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Date: Thurs, April 30, 2009, 21:58:31 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island
I'll second the Mustang Ranch post!!
Thanks, Hoops! Haven't posted much recently, but check in at least several times a week, if not more.
Date: Thurs, April 30, 2009, 20:49:53 ET
Posted by: too much time on my hands, life on mars
1 euro = 1.33 usd
1 sterling pound = 1.48 usd
Date: Thurs, April 30, 2009, 20:28:09 ET
Posted by: Mustang Ranch,
You know...it's been a while since we've thanked Hoops for, not only, his excellent contributions to the site but the F*&$ing fact that he foots the bill to host this site...as everything else drops away due to the relentless profiteers, here we are being able to mind-meld in cyberspace.
Hoops, I heard a bit of your human cry with the concert-thing...my sincere "thank you" for being there for all of us lesser-so's.
Date: Thurs, April 30, 2009, 20:22:36 ET
Posted by: Mustang Ranch,
I remember listening to HATWW about 1.5 hundred times when it came out while shining that late '70s silver bowl...sublime. For what two of my coppers are worth, it's more about the places between the ears than any specific place...BTW revisting Van's "Common One" tonight...they broke the mold when they made that Mick.
Date: Thurs, April 30, 2009, 19:38:54 ET
Posted by: steely dana,
Hoops:
Absolutely agree with you about the new Dylan CD ....Great stuff !!
and the current edition of Rolling Stone is pretty much "all Bob Dylan, all the time".....lots of good stuff about Bob, his music, and his artwork.
Not too bad for an "old" guy who turns 68 next month :-)
Date: Thurs, April 30, 2009, 17:53:14 ET
Posted by: Jamie, Part II
I rarely delve into trying to decipher SD songs...just don't have the time. But since I referenced WesternWorld earlier, and now researching it due to, nothing better to do, I found the following:
"The Lido Shipyard Sausage Company is a restaurant in Newport Beach, CA.
I think Western World may be referring to the play "The Playboy of the Western World." It could be a loose metaphor for the Playboy mansion in LA, since for a while in the 70's there were two Playboy mansions, the original in Chicago and the one in L.A. called "Playboy Mansion West."
It's hard to imagine Donald Fagen and Walter Becker not going to the Playboy mansion, being huge rock stars in the 1970s. "
Help please?
Pe@ce,
HymroD
Date: Thurs, April 30, 2009, 17:39:53 ET
Posted by: Jamie, Lost in Plasticular Paradise- by the pool- La Jolla CA
Greetings and salutations...This is surely great news, brought to me in my in-box by Ticketbasturd this morning! I might even be in Florida for the Ruth Eckerd delight! ( I go home for my b-day, end of May, already have Mathisyahu+ Les Claypool lined up, WANEE festival has a sick line up in Florida this year, then the Dan? Bestill my heart!)
I wanted to say, this album format is quite popular....I recall seeing Rush perform "2112" in it's entirety, circa, 1994-96 ish. Another big name is doing the same thing, but it escapes me now...
I think Here at the Western World, might be one of the greatest songs ever recorded? IMHO...
Long may you Dan,
RoRo
Date: Thurs, April 30, 2009, 13:41:12 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
In terms of concert going I see that a lot of the "big acts" are still up there selling out at least the first show of a two show night and so forth.
At the same time I look at what shows I'm considering this year. If this were past years, I would have likely attended shows by Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, The Dead, Elton John, a few different things at the Jazz Showcase (in Chicago) and perhaps some other major arena show just so I could have had the chance to see certain players that I had not before).
Due to finances, job situation, etc. I only plan to see Leonard Cohen next week. If things were like past years, I would have seen him both nights that he is playing Chicago: it's been 15 years since he was on tour and who knows if he ever will again.
It would be great to see those other acts even if they play much the same thing, but I cringe to lay out that kind of money with things as they are. I simply can't do it.
Most all of us here are intense fans who make up a fraction of a percentage of Steely Dan fans. For those other fans who aren't quite as intense, I'd wager enough are in the same mindset as I am about seeing Bob Dylan, etc. There's enough of that to even chill sales at the kind of 3800-seat theatres that SD will be playing.
I get a kick out of SD's humor, calling it the "Rent Money Tour". But I can't help but wonder if that tour name doesn't inadvertently cause casual fans to think twice about the expense.
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Sorry I'm not up on this but what is the exchange rate between Ł, $, Euros, etc?
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The new Bob Dylan album has got me hooked the most since "Time Out of Mind" from about 11-12 years ago. Great!
Date: Thurs, April 30, 2009, 13:07:56 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, San Francisco
At least I now know they are coming to the Best Coast.
If I need to go to LA for an album show, I have plenty of family there.
Now if they could only get their dates set up and post them all instead of this trickling in crap.
Date: Thurs, April 30, 2009, 12:40:21 ET
Posted by: damiano,
deeper stuff/radio friendly, whatever. i'm never disappointed. u ppl expect too much!
Date: Thurs, April 30, 2009, 11:30:09 ET
Posted by: Janie Runaway, NY
I think it’s two-fold: the hard-core fans want to hear deeper cuts, not the same old show; the casual fans who went expecting to hear the radio hits left disappointed and won’t go see them again. Where does that leave us? I don’t know, smaller venues with hard-core fans, which would be GREAT, but only if they actually mix it up!
Date: Thurs, April 30, 2009, 11:08:22 ET
Posted by: hank,
Casual Fan - I think that people have caught on. Yes, the economy is bad and the show is on a Monday. I'm sure that doesn't help with selling tickets. But lets face it. What are you getting for $250? A one set show that lasts about 100 minutes. The same set list with one (maybe two) song changes. How many times are loyal fans going to support any band that operates like this?
And this whole gimmick with playing "full albums" is an illusion. If they choose the first three albums to play in their entirety give me a call. If it's Aja, Scam or Gaucho? Well, wouldn't that just be "déjŕ vu all over again"?
Date: Thurs, April 30, 2009, 06:48:59 ET
Posted by: damiano, london
250 bucks for two tickets? in london they're about 55 quid each. i got 2. in paris 78 quid each (also 78 euro), minimum, 115 quid max. i got 3 at 78. but it's a bit steep. i wouldn't want to do 78 too often. in monte carlo theyre 125 euro/quid but they throw in dinner "and the way karen was that night she was literally going to throw in dinner" (quote from Dirty Tricks by Michael Dibdin. funniest novel ever). we only get to see SD every two years, sometimes longer. u folks r lucky!
Date: Wed, April 29, 2009, 19:22:36 ET
Posted by: Irving Azoff, Laughing His Azz Off
The three main things that could be driving lower ticket sales?
1. The show never changes and they tour every 20 minutes
2. The show never changes and they tour every 20 minutes
3. The show never changes and they tour every 20 minutes
Don't worry--the tickets will sell out, just like...
Date: Wed, April 29, 2009, 18:26:25 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island
Casual Fan, as for me, I'm waffling on the St. Augustine gig. A few friends from here are going...but I'm in the camp that is a bit hesitant to shell out the money for what I'm fairly certain is going to be the same show I've seen roughly 11 times now (with few variations). I'm sure I'd love it if I went, but then I skipped last years tour and the only thing I regretted was not having seen "New Frontier".
On the other hand, the Boston show with the 3 album deal has a ton of appeal. Since my girlfriend lives up there and the setlist would have to be different, I'm seriously considering that one.
Still may end up in St. Augustine though. It's only 1.5 hours south. We'll see!
Date: Wed, April 29, 2009, 17:58:51 ET
Posted by: Whistlin' Past the Mable Orchard,
Maybe it's the fact that it's essentially the same band and tunes since '00 (despite Walt's less-than-coy marketing scheme). I guess most folks are just sayingto themselves, before plunking down the hare-earned beans, "been there, heard that (them)". Perhaps the boys need to see some empty seats to sharpen there touring acumen (I'm just sayin').
Date: Wed, April 29, 2009, 17:10:25 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, I'm concerned
Two years ago, when the Dan came through Orlando, they sold out in a day. Less actually.
Dan tickets have been on sale now for the show here this year, in a place half the size of the '07 locale, and if ticketmaster is any guide, they haven't even sold half the seats there, yet.
Curious as to people's thoughts? The three main things that, to me, could be driving lower sales are the general economic conditions, the fact that the show is on a Monday, and the fact that they've been here (or in Tampa) quite a bit in the last five years.
I'm just thinking that, overall, there aren't as many folks willing to shell out $250 for two tickets to an act they saw in the last two years on a Monday night. That's not me, of course. I'd pay more to catch them at 4 a.m. Sunday morning. But there's less of me than there used to be, it seems.
Wondering if anyone else is noticing lower sales for shows they are looking at.
Date: Wed, April 29, 2009, 16:05:03 ET
Posted by: Geoff, San Jose CA
JJ - yeah you're right... I was trying to calculate the result based on % of songs played from each album during 1993-2008 but I relied too much on mental arithmetic and hazy memories of what tracks are on each album.
Maybe I'll adopt Mark and Johnson's (from "Peep Show") approach and do a fucking kick-ass spreadsheet.
Geoff
Date: Wed, April 29, 2009, 14:43:40 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
Strangest of places? Stephen Colbert was rambling last night about his upcoming top-secret trip to entertain the troops in the Middle East, and was musing about what he needed to take along. He said something like "of course, Steely Dan poster, beanbag chair, ..."
Date: Wed, April 29, 2009, 14:43:21 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
Strangest of places? Stephen Colbert was rambling last night about his upcoming top-secret trip to entertain the troops in the Middle East, and was musing about what he needed to take along. He said something like "of course, Steely Dan poster, beanbag chair, ..."
Date: Wed, April 29, 2009, 13:43:08 ET
Posted by: Ha-ha, w
The Steely Damned are to The Fab Faux as The Steely Damned are to Steely Dan.
Date: Wed, April 29, 2009, 11:14:10 ET
Posted by: Walt's Doppelgänger, You like me. you really do!
Well that guy should open for Steely and do Dr. Wu!
2. I never stand in line for tickets.
3. I'm sure I don't know anyone named Perthington Penobscott, or whatever.
4. prince is a sad little man.
5. Fabulous Faux - I call them.
6. Play the entire You gotta Walk it LP, Donald!
Date: Wed, April 29, 2009, 10:54:43 ET
Posted by: hz, hz
this guys goot too much time on his hands - literally!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDHqI4LY3R8&feature=related
Date: Wed, April 29, 2009, 10:33:22 ET
Posted by: Happy Birthday, Edward Kennedy "Duke" Ellington (1899-1974)
http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200000/80000/0000/800/280876/280876.full.gif
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Duke%20Ellington
Date: Wed, April 29, 2009, 10:31:07 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Geoff- Pretzel Logic? Keep dreaming. It's going to be Aja, Gaucho and Scam. Bet your house on it!
Date: Wed, April 29, 2009, 10:26:21 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, heartbreak hotel
Totally in agreement with Geoff on his choices! And looking forward to some fun with the crew this summer.....
Date: Wed, April 29, 2009, 00:23:04 ET
Posted by: Aerial View, from my paranymphic glider
I'm very surprised that no one has yet mentioned Don & Walt's old buddy Chevy guest starring on "Chuck" the last couple weeks. And apparently everyone must have completely missed the fact that Chevy pulled some strings to bring D&W in for an uncredited guest appearance as a fictional musical duo in last night's season finale.
You can see for yourselves in this shot...
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/.a/6a00d834518cc969e201156f628ec0970c-800wi
...and read about it here...
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/04/chuck-finale-nbc-jeffster-awesome-sarah.html
More photos at the "band" page...
http://www.nbc.com/Chuck/exclusives/jeffster/
Date: Tues, April 28, 2009, 19:38:26 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, eh
I'm with you and Geoff on that one Denise. 2VN Has been my #1 for quite sometime now. Saving my pennies.
Date: Tues, April 28, 2009, 19:26:31 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
Geoff,
If they play TvN anywhere, I would travel to hear it. What a treat that would be!
Date: Tues, April 28, 2009, 18:24:13 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour!
Geoff,
If they play Pretzel Logic, instead of Gaucho, and they play "Through With Buzz", I'd better fucking be there to see it.
I also think I'd better see "With a Gun", too.
Date: Tues, April 28, 2009, 15:29:48 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Faux-Faux - You betcha I'm going to see Will Lee and Jimmy Vivino's band. I saw their show last year and it was superb!
I have no problem at all seeing top studio musicians playing classic music.
Date: Tues, April 28, 2009, 15:25:36 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando
I just hope that I can see the band over the mask I'll be wearing.
Date: Tues, April 28, 2009, 15:15:25 ET
Posted by: Geoff, Houston Airport
My guesses for the three classic album nights:
AJA and Royal Scam are obvious. I guess that Pretzel Logic will be the third - So we'll finally get a live "Through with buzz" and "With a gun".
But my picks would be, Two against nature, Everything must go and Can't buy a thrill (For "Kings" mostly).
Geoff
Date: Tues, April 28, 2009, 14:10:20 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando, evidently site of Swine Flu
So while we are all doing Dan show wish lists, I'll add in that I'd love to see Greenflower Street. The Rock and Soul Review version of that is primo.
Date: Tues, April 28, 2009, 11:53:13 ET
Posted by: Anderson,
steely dana - Thanks. Gina actually got that link from someone who posted on here yesterday.
Date: Tues, April 28, 2009, 11:50:39 ET
Posted by: The Faux Faux,
Hutch - You're seeing a tribute band play Revolver? That's like going to see the Steely Damned play Aja. Or Which One's Pink play Dark Side of the Moon.
I'm looking forward to the Steely Dan shows. At least Fagen is in that band.
Date: Tues, April 28, 2009, 11:29:30 ET
Posted by: steely dana,
Recent Devon Wendell interview with Donald Fagen....link is over on the Radio Dupree homepage.
Date: Tues, April 28, 2009, 10:42:39 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Chris - Yes there is, and I'll be at the Warner Theatre in D.C. this Saturday night to see The Fab Faux perform "Revolver" start to finish.
Same theatre where I saw DF in'06.
Date: Tues, April 28, 2009, 08:41:09 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
yeah, while I'm sure it'll be scam/aja/gaucho, there's something special about hearing an album start to finish.
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 22:02:11 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach
Is he Prince again? Who can keep track?
Secrets revealed? Oh, he is soooo mysterious.
I think I'll pass on this one.
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 22:00:39 ET
Posted by: Drew, San Luis Obispo
Here's last year's setlist in L.A.:
One set, 21 songs:
Main set: Overture (including arrangements of Everyone’s Gone to the Movies and The Fez) / The Royal Scam / I Got the News / Show Biz Kids / Everything You Did / Two Against Nature / Hey Nineteen / Godwhacker / Glamour Profession / New Frontier / Gaucho / Babylon Sisters / Parker’s Band / Third World Man / Josie / Aja / Love Is Like an Itching in My Heart (band intros) / Peg / Kid Charlemagne
Encore: Don’t Take Me Alive / FM (No Static
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 21:29:17 ET
Posted by: purple 1,
Prince will be interviewed on Tavis Smiley tonight on YOUR PBS affiliate. Check local listings. He will reveal certain secrets about himself and give an in-depth viewpoint of how sorry the music business is today, and the sea change that is taking place. And how he sold his latest record thru Target etc.
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 21:14:23 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach
DC,
Excellent call on the Stadium Pal.
http://www.stadiumpal.com/what-makes-it-work.htm
Since you don't have to worry about relieving yourself, might as well wear a CamelBak filled with your favorite refreshment:
http://www.camelbak.com/index.cfm
:#)
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 20:49:25 ET
Posted by: DC, DC
Rajah,
try the stadium pal, developed for hardcore baseball fans.
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 18:55:58 ET
Posted by: Zombie,
I would remind anyone bitching about ticketing impingement to look at the venue list on the SD website and note that, yet again, the only US concert locale that has "subcribers early on sale" is Atlanta...like Papa used to say, quityerbitchin...can I get a WTF on behalf of the ATL?
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 16:20:19 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
Hutch - they did Reelin' last year in a hybrid arrangement which started with Donald's AIA piano intro, then into the original Elliott Randall solo (well played by Jon)i nplace of the horns, then stuck close to the AIA version. Don't think they did it very often.
>Reelin' is probably the most well known song by SD and yet they only played it on one tour and even then it was a re-worked arrangement.
It's likely this could be the most requested song on the "takin' it to the seats" thing.
Doing the original arrangement with the guitar intro may be interesting. I think Jon would almost HAVE to play it note for note for it to be effective.
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 15:36:49 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Even if it is Royal Scam, Aja, and Gaucho, and we've heard it all before, it seems like it would still cool to go to a "Royal Scam Show" (or whichever) and hear them play that album AS that album. Couple that with the subsequent release of a "Royal Scam Live," "Aja Live," and "Gaucho Live" trilogy (I know, I know, it will never happen), and you've got something even the cynics could love.
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 15:31:16 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Well, fuck yeah, Batman, I'm peeing myself as we speak as I listen to this great live version of, "Box of Rain," from 1986 from the Dead and Allmans...
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 15:02:36 ET
Posted by: steely dana, va
Lots of bladder references today on The Blue......
Must be something in the water :-)
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 13:39:20 ET
Posted by: adorable ghost, CA
Holy Smokes.
"Special Setlist" and "Internet Request"????
I'm gonna pee my pants I'm so excited!
The boys are surely hookin' us up this year!
See you in LA!
AG
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 13:02:30 ET
Posted by: skokiebob, no sense of time
More great news, Thanks Jim. I saw one show at the CT, and forgot about missing the other. When the NYC folks took over our nice little world we had at CT came to an abrupt end. Used to be for $100 yearly membership you could e-mail your ticket requests (i.e. front row, dead center, Loge) for shows, and provided that they were being offered, you'd get them with no service fees. Then these guys took over, put you into a Ticketbastard pre-sale pool(although the TM charges were waived) and you took whatever popped up. Now, the membership isn't offered at all, only a newsletter type affair that alerts you to pre-sales. For my money, it's hard to beat those front row seats in the Loge, some of the best seats in the City I'd say, and now, a whole lot harder to get. Thanks again for the inside info.Maybe an AMEX or Citi pre-sale?
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 12:29:48 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
SkokieBob--
Just a quick update since it looks like you have been out of "The Loop".
The show at The Auditorium was two years ago and Steely Dan has since played on two separate occasions at the Chicago Theatre. For something like the past 18 months, the Chicago Theatre has been owned by a business partner of Steely Dan's manager who is also the owner of The Beacon in NYC. The Beacon is where Steely Dan has been playing many, many shows. (etc., etc., etc.)
For reasons involving those facts, I wouldn't look for Steely Dan to play any other venue in Chicago other than the Chicago Theatre this summer or for the foreseeable future--unless of course Steely Dan changes managers or there is some shuffle in venue ownership or the like.
Jim
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 12:21:26 ET
Posted by: skokiebob, Chicago
Really great news, missed the show at The Auditorium last tour. My biggest worry is that they play out in 1st Midwest Ampitheater, Worst venue in Chicagoland IMO, would taint the luck of being one of the "big city multi night stand" locations. Here's hoping for downtown shows, say, Chicago Theatre?
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 12:16:59 ET
Posted by: hoops, passing through on the quick
After reading Rajah's speculations on whether there will be one or two sets this year, I have but one response : Depends.
Jim
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 11:52:18 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
What I'm hoping for is that either Don or Walt develop a bladder control problem and are forced to take a break after 90 minutes. A proper rock and roll show has an intermission. Good for concessions, good for my own galloping bladder control issues as well.
Next time I see a Pat Metheny concert I plan on wrapping a man-diaper around my nether regions.
Realistically, the best we can hope for is maybe a song from Walty and maybe a ressurrected chestnut or two.
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 11:00:51 ET
Posted by: casual fan, standing somewhat corrected
Drew, I don't think we got 20 at Ruth Eckerd Hall last year, but I could very well be wrong about that. Regardless, whether it was 14 or 20, if there's no opening act, seems like maybe we might get a few more.
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 10:49:36 ET
Posted by: Drew, San Luis Obispo
The last tour had closer to 20 songs (including opening and closing instrumentals) in the set with shows nearing the two hour mark. I actually prefer that to the two sets because there is more momentum in the show.
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 10:14:51 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Like it matters
An observation: no supporting or intro act so far, it would seem. Hope this means two sets and a half dozen more songs, or at least a longer single set, with maybe 3 or 4 more than the standard 13 or so they have been playing the last couple of tours. Might be the room they need to add in a single from each.
Just a thought.
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 08:27:10 ET
Posted by: fezo, memorylosslane
of course, Walter did Gaucho in 2008. the year was so crappy i've pretty much blocked it out of my mind but i do have hazy memories of watching Walter's take on the tune via YouTube. much prefer him on "Haitian Divorce"
but to be a true track to track album cover doesn't the original lead singer need to be performing it live?
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 07:26:01 ET
Posted by: Donavin Prescott , Lakeville, MN
Dean - I happen to know Walter's Doppleganger and that wasn't him.
Moray eel - Very funny about Martha Wainwright coming out to sing Dr. Wu. That is definitely something DF would do. Or maybe since he feels that "Wu" is outdated, he'll rework it like he did "Here At The Western World". And wouldn't that be a shame?
I came across this page: It's a tribute to Manny's Music store in NYC. It's closing after 50 years in business. This site has a bunch of videos of famous musicians giving their reaction to the closing of the store. In this particular video, bass player Will Lee gives his thoughts. If you notice, the interview was held at the Bitter End in NYC. And if you listen carefully, you'll here "Black Cow" playing in the back ground. Doesn't Pete Fogel work at the Bitter End? He's always representing!
http://mannysmusic.ning.com/video/video/show?id=3071127%3AVideo%3A557
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 06:18:51 ET
Posted by: steely dana,
Enough with the "kvetching" about whether it is a marketing gimmick or not.......BE THANKFUL THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING SOME US SHOWS THIS SUMMER !!!!!
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 03:40:22 ET
Posted by: frank, .
why not Pretzel Logic ?
It contains hits, fav's & deep cuts.
They could have the whole thing over in 35mins if there sharp.
Date: Mon, April 27, 2009, 01:22:08 ET
Posted by: moray eel, poker table
Nice to see the Dan Fans are properly jaded.
Despite the positive news from SD.com, it seems to good to be true. I feel like Charlie Brown... and Lucy is getting ready to pull the football away again at the last second.
I have a feeling that even if Doctor Wu ends up getting the most votes, Fagen will probably bring out Martha Wainwright to sing it.
Wonder if the band ever gets tired of of playing Peg, Josie and Hey 19 at every show?
Well... anyway... kudos to Donald, Walter and the rest of the band for giving Dan Fans a reason to believe that they will be able to hear some of the deeper cuts in their catalog.
m.e.
Date: Sun, April 26, 2009, 21:29:45 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, ...
Gaucho-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dHUz-yL26Q&feature=channel_pag
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd4WH_Vn3sQ&feature=related
Date: Sun, April 26, 2009, 21:04:22 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach
Fezo,
Gaucho (the song) was a staple of the 2008 tour. Walter sang it.
BTW, I didn't mention, while in line to buy my Dan ticket, I spotted Walter's Doppleganger. Not sure if it is the one who posts here, but this guy was the spitting image of Walt.
Date: Sun, April 26, 2009, 21:00:15 ET
Posted by: fezo, digging in the dust
when, if at all, have our heroes done the title cut from Gaucho live?
Date: Sun, April 26, 2009, 20:41:33 ET
Posted by: book, of numbers
It's no secret that Scam/Aja/Gaucho have been well covered live. This whole classic album thing is nothing more than a contrived gimmick if they don't use it on ones that have has a good number of songs yet to be done in concert.
Date: Sun, April 26, 2009, 19:05:42 ET
Posted by: J. Hindle,
I like how WB/DF give the impression that this year's
tour is taking on a more precarious bent when in fact,
they're just fucking w/ us.
They must think we're really stupid or somfin'.
Date: Sun, April 26, 2009, 15:21:22 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, nudeyawksit-hey
It seems pretty obvious the 3 albums that will be played are Royal Scam, Aja & Gaucho. I believe the only song not played from these, or lost in my memory, is My Rival. It has been a long time since Sign in Stranger was last performed. With the recent addition of I've Got the News, the Aja album was completed live. Everything You Did completed Scam. I figure the album playing will be the 2nd half of the gig. 45 minutes of cuts-album-2 encores. As posted elsewhere, the other gigs-request format-if DF &/or WB are not comfortable playing a tune, they will not play that song. It would be cool if this was a call-in or pick-fan-from-crowd request gig. I think VH-1 (?) had this format a number of years ago with several artists. Regardless, as usual, I will attend several if not all NYC concerts. And again, I will request, should this forum in any possible way be read by those who can make a difference, the following songs I have not heard/seen performed live in the nearly 20+ years I've been fortunate to witness this great band/vocalist, starting with those Rock & Soul type gigs at the Cat & China Clubs & the Lone Star Roadhouse etc. etc.
Dr. Wu, Kings, King of the World, Throw Back the Little Ones, Almost Gothic.
There, I said it. Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Date: Sun, April 26, 2009, 15:19:18 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, nudeyawksit-hey
It seems pretty obvious the 3 albums that will be played are Royal Scam, Aja & Gaucho. I believe the only song not played from these, or lost in my memeory, is My Rival. It has been a long time since Sign in Stranger was last performed. With the recent addition of I've Got the News, the Aja album was completed live. Everything You Did completed Scam. I figure the album playing will be the 2nd half of the gig. 45 minutes of cuts-album-2 encores. As posted elsewhere, the other gigs-request format-if DF &/or WB are not comfortable playing a tune, they will not play that song. It would be cool if this was a call-in or pick-fan-from-crowd request gig. I think VH-1 (?) had this format a number of years ago with several artists. Regardless, as usual, I will attend several if not all NYC concerts. And again, I will request, should this forum in any possible way be read by those who can make a difference, the following songs I have not heard/seen performed live in the nearly 20+ years I've been fortunate to witness this great band/vocalist, starting with those Rock & Soul type gigs at the Cat & China Clubs & the Lone Star Roadhouse etc. etc.
Dr. Wu, Kings, King of the World, Throw Back the Little Ones, Almost Gothic.
There, I said it. Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Date: Sun, April 26, 2009, 12:11:39 ET
Posted by: Anderson,
"And who's to say the vote thing can't be rigged to appear any way Don and Walt want it to be? You know they aren't going to play anything they don't feel comfortable with "
I'm not sure who posted this but it's spot on. No matter what votes come in they'll play what they want. After all these years D&W can't fool us anymore!
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 23:17:53 ET
Posted by: The Power of Blue,
1. Boston Rag was sho' nuff prophetic. But it still took the recent, persistent, pointed, knife-edged complaining about the setlists to seal the deal to initiate and create change to the setlists, or at least the implied intent for the Dan to do so,
2. best jazz lp: YEAH, and Kulee Baba, Come Back Baby etc. That early/unreleased stuff has potential.
3. Entire LP sides would be cool, and I do think CTE would be the BEST candidate. It has several cuts such as King of the World and YGT that can be milked and improvised like the Phish and The Dead style. If you listened carefully at some shows last year, Show Biz Kids was tweaked with some improv.
4. I fugging ABHOR the idea of the "average" fan "voting" for the setlist. A few of the previous posts were correct in worrying about this voting actually making the setlist WORSE, by dominating it with Greatest Radio Hits. This setlist voting is best left in the hands of individuals who know better. You don't hand a three year old a loaded gun, or other than a knowledgeable Danfan the right to vote. My posse and I will will be watching these initial setlists CLOSELY, and will choose carefully whether or not to attend if and when the tour gets close to our town.
5. I have NO problem whatsoever if Solo Don and Solo Walt are added to the setlist mix. This would provide material from 14 LPs instead of the original 9 from the Dan, and much of which has NEVER been performed LIVE. Now THAT would be The Shit. It might even provide the impetus to follow the Dan around from venue to venue like Girl M., LWO and others. Well, maybe....don't want to get TOO carried away here....
6. Bottom line--the squeaky wheel GOT the grease, we are going to see something different. And as much as some do not want to admit it, we must give a big thumbs up, thanks, and "proper propers"-- there can be little doubt that the good suggestions, bitching and whining about the setlists here on the Blue, the past several years was heard and caused at least an attempt at change by the boys and their handlers to the Steely Dan Show.
The POWER of the Blue.
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 20:22:59 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Nostradamus Rag
From my January 1, 2003 post. You can thank me now, although it did take Don and Walt 6 years to implement, sheesh:
Boston Rag, 2003 Tour Wish List
Happy New Year Dan Fans!
Wow! 2003 to bring a new CD and a possible tour!
I can't wait and I'm now in the habit of checking the ODP at least
twice a day!
Although it's great that there will be a possible tour this summer, I have to say the novelty of it has worn off a bit. After being starved in the 70's to see them in concert and then in the 80's to get a product out, the 90's, it goes without saying, was much more satisfying being a Dan Fan. I never thought I would see 4 Steely Dan tours in a 7 year span. So where I am I going with this?
Well, I want to see something different this time around. Something to spice up the Steely Dan live show. I remember about 10 years ago seeing an Elvis Costello show and he brought up a giant roulette wheel and invited audience members to write song names and post them up on the wheel. Then he pulled someone else out of the audience and asked them to spin the wheel. Elvis and his band broke into the song the wheel landed on. It was pretty cool. I can imagine the laughs that Donald and Walter could get setting this up. "It's time for the Wheely Dan portion of the show!".
The band Phish used to do a lot of cool things during their live shows, including playing a large chunk of one of their albums from start to finish. I'd love to see "Katy Lied" played in it's entirety from "Black Friday" to "Throw Back The Little Ones". Then in the next town, they could do the complete "Royal Scam" in the 2nd set. You would never know what you would get from show to show.
Just a couple of suggestions to punch it up a bit! However, they could come out and play anything and I'd be there drooling.
See you there this summer!
Mark in Boston
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 19:23:33 ET
Posted by: best jazz lp, last set at newport
i agree with deano boston has to be extra special: katy lied and everything must go. then they can have a special release of katy lied to have the world hear what it should have sounded like.
if they really wanna freek people out (a trait they DO have in them - hey dan have some fun for once in your life!!) they should do freek night in boston (of course they gootta find anton to intro)
sail
dallas
fall 92
bear got you
3 sister
seawall
kullee
cant write home
megashine city
cash island
wetside
etc
<<Don was never happy with the way the sound on Katy's final release...here's an opportunity to let the fans hear it the way you intended. One of the new ones would be great, but they probably don't qualify as "Classic" to the average fan.
Another stunt setlist I'd love is one featuring the solo work of Walt, with some Dan favorites thrown in as a bonus.
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 17:38:32 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, NYseeyarealsoon
KINGS
DR. WU
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 17:16:06 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Gotta agree that the "classic albums" thing will definitely be Aja, Scam, and Gaucho. Not breaking any new ground there. Would love to hear one of the first four, but its not gonna happen.
And who's to say the vote thing can't be rigged to appear any way Don and Walt want it to be? You know they aren't going to play anything they don't feel comfortable with. My guess is that this is a marketing scheme cooked up by their managment. "
Amen ...... One Hundred Percent Correct me Steelian Brother .
J. Fly !
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 15:52:59 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, TN
Well, if they bring out some of the oft requested songs (like Dr. Wu) for one night, they may include them on the sets in other cities. One would think that if they have the band ready to play all of the songs from three albums that they might play any of the songs from those three albums any night.
That being said, if they do Katy Live (that's what I'm calling it), I wanna be there. How much is a Greyhound ticket from Tennessee to LA?
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 15:37:39 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach
Good point, SS. Also, don't forget Van Morrison is out there playing Astral Weeks live, speaking of quirky.
I'd love to hear Countdown, or Katy Lied. Don was never happy with the way the sound on Katy's final release...here's an opportunity to let the fans hear it the way you intended. One of the new ones would be great, but they probably don't qualify as "Classic" to the average fan.
Another stunt setlist I'd love (but is not being offered) is one featuring the solo work or Don and Walt, with some Dan favorites thrown in as a bonus.
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 14:09:07 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
Playing an entire album live might be in vogue right now.
Ben Folds Five reunited last September to play their final album, The Unauthorized Biography of Reinhold Messner(1999). It was meant to be the first in a series of live shows by different bands doing one entire album called 'Front to Back' for Myspace.
On the album, one of the songs was a telephone message left on Ben Folds' answering machine by his father, mixed with the band playing some jazzy background music. Sure enough, to do it live they brought out Ben Folds' dad and he stood there and read a transcript of the lengthy message he'd left that morning on the answering machine.
Let's hope SD takes up the challenge and goes for something quirky.
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 14:08:23 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
I'm starting a "vote for The Boston Rag In Boston" campaign early. Remember 2000? I mean, they opened with it every night, but remember how fuckin' awesome it was to hear it in (near) Boston? Given the fact that they no longer play the big-ass sheds, this year will probably actually be IN Boston, making it even more appropriate.
So, I implore you, VOTE FOR THE BOSTON RAG IN BOSTON!
(This will be the first of several posts expressing how strongly I feel about this, apologies in advance.)
How about the fahkin' weather in New England, eh? I'm going outside.
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 13:16:44 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
Marksie
Here at the Western World was recorded during the sessions for The Royal Scam album...at ABC Studios in LA, and A&R Studios in NYC.
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 12:52:34 ET
Posted by: Marksie, Barrie, Ontario, Canada
Question for the board about something I've always wondered. When and where was "Here at the Western World" recorded?
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 11:34:23 ET
Posted by: Fritz, Philly
Gotta agree that the "classic albums" thing will definitely be Aja, Scam, and Gaucho. Not breaking any new ground there. Would love to hear one of the first four, but its not gonna happen.
And who's to say the vote thing can't be rigged to appear any way Don and Walt want it to be? You know they aren't going to play anything they don't feel comfortable with. My guess is that this is a marketing scheme cooked up by their managment.
With that said...BRING ON THE TOUR! See you at The Beacon.
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 08:55:59 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Reelin' is probably the most well known song by SD and yet they only played it on one tour and even then it was a re-worked arrangement.
It's likely this could be the most requested song on the "takin' it to the seats" thing.
Doing the original arrangement with the guitar intro may be interesting. I think Jon would almost HAVE to play it note for note for it to be effective. It really wouldn't be a problem to do that since his intro to DTMA is pretty much note for note.
I just noticed that the back up choir has a new member for the Europe shows:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0671648/resume
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 08:24:01 ET
Posted by: Idolize me!,
I hate to be the one breaking bad news in room 18A but...
Hoops makes a very good point. Steely Dan has played 99% of Aja, Gaucho, EMG, 2VN and the Royal Scam over the years. These will be the five "whole" albums that they will choose from. So if you've seen this band a ton (like most of us here) you still won't be hearing anything new. I mean, if you really think that they're going to play Can't Buy A Thrill, Countdown to Ecstasy and Pretzel Logic(or even Katy Lied) in it's entirety, you're nuts!
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 08:10:57 ET
Posted by: Panera, just loafing
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 08:08:59 ET
Posted by: steely dana,
Very cool idea, Donald and Walter !!!!
Can't wait for more info......
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 02:10:23 ET
Posted by: suedave, out west
I like the news.
Date: Sat, April 25, 2009, 01:13:02 ET
Posted by: Gauchoamigo, North Hollywood
This is great news! I can't stand up right now. I wonder if they will do the same albums in each city, or different albums? Hoops, I may see you in Chicago again this year.
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 23:58:03 ET
Posted by: Casual fan, orlando
Dean, interesting take. I'll add a couple of thoughts here about the voting scenario.
First, it might end up being sort of like the difference between polling voters, and those likely to actually vote. A large number of people going to one of the select Dan shows probably won't even know or bother to understand the voting option. Of those that do, a significant number will opt for the songs they know, which will be of the radio hit variety, I suspect.
Second, I wonder if the ticket brokers will bother to vote? Or give the option to the person buying the tix second hand? Wonder how that will work.
In the end, my suspicion is that the internet voting shows will most likely end up being greatest hits shows: Hey 19, Peg, FM, Deacon Blues, BB Sisters, Black Friday, Rikki, Kid C, Do It Again, Aja, My Old School. That's eleven right there.
But one can always hope that folks will hit "Third World Man" and the like by accident, right?
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 23:22:11 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach
Very interesting stuff, fellow Danfans.
Very cool news, although I am sure some will use this as an excuse to bitch about something new, "We got screwed in Florida!" (fill in your city, state, region, etc.) or some other like nonsense.
I have to buy my tickets for St Augustine, tomorrow morning, and it did make me pause for a moment. But, I know I can't miss the show down the street from where I live, so I will happily go early to the box office and buy my ticket for the local gig. But, I am going to have to make a major effort to see one of the themed shows in one of the major markets, too. LA may have to be the themed show, for me.
Anyway, many of us here have been looking for a deeper cuts show, with some songs that have yet to be played, or have been rarely played. But, it is funny that many fans (and some critics) who go to Dan shows are disappointed they don't get to hear all the "hits".
The differentiated special set lists may work to appease both ends of the spectrum.
Classic Album (Plus) Night will be a deeper cuts show, at least in theory. But, given that Scam, Aja and Gaucho seem the likely candidates, plenty of hits, and much of the stuff they have been playing, will be part of the show and what sounds like a night for those looking for a deeper set list could end up being about the same mix as in past shows. The X-Factor is the "plus" If the Dan includes deeper cuts from other albums, then this really could be the show many have clamored for. X-Factor 2 would be if they played a different album than the ones mentioned.
Takin' It To The Seats" Internet Request Night, on its face, would look to shape up as the "greatest hits" concert the radio dan fans have been missing. Certainly Reelin and Do it Again, Riki, Hey 19, FM, etc will be the popular choices...right? Or will they? I think some certainly will, but that brings us to the X-Factor for this theme: This could be the test market for what Dan fans REALLY want. If there really are more closet Dan-heads that are looking for some of the little/never played tunes, this has the opportunity to turn into an "obscure fest". Remember, fans drive these kind of Internet polls. But, assuming they will tie it to a ticket sale, and there is no chance to vote multiple times, then I can't believe many of the obscurities will garner enough total votes to break into the lineup. (I wonder how many requests you get to make?) Anyway, even if it doesn't result in many "obscure" songs, if these songs gain enough votes, in total, it might send a message. What message, and to whom, is anyone's guess.
There is a possibility that both of these special set lists seem fairly similar to each other and pretty familiar to those who have been to past Dan shows.
Needless to say, tomorrow is Dan ticket day...and the NFL draft.
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 23:16:15 ET
Posted by: TheBendingEnd, Rhode Island
Thanks, Robert.
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 22:29:28 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
What a news letter! What a way to
start the weekend! I'm with you
hoops, "Katy Lied!" "Rose Darling",
"Wu", "Bad Sneakers". Hell, I'd even
take just side A. We have a radio
station here in LA that on Wednesdays
plays sides from LP's all day. Real
vinyl. You can even hear the needle.
This week on the veranda I heard,
Side A from "Katy Lied" followed by side
3 of "Quadrophenia", followed by side
B of "Breakfast In America" closed off
with "Johnny Cash Live At Folsom Prison"
side B. What a hoot and thought to
myself I would love to see a Steely Dan
show with complete sides of records.
And now this. I'm not holding my breath
for "Katy", but this will be blast this
summer. Last year after all those years
playing that horrific "hole" out in Irvine,
Steely Dan finally came back home to downtown
LA and what a reception they got from that
crowd. Remember, they played everything
from "Gaucho" that night sans "My Rival".
LA for sure and either Chicago or NYC
with my "Mad Money". This "Internet Request"
will be a hoot also, reminds me of when Elvis
Costello had the "Wheel Of Songs" night when
I lived in Chicago. Pure bliss. I'd still
love to hear Jon @ Walter have a go at "King
Of The World". On "Aja" nights they will
have to play "Deacon". Don't worry Bamma
& Florida, I bet you are going to get some
fun warm up shows before they hop the pond.
"Promotions, packages, and other sundry goodies"?
Can't wait! But spill the beans! We need to make
plans!
Have a safe & "warm" weekend all
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 20:54:49 ET
Posted by: steely fan, nj
I also thought Scam, Aja, Gaucho but I'll go on a limb and say Countdown instead of Gaucho.
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 20:23:57 ET
Posted by: Gonna crack open, the piggybank
Great idea on the setlist nights.
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 20:22:36 ET
Posted by: AV, Ah
So those two disappearing posts reappeared after all. Wouldn't have reposted had I known (I tried a few refreshes), but oh well, no harm done...
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 19:08:26 ET
Posted by: Aerial View, swag
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the T-shirts and assorted swag were geared toward the spotlight album of the night on those dates, but who knows...
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 19:09:29 ET
Posted by: angel, LA Now, NY Later
..and how cool is that? OMG!
I never thought I would live to see the day. We can buy into a non greatest hits show?
Can't wait to see dates and set types. :-)
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 19:13:58 ET
Posted by: Aerial View, Swag
I wonder if any of the swag will be designed and geared toward the spotlight albums on pertinent dates? Hmmm...
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 19:02:59 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
BTW:
I think the three albums will be Gaucho, Aja and Scam. I believe that the only tracks they haven't had in a show off of these albums are "My Rival" and, arguably, "The Fez" which they have done as an instrumental.
So I am excited, but given those are probably the albums, I don't think I would go as far as to say HFS.
I'd love for them to do my favorite Dan Studio album live, "Katy Lied", but I don't think they will.
Jim
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 19:00:01 ET
Posted by: HFS_ED_BEATTY, ON LOCATION
HFS
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 18:59:15 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Well, that's a great way to keep things fresh.
Mike...it doesn't mean they won't be playing Philly (or Camdem). I believe it means that only NYC, Boston, Chicago and L.A. will have multi-night stands with the album feature. Now if you think you are still getting screwed, well, consider a victims' support group.
Sounds fun!
[ The concerts, that is--not so much the victims' support group. ]
Jim
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 17:33:31 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
hey, i like this!
I wonder how the shows will turn out. Will most ticket holders vote for a greatest hits show?
That's probably what the majority of them will want.
On the other hand, how many people will actually take the time to vote? Will it just be the hardcore fans?
Either way, kudos to Steely Dan for changing it up, and for giving Boston some love (although Boston is by far the most deserving of those cities for having the best crowds year after year :) )
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 17:30:48 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
I think it's inevitable we will finally hear them 'Do the Wu'
wow!
here's hoping they use the UK dates as an oppurtunity to give some deep cuts a run out
once again......wow!
I'd still sacrifice all this for another studio album though!
PS: Can I start a campaign for 'Your Gold Teeth II' right here?
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 17:30:36 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, outside philly
Does this mean Philly is gonna get the shaft???? Looks like I'm going to be heading up the turnpike a few times..... Better start saving now....
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 17:23:20 ET
Posted by: Aerial View, Hmmmm
Now those could be interesting...
I wonder about the internet voting. My guess would be a limited selection of tunes available for voting rather than the entire core catalog. (I think it's very safe to assume no unofficial stuff like 2nd Arr.) Will Rikki or Wu be an option? Solo stuff including C$?
I also wonder which three classic albums. My guesses based on past playlists would be Scam, Aja, and Gaucho.
Stay tuned, I guess...
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 17:17:52 ET
Posted by: HeyMike, this
is gonna be cool!
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 17:16:36 ET
Posted by: casual fan, Orlando, site of same old, same old
Whaaaaaa.....
We don't get no special set list down here in Otown. Guess we are likely to see the standard show in June. Well, guess I can hope they are in Boston at end of September, when I will be there for a mini-vaca.
In the meantime, whaaaaaa....
Date: Fri, April 24, 2009, 17:10:21 ET
Posted by: Aerial View, SD Newsletter just arrived
Steely Dan Newsletter: Issue #40
April 24 2009
*************************
|||||||||||||||||||||||||
Breaking news! Steely Dan's Rent Party '09 Tour will include multi-night stands of special setlist shows in New York, Boston, Los Angeles, and Chicago.
All evenings of these special engagements
will offer one of the following programs:
* CLASSIC ALBUM (PLUS) Night
Setlist is one of three classic Steely Dan albums
in its entirety -- plus selected additional favorites
* "TAKIN' IT TO THE SEATS" INTERNET REQUEST Night
Setlist is determined by the internet votes
of ticket-holders for that show
Of course, before you buy a ticket, you'll know which
of the setlists above will be played on that night.
Dates for these special engagements
-- and more details about everything --
will be coming soon.
Also watch for news about promotions, packages,
and other sundry goodies
******************
United States RENT PARTY '09 Tour
NOTE: Additional dates will be posted online as they are confirmed.
Special setlist dates will be clearly identified
by a | SPECIAL SETLIST | notation
Jun 09 - Durham, NC - Performing Arts Center
Jun 12 - Clearwater, FL - Ruth Eckerd Hall
Jun 13 - Boca Raton, FL - Mizner Park Amp.
Jun 15 - Orlando FL - Bob Carr
Jun 16 - Ft. Meyers, FL - Barbara B Mann
Jun 18 - St. Augustine, FL - St. Augustine Amphitheatre
Jun 19 - Orange Beach, AL - The Wharf
Aug 15 - Atlanta, GA - Chastain
Many of the dates above are on sale now... the rest will be on sale soon. Visit http://steelydan.com for the latest dates and ticket links.
******************
European LEFT BANK HOLIDAY Tour
= Jun 25 - Amsterdam, Holland - Heineken Music Hall
= Jun 26 - Brussels, Belgium - Forest National
= Jun 28 - Edinburgh, Scotland - Edinburgh Playhouse
= Jun 29 - Birmingham, UK - NIA
= Jul 01 - London, UK - Hammersmith Apollo
= Jul 02 - Paris, France - Olympia
= Jul 04 - Montreux, Switzerland - Montreux Jazz Fest
= Jul 06 - Rome, Italy - Cavea Auditorium
= Jul 08 - Padova, Italy - Villa Contarini
= Jul 09 - Milan, Italy - Arena Civica
= Jul 11 - Perugia, Italy- Umbria Jazz Festival
= Jul 12 - Monte Carlo, Monaco - Sporting Club
All dates are on sale now.
Ticket links are at
http://steelydan.com
Until Next Time...
Date: Thurs, April 23, 2009, 21:53:46 ET
Posted by: Casual fan, orlando
This young songwriter listened to "old Steely Dan" and came up with song titles like "Fetal Horses."
I weep for the future.
http://www.americansongwriter.com/2009/04/john-vanderslice-rattles-his-cage-on-upcoming-album/
Date: Thurs, April 23, 2009, 15:26:44 ET
Posted by: googlaaa, hRTDtbdKPtLWyToiZi
QKfLyn http://google.com
Date: Thurs, April 23, 2009, 15:22:39 ET
Posted by: marksie, Barrie, Ontario Canada
NEVER MIND!! With the help of my kid I found it on youtube. Thanks anyway.
Date: Thurs, April 23, 2009, 14:43:41 ET
Posted by: Marksie, Barrie, Ontario, Canada
My computer crashed a few weeks back and I lost a lot of rare mp3 tracks including SD's "Sail the Waterway". I managed to recover "Dallas". I've been scouring the net looking for copies of the single or even that European EP that both were on. Does anyone here know of any way to legally obtain a copy of "Sail the Waterway"
Date: Thurs, April 23, 2009, 13:46:12 ET
Posted by: NYB, CDC # B33920
Ya see now you're just being arbitrary... Jesus Christ could land from the sky in a UFO with free coupons to Arby's and you'de throw 'em the hell out of here! That's your way.
Santana??? Carlos Santana can't carry my pick! If I used a pick, which I don't.
You'll be sorry when the aliens find this recording after mankind is extinct and bring me back to life just to see how I did it! YES YOU WILL! And I'll say "Destroy them with those green laser beam things coming out of your heads!" and they will obey! YOU'LL BE POWERLESS TO STOP ME THEN!!!
ACCEPT BILL AS YOUR MASTER OR WE WILL TAKE YOUR SUN!!!
YOU HAVE 5 MINUTES TO COMPLY!!!
Date: Thurs, April 23, 2009, 13:18:43 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
NYB, quit guitar and quit posting
Date: Thurs, April 23, 2009, 13:08:12 ET
Posted by: NYB, Live at Cielo Drive
Jesus Christ! I mean it was the best I could do in 5 minutes. I have other things around here to do y'know... Like breaking Jim's balls for instance (which I haven't done it a while, but as I recollect it was pretty fun!).
I'm sorry if it's mistaken for Steely Dan. I mean let's face it, they ain't never gonna be that good no matter how they try. They could get Jeff Baxter and wire his brain to Larry Calton and it gonna be that good!
Now if you'll excuse me, I think I'll give StAlphonso yet another reason to run down to CVS Pharmacy for a bottle of Excedrin.
Date: Thurs, April 23, 2009, 12:37:43 ET
Posted by: C. Santinella,
NYB -
Is that your tasteless, Santana-wanna-be guitar endlessly droning thru the verse/chorus sections and totally missing the boat into the bridge section?
Horrible!!!
Date: Thurs, April 23, 2009, 09:10:52 ET
Posted by: geez, yg
it sounds like shit too. take it off the internets least someone thinks its official.
gag.
Date: Thurs, April 23, 2009, 07:40:05 ET
Posted by: NYB, daylight zombie
This took me about 10 minutes...
http://www.banyantrees.net/music/sd_nyb.mp3
Do you have any idea how long that is in Steely Dan years? I missed at least 2 commercials while watching "Deadliest Catch" for this. And yet I have recieved no Lear jet, no keys to the estate, no personal assistant, no entourage of Hawaiian Tropic babes, and no limo to transport me to The Home Depot...
What the hell gives here!
Date: Thurs, April 23, 2009, 00:37:54 ET
Posted by: zeusy, oh ive been around
hey hooper.
im not thrilling to deal with the big venue thing for this year's dantourapalousa. and you know me, i used to just jones for the amazingly wonderful danfests tooo.
do you think you could talk dan into doing a house concert at my place. house concerts are all the rage you know????
i'd even get jerome to do the intro.
me, i'm feelin groovy baby!
hz
Date: Wed, April 22, 2009, 22:47:18 ET
Posted by: listen to stelly, or real jazz
Gary Burton Quartet Revisited with Pat Metheny Steve Swallow and Antonio Sanchez
Calvin Theatre - Northampton, MA
Friday, June 19th • 8:00 PM • tix on sale friday
In these times you want something real, elegant and timeless. you still need to get out and feel the excitement and joy of spring/summer at its best. take in fine art and music.
i submit, for your pleasure, this concert in paradise city. the best of the best will be playing for you. go and be happy. eat at a great restaurant, before and/or after and be happier.
ok. name someone who plays vibes better than gary burton. well, you can't.
pat metheny is a MAJOR guitarist, composer and innovator.
mr swallow makes it look and sound effortless.
and antonio sanchez is the best "new" drummer on the scene today. amazing.
bring your music students - bring your family. show them real music.
one of these will get you there:
http://www.nbotickets.com/venue_areas.asp
http://www.iheg.com/calvin_theater_main.asp
check em out at you tube. imagine how good they'll sound in person!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVbClndMfzM
Date: Wed, April 22, 2009, 20:54:20 ET
Posted by: I need, Tums
I know that The Nightfly was nominated for Album of the Year, but never knew IGY was up for song of the year in '82. Beaten to Toto on both.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_EDZMkl3bc
Date: Wed, April 22, 2009, 20:43:11 ET
Posted by: melancholy man, the cry room, off to the side of the main church
perpetual tourers, all musicians and The Dan shall be.
"victims" all, of musical Piracy
they shall live off the fat of the land, the hay in the loft.
never more to sow and grow, in the studio.
the fields will lie fallow.
resigned they are now, having to now travel from port to port, city to city.
having become Pirates of a sort themselves scavenging what plunder or booty they can port to port, city to city.
what does this all mean?
this probably means there will be no more F-ing SD studio records!
Date: Wed, April 22, 2009, 20:41:02 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy
Hi Hoops and Dantastic Folks,
I'm a long-time Dan Fan, first-time Blue Booker. I'm planning on grabbing 2 or 3 tix and making a roadtrip around the Durham show. If plans fall through, what's the best way to sell my tickets to real fans (for face value of course) or anyone else? Has anyone dealt with Stubhub or similar sites with positive results? It would stink to miss the show, but also to eat the tickets!
Thanks
Date: Wed, April 22, 2009, 12:58:48 ET
Posted by: steely dana, va
New Levon Helm CD, "Electric Dirt", due out June 30.
Date: Wed, April 22, 2009, 10:54:29 ET
Posted by: BillfromPgh,
Denny sighting:
http://crawdaddy.wolfgangsvault.com/Article/The-Return-of-Spanky-and-Our-Gang.html?page=2&cpage=1
In September, Spanky and Our Gang performed a house concert for her friend Kelly Carlin McCall. Kelly is George’s daughter, and Spanky and George had been close since her Chicago days. When the iPhone was released in 2007, George made his first call to Spanky. The house concert was the first time Spanky had seen Kelly since George’s funeral. Using the driveway as a stage, they sang and played to an enthusiastic crowd that included Denny Dias, from Steely Dan, and his wife.
Just finished reading this and came here to link to it but found that someone (calling himself Dinky) had beat me to it.
Date: Wed, April 22, 2009, 10:20:52 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, orlando
Allow me to be the first (and to make folks jealous). Fourth row, smack dab between WB and Herrington (if usual set-up), at the Bob Carr. Sweeeeet!
Date: Wed, April 22, 2009, 00:14:14 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @home
No offense taken Jim. To my recollection they haven't played a 'big shed' in awhile anyways. There's always the Riverside or the Pabst Theater but I think you might be right on with the Chicago Theater again.
I just hate the waiting......
KC
Date: Tues, April 21, 2009, 21:00:04 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
"WTF is up with the trickling of dates?"
Huh?
This is all pretty much the same as some other spurts of touring since summer 2006. Unlike 1993-2003, I hold that Steely Dan has just been on one big long tour since Milwaukee 2006 with breaks in between. So if they don't hit your town in the coming months, they will sooner or later--even if "later" slips into 2010.
As you maybe have read in the news stories about Irving Azoff and his plans for Ticketmaster, etc. Music acts don't make money from recordings anymore. They need to keep touring to make money.
Sooo...
The dates appear as contracts get signed, as venues know the holes in their schedule, etc. They see how the tickets are selling to see if they should do a lot of shows in one area or only a few. This is usual.
They can start by doing a short leg in one area as a warm up. Examples: in 1994, this was Japan. In 2003, this was the California wine country and state fairs.
Then they hit a big area.
Maybe they switch continents.
As alluded to in recent items here and in the Dandom Digest and elsewhere, here's the way I see it, likely what's happening and probably what will come.
They will do some warm up dates "touring the Southland" in the first part of June--the equivalent of the Wine Country/State Fair thing, for example. AL, NC, FL, etc. If you can hit a date then, then you will probably get to hear something on those early dates that will later get dropped.
Then for late June they will go to Europe. (Dates already showing up.)
They will probably be done with Europe after three or four weeks. (I mean how long can they stay there?)
Mid-July, they come home to the USA, rest up a week or two, then they hit the main USA part of the touring late July or Early August. If they make it a two-month tour in the USA (and Canada), look for them to take a week off in late August or around Labor day, hit the road after and wind down in mid September or so. If there's only one leg, then they wind down around Labor Day. So far we have the mid-August date in Atlanta. Chastain always has to get their season ticket holders the advance info so that's why we are seeing that date now; we'll have to wait for the rest. Ditto for the fests.
With the Beacon rehabbed, I'd place my bets on another stand at the Beacon around late July, early August. If they play dates in the midwest, I'd wager they will play the Chicago Theatre.
That's how it's shaping up. Not too different from previous years (since 1993-1994). And I will say it again, 1993-94 was basically one tour. They did mostly the Northeast and Great Lakes in '93, revisited some of those in '94 and finished on the West Coast in 1994.
The one thing I dislike is when some get all whiny and disturbed that they are being "fucked over" (the words used last year by some) because no date in their area has been announced YET. (No one has done that hereon the Blue yet, but others have in private emails send to me via the Dandom Digest--so please don't think I'm talking about anyone on the Blue, etc, etc.) Be patient.
So geez...relax and chill. When I buy tickets I wait until right near the event. That's the way to go in a lot of situations.
I'm very pleased about one thing. They WON'T play Milwaukee Summerfest! (Nothing personal, Kid Clean! In fact you have made it worth while in the past.) At Marcus Amphitheater, I simply hate the shed, hate the crowd, hate the sound, hate the management, hate the seats and hate the security. I sure hope they don't pick up Marcus later. Absolute worst!
Fly low and be cool,
Jim
Date: Tues, April 21, 2009, 20:05:39 ET
Posted by: SF DanFan, San Francisco
WTF is up with this trickling in of dates?
One date here and another there. I don't think I've ever seen that before. I know the last tour they added dates toward the end that brought them around these here parts more times. But this one date piddling in is getting on my nerves.
Get the bulk of the tour dates down and post them. Cut out this crap they are pulling now. Very unprofessional IMO, despite my being a DanHead.
Date: Tues, April 21, 2009, 19:21:38 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, Still breathing
Any rumors on more of the us dates? I hate to blow the wad going to see them down south if they're gonna be doin' at least one midwest show.
Recently 'revisited' the DF solo tour from March '06. Krantz really was a perfect fit for that band. Much more so than when he toured with them in '96, although I have to admit, most of my brain cells were stompin' down the avenue back then.
KC
Date: Tues, April 21, 2009, 16:46:13 ET
Posted by: dinky, rules
dinky, you wacky son of a . . . .
http://crawdaddy.wolfgangsvault.com/Article/The-Return-of-Spanky-and-Our-Gang.html?page=2&cpage=1
Date: Tues, April 21, 2009, 16:16:54 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
Finally heard Dark Horse Dub.
Very minimal lyrics/vocals, deep reggae groove and the best horn work of anything on C$. Definitely a keeper. There's also an insert page with a rambling narrative from WB inspired, I think, by that song.
Date: Tues, April 21, 2009, 13:05:56 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, outside philly
looks like Carolyn is on board for Rent Party
Date: Tues, April 21, 2009, 12:43:45 ET
Posted by: Robert, OnTheBeach
When you go to Bard College take rte 103 south out of the campus for about a mile and you will come to Barrytown Rd. Turn right and go all the way down to the railroad tracks (1/2 mile). There is a tiny RR station in the woods with a bronze "Barrytown" plaque on it. The columned structure makes for a great picture.
You can see by what they carry that they come from Barrytown.
Date: Tues, April 21, 2009, 10:27:59 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
happy birthday Michael Leonhart!
Date: Tues, April 21, 2009, 10:07:42 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando
Lee, I completely agree with you about Ruth Eckerd. I've also seen them at Ice Palace (yuck) and the Ford Amphitheatre (double yuck) and Ruth Eckerd is infinitely better. Saw them there last year and they seemed to genuinely be especially enjoying themselves. I live in Orlando and may choose to go to Ruth Eckerd over seeing them literally just up the road from where I work, its that nice a place for a show.
Date: Mon, April 20, 2009, 22:28:13 ET
Posted by: Lee, Tampa
One more date for Florida, at Ruth Eckerd in Clearwater, on Friday, 6-12. Tickets go on sale to the public Friday, 5-1, and facility members can buy a day or two sooner.
By the way, I've seen all three SD shows at Ruth Eckerd, including two nights in a row in 2007, and I've seen all the other 6 or 7 shows in the Tampa Bay area, and the sound at Ruth Eckerd is as close to perfect as it could be. SD sounds AMAZING in that place!
Link to the Ruth Eckerd page for the show:
http://tickets.rutheckerdhall.com/tickets/production.aspx?performanceNumber=5608
Date: Mon, April 20, 2009, 19:08:55 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach
The discrepancy in the "on sale" date for the June 18th show in St Augustine, continues...but there has been some progress:
Now the official site of the St Augustine Amphitheater says tickets go on sale Saturday April 25th at 10:00 AM.
http://www.staugamphitheatre.com/
Steelydan.com still has the tickets going on sale Aprl the 24th.
Just an FYI
Date: Mon, April 20, 2009, 17:34:21 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" .. maybe they owe money to Jeb Bush (a known HUGE SD fan) and they are trying to take it out in trade. "
This makes Joey sad .
" C'mon, spread the wealth, spread the geography, venture inland, think heartland, think flyover country, think about the good flights from DFW airport to all points European. "
Amen ..... St. Louis ( Again ?! ) , Minneapolis .....
.... Kansas City , etc.
I remain ...... forever ...... your Joey .
J'Lo ! ™
Date: Mon, April 20, 2009, 15:37:09 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Sorry, Hitch, yes, mea culpa. My favorite lines...
Grace Kelly to Cary: "Did you enjoy that kiss last night?"
John Robie (Cary) to Frances (Grace)]:
Not only did I enjoy that kiss last night, I was awed by its efficiency.
Date: Mon, April 20, 2009, 15:29:54 ET
Posted by: Alfred Hitchcock,
Wasn't that, "To Catch a Thief?"
Date: Mon, April 20, 2009, 15:21:30 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Jeb Bush, a Steely Dan fan???? Omigod, where did we go wrong...
The show that holds the most promise has got to be Monte Carlo. The mother of all casinos, high rolling Steely Dan characters at every turn, that winding road that Cary Grant and Grace Kelly careened down in, "It Takes a Thief." A 007 setting if there ever was one. The Men of Steel onstage with a license to kill.
Date: Mon, April 20, 2009, 15:09:14 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
The way those bastards, I mean our heroes, are carpetbombing Florida, it makes you think that maybe they owe money to Jeb Bush (a known HUGE SD fan) and they are trying to take it out in trade. C'mon, spread the wealth, spread the geography, venture inland, think heartland, think flyover country, think about the good flights from DFW airport to all points European.
Date: Mon, April 20, 2009, 14:55:13 ET
Posted by: "(At least one round is one me)", Dagnabbit!
That extra e in the second "one" makes i at least 2 rounds on me. See you at the party.
Date: Mon, April 20, 2009, 14:50:49 ET
Posted by: Tempeted to go overseas, from Scandinavia to the good ol' US of A
Here's the deal:
I have decided to spend the savings supposed to help my not-too-distant old age on a trip to the US of A to celebrate me and myself making the half way mark towards the big 100.
No big thing really, but a suitable excuse to spend some money, travel and a bit of cash on some fine sounds and ... maybe a Danfest or three.
Europe is fine but why not go for a show in the land of Steely Dan?
Anybody hip to what venue and show of the currently on offer might deliver the maximum Steely Dan experience? Plus t-shirts. ;)
Ageingly yours,
PGE
(At least one round is one me)
Date: Mon, April 20, 2009, 14:27:27 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
2 more US dates added at steelydan.com
Date: Mon, April 20, 2009, 11:55:19 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando
Though not on the SD site, yet, its been announced that there will be a Ft. Myers date, as well. http://www.news-press.com/article/20090420/NEWS01/90420014/1075
Date: Mon, April 20, 2009, 09:39:31 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
The Durham Performing Arts Center looks like a beautiful modern venue. I'll wager the acoustics are top-notch.
What a great theatre for a Dan concert.
http://www.dpacnc.com/default.asp?dpac=35
Date: Mon, April 20, 2009, 09:32:32 ET
Posted by: TheBendingEnd, Rhode Island
First post in a long time ... I'd say Sept. of '06 or so, but I can't seem to find the posts from that era.
I'm planning to do a campus tour of Bard College in July. Wondering if there's anything SD-related I can look for while in town.
Thanks.
Date: Sun, April 19, 2009, 15:15:59 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu - Bring The Sun Screen... Wow
I would politely disagree about that
"Bamma" date Fezzo. I would think
that will be one of the "must-see"
shows this round. Come on, don't
you think they are going to do a
rousing take of "Deacon" that will
make the hair on the back of our
rednecks vibrate?
Cheers Deano! Yup what a show that
was at Shoreline in 2006. Perfect
capper to the great trifecta of 06.
Date: Sun, April 19, 2009, 13:20:25 ET
Posted by: fezo, backwoods
I see that our heroes have added an Alabama date to the U.S. leg of their tour. Hmmnnnn. That state doesn't really seem to be part of their target market. Hope they make it out of their alive.
Date: Sun, April 19, 2009, 13:14:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, Reggae Sunday
Pauly,
You got the news? Don't hold out on us.
Date: Sun, April 19, 2009, 13:05:26 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
I'm quoting a previous post. I have no idea when the recording was made - but do have a better idea who is probably playing what. Lay down your hand Pauly.
Date: Sun, April 19, 2009, 11:48:27 ET
Posted by: pauly , in the studio
Doc Mu, You 'believed' wrong.
Date: Sun, April 19, 2009, 08:57:59 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Only tangentially Dan, but any Beatle fans in the Washington D.C. area should know that The Fab Faux (Will Lee, Jimmy Vivino et al.)will be performing Revolver in it's entirety and a mixed set on Saturday, May 2nd at the Warner Theatre in downtown D.C..
I saw those guys for the first time last year at the same venue and I was totally blown away. Five of New York's best studio musicians (along with horns and strings)playing some of the best music ever written and performing it absolutely part perfect.
Date: Sun, April 19, 2009, 00:06:24 ET
Posted by: Panera Q,
Date: Sat, April 18, 2009, 23:26:22 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
i believe, I idolize You
is from the 2008 rehearsals when Jim Beard joined the group for the November dates.
Yeah, sounds like
piano: Jim Beard
organ: Donald Fagen
Rhodes: Ted Baker
guitar, guitar solo: Jon Herington
guitar: Walter Becker
bass: Freddie Washington, Jr.
drums: Keith Carlock
Date: Sat, April 18, 2009, 20:36:30 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach
Lurker Ray,
Dirty Work w/Bonnie Raitt is sublime, and I was at that show...brings back some great memories. It does sound extremely good, so I would also guess it is a board recording.
I remember everyone being excited...the band, Bonnie, and especially Carolyn and the girls (can't remember off the top of my head who else was singing backup). They were all shedding tears and hugging as she exited.
Date: Sat, April 18, 2009, 15:54:50 ET
Posted by: Bobbo, in the booth
Hey Kids,
I've got the booth to myself, and I'm thinking about a 'Steely Saturday'...an hour of the boys, starting around 3pm Central? (Jeeezus, that's 8 minutes away!)
It'd be all-request, I've got the whole catalog here...
You can get the stream at gowolfe.com (click on pre-owned at the top, and look for the "listen live" button. Whattayasay? I've got live phones, and a toll-free number.
Any takers? Hate to waste all of this technology...
Okay,
Bobbo
Date: Sat, April 18, 2009, 15:07:06 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu - Jump Into Springtime!
With all the chatter about "I Idolize You"
I'm really surprized that no one has commented
on the sublime Soundboard recording of Bonnie
Raitt doing "Dirty Work" at Shorline in '06!
It's definitely a soundboard and not an audience
recording. Pehaps an "ALD". I hope that means
that perhaps soon we will get the entire show
from the sondboard. That night's version of
"Deacon" is one of the best I have ever heard.
And I have heard alot of live versions over the
years. What a trifecta that was in 2006 -
Soboba - Two sets and "Dr Wu" at soundcheck
Bayside - Last two show set ever? By the sea
Shoreline - Bonnie! - Those San Fransisco nights
I see it's not looking good for SoCal shows this
year. But then again NY flights are dirt cheap!
Here's to that Shoreline Sounboard seeing the light
of day!
PS- Thanks to the "b-mann" for all of the goodies.
Date: Sat, April 18, 2009, 12:53:05 ET
Posted by: panera, French loaf
More premature than unintentional.
Date: Sat, April 18, 2009, 10:59:56 ET
Posted by: B. Gannan,
HOOPSNESS -
Re: "It came... so did the fans".
I love the implied ambiguity in that statement. Was it intentional?
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 21:13:50 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Regarding the Danfests in Orlando--or elsewhere:
Still waiting to hear back from a couple of people on what will hopefully be a unified communication method that will keep the Greater Dandom in on the loop.
There are a couple of dozen people last counted on the Orlando Danfest list. The Blue isn't the best place for Danfest discussion since you only get a handful of people headed to one show or another. I'd save your Danfest discussion for a week or so from now when things get finalized in general.
In the mean time, here's the latest from the Dandom Digest for April 12-17 which just mailed a few minutes ago.
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Subject: Danfest Stimulus Package 2009
Your girlfriend will be so impressed!
Your friends will say the greatest things about you afterwards.
Bigger, better and longer.
The fun times will last and last!
Why we're talkin' the 2009 Danfest Stimulus Package!
Wing Dings, Danfests, Summer Smokers and Rent Parties. All part of the 2009 Danfest Stimulus Package.
Details forthcoming in the next few days--including a few suggestions so every feels that they have an equal chance at Stimulus and Package if not Funds.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 20:47:48 ET
Posted by: Ordando Fan, Orlando
Monday night in Orlando, darn, wish it wasn't a week night. Have seen them the last 5 times they came to Florida, hard to resist seeing them again. CF, I was at the Danfest near the Hard Rock live two years ago, any plans for another?
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 18:11:38 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston
Well,Deacon blue will be on the playlist at least one night!!!!
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 13:13:11 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Oddly
Interesting note on the Orlando show:
The Bob Carr Theatre has a max seating capacity of 2518. Tickets are $55 to $110. Assuming they sell out and that the average price is around $80, the most they can generate is just over $200,000. I guess they could sell some swag and maybe get a chunk of the concessions, but that just cannot be that much, especially in Orlando on a Monday night.
Its not bad, I suppose, but I would have figured they need to clear a bit more than that to make it worthwile.
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 11:02:33 ET
Posted by: www, eee
Small blurb on the Orlando show. No idea about how many groupies the sound guy gets.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/orl-calnewtix17041709apr17,0,5721361.story
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 10:40:10 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando, a stone's throw from the Bob Carr
Okey dokey, time to pokey.
The Dan visiting Orlando again and this time at the more low key Bob Carr Theatre. Seen Swan Lake there, but it blew because they used recorded music and the staging was poor. Still, a good place for a Dan show, IMO. Expansive seating -- not as intimate as Ruth Eckerd Hall, but way better than the sports arena notion.
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 10:25:12 ET
Posted by: i believe, I idolize You
is from the 2008 rehearsals when Jim Beard joined the group for the November dates.
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 10:22:44 ET
Posted by: duncan, UK
beer's
It's frosty, cold & windy up here, & that's just me!
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 09:33:32 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Beersy - so nice to hear you once more...of course I'm still bangin' on...what, me leave the Blue and give up showbizness? Unthinkable.
I have witnessed many instances of great spirit here in the last 10 days in my earthquake-ravaged Abruzzo, especially these courageous women have kept their families together. Without homes, without those small possessions and comforts, without anyyhing but the tired old housedress dress they fled their houses in...these strong and gentle women have kept this little town of mine going, cooking over open fires, washing clothes in the ancient fountain basin, overcoming their own fears to keep these little family units together. I'm not a religious man, far from it, but when I see them saying rosaries at night in little groups after everyone has gone to sleep, well, it makes me wonder...
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 09:02:34 ET
Posted by: Beerberian, I already said
Sorry Dunc didn't see you there ... How's it up t'north today?
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 09:00:53 ET
Posted by: Beerberian, UK Dandom on Trent
Greetings Danworld UK calling once more ... Rajah you old scrote still bangin' on I see LOL
Any others still hangin' loose?
29th in Barrytown ... Nice
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 08:45:47 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
Raja, the woman you mentioned is on CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/17/susan.boyle/index.html
"UK singer 'gobsmacked' by overnight stardom" ... do you think it should be godwhacked:)
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 07:53:15 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
The piano intro on, "I Idolize You," has got to be James Beard, witness with your ears if you will the touch on his entrance to, "Door Number Two," in comparison. The keystrokes are unmistakable. So, let's place it circa 2006 or so. It's obviously Keith on battery, Walter doing his best Grant Green on guitar. I like Donald's wide open and snide vocal rendering, yes, akin to, "Rhymes," in that sense, which I thought was quite a refreshing departure from his controlled Steely Dan and solo work. If Jelly Roll Morton is indeed one of Donald's great influences, he shows the chops on this one.
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 07:11:25 ET
Posted by: duncan, UK
another poor do it again cover.
please dont!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QFU8FlBPZI
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 06:30:00 ET
Posted by: EuroDan, The Left Bank
"I Idolize You"
Where and when is that from?
SD rehearsals? it sounds more like the DF sessions with Todd Rundgren
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 06:18:42 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
two new US dates added at steelydan.com
Date: Fri, April 17, 2009, 06:10:11 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I don't know if you get anything but BBC America in the U.S. but there a singer I think Steely Dan should consider as a substitute back-up, she's a dowdy old maid from Scotland named Susan Boyle. As unfortunate a face as the Creator could fashion but when she sang the other night the few hairs I have left on the back of my head stood up. She does need a serious makeover however...
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 17:08:08 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour!
Madman,
Good job.
For what it's worth, here's Mel's version of Walk Between the Raindrops:
http://mp3.rhapsody.com/mel-torme/in-the-studio-and-in-concert
Pretty funny shit.
Casual Fan, I had a brief conversation with my "kind of" contact for the Amphitheater. Her real connection is she works with a sound company that often does the sound (or handles some aspects of it) for many local concerts. It isn't likely that the company is involved with the Dan, who I would guess do all their own sound (she's checking, though). But, I have one more (very minor) card up my sleeve, that I will play soon.
I'll do what I can.
As for a mini-meeting of Dan Fans, I don't really have the time, or inclination, to host a real Dan Fest, but there are a few bars/bar restaurants, within a short drive from the Amphitheater. If anyone is coming, I can make recommendations and would love to meet for a drink, or several.
My email address is where it should be, on this post.
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 16:50:25 ET
Posted by: Dan Phan,
Guitar Hero World Tour gets Steely Dan Track Pack
Kid C
Black Fri
Bodhisattva
http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/19380/Guitar-Hero-World-Tour-Gets-Steely-Dan-Track-Pack/
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 16:19:10 ET
Posted by: Bob, Atlanta
Madman - credit where credit is due...thanks for the link of the Melster giving is "the look"...again, no idea.
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 16:13:51 ET
Posted by: Bob, Atlanta
Madman - credit where credit is due...thanks for the link of the Melster giving is "the look"...again, no idea.
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 16:07:15 ET
Posted by: Bob, Atlanta
Doc - as always, insightful stuff clueing us in to the fact that the "Velvet Fog" did a rendition of "...Raindrops" I had no idea but I'm not completely surprised...(did know he wrote book about Buddy, though). You're the best!
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 16:06:37 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
I saw this on ebay today...it's a promo sampler of SD stuff as well as WB and DF solo stuff, including covers by Mel Torme, Barbra Streisand, Manhattan Transfer and others...I found one of these on ebay years ago, and haven't seen one in a long time...a great item for the serious collector:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=200331560887
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 15:45:24 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
Mel Torme also did a great version of Walk Between Raindrops...
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 15:07:41 ET
Posted by: Dan Phan,
Great clip to bring up, Madman.
Mel Tormé was being interviewed maybe 15 years ago and he was asked if there was anyone of a younger generation who stood out in terms of songwriting and performing. He named Donald.
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 14:58:13 ET
Posted by: The Madman, The Inside
Didn't ever know this existed, so I figured maybe others didn't either. Mel Torme doing Goodbye Look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NjwcsHbcDE
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 12:50:07 ET
Posted by: RRJas, Back to the Sports Arena
Witnessed Cindy Mizelle at the Sports Arena last night with the E Street Band. She sounds so much better than Patti Sciafa. Bruce was animated with her and let her voice carry. GREAT show!!!!!!
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 12:13:27 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Levon Helm is bringing his band to the Chicago Theatre on June 9. The Chicago Theatre is run by the same folks as the Beacon, so it's not surprising. Of course, I certainly won't expect Donald to be part of the show in Chicago.
There's a pre-sale tomorrow for those registered with the Chicago Theatre and MSG entertainment's newsletters (covers the Beacon, MSG, WaMu (or whatever) Theatre, Radio City, Paramount, Chicago Theatre).
Jim
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 11:46:14 ET
Posted by: Ann, Borneo
Hi All,
Just picked this up from Elliott Randall's website:
http://www.elliott-randall.com/jerry.htm
Also, he's got an new CD out, featuring a re-make of "Reelin' in the Years" in Celtic style. This HAS to be listened too!
Hope you all enjoy the Summer shows. Looks like I won't be able to make any, unless the fellahs decide to hit Singapore.
Peace to all,
Ann
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 11:36:34 ET
Posted by: Zombie, Mid-priced luxury car
All points bulletin (APB) to those in the "know" (and again, Hoops, thanks for your sole response); why is it that Atlanta is the "put-upon" concert site (does not matter the venue) whereupon every frickin' year, one has to buy the "package" of concerts to get dibs on the early tickets?...in the realm of things, the St. Augustine date conundrum is a minor annoyance...capice? Thanks for any response.
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 09:55:15 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, trying to come up with something clever but failing
Dean, thanks for the heads up on the on-sale date. I am going to try ticketmaster that morning and see what I can manage. Perhaps a low-key fest is in the making?
CF
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 09:31:19 ET
Posted by: Me, Here
It's hard to help out you people with your I Idolize You questions when you don't post an email address.
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 04:13:34 ET
Posted by: American Idolizer, Chevoit Hills
Where is "I Idolize You" available? Is this for real?
Date: Thurs, April 16, 2009, 03:15:52 ET
Posted by: zzzzzzzzzzzzzz, wa da
idolize? fascinatin. all sounds good cept donny's vocal? if thats wally, its the best solo he ever did.
get me more info.
hz
Date: Wed, April 15, 2009, 23:02:02 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Trading today for tomorrow
That's the ticket. A new Dan album should be live. The tours pre-recorded. That's about right.
Date: Wed, April 15, 2009, 22:45:56 ET
Posted by: Doc µ ,
Yeah, who twiddled the knobs on I Idolize You? Very Live sound. Great use of spacing...a Klein C$ feel with Fagenesque arrangements. The mix is balanced. Instruments are mic'd right. It's about d*** time!
'
Best SOUNDING Dan/Fagen track since probably Nightfly, maybe Aja. Really. I'm not kidding.
Date: Wed, April 15, 2009, 20:20:56 ET
Posted by: be careful what you ask for,
they covered keith jarrett.
Date: Wed, April 15, 2009, 18:41:56 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour!
Thanks, Jim. That's what I figured.
Date: Wed, April 15, 2009, 18:27:59 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Tom and Brian:
No, it's not about you. Really.
Again:
This time of year, when tour tickets sales start, we always have a routine reminder (etc, etc).
BTW: I get emails and messages about tickets elsewhere for the Digest, etc.
That's what this is a response to.
Date: Wed, April 15, 2009, 18:00:17 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour!
Casual Fan,
I'm assuming Hoops simply took the opportunity to give the community a reminder. I would certainly NEVER ask for anything more than what I paid from a fellow Blue contributor. I'm fairly sure Hoops knows that.
BTW, back to the confusion on the sale date for St Augustine tickets. SteelyDan.com still says tickets are on sale Friday, April 24th.
Staugamphitheatre.com says tickets are on sale Friday, April 25th (of course April 25th is not a Friday)
I went to the Amphitheater ticket office today, and they told me tickets go on sale Saturday, April 25th.
I will continue to try and solve this mystery.
But first, another cocktail!
Date: Wed, April 15, 2009, 12:07:20 ET
Posted by: wc, ...
re: Donald singing I Idolize You, an Ike and Tina Turner track.
if SD would cover whateva pop tune and record an entire L-bum, I'd be game.
because they twist it so it sounds SD, which means an extra dimension for the tune they are covering, and a fresh angle from SD perspective.
hell, I can ever hear Donald sing "on a dark desert high way....."
has it been done here before?
guess so.
a Top Ten of songs you'd like to hear SD (and or the Breadline Orchestra) do on stage or in studio, preferably both:
(random order)
• Hotel California (Eagles)
• Can We Still Be Friends (Todd Rundgren)
• I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For (U2)
• My Resistance Is Low (Hoagy Carmichael)
• In The Ghetto/Always On My Mind (Elvis Presley)
• Georgy Porgy (Toto)
• Minuano (Pat Metheny/Lyle Mays/Kurt Elling)
• It's Different For Girls (Joe Jackson)
• Song For You (Leon Russell/Ray Charles)
Date: Wed, April 15, 2009, 10:44:59 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, orlando
Hoops,
Just in case there might have been a miscue, I think neither Dean nor I was speaking in terms of ticket resales or anything of the like. I just got the impression that he, living in St. Augustine, might have some sort of an "in" to get great seats as they became available. I dunno', maybe some person working there having first choice or something similar. I was only saying that if he did have such a connection to get good seats then I'd love to be included for me and whatever date I can scrounge up that evening. Didn't mean to imply otherwise and sorry if I was unclear.
CF
Date: Wed, April 15, 2009, 10:36:14 ET
Posted by: who cares?, here
http://www.bigozine3.com/mystery/mysterysongs.html
there are many many cool songs in here.
but if you want the I idolize you song, look for number 196 or enter door number two :-)
at your own risk, of course.
Date: Wed, April 15, 2009, 09:32:28 ET
Posted by: bank, left
Anyone notice Janice Pendarvis listed as a vocalist on the left bank tour?
http://www.myspace.com/janicependarvis
Date: Wed, April 15, 2009, 00:27:00 ET
Posted by: audio, phile
great site with lots on 'Dan lp's
http://www.dccblowout.com/product.aspx?pf_id=steelaja_01_0807&rurl=
Would you pay $850 for Aja on vinyl???
ouch
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 23:42:26 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
This time of year, when tour tickets sales start, we always have a routine reminder that selling, offering or otherwise explaining or suggesting how to buy scalpers tickets is not allowed on any internet resource associated with Dandom.com This includes the BlueBook, the Dandom Digest and the Danfest Lists All are welcome to sell and offer tickets at face value plus any fees from the official ticket sales agency (typically Ticketmaster and the like) for a show. Exceptions are made for tickets sold for legitimate charity fundraising purposes. I don't charge over face-value plus box office fees and in fact, that's one of the motivations behind this site. This place is out of friendship--not making a buck. Thanks.
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 21:43:43 ET
Posted by: Dustin, 4 Prince
Ok, so all this talk of O(+>) (and his fondness for purple) has led me to the conclusion that all the while it's been our little friend from Minnesota who's been pushing those purple pills here at the blue -
Purple Reign - it's a conspiracy
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 21:37:14 ET
Posted by: Casual fan, orlando
Dean,
You misunderstand. If/when someone comes across primo seats to a Dan show, I expect to pay face value or even a tad more. So if you end up with a connection and its no trouble, go ahead and drop me a line.
You didn't by any chance drop by the Danfest a couple of years ago at the Hard Rock in Orlando, did you?
Anywhosals, thanks for thinking of me if something does indeed develop.
CF
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 21:16:46 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach
Casual,
If/When I get a line on something, I'll email you. I'm simply hoping to get primo seats...not really looking for a price break. Of course, if I get that too, it's gravy.
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 20:56:28 ET
Posted by: Speaking of, Denny
Why doesn't he get more respect, kudos, shout-outs, that sort of thing, around these parts?
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 20:13:55 ET
Posted by: Casual fan, orlando
Dean,
Should you succeed in working some sort of insider deal on primo seats, don't forget your friends.
You friend,
CF
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 19:23:11 ET
Posted by: Dear Uncle Walty, writing from Fairbanks
1) Prince Nelson Rodgers - intriguing, although the door-to-door visits between sessions may be fatiguing/exasperating. Try to hip them to the internet.
Alternately, seriously consider the other Rodgers, Nile Rodgers of Chic fame.
2) Jeff Lynne - can't really go wrong trying Jeff. Anyone who has worked with various Beatles, Dylan and Roy Orbison knows a few things. He might be able to get Keltner to go two drummer with Keith. I'll bite my tongue re: the whole ELO thing.
3) Ray Benson - hats and choreography! I like it! Opens a new market for you.
If you swing through Alaska this summer, I promise to buy t-shirts and beer.
Pat.
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 18:32:41 ET
Posted by: Uncle Walty, here to engage the disengaged, as it were...
Dearest Panera,
That was Donnie's first reaction, too...until I played him that MADHOUSE album from '85. Powerful stuff, kid. I mean--well, you know what I mean.
But keep 'em coming, we are down with the, uh...I mean, we are "Yo" on the "word". Um...whatevah. Peace out! And Doc, Mark, Denny Z, and Wendy and Lisa may come along, as well...just thought I'd point that out. Nothing like the Revolution to bring the Dan into the post-Morph era, eh?
Yowza,
UW
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 17:55:38 ET
Posted by: Panera, yeast of Hollywood
Walt -
Really - Prince?
Ahh I get it, just trying to get a rise out of us.
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 17:47:35 ET
Posted by: Looking For a Producer---NO REALLY!, while we're trying to compose this thing...
Hey Danners,
Donnie and I have picked up on your recent conversation about Klein and/or other producers "doing" our new studio work, if we ever get rythm tracks and such figured out...
The three we're gravitating towards at this point are varied, and and diverse. Give us your take on what the new Dan record would sound like if produced by one of our final three:
1) Prince Nelson Rodgers (thank Goodness and Brubeck, he's given up that crazy "symbol" thingy...How the Hell do you SPELL that?!)
2) Jeff Lynne (before you judge, both Herington and Krantz say we should give this cat a chance...both of them are old friends of TPetty, of course--ever notice the resemblance?)
AND
3) Ray Benson (His arrangements of a big ol' 14-piece swing band, albeit a "Western" variation of style and instrumentation, has certainly caught her eye; we also noticed that he recently bought the rights to both "Trouble in Mind" and "Bring it on Down to My House", and we're intrigued, y'know.
Thanks in advance for your input, and don't forget: but lots of beer and T-shirts at our deal this Summer, eh? Don needs new glasses, and I've gotta buy little Kawai a new board...big waves off the West Beach this Fall, for sure.
Yours,
Uncle Walty
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 17:43:44 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour!
Casual Fan, thanks for the heads-up on the St Augustine sale date.
I just checked the St Aug Amphitheater website, and that site says sales start Friday April 25th. Seeing as how April 25th is really on a Saturday, I'm going to assume it is the 24th.
I was all prepared to be at the box office this Saturday morning (April 18th). I guess I will have to cool my jets for another week. Maybe I can use that times to work some connection angles.
Have fun!
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 15:16:17 ET
Posted by: Just , Noticed
Lol C$ banner.
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 10:59:25 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando
Note that the "on sale" dates have changed on ticketbastard for St. Augustine and at least one of the others, from April 18 to April 24. I am actually glad to see this because it leaves more time to see whether they might post other dates at more convenient locales in the interim.
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 10:22:40 ET
Posted by: -, -
It's been said several times about Cindy and Bruce now.
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 08:16:15 ET
Posted by: duncan, UK
I think Cindy is touring with Bruce this summer... FYI
Date: Tues, April 14, 2009, 05:38:35 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
You're kidding about pre-recorded tracks on tour. This would be the end of the world as we know it...
Steely Dan made their bones in L.A., they wrote great travelogues of the environs. They lived in the valley at first, a squalid little apartment complex, hung out with the Laurel Canyon people with whom they never really quite fit in. They weren't hippies, they weren't into country, folky rock. They were bebop kids. Then they lived at the beach, something everyone should experience for a time. They split the town when it was time but the period of readjustment to NYC wasn't an easy one. They lost their center for quite a while and when they came back, they continued to write about L.A., a place few can endure for a lifetime but a place where few forget their experiences. Southern California audiences still love Steely Dan but the feeling isn't quite mutual.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 23:49:36 ET
Posted by: It's a laugh out loud day, on the Blue
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 23:10:54 ET
Posted by: Panera, print queue
(a) Damn - I should've said 'paranymphic' printer.
(c) there is no 'b'
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 22:27:22 ET
Posted by: errr...no " Phil-Spector",
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 22:20:31 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach
What a bizarre day on the Blue.
I'm thankful for Per-Gunn...I mean, Inge N. Sanning's insightful post, which puts it all into perspective (Per-Spective?)
:#)
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 21:07:46 ET
Posted by: Casual fan, orlando
This rumor of pre-recorded tracks. I hear it came from Don Henley.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 20:39:23 ET
Posted by: crystal Blue persuader, every green field, in every town....
You know something. We should not give a whit whether or not there is pre-recorded music used at the Steely Dan Show. You are there for a "live" Dan experience.
What F-ing difference should it make? With the Dan's tight precision and adherence to their studio records, lack of improvisation etc. during their live performances, "pre-recorded" material would be almost imperceptible. And I would especially welcome it if it would help the Dan to vary the setlist and do MORE songs. The set list repertoire might approach 50 songs which could be plugged in and out, interchanged etc. on any given night. A "modular" approach to concert. Yeah.....that's the ticket! I say, Bring IT On.
They just MIGHT be able to do Kulee Baba, 2nd arr, whatevah. Think of the variety and musical power the Dan could unleash on stage, while making more profit for themselves. It's a win-win proposition.
BTW, the reason the Dan does not go West, is that there are few profit-centers out there. Conversely, they can still nearly fully pack most venues in the East, and they sell-out four or five shows in NYC every year.
It has been said by no less an authourity than Rajah and others that Steely Dan is an "LA" band. Well, musically that may be so. The truth is that Steely Dan's BREAD is buttered EAST of the mighty "Mississipp".....
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 20:21:59 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
Hoops...I didnt notice much feedback on ur critque of Rhymes. I happen to like that track a lot. I never listened to the Al Green version but I really like the way Donald's voice comes off. Very soulful and funky-like. He seemed more comfortable in that element.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 19:56:36 ET
Posted by: interview with walter and jon, Performing Musician magazine
In the March 2009 issue of Performing Musician magazine is a nice interview with Walter Becker and Jon Herington.
Pages 32 to 38, nice photos.
Couple good Walter quotes:
On touring -
"I don't go sightseeing anymore. You can go sightseeing anytime, but you are only ever going to have so many shots at playing to a big audience. I try to conserve my energy and focus on that."
On future plans -
"It's like they say in Japanese politics: 15 minutes into the future is total blackness."
And it seems from the bands perspective they are mixing up the song list a lot during the tours. They are not bored.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 19:50:05 ET
Posted by: Panera, standing in the line
Hoops -
(1)I may or may not be insulted (the jury's still out on that one)
(2) I don't even own a computer (let alone know how to operate one) - or a geometric printer -
but I'm thinking about getting one of those celery phones everyone's talking about
(3) I AM wiggin' though...
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 19:32:45 ET
Posted by: Inge N. Sanning, Inside info turned outside ditto
The "some very exciting developments are in the works" on the front page of steelydan.com as well as the latest official newsletter might point in the right direction, but on top of the info here on the Blue that
a) The Steely Dan tour '09 will be using pre-recorded music instead of live players. (See post dated April 12, 2009, 22:34:07 ET)
b) The band walked out and now a roadie is just going to play cuts off of the original albums from an empty stage. (See post dated April 13, 2009, 08:16:59 ET)
I also have to inform you that the worries about Steely Dan not making it out west this time around might turn out to be very, very real. Sort of.
In these days of maximizing the concert revenues in the shortest time while ducking the sharps and blanks fired by the crashing music business, there's supposedly a SECOND Steely Dan taking care of the places west of the Mississippi.
It's made up of a bunch of good but not great musicians handpicked by a distant cousin of the guy working as apprentice over at a sub-management whathaveya somehow connected to Donald & Walter.
This second "Steely Dan" is named Stole 'N Dun and fronted by onetime aspiring studio musician Dun Matthews thanks to having a short and scary affair with a seamstress named "Anita", who in turn said "hello" to either Donald or Walter or both in an upmarket bar in downtown Atlanta back in THAT summer of 1989.
Hey, it's only Rock N Roll!
Cindy's switch from SD to Broooce of course has all to do with what's been reported here on the Blue. Cindy = integrity = respect!
See you at the shows!
/Inge N. Sanning
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 19:00:37 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Panera -
Yeah, they are now referring to those prerecorded CD's as "tour cuts."
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 18:43:29 ET
Posted by: hey, hay
Band Fan: I think that was also in the Dandom Digest about a week ago as well. So, yeah.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 18:41:24 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Hey Panera boy, I guess people by their writing style. You get that from teaching all that. That said, perhaps I've narrowed it down.
You are either
1) a rock impresario known best for his 50s and 60s work, and, in recent years, for wearing large Afro fright wigs and increasingly bizarre behavior.
OR....
2) you are some middle-aged guy who sends Steely Dan fans custom CDs mailed with shipping labels that are computer-printed, hand-cut, and trapezoidal or even tetragonal in shape.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 16:37:05 ET
Posted by: Panera, On the corner
I'm glad to hear that Walt's new one is still coming, but I hear it's been prerecorded, so there's that.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 16:13:02 ET
Posted by: B Givens,
Right On Chris, nh!!!
That's what we do baby. That's what do.
They can stick this tour.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 15:57:40 ET
Posted by: Zombie, Mid-priced Luxury Car
Hoops - thank you for your response.
re: ATL "package" deal for SD concerts, it's been the same nonsense for who knows how long; ATL and a few other places are held hostage by some apparent a-hole promoter (whatever) who holds exacts an "Eagles" type of deal...early tik thingy of having to buy tiks for muy concerts to get early pickens. Puhleez, can someone shed some light on this? Would someone with the "inside" skinny on the tik-biz tell me why ATL is always hood-winked into this pack-deal (I have a small "package" so I'm particularly senstive to this).
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 15:09:27 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando
Alright, so I see they have a show scheduled for St. Augustine. I'm hoping that means that another Ruth Eckerd Hall show is in the works. Saw them there last year and its just a great place to see a show. Having caught them in the amphitheatre setting, the domed sports venue setting, the big house setting (Hard Rock in Orlando), and then the what I will call arts-house setting (Ruth Eckerd), I have to say that the smaller arts-house gig from last year was by far the most entertaining.
But if St. Augustine is it, then I shall brush up on my 16th and 17th Century Spanish and trudge on up.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 12:26:42 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
the Boston stop this year is going to be in my bedroom. I will type Steely Dan into itunes and shuffle all the songs in my library for 75 minutes. hell, I'll turn on the visualizer. the beer selection will be better than the Pavillion's and dancing will be encouraged. single women under the age of 30 get in free.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 12:24:01 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
the Boston stop this year is going to be in my bedroom. I will type Steely Dan into itunes and shuffle all the songs in my library for 75 minutes.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 12:19:19 ET
Posted by: Band Fan, California
Did anybody notice that Cindy is no longer in the Breadline band? It's now Catherine, Tawatha, and Carolyn is back. Cindy apparently is with the E Street Band for now.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 10:58:47 ET
Posted by: Dash LaRue, Back In The Black
Well it looks likes us folks West of the Mighty Miss might get the
snub yet again this year. I know the whole sched is not out yet, but
I did notice that they head EAST again after Europe and that does not
not bode well. Anyone with any concrete info? Lutz??
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 10:11:18 ET
Posted by: Outraged, U.K.
I am outraged to hear that the SD tour will be using pre-recorded backing tracks instead of live musicians. Why should I part with my hard earned cash to sit through what is virtually 'Don and Walt do karaoke '?
And now apparently they won't even be leaving their 'rock star' mansions but will be feeding their 'live vocals' via the internet to be blended into the pre-recorded backing by a member of their management team with no sound engineering experience whatsoever.
No doubt if they are feeling a little under the weather there is also a chance that the vocals will be passed through 'pitch correction' software.
And somehow, in their absence, the audience is supposed to be happy with giant cinematic images of their heroes SEEMINGLY YOUNGER THAN THEY REALLY ARE NOW.
First digital music. And now this.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 10:09:05 ET
Posted by: B Federer,
Jim -
RE: The Breadline orch.,are you for sure? Where does it say that @ SD.com?
That troolyooly sucks if true
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 10:01:02 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, Now here's something you'll really like...
Mortgage money is more like it for me. Not quite in the bread line yet, though. Anywhere, here's a little something to brighten a Monday morning.
http://pools-of-sorrow-waves-of-joy.blogspot.com/2009/04/where-once-we-danced-our-sweet-routine.html
Have a good day, all.
G
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 09:53:36 ET
Posted by: Hutch, rva
Found a DVD of "Bright Lights, Big City" at Big Lots for 3 bucks! Something to add to the collection. Actually I was pretty excited to find that.
Quite a bit of SD is played on "Morning Joe" on MSNBC. Reelin' is played a lot when they go to commercial break.
Maybe rush should play some SD on his show. You know... add a little class to the show!
I'm laughing so hard right now I can't type any more.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 09:19:36 ET
Posted by: HeyMike, on the right wing
DC and others,
Plenty of right-of-center folks are SD fans and EVEN hang out on the blue. I get approached at dan fests usually or an email here and there. Most of them dont want to stir up the whacked out element lurking in the bowels of this place.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 09:09:03 ET
Posted by: I won't take, your bread
The band is named that because European dates are "sandwiched" between the American. Btw, Atlanta Bread is a pretty good Panera knock off.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 08:16:59 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Jim -
I got the same scuttlebutt that you did about using prerecorded accompaniment this tour to reduce cost. Word I got, though, was that the entire show was going to be recorded with only cardboard cutouts of Donald and Walter on stage, and that the band got pissed when they realized they were laying down tracks that would put them out of a job so the band walked out and now a roadie is just going to play cuts off of the original albums from an empty stage. The good news, though, is that ticket prices are being cut 10%.
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 05:39:42 ET
Posted by: DC, DC
Why would anyone be offended if a SD song is used in a radio show?
It's really good exposure.
If it's the "wrong" show for this unlucky perp, it may well be the "right" show for others.
It takes a really small mind to fish for support here, like SD is the property of movealong.com? What a pea sized brain!
Date: Mon, April 13, 2009, 00:20:28 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
I "got" Dark Horse Dub the other night on a long drive. Glad it finally happened.
Still not crazy about the vocal mix, however.
Date: Sun, April 12, 2009, 22:34:07 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
B Federer: The Breadline Orchestra '09 offended????? My understanding is that in order to maximize the rent monies raised this tour, SD will be going the route of many Broadway productions that have dumped their pit orchestras: SD will be using pre-recorded music instead of live players. How can recordings be offended?
The Arts section of today's New York Times had a long piece about which show long time Deadheads consider to be the best Grateful Dead show ever. Now even if you aren't a Deadhead (and keep in mind this forum traces its lineage to rec.music.gdead), the piece is very interesting and much translatable to the context of the loyal Dandom. The reasons given for why various shows were chosen were amusingly interesting, with the band's tape archivists and engineers begging to differ from the fans and the band's *surviving* members saying they only remember periods and tours and not any particular show. Of course, there is Walter's famous quote from the second Roseland show in 2003: "This could very well be the best Steely Dan show ever."
"Circus Money" is still coming? Of course! I STILL get off on it big time!
Jim
Date: Sun, April 12, 2009, 21:45:18 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach
Happy Easter, Dandom
B Federer, are you suggesting SD's band lacks a sense of humor?
Date: Sun, April 12, 2009, 18:57:51 ET
Posted by: john , nyc
rush doesnt use fm to open his show you dumbass it's my city is gone by the pretenders
Date: Sun, April 12, 2009, 17:12:58 ET
Posted by: B Federer,
Hooper -
I wonder if any of the 2009 touring sidemen are offended of being part of the "Breadline" Orchestra? :)
Date: Sun, April 12, 2009, 08:14:22 ET
Posted by: bikemann17, nj
Hey,,,,Question, where did you hear I Idolize you?
Date: Sun, April 12, 2009, 04:50:27 ET
Posted by: Scouser, Halewood to Hollywood
Hey Raj
Whats up me old mate.
Date: Sun, April 12, 2009, 03:19:30 ET
Posted by: p , s
i LOVE waltah!
hz
Date: Sun, April 12, 2009, 03:16:10 ET
Posted by: denise denise denise, geez
you should know by know that D&F are nice guys - so, of course they will play something from C$ - they know that at a certain point in the show that folks have to take time out to take a leak!
according to the banner ad above, C$ is COMING. i can't wait to hear it..HZ
Date: Sun, April 12, 2009, 01:32:08 ET
Posted by: mashed potatoes, lotsagravry
Please come to Toronto!
Date: Sat, April 11, 2009, 17:10:02 ET
Posted by: Question, Here
Does anyone know where or when the Fagen version of "I Idolize You" was recorded? I heard it was during a soundcheck, but does anyone know what tour? It's a nice little version of that song.
Date: Sat, April 11, 2009, 16:45:46 ET
Posted by: Denise, cookin'
Very excited that the U.S. part of the summer tour is starting to be announced. Good times ahead. What are the odds Walter will sing something from C$? Any chance, you think?
Bobbo, sorry I missed you on-air this morning: I hope it went well. I do wish to hear you sing again sometime, that's for sure.
Just getting ready for the holiday tomorrow and want to wish all my friends here a happy Easter (and Passover). Hope you all have an enjoyable day tomorrow, whatevah.
Date: Sat, April 11, 2009, 16:19:10 ET
Posted by: deacondeep, singing the unsingable roulade with Kathy Berberian
I presume the donaldfagen on twitter is a fake. Anyone know for sure?
Date: Sat, April 11, 2009, 11:00:43 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
Wow...my brother lives in San Augustine...road trip in the works
Date: Sat, April 11, 2009, 08:53:53 ET
Posted by: steely dana,
Perhaps "our boys" will be searching out the Fountain of Youth while down in St. Augustine in June :-)
Dean:
You lucky devil !!!! Right in your backyard....doesn't get much better than that !!!
Date: Sat, April 11, 2009, 08:37:44 ET
Posted by: Johnny "Poopy" Brown,
Hoops and All:
I wonder if any of the 2009 touring sidemen are offended of being part of the "Breadline" Orchestra? :)
Date: Sat, April 11, 2009, 00:44:24 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach
Our boys are playing less than a mile away from where I live, at the St Augustine Ampitheater.
I was there for the first time, last weekend, when I saw Chicago (decent). Nothing special about the venue, except that it is small, for an ampitheater. I think capacity is 4,000 total, maybe 3,500 seats. I may see Joe Cocker next week, if so, I will scout it better. (also saw Leon Russel last week, at a Rhythm and Ribs festival, for $5 Leon and band were pretty damn good)
Speaking of Al Green, i know this isn't all that impressive to some, but my brother was a studio guitarist on the album Back Up Train, and maybe one other. Old Al Green is awesome.
Date: Sat, April 11, 2009, 00:05:45 ET
Posted by: Lundgren, Rundgren, whatevah., DON'T FORGET TO TUNE INTO MY DEAL PLEASE!
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 23:51:13 ET
Posted by: Bobbo, enjoying the Hoops
Hoops,
Now, THAT was a refreshing bit out of your everyday, brother. I agree, wholeheartedly.
After what David Foster did to Chicago, and Billy Joel's albums without Phil Ramone (Dan Kortchmar? PLEASE say it ain't so!), it's a good question.
I'll agree that Lundgren is not the guy; Larry Klein is good, but...am I the only one that thinks that he and Donald have never hit it off?
And so, in the middle of my moment of trying to get my friends here to check out my latest endeavour in cheap-ass Texas talk radio on 1230AM, Seymour, I'll go way out on a limb for this tidbit (and you can call in about this, too--let's make the show All About Dan, please!):
I think it'd be interesting to see what Prince, Jeff Lynne, or Ray Benson would do with a bunch of new Steely Dan tunes.
There, brother, stir that and shoot it back at me, eh? So lovely to read the Real You again, Jim. I love you, man! Selah...
Okay,
Bobbo
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 23:40:59 ET
Posted by: hoops, home@last
I broke out the DF box recently and have been playing it alot.
I've given "Rhymes" over a dozen spins in the past couple of weeks and I like it less and less, the only Becker and/or Fagen tune I can say that about.
Now I *am* thrilled DF gets to pay tribute to Al Green because clearly Donald thinks the world of him.
But aside from the idea of a nod, if you take away Donald's vocals, it's got little if any trademark Fagen sound. The music and production makes it sound like the theme music from the next upcoming edition of of C.S.I. It has all this oversize, artificial attitude to the production that it overpowers the real attitude in Fagen's voice. Even if it's a great C.S.I. theme, the over-the-top production dwarfs Donald's vocals? In short, it's like Donald is providing guest vocals to someone else's track. And what this track seems to try and attempt had already been achieved much more successfully on other Fagen and Steely Dan tracks.
Clearly Donald's proud of it or he wouldn't have used it to kick off the CD of bonus tracks, but I sadly have to say, there's finally an SD-related tune I don't care for.
Of course, I'm open to someone persuading me otherwise. Like I said, I finally persuaded myself that the right outside producer might be good with Steely Dan. But it's not Todd Rundgren.
As far as Al Green goes, I think "Take Me To The River" is musically a better version of "Rhymes". A little too similar in my book.
Jim
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 23:36:01 ET
Posted by: Bobbo, approaching a baptism of fire
Hey All,
Wanted to let you know that I'm hosting "Top Gear" again, Saturday morning at 9am CST (that's 10am on the East Coast, 7am on the West Coast, and 8am in the Rockies)...
I'm very unfamiliar with the board, as John Wolfe himself usually does this duty, but he's too rich and unavailable in regards to tomorrow morning....
It'll be rough and no-good, by our "talk radio" standards here on the Blue, but I am tied-in, at this point, like that poor ship captain on the Indian Ocean this week, for good or ill.
THERE WILL BE NEWS ABOUT THE DAN TOURING BROADCAST ON THE SHOW. It won't be anything you all don't know about already, but I'll put it there to let you know that it's me, Bobbo, one of your own, flying my own Dan flag.
You can catch it online, at 'gowolfe.com' (just toggle around until you see a "LISTEN LIVE HERE" button), and we'll have a toll-free number, too. Yes, fellas, and girlies, you can call in for free. Appreciate your hanging about, for sure; thanks in advance. Out.
Okay,
Bobbo
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 22:55:09 ET
Posted by: pope ratzo, I
rundgren gets serious funk outta donny without him slipping into the whiteboy 3rd-rate rick james/prince that he is on, say, teahouse or nightgown.
they should bring in lanois for the next one - no the U2 lanois - the lanois lanois.
PR
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 21:55:49 ET
Posted by: Forward Girl, Barely here
A tour is such good news. But I am so broke. Oh well, so I will still be toiling away for the Postal service when I am 110 years old. Wearing my Steely Dan '09 tee shirt...
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 20:33:21 ET
Posted by: hoops, Still @the last mall
Zombie--
You will get a chance to get non- series tix at a later date, although, yeah it sucks if they sell all the best tickets to the series people.
Jim
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 20:28:31 ET
Posted by: update, at SD.com
Jun 09 - Durham, NC - Performing Arts Center | on sale April 17
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 20:02:30 ET
Posted by: Zombie, Luxury Car
Why do Atlanta concert-goers always have to buy a concert package in order to be able to buy early SD tickets?
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 19:46:36 ET
Posted by: hoops, @the last(?) mall
Phil-
Definitely doesn't piss off "Hey Mike".
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 19:28:34 ET
Posted by: PGE, How's the rent in Florida?
Ticketmaster:
St Augustine Amphitheatre, St Augustine, FL
Thu, Jun 18, 2009 08:00 PM
http://tinyurl.com/dd99hs
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 17:56:08 ET
Posted by: steely dana,
Becker, Fagen, and the Breadline Orchestra ......
Gotta love it !!
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 17:00:59 ET
Posted by: Phil, Normal IL
Does it piss anybody else off that Rush Limbaugh uses FM to open his show??
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 13:07:03 ET
Posted by: Doc µ,
hoops: Agreed. I really wish Klein had produced TvN and EMG...but the mix is off and both sound tightly wound in their own way. Arrangements are fine - Klein tweaked the knobs to really put the space and clarity in those W's C$, letting the musicians be musicians.
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 13:05:09 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, outside philly
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for small venues..... none of that outdoor amphitheater stuff....
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 12:53:16 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Hey this all sounds great. We can have our Steely Dan sooner AND later.
For a long time I've held that Steely Dan didn't need an outside producer because basically, through the years, Becker and Fagen are most of all about a certain kind of production. Fagen's "Rhymes" (produced by Todd Rundgren) didn't change my opinion, but "Circus Money" got me thinking Larry Klein would be a great producer to bring in for a Steely Dan studio album if there ever was another. I especially liked an interview where Becker talked about the relationship Klein and Becker had. Sounded very laid back and natural.
Jim
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 12:47:19 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
here's hoping for new Steely Dan in 09.
also, goddamn guys, give me a break ... I gotta shell out $100 *again*? In this economy? ah well.
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 12:34:15 ET
Posted by: DanFan, here
The Steely Dan Newsletter also said, "and some VERY exciting developments
are in the works!"
What?! I can't think of anything more exciting than the restoration of two sets and maybe Denny Dias as an additional guitarist.
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 12:34:10 ET
Posted by: Doc µ,
hmmmmmmmmmmm...could it be? Another One from the duo? Internet Release? Jimmy Buffett's label?
"YES -- more dates will be announced soon ...
and some VERY exciting developments
are in the works!"
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 12:31:49 ET
Posted by: heymike, Just got an email-Home@last!
The boys are back for another run!
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 12:20:36 ET
Posted by: Denise, hinktown cubicle
Becker, Fagen, and
The Breadline Orchestra
invite you to their
Rent Party '09 Tour
United States
Jun 09 - Durham, NC - Performing Arts Center | on sale April 17
Aug 15 - Atlanta, GA - Chastain | subscribers early on sale | general on sale May 11
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 12:18:54 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Soon!
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 12:09:32 ET
Posted by: FZ,
Hey "Hoops" -
When's that Becker Disc coming out?
Date: Fri, April 10, 2009, 07:25:09 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston
Wishing Dave Brubeck a speedy recovery from a viral infection at home in Conn....fezzie
Date: Thurs, April 09, 2009, 17:25:27 ET
Posted by: MyOwnSelf, here
Hi everyone -
It's that time of year again. Yep, can you believe it? It's already time to vote for the 2009 Drummie Awards, from Drum! Magazine.
Please vote for Keith Carlock everywhere applicable:
http://www.drummagazine.com/drummies
THANK YOU :)
PS - Tell a friend!
Date: Wed, April 08, 2009, 17:43:11 ET
Posted by: Silvio,
That's 1.6 Million, of course, and I'm really trying to do my best but, see, I have all these expenses...
Date: Wed, April 08, 2009, 17:18:02 ET
Posted by: Hank,
I don't know if you can get the MSG channel outside of NY, but tomorrow night at 10:00 there is a special on the newly refurbished Beacon Theater.
DF appears in the promo video --
http://video.msg.com/Videos/MSG-Networks/1j3VoDwAjxLcgljQEdvZKkrMMsShFDIz
Date: Wed, April 08, 2009, 08:41:32 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I prefer the Perrier Jouet Brut '89, an impertinent little vintage. Let's take out a few Euros for a case or two before we pass the bucks on down the line.
There are 1.6 people in the Abruzzo region. Its governor drags down a higher salary than the Governor of California, a state of more than 36 million but closer to 42 million counting all the unregistered guests. That's Italian politics. Americans complain of big government but what goes on here is heinous.
Date: Wed, April 08, 2009, 06:58:37 ET
Posted by: Bernie "Mad Dog" Madoff, on fire!
You're right Raj... How dare six levels of government take their slice before the people get anything! Here in the U.S. that's the multinational corporations job!
Can you send a bottle of Perrier-Jouet 2000 to the tenth floor of the Metropolitan Correctional Center when ya get a chance? I promise I'm good for it.
Date: Wed, April 08, 2009, 06:40:31 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
You guys should know that the massive and impotent government that rules in Italy talk a good game but rarely delivers anything on time. The hospitals have run out of supplies, it's been three days now. Silvio Berlusconi is a master at telling people what they want to hear. He said the other day in Aquila, "no one will be left behind." Sound familiar? He's George Bush with a better vocabulary. Then there's all the thievery in government. Before money trickles down to the neediest, six levels of government official have taken their slice. It's a crime.
Date: Wed, April 08, 2009, 05:08:32 ET
Posted by: Moondog, Piazzola sul Brenta, Padova
Moondog here.
I am in the north of Italy, a few kilometers from Venice so the quake hasn't effected us here at all.
I do though have relatives and friends in that area and luckily all of them are safe and sound.
The earth is still quaking down there and there are many people without home . I hope the Italian government acts very quickly to help these desperate people.
Date: Wed, April 08, 2009, 04:40:41 ET
Posted by: Deaconblue, Brussels
Actually i'm living 1500km from Aquila. So i'm safe and well.But thanks for your concern.
My thoughts are with all the families of the victims and all those ones that lost their home and sleeping now in tents.
Italy's prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, compared the actual situation of the rescapies with " just a simple camping holiday ".
These words coming from from the mouth of a fascist is not a real surprise but what a shame!.
Date: Wed, April 08, 2009, 02:34:26 ET
Posted by: oih, oihoi
JAMES TAYLOR AND BAND
DOWN HOME TOUR SPRING 2009
keith carlock / larry goldings / jeff babko (thru may 4) / jimmy johnson
mike landau / david lasley / kate markowitz / arnold mcculler / andrea zonn
Date: Tues, April 07, 2009, 21:00:09 ET
Posted by: Bobbo, sending a positive vibe to our friends 'round the Homeland...
Hey,
Rajah, Moondog, (Deacon?) Blue, all of ours over in the central Italian countryside, glad you're all okay...? From the earliest reports, that's the word; hope those aftershocks are few, far between, and leaving you room to recoup!
It's funny, your take on it, Raj old buddy. Though we did get a weird groundfog over the Chumash Mountains in '07, no quakes for that particular trip...
What price life on this little green ball, eh? Cheers, and we're thinkin' about you over there, troops. Over-and-out.
Okay,
Bobbo
Date: Tues, April 07, 2009, 20:04:45 ET
Posted by: anon, us
Moondog, how are things in your area of Italy? Hope you are OK.
Date: Tues, April 07, 2009, 14:35:52 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Thank you for your concern, you guys, kidding aside, I appreciate it very much.
The populace is being worn down by the aftershocks here, people are sleeping in tents and in their cars. But I'm here at home, I figure if and when it's your time, it's your time, so, hey now, c'mon, on with the Steely Dan show.
Date: Tues, April 07, 2009, 11:57:25 ET
Posted by: Craig B.,
Rajah
Glad to hear you are safe
Date: Tues, April 07, 2009, 02:36:23 ET
Posted by: SteveeDan, No Shaking Here, Thank God
Hey Rajah - -
I heard the news today about the quakes. I was thinking about you. In fact, I was just going to write you a personal e-mail when I thought to come here to look for signs of life from you ... and there you are !!!
I hope that no one in your family was hurt and that everyone is OK.
Here's another piece of proof of how great the Bluebook can be when something dire is happening.
Take care Raj ... write me if you can.
SteveeDan
Date: Mon, April 06, 2009, 16:11:18 ET
Posted by: Rajah, the stars bled out last night
You have a good man there, my trusty Angel-girl. My hugs to him.
Date: Mon, April 06, 2009, 15:41:36 ET
Posted by: angel, Me Slinky Redfoot...trusty angel girls
Oh yeah, we Italians are a superstitious bunch. When I married my guy, I protected him with a devil's horn...whatever works. :-)
BTW: Hubby said to say Hi and he was glad you were OK. Stay safe.
Date: Mon, April 06, 2009, 14:12:53 ET
Posted by: Rajah, crossing bridges of light
Aw, shucks, darlin', you should know it's gonna take more than the Northridge and Abruzzo quakes to topple this Turban. But I'm gratified by your concern.
The populace is now waiting for another quake, the cu de gras. People here are so superstitious, Italians may be 97% Catholic but scratch the surface and their pagan roots show right through. Disease, disasters, accidents carry much more of a sense that they are being punished by the gods for some undefined wrongs.
Date: Mon, April 06, 2009, 13:28:11 ET
Posted by: angel,
Rajah, as soon as I heard, I headed over here. Glad you are fine.
Date: Mon, April 06, 2009, 13:07:32 ET
Posted by: Rajah, Abruzzo
Who me? Thank you for caring, sweetheart, I'm moved deeply, I figured you were hoping I'd be buried under a pile of 5th century BC rock by now. No, I'm fine, our 15th century church lost its facade though and the castle tower now tilts some but, naw, the Northridge quake in '94 was worse, although this one accelerated dramatically over 20 or so seconds. Whole towns are buried, gone, the death toll is at 100 which is already 25% worse than Northridge. Northridge hit 6.7, this one is estimated at 6.3 but duration, angle of the quake and this acceleration thing also figure in.
Natural disasters just seem to follow me around...
Date: Mon, April 06, 2009, 09:17:27 ET
Posted by: Mme. Erzulie, I got the news
Rajah, I hope your recent post indicates that you are out of harm's way after the quake. Confirm if you can, OK?
ME
Date: Mon, April 06, 2009, 03:37:23 ET
Posted by: coled, Porter
re- Becker production influence
I do think he might have added an edge that seems to be missing from Morph.....having said that I think they album was overly criticized when it came out ...particualry by Cromelin (once a big ally of the Dan).... bright Nigthgown is one of my favourtie Fagen tracks though...funky....and fuckin funnnny!
re- I have a theory about the Morph concept too- ie. it is an homage to cool dj's...ala Mort Fega etc
re- Bread, Pablo Cruise etc: the suck! just my humble opinion....I'll take Stevie, Jeff Beck, Stealers Wheel...Doobies anyday heck even 3 Dog Night.....but 70's pop is great...something about that nice analog production...even early Billy Joel is decent....
re-substance abuse-we've all abused something or other in our lives...but I can't recall any specific stuff on Fagen except cigarettes...and maybe he dropped acid circa '70...Becker appears to have had more serious trouble but appears to have made a big turn circa '83...and returned to the music scene with that great China Crisi album in late '84...alhtough becker's lyrics do seem to be more druggy than his Steely lyrics...Beckers almost a cross between Jimmy Buffet and Tom Waits....hahha
Date: Sun, April 05, 2009, 23:01:06 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Shoes and socks say nothing about performance. They speak to how well-heeled a man is, if you'll pardon the pun.
Pablo Cruise had a nice Latin groove, they were OK.
Date: Sun, April 05, 2009, 21:46:32 ET
Posted by: Mme. Erzulie, Peel me a grape, will you?
Well Rajah, a man's choice and condition of shoes and socks reveal much about his performance in the bedroom. Very important, not to be overlooked...
And perhaps I was prepubescent at the height of Bread's popularity. However, later hits like "Last Train to St. Tropez" also had an appeal. And I'm not ashamed to admit I loved Pablo Cruise.
ME
Date: Sun, April 05, 2009, 16:41:39 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Well, Hoopsie, thank you, but it's understandable, or is it understandible when the great and powerful Rajah shows his ass that folks wanna jump all over it. I know I would. [rim shot] Thank you. I must be coming out of my depressive state...oh, these are the jokes, folks, help a brotha out wontcha...
As for Bread, Ms. Erzulie, oh they were so weak, David Gates had a sweet voice but only a pre-pubescent could relate to Diary or I Wanna Make it With You. What righteous woman would wanna, "make it," excuse me here beforehand, withat limp-dick motherfucker singin' that song? Bread made America sound like NIN. Now, "I wanna fuck you like and animal," now that was a rock n roll lyric for the ages.
Yes, I has gots Bread's first two records...but I was 14 or 15, still pure, still innocent and still romantic if you can believe it.
Date: Sun, April 05, 2009, 15:37:29 ET
Posted by: hoops, headed out the door
Az thuh facilitatar hear, eye havve thuh oppportunity uf gooing bacck annd corrrecting anee typos eye mayke--annd eye mayke qhyte a feew. Eye havee alwayss hadd a harrd time proofreeding on-screeen annd neeed 2 yous payper.
The person who brought up this whole "definately" thread should be given a proverbial smack. When you nit-pick like that, it really cools anyone from having interest in posting anything of substance. As joke it's lame--and if you are serious go get a life--either way get a life.
About the same day, someone kindly sent me a private email about another European concert date that wasn't posted anywhere (not sure if it is now). When I saw the nit-picking about spelling, I sighed to myself and decided to skip it--why bother if people are going to discuss grammar instead of a the fact there is another delightful SD show coming up.
Email me if you are headed to Europe and want to know about the show.
If you really want to help the Blue, please don't respond to this thread in any way any more.
Thanks,
jim
Date: Sun, April 05, 2009, 12:57:13 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Definately is definitely wrong. But it looked right. You live with another language for a while and you begin to lose the feel for your own. Those are my excuses. But like it or not, people do measure you by your usage and grammar. Like when a woman looks at a man's shoes and fingernails.
Don't and ain't have become accepted alternatives to doesn't and isn't. I am persuaded these changes have their roots in rural usage, both from black and white folks. I say if it ain't broke, don't fix it. English is a lot grittier than it was fifty years ago. It's all good.
Morph casts a pallor over the record, lugubrious and eerie. Strange days indeed.
Date: Sun, April 05, 2009, 08:56:14 ET
Posted by: Jayme, Daffodils and bunny trails.
Hi there: I Saved Latin:
Three random responses to your post.
1. I am wondering, poster, what is YOUR relation to drugs? I really wish to discuss it in a public forum, in order to validate your existence. I think that it’s unfair that more drugs have not been shared over the years from the “haves” to the “have nots.” Don’t you think that’s the REAL issue?
2. We planted a mic on the persona in “Things. . . “ and overheard discussion that the whole band dabbles in mind-over-matter phenomena, and is highly concerned, in general, in all things spiritual.
3. I believe that if we revisit the metaphor that Morph is not unlike a giant Garfield balloon at Macy’s parade, ala Rajah I believe, then if the cat had been any tighter, it would have exploded all over the place leaving spectators communicating in helium talk for the rest of the afternoon. Security Joan is simply a master work and so funked-up that I wonder what would happen if it were even more concentrated. Should the groove be even more funked? No. Fagen didn’t cross the line to overfunking Security Joan. But you want more funk, yes? Bright Nightgown perpetuates itself, yes. It is symbolic of what may be an everlasting state of worry or concern that won’t go away; it speaks to the overall climate of society. The lesson to be learned is you can’t hide from them (or it) if, indeed, they have it in their plans to come and GET YOU! So have courage. --Jayme
Date: Sat, April 04, 2009, 17:24:16 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba, Diana Ross + Steely Dan connection
I wasn't really aware of this link. Gary Katz co-produced Diana Ross's 1983 album "Ross":
http://www.diana-web.com/steve/steve1.html
It also looks like Donald wrote one of the songs ("Love Will Make It Right")... originally from the Nightfly sessions?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGSbIe0DWRg
And that even Michael McDonald got in the game ("That's How You Start Over"): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YF_FHGUhOc
Date: Sat, April 04, 2009, 13:00:43 ET
Posted by: Scat (ological) Boys,
The Diary, I remember it well
First Verse
I found her Diarrhea underneath the tree,
And got a funny feeling about me....
On and on..can't remember all of the verses
Last Verse
The scat she tried to hide
Was for someone else not me...
Yeah, we had a lot of fun rewording that one back in the old days--hee, hee, hee!!
Date: Sat, April 04, 2009, 11:58:51 ET
Posted by: Mme. Erzulie, it's anyone's guess
Hey, I liked Bread...."Guitar Man" or "Diary" anyone?
M.E.
Date: Sat, April 04, 2009, 08:37:50 ET
Posted by: A goof, A buzz
McDonald said in an interview years ago that they were reckless on tour, Donald more than Walter.
Date: Sat, April 04, 2009, 05:30:53 ET
Posted by: iSavedLatin, -
Three random things:
1. The Dan have obviously put out their fair share of drug related songs over the years. I seem to remember reading about Walter's abuse of various substances around the Gaucho era, but what do we know about Donald's relation to drugs? Any links would be much appreciated.
2. In "Things I miss the most" Maestro Fagen - as you all know - delivers the line "I'm learning how to meditate, so far so good". I was wondering if either of the guys have ever talked about doing meditation in real life, and if so; under which tradition?
3. Would "Morph the cat" have been tighter - as in more concise - if Walter had taken care of production duties, just like he did on "Kamakiriad"? I believe cuts like "Security Joan" and "Brite nightgown" have a bit of a watered down feeling to them.
Thanks for reading!
Date: Fri, April 03, 2009, 23:51:37 ET
Posted by: Doc µ, a new address
Date: Fri, April 03, 2009, 08:28:55 ET
Posted by: New, Contest
Let's cite SD lyrics that incorrectly use "don't."
-------------------
That's right. What language is actually spoken in Ghana?
Date: Fri, April 03, 2009, 18:58:23 ET
Posted by: Mr. Ramen,
I like noodles.
Date: Fri, April 03, 2009, 13:56:44 ET
Posted by: Stop the Insanity, on the blue
So this is what we've come to - picking at one another's grammar, spelling, and punctuation. Absurd.
There was that Bread song, though, entitled "It Don't Matter to Me." The illiterate bastards.
Date: Fri, April 03, 2009, 09:55:01 ET
Posted by: big greg m fan, i am not worthy
dude greg you rock and you are right.
SD hasn't been very good since jerome aniton was in the band.
i heard that they are going to take a kenny g track and have donald sing over it and walt double lead with g.
i'd double lead with lisa g if ya know what i mean!!!
Date: Fri, April 03, 2009, 08:28:55 ET
Posted by: New, Contest
Let's cite SD lyrics that incorrectly use "don't."
Date: Fri, April 03, 2009, 08:06:16 ET
Posted by: Mrs. Fenstermacher,
Nope. Outside the quotes in this case.
http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp (Rule #2)
And "definitely" is the most incorrectly spelled word on this or any other board. Don't feel bad.
Think "finite" with a de at the beginning and an ly at the end.
Date: Fri, April 03, 2009, 07:53:25 ET
Posted by: Greg M, huh?
<<<dude. ive been around the block a few times. donald can actually play the piano. he is reluctant to do so in concert. the melodicaca sounds like shit. his syntar patches sound like shit.>>>
We'll, he hasn't used the syntar for like 2 or 3 tours now...
<<why does he allow doodle boy to solo when they have WORLD CLASS soloists on stage? >>
hmmmm maybe because doodle boy owns 50% of Steely Dan? I really don't know... lol
Date: Fri, April 03, 2009, 00:20:49 ET
Posted by: rajie, sucks
dude. ive been around the block a few times. donald can actually play the piano. he is reluctant to do so in concert. the melodicaca sounds like shit. his syntar patches sound like shit.
why does he insist on playing them? he had a great synth patch in the early days of his revival.
why does he allow doodle boy to solo when they have WORLD CLASS soloists on stage?
http://www.harpercollins.com/authors/34496/Suzanne_Pirret/index.aspx
Date: Thurs, April 02, 2009, 19:07:06 ET
Posted by: Brutal Correcta, Grammar Garrison
Brut -
"DefinAtely"... ?
Quotation marks outside the punctuation? I'm disappointed.
What is this? The Commonwealth?
Date: Thurs, April 02, 2009, 18:18:24 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma, Grammar Gramma
Raj -
"DefinAtely"... ? I'm disappointed in you.
Date: Thurs, April 02, 2009, 16:35:54 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
It's definitely from the Wizard of Oz...
I would not be just a nothin' my head all full of stuffin'
My heart all full of pain.
I would dance and be merry, life would be a ding-a-derry,
If I only had a brain.
Date: Thurs, April 02, 2009, 11:31:06 ET
Posted by: HINDALOOVER, therouéstepsoutfromgothenburg
sorry to break any threads of discussion. I am not used to forums, and apologise for any interruption to thread of discussion. I am trying to locate an audio file of The Steely Damned's 2nd Arrangement by Don & walt. . It was on the cover band's site a few years back, and I should have recorded it. It is now easier to find the Holy Grail. Can anybody please, please help me. Eternally grateful!.......HINDALOOVER (Gothenburg)
Date: Thurs, April 02, 2009, 11:01:30 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Bill, thanks for the link ... checked out the site, looks like a larger melodica with a mic built in for amplification instead of having to mic it externally. So we'll still be hearing some melodica.
Date: Thurs, April 02, 2009, 07:00:25 ET
Posted by: The Tin Man,
Huh -
The guitar quote is, definitely, "If I Only Had a Brain".
Date: Thurs, April 02, 2009, 05:07:52 ET
Posted by: White Fang, not close enough
SD at the Montreux Jazz Festival this year. Jul 4. Its on the festival site and on steelydan.com too.
Date: Wed, April 01, 2009, 19:13:34 ET
Posted by: Huh??,
No correct answer was given for Walt's solo quote at the end of Josie?
Date: Wed, April 01, 2009, 16:26:45 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
It's not the melodica or the piano or the guitar or the violin that makes the music, it's the person behind it. Donald Fagen would make a comb and wax paper sound like gold. He has magic.
Date: Wed, April 01, 2009, 14:44:39 ET
Posted by: hello, i must be going
melodion sux.
hz
Date: Wed, April 01, 2009, 12:24:20 ET
Posted by: Jamie, La Jolla- aka San Diego aka America's Finest City
Greetings everyone ! I know , twice in one quarter- call it- renewed Spring Time interest in Steely Dan. What is mildly funny, is the Grateful Dead, well, just the Dead, are going on tour like the old days. A lot of my friends want to go. When they bring this up, I simply say, yes, I would love to on tour but cannot. And then I add- if I had my druthers, I would be in Europe touring with the Boys at some of the greatest music venues in the world...to which they all kind of go, oooooohhhh.
Anyways, there was an article on cover bands in the SDReader again- decent piece on the Steely Damnned with some interesting info. Also of note- I missed them play last Friday- doh !:
The Steely Damned are, as you’d expect, a Steely Dan tribute. Founded in 1993 by Bob Tedde of Rockola, Rolling Stone magazine once anointed them “San Diego’s Best Cover Band” (September 1994).
“When I made the decision to actually start rounding up musicians,” says Tedde, “the real Steely Dan hadn’t been playing live since 1974. I saw an opportunity for us to hold a semi-unique status, since Dan fans were pretty much convinced the real Steely were never going to tour again. The day we booked our first show, Donald Fagen and Walter Becker announced Steely Dan’s first tour in almost 20 years. I figured that meant TSD would get a year or two run.” That was 15 years ago.
Fagen and Becker are definitely aware of those Damned San Diegans. “They were interviewed locally by Madison on KPRI,” says Tedde, “and we came up in conversation. To which they replied they liked the concept of maybe having us go out on tour [standing in] for them, or the idea of a Steely Dan Mania franchise…both Becker and Fagen also mention us during an interview with Pete Fogel, in their live DVD for the Two Against Nature tour.”
Like the Cured and Stepping Feet, the Steely Damned have been fortunate enough to perform with actual players from Steely Dan recordings. “We played at Le Bar Bat, a Manhattan club that has since disappeared,” says Bob Tedde. “Bernard Purdie came in and played drums on three or four of the songs he originally ‘purdied up,’ stuff from The Royal Scam, Aja, and Gaucho. It was beyond awesome!”
Steely Damned guitarist Hank Easton says, “I’ve been enamored with their music since I first heard them at age 13. Especially the guitar parts, and specifically the guitar solos. They really opened my eyes up to the possibilities of electric guitar, mixing the intensity of rock with the melodicism of jazz. Of course, the songs themselves are works of art as well.”
Steely Dan being a mathematically precise recording unit, Easton concedes that there’s little room for improvisation. “I play most of the solos note-for-note like the originals, as I consider them the points of highest intensity in the songs. In some cases, I feel the solos are even more important than the melody. That being said, when I get a chance to enhance the song with little riffs or personal nuances, I’ll often take that opportunity, always being mindful not to overdo it or clutter up the sound.”
The Steely Damned also performs unreleased material. “ ‘The Second Arrangement’ was to be the title track of Steely Dan’s Gaucho album,” says Bob Tedde. “Almost completed, the multitrack tape was compromised when an assistant engineer accidentally wiped a large section of the rhythm section out of the song’s middle. Donald Fagen thought it was a magical recording and refused to attempt a rerecording.” Using a bootleg of the pre-corrupted track, and some undisclosed “inside information,” the Damned even worked up a horn arrangement for the tune, provided by local Zappa alum Mike Keneally.
Another unofficial track, “Mobile Home,” was Steely Dan’s set-closer for many 1974 concerts. “The Steely Damned’s version is an amalgam of three different live renditions,” says Tedde, “including the Live at the Record Plant version. We also added horns. Gently.”
Date: Wed, April 01, 2009, 11:34:08 ET
Posted by: Steely Fan, NJ
I don't know if that is what he was playing Saturday, but during one of his solos I remember thinking "that actually doesn't sound bad" and wondered why I never cared for the melodica at SD concerts.
Date: Wed, April 01, 2009, 09:30:37 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
Good news, of sorts, for all you Melodica-bashers. Donald is apparently switching to a new portable, breath-powered keyboard made by Hammond-Suzuki: http://www.hammondorganco.com
The Hammond 44 Melodion has taken Pro Musicians by storm. Everyone wants to play this new and exciting instrument. Here are a few words from some of the greats who were the first to take delivery of the Hammond 44 Pro Melodion
DONALD FAGEN (Steely Dan): I loved the Pro 44 Melodion - nice sound, nice action --I plan on using it on stage this summer -- - great product.
