wisdom to know what is going to sound good with that particular group of musicians at that point in time. And yes-I'd be just tickled pink if they played "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star!" Nice to be here! Enjoy!!
Posted by: hoops, somewhere on the east coastJust checking by real quick on the way to Holmdel.
Mark and Bill;
Thanks for EVERYTHING!
Of all the shows this year I have seen, perhaps of all the SD shows I have seen ever, this was the best, by far. Everything was outstanding and, the legend again reasserts itself—Boston has the best audience!
SLANG ME!
hoops
Posted by: lucky henry, shantytownScotty (Dann) - thank you for the ear-candy from Cleveland. Heading out in about an hour to meet the maj; probably rolling into Holmdel in the '82 250D (blue/gray).
Thanks to everyone for the great reviews,
lh
Posted by: Honeybun, Anyone gonna be at the greenroom anytime soon? I'll hang about for a while.
Honeybun
Posted by: Honeybun, 'Pushing 60'..come on, that's a bit harsh! Don is 55 and Walt is a couple of years younger! They're not pensioners yet!
Honeybun
Posted by: davis, boston
Caves of Altimara, Dont take me alive and Black Cow were just incredible last night. I cant tell you how much I enjoyed Caves live. Again Walter on Haitian was OK, nothing spectacular, but entertaining none the less. I mentioned it earlier, they have to do something about that FM as the last song, such a buzz kill. I hope everyone ouyt there apprciates this tour, because I have a feeling this could be it folks, These guys are pushing 60...
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, TourGuides R USBoston Rag!...Thanks for the update on the show and on your Danfest...Wish I could have been there...Nice job on getting the "Slang Me" shirt up to WB!...You're so right about the critics and the "nostalgia" act references...I remember a reviewer from like 10 years ago who wrote something to the effect of "when the music is this timeless, the word "nostalgia" does not apply"...That's more on the money now than ever...I'm on my way out the door, heading up to LA to act as official greeter for Scotty and Fanofdan, our touring mates from Australia!...The Preztel Logic Band (SteveeDan and friends) are playing tonight at The Baked Potato in North Hollywood at 8:30...LA-area Danimals are strongly encouraged to attend!...Bring on Jones Beach!...SOH
Posted by: Big Fan, one more thingDonald made repeated refrences to Greatwoods much to the delite of the fans - not the current correcy name of Tweeter center - an anti commercialism staement perhaps?
Posted by: Big Fan, Home at lastJust got back from Boston. I took some notes that I’ll share here:
1. First, thanks to Mark and Bill for putting together the Danfest. The shirts were the highlight of the day! Getting a place to meet and eat is fantastic!
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3. When I got a beer inside the venue – they card you. You have to take your driver’s license out of the wallet. No problem. The vendor remarked how much nicer the people were tonight than last night. I asked who was play? It was Ozzie – no comment. Hoops it’s true I did accidentally sink a well into the fountain of youth perhaps that is why I was carded.
4. I’ve really disappointed in the concert reports that no mention of what the choir was wearing – I’ll fix that over the next few weeks. Last night they wore black spandex slacks with red tops. Carolyn’s has red sequins across the top at the bust line.
5. Since when did the Tweeter center add all of those rows on temporary seats in the front? I can tell you they are uncomfortable. I was so close to the stage I could touch the black curtains. Too close actually . I could hear Don sing before it came out of the speakers.
6. Tremendously hot and muggy night. I wouldn’t have wanted to sit in those new seats they’ve added where the lawn used to be – outside – no cover. Passing thunderstorms about 20 minutes in.
7. Setlist:
Instrumental Overture
Aja
TOM
Godwhacker
Caves
Black Cow
Bab Sisters - and the sisters did shake it
Slang
Intros
Peg
Home at Last
Break
SD Show
Janie Runaway
Hey 19 – they let the crowd sing much of it. Always a favorite in Boston! Did not sing Otis Reading
Haitian Divorce – Walter lead – OK I love this song, but truthfully this is the weak song in the setlist – the Steely Dammed played it better –they need Hank Easton on guitar with that mouth wa-wa effect ala Peter Frampton.
Things I miss the Most
Parker’s Band
Josie Keith Carlock drum solo – how old is he anyway – very nice.
Kid Charlemagne
Don’t Take Me Alive
Encore
My Old School
FM
Walter did let a Slang Me T-shirt from the Danfest be draped over his back at the end.
All in all a nice show – no question the crowd was not as enthusiastic as in 00 and 96 was probably the loudest crowd. Janelightning and Mr. Janelightning and I hooked up – can it have been 3 years since Le bar Bat? We talked about how it’s probably many of the same people – and we’re now 7 years older – hence the less raucous crowd.
We’ll see you all Tuesday in New Hampshire – Jane is working on a place to meet downtown – within walking distance. Not necessarily a Danfest, but a good starting off point.
Posted by: Boston Rag, Mansfield show/DanfestWhat a night! I've seen the band dozens of times in the past 10 years and last night was one of the best show I've ever seen. Walter's playing just keeps getting better and better. Donald's voice is top form! He seems to have this new found confidence in his singing and stage presence and he's letting it all hang out!!!
More details later but highlights for me were - Parker's Band, Caves of Altimira and Herington letting loose on Don't Take Me Alive. The stage projections really enhanced the show. The whole thing, the tightness of the band, the song selection, the lighting - just killer.
I mean is there a better or more vital American band on the scene today!?!? Critics that say it's a nostalgia show should be rounded up and dope slapped.
Had a great time at the 2003 Boston Danfest. Sponge Bill Griffin and I hosted the pary with help from Hoops and DJ Jack Tolman.
It was geat seeing the Salem girls - Karen and Christine, Al and JaneLightning, Karen and her husband, Big Fan, The Babylon Sisters and so many others. I'm sorry I didn't have much time to schmooze, I was working the music with Jack T.
It was nice to meet Dan fans from around the globe - Hans from Rotterdam, Kalvin from Wales and Shane Fitzgibbon from Ireland.
My favorite guest was The Fez Man, Paul Mahoney, who just might be the coolest man on the planet. He shows up at the Danfest in a limo wearing a white tuxedo and tails amd a white Steely Dan fez on top of his head. When he walked into Devon's he was like Moses parting the Red Sea. People ran to grab their cameras. It was wild.
The Highlight of the Day: Bill and I had 100 Slang Me t-shirts printed for the Danfest. Hoops took 5 shirts and broght them up to the stage during intermission at the show. The shirts made it backstage. At the end of the encore FM, one of the stagehands came out and draped what looked like a white towel on Walter's back. I said to myself, that's strange, is Walter doing a James Brown cape parody? And when he turned around with his back to the audience, it was THE FUCKING SLANG ME DANFEST SHIRT! Hoops, Bill and I roared with laughter and slapped high fives - Mission Accomplished!
Hoops, thanks for everything! You're the best!
Mark in Boston
Posted by: Jesse, TorontoMassey Hall would be incredible, as a) it's a great venue, and b) you can easily wait by the stage door and meet the musicians. However, I highly doubt they will move the show there. It would cause too much ticket confusion. I just hope they reschedule it anywhere in Toronto, so I can see them finally.
Posted by: Shaun, BostonDavis- Yes, the Boston show was killer!! I agree about FM. Let's put in EMG instead. Yeah...that's the ticket.
Posted by: ed beatty, @home-but on the way to Jones BeachHi,
Semi-interesting statistical link regarding internet traffic at SD.COM
Ed
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=1y&size=medium&compare_sites=&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.steelydan.com%2femg.html#top
Posted by: davis, boastonWhat can I say? Last nights show in Boston was incredible, I cant believe how good the sound and Donalds voice was. From Black Cow, to Caves of Altimara, it was quite a moving show for all dan fans. Keith Carlock may not be human. Only drwback was the encore, the get everyone up with My old school, the place goes nuts, then close our with FM? Kind of a buzz kill.. I am seenig them again Tuesday night, thank goodness, I cant wait.
Posted by: Grippa48, PNC N.J. Tonite Sunday Aug 17
Remember friends PNC lots open at 3pm, so come early have fun!
Posted by: Gus Mahler, Tristan: I'm with you!
Posted by: RobWired, 18th and VineHey, Bird Lives! You know about Massey Hall!? Well, of course you do; you're there in Toronto.
I have a vinyl release of the historic concert that was recorded there with Bird, Dizzy, Max Roach, Mingus ... The LP is called ''The Greatest Jazz Concert Ever.'' The cover shows the roof floating above the building with light streaming out of it.
Here in Kansas City, we have the plastic sax that Bird played that night only. It's in the American Jazz Museum in the Historic 18th & Vine District.
So, yeah, that would be cool: Steely Dan playing ''Parker's Band'' at Massey Hall.
Now if only they would play ''Groovin' High'' or ''Relaxin' at Camarillo,'' just to show thay could do it. What fun that would be!
Hey, and did anyone in Chicago catch the band quoting the opening to ''In the Midnight Hour'' during the introductions? They did it a couple of times, at least.
Then later, my girlfriend, having heard about Donald flubbing lines, asked me if he made a mistake during ''Hey Nineteen.'' I said no.
You see, instead of singing, ''That's 'Retha Franklin,'' he sang, ''That's Otis Redding.'' Although now that I think about it, maybe he should have sang, ''That's Wilson Pickett,'' considering the ''Midnight Hour'' qoutes.
Fagen was flub-free in the Windy City.
Posted by: Scotty & Fanofdan, Sydney International AirportG'Day folks,
Tried to get into the greenroom from this crap internet kiosk at the airport. No luck !
South & Steveedan, see you in about 20 hours !!
The Aussies are on their way so rev up your motor scooters and get out your hats and s !!
Scotty & Fanofdan
Posted by: Mo Leisure, Here at the Western WorldLike those too. They sort of personify the whole sordid,self-aggrandizing "scene" of what I interpret to be Southern California in much the same way that "Glamour Profession" expose the slick and somewhat fetid underbelly of the ca 70's Drug Culture,although the same prism seems to work in the Len Bias era as well. (Hollywood,I know your middle name!" What FASCINATES me MOST about SB Kids is the vocal "Vamp" behind the lyrics! At first blush,it SOUNDS like "Lost Wages", but as I kept listening to it,it SOUNDED as if one or 2 stanzas MAY INDEED be "Lots Wages!" I could "salt away" indefinitely about this,and it seems to work both ways!
Posted by: Tristan Fabriani, Speaking of lyrics, my favorite SD line of all is:
Show Biz Kids makin' movies of themselves, you know they don't give a fuck about anybody else.
From the best album, CTE.
Your thoughts?
Posted by: Mo Leisure, Through the SkylightOnce again,"The Masters" have "nailed it" in terms of prescience in terms of their recent lyrics,in "light of" the recent situation in the Northeast: "So let's 'switch off' ALL the lights.....!"
Need I say more?
Posted by: Shaun, BostonPete!!!!
You're the man!!!!
I'm coming to both shows at Roseland. My girl friend and another couple already have tickets. My friends sister and her boy friend might be coming to both shows as well. I'll know more on Monday. I'll email you then.
The pre and post parties sound like a blast! I knew you would come through! (again)
Can't wait!!
Posted by: Evan, Correction on last post... My extra tickets are for SATURDAY 9/13, not friday.
evan
Posted by: Evan, Hi. Long time lurker finally posts...
I have two extra tickets to the Friday Roseland show, which I'll sell at face value minus ticketmaster fees at $75 each. Can meet at show or before in Manhattan.
best,
evan
ebgtrade@hotmail.com
Posted by: Pete Fogel, NYCROSELAND Festivities!
Friday September 12
5:00pm - Pre Show gathering at the Novotel Hotel, 52nd St & Broadway (across the street from Roseland). The Novotel lobby bar is the best kept secret in NYC. Located on the 6th floor, the lobby bar has a huge outdoor terrace that wraps around the entire building with great views of Times Square and Roseland.... oh, and you're about 40 yards from the venue.
Post Show - Right after the show til 4:00am... Party for the Steely Dan band/crew and fans five blocks north (5 min. walk) of Roseland at Le Bar Bat with a special performance by Funk Filharmonik. This 14 piece funk/soul band is made up of Tower of Power alumni, including vocalists Tom Bowes and Brent Carter and all five horn players. We are expecting many special guests, including former Steely Dan session players.
Your Roseland ticket stub or just mentioning "Steely Dan" will get you discounted admission to the club ($10 instead or $15).
This should be a fun night, we're expecting a big crowd from all over the world...and the best part about it is that everything is within walking distance.
More details to be announced.
http://www.lebarbat.com
Saturday September 13 - TBA
**If anyone still needs tickets for either Roseland show, I purchased a block of tickets for each night for a group from England that had to cancel. I am selling floor tickets for face value ($75), you won't have to pay the ticketmaster fees. Email me if you are interested, I have 6 tickets available for each show.
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KYI just thought I'd give my fairly short but thorough take on the '03 Tour.
Okay, so they're not perfect live. I don't want them to be perfect! Where's the fun in that? The set list is pretty good--it's energetic and fun. I'm not going to bitch and moan because they didn't whip out some obscure songs this time. Though Fire in the Hole, Turn That Heartbeat Over Again, or Doctor Wu WOULD have been nice to hear... ;) When I go to a concert, I want to hear some enjoyable music, and the setlist really catered to that. Peg may not be one of their best songs (okay, I really don't like Peg that much at all), but it goes over well live and will get your toes tapping.
My only complaint is there weren't enough songs off EMG. I would have rather seen Lunch With Gina than Parker's Band (definately not one of my favorite SD tunes) Gina would go over incredibly well live I would imagine.
Keith Carlock really is simply a great drummer whether live or in the studio. I hope Don and Walt make it a point to hang onto him for their stuff for as long as possible. John Herington's guitarwork is perfect for SD's style and he needs to stick around as well. The rest of the band is great, but those two were definately the standouts.
Posted by: Jesse, TorontoThe acoustics at the Molson Amphitheatre are beautiful, especially for a band like the Dan. A louder, more guitar-heavy band gets a little distorted, but that won't be the case. I saw 2 shows there last month: the Allman Brothers Band, and James Taylor. ABB was a bit loud and distored, but James Taylor was absolutely perfect. I was in the middle of the lawn, and I could hear every lyric perfectly, each individual backup singer, each horn player. It was incredible.
Posted by: Nice Guy, Toronto Acoustics??Hi,
Considering seeing Steely Dan on their new date here in Toronto.
My question is this: How are the acoustics?
I've seen SD twice--one of those times was in Cleveland (Cuyahoga Ampth?). I had good pavilion seats, but the acoustics were so bad I could barely make out what songs were being played.
Actually, I tend not to go to big rock concerts in general because of the consistently bad sound quality for a high price.
However, if the acoustics are OK in Toronto, I'll consider going.
Thanks for any info!
Posted by: DJ, Shi-townHey Scott from Minny,
"Parker's Band" makes mention of the sax in the lyrics. "Savoy Sides presents a new ________ sensation." Maybe that's what she heard?
Posted by: Bratfille, Just got back from TO last night after a self-imposed 5 hour Danfest on my car stereo.
What a disappointment in some ways. I was so pumped for this event, but I did get to laugh and play with my old HS friend (and her neighbourhood) while the lights were out. She just happened to know the venue marketing director who we constantly called for updates about the show(s). Whe threatened to get drunk and take advantage of her pool if it was cancelled.
I'm debating whether to cash in my ticket and go catch the NY state fair show instead. What do you think?
Posted by: Adam Black, NYC areaHello one and all. Just discovered this site--more fun than a pranymphic glider. Quick query re: tix prices. Currently tix for Jone Beach for Aug 22 and going for $110 and up for pretty good orch. seats, proportionate mark up on other seats (on Craigslist, for example) Demand, though, seems a little "soft"--and clearly is so for PNC for Sunday night? Any chance I'll be able to do better on show night? I know this is a crudely commerce-oriented post, hope its OK; I just don't make too much $$$ and really need to indulge with caution (Everyman must go...) Best to all. --AS
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, Rome, ItalyBendy- bendster- bendini WOW great original thought that "OH SHIT" observation. Yes, absolutely, there are SO many "OH SHIT" lyrics which usually come at the close of verses, quatraines or couplets. Here's just one but I'm sure if we dug back to the begining of Dan, we'd find a buttload: "days really don't last forever - but it's gettin pretty damn close." Just when they start to reconcile themselves somehow, everything goes to shit. I love it. Bravo bravo.
DACW - I like your death motif even better than my addiction motif on Gina.
You guys are on now.
By the way, every newspaper here talks about how Americans were panicked by the blackout, that we're in crisis and paranoid. Asswipes. They really don't get how strong and centered we are. We're shaken, yes, but we're also stirred. Hell they believe every idiot conspiracy theory out there. And the Italians LIKE us! The world doesn't GET us at all, it's almost like trying to sell a total moron on Steely Dan.
Posted by: Laina, SLODACW That's an interesting interpretation of it...it does fit, tho.
Lainalove
Posted by: moray eel, ?I have a friend (a very tough critic) who had never seen the Dan live before. He saw the show at Pine Knob this week and he said it was awesome.
Sorry to hear about the problems in Toronto.
BTW, are any of the Danfests screening a rough cut of Stuck On You?
m.e.
Posted by: DACW, Paroxysmal or is it Paralyzing thoughts about Lunch With Gina
OK, Here’s the Deal…Classic Steely Dark Comedy
Gina = The Grim Reaper…a female spectre in this song
Lunch With Gina = Death
“That must be her again
She's leaning on my bell
That cold psychotic ring
The one I know so well”
My Ride’s Here, Warren…the hooded one is a callin’
“So I'm nailed to the floor in the no-option zone
There's about zero chance she'll give up and go home”
The Grim Reaper always gets her prey
“This endless afternoon”
I’m just growing old
“It started on the day I met her”
Young men don’t think about death.
Middle-aged men do.
“Lunch with Gina is forever”
Start thinking maggots here…
“She's coming 'round the corner”
Death is always around the corner…you never know when she’ll call
“Her body's just a blur”
There’s no escape
“I peel out like The Flash
It don't mean boo to her”
Love these lines…you can run, but you cannot hide. Nothing’s more scary than the Grim Reaper… no one could spook her…
“So I duck into Nino's -- she's barred from the place”
NiN, church…still working on this one
“The minute I walk out she's right in my face
She's got nothing but time”
The Grim Reaper is the ultimate stalker
“No use in trying to be clever
Lunch with Gina is forever”
Yes, a date with the Grim Reaper is forever
“Now I'm in my apartment
The blinds down the lights out
The phone rings God help me
There's nobody home”
You haven’t got a prayer
“I crouch on the carpet
Not breathing just being
Like meat on the bone”
If I just play dead here, maybe she’ll go away
“I'm in a cozy booth
Maybe my watch is fast”
I’m dead, but I don’t know it?
“Another Tanqueray
I'll wait 'til twenty past
I'm about to go postal when she waltzes in
I guess she's a knockout -- hey where have I been?”
Hey, why’s everything going white? Gina sure has fine bone structure
“The waiter never comes”
No shoes no service
“God knows the service could be better”
A funeral Service
“Lunch with Gina is forever
Coffee and a kiss”
The kiss of death
“Maybe later maybe never
Lunch with Gina is Forever”
What next? Anything? A pool of Margaritias? A Party Record? The Ultimate Question…
Posted by: Jive Miguel (in from Bogata), DC - The power is (and has been) ON!Question:
Let's cut to the chase. Steely Dan is unquestionably head and shoulders beyond their so-called peers on the concert circuit this summer. Their music should offer something for everyone.
So, why are the boys still considered "esoteric", and why is their core fandom still considered a rather small contingent?
By the way, Lunch With Gina is, for whatever reason, (sometime the zen of SD cannot be translated into mere words) is fast becoming my fave tune on the CD. A good friend, who 2 years ago thought that the only song SD every produced was Rikki, is now a strong, if not rabid fan. We were listening to Gina, and during the passage of the song just before Don's synth solo, he said "Katie Lied". Several songs from the KL and Scam albums used a similar chord progression, a signature, and very satisfying trademark SD musical phrasing. Know what I'm talking about?
Posted by: Laina, grrrrrIs the Greenroom applet giving anyone else problems? It won't let me type anything in the chat field. *confused*
Laina
Posted by: Gretchen, not stacking cutouts at the StrandHope everyone is safe and well, and that power will be restored to all before the weekend is over.
KWAME CULTURE: You lucky devil, what I wouldn't have given to see my own little concert like you did. What was Don playing as far as jazz standards? I'd be interested. That in itself must have been the treat of a lifetime.
Posted by: Sylvain, MontrealJust arrived in Montreal from Toronto (600 km)one half hour ago. Been there two days, waiting for the Steely Dan concert with my 11 years old daughter. Scary days when you are with a child, waiting in the hotel, without food, all stores and restaurant were closed. And we learned that the concert is postponed. Well for my daughter and me, it was supposed to be the highlight of the summer. Now it is something a little bit sad. Montreal is too far away from Toronto to be back again: she will be at scholl, I will work again...
Maybe sometimes in the future...
Posted by: kwame culture, TORONTOLou Gehrig voiceover: "Today I consider myself to be...one of the luckiest men in the world."
Forgive the paraphrasing...but the quote applies to ME today.
I was the ONLY audience member at the soundcheck thursday afternoon when the power cut...the crew had JUST finished setting up all equipment and was waiting on the band...15 minutes later on stage walks on Mr.Bumphus...Mr.Baker...Mr. Carlock, Weiskopf and Jim Pugh.
Keith Carlock sets it off first with a monster warm up...i got the feeling he was practicing the opening to the entire 1st set...accompanied by either the guitar tech or Herington..guitarist was obscured by the side stage curtains...MAN OH MAN...Carlock is a mutha'...I was reeeeeeeeeeeally looking fwd to the gig...then six minutes into it.. ZAP!
The power/audio cuts out leaving the front of house techs in a fit..Exit Keith Carlock.
While the entire tour personnel...rush backstage to diagnose the situation...Ted Baker starts doin' a li'l sump'm on the Steinway...and who should walk in with his teal blue adidas but DF hisself'...he picks up the melodica and starts playing along wtih Ted..Walt joins in with Jim Pugh close behind...and before you know it...we got ourselves the mellowest of all soundcheck jams...it was incredibly serene 40 minutes...DF...playing out bars of jazz standard after jazz standard...on the melodica..complete with sax solos and of course the sweet piano sounds.... He even threw in 5 minutes of Josie with just him and Piano...I was in 7th heaven y'all.
Got to see Cindy and Cynthia as well...the backup vocalists...can you say fiiine?
WB came up on the scene towards the end of the jam/unplugged soundcheck...shot the shit with some of the tour personnel then headed backstage...where the mood was reminiscent of a war room...
The magnitude of the blackout began to filter through the venue...
The word was that if power wasn't restored by 6pm the gig would be off...There were many who suggested that Friday be the alternate date...too bad for Toronto...it was THE show all wanted to see...even the local roadies who do the load in load out...and NEVER watch shows.
waiting for the next one y'all...I'll NEVER forget the soundcheck for 1.
signed.
THE luckiest man in the world
Posted by: Boston Rag, No power problems here!Hoops - Looking forward to seeing you again. If you need anything before tomorrow, don't hesitate to call me.
Hope to see many NE Dandom friends too! We've even got Kalvin from across the pond in England coming in for the Danfest and concert.
The Boston Danfest Slang Me! t-shirts were ready today and they are very cool! Sponge Bill and I have got many requests for shirts from people out of state. We will try to set aside a bunch but the people who attend the Danfest will have top priority. (Except for Little Wild One - Don't worry Gail, yours are already safely put away.)
For those who have never been to Devon's the directions are below. It's kind of like a 60s diner, very bright and if you have kids in tow don't worry it's not like a sleazy bar. They serve beer and wine and the music will be ALL Steely Dan.
Swing by and chill before the show, have a late lunch or early dinner and schmooze.
Directions To Devon's Place:
from 495 N or S go to 95 N (exit 13a or b) take exit 7a (140 S - Mansfield) at 3rd light take right (106 Mansfield) go to 2nd light take right first drive way on left
From 95 N or S take exit 7a (140 S - Mansfield) at 3rd light take right (106 Mansfield) go to 2nd light take right first drive way on left
Here's more details:
http://home.comcast.net/~markdrinan/bosfest.html
Hope to see you tomorrow!
Mark in Boston
Posted by: DACW , blacked out on the tarmach: looks like most computers are flatlining in an ion grid...electrons frozen, no longer dancing 'til the dawn...
...hang in there - you all are showing fortitude...
I stand by my pre-season preduction: CUBS WILL WIN IT ALL (if they sit down Estes and go for the 4 man rotation)!!!
Posted by: Rose Darling, SeattleHoops:
Thanks for the kind words. As I stated earlier, I'm new to the board; if there is another Rose Darling in the Bluebook, I would most certainly go by another user name, out of respect. Please advise!
Posted by: hoops, bostonHoneybun:
I seem to be getting a lot less Danfan-related email today.
Headed for the Boston Rag in the morning. Can't wait. Hope Holmdel comes off without a hitch.
Thanks for the review Rose Darling (Seattle, not TX). As I have said before, it's amazing to consider that they are finally playing "Caves" live. What an amazingly long development this song has had. It was started in the late 60s/early 70s and here it is the 00's and getting played live.
Everytime I talk to someone who is experiencing Steely Dan live for the first time in the past few weeks is awed. They were casual listeners before, and now, on the strength of this band and the '03 shows, rather than the studio albums, they have become hard core fans. That says an amazing lot that Becker, Fagen and the band should be proud of.
jim
Posted by: Bird Lives, TorontoHoneybun, I am in Toronto,and we certainly are blacked out and STeely Danned out!!
THIS JUST IN
Now that I have power back, I can watch the news on the cursed TV. CITY TV just interviewed the General Manager of Ontario Place, and he stated that they don’t have anything confirmed they are hoping for an early September date. There is a 10-day break between the end of Leg 1 and the Start of Leg 2, so this looks like the window of opportunity. I sure hope you out of towners can all get back here, especially Per from Sweden! Hoops, clear your calendar and come north!
Posted by: Honeybun, Are the majority of the people from the board affected by the blackout?
Honeybun
Posted by: Rose Darling, SeattleOh, thank you Jaydee.
Hope your workload eases a bit and you're able to get to Dallas.
Posted by: Jaydee, London EnglandRose - lovely report, a 'joy to read', especially for us in Europe who are missing out on the tour. I booked tickets for Dallas but now looks like I won't make it due to work stuff. So I hope everyone keeps up those gig reports so we can at least try to imagine we're there with you !
Posted by: BLACKIE, MEMPHIS 1974, were u there?Hey, i dont know whether this is officially "out there" but just acquired a live audio of the guys in memphis'74, jeepers i can see why they shut up shop after this!, only joking really, it was nearly thirty years ago,but its fun to hear Donald asking for various forms of equipment to be turned up/down and the various guest vocalists.
I was just wondering if we still have anyone onboard from that era?
well thx for all the reviews/spoilers keep them comin and i hope you Canadians get to see the guys very soon.
cheers jeff blackie, wales uk (see u in memphis in september if its still standing)
Posted by: Bird Lives, TorontoVarious ramblings and thoughts on a hot and powerless day, with no chance to see and hear Steely Dan tonight herer in Toronto!
Last night the show was not cancelled until 6:30 PM, by which time I was already at the venue. I stayed and chatted with some people, one of whom claims to have spent a half hour backstage with DOnald and Walter at Jones Beach in the 90's. He claimed that he ate a meal with them..and made a point of mentioning that Doanld was weating kosher chicken.....does anyone know if Donald adheres to Kashruth? I find that a wonderful thought.
Well....at least I have seen them twice before! All things considered this is not too bad... there are some people in Toronto who are suffering real hardships, elderly and infirm cooped up in high rise buildings with no power, no water and a fridge full of spoiled food and medication. Sometimes we need a reminder as to how tenuous life can be.
While people have been incredible in helping each other out, and there have been no incidents of vandalism and hooliganism..I did see soemthin g disturbing this morning....,the only smashed window that I came across was at a Judaica store.. noe where else..and no other shops in that neighbourood...I would like to think it is a coincidence, however my instiuncts tell me that this is hate mongers taking advantage of the darkness.
My power came back on 20 minutes ago (4:20PM), and all indications are that it will not last, as we are now contending with rotating blackouts.
So... I am sure that we will see them again soon...however the good news is, that if it is in October we are probably looking at a different venue due to weather conditions...sooooo....considering how miserablea venue the Molson Amphitheatre is, there is a silver lining in the cloud. My suggestion is the venerable Massey Hall, home of what is arguably one of teh most famous Jazz performances of all time, 50 years ago in '53. On that night Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Max Roach, Charlie Mingus and Bud Powell performed on stage together.. the ONLY time they ever did. This concert was captured on tape by Max Roach, and the tapes were released on record by Roach and Mingus. Thisis actually a fascinating peice of Jazz history, which is told in an excellent new book called Quintet of the Year, by Geoffrey Hayden...I highly reccomend it. The synergy of Massey Hall for a Steely Dan performance is enhanced by the fact that they are playing Parkers Band on this tour..and finally that in the early 70's they were booked to play Massey Hall, however it was cancelled...rumour is due to issues with Customs, perhaps related to herbal medications used by the band members.
I hope that when the show is rescheduled, some of you will find your way up here, and be a part of a bigger and better inaugural Steely Dan CanFest!
Well thats it for now...stay cool and calm.....this is not over yet..and we must remain civil and considerate of one another.
Posted by: Beautiful Housewife, enjoying Penko electrical appliances"Overpwer Lunatic Assemblage":
1. The entire city of Philadelphia is now using Penko Power instead of electricity.
2. Penko Power is not real electricity, it is something else entirely.
3. Penko Power is able to run ordinary electrical appliances, at least for a while.
4. Ordinary appliances will run better, faster, more efficiently on Penko than on A.C. After a while they will break down and never run again.
5. During the startup period, the Penko Power company was replacing appliances that had failed on Penko. Once they got going, they stopped doing this.
6. The presence of the Penko grid will cause various sorts of distortions and disruptions in the mental functioning of the local residents. We have seen all kinds of bizarre ideations and behaviors on our travels so far and no doubt many of these are caused by the Penko effect.
7. Penko is spreading. Since we first noticed it in Philadelphia, we have seen Penko lines and Penko power in use in all sorts of places.
8. People seem to have no idea what's going on.
9. Various strange Penko appliances are beginning to show up all over the country, particularly in the backstage areas of the venues where our concerts have taken place. Nobody is quite sure what these appliances are for, where they come from, or where to put them.
In a separate item, there are those who have come to the conclusion that Jasper Fforde has been masquerading as Donald Fagen at various weddings and bas mitzvahs.
Posted by: Rose Darling, SeattleWow, so sorry about the postponement of the Toronto show. At least they're not cancelling all together, but you know, DanFans do get "amped" for the shows, days and even weeks in advance, so it's a let down from all the energy, know what I mean?
I've only posted here once before (yesterday), but I thought I would relay my thoughts about my first Dan show in Portland August 1st.
Yes, I did opt out on the Gorge show (I had a prior commitment) and drove to Portland (my hometown) for the Keller Aud. show. When I orginally purchased my tickets in July they were still booked to play at the Portland Coliseum. My thought was "Well, okay, I'll just deal with the fact that the Coliseum is a s---hole of a place to see a show and my seat is pretty bad for $75.00" (3/4's way back and off the floor). But I had the dough to spend and it's been a 25 year dream to see these guys, so I went for it. So you all know what happened next (what a blessing) and my pretty bad seats at the Coliseum turned into really great seats at Keller (18th row center). I guess it helped a bit (seating wise) that I went solo to the show as opposed to two or more, I might have been back farther. Ummm, yup, I went alone, left the hubby and daughter at home and road-tripped.
As an aside here, my husband is a graduate of Berklee with an arranging degree, and he loves the Dan. In fact his senior piece (in '88) at Berklee was his arrangement of "My Old School" with a 16 piece band; he wrote out each chart for each instrument and stressed about it for months. He says that arranging his tough but it's unbelievably tough when you're dealing with a Steely Dan song; it's very complex. Anyway, he "aced" it and he still has all the charts. He doesn't go to shows because he has a nasty habit of dissecting the music when he hears it so it's not fun for him, he can't relax and enjoy the sounds.
When I arrived at Keller, there were about a thousand people looking confused as to where to go to get their tickets, but the lines went pretty quick and I didn't get checked for any audio/video/digital; I brought the digi camera with me and so glad I did. I sat next to a physician and his wife (quite lovely people), the doc kept track by writing each down each song and told me after the show that his son was in the service overseas and is also a huge SD fan, his intent was to e-mail his son the set list. Nice gesture I must say. Anyway the show was just marvelous, the band was tight, Don and Walt sounded in fine form. The sound was a bit muddy, but nothing to complain about. It seemed to get better with the second half of the show...but it may have been the beers. Loved the lights and video clipage, not sure what film they were showing during "Haitian Divorce" but I'll do some investigating. Showing the lyrics during the "Steely Dan Show" was hysterical and people around me were singing along. Looked as though everyone including SD were having a great time. Worth the 4 hour drive (traffic in Seattle is a mess) and the dough. Actually, GETTING the beers was the big challenge, too many thirsty fans and not enough help. One highlight among many, was when the girls (especially the ever-so-awesome Cynthia Calhoun) would shake their booties while singing the chorus, "Babylon Sisters, shake it!" It was so funny I just cracked-up and you could hear the guys in the audience yelling at the top of their lungs, YEAAAAAAA! After the tune, Walter said "You know, this has got to be the biggest horn-dog crowd we've played to thus far on the tour". Too, too funny. Don & Walt looked a bit suprised, the crowd was giving them standing o's after the first five or six songs, and I even thought I saw Walt raising his hands up and down as if to say "that's very nice but please, sit down folks". Can someone who went to the Portland show confirm??
Since I was a first timer and I didn't want to see any set lists from the previous shows (I wanted to be surpised), I ended up embarrasing myself my yelling "Holy S--T!!" when they went into the beginning of Caves. It wasn't loud enough for the crowd to hear, but it certainly startled the doc and his wife enough that they both looked at me suddenly as if I soiled myself. Jeez. I've gleaned from the posts here that Caves is one they've not done live or they've not done it for many years. After the show I headed to the merch table (interesting folks who work the merch, don't you think?? Um, emphasis on "interesting") and bought a shirt for myself and one for my sweet husband for letting me go away for the weekend. Then, with camera in hand, I headed right for the stage door outside. Immediately I found out that I had just missed Don & Walt (damn), but the rest of the band came out and I got great chatting and photo op time in with Tom Barney, Cynthia Calhoun, and the Leonhart kids, Carolyn and Michael. VERY, VERY nice, cordial and very generous with their time. I dunno, maybe they took more time with me because I didn't ask the ridiculous "Dick Clark" questions like "So where are you kids off to next?" We chatted mostly about Portland and the N.W., they asked why I couldn't make it to the Gorge show; and they wanted know about Powell's (In case you don't know, Powell's is an incredibly large new and used book store that you could easily spend days in). I'll be printing out the photos from the show (with mat and frame, of course) and proudly display them in my office. Am considering the Vegas show next month, anyone else going?
I hope I didn't bore anyone to tears here, I may have been a bit wordy, however, it helped to write all of this; it made me remember a few things that I had forgot.
Thanks everyone for your always interesting posts, they've been a joy to read.
Take care, and those of you back East suffering with the power outage, stay safe.
You may hear from me again someday.
Posted by: Touch of Tuesday Weld, home at lastJust got in from toronto, what started out to be a perfect day turned into a total nightmare. The only good news is that the show will be rescheduled and not canceled, so we'll go back, jack and do it again.
For the rest of of the day I'll be zooming on a couch somewhere.
Posted by: Touch of Tuesday Weld, home at lastJust got in from toronto, what started out to be a perfect day turned into a total nightmare. The only good news is that the show will be rescheduled and not canceled, so we'll go back, jack and do it again.
For the rest of of the day I'll be zooming on a couch somewhere.
Posted by: hoops, Wow! T-Mo has "Deacon Blues' as a ring tone for my Motorola cell phone. OK, it's not quite the same as the real thing, but it's the spirit that counts, hey?
Posted by: scott, minnesotaThought I'd relay an amusing anecdote from a post-show DanFest gathering in St. Paul.
We went around the table at a local alehouse and said which of the concert songs we liked the best. One woman, who absolutely loved the concert but was somewhat new to Steely Dan music said, "I don't know the name of the song, but the one that had saxophone in the lyrics."
My forehead frowned, and I said that I didn’t remember hearing “Deacon Blues” in the concert. Her boyfriend, a much more experienced Dan Fan, insisted that it had been part of the set list. I didn’t press it too much, since I knew there was no way I could have missed hearing one of my favorites and had not been on any set list from any concert since the start of the tour. I asked her if she was sure she heard “saxophone” in the lyrics in the concert that evening (I thought that perhaps they had played it in the car on the way to the show and it stayed with them), and she was positive. I let it go, but was slightly puzzled.
Later at the Chicago DanFest post party the next day I relayed this story to another Dan Fan and he knew immediately where the confusion lie – “Things I Miss the Most”
The Talk!
The Sax!
Scott
Posted by: Fife, torontoJust thought those of you looking for information on the toronto show. Its definately not on tonight and they are rescheduling the date, this information from the molson amphitheatre at 1.30 pm, friday.Ugggg!!!!
Posted by: JP, pdxToo bad, Toronto! Just rotten luck.
I've always heard them referred too as "passing" tones. They pass from one chord to another. An example would be the first four chords in the intro to Deacon Blues. The fifth in the opening maj7 becomes the aug5th in the min7#5. In the second two chords I'm not sure if the first passing tone is played or not, but if it were it wouldn't sound too bad. As implied, it'd be the sixth in the second maj7th (maj7add6?) becoming the dominant seventh in the second min7#5. Anybody know a site for fledgling theory geeks?
Way back in school we read a book on jazz improvisations (Coker?) that said solos should be 50% familiar and 50% surprise (oughta add 10% for surprising mistakes, but anyway…) I think the formula transfers well to the way Steely Dan compose, at least on some songs. A song starts with the blues, beautifully re-voiced, but blues, nonetheless. The familiar draws you in until the surprise comes as the turnaround and/or the chorus. Their bridges (the best bridges in songwriting today, imo) are almost always surprising. The first time thru might have me thinking wtf?, but after a few hearings I think “It was ever thus.”
Actually, the more I think about this, the less I think there’s ANY formula involved in SD songs. The chord changes and voicings appeal to the head, but those melodies go straight to the heart. I have no idea how they do it, but I know what I like!
And Bill… you’re a bad, bad man. Brilliant, but bad.
Posted by: Joey , " What do y'all think? "
I think I shall have Veal Marsala for lunch today with a glass of Cabernet ( any '99 Reserve will do ) ...........and you ?
Joey !
Posted by: grippa48, "Attention all shoppers!
Its cancellation day :("
Im feelimg for ya Toronto
Sorry about it.
Now im wondering about sunday nite. If the airports don't don't get on schedule by Sunday.....PNC may be in jeopardy sunday nite.
Posted by: Jesse, TorontoNo Dan tonight. FUCK!! Oh well. It could be worse. They are just postponing it, and not cancelling it. I got this info by calling Ticketmaster. They always have a little annoying message at the beginning that usually says what big shows are coming up, but this time it said that Steely Dan is postponed indefinitely, and that a new date would be announced next week.
I would say, "at least I wasn't trapped in an elevator", although I would gladly trade 12 hours in an elevator if it meant I could see Steely Dan tonight. It is my favourite band, and I've never seen them before. What do y'all think?
Posted by: SDWEBDRONE, status of Toronto show uncertain - initially thought postponed to tonight, now uncertain. Safest bet is to check with venue throughout day. pass it on please - thanx SDWeb
Posted by: hoops, chicagoWas looking at the Molson Amph. page—looks like an awesome venue to Steely Dan at. Wish I could be there. http://www.hob.com/venues/concerts/molsonamp/ Their logo looks sorta like the DTE Engergy Center Logo aka Pine Knob.
I was thinking it would be ironic if Pine Knob was called DTE Energy Center in 2000 since that was where the power blew out briefly on part of the amps at the SD show. Of course, now DTE is REALLY getting name recognition with the power outage.
My youngest nephew is singing "Lunch With 'Nemo'." Obviously, he likes the song and movie a lot.
Wondering what impact the power outage will have on flights this weekend.
hoops
Posted by: The Bending End, RIA technique I hear more than once on EMG is what I will dub the '"Oh, shit!" punchline.' This is where the listener or subject of the song is lyrically drawn into an apparently harmless place, but then a punchline depicts something more dire.
For example, in The Last Mall:
"Roll your cart back up the aisle
Kiss the checkout girls goodbye
Ride the ramp to the freeway
("Oh, shit") Beneath the blood orange sky"
...and in Green Book:
"The festive icons along the way
The boardwalk, the lovers, ("Oh, shit") the house on fire"
...and in Blues Beach:
"Grab Big Dog a blanket
Angel of my heart
Things may get a whole lot worse
Before ("Oh, shit") suddenly falling apart"
The Blues Beach lyric is, at first, reminiscent of Any Major Dude's "Any minor world that breaks apart falls together again." You might think the lyric will resolve itself in a similar manner, but, instead, it departs from Dude's reassuring resolution and stays true to the apocalyptic feel of EMG.
Posted by: Joey,
" Personally I think it is so exciting to be able to be at a Live Steely Dan show - and groove with the tunes. But I do sort of agree with .............................."
Amen to THAT ----- I only wish I could attend more shows .
Here's hoping they add a third leg in November and play some arenas in the MidWest . What better way to spend an evening than enjoying drinks / chiba with friends/family and going to a Dan Show -- Truly a gift from Heaven .
Joey !
Posted by: lisa, philadelphiaI'm unable to use my tickets for The sat Aug 23rd show at the tweeter center in Camden(just outside Philadelphia) The are section 100(right up front) Row c(3rd row). Please let me know if you are interested.
thanks.
Lisa
Posted by: Bill, PittsburghDonald discusses the "common tone" technique in his educational video with Warren Bernhardt, although I don't think he calls it that. It's also interesting to see him demonstrate that he voices unexpected chord changes to feel natural on the piano, i.e., the chorus of Black Friday comes to mind (don't think he did that one in the video).
>>The common tone is one note that two chords have in common. So while Fagen and the girls would be holding a note on a common tone, the band changed chords or even keys. It's a sweet sound, and it brings the audience with you -- even if you're not a musician and you don't know the name of the composing technique you're hearing.
Also, I think Larry Carlton has openly acknowledged that the basic chord progression of "Room 335" was borrowed from Peg. Don't think he gave D&W formal co-writer credit, and it's just a chord change, not a melodic idea. There's more of Peg in that song that there is of Song for My Father in Rikki, though.
I hate to hear people judge Walter's singing ability on Slang alone, since it was written as a near-spoken talking blues. When he stays in his range he does fine in my book. As to his guitar work, he has a distinctive style that works very well without being flashy - he can play some quick runs but they tend to be chromatic as opposed to the bop-influenced stuff Denny Dias used to do and some of the touring guitarists have done '93-present. He rarely plays rock or blues cliches, but he has a bag of "Walter licks" to draw on just as Garcia had his "Jerry licks" and other musicians have relied on their own trademarks. It was said of Keith Moon that he was "the best Keith Moon-style drummer in the world" and you could apply that to Walter as well.
Finally, I had an idea for rekindling media attention to EMG - we should all send the lyrics to Godwhacker to every religious extremist we can think of with expressions of outrage, and let the CD burnings begin! Plenty of free press to be had, and Reprise certainly ain't gonna pay for any more promotional efforts.
Posted by: RobWired, ''Kansas City born and growing ...''I'm back in the KC area after a great but very busy time in Chicago, and have only just found the time to post my thoughts on the United Center show Aug. 8.
First off, I'll say it was a three out of four stars concert.
''Aja'' was a good opener (after the ''Cubanzo Chant'' prelude). It seemed an odd choice at first; the song has such a laid-back opening. But it is like a little suite with its simple but interlocking instrumental parts. Also, it gives drummer Keith Carlock a good introduction to the crowd.
Carlock is a good fit for Steely Dan. He is not, however, a monster drummer; he is, however, a very good drummer on a monster kit. Jazz drummer Lewis Nash does a whole lot more with a whole lot less. Messrs. Becker and Fagen have opened the door for this seemingly apples-and-oranges critique, given that the opening bass line for ''Rikki Don't Lose That Number'' is from Horace Silver's ''Song for My Father'' and ''Gaucho'' owes its piano and sax opening to Keith Jarrett's '' 'Long As Your Living Yours.''
Guitarist Jon Herrington did a very good job of walking a fine line between note-for-note solos and adding his own smart variations without losing the crowd, who would have loved to hear the guitar parts the way the are on record.
The Dan, however, lost part of the crowd on ''The Caves of Altamira.'' That was the break song for three people from our row and a couple of people from the row across from us.
It could be said that Walter Becker is one of the most underrated guitarists of our time, but he's rated about where he should be. He's no virtuoso, but he makes good choices, especially over modal chord changes. Tasteful stuff.
And those chord changes were played a lot in a 3 over 2 feel. I never realized how much Steely Dan uses that syncopation until I heard the songs in concert. It is one of Becker and Fagen's trademark sounds.
''Babylon Sisters'' suffered from a murky sound on the verses. It was hard to tell where the chords were. But the girls -- it's not demeaning to call them ''girls,'' Becker said -- had fun moving to the ''You've got to shake it'' line. They also did a good job with ''Parker's Band,'' which is one of my favorites, even though Carlock played it straight, forgoing the distinctive snare part from ''Pretzel Logic.''
But before the band played its nod to Bird, Donald said they were going to play a song from ''Pretzel Logic.'' Well, that set up a very vocal expectation for ''Rikki Don't Lose That Number'' from the people around us. That, and one guy who also shouted, ''Do It Again.'' (Wrong album, dude.) So ''Parker's Band'' was a little bit of a letdown for some, especially following ''Haitian Divorce'' and ''Things I Miss the Most.''
When ''Things ...'' started, the guy next to me thought he recognized it as an oldie. When he realized he didn't know the song, it was break time for him.
As for Walter singing, well, he shouldn't because -- he can't. The kindest thing you could say about him is he's a ''vocal stylist.'' His delivery is more spoken than sung, and when he does sing, he covers up unsure pitches by sliding to them or just going into that speaking thing again.
Donald was in fine form. So much of the Dan's sound comes from him: vocals, melodies, chord progressions. That, and one of those trademark arrangement sounds: the common tone.
The common tone is one note that two chords have in common. So while Fagen and the girls would be holding a note on a common tone, the band changed chords or even keys. It's a sweet sound, and it brings the audience with you -- even if you're not a musician and you don't know the name of the composing technique you're hearing.
The unsung heroes of all of this are the members of the horn section. They, as much as anyone, are responsible for making the Steely Dan sound happen live.
One thing the Dan could do is balance the setlist better, keeping in mind that there are some in the audience -- like from this guestbook -- who know every album cut and some who only know the hits. For instance, they did make a good choice to go directly from ''Janie Runaway'' into ''Hey Nineteen.'' That recognizable guitar opening got the crowd going after a song some didn't know.
We had very good seats, aisle, Row A, Section 209, looking right at the stage. There were empty $85 seats in the section below us, though. Guess some people didn't want to pay that much to sit in back. And for those that did, they had the soundboard in their way. We couldn't tell if those seats were on risers, but having to look over the soundman would still be distracting.
The people on the lower level were definitely on their feet for the two-song encore. And the guy next to me yelled, ''That's where my father's from'' when the line about Gaudalajara came up during ''My Old School.'' Or, the next time around, ''I've been there!'' His wife stood up and started dancing. She was enjoying herself so much, no one seemed to mind, although the guy next to me good-naturedly would get her to sit down. Oh, and it's a good thing Donald sang, ''Is there gas in the car? Yes, there's gas in the car!'' earlier in the show during ''Kid Charlemagne.'' That guy sitting next to me? Those were the lines he sang when the song started. And he sang 'em just like on the record.
I had never seen Steely Dan before, and the Chicago concert was a treat, even though the boys are no longer vital shapers of the music scene as they once were. Back in the day, a lot of musicians like Larry Carlton were putting out Steely Dan-flavored albums. Just listen to ''Room 335,'' which takes its name from the Gibson 335 guitar Carlton was playing. ''Peg,'' anyone?
Nonetheless, musical architects Becker and Fagen do a good job of constructing new songs, if not as memorable ones, from the building materials they can rely on.
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, Rome, Italyhey Suedave - thanks for reaffirming something I really appreciate about the Bluebook: there are lots of varying opinions posted here, yes, a lot by ole persnickety me, I'll cop to that, but generally everyone treats each other with deference and respect, so thanks to all of you really.
Now, for this morning's persnickety comment: musicians like the SD touring band are the top folks on their particular axes, there are NO flies on anybody up there, they are an elite group, they're Special Forces. Now apart from Don & Walt, most of these guys perform live gigs a couple hundred nights a year. There's a reason why Keith Carlock plays with that kind of command, the guy's in form, isn't it obvious? So strangely enough, D & W, being the superstar legends they are at this point, play farrr less live gigs than the other players and are at the higher risk for screwing up. And when they play the high profile venues in NY & LA, you can BET there are tons of pro musicians in the audience, many people that they've played with and employed, they said as much 3 years ago at the Universal Amphitheatre dates. Can you imagine the pressure to bring their best game to the field? It's huge. And they're not just playing three chord rock, this stuff is sophisticated s**t. Take all that and now you tell me if they're just up there doin loosey goosey summer party rock. No freakin way. It's about professional pride.
Posted by: suedave, here at the western worldLove to read so many opposite views on this board - it's what adds spice to life, yes? I'm somewhat surprised to see some of you so persnickity about perfection at a live concert. I've never understood how a performer could even stand being under all those lights - yikes. Now throw in the heat - and a doobie or two, it probably makes your mind just melt. Personally I think it is so exciting to be able to be at a Live Steely Dan show - and groove with the tunes. But I do sort of agree with Rajah about Parker's Band - it didn't work in that format for me but maybe it will next time I see 'em. I figure I'll at least be past the drooling stage at my 2nd show.
I went to a BBQ at a friends house shortly after EMG was released. After I put the CD on we were yakking and laughing and drinking tripical drinks unfortunately in the next room....I would have been happy to sit in front of the speakers and just listen. Anyway one of my friends blew me away when he said - sounds like Steely Dan alright! It was Slang of Ages, must have been the sax or the drugs.
JaneLightning - nice to see you delurk! Going to Roseland per chance? Say hi to Al.
Posted by: hoops, Thanks for the updates. Glad to hear the Toronto Show is rolling over to tomorrow night. Would be a shame if it had to wait or be cancelled, not to mention to tear down the set and bring it back if they couldn't have done it tomorrow.
Looking forward to Boston.
jim
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Posted by: Grippa48, NJMan I would be real bummed if i had tickets for the Toronto show tonite
Posted by: Chloe, Still in A/C in NCWow. I sure am thinking about all you folks in the Northeast US and Toronto. The scenes from NYC look horrendous! Here's hoping Don, Walt, and the rest of the gang are all staying nice and cool in Toronto, with some nice beverages of choice.
Blackout party in the Green later, kids?
Posted by: father william, Boulder, CoA Toronto based web site that I use at:
http://forums.xandros.com
is off line at 4:46 PM, Mountain Daylight Time.
Posted by: Rose Darling, Hi Everyone!
I'm new to the board, but I just went to cnn.com to catch some news and there's a major blackout in NYC, Cleveland, Detroit and most surprisingly...Toronto where SD is performing this evening. Any word about that show being cancelled, or is it too soon to tell? Am sure some of the fine folks who post here are also experiencing problems at this moment, hope all is well, and you'll soon have power.
Posted by: Not Encouraging about, TorontoI called Molson Amph. and the phone just rings.
Posted by: Connie, NO CAKC-
That was then, this is now - Jeff Baxter is a Republican defense analyst at the present moment.
I wonder if anyone calls him Skunk in congress.
Posted by: Joey,
The BLACKOUT hit Toronto too .......................
I hope the venue has a backup system or else no Dan tonight .
Shiver ...........................................
J.
Posted by: Kid Clean, Bright Lights-Big City
Hope all in the blackout, (is it still a blackout during daylight hours?), are well and unharmed. Good vibes out to those with tix for tonight's show, I hope you still get to see it.
One J. 'S.' Baxter seems a little full of himself in that interview, can anyone confirm or deny that?
KC
Posted by: Little Wild One, the lights are on hereMan! Scary shit...especially since many of us are headed for NYC next week.
And the Danizens in Toronto must feel really cursed. First SARS and now a black out! Damn!
Blackout party anyone?
Posted by: Big Fan, At home - AC working fineAlthough none of you can read this, hope all is well in NYC and TO. Good chance the concert won't happen tonight.
Posted by: Gretchen, work, alas but listening to AjaHEY RUSS-
Far be it for me to be a home wrecker, but that would be a dream come true........I think D is my soulmate.
Posted by: Big Fan, at work - thinking about soaking up some rays for onceA little pre concert interview from our friends up north. Question is the Sun or the Star the better newspaper in TO?
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1060684976027
Posted by: Grippa48, Rindy,
Sorry for the misunderstanding.....N.P.
Grippa48
Posted by: Hank, Jeff Baxter interview 1992
Question: What is your favorite Steely Dan piece? Doobie Brothers song?
JBaxter: My favorite Steely Dan piece would be Razor Boy or Charlie Freak, and Doobie Bros would be How Does The Fool Survive or, Neal's Fandango.
Question: What's Skunk Baxter's favorite guitar?
JBaxter: My own! It's a Roland GR 505. Made out of plexiglass. With Skunk-o-sonic pickups!
Question: What's the best way for a novice to learn about sequencing?
JBaxter: Number 1, to read the many periodicals dedicated to home and studio recordings. Such as Electronic Musician Mix Magazine is another, and Home Recording Magazine. Also, number 2, borrow someone's sequencing program and see if you like it. Ya gotta spend the time. If you find one you like, then just go out and buy it!
Question: Hey, did you go to Mt. Whitney high?
JBaxter: No I didn't. I went to Taft School in Watertown, Conn. I'm an ex-preppie!
Question: When you played with Steely Dan did you record any tracks live other than Bodhisattva?
JBaxter: We recorded every show we did on cassette. Bodhisattva was taken from a cassette.
Question: With as much as everyone longs for new Steely Dan music, why can't Becker, Fagen, yourself and the others get together to lay down some tracks? With Donald touring it seems like he's ready, or is he?
JBaxter: Good question! You never know, anything's possible!
Question: Hi Jeff! I'm curious to know how you feel about today's music.
JBaxter: I think on the good side the music seems to be much less produced, much simpler, more basic, and more accessible. It has a raw feel to it that I really enjoy. On the bad side, I think there are too many musicians who think that all they need is hair extensions and some nice close from Melrose Avenue. They expect stardom and instant respect. Maybe they should think about it less as a career and more as a reason to live.
Question: Jeff - Why hasn't Steely Dan ever toured?
JBaxter: Steely Dan toured for almost 3 years, we played concerts in places like Portland Oregon, LA, Boston, Chicago and Eastern Texas, among other places. We even played the Rainbow in London.
Question: Do you keep in touch with the members of Ultimate Spinach?
JBaxter: I talk to the dummer occasionally. Err -drummer Russ Levine is his name, and he is a producer at NBC television.
Question: What was your basis to quit Steely Dan & go to the Doobies?
JBaxter: I felt that the direction that Steely Dan was headed was much more of a studio and not live-oriented in concept. I think Walter and Donald wanted to carry the studio concept to its "nth" degree. I joined the Doobie Bros because I felt that there was an incredible amount of raw talent and had a bit of a vision of what that band might become. When I asked Michael McDonald to join the Doobie Bros, I felt that vision turn into a reality. What do you think?
Posted by: Rindy, Grippa,
I was not criticizing you - you misread my post, or where the emphasis on "suck" was
I was saying that like you, I was disappointed in how Ticketbastard could put better tix on sale at the very end after us hardcore fans had already purchased ours
Sorry if you felt slighed by my post
Hope to see you & other metro area fans at PNC this Sun.
-Rindy
Posted by: Kay Ryan, You're the King of the World ..... so far as we know....
Hoops, we are indebted to you for getting us started and pumping up our enthusiasm for the concert. You're responsible for all of us meeting each other -- which we really grooved on, as everyone took an instant liking to everyone else, and we laughed and played until about 2 am at some joint after the concert.
We're so sorry that you couldn't make it to Cleveland, and we do hope to try to meet you again, Dude. There WILL be another time.......
Hey, if you ever decide to come to the Land of Cleve again, be sure to email us before you come, so somebody can put you up. OK? OK.
Yours in Dandom,
Kay Ryan
Posted by: davis, BostonRazor Boy
Did say Seat Numbers, but you are right tough angle.. I have sat in Row B and F in section 2 before, and the sounds wasnt good that close. I rememebr watching Walter strum his guitar and I would hear the note for 2 seconds by the time it got to me. Converesly, I sat in the VIP seats in 2000 TvN and the sounds was amazing.. Sound is more important to me than being close.
Posted by: Russ, hey Grettchen,
Keep it up, your lusting for Don F. online may yet pay off and get him to dump the Mrs.. it wouldn't be the first time something like that happpened to our boys! 8-)
Posted by: Grippa48, Rindy,
Thanks for the compliment! Geeez I was just trying to help.
I waited on line for tickets at the PNC box office for over 3 hours the day they went onsale to get the tickets I got which are about the same great seating location as the ones I was referring to. But im not pissed......I was just trying to get info for someone to get some good seats. Im just to help another danfan that wants tickets.
Just trying to help....Sorry!
Posted by: DanFanDan, Home at LastRindy...regarding the prices...they are pricey!
It is like you say...~$35 for a T shirt....~$30 for a hat...$50+ for a sweatshirt...on up!
Nothing good is free I guess...(he coyley says as he takes another swig of his free stainless steel 2003 tour Steely Dan coffee mug...)
Posted by: Razor-boy, Mass.Davis: I'm curious as to what seat did ticketbastard spit out at you. Being from the area, I'm sure your familiar with the Tweeter ctr., A sec.3 row AA in the high 30's or 40's is way too far off on the "wing" and the view as well as the sound usually suck. I like your row K, front/center is nice, we will be in sec. 1 row G. with only a couple of small rows in front of us I'm pumped and have never been down this close at this venue.
Dave: What do mean by the "Boston Rag is from NY"?
2 days and counting!
Posted by: Rindy, Gearing Up For PNC"Steely Dan.com is posting the NEW tour merchandise. But, sadly it is not for sale."
For those of you have been to shows on this tour, what have the prices been like for these goodies?
I think I paid 30 or 35 for a t-shirt on last tour...
-Rindy
Posted by: Rindy, "I went on Ticketmaster this morning and saw there were some great seats availiable for the PNC concert in N.J. sunday nite. Thats strange, because for weeks they only had 'nose bleeder" seats left. Now why all of a sudden they have great seats availiable....ones in the front section. Go check and see if anyone is interested.
Very strange....very strange."
Yes, you're right, Grippa
I noticed a similar thing w/PNC on the last tour
I think the explanation is that certain seats are held for VIPs or for AMEX Gold Card holders and these are held till right before the concert and then they're put on general sale at that point.
It basically sucks - like you, these are much better than the seats I bought through ticket******* on the day they went on sale.
-Rindy
Posted by: davis, BostonJust for shitz and giggles I went to ticketmaster today to see if I could still get tix for Mansfield Ma on Saturday.. Much to my surprise, not only were seats available but it came up with Section 3 Row AA, Pretty damn good for 2 days before the show I was shocked. Too bad i payed top dollar through an intermediary to sit Section 2 row K... Anyway, plently left if you guys are still looking.
Posted by: RCray, NYCSteely Dan.com is posting the NEW tour merchandise. But, sadly it is not for sale.
Posted by: Gretchen, pulling my hair outHelp!! Some of us were not cut out for the corporate world! 16 years of this is taking it's toll. Everything must go or I will have to! God, I hate middle aged yuppies. The only think keeping me somewhat sane is music and painting. Is there a fest before Roseland? How do I find out the details? I'm going Fri. the 12th. Hope to see some of my chat friends there. Hi, Grippa and Peter Q.
Posted by: Grippa48, N.J. The only fest I know in the area is in NYC....nothing in NJ. But keep on checking back things may change.
I went on Ticketmaster this morning and saw there were some great seats availiable for the PNC concert in N.J. sunday nite. Thats strange, because for weeks they only had 'nose bleeder" seats left. Now why all of a sudden they have great seats availiable....ones in the front section. Go check and see if anyone is interested.
Very strange....very strange.
Hope to see yas all there sunday,
Grippa48
Posted by: Peter Q, BrooklynNo fest at the PNC? Jones and Roseland I know about, I'd like to try to get to all four if I can. Although it looks like it'll be the same show 4 times. Anyone know if they rent golf carts yet to get up that crazed hill at the PNC??
Posted by: Honeybun, kinda cheerfull, a little younger...GRETCHEN: Sorry I keep missing you. Being in the UK I usually post when you guys are probably at work and when you guys are chatting i'm in bed. It sucks. I would love to be able to chat although I can't get the chatroom to work.
Honeybun
Posted by: Touch of Tuesday Weld, 45 minutes from TorontoWell...FINALLY...the big day is here. The anticipation is killing me. This will be my 4th SD concert and I'm just as excited as the 1st time in '93. The seats keep getting better each time, moved up from row 11 last tour to row 8 this time around. I won't rest until I finally snag the elusive front row and centre seats (a girl can dream.)
It's shaping up to be a perfect day, and this evening the gods will be smiling down on us (from the stage of the Molson Ampitheatre).
Posted by: Big Fan, at work - it's sunny Review of Clevland show:
http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/entertainment/106085387768850.xml
Sounds like almost idillic weather for Saturday in Boston!
Posted by: Gary, N.J.So I guess no one is organizing a dan fest before the PNC Bank gig on sunday.....huh? I did find out the parking lots open at 3pm on sunday in the afternoon incase anyone wants to come early.
Posted by: Mike B., baking in the land of famous potatoesAlthough our boys have sworn that they would not return to Annandale until Califonia tumbles into the sea, pehaps an invitation to perform in the much acclaimed, Frank Gehry designed Fisher Center for the Perform Arts would lure two of Bard's most illustrious alumni back to the campus for an intimate evening. I'd love to hear the follwing setlist:
Green Flower Street
Dr. Wu
Pearl of the Quarter
Barrytown
Fire in the Hole
What a shame about me
Rikki
Rose Darling
Things I Miss the Most
Swingtime
West of Hollywood
New Frontier
Green Book
Caves
Gaucho
Snowbound
Third World Man
Lunch with Gina
On the Dunes
The Nightfly
Any Major Dude
Home at last
Florida Room
Pretzel Logic
Maybe after resting a year or so following this tour, D. would consider resurrecting the NYRSR for such a show. We can always dream, can't we?
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, Abruzzi, ItalyGood point Bendy - performance rushes by so fast and can be so nerve racking especially when you don't do it much or, like our boys, only every few years. It's a lot like being a professional athlete, you have to be in constant training to do your best. The ability to relax at the most demanding moment is crucial. And when you are at the center of everyone's attention, it's compounded. So if Walter misses the voicing on a chord or note, it's like, no big deal, most folks don't even notice. But when DF mangles a few words, it sticks out like the proverbial sore thumb. So maybe I've been a little hard on Donald and his presentation so far but, hey, it comes with the territory.
Posted by: The Bending End, RINY Daily News article reprinted in this morning's Providence Journal in anticipation of Saturday evening's Tweeter Center show: http://www.projo.com/music/content/projo_20030814_fagen.3c4e.html
Unfortunately, we can't make it to SD's appearance at the Tweeter Center this year, as we did for the Y2K tour. My wife and kids and I will be on a plane headed for North Dakota that evening. We will, however, be at Oakdale Sept. 10th.
It's sounding like everything is more finely tuned now. As has been mentioned before, maybe a new twist will be added for the second leg. Looking forward to it.
I mentioned a couple of months ago that I'd be playing Here At The Western World at a piano recital that both my son and I performed in last week. It went pretty well, but I must say [as essentially a non-musician] I can now more appreciate anyone who gets up in front of a crowd to play music. I was literally shaking during the first verse. It all went by so fast that I felt like maybe I had played it way too fast out of nervousness, but when we went home and watched what my wife had videotaped it seemed fine. Hats off to all performing musicians!
Bill
Posted by: Beerberian, @itaujourd'hui , pour le déjeuner Une prodigue enfoncer de Romarin & ail focaccia à thon , sucrée poivron , émaner oignon & à plat vantail persil
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, Abruzzi, ItalyJesse & Monique - it's wonderful to hear my Euro neighbors reach the Bluebook. What you say Jesse is very insightful. Yes, come think of it, there are certain components to Steely Dan's music which are very simple, almost childlike, as in the intro to Blues Beach, which I think is avery humorous song on its face. Then, quick as a flash, the song blossom into multi-layered mess-terpiece, if you follow my meaning. Italia vi saluti.
Posted by: Jessy, Spain
Monique, I think as you that they are two extraordinary beings in the simplicity, are able to turn the habitual thing something very special, magical that transports to you through music.
Posted by: Jessy, Spain
Posted by: Monique, France
I liked much the interview to Steely in the taxi. We see much of his personality, know a little more them. They are unique.
Posted by: Monique, France
I liked much the interview to Steely in the taxi. We see much of his personality, Know a little more them. They are unique.
Posted by: LiveWire, In the gift shop"No I'm never gonna do it without my dung on." (or in, as the case may be... yuck!)
Toronto's Contraceptive Museum:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20030813/wl_canada_afp/canada_museum_sex_030813145331
When this exhibit travels they could call it "Where the rubber meets the road"
Posted by: bluprintblu, down on the bottomGretchen, most thanks for being concerned galpal....reference to 1st cut on Walter Becker's 11 tracks of whack....it's a good place...peace
Posted by: DACW , Gretchen: Cuban breeze, mandarin, yellow fever, green earring...Now we know where how their songs are inspired!!!
Posted by: angel, I don't have the CD near me, but "Shame" is one of the last 3 songs. It is in that area of the show, where they interview Pete Fogel. My memory says it is the 2nd to the last song, since they finish with "Pretzel Logic". Hope that helps.
Posted by: gypsyqueeninafairytale, Actually,I have a short attention span....probably A.D.D. plus being a Gemini.
Posted by: Rindy, Big AppleI have the DVD of the PBS show - I'll have to re-watch it; don't remember seeing them perform "Shame"
I saw them perform WOH, but not GA on '00 tour
Anyone have any clue why they never play TAN live?
Would love to also here EMG live on current tour also - with Weiskopf wailing away on sax
-Rindy
Posted by: Bill, PittsburghKudos to ElSupremo and Andy Metzger for the incredible treasure trove of info on that complete track list! It's easy to get lost in the lyrics to the many unreleased songs. Some of you may have heard these, and I know they would be illicit to circulate, but just reading the lyrics to them gives us some insight into EMG and other final official products.
For instance, "Were You Blind That Day," an early draft of "Third World Man," is downright chilling in our current international climate.
The lyrics of WB's "Ghost of Hipness Past" and "Sanpaiku" have some echoes of Slang of Ages. The latter also reminds me of "Teahouse on the Tracks." Not sure which came first. D&W trade ideas all over the place and, for instance, the sci-fi theme of "Hat Too Flat" would have fit neatly into Kama.
Some of the lyric transcriptions are probably open to debate, such as Wet Side Story.
There are a whole lot of titles that represent mysterious songs written in their ABC contract writer days of 1968-71. I remember reading an interview where they claim they would make up titles of non-existent songs and send them in for a quick, paltry paycheck, so I suspect some of these titles may not actually have ever been attached to songs.
Plenty of fodder here for us fanatics. Highly recommended.
Posted by: lyke wise, Mr. Fagen's voice is every bit as good as it was 25 years ago. The concert at Blossum was out of this world. Carlock played like he was from another planet.
Love Becker on the cd but he was uninspiring live.( too bad )
Best song was Aja. With My Old School a close second.
Posted by: Dave, againHere's a nice piece of trivia Zim. "Boston Rag" takes place in New York.
Posted by: Dave, "Gaslighting" was played quite often early on on the 2000 tour. WOH was also.
Posted by: Mike, Louisville, KYJust a reminder:
You can check if ANY song has been played live since 74 on my track guide at:
http://www.andymetzger.com/album/complete/
Haven't updated for the 03 tour yet. Still gathering data. ;-)
El Sup
Posted by: DAVIS, BOSTONRindy
They did play "Shame" at PBS Live,, good stuff..
Do I make you "Randy" Rindy?
Posted by: Rindy, Big AppleI don't think they've ever played "Shame About Me" live, at least that I can recall
"Gaslighting" was played on PBS special and possibly at a few dates on Y2K tour, but I'm not sure of this
-Rindy
Posted by: dantastic, Dayton, Oh.Denton...I was at the Columbus show on the 9th. From what I've read
here, the set list was the same as in Chicago. Perhaps your wife wanted to hear 'Shame about me' and 'Gaslighting Abbey' so much that
she thought they played them. I kind of felt the same way about 'Show
biz kids' and 'Pretzel logic'. Alas, they did not play any of those
songs...still a spectacular show!!!
Posted by: Scott P. "Steely" Dann, Cleveland, OHI forgot one cool thing about last night's Cleveland show.
Just as Josie was kicking into high gear, those of us on the lawn were treated to the most beautiful red-orange full moon coming out of the sky.
Not as eerie as when the power went out during Chain Lightning an the NY R&S Review, but pretty cool nonetheless.
SD just has a way of setting the tone.
Posted by: Zim, Prepping for our roadtrip up to the Tweeter Center in Mansfield, MA and wondering if anyone could clue me into a good site to print out some Dan trivia for our entertainment? On second thought, perhaps we should save the trivia to use as a drinking game once we arrive. Hmmmm...anyway, your help would be appreciated! Thanks
Posted by: Meal Reviewer, CaliBarna hide mi computadora cuando I see pic de "Zellie" en STEELO DONFAGEN website. Holy smokestack! What lungs this girl hav! Jesus Cristo de Dios! Barna say yo no puedo mirar nada mas!
Posted by: Faitfull Reader, ...Gretchen knows her stuff about drinking:
There are two types of Cuban breeze's listed in bartenders manuals:
#1:
http://www.deathring.us/drinking/mixed/cocktails/content/cubanbreeze1.html?PHPSESSID=7e15f96d04d30eae7c5db49dbccf39c8
#2:
http://www.deathring.us/drinking/mixed/cocktails/content/cubanbreeze2.html
Perhaps St. Al will have to update his cookbook and add the food and drink from the solo albums as well
Posted by: Gretchen, mixing up Cuban Breezes, at the ManateeTO HEY MIKE:
This is the Gretchen version of a Cuban Breeze, however there is no rum, as it does not mix well with high temps and humidity, and I'm not particularly a rum fan:
1. Absolut Mandarin (as much as you please)
2. 1 part lemonade
3. 1 part limeade
4. shake well with ice
5. twist of lemon, or lime
Omit the lime juice only and it becomes a "Yellow Fever".
Omit the lemonade only and it's a "Green Earrings."
You can use rum if you so desire, but it won't be authentic.
TO BEAUTIFUL HOUSEWIFE:
When did you witness mrs. being mean to Don?
I'm astounded that Donald would be treated that way. I'ts very sad, too, because he's such a shy, sensitive creative type, and seems like a nice man. He needs a little nurturing. How anyone could be abusive to him is puzzling and horrifying. I just love him. He needs a Cuban breeze and some good conversation.
Posted by: DanFanDan, Home at LastHey HeyMike!
Last recollection was that a Cuban Breeze was basically a rum and coke, with a lime twist? But I post that for my own education...so I too can be corrected and know for sure going forward.
I am going to see Bruce on Saturday in SF. I was wondering if anyone else out there was doing the Dan Springsteen tour! Have fun!
WooHoo!
Posted by: Ilyse , Chicago/"Peg" blaring in "Nip Tuck"!!!Nip-Tuck (FX TV) -- Agreeably, a rather horrendous show, but last night there was a party scene and "Peg" was blaring -- loud and clear -- I believe almost the entire song and you could clearly hear every word.
Posted by: Ilyse , Chicao/Peg blaring in "Nip Tuck"!!!Nip-Tuck (FX TV) -- Agreeably, a rather horrendous show, but last night there was a party scene and "Peg" was blaring -- loud and clear -- I believe almost the entire song and you could clearly hear every word.
Posted by: Joey, " Do you know anyone with a short attention span who loves SD? "
Priceless Rajah .
Posted by: HeyMike, approaching the standDoes anyone know how to make a cuban breeze?? Gretchen?? I'm having a small gathering this weekend and I wanted to serve some up??
Going to see Springsteen tonight at Sox park BTW.
HeyMike
Posted by: Scott P. "Steely" Dann, Cleveland, OHRobin already gave you a basic rundown on the show. I agree with everything she said, especially Herrington. He was amazing. Some other highlights for me:
Opening with Aja was incredible. I never thought it would translate that well live. I remember kind of a "half-baked" version of this to start 1993.
This was definately a Scam-Aja-Gaucho review, as only two songs were from earlier. Kind of a nice contrast from the equally enjoyable Y2K show which was much more Katy Lied, Countdown and Can't Buy a thrill.
Black Cow was unbelievably good, as were the standards from every SD show I've seen, (Kid Charlemagne, Josie, FM, and My Old School). Babylon Sisters really shook it, also.
Of the new stuff, Slang of Ages was the highlight.
I've been to every tour from NY R&S Review with the exception of 1994. This is probably the best I've seen Walter. Really getting into the vocals.
Donald's voice was right on the money, his only lyrical miss was the aforementioned Hey 19.
I thought Home at Last was the one weak moment. There was just one note in the chorus, that sounded like a CD skipping. It was probably just different from my studio expectations.
I thought Mr. Parker's Band was great, after reading the posts I was surprized.
I took my daughters and my six-year-old learned how to answer the age old question: Is there gas in the car? I take pride in exposing them to the important things in life, and Steely Dann is definately one of them.
Scott P. "Steely" Dann
Posted by: Big Fan, at work - maybe it will stop raining tomorrowReview of Cleveland Concert:
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/news/6521291.htm
De La Soul using Steely Dan riffs live:
http://www.richmond.com/ae/output.cfm?ID=2604746&vertical=ae
Looks like the weather for Saturday at the Tweeter center is going to be perfect - in fact I see two weeks of no rain - no way! SD brings the good weather east with them.
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, Abruzzi, ItalyThank you Robin, excellent commentary, made me feel like I was there.
Posted by: Robin (DartWoman), NE OhioI'm still riding on the euphoric state after last night's show.
Apologies in advance for any typos I might not catch. I'm a bit sleep-deprived this morning.
The Blossom Steely Dan Show '03 began with a friendly and fun gathering of like-minded individuals at the bar in Blossom's restaurant. So good to know I am not the only nut out there! What great people we met -- I hope we can reconnect in the future! It was a beautiful night, so we sat outside and took in the atmosphere. Even the menu items now sported Dan song titles. Could it get better? Yes.
I won't reiterate the setlist, just add my own comments.
Donald sounded great, and seemed well in command of his own performance as well as of the orchestra. Yes, he started to come in a line early with "Sweet things" on Hey 19. But he caught himself and cracked a smile immediately. Perhaps the audience singing along caught him off-guard. I enjoyed watching him. He dedicated TIMTM to his family and made a point of mentioning that they live in Cleveland.
Walter gets this look on his face when he is playing -- it's almost like he goes to another place. His guitar is the first thing I remember about Steely Dan; the first thing that caught my ear, hooked it and reeled me in for good. He was at the top of his game last night. He looked like he was enjoying singing and crowd responded in kind. No mass exodus in my section. Walter has declared Blossom as a "groovalicious" venue. I assume we'll start seeing that in their advertising soon.
Jon Herington seems to nail every solo he does. He is such an incredible player with such a mastery of his guitar.
The horns were awesome, of course. There is so much talent there and they have their individual pieces fitting together so well that it leaves me feeling that I've just heard the best there is. Cornelius is so laid back he is almost the antithesis of Keith Carlock. Can anyone get so many different sounds out of a trombone as Jim Pugh? I know I never heard them if there is anyone.
Keith Carlock -- he did not disappoint or leave me feeling that there is the least bit of hype in the descriptions of his playing. Such energy, perfect timing, it seems like he must have additional arms and legs in order to hit so many drums or cymbals. I hope they have worked out a long-term deal!
Tom Barney was located where I could see him this time. He lays down those bass notes and just cruises. He is such a fantastic player for the band.
Ted Baker is incredible on the keyboards. He just moves from instrument to instrument and makes it his own.
Donald and Walter both referred to "The Girls" as Zellie, Flex and Callie in different parts of the show. We already know they can sing and are so beautiful, but they all have such energy. Cynthia often has this look like she's just seen someone in the audience she knows. She breaks into a huge smile and waves.
When they weren't playing, the various players seemed to be truly enjoying the show. It didn't seem like they were there doing their respective jobs, but felt like they were a group of great musicians who had gotten together to perform for their pleasure and the audience's. A lot of smiles, a lot of grooving to the music.
Pete Fogel in the front row snapping pictures. I had to rub my eyes to make sure I wasn't seeing things.
The crowd was very much into the show. I heard singing from the audience several times. In addition to my own, that is. We had great people sitting near us and that just added to the total wonderful experience.
A magical night for me. Teh only bad thing was that Hoops didn't make the gathering. I hope your car's fixed and you made it back home safely. Hopefully next time, Hoops!
Posted by: Ardahl, DenmarkConcerning the 4:40 "fart"-sound in Godwhacker. The same sound is on Blues Beach at 0:18..... Sorry if i ruin your listening experience.
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, Abruzzi, ItalyRikki - thank you for your comments on Don's voice, glad he sounded great last night in my old hometown. Clean and crisp, yes, that's our Donald at his best. I'm hoping he turns it on now that he's a few weeks into this tour. I've seen Donald click into a place where he just carries the damn band, slammin the Rhodes like it's a trap set and using that energy to push off on and wail out. C'mon Donny, we're rootin for ya.
Posted by: Beautiful Housewife, still groovin' in the suburbsAnnouncement of concern to all multi-show attendees:
We know you want to show your support for the Steely Dan Bandwagon 2003, but it's not like these guys ASKED you to follow them around from one city to the next. Do you think they're doing this for your convenience? The songs are difficult enough to play without having to inject some "variety" for your pleasure. Just enjoy the privelege you have (had) of being in the same room again with the world's most talented living songwriters! Jeesh!
Announcement to wistful women who lust after Donald:
Don't get all misty-eyed about the Lib-monster's being there for Donald and you're not. The times I've seen her, she's been lude, crude and abrasive - to Donald!
Posted by: Anne, MiamiYou continue singing those histories. They are so sincere
Posted by: Anne, MiamiYou continue singing those histories. They are so sincere
Posted by: Anne, MiamiYou continue singing those histories. They are so sincere.
Posted by: John, New York
I'm European. I didn't Know your music, but now that I Know it I can't live without listening to your music.
Posted by: steelydoubt, wilst scouring a phish satlist archive i found this
"Saturday, May 14, 1988
SpringFest, Goddard College, Plainfield, VT
Fire, I Didn't Know, Halley's Comet > Light Up or Leave Me Alone, You Enjoy Myself, The Lizards, Big Black Furry Creature from Mars, Jesus Just Left Chicago, Fluffhead, Alumni Blues, Take the 'A' Train
Show Notes: Fire was dedicated to Bobby Brown (Tim Rogers); JJLC subsequently featured Bobby on harmonica. Also "guesting" on the song was three year old Cameron McKinney, whom Trey announced was playing guitar. Halley's Comet and I Didn't Know featured Nancy Taube adding additional vocals; he also played drums on I Didn't Know. After Light Up, Trey introduced the crowd to Marley and sang to her both before and during YEM. BBFCFM was dedicated to Donald Fagen and Walter Becker of the band Steely Dan. Take the 'A' Train, which was preceded by HYHU teases, featured Carl Boyle on saxophone."
a plesant suprise, now i must find a copy of this and listen to it.
( http://www.mockingbirdfoundation.org/setlists/1988.html )
Posted by: angel, Rajah: The Michael and Fredo comment....2 points!
I agree with you. All artists go out and try to do their best, but reality hits and mistakes are sometimes made. Cut some slack here.
I remember seeing a tribute band that had a musical train wreck (the performer's words, not mine) on stage and I still loved it. Don't take it all too seriously.
My husband loves live television for the same reason. Anything can and will happen and you just roll with the punches and enjoy.
Posted by: Rikki, Just back from Blossom show. Talk of Don's voice failing is false. He sounded great. This is the best Steely Dan Orchestra that I've seen. Excellent players all around. Get tickets to future shows. You'll be glad you did.
Don and Walt. Keep writing and touring. It will keep you young. And do it together. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
Posted by: Chip Boldt, Cuyahoga Falls, OhioJust got back from the show at Blossom in Cuyahoga Falls. Of all the shows I have seen since '93, this was the best. The boys were very tight and Donald's vocals strong and crisp and clear. The back-up singers are tremondous. The drummer Keith, was outstanding, especially on the drum solo.There was a nice mix of songs, especially ones not heard live before. Wpould have liked to hear a few from Donald's solo works but maybe next time. Fans going to future shows are in for an awesome show!
Chip
Posted by: oleander, counting daysDon--Please do. I'm ON that tip. And thanx; I was afraid to embarrass myself by mentioning your other book when I forgot the title....
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, Abruzzi, ItalyAngelbaby - I'm very much looking forward to the Universal dates and grooving with all our wonderful and loyal LA Fandom, I love you guys cause we love the same thing. But wait a minute, a concert is where you show your live chops can be as great as your studio chops. That's what you are shooting for as a performer. Now maybe you fall short but you must NOT go into a concert with diminished expectations. Let's just nip this right here in the bud, a pro performer in any endeavor where people are leaving their houses, getting sitters, arranging schedules, driving and paying good money, trust me, feels an HUGE responsibility to be at his best and deliver as exciting and as technically perfect a performance as he possibly can. Crime-iny, it's a point of honor. No, I reject your idea that we should cut them slack, no way, as artists, SD ask a LOT of us in their recorded music. Do you know anyone with a short attention span who loves SD? I was out tonight at an outdoor jazz performance here in the mountains of Abruzzi and I got into a conversation with the band about SD. They are so well respected over here amongst musicians, it was quite a shock, one guy even pulled out the old story of how folks bring Dan records to the store where they buy their systems - something we've heard from Danfans for eons. C'mon people, Don & Walt raised the bar way up there decades ago, now don't ask me to accept anything less, don't let's downsize ourselves.
Now I have to go talk to Michael about Fredo, he's pissing me off and something has to be done.
Posted by: JaneLightning, Wakefield MABig Fan - Of course I still lurk. Hoops is THE definitive source!!! Watch for an e-mail from me.
Looking forward to renewing lots of old acquaintances SOON. See you all at the Boston show!
Posted by: angel, Rajah: I know what it is, the Corleone's are holding a gun to your head. ;-)
Were we at a similar concert? Man, Parker's Band Rocks!!!!!!!
Only thing I missed, was that 2nd drummer, but hey, Carlock can't do absolutely everything. He did a great job on it and the girls did just fine. It was a concert and people were there to have a GOOD TIME! This is not brain surgery. We (the Dan Fans) take ourselves and the music seriously, but not in a concert. That is the time to kick back and just enjoy the experience. The many levels of Dandom, all grooving to the music. Have another Cuban Breeze and chill out a hair.
I'll be at Universal on the first, maybe see ya there. :-)
Posted by: Rajah of Erase, Abruzzi, ItalyHey Kid: I liked Parker's Band very much but Parker's Band is not a great SD song, it's a one groove pony with a strange little bridge that really isn't. It shakes and stirs and says nothing very much at all, it's a tip of the hat to a great musical giant but it has absolutely no story line or tension. It's a lot like The Steely Dan Show song in that it could be used to open the 2nd set while everyone is finding their way back to their seats. The girls shake their money-makers and it's good fun. It does not pack the punch of Dirty Work nor does it hold a similar place in the Fandom's hearts. Andats a fact. I will say this again and I suppose we can argue forever but the setlist is weak in places, great in places. They could and should have made it strong and compelling throughout. Razor Boy, which I know they rehearsed, THAT would have been the kicker for our trusty angel girls.
Posted by: Gretchen, ducking into Nino'sBluprintblu-what's going on, friend? Why are you down on the bottom? How can we cheer you up?
Posted by: danfiend, Hey Dan Fans
I just returned from a Midwest Dan Trifecta (Chicago, Columbus, and Detroit) and I can't believe how great the experience was. The song choices were excellent! Time Out of Mind, Caves of Altamira, Haitian Divorce, Godwhacker, and Slang of Ages were the highlights for me.
What pisses me off is that the fair-weather fans that go these shows view Walter's set as bathroom and beer breaks. Seeing folks leave in droves during Slang and Haitian irks me to no end. But never mind. The more folks left the louder I got in show of support. I loves ya Walter! Wish you would sing more.
Although I essentially saw the identical show three times, I'd do it again and again and again. So I will. See you in JB, Dallas, and maybe even Maui.
Take Care folks
SteelyDanFiend
for life
Posted by: bluprintblu, down on the bottomGretchen, I applaud you for using the word snarky....
Posted by: Razor-boy, Mass.Hello all Danfans.
With this being my first post here, I would like to thank all for the reviews and comments of the tour so far. We have some awsome seats for the Tweeter Ctr. this saturday and you guys are only wetting my appetite more as showtime nears.
I went to the Danfest in 2000 at some sports bar up near Fenway park (sorry I cant remember the name right now) and I met alot of nice people there as well as got my ticket for the next nights show. The Tall Ships were also in town that week, so it was just a great day all around. All this combined with a great show that opened with Boston Rag! It just dosn't get any better.
Unfortunately it dosn't look like we will be able to make this years danfest, but will be looking for you guys before and after the show in the parking lot.
Now just a few comments on some posts that I have read.
I've heard some mentions of the NY Rock and Soul Review and some great musicians like M. Jostyn, and Drew Zingg. I saw one of these shows and it was phenomenal. That live CD definitly ranks in my top 5 list of all-time greatest live cd's.
The set-list/encore song debate:
For anybody who complains about repetitive songs and encores, you probably go to too many shows (and I don't mean that as a bad thing) for me who see's 1 or 2 shows a tour, I just take it for what it is, excellent music. Perfection and Grace!
I will never get tired of hearing "My Old School" because back in the 80's when our college closed down between my junior and senior years,it was a bad scene indeed. A small band of us who transferred to the same school, lived by a mantra-like "Never going back to my old school".
So I guess my point is, the music and bands and songs are about what they touch inside us, not whats just on paper.
I guess I've rambled on long enough, I look forward to hitting this board often in the days to come.
Dave, aka Razor-boy
Posted by: Robin, NE OHTIME CHANGE FOR TONIGHT'S FESTIVITIES!
I just spoke with Blossom and the gates will not open tonight until 5:30! The Blossom Restaurant & Bar will open at the same time. We can't reserve a space, but I am sure we can stake out a section of the bar as needed.
T-minus 4 hours and counting to the Cleveland DanFest!
"Me and you will listen to
A little bit of what made the preacher dance"
Posted by: Rajini di Scangello(it's me), Abruzzi, ItalyGretchii- You're just using me get to Don, aren't you, don't lie to me. And yes, if Mrs. Meali shakes her fluffy pom poms to Volare while Bagel boy bongoes, it's gonna be a double trouble chicky-boom evening. SD are alright but Sick Fruity Bitches never fail to deliver. Mi go now, andiamo.
Posted by: Kid Clean, Ridin' my armadillo to the Camarillo
I don't want to knock any heads, but I can't believe all the negative reviews of Parker's Band. That was The highlight of the second set for me. I'm not a musician, nor do I really study music, but that has to be the fastest 'paced' song in their catalog and it just screamed. The girls, imo, did wonderful singing, sounded great in harmony. It would have been a great opportunity to let the horn section 'fly'. Sure Keith really wailed on the drums, and Jon was great on Haitian and ok on Kid C., but, on Parker's, everyone seemed to be right there at the same time. Or maybe I was crazy or I was high, but I am just an ordinary guy.
It's all things to all people, just glad I got to be one of those people.
See Ya in Memphis!!!!!
KC
Posted by: Gretchen, Raj-Being the English nerd that I am, I don't believe there is a hyphen. However, this rule may have been modified in the past few years due to the frequency of use. Wish I were there. Sounds like a good time. Perhaps when you return you can inspire the Sick Fruity Bitches to do a version of "Volare."
Posted by: Rajah of Erase(chillin at the espresso bar), Abruzzi, ItalyGretchina- thank you for your solicitude on my behalf and, yes, I'm having a Campari & soda before heading out to hear an Italian jazz diva perform tonight, cripes, I hope she knows all the words to Volare or I'll probably chew my arm off. Maybe I do have a problem, so, question: is there a hyphen in anal retentive?
Posted by: Gretchen, Raj-have some San Pellegrino with lime and chill out, baby. Maybe the Don has something on his mind.
Posted by: RCray, Motown for now.more memories from detroit as I consulted with my date from last night.
I think Walter did a good enough job on Haitian Divorce but the song just doesn't work live.
Things I miss the most - sounded surprisingly good.
Parker's Band - um, no.
Josie - Carlock stole the show.
Kid C. - Herington rocked.
Black Cow - eerily perfect.
Hey Nineteen - almost seems cheesy with all the talk, jokes etc.
My Old School - everyone sang the chorus in the crowd and it was sublime.
Home at last - Awesome.
Bottom Line - The sound was phenomenal. Walter had his guitar turned up louder than I can remember.
This tour needs to be released on disk and sold as the definitive steely live album.
I'd pay 15 dollars just to have black cow from last nites show live.
Posted by: Rajah of Erase(sono Vito Andolini), Abruzzi, ItalyOK, I'll back off and I swear I'm not trying to be a tight-ass. Anybody out there who has ever performed professionally knows that flubbing lines or blowing clams happens to everybody occasionally but I think we can all now count the shows where people have reported this problem with Don. It's just not like him and you can bet Walt has noticed. Peace and pass the pasta.
Posted by: Gretchen, I guess I'll just have to see for myself what all this muffing lines is about. 13 more days. I do have to say that although I like EMG I am not as attached to it as I am to their other albums. Maybe if I hear some of it live it'll grow on me. Would love to hear Lunch w. Gina and GreenBook and perhaps Pixeleen. Oakdale is a smaller venue, 1st date of leg 2, so perhaps it will be a different kind of experience than the ones described thus far. What are the chances of hearing "Goodbye Look?"
Posted by: Joey, " RCRAY - Thank you, Parker's Band nowhere near rivals last tour's rendering of Dirty Work. I give the boyz a C- so far. "
A " C- " is a little harsh my Italian Brother ....................
I would go " A - " due to the prodigious musicianship of the band and hearing Walter sing Haitian Divorce .
Yet , It is a shame you could not join me at the Denver Gig to see the expression on Walter's face as he listened to Don muff some lines -- Priceless !!!!!!!
Just ask Hoopsie , he was there , he saw the whole thing and was probably just as mortified as me when Walter had to remove the guitar that was supported by his gut , get up off his stool , and nearly walk over to Donny's piano to voice - mail him the lyrics .
Shiver .........................................
Developing ...........................................
Joey !
Posted by: Gretchen, Raj-who ARE you, amigo? Thanks for that offer, but I'd rather just watch the real thing. C'mon, why so snarky? You're on vacation! No one is perfect (except me).
Posted by: HANK, Set-List: I've noticed when SD fans have seen mulitiple shows, the set-list remains the same. I would like to see them change it up too. My analogy is this: When you watch the same movie mulitiple times and you already know the outcome, you still pick-up some subtile naunces which are very cool.
To anyone from Katy Lied ( A SD tribute band): Since you have a vast repertoire of SD songs. How difficult would it be for SD to reherse and play a few different set-list?
Thanks
Hank
Posted by: grippa48, N.J.Ok....this is where I'll be at PNC sunday nite.
section 103
row K
seats 129 thru 135
Stop by before the concert starts....it would be great to meet someone. (pssst......im married too bad...lol)
Posted by: Rajah of Erase(mama put the pasta on), Abruzzi, ItalyHank - I can appreciate your point of view as to just sitting back with your brewski and enjoying the show for the wonderful gift it is, yeah, of course, I can understand that. But it just doesn't work that way for me. These guys have prided themselves on being perfect, their recordings are exquisite to the point of obsession, EMG included. I cannot bear the thought of Donny mangling couplets. I'd rather he retire, seriously, I felt the same way about Frank at the end but he was 70-something. It's killing me everytime one of our bluebookers reports miscues. So I hope you can appreciate my standards and not think ill of me. Don muffing lyrics is unthinkable and unacceptable on the professional level. Is he crazy is he high, but please don't tell me he's an ordinary guy.
RCray - thank you brother, Parker's Band is a yawn. When the girls did Dirty Work last year, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up.
Gretchy - I can get you a DF blow-up cuddly toy if it will help.
Posted by: Gretchen, RAJAH-
Long time no hear! I'm afraid I have to agree with Hank on this one. Although our duo insists on perfection, this can be applicable only to studio work. A live show is what it is, alive! It's not supposed to be perfect, it's them in real time, being real people. How many of us are perfect in our day to day existence? An album is a project that can be fussed over and perfected to the point of hysteria, but a live concert is showcasing their real talent, without all the studio airbrushing, per se. If Don misses lyrics, maybe he's nervous. Playing to crowds that size in an outdoor venue must be daunting. It would make me downright ill, man. Remember, these guys don't have a long touring history, and Don is notorious for stage fright. I like the spontineity of live music, seeing them as real instead of these mysterious gods of the recording studio. Just my humble opinion....
Posted by: Rajah of Erase(mama put the spaghetti on), Goriano Sicoli, ItalyHank - I can appreciate your attitude concerning the live shows, ya know, just lean back and enjoy and appreciate them for what they are, mistakes and all and if that works for you, goddbless, but it doesn't for me. This is a duo who take meticulous care with their work product and have a history of perfectionism to the point of obsession. To ask a lifelong fan to just sit back and enjoy his beer while DF mangles couplets just doesn't cut it for me. So far, the shows by many accounts have been SUB-STEELY-STANDARD. If they are not razor boy sharp by the time I see them back in L.A. in October, you will hear about it. I hope you can appreciate my point of view.
RCRAY - Thank you, Parker's Band nowhere near rivals last tour's rendering of Dirty Work. I give the boyz a C- so far.
So, OK, everybody, whip it on me.
Posted by: hoops, detroitReally quick.
Detroit show was good time. Pine Knob is a beautiful venue. The set list was the same as Chicago. The highlight was the most amazing drum solo on "Josie" by Carlock that I have seen/heard. Others who had seen multiple shows also said that this was Carlock's best.
Regarding the shirst DF had on, Steve K from the Chicago Danfest list writes:
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Greetings fellow Dan-ites . . .
I just joined the chicago@dandom e-mail list! After being forwarded some of
the e-mails regarding Donald's "attire" on 8/8 from my friend Bob (Katy Lied),
I thought I would respond to you. I also sent a note to Hoops earlier.
Donald was wearing a BEBOP DADDYS T-shirt that I gave him about an hour before the
show. Bebop Daddys is a local Chicago jazz/rock band which includes the
rhythm section players (bass & drums) from the LION KING downtown (not unlike Ted
Baker & Tom Barney from SD who also play the Broadway shows in NYC when not
touring with D &W).
I teach classes to teenagers on jazz/pop composition and know D & W through
earlier experiences with the school, (see www.steelydan.com/lincolnwood.html).
We actually teach the classes using lots of SD music, and analyze its
incredibly rich harmonic material!
I will be posting my digital pics from August 8 on my website later this
week, at www.bebopdaddys.com.
In the words of my students: "Steely Dan Rules!" Hey ... anything to get
them away from Britney Spears and Limp Bizkit!
- Steve
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Neil Rudish hosted an intimate Wing Ding at Clarkston that was a lot of fun--just the nine of us, proving that you don't need a lot of people to have a great time at a Danfest. So show up whether there's two or 200...bound to be a great time.
Having some car trouble so not sure if I will make Cleveland but hoping to.
That's it for a while. Sorry I am not able to keep up with all the posts from the road BUT THANK YOU FOR SHARING.
jim
Posted by: Gretchen, Cafe D'escargotHEY HONEYBUN!!
I checked out that clip, it's oohhhhh so soothing......
When are you going to be in the greenroom? We should meet for a chat.
Have all the Donfan girls in there. God, I'd love to put my head on his shoulder......
Posted by: RCray, NYC/MotownAllright here is the news:
Went to the Detroit show last night. The set list was somewhat the same to the other ones previously listed.
No real surprises other than they came on at 7:45 and the Pavillion was not full, lots of people still showing up.
My seats were 6th row on the right side so I could see everything.
Donald had red and white addidas soccer shoes on for the first set and then he came out with some black hi-tops? He also had on a long sleeve dress shirt unbuttoned with another shirt with writing which I couldn't see on under it he must have been hot because it was at least 75 when the show started.
Carolyn Leonhart looked great in a red, essentially wrap around skirt and very small top.
In my opinion Parker's Band just doesn't work. They should bring back Dirty Work.
During Hey nineteen Donald rambled on about going to the beach, drinking tequila, and eating crackers??
The crowd really got into the encore and between My old school and FM Walter made the comment "We are always so liked here" and then Don said we only have time for one more and then blasted into FM.
ALL in all it was a pretty straight forward show. Donald's solo work on Josie was phenomenal as was Herington's on KID C.
Seems like the same show everyone else is going to see.
Posted by: mikem, lbi, njinteresting article about what phish is doing at their shows...
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/07/technology/circuits/07rock.html
imagine the virtual dan village! D+W, pls read! :))
mikem,
lbi, nj
Posted by: HANK, Some rambling thoughts
I've been reading few post where people have mentioned that DF missed a few lyrics. I say big deal. I rather see a live show with a few mistakes than going to a concert where the singer lip-synchs the whole concert.
Now let's talk concerts. I've also been reading post where people have mentioned the Band playing the same set list over and over. Unfortunately, All bands are doing the same thing. Going to a concert is like going to a play. Everthing is scripted. Like Rod Stewart said, " My adlibbed lines were well rehearsed".
My suggestion would be SD should have two different Set-List and rotate them each night.
Conclusion, just drink your beer and enjoy the show!
Hank
Posted by: mikem, lbi, njhey robin, this is a slippery slope- a danner-than-thou thing, if you will; steely dan means different things to different people.
i personally cannot listen to slang of ages- i know many here enjoy it immensely, on disc and at the shows. music is SO personal!
i for one feel fortunate that i enjoy EMG and TVN as well as [and as much as!]the 72-79 "classic" period.
mikem
lbi, nj
headed to PNC on sunday w/o a ticket- anyone here have an extra?
this is still avail @TM:
PRICE LEVEL 1 - ORCHESTRA - ORCHESTRA RIGHT SIDE - RESERVED SEATING
OBSTRUCTED VIEW SEATING - 1ST LEVEL OF VENUE
sect 101 row x, obstructed (!)
but i have issues with the $11 conv chg, as well as the obstructed view...i feel i can do better onsite.
my 13th row borgata seats are burning a hole in my lockbox- can't wait!
>>Date: Mon, August 11, 2003, 22:22:00 ET
>>Posted by: Robin, NE OH
>>They don't get it. Many of those people are only fans of the hits. >>They're not really fans of Steely Dan. A lot of them may be there >>for purposes other than actually wanting to hear the band.
Posted by: Joey, " If so how could I recongize ya? "
Good Question !!!!
I myself should have sent in a picture via E - Mail or something .
You have no idea how packed these bars / restaurants / meeting places get before the gigs .
J.
Posted by: grippa48, NJ So I'm looking forward to meeting some of my online friends at the Dan gig at the PNC in New Jersey sunday nite. Im still waiting for a reply on who and where some are meeting at the gig.
Im not sure what time the gates to the parking lot open but I wanna bbq and I wanna get there early as possible. Is anyone going early? If so how could I recongize ya?
Can't wait,
Grippa48
Posted by: Scott P. "Steely" Dann, Cleveland, OHYes, my last name really is Dann. And as the illegitimate son of Walter Becker and Donald Fagen, I cannot wait until they are "Home at Last" tonight in Cleveland.
A special shout out to my scurvy brothers, Lucky Henry and Major Dude. LH-e-mail me a phone number of where you'll be tonight. I can call and give you a preview.
Scott P. "Steely" Dann
Posted by: Laina, in SLO, still tired from Monday's 5 hr drive, 12-5amEverything Must Go must be one of your fastest album productions ever.
Fagen: We're not getting any younger.….
Becker: .….And we don't want our next album to be finished by our estates!
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What a morbid thought! :o(
Joey, that's bad. Even Walter was concerned huh? I know we can't be perfect all the time but I don't think it's asking too much that Donald maybe bone up on the lyrics...but *verging on blasphemy* maybe his age is getting in the way.
I thought MY crowd (at Paso Robles) was "a f***in' great crowd!" They can't ALL be great...can they? *pouting* LOL
Anyone into Jack Johnson or Ben Harper? I saw them both on Sunday in San Diego and they were *AWESOME*!!!
Lainalove
Posted by: Double Felix, TejasMy significant other and I will be attending the 9/21 show in Dallas and are looking for a pre/post party to plan/crash. We are Dan savvy and looking for those of our kind. You may respond by clicking on my handle above and sending an e-mail or responding to this post. In any case, Thank You!
Cheers,
DF
Posted by: scott, minnesotaFor those of you who are keeping track of these sorts of things, I was at the St. Paul concert last Thursday and at the United on Friday - both nights had the same set list (which I see was repeated in Columbus on Saturday)
Posted by: Robin, NE OH
