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While there is no set topic, discussion should be vaguely Steely Dan tangential.



Date: Tue Jan 31 16:35:15 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: fezman, boston

In my opinion trying to establish a ranking to music is like ranking one's emotional state,it has been my experience that my selection of the music that touches me at any given time is directly related to my emotional state and that covers an extremely broad spectrum.Put in that perspective I can more easily accept others choices and understand my own.......wow!! my head hurts now!!!! lol


Date: Tue Jan 31 16:22:26 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

Oh my, someone's comparing apple and bananas in here. I'll give 50 cent a 12...

Rajah: could you explain what you mean by "Arabian scale"? In H-Gang I hear the steps 4, 3, b3 in the sax over a G minor">something). In Green Book isn't it just a phrygian scale?


Date: Tue Jan 31 15:34:50 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph,

I wonder of Donald originally intended on doing a "trilogy" set of solo albums, that all build on each other, or if it just turned out that way. I would doubt he had that in mind while working on The Nightfly, but during Kama's production, who knows?


Date: Tue Jan 31 15:34:50 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: hoops,

And let me guess, "What's" -- You are either Gene Rayburn or Charles Nelson Riley.


Date: Tue Jan 31 15:06:00 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Dan, Kingston, Ontario

Hi guys, just wondering if anyone is planning on going to the March 12th show at the NAC in Ottawa...I wouldn't mind having a few pints beforehand!


Date: Tue Jan 31 14:59:59 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: What's my line?, Let me guess

You like to criticize Steely Dan but hang around Steely Dan circles relentlessly. You like to name drop musicians...Are you Peter Q?


Date: Tue Jan 31 14:54:49 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Lord of the Thighs, Chapel


Doesn't blatant plaigarism of Garbarek and Jarrett's song maybe bring us down to a 9.5?


Date: Tue Jan 31 14:47:10 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

The opinion of a 21 year old here, so if you think youth is inherently ignorant about music, go ahead and ignore me.

I've only heard a few Miles Davis albums. Kind of Blue, Bitches Brew, Live Evil, In A Silent Way, and a couple others. It's all very accomplished, brilliant stuff...but I just can't listen to it much. It's great to hear for an hour or two at the most, but after that I have to put it away and go with something more melodic and "easier." In terms of developing all future music and developing musicians and other notable feats, it's incredible. But it's just not the kind of music I can "enjoy" so much as as "appreciate."

Therefore, in the car, I'm more apt to grab my copy of Royal Scam or Aja and put it in the CD player than I am Kind of Blue or Bitches Brew. And I think that is what ph is trying to say.


Date: Tue Jan 31 14:42:41 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: hoops ,

You're probably right, Chris.

Still, SD = 10 in my book and MD gets a 9.



Date: Tue Jan 31 14:38:07 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph, you win

Okay, well, Chris' post switched me.
MD gets an 11 and SD get a 10.


Date: Tue Jan 31 14:36:05 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: chris , nh

i am certain that don and walt will agree with me when i say that miles davis is one of the most, if not THE most, important jazz musicians of the last 60 years - not neccessarily for his own playing, but the fact that he basically INVENTED modal jazz, cool jazz, and jazz fusion">which, incidently, steely dan could be characterized as). he also had an amazing track record for picking up relatively unknown jazz musicians and turning them into stars who would in turn have a HUGE impact on jazz music, such as bill evans, john coltrane, wayne shorter, herbie hancock, keith jarrett, cannonball adderly, max roach, etc.

i'm in the same boat with many of who say that, while there are a few miles albums i don't like, there are no don or walt records that i dislike. but to be perfectly honest, miles and D&W barely even deserve to mentioned in the same sentence.


Date: Tue Jan 31 14:36:05 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Lord!, Lord!

Of course, you've listened to all 200 or so Miles Davis albums. correct? Tell us - what Steely Dan album compares to Miles Smiles? To Kind Of Blue? To Sketches of Spain?


Date: Tue Jan 31 14:36:05 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: hoops,

Point made Lord. Our rankings only matter if we are one of those so-called "acknowledged music experts." Nice to know we disagree...see ya.

jim


Date: Tue Jan 31 14:30:45 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Lord!, Lord Lord Lord

I'd be curious if anybody here could find even one comment by any acknowledged music expert of any kind anywhere in the world who says that Steely Dan is more important to music than Miles Davis. You can Google until your arm falls off, it ain't gonna happen. What planet, people?


Date: Tue Jan 31 14:30:45 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph, I don't think I'm anybody in particular

LORD, my list is basically the scale I would use to decide what is going to pop into the CD player, so it may not accurately reflect quality or musical genius, or what actually matters. In fact, though I play Pink Floyd more than I do Miles, I would agree that I should have rated him higher. But I still say Steely Dan gets a 10, above everybody else.



Date: Tue Jan 31 14:25:21 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: OH LORD, Oh Lord

To rate not only Steely Dan, but anybody at all, above Miles Davis in 20th century music is such a statement of ignorance it almost defies description. Who the fuck is you think you is?


Date: Tue Jan 31 14:25:21 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: hoops,

There's are undeiably a lot of sublime recordings by Miles but, in my book, also more than a few things by Miles Davis I just as soon forget about"> and admittedly a few things that are examples of his genius but I don't understand...yet.) On the other hand, I can't think of a Becker/Fagen recording that I dislike. I love Van Morrison, Paul Simon, Joni Mitchell, Leonard Cohen. Geniuses. But there are a few recordings by all that I could l pass on. Not so with Steely Dan. It's all great. So yeah, I could see someone saying that MD is a 9 and SD is a 10.

Thanks LWO. The banner was submitted by WBR.co.uk-related folks; not so nuts about the strobing DF portion of the animated GIF but it does add to the anticipation. As for the Danfest Registry, I've done three pages and not one is perfect which is why it is taking so long. Laters me hopes. THANK YOU for your kind words. Gotta run...

jim


Date: Tue Jan 31 14:14:57 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

He's 18, blunt and brilliant, he gets it, ph's evaluations are right on despite his youth.


Date: Tue Jan 31 14:07:32 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Oh Lord, Oh Lord Oh Lord

Yeah OK, Steely Dan is a 10 and Miles Davis is a 9? How old are you?


Date: Tue Jan 31 14:07:32 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph, proofreading is a practice I haven't mastered

everything body?
wha?

that was supposed to be "everybody else".


Date: Tue Jan 31 13:45:07 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph,

Agreed. Quality is a rather vauge term that is open to interpretation. By quality do you mean audial quality? In that case, Steely Dan, of course. Lyrical quality? IMHO, Steely Dan, but somebody else might think differently. Intrumental quality? Also opinion, but I say it's a tie. And so on...

Besides, if we put these bands on a scale with everything body in the world, what would be looking at?

Steely Dan = 10/10
Pink Floyd = 9.9999999999
Miles Davis = 9
A few other misc groups = 8
Everybody else < 0.0002857393

Okay, so I'll probably get flamed for my above scale, but that's my slant on the music industry


Date: Tue Jan 31 13:41:17 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Little Wild One, workin'

Nice, hoops! Love the new Morph the Cat blinker on the home page!

Also looking forward to the danfest/wingding/wallapalooza/whatevaH registry. The photo has already given me some ideas for party favors!

It occurred to me today that February is the cruelest month, since the dates mirror those for March. Close yet so far away.



Date: Tue Jan 31 12:17:05 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Swinger - quality according to WHO?? Who gets to define quality? I was having a bit of fun with an otherwise assinine question. The answer was easy from any number of levels. Quite simply - all it takes is to A - love Steely Dan and B - love Pink Floyd.


Date: Tue Jan 31 11:20:53 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

Yes, Mu, the Arabian scale that Donald calls upon so often like in Greenbook...it really is the place he got all that Aja stuff from. A major influence in his compositions. There's a strong Far East influence in Steely Dan. The axis is NYC-LA-Far East.


Date: Tue Jan 31 11:16:20 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: NYB, the moral of the story

Stevie D,

If I had to guess Fagen's worth I'd say... PRICELESS!


Date: Tue Jan 31 10:49:22 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: swinger, How's my little girl

joesy, fittest, ph:

diversity is ok,
the question is: quality!

for some listeners "steely dan" seems to be the
highest level in their musik-repertoir">incl. alkali),

for others not.

thats ok ;-)


Date: Tue Jan 31 10:38:27 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Doc Mu ,

According to Radio & Records this week

H-Gang is tied for First in Most Added and Second in Most Increased Plays in the Triple A Format. If this trend continues, H-Gang hould be in the Top 30 next week in the Triple A format.


http://www.radioandrecords.com/Formats/Charts/Triplea_Chart.asp


Date: Tue Jan 31 10:14:46 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Stevie D, Beantown


I thought of a topic we could all sink our teeth into. Anyone care to guess on Donald Fagens net worth? $10 Mil? $20 Mil? $100 Mil??

I'll take a shot based on various royalties, Concert tours, Album grosses over the last 30 years.">let us not forget TVN was the most expenisive album of all time) Ill say some where between $20-25 Million, JMO... What do you folks think?


Date: Tue Jan 31 10:04:06 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph, um...i dont get it.

Ditto Mike F. I have no idea what he's talking about!

Blogbert, I don't know if you were being sarcastic or what, but either way, Thanks!


Date: Tue Jan 31 10:04:05 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Mike F., New York

Steely Dan "Amalgam" ?
What is that? Am I missing out on some inside joke?


Date: Tue Jan 31 10:04:05 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Doc Mu,

RAj" how about that "Arabian thing" with the sax solo going on at about the 2:11-2:12 mark in the album version of H-Gang, well be for the key change at the 2:19 mark.


Date: Tue Jan 31 10:04:04 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

Phillip Glass?
Blahhh!

if Becker joins Fagen anywhere on his tour it's gotta be at the Beacon!
i'm not counting on it though.

the C.D. machine is loaded and spinning:

MVP "Truth in shredding"
Tschaichowsky "NCS"
Lincoln "Abbie Lincoln"
Petrucciani "Promenade with Duke"
Steely Dan "Amalgam"
Bacharach "Make it easy on yourself"

A


Date: Tue Jan 31 10:04:04 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Mike F., New York

A friend of mine showed me the so-called Master CD release of Aja and in looking over the notes included, a reviewer referred to Deacon Blues as an Edge City Ballad. Can anyone shed any light on what he meant? Other than that the notes were pretty insignificant and not all that positive. I did not get a chance to hear it and compare it to the re-mastered release.


Date: Tue Jan 31 10:04:03 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Earl, Biden's Brothel

Hey Bluebook. Haven't been here in awhile, but have been jarred to life with the impending tour by DF and crew. Ordered my tix for the Tower outside of Philly. As far as I know, WXPN's the only station in the Philly area playing H Gang. Heard it this morning ~6 AM. Really looking forward to March.



Date: Tue Jan 31 10:03:59 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: MF, On location

Happy Birthday,
Philip Glass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Date: Tue Jan 31 10:03:59 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: blogbert,

Hey ph. Thanks for your balance, your acid wit, and your basic instincts.

Your pal,
bloggie

(not really sponsored by Lincoln Media group, fabricators of fine truth-like products)


Date: Tue Jan 31 10:03:58 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SS, HK

According to Keith Carlock's website, he's playing with Wayne Krantz and Anthony Jackson Feburary 9th and 23rd at the 55.

New York area Dandom with a little time on their hands might do some reporting, eh ?

Information like touring band...setlists...surprise visits...anything on other Morph tracks...surround possibilities.....

Not that I'm anxious to find out......


Date: Mon Jan 30 22:06:46 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: frankie D.,

Chris- Where did you hear that? I think you're the one starting that rumor. I doubt that's going to happen.


Date: Mon Jan 30 21:20:18 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: chris, rumers?

anyone know how valid the rumors are the mr. becker will be joining mr. fagen at select DF shows?

if so, think he'll stop by boston?">who am i kidding, it'll be the beacon for sure...)


Date: Mon Jan 30 21:20:14 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TV Junkie, Gold and Black

Episode tonight on Medium

"Time out of Mind"


Date: Mon Jan 30 21:20:11 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

The bass line on "Haitian divorce" is so smooth and cool, almost conversational.
Dean Parks should have been allowed to finish his solo in the end.
Not a voice box but a Becker synth embellishment, genius!
Bring back this Steely Dan phase and I will be happier than a pig in slop.
By the way, college boy, Stern can't be the best electric guitarist as long as McLaughlin and Holdsworth are alive.

Heard "H-Gang" proper today after the office....
What can I say but thanks Don; you've done it yet again.
You are the man can't wait to see you at the Beacon!!!

A



Date: Mon Jan 30 15:49:44 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Enjoying "Royal Scam" and "Division Bell" is pretty easy if you have even the slightest diversity in musical taste.


Date: Mon Jan 30 15:49:44 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

ph,

you nailed it! you re damnd right!!

i just wonder: how could a guy enjoy royal scam
and also divison bell?


dr jeckl and mr hyde...?


Date: Mon Jan 30 15:49:44 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: angel,

ph: Bass on Don't Take Me Alive. :-)


Date: Mon Jan 30 15:49:43 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph,

Just listened to ROYAL SCAM with the subwoofer turned WAY up. That album has got to have THE BEST bass useage of any album I have ever listened to. "The Fez" is my fav. "Haitian Divorce" is awesome. "Everything You Did" is also great.
I think the amazingness comes from its simplicity. Nothing complicated going on, just takes the role of the perfect back up to the melody and harmony of each track. I love it.

..Wow! The things you miss wearing earbuds!


Date: Mon Jan 30 14:37:54 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah, L.A.

Lars - it is so reminicient of Haitian Divorce but no, we are persuaded that it is Jon Herington on the flanged guitar lead,">I thought Krantz, frankly) I'm surprised by how mischievious and adventurous the whole guitar line is but especially funn at 2:27 to about 2:40 when that snaky liquid electric blue dragon comes wafting out of the speakers following the Weiskopf sax solo. Classic Steely Dan, thrilled that he reached into the trickbag and pulled out something old, new, borrowed, blue.


Date: Mon Jan 30 14:37:54 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Lars, Sweden

finally heard H-gang. Nice, very nice! A nod to the past in the keyboards">Gaucho) BUT ,sue me if I'm wrong - the smouth guitar">solo) must be Larry C">well I know it isn't)! Haitian divorce straight off. Good!
/L


Date: Mon Jan 30 13:51:27 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: hemiola, a&ring southwest

a donald snippet re band personnel.
http://www.knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=692

about 2/3's way down in the article.
hemiola


Date: Mon Jan 30 13:39:57 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Abe, NYC

Rajah=GREASY


Date: Mon Jan 30 12:38:04 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Jaco - I'm with ya!! He's one helluva bassist - and everything else he touches. Whenever Metheny introduced him on that tour, he always introduced him by saying "on everything, Richar Bona!"


Date: Mon Jan 30 12:29:14 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Knowledge, College

If you haven't heard Mike Stern's Voices and you're about to, be warned this is literally like having been blind and suddenly get your vision. You think you've been listening to music all these years and...the best album by the best electric guitarist, ever.


Date: Mon Jan 30 12:02:21 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Jaco, UK

Josey, I'm an enormous fan of Richard Bona. Seen him solo and with Pat M. Had the opportunity to meet him too - an absolutely delightful guy.

Do check out his solo efforts...Reverence, Scenes from my Life to start with!


Great player!



Mike


Date: Mon Jan 30 11:04:39 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

Josey, this was the Jazz festival.
Friday night to Sunday night.

Now spinning in the CD Machine:


Metheny C,The way upC.">Josey, thanks for the reminder)
Fagen C,The NightflyC.
Holdsworth C,AtavachronC.
Mclaughlin C,Birds of fireC.
Fitzgerald C,The essentialCC.
Tschaichowsky C,NCSC.">this will never leave my player!)

As I type, the title track to C,Birds of FireC. is roaring in the backgroundC
What an incredible jam it is.
And speaking of Jam:
With a name like Shmuckers, it has to be good!

A



Date: Mon Jan 30 11:04:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Alkali - I snagged "Voices" not too long after it was released. That one also features Richard Bona - who I had never heard of until I saw him perform with Metheny on the "Speaking Of Now" tour. What an incredible talent! He's like a musical swiss army knife.

So, was this a Steps Ahead concert you saw or a Mike Stern concert? Steve Smith has such an amazing mastery of the drumkit. Absolutely love watching him play! It's technical wizardry at it's finest. I used to love his band Vital Information, but I hate the new direction they went in around 5 years ago or so.


Date: Mon Jan 30 11:04:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah, L.A.

and in other news...Jeff Young was supposed to play Ghengis Cohen, this little kosher Chinese restaurant in the Faifax district on Saturday night but ws cancelled. I'd say reheasals may have commenced. Your job, Dandom, should you choose to accept it, is to discover where the Donald Fagen Band is rehearsing somewhere in the City.

David Gilmour is great at playing David Gilmour. He played with McCartney a few years ago at the New Cavern Club in Liverpool, remember this, it was on cable and he stunk up the joint playing old Beatles tunes. Course Paul's voice gave out on him part way through and he couldn't find the right key, pitch or tone. Fiasco. I never thought Paul could remediate his pipes the way he has lately...which gives me hope for Donald. 20 shows in 31 days? You know he's gotta be in better shape than the EMG Tour to pull this off.


Date: Mon Jan 30 10:10:28 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

Josey, the drummer was Steve Smith.
The real treat was Manieri the vibraphonist. He was amazing.
C,The way upC. yes, yes, yes! Such a great composition.
I love Metheny. ThereC-s something very raw and garage band like about his band.
At the festival I also had the privilege of seeing Brubeck again. Great.
The only bad part of the concert was that it was hotter that hell that weekend.
Had a great time anyway, my wife was never a Stern fan until she saw him live.

SternC-s C,VoicesC. record is wild. This is the one with Caliuto on drums and Herington on rhythm.
Check it out if you havenC-t yet.

A



Date: Mon Jan 30 09:19:35 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph, why won't this damned month END!!!

Fittest, that's an explanation I can handle. Indeed, Gilmour said himself after the Momentary Lapse album was released:
"I simply thought, 'Are these songs good?' and worked on trying to make the ones I thought were good into a record. It can not help sounding quite a bit like Pink Floyd if it's got my voice and my guitar playing on it anyway."
Gilmour was never the best writer, I like his work, but that Waters/Gilmour combination was near perfection. Pink Floyd went down hill when the two started to seperate, when Waters decided it was "his" band and they would do it his way">starting with ANIMALS), and then of course when Waters left after THE FINAL CUT and the Pink Floyd moniker basically became Gilmour's pet project.
Nonetheless, I'll be buying Gilmour's solo album on March 6. Even though the last two "Pink Floyd" albums may not have been up to the DSOTM or WYWH standard, I love them anyway. I play THE DIVISION BELL more often then CAN'T BUY A THRILL.


What's the deal with January?? There's still two days left in this wretched month!!


Date: Mon Jan 30 09:19:35 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Re: the David Gilmour discussion - I don't know about how technically proficient he is at the guitar because I'm not a guitarist. But I love the sound he gets from a guitar about as much as any other guitarist I listen to! I think he has a great knack for getting as much out of just a few simple notes as anyone.

I saw the Division Bell tour in Atlanta and it was, without question, the best concert I had ever seen before or since. I couldn't listen to anyone else for a week after that show. I didn't miss Roger Waters at all!


Date: Mon Jan 30 09:19:35 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Alkali - who was drumming with Stern when you saw him? I love most all of his stuff - and don't even get me started on Metheny! His music deserves it's own category. "The Way Up" is one of the most brilliant compositions I've ever listened to! There's just so much musical information happening there.


Date: Mon Jan 30 09:19:35 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SS, HK

There is nothing in what I've copied below that suggests ELS Surround is anything but surround sound - albeit intended for cars !

I didn't go all the way through the ELS Surround website...but nowhere did I see a mention of the upcoming DF tour.

So...why would these guys">Panasonic and automakers) push a collaboration with a surround sound specialist...get their names all over the promo stuff for the March concerts....then NOT do them in surround ?


'About ELS Surround

Drawing upon a rich tradition of leadership in audio technology, Panasonic Automotive has collaborated with celebrated producer/engineer Elliot Scheiner to create and market ELS Surround premium audio systems. ELS Surround, named for Scheiner's industry known moniker, sets the standard for the ultimate automotive listening experience. Scheiner is widely recognized as a leader in surround sound recording/mixing and has won five Grammy Awards, the most recent for album of the year - Steely Dan's Two Against Nature. More information is available at www.elssurround.com.'



Date: Mon Jan 30 09:19:35 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Flipkid, B'more, MD

Snagged a pair of tix for the Warner Theatre show in DC over the weekend. I am PUMPED.

I don't have a whole "dream set list", but it would sure be nice if he played The Nightfly, New Frontier, Teahouse on the Tracks, Century's End, Walk Between the Raindrops, and Countermoon...


Date: Mon Jan 30 09:19:34 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

Gilmour?
Although I dig his phrasing, he's not a technical player.
HeC-s an average guitarist, say in the Clapton, Page, and Lifeson league.
The Stern and Metheny comparison is interesting; I caught stern last year in Saratoga Springs, like him allot. Metheny has much more to say and his musical spectrum is wide, wider than most.

Morph the cat in the year of the dog, Fagen's drawn to that Oriental philosophical express like a white moth to a yellow flame.
I think it's all planned out. The irony, the coincidence and metaphor.
He probably doesn't sleep much; daydreaming up complex mental weaves to keep him amused and then unleashes and mixes it onto record.

Let the trilogy resolve...
Morph me!

A



Date: Mon Jan 30 09:19:33 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

ph,

no fooling, david gilmour is superfine guitar-player.
as a studio or session player...

but he is no song-writer,
his cheep mainstream-ideas had nothing to do
with the quality of classic pink floyd.

in fact, i'm glad he will release an solo-album under
his name, and not use "pink floyd",

although, as i said, he has yet ruined the glory of "pink floyd"
by using the name pink floyd for his two or three releases.

no, i m no roger waters fan, he s also burned out and has
no creativity,
although he s better than gilmour.


PS: DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND BUY THE NEW "WITCH" project by j.mascis


Date: Mon Jan 30 09:19:31 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Mandarin Plum: What">dog tail) goes around comes around. From IGY">the year I was born) until today...where it has a morphing Tiger by the tail

NYB: breeze - yeah like the triple sun bridge on Tomorrow's Girls...like smooth retsina...


Date: Mon Jan 30 09:19:31 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Mandarin muse, Singapura

Hey everyone in Dan land
Gong Xi Fa Cai!

May the year of the Dog give you something to bark about!

According to Chinese astrology the Year of the Dog will be especially beneficial to Tigers...ie those born in the years 1998, 1986, 1974, 1962">me!), 1950">Walt B.) 1938, 1926, 1914, 1902

ain't it interesting tha Fagen puts out an album about a Cat in the Year of the Dog

Nightfly also came out in Year of The Dog.....

IGY">1958) was Year of the Dog

Dog is God spelled backwards!

thoughts on "H-Block', "Denise" is Donald, song is about Steely Dan circa '73, 'Dan were really Merry Pranksters!...Oleander, any thoughts?


Date: Sun Jan 29 18:03:40 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

Nice drumming on H-gang by Carlock within Donalds minimalistc drum approach. Listen to the snaredrum right after "ready to make a big noise" SNAP. It sounds a lot sharper than the other snaredrum beats. My point? Dunno... just an observation I guess... Maybe a marking of the "big noise", maybe just evidence of live drumming.


Date: Sun Jan 29 18:03:39 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph, can you see your days blinded by darkness?

Fittest, I don't want to start a bloody arguement or anything, but why don't you like David Gilmour?
Let me guess, you're a diehard Waters fan? :)


Date: Sun Jan 29 18:03:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SV, NJ

Let me know,
Steve


Date: Sun Jan 29 18:03:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SV, NJ

Let me know,
Steveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Date: Sun Jan 29 18:03:37 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SV, NJ

I am so bummed. Wife bought 2 tix for Donald Fagen at the Beacon">NYC) 3/7/06. Cant go, but would rather sell them to a real Dan Fan.
(2) tickets in LOGE sec, row J">good seats). Wife bought them on ebay, paid $150 each. Will sell um for $250 for both. I accpt pmnt by Paypal. I will ship to you for no charge...
Let me know,
Steve


Date: Sun Jan 29 18:03:36 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

hey fellows,
look!

buy this one together with morph the cat on 3/7/2006:

http://www.teepeerecords.com/bands/witch/

beside donald fagen it will be the best release 2006 so far.

thanx


ps. do not be stupid and buy the new david gilmour,
this stupid phag ruined the glory of pink floyd.


Date: Sun Jan 29 12:39:04 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: to whom it may..., nowhere

Just one of the local crazies, his Lordship....walk on by....pay no mind.

The trash gets taken out regularly here.


Date: Sun Jan 29 12:39:04 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: NYB,

The more I listen to H-Gang the more I like it. What a nice song.

You know, in a way I think Donald has created his own genre. Nobody writes a song like Donald Fagen. They say that Elvis was the King of Rock & Roll, and that's true I guess, but what about Donald Fagen? What is he the King of? If I had to categorize Donald's solo songwriting I'd call it... Breezy. Donald writes very "breezy" music. So I guess that would make Donald "The King of Breeze".

Now what is "Breeze"? Hmm... good question. I guess you take some lite rock, some jazz, some of the better pop music of the last 40 years, mix it all together in a sophisticated way and you've got "Breeze". And you've also got a new musical genre. And you've also got the legacy of one Donald Jay Fagen.


Date: Sun Jan 29 12:39:03 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Lordship: Thatks. That's all Trout/Marjorie including the fake "hoops" post. no worries mate.

I'm looking forward to more "crunchy" guitar on Morph. H-Gang is a nice start. Mike Stern's an interesting topic that's come up. He sounds like Pat Metheny playing the piano of that makes sense...keyboard like runs. The guitar on H-Gang is really part of call and response and juxtaposition that's all over H-Gang vocals and instruments...Gospel without being gospel. Stern's outstanding, but if H-Gang strategy continues probably not the best fit...


Date: Sun Jan 29 12:39:02 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: His Lordship To Be, Team Mu

Why does everybody have it in for the good doctor all of a sudden?

The way I see it, Mu is a smart guy with some practicle, great stuff to say which is totally in context with the aim of the Bluebook">I think) and what is appearing in it at various times.
I myself don't see a discussion board like this being used as a place to tell other folks to shut up.

I'm also kinda pleased to see that all the various 'his Lordshit to be'">a play on words which could have been thought up by a four year old given a load of swearwords) postings are now GONE, meaning that if Hoops didn't like them, I was obviously right all along, even though I don't really see anybodys postings as being right or wrong, good or bad.
most of the time.
Of course, most of my last few postings now make no sense, but I doubt this really matters too much now.


Date: Sun Jan 29 12:39:02 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS, the city of the great Toots Thielemans

Freia of Gina of beiden,

it's typical that a lot of musiciens are fans of Steely dan.The admiracion is so big cause musiciens know the value and complexity of that music.
I remember a headline of a Belgium newspaper,at the occasion of the Brussels Steely dan concert in 2000,that if someone would let explose a bomb in the concert hall there would no more musicians in belgium.
I saw Mike Stern a few years ago in Juuls jazz club and had the opportunity to make a nice talk with him.
In reality if there are two artists that i would like to see working with Donald and Walter then i surely choose for Mike Stern and Toots Thielemans.

Ben jij nu Belgische, Hollandse of Woon je in de States?
An other group that i like and no mentioned in my list is Spyro Gyra, but only 4 or 5 albums.

I wonder when i going to be able to buy the H Gang on line, no way to do it here in Europe.



Date: Sun Jan 29 12:39:01 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Freia/Gina, Sun Mountain

Deaconblue, nope, just kiddin' around! It's easy, since you're Belgian, we speak the same language and live within an hour's drive...
That particular Mike Stern album happens to be one of my fav as well, plus Metheny's Off Ramp, the track Are You Goin With Me is sheer magic and breath taking. Happens so, I once saw Stern and Bob Berg">alas, the late Bob Berg) perform in Maastricht, a small venue, they were superb...
The Dutch trumpeter Saskia Laroo is also fond of Steely Dan music.. She'll soon be participating in an interview but already said that when she is performing in Poland, a lot of the musicians she works with listen to the music of Steely Dan as well ...
So does her partner, the American pianist Warren Byrd, also a Steely Dan fan...
here's an interesting website...

http://www.chevan.addr.com/avadim.html


Date: Sun Jan 29 12:39:00 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS, the city of the great Toots

I was just wondering what will be the composition of the Donald Fagen tourband?
I think to be able to reproduce Fagens music you need casi the same number of musicians as with Steely Dan tours.
His music is so full of complexity and details that a quartet or quintet would not be able to do the job.

To Josey: yes Tales from Hudson is one of my all time favourites. I put this Breckers jewel in my personnal all time top 10 list.Sometimes it is very hard to make a choice but here's that list without giving a specific order :

Wayne Shorter - Adam's apple
Michael Brecker - Tales fron Hudson
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
- Four generations of miles
John Coltrane - Blue train
Kenny Burrel - Midnight Blue
Wes Montgommery - Round midnight
Oscar Peterson - Motions & emotions
Michael Franks - Sleeping gypsy
Tania Maria - best off
Mike Stern - Upside downside
Pat Metheny - Offramp

And what about Becker&Fagen?
That's for me is out of category


Date: Sun Jan 29 12:38:57 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: LadyBayside, east

Um, did Hoops actually read any of the posts while he was away?

On a different note, I FINALLY heard H Gang on the radio">99.5 in NY) today. I have heard the single before, but this was the first time I'd heard it spontaneously, instead of my own repetitive and obsessive playing of said single.

LadyBayside, the Nightfly


Date: Sun Jan 29 12:38:56 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ed beatty,

Jim

Yes as always

Thank you

ed


Date: Sun Jan 29 00:35:13 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

You're welcome ;-)


Date: Sat Jan 28 23:41:43 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: hoops, breezin' through

Thanks so much for your very generous patience and support while I was away. Very much appreciated.

Sincerely,

jim


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:48 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Lordship: If those posts look insane...that's because they are! Just another TROUT who can't spawn. Ignore.



Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:46 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph,

Blogbert, thanks! Them AQ dudes aren't too shabby, the first album is kind of blah, but the second is quite nice.


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:44 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: blogbert,

If you like Steely Dan, you'll also like Anomalous Quintet.

Check it out...
http://www.anomalousquintet.com
(also available at itunes)

(Brought to you by the Lincoln Media group)


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:43 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: His Lordship To Be, Worldlywise, I Realize, That Everybodys Crazy...Am I myself Or Just Another Freak?

Not sure how much attention I'll pay someone who writes 'steely dan and their white trash fans'.

I could go into another rant about music and Steely Dans brilliance, but you jut don;t seem like the kinda guy who'd listen.


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:36 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Mr. Lapage,

Nice article in the Cincy Enquirer about Aja. Great job, guys!

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060126/ENT04/601270340/1025/LIFE


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:34 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: His Lordship To Be, Special

I'm not sure how I feel about having special needs, I'm thinking it kind of detracts from the wider point I'm trying to make-but hey!

Nothing ever seems to work! Lets all just give in to brrminess">one of the many totally made up words I come along in my strange little life)


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:33 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Chan, Boston

Thanks Fezman I've been to the Opera House a couple of times since the renovatioin and you are 100% right, it is going to be a great venue. Its comfortable and the sound is A1. This really will be the best way to see DF. As great as seeing the Dan in large concert halls has been, their music really lends itself to smaller places like the Opera House. If you've seen the live DVD you know how the smaller stage and hall makes that show. The acoustics in the Opera House will make it a memorable night.


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:31 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: His Lordship To Be, Worldlywise, I Realize, That Everybodys Crazy...Am I myself Or Just Another Freak?

Yeah-If you, undoubtedly like many others-don't like the bluebook or any of the site-WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT IT AND POSTING TO IT? There is no point in posting a supposedly smart or neat comment if all you're trying to achieve is to make people unhappy!
Hoops does a good job keeping the site up-to-date and making sure the trash doesn;t get let in, and everyone here should be allowed whatever they want-so long as it ISN'T DESIGNED TO HARM!

Rajah Got Married... I'm not sure if this some kind of joke or something really offensive, so for now I'll just sit here making brrm brrm noises by humming and flickingmy lips at the same time.

Look kids! I can act like a two year old! Brrm brrm, mama, poppa, fizzle wozzle, binky...

NO OFFENCE INTENDED



Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:28 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Stevie D, Beantown

Hey Mark,

I am only hoping im not in the last seat 7th row stage right or left, that would piss me off.. i will say, Fez is right, the acoustics in this place are off the charts...

U are right there are plenty of watering holes around there to meet, I plan on taking a half day and leaving my office at noon to start "getting in the mood" maybe we can all agree on a place.


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:28 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: bojiro, Mid at West

H-GANG! Buy it! Burn it! Revel in it!


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:27 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah, L.A.

Yeah, another candidate for the diplomatic corps.




Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:26 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: willie,

Master of the web- Don't do us any favors.


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:26 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: fezman, boston

Mark D...fanuel hall is 10 minute walk from venue,now there's where to meet!!....pick your poison for watering hole, plenty of food also, let me know.... Paul M


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:25 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: fezman, boston

chan...in regard to concern about seating at opera house....seats about 1100, and if your in first 30 rows you are no more than 100 feet from stage. you will not believe how awesome this place is for music,you will love it..... the fez


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:24 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SMOKE SOME KILL, etc.

Noncomedogenic, if you have not yet discovered the greatness of kamakirad, you never will...



Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:23 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Deaconblue - Is "Tales From The Hudson" not one of the finest jazz cd's?? That one is ALWAYS nearby!


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:23 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: e,

Keep it down "Mu Gu" Gai Pan.


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:21 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS, the city of the great Toots Thielemans

Hallo freia,
TC MATIC en Arno da's niet slecht.
Hoe kom jij op dit forum terecht?
Ben jij echt een Marollienne?


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:08 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Freia, Marollen

Awel zulle! Deaconblue, ge zijt zeker en vast verdwaald, nietwaar?
Zolang u maar een plezante tijd heeft, is het goed.
Kent u de muziek van TC Matic?


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:07 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Noncomedogenic,

At best, Kamamiriad was a nice, little, playing it safe, I'm-coming-out-of-a-funk, holding-pattern, musical travelogue.
It was way too story-laden. The music supported the story rather than vice-versa. None of the songs really">ironically) "go anywhere" - no strong melodies on any of the first 3 songs or the last one.
(I've heard live bootleg versions of "Countermoon" and "Teahouse..." and they are lifeless, stagnant entities.)
Even though Uncle Don didn't want to sound">to use his own word) "didactic" he accomplished just that.
But that was then(1993) and this is now(2006) - he's a different guy.
As far as we know, the Black Dog has left him">or is under control) and he has achieved upteen successes, both personally and professional along the way.
So I suspect "...Cat" will be a gutsier, braver and perhaps fearless animal.



Date: Sat Jan 28 22:02:07 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Vincent Egan, Glasgow

Hotcha, squared the circle and nabbed a ticket for the Borgata, Atlantic City. Now up for wing-dings, Cuervo Gold, fine Columbian, ma huang tea, and anything else to help combat the time difference">the concert will start 2 am my body time as i fly in the day before). If any danheads are going back to New York that evening after the show, are they interested dropping yours truely near his midtown New York flophouse?


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:01:59 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS, the city of the great Toots Thielemans

In my cars Cd loader:
1.BOZ SCAGGS - FADE INTO LIGHT
2.DONALD FAGEN - Compilation of his two discs
3.JAMIE CULLUM - CATCHING TALES
4.STEELY DAN - SHOW BIS KIDS 2
5.MICHAEL BRECKER - TALES FROM HUDSON
6.GONZALO RUBALCABA - LIVE IN HAVANA

And....still waiting for Morph


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:01:30 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Chan, Boston

Boston Rag, I was at both of those shows as well. It was awesome the first nite not knowing what to expect. Not many people had ever seen them. The instrumental intro of Royal Scam, Bad Sneakers and Aja was great. Then Green Earings......Its like it was yesterday. I still have my Aja T-shirt from that one. I was not planning on going the second nite but I went back and got seats in the parking lot and it was just as good.


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:01:29 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: suedave, Go Hawks!

I have to agree with DEACONBLUE about being cautious about judging other people's music...though I must admit that I can't understand why some of the music that sells extremely well is so lame while what we like is sublime yet doesn't appeal to the masses. I'd also guess that musically, we have more discerning tastes than the masses in our ability to appreciate fine tunes, fine production, fine players, fine chiba...you know. Oh well, we are special, aren't we??!

Also re: Jamie Cullum - I've got one of his CD's because it has an awesome version of Wind Cries Mary - a jazzer doing a Hendrix tune. I've heard he puts on a great show. I tried getting tickets here but seemed to miss getting good seats at either the pre-sale or the regular sale but I've not given up on getting good seats just yet.


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:01:23 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Boston Rag,


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:01:22 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Chan, Boston

Boston Rag, where is the fine print that says first 7 rows for your 5 star tickets? I bought the 4 star package and my confirm just says "thanks for your order of 2 4 stars". It does not specify rows or anything else.

I ordered under the assumption that they were in the first 20 rows, 5 stars were supposed to be in the first 10.


Date: Sat Jan 28 22:01:20 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS, the city of the great Toots Thielemans

I don't know if anyone red my message this morning but it was a tip for the Dan Chicago gangers the 3/18.
Five days earlier there is JAMIE CULLUM comming in concert.
Believe it or not bit he's really a killer.
You guys always talking about the jazz Chick but he is the Jazz Kidd.
He is in concert the 3/13 in Chicago.
I saw himin december 2005 in Brussels where he give a terrific show.
there were two songs featuring our N ational proud Toots Thielemans.
It was a really magical night.
Jammie Cullum makes part of the future.He is a great performer and a sublime pianoplayer.


Date: Fri Jan 27 18:35:39 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Boston Rag,


Date: Fri Jan 27 17:59:55 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Aja, just visiting from the yellow

Hello all,

Just checking if anyone is planning on going to the San Diego show. Don't worry, temps probably won't be 45 degrees">most likely 15-20 degrees warmer, actually), the location isn't in Alpine, it's on an Indian reservation just east of Lakeside. It's still a drive from San Diego, about 30 minutes away, but the reservation hosts a number of good acts throughout the year, so that's probably why Fagen chose it.

Calling ed beatty! I sent you an e-mail, but never heard back from you......

Hi, hoops! Will you be coming down San Diego way?


Aja


Date: Fri Jan 27 17:10:23 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

Googling around for things and came across this page which appears to be offering tix to the Mar 4 Tower Theatre show...

http://www.vividseats.com/shop/viewTickets.shtml?productionId=346836&Image42.x=27&Image42.y=10
______________________________________________________________________

WARNING: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING PERSONALLY ABOUT THE ABOVE SITE AND DO NOT ENDORSE ANYONE USING IT TO OBTAIN TIX!!!
______________________________________________________________________

Available seats are listed as Row HH or Row OO. Drop down menu lets you choose 2, 4, or 6 seats. I see no indication though of exactly WHICH seats they are so there may be no way to tell if they're far right, left, or in the middle.

Current price is $152.50 per ticket, but there's a box to enter a "notify me if the price drops below $xxx.xx" figure.

The regularly priced tickets go on sale saturday, so I'm not interested in this offer, but thought I'd post it just on the off chance someone else might be. The rows seem to be within the 20-row VIP area, but I have no way of knowing if the VIP "stuff" is included in the price. Somehow I doubt it.


Date: Fri Jan 27 17:10:23 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

lovethisgig: "My guess is their music is so sophisticated, it doesn't lend itself to immitation, upon which movements like that are built"

You're are absolutely right. That also beeing the reason why it doesn't make any sense comparing them to other acts. And the reason why you spend your entire time in between Dan, Don or Walt releases looking for similar music, without any luck.


Date: Fri Jan 27 17:10:23 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SteveM, Scotland

Declan

Half way through the jam Glen turned to me and asked if I wanted to take the solo!

Being primarily a bass player I decided discretion was the better part of valor and told him to do it himself.

I have no regrets whatsoever!!

Steve


Date: Fri Jan 27 13:52:32 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Declan, Memphis

SteveM, if I remember correctly, the acoustic version of "Take Me I'm Yours" includes a particularly righteous guitar solo. Awesome to hear that you got to jam on that.


Date: Fri Jan 27 12:48:02 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah, wait a sec here

Ya know, WTF, IS Donald doing outdoors at a 1200 seat venue in Alpine Valley in March? SOH remark gives me pause, this place makes Pechanga look like the center of the known universe.

Possibilities:

1)Donald's got a gaming habit going
2)He has a chick stashed somewhere down in San Diego county
3)Pechanga and Viejas are somehow connected and he's doin a 2 for 1
4)Walter comes aboard and they can have a warm up gig
5)He wants to nosh down at the annual Pie Festival">I kid you not)

Then he plays a beautiful old movie house the next night in Santa Barbara in the heart of town, 2000 seats.

Curiouser and curiouser...


Date: Fri Jan 27 12:48:01 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SteveM, Scotland

Max

Great to hear you mentioning Glen Tilbrook

Caught him live on a solo tour in a pub in Dundee a couple of years back and he was superb, really got the crowd">about 200) involved in the act.

This was about the time when a cover of Lou Reeds Perfect Day was top of the UK singles chart, each line sung by a different singer">everyone from Bono to Tom Jones, Dr John and Huey from Fun Loving Criminals).

Anyway, Glen got half the audience up on stage to each sing one of the lines with him for his rendition of the song!

The highlight however was ealier in the set where he held up his spare acoustic and asked if anyone in the audience fancied playing with him. Guess who found himself up there with him!

I got to jam along to the Squeeze classic 'take me I'm yours' with him and never stopped grinning for a week afterwards!

Nice man happy memories!

Steve


Date: Fri Jan 27 12:48:01 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Steely Jan,

Here is a website where you can stream H Gang. http://www.mp3.com/albums/20090517/summary.html

I saw a movie called "Heart of Gold" that is basically a Neil Young concert last night at the Sundance Film Festival. If you like Neil don't miss it. He can still sing like he did when he was in Buffalo Springfield.

See you in Las Vegas and Temecula.


Date: Fri Jan 27 11:28:31 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: max webster,


off topic a bit, but there is a splendid DVD release this week called "One For The Road" that chronicles a solo acoustic tour of the US by Glenn Tilbrook, a guy who i think is one the better pop songwriters of all time.... his shows are incredibly entertaining AND this documentary is fantastic ...

"A very funny, unique travelogue that stays with you long after the credits roll." Ian Gittins/Q Magazine

"Glenn is the antithesis of Spinal Tap rock delusion and in this film, he comes across as the hardcore troubadour who loves what he does." Peter Curran/BBC

"Glenn is a great artist. He's had a stellar career and would have one in journalism if he were so inclined. I love him. You will too." Randy Newman

"When I first met Glenn, I thought he could write songs like Brian Wilson and play guitar like Jimi Hendrix. I knew he was going to go places and with this DVD he has!" Jools Holland/BBC


Date: Fri Jan 27 11:28:31 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: max webster,


off topic a bit, but there is a splendid DVD release this week called "One For The Road" that chronicles a solo acoustic tour of the US by Glenn Tilbrook, a guy who i think is one the better pop songwriters of all time.... his shows are incredibly entertaining AND this documentary is fantastic ...

"A very funny, unique travelogue that stays with you long after the credits roll." Ian Gittins/Q Magazine

"Glenn is the antithesis of Spinal Tap rock delusion and in this film, he comes across as the hardcore troubadour who loves what he does." Peter Curran/BBC

"Glenn is a great artist. He's had a stellar career and would have one in journalism if he were so inclined. I love him. You will too." Randy Newman

"When I first met Glenn, I thought he could write songs like Brian Wilson and play guitar like Jimi Hendrix. I knew he was going to go places and with this DVD he has!" Jools Holland/BBC


Date: Fri Jan 27 11:28:31 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: max webster,


a link to Glenn's DVD:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BVNSBQ/qid=1138382675/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/103-5656530-0434256?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130


Date: Fri Jan 27 11:18:54 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Chai_Latte, workin, where else?

anybody else spring for the VIP tickets to Borgata date?


Date: Fri Jan 27 11:18:53 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: lovethisgig, atlanta

TJ, the Dan were never leaders of some musical movement, "new sound and style," or "groundbreaking new thing." They were in indeed groundbreaking. But they virtually ignored the British invasion from the decade prior. They were "the antithesis of punk" as one reviewer once put it. They are certainly not grunge gods nor would I want them to be. Once upon a time, they were linked with the prog-rockers, but they were unique among them in my opinion. My guess is their music is so sophisticated, it doesn't lend itself to immitation, upon which movements like that are built. So in that sense, I don't see that much has changed. I do agree with you that it's pointless to make musical comparisons. Live and let live. Enjoy what you enjoy. I'll continue to worship anything Dan.

Crysler, my only point in bringing up Diana Krall was that she might be responsible for changing Costello's musical taste, if indeed his tastes have changed with time. In keeping with Tj's point, I don't have any desire to debate the relative merits of various jazz chicks. Carolyn Leonhart? ;-)

lovethisgig

"Szechuan dumpings, now that the deal has been done."


Date: Fri Jan 27 11:18:53 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: scoots,

One last thing - the passcode I purchase for Donald's Minneapolis show also included passcodes for the following - if anyone can use any of these, be my guest

Password for NICKELBACK in Evansville, IN on January 27th is "PHOTO"


Passwords for KENNY CHESNEY in Omaha, Nebraska on January 27th are "RADIO" , "FREEDOM" and "FORWARD"


Your passwords for WWE SMACKDOWN LIVE in Reading, PA on January 25th are "SMACK0225WWE" and "READING0225WWE"


Your passwords for GRETCHEN WILSON in Columbus, OH on January 26th:
-WCOL Box is "PARTY"
-Special Presale Offer Box is "BUCKS", "REDNECK" and "JACKED"


Your CLUB Q password for DONALD FAGEN in Toronto, ON on January 25th is "MORPH"


Your Hennepin password for DONALD FAGEN in Minneapolis, MN on January 27th is "HGANG"


Your 98.9 presale password for ROB ZOMBIE in Kansas City, KS on January 26th is "therock"


Your password for MICHAEL BUBLE in New York, NY on January 27th is "BUBLE"



Your password for MICHAEL BUBLE in Chicago, IL on January 26th:
-Jam Mail Box is "HOME"
-Ticketmaster Box is "FEVER"
-Time Out Mag Box is "MOONDANCE"


Your password for MICHAEL BUBLE in Richmond, VA on January 24th is "TIME" and "LITE98"


Your password for MICHAEL BUBLE in Atlanta, GA on January 24th is "HOME"



Date: Fri Jan 27 11:18:53 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: scoots, 4th Row in Minneapolis

Passcode for the pre-sale event in Minneapolis is "hgang"

(I had to pay an Ebay site $2.50 for that info)


Date: Fri Jan 27 11:18:52 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Mr. Lapage,

Anybody know if there's a radio station in Philly sponsoring the Upper Darby show? I'll be in Philly, baby">from Louisville - what a great roadtrip!).


Date: Fri Jan 27 11:18:52 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Stevie D, Beantown

Anyone care to comment on how much better the H gang album version from I tunes is than the radio version? I burned it to a disc and put it in my Surround Sound, the groove is just phenominal. I could listen to the intro all day.

Also to Mark in Boston, any concern when we show up to claim our 5 Star VIP Passes at the opera house we could potentially be rows 2-10 either far stage right or left?


Date: Fri Jan 27 11:18:52 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Jeez...

Oh Mike...The point I was trying to make was why do an outdoor show AT ALL...The are plenty of great theater options in San Diego, surely one of them had an open date on their calender...

And if you check the NOAA website you so kindly provided, you'll see that the average overnight temperature for Alpine, CA in March is about 45 degrees...

Have a great day!

SoH


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:17:16 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: scoots, sadly waiting

Update from the pre-sale event in Minneapolis. It appears that only members of the "Hennepin Theatre Trust" are provided a password for the pre-sale event. I have tried everything from morph, nightfly, Kamakiriad, steelydan, steely, fagen, donald, donaldfagen, donaldfagenband

Any other suggestions?

Thanks

Scoots


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:17:16 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: heymike, huh??

hmmm let me think SOH ..could it be that the shows are in MARCH!?!

www.nws.noaa.gov


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:17:16 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph,

Well that sucks, TJ. Sorry to get your hopes up.


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:03:03 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Oy Vey,

It's Fagen not Fagan and here ya go:

http://www.donaldfagen.com/


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:03:02 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: My Old Man, Back in Oregon

Any advance word on the new Fagan tour?


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:03:02 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

ph, it's the same deal with Yahoo! You need an american ip adress to purchase and/or american VISA.


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:03:01 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: I Drove The Chrysler, PA

Don't you mean, Diana Krall, THE "piano bar" chick or THE "cabaret piano" chick?

JAZZ chick? Hell, there are a lot of 'em; candidates off the top of my head for THE jazz chick:

Geri Allen
Maria Schneider
Carla Bley
Eliane Elias



Date: Fri Jan 27 10:03:01 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, California Dreamin'

Wondering why DF chose to make the newly-added San Diego show the only outdoor venue on this small theater tour...Maybe some sort of precursor to a summer Dan swing in smaller outdoor settings">ala Maui?)

Also, the show isn't really in San Diego but in Alpine, about 30 miles up into the mountains east of downtown at a small Indian casino complex...Bring a sweater...

SoH


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:03:01 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

Quickly on Diana Krall: she had been, up until these latest records, a proficient interpreter of standards. Her best for my money was a record called "All for You," a tribute to the music of Nat King Cole, where she played some muscular Tin Pan Alley and bebop piano. In fact, she's an accomplished pianist who can cover a lot of territory. Then the star-maker machinery kicked in about 3-4 years ago and you can guess what happened, they dolled her up and watered her down. She loves Joni, Frank and the late great Ray Brown plus she has awfully good legs and that's a start. The one Diana Krall album to have:

http://www.dianakrall.com/music5.aspx



Date: Fri Jan 27 10:03:01 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: fife, baltimore

OOOPS. In all the excitement it's WRNR.


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:03:00 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: scoots, minneapolis

Pre-sale in Minneapolis starts in about 70 minutes - any suggestions">besides "morph" and "nightfly") for the passcode?


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:03:00 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph,

For the non-US residents who cant get "H Gang" on iTunes, the song IS available from Yahoo! Music:
http://music.yahoo.com/release/28666831

Wow! The things you can find by Googling "H Gang".


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:02:59 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

Anders: Who said that they've lost it???

lovethisgig: The Dan are definitely innovative today. In a Steely Dan context. I totally agree on the developmental chracteristic you outline, and I agree that they are a unique band who deserve to be front row in music history! No doubt. Sure they are innovative, but not compared to when they were actual pioneers back in the 70's. Today they are innovative inside their frame, but that "new sound and style" the groundbreaking new thing, Danfiend talked about, will most likely not come from Don and Walt.

I agree with a lot of what DEACONBLUE wrote. In a cultural sense its difficult to label any music better than other. Instead it's a question of breaking the codes. Lets face it: Steely Dan is music for music intellectuals. Not nessecarily people with music theoretical backgrounds, but people with a deeper understanding of music who like to be challenged. So the point is not to compare them to 50 cent, the point is to NOT make a comparison at all.


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:02:59 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Stevie D, Beantown

"Six weeks left in this freakin Cell"


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:02:58 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: fife, baltimore,eh

Well it's like this,eh. I just won tickets to see Donald at the Warner on March6, WHOO HOOOOO!!!! WNRN in Annapolis, MD is sponsoring the concert in DC and is giving tickets away all weekend. Man I thought I was excited before. WHOOHOOOOOO!!!!


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:02:58 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS, the city of the great Toots Thielemans

I have a great tip for all the Danfans going to the Chicago concert the 3/18.
Five days earlier you have the possibility to see JAMIE CULLUM in Chicago to.
I saw him in december last year here in Brussels.he's really a great performer and a terrific pianoplayer.
by the way, that show featured Toots Thielemans on two songs.It was one great magical night.
Remember this name: JAMIE CULLUM


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:02:57 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Charlie Freak, Clean this mess up

Anyone know where I can score some Viagra?

CF


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:02:57 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Spinal Tap, Amsterdam

I expect H Gang to be released upcomming tuesday on I-tunes in Europe">and the rest of the world)
New releases are always on tuesday on Itunes, but often US-ITunes releases are a week later on Itunes in the rest of the world.
I can't wait!! I stil enjoy it eveytime it is on radio dupree, but i want to hear it in good soundquality.

I really hope that Donald, or steely dan will be doing a world tour this year. It would be so unfair after the EMG-US-tour-only, that we Europeans can't see them live again....


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:02:56 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Anders, Sweden

Regarding 2vN and the question whether SD are still innovative:

I think "Almost gothic" is possibly the best Steely Dan track ever, and "Everything must go" ranks as one of their best and interesting albums along with "Aja" and "Katy lied". So I think it's unfair to say that they've lost it...


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:02:55 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS, the city of the great Toots Thielemans

Talking and give opinions about music is a very hard and difficult thing. I hate all the Spears, aguileras, shakiras of this world. Listening to Rapmusic or reggeaton makes me really sick.
But do i have the right to say it's bullshit? I don't think so because there are million of people that like that music.So are they all cultural barbars?
Fact is that music marketing today,can manipulate the all bussenis.
You have to be beautiful,sexy and sing a little bit and yes then you are a star.Fascist Music bussines can make stars but also kill them and faster then you think.
It's very sad but it's reality. Musical integrity no isn't important, produce money is primordial.
So that between us we're critisize todays comercial liquid shit OK, but let's respect people like Elvis Costello, Neil Young and other Joe jacksons too.
They all are artists trying to create something. If Donald and Walter are our Gods, i am sure that EC is also one for all his fans.
Those fans have also the right to dream, or not?
By the way when will the H Gang will be released in Europe because it isn't downloadable on the Europeen I Tunes.


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:02:48 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: lovethisgig, atlanta

TJ, to say that The Dan aren't innovative today is bizarre.
I go back to the title cut of 2vN. NOTHING like, yet as good as, anything in the Old Testament. Don and Walt trading fours in Greenbook! There are other examples, but I don't need them to make my point. In the beginning, we could hang with traditional
5-man rock band, which even then employed elements of jazz. But then we got the Don-Walt-and-a-rolodex, full-on jazz-fusion, progressive-rock, studio-fathers-of-Aja Dan. And just when we thought we had them Pegged, we got the Me-Slinky-Redfoot-and-our-trusty-angel-girls, big-band-bang-the-skulls-of-things-undead, touring Dan. Not innovative?! Dude are you kidding me?!

And we here in the Bluebook are not the only ones to recogize their divinity -- uh -- I mean talents. Rock Hall, ASCAP Founders, Berklee Honorary Doctorates, Songwriters Hall Nomination">I'm anxious to see how that turns out later this year), not to mention the recognition from so many peers.

Finally, let's postpone a comparison with 50 Cent until the 4th decade of his career.

Kid Clean, I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek calling DK a jazz chick. :-) But I concur with your sentiments.

lovethisgig

"And when the stars bleed out; that be the fever of the chase."


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:02:48 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SS, One more thing

DRUMMERS:">and others)

Any one know who played drums on the Kind Spirit demo from the Gaucho outtakes ?

Am I wrong to think it's Steve Gadd ?


Date: Fri Jan 27 10:02:48 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SS, HK

I can't make it through Diana Krall's stuff.

Started in on a DVD of her playing in Montreal">with Erskine)...and I just couldn't last.

Can't tell you exactly why....but she just does not move me.

Am I missing something ? Don't think so.

I WAS missing Ahmad Jamal, until recently.

Yeah I know the comparison is way out there...but I struggle with the acclaim some people get when guys like him do things with the piano that are truly remarkable. Get his DVD from Germany">Berlin I think) around '92. A stunner.

Henna Gang ? Absolutely. I love that interpretation. Cheeky.






Date: Thu Jan 26 21:19:42 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Geoff,


I've just realized that EC uses a lot of very similar melodic fragments. For variation, he adjusts the overall annoyingness, from tolerable">Allison) to excruciatingly painful and childish">Oliver's Army).


Date: Thu Jan 26 20:52:04 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Doc Mu,

psssst NYB: NICK LOWE wrote "What's So Funny 'bout Peace Love and Understanding."

EC really bopped on This Year's Model, Armed Forces. Chelsea, Oliver's Army, Radio, Radio, REd Shoes, Pump it Up. Great Stuff.


Date: Thu Jan 26 20:18:14 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Kid Clean, On the Dunes


Lovethisgig - Not only is Elvis married to a 'jazz chick', he is married to 'THE' 'jazz chick', Diana Krall. I saw her last year and Peter Erskine was drumming for her. She not only has a great breathy, raspy jazz voice she is also, to quote Garth Algar Magically Babelicious. He's one lucky Moody Bastard.

KC



Date: Thu Jan 26 20:18:13 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Chan, Boston

With all this Elvis Costello talk, I want to share a true story about him.

Way back in 1977 he played at the Student Union Ballroom at UMass, Amherst. This was one of a few concert venues on campus, and probably the smallest. This was being billed as the social event of the season. He came out on a makeshift stage at about 9:15 and plugged his guitar into an amp and began to play. After a few minutes he was obviously upset about something and mid song stopped playing. He played with the amp for a minute or so, started playing again and after another minute or so stopped again. At this point he took his guitar off, and walked off stage. At this point the rowdy and drunk student crowd starting booing and became very agitated. A minute or so later the lights went on and the PA announced the show was over. He never returned. How do I know this? I was there.

To this day thats what i always think of when I hear him or someone brings his name up.


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:44 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

Lord, our prayer is to be saved from "significant" music. Springsteen thinks modulation is wearing a paisley shirt and chromatics are shiny bumpers...

laters, Pidgeons...

Baba Number One With a Bullet on Amazon Rajah!!!!!!!!


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:44 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Mr. Lapage,

Rajah,

I agree with you on Elvis. My second pick in the overrated race is Bruce Springsteen from 1980 on.


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:43 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: NYB,

Yeah but Raj, "What's So Funny 'bout Peace, Love, and Understanding" was a great song. You gotta admit...


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:43 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

Elvis is prolific, his body of work is redoubtable and he's made a bunch of nice records but his music doesn't M-O-V-E, heck, it don't even S-C-H-M-O-O-V-E. He's not fun, he's heavy, my brotha...


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:43 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, ...

Fife...

Call me...#'s in your email...

SoH


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:42 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

Elvis has lots of devoted fans but to me he's B-O-R-I-N-G. Always has been. Lugubrious, ponderous and deadly deadly dull.

WHOOPIE! Free at last.


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:42 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Tall Paul, LoL

I can't believe the meteoric rise that MTC has undergone in one day!
#7 on Amazon. At this rate we reach #1 Next Week.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/new-for-you/top-sellers/-/music/40/ref=pd_ts_h/103-9782697-5623807


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:41 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Doc Mu ,

Danfiend, Declan: The quote regarding Elvis C's disdain">although that was not the word he used) was for the Recording Pratice of obsessivve perfection in Aja and Gaucho. Heck even the Gaucho new liner notes handwring about "Birth of the Cruel" leading to Smooth jazz. No doubt Elvis C appreciates Dan composition and professional recordings through Scam - I've heard that. Bacharach and Dan influences are important in his recordings


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:41 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Declan, Memphis

So, Danfiend, at the end of the day ...

You don't like Elvis Costello because he's a Steely Dan fan.

Where's YOUR loyalty?


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:40 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

Danfiend, I think you are mixing things here. There is a lot of commercial junk, like the things you mentioned, but that doesn't mean there isn't a lot of great innovative music goin on as well. Actually the time has never been better for good quality music due to the fact that production and distribution has never been more accesible,">BlueBook a good example of the last). Music crisis? Not at all. Only in the musicbusiness! Music it self will never be in a state of crisis. But no new undiscovered genre will ever be invented again I suppose. The development will most likely be circular from here on.

I love Steely Dan, and I will always end my musical journeys back home, with the Steely Dan catalog. But to say Don and Walt are innovative today is simply not true. They invented something and decided to stick with it. Which, by the way, is fine my me, and all of you guys as well I suppose.

lovethisgig; Steely Dan are gods, at least to us! Does it make them better than 50 cent? Yes - to us. Any other judgement would be difficult to argue and somewhat elitist.


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:40 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Steely Don, In Living Color

I dont know how accurate butI just checked Amazon and Morph is up to #14 now. Pretty incredible. He might have himself a platinum album on his hands afterall, although we know he doesn't care about album sales. What do you guys think of the album cover? Its interesting.


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:40 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: My Name, Handle, Etc., My Location/Other Caption

Just a passing thought on another potential meaning of "H"...

Henna? As in the hair dye?...

A couple Google definitions...

"This ancient dye comes from the henna shrub and has been used for centuries to color and condition hair. True henna produces a >>>red<<< dye, but today's henna products are mixed with other natural ingredients such as indigo or coffee to produce a variety of shades. Unlike chemical dyes which penetrate the hair shaft, henna wraps around each strand, effectively sealing it with a reflective coating. It is non-toxic."

"Derived from the henna plant, a vegetable dye made from its leaves and stems into a powder. Traditionally, it imparts a >>>reddish<<< cast to the hair by coating it. Clear henna enhances shine. Henna cannot be dyed over since it coats the outer hair shaft, affecting the penetration of the chemical colorant. Highlights - The subtle lifting of color in specific sections of hair. Humectant - An ingredient in skin or hair products that draws moisture from the air to moisturize...."

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+henna&btnG=Google+Search

Hmmm, probably not---too straightforward maybe---but just thought I'd toss the idea out there.


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:39 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: NYB,

P.S.) The natural reaction of some people is to criticize that which they cannot do.


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:39 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: lovethisgig, atlanta

Not sure what statements you're attributing to Costello, or when they were ostensibly made. I've heard that early in his career, Costello was too quick to dismiss a band applicant, a wanna-be Attraction, for citing Dan and others among his faves/influences, only to ultimately hire the guy. Bruce Thomas I believe. And I've also seen more recent statements where Costello cites Steely Dan among his list of essentials albums, his fave being Countdown to Ecstasy. ">Not sure I'd agree there, but I oh how I love "Your Gold Teeth I".) Perhaps the guy's opinion has changed with time? Perhaps he finally had the "eureka moment" that Toth so eloquently describes. He's not the pissed-off Buddy Holly he used to be. He's even got McPartland in common our boys these days. Plus I think he's married to a jazz chick now. Bingo!! :-) Anyway, I'm here to testify that it is possible to be a casual Costello fan and completely obsessed Dan fanatic. Costello is an artist. Steely Dan are gods.

lovethisgig

"There ain't nothin in Chicago for a monkey woman to do"
"It's been headed this way since the world began when that vicious creature made the jump from monkey to man."



Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:39 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Geoff,


Danfiend,

I've never Heard Elvis C's distain for SD, but I can believe it. His holier-than-thou patronizing attitude is right up there with Lennon, Bono, Townsend, et. al. However he does have a knack for dropping in some interesting chord changes - in 'Girl's Talk' for example.

Anders:

The Costello/Bacharach album is just typical. I haven't heard much of it, but I have heard him talking about it,on Freah Air I think. He was lecturing us as if we have no idea who BB is.




Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:39 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Danfiend, Chi

Declan

You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. My loyalties are with SD. I stand by what I said.


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: NYB,

Danfiend,

I hear what you're saying but to be honest Costello is entitled to his opinion, even if we're offended by it. I like some of Costello's stuff but to be honest his best days are way behind him. He's been reduced to performing duets to draw even the smallest attention to himself. He's made some good music in teh past but I wouldn't consider him a major influence in music history, not like Steely Dan has been at least.

Besides, I don't pay the guy for his opinions. I pay him for his music. I can make my own mind up about the other thing...


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Danfiend, Chi-Town

Prince of Wales

I would be inclined to agree if it weren't for the high proliferation of HOT GARBAGE in pop music. Kanye West is being dubbed a genius. Usher's "Confessions went platinum NINE TIMES!! 50 Cent sold 11 million in one week. Need I say more? Music today is nothing but a recycling of what was popular in decades past. Neo Soul, Punk Rock, and Alternative Music's ultimate 3-chord bands are nothing more! There hasn't been a new sound and style worth getting excited about in over twenty years. The fact that this egregious non-musical entertainment is loved by millions doesn't prove its viability IMHO. It proves that music is in a state of crisis, one that a new generation of artists have to fight to end.

In short, Steely Dan is what is right with music. People who dislike them could stand to take a lesson. If musicians cared as much about their art as Donald and Walter, the catchphrase most of the aforementioned artists would be using is "Would you like fries with that?"

Danfiend


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Declan, Memphis

Anders, sorry, that post was aimed at Danfiend.

These aren't baseball teams, guys, you're allowed to enjoy whatever the hell you want. I'll be got-damned if I let someone tell me whether or not to support a person or their music.


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:37 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Declan, Memphis

Anders, that's some ignorant shit right there. You can't ignore the contributions of one artist because of their disdain for another. I'm pretty sure Frank Sinatra couldn't stand Carl Perkins, but it hardly means I'm going to stop listening to one or the other.

Costello has mentioned in liner notes and interviews how SD's Katy Lied album was the inspiration for several songs on the "Get Happy" and "Trust" album">even going so far as to record "Everyone's Gone to the Movies"-ish bells for one song, along with a fretless bass) -- and that he and Graham Parker shared a mutual admiration for "Royal Scam," putting it up there with the Band, Joni and Little Feat's work as the best the crap 70s had to offer.

The only rag on Dan I ever heard was his admission to Bruce Thomas that he was originally turned off by him after he told Elvis that his favorite band was Steely Dan. And that was a 21-year talking at the height of the punk era. And you know? He hired the Dan fan anyway, so put that in your pipe.

To top it, Elvis has employed plenty of Dan sidemen, including a tour a few years back with Peter Erskine.


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:36 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: His Lordship To Be+Present Prince Of Wales, Worldlywise, I Realize, That Everybodys Crazy...Am I myself Or Just Another Freak?

I'm not sure his ignorant opinions on music are any reason for us to be the same towards him.
The way I see it, even if someone is misguided enough to feel that way about Steely Dan, it doesn't mean they themselves produce bad music-in fact-NO MUSIC IS BAD! Nothing that can be adored by thousands of people, and which has all the colour and ever-changing superness of music could ever be bad, no matter what form it's in or who made it!


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:35 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Danfiend, Chicago, IL

Anders,

Maybe not. Elvis Costello has been very vocal about his disdain for Steely Dan. No loyal Steely Dan fan should support him or his music.


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:34 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Anders, Sweden

On another note, here's the ideal setlist for the upcoming tour">not including Morph the cat songs). :)

01. Razor boy
02. Godwhacker
03. Florida room
04. Goucho
05. Kid Charlemagne
06. I.G.Y.
07. Green flower street
08. Countermoon
09. Almost gothic
10. The nightfly
11. Deacon blues
12. Doctor Wu
13. Barry town
14. Snowbound

Comments? By the way, one record EVERY Steely Dan fan should make sure to get waiting for the new Fagen album, is "Painted from memory" by Elvis Costello and Burt Bacharach. Pure brilliance!


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:34 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Anders, Sweden

For those of you Europeans out there who think it's a serious bummer not to be able to download "H gang" from Itunes, the song can be streamed from the following Swedish radio show. There's a brief interruption in the beginning, but apart from that the audio is ok. Skip to 10:10, which is the time when the song starts.

http://www.sr.se/webbradio/webbradio.asp?typ=fil&namn=/ostergotland/diverse/appdata/eftermiddag/sounds/eftermiddag5e.ram&intUnitID=

Take care
Anders


Date: Thu Jan 26 19:25:33 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Lawrence Knowles, poet, title: Song of Desire

Thou dreamer with the million moods,
Of restless heart like me,
Lay thy white hands against my breast
And cool its pain, O Sea!

O wanderer of the unseen paths,
Restless of heart as I,

Blow hither, from thy caves of blue,
Wind of the healing sky!

O treader of the fiery way,
With passionate heart like mine,
Hold to my lips thy healthful cup
Brimmed with its blood-red wine!

O countless watchers of the night,
Of sleepless heart like me,
Pour your white beauty in my soul,
Till I grow calm as ye!

O sea, O sun, O wind and stars,
(O hungry heart that longs!)
Feed my starved lips with life, with love,
And touch my tongue with songs!


Date: Thu Jan 26 13:11:14 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Dan Ease, in here

http://kingpin.jp/hypnotiz/gan-lk-b.jpg

H Gang in google image search


Date: Thu Jan 26 13:11:14 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Rajah: I don't know exactly what the sampling periods are for amazon.com, but their short. So thos sales rankings bounce around during the day like crazy.


oooooh, the album cover art is up on amazon and Morph is now #15 in sales!!! Wow, that's up from #125 yesterday. I could check back 4 or 5 times and that # changes. Remeber the thing that allowed TvN and EMG to debut in the top ten is Internet Sales - the pre-sales all count in that first week...ergo there's oftern a big dropoff in week 2 without a hit single. I've alread heard Morph a LOT more on even the internet radio stations than Cousin Dupree or Last Mall or Blues Beach. I wouldn't be suprisd to see Morph top Tomorrow's Girls, even without a Rick Moranis vidoe that played on VH1, when VH1 actualy plaed music videos...


Date: Thu Jan 26 12:37:17 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Bob,

Just caught that there are two new dates added to the tour.

March 30 in San Diego, CA at Viejas Concerts in the Park on sale TBD and
March 31 in Santa Barbara, CA at Arlington Theatre o sale on Feb 4.


Date: Thu Jan 26 12:06:31 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Stevie D, Beantown

Its amazing how much better H-Gang Album version is than the radio version. Like Night and Day, 5.1 on my System is gonna rock, i cant wait. How in gods name we supposed to sit here for 6 more weeks?


Date: Thu Jan 26 11:47:10 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

I'm down with that reading of H-Gang, the ironic twist or the "uh-oh" kicker being that the very dangerous Denise for all her slash and burn desires apparently settles down with some lucky(!) guy and takes up residence in Iowa or something. So much for the revolutionary spirit it seems. But the film being made about her depicts her voice, dream and soul on fire. We get no inkling she actually sold out her dream for a picket-fence and a gingham dress.


Date: Thu Jan 26 11:33:21 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Matthew, Chattanooga, TN

As far as what H Gang is about, I think tht this song, like most other Donald songs, is pretty much surface layer. Denise was in jail so the band wasn't playing at all, she's thinking of new songs and such the whole time. She gets out, and calls in the Gong sisters to take it out on the road. Everyone thinks it's great and to this day talks about the incredible sounds they heard. Despite that enthusiasm, they go their seperate ways, Denise gets hitched and moves to the midwest. No real news about whats going on, if they're thinking of getting back together or not, but theres a film in production that their music might just work for. I don't know if the H stands for anything at all, or if it's just a powerplay...H Gang as a band name to sound powerful, like H Bomb or whatever. A band goes through a life cycle and fades away, but might make a last show of it. Metaphor for life and all that...

The good thing about Donald albums is that they are fairly accessible...of course, I've always appreciated the depth of Steely lyrics more than the accessibility, and I really do think that's a big contribution of Walter's, and makes me look forward to his album even more. Well, that and my VIP status, of course.

Matt


Date: Thu Jan 26 11:33:21 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Boston Rag, at lunch

Big Fan - Well he does have 3 albums to draw from. Plus, True Companion, Century's End and a few other solo tracks. He did mention a few surprizes a couple of times. I saw him do Dylan's "Down Along The Cove" in one of his out of hibernation shows in the early 90's. It was fun to hear and he made it very much his own tune. I hope he does a couple of things like that.

Mark in Boston


Date: Thu Jan 26 11:33:21 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph,

I was one of those poor souls who signed up for DF's newsletter the day the link showed up on his site...hence, I didn't recieve a newsletter.
Could somebody forward it to me please, or put it up here? Thanks



Date: Thu Jan 26 11:08:45 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Big Fan, at work - will this week never end?

Reading the latest Billboard article got me thinking even more about what we can expect for a setlist. Sounds like much more from the current album C1 which is different than the SD concerts where they limited the selection to only two or three new songs.

Some other possibilities that might show up are the non album tracks from Kami such as Confide in Me or Big Noise, New York. It sounds like DF will be picking some more esoteric stuff along with the covers. Either would be fine by me.

While I digging through all of the Euro singles from Kami last night C1 many of which have not seen daylight for over 10 years, I stumble upon a live recording from the Lonestar CafC in 1991. Interesting to hear DF around the same time as the Beacon Theater dates and what he chose to perform then. Does anyone think that these solo shows">and the mentioned covers) will be more like the Rock and Soul shows, with or without the other guests?



Date: Thu Jan 26 10:57:46 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah, Classics 101

Since you brought this up, ygk, I've been thinking that the "H" in H-Gang is short for "hystero" or "hyster," Greek prefixes for "womb." "Hystero-" evolved into "uterus" in Latin. Anglo-Saxon turned uterus into womb which then evolved into "woman."

Look, I'm not making a sexist statement here and I didn't make this stuff up. Where do you think the word, "hysterical," came from?

Here come the H-Gang...take it away...




Date: Thu Jan 26 10:26:17 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ygk, nyc

H-Gang: Hamas?


Date: Thu Jan 26 09:46:55 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

This looks kinda familiar:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000BVQ9JO.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


Date: Thu Jan 26 09:46:55 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

I somehow think that Amazon rating has some credibility problems, something screwy going on there...


Date: Thu Jan 26 09:32:30 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph,

Holy crap! Morph is #20 now on Amazon! And 1 of only 2 albums on that list which haven't been released yet...that's insane.


Date: Thu Jan 26 09:28:29 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: FP, ny

Hoffman- About an all-female band in prison.



Date: Thu Jan 26 09:28:28 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Hoffman, Queens

H-Gang. It's been close to 48 hrs since I've downloaded the track">and paid for it! Still too soon to, um, "find it" on the web) and after groovin' this whole time, now's when I ask -- any theories out there about what the hell this song is about?


Date: Thu Jan 26 09:28:28 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Gretchen aka Solara, curiouser and curiouser

How good it was to hear H-Gang on the "real" radio the other day! Took me totally by surprise when I heard it on the new Long Island area station 92.9 while driving home! The announcer then "confirmed" a Steely Dan tour for late summer......

G


Date: Thu Jan 26 09:28:28 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: lovethisgig, atlanta

Amen brother Jon!!


Date: Thu Jan 26 08:57:55 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

I find it odd that the DF Borgata A.C. show is listed on the Borgata event calendar with a link to TM, but TM does not seem to list the show yet... And the tix are supposed to go on sale saturday at 10 AM!

The Tower Theatre show has been on TM for a week or more and those tix go on sale at the same time.

Also, it seems to me the TM DF listings are somewhat needlessly complicated with listings for DF nat'l, DF int'l, DF Band, and DF Band '06, not to mention the "no dates scheduled" for B&F. Maybe TM isn't responsible for how each event gets listed, but still...


Date: Thu Jan 26 08:57:55 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: JoeM,

Jon,

How the hell are you my friend? That post was not only brilliant, but also reflects my sentiments exactly... That about crystallizes the essence of what it is to be a long time Dan fan - and the shared experience's of first hearing these unique sounds as they originated back in the early '70's at a very formidable age.

Talk soon,

Joe


Date: Thu Jan 26 08:57:54 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: max webster,

massey hall is a great venue ... it is a small theatre right in the heart of downtown toronto ... if you have a copy of "All The World's A Stage" you can see all sorts of pictures of the venue inside --> this is where Rush recorded that album in June of 1976



here is a small shot from the outside

http://www.sarnia.com/music/rush/toronto7.gif


Date: Thu Jan 26 08:57:54 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Hmmm...

Or better yet, under the rear wheels...


Date: Thu Jan 26 08:57:54 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Buy! Buy! Buy!

Morph scratches it's way into the top 30">#29) on Amazon...

6 more spots and we've got Clay Aiken in the rear-view mirror...

SoH


Date: Thu Jan 26 08:57:53 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SS, HK

TJ...you need some sort of DVD player to play the DVD. Your regular DVD player for films would be fine. It will read a DVD-A or a Dual Disc.

Both those types of disc offer a 5.1 surround sound mix. But you need a surround amp">and three more speakers) to enjoy that.

Still, you will get higher resolution">better sound) just by running a DVD-A or Dual Disc">on the DVD side) through your DVD player if it's hooked up to your stereo.

If you also have a DVD-A player">many DVD players now come with both DVD-A and SACD - the other surround format - built in) that is meant to be better still.B0@

B0@


Date: Thu Jan 26 08:57:53 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

Thanks SS! Sounds like a good investment :-)


Date: Thu Jan 26 08:57:52 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

Question: if you got an ordinary cd player is there any point in bying the CD/DVD version of Morph? Can it even be played on a regular cd player?


Date: Wed Jan 25 22:59:26 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: hoops,

The latest Dandom Digest has been sent, this time covering January 21-25, 2006.

If you are a subscriber, you should see it in your email box within the next 12 hours. If you don't receive it, please email me. Again, the main reason I am in the habit of announcing this here is because some people have been having problems with delivery of the Dandom Digest, usually because of spam filters, firewalls, etc.

The following are the subjects of this particular edition of the Dandom Digest

• 1/26 Morning: Donald Fagen on live radio
• New Donald Fagen Newsletter from Warners--Did you get it?
• Walterbecker.com VIP Treatment
• Billboard article about late Summer Steely Dan Tour
• Special version of Morph the Cat
• H Gang now available at Rhapsody & iTunes
• Danfest Page featuring March Wing Ding Info coming Thursday Night
• European Press Release for "Morph the Cat"
• UPDATE: DF Tour Calendar: Some tickets on sale already
• No Action In The Land Of Cotton!
• Morph the Cat cover art
• surround fagen
• Another version of H Gang
• Live Dan Videos on Youtube
• REDUX: Call your Local AC, AA, etc Radio Station & Ask for H GANG

If you are not currently a subscriber but would like to receive the free Dandom Digest email newsletter">definitely not to be confused with the glorious Official steelydan.com or Official walterbecker.com or donaldfagen.com newsletters/mail lists), please email me or see http://www.dandom.com/dandomdigest

jim





Date: Wed Jan 25 22:59:25 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: bellona, seattle

well said jon


Date: Wed Jan 25 22:28:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Jon, A cautionary tale, but a true one. And then a happy ending.

It was '74 and I was fresh back from summer vacation, sophomore year, reunited with my college buddies, who, like me, were all obsessively devoted SD fans. "Pretzel Logic" had just been released and that semester we would all be playing the grooves off the vinyl every chance we'd get. Being young and foolish, we'd try to play the tunes on crude instruments, eventually toss it in and then end up cranking the album, just one more time...Then play the other 2 albums. Then "party" a bunch and try to play other Dan songs on the same instruments. And this would go on repeatedly for long stretches. It goes a good part of the way toward explaining my lack of a diploma.

Anyway, we jumped on the chance to see them at the Palace Theater in the Connecticut "Valley" city of Waterbury. Ten of us scored 3rd row seats and we piled into a couple of cars and rode down from State U. to see the boys play. Too thrilling for words, believe me. Except we all got completely loaded before">and during) the show. I scarcely remember the proceedings and, looking back I think it's a doggone shame it happened that way. I regret it to this day but, don't get me wrong, I still like a good party. But remember kids, and adults too: strive to stay at least a little sober when you're out there making those memories. If I had, I'd have a better story to tell about the night than I do, which is no story at all. Tsk.

It's staggering to me that 34 years after these guys first became the soundtrack to my life, I can still get to hear stuff like "H Gang", and that unique, unmistakable, groovy "sound" is back in my ears again anew. How is it possible that a song can sound so completely fresh and at the same time evoke reminiscences of the time when it's composer first became popular, nearly 3-1/2 decades back? It is simply the tastiest, hippest sound to come out of a speaker, EVER. And it holds up like you wouldn't believe. It's miraculous in the true sense of the word. Discuss.

I am, as I write this, plotzing in anticipation of Don's disc and tour, and possible tacked-on Steely Dan summer tour. It's a dream come true for fans. And I only hope the boys keep composing and making their Steely Dan magic just like always. It's a far more enjoyable world for having their music in it.

Back to my yellow stripe.


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:45 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Larry, Jamesburg NJ

Sorry about the will will


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:44 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Still Sparkin', HK

My Dear Kjirsten.....


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:44 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Larry, Jamesburg NJ

Hi folks! Dont really post here but I have been reading all the excitement about the tour.Got my seats for opening night so I'm ready to go. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this so here I go....... Maybe will will hear 2nd Arrangement? Orgazm here I come!


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:44 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: mt,

CD Universe has the CD+DVD set for $16.79

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?PID=7031707&style=music&frm=frooglemusic


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:44 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

Ha, he called NYB, "Astrid." Very cute.


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:43 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Geoff,

Raj,



'Blinky'


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:43 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: fife, baltimore,eh

Hey South,
Count myself and Sam in. Sounds like a great idea. Since I'm the one doing all the planning e-mail me and let me know what you need to accomplish it.
Fife


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:43 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

What did he call you, Geoff? Mine was, "Bomber."


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:42 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Geoff,

Just got my 'Personalized greeting from Walter' Haaaaaa!!!!!!!


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:42 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

It's a good natured jab, maybe, at the VIP thing that obviously Donald agreed to in some manner either contractually or through the persuasiveness of Peter Asher. Yeah, there's something somewhat geeky about it but, hey, I might and have spent that for a scalper's ticket if I was so moved. In the end it's just a seat at a concert and if you've never gotten that close or don't wanna sit in the nosebleeds">although these venues are small compared to the basketball arenas) it's your prerogative.

As it is Walter's to razz us for it. One thing fer shur, he's the funny one.

Thinking of all the musical resonances from Steely Dan and Donald's catalogue in H-Gang I'm starting to think this one might/could have been titled, "Everything Must Go Back into Morph the Cat." Most artists would be more than happy with this, the grteatest writers, poets, painters, sculptors and musicians have been self-referential in their body of work especially toward the end or at least way past the halfway point in their illustrious careers. If it was good enough for Shakespeare and the Beatles, know what I'm sayin?


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:42 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Film at 11

Check that...

DC VIP on sale manana at 1P EST...

Also: Morph climbs 45 spots in 3 hours on Amazon...#122 now

I need help...

SoH


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:41 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Warner Brother

ATTN: Jenny, Sam, Fife and other Delmarvans...

The DC show has been posted on TicketBastard...

1/27 at the crack of Noon...No presale as of yet...

VIP going for $250 and $150">not on sale yet)

If you're all going, we should try to score a block of tickets...

Who's in?

SoH


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:41 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph, V.U.P.

Egad, Walter's VIP package is hilarious. A deserved slap in the face to Don, methinks.


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:40 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

I totally agree SOH. H is just a nice place you don't wanna leave! I especially dig the backingvocals. It sounds like Donald, which makes them a little less clean, which is good.

The way "boy" is prunounced makes me think of Michael McDonald on the Aja video, telling about how Don and Walt in detail instructed him on pronouncing every single word in the lyrics.


Date: Wed Jan 25 21:32:40 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Get off the stage, boooyzzz..

I hear so many different references in H-Gang it's scary...

Green Book on the intro, DTMA in the opening guitar bit and on and on and on...Did I mention Haitian awhile back somewhere?

I'm listening to the I Tunes version now and it is flat-out amazing...

My neighbors surely think I need therapy as this song plays over and over and over ad nauseum...

They may be right...

SoH


Date: Wed Jan 25 18:02:51 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: fezo, don't look back

With Morph the Cat on the way, I've recalling the time of DF's last solo release. A couple of resulting ?'s:

Has there been a Donald, Walter or SD music video">not counting live stuff) since Snowbound?

On the Rock and Soul 2002 tour, did Walter only play on Steely Dan tunes or was he on stage and participating for most if not all of the show. I was there for the Columbia show but senility has set in and I just don't remember


Date: Wed Jan 25 17:52:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

Walter's whole process is somewhat different than Donald's I'm willing to go out a limb and bet. Behind the tease of the ultradank tape is the veiled message that he may still be in analog mode and if so, recording his comparatively bare-bones arrangements does not take nearly as much time as Donald's method.


Date: Wed Jan 25 17:42:50 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Kid Clean, Surfing and/or Dying


Just dusted off 11 Tracks of Whack for the first time in months. It's a shame Medical Science didn't make the US release, the bass is awesome and the lyrics are divine. Can't wait to hear something new from him.



Any one going to the Cleveland show?

KC



Date: Wed Jan 25 17:33:36 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS, the city of the great Toots Thielemans

They just played a promotional thing on Radio Dupree.
it says: Walter Becker- Fall of 92 - promo CD
It sounds very cool, very jazzy.
Could it be the new stuff from Walters new upcoming album?


Date: Wed Jan 25 17:33:36 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph,

According to Becker's site, he hasn't even started recording for his new album.">haven't recieved the ultradank tapes yet)
Fall of 92 was a song that was going to be on 11TOW, and it was part of the set list during the 93 tour. Past that, I don't know much more about it.


Date: Wed Jan 25 17:22:32 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

You are in excellent hands, Deaconblue.


Date: Wed Jan 25 17:22:32 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ru with me drhoo, chicago

Anyone else hear "Parker's Band" quoted in H Gang? The end of the guitar solo, just before Fagen jumps back in, sounds like a the end of the guitar intro to Parker's Band.


Date: Wed Jan 25 16:54:19 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS, the city of the great Toots Thielemans

Who can tell me when is the official release date of the single H gang?
By the way i am counting at the LA fans to guide me in march.
Will there be any Danfests in LA?


Date: Wed Jan 25 16:49:42 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: hoops,

This just in to the Dandom Digest from Steve DeRose...


From: "Pudgy M", pudgym29 AT fastmail DOT fm
To: digest@dandom.com
Subject: Donald Fagen on live radio
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:20:45 -0600

I am listening to SIRIUS Disorder">Ch. 6024 on Dish NetworkC dbs), and
twenty-six minutes ago Megless Griffin blurbed that _Donald Fagen_ will
be on Thursday morning's [26 January] Rick Allison show [7:00 am - 1:00
pm ET] on the channel.

Megless Griffin also expressed that _Walter Becker_'s solo album may be
out in the summer.

I haven't heard "H Bomb" on any Sirius satellite channel yet.

Steve "Pudgy" De Rose 3=)>


Date: Wed Jan 25 16:27:07 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, With a bullet...

Morph The Cat climbs to #167 on Amazon...

SoH


Date: Wed Jan 25 16:27:06 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: mr. charlie chow, 'cuse

just got tix in the balcony of massey hall in toronto- row c on the right side... anyone been there before? is it a small theatre? i assume so... i can't wait!!! woo hoo!!!


Date: Wed Jan 25 16:27:06 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: fife, baltimore,eh

WRNR 103.1 fm out of Annapolis is really pumping Donald's show at the Warner. They're giving away free tickets this coming weekend. Thought those of you in the area might like to know. They also played H Gang. Can't wait!!


Date: Wed Jan 25 16:27:06 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

"I love Steely Dan," says McPartland. "Their lyrics and their ideas are so clever and they love jazz. They were fascinated with Duke Ellington. They thought I was some kind of supernatural being because I knew Duke." - Marian McPartland, b. 1918

Suggestions for some fun covers for the Donald Fagen Band:

Jelly Roll Morton - Melancholy Baby, Tom Cat Blues">appropos)

Duke Ellington - Sophisticated Lady, Don't Get Around Much Anymore, It Don't Mean a Thing

Ray Charles - Take These Chains, I Got a Woman Way Over Town

Burt Bacharach - Baby It's You, Walk on By




Date: Wed Jan 25 15:38:53 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: What tha...,

Do you know about this, Hoops???

http://www.cafepress.com/artrossdesign/496915


Date: Wed Jan 25 15:21:57 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ed b, @work

http://www.rochester-citynews.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A4153



SUPERNATURAL


Date: Wed Jan 25 15:13:07 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph,

Usually when I preorder an album or a movie, it shows up a day or two early. But most of my shipments do arrive before expected, so maybe its just the dead central location of my hometown... LOL.

Rag,
Gilmour has a new solo album coming out March 6...sounds like it's going to be killer. I probably wont buy it until the 7th when I pick up Fagen's, so it's going to be a dilemma deciding which to play first...!


Date: Wed Jan 25 14:15:10 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: LadyBayside, over there

I believe Donald recorded some music for Big Momma's House 2, right? Nothing like post apocalyptic angst to fit in with the tone of a man in a fat suit.

Actually, sounds like a line from Book of Liars.

LadyB

Fezman, check your email.


Date: Wed Jan 25 14:15:10 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: fezman, boston

LadyB,i definately want those tickets,please contact me,i believe we met at the nyc danfest we had at pete's bar a couple of summers ago,hoop's know's who i am.....thanks paul


Date: Wed Jan 25 14:15:10 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Stevie D, Beantown

Boston Rag and Fittest..

Now if pre ordring meant I got it in my slimy little hands on March 5th sayyyyy IM ALL IN BABY...

See you at the Opera House!!!!


Date: Wed Jan 25 13:40:30 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: movie lover, llllllllllloveit lovit lovit

LadyB: BigMomma's house is fantastic, awesome, terrific, intelleckchual highpoint.
really.

and I mean that.


Date: Wed Jan 25 13:30:59 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: fezman, boston

ladybayside,interested in tickets for L.I but your e-mail is not any good can you give me the info?.......ty.....paul


Date: Wed Jan 25 12:57:33 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: LadyBayside, over here

So I go to read the article on a possible summer tour online from the link that Ed posted, and as I am reading, I notice a rather large ad for Big Momma's House 2 on the page. Can't think of a bigger mismatch than Fagen and that kind of dreck. Struck me as odd.

I will be posting to St. Al's ticket exchange, but if anyone is in need of seats for Westbury, now known as North Fork Theater in LI, let me know. I have an extra pair.

On an especially cheery note, I am off to Social Security to wait in line to change my name. And it's only Wednesday, not Black Friday.

LadyB


Date: Wed Jan 25 12:57:33 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Boston Rag, at work

Stevie D - On June 10, 2003 when EMG was released, there were other big acts with CDs being released on the same day: Radiohead, Fountains of Wayne, Metallica, so Tower Records opened at midnight.
You can't get it any sooner than that.

Now I'm curious as to what other Cds are being released on March 7.

Mark in Boston


Date: Wed Jan 25 12:57:33 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Professor Irwin Corey, gather and surmise

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001884077


"Steely Dan Mulling Summer Shows


January 24, 2006, 4:30 PM ET

Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.
Steely Dan is mulling a series of performances near the end of the summer, which would be the band's first since the fall of 2003. At present, it's unclear how many dates may be in the offing. First up, group member Donald Fagen will embark on his maiden solo tour in March and **may extend that trek into the summer.**

"It depends on how my shows go and if there's a demand for it," Fagen told Billboard.com when asked if Steely Dan would mount a full tour or just play select shows.

It's also too early to predict when the veteran jazz/rock act will begin work on a new album, which will be the follow-up to 2003's "Everything Must Go." Says Fagen, "Not until after the summer, that's for sure. [Guitarist] Walter [Becker] is also working on his own solo album right now. He went into the studio a month or two ago, but I haven't heard any of it yet."

Fagen's tour comes in support of the album "Morph the Cat," due March 7 via Reprise. He will be backed on the road by a number of the musicians that play on the disc, including guitarists Jon Herrington and Wayne Krantz, drummer Keith Carlock and bassist Freddie Washington.


"I will probably do a lot of the new album and then some stuff from my previous solo albums," Fagen speculates about the tour set list. "Then, a couple of Steely Dan tunes and maybe some surprise tunes or covers I've been thinking about."



Date: Wed Jan 25 12:57:33 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: fife, baltimore,eh

Daddy G thanks so much for the information! It's greatly appreciated.

 


Date: Wed Jan 25 12:36:32 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Bob,

Also in the Billboard article that Ed posted a link to. Talks about late summer SD tour too.


Date: Wed Jan 25 12:36:32 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Murray, Tyler, TX

Didn't see that info on Carlock's Web site. Where should we be looking?


Date: Wed Jan 25 12:28:31 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

It was posted here yesterday ostensibly from kiethcarlock.com.


Date: Wed Jan 25 12:28:30 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Murray, Tyler, TX

Where was the announcement about Krantz, Herington, and Carlock?


Date: Wed Jan 25 12:28:30 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

Yeah Max, no satisfaction ever from TM and their evil ways...

Lost in all this was the announcement from Keith Carlock that Wayne Krantz will be on this tour together with Jon Herington. Really excited to hear Ready Freddie Washington, here's something I believe we missed:

http://www.guitarboutique.com/celeb_2.html

Donald covering "Forget Me Not?"


Date: Wed Jan 25 11:32:32 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: hoops, just passin' through

Hey kids...

It's Wednesday and there is still a stack of "The Reader"'s hanging out in the lobby of where I work. They toss them into recycling at the end of the day to make room for new ones. I mention this since they feature a 1/4 page ad of Donald Fagen's appearance at the Chicago Theatre. If you want one, please EMAIL ME your US Mail address and I will send it to the first 15 or so people. Note this is a newsprint-style ad and I will send first to those who are attending the Chicago show but live outside the Chicago area. Blah, blah, blah.

hoopsie


Date: Wed Jan 25 11:24:47 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: scoots, minneapolis

The pre-sale for the Minneapolis show is on 1/27. Any help with the passcode would be greatly appreciated! ">I do realize that thus far the passcodes have been "nightfly" and "morph".)


Date: Wed Jan 25 11:24:46 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: THE FITTEST,

stevie d, you re 100 % right!



Date: Wed Jan 25 10:57:41 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Stevie D, Beantown

My experience with pre-ordering Cd's is I can pick it up at Tower Records the day of release, are we promised to have the CD delivered on the day of release if we pre-order? My point is.... What's the point if pre-ordering???

Stevie D.


Date: Wed Jan 25 10:57:41 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: here is the link for Toronto presale,



http://www.ticketmaster.ca/promo/24838

password= morph

hopefully this works for you guys, if you want


Date: Wed Jan 25 10:36:15 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: max webster,

holy fer holy ...

i bought two tickets for the Massey Hall show approx 30 seconds after the presale started and got tickets in the balcony.....

i'm very excited, but ....


Date: Wed Jan 25 10:16:24 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Doc Mu,

KDawg, love: I could be wrong, but my understanding is there will be TWO separate discs">ergo the $22 price tag), and NOT a dual disc which are notorious for compatability problems. One on Morph will be an an audio CD and the second DVD-A with both 5.1 AND hiQ Stereo.

In Roger Friedman's gossip section">where we got first solid lead on Morph)

Under "Low Sales: Record Company Panic"


"Is there any good news? Well, I havenC-t heard them yet, but those whoC-ve gotten early earfuls of new CDs by veterans Donald Fagen and Paul Simon say they are phenomenal."


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,182723,00.html


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:56:18 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

Anyone know what the bonus DVD that you get with Morph is? Taxicab Confessions Part Deux?


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:56:18 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS, the city of the great Toots

It looks like 2006 is gonna be the year,isn't it? First a Fagen solo tour and surely followed up by a Walters solo one.
And last but not least a Steely dan indian summer tour.
I hope Donald have the intention to pass in Europe because there are a lot of fans there too.
I decided not to wait the news. There is something inside of me that told me to go and be there in the USA in march.Something for all the money in the world not to miss. Something historical in the life of a Danfan.
Well i've got my ticket for the 3/27 in LA and i hope to go the 3/25 to Temecula too with some other Danfans.
In the meantime still waiting for Morph the pussycat.


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:56:18 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: lovethisgig, atlanta

KDawg,

My guess would be the that it's the whole album in DVD-Audio">96 kHz, 5.1 surround). Maybe a dual disc with a DVD-A side? Fagen's other solo stuff is available in DVD-A, as are EMG, 2vN, and Gaucho.

Amen Josey

lovethisgig
atlanta


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:39 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Daddy G., P.S.

..and yes, I really would think they ought to explicitly note the capacity info somewhere obvious on their own website, but oh well...


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: LGreen, Still in Wisconsin

I should have included the direct URL:

http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?userid=WM0wRZxCPM&EAN=93624997627&ITM=2


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

Fife, I did some Google mining for [ "Warner theatre" capacity ] and found a couple useful entries. At first I wasn't sure if it was the SAME Warner Theatre since the address of 1299 Pennsylvania Avenue was different from the one given in the theatre's website's directions page. But their contact page lists TWO addresses. The Pennsylvania Avenue one must be an administrative office or something because they list that with the additional info of "Suite 111." Then they list separately... "Theatre Location: 13th & E Streets NW, Washington D.C."---which matches up with what the directions page indicates.

So anyway">to answer your question) the Warner Theatre apparently holds just over >>> 1800 <<< as given by two different web pages I found...

http://www.gotickets.com/seating_charts/warner_theatre-dc_dc_seating_chart.php
http://www.sesma.org/event_sites/warner.html

And for others out there here's the Warner Theatre calendar and seating charts pages...

http://www.warnertheatre.com/calendar.asp
http://www.warnertheatre.com/seating_chart.htm


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: LGreen, Central Wisconsin

FYI, Barnes and Noble.com">www.bn.com) has the Morph w/DVD for $18.38, or $16.54 if you are a bn member. And like amazon, they have free shipping with a $25 order.


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: fife, Baltimore,eh

Heads up on the Washington DC show. It's now posted on the Warner web site, finally! There is a link for ticketmaster but no sign of it there. Apparently the tickets go on sale 1/27/06 at noon. Prices are $65 for orchestra and mid-balcony, $55 for upper balcony. Does anyone have any idea how many the Warner seats? Can't find it for the life of me.


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Kid Clean, @work



Walter is the Bomb!!! That VIP package is awesome.

KC



Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:37 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Yeah, I'm taking a huge chance in the hopes that Donald will do another leg of the tour and get into the southeast. Money's a bit tight to do anything else right now. If he doesn't tour the southeast, then my top 2 alltime regrets will have become my top 3 alltime regrets! So, let's make damn sure Donald knows the demand IS THERE!!


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:37 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

On whether or not there'll be a Steely Dan tour after the Fagen one:

"It depends on how my shows go and if there's a demand for it," Fagen told Billboard.com

Are you kidding!?

Bring IT !

A


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:37 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

Alkali">and anyone else who might be interested in the Borgata A.C. show)...

I see now that the Borgata event calendar lists Fagen at the larger">3700 seats) of their two venues, the one known as the Event Center. The event calendar listing also says...

Tickets On Sale: 01/28/06
Call: 1.800.736.1420
or book online at TicketMaster
$75, $65

However, the link to TM just takes you to the TM listing for the Borgata">either the Event Center or the Music Box) and DF is not yet listed there">even on the subsequent pages). I guess he should pop up there soon---by 10 AM saturday, I would think.

Anyway, at least they're listing ticket prices.


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:37 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SMOKE SOME KILL, @

walter becker is senile!
the pseudo-intellectual shit on his site,
VIP package etc., is disgusting.





Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:36 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

I finally got it! Nice!

A little recommendation: Tjeck out Tina Dico, her album "In the Red" is on iTunes USA today. She's the vocalist from Zero 7. This is her international solodebut. Good singer/songwriter stuff, nicely">though not Donald-nice) produced by Cris Potter">sorry not our Potter, but the english producer of The Verve amongst others)

TJ


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:36 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: DWB, ..

Has anyone checked WB's site?

There's a VIP package deal now :-)

www.walterbecker.com


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:33 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Paul Lynde, Palm Springs

Jesus Christ I'm so excited Rajah and I have our seats in the Golden Shower section/next to the Golden circle.


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:33 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

Could anyone send me a copy of H Gang? It's not available in Europe at all. It would really rally make my day, and make the wainting time until march 7. a little easier...

TJ


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:32 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Zellig ">* *)">Zellig, Zenith Zone

Zikes vut squares Zen here


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:32 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: David, Little place I know called Spain

iTunes Spain don't sell H-Gang.
Hear the good 5 minutes one, would be great.
I swear I had pre-ordered 2 copies of Morph.
If iTunes Spanish boys change their mind, I swear I'm going to buy the original too.
My gmail account works fine...

(Hoops: It's that the right way?)


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:30 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

I been up and down the highway in all kinds of foreign lands,
But the song I took everywhere with me has been the Mistra Steely Dan

Lots of my family and friends think all Steely Dan songs sound basically the same.

Hunh?


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:30 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Still Sparkin', Be very, very caerful


Excuse me if this has been posted..but this is a link to the art for the single release of H-Gang.

http://music.yahoo.com/release/28666831

Out of curiousity, I googled h-gang while I was at work.

Asian porn came up....and stuck there - the arrow back was useless. Had to bail.




Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:29 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Doc Mu,


iTunes album version is Da Bomb. Wow.. Amazing instrument separation.


Steely: Ohhhkkaaaaayy. It's $0.99 per song on iTunes and the program is FREE. That's half a beer or less.


Another news source about potential Dan tour in Summer...not a lot of new quotes, but the Word is on Billboard now, so that's a pretty official maybe...ticket sales certainly seem brisk, which may mean an extension...please.....

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001884077


"Steely Dan Mulling Summer Shows


January 24, 2006, 4:30 PM ET

Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.
Steely Dan is mulling a series of performances near the end of the summer, which would be the band's first since the fall of 2003. At present, it's unclear how many dates may be in the offing. First up, group member Donald Fagen will embark on his maiden solo tour in March and **may extend that trek into the summer.**

"It depends on how my shows go and if there's a demand for it," Fagen told Billboard.com when asked if Steely Dan would mount a full tour or just play select shows.

It's also too early to predict when the veteran jazz/rock act will begin work on a new album, which will be the follow-up to 2003's "Everything Must Go." Says Fagen, "Not until after the summer, that's for sure. [Guitarist] Walter [Becker] is also working on his own solo album right now. He went into the studio a month or two ago, but I haven't heard any of it yet."

Fagen's tour comes in support of the album "Morph the Cat," due March 7 via Reprise. He will be backed on the road by a number of the musicians that play on the disc, including guitarists Jon Herrington and Wayne Krantz, drummer Keith Carlock and bassist Freddie Washington.


"I will probably do a lot of the new album and then some stuff from my previous solo albums," Fagen speculates about the tour set list. "Then, a couple of Steely Dan tunes and maybe some surprise tunes or covers I've been thinking about."


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:29 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Chan, Boston

I've listened to H Gang a dozen or so times today. Its a great tune no doubt. I hear so many reminders of other great Donald and Dan tunes. I played it for co workers, family and friends who think I am a bit out there in my passion for his and their music. They all agree, this is so different than the typical music being released these days. They still think I am out there, but perhaps are now more willing to join me. Can't wait for the rest of the album and of course seeing it live!


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:29 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Steely Student, Gettysburg College

Is there anyway that someone could send me H Gang via email or some other method. Im a poor college student who doesnt have Itunes but I can't wait any longer to hear this stuff. What a year its gonna be. Nothing like the feeling of knowing a new Fagen album is on the way. THANKS!


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:28 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: d,

WRITER'S BLOCK = BREAKDOWN


Date: Wed Jan 25 09:09:28 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah, nothing but blues and Elvis on that accordian

Like the Birdflu Pandemic and the next Steely Dan album, the big squeeze-box is destined to rule once more. Take it Walty, make those Gong Sisters shake-that-thaaang and let us see what they got.

Inspired picture, reminds me of the 70s.


Date: Tue Jan 24 19:08:06 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Tom Hayes, San Diego Ca

I too got back from Pechanga where I met Ed.

I also got tickets in the center orchestra section 'C'.

It looks like a really small /intimate theater and it only holds 1200 people. I am thrilled that I can see Donald Fagen at such a small venue.

See you there,
-Tom Hayes


Date: Tue Jan 24 18:50:27 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ed beatty, pechanga

Just in...

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001884077



Date: Tue Jan 24 18:46:04 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: County Jail,

Hoops! That's hysterical!


Date: Tue Jan 24 18:38:40 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: hoops,

Some requested a bigger shot for whatevah...all in good fun...maybe...

http://www.dandom.com/danfest06.jpg


Date: Tue Jan 24 18:38:39 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: hoops,

Boston Rag! I AM ROLLING ON THE FLOOR BUSTING A GUT!!! "Brown Eyed Negative Girl!" ROFL



Date: Tue Jan 24 18:24:41 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Boston Rag, Steely Van

Hoops - I thought I told you Van the Man is the musical guest for the Boston Donfest! Van's going to sing "Moondance" and then Donald's going to come up on stage and sing "Countermoon". Then the're going to do a duet of "Brown Eyed Negative Girl".

Mark in Boston


Date: Tue Jan 24 18:24:40 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: jw, Baltimore

Just downloaded the album version of H-Gang from Itunes. Words can't express how happy I was during that 5:14. Absolutely masterful; simply wonderful. I am so looking forward to March 7.


Date: Tue Jan 24 18:11:11 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: www.KeithCarlock.com, behind the drums

Hi Guys,

This just posted at www.KeithCarlock.com - there is a Morph The Cat Special Edition with DVD available for preorder, release date is also March 7:


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000E8NRR6/wwwkeithcarlo-20

the CD is now listed at $13.99, previously it was listed at $18.99 and $14.99. If you bought at that price you will be billed that amount!!! So, you can cancel your order and repurchase to save the $5 or $1 or whatever:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000E5N62U/wwwkeithcarlo-20


Date: Tue Jan 24 18:11:11 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Eric in SF, down at the Lido

Okay, well I just scored an aisle seat in Row C of the Orchestra for Pechanga on the phone. My advice to anyone interested would be to call them right now.


Date: Tue Jan 24 16:25:58 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: hoops,

You really wanta freak? The night before DF plays the Opera House in Boston, VAN MORRISON plays there!


From: "Art Siegel" arto AT well DOT com
To: <VAN-INFO@NIC.SURFNET.NL>
Cc: <Van-M@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: U.S. Tour; Presale begins tomorrow
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:01:34 -0800
Sender: owner-van-info@NIC.SURFNET.NL

from info@concertmaps.com . this is the organization that has been handling presale for Van in the U.S. for several years now. Note the different time zones involved:

"Van Morrison is heading out on the road in support of his new country album "Pay The Devil". Van Morrison is offering his online community an opportunity to purchase tickets for his upcoming U.S. shows via the Van Morrison Ticket Page. Pre-Sale tickets will be available for the shows listed below. The pre-sales for Los Angeles and Dallas begin January 25th. The pre-sale dates and times for the other shows will be posted on the Van Morrison Ticket Page as soon as they are announced. You can access the ticket page at http://ticketing.concertmaps.com/vanmorrison.

3-Mar Masonic Theater San Francisco, CA Pre-Sale Coming Soon
4-Mar Wiltern LG Los Angeles, CA Pre-Sale Begins 1/25 at 10:00 AM PST
6-Mar Nokia Theatre at Grand Prairie Dallas, TX Pre-Sale Begins 1/25 at 1:00 PM CST
7-Mar Ryman Auditorium Nashville, TN Pre-Sale Coming Soon
8-Mar Opera House Boston, MA Pre-Sale Begins 1/27">Time TBD)



The login credentials are:
username: vanmorrison
password: fame
To manage your own subscription options go to:
https://listserv.surfnet.nl/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=van-info&A=1

Or contact Henk Rutten: hlrutten@ped.kun.nl



Date: Tue Jan 24 14:40:07 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Big Fan, at work

Jodi - I just checked Ticketmaster - there are still plenty of tickets for Boston available. Best right now are the second level cost seats - lower lever orchestra - row T left side - that's one of the small seating sections you'll see on the floor plan. I'd try to getseats out from under the balcony though. I'd consider close to the front balcony seats instead of underneath.


Date: Tue Jan 24 13:25:22 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: jookie, Beacon

Rhapsody has H Gang on stream.


Date: Tue Jan 24 13:15:34 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

WHILE WAITING FOR W.B., DO YOUR SELF A FAVOR AND
CHECK ZIZ 100 % OUT:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000390A/ref=m_art_li_3/104-4994947-9807127?s=music&v=glance&n=5174


Date: Tue Jan 24 12:40:23 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: jodi, western mass

for the Opera House...of course


Date: Tue Jan 24 12:40:23 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: jodi, western mass

I hope tickets are still available on Friday.....when I get paid!!
(if they aren't, maybe someone bought 2 extras?? ;)


Date: Tue Jan 24 12:18:04 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Michelle in California, Oakland, 8 minutes from The Paramount

The first single is fantastic, what a great groove! I love the opening and the backing vocals, there is something sweet and summery about this song, reminds me of the way that 2vN was/is a springtime record. My ears needed this! I'm waiting semi-patiently for the Oakland Parmount Theatre tix to go on sale. Hopeful the VIP won't be too brutal, I can't bear the thought of going to my hometown beautiful theatre and being relegated to the back. Life is short and I think I am going to pay the money or regret it later. I can hardly wait, the last show it looks like in this leg at least, I feel so lucky. Only a few weeks in and this year is already so much better than the last. Nice to be with the like-minded here on the bluebook, thanks for hosting us always dear Hoops!


Date: Tue Jan 24 12:18:03 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Little Wild One, update desk

Pechanga update: DF tickets not available by phone or at the box office until 3 pm pst today. Allegedly, they are not being sold through ticketbastard, so the link on the DF website may be in error, however, the all access VIP option has been on sale since last week.


Date: Tue Jan 24 11:51:53 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: HeyMike, Chicago

H-Gang just popped onto my IPod--Sweeeeet!


Date: Tue Jan 24 11:31:29 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: confused,

thanks for the posts about pechanga but i am confused by the donaldfagen website. it says tickets are on sale now and then it directs me to ticketmaster. i see a phone number below to call the box office but is it correct i should wait until 3 pm temecula time? that's pacific, right?

thanks for your answer and being nice to this newbie.


Date: Tue Jan 24 11:09:01 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph, gasp!

I just listened to H Gang on my 5.1 system for the first time, before today I had only been using my crappy laptop speakers.
Anyways....Wow!!!!!
That bass line is AWESOME TO THE XTREME!!!!!!!
If you haven't heard the song though a system w/ a subwoofer yet, go and find one RIGHT NOW!
It's almost as good as The Fez.


Date: Tue Jan 24 10:26:24 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: John, NYC

nice having df.com alert everyone to the h gang single availablity...... or wait they didn't.

At least Hoops has a forum to keep everyone up to date on the goings on in steely land.

Cheers Hoops. Your endless work does not go unnoticed.

My intern friend said that Reprise/Warner essentially dropped the ball. Maybe because it wasn't Madonna or some American Idol tool.

Did everyone notice the Rolling stone issue this week regarding album sales vs. digital downloads.

Album sales were 600million downloads were 300million. Downloads are essentially the future. Too bad the sound quality is laughable compared to CD's.

H-gang is delightful.


Date: Tue Jan 24 10:26:24 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: fezman, boston

Well i have been listening to "H Gang" for about an hour now and each time as usual it grows more and more on my ear,i really like it and if this is a sample of whats to come i think donald has a real winner with this one...can't wait for march 9,at the opera house,any out of towners making the trip in? hope to see you all.....paul


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:48:32 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Little Wild One, waiting for Temecula

Deacon, check your e-mail.

Hoopsie, are you working on the Wing Ding pages? The folks here are always so creative with those themes...


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:55 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph, it's a grammar profession

Stupid english... I meant "Threw", not "through". Gah!


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:55 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS

YES, YES, YES !!!!! i'vo got my ticket fot the Wiltern concert the 3/27.
indead, i will surely do the trip from Brussels,Belgium to los Angeles and stay there for 10 days . So maybe i can pick up some other local concerts.

Can someone tell me please how far L.A. is from the other California concerts of The Don?


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:55 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph,

Just through Fagen some change via iTunes... not much dif in the album version of "H Gang" than the XM stream. Oh well, now I have it legally.

41 days!!



Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:54 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Chan, Boston

I got H Gang from I Tunes! Time for the first listen.


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:54 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Ann, Borneo

Well, Greater Dandom,

All I can do is give you all my best wishes and say I wish I was with you all! I will be in spirit, but not in body, unfortunately!!
Borneo is not the best place to get out of....not yet, anyway. I'm hoping by the summer that things will be better and maybe there'll be some more touring going on....so I should see you then.

Paul! Get your backside over to the Windy City and NEVER let an opportunity pass you by like this one!!

Peace to All,

Ann


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:53 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: David, Somewhere called Spain

I've registered in iTunes and surprise!!! I'm not American so, I only can buy in the Spanish store, and of course, they don't have H-Gang, "free of the week" section, britney's playlist... I feel like the real third world man, my credit card is not good enough for American Apple boys. Bas*ar*s!! You liked it last week when I bought my new 400$ iPod video personalized "Steely Dan Special Edition".
What can I do for listening the whole 5 minutes quality H-gang !!!!! or even in luxury radio static sound!! E l'era del terzo mondo


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:53 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

It appears the H Gang single is only available from iTunes USA, what a shame! All we get to hear is 30 seconds... but wow, what a production!


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:53 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

Burn it on to a cd, and rip it again. That way the apple-code is gone, and it could hypothetically be sent to whom ever, not beeing able to purchase it, outside the US. I should gladly donate a dollar to the Donald Fagen foundation for it...

(Sorry about the post Hoops)


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:52 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Scotty, Sydney

Rub it in Moray !!

Of course, we can't get it here unless we have a US of A credit card !!!!

The Australian i-tunes store does'nt have it.

Back to my lurking and sulking...............


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:52 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: moray eel, me

Scotty: I'm sure that some kind American will post their credit card info for you to use. As Little Wild One said, "This group is big on paying it forward." The Zone takes care of it's own.

If the iTunes version sounds this good, the DVD-Audio is going to be pure bliss.

m.e.


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:51 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: moray eel, sound

Damn! The production on H Gang is amazing. After listening to a crappy streamed copy for over a week, the iTunes version really blows the mind.

m.e.


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:44 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Scotty, Sydney

H-Gang is available on i-tunes now..


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:44 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: PennyK,

Thanks, SteeveeDan, I did get one of the last tickets. A VIP deal is way out of my price range, as I am on my own for the first time in a very long time. I WILL BE THERE.


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:43 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: anyone notice, gasp, cough

a sudden deficit of available oxygen?


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:43 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SteveeDan, Just trying to help PennyK

Hi Penny -

When I tried to get great seats for the Los Angeles Wiltern show and got totally boxed out, I went to that VIP package site to see what was going on. Now, I know that these are a lot more expensive, but, if you are willing to pay the higher price, you can get within a very close distance of the stage. I found this out even after the TicketZOMBIE pre sale ended in total disaster.

Just a suggestion. Otherewise, check eBay the week of the show.

Other than than, I got nothin'


SteveeDan


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:43 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: PennyK,

Hi Gretchen, LadyB et al - Today was the day for the actual Westbury box office...my only mistake was in thinking that it wasn't open 'til 12:30. It actually opened at 10. SO when I got there there were SEVEN tickets left! And the seller said that there would be 2,000 seats total. Wheeeeeeeee!


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:42 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SteveeDan, Hangin' with Isaac Misrahi on the Style Channel

Hi Chan -

With all these awards shows these days">and most of them are filmed in Los Angeles), you can find">like on the Entertainment channel) people interviewing the "stars", and one of the questions they always ask is about the gift bag at the awards banquet and after parties.

People are shamelessly carrying on about the gift bags at The Golden Globe Awards. So, I'm thinking, with the Fagen gift bags, ... like, what are we going to get, some Mikasa tablewear, or some Clinique facial scrub, ... like, I'm just a lowly musician and band leader. What the Hell do I need with these "civilized" goodies. I could give them to my wife, but with my luck she'd break out in pimples and then I'd never hear the end of the "friggin" Fagen freak bag ...

You think I'm kidding. This is the sad truth people !


Stevee(dipilitory)Dan


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:42 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Chan, Preparing to meet the challenge

Steveedan,

I got the 4 star for Boston. Best way to insure good seats. Don't knock the gift bag. Its only promo stuff, but its good enough.


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:41 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SS, HK

Alkali...may you live in interesting times.


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:41 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Boston Rag, Making Plans

Hey Danfiend! Haven't talked to you since the all-night EMG chat sessions! Hope all is well and I'll see you on the road.

I just talked to my sister and a radio exec gave her an extra copy of the H-Town single. No cover sleeve but it has 2 versions on the CD - the radio edit and the album version. The album version clocks in at 5:16. Hopefully that's the version that will be on I-Tunes tomorrow.



New York........Boston........Chicago...............Las Vegas??


MIB


Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:41 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Mark, New Jersey

This is only a sample, anyone know where I can hear the whole tune?

For free all day long:

http://jamsession.bitacoras.com/



Date: Tue Jan 24 09:07:41 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Merriam Webster, your local branch library

Amusing aside ~~
On the Wiltern's website when you click on the link that reads: "Back on the road again. See what DONALD FAGEN has been up to", it takes you not to donaldfagen.com, but to a domain that offers more results for donaldgagen.com


Date: Mon Jan 23 16:14:20 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SteveeDan, More Pechango Info ...

Hello again Everyone - -

Here are the phone numbers for Pechanga Casino in Temecula, California">for those of you who feel luckier than I felt about the whole thing):

Pechanga Box Office">888) 732-4264">General toll-free phone line, they will transfer you,
(951) 303-2507 C1 Box Office">Direct toll line)

Also, I was told by the gal at the box office that IF the Fagen tickets go on sale tomorrow">Tuesday 1/24/06), the box office usually doesn't open until 3:00 PM PST. Again, I can't be completely sure that this is correct, but that's what I was told.

And now ...

I would love to know who will be in attendance at both:
The Wiltern Theatre - Los Angeles, and,
Pechanga Theatre - Temecula

I would love to get a chance to meet you.

Also, and this is not necessarily shamless plugging ...
At our band's website">www.pretzellogicband.com) we've got a "fun and games" page for all of you Steely Ph.D(an).'s. Look for the trivia page. It's a kind of a "Pictionary" game. In order to find out if you've guessed the right song title, position the cursor">arrow) over the picture, right click, go down to "Properties" and the name of the file is the answer.

Disclaimer: I believe this idea has been done before, but, I must assure you that our horn players">who we keep cooped up in an isolation booth at rehearsals) didn't know about that, and to kill their own boredom and isolation at rehearsals they came up with these "guess the name of the song from the picture" game.

Have fun, and drop the band a line if you would like to.

Good luck to everyone in this great year of our Dan.


SteveeDan


Date: Mon Jan 23 16:14:20 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: gagi, europe

THE DARK SIDE OF 2VN:

http://www.rykodisc.com/rykointernal/databasesupport/album_covers_full/133.gif



Date: Mon Jan 23 15:42:14 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Jenny, Fredneck, MD

SoH, Please email me. I don't know your email address and I've a question and info for you. Thanks Jenny


Date: Mon Jan 23 15:36:19 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Pam, Nice

Got my tix for New Brunswick">Bunfiss to the locals); my hubby and friend">cute, little, single) and I are so excited! We had to cheap seat, but would love to find the other Bluebookers - any ideas?

If all Donald did was come out and do "Florida Room", it would be worth it :)


Date: Mon Jan 23 15:20:22 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SteveeDan, Shaking with Excitement, ... and Guilt !

Hello to all my Steely Brothers and Sisters - - -

Well, Pechanga">in Temecula, CA) goes on sale tomorrow morning, but, I called the box office and they said that TicketMORON isn't carrying this show, and that there are 5 stations that will be manned at the box office in expectation for the rush to buy tickets. Now, Temecula is over 2 hours driving time away from Los Angeles, so driving there to buy tickets is just not going to happen. So, you can call their box office directly, but be ready to stay on hold for some time.

If TicketNAZI IS going to carry this show, well, the folks at Pechanga don't know, and I am going on their information ...

But all of this is quite moot for me ... here's why - -

I buckled under">thinking about how I got totally slammed for the Los Angeles Wiltern show by TicketMEISER), and figuring that I'd be hanging on the phone forever - -

I bought the 4 star VIP ticket package - supposedly guaranteed for the first 18 rows, and - - a gift bag !!! Wowee !!! A friggin' gift BAG !!! I be totally baggin' on the gift bag !!! ">Can you kids say "sarcasm" ?).

So, Mark W., my Pretzel Logic lead singer and partner in crime and I are going to make a day of it down in Temecula. The show is on a Saturday so that will work out nicely.

Kid C !!!
Kid C !!!
Kid C !!!

I am SO sorry. I'm such a flake. I will finish my project, I promise !!! Write to me and give me grief please.


Stevee(hates the scalpers, but paid 'em anyway !)Dan


Date: Mon Jan 23 15:20:22 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: oferase, chino

http://www.wttsfm.com/onair/cagematch.htm


Donald Fagen vs. Cyndi Lauper um...ok my vote is for H gang.

7:45 pm tonight.


Date: Mon Jan 23 14:35:20 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph,

Sorry, I'm a dickhead, Apple is on the WEST coast. But as I said, GMT-8.


Date: Mon Jan 23 14:31:55 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph,

Er, I'm not sure, but Apple is on the East coast, so GMT minus 8 hours? Perhaps?


Date: Mon Jan 23 14:31:54 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Morris, Curiosity killed the...

so does anybody know what time/timezone itunes actually makes new releases available?

tick...tick...


Date: Mon Jan 23 14:31:54 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph, oops, forgot

Speaking of countdowns....
42 days until MORPH!
42-1/2 days until I have all the lyrics to MORPH memorized!



Date: Mon Jan 23 14:31:53 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Danfiend, Ye Olde Chi Towne

I finally heard H-Gang for the first time today.">Thanks Soho.) It's classic Donald alright. I can't wait to hear it in the context of the entire album. As far as what we should expect to be in Fagen's setlist this March; you know he's gonna surprise us! There are only three albums of solo work, so you know we have some Donald-reworked jazz standards in store. I just want to be blown away! I haven't been blown away in a VERY VERY long time!

Looking forward to hooking up with the OL'-GANG. That might do it.
We're gonna Wreck the Chicago Theatre and where ever else we end up!

Countdown To 3/7 and 3/18 and who knows.

Danfiend


Date: Mon Jan 23 14:31:53 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: john, nyc

you don't need to speak spanish the link is in english. that being said the clip is only 30 seconds, my bad I thought it was longer it includes the chorus and the guitar solo. enjoy. ALso, more importantly the release of


Date: Mon Jan 23 12:23:20 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Kid Clean, Mizar5


Set list -

Morph the Cat
New Frontier
Springtime
Your Gold Teeth II
The Night Belongs to Mona
Snowbound
I.G.Y.
H Gang
Home at Last">Walter comes out to do the solos)
Trans-Island Skyway/Countermoon
The Goodbye Look
Confide in Me
The Great Pagoda of Funn

Encore:
Florida Room
Green Flower Street


It'll be interesting to see how close we come to what he actually plays. I'd be very surprised if we got 2 hours with an intermission. I figure 90 minutes max, including encores. I hope we get more though.

KC

Hey Steveeeeee D drop me a line!



Date: Mon Jan 23 12:17:06 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: FP, ny

John- I found the link to hear H-Gang. Now the problem is it doesn't work. It shoots right to the end of the song. It plays for 3 seconds and stops.


Date: Mon Jan 23 12:17:06 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: FP, ny

John- Thanks for the tip on where to hear H- Gang. For those of us who can't read Spanish where is the link to listen?


Date: Mon Jan 23 12:17:06 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

FP, maybe it's because you are using firefox? Anyway, it's only a 30 sec clip. You could drop me an email adress or wait until tomorrow, where it should be on iTunes

TP


Date: Mon Jan 23 11:00:30 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

DADDY G: thanks, the Borgata show is one that weC-re planning to attend.
Along with Brunswick, Boston and of course the Beacon.
WeC-re going to all of the shows that begin with the letter C,BC.C.Hmmmm?
With the Morph released on the 7th and my birthday on the 9th, itC-s gonna be a funn filled fortnightt!

Did someone say that Hink town means Beijing?
ThatC-s what some of us call C+China TownC- well, sort of.


A



Date: Mon Jan 23 10:52:38 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: John, NYC

For those of you who haven't heard H Gang yet you can listen here:


For free all day long:

http://jamsession.bitacoras.com/


Date: Mon Jan 23 10:03:31 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Daddy G. again">Sorry), NJ

Oops. That "direct" Borgata event calendar link I posted doesn't actually take you where I thought it would. Sorry 'bout that.

So if you're interested, try this'n instead and then click where it says "EVENT CALENDAR" of course...
http://www.theborgata.com/main.cfm?Section=entertain00&TabType=B&SideNav=entertain&Content=entertain00

If even that still doesn't work, then just go to http://www.theborgata.com and click "ENTERTAIN" to get started on your way to the right spot.


Date: Mon Jan 23 10:03:31 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

"Gong" means technique or method in chinese. It is often connected with another word such as Qi">life energy) or Falun">The wheel of Dharma).

(BUT: Gong is also a lastname">in front in chinese) as you probably figured. Oriental theme, Aja, Boddhisattva?)

My take on it:
Could it be the Falun Gong sisters? The founder/leaders of Falun Gong's name is Li Hongzhi">H Gang!!).">He is living in Brooklyn!)

"Prison cell": Chinese government imprisoning and suppressing members of Falun Gong?

Hinktown... Beijing? "Now she's good and ready to make a big noise
right here in their own hometown." Revolution???

Bus called "Happy Day": Oh happy day, Gospel - More religion added to the theme...

Well well, I'm probably overdoing it a little. But at least I managed to find a picture of the Gong Sisters:

http://www.pbase.com/lee_family/image/52907798


Good morning everyone, TJ


Date: Mon Jan 23 10:03:30 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

"SD appeared at the Event Center as one of the very first acts after the casino opened in 2003, but the tix were more expensive than other venues by $25 or so and I'd already been to the Camden">NJ) show, so I passed."

I should have clarified that I believe the Borgata show in 2003 was a late addition to the tour, probably because the casino was so new. By the time it was added I'd already ordered my Camden tix. I think that parts of the hotel were even still unfinished and under construction when SD made their appearance from what I can remember having read.


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:41:05 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Media Police, on location

So...is this like Isaac Mizrahi working the red carpet for E?


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:41:05 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

The seating chart that I previously found for the Tower Theatre in Upper Darby, PA, does NOT show any indication of specific seat numbers/arrangements. The chart that TM shows for the venue DOES have that info...

http://media.ticketmaster.com/en-us/tmimages/venue/maps/phi/4674s.gif

So that's one case where TM is giving more info than what I found elsewhere online, but that's probably the exception rather than the rule, especially since the Tower Theatre doesn't seem to even have their very own website that I can tell. I would think most venues have their own properly maintained and regularly updated site and would be as, if not more, accurate than whatever TM shows.

Still waiting for the Borgata, A.C., NJ, show to pop up on TM to compare pricing.">Both the Tower and Borgata shows go on sale on TM same day and time!). The Borgata has two event venues, a large">"Event Center") and a small">"The Music Box"). I suspect Donald will be in the "Box," but I don't know that for sure. The Event Center seats 3700 whereas the Music Box holds just 1000. SD appeared at the Event Center as one of the very first acts after the casino opened in 2003, but the tix were more expensive than other venues by $25 or so and I'd already been to the Camden">NJ) show, so I passed.

Here's the Borgata event calendar for both their venues, but it doesn't show DF yet...
http://www.theborgata.com/main.cfm?Section=entertain01&TabType=A&SideNav=eventcal&Content=entertain01

Borgata seating charts...

Music Box:
http://www.theborgata.com/pix_content_assets/The_Music_BoxMap.gif

Event Center:
http://www.theborgata.com/pix_content_assets/Borgata_Event_CenterMap.gif
_______________

A possibly semi-amusing anecdotal P.S.: As I was typing the above entry and I got to "Still waiting for the Borgata, A.C., NJ, show to POP UP on TM to compare pricing" I accidentally typed "POOP UP" instead, but caught it during proofread. I'm sure many would feel that phrase to be appropriate when referring to TM.

:-)


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:41:04 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: PQ, NYC

OK coochies, the PQ team is all set for the first 5 shows at New Brunswick, Westbury, Darby, DC and the Beacon. Stay tuned to the Ezine for up to the second reports and our Donald Fagen Tour Blog. You never know who's gonna talk to PQ as those who read the old board know. Learn why St Al says "Do yourself a favor and read this book."

PS Someone tell Don's webmaster On Sale is two words! Where's that notorious perfectionism?!


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:31 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: NOSTATIC, Home of the Rag

Sorry gang. I was reporting on the Boston Opera House. March 9th show.


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:30 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: NOSTATIC, Home of the Rag

I went for the 5star vips. Just an FYI. Ticketbastard has seats available as of last night. Some say warning Obstrctd View. Others are at the back of the Orchestra Section and up in the Mezz.
Ebay sellers are asking top buck for some decent seats. Front Rows up in the Mezz and Orch seats that seem to be 20 or so rows back.
For a little more, whether you go the 4star or 5star pkgs, seems a better deal at this time. From the looks of the website the packages are still available. Just trying to help out.
Looking forward to March.
Love the Set predicitions some of you would like to see and hear.
P.S. Got to hear HGang on Radio Dupree. Just had it on and knew two notes in this was DF. Turned it way up!!! Just great...Thanks Don!


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:30 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

And yet another definitio of "hink":

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hink

(I can contribute by saying, taht in danish "to hink" is a game where you jump around on one leg inside som windows you've painted on the road with chork.)


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:29 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Show Biz Hick, Dogcatcher's Posse

http://www.video-c.co.uk/microshow.asp?vidref=supe003&FileType=ADSLstream

If anyone's mad at Tickermaster, stream the above, headbang and sing along :-)


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:29 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, Dk

I found this response from a reader at http://www.lrb.co.uk to a question concerning the use of "Hink" in LA Confidential:

In response to Richard Davies's question">Letters, 22 January) about the meaning of the word hink in James Ellroy's novel, LA Confidential, the slang word hincty/hinkty/ hink(y) meaning 'snobbish, aloof, haughty', found its way into undercover/police jargon as hink(y) - a word that can mean a number of things, such as 'petty, cheap, nervous, jumpy, cautious, suspicious' etc. I">t)hink that there must be some connection between the slang word hincty/hinkty/ hink(y) and words such as hinkin">Old Norse) meaning 'to limp, falter, hobble'; hink">Scots obs.) meaning 'to falter, misgive, hesitate'; and inca">Old English) meaning 'to doubt, question'.


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:29 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: TJ, DK

and a response to the response below:

I was interested in S.E. Yousoufian's assertion">Letters, 5 March) that the word hink, meaning 'to falter, misgive, hesitate', is now obsolete in Scotland. In fact, an apparent homonym is still in widespread use in the West of Scotland, where hink serves as a Glaswegian version of 'think'. Michael Munro, in his guide to current Glasgow usage, The Patter">1985), cites the example: 'Ah hink you're smashin, so Ah dae.' Curiously, in the same reference work, Munro gives the Glaswegian meaning of thought">not hought) as 'something involving great effort or something approached with reluctance', as in 'Aye, it's a thought gettin up these dark mornins.' Perhaps Mr Yousoufian's obsolete Scots word has a closer link with the contemporary Glaswegian hink after all.

Annalena McAfee
London NW1


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:29 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: C,

What's "hink"?


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:28 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: dianeDianeDIANE, SuperBowlville

Daddy G, also:

might be "gone" sisters, not "gong,"

and i hear "moonless" not "moonlit" night.

love and kisses
diane <-- wouldn't bend over to pick up her own two cents


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:28 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Lyrics,

Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 03:40:13 ET
Posted by: W.C. Fields, Gate C13


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:27 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: dianeDianeDIANE, Home of the SuperBowlest Seahawks

Daddy G, thanks for transcrbing the lyrics to H Gang.

I think, though, that's it's "hick town," not "hinktown."

I dunno, but he tends to pronounce words so they can't easily be understood.

love and kisses
diane


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:17 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SS, HK

Never seen that Rob Mounsey stuff before. No wonder they started automating drums.

Gretchen, I like a lot of your set list...and especially Greenflower Street as the first song...but that cold ending could be wasted at the start if you want to do more than one song off the top without a break.

So.....

Ruby Baby
(Extra long vamp. Crowd jumping/screaming by the end. Okay, ME jumping/screaming.)

Morph Track
(Something meaty with feel changes. Epic-like if such a thing exists on the album)

Florida Room
(Keep the energy up)

Fire in the Hole

Confide in Me

Morph Track">Ballad)
(Maxine would be great but because of the tight five part vocal harmonies so identified with the sound...I'm not counting on hearing it. Would love to be wrong and hope he pulls it off somehow)

Greenflower Street
(Nice extended version that goes into an intermission)

--------------------------BREAK---------------------------------

Walk Between Raindrops
(Extended...through in new bridges and solo sections. Remade and even better)

The lights dim and to my utter shock and delight...DF sits down at the acoustic piano by himself.

He plays maybe....

Black Cow">with a little help on solo section)
Kulee Baba
On the Dunes

(say two out of three of those)

Springtime

Morph Track

King of the World

Tomorrow's Girls

------------------------------------------------------------

Encore:

H-Gang

2nd Arrangement


Anyway, mostly hoping to see DF at the piano in some kind of small setup, maybe a trio. By himself probably too much to hope for.


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:17 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: j. roger,

Chuck Rainey is a brilliant musician, but slightly inaccurate.
For example, he says his favorite SD track of all is New Frontier from Gaucho with Anthony Jackson replacing Chucks' original bass part. But of course New Frontier is from Nightfly with Abe Laborial on bass. Chuck also calls Elliot Scheiner Elliot Caesar or something.
But Chuck is right about a couple things - the arc of great feel">due to players such as himself), especially from Katy to Gaucho and much of Nightfly has never been equaled.
And SD have alienated lots of important people: Chuck himself, Gary Katz, Roger Nichols, Jim Keltner, even each other. Elliot Scheiner was on the outs for several years, but he seems to be the rare person coming back.

Somebody screamed somewhere.


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:17 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Informating, aslasf

Kdawg

http://www.chuckrainey.com/bassmanual/makingmusic_sd_1.htm



Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:16 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rob Mounsey , whytheydon'tmakealbumslikegauchoanymore

"What was one of the most memorable sessions you have been on?"

"When I worked on Steely Dan's Gaucho album, I was just getting used to the idea of completely obsessive-compulsive studio guys making themselves crazy in pursuit of perfection. We were trying to do the title track. Most of it was written out by Donald. I was playing piano, Victor Feldman was playing electric piano, Steve Khan was playing guitar, Anthony Jackson was on bass, and Jeff Porcaro played drums. We worked on that one song for about 12 hours starting at noon. The track is complex and long -- six or eight minutes. We had gotten four takes.

To the players, all four sounded perfect; none of us could hear anything wrong with any of them. Donald and Walter were sitting in the booth looking like they had just tasted a rotten egg. They felt it wasn't really working. It was frustrating to us. All of the players loved Steely Dan's music so much. We were really happy to be on the record and were working so hard and being so patient. At midnight, Becker and Fagen said, "We're just not going to get this one. We're going to throw out the song." Then they split.
The band was depressed because we hadn't made them happy. [Producer] Gary Katz stayed and Victor went back to his hotel. The engineer, Khan, Anthony, Porcaro and I stayed from midnight until 4:00 AM. We did seven more takes, and all seven sounded perfect to us. We were exhausted and went home."

Becker and Fagen came back a few days later and listened to all of the takes. They called us to thank us for staying and doing all of the extra work and said, "I think there might be something here that we can use." They sat with Gary and started cutting the two-inch multitrack tape. According to Gary, there were at least a dozen edits between the various takes. Once they had done that and they had this two-inch analog tape with all the cuts, they erased everything but the drums! All of this was to get a drum performance that they really liked. Walter came in and replayed the bass part and I came back in and redid the acoustic and electric piano tracks">Donald later redid the electric piano). Steve Khan came in and redid the guitar tracks, and they were on their way."

"That sounds like such a painful way to make a record."

"Very painful. After Gaucho and Nightfly, Donald took a long break. This process was the only way he could satisfy himself, but it was so painful to go through that he couldn't stand it. Maybe there's something wrong with the picture when it gets to that point. I don't think it's supposed to hurt that much."


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:16 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Rajah,

ph - you are our legacy and our strength, Paul, don't you see? To have someone your age who appreciates this thing of ours is so important. It matters a lot, son. See what you can do to join us.


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:16 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: dianeDianeDIANE, SUPERBOWL BOUND

Chuck Rainey is a brilliant man and his comments were from his heart. It's too bad he felt the need to express them, however, when nothing can be gained from it--not peace or change or any positive energy.

Sometimes it's just better to say nothing even than it is to tell the truth--according to your own reality.

love and kisses
diane


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:15 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

I've heard Rainey had issues with Fagen. It really came to head during the Nightfly sessions. I don't remember where I read it, but he was not happy with how he was treated. I think he was brought in and things were not ready to go. If someone remember where that was, please put a link up for it....very insightful.


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:15 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: ph, *sniff*

You people are all too kind!
Alright, I will still consider going. As you say, March is a long way off, maybe things will change slightly enough. It isn't so much the money as it is the timing. I'll try really hard to get to Chicago, but no promises. Thank you all, and thank you again Rajah for your generosity and kindness.


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:14 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: dianeDianeDIANE, Seattle

I have nothing interesting to say except...

OH MY GOD... Seahawks?

love and kisses
diane <-- watching and biting nails


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:14 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Informant, wherever i need to be

http://www.chuckrainey.com/bassmanual/ajareunion.htm

Do you get the feeling he doesn't like D & W too much?


Date: Mon Jan 23 09:12:14 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Gretchen, Dragon Lady Supreme

How about this one? Just my three cents, of course.

Set 1

03 saw a fantastic version of Cubana Chant - this year the band could warm up with Bobby Watson's "River Jordan" before Donald's entrance.

Green Flower Street - great opening, on a positive note and then there's that great outtro.

Springtime - it's just around the corner.....

now for a new one, H-Gang, the crowd goes wild

Maxine, of course

another new one, perhaps the title track itself

Pearl of the Quarter - a nod to New Orleans

New Frontier - it is the first solo wing-ding, after all

Florida Room - conjures up warm sunny weather in fickle March

INTERMISSION">Give the man a break)

The band comes back on with Illinois Jacquet's "On the Beach"

Ruby Baby

another NEW ONE

Tomorrow's Girls

Green Earrings

Nightfly

again, a NEW ONE

something Bossa Nova or Samba flavored, such as a Gilberto number or even a version of Richard Torrance's "Rio De Janiero Blue."-

Goodbye Look - an appropriate final selection


encore:

KULEE BABA

Teahouse on the tracks">it could end like the fade out on the cd, lots of noise, laughter, clinking glasses)

Again, just my opin.......

G



Date: Sun Jan 22 18:57:18 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: Little Wild One, in gold

Indeed a great year all around. But as Walter says, You have already "got some things" but you may also "need some things" ...

In addition to Raj's offer, the lot of us will make sure you get around Chicago and eat regularly. In my experience, this group is big in paying it forward, so consider yourself adopted.

Think on it, try to make it happen. You really may never pass this way again....

Most assuredly, it's a damn good thang.


Date: Sun Jan 22 18:51:36 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: SS,

Last thought for me on the Wiltern Tickets, other than I'm glad I'll get in: Why are there so many people on this board with tickets in the same place - section 4 row R ? I mean, how long can that row be.


Date: Sun Jan 22 18:51:35 ET, (Time May be Inaccurate Due to System Crash 2.4.2006),
Posted by: fife, baltimore,eh

Sorry about that,eh. Now I know why I hang around here so much, you guys are awesome! PH I'd go for it, it's going to be a wonderful time and the chance to meet some really great people. Anyhow since my heart has stopped pounding and is once again back into my chest, Superbowl party here in 2 weeks, all are welcome to the "S" shrine that Sam and I have built. The wonderfull thing about this room is not only is it amazing its working! Donald's tour, the Steelers making the Superbowl, we'll have to wait for the Ottawa Senators but heck 2 out of 3 ain't bad! 2006 is turning out to be a superb year!


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 19:24:09 ET
Posted by: fife, baltimore,eh

Sorry about that,eh. Now I know why I hang around here so much, you guys are awesome! PH I'd go for it, it's going to be a wonderful time and the chance to meet some really great people. Anyhow since my heart has stopped pounding and is once again back into my chest, Superbowl party here in 2 weeks, all are welcome to the "S" shrine that Sam and I have built. The wonderfull thing about this room is not only is it amazing its working! Donald's tour, the Steelers making the Superbowl, we'll have to wait for the Ottawa Senators but heck 2 out of 3 ain't bad! 2006 is turning out to be a superb year!


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 19:13:37 ET
Posted by: gadfly, on the dunes

Chan is right... couldn't have said it better myself. PH - I don't know you, but I know you will regret it if you pass up this oportunity. And while it's not the only show on the tour, ask yourself this: What is the essence of true romance?

Don't settle for a T-shirt.


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 19:03:52 ET
Posted by: FP, ny

Rajah-- Is six weeks really a long way off?


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 19:00:01 ET
Posted by: fife, baltimore,eh


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 18:52:55 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

March is a long way off, Paul, my offer stands, we love love you sunshine.


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 18:45:54 ET
Posted by: Chan, Boston

Ph, Raj is right. If you are a Dan fan then don't miss this. I've been thru lean times and "green times $$". I never once have wanted to trade a classic memory for a few more bucks. I've been to final fours, world series, and a super bowl. Dan concerts are right up there with them. You can always make more money, you can't turn back the clock.


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 18:30:09 ET
Posted by: Chan, Boston

If it could not be the Pats then why not the Steelers. We are spoiled here after the last few years. Enjoy it Pittsburgh.


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 18:25:09 ET
Posted by: NYB, taking the bus to the superbowl?

Congratulations Pittsburgh Steelers fans!

What a fine ending for Jerome "The Bus" Bettis huh? Enjoy. You guys deserve it!


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 18:13:29 ET
Posted by: Zeitgeist, here

ph, it may be your youth speakin' here and I know you wrote you're busy and all that, but sorry if I call you a fool to not accept the generous offer Rajah makes. This an opportunity of a lifetime!!!!! Come on, go for it.


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 16:50:12 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

In spite of the infinite suck that is Ticketbastard, I managed to score my cheap seats for Chicago the other day during presale (Balcony 3R, Row M, Seat 314 -- yuck...) Shame I won't be seeing you there, ph. Hope to see a few of the rest of you though!


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 16:42:27 ET
Posted by: ph, occasionally glancing up through the rain

Rajah, that's very generous of you, but it just isn't going to be possible. Thank you very much though. I did have a place to stay anyways, but I'm going to have to cancel. Maybe next year, or later this year if they have a full SD tour?
Thanks again and I'm sorry to miss you all.


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 16:05:20 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Yo, ph, I have a ticket and a place to stay for you. The willingness is all.


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 15:27:22 ET
Posted by: Bruce Lee, Kick Fight

Daddy G- The correct lyrics to H- Gang were posted here last week by somebody that has the liner notes. (It is flood lights) This person also says the backing vocals are Fagen. No other voices on this song but Fagen's.


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 14:46:20 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Paul, I'm probably old enough to be your Grandfather, get your bony ass to Chicago, boy, do not miss this.


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 14:39:37 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, the help desk

ph, I'm old enough to be your mother..now get your ass to Chicago on 3/18..no excuses.

someone has tickets and the rest just falls into place. Ask Jude...


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 14:08:56 ET
Posted by: ph, not going nowhere

Daddy, you forgot the "(Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh)" that comes after "Kickfight" or "Showdown". :)


Er, so I've got bad news. I won't be coming to Chicago for the DF concert...it turns out I'm moving to my own apartment. And about at that time, the concert would just be too much of a detour/expense from the mundanities of life. But um, if somebody gets ahold of a soundboard or something.... um....
Besides, I didn't buy any tickets yesterday anyway, I probably couldn't have gone if I was able to!

Will somebody buy me a T-Shirt? I'll pay you in advance!


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 13:13:25 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

Been listening to "H Gang" and trying to refine my lyrical perceptions. Below is my best guess at this time. Choruses are sung in harmony by backing vocalists with the parenthetical bits added by Donald alone. There are a few subtle differences between choruses...

H GANG

I hear Denise is back on the outside,
that she's got a wicked plan.
She's calling in the Gong Sisters again
to form the ultimate five chord band.

For eight months now in that freaking cell
she's been knockin’ ideas around.
Now she's good and ready to make a big noise
right here in their own hometown.

[1st CHORUS]
Here comes the H Gang (here comes the H Gang)
slammin' in a hinktown.
(Oh, you better) get off the stage boys
('cause they'll be) looking for a showdown.

On a moonless night they started off
on a bus called ‘Happy Day’
to bring their vision to cities and towns
across the USA.

And in every club and hall they played
the crowd knew every word.
Even today folks are talkin’ about
the incredible sounds they heard.

[2nd CHORUS]
Here comes the H Gang (here comes the H Gang)
Turn on the floodlight (somebody turn on the floodlight)
Get off the stage son (get off the stage son)
unless you're ready for a kickfight.

[INSTRUMENTAL BREAK -- FEATURES SAX, THEN WAH-WAH GUITAR]

Whatever happened to the H Gang?
Some say they were the best.
I heard they broke up, Denise got hitched
and she's living in the midwest.

But there’s a film that’s in production,
the working title’s “Song of Desire,”
‘bout an orphaned girl with this crazy red hair
and a voice and a dream and a soul on fire.

[REPEAT 1st CHORUS]
Here comes the H Gang (here comes the H Gang)
slammin' in a hinktown
(Oh, you better) get off the stage boys
('cause they’ll be) looking for a showdown.

[REPEAT 2nd CHORUS -- DF DROPS ‘SON’ FROM 3rd LINE ECHO]
Here comes the H Gang (here comes the H Gang)
Turn on the floodlight (turn on the floodlight)
Get off the stage son (get off the stage)
unless you're ready for a kickfight.

[REPEAT 1st CHORUS -- w/ALTERED LAST LINE]
Here comes the H Gang (here comes the H Gang)
slammin' in a hinktown
(Oh, you better) get off the stage boys
(unless your’re) looking for a showdown.

INSTRUMENTAL, THEN FADE…
_______________________________

Not sure if the phrase "...and a soul on fire" might actually be "...and it's so on fire", but I'm sure it's not a big deal either way.

I hear "floodlight(s)" instead of "front light(s)," but I'm not 100% certain.


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 11:36:21 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

And speaking of Florida Room, someone mentioned that they heard some resonances of H-Gang in it. I hear it too, it's the trumpets bussing by with their "baa-daa 2-3-4-and-baa-daa 2-3-4" behind the 2nd set of quatraines of each 8 line verse. In Florida Room we get them most forcefully at the bridge but really all through the song. The trumpets give the impression of movement, they pick things up and move things along. You hear them a lot in Gershwin whenever he makes musical reference to an urban setting, Rhapsody in Blue being the obvious example, people bustling about, traffic wizzing by. Nelson Riddle and Billy May used them liberally and with great effect with Frank on his great 50s records. Donald also uses them in H-Gang to fill in and support things whenever the guitar solo wanes between 2 bar or four bar passages.

Funny how a the sound of an instrument can remind you of so many other songs, like the guitar in H-Gang does of Haitian Divorce or how the entrance of the sax solo here reminds people of Pixeleen or the bump and cadence of WASAM. We begin to hear the continued contribution of Walt Weiskopf to Donald's material, we begin to discern his voice, we remain keenly aware of Donald's musical lexicon, the well-trod paths that he somehow keeps fresh, his signature sounds, old but new, his musical character through all these years. Which is why the guy down the hall from me stuck his head in my office and offered, "that's Steely Dan, right?" when he heard the opening strains of H-Gang.

Now how about that melodica in H-Gang?


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 08:18:10 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Oops...

Well then...

He must have announced "Donald Fagen" and not H-Gang...

Still a nice treat to hear Florida Room out of the clear blue sky!

Bring on the Beacon!

SoH


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 08:10:29 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Work, sadly...

DF climbing into heavy rotation on XM 45...

8:10 AM Sunday and DJ just announced H-Gang coming up in next song sequence...

SoH


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 06:39:07 ET
Posted by: TJ, DK

The waiting time is unbearable. New Tactic: just ordered two albums to keep me entertained until march.

Artic Monkeys (Album released tomorrow, and expected to be amongst the fastest selling albums in UK history - I'm just joining in - Fun music and a clear contrast to Donald-land.)

Pharrell Williams (Album out feb. 6. Mr. Superproducer, and Steely Dan fan, should be guarantee for something interesting.)

My two painkillers...


Date: Sun, January 22, 2006, 01:49:59 ET
Posted by: SS, HK

Last thought for me on the Wiltern Tickets, other than I'm glad I'll get in: Why are there so many people on this board with tickets in the same place - section 4 row R ? I mean, how long can that row be.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 23:51:26 ET
Posted by: Q, TPA

I wouldn't expect surround sound on this -if it were I feel pretty certain that they (not just ticketbastard) would have billed it as a 5.1 show. Gotta push those sales!

Elliot is doing the job, but that doesn't particularly point to a 5.1 PA


Yes did a 5.1 show a few years back which was INCREDIBLE. Best live sound I ever heard in my life - it was in a dedicated music hall too. Even Chris Squire was just standing there with a giant smile on his face at a few points between tunes ripping his bass just to enjoy the low end slam capabilities of the system. It wasn't just the 5.1, but the incredible dynamics and headroom of that particular system they used.

My source says that it will just be top notch equipment for the DF tour.

But, again, we'll all enjoy a treat - hopefully....


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 23:49:54 ET
Posted by: Stevie Beantown, even got censored for what you might ask


hoops got married to a figure skater and started erasing like a dog with rabies


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 22:03:15 ET
Posted by: Ask the PQ,

He is psychic


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 22:02:29 ET
Posted by: Gadfly, On the dunes

Well seeing as the LA show is billed this way on the TM website: ELS SURROUND PRESENTS DONALD FAGEN BAND '06... I'd say yeah there's a good chance we're gonna get something really special for a P.A.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 21:56:31 ET
Posted by: Q, TPA

John, RE your post - I posted earlier that I am hearing that a high end specialized PA may be used for the tour - that would certainly clean up the sound!
The performance is up to DF and the band

My ifo jibes with a lot of what 2 other posts today are suggesting - we'll see - I mean hear......


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 20:22:17 ET
Posted by: TJ, DK

John, NYC: Interesting news... Green Book is a good track, very complex, to complex actually. The same with the title song from The Nightfly. They are to rationel created, and not very emotionel. No flow at all. So I certainly don't hope Morph will be like that. Hopefully it's full of complex material with a flow, a beat, something you like immediately, that touches you, and still lasts for years....

DEACON BLUE, Brussels: What's up with Jamie C??? Allright, he's entertaining, but that's about it. You wont be listening to Catching Tales in 10 years, and you know it! (You'll be playing Morph, waiting for the new Don album...)

Regards and good night, The Nightfly (it beeing 2.20 am in Europe)


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 20:10:04 ET
Posted by: Rumi,

did someone say post or die?

Such a refreshing corner of the internet.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 19:08:10 ET
Posted by: Stevie D, Beantown

BIG CHANGES AT STEELYDAN.COM FOLKS...... ENJOY....


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 18:44:27 ET
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS, the city of the great Toots

radio Dupree is playing H Gang constantly. let's stop them because they are driving me crazy.
jon herrington is outstanding.
But who are the people in the background?


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 18:08:27 ET
Posted by: Santa Makina, Chicago

2 TIX to Chicago Show available. Can't use, doh! Hope someone here can enjoy instead. Main Floor, Section 2R, Row N Seats 202-204. $75 a piece. Please e-mail privately if interested


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 16:52:29 ET
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS, the city of the great Toots

In my CD loader next week:
- EMG
- The Nightfly
- Kamakiriad
- Show Biz Kids 2
- tales from the hudson (M. Brecker)
- Catching Tales (Jamie Cullum)
Probably till the seventh of march....waiting for Morph!


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 16:45:05 ET
Posted by: His Lordship To Be, Worldlywise, I Realize, That Everybodys Crazy...Am I myself Or Just Another Freak?

Girlfreind-True, Beckers site IS,um, a little more 'full' than Fagens (bring it back better, bring it back better...)

Why won;t anyone at Fagen HQ just hire a big horde of phycotic monekys or squirrels to bring Fagens site back-similiar in layout and content, but even BIGGER AND BETTER THAN EVER BEFORE!!!!!!!

If Willy Wonka and NASA can do it, why can't Donald Fagen? (although Willy Wonka doesn't make music with his squirrels, and I don't think N.A.S.A use their monkeys for anything nice either. man I love that movie for small children...)


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 16:21:58 ET
Posted by: StAlphonzo, Seattle

Banyantrees.net forum is down until further notice. No time to troubleshoot...Sorry.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 16:16:11 ET
Posted by: ?,

What's up with Banyantrees.net?


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 15:58:34 ET
Posted by: NYB,

P.S.) North Fork Theater at Westbury has a capacity of 3000 people when the show is in "full round". This show is in "the half-round". So approximately how many seats is that? It can't be 1500 can it? Nah, probably more like 1800 seats, but WOW is that an intimate setting for a Donald Fagen show? This is shaping up to be something exceptionally special.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 15:56:13 ET
Posted by: suedave, lakefront

I have to laugh at myself for being so incredibly obsessed with this tour (and this band) - it's all I've been thinking about on my off hours all week - looks like I'm in good company!

Big Fan - only doing a quick trip to NYC - no side family trips or other nearby facilities. Perhaps we can hook up in May?

Gretchen - I think that purse is a must have - nice find. Looking forward to meeting up with you on both coasts - NYC & Penchanga I think - we'll have to coordinate our accessories

I see a coordinated effort to on the individual websites out nearly at the same time as a good sign. I believe that the freedom to do a variety of projects - like run off to NYC or create your own music - helps to make it more funn when you do get together.

Congrats everyone on getting tickets no matter where they are - these small theaters will be an unusual treat. The bonus is that we get to hang out with those of our kind. I also think that the tickets offered up at presales aren't just the best ones - they hold some good seats back for the regular sale too...keep your timer set and your fingers poised.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 15:52:04 ET
Posted by: NYB,

Good God you guys are right!
Just out of curiousity I went to Ticketmaster and looked for Wiltern tickets. When did these tickets go on sale again? They're damned near sold out! I think I was looking at Level4 Row R or something like that. Probably not bad seats considering it's a small venue but DAMN can these tickets really be selling out this fast???! By the week of the concert people will be offering you thier house and both cars for those "so-so" tickets you bought today... LOL!

This wingding is gonna ROCK! Thanks Don! :)


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 15:20:06 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, Gassin' up the technicolor motorhome for Chi-Town



Earthbound - Glad to hear about your good score, we should be able to see you from our seats. And you still owe me those pics you took from the Front Row in Memphis!!!

ExpandingMan - Look forward to seeing you again, it's been a long time since Milwaukee 2k. I went by Razor Boy waaaaay back then.

Hoops, Geoff, Fiend, HeyMike, LWO and the rest of the usual suspects - can't wait to hook up with the gang again.


Somewhere in H Gang I hear a little horn bit from Florida Room. If this is the radio friendly song I can't wait to hear the radio unfriendly songs.

Kid Clean


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 14:30:38 ET
Posted by: Rajah ,

Well, wished I could've done better but so it goes. Yeah, Steven, those Row R tix are gonna be under the overhang of the balcony no doubt squashing some sound, whatever, it'll be an event nonetheless with you all there.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 14:06:12 ET
Posted by: SteveeDan, Temporarily out of lurking

Hello Fellow Wiltern ticket buyers - - -

Well, I bought a few seats. None of them spectacular. I repeatedly "rolled" for different seat selections and nothing came up that was better than Level 4 Rows R, S, and T.

I ended up in the balcony, Row EE in Loge, which I think will be a better sight line than being under the balcony in Level 4 (or should that be sub-level ChroMagnon SeaMonster 27 ?)

The venue only seats something like 2,300 people and it's right in the center of Los Angeles, not to mention that so many of US around the country and around the world (HELLO TO STILL SPARKIN' - look forward to meeting you !) sat at their computers at 10:00 AM PST SHARP ! trying to get SOMETHING/ANYTHING good.

TicketBASTARD !
Make a note of it.

(Time to start calling in favors from those in the "industry" with juice ...)


Stevee(fully-scalped)Dan


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 14:00:58 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

Crazy news..just found out from my intern friend at Reprise that some of the New York shows will be filmed for a possible DVD release in conjuction with the fagen boxed set.

ALSO, AND THIS IS A BIG RUMOR....."MUNCKMUSIC.COM, WHICH DOES THE DIRECT TO DISC LIVE SHOWS FOR THE DEAD, BRUCE HORNSBY, LITTLE FEAT ETC..HAS SHOWED SOME INTEREST IN FAGEN'S TOUR. THE ONLY REASON THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL HAPPEN IS FAGEN'S NOTORIOUS ISSUES WITH SOUND QUALITY AND PERFORMANCES. BUT APPARENTLY THE RUMOUR IS GOING AROUND TOWN. IMAGINE THAT!!!


WWW.MUNCKMUSIC.COM

REGARDS,

JOHN.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 13:53:10 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

OK, plain and simple my little birdy friend told me that if you like or love "Green Book" from EMG. Then you will love "Morph the cat", the disc not just the title track.

Also, for my own personal issues and maybe HOOPS can answer this one is there any reason that "11 tracks of Whack" is not available on itunes????


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 13:50:25 ET
Posted by: Like I said...Still Sparkin', The Far Side

Now I'm chuckling....as you only chuckle when something really nice happens.

The greater Dandom stepped up and rescued me in my minute of need and tickets to the Wiltern have come my way after all.

thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you

It'll be a wild night after all.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 13:39:25 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, the international desk

Hey Raj...which seats in Level 4 Row R? I just scored Still Sparkin' 2 seats in that section, seats 15-17.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 13:33:56 ET
Posted by: angel,

Hey Rajah! I was shooting for the Mezzanine, but had to put in for everything on the search. My only cast that caught tickets was indeed the Mezzanine Row C just to the right of dead center. Woo Hoo! :-)

Won't be a bad seat in the house, so I am not worried. Gonna be a great show.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 13:31:00 ET
Posted by: Standee, SRO

I never saw anything but singles. Some good, but no GA. I know I saw a mention of it somewhere in the last few days. Wiltern site, I think. Methinks they're still holding a lot back.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 13:29:19 ET
Posted by: Cool poster,

I never saw this Steely Dan poster

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEELY-DAN-RARE-POSTER-FROM-PRIVATE-COLLECTION-13X19_W0QQitemZ7583635962QQcategoryZ104675QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 13:26:49 ET
Posted by: Rajah, L.A.

I was on it bang on tme and could only manage a pair on Floor Level 4, Row R and 2 in the Mezzanine Aisle 11, Row C.

Ticket Bastardo does it again, from hell like usual...


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 13:26:13 ET
Posted by: Standee, SRO

anybody know about the 'pit' GA at the Wiltern in LA? When tix went on sale there was none, and still ain't. Surround sound, hm? Interesting.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 13:19:40 ET
Posted by: Still Sparkin', The wrong place, apparently

Heads up for fans from overseas trying to get tickets.

I just had a pair at the Wiltern Theatre in LA fall through my hands...and I'm not sure exactly why yet.

I never put much on my Hong Kong VISA card, and had a properly registered account with Ticketmaster...yet when I got to the final hurdle it kept telling me there was a problem (unspecificed) with the credit card.

I mentioned the account was properly set up...that's only as far as I know, because prior to trying to purchase these tickets online, I had never used the account before.

I have at least one more show I'm trying to use this account for...so if and when I get this worked out, I'll post again to alert anyone else to whatever it is I find out.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 13:17:19 ET
Posted by: Luke, St. Louis

Girlfriend- "More up-front and forthcoming" about what? Walter's website gives no insightful information. DF has announced tour dates, put a radio single out and has let the world know his release date for Morp the Cat is March 7th. How much more "forthcoming" could Donald be? What are you talking about?


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 13:17:03 ET
Posted by: angel,

Getting too old for this stuff.

Got tickets for the Wiltern show. Got no result 3 out of 4 times I tried and that was trying for any price and any location. I don't think this concert is going to be around for long.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 12:52:10 ET
Posted by: Girlfriend, on location

Actually, I think Walter has been way more up-front and forthcoming than Donald has (not complaining, mind you). I think that is just the way he is. Have you checked his website in the last day or so, HLTB?

I pefer to think all is well between the two...


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 12:44:10 ET
Posted by: His Lordship To Be, Long Time No Type...

Hey folks, long time no see.

Just come back, and from what I'm seeing both here on the Blue and elsewhere, the build up to 'Morph' is stirring everyone up and around.

I'm still not so sure when Beckers albums coming around myself, although I'm guessing, and hoping, some time soon. However, all this Fagen-related noise, and the silence from Beckers end are freaking me out.
Someone fill me in!


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 12:13:59 ET
Posted by: angel,

Hey Ed! You going to try for the Wiltern?

Sittin' in the office watching the clock....


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 12:02:57 ET
Posted by: heymike,

I see what youre saying LWO -not sure it goes that far back in 1R though--still looking also--roger and out


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 11:52:03 ET
Posted by: Expanding Man, Home At Last

Chicaaaaaaguh Theater, Loge 1R, Third Row.

Looking forward to seeing everyone, since I missed the EMG tour (harrumph).

And it's a great venue - I saw Tom Waits there when he was touring after releasing "Mule Variations".

Dale


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 11:45:28 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

I just preordered another copy of morph. I like to have a couple copies.

Check out the rankings for the CD:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E5N62U/qid=1137861780/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-1174810-4313462?n=507846&s=music&v=glance


I have a feeling it might reach number one at amazon.

Especially with a TOUR> behind it and some great reviews already.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 11:42:37 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, ...

Before you get too excited, HeyMike, I think that the there are pit seats, then main floor rows beginning with AA-PP, then the A-M or whatevaH rows begin. I got three sets of 2 tickets all on the main floor center sections, but in the single alphabet seats. Gonna keep checking to see if anything better gets released though...




Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 11:39:43 ET
Posted by: EARTHBOUND, Spiraling

In like Flint in Chicago!

Dial-up still works...amazing!
First snatch revealed Main Floor, hard right. Yikes.
Round II...Balcony, Dead center, 4th Row!!!
And one of these seats may be available...Geoff?
Hat2Flat? Bueller?
Ain't heard the H yet...no groovin' stations in
dis town. Any help?

Psyched about the PRE/POST-PARTAYS! Who's gonna
be there?
Keith


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 11:25:42 ET
Posted by: HeyMike, West of Chicago Theatre

Just got 2 tickets for Chicago main Floor 1R row A seats 102 and 104...looks like stage right--front row!


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 11:25:18 ET
Posted by: Stevie D, Beantown

Raj and other Bostonians with VIP seats, (or any seats for that Matter) Any plans to hook up for the pre-pre show at a local watering hole?? Maybe we can organize something..


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 11:21:08 ET
Posted by: edbeatty, @my desk

Joe,
I thought it meant South of Hershey?


ed


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 10:40:27 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

i'm in the center balcony, row P (which is the first row of the balcony). i got the best cheap seat in the house. i was on the lawn at Tweeter in 2000 and had a blast, so i figure wherever i sit in such a comparatively small place will be just as much fun.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 10:37:55 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, ebay

Hey ladies, check this out..........

http://search.stores.ebay.com/steely-dan-purse_W0QQfromZR8QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQfstypeZ1QQsbrexpZWD1SQQsifZ1QQsofpZ4QQssPageNameZWD1S

OK, New York, Chicago, LA, and Pechanga. That's our schedule. Who's on for the CA shows?


G


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 10:32:48 ET
Posted by: Chan, Boston

Chris, where were the tix you were able to get thru ticketmaster? I got mine thru allaccess to make sure I got in. Did not want to risk the online purchase or getting a number at Filenes or Box office and getting shut out.


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 10:09:30 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

just got my boston tix. original ticket price: 42.50. with fees, each ticket came to 56.80. i've stayed away from ticketbastard for so long i forgot about their 10 dollar "convienence charge." no worries, though: i'm seeing donald fagen in a theatre!


Date: Sat, January 21, 2006, 09:41:44 ET
Posted by: Still Sparkin', Standing by

H-Gang....

About eight or nine listens now.

The WASAM horn sound is there, as others have said.

The chord changes under the sax solo are really unpredictable, almost jarring....a bit like West of Hollywood.

Funny, after a few plays parts of H Gang started to remind of Dionne Warwick's Love Power, written by Burt Bacarach...especially near the beginning.

So great to hear that guitar. I hope there's a lot of good guitar playing and guitar sounds on the album.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 23:33:40 ET
Posted by: What I think SoH means...,

South of Herington, formerly South of Hollywood


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 22:33:19 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, Satiated on sushi and sake

SOH..

Why yes, I did finally get to hear the new one. Excuse me, The New One.

It was so fan-f'in-tastic...and familiar. New but not.

Sigh.

Maybe it's the sake talking, but wow.....

Nah, I liked it before dinner!

Thanks!

LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 22:26:33 ET
Posted by: Q, TPA

Tagging on to NYBs earlier post - the other cool thing about seeing the early shows withDF or The Dan is you often see material that is droped later - sometimes even pretty immediately. If you are able it is often fruitful to see the first few shows and then some towards the end of the tour.

One source is telling me that we may be in for a treat regarding the PA system - I am hearing that they are not going to be using the house PAs, but something "special". I do NOT have that confirmed as of yet, but am praying!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 22:14:25 ET
Posted by: fife, baltimore, eh

Anybody else having problems getting into the green? and just when I had some great news!! I'm NYC bound March 7th, whoohoo!!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 21:28:58 ET
Posted by: Chan, Boston

What radio stations in the Boston area are playing H-Gang?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 21:15:44 ET
Posted by: Paul Brians' secret admirer, Syntax, TX

From the Ticketmaster site:

"Internet presales provide the advantage of exclusive purchasing windows in advance of the public sale, which often results in less people competing for the pool of available seats.."

Should be FEWER people, not LESS people. Yet another reason to despise Tickemaster.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 20:58:41 ET
Posted by: Bodacious Cowboy, Out on the plains

Rick Moranis Channels His Inner 'Cowboy'
January 20, 2006
By Jonathan Cohen

http://www.backstage.com/bso/news_reviews/other_news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001882679

From the Q&A w/Rick Moranis...

"I noticed a donald fagen thank-you on the cd. Did you ever ponder collaborating with him?

"Initially, I was working on a screenplay a long, long time ago that never got produced. I wanted him to do the music for it, and that's how we started talking. We just stayed in touch. Whenever Steely Dan would perform I'd go see them. As I was writing this stuff, I knew he'd get a kick out of it. He really encouraged me a lot to do something with this."


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 20:47:19 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

Just thought I'd better add that in some rare cases maybe there isn't a website per se for a particular venue. For instance there doesn't seem to be a real obvious one for the Tower Theatre in Upper Darby which I've just been mentioning. However, you can usually Google something up and the seating chart for the Tower Theatre can be found at...

http://www.philadex.com/philadelphia/concerts/tower_theater.asp

...where you can click on any of the "Seating Chart" links to view this...

http://www.ticketsnow.com/maps/1726-1-1-main.gif


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 20:45:31 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, More East now...

Danfiend!

So nice to see you grace these pages again!
Can't wait to see you in Chicago and God knows where else...
You KNOW how these things start to snowball once they get rolling!

SoH


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 20:31:04 ET
Posted by: Q, TPA

LadyB & BigFan - Hope to see both of you!

BigFan - I am sooo looking forward to the forst 5-7 shows - those are all of my old stomping grounds - saw Zappa and Garcia, etc. at the state in high school and college, many shows at Beacon, etc.
I love the old NorthEast theaters

My advice is to print out the maps from the thaters directly -NOT ticketbastard


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 20:18:15 ET
Posted by: Rajah, Browns fan

You rock, my Daddy G, and OK I give up, go Steelers.

My Mu Mu - yes, the key change at 2:20 or thereabouts essentially ramping the pitch up to the instant classic Jimi Hendrix-flavored electric blue solo at 2:30, as crisp and on the attack as that immortal Phil Woods' sax in the middle of Dr. Wu. Weiskopf is no slouch here around 2:00, recalling again Phil Woods in an even more pointed manner. Recall that the Pixeleen solo was also great by Weiskopf, it's a similarly constructed and excellent example of how special he is here on H-Gang.

Donald's horn charts are sturdy and predictably funn as ever, giving nods always to the Bebop Days always on DF's horn arrangements, it's not even his instrument, on H-Gang I hear Nelson Riddle.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 20:14:49 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

Sorry for the accidental doublespeak on "front"---I was doing some backing up in one of my open browser windows and it resulted in inadvertently re-posting my last stupid comment. D'oh!

Anyway, just thought I'd also post this Feb 3, 2005, Tim Newby article at Glide Magazine about the Tower Theatre in Upper Darby (call it Philly) in case anyone's considering the venue and would like to know a little of its history...

http://www.glidemagazine.com/7/columns101.html


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 20:08:29 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

Uh, ..."front."


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 19:53:54 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

Uh, ..."front."


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 19:52:59 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

...or have the seating chart open in a separate window on-screen while trying for tickets so you can switch to it to check the seats offered and then go back to the TicketMaster window to accept or reject.

Personally, I'm a little old fashioned and like to have a printout in fornt of me.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 19:49:35 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

This may seem like a really stupid comment and I don't mean to insult anyone's intelligence or single anyone out, but I seem to recall (I could be wrong) one or two folks having ordered tickets and then asking here "Are these good seats I got?"

Well, I only just thought to do this myself in preparation for efforts to get tix to the two shows I have interest in (I'll only do one though) and that's...
______________________________________________________________________

In advance of the sale (or presale) go to the venue's website and try to find the seating chart. Once found, either save it to your hard drive (right-click, save picture as) for easy access (or printing) later---or print it out directly from the web page, your preference.

This way when TicketMaster offers seats X, Y, & Z, in Section D, Row F, you'll be able to quickly look at the seating chart and decide whether to accept the offer or reject it and try again.
______________________________________________________________________

As others pointed out earlier, though, I wouldn't reject too much/often or you may get locked out.

Just thought I'd mention that as a helpful strategic hint for anyone who may not have thought of it already or anyone who just doesn't order tickets online a lot.

And good luck to everyone still waiting for their particular show of interest to be offered.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 19:47:46 ET
Posted by: Chan, Boston

Saw a post that mentioned a date for HGang on I tunes. Is that confimed? When is it? Any way to get it earlier? Got my 4 star package last night, now I have a huge issue, who to take? I have been to every Boston area Dan show including Manchester since the first Tweeter (then Great Woods) show in 93. Aja T-shirt from that one in tough shape now. I have been with the guys, the wife, couples, friends wives and couples, have hosted parties at hotels before shows, done the limo thing etc. This could be the perfect show to pass the torch the 16 year old son. He loves the Dan and perhaps it is his time! I would have to be on best behavior but it may be the way to go. No scotch whiskey all night long, no smokin with the boys upstairs, no rolling out the bones and raising the pitchers, no test tubes and scales, no fine columbian, no cuervo gold. I may have to rethink this.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 19:42:11 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Rajah: Good analysis. I have to run home and cook pasta, but the delay at the 0.22 sec mark is more Fagen moving the Rhodes from the "2" beat to the "3" beat... along with a little slowing of the drumming and snare...very jazzy, very vaudeville...shifting from emphasizing backbeat and offbeat "3"


similar "mu-like" chords before the first verse...a way of breaking up the song and introducing introducing...same chords I think underneath just before the beginning of the guitar solo


Key change at 2:11 (middle of sax solo in non-XM radio edit)??


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 19:31:47 ET
Posted by: NYB,

Thanks Hoops and SOH,

I was pretty sure it worked that way. So to all you fans who weren't able to order during this Pre-sale, don't feel bad. You may actually wind up with better seats than some of us Pre-sale purchasers recieved. And for the rest of us, it might be a good idea to give it another shot on Monday to see if you can pick up even better seats than you have right now. You can always sell your original tickets to another fan at a later date.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 19:28:22 ET
Posted by: The Whackball Jet, Alimentary Canal Street

Fer sher Weiskopf be in the band. Pullin licks from he T42 date.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 19:17:27 ET
Posted by: Rajah, L.A.

H-Gang does a little somethin funny at about 4:00, it's like Carlock and Washington slow up just a tad after the last chorus, they kind of pull back a little and wind up, then they come cascading back into 4/4, a retard is what you might call it and it causes a kind of slingshot effect for the guitarist's final blow. This song screams out, "I was produced by a experienced recorder of music, a major dude."

Other random observations:

- 3 other much more subtle retards at :22, 1:00, 1:58 always at the end of the chorus,

- mu chords between both the quatraines of the verses which also serve to dampen and give the aural effect of slowing things down,

- this song is in A minor

- Donald's voice gets slurred on the words, "Denise got hitched and she living in the mid-west," on the words, "hitched," and "mid-west." It makes it funny, it's that "uh-oh," kicker in a lot of steely Dan songs which we've discussed upon many an occasion.

- behind the last word of "and a voice and a dream and a soul on fire," (beautiful imagery, heroic) he hits his usual, "fiyah," and then the guitar trills in a complimentary fashion immediately after.


Masterful down to the smallest touches, how can you not admire a person who takes this much pride in his work?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 19:06:45 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Even a clock...

NYB...You are correct...This is straight from the Ticketmaster Web Site:

"Internet presales are usually sold from a reserved allotment of seats, which may not reflect the same availability during the public ticket sale. Internet presales provide the advantage of exclusive purchasing windows in advance of the public sale, which often results in less people competing for the pool of available seats. However, Internet presales may also have limited seating available in various areas - these presales are intended as advance purchasing windows and do not necessarily provide access to better seating. In fact, it is possible that you may be able to obtain tickets for better seats at the general public sale than those that you purchase through a presale. We must remind you that Ticketmaster does not offer refunds or exchanges, so you will not be able to replace the tickets you obtain at a presale with other tickets that become available at a later date."

SoH

PS: Have you heard H-Gang yet, LadyB?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 19:05:46 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Just a reminder from earlier that yes, indeedy, tickets one hour into today's presale may not be as good as the tickets you can get one minute in tomorrow or Monday's regular sale.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 18:52:45 ET
Posted by: NYB,

You're not mad at me LadyB? You know what this means? Do you KNOW what this means??? It means I'm gonna hafta come up with a whole bunch more things to get you mad at me! Have any idea how much work that's gonna be? ALOT! LOL! :)



Tell me if I'm wrong about this...
The tickets that went on Pre-sale today are only a certain block of tickets, right? In other words, the sponsor is permitted a certain block of tickets to offer up for Pre-sale, but these AREN'T all the good seats, correct? What I mean to say is that when these tickets go onsale to the general public on Monday at 12:30pm there will still be some excellent seats left, maybe even some front row seats, no? I could be wrong about this but I'm pretty sure that it works this way. Does anybody know if I'm right or not?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 18:36:26 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, ...

I will publically post that I am not mad at NYB. Was trying to perhaps help out a friend looking for tickets, but not a big deal. I just didn't want to leave them hanging.

I seriously doubt that Donald would hang around to take pictures, but wow, oh wow, would that be AMAZING.

LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 18:28:05 ET
Posted by: little birdie, birdie bye bye


just got the opportunity to listen to the opening show from 2003 in Costa Mesa. almost had gold margarita coming out of my nose hearing all the lyrical errors don made. it'll still be one fine time but the first night'll be full of bugs.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 18:17:24 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Westbury attendies: I heard that at this venue its a tradition for the performer to hang out in the lobby after the show and take pics with fans...wow, what are the chances of That happening?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 17:39:19 ET
Posted by: NYB,

LadyB, check your email. And after you check your email, don't kill me okay?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 17:37:06 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Just caught the last 1:30 or H-Gang on XM - it's way polished, yet immediate on higher Q stream. The outtro is very tasty.

"Donald's craftsmanship remains awesome, his ability to construct and fashion song structure still astounds, what a gift, all these years, he's still got it."

Indeed, The production is well oiled and flawless. Donald has given it an open sound that does harken back to Nightfly/Aja days. Even more alive if possible. I don't think I've ever heard better instrument separation. Smooth but as hot as it is cool. Sexy - yeah. It may turn out an album about death is the most alive thing Donald's done. I felt sorry for Rosanne Cash's Black Cadillac - she's an excellent and creative artist - which followed H-Gang...sounded like crap in comparison...

Now Sheryl Crow's on - sounds like it was recorded in a tin hut ...


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 17:31:53 ET
Posted by: Steely Jan,

Thanks LadyB. I have my tickets.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 17:28:00 ET
Posted by: NYB,

Sorry LadyB, just got back a little while ago. I'll check my e's now...


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 17:26:30 ET
Posted by: NYB,

P.S.) The coolest thing about attending the first couple of show is that you'll be hearing some of the songs from "Morph The Cat" before the cd is even released! Then we can let the other Dan fans know what to expect. How cool is it that DF would work things out this way? Makes you want to attend those first couple of concerts EVEN MORE doesn't it?

:)


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 17:25:34 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, over here

NYB...

Did you get the email I sent you? Perhaps you are ignoring me?

Read, then write, please.

Please?

(tapping foot)

LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 17:18:21 ET
Posted by: NYB,

Might be kinda late to tell you this but here goes...
To use Ticketmaster online you've got to enable cookies. Without enabling them you won't be able to sign in. Go to "Tool"s, click "Internet Options", then click "Privacy", then move the slide bar down to "Medium High" and click "Okay".

ILoveAllAccess.com requires that cookies be enable too. Even if you have the right password you won't be able to log in unless you do this first.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 17:12:03 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, countdown to March 7

Good Lord!

Rolling Stone ...."a masterpiece"
John's Intern....."it will blow your mind"
Fagen............."I don't think I could have done better"

I think I might crawl inside a bunker and live in a plastic bubble so I don't die before March 7!

Mark in Boston


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 17:08:16 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

I had H-Gang playing on my PC here at the office and a guy down the hall passed by and said, "Sounds so much like Steely Dan, what is that?"

The guitar is like a downed power line snaking around on a wet street. It's liquid electric blue. The entrances of the sax and the guitar commencing their solos proper are so dramatic, the spotlight flies open on them, your head comes clean off at the 2:30 mark, so classic rock. Donald's craftsmanship remains awesome, his ability to construct and fashion song structure still astounds, what a gift, all these years, he's still got it.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 17:06:43 ET
Posted by: ph, she was just 17, I think

Hey everybody,
This day in 1964, the Beatles released their first album in the US: Meet The Beatles.

Yay!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 17:01:16 ET
Posted by: DJ, Shy-town

Meanwhile....enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search=steely+dan&search_type=search_videos


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 16:56:33 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, east coast

This I can at least address with some actual knowledge. Temecula VIP tickets are on sale NOW. Yes, now. You can get them through Donald's website which is a click through to Iloveallaccess.com, or go there directly. 5 star is $275, I think 4 star is $175. Geez, those are cheap compared to Beacon in NYC. Definitely what the market can bear.

Good luck: the password is MORPH

LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 16:51:46 ET
Posted by: Steely Jan,

I am on Keith Carlock's email list so I know he is touring with Donald. Do we know any other members of the touring band? I am waiting for Temecula VIP to go on sale. When you click on the VIP icon it just says coming soon or something. Does any one know if the VIP tickets go on sale before regular ones?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 16:39:13 ET
Posted by: lovethisgig, atlanta

So do we know for sure whether or not there will be additional shows after March?

lovethisgig


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 16:37:17 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, here, there

From what I see, ELS Surround is a system designed by Mr. Scheiner, so that at least is...better than a poke in the eye.

I guess.

I am so out of my league on this thread that I am going to stop right here.

LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 16:09:59 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Tejas

John, TJ: Wow. Can't wait for the Morph CD/DVD-A in all its splenor and the iTunes debut on teh 24th. H-Gang is just a ditty, but pan-fryed just right. Fagen and co. really got the most out of it - the extra minute of instrumental groove has me tingling. Listening to XM radio jazz channel and scoping out KBCO and XM Cafe tracks real time...too bad work is interfering with my monitoring!...I'm sure I've missed H-Gang twice today


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 15:49:01 ET
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS, the city of the great Toots

One great recommendation! Radio Dupree. They pla Steely Dan All the time and yes for the first time i heard HGang!
It was very weird,very smooth, very Fagen. But honestly i have to say that i will need a little time to get used of it!
The song did not really surprise me.But it stays one hundred stages ahead all the shit they play on radio.
But if it's true that the HGang is the weakest song of the new album?
Well my dear Danfriends, then 2006 will be a great year for us, because in that case i think Morph the Cat will be the best album of tis year and who knows the best of this decade.
Here comes the hgang and between 42 days Morph the cat!
Life is different with Donald, isn't it?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 15:37:29 ET
Posted by: Soundcheck check,

Elliot Scheiner will not be mixing the live show. The tour is being sponsored by "ELS Surround", a company, not Elliot Scheiner.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 15:25:14 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, here

*Sob*

and I keep chasing stations hoping to hear it once.


Sigh.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 15:15:55 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky

My Ipod lists that I've already played H Gang 103 times.
5:02 of pure bliss.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 15:13:40 ET
Posted by: Rajah, looking forward to the Funn

After my struggles with Ticketmaster I could use a pitcher of Martinis except for that quack of a Doctor of mine took it away. Yeah, Peter, but this time we need to back it all up with a 5-Star VIP bong hit. Does your 6-Star pass include a bag of Morph the Catnip, by any chance? FP, you won't wanna miss this, lol, as imperious as PQ seems on here, he's actually very good company and a nice person. There's really not one bad apple in the bunch here, OK, maybe one or two but Jim keeps the natives in check, me included.

Prepare then, Pidgeons, to write another chapter in the tattered casebook of the Steely Dan People, strange beings from another dimension fer shur.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 15:03:14 ET
Posted by: TJ,

It's on WB.com New? Hmm, might (It's under "for the journey..." at the top) iTunes - Interesting


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:58:19 ET
Posted by: Bob,

Is the list of supplies what's new at WB.com or ...something else?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:58:16 ET
Posted by: Bob,

Is the list of supplies what's new at WB.com or ...something else?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:58:11 ET
Posted by: Bob,

Is the list of supplies what's new at WB.com or ...something else?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:52:16 ET
Posted by: TJ, DK

John, nyc, GREAT NEWS. Thanks, nice with some relevant posts on the board. H Gang sounds like the Cousin D of Morph - but better.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:50:14 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, right there

I realize that I will sound like a geek (what's new), but I finally am able to listen Radio Free Dandom, and I am really enjoying it. Ahh, total Dan immersion. If only the new one were on.....

Hearing Hoops do a station ID was also very cool.

I am SUCH a geek.

LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:49:20 ET
Posted by: Things We Need The Most,


Seems like we will be needing to get our new WB music via iTunes...

you will need ...

From wb.com

• a clean, well-lit table top or work surface, approximately 36" x 48"

• a printer for your online computer

• sharp scissors or Xacto knife

• a deck of playing cards

• some "quality time" with yourself and possibly your life-partner — if you are fortunate enough to have one and if he/she is, like yourself, interested and committed to this work

• iTunes (any version) and iTunes Store account or its equivalent

• occasional access to library or other source of reference materials

• a taste for things "philosophical" and a sensitive and accurate "bullshit-detector" capability

• a nice collection of take-out menus from local restaurants that deliver

• some Elmer's glue

• discretionary spending fund (exclusive of costs for the above ) of no less than US$1.00



close this window X




Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:49:01 ET
Posted by: PQ you are just so dang special, I really think the good folks here on the blue

should all chip in and buy you a gold watch or at least spray paint a gold brick for you with the words GIANT EGO ethed into it.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:43:37 ET
Posted by: John, nyc

My intern friend at Reprise just heard the opening track from morph..."Morph the cat", he said it was astounding. Vintage steely dan a la AJA. Very smooth. He said it will blow your mind. It sort of creeps up on you and then bam it hits you like a sledgehammer. Everyone in his office is talking about it. I am desperately trying to get copy of it. Regards, John

Also, H gang is getting a warm reception but his goto guy said that is the weakest song on the disc and also ironically the most radio friendly.

Just like fagen/steely music either you get it or you don't.

H-Gang will be on i tunes Jan. 24th.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:43:00 ET
Posted by: dunc,

heads up changes @ wb.com !!!!

what a day


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:38:37 ET
Posted by: Professor of Real Estate, Brooklyn College

Park Slope prices send home buyers fleeing to Manhattan for relief:

www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/realestate/columns/realestate/15497/


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:37:23 ET
Posted by: Danfiend, Chi-Towne

Yo South

Where you been?! Drop me a line, babe. Can't wait to see you in Chi.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:29:46 ET
Posted by: PQ, NYC

Hey Raj we may do the Beacon with a pitcher of those things we were downing at the LA show! (LOL).


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:20:58 ET
Posted by: FP, Manhattan

Peter Q- Everybody know you're a liar and a creep. I can afford the ticket. I can also afford to live in Manhattan.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:14:04 ET
Posted by: Steve D, Beantown

I had an easy time on Iloveallasskiss yesterday getting VIP tix for Boston show. Are many of the veneus sold out at this point for VIP seats?

Anyone from Boston thinking about hooking up for a pre-pre show party at a local bar let me know, maybe we can all hook up.

Steve


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 14:03:56 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Ticketmaster is from hell. Took me forever but with your help on the passwords, I managed to nail NY and CHI, thank you Blue. Anybody know if there's a pre-sale going on for the LA show that I can bust into, doesn't seem to be but...








Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 13:46:26 ET
Posted by: DWB, Yellow

St. Al's got the Ticket Exchange up in Yellow:

http://www.banyantrees.net/forum/


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 13:44:42 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, there

And I STILL haven't heard the single. However, I am extremely excited, knowing that I have two shows to look forward to. I did really want to go to the Chicago Theater show, but I can't manage the flight and tickets right now, especially since I VIP'ed Beacon.

Nonetheless......I am looking forward to seeing some familiar faces and putting faces with names at the shows.

LadyBayside


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 13:43:03 ET
Posted by: scoots, Minneapolis

Jenny:

Regarding VIP at all shows. I went to the I Love Access Site

- http://www.iloveallaccess.com/

- clicked on donald's link

- used the usual "morph" password

and saw indications that all venues would have the VIP treatment option, although details on most were yet to come. I am assuming (and we know what happens when one assumes from time-to-time) that if information on the VIP event at a given city is "coming soon" that it really will happen at some point.

Still locked out of Ticketwasted, and hoping I will get unlocked by the time the Minneapolis tickets go on sale

Scoots


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 13:40:30 ET
Posted by: PQ, NYC

LOL! Yeah man, I'm such a loser that I have a pass for free that you're paying 450$ for, LOL!!!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 13:28:45 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Thanks for the press release link, Bob, but seems to be a DF.com tour, ELS and Panasonic PR. Something I hadn't seen before THANKS SO MUCH!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 13:25:12 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, Head in the Clouds


Decided to take the pre-sale plunge for Chicago. Loge 3R row CC. Third row from the front of the balcony just to the right of center. I'm thinking these are really primo real estate, actually just hoping. See ya in Chi-town!!!!

KC


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 13:23:41 ET
Posted by: Jenny, Fredneck, MD

Scoots: I don't see VIP offerings for all the shows at Iloveallaccess. Where do I go to see this? I want Warner..


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 13:10:24 ET
Posted by: FP, ny

Peter Q-When I get some culture and sophistication come back and visit.???
Dude, I'm not the one pounding the pavement of Brooklyn handing out flyers to %$#$%%'s girlfriends next gig. But I guess being the president of the &&**%$ street team is a very cultural experience. Sophistication at it's very best. What a loser.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 13:07:05 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Thanks for the heads up Oz!

If you are locked out, you could try flushing your web cache, remove any TM cookies or renew your DHCP lease, if your IP is configured that way. Or at least go to another computer if you can. Just some ideas to get you running. What a buzz I got going about all this!

jim


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 13:05:48 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, at work - it's 52F out

From the Chicage Trib two days ago - Hoops you must have seen it:
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_popmachine/2006/01/test_your_geeky.html#more

Test your geeky Fagen IQ
OK, this is the kind of game that might appeal only to me and a few of my equally geeky friends, but, hey, it’s a blog. You can always scroll down.

Donald Fagen, a.k.a. half of Steely Dan, will soon release his first solo album in 13 years (and he’ll play the Chicago Theater on March 18 on his first-ever solo tour), and the announced song titles are typically Fagenesque.

Translation: Your lips curl up slightly as you think, Huh?

So here’s the game: I’ll print 16 song titles, and you have to guess which eight are Fagen’s and which eight I just made up. Answers will be on the jump.

Here goes:

1. "Morph the Cat"

2. "H Gang"

3. "What I Do"

4. "Brite Nitegown"

5. "The Great Pagoda of Funn"

6. "Security Joan"

7. "The Night Belongs To Mona"

8. "Mary Shut the Garden Door"

9. "Lunchmeat in the Sand"

10. "Who Killed the Captain"

11. "Punch and Lucifer"

12. "Smellin’ Like Helen"

13. "Absolute Gone"

14. "Johnny Twista"

15. "On the Shortwave"

16. "Twilight of the DeLorean"

And the answers are...


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 13:03:12 ET
Posted by: The Great OZ, ticketcrapper lockouts

Apparently after 3 orders, you're locked out of Ticketbastard for a 24 hour cooling off period...

Livenation, here we come!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 12:57:50 ET
Posted by: PQ, NYC

LOL, fp you're another person whose musical 'knowledge' doesn't extend beyond classic rock radio I see. By the way, look on the cover of the Weekend page of the NY Times today, there's a gigantic article about Paul Motian, duh. When you get some culture and sophistication come back and visit.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 12:54:08 ET
Posted by: hoops aka jim,

BTW: I haven't been to all the venues but sounds like the Beacon and Chicago Theatres are sorta Roseland like in terms of fan get togethers but these places have seating. Still, the Chicago is a gorgeous Beaux Arts theatre from the '20s and considered one of the best types of it's architecture in the world. (That's the American Insitute of Architect's opinion.) So it will have a great vibe.

jim


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 12:50:05 ET
Posted by: hoops aka jim,

Wow...what a busy place! I couldn't even take out the spam without getting interrupted. :-)

Just before 7 am this morning, Chicago Public Radio, the local NPR station, had an announcement from the DJ as a commercial that "Donald Fagen Band '06" was going to be at the Chicago Theatre on March 18 and tickets were going on sale this Saturday at 10 am through http://www.livenation.com I'm not familiar with http://www.livenation.com -- can someone fill me in? They seem to connect to Ticketmaster but don't offer the pre-sale.

ALSO: The "Chicago Reader" (for you non-Chicagoans, it's comparable to "The Village Voice") has a quarter page ad for DF show, including the album cover, on page 30 of section 3 (the Music section). Chris Potter's gig in a couple of weeks at JazzShowcase is also listed in the same section. Haven't checked the Trib and Sun-Times yet. The ad also lists livenation.com and not Ticketmaster.

When Donald says "Apocalypse wow!" I think of all you folks here! Special shout out to Lady Bayside, SueDave, Matt and the rest!

jim


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 12:37:31 ET
Posted by: FP, ny

Peter Q- I got tickets for the first show in Jersey through the VIP package. They went on sale yesterday.

Thanks for the info on Potter although I disagree. What serious musician (jazz or rock) would turn down a gig with Steely Dan? The only people that have ever heard of Paul Motian are jazz fans that read Downbeat. The rest of the world has no idea who he is yet everybody loves the Dan. I think Potter is nuts! Bad choice.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 12:28:54 ET
Posted by: scoots,

I am currently blocked out of Ticketcrapper as well. Not only for the Chicago show, but the NY venues as well. I perhaps went to the well too many times also.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 12:10:42 ET
Posted by: Bob,

Another sighting of the Reprise Official Press Release

http://www.marketwire.com/mw/iwprf?id=106822


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 12:07:55 ET
Posted by: PQ, NYC

fp yes someone did, although we discussed it in great length on the Yellow. It's posted yesterday at 16:10:45 EST here. Long and short of it was Paul Motian also asked Potter to tour at that same time. No serious jazz player is going to pass that chance up. Potter said in the article,"It was the right move."

How did you get the State Theater tickets boo?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 12:04:06 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky

People are selling passwords on ebay. Unferkin' real. $2.14 (buy now)


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 12:01:35 ET
Posted by: DJ, Shy-town

SOH, that does happen on TicketBastard they do it to prevent scalpers from preying too heavily, but sometimes works against the good guys. I am not sure how long you are blocked out.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:59:45 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky

SouthOfHollywood, how many tix do you need for Chicago. I'll order them and we can exchange tix and money later. Anything for a fellow Dan head.

Reach me @ SoulMonkey168@insightbb.com


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:56:37 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, no worries

Someone will have extra seats, bebe. Thinking of picking up a few extras, but 3L Row H is the best I can find.

Anyone interested?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:51:09 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, NOT a scalper...

I seriously think that Ticketmaster blocked my ip address from accessing their site! I continued to dip back into the ticket pool soooooo many times for the Beacon show to see what might pop up (after I had secured my seats, natch...) that I really think they blocked me...I'm currently SOL for CHI, as I'm working and can't get to another computer...

Anybody ever hear of this happening or have any trouble similar to this?

SOL SoH


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:50:33 ET
Posted by: db ,

check the ebay prices already !!!

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=donald+fagen+tickets&category0=


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:47:29 ET
Posted by: Dunc,

the format is
aa-dd then a-z
So im in row 8

just close enough to the stage but far enough away from the chattering yuppies in front.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:45:37 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky

1st row balcony just right of center on Donald's side hopefully. They look like great seats. Chicago here we come!!!!!!!!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:32:34 ET
Posted by: Beacon Seating, NYC

Duncan- Row D Orch at the Beacon isn't the 4th row. The Beacon works double letters for the first section on the floor. So the 4th row at the Beacon would be Row DD. Row D will be 4 rows after Row ZZ. I'm pretty sure that's how the Beacon works. Good seats either way.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:27:17 ET
Posted by: FP, ny

PQ-- What you mean not for sale yet? I got tickets for that first show in Jersey as well. By the way, you never told us why Potter turned down the SD gig.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:25:15 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, whew

That was freakin' intense! I got 4 in 4L but not together and 2 in 3L...

Depending on who rsvps, might have 2 to barter.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:21:54 ET
Posted by: bojiro, CR

Thanks scoots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:06:41 ET
Posted by: JoeM,

"MORPH" All caps worked for me... Try that one.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:04:39 ET
Posted by: scoots,

Passcode is "nightfly"


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:03:14 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga

no morph...what else?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:02:31 ET
Posted by: ygk, nyc

prolly the Beacon, but not the VIP.....


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 11:01:09 ET
Posted by: scoots, help

"morph" is not working - any suggestions?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 10:53:22 ET
Posted by: PQ, NYC

OK! Got the tix for the walkoff show @ State Theater even though they're not on sale anywhere yet. And Westbury. Malc! Steve! Doing the Beacon?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 10:38:30 ET
Posted by: Harry, Rochester

this station plays h gang all the time click the link you will see that they just played it.http://www.kbcoradio.com/main.html


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 10:37:26 ET
Posted by: scoots, @ Ticketcrapper

Thus far the passcode has been "morph" (at least at both NY venues), and it should be the same for Chicago. If not morph, I have no clue


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 10:34:55 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, ???

Anyone else having trouble accessing Ticketmaster online?

SoH


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 10:28:57 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, at work

I didn't tell the wife about buying tickets - but I figured I'd better break the new before the Visa bill comes in.

In order to smooth the way I thought I'd show her a picture of the Opera House in Boston so that she'd get a feel. She plays violin in several orchestras and plays very similar venues to this in the area. I think she'll be pleased.

Here's a great picture of the stage in Boston - first 7 rows should be great.

http://www.playbill.com/images/photos/boston1.jpg



Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 10:20:23 ET
Posted by: TJ, DK

IDTC: Actually Jack of Speed has got the contrast (You maybe got lucky for a few good years... etc.) but the part is not a very strong contrast and the song fails to climax because of lack of development.

H Gang has got a good development going on, but lacks this contrasting part, which usually occurs after the second chorus.

I've always loved those C-parts in SD's music, because this is where their love for harmony really comes out.

Pretzel Logic and EMG are just great albums. (Any Major Dude: I can tell you all I know....) and Godwhacker (Be very very quiet... ...AT THE START OF THE END OF HISTORY) among the best.



Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 10:17:36 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, TN

So...what was the pre-sell password for the Chicago show again?

Matt


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 10:01:53 ET
Posted by: IDTC, Pittsburgh, where DF will NOT be gigging, alas

TJ: Haven't heard "H-Gang" yet, but what you said about the lack of a contrasting section is what I've always thought about "Jack of Speed." "JoS" is a great song, in fact one of my very favorite SD tunes, but that missing climactic section, I feel, is what prevents it from being a STUPENDOUS song rather than "merely" a GREAT song.

But then, I've always noticed that Don and Walt in their composing opt for ECONOMY of means rather than FLORIDITY 9 times out of 10.

The title track to AJA, for example, being one of the notable exceptions to prove the rule.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:58:41 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, ...

Just thought of something....

what section?

not to rain on your proverbial parade, but just double check to see if you are behind the stage, or in the non-rotating part.

Either way, you have lots of options.

LadyB, really leaving now.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:57:18 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, ..

So you are deserting me in our row (yes, we were in the same row) and moving on up?

Oh, Weezie.

(Actually, I am quite happy for you!)

Wave to the little folk, would'ja?

LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:53:40 ET
Posted by: NYB,

LadyB, you're not gonna believe this...
My sister was interested in going to the show, she just called me, SHE GOT ROW A! She know's I'm a Steely Dan nut and my birthday is just days after the Westbury date SO SHE'S LETTING ME HAVE HER TICKETS AS A BIRTHDAY PRESENT! I guess there's no point in buying the 4-STAR tickets now huh?

I really feel good about this y'know, because now I'll be able to annoy DF from a much closer vantage point! Probably would have able to do it from Section E, Row G but y'know what, it's always better to be up close when you're tying to annoy someone. Least that's been my experience.

:)


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:52:52 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, off to the gym

Okay, good luck everyone. Enough futzing around. I have got to go to the gym and get all this adrenaline out of my system.

I am so pissed at Ticketmaster still.

But now the big decision is...pre-party? Mind you, I am limited to places where a very mature almost seven year old is allowed, but you never know.

Parking lot at Westbury is NOT very conducive to tailgating, since they have a weird parking attendant system.

That's my only beef with that venue....getting out of the lot at the end of the night. I once saw two cars just drive right into each other after a show because all the traffic funnels into one or two exit lanes up the hill, and neither one would yield to the other.

Actually, it was kind of funny.

LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:48:44 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, at work - when does the weekend start

Q, glad you are leaving the warm confines of the Gulf Coast to come north for our wonderful late winter weather. What shows are you going to? I figured you'd be going with the high rollers to the casinos in AC and Vegas. These smaller venues should be cool. I'm just glad I can get to one show. The show in PA is a possibilty also. At least that is on a weekend and my parents live close.

Late summer SD tour sounds good to me. Who knows though.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:40:22 ET
Posted by: Jack, Long Island

Here's the seating plan so you can check your seats:

http://www.musicfair.com/seating.html

Man, that ticketmaster booking was a stressful experience. But I'm so excited I'm going to get to see Donald Fagen live!

"katydid" came up as my word verification challenge which was a nice touch. Did anyone else get SD references?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:38:51 ET
Posted by: LadyB, ...

But that's not "cutting' the stage. That's limiting seating, right? I mean, they don't extend the stage out through those seating areas?

Granted the last three shows I saw there (as recently as December)were for comedians (Jon Stewart, Lewis Black, and Drew Carey's Improv All Stars)so perhaps I am mistaken, and if so, I am sorry.

I just don't want to give anyone the potentially false hope that they can get closer than is available.

LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:35:54 ET
Posted by: LadyB, tiredofwritingthis

Bill...

I think you are insane. (I appreciate the potential offer, but really, I think that to pony up the money...oh wait, that's only about twenty bucks more than I paid for my seats as they are.)

I am in section E, row G, which should be full on, seventh row.

Considering I paid up for the five star at Beacon, I'll deal with these.

Heck, Bill, if you don't like your seats, how about my first pair? Section F, row V?

So confused......

LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:34:58 ET
Posted by: ph, countdown to ecstacy...er...morph

46 days until morph is officially released!

I'm going to do this every day.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:33:48 ET
Posted by: harrison, New York

Correction. They usually close section A & H at Westbury. Artists come out of entrance between section A & H.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:32:38 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, nyc

Q!

How are you? They, as far as I know, cannot cut the stage, but it does normally rotate. Ticketmaster did state that the show will not rotate, but it is always in the round. The only way to cut the stage would be to actually put seats ON the stage, which I can't imagine them doing. The whole venue isn't that big, and the stage certainly isn't.

This is going to be fun..will be nice to see some familiar faces!

LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:31:24 ET
Posted by: harrison, New York

Hello, everyone! When they use only half-round at North Fork Theatre at Westbery, they usually close section A & G from my past experience there. I got Section C, Row B. Wow. After I got the seat, Sec. F, Row A came out (the very first row!). But while I hesitated to buy it, it was gone...Anyway, I can't complain for the second row!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:30:55 ET
Posted by: NYB,

Okay... Row G, I think that would be... A,B,C,D,E,F,G... 7th row? 7th row near center? Not too bad for a random hit I guess. But now here's what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna buy the 4-Star tickets also. Now if I don't like were they put me in the 4-Star seats I'm gonna sit in the 7th row instead, provided these seats are end-row seats, which I don't know if they are or not because the seating chart doesn't really tell you. Then I'll give whichever tickets I don't use to someone else so they can have a better seat. And they say I have no heart... Pshaw!

* You heard me right. If I don't like where they put me in the 4-Star seats I'm gonna give those 4-Star seats to someone else. And yes Karen, I know what you look like...


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:30:43 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, nycish

Well, as far as I can tell, Section E is full on, Section F is side orchestra view, so I would guess that D is full on, as is C, but that G and H might be more fully behind the stage.

Mind you, the stage ain't all that large at Westbury....

At this point, I would advise that you throw your tickets back at least once to see if you do better. I don't think that these are going all THAT fast, since it is presale and I am not sure it is that well advertised.

Bonne chance....

LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:25:01 ET
Posted by: Q, TPA

I heard that while Long Island is in the round normally, that they will be cutting it in half for this show?

Anyone ca verify or not?

I got section F - anyone know where that would be relative to stage if they do cut it to a half pie?

Also, does anyone know how many seats in a section?

I know I can cal the venue and I will and will report if I get any useful info, but if anyone is already in the know on this I and I'm sure others would appreciate the scoop.

Viva Sir Don!

Can only hope for a full Dan tour later! (whenever)
PS I was really happy to see WB with the bass in his hand on his homepage.
IMHO, I think WBs best work has always been on bass and I would love to see him take up that role some on stage if/when THe Dan tour - anyone else? Any thoughts?


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:23:26 ET
Posted by: skokiebob, chicago

CHICAGO PRE-SALE 10 AM
nightfly


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:21:12 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, NYC.....

I believe that when you search for tickets, it tells you if you are going to have a side orchestra view or if the seats are behind.

But hell, I don't think I trust Ticketmonster anymore. The only good thing is that when i just checked online, I could not find better seats than the second pair I ordered, so the system must be better.

Good luck...


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:20:46 ET
Posted by: Duncan, UK

Row D Orch Beacon

YES !!!!!!

I was offered Balcony seats first also ?
took 3 goes to get the one I wanted.

YES !!!!!! YES !!!!!! YES !!!!!!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:18:19 ET
Posted by: JoeM,

LadyBaside,

Since the Westbury Theater is in the round - which sections are in front of the band? Appreciate any input you con offer up...


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:17:08 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, NYCish

Okay, I was all happy, now I am royally PISSED. Just for s&g I went back onto Ticketbastard to see what would be available a few minutes into presale, and I was able to find BETTER tickets by throwing back twice. So, now I have two extra tickets, which are perfectly good seats, because as I said there are no bad seats at this venue (the furthest seats are no more than say, 70 feet from the stage), but what the heck?

Totally belies the get in early theory, right?

In any event, if anyone wants the extra seats, which I know I can't use, let me know. Otherwise, I will try to sell them on Tmonster.

Grrrrrrr


LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:13:53 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, NYCeast


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:03:28 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, NYCish

you don't need Amex but you need MORPH


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 09:02:55 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, NYCeast

Got em. As there really is not a bad seat in the house at North Fork Westbury, I took whatever showed up.

Good luck...

LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 08:59:41 ET
Posted by: HELP!, h

WHATs the CODE??????????????

HAVE AMEX but no CODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HELP!!!!!!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 08:33:38 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, NYCeast

I just noticed that Penny had assumed that Monday is the date for tickets from Ticketmaster...don't get confused with VIP packages...there is an INTERNET presale this morning at 9 am eastern via ticketmaster. Same password as for the VIP packages, which might throw some people.

I would just hate for someone to miss tickets (especially Penny, who I know from the Bayside Baccanal at Jones Beach [scuse the spelling, it's too early]) because of a little confusion.

Good luck, ticketseekers!

LadyB


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 08:06:03 ET
Posted by: TJ, DK

Just heard it again, on XM Cafe. Probably the most straigthforward tune from SD/Don in a long time. You just get it, and love it immediately.

Classic build up. One chord building op a lot of tension, which is released in the excellent chorus.

Only thing missing is a C-part, a contrast part, these were actually some of the highlights on the EMG album! (Last Mall, GW, EMG, Slang etc.) But hey, instead we got two nice solos, especially the guitarwork is top notch!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 07:53:09 ET
Posted by: TJ, DK

Radio Dupree is playing H-gang now. Once an hour. I just heard it for the first time, full edition. Holy f****** Moses! It was great. I'm depressed now. How am I supposed to wait for the album...?!

Anyway; A little bit of 2. Arrangement harmony going on in the end of the chorus, and the sax solo part reminded me of the solopart of "Everything Must Go", at least the chords.

Can't wait to hear it in proper soundquality. Those backingvocals and horns deserve the best.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 07:50:55 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

I took my nephew to see Lion King at Boston Opera House, its a perfect place for this show, the sound and comfort will be amazing. I gots my VIP Tix, just hope Im not the last 2 seats far stage right or left!!!!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 07:25:15 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, TN

So if E.S. is at, and perhaps mixing, these shows, would it be a reasonable assumption that a Donald Fagen live album could be a possibility? Simple show of hands to see who would buy it...right, that's what I thought. So for Chicago, everyone is going sans VIP? Doing the party thing? I'd hate to spend 500$ on two tickets, but I'm kinda a fool with money, so let me know if the plans have changed.

Matt


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 07:09:51 ET
Posted by: NOSTATIC, Home of the Rag

Chris,
Your right about the Manchester Show. Tweet and The Sun were sold out though.
Love the sound at the Tweeter. Much damper and tighter sound. The halls echo more than I like.
Mohegan was a blast. Great place for a show and drinks and eats.

Still waiting to hear from anyone thats tried ILOVEALLACCESS.
Thanks,
Mark

P.S. See all you other DanFiends at the the soundcheck and preshow party!!!!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 06:55:35 ET
Posted by: Chan, Boston

Actually, the Opera House is on Washington Street just below Downtown Crossing. It was renovated over the past few years and has had Lion King and presently getting ready for Phantom and Les Miz. DF will be outstanding there with great acoustics and comfy chairs!


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 04:12:00 ET
Posted by: dunk,

check your computers clock here..
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 02:38:19 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Party starts when you get there on the afternoon of the 7th...accept no substitutes.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 02:01:11 ET
Posted by: Ticketmaster Advisor,

Just a word of advice....for those of you thinking about going to the venue to wait in line for tickets, think again. All tickets are sold through the same system whether you buy by phone, online, or at the box office. Last year I was buying tickets for a concert halfway across the country. My friend who lived near the theater went to the box office and waited in line (for 3 hours!). By the time he got to the box office, the show was sold out. In the meantime, I phoned ticketmaster the minute they went on sale and was able to get floor seats....and I was 1,500 miles away!

Do not think you will be getting better seats if you buy from the box office. Even if you're 5th in line, there will be hundreds of calls and internet sales placed before you get to the window.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 00:59:10 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, Hope to see you at our party Penny and get to know you


I want to warn you Rajah is a bit strange but the food will be good.


Date: Fri, January 20, 2006, 00:44:13 ET
Posted by: PennyK, a small island somewhere near New York

Hey, Gretchen - I am definitely going to the Westbury show...I know you don't know me , but I was at
Roseland and Jones Beach too (brought the truffles). I can't afford VIP, but I will be getting my ticket as soon as the regularly priced ones come up (Monday, I guess).


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 23:00:34 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Opera House

Q - The Wang Center is the old Music Hall. The Orpheum is still the Orpheum (creaky balcony and all). The Opera House is on Boylston down near the Public Gardens. They rarely have concerts there. It's 99% plays and musicals. A friend of mine says they just renovated the place and it's stunning.


Scooped up VIP seats today! I think $225 is pretty reasonable. I like the fact that $225 is $225. No service and handling charges or theatre restoration fees. Heck, a souncheck, no more than 7 rows back and a party? See ya at the show Fezman, Big Fan, Chan, etc.
Since, we'll probably have to be at the venue early for the soundcheck, anyone for a Donfest/long lunch at a local Pub??

LP - I take it you and the huubby are coming down for the show??

Making plans and checking prices for Borgata the next night. (The Boston to Borgata Donfest Caravan....yeah!)

Then there's St. Patty's in Chicago....

Mark in Boston


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 22:31:06 ET
Posted by: TP, Mizar 5 for awhile........!

Check out WB's archives everyone.

http://www.writingaffairs.com/mizar5net/index.php?cat=10


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 22:13:57 ET
Posted by: chris, nh

NOSTATIC: Verizon Center? in Manch, NH? I was there and thought it was 60% full at best... missed the Tweeter show though, wouldn't be surprised if that was sold out. it was in 2000.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 22:07:27 ET
Posted by: Q, TPA

Is the Boston Opera House the same as the old "Music Hall"/"Wang Center", or the Orpheum???

I used to go to college in Boston and saw many great shows at those two awesome old music theaters, but I have never heard of "the Opera House".


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 21:58:08 ET
Posted by: Tall Paul, LoL

try MORPH


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 21:55:22 ET
Posted by: Tall Paul, LoL

Say it isn't so.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 21:50:10 ET
Posted by: scott, chicago

does anyone know the password for the Chicago show going on sale tomorrow? Thanks-


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 21:47:47 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, Internet Bride

Is anyone thinking of going to the Westbury LI show? Chicago sounds like it may be this year's Roseland...can't wait for that one.

Toya - good to see you back here, hope you'll be at the Beacon but we'll see you in Chi, you can dance with Rajah again. Kick ass, girl!!



G


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 21:26:07 ET
Posted by: Chan, Boston

Just got 2 4 stars for The Opera House. Should be awesome! Who is in the band?? Any word on set lists??


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 21:17:19 ET
Posted by: scoots, at my computer

Was I the only one who thought the "VIP" package was available for 5 or so shows?

Not the case!

The I Love Access Site now lists VIP package availability with every show on Donald's 18 city tour! Decisions, decisions.....


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 19:56:04 ET
Posted by: Rajah, sweet soul music

RIP you VIP, wickett wickett Wilson Pickett takes a bow.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 19:18:34 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, whatever

And LWO, as far as I can tell, you do NOT need an American Express card for presale. I would think that AmEx exclusive events have that requirement, but Ticketmonster made no such regulation for this show.

Late sender of thank yous, but no less grateful (LWO)....

LadyB


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 19:16:23 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, NYCeast

NYB...

As far as I can remember, Ticketmonster will tell you your exact seats and you have the option to 'throw em back' and look for another set. Caveat: the new tickets are often immediately next to or a row behind the others. So, I guess if you get close, you can toss em and hope you get something closer to your ideal.

I'm just taking whatever I can get tomorrow, knowing that I will have VIP for Beacon. But honestly, I got the VIP seats for the soundcheck and the other stuff more than the seat location.

LadyB


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 18:51:44 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, call me de-confused

I'm glad you've worked out your issues, NYB, at least for the Fagen show. Now tell me...did we decide that it was a prerequisite to have an American Express card to purchase the presale tix?

Good news from Pechanga! It's all they say...


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 18:43:37 ET
Posted by: NYB, paranoia strikes deep

No wait a minute... Now I know what I have to do!

I'll have to buy the best tickets I can get tommorrow morning, even if they aren't the type of tickets I want. THEN, on Monday morning I'll buy the type of tickets I want, if I can buy the type of tickets I want, and then sell (or give) the other tickets to someone else who wants those tickets because those are the tickets they want.

Okay! I think I finally got it figured out. Buying tickets to a Donald Fagen event is a helluva lot more complicated than one might think! No? :)


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 18:41:12 ET
Posted by: fezman, boston

Oh happy day !!!! just reserved two 5 star for boston show !!! The balls of my feet are twitching.....lol


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 18:36:35 ET
Posted by: NYB, just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in

Okay so here's another question. Yet ANOTHER dilemma!

When ordering through Ticketmaster online, you can designate the price level seats you want (Orchestra, Mezzanine, ect...) but can you also designate WHERE in the aisle you want to be? I don't think you can do that, I think the online Ticketmaster system only tells you the section and the aisle but not the exact seats. This might be a problem. If it is I may have to wait until Monday so that I can tell them EXACTLY what type of seats I want.

I know, perfectionism is a curse...


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 18:27:50 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, NYCish

Okay, I've been validated. Thank you SOH.

LadyB


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 18:23:59 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Tick-Tock...

Roger that, LadyB...

Just got home and the email was in my box too...

The presale password is MORPH...

SoH


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 18:19:26 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, NYCish

NYB...

send your email address to mine, and I will send you the link I received, oh doubting Thomas.

you definitely owe me one.


LadyB


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 18:03:30 ET
Posted by: NYB,

Are you sure you're not mixing up the Ticketmaster pre-sale password with the ILoveAllAccess password LB? Or are they both the same password? ILoveAllAccess sent me that password too but I didn't think it was going to be the same for the pre-sale tickets.

One of the big reasons I didn't purchase the 4/5 Star tickets is, I don't want them telling me where to sit. I know the kind of seating I like and I don't want them to decide that for me. I'd rather sit further back so long as I'm situated where I like to be situated for a concert.

But if you're right, and the password does turn out to be the same password, I will owe you one. :)


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 17:58:08 ET
Posted by: Aloha, The Big Island

Dunc
If you can't stand boogie or crawl why attend, hope we havent come to this, but tight seating =$ the other night Al played a church on the mainland 250 plus all acoustic he does this at times and by the accounts this is what music once was.
I had that experience at Ronnie Scotts club once and the Robin 2 last October.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 17:53:46 ET
Posted by: NOSTATIC, Home of the Rag

Any of you folks do the 5star with allaccess previously?
This is my first time and don't know what to expect. I've done ok with ticketmaster in the past when I had a TS1 line at work before anyone else had broadband.
3 shows last time around all within 10 or 15 rows.
(I wanted to quit my job and be a groupie for the whole tour.)

Anyway saw this allaccess avenue for this time around and thought give it a try. Beat ticketmaster by 2 days and maybe get some nice perks.

The 3 shows I went to were all packed houses. TWEETER CENTER, VERIZON CENTER and MOHEGAN SUN.

I think Fagen could probably get $100 bucks a ticket and pack the Opera house. Tons of Dan Fans up here in New England and the Opera House is a small venue.

Again any info you all may have about this VIP ticketing would be great.
Thanks All


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 17:50:11 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, NYCish

Ah, the drama. NYB, just refer to me henceforth as your savior, your Queen.

The password is Morph. I signed up for some concert alert and in my mailbox was a reminder that tickets were going onsale.

I did already land my VIP ticket for the Beacon. I am going solo on the 7th, but will have some very lovely company for the Westbury show...my 6 and a half year old daughter, for her very first legitimate concert. (Technically, she was present for Richie Havens about a week before she was born, but she had obstructed view seating).

See you all at the show!

LadyB


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 17:28:52 ET
Posted by: NYB,

Here's been my Ticketmaster experience so far YGK...

Called Ticketmaster this morning. Got the run-around. Got some more run-around. Then they said that Pre-Sale tickets would probably require a password to access BUT they didn't know what the password was OR who to get it from.

Got frustrated. Took a drive over to North Fork Theater at Westbury. Talked to the same disinterested part-time employee college girl that I talked to the other day when I bought the John Hiatt tickets (Hiatt and Lyle Lovett on February 12th). She said the following... "Well like I don't even see those Donald Fagen tickets being up for sale yet.". I told her I realized that, but that the Pre-Sale tickets go on sale at 9am tommorrow morning and I needed the password to access them and could she tell me who to go to to get it. She responded with... "Yeah... I really don't know. Sorry.".

SO here we are at this point... At this point we are TOTALLY FUCKING LOST! We have no idea if we're going to need a password to order the Pre-Sale tickets or not, and Ticketmaster has no friggin' idea either. Even though they're selling the tickets, they have no idea how gain access to them. Welcome to the modern world, where nobody knows anything, and even the best of them know little more than that kid working at Best Buy with the green hair and the nosering. I give up. I'll go no matter what tickets I get I guess. Fuck it...


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 17:24:40 ET
Posted by: TJ, DK

...and now Matchbox 20... Might be my cue to give it up. I Wan't Mr. Fagen!


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 17:11:36 ET
Posted by: Doc µ,

TJ: really? a remixed blues n' Elvis is on now


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 17:09:32 ET
Posted by: Doc µ,

John: That's a NICE sounding stream. I think I missed Fagen though. Hoops lives in CT, but the dandom clock is ET...thought I was early for a moment


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 17:07:14 ET
Posted by: TJ, DK

John, NYC, it's a long 1/2 hour...


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 17:00:39 ET
Posted by: DJ, Shy-town

Here's an article I don't remeber seeing, sorry if it's been posted before.

http://www.prosoundweb.com/studyhall/bp/hits/inside.php


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 16:48:10 ET
Posted by: YGK, nyc

does anyone have any experience with ticketmaster pre-sale tickets?

Fagen's Westbury and Beacaon Theatre shows go on pre-sale tomorrow at 9am........

any advice will suffice.......

ygk


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 16:28:39 ET
Posted by: downbeat, @55bar waiting

Why did I turn Donald down?

chris potter


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 16:19:23 ET
Posted by: dunk,

hmmm
the wiltern website has a link to http://www.donaldgagen.com/ ?

take care


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 16:17:18 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

H GANG IS GOING TO BE PLAYING IN THE NEXT 1/2 HOUR AT THIS STATION AND STREAM:

http://www.kbcoradio.com/main.html


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 16:14:08 ET
Posted by: Heads Up L.A.,

Even though BOTH the V.I.P. people AND the Wiltern told me that the Fagen show was all reserved seating, I just found this on the Wiltern site:

$97.50 - Main Floor Level 1 GENERAL ADMISSION (STANDING)<emphasis mine>
$97.50 - Main Floor Level 2 Reserved (Seated)
$97.50 - Main Floor Level 3 Reserved (Seated)
$89.50 - Main Floor Level 4 & 5 Reserved (Seated)
$97.50 - Loge Reserved (Seated)
$69.50 - Mezzanine (Front Section)
$49.50 - Mezzanine (Rear Section)

So, according to the website it is partially reserved seating. Which means if you buy the V.I.P. package, you will be sitting behind the standing people.

Maybe someone else wants to check this out.....
http://www.thewiltern.com/events.aspx


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 16:10:45 ET
Posted by: Proof of Nothing, Weren't Cheech & Chong In That?

fp - Chris Potter was asked to tour with Paul Motian at the same time. For a jazz musician that's...well, you finish the sentence.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 16:08:07 ET
Posted by: Pam,

Anybody planning on the New Brunswick show? It's an 1800 seat theatre, so I think I'll pass on the VIP.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 16:05:15 ET
Posted by: Doc µ,

After 2 days of tech problems, I'm finally on XM for 2 days. Anybody know when the next H-Gang transmission is? Still XM Cafe?? Thanks!


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:47:08 ET
Posted by: 2nd arrangement, 2nd engineer

why did you fire me ....all I did was what I was told to do..


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:43:49 ET
Posted by: Bob, extra

dancing is VIP+ = $1000.00


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:41:54 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

I gots my Boston VIP TIX baby, $225 and worth every penny!! I am jacked and pumped..


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:40:28 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Excellent news Doc!


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:40:22 ET
Posted by: US Weekly,

I'm sure Donald Fagen can't wait to be asked: "Where did you get the name 'Steely Dan' from?".


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:30:19 ET
Posted by: Doc µ,

http://home.nestor.minsk.by/jazz/news/2006/01/1905.html

"The album will be made available as both a CD and a CD/DVD in high-resolution audio and 5.1 Surround Sound."


YES!!!!


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:28:43 ET
Posted by: dunk,

couple of points
will you guys be able to dance
will you be allowed to stand up


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:25:17 ET
Posted by: Bob, Here's a thought

I doubt Donald will do individual meet and greets but I wonder if he or band members just might have a Q & A before or after their sound check? That could allow DF some face time without the germy contact.

Just a thought.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:24:17 ET
Posted by: Danfiend, Chicago

As it turns out I got the four star too. The real party is gonna be amongst us! Can't wait to see you guys. Where else are we meeting up? Besides Chicago I'm looking at the Beacon and at Temecula for now.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:23:16 ET
Posted by: Girlfriend, the cheap seats



Promise me a group shot of all you VIP's with your laminated passess around your necks and goody bags in hand....PLEASE!


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:20:24 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

RAJAH: will do.
i'm down for four (4)VIP Tickets for the Beacon show.
my buddy Jeff "Mr. White Widow" his main squeeze my wife and I....
my wife may not be able to make the show as she'll be in D.C. a couple of days prior.
if she can't i'll have a extra ticket available for any of you Dandomaniacs who are interested, i'll keep you posted.

Peace
A


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:19:14 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, at work sweating

Well I made the big decision to go with 5 star VIP at the Boston show I'm only going to one show so why not make it a good time. Cheaper than flying out to the Gorge.

Had trouble the first time submitting my info - both a slow connection here at work, my reading all of the fine print and my slow typing skills caused me to exceed the 5 minute time allotment. Now it’s been 10 minutes and I haven’t gotten an email confirmation – so I may have to call. What a pain.

I look at it this way - we would have gone to dinner before hand at a good restaurant - now we'll just go to the party. Made get some deal on parking which is always at a premium in Boston. I’ve sat really close to SD on several occasions – and I like it and I’m not willing to deal with scalpers anymore after some bad experiences. The Boston show was a little less pricy than some of the other 5 star ones. I’m sure once I’m in my seat I’ll be really happy.





Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:11:39 ET
Posted by: DJ, Shy-town

Hey fiend, long time no see. I went the 4 star route just now for the Chicago show so maybe we can finally meet up. And see the rest of you freaks at the pre-party...parties?

DJ

How did everyone else fair?


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:08:51 ET
Posted by: Geoff,

Danfiend: I just got my ticket, so I'll see you there, yet again! -geoff


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 15:06:26 ET
Posted by: Due with Buzz, Pumpkin Revisited

http://homepage.mac.com/lucasvanmerwijk/trioavmv/iMovieTheater279.html

ok ok, no ticket news or anything.
but while you're waiting for 'stuff', you might as well watch the video above and be in Walter Becker's shoes, for he's been there, he's seen it, he's lived it, he came back and back and back to watch these fine musicians play together...

Trio Amuedo van Merwijk Vierdag, from their album "Live in Amsterdam".
Liner notes written by Walter Becker.

SLANG ME!

DWB


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 14:35:18 ET
Posted by: Danfiend, Chicago

Yo! It has been a few years since I posted, but I am alive and well and EXCITED!!! I'll be seeing y'all across the country at various shows just as we've done in years past. Anyone who wants to get in touch with me can do so at danfiend1@hotmail.com as always. I look forward to seeing you all in a few weeks. And I will certainly be doing the 5 star package at the Chicago show. Who's with me?


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 14:32:32 ET
Posted by: Danfiend, Chicago


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 14:24:03 ET
Posted by: angel,

Don't forget to update your information at Ticketmaster, if it has been a few years since you used them.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 14:13:14 ET
Posted by: FP, ny

Proof of Life- Didn't see Downbeat. But please do tell the reasons why Potter turned it down.
Thanks!


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 14:10:11 ET
Posted by: Proof of Life, Wasn't Russell Crowe In That? And Meg Ryan?

Lost cause to even ask, but anyone here read Down Beat this month where Chris Potter talks about why he turned Donald Fagen down when asked to go out on the road with SD a second time?


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 14:09:50 ET
Posted by: Heads up L.A.,

Just spoke to the V.I.P. people and the Wiltern. The Fagen show will be all reserved seating. No GA standing. Bummer! I was hoping for a Roseland experience!


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 13:50:42 ET
Posted by: Mike F., NYC

Greetings all. Anyone have further information about the Beacon pre-sale for tomorrow? Is there a special code or password we will need? I just tried calling Tickertmaster but could not an operator. What a monopoly on ticket selling. Thanks for any info.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 13:40:58 ET
Posted by: Donald Fagen, Maui

Rajah, half of your posts are non sequiturs. If you have something to say, please have a point. The mindless dribble is a waste of everyone's time including your own.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 13:24:47 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, so far...

So...if you have folks standing in front of you ala the Wiltern...where do the VIPs sit? Not that planning to do this show, but just curious. 'Cause if there woulda been such a set-up at Roseland, those VIPs would have been mighty pissed at DaBeerBitch.

And from the international desk, for those keeping track, it appears we are gonna have visitors from across the pond at Chicago, Denver, Vegas, Temecula and Oakland shows. Possibly one of the east coast dates, as well...


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 13:12:08 ET
Posted by: Rajah, L.A.

Alkali - be sure to stop up to our soiree during the Beacon VIP thang to give us an idea of what it's all about, A VIP should have in and out privileges, no?


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 13:03:02 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC across the park from the Beacon

I'll be going to the Beacon show, atleast!
$350 is worth seeing one of my favorites.
we'll probably go to one or two of the others as well.
it'll be a nice hike across the park from my apartment !!

i've always liked the Beacon, i've seen many bands there over the years.
hope to see some of you there.

A


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 13:02:18 ET
Posted by: Aloha, The Big Island

Wow I'll give it another go, sure hope were not into burnin books here as well. The other night in chat I noticed the current Steelydan fan snobbery in full motion. Doc mu is a fine example. I enjoy Donald fagens music Doc but he wishes he had the chops of Al Kooper.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 12:53:39 ET
Posted by: Aloha, The Big Island

Clayton a fine example, you get it!


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 12:45:16 ET
Posted by: Clayton Thomas,

(Al Kooper, I. Levine)

I can't quit her
She's got a hold on me
She got her hand on my soul
I can't quit her
'cause I see her face everywhere I go
In the city streets, in the country fields
In the back of my mind
I know it can't be real
For a woman to possess
All the tenderness she had
But the hands of time
Keep tickin' on my back
'cause it's been so long
Since I had her back beside me,
Yeah, I know

I can't quit her
'cause on my darkest night
She comes on like a light
I can't quite her
Try as I may, with all my might
She had a woman's touch
And a young girls eyes,
And in seconds flat I was pros'lytized
Turned around,
And made to feel sweet love
But the hands of time
Keep tickin' on my back
'cause it's been so long
Since I had her back beside me

bridge:
True love is somethin'
Ev'ry young boy knows about
And he fights his whole soul all the best to find some
I was a young boy
'till I held her in my arms
Now I find that I'm strung out behind some

I can't quit her
She got her hand on me
She got a hold on my soul
'cause I your face everywhere I go
I can't quit her, woo ooo yeah
I know
You know I see your face
Everywhere I go!
I need her... I need the little girl

[snarly phased-out guitar solo exit...]


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 12:21:17 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

FYI, the VIP tix go on sale very shortly for the Beacon, I decline to walk the 350.00 line especially since we'll be having a wing-ding for you all @ Beacon but here's the deal, it goes on sale in 45 minutes:

Enjoy an evening VIP style with Donald Fagen, one of music's most critically acclaimed musicians. Start your 5 Star package experience with VIP parking*. Attend Donald's soundcheck - see how he puts it all together. Receive an exclusive gift bag, and attend an exclusive catered pre-show party. Then head out to your guaranteed premium seat to thrill to the legend who brought you such songs as "I.G.Y.," "Black Cow," "Century's End," "The Nightfly," "Pretzel Logic" and so many more. Can't buy a thrill? Sure you can!

Each 5 Star package includes:


A ticket in the first 6 (six) rows!**
5 Star laminate
Soundcheck
Exclusive gift bag
Pre-show party
VIP parking*


5 Star Package Price: 350.00 [Prices are in U.S. dollars]



*Where available
**Exact seat location available day of show only

--- and likewise the Wiltern at 325.00 going on sale at 2 PM PST. I'll pass - as SOH consults, a 97.50 tik standing in floor position is a much better bang for yer buck.

Chicago 5 Star VIP: 250.00 - much better deal but we'll be with Hoopsie and company so, nah...

Boston, New Brunswick and Westbury: 250/225. This is more like it.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 11:57:50 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

Thanks for doin' some o' the legwork, NYB! I was curious about presale procedures too, but I'm still waiting to see if/when the show(s) I'm interested in appear on TM and whether or not a presale is indicated.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 11:51:50 ET
Posted by: NYB, ticket bureaucracy from hell

Okay regards to ordering pre-sale tickets through Ticketmaster...

After spending 20 minutes on the phone and talking to 3 different representatives I was told that Ticketmaster DOES NOT issue the pre-sale ticket code! The pre-sale code is issued by whoever is sponsoring the event. Now WHO is sponsoring the event so that I can contact them and get the stupid code? Ticketmaster has no idea who is sponsoring the event, all they do is sell you the tickets AFTER you obtain the passcode. Sound stupid? IT IS!

Keep in mind that pre-sale Tickets go on sale tommorrow morning at 9am EST, so we don't have alot of time to figure this out.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 11:32:26 ET
Posted by: Rajah, LA

I don't know if I could stand for 3 hours, Mr. Hollywood, why oh why did they take out the fixed seats on the floor of the old Wiltern? Best show I ever saw there was a Lyle Lovet show, forgoddsakes I didn't even know who he was, he was great, a storyteller. Then Anderson, Howe & Squire were cancelled last year due to somebody's immigration snafus, our man Abu had issues.

Now the Beacon I know oh so well from the Allman shows I've been to in recent years, my old school pal O'Connor gets us 1st balony seats allatime. Like a baseball game, sometimes sitting just a few feet above the action but still close offers the most advantageous, relaxed and detached position from which to gather and surmise. Pack binocs and a J for the interval, you got your Sam Adams draft in a plastic cut and your arm arund your best girl's behind.

It makes me feel like painting again.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 11:17:46 ET
Posted by: Bodacious Cowboy, The Dude Ranch

TicketMaster is now listing 4 "national" (i.e. U.S.) DF shows and 1 international (Ottawa, Canada).

Keep'em comin' TM...


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 11:13:54 ET
Posted by: scoots,

A follow-up to my previous message regarding pre-sale events with Ticketkrapster. Perhaps one way to get the mysterious pre-sale event "code" is to set up an account with Ticketmaster (easily done online) and indicate your preferences for certain concert alerts as well as a willingness to receive pre-sale alerts through emails.

I offer no guarantees that this will give you the precious code, (confirmation from Ticketmaster has not been fruitful) and it may only provide you endless spam alerts - so use an email address that can be easily discarded (i.e. a hotmail account). But it could be worth a shot


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 11:10:45 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, In travel-agent mode...

Something tells me that the ultimate "VIP experience" on this tour is going to be at The Wiltern in LA...It's the only venue I've seen yet that has general admission (stagefront standing area) tickets available, albeit at $97.50...I'd much sooner be one of those ticket-holders than try the VIP package...Anyone who was at Roseland knows what I'm talking about...

SoH

See you at the Warner, Jenny!


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 11:02:04 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

I listened more closely to H Gang yesterday and I'm not sure it's "Ultimate Five Chord Band". It sounds like there is a k sound in there like he is saying "Ulkama" as in an old town the Gang used to live in. Maybe it's still because I don't have the pristine cd plush copy yet, but anyone else hear the k sound?

And I'm still thinking H in H Gang is Hinktown.

Living in the Midwest,
K


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 11:00:44 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

All kidding aside, the jury is out on this VIP thing. It would have to be killer for it to be worthwhile. Heck if Elliot gives a little clinic on his process at the board while soundchecking, his configurations in building the sound in a live setting, the limitations every different house poses, that would be the bees knees but I somehow can't fathom him doing that for some casual and dopey VIP crowd. Most folks couldn't care less about the EQ challenges a Donald or SD show presents. The venues are so small in comparison to the Steely Dan shows I've seen, can't imagine being in the 8th, 17th or 39th row matters much.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 10:54:05 ET
Posted by: Jenny, Fredneck, MD

NYB: It's my birthday too, I think DF has given us a gift. You're luckier since you have the actual concert then, tho. SOH - I'll be at the Warner, bet on it.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 10:50:30 ET
Posted by: scoots,

I do not know if this helps, but I inquired about the pre-sale event at North Fork in Westbury. After waiting some 10+ minutes, the Ticketmaster agent said I would likely need some sort of "code" to participate in the pre-sale. This code would have likely come in some email or other promotional vehicle. Has anyone received such a "code"? I asked him specifically about the Donald Fagen Westbury show but he could give no specifics about any specific pre-sale event at any show, he kept repeating the need for a code.

He added that during pre-sale events not all seats are available. Usually a block or an area is set aside for the pre-sale event and usually the some of the seats offered are "good seats", but no guarantees.

The ticket agent then proceeded to try and hook me into a one-time offer of a discount if I ordered something from him today. I passed.

Ticketmaster must be one of the biggest rip-offs in the last 40 years


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 10:20:03 ET
Posted by: Wondering, soo...

You soon-to-be VIP'ers did read the fine print, right? You won't know what your actual seat is until the day of the show.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 09:55:16 ET
Posted by: Dunk,

Thicketmaster are now showing the Ottawa details.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 09:50:23 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, At work - got sent home yesterday no power

Suedave - if you are coming all the way for the Beacon on Tuesday (the official release date I might add - any coincidence) then you should stick around until Thursday and go to the Boston show too. Do you still have realtives in CT? It would be half way - perfect.

Looks like I may get to go to Seattle on business the week of 5/15 - it would be nice if Don could arrange the concert then.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 09:41:02 ET
Posted by: FP, ny

NYB-
ANSWER...
Why don't you just call Ticketmaster and ask?


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 08:54:10 ET
Posted by: Doc µ,

should read "Unity with Walter..."


Nothing we don't know, but it is on Reuters:

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=musicNews&storyID=2006-01-18T231946Z_01_N18223275_RTRIDST_0_MUSIC-FAGEN-DC.XML


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 08:36:55 ET
Posted by: Doc µ,

Dan, any Noobies...the insane postings are in the infamous "Trout" from Sandy Eggo who fell off the nth dimension many years ago in an effort to become unity in a stringless Universe. Pay no attention...


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 08:09:17 ET
Posted by: Geoff,



Raj,

thank you so much! I was so close to a ticket fuck-up, I had no idea.


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 05:29:08 ET
Posted by: alan , Australia

NYB

You think you have problems, try buying tickets for these shows from Australia !

Not an easy task I can tell you...


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 05:15:39 ET
Posted by: dunk, UK

Vince
I've dropped you a line about my Fagen Plans
db


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 04:22:49 ET
Posted by: NYB, there's always a catch

QUESTION...

The presale tickets offered through Ticketmaster sometimes require the use of a specific credit card. For instance, I tried to order James Taylor tickets a couple of years ago and Ticketmaster required you pay for them with an American Express card. I don't carry American Express anymore (they pissed me off several years ago and I dropped them) so I wasn't able to buy the presale tickets. Does anybody know if this is still thier Presale policy? It's gonna suck if it is cuz' I only carry Visa and Mastercard these days.

Thanks


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 03:16:27 ET
Posted by: Richard Harris, Surrey Uk

the way to handle a woman
on that summer night long gone by& bye
we passed a couple ranglin
my minds a war
said the wise old man since the ol' riga ma ro'l began

mark me well and I'll tell you Sir
simply Love her just Love her


Date: Thurs, January 19, 2006, 01:52:54 ET
Posted by: suedave, You'll recognize where I'm from by the rust around my ears


If I can get a ticket at any price...I'll be trying for the early access VIP's and would love to meet up with the turbanator and the scarf woman - and all you other folks at the Beacon whether or not you are wearing the laminate, can distinguish between 3/4 and 6/8, or whether or not he comes to my rainy city. I L-U-V NY.

Thanks NYB for acknowledging those of us up here in the far left corner - but personally I don't mind coming to visit Donald this time around. Perhaps the two will make it up to us later in the year, or Walter will grace us with his presence <hint hint>. I look forward to catching up with those of my kind. Though I do hope some of you are not quite so cranky in person!

SOH, killer set list!


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 23:25:35 ET
Posted by: Peter, Lake Tahoe Nev.

I will be there and deliver my famous poverty punch that Raj wants so bad. It's not Jimmy Jone's Jungle juice that every yuppie gulps. By the way which ones Rajah? I understand it's a Masquerade party.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 23:24:23 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Sorry.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 23:17:48 ET
Posted by: BC, Wherever

Tix for North Fork Theatre: US $60.00 - $85.00

INTERNET ON SALE INFO
On sale to General Public:
Mon, 01/23/06 10:00 AM EST

INTERNET PRESALE INFO
Start: Fri, 01/20/06 09:00 AM EST
End: Fri, 01/20/06 09:00 PM EST


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 23:12:55 ET
Posted by: Bodacious Cowboy, The Dude Ranch

TicketMaster is now listing the 3/3 Westbury, NY, show (with presale) in addition to the 3/18 Chicago show...

Fri, 03/03/06
8:00 PM -- North Fork Theatre at Westbury, NY
presale begins: Fri, 01/20/06 09:00 AM

Sat, 03/18/06
8:00 PM -- The Chicago Theatre, Chicago, IL
on sale: Sat, 01/21/06 10:00 AM


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 23:02:00 ET
Posted by: Rajah, shazzam

Honey, what happened, all of a sudden you're funny. Are we coming to grips with reality, petal? You go.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 22:51:54 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Please come.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 22:47:49 ET
Posted by: Rajah, sorry James

Gotcha...

Now, for something completely different...


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 22:47:35 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, There's plenty in Chicago for THIS monkey woman to do.....



PRE SHOW PARTY AT THE BEACON HOTEL MARCH 7!!!

Rajah and I would like to invite everyone to our suite at the Beacon Hotel in NYC for a pre concert gathering (with responsible but reprehensible refreshments and light victuals, of course)prior to Donald's March 7 show at the Beacon Theatre. Let's create a Pagoda of Funn, say around 5 30 pm EST.

Trust me, you won't want to miss this.

The hotel is located at 2130 Broadway at 75th Street, NYC
Ask at the front desk for "THE PARTY"

For more info, email either me or my OLD man!


G


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 22:21:30 ET
Posted by: hoops,


Rajah please stop chirping.

jim


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 22:20:06 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

That was the dropping the subject post. Or this it? Damn. You tricked me on that one. I gotta try harder next time.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 22:14:34 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Apparently trying to be one of the very few people here who don't act like assholes makes me an asshole. Whatever. Besides, do I really care what someone posting anonymously thinks about me?


The much higher quality of XM's stream made H Gang sound even better than before. Very tasty. That extended intro and outro is just what the song needed (That Rhodes flourish before the windchimes is great!). I can't wait to buy a copy of this single to hold me over until the album itself is released.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 22:12:53 ET
Posted by: Rajah, chirp chirp

Can't touch this.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 22:04:36 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

Just heard H Gang on XM 45.....as I thought the open was longer as was the end...the middle solos were the same length though which surprised me. All in all...damn fine tune.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 21:46:03 ET
Posted by: edbeatty, @out here somewhere

SOH

HFS
I agree on the set list


ed


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 21:45:27 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Hoops does us all a great service by spending his time, money, and effort to keep this place going in spite of all the bullshit. What's wrong with giving him his props? If nothing else, how's the old saying go? Never bite the hand that feeds you.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 21:39:10 ET
Posted by: Rajah, LA

Give the Blue Devil Hoops his due, he's a stalwart lad.

BTW, you lost your PQ verisimilitude of the other night but...close.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 21:24:15 ET
Posted by: Rajah , I like the way you schmoove

What, two go arounds for the New Frontier, J? Now if it was Confide in Me...

The funn quotient of the VIP thang would depend on the relative cool of the group and their familiarity with the man and his music. But I generally get that here for free so...

Hoopsie, if ANYONE should be on the VIP list for any show anywhere, it should be you, gratis, and with the best wishes of everyone. In fact, you should be that Tourguide with Pete, your presentation in Cincinnati last summer was schmoove.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 21:04:03 ET
Posted by: DF, Detroit

NYB the reason for no Seattle dates is quite clear, the over the top and zealous fan reactions that borders on hysteria and stalking. Throw in the lack of sunshine and you have serious consequences.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 21:00:53 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, ADD,,,huh? What?

Can ya DIG it?

DF set list at the Beacon:

True Companion (MAJOR into...DF strolls in)
Ruby Baby (Joint's jumpin'...Crowd provides backround vibe)
Countermoon
Introduces a tune from MORPH THE CAT
Waaaaaaaay extended intro from "Song For My Father" and segues into...
Maxine
Springtime
Introduces a tune from MORPH THE CAT
Trans-Island Skyway
New Frontier

Green Flower Street (with another intro post-intermezzo)
Nightfly
Introduces a tune from MORPH THE CAT
Snowbound
More MORPH THE CAT
New Frontier
Florida Room
On The Dunes


The Goodbye Look
Dr. Wu


Hey, what the hell...Right?

SoH


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 20:01:31 ET
Posted by: Tall Paul, Land of Lincoln

thanks ph have you visited this site? Got to be Costly!
http://www.elssurround.com
This is what I want for my TT........Buick


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 19:49:52 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

NYB - He's GOT to be adding more dates eventually. So far, he's not even getting remotely close to the southeast!


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 19:38:08 ET
Posted by: ph,

I wouldn't know. When I bought my Saturn a year ago, within a week I had replaced the headunit and all four speakers, so I didn't really get a chance to pay attention to the original quality. The speakers were blown anyways. I got the DVD deck a few months ago and the step up from my cheap Mp3/CD unit was killer. Very very crisp and the Dolby Pro Logic adds a significant "WOW!!!" factor. If there wasnt engine/road noise, the set up would probably be better than my home theater.

here are all of PS's Mobile DVD units in case you want to spend a little less:
http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage.cfm?&Webpage_ID=3&DID=7&CAT_ID=44&ObjectGroup_ID=307&SO=2


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 19:31:33 ET
Posted by: Tall Paul, Land of Lincoln

Hey ph...... You have descibed a DVD player. DVD-Audio is what I was referring too.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 19:23:08 ET
Posted by: Tall Paul, Land of Lincoln

Great I have looking at the site to no avail.
Is it much different sounding than DOlby Surround, like most cars are equipped with?


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 19:18:59 ET
Posted by: ph,

Paul,
here's the exact one i have:
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=205-577
not 150 anymore though... since when to do electronics go UP in price??
200 still isn't bad for a car headunit. most places sell similar stuff for 400-500 bucks.
our family buys a lot of stuff from parts express, they're pretty great guys.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 19:18:07 ET
Posted by: If I spend the bucks on the VIP tickets, Will Donald Play "Kulee Baba"?

Does anyone have Elliot's email?


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 19:15:46 ET
Posted by: NYB,

QUESTION...

Are these dates the ONLY DATES, or are they the only dates SO FAR?
Seems like a few major cities have been left out. Most notably Seattle! What, no Seattle date? Seattle is big SD country man! I mean we just gotta have a Seattle date right? If we can do Ottawa and Toronto we can sure as hell do Seattle no?

Message to Donald:
I think you owe StAl and company at least one date big guy, don't you?


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 19:15:17 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, XMRUS

I know it seems like I'm a pimp for XM (and I am...) but you can hear (and grab, if you know what you're doing) the full version of H-Gang in glorious stereo TONIGHT on XM 45 at about 9:52 ET...

Do the free trial NOW!
http://xmro.xmradio.com/xstream/index.jsp

SoH


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 19:11:46 ET
Posted by: Tall Paul, Land of Lincoln

Thanks ph I just ordered a bulb for my LCD TV from them!

I just heard Chicago VIP $250/150!


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 19:04:58 ET
Posted by: ph,

Paul, You can get an aftermarket DVD-A player for you car just under $150 @ www.partsexpress.com

I've got one and it's very top notch. Even has the DTS and Dolby decoders.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 18:57:29 ET
Posted by: Tall Paul, Josie's coming Home!

Gotta have DVD-A for the next car!

Keith C. is on board, any others?
What about Herrington?


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 18:48:58 ET
Posted by: hoops,

I wonder if it means ELS will be at the boards for these shows?! That would be so insanely cool!


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 18:46:08 ET
Posted by: angel,

OK, Checked out the ELS stuff on the VIP page and saw that wonderful picture of The Donald.

Hey Gretchen, look, he's wearing a scarf!


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 18:43:27 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Wondering....

Is Cola Brain Freeze kinda like an Arctic Mindbath?

SoH


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 18:32:47 ET
Posted by: elliott the tour guide,

elliott the tour guide?


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 18:31:15 ET
Posted by: Rajah, I have some things and I need some things

What he said. ELS would not put on anything shabby.

First I need the name of that Neurologist to increase my cash flow as we ramp up to VIP-dom. Then I need a VIP outfit. A turtle neck with a very tasteful pendant to set it off. Most of all, I need a VIP 'tude. Peter will help me. And I need the wife to curtail all spending ASAP.

I gotta go, there's a lot to do.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 18:23:45 ET
Posted by: hoops,

http://www.elssurround.com

What a find, SOH! Well, although I can't afford VIP, I feel so much more better about this. Great!

jim


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 18:13:21 ET
Posted by: Man In A Coonskin Cap, got 11 dollar bills?

Fergit about those VIP tickets dudes! I can get ya a meeting with the man himself fer just like $50 bucks! I happen to know for a fact that Fagen habitually stops at the local 7-11 store nearest the venue for a newspaper and one of those cola BrainFreeze things, if we time it just right I can put ya in the same aisle as the man who wrote "Maxine" and "I.G.Y"! Once yer there you can strike up a conversation! I dunno, I guess you could say something like "Good God the Jets sucked this year huh?" or maybe something like "You see foot powder around here somewhere buddy?". Yeah, somethin' like that y'know? And who knows where the conversation might lead! Donald might take a likin' to ya and invite you back to the show and let you stand up on stage and play the cowbell or whatever! The possibilities are endless dudes, and you can have it all fer just like $50 bucks! Meet me at the entrance to the venue like six hours before the show, hit me up with money, and I'll give you the directions to the 7-11 store Donald will be at along with the time to catch him there!

I'm tellin' ya, you miss out on this and you're gonna kick yerself in the mornin'!


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 18:12:08 ET
Posted by: Yosemite Sam, tarnation

Well, hells's bells ya big Gallut, why didn't say that afore, Elliot Scheiner is the dude presenting this wing-ding? By gum, I'll pay my four bits to see this high diving act.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 18:03:55 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Natch...

Did y'all catch it on the VIP Ticket Packages page?

"Presented by ELS Surround"

And ELS is none other than Elliot L. Scheiner, of course...

SoH


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 17:57:40 ET
Posted by: Rajah, catoon in a cartoon graveyard

Geoff - go to DF's website and sign up for the VIP alert email. I see that VIPs will be required to sign a waiver and release of liability, I kid you not. C'mon now, I'm a VIP, I wanna photo opportunity, I wanna shot at redemption, what on earth are you planning on doing to me for four hours before the show that I need to sign your waiver? Load in Carlock's kit or unpack the Fender Rhodes? Oh I see the evil plan.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 17:49:24 ET
Posted by: Joey,

" Finally - the board is interesting to read again. I can feel the buzz. "



Damn Straight My Steelian Kin !!!!!!!!!!!

What a Glorious Year 2006 will be ...


I am now so excited that I'm typing this with my nipples .

Snuggle to the Joe !!!


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 17:40:52 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

I had to wait the entire long holiday weekend before the station updated their playlists, but 88.5 WXPN is playing "H Gang" in the Philadelphia area. Apparently they played it once friday (13), once saturday (14), not at all sunday (15), and then once more monday (16)...

http://www.xpn.org/playlists.php -- to view lists of songs played
http://www.xpn.org/request.php -- to request "H Gang"
http://www.xpn.org/listen.php -- to listen to streaming audio

They claim to have a 96K "hi fidelity" stream for hi-speed internet users, but since I have dialup I have no idea if it's truly "hi fidelity." Folks can try it if they wanna, but they're not overplaying "H Gang" so it might be kinda hard to pick it up unless you specifically request it and then want to listen for it (or if they give you some idea of when they might play it). I just don't have the time right now myself.

This is the same station that, to the best of my knowledge, was the only once in the Philly area to play "Blues Beach" at all in 2003.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 17:38:53 ET
Posted by: van gogh, louvre

geoff van gogh?


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 17:24:21 ET
Posted by: Geoff,

What time Saturday do these tickets go on sale? Do VIP and Ticketmaster start at the same time?

Vincent - yes, I am.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 17:23:23 ET
Posted by: string hanging, near random universe

I just cut the string and go on..


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 17:14:37 ET
Posted by: Mr. Lapage,

Finally - the board is interesting to read again. I can feel the buzz.

Roundtrip airfare, Louisville to Chicago - $98
Nephew picking me up at Midway (assuming plane doesn't overshoot the runway) - free
Night's stay with said nephew - free
2 tickets to Don - $100?
1 liter Maker's Mark - $25
1 2-liter Diet Pepsi - $1.29

What are the chances Mrs. Lapage will let me go? I've only been married 23 years - oh shit, my anniversary is the 19th.

Oh well.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 17:13:44 ET
Posted by: NYB,

"Somewhat incredibly, Bill had the same most reasonable viewpoint in his post of last night." (PeterQ)


Somewhat incredibly, Donald decided to release his new cd on Bill's birthday. Think that's a coincidence? Alright so it's a coincidence but... but... I'm sure there's some karmic reason behind choosing that date y'know, and it's probably because Donald realizes that He and I have a bond that transcends the 3-dimensional universe and... and uh... well... it all has to do with "N-Dimensionalism" and... and... and PARALLEL EUCLIDIAN DIMENSIONALITY okay? OKAY?! And quite frankly I don't have time to explain it to you right now so don't ask!


P.S.)Where the heck is Snakehips?


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 17:11:59 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

Rajah said: "As I understand the concept of 'n-dimensional' I think only of my poor understanding of quantum physics and seem to recall there are four known dimensions, the x-y-z coodinates we learned from analytic geometry plus the dimension of time. This n-dimention is a theory that there is yet still a fifth dimension running perpendicular to the time dimension and which contemplates other worlds or beings or both inhabiting that space, in complete contradiction to Aristotelian and Euclidian dimensionality. Possibility and prosperity in the n-dimensional realm might not be at all connected with making a pile of cash. Something to consider anyway."

Rajah, I recall watching "Nova: The Elegant Universe" on PBS and finding out that modern string theory posits as many as 10 or more possible dimensions. Wikipedia has this to say...


From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory

"String theory allows one to compute the number of spacetime dimensions from first principles. Technically, this happens because Lorentz invariance can only be satisfied in a certain number of dimensions. This is roughly like saying that if an observer measures the distance between two points, then rotates by some angle and measures again, the observed distance only stays the same if the universe has a particular number of dimensions.

The only problem is that when the calculation is done, the universe's dimensionality is not four as one may expect (three axes of space and one of time), but twenty-six. More precisely, bosonic string theories are 26-dimensional, while superstring and M-theories turn out to involve 10 or 11 dimensions."


It goes on to get even more abstruse, with incomprehensible equations and everything. I'm sure everyone cared about all that...

Anyway, we Dan fans know there are at >>>least<<< 10 dimensions to Steely Dan/Fagen/Becker music.
______________________

Finally, a question for the Blue masses...

Yesterday I walked into a CD store and saw this available for $12 used...

http://www.cdvideo.info/donaldfagen_nf.shtml

I passed on it since I of course have "The Nightfly" in my collection and figured if I bought this one it'd be like paying $12 for the video alone. The audio of "New Frontier" and "Maxine" are listed as "7 inch version" and "LP version" respectively. (Wow! Donald made a special version for Luckless Pedestrian. Cool!)

I popped it in the store's little listening station and listened to both tunes in full---they sounded the same as the regular versions as far as I could tell without having listened to the regular versions lately.

I've never seen the New Frontier video and don't know if it's worth spending $12. I kinda figured not, but I'm open to being persuaded otherwise if there's an overwhelming consensus and clamor that the item is a MUST-HAVE. So, any thoughts H gang?...


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 17:10:56 ET
Posted by: Re: Vip events, nh

the fact is, DF's primary fan base are baby boomers with money to burn. it makes perfect sense to have a VIP package.

i'm bummed i won't get a chance to sit up close but i'm glad that the ticket prices are going to be (somewhat) affordable. for a kid in high school who has to pay for a good portion of his college education (imagine that!), dropping 60 bucks on a concert is something i've gotta plan for and seriously think about.

thank god for tax returns.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 16:52:44 ET
Posted by: besides, who

YELL OUT THE 2ND ARRANGEMNT TO DONALD DURING A SOUND CHECK?


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 16:39:17 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, we've got to have some music

Today's posts have been hilarious....("don't take me alive to a vip event") reminds me what I love most about Danfans and why I try to spend my spring/summer break with them every year.

Chicago appears to be the first battle on the New Frontier and we need a plan of attack! Wouldn't ya just hate to spend big bucks to get there, like our friends from across the pond, and then NOT get a seat?

From my headcount, there are going to be at least 10 Bluebookers who already have plane flights booked....DOSES!


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 16:32:27 ET
Posted by: joihn, nyc

http://store.repriserec.com/store/product.asp?upc=093624843528&type=music&mscssid=XS7P7AKH1QGN8KB3EK0QAL4WLHPQ3GUC


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 16:31:25 ET
Posted by: PQ, NYC

Isn't she the fucken bomb?

Prosperity - whether financial or other - eliminates bitching about prices of things. Some posts here - Gail's, for example - is the embodiment of prosperity thinking that is not related to money. She could care less about the VIP seat, so it doesn't bother her. She's not accusing Don of 'fleecing.' Somewhat incredibly, Bill had the same mosdt reasonable viewpoint in his post of last night.

On the other hand, bitching that Don is ripping people off amounts to putting a sign on your penis hanging from a string "I want the VIP ticket but can't afford it and am extremely bitter about it." That's the opposite - scarcity consciousness.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 16:29:24 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Although Chicago is s not an 'XRT show, WXRT is announcing that DF tickets go on sale this Saturday. So there will be alot of interest in the 3,xxx tickets.

jim


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 16:18:39 ET
Posted by: Rajah, keep the Phentermine comin'

wonder what it does...

Peter, in the interest of a full contextual experience, here is the full quote from WB:

"That is to say, all that will soon be offered herein will not only enhance the experience of the finished product — yours and mine — but will serve to expand our awareness of the n-dimensional universe of possibility and prosperity which is our birthright and our legacy."

As I understand the concept of "n-dimensional" I think only of my poor understanding of quantum physics and seem to recall there are four known dimensions, the x-y-z coodinates we learned from analytic geometry plus the dimension of time. This n-dimention is a theory that there is yet still a fifth dimension running perpendicular to the time dimension and which contemplates other worlds or beings or both inhabiting that space, in complete contradiction to Aristotelian and Euclidian dimensionality. Possibility and prosperity in the n-dimensional realm might not be at all connected with making a pile of cash. Something to consider anyway.

BTW, thanks for that CD you sent me, that woman is one crazy package, forgot her name but she's kind of like a sexy version of Mellissa Etheridge, only bisexual and extremely kinky. May she live long and prosper.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 16:14:45 ET
Posted by: the peak, is playing h gang

right now


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 15:44:16 ET
Posted by: hoops,

More on the browser pop-up about Donald's tour and album. It came up when you have netscape.com as your home page. Netscape is a Time-Warner company as is, of course, Donald's record label, Reprise. So I am not so sure it is localized.

jim


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 15:24:04 ET
Posted by: ph, probably should get to work...nah

Just found out I can stay at my ex-chem teacher's mom's house the night of the chicago gig! w00t! I still don't think I'll be buying VIP tickets though. It's the principle of the thing! :)

I hope to meet many of you there...this will be my first SD related concert! I'm so excited!!


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 15:14:24 ET
Posted by: Gretchen,

The windy city on St. Patrick's weekend is nothing a Dan fan should miss......green earrings, anyone?

G


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 15:05:33 ET
Posted by: PQ, NYC

And another thing: Walter Becker says on his site "Prosperity is our birthright and our legacy," which is a nice summary of every motivational principle ever discovered. *He* doesn't think money, or people with money, are evil. Check it!!


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 14:55:44 ET
Posted by: Yeah but,

I wonder if Donald will actually be doing some European dates later in the year? I don't think we have all the dates yet do we? I mean he probably won't be, but you never know. Too bad we can't call Donald and ask him.


Er..., we CAN'T call Donald and ask him can we?


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 14:52:37 ET
Posted by: don't take me to a vip event alive,

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001880742



Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 14:47:27 ET
Posted by: Vincent, Glasgow

This tour better be worth it. I've spent half today trying to square a cicle that says meet work requirements(which are very inconsiderately distributed in March), find a flight to the USA that leaves from a convenient airport at a convenient time to a convenient gig (Boston or Chicago look best, but godammit, my ideal - New York - clashes with serious responsibilities I can't eschew). Lets see - £300 to fly to the US, £100 on transfers into airports, £200 for several nights in a not-too-sleazy hotel, running costs (budget on around £30/day, maybe £120 total); that's £720 before any essential incidentals or a ticket to the gig. we might as well say £1000 or $1800. I REALLY want to check this out and my perfect solution; an 11 am flight from Glasgow to Chicago on Saturday 18th, direct doesn't run before April. Maybe not everything, but Something will have to go - and tix are not even secured. But Hell, until the Pat Metheny Group tour again, what else is there for ageing louche hipsters to indulge themselves with?

Any other Brits with ideas on making it happen?


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 14:46:35 ET
Posted by: Rajah, of course I can be bought

Oh yeah, look punkin, I was thinking, you don't wanna be that close to Donald, think of what happened last time, peak experiences are all well and good but I'm afraid you'd become over-excited, bust out crying, wailing Donald's name and hurling various embroidered articles of clothing up at the poor man, you know how he is around people. You'll be fine in the 3rd Balcony, Row "VV" I'll call you on my cell and hold the phone up at soundcheck.

I want to go to the Indian Casino in the middle of the desert instead. I hear their VIP swag bag includes Morph the Cat Loin Cloth and ceremonial Don Fagen Band head-dress. You'd look awfully cute... then we can play Princess Tandeleo and the Jesuit Explorer.

One last VIP thought. If I'm a VIP, just how many other people could be a VIP at the same time? It stands to reason that we can't ALL be VIPs, it waters the whole damn thing down. I think we need letter suffix designations to prioritize our pre-eminence. VIP-A, VIP-B, VIP-C all the way down to VIP-QQQ.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 14:39:07 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Oy!

"Silly me, I thought the point of buying VIP tickets is to network and hobnob with doctors, lawyers, CEOs, influential people in the entertainment bsiness [sic], etc., you know, make the Rolodex worth some money. Most people here seem to think it's to sit closer to the stage and hear the soundcheck. Oh well."


The REAL question Peter is whether those "IN" crowd people will SHUT THE F*** UP during the concert!!??


Drunks chattering away during Aja, getting up and down for beer and wine constantly, kickfights nearly breaking out, stumbling over me towards the bathroon when Walter approaches the mic - un uh...do I urinate on the Monet classic Gare Saint-Lazare (my favorite painting) at the National Gallery??

However, aural utterances, spasms, whoops, and general FUNN Directly
Related and sync-locked with the concert at the end, between songs, or in time and key during the performaqnces are not only tolerated but HIGHLY encouraged including actual clapping and singing [with kind constrains - if you got a reasonable amount of rhythm and tunefulness]...

***ACHTUNG, BABY*** hob-nobbing, pandering, walking out completely, drunk "call-outs" for Walter or Donald's loins DURING THE PERFORMANCES will be subject to instant confiscation of all liquidable assets and placement into the "Mu Children College Fund."


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 14:37:17 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Gail, Gretchen, others: looking forward to Chicago. Since 1993, the Dandom Digest has run ticket classifieds and Pat contacted me about one of us doing a ticket exchange. Stay tuned. Will list hotel venues from $39 a night to extra posh. I only mentioned Palmer House Hilton and Burnham since they are 1) just a couple of minutes from the venue and 2) very Chicago. Allegro and others are also great. Lotta hotels nearby. Keep in mind that Chicago has steep hotel taxes but you can ride the Orange L and Blue Subway (remember the old A & B trains?) direct from either airport for $2 a head. Those two hotels are two minutes walk from stations on these lines. More later...

jim


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 14:36:33 ET
Posted by: NYB,

Er, uh... Pete if you recall you "predicted" that some obscure Jazz DJ out of NYC was going to have Donald Fagen as a guest on his show or something like that. This "prediction" never panned out, remember? Man, talk about revisionist history...

And do me a favor okay? Don't use whatever "contacts" you have to get a meeting with DF alright? You're gonna make us all look like a bunch of loons when you start talking that motivational gobbledygook to the man.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 14:33:01 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Hi Gang.

Regarding Chicago pre-sales, I am on WXRT's email list and they have already sent the email about pre-sales for this weekend's new ticket sales. Fagen is not among them so looks like no pre-sale--they would have listed it. Someone I work with said they received a pop-up on a local news website about the concert. Clearly I want Donald's shows to sell out but I also know that in general, shows not sponsored by a radio station in Chicago (like 'XRT which is typical for SD), sell slower. I know RLJ was only about 1000 people (so it seemed) because there was no radio promotion due to a following out with 'XRT.

So we'll see. But 95% sure no pre-sale for Chicago.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 14:30:04 ET
Posted by: PQ, NYC

Maroon you sound like those on the Yellow who doubted my predictive powers last week about some news and were quite mortally embarrassed two days later. LOL!


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 14:25:38 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

H Gang is being played everywhere here is another link.....

http://www.kbcoradio.com/main.html

It is listed on their main page as a song that was played inthe last hour.


also here is a list of other stations playing the song with streaming audio .....http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?format=aaa&s=R&sr=Y

enjoy


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 14:25:29 ET
Posted by: What a Maroon,

PQ - Do you really think CEO's and "influential people in the entertainment business" are going to have to shell out $350 to be guided around by a pimply-faced iloveallaccess.com intern? Have fun hobnobbing with those lawyers and doctors. Hopefully, for you, one of them will be a psychiatrist.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 14:23:50 ET
Posted by: NYB,

Little Wild One, check this out...

http://www.banyantrees.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=4e87d68452473083025bbb7ad734db08

Looks like StAl already has the ticket exchange base covered...


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 14:20:00 ET
Posted by: NYB,

That's a good point Gretch.
Rather than going the VIP route, you could always spend the money on more than one show. I personally never understood the fascination with soundchecks. I don't really wanna see the band tune up to be honest. Also, between the pre-show dinner and the other festivities you're looking at maybe a 4 to 5 hour event if you go the VIP route. I'm the nervous type, I could never hang out for that long, I just wanna see the concert and go home and get ready for the next one. So I think I'll be doing exactly what you said, I'll be catching multiple non-VIP shows, and I'm sure I'll be just as happy when it's all said and done.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 14:14:59 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, the booking desk

I agree about the VIP deal...let those who can, do it. I'd rather be in the cheap seats with my so-called friends (whoevaH they are this week). And the pre-party....fffft. We know where that shit goes down.

But, Raj/PQ, I'd kinda like that keychain for my collection. I know you CAN be bought.

Hoops, any interest in setting up a ticket barter for this tour? Seems to me that LOTS of us are going to be clamoring on-line at the same time and if you are buying, it might make sense to buy the max for that show with the hope that SOMEONE here would be interested in swapping for another show.

Just a suggestion. I know I am working the joint trying to help a couple of folks with West coast tix and such...easier if we work together.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 13:51:23 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, rain forest

VIP tix for us, Rajah? (or do you mean just you?!)I don't know....I'd rather spend the $$$ on adding Chicago to the itinerary. Hell, it's Hoops' home town and our friend Toya will be there, I'm sure. C'mon...it's CHI TOWN for God's sake.....

IMHO, VIP's are all the Blue Bookers I've had the pleasure to meet and party with between 2003 and now - hope we can relive it all again!

Hey, Alan and Scotty, have you booked your flights yet?

G


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 13:49:39 ET
Posted by: fezo, deskbound

Any idea when the first single off the new disc is scheduled for general release to radio. I just e'd the music director (who is a huge Steely Dan fan) at the local rock station here and she sounded psyched to hear it and more than a little irked that she hadn't got a copy yet.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 13:43:24 ET
Posted by: Tall Paul, IL

Any Chicago fans hear of pre-sale via WXRT?


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 13:37:55 ET
Posted by: Pam,

Amen to that, Mike F.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 13:35:45 ET
Posted by: Scdalak, Beantown

Damn $350.00 perseat for VIP?? Or at least thats what they are advertising for the Beacon Show. Im better off buying a decent orchastra seat 20 rows back from a ticket agent for about $200/ea... Thats a little much, and I agree with Raj, I would feel kinda "gay" with all my little gift bags and laminants..


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 13:35:13 ET
Posted by: mistressomusic, western mass

I for one am happy that i can afford the $65 ticket!! Unfortunately, I can't swing whatever the VIP will be, but hey, There are plenty of things in life like that....what are you gonna do? I am psyched!!!!!

PS-WB site(she shakes her head) that man is brilliant!


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 13:31:29 ET
Posted by: Rajah, Schmuckitude Central

Thanks for enabling me, T. The thing I don't know if I could handle is me sitting there with my dorky gift bag, ya know my Morph the Cat key chain and dry food bowl, my Gong Sisters t-shirt, brandishing my 5-Star Access laminate like I'm the Chosen One, salivating to the intonations of Donald covering Jelly Roll's, "Dead Man Blues" at soundcheck, looking back and seeing the noses of the poor non-VIP bastards who have to sit 25 or more rows back, no parking no t-shirt no nothin, pressed up against the box office window at 6 PM, I look over and see PQ working the room like a Bedouin Vegas hooker, it runs retrograde to my humble roots, don't let this slick urbane veneer fool you.

But I am pretty shallow so I'm still doing it.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 13:20:02 ET
Posted by: t, Aunt Faye's couch

Btw, maybe it's been mentioned already, but the V.I.P. package is setup by the promoter to make big(ger) bucks, *not* DF's or Steely Dan's management. I'm sure DF get's a little more for letting people view the soundcheck, but the bulk of the money goes to the promoter. So criticism of DF for the ticket price is misplaced.

promoter

One entry found for promoter.
Main Entry: pro·mot·er
Pronunciation: -'mO-t&r
Function: noun
1 : one that promotes; especially : one who assumes the financial responsibilities of a sporting event (as a boxing match) including contracting with the principals, renting the site, and collecting gate receipts


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 12:58:37 ET
Posted by: tones, otherside, notomorrow

And the word of the day is:

"schmuckitude".

Lol!!! Thanks Raj!


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 12:51:00 ET
Posted by: PQ, NYC

Angel, Angel - when you buy VIP tickets you have a dinner with everybody else who did, before the show. It's not a concurrent activity going on at the same time as the concert. You would be amazed at some of the people that show up at these things.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 12:42:44 ET
Posted by: angel,

Speaking of outragous prices and things of that nature.
Anyone check out how much it costs to get a room at Pechenga? $229 for one night. Yikes! Hey "Hubby", you renting out that driveway? :-)


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 12:36:01 ET
Posted by: angel,

Bill: That was a perfect post. What alien took over your body and spoke those words for you? :-)

Sorry PQ, you and I will never meet at a concert because I will be the one hanging out at the back door trying to catch some of the soundcheck and then fawning all over Donald as he sings. Hob knobing with the "in" crowd? Please....I am there for the music, being performed by the artist I definitely want to hear.

PH: Don't worry. It's not easy, but you can do something like a Roseland concert with almost no money. I proved it and have some outstanding memories to cherish.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 12:34:54 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

Did anyone record the XM version of H Gang? I have the Peak one but I'd like to hear the longer version.

Thanks,
K


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 12:23:28 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

I don't see the connection with the Thelonious album cover, except for clutter, is there a cat in there somewhere?

Howard says "unsettled," as to the meter during the verses to H-Gang, I said "unresolved." I may not be able to count to four but I know something funny goin' on in there when I hears it.

Work that room, PQ, you go baby, make your own kind of music.

Don't know what the diff between shelling out heavy dough for a VIP "experience" and traveling around following the tour. Maybe that the VIP thing carries with it a distinct air of, I dunno, slack-jawed schmuckitude and tour gypsies are adventerous and committed maniacs. Hmmm, you CAN of course, be both! This is still America right? Don't answer that.

The XM version of H-Gang is D-Bomb. Who is that manning the guitar, give him a cigar. I know SOH testifies that it's Herington and I'm not knowledgable enough to say it's Krantz and I doubt highly that it's McCracken. So great to hear a snarly macho solo like that with filters and nastiness again. And there is more embedded in those very simple sounding lyrics than first meet the ear. The man invented another new word, who knew what "pinshot" was prior to 1977? "Kickfight" is brilliant, so is "Gong Sisters," "original 5 chord band," "a voice and a dream and a soul on fire," ain't shabby.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 11:44:03 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

Are there any other stations like the peak that offer streaming audio that are dan friendly that any one knows of? Thanks in advance.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 11:39:59 ET
Posted by: EMG,

Everything REALLY Must Go

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/44455


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 09:55:31 ET
Posted by: Mike F, NYC

So glad to hear a New York City show has been added but I do wish someone could tell The Artist how annoying and difficult it is for the serious fans when tickets to shows close together go on sale at the same exact day and time.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 09:37:42 ET
Posted by: ph, this crowd knows every word

Colonel: let's not be hasty! Remember, "H Gang" was stated to be the "most radio friendly"...with Dan that usually that means the lyrics make at least a tad bit of sense to the layman. (examples, Do It Again, Show Biz, Rikki, Deacon, Sisters, Nineteen) The concept behind Morph, however, is much deeper than what we hear in H Gang, so I'm certain we'll be getting into some much more complex lyrics and lyric structure when we have the full scope of Morph The Cat.


I'm not a fan of this VIP thing either. I'll be going alone, maybe I'll get a good seat in the front by chance...heh, I always do at the symphony. And I can buy my own T-Shirt. I'm already going to have to skip lunch for a month to make this trip, I don't need to pay whatever outrage the All Access people are going to charge.



ONLY 49 DAYS UNTIL MORPH IS OFFICIALLY RELEASED!


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 09:16:18 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky

Just sitting here listening to XTC's "Skylarking" (which by the way is wonderful), a venti Starbuck's with a double shot and whipped cream, and my Visa card. I feel compelled to check DF's site every 2.4 minutes to see if Chicago VIP's are on sale. It's a sickness my compadres, but we'll worth the time and monetary sacrifice. BTW, capitalism is a GOOD thing. GO DF, I don't mind. A big suck it up to those who feel slighted by their mighty hero. He's trying to make a buck just like everyone else, and I for one don't mind. It's not like anyone is forcing the "Fan" to but expensive seats. You can still get a decent seat. Face it, the place only holds 3,500 freaks in the first place. Anytime you put 3,500 Dan fans in one place it's a dangerous idea. You know, with the ego, attitudes and whatnot. The place might spontaneously combust.

Tick, tock.

Anyone else going the extra mile to be in the presence of "The Chosen One"?

I really love you all, and i'm just picking on those are are easily flustered in the first place

(Tom) SoulMonkey


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 09:12:38 ET
Posted by: PQ, NYC

So now not only do we have people ascribing posts to me that I didn't make, but now the gilled one is posting under my name LOL! What a blast.

Silly me, I thought the point of buying VIP tickets is to network and hobnob with doctors, lawyers, CEOs, influential people in the entertainment bsiness, etc., you know, make the Rolodex worth some money. Most people here seem to think it's to sit closer to the stage and hear the soundcheck. Oh well.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 08:46:10 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Howard: I agree. The verse has the 2 beat emphaszied in a WASAM/ TIMTM kinda way. makes for a nice changeover...

I'm looking forward to hearing the rest of the outtro,


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 08:35:58 ET
Posted by: Howard,

Two comments:

For those debating ticket prices, VIP packages, getting good seats etc etc: keep in mind you're lucky to have a chance to see DF in concert, unlike folk in Europe and other parts of the world.

We're all agreed on 4/4 for "H gang" (!) In terms of accents, I'd add to what you said Mu: intro/chorus/guitar solo all accent 1, 3 *and* 4. BUT, the verse has a much stronger accent just on the 2 (sustained over the next bar), in a very similar way to "What a Shame about Me". The strong "2" accent in the verses gives an unresolved, hanging kind of feeling - but the change in accents to the chorus resolves this somewhat.

Hutch - Hi, good to hear from you!

Howard


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 08:09:47 ET
Posted by: fezman, boston

hello all, just a heads up in the st.louis area a tribute to steely dan and the doobies is listed on ticketmaster website,for 1-28-06.....go to site type in steely dan and it will pop up....28.00 per ticket


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 08:06:30 ET
Posted by: fezman, boston


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 07:24:56 ET
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

Freaks,

The Cover-Picture of "Morph the Cat"
is a reference to Thelonious Monk "Undergroud".

http://www.waitingforlouise.de/cover/Cover-Monk-Underground.jpg


you can trust me.

the Fittest


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 03:54:07 ET
Posted by: Colonel Hall, London

Just downloaded H-Gang from XM Radio. It's about a minute longer than the Peak version, so I guess there are album and single cuts.
From the first note, it's classic Steely Dan sound, very similar to Haiitian Divorce. But let's face it kids, you can't compare their recent output with anything up to 'Gaucho'. Lyrically, this is lame by comparrison.
Having got that off my chest, I have to say that it's still light years ahead of anything else I've heard in the last quarter of a century.
Wish I had the money for a trip stateside, but will have to pass this time. Should be amazing. I got to see them in a similar size venue, when they played Hammersmith during 2VN tour. Easily the best concert I've ever attended, although the Rainbow in the early seventies is most probably second. I caught 2VN at Mountain View and EMG at Santa Barbara, great open air atmosphere and certainly memorable gigs. Hopefully, there will be some similar venues this Summer.
My wish is some neat covers of fifties songs such as 'Ruby Baby' and some of the stuff from the new York revue album.
Sorry to be a little down on the recent stuff, but everyone's gotta have an opinion. I'll still be scouring the internet for pre-release snippets though.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 03:01:19 ET
Posted by: Gaelic Lad, Blarney

Found this interesting link on the Donald's surname

http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/fagen-family-crest.htm

nice image-and family motto


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 02:29:31 ET
Posted by: bellona, Seattle

Does anyone know if there will be anymore dates added to Donald's solo tour?


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 00:20:06 ET
Posted by: X Gang, the real world

And so college students work harder than Boomers/GenXers putting kids through college and raising families?
I don't know too many college kids who work themselves to death, but I know plenty of guys who have had heart attacks keeping it all together and wanting to enjoy some musical splendor too. So if someone makes jack they aren't entitled to a "scholarship" or more specifically some other form of "help"?

I'm sorry, but that view is it's own form of arrogance.

The main point was that none of this should be directed at Donald or Walter and should certainly not focus on a divide between the two.


Date: Wed, January 18, 2006, 00:09:52 ET
Posted by: Rajah, n-dimension

Peter you are priceless...50 gets me wha? Gift bag widda ...who?

For the nasty ones, keel-haul them Jim, h-gong them.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 23:50:46 ET
Posted by: hoops ,

Briefly, I'm not sure what to think of this special VIP program and so it's kinda wait and see. I recall there were some glitches when sd.com had the pre-sale but they were responsive even to that when things didn't work for reasons beyond sd.com On the one hand, the VIP thing might put the squeeze on scalpers and on the other hand, I know I was able to get single tickets in the first few rows, in the center without VIP payments. Contrary to what some of you say, there are fans here--college students, some just out of work fans, or for other reasons people who can't afford tickets. In the past, some of us here at the Dandom Digest have sometimes helped these people get tickets with "scholarships." I hope we can do this again. Quietly, I know Walter Becker was appreciative of this. So I have a wait and see attitude about this VIP business.

To the person I mentioned who equalled several. I found some of what you said to be thought provoking and worth considering. Other parts I found insulting and arrogant.

I'm exceited at the prospect of Donald shows and hope to afford as many as possible. I hope we get to hear some tunes we normally don't get to hear. That's what excites me most. And I hope I can afford to get the best possible seats to as many shows as I can.

Until about 7:00 pm I thought the posts were controversial but expressed legit viewpoints. I think the past couple of hours was pretty nasty and disrespectful to us.

jim


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 23:41:31 ET
Posted by: Mona getting ready to jump from her, Chelsea highrise penthouse

1. Will we meet Donald Fagen?

No meet and greet is offered at this time.


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2. What time does the 5 Star package start? What time do I need to arrive for soundcheck?

The 5 Star Package usually starts around 4:00pm. This is an approximate time to help you plan your day. Approximately 5 days before the show, we will send you an E-mail itinerary with more explicit details including what time to arrive, where to meet your I Love All Access guide, etc.


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3. What time can I pick up my 4 Star package(s)?

4 Star packages will be available from 6pm on the evening of the show (time is subject to change) at the specially marked I Love All Access will-call window at the box office.

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4. What do I get with my 5 Star Package?

A guaranteed ticket in a premium location, VIP parking (where available), a 5 Star laminate, access to soundcheck, a pre-show party, and an exclusive gift bag.

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5. What do I get with my 4 Star package?

A guaranteed ticket in a premium location and an exclusive gift.

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6.Can we bring a camera to the soundcheck and pre-show party?

No, cameras are not allowed.


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7. My question is not here. How can I reach you?

E-mail us at info@iloveallaccess.com, call us at 888 I LUV AXS (888 458 8297) toll-free from the U.S., Canada and Mexico, or 00-800 I LUV AXS 1 (00-800 458 82971) toll-free from the UK, Germany, Ireland, the Netherlands, Spain and Switzerland.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 23:24:01 ET
Posted by: Go NYB!, good shit, buddy!

still laughin' at that post!


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 23:06:22 ET
Posted by: ph, slammin in a hinktown

Am I the only who thinks that H Gang would be the PERFECT song to kick off the DF solo concerts with?
Am I right or what?

According to my media player, I've listened to the H Gang file 57 times
!!!!!!!!!


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 22:59:43 ET
Posted by: Eve, In the know

lame comeback.
I know you can do it better, Peg.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 22:57:58 ET
Posted by: They took it down, NYC

DF funnin us!


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 22:51:32 ET
Posted by: WTF,

Hey, $2 per ticket and for a 12AM show!


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 22:44:28 ET
Posted by: Sly, Montreal, Quebec

More infos about the VIP package:

Enjoy an evening VIP style with Donald Fagen, one of music's most critically acclaimed musicians. Start your 5 Star package experience with VIP parking*. Attend Donald's soundcheck - see how he puts it all together. Receive an exclusive gift bag, and attend an exclusive catered pre-show party. Then head out to your guaranteed premium seat to thrill to the legend who brought you such songs as "I.G.Y.," "Black Cow," "Century's End," "The Nightfly," "Pretzel Logic" and so many more. Can't buy a thrill? Sure you can!

Each 5 Star package includes:


A ticket in the first 10 (ten) rows!**
5 Star laminate
Soundcheck
Exclusive gift bag
Pre-show party
VIP parking*


5 Star Package Price: 2.00 [Prices are in U.S. dollars]


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 22:42:48 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Hey,

To:

The Fans Here = back at you = Whoa! = You! = Kaching! = YOU needs to identify = Kaching = Hoops knows who : Could you stop having conversations with yourself???? If you really wanted to end all this you would buy all those bitching V.I.P. tickets. You can afford it.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 22:40:06 ET
Posted by: Sly, Montreal, Quebec

More infos about the shows with VIP packages.

March 01, 2006
New Brunswick, NJ
BUY NOW
BUY NOW
5 Star

State Theatre

March 03, 2006
Westbury, NY
Coming Soon

North Fork Music Theatre at Westbury

March 07, 2006
New York, NY
Coming Soon

Beacon Theater

March 09, 2006
Boston, MA
Coming soon
Opera House

March 18, 2006
Chicago, IL
Coming Soon

Chicago Theatre

March 27, 2006
Los Angeles, CA
Coming Soon

The Wiltern LG


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 22:35:27 ET
Posted by: Sly, Montreal, Quebec


Now the VIP ticket packages seems to be accessible.

On Donald Fagen's site you go through this direction.

http://www.iloveallaccess.com/login_df.html

You will find these infos:

Each 5 Star package includes:
A ticket in the first 10 (ten) rows!**
5 Star laminate
Soundcheck
Exclusive gift bag
Pre-show party
VIP parking*

Each 4 Star package includes:
A ticket in the first 20 (twenty) rows!*
An exclusive gift!

*Where available
**Exact seat location available day of show only

You will be required to sign a waiver and release of liability.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 22:33:02 ET
Posted by: Eve, The Garden

Adam, so pithy!

web site misfits, and then there are complete misfits who hide behind all manor of cyber device and cement.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 22:26:49 ET
Posted by: Kaching!, LA

Bet you all your card can handle!


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 22:25:41 ET
Posted by: YOU needs to identify, Bosstown

Talk about Anon!

It seems that the original Everything YOU should identify itself!

Then crawl into a hospital bed.

Let's simply drop the Walter vs Donald or Donald vs Walter, whichever you prefer.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 22:20:24 ET
Posted by: Kaching!, LA

No debt here!
Kaching!


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 22:15:47 ET
Posted by: Adam Anon, Capital City

What's in your wallet? Kaching just run up those credit cards gang Kaching Kaching it's only money Kaching it's only jive Kaching. Be the very first ones on your block with 20 row seats kaching Kaching!
Never mind you over drawn Kaching Kaching lemme have on of those tired tour shirts as well Kaching.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 21:50:35 ET
Posted by: YOU!, NYC

Good questions from Whoa!

However, YOU, don't Donald and Walter share the same mangement company? Last I knew, it is Azoff Management for both. If true, then what does that do to your theory?

Please, surely you can enlighten us on a myriad of topics here.

H Gang still rocks. YOU seem to have an agenda.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 21:45:10 ET
Posted by: Whoa!, LA

Who is behind all of the divisive posts ?

Someone is trying to turn everything into a Donald vs Walter scenario. What the hell is that?

Is there something we don't know? Is it someone in particular in the mix pursuing a divide and conquer tactic here?

Donald already publicly said that after his tour comes a Steely Dan tour, right?

Hoops, you should shut down the site for a 48 hour cooling off period.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 21:35:40 ET
Posted by: back at YOU, NYC

Yes, and steelydan.com's system manipulated various people to no end in the process. Who ran that system anyway?

Is it the case that people who come on the web sites are the real fans anyway? There are big fans all over the globe who choose not to bother with the Steely Dan web scene. YOU apparently are obsessed, or somehow emotionally dependant on the steelydan site.
Actually, the web site did very little for sales for the band. It was an inside game. Virtually no commercial impact.

So, the free market doesn't determine? - it's supposed to be the steelydan web site Wizard of Oz's little sycophantic coterie that get's the breaks?

I suppose that Walter and Donald should abandon the SACDs and the DVDAs because only the evil rich people can afford those. No, more A list up and comer musicians either. Carlock must go! He had the audacity to play with the sold out likes of Sting! We could go on and on with your sophist logic.

As other posts have noted, this is a for profit corporation and always has been, and YOU know that Walter has enjoyed the money train right next to Donald all the way.

Your post is sick, bitter and disgusting. Surely, the post would offend Walter if he sees it as much as it would offend Donald.

Let's talk about Everything YOU did

Should we put EVERYTHING in context?



Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 21:34:07 ET
Posted by: The fans here, are

self absorbed children who aren't worth Steely Dan's time. Steely Dan means Walter and Donald.

If you think that just because your heart goes pitter patter evertime you look at the guestbook it makes you an extra special fan then you really need professional help.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 20:56:44 ET
Posted by: Mack,

Mu - I think it's more like 19 bucks, but who's countin'?

I MUST have good seats and would rather give it to Donald than to a scalper!!!!


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 20:52:51 ET
Posted by: Hutch, RVA

Bill - Very well said sir.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 20:50:09 ET
Posted by: PissAndMoanSecurityJoan,

I thought this was about the music and supporting our favorite artists regardless of the price?? If you don't want to shell out the money, fine, sit the fuck at home and spend it on a couple of weeks of takeout and porn while you play with yourself rather than seeing Don and/or Walt play what has been the soundtrack to the past 0-30 years of whatever your present life has now become. I don't give a shit if I have to stand in the parking lot in a natural disaster to hear it, somewhere and somehow i'll be there, and every diehard here (like Raj and Hoops to name a few) would do they same. Cost for Steely Dan related things is a moot point; who cares what it costs and whether or not your willing to spend it.
Sorry for the rant, I think it's my time of month.
Luke


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 20:49:45 ET
Posted by: Cough up the bucks, ya' cheap bastids

They're not running a charity. They're trying to make a profit. Do you want a real backup band or not?


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 20:47:58 ET
Posted by: Hutch, RVA

Big Fan - Here's something I posted back on Christmas Eve:



A Donald Fagen solo tour. I never thought I'd see it happen. This is truly fantastic news!

Wonder what the set lists will be like... so many great songs. I know I'd be perfectly satisfied to just hear the entire Nightfly album and then all of Kama. That's not too much to ask is it? And, of course, by the time I see the show I'm gonna want to hear all of Morph as well.
Since that probably won't happen how about an opening instrumental number by the band (like the last SD tour) and then DF strolls on stage, sits down at the Rhoads and they bounce right into New Frontier and the place goes crazy!

Personally if the rest went like this I'd be delighted:

The Nightfly (of course)
Green Flower Street
Springtime
Snowbound
Century's End
Dr Wu
Ruby Baby
Walk Between the Raindrops
Pretzel Logic



Trans Island Skyway
Tomorrow's Girls
Countermoon
Maxine
Here at the Western World
The Second Arrangement (Sorry, I couldn't resist)
True Companion
Florida Room
King of the World
On the Dunes

The Goodbye Look
I.G.Y.

"Good night everybody, and drive safely"!!

Of course Morph tunes will be in there too.

Man, I can't WAIT to hear this new album.








Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 20:38:51 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

let's face it. We can all buy a REAL work of art on March 7th...for around just 13 bucks. How many Van Gogh prints (not dogs playing poker) can you get for that? I thought so.

Musicians make their $ today on internet sales and tours. It's going to be a little more than say the Norah Jones tour in small theatres a few years ago...but there was a mina quartert + a guest...minimal stage effects. I truly hope they make a DVD of the Beacon concert.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 20:29:32 ET
Posted by: Everything YOU Did,

When Steelydan.com used the pre-sale password, it was a disaster. Sure, you were able to get seats, but it had nothing to do with getting primo seats. TicketBastard still held back a lot of the good seats for the regular on sale date (or, more like, for the scalpers and corporations who usually end up with them). I know of many people who would have scored better seats if they had waited and bought them after the pre-sale. It wasn't the band's fault, but what's the point?

At least with this V.I.P. thing, you are guaranteed seats in the first 10 or 20 rows, plus whatever else they throw in. A soundcheck would be worth the extra $$ itself!

How many fans here have had the opportunity to sit in the first ten rows of a Steely Dan concert? Probably not many. It is virtually impossible to get these kinds of seats without going through a scalper, and they will surely set you back at least as much if not more than the V.I.P. tickets will cost. And a soundcheck? Ha!

Hey, if I have to fork over a few extra bucks to get guaranteed great seats, sit in on a soundcheck and get a goodie bag, I'm all for it. And, afterall, it's the American way! Money dictates whether you are in the nosebleeds or the box seats, or whether you sit in coach or first class. Why should this be any different? The bottom line is that we now have the OPPORTUNITY to get these seats!

True Dan Fan and Apparently No V.I.P. sound like sour grapes to me.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 20:03:23 ET
Posted by: PQ, NYC

Hey Bill you're actually making sense...did you get kicked in the head by a mule this afternoon or something?


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 20:00:07 ET
Posted by: NYB,

I think Bob is right. These are smaller, more intimate venues. Now considering all the costs involved, like transportation, housing, salaries, meals, insurance, and whatever, it's gotta cost quite a bit to produce a show these days. I have no problem with the V.I.P. thing. In the end they're going to see the same show I am, even if they are 10 or 15 feet closer to it than me, so what? If you have the money to burn why not? In the end the extra money makes it possible for the tour to continue and for the players to make a living from it.

But you know what's bothering me? NOBODY, I mean NOBODY could've predicted that Donald Fagen would go out on his own and do a tour. NOBODY could've predicted this, and yet here some of us are bitching about the cost of a ticket. Now how messed up is that? I don't care if the general admission tickets are $250 bucks a piece, I'm gonna be there because this is a once-in-a-lifetime event and it's not every day that you get to see Donald Fagen live in such an intimate surrounding. My last TV set cost me $2200 bucks, and half the shit on it is just that; shit! I can't spend a fraction of that on a ticket to a quality show with a quality artist? You bet I can, and I will, because I believe in supporting artists who deserve to be supported. God knows there's plenty of people out there laying down the same money to see the Worldwide Wresting Federation or XTina, right? So quit bitchin' and buy your ticket. You'll be glad you did in the end, I gaurantee it.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 19:39:11 ET
Posted by: gypsyqueeninfairytale, usa

Sheryl Crow bores me to tears.
But this chick is THE BOMB!!!
http://www.nikkacosta.com


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 19:31:58 ET
Posted by: PQ, NYC

I don't think Fagen's selling out at all. If a VIP tic for Sheryl Crow is $365, one for Fagen isn't going to be any more than that. She's a way bigger star than he is. You're going to spend $100 on a regular seat anyway.

These shows are 45 days away. If you really want the seats you need $265 more dollars. 265 divided by 45 days is 6 bucks a day. If you can't figure out how to attract 6 bucks a day more into your life for something you're fanatical about and really, really desire badly then you should probably consult a neurologist.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 19:25:04 ET
Posted by: bob, ca

"By the way, am I the only one who thinks the words to H-Gang are a bit lame"?

Yes


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 19:17:11 ET
Posted by: Bob,

Just a thought. Maybe the only way to make the economics of having a small venue tour work with a high-price backing band is to have VIP events, etc.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 19:11:00 ET
Posted by: Apparently No V.I.P.,

I remember when we were all V.I.P.s Steelydan.com would send us a pre-sale password.

Now Fagen says if we are V.I.P.s only if we hand over the money. So much for integrity. Now being a true Steely Dan fan means having a lot of money.

I can't decide if Fagen and his management are greedy, clueless or both.

Fagen's probably clueless on some of this but it's his fault for letting it happen. I wouldn't be surprised if Walter Becker balked on milking the fans. Could be why they split sites. Maybe Donald sold out and Walter didn't.

I will always love what Steely Dan has given us, but the Morph the Cat tour will be remembered as the turning point where Fagen sold out. Maybe Fagen can go on tour with the Eagles. Turn it up! The neigbors are listening.

By the way, am I the only one who thinks the words to H-Gang are a bit lame?


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 18:48:25 ET
Posted by: True Dan Fan,

This VIP stuff is Fagen's way of fleecing other's pockets.

The Love All Access site says "To ensure that you, the true fan, have access to great seats without having to deal with unofficial ticket sources. "

They should say, "Are you a rich fan? Well step right up!"

I bet the goody bag makers get $$$$ for promoting whatever products are thrown in. I got one at a tennis event and they gave us promotional teflon-coated socks, t-shirt, Certs and a candy bar.

Real Dan fans know the true fan already was doing this for years at StAl's ticket board and the like. Paying extra only makes some people rich at the true fans' expense.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 18:44:36 ET
Posted by: no way is right, @rightstuff

No way is so right...about df..


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 18:43:50 ET
Posted by: Rajah, What He Do

I wouldn't think he'd be comfy at a soundcheck with however many dozens or more of drooling Don-philes creating havoc, yelling out for My Old School, Gretchen throwing the Aja tea cozy she's knitting for his package, the guy with the Happy Birthday Cathy Mueller sign. Not happenin'. Donald does not hang out after a show, when Stevee and I and a friend crashed backstage after showing our EMG laminates from the pre-party we also crashed - yes, this sophomoric behavior is engaged in by middle-aged men, Herington and Baker were around saying hi but the Two had long-since sped away in their Jacuzzi-Limo. At least I like to imagine it was a Jacuzzi-Limo packed with chicks and all the Phentermine you could snort. But we did have a beer - woo-hoo!

Get this, Rick Springfield - yes, the thing that won't go away Rick Springfield is playing the Wiltern soon. Standing on the lower level (which used to have fixed seats before Dylan re-opened the remodled theatre in 2002) will set you back $220.00 American. Extrapolating from that model would put a Donald Fagen Band VIP spot at about, oh, $500.00 outta do it.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 18:28:34 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Stars go to 11

NYB - LOL!! You forgot to mention that Donald gives you a parting gift too. A box of tapes with unfinished songs that he liked and Walter didn't. A second box of songs that Walter liked and he didn't. And a third box of songs with stuff they were going to put on the box set that he recently found in a shoebox in the back of Libby's closet.

Big Fan - I'll propbably see you at the Opera House on Saturday!

Mark in Boston


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 18:23:24 ET
Posted by: angel, "I had a little birdie friend"

Regarding Walter Becker's site. Is that bird the one from Things I Miss the Most? :-)


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 18:13:08 ET
Posted by: No Way, You'll see

No way in a million years will Donald Fagen be at a "meet and greet" after these shows. I don't care how much these VIP seats are going for. It ain't going to happen!


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 18:11:34 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, I haven't posted this often since summer of '03



A search at ticketbastard for 'Fagen' returned 2 results -

Donald Fagen - dates scheduled nationally

Becker & Fagen - No dates scheduled


Here's hoping.....


Peace, Love & Dan,
KC


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 18:11:02 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Damn NYB, why do you have to go tell me that when I'm a couple bucks short? Think you could spot me a few mil? I'll pay you back, I swear.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 18:10:13 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

YGK: No. As described in way too obessively excruciating detail in previous posts, H-Gang is 4/4 with drum whacks on the "2" and "4" ahd the bass and "H" chord emphasizing the "1" and "3" beats respectively in the intro and chorus...gives it a lot of swing against the backbeat


Here Comes the H-Gang
1..................2....3.......4
Beats in measure

There are five Notes in the Big Hook

The first two 1/8 notes(Here, Comes) and the last three (the, H, Gang) 1/4 notes

Hook repeated for call& response then the next line of chorus...

&*$%$*#$$% I've got a Bay Area meeting and I miss the West Coast gigs by a week **$%$#*!


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 18:05:08 ET
Posted by: NYB, the golden circle

Hey and let's not forget the 10 STAR tickets...
Where you get to hang out and party with Donald and the crew after the show, then you get to ride back to Donald's pad in the limo where Libby will be waiting for you with warm milk and cookies and Donald will read you a bedtime story until you drift off to sleep. THEN, apon awakening Donald will run down to the corner store and get you your favorite newspaper, a bagel with whatever you want on it, and the Starbucks coffee of your choice. AFTER THAT, the limo will take you to Donald's personal attorney where Donald and Libby will officially adopt you and cut you in as the beneficiary for half of thier estate (hey half has to go to Ezra y'know...). AND AFTER ALL OF THAT, Donald and Libby will drive you to the airport, give you thier personal cell phone numbers, and deposit the keys to thier Hawaiian estate right into your hot little hand along with a couple of Visa cards (you know the kind with no spending limit?) and tell you to "Go ahead and use the estate anytime you want to. The Ferrari in the garage has a full of gas so don't worry about that either". They will then give you a big hug and tell you that they've never met anyone like you in thier lives and cry as you board the airplane!

P.S.) These tickets are currently up on EBAY. The current bid is $100,000,350,625,987 dollars. Please feel free to bid as often as you like!

Thank You,
NYB


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 17:56:06 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, Up Nort' dere hey yah


Big Fan - I'd have to check my archives but I'm pretty certain that Trans-Island Skyway was played back in 93 or 94, not frequently however. I'm with you on hearing Snowbound and Ruby Baby. I'd love to hear Springtime and Florida Room, I think both of those would really rock the house and Walk Between the Raindrops from Nightfly. I think it'd be kinda cool to hear a couple of old school covers ala Limbo Jazz from the Piano Jazz gig. Ultimately I'll just be happy to get a ticket and hear whatevah he wants to play!

Hoops, you gonna be in line at the Chicago Theater Saturday morn?


KC



Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 17:30:52 ET
Posted by: All Access?,

Has anyone ever used iloveallaccess.com? From what I've read, people have been very happy with them. There are generally two tiers of service, 4 star and 5 star. All packages include premium seats (first 20 rows or better) and usually a t-shirt and/or pre-show party. Some packages also include soundchecks (sounds like Fagen will include this) and sometimes meet and greets (can't see Fagen doing this). It also looks like they only do select dates of a tour.

Here are some of the prices I've found:
Sheryl Crowe: $125 4 star and $225 5 star
Velvet Revolver: $250 5 star
The Eagles: $365 5 star
Kiss: $600 - $1,000 (yikes!)

I wonder if all of the "good" seats will be taken by ILAA or if some of these seats will still be available through ticketmaster

anyone? anyone?


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 16:47:13 ET
Posted by: Sly, Montreal, Quebec

BTW, under "News" at the Steely dan website, you'll find this mention:

NOW In advance of sundry solo endeavors, both Walter and Donald go eponymously online.

:: walterbecker.com

:: donaldfagen.com
= = = = =

And, for myself, I'll be at the Centre national des arts in Ottawa. Two hours drive from home, very nice Music Center nearby the House of Commons and the Lord Elgin Hotel. Maybe Donald will stay at this nice hotel!

It will be a reward for myself: during my birthday (August 14th) in 2003, I was in Toronto... and the big blackout came three hours before the show...


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 16:41:09 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

1 - 2 - 3 - 4. OK, I think I got it. I was absent from school the day they covered 4, for years I stopped at 3.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 16:14:19 ET
Posted by: YGK, nyc

Chris: the 'debate' went all the way back to the Title track of 2vN - where numerous posters were discussing the Meter.

Not having heard the tune, and assuming they could count ( ;-0 ), I - reflecting upon the "Meter Days" here - chimed in about 6/8.

Knowing Don's writing style, I must say that he uses the 3 springly.

So, Mu, was that you? and if so, don't they teach you how to count in Texas?

ygk


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 15:53:23 ET
Posted by: Chris Con't, Nh

I mean, shit, snare on 2 and 4 and everything. How in the world could you count to 3?


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 15:51:54 ET
Posted by: Chris, NH

Did someone say H Gang was in 3/4? And then have a debate about whether its 3/4 or 6/8? Dude, that's straight 4.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 15:44:17 ET
Posted by: Ahmed the Rug Man,

Has to be his place Uptown, that parkay floor, so Manhattan. Check out dat crazy old thread-bare rug under DF's feet, that thing's old enough to still have all the pot droppings from the 70s. He needs to lace up that shoe and take a trip to the Pottery Barn stat.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 15:36:59 ET
Posted by: Groove On It, Library

Groove on Walter quoting Herman Hesse left and right in that letter.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 15:24:14 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, Going home soon

Here's the cover from Wikpedia so it's not like it's CIA material if they have it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Donald_Fagen_-_Morph_the_Cat.jpg

You get a pretty good feel for who's in the band:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morph_the_Cat


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 15:13:21 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

You've seen the cover to MTC that's been floating around? Nice pic, lots of stuff going on. Looks like maybe his study in the Upper East Side pad, looks like one of those grey NYC days going on out the window. He's got tons of personal stuff covering that art deco desk with the very old chair, it looks like it's from the 20s. Lots of pens and things, and I note with interest that half-bubble magnifying thingy on the desk, the sign of a certain age if there ever was one. Little boxes and other momentos are seen, each probably with a little story of how he came to have it. Reminds me of the McCartney song, "Junk," a sentimental jamboree. Funny the little knick-knacks n things we carry through to Don's age, paperweights, little statues of the Empire State Bldg., picture frames. He stares down at the floor, not the most cheerful pose, he's deep in thought. Maybe about the stenciled title that's on the wall behind him. The handwriting on the wall, indeed.

So this is what I get from the receptors in my Turban: Donald is the Cat, a common jazz age name for a player, musician that is, he is morphing into his silver years, whatever, he's taking stock, he knows he's changing and he's thinking about the end of things. He lost his mom, he's getting older.

My God, now I'm depressed, where's my 500 milligrams of Chronax?


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 15:07:18 ET
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

You're welcome


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 14:59:27 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

Fittest you are 24 hours late to the party, but thanks for commin!


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 14:55:43 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

Yeah....Becker updated his site as of yesterday. Looks like a lot of stuff upcoming!!!


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 14:53:57 ET
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

Well all right! Looks like we've found each other, you and I, everloyal fan and unworthy singer/songwriter/21st century composeur, found our new place to meet and hang out on the world wide web, found what may eventually become a venue for there to be commerce between us once more.


I find myself in a big hairy hurry to get on with it, get things started, get them finished, get them off my desk, get on to the next thing — but, until I take delivery on the 238 rolls of custom formulated 2 inch magnetic recording tape that is being fabricated for me by Veranarawatana Ltd. of Chang Mai, Thailand, I find myself more or less sitting on my hands. Mind you I'm not complaining — this tape will be superfine, ultradank and most excellent for my purposes, coming as it does from the premier source in the particular part of the world that has the absolute perfect climatic conditions for the manufacture of magnetic recording tape — I mean, you will not believe the bloom my bass will have on this stuff, the dimensionality, the pitchiness, pace, and rhythm — the coercivity, the slew rate on this batch will be unbelievable. Also, Mr. Batwaan puts in each and every box "une petite cadeau pour moi"...

In the meantime, I want to share with you some of the other projects I have been working on these last couple of years. Some of my research has taken me a bit off the beaten path and not all of it will be of interest to everyone or perhaps anyone — I certainly realize that, I'm not drunk and I'm not crazy — but rest assured that all the diverse avenues I have been exploring are intrinsically related to my overall artistic and philosophical goals concerning musicmaking, communication, self-expression, personal growth, financial wellbeing, spiritual practice and fitness, intellectual stimulation and so on — in other words I want to give back to my fans some of what they've given me in the course of my life's journey, although I've already spent about 95% of the money so I can't very well give any of that back — I'm sure you understand.

In any case, I want to assure you that everything that will be presented is totally relevant to music I have written and which I am going to record immediately, once the tape gets here. It shouldn't be too much longer in coming now — and if it is, something has gone very very wrong and this page will likely become an offshore gambling site or some such thing. But, unless and until this becomes the case, I want to urge you to hang in there with me and enjoy the ride. Also — this is very important — I strongly suggest that you EXPLORE EVERY THREAD, FOLLOW ALL INSTRUCTIONS AS CLOSELY AS IS POSSIBLE FOR YOU IN YOUR CURRENT LEVEL OF ATTAINMENT AND LIFE-SITUATION, STAY CURRENT WITH THE WORK, RESPECT THE PROCESS, AND KNOW THAT THE PAYOFF IS ONGOING AND CUMULATIVE AS WELL.

That is to say, all that will soon be offered herein will not only enhance the experience of the finished product — yours and mine — but will serve to expand our awareness of the n-dimensional universe of possibility and prosperity which is our birthright and our legacy. It is no exaggeration to say that many questions which may have arisen during our lives will be illuminated and informed by the work we do together in the next couple of months. Questions from all realms of thought and experience — "why am I the way I am?" "what did I look like before I was born?" "should I buy another stratocaster?" "what are dotted notes?" "whose idea was this Johnny Damon deal?" — all sorts of things really, you will be amazed! So hang in there and we'll all cross the Finish Line together, I promise.

For those who wish to take the journey — who want to get in on what is most assuredly a "damn good thing" — sign up below and receive additional information and exclusive heads-up type of material via email thru the WB NEWSLETTER "for madmen only"

Walter Becker
New York
January 2006




PS: You have already "got some things" but you may also
"need some things" ...


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 14:51:37 ET
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

WAKE UP, FELLOWS,
and check this new shit out
at wb.com

PS. Jah no dead


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 14:46:05 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, At work - it's 80 F heat is messed up

Boston Opera house seats about 2500 - that's all. We will all be fighting for seats.

Is it too soon to start a discussion on setlists - always one of my favorite things about the concerts? With the new CD and two other albums of solo songs, DF has no shortage of material. Plus the comment that he may play some of his favorite SD songs - well it's hard to predict. I started thinking today and right away I went back to see what he/they have played live before.

From the 93/94 tours I.G.Y and Green Flower Street from The Nightfly and Tomorrow's Girls, Teahouse on the Tracks and Countermoon from Kami were played. At the NYR&SR Green Flower Street and two Chain Lightning and Pretzel logic - it will be interesting to see what Donald considers his favorite SD songs.

Besides those he's already played live I'd really like to hear Trans Island Skyway - although it's a long song and Snowbound. How about The Goodbye Look? Maxine and Ruby Baby seem naturals - short - up tempo. Naturally there will 3 or 4 songs from the new one. H-Gang for sure since it's the single.

Jane Lightning - are you lurking ? We need to hook up.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 14:22:43 ET
Posted by: hoops , just passin' through quick

Hey gang.

The Chicago show doesn't appear to be sponsored by WXRT meaning that it is unlikely this will be sponsored in the media. What does that mean? Probably no XRT pre-sale before Saturday and probably less media attention and better chances at the tickets. As someone pointed out, there are fewer tickets than I previously stated, around 3500. I just remember that for Pat Metheny and Van Morrison, I tried like crazy and couldn't get tickets when they went on sale. I went day of the Van show and begged at the ticket window all afternoon and finally got one at about 6 PM. Sadly, a couple who drove from southen Indiana with the same plan, waited all afternoon, got no ticket and went home not seeing the show. So be careful about making travel plans.

I guess this VIP thing throws out the strategy of purchasing a single ticket to get in the front rows.

Gotta run.

jim


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 13:59:23 ET
Posted by: fife, baltimore, eh

Just a heads up, Ottawa is in Ontario, not Quebec! Mind you if you jump in the Ottawa river and swim to the other side your in Quebec but it is suggested that you take one of the many bridges.
I would have loved to seen Donald in my hometown, Woody and Bratfille you'll have to enjoy it for me, but NYC and Washington I am bound.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 13:50:31 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

It will be sad not having Cornelius Bumpus in his usual Tenor Sax Anchor spot at Stage right for the first time since Fagen started touring with NY Rock and Soul Review in 1993. He Will be missed..


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 13:48:31 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Well, shoot, that's what I paid in 00 and 03 at Universal, the Wiltern is one classy house here in LA, these tickets may require a second mortgage.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 13:46:45 ET
Posted by: Nancy,

C'mon! I know there is no charity by that name. I wanted to know if he was serious they were just pocketing the money. It says Where True Fans Get Tickets. If that's what they think, they can fuck themselves.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 13:37:59 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

Here is link to opera house in Boston, Typical small venue, Orchastra and Balcony seating..The way I look at it, if you want to play, you gots to pay!!! Its gonna be $150 a tix for VIP but comeon, what a treat, this may be the last time he ever tours...

http://www.broadwayinboston.com/html/theatres/operahouse/


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 13:34:58 ET
Posted by: mistressomusic,

Excited about the tour! I wouldn't worry yet about the VIP packages. I have bought great seats when other bands (YES) has had these "very important person" (my a$$!)packages. Usually it only means that if you shell out the $150 bucks, you are guaranteed to get a ticket in the first 10 rows etc. Can't wait for the Opera House (boston)
Anyone know the capacity?

Haven't heard the new single yet....=(


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 13:29:31 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Donald Fagen Band? I'm guessing Carlock, Washington, Jeff Young (& some Youngsters?), Herington, Weiskopf, a trumpet player and Donald. Maybe one back up vocalist.

VIP package eh? Let's see, can I balance my desire to hear DF's soundcheck with a general aversion to the bourgeois capitalistic decandence the VIP section surely represents?

Oh screw it, bring it on.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 13:23:14 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

Oh yea Nancy he's really serious..


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 13:12:42 ET
Posted by: Nancy,

Are you serious or are you just joking?


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 12:51:50 ET
Posted by: Bob,

Keith Carlock said in his new newsletter mailed last night that he will be on the tour.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 12:39:32 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

Anyone know who will be in the band with DF? I am assuming most of the regulars, but dont envision as large an ensemble as EMG tour..I would be shocked if he dragged 3 background singers with him. The size of the band can and will definitely effect the fullness of the music. More the merrier is what I say.. Comments, Opinions?


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 12:32:49 ET
Posted by: Bob Geldoff, Shopping is a bitch!

Nancy- Yes, all of the money from the VIP seating goes right to the "Donald Fagen/Libby Titus charity for themselves fund".


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 12:27:57 ET
Posted by: Nancy Sheng, Oregon

Regarding the V.I.P. Package. Will this be the only way to get tickets for the first 20 rows? Will the money be going to charity? Any idea on prices? Will these go on sale before Ticketmaster? Looking forward to the shows but disappointed in the hitches.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 11:24:58 ET
Posted by: dunk,

One can dream !!!


Donald Fagen Instant Live 06
http://www.instantlive.com/about.html


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 11:20:30 ET
Posted by: ph,

i've had the morph album cover as my background for the last few days, and although i think the photography is spectacular, i really am not digging the title caption. i like the font, but they need to do something different layout-wise before its released. the caption just doesn't fit. it doesn't set well with my graphic artist persona. it would be better if it looked like it was part of the photograph, instead of just pasted on top... maybe like printed on the floor boards or something?
i don't know. i just don't like it.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 11:13:00 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

Big Fan,

I dont think us regular fans will be privy to decent seats, I go through a private agent everytime they came to Great Woods to get the best seats. Obvioulsy pay through the nose for them, but hey its a nice treat. I feel very strongly this will be the case with the Opera House..


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 11:04:58 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, At work

I just called the Opera House in Boston - they refered me to this link. In theory tickets will be availible through Ticketmaster at 10 Saturday (although it's not listed yet), but I may make the 2 hour drive up to get tickets in person at the Box Office, just in case.


http://www.teapartyconcerts.com/events.html?eventID=216527



Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 10:56:05 ET
Posted by: Walson, calgary

investinginoil.blogspot.com


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 10:54:52 ET
Posted by: Pa,m,

I live about 20 minutes from the State Theatre in New Brunswick (1st date!). It's so small though - Im afraid it will sell out before I can get seats! Im going to start lighting candles now!! Im thinking I might have to try for NJ, NY, DC and see what I get. Woohoo!!


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 10:33:59 ET
Posted by: SCDALAK, BOSTON

Radja,

See you at the Opera House??


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 10:10:20 ET
Posted by: MF, etc.

donald, please come to europe,
you've got also the younger fans here,
not only the old farts...


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 10:09:07 ET
Posted by: MF, etc.

donald, please come to europe,
you've got also the younger fans here,
not only the old farts...


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 09:26:44 ET
Posted by: Josey, Atlanta

Since he's not getting anywhere close to the southeast, I'm now having to give serious thought to spending money that I don't have to see the Chicago show - or try to see the Chicago show anyway. Thankfully I can fly for next to nothing.

Carlock's newsletter states that "some" of the tour dates are posted. Wonder if this is in reference to later tour dates in the summer, or more possible tour dates before summer. Surely he's coming to Atlanta and Florida! The Fox theater in Atlanta would be one helluva venue for this show!


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 09:08:52 ET
Posted by: max webster,

hey Jesse --> re: Massey Hall .... don't forget Max Webster, June 9th 1977!!

and of course, the legendary Weather Report/Return To Forever show


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 08:20:07 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, anxious

Well beggars can’t be choosers, but these are very small venues – tickets are going to be tough to get. A lot of these smaller venues have tickets reserved for patrons, plus there are now VIP packages you pay extra for which feels kind of strange for DF – I’m not sure why. Also for the Opera House in Boston you will see that most of the tickets are purchased by ticket agents for resale on the web. By the time regular folks are able to buy there won’t be many tickets left. It certainly will be interesting. He could have chosen to play at the Warner Theater right here in Torrington – bigger than some of these and much nicer than most.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 03:41:28 ET
Posted by: cashin'in'this'ten'cent'life, nyc

I am a first-time poster. Please be gentle.

First off, thought you all would want to see this interesting article about Don + Walt

http://www.jewsrock.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=words.view&wordid=4A6E9853-4004-42DC-B6EC92996844DB58

Secondly, I suspect Don will do a spot on the Letterman show if he does any promotion at all, which is probably unlikely. But SD have been on Letterman once before. I think they like Letterman cause he's low-key, won't make em talk if they don't want to, have a serious music band and are in NYC.

A theater tour, which is what Don is doing, focuses on theaters, versus stadiums. Makes sense. Stadiums are ok for SD, but I can see a more intimate venue for a Donald concert. Clubs would be nice, but too small.

I am psyched about the concert but upset about the whole VIP deal. So those of us who don't have 400 dollars will have to sit in the back rows? That sucks. And I'm kinda mad Donald would let his show be marketed that way. We waited over a decade for the solo album, Donald. You think you could cut us some slack here.

But I am still psyched. Was not expecting even Donald to tour, and now I hear him AND WB might tour in the summer. Oh man. OH MAN!


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 02:12:15 ET
Posted by: Pete, Cheshire UK

Great to see the Don about to release a new one. Can't wait to hear the latest from the greatest songwriter America has ever produced ( with the help of Walter of course !! ). However, we UK Dan freaks will be very disappointed if the Don does not head for the UK where the Dan are huge. Come on Don, wew wanna see ya !! Also, for those who slate EMG, WHAT RUBBISH. EMG is an absolute cracker.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 01:45:05 ET
Posted by: Night Like This, Countermoon

MTC cover art:

http://img.hmv.co.jp/image/jacket/190/14/0/5/751.jpg


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 01:36:55 ET
Posted by: Night Like This, Countermoon

I was registered long ago for the Digest but never moved it to my new email address. I just registered, but...

"— 2006: Solo DF tours, Ending with Steely Dan Tour"

Is the SD tour for sure? Any news whether or not they'll come to FL?


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 01:24:26 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, uh hunh

That's a beaut, isn't it, SS? It's a weekend date and check out the Eagles Nest for a preparty.

Rumor has it that some of the Banyan nine have already made plans for that Wing Ding.

Be there or be....sorry?


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 00:57:53 ET
Posted by: SS, HK

If I've got this right... this is a picture of the venue for the DF show in temecula, CA. Looks awfully nice.

http://www.pechanga.com/entertainment/eventsonsale.asp


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 00:28:26 ET
Posted by: hoops,

The Dandom Digest has been sent, this time covering January 14-16, 2006

If you are a subscriber, you should see it in your email box within the next 12 hours. If you don't receive it, please email me. Again, the main reason I am in the habit of announcing this here is because some people have been having problems with delivery of the Dandom Digest, usually because of spam filters, firewalls, etc.

The following are the subjects of this particular edition of the Dandom Digest:

— Walter Becker Newletter, New WB.COM Content
---------------------------------
— 2006: Solo DF tours, Ending with Steely Dan Tour
— Scope of Tour
---------------------------------
— Here it is! DF 2006 Tour Calendar
---------------------------------
— New Keith Carlock Newsletter: KC on DF Tour
— REDUX: Call your Local AC, AA, etc Radio Station & Ask for H GANG
— REDUX: Radio Free Dandom & NEED Direct to Radio Single
— Re: Danfests, Wingdings
— Re: (2) Danfests, Wingdings & Walterpaloozas
— Re: Becker produced albums
— Patrick O'Leary uses Steely Dan to describe Gene Wolfe
— New Album from Anomalous Quintet

If you are not currently a subscriber but would like to receive the free Dandom Digest email newsletter (definitely not to be confused with the glorious Official steelydan.com or Official donaldfagen.com newsletters/mail lists), please email me or see http://www.dandom.com/dandomdigest

Thanks!

jim


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 00:26:43 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Again, please don't offer unlicensed copies of recordings on the BlueBook. (What you do in your private emails and outside of here is none of my business.) Like you all, I am a huge fan so I empathize with wanting even a taste of the new one. But like what was posted last night costs us the opportunity for even more. Clearly you guys are the ones who scream "doses!?" at concerts in front of the narcs.


Date: Tues, January 17, 2006, 00:11:30 ET
Posted by: Jesse,

MASSEY HALL, MUHFUGGAS!!!! This is incredible. Massey Hall has so much history, including the greatest bebop album of all time being recorded there in 1953 with Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Bud Powell, Charles Mingus and Max Roach. March 13th, I'll be one happy camper.

P.S. Hoops, I'm not quite sure what that e-mail meant, as it was kind of vague, but I do apologize.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 22:49:57 ET
Posted by: IDTC, PA

Notice the Hesseian references on Walter's site, specifically to STEPPENWOLF?

"Not for everyone"

"For madmen only"

Alright, WB, one of my favorite--and most personally meaningful--novels is also, obviously, one of yours.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 22:12:53 ET
Posted by: NYB,

Looks like whoever attends one of the first four dates on the Fagen tour will be hearing those Morph The Cat tunes before the cd is even released. How cool is that?


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 22:12:52 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Boston 3/9

Wow - The Opera House. The last music show I saw there was Miles Davis in 1985! Michael Franks was the opening act. A Thursday night though...bummer. Oh well, the Opera House and then the next night in Atlantic City might work. No Saturday gig on 3/11???

Mark in Boston


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 21:52:15 ET
Posted by: HeyMike, in all the time ive known you...

Cross country in 31 days!! This is very cool!!


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 21:40:07 ET
Posted by: WOW,

VIP ticket packages include:

"A rare opportunity to see Donald Fagen in concert. Premium seats, Soundcheck, Parties and more!"


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 21:17:01 ET
Posted by: Pete, NYC

Complete tour dates are up on donaldfagen.com


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 21:03:53 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, livelongandprosper

Raj: It was the freakier type of transgenices (adding or subtracting or substituting genes): Chimeras where one gene or more of one species is 'spliced" into the genome of another, particularly, part human, part animal.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/01/0125_050125_chimeras.html

Remember, Jurassic Park? ...where there were gaps in the dinosaur DNA from the amber, they spiced in frog DNA (should have used bird). That turned out well!

...OK for Speilberg's bank account and the Producers and Studio it did...



Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 20:04:49 ET
Posted by: ph,

"that freaky Goth stand-up chick with the accordian"
...er, Cher?








sorry i couldnt resist.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 19:42:10 ET
Posted by: Rajah , lookin for a kickfight

Sort of, we learned about transgenic experimentation going on out there, maybe Morph is first depicted as the result of a transgenic process, "it's possible," as that freaky Goth stand-up chick with the accordian used to say, then unexpectedly turns into something else at this very interesting "reprise" of Morph at the tail end of the record.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 19:20:40 ET
Posted by: bio-bush, @kauai.com

Did we hear this from DF FIRST?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/01/16/bad.biotech.oversight.ap/index.html


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 19:14:42 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, No King For The Queen

Sorry G...

Toto's KOTW is not of the SD variety...

SoH


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 19:05:58 ET
Posted by: Gretchen,

XM 40 was actually playing "Things I Miss The Most..." a little while ago.

Hey, Toto is coming out with a new one in Feb. and one of the tracks is called "King of the World." Has anyone heard if this is the SD KOTW or is this old news?

G


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 18:58:37 ET
Posted by: Geoff,

Raj,

similar to limeys, but funnier.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 18:31:32 ET
Posted by: Rajah ,

Who or what are "poms" Alan?


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 18:20:41 ET
Posted by: Alan, @ Home

Geoff

The show you are reffering to was simply called " Prisoner "

The poms loved it...

http://www.prisoner-cellblockh.co.uk/oti.html


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 18:17:00 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Walter Web

"Whose idea was this Johnny Damon deal?" LOL!!!!
Too bad Walter, he's a double-agent and still working for the Red Sox.

Sounds like Walter is going to pepper his site with hidden stuff.

This is going to a great year for Don, Walt & SD!

Mark in Boston


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 17:47:05 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Walty's back, ribald as ever, nice to see some things don't change, his off beat sense of the absurd in particular. Wow, what next.

It was on here in the states in the late 70s early 80s maybe, Prisoner of Cell Block H, painfully unwatchable in glorious black and white videotape from Downunder. It was stark, seamy and scarier than Australian rules football which is just wholesale mayhem with uniforms. Our H-Gang girls would fit right in.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 17:46:28 ET
Posted by: ph,

the news section of SD.com now lists Walter and Don's solo websites.
interesting.
very interesting.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 17:27:57 ET
Posted by: Josey, Atlanta

Kdawg - Quality was fine as far as I could tell by listening on computer speakers. The 68 minute piece was occasionally broken up by 3 to 4 minute interview clips with Metheny as I remember. I didn't try to record any of it.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 17:02:33 ET
Posted by: ph,

Just went to preorder Morph on Amazon, and saw an interesting statistic:

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #1,669 in Music (See Top Sellers in Music)
Yesterday: #10,842 in Music

What a jump. Hummm.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 17:02:16 ET
Posted by: re: walter,

Walter is staying the analog course.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 17:01:18 ET
Posted by: Pam, I Am

I dreamt last night that Donald Fagen was at my high school reunion. Somehow I had overlooked the fact that he was in my graduating class. He tells me that he's living in Nyack, NY but has a 9-5 job in central Jersey, so I offer to put him up in my house during the week so he won't have such a long commute. Nice dream, very memorable, one of those odd ones that sticks in your head.
Fast forward to this afternoon when I check my email and hear that Donald's new single is available for my listening pleasure. Spooky :)


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 16:45:47 ET
Posted by: max webster,

Walter's site is up !!


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 16:29:37 ET
Posted by: Vincent Egan, Glasgow, Scotland

Come on Don's management, stop messing about with the tour dates. Some of us have to book an international flight and find a window in their teaching and responsibilities schedule to make it to the gig. After the 'Everything Must Go' not going to Europe, there is no time for slacking. These things are important.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 16:14:47 ET
Posted by: geoff,




What's that old (1980s?) Australian TV show about a bunch of vicious sheilas, something about Like "Prisoner cell block H" Alan? Scotty? Rajah? They used to show it in the UK, I've never seen it in the US. but it was a lot better than 'Neighbours' or 'Skippy'

SOH: Can't wait to hear the full version, cutting the solo before it's barely started is rude. Reminds me of those TV commercials that use 'Dream on' or 'Dust in the wind' where they're cut out a few measures, and shove the ends together.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 16:02:37 ET
Posted by: Swinger, etc.

very good


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 15:59:24 ET
Posted by: Swinger, etc.

Thank you, great cover


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 15:52:03 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

ha ha, what riot, hilarious cover, check out the "Gong" sisters..Gotta love the afros..Great find.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 15:48:42 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Here is the album cover for the H Gang single.

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/hgang.jpg


(I snagged this picture from Real's Rhapsody program since it lists the H Gang single, but doesn't have it available yet for listening.)


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 15:30:35 ET
Posted by: bwaySteve, Ghosttown Mon. on Bway

Implemented with my Greenroom enabled file ( thanks everyone) I took the train to work this morning passing through Newark, groovin to the cool little number " H-Gang". I thought of all the little Josies out there who came from very humble and difficult beginnings NEEDING to use their talents to get out of the hood.This song demonstrates how effective being linear and traditional can be in painting a picture with words and music.I miss this folky kind of writing in Pop.During the mid to late '70s I was sick of where rock was going and the smooth and sophisticated 2nd generation R&B was very compelling and took advantage of the technical developments in recording which advanced this genre.When I listen to the chorus on H-Gang I am brought right back to that era and I allowed the nostalgia.There is a warmth and a lush sound to the chorus which I love.I like Fagen's vocals on the track too.He sounds younger than I would have expected and in very soulful inflection , never striving to sound "black".
The production values to me were way more 2VN than EMG which suited me fine.I like the "air". I like how the electric piano sustains in the verses without a lot of rhythmic articulation which gives everyone else so much room to do their thing.This shows a very generous and mature approach.
I also liked the Wah effects on the guitars which supported the period tone of this tune.I think the filters used were the "touch wah" effects that articulate by picking technique as opposed to using a foot pedal.( guitar players...what do you think? )I think the leads also supported the period setting as opposed to being a vehicle to show off chops.

Strategically this was a good first song to share. A foot tapper rather than something deep or oblique.It sounds like he had fun doing it and I hope that feeling comes through in the other cuts as well.I cannot be critical listening to this material.That would cut in to my peace of mind .It's like trying to decide which of your kids you like better.It just felt so good listening to this stuff today. I felt rich and full and glad to be alive on a cold grey winter day.
It was nice to see the Sunday chat come alive as it hasn't in a while , full of anticipation and celebration of this indescribable phenomenon that has meant so much to us all.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 15:04:47 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

Wow Alkali, Who can argue with that? Thanks and Kudos...


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 14:55:20 ET
Posted by: don's west of hollywood agent, near the wiltern

Update

http://www.thewiltern.com/events.aspx

click on donald fagen for ticket prices

on sale 1/21/06


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 14:28:46 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

SCDLAK: here's a brief story behind "H Gang":
Denise is a red head headed girl, recently divorced and sprung from prison for a Heroin rap, she now lives on the flats of Kansas ; was in a group with the gong sisters (think “the go go’s” with a couple of more chords and a lot more talent)
The group formed in Hinktown, not too far from Hicksville, NY. (Interesting side note: the town was named after Thelonius Hink the “inventor” if you will, of the kid’s game called ‘Hink Pink’ this activity is called "Hink Pink" or "Hinky Pinky" or "Hinkety Pinkety" or "Hitinkety Pitinkety." The explanation of the different names is part of the game. Hink pinks are one-syllable words that rhyme. You write down the "definition" and the kids come up with the hink pinks. For example, if the clue is "a large feline," the hink pink is "fat cat."
If the clue is “bi-seasonal port district”, the Hink pink is “Wharf Morph”)
The stagnant 80’s music scene was fertile ground for mischievous behavior, especially if you were a teeny bopper as was our protagonist and her posse.
They played a few gigs but, quickly ran out of cash and began dealing H.
They got busted and Denise, having a heart of fire, took the blame and the prison sentence for her crew.
The rest as they say is history.

Peace
A


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 14:14:10 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

Josey:
How was the quality? Does it come through in CD quality? This is referring to the internet version.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 13:39:26 ET
Posted by: gagi, europe

as i was fearing, the first two listenings to h-gang,
leaved me disappointed.

it sure will grow while more listening, but i won't hear it anymore now, till morph comes out,
because of the balance of all songs.

nevertheless, i guess, for me (a kamakiriad lover)
it might be an "b" album, together with e.m.g. etc.

for e.m.g. lovers sure it might be an "a" album.




Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 13:33:28 ET
Posted by: Josey, Birmingham

I used up my free 3 day trial with XM when they were going to play Metheny's "The Way Up" in it's entirity before it was released.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 13:15:51 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, laughing

New Donald Fagen coming up on the Peak..."requests coming in from all over the world..."

Way to go, H-Gang!


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 13:14:44 ET
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

H-GANG IS ABOUT PREGNANCITES


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 12:59:36 ET
Posted by: Luke,

Thanks to Jesse and Fionna for passsing along the H Gang!!!!
Luke


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 12:38:38 ET
Posted by: NYB, it came to me in a dream...

"H" Gang?

What state does Donald spend his winters in?


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 12:34:38 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

Thanks for the tip on xm. Here is the link to listen to xm for free for 3 days. Does anyone have this and are the streams cd quality?

http://xmro.xmradio.com/xstream/index.jsp


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 11:50:31 ET
Posted by: reneon, USA

belissimo guches ;) best of the web! http://www.multiweb.cz/rxman/


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 11:34:09 ET
Posted by: Tour Guide, No Connecticut shows

Big Fan- Closest they get to Connecticut is Boston.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 11:26:59 ET
Posted by: Loving the H gang, ****

Had this thought concernig the H Gang:

Hallelujah Gang, just my 2 cents worth.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 11:01:28 ET
Posted by: Big Fan , Waiting patiently at work

Unfortunatly I have to work today and haven't heard the new single yet. Hoops, looks the seating capacity of the Chicago Theater is 3550 similar to the Oakdale Theater (Now the Chevrolet theater) in CT where SD played in Sept of 03 - I think it holds 4827 and looks like they have a lot of the same acts playing in the future - so maybe there is some hope of him not playing at the casinos. Can't wait to hear more dates. I had to update my Pollstar account to add DF. Never thought about a solo tour when I picked my artists originally.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 10:57:19 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, OMIGOD...

Well, about an hour ago I heard the full-version (in glorious stereo) of H-Gang on XM 45 and let me tell you this:

It is fucking jaw-droppingly good...

And: That guitar outro goes on and on and on for a least another 60-70 seconds (or so it seemed)...

You can catch it again on the "Build Your Own Show" show on XM 45, info in the link below...H-Gang is the last song to play during this hour-long show...Do the free XM trial and SET YOUR CLOCKS!

You can thank me later...

http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_guide.jsp?ch=45

SoH


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 10:56:09 ET
Posted by: SCDALAK, BEANTOWN


Where exactly is Hinktown? and who are Denise and the "Gong Sisters"???


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 10:56:00 ET
Posted by: Hutch, Va.


Good song. The groove after the intro does remind me of WASAM.

Hello Howard. Hope you're doing well.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 09:52:35 ET
Posted by: Jaco, uk

Thanks to those hip dudes. You know who you are.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 09:20:13 ET
Posted by: HeyMike, these suburban streets

Jesse/Fionna thanks..very sweet! Fagen's the coolest cat on the planet!!

See you on State Street!


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 09:17:59 ET
Posted by: ph, :(

Wow, you all sure know how to make a guy feel guilty...


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 07:48:14 ET
Posted by: Howard,



Howard


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 06:07:33 ET
Posted by: Girlfriend, up early


Here is the link Doc Mu posted earlier. It seems to me that if you've enjoyed H-Gang, you would want to pass it on to other unsuspecting listeners elsewhere.

http://www.radioandrecords.com/Formats/RadioLinks/Triplea_Links.asp

Pick one or two a day and drop an e-mail. You never know who's day you'll make.....


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 05:42:30 ET
Posted by: Still Sparkin', Hong Kong

Sure feels international in here today.

Thanks to Fife for thinking of a fellow Canadian well out of sight...but not out of luck. Sounds good, eh !

Scotty...good to see you back in circulation.

March 27th In Los Angeles...???? mighty tempting. Hope I can find another Southland date or two.


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 03:42:49 ET
Posted by: Philippe, France

The Blue is a family, thanks
Have a nice day singing H Gang.
Philippe


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 03:09:37 ET
Posted by: To Jesse, Spain

That's SD spirit, I would share H-Gang with everybody who asks me because I'm sure that every and each fan will buy at less 1 copy of "Morph". I've got 3 original copies of EMG (European, American and DVD-A).


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 02:56:23 ET
Posted by: Java,

Those opening chords just transported me. The whole thing had so many echoes of so many other Dan tunes - 'Haitian Divorce' and 'Shame' in particular - and yet completely fresh and totally Donald. Can't wait for the rest of the album... did somebody say there's another single out soon?


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 01:57:11 ET
Posted by: Mermaids union Local 29, Weeki Wachee Florida


Yes Rajah we all admire your big moron mouth - NOT!


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 01:57:05 ET
Posted by: Singapore Steve, South east Asia

down here in Singapore...they never played any tracks from 2vN or Evertything Must go....so I doubt that I will hear any new Fagen on the radio here!.......Fagen has done it again! He's a cross between Gershwin and Stevie Wonder!


Date: Mon, January 16, 2006, 01:01:39 ET
Posted by: moray eel, station

oo la la...

or as Hoops would say, "Doses!"

m.e.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 23:30:44 ET
Posted by: Jesse,

Better yet, somebody could send it through www.yousendit.com, and then post a link so that 25 people could download it. I would be so grateful if that happened. I'm just dying to hear this track, because Toronto radio is NOT playing it.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 22:43:39 ET
Posted by: moray eel, l

la station par radio locale l'a

m.e.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 22:19:17 ET
Posted by: Dollars Jones, Treasurer, H Gang Inc.

And in every club and hall they played
The crowd knew every word
Even today folks are talking about
The incredible sounds they heard

Self referential?


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 21:43:30 ET
Posted by: lightsout, dark and dank

http://www.surrounding.com/Products/LucePlan/BERENICE_L.asp


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 21:42:07 ET
Posted by: To Mike B,

Hey Mike B, could you please share the wealth of theat new DF tune to sluttymofo669@yahoo.com?


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 21:26:03 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Looking For A Kickfight

Scotty!

Ya' larrikin...SO good to see you posting again Mate! Can't wait to hook up...There WILL be gas in the car this time!

RE: The Wiltern in LA...Saw Rickie Lee Jones play that room back in '03...It's cozy, intimate and classic with amazing acoustics...A most worthy venue for a DF show...Hope I can make it back out there...

SoH


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 21:18:36 ET
Posted by: Mike B, Lubbock

Big thanks to those of you who sent copies of H Gang.

I am forever grateful--

Whoo-Haw. A new Donald tune!

M.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 20:08:46 ET
Posted by: ph,

Mike, got you covered. BUT I'M NOT SENDING ANY MORE!!

Rag, I saw PF @ Live 8 (on TV)...that was awesome. Except for Waters singing Wish You Were Here. That wasn't so awesome.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 19:56:45 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

The lamp on Fagen's desk is from Luceplan, model "Berenice"
It retails for about $ 350 and is great.
Gilmour will be on tour in May.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 19:50:17 ET
Posted by: Mike B., Lubbock, Texas

Please, please, please, could somebody email a copy of H Gang to me at mborshuk@yahoo.com.

I'll be forever grateful.

Steely in West Texas,
Mike B


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 19:47:18 ET
Posted by: Paul,

V.I.P. Ticket Packages? How about tickets for die-hard fans?


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 19:28:19 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Which One's Dan?

My nephew gave me the Live 8 Concert on DVD for Christmas. The Pink Floyd set is freakin’ amazing!!! Gilmour is awesome. Jeez, I wish someone on this board knew of a good PF cover band! Hmmmmmm……

Chrysler – On to the AFC Championship! Kick Bronco ass! Now hopefully, the media will lighten up on anointing Manning aa the greatest QB ever.

Steve – I think this will be a kick in the pants to the Patriots and they’ll be back next year, stronger than ever! Hope to see you at some shows this year!

Mark in Boston


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 19:25:50 ET
Posted by: ph, wish i was there

An IL show would probably work out, but I'll have spent all my money going to Chicago for Fagen :P


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 18:54:49 ET
Posted by: Gretchen,

ph, where do you live? Gilmour has 8 shows in April in NYC, IL, and CA. Check Ticketbastard.

Perfect timing for the Wiltern show....now how about some NY dates? The wait is killing me!

March is going to be a traveling month. Now is the time we should think about renting that damn motor home.....call it the Happy Bus.


G


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 18:45:06 ET
Posted by: Denise, got hitched

The Wiltern Theater in LA is standing room only on the main floor. Sounds like another Rosealnd-like experience, folks!


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 18:31:07 ET
Posted by: NYB,

Yep, there it is. Click "Event Calendar".

http://www.thewiltern.com


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 18:30:59 ET
Posted by: Scotty, Sydney

SOH wrote: "..That is unquestionably Jon Herington on the wah guitar...I watched him do the solos on Haitian Divorce like a dozen times over the course of the EMG tour and the guitar breaks in H-Gang are SO reminiscent of those that it gives me the chills...

More...More...MORE!!! "

Absolutely SPOT on SOH !!!

I'm still getting goose bumps every time I hear it. I want the rest of Herington's solo and the rest of the tune. I reckon there's gotta be at least another 2 minutes to it.

This track is huge! It grabs you from the very first listen and just gets better - even after playing it on constant loop all day

Great days ahead.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 18:26:51 ET
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS, CITY OF THE GREAT TOOTS

199$ & 169$ for one night in a hotel? you guys must have been kidding. What about all those people in the third world dying because they don't have one little piece of bread to eat. What about all those poor ones in our "civilized" material world, the forgotten ones living outside our society.
So my friends,is it possible to think about them from time to time?


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 18:11:03 ET
Posted by: ph, !!!!!!!

no way in hell.
just confirmed that the new david gilmour album will be released on march 6!

i cant wait for march. i cant wait for march. i cant wait for march. i cant wait for march. i cant wait for march. i cant wait for march. i cant wait for march. i cant wait for march. i cant wait for march. i cant wait for march.....


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 18:06:48 ET
Posted by: Morph the, Almighty Dollar

From df.com

tour dates and VIP ticket packages coming soon


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 18:06:33 ET
Posted by: Sly (again), Montreal

Plus, you can find this mention on Donald Fagen's site:

Tour dates and VIP ticket packages coming soon


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 18:04:13 ET
Posted by: Sly, Montreal

New thing appears on www.donaldfagen.com site.

I've just copy from the site: a new show date in L.A.

Chicago is not written yet... still...

3/27 Los Angeles, CA The Wiltem LG 1/21


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 17:46:46 ET
Posted by: la chat noir, oui

Mais oui, le dossier est grand ainsi vous pouvez devoir dégager votre inbox.





Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 17:46:06 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky

If anyone would send me a copy I'd be very appreciative also.

Tom

SoulMonkey168@insightbb.com


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 17:38:01 ET
Posted by: philippe, France

Hello there, anyone would be kind enough to send H Gang , even low quality to the following adress: poudensan(nospam)@wanadoo.fr ?
Merci d'avance
Hope I'll be able to attend to at least one concert.
Philippe


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 17:28:38 ET
Posted by: Mad Anagrammer, Eternal Path

Speaking of anagrams, I hope it's not some sort of weird prophecy, but "Donald Fagen, Morph the Cat" also works out to...

"Fogel porn chat death---Damn!"

Hey, we've already heard that the album's about death. :-)

Just kidding Mr. Fogel (in case you're reading), but it really does work out to that (among many other possibilities, of course).


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 17:13:34 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

Alright, one last semi-vague inane comment for now...

It's not the same pic or anything, but I just realized that the shot of Donald on MtC is very similar in pose/clothes/mood to the original one (credited to Danny Clinch) he first had on his website in 2004. Although looking back at it now (since I saved it at the time) I notice that in the original website shot he appears to be leaning his arms on a railing, but I can't tell if he was standing (with a slouched posture) or sitting. Regardless, it looks to be very similar upper body posture and facial expression.

Not sure that it means anything. I'm just sayin'...


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 17:08:54 ET
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OR THE FITTEST

MORPH THE CAT IS A TRIBUTE TO SYD BARRETT
if you anagram "donald fagen morph the cat"
you get "THAN A MADCAP GOD FELT HORN".

meditate about it and have a smoke


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 16:47:10 ET
Posted by: NYB,

When you're going through loss, and the anguish of it, everything is hazy and you forget the little things. Like tying your shoelaces...


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 16:43:29 ET
Posted by: NYB, Life can be very strange

"Is Donald watching Morph the cat? Or maybe watching the cat morph?" (Daddy G)

I don't think so Daddy...
Zoom in on that face. That's the face of loss. I know that face. I think I know what that face is about but I don't wanna say.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 16:43:14 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

The left shoelace being untied symbolizes the artist having lived most of his life and made it through all sorts of "knotty" circumstances until...

...the other shoe drops!?

I don't know. I got nothin'. Just a little shoe humor. (Very little.)

Or hey, maybe he's fixin' to remove his shoes so he can play some "sole" music.

. . . .

Thank you, good night...


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 16:36:13 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

Of course, now I can't help but wonder "Where does the 'spork' fit in?" :-)


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 16:34:21 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

NYB, I saved the 800x800 size image, then opened it in Adobe PhotoDeluxe Home Edition, rotated it right 90 degrees and played with the brightness and contrast...

The poster appears to say 'FORK SHOULD BE 7" LONG' and there are a couple arrows pointing to the fork below the spoon. At first, I too thought it said 7th, but it wasn't until I really strained the old eyeballs that I realized there was something more there and finally made out the word LONG. Only then did I realize it was 7" instead of 7th.

Are we crazy for examining trivial stuff like this in such detail trying to find hidden meanings? Probably. Yeah, I think so.

Is Donald watching Morph the cat? Or maybe watching the cat morph?


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 16:26:07 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, gasping

Ok, all you Pats fans, sorry for the loss. Shit happens, you know and you've had a nice run.

Are there any Denver fans here? Oh Michael, Oh Jesus. We know you're not to blame...

Everyone needs a little gold and black in their life! Hope those gaudy gold and black football beads I threw on my mother's grave in 2002 are still there.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 16:24:18 ET
Posted by: ph, can't wait for march!!

just heard that David Gilmour has a solo album tentatively planned for release this March! and its still on schedule apparently. i've heard a short little clip of one track and its absolutely beautiful.
this is awesome! my two favorite artists have new albums coming out the same month! yaaaaaaaaay!!!!


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 16:22:35 ET
Posted by: NYB,

No..., it's a picture of a fork and a spoon, and it says "FORK should be 7th..." or something like that.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 16:19:39 ET
Posted by: NYB,

And if you copy that picture and blow it up you'll see that the framed picture on the wall says something vertically. Does it say, "Park Should Be 7th..." or something like that? Hmm...


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 16:10:53 ET
Posted by: NYB,

What does the left shoelace being untied symbolize? If anything...


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 15:23:42 ET
Posted by: The Travel Desk, *On location*

Stay tuned, folks! Some additional hotels in the Chicago area to be listed soon. One for every budget.

Also, American Airlines has very reasonable rates to Chi-town...check it out.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 15:23:06 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

P.G. Very nice. Lots of angles and shadows. Resigned to being an observer. Only curves in the chair backrest and letters in Morph the Cat The old gray metal reading lamp is classic.


I think we'll hear songs that are an extension of Things I Miss the Most, Greenbook, Pixeleen, Lunch with Gina part of EMG mixed with some Nightfly/Gaucho outtakes-like chords and a little Kama R&B . suedave and I can already hear a litte TIMTM and Pixeleen


Jonny's take sounds like a good direction. smooth, layered vocals upfron like EMG/Nightly/Gaucho with some odd chord changes, but fresh ones.. By sexiness I think he means the smooth charm in in Aja or Nightfly, and balanced mix where all the instruments come out and blend with each other. Kama, TvN, EMG have a little less charm, but if Morph had > charm than Nightfly, then WOW!

John, I agree. iTunes is a big way to promote the album. With 2 singles by the end of the month.

Dimension: I think it's a VERY good sign that the promo blurb is on the main WB site, rather than the hideous Reprise site full of Cher, Depeche Mode, Madonna and other vulgarities...

Chrysler: Way too kind. Nice to have some real material to work with.






Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 15:18:40 ET
Posted by: ph, pix gang

suedave, THE EXACT SAME THING KEEPS HAPPENING TO ME!!!!
I'm humming/singing H Gang, and then suddenly it mixes into Pixeleen right at the chorus!
I'm not the only one so insane after all!!


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 15:02:39 ET
Posted by: PQ, NYC

Belcher - Days Inn Gold Coast is 79 bucks a night and you can take the Red Line subway right to State Street. I usually meet up with Hoops at the Hotel Allegro where I stay, but since oh forget it.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 14:58:36 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Ouch. Any Motel 6 locations anywhere around there for us penniless bastards in college still?


Thanks for the album cover P-G. Very cool.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 14:50:34 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

Cool! Thanks for the MtC cover pic link P-G.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 14:47:49 ET
Posted by: hoops ,

Hotel Burnham is $199 a night, plus about $30 in extra tax.

Also try Palmer House Hilton...$169.00 average a nite plus $30 in extra tax just steps away from the show.

LWO! Good Irish pub in Chicago???? That's almost like asking you to find us a good Texas roadhouse near Houston. :-) So many possibilities. BTW: Remember Hotel rates will be higher for St Pat's. I believe the Parade will be Saturday morning. It's quite an experience.

Laters folks.

jim


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 14:38:56 ET
Posted by: P-G,

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=86284272&size=m


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 14:35:17 ET
Posted by: suedave, is there a denial of service attack on the major search portals?

I woke up this morning with the beginning of H Gang floating in my thoughts. Not so much the words as the melody. I'd get to the part right before the chorus and I'd have this big fat pregnant pause since I couldn't remember what was next, when something unexpected happened. Since I can't hum in this format I'll reference the words to the 2nd verse

For - eight - months - now in that - freak - ing - cell
she's been - knockin' - i - deas - a - round
now - she's - good - and - ready - to - make a - big noise
right - here - in - her - own - hometown - (pregnant pause)...

Piiix - - e - leen .........

Not sure if that's the Pixeleen connection mentioned before but it's funny what a mind will do to connect the dots. Have a laugh.

H Gang starts off sounding a bit much like smooth jazz but then the song is built up by DF adding layers of complexity so that by 2/3 of the way into the song its swinging and I'm bopping to the groove. I like it and it'll be great for March 7th to roll around.

No NYC shows on the agenda yet?



Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 14:07:30 ET
Posted by: The Travel Desk, whereevah

Party Central

http://www.burnhamhotel.com


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 13:58:36 ET
Posted by: Gretchen,

Of course it's sexy and hot, it's DONALD! I can't wait to see that picture of him, I can see it now.......

We're considering Chicago........sounds like we'll be sorry if we don't go. Hoops, what hotel did you recommend many posts back?

G


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 13:38:16 ET
Posted by: DWB,

For those who don't visit Mizar5's Rumpus Room:

"Black & White photo of a room with Donald to the left in the corner on a chair. All dressed in black. He's leaning forward, clasping his hands and looking to the wall/floor lost in his own thoughts.

To his left and the centre of the picture a desk with an empty chair. On the desk pieces of paper, pens and assorted other clutter. A framed painting on the wall.

The light from one single window help make it a very serene and moody picture that looks like it could just as easily have been taken in the 50' or 60's.

OK. Now you know what to look for in the record store early March."

courtesy of PGE.

and here comes 'Jonny', a genuine fan:

"sorry, i can't leak it out. I got a watermarked copy from my boss to listen to, but trust me, it'll be worth the wait. the official release is march 17th i think.
anyway, every track on here sounds really hot, the production is like the songs on 'everything must go'
with some harder guitars on a couple tracks.
definitely the funky/blues smart-ass-ness of becker's influence is not here, this is not a steely album, this is pure fagen. pure fun. but it feels so good. this album goes down like a 10 dollar chocolate-martini. it's so smooth. and fagen's vocals are spot on.
it's very sexy, which is interesting. nightfly and kamakiriad don't have the sexiness to them, that morph the cat has.
it's fagen reveling in his glory.
the chord changes are also more avant-garde i think in certain songs, and also the choices of production are a little different from traditional steely-fagen fare.
the opening track has double layered vocals, and some of the tracks sound like fagen singing two different vocal styles over each other (brite nightgown specifically). it's really hot.

great pagoda of funn is my fav song i think so far.

but i've only listened a couple times.

man, i love fagen. can't wait for the live shows.

if he plays maxine i might cry.

J"






Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 13:32:42 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Alas, wasn't me at BW3's unfortunately.

And I understand where you're coming from with the "petty arguements and snobishnish." I just ignore the arguments as much as I can and generally have no idea what the hell people are talking about with a lot of the more intellectual stuff.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 13:24:48 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky

Hey Dan, did I happen to meet you at BW3's several weeks ago? I was pretty well pixelated by that point and couldn't remember the guys name. We sat around all night playing Steely Dan on the jukebox. My friend Mike Price was there also. If it's not you then a hardy hello to a fellow Dan fan in the 'Ville. We'll hook up in Chi-town. Being the first show and all, I'm getting damn excited. I used to post here all the time ---several years ago---. I grew weary of petty arguements and snobishnish that can be a part of Dandom. I've been a lurker ever since and only post during touring season.

Tom (Shakin' with the 3 sisters)


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 13:20:09 ET
Posted by: John, nyc

Spoke to my friend at reprise on friday he said that h gang based on what he heard was the "most radio friendly" on the disc but another single should hit smooth jazz stations. The guy he gets the info from said that fagen/steely's music is tough to catagorize and as such is not really made for radio but intended for the listener to enjoy the whole album. BIG surprise.

Mark Knopfler has the same issues with his solo stuff.

That's what happens when you don't sell out and are truly an artist.

But, he said from what he can gather CD sales are at their lowest in years anyway so the real money for the artist is in the touring and now online sales..a la itunes which is where H Gang will be around 1/30/06 supposedly.

Regards for now! I will keep you all up to date with my latest gossip. He still hasn't heard the album at all. But he was at an industry shindig in manhatten and a few musicians said that they always want to pick up a steely/fagen new issue to have in their studio to test their (monitors)? I'm not sure what that means.

Regards, Dave


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 13:00:45 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, thinking green

I'm all about a sure thing, SoulMonkey! Bonus is that the Friday before is St. Patrick's day, so hoopsie, find us a good Irish Pub.

Drinking holidays are my favorite and I've already got the party favors!

Hmmm...I guess we could be the Age Gang, as well. It don't worry me.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 12:58:45 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Hello there fellow Louisvillian! I'm planning on making the trip up to Chicago myself.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 12:44:42 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky

Who's going to Chicago besides me? Where is the Danfest?


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 12:41:18 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, back on the outside

Orphan girl with crazy red hair - Pippi Longstocking. Right, Rajah?
Technically she's not an orphan, but many feel that she is.

Is it Hinktown or Hick town? LOL, I think the latter!


G


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 12:40:47 ET
Posted by: Dimension Skipper, 1000 miles from nowhere

Yep, there it is at http://www.warnerbrosrecords.com/ ...

MORPH THE CAT

"The first solo album in 13 years from Donald Fagen, Morph The Cat is another contemporary classic from half of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame duo Steely Dan. With Fagen’s adventurous musical depth, uniquely layered lyrics and entertaining subject matter (from a conversation with the ghost of Ray Charles to a romantic liaison with an airport security guard named Joan), Morph The Cat is the newest chapter chronicling the most sophisticated music in rock."

It's about 2/3 - 3/4 of the way down the page. The WB logo next to the text has the link to DF.com. Thanks, John!


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 12:07:58 ET
Posted by: JOHN, NYC

My intern friend at reprise said that they put the album information for morph the cat on the WARNER BROS. Website!!

SO check it out. No album cover yet but it does link to df.com.

warnerbrothersrecords.com


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 11:35:47 ET
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS

if it's true that donalds first show will be the 18 of march in Chicago, then that really good news.
The 13 of march there is Jamie Cullum too in Chicago.
By the way,i'm listening to the peak radio since hours but where the hell stays the H Gang?


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 10:16:13 ET
Posted by: Chrysler, Steeltown

Thanks, Boston Rag, you have no idea how disappointed I am too, both as a former New Englander AND as a hopelessly devoted Stumblers fan looking forward to a rematch with the Pats.

IF the Stumblebums upset the Colts--and it CAN very well happen--then they WILL go on to win the Superbowl, that's all there is to it. What can't be underestimated is the powerful motivating factor of Jerome Bettis' pending retirement; the Black and Gold want to win one--the BIG one--for the "gipper" (the Bus, that is).


Mu/FACW, dude, you missed your true calling as a musicologist. Seriously. You can HEAR, brothah.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 09:34:43 ET
Posted by: Self Absorbed Regular Dept, Your Bookshelf

Jim I'll make you a deal, every time someone ascribes a post to me that is not mine I'll post this here:



The founder and originator of the Steely Dan Online Community, St Al, says

"Frankly it astounds me that every Steely Day fan hasn't read this book..read it and you'll understand...only a serious fan could whip up a story like this...I insist you trot your ass on over to iuniverse and buy it!" That's Amethyst Secrets, TDFNV1

And don't miss fascinating analysis and opinions on H Gang over at Banyan Trees.

And for your Fever Dreams fix : cordmeyer.spymac.com/mortalinquiries.html


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 09:25:10 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

Mark, I am still stunned over that game last night, they handed it to Denver on a silver platter, they dominated, I could never envision a scenerio they loose in that manner. Its fitting that Morph the Cat is about "endings" isnt it??

Steve


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 09:09:24 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, the morning after

What a roller-coaster two days! The extreme high and giddiness of hearing Donald’s new track on Friday. The extreme low of watching my Patriots lose last night after 10 consecutive playoff wins. I actually felt nauseous in the last minute of the game. Had to whip on the headphones and go with comfort music starting with H-Gang.

Chrysler – good luck today against the Colts!


Mark in Boston


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 08:31:16 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Jim, Fair enough. If you can take it so can we.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 07:04:28 ET
Posted by: Alkali, Malibu

Malibu may just be the prettiest town on earth!
(flying back to Gotham tomorrow)

Matt: if Don's and Walt's CD's came out on the same day i would deffinetly listen to Walt's first.
Donald's sound is very, if not too Steely Dan; whereas Walt's isn't.
it's like Robert Fripp would avoid listening to Mahavishnu for fear of it influencing him in that direction.
i just know that Don's CD is gonna be spotless and buffed to a sheen.
and i'm afraid it'll take away from Walt's effort, somehow.
i just want to kick back and listen to Walt's raw and unorthodox approach.
and then of course spin MTC.
i have a feeling these two CD'S will be in my CD changer for quite a while.

Peace
A


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 05:31:14 ET
Posted by: W, E

me- Smooth Jazz! You don't like it? Hey,is this Peter Q?

Boy, I think you're way wrong about this tune. You most likely didn't care for 'Deacon Blues' when it came out either. H-Gang is absoultly killer! Can't wait to hear the rest of the album.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 04:52:44 ET
Posted by: Night Like This, Countermoon

Last post went early...

Anyway, I have a couple questions...

1) Did anyone manage to record the stream of H Gang? I missed it at every opportunity.

2) I've seen on various sites that Fagen's doing his first solo "theater tour." Pardon the ignorance, but what is meant by a "theater" tour, how does that differ from a regular tour?

Thanks! :)


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 04:51:26 ET
Posted by: Night Like This, Countermoon


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 04:22:47 ET
Posted by: lovethisgig, atlanta

Brilliant CK, you may be on to something!


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 03:44:08 ET
Posted by: CK, etc.

H = AGE

"This new one is about endings really"


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 02:37:20 ET
Posted by: lovethisgig, Atlanta

Certainly, you're entitled to an opinion M.E. But my opinion is that your receptors simply haven't been scupted ;), as Fagen & Becker once put it (in the McPartland show I think). I say it's an instant classic from an artist that long ago* moved beyond mere genius.

lovethisgig

* If not 77 or 82, then certainly 2000.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 01:51:00 ET
Posted by: moray eel, h

I've got to admit... not a fan of H Gang. Smooth jazz at it's worst. It sounded very weak being sandwiched between The Rolling Stones and classic Tom Petty. I was hoping multiple listens would do the trick, but no dice. It sounds like a track that Paul Hardcastle would have thrown away.

m.e.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 01:18:41 ET
Posted by: Rajah,



And in other news:

Steven's very fine Pretzel Logic band, a Steely Dan tribute band played a place called, "Monsoon Cafe" last Thrusday here in Santa Monica on the Promenade...terrible room, a Shanghai Nookie-palace with no walls, just a bamboo ceiling. They played great, as always. Wish you all could see them.


Date: Sun, January 15, 2006, 00:57:28 ET
Posted by: lovethisgig, Atlanta

In the Atlanta area, the target is 92.9 Dave FM,
"Rock without Rules." http://929dave.fm
Flood them with requests Atlantans!!

Michelle is the program director.
michelle@929dave.fm
Request line: 404-741-9393

Finally heard it on the The Peak.
Fagen is a freakin god!!

lovethisgig


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 23:40:24 ET
Posted by: hoops,

I think it's great we're getting The Peak to play it but, as others astutely pointed out, remember to email or call your local Adult Alternative or AC or similar station that would play it. I think WXRT is the station here in Chicago that should be targetted and I've been doing that. If someone could I.D. the station to me in your area that you think would play H Gang, I will contact the Dandom list for that area to have them request it. It's probably outdated but wasn't there a list that SD.com wanted us to target when SD singles came out? Or at least it was a list of stations that was playing SD radio singles.

We know The Peak will play it. Let's get others to play it too.

jim


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 23:36:40 ET
Posted by: hoops,

I run other boards where I have a user ID and password. It's not a technical problem for me but there is another side.

We've had several people give us good info just this week that wouldn't if they couldn't stay anon.

Moreover, it's clear that a lot of casual readers who popped in yesterday for "H Gang" wouldn't have gone to the trouble of setting up an account, etc. That was great seeing those people!

So three or four people get their buzz posting as anons; at least one went away about 2 weeks ago. And it would be such a big help if Rajah would completely ignore and never acknowledge the flaming in any way but he is incapable of that. The concern is t hat it would become the same few regulars posting. That's what happened before.

Be well. fly low and be cool and ignore the bastards.

Boston Rag, you're the best!

jim



Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 21:25:57 ET
Posted by: Doc µ, canyouseetherealme

Raj: It appears I have an "admirer" as well. great! - an even more bogus version of me with someone else's hands, eyes, etc. Not moi...Most obvious since there is No overanalysis of the new Fagen masterpiece.!! lol Can't ruin my day now.


hoops: For what it's worth my vote is for enforced userID, PW...works for many sports message boards where the moderators actualy ENJOY banning psychos...


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 20:59:34 ET
Posted by: fife, baltimore,eh

Well after much wringing of the hands because of the lack of soundcard in this beast I was able to enjoy H gang. What a catchy tune! When my other half asked me what it was like I could only describe it as having that wonderful jazzy pop sound that Donald does so well. Now I'm jonesing for more!!


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 20:58:40 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu , Doobieville America



Why Matt

Michael McDonald's CD of course then Don's


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 20:35:48 ET
Posted by: sympaku, @paia

Matt,
Walter
thanks for the opportunity to contribute


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 20:34:03 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, HFS

"And in every club and hall they played
the crowd knew every word
even today folks are talkin' about
the incredible sounds they heard"

Sure sounds like Roseland 2003 to me...

SoH


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 20:03:41 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, TN

H Gang sounds like one of the Gaucho outtakes to me (I mean the lyrics etc, not the quality of the stream, though that probably contributes some). The vocal sounds more like Donald does live than TVN or EMG did, IMHO. And yeah, it's way shorter than I expected, wonder if that's due to radio edits, or just because the song is designed to be a single. Either way, I'm excited that the album is moving closer and that this has us all talking.

So, if Donald and Walter's albums came out on the same day, and you picked them both up at the same time, which would you pop into the cd player on the ride home?

Matt


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 19:21:21 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, HFS-Gang

That is unquestionably Jon Herington on the wah guitar...I watched him do the solos on Haitian Divorce like a dozen times over the course of the EMG tour and the guitar breaks in H-Gang are SO reminiscent of those that it gives me the chills...

More...More...MORE!!!

SoH


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 19:02:10 ET
Posted by: NYB, are we there yet?

The outtro on that song really swings. Wish I recorded it so I could hear it again right now... Damn! How many days till March 7th?

This is like having a winning powerball lottery ticket and not being able to cash it in for six weeks!


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 18:52:07 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

"gotta a lot of email requests for that one"

lol great work folks

Raj: Notice how the WASAM Rhodes slam chord is on the 2 beat of the measure in the intro and easily heard in the verse (and melts into the horns), while the "H" chord on the 3 in the intro and chorus.

Pretty good stream at home - I think Fagen's voice sounds better than I thought earlier. How does it sound on the FM radio??

Nice hook and ditty. I'd say of similar Fagenesque pop songs, Gina and Pixeleen are probably better overall compositions...but H-Gang is one fine**s piece of pop construction. IMO you have to go back to Nightfly/Gaucho/Aja/Royal Scam days to hear production this righteous. For something lite is has a litlle Scam bite. If that's Herington on wah guitar, major kudos to him.


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 18:40:26 ET
Posted by: Alkali, Cali

Just heard it again...
on the audio stream vs. my CD.
the sound quality is lacking big time.
this song is growing on me!

how does this station play shit and then Fagen?
what was that just before HGANG 3 doors down or some garbage like that!


A


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 18:39:17 ET
Posted by: heymike, chgo

did i miss it?


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 17:19:13 ET
Posted by: angel, Pre-emptive Strike

Scrolled down to catch this for myself and figured I would move it back to the top of the posts for any who still haven't caught H Gang.

http://www.1071thepeak.com/listen/


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 16:54:07 ET
Posted by: Gretchen,

Or, "Love Jones!"






G


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 16:28:28 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Thank you Dr Mu, always enlightening, so ok how great is Donald's scary vocal in your face so close up in the mix? Kinda like that pic of him on the df website.

Muted trumpets underneath it all giving way to nasty wah wah get it everytime. Makes me feel like sailing again, h gang runaway.


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 16:23:00 ET
Posted by: At the Peak, You Heard It Hear

Wanna hear H-Gang? Tune into 107.1 The Peak today around 6:30 p.m. EST.


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 15:31:10 ET
Posted by: Tim,

W.C. Field's lyrics are the correct version.


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 15:14:25 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

...followed by Basketball Jones


Raj: Those jazzy "H" chords are on the 3 beat - and the bass is on the 1 beat instead of two and four in a 4/4 scheme - that works against the backbeat and gives the groove a really deep contrapuntal kinda feel...creates swing with a rock beat. Damn, he's good... then add the rhythm guitar 8th notes (not too high in the mix as the last few albums) in this Mutha is a Powerboat cruising with a bevy of hot babes skiing behind...




Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 14:52:11 ET
Posted by: Rajah ,

YGK & Mu - you don't sense a little "lope" in the signature of H-Gang? Surely you must, it's just a tiny sliver of a pulse faster than Jack of Speed which is why it's an unsettled meter...so Steely Dan.


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 14:44:25 ET
Posted by: Gong this!, lil sister

In 1973 Steely Dan opened up for Cheech & Chong at the Westbury Music Fair. So for that show, it's being performed as "Security Jones."


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 14:36:04 ET
Posted by: Gong That Sister, Chuck Barris' Studio

Hey Gong Sister that's Security Joan. Security Jones is a Cheech N Chong skit.


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 14:16:02 ET
Posted by: A Gong Sister, knows

"My guess is that H-Gang is this album's Cousin Dupree"

Mu~ Actually, "Security Jones" is this albums Cousin Dupree......just ten times better!


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 13:44:29 ET
Posted by: angel,

Where's Fever Dreams when you need it? Sigh

"but there's a film that's in production,
the working title's, "Song of Desire,"
about an orphan girl with this crazy red hair,
and a voice and a dream and a soul on fire"

Only orphan girl with red hair I know of is Little Orphan Annie.


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 13:25:59 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, gentlemenstartyourengines

Raj, YGK: lol 4/4 all the way baby


Can H-Gang be a HI SINGLE? I say Yes!!

For a radio hit single, you need a Huge hook and the right kind of instrumentation. New, vogue, or a classic sound.

The lynchpin is the Hook in H-Gang...and that's in the chorus. It's a monster hook. Why does the song work as a hit single? * It's all set up in the Intro!!!!* That's the answer!


The beginning of the intro is slow, almost delicate with a little lyrical piano riff, then like starting a powerful stock car, that massive bottom bass and drum groove catches - no sputter. It's a mean machine. perfectly in sync with Washington & Carlock just move this baby along. Bass, drums, piano, growling wah guitar all together and in balance...

Once the groove starts the KEY to the WHOLE THING are the 3 Piano chords + a Rhodes slam which are essentially "Here Comes the H-Gang!!!"

Here [piano chord 1] Comes [Rhodes chord] the H[piano chord 2] Gang [piano chord3]


Repeated 3 times every other bar + kind of a 4th time with a tricky delay and 2 decending chords segue to verse Just like EMG title track intro sets up the bridge of that song, the Intro of H-Gang sets up the Monster Hook Chorus...so it's inside the listener's brain. It's the repetition of the Monster Hook, and a thus much of it is "sublimininilable" so the listener doesn't tire of it...so the chorus and the Intro chord progression are the Same. Layer in some neato horns and the overdubbed smooth bakground harmonies + a little call and response and it's a full meal.

That allows the song to overcome the 3rd line of each verse, which could have used a minor hook - but the main hook is so imbedded, the listener's waiting for it...kind of like tension and release...

That plus H-Gang has a classic sound. It sounds like 70s Steely Dan, but it really doesn't. A key is that it SOUNDS more Sunny with more Charm than Kama, TvN, EMG. Not necessarily better, but a little less sour. The Band sounds a little Tighter. The mix is in great balance. Kama, TvN and the first half of EMG sound just a tad off balance. Kama and TvN on DVD-A are different albums - anyway each album has it's own kind of adult peculiarness.

The Sax and guitar fit in just right on H-Gang. Fagen has his groove back. H-Gang reminds me a little of Things I Miss the Most in blues/40s jazz chord progressions. TIMTM is a Great song - probably meatier than H-Gang. But TIMTM just doesn't work as a recording quite as well as it could have. This time things are tighter and righter, the groove deeper.

A lot of neat details. The rhythm guitars by McCracken and possbily Krantz are less obstrusive. A little like Godwhacker, the rhythm guitar meshes well with the drums and bass helping to propel the song. Nice muted trumpets and sax. Classic Move adding horns + guitar seamlessly to the mix on the second verse + lead guitar. The muted trumpet becomes part of the call & response in chorus 2 and 3. They add depth without interference. Freddie Washington does a nice smooth Walter imitation. He makes the song rock and swing at the same time. Weiskopf has a nice soulful sound with a couple of key changes? in the sax solo? and I've heard that's Herington? on the wah - nice! Check out the outtro - like Drew Zingg on steroids.

My guess is that H-Gang is this album's Cousing Dupree, most straightforward altered blues song.

However, H-Gang more than any Dan-related song since FM is

CLASSIC RADIO SINGLE MATERIAL

Moster Hook, set up by the Intro. Great Sax + guitar - what's not to like?


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 13:05:57 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

NYB: you'd need Morph Dwarf or Fleece Denise or Big Noise Pig 'Roids


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 12:53:12 ET
Posted by: NYB, always keep em guessin'...

Probably not related, but you never know...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hink-pink


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 11:53:30 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

Maybe this has been said already, but would the H in "H Gang" stand for Hinktown? The Hinktown Gang? I mean, the lyrics have a mention of Denise's hometown. Maybe H is just Hinktown. Too obvious?

Just my two nickels.


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 10:49:36 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, organizing

Yeah...just because you got it, don't sink into Nirvana. Most stations have contact links. Use them well and often.

Now, honestly, Mu, is this really harrassment? I prefer to think of it as enlightenment.


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 10:33:26 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

SoH: Good work. Sirius and XM have had an explosion of listeners.

OK, Heche Gang. Here's a list of Triple-A stations. Find one in your area and let the harrassment begin!

http://www.radioandrecords.com/Formats/RadioLinks/Triplea_Links.asp


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 09:37:05 ET
Posted by: If You Have Greenwich Mean, You Know That's Not Wayne Krantz Soloing On H Gang

Could those lyrics to H Gang be any more semi-autobiographical?


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 08:45:05 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Who's Your Buddy?

By the way...

You can get a FREE 3-day online trial of XM Radio here:

http://xmro.xmradio.com/xstream/index.jsp

SoH


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 08:30:52 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, On the outside...

I go out of town for 2 days and look what I missed...Arrrrrgh!

Anyway, I fired off an email request for "H-Gang" to XM Radio (Channel 45--XM Cafe) last night and here's their response...

"We certainly are playing H-Gang...it comes up at various times but I did stick it into next week's Build Your Own Show, which plays Monday morning at 9a (et)...that's the first of 5 airings of that show during the week...hope you get a chance to catch it...another top notch performance from him!"

Bill Evans

XM Satellite Radio Inc.
http://www.xmradio.com

SoH


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 07:48:08 ET
Posted by: Hieronymus Anonymous, Bosch

This H-Gang is an instant classic.


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 07:28:20 ET
Posted by: Alkali, Cali

Peter Boyle.
Ah, Rush....
i remember i used to listen to them alot. cool.

my guys took the audio stream and layed it flat onto disk....
no go, it didn't help the sound quality of HGANG at all.
it sounds almost tinny like Gilmours closing solo on "have a cigar"

this audio stream tease to me is like the wisp of scent you get as the full tray waiter passes your table on the way to serve another.

i want everything i ordered; aperitif, cocktails, appetizers, main course, dessert, espresso, joint.

i want everything that mad genius has been brewing up for the past few years!

bring on "M-CAT" in a tightly sealed, impossible to open, CD case complete with tastefull art on the cover and liner notes!

Peace
A


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 04:48:15 ET
Posted by: Jaco, UK

pH.....It's my birthday soon, you know...!


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 04:08:13 ET
Posted by: THEFEZ98, Boston

Wow. New Fagen tune on the radio, my favorite hard-rock band (RUSH) mentioned on the Dandom, home with our new adopted baby boy from Guatemala and off to sunny Florida Sunday (after the Pats kick the !@#$ out of the Broncos). Not a bad Friday the 13th at all. Can't wait for the tour, I assume he'll play Great Woods (oops, I guess we call it the Tweeter Center now - 2mi. down the road).

Thank Max Webster for bringing back some old memories with the mention of the Max Webster/Rush collaboration 'BattleScar', it's a great tune. I have the original vinyl. If you happen to have it or see it, check out the art work on the album holder(?) (the thing we used to put the album in before slipping it into the sleeve, great stuff. Just picked up the Rush R30 DVD, excellent, a big improvement over Rush in Rio. The intro is amazing, a must see w/ the guy that plays the Dad on 'Everyone Loves Raymond' begging for them to play 'Passage to Bangcock'. I should know his name but it's 4am here and I should be in bed. Damn Poker Stars and all this excitement is keeping me up.

Back to Fagen/Becker, which is why we are all here (sorry for the diversion), do we have an official list of concert dates yet? Nothing posted for Tweeter Center yet.


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 03:40:13 ET
Posted by: W.C. Fields, Gate C13

Herington (solo), Krantz & McCracken

Vocals are ALL Donald.

H Gang

I hear Denise is back on the outside
that's she's got a wicked plan
she's callin' in the Gong sisters again
to form the ultimate five chord band

For eight months now in that freaking cell
she's been knockin' ideas around
now she's good and ready to make a big noise
right here in her own hometown

chorus:
Here comes the h gang
slammin' out of Hinktown
better get off the stage boys
they'll be looking for a showdown

On a moonless night they started off
on a bus called Happy Day
to bring their vision to cities and towns
across the U.S.A.

And in every club and hall they played
the crowd knew every word
even today folks are talkin' about
the incredible sounds they heard

chorus:
Here comes the h gang
somebody turn on the floodlights
better get off the stage son
unless you're ready for a kickfight

Whatever happened to the H Gang
Some say they were the best
I heard they broke up - that Denise got hitched
And she's living in the Mid West.

but there's a film that's in production,
the working title's, "Song of Desire,"
about an orphan girl with this crazy red hair,
and a voice and a dream and a soul on fire

chorus:
Here comes the h gang
slammin' out of Hinktown
oh you better get off the stage boys
they'll be looking for a showdown

chorus:
Here comes the h gang
somebody turn on the floodlights
oh you better get off the stage son
unless you're looking for a kickfight


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 00:58:57 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

So I transfer my newly recorded stream of H Gang to CD to listen to in the car tonight. As I listen, I know they heavily edited this sucker. It sounds to tight to be a Fagen song. I mean, the solos have to be longer....and who knows, there could be another lyric or two. But even as a crummy stream, it sounds awesome....It'll blow me away when it hits the shelves. I'm still hummin' the chorus!!!

Here comes the H Gang!!!


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 00:17:01 ET
Posted by: Ann, Borneo

Paul...you're a star!!!

BORNEO IS GONNA ROCK TONIGHT PEOPLE!!!!!!!!

Don, you've done it again!!!!!!


Date: Sat, January 14, 2006, 00:07:20 ET
Posted by: suedave, still raining

Damn, I missed it. Sounds like I've got some fun listening ahead of me. Actually, me thinks this is gonna be a good year!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 23:22:41 ET
Posted by: ph, is this the end of the daleks?

well, my mom is 42 next month...er...
my first reaction to the Daleks was somewhere along the lines of a big hard belly laugh. special effects have evolved so much in the past decades, its hard to scare my generation i suppose. but i think much has been lost in such an evolution, producers are more worried about the monsters making your throw up than a good story like way back when. hence, i enjoy the original star trek much more than say, the last few reiterations (DS9, Voyager, Enterprise). i hate new stuff. it all sucks.
EXCEPT FOR "H GANG"!!!!! IT'S AWESOME!!!

hmm...i had included a pretty big attachment, maybe it got filtered out or blocked or something. i'll try again with a link. check your spam box too.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 22:49:20 ET
Posted by: Ann, Borneo

Paul!! many thanks for the link....scared the **** out of me....brought back bad dreams from my pre-teen days!! They were scary freaks those guys!! Must have something to do with the drain-unblocker that doubled up as an arm!!

Hey!! Remind you of your mother?? I'm 54 going on 14 according to my mother!! She keeps asking me when I'm going to grow up and stop following all these long-haired skin head rock bands??? Little does she know!!

Not received anything in my email box as yet........the anticipation is killing me!!

Ann


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 22:40:05 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Thanks, H-Man.

They hate me cause I'm beautiful, obviously.

Bring it on.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 22:11:16 ET
Posted by: hoops , chicago

The Dandom Digest has been sent, this time covering January 7-13, 2006

If you are a subscriber, you should see it in your email box within the next 12 hours. If you don't receive it, please email me. Again, the main reason I am in the habit of announcing this here is because some people have been having problems with delivery of the Dandom Digest, usually because of spam filters, firewalls, etc.

The following are the subjects of this particular edition of the Dandom Digest:

— 2006: Solo DF tours, Ending with SD Tour
— TICKETMASTER: Chicago Theatre DF Show 3/18
— Call your Local AC, AA, etc Radio Station & Ask for H GANG
— H Gang!
— That'll teach me... :(
— Re-Re-cap of Recent Steely Dan News
— REDUX: donaldfagen.com site & df mail list revamp
— Re: hip photo of DF on DF.com
— Radio Free Dandom & Direct to Radio Single
— Wlater Becker the producer
— Re: Walter Becker the producer
— some news about Dan-related-Jeff skunk Baxter

If you are not currently a subscriber but would like to receive the free Dandom Digest email newsletter (definitely not to be confused with the glorious Official steelydan.com or Official donaldfagen.com newsletters/mail lists), please email me or see http://www.dandom.com/dandomdigest

Thanks!

jim


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 21:53:45 ET
Posted by: purring, Max wasn't wrong

Guitar does sound like Walter's approach to me, although there is more flair/technique peeking through.
Wah does have the tight squeeze of Divorce.
Tenor sax solo/FM? Well, I think I know what you're saying, but Christlieb was on the warpath on FM, and Weiskopf is being a well behaved citizen. I like hearing your comments though. Nice to hear all the different impressions.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 21:51:44 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

I thought the penis pill ads flooding the screen were bad enough. However, this constant (and I do mean constant) wasting everyone's time with posts hating on Rajah is just getting downright ridiculous and frustrating.

Anon poster(s), you hate Rajah. Okay, we get it. Believe me, we get it. And it's starting to *really* wear thin now. A few of us don't even know why you hate him, and to be honest we don't really care. Enough is enough.

If you want to raise hell at him, he has an e-mail address. Do it personally. But 99% of the other people here (most especially our wonderful admin Hoops who has to clean up after you) don't really give a damn.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 21:49:56 ET
Posted by: Hoops!, it's finally getting colder in CHitown tonight

Hoops!

My focus on our Maxbud was diminimus!

Yah, he's entitled to his opinion and I was just jazzin on him - yah, we all need to sit back and relax, oh and listen!

I'm with you, oh, Master of Dandom Blues

Otherwise, the vibe is this simple: It get's better!

Cool?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 21:25:40 ET
Posted by: Rajah, disruptions n things

hoopsie - You go and Amen. Know that we respect and love you and these people on here are not without the ability to gather and surmise a great many things from what progresses here. The Dandom is not dumb, thank God. Twisted maybe, but not dumb. So transparant drivel and detritus moves us very little, be assured Dear Host.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 21:01:48 ET
Posted by: hoops,

H Gang Premonition....knock it off. You are blowin' the vibe. Max has opinion, whatevah, but this interogation bit is over the top. I don't even want to post if I'm going to be subject to this scrutiny. Fly low and be cool.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 21:01:28 ET
Posted by: ph, livin' in the midwest

Ann, you remind me of my mother more and more with every post.
Go check your email for a little gift.

Check out the 2005 Dalek...!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/06gallery/800/05.jpg
They haven't changed much at all in the last 40 years.

--

Just watched the SD Taxi Cab Confessions:
"Are you reeling in the sheeves?"
"How do you make your lyrics make sense without them making sense?"
LOL. That lady was funnier than Don&Walt.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 20:46:23 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, feel the love

Ann, honey, don't you fret. There's a place in the H-Gang for you...'course you kinda have to be partial to frat house lodging sometimes, but, hey....it's commune-ity, right?

No sad things today...no fights...no bathroom posts. Everyone kiss and make up, now. Kinda seems like old times, no?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 20:40:02 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Q - come to your senses, think of the virtual vacuum in the cyberdome created by your absence from eBay. Let's not be hasty, you're building an archive. I see a Steely Dan Museum in Passaic...


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 20:36:53 ET
Posted by: Ann, Borneo

Wow!!!!

This place has exploded in the 2 days since I read it!

So now I'm feeling even more isolated...in the wrong time zone to have caught the broadcast, even if I could even access it!

Anyone any bright ideas of how I can get to hear anything from Morph at the moment down here in Darkest Borneo????

Paul: Nice one!! I used to watch Dr. Who as a kid....back in the eatly 60s......maybe I should change my posting name to "Darlek"!!!
........or Denise!!

Scottie (where the hell you get that name? Beam me up!!): If I've saved enough...can I tag along for a short while with my Off-Spring?

Chill guys!

Ann


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 20:13:18 ET
Posted by: Q, TPA

Okay DWB, I'll concede on this one...I didn't feel the joke(humor?) on top of the lines", but then I miss a lot of Dan lyrics too...
Brushing the dust off of my caved brain right now. So, let's play

Aannyyywayy,

H-Gang, great stuff.
Seminal for a Donald solo album(although I guess all two of the prior ones were too...). The guitar is the trick here. I am betting that Donald is in a very (relaively)raucous mood on this album!

I believe that we are in for much more in this vein. No info, just that they often release tunes as promos that are ultimately judged to be weaker than others on the album.

I have faith that this will be the case here - if so, we are all in for a very fine time!

I am so stoked for the DF tour, that I kicked myself off of Ebay just to save money for the showS!!!!!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 20:04:58 ET
Posted by: angel,

"The Stroll" just came to my mind. Of course I don't have either song to listen to, but it has that feel, a little bit. In attitude, if nothing else.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 20:02:55 ET
Posted by: H-Gang premonition, NYC

And who quoted this prior to release?

"Maxwebster is, fortunately, editorially WAY OFF!
No, the guitar isn't like East St. Louis - it doesn't try or want to be, and it sounds fresh and fun especially for a DF album.
A totally different groove, and it's definitely not Walter doing the guitar which is already known.

The alto sax part doesn't take you back to FM which in this case is good, but other than that great job Max! "

hmmmm


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 19:51:58 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Geoff - makes sense, the dreaded power chord band gets out of prison...Denise & the Gong Sisters visiting some kind of destructive musical force upon Hinktown?






Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 19:36:11 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Whoooaaaa ...the previously sleeping Chicago Dandom mail list has really lit up since it was posted there about 30 min ago that DF is playing the Chicago Theatre March 18. Still 110 good email addresses from the 2003 tour there.

jim


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 19:23:52 ET
Posted by: moray eel, 8

So, they played it at 12:35pm EST... and about 4:35pm EST... so if I do the math... 8:35pm EST?

The bigger news today was that SD may tour this summer. Donald Fagen participating in two tours in the same year? Bush is right, the rapture is near.

m.e.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 19:21:43 ET
Posted by: Geoff,

Raj,

or, the '5-chord' could the old root/fifth used by Metal bands. But I like the five chord wonder idea. Beatles would be in that class. SD? 50-chord wonders?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 19:16:17 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, .

Almost Gothic - "House of Desire"
Greenbook - "crazy grid of desire"
Springtime - "details of desire"
H-Town - "Song of Desire"

Played H-town in my car. This song is going to really cook on CD!!

Mark in Boston


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 18:53:27 ET
Posted by: Girlfriend, *

Better idea...e-mail your local adult alternative station and ask them to add it to their new music programming. Don't forget to keep us posted when it is!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 18:49:53 ET
Posted by: ph, living in the Midwest

What we should do is flood the station with emails to have an H Gang marathon tomorrow. I'm game. Anything to keep M. C. Hammer off the airwaves....


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 18:43:47 ET
Posted by: NYB, Oh the pain...

Yeah but now what really sucks is that I have to sit through 40 zillion junky songs on the radio waiting for "H-Gang" to be played again!

Mu get out there and use that new found radio influence to get the song played every 15 minutes or so...


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 18:32:01 ET
Posted by: hoops,

I'm talking more about mood and overall feel. I think the song is pretty unique in a lot of the details, etc. But again, it's this fast-paced narrative like "Pixeleen" and it has this certain "feel-good, nostalgia, melancholy" like "Bad Sneaks." It reminds me of them in general but it is a fresh, new song.

jim


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 18:23:17 ET
Posted by: Rajah, ram diss

The ultimate 5 chord band? Musicians made fun of the Brit invasion groups and later the Punk rockers for only knowing three chords so I guess 5 chord bands might be like, Aerosmith, Kansas, Heart, Foreigner?

hoops, where are you getting Pixeleen from in there? Is it Carlock's snappy snare?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 18:21:16 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

You're welcome, Mu.

And definately, the instrumental bridge is 100% pure Fagen with those great chord changes. Probably my favorite bit of the song so far.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 18:16:46 ET
Posted by: Doc µ,

Dan -You Da Man!!

The intro has thing cool thing going on - a little like Tears for Fears Advice for the Young at Heart from Sowing Seeds of Love -a very fine album with Oleta Adams..much better than Songs from the Big Chair

a little like Prefab Sprout too, until that BIG DAN BOTTOM DROPS IN with the class descending chord couplet at 8 sec in

and that cool chord progression at 19-23 sec in

and in the last line of verse

Backround - sounds like the classic Fagen + Zack Sanders tight

oh, damn that sax is good, lots of chord slut stuff going on underneath - very Fagen

big props to Washington and Krantz. sneaky, slick horn chart

PRETTY DAMN GOOD FRIDAY THE 13th!!

Life is Good.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 18:12:11 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Good summary NYB. That's what I think about the singles vs. the album cuts as well.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 18:11:42 ET
Posted by: H Gang, Women in Prison

Donald must have been a fan of Prisoner: Cell Block H.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 18:08:00 ET
Posted by: Is your Hyphen in Tact?,

The H Gang lost their hyphen a long time ago.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 18:06:30 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Even more so...I'm sticking with H Gang reminding me most of "Bad Sneakers" and "Pixeleen." At the same time, it sounds fresh and new.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 18:05:33 ET
Posted by: NYB, last but not least

Okay, I heard the song on the way home in the car...

It's a great song! It's signature Donald Fagen. I wouldn't call it signature Steely Dan, but it's definitely signature Donald Fagen. I see that Donald has decided to move the guitar a bit more up front on this one, which is a good thing (at least I think so). Listening to that wah sound I found myself mouthing the words "Babs and Clean Willy were in love they said...", it's got THAT kind've classic Royal Scam era feel to it. It's a little bit of the old thrown in with a little bit of the new, and it works. This is a really fine freeway driving song, for those days when you're on your way home from work and the traffic is light. A typically well crafted, polished, and glistening Donald Fagen song. Very nice work all around.

Still... there are those soft backup vocals, and you know how I feel about that, but for this particular song it works. An all-around great song, and probably ISN'T one of the really heavy hitters on the album. If you remember, D&W released "The Last Mall" and "Blues Beach" prior to the album release date. These two songs were the weakest songs on EMG, or at least they weren't the strongest songs. "Godwacker", "Lunch With Gina" and "Pixeleen" were the heavy hitters. There's no way Fagen is going to release one of his heavy hitters early, it would be counterproductive. So we can assume that this song is a great song but not the BEST song on the album! Therefore, based on this reasoning one can only assume that "Morph The Cat" is gonna be a knockout when it hits the shelves, and having this song only makes the wait even MORE unbearable...


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 18:00:44 ET
Posted by: DF, Even Closer

Raise Raise ha ha hah Rabitt Ears the only raise you get is from behind.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:59:02 ET
Posted by: ph, second, third, and fourth thoughts

Hmm... after a couple listens and while simultaneously reading the lyrics (thanks KDawg for your compliation), I don't think it's like WASAM at all anymore. Instead, I think its a summation of every band featured on VH1's "Behind the Music". "H Gang" is a band that represents every typical popular music group since the 70s.
Okay, so it's not Hoops' Gang. Damn. I was hoping the song would be about us.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:40:55 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

OK....after listening to the tune again, and to the folks who helped with the lyrics, I think this is about right.

Enjoy!!!

---------

H-Gang

I hear Denise is back on the outside
that's she's got a wicked plan
she's callin' in the Gong sisters again
to form the ultimate five chord band

For eight months now in that freaking cell
she's been knockin' ideas around
now she's good and ready to make a big noise
right here in her own hometown

chorus:
Here comes the h-gang
slammin' into Hinktown
oh you better get off the stage boy
'cause they'll be looking for a showdown

On a moonless night they started off
on a bus called Happy Day
to bring their vision to cities and towns
across the U.S.A.

And in every club and hall they played
the crowd knew every word
even today folks are talkin' about
the incredible sounds they heard

chorus:
Here comes the h-gang
turn on the floodlights
get off the stage son
unless you're ready for a kickfight

Whatever happened to the H-Gang
Some say they were the best
I heard they broke up, Denise got hitched
And she's living in the Mid West.

there's a film that's in production,
the working title, "Song of Desire,"
'bout an orphan girl with this crazy red hair,
and a voice and a dream and a soul on fire

chorus:
Here comes the h-gang
slammin' into Hinktown
oh you better get off the stage boy
'cause they'll be looking for a showdown

chorus:
Here comes the h-gang
slammin' into Hinktown
oh you better get off the stage boy
unless you're looking for a showdown




Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:38:25 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, strungoutonaudiocrack

pH,Dan...I....need....another....fix.....bad...[cough] hep me hep me [snort]


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:28:05 ET
Posted by: ph, YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

Dan sent me the stream....thanks again!

What an amazing song. Lyrically reminds me of WASAM, and instrumentally sounds like if you mixed every SD/DF song together since Aja, you would get H Gang. And then that wah-wah guitar, I don't know where that came from. Pure awesomeness. I think my eyes are watering.
Was that an all male chorus? Haven't heard that in a while, not since Nightfly methinks. I like it.

Oh, I'll be humming the song all day and all weekend. Gonna go listen to it four or five more times now.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:23:05 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

The guitar fade out also reminds me of Haitian Divorce. Carlock never gets to do much on these records so far except the title track of TvN, they devote him totally to the groove, there is a Neo-Motown thing going on but I can't put my finger on it, maybe it's Freddie Washington or that Junior Walker sax solo. What dowes it take...

Welcome back Scotty!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:22:11 ET
Posted by: Mike F., New York

Thanks a million Angel and Hoops! So great to hear the song on this Friday afternoon.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:14:21 ET
Posted by: Her,

http://www.icebergradio.com/node/2119

Donald:

"We're thinking of maybe hooking up in the summer sometime with some concerts, and then we'll, I guess, figure out what we're gonna do next. I was thinking maybe I'd go out in the summer again by myself and maybe towards the end of the summer we'd hook up and do some Steely Dan concerts."


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:12:29 ET
Posted by: Black Cat, meow

well...look what the cat dragged in

uh hunh


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:12:27 ET
Posted by: DWB, Valerian Breeze

Easy Q, can't you read a joke on top of the lines?
It was a compliment even, perhaps you parked your ears too long in that archive of yours so the dust turned your brains (the part that should be tickled to laugh when reading those posts) a little bit around the edge of things. Chill, ok?
At least it made you post in here. So, how's your take on this new Fagen song or did you miss it?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:11:08 ET
Posted by: Scotty, Sydney

Well, its been a looong time since I posted, but I do read up on the goings on here regularly. Hi to the greater Dandom !!

As fate would have it, I stumbled out of bed this morning, had a quick read of the board here, and was JUST in time to hook up to the peak 1 song before H-Gang came on. Its more Dan kama. WOW !!!!!!!! what a tune. The chorus is still stuck in my head. Pity they faded out the guitar work at the end. Can't wait to here the rest of that song and all the rest.

BTW, I'm saving already for an August trip State side if the boys get together for a late summer tour. This time I'll be bringing my son and my new gorgeous lady.

2006 looks like its going to be a great year !!

Cheers,

Scotty


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:10:14 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Mx Webster--thanks again for sharing the buzz. Don't let the bastards get you down.

jim


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:10:07 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

KDawg: More single friendly than Reminds me of a TG structure a bit, but much jazzy chord progression dependent. Better intro than TG and chorus. We don't get that amazing bridge on TG, but the sax + guitar solos really cook. Krantz works better than Wadnius for this kind of song.

Raj: Really nice balance between the instruments. Vocals up front, base just right. Toned down Carlock's snare a bit (that groove is where the EMG sound comes from - but there's more complex arrangements and more of a classic Dan smix meshinbg RS and Aja and Nightfly). Carlock sounds more comfortable than on some of EMG. Freddie Washington on bass - both of them set up a REAL nice groove.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:06:24 ET
Posted by: Q, TPA

DWB- what's on your mind?

You don't even know me and you make references to me publicly?

No, Donald and Walter don't talk to me because, among other generally benign reasons, I don't try to talk to them!

But, yes, if anyone will end up with the "vintage vinyl" copy of Morph, it will likely (hopefully!)be me since I'm the only one who really cares to archive this artwork in all of it's varying forms.That's my gig - archiving. Someday the world will wake up fully to the brilliance and soulful beauty and wit that these two fine men have given to us. Indeed, this art is worth archiving and cataloging - and it's fun!

I do have 2 test pressings of 2VN and they sound sooooo sweet. None of that digital sterility- better than the DVDA.

Alas, there will be no analog version of Morph, I believe.

DWB, get over it(whatever it is...), and enjoy Don's album as I know I will be when it comes out...

See you at the shows!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:06:07 ET
Posted by: max webster,

now some of you can see why i was so excited the other day .... i hope nobody spoils your buzz like mine was by some of the peeps here


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:02:00 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Yeah, it's dirtier than a wah-wah but never devolves into fuzziness, is it some kind of phaser, the guitar sort of comes unraveled by something, very Jimi Hendrix, very trippy.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 17:01:31 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

For those of us who had the luck to hear H Gang....do you think it's one of Fagen's most straight pop tunes? I put this right with Tomorrow's Girls as the most radio friendly tune he has done. I love it!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:58:31 ET
Posted by: Hank Silvers,

Hoops, thanks very much for the Digest bulletin about the stream from the Peak. I heard most of the song here at work. No judgments on it yet, but looking forward still more to Morph in March.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:57:23 ET
Posted by: purring,

Wow. Like being invited into the comfy story-telling area of Donald's brain. He sure knows how to create a nice environment.
Harmon-muted trumpet. Tenor saxophone solo. Don't think it's a straight wah, definitely not a voice box - might be some new fangled filter thingy. Seems more restrained than a classic wah.
Touch of "What a shame..." in opening groove, even some of the melody flow - good thing.
Great story. Damn.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:56:17 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

It's a slicker production than on EMG, those solos are polished and punched in. But it has a harder electric edge than anything on 2vN. The sax solo is swingin.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:55:14 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Totally different and somehow the same. Brilliant. And tasty. And considering the trait we've seen in past years of the single being a totally different beast from the album (the album cuts are usually much much better), I am PUMPED about the rest of the album.


ph, drop me an e-mail


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:55:01 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

mmmmmm I love it even more the second time around. This will kill when I hear it from the cd. This will tide me over though.

And that chorus....slicker than an icy road!!!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:53:52 ET
Posted by: not formerly,

DJ are so flip. Read one of the stories/posts below and you see that DF will be touring solo in March and later this year and on to joining up with Walter for a Steely Dan tour. Which begs the question. H Gang is great but why no buzz about the Steely Dan tour coming up as well?????????


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:51:27 ET
Posted by: df, PEAK

formerly of steelydan as quoted by the DJ?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:51:16 ET
Posted by: Doc µ,

Yes!!!! Awesome intro. Some Tomorrow's Girls funk with Things I Miss the Most chord progression. Nice piano. and indeed KILLER chorus with smooth background singers. Stick's right with ya. Sax and guitar are very, very tasty.

The verse resembles WASAM and TG blues a bit. The last line in each verse is tricky - very Nightly chord stuff there and throughout the tune...more complex under the surface, and Fagen's voice almost pulls that line off - backround singers could sneak in there.

NICE song. I like it at least as much as TG and >> Cousin Dupree, TLM, BB


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:50:27 ET
Posted by: ph, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I can't believe I missed H-Gang! What a fucking crappy day.
Did anybody bother to record the stream?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:49:42 ET
Posted by: John, NYCC

sounds a little like scam chorus sounds like gaucho, no kamakiriad and no nightfly almost sounds like EMG>.

Could be a hit! Triple AAA radio will definitely play it. But Top 40 won't.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:49:21 ET
Posted by: Gretchen , feeling soooo good

Ok, who thinks it's about all of us?
Did I mention I LOVE it?!!!!!!!!!!!!

G


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:47:07 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Great guitar, the solo entrance is very reminiscent of a classic Steely Dan song, it has a nice sharp edge to it, nice freaky effects. I hear a trumpet in there escorting Weiskopf out of his solo, I hear Donald double tracked or echoplexed or whatever and maybe one female voice bleeding in there with him.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:46:48 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

Interesting.....upbeat and straightforward. I love the wah wah guitar...good stuff. Fagen's vocals sounded a little rough at the beginning...but of course that could be due to the compressed audio coming out of my computer speakers. Regardless.....I loved it!!! I want more!!!!

Here comes the H Gang!!!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:46:41 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


I F-ING LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOOOOOVE IT!!

Thats our Donald!

Can't wait for more!!!!!!!!!!!

G


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:46:10 ET
Posted by: angel,

Yeah, caught the wah wah on the guitar this time. Who's playing bass on the tune?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:45:40 ET
Posted by: Joe M,

Fantastic. Cannot wait to hear the rest. God, do I love these guys...


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:45:22 ET
Posted by: Here Comes, The H- Gang

That is a really good song! No doubt!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:45:14 ET
Posted by: hoops,

They mentioned Mu when they played H Gang

"and John ....in College Park, TX"


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:43:39 ET
Posted by: holyfuck,

i said goddamn!!!!!!!!!!!!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:43:12 ET
Posted by: its the single , see wasam-bbeach cousin dupree etc

see wasam-bbeach cousin dupree etc


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:40:10 ET
Posted by: Rajah on the Mend,

Here we go...


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:38:38 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Well, perhaps after Elvis C's Veronica...damn, now my palms are sweating....


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:33:01 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Fagen in this set...maybe next after Tom Petty tune I'd bet


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:31:14 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

Oh man...I came home just in time.....I'm ready....bring it!!!!!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:25:03 ET
Posted by: dunk,

cool


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:19:53 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, turn up the Peak

We just got a plug...new DF coming up in the next set.

I don't think I've called a radio station for about...30 years. ('Course e-mail is way better than sitting with the busy signal in your ear.) Ahhh technology...


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:18:29 ET
Posted by: Joe M,

Tune in to the Peak NOW folks... This next set will contain Fagen's new one. Starts with an SRV tune.

Thanks for the heads up folks!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:17:21 ET
Posted by: angel,

http://www.1071thepeak.com/listen/


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:12:37 ET
Posted by: DEACONBLUE, BRUSSELS

Where thecan i listen the Donald song?

By the way, last i was at a concert of Jamie Cullum.
This is really great stuff.
A great young performer and pianoplayer.
This is future.

But one more time ,where is that bloody H gang of Donald?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:07:29 ET
Posted by: angel, It's so hard to be a saint in the city

Thanks Little Wild One. :-)


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:07:13 ET
Posted by: NYC, NYC

How does one sation get the single but others have not? Any other stations streaming it yet?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 16:00:13 ET
Posted by: DWB, Golden Years Strip

And while waiting, the music ain't bad either! Nostalgia nostalgia.
Hoops, ya might try Q down in Tampa?
He's the one who picks DF and WB's brain before they've even come up with anything new, so it's most likely he's got a vintage vinyl version of this brandnew H Gang...


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 15:56:29 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Thanks LWO

Wish we had an official copy rather than a piece so it could be on Radio Free Dandom. Anyone with Warners out there?

Thanks!

jim


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 15:44:54 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, attention all....addicts

Got this in response to my e-mail, but I think the DJ is Caroline. Hopefully, She Got The News.

Gail:

Jimmy's going to play it again just past 4:30 this afternoon. Thanks
for listening - good tune.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: studio@1071thepeak.com [mailto:studio@1071thepeak.com]
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 12:57 PM
To: The Peak
Subject: Email the Studio Contact Form

Name: Gail
Email: littlewildone00@hotmail.com
Message: We WANT H-GANG!
Could you please advise when the new Donald Fagen single "H-Gang" will
be played next?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 15:39:03 ET
Posted by: hoops ,

I sent out an item to all the Digest readers about The Peak playing H Gang again. In it, I thank you for posting about that, especially Dr µ.


What a dynamite song!

jim


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 15:22:30 ET
Posted by: frank,

recording with realplayer

Go to preferences ''CD''
Choose download media...mp3/wav/real audio ...choose bitrate.

With music streaming go to realplayer tools.
Click record from mic/line in.


‘‘Record’' window appears.


1, select source ''system mixer''
2, name clip
3, press record

Then go to ''adjust recording levels''

Tick stereo mix, close box.


==================================


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 15:19:35 ET
Posted by: happyday, across the usa

with so many online at this time, how come no chat?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 15:10:48 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

That is hard-core, Rag, aye-poppi, but I did manage to hit "record track currently playing" but now I have to try and find it, I doubt it's in there.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 15:09:57 ET
Posted by: FP, ny

Mark- No problem. I can tell you one thing for sure. It sounded a million times better from the radio to the speakers in my car then it did on my crummy computer with it streaming in.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 15:05:04 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, .

I went the primative way and held a mini voice recorder up to my PC speaker (God, I'm like some addict scraping residue out of a vile).

I like H-Gang a lot more than the Blues Beach and Last Mall singles.

FP -- Thanks for the tip this morning. I'm glad I have a long weekend or I would not have got anything done in work today!

Mark in Boston


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 14:57:58 ET
Posted by: SCDAVIS, Beantown

Great Post Jim,,,

This poor radio station really opened up a can of worms with this song. They are going to get bombarded by daily requests... They should just pic a day and play this song over and over.....


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 14:55:14 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, snifflingoutsidetheaudiocrackhouse

F*** the parachute!!

***********************************************

THIS JUST IN!!!


**************************************************

From: studio@1071thepeak.com
Subject: Donald Fagen
Date: January 13, 2006 1:42:20 PM CST
To: xxxx@neo.xxxx.edu

John -

Jimmy Fink will be playing that later this afternoon.

Rob Arrow
The Peak


****************************************************


3PM - 7PM ET - Jimmy Fink

http://www.1071thepeak.com/airstaff/




Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 14:48:30 ET
Posted by: hoops,

I was able to use "Audio Hijack" on about half of it but am missing at least a verse.

When I first heard "Cousin Dupree," "The Last Mall" and "Blues Beach," I had a positive reaction...well, I had to give TLM a second listen before I fell in love. "H Gang" is amazing—I get the same chills that I got when I had my SD epiphany during "My Old School" into "Bodhissatva." Incredible!

I can't say what you guys do off board—not my biz. I'm not sure who scans board like this but with bootlegs,, just like people at Grateful Dead shows, I wouldn't scream "DOSES!?!" in audience. If you are like me, you are going to buy several copies anyways.

Josey wrote earlier:

"Seems like Donaldfagen.com would be ahead of these tidbit announcements we're finding here and there. "

Yes and no. I can't speak for df.com but I know a lot of times, these announcements are set up such that contracts, etc dictate who gets to make announcements. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to imagine those who know unofficially helping us in advance of offiicial word. I have a friend who was director for a 16,000 venue. (No, Steely Dan never played there.) He often knew concert dates well in advance (and even knew how much they were getting paid, if the band required Coke or Pepsi, etc.) but couldn't say anything until another company handling promotion had the clear. Often the performer couldn't say anything either but sometimes other people involved would slip a "note under the door" or just blab in some forum on the internet. So it isn't totally surprising that df.com may not be able to say much. That's why the fan forums are so important to us die hards.

jim


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 14:28:18 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Ger--on--ii--moooo!!!!!!!!!!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 14:20:57 ET
Posted by: DF, Near You

Hey guys follow me off the cliff.

DF


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 14:11:01 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

*&%$**@$* I'm slaving finishing a project and MISSED it! Peak 107.1 in Boston has a decent stream on OSX too. mark and Co - I sent in a request for a replay. Will let you all know if I get an email reply!!

aaaaaaaaarrrrrrgghhhh!!

e uptop send


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 14:08:20 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, jml2621ATneo.tamu.edu

*&%$**@$* I'm slaving finishing a project and MISSED it! Peak 107.1 in Boston has a decent stream on OSX too. mark and Co - I sent in a request for a replay. Will let you all know if I get an email reply!!

aaaaaaaaarrrrrrgghhhh!!

e uptop send


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:58:11 ET
Posted by: HeyMike, Chicago

Missed here too..anyone have it to send??


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:57:02 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, after a half dozen listens...

Well I’d give the tune a B or a B+. It was good but I wasn’t blown away by it. Then again, it was on a stream. I thought the guitar was similar to the sound used by Ivy last year on “Four in the Morning”. There was almost too much narrative and it needed to be more melodic (although I am a melody freak). Not having heard the 8 other tunes I’m curious as to why Reprise picked this as a single. The chorus was really nice, should sound glorious on a nice stereo.

I kind of like the old days in the 70s when suddenly the album was on the shelf in a record store, not much advance word or fanfare. You slapped down your $5, took it home, split the side of the jacket with your thumbnail and sat back for 40 minutes of heaven. Hell, I might go into the wait until March 7 mode. Yeah, right.

Mark in Boston
(not the pisser in LA)


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:43:33 ET
Posted by: lp, streamin too late

what is this peak you speak of - ack, i'm too late!!!!!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:37:08 ET
Posted by: Alkali, California Convention Center

love the wah-wah sound.
it did kind of sound Royal Scamish..
darE i say with a bit of Motown soul melted into it.
the chorus sort of reminds me of "Heard it through the grapevine"
i dig the drumming and guitars but, Don may be pushing the whining too far on this one....although it may have been a poor audio stream.

can't wait to hear it again!
the chorus is still with me....

"Here comes the H-Gang...."

A


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:25:37 ET
Posted by: Ready for a kick fight, in that freaking cell

The song sounds MUCH better on cd, do you think fagen would release anything muffled? Wait til you hear it in 5.1!

Mark: Then why are you here pissing on this messageboard?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:24:58 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, TN

More than being illegal, it would be impolite to do so here, as that is one of the things that hoops has asked us so kindly not to do. We all wanna hear it...

Matt


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:23:26 ET
Posted by: To John,

You can always download morpheus or some p2p and "share" it that way, and then those who actually download it would be the ones at fault. Like "download at your own risk".


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:23:12 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

Even tough its allready been played on a radio station?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:23:08 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

Even tough its allready been played on a radio station?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:19:35 ET
Posted by: ygk, nyc

I would imagine, most definitely so......


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:17:52 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

Would it be considered "illegal" to solicit this song from anyone who recorded it?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:14:10 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, TN

Well, missed the online thing, as I was busy changing a diaper. So it goes. But in the birthday news, March 7th happens to be the day little Emaline (my baby) will turn the big 1. So last year right after her b-day I got the McPartland jazz cd. Cherith (my other daughter) was born Feb 23rd 2000, so of course 2VN was released right after. Funny how far coincidence will carry you. So, really, you liked the song?

Matt


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:04:25 ET
Posted by: ygk, .

yeah, and it would sound like the opening to DTMA, with special effects and reverb........


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:03:58 ET
Posted by: John , NYC

OK, I recorded it and listened to it again...it's growing. Like the guitar solo and sax. Fagen's voice sounds strange...maybe the stream was bad on my end. Sounded muffled.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 13:02:27 ET
Posted by: Mark, LA

Fagen could piss in a bucket and record it and you guys would love it.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:59:30 ET
Posted by: ygk, annoyingtown

did you CONDUCT it?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:58:32 ET
Posted by: ygk, .

and Shame was in 4........c'mon, Raj - ;-)


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:57:51 ET
Posted by: CrellMoset, Atlanta, GA

I MISSED IT. Did anyone record it!?!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:57:48 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

I'm positive.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:56:28 ET
Posted by: YGK, nyc

Raj: are you sure it's not 6/8?

HA!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:54:42 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Oh, WHEEEEEEEEEWWWWW!!!!!!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:53:37 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

It was awesome, thanks you guys, it was funky and smooth...Weiskopf takes the first small solo then later who is doing that great guitar solo after the second chorus, wow, is that Wayne Krantz, it rocks, sounds a little like the guitar on Haitian Divorce without the talkbox effect, it's in moderate 3/4 time, a little more sprightly than What a Shame About Me...smooth choral work but definitely not wimpy!

another partial verse:

there's a film that's in production,
working title, "a song of desire,"
'bout an orphan girl with crazy red hair,
with a voice and a dream and a soul on fire





Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:51:31 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba,

Argh, checked the board at like 9:40 !

Anyone know when it's playing next?

John


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:51:27 ET
Posted by: FP, ny

John- Boring?? That was my second listen today and that was vintage STEELY DAN.

That had to be Herington and his ax sounded so cool.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:51:04 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

Well I agree , no voice box, but hey hes pushing 60 what can you expect..


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:48:18 ET
Posted by: Bob,

No the wah reminds me of "Green Book." No voice box IMHO.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:47:18 ET
Posted by: tilka,

so, did anyone find the wah/filter on the guitar solo to be evocative of East St Louis? and i am just speaking about tone, not playing


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:47:17 ET
Posted by: hoops,

What a song! I'm buggin'!

My first impression? The best of "Bad Sneakers" feel-good longing with the quick pace storytelling of "Pixeleen." Incredible! The part that sticks in my mind is around the guitar solos where it shifts keys. Chills man! WOW!!!!

THANKS so much for letting us know!!

jim


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:45:33 ET
Posted by: tilka,

3rd verse

what ever happened to the h gang
some say that they were the best
i heard they broke up, denise got hitched
and she’s living in the midwest

theres a film that’s in production
working title “song of desire”
about an orphan girl with this crazy red hair
and a voice and a dream and a soul on fire


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:43:44 ET
Posted by: ps, TPS

but the melody lines could have done with a little more variety at times. sorry guys!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:43:09 ET
Posted by: Girlfriend, Blues Beach

Hey, they're ALMOST FAMOUS.

Very nice appeteazer....can't wait to hear more.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:42:34 ET
Posted by: angel,

Yep, definitely all Donald. :-)


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:42:29 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

How can we be expected to wait 2 months for this album now? Im gonna die.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:42:24 ET
Posted by: DWB, Twin Peak Sunset

well, the Pearlcorder's got it, first impressions: Crispy guitars and wah-wah, takes me back to Royal Scam, a lot of funk and spark in it. Yes, fun tune for sure.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:42:10 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

um...seemed kinda soft to me. I know you all will beat me up after this post and I know the Dan's music needs multiple listens but that was smooth jazz material. Kinda boring.


ok now you can kick my ass.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:41:08 ET
Posted by: H- Gang, ROCKS!!

OH MY GOD THAT WAS FUCKING GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:41:01 ET
Posted by: chris @radio, peak

ed mark and joe


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:40:44 ET
Posted by: Alkali, California Convention Center

Whoa!!!!
thanks Ed, Joe and Mark for requesting H-gang!!!!!!!!!

i have to change my pants now...

A


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:37:37 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Beantown

I mean if that wasnt vintage Donald Fagen I dont know what is...


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:32:56 ET
Posted by: Alkali, California Convention Center

Here comes H-Gang, right after Bruce Hornsby!
i think i may have an dockers related accident!!!

A


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:31:39 ET
Posted by: SCDALAK, BEANTOWN

Holy SHIT ITS ON NEXT RIGHT AFTER BRUCE HORNSBY, I JUST WET MYSELF..THANK YOU LORD FOR STREAMING AUDIO


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:30:01 ET
Posted by: FP, ny

I want everyone to thank me after you hear H-gang on 107.1 Fm

Your welcome


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:28:55 ET
Posted by: DWB, Peak Mountain

Thanks Ed Beatty and Mark in Boston.
What timing... it's 18.28 here in the European world!
Robert Palmer's a nice appetizer too!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:25:50 ET
Posted by: My name is Luka,

You are in for a treat. H Gang is the fucking BOMB!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:17:15 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Thanks guys! I will all ears! I'm giidy and got butterflies in my stomach to be hearing it!

jim


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:14:27 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, New Fagen - in 25 minutes!!!

I just got an e-mail from The Peak and they told me they would be playing H-Gang today at 12:35-12:40PM EST.

The link below:


http://www.1071thepeak.com/listen/


Bring it on!!!!


Mark in Boston


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 12:13:58 ET
Posted by: ed, hfs

here you are

Date: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:56 AM
From: The Peak <studio@1071thepeak.com>
To: e.beatty@adelphia.net
Subject: New Fagen
Size: 2 KB

You got it... about 12:35-40. Thanks for listening.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: studio@1071thepeak.com [studio@1071thepeak.com]
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:53 AM
To: The Peak
Subject: Email the Studio Contact Form

Name: ed
Email: e.beatty@adelphiadot.net
Message: Play the NEW DONALD FAGEN








Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 11:59:12 ET
Posted by: Rajah, rev up the motor scooters

Thank you for those links, sounds like there might even be, dare we hope, another Steely Dan record from Donald's coment, or maybe they'll announce they're dissolving Steely Dan, but the odds are with another SD record. MTC, two legs of DF's tour, a Steely Dan tour with maybe Walter's record coming out sometime in there. The mind boggles...

This is what we have so far on H-Gang from your posts, I'm guessing the order of the verses:

I hear Denise is back on the outside
that's she's got a wicked plan
she's calling in the Gong sisters again
to form the ultimate five chord band

For eight months now in that freaking cell
she's been knocking ideas around
now she's good and ready to make a big noise
right here in their own hometown

chorus:
Here comes the h-gang
slammin' into Hinktown
oh you better get offs the stage boy
'cause I'll be looking for a showdown

On a moonless night they started off
on a bus called happy day
to bring their vision to cities and towns
across the usa

And in every club and hall they played
the crowd knew every word
even today folks are talking about
the incredible sounds they heard

chorus:
Here comes the h-gang
turn on the frontlights
get off the stage son
unless you're ready for a kickfight

Whatever happened to the H-Gang
Some say they were the best
I heard they broke up, that Denise got hitched
And she's living in the Mid West.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 11:40:23 ET
Posted by: YGK, ...

pp: cute, you are, so why don't you just grow up? time for your nap.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 11:24:58 ET
Posted by: Peter Pan, Neverland

YGK-- Go back to sleep and we'll wake you up when the tour is over.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 11:19:12 ET
Posted by: John, NYC`

Here is the stream for the station that is playing h gang:

http://www.1071thepeak.com/listen/

Enjoy,

John


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 10:45:42 ET
Posted by: FP, ny

I heard H- Gang on my car radio on my drive into work today on 107 FM Here's what I got.

"Whatever happened to the H-Gang
Some say they were the best
I heard they broke up, that Denise got hitched
And she's living in the Mid West".

That's all I can remember. Sounded AMAZING!!!!!!!!


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 10:36:54 ET
Posted by: YGK, .

What?!! They're doing a tour of Chicago?


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 09:12:39 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

That's Christmas come back to drop off more stuff! Seems like Donaldfagen.com would be ahead of these tidbit announcements we're finding here and there.


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 07:25:55 ET
Posted by: NYB, good God it's all true!

Check it out! Steely Dan summer concert dates?

http://www.icebergradio.com/node/2119


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 05:06:55 ET
Posted by: Moose, On location

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=6580309

ILM, another Donald Fagen going solo thread.
Quite another challenge, to look for other places where they talk about it.
Who knows there'll be more info available, eh?

</div>


Date: Fri, January 13, 2006, 04:11:17 ET
Posted by: Deano,

Launch Radio reported this morning that not only will Fagen tour this March.GET THIS! Don will join up with Walt and they will do SD shows this year.

Hallelujah!


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 23:07:07 ET
Posted by: Eric, Texas

Hi guys,

You can now preorder Morph The Cat via Amazon.com. Looks like the release date is March 7.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000E5N62U/wwwkeithcarlo-20

I assume the amount youre billed is the price as of the ship date, anyone know for sure??

Thanks,
Eric


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 22:00:37 ET
Posted by: if 6 were 9, CHI

15-20 shows is a tour, I'd say


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 19:03:46 ET
Posted by: Drew, San Luis Obispo

I work at a radio station and according to one of the trades (FMQB), Reprise has announced they are going for adds on H-Gang on January 30th. Usually radio gets the single about a week in advance. Not sure if this information has been posted yet.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 18:57:52 ET
Posted by: Chances are your chances are, awfully... subjective?

The Good News: There WILL be a Donald Fagen tour!

The Bad News: The Chicago date is the ONLY DATE!


Hey how many shows does it take to make a "tour" anyway?


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 18:27:30 ET
Posted by: hoops,

http://www.thechicagotheatre.com

If you're coming in, I recommend the Hotel Burnham. A block down State Street and reasonably priced for Downtown Chicago.

jim


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 18:25:36 ET
Posted by: hoops,

The Chicago Theatre is iconic in so many ways. Concerts I have attended there in recent years included Rickie Lee Jones, Van Morrison, Pat Metheny. If you remember when Letterman did his shows from Chicago years ago, it was there. It's on the State Street Subway and on the State/Lake L Station, up the street from Field's.

Awesome venue to see Donald at...5000 seats, max. Danfest venue scoped out -- Govnor's (Had a Vanfest there before the Chicago Van Morrison Show about 2 years ago.)

This is exciting to say the least.

jim


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 16:34:53 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Can't find the Detroit show on ticketmaster, what's the Chicago Theatre like?

Thanks for the H-Gang lyrics. A bus called Happy Day...hunh, like as in "when Jesus walks, oh happy day?" Seems like Donald is taking his long-standing theme of the "big adios," which he has been cultivating since King of the World, to a crescendo. It's Denise and the Gong Sisters touring the USA, playing tunes we all know, like Gabriel blowin that horn at midnight.

Developing...

Aja is not over rated, it's their masterpiece, it hangs together as their most unified and focused work, they searched around for a totally unique musical style and struck paydirt, it's hard as a diamond. Kamakiriad frankly wasn't all that until the DVD-A, then it was like a new record.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 16:19:00 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Affordable means keeping credit card balances to a min.

Definitely will be worth it.

jim


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 16:18:32 ET
Posted by: MF, ;

I don't understand, why "Aja" is so often overrated,
and on the other hand, "Kamakiriad" so often underrated.
...i don t care.

thanks for the verse 2, tilka :-)


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 16:13:01 ET
Posted by: tilka,

verse 2

on a moonless night they started off
on a bus called happy day
to bring their vision to cities and towns
across the usa

and in every club and hall they played
the crowd knew every word
even today folks are talking about
the incredible sounds they heard

here comes the h-gang
turn on the frontlights
get off the stage son
unless you're ready for a kickfight


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 15:54:48 ET
Posted by: Kay Kyser, the sign post up ahead

typo\
weren't
dreaming of a yuppie future
a one and a two and a three


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 15:54:05 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Kay Kyser, definately before my time as well. The vast majority of Don & Walt's work is before my time, actually...


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 15:54:02 ET
Posted by: ph, aloof

For Hoops' sake I hope the tickets are affordable, but
I DONT CARE IF THEY COST TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS I'M GOING TO BE THERE!!!
And it's only about a 3-4 hour drive, for me.

Hey everybody, great discussion today. Really kept me from doing my job. Thanks!!


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 15:52:05 ET
Posted by: Kay Kyser, The College of Musical Knoledge

Beltcher
Two drummers 1973 tour one the finest in Steelydan history.
the majority here were't thought of yet and the rest crawling & dreaming of yuppie future.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 15:51:29 ET
Posted by: Larry, Detroit

Detroit, Fox Theatre March 17.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 15:49:21 ET
Posted by: MF, .

where is my friend lord?


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 15:47:39 ET
Posted by: MF, Chickago

donald and his stepson on stage

http://www.wisselweb.nl/gfb/kleurplaten/donald%20en%20de%20neefjes%20maken%20muziek.gif


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 15:38:51 ET
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST


COOL DOWN FELLOWS; DONALD SOON COME.
REELIN IRIE


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 15:34:11 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Chicago on Saturday March 18th? Reasonable driving distance, on the weekend, and two days after my birthday. Sounds pretty much perfect to me!!!


Bonker Brain, Steely Dan actually used two drummers for a short time in 1974 I believe in some live shows. Both Jim Hodder and Jeff Porcaro were on the drums at once (and it made for a very cool effect).


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 15:32:22 ET
Posted by: hoops,

THANKS FOR THE NEWS, DUNK! Wonder if it will be an XRT show or not. Hope the tix are affordable.

Wow!

jim


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 15:19:33 ET
Posted by: dunk,

Ticketmiser are listing a don show

Sat, 03/18/06
08:00 PM Donald Fagen
The Chicago Theatre
Chicago, IL More Info
on sale:
Sat, 01/21/06 10:00 AM


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 15:19:02 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Gretchen - Battlescar! That's it. I also thought that was such a cool vibe on that tune.

Tilka - thanks for that info clip. Very cool.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 14:58:16 ET
Posted by: tilka,

... Dateline: Toronto, July 28, 1980.
An intense thunderstorm raged outside all day long, while indoors a storm of a different kind was brewing. In the studios of Phase One, two complete sets of equipment crammed the room, and two complete bands filled the air with a Wagnerian tumult, as Max Webster and ourselves united to record a song for their album, called "Battlescar." This could only be a very unique and enjoyable experience, attempting something on such a scale as this, and I think the result will testify to its success. This day also afforded Pye Dubois (Max's lyricist) the opportunity to present us with a song of his, humbly suggesting that it might be suitable for us, if we were interested. Having been long-time admirers of Pye's work, we were indeed interested, and it eventually became "Tom Sawyer," and it is interesting that an identifiable Max influence crept into the music, by way of Pye's lyrical input.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 14:48:26 ET
Posted by: Bonker Brain, Give The Devil His Due

Why did SD go to such trouble to do double drums on the recording of Parker's Band - it's supposed to emaulate the old swing big bands of the 30s/40s that always used double drummers- but abandoned the idea live?


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 14:38:23 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, studying.......

Josey, I loved that song by Max Webster! It was out around January of 1981, and the title of that particular song is "Battlescar." Thanks for the mention of Max Webster as artist, I had forgotten who did it.

Jim, Mike McDonald has free dates after his stint in Atlantic City and since he's going to be in the area around the first week in March, hmmmmmmmm.

My votes for the "A" list for SD: Aja, Gaucho, RS, CTE, Katy, 2VN, PL. "B" CBAT, EMG.

G


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 14:16:37 ET
Posted by: FP,

really


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 14:15:59 ET
Posted by: FP, nyc

Ray, Yes, actually I am. Are you rally blind/dead?


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 14:15:22 ET
Posted by: angel,

PH: No Whovian here, but my Hubby used to be. I lean toward Davidson and Baker just because it seemed we always were watching those 2.

Camarillo is now California State University Channel Islands. I always sing Parker's band, as I pass by. :-)
http://www.csuci.edu/

What I don't understand is why there is no picture of the CD yet. Less then 2 months to release and no one has anything?


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 14:14:48 ET
Posted by: DWB, Brain Tap Shuffle Mountain

http://www.pasadenaweekly.com/coverstory.html

It doesn't require that much imagination to connect Steely Dan to the Simpsons or Matt Groening... it's a weirdly curved/carved universe after all. Especially when Nigey Lennon is the author of this week's Pasadena Weekly coverstory. Jim mentioned Radio Free Dandom, well, that's where i for the first time was introduced to Nigey Lennon and a song from her album Reinventing The Wheel: Brain Tap Shuffle... blending Steely Dan and Frank Zappa, like there's a little Zappa-ish nod on EMG's Greeeen Room. Or was it Godwhacker? Anyway, to take this DF buzz in its widest range, wouldn't it be great to see DF and WB appear in one of those Simpsons episodes or what!!!
Can you imagine Homer trying to strike up a conversation with DF or WB...
Well, anyone game for a fun read, dig in!

Due with Buzz






Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 14:10:59 ET
Posted by: ph,

hahahaha. i had no idea.
i suppose that makes the line
"grooving high or relaxin' at camarillo"
much more meaningful.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 14:02:01 ET
Posted by: Bonker Brain, Give The Devil His Due

One of the kids pointed out that in Asian American literature, like books by Frank Chin and Maxine Hong Kingston, the acronym AJA occurs over and over again, as applied to Asia Americans. It's got to stand for something the way JAP stands for Jewish American Princess, but what is it? Anybody know? This is driving me crazy!

pH - are you a junkie? Camarillo was a detox where Charlie Parker did rehab, that's why he wrote a tune about it.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 14:00:14 ET
Posted by: Jim,

"Pretzel Logic" often gets "Best Steely Dan Album" status from rock and roll critics who don't so much appreciate the increased Jazz influences on on albums that came after. Greg Kot (Chicago Tribune), Rolling Stone, etc call it SD's best.

jim


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 13:37:10 ET
Posted by: ph, relaxin' at camerillo

What does everybody have against Pretzel Logic??
I still give it an A+.

angel: When I was browsing around for Who in the first place, I did see that they had made another season last year, but I probably wont buy/watch it for another a year or two. My goal is to watch every episode/season in order. Perhaps I'm insane, but that's probably why I like the show.
(PS: Who's your favorite Doctor? I've only seen Hartnell but I can't imagine anybody could fit the role better.)

John: Thanks for the link!!


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 13:27:55 ET
Posted by: Ray, Charles

FP, you've got taste like a female -
are you?


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 13:11:36 ET
Posted by: FP, nyc

Mu- Sorry, but I'm taking EMG over 2AN. I agree Katy Lied and Aja are both A+.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 13:02:02 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Jim, a while back they had all-Sinatra and all-Elvis radio stations here in LA. Neither lasted very long and both were on AM. Is RFD regulated by the FCC? Seems outrageous that you can't have a station dedicated to one artist. Or are they just afraid of Steely Dan?


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 12:50:12 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,


The Grades are IN

Can't Buy a Thrill: A-

Countdown to Ecstacy: A

Pretzel Logic: B+

Katy Lied: A+

Royal Scam: A-

Aja: A+

Gaucho: A-

Nightfly: A+

Kamakiriad: B+

11 Tracks of Whack: B

Two Against Nature: A-

Everything Must Go: B+ [although Greenbook, Pixeleen, Lunch with Gina, and title track are A City]

Morph the Cat: 9 Lives for 9 tracks

[Ultradank]: 100% Ital




Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 12:36:36 ET
Posted by: Wink Martindale, Atlanta

Daw gone it Jim you missed your calling, you should have worked for the F.B.I

wink wink


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 12:29:50 ET
Posted by: Jim,

RL's album is good. A track Fagen plays on is featured on Radio Free Dandom...http://www.dandom.com/radiofreedandom. The other radio station sponsored by Dandom.com, RFD2, is temporarily down while we comply with some Federal regulations. RadioFreeDandom--the station features tangentially Steely Dan music while RFD2 primarily features up-and-coming talent from the Greater Dandom. The URL above also has links to other Danfans' internet radio stations as well as a couple of stations that are Dan-friendly.

BTW: Federal Regulations prohibit a station that plays only Steely Dan.

jim


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 12:21:18 ET
Posted by: NEver saw this before, Santa fe

http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1528350


Ricky lawson and don fagen ????


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 12:17:41 ET
Posted by: Sigmund Freud, verrry interestink

Denise could be Josie's evil flipside. They both bring fire but in different ways. The Gong Sisters are somewhat reminicent of the Fates who lay out, measure, and cut the thread of life, gonging and cutting being metaphors for death. The Fates are stern and were born from Necessity, the ultimate necessity being that, necessarily, we must all die:

"If a man endeavours to ... persuade himself to accept of his own accord what needs must befall him, he will have a very reasonable and harmonious life." [Arrian's discourses of Epictetus].

A similar thought occurred to rebellious Prometheus when he was chained in Caucasus:

"I must bear my allotted doom as lightly as I can, knowing that the might of Necessity permits no resistance." [Prometheus from Aeschylus, Prometheus Bound]


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 12:16:58 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

My intern friend at Reprise said that they sent the pre-order info to Amazon.com for Morph today..and low and behold here it is....


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E5N62U/qid=1137086061/sr=11-1/ref=sr_11_1/102-7175643-5245754?n=5174


So I pre-ordered mine today. March 7th of course is the release date.

Regards,

John.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 12:08:04 ET
Posted by: Jim,

Received the Offiicial Michael McDonald Newsletter today. MM is working on an album of new material. He also has tour dates. Would be cool if some of these dates were back to back nights in cities where the pending DF tour will be.

MM's schedule from michaelmcdonald.com

FEBRUARY
02 - Boca Rato, FL - Mizner Park
10 - Roanoke, VA - Roanoke Civic Center

MARCH
03 - Atlantic City, NJ - Resorts International
04 - Atlantic City, NJ - Resorts International
09 - Fayetteville, AR - Walton Arts Center
10 - Little Rock, AR - Robinson Center Hall
11 - Little Rock, AR - Robinson Center Hall
31 - Cerritos, CA - Cerritos Ctr for Perm. Arts

APRIL
01 - Pala, CA - Pala Casino (link)
07 - Kelseyville, CA - Konocti Harbor
08 - Coarsegold, CA - Chukchansi Gold


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 11:41:23 ET
Posted by: angel,

PH: Dr Who is currently being resurrected for another go round. New Doctor and the whole shebang. So I guess the answer would be yes, you're with me Dr. Who. :-)

====================
Still going with the connection between H Gang and Josie, but adding a musical twist. Girl's in prison and when she gets out she goes back to her old town to set it on FYRE! :-)


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 11:34:35 ET
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

A:
kama
gaucho
pretzel logic

B+:
tvn
11tow
royal scam
countdown
cbat

B:
emg
nightfly
aja
katy lied


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 11:13:18 ET
Posted by: ph,

It's going to take actually listening to the song before I can answer those questions... :)

IMAO, the only album I would rate a B is CBAT and CTE gets a B+. The rest get A's. Pretzel, Royal Scam, Aja, and 2vN get A+'s.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 11:01:35 ET
Posted by: Rajah, ps

Ok, let's say it's Hoops' Gang. Who are the Gong Sisters and where is Hinktown, keeping in mind "hink" is a threshing tool.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 10:58:53 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

The Daily Vault rated Wilco and Death Cab for Cutie with all A's, two pretty good bands, Radiohead records also generally got A's. OutKast does well, another good band. A few Beatle records, including Sgt Pepper, got C's. Aja got a C+, blasphemy, off with their heads. It smacks of musical criticism tainted by agism, the inability of one generation to find an appreciation of what has come before, failing to put things into historical perspective. The Rolling Stone does much the same, even going so far as the revision of their own critical history, undermining whatever credibility they might still retain. I still like reading them, if nothing else but to get pissed off.

Here's how I'd rate the nine Steely Dan records:

The A's: Aja, Royal Scam, Countdown to Ecstasy, Gaucho, 2 v N

The B's: Katy Lied, EMG, Can't Buy a Thrill, Pretzel Logic


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 10:23:37 ET
Posted by: ph, are you with me Doctor Who?

After reading the supposed H Gang lyrics, I still contend that "H Gang" stands for "Hoops' Gang".

As for my latest daily abstraction to Steely Dan:
I recently discovered an old British Sci-Fi show called "Doctor Who". I've acquired the first two seasons, and everytime I sit down to watch it, I start humming Doctor Wu. Obsession, perhaps?


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 08:54:49 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Still Sparkin - yeah, Max Webster from Canada. They had a semi-hit tune back around the early 80's which featured Geddy Lee and Neal Peart. I think the name of it was "Feel The Way I Feel" - or that was part of the chorus line anyway. That's the only tune of theirs I was ever familiar with due to a small amount of airplay it used to get.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 08:52:57 ET
Posted by: Rolling Stone, Guide to 2006

Hot Attitude: Betraying trust.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 03:54:26 ET
Posted by: The Real, Truth

Trout- You really need to get laid!


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 02:54:49 ET
Posted by: Randy Elles, Shambhala Tushita

SD has not had a B or C CD for light years. Time to be honest about it.

The truth sometimes hurts.

RE


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 02:40:45 ET
Posted by: moray eel, mega

According to the Daily Vault:

Every album by Megadeath = A

Steely Dan albums = B's and C's

m.e.


Date: Thurs, January 12, 2006, 01:56:29 ET
Posted by: Deano, Vegas

The Daily Vault is featuring Steely Dan this month, publishing reviews of all the studio discs and various other collections and live issues. Stop by and enjoy, kvetch, or whatever...
www.dailyvault.com


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 23:40:13 ET
Posted by: suedave, rain city

After a tough tough day at work, I poured myself a glass or two of red and caught up on the bluebook last night - finally! I had been sooo far behind (Thanksgiving). Looks as if my timing was pretty darned good. Hiya everyone. You provided a good detox, though I could have done a bit less with the bickering. Glad it's a new year! And what a year!!!

I put EMG on in the car tonight, where two of the early songs were the "singles". Not representative of the rest of the CD, IMHO. Those of you who have heard the whole thing...is H-gang a good 'single' from MTC? Good meaning a good indication of the style of the CD I guess. Or what?




Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 23:14:26 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Pisces here as well, March 16th.

The new album would be a welcome early birthday present, needless to say. I wouldn't even mind an early peek at part of it!


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 23:07:44 ET
Posted by: Still Sparkin', HK

What IS this Pisces thing.....I'm March 1st.

Max Webster...how many people know the origins of that name ? 70/80s Toronto rock band led by Kim Mitchell.

And, I'm in the camp that can wait. Been waiting this long...no parcel punching here.


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 22:40:13 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Bithday Karma

Speaking of birthdays:

Daughter Meagan's Birthday:January 13 - 3 days = DF's Bday
Daughter Laura's Birthday: March 10 - 3 days = Morph the Cat


Remember when Don and Walt released EMG early through a Real Player stream? God, I hope DF does the same!!!

Mark in Pats Land





Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 22:34:51 ET
Posted by: So anyway...,

For any interested folks, The Daily Vault is featuring Steely Dan this month, publishing reviews of most of the catalog. See www.dailyvault.com


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 20:48:23 ET
Posted by: Swoozie, just here

Here's another Pisces, March 8 for me too. Early birthday wishes to all you good folks out there. Talk about your sweet present!


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 20:46:15 ET
Posted by: ok i guess my attempts to describe ,

the tune were completely off-base

note that i didnt say the groove sounded like East St Louis, i said the filter on the guitar sounded evocative of that tone

also, i meant that the the intro to the sax solo after the second chorus is reminiscent of the way the sax solo comes in during FM, not in a derivative way, but again just evocative of same.

and lastly, i didn't say i was worried about offending someone, i am just worried about exposing someone whose was trying to be nice to some form of liability

anyways, it sounded fantastic and hoops and other good people will very much enjoy it

sorry if i bugged anyone ...

peace, i'll see you guys after the tune comes out and maybe someone will see some merit in my observations.


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 19:49:11 ET
Posted by: ughhh, The Village

sorry for the multi post! Okay, the very post itself! Nahh....


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 19:47:42 ET
Posted by: hmmm, NYC

Maxwebster is, fortunately, editorially WAY OFF!
No, the guitar isn't like East St. Louis - it doesn't try or want to be, and it sounds fresh and fun especially for a DF album.
A totally different groove, and it's definitely not Walter doing the guitar which is already known.

The alto sax part doesn't take you back to FM which in this case is good, but other than that great job Max!

Regarding whom you might be offending, I would say(hope) that it's certainly not the wanting fans, but the person who played it for you! Assuming they aren't the ones betraying trust- that's what that whole aspect is all about, right?




Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 19:47:41 ET
Posted by: hmmm, NYC

Maxwebster is, fortunately, editorially WAY OFF!
No, the guitar isn't like East St. Louis - it doesn't try or want to be, and it sounds fresh and fun especially for a DF album.
A totally different groove, and it's definitely not Walter doing the guitar which is already known.

The alto sax part doesn't take you back to FM which in this case is good, but other than that great job Max!

Regarding whom you might be offending, I would say(hope) that it's certainly not the wanting fans, but the person who played it for you! Assuming they aren't the ones betraying trust- that's what that whole aspect is all about, right?




Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 19:47:40 ET
Posted by: hmmm, NYC

Maxwebster is, fortunately, editorially WAY OFF!
No, the guitar isn't like East St. Louis - it doesn't try or want to be, and it sounds fresh and fun especially for a DF album.
A totally different groove, and it's definitely not Walter doing the guitar which is already known.

The alto sax part doesn't take you back to FM which in this case is good, but other than that great job Max!

Regarding whom you might be offending, I would say(hope) that it's certainly not the wanting fans, but the person who played it for you! Assuming they aren't the ones betraying trust- that's what that whole aspect is all about, right?




Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 19:45:28 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

I equate listening to clips of an album before it comes out like driving by a car accident.....you really don't want to look, but you do anyway. Even like Christmas....how many have seen presents under the tree and didn't shake a box or feel it to see if it is what you wanted? The excitement kills ya sometimes. Hell, I knew my dad hid presents in the trunk and it bothered me so much that I had to know what I was getting...so I opened up the trunk when he wasn't around to see. Yeah...it ruined the surprise...but sometimes the need to know outweighs playing the waiting game. So my stance is...if there is a clip...I just gotta hear it....makes the wait more bearable to me!!!

Morph me,
KDawg


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 19:16:58 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Fagen Audio Crack House

I'll admit it - I'm a complete audio crack whore when it comes to sneak a peak. Thanks, maxwebster99!


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 19:12:09 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Based on some emails we've also received at the Dandom Digest and Mail List, maxwebster seems pretty dead on. Let's not kill the willingness of some to share by cross examination and cynicism. We want all the news we can get.

jim


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 18:56:46 ET
Posted by: hoops,

While I am still glad to hear the "singles" before hand, I do also connect with the view that I treat the songs differently. For example, on EMG, "Blues Beach" and "Last Mall" were out in advance and somehow they seem like the prequel to the album. I also went through a phase when EMG came out where I would flip past those two since I wanted to hear the "newer" tracks. Ditto for "Cousing Dupree" and 2vN. At the same time, it used to be with an album like "Pretzel Logic" I would play the hell out of "Rikki" and then move on to less radio-played songs. But that was back then. Today I play all the tracks the same. I bet in a few years I will do the same with EMG and I already do with 2vN.

jim


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 18:54:44 ET
Posted by: The Professor, ahead of the class

Or it could be complete bullshit?


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 17:31:41 ET
Posted by: TJ, DK

But for sure max webstes description is absolutely priceless, as it just builds expectations!


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 17:30:32 ET
Posted by: Girlfriend, *

I'm learning how to meditate
so far, so good.


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 17:18:17 ET
Posted by: TJ, DK

Am I the only one who actually would prefer not to hear anything from the new album, before i get to hear it all? I think it creates some sort of unbalance if you kbow a song or just part of a song in advance. I like it all to be fresh, and be ranked equally in your mind when you put the cd on the first time.

Of course I wont be able to keep my hands of H-gang if it's available...


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 17:18:04 ET
Posted by: Dearest Real Rajah, Time to take your dirty rag trailing behind you

in to the dry cleaners. Seems your turban has made it into the toilet bowl one too many times. Seems to happen everytime you slip into Xanax town.


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 17:03:13 ET
Posted by: Hick or Hink?, Hinktown

Hinktown? I thoughtI heard Barrytown.


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 16:56:03 ET
Posted by: The Real Rajah, my doppleganger

Not content with the stalking of the Rajah, he/she or it is now using my moniker once more. Knock yourself out, sunshine, you're livin large now.

Gong Sisters? There's a Chinese guy, maybe he's Australian, named Gong who's been in jail in China for starting some unsanctioned religious sect over there, he got a lot of Western press a couple years ago and his two daughters did a lot of interviews.


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 16:48:47 ET
Posted by: Bob,

http://top40-charts.com/news.php?nid=19843

Al Schmitt will be honored with The Academy's Trustees Award during the Grammys.

Al Schmitt - This respected and hard-working engineer's career has spanned more than four decades. In that time he has earned 15 GRAMMY Awards and worked on more than 150 gold and platinum albums. In 1997, he was inducted into the Technical Excellence and Creativity Awards Hall of Fame, and he also has served on The Recording Academy's National Board of Trustees. Schmitt has worked and collaborated with some of the most recognized and notable artists in the music business, including George Benson, Natalie Cole, Steely Dan, Diana Krall and Frank Sinatra among others.


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 15:42:12 ET
Posted by: max webster,

now that hoops is here i feel a bit safer:

there is a cool alto solo after the second chorus whose beginning brings you right back to FM

this leads into a guitar solo through a wah (or some kind of filter)that sounds ALOT like walter's playing.... at points, i remember thinking that the tone was evocative of East St Louis Toodleoo

4 hours later and the chorus hook is still in my head :):)


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 15:34:09 ET
Posted by: hoops,

maxwebster, gretchen, and plenty of others,

THANK YOU!

This is very exciting! Feel the buzz...feel the love :-)

jim


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 15:33:34 ET
Posted by: clicking, df.com

and getting nada

hmmmmmm


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 15:11:18 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

Here it is... IT is apparently ready to go: H-Gang >>>>


http://zfmq.fimc.net/Article.asp?id=16774


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 15:07:10 ET
Posted by: maxwebster,


i won't kid you ... i am really nervous about posting here now


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 14:59:41 ET
Posted by: Happy time,

Thanks maxwebster.
It's great even just reading the lyrics and the little intro description.
Guitar solo? Keyboard solo?


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 14:16:11 ET
Posted by: Security Joan,

So, Maxwebster - What's it sound like? Anything we've heard? Comparable to 2vN, EMG, Kama or Nitefly? Would love to hear more details.


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 14:07:58 ET
Posted by: maxwebster99,


i didn't post the info as a "look what i heard that you guys can't", i just got overwhelmed with excitement .... and i DEFINTELY don't want to compromise a person who was just helping out someone whose #1 musical hero of all time is DF...

sorry if this upsets people.


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 13:59:08 ET
Posted by: angel,

Anyone else see Josie (take 2) in those lyrics?


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 13:41:38 ET
Posted by: maxwebster99,

hey .... i don't want to get anybody in trouble

i just heard the one song

i will defintely be purchasing it when available


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 13:28:56 ET
Posted by: DF Police, NY, NY

Did you hear the entire album or just the one tune? Was it from a disc or a broadcast?

By the way, it's "Gong Sisters" and "Hinktown".

And, yes, it is awesome.


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 13:26:44 ET
Posted by: Alkali, California Convention Center

Oops, i meant "H-Gang"
i'm so excited!

Gretchen, love the Oakdale theater in Walingford, atleast thats what it was called when i saw Eddie Murphy there.
i hear it's bigger and less intimate now.
it used to have a revolving stage and not a bad seat in the house.
The band that played before he came on was this sort of new wave band who's name escapes me.

A


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 13:12:01 ET
Posted by: Alkali, California Convention Center

Well, I'm in Beautiful San Francisco
i'ts over cast and lousy.
this is my second trip here this year, what a nice town.
i just heard the news from WEBBER99? how can i get "H-Town"?
i'm dying to hear it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

please, please, please!!! I needs my H fix!

A

A


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 13:08:29 ET
Posted by: Reminds me, of the TV Show

Prisoner Cell Block H. Related?


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 12:42:35 ET
Posted by: maxwebster99,

got it!!!

half time intro for 4 bars
wah guitar lick leads into a blues beach-y groove

sounds awesome !!!!!!!!!

i hear denise is back on the outside
that's she's got a wicked plan
she's calling in the gone sisters again
to form the ultimate five chord band

for eight months now in that freaking cell
she's been knocking ideas around
now she's good and ready to make a big noise
right here in their own hometown

chorus:
here comes the h-gang
slammin' in a hick town
oh you better get offs the stage boy
'cause i'll be looking for a showdown


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 12:00:58 ET
Posted by: Gretchen,

Actually for those coming from NYC or CT area to Westbury this may be a good alternative:
BY TRAIN
Take the Long Island Railroad from Penn Station, NY to the Westbury Station followed by a short cab ride to the theater. For train times, call (516) 822-LIRR.
Then back to NY for more Donald. Ok, I'm getting ahead of myself, but we do need to plan.

G


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 11:53:58 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, Neptune

Hey, I'm a Pisces too, 2/20 sharing a birthday with Walter. Nothing fishy about that.

I'm wondering if perhaps Donald will play the Oakdale Theatre in Wallingford, CT. SD played it in 04, it's a smaller, cozy venue that would be perfect for Donald and co.

G


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 11:33:09 ET
Posted by: Linda Goodman, Venus Rising

There sure are a lot of Pisces in this group. Do you smell something fishy?


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 11:05:42 ET
Posted by: HeyMike, mr chows

Raj you're cracking me up here!

My B-day is March 8 (58 shopping days left) Sweet present indeed!


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 10:58:40 ET
Posted by: SCDALAK, Beantown

I cant believe the language and hotsile profantity here, Jim is sure to levy disciplinary action.


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 10:53:29 ET
Posted by: h-gang will apparently be available,

on Jan 24th for digital purchase


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 09:53:22 ET
Posted by: i'm getting to hear h-gang in about 2 hours!!!,


Happy days are here again
The skies above are clear again
So let's sing a song of cheer again
Happy days are here again

!!!!!!!!!


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 05:05:35 ET
Posted by: Alkali, almost at JFK

I'm on my way to the airport, checked my e-mails and thought i'd check into the blue to see whats new.

so March 7th, my birthdays on the 9th...it doesn't get better than that!

Meow
A


Date: Wed, January 11, 2006, 04:44:18 ET
Posted by: Job,



Mazvel Towels Donny Boy


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 22:57:15 ET
Posted by: Best Wishes,

Er, uh... Happy Birthday Donald?


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 21:51:23 ET
Posted by: ph,

NYB, Though it would REALLY SUCK to have to wait until March 7th for Morph, that's pretty cool that its planned release is on your birthday. EMG was released the day I turned 16...too bad I didn't even know who Steely Dan was then!


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 20:57:22 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Go fuck yourself, Marjorie, dick face cunt.


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 20:27:17 ET
Posted by: Actually, the Birthday Wishes are Here,

http://www.writingaffairs.com/mizar5net/index.php?cat=8


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 20:20:59 ET
Posted by: Did you notice?, NYC

That DWB consantly keeps trying to plug WB (or the Steely Dan website, for God's sake) right in the midst of Donald's album rollout seems hard to figure out (?)

Didn't notice a "Happy B'Day" to Donald from DWB.

Do you have a personal agenda DWB?

This is Donald's time in the sun. He is entitled, isn't he?




Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 19:48:08 ET
Posted by: NYB,

I believe Westbury Music Fair changed it's name a year or so ago. I believe it's now called "North Fork Theater at Westbury". Here's a link to thier website...

http://www.musicfair.com/

Another great venue for a Fagen concert would be The Bushnell Performing Arts Center in Hartford, Connecticut. I saw John Hiatt and Lyle Lovett there last year and the place was beautiful. What a great venue for a Fagen concert. I would definetly make the drive up if Donald Player there. Here's a link to thier website also...

http://www.bushnell.org/


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 19:37:30 ET
Posted by: Hey there pipi head, don't encourage the Raj

He will be at a cub scout meeting that day looking for fairies and nature spirits in the woods while bent over a log interviewing all day.


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 19:32:20 ET
Posted by: Pippi, still mapquest

Rajah, it looks like about a 36 mile drive from Port Jeff to Westbury.........looks like an overnight trip. The fun never ends!!!
I'll pack the Pathfinder........

P


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 19:29:27 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, mapquest.com

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DONALD...........your fans love you and wish you many years of health and success. You and your music have been an inspiration and a great comfort to many of us for years.
Can't wait to hear Morph.....it has to be delicious, like all your other work!

G


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 18:47:47 ET
Posted by: Beacon Theatre, Rumblings

Soon.


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 18:36:27 ET
Posted by: Rajah , hold that colonoscopy

deaconblue - try the evil doers' website: www.ticketmaster.com


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 18:14:28 ET
Posted by: deaconblue, Brussels

I am a SD die hard fan since 1980.I saw Donald and Walter two times alive (1996 & 2000). So i can tell you the way i was disapointning that our boys did not come in 2003 with their EMG tour.
Now that i know that Donalds third solo album is coming soon i am wild enthousiast and hope that he will come solo here in Europe.
Yesterday i told my wife that no matters what happens i will go to the states to pick up some Fagens concerts.She answered me that it will means the divorce.
My wife is from Cuba, so i put the headphones on her ears and put The Goodbye Look do the rest.Now she have the intention to go with me to the USA.She's yet a Fagen fan.
Is there someone who can tell how i can procurate me tickets for USA concerts?
In the meantime we're still waiting for Morph the Cat.


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 18:12:51 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

How far is it from Clinton, CT to Westbury? Is this a Bridgeport Ferry trip?


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 18:09:47 ET
Posted by: NYB, somebody pinch me

Wow, first I hear that Morph The Cat is being released on my birthday (March 7th) and now this? Am I really sure that this is MY life I'm living? This kinda thing NEVER happens to me!

Westbury Music Fair is like 10 minutes from where I live. You absolutely KNOW I'll be there! Even if it is just to yell "Play Freebird!" up at the stage every once in a while. LOL!

:)


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 17:47:32 ET
Posted by: angel,

Or should that be
Third Time's a Charm

-----------------
Hey PH: I finally highlighted Walter's web page and saw the "hidden" message. Very cool that you found that.


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 17:42:30 ET
Posted by: angel,

Third Times a Charm


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 17:33:00 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Sling That Cat Tour


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 16:51:32 ET
Posted by: ygk, .

On Meth and Spying

Walls Closing In Tour

Did I Forget Something?

Don't Clip Me Tour

Pet It Tour

No More Allergies


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 16:40:44 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Citizen Cane

Fear and Loathing All By Myself

Fear the Reaper, Be the Reaper

Zombie See, Zombie Do

Flog the Imperfection

Ray and Me


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 16:30:22 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

I like it, or, "The Road Not Taken Tour."

How about, "Boomers Go Bust?"


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 16:18:21 ET
Posted by: downfall, @ageneration.com

Downfall Of A Generation ...

THE NAME OF THE TOUR?


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 14:59:10 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

...and that's where the similarities end.

The rumors are flying fast and furious now...stand back, this thing's gonna blow.


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 14:54:33 ET
Posted by: HeyMike, the chrysler

Shalom Donald

Same age as Dubya!


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 14:02:45 ET
Posted by: hoops,

DWB, others

Look at the Blue from around August as well as the Dandom Digest (if you have it--if not email and I will send it) and I talk about the Krishna Das CD including a review of sorts. Best place to buy it is Borders since they have a special bonus DVD movie to give you background info, in case you need it. Good topic...thanks for bringing it up.

jim


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 13:53:13 ET
Posted by: His Lordship To Be, Oops

Looking back, I realised that one comment was posted BY fife and mr.sam (whoever he may be) and does not refer TO fife and mr.sam
Just thought I'd admit my stupidity one more time.

Woops...


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 13:51:01 ET
Posted by: His Lordship To Be, Worldlywise, I Realize, That Everybodys Crazy...Am I myself Or Just Another Freak?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DONALD!

Not to mention fife, mr.sam and the countless millions who share a birthday with the great guy.

Keep on groovin...


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 13:42:27 ET
Posted by: John, nYc

Damn, I will be in FLA in March. Hopefully he will come back to NYC> or do more shows later in the tour. I am pissed!!!!!


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 13:40:31 ET
Posted by: John, nyc

Yeah Bob, Taxicab was done as a link through the reprise website which I think was quite unique and a good way to maybe introduce people who may be unfamiliar with Steely. I'm sure that it wasn't cheap to produce. It seemed very well done.

Ciao,

John


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 13:37:45 ET
Posted by: DWB, Everyone's Gone to the Fair

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/173/story_17372_1.html

http://www.puremusic.com/61krishna1.html

Good DF news, by all means!
Did some poking around and even though it's not directly linked to the current musical wherabouts of Walter Becker, I do wonder if anyone did purchase Krishna Das' "All One" since it's been co-produced by WB... Above are links to some samples and a fine interview by PureMusic editor Frank Goodman who, by the way, is a huge Steely Dan fan as well...

Long Island will be morphing away on March 3rd...

Nigey Lennon, John Tabacco, YGK, LisaG, NYB... they'll probably BE there, right?


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 12:28:55 ET
Posted by: hoops,

That's great news, "BREAKING" and John and others.

Birthday wishes (in spirit) to DF!

jim


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 12:14:35 ET
Posted by: BREAKING NEWS!, Long Island, NY

I friend of mine just called and said Fagen is playing The Westbury Music Fair out in Long Island on Friday, March 3rd. He works for Northfork Bank which is the new(name)sponsor of the venue.


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 12:14:19 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

Sorry for posting soo much but this will be my last for a while.

Just found out from my friend at Reprise that there will be two singles "h gang" for Adult alternative stations and another one which he is looking into for smoothjazz.

No word on what the cover looks like or how it sounds because he is basically an intern and he has to ask higher ups about what is going on. He said it should be anyday now with respect to pre-order info, singles etc.. because usually they start promotion, and logistical stuff 2 months before. Unless you are the eagles then they throw all of their weight behind every project because of the $$$$$$$$$ they bring in regardless of whether or not it is a good product.

Rock on,
JOHN


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 12:06:58 ET
Posted by: John, nyc

When morph has a single it will be listed here:


http://triplearadio.com/adds/


Date: Tue, January 10, 2006,  ET
Posted by: The Loyal Dandom, On All Continents



Happy Birthday, Donald Fagen!





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[ Cake courtesy of Boston Rag & hoops ]


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 11:43:57 ET
Posted by: Bob,

Taxi Cab Confessions was first released through sd.com and the reprise websites. It was in installments as I seem to recall, and they ended in May. That, for example, is how we first heard an excerpt of the title track from EMG.


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 11:43:06 ET
Posted by: Rajah, L.A.

That is huge news. These birthdays are piling up.


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 11:33:59 ET
Posted by: FP, NYC

John,
I thought the only way to get Taxi Cab Confessions was to buy EMG? How is that a promotion? I thought a promotion was intended to sell a record? So you had to buy the record to see the promotion? I'm confused. I'm I wrong?


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 11:21:51 ET
Posted by: John, nyc

FP, I said not to the extent because Reprise did do a rather large campaign with respect to Taxicab Confessions, and their own streaming video to that site etc.. That was rather large for a 70's band that hasn't been around prior to TVN for 20 years. So EMG I thought was rather unique and the marketing was done well. IT was Target marketing rather than waste money on advertising to people who will never buy it. Regards, john


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 10:40:32 ET
Posted by: Bob,

Link to a story that obviously is based on the Rolling Stone Austin Scaggs column but an SD-related link nonetheless.

http://www.nilesstar.com/articles/2006/01/09/columnists/ndcolumn01.txt


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 10:28:44 ET
Posted by: duncan, UK

the domaign name for MTC is also still available.

quiet a handy marketing tool to own you would think


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 10:08:00 ET
Posted by: Mike F., New York

I stopped in at Tower Records and asked if they had any information about the release date for the album or a single and they had absolutely no information, not even the title in the computer. Am I wrong that that seems unusual, given it is supposedly imminent?


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 10:05:51 ET
Posted by: fife, baltimore,eh

Happy Birthday Donald!
Fife and Mr.Sam


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 08:15:39 ET
Posted by: Listen Carefully, A One Time Revelation

Be listening to Gary Walker on Jazz 88 WBGO Wed morning 6-9AM EST. This station streams on the web - no excuses.


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 06:45:00 ET
Posted by: NYB,

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DONALD!

Thanks for all the fine music you've given us all these years. Everyone's looking forward to Morph The Cat and your solo tour too! Have a great birthday Donald, you deserve it!

Bill


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 05:03:48 ET
Posted by: Jaco, UK

Hey music lovers,


I came across this site the other day. www.pandora.com.

Basically if you type in an artist or band you like - I've already tried Steely Dan, Brad Paisely and Morrissey - it plays some of their tunes as well as artists and groups in a similar vein. It's like an online radio station. I discovered some quite interesting bands not dissimilar from SD.

Enjoy!


Regards



Jaco


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 01:29:37 ET
Posted by: moray eel, d

Happy Birthday, df.

The world needs great art, now more than ever.

m.e.


Date: Tues, January 10, 2006, 00:39:37 ET
Posted by: The Loyal Fandom, here, there and everywhere

Happy Birthday, Mr. Fagen! May 2006 be your best year yet!


Date: Mon, January 09, 2006, 22:38:05 ET
Posted by: echoes from the future, the sign post up ahead

Me "what about you? wait till the heats off" you wouldn't even have your casino without me" what the fuck happend to you walking around in that bath robe like John Barreymore. like that culoo Rajah.


Date: Mon, January 09, 2006, 17:52:47 ET
Posted by: DWB, SD.COM

it's a trip to dive into those SD.COM archives... March 17th it'll be online for ten years...


Date: Mon, January 09, 2006, 17:28:32 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

He'd rather not be a cog in the TV machine, we know. But he did say he'd come to terms with being a performer in one of those pre-release blurbs. It seems incomprehensible that he would not consent to some TV appearances.


Date: Mon, January 09, 2006, 15:56:00 ET
Posted by: Ghostly Feline, Flying High

Donald and Walter sabotaged the marketing of EMG. They told the record company that the refused to go on television to promote the album. As a result, the record company killed the EMG promotion budget and refused to lobby for Grammy nominations for the album. No wonder Reprise is playing things cautiously on promoting MTC.


Date: Mon, January 09, 2006, 15:52:14 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

11 Tracks of Whack
Walter Becker


Amazon.com Sales Rank:
Today: #11,246 in Music
Yesterday: #61,055 in Music

How can an album jump 50,000 spots in one day? Sumthin' fishy me thinks!!!


Date: Mon, January 09, 2006, 15:40:17 ET
Posted by: FP, NYC

John,
You say "not to the extent of EMG"? I guess the people in charge of promo over at Reprise forgot that their was no "marketing campaign" for EMG. If it's less for Morph DF is in big trouble!


Date: Mon, January 09, 2006, 15:31:30 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

Also, look at the rank of 11 tracks of whack yesterday vs. today:


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002L2L/qid=1136838577/sr=8-10/ref=pd_bbs_10/102-4863676-6260104?n=507846&s=music&v=glanceay


Date: Mon, January 09, 2006, 15:28:09 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

My intern at reprise said that they are planning a "DECENT" marketing campaign behind Morph. Not to the extent of EMG but, because of the tour they are going to do more in terms of the internet, and radio. He also heard something bizarre with respect to radio airplay in that they were going to push for differant types of stations other than Triple AAA, and smooth Jazz. More along the lines of TOP 40. Sounds interesting.......Regards, John.


Date: Mon, January 09, 2006, 10:47:24 ET
Posted by: hoops,

TJ (and to whomever else needs a recap)

Thanks for allowing us to revisit the subject: Yes, there are much more technologically advanced and protected software that could be used for this board. In fact, I use them for some other topics I run discussion boards for. The script for this board is based on code more than 14 years old-ancient.

However, the regulars here prefer no password and in fact, posting declines when there is a password and all we hear from are a hand full of regulars. I'm willing to go through the extra trouble of having to take out the spam for that reason or so other can post good info anonymously if they need to. The only thing I ask is your patience when, like this weekend, I was sick with the flu and can't remove spam and also I ask that you not allude to spam in your posts. If collectively, as a group, most of us have changed their mind and prefer passwords to post and demonstrate that posting won't suffer, then I am open to the other forum formats that are available.

In short, there are technologically more advanced forums that could be used, but the fans have spoken that this is what they prefer. I agree to take down spam in support of that group preference in exchange for the group ignorning and not referring to spam in their own posts. Please contact me if you think there is a shift in this preference.

THANKS!


jim


Date: Mon, January 09, 2006, 10:32:06 ET
Posted by: hoops,

Hey T.J.—

Could you email me? Your email wasin't in the post. Much appreciated.

Sincerely,

jim


Date: Mon, January 09, 2006, 10:35:52 ET
Posted by: T J, DK

Hmm, what the hell happened to this place? Jim, isn't it possible to make a system with a signin name and password or something similar?

Even though I don't post a lot, I like to read the stuff you great people put up. Lately, that joy has been interrupted with all that damn spam!!

Only been a DanFan for 10 years I never thought I would experience the release of a Donald solo album (or any Steely Dan album for that matter). Just can't wait!


Date: Sun, January 08, 2006, 21:59:05 ET
Posted by: NYTimes, new buzz on cats


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/06/science/06cats.html


Date: Sun, January 08, 2006, 21:56:27 ET
Posted by: moray eel, wi

No new info, but now on wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morph_the_Cat

m.e.


Date: Sun, January 08, 2006, 10:58:32 ET
Posted by: Morp, in the Bright Nightgown

http://www.writingaffairs.com/mizar5net/index.php?p=253

This was already posted by Per Gunnar Eriksson -from the Swedish RadioDupree- in the Steely Dan forums, but for those who don’t frequent the Blue and Yellow and are interested in what Donald Fagen has to say about his new album (thanks to PGE for sending it in):

Donald Fagen’s Morph The Cat is just your average soulful and sexy masterpiece about love, death and homeland defense. “There’s nothing sexier than the Apocalypse,†Fagen explains helpfully. “I suppose you could call this album Apocalypse Wow. The darkly beautiful third solo effort from Fagen – the longtime co-leader of Steely Dan – follows 1981’s classic The Nightfly and 1993’s acclaimed Kamakiriad, and represents the latest installment in what now appears to be a powerful and at times deeply personal trilogy. “The Nightfly is sort of looking from the standpoint of youth, “Fagen explains. “Kamakiriad would be more about midlife. This new one is about endings really. So in a way this really has become a sort of trilogy. In fact, there are plans to put all three albums out in a box where they belong.â€

Along with his recording and touring with the reconstituted Steely Dan over the past decade, the inspired Morph The Cat offers the latest evidence that Fagen – whose long bout with writer’s block ate up much of the Eighties – has become some sort of late-blooming workhorse. How does Fagen explain his productivity of late? “I don’t know – marriage?†offers Fagen who married singer-songwriter Libby Titus in 1993. “Marriage is good, but I think I’ve actually been fairly consistent except for that spell in the Eighties. Other than that time, I’ve either been recording or touring pretty solidly. And I’m always writing – I have a lot of cassettes in a box with ideas.â€

The material that Fagen wrote for Morph The Cat goes back a number of years, but the project crystallized in the past two years as he began to ponder life and death issues in a new way. “I’m starting to get older, and began to think about mortality a little more,†says Fagen. “My mother died in 2003 and that was a big shock. When your parents start to die off, that’s going to be a revelation. So for me, this album – although it might sound quite cheery – is really talking a lot about death.â€

On first impression, for instance, the appearance of the album’s title character “Morph The Cat†might sound like some adorable feline visitation. Yet by the time this characteristically groovy and jazzy title tune reprises at the end of the album – following the vaguely frightening “Mary Shut The Garden Door†– it becomes clear Morph might be more Trojan Horse than just some warm and fuzzy pussy. “Yeah,†Fagen says by way of confirmation, “Morph is only fuzzy on first impression.†In his liner notes, Fagen describes the infectious song’s storyline thusly: “A vast, ghostly cat-thing descends on New York City, bestowing on its citizens a kind of ecstasy.â€

Fagen reveals here that “Mary Shut The Garden Door†– with its hints of “War of The Worldsâ€-type attack – was in fact inspired by another different though still scary invasion. “Actually I wrote that one right after the Republican Convention came to Manhattan,†he recalls. “I’d much rather be fighting aliens – although there are some similarities. I think it’s safe to say that my fears at the time were borne out to the letter.â€

This potent combination of dark thoughts and upbeat tunes is nothing new for Fagen. “Walter Becker and I had that plan from the beginning,†Fagen says of his gifted Steely Dan co-conspirator. “It’s worked pretty well for three decades, so there’s no point in stopping now.†By the same token, the man who made bomb shelters sexy with The Nightfly’s “New Frontier†now brings a newfound sexual heat to the airport pat-down on another gem, “Security Joan.†For Fagen, “Security is such a mortifying and monotonous experience that you have to try and distract yourself somehow.â€

Fagen has no problem if Morph The Cat resonates with our troubled and troubling times. “I don’t think you can escape the environment we live in now, and if Steely Dan has survived – and I have survived as a solo artist – it’s partly because we’ve reflected what’s going on around us. We’ve always copped to getting older and not tried to preserve any false rock & roll youth.â€

Indeed, another of Morph The Cat’s highlights is a salute of sorts to nesting called “The Great Pagoda of Funn.†As Fagen recalls, “I was trying to come up with something that sounded exotic and yet safe at the same time. When you have a lover and build a relationship that seems safe, you feel you like you have a kind of edifice separating you from the horrors of the world. That’s the image I came up with. And I like the “Funn†spelled with two n’s. It has something of Gilbert & Sullivan about it – like something left over from “The Mikado.†That one is sort of Bogus Oriental. And there’s nothing better than Bogus Oriental.â€

One more standout is “It’s What I Do,†a song that features the ghost of the late great Ray Charles in a major role. “Actually I had that tune for awhile,†says Fagen. “I think I didn’t accept myself as a performer until very recently. I always thought I had this sort of fake job. Like a lot of people of my generation, I didn’t quite sink into my actual profession, so it was difficult for me to take myself seriously in any given role. So I had this song that concerned itself with that concept. Then when Ray Charles died, I realized it would be much better if I addressed it to Ray Charles rather than just have it be about me because he was such a great role model. So that one’s really a younger version of myself addressing the ghost of Ray Charles.â€

Musically, Morph The Cat blends jazz, soul and other musical influences – not unlike Brother Ray once did – with extended grooves and ever changing textures and a sort of musical ambition rarely heard anymore – think Aja set in current day Manhattan. “I like it when songs develop in some way and four minutes isn’t usually enough time for something to develop musically usually,†says Fagen. “I’m still kind of plugged into the Duke Ellington model – something akin to classical music – where you start with something, you develop it a little bit and stick with it. And when you get a groove going, time flies.â€

Written and arranged by Fagen with engineering help by Elliot Scheiner, Morph The Cat features some familiar names among its musicians. “The players here are people who Walter and I have been working with for a while,†says Fagen. “When we started touring again in the Nineties, we began building a band again. Most of the players on the record are the people we ended up with after going through various players through the Nineties and now into the Twenty-First Century.â€
Fagen says he has no concern about releasing Morph The Cat at a time when the music industry and the market seem as uncertain as the world itself. “I operate under Seventies rules no matter what time it is,†Fagen explains. “It’s a contract I have with my mind. I just keep forging on no matter what and reality doesn’t have much to do with it.â€
(WB/Reprise Records)



Date: Sun, January 08, 2006, 10:24:46 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Hindi I really like, honey.


Date: Sun, January 08, 2006, 10:10:48 ET
Posted by: fife, baltimore,eh

Yesterday as I was sitting at our local SPCA waiting to adopt the newest member of our family, a lovely orange and grey tabby feline with beautiful pale green eyes, I noticed a baby book of names. I knew I was not going to be calling her Morph, it would just be too cliche, but I also knew that I didn't like her cage name, Gengi. So I'm flipping through this book and I look up Aja thinking it wouldn't be in there. Well it was:
Aja-Hindi
A goat
Well I knew then I had her name, Aja.
I wonder if the boys were aware that they had named one of their best selling albums Goat?


Date: Sun, January 08, 2006, 10:07:15 ET
Posted by: Rajah, don't bother askin'

Everybody reads the Blue even if they don't want to.


Date: Sun, January 08, 2006, 08:28:17 ET
Posted by: His Lordship To Be, Worldlywise, I Realize, That Everybodys Crazy...Am I myself Or Just Another Freak?

Arrgh! So many people seem to be getting their hands on lyrics for Morph (although they may not be genuine).

I'm fine with this, but I like surprises so I think I'll go kidnap someone to be my slave and tell me when It's ok to read the postings in the Blue.

Just as a point of interest, I wonder if either Fagen Or Becker fully know this site exsists or read any of the postings.
Wouldn't it be great/terrifying if a posting on the Blue influenced the great men themselves?

W-Fifes, um, POINT was very well made and it backs up my view that Cats are not only smart, but also evil. I can't walk down my street without being hissed at, scrathced or (once) being tripped over by the little freaks. I think I took a lot of him with me when I tripped over my neighbours cat thoug, so that's one more threat to humanity out of action!


Date: Sun, January 08, 2006, 05:57:46 ET
Posted by: W, e

informer- Well said.
Fife- Not well said.


Date: Sun, January 08, 2006, 03:33:44 ET
Posted by: Ann, Borneo

Hey Fife!!
Thanks!! We all needed that in these heady times!!

As an "owner" of 2 dogs and 3 cats (or do they own me??) I can relate to the sentiments in that posting!

All the best, Dandom,

Ann


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 23:52:22 ET
Posted by: informer,

Gretchen,
Donald has mentioned in interviews that he doesn't really care about anything outside of the music, including album covers, publicity, etc. Even in one of the recent interviews he said he just does what he does and believes everything will work out ok.
I can't imagine he cares at all about websites or the online culture in general except as fodder for making songs. I admire him for just doing what he does and not being a slave to PR flacks.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 23:11:32 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Some more "H-Gang" radio single info:

http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=16774

According to this article, "H-Gang" will be available for airplay starting at the end of the month.


Also, Steely Dan moment yesterday: While channel surfing, I hit CNN doing a story on HDRadio. They played a "Broadcasting in High Definition" tag that was backed by the intro to Glamour Profession.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 21:04:20 ET
Posted by: ph,

fife, did you steal that from Gary Larson??


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 20:53:03 ET
Posted by: fife, baltimore,eh

Excerpts from a Dog's Diary:
Day number 180
8:00 AM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
9:30 AM - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVORITE!
9:40 AM - OH BOY! A WALK! MY FAVORITE!
10:30 AM - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVORITE!
11:30 AM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
12:00 noon - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVORITE!
1:00 PM OH BOY! THE YARD! MY FAVORITE!
4:00 PM - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVORITE!
5:00 PM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
5:30 PM - OH BOY! MOM! MY FAVORITE!
Day number 181
8:00 AM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
9:30 AM - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVORITE!
9:40 AM - OH BOY! A WALK! MY FAVORITE!
10:30 AM - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVORITE!
11:30 AM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
12:00 noon - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVORITE!
1:00 PM OH BOY! THE YARD! MY FAVORITE!
4:00 PM - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVORITE!
5:00 PM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
5:30 PM - OH BOY! MOM! MY FAVORITE!
Day number 182
8:00 AM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
9:30 AM - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVORITE!
9:40 AM - OH BOY! A WALK! MY FAVORITE!
10:30 AM - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVORITE!
11:30 AM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
12:00 noon - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVORITE!
1:00 PM OH BOY! THE YARD! MY FAVORITE!
1:30 PM - ooooooo. bath. bummer.
4:00 PM - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVORITE!
5:00 PM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
5:30 PM - OH BOY! MOM! MY FAVORITE!
Excerpts from a Cat’s Diary
DAY 752 - My captors continue to taunt me with bizarre little dangling objects. They dine lavishly on fresh meat, while I AM forced to eat dry cereal. The only thing that keeps me going is the hope of escape, and the mild satisfaction I get from ruining the occasional piece of furniture. Tomorrow I may eat another houseplant.
DAY 761 - Today my attempt to kill my captors by weaving around their feet while they were walking almost succeeded, must try this at the top of the stairs. In an attempt to disgust and repulse these vile oppressors, I once again induced myself to vomit on their favorite chair...must try this on their bed.
DAY 765 - Decapitated a mouse and brought them the headless body, in attempt to make them aware of what I AM capable of, and to try to strike fear into their hearts. They only cooed and condescended about what a good little cat I was...Hmmm. Not working according to plan.
DAY 768 - I AM finally aware of how sadistic they are. For no good reason I was chosen for the water torture. This time however it included a burning foAMy chemical called "shAMpoo." What sick minds could invent such a liquid. My only consolation is the piece of thumb still stuck between my teeth.
DAY 771 - There was some sort of gathering of their accomplices. I was placed in solitary throughout the event. However, I could hear the noise and smell the foul odor of the glass tubes they call "beer.." More importantly I overheard that my confinement was due to MY power of "allergies." Must learn what this is and how to use it to my advantage.
DAY 774 - I AM convinced the other captives are flunkies and maybe snitches. The dog is routinely released and seems more than happy to return. He is obviously a half-wit. The bird on the other hand has got to be an informant, and speaks with them regularly. I AM certain he reports my every move. Due to his current place in the metal room his safety is assured. But I can wait, it is only a matter of time.

Thought a laugh was needed! Man we can get so serious about something that is meant to be entertainment.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 20:01:04 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, giving Don the benefit of the doubt

I don't believe Donald would just sell out to the suits and allow a stiff corporate styled website to bear his name. However, you have to figure that if he wants to make money and get his songs out there to a wider population, he may have to choose a route that is less conventional to him, such as more aggressive publicity. You can't blame him, all of the time and money, not to mention the emotional and mental effort that goes into his work should bring him monetary reward. I'm glad he'll be promoted, he's a beacon of class and integrity in a musical climate littered with a lot of low level pop stars and whiney copycat "rock" bands.
Don't most of you think that Donald would insist on having some creative input into the website? He's a meticulous and picky gentleman, I'm sure he's not just handing over his image without close monitoring of any publicity.

G


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 18:53:44 ET
Posted by: future Buddha, nirvana

Awesome.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 17:46:05 ET
Posted by: Corazon, ,

All hail
The Great Pagoda of Funn
With no fear
Liberated from illusion
All Buddhas in the future
Thanks to this perfect wisdom
Awakening. All hail.
The Great Pagoda of Funn
Universal enlightenment
The Great Pagoda of Funn
In this life
In this dark vale
One is rarely truly loved
The Great Pagoda of Funn
The Great Pagoda of Funn


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 17:45:04 ET
Posted by: Spring DF Tour, Summer SD Tour

Money money money money, money
Some people got to have it
Some people really need it


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Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 15:26:38 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, the roof

I think DF has taken great strides by HAVING a website, so I'm pleased with whatevaH we get. Hope you're right about them caring about their true fans, hoops. Sometimes, I think we may be a little scary to them, although I can't imagine why....

Also, it seems to me there will be fan gatherings no matter who, no matter where. Thanks to this site and others, we are organized and have our own pseudo-community. Can't wait for the Greenroom to light up again, as well, although that little hub certainly takes its toll on the REM allotment.

Having said that, most of us would appreciate a little tour news, (if you're listening, Mr. Fagen). You know, we have these jobs, kids and stuff to make arrangements for.

Hey, BR..what's new? E-me. Hope to see you soon!


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 14:30:08 ET
Posted by: Jim,

Sorry to post personal message but mail problems:

Gina: Got your message...your spam filter blocked my response. Will try again later.

jim


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 14:21:16 ET
Posted by: Jim,

I agree with a lot of points made in the "Steely Dan Fan" post--but let's wait and see before assuming that df.com won't be similar in the best ways to sd.com

I underdstand the apprehension. There's site for a different musical artists that I used to upkeep but I gave up when the "suits" got involved. I used a teeny logo as a link to this artist's charity website and the management ended up requiring me to fill out a bunch or forms just to have that link to their charity and were kinda rude, IMHO.

It's hard to say why the sites are separate, although I do prefer the one-stop approach. (Does anyone like getting a long distance bill separate from their local service phone bill?) But there's so many possibilities with legalities, etc. I remember when people made a big deal out of the dummy links installed in the steelydan.com page when all it was was a way of diverting spiders from collecting email addresses.

I definitely agree that the great way D + W via sd.com reached out to us fans is unheard of. They may not like the suits but they do care for their true fans. The web site really showed that and that they had fun. It was great when Walter would comment about the Danfests from the stage. As John pointed out, it is a lot to keep up and that they had less humor essays and the like in 2003 might indicate this.

Bottom line is that we will have to wait and see. One thing for certain: I was a Steely Dan fanatic decades before the internet and so that won't change.

BTW: All you people looking for commercial promotion remind me of those people who love the Superbowl for the commercials as much as the game.

Brite Nightgown:

I love my baby's brite nightgown
She uses Clorox bleach
Every day
so her gown is brite at nite
Night by night
Brighter than brite.
My baby's nightgown is so brite.

DAYYYYY LigghtTTT! <- Donald probably sounds a little nasally here
My Baby's so bright
and Then I hold her tight!
I shake so
What a fright!
Brighter than brite
My Baby's nightgown is so brite.

Hey! I won't give up my day job but then again this took only 2 min.

Fly low and be cool!

jim


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 14:14:31 ET
Posted by: Paul,

The Bear Got You reminds me of Night By Night.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 13:19:44 ET
Posted by: Roger,

CK- Yeah, but Do It Again was influenced by The Doors? NOT

"The Bear" sounds so Pink Floydish it isn't even funny! If you can't hear it, you really should have your ears checked.

Shine on you crazy.........


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 13:14:08 ET
Posted by: Rajah ,

OK, you first, chuckles.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 13:08:32 ET
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

Thanks, Bud!
I like you very much.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 13:00:32 ET
Posted by: Bud,

THE FITTEST- Yeah, and you write and sound like my 2 year old step son.

Rajah- Do us all a favor. Either stop drinking or stop posting.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 12:54:49 ET
Posted by: CK, Madagascar

"The Bear" was not influenced by Pink Floyd!
Only a Fool would say that.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 12:51:53 ET
Posted by: CK, Madagascar

Thanks Sigmund, but
we need more lyrics.
"H Gang," "What I Do," "Brite Nitegown", etc....


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 12:31:51 ET
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

donald looks like my GRANDfather!
Donald: where did you get those glasses...?


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 12:29:27 ET
Posted by: Rajah, pacing Pasadena

I hope the SD site and SD will be back in due course. With links. Roll that fire-breathing promo monster out. Donald surely will have to suck it up and get his badself on the TV shows, times haven't changed that much, Mike McDonald had to do Regis and Ellen forgoodnessake, somehow couldn't fathom a world DF would do that in but he is in show-biz right, he's a musical performer? Morph the Cat caps off this trilogy, there is his boxed set to purvey, he can sit on the couch and recount the musical sojourn of his prime to Letterman and Katy Couric(oh that would be hell), announce his tour dates, ya know, flog it.

A Very Special View with Donald Fagen and an entire hour of Oprah should do it.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 10:35:48 ET
Posted by: A Steely Dan Fan,

Yes, John. I realize that and I agree. In fact, I'm pretty sure that sd.com was mostly Walter and his help and much less DF. But consider one of my points is that for several years we Danfans had something exceptional and we are thankful for it. My point is I hope I am wrong but I think we will miss something good we fans had in the past. My point is that Walter and Donald together ran a great website and am disappointed they aren't back under the Steelydan.com umbrella.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 10:28:40 ET
Posted by: DF,

I agree that "I Got The Bear" was influenced by PF.

ALSO CHECK OUT DEEP PURPLE'S (I THINK IT'S)"HIGHWAY STAR" FROM THE "MACHINE HEAD" ALBUM FOR SOME INFLUENCE IN THE SOUND ON "BLACK FRIDAY". Especially when Don goes "Oooooooooooooo" (veeery Ian Gillian) before WB's final gtr. solo to fade.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 10:15:40 ET
Posted by: john, nyc

STEELY FAN: Did you ever stop to think that maybe Donald doesn't have the time to run a website, make music and tour?


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 10:12:09 ET
Posted by: A Steely Dan Fan,

A website is not the main reason I listen to Steely Dan, but the content at sd.com was so great and I wish it were back.

I'm looking forward to have pending info about a new one from Donald. But I am hesitatnt about the enthusiasm for Warner Brothers Records sending us lots of ads and running DF's web site. I'm sure it will look "Flashy" and state of the art but that is not why sd.com was so great.

Ten years ago, steelydan.com started out run by Warner Brothers. Remember the Pathfinder site? It's corporate mindset was so slow in updating info that it stood between Steely Dan and the fans. Finally Steely Dan got fed up with it and ran it themselves. Remember the fat boys in the Speedos? The suits? Those were the names sd.com used to refer to music biz execs at WBR and the like. Now Donald is having them run his site. Of course, a lot of changed in ten years. Maybe the record company gets it now but surely you understand my wait and see attitude.

Doc says WBR e-messages and ads are funny and they may well be. However, I'd much rather have the funnier communiques direct from Steely Dan. I sure hope that their idea of an improved DF site doesn't mean just having Flash and splashy graphics. What made sd.com so great was that it was genuinely funny in a Steely Dan way and it made a direct connection with Steely Dan fans that most comparable band's websites never could never match.

Given Walter's comments from the stage, you always felt that it just might happen that Walter would saunter over to the parking lot before a show and say hi at a Danfest. On a few occasions he even sent t-shirts or his assistants out. I hope I am wrong, but I don't sense Donald cares about a Donfest and I bet wbr.com's idea of a Donfest is to partner with a radio station for a commercial event with tickets rather than the fan-run, grass roots events Danfans have had in the past.

I have other examples but I hope I have made my point.

If you consider

Word of Fagen's solo project started even before EMG was out.

Except for a couple of death and copyright notices, there have been no updates to steelydan.com in about two years.

All of Becker and Fagen's previous solo efforts are covered at steelydan.com

No update at steelydan.com when Piano Jazz came out.

There's no link to donaldfagen.com at steelydan.com.

DonaldFagen.com is run by Warner Brothers Records.

WalterBecker.com has come on line as a separate site.

Walter doesn't appear on Fagen's new album.

These guys have been known to change their mind in a split second and I am thrilled they have new albums coming soon, but the vibe is pretty much the same as when I broke up with my fiance. If things are similar to that, I hope they come back together with a stronger relationship. Solo stuff will be a nice mixup but I hope they work together in the long run.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 10:01:37 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

It seems as though our friends overseas have really embraced DVD-Audio. My friend in the UK said that when you go into a record store and look under fagen that's all they have. I did search on Amazon UK and those are the top sellers. Interesting.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 09:35:29 ET
Posted by: Chrys, Fort Duquesne (ah, if only the Frogs had won)

"You Got the Bear" does indeed sound Floydian, except for the Dannish chords all over the place.

Rabelais--yet ANOTHER writer I've never read. An awful long list, uneducated person that I am; at 51, I'd better get a move on.

Yeah, those descriptions do sound like the Donald.


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 08:33:07 ET
Posted by: Sigmund Fraud, confidential patient information

He's Morph, Morph, Morph The Cat
He's a cat that really knows where it's at
He's a real fine feline
He drives the dogs insane
He's faster than a bullet train
He uses the box, and never leaves a stain
He's got bird catchin' on his brain...

He's Morph, Morph, Morph The Cat
He's a cat that really knows where it's at
He fell off the roof tryin' to catch a mouse
He hit the ground with a SPLAT!
Shift the key to C-flat!
His name is Morph The Cat!


* I pray you found this little snippet helpful CK. :)


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 04:21:37 ET
Posted by: CK, Madagascar

on the DF photo, he showes us the "finger"


Date: Sat, January 07, 2006, 04:16:49 ET
Posted by: CK, Madagascar

can anybody post the lyrics to m.t.c.?


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 23:11:34 ET
Posted by: SS, HK

The DF photo on the website is fabulous.

To me it gives credence to his recent comments that he's now really getting comfortable as a performer. He just looks a lot looser there. Hope he sticks with that.



Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 21:23:07 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Azoff back in the saddle on promo?

Expect a FLOOD of ads - the Reprise and WBR promos and emails usually have a sens of humor...we're gonna need it - how many hit albums are about death...outside Metallica & co.

I think the Fagen interview Ben Sidran interview is still on iTunes - Talking Jazz

Let me download it now. There it is!

IF Per-Gunner is correct, H-Gang *could* be on iTunes as early as Wed. the 11th or Tuesday the 17th


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 20:31:11 ET
Posted by: ph,

Heh, Fagen does look like my Dad, only about 10 years older.

Fagen for Prez!!


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 20:09:05 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Donald on Emeril Live making borscht?
Donald on Price is Right?
Donald on the Discovery Channel's, "Poltergeists of NYC?"
Donald and Dick Cheney on Meet the Press?
Donald on Dancing with the Stars?
His Barbara Walter's interview?

When will the madness end? The Dr. Phil Show?


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 19:20:39 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Never say Never

NYB - Actually Donald played quite a few warm-up gigs without Walter while putting together the NY Rock & Soul Revue.

Let's go Warner Bros.! Fire up that media machine! We want ads, promos, hell let's get Donald playing with the Stones at Superbowl XL!

Mark in Boston


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 18:59:57 ET
Posted by: Jim, Chicago

The Dandom Digest has been sent, this time covering January 4-6, 2006

If you are a subscriber, you should see it in your email box within the next 12 hours. If you don't receive it, please email me. Again, the main reason I am in the habit of announcing this here is because some people have been having problems with delivery of the Dandom Digest, usually because of spam filters, firewalls, etc.

The following are the subjects of this particular edition of the Dandom Digest:

— Yes Virginia, there is a new solo album!
— Re-cap of Recent Steely Dan News
— donaldfagen.com site & df mail list revamp
— Radio Free Dandom & Direct to Radio Single
— Pete Fogel talks about His Latest Gig & Steely Dan
— re: iTunes interview -- gone?
— REDUX: iTunes interview
— Skunk interview
— Wow, Skunk. Wow.
— CORRECTION to Last Digest: Jerome Aniton

If you are not currently a subscriber but would like to receive the free Dandom Digest email newsletter (definitely not to be confused with the glorious Official steelydan.com or Official donaldfagen.com newsletters/mail lists), please email me or see http://www.dandom.com/dandomdigest

Thanks!

jim


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 18:09:56 ET
Posted by: Jim,

Hey Ph. I didn't catch the "white text" until you pointed it out. I was just preparing a Dandom Digest and did note that it seems as if the folks at Warner Brother's records are handling the df.com site. I know Becker and Fagen have had separate music publishing companies for decades ( Freejunket and Zeon ), so maybe it's something along that line. But I think it would be a lot simpler and straightforward for us fans if they just did everything from a site for Steely Dan fans. I'm not only a DF fan or only a WB fan or only a Steely Dan fan. If I want to find out about Mickey Hart, Ratdog, The Dead, etc, I can still go to one site, http://www.dead.net and at least there are links to any tangential sites. Strictly speculation but maybe Warner's insisted on taking things over for DF's solo album as part of the marketting push. Anyhow, this is just one fan's perspective—I'm sure there's a much bigger picture. Looking forward to the site update.

jim


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 17:37:50 ET
Posted by: ph, checkin' out the reports, diggin' up the dirt

As we all know, Donald's site is back up with a one page splash, and I noted something interesting.
On Walter's one page splash site, hidden in a white font is the text "This is the official website for Walter Becker. Walter Becker and Donald Fagen are Steely Dan, and their official website is at www.steelydan.com."

I of course found this viewing the source code of the website, hoping to find secret links. But on looking at the source code to Donald's site, I found no such disclaimer. I wonder why not?

I also thought to WhoIs look up the two domain names. Walter's is registered to Steely Dan (WALTERBECKER-DOM) with a registered admin of "Steely Dan Webmaster". Here's the WHOIS text:

Domain Name.......... walterbecker.com
Creation Date........ 1999-04-06
Registration Date.... 2001-12-10
Expiry Date.......... 2014-04-06
Organisation Name.... Steely Dan (WALTERBECKER-DOM)
Organisation Address. c/o Provident Financial Management
Organisation Address. P.O. Box 4084
Organisation Address. Santa Monica
Organisation Address. 90411
Organisation Address. CA
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Steely Dan Webmaster
Admin Address........ c/o Provident Financial Management
Admin Address........ P.O. Box 4084
Admin Address........ Santa Monica
Admin Address........ 90411
Admin Address........ CA
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... w3bdomains AT steelydan DOT com
Admin Phone.......... 310 282-0477
Admin Fax............ _

Tech Name............ Domain Administrator
Tech Address......... PO Box 3895
Tech Address......... _
Tech Address......... Englewood
Tech Address......... 80155
Tech Address......... CO
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... hostmaster AT securesites DOT com
Tech Phone........... 1 801 437 0220
Tech Fax............. _
Name Server.......... ns.hmdnsgroup.com
Name Server.......... ns2.hmdnsgroup.com

Fagen's site is registed to DFLT Music, on the other hand:

Registrant:
DFLT Music
25 East Spring Valley Ave
Maywood, NJ 07607
US

Domain Name: DONALDFAGEN.COM

Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
DFLT Music
lil.gary AT azoffmusic DOT com
25 East Spring Valley Ave
Maywood, NJ 07607
US
Phone: 310-209-3140

Record expires on 12-Jan-2009
Record created on 21-Dec-2005
Database last updated on 21-Dec-2005


Interesting... Interesting Indeed...


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 17:26:45 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

Does anyone know why Two against nature is only available as a partial album on itunes? I tried to buy the whole album but songs are missing...

Also, why isn't 11 tracks of whack not available on itunes? Just wondering. Thanks in advance for your help!!


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 16:24:56 ET
Posted by: FP , nyc

Alkali, Thanks!
"The Bear Got You" or "You Got The Bear" was influenced by Pink Floyd.
who knew


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 16:13:50 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

FP: Absotively!

"hot licks and rhetoric don't count much for nothing, be glad if you can use what you borrow"

Peace
A


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 15:23:19 ET
Posted by: FP, nyc

Alkali, I can give you my reviews of all the SD songs and guess which bands influenced which songs. Do my guesses count too?


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 14:58:21 ET
Posted by: Jenny, Fredneck, MD

My Birthday is March 7th! I couldn't ask for a better gift than Morph...


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 13:59:54 ET
Posted by: Jim,

Thanks, informant.

Now you can sign up for the new mail list. When I did it showed that Warner Bros Records was running the site. Danfest/Donfest/Waltfest, etc, I wonder why they don't just use the sd.com mail list. Maybe they think 2.5 years is too old?

jim


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 13:46:55 ET
Posted by: Informant,

DF.com is back up...sort of.


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 12:24:37 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

I think it would be cool to have Fagen do his solo stuff, then Becker do his solo stuff, then they both come out and do some Steely stuff....a la Billy Joel and Elton John did during their tour. You get the best of all worlds!

And R.I.P. to Lou Rawls....what a voice!


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 12:22:21 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 12:06:15 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

Hi all,
a friend e-mailed me this review from Perso.wanadoo.Fr.
The Doors influenced "Do it again"?
who knew.

* Do It Again : One of their first hits. A Doors-influenced masterpiece, with a phenomenal guitar solo from Denny Dias and fine keyboard work from Fagen.
* Dirty Work : Laid-back vocal and a pretty, soothing melody.
* Reelin' In The Years : Great guitar from session man, Elliot Randall (who was once part of The Druids of Stonehenge). Seems to me that Steely Dan did influence the Southern Rock bands of the mid-'70s (as did Cream and Traffic before them).
* Brooklyn (Owes The Charmer Under Me) : Nice Country overtones thanks to Jeff Baxter's steel guitar (twenty years later, he would play the steel on The Stray Cats' rendition of 'Can't Help Falling In Love').
* Turn That Heartbeat Over Again : Now, I'm telling you, this is one of the most beautiful songs ever written. I feel like cryin' each time I play it. The shared lead vocals - on the right and on the left -, then the blending of the voices in the middle, the slick chord progressions, plus the sensitive, Hank Marvin-like guitar solo, make for stunning listening.
* King Of The World : Another song to haunt you, with more penetrating keyboard work from Fagen.
* Rikki Don't Lose That Number : Borrowing that fabulous intro from Horace Silver's 'Song For My Father' (cut for the Blue Note LP of the same name in '63).
* Pretzel Logic : Heavy beat and another nice hook. Strange words, as usual.
* With A Gun : Simple & effective Country Rock ditty.
* Bad Sneakers : One of the highlights of the 'Katy Lied' album. Dig that guitar break from Walter Becker whose bass work in most cuts is really boss !! And the ending sounds a little bit Motown-ish, to boot.
* Chain Lightning : The kind of Blues-based numbers I like so much.
* Any World (That I'm Welcome To) : Bitter and catchy.
* Throw Back The Little Ones : Ooh, this is great, too !! Donald shines on piano and keyboards, and I detect some little bits from Joe Henderson's marvelous 'Mode For Joe' (Blue Note again, 1966).
* Kid Charlemagne : A big hit and a showcase for Larry Carlton's talent.
* Haitian Divorce : What will I say, now that I'm out of superlatives ?! Reggae-styled and laced with terrific talk-box guitar (à la Frampton but even better), this is a killer !!
* The Royal Scam : Built around a sometimes irritating guitar figure but superior nevertheless. Great trumpet arrangement.
* Aja : The whole LP is a beauty but the title track is truly something else. The extended instrumental break ranks as one of the best and most sensitive pieces of music ever written and played. Wayne Shorter's sax solo is fruity, sinuous and totally bone-chilling. The band - including Chuck Rainey, Joe Sample, Plas Johnson & Jackie Kelso - cooks with ease and class. Call it 22nd Century Music.
* Peg : So lovely !! Particularly the vocal chorus and Jay Graydon's Danny Gatton-like guitar break.
* Deacon Blues : Impossible to overlook this desperate song and Pete Christlieb's tenor sax solo.
* FM : Walter doubles on guitar and bass on this.
Love the string arrangements ('as long as the moon is bright' ...).

* Hey Nineteen : Romantic but danceable. Strong bass and delightful keyboards. Haven't checked the stats on this one but it sure was one of their biggest hits.
* Time Out Of Mind : Another tremendous cut from the 'Gaucho' LP. A blueprint for Donald's soon-to-come 'New Frontier'. Plus some atmospheric guitar from Mark Knopfler.
* Let's close with 'My Rival', with its barrel organ-sounding organ, a typically well-crafted song which combines all sorts of influences - and demonstrates once and for all that Steely Dan had few rivals at creating music of the highest caliber during that magical decade.

here's to the year of the Cat!

A


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 11:37:40 ET
Posted by: Bob,

Lou Rawls has died. Can't say I dug everything he did but during the summer of '76, his "You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine" ( "You're gonna miss my lovin'...") and Boz Scagg's "Lowdown" were two of the smooovest hits ever.


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 11:14:19 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Donald does appear a bit avuncular these days, oh my, and the parallels between himself and Rabelais are mounting. Rabelais was an Utopian whose preferred style was depicting worlds dysfunctional and dystopic.

from the First Thelemist:

"He was one of the fathers of Western realism, precursor of modernism and humanism. He was a great influence on other writers such as Jonathan Swift, Laurence Sterne, James Joyce and Aleister Crowley. He was a social critic, a lucid testimonial of humanistic ethics, his writings were convincing, if often extreme, proposals for human rights."

And from the Catholic Encyclopedia no less:

"His strange fictions seem to be a veil behind which he concealed his ideas...but many of his gigantic buffooneries were merely the satisfaction of a vast humor and boundless imagination."


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 10:43:31 ET
Posted by: fezo, officebound

Oh Christ, he is starting to look like my Dad


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 09:23:07 ET
Posted by: NYB, When worlds collide

Has it dawned on anyone that this solo Donald Fagen tour has NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE? Donald Fagen has NEVER toured solo before. Not for The Nightfly, not for Kamakiriad... NEVER! Fagen has been making music for 35+ years and HE'S NEVER TOURED SOLO BEFORE! Don't even think about not buying tickets for this tour because you'll be missing out on a one-in-lifetime event! I know I'll be going to as many shows as possible.

Hey wouldn't it be cool if Walter Becker opened for Donald Fagen on this tour? Walter doing all his solo work, and Donald doing all his solo work? Yeah I know, that's asking alot but still... IT WOULD BE COOL!

Seeya there...


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 09:21:21 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

Well....that pic on df.com is interesting....maybe that should be the cover. Maybe ad a cat claw coming at him!!!


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 08:41:09 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island

Hoops - these drug pushing/pornography spam artists all seem to really dig your site here. That's got to be flattering in some way.


Date: Fri, January 06, 2006, 03:56:29 ET
Posted by: Frank Johnson, None

Good Service


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 23:58:05 ET
Posted by: HeyMike, my dog sam eats purple flowers

ok Boston but no one was seeing clearly that day!! Donfest indeed!


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 20:48:10 ET
Posted by: Local Boy, coffee shop, hey it's Friday here already

I was thinking that being a Steely Dan fan may be something akin to having been a bop fan in the early '50's......bop is a genre that only seemed to cater to those who "got it"...and seemed to understand the unique message that was somehow beautifully entwined in the horns of Charlie Parker and Diz...the piano of Monk and Powell...Steely Dan...is similar...we here..seem to get something out of there compositions that about 90% of the music buying public seem to miss......Steely Dan is to rock as Charlie Parker is to jazz......righteous


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 20:39:59 ET
Posted by: Local Boy, Farr East drinking..kopi lah

hey nyB

thanks for the note on Denny Dias & associate...I found this bit on Billy Bauer...the man who taught Dias how to play....turns out that Bauer...like Victor Feldman, also had played in the Woody Herman band....too bad Steely Dan didn't tour with Woody back in '79 when that great Century Record came out.....


Billy Bauer (1915 - 2005) was already an established professional guitarist in New York when players like Johnny Smith and Jimmy Raney arrived on the scene. He played with the Jerry Wald band before joining Woody Herman in 1944 as a member of the 1st Herd. And in 1946 he played with Benny Goodman and Jack Teagarden.

Billy Bauer established and distinguished himself as a solid rhythm player with these bands but it was in the small groups that emerged from these bands, lead by Chubby Jackson, Bill Harris and Lennie Tristano, that Billy Bauer established himself as a significant soloist in the evolving bebop movement. Billy Bauer's solo work with these groups has been sited as some of the best examples of early bebop guitar. But, more significantly, his solo work has been sited as some of the most progressive playing for any era. His work with Lennie Tristano in the mid 1940's certainly represented some of the most progressive guitar playing up to that time.

The trio and duet recordings Bauer made with Tristano around 1945 are especially interesting. Tristano and Bauer enjoyed a natural synergy in style and approach to their music. Tristano's intricate arrangements were a perfect match for Bauer's guitar. These examples demonstrated that Bauer was not just a good guitarist, but also an outstanding musician. His unison playing with Tristano was precise, and his accompaniment to Tristano's piano represented some of the best and earliest examples of great guitar comping.

Billy Bauer continued his pioneering guitar work with Lee Konitz in the 1950's and 1960's. As with Lennie Tristano, Bauer found a kindred musical spirit in Konitz. Konitz's avant-garde saxophone work was a perfect match for Bauer's advanced guitar. On the recording Lee Konitz especially, the two musicians demonstrated a unique musical dialogue across a range of styles from bop and cool to the avant-garde. Duet For Saxophone and Guitar, was an unusual instrument paring, that really allowed Bauer’s great musicianship to be heard. Early in 1956, Billy Bauer made a recording under his own name. Plectrist put Bauer front and center throughout, playing great jazz guitar.

In the history of jazz guitar there have been many examples of great musicians who are often overlooked for the enormous influence they had. Billy Bauer is one of these. Anyone interested in the early evolution of the guitar in bop and cool jazz should start with Bill Bauer. He led the way for guitarists like Jimmy Raney, and along with Lennie Tristano, brought the piano, guitar, bass trio to a whole new level.

In the 1990's Billy Bauer appeared at the 1997 JVC Tributes for Barney Kessel and Tal Farlow. Just Jazz Guitar, February 1996 had a nice interview with Billy Bauer by Michael Katz.

©Copyright 1998 - 2004 Classic Jazz Guitar


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 20:32:30 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, .

Hoops - I'm goin' with Waltapalooza.


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 20:23:51 ET
Posted by: jim, shehh caw go

It would be fun to hear something new for Donald's Birthday on Tuesday. That's when I think the site will come up...but then again I was wrong about Dec 25.

Would be great to get the advance Radio Play CD of "H Gang" for Radio Free Dandom, assuming that is happening here as well as Sweden.

With Walter having a solo album, I wonder if there will be a Walter tour. What will we call "Waltfests"? Personally, I prefer "Wing Dings" for the Fagen tour.

Fly low and be cool.

jim


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 19:24:44 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, coming your way....

Cute picture of Donald. The man only gets better.

Where should we all meet for the first Donfest? Somewhere in NYC, perhaps in a suite in a hotel certain people have allready booked? Just a thought, but let's start planning.

G


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 19:15:31 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, First?

HeyMike - DONfests: Check out my post on January 1.

Wahhhhhh. So it's pushed back a week to March 7????? What happened to February 28?


Chrysler - Pats/Steelers: Careful what you wish for.


Still tired from the Rose Bowl last night. What a game!

Mark in Boston


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 18:39:53 ET
Posted by: curious as a cat, ,

What's March 7?


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 18:26:00 ET
Posted by: moray eel, work

Note to self:

Tomorrow, ask boss for March 7th off.

m.e.


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 18:22:24 ET
Posted by: moray eel, getting closer

You gotta believe that df.com will put up something special this weekend...

m.e.


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 17:47:06 ET
Posted by: John, NYC

A friend at Reprise who is interning said that the DF info should be on Repriserecords.com site within a week or two. He is looking into a possible itunes single to buy before the album comes out which is the first tuesday in march.


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 17:34:40 ET
Posted by: heymike,

and .net same site


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 17:25:30 ET
Posted by: HeyMike, shy-ka-go

DF is starting to look like his Dad!!!


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 17:23:28 ET
Posted by: HeyMike, that ditch out in the valley

for the DF tour will we have "Don-fests"??

If so- you heard it here first.

Roger and out


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 17:11:17 ET
Posted by: FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

WAKE UP!
Something s changed at donaldfagen.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

check it out FELLOWS!!!!!!!!!!!


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 13:46:23 ET
Posted by: SCDALAK, bOSTON

I'm getting that a lot Fittest, lol...


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 13:42:53 ET
Posted by: Irving,

DF.com is just being turned over to management. I'm sure the site will be up soon... and better than before.

So long Lewis Fairlawn


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 13:40:35 ET
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

scdalak: I don't believe you


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 13:38:02 ET
Posted by: Due With Buzz, Hovering over Cousin Depressed

http://cdbaby.com/cd/jtabacco


Howdy Bluebookers!
As the ~Raj is spinning his turban to its full steeliness and professing truth to the fact Steely Dan fans are weird if not weirder, King of the Absurd Experimentalism, multi-instrumentalist John Tabacco has had the chance to glue his ear onto the speakers droolin' the Morph the Cat album. Who knows he might be persuaded to write a review or share his first, second and third impressions with the rest of us... so you can reach him via email, whoch cna be located in the link above.

Funny thing is, JT has a song on the album titled SENSITIVE JOAN ... does that morph a bell?

Morphed out,
DWB


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 13:21:13 ET
Posted by: Denny's Basement Tapes, uh, Denny's basement?

"I still think Walter is a better bass player than guitarist." (Rajah)

Or Becker might be one hell of a Bass player AND a guitarist. Now there's a possibility you've never considered Raj...


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 12:27:17 ET
Posted by: scdalak, Boston

A little birdie whispered the lyrics to Morph the Cat


Its time to Morph the Cat
What do You think about That
That cat is so Phat.
Whatcha THink about that?

That cat is so smooth
He really Likes his Booze
Its time to Morph the Cat
Its time to Morph that Cat.

Reprise



Preety good huh?


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 12:26:00 ET
Posted by: Rajah ,

And it came to pass that the Blue was readable once more. "Do It Again" is one of their very best, how great is that sitar-guitar feel coupled with Latin percussion? Wild, abzoltely vild, that it should have been their very first, what a chicky-chicky-boom on dat-a-funky-funky toon.

Carlton's version of "Josey" on the Clapton Crossroads DVD took me by surprise, ol' buddy a mine snuck it onto the plasma TV whilst we were waissailing in LI... just to jerk my chain because he's sick of hearing me rave about Steely Dan all these years. Too f'nn bad. Hearing this and seeing LC in the flesh so to speak made me wonder just how much about six string did Walt learn from Larry Carlton? A lot obviously, but it's funny, I still think Walter is a better bass player than guitarist. Not better but he's more entertaining on 4-string B.


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 12:08:42 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

Nice try Wallace. Not only are you off....but waaaaay off!!!


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 11:44:52 ET
Posted by: Mike Wallace, 60 min

KDawg- Assume? Let's see. You're KD(awg) and you talked about football in your last post. That means your real name is Kelly Dwyer. That means you weren't even born when Aja came out. I'm I still assuming K.D.?

Nobody can dispute anything I said in my last post. (Sorry to the spell check police) Especially a 22 yeard old sports writer from the mid-west. Of course DF dot come will have something up soon. But believe me, they don't care. Not only am I a lot older than you, I know a lot more about this band than you do.

And now...Andy Rooney


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 11:24:34 ET
Posted by: luckless pedestrian, @not enough coffee

MIB - yep, will come down for a Fagen tour for sure - that would be so very cool if Fagen played Berklee instead of "Tweeter" - the sound is so much better at Berklee - even cooler would be Sanders Theater at Harvard, no?

and, if they play Berklee, I get a return visit from Ed Beatty, which is always a good thing...except leave the camera at home this time, huh?

But yeah on seeing Brubeck too - every year I go see him and think it could be the last time I see him so I just feel compelled to go -

Things are good up here, winter has come more slowly than last year, I only started wearing my parka this week! Frenchmen's Bay hasn't iced in at all so the fishermen are still here. Work is busy with small town crap - what's a dog catcher to do?

Anyway - go Pat's!


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 10:55:35 ET
Posted by: Amazing That There Hasn't Been, Not one Mention Here Of

Cunliffe's super hot and sexy arrangement of Do It Again that is up for a Grammy this year. (By the way Mike Wallace, the plural of Grammy is not Grammy's). In this version the saxes and flutes play the "In the mornin you go gunnin part" and the piano plays back "For the man who stole your water," over hot hot hot congas and timbales.

On the other hand, it's not so surprising.


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 10:49:22 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

"For the first 15 years of their existence (you're to young to remember) nobody knew what they looked like."

How do you know how old I am? Mr. Wallace...being a great interviewer that you are, you should know better than to make assumptions. And really....you think they don't care? In this day and age, with all the web surfing and transactions, you think that Becker/Fagen would care less? Come on. Look back at 2VN...it was one of the top selling albums on the internet. You telling me they had no knowledge of this? And furthermore, putting clips on a website furthers the spreading of ones music and gets even more people into it. They know this Mr. Wallace. As I posted a while back....just like their music changed, so have they. Tours are more common....and it turn, they seem more accessable to the media and public. You have to be if you want to push cd's off the shelves.

So Mr. Wallace, as much as I enjoy your insightful interviews, you are a little off-base on this one. ;)


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 10:11:43 ET
Posted by: Mike Wallace, 60 min

KDawg- What you should really be surprised at is that these guys even have a website to begin with!
Steely Dan never cared about publicity....ever! For the first 15 years of their existence (you're to young to remember) nobody knew what they looked like. Aja comes out in 1977 as one of the top albums of the year/decade and not only no tour, fans are still asking "which ones Fagen"? And "which ones Becker"? They win 5 grammy's in 2001 and don't even follow it up with a tour. EMG comes out and it was like "where's the publicist"? They turn down Saturday Night Live and every other tv talk show. Why are you so surprised DF Dot com is empty? They simply don't care.....never did and it looks like they never will.

This is not only MY two cents..... it's a fact!


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 09:37:25 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

What a game last night....Texas had the last laugh!!!

Now...on to the df.com thing. Does it look bad to have nothing on your site for over a week...not even a picture? wb.com at least has a pic of him....but df.com still says under construction. I've dabbled in web stuff and to not have anything up on your site is a big boo-boo. Slap a pic of Fagen up there, or a nature shot....sumthin'.

Just my 2 nickels.


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 07:01:17 ET
Posted by: ps, Junior League?

http://www.miniclip.com/bball.htm


oh, and another thought ran through the mind, which seems very funny in a way.. no pun or insult or whatever intended, Jim :-)

Df being good at shootin' hoops...

-what's on a steely mind....


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 06:46:11 ET
Posted by: Gina, Sun Mountain

http://www.writingaffairs.com/mizar5net/index.php

well, it's not a sample from Morph the Cat, but i'd imagine a musician who played live with DF and recorded with him would be 'the best next thing/person'... Steel guitarist Ken Emerson from Kauai sheds a little light on some of Donald's other activities, besides writing songs... so, while waiting for new Morph material and news, you might like to reel some other images of mr DF in mind...




Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 03:21:15 ET
Posted by: IDTC, PA

"After a night of troubled dreams Gregor Samsa awoke to find himself transformed into a gigantic insect."

Something like me the past two weeks--holiday partying, you know. The Chryslers do the partying thing up RIGHT. Oy vey iz mir.

Ever peruse "R. Crumb's 'Kafka?'" Really nice supplement to Franz's ouvre, ya gotta check it out!


On another note, here's hoping for a Stumblers/Pats rematch in 2&1/2 weeks. (Although how the 3 Bs o' the Burgh (Bill, Ben, & Bettis) will get past Indy is beyond me at the moment...)


Date: Thurs, January 05, 2006, 01:01:07 ET
Posted by: nyB, Denny Dias you say?

"Guitarist Ed McMenimon, age 25, has been playing and touring locally and nationally with Denny Dias (original guitar player for Steely Dan), Draw the Line (Aerosmith-endorsed tribute band), and has worked on several projects with Dinky Dawson (sound engineer for Fleetwood Mac, The Kinks and Steely Dan). Starting on guitar at age 10, he now is a locally renown session player appearing on many local and national CDs. Ed also has a degree from Berklee College of Music and works part time as a guitar instructor. He counts as his influences Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Slash, Brian Setzer, and many others. Ed decided in 1999 to front his own band, and Five To The Face was born. The band gigs two to four nights a week in the New England area, playing covers and working in original numbers."

http://slayenandfox.com/Guitar%20Nine%20Records%20-%20The%20Undiscovered.htm


Date: Wed, January 04, 2006, 21:09:44 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Point taken.

Consider then if you will both Ovidian and Kafkaesque treatments of works separated by nearly two millenia entitled, "the Metamorphosis." I'll bet you booty to bed sores that we will have some resonances in Morph coming up with these immortal opii.


Date: Wed, January 04, 2006, 20:28:08 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, .

Hi LP! How are things up north?

Never mind Brubeck in June, how about Fagen in the spring????
You coming down to Boston for that!?!? I'm guessing either the Orpheum or Berklee Performance Center for the show.

Mark in Boston


Date: Wed, January 04, 2006, 20:24:11 ET
Posted by: Local Boy, the Orient

I found a website that offers the Hampton Hawes album of 30 years ago that features some guitar work from Denny Dias.....Hawes seems to have been a softer version of Bud Powell....Dias also appeared on a jazz/disco album, circa '78, but I can't remember..


http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=1034721&style=music&cart=298334963&BAB=E

trivia- Hawes was busted for pot in 1960...and had his sentence commuted by JFK in 1962.


Date: Wed, January 04, 2006, 20:10:29 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

I'll oil up my muck-lucks, sweetheart.


Date: Wed, January 04, 2006, 19:53:37 ET
Posted by: Gretchen , looking for more confirmation

But why Sweden? Will there be a tour there eventually? Get ready, Rajah, you know how I have always wanted to see Scandinavia. Bring on the glogg and ginger cookies.

G


Date: Wed, January 04, 2006, 19:18:00 ET
Posted by: Jim,

I'm as crazy as you, L2B, to hear more. The preview single promised for next week may just make the anticipation unbearable.

jim


Date: Wed, January 04, 2006, 16:46:47 ET
Posted by: His Lordship To Be, Worldlywise, I Realize, That Everybodys Crazy...Am I myself Or Just Another Freak?

Me need clips, me need morph, me like cats, me slobbering real bad, me making unitelligable goo-goo ga-ga sentances which Hoops will get annoyed with and delete...


Date: Wed, January 04, 2006, 12:17:42 ET
Posted by: Rajah, L.A.

Yeah, see, I took all of those pills but it barely took the edge off.

Baba Up In My Rabelaisian Puff of Smoke Rajah


Date: Wed, January 04, 2006, 11:34:47 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

Morph will be nice....he has to be. You think Fagen would put out anything less? I just want a 10 second clip...sumthin'!


Date: Wed, January 04, 2006, 10:28:34 ET
Posted by: Will, Hotlanta

Mike - I share your love of EMG. I play it all the time. I got a feeling that Morph the Cat is is going to be even better! Can't wait!
Later

Oh yeah Mike F....Please don't mention Jackson Browne and Steely Dan in the same sentence.


Date: Wed, January 04, 2006, 09:41:42 ET
Posted by: Mike F, New York

RE: Blues Beach lyric: I thought at first it was "way sweeter America" but after much listening decided it couldn't be that. Someone else suggested "way sweeter aware" which sounded closer but still not right. "Way sweeter and merrier" sounds the closest to my ears. I have been a Dan fan since high school in the 1980's, seen them a few times, including a truly great show at Roseland Ballroom in 2003 (anyone have a tape? I would pay generously or offer up some live Jackson Browne...) and although I have always been partial to Katy Lied, EMG has become one of my favorite albums of all time of any artist or group. Since it's come out, I have listened to it at least once a week and almost every time all the way through. But I haven't really found anyone else who has reacted so strongly and positively to it among friends who have similar musical taste, which I find curious.


Date: Wed, January 04, 2006, 09:09:33 ET
Posted by: luckless pedestrian, @coffee



yes, i know, i'm an old fart at 41 but i've been seasoned in the steely dan cyber-world, sorta like lawry's...lol

thinking about the bernard purdie shuffle today for some reason, better get my aja album out -


Date: Wed, January 04, 2006, 09:08:36 ET
Posted by: fezo, officebound

My memory was that sd.com only went black (literally) around the time of the 2000 Presidential Election results. It was real brief, only a day or two at that. Figured our heroes had gone into mourning.


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 20:48:47 ET
Posted by: Jim,

The Dandom Digest has been sent, officially covering January 1-3, 2006 but also including many items from December 12-31, 2005.

If you are a subscriber, you should see it in your email box within the next 12 hours. If you don't receive it, please email me. Again, the main reason I am in the habit of announcing this here is because some people have been having problems with delivery of the Dandom Digest, usually because of spam filters, firewalls, etc.

The following are the subjects of this particular edition of the Dandom Digest

— A short news summary: New Walter Becker Album
— Morph the Cat release date Sweden: March 8
— H Gang to radio ... and a little light reading
— Re: Late March Fagen Concert in Temecula? (Temecula?????)
— DF Website down?
— donaldfagen. NET?!?!
— donaldfagen.com, donaldfagen.net, walterbecker.com
— Heresy, I Know....
— RE: Heresy, I Know....
— Re: Heresy, I Know.... Re: Legitimate Criticisms versus Heresy
— Re: Legitimate Criticisms versus Heresy vs. Taking Things Way Too Seriously
— Surround Dan
— Re: Surround Dan
— iTunes interview
— Bruce's piano man
— Skunk on Today Show - Video
— Jeff Baxter: spooky neocon
— Re: Jeff Baxter: spooky neocon
— Who WAS that guy?
— Re: Who WAS that guy?

If you are not currently a subscriber but would like to receive the free Dandom Digest email newsletter (definitely not to be confused with the glorious Official steelydan.com or Official donaldfagen.com newsletters/mail lists), please email me or see http://www.dandom.com/dandomdigest

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Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 19:19:31 ET
Posted by: They're just having funn,

They are probably having fun switching ISPs or doing that little dance they do before they embark on a major retread of the flagship website, steelydan.com. Remember when steelydan.com turned into the completely black page after the 2000 shows were over? Then it came back a few months later when their little rest was over.


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 19:17:52 ET
Posted by: ph, grokking the shape of things to go

well, Fagen's site does finally say "Website under contruction", not just the Apache error. I think that's progress...maybe....


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 18:04:01 ET
Posted by: I Drove The...well, you know, but do you CARE?

You mean it's not, "way sweeter America?"


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 17:00:32 ET
Posted by: His Lordship To Be, Bushtuckers

In the race between Walter Becker and Donald Fagens sites and albums, i wonder who'll come out on tops, and in what ways. Not that I see any serious Fagen/Becker contest, but they are two very similiar and yet very different people.

Becker always seems more in-your-face, whilst Fagen is more out-there. it will be interesting to see the results of their twisted minds put to music when their two albums come out, and also interested to see which is the most succesfull blogger.

YGK-I think Walter Beckers title page looks more like either the wallpaper of a second hand vinyl shop or a pack of Australian fags. Not Danish, australian.


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 16:05:50 ET
Posted by: await I must as we all do, spinning

Painful darker tunes


I'll bet on it..


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 15:49:08 ET
Posted by: Mad anagrammer, Eternal Path (i.e. Planet Earth)

Toss "ultradank superfine" into an internet anagram engine and you might find...

Ardent punk failures
Drank tuneful praise
Drunken parasite flu
Faint drunk pleasure
Fatal drunken uprise

Frau like underpants
Near fraudulent skip
Freakier nuts upland
Freudian alters punk
Freudian spunk alert

Fun parka interludes
Funereal nudist park
Funk Sinatra prelude
Funkier pastureland
Funkier spartan duel

Funkier unsalted rap
Infant lurker paused
Kidnap tearful nurse
Lunar Sputnik feared
Naked surfer nuptial

Natalie spurred funk
Neptune lurks afraid
Neutral funk despair
Neutral funk praised
Painful darker tunes

Painful undertakers
Paris flu undertaken
Paris funk unrelated
Partial nuke refunds
Partial sunken freud

Past drunken failure
Pauline Funk starred
Plain funk treasured
Planet UK fundraiser
Pretrial snafu nuked

Punk’s funeral tirade
Purdue finals tanker
Puritan feud rankles
Puritan nurse flaked
Rafael nuked turnips [More about mutating veggie genes?]

Residual parent funk
Rueful Pakistan nerd
Rueful prank instead
Sad turnpike funeral
Saturn linkup feared

Sinful naked rapture
Sinful nude partaker
Sneak ultrapure find
Sneakier upland turf
Spelunker nut afraid

Supernal funk tirade
Surreal defiant punk
Tearful and spunkier
Tuneful and sparkier
Ukraine feldspar nut [A connection to http://www.walter-becker.de/ ?]

Undertaker flu pains
Undertakes April fun [An April CD release?]
Unfed Pakistan ruler
Unfed spanker ritual
Unfurl separate kind

Unreal frank dispute
Urinals predate funk
Usual partner knifed [Is this why Donald's site has been down for so long?]


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 15:09:58 ET
Posted by: lucklesspedestrian, Scotland

I'm spartacus!!

(actually I might just settle for that!)


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 15:08:21 ET
Posted by: lucklesspedestrian, Scotland

LP:

I thought it was too good to be true that this screen name hadn't been taken (albeit without the crucial space!)

I think a bottle of rioja is called for to get my creative juices flowing this evening and come up with a Dan-related screen name that no-one could possibly have thought of!

Enjoy Brubeck!


ps: "young fresh shit!!??...moi?"


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 14:51:11 ET
Posted by: luckless pedestrian, Ghana

I am the Real f****** Luckless Pedestrian!!!!!
But I'm not selfish.



Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 14:40:46 ET
Posted by: MF, Chicago

Luckless P.Senior:
This Board vitally needed some Young Fresh Shit!!!
Cry one more tear


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 14:38:32 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @work

Quote from RS.com - probably old news to you guys.



Steely Dan Man Goes Solo
Fagen to bow first solo effort in a decade, first-ever solo tour Steely Dan frontman Donald Fagen will release his third solo album, Morph the Cat, in March. Whereas his 1982 debut The Nightfly viewed the future from an adolescent's eyes, and 1993's Kamakiriad viewed it from middle age, Morph, says Fagen, "is looking toward the endings of things."
"It's the album that's closest to my vision of how [death] would sound," says Fagen. "I don't know if I could do much better."

Despite the subject matter -- with songs like "Security Joan" (about a sexy airport agent) and "Brite Nitegown," as well as fabulous Steely-esque phrases like "Rabelaisian puff of smoke," "Artic mindbath" and "ten milligrams of Chronax" -- Morph is by no means glum.

Fagen will support the record with his very own theater tour -- his first solo show since high school. "I've never done it before," he says. "I might do a few Steely Dan things that I particularly like, but it'll mainly be my stuff."

Speaking of Steely Dan, Fagen reports that Walter Becker, the other half of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame duo, is at work on an album of his own.


Hey Mike - I haven't listened in awhile and don't have it with me but I thought the line from Blues Beach was "way sweeter and merrier"

KC


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 14:33:39 ET
Posted by: Mike F., New York

Thanks df and moray eel: "way sweeter and merrier" sounds right and makes sense, I guess...


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 14:23:14 ET
Posted by: gagi, europe

no fooling fellows:
donaldfagen.com won't work agagin, till there ain't nothing bout morph
on repriserecords.com!


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 13:57:49 ET
Posted by: KDawg, Mt. Belzoni

Now donaldfagen.com says.....   

         Website www.donaldfagen.com under Construction.

No more 404 error message.


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 12:10:42 ET
Posted by: Eddie ebay, Mississippi

You can find Annalissa on ebay where she often sells pictures of Becker and Fagen that she took during the photo shoots of 2AN. Can't remember her ebay name but she's on there selling those pictures like they're candy. I wonder if the boys know about it. I'm sure they wouldn't be to happy to say the least.



Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 11:45:26 ET
Posted by: clueless pedestrian, wondering

Does anybody have any information about Annalisa, the photographer of choice for the last couple of Dan albums? Is it the same Annalisa found at www.annalisaphotography.com ? Probably really famous; I guess I should know. Annalisa is credited with that out-of-focus, pensive-Dan photo from TvN. Also responsible for the photo in Rolling Stone I think, the one with the caption "Morphing." :-)

Any info is much appreciated.


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 10:49:53 ET
Posted by: The Truth,

Nothing unusual about slicing large images for a web page, but thanks!


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 10:27:10 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Nothing sez L-U-V like a dank throw pillow...


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 10:27:05 ET
Posted by: MF, Chicago

Have a smoke


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 10:09:28 ET
Posted by: still me, amst.

interesting that if you right clik on wb, your paste comes out in pieces....


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 10:05:18 ET
Posted by: ygk, amsterdam, baby

walterbecker.com title page looks like a pack of Danish cigarettes

Happy New Year Jim, and yes, ev-ree-won!

ygk


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 10:02:25 ET
Posted by: luckless pedestrian, @work

hey - i know i don't post here much anymore but i see that my name was hijacked - sorry lucklesspedestrian in scotland, but this has been my name since 1999 (!) - ask ed beatty, he's go pictures and everything!

you can be "mad dog" as the next line in what is a great song

looking forward to new releases and, oh please, some touring

ed beatty - how are you doing?

hi mark in boston too - i'm getting brubeck tickets for the spring show at sanders/harvard, you going?

hopefully the new release will clean up these boards -

realtime life has made it tough to even lurk these parts

be well all - happy new year!


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 09:52:03 ET
Posted by: dank me, paia

Look here..

WB Concert attire

http://www.cafepress.com/digitalgarden/492795


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 08:25:35 ET
Posted by: fife, a dreary baltimore,eh

found this in my mailbox this morning.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/9099396?rnd=1136293952993&has-player=false
Nothing we haven't heard already but still exciting all the same.


Date: Tues, January 03, 2006, 06:52:38 ET
Posted by: Bud Heavy, Smallville

That 'superfine' on Walter Becker's Website is probably a reference to rolling papers. Have another look at the way it's done up.

The Ital, as someone explained, would make the papers all natural, or whatever.


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 23:16:21 ET
Posted by: lovethisgig, Atlanta

The Wikipedia comment was said tongue-in-cheek. Never imagined that anyone would take it seriously. :-) Geez!


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 22:47:10 ET
Posted by: Jim, quick

A brief news summary has been sent to Dandom Digest covering December 12-31, 2005+ has been sent out, with a full Digest coming in the next day. If you are a regular reader of the Blue, it's simply a summary of what you probably have seen here.

If you don't receive it, please email me. Again, the main reason I am in the habit of announcing this here is because some people have been having problems with delivery of the Dandom Digest, usually because of spam filters, firewalls, etc.

If you are not currently a subscriber but would like to receive the free Dandom Digest email newsletter (definitely not to be confused with the glorious Official steelydan.com or Official donaldfagen.com newsletters/mail lists), please email me or see http://www.dandom.com/dandomdigest

Thanks!

jim


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 22:43:55 ET
Posted by: tango, thoughts

Yesterday, afraid of killing -
Instead of fighting
I started to run away.
I thought of seeing you no more
And I trembled.
If I, who never feared,
Anguish by night, burst into tears -
Say, for goodness sake,
What have you given me?
I am so changed
I no longer know who I am.


tango and other sins...


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 22:29:11 ET
Posted by: jim, Passing through on the quick...

Just to make those sleepless over the meaning of the DonaldFagen.com website's "Error 404" even more sleepless, I just took a look at the print version of Reprise's press release about "Morph the Cat." At the bottom it says, "or visit DonaldFagen.net " (.net!) If you go to DonaldFagen.net , you get a Network Solutions page with "This Site is Under Construction and Coming Soon."

Gasp! What does it all mean!??!??

Trying to get caught up on posts and emails...thanks for your patience.

jim


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 18:35:09 ET
Posted by: moray eel, blues

"Way sweeter and merrier."

m.e.


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 16:28:03 ET
Posted by: HeyMike, Watching the Badgers winning

Hey Hoops, call DF and tell him his site is down. You have his cell number don't you?


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 13:32:32 ET
Posted by: Nature Peer Review,


http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7070/full/438900a.html


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 13:28:42 ET
Posted by: df,

Hey Mike in NYC:

I don't know about the misheard/missung lyrics in "Blues Beach" (I'll have to check it out), but listen to DF mispronouncing the word "nights" in the song "Snowbound" from "Kamakiriad" as "niPES" at the very end of the songs (he does this twice).


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 13:08:57 ET
Posted by: Mike F., New York

Happy New Year to everyone on this list.

I have two questions about the song Blues Beach and am wondering of anyone here has insight. I checked out the past discussions of this song but still have not been able to figure out the next to last line Donald sings that sounds like "Way sweeter aware." Anyone finally figure it out?

Also, earlier in the song, it seems to me Donald mis-sings the line "Before suddenly falling apart" and pronounces the f in falling as an s. Anyone else notice this or it it my imagination/stereo? Thanks if you can shed some light. Mike


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 12:55:45 ET
Posted by: ph, i heart wiki

here's that article:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/15/1352207&tid=95&tid=14


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 12:48:27 ET
Posted by: ph, doesn't use IE

df, clear your browser cache (also known as Temporary Internet Files) and try again.

I read a report quoted on Slashdot about Wikipedia having LESS average errors than the Encyclopedia Britannica. Of course, I only trust the Britannica about as far as I can kick it...using my knee.


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 11:12:50 ET
Posted by: Wiki Wacki, Pedia

If you think Wikipedia can't be wrong, do a Google and read the 3rd oir 4th story that comes up, from USA Today.


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 11:09:37 ET
Posted by: df,

How come when I type in walterbecker.com I'm directed to Steelydan.com?


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 10:34:10 ET
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

STEELY DAN VIDEOS!!!!

CHECK IT:

http://www.dansmovies.com/


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 10:23:51 ET
Posted by: Girlfriend, the chair

Hey, maybe Donald's folks took the site down to let Walter's site get it's due. Just a thought...

Tangos and Other Sins. I Love it! Dance lessons, anyone?


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 09:53:01 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Trust the Blue to come through, thank you, just the little I know of Walty, it somehow makes sense. If it's good to ya..you know the rest. "Superdank and Superfine" would be a great album title. I also like, "Sense and Sinsemilla."

Baba Double-Bubble Rajah


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 09:46:22 ET
Posted by: MF, Chicago

MR. DUCK - UPDATE YOUR WEBSITE!!! NOW!!!!


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 05:11:29 ET
Posted by: Clas @ Work,

---

A cornered Mu is running out of arguments and are now calling my arguments "juvenile".

"That view is opposed completely by Katz, Phillinganes, Grolnick, Marotta, Porcaro, Mounsey", he says according to Rainey's email.

Grolnick, Katz, Marotta, Mounsey and Porcaro?

The only one he quoted is Phillinganes, and his words can be interpreted in several different ways.

Chuck Rainey's email, and the writings on his homepage, (+ the Georg Wadenius interview)are clear as water, and prooves Mu is wrong.

But he would never admit it, that's not his style. Instead he's saying that Chuck rainey is a liar.

Unbelievable.

---


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 03:34:16 ET
Posted by: THE FITTEST, OF THE FITTEST

LEGALIZZZZZZZZZZEEEEEEEEEEEE IT


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 02:25:21 ET
Posted by: Smoke on the Water, Medical Science is helpless. Helpless in a case like this.

Island Records has released the Track List to Tangos Y Otros Pecados:

Rasta Yogurt
Bong at the Bottom
Mellow Maui
Marley's Ghost
Dan Steam Powered Vibration Mahn
Ganga Girlfriend
Daddy Don't Toke in that Kingston Ghetto No More
Stems and/or High
Junk-food Girl
I Rolled Out My EZ Paper (It was not my Own!)
Hey, Jah!



Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 01:08:22 ET
Posted by: Oh, I see..., you were lookin' for an explanation?

Check this link out...

http://forum.grasscity.com/showthread.php?s=491a93612782708a70d5c6637dd1483c&p=748241#post748241


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 01:03:40 ET
Posted by: Dimension Skipper, Huh? What?

Surely it couldn't possibly be relevant, but for what it's worth there _is_ a www.ultradank.com --- it appears to be just a few personal pics (not involving WB) once you enter. And there's no explanation for the term itself.


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 00:48:35 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, chaneling Tommy Chong

hmmmmm...does look like a poster that could belong in Mr. La Page's den

ultradank = weed?

superfine = no seeds, stems?

get out the blue light, bong, put on Mr. Gone

ooohhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmm

I trust one cut is not a 32 min. sitar solo...


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 00:19:48 ET
Posted by: Oh..., well uh,

I think Becker's page looks like the cover of a pack of rolling papers. Maybe "100% Ital" is like a purity rating or whatever. I know the boy likes the chiba-chiba!

:)


Date: Mon, January 02, 2006, 00:12:28 ET
Posted by: lovethisgig, Atlanta

From Wikipedia, so it can't be wrong.

Ital or I-tal is food approved of in the the Rastafari movement. The word derives from the English word vital, with the initial syllable replaced by the word I. This is done to many words in the Rastafarian vocabulary to signify the unity of the speaker with all of nature.

Though there are different interpretations of ital regarding specific foods, the general principle is that food should be natural, or pure and from the earth. Rastafarians therefore avoid food which is chemically modified or contains artificial additives (e.g., colour, flavourings, and preservatives). Some also avoid added salt in foods. In strict interpretations, foods that have been produced using chemicals such as pesticides and fertiliser are not considered ital.

In common with religions such as Judaism and Islam, Rasta prohibits the eating of pork. Some Rastafarians also avoid eating shellfish because, in common with pigs, they are considered to be scavengers. Most Rastafarians consider the ital diet to forbid the consumption of all red meat, many do not eat fish or those fish over twelve inches in length, and some are strict vegetarians. Stricter interpretations would also avoid food that has been preserved by canning or drying and even prohibit the use of metal cooking utensils. In this case, only clay and wood cooking pots, crockery and cutlery would be used. Few adherents of ital follow the strictest interpretation; some Rastafarians do not adhere to them at all.


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 23:49:44 ET
Posted by: Luddie the Chef, montego bay

yA GATta go to yamaica to know that ital =

·tal (I-t&l)
adj. The Jamaican word Ital stands for "vital", natural, clean, pure and not adulterated. Necessary to the continuation of life; life-sustaining

Like, ritghteous, mon


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 23:25:02 ET
Posted by: ed beatty, couch

and more one item found

http://adventures-in-business-communications.blogsite.com/public/blog/106599


enjoy

Ed


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 23:22:05 ET
Posted by: ED beatty, ITAL?

RaJ,
maybe this

as he's an old familiar ride from the past?
http://www.italintl.com/

ed


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 22:31:03 ET
Posted by: Rajah,

Is this the "Ital" referred to at the bottom of Walter's site I wonder?

http://www.ala.org/ala/lita/litapublications/ital/informationauthors.htm

Anybody know about this?


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 20:50:38 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, .

Jim, I'm so sorry to hear the news of your brother and sister. You never have introduced your personal troubles to the Bluebook and we always take for granted that Digests, SD News and the Bluebook will always be there. My thoughts and prayers are with you. And as Kris Kristofferson once said, "Don't let the bastards get you down".

Hopefully better days and better times are ahead. Let's start planning those DONfests and WALapaloozas!

Happy New Year to Dandom!

Mark in Boston


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 19:56:21 ET
Posted by: Jim,

It hit me this morning that again we were in a year with Dan. It's sorta like, "Is this an Olympic Year?" but for Dan fans. Then I for an odd assortment of reasons, I proceded to play LP versions of CBAT, Gaucho (Masterdisk vinyl) and 2vN on a low-quality stereo.

(Yes, the 2vN was released on vinyl in Europe and then SD posted that the LP wasn't pressed with their review.)

Hey, things are weird.

Great to see wb.com and, assuming that non-English site isn't mixed up, to see we'll have both WB and DF albums on or about the same date. I'll wager df.com is simply making adjustments in anticipation of the new release.

Ed, good to see and hear from you and good to see that article yet again. I never thought of the opera community as being on top of "Rolling Stone." But given how you don't go into opera to be trendy, I can see how someone in opera would choose a classic like Steely Dan as a fav.

Happy 2006. (Do you say "Twenty-O-Six" or "Two Thousand Six?")

jim


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 18:36:30 ET
Posted by: ed beatty, the couch

Hi,
Happy SD NEW YEAR to all

http://my.opera.com/GeekK/blog/show.dml/98714

Two individaul efforts in one year and walter becker.com.more to come
wow


Ed


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 18:20:22 ET
Posted by: ph, hoopy frood

maybe this is old news, and i'm too lazy to read the last 3 days of posts that i missed, but CHECK OUT WALTERBECKER.COM!!!


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 15:42:31 ET
Posted by: more whack, medcial science

My man Stanley
Suave but manly
Taking cover from the mark within
Now he's hiding
Pretty soon he's sliding
Looking for a lonely heart to take refuge in

Down the alley
My gal Sally
A little bruised and battered maybe from a couple times before
Hold her steady
You know I think she's ready
To climb into the ring and do it all once more

Does it hurt when I do this
Can you laugh when I go like this
All right keep it down
This one's cool for maybe one more round
Just look for big pieces when we sweep up tonight boys

Nobody's going to blame you
Scratch 'em right off that list
You know medical science is helpless
Helpless in a case like this
I know you're gonna thank me later
For giving this one a miss
'Cause medical science is helpless
Helpless in a case like this

Ivory Eddie
Half dead already
But too dumb to lie down or even let a brother know
Trouble's cruising
You know Ed's still using
Never known for passing on a chance to just say "Yo"

Little Leroy
Eddie's homeboy
Still too wet behind the ears to know his right from his wrong
And what big E's sporting
Little Lee is snorting
Guess Ed stopped on his way down to drag the kid along

And all the jiveasses and the true believers
The bullshit givers and receivers
Here today tomorrow gone
To the triage tent in the great beyond
Wherein the angel tangoes with the infidel

Normally I'd be angry
Normally I'd be pissed
But medical science is helpless
Helpless in a case like this
Better make mine a double
Serve it up with a twist
'Cause medical science is helpless
Helpless in a case like this

Nobody's gonna blame you
Scratch 'em right off the list
Medical science is helpless
Helpless in a case like this

I know you're gonna thank me later
For giving this one a miss
'Cause medical science is helpless
Helpless in a case like this
Normally I'd be angry
Normally I'd be pissed
But medical science is helpless
Helpless in a case like this


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 14:58:13 ET
Posted by: gagi, "How's my little girl?", etc.

doc, talk about tango -
argentinian, not brazil ;-)

the maestro with the moustache can't believe his luck, why he's got so much pre-orders from worldwide for his new release...


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 14:52:08 ET
Posted by: gagi, yurp

:))))))))))))))))))))))))


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 14:39:52 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Talk about dysinformation - Becker's doing the Brazilian record after all? not Donald...


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 14:18:57 ET
Posted by: gagi, etc

he's a gypsy-tango-style-musician, i guess.
he's released 1 or 2 cd's.


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 14:00:40 ET
Posted by: MF, Chicago

Gagi:
Who is that Gaucho also named Walter Becker?


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 11:32:52 ET
Posted by: Doc ,

oops - that was German site, not Danish

http://tinyurl.com/cvhsb


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 11:21:55 ET
Posted by: Doc ,

http://www.diversantdaily.ru/index.html?id=22163


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 11:03:06 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Morph: February release date

http://expressen.se/expressen/jsp/polopoly.jsp?a=498001


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 10:45:59 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Wow! Tangos and Other Sins.


Preview of 2006 - February 3rd release I think. or is it March 2nd? Wish I knew Danish. Babelfish can't translate.



DF along with Prince, Elvis Costello and Ray Davies

http://www.mysanantonio.com/entertainment/music/stories/MYSA010106.8Z.2006.music.1b729d08.html


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 09:15:22 ET
Posted by: Chrys, PA

OK, Walter, but how come there's just a title page? Or is there something wrong with my PC so that I can't enter it?

Anyway, GO WALT GO WALT GO WALT-- KICK MAJOR LEAGUE ASS, BUDDY

Let's get that CD out sooner rather than later, ah reet?

WALTER LIVES!


Oh, and Happy New Year, everyone

(except for you vile adolescent asswipes)


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 08:51:42 ET
Posted by: gagi, euröpe

superfine ;-))))))))))))


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 08:49:12 ET
Posted by: gagi, europe

check also walter becker's new style:

http://images.ciao.com/ide/images/products/normal/341/product-1470341.jpg


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 08:43:34 ET
Posted by: gagi, europe

walter becker's new release!!!

check ziz shit out...

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/hnum/1211524/rk/home/rsk/hitlist


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 03:42:54 ET
Posted by: You too LWO, How is the new job?

The one on the bunny ranch?


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 02:27:11 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, OMFG

WOW

WOW

Happy New Year Everyone!@


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 01:16:31 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

DF.com is still down, though. :-(


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 01:09:03 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

...it's "ultradank" and "superfine." Four stars!


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 01:06:53 ET
Posted by: Daddy G., NJ

Wow, in my excitement I couldn't even type my own handle right!

It ain't much yet, but www.walterbecker.com is actually there!!!


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 01:03:44 ET
Posted by: DAddy G, NJ

www.walterbecker.com !!!!


Date: Sun, January 01, 2006, 00:50:52 ET
Posted by: Hunker down, and read this post

Steely Dan once again ahead of their time...

2003's "hunker down" is now one of 2005's most annoying phrases.

Survey tracks 2005's most annoying phrases
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-12-31-banned-phrases_x.htm

Is it 2006 yet?


DECEMBER 2006 BlueBook Entries.




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