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Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 21:49:44 ET
Posted by: Hutch, Posting an awful lot today
I was talking about the Rainey bass line on KC the other day.
Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Laxi4GTOTq0
Super cool bass line. The kid really nails it!
Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 20:36:42 ET
Posted by: tripel, NYC
actually, i would drive from NYC and a friend would fly in from toronto ...only flight arrives 640p. Trying to gauge how much leeway we'd have -- if SD hits the stage at 8pm, feels awfully tight... But wondering if they have had some other act on these non-casino shows where Yahel is not opening, or what?
Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 20:25:39 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
well, i guess that doesn't matter, but....only bring a carry-on, you can take train from PHL to 30th street then right to upper darby. if no flight delay you should be there in plenty of time.
Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 20:19:25 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
why would you fly to Philly from NYC?
Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 19:50:12 ET
Posted by: tripel, NYC
Help!
Trying to fly to Philly to catch the Nov 20th show, however, looks like my flight will land at 6:40pm. It says the show starts at 8pm, but what time does SD actually hit the stage? If I recall from the Beacon shows I saw, they didn't go on until a bit before 9pm -- BUT that was with Sam Y opening, and I don't see that he's slated to open in Philly.
Can anyone give specifics?
Thanks much
Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 17:15:30 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
You zoomed me, Hutch, you're always so serious...ok, well, you make a salient point. Where the fuck is this next Steely Dan record?
Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 17:04:27 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Just a little sarcastic humor there fellas. No harm meant.
You all know well my perpetual mantra. It's been six long years since EMG.
I'm just sayin'.
Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 16:30:21 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" AP Wire - (New York) - Donald Fagen and Walter Becker of the Jazz/Pop group Steely Dan have announced that .... decided to just tour year round playing only the songs they've written years ago. "
This makes Joey ...... well , ......... happy .
" In a related development a Steely Dan fan named "Joey" has been admitted to a local hospital with what doctors are describing as, "The worst case of exposive diarrhea we've ever seen". "
This makes Joey giggle .
Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 16:22:56 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Hutch would never post a thing like that. Who do you think you're zooming?
Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 13:23:58 ET
Posted by: Colt 45, Lone Star State Out of Mind
That first week in Nov. Is wide open, just like the plains down here! C'mon Dallas, Housto etc.
Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 10:27:07 ET
Posted by: Tour Plotter, r
I would have expected those Milwaukee dates between Denver and Merrilville. Cincinnati to Milwaukee to Akron isn't the most efficient scheduling.
Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 07:40:57 ET
Posted by: H,
uhhh.... explosive.
Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 07:39:27 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
AP Wire - (New York) - Donald Fagen and Walter Becker of the Jazz/Pop group Steely Dan have announced that they have completely run out of ideas for a new album and have decided to just tour year round playing only the songs they've written years ago.
In a related development a Steely Dan fan named "Joey" has been admitted to a local hospital with what doctors are describing as, "The worst case of exposive diarrhea we've ever seen".
Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 00:57:41 ET
Posted by: MP, RG
As the newsletter hinted, steelydan.com now updated with Milwaukee dates.
Date: Wed, September 30, 2009, 00:35:55 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Hou - were you in Dallas in 2003? Crappy acoustics, but Fagen and the band set the place on fiyah! His vocals were so spot-on that night. Never better.
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 23:08:01 ET
Posted by: Also.......,
Look for Steely Dan to do shows in Texas, New Mexico, etc when it gets snowy up north. That could be after the first of the year.
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 22:46:09 ET
Posted by: wondering, in NE
Anyone guessing what SD will announce tomorrow? New dates? But where?
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 21:15:28 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Sending postcards from Paraguay
I think that makes this tour their longest to date.
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 21:10:51 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
Nov 13 - Milwaukee WI - Riverside | Aja (Plus) | AMEX presale 10/6 - general on sale 10/9
Nov 14 - Milwaukee WI - Riverside | The Royal Scam (Plus) | AMEX presale 10/6 - general on sale 10/9
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 20:56:59 ET
Posted by: Bart Starr, Cheese Head nation
November 13 & 14 - Milwaukee : Riverside
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 20:19:56 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
The 2003 u-tube version of Black Cow is almost as good as it gets...Mr. Bumpus was outstanding on the sax solo...Speaking of Cornelius, the guy can sing too. I recently saw him on u-tube singing the Jesus Is Just Allright wih the Doobs...I miss that dude.
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 19:20:21 ET
Posted by: G. Jetson, Eep Opp Ork Ah-Ah (Means I Love You)
You're right.
Don and Walt should have their own venue (see Levon Helm), but instead of having it way upstate they should have it in Manhattan (see B.B. King). Then they can book their own acts, play their own venue, and cut out the middleman...
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 13:53:40 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
"HUH" in Reistertown, MD:
Please excuse my ignorance.
Thank you for, so-politely, explaining (somewhat) about tour planning and scheduling.
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 13:06:13 ET
Posted by: anymanleft, rio grande
I just snagged up 2 seats for the 11/20 show at The Tower Theater and noticed there are only about 75-100 left.If you're thinking about it but haven't done so, better grab them now before the scalpers suck up whats left. Still some in the $60-$90 range available.But they won't be in that range come next week...
On the rising tide to New York City did they ride into the streets
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 11:52:28 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the quick, in chicago
Chris;
You're trying too hard :-)
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 11:47:43 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Hoops - or he could just do what most of us do and watch Steely Dan on Youtube while seeing them in person as often as possible. Come to think of it, that works with your analogy too.
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 11:26:32 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Hmmm.... this was written three years ago:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/31/arts/music/31vinc.html?pagewanted=print
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 11:13:42 ET
Posted by: Nuttin' new, Here there und everywhere
Todd Rundgren just toured his "A Wizard, A True Star" album. Devo is playing their "Q- Are We Not Men, A- We Are Devo" album one night and their 2nd lp the next. Plenty more of these type events going/went on.
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 11:11:25 ET
Posted by: Van Shoes,
Cleveland Scene Weekly
Testicle-Gargling Steely Dan Coming to Town
Cleveland Scene Weekly
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 11:09:52 ET
Posted by: hoops, passing through on the quick, recovering from being sick
Bob:
I had a nightmare last night that you posted:
"If you can't afford to have a girlfriend or get married, watch X Tube. I have saved a fortune on dinner dates, divorce settlements and college funds. And my hand is stronger, although hairier, for it."
Of course, remember that I find Steely Dan concerts (the ones I attend) as good as sex.
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 11:00:44 ET
Posted by: Steely Fan, NJ
JJ, i realize that and it's not a first for Springsteen either. Just the fact that he's now chosen to rotate three albums mirrors closely what SD did (before Gaucho was scrapped.)
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 10:39:21 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
who in their right mind would think steely dan wrote something as god-awful as that disco track?
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 10:08:35 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Steely Fan - The idea about doing "classic albums" at live shows came long before Steely Dan started doing it.
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 08:17:52 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
worst of all, he stole Cindy Mizelle.
Date: Tues, September 29, 2009, 07:59:20 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Steely Fan - Thanks for the warning.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 21:46:27 ET
Posted by: Steely Fan, NJ
Springsteen announced tonight that he will play one of three classic albums at each of his five upcoming shows at Giants Stadium. Sounds familiar.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 20:55:41 ET
Posted by: Bernie,
Bob- A life...get one!
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 20:03:25 ET
Posted by: Bob, standing next to a Luckless Pedistrian
If you can't afford the shows do what I do. Wait till they are all posted on U Tube. I have saved a fortune simply waiting till the shows are all up on U Tube.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 19:11:21 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, closeenough,but2faraway
oops...forgot about this; it's pouring now and I won't head in:
Jeff "Skunk" Baxter is "sitting in" for Les Paul tonight at the Iridium Jazz Club. Every week the Les Paul Trio has had a guest fill Les' shoes, hands etc. Trio stills plays 2 sets every Monday night in the Cit-hey.
oops...forgot about this;
L'Image played last night (actually the past 4 nights) at the Iridium Jazz Club. The band featured Steve Gadd on drums, Michael Mainieri from Steps Ahead on vibes and the incredible Tony Levin from EVERYONE (check his website for his appearences, the man is the hardest working dude in the biz) on bass/stick guitars. I would've loved to see this band but do to work, a concert from Porcupine Tree Thursday night and I was in the cit-hey all day and didn't want to knock around for a few extra hours. Wanted to get home...@ last. Although the new episodes of the Simpsons, Cleveland, Family Guy and American Dad were ok, I should've gone to the gigs. Iridium usually allows audience members to stay for the late set by only paying the table cover ($15-)
oops...
Is it that really a typo on The Donald's website regarding the show types? Or did he really title the album the "The Royal Scum" originally , but had to cater to the industries moral p/c codes back then??
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 17:39:22 ET
Posted by: test pressing,
That is NOT Donald Fagen singing on those tracks.
Go back to "Dog Eat Dog", "Sail the Waterway", or "Running Child" to hear what Fagen sounded like back then. And "Brain Tap Shuffle" for Becker.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 17:37:14 ET
Posted by: Bernie,
Anyone that thinks that's Fagen singing on that test pressing should have the shit cleaned out of their ears!
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 17:26:40 ET
Posted by: Rob, Test Pressing?
A little snippet from Wiki about Elliot Randall:
In 1972 Randall left New York for California in the hopes of doing something bigger. It was then that he reunited with Becker and Fagen, as well as childhood friend Jeff 'Skunk' Baxter, and recorded the first Steely Dan album, Can't Buy a Thrill. Randall's guitar work on Reelin' in the Years became popular as the song headed up the charts, and soon, as the solo gained fame and respect, Randall began getting calls from other artists.
So, whether Elliott or Skunk (which were BOTH in California in the early 70s playing with Fagen and Becker), the guitar on that test pressing track sounds very similar to the guitar tone on the album "Can't Buy A Thrill."
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 17:23:05 ET
Posted by: Rajah, Italy
You give me hope, Young Wu, you give me hope.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 17:19:28 ET
Posted by: bikemann, nj
Thanks Rob!!!
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 17:15:03 ET
Posted by: Rob, Test Pressing?
Hi, thanks for the guitarist correction.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 17:11:26 ET
Posted by: Rob, Test Pressing?
Here you go:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140347809681
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 17:07:42 ET
Posted by: bikemann, nj
Hi, Could someone please get me to this ebay action test pressing? I can't seem to find it. Thanks
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 17:02:51 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Rob - Between not knowing if that's Fagen on that test pressing (or even thinking that it could be him) and saying that Jeff Baxter played on RITY, you really shouldn't be posting on this site.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 16:56:01 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Rob - That was Elliot Randall not Skunk Baxter on RITY
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 16:46:44 ET
Posted by: Rob, Test Pressing?
About the guitar, Jeff "Skunk Baxter is both playing with SD on the west coast during the time of those ABC staffwriting sessions and he is the guitarist on "Reelin' In The Years." With the guitar tone/style for both tracks sounding similar, that's another thing to think about as well. About the vocals, if the 45 does come from an early staffwriting session intended to write tracks for all sorts of ABC artists in multiple styles, I would think that Fagen's vocals might not sound exactly-exactly the same as the later SD recordings both because of the yet-to-fully-mature aspect of Fagen's voice and for recording-budget concerns of a simple staff session. Again, another thought to ponder.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 16:35:31 ET
Posted by: Rob, Test Pressing?
After doing a little bio-search on SD, according to the following account, SD moved to California in the early-70s (where Monarch Manufacturing Company, the maker of that test pressing, was located and which was often contracted to press ABC recordings) and became staff writers for other ABC artists. So, it could be something from those staff sessions written for other artists and not for SD themselves:
"In 1971, Broadway crony Gary Katz, now an A&R man for ABC-Dunhill Records in L.A., convinces president Jay Lasker to take the duo on as staff songwriters. They move out to the coast where they are given a tiny office containing a desk and a piano. While attempting to come up with pop material for the label's roster of artists, they scheme to assemble a band and continue to add to their "other book of songs. When Lasker agrees to a recording budget, Becker, Fagen and Katz send for some game east coast players and rehearsals commence in a vacant room at ABC-Dunhill after hours. The original lineup (in addition to Donald and Walter on keyboard and bass) is: Jim Hodder, drums; Jeff "Skunk Baxter, guitar; Denny Dias, guitar; and Dave Palmer, vocals."
The first track seems to sound like Fagen with the overdubbing of the vocals to create that classic "Fagen-effect", the vocal inflections, and the tone of the voice, (not to mention the tone of that gritty distorted electric guitar sound that is very Reeling In The Years-like).
Also, it seems the seller has doubts as well and isn't stating anything emphatically in the auction description, just that it could be possible.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 16:18:53 ET
Posted by: Sothersby, mint
Doesn't sound like Fagen to me, but worth a listen.
http://www.divshare.com/download/8607814-a61
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 16:00:54 ET
Posted by: Rob, Donald Fagen/SD Test Pressing?
About that eBay test pressing, I don't believe the seller is "baiting" SD diehards. If you listen to one of the clips on the auction, the vocals really do sound like Donald Fagen and both the lyrical topic of "creeping around at night" and the jazzy ii-V/ii-V musical progression right before the chorus is classic SD and not a musical progression one typically hears in rock music. So, it seems there are more checks in the check column than in the seller-baiting-diehards column. It's worth a listen and an honest assessment as it sounds like Donald to me.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 15:35:24 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Bodhisattva, man...
Don Patrol, I like it. I like it a lot.
I agree, life just isn't worth living if you ain't having enjoying it. And believe me, I sure as hell am. It's hard not to when your Fall concert series consists of Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, Billy Joel, and of course Steely Dan among others.
I think Dan Fans just "get" life better than most people. We know what the finer things are, and really know how to live life. No bullshit, just grooving and living to some of best produced music since Mozart walked the Earth.
Enjoy your D.C. shows, and I'll be there with ya on Nov. 25th sitting in awe as the smoothest album ever recorded gets played in its entirety. Damn... life's good!
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 14:59:09 ET
Posted by: Denise, in Hinktown cubicle & bored
Walt's website has been updated:
http://walterbecker.com/
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 14:56:21 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Excellent, Don Patrol.
I think you've got it.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 14:47:59 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
An afterthought...if Ilived in NYC I'd be bankrupt!
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 14:21:27 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
I'm no spring chicken, (mid-fifties)but since '93 i've been willing to spend my hard earned money on QUALITY music. I just put in the overtime and pay the price that must be paid. Just a middle class family guy who likes the Dan. A lot. Most of my adult life has been to a SD soundtrack, so self denial is not one of my strong points.My advice-Enjoy your life- I do.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 13:38:10 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, I don't want to shoot no one.
Jesus, going on this thing makes me sad. I'm all pumped up about seeing one show this year, and then you guys come in gloating about seeing them 4 times in 5 days. You're killing me! And I can't even see The Royal Scam show! Damn... this sucks. I don't think I can even show my face (well, posts) on this website ever again.
But here's a questions... how do some of you afford all these concerts?
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 13:04:15 ET
Posted by: CuriousZito,
Dear HUH
Please give us some examples how they try to get something for nothing
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 12:58:18 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Can't beleive it! Two nights in the MTL.Nov 28 29.That will make 4 shows in 5 nights! 2 in Toronto Nov 25 26 at Massey Hall,and 2 in my hometown 28 29!Does it get much better than this? The true north strong and free! Well not exactly free,cause this party is gonna cost me a bundle. But worth twice whatever I pay.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 12:48:03 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Yes, my dear Scouser, Steely Dan always acquit themselves admirably, whatever the setlist, wherever in the world they play, be it London, Paris or Berlin.
Are the devoted any different in Akron, Cincinnati, Indio CA, Minneapolis or Paduca KY? Not on your tintype, Nelly.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 12:42:13 ET
Posted by: Hey you, Huh
charming
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 12:00:19 ET
Posted by: HUH?, Reistertown, Maryland
Pixeleen, you are fucking stupid if you really think that Steely Dan doesn't recognize that there is interest in the mid-Atlantic states for concerts. Usually Steely Dan fans have some smarts.
Do you really think Donny and Walty go around saying, "Ewwww, I don't like playing there, the re's no fans around!" or "I don't like that theatre because the theater's walls are too pink."
The problem is that venues are oft run by concert industry types not willing to pay our guys fairly, Your toes would curl if you saw the contracts that are offered players.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 11:44:00 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @work
Schlemiel! Schlimazel! Hasenpfeffer Incorporated!
A hometown show!
KC
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 10:57:18 ET
Posted by: ABC, Dunhill
Rob,
The seller is clearly baiting the SD diehards. I wouldn't go there.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 09:12:59 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
WooHoo !!!!
DC, Baby !! Nov 22 & 23 !!!!!
Glad the powers that be finally realized that there are bunches of SD fans in the mid-Atlantic area !!!
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 08:08:30 ET
Posted by: Schotz, Brewery
I guess that means Milwaukee?
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 07:46:13 ET
Posted by: New SD mewsletter, in my inbox this A.M.
* Will there be any more dates?
We can only say this: The faithful, the curious, or friends of Lenny and Squiggy should definitely check http://steelydan.com on Wednesday.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 07:25:38 ET
Posted by: NYB, Re: Touring
I dunno, maybe Albert Clemens and Sarah Winchester were on to something...
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 06:57:07 ET
Posted by: Rob, USA
Has anyone seen that test pressing 45 on eBay that might be a few unreleased Steely Dan or Donald Fagen songs from the 1970s? Does anyone have an opinion? You can search eBay by typing in the following words in any order:
unknown test pressing 45
Date: Mon, September 28, 2009, 06:15:04 ET
Posted by: New dates,
Nov. 22 and 23 -- Washington, DC
Nov. 28 and 29 -- Montreal
Date: Sun, September 27, 2009, 22:07:33 ET
Posted by: Dif, Champaign
I believe "that tune" is New Frontier.
I know nothing of "animation techniques" however.
Date: Sun, September 27, 2009, 21:05:41 ET
Posted by: Brain Hemorrhager,
The latest Hemorrhager was:
" a non-audio (video in actuality...) type, and provides a chance to see just how good Young Wu or others really are.
There exists a tune in the Fagen Trilogy for which a video was made that utilizes a unique animation technique. Name that tune.
A BONUS point will be awarded to the first person to name that technique, even in the event that that individual does not name the tune."
You had to go back early into the Fagen Trilogy, back to the "Golden Ages" of MTV and VH1, when ACTUAL videos, many well-financed, high- quality thoughtful ones there were--to know that "New Frontier" not only portended a post-nuclear Armageddon, but was one of, if not THE first to utilize ROTOSCOPING in it's production. If you'll recall, various real-life scenes were converted at various junctures into the cartoon animation. In this respect New Frontier's, rotoscope production, although previously used in movies and television, mrked a "new" frontier in its revival as used for music videos. Several acts used the technique for their music videos later in the 1980's.
In a rare occurrence, we have TWO winners for this particular Hemorrhager. First with the corrct answer was the mysterious poster "My guess", who now with FOUR correct, receives 1.5 points for a Hemorrhager and also moves into second place, all time.
Lurker Ray of Zuma Beach also receives 1.5 points, by getting the second part of the Hemorrhager, correctly naming the animation technique.
Date: Sun, September 27, 2009, 15:59:24 ET
Posted by: G to the J, Jetson Records Inc.
A few years back I was shocked to find that B.B. King was doing like 175 dates a year or something like that! I mean this man was a touring MACHINE at the age of like 78 or whatever. So I was just thinking about it and decided to see what he's up to right now. Here's what he's up to right now at the age of 84 years old...
http://www.bbking.com/events/
If BB can put up all those dates at his age, how much longer will this band be on the road?
And yeah you're right, it's CRIMINAL how the current technology lets the hard work of musicians and songwriters be outright ripped off without any compensation whatsoever. The industry really needs to do something about it immediately. You shouldn't be able to buy albums or cd's anymore. You should pay for the rights to download and listen to the music for a year. The audio industry should standardize all audioplayers to require a downloadable algorithmic key from the music distributor. Without that key, the audioplayer won't be able to descramble the audio in order to play the songs. I mean hey, we do it for satellite television don't we? Why not for music distribution?
I mean it's insane... Tell me one other industry that allows their product to ripped off with absolutely no repercussions for thieves? Can you just walk into a car dealer and drive off with a car without paying for it??? Something needs to be done, and it needs to be done like NOW!
Date: Sun, September 27, 2009, 12:20:28 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Punishing the monkey
Quick concert question... is there an opening band for the speical setlist nights?
Date: Sun, September 27, 2009, 12:12:46 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Goddammit/ they do what they do because it is what they do/ does any of us have the space to say fuck it/ i need time to think? I have to get up every day even when it is hard to face the day; you guys are making me nuts second guessing Steely Dans motives. They are in the buisness of making money/ so are the rest of us. When you can work the saxophone as well as Don and Walt post.
Date: Sun, September 27, 2009, 11:58:15 ET
Posted by: Jane, His Wife
Jetson Miracleworks.
The reason they tour like crazy 30 years later is that records and music publishing aren't where it's at anymore in terms of bringing in the bucks. On top of that, they are making hay while the sun shines, before they end up with acid reflux like Levon Helm, or worse.
They are touring now because it's all about their retirement fund. Back in 1980, or even 2001, they weren't really thinking about that.
Did anyone really expect Donald not to play Black Friday when he guested with Levon Helm?
Date: Sun, September 27, 2009, 09:25:36 ET
Posted by: Jetson Miracleworks, avaliable at the will-call window
So far Steely Dan is set to play 65 shows between June and the end of November (including 12 dates in Europe). That works out to one show every 2.3 days for 5 months...
Who ever thought you would see this day come back in 1980?
Date: Sun, September 27, 2009, 08:31:50 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Right on Scouser/ These guys we love are artists' who the hell tells a painter what to paint or a poet what to write? Leave it to the masters and they will continue to entertain us as they have for forty years. It is there job and they do it very well. The reason we all love the Dan is because everything is well thought out/ they are not a bar band winging it every nite' these guys are pros and we are proud to be fans. It always occurs to me that Don and Walt dont give two shits what we think anyway. God bless Steely Dan and I hope we are still seeing these masters 20 years from now.
Date: Sun, September 27, 2009, 03:50:12 ET
Posted by: Scouser, Halewood to Hollywood
Rajah,
The criticisms of their setlists this year are unfair. They have indeed been as good as their word and reached out and tackled many more songs from their catalogue. This band, which came back out to us now 16 years ago has changed and grown. Yes, and gotten older. They make their living now by performing and they do it well. Oh how we'll miss them when they're gone. Let's not be ungrateful. Play it again, Peg...
I love you Raj!
The crap that folks post on this site never fails to make me smile .
1. Read the read me file....
2. The guys who put this bad ass catalogue down can pick any Fking set list they like .
3. Learn to play this music live and then open ya pie hole!
4. Sorry to be so crude but you guys make me mad...
All the best from west on sunset ...
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 21:25:36 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Steelysobernow...Great tip on the Massey Hall interactive seat plan. More venues should have this feature.Really gives you an idea of what to expect if you are coming from out of town.
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 19:02:38 ET
Posted by: Scam Fan, philly
Hey Dave From Dayton --
Don't change your tickets yet.
Your radio buddy needs to check his or her source.
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 17:32:11 ET
Posted by: Something's Fishy, out there
If the two previous posts are accurate, it means shows on 5 consecutive nights.
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 17:19:38 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
NYB,
Thanks for the Levon/Don report.
You said, "If last nights show proves anything it proves that it's okay for DF to do a cover song once in a while during a Steely Dan show."
SD did three covers the last show I was at (Intro, Supremes, Outro). I know Don didn't sing on any of them. He did sing a couple of covers in his Donald Fagen Band tour, though.
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 16:16:52 ET
Posted by: An Old Friend, Close Enough To Know
While attending a Snow Patrol show last night at DAR Constitution Hall in Washington DC, my wife pointed to a video screen behind me that was displaying images of upcoming shows and said..."Oh look honey...Steely Dan...Are we going?"
These shows are not on their website yet...
http://www.dar.org/conthall/schedule.cfm?ID=11&YR=2009
but rest assured, they are being promoted...I tried to buy tickets at the box office but was told they don't go on sale until 10/2...
You heard it here first:
Steely Dan
DAR Constitution Hall
1776 D. Street NW Washington DC
Sunday November 22nd
Monday November 23rd
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 14:31:34 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
What is "Rotoscope" Alex?
Young Wu, "What was the name of
the very first Steely Dan Bootleg?"
I also believe "TG's" uses some
"Stop-Action".
Thanks for all the reports from the
Ramble. Really wish I could be
there this weekend. Too bad it
was such short notice to travel
in from the West Coast.
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 13:34:23 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, roflmao
Hey get your facts straight...it's Royal Scum (plus)!!
This is even better than the No Parking signs around the Beacon when Stealy Dan played there this summer.
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 12:53:02 ET
Posted by: Steelysobernow, Steel City Canada
Sorry about the drunken posts last night. What I was trying to say was there really are no bad seats at Massey Hall. I'm more than happy with my seats in the gallery!
Young Wu, did you check out the interactive seating map? It gives you shots of the view you can expect from your section.
http://www.masseyhall.com/seatingMap/seatingPlans.cfm
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 11:37:43 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, oh
Brain/ Tamales girl?
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 11:31:09 ET
Posted by: Abe, up
The song doesn't rhyme, so you can get away scum.
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 10:26:27 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
on donaldfagen.com, the SD tour dates are listed, and all the Royal Scam nites are listed as Royal SCUM....I kid you not...
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 09:45:30 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Listening to the new Mark Knopfler album.
Don Patrol... I am not going to the show on the 26th. It's too bad, because my all time favorite album is The Royal Scam. But I've got Thanksgiving and family and all that jazz going on that day, so no dice.
Oh well, I've said it before, but I didn't think I was going at all this year, so hearing Peg and Aja AGAIN 4 years in a row... couldn't be happier.
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 08:56:28 ET
Posted by: NYB, spellcheck
Did I say "Worn-torn"? I mean "War-torn"...
Dude I'm tired, I just got home K?
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 08:51:53 ET
Posted by: NYB, Mogadishu, CT
If last nights show proves anything it proves that it's okay for DF to do a cover song once in a while during a Steely Dan show. His deliverance of Dylan's "I Shall Be Released" was a perfect fit for him. The girls harmonized exceptionally well together. The guitarists were quite good (not Bill but not bad!), and horn section was... I dunno... they did this New Orleans strut around the stage thing that made the house a bit unruly... I believe there's a law against that in Connecticut isn't there?
Just having Levon Helm there was worth the ticket price alone. He hit the skins for a while and even played mandolin on a couple of songs. Gotta love Levon... Ever see that movie "Shooter"? Dude, GOTTA see the movie "Shooter" okay? GOTTA!
I would say the only bad part about the show was were it was at; Bridgeport, Connecticut... Or shall I say the worn-torn streets of Mogadishu? Oh, I already said that? Okay, you get the point.
The thing that made this show special was hearing Donald Fagen do a few songs that are NOT on the Steely Dan setlist. If that's what you're waiting to hear then I wouldn't miss the show in Utica because who knows when Donald Fagen will fill in for Levon Helm again, if ever.
P.S.) Who's the other singer in the Levon Helm Band? Teresa Williams? Pretty girl!
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 02:51:20 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
B. Paulson: I would bet that backing vocal on Stone Piano is Walter.
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 02:34:41 ET
Posted by: JoeM, Bpt, CT
Brief brain dump... I'm leaving a lot out.
The highlights...
Great show tonight.
Levon could not sing, unfortunately. His Doctor refused to allow it. He was his usual wonderful self on drums and mandolin though. I just love this guy's musical taste, chops and acumen. Amy was radiant and soulful, as always, all night. Just great talents, the two of them.
Mr. Fagen kicked in on several verses of The Band's "The Weight". What a show stopper this was. Fagen was the consummate session man all night. Switching between piano and Hammond B3 and filling in on backing and lead vocals as needed.
The one completely "Dan" related moment came about half way through the proceedings when the band leaned into a bluesy and somewhat laid back “Black Friday”. Awesome.
“Tennessee Jed” was a highlight, even without Levon at the Helm… Sorry…
Great, great renditions of “The Shape I’m in” and “It Makes No Difference” the latter of which literally brought tears to my eyes…
Fagen belted out an incredible heartfelt rendition of Dylan's "I Shall Be Released" to end the evening's festivities. Simply astounding.
All in all a great night. Carole and I will remember this one for a very long time. Especially it being right in our own back yard.
Joe
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 02:21:05 ET
Posted by: Steelydrunk, SteelCity/Canada
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 02:15:23 ET
Posted by: Steelcity, very drunk
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 02:03:30 ET
Posted by: SteelCity, Candad
Date: Sat, September 26, 2009, 00:37:52 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Young Wu,Did you get tix for the 26th show?
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 23:28:41 ET
Posted by: My (2nd) Guess, homw
New Frontier - Techniques involving Live action/animation.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 23:19:43 ET
Posted by: My Guess, home
New Frontier - Computer Animation
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 22:18:57 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl, not in Bridgeport
Did anybody go to the Levon show tonight? I'm dying to hear about it, I was very tempted to go but it's 3 hours away and I have to work at 7am tomorrow. I hate being a grownup.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 21:59:57 ET
Posted by: almost gothic negative girl, monterey
stop motion animation?
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 21:51:32 ET
Posted by: almost gothic negative girl, monterey
snowbound?
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 21:07:11 ET
Posted by: Brain Hemorrhager,
Tonight's Hemorrhager is a non-audio (video in actuality...) type, and provides a chance to see just how good Young Wu or others really are.
There exists a tune in the Fagen Trilogy for which a video was made that utilizes a unique animation technique. Name that tune.
A BONUS point will be awarded to the first person to name that technique, even in the event that that individual does not name the tune.
Diffculty level is about 7.5 to 8 out of 10.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 20:27:58 ET
Posted by: B. Paulson,
Does anyone know if Walter's vocals can be heard on any of the
very early pre-CBAT demos?
If so, which ones?
Is that WB singing harmony on "Stone Piano" for instance?
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 19:31:37 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Hutch, Fife, etc::
Count me in among those who are hoping that SD will manage to have a show somewhere in the mid-Atlantic area this fall !!!!
Chicago was great but would love to see them again closer to home.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 19:24:25 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Every lyric, every unreleased song, every story behind it?
What a freak, Young Wu.
Me too.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 19:02:55 ET
Posted by: Young Wu,
How old?
Hey, Nineteen.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 18:30:30 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Just curious/ how the hell of a young Wu are you? It took me 50 years to learn all that shit. Klaus
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 18:21:59 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, 61 days and counting!
"Start listening to the music now so you acclimate and it wont overload your young heart."
Oh, I wouldn't worry about that. I know just as much as any veteran on the blue. Every lyric, every unreleased song, every story behind it.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 18:02:19 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Young Wu/ Ive seen them expensive'fairly cheap;in rain and shine and it has always been worth it.Start listening to the music now so you acclimate and it wont overload your young heart. And no matter how many piasters you have to borrow you will return again and again. Speaking of returning I went to Det a few weeks ago and now Akron!! Just a thought/ when Don and Walt do decide to call it a day they ought to throw one last show for the Blue faithful. They could access the Emails from Hoops and have one last wing ding. Hoops could MC and maybe Baby Joey could do some stand up before the show. Just a thought but a nice one [minus the Joey part]. See you there Little Wild One!!
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 15:25:20 ET
Posted by: Chip, Cuyahoga Falls
Akron, EJ Thomas what a great venue whoever called that on great job.Saw them in Detroit thought that was the last show. Plus Royal Scam night. Can't wait!
Chip
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 14:59:18 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Still pumped...
Correction:
"And right now there isn't anything good left unless you want to spend 150 bucks. And even those tickets aren't great."
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 14:55:37 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, November 25th, Toronto, baby!!!!!!
Wow, I am sooo pumped... I was expecting that I wouldn't be able to see them this year.
The tickets went fast. And right now there isn't anything good left unless you want to spend 15 bucks.
I spent about 80 bucks each for the tickets. I doubt they are all that good, but it's such a small venue that even the worst seats won't be horrible.
Seat location: section RCG, row F, seats 83-85
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 13:36:10 ET
Posted by: wb, looney toons
Warner's capacity is only 1600. Well below the range they've been playing.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 13:27:51 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, eh
Well the Warner theater is a live nation venue and it looks like they have dates after Nov.25 it would be nice......
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 11:54:13 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Just got tix for both nights at Massey.Young Wu you're right, they were going real fast.After 12 mins all I could get was balcony for 25th, but for 26th I got 12th row floor.Can't wait.No border issues for this show!
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 11:01:00 ET
Posted by: Steel Town, USA
The Pittsburgh info might be floating around out there. The official site appears to have been updated with the Akron info only after it was posted here. Since Beaubo was 85% accurate with the Akron info, I'm taking his word.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 10:36:06 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland
my guess for next tour update announcement...Pittsburgh
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 09:27:52 ET
Posted by: DC-8 9 10, home
MSG is looking to open a venue in the DC area.
http://washington.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2009/08/10/daily38.html
If that happens, they will get the same multi-night stands the other markets are getting.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 08:29:40 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
ccw - I'm with you. They skipped DC and Va.Beach the last two years in a row. Up until two years ago they played Manassas and Va.Beach EVERY SINGLE YEAR!
How about they do a three night stand at the Warner Theatre?
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 08:28:54 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
Hopefully there are still dates to fill, but no shows in Texas in either Dallas or Houston, particularly in light of some second tier, outlying markets they are playing. These are the 4th and 6th largest MSA's in the US. Every other top 10 MSA in the US got a SD show this year. Are we geograhpically undesriable? Come on guys, the October/November weather down here is wonderful and the economy hasn't been to bad here either.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 07:04:20 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Looks like Larry Carlton will not be joining SD for the autumn shows.
Most of October and November, he will be touring in Japan and Europe.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 04:29:07 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, the Diminishing Marginal Utility Room
A tentative UK perspective - SD's 'best known' songs : 'All Around My Hat' and 'Gaudete'.
Yes, it's still true that any mention of the Dan ('what's your favourite band then?') in the UK tends to elicit either a blank look, or a slightly bemused reference to the two hits of 'Steeleye Span', briefly popular Brit-folkies of the 70s. I do occasionally get a mention of 'Haitian Divorce', which somehow reached 17 in the 'hit parade' in '76, an anomaly probably due to it's gaining recognition from one or two discerning DJs on BBC Radio One, but the fact is that SD has never really had any airplay over here, and the band are still largely unknown - a situation that I have to say generally delights rather than saddens this particular fan. The only album to break into the top ten is 'Aja' (no. 5), with 'Gaucho' making no. 27, EMG 21, and Scam and 2vN briefly reaching the dizzy heights of 11.
Bands that I've played drums for over the years have occasionally tried out SD tunes (Rikki, Night by Night, Peg), only gaining any positive reaction from the odd muso in the crowd, so have dropped the songs after a few plays.
The result,IMO, is that there are very few 'casual fans' here - you've either never heard of SD, or you are a devotee - a fact seemingly confirmed at the London gigs I've attended since '96, where the response from all areas of the crowd has been remarkable, particularly at Hammersmith Odeon in 2000, '07 and '09.
As for setlists - am I bothered ? Not really - as others have said, just seeing the two of them stroll onstage, fronting the best of all possible ensembles, instantly dissipates any desire I may have to hear my particular favourites, and a more than satisfactory evening always ensues. Sure, I know what non-surprises are coming up, but no complaints from me when at Hammersmith '09 we got a reworked Reelin', Bad Sneakers, Parker's Band, Glamour Profession, and then the ultimate glittering prize of Elliot Randall on Reelin '72 !
The Aja, Scam, Gaucho and request nights (with Larry Carlton's guest spots) have been a hugely interesting excursion, actually made even more interesting by intimations of what D and W 'enjoy' and 'don't enjoy' playing.
These guys can still surprise us, but always entertain us, and I for one will be there next time.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 00:27:44 ET
Posted by: Muswellbrook Mauler, Up Bush
My Rival and True Companion - two of my faves. Peoples are thick like brick.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2009, 00:14:24 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
Reagrding this discussion about what the < 1% of Danfans want to hear (i.e fans who hang out in forums like us) versus the majority of other fans, this is all a repeat of what myself and others have posted again and again, including discussion on and around a month ago on August 26. This is like re-runs.
Yes, 95% or more--almost all of my family in non-Dan friends in fact--want to hear Do It Again, Reelin' and Rikki. They don't want to hear the solo stuff, they don't want to hear the new stuff. Most don't know or care what the clever lyrics are about. It's a nostalgia trip. Tored of it, don't go.
(For those of you who complained that SD didn't play things they didn't like to play at internet request night, I reply that they played Rikki.)
In fact, I hear from those casual fans--the vast majority--asking about attending shows, "Do you think Skunk Baxter will show up?" I have a family member who won't go to a Steely Dan show unless it is guaranteed that they will play those three songs I list above. Yes, they can't pay for the tour unless they cater to the vast majority of people who want to hear the hits. And when they played "My Rival" at the two Gaucho shows I caught, it was major potty exodus time. Ditto for True Companion in 93.
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 23:58:33 ET
Posted by: Benny, NY
Buttons, this transpired in the lobby before a Royal Scam show this summer.
Dude to his girlfriend: I hope they open with Rikki Don't lose that Number.
Me to dude: They are opening with the Royal Scam album. Playing the whole thing.
Dude: Hmmm. I don't think I have that one.
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 23:45:54 ET
Posted by: Red Buttons, face in the crowd
I think some of you are missing the point and the rest of you are in denial.
The average Steely Dan concertgoer isn't a hardcore fan. They remember The Dan from back in the day, but they don't own every single album they ever released. They don't know any of the songs on Two Against Nature, they never heard Everything Must Go, they have no idea Walter Becker ever released a CD of his own, they're completely in the dark over Morph The Cat, they have no idea if Fagen and Becker are married or not, they've never heard of Roger Nichols or Elliot Scheiner, the name "Bernard Purdy" doesn't ring a bell with them, they know the name "Larry Carlton" but they don't know why, they couldn't tell you the story behind the cover art on "Katy Lied" (and if you asked them to they'd look at you like the RCA Dog), in other words... THESE PEOPLE AREN'T YOU!
The setlist the band uses must account for the above reality... They have very little choice in the matter really. I'm sure if you asked Fagen and Becker what they would PREFER to play in concert they'd probably whip out a list of Jazz tunes from the 50's and 60's that positively NONE of the ticketbuying public would recognize and would walk out of the concert griping that they got ripped off. This is the curse of success in the music business... YOU ARE WHAT THE RECORD SAYS YOU ARE! It's a blessing that the fans want to hear the hits, but it's a curse that it's ALL they want to hear...
The setlist is the setlist because the setlist is recognizable to the CASUAL FAN, who account for 92 percent of everyone buying the tickets. This may be annoying to the hardcore fans out there, but it's also what keeps the artists employed and able to develop new music for YOU the hardcore fans. So it is what it is, as it is what it is for ALL SUCCESSFUL SONGWRITERS AND PERFORMERS, not just Steely Dan.
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 23:11:11 ET
Posted by: Sorry, Akron
I always thought that the Congo Free State was the rubber capital of the world. Look it up if you thought this year's Brussels show was just charming.
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 23:03:39 ET
Posted by: Akron, Rules
Akron is a city with a great history if you're interested in
* Tires
* Blimps
* Bowling
* Soap Box Derby racing
* The origins of AA
As it's the rubber capital of the world, SD will be offering divergent philosophies on rubber use with Aja (throw out the hardware) and Royal Scam (never gonna do it without.)
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 22:59:48 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Red Buttons:
I think you hit the nail on the head. The majority of core posters here have seen SD many many times since 1993. I actually think that it's only a relative few of them that truly complain about the setlist and boycott it or else they wouldn't have seen them so many times. I consider myself a hardcore fan, and I've only had the opportunity to see them 4 times, once for the past 4 years. That means I've seen Josie 4 times, which is nothing for the majority of people here, but I don't care if I ever hear Josie again even after only 4 true live renditions. And that's a pretty a good song too. But that doesn't mean that I will refuse to see Steely Dan because I know they are going to play Josie. Personally, I don't think that's the outlook people should have. No one has to agree with me, but maybe the best outlook is to go to the concert hoping to hear slightly "different" Josie, even a subtle difference. Besides, the setlist is not what the concert is about, it's about the memories you associate with it. After 4 shows, I still get chills seeing Becker and Fagen walk on the stage.
Of course, it's very understandable if someone doesn't want to spend the money on something they've seen before, despite the fact that each show can invoke a different set of (hopefully positive) memories. I'm not going to go out and see every single Steely Dan show on tour (and I can't afford it either of course). But the majority of people, even some hardcore fans, are only spending the money to see them once or twice anyway.
SS:
What you said about those "everyone knows them" songs provides a good transition into something I've been thinking about lately, mainly because of the Internet Request Night sets. What are Steely Dan's 20 most popular songs, specifically from the 52 song voting list? (That means Time Out of Mind, Third World Man, IGY and others are not eligible, although people can bring them into the discussion if they want). Here are some I definitely think would be on there (in chronological order):
- Do It Again
- Dirty Work
- Reelin' in the Years
- Bodhisattva
- My Old School
- Rikki Don't Lose that Number
- Pretzel Logic
- Black Friday
- Bad Sneakers
- Kid Charlemagne
- Black Cow
- Aja
- Deacon Blues
- Peg
- Josie
- Babylon Sisters
- Hey Nineteen
That's 17 songs. I hope this sparks a nice discussion, as I'm curious about other people's opinions on this subject. It might be different for a lot of people because of a few reasons. One is the fact that a lot of people associate popularity with radio airplay but radio differs locally. Obviously Do It Again and other obviously popular songs get played a lot but hypothetically Kings could get good airplay in one market and Glamour Profession in
another. Another reason is that people often can associate what's most popular with the album they listen to the most. I don't think this will be an issue here but some people might have only actually bought one or two albums. For example, I know someone who only had The Royal Scam growing up, so he might look at Don't Take Me Alive as a more popular song than Black Cow because he listened to Don't Take Me Alive more.
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 22:39:38 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Joe M - Thanks. That's what I was hoping you were going to say.
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 21:42:44 ET
Posted by: JoeM,
JJ,
It's really good...
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 20:37:14 ET
Posted by: beaubo, cleveland
Akron is 40-45 min from Cleveland, 20 min from Canton and 30 min from Youngstown, so good metro area to pull from.
EJ Thomas Hall is a fantastic venue in terms of acoustics and sightlines. Also, rent and labor are likely far cheaper than playing State Theatre or Music Hall in downtown Cleveland. Plus, secondary markets like Akron tend to be have a receptive audience drawing power since fewer acts play those parts in general...think Durham, St. Augustine on first leg. I also think Cleveland was not chosen because there is a big theatre production at Playhoouse Square.
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 20:26:03 ET
Posted by: ccw, dc
Somebody please reveal that the open dates after the Philly shows will be used for DC or Baltimore shows. We must be the only metropolitan area in the U.S. the Dan hasn't played or announced dates for this year. (Akron?)
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 19:34:48 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Nov. 25th, baby!!
Red Buttons... I only go to one a year, but I would consider myself a 100% die hard fan.
I doubt most casual fans will go see them year after year after year. I think hearing Peg and Hey Nineteen once is enough for them.
Anyway, I am extremely nervous about buying these tickets tomorrow morning. Massey Hall only has 2,800 seats or so, and I think they are gonna go fast.
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 19:29:20 ET
Posted by: SS, Minnow
Buttons,
I feel that they have six "everybody knows" songs.
Do It Again
Reelin'
Rikki
Peg
Deacon Blues
Hey Nineteen
If what you're saying is true we'd have all of these at every show, every tour. But in fact, a lot of concert reviews note that they forgo a lot of their best known songs.
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 19:16:21 ET
Posted by: Bon, Top of the World
why would The Dan play back water places like Akron and Cinn? They could have stayed west and played San Diego, Dallas, Houston or more nights in Vegas.
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 18:46:03 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Joe M. - "Levon's "Tennessee Jed" is just ludicrous". Would you care to explain?
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 18:33:44 ET
Posted by: Red Buttons, key word is "survival"
Re: The Setlist
The reason you feel the setlist is repetitive is because you are not the average fan... The average person who attends a Steely Dan concert attends just one a year, they don't go to show after show, nor do they come to this website to find out what songs were played at the next show or the one prior. Most fans of any band you want to choose are not hardcore, they're casual, and the casual fans want to hear the hits, not the lesser known stuff, because they won't get it... They want to hear "Josie" and "Aja" and songs like that because those were the songs you heard alot of on 70's and 80's radio. Maybe the only mistake they're making is not doing more songs from the first two albums... that's a glaring mistake, but the rest of the songs they do are basically dictated by the casual concertgoers themselves, not the band. At the end of the day it's a show... and the average ticketholder has to leave the show feeling like they got what they came for. There's a science to deciding what songs get played, and in a lot ot cases the songwriters and musicians have little say about it. Ask any songwriter whether they're tired of playing their hits and I'm sure most will tell you they are but it's what the fans want to hear so...
James Taylor must play "Fire and Rain" if he wants his fans to be satisfied. Whether he wants to play it or not is irrelevant.
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 18:21:03 ET
Posted by: Rajah, Dimishing Marginal Utility
DB16 - I think you just coined the perfect title of Steely Dan's 10th album, I haven't heard that term since Economics about 30 years ago. I think we're now officially witnessing Steely Dan 5.0.
Steely Dan I - Can't Buy a Thrill, Countdown to Ecstasy
Steely Dan II - Pretzel Logic, Katy Lied
Steely Dan III - Royal Scam, Aja, Gaucho
Long pause...
Steely Dan IV - the return to the live stage followed by TvN and EMG
Steely Dan V - the neverending tour
We await the next phase that hopefully will thwart the Diminishing Marginal Utility theory.
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 16:24:47 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
update
Nov 16 - Akron OH - EJ Thomas | Aja (Plus) | AMEX presale 9/29 - general on sale 10/2
Nov 17 - Akron OH - EJ Thomas | The Royal Scam (Plus) | AMEX presale 9/29 - general on sale 10/2
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 15:16:41 ET
Posted by: JoeM, Bridgeport, CT
Should be a great show in Bridgeport, CT featuring Mr. Helm and Mr. Fagen tomorrow night! Can't wait. Sounds like Fagen may be doing a good deal of the vocals because of Levon's recent voice issues - due to acid reflux - not cancer - thankfully...
Saw Fagen with Amy Helm's band up in the Woodstock, NY area a few years back. That was a great venue and a great show. Hoping for the same here.
Should be a barn burner. Levon's "Tennessee Jed" is just ludicrous.
Joe
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 15:12:19 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
My setlist example was more about the length of the setlist, but I can talk about the variation of them as well. As Rajah mentioned, they have gradually added more songs since 1993. In fact, I posted a few weeks ago a list of all the songs they have played from their "official" 82 Steely Dan songs. Out of 82, they have only not played 18 songs. And they have played songs from the Nightfly, Kamakiriad, and 11 Tracks of Whack albeit not recently from the latter two. Would it be nice to hear some of those 18 songs? Yes but some for novelty purposes. I'll take Josie over Turn that Heartbeat Over Again 75% of the time, and I'm pretty sick of Josie. Would be nice to hear rarer tunes like The Second Arrangement, Junkie Girl and Sail the Waterway? Of course but even if they did play those songs, they would still have to play a good amount of hits. In other words, let's say there was a set that featured Yellow Peril, Kulee Baba, This All Too Mobile Home, Dallas, Mister Sam, Walk Between the Raindrops, Change of the Guard, Through with Buzz, Roaring of the Lamb, Your Gold Teeth II, Downtown Canon, Negative Girl, and The Great Pagoda of Funn, they would still play Josie, Peg, Kid Charlemagne, Hey Nineteen, Black Friday, Aja, and My Old School. I realize that this would be a preferable setlist for some even with the "usual suspects" at the end, but why in the world would they even think to play most of those songs? Even excluding the big hits, they play songs that 90% of fans would rather hear than the ones I provided.
It's understandable that you might not want to see them after seeing the same thing many times; it's called diminishing marginal utility. But like Rajah said, some of us just appreciate the fact that they are touring despite the relative repetitive nature of the setlist.
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 13:46:48 ET
Posted by: George Jetson, set the controls for the heart of the sun
Pixxy,
Hmm... I think I gotta be there for that don't I?
Don't I?
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 13:14:11 ET
Posted by: beaubo, cleveland
akron...vindicated!! ;)
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 13:08:33 ET
Posted by: Steely Fan, NJ
http://www.ejthomashall.com/eventsearch/event_detail.php?id=805
http://www.ejthomashall.com/eventsearch/event_detail.php?id=808
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 12:01:43 ET
Posted by: pixeleen, rambling with Levon
Donald Fagen will be the "special guest" with The Levon Helm Band this weekend:
Sept. 25 Klein Memorial Auditorium, Bridgeport, CT
Sept. 26 Stanley Theater, Utica, NY
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 10:41:06 ET
Posted by: Hear, Me
Setlist example makes my point...who wouldn't want to hear some of those obscurities after so many years of those My Old School-type setlists?...(yeah, throw is a hastily rehearsed version of Wu to profess that there's something new, just to throw-off the critics). Nah, I'm NOT going to miss this touring band as I've seen them dance before...and before...and before...and before...capice, Raj?
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 10:26:29 ET
Posted by: Just, Askin'
Any speculation as to how they will fill in the dates between Philly and Toronto?
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 09:59:25 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
The criticisms of their setlists this year are unfair. They have indeed been as good as their word and reached out and tackled many more songs from their catalogue. This band, which came back out to us now 16 years ago has changed and grown. Yes, and gotten older. They make their living now by performing and they do it well. Oh how we'll miss them when they're gone. Let's not be ungrateful. Play it again, Peg...
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2009, 09:21:52 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
I think there is a bit of a misconception about the amount of songs they are playing. In 2006 and 2007, the setlist was a bit shorter but not in '08 and '09. In reality, they are playing approximately the same amount of songs that they were in '93 and '94 etc, even without an intermission. Sure, there were several early shows that had a larger amount of Becker/Fagen solo stuff than those shows normally had, but overall, there were less. Anyway, here's an example:
1994 Setlist from Irvine, CA:
1. True Companion (Intro)
2. Aja
3. Reelin' in the Years
4. Josie
5. Hey Nineteen
6. Down in the Bottom
7. Sign in Stranger
8. Peg/Band Intros
9. Babylon Sisters
10. Black Friday
-Intermission-
11. The Royal Scam-Parker's Band-The Fez Intstrumental Intro
12. Green Earrings
13. Bodhisattva
14. Deacon Blues
15. Tomorrow's Girls
16. Hard Up Case
17. Chain Lightning
18. Third World Man
19. Kid Charlemagne
20. My Old School (Encore)
21. FM (Encore)
vs.
Durham, NC 2009 (1st show of the year)
1. Teenie's Blues (Intro)
2. Reelin' in the Years Club Mix
3. Time Out of Mind
4. Godwhacker
5. Bad Sneakers
6. Black Friday
7. Aja
8. My Rival
9. Hey Nineteen
10. Parker's Band
11. Babylon Sisters
12. Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More
13. Here at the Western World
14. Home At Last
15. Love is Like An Itchin' in My Heart/Band Intros
16. Peg
17. Josie
18. Kid Charlemagne
19. Black Cow (Encore)
20. My Old School (Encore)
21. Last Tango in Paris (Outro)
So, same exact amount of songs even without an intermission. Yes, I realize that 3 of those songs aren't Steely Dan/Becker/Fagen tunes, but at least it's something different, right? In addition, some of the sets this year were longer than 21 songs, including the Aja show in Boston, which was 24 songs.
To me, that looks like a misconception.
Date: Wed, September 23, 2009, 22:07:34 ET
Posted by: $$, outskirts of Philly
Actually Doc "Golden Circle"seating at the Tower is $125.00
Date: Wed, September 23, 2009, 19:22:37 ET
Posted by: Hear, Me
Got to agree with Here Me. The tunes are repetitive, the players are capable but have no pedigree, the setlist (just one) is short, the vibe is corporate, the stank is thick, the new releases are non-existent, etc.
BTW, I really got behind the recent discussion regarding the "small size of venue makes me sorry the boys have to play so many dates" discussion. They played a 15,000 seat shed in my locale for one night and put on a repeat of last year's show (which was a repeat of the previous year's show)....(which was a repeat of the previous year's show)...(which was a repeat of the previous year's show)...(which was a repeat of the previous year's show)...(which was a repeat of the previous year's show). Yeah, rent party (he he).
Nah, think I'll spend that rent money to go see a band that likes to evolve their live performance more than once every 10 years. How 'bout we make the second leg of this tour the "Retirement Party".
Date: Wed, September 23, 2009, 18:28:45 ET
Posted by: Mme. Erzulie, leaving a nasty bite
The Kardashians, classy? Really? God help us.
Mme. E
Date: Wed, September 23, 2009, 13:58:35 ET
Posted by: web search, k
Michael & Boz resurrected the NYR&S Revue at Foxwoods, performing Drowning in the Sea of Love together.
http://www.thesunchronicle.com/articles/2009/09/19/go/6126430.txt
Date: Wed, September 23, 2009, 13:33:13 ET
Posted by: Me , Here
Let's see...
Twice as much for a ticket in 2009 for half the show I got in 1993?
No thanks and never again...
Date: Wed, September 23, 2009, 11:50:22 ET
Posted by: Lonnie THE Kingpin, Here, there . . . Everywhere
Hello one and all ~~
Lonnie is here to report that Steely Dan has officially released a statement that goes something like this:
"For $255, the members of the Ladies' Choir will give lap dances to anyone in the first 10 rows of the Turkey Day gig. Of course, the ladies will do this with yams and drumsticks in their hands . . . so you may want to think twice about sitting in the first 10 rows."
I'm just the messenger.
LTK (of '65)
Date: Wed, September 23, 2009, 09:26:15 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
top price for tix at the Tower are $95...radio station FM 98.1 WOGL is giving away pairs of tix this week...tons of commercials for the SD shows on radio here in Philly...
viva El Kingpin!
Date: Tues, September 22, 2009, 22:08:23 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, .
Kingpin... if I could I would, but if I left on Thanksgiving to go to Toronto to see a band, I would risk excommunication from my family. And yes, I could take them all, but they don't really like the Dan that much and I don't want to pay for 22+ people.
I will probably be there on for Aja, though, which is still awesome!
Date: Tues, September 22, 2009, 18:59:00 ET
Posted by: Sleazy Broker, Around for the house
Lonnie baby... for $255 bucks those backup singers better be givin' lap dances!
Date: Tues, September 22, 2009, 18:58:58 ET
Posted by: Sleazy Broker, Around for the house
Lonnie baby... for $255 bucks those backup singers better be givin' lap dances!
Date: Tues, September 22, 2009, 18:58:54 ET
Posted by: Sleazy Broker, Around for the house
Lonnie baby... for $255 bucks those backup singers better be givin' lap dances!
Date: Tues, September 22, 2009, 18:54:17 ET
Posted by: Lonnie The Kingpin, Here
Young Wu -
Take it from the Kingpin, step away from the Turkey Day vittles, fire up the family truckster and GO SEE THE DAN! This band is smokin' hot, if ya know what I mean. Plus, you will save yourself a lot of calories and a few extra pounds. What a deal it is. In fact, Steely Dan is proven to be good for your health. Just ask the Surgeon General and Mr. LaPage.
L T K
Date: Tues, September 22, 2009, 18:45:44 ET
Posted by: Gnu Trino, no charge
I don't get it "Crash", what's to celebrate?
Date: Tues, September 22, 2009, 18:38:37 ET
Posted by: crashing the backboard, west of
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/22/khloe.kardashian.wedding/index.html
Date: Tues, September 22, 2009, 18:07:32 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, Waiting for the boys
Thanks for the input Hoops. I figured that had something to do with it. Still, $255 is alot right now. I spent just over for 2 seats each night. Floor seats for 2 would have been $560, and only for one night.
Maybe I'll get to hear Dr Wu on Internet Request Night.
Date: Tues, September 22, 2009, 13:39:20 ET
Posted by: Your Ad, Here
I've been getting a lot of (Steely Dan) context sensitive ads for the latest Wayne Krantz release.
http://www.abstractlogix.com/xcart/product.php?productid=24272
Date: Tues, September 22, 2009, 12:31:49 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @work
Young Wu - Just take the whole family with you. Problem solved.
KC
Date: Tues, September 22, 2009, 11:51:14 ET
Posted by: GJ, Astro-nomy
Let's get something straight... STEELY DAN IS A ROCK BAND. Steely Dan does NOT represent a refuge for Jazzbo castaways of all sorts, STEELY DAN IS A ROCK BAND! Keith Jarrett can go fuck himself because... STEELY DAN IS A ROCK BAND!
I dunno, maybe I'm not making myself clear on this...
JAZZ GROUP NO! ROCK BAND YES!
Okay???
Date: Tues, September 22, 2009, 06:44:25 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Of course I remember what Chuck said. He was funny in his own sort of deficient way. You, well, not so much. Keep trying, scooter...
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 23:42:24 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
I've been going to see a band on Thanksgiving for years - the Funk FIlharmonik on Funksgiving.
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 21:30:07 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Talkin' turkey.
That sounds nice, but I would have to leave at 5:30 or 6:00 at the latest, and there is no way I could abandon the extended family that comes over that day to hear "Caves of Altamira" live, as much as I would want to. I doubt I'd be welcomed home after that.
Oh well, just wednesday night is 500% better than nothing at all.
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 19:18:04 ET
Posted by: Gobble Gobble, Yonge St.
Why can't you go after the turkey feast? SD won't go on til 8:45 if there is a Yahel or other opening act. Stuff your face and then stuff your ears!! EH??
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 18:43:24 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, In America, celebrating American holidays.
I don't give a shit if it's not a holiday in Canada, it's still a holiday in America and it still prevents me from going. What was wrong with that statement? Hehe...Duh!!
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 18:22:16 ET
Posted by: Astro The Impaler, Rats Rall Right Raj
Raj,
Chuck says you're swishy, that's what Chuck says...
'member?
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 16:23:43 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Hey Hutch/ Where I come from it is just a word to describe anyone' neither good or bad' however the loved ones of those that never returned from that high potency shit he made may disagree. I wont judge the man' I used my share of Psychs back in the day but am thankful that I can still enjoy Kid C and not Sesame Street.
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 16:17:39 ET
Posted by: JJJ,
Well, actually, Thanksgiving is a holiday in Canada, only it's celebrated in October. And there are no Steely Dan Canadian concerts booked on Canadian Thanksgiving , eh? :-)
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 16:11:35 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Young Wu - Maybe they booked a gig on Thanksgiving because Thanksgiving isn't a holiday in Canada...Duh!
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 16:05:10 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Toronto, baby!
Come on... The Royal Scam on Thanksgiving!? There is no way I can do that.
Oh well, hopefully I can get to Aja the day before.
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 13:59:28 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
The thing to remember about these venues is that many seat 2,500 to 4,000.
Back around May 2007 there was an example presented here showing that four or five shows at the Beacon reached the same attendance as a show at Jones Beach.
Take Chicago, for example: In 1993 & 1994, they played Poplar Creek in the northwest suburbs. The venue had a capactity of about 20,000. All-State Arena (2000 show) has a capacity of 18,500. United Center (2003 show) can be 19,000 to 22,000 for concerts. World/New World/Tweeter (IL)/First Midwest Bank is also about the same.
Now the Chicago Theatre seats about 3,800. multiply that by 4 and you get just over 15,000 seats for the four nights; The Star Plaza in Merrillville seats 3,400.
So these days, you are talking five nights of Steely Dan shows in the Chicago area to sell as many tickets as they used to sell for one night six to ten years ago. Then consider that they have to pay a band for five shows instead of one. And, OK, they don't have the visuals they used to have--just really cool lighting--so they cut some expenses there, etc., etc., etc.
Add it all up and it kinda makes sense why they have to charge more--some times double or more--for tickets than when they used to when they played sheds and arenas. Hey, I get to see all five shows, instead of one.
Just my two cents.
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 13:19:59 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
It's clear who you are, that you are an idiot and the same old asshole as ever.
Get along Kid Charlatan.
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 13:15:49 ET
Posted by: Funkmasta Jet, Space bling
Come on man, Jazz sucks...
Jazz just sucks. It's annoying piano-based wanking. It's the only genre where the piano player and the horns dweebs can feel important. Did I mention it sucks? Not all of it sucks but, mostly it sucks. Fagen and Becker were the only ones who were able to make it in the least bit tolerable by not doing right in the first place.
Have I made myself clear?
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 13:13:22 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the quick, in chicago
The Chicago area also has five dates--8/31, 9/1, 9/3, 9/4 and 11/7.
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 13:00:02 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, Masonic Auditorium
Bought two tix for each night of the SF dates, Friday through Sunday.
Looks like the boys are raking it in given the prices I saw.
Near stage lower section $255
Back lower section $170
Middle balcony $99
Side balcony $69
That's a lot of cheese for the lower section. I bought Middle and Side balcony because lower sections are just not doable.
Also, other than NYC, I noticed that the SF Metro area has the most dates on this tour. LA & Chicago had four dates, Boston 3. We get five, two in San Jose and three in SF proper. Any opinions as to why?
I have a feeling the boys will be enjoying some good vino in the Napa/Sonoma Valley, along with some fine cuisine.
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 12:37:49 ET
Posted by: Nice one, Chris
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 11:16:13 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
Heard this tune on the radio today. D&W, call your copyright lawyers:
http://www.lyricsmuse.com/tracks/1121206-Heartbeat_Radio_by_Sondre_Lerche
"...Tell me what you think about this song?
Sue me if you reckon it's too long."
The sentiment is closer to that of FM ( and Costello's "Radio Radio") than Deacon Blues - for instance, the references to "static."
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 11:03:44 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
I can't stand Louis Armstrong. His trumpet playing is gay and stupid. He should be banned from the internet!
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 11:03:11 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
GJ, that's quite the critical take down of an icon. "Random" and "fucked up." Never mind the fact that just about everyone with a basic understand of jazz music (as well as a deep understand of jazz music) disagrees - I can't argue with reasoning as sound as that!
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 08:58:40 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Klause - Just curious... why is Owsley a prick?
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 06:50:00 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
GJ - Jarrett plays with an intense spirit. Independent. Iconoclastic. The way he starts out an old Sinatra classic by letting you hear the original classic chords and strains and then wanders off on his own imaginative journey, no, Jarrett is masterful along with Peacock and De Johnette, three players of the highest quality and level of artistry even after all these years.
The old chestnut keeps calling out: "they can't take that away from me." And conversely, we can't take that away from him.
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 06:25:41 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
new dates added at steelydan.com
Nov 25 - Toronto ON - Massey Hall | Aja (Plus) | on sale 9/25
Nov 26 - Toronto ON - Massey Hall | The Royal Scam (Plus) | on sale 9/25
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 06:24:03 ET
Posted by: more dates, North America
Nov 25 - Toronto ON - Massey Hall | Aja (Plus) | on sale 9/25
Nov 26 - Toronto ON - Massey Hall | The Royal Scam (Plus) | on sale 9/25
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 06:18:21 ET
Posted by: George Jetson, death to Cogswell Cogs!
Keith Jarrett...
I can't understand how anyone could like his type of Jazz music. Ever since I was a kid I've always hated it. It's so random and fucked up, it sounds like background music for a Charlie Brown cartoon. Take this video for instance, I can take about 45 seconds of it before I want fuckin' kill something...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLCGWh-VZhI&feature=related
I swear to God I wanna take a firemans axe, jump up on stage, and smash that fucking piano into a zillion smithereen spinters! Positively the most annoying shit music anyone EVER fucking invented... Should be banned from the internet for lack of intelligible content!
Later,
GJ
Date: Mon, September 21, 2009, 05:06:31 ET
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Date: Sun, September 20, 2009, 17:14:16 ET
Posted by: bikemann, nj
Anyone notice the missing Gaucho nights???
Date: Sun, September 20, 2009, 17:02:06 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Was locked in on KC all day yesterday/ what a great song. This morning I googled Owsley and found the pricks website!!! I would have bet a million that he was in that great acid trip in the sky. some things will never change.
Date: Sun, September 20, 2009, 15:45:12 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Jaydee, I have experienced artists annoyed with the crowd's noise (or picture taking) and all have handled it in a better, more respectful way, than KJ.
I would like someone to tell Keith to stop the grunting so the playing of his very fine accompanists can be heard. I'm sure he'd take that well.
Glen Gould was a grunter, too, BTW. He tried his best to baffle the sound for recording sessions. I don't know what he did for live concerts. GG rarely played live, though.
Date: Sun, September 20, 2009, 15:25:34 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Well, Jarrett is a great artist but, lord, what a schmuck.
Date: Sun, September 20, 2009, 15:19:01 ET
Posted by: B. Meldon,
Make that: Jarrett's a true wuss.
Date: Sun, September 20, 2009, 15:18:03 ET
Posted by: B. Meldon,
Jarrett's true wuss.
Date: Sun, September 20, 2009, 13:59:51 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Saw Joe Pass playing solo guitar at Ronnie Scott's back in the 80's - any audible chatter did not provoke a tirade, he just stopped playing and stared at the offenders until they realised the error of their ways, then he carried on.
Date: Sun, September 20, 2009, 05:17:03 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I got nothin' but the clothes on my back and an HQ-180 vinyl of Aja.
Yes, the Umbria outburst was shameful but something must have clicked with the Italians...they were as silent as the tomb in Mantova for Jarrett last July. And what in heaven's name are all those grunts he gives out with?
Date: Sun, September 20, 2009, 00:12:51 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Akron? Good Lord/ this tour will break me. Hey Rajah' if the wife tosses me out do you have a comfy Eames chair?
Date: Sat, September 19, 2009, 19:03:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour
Incident at Umbria,
The reenactment was absolutely hysterical. Thanks for sharing.
It's too bad a talent like Jarrett has sullied his reputation with childish displays like the one in Umbria. He should be ashamed of himself.
Date: Sat, September 19, 2009, 15:03:57 ET
Posted by: Incident at Umbria, 1
Keith Jarrett's tirade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB9mMABRM0c&NR=1
Delivered in less abrasive tones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKuekiOmHec
Date: Sat, September 19, 2009, 13:23:57 ET
Posted by: Stan,
Steelydan.com has had the new shows up for 3-4 days now.
Hoops sent out a Digest with same info yesterday.
Merrillville is suburban Chicago, although it is a supper club where Steve Lawrence plays.
Date: Sat, September 19, 2009, 10:06:43 ET
Posted by: Norm, Greenspan
DC - sign out stranger. Please transfer your Blue membership to the Toby Keith site.
Date: Sat, September 19, 2009, 09:02:47 ET
Posted by: Me, Here
Merrillville, Indiana?
Really?
Date: Sat, September 19, 2009, 08:10:18 ET
Posted by: Tour Plotter, on the map
Assuming those rumored Akron dates on the 16th and 17th turn out to be true, Pittsburgh would be the logical stop after Cincinnati. Akron isn't a stretch at all considering they've played Blossom in Cuyahoga Falls several times which is an Akron suburb and where Donald typically had his family in attendance.
Date: Sat, September 19, 2009, 08:10:07 ET
Posted by: DC, DC
Mofo:
If they had to rely on blathering, broke, left wing idiots like you, stinking up the place with their left wing hooey, they'd be bamkrupt by now. They welcome the exposure.
Date: Sat, September 19, 2009, 07:55:02 ET
Posted by: Brad, Miller
Ghostworks - here's a link to a site that sheds some light on the reissue subject http://buffettnews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1075807&sid=318e89841f499f90f9f21d81f7bbbb65
Note the 3rd posting...it's from some guy named Jim McKay...whoever that is (sorry Hoops, couldn't resist). Perhaps Hoops could weigh in "hear" on his sonic conclusions of each of the remasters.
Date: Sat, September 19, 2009, 05:45:54 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky
Cincy dates, Taft Theater:
11/10
11/11
On sale Amex 9/22. Gen on sale 9/25.
Date: Sat, September 19, 2009, 00:25:44 ET
Posted by: Mofu Major, left of
I imagine Donald and Walter hate hearing their music being usurped by those blathering idiots stinking up the place with their right wing hooey.
Date: Fri, September 18, 2009, 23:15:05 ET
Posted by: Kkghhfg, Cjkhj
I heard a little bit of "my Old School" on Bill O'Reilly's show tonight. I might have heard the same on Rush and Hannity's radio shows! I LOVE that! They are our generation and they play our music.
Date: Fri, September 18, 2009, 18:15:36 ET
Posted by: GhostWorks,
Brad - catalog numbers for 'The Royal Scam' CD's I tested:
1. MCA original | 1986
> spine: MCAD-31193
> disc itself: MCAD31193 A60731Ed MFG BY UNT
2. MCA remaster | 1999
> spine: 088 112 051-2
> disc itself: 0881102512 0739215814 MFG BY MATSUSHITA UNIVERSAL MEDIA SERVICES
3. Geffen SHM-CD release | 2008
> spine: UICY-93519
> disc itself: MVCZ-10076-1 3T V IFPI L236 IFPI 4011
- there you go!
Date: Fri, September 18, 2009, 20:57:36 ET
Posted by: T'morrow's girl, happy at home
I heard a little bit of "my Old School" on Bill O'Reilly's show tonight. I might have heard the same on Rush and Hannity's radio shows! I LOVE that! They are our generation and they play our music.
Date: Fri, September 18, 2009, 18:15:36 ET
Posted by: GhostWorks,
Brad - catalog numbers for 'The Royal Scam' CD's I tested:
1. MCA original | 1986
> spine: MCAD-31193
> disc itself: MCAD31193 A60731Ed MFG BY UNT
2. MCA remaster | 1999
> spine: 088 112 051-2
> disc itself: 0881102512 0739215814 MFG BY MATSUSHITA UNIVERSAL MEDIA SERVICES
3. Geffen SHM-CD release | 2008
> spine: UICY-93519
> disc itself: MVCZ-10076-1 3T V IFPI L236 IFPI 4011
- there you go!
Date: Fri, September 18, 2009, 17:43:31 ET
Posted by: P. Parks,
Great shows this summer!
Date: Fri, September 18, 2009, 17:36:16 ET
Posted by: Dif, Champaign
Ummm, that's WALTER. Sorry.
Date: Fri, September 18, 2009, 17:33:59 ET
Posted by: Dif, Champaign
"Waler's Basses",
Thank you for answering my question.
Date: Fri, September 18, 2009, 16:15:56 ET
Posted by: Brad, Miller
It would be helpful if you could list the full catalog numbers of the CD releases you auditioned.
I would venture to say that the release of Royal Scam you deemed sounded best has "DIDX" on the spine (these were engineered by Roger Nichols, IIRC).
The "Right Price" releases were inferior to those engineered by Nichols.
As an asided, around the time Kamakiriad came out, I burned a copy of it on a PC burner and a "stand alone" burner. The stand alone and the original were virtually indistinguishable from one another but the PC copy lost some definition...particularly in the bass (why would that be?).
Date: Fri, September 18, 2009, 13:12:48 ET
Posted by: GhostWorks,
RE: STEELY DAN SHM-CD's
I did an exhaustive test with my favorite SD disc, 'The Royal Scam' in August of 2008. You can read the entire transcription here:
http://www.rushmessageboard.com/cpmb/index.php?showtopic=24839&st=0&p=919877&#entry919877
The broad strokes -
Discs tested:
1. MCA original | 1986
2. MCA remaster | 1999
3. Geffen SHM-CD release | 2008
The verdict:
The 1986 original MCA release sounds the best
The SHM-CD is an improvement over the worst of the bunch (which is the 1999 'midrange? what's midrange?' release).
But only slightly.
Date: Fri, September 18, 2009, 12:37:18 ET
Posted by: This is fun, To Post
Nov 10 - Cincinnati OH - Taft | Aja (Plus) | AMEX presale 9/22 - general on sale 9/25
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Date: Fri, September 18, 2009, 06:23:57 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
JJ is very germane to any Steely Dan discussion. And anyone who posts on here knows that getting pelted for what you choose to share is all just part of this ride. Fear of criticism mustn't hold you back.
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 22:21:17 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, eh
those tower tickets look like a ticket brokers website...I went to the Dan site and clicked on the date and live nation popped up.
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 19:42:25 ET
Posted by: Lonnie The Kingpin, Home Office
Dear Shoeless ~
WB and DF do not know who Joe Jackson is? Did you actually publish that nonsense? Maybe DF and WB don't know who Herbie Hancock is, to boot. Uh huh.
The JJ post was more than Steely Dan tangential. Informative and entertaining to the greater Dandom community, I would say. Great you tube link to a classic SD song performed by a great artist.
LTK
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 18:59:09 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
make that ticket, not tickets, as the price is for one - not two.
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 18:49:16 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
prime tickets for SF/SJC
$ 255.- plus charges.
talk about rent money!
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 18:20:08 ET
Posted by: Ned, R
Or pairs of pairs.
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 18:16:23 ET
Posted by: Ned, R
The prices on that website are for PAIRS of tickets
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 17:23:04 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
Pixeleen, I thought the same thing when I saw that, but I'm pretty sure the site directs you to "Philadelphia Theater" site which is a broker. There is no way those are face value prices....
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 16:33:54 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
"Shoeless": Since when did you start directing the board?
I was a casual JJ fan in the 80s when it seemed seemed like everyone who listened to "The Nightfly" when it came out also listened to JJ's "Night and Day". Between the NYC vibe, the attitude (Joe's can be too loud for me), the perfectionism, and the affinity for jazz, they have some commonalities. After a while, JJ"s attitude became a bit much for me. I think it was stories in the 1980s when he would yell "Shut up!" at concerts if the audience applauded too long that made me tune him out. Later he wrote that he was really fucked up in the mid-80s. Whatever.
Then in early 2000 several things made me appreciate JJ. One, was the Sony tapings in 2000. I had the chance to talk with Walter and someone else brought up Joe Jackson. Walter then started telling me and others there about how he was a JJ fan. For the Saturday night Sony taping, Joe was a guest in the first or second row. Later I found out that Walter was in the audience for one of the nights that ended up being JJ's live album. BTW: I can't say how WB's tastes have changed since.
Then there were all the subsequent covers--"Show Biz Kids" with Rickie Lee Jones, "King of The World" (IMHO, the only SD cover to ever rival or maybe even best, the original), "Reelin'," "Rose Darlin'," and several interviews as well.I can't think of a major artist who not only says he's big fan of SD, but who actually demonstrates it as well. Also check out JJ's autobiog from circa 1999--very funny, even if you hate JJ--and several passages about Steely Dan.
Back circa 2006 there were some circumstances that made discussing JJ here more germane than what was apparent at first look. The thing I learned from some of the nasty responses was to keep things to myself--people don't want to hear certain things. It's in that same spirit that some people won't post rumors before things are official, lest they get pelted by cynics.
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 16:23:25 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Ticket prices on Tower Theater (philly) website are MIGHTY expensive.
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 14:42:22 ET
Posted by: Shoeless, Joe
JJ's obviously fond of the Dan. But I've never read anything to acknowledge that Don & Walt even know who he is. Speaking of '06, let's not again turn this into a JJ guest book.
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 13:29:19 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
As a youngster in the '60s, Peter, Paul & Mary were also the first band I got hooked on and had to have more of their records. And given their connections to Bob Dylan, PP&M was not a bad starting point for a youngster. About that time, my older brother told me PP&M died in a plane crash and I was devastated.
Of course, they made their public debut at The Bitter End for which The Greater Dandom's Pete Fogel books. That's the famous Bitter End brick wall behind them on the cover of their wildly popular, award-winning debut album.
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 13:22:32 ET
Posted by: Jerry,
And of course, Joe Jackson also has performed Junkie Girl and Rose Darling live.
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 13:07:42 ET
Posted by: Lonnie The Kingpin, Home Office
Hello one and all ~
Check out this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEpljEbehnY&NR=1
I have seen Joe cover several Dan tunes in live performances over the years, including a tasty version of "Reelin'" back in 2000 he did one night. Of course, King of the World is on his "Summer in the City" live album. Joe is a fantastic pianist and obviously loves the Dan material. THIS would be a great pairing -- much better than Mike McD back in 2006. Having Joe J on stage with the boys for part of a Steely Dan set would be awesome!
Lonnie (of 19 and 65)
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 10:26:14 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Man, In less than the flipside of a heartbeat, I would sign up for the prebuy of a new album with just WB,DF, bass, drums, and Mark Knopfler. Thanks for personally sharing a great idea in such an earnest and forthright way. It's like a marriage made in far Azoff.
And speaking of Honah Lee, it is a sad blessing as we slowly lose pieces and hunks of the soundtracks of our lives. Not long after I was born, my Nanny and older sisters started playing PP&M, and I loved it because the songs were funny-- and understandable. Along came Album 1700, and it had a GREAT song on it that was kinda different and my favorite. Time went by, and about the time America's greatest rock and roll band started releasing,-- BAM. It hit me. I love rock and roll music. I grew up in a house with two card-carrying (of course there were cards) Beatlemaniacs, but Mary and her mates gave me my first script for expressing a whole bunch of feelings inside a lot less of me. RIP.
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 07:20:56 ET
Posted by: Rajah, a land called honah lee
Who could forget that lovely mane of blonde hair on Mary Travers, the way she waved it around. They were essential elements of the 60s folk scene which paved the way for many new forms of pop music.
Then shortly after their big success, they seemed to be shunted off into irrelevancy. Painted wings and giant rings made way for other stuff.
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 06:23:21 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
This is off the SD topics, nonetheless...
I'm sad to hear of Mary Travers' passing. Peter, Paul and Mary were a huge influence on me and my desire to play guitar back in the mid sixties. They were the first live concert I ever saw when I was 13 years old. She had a wonderful presence on stage. When you watched her you knew that she deeply meant every word she sang.
My thoughts go out to Peter and Noel and to Mary's family.
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 01:48:16 ET
Posted by: G. Jetson, far aphelion
Lutz, you can't sell cd's these days anyway. There's no outlet for it. Tower Records is dead. The only money is in touring. Everybody digitally swipes the recordings anyhow. But if they were to try and have some success with recording sales again they're going to have to stop trying to be slick and be more earnest and forthright with the songs. People know when you're trying to hide something. You have to share part of yourself in the songs you write, because if you don't people can tell. The later stuff is too slick and not personal enough. And bring the guitars back and push the horns further back in the mix... Hell, write a few songs without horns and backup singers for a change. What the hell do you have to lose? Stop doing the same thing over and over again. How about a couple of forthright, earnest, stripped down songs on the next cd? Stop all this nonsense! I love those old demos with Fagen, Becker, a bassist and a drummer. There's no hiding with something like that. You can't hide behind the complexity. You can't hide behind the backup singers. It's just YOU... and you have to honestly have something to say and something to share with the listener personally. Unless and until they're willing to do that they shouldn't make another cd. The next one has to be totally different... just like the old days.
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2009, 01:07:52 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
Mark Knopflers new cd is gorgeous.
He releases one every 2 years - no big deal - and it sells.
His band is smaller, but the target audience and live venues are similar, at least in the US.
It's surprising, many SD fans seem to like the older stuff more than their mature efforts and sales have not been that good lately.
Imagine the possibilities if sales were brisk...
Hopefully all this touring will add fans and make them take another shot at it.
Date: Wed, September 16, 2009, 21:00:03 ET
Posted by: walter's basses,
There are photos of Walter playing a Fender Jazz, the Gibson, and the Lucite Dan Armstrong bass live with Steely Dan in the 70s.
He used a '58 maple neck Fender Precision from Pretzel Logic on, and used it specifically on Rikki. Here's a photo of that bass
http://entertainment.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=648&Lot_No=22322&type=&ic=
Now he uses Sadowsky basses and guitars.
Date: Wed, September 16, 2009, 18:15:58 ET
Posted by: michael liva, Champaign
H...
I was rather hoping that Walter played bass on Kid C.
Being rather short on time now, can anyone tell me which sessions Walter started playing guitar on in addition to his always competent bass playing?
In videos back in the day, I've always seen him playing a Gibson Firebird bass. Did he play other makes and models? I always thought that he looked so diminutive playing that big Firebird onstage.
Date: Wed, September 16, 2009, 17:15:49 ET
Posted by: H,
KC - Yep, and I'll be stackin' cutouts till I hear from him!
I was listening to Chuck Rainey's bass line on Kid Charlemagne recently. Very inventive, sophisticated bass work. Focus in on it during the guitar solo where you can hear it more clearly without the vocals. Amazing stuff.
I believe I read somewhere that Chuck considered it some of his best work.
Date: Wed, September 16, 2009, 16:36:36 ET
Posted by: In the, Littlest hours
I hope they got a good discount at this hour. Bring plenty of java.
http://www.philadelphia-theater.com/theaters/tower-theater/tickets.php?eventName=Steely Dan&displayNames=true&month=11&year=2009
Date: Wed, September 16, 2009, 11:12:33 ET
Posted by: Joeys Mom, Upstairs
Joey dear,
Its time for me to play on the computer. Tell your friends you'll talk to then later.
Love,
Mom
Date: Wed, September 16, 2009, 09:48:46 ET
Posted by: KC, Champion
Skip Gildersleeve will be on alert next time they play Kid C live.
Date: Wed, September 16, 2009, 08:24:19 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
This is what I'll be working on this week...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pho3FXOGnVg
A challenge no doubt, but well worth the effort.
I have a boot with just the backing track... no vocal or lead guitar, so it'll be fun to play along.
Date: Wed, September 16, 2009, 04:19:32 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland
NEW SHOWS
Nov 19 - Philadelphia PA - Tower Theatre | Aja (Plus)
Nov 20 - Philadelphia PA - Tower Theatre | The Royal Scam (Plus)
Date: Wed, September 16, 2009, 03:55:06 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
'Were You Blind That Day' - still interesting. Brian Sweet's paragraph seems to imply that there was no proto-version (ie a 'different' song), but that SD simply re-recorded the song as it was, keeping Carlton's solo from the 'Aja' sessions, then tweaked the lyrics for the final version.
Only thing that might mitigate against this, IMO, is that the 'Gaucho out-takes' version of WYBTD has a few lyrics that just don't seem to sit well with the tune, suggesting that they were originally written for a different tune - this is especially noticeable where DF sings, "Who lives behind those eyes" across a sequence of notes that finally became (with an extra syllable), "We'll see behind those blind eyes". Same is also suggested by the brief clip I could find of Luciana Souza's version of 'Were You Blind', where she sings the lyrics very freely, almost drifting across the melody rather than matching it.
Only definitive answer might come from one of the proud, steely-helmeted guardians of the 'Aja out-takes', who could confirm that the first version of WYBTD differed musically as well as lyrically from the eventual TWM. Maybe these shadowy aristocrats of SD historiography (who are these panjandrums of dandom?) could also hint that a proto-'Maxine' does indeed exist, just to keep alive my grail-like quest for any vestigial remnant of this missing link.
Side note - doesn't the dancing guy on the back of the 'Gaucho out-takes' look like a young DF ?!
Jive Miguel - enjoyed your review just 'in from Borgata'. "As Fagen's fragile pipes go, so goes Steely Dan" - too true I think, but current status seems to be encouraging rather than troubling.
Date: Wed, September 16, 2009, 00:29:16 ET
Posted by: steely fan, nj
Just got back from seeing Mike McDonald & Boz Scaggs at the State Theatre in New Brunswick where Fagen's solo tour kicked off in '06. In an apparent cost cutting measure with the shared bill, Boz nixed his trumpet/flute player and had only one backing vocalist instead of the usual two. It made me realize the need for SD to put meat in the seats to keep four horns and three singers on tour. Drew Zing on guitar. Mike M's set was pretty much like '06. If you had enough of him on that tour, you're probably better off catching Boz by himself when he hopefully has the full roster.
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 23:53:00 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
My Borgata review for NJ's Aquarian Weekly:
http://www.theaquarian.com/2009/09/08/steely-dan-borgata-hotel-casino/
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 22:35:05 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Thanks for the imput.
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 16:50:30 ET
Posted by: That's Mistra Know It All, to you
Sir.
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 15:53:37 ET
Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All,
Rajah - What don't I get? A 50 year old man coming off sounding like a 2 year old? I get it all right. And what I've been hearing about you for the past few years is pretty unbelievable. You're the one that really doesn't seem to get anything! Although you think you know everything.
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 12:56:17 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
This may not mean anything, but Luciana Souza's version of Were You Blind That Day was produced by Larry Klien and follows the tune of TWM. If Larry Klein had any inside scoop from WB that there was a different tune, maybe LS would have used it.
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 12:19:12 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Jaydee:
Thanks for the response, and you nailed it, that was exactly what I was looking for. The reason why I asked that is based on two things:
1. That's the way I've always interpreted it. What I mean to say is that in reading or hearing that they rebuilt Third World Man around Larry Carlton's solo from Were You Blind That Day, it seemed to me like they were unhappy with both the lyrics and music to Were You Blind That Day but liked the guitar solo enough to write a whole new song around it. That was, until I heard the version of Were You Blind That Day, which, like you said, is the exact same musically as Third World Man, hence my bringing up this whole conversation in the first place. But then why does Brian Sweet say they "threw away" Were You Blind That Day? All they really did was change the lyrics. That doesn't sound like "rebuilding the song around a guitar solo" to me.
2. The second reason is a bit different. I've heard Were You Blind That Day as part of a collection of Gaucho outtakes. But that song is referred to as an Aja outtake. This leads me to believe that there is at least a chance of a completely different Were You Blind That Day, especially since I've read, on this very forum, about the "legend" of how only a few people have supposedly ever heard the Aja outtakes.
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 12:04:17 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" The real genius and magic of their songs lies not in the fact that they are perfectly constucted musically and lyrically, well, some more than others but its that Steely Dan songs hold the mirror up to your face, they make you look at yourself, all the good and all the failings. "
A - FRIGGIN - MEN !!!!
Don & Walt are not after perfection .....that is NOT what those two are striving for when they write / record a song.
They desire songs that individuals will want to listen to over and over and over again ..... and everybody DOES !!!
2009 -- BEST DAN YET !!!!!
I remain ..... forever ..... your Joey .
Joeykins ! ™
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 11:53:49 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Always find Joey amusing - but have to admit that, as we have virtually no 'Joeys' over here, I can only picture him as that guy in 'Friends ! "
You Are Much Loved By Joey
" Re 'scrambled eggs' - my memory of the story is that it was just a phrase that McCartney used to keep the tune in his head until he could confirm that it was indeed an original composition, which he initially doubted. "
Here is a great link explaining the song :
http://home.att.net/~chuckayoub/Help_Lyrics.html
J. Fly ! ™
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 10:33:58 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
What if luck were opportunity meeting preparation?
What if Birch Johnson improvised on Jack Teagarden and someone nice transcribed it for him, and later others used the chart as a roadmap to change?
I'm just not sayin'...
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 09:53:34 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
GJ, in the face of that impassioned outburst, I am left speechless.
Almost.
I get your sense of humor and I admire the audacity and irony of it. But no, dear comrade, we're not all that gifted as Donald and Walter. They launched themselves off to Los Angeles on a wing and a prayer and they were good enough and yes, lucky enough, to find a success I don't think either of them ever calculated. But even as young men, they had a rare understanding of the human condition. No, my friend, trust me, they're special. But I think you know that.
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 08:59:52 ET
Posted by: G. Jetson, Spacely Enterprises Inc.
Rajah please... If you or I had nothing to do all day but play music and write songs we could come up with some phenomenal stuff too. Especially if we had our pick of top session musicians to choose from and a huge budget to go along with it. I would say these guys are more fortunate than gifted. More well financed than exceptional. At the end of the day, I am better than them... I am their God, and they are primitives in a cage clawing at the light of my radiance.
There is ME, and then there is NOT ME. They, are NOT ME.
Thank You,
GJ
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 08:38:05 ET
Posted by: Concert Hunt, out
Here's a site claiming an Oct 8 Beacon show. The rest of the SD dates they list seem accurate.
http://www.5gig.com/gig/steely-dan-new-york-beacon-theatre-8-october-2009-93868.html
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 08:34:39 ET
Posted by: OVDKRcKJ,
doors.txt;10;15
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 02:52:36 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Just dug out Brian Sweet's book, and found this paragraph (p.145):
" One song on which Steve Khan didn't get to play the solo was 'Third World Man'. The reason was that the solo had been recorded at the 'Aja' sessions by Larry Carlton for a song entitled 'Were You Blind That Day?' which Fagen had described as a third world fantasy. The song didn't quite come up to Becker and Fagen's expectations and so was left off 'Aja' at the last minute. When 'The Second Arrangement' was erased, Steely Dan then pulled the song out of the vaults, reworked the lyrics and re-recorded it under the title 'Third World Man'. Larry Carlton's original and moving guitar solo remained intact and indeed an integral part of the new song. "
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 01:47:46 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Interesting discussion re 'Were You Blind That Day', which to my ears is exactly the same recording as TWM on Gaucho (maybe slightly remixed), except for the lyrically revised vocal track.
I can see that what DeaconBlues16 is hoping for is some evidence, not of an 'intermediate' version, but of some 'proto' or 'ur' version - ie a totally different song from which only Carlton's solo was deemed worthy of retention. Would be interested to hear where DB16 heard of this, as it relates to a similar quest of my own, which I think originates from Brian Sweet's curate's egg of a book on SD. This is the story that Fagen's sublime 'Maxine' was written around Ed Green's drum track (the epitome of simplicity elevated to perfection), which was apparently recorded for a totally different, but ultimately abandoned, song. Have never had any luck in getting this anecdote confirmed, let alone any evidence that the original recording still exists (would love to hear the mythical beast).
Rajah is, as always, eloquent in his regard for the Dan's ability to fuse music and lyrics into something approaching an incisive psychological tool, but for me it's still more about supreme musical craftsmanship combined with intriguing lyrical mystery (ie I don't know what they're on about half the time). Or maybe I'm just not ready to hold up the mirror !
Re 'scrambled eggs' - my memory of the story is that it was just a phrase that McCartney used to keep the tune in his head until he could confirm that it was indeed an original composition, which he initially doubted. As for 'Walking Round the Room' - hmm, would even Sting have proposed such a banal title ?
Always find Joey amusing - but have to admit that, as we have virtually no 'Joeys' over here, I can only picture him as that guy in 'Friends !
Date: Tues, September 15, 2009, 01:34:06 ET
Posted by: Dalton, Double Deuce
Womens' enrollment in home pottery courses are up 4000 percent.
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 23:32:15 ET
Posted by: seth2112, cleveland, via nyc and tampa fl
who has the 411 on the akron ohio shows?
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 23:03:54 ET
Posted by: Johnny Castle, Heaven
R.I.P. Patrick Swayze
You fought a great fight, now you are at peace.
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 21:14:34 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I only ever speak for myself. Sorry you don't get it.
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 20:44:24 ET
Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All,
Rajah- Re: Joey: Please speak for yourself. That's one guy I'd like to KO!
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 20:37:08 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Denise, Joey has the best sense of humor on this board. No, it's not that he loves the Great and Powerful Rajah so much, he has a sense of the absurd and a freedom of expression that is, in Italian, "spaventosa," which means fearsome, breathtaking. I wish more of us were like him. I can't understand why some people find him annoying. Don't you get humor out there? Loosen up, bitches.
Remember laughter...
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 19:56:49 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
Joey, I must say I do enjoy your trademark signatures...they crack me up
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 19:09:58 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Joey, as always, the love is reciprocal. You so crazy my brotha...
But here's the serious point about Steely Dan songs that I've been trying to communicate, tell me if you think I'm wrong, I know you will.
The real genius and magic of their songs lies not in the fact that they are perfectly constucted musically and lyrically, well, some more than others but its that Steely Dan songs hold the mirror up to your face, they make you look at yourself, all the good and all the failings.
Steely Dan fans have a great sense of self awareness and this, I think more and more as I get older, is essential to a fully realized person. The regrets, the triumphs, they all pass away eventually with time...but the awareness of who you truly are, no lying to yourself, well, if you can't get to that place, what the hell has life taught you?
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 18:50:36 ET
Posted by: Concrete , Blonde
Joey, have you run off the reservation again?
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 18:30:06 ET
Posted by: Easy, Joey
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 17:15:21 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Steely Dan at their best and their best for me are the songs that take you on a journey into your own self, touching on certain hot points in your own psyche. But always slightly impersonal, allowing the listener to be taken away on their own personal journey, leaving you lots of room to allow the piece to take you away to wherever your mind wants to wander. "
Oh , THAT is majestic .
Rajah ............................................
I would like to clutch you to me bosom and gently , sweetly and oh so softly pat your warm , moist , glistening , GLISTENING young Rajah forehead ( with eyes looking up at me all ' Bambi - like ' ) and just say , " Thanks Rajah " for being ....... well .......... you's !!!!!
Joey , Est. 2002 and loved by Everybody ™
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 10:49:47 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
Thanks, Doc! (x 2)
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 05:39:00 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Third World Man. That song just sneaks up on you, starts out like this dirge and ends up errupting with a force that raises goose-pimples. A perfect album closer. Desolate, desparate, but resigned. But not maudlin, oh no, never that.
If an intermediate version of it exists from Were You Blind to its final form, I have not heard it. But the Gaucho outtake does speak volumes as to the development of a piece of music, revealing the artistic method behind the construction of a song. Larry Carlton seems to put a lot of body language into that bravado solo. Lots of spin. It haunts. Steely Dan at their best and their best for me are the songs that take you on a journey into your own self, touching on certain hot points in your own psyche. But always slightly impersonal, allowing the listener to be taken away on their own personal journey, leaving you lots of room to allow the piece to take you away to wherever your mind wants to wander.
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 04:51:46 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
Scrambled ?
'I hope my eggs don't break......walkin' on the moon.
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 02:45:37 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Checking the overnights
Another date added on steelydan.com:
Oct 29 - Denver CO - Wells Fargo Theatre | Aja (Plus) | AMEX presale 9/16 - general on sale 9/19
Date: Mon, September 14, 2009, 02:14:41 ET
Posted by: were you a blind third world man,
DB16
I recall that same vague story about Larry's guitar solo being too good to dump, so the boys lifted it and fit it into a new song. Implies writing a new song around the old one, as you say. But after hearing "Were You Blind That Day" (which uses the exact backing tracks as TWM), it seems that Donald rewrote the lyrics and re-cut the vocal while Walter was in the hospital with his shattered leg. Maybe that was one of the reasons they broke up!
Another "Scambled Eggs" example -
Sting wrote a song called "Walking 'round the Room", but fortunately his comrades in The Police helped convince him to go with "Walking on the Moon".
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 18:26:41 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Thank you for the response Rajah (I actually did know that tidbit about Yesterday, so it doesn't surprise me), but that wasn't really what I was looking for.
I was looking for something more specific about the Were You Blind That Day- Third World Man connection. (Although you could have been saying that Were You Blind That Day is to Third World Man as Scrambled Eggs is to Yesterday, I suppose). But like I said before, I've heard a version of Were You Blind That Day which is EXACTLY (or as close as possible) to Third World Man. Was there a version of Were You Blind That Day before the version I heard that was a completely different song except for the inclusion of Larry Carlton's guitar solo?
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 17:41:26 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Rajah/ Sir Paul had a dream that spurned the melody of [yesterday] that ought to tell us the diff between the average stick [myself] and the masters.
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 17:16:08 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
DB16 - your question, though simple and direct, probes to the very heart of how a song is constructed. From my experience with gifted fashioners of music, it begins with a little riff. A couple of chord changes, a touch here and there.
Third World Man is built around those 5 entrance chords. That's the heart of the song. Then lyrics are appended but it takes a while for a song to reveal itself, what it really might be about. Like Paul McCartney's, "Yesterday," one of the most covered songs of all times. It's original title was, "Scrambled Eggs," I kid you not.
Writing pop songs present a two tined problem, finding a melody, a hook and a lyric that suits them both. Not an easy task. Donald and Walter are so in tune with each other in this work, the songs they've given us...they make sense..the words and the music jive. Oh how I wish they'd get back to work at the thing they do best...
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 16:34:30 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
I've got a question.
The story goes that Third World Man was built from Larry Cartlon's solo in the song Were You Blind That Day. I've always assumed that Were You Blind That Day was a completely different song with different chord changes, and Larry Carlton's solo was so good that they wrote a completely different song with different chord changes that also allow for that magnificent solo (to sound proper). However, recently I've discovered Were You Blind That Day, and it's pretty much exactly the same as Third World Man with different lyrics. So here's my question:
Was Were You Blind That Day a completely different song except for the solo, then edited to fit the music that became Third World Man, and then the lyrics were changed, OR was Were You Blind That Day always exactly like Third World Man musically and then the lyrics were changed?
I don't know if anyone here knows this, but I figured it would be the only place to ask. Or it could be common knowledge that I just don't know, I guess.
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 14:14:51 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Gentlemen, aren't we splitting hairs here? What ultimately is the difference between being, "inventive," "creative," or "improvising?"
I seriously doubt Donald or Michael Leonhart chart out Jim Pugh's solo breaks. He's not in the same league as this guy Hall Crook who I've been listening to for a couple days and he can blow some serious shit but Pugh, c'mon, he ain't chopped liver either...
Brutus, since we're on the trombone subject, what is this thing I keep seeing here in Europe, it's a trombone with a slide but it has three valves as well...what is that thing?
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 13:17:10 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Brutus/ irony was the intent' I guess I am getting into the spirit of the debate. I in no way intend to second guess you or the great Rajah's knowledge of music or all things Dan. It would be a boring world without the horns my friend!! All kidding aside I agree w/ your assesment the guy can bone you for sure.
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 13:02:40 ET
Posted by: Avery, Fisher
SS, thanks. That's what I was afraid of :) Yet another more revealing CD format. Used to have some Sequel II's. Regards.
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 12:54:47 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Klaus -
You don't have to put yourself down intentionally or ironically.
I just wanted to make the point or rather, challenge Rajah's original point that Jim Pugh is truly a terrific "inventive" trombonist.
Jim is a WONDERFULLY COMPLETE trombonist, musician and human being. He's an Eastman (School of Music) grad and to get through that school with you wits in tact and succeed as he has, you have to really be terrific, which Jim is.
Again, Hal Crook is really about the most creative 'bone player "out there" today. Conrad Herwig is a ballsy, in-your-face, Coltrane/M. Brecker disciple. He has facility, range, etc. But the man has little or no humor or vulnerability/humaness to his playing as Hal does.
To use WB's phrase, he plays like he's expressing the Anger of the 60s. He has a very grating/nerve-racking style akin to Alan Holdsworth.
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 12:42:07 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
Avery, I own an Aja SHM disc.
They run anywhere from $20 to $30.
I blind tested it against my MFSL Aja through Martin Logan speakers with a friend who has a fine ear. It took him about a quarter of a second to declare the SHM far superior.
I will likely get everything I cannot get on DVD-A/SACD in this format, (Katy Lied etc) though I might just try one more first before ordering up the lot.
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 12:20:54 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Brutus the boneplayer/meant no disrespect/ I can play the hell out of a Tele or a Strat but the truth is most folks cant tell the diff between an A or a A7 All I meant was/ ah hell I dont know what I meant. Keep working the Trombone and I will curtail my opines from now on. Maybe I can meet you at the second leg of the tour and we can discuss music theory. Or since I am just a dumbfuck guitar player you can explain it to me.
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 12:08:26 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Klaus -
Thanks for chiming in. Stevie Ray played a mean Strat and GE Smith plays the hell out of his Tele. Please refrain from thinking of us 'bone players as unhip to other instrumentalists and what they play. We understand that, and, perhaps more importantly, USUALLY how and what they're playing on their respective axes.
Merry Christmas or Happy Hanukkah or Anyday -
Brutus
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 11:56:46 ET
Posted by: Avery, Fisher
Anyone heard any of the SD releases in the SHM format?...(apparently all of the pre-2000 recordings have been released in this format).
Japanese to English translations...and it's brutal: "Concerning SHM-CD (the universal music)
25 years, the commodity which aims toward the improvement of the sound quality in various ways was developed from CD sale, but the high sound quality CD by the new material this time, with the universal music and the cooperation development of Nippon Victor, is sold.
@Furthermore it improved transparency from the usual CD material by using the polycarbonate resin type of another kind, it is the birth of new CD.
The quality characteristic of SHM-CD
Usual CD transparency improvement, furthermore the optical quality which is superior is held with polycarbonate resin type of another kind from the material.
Especially circumferential we are superior in double refraction quality of direction, we have become the material which is suited for DISC formation with high flowability and high copying characteristic.
The acoustic quality of SHM-CD
Skewness it is little former in comparison with CD, the sound quality where the transparent impression is high.
From actualizing the sound quality where balance comes off due to the fact that resolution improves substantially.
It was tend to be until recently, it cancels the volume insufficiency of the limits low."
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 11:47:23 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Cmon/ once again' the 1st leg of the tour is over and we get bored and this forum becomes stupid. A bunch of guys who could not tell the diff between a Tele and a Strat banter over music theory. These guys have been doing this for years and they know what the fuck they are doing' Pugh/ Herington or Carlock or the great Donald dont check the blue to see which way they should go. and all the best to you both.
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 11:39:15 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Nwinnyc -
I recently had a colorectal exam and I'm clean. My nor no one else's head (or any other body appendage or foreign material for that matter) was detected, thank Goodness.
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 11:32:48 ET
Posted by: nwinnyc, nyc
Because it's all in good fun and I could not care less what you do or don't stick up your ass.
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 10:45:24 ET
Posted by: Bill, Watrous
Like I said, they don't call him Brutus for nothing...atta boy, Brutus.
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 10:32:36 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Nwinnyc -
Why are you wishing me all the best? Why don't you tell me to stick it up my ass? You should state what you feel/mean instead of being banally ironic? I'll understand.
I should have clarified my original statement by explicitly saying "NO EXTENDED IMPROV W/ A RHYTHM SECTION USING REPEATING JAZZ CHORD CHANGES."
How's that work for you? Better?
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 10:03:44 ET
Posted by: nwinnyc, nyc
Not to be a jerk Brutus, but what you said was "ALL of the music from the Pugh/Taylor Project was WRITTEN. NONE OF IT FEATURED IMPROVISATION. The COMPOSERS of the compositions may have been "inventive" but, Jim and Dave Taylor read what was written." That is hard to misunderstand and simply not true.
It's actually rather interesting because you obviously were under the impression that the entire record was written. You go on to say that the composers were "inventive". Jim and Dave were improvising a great deal during the course of the record, so it's not a large leap to state that you view their individual efforts as inventive. Although, that perspective is achieved unwittingly. That's of course if we really want to enter into a debate on matters not subjective.
However, if what you consider to be inventive only includes "straight improv w/ a rhythm section" then there's simply no point in us engaging in a dialogue nor a debate. The scope is entirely too small and limiting. all the best to you
Date: Sun, September 13, 2009, 08:48:02 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
nwinnyc -
I'm talking about straight improv w/ a rhythm section. Where do you hear extended "blowing" on that disc w/ a rhythm section?
Date: Sat, September 12, 2009, 18:54:03 ET
Posted by: nwinnyc, nyc
Sorry Brutus but you're wrong. Feel free to look at the scores for yourself if you don't believe me but there is a tremendous amount of improvising on The Pugh Taylor Project by both Dave and Jim. Actually, just read the liner notes where it's clearly stated.
It's nothing personal but next time, check your facts before stating something with such certainty that reflects on someone's abilities.
I'm quite familiar with Hal's playing and he's absolutely brilliant. Only Human is a simply amazing display of improvising and one of my favorite records. Used to drive up to Providence on to hear him play at AS220.
Date: Sat, September 12, 2009, 18:08:46 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Well, thank you Bill for that stern advice.
That said, you and Brutus are both correct, that guy Crook is off the charts original. I love that freewheeling stuff, it sets me off, truly. I always think of Eric Dolphy, the way he busted everything loose, left the well-worn structures behind and ventured forth. That guy Hal Crook, thank you for introducing me to his work, is singular and courageous in his choices. I enjoyed it very much.
Jim Pugh has to play Steely Dan songs. He acquits himself admirably.
Date: Sat, September 12, 2009, 15:54:22 ET
Posted by: Bill, Watrous
I have to weigh in on the side of Brutus on this one. Raj is eloquent and controvesial but it's painfully obvious that Raj is not as well travelled, bonistically speaking, as the Brute (the Brute doesn't have that moniker for nothing, after all). Raj, unfortunately, is degenerating into the dean's stance of everything steely is precious metal. Raj, my advice is to do yourself a favor and stand down on this one.
Date: Sat, September 12, 2009, 15:16:16 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Raj and Nwinnyc -
Both of you must listen to Hal Crook for truly breathtaking improvisation.
He's a featured soloist on none other than one of our and SD's fav alto sax players - Phil "Dr. Wu" Woods':
http://www.rhapsody.com/phil-woods/into-the-woods-the-best-of-phil-woods
Hal is truly amazing - just ask Phil. (Note: Hal is THE ONLY 'bone player PHIL HAS EVER HAD IN HIS GROUPS.)
I really would like both of you to compare the 2 players (Hal and JIm) and then subsequently post your opinions. I'd be interested to hear/see what you say.
Date: Sat, September 12, 2009, 15:15:02 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
OOPS......not videos but good quality audios.
Date: Sat, September 12, 2009, 15:13:17 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Several new videos from Chicago shows just added to YouTube......
Date: Sat, September 12, 2009, 15:02:30 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
nwinnyc -
ALL of the music from the Pugh/Taylor Project was WRITTEN. NONE OF IT FEATURED IMPROVISATION. The COMPOSERS of the compositions may have been "inventive" but, Jim and Dave Taylor read what was written.
To confirm what I'm saying, simply go to Jim's Myspace and ask him.
I must add, however, that both Jima nd Dave PERFORMED WONDERFULLY on that disc.
Date: Sat, September 12, 2009, 11:35:47 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I'm certainly not an expert on the trombone but I know a creative hardbop player when I hear one. Pugh takes risks with the melodic theme and yet, yes, always remains in control. He's a major dude back there.
Date: Sat, September 12, 2009, 10:25:08 ET
Posted by: nwinnyc, nyc
As far as the claim that Jim Pugh is not an "inventive" player, I beg to differ. Try listening to "The Pugh Taylor Project" and see if that doesn't change your mind. If you still think otherwise...listen again.
Date: Sat, September 12, 2009, 09:51:16 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Raj -
Jim Pugh is not a great inventive player. A very competent "improviser" and a wonderfully SOLID OVERALL trombonist and musician and human being. He is not truly "inventive".
Some truly "inventive" trombone players are: Frank Rosolino, Hal Crook, Albert Mangelsdorf, Carl Fontana, J.J. Johnson, Jack Teagarden, Jimmy Knepper and a select very, very few others.
Date: Sat, September 12, 2009, 08:47:45 ET
Posted by: The Amazing Kreskin, Duderanch above the sea
Here's a trivia question for you...
In the movie "Me, Myself, and Irene", who did the song "Monkey In Your Soul"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxgVVV8M3l0&feature=channel_page
Date: Fri, September 11, 2009, 22:03:21 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
JAKE,
The only Pugh solos I can remember for certain this year are on Hey 19, at the close, on Royal Scam, where he took over the horn punctuation (if that term applies), and also his portion of the four-part horn solo of Godwacker. Possibly he has also soloed on "Daddy Don't Live..." but I am uncertain right now. I think he did a solo on Home at Last in 2008, but I can't say for sure; this year Michael Leonhart filled that role at the shows I saw.
Date: Fri, September 11, 2009, 19:09:08 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Yo, G, man: Bart and Judy or Elroy and Lisa think you may be on to something. Since Kevin Jonas is the natural for the young WB, Joe could be DF with Nick covering his playing. THEN we'd get Fire in the Hole and Turn That Heartbeat Over Again. Didn't we change the Guard last November? "...We seen the last of VP Richard. Wring out your Roth. His name lives on. Roll skull and bones. And raise Gates a pitcher. Raise killer grass for good King Barry..." Reg and pledge.
That "Don't Let Me In" sure captures a kind spirit. And if you don't mind trading in your SD at that den of thieves...
If only Cornell Dupree had played steel guitar.
Date: Fri, September 11, 2009, 18:04:28 ET
Posted by: G. Jetson, Stop this crazy thing!
SHUT UP SHILLS!
When EXACTLY are we gonna get the keyboard player to sing the songs we wanna hear??? WHEN!!! When are we gonna get "Change Of The Guard" and "Turn that heartbeat over" and "Razor Boy" and "King Of The World" and "Dark Side Of The Moon" out of this freakin' band anyway! This is just OUT OF CONTROL at this point!
I dunno man... we may hafta fire the lead singer if this keeps up. We can replace him with Madonna or Miley Cyrus or somethin can't we? I mean if Becker says we play the songs, then WE PLAY THE SONGS RIGHT??? Since when does the keyboard player have any say in that? Since when!
GJ
Date: Fri, September 11, 2009, 16:16:19 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Jim Pugh, in my humble estimation, is simply a great inventive player. He hears his own drumbeat, if you will, he does things that always challenges the ear, at all times a leader, never a follower. A veteran of over 2000 studio sessions as Walter has told us, he's a guy they trust implicitly. He's a rock. Full stop.
Date: Fri, September 11, 2009, 14:21:29 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Merrillville, IN show Nov. 7, now listed on SD.com
Date: Fri, September 11, 2009, 12:27:27 ET
Posted by: Ticket Search, up
Some tickets sites are showing a third San Jose date on Oct 22. Highly unlikely, since it would mean shows on six consecutive nights.
Steelydan.com now shows the Indiana date.
Date: Fri, September 11, 2009, 12:18:40 ET
Posted by: George, Paris
If you haven't yet listened to the Kind Spirit youtube that Bill from Pgh gave us below, it's well worth the time.
Date: Fri, September 11, 2009, 12:03:37 ET
Posted by: JAKE, Near the big mountain
Hello Dan Fans,
I just saw the band and was wondering. Over the years, on what songs has Jim Pugh played solos? He is very good.
My daughter, of all people, plays high school trombone. My daughter, oh well.
Thank you,
JAKE
Date: Fri, September 11, 2009, 08:10:53 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
I kid you not:
http://www.post-trib.com/entertainment/1762142,steelydan0911.article
Date: Fri, September 11, 2009, 07:03:39 ET
Posted by: KD, not Chicago
steelydoc, seriously?
Date: Fri, September 11, 2009, 06:58:02 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
Merrillville, Indiana, November 7
Date: Fri, September 11, 2009, 05:09:27 ET
Posted by: MIKE G, ECOSSE
To quote Ry Cooder
All steel players go to Heaven
Some just go through hell
But the Good Lord loves each and every one
When your ragtime cowboy days are done
Come up to steel guitar Heaven with me
That's steel guitar Heaven to me
Date: Thurs, September 10, 2009, 22:42:52 ET
Posted by: Bodacious Cowboy, Steel(y) guitar?
Minor Dangential component to this Roseanne Cash interview with the mention of the Wainwright family...
Rosanne Cash Discusses "The List"
http://www.the9513.com/rosanne-cash-discusses-the-list/
I also just thought the interview was somewhat interesting in its own right, but what do I know?...
And since there have been a couple recent steel guitar mentions I just thought I'd point out these non-SD-content finds of the night:
Steel Guitar: Underground or Under The Ground
http://www.the9513.com/steel-guitar-underground-or-under-the-ground/
Some discussion of the seeming decline of steel guitar in country music these days.
I never heard of it before, but apparently there's a Steel Guitar Hall of Fame in St. Louis...
Barbara Mandrell honored for steel guitar playing
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090910/ap_en_mu/us_steel_guitar_hall_of_fame
...though I can't seem to find an official looking website for it, only this page (and the overall related site)...
http://www.scottysmusic.com/hofplq.htm
There's an annual "International Steel Guitar Convention" and it was last weekend, which is when/where Mandrell was honored, but I don't actually see any mention of her being honored/inducted...
http://www.scottysmusic.com/isgc2009.htm
Re steel guitar in a jazz context, I see listed on the convention schedule...
___________________
Saturday September 5th Morning/Afternoon:
The Jazz Show
Chouteau Room
10:00am until 1:50pm
Featuring:
Jim Cohen
Russ Wever
doug Jernigan
Glenn Taylor
David Wright
Dave Easley
Staff Band:
Jim Stahlhut - Guitar
Bob DeBoo - Acoustic Bass
Kyle Honeycutt - Drums
___________________
Oh well, that was just in case anybody really cares that much about the steel guitar, though honestly I kind of doubt it outside of a Steely context (which is, of course, fine, nothing wrong with that).
A little off-the-beaten-path content once in a while isn't necessarily a bad thing (imo), is it? Don't answer that...
Date: Thurs, September 10, 2009, 18:29:10 ET
Posted by: big "d", detroit
ok!ok! how about that.i got a demo tape that is mislabeled - an early bare bones version of caves of altamira,labeled as android warehouse.once i viewed the words to android i knew something was wrong.thanks to bill, matt,jj for there imput on this matter.
Date: Thurs, September 10, 2009, 15:47:54 ET
Posted by: Bill, Chapin
This is the drum set I remember Jeff playing on the Pretzel Logic tour: http://themusicsover.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/jeffpocaro.jpg
Date: Thurs, September 10, 2009, 12:38:45 ET
Posted by: N.G, NorthSouthCentralEastNYCTPANJ
If they don't feel that they have completely exhausted all demand for tickets within a 100 mile radius of the Beacon, I'm hoping to see a date or three pop up for the Count Basie Theatre in Red Bank, NJ. I would not pay to see them again at the Wellmont.
Date: Thurs, September 10, 2009, 11:54:06 ET
Posted by: Jack Webb, Cole's - French Dip For Breakfast
Junkies? Addicts? Need more Larry?
http://www.mr335.tv/?channel=steely&videofile=mr335/steely/steelyrig
Going Wacko in Waco? Need more Larry?
http://larrycarlton.com./pages/LC090926_5_Waco_TX_Poster.pdf
http://www.mclennan.edu/bosque/
What a deal!!!
Unfortunately Larry IS booked for Leg II.....BUT....there is an opening....is there gas in the car?
Of course there is Frank! The city pays for it.
....just the facts
Date: Thurs, September 10, 2009, 11:04:29 ET
Posted by: Dif, Champaign
Mercy! I just realized that David Palmer sang Dirty Work and not Maestro Fagen.
Someone would have corrected me in short order, I'm sure.
Date: Thurs, September 10, 2009, 10:51:57 ET
Posted by: Leg II,
Lots of Autumn dates...
Date: Thurs, September 10, 2009, 10:39:07 ET
Posted by: Dif, Champaign
Little Wild One,
Let's see...that would be Any Major Dude. The version with Fagen singing.
Have any concert-goers noticed noticed what a nice touch pedal steel
would have added to the songs performed?
Date: Thurs, September 10, 2009, 10:38:43 ET
Posted by: Dif, Champaign
Little Wild One,
Let's see...that would be Any Major Dude. The version with Fagen singing.
Have any concert-goers noticed noticed what a nice touch pedal steel
would have added to the songs performed?
Date: Thurs, September 10, 2009, 08:26:10 ET
Posted by: Denise, cape
JJ, yes. In both songs the character seems to be dealing with their past "hipness" in the present. I could be misinterpreting it of course.
Date: Thurs, September 10, 2009, 08:17:25 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Denise - I'm confused. Have you ever heard the song Ghost of Hipness Past ?
Date: Thurs, September 10, 2009, 02:18:35 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
Hey Bill from Pitt...thanks for bringing up Kind Spirit.
I've been wondering a long time on that song who played the drums. My guess is Steve Gadd. What do you think ?
Anyway, it's a fab tune. Killer hooks.
Date: Thurs, September 10, 2009, 01:01:27 ET
Posted by: Aussie LA Danfesters, Melbourne, Oz
Just thought I'd say a big thankyou to the lovely Danfesters my brother and I met on the Monday night LA show Danfest. You guys put the cherry on top of what was a fantastic, whirlwind adventure.
Date: Thurs, September 10, 2009, 00:12:39 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, party central
Beaubo knows what he's talking about, but I agree with Craig's comparison....and I sure wish Craig's recommendation for shows with tunes from new shows would come true!
I've been hearing "Aja" in my head all day and yesterday, it was "Parker's Band." Anyone else got a tune from a recent show running through your psyche that won't quit?
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 22:55:48 ET
Posted by: Denise, in error
I meant to say I saw a link between Ghost of Hipness Past and Slang of Ages: the same idea transformed into a new song.
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 22:48:43 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
Been Youtubing through various SD rarities and came across "Kind Spirit," allegedly a Gaucho outtake. I must have missed this one. Nice tune, DF scatting "nah nah" through what should have been verses, sings a chorus, cool drums, bass, acoustic and electric piano. Most of the serious collectors probably have this one but it was new to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oly-F6NHi-o&feature=related
From the same sessions that include "You Got The Bear", which I have heard before.
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 22:32:28 ET
Posted by: Bill, again,
Approximate lyrics to the real Android Warehouse: http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/140462/
I guess it's OK to post YouTube links to ROIOs, so here's the audio with some sci-fi images someone posted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLkVYQBGGRA. (Hoops, if I'm wrong, please delete]. This link includes some video interpretations of a number of the other old demos as well. Check them out before you buy one of those compilations.
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 22:30:25 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
Someone posting under the name "Beaubo" had this to say the other day about touring:
"Steely's 93 tour started in Detroit with a bunch of Becker and Fagen solo songs, a bunch of deep cuts....and a wave of panic that hit hit the band's management and promoters, as the WHOLE show represented a 'bathroom break' for fans!!!!!!! By the time the show rolled into Cleveland a couple of months later,the set was 'ethnically cleansed' and a quasi-greatest hits show was offered up to an adoring crowd.
Steely 09 represented another lesson for the band- tour started in Durham at a small venue, and apparently the band thinking was small venue=more discerning crowd= more adventurous set. Yet, three dates into the tour , sayanora to 'My Rival, Here At The Western World, Godwhacker, 2vN.
No one will begrudge a band leaving out a hit because there are just too many damn hits to squeeze into a show. Most people understand the trade-off of sacrificing a couple of hits to allow for new material and a couple of deep cuts (Eagles, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Seger have that formula nailed!), but if a band crosses that delicate threshold and nukes TOO many hits from the setlist, they risk their touring lifeblood, which is fan retention and loyalty.
Get used to Steely hits, in fact REVEL in them, CELEBRATE them, because without them, there would be no Steely Dan tours 93-09."
I've been thinking about this thesis for a few days and have concluded that Beaubo's conclusion -- get used to Hey 19, etc., suck it up -- is dead wrong. Let me try and explain why.
In his original post, Beaubo says that bands like Sad Cafe failed to make it because their tours were full of obscurities. Well, maybe. But to compare Sad Cafe with SD is dead wrong: not because Sad Cafe was a bad band, but one that lacked SD's recognizability with the record and ticket buying public. SC never achieved the kind of breakthrough critical/commercial success that SD did with Aja. This isn't to say that SC's a bad band, only that to compare them with SD is a kind of apples-and-oranges comparison. A better comparison would be to the Doobies or to the Eagles, bands that I could really care less about, because, unlike SD, they haven't recorded any new music of any significance in decades, and are playing greatest-hits shows, over and over again. As a result, the venues they are playing get smaller and smaller every time. State fairs anybody? The acts re-create the "studio sound" of their greatest hits or shmaltz it up, a la Mike McDonald, who opened for SD in 2008 and was painful to watch on his own -- every crisp hit dragged out to six and a half minutes of flaccid "jamming" -- save for his undeniably great voice.
Tours obviously have to make money for musicians. Who wants to endure bad hotel food, time zone changes, press interviews, etc. out of the goodness of one's heart? Not Walt and Don, that's for sure. What did Walter say recently? "We get $400,000 a night and I don't care who knows it," or words to that effect. But I think a case could be made for playing a show of newer and solo material that would definitely be profitable, even in a limited number of markets, along the lines of the Donald Fagen Band shows in 2006. As far as I know, this tour made money. Maybe not as much money as an SD tour, but it was definitely profitable. Over half the material played on that tour would definitely qualify as "deep cuts." And that tour was well attended.
I think a show of more recent material -- Morph, Circus, the last two SD albums, etc. -- would be profitable if held at mid-size venues in major urban markets like NYC, Chicago, Boston & etc. I would definitely travel from the rainy Pacific NW to see such a set, and I'm betting lots of other die-hard fans would, too.
Finally, there's the mental fatigue that comes of playing your Greatest Hits night after night. The Doobies and the Eagles definitely have this problem, which is why their recent live recordings sound tired, old and draggy. No ambitious musician wants to do the same thing over and over and over again. Walter and Donald are smart guys, and I'm betting they'd rather play new (to them) material than crank out the likes of Hey 19! or Kid Charlemagne again and again and again. I'm betting that Walter and Donald, freed from Azoff's iron hand, would rather emulate the Ellington Orchestra, with its crazy mix of old and new tunes side by side, than the likes of the Eagles or recent Michael McDonald.
Just my two cents.
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 22:24:44 ET
Posted by: JJ,
big"D"- Did I have to spell it out? OFFICIALLY released!
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 22:24:05 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
There was an old demo called "Android Warehouse" which had nothing to do with Caves of Altamira. I believe it was mislabeled on one of the "Furry Years" compilations. [http://www.steelydan.com/furry.html] There is also a primitive version of "Caves" from that era.
Some of these discarded tunes are pretty decent, others are skeletal and/or true throwaways. I like Sun Mountain, Yellow Peril, the DF version of Brooklyn (with an extra verse), Brain Tap Shuffle, Come Back Baby (Donald on alto sax!), Mock Turtle Song (WB lead vox, lyrics from Lewis Carroll, not bad), a few others. They don't sound much like latter-day SD, but have a certain similarity to the CBAT sound.
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 21:55:08 ET
Posted by: big"D", detroit
if android warehouse has never been released how did i get a copy?i just got done listening to both and they share many similarities.it's one of my favorite songs.i like android for its raw simplicity,caves because its very much the glamed up version of android.hey df&wb can you hear me through this old ham radio.if you can what gives?? could you share a little light on this subject.e-mail me,thanks.
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 21:27:34 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
Pearl of the Quarter is one of my fave songs of all time, not just SD. I want to learn pedal steel just to play that damn song!
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 20:59:42 ET
Posted by: steelyfez, CT_NYC
Deacon Blues16 good work, this list is accurate.
These have not been played live since 1993 when Steely Dan began touring again.
The only cut I personally have not heard live so far is My Rival. I missed the Gaucho night in NYC, I was out of town.
Pixeleen was played twice in Scranton and Camden in 06. I was fortunate enough to have been in Scranton for that one.
I would love to hear any of the tunes below at any time.
I voted for Your Gold Teeth in Boston but it didn't make the cut.
Almost Gothic was played in New Mexico once in 00'
Pearl Of The Quarter has never been played. Perhaps that will change.
- Kings
- Only A Fool Would Say That
- Fire in the Hole
- Change of the Guard
- Brooklyn (Owes the Charmer Under Me)
- Turn that Heartbeat Over Again
- Razor Boy
- Your Gold Teeth
- Pearl of the Quarter
- King of the World
- Barrytown
- Through With Buzz
- With A Gun
- Charlie Freak
- Rose Darling
- Your Gold Teeth II
- Throw Back the Little Ones
- Negative Girl
- Green Book
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 18:06:59 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Matt- How could Android Warehouse be re-worked when it was never released in the first place?
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 17:52:28 ET
Posted by: Renee, Richards
Raj - that due to ballage danglage?
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 16:55:21 ET
Posted by: Denise, down the cape
Prez Logic, we wondered if you would make an appearance this time around. Missed you in Boston.
Regarding "reworked" songs...for some reason I sense a link between Fall of 92 and Slang of Ages. Maybe it's just me.
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 15:52:41 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the quick
Thanks to all who emailed about the spam this morning. I have a huge deadline this Sunday so I'm not able to follow the Blue so closely. Much appreciated.
Best wishes and many thanks,
Jim
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 14:34:59 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
G Jetson, not sure about the cut of your jib.
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 13:50:31 ET
Posted by: Chip,
Went to the Detroit show this past Saturday. I had been reading posts about "casino shows" and the length only being 90 minutes.When I got to my seat which was top row and the furthest away I have ever been I asked one of the ushers If i Could upgrade. I told her that the venue didn't look at all like it does on the website!! They were willing to move me closer but there would have been obtructed.I was content with my eat there were people willing to stand the whole time.All in all a great show it alway is. I always meet the greatest people, we are all fans and will drive hours to see a show. I keep reading about a show in Akron, does someone know something I don't. That would be outstanding, EJ.Thomas would be a perfect venue, excellent sound system.Set list was good till hav'nt heard Dr WU live, maybe next time.
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 13:43:27 ET
Posted by: G. Jetson, Astro Not
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
Turn That Hearbeat Over Again, Razor Boy, King Of The World, Any Major Dude, Charlie Freak, Night By Night, Kings, Rose Darling, Any World That I'm Welcome To, Throw Back The Little Ones...
All of this or GTFO!
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 10:54:26 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I can't seem to get anything right lately, I used to be so on it, but I'm so happy and grateful that there are you beautiful young people to set me straight. Lead me on. I will follow...
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 10:08:46 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks for the heads-up Gus.
So in fact they will do few
more Internet Request Nights!
That's awesome!
A Sunday & Wednesday is going
to be tough to make. Guess
there is always "sick days".
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 09:37:05 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, TN
Android Warehouse was absolutely not reworked as Caves of Altamira.
Date: Wed, September 09, 2009, 00:05:00 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
These dates are now official on steelydan.com
Oct 20 - San Jose CA - SJ Civic Aud | Aja (Plus) | AMEX presale 9/14 - general on sale 9/21
Oct 21 - San Jose CA - SJ Civic Aud | Internet Request | AMEX presale 9/14 - general on sale 9/21
Oct 27 - Phoenix AZ - Dodge Theatre | Aja (Plus) | on sale 9/21
Nov 8 - Minneapolis MN - Northrop Aud | Aja (Plus) | on sale 9/11
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 21:59:04 ET
Posted by: big "D", detroit
any body know how long BECKER AND FAGEN GREATEST HITS VOL 1 has been around.i found it several years ago(13)in cassette.would like to hear some of these songs in concert.
ANDROID WAREHOUSE(reworked and renamed as caves of altamira)
A HORSE IN TOWN
MORE TO COME
OH,WOW IT'S YOU AGAIN
STONE PIANO(pure df)
YELLOW PERIL
TAKE IT OUT ON ME(great lyrics)
BRAINTAP SHUFFLE
THE MOCK TURTLE SONG
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 21:55:59 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland
My guess is that Akron shows would be at EJ Thomas Hall, far better acoustics, sight lines.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 21:55:12 ET
Posted by: Found, It
Live Nation listing Phoenix on Oct. 27.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 21:09:27 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Rajah, Ruby Baby was played the first show of the tour in SC 1996.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 20:35:31 ET
Posted by: prez logic, @ the altar of the schedule Gods
Hoping to redeem myself during Leg 2 for the no-show during Leg 1...
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 19:33:19 ET
Posted by: KD, o-l-l
To play five Becker songs from an album that is a year away from being released on your USA Today/Rolling Stone-hyped "reunion" tour takes big, brass ones. To say nothing of the 'Kamakiriad' medley that took place close to the close of the show. I love and defend Kama, put it on par with 'Nightfly' and 'Morph' (ducking), but you're playing to 12,000 people, and maybe (as popular and well received as that disc was) 2000 fans in the building had that album at that point. Maybe.
Those early setlists were nuts. In a good way.
This is the first time I've seen SD twice in one tour, and I have to say I was a bit bummed in not getting to see Walter take the mic. I know he's not everyone's favorite, but I love his voice and approach, and his takes on Dan songs (Midnite, Monkey, Haitian, Gaucho) have long been my go-to mp3 listen from unofficial sources when I go back to pick and choose what I want to hear above all. I mean that, and I missed it last week.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 18:41:15 ET
Posted by: web, update
Minneapolis date now on steelydan.com. Aja.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 17:51:34 ET
Posted by: wormy, nola
found my posting from setlist from New Orleans May 6th 2007 show
courtesy of St Al's yellow
SETLIST
SIMILAR but ABBREV from Memphis
TAN, BS, TooM, Janie Runaway, Hey 19, Walt on Monkey, Peg, Green Earrings, Dirty Work (girls), Josie (with band intros at end), Do It Again, Kid CHar, encore Bodi (left 5 minutes on the table)
it was hot and humid, Don was in great voice, sound would have been perfect if Freddie's bass wasn't so loud and distorted (pianos too low also) Local sound does the fests.
DOn and Walt were humorous and engaged the crowd
Walt
"who's up next? Harry Connick JR Sr (which one?)
don't like that guy since he dished Sigourney Weaver in that movie"
can't wait for a full set and a seat in Atlanta (May 11,2007)
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 17:40:24 ET
Posted by: wormtom, nola
multi show opinions 2009
I saw three shows this year
Orange Beach (an early show) Memphis (late leg) Detroit (last in summer)
Personally I thought the Memphis show was the best of the three
Lots of energy from the band, perfect venue on Island in Mississippi river with Memphis skyline behind, sophisticated audience, great sound and playing - Any Major Dude
Orange Beach was high energy - tight playing - especially early in tour and if I recall - two encores in the heat - Deacon Blue to Alabama crowd - lots of beer guzzling southern boys #2
Detroit - casino show - Don's voice was not his full inflective self (maybe too much from 3 nights in Chicago before that) and he was embellishing more than usual - some off key and weak. The enthusiasm wasn't up there as much. Set list less imaginative although Dirty Work was nice #3
would like to hear from those who caught the album and request nights or multi nights spread out in other cities
why are the dan doing casinos??? larger takes?
it's really an artistic letdown - but I guess it's great they are playing at all
same old setlists are getting old and wtf with no tan or emg???
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 17:28:53 ET
Posted by: wormtom, nola
Hi Angel!
contrary to wishful thinking (or unless my memory really has failed)
Steely Dan did NOT play Pearl of the Quarter at Jazzfest in New Orleans
they played a very abbreviated set (around 90 minutes if I recall) and that certainly was not in it
look for my posts from around late May 2007 at the yellow
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 17:08:43 ET
Posted by: Bob's Yer Uncle, Minneapolis
Steely Dan Northrup Auditorium Minneapolis, U of Minn campus.
Sun. Nov. 8, 7:30 p.m.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 17:05:05 ET
Posted by: Bob's Yer Uncle, Minneapolis
Steely dan in Minneapolis! No date given but local radio station giving away tickets already today ...location U of M Northrup Auditorium.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 16:33:04 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, staring at the skyline of Houston
Just a few quick notes in passing, as I am studying hard for my second fantasy football draft in a week's time, and this one is cut-throat, unlike the other. (Begs the question, "Am I crazy, am I high?")
Thursday night was a lovefest from the moment we walked into Petterino's. I was so happy to see some old friends (dif, Jude, and the holy trinity of hoops, Pete and Shari) and meet some new ones. So, it started out good and got much better, as once inside the theater, we ran into Earthbound and his lovely wife, Joe and KellyRae, Brooke and Doc Kelly, just to mention a few.
The audience was so into the show...simply amazing! I'll leave the musical commentary to those more articulate in that regard, as I am more a human interaction observationist. It always amazes me how much a crowd fuels a performance and D&W acknowledged this show by giving us a double thumbs up at the end of the evening. I had a great view of Jim Pugh and the only thing I can tell you is that he is one hard working man! Another note: the horn section was kinda shuffling along to the music at times when they weren't spotlighted, which made me smile.
SIDE NOTE: I am one of the lucky souls to have been at Roseland '03 (bof nights), Soboba, Soboba, Soboba (one memorable night in '06), Maui and Honolulu '03, Camden '06 (doesn't get much mention here, but those who were there, know of what I speak) and this show rates right up there with the best of the best.
On Friday, the pre-show get together was infused with much anticipation for internet request night and who wouldn't be excited with the multitude of possibilities we might hear. Alas, the section we were sitting in (right front-6th row) must have mistaken the SD show for the symphony. Do not misunderstand, the evening WAS enjoyable and Wu sounded deeper, richer and more soulful than in NYC. But, I honestly did not see one person standing on the entirety of the floor, and when I finally did stand up, at Kid C, I was told by security that if I did not sit in my seat, I would be thrown out. Gentle reader, keep in mind that I am one of the "elderly security" thanks, Mark, I l*u*v ya for that!) folk at my nearby shed and in my years in that position, I've seen a lot of bad behavior by all types of bodies and age ranges and still have never thrown anyone out for standing at a show. Post-encore redemption was not to be had and I was kinda relieved when the night ended and I could go somewhere and not be harrassed. Sorry to have missed the post-show festivities. We had to be up at an unholy hour to board the so appropriately named Wolverine for Detroit!!
(to be continued)
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 16:04:59 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Lurker Ray:
Guess it depended on where one was sitting last friday night in Chicago. We were up in the lower balcony and there was no talking and nary a soul taking a potty-break , as I recall.
I thought it was a great show even with Donald's brain farts and the stalker-chick down front.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 15:30:20 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, Ohio
Cmon Joey/ Some of the stuff you post is pretty funny but I will defend the Fan your speaking of. She is obviously a Danfan which means she deserves some respect. I am 6 foot and 160 and I could stare at Donald all nite/ no I am not gay I just think he is the man like most of us on the blue. To the sweetheart staring at Donald/ God bless you my friend/ any friend of Don and Walts is a friend of mine.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 14:57:01 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Nice research y'all. I don't think Ruby Baby was played until Donald's solo tour a couple years ago. He did a nice turn at Carnegie Hall with Jon and a full orchestra in late 07, that was nice.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 14:52:06 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Dr Wu - People running for the bathrooms, twice as many as Hollywood. Too bad. That’s all folks. You will not hear this track again. Count on it. Creepy fat stalker broad went down front and stared at Donald the whole time. She also did this during “Don’t Take Me Alive”! Too creepy. Didn’t dance, just stared at Donald with some sort of “literature” in her hands. "
This makes Joey very sad .
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 14:30:34 ET
Posted by: Your Hypothetical Friend,
R.I.P. Francis Rogallo, age 97
Go rent a paranymphic glider in his memory:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09251/996324-122.stm
Or surf and/or die. Your choice.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 14:16:40 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Christopher Walken – “We Need More Woodblock” – Internet Request Night – Chicago – Theatre – September 4, 2009
If the crowd in Hollywood was “older” for Internet Request Night, Chicago was “ancient”. You would have thought that there would be tour buses from retirement homes as far away as Elgin out front. Or perhaps WGN’s Wally Phillips would climb out of his grave and introduce the show. Before the show even started there was a “medical emergency” and the paramedics were in full force after the show as we filed out. Even Donald was showing his age Friday night, he had a brain fart and forgot what night it was! “Oh yeah, it’s Internet Request Night” said a befuddled Fagen.
The Chicago Theatre, beautiful as always, but hey just the same as the Beacon, “Old & Historic” does not equal “Great Sound”. But Keith’s “Woodblock” was loud & clear! Way too loud. It cut like a knife through the sound mix all night. Never heard so many people talking during a Steely Dan show than I heard in Chicago.
Why even go to the show? What a waste of money. Nor have I ever seen so many people constantly leaving their seats. And this was Internet Request Night. The crowd (that actually watched the show) was appreciative but not near the “roar” we heard often on the first two nights in LA.
They cheered the loudest for anything off of Aja. And only in Chicago do they cheer the melodica (I loved that). I think management is making a terrible mistake by not offering a “Gaucho” Night for the Fall Leg. Just because it didn’t sell well in Chitown & perhaps NYC. Gaucho night was packed in LA and the top show of the four night run. That’s why I am taking a pass on San Fran. I would gladly go just to hear “My Rival” - the song is so badass or “Dr Wu”. From what it looks like, they will only be doing 3 types of shows for the Fall Leg, “Aja”, “Royal Scam” and what they are calling a regular “Steely Dan” night. It appears that “Internet Request” will be going bye-bye as well as Larry Carlton. I hope they add Larry for a few dates.
A few random thoughts -
Black Friday- So appropo to start a show in Chicago with some Blues –Larry was slicing much more gut bucket than Jon.
Dirty Work – After, Donald called David Palmer, “The Who Looking Dude”. Another senior moment, he couldn’t think of Roger Daltery’s name. Usually it’s the British with the whack grill!
Dr Wu - People running for the bathrooms, twice as many as Hollywood. Too bad. That’s all folks. You will not hear this track again. Count on it. Creepy fat stalker broad went down front and stared at Donald the whole time. She also did this during “Don’t Take Me Alive”! Too creepy. Didn’t dance, just stared at Donald with some sort of “literature” in her hands. Hands down LA had the best take of the Dr Wu run, but man has Walt W. made this tune his own. I actually thought the outro almost surpassed the LA take of Dr Wu. Walt W just went into Interstellar Space at the end Friday night. Bravo.
Do It Again – Can’t get enough of Larry Carlton on this tune!
Itchin’ - Extended Pugh work because Walter Becker gave this Champaign/Urbana resident an extended take. The music that man gets out the bone. Just tremendous.
Parkers Band – Donald called the band, “Raiders Of The Lost 70’s” & gave a shout out to Charlie Parker’s birthday just few days ago.
Larry on Bodhisattva & Reeling (wah-wah) was worth the price of admission alone.
Looking forward to Temecula & Indio! Should be a great weekend.
DB16 – You need to get out more often ;O)
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 14:14:14 ET
Posted by: Lebron's, Hometown
Likely Akron venue.
http://www.akroncivic.com/
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 14:08:40 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, Outside the Masonic Auditorium
My boys are coming to the bay area!
Weekend shows to, none of that weekday stuff around here.
I'm a bit surprised they are not jumping down the road and doing a Portland date. Given it's close proximity to Seattle and the availability of venues, it would make sense they pad their pocketbooks a little given the opportunity. Instead they jump all the way down to Cali.
Here is the Masonic's seating chart:
http://www.masonicauditorium.com/pdf/Seating_Chart.pdf
Very intimate venue (3165 seats). Most seats are great, although the higher in the balcony the sight lines are obstructed by the folks down front and the angle of the balcony rail/wall. Acoustics are ok, but given the size of the play and the Dan's mastery, should be a great evening.
Can't wait!
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 12:57:22 ET
Posted by: Masonic, Auditorium
Assuming those San Francisco dates pan out, it looks like you could have an interesting view from the side of the stage.
http://www.masonicauditorium.com/images/auditorium3.jpg
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 12:24:50 ET
Posted by: BillfromPgh,
DB16 - great work.
There were a couple one-off NYC shows in 1995 which included Do It Again and East St. Louis Toodle-Oo, as I recall.
Also don't forget this years 3rd arrangement of Reelin' (club mix). I would have liked to hear that with Larry Carlton, but the 72 version is much more of a crowd pleaser and it's always welcome in my book. I liked the 93/AIA version, too.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 11:11:35 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Raj - I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Wetside Story and Cash Only Island (along with Jack of Speed) were introduced during the '96 tour. The Manassas boot has Wetside Story and JOS on it. I heard Cash Only Island at the Va. Beach show that year.
Who knows... we might hear some re-worked version or groove from WS and/or COI on an upcoming studio effort. On their own, they're really not bad songs though IMO.
By the way, "Raj" and "Rajah" are both high scoring Scrabble words!
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 10:50:17 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Should be at work and instead I am scrolling through the archives...
No Pearl on the Quarter at NOLA. My mistake.
I must have taken all the wishful thinking, as fact. :-)
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 10:48:12 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
I personally don't consider Bodhisattva and Babylon Sisters deep cuts. Using that logic, what hits didn't they play? Rikki Don't Lose that Number and Do It Again are the only ones that come to mind. I think by that logic Dirty Work wouldn't be considered a hit. Also, I'm not sure if Peg was part of that particular setlist, but I'm pretty sure that was played on the 1993 tour.
I have a breakdown of what songs were added each year. I could be incorrect about this stuff, as usual. I have put The Nightfly tunes in parenthesis because those technically are not part of the "official" 82 songs. However, I did feel that those tunes were relevant enough for the purposes of this list to include as opposed to the 11 Tracks of Whack/Kamakiriad tunes and otherwise experimental tunes (eg Wet Side Story), which I have not added. (Basically, I'm trying to narrow it down to official SD tunes only, but because The Nightfly was part of that era I'm including it anyway albeit in parenthesis). Here you go:
1993
- Peg (Previously Instrumental)
- Deacon Blues
- Josie
- Hey Nineteen
- Home At Last
- Chain Lightning
- Green Earrings
- Black Friday
- Bodhisattva
- Babylon Sisters
- Reelin’ in the Years (Reworked Version)
- Third World Man
- My Old School
- FM
- (IGY)
- (Green Flower Street)
1994
- Kid Charlemagne
- Aja (Previously Instrumental)
- Sign in Stranger (Reworked Version)
1996
- Do It Again
- Everyone’s Gone to the Movies
- Bad Sneakers (Previously Instrumental)
- Any Major Dude Will Tell You
- Rikki Don’t Lose that Number
- Glamour Profession
- Black Cow
- Don’t Take Me Alive
- Midnight Cruiser
- East St. Louis Toodle-Oo
- (Ruby Baby) - Was this one played?
2000
- The Boston Rag
- Night By Night
- Monkey in Your Soul
- Daddy Don’t Live in that New York City No More
- Dirty Work
- The Royal Scam (Previously Instrumental)
- Janie Runaway
- Jack of Speed (Two Against Nature Version)
- Cousin Dupree
- West of Hollywood
- Almost Gothic (Wasn’t this done at one single show?)
- What A Shame About Me (Was this performed anywhere besides the Two Against Nature DVD?)
- Gaslighting Abbie
2003
- The Caves of Altamira
- Parker’s Band (Previously Instrumental)
- Haitian Divorce
- Time Out of Mind
- Godwhacker
- Slang of Ages
- Things I Miss the Most
- Everything Must Go
- Lunch with Gina
- The Last Mall
- Blues Beach
2006
- I Got the News
- Show Biz Kids
- Pretzel Logic (This one is a very interesting case. I know it was part of NYRASR set. I think it has been sprinkled in to various Steely Dan sets over the years, but as far as I'm aware, it has never been a regular in any set, besides NYRASR and DF's 2006 tour. I felt like this would be a good place to include it).
- Any World (That I’m Welcome To)
2007
- Pixeleen (Might Have Been Done Previously)
- Two Against Nature (Might Have Been Done Previously)
(Still some debate about Pearl of the Quarter, so not officially included)
2008
- Everything You Did
- Gaucho
- (New Frontier) - Part of DF's 2006 set.
2009
- My Rival
- The Fez (Previously Instrumental)
- Here at the Western World (Original Version; Reworked version during DF's 2006 tour)
- Doctor Wu
- Reelin’ in the Years Original
- Sign in Stranger Original
(Also of note: DF lead vocals on Haitian Divorce & Gaucho, which were previously sung by Walter. Version of Rikki Don't Lose that Number truer to original than 1996 version).
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 10:29:49 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, Ohio
Akron!! Tell Klaus its not true. This shit is like dope I will prob be divorced. Joey help!!
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 10:16:20 ET
Posted by: Me, Here
http://www.broberg.pp.se/sd_concerts.htm
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 10:16:01 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Beaubo - Steely Dan/Walter Becker have never preformed Ghost of Hipness Past in concert. Not sure where you got that one from.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 09:45:43 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland
Pittsburgh, Star Lake, 1993, also an early show
1) Overture: Scam, Bad Sneakers, Aja medley
2) Green Earrings DEEP CUT
3) Bodhisattva DEEP CUT
4) IGY
5) Josie
6) Hey 19
7) Book of Liars BECKER/ZERO EXPOSURE
8) Cringemaker OBSCURE
9) Chain Lightning DEEP CUT
10) Ghost of Hipness Past (unreleased WB) BECKER/ZERO EXPOSURE
11) Green Flower Street FAGEN/DEEP CUT
12) True Companion OBSCURE
13) Black Friday
14) Tomorrow's Girls
15) Deacon Blues
16) Babylon Sisters DEEP CUT
17)Reelin In the Years
18) Fall of '92 OBSCURE
19) Girlfriend BECKER/ZERO EXPOSURE
20) Third World Man DEEP CUT
21) Trans Island Skyway/Countermoon/Teahouse on the Tracks FAGEN/DEEP CUTS
22) My Old School
23) FM
15 out of 23 songs NOT in the mainstream of SD catalogue is indeed a mega'-bathroom break' to managers/promoters.
I was thrilled with that show because I'm a hardcore fan, but the other 7 people who went with me, were far from satisfied.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 09:34:08 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
There are plenty of "hits" in that early 1993 setlist, I have no idea why the "management" went crazy.
See:
Bodhisattva
IGY
Josie
Hey 19
Black Friday
Deacon Blues
Babylon Sisters
Reelin In the Years
Third World Man
My Old School
FM
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 09:29:20 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
I believe this is the correct setlist for Pittsburgh, Star Lake, 1993, also an early show
1) Overture: Scam, Bad Sneakers, Aja medley
2) Green Earrings
3) Bodhisattva
4) IGY
5) Josie
6) Hey 19
7) Book of Liars
8) Cringemaker
9) Chain Lightning
10) Ghost of Hipness Past (unreleased WB)
11) Green Flower Street
12) True Companion
13) Black Friday
14) Tomorrow's Girls
15) Deacon Blues
16) Babylon Sisters
17)Reelin In the Years
18) Fall of '92
19) Girlfriend
20) Third World Man
21) Trans Island Skyway/Countermoon/Teahouse on the Tracks
22) My Old School
23) FM
Got this info off of an old recording I have, believe it is pretty accurate
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 08:33:09 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Mike, I don't know where a setlist of the 1993-4 shows might be found but I can tell you with some degree of certainty that a song called Wetside Story was played and Donald claimed they were going to record the song in the then near future. Never happened, if it did, I never heard it. Book of Liars from Walter's 94 album, Sign in Stranger with some altered lyrics, All Too Mobile Home as well I believe. We complain about the lack of deep cuts but bee-bo has a point there, it's dangerous ground for a classic act like Steely Dan to go too far afield in live performance selections. Regular fans want to hear the well-worn chestnuts, it's just inescapable fact. So we pay our money and we pretty much know what's coming. At least we're not buying a pig in a poke as we used to say in Ohio, some consolation in that.
As for the Dallas-Saill the Water Way discussion, hey, these were recorded and relesed as their very first single then unceremoniously pulled by ABC records. Can't really unring that bell, they must count in the discography, their unwillingness to include them on Citizen Steely Dan notwithstanding. Speaking of which, Citizen Steely Dan is lacking sooo much stuff, stuff they obviously didn't want on there, OK. But don't tell me it's a complete collection, that's just not true.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 07:45:47 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
Beaubo writes: <<<Steely's 93 tour started in Detroit with a bunch of Becker and Fagen solo songs, a bunch of deep cuts....and a wave of panic that hit hit the band's management and promoters, as the WHOLE show represented a 'bathroom break' for fans>>>
Interesting. Can you point to a setlist for this show? Thanks.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 07:00:21 ET
Posted by: I. Must, disagree
Pearl of the Quarter was NOT played in New Orleans. Can someone settle this dispute?
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 02:23:37 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland
Fastway, Sad Cafe, Fee Waybill...just a few bands I grabbed from my early 80s collection. They all have a fantasic selection of 'deep cuts'. Why? Because they never made it.
'Deep Cuts' invariably implies that a band has enough critical mass of 'hits' and longevity and sustained popularity that they have the luxury having a portion of their fan bass appreciate that some of their non-hits have transcended 'filler material' and transformed into 'deep cuts'.
In other words, without all the top 40 resume, a band with a chockfull of 'deep cuts' is otherwise known as obscure or outta business.
Steely Dan's hit catalogue is its reason d etre to tour. If you don't believe it, check out Todd Rundgren and Joe Jackson's touring stats. They were 'purists' who only played their most current albums in total, 'deep cuts' from earlier albums and when they deigned to play a 'hit', they rweworked the song into utter lack of recognizability. Both are essentially irrelevant on the touring circuit. Other bands don't even NEED new product to maintain a touring presence because they recognize their fan base, NOT their own self-indulgence or their fan fringe (ie-the bluebooks of the world cohort) as the key to their continued viability.
As such, a normal fan base profile is someone who goes to ONE show per tour, maybe TWO out of every three tours over time, who associates the music as much with its quality as with its nostalgia (ie- I remember first time I heard Hey 19, I was...fill in the blank).
Steely's 93 tour started in Detroit with a bunch of Becker and Fagen solo songs, a bunch of deep cuts....and a wave of panic that hit hit the band's management and promoters, as the WHOLE show represented a 'bathroom break' for fans!!!!!!! By the time the show rolled into Cleveland a couple of months later,the set was 'ethnically cleansed' and a quasi-greatest hits show was offered up to an adoring crowd.
Steely 09 represented another lesson for the band- tour started in Durham at a small venue, and apparently the band thinking was small venue=more discerning crowd= more adventurous set. Yet, three dates into the tour , sayanora to 'My Rival, Here At The Western World, Godwhacker, 2vN.
No one will begrudge a band leaving out a hit because there are just too many damn hits to squeeze into a show. Most people understand the trade-off of sacrificing a couple of hits to allow for new material and a couple of deep cuts (Eagles, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Seger have that formula nailed!), but if a band crosses that delicate threshold and nukes TOO many hits from the setlist, they risk their touring lifeblood, which is fan retention and loyalty.
Get used to Steely hits, in fact REVEL in them, CELEBRATE them, because without them, there would be no Steely Dan tours 93-09.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2009, 00:36:17 ET
Posted by: suedave, Seattle
DeaconBlues16 - LOVED seeing the stats - I was curious. Thank you! Did anyone happen to get late results from the Boston voting stats?
I was lucky enough to see & hear quite a few shows this year - at first I was somewhat disappointed with the lack of new material, then it changed it grew and then I knew that I really got to see very special shows - all three album nights and internet request night. At first I was thought I was hearing mostly the same stuff in different order, and then I realized that hearing some of these songs in a different order even night to night changed the energy of each show. My take on opening with Kid C was that it brought a great energy to the start of the show - I liked it a lot. Loved the mix ups in the internet request nights and especially the new and/or rarely heard material.
I'm looking forward to seeing my hometown shows - guys- please please please swap Chain Lightning into the set list. Wouldn't mind if you add a jam in the middle of that song like I remember hearing in 1994. Throw me another curve - I think I'm ready. I've got no issues if you leave off Dallas/Sail and all the unreleased material out of the setlists - though if I had to choose from them all I'd go for Kulee Baba (though Green Book would be better).
Seattle people - please sign up for the seattle danfest mailing list if you want to get together before/after the show. Some of us might have to pretend we're young to stay up late on a weeknight.
I'll ditto the thanks Hoops for all you do!
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 23:27:01 ET
Posted by: Dif, Champaign
ed_beatty: "What a night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" My sentiments exactly.
And evidently Fagen's as well.
angel: The ubiquitous angel...The band keeps getting better
and better. Don't you think? I miss your "chat" imput.
Come back to us, please.
Jim: Thank you again for everything that you do.
It was great to meet the likes of Noah, Mike, LWO
(second time around for you, party girl), Keith and Mrs.
Earthbound, and of course the Jazzman for lunch on
Saturday.
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 21:30:29 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @home
I'd agree with the offical scorer, I'd disqualify Dallas and Sail, due to their exclusion from the box set.
The show closer from '74, This All Too Mobile Home, which is great, would also be unlikely to show up in light of their current touring status.
KC
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 20:27:53 ET
Posted by: big"D", DETROIT
hey-klause and the rooster,glad you made it to the detroit show.i have seen the dan many times and i also thought that saturdays show was one of there best.i don't think anyone who was there was disappointed.i was a little concerned that after 4 shows in 5 nites and being the lst stop on the 1st leg,that well you know,just going through the motions.but that wasn't the case at all.they were way better than good.the sound board theatre had a lot to do with it.other posts complained about the l.v. shows and maybe rightfully so.i can tell you one thing for certain,the dan rocked detroit.everyone was talking about how good the show was when it was over.
as for the tigers,there on a roll at the right time.leyland is putting all the pieces together and pulling all the right strings.detroits on fire with tiger baseball.everybody is talking about the tigers.playoffs for sure.world series who knows?anything can happen.ernie harwell would say,"go get'um tigers".
p.s. i hope who ever posted about a london canada show is right because its only about 100 miles from the big "D".yes i'll be there.
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 20:11:19 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Thanks for that tidbit, Angel. I wonder if that's the only time they've ever played that song? It wasn't on the aforementioned 52 song set.
CJB:
Some of the stuff they played in the early 70s but not since 1993 besides Brooklyn included Barrytown, King of the World, and sort of Your Gold Teeth II (a short instrumental). I realize you and most everyone here knows this. Out of their 1970s touring days, the 1974 setlist is pretty uniform and the most widely known. Do you or anyone else know some of the SD songs that were played on the 72 and 73 tours? I wonder if Razor Boy or Kings ever made a performance. I've read that Fire in the Hole was played in 1972, but other than that, I have not found much information regarding what SD tunes were played on these tours besides the obvious.
Rajah:
I like those two songs; I just don't know if they're official enough to be considered part of the primary catalogue. Out of all the ones I didn't include, I would say that those are the closest to being included. However, adding them doesn't really change much as far as the percentage goes; it just changes the total from 82 to 84. And I don't expect them to ever play those particular tunes, but like I said before, you never know.
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 19:45:30 ET
Posted by: Official Scorer, All things Steely
I think by leaving Dallas/STWW off of Citizen, they've effectively been removed from the official discography.
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 19:30:40 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
Four of my favorite songs are at the very bottom of that list:
41. Pretzel Logic (Tie) 3
41. Here At the Western World (Tie) 3
43. The Boston Rag (Tie) 1
43. Chain Lightning (Tie) 1
I'll be somewhere in the first ten or twenty rows at both Seattle nights, but it's kind of depressing to think that, statistically speaking, I'll probably have heard most, if not all, of the night's songs before. That said, there are a finite number of times left in my life to hear World's Best Touring Band, and I'd like to take advantage of every opportunity.
As to those unplayed-since-1993 numbers: "Brooklyn" sure sounds good on those early 70s dates I've procured from a "source." As to more recent stuff, despite what DF says, I'd be front row and centre at a "Two Against Nature (Plus)" night, and, I'm betting, so would lots of you. "What a Shame," "West of," and "Jack" all sounded great live in the early 2000s, and it'd be nice to hear them again, instead of, say, "Hey 19," which I could live comfortably without ever hearing live again, Walt's rap and all.
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 19:02:51 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
It is 82 indeed. Nice job DC16. But we really should count Dallas and Sail the Waterway, don't you think?
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 17:56:25 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @home
I didn't get to see the video where D & W talked about the request night, but considering that between the LA & Chicago request shows there was only one song different, I personally don't think our voting had much to do with it. I'd like to think otherwise but I just don't think so.
It would be nice to get a real 'deep cuts' show but I think the odds of it are pretty staggering. If I hadn't seen them 19 times before Fridays show, I would have been floored with the show.
KC
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 17:38:33 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
They played Pearl on the Quarter at Jazzfest in NOLA.
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 17:26:48 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Thanks, guys.
Moray Eel:
I agree. I could definitely live without hearing Peg, Hey Nineteen, and Josie as part of the setlist. Same to a lesser extent with Black Friday and Kid Charlemagne (because I like the current "Texas-style" version of Black Friday and Kid Charlemagne is my 2nd favorite Steely Dan song). But obviously they have those in the set because they are popular fan favorites guaranteed to get a big response, and they probably like to play those songs more than other fan favorites (eg Rikki Don't Lose that Number). And besides, I don't think they consider the fact that a lot of fans have seen them live multiple times in making their setlist, and they probably don't count on people like me to keep a record of all of their setlists after they've been posted online! But in any event, has there ever been a show where they haven't played Hey Nineteen since 1993 (besides specials)? Same question for Kid Charlemagne but change 1993 to 1994.
Rajah:
By my count, there are 82 "Official" Steely Dan tunes. By official, I mean only stuff on their 9 studio albums + FM & Here at the Western World. So that doesn't include solo tunes (even though they've played them live on shows before), early demos (the Kenny Vance days), and various other unofficially released stuff (The Second Arrangement, This All Too Mobile Home, Wet Side Story, Kulee Baba etc). Oh, and I'm not counting Dallas or Sail the Waterway either.
So of the 82, I know of 18 songs that they haven't played even once since 1993. (That means they've played about 78% of their officially released since 1993 plus various other solo or "experimental" songs). They are (in chronological order):
- Kings
- Only A Fool Would Say That
- Fire in the Hole
- Change of the Guard
- Brooklyn (Owes the Charmer Under Me)
- Turn that Heartbeat Over Again
- Razor Boy
- Your Gold Teeth
- Pearl of the Quarter
- King of the World
- Barrytown
- Through With Buzz
- With A Gun
- Charlie Freak
- Rose Darling
- Your Gold Teeth II
- Throw Back the Little Ones
- Negative Girl
- Green Book
If a song on there has been played at a particular show, please let me know. And if there are any songs that you think should be on that list, feel free to dispute it. I know at least a few of those were played in the 1970s. Only one of those songs was on the 52 song set voting list (Your Gold Teeth), so I'd say the chances of seeing those songs played live are slim. But you never know. Out of that list, I sure would love to hear Kings, Razor Boy, and Your Gold Teeth II.
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 17:08:13 ET
Posted by: Major Dame, Capital City
I agree with taking some of those tunes out
of the set-list!
I could only see the Chicago shows this year
and it was extremely disappointing. The first two
shoes were good but Request night was a bummer!
I thought finally I would get the chance to hear
some songs I never heard before but to no avail.
Okay, we got Wu and Dude which was fantastic; however,
the rest of the set-list was the same old songs I heard
the other three nights and the other 20 times I've seen
them. It gets old.
I suppose I'll never see them play EMG or other songs
off that album and now I don't see why they would
play songs like night by night now that this special
night tour is over.
I will never spend the kind of money I've been spending
to see them again. Maybe I catch one show on the next
tours but that's about it.
I did get to see six songs I've never heard live and HD DF sang.
So that is the bright side and that was splendid but I am thoroughly disappointed as I thought I had a good chance to hear songs
that I never would on other tours etc.
What is the thoughts on the audience Friday-Chicago? because it must have been people who haven't heard Josie 20 times live etc. because the voting would have been different-it was nothing near the set-list
I voted for and it must have been many folks that have never seen them
before.
Any thoughts folks??
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 17:01:02 ET
Posted by: Goerge, in Paris
DB16 -
Yeoman's work. If my calculator works, that's a total of 794 SD songs at 44 shows, for an average of about 18 SD songs per show. To those of us not in the music business, it sometimes looks easy. But, on reflection, the focus and concentration it takes to play technically demanding songs night after night is quite impressive.
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 16:48:25 ET
Posted by: moray eel, crutch
<<1. Kid Charlemagne (Tie) 44
1. Hey Nineteen (Tie) 44
3. Peg (Tie) 42
3. Black Friday (Tie) 42
3. Josie (Tie) 42>>
I'd like to see them add some new songs to the setlist to replace these ever present tunes. Yes, I'm thankful that they are touring. Yes, the put on a great show in Chicago. If they gave these songs a break for a year or two, perhaps I'd fall in love with them all over again. Even if they were to take 2 or 3 of these out of the set, it would be a refreshing change.
I'd much rather hear SD perform "Dirty Water" than "Peg" at this point.
m.e.
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 16:21:59 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
DC16 - nice work, I appreciate those stats. So by my rough count they played about 57% of their 75 officially released Steely Dan tunes on this tour, maybe 70% all-time including live efforts from the past. They're bearing down, I like the efforts they've made. All those songs should be heard. None of them suck.
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 16:13:26 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando
I confess very mixed emotions about this video of a high school marching band doing "Reelin.'"
On the one hand, pleased that perhaps a new generation of fan will be exposed to the music of SD. On the other hand, ouch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJY8DvZZT40
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 15:57:04 ET
Posted by: Hollywood, West of
October 17 - Indio, CA. Fantasy Spring Casino. -on sale 09/10/09
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 14:42:10 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
This might be of interest to some of you...
This summer I've been maintaining a record of all Steely Dan setlists. Since, the summer leg of the tour has now ended, I offer this list of how frequently songs were played in order. Obviously, there could have been mistakes on my part or errors by the people who reported these sets, but it's the best I've got. (I do think it's accurate, however). Anyway, there were 44 dates in the summer, and the number to the right of the song indicates how many times out of 44 it was played.
1. Kid Charlemagne (Tie) 44
1. Hey Nineteen (Tie) 44
3. Peg (Tie) 42
3. Black Friday (Tie) 42
3. Josie (Tie) 42
6. Aja 40
7. Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More 39
8. Babylon Sisters 34
9. My Old School 33
10. Parker's Band 31
11. Time Out of Mind 28
12. Show Biz Kids 26
13. Reelin' in the Years "Dry and Heavy" (1972) 25
14. Don't Take Me Alive 24
15. Black Cow (Tie) 23
15. Home At Last (Tie) 23
17. Bad Sneakers (Tie) 19
17. Green Earrings (Tie) 19
19. Do It Again (Tie) 18
19. Two Against Nature (Tie) 18
21. Bodhisattva 17
22. Reelin' in the Years "Club Mix" (2009/Tie) 15
22. Dirty Work (Tie) 15
24. Deacon Blues (Tie) 12
24. I Got the News (Tie) 12
26. Glamour Profession 11
27. Third World Man (Tie) 10
27. Godwhacker (Tie) 10
29. Any Major Dude Will Tell You 8
30. FM (Tie) 7
30. Sign in Stranger (Tie) 7
32. Doctor Wu (Tie) 6
32. Rikki Don't Lose that Number (Tie) 6
32. The Royal Scam (Tie) 6
35. Gaucho (Tie) 5
35. The Fez (Tie) 5
35. Haitian Divorce (Tie) 5
35. My Rival (Tie) 5
35. The Caves of Altamira (Tie) 5
35. Everything You Did (Tie) 5
41. Pretzel Logic (Tie) 3
41. Here At the Western World (Tie) 3
43. The Boston Rag (Tie) 1
43. Chain Lightning (Tie) 1
Other songs played: Teenie's Blues, Last Tango in Paris, Love is Like An Itchin' in My Heart at all 44 shows; Dirty Water at the 3 Boston shows
There were 11 songs on the 52 song set internet request night voting list that were not played. They were*:
1. Any World (That I'm Welcome To)
2. Everyone's Gone to the Movies
3. Everything Must Go
4. Gaslighting Abbie
5. Janie Runaway
6. The Last Mall
7. Lunch with Gina
8. Night By Night
9. Slang of Ages
10. Things I Miss the Most
11. Your Gold Teeth
*(Note that Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More, Third World Man, and Time Out of Mind were not on the 52 song set but were played on the tour)
Other notable songs not played and not on the 52 song set list: (By notable, I mean songs that I've seen on various setlists since they began touring in 1993)
-Midnight Cruiser
-Monkey in Your Soul
- Cousin Dupree
- West of Hollywood
- Jack of Speed
- What A Shame About Me
- Almost Gothic
- Pixeleen
- Blues Beach
- Becker/Fagen solo tunes (eg: IGY, New Frontier, Book of Liars...)
Well, there you have it. Maybe this will generate a small discussion.
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 11:34:53 ET
Posted by: Steely Fan, NJ
Live Nation showing Oct 23, 24, 25 in San Francisco. On sale Sept. 14
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 10:31:12 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, Ohio
Hey Big D/ I grew up in Toledo Ohio and have been hard on the city of Detroit on this forum sometimes. To clear up the record; we were treated very well Sat and the Soundboard was a great place to see the Dan. I meant no disrespect and I will remember the Sep 5 show as one of the best Ive seen. And while I am at it Big D if I did not say GO TIGERS!! my father [R.I.P.] would not forgive me.
Date: Mon, September 07, 2009, 08:02:09 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky
LTK, Carlton and Becker traded licks during Josie. They had dual solos during the song both nights. They were intertwined for the majority of the solo. Killer.
It was great to see all of the usual suspects and to make new friends. Chicago treated us wonderfully for the five day stay.
Meeting Warren Haynes after the Scam show was a highlight. He was very cordial and seemed thrilled by the experience. He was rocking a Sly & The Family Stone t-shirt.
Oh, and Mark the bartender at the Elephant and Castle, you're still a douche.
Tommy
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 22:38:06 ET
Posted by: Lonnie The Kingpin, In Transit
Hello one and all ~~
What major solos did Mr. Carlton take in Chicago on internet night? He did different things in LA on Scam night vs. Internet night there.
Did LC take the lead on Josie or did WB keep that for himself?
Thanks.
LTK
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 22:19:59 ET
Posted by: Lippy Freud,
Agreed Raj. I think I stated or atleast intimated that Jon's a terrific/more than competent player.
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 22:13:46 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Thanks for The Great info Zo. Obstructed Beard would be bad. Obstructed Tawatha borders on... well, obstructed Victoria's Secret.
I applaude your hard(?) work to be able to stand up. It killed me to have to sit throughout the last Rent Party I attended. I wanted to go to a rock show.
Thanks for the heads-up about the crew recognition-- a body doesn't hear much about that sort of thing happening. I guess it's like a band getting a Grammy for pop group vocal of the year and four months later not playing the song while on tour. You gotta expect the unexpected in addition to the nothing at all.
Jon Herington DOES LOOK like a nice guy. Probably better to be malleable than tensile because you got too ductile.
Now I'm instrumentally challenged, nuance deaf, and rhythmically illiterate, but maybe Walter Becker sort of lays back in the mix picking and choosing his moments just happy to be co- owner/editor/founder/eliciter/author/exhorter/producer/extortionist/catalyst/enabler/flower arranger for America's greatest rock and roll band. Research and tattling have indicated that he may have some aimful chops and nimble fingers. Just because he stands around and acts like some kind of Rodney Darling on bluegrass doesn't mean Jerry Leiber might not invite him to stroll down the Great White Room Way. If he wanted to go. Maybe.
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 21:48:58 ET
Posted by: BIG "D", DETROIT
FRONT PAGE SUNDAY SEPT 6 OF THE DETROIT FREE PRESS"STEELY DAN ROCKS DETROIT".JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS TO THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING DETROIT THE LAST STOP ON THE 1ST LEG OF THE 2009 RENT PARTY TOUR.I WAS THERE AND WHAT A PARTY IT WAS!IT WAS A PERFECT DAY IN THE "BIG D" AND AN AWESOME CONCERT.DETROIT LOVES SD.DF&WB DIDN'T LET US DOWN.IT WAS HIGH ENERGY FROM THE START.THEY PLAYED A HOST OF THERE GREATEST HITS,15 IN ALL(THE CORRECT SET LIST HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED).YOU COULD FEEL THE ELECTRICITY IN THE AIR AND EVERYBODY WAS ROCKIN.DF&WB WHERE FEEDING OFF THE DEDICATED FANS.YOU COULD SEE THEY WERE ENJOYING THEMSELVES,AND PLAY THEY DID.THE MUSIC WAS CLEAN AND TIGHT,JUST LIKE ON THE CD'S.I REALLY DO BELIEVE THATS WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.THE VENUE FOR THE CONCERT WAS HELD AT THE SOUND BOARD MUSIC THEATRE INSIDE THE MOTOR CITY CASINO IN DOWNTOWN DETROIT.THE 1500 SET THEATRE WAS SOLD OUT.THE SOUND WAS FANTASTIC,CRISP AND CLEAR.VERY UPCLOSE AND PERSONAL.THIS CONCERT REMINDED ME OF THE TWO AGAINST NATURE DVD THAT WAS RECORDED&FILMED IN N.Y. CITY.IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT GET IT.ITS SD AT THERE BEST.THE ONLY WAY THAT THE CONCERT COULD HAVE BEEN ANY BETTER WOULD BE IF CORNELIUS BUMPUS WAS BACK THERE PLAYING THAT SAX.BUMPUS PASSED IN 2004.HERES A QUICK BUMPUS STORY.I WAS AT THE Y2K CONCERT AT PINE KNOB SITTING IN THE 7th ROW.ITS THE ENCORE NUMBER"DON'T TAKE ME ALIVE".WHERE ALL STANDING AND ROCKIN.THE BAND IS JAMMIN.THE HORNS ARE BLOWIN AND CORNELIUS DECIDES TO STOP PLAYING,SITS DOWN TAKES OUT HIS HANKY AND STARTS POLISHING HIS SAX.I GUESS HE WAS DONE WITH IT.WHAT A GREAT MEMORY.LONG LIVE CORNELIUS BUMPUS.
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 17:26:39 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, Ohio
/In defense of Detroit/security was cool and casual general admission was grat was in front like .everyone else from the Blue. Met Ed and Little Wild One and had a drink w/ them after show/ great folks and even Greater Danfans. Walter has improved his chops greatly' Herington and Carlock were smokin! As far as Don and Walt aging/ who the hell escapes that? I hope you guys got home safe Little One/ you are a couple more good friends I made from the Blue and look foreward to seeing again. Thanx for this site Hoops; in spite of the occasional bullshit this place works as you intended and I and we all owe you our debt of gratitude .
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 17:00:57 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Lippy, I must protest. Jon is a highly accomplished player who is always in control of himself and his instrument. You do him an injustice and I won't have it. He's brilliant and solid. I like the other guys, especially Krantz, they are virtuosos but give me Jon everytime. He's a pro's pro.
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 13:47:10 ET
Posted by: Lippy Freud,
...Also, Herington's style isn't as overpower/overshadowing. The other guys are such "busy"/tchnically-driven players (not that Jon doesn't have great chops), that when WB solos he sounds almost as an intermediate player. (Sorry Jim, if I offended. I used to like WB's less noodle-driven/aimless playing. He often sounds like he's just filling space. There's little/no direction to his playing in general.)
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 13:07:40 ET
Posted by: Lippy Freud,
I don't mean the following in any way condemning to J. Herington, but, I'll wager the main reason SD favors him over Wadenius, Krantz or Zingg is because he's a more malleable and reticent personality.
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 11:45:41 ET
Posted by: pixeleen, home from Chicago :-(
Just a couple of post-Chicago thoughts:
Royal Scam and Internet Request nights were fantastic. Larry Carlton looked like he was having the time of his life; grinning from ear to ear !
Crowd was really into it. Many standing O's all night !
Donald was in fine voice both nights, as was the SD choir of fans.
Catherine, Tawatha, and Carolyn were quite fetching in their black leather and skin-tight black jeans on Request night ! wow.....
At the end of the Request night show, Walter tossed something, maybe his guitar pick, to a woman in the front row and she blew him a kiss in return.
Okay....so who was that incredibly lucky Steely Woman??? Anyone we know from here on The Blue??
Loved Chicago, and The Chicago Theater is an incredible place to see a concert !!
What a couple of nights !!!!! Absolutely worth the air fare, hotel points and missed work.......
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 11:34:50 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
steelydan.com has added a bunch of reviews to the website...you can click on the "reviews" link, which is under the merch link, or go here:
http://www.steelydan.com/tour09reviews.html
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 11:22:25 ET
Posted by: drew zing fan club or georg wadnus, near cleveland
drew zing or georg wadinus
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 10:51:09 ET
Posted by: Wheels, Detroit
Greg M, I saw the 1994 tour at the Thunderdome (now called something else) in St.Petersburg, Florida. I know it was Dennis Chambers for sure, who was the lead guitarist then? I could have sworn it was Wayne Krantz. Do you or anybody know who the lead guitarist was then? Either way, that was my favorite band and setlist. Thanks
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 09:01:24 ET
Posted by: GY, B
I was hoping that they would do Gaucho at the Akron Airdock...high in the Custerdome.
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 08:48:55 ET
Posted by: worm tom, michigan from nola
caught last night's motor city show
up from new orleans visiting my family in michigan for the labor day weekend
first we went to the overcrowded jazzfest and caught Brubeck and his old band running through numbers
my friend just had foot surgery so we opted for seats up top
ours were partially obstructed - couldn't see jon or walt corner as I checked them out but the security personal saw my friend crutching it over and immdediately upgraded us to unobstructed center area wheel chair seats with only one row in front of them in the balcony!!! how nice
this was my 8th dan show and I've never sat farther back than ten rows before (number of 2nd and 1st row shows) the sound was great, the venue small enough (it seats 1800) that we had great seats above the throng below - that stage was high and we saw much neck craning.
don's voice wasn't top notch last night - much better at Memphis and Orange Beach - my two other 09 dan stops - and it was funny - with his voice not quite perfect - he actually embellished more not less - and seemed to have a lot of fun with the detroit crowd!
during Hey 19 he said "everybody in detroit knows her" after the Aretha Franklin line to great applause
when I heard glamour and dirty work I thought they might bring out all the great rarities like an internet request night but we had to settle for Black Cow, Babylon, Aja. Jim Beard seemed to get more face time than usual and they made some remark about him and a pet.
itching went over big as did bodi and kid c
the crew was brought out before the dial it home single encore wtf again
the high advantage allowed us a better view of keith's work - even more impressive but as good as he is he can't purdie shuffle like purdie. Freddie also simplifies Rainey's moves and leaves out alot of the upper harmonics - for simplicity of movement (his bass was a little muddy last night but the rest of the sound was perfect).
All in all a good show, but I was hoping for more variety and hate the fact that they dumb it down with heavy guitar numbers and obvious hits
cheers from the topsoil
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 01:30:34 ET
Posted by: The Great Zo, Berkley, MI
I was the 5'8" guy in question. The show was main floor general admission, with everybody standing -- which appears to be somewhat a rarity for a SD show. The stage was literally right at my eye level. At that angle, I couldn't see over the Rhodes, blocking Jim Beard and the left-most backing vocalist from my view entirely.
Donald briefly departed the stage during "Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart" but returned in time for Walter to introduce him. No sign of any cigarettes -- real or fake.
It should also be noted that as the band returned for the encore, Donald invited the entire tech crew out on the stage for a round of applause for their work on this leg of the tour. The audience was appreciative.
The mix was spectacular. I enjoy getting up front for shows, fully expecting to trade a little in the sound quality department, but not this time -- crispness even more impressive given that you're mixing 13 musicians. If anything, the whole thing could have been a little louder.
Doors opened at 6:30 PM -- and the first people lining up to get in didn't start hanging around until around 5:45 PM. I was actually the first let into the venue itself; perhaps my sole accomplishment for the week. :D
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 01:26:08 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
"I am now 35 and still think the 1994 band with Wayne Krantz/Dennis Chambers was the best."
??????????????????????????????????
WRONG, never happened
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 00:51:02 ET
Posted by: beaubo, cleve
nov 16 akron aja
nov 17 akron internet
no need to take me at face value...you can wait for it to be posted on sd official site at some point! :)
Date: Sun, September 06, 2009, 00:47:39 ET
Posted by: Wheels, Detroit
The venue holds 1,500 people and was clean/crisp. I stood dead center, knees to stage the whole night. My neck hurts from looking up. I am 5'10" and the stage height was a little high but no view problems. I was hoping to get Dr.Wu, Any Major Dude and Don't Take Me Alive but oh well, no complaints. Glamour Profession was the highlight for me! The band was great but not the best band I have seen as I have seen every tour at least once since they came back in 1993. I am now 35 and still think the 1994 band with Wayne Krantz/Dennis Chambers was the best. Jon Herington/Keith Carlock are great as all the Steely Dan members are but that 1994 tour just smoked. Dennis Chambers is the best live drummer they have had since 1993 in my opinion. There is a reason most of the tracks on Alive In America feature him and not Peter Erskine. I would take Dennis Chambers and his canary yellow Pearl Masters Custom kit over any other drummer, including Keith Carlock. Everyone seems to get off on Keith so much but Dennis can play circles around him. Tom Barney is also a better Bass player then Freddie Washington. Donald and Walter are both starting to look real old, especially Donald. I did love the Cab Calloway picture on the front of the Fender Rhodes. I do love though how Walter just throws out the word fuck here and there and doesn't seem to give a shit about anything, just up there noodling. It was great as usual but would have liked to have heard some more deep cuts!!
Date: Sat, September 05, 2009, 23:57:24 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
So, Zo, was the 5'8" guy sitting or standing? I mean, uhh, sounds like a great set. I think opening the show-proper with BFry would be killer-- right up there with 2vN.
Did anybody leave the stage during the choral number?
Any sign of Chesterfield Kings?
Date: Sat, September 05, 2009, 23:11:42 ET
Posted by: The Great Zo, Berkley, MI
Here's the setlist from Detroit, sans opening and closing numbers:
1. Black Friday
2. Hey Nineteen
3. Black Cow
4. Dirty Work
5. Bodhisattva
6. Glamour Profession
7. Peg
8. Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart / Intros
9. Babylon Sisters
10. Aja
11. Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More
12. Josie
13. Green Earrings
14. My Old School
15. Kid Charlemagne
--Encore--
16. Reelin' In The Years ('72)
Front row center was great, and the venue was modern and intimate -- sans the inexcusable fact that the stage height in the pit was at eye level for a 5'8" guy!
I clocked an hour and fifty minutes.
Date: Sat, September 05, 2009, 18:48:11 ET
Posted by: motor City dudes, in front standing
we are inside
this is like a small hschool gym
maybe holds 4000 people
we are in a pit infront of the stage
intimate look and feel
more later
Date: Sat, September 05, 2009, 18:09:44 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I think your excitement is infectious. dear poster, enjoy. Sound it out loud.
Date: Sat, September 05, 2009, 16:12:07 ET
Posted by: Dan Fan Forever..., Big Bear Lake
I cannot contain my excitement!!!
When I received the email yesterday at my office, I put all calls to voicemail, called the box office at Pechanga and bought my 3rd row tics. Happy Birthday to me!!! If anyone hears what possible setlist may be...please let us know. I too, was one of the fortunate to attend the 06 Donald Fagen show at the Pechanga theatre and truth be told, the acoustics are perfect for Steely Dan and their "magic" band. Oh, there is a nice hotel on site too, for those of you interested. Great restaurants in the casino area, and a cool nightclub. There is a casual bar close to entrance of the theatre inside casino area, maybe a Dan Fest is in order prior to the show? What do you all think?
DanFanForever.........with P and G!
Date: Sat, September 05, 2009, 14:26:00 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, 75 East Wacker
Holy Sh*t! So glad I checked my email.
A Steely Dan show in October! Whoo-hoo.
Pechanga is amazing. So tiny and amazing
acoustics as anyone else who saw the Fagen
solo show in 2006 can confirm. No need to
call the box office, just scored great seats
via their web site from here in Chicago.
After listening to that Seattle 74 Boot, I
think it's funny that they are playing
Seattle. A guy at the top of the show yells,
"F*ck You! - Go back to California!"
I wonder who they opened for?
Last nights show was a blast. But the Gibson
still sounded better. Better Wu in Hollywood
also. But I think Donald might have been
a little spooked by the creepy "pear-shaped"
broad who walked down front to stare at Don.
Where was security when you need it?
Sure they can stop people from dancing, but
apparently they don't care about creepy stalkers
in Chitown. Larry's wah-wah infused solo on
"Reelin" was worth the price of admission alone.
More when I get back.
Have fun in Detroit! Finally a show with General
Admission!! Lot's of dancing for sure. The Band
will love it. Haven't seen a set up like that
since Roseland. Should be a blast.
Date: Sat, September 05, 2009, 14:13:06 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Recently revisited some of Bob Sheppard's playing, and realised what a great player he was (well, probably still is). Would certainly like to hear his take on the Phil Woods 'Wu' solo, which IMO is such an integral part of the song that it needs to be played pretty much 'as is', in the same way as the guitar break in 'Third World Man'.
Have just googled Mr Woods, resulting in the interesting (to me anyway - probably common knowledge !) facts that he's 77(!), he married Charlie Parker's widow, and also played the solo on 'Just the Way You Are'.
Re DF's curious cigarette 'prop' (and Larry Carlton 'smoking' as well ?!) - have always been mildly amused by the fact that, had he been at school in the UK, he would inevitably have been known as 'Fagend' (register entry 'Fagen, D'). Not quite the same meaning in the US of course.
Date: Sat, September 05, 2009, 12:22:13 ET
Posted by: Apollo, The final frontier
Houston, we have no problems. Dallas, where did you get those booooots???
Date: Sat, September 05, 2009, 12:10:15 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Wu Hoo/ I am out the door for the drive to Detroit. Cant wait to get there and relax; hope to see some of you there and I hope Don and Walt and the boys [and girls] are as inspired as i am. Taking my Ipod and will listen to nothing but the glorius sound of STEELY DAN!!!! Will post the setlist sometime tommorrow. p.s Whas somewhat bummed that this was not the closer till I thought of all the other Danfans who will now get a chance to see them. God bless/ Klaus
Date: Sat, September 05, 2009, 12:01:10 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" any of you heard of London, Ontario ?... ( between Toronto and Detroit) ... well, you better look it up, as i have inside info about a date here... "
How about a Kansas City , St. Louis , Omaha and / or Minneapolis date ?
Developing ....................
J. Fly !
Date: Sat, September 05, 2009, 10:48:28 ET
Posted by: pixeleen, still reelin'
Loved Donald's shiny silver party shoes last night !!.....and the band was phenomenal !!
Seemed to be a completely full-house and the crowd was great.....
Date: Sat, September 05, 2009, 10:29:00 ET
Posted by: in the know.., London, Ont, Canada
any of you heard of London, Ontario ?... ( between Toronto and Detroit) ... well, you better look it up, as i have inside info about a date here...
Date: Sat, September 05, 2009, 02:11:44 ET
Posted by: MikeA, Seattle
Been following the posts all summer long. As always, thanks for all the reviews, setlists and good conversation. I thought The Dan forgot about us in the Northwest for this year. Am stoked that the guys will be here in Seattle next month. Going to shoot for the Royal Scam show first and see how much dough is left for Aja.
Say, what's the deal on the presales? Anyone care to tell me how it works?
Date: Sat, September 05, 2009, 01:57:39 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @home
Back in Milw after the chicago internet show. great performance, carlton had some choice licks, carlock a monster as always.
not necessarily in order:
Black Friday
Aja
Peg
Home at Last
Bodhi
Hey 19
Any major dude
The Wu
Rikki
josie
do it again
dirty work
black cow
itching in my heart/intro's
dont take me alive
kid c
parkers band
enc: reelin' 72
im thinking i might be missing one.
great to see all my steely friends, wish i could have stayed for the post show gathering
peace, love & dan
KC
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 23:52:38 ET
Posted by: Those_Frenetic_Licks_, In_Green_Earrings
As a service to the Twittter-Impatient the Sep 03 Chicago setlist:
Teenie's Blues
Then as advertised:
Kid Charlemagne
Caves of Altamira
Don't Take Me Alive
Sign In Stranger
The Fez
Green Earrings
Haitian Divorce
Everything You Did
The Royal Scam
Then!:
Hey 19
Dirty Work
Black Friday
I Got The News
Aja
Parker's band
Peg
Third World Man
Josie
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years
Out with Last Tango
People, call in sick, rack up your credit cards, commit to road trips you thought were a thing of the past, sell your organs, neglect your kids (better yet, take them with you), ... and go hear Steely Dan.
ps: Thank you Provincial, for the etiology of Dr. Wu - I hadn't seen it 'till just now.
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 22:35:12 ET
Posted by: Those_Frenetic_Licks_, In_Green_Earrings
Just quickly want to add my impressions from Royal Scam night in Chicago. I saw the Memphis show with Provincial Reuben and the rest of the Wolfpack (save the few who couldn't make it). The Pack has seen at least 1 show of every tour since '93. Memphis was one of the tightest performances I've seen. Thursday night in Chicago was almost that tight, but no less superlative. The venue is great, and the crowd was into-it (not a foregone conclusion, witness Toledo '07). The Royal Scam is dear to me, I enjoyed hearing it and was very pleased that the show went on quite a bit after TRS was over. [Carolyn Leonhart-Escoffery started an LP at the beginning and flipped it over at the half-way mark. I thought she was adjusting equip but 'Wonderful Wife Jen' set me straight]. Now I have to say Larry Carlton was a real treat. It is evident this guy melded with his instrument a long time ago. Clear as a bell, no missed licks, and some 'treatments' or techniques I don't think I've ever heard before. He does frenetic with precision, and nuanced sliding and string-bending stuff equally well and often at the same time. I could spend an hour re-wording that, but instead I hope you will read into it all your most hoped-for suspicions/expectations. Oh, yeah - Larry does great body-english too - he's on his toes when it's necessary. At the same time, I think JH was at the top of his game and Walter (it seemed to me in Memphis and again in Chicago) has upped his rehearsal time or something - he really is doing heavy-lifting. The 3 of them did some turn-taking (on Haitian Divorce i believe) that was neat-o. You might guess I like 'Green Earrings', especially the insane guitar work. You'd guess right. I've enjoyed hearing different interpretations of it over the years. I always want to hear the 'canonical' version and last night I think I came as close to that wish as I'm going to get. Now, if only we could get the Vibes back for Aja....
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 22:21:58 ET
Posted by: Tom Hayes, san Diego, Ca
I got 2 in the right-orchestra on the aisle at Penchanga!
My mother is going too - she's the one who played a lot of Dan during my childhood.
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 19:36:42 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Beaubo: Yeah, that's my take on Royal Scam night, too. Glad it wasn't just me.
Gus: You Steely Dan slut! You are making me look like a slacker. ;-)
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 18:14:45 ET
Posted by: mr parker, socal
Pechanga!
Call their box office to get orchestra seats.
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 18:14:39 ET
Posted by: mr parker, socal
Pechanga!
Call their box office to get orchestra seats.
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 18:14:32 ET
Posted by: mr parker, socal
Pechanga!
Call their box office to get orchestra seats.
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 18:07:42 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland
Now that second leg has been confirmed, I can 'fessup that a 'reliable' source has whispered in my ear that November could find SD in Akron, Pitts and/or Cinc.
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 18:00:16 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
beaubo, nice detail, my Cleveland brotha, thanks. How's that old town of mine doing?
A second leg? Have they lost their minds? What is up with that...these guys just never do what you think they might. They are quite deep into the catalogue now, barriers, I surmise, have been breeched it would seem..
LWO, brava, bravissima, e viva l'amore.
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 16:48:52 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland
Zipped in from Cleveland to catch the Royal Scam show in Chicago.
The Chicago Theatre is a fantastic place to see concert- good sight lines, acoustics and decent seat size and spacing.
Usually Kid C is at the end of the set or encore and crowd is alreafy pumped. As the first song, the crowd was not revved up yet and while the song got great response, it was not the typical end of show frenzy. DF's voice has definitely suffered some wear and tear, but he clearly was trying his best and the ladies did an admirable job covering his upper ends.
Caves has always been a gfavorite of mine, hadn't heard it since 01 or 03 in Cleveland. The whole soaring horn interlude was a highlight for me.
Don'T Take Me Alive finally kicked the crowd into second gear. I'm nt a guitar aficioinado by any stretch, but there was definitely something very different (better?) about hearing Larry Carlton pound out the guitar sdolo vs. John Herrington.
Enjoyed the keyboard solo on Sign In Stranger and the horn solos with Green Earring.
At first I was disappointed that DF vacated the stage for The Fez, then I realized how lyric-sparse the song is, and that it really is about the groove, not the words, so it was fine. In fact, that song has such an infectious beat, that its surprising it doesn't get more face time (ditto for New Frontier which I sorely missed!).
Haitian Divorce was a highlight as well, especially since the last time I heard it, Mr. Becker was doing the (dubious!) honors. Even though a deep cut, the crowd gave a surprisingly rousing response.
Everything She Did was done well, I had heard it at the last sjhow on last tour in Santa Rosa, both had a bit of a reggae infusion that worked quite well. Sometimes the remixes really compliment a song, other times (Reeling the Too Slow version!!!) they just don't cut it..for me.
Royal Scam is just a hypnotic song and the crowd was finally chiming in after the horn solos.
Extended applause/standing O as the album came to a close.
Hey 19 without the Becker monologue was great. And Aja never seems to wane with the band, sounded as vital and fresh as ever and that Carlock guy seems to have boundless energy. Another huge crowd favorite. The bluesy take on Black Friday is another remix that keeps the integrity of the song intact with a nice twist.
Dirty Work and Parkers Band are fine, neither are on my top 30 list.
Fantastic surprise was Third World Man, though a mellow song, was riveting enough to keep the crowd quiet and attentive.
Peg and Josie are the old reliables.
My Old School, which I've seen in concert at least a dozen times and loved it every time. But THIS version combined with the crowd in maximum excitement mode., totally clicked. And again, I sensed something different with the Carlton guitar performance vs. Herrington..can't put my finger on it.
Reeling 72 rounded out the affair...I actually liked the origonal remixed version better, but it was fine. All in all, well worth the plane ticket, burning hotel points and of course the triple digit ticket price.
The complete absence of @vN and EMG is puzzling if not troubling.
Jack of Speed would be an easy fit for those that like Black Cow.
Blues Beach has that uptempo Bodhitsatva sound. FM and Love At Century's End would always be a bonus for me.
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 15:59:25 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, El Segundo, CA Cubeville
Steelydoc,
Thanks very much for the heads-up about the Temecula (Pechanga) date. When I saw that it said "on sale now", I called Mrs. GW, who proceeded to get us seats in the second row.
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 15:31:46 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Wow, back in LA already?
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 15:28:57 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
Temecula, CA, show added at steelydan.com
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 12:39:57 ET
Posted by: LWO, CHICAGO
KD
i will get the tee shirt for you
LWO
P.S
Send me the mailing address at my hotmail acct
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 12:22:28 ET
Posted by: Jesse, Toronto
Anybody know what time doors open at the Motor City Casino tomorrow night? I have floor GAs and I want to get right up front! Thanks!
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 12:08:53 ET
Posted by: TC Dan Fan, Mpls
Tour extended?? Minneapolis - PLEASE!!!!
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 11:04:07 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Thanks, Pixy
Looking forward to the reports
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 10:54:34 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Dean:
Caves sounded awesome last night as was the entire show !! Larry Carlton was smoking and Jon and Walter were on fire too.
Keith was a monster last night....
Incredible show and great audience.
Can't wait for tonight's show !!
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 09:43:23 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Quick question to those at last night's show:
How did Caves sound live?
Thanks
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 09:38:02 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
"Truth", If Donald is actually drinking something other than Coke, and nobody knows it, isn't that "good acting"?
And if it isn't a real cig, what is it? A virtual cigarette?
Hey, KD, sorry to hear about the T-Shirt. But at least the girlfriend didn't leave YOU in the cab...so you got that going for you (which is nice).
:#) Hope you get it replaced.
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 07:48:44 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
KD, so...it's safe to say you're pretty much in love with this girlfriend. Oh, the things we do, well, OK, so be it. I hope you get that t-shirt back for her but don't just show up with it like a schlomo. Wait a while. Let her stew in her own collective remorse is what the Machiavellian in me says. Then one night put it on and go over to her place. Act dumb. Huh? This t-shirt? Naw, had it for years, why? Torture is the main attraction.
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 04:37:39 ET
Posted by: KD, Two hours outside of Chicago
So, the girlfriend was quite smitten with the teal Steely Dan t-shirt, the one with the Showbiz Kids lyrics on the front, but not smitten enough to keep it with her after she got out of a cab post-show. We paid 40 bucks to carry a t-shirt around with us for 20 minutes, dine with it, and then leave it in a cab. Whoops.
I'm not in Chicago, but was wondering if there was any kind soul that will be going to Friday's show and wouldn't mind getting in touch with me regarding possibly buying a version of that shirt. I'd pay face value, nudge-nudge, plus shipping, plus handling, plus whatever else you would see fit for your hassle. If you have a PayPal account I could even send the money your way before the show.
Email address is listed above. The thought of driving four hours combined to buy a t-shirt -- actually, I couldn't even get in to buy the shirt without a ticket. Nevermind. Anyway, if anyone feels like hassling their Friday night to help a sad girlfriend, please contact me.
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 02:17:10 ET
Posted by: ed_beatty, chicago
What a night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ed
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 01:41:20 ET
Posted by: Truth,
Great show tonite but bad acting by DF
He has a can of coke by his keyboards but a friend on the inside said that it's actually filled up with tea. DF got a huge check under the table from coke to make appear that he's drinking coke.
DF also did the cigarerre routine. It's not even a real cigarette.
thoughts?
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 01:34:55 ET
Posted by: cj,
Just wanted to say that aja and scam concerts at Chicago Theater were the best ive seen out of 9 shows since 2006.........
Date: Fri, September 04, 2009, 00:34:47 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Wow, more dates. Nice... :-)
Hey to Dif. Hope you enjoyed the concert.
Hoops: Again, thanks for twittering the set list. Makes me almost feel like I was there.
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 23:18:03 ET
Posted by: Lex, NE
From keithcarlock.com
Once the lights go down on the Steely Dan tour, Keith is on the road again with James Taylor. A handful of US gigs have been announced with more to come. See below or visit JamesTaylor.com for the latest. Hope you can make it to a show!
JT's tour runs from Sept 9-21. I wouldn't expect any SD dates during this time.
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 23:02:59 ET
Posted by: steelydoc,
from steelydan.com:
Rent Party '09 Tour Extends Into Autumn:
Special Setlists Shows Continue
A Leg II has been added to Dan's Rent Party '09 Tour, bringing Special Setlist shows to several additional cities. Multi-night stands are again expected in selected markets.
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 23:01:40 ET
Posted by: Littlest Hours, NY
They gotta hit Vancouver.
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 22:46:53 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Tour extended!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still got a chance!!!!!
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 21:33:58 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl, prob. too far from Leg 2 but dreamin'
More, more, more...
how do you like it, how do you like it?
Guess they haven't made the Rent $$ yet, all's the better for us!
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 21:26:07 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
Leg 2?!?!?!
Could it be? Could they possibly hit Philly?
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 20:29:16 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the borgata
steelydan.com now updated with Seattle dates
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 19:58:02 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
While searching for some Kid C. guitar solo lessons I ran upon this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMArrSjSjOo
Pretty cool little medley. Where's the 335?
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 18:55:03 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the borgata
Steely Dan plays Seattle October 12 and 13...tix on sale next Friday
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 18:16:29 ET
Posted by: Joey ,
No Steely Dan ?! :
http://www.adherents.com/people/100_rock.html
Why .. ?!
WHY ...... ?!
JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJOEY !!!!
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 18:13:01 ET
Posted by: moray eel, great
Beijing and Shanghai...
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 14:33:15 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
The new Rolling Stone says there's a Steely Dan Tour, and there is some obfuscatory interview along with some gospel-like truth from WB.
Had to read the Friedman book to get pp. 195&6. Interesting stuff. That Chuck Rainey had a lot to say. Three bass players in fifteen chapters and the Jerry Leiber was bogminddling. With so many guitar players in the herd-- Hugh McCracken, especially -- wonder why they never used Cornell Dupree? Anyone heard about that?
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 13:48:27 ET
Posted by: When You Smile,
"Bob"
If Sparkle could say, he would have. Don't badger or you will scare the anons off.
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 13:21:56 ET
Posted by: bob, Chicago
sparkle-
what are the details on extending the tour??? west coast, southland, Canada?
let us know the details, thanks,
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 10:36:12 ET
Posted by: Mr. Wolf, Telegraph & 8 Mile
Yes Denise the tour has been extended! You can catch them Saturday August 5th in Detroit!
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 08:19:25 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown cubicle
Sparkle: tour extended? Good news, awaiting details...thanks. Nice job so far.
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2009, 05:44:55 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
And they did the 2vN title track here in Europe.
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 23:46:30 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Jan: They did Godwacker on Gaucho night, here in LA.
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 23:12:33 ET
Posted by: Sparkle of your China, Wabash
Tour extended
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 22:58:12 ET
Posted by: KD, o-l-l
Seconded on Donald's voice. Seventh time I've seen them, and the best (by far) that I've ever heard Don sing. By far.
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 22:02:55 ET
Posted by: Chiprdr, Cuyahoga Falls
read in interview DF quit smoking in '83
PS kudos to Hoops have been entertained and enlightened by the Digest since 93 when the Boys went back on tour! Going to Detroit Sat.
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 21:37:07 ET
Posted by: Jan, in Fagen country
HOOPS, thanks for hanging in there, despite seriously stupid, though still occasional assholism here. We've communicated in the past, over the years, and I know as well as as anyone who's dealt with you that you're a sincere, helpful and very COOL guy. Ignore the trash. Fuck 'em.
On another note, I must say, even after following the Bluebook here during this tour that I am still surprised that the boys haven't done anything from 2vN or EMG for request nights. (Maybe they did the 2vN title tune, earlier in the summer, but I'm not recalling it now. Been a long day) I don't remember seeing anything on the twittered lists or other posted lists from those last two CDs. Am I right or did I miss something somewhere?
Don't seem right. ("I've been strung out here all night...")
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 20:26:44 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, free of the death sticks
Thanks for reminding me; today I completed 7 years without a cigarette.
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 18:42:57 ET
Posted by: Bob, Chicago
Well, if smoking is bad on your voice and throat it showed absolutely no effect on DF Tuesday night, as his voice was in EXCEPTIONAL form.
I think DF's smoking and throwing the cig on stage is reminiscent of Dean Martin's old stage stick. Thursday night the Coke will be gone replaced by scotch and water.........
Have fun Donald!!
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 18:17:33 ET
Posted by: DrJay, SF
As far as DF smoking ,he did ther same thing(encore time) in LA on the RS night.Though i thought it was a cigar
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 17:51:05 ET
Posted by: MERCH,
Are they selling any SD merchandise at the concert?
Thanx
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 15:41:37 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Wormy/ Good luck at the jazzfest and just a reminder to my friends on the blue Motown can be a pretty unforgiving place if you dont keep your wits about ya. The Casino rules apply/ Wallet in the front pocket; tell the Missus to keep the purse close and in hand. Hope to meet some of you at the Danfest before the show. Hope to meet you Hoops/ without you this site would not exist; s
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 15:23:24 ET
Posted by: wormy, nola
hey klaus
yes the Detroit Jazz fest - haven't seen where to buy tickets but I'm planning on catching the Shorter quartet Perez, Pattitucci and Blade - three mo fos laying it down (maybe don and walt with be in the audience)
hope the casino show is not cut short
and that they lay some songs on the line (no reeling, josie, peg, etc for me)
hoops - sorry to hear people have to been idiots, especially with all you do to host this site (kinda like poor St Al and the stray looney who mucks it up over there)
T
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 15:12:01 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Mike in LA, I hope you got the jist of my post. Hoping.
But smokin is not the worst thing you can do for your voice. Dying is. And I'm astounded both these guys have lived this long, great artists are tortured beings, we don't have to page back too awfully far in the annals to witness that. So if Donald needs a cigarette right now, he needs a cigarette. When it's needed...it's needed.
I know some of you out there may have lost loved ones to this terrible habit and others too and I certainly wouldn't want to diminish your strong thoughts but, just the same, our lives are our own however we choose to lead them.
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 13:52:08 ET
Posted by: Mike, L.A.
Raj, it's not about Donald's sense of danger or anything prudish, P.C., etc.
It's that smoking fucks up your throat and voice. Donald's been struggling with the notes. Let's hope it's not a cigarette habit.
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 12:57:58 ET
Posted by: ToddRodd, New York
Steely Dan is in the "Tournament of Rock" at this blog. And they're losing to Los Lobos???!!!! WTF?
Go vote if you can.
http://is.gd/2O22K
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 12:54:04 ET
Posted by: Hoops Evil Twin,
--- He quickly tossed the lit fag maybe 15' across the stage.
So I'm confused. Did Donald throw a cigarette or did he hurl a drunk homosexual across the stage? If the latter, where was security? Someone could get hurt.
All I know is if he's smoking, it must be doing him some good because it takes a lot to throw somebody 15 feet across a stage. Maybe he could try out for the Olympic shot-put team.
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 12:47:24 ET
Posted by: SOOTH SAYER,
I was there. i didn't see DF smoking
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 12:31:25 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I like the Twitter format for the concerts. It's perfect for that.
But I feel left out cause I don't have an iPhone, sob, but hey, early this morning a small heard of goats went walking down the road here but I guess the two experiences aren't quite the same.
Smokin' a ciggy? Swilling Coca-cola? Oh my, what's next, playing poker with the boys till 3 AM after bowling league night? Donald's middle name is, "Danger."
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 11:42:25 ET
Posted by: Concert Goer,
When Donald and the band came back on stage for the encore, the stage hadn't been fully lit. I saw someone sorta in silhouette--a nice photo really--taking a drag from a lit cigarette. It was Donald, who seemed like he was eager to get back on. As he entered the stage, it seemed like all of a sudden he was surprised that he still had the cigarette in his hand. He quickly tossed the lit fag maybe 15' across the stage. A stage hand retrieved it.
Or maybe one of the band members had really bad flatulence so Donald had a peppermint incense stick burning, carrying it in his teeth.
Who knows for sure?
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 11:20:52 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
I pecked into my iPhone last night:
"Is anyone even reading the twitter stuff?"
====
See? Now it's not so much that I'm fishing for strokes as it is I had this sudden panic about Twitter.
You see, I think most people's Twitter feeds are pretty narcissistic: "Guess what??? I just ate a Cheeto!" I was shaking my head when NPR and even Dan Shore (reluctantly?) got on the bandwagon. But I realized, that hey, SD lists might be one exception since we text and post anyways--tweeting is superior in this context.
So, all of a sudden, I'm sitting there in the show, with my iPhone, pecking tweets in the dark with my screen turned down, thinking, "What the fuck?"
Now that I have confirmed that our narcissism is mutual, I will continue.
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 10:47:54 ET
Posted by: Need 2 know,
We all want to know did Don really smoke a cigarette?
Was it just a prop?
BTW, It's illegal to smoke indoors. It's even banned on stage for actors in a play. The actors guild protested to no avail.
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 10:05:03 ET
Posted by: Bob, Chicago
what is Donald doing smoking a cig????
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 08:10:03 ET
Posted by: Sun Times, Review
http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/music/1746857,steely-dan-aja-chicago-tour-090109.article
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 07:30:50 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
Following ya Hoops...keep it up
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 06:08:37 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Thanks for the great tweets and pix, Hoops !!
DF smoking again ??? Bad boy !!
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 04:15:37 ET
Posted by: Doc Daneeka, The Swamp
Hey Lester I thought you'd taken the southbound years ago.
It's "The Hold Steady" and I'm sure you mean "importantly" .
Go read some Steely Dan set-lists.
CCW generally agree and your Boss comparison is spot on.
The Steady are miles removed from The Dan musically but they, (for me) give off the same smartness and hip vibe and any band that checks Joe Strummer is fine by me.
Phew a posting that mentions two acts other than SD, cue indignant response from Los Danista.
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 02:06:55 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks again for the Wrap-up
hoops. Totally different
vibe in Chicago for Gaucho.
Who in the f*ck goes to a
Steely Dan Show and chats?!!!
Especially with this year's
prices!
And they were from the Blue?
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 01:32:00 ET
Posted by: Major Dame, Hi
Yes def like the twitting cuz I need setlists--so thanks hoops you and anyone else who twits the lists
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 01:18:47 ET
Posted by: angel, LA (Working Late)
Hoops I was watching them, as I worked at my desk. Kept me company and reminded me of last week. Thanks.
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 01:13:14 ET
Posted by: RD, RR
He started up and quit in '06.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/qa/story/9519861/donald_fagen_gets_inspired
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 01:11:30 ET
Posted by: beaubo, cleveland
hey hoops-
definitely following tweets
parachuting into chicago for thurs show!!
Date: Wed, September 02, 2009, 00:50:34 ET
Posted by: Joe Camel, That penis is a camel
To anyone at the Chicago show: Was Donald really smoking a cigarette or was this for show or a joke? I thought he'd quit years ago. I've never seen or heard of him smoking in the last 20 years. . .
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 23:51:25 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Hoops,
Yes, we follow the tweets out here as well; I checked several times before I left work and also as soon as I fired up the home computer.
Thanks
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 23:27:14 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
I'm following, Hoops.
Thanks so much.
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 23:20:33 ET
Posted by: angry white man, whitesboro
Doc Mu et. al.
I say we ain't goin ta evah git no King of the World, Boston Rag, YGT2. because they can't generate, recapture the sound of those White Boy Harmonies like they had when Hodder and (even Palmer, strike me dead..) wuz around. To suit the level of studio perfection required by DF.
Mu, since you is so good at listin' credits for SD songs, do tell how those rich White Boy Harmonies were generated. Was it all done by dubblin' o' triplin' the voice of DF or what?
On the otha hand, they obvyusly got dem Black Chick Harmonies down cold for the Steely Dan Show, even usin' a white chick like Carolyn L.....
Maybe they could dig up dem Statler Bros., Kansas or Little Rivvah Band and have dem boyz sing backup?
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 22:36:33 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, eh
Yep and checking out the photos.
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 22:23:25 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chgo theatre
Is anyone even reading the twitter stuff?
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 21:41:00 ET
Posted by: Steely Fan, NJ
Driving through Barrytown NY yesterday, I passed this place which seems to be the likely inspiration for Android Warehouse.
http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/default.htm
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 21:14:45 ET
Posted by: partyman,
I hope those aren't drug dogs
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 20:15:41 ET
Posted by: Bobbo, Diggin' Around...
Fellas and Girlies,
I'm sure you've all seen this one a time or two, so let me apologize for reposting, if that's the case...I find this to be a wonderful almost-execution of the tune in question, and...well, you be the judge. Selah.
Okay,
Bobbo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJznCg3XaT4&feature=related
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 19:57:15 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Bindy -
No list is available even for
the voters. Be pleasantly
surprised ;O)
Off to see Herb Alpert & Lani
Hall at the Grammy Museum.
Looking forward to viewing
the Chicago Feed when I
return. Have a great show
all.
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 19:48:20 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy
Hi,
My tix for Friday were ordered by phone with TicketBastard, so I don't get to vote on the set list. Anyone know how the results look?
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 19:17:17 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,
This was Walter's first guitar solo for SD, and what a classic it is. Recorded bar by bar.
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 10:27:26 ET
Posted by: Love Walter,
I never realized that Walter Beck played lead guitar on "Pretzel Logic"
It's one of my favorite riffs.
I hope they play PL on Thursday!
see u there~!
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 18:44:12 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @home
Damn! It sucks to only be 90 some miles away from the Dan and not able to go. The crowd at the August show last year was pretty fired up but it sounds like last night might have been better.
At least I've got tix for Friday, which I'm bring my kids along for their 1st show.
Can't wait to hook up with everyone before the show!
KC
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 18:23:05 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Uh, "hoops Johnson is right"
You know you take something and spin around to mean whatever you want it to and make it negative.
If you at all pay attention to this board at all, you know that I think Boston has the best audiences and I encourage people to hit Boston and NYC for the two places to see the Dan at any tour. A few people recently asked me if they should come to Chicago (and even years ago I'd say the same)...I tell them hit Boston because the crowd is the best and they are a lot of fun and Chicago crowds are relatively boring, not the least of which is because they don't drink enough (and perhaps because I drink too much in Boston).
But that's not what's really what it is all about with you.
So you know, I've been running the Bluebook with a lot of good will for Danfans for the past eight years and, pretty much since day one you come on here with the nastiness, the vicious crap. You go beyond the acceptable fun level of busting one's chops.
There's been everyone from "Trout" to Bill, to a few others, and you are the absolute worst. You know, I'm a good guy who is loyal to fault. I remember hearing on a couple of occasions how you are short of a ticket for example, and I'm thinking how can I help you and things like that. And you know me--here on the Blue and in person--and my willingness to be a good guy to you. And in return, my attempted friend, you act like the biggest piece of shit, year after year. I don't care if you know Pevar, PatMeth, even Pete, you behave like the biggest asshole in the history of Dandom. I can't imagine what these people want to have to do with you.
You're pathetic.
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 17:49:24 ET
Posted by: What the...,
maybe it's the nature of the beast but you really have to have a thick skin to run a website. So many creeps running around, insulting every word you say and every move you make. It's Hoops' house - be gracious and show some respect.
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 17:09:58 ET
Posted by: hoops johnson is right, dag nabit
hooperpooper
oh and how quite right you are concerning your observation concerning chicago being so much more, well . . . civilized . . than the rest of the world. alcohol, sniff, it's so beneath you wind-swept folk.
feel free to leave boston off your itinerary next tour.
∞∞∞This cool, smart guy walks into a bar in chicago and orders a white wine. hoops and his surly gang of tea-totallers sitting around the bar look up, surprised, and the bartender looks around and says: "You ain't from around here, are ya? . . . we don't drink here ya know... where ya from, boy?"
The cool, smart guy says, "I'm from boston."
The bartender asks, "What th' hell do you do in Lushville?"
The guy responds, "I'm a taxidermist."
The bartender asks, "A taxidermist... now just what th' hell is a taxidermist?"
The guy says "I mount animals."
The bartender grins, nods to hoops, and shouts out to the whole bar, "It's OK boys, he's one of us!"∞∞∞
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 14:33:46 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
In response to Lurker Ray & KD;
Sam Yahel started right at about 7:30.
The Dan hit the stage at about 8:05/8:10 and left around 10:35.
There was a great vibe and energy. The audience was really great, kinda like the enthusiasm of the Boston audiences which I consider the best. Only last might's audience wasn't as drunk as Boston usually is.
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 14:27:40 ET
Posted by: KD, Chicago, eventually
Anyone care to relay the starting times for both the opener and SD last night? Not that I want to miss anything, but I am curious.
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 14:22:04 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Hoops great tweets!!!!!
Ah, good times to be a Dan Fan.
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 10:59:23 ET
Posted by: Lester Bangs, B'ham
Who the fuck is "hold steady"...and, more impotently, who the fuck cares?
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 10:53:58 ET
Posted by: Lenny, east
A search of youtube brings up a high school marching band doing King of The World, and indeed Caves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtI_dORwwo4
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 10:47:50 ET
Posted by: Lenny, east
http://www.foxbororeporter.com/articles/2009/08/28/features/5539463.txt
What's up with that setlist? No Wu, Caves...
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 10:27:26 ET
Posted by: Love Walter,
I never realized that Walter Beck played lead guitar on "Pretzel Logic"
It's one of my favorite riffs.
I hope they play PL on Thursday!
see u there~!
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 10:17:04 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks for the awesome report &
pin shots hoops!
Sounds like the SD Love Fest is
continuing on in Chicago just like
we hoped. Turns out tons of
people were brought up on Aja &
Gaucho, they love these albums.
What time did SD go on?
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 08:51:02 ET
Posted by: ccw, dc
Soup Nasty, I have gotten very into Hold Steady recently, although in many ways they're almost the polar opposite of Steely Dan: Hold Steady is meat-and-potatoes, two-or-three-chord rock-n-roll, with (certainly not entirely, but at least sometimes) optimistic, hopeful lyrics and a warm, engaging style. None of that is meant as criticism of either band, I think they're one of the best new(ish)bands out there right now; there are many flavors of music, and one doesn't need to only enjoy just one flavor.
If I had to put Hold Steady in a rock music family tree, they'd be one of Springsteen's branches. I don't think there will ever be another Steely Dan; they are too sui generis.
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 08:26:59 ET
Posted by: HeyMike, Tribune Review
http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/turn_it_up/2009/09/concert-review-steely-dan-plays-aja-at-chicago-theatre.html
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 07:13:52 ET
Posted by: pixeleen, reelin'
Hoops:
Thanks for the awesome twitter pix and set list !!
Sounds like it was a great show and that the crowd was incredible.
Can't wait for thursday night !!!!
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 07:03:46 ET
Posted by: the soup nasty, ny
Are there any current bands who give you the same buzz as the dan did back inthe day.
I give you The Hold Steady
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 03:55:48 ET
Posted by: scouser, home
Hey Raj. Tony here . Please email me i cant find your email in my contacts. This is about are old friend
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 01:27:30 ET
Posted by: Lester, Utah
In reference to the replies to my earlier post about casino shows.. let's say LAS VEGAS Casino shows... ok.. I've only been to ONE recently in lv... at the Palms... the Hard rock in 96 they played TWO big sets.. at the Alladin three years ago (more a shopping mall around a show place) Michael Mcdonald opened for SD then joined them for 5 songs... longer show... And the Indian Reservation Casinos don't seem to have that Limit... Saw Fagen Solo in 04 (I think!) up above Sand Diego and it was ok... the dan Show in at the Santa place was fine.. and OF COURSE, THE BEST OF ALL.... San Jacinto in 06... TWO HUGE HOT SWEATY SETS AND YES.. The Band was HOT.. they played the famous meringo! WOW! great Sound everything..
BUT THE MUSHY NO-DEFINITION TOO LOUD RUMBLE DOWN BELOW WAS HORRIBLE AT THE PALMS... I think that room HAS HUGE STANDING WAVE problems... it needs to be reworked... our seats were only about 10 rows from the back but pretty close to dead center... so we were kind of under the balcony... so that might have affected it.. BUT A SMALLER ROOM LIKE THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE THAT PROBLEM.. it sucked... maybe the seats up front were better.....
Date: Tues, September 01, 2009, 00:57:10 ET
Posted by: Steely Dan Set Lists, Chicago, Aja Night
Intro:Teenie's Blues
Black Cow
Aja
Deacon Blues
Peg
Home At Last
I Got The News
Josie
Black Friday
Time Out of Mind
Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More
Bodhisattva
Babylon Sisters
Show Biz Kids
Hey Nineteen
Dirty Work
Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart including Band Intros
Do It Again
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Encore: Reelin' In The Years (1972 version)
Outro: Last Tango In Paris
They played for about two-and-half hours.
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 23:50:57 ET
Posted by: hoops, On the. 60 Blue Island bus, on the way home
Great show...great audience.
I think it was one of the best audiences ever.
Jim
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 23:49:05 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, eh
I really enjoy the shows at the Borgata....talking to one of the crew after the Boston show it's one of their fav venues to play!
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 21:05:19 ET
Posted by: hoops, Lobby, Chicago Theatre
Click the latest Tweets above for pre-show Danfest photos. Let's hope I get a signal inside. Sam yahel is wrapping up.
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 20:48:32 ET
Posted by: big casino, by the beach
If you eschew the gambling, or at least keep from losing, the casino tickets are reasonably priced. My $95 Borgata seat, approx 12-15th row center, was much better than my $172 Beacon ticket.
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 20:37:40 ET
Posted by: I just, have to say...
I was at the Borgata show, and was fortunate to be backstage afterwards. I overheard one of the band members saying that DF and WB wanted to play longer, but the casino didn't let them, they want the folks back out on the casino floor. I guess the show times are different for each casino. Also note that there is never an opening act for SD at the casino shows, it's all about having a shorter show and getting the bodies back out to the casino. Pure economics.
I thought the Borgata show was great, and it was close to 2 hours long.
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 19:30:11 ET
Posted by: The Truth,
Sounds like the fans in Vegas, and other casino concertgoers that have seen this tour, are being ripped off. And sadly, all this taking place during a recession when the band is lucky fans are even showing up.
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 12:42:24 ET
Posted by: zoomlv, lost wages
I to was at the Pearl for the Dan show on Friday night. Shorter show than usual but from where I was sitting Donald sounded great, vocals were strong and clear.In regards to the "Vegas Show" 90 minute curfew, I work for a major concert venue in Vegas and the "minimum required set is 70 - 90 minutes. Most shows at our venue are at least
90 - 2hours for the headliner and the curfew is midnight.If they go over midnight they run into higher overtime fees.....My friends at the Pearl gave me an out time of 10:30pm it was more like 10pm. I had a copy of the setlist and the boys were supposed to do My Old School as an encore and chose not to. I think the Dan cut the show short not the "Vegas myth".
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 11:52:02 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
B. Fournier. Indeed - The intro and solo on Fire in the Hole is antoher nice primer on Fagen. He can play the runs, but most importantly, listen to WHAT he plays. The EGTTM solo is chock full of twisted, MUtated Monk/Silver/Bill Evans notions that Paich or Omartian would never dream of...and never played on their own.
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 11:30:18 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
My computer crashed Friday and, while I retrieved everything from backup, getting back up and running sucked up the time. Hence why no communiqués… I have to get caught up a bit.
Chicago fan meetups, Danfests, wing dings, parking details, etc are at http://chicago.com/danfests/chicago
=====
That would be swell if Brubeck or Shorter or Fagen make a show at each other events. When I saw Brubeck in June, he had to be helped to his piano but you never know what kind of arrangements could be made.
=====
Chicago setlists (and photos) will appear above via Twitter.
More later,
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 11:21:56 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Wow/ Dave Brubeck is playing the Detroit jazzfest Sat and Wayne Shorter will be there Sunday. Since our boys play Sat nite in between the two gigswhats the chance of a guest spot at the SD show? donald loves Brubeck/ perhaps he will catch the show before his. Prob doubtful as Brubeck plays at 4 thirty and the Dan starts at 8 but maybe Shorter could come a day early and guest on AJA. Oh Joey I am sporting heavy wood!!
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 10:26:19 ET
Posted by: B. Fournier,
Anyone here on the board that doubts DF incapable of virtual "fast runs", listen to some of those executed (I hate that term as it applies to musical performance) almost at the end of the 1st of 2 solos on the recorded version of YGT.
THAT IS, IN FACT, "CHOPS" FAGNET (AS WE REFERRED TO HIM AT DEAR OLD BARD) ON THE RECORDED VERSION OF EGTTM. Accurats assessment Dr. Mu.
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 09:40:00 ET
Posted by: King Biscuit Boy, Hoy Hoy
I've not heard any Fagen solo piano offering that suggests he could handle that last run in the EGTTM solo. I do agree that Doc has the best of intentions and relentless energy but, like most who utilize a strictly academic approach, trusts the accepted (excepted?)dimensions. Who even knows EGTTM was recorded at the Kayt Lied session...maybe that's why they called it Katy Lied.
Those album credits were so highly "coked" in that era that I'd trust few of them as absolute...the ears are a better guage although I sometimes have difficulty with bassists/drummers. The fact that the box sets, hits, etc. still don't show absolute specificity in terms of who played what on what should create more than just a bit of doubt.
Keep up the good work Mu.
Raj, only the big/heavy ones do so.
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 09:09:30 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Wait a minute....
I think the guitar solo on "Night by Night" was credited to Skunk Baxter, and the piano on "Sign in Stranger" was credited to Paul Griffin. Now, they could've been credited incorrectly, but I'm just pointing it out.
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 09:01:29 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Dr Mu,
That's an outstanding job. Even if you may have made a miscalculation or two (and I can't point to any specific one), it looks as though you pretty much nailed it. At least you bring a systematic and detailed approach to the exercise.
Thanks for sharing.
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 02:04:37 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
I think part of the skepticism has to do with the quite false belief that Donald doesn't have the chops. That is a sad *misunderestimation.*
Check out the 1974 Live boots - Part of the Do it Again solo has the signature heard on EGTTM....and if you think Donald's fingers aren't nimble enough, listen to the intro to Dirty Work for a refresher.
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 01:37:40 ET
Posted by: Vegas, Review
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/kats-report/2009/aug/29/reliably-unique-steely-dan-precise-consice-pearl-t/
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 01:24:31 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
S. Teft. Alas, PL, KL, and RS do not have the song by song credits available to accurately. SD Gold, Decade, singles, blogs, my ear the important contribution of a number of folks on the boards, and interviews, have allowed us to put together our own set of credits. I had hoped that when Citizen was released or the 1999 remasters, that a full list of credits would have been released.
100% confidence is not ours. The reverse-engineered list has gone through progressive iterations tentatively approaching the truth, I hope. We're getting closer with PL and RS in this very extended project. Progress has been slow the past few years...the late Don Gronick's contributions on Rhodes in RS may not never be locked down.
KL is a little problematic with the fidelity issues as a result of the ...the outtakes are an aid, but on alternative takes and demos the cast may not be the same. I'm more confident in the Wurli (there's enough of a T. Monk signature) than the bass on EGTTM, which could be Walter rather than Rainey...particularly as the vibes doubles the bass line in the verse. Something in the chorus begs Rainey though. Picking up Felder is tough on the album, because I don't listen to a lot of the Crusaders...
here's a nice isolated track from the Jackson 5 song I Want' You Back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z91l_lPz1oc
Anyway, if you or any other would like to provide valuable input, particularly if you have documentation on the prospective liner notes please feel free:
PRETZEL LOGIC
Rikki Don’t Lose That Number:
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Walter Becker
Acoustic Guitar: Dean Parks
Electric Guitar & Solo: Skunk Baxter
Piano: Michael Omartian
Flapamba: Victor Feldman
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit
Night By Night:
Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Wilton Felder
Guitars: Eliot Randall (solo)
Denny Dias, Skunk Baxter
Clavinet: David Paich
Percussion: Victor Feldman
Sax: Plas Johnson, Ernie Watts
Trumpet: Ollie Mitchell
Trombone: Lew McCreary
Clarinet: Jerome Richardson
Backing Vocals: Tim Schmit, (Sherlie Matthews, Carolyn Willis, Myrna Matthews?? – uncredited)
Any Major Dude:
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Acoustic Guitars: Dean Parks (right channel), Ben Benay (left channel)
Electric guitars: Denny Dias (left channel) Skunk Baxter (right channel + solo – second half doubled up)
Fender Rhodes: Michael Omartian
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine):
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen
Barrytown:
Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Walter Becker
Acoustic guitar: Ben Benay
Electric Guitars: Denny Dias, Dean Parks
Pedal Steel guitar: Skunk Baxter (last verse)
Piano: Michael Omartian
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit
East St. Louis Toodle-oo
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Walter Becker
Wah-wah Guitar: Walter Becker
Pedal Steel guitar: Skunk Baxter
Banjo: Dean Parks
Piano: Donald Fagen
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Alto Sax: Donald Fagen
Parker’s Band:
Drums: Jim Gordon (right channel) & Jeff Porcaro (left channel)
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitars: Denny Dias (left channel), Dean Parks, Walter Becker
Piano: Michael Omartian
Organ: Donald Fagen
Dueling Saxes: Plas Johnson, Ernie Watts
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit, (female - Sherlie Matthews, Carolyn Willis, Myrna Matthews??)
Through With Buzz:
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Piano: Donald Fagen
Fender Rhodes: David Paich?
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen
Orchestration by Jimmie Haskell
Pretzel Logic:
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Wilton Felder
Guitar: Walter Becker (solo) Rhythm guitar – right channel: Dean Parks
Piano: Michael Omartian (left channel)
Wurlitzer piano: Donald Fagen (left channel)
Sax: Plas Johnson
Trumpet: Ollie Mitchell
Trombone: Lew McCreary
Backing vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit
With a Gun:
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Walter Becker
Acoustic Guitars: Dean Parks, Ben Benay
Electric Guitars: Skunk Baxter (good Western flavor)
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit
Charlie Freak:
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitar: Walter Becker (left channel)
Pedal Steel: Skunk Baxter
Piano: Michael Omartian
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen (left channel)
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine, sleigh bells, triangle @ 1:52 mark)
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen
Monkey in Your Soul: (a very underrated song)
Drums: Jim Gordon
Fuzz Bass: Walter Becker
Guitar: Dean Parks (right channel); Walter Becker - solo
Wurlitzer: Donald Fagen
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Saxes: Plas Johnson, Ernie Watts
Percussion: Victor Feldman - handclaps
Backing vocals: Donald Fagen (great echo)
All lead Vocals: Donald Fagen
Orchestration by Jimmie Haskell
KATY LIED
Black Friday:
Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitars: Walter Becker
Keyboards: David Paich (right channel?), Michael Omartian (left channel?)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald
Bad Sneakers:
Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Hugh McCracken
Walter Becker (solo)
Piano: Michael Omartian
Percussion: Victor Feldman
Vibes: Victor Feldman
Backing vocals: Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald
Rose Darling:
Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Larry Carlton (acoustic & electric – left channel), Dean Parks (electric & solo – right channel)
Piano: Michael Omartian
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald
Daddy Don’t Live in That New York City No More:
Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitars: Elliot Randall, Walter Becker, Larry Carlton?
Piano: Michael Omartian
Organ: Donald Fagen
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen
Doctor Wu:
Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Larry Carlton
Piano: Michael Omartian
Fender Rhodes: David Paich
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Saxophone: Phil Woods
Percussion: Victor Feldman (chimes)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen
Everyone’s Gone to the Movies:
Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Dorophone: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Walter Backer
Electric Piano: Donald Fagen
Organ: Donald Fagen
Saxophone: Donald Fagen
Percussion: Victor Feldman (maracas, congas)
Vibes: Victor Feldman
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen, Sherlie Matthews, Carolyn Willis, Myrna Matthews
Your Gold Teeth II:
Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Denny Dias
Piano: Michael Omartian
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Vibes: Victor Feldman
Backing vocals: Donald Fagen
Chain Lightning:
Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Wilton Felder
Guitars: Rick Derringer (both 9 and 11 o’clock)
Fender Rhodes: Michael Omartian
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen
Any World (That I’m Welcome To):
Drums: Hal Blaine
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Larry Carlton, Elliott Randall
Piano: David Paich
Organ: Donald Fagen
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine)
Backup Vocals: Michael McDonald
Throw Back the Little Ones
Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitar: Walter Becker. Elliott Randall
Piano: Michael Omartian
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Horns: Jimmie Haskell, Bill Perkins
All lead Vocals: Donald Fagen
Horns arranged by Jimmie Haskell
THE ROYAL SCAM
Kid Charlemagne:
Drums: Bernard “Pretty” Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Larry Carlton
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Clavinet: Paul Griffin
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald, Venetta Fields, Clydie King, Sherlie Matthews
Caves of Altamira:
Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Walter Becker
Piano: Donald Fagen
Fender Rhodes: Paul Griffin
Trumpet: Chuck Findley, Bob Findley
Trombone: Slyde Hyde
Sax: Plas Johnson, Jim Horn
Solo Sax: John Klemmer
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Timothy B. Schmit
Don’t Take Me Alive:
Drums: Rick Marotta
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Larry Carlton (solo)
Dean Parks (rhythm)
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Timothy B. Schmit
Sign in Stranger:
Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Elliott Randall, Walter Becker, Denny Dias (outtro)
Piano: Victor Feldman
Trumpet: Chuck Findley, Bob Findley
Trombone: Slyde Hyde
Sax: Plas Johnson
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Timothy B. Schmit
The Fez:
Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Elliott Randall
Piano: Paul Griffin
Organ: Paul Griffin
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Trumpet: Chuck Findley, Bob Findley
Trombone: Slyde Hyde
Sax: Plas Johnson, Ernie Watts
Percussion: Victor Feldman (maracas)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Timothy B. Schmit, Michael McDonald
Green Earrings:
Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Elliott Randall - left channel
Hugh McCracken – rhythm guitar
Larry Carlton - solo1st section
Denny Dias – 2nd and 3rd sections
Clavinet: Paul Griffin
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine, triangle, maracas)
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit
Haitian Divorce:
Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Dean Parks (solo talk box)
Walter Becker (talk box voicings)
Larry Carlton (rhythm)
Piano: Donald Fagen
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Sax: Jim Horn, Plas Johnson
Backup Vocals: Venetta Fields, Clydie King, Sherlie Matthews
Everything You Did:
Drums: Rick Marotta
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitars: Larry Carlton (solo), Walter Becker (left channel)
Piano: Donald Fagen
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Organ: Paul Griffin
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen, Timothy B. Schmit, Michael McDonald
Royal Scam:
Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitar: Larry Carlton
Piano: Donald Fagen
Organ: Paul Griffin
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Percussion: Victor Feldman (blocks, tambourine)
Dueling muted trumpets: Chuck Findley, Bob Findley
Trombone: Slyde Hyde
Sax: Jim Horn, Plas Johnson
Backup Vocals: Venetta Fields, Clydie King, Sherlie Matthews
Date: Mon, August 31, 2009, 01:00:44 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Bisqui: You lost any credibility with the YGTI solo quip...that's Fagen all the way. Do it Again and the outtake with piano are my basis of comparison even more than YGTI.
Besides, Feldman did not receive credit for any keyboard work on KL.
Here are the credits from the original liner notes:
"PERSONNEL
Guitars: Denny Dias, Walter Becker, Rick Derringer,
Dean Parks, Elliot Randall, Hugh McCracken,
Larry Carlton
**Piano and Various Keyboards: Michael Omartian, Donald Fagen, David Paich**
Bass: Walter Becker, Chuck Rainey, Wilton Felder
Drums and Dorophone: Jeff Porcaro; Drums on "Any World (That I'm
Welcome To)": Hal Blaine
Percussion and vibes: Victor Feldman
Vocals: Donald Fagen
Backup Vocals: Mike McDonald
Backup vocals on "Everyone's Gone To
The Movies": Sherlie Mathews, Carolyn Willis,
Myrna Mathews;
Horns on "Throw Back The Little Ones"
arranged by Jimmie Haskel
Alto solo on "Doctor Wu":
Phil Woods
Furthermore, these are a number of SD songs with the Wurli 200A electric piano including: "Godwhacker", "Do It Again," "Dirty Work" "Jack Of Speed", "Two Against Nature", "Your Gold Teeth," "Slang of Ages," "Jack of Speed," "Cousin Dupree," "Janie Runaway," "Lunch with Gina," "Last Mall," and "Everyone's Gone To The Movies." Fagen I believe plays them all, except for TAN, which is Michael Leonhart. Donald loves the freakin' thing!
Feldman of course does play piano magnificently on SiS and I Got the News...and the epic EP solo on Black Cow.
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 23:34:50 ET
Posted by: hank,
Yes Joey, You are a treasure...a treasure I'd like to bury! You're so freaking annoying!
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 23:15:38 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
In most (if not all) of the SD shows I attended (and the one DF show, too) the bass has always been poorly mixed and/or a bit muddy. Even in the shows with otherwise great sound.
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 22:54:34 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
And F. Washington's bass was muddy as well for some of the DF Band shows I attended in 2006. I don't know what it has to do with (the technical reasons) but it's been noticeable.
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 20:39:58 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
Addendum:
I meant to say "at all four Beacon shows that I attended - July 28, August 10, 11 & 12."
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 20:39:22 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
Freddie' bass was MUD at all 4 Beacon shows as well. I was way the hell upstairs for all of them, so maybe it's not a fair comment, but I didn't pay attention to the bass at all. Except for his unfortunate slap/pop solo during the band intro. How inappropriate! It was a 180 from how he played the rest of the night!
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 19:52:51 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" You are a treasure, Joey! The Blue Book wouldn't be the same with all the laughter you bring us. You belong in the Steely Dan Fan Hall of Fame.
We are proud to know you. "
Bless You Marsha ..... you are much loved by the Joey .
However , after reading some of the below postings , I believe there are some ' imposter Joey's ' hanging around the Blue as THIS Joey is definitely straight .
Anyway , my Rajah is the finest poster on the web and that is why this board ROCKS !!!!!!!!!!!
J FLY ! ™
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 18:47:31 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
My God/ just listened to Royal Scam on my Bose headphones and in 5 days am going to see the best band in the fucking world!! And surely life is sweet. We lose track sometimes/ its all about Don and Walt . If we get to far out there sometimes go back and listen to this shit absoulute incredible. Black Friday is the most schitzoprenic [sic] guitar solo I ever heard but it works. I am so excited I cant even spell. I am so excited I feel like Joey. Save me Little Wild One!!!
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 18:29:28 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I've just listened to Everyone's Gone to the Movies like 17 times just now. King Bisquit may be right. Those just don't sound like Donald's fingers on the bridge. Too fast and supple. Mu, could you be wrong on this one?
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 16:35:46 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
The cojones shriveled? Well, they do kinda hang down a little more here lately as I trundle off into my Silver Years.
I trust Mu's excellent analysis always. He has a passion for this stuff.
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 15:42:16 ET
Posted by: S. Teft,
Doc Mu -
How do you know that your personnel listing for EGTTM is accurate?
I do agree w/ you that that is DF on the solo.
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 14:59:21 ET
Posted by: King Biscuit Boy, Hoy Hoy
Do Mu's wrong, Raj, so don't let him talk you out of that fact that it's Vic Feldman (listen to that last run and tell me DF could play that so smoothly). Doc's basing his assumption on YGT's solo and who says that's DF playing that one? DF is a ham-fisted soloist (picture orchestra chimes technique on piano sans mallets).
Am I the first to make the motion that Doc Mu keep his ill-founded and misbegotten opinions to himself? He's proven before he's of tin ear.
Raj, have the cojones shriveled, my friend?
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 14:36:35 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I actually thought it was Victor Feldman, I stand corrected.
Omartian, I think, was the finest keyboard man they ever employed. He had an elegant and highly articulated touch and they recorded him so well. But Baker and Beard ain't chopped liver either. Like to hear Charlap take a proper turn on the next album. We live in hope. Donald uses the ivories like they were a percussion instrument. He's a blues man for sure. He did some very nice things on the Piano Jazz record, though. Donald is a student of 20th century American jazz. Still would really like to hear him with Wally on bass, Keith on drums and Jon on a Django-style acoustic sometime, doing the old standards that I love so well. Hestitation Blues. I'd sell my grandmother for that show...oh, wait, she died 40 years ago. Still.
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 14:25:24 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
The Casino shows are what they are. If you have no chance of seeing them anywhere else, they are just fine. Expect a lot of Aja and greatest hits and no rare cuts...they just don't have the time.
I saw them at Chumash in 2007 and it's up there as one of my favorites. Why, because many of us hardcore fans ended up dancing on the side of the room, for the last few songs. Then we got to the front of the stage, by Jon Herington, to watch the encore, My Old School. Anytime I can dance to Steely Dan, I am a happy girl. :-)
SS: Glad you enjoyed. :-)
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 13:27:27 ET
Posted by: Kids if you want some fun....,
stay away from the casino shows.
We got short changed for the money we paid!
"the plug gets pulled at 90 minutes"
-you got that right!
Beautiful venue. The sound was awesome. The performance was top notch. But way too short.
Concert was over by 10pm!
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 12:47:04 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
EGTTM:
That is definitely Fagen on the solo. He also plays the sax on this one.
Everyone’s Gone to the Movies:
Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Dorophone: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Walter Backer
Electric Piano: Donald Fagen
Organ: Donald Fagen
Saxophone: Donald Fagen
Percussion: Victor Feldman (maracas, congas)
Vibes: Victor Feldman
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen, Sherlie Matthews, Carolyn Willis, Myrna Matthews
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 12:15:15 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" the plug gets pulled at 90 minutes..... a full 7 or 8 tunes shorter than The Aja show at the Gibson we were at the week prior. Took 'em a while to get Donald Mic up loud enough.. but they NEVER got the girls mixed right... AND just like the Alladin thing three years ago.. the sound on Freddie Washington's Bass was HORRIBLE.. while the bass was was up ...there was NO definition.. couldn't hear what he was playing just a big rumble down there.. HATED IT.. "
This makes young Joey cry .
Why ?!
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 12:06:39 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
Hey, it's always been medical.
Angel, thanks for posting that youtube clip of Dr. Wu. I think that was you or someone in your party shooting it. Major thanks for eliminating the camera shake that usually accompanies youtube concert clips.
What was really clear was that DF's voice was just fine. No trouble at all with the notes and lots of juice behind them. That was reassuring to see/hear.
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 10:55:38 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
From the Las Vegas Sun review of the Pearl show:
*Steely Dan has the elusive 40- to 70- demo covered, as its fan base moves from recreational to medical marijuana use*
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 08:30:44 ET
Posted by: B Olin,
Rajah -
Was it you who once said that Michael Omartian played the electric piano solo on the recorded version of "Everyone's Gone to The Movies?"
Why do I think that DF solos on that one (his kind of note choices/chordal blocks of sound, etc.)
Thanks
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 04:59:29 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Any info on a meeting place/ or Danfest for Motown? I keep checking to see if Little Wild One posts. The hour and a half casino talk bums me out but my buddy tells me that it is law/ nothing stops the machine from yanking your hard earned piasters from your pocket. I know/ we could have picked a diff venue but this is the closer!! I hope to meet some of the fine Danfans from the Blue[ Little Wild One] [Hoops] Joey is indded a legend but after the last few posts I think I can hold off on meeting him. I hope that does not make Joeys bowels spasm.
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 02:11:02 ET
Posted by: Lester, Utah
Ok.. I was at the Pearl Saturday night... standard casino length show ... the plug gets pulled at 90 minutes..... a full 7 or 8 tunes shorter than The Aja show at the Gibson we were at the week prior. Took 'em a while to get Donald Mic up loud enough.. but they NEVER got the girls mixed right... AND just like the Alladin thing three years ago.. the sound on Freddie Washington's Bass was HORRIBLE.. while the bass was was up ...there was NO definition.. couldn't hear what he was playing just a big rumble down there.. HATED IT.. Because before you add all the cool changes and rich arrangements and lush vocals... steely dan has always been about a HUGE GROOVE.. and how do you do that if the bass is real mushy... interestingly though, Keith Carlock's bass drum came though just fine...
Overall they played pretty good.. but all in all... I've gotta rank it last in the 10 shows SD shows we've been to over the years... yeah... sorry....
Stay away from the SD Vegas shows!
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 00:46:39 ET
Posted by: Tom Hayes, San Diego
I just got back from Vegas.
I love The Pearl Venue. Fagen's vocals were way higher in the mix than at the Gibson Aja night and I think he sounded better because of it.
The show was about 20 minutes shorter than I expected, and My Old School was sorely missed. I was hoping for Green Earrings too, but we did get lot of hits.
I am hoping they tour again soon and come to San Diego - my mother would like to see them - but she doesn't travel to see concerts.
Date: Sun, August 30, 2009, 00:02:47 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben , Tall County AR
Mr. Ray from west of LA: Those Gibson DD's are some good burgers, dude.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 23:26:04 ET
Posted by: r , r
raji - you been gone to long boy. thanks for the wiki, but we're livin it.
yes, given the truth we americans will side with what's right and cool most of the time.
but we are bought, paid for and propagandaed-silly.
change; we crave the good stuff. but your change agent is chump - a corporate puppet.
read naomi wolf's 10 steps, brother, and live well.
papa gotabranewbag
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 20:04:25 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Gus - Um... is there any way
we other fans could see your
your pics from that new camera
from the Gibson's shows?
BTW - Don't worry. My memory
is slowly going also. I just
also realized I forgot to
mention Larry Carlton's growling
solo on Do It Again Tuesday night.
Best way to expalin it is that he
almost sounded like Mark Knopfler
but with a Larry Carlton flair.
Really a nice & unique take on that
tune.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 19:36:09 ET
Posted by: Dan Fan Forever, Big Bear California
Wow...Gus, wish I were there man! Sounds like a great "wind-down" to the Gibson shows, which were incredible. Please forward your pics from that new camera to me when you get back. I so enjoyed the one you sent this week. Have it posted on my "Steely Dan" wall in my office. Have a great weekend...
Dan Fan Forever...
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 18:00:57 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks for the Vega set list & nice report Gus. Yeah, that is why I stay away from Vegas/Casino shows if I have other choices. Especially when tickets are $200+! Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Detroit unfortunately also a “casino” show this year? You are correct sir about both versions of Dirty Work in LA, just gorgeous.
angel – Sorry we didn’t get a chance to meet, but then again I am “Lurker Ray” ;O) Your ranking of the four shows in LA is spot on. That’s also what I got on my score card. I would have bet money that “Royal Scam” night would have been higher in my tally especially given the fact that D&W have said that it was the top seller early on. Proof positive of just how much SoCal loves Aja & Gaucho.
Raj has asked for some further info on Dr Wu Tuesday night in LA. Here’s my take -They song has only been played 4 times before hitting LA. Every time building on previous nights gains. You would expect “opening night” jitters like what others have reported went down in Boston, then unfortunately Donald became very ill in NYC but soldiered on like the trooper he is. Youtube videos are never a good audio document but they are good Cliff Notes of what actually went down. One would have to agree with kzkz about the various level problems at the Beacon. The final take in NYC is just a approximation of what finally evolved on the fifth try in Hollywood. Given a healthy Donald Fagen, singing with depth and clarity and actually putting some sweet nuances behind his phrasing and the stellar acoustics of the Gibson, the song really “Arrived” Tuesday night. Not to mention by the reaction of the audiences both in LA & NYC - THEY ARE ONLY PLAYING THIS FOR US HARDCORE FANS. It is a gift. There is no way it is even a top vote getter. Bank on it. The average Steely Dan Fan could care less if they hear the song. And it showed. kzkz even has footage of people taking a beer break during it in NYC.
Of course they have created a “touring” version of the song! All Steely Dan songs on tour are “touring versions”! I personally wouldn’t want the band to try and be a “cover band”. That sh*t would blow. A band has to take a tune and make it their own. That is what has finally become of Dr Wu. Though we probably after Chicago won’t hear it again. I’ve had the great pleasure of watching this song evolve into the masterpiece we saw in LA all the way from the sound check at Soboba in 06. No Steely Dan song live will ever sound the same as it did on vinyl. But I’ve heard live versions that I thought surpassed the original. Case and point Monday & Tuesday night at Universal we had the pleasure of watching THE GREAT Larry Carlton do Third World Man, a song he helped create! And it was mesmerizing. But truth be told, I thought the four versions I got to hear on The Fagen 06 Solo tour with Krantz & Jon were better.
What we heard at the Gibson Tuesday and other recollections –
Dr Wu – Jon’s haunting guitar work, working the volume peddle to create those familiar lines that almost sound like he was sitting down at a peddle steel guitar. He was perfectly set in the mix and not lost. Jim Beard’s gorgeous piano work. No he’s not Michael O he is JIM BEARD. Donald’s spot on vocals. “Stung out here all night, waiting for the taste…Biscayne Bay to Katy lied” – just emotional spot on brilliance. And as previously mentioned Walt W. Every note he played was true. Can you hear me Dr? Well now thanks to Youtube you can hear it for yourself, in “Youtube sound” - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_6HewP8LtI
Rikki – “Finally!” Screamed the woman down from me as tears streamed down her face as she was finally being transported to another place & time.
Black Friday - The longest intro vamp ever.
Walter Becker’s set at the IMROV during Hey 19 – Though much has already been reported, here is an additional recollection – “You bring your girl down here and you spend about $1100 dollars on tickets and after the show you take her to a little bar on Ventura Blvd. and Spyro Gyra is playing on the PA”.
And finally –
My “lover” called yesterday. She wants me 20th row center in Chicago on Friday night. Separation anxiety is a bitch. Thanks to Dr. “Tom” Wu & the ever wonderful dandom digest created by hoops...
...the Dude abides
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 17:35:57 ET
Posted by: angel, Still In LA
I too read Ken Levine daily. I don't say it's perfect, but I find it of interest, most times and continue to come back, day after day. Maybe it's that I live in LA and understand it a bit better? IDK.
To each his own.
When I finally read the post today (Friday is always a hectic day at work), I found it of interest and then understood why it was posted here. The Brill Building and it's residents, are definitely of at least a casual interest to This Dan Fan. By the way, my thought was that it was a good thing for this Dan Lover, that the guys ended up at the very end of The Brill Building experience. I like them as they turned out, rather then a nameless songwriter, cranking out hits.
Enough from me...
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 17:16:32 ET
Posted by: angel,
Wu - LA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_6HewP8LtI
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 16:57:55 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
No, Ricky, America is never going to embrace Fascism. Brief history lesson here, the, "fasces," were basically a bundle of birch rods that symbolized for the ancient Romans, the togetherness, the solidarity of the citizens. They were carried into a formal hearing on law, they were also augmented by axe-heads stuck into them. When the Consul of the Roman people and later, the Emperors, walked into a room, two Centurions would carry them and whatever the leader said in their presence was law. But America is bigger, more diverse and just more intelligent and strong to let any one person or party to which any one voice can dictate. You have no idea how much the world was shocked and awed by our election of this President. A great declaration that American people are not afraid of change...great change.
Fascism? Never in our great nation. We are independent spirits. Always will be.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 16:53:17 ET
Posted by: R.I.P., uh, OK...
(Upfront apologies to Hoops and I completely understand if you see fit to remove this post... For what it's worth as background, I'm someone who used to post here more often on a semi-regular basis, but voluntarily withdrew due to growing tired of the nonsense that all too often creeps in for long stretches. I still visit to read, but mainly just to extract the wheatful information from among the chaffy petty sniping and assorted see-how-clever-I-am nonsense.)
_______________
KD: My responses are...
1. Sigh.
2. Whatever.
3. I read Mr. Levine's blog everyday and have done so for at least a couple years. If he's ever posted anything racist, borderline or otherwise, I simply failed to notice or possibly chalked it up to an attempt at humor. He IS a comedy writer. (And I'm not necessarily saying I that all his humor attempts tickle my own funny bone.) Or maybe I'm just ignorantly oblivious. I find Sasha Baron Cohen's (to name just one current example of one of many "shock" comedians over the years) work far more offensive, tasteless, and just plain not funny. But a lot of folks seem to like what he does so... [shrug] Heck, for that matter I often find far more offensive (or perhaps tasteless) stuff than Mr. Levine's posted right here to the Blue. Personally, I just ignore it.
I'm not calling you out, KD, and saying you're wrong about Mr. Levine. I don't know definitively one way or the other. I'm just saying I myself am not aware of any such history of his. Nor is this the time and place for not-even-close-to-Dangential argument/debate start up. We just disagree. Perhaps we have different interpretations or, more likely, different personal experiences built up with re to Mr. Levine's work and/or writings. Like, for instance, personally I don't read Huffington Post so I have no idea what he may have written for them (unless I've seen him also reference it on his blog in which case probably whatever it was didn't bother me).
4. I've been a fan of many of Mr. Levine's TV projects over the years. Humor can be subjective (See SBC reference above). It can even deal with race issues. Sometimes the point can be to be offensive to some extent so that later plot developments can illuminate the issue all the more and emphatically underline the wrongness. Not knowing to what exactly you're referring (fiction/comedy or fact/opinion pieces, though probably the latter) I can't say if you're thinking of such instances or not. I would hope you'd be very aware of that possibility, but I can't know so I just throw it out there. Also, characters in a story are not necessarily indicative of a writer's views/beliefs. As Steely Dan fans I think we're all very aware of that fact.
5. (And this is probably most relevant for the moment, so I'll capitalize it simply for extra emphasis...) WAS MR. LEVINE'S SPECIFIC POST ABOUT MS. GREENWICH IN ANY WAY OFFENSIVE TO YOU, RACIALLY, ETHNICALLY, OR OTHERWISE? I honestly can't see how it could be so I don't understand why you would even bother to broach the subject here, especially when my post was obviously (at least I think so) meant to shine a memorial light of recognition and appreciation on Ms. Greenwich, her work and her life.
6. At the time I posted it, I thought that including the bit by Mr. Levine was just a nice little side story adding a personal touch to the story of Ms. Greenwich's life and passing. With references to the musical era and the famed Brill building, I thought it would be of enough interest to many Dan fans. I never dreamed that anyone reading it would have even a slight problem (for any reason) with me posting it.
I'm not saying this one instance is such a big deal in and of itself (it's not) and I'm not saying KD was in super attack mode or anything like that in the way he (I'm guessing w/re to the pronoun) phrased it. But the mere fact of even a hint of a negative light being cast however slightly on something that was obviously meant in such a positive way is why I (and many others, I think) go through such periods of weariness concerning the manner of public discourse here on the Blue. It really does make me wonder... Why bother at all? That the only response to my post noting Ms. Greenwich's passing so far is tinged with such negativity is indicative or something, I think, though I'm not quite sure what...
Again, apologies to Hoops because I know he definitively frowns on this sort of thing (rightly so imo), but the more I encounter such out-of-the-blue negativity, the more wearying it becomes. That's really all I have to say. I guess I just wanted to convey my general feeling of that, that's all...
I'm just saying that imo I think it would be generally helpful for posters to try to be good stewards of the Blue, doing their best to promote an atmosphere conducive to a courteous and respectful exchange of ideas, opinions, and information (especially concering things musical). I just don't see how pointing out a perceived negative angle to such a minor sub-point to the obvious intent of the original post was in any way helpful or that it contributed anything additional of note.
Please consider this as generally constructive criticism or at the very least just some commentary that may be representative of a possibly valid viewpoint even if you disagree... Or not and just flame away if you must (for your own inner reasons), but for Hoops' sake I hope not. I, for one, am moving on and going back to pure skimming mode. I've dipped down far enough (too far) into my own well of negativity this once and all the while I know in my pessimistic heart it isn't even worth bothering. But I've typed it all out now, so take it for what it's worth... If you feel it's worth absolutely nothing, then may I suggest that might be an ideal method of response (but I realize that's not my call to make)...
Ignore this, discuss it, agree with it, disagree with it, whatever---I honestly don't care.
Have a great weekend everybody. I'm envious of those who have been Wu'd thus far, but even more than that I'm so HAPPY for them to have finally gotten the taste we didn't know if Don & Walt would ever bring. Any Wu is good Wu in my book.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 16:45:52 ET
Posted by: angel, Smoky Saturday in LA
With All: Casino shows are limited to 90 Minutes, to get the gamblers back out on the floor. D and W have nothing to do with that.
Detroit will be the same way...trust me.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 16:02:28 ET
Posted by: ricky, ricardo
i always gotta 'splain everything to you folks!
D&W were in possession of a time machine and went forward to 2009.
dr wu is about michael jackson's doctor/murderer
katy being mJ's mother katherine. the dr came into his life when he was broke.
given their reluctance to perform it, the stoopid song was/is KATY LIED
take it from there - you are smart people (well, not really).
http://www.alternet.org/politics/141819/is_the_u.s._on_the_brink_of_fascism/
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 15:11:15 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Never thought about it, but I guess there are a LOT of people (me, me, pick me) who, after Thirty+ years have thought more about track 5 than WB or DF ever did.
Sort of an interesting literary device: a first person one person ditty, yet Katy is the heroine of a tale that smacks of the stylized diatribe of alter-egos.
Seems no matter how nasty the silver bowl gets, you might still catch a glimpse of that other guy who drops in to pick up your rinse if nothing else.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 14:37:02 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu,
Wow, Doc Mu.
My analysis of your analysis is that you've given more thought to this song than Becker and Fagen ever did in creating it.
By their own admission D and W created characters who were composites. Dr. Wu might be a nod to Quing Non Yng-Wong, or may have used him as a starting point, but those are just details to describe a situation.
I currently know a person whose real name/title is Dr. Wu for whom this song is, sadly and hilariously, an accurate description of his circumstances, and no heroin is involved. The beauty of Steely Dan songs, and all great art, is that it is not locked into one meaning - it starts from a reference and expands from there.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 13:32:58 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Nice analysis, Mu. I've been trying to figure this song out for almost 35 years. It's still unclear to me. There's the stuff, the singer, Katy, Dr. Wu but as time goes by I find it hard to differentiate. So uncharacteristically personal. Haunting.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 13:24:44 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu , other side of no tomorrow
"Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 01:15:32 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben , Tall County AR
The protagonist IS Dr. Wu. And hell is not so permanent or ultimately unendurable as a body might think. It's like the Imagination Movers' Idea Warehouse: it's just "the hell room" of this all-too-mobile home."
This is embarrassing, given that Dr. Fagen was an English major. The protagonist is the main character of a story. The story in the song Dr Wu is told in the first person, and protagonist here is a heroin addict with a girlfriend/friend named Katy. Dr. Wu aka Quing Non Yng-Wong or Bob Wong was an artist who learned and practiced traditional Chinese medicine and acupuncture in Washington DC back in the 70s. Dr Wu "treated" a lot of Hollywood-type patients for addictions to heroin, etc. Dr. Wu achieved almost mythical status during this time with the hipsters in rehabbing drug addicts.
In this particular song, Dr Wu is almost an abstract, someone who the addict and Katy clearly have talked about...and who appears to have made an initial visit. Without follow-ups, the protagonist is again in a bad place. He's Jones-ing as Dr. Wu has pulled no miracle. He sends Katy out for a Fix.
Instead a man in white enters the room. Is it Dr Wu...back to save him? NO! Katy has "betrayed" the addict and the men in the white coats drag the addict now screaming [listen to the outtro] into the ambulance for a trip to a Psychiatric Institution for a bit of 1970s Western medicine and a very painful and prolonged detox.
LYRICS
Katy tried
[There are arguments that Katy is a figment, but I'll hang onto the postulate that she's a friend/girlfriend who has been attempting to intervene with the addict's habit
I was halfway crucified
[needlemarks on one arm...he's to the point where he's been using a foot as the veins are collapsing]
I was on the other side
Of no tomorrow
[dude, he was WAY gone - this is a very serious addition]
You walked in
And my life began again
Just when I'd spent the last piaster
I could borrow
[He can hardly afford the fixes from the dealers who up the $$ as the he is gripped by the addiction. Katy has brought in the guru of natural detox, Dr. Wu, to the rescue]
All night long
We would sing that stupid song
And every word we sang
I knew was true
[The addict doesn't quite buy into a quick fix of Eastern herbs, acupuncture, and chants...but this is intoxicating in it's own manner!! Da Boyz are having a bit of fun at the expense of 70s pop culture in their inimitable dark manner]
Are you with me Doctor Wu
Are you really just a shadow
Of the man that I once knew
Are you crazy are you high
Or just an ordinary guy
Have you done all you can do
Are you with me Doctor
[That's it? One night of intervention is supposed to miraculously cure me?]
***In my view hat the Woods sax solo represents in a sense is the mystical Song the addict hears and sings with Wu and Katy...a Nirvana to rescue him away from the throes of a serious addiction****
Don't seem right
I've been strung out here all night
[Hold the phone! A classic Steely Dan twist. The demons are back and badder than ever. Seems this intervention has only drained the addict of his last piaster. He's Jonesing - BAD!]
I've been waiting for the taste
You said you'd bring to me
[Katy promises that if things get worse she'll score just a Small amount of horse. Just a little bit, ya know, to tide him over.]
Biscayne Bay
Where the Cuban gentlemen sleep all day
I went searching for the song
You used to sing to me
[Those nights Katy got him through - can he get himself back to that place]
Katy lies
You could see it in her eyes
[Where is Katy...no fix...something's fishy here...is the paranoia setting in justified]
But imagine my surprise
When I saw you
[In his addled state, a shining man in a white coat arrives - yes, it's Dr. Wu!]
Are you with me Doctor Wu
Are you really just a shadow
Of the man that I once knew
She is lovely yes she's sly
And you're an ordinary guy
[Hey, wait, coming out of the haze he realizes this doesn't look like the Doctor Wu he once met]
Has she finally got to you?
[Has Katy convinced you to use a more Western approach...or have you changed]
Can you hear me Doctor?
Are you with me Doctor?
Can you hear me Doctor?
Are you with me Doctor?
Can you hear me Doctor?
Are you with me Doctor?!
Can you hear me Doctor?!!
Are you with me Doctor?!!!
Can you hear me Doctor?!!!!
[note the growing hysteria - the addict realizes that Katy is sending him to the Funny Farm for old fashioned cold turkey or methadone detox. Once doped. Now duped! Good times are not ahead...]
So you see Raj, the song *must* end here...they're coming to take me away..ha ha No one does Greek Tragedy like Steely Dan.
Fin
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 12:22:20 ET
Posted by: KD, o-l-l
R.I.P. -- Doesn't take away from how we should remember Ellie, but Levine has written some pretty awful, borderline racist things in his life. I understand that he has to deal with intolerance in his own life, but that doesn't excuse some of the (rather shocking, if I'm honest) things he's penned on his blog and on Huffington Post.
The Carlton thing seems silly. I'm sure he's absolutely loving his time on stage, and while I don't like bringing this up ... how much money is this guy costing Steely Dan? Yes, we're paying big money for these tickets, but there's also a huge chance Don and Walt are paying quite a bit for his time on stage, and that Larry is making far less money than he would on his own stage, with his own gig (Fourplay or otherwise).
Does this excuse clams? No. Should we make every excuse for the guy or the band for not being perfectly prepared, just because we never thought a pairing like this would come about? No.
But think about where we're at, here. 20 years ago, did any of you ever think you'd get the chance to see a well-honed live act under the name "Steely Dan," playing mostly album cuts, with Larry Carlton on stage as a THIRD guitarist? 30 years ago? 15 years ago? Last June?
There's bound to be a mistake. I muffed the second verse of IGY in the car yesterday, despite listening to it for the trillionth time.
I'm just saying we have it pretty good. Tickets could be cheaper, The Boston Rag could open every show, the beer could be under five bucks, and the parking could be free. A lot could be better.
But this is pretty damned good. Pretty, pretty good.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 12:08:15 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Hate LC - I can't add anything to the righteous indignation below, but Carlton's still got it. Everyone fucks up here and there, even the pros. I wouldn't call it sloppyness - more like some difficulty executing a solo he improvised 30+ years ago. its cases like that where one wrong note can trigger mishap after mishap. It's also pretty likely that without Youtube no one would have ever known about it. Don and Walt have fuck ups like that very regularly - Walt hits a ton of sour notes and Don forgets vocals left and right. Doesn't take away from the night in the slightest; it's the reality of live performance.
Although I am an avid collector of live shows, in methods that range from legal to semi legal to definitely not legal, I have to say that there is something to be said (ha) for the belief that a live performance shouldn't exist beyond the moment, as "the moment" is what a live performance is all about.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 11:00:15 ET
Posted by: In defense of Larry C. the great musician and person,
Dear Hate LC -
You are a total asshole. How dare you make fun of/ mock Larry Carlton!
Who The Fuck Are You to do that? Let's see your ass up there playing that solo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After all the great playing Larry's given us you're going to complain about a little "deviation"/ small mishap maybe during a live show???
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 10:56:26 ET
Posted by: With All, Due Respect
If I remember correctly, festivals have a single admission price per day to see numerous acts so it's a very different setting and one where you'd expect there to be limitations to the number of tunes played. Don't know about Casino shows. Mr. GW did not elaborate on pricing for the casino gig so maybe there's a discount when attending in that setting. As was said, more informed opinions are welcomed by yours truly.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 10:20:29 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
I think the Casino/Festival shows always tend to be shorter. More informed people can explain the reason for this, but I imagine it has to do with being part of a lineup.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 10:16:22 ET
Posted by: With All, Due Respect
14 tunes is way too short for a SD show considering the pricing level, depth of catalog, lack of new material, etc. I do not think perspective much matters when arriving at that conclusion. This short set criticism has been hotly debated here and, to his credit, Mr. GW seems the least fervent of those defending so allow me to respectfully offer a different way to think of this conundrum to illustrate my point. If you were to have paid $12-$16 for, say, the EMG CD only to find out that there were just 15 minutes of content, would perspective matter? OK die-hard deenders, what if your friend's copy contained the entire 45 or so minutes while your copy only contained the 15 mins...how's that perspective working for you now? There are quality, quantity and CONSISTENCY measures/expectations up and down the line and I find it difficult to judge fairly SD's application of all of those standards at each and every performance this tour. I would also say it's a given expectation that they be "on" every night. I think this short-shrifting bodes poorly for the remaining single night gigs (frankly, that's why I chose not to attend this year).
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 09:31:18 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Gus,
Outstanding report, as always.
Thanks for sharing.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 08:12:52 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Las Vegas, NV
Pearl at the Palms, Las Vegas, Nevada setlist and report:
Intro: Teenie's Blues
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen (no WB discussion)
Black Cow
Dirty Work
Bodhisattva
Do It Again
Peg
Love Is Like An Itchin' In My Heart/Band Intros
Babylon Sisters
Aja
Daddy Don't Live... (WB Vocals)
Josie
Don't Take Me Alive
Kid Charlemagne
Encore: Reelin' In The Years (Original Version)
Outro: Last Tango
Yes, I know what you are thinking: "Fourteen songs; that's it??" While in general I would agree that this is too short, it depends on your perspective. If I had not seen any other show this year, or maybe only one of the Gibson shows, I would have been very disappointed. With all four shows already under my belt, this show was the perfect positive reinforcement. So my view is not likely to be the norm. Having said that, what this show lacked in quantity was largely compensated by the quality of the performance. These guys (and gals) are ON.
Some song-by-song observations, where I have something specific to say:
Black Friday: Jon is on, as usual.
Hey 19: Pugh has a nice solo at the end; sounds as good as ever.
Black Cow: This was the first song that I noticed that Donald's vocals seemed strong. Prior to this I had not really been paying attention, but did not notice any weaknesses. Rosenberg solo to close this was solid.
Dirty Work: Just before starting this, Donald said, "We're going to do an old one..." and then stopped when a fan near him said something I could not hear. Then Donald said, "Well, yes, they're all old, but this one is oldER". That may not be perfect quote, but it captures the spirit. The band then played a carbon copy of the great version I heard Tuesday at the Gibson. Jon set the mood beautifully, followed by the ladies vocal interplay, and capped with Leonhart's soul-wrenching solo. You might have guessed that I much prefer Dirty Work to Parker's Band as a spotlight song for the ladies.
Bodhisattva: This one got the first, slight move toward a standing ovation.
Do It Again: Walter Becker opened this nicely, and Jon handled the remaining solos as well as I can recall hearing.
Peg: Jon continues to innovate the solo, sometimes using one part of the Graydon original, and other times others. No two seem completely alike, (at least within the last five shows). All the while he makes it look so easy.
Aja: The band executes this song so consistently well that I can hardly ever find anything to say about a specific performance. Both Carlock and Walt W. nailed this one, as usual.
DTMA and Kid C: Jon excelled on both of these.
Reelin': Jon nails this one as well; crowd on its feet the whole time, I think.
After Last Tango was completed, this crowd was the first one I can recall which was, in large part, cheering for an additional encore. At least that was my observation from the floor; lots of people around me were not ready to leave. Lots of energy, but ill-timed.
The overall energy level of the crowd was, from my vantage point, less than at any of the Gibson shows. A possibly relevant observation: there were a lot of "fashionably late" attendees. This may have been the cause of the late start (about 20 minutes past the 8:00 PM schedule): the place was just not full enough to start on time. That said, there were a lot of serious SD fans in the house; we spoke with a number of them.
Before the show (at about 6:15 PM) we stopped in at a cafe for a quick meal and noticed (well actually Mrs. GW noticed before I did) that Roger Rosenberg was picking up something to go. We went over and introduced ourselves (I used a VERY LIGHT handshake); Roger was very gracious and friendly. He did say something like "maybe you can see us again next year." I wouldn't exactly take that to mean that we can expect another tour, but at least it is not precluded.
To sum up, the performance tonight was virtually flawless, as far as I could tell. This bodes well for the fans in Chicago and Detroit.
Out for now...
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 01:15:32 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben , Tall County AR
The protagonist IS Dr. Wu. And hell is not so permanent or ultimately unendurable as a body might think. It's like the Imagination Movers' Idea Warehouse: it's just "the hell room" of this all-too-mobile home.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 01:09:32 ET
Posted by: R.I.P., Ellie Greenwich
If you don't recognize the name (and even if you do) I suggest you check out this 1986 interview (21+ mins) rebroadcast today on "Fresh Air." Listen here...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112331204
Or transcript is here...
http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=112331204
Noted sitcom writer, producer, director and current member of the Dodgers broadcast team Ken Levine knew her personally and has a nice remembrance posted on his blog...
http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2009/08/ellie-greenwich.html
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 00:54:14 ET
Posted by: Doctor Mu, Oh, it's so cosmic
I came her to praise Wu, not to bury it.
"Fri, August 28, 2009, 07:31:10 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Ray, thank you for report, especially as to Dr. Wu. This an unfinished song for certain. Viewed in the light of the great Deacon Blues or Aja, even more so. They were transitioning here with this little 4 minute piece. The intro is stilted, the chorus comes in way too early, the ending...non-existent. Phil Woods and Micheal Omartian saved that song. Oh, the articulation of the pianist's fingers was thrilling, heretofore unbeknownced to a rock and roll crowd. No bluesy rolls of the digits like Chuck Leavell but more of a Scott Joplin separation between notes, Elton at his best maybe. Then Wood comes leaping out of the bebop closet with that break, well, gia. But, no, the song is unfinished. It's a split canvas. How did they finish it when you saw them...some specifics if you please. Compare it to some other SD number."
Au contraire. It's a surreal vignette, a love triangle: his woman, drugs, Eastern medicine swirling around a fractionated mind. The chorus a chant, a story of perspective, Who's perspective? Who am I...and what a chorus as Fagen overdubs a metaphor of a man in a desperate conversation with himself... Katy betrayed our man...waiting, waiting for the fix.
The legend of acupuncture and magic...morphs into a man in a white coat who takes the protagonist from the brink of madness...as the chorus turns around...then the screaming starts...fade to black. The Woods sax solo thus represents a brief respite from a descent into hell.
Date: Sat, August 29, 2009, 00:44:24 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
WLK: Because pupa love is governed by the same immutable principles that require a hard-wired telephone to be the only hope for escaping a lifetime of hanging around in the kitchen closet at Club Matrix. Unless, of course, you are a guy who unabashedly and freely admits spending most nights dreaming in the arms of Morpheus.
So then, Joey: Is that nuzzling the same as stabbing a battle-apple into a ring of rare design?
One of my ex-brothers-in-law says that Dr. Wu won't be finished until the Mayan steelcage kick fight of 2012.
I say do you know why they attach a mirror to the compass?
Date: Fri, August 28, 2009, 23:03:16 ET
Posted by: Marsha, Tokyo
You are a treasure, Joey! The Blue Book wouldn't be the same with all the laughter you bring us. You belong in the Steely Dan Fan Hall of Fame.
We are proud to know you.
Date: Fri, August 28, 2009, 21:29:16 ET
Posted by: WLK, BTW
Why would somebody with the ability to walk between raindrops need to open their umbrella?
Date: Fri, August 28, 2009, 18:31:43 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Las Vegas, 112 F
Rajah,
Thanks for your words of encouragement.
To JAYTHE AMERICAN, a belated welcome. As to the answer to your question, I think that hoops provided some excellent generic answers a few days ago that can be applied to "King Of The World".
I hope that you will be able to attend all of the Chicago shows. Don't be afraid to weigh in with questions, etc; roughly 3 years ago I was just where you are today. Lastly, I would encourage you to attend one or more Danfests. You will make a lot of new friends; we have.
Date: Fri, August 28, 2009, 18:26:08 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Magnificent insanity becomes you, J-Fly...
Date: Fri, August 28, 2009, 17:37:19 ET
Posted by: Mojave, Los Angeles
I was at the Monday (Royal Scam) and Tuesday (Request) nights and I enjoyed the hell out of both nights. Overall, the performances were a little better on Tuesday, but I didn't feel anything lacking on Monday. The crowd was better Monday (standing ovations every couple of songs; but only 2 or 3 on Tuesday).
I was a little surprised and disappointed that they didn't play anything at all from their last couple of albums, but you can't have everything.
On Monday, the standout moment for me was Third World Man. On Tuesday, I thought Kid Charlemagne and Bodhisattva were the highlights.
I brought my new cheapo flip camera to the Tuesday show and captured a few songs. It was my first time trying to do that in a show because at most of the concerts I attend, security jumps on you even for cell phone pictures, but the Gibson security were too busy breaking up dancers to bother with cameras. Some of the footage is shaky or pointing at stage lights, but hopefully it's not too annoying. (I've seen worse on Youtube.)
Josie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncE3pXTZW_Y
Any Major Dude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6fktik4Uko
Black Cow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxGyWYx2e7Y
Bodhisattva: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4A1K3lGZYQ
Enjoy!
Date: Fri, August 28, 2009, 15:09:58 ET
Posted by: hank,
Joey- Speaking of bridges...I wish you would jump off one!
Date: Fri, August 28, 2009, 11:56:35 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Gus, your modesty moves me. But you're wrong, you possess all the musical sensitivity needed to coment gracefully on here on any subject. Don't sell yourself short, my friend, you've got the makings. The willingness is all. Get a pitchpipe and a book and off you'll go...
Trust the old cranky Rajah on this...
Date: Fri, August 28, 2009, 11:40:21 ET
Posted by: Joey,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzP1s8ZsWT4
Thanks , but your young Joey STILL does not like the bridge .
" Phil Woods and Micheal Omartian saved that song ....... Then Wood comes leaping out of the bebop closet with that break, well, gia. "
Amen My Rajah .
THIS is why Walt W should re-create the Phil Woods sax solo as best as possible ..... not to appease the die hard fans ( like all of us ) but to give the track the necessary jaunty Lil' Lift that makes " Dr. Wu " a true classic loved by the unwashed / washed masses .
" Dr Wu – Who says Walt W can’t bring this tune home? "
Concur . Walt W. DOES do a nice job on the outro ....... ( Joey like ) .
Waiting for the Chicago YouTube ( for those of us who can not be in attendance ) !!! One more chance to ' Get it RIGHT !!! ' :
Developing ............
J. Fly !
Date: Fri, August 28, 2009, 11:07:38 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Las Vegas, NV
Rajah,
Regarding your request for more information, I wish I could help, but I clearly lack the musical knowledge to do so effectively. One reason I hang out here is to learn from others such as yourself, and I have a lot more to learn than I have to teach. If I try to reverse those roles I run out of steam pretty fast. So I will wait for the musically inclined listeners to respond to you.
Date: Fri, August 28, 2009, 09:22:53 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Lurker Ray: People were asking me at the Dan Fest if I knew what you looked like. We have never met, so I honestly couldn't tell them anything. :-)
Great report and spot on, in my humble opinion. That's what I saw, too.
I finished my report for Internet Request Night and it's finally posted over on my blog. After the http thing type in trustyangelgirl and then dot blogspot dot com.
My unscientific rating of the 4 shows.
Gaucho (Who knew? New songs never performed and crowd on FIRE)
Aja (just below Gaucho, audience worshiped this album)
Internet Request Night (Different songs played, like Wu and Rikki and Carlton the Hottest)
Royal Scam (My favorite album comes in dead last..it was a crying disgrace)
Gus: Hey, have a great time in VEGAS!
Date: Fri, August 28, 2009, 07:31:10 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Ray, thank you for report, especially as to Dr. Wu. This an unfinished song for certain. Viewed in the light of the great Deacon Blues or Aja, even more so. They were transitioning here with this little 4 minute piece. The intro is stilted, the chorus comes in way too early, the ending...non-existent. Phil Woods and Micheal Omartian saved that song. Oh, the articulation of the pianist's fingers was thrilling, heretofore unbeknownced to a rock and roll crowd. No bluesy rolls of the digits like Chuck Leavell but more of a Scott Joplin separation between notes, Elton at his best maybe. Then Wood comes leaping out of the bebop closet with that break, well, gia. But, no, the song is unfinished. It's a split canvas. How did they finish it when you saw them...some specifics if you please. Compare it to some other SD number.
Date: Fri, August 28, 2009, 03:55:27 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Las Vegas, NV
Ray,
Thanks very much for putting all of that together; I wish I could do half as well even recalling everything that you do. I will just add a couple of thoughts of my own for Tuesday's show.
Dirty Work: Two-plus years ago in Wallingford, CT the performance of this song by Carolyn and Cindy brought a tear to my eye. Tuesday's version was not as flashy, but the interplay and harmony of the three singers was, amazingly to me, even better.
Dr. Wu: I agree that Walt's sax work on this song was first rate. As it happens, I was one of the people who was lucky enough to hear the sound check at Soboba. I might have been standing next to Ray at the gate. My memory of that solo was that it was not a good fit with the rest of the song. Let me add that I am a fan of Weiskopf; I think his work, both in the studio and on tour, is excellent. In 2006 he was handed an impossible task: come up with a solo equal in quality to, but different than, an original classic. And by the way, no matter how good it is, when the fans hear it they will prefer the original, which they know note for note. Based on what I remember hearing on Tuesday, he has met this challenge; the only reason we are not saying he has "made this his own" is that we have only heard it once.
Taken as whole, Dr. Wu has been rearranged from its somewhat sparce original version into a song with the entire band contributing. I think it has been stated here in the past that Dr. Wu was not "finished"; assuming that claim to be true, the Tuesday version certainly seemed finished to me, and marvelously so.
Regarding the "No Standing O" at the end, well I was on MY feet. I was very surprised to see that the house lights stayed out, and the audience response was remarkably brief, in the spirit of "OK, that's nice, now move on to another song." I don't get it either; can it be that Dr. Wu fans are, collectively, "outliers" to use Hoops' recent term?
Out for now; I will post something after the Palms show.
Date: Fri, August 28, 2009, 01:18:24 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
"Caves Of Alta Cockers" - Steely Dan Universal Hollywood Monday & Friday Night August 24 & 25 2009
Have you ever had a lover come in for a long weekend and then she/he has to head back out of town? Yeah that’s how I feel. After four amazing nights of Steely Dan, serious separation anxiety has set in. And so it goes, “The Steely Dan LA In-N-Out Double-Double Tour 2009” has come to a close.
Though the energy being radiated from these LA crowds was not at the feeding frenzy levels we saw in the chummed waters at Universal on Friday & Saturday , but really, how could it? Unlike the previous two nights as the building shook and we often wondered, “Do we need a bigger boat?, the last two nights allowed for more “intimate” moments and some great stage banter from both Walter & Donald and some new fireworks supplied by Larry Carlton and this shark attack known as Rent Party 09 Breadline Orchestra.
Dancing up-front and often at their seats Friday & Saturday gave way to a let’s say, “older” crowd on Monday & Tuesday. A young couple up front tried to get the party started Tuesday night early on, but that was quickly squashed by the AARP Pinkertons. The poor girl even gave us AND the band a great laugh when she tried to continue dancing with one of the Pinkertons. The band clearly wants/encourages dancing, but hey, it’s the final two nights of shows, so you “go with the flow”.
“It’s not about us, it’s about you”, chuckled a devilish Donald Fagen as he introduced Internet Request Night Tuesday. It was clear that D&W had quite a homecoming run in LA this year and they were thoroughly enjoying themselves.
Pin shots –
Kid C – Tuesday’s night version was way better. Larry was warmed up from the night before with new sound adjustments and it was just explosive, yet it appeared effortless.
Caves – Memories rushed over me…reminding me how much I dig this tune. Just smoking. Walt Weiskopf applies the Red Dye #76 on the Gibson’s walls.
Don’t Take Me Alive – Once they turned up Larry’s guitar it was on. Still tingling in my spine. Monday's nights version was the one to catch.
Sign In Stranger – Spot on version, Jim Beard & then Larry on the dotted line.
The Fez – Walking offstage does not work!! I know you don’t want to sing it Don, but stay on stage. It totally stops the flow of the show. It’s way too early to be leaving the stage. It confused the crowd. They may even think that you are pissed at something.
Any hoo, Wow Jon Herington!
Green Earrings – Beard to Rosenthal to Carlton. Holy sh*t was that was killer.
Haitian Divorce – Like Gaucho, Don vs Walter, no contest. Jon & Larry buzzed each others landing strip, back and forth. So hot-so!
Everything You Did – Larry just added so much more to this song. His solo was just stellar.
Royal Scam – Forgot all about this tune! Oh yeah, THIS is why it closes the album. Larry & Jon and then Jim Pugh. One of the best versions I have ever witnessed.
Hey 19 – Besides Walter dropping by the IMPROV for a quick set, Larry trading lines with Jim Pugh was just something special.
Bodhisattva– Just killer both nights, But Larry took it to a new level Tuesday. Donald said afterwards, “That woke me up a little”. Was that a dig at the more sedate Tuesday night crowd?
Rikki – Donald full voice and dead-on. Add in Larry’s solo. Chills.
Dr Wu – Who says Walt W can’t bring this tune home? Donald recreated it flawlessly for us along with a beautiful Jim Beard rendering and then Keith and Weiskopf went at it. Gotta be the best so far. And how about the taste that Jon was laying down! But no standing O? Tough crowd. After as they tuned behind him Donald said, “We just like folk music”. Then he sang out of the blue, a line from the old Johnny Cash tune, “The Old Gospel Ship” – “I’m going to take a trip on that old gospel ship”. Priceless.
Any Major Dude – Just immaculate. Like a perfect Orange Julius. Why are you people sitting down after this tune? It does not get any better than that you jaded old fools!
Josie – Both nights. Love the way Walter so graciously let’s Larry take the leads. Larry opened up a whole new approach both nights. Tuesday night he fired up the wah-wah and blew us away. Very cool.
Babylon Sisters – Before starting Don growled, “Yeah my babies” and then, “We used to live out here in the 70’s and here is our impression of the Los Angeles in the mid-seventies”. Best version of the 4 night stand. I love how the lights “shake” over the gals. Speaking of the gals, just killer outfits all four nights. Flapper to Hollywood Streetwalker. Very hot.
Black Cow - Tuesday night on it's third incarnation of the LA run was one of the reasons why I just love this band.
Reeling In the Years - Jon & Larry having a blast. Huge grin on my face.
I assume/hope there will be another Lovefest in Chicago. Much anticipation I would imagine. According to the Chicago Tribune this afternoon they are already shooting it out in the streets by the Chicago Theatre. Never mind The IOC Mayor Daley, you got Steely Dan fans coming into town next week! So let’s be careful out there people. Looking forward to the show reports.
Date: Thurs, August 27, 2009, 23:51:13 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, sadly, not in Vegas nor Windy or Motor cities
I know, I know...took me long enough. 2nd & 3rd NYC Wu's (& 1st)-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=voNPCsrtXn8 (08/04/09)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzP1s8ZsWT4 (08/11/09)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdjhsVY8iKk (08/01/09)
You really did have to be there to fully appreciate it, and even then...the main problem as I heard, especially on the vids is that Keith Carlock was way too low in the mix/Walt Weiskopf way too high. The first (08/01) had them bang it out right after the Itchin' intros and everybody was on their feet in the audience. The crowd, many of whom came specifically for that 1st request gig were overcome by emotions as the first two notes sounded. The mass unison of vocals from everyone made it hard to clearly hear The Donald. There were screams and whistles as someones favorite lyric or musical passage was played for the first time (in NYC). For me, Dr Wu was always emotional to hear especially at the end where the drums and horns interplay with each other and the multi-tracking (R.I.P. Les) of The Donalds vocals all come together. Live-all three times I was a part of it, the drums were there, you really heard it if you tried, but not nearly loud enough. The lights were focused on Keith as he played those fills, but sadly the sound engineer had the horns way up front. Keith did nail that part and during a certain part that first time, a wave of emotion ran through my body. Nothing against WW, he played quite well-but Keith needed to be prominant in the mix. To me Dr Wu was a song that had no business being on the KL album, too far ahead of its time/ a strange (un)fit. Maybe part of the Aja album (?) Anyway, I am glad it was played and as seen on the clips, I still can't believe people were leaving their seats during this fine gem.
I have more clips from the 5 shows I caught this go-round. I'll post the links when they are (finally) uploaded.
ENJOY!
Date: Thurs, August 27, 2009, 21:26:36 ET
Posted by: Chan, Boston
Well said Forward Girl from a fellow Bostonian. There is always room for a bit of off subject class here. At least I hope so.
Date: Thurs, August 27, 2009, 18:22:53 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
You know they really have given it the old college try on this tour, c'mon, let's own up, they've played a lot of songs that they really weren't that into, they did for us, yes, we pay their bills, we are not to be discounted. But it probably cost those two somewhat, we all know how they are. They have been as good as thier word from a few years ago that they would expand the live catalogue as time went by. The Fez made me laugh, thanks Joey, you know you could wake this band up a 3 in the morning and say, hit The Fez and they could do it. Everything You Did, My Rival, Rikki, Dr. Wu...no, let's give credit where credit is due...they've come through. They've served us well and you know we are all ready to return the favour anytime they choose to give us that 10th album.
Date: Thurs, August 27, 2009, 16:27:32 ET
Posted by: zombie-do, LA
I'm not so sure that we're going to get many (any) more tours from SD unless there is an album to promote. By the way they're naming these tours, it seems their intentions are spelled out plainly. Also, by making the Rent Party tour minimal on travelling (for them), it shows that they're not so willing to make too much of an effort anymore.
As for rasta-grtflarry, sorry that I missed your antics at the show. Keep those dreads perky. I hope to catch your show at the next go 'round- if somebody with less restraint doesn't close you down first.
peace.
Date: Thurs, August 27, 2009, 16:19:20 ET
Posted by: Joey,
The Fez - Steely Dan - The Royal Scam - Live at the Beacon Theatre - NYC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkv7uC-pAQE&NR=1
Steely Dan Beacon Theater July 31 -Nite3-Pretzel Logic with Larry Carlton on Guitar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnAx5OBbH80&NR=1
Nice .
Date: Thurs, August 27, 2009, 14:04:34 ET
Posted by: pixeleen, tangled up in Blue
Also speaking of Bob Dylan.....today's Washington Post has a piece about Bob doing the "voice" for some new GPS system :-P
Absolutely no direction home......who could even understand what he was saying :-)
Maybe this is his way of getting back at those Jersey cops who arrested him a couple of weeks ago.......
Date: Thurs, August 27, 2009, 13:52:38 ET
Posted by: pixeleen, amazed
For all you folks thinking about buying tickets to the Detroit show:
Go to Ticketmaster site and type in SALE in the slot for "Promotions and Special Offers"......just did this and was able to get GA tickets for 20 bucks a piece, plus handling charges !! WOW........
Date: Thurs, August 27, 2009, 12:44:07 ET
Posted by: Music Mix, Review
http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/08/27/steely-dan-live-la-royal-scam/
Date: Thurs, August 27, 2009, 09:24:09 ET
Posted by: Janie Runaway, NY
So I hear this morning, on the radio, that Bob Dylan is coming out with his FORTY SECOND album -- a Christmas album, of all things (with proceeds going to charity), and I recently heard that Tori Amos just came out with her TENTH album. D & W -- PLEASE, PLEASE, can we get at least ONE more album from you????
Date: Thurs, August 27, 2009, 07:52:05 ET
Posted by: bikemann, nj
My prediction for the last internet REQUEST night....standard show with Dr Wu and Any major dude. Anyone wanna bet??
Date: Thurs, August 27, 2009, 03:20:51 ET
Posted by: W1P, Gibby
Same dude reviews the Royal Scam show. How come Everyone's Gone to the Movies (Flo & Eddie version) didn't make the internet request set list? I'll tell you what I'd like to hear -- the live version of Bodisattva with Jerome! http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2009/08/25/royal-scam-at-the-gibson/
Date: Thurs, August 27, 2009, 02:42:43 ET
Posted by: grtflarry, LA
Hey zombie love you too
have you tried a 12 step program for narcissism
thats right Steely Dan
a tool
well i am not a tool
do you think you control the show
you control only your mind
well get over it
i hope you understand
i paid for my ticket too
and i don't go to bars
but i did once have a Laughing G tank to listen to the album
countdown to ecstasy on
those albums were made perfect
i don't care what you think of me
I am a proud rocker
rock on
Date: Thurs, August 27, 2009, 00:22:27 ET
Posted by: Chicago,
Planning for the Chicago shows is wrapping up on the Chicago Dandom list. FInaly plans will be posted on Friday night or this weekend.
Check out ideas in progress at http://www.dandom.com/danfests/chicago/index.html
Date: Thurs, August 27, 2009, 00:18:42 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Much news from the commonwealth lately, I fear, will leave many forward men, women, boys, and girls crying and worse, but roll out the bones and raise up your pitcher in Fenway and beyond.
The Price Waterhouse Report as edited by Jimmy Carter confirms irregularities in internet request suffrage. The July 22 show confirms Giant largesse on the Frontlines. What's the upshot?
No cawcuss needed to satisfy the boobirds and still make thuh preacher dance.
Local psychic Styx with her Chicago encore prediction. Her tracks record is lengthy if not good.
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 22:26:13 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl, Down by the River
Hoops, good points all, there could be any number of reasons unbeknownst to us for either or both of the guys to not feel all warm and fuzzy about any particular song. I can definitely sympathize: there are many moments from my 20's that I wouldn't mind erasing, and certainly would not re-broadcast. :-)
That said, I'd love to know what songs the guys would play if they truly could 'play just what they feel'. That'd be one hell of a show.
Off-topic, and not to be preachy, but this is a weekend in Boston that I find incredibly moving - the Red Sox Jimmy Fund telethon. The kids make me cry every damn year. I know with all the money I spent this summer on shows and shirts, drinks and parking, all for my own pleasure, I'm definitely going to make a donation. JimmyFund.org. Just sayin'
Hoops, hope this isn't inappropriate. I apologize if so...
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 21:17:57 ET
Posted by: Lester, Utah
Zootnewton....
Yeah, went and found pix on a "vintage synth" site of the Lync LN-4... wasn't sure what it was really called ... had heard it referred to SOMEWHERE as "the stick" and "keytar" .... thanks for "Lync LN-4". I'll be a little more alert for it this Friday Night at the Palms in LV...
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 19:59:04 ET
Posted by: we are, not worthy
hey hooper ! you are right - its always good to have your steely dan extended!!
hey hooper. ain't it funny that they named a STEAK restaurant in your town after the best HEALTH CARE option!!! HR 676 lives!
http://www.676restaurant.com/
hey hoopsie? ¿ is this the best thing EVER??
http://www.columbusalive.com/live/content/features/stories/2009/08/13/ca_s_gspot.html
hey hooper! are you going to the steely dan concert in chicago? that's awesome, huh, right!
http://www.ecurry.com/blog/desserts/blueberry-gelato/
yours,
lincoln douglas
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 19:02:24 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky
Chicago is only days away. We can't wait. I've been busy with work so checking the board hasn't been a priority. Hoopsie, where is the pre party on Monday? Best believe the drinkin' shoes are a goin' on.
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 17:54:11 ET
Posted by: angel,
Gus: I confirm your set list. As if you need that. :-)
No worries. Ed and I figured out that it couldn't be Book of Liars.
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 17:23:44 ET
Posted by: Prosser, Sacramento, CA
Hi - am bloggin about the Universal City, Monday Night Show, on 8/24/09, featuring the Royal Scam.
With reservations, this was another excellent preformance. Out of the gate, Carlton was awful. His work on Scam/Kid/and Don’t Take Me Alive was off the cuff, mellow, noodling. Somebody has to light a fire under his butt. His playing live pales in comparison to his studio work. He did get better as the night wore on. For some reason, he tore up Haitian Divorce. I think he should get asked back next year assuming he can get motivated. One thing he did do well is lite a fire under John Herrington's butt. A notorious technique for technique’s sake guitar player, Herrington played many more finger twisting, original phrases from the record with, well, technical prescision, then did Carlton. It is Herrington’s best tour ever.
The Dan are not getting as much from the lead guitar players as they could. They are a little lead guitar challenged. These are supposed to be the finest guitar players in the country.
You can jump on YouTube and hear original Dan leads played flawlessly.
You don't mess around with the MoonLight Sonata. And you shouldn't mess around with some of these guitar parts. They're GOLD!
I know that if we heard original Larry Carlton parts on Kid/Scam/and Don't Take Me Alive the audience would stand up and roar in mid song. We hang on every last note of those parts. Inexplicably, Becker and Fagen don't seem to appreciate that.
Be that as it may, the preformance of Royal Scam reminded you of how quintessential Dan the album was. Its a dark, violent album full of rich muscianship and a standard Dan, wise ass, cynical, perpsective. And they played it all the way through, in the same order on the record, without saying hello. Not to be rude, but to put on a show. It was so cool. Everything You Did’s groove changed from a rock groove to a modified Purdie Shuffle (as on Home at Last and Babylon). Again, the leads weren't half of what they could have been. And this album is lead guitar rich. The live preformance was far off the mark compared to the record. Regardless, it was still a joy to hear this great record played straight through, without a word spoken.
And the rest of the night’s set list had an excellent mix of the commerical and the sublime. They’ve learned how to please everbody.
Wonderful show as allways. But one thing is for sure. Do not see this show anywhere but in the middle. You will lose volume, mid range, and pristene highs if you’re to far from the middle.
Don’t miss this tour! Don’t miss ANY Dan tour!
— Prosser 26 August 2009
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 17:22:36 ET
Posted by: zombie-do, LA
to grtflarry, and all others who insist on exercising their right to swing their fist, even when it lands on another's face; I ask that you allow the rest of us (whom have paid a pretty penny) to enjoy the show advertised on the ticket stub and not your selfish and annoying plea for attention. We get it. The music is awesome. But we can't hear the nuances of the live show if your insist on being the center of attention. Karaoke is fine at the bar. This aint the bar.
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 17:19:25 ET
Posted by: Your Name, Your Location
There ain't nothin' in Chicago for a monkey woman to do.
Whattya think -- will they throw out Your Gold Teeth?
Lookin' forward to the Monday night Aja show. Maybe we'll see ya at the Elephant and Castle before the gig.
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 17:05:22 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @work
Saw The Robert Cray Band monday night at the Pabst Theater. 5th or 6th time I've seen him and as good as ever. One of the best blues guitarists around though he seems to not do as much extraneous soloing as I recall from years ago. Clocked in at just under 90 minutes, the only real disappointment. If you get the opportunity to see him you won't be disappointed. Dan tangically, his keyboard player is Jim Pugh.
KC
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 16:52:08 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Jim - Understood. To this day I have a hard time listening to the songs off Lennon's "Double Fantasy" album.
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 16:44:16 ET
Posted by: steelyfez, CT_NYC
thats a good post Jim
keep up the good work.
my two cents.
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 16:43:03 ET
Posted by: nostatic, socal
So can anyone there on Tuesday confirm that the first video link I posted is real? On further listening I'm wondering if it is a fabrication as the guitar solo doesn't really sound quite mixed in with the background. Gawd knows there is a whole genre of concert footage with swapped audio.
That said I do have a recording from SD in SD '00 with a horn clam and I was there in person to hear it as well. So stuff does happen. But the video strikes me as being a little *too* off...
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 15:46:17 ET
Posted by: Help, Dandom
How about a setlist from last night?
So far I can see they played 5 songs only(?)
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 15:17:14 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, El Segundo Cube for a brief lunch
Wormy,
Yes, they did do justice to Dr. Wu, last night, anyway. I agree with Angel about the Youtubes; of course I don't have a one-to-one comparison between a specific Youtube and live performance, but I think others at previous Dr. Wu shows who have presumably seen both live and recorded versions of the same show have said the same thing. I can say that the live version I saw was markedly better than the Youtube versions I saw, I believe from 8/1 and 8/11.
grtflarry,
We were sitting about 15 feet from you on the inside of aisle 8, and based on where you were standing, I know of no reason why you were hassled for dancing where you were. Since that aisle was blocked by a curtain, it was not a safety/evacuation issue, and you were not blocking anyone's view. I can't speak for the people sitting right next to you, but I personally don't mind dancing in the aisles if it does not block my view of the show.
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 14:46:41 ET
Posted by: angel, LA (Wishing for sleep)
Last night was what it was. The crowd was much calmer then early in the 4 show stand, but hey, many of us had heard the main cuts 4 times...so a bit of leeway should be allowed. Rikki and Wu were just wonderful. Don't let the You Tubes fool you. Everyone just stopped dead to listen. No clowning around near me. Loved Any Major Dude, too. So yeah, the usual suspects were there, Peg and Josie and Babylon Sisters, but there was other stuff to give us a Thrill.
Great end and this time, with DTMA and Kid C in their rightful place, Carlton was just HOT! HOT! HOT!. I loved it.
Thanks Donald and Walter for a great tour. You did good.
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 14:40:48 ET
Posted by: nostatic, socal
Filed under the "Nobody's Perfect" category:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80TWlgoysiI&feature=related
I'm so glad that most of my past gigs had no record of the epic clams that I served up live. I do have a collection of studio out-takes that make me groan and giggle.
By contrast, this is pretty much nailed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPDyavTkE-I
The interwebs is a beautiful and terrifying thing...
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 11:07:26 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Yeah, you're going to get Walter doing "Daddy Don't..." Donald needs a vocal rest. Are you saying they should stick only to the top tracks and then cut the show short?
Just sayin' again.
Jim
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 11:05:42 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
A few things from recent days or weeks:
1) Folks who hang out here in Steely Dan Fan forums such as the Bluebook, need to remember that the readership is less than 1% of the attendance and voters at any Internet Request Night show. Most attending and voting are going to what to hear what is on the "Decade" CD and are even shocked when, save for the IRN, SD doesn't play, say, "Rikki". All one has to do is look at the top 20 or 30 selling tracks on iTunes to see what the voting is going to roughly be like. We're not the norm here and are generally the statistical outlyers.
With the example of "Western World...", as someone has suggested, do many in the mainstream even own that on CD? My first reaction was "no" but then again, I remember about ten years ago, BMG CD club pushed "Gold Extended Edition" as the best of the "Greatest Hits"--so maybe so. But I think most mainstream and casual fans outright forget it exists, if they even know it.
That said, I sure the hell wish they would play "Western World" at the Chicago shows coming up. The Donald Fagen Band version from 2006 would have been interesting if we had gotten tired of hearing the original version year after year in SD concerts--but that's the rub! Except for the handful of times this tour, the original version hasn't been heard. So I feel very unsatisfied since "Western World" is one of those tracks that I play over and over again in succession--would love to hear it live. And again, as I have wished for, I think the original would be a perfect track for Walter's lead vox. I can hear it. However, I would be surprised if they do play it in Chicago. Then again, I was surprised to hear Dr Wu in NYC on Aug 1.
2) Some were having this back-and-forth about Chuck Rainey and SD. I've seen similar things involving other people. The thing to consider when one quotes these players--and even Becker and Fagen--is WHEN did they say that? The Rainey quotes are from well over a decade ago. I've been at shows since where Rainey is introduced and he and Our Guys seem very chummy. People change their opinions. Fagen has done interviews, for example, back some 15-20 years ago where he says he will never play "Do It Again" or that he's not fond of playing "Gaucho". Clearly, some of that has changed. People change their opinion over time.
3) Some people also write saying DF and WB won't sing some song because the song is about this or that or some person. But how about simply they simply aren't in to it during a particular tour? Or how about it's not what the song is about so much as it is about how it reminds them a bleak event that occurred when it was recorded, etc. For example, for a long time (back in the 70s) I didn't like listening to a couple of tracks off of CBAT since they came out around the time a family member passed away. It took me many years to disassociate the tracks from that.
Just sayin'
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 10:52:38 ET
Posted by: grtflarry, westchester, ca
the show was typical steely dan great versions of great songs
but the gibson theater does not allow freedom of expression
i was told to leave for rockin to bodhisattva i could not believe it
if i wanted to sit and listen to the music i would stay home and listen to my cd's
i guess people didn't get the we were watching one of the great bands of all time
perform their great songs you probably saw me i was rockin on in a tiedied tshirt on the right side of the stage
i agree they played what they wanted and not our picks
no western world no parkers band but maybe the idiots in the audience that
obviously don't know what to do when good music is played
also don't know what a great steely dan song is
any way great night of music terribly disrespectful audience
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 10:26:31 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Major dude and Wu are just great but these are obviously the only two songs that they have decided to give us that are new. "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofhDF9ltv0M
Some of the " Text Comments " at the bottom of this one are OUTSTANDING ........ and friggin FUNNY !!!! :
" This isn't about lost love, it's about heroin addiction. "Katy Lied" is a reference the "lie' that the euphoria of opium gives you. Other lines like "the taste you said you'd bring to me" referring to someone giving him some heroin. Dr. Wu is an actual doctor who helped him get off heroin. Look at all the pictures of chinese opium dens, people doing heroin etc. "
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 09:44:38 ET
Posted by: FYI, or maybe not
Shenanigans,
I did not say that every song they played got the most votes.
I did say that the following is incorrect:
" Here At The Western World (or insert your favorite song here) "obviously" got the votes, but was not played"
The biggest "scams" people seem to "see" is that their favorite song was a vote-winner, but those lying cheating scoundrels ignored the votes and didn't play it. Nothing wrong with predicting or guessing the vote I suppose. What blows me away is the combination of being wrong in the guesses, plus such certainty that the guess is right!
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 09:42:12 ET
Posted by: Janie Runaway, NY
Went to see Counting Crows with Michael Franti & Spearhead and Augustana last night (which, by the way, was a great show and a wild party). At one point during the show, they brought up an audience member (named Dave?) to play a song with them and he was wearing a Steely Dan T-Shirt -- the only one I spotted all night! Certainly made me smile!
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 09:25:11 ET
Posted by: wormy, nola
another request night
nice seeing Dr Wu - did they do it justice?
I don't like this one encore thing
especially song choice
will be in that number in Detroit
hopefully they play like a request night
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 09:05:39 ET
Posted by: Shenanigans, 7.0 land
Daddy don't live or get votes in L.A. no way.
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 08:50:04 ET
Posted by: FYI, TM
Yes I saw that film clip . Can you imagine donald and Walter would NOT make wiseass cracks about the voting thing? They make wiseass cracks about almost everything in 35 years, but now we expect they speak seriously and truly about this one thing I would have been surprised if they didn't try to distance themselves from taking fan-direction by saying something outrageous like that. What's surprising to me is not that they said that, but that so many seem to believe it and are so cynical about what they did and played. Anyway I dropped some inside info so continue as always to argue with it if you like. Back to lurk.
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 08:36:29 ET
Posted by: tripel, nyc
there's a "making of" video they shot for this Rent Party tour, with in-studio practice footage, plus DF and WB talking about the whole internet request thing. They jokingly compare it to the electoral college, whereby songs that get the most votes will not neccesarily get played .... Basically I think they only prepped 4-5 new tunes or so (Wu, Dude, Rikki, etc)
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 07:29:28 ET
Posted by: FYI, TM
Here At The Western World wasn't in the top 25 votes.
The distrust over the request nights is hard to understand. Plus the distrusters sound so certain about what got votes but wasn't played.. "obviously" and so on, what's up with that? I guess they believe everyone else voted just like they did.
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 06:59:52 ET
Posted by: bikemann, nj
Well, once again the REQUEST night was a royal Scam. Major dude and Wu are just great but these are obviously the only two songs that they have decided to give us that are new. I thought for sure that LA would at least get western world. Nope,,,they dropped this tune from the start and its one of their best. Guess there were no other votes...I mean requests that were worth anything. Sad
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 04:43:58 ET
Posted by: zootnewton, NYC
Keytar update:
Donald has only ever been seen using the Lync LN-4 (if I am not mistaken)
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 04:24:32 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Internet Request Night At the Gibson is in the books; here is the Setlist as I can best decipher it from my notes; confirmation is welcomed.
Intro: Teenie's Blues
Black Friday
Aja
Hey Nineteen
Peg
Dirty Work (Ladies on Vocals)
Bodhisattva
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Home At Last
Dr. Wu
Any Major Dude Will Tell You
Do It Again
Love Is Like An Itchin' In My Heart/Band Intros
Babylon Sisters
Daddy Don't Live... (WB Vocals)
Black Cow
Josie
Don't Take Me Alive
Kid Charlemagne
Encore: Reelin' In The Years, Original Version
Outro: Last Tango
I'm too tired to expand on this now, but I have to apologize to Angel. I was just able to read Dr. Wu on the setlist on Tawatha's stand. I thought that the song above it was "Book of Liars", and passed by to tell her (and Ed Beatty, who happened to be there); but in fact it was "Home at Last".
Date: Wed, August 26, 2009, 03:13:22 ET
Posted by: W1P, Gibby
Angel, the song is "if you're following an Angel . . ." not "when you're being followed by an Angel" -- yes that was me! (and it was a crying disgrace, if you know what I mean)
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 23:36:13 ET
Posted by: Lester, Utah
Hey, Keytar.. thanks for the response about Donald losing the Keytar/Stick. I dug back through my photos from Dan shows over the years... and in my batch of photos from the San Jacinto show in July of 2006, I have several shots of Donald with the The Keytar-Stick as well as with the Melodica. The first show I took my wife to (totally "converted" her to dandom!) was Chula Vista in 03... and while I don't have any photos from that show, but I do recall seeing both there... and every time in between.. EXCEPT for Donald's solo tour shows.. at least the Chicago and San Diego shows.
I wish we could post photos here of Donald with the Stick at San Jacinto... but, other than Last Friday Night in Universal City, the last Dan show we were at was chicago in June 07... and I don't have any recollection one way or another about the presence of the Stick at that show or not.
Interestingly.. I don't think that he did much more on the stick except play some pre-programmed pads... no cutting loose on the stick like he does on the Melodica.
If I HAD to choose... or rather, if it were mine to choose.. I would take him on the Melodica any day over the stick!
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 22:39:04 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, the closer
Klaus, honey, we will be there. I will call the Soundboard tomorrow and try to make some Danfest arrangements at one of the ancillary bar areas. More to come on the Detroit list!
Looking forward to hearing reports from request night in LA!
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 18:05:16 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
W1P: Were you wearing a white shirt with writing on it? If you were, I followed you up to the area of your seat, but then the lights went down for the show and I gave up.
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 17:58:29 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
nostatic: Word up, my brotha...
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 17:00:13 ET
Posted by: nostatic, socal
One thing I noted is that Calrton plays the "chordal licks" better than perhaps anyone in the business. He also has a more flowing style than Herington so it was an interesting counterpoint.
It was interesting to see Becker pointing multiple times towards people in the crowd. And I agree with previous comments about Kid C and Don't Take Me Alive feeling a little odd as openers. Maybe it is just condtioning. It is easy to pick nits, but the reality is that these guys are playing difficult/subtle music at such an incredibly high level you get spoiled and expect perfection and grace with every note. That just isn't how live music works...thank gawd. And sometimes the "mistakes" have more meaning than the "right notes."
The synopsis of Becker's patter that had myself and the g/f laughing out loud. He starts out with the story a guy taking his date to see Steely Dan, then afterwards to a bar on Ventura Bl, thinking that if he says the right things he can get lucky. Then (excuse me if I type it wrong):
So you are sitting over a drink and the you first say, "Nietzsche says that without music life would be a mistake." Your date stares blankly back at you so you try a different approach. "All cars should be exploded." Still no response, Finally you launch your last attempt, "there will be no world peace until the last priest is strangled with the entrails of the last politician." There is a slight smile but you're still thinking that you might need to try again at which point your date takes your hand, smiles, and says, "don't say another word...you had me at 'entrails."
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 16:44:43 ET
Posted by: W1P, Gibson
Angel, I saw the people blocking your view but did not see you :( I did run into Steve Chernove of Pretzel Logic -- that was random! I scored a couple of wristbands for the after party and got to meet Larry Carlton -- what an unbelievably nice guy! While we were there, he had his picture taken with Keb Mo. That was cool too!
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 16:34:50 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Just in case anyone in interested/ Ticketbastard has 35$ tix general admission for Motown Sep 5 I picked up two more for my son and his wife. No Danfest planned for Detroit but I have a room and if any Danfans need a beer I would be willing to help. Ill have on a Jack of Speed shirt and a big Steely grin from ear to ear!!
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 14:38:37 ET
Posted by: Book Search, Way bored at work
Dave Marsh once wrote a book, the 1001 Greatest Singles ever made.
#734 - Love is like an Itching in My heart - The Supremes
#735 - Do It Again - Steely Dan
#736 - Rikki Don't Lose that Number - Steely Dan
http://tinyurl.com/l8nxnw
Any chance they saw that and got the idea to cover it live?
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 13:37:41 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Gus: It was great to see you again. :-)
Royal Scam: Wow, an uneven experience. This is the first time in my life I have seen so many shows one after the other and so I am hearing those nuances of difference as they do the same songs, night after night.
Might as well start with what I didn't like.
Having Kid C start the show. These two people placed themselves in the handicapped area right in front of my (and probably Gus') section and danced their hearts out, totally blocking our view. Here we are wanting to see Larry at work and we saw squat. Thank goodness for the guy in the first row who went over to them (twice) and finally got them out of there.
Having Don't Take Me Alive as the third song. Again, this album is plum in my book, but I found that I really like those songs in the "Kick it into overdrive" section of the concert. I really missed that. As someone mentioned before in the NY review, Larry is a bit low in the mix and that hurt these two songs. Especially with everything else that was distracting me, people still being seated, the drama in front of me and even the band getting used to having Larry there.
Things I loved!
Sign In Stranger. Who knew I would be so enthralled with this song. I have it on Alive in America, but it truly was a special moment for me. Great work by everyone.
Haitian Divorce with The Donald on lyrics. Again, have heard this many times with Walter, but The Donald is just so special. :-)
Third World Man: Saw it the other day, but this one kicked major butt! Thanks Larry.
Walter did one heck of a good Hey 19 talk. After none the past 2 times, it was a good change. If I am not mistaken, he got a standing O for Daddy Don't Live. If it wasn't a true standing O it might have been that he got VERY appreciative applause from the crowd and that might be the first time seeing that.
The Gibson rocked again. The crowd are fabulous and make the experience worth it. One lady behind me kept yelling "I Love You Keith". I so agree. :-)
I do want to say that getting the entire album played has been a huge success, at least for this fan. Each night was different and special in its own way. Let's see what Taking It To The Seats does for me tonight.
Oh and if anyone else, is looking for me, I am in my Steely Dan Y2K Subway Token shirt. Hard to miss, over to the right and above the audio board.
I had a last minute cancellation last night and I had to go up to my house and pick up my Hubby, so I was way late getting to the venue. Might try to get to the Danfest, if we get there in time.
My absolute final comment on the evening. Jon Herington, you are a GOD! (There, I said it)
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 13:37:17 ET
Posted by: DG, Malibu
Been to all 3 shows. My take is most of the audience is looking for "permission" from Donald to stand up and let their hair down. He could easily turn the place into a gospel church in a heartbeat. For instance, they get up and cheer/rock out when Black Friday begins, but either don't want to offend the musicians or, since mostly men in the crowd who are afraid to dance next to their own gender .... they sit down. The guys in L.A. should be aware that chest hair is "in" this year. I heard Donald tell the audience toward the end of the show the band fed off the crowd (not sure if those were his exact words) and they became much more jubilant ... it was obvious the band liked it.
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 13:24:44 ET
Posted by: Legallyblind,
TM offers supernovableeds seats for 37.00
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 12:35:27 ET
Posted by: KD, ool
What an absolutely brilliant album Circus Money is. The Autotune breakdowns intrigued me, and I went back to listen to the disc for the first time in about a month. And I've spun it endlessly since.
Any time we get bummed out regarding the fact that there hasn't been any new Dan since 2003, and that they seem to be mainly a touring outfit these days, just warm yourself to the fact that Don and Walt put out a pair of absolute killers in 2006 and 2008.
And as much as I adore TvN and swoon over EMG; I crank the last two solo discs way, way more often.
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 12:22:42 ET
Posted by: keytar,
Lester, Donald traded the Keytar for a Melodica years ago.
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 11:18:57 ET
Posted by: fwiw, gibson
2 for 1 ticket offer for tonight 8/25/09 at ticketmaster
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 10:14:07 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
C$: there's no doubt that auto tune is used throughout the album, more heavily on some songs than others ... "I cracked the code" stuck out to me like a sore thumb when I first heard it on wb.com.
For the most part I think it's used pretty skillfully on the album ... I still don't know what I think about it as a tool ... it's just more "studio magic" in a long line of "studio magic." in some ways it can make anyone a great singer; on the other hand, if you're terrible, and auto tune is used, it's very obvious. my biggest problem is that it generally sounds like shit, but it sounds alright on C$ for the most part.
it's used more skillfully on MTC. i can safely say i never noticed it until someone pointed it out here. i've been told it's also on EMG and TvN but I still can't tell.
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 08:43:43 ET
Posted by: Gibson Aja, Review
Sorry, that's the same as the previously posted LA Times review.
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 08:41:01 ET
Posted by: Gibson Aja, Review
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/news.php?id=41517
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 08:39:07 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Nice, Gus, very very fine account and I thank you. None of your posts are not lost on me, dear Dandom, I cherish every one.
Royal Scam, the guitar album, yes, of this there is no doubt. But shortly after Don and Walt, well, Donald especially, started to voice his aversion, is that a word, to the traditional, "guitar solo." Next came Aja, Gaucho, Nightfly...all the rest and they eschewed for the most part, that kind of heroic guitar break. And as a result, maybe somewhat, their music grew in richness and colour in different directions. Rock n roll is king but there are so many other instruments to explore and finally when 2vN came out, jeez so many years later, it just blew me away. They learned to use all the instruments. And they spoke with a mature clarity that shocked me.
So, onward, I await the Two Against Nature album night next year.
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 04:36:34 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Just back from the Royal Scam show at the Gibson; first the setlist:
Intro: Teenie's Blues
Royal Scam (Album)
Hey Nineteen
Daddy Don't Live... (WB vocals)
Aja
Black Friday
Home At Last
Parker's Band (Ladies on vocals)
Love Is Like An Itchin' In My Heart/Band Intros
Third World Man
Peg
Josie
My Old School
Encore: Reelin' In The Years (Original Version)
Outro: Last Tango
I won't get everything in before I fade out, but here goes:
I think it was the Rajah who referred to The Royal Scam as the "Guitar" album; That point was never driven home so well as tonight. The best example I can recount here is Haitian Divorce.
I had forgotten that Donald would likely be doing the vocals on Haitian Divorce tonight, but it didn't matter; the trade off of the closing solos between Jon, Walter, and Larry made this performance one for the ages.
Great to hear Third World Man again tonight, especially as Robert and Laurie, our Chumash Danfest hosts in early 2007, were in the house. As well as Jon performed this on Saturday, Larry brought additional clarity and power that shows "the fine hand of the master" to quote J. R. Capablanca in another art.
First time I have heard "Sign In Stranger" live; Beard's touch was just right.
Leonhart took over the horn solo on Home At Last tonight; he really shined.
I am sure I missed a lot of other highlights and noteworthy solos, but I have to quit now.
We were seated just a few seats away from Angel tonight; It was good to see her again, and to meet her husband. Also, the Danfest tonight had probably 25 people, including Stevee and other members of Pretzel Logic, and two Australians who are here for the four show package. Sorry I can't remember all of the names now.
Donald and Walter were both in high spirits tonight, pointing out people they recognized in the Pit; possibly some other posters will have more details.
One more night to go...
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 03:03:14 ET
Posted by: nostatic, socal
oh, and Becker's patter/joke during Hey Nineteen was hilarious.
"All cars should be exploded..."
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 03:01:57 ET
Posted by: nostatic, socal
Royal Scam show tonight. Two words:
Green F*cking Earrings.
Ok, that's 3 words.
Just a few brief thoughts. Was sitting dead center but up in the mezzanine so hard to gauge crowd energy. Huge standing ovation at the end of Royal Scam but a rather uneven night imho. Fagan's voice was blown out and it was a struggle for the first few tunes. Carlton was reading much of the stuff and you could tell.
That said, Green Earrings and The Fez were highlights for me, as was Third World Man though I have to admit I would have like to hear Herington play the solos. Also Becker seemed motivated and played some of the best I've ever heard from him. I think a third guitar provided a little impetus to step it up. I have grown into a huge Herington fan though. He is incredibly creative and constantly surprises me with what he does. About the best I've ever heard at taking a lick and honoring it while making it his own.
And Carlock is god.
Date: Tues, August 25, 2009, 01:05:57 ET
Posted by: Lester, Utah
Wha???? Tell me it isn't true... but Donald's "Stick" was nowhere in sight Friday Night at the Gibson Ampitheatre in L.A. Melodica... yes, Rhodes... yes... The Stick (key-tar) ... NO! I've seen them maybe a dozen times and he's always got out the Key-Tar two or three times a night... Has ANYBODY seen it anytime this summer?
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 19:36:08 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,
Astute article and nice name for a Nda tribute band:
http://www.nashvillescene.com/events/twelve-against-nature-a-steely-dan-experience-296567/
Venue
Third & Lindsley
818 3rd Ave.
Nashville, TN
Twelve Against Nature: A Steely Dan Experience
Date/Time:Fri., August 28, 7:00pm
Price: $12
Twelve Against Nature: A Steely Dan Experience
You Can Buy a Thrill
Jack Silverman
Twelve Against Nature: A Steely Dan Experience
If vinegar could sing, it would sound like Donald Fagen. Along with guitarist and co-songwriter Walter Becker, Fagen created Steely Dan, arising out of the early-’70s primordial rock goo as sort of an anti-Grateful Dead, countering the latter's free-wheeling, jammy, good-vibes aesthetic with the some of the slickest, darkest, sourest music the pop world had ever heard. And despite all of hippie-rock's anti-establishment shtick, punk's outrage and metal's aggression, Steely Dan's catalog is arguably even more subversive—cynical tales of losers, drifters, dashed dreams, mistreated women, pedophiles and, of course, Haitian divorces, all coated in gleamy, syrupy pop, like a chocolate-covered cyanide capsule. Fronted by bandleader/keyboardist Scott Sheriff, Twelve Against Nature perform exceptionally faithful re-creations of Steely Dan's extraordinarily challenging arrangements as only a dozen of Nashville's top session players and road dogs could manage, and their performances have been packing in loyal Dan fans for several years now. Bring your best contemptuous scowl.
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 18:00:46 ET
Posted by: CerpinTaxt, Boston!
Brutus,
I appreciated your feedback. I'm not saying that Walter Becker can't hit any of the notes present in the song, they are all obviously in his range. Rather, it's a matter of how "clean" he can hit the notes without sliding up or down or overreaching when not necessary. The use of auto-tune in Downtown Cannon is not to make Becker appear to be some sort of amazing, virtuoso singer. The purpose is to clean up his vocals as a whole so they sound clearer and more spot on the notes.
Autotune isn't always as obvious as it is on T-Pain songs or Cher's "Believe." Often, it is pretty subtle, as in "Downtown Canon," and takes a good understanding of what autotune sounds like to pick up on it.
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 17:45:55 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Cerpin Taxt -
You're assumptions are quite suspect. How can you say for sure you're
accurate? I think you're imagining things.
Firstly, range-wise nothing is challenging on "DC" - a high Eb on "cracked" (or the high F on ("alsation "wine"")is just about at the limit of a baritone singer's (of which WB is) range.
Secondly, intervallically speaking the melody moves mostly step-wise never exceeding a perfect 4th between any 2 notes. Not difficult for even an "ok" musician to sing accurately.
I think your statements are inherently speculative.
You can't really prove what you're intimating anyway.
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 17:20:12 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Pinky: Close to 9PM.
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 16:46:36 ET
Posted by: W1P, LA
What time has The Dan been going on in LA?
Interesting (and lengthy) reviews of the Aja and Gaucho shows at Gibson Amp
http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 16:14:47 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Half-crazed, you nailed it, when Wally comes in on that song, it's obvious there's an autotune adjustment. He just doesn't have that ability to hit notes. Now Donald, for all his vocal defficienies, I know I must have spelled that wrong, this guy can sing. He knows how to sing, he's not blessed with a great instrument but what he's got he really knows how to use. Don't Take Me Alive, per example, one of the greatest entances to a song, "Agents of the la-ah-awh, luckless pedestirans." Having a great vocal instrument and knowing how to use it are two very diferent things. Frank, Ella, people like that had both. But it's rare.
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 15:51:37 ET
Posted by: half crazed, pf
I remember when C$ first came out, somebody on here called it on "I cracked the code."
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 15:37:34 ET
Posted by: CerpinTaxt, Boston!
Suspected autotune is in "quotes"
Downtown Canon:
1:00 Best day "of" them all.
1:22 "Don't" let them kill ya
1:27 Don't "trade"
1:35 You chop wood and "carry" the water
2:00 "To remind us who we are"
2:43 You go "girl" it's now or "never"
One of the worst offenders:
4:33 Writ "large" in the downtown canon, it "goes" up "and it" must come down, right "here"...
Time permitting, a full album investigation will take place. However, this song is the one that made me first realize WB used autotune. Of course, as there is no authoritative source on the matter, this is, by default, speculation.
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 15:05:18 ET
Posted by: Bill Surga,
Cerpin Taxt -
What tracks and where on the tracks do you sense autotune?
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 12:44:02 ET
Posted by: always willing, to help!
i'd be happy to supply that lighter fluid for the donner!
hell, i'd rather hear him solo by doing that hand-in-the-armpit-fart-thing than listen to the pisslodica!
heck - he plays a little sax. let him find a nice synth patch and use this little baby. it'd be much better. (of course, a rhodes solo would be fantastic, but then he wouldn't be standing in front of the aud. like a real rock star!)
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,6373,CNTID%253D1040%2526CTID%253D208500,00.html
what happened to the sun that was just out?
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 12:20:03 ET
Posted by: CerpinTaxt, Boston!
Just bumping a little Circus Money at work right now, fitting for a decent summer's day. Has anyone else but me ever noticed the autotune prevalent on some of the tracks. Check out Downtown Canon, for instance. I'm not necessarily knocking Walter for using autotune but it seems strange for a man of his nature to use it...
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 11:05:39 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" For me, hearing Donald do the Gaucho vocals was probably my favorite moment tonight; nothing against last year's version with WB on vocals, but tonight was better. "
Is this on www.YouTube.com yet ?!
Joey just HAS to know ...........
Thank You in Advance .
J.
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 09:14:04 ET
Posted by: LA Times, review
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/08/live-review-steely-dan-at-the-gibson-amphitheatre.html
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 04:54:17 ET
Posted by: the bullgose, sweet home bonalbo australia
Bullgoose here. Glad everyone's enjoying the tour.
Just noticed, after thirty years, that the first two bars of Donald's solo on Home at Last (the original recording)nod in the direction of Third Stone From The Sun. Maybe that's why he threatened to pour lighter fluid on his melodica one time.
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009, 04:53:35 ET
Posted by: the bullgose, sweet home bonalbo australia
Bullgoose here. Glad everyone's enjoying the tour.
Just noticed, after thirty years, that the first two bars of Donald's solo on Home at Last (the original recording)nod in the direction of Third Stone From The Sun. Maybe that's why he threatened to pour lighter fluid on his melodica one time.
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009, 23:12:05 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland
Swooping into Chicago for the Sep 3 'Royal Scam' show. Snagged a 3L Main Floor seat Row Q.
Worth it just to hear 'Caves of Altamira'!!!
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009, 22:48:29 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
For any of the usual peeps who are going on Monday or Tuesday. I am seated behind and over (on the camera right side) of the soundboard...1 section over.
I always take a walk behind the soundboard, to see if the set list is there. Sadly, no go.
Lurker Ray: Always a pleasure to read your color.
Walter introduced Jim Pugh 3 times at least, during the band intros. Funniest thing.
Rajah: I am humbled.
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009, 22:24:24 ET
Posted by: Jammin Joe, Hollywood
The Gaucho show was great last night. Just as good as Fridays show. It was worth it to see My Rival played for the first time this tour. The AJA stuff was a little different- they kept it more true to the original on Friday- but got to funk it up a little last night. Love the funked up James brown "Show Biz Kids". After 2 nights- I am seriously thinking about more- Maybe Tuesday. Even a cheap seat would be good. I have been very close in the past- I do not need to be that close anymore- I know what they look like!
One thing I have noticed- they turned the volume down- not as loud as other shows I have seen in the past. They are not blowing you out of your seat with volume. Sounded great to me.
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009, 20:45:29 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
It was much quieter during Teenie's Blues last night. It was really nice to hear the band play. But I also figured this is definitely a sign of how the evening was going to go. There is no way a “LA Crowd” could bring as much love as they did last night. Just not going to happen. Maybe it was the running order of Gaucho,
Maybe it was Saturday night in Hollywood. I don’t know. But I have to totally agree with Mr. Winterbottom, amazingly lasts night show was every bit of a LA Steely Dan Love Fest as last night. Actually there were some moments that might have actually surpassed Friday night’s show as if that was possible. No scratch that. Last night crowd WAS louder.
I can tell one thing after the first half of The Steely LA In-N-Out Double-Double 2009, Doctors Fagen & Becker and their management have to be looking hard at doing extended nights in LA when they tour, just like they do in NYC. The “LA Audience” bullsh*t has finally been put to bed for good. From the opening of Babylon Sisters to the entrance of D&W I thought to myself, “Yogi Berra must be in the house because it was déjà vu all over again”. Hey 19 brought the dancing up front in the first few rows and they never let up from then. The crowd lost it’s mind during the opening of Hey 19. My ears are still ringing. They stood and cheered after EVERY song around me last night. There was some fool, I guess he was is in “advertising”, wearing a Sorcerers Apprentice Hat and big white Mickey Mouse gloves, not sure if I would call it dancing, more like “gesturing” going full tilt all night. Like he was conducting his own fleet of brooms carrying buckets of horse tranquilizer. Only in LA.
Yes of course we would love a more varied set list from night to night, but then again, the major majority of these crowds are only seeing one show. They did switch out Parkers Band for a mesmerizing version of Dirty Work. But more on that in a minute. Sh*t yeah, I keep waiting for Bad Sneakers & HATWW, hell I’d give up Rikki Tuesday night to hear HATWW. If you have read any of my posts previous from this tour you would know that I NEVER sugar coat anything, I hate sweets and I sure as sh*t ain’t drinking any of the “kool-aid”. I’m just reporting on what went down. Read my review of the Vegas show in 06 or my review of the Anaheim nightmare last year. And you can gargle with my piss & vinegar.
We will just have wait and see what goes down Tuesday night. Though from the small and very focused, focus group, the sample all pulled Bad Sneakers & Gold Teeth, Any World, Night By Night & Pretzel Logic as consistent votes and two thirds of the sample all want HATWW. But the Blue is very small sample. I’ll tell you one thing for sure, you do not see any votes for I Got The News or Home At Last . But like I said, it’s such a small sample. Given that, the state of the economy, other folks personal loss, I’m just ever so grateful to get 4 nights of Steely Dan in my backyard. Even if Donald slaughters Glamour Profession like he did last night.
Other highlights from last night’s Gaucho Night besides Donald doing Gaucho:
The call and response between Donald & Tawatha on Time Out of Mind.
Smile on my face.
My Rival – The song is just plain badass. Hell I even voted for it for Internet Request night. Even though I know a milk truck out at Santa Anita has a better chance of coming in. Snarksicity last night.
Godwacker – The entire horn section last night was just brilliant (even Walter knew it – more on that also). Roger’s first fog horn is still sending a dark film noir chill up my spine. Jesus, what was that note?! Then Jon, Keith & Walter brought us home with this night train they created. Hell bent.
Daddy – Out of know where, as many scrambled for the bathrooms Walter nailed the sh*t out of it last night. Perhaps it was the amazing honky tonk work from Jim Beard. The Professor obviously likes playing at home.
Black Cow – Hate to say it, better than Aja night. More Beard & more Rosenthal.
Bodhisattva – Also better than Friday night. Took it to new level. Obviously feeding off another amazing crowd. As Donald would say after, “What a night”. Always thought that would make a good inscription on a tombstone.
Dirty Work – This hyper crowd settled down and hung on every word. Not Bonnie Raitt at Shoreline, but just as captivating. Gorgeous take.
Love is Like an Itchin' in My Heart/Band Intros – Walter acknowledged this great Horn section, with multiple unexpected shout outs. Donald had wondered back onstage, but Walter was still messing with the horn players. So he just jammed away on the melodica. I hate people clapping along, but this crowd made tonight a wonderful thing.
Josie – Surpassed Friday night. I know Jim Beard’s intro is not on the original LP, but it was just so satisfying. Walter and the band kicked it up a notch.
Don’t Take Me Alive & My Old School also topped Friday night’s versions.
Looking forward to see what Larry will bring to the party tomorrow night.
Star gazing: Marg Helgenberger in the house last night.
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009, 19:49:17 ET
Posted by: wormtom, nola
angel - thanks for the great color as a;lays
everyone else as well
glad hearing the crowd was so into it
LA can be a jaded business jabber taking priority over the music at times
yes hearing Donald do Gaucho
just the line
"One more expensive kiss off, ho do you think I am"
would bring tears to my eyes
can't wait for the request show setlist
hopefully they will do an all out with rare stuff when I see them in Detroit in 2 weeks for the tour closer
wormy
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009, 18:17:56 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Thank you, angel. For those of you who don't know this lady, she really truly is an angel, I'm conviced, always positive, always upbeat, always around this music we love, always dancing, dancing...and always just...adorable.
Kisses to you and yours sweetheart, you are our LA heart and soul.
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009, 16:30:49 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
For those into such things. I do put up a few (not great, but hey) photos and a review of sorts on my blog.
After the http stuff, type in.
trustyangelgirl dot blogspot dot com
Hearing Godwacker, is always a thrill for this Trusty Angel Girl. :-)
Oh, in things seen. There was a guy with a "Do the Wu" shirt and I went up to him and asked him where he got it. He knew nothing about this board. A friend brought him to the Dan Fest that year.
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009, 16:08:44 ET
Posted by: Steely Jan, SLC
Nice posts Lurker Ray and angel. My wife and I will be there Tuesday night for request night. Glad to hear about the quality crowd. CANNOT WAIT.
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009, 14:36:55 ET
Posted by: nostatic, socal
Sure, I'd love to see a different setlist at each show, but it isn't realistic, both for audience and band reasons. SD isn't exactly your local bar band pulling out a fake book to take requests. Though I'd pay to see that group do just that.
I've seen them play Josie 8 different times now with 7 different lineups. And each one was a little different. It is the nature of the beast. While I pine for Dr. Wu, Charlie Freak, Fire in the Hole, and any other number of gems, I know it ain't gonna happen. I do appreciate when they have a different slant on the song (eg Show Biz Kids), and I'll have to see if I want to eat my words after Monday's show. Will I be able to live through yet another rendition of Peg?
Well, there are far worse fates... ;-)
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009, 14:28:53 ET
Posted by: Gene, Shalit
I like angel's type of write-up...not a lot of kool aid sippin' accolades but obvioulsy a fan. We'd all (although some of us won't admit it) like to see some changes to the set list that would make the tunes a lot different than the previous year.
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009, 13:48:54 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Hey Tom: Checked out your 29 seconds of the Aja Night. Yep, that was indeed how the whole evening went. Lot's of audience reactions. :-)
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009, 13:44:45 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Still alive after night 2. Hubby is a bit worse for wear, since he had to work both days. Long hours, when you add a concert in. That said, Gaucho kicked major butt!
As Gus said, the Gaucho cut itself was just magical with Donald's snarky rendition. The crowd just ate it up! Not to take a thing away from Walter's version last year, but "The Donald" channels that song so well. It's a pleasure to see "Mr. Steely Dan" in action.
Another eagerly anticipated song for me was My Rival, which I KNOW they would have never done in concert. What a treat to hear those funny, funny lyrics in a concert setting...the smell of prickly pear, indeed. lol
Unfortunately, they then do almost the same set list they did the night before. Not that it's a bad set list, but it would have been nice to see other things. Of course, who am I to complain...the crowd just loves Josie and Peg.
My new friends (obviously I am not the only one who bought tickets for all four nights) and Hubby and I talked about how good the first concert was and how wonderful the audience is. Folks, there are almost NO slackers here. This crowd is here to hear The Dan and they are more then generous with their standing O's and applause. It brings a tear to the eye. I am honored to have been able to afford to go. If those tickets have had to be purchased now, that probably would not have been the case.
Finally a day off. See you all on Monday night.
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009, 11:52:16 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Thanks, Gus.
I look forward to more details and more reports. Of course I am as jealous as one can get.
Date: Sun, August 23, 2009, 04:25:00 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Gaucho Night Setlist:
Intro: Teenie's Blues
Gaucho Album
Godwacker
Daddy Don't Live (WB vocals)
Black Cow
Bodhisattva
Showbiz Kids
Black Friday
Dirty Work (Ladies on vocals)
Love is Like an Itchin' in My Heart/Band Intros
Peg
Josie
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Encore: Reelin' in the Years, Original Version
Outro: Last Tango
Tonight was every bit as good, start to finish, as last night, IMHO. The crowd was pretty vocal again tonight. Having "Hey Nineteen" early in the setlist might have helped set the mood; good standing ovation for that one.
For me, hearing Donald do the Gaucho vocals was probably my favorite moment tonight; nothing against last year's version with WB on vocals, but tonight was better.
After his usual great work on Third World Man, Herington took things up a notch on Black Friday; I thought that was his best of the night.
Out for now...
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 23:40:52 ET
Posted by: catherine o'hara, second city
I was listening to my favourite Saturday Blues tonight on 91.1 from Toronto and they played Jack Gartner's Misery & The Blues ...what a great song! Takes me back to Massey Hall.
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 23:39:09 ET
Posted by: Tom Hayes, san Diego, Ca
I took a total of 29 seconds of video of the show , but the L.A. audience cheered in that 29 seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5QBrBQlPQ4
That's cheering for an off note too :)
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 21:13:21 ET
Posted by: JAYTHE AMERICAN , Chicago
Hi all this my first post. So forgive my lack protocol. Compliments to those who post the set lists. This site has been an invaluable source of information. I have many Steely Dan questions. The most important is: Has SD played "King of the World" on tour since 1974. and if not is there a reason why they don't play it? Thanks!
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 19:23:05 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Aww, c'mon Mr. Ray. Don't sugarcoat it. Tell us how you really feel. After all, you done already testified(yes, insert emoticon here)
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 19:09:11 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
“The trip we made in Hollywood is etched upon my mind” – Steely Dan Aja Night - Universal – Hollywood, California August 21, 2009
12 Noon already? Really. Man what a night. Night ONE of the 2009 of Steely Dan LA “In-N-Out Double-Double” Tour. They kicked it off “Animal” style with extra sauce. I’m sooo glad that we get a day off on Sunday. I’m going to need it! A lot of great reports so far, so I’ll just add a bit and some more specifics. One of the “special”
reports for me comes from my neighbor “David”. Loved the story of his kids streaming the music, blaring into the Malibu late evening and becoming younger converted "SD fans". This is why “Aja” night was going to special for me to. I was 12 when “Aja” came out and my friend Brian’s dad, who was one of the richest guys in town (He owned all of the KFC franchises in town) had this new stereo system -(picture “Risky Businesses)and had just purchased “this new” album. Late one night Friday night I was also “converted” just like David’s kids were last night. Bitten by DF’s “fangs” and “cursed” ;O) to walk the earth as a creature of the Steely Dan night. I too was 12 years old all over again last night.
BTW, "Steely Dan gargles my balls" in "Knocked Up", is very much a “funny joke” because actually Seth Rogen & Judd Apatow are VERY much on record as being “Steely Dan Fans”. So you can pass that along to the new “converts” DG. How awesome was it to be back home at Universal! Good luck getting those “Internet Request” tickets DG, you are going to have to speak with a scalper, because the boys are having no problems selling tickets here in LA. No “two-fer-one” deals needed here. No, as mentioned earlier, the place was packed and “showing the love” last night. I was so proud to be a transplanted “Angelino” last night. Man did we “bring the love”
last night for this band with numerous standing O’s. When they finished “Aja” the roar was deafening.
The sound at Universal is always great, and with the 4 nights they will make it even better if that is possible. Universal IS their LA home. There I said it. Remember, the same two night set lists from 2003 were mirror images of Roseland’s set list that year. Only, we were lucky enough to get soundboard from one of the shows. The first thing I noticed right off the bat, was no “leopard skin tissue dispenser”. Nope, DF was rested, relaxed and in perfect voice.
And it showed.
You should have heard this crowd when D&W took the stage and when “Black Cow” started” it got even louder. “Get out of here” made this manic pep assembly cheer even louder as if that was possible. Mr. Steely Dan was in town, in the building and this crowd from this economically depressed area (who would think that was ever possible)
was out for an evening of entertainment and on fire. D&W and Company “got it” and then “brought it” for the rest of the evening.
“Aja” shimmered like the lights of the valley at night and Keith Carlock made it simmer like the valley in the day time. “Deacon Blue”, Finally back in LA. A highlight for me and this crowd.
“Sue me if I play too long” brought another eruption from this so called “dormant volcano” known as a “LA Audience”. Donald nailed it vocally and it rivaled the magical take we were treated with in 06 at Shoreline. But this time it was “at home” and in “our building”. Walt Weiskopf. Walt Weiskopf.
“Home At Last”. Yes they were. A mythic take last night. And Walter Becker’s amazing guitar work was like a “light house” drawing us safely from the rocks as this incredible horn section drew us in with their “siren call”. The crowd brought a “ten foot” wave crashing to beach as the song ended. “I Got The News”, this so called “TMZ” crowd “got it” and “gave it back”.
“Josie”, when Josie comes home? When Steely Dan comes home. As the last flourishes faded from Keith’s drum kit, this crowd lost it’s mind. One of the longest and loudest ovations I have ever heard at a “Steely Dan Show”. “Wow, is this really an LA audience joked Kermit, yes Kermmy IT IS. What a proud moment for us much maligned LA Steely Dan fans. It was louder and longer than the roar that great Boston crowd made when it Donald told them that hey were “gonna play two” opening night in Beantown.
“Time Out Of Mind”, “what is that thing”? The gal next to me asked. I guess it takes balls as big as dragons to play a melodica on stage. Don swung his last night. A hot time in Hollywood.
“Daddy Don't Live in NYC”, Nope, he was in LA last night. When are you going to treat us to a Circus Money live show Daddy?
“Bodhisattva”, What a treat and Jon Herington really shattered “Mom’s Finest”. Usually fond at the top of a SD set to fire up the crowd. But this crow didn’t need any firing up.
They once again erupted as it ended. You would have thought Steely Dan was using a “show runner” and an “Applause Sign” last night.
“Babylon Sisters”, All of the California references got cheers and when the gals dressed impeccably in their black sequins told the sisters to “shake it”, this audience responded with a California rumbler.
“Showbiz Kids” The “stars” were out last night. Many now parking cars or pumping their own gas with all of our “last wages” gave a huge ovation for “The Branded Signage” on their apparel. And boy DO They give a f*ck about this band.
“Parker's Band”, Yes they did come from as far as Camarillo to take apiece of this band last night. And they got it and road it bareback like the mechanical bull next door.
“Hey 19”, Big “Say it Again Babe” sing along from this house. And they didn’t even need a “bouncing ball”.
“Love is Like an Itchin' In My Heart” Hey 19 started the dancing down front and this “blast” kept then dancing. Wow, and it is basically a “band intro tune”. This crowd was real live wire just itchin to dance. Big ovations for all in the band but when Kermit hopped back out onstage the rest of these muppets went apesh*t.
“Black Friday”, The only thing “dark” about this crowd and show was the theatre and maybe the “Aja” T shirts in the crowd. If Donald is “Kermit The Frog”, the Keith IS
“Animal”. And he brought it “Animal Style” all night long. Much of his amazing work was trickier than a three bishops puzzle last night.
“Do It Again”, Jon’s solo is still blazing in my ears. Wow.
“Don't Take Me Alive”, Another Jon Herington salvo. An unexpected treat. D&W and company had been making it clear all night that they have come to town for 4 nights and they weren’t going to take any prisoners.
“My Old School”, Given the recent setlists, I didn’t think we would her this tonight. Your were not going to stop them from dancing down front now. Nice to have it not
“ending” a show for a change. “California tumbles” gets a huge roar. This town knows how to laugh at itself. We really don’t have another choice when it come down to it.
“Kid Charlemagne”, from “Don’t Take Me Alive” on, it was a Jon Herington “Double-Double”. Just spectacular. This one had them bolting like a Jamaican sprinter for the aisles to “shake it”. Plenty of fuel in this LA audience. What a sing-a-long! And what a long standing O before Kermit, Fozzie and company came back on stage.
Reelin' In The Years (72 Version), What a blast to finally hear live. What a night. “The trip we made in Hollywood is etched upon my mind”.
That was the first Steely Dan show I have seen that after I didn’t hear someone complain about not “hearing their favorite song”. Hell, and it wasn’t even internet request night yet. Well I’m off to the pool to “soak” in the sun so I can go back jack, and do it all over again tonight.
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 17:06:05 ET
Posted by: dg, malibu
KD .... thanks for clearing up .... but no disrespect card being played here .... the line from the movie was simply a catalyst for the kids to ask questions about the band I grew up with.
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 16:59:42 ET
Posted by: Jammin Joe, Hollywood, CA
Was at the Show last night. Great show. You can not find a more professional bunch of musicians. It was an AJA show- and they cam out and nailed it perfectly! Going back for Gaucho tonight!
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 16:20:41 ET
Posted by: nostatic, socal
Sure your kids were the youngest? I actually saw a fair amount of pre-teens there. My so was with me last night, and his first concert actually was last year at the Anaheim show (at age 11). He has been raised on the kool aid though, as the first song he ever sang was a spontaneous emission from the back seat of the car at age 1.5, crooning, "back...jack...do it again..."
*sniff* Makes a father proud. Now at age 12 and a year or so of piano lessons he's taken a little different turn, as most of the songs he's learned are Beatles tunes. He did figure out "Rikki" though...
I've never seen Herington smile so much. He was positively giddy at the end of the show. He was on fire for a couple of the tunes, and Reelin' was quite the homage to the original Randall riffs - much truer than past renditions. Not that being note-for-note is required (and in fact I prefer some interpretation) but it is nice to hear certain "perfect" fills recreated.
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 15:49:22 ET
Posted by: KD, o-l-l
The SD fan persecution complex continues.
People, the line in "Knocked Up," let me be clear, here, WAS WRITTEN BY A STEELY DAN FAN.
Stop playing the "no respect" card and lighten up a bit.
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 13:16:55 ET
Posted by: DG, Malibu
After my teenage kids heard "Steely Dan gargles my balls" in "Knocked Up", my wife and I decided to give them a night of AJA in L.A. ... yes, they were the youngest ones there ... BUT.... they were in heaven ! My daughter was steaming their music throughout in the house until 1 a.m. and my 13 son was completely blown away. Don't Take Me Alive, My Old School, Kid Charlemagne, and Time Out of Mind are officially on their ipods.
They woke up this morning and asked to go back to Internet request night ! We will be there. I'm going back tonight for Goucho with my college roommate.
"The future looks bright "
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 11:15:07 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Thanks for mentioning Deacon Blues. The crowd obviously considered that their song and gave it a standing O, too. At one point I was so happy with how this LA crowd was behaving (many wanted to dance but they would be good to their neighbors and sit) come the end, they would be up again showing their love at the break between songs that I shouted something like, "This is LA!" just so Donald and Walter KNEW that we love them here in this town. It was truly a spine tingling evening. The band feeding off the crowd type thing. Lot's of songs played that were LA centric and the crowd acknowledged every one.
Set List that I wrote down:
Teenie's Blues
Aja (the Album)
Time Out Of Mind
Daddy Don't Live in NYC (Walter Vocals)
Bodhisattva
Babylon Sisters (Definitely an LA song)
Showbiz Kids (Lots of screams and claps for the F bomb)
Parker's Band
Hey 19
Love is Like an Itchin' In My Heart (Band Intros)
Black Friday
Do It Again
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Encore
Reelin' In The Years (72 Version)
Last Tango Outro
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 09:56:02 ET
Posted by: Ms., Piggy
...maybe his finger was green and smelled like Pork?
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 07:12:30 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
angel et al., thanks for the observations...so the LA crowd was all warm and fuzzy, huh? Did they pass out mood elevators at the door perhaps?
Donald does sound a little like Kermit the Frog, I bet he'd give a nice renedring of, "It's Not Easy Being Green."
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 04:59:17 ET
Posted by: Tom Hayes, San Diego, Ca
Just got back from the L.A. show.I thought it sounded pretty darned good (although I think the horns could have been a bit louder, especially during My Old School.)
Crowd was very enthusiastic, and for the most part very well behaved. (Note to blackberry suers - turn off the Flash when taking a picture of the band in concert.)
The tunes were note perfect for the most part, if you don't count Donald Fagen not hitting some of the notes he used to. But that's the way it goes for 99% of rockers.
Reelin' really got people pumped at the end of the show.
The setlists posted here seem accurate.
Joe Walsh sat about two rows down from me, but that's the only celeb I spotted.
Had a pretty good time. Next week - Vegas!
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 04:09:26 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
A great start to the LA shows; we were up in the center balcony for this one and could see the whole crowd; as Angel said, they were frequently on their feet. At the end of Josie, during the extended standing ovation, Donald said, "Is this really an LA audience?"
This show was officially sold out, but the wings of the amphitheater were curtained off, so the crowd tonight was maybe between 4500 and 5000, assuming that the total seating is about 6000.
I could not see at all in the balcony, so the setlist below could contain errors in order or possibly omission:
Intro: Teenie's Blues (?)
Aja Album
Time Out of Mind
Daddy Don't Live...(WB Vocals)
Bodhisattva
Babylon Sisters
Show Biz Kids
Parker's Band
Hey Nineteen (No WB discussion)
Black Friday
Love is Like an Itchin' in My Heart/Band Intros
Do It Again
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
ENCORE: Reelin' In The Years, Original Version
Outro: Last Tango
If I had to pick one highlight tonight, it would be Deacon Blues, due in large part to Weiskopf's sax work.
More tomorrow...
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 03:31:18 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
I wasn't really into an Aja night, but OMG! They made me a believer. It was just spectacular! The LA crowd was on their feet multiple times. At the start of Aja, at the end of the cut Aja, at the end of the album. After a while of that, Donald said something like "We are now going to do some of our hits. Everyone just sit down and we will do the rest".
Another time he said something like he felt like Kermit the Frog tonight. Not sure why.
He was just GREAT!
They closed with Reelin' 72 and it was just spectacular!
Gaucho tomorrow. :-)
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 03:06:39 ET
Posted by: nostatic, socal
Awesome show. Probably the best of the 8 I've seen (93, 94, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2008, now 2009). Fagan was very into it. No patter, just playing and singing the crap out of the tunes.
Didn't note the complete setlist but included (not in order):
All of Aja (duh)
Time Out of Mind
Hey Nineteen
Babylon Sisters
Parker's Band
Daddy Don't Live
Show Biz Kids
Bodhisattva
Do It Again
Black Friday
Don't Take Me Alive
Kid Charlemenge
Reelin' in the Years
My Old School
It was very no-nonsense. The band seemed to be fired up. Carlock is god.
And the LA audience was very into it. No talkers around me, people only sang along towards the end, but were very appreciative. Can't wait for Monday...
Date: Sat, August 22, 2009, 01:05:56 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Joey: You might want to monitor and adjust your hydration. A course of antibiotics or bag of olestraized potato chips might be to blame on the one end. And if you take hypertension medication or explosive catalyst, salt peter, that could explain the other. Sort of Depends.
Date: Fri, August 21, 2009, 21:54:16 ET
Posted by: Bri and, Auger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I1TSBRbYGE&feature=related
5:12 - sublime
Date: Fri, August 21, 2009, 20:38:58 ET
Posted by: SD, Home At Last
Finally in the West where they belong. The boys will be happy to get before their real fans.
Set list please.
Date: Fri, August 21, 2009, 17:55:47 ET
Posted by: Mark in Toronto,
I will be in Chicago for The Royal Scam and a Cubs game. I also received the 2 for 1 offer from the Chicago Theater for the Gaucho show. If anyone is interested in splitting a pair of tickets for the Gaucho show please contact me.
Date: Fri, August 21, 2009, 16:58:17 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" The more I research the "Rent Party Tour" the more I realize that it's time for Steely Dan to hang it up. Have they even sold out a half dozen shows on this tour? And these are small intimate venues. The shows? Many booked in the toothless/inbred redneck/right wing extremist/ South but very fews shows, if any, in the Midlands and Northwest. The setlist? Basically the same old same old. Reelin' being played twice in one night? Rip off. It's time to hang it up Don and Walt or risk suffering on the cocktail lounge circuit in the very near future. "
Now THIS makes young Joey lose control of his bladder and bowels .
Why ?!
Date: Fri, August 21, 2009, 16:35:51 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
In regard to the 2 for one thing. I know I get a weekly email about 2 for a Tuesday from, I believe, Ticketmaster. It's a standard advertising ploy. It doesn't mean anything specific to Steely Dan and their Chicago show.
Aja tonight...me and Hubby will see whoever we see.
Date: Fri, August 21, 2009, 15:35:14 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" All four SD shows in Chicago are weeknights. The Tuesday, 9/1 show for Gaucho must be a bad night for concerts because the Chicago Theatre is offering "Two-for-one" tickets . "
http://msgnyc.com/viewmsg.cfm?n35043s13932c21245809t13943
This makes Joey very sad .
Date: Fri, August 21, 2009, 12:25:05 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Kenny's fifth Beatle story is all pretty cut and dried in here:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.steelydanarchive.com
It's hard to believe Chuck Rainey is broke, man. His schedule might keep him tired, but there's no way he's old. He sure looks like he always has, y'know, old.
Date: Fri, August 21, 2009, 10:21:20 ET
Posted by: hank,
For those of you that don't know...Chuck Rainey is an old, tired and broke man. When I say broke, I mean penniless. His big gig these days is plating bass in a SD cover band in Dallas.
Date: Fri, August 21, 2009, 08:50:12 ET
Posted by: Asbury Park Press, coast
Don & Walt were "proteges" of Kenny Vance. Yeah right.
http://www.app.com/article/200908210410/ENT/908210301
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 20:18:27 ET
Posted by: Denise, goin' down the cape
Angel, Gus, L-Ray, and all: have a great time at the shows. Looking forward to reading your comments.
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 19:56:04 ET
Posted by: Nosebleeder,
There's no question that the Fagen/Becker duo came up with some revolutionary ideas at the time. Even in their early unpublished songs they still have an almost ethereal feel to them. They were also extremely fortunate to have come of age at a time when big record companies would finance huge projects like the ones they implemented. This would never have happened in todays bottomline world...
Record companies today would laugh at Fagen and Becker. As soon as they started talking about their eloborate plans and huge studio/musician budgets they'd be tuned right out. Music companies today want it cheap, they want it fast, they want to appeal to the easily amused, but mostly they want to make a fast buck off it. That's why they LOVE Rap, Metal, girl bands, boy bands, teenage strippers like Britney, anything that's fast and cheap to make that will turn a EASILY turn a buck. "Art" ain't got nuthin' to do with it.
And that's the fucked up times we live in, where true artists aren't seriously supported. You have a whole generation (perhaps two) who really know nothing beyond McDonalds and Burger King level entertainment. In the past they said "Art is dead", but I fear this time it really may be...
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 19:37:48 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
wormtom, I wish I'd been two rows behind you Fryday night as I've never had to SIT through so much (an entire) show ever.
In '06 Rainey got a shout out from the stage from WB during band intros. Seems kind of weird after his 1996 chapter in the book. I guess everyone subscribes to the "...time heals all..." system. Chuck certainly is subscribing to the backyard/frontyard plan. Gee. If B&F can't read music, presumeably, that would make charting kind of difficult which is more-or-less what Rainey is saying. You'd think an inability/handicap like that would have come to light before now. Makes me wonder how those first two or three ABC albums got ready for pressing or how they got the JATA gigs in the first place.
Maybe the explanation is missing in the next two pages, but there certainly seems to be a form of bashing going on there that is being qualified by the WB influence. Well, another one for the wishlist.
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 18:22:41 ET
Posted by: wormtom, nola
Rainey lives in the south so it isn't him
quote "Many booked in the toothless/inbred redneck/right wing extremist/ South but very fews shows, if any, in the Midlands and Northwest."
perhaps they played the heck out of the midwest and northwest a few tours ago and ignored the south
the memphis show was sold out - but only a 4,000 seat arena
as for toothless, inbreds
I saw a few neanderthals in Alabama
but Memphis looked like a more sophisticated crowd
(at least till they opened their mouths..)
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 17:50:33 ET
Posted by: Questioner,
Regarding the Chicago comments about Royal Scam which the newspaper guy mis named "Countdown to Ecstasy", was Royal Scam really recorded mostly in NYC? I thought Royal Scam was done in L.A and the move to NYC didn't happen until Gaucho. Then again Hugh McCracken and Purdie were on Scam too . It seems as if those Becker and Fagen quotes refer to Gaucho and not Royal Scam.
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 17:10:05 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, San Francisco
The Pre-Show LA Danfests WILL take place each evening beginning at 6:05 at the Saddle Ranch Chop House.
Last minute changes in details will be on the LosAngelesATdandomDOTcom email list. An RSVP is required. Please see http://dandom.com/danfests/losangeles for further information and who to contact for RSVP.
There's also a Mapquest link on the Danfest page showing how the Saddle Ranch is just steps from the Gibson.
Finally, an extensive archive of the discussions over the past week appears via a link towards the very bottom of the L.A. Danfest page.
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 16:47:24 ET
Posted by: Tom Hayes, San Diego
Is Chuck Rainey the poster ItsOverGuys??
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 15:54:29 ET
Posted by: It's Over Guys, Here At The Western World
The more I research the "Rent Party Tour" the more I realize that it's time for Steely Dan to hang it up. Have they even sold out a half dozen shows on this tour? And these are small intimate venues. The shows? Many booked in the toothless/inbred redneck/right wing extremist/ South but very fews shows, if any, in the Midlands and Northwest. The setlist? Basically the same old same old. Reelin' being played twice in one night? Rip off. It's time to hang it up Don and Walt or risk suffering on the cocktail lounge circuit in the very near future.
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 13:57:56 ET
Posted by: new article, w
http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/turn_it_up/2009/08/steely-dan-transitions-from-studio-perfectionists-to-road-warriors.html
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 12:28:45 ET
Posted by: tripel, nyc
tunes I'd love to see live:
Kings
Razor Boy
Monkey In Your Soul
Turn that Heartbeat Over
Midnight Cruiser
Boston Rag
Everyone's Gone To the Movies
Pearl of the Quarter
Rose Darling
Everyone's Gone To the Movies
Any World
King of the World
With A Gun
I can dream, can't I?
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 11:39:37 ET
Posted by: worm tom, nola
Chuck Rainey -
the guy has a major point
take those albums - without session players
they are not fully formed
takes a genius to be the catalyst and make this happen
the fact that you surround yourself with incredible musicians to make it happen - more power to you
Chuck got a nice little embellishment in the "Making of Aja" dvd
the guy is a legend in bass circles and has got more mileage off Steely Dan than any other thing he did - he ought to, it's legendary
he recognizes the front and back yard analogy
I'd bitch too, when you are not that well compensated for your gift to the world
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 11:34:08 ET
Posted by: Chicago,
All four SD shows in Chicago are weeknights. The Tuesday, 9/1 show for Gaucho must be a bad night for concerts because the Chicago Theatre is offering "Two-for-one" tickets .
http://msgnyc.com/viewmsg.cfm?n35043s13932c21245809t13943
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 11:25:40 ET
Posted by: Nosebleeder, The Final Frontier
Fagen and Becker are "geniuses"? Well let's put it this way... someone has to have the vision to accomplish a goal, but the accomplishment of that goal is dependent on a whole host of geniuses. I mean who gets the credit for putting a man on the moon, JFK? Sure he had the orginal vision to do so, and he got the aerospace community to buy into the idea, but he himself (and other leaders to follow) didn't actually accomplish the end task, it was an entire orchestra of extremely smart and talented engineers who did that...
Fagen and Becker had the vision to set the ball in motion, but their biggest achievement was getting other worldclass professionals to buy into their ideas. Without Carlton and Rainey and Feldman and all the other musicians who worked to accomplish the goal, the goal would never have been achieved. Certainly none of those basslines, drum tracks, or guitar solos were the work of either of these guys (or very little of it was). Personally I think the reason Steely Dan isn't more improvisational in concert is because they can't be... They're doing it all from rote. They're trying to recreate the work of someone else really. In that respect it's almost as if they're a tribute band of sorts.
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 11:21:03 ET
Posted by: Jack Webb, Universal Studios, Overtime
Chuck Rainey also loves to bash Quincy Jones. And whine that no one
in Dallas will hire him. Boo hoo. Stop all of your whining Chuck and (ala Sam Kinison) MOVE TO WHERE THE GIGS ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
....just facts and the craft services table
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 11:20:55 ET
Posted by: Dave, Milwaukee
The Chicago Tribune is really mixed up. The guy who writes this is a columnist for Rolling Stone and has that NPR music show.
=====
August 20, 2009
Steely Dan: How 'Countdown,' 'Aja' and 'Gaucho' stack up
Here are the albums Steely Dan will perform in concert Aug. 31 ("Aja"), Sept. 1 ("Gaucho") and Sept. 3 ("The Royal Scam") at the Chicago Theatre, with comments from Donald Fagen and Walter Becker on the creation of each:
“Countdown to Ecstasy” (1976)
Becker: “We had been recording in L.A. all along and decided to do this one in New York, looking for a more brash musical personality.”
Fagen: “We both had had it with L.A. by that point and we really wanted to play with certain people in New York, like [drummer] Bernard Purdie. We’re drummer freaks.”
---snip----
Aja and Gaucho snippets follow------->see http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/turn_it_up/2009/08/steely-dan-how-countdown-aja-and-gaucho-stack-up.html?obref=obnetwork
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 11:00:48 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Addendum to my last post:
The reason I made/can make the previous statements/observations concerning SD is because I, myself, am/have been just as vulnerable/susceptible to the aforementioned situations and mentations. :)
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 10:40:05 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
RE: DF and/or WB bashing:
When you come from a well-off family and you're smart as a whip, you, (laughingly/sadly) think the world is your oyster. However, waiting around the bend, as always happens, is some major/minor diaster that no matter how smart you are, ultimately takes you down. 9 times out of 10, the smartest people, ironically, sabotage themselves.
I think the irony to DF/WB is, when they isolated themselves to make "perfect" albums (in which they were successful, no doubt) in the mid-to-late '70s, they also simultaneously cut themselves off from some vital forms of reality - such as, daily compromise/dealings w/ mundane people/situations, humility(why would/should they have felt this?), daily interaction w/ people they have to get along with (tolerate), financial difficulties, etc. In a way, they were their own oligarchy. Who was going to defy them?
They needed/need, as does every great performer/talent, someone to remind them that they are human and consequently capable of being a shitheel - no matter how great they are/think they are.
I know the above had nothing directly to do w/ the Chuck R. statements, however, if the sidemen were that intrinsically instrumental in the development and realization of the Dan's mid-to-late canon of work as Chuck claims, that to me, is reason enough for them to be humble.
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 03:28:48 ET
Posted by: Lutz, Sf
book: where is the bashing? That's the account from a guy who has been there, Chuck Rainey - have you? Sounds real to me, D+W would probable be cool enough to not discredit what happened and how things came about. Masterminds also know how to get the best out of the people around them. They are the first one's to tell you they were no Ellington's back then.
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2009, 01:08:03 ET
Posted by: ghod, whakker
boo hoo hoo, i live in gorgeous malibu and my life is a BIG MESS.
whaaaaa!! i get to eat at: http://www.malibuseafood.com/ anytime i want. how horrible!
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 23:41:52 ET
Posted by: book search, kb
More Don bashing from Chuck Rainey
http://tinyurl.com/my3bex
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 20:22:39 ET
Posted by: Laurie, on the Central Coast
Here's a tangentally related item: We saw Jackson Browne in Avila Beach last night. Jeff Young was on the keyboards and did a lot of vocals too. It was nice to see him; sad to know he won't be with the Dan next Tuesday when we see them in LA.
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 19:07:17 ET
Posted by: biscayne bay boy, atlanta
In Atlanta, Sam Yahel and co. took the stage right at the 8pm start time, and played for about 35 minutes. Beware though, there was barely a 10 minute break before Teenie's Blues started. Don and Walter were on stage by 8:50 eastern.
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 17:19:15 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Hey Dave/ I used to live out there'why are you guys always running late? I know traffic is a bitch but plan for it. Forty Five mins has been the average for the opener according to most on the Blue. I would then get there prob at least a hour early if not 1 & 1/4 just to be sure. Still miss Cali once in awhile' enjoy the show!!!
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 16:07:12 ET
Posted by: david, malibu
Help please .... I might be late for the Friday night show. Does anyone know how long the opening band plays for ?
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 13:40:12 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Yeah. I've been listening to some , er, umm... uh, memories from days gone by, and they were neat then, too. Maybe it was the girls. Maybe the two breaks; or the pause. Maybe we were just doing it again.
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 12:52:05 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
Prov. Reuben:
The revamped Do It Again arrangement has been in the SD "book" since 1995. The verses are lowered to a more reasonable range for DF (the CBAT version was a bit high for him even in 72, and David Palmer sang it live during his brief tenure - check YouTube) then modulates during the solos to the original key. The coda with the drum breaks and lots of trademark SD "mu major" chords was around as far back as 1974.
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 12:17:29 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Talk about your must-sees, always try to catch a/the Memphis event during Death Days.
Went looking in the Comm. Appeal Sat. morn for the review, but it had snuck from the Arts into the Local section. And of course it was a review of Elvis 1969. Many of the mucks for that showed in the Peabody Fry night around closing time. The CA review of SD and the comments it spawned were sort of amusing.
DF did, indeed, seem to be the most relaxed out front that I can ever remember him. His performance was certainly happier than '07. A couple of times, he wandered almost all the way to JH.
When DF said, "Let's get started, babies." It boded well.
I keep going back to Do It Again as a high point. After Daddy Don't, there was a pause, and DF began lightly, gently, dare I say, tenderly, picking out notes or tune at his piano under a spot. After about 10 or so seconds, he said, "Tuning break." And then he said, "Tuning break over." And the sort of mysterious beginning of DIA began. The choir seemed to mostly carry the vocal although DF sang too. When the solos came, they were in a different key. The modulation went down twice, and both solos were guitar heavy-- expected the first time but not the second. During the end/outro during the drum/horn interplay, KC, during his most extended flurry, stopped. And for just a kundst pausen of a second, there was silence. Euphony resumed with the subito ending. It was neat. Of course, it could all have been der rigeur, too.
The (what we thought was) Elvisoid ending and the (accidental?) spotlight on FW during Kid C was another smecking good time.
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 10:57:06 ET
Posted by: nwk, Newark, MD
hey congrats soulmonkey--gads enjoy! thx to lyrics, tony, gm, henrod, hoops, suedave, gwb, bc, lr, and all for the good read this morn with my cafe ole. Nwk. geez.
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 10:42:57 ET
Posted by: GauchoAmigo, North Hollywood
Here's my list.
Any Major Dude
Any World
Bad Sneakers
Boston Rag
Chain Lightning
Dirty Work
Do It Again
Dr Wu
Everyones Gone to the Movies
My Old School
Night by Night
Parkers Band
Pretzel Logic
Reelin' (both versions)
Rikki
Show Biz Kids
Things I Miss the Most
Two Against Nature
Your Gold Teeth
I tried to keep the list to songs not from the three albums they will play on the other nights. Gus, see you Friday, and Lurker Ray, I hope to meet you. I think we were in the same row at Honda Center.
_
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 10:38:41 ET
Posted by: BT, NY
Story about Barrytown, NY, how it got its name, and a mention of Pretzel Logic.
http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/article/20090819/NEWS01/908190324
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 10:26:01 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks Gus. I forgot to type in
"Everything Must Go" to my list
last night. It will be interesting
to see how it pans out.
Brutus, understood. If it's any
consolation, I always thought
Entwistle was a badass on the
Frenchy. And George Martin made
me dig the tone.
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 10:01:26 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Lurker Ray-
You're probably right about me taking WB too seriously.
But still, I mean, if he wasn't "WB" - just another struggling
musician trying to make things happen - how would he sound to you?
It's because of his very fame/success that he can make "jokes" like that and people listen (some have to listen). I think that's what pisses me off the most. Jeez even Mingus and G. Evans wrote for/used french horns. And when he condemns 'bones, well... he just sounds ignorant.
There's just so many great players (JJ Johnson, Rosolino, Fontana, Jimmy Cleveland, Curtis Fuller, Slide Hampton, et.al) come and gone that have well-established that instrument's place in the evolution of jazz.
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 08:25:19 ET
Posted by: morning news, US
Here's another guy who clearly "gets" SD.
http://www.oregonlive.com/music/index.ssf/2009/08/song_of_the_day_deacon_blues_b.html
"The songs aren't overly complex, but they aren't Black Eyed Peas stupid. And a lot of them crack the 5-minute mark. Bottom line: You don't have to think too much."
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 03:35:07 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Ray,
Here is my list:
Any Major Dude
Any World That I'm Welcome To
Bad Sneakers
Black Friday
Bodhisattva
Boston Rag
Chain Lightning
Dirty Work
Dr. Wu
Everyone's Gone to the Movies
Everything Must Go
Here at the Western World
My Old School
Night By Night
Pretzel Logic
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Show Biz Kids
Sign In Stranger
The Last Mall
Your Gold Teeth
Since we are seeing the other 3 album nights, I basically adopted a "pre-Royal-Scam" strategy. The one exception was "Sign In Stranger" which I have never heard, so I am hoping for a repeat performance. The previous show reports caused me to drop "The Fez", since I was hoping to hear DF on vocals. Incidentally, Mrs. GW's ballot differed from mine by 4 songs; she omitted Chain Lightning, Dirty Work, Rikki, and Sign In Stranger, and instead chose Godwhacker, Reelin (Club Mix), Things I Miss The Most, and Two Against Nature.
Date: Wed, August 19, 2009, 00:49:29 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Jesus Brutus Charisma, ever heard of
a "joke". Why do you even follow this
band then? You sound like a high school
band nerd that got all butt hurt by a
WB joke. Lighten up Francis.
As we await the LA "Double, Double"
I was wondering if any other folks would
be willing to post their LA "Internet
Requests" Gus? angel? I took a screen
shot when I voted:
Any Major Dude
Any World
Babylon Sisters
Bad Sneakers
Chain Lightning
Deacon Blue
Dr. Wu
Everything You Did
Gaslighting Abbie
Here At The Western World
Lunch With Gina
My Rival
Night By Night
Pretzel Logic
Reelin' Club Mix
Rikki
Sign In Stranger
Things I Miss The Most
Your Gold Teeth
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 22:08:35 ET
Posted by: suedave, sunville
I was at the Boston show when Wu was played. I missed the very first part because my emotions got the better of me, but pulled myself together quicker than I would have thought possible. It's the power of the tune (don't you dare miss one more note of this song). It was played wonderfully - Donald in great voice, the band tight, and WW solo more melodic than the NY version I heard on 8/1.
For the 7/25 show, all the tunes on that hadn't been played in a long time were also tight, which kinda surprised me. The band was hot - everyone was totally on. If they had played Chain Lightning it would have been the best show ever! Now that I think of it, it is right up there with my first SD show in 1994 - there's always going to be something special about that show. What a night!
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 21:50:37 ET
Posted by: bobbo, carried along...
Well,
My-my, but the Blue is getting fun to read, again! Rajah, it's good to see you're alive, and still prolifically expressing here...
Hoops, I don't know from the Tweetist trend, being Nearly Aged, myself, but I have SO enjoyed the input of all of our endorsed reporters, especially Girl Margaret--of course. Makes me feel like I was there, in many instances, y'all, and I can only thank you for sharing! Kudos to all of the personal observations, notes, and setlists and reviews from the European end of the current Deal, as well...
Golly. It's a kind, living entity of its own power and majesty, the Bluebook we're given of late. Love and Peace to all...selah.
And...maybe Detroit? Let me know, I'll be lookin' for ya, for sure.
Okay,
Bobbo
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 21:02:34 ET
Posted by: ws, kb
Browsing some books online, I found this in a list of Desert Island records from critic Greil Marcus.
http://tinyurl.com/qfzdz9
When Aja came out, he trashed it big time in The Village Voice saying it lacked the passion of Dr. Wu and Any World and that D & W took on an unhealthy air of superiority to their fans. An interesting read if you can find it at the library.
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 20:18:31 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Wu Sax -
"And Walter Becker was right about french horns. Keep them at the back of the orchestra with their bells facing away from the audience."
In the context of SD, french horns wouldn't do. But in the context of the orchestra, Richard Strauss or Mahler(who wrote lots o' great horn parts) could kick WB's ass anyday of the week - much better composers and performers than he will ever be.
REMEMBER: Anyone who has to condemn (unprovoked) another professional musician - bad, good or great as WB often has, is suspect. Usually they are ironically insecure about their own abilities. Notice that has DF never, ever publically condemned a particular instrument or (a)player(s) of any instrument.
SD related: When have you ever heard Larry Carlton speak condemningly of anyone? And he, can kick, has kicked, more guy's asses on the guitar than WB ever could.
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 20:12:02 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
SF Dan Fan, you...let me get this straight...you SKIP OVER Dr. Wu? Sweet Jesu, seek help immediately. You need a shrink and a musicologist post-haste. What songs do you like?
This worries me...
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 19:55:54 ET
Posted by: Mer., Boston
RE: Caption for Forwardgirl's poster posting a few days ago:
"Don, you actually want to play Wu AGAIN?"
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 17:31:24 ET
Posted by: wu sax,
Walt Weiskopf makes his alto sax sound like a soprano sax on Wu. We know what the boys think of the soprano sax...
And Walter Becker was right about french horns. Keep them at the back of the orchestra with their bells facing away from the audience.
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 15:18:35 ET
Posted by: biff diggerence, West of Philly
(Speaking of Fagen's voice, is there anyone, anywhere, who sounds at all like him?)
Jerry Lewis?
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 14:56:53 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, San Francisco
Boy, you guys really like Dr Wu. So much discussion over that song. Personally, not my fave and I skip over it when listening to the boys, but it sure prompts a lot of 'fire in the hole', if you will.
Looks like over at the LA Danfest they are settling in on a location for their shindig. Looking forward to "sharing the things we know and love, with those of my kind, libations, sensations, that stagger the mind."
Hoping to meet some other bluebook posters this weekend.
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 13:34:41 ET
Posted by: Jack Webb, Un Marked SC
Well according to this hack, "The Nightfly" was played in Memphis!
Who knew!
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/aug/16/steely-dan-in-retro-spect/?partner=RSS
...just the facts
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 13:14:17 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Dave, I really don't think Don & Walt care much what's said on here, and I don't think they're insecure to the point that our little criticisms affect them in any way.
Walt Weiskopf is a very cerebral player, his choices are not predictable, he's challenging to listen to, his style is not derivative of anyone I can think of. What he's been doing on Dr. Wu is far afield from the Phil Woods solo we all admire so very much. So it's tough to warm up to.
Of course the sound on Utube is spotty but I believe we do get some tiny flavor of what might have gone on. So I don't believe we can discount what we do hear on there entirely.
I'm certain Michael Leonhart and his section could cook up a real nice 4-part on the Dr. Wu bridge in short order.
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 11:18:10 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Then at the Phil Woods bridge, the full four horn section blows, blows hard. And this is where we need to hear the signature notes and they must raise the hairs on the back of your neck. Then quiet again, the tide rolls back out to sea, and let Donald creek his way through till the end, flaws and all. The girls have to be very restrained as well on the ritornello, whispers. But what to do about an ending...hmmm...problem there, this song never had a proper ending. Something definite, something better than the fade out. "
Rajah ............................
Oh , that is Beautiful .
I would like to tickle you with me erect nipples.
JJJJJJJJJJJACKY !
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 10:15:06 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
"So now here comes opinion, my concern. If people complain about the sound based on YouTube videos, I worry that Steely dan will change their mind arrange to have them pulled, lest they give a distorted impression of the performance."
Dave,
Seriously? Do you really think that they would care what anyone thinks about anything? Least of all commenters on YouTube? I can't see those egomaniacs giving any credence to any of our opinions about anything. But that's just MY opinion.
Scott
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 09:53:09 ET
Posted by: Memphis, Review
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/aug/16/steely-dan-in-retro-spect/
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 09:46:29 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
All I can say about Wu live is that it sounded damn near perfect in Boston. The outro (Wieskopf and Carlock) shook me to the core and brought a tear to me eye. Of course, I was there, I knew it was being played for the first time ever, and I was not quite sober. Still, the YouTube clips I've seen are far from the visceral experience I had in Boston.
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 09:20:46 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Rajah -
PERFECT rendering for the "New Wu". Right on, right on...
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 07:48:20 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba71, Brighton
Hi,
I'm putting together a list of tracks that contain Steely samples, IE De La Soul's 'Eye Know'. Can any of you guys help? Does anyone know of any obscurity's that i haven't heard?
Many thanks in advance,
kuleebaba71
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 01:05:39 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
Dave, my take on WW's solo is based on what I heard on youtube. I have not been at any of the shows.
Rajah, you spoke my mind. I was thinking earlier a full blast from the horns might work during the solo section. And yes, quiet and tender is what seems to fit overall for the tune, again imo.
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 00:30:07 ET
Posted by: Dave,
Regarding the comment that WW's sax sounds too busy on Dr Wu.
Are you referring to it sounding too busy on YouTube or are speaking from first person experience having been at a show where it was performed or from neither of those possible experiences?
Just wondering so I know where this is coming fron. I've not actually heard Dr Wu from any location.
The fact is that for most shows, recording them is by the rule not permitted, although apparently Steely Dan and it's agents don't care if they end up on YouTube.
So now here comes opinion, my concern. If people complain about the sound based on YouTube videos, I worry that Steely dan will change their mind arrange to have them pulled, lest they give a distorted impression of the performance.
Enjoy the shows and I enjoy the discussion here.
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 00:25:55 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Fashion a 30 second opening verse for Jim Beard, disguising the Dr. Wu signature chords, ala Dirty Work YTK, take the rhythm section down way way low and let Donald enter. Quiet is the key to this song, I think. Keith is indeed stiff on the Utube clips, he needs to chill out on Dr. Wu, this is NOT a drum song by any stretch. Tender rimshot backbeat and hi-hat. Then at the Phil Woods bridge, the full four horn section blows, blows hard. And this is where we need to hear the signature notes and they must raise the hairs on the back of your neck. Then quiet again, the tide rolls back out to sea, and let Donald creek his way through till the end, flaws and all. The girls have to be very restrained as well on the ritornello, whispers. But what to do about an ending...hmmm...problem there, this song never had a proper ending. Something definite, something better than the fade out.
Date: Tues, August 18, 2009, 00:20:45 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
The Dr. Wu sax solo as played by W.W. sounds...too busy.
I'm not calling for a Phil Woods copy job but something more melodic would be beter, imo.
Or, make it a different instrument so there's less temptation to compare.
Date: Mon, August 17, 2009, 22:12:23 ET
Posted by: Speaking of, Horns
How do you streamline a trombone players car?
Take the Dominos Pizza sign off the top.
Argh Argh...
Date: Mon, August 17, 2009, 19:55:58 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Lisa G:
RE: "And we all know what Becker and Fagen thought of trombones back then." NOT what Fagen thought of 'bones (remember one was a featured solo on Fagen's "Teahouse On The Tracks"???)Lisash. Becker didn't like the 'bones.
Becker also doesn't like french horns - fuck him - what does he know?
Date: Mon, August 17, 2009, 19:44:53 ET
Posted by: tony, new jersey
Lisa.. i am in manahawkin by LBI. we are almost neighbors. thanks for your response to my post. i saw the fagen solo concert at the borgata too. i also saw the michael mcdonald with SD show at Trump a couple years ago. but i loved the Beacon last week. it was a rock n roll concert with the music that has no equal in my life. i stood and danced and sang along to My Old School. hooped and hollered all night. great venue to see them. i am going back to NYC again if they tour next year. i had nose bleed seats at madison square garden in the mid 90's. that was a great night too.
Date: Mon, August 17, 2009, 17:16:59 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY
<<<Speaking of Fagen's voice, is there anyone, anywhere, who sounds at all like him? I can't think of anyone.>>>
Phil Lynott of Thin Lizzy sounded like vintage Fagen, IMO.
Date: Mon, August 17, 2009, 15:38:11 ET
Posted by: a, b, c
Lois Griffin.
Date: Mon, August 17, 2009, 15:34:48 ET
Posted by: That voice...,
Speaking of Fagen's voice, is there anyone, anywhere, who sounds at all like him? I can't think of anyone.
Date: Mon, August 17, 2009, 15:25:41 ET
Posted by: LisaG, Deconstructing Wu
"It's funny that there have been no Boston versions put up for public consumption, and that the NY versions are marred by the effects of DF's cold. It kind of perpetuates Wu as a song of mythical proportions, no?"
Here, here...ForwardGirl. Mythical, perhaps, but I think you hit the nail on the proverbial noggin in offering that Fagen was not in great voice, yet we have nothing to go by from any other videos of Wu this tour.
But further, Hutch touched on something important. He mentioned that Fagen once said Wu would contribute to a lack of "flow" with the rest of the show. But a rose by any other name... It's the arrangement. The current glossy scoring which has been status quo in the touring era of SD fills the stage with characters who would have virtually nothing to do during Wu if it was played as recorded. I don't recall bari sax or trumpet on that track. And we all know what Becker and Fagen thought of trombones back then. Granted, horns were in and out of the studio during that era of recording for them. But the crux of Wu is that there need be no horn section. Yet, they have one on tour. Problem.
Arrange Wu for horns or tweak it as Rajah suggests? Perhaps it would be a bit unauthentic. There's also a simplicity in the sentiment of the original recording that does not, IMO, need dressing up with a wall of horn section or some funky re-harmed version of the chorus. So in order to modernize it for the "now" crowd, they would have to bastardize the song and take away its very heart and soul OR they could just leave it to the rhythm section with Wesikopf. That leads me to...yes...the magic of the original rhythm section cannot be duplicated, as Doc Mu iterated.
And finally, the background vocals on the original treatment were Fagen at his snarly best--you aren't going to get that from the current girl choir. No way. No how. You couldn't get that from Jeff Young or even Mike McDonald. The Fagen layers are so much a part of the song, and sadly, we aren't going to see a chorus of his clones any time soon.
"I typically find the clips posted to Youtube or other sites, to be interesting, but totally unrepresentative of how the song sounded in person. With very few exceptions the recordings are made with small cameras with very limited sound capabilities.
There are some decent recordings from some SD shows in past years, but every Wu clip I have heard is far too poor, from a sound perspective, to make any sort of evaluation of the song, or the performance"
That's my take as well, Dean. Overall, I'm tickled pink they honored us with Wu in NY that first request night, especially with Fagen's voice being in the can. I thought the performance was heartfelt and completely sincere. You aren't going to get that vibe from a recording made in the audience, so before anyone has a comment from videos, I can honestly say...you hadda be there.
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Ole--Nice to see you in blue. Thanks for the skinny on Atlanta to you and DeaconBlues16. I think Fagen did the same lyric "interpretation" in Peg at the first request show.
angel--coming your way...
NMN--not much playing since band is on indefinite hiatus. Me? Grad school while still teaching. Almost had a jazz thing going last summer, but got really busy with philosophy of all kinds.
Date: Mon, August 17, 2009, 09:57:08 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
Some interesting banter going on here. To me, the fact that they included Dr. Wu on the request set list tells me that there was desire on DF and WB's part to play the thing in the first place, regardless of whatever history there may be with that tune. I can't imagine those two grudgingly including a song they just didn't want to play, simply to placate the fans, then perform it half-heartedly.
There's something to be said for self-fulfilling prophecy. If you watch the vids, having already decided in your mind what DF is thinking about singing the tune, you're going to come away with a totally different experience than if you're simply happy to be hearing it at all. This ain't any new-age bullshit, just experience as a musician, teacher and listener of many years.
Having said all that, the passion for the music on this board is a pretty awesome thing. It's been a fun read, and now I'll go back to semi-lurk mode.
Scott
Date: Mon, August 17, 2009, 08:30:56 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
Yeah, there's a chance DF didn't have the breath for Dr. Wu, but I wouldn't want to go away thinking that based on the youtube clips.
Passion can overcome some of those limitations, certainly when the notes are easily within his range.
Date: Mon, August 17, 2009, 06:16:10 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Well said, Brutus, spoken from the heart, I couldn't agree more.
Dean, of course I'd also give greater credence to someone who heard Dr. Wu live but ya know these UTube clips, as inferior as they are, do give you a sense of what went on, how centered the band was on a certain song, what they did to rearrange it, tweek it. They've done nothing with Dr. Wu. It needs reworking, it's a great song but if they don't hold it in the same esteem that we all seem to, what can you do?
Woodman, that article raises the hackles on my...well, wherever the fuck hackles are raised, I dunno, but it pisses me off.
Yes, they finally play it and now I'm bitching about it, ungrateful, I realize, but this Steely Dan has taught me over the years to accept nothing but the very best and finest effort so forgive me but I feel a little indifferent to this Dr. Wu as played. Maybe it's because they feel that same way too.
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 22:24:18 ET
Posted by: In response to, A&W, USA
Absolutely excellent :)
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 19:39:06 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl, bored @ home
http://cgi.ebay.com/WALTER-BECKER-STEELY-DAN-NEW-POSTER-PRINT_W0QQitemZ270436731534QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef7490a8e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
OK, this photo is just begging for a witty caption...anyone?
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 18:43:26 ET
Posted by: hey zeus, i carry the proper papers
submitted to morons at chez 106:
you clowns may as well just play polka hits of the 50's!!
<<steely dan - never been known as a band with devilish humour>> ???
are you fukking kidding me?
do you have a 3rd grade education? have you heard their songs?? are you married to sarah palin?
devilish humor (correct spelling) is their CLAIM TO FAME!
please feel free to admit stoopidity at : www.dandom.com.
hey zeus
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 17:59:20 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour
Wow, Woodman. I don't think I have read something as ridiculous as "Steely Dan have never really been known as a band with a devilish sense of humour", in a long time. That really demonstrates a total lack of understanding the Dan.
And, for whoever asked, if the the opening act is Sam Yahel, figure about 35 minutes, or so. At least that's what I remember.
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 17:05:57 ET
Posted by: A&W, USA
"Does anyone know how long the opening act is ?"
No clue. But you'd think he'd have to meet some kinda requirement to open for a group called Steely Dan.
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 16:53:06 ET
Posted by: Nadir, out of the woods
Re: woodman gripes. Very sad to see your radio station justifying the final show at the Beacon run in the way they did. Not having a clue - the Gaucho show was only last because it was postponed from an earlier -2nd scheduled- "Rent Party: Play the Works" gig.
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 16:48:56 ET
Posted by: Tom Hayes, San Diego, Ca
I think we should we write a Steely Dan musical for broadway or TV.
As a board, can write a script for a Steely Dan musical, in the "tradition" of Mama Mia!, Across the Universe, or the 70's movie Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
Think Mathew Broderick as Don and Nathan Lane as Walter.
Songs and settings that used could be
Opening: Broadway type vamp. Song: Reelin' in the years
Someone meets a woman name Josie. Song: Josie
Someone Chases the Dragon and becomes a zombie : Song: Time Out of Mind
Someone is high at has confrontation with the other at Rudy's: Song: Black Cow
Someone decides to get clean: Song Dr Wu
Rodatrip to LA : Song: Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More
Someone joins a secret cult: Song: The Fez
Someone meets a mysterious Spanish Stranger. Song: Gaucho
Someone works at Mr Chows and meets a Hollywood producer: Glamour Profession
End Sing Along: Happy version of My Old School
Who's up for it??
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 15:39:13 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
So, I posted the setlist for the Atlanta show, but I didn't have a chance to make any comments. I'll make some comments now.
Overall, it was a great show, but that's the norm as far as Steely Dan shows are concerned, in my opinion.
I've been maintaing a list of all of the setlists from this tour so far. I felt that this particular concert would be interesting as far as what they would play because it their 2nd show after their Beacon Run, and their second non "special-setlist" show since Europe, excluding the two short Casino shows which were pretty much "Beacon Lite." But I also figured that it would have to be pretty similar to the Memphis set (which it was), so I purposely put myself in the position to not see that set by not looking at this website over the past couple of days. Therefore, the overall set was a complete "surprise" to me.
That being said, the biggest surprise of the night was obviously Any Major Dude Will Tell You, and it was really well-performed.
My favorites were Black Cow (never heard live in-person before), Black Friday (have been a fan of this version since I heard it last year), Any Major Dude Will Tell You, both RITYs, and Babylon Sisters. There wasn't really a low-light in the set for me.
Biggest disappointment was that the tv screens weren't working. I was fairly far back and didn't have binoculars. But nothing too bad; it's the sound that counts.
Rained a little bit but not too bothersome.
I really liked hearing two versions of Reelin' in the Years. That's just cool to me. If they're going to sacrifice songs for the "deeper cuts," I would rather them sacrifice Hey Nineteen, Josie, and Peg, but obviously, that's not going to happen.
As far as I remember, Donald only made one major mistake on the lyrics. Said "dream come true" twice on Peg instead of "Big Debut." Not a big deal at all...
This was only my 4th show to see Steely Dan. I only say "only" because most posters here have seen them a lot more, but I feel incredibly lucky to have seen them that many times.
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 15:38:20 ET
Posted by: Woodman, The Sidelines for waaay toooo long
A GRIEVOUS CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED AND I CANNOT REMAIN SILENT ANYMORE
The radio station - Chez 106 - apparently my "home" of Classic Rock. (A quick visit to their homepage will give you some insight regarding this claim - the background on the page is nothing more then a collage of AC/DC pictures)
The link - http://www.chez106.com/more.jsp?content=20090814_060626_5832
The excerpt -
"Steely Dan have never really been known as a band with a devilish sense of humour. But on Wednesday night, they did something...well...kinda funny. In the liner notes for the reissue of their 1980 album Gaucho, Donald Fagen and Walter Becker wrote “It can truly be said that never before or since in the sorry annals of pop music has so much been expended by so few for so long in the service of so little — or something like that.” The album is considered by most Steely Dan fans (and by the band itself) to be pretty close to the nadir of their musical careers. Which is why it tongue a couple of tongues in cheeks and a well-placed sense of irony for Steely Dan to close out their long stand at New York's Beacon Theatre by playing Gaucho in its entirety. The band have been there since July, playing albums such as Aja and Royal Scam."
First sign that this idiot shouldn't be doing what they are doing, then compounding the audacity by publishing it to the world is; "never really known as a band with devilish humour". HUH? They won a Grammy for a CD who's hit was based on incest - how much more "devilish" can you get? Considering this barf bag is writing about Gaucho - well let's give "Time Out Of Mind" a listen for signs of devilish humour shall we? By-the-by - Gaucho won a Grammy as well. "The album is considered by (us and ) the band as the nadir of their musical careers." According to Webster;Nadir = lowest point. Hmmmmm - more signs that this article should not be made available to the general public, let alone see the light of day residing in the bottom of a trash bin. If the "ahem" author is thinking about the relationship between Walter + Donald, then I would agree - but the subject is about the music on Gaucho, not the experience of making it. Quick one; Hands up who thinks Gaucho is the nadir? Ya, didn't think so. And we call ourselves fans - Sheesh. "Well-placed sense of irony for Steely Dan to close out their long stand.....by playing Gaucho in it's entirety." Would it be too much to ask to get a fact-checker to even take a look at the Steely Dan web site before embarrassing themselves with this drool? Aren't these shows called "Classic Album nights" ? Well if the nadir is the lowest, then I suppose our idols don't have a clear definition of what a "Classic" is. Ironic, considering they have mastered the art of creating "Classics" over and over again.
Blue - in a perfect world - this article would be viewed as further evidence of factions of the general public "not getting it". Yet, this is spewed by a radio station who claims to be the "home of classic rock". How baseless can a claim like that be when it is quite obvious they wouldn't know a classic even if it bit them in their "prickly pears". Maybe I am bitter over the fact that my dream concert of Larry playing with the boys will be missed. Or bitter because I can't see Scam played in it's entirety. OR MAYBE I AM COMPLETELY ENVIOUS FOR MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO GET TO SEE THIS (ya, I am talking about you Fife...tee hee). Regardless, the fact this article made it to Joe-Public with no effort whatsoever, has this listener's radio buttons re-programmed.
Oh and by the way - the "home of classic rock" plays either Rikki or Reelin. These are the only 2 songs they play. And you wonder why downloading and mp3 players are so popular eh?
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 14:46:40 ET
Posted by: David, Malibu
Does anyone know how long the opening act is ?
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 14:28:36 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
I typically find the clips posted to Youtube or other sites, to be interesting, but totally unrepresentative of how the song sounded in person. With very few exceptions the recordings are made with small cameras with very limited sound capabilities.
There are some decent recordings from some SD shows in past years, but every Wu clip I have heard is far too poor, from a sound perspective, to make any sort of evaluation of the song, or the performance.
I'll take the word of concert attendees over what I hear on a poor quality clip, or the musings of someone who has only heard clips on the internet, every time.
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 13:49:56 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
Can anyone else from the 7/25 Boston show confirm that the Wu performances that have been posted online are not representative of what we heard that night? I was sitting right in front of DF, and though he fumbled a lyric early on, he sang the song well.
It's funny that there have been no Boston versions put up for public consumption, and that the NY versions are marred by the effects of DF's cold. It kind of perpetuates Wu as a song of mythical proportions, no?
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 13:29:34 ET
Posted by: waaaah, waaaah, crib - needing a diaper change
They finally play that stupid song and you're still not happy.
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 13:27:32 ET
Posted by: FogeyDom, This ain't no Blogger
Hey! They erased my comment from the Rolling Stone Gaucho review! Rolling Stone is disgusting to me anyway in its current form, but to post a review on their online version with the spelling 'fagan' throughout is unacceptable. They fixed the mistake and erased me. I'm sure the misspelling was George Bush's fault, as is everything else in the universe according to RS.
My comment asked if RS didn't have the cachet to get the good interns anymore, the ones who can actually spellcheck/proofread. Also I had issue with the word 'wretched' being used as a verb, perhaps he meant 'wrenched'? But that one's still there.
Just another day in crankyville...
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 12:44:10 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Greetings WormTom/ Ive been to Pine Knob/DTE Energy theatre many times;twice to see the Dan but my son has been to the soundboard and tells me the sound is state of the art and he is a musician. Great memories of Pine Knob/ The Dan & bad ones Getting left at a Dylan show because I was whacked; that was my fault back in my younger days. Lets hope for a good show and I will buy you a beer if I run into you [ I will have a Steely Jack of Speed shirt on' hell Ill buy you two; I might need a ride home!!
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 11:11:14 ET
Posted by: wormtom, nola
Ole
as a matter of fact - detroit show - yes
just bought general admission
look forward to catching up with you and perma
last time was on NOLA soil if I recall
my parents live in Central Mi
why not pine knob (DTE) which is a major dan shrine
most of Alive in America was recorded from there
dr wu - the subtle emotional element is what makes that song
haven't heard any live recordings (send them my way please)
but if that isn't there it's just not the same song imho
they certainly have the emotional element in some songs played
bad sneakers, aja, black cow
yes - playing reeling twice in a night is madness, also only 1 encore
glad to see them varying it up - a few different thrown in for atlanta
hope the Detroit gig lives up to an end of tour deep cut fiasco
really like to hear Royal Scam, Deacon, Dr Wu
and lay off the overplayed and dumbed down hits
northern cheers from the southern topsoil
wormtom
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 10:30:05 ET
Posted by: Ted, Turner
I see they played RITY twice in Memphis the night before so that will likely be du rigour for the rest of the one-night shows.
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 10:11:31 ET
Posted by: Ted, Turner
Anyone else agree that they hit a new low last night by playing the same tune twice (instead of opting for a deeper cut).
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 09:41:21 ET
Posted by: iug, ihg
ANY MAJOR DUDE!?
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 07:45:30 ET
Posted by: Hutch, oops
Meant to say the Randall solo on RITY.
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 07:44:08 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
DF's heart isn't into singing "Wu" now because those lyrics are painful - whether or not SD lived through some or most of those experiences depicted. Also they are ironically virtually meaningless to him and/or WB at this stage in their lives. The lyrics smack of some pretentiousness - how ingenuous do you think DF/WB were w/ their OWN emotions when they wrote/recorded that song? Make no mistake - no matter how smart they were/are -YOU CAN ONLY MAINTAIN A HIGH DEGREE OF SUPERCILIOUSNESS AND DEVIOUSNESS BEFORE YOU (THEY) IRONICALLY CRASHED(DF: DEPRESSION/ANXIETY) AND BURNED(WB: HARD DOPE).
You can tell from the initial live rendering of "WU" that DF didn't want to do it.
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 07:37:29 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Rajah - More than that, it seems to me that the comment Don made a couple of years ago regarding people holding up "play Wu" signs is indeed valid. Somehow the song really doesn't flow with the rest of the show. Don't get me wrong... I love the song and would love to hear it live but, as you say, if their hearts aren't really into it then it won't come off with the feeling that it needs.
Another thing, at least for me, is that it is one of a small handful of Dan songs that require certain sections to be played "like the record" and in this case I would say that the sax solo is that part. Now I know that no pro sax player wants to recreate a solo exactly but in this case it's the real highlight of the song. DTMA wouldn't sound right if Jon didn't play that intro like the Carlton solo. And RITY ('72) wouldn't sound right if the Graydon intro isn't played like the original.
Just my opinion and nothing more.
Still jonesin' for more studio stuff.
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 07:22:38 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
my dear SS, it's not that he can't hit a G, it's that he can't sustain a G at the end of a verse like, "just when I spent the last piaster I could bow-oo-rrow." He's got no gas left in the car. And then when he gets to, "but imagine my surprise when I saw you..." well, it just ain't happenin'. Surely you can hear this my friend. I'm not trying to be mean-spirited here...
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 07:21:12 ET
Posted by: Lars , Kassel, Germany
Hi! I´m in bad condition. I am listening to the Dan nonstop. No other music can do for me, it all sucks! Could you please help me? I need music in the "style" of Steely Dan. Something that sounds like "Countdown" and something that sounds like "2vn" and something in between. Please help me, I´m desperated!
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 01:05:16 ET
Posted by: oleander, post-lanta
Hot hot hot! The Chastain Park show in Hotlanta, that is. Deacon, thanx for posting the setlist--was that you up there with the sign??
Highlights: Mr. Fagen positively...peppy, and sporting that Dave Brubeck haircut....Mr. Becker cracklin', especially wowed on "Josie" solo. Now look, I think "Daddy" was made for him to sing.
More solo time from Jim Beard than when I saw them in Durham....so focused and subtle....Also heard more from Keith Carlock, again doing things I swear I've never heard before, but too fast for me to be sure.
Horn section scintillating, and dollops of solo time for Roger Rosenberg on bari.... I really like having 3 backup singers in "the Danettes."
I actually loved hearing RITY both ways, and Mr. Fagen just nailed the orig version in attitude and velocity. Jon Herington opened the throttle, and though I was at Le Bar Bat to hear Elliott Randall do the inimitable solo, by golly Mr. H made his incendiary mark.
Good crowd despite the 250% humidity and periodic rain.
...hey wormy, Motor City? you in?
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 00:44:48 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
I don't know about DF not being 'able' to sing Dr. Wu.
Nothing in the melody line goes beyond a G in the whole song.
Unless they've started dropping songs down, I would think he's going to get to a G and beyond on a lot of songs over the course of an evening.
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 00:32:28 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, ( )
*posting with my Blackberry (hence screwups here) : clarifying the soon to be poster vids were from the 5 shows I attended this run (no need to post "Hey (19) the band was there 8 nights"). I hope to upload mucho stuff for everyone: something to do before the next set of special shows.. .(thanks for posting Atlanta setlist)
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 00:29:54 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Raj: If you say you are missing the interaction between Porcaro, Rainey, and Omartian, I agree...but who doesn't. To get the true flavor, once has to refer to the alt take in the outtakes raw, but undefiled by the noise reduction fiasco.
This is super-fine in a big band paradigm, although Carlock's a little stiff...
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 00:19:50 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, Wuville, USA
I've (finally) been able to upload the first of all 3 NYC Dr.Wu videos I took. The others, along with some "nuggets" from the 5 Beacon shows will be up...eventually. Computer (wi-fi cutting off with 90% uploaded etc) issues along with 15 hour+ work days (ate my Gaucho ticket) blah blah blah "We don't care-where are the videos?!" Ok Ok The first Wu from August 1 can be found via www.youtube.com/kzdiamond...of course my connection was/is lost now (did not edit title/notes/dates etc). Click on SEE ALL VIDEOS and you should (Should being the operative word here) find it.(Feel free to post direct link here & add comments there i.e. date= 08/01/09 WARNING:WARNING: This unlike others/others that say it is when in fact it isn't IS the FULL, COMPLETE, NO HOLDS BARRED, NO MISSED BEATS (I believe the general theme here is ...). DR WU. ENJOY!!
Date: Sun, August 16, 2009, 00:18:19 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Atlanta, GA 8-15-2009 Setlist
- Teenie's Blues
1. Reelin' in the Years Club Mix (2009)
2. Time Out of Mind
3. Green Earrings
4. Bad Sneakers
5. Black Friday
6. Aja
7. Black Cow
8. Hey Nineteen
9. Show Biz Kids
10. Dirty Work
11. Babylon Sisters
12. Do It Again
13. Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More
14. Any Major Dude Will Tell You
15. Love is Like An Itchin' in My Heart/Band Intros
16. FM
17. Peg
18. Josie
19. Kid Charlemagne
Encore
20. Reelin' in the Years Dry and Heavy (1972)
Last Tango in Paris
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 23:22:25 ET
Posted by: wormtom, nola
lurker ray - I picked memphis and flori - bama because of proximity to New Orleans
was tempted but didn't bite on the special shows in Chi Boston La and NYC
last tour I did NOLA, Atlanta and Portsmouth
(great venue on a harbor)
may make the Pine Knob final in Detroit
not sure
was hoping they would have played more rare stuff
but any night with Black Cow and Home At Last is okay by me
Major Dude was a real revelation
but enough with two reelings and do it again
tickets were $62.50 but I paid an ebay ticket service that locked up most of the first few rows around $220 for two great seats - not bad by big city standards
but my friends bailed on me, one had a gig, another tied up at work and I had to leave his ass
why is a last minute flight from nola to memphis $750 minimum?
hung out at STAX today (not that other studio)
- Otis was such a tragedy just as he was taking off
always loved Booker T and the MGs backing
they could play a soul groove on anything
cool to see their instruments and the recording consoles
bought a disc of the MGs doing abbey road raw instrumental - pretty cool
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 21:59:41 ET
Posted by: The URL is self describing, in
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/08/13/steely-dan-wrap-beacon-theatre-stand-with-gaucho-gig/
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 21:47:41 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Well, yes, the thrill of live performance...
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 21:39:41 ET
Posted by: Dave,
Well for starters, when I put Katy Lied on and listened to Dr Wu, I couldn't see Donald, Walter nor the band. But I will admit, when I lit up, the smell of chiba-chiba smelled just like The Beacon.
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 21:34:36 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Henrod, I'm not gonna argue with you or your aural experience, all I can do is posit my own from these clips that I hear from thousands of miles away and from my own poor analysis. I urge you to listen to Dr. Wu on record, I ask you to tell us your experience of the Dr. Wu you heard live, tell us the difference...
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 21:25:58 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
Rajah,
Hmm... having been there in person, I'm gonna disagree with your entire theory on Dr. Wu. It kicked as much ass as every other song they played.
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 20:16:19 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Lookie here now I've heard a few takes of Dr. Wu from recent weeks and they're just not cutting it. The arrangement is slap-dash, there is no arrangement, it's...it's just like a sound check, Donald isn't into it, they're KILLING the laconic soul of that song. This song is all feel and nuance. The piano is buried, Hutch is right as usual in his musical commentary, Donald can't sing up there anymore at the end of the strophe, this thing is a mess...
Great to hear it but this is what you get when you force an artist like Don to do something he really doesn't want to. It's half-assed.
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 18:14:58 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, on the couch watchin "6 Feet Under"
there is a great scene on a "6 Feet Under" episode. Second season when Brenda and her friend walk into a swingers party, "Hey 19" is playing. does life get any better than that??? Episode 10 "The Secret"
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 17:14:47 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks for the MUDD report & setlist
worm. Man, for a guy who could only
go to 2 Non-Major-Market shows this
year, wow, you know how to pick 'em!
Bamma & Mudd Island. So great that
you got to hear BOTH versions of
"Reeling", "AMD" & "Bad Sneakers".
I bet many of the folks who went
to Foxwoods or Borgata would have
killed for that set list last night.
Stay away from shorter casino shows
I guess. Wasn't it also the "bargain"
of the tour last night? All that for
$65 bucks? And they want $200+ bucks
at the Palms Casino. No thanks.
So nice to finally see "Bad Sneakers".
I really thought it would have been
a staple in NYC. Go figure.
Maybe the "change of scenery" is
boding well for things to come,
like a return of "HATWW" perhaps.
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 15:04:26 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Regarding deep cuts/ I am hoping as a ticket holder for the closer in Motown that our boys pull out all the stops to end the tour. Would love to hear western world /Rikki/ the orig Reelin and WU WU WU!!!!! And while I am dreaming; how about Mr Larry Carleton tagging along for the final show. Prob next year if there is no tour instead of bitching we will all be jonesin for Peg and Rikki. I would prob pay to watch Don and Walt play a whole set w/ Fluglehorn and Melodica and come away convinced that I just saw the best show available. Beats the hell out of American Idol/ Jonas Bros and all the shit that passes for talent these days. Anymore the 'Artists' dont even understand the music or the instruments they profess to love. If nothing else Steely Dan has always been about the music' Well trained' often opinionated' killer musicians with a vision in their heads of what a song should come to be and they took us along for the best rides of our lives because as DanFans we get it. Thanx Don and Walt' without the great songs we would all be without the tunes in our dreams that we would not be able to put a finger on' it would be just out of reach. Now' ON WITH THE SHOW' THE GREAT ONE/ MR PRETTY ONE THE ONE THE ONLY MR' STEVIE DAN!!!!!
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 15:02:20 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Perhaps,
I saw SD in St Augustine, on this tour. $97, 6th row center seats.
I'd say that's quite a bit less than the major markets.
Let's Get Lost, a documentary about Chet Baker is starting right now (3PM Eastern) on SUNDw (I guess that's Sundance Channel west).
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 13:00:21 ET
Posted by: Per, haps
Perhaps D & W could see fit, then, to charge less than "major market" prices in the minor markets if there is to be a calculated absence of "deep" cuts ("don't seem right, I've been strung-out here all night, I'd been waiting for that taste you said you'd bring to me").
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 12:34:20 ET
Posted by: Just another skurvy brother, cafe d'escargot
Not to be rude, but instead of complaining, get ye to a major metro market show. You might have a great f*cking time, hear some tunes you never thought you would hear live and make some new friends!
Be born again, my friends.
Won't you sign in stranger.
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 11:45:56 ET
Posted by: mr belzoni, funway west
saw steely in ac last week, great show, but same old/same old,, just wondering if they are playng deeper tracks on request nite etx,, why not incorporate dr wu, rikki, 3rd world my rival etc into all of the shows since they are rehearsed,, love the dan,,,but boy they need to expand the setlist,,dare i say boring????????? better term yet would be predictable,, too predictable
my fav moment ever was one year opened with the boston rag--never to be heard again,,, and i must wonder why not
respectfuly mr belzoni
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 10:25:54 ET
Posted by: Clair, -ification
So of the 10 deep cuts that were played this tour, here's what was(n't) played in Memphis:
Sign in Stranger - NOT PLAYED
Gaucho - NOT PLAYED
Haitian Divorce - NOT PLAYED
Rikki - NOT PLAYED
Dr. Wu - NOT PLAYED
Everything You Did - NOT PLAYED
My Rival - NOT PLAYED
Third World Man - NOT PLAYED
Will be played on every remaining date:
Reelin' 72 version
So they did play:
Any Major Dude
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 06:48:40 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Name, Not where you are
Scott (henrod),
Nice clips. First time I've ever heard any piece of My Rival live.
I'd be interested in full versions. How does one email you. I saw no obvious way to do so on your site.
Very generous of you, BTW.
To anyone who has posted complaining that there simply have not been enough deep cuts or rarely played tunes added to this tour on a... ahem... night by night basis, I agree. That said, if you take an overall tally, here's what I came up with:
Sign in Stranger (not played since the 94 tour)
Gaucho (DF singing)
Haitian Divorce (DF singing)
Rikki (not played since the 96 tour) - 09 arranged more like the original)
Any Major Dude (ditto)
Dr. Wu (never played before)
Everything You Did (08 / 09)
Reelin' 72 version
My Rival (never played before)
Third World Man (I hadn't seen this one since Roseland 95, though they did play it once or twice on the 06 tour, I believe)
To have seen all of these tunes, one would have had to pay to see 3 different shows. That's alot to expect, ticket prices being what they are. It is just too bad they chose to not play Western World or Gold Teeth. I was really hoping to see those tunes played.
That Rent Party teaser show with the footage of Western World made me very excited for the tour. Having said all this, the Boston and NYC shows I saw were tremendous. Boston was especially cool because they played "Dirty Water" just for Boston. That may have been one of the coolest things they've ever done, covering a rather innocuous classic "scumbag rock" song for some of their most energetic fans.
I wondered if they were going to cover some quintessential NYC song for the Beacon shows. What one would it have been ? Dirty Boulevard by Lou Reed ? NY, NY by ole Blue Eyes ? The Heart of Rock and Roll by Huey Lewis ? (I know, that's a multi-city tune).
Which one ? I invite you fellow musicians and nerds to speculate.
This tour showed me for a second time that Boston audiences give more back to the stage. Energy is constant throughout the show and the crowds were rewarded for their love.
Beast
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 01:17:41 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Yeah. What Tom said. And then some.
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 00:51:52 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
Larry Carlton plays 4 shows at the posh Razz room in SF this weekend, for anyone in the bay area.
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 00:51:32 ET
Posted by: wormtom, stuck inside of memphis with those mobile blues again
drove up from NOLA today
friend who I dragged all over Peru last week bailed
so other friend got tied up at work
sold a 2nd row ticket at face outside the monarail
small venue on mud island in mississippi river with nice view of city
the stage is huge
my second row seat is more like a 6-8th but the first row doesn't extend in front of it!!!
I on walter side 3 in from the isle
great view of whole band even Freddy
(we had 1st row in front of Donald in Portsmith last tour and could see freddy - and I'm a bass player damn it!)
view was perfect - the girls were facing directly towards us
even after all the raven haired goddesses in peru
having Carolyn look your way all night is quite nice
she is looking even better these days - ode to motherhood
and I love her husband's album - that vibe player rocks
we had a nice surprise
the guitarist for Sam's opening wasn't there so Weiskopf and Leonhart played the whole set with the duo - real tasty
the night wasn't too hot un-like the Alabama show we saw in June
bugs were flying everywhere in the lights
didn't recognize the funky slow reeling till mid verse walt solo
Time ouT rocked - those horns damn
Green Earings it usual smoke JH solo donald hammond solo!
Bad Sneekers was on although Walt varied the solo up a bit
Black Friday started with those ominous chords Herrington shined
Aja - what can I say Weiskopf locking with Carlock - wow
don't like donald's drawn out "so they say" but his voice is perfect all night!
Black Cow - good they are varying it up one of my faves
Jim Beard had a nice intro
the band is really tight tonight
Hey 19 goes over the top
Walt paraphrased You take the gondola over like TOm Cruise in that famous movie (the firm) with a psychotic blond - only this time it's your girlfriend yada yada yada - hope she is an entomologist yada yada yada various libations that don't work ... Cuervo... nice Jim Pugh solo
Show Biz Kids was that slowed down funk version
Parker's Band - never liked this live but it rips tonight
Babylon Sisters - oh good it's back in the set missed it earlier this year - just fabulous - dreamlike like the lyrics
Michael Leonhart muted trumpet solo has such grace
the obligatory Walt vocal on Daddy - wished they would drop these from the set - it's like a lost erection
the other sax player solos (sorry not nurdy enough to know his name)
Do It Again - is it dumb down time?
Home at Last - damn most of the killer aja tunes
becker and leonhart shine
wow Any major dude - never thought I'd hear it
great electric work by John H (will they play Wu too?)
Love has got an itching goes over big
this ain't motown here - one better baby - home of stax!!!
Peg has a nice intro fireworks are going on downtown behind the band
Jim Beard intro to Josie is great - walter lets loose
Kid Charlemagne - always a crowd pleaser but that means the dream is winding down, damn herrington rips it good as always
he is noticeably sweating but the rest of the band is behind mist machines
crowd half sedate / half dancing
the idiots behind me in row three won't stop dancing - thank god they are behind me
jumped to dead center front row for encore
"we have a request for the original Reeling in the Years"
damn twice in a night when you have all those killer songs
it's done well and get's the crowd going (you don't have to dumb it down with the hits guys)
off to the last tango (damn only one encore)
very nice to see them again and only 6 hours away this time
my friend bailed but it was great!
the tall couple next to me wanted Don't take me alive
I wanted deacon Blues and Dr Wu
but I'll settle for any show with Black Cow, Aja, Home at Last, Major Dude, Babylon and Time OUt of Mind
the band is very tight
hope they High Def film and release a NYC Boston or LA three night stand, I'll buy the bluray in a heartbeat
off to beale street and afew other watering holes
oh behave
sincerly worm tom
Date: Sat, August 15, 2009, 00:19:18 ET
Posted by: wormtom, memphis till dawn
just in from Memphis show
first the set list then commentary
band intro
funky reeling in the years
Time out of Mind
Green Earrings
Bad Sneakers
Black Friday
Aja
Black Cow
Hey 19 w band intros
funked up Show Biz Kids
Parkers Band
Babylon Sisters
Daddy Don't Live In That NYC (walter vocal)
Do It Again
Home At Last
ANY MAJOR DUDE!
Love is an Itching in My Heart
Peg
Josie
Kid Charlemagne
encores
a request (right) original Reelin IN the Years
band outro
Date: Fri, August 14, 2009, 21:22:13 ET
Posted by: All Night Long, worry that bottle
Ok... well SD have done the guitar god LC, bring back Drew Zing for a show.Both Gibson 335 players of high distinction....
Girl Margaret;
Love your posts....I agree the songs really don't matter..its the fact we can absorb the band and players on each tour,listen to new arrangements and musical nuances, even if mostly its the same team.
Here's the Setlist for the next virtual tour; "Monkey Grinder Out Loud Tour 2010"
Order by Artist(to be finalised), dates tbc;
SD
Home at Last
Josie
Caves
FM
Reelin
My Old School
Kid C
Godwhacker
DF
Morph
Brite Nightgown
H Gang
IGY
Tomorrows Girls
Nightfly
WB
Junkie Girl
Book of Liars
Cringemaker
Somebodys Sat Night
Paging Audrey
Circus Money
All suggestions welcome.....call it "create your own tour for all the dreamers in the world."
Date: Fri, August 14, 2009, 18:04:48 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, haven't caught up on all the recent posts
SF Danfan;
The L.A. Danfans are very active--more so than even the NYC Danfan people-- about having a Danfest.
The thing is that they are still pinning down details.
I take it you have signed up for LosAngeles@dandom.com email list?
Here's where you can
http://dandom.com/mailman/listinfo/losangeles
and also here's an archive of the discussion
http://dandom.com/pipermail/losangeles/ <---let's you view in all sorts of ways or...
or by thread...
http://dandom.com/pipermail/losangeles/2009-July/thread.html
and
http://dandom.com/pipermail/losangeles/2009-August/thread.html
Once thing are 100% I will post...or maybe it is already in their emails.
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Fri, August 14, 2009, 17:17:39 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, San Francisco
What is up with the DanFest in LA?
Not a lot of decisions made by the planning group, although given work i can't chime in like those doing so.
Hoops, can you spur them along for a DanFest for al four nights? I'll be at the first two.
Date: Fri, August 14, 2009, 16:48:16 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" He was overwhelmed by the audience responce and seemed to pick up on the energy more so than last night.Coulda sworn he wiped tears from his eyes after that first Wu (NYC) was done. I agree that Daddy was inserted for its NY theme as Boston Rag in Beantown; think that Rag was voted on, Daddy NOT. Still enjoyed it-WB had some great solos throughout it. Liked his Haitian D better, even liked his Gaucho better. Hopefully the non-special shows the rest of this week/tour will have full Aja slipped in as atreat along with DrWu. They.were both crowd pleasers and a major part of why so many fell in love with the band. More thoughts eventually… "
Dr. Wu is DEFINITELY about a college love affair " Back in Annandale " .....................
....or is it ?!
Developing ..................
Skittles Joe ! ™
Date: Fri, August 14, 2009, 15:20:25 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
what is the kid screaming in the last minute of Show Biz Kids?
Date: Fri, August 14, 2009, 14:26:15 ET
Posted by: Cryptic Voices, analog
I used to listen to Gaucho a lot through headphones. In the intro to My Rival, right before the first line is sung, you hear a chipmunk type voice saying (best I can tell) "purple (something)".
In the outro to Show Biz Kids, right before you hear "this is your captain", I always swore I heard Captain Lou Albano ranting.
Monkey in your Soul, after the first note you can hear a voice.
Date: Fri, August 14, 2009, 13:53:47 ET
Posted by: CerpinTaxt, Boston!
The time has come to share some Steely Danomalies. Those moments you notice upon hearing a song for the umpteenth time. For instance:
Brooklyn - Around 3:39, stereo right, you can hear a split second of "Brook" before it cuts out, muted for the guitar solo.
Dr. Wu - 3:43 to the end includes another DF vocal track kind of talking along to the lyrics, ending right as it fades out with a loud, screaming, out of tune Can you heaaar me doctaaa?!
King of the World - 2:31 with all the weird talking includes WB saying "I think my face is on fire."
Anyone else?
Plus one question that I'm sure has been asked before: What exactly is Skunk saying at the end of Only A Fool Would Say That?
Date: Fri, August 14, 2009, 12:39:59 ET
Posted by: enimen, New Yoston
LisaG--so nice to hear from you, you musical prodigy/sharp observer of the contemporary cultural scene you. That Peg thing--what were we thinking? But I just love those chorus harmonies and would suffer virtually any indignity to make a sound like that just once. Hope you're still making and enjoying music.
angel's right--it's also getting me a little wistful thinking about the community here, cutting through all the usual traffic in our lives at surprising angles.
So, for completeness, hello to wormtom too, who I have seen on the boards for years but never met.
Date: Fri, August 14, 2009, 12:04:31 ET
Posted by: wormtom, nola
hey angel and lisa g
how are things?
still remember hanging with you, ole, and steviedan in Raliegh 2000
my first dan show
it was special
and great company
cheers
Date: Fri, August 14, 2009, 11:37:39 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Around
Borgota v. Beacon: Borgota has the best sound, it's no contest. But Beacon has somewhat better audiences. That's true of most casino vs. theater venues. I've been to Borgota twice and Beacon a million times and Borgota always sounded better - actually compared to a lot of places I've been to I think Borgota sounds better!
I know some people will complain about the Dan sets no matter what they play - hell, we finally get Dr. Wu and people are still claiming the sets are recycled. And I'll agree with that to some extent - but I will says this: as long as SD is willing to go out and tour, I'm willing to go out and see them play. I have no expectations that they'll really dig in and do some serious deep cuts (I always laugh when Donald says "We're gonna go back into the deep 70's now" as if they had just finished playing both 2vN and EMG albums straight thru), and if they do something unexpected then it's a treat for me. I consider myself very lucky that I've been able to see and experience as much as I have and with such wonderful people as my fellow Danfans. I'll complain about the fucking audience, but I'll never complain about the Dan. Even if they sing Josie 6 times in a row, throw a bucket of confetti into the crowd, then walk offstage while blowing kazoos to the tune of "Tiptoe Thru The Tulips" (actually I'd pay good money to see that). I understand that some of us who've seen SD more times than we care to think about and just want Don and Walt to throw us a bone (and by bone I mean something off of 2vN) and you're not "really" complaining. I know what you're saying, I totes dig. I'm just saying that I personally will never complain. Bring on the confetti!
Date: Fri, August 14, 2009, 09:33:27 ET
Posted by: steely fan, nj
Borgata's Music Box is actually a much better venue. No temporary chairs or risers and not a bad seat in the place. But the capacity is about one-third that of the Event Center. I wish there was a happy medium between the two.
Date: Fri, August 14, 2009, 09:27:13 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Hey Lisa: Use the email addy above and add Yahoo to it. That will get me.
I have been thinking that it's coming close to a decade since many of us came to Steely Dan boards. Lots of tours and shared memories. My thanks to many for the good times, great music...Jazz and Conversation.
Date: Fri, August 14, 2009, 09:09:38 ET
Posted by: LisaG, 1.5 from AC
tony--I think the acoustics at Borgata are much better. It would think the venue was designed with state-of-the-art sound capabilities, being a newer facility.
Yeah, the atmosphere always leaves a lot to be desired. I always watch to see if the staff is going to be bringing out flaming cherries jubilee--it seems like the "theatre" could easily be a ballroom at any moment. I also do not love the idea of chairs and bleachers. It's not really a "hall." BUT the sound always surprises me.
I have enjoyed every show I've seen there--they've all been SD or Fagen--but I agree that the crowds are incredibly blah. The last time I was there, two women in front of me nearly got in a fight because one was screaming very loudly during the applause. The other one ended up getting security and then finally leaving. Sour puss. :-P
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 23:09:10 ET
Posted by: tony, new jersey
i took my 17 yr old son to ROYAL SCAM on monday. he loved the energy of the beacon, as did i. we saw them at the borgata in the summer of 2008. we both felt the sound quality is better in A.C. but the atmosphere in new york is electric. what a night. if the borgata show didn't have gamblers walking in late because the had complimentary tickets. and very few in attendence standing and dancing in the audience, it would be a better venue. i would say the borgata sounds better, but the beacon was so much more fun to see a steely dan concert. we had a great time in nyc on monday. i am ready for 2010
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 22:17:39 ET
Posted by: LisaG, HATEasternW
Lurker R--The Beacon was just acoustically nightmarish two years ago. The bass was so muddy and the mix, horridly imbalanced. I remember saying something to the sound peeps who were not all that enthused. But last year and this, I actually felt like the sound was well under control. Perhaps it has everything to do with where one sits? Someone mentioned that a while back.
------
HUGE shout-out to some old friends...we've lost touch, but it's good to "see" you all in blue:
Enimen, my favorite tomorrow's boy--I have fond memories of a few crazy lunatics singing Peg out in the rain in April of '01. I still have the vocal score from that crazy day: I had finally seen the WTC view (in the fog, no less) and had my very last merlot. Er, my last few merlots...
angel--I hope all is well with everyone--love to family, and enjoy our boys out there. One of these days, you'll have to come back to NY. Lost your email when my hard drive died, so we'll have to catch up again. :-(
wormy--Don't remember if I ever got a chance to say it, but thank you so much--you're the best. Enjoy Memphis, brother.
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 19:52:58 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks to all involved with the all of the nightly reports from the Beacon. Yeah, I’d have to agree with hoops, the sound at the Beacon has always been “sketchy” at best. I guess even with it’s renovation, “You can’t put lipstick on an acoustic pig”. It’s too bad that Irving A has a hold on that venue. Please come back to Roseland. After all is said and done after the NYC run, Boston still got the best “Internet Request” night as far as “set lists” are concerned. They played a much longer set and better choices. The way it is looking now, the “rigged” Boston voting was the way to go.
Now I could go on about how “lazy” I thought the NYC “Internet Request” nights were. C’mon no “Bad Sneakers”? Really? Didn’t you basically play the same “Internet Request” show on ALL THREE NIGHTS? Or how those shows in Florida & Alabama with “Bad Sneakers” & “HATWW” turned out to be more diverse and pleasing instead of just throwing in “Wu” (which Donald clearly does not want to sing) and “AMD & Rikki” into a “Aja” night and calling it “Internet Request” night. Why aren’t you singing, “The Fez”?
Yeah, I could go on like I have here so far this summer, but I’m not going to. No, I’m giving Donald Fagen a “Free Pass” for the rest of the tour. In the past few years, this man has lost some folks who were very close to him, and it happened to him again this year right after a triumphant run in Boston to open what should have been a glorious and incredibly diverse run at the Beacon. Yet this cat, sucks it up and comes out and plays for us. Amazing. I don’t know many people that can do what Mr. Fagen has done. Perhaps getting out of town and the trip out West will help his mind “take a little vacation”. God knows he surely deserves one.
So come West Don and bring your band and that funny friend of yours who plays that wicked baby blue guitar. And play, “just what you feel” like playing. I am lucky enough to have great seats to all four shows in LA and I now don’t care what you play. Just play. It will be an honor and a privilege to be there.
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 19:28:09 ET
Posted by: enimen, Go Back, Jack
Jack, exact change included tip.
Yes Angel, my life is complete! And in a few days, your turn...
RIP Les Paul...check out this little slice of heaven:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ffdwBUL78
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 18:51:11 ET
Posted by: wormtom, nola route to memphis friday
hoping they spice up memphis with some rarer stuff from the request night
Dr Wu, Deacon Blue, Major Dude
I'll be in that number! round 2 2009
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 18:16:56 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
The video quality on DVD will be better. The website has much smaller files as to not overload my server or take forever to load via the interweb. It will be 1280x720 vs 480x272.
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 17:59:48 ET
Posted by: angel, LA (Buggin')
enimen: Wow, glad you got to a NY show with Carlton! That was the only thing that Boston was missing out on.
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 17:53:45 ET
Posted by: One Question,
Thanks for the offer henrod, would this DVD be better quality than your website or would it be the same .m4v files?
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 17:14:47 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
OK, peeps, last night's video is up. Some of it is a little out of focus - sorry! Point and shoot, low light and being far, far away (LAST row) sometimes makes a camera go out of focus. I did get better at forcing the focus about half way through, so stick it out:
http://web.me.com/henrod/Steely_Dan/Welcome.html
If anyone is interested in a DVD of all my video at its highest quality and pics from the 4 shows, please let me know. I would simply ask that you send a blank DVD-R in a postage-paid return mailer, and I'll send a copy.
Email me if you're interested.
Scott
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 16:25:45 ET
Posted by: Tom Hayes, San Diego, Ca
The Las Vegas show is now selling 2nd level side box seating to the public. They usually hold the boxes for "big spenders", but occasionally they sell them to the general public.
The 200 level boxes are awesome - they have their own private bathrooms, private bar, and different wait staff. Since so few people are sitting up there you can control your concert experience a little more. No one will block your view. No one will crowd up and push you out of your area.
I saw Morrissey play there in 2007 and I had a great experience.
I wish I'd have held out. I'm in the 300 level side box seating, which is further away. Just a FYI if you haven't bought tickets yet.
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 16:05:44 ET
Posted by: Oh God,,
Jack,
Enimen's post was so happy and upbeat and that's all YOU have to comment on. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 15:25:11 ET
Posted by: Jack Benny, In the Breadline
"I had exact change for the bartender as she served me my Jack & soda"
cheapskate
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 14:11:49 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, LP & LC - two of the best
Here's a great pic with Don & Walt getting the TEC Award from Larry Carlton and Les Paul.
http://www.steelydan.com/tec.html
Mark in Boston
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 12:17:12 ET
Posted by: CNN, Breaking News
Rest in Peace Les Paul.
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 11:25:14 ET
Posted by: enimen, bos york
August 12:
I walked up 90 minutes before the show and got row K seats.
I saw Robert Klein in the lobby, telling someone that Fagen asked him to introduce the band but he didn't want to (hmmm...)
I saw Pete Vogel, LadyBayside and GirlMargaret in the lobby--a joyful convergence of legendary Dan fans, indeed
I took in the beautiful refurbished Beacon
I had exact change for the bartender as she served me my Jack & soda
I heard the band kick ass again and again...the horns were especially loose and punchy last night
I saw Carolyn Leonhardt flip the ceremonial vinyl disc as we transitioned from Side A of Gaucho to Side B (a new ritual since Boston)
I saw Larry Carlton play solos in Third World Man, Josie, Kid C and others with nearly superhuman taste, nuance, force, grace and harmonic genius. He is the complete guitarist
I had drinks afterwards with LadyB and her lovely friend, GirlM...and who should walk into the joint but Mr. Larry Carlton. I shook his hand and told him how much I enjoyed his playing. "Thanks buddy," said god.
I could not be happier
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 11:09:29 ET
Posted by: CARveL, weekend at the college of ice cream knowledge
Bring back Cynthia CARLhoun.
CARLo won't suspect.
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 10:25:14 ET
Posted by: Joey,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jqcEkR0rjE
Joey Like !!!!!!!
Nice .
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 10:17:07 ET
Posted by: :-), (-:
I just realized that there have been three Carls on stage at some of these performances... CARLock, CARLton, and CARL Becker. Honorable mention goes to the lovely Ms. CARoLyn Leonhart. (Although I must admit I'm not sure if all four have been on stage together at any one performance since the band has been somewhat flexible in its makeup this tour.)
Anywho... I don't know why, but the thought of multiple Carls amused me just a little.
Now if they'd all drink a lot of Donald's Coke stash they could then harmoniously belch-sing the famous line "Is there gas in the Carl?"
Heh heh... Oops, sorry for the needless frivolity.
This post has been brought to you by Carlsbad Caverns, a big hole that many people like to enter.
;-)
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 09:53:09 ET
Posted by: t. nova,
Gaucho night killed it... Carlock is a DISCO MACHINE. Great, great show. Carlton, wow.
(Note to dude in front of me who checked Facebook every 10 minutes during the show: What? Also: That white screen is blinding in the dark, dickaroo.)
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 09:36:40 ET
Posted by: ws, kb
Recap of Beacon run.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thane-rosenbaum/steely-dan-does-it-again_b_258078.html
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 06:28:18 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Re: That youtube clip of Wu. Maybe they ought to drop the key down a step. Donald sounds like he's really struggling to hit those notes.
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 01:35:55 ET
Posted by: J.R., NY
The band and the crowd were both on fire tonight and Donald's voice is back to perfect. He was in a great mood; even signing some autographs on his way to his car.
Here's some more Wu, from Tuesday night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jqcEkR0rjE
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 01:24:29 ET
Posted by: What a Night!!, !!
This show (particularly the last 5 or 6 songs) may be one of the best Steely Dan shows ever! Certainly in the top 5!!
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 00:58:22 ET
Posted by: Reely Dan, The Windy City
Greetings fellow Dan-o-philes - and happy summer from REELY DAN!
We hope that your summer is proceeding memorably! Many of us have made the jump to warp speed/hyper drive with our collective recent acquisitions of the iPhone (3G-S no less!) - what a defining technology! In the spirit of our new “mobile computers,” we have re-designed the home page of our website to reflect our new thinking! At your leisure, kindly check out www.reelydan.com.
The next REELY DAN gig will take place this Friday evening August 14 at the legendary FitzGerald's Nightclub in Chicago. The band will be paying homage to our heroes of harmony, Mssrs. Becker & Fagen, during 2 bodacious shows, 9:00 PM & 11:00 PM. Additional Info on the website.
In addition to our lovely vocalists known as "The Chi-Town Sisters," on August 14, we will be featuring 2 very special (and well-known) guests with REELY DAN at FitzGerald's. "The Taylor Sisters" will be with us that evening . . . and what a treat it is . . . they are none other than Chicago Blues Queen KOKO TAYLOR'S nieces!! This performance is not to be missed! If you are in town for this upcoming weekend, consider joining us for this terrific evening of music, song, food, drink, laughter, and hanging with good friends!!
We all are so looking forward to the Chicago residency of our beloved Dan. Let's celebrate the coming felicity and have a ball on 8/14!
Cheers,
Reely Dan
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 00:46:59 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Wow. Margaret the Girl meets Henrod the twitterer under the spreading wifi tree. Multiple shows; multiple players; multiple play-by-players. The production of all this is frontline. Thank you all, and a job well done.
Larry Carlton and Gaucho and almost a whole Aja. Sure we say we've heard this one before, but we'll go back, John.
Forty-four hours and change 'til ecstasy. Been listening to that guy playing bass and solo guitar on EMG.
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2009, 00:27:03 ET
Posted by: henrod, LIRR
Glad to be part of the tweet-fest, folks. I'll have video from tonite's show on my site sometime tomorrow.
As great as this show was, it was almost a let-down as a final show. Larry Carlton didn't play much, the song Gaucho seemed to have a false start, and the non-Gaucho tracks were the same I'd heard 3 times previously for the most part.
Having said that, all 4 shows together were the friggin coolest shows I've seen in a damn long time. Exquisite musicianship, killer songs performed nearly flawlessly. Shit, it was just great.
I doubt I'll be seeing any other shows at all this summer. My wife was
very understanding about this... Gotta lay low for a while.
Nite nite.
Scott
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 23:50:41 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Margaret and Henrod,
Excellent stereo tweeting performance.
Hoops, nice mixing job.
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 23:09:56 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
Tasteless, I'll match you whim for whim - Sir Paul is paying her an arm and a leg, so she should end up ahead of the game.
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 23:02:54 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
Argh, I'm so jealous. This is going to be a long summer of jealousy after seeing the Boston shows so early in the tour. Hey, I love the he said/she said tweeting, that was cool! Girl Margaret, I felt the same way about My Rival when I saw them in Boston. :-) Thanks much to you and Henrod for the updates!
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 22:23:51 ET
Posted by: Tasteless,
Is it true that "Peg" is about amputee model Heather Mills?
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 22:18:55 ET
Posted by: Steely Fan, NJ
I was mulling a trip back into the city to see Gaucho tonight. I was there last week for Aja and Scam. What kept me away was that I knew after the album, there would be nothing I haven't heard this past week. They need to draw from tVn more. After the Borgata show and the old stuff sounding...old, I played it on the drive home and it was the best listen I've had of it since 2000.
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 21:14:30 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, haven't caught up on all the recent posts
I think if you have seen SD in 2006, 2007 and 2008, your best bet is to head to one of the two remaining internet request nights in L.A. and/or Chicago. I found the novelty to be a buzz.
Frankly, I'm not sure what to say about the two NYC shows I got to attend. The seats I had sucked. So I was thrilled intellectually about what was happening ("Whoooaaa! Larry Carlton's up there recreating his solo on 'Third World Man'!!!!" or "Wow! I've never heard 'Dr Wu' or 'Major Dude' live--why have they been keeping these from us!" ) but the sound was horrible. So I'm hoping my seats allow for a better sonic experience in Chicago.
Another one from GM just in...gotta post.
Jim
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 20:59:56 ET
Posted by: Night by Night, Groovetime, NY
I hear ya Bikemann. Not worth hitting multiple shows when they don't really mix it up...a shame. A shame about me would be a great pull one of these nights...
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 20:38:53 ET
Posted by: Bikemann, nj
Time to Bitch again (just a little) Ok, In the past each new tour came with two or maybe three new tunes being added to the live show along with all the standards. Now, there are two request nights left. "STEELY DAN PLAYS THE WORKS" is close to over. They have really only added two or three new tunes to the set. About the same as in the past.I know I know, Dr Wu bla bla bla! Any major dude and ok The Fez (without Fagen singing) This is FAR from playing the works.I'm sorry but the request nights are Standard shows with two new additions. They even dropped Western world right at the start! Maybe they will bring that out in LA. Please don't kill me.I still love this band like no other
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 20:24:52 ET
Posted by: Henrod , Row N at the Beacon
I'll be tweeting the set tonite. @henrod. Hopefully it will show up here too.
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 20:10:33 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben , Tall County AR
It's always seemed to me that Blues Beach was sort of out of place in its sound in EMG. For some reason it feels like a Kamakiriad sort of inverse Snowbound thing to my untrained ear and wrist.
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 20:08:12 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, work
Still at work with no end in sight, left balcony row G seat 49 in pocket. It's a nice aisle seat in the 2nd row upstairs- if anybody is in a higher seat up there feel free to move down! I doubt I'll be done before 10...have to settle for the 5 I caught this go-round. Would have loved to see My Rival & The Donald singing Gaucho. I have relatives in Chicago-road trip perhaps?
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 18:40:58 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
Congratulations, SoulMonkey (you lucky bastard!), that should be an awesome time!
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 18:05:35 ET
Posted by: Pollo Tropical Cooler, 138
I always thought it was "no slack in the tension."
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 17:43:49 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
Hmm. I always thought it was 'love her dimensions...slack and retention'
Who says I never learn stuff hanging around here?
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 17:28:34 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky
I am one lucky bastard. I seemed to have stumbled upon great news a few nights ago. I'm checking my email and I notice that I won the Wit Hotel/Chicago Theater SD giveaway. Grand Prize winner indeed. I've got tix to all four Chicago shows, seventh row center. The Wit Hotel has been good enough to throw in five nights in a King Suite (whatever the hell that entails) and promises a great time.
I already had tix to the Sept 4th show on Friday, but now it looks as if I'll be in Chicago for the entire five day stretch. I'm meeting El Supremo and his wife on the 4th. We have seats together and I'll be taking the tickets I won for Friday and giving them to friends from Huntington, Wv. They are driving in just because of the opportunity.
My wife is so exited that she can't sleep. After seeing The Dan soooo many times since 93, I still have the passion. It'll be great to see some of my old friends from years gone by. Woo-hoo, I finally won something.
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 17:27:56 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky
I am one lucky bastard. I seemed to have stumbled upon great news a few nights ago. I'm checking my email and I notice that I won the Wit Hotel/Chicago Theater SD giveaway. Grand Prize winner indeed. I've got tix to all four Chicago shows, seventh row center. The Wit Hotel has been good enough to throw in five nights in a King Suite (whatever the hell that entails) and promises a great time.
I already had tix to the Sept 4th show on Friday, but now it looks as if I'll be in Chicago for the entire five day stretch. I'm meeting El Supremo and his wife on the 4th. We have seats together and I'll be taking the tickets I won for Friday and giving them to friends from Huntington, Wv. They are driving in just because of the opportunity.
My wife is so exited that she can't sleep. After seeing The Dan soooo many times since 93, I still have the passion. It'll be great to see some of my old friends from years gone by. Woo-hoo, I finally won something.
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 15:38:26 ET
Posted by: Mike, NYC
Lyrics,
Many thanks for the correct lyrics during the end of Blues Beach!
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 14:52:11 ET
Posted by: lyrics, blues beach
the end lyrics are:
Load up the mansion
WITH SLACKING INTENTIONS
everyone's tall and tan
yes i wanna be on the sand
WAY SWEETER AND MERRIER
the corn grows tall
having ourselves a ball
THINK TROPICAL COOLER
these are the correct lyrics
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 14:43:50 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
New Rikki and FM from last night's show on youtube ....
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 14:00:28 ET
Posted by: Lady Bayside, CT, soon en route to NYC
I have two seats for tonight's show..Row V, I think. If anyone is interested, email me..I can meet you before the show to hand over tickets. Would rather they go to a fellow Danfan rather than scalpers..they were $172 each, but I would like Best Offer.
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 13:51:54 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
Last night's video is up:
http://web.me.com/henrod/Steely_Dan/Welcome.html
I cut off the last 5-10 seconds of Dirty Work - I thought it was over, but they played another tag and I missed it. Gorgeous arrangements last night - Dirty Work, Rikki, Do it Again - truly awesome arranging.
Enjoy.
PS - I'm going to try to Twitter tonight's set.
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 13:10:23 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Info Man,
The Blues Beach lyrics in question are NOT on Steelydan.com.
Some of the Blues Beach lyrics are there, but not the last little bit Donald sings on the outro of the song. Those are what the poster is asking about
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 12:36:04 ET
Posted by: hoops, countryside, in a weird place, on the quick
Henrod and the like
Thanks so much for the set list.
Just a general heads up...if you can post to the blue, or text, you can do that direct to twitter. I'll set you up. Just contact me before the show so we can make arrangements.
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 12:24:38 ET
Posted by: info man, is in front of you
ALL song lyrics can be found at Steely Dan dot com...Click on subsection "The Works". Links for all album/song lyricss including Blues Beach are there.
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 10:41:49 ET
Posted by: Jack Webb, Santee Alley, Counterfeit Patrol
Frank just pointed out that the folks at "Old Skool" must not be that "Old"! They don't know what "Fine Columbian" is! That made us chuckle.
http://www.usps.com/communications/newsroom/2009/pr09_070.htm
...just the facts
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 09:38:21 ET
Posted by: ws, kb
Memphis fans may be interested in this Steely Dan Giveaway. Two days left.
http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10884119&nav=menu59_7_5
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 09:34:11 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Wormtom and Praguepolo.
Thanks for the Old Skool Holligans tip. Great stuff.
Here are the results from a "steely dan" search in that store. Some other good ones here.
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Old-Skool-Hooligans__W0QQ_sidZ352000044?_nkw=steely+dan&submit=Search&LH_TitleDesc=1
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 09:33:14 ET
Posted by: Newark, Eastern Shore
Hey Mike NYC: Sounds like "the corn grows tall" for that one line in "Blues Beach." I'll try that ending with headphones. Thx, nwk
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 05:05:57 ET
Posted by: Praguepolo, Over there
@worntorn (or wormtorn): I have the Kid C shirt from Old Skool Hooligans as well as the "Caves of Altamira" which turns even more heads. Good stuff:-) I wore them the Amsterdam and Brussels shows this year and was looked upon with envious eyes since the 2009 tour merch was mediocre at best. Thanks Old Skool Hooligans!
http://cgi.ebay.com.my/CAVES-OF-ALTAMIRA-T-SHIRT-STEELY-DAN-XXL_W0QQitemZ190281489762QQihZ009QQcategoryZ42443QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 02:48:44 ET
Posted by: wormtom, nola
if you really want a cool Kid charlemagne shirt from a great company
try this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/KID-CHARLEMAGNE-CHEVY-T-SHIRT-STEELY-DAN_W0QQitemZ200367733400QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMen_s_Clothes?var=&hash=item746a532c89&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177
I always get comments when I wear it
other cool dan related stuff
like a nightfly wjaz shirt
what a setlist from all request night
hopefully they keep playing these songs
memphis baby
yes there's gas in the car
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 00:56:04 ET
Posted by: Mike, NYC
I think this might have been discussed before but I could not find the e-mail. Can anyone tell me if the last few lines in Blues Beach are as follows:
Way sweeter aware (Way sweet in the air?)
Lord of Dimension
No slack in attention
Cargo was tall
And what does any of it mean? Thanks.
Date: Wed, August 12, 2009, 00:16:48 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Hey, Henrod, thanks for the set and site. All were mighty good.
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 23:30:45 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, LIRR track 20
Another entertaining show, another Dr. Wu in the memory. Great crowd again. Overheard at the bar-one (red) wine talking to another "You're aging like a Steely Dan concert".
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 23:16:11 ET
Posted by: tripel, nyc
just got back ...amazing show
saw first Aja night, then last night's Royal Scam ...but think tonight was tops (also going tomorrow!)
think this is the setlist, but may not remember all (compiling below):
Black Friday
Aja
Hey Nineteen
Peg
Dirty Work
FM
Rikki
Home at Last
Dr. Wu
Any Major Dude
Do It Again (drum solo)
Itchin' ...Band intros
Babylon Sisters
Daddy Don't...
Black Cow
Josie
Don't Take Me Alive
Kid Charlemagne
E: Reelin'
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 23:14:46 ET
Posted by: Henrod, LIRR
Encore:
Reeling
damn, another killer show.
Don cursed out an audience member for shouting out song titles during Jim Beard's intro to Josie. Funny shit
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 22:31:14 ET
Posted by: henrod , NY
More:
Babylon Sisters
Daddy Don't...
Black Cow
Josie
Don't Take Me Alive
Kid Charlemagne
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 21:56:46 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
Some more:
Dr. Wu
Any Major Dude
Do It Again (drum solo)
Band intros
shit yeah!!!!
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 21:34:21 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
So far:
Steely Dan 8/11/09
Black Friday
Aja
Hey Nineteen
Peg
Dirty Work
FM
Rikki
Home at Last
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 21:16:35 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
Recently purchased a t-shirt... Maybe people know about this shirt, maybe they don't, but some Dan fans might enjoy...
http://shop.cafepress.com/design/29474058
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 19:20:56 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, #7 train
Heading in for my 5th show on this Beacon run. My 3rd request gig. Due to purchasing tix at the box office, I once again, was not able to vote. It's all been good so far.From the list I would like another Wu, Night by Night and Boston Rag. Had there have been a spot for write-in vote: Kings, Almost Gothic, King of the World. Due to last minute & fully appreciated chance to work tomorrow thru Friday, my rescheduled ticket for the Gaucho show may be forfeited. I won't know how late I'll work till It would be too late to offer it or get a refund. :oping at least to get a few songs in if - can't make the start. Not looking forward to the commute home to Queens and quick/minimal sleep turnaround getting me back to NYC by dawn. Oh well, let me enjoy tonight.
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 19:16:22 ET
Posted by: NYB,
FUCK!
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 17:48:09 ET
Posted by: luke,
Greg _ Jeff Pevar wasn't at the SD show last night. I know because I saw him jamming at the Bitter End last night!
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 17:07:09 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour
David and Henrod,
Thanks for the great links. Good stuff
Margaret thanks for the text/tweet the other night.
And thanks to every one else who posted setlists and reviews.
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 16:10:05 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
My site is being updated now - it may take a little while to post. I've got a bunch of video from last night.
Enjoy:
http://web.me.com/henrod/Steely_Dan/Welcome.html
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 15:50:58 ET
Posted by: ben, dere
ridiculous. i have great relationships with both cros and pat.
now, I AM too much of a gentleman to tell the good folks about you and eddie simon!
peace, love, dark chocolate
SC
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 15:41:09 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Here is Crosby performing Home At Last with Crosby, Pevar & Raymond. Song is incorrectly called "Homie."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUFfKufAFLI
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 15:31:31 ET
Posted by: Of course,
It must have been before Crosby and Pat Meth told you to stay the fuck away from them, Sebastian Ben.
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 15:08:31 ET
Posted by: ben, dere
crosby told me twice to my face at different times - "steely dan is my favorite band - well, besides the beatles."
i think his version of home at last is on the web somewhere - wonderful.
not gonna tell you what we were doing at the time. hooper wouldn't approve.
sebastian cabot
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 14:47:50 ET
Posted by: wormtom, nola
will Dr Wu get played in non request nights?
I am going to the memphis show
a friend backed out
have a 2nd row ticket on walt / herrington side
let me know if interested
Tom
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 14:29:05 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Around
More celebrity sightings from last night:
According to Lady Bayside - Susan Sarandon was sitting in her row (later Fife informed me that she almost walked into her in the ladies room)
Phoebe Snow was at the diner we were at after the show, so I assume she was also at the concert.
Geez, everyone and their cousin went to see the Scam show last night!
Band sounded outstanding last night, the crowd was incredible (famous faces or otherwise), and being upclose to the stage I could tell these guys were really enjoying themselves. They all have such a great chemistry, absolutely fabulous. One for me - Wednesday night's Gaucho - and then that's it for this tour. Unless Steely Dad actually gets me to the midwest!
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 13:44:20 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
It's possible that Crosby and Nash were there in a lobbying effort to overcome Styx for the Chicago stand local-audience-cover-encore honor.
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 13:29:30 ET
Posted by: eddy32, Richardson, TX
my votes for Chicago:
seeing as they are already playing all the songs from Aja, Gaucho and Scam the other three nights in Chicago; for internet request night, my dad and I decided to vote only for songs that weren't on those three LPs. We went to the Ticketmaster web link that was privided by TM when we bought the tickets, we then picked our 20 songs and submitted our vote. I would love for others to follow suit, but I doubt anyone would have the exact same picks as us otherwise.
Bad Sneakers
Black Friday
Bodhisattva
Chain Lightning
Dirty Work
Do It Again
Doctor Wu
FM
My Old School
Night By Night
Parker's Band
Pretzel Logic
Reelin' In The Years (both versions)
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Show Biz Kids
The Boston Rag
The Last Mall
Two Against Nature
Your Gold Teeth
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 13:09:52 ET
Posted by: KDja', da
Crosby? Funny he should say that, considering he told a national audience that he wanted a James Taylor album to beat 'Aja' for the Grammy in 1977.
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 13:04:07 ET
Posted by: David MacFadden-Elliott, Berkeley
Hey Dandom,
One more Steely Dan article to mention and then I'll go dormant for a while. This one is about my dad and I fighting over the vocal vamp on "Show Biz Kids."
http://crawdaddy.wolfgangsvault.com/Article/Steely-Dan-Show-Biz-Kids.html
Best,
David
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 12:21:54 ET
Posted by: Lee, Tampa
Read comments by David Crosby more than once that his favorite album of all time, not just an SD album, is Aja. That's high praise from a music luminary like Crosby!
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 11:33:01 ET
Posted by: pixeleen, sizzlin'
Thanks, Margaret (and Hoops)......
Great celeb-spotting !!
Let's hear it for those "Steely Doc" license plates "-)
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 09:41:35 ET
Posted by: Not There, Q
Were Crosby & Nash acknowledged by Don/Walt or did the Twittererrer just spot them?
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 09:12:38 ET
Posted by: tripel, nyc
great night -- loved the RS chestnuts like Hatian Divorce, Caves and Everything you Did...
going again for Gaucho night for that album and LC, but i fear the nuggets I really want (Wu, Rikki, Bohdi, FM) will be tomorrow! Ah well.. could go broke seeing these guys
Last night I arrived just as WB pulled up in his SUV, then sat in front of B Purdie, and walked out with D Crosby, so a bit of a celeb filled night, such as it was (dont think I'll be blogging on TMZ though...)
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 01:37:39 ET
Posted by: henrod, Green Flower Street
Damn, it was a friggin' guitar-fest tonight! Royal Scam is so guitar-heavy that Jon and Walter really got to let loose. Walter ripped it up much more than on Aja night at the Beacon in July. He usually puts me to sleep, but he ripped it up tonight. And Jon... damn, that guy can PLAY. He was really on fire - Kid Charlemagne, Don't Take Me Alive... there was a whole new energy. Why can't Don sing the right lyrics when he's got 'em right in front of him? That was a little embarrassing.
I'm not sure what to think about Keith Carlock. He plays GREAT, but there's something about the feel... so diff from any other SD Drummer i've seen/heard. He's busy, but so is Dennis Chambers on Alive in America - but busy in a diff way. I may be rambling now.
Hey Nineteen and Third World Man were non-RS highlights for me. Can't wait for Gaucho on Wed!
See y'all tomorrow night at the Beacon.
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 00:44:32 ET
Posted by: dave,
Caught Reelin' on Letterman too. Had Letterman not been a re-run, I would say Dave was headed to the SD show down Broadway afterwards.
Wasn't Paul Schaeffer (sp?) in the audience during one of the Roseland 95 concerts?
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 00:37:45 ET
Posted by: CerpinTaxt, Boston!
In the midst of all this 8/10 show activity, a little post about Letterman! Watching it right now while the gf is sleeping. When they came back from break and Paul Schaffer stopped the band, Letterman thanked Mr. Steely and Mr. Dan. A minute later, Steven Wright walked on to Reelin In The Years.
Just finished his set, the band played Reelin' one more time.
Date: Tues, August 11, 2009, 00:21:40 ET
Posted by: any world i'm welcome to, new jersey
Royal Scam was awesome. My second show in one week for me (was there 8/4 for internet request night).
Happy to hear some new tunes (parker's band, third world man). Thought Donald sounded MUCH better tonight than 8/4.
I also thought the performance of Aja (the song) was unbelievable tonight...special for sure. A few rough spots (Fez wasn't so great...DF and WB left the stage and the band was a little out of kilter on this tune).
Crowd was more into it tonight...not as rambunctious as request night (with all the screaming requests), but there was a more exuberant response to the music. People were sing-songing along to My Old School like crazy.
Loved the piano intro to Peg.
The night was more on the low key side, since so many of the hits never got played (no Rikki, no Dirty Work, no Dr.Wu, no FM). But it was a night of terrific music...a great feeling all night long.
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 23:27:55 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, LIRR track 17
The band was as hot inside as the weather outside. The Donald was in great voice tonight. What a stellar Don't Take Me Alive. He was growling "back in Oregon" great, great, great! Haitian Divorce with Sir Walter & Jon trading licks at the end-Amazing. Scam,Scam,Scam,Scam. Aja and Home At Last were brilliant. 3rd World Man oh man and then Cindy M comes out, afro nearly eclipsing other 3 girls.Another exceptional set-2 more left for me and the Beacon. Can't get enough!
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 23:13:01 ET
Posted by: Greg, in SD
Thank you for the on the spot updates, Margaret.
Cool to hear about Nash and Graham in the audience. I wonder if Jeff Pevar was there too.
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 22:47:14 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
Steely Dan 8/10/09
The Royal Scam
Hey Nineteen
Daddy (Walter)
Aja
Black Friday
Home at Last
Parker's Band
Band Intros
Third World Man
Josie (Jim Beard solo piano intro)
My Old School
Encores:
Peg
Reeling in the Years
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 22:30:28 ET
Posted by: Gary,
Thanks for the setlists, Margaret.
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 19:36:29 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Well, LWO, 2 parking tickets are a good start but, look, try smacking some bitch up at the grocery store, do 20 days in County jail and get back to me. Bonnie Parker you're not.
But you have definite possibilities.
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 19:23:08 ET
Posted by: Denise, 2 ifs...
...IF the play Your Gold Teeth and IF it should come up on YouTube, would some kind soul please let us know? Many thanks.
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 16:40:41 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
I'm on the lirr headed to the show. Damn- I can't wait to hear 'em again!!
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 15:41:52 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, N.Y.seeyainafewhours
That A/C better be crankin' tonight!! Can I still vote for Kings??????????????? No? Why not? Oh, right right right...the voting for tomorrows show ended. ..and it wasn't on the list. Right: well I would like to hear it. So there! Anyway-to all my fellow Dan-goers tonight:ENJOY!
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 15:20:08 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, El Segundo Cubicle
A couple of minor points of clarification:
The voting for the August 25th Internet Request (Gibson) show ends tomorrow, August 11. I believe that the voting for the Chicago Internet Request show ends on August 21, but I cannot positively confirm that.
The title track from Two Against Nature is on the Gibson ballot.
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 13:03:27 ET
Posted by: Danny Boy, wake up
Besides the fact that those songs were NOT on the list, the voting ENDED weeks ago.
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 12:05:59 ET
Posted by: Jack Webb, At The Desk
Okay this is getting VERY tiresome. Daniel, Frank thinks we have a "language barrier" goin on. I'm inclined to agree with him. LET'S TRY THIS ONE MORE TIME:
The following songs WERE NOT ON THE VOTING LIST:
Kings
West of Hollywood
Negative Girl
Midnight Cruiser
Two Vs Nature
David Palmer
YOU WILL NOT HEAR THEM!!!!!
ALSO, "MEMPHIS & DETROIT ARE NOT INTERNET REQUEST SHOWS", I REPEAT,
"MEMPHIS & DETROIT ARE NOT INTERNET REQUEST SHOWS"
RIP Willy Deville
....just the facts
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 12:03:21 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
doc k: So then I go and check my mail. Yeah. Like he said.
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 11:59:18 ET
Posted by: Daniel Joseph, New York, New York
The Dean, in St. Augustine. Your right. Do you think they would Play West of Hollywood. What album is Showbiz Kids on? I gotta get Citizen. Does David Palmer still sing with Steely Dan. I saw July 31st show of Royal Scam. It was great. But I need: Do It Again Bodizhatva and Midnight Cruiser. Your funny, no chance of snow in summer that they will play Kings. Too obscure. Maybe next year they do nights of "Two Against Nature" and "Cant Buy a Thrill." How about Jeff "Skunk" Baxter coming in for guitars at the August 11 , New York Show? How about Denny Dias on guitars? Steely "Too Many Great Songs" Dan Fan...Request West of Hollywood
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 11:52:49 ET
Posted by: Daniel Joseph, New York, New York
The Dean, in St. Augustine. Your right. Do you think they would Play West of Hollywood. What album is Showbiz Kids on? I gotta get Citizen. Does David Palmer still sing with Steely Dan. I saw July 31st show of Royal Scam. It was great. But I need: Do It Again Bodizhatva and Midnight Cruiser. Your funny, no chance of snow in summer that they will play Kings. Too obscure. Maybe next year they do nights of "Two Against Nature" and "Cant Buy a Thrill." How about Jeff "Skunk" Baxter coming in for guitars at the August 11 , New York Show? How about Denny Dias on guitars? Steely "Too Many Great Songs" Dan Fan...Request West of Hollywood
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 11:40:54 ET
Posted by: Daniel Joseph, New York, New York
Attention Steely Dan Fans in Chicago, New York, Memphis, LA , Las Vegas, and Detroit. Play List for "Request-Vote" Shows. All request-votes are supposed to be cast 14 days prior to the show. 1. Do It Again 2. Dirty Work 3. Kings 4. Midnight Cruiser 5. Reelin in the Years 6. Change of the Guard 7. West of Hollywood 8. Showbiz Kids 9. Kid Charlemagne 10. Bodizhatva 11. Green Earrings 12. Major Dude 13. Don't Take Me Alive 14. The Fez 15. Time Out of Mind 16. Aja 17. Babylon Sisters 18. I Got the News 19. Royal Scam 20. Hey Nineteen 21. Peg 22. Josie 23. Black Cow 24. Janie Runaway 25. Deacon Blues 26. Sign In Stranger
West of Hollywood is 8 minutes and 21 seconds. It would be great to get this song live at a Dan Show. Please go to Steely Dan.com and make a note that this would be a great Set List.
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 11:40:33 ET
Posted by: Daniel Joseph, New York, New York
Attention Steely Dan Fans in Chicago, New York, Memphis, LA , Las Vegas, and Detroit. Play List for "Request-Vote" Shows. All request-votes are supposed to be cast 14 days prior to the show. 1. Do It Again 2. Dirty Work 3. Kings 4. Midnight Cruiser 5. Reelin in the Years 6. Change of the Guard 7. West of Hollywood 8. Showbiz Kids 9. Kid Charlemagne 10. Bodizhatva 11. Green Earrings 12. Major Dude 13. Don't Take Me Alive 14. The Fez 15. Time Out of Mind 16. Aja 17. Babylon Sisters 18. I Got the News 19. Royal Scam 20. Hey Nineteen 21. Peg 22. Josie 23. Black Cow 24. Janie Runaway 25. Deacon Blues 26. Sign In Stranger
West of Hollywood is 8 minutes and 21 seconds. It would be great to get this song live at a Dan Show. Please go to Steely Dan.com and make a note that this would be a great Set List.
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 11:12:39 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
doc kelly: you probably noticed in the Danfests tab around here that there be nothing, and I have not received any mail attempting to establish a thang or whatever. Unfortunately, travel arrangements and big brother have precluded the canis lupidae from sponsoring, although my little brother, the longtime Memphian, said there are couples of likely dives over by the monorail terminus. With all this modern instant style communication and all, if things change, I'm gonna see if I can get the boys to head for the pre-show drink and jitters in time to hit said monorail by 7 or so. I'll try to hijack a laptop by 5.
I mean, for what it's worth.
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 10:44:40 ET
Posted by: mr samm, my song for request night
folks!
you get a chance to see the bonnie raitt/taj mahal show - GO.
it is excellent.
no, no dirty work, sadly.
diky fataar
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 08:46:58 ET
Posted by: rindy, nyc
danfans - extra ticket for tonight's (8/10) royal scam show @beacon
great orch. seat (row x) - only $100 ($172 ticket)
email me asap (rindy2k@gmail.com) if you want it!
rindy
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 08:00:50 ET
Posted by: Borgata Attendee, east
Review of AC show
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/columnists/david_hiltbrand/20090810_Steely_Dan_s_static_showcase_of_its_sophisticated_song_craft.html
Date: Mon, August 10, 2009, 01:19:57 ET
Posted by: any world I'm welcome to, new jersey
Well, I went to the 8/4 internet request night and they played 7 out of my 20 picks. Can't say I was unhappy, though. Enjoyed the show immensely (got me motivated to get tix to Royal Scam tomorrow).
Hoping I'll hear some of the tunes I missed and was surprised they didn't play (Deacon Blues, Bodi).
Date: Sun, August 09, 2009, 23:14:23 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Daniel,
Not to be confrontational, or picky, but
I like most of your list, but why would you include songs you KNOW they are going to play, anyway? Kid C, Peg, Bodi, Don't Take Me Alive, Reelin (it seems anyway, this tour) for example.
This isn't really directed at just you, but anyone making requests. I think the best strategy is to pick songs you like that might not get enough votes from other fans. But, hey, that's just me.
Also, I don't think there is a snowballs' chance in hell they will play Kings (was it even on the list?). But it can't hurt to try, I guess
Date: Sun, August 09, 2009, 21:41:12 ET
Posted by: Daniel Joseph, New York, New York
Attention Steely Dan Fans in New York, Chicago, LA , Las Vegas and Detroit. Please help me/us create an Ultimate Steely Dan Play List, and then "Request Vote" these songs for the August 11th Show in New York. l. Do It Again 2. Dirty Work 3. West of Hollywood 4. Reelin In the Years 5. Showbiz Kids 6. Kid Charlimagne 7. Bodizhatva 8. Midnight Cruiser 9. Green Earrings 10. Kings 11. Time Out of Mind 12. Two Against Nature 13. Peg 14. Hey Nineteen 15. Don't Take Me Alive 16. Aja 17. Josie 18. Black Cow 19. Babylon Sisters 20 Major Dude 21. The Royal Scam 22. Janie Runaway Thank you Please be ambitious and find out how to cast "request votes"
Date: Sun, August 09, 2009, 21:38:20 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, S x SW
For some reason, I watched "Sleepless in Seattle" yesterday, which opens with Tom Hanks thinking about his dead wife to the haunting strains of "Stardust." And for some reason, the song reminded me of "Dr Wu." Which harkens to what the Raj said about it being one of the boys' most laconic melodies.
BTW, Rajah, you'll be happy to know I got TWO parking tickets this year. Dan Karma.
Date: Sun, August 09, 2009, 21:34:28 ET
Posted by: Zim, on the porch in CT
Finally a moment to comment about Foxwoods. 14 yr old daughter Stacy was along for this one also-I think I've got her hooked! She came to Boston with me too and each show gets more fun with her.
Beautiful day at the beach, fun dinner with WuDuf and hubby BT. Foxwoods show sounded and looked great. Scored backstage passes so that was fun. As usual, Herrington and Carlock shined.
The crowd was enthusiastic and the sound was pure Dan. A great night!
Date: Sun, August 09, 2009, 21:04:06 ET
Posted by: doc kelly, dude ranch
P.Rueben: what's the latest on a pre-Memphis gathering?
Date: Sun, August 09, 2009, 19:03:01 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Dear Dandom;
Just like in our own lives, sadness or tragedy occasionally strikes Donald, Walter or other associates of our favorite duo.
And the Greater Dandom comes through with the most respectful, heart-felt and genuine expressions of sympathy and love.
One thing that we try to here is have honor our favorite musicians' privacy and need for space.
More than a few of you have emailed or posted some wonderful thoughts and wishes about a recent tragedy. One site esoterically a few hops away from content has even had a brief post about it. An allusion was even made at one of the NYC shows but what it meant didn't become apparent for another day or two.
Regardless, it seems best to remain quietly mum here until those affected wish to speak and seem open to more public comment. Sometimes, that will be months--taking the form of passing reference in an interview or the like.
On top of that, sites like this one are read by entertainment writers and the like, so we hate to encourage them.
Thanks for your understanding as to why somethings are best left unsaid, until we get a cue otherwise. And please, make me aware if you sense something is different than what I've just written.
Best wishes and heartfelt prayers,
Jim
Date: Sun, August 09, 2009, 16:11:18 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
http://www.courant.com/entertainment/music-reviews/hc-steely-dan-review-0809.artaug09,0,7956402.story
MGM review
Date: Sun, August 09, 2009, 09:56:06 ET
Posted by: Mark from North of Boston, north of boston
Just returned from Foxwoods. Took the long way home. Was in no rush to get back to work.
The MGM show was excellent. First to mention a previous post that someone said that Carolyn looked to be with child again. Well at this show she didn't. Black skirt above the knees, glittery neck tie sort of thing. She was beautiful. Tawatha and Janice both looked and sounded great also.
Donalds voice was clear and clean. A couple of days rest does wonders for a professional. Walter was smooth as heck during his leads. The whole band looked to be having alot of fun . Herrington was smiling away.
The audience was right into this one. Many hoots and requests during the lulls. A few standing Os and very loud to bring the encore.
Great sounding venue. "What a night!"
Date: Sun, August 09, 2009, 08:51:30 ET
Posted by: FLK, uppermiddlelowereastside
Unless he's trying for a visual as bad as the sound, Walter should take his hand out of his pocket when singing.
Date: Sun, August 09, 2009, 07:37:28 ET
Posted by: Borgata Patron, back home
re: Roger's birthday. Two years ago at Borgata it was also his "birthday", and that show was in May.
Date: Sun, August 09, 2009, 03:13:53 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
Oops, Don't Take Me Alive and Kid Charlemagne before the encores. Herington rips
Date: Sun, August 09, 2009, 03:10:52 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
Just back from Borgata. 11th row center.
Superb venue for acoustics. Every instrument and vocal was clear and separate.
Band was razor sharp, energetic, and Don's pipes were strong and limber.
1 hour, 40 minute set designed for a casino audience, so they stuck to a reliable, well-known, "hits" list. Carlock and Herington were on fire, and the addition of Beard adds class, sophistication, and expertise.
I took notes, so the Aquarian review will be crafted in the coming days.
Jazz (Oliver Nelson - Teenie's Blues)
Black Friday - Doors' Roadhouse feel, as Walt, Don, and the ladies arrive.
Aja - impeccable..Beard & Keith shine, Don dons the melodica
Hey 19 - Walt drops the cute story, adds "skate a little lower now" and "sure looks good". Pugh finishes strong.
Dirty Work - ladies take turns, Beard masters the organ, Michael trumpet. Sweet!
Peg - Herington stays loyal to the original, with his own style
Home at Last - just as you'd love to hear it
Do it Again - first word I wrote down was "gorgeous". True to the original, with some superb twists.
Supremes - Itchin' - Don exits stage left, Walt introduces the band, with a little extra from birthday boy Roger. Don re-emerges.
Babylon - Michael trumpet
Daddy - Walt nails vocals! Funky, jazzy, nasty with great Roger solo
Black Cow - sublime
Josie - Beard intro with a Gershwin/Ragtime feel
Encores:
Reelin' 72
My Old School
Last Tango
Flawless execution with passion, swagger and confidence, with zero pretense or arrogance.
Bravo!
Oh, and the lighting (blacklight purple, teal, green, red) was tastefully choreographed. Best I've seen, truly.
Date: Sun, August 09, 2009, 01:45:36 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Congrats all around. Another show closer to the muddy old man.
Date: Sun, August 09, 2009, 01:26:04 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
just back from da Borgata, set list was the same as Foxwoods, great show, great sound in the Event Center...Fagen's voice was in great shape...Becker and the rest of the band were as tight as ever...what a treat to hear Reelin '72...
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 23:25:43 ET
Posted by: Muswellbrook Mambo, Black Friday
Harking back to an old post about famous Dan fans: what's the deal with Paul Rudd in Judd Apatow films? A spirited defense of the Dan in Knocked Up and the running gag abut Michael McDonald in 40-y-o Virgin.
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 20:46:43 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
MGM show started around 8:10, over a little before 10.
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 17:49:05 ET
Posted by: any world I'm welcome to,
thanks for the advice...I was sooo tempted to do the 4 shows for the price of 3, but it was so much money, I chickened out. Now, after having seen the 8/4 show, it is hard to stay away. Just looking for a different set list.
They played so much of Aja on 8/4 (I think all but deacon blues and I got the news), I was hoping to hear some other tunes. From Royal Scam they played Kid Charlemagne and Don't Take me Alive. From Gaucho they played Hey 19 and Babylon Sisters. So it is a toss up for me.
I'm afraid of going to the all request night and hearing the exact same playlist.
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 17:33:04 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, it'ssocosmic
angel: The alternate take is close...plus you can really hear Rainey and Porcaro. PM me at that 2nd arrangement.
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 16:57:42 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Dr. Wu: I have always loved the song, but I had a CD player or headphones that were dying once and as I was listening to the song, everything dropped out but the piano. It was a revelation to say the least. That piano is so beautiful to begin with and to hear even the parts that are overshadowed by the rest of the instruments, was just wonderful. Unfortunately for me, I never could replicate the problem again...one shot at paradise was all I got. :-)
Anyone else really getting into the extended outro on the You Tube clip of that track. Love it!
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 16:18:25 ET
Posted by: moray eel, no segue
Shows attended:
1992 New York Rock and Soul Revue at Pine Knob (Detroit)- Crowd went wild when each SD/DF song started. Walter commented that it was scary up on stage when the audience reacted to the first chords of Deacon Blues. Agreed. I've never heard a crowd get so loud at an SD related show since.
1993-Popular Creek (Chicago) Stormed all day and the sky was beautiful that night. Crowd was tame. Drew Zingg was amazing.
1994-Pine Knob (Detroit) Dennis Chambers was incredible. Georg Wadenius was awful. He completely ruined Third World Man. Fagen kept shooting him dirty looks whenever he broke a string. The majority of Alive In America came from this concert.
1996-Pine Knob (Detroit) - Best I've ever heard SD sound. I liked the creativity of Wayne Krantz and Fagen's voice sounded better than the CDs. I would have gladly paid a thousand dollar to hear it. Thanks Donald!
2003-Konocti Harbor (San Fran) - Great seats. The sound was a little loud... overblown. Perfect setting on the lake for an SD concert.
2003-United Center (Chicago) -Decent show. Seemed to be missing something.
2006-Donald Fagen (Chicago Theatre) - Great show. Did the All Access package and was able to hear the full soundcheck (w/ Maxine). Also able to meet and take pictures with the band. Had some decent "free" food nearby and got a 2nd row, center seat for about $200. "Free" DF laptop bag, scarf, keychain, raffles, etc. Couldn't beat that deal with a stick. Also, since it was a Fagen show the set list was very different from the standard SD set list.
2009-?
m.e.
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 15:55:35 ET
Posted by: advice for, any world
If I would choose only one show, it would easily be the Royal Scam show. You will get all of Scam and most if not all of Aja too. Aja you get only Kid C and possibly Don't Take Me Alive. Same with Gaucho night-most of Aja too. Check with Beacon box office regarding rescheduled, 12th gig as tix may have been returned due to conflicts with attendees. (Hat is also the one-so far officially-w/Larry Carlton. 10th or 12th...Hey (19) why not both?
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 15:54:08 ET
Posted by: any world I'm welcome to,
trying to decide which of the 3 remaining Beacon shows to go to...
Any advice?
Saw the Internet Request Nite show and it looks like the setlist was very similar to the CT casino show.
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 14:25:41 ET
Posted by: any world I'm welcom to, new jersey
Been an SD fan since the beginning...know all the words kind of fan.
Favorite album: Katy Lied.
Shows I've seen: Meadowlands, NJ Performing Arts Center, Beacon (8/4 internet request night. They played 7 of my 20 requests.
Trying to decide what other show to see next week (Royal Scam, Request Night, Gaucho). Any advice?
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 13:19:13 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Yikes. For "gambling Hell" that does seem to be awfully not eternal.
Boys, I think we got an unlove song here that is maybe more expenditure than loss. Call me a using, dopehead, junkie, addict, but I think the good Dr. is just a sort of "...we're gonna take things down a little now..." version of 'Do it Again' without the lugubriousness, of 'Boston Rag' without the grandeur. Tender, melodic, and gut-wrenching, The Man With the Golden Arm could have sung it all night long while he waited hoping the cruiser would return from Mr. Chow's before the Razor Boy got there to rassle his monkey.
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 12:07:25 ET
Posted by: Duth, North Caldwell NJ
Anyone @ the Foxwood show --What time did Donald and Walter saunter on stage?
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 11:11:41 ET
Posted by: Borgata, Attendee
Note to band: 3rd Borgata show in a year. Mix it up a little please.
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 11:08:25 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Hmm... if that setlist is true, they did the exact same setlist as their most recent show (8/4/09 Internet Request Night) and just took off some songs (Dr. Wu, Rikki Don't Lose that Number, FM, Any Major Dude Will Tell You, and possibly Deacon Blues (someone reported it might have been played, but it wasn't in the tweets)). The order is exactly the same.
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 10:59:22 ET
Posted by: Dr. Floo,
DF: "Waiting for the taste of no tomorrow..." LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlZmn3gXWzE&NR=1
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 10:40:37 ET
Posted by: zootnewton, Atlantic City
8/7/09 MGM Grand Foxwoods setlist:
Teenie's Blues
Black Friday
Aja
Hey 19
Peg
Dirty Work
Home At Last
Do It Again
band intros (Itchin' In My Heart)
Babylon Sisters
Daddy Don't Live
Black Cow
Josie
DTMA
Kid C
encores: Reelin ('72) & My Old School
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 10:35:42 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Joey, it's certainly about loss...
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 09:23:18 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" The song Dr. Wu speaks to our weaknesses as flawed human beings, speaks to that certain emptiness we all carry somewhere inside us. This is the magic of that song. It turns the mirror on us. This is why we love it so. It is nothing less than a naked admission of our fallibility. This is a great song. "
My Nizzle .
I have often wondered if the tune ' Dr. Wu ' is actually a love song not about drugs ...... but about Donald's first girlfriend ?!
Katy Lies ?!
Personal INDEED !!!!!!!
Developing .................................
J. Fly ! ™
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 08:07:05 ET
Posted by: Litodeck, Madison
Anyone have the set list from the MGM Foxwoods show last night? Thanks.
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 06:43:16 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Yes, Denise, that lovely piano on Dr. Wu...hypnotic, isn't it? It may be their most old school, laconic and delicate melody. Yes, it probably is. If it weren't for the twisted lyric, Frank could have sung that song. It reminds me of Moonlight Serenade and I'll Be Home for Christmas. It tugs at the heartstrings, does it not?
Rueben, very astute observation there, standing up to yourself is the greatest challenge, I really do believe.
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 01:51:44 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Wow. It is getting on. I'm hoping for Boston 7/25, but I'm betting Rome6/Perugia11.
Man. Paul McCartney: 35 numbers Thurs. night. I'm green with monster.
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 01:49:28 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
Good show tonite for a casino show. DF welcomed us all to 'gambling hell'. He seemed very chipper, the cold must be pretty much gone. He sounded good, had just a very slight rasp at times, not unpleasant. His voice cracked once slightly, and he spaced out a bit on the 'wear no socks and shoes' in Black Friday. He had it back by the time the kangaroos appeared. He was having a good time during My Old School - after the oleander verse, he adlibbed, 'that's what I'm talkin' bout' and then 'yeah. YEAH!' Downright excitable for a gothic muppet.
I don't have a setlist for ya, sorry. A cute boy sat next to me and I'm very distractible. Here's what I know I heard:
Aja, Black Friday, Hey 19, Dirty Work (gals), Peg, Daddy Don't Live (WB), Home At Last, Don't Take Me Alive, Itching (intros seemed way too early), Josie, Reelin' 72, Kid C, My Old School...and Teenie's and Tango of course.
WB's guitar sounded very sweet tonite, JH a little wild in a good way, he seemed a bit excitable too. Good energy tonight. And the girls looked lovely.
OK, have to sleep, have to get up for work in under 4 hours. Lucky me.
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 01:16:54 ET
Posted by: Mikey,
Any word on the Foxwood setlist???????
Date: Sat, August 08, 2009, 00:16:33 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Welcome back to the Dr. Wu School of Orienteering.
Some dope was lecturing about how it takes courage to stand up to one's enemies. And it takes more better courage to stand up to one's friends. But the ultimate courage allows one to stand up to one's self. Wait, was Professor Dumbledore a dope?
Then there's the matter of that big Bossendorfer mirror.
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 20:39:37 ET
Posted by: Denise, out for the weekend
Rajah, what you say is true, but there is also that lovely piano bit, yes?
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 20:12:18 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Little Wild One, you and I know each other pretty well, yes, so there is no need to fake anything here.
The song Dr. Wu speaks to our weaknesses as flawed human beings, speaks to that certain emptiness we all carry somewhere inside us. This is the magic of that song. It turns the mirror on us. This is why we love it so. It is nothing less than a naked admission of our fallibility. This is a great song.
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 18:43:13 ET
Posted by: correction, 4thosethatnitpick
24th(G'cho)mybad;cdgood
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 18:35:16 ET
Posted by: 4therecord, orcd4thematter
The22nd(letsplay2)isgreatasisthe25th(g'cho)asRsomeoftheearlyrentshowsandleftbankgigs-ifweRable2postUtubelinks-whichRmoredistractingtoband/audienceYRwenotable2provideaudiolinkshere???? "No ree.....turnnnnn". "You're in our seats"
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 17:38:39 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston
Pardon me,for the record,my mistake i have heard two cd's of one show and 2 cuts of the 25th sorry for the confusion and what the hell am i explaining myself to you for !!! kiss my ass!!!!! fezzie lol
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 16:58:30 ET
Posted by: For The Record,
[Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 21:36:59 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston
Ok,i admit i'm a Boston fan and at the time of this post i have'nt heard a thing live out of NYC,but i've got to tell you i have heard two cd's 7/22 and 7/25 that i challenge anyone to tell me that the boy's and girls have played any better!!!!!!!Absoulutley incredible!!! the 22nd cd is amazing,the 25th is even better]
First you say you've heard TWO CD's, one that includes said "7/25".
Then when challenged you claim, you've only heard a "couple cuts".
fezzup, fezzie. You got your dates wrong. No biggie.
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 16:33:43 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston
just for information purposes only,i have heard a couple of cuts from the 7/25 show and awaiting hard copies,I am not SELLING these or any gems that have ever been given to me by other fans over the years.If you have e-mailed me it is all explained in my e-mail to you,fezzie.........Sorry Jim it was not my intent to create any issues!!,my apologies..... paul
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 15:47:47 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, earplugs please
David Palmer??? I hated his voice in 1972 and I still hate it in 2009. In fact, I almost don't consider 'Dirty Work' a Steely Dan song because he's singing it. Although, I did get a kick out of Tony Soprano belting it out in the season 3 opener of The Sopranos.
A friend of mine recently told me that David Palmer wrote a bunch of songs with Carol King including "Jazzman". I can't believe I never knew that.
Have fun at Foxwoods tonight!
Mark in Boston
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 15:06:27 ET
Posted by: Jack Webb, Lunch Time, Clifton's Cafeteria
Okay, it's time to clear some things up. Citizen Joseph, perhaps you are unaware how the "Internet Voting" works this year. Frank has a few points for you, The following songs WERE NOT ON THE VOTING LIST:
Kings
West of Hollywood
Negative Girl
Midnight Cruiser
Two Vs Nature
David Palmer
....just the facts & pass the pepper Frank
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 14:49:14 ET
Posted by: Daniel Joseph, New York, New York
Attention Steely Dan Show Fans in New York, LA , Chicago, Vegas , and Detroit....Lets get a Play Set Together of our Request Votes.
I am 2nd Row Ctr on August 11, New York Show. Please help me Reuest-Vote for a great play list. Then, Steely Dan can do those songs for you. l. Do it Again 2. Dirty Work 3.West of Hollywood 4. Reelin in the Years 5. Showbiz Kids 6. Kid Charlemagne 7. Bodizhatva 8. Midnight Cruiser 9. Green Earrings 10. Two Against Nature 11. Peg 12. Hey Nineteen 13.Time Out of Mind 14. Don't Take Me Alive 15. Aja 16. Kings 17. Josie 18. Black Cow 19. Babylon Sisters 20. Janie Runaway 21. Jack of Speed 22. Cousin Dupree 23. The Royal Scam 24. Deacon Blues 25. Hame at Last 26. I got the News 27. Sign in Stranger 28. Major Dud Thank You. Please request vote for me-us. We request DAVID PALMER to help with vocals ,as in, "Can't Buy A Thrill - DAVID PALMER," if at all possible. PLEASE REQUEST VOTE , we will get a great LIVE CD.
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 10:43:51 ET
Posted by: Jack Webb, Hollywood & Vine
As per Steedly Dan.com:
Larry Carlton is only playing One more show in NYC.
& Fezzie does not have a copy of the 7/25 show. 7/24, yes. but 7/25 no.
....just the facts
BTW, If you are in town and not going to the Steely Dan show on 8/22
you can catch Larry with Fourplay at the ever beautiful Hollywood Bowl.
....101Eastbound
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 08:30:08 ET
Posted by: tripel, NYC
does anyone know where i can find all the setlists from this tour? I know they're here & there on this board, but would love to see them all lines up, to guess and what might be upcoming next week at the Beacon..
cheers
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 08:11:07 ET
Posted by: WuDuF, gettin' ready to groove
As I see it on the tour schedule, tonight is the first Rent Party night that there are no requests or entire albums. It will be cool to hear what "recipe" they come up with for a set list! Who knows what could be in store!!
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 07:01:02 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Thanks for all the links, y'all. The Voice with it's related articles was most tasty. The Kenny Vance piece from the steelydanarchive was like getting the fifth Beatle story from Rick Springfield himself. I've always enjoyed Tomas Broberg for some of that old audio. Gee, only 170 hours 'til Ecstasy. Maybe I should ask the wife if I can go.
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 00:58:10 ET
Posted by: ravi, drinkwater
hey danald, as the beautiful lisa says - you're crappin your voice with coke.
and backing one of the most crud-crapping companies in the world
http://www.indiaresource.org/campaigns/coke/
drink local h20 - safest in the world, so we can hear your voice nice and clear on the new dvd-A - live recording. 5.1
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 00:40:30 ET
Posted by: suedave, addicted!
I don't know about the title but nice article just the same
http://www.villagevoice.com/2009-08-04/music/suicide-threats-and-midlife-crises-at-steely-dan-s-beacon-run/1
The band was really on FIRE in Boston on 7/24 & especially 7/25 - a sample is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpqexH1pY8o
The crowd was on Fire on 7/31 & 8/1. There was a special energy and joie de vivre with LC as a guest guitarist in NYC. Great playing between JH, LC, and WB. Would be fun to see a DVD of that. Can't wait for Donald to get better. Take care of yourself DF!
Fezzie, can't wait to hear the 7/25 show. xoxo.
Date: Fri, August 07, 2009, 00:28:47 ET
Posted by: paxton's, backstreet carnival
aw those audience tapes are cool but don't sound nearly as cool as the newly released strawberry alarm clock -incense & peppermints LP in all its glorious vinylness.
get yours today your groovykids
http://www.sundazed.com/product_info.php?products_id=1100
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 21:33:57 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, soon to be in AC
Your intrepid reporter, Jive, has scored 2 Borgata press seats thanks to super cousin Mike and the SD management team. I'll be taking notes and will have my review published in NJ's Aquarian Weekly. I love this band!
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 21:06:30 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
Pixeleen
please be my three times perfect ultra queen and send me an email I have a question for you
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 20:43:19 ET
Posted by: bikemann, nj
I see my curiosity was removed when I saw Fezzie mentioned hearing the Wang shows on cd. Looking back, I think it was the use of the word "WHERE" in my question. Sorry if I broke the rules but I'm getting tired of wiping the drool off my chin for DR WU on disc!
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 20:35:17 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o Another ticket, Your Gold Teeth
Zec, I hope you're right. A multi-DVD release would seem to be in order. They may also choose to air some of their Beacon performances on the MSG Network, as they did with a recent DMB show. My hopes are high.
Joey $.02 - I'm with you. One of their very best shows, and I've seen a bunch in LA, NY and Boston.
Fezzy, A recording of 7/25???
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 19:10:35 ET
Posted by: zec, sitchin
<<Larry Carlton THIS JUST IN!! MORE NYC STEELY DAN DATES I will be playing 3 more shows in NYC with Steely Dan, Aug 10-12 @ the Beacon Theatre, If ya missed the first two come out and enjoy the fun!!>>>
anybody thinks this ISN"T for recording purposes - with healthy fagen vocal chords- probably doesn't think the usa isn't gonna bomb the moon on october 9 either.
be prepared for other "guests."
as always read this quickly before the great redactor godwhacks it!
lenny vance
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 18:53:13 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston
Reuben,Not sure where you are going with your comment,but for the sake of clarity let me say that i personally have re-purchased every cd released by the boys at least 30 times lol,i wear them out,lend them,gift them,spill crap on them,lose them,melt them,break them,step on them,scratch the hell out of them.After every calamity i replace them because i do believe in supporting them in every way i can.Yes i have some unique stuff that friends have sent me over the years and i treasure those gems.Their released material is supported as it should be by all of us.....Fezzie
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 16:31:26 ET
Posted by: Steve, Old London Town
Yeah but that Jethro Tull dude really is a dildo.....[sorry, couldn't resist]
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 14:33:34 ET
Posted by: pixeleen, reelin'
Great *new* video on youtube from the July 31 Beacon show.
JH and LC are having waaay too much fun!
Carolyn looks pregnant again ??? Maybe it's just the dress ??
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 13:32:57 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Twitter just tweeted this tweet to me: It wasn't really a denial of service attack. It was more a "...dammit. There have only been three legitimate 'They're playing Dr. Wu!' tweets! Why are we being denied?" sort of waspishness.
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 13:16:07 ET
Posted by: Mark from North of Boston, north of boston
Was talking with someone the other day. I mentioned I was taking a couple of days off and was going to see Steely Dan. His response was "Oh yeah, He's great!" I didn't even go into it.
You all know who else is great? Jethro Tull. Yeah. He's the greatest.
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 12:31:03 ET
Posted by: ws, kb
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iI3haCQXCN4b90Cxzp3H_Gg-I0QQD99TB4980
"I've met many parents of Ajas and Josies over the years. It's very flattering," Fagen said.
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 12:06:07 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Hey, Mr. The Dean, I made up a story about a low-flying fool:
Fezzie: I agree about those versions of those Boston Shows. If as close as a body can get to the W*ng is a mouse hole, lade me down. But what if there were folks who only thought they should hear the live shows they attended with their own two feet or were captured alive about the country? You shouldn't tempt those guys to give up on their listening choice or what we might call, 'steely dignity' (s d, for short). In today's modern world in which we now currently are present as we speak here in real time, there are too many opportunities to fall off the aural wagon dat come along. Bootlegging, sound boarding, K-Telling, dot iss like der Mexican mafia antichrist flavored chocolate donuts, yummy onn der mallus but dammus onn der incus. It's almost like a rubric or a paradigm that develops: The situation of Kaz wants to make sure he remembers what he heard correctly dot comes to smack him in der head. Ooh. De head iss hurten. We must be sure. And all this information is bearing down on us like a banzai charge out the kirschwasser in your spoon.
Short story long: Help Pixeleen. on't tantalize. Don't titillate. Don't create:
the trade her s d in dot coms
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 11:35:55 ET
Posted by: SaxFan, New York
Variety has an article about Steely Dan, also a picture of Larry Carlton and Roger Rosenberg, although they spelled it "Rosenthal". LOL!
http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117940763.html?categoryid=34&cs=1
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 11:01:43 ET
Posted by: Daniel, New York, New York
LOOK at this PLAY LIST: West of Hollywood, Jack of Speed, Janie Runaway, Two Against Nature, Reelin in the Years, Dirty Work, Showbiz Kids, Bodizhatva, Major Dude , Babylon Sister, Hey Nineteen, Time out of Mind, Kid Charlemagne, Green Earrings, The Fez, Don't Take Me Alive, The Royal Scam, Aja, Peg, Josie, Black Cow,I got the News, Home at Last, Sign in Stranger. WOW Please help me get my requests for the New York City Show , on Tuesday, August 11th, 2009, at the Beacon Theatre. I'm second row center in the Pit of the Orchestra. Look at that Play List....Thats 24 songs. Put those 24 songs on your IPOD. Could this be a LIVE CD. Help me-us. Vote in these songs as Requests for August 11. New York goes to Chicago, goes to LA, goes to VEGAS, Goes to DETROIT.
I cant find the internet spot to make request - votes. I attended the Royal Scam Show, July 31...GREAT Show. Its was all GOOD!! Enjoy Steely Dan and Thanks for your Help. Please vote in my requests for August 11, I must hear "West of Hollywood." Good Day
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 10:50:28 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" ROYAL SCAM at BEACON THEATER was RIGHT UP THERE WITH THEIR BEST EVER SHOWS. To see Larry Carlton play his famous Kid C solo and Third World Man were such great moments. This was my first ever non-Peg, non-FM show. So refreshing to see 2 entirely different gigs within one week. I wish I could go to Aja and Gaucho. "
Seriously .....
With the advent of www.youtube.com one would think that NOW is the time for Walt & Donald to go ahead and FINALLY release [ officially ] a ' Steely Dan LIVE ' DVD / CD Package . I mean , it is THEIR hard work -- sweat and blood -- so why not make some well earned additional dollars from this concert tour ?!
Joey's two cents .....
I remain ... FORVER ..... your Joey .
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 10:48:21 ET
Posted by: Daniel, New York, New York
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 10:38:34 ET
Posted by: hey pixeleen, you know...
if you want info, it's always nice to have email addresses so peeps can help you
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 10:28:10 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
I believe Andy took his site down in a disagreement with Steely Dan's management. it is a shame, as there was great content there other than the downloads.
if I recall correctly, Andy's site was the first to break the news about Morph the Cat and maybe even EMG.
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 07:12:28 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Fezzie:
What a tease !! Do share more info on the Boston cd's, if possible.
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 04:57:39 ET
Posted by: steelydanarchive;, gone but not forgotten
No idea why Andy's site stopped.
http://www.steelydanarchive.com/
Tere are a few versions of the site saved by the "Wayback machine":
http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.steelydanarchive.com
for those who wonder what the fuss is all about.
Note: None of the links to "sound rarities" are working, so no luck if you're looking for that kind of thrill.
Date: Thurs, August 06, 2009, 00:04:10 ET
Posted by: Mark from North of Boston, north of boston
Just doing some You Tube searching and on this Bright Lights Big City link was a note. "anyone have any idea where andy metzgers site disappeared to? Had loads of non-copyright outtakes on it , and then disappeared?? "
I was wondering the same thing. Andys site did have some great stuff. Wished I had saved it somewhere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUnyJd9xoHA&feature=related
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 23:45:12 ET
Posted by: Mark from North of Boston, north of boston
A nice refresher from 1995.This is an interview in 1995 with Walter Becker and Donald Fagen. It follows Donald and Walter around to various locations in New York. Don't miss this if you haven't seen it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdW9q-JGg0Y
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 22:48:08 ET
Posted by: Daniel, New York
New York Aug. 11 Requests: Hey Nineteen, Babylon Sisters, Do it Again, Reelin in the Years, Dirty Work, Bodishatva, Major Dude, Green Earrings, The Fez, Kid Charlemagne, Showbiz Kids, Dont Take Me Alive, Peg, Aja,
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 21:36:59 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston
Ok,i admit i'm a Boston fan and at the time of this post i have'nt heard a thing live out of NYC,but i've got to tell you i have heard two cd's 7/22 and 7/25 that i challenge anyone to tell me that the boy's and girls have played any better!!!!!!!Absoulutley incredible!!! the 22nd cd is amazing,the 25th is even better,I'm sure they will find there way to all of you in time,the quality is stunning!!!! fezzie
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 20:13:08 ET
Posted by: KD, o-l-l
The Dean - I noticed what I felt was a slight bump last year, but passed that off to the new guitar with louder pickups. I remember leaving the 2007 show thinking that he was way too down, though.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 18:45:33 ET
Posted by: luke,
Hoops- The only added NYC show with Larry Carlton they have listed on SD dot com is Aug 12. Carlton is the one saying Aug 10-12 on his facebook page.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 18:04:01 ET
Posted by: luke,
From Larry Carlton's facebook page:
(I guess Aug 12 isn't the only show in NYC he's playing with them next week)
Larry Carlton THIS JUST IN!! MORE NYC STEELY DAN DATES I will be playing 3 more shows in NYC with Steely Dan, Aug 10-12 @ the Beacon Theatre, If ya missed the first two come out and enjoy the fun!!
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 16:12:40 ET
Posted by: Reelin' in the Beers, Tee Hee
THRILLIST NEW YORK
WEDNESDAY AUGUST 5, 2009
The List
Hump This
Get On A Boat: Waterlogged's Yacht Rock Party
Tonight, 9pm; Pier 17 South Street Seaport, btw South St and Fulton; Seaport
Tonight, the majestic Clipper City Tall Ship yacht-rocks out with its ascot out, complete with appropriately attired revelers (captain's hats, boat shoes, etc) soaking in nautically themed booze from the full-service cash bar, and groovy seas ensured by the smooth perfectionism of Kenny Loggins, Michael McDonald, Ambrosia, and Steely Dan, who will have everyone Reelin in the Beers.
Tickets are just $10 a head, and first come, first serve -- but we've got 25 spots w/ plus-ones for the first 25 to email ThrillistOnABoat@gmail.com.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 15:50:08 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
"wow, Jeff Porcaro passed away 17 YEARS ago today...I remember that I was driving across the country to go to a NY Rock and Soul Revue concert when I got the news..."
i was in Tigard, OR, playing a theater gig, couldn't sleep, got in my car and drove, heard the news on a distant (Portland?) radio station, could barely tune it in, could barely believe my damn ears.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 14:56:14 ET
Posted by: LisaG, @ the "Hoarse" Race
Hey, Bob.
"The lyrics change cause he can't hit some of the notes/lyrics with such a horse voice. He is working it hard to salvage the show................it must go on.....but? "
I can see where you would want to hear what was originally written, at least lyrically and melodically. But I think the essence of true vocal performance does not necessarily always lie within the offering of pristine lyrics. Brain-farts aside, the interpretation of lyrics is what makes certain vocalists masters of singing. It's not so much what is sung--it's how.
I have no problem with Fagen re-arranging somethings to present the tune in a new way. Fresh is good.
I'm actually more concerned about his health, vocal and otherwise--doing these multi-night shows with a cold is not good for anyone. He needs time off to get himself well.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 14:49:05 ET
Posted by: LisaG, With a feelin' I've been here before...
DB16:
"In Boston, they did Dirty Water because it's a Boston song. One would think that they did Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More because it was part of their regular setlist for this year, and it gives a chance for Walter to sing lead. However, I wonder if they will take it out of the setlist for the LA and Chicago shows and add a song that is LA or Chicago themed."
To go with this logic, it would follow suit that the Chicago concert-goers would enjoy "Your Gold Teeth." But there's a huge part of me that thinks it ain't gonna happen.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 14:25:44 ET
Posted by: gold teeth, Tuesday Beacon
Last nights Beacon show was very enjoyable. Having seen every tour since and including the NY Rock and Soul Review, I've seen them play most of their catalog. I don't recall Any Major Dude being played in the past and of course Dr. Wu was also a first for me last night.
As far as Walter singing, I'm surprised their isn't more negative review. I think Walts great, but unless it's Slang of Ages, I'd rather see Donald have the honors. Bathroom break anyone?
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 13:27:54 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando
I must say, really enjoying reading all of these posts re the New York Beacon shows. Comparing these shows to what we got here in the early going down in Orlando, its clear to me that we were just a paycheck for them. I'm not complaining, mind you. But there is no question in my mind that the Dan -- as perfectionist as they might be -- sometimes are "on" and sometimes are doing the job.
Saw them last year in Clearwater at that lil' ole Eckerd Hall. But DF and WB have said before they like it there and I really do think that there's a difference in the quality when they are truly enjoying themsevles.
I'm wondering what the California shows will be like. There is some temptation there for me.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 13:23:27 ET
Posted by: NY, Poster
Recap of last week's Beacon shows.
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2009/08/tasty_steely_dan_bring_the_gui.html
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 12:09:25 ET
Posted by: LC,
What's going on with Larry Carlton's sound?
This is now twice where I have read that LC's guitar cannot be heard.
What's up with that?
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 12:09:22 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, new york new york new york
Having seen the last 3 and having tix for the last 3 at the Beacon here are my thoughts so far- without a doubt in my mind Saturdays show w/LC the best, most energetic so far. Wu into DTME thru Reelin nearly equaled the energy both band and audience wise of "THE" Roseland gig. Crowd on its feet from Itchin' intros' till Tango outro. Carlton's second half playing more than made up for his virtual non-existence on the Aja set. Obviously the first time NYC Wu played a big part in my loving this night so much more so far. I also had zero problem with another Aja set. Both Sat and Mon the crowd was on hits feet at the end of each song and looong ovation at albums completion. Not so after each Aja tune last night, not as much at least. Last night contrary to twat and confirming previous post-Black Friday after T intro, prior to Aja; I also remember Deacon Blues in the set-perhaps too many shows merging with the alchohol? But BF opener for sure. Good to hear Dr Wu again; sounded more jazzed up than first time-also Sat night the crowds singing overshadowed DF and perhaps that's a major reason the youtube vids lead you to believe DF was off. He was overwhelmed by the audience responce and seemed to pick up on the energy more so than last night.Coulda sworn he wiped tears from his eyes after that first Wu (NYC) was done. I agree that Daddy was inserted for its NY theme as Boston Rag in Beantown; think that Rag was voted on, Daddy NOT. Still enjoyed it-WB had some great solos throughout it. Liked his Haitian D better, even liked his Gaucho better. Hopefully the non-special shows the rest of this week/tour will have full Aja slipped in as atreat along with DrWu. They.were both crowd pleasers and a major part of why so many fell in love with the band. More thoughts eventually...
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 11:56:24 ET
Posted by: Donny, People wouldn't have the balls to say to your face what they do here. Hoops, get logins for everyone!!!!!!!!
Or how about Gaucho and Haitian being sung as on the album, that is, by DONALD. That's why Becker didn't sing them.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 11:55:50 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Tom E:
That's what I meant when I said this: "Well obviously, Donald is comfortable enough or has reluctantly agreed to sing those songs on the album night to maintain the authenticity of the albums, and if they come up on the voting (which apparently they haven't), I guess Donald would sing them."
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 11:42:21 ET
Posted by: Tom, E
" would argue that Daddy was left off of the voting list because it's one of the songs Walter sings. Midnight Cruiser and Monkey in Your Soul were also left off, and I think they left these "Walter songs" off because if fans voted for them and Walter sang them, it wouldn't be truly authentic for the fans, even those who like Walter's voice. So what about Gaucho and Haitian Divorce, which are both on the voting list?"
The difference is that Gaucho and Haitian Divorce are contained in the three albums they are doing.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 11:33:32 ET
Posted by: Bob, NYC
Donald should do the right thing and postpone the rest of the tour until he gets well and his voice is back in shape. That is what true SD fans expect from him and the band.
The lyrics change cause he can't hit some of the notes/lyrics with such a horse voice. He is working it hard to salvage the show................it must go on.....but?
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 11:32:20 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Frustrated? How about the Royal Scam night with Larry Carlton? Carlton wasn't even plugged in! And if he was, the sound man surly didn't know when he was playing. You were able to hear Herington and Becker loud and clear. Not Larry. There was nothing more frustrating than that! Hold on, the next night hearing Fagen trying to hit the notes on Dr. Wu while he was sick really sucked! They should have postponed that show. You're right, it wasn't worth the money this time around. At least for the first two Beacon shows I was at. Gravely disappointing . Hoping it (and Fagen) gets better.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 11:25:49 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Yeah, Right:
Daddy wasn't on the 52 song voting list (from msg.com) for the Boston show, and I assume it wasn't on the voting list for the New York shows (or any of the future shows).
Therefore, it couldn't have been voted for anyway. So why did they play it?
Well, they are playing approximately 21 songs at the internet request night shows, excluding Teenie's Blues and Last Tango in Paris. Only 19/21 songs were from the voting list. Love is Like An Itchin' in My Heart was one of them, and it was played at both Boston and New York shows. In Boston, however, for the other the song not on the voting list, they played Dirty Water, whereas in New York, they performed Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More.
In other words, they are doing 19 songs from the voting list (the exception was last night where apparently they only played 18, and that's only if true if the correction to the tweets about Black Friday opening instead of Aja is true), and they are doing two additional songs that aren't on the list. In Boston, they did Dirty Water because it's a Boston song. One would think that they did Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More because it was part of their regular setlist for this year, and it gives a chance for Walter to sing lead. However, I wonder if they will take it out of the setlist for the LA and Chicago shows and add a song that is LA or Chicago themed.
I would argue that Daddy was left off of the voting list because it's one of the songs Walter sings. Midnight Cruiser and Monkey in Your Soul were also left off, and I think they left these "Walter songs" off because if fans voted for them and Walter sang them, it wouldn't be truly authentic for the fans, even those who like Walter's voice. So what about Gaucho and Haitian Divorce, which are both on the voting list? Well obviously, Donald is comfortable enough or has reluctantly agreed to sing those songs on the album night to maintain the authenticity of the albums, and if they come up on the voting (which apparently they haven't), I guess Donald would sing them.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 11:20:49 ET
Posted by: Frustrated,
I'm losing my patience with DF & SD.
DF must have blown lyrics on at least five songs last nite!!
WTF they supposedly pride themselves as perfectionist. BS!!!!
I paid over $200 and change!!!!
If the tickets were cheaper, I may not be so mad but when I threw down over 400 for two tickets I expect better!
thoughts?
comments?
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 10:52:03 ET
Posted by: Useless trivia, USA
Speaking of trombones, IGY is the only track on the Nightly to use them, and has "76" in the lyrics. The song 76 Trombones was copyrighted in 1957, year of the IGY.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 10:49:44 ET
Posted by: yeah , right, not 4 a 2nd
U really want me 2 believe daddy got more votes than: scam, earrings, divorce, deacon, b-rag, nightnight, mid cruiser, gaucho, cousin dupree, (fill in real vote here) etc. ?????????
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 10:44:20 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Don flubbed a bunch of lyrics last night ("I've never seen you lookin' so fine my funky one"; "In the corner / on the run"; another from the end of Dr. Wu), and Walter flubbed inserted the 'fine cigar' line into the first verse of Daddy.
Why did they reharmonize the verse of Rikki? It was a damn travesty (and ruined the guitar solo). The bonus modulations on Daddy Don't Live and Do It Again were only distracting.
Don's voicebox sounded like it was mauled by a stray, rabid kitten.
I'm done with four trombone solos per night.
Maybe it's time to pack it in, kids. "
YOU MAKE JOEY CRY LIKE BABY !!!!!!!!
WHY ?! ... WHY ?! .. !!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 10:25:20 ET
Posted by: tommy beacon,
Don flubbed a bunch of lyrics last night ("I've never seen you lookin' so fine my funky one"; "In the corner / on the run"; another from the end of Dr. Wu), and Walter flubbed inserted the 'fine cigar' line into the first verse of Daddy.
Why did they reharmonize the verse of Rikki? It was a damn travesty (and ruined the guitar solo). The bonus modulations on Daddy Don't Live and Do It Again were only distracting.
Don's voicebox sounded like it was mauled by a stray, rabid kitten.
I'm done with four trombone solos per night.
Maybe it's time to pack it in, kids.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 10:19:39 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
wow, Jeff Porcaro passed away 17 YEARS ago today...I remember that I was driving across the country to go to a NY Rock and Soul Revue concert when I got the news...
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 10:02:57 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
On the youtube video of Dr. Wu, it sounds to me like Donald Fagen says "taste of no tomorrow." If I am hearing correctly, I believe this is a case of Donald mixing up the lyrics. He did get pretty much everything else right though on that version, which is impressive considering they haven't played that song until recently.
Point of (very mild) interest: I've been to a show where My Old School was not part of the setlist. Last year in Atlanta, Kid Charlemagne and FM were the encores...Peg closed out the regular show. My Old School wasn't anywhere in between.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 09:44:50 ET
Posted by: Beacon Attendee, 60' 55' 33' 27'
KC as the set closer, MOS as encore = very stale. King of the World would be a good replacement for either.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 08:32:07 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Lafayette,
It has been reported that Donald sang "I've been waiting for the dime...", 'dime' of course being analogous to, but a little more specific than 'taste'.
KD, the last two (or three) tours Walter has been mixed very high...at least at the shows I attended. He also sounds better at every show I have been to. Jon, on the other hand, could use more volume, IMO.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 08:11:55 ET
Posted by: Night by Night, Groovetime, NY
Last night was good, reminded me of a typical Dan show with the exception of Doc and Reelin. I didn't participate in the voting, but when are we moving away from MOS. That’s been the encore every show since '94. If I'm paying those prices, I want new material otherwise I'll just watch a dvd or youtube. Thoughts?
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 06:34:59 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
steelydan.com has been updated to show that Larry Carlton will play at the August 12 Gaucho (plus) night at the Beacon. This is the rescheduled July 29 show.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 05:46:59 ET
Posted by: KD, o-l-l
And this clip, this is exactly what I've been begging for for years. TURN WALTER UP IN THE MIX!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc_ou0YTuKg
Love him trading off his rhythm guitar instincts with some of the actual bass guitar licks (second verse) he played in the original.
Listen, CBaT is my least favorite Dan album. And I treasure the AiA version of "Reelin'" as much as the original, much as I truly, truly dug the new version played at the beginning of this summer.
But this is fun. This is silly. This is taking chances. The bad that Steely Dan had from 1993 onward wasn't meant to play this song. Or, at least, it thought it wasn't. With JH on board and a lightened mood, good things can come. Kudos to Don and Walt for that.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 05:36:35 ET
Posted by: KD, o-l-l
You know, I've had my issues with setlists since the 2000 spectacular, and I was pretty wary of the ticket prices heading into this summer. Still am, actually.
But the knowledge that Steely Dan is running around from town to town pumping out 1972-era versions of 'Reelin' in the Years' with Jon "Mr. 339" Herington and Larry "Mr. 335" Carlton trading off leads? I don't know how anyone can't be having fun this summer, even if we're just looking at, um, "unauthorized" clips.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 03:44:33 ET
Posted by: Lafayette, NYC
Thanks for the URL to the Dr. Wu/August 1 video.
Does anyone know what the "I've been waiting for the taste" lyric was changed to? DF appears to sing something like "waiting for today, tonight, and tomorrow," but I can't make out the words.
I'd also like to chime in with those who regret that SD isn't playing much, if any, of their newer material. If forced to choose, I'd pick Katy Lied, Royal Scam, Aja, Gaucho over Two Against Nature & EMG, but it's sad that virtually no songs (sans Godwhacker?) from the newer albums are making it into set lists. I don't know if SD has the wrong impression about the fans, or if the majority of fans really strongly prefer the older material to that extent. I think it comes down to the logic behind the voting - we all knew Kid C and Deacon Blues were going to be played, so rather than even bothering to vote for them (even through they're among my favorites), I would have thrown a bone to the newer material hoping some like-minded individuals did as well. I doubt most voters gave quite as much thought to it and instead just picked all of Aja, Kid C, My Old School, Rikki, Reelin', etc.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 02:12:08 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
A review more cynical, detached, and sardonic than that wacky Steely Dan character.
http://www.villagevoice.com/2009-08-04/music/suicide-threats-and-midlife-crises-at-steely-dan-s-beacon-run/2
Sic 'em.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 01:59:03 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Thanks, Joan, and belatedly, to GM, SF, and Hoops for the real-time setlists; apologies if I missed anyone.
Reuben,
I won't bore you with the details, but we did finally vote for the August 25th setlist. Sorry, but there is no tally information that I could find; as soon as the "submit" button is hit the voter is ejected from the page.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2009, 01:39:56 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Thank you, Security Joan, for getting the news out to the hinterlands.
Were the rest of the crowd as enthusiastic as you seemed to be?
Did you get a chance to internet request?
How did that work out for you?
Hope you had a safe insane concert experience night.
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 23:31:00 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, Are you with me?
Man, even with a cold, DF is putting his soul into that Wu. Thanks, Donald and Walter is all I can say!
I can't even begin to explain what that song means to me or why...it's just a Dan Karmic experience.
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 23:28:28 ET
Posted by: doitagain, therightway
Teenie--BlackFriday-Aja
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 21:53:46 ET
Posted by: Tuba110, Perry, Ohio
finally got to watch the Rent Party special on Fuse (had it Tivo'd for a couple of days but finally had time to relax tonight!) MAN the boys seem to have been lookin' to have a good time on this tour. I so wish it was coming to Cleveland!! Carlock looks like a monster so far from the stuff I've seen on youtube! Very jealous of all the folks who will get to see the shows coming up.
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 17:51:07 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Anyone catch this full version of Dr. Wu?
My apologies if it was posted before, but what a trip to hear my 2 top SD songs back to back!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbVALZuQbXA
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 17:27:40 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, NYC bound, hell or high water
Hey for anyone interested, heads up that I will be tweeting set list tonight from @wassilyk on twitter. (Dashing off to NYC now, 3rd row bound)
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 17:22:40 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
Thanks to all for responding - pension/penchant; who really gives fuck if you know what I mean, right? Interesting that none of the soft-handed repondees (do I have that terminolgy correct?) adressed drummming, latin grooves, drummers, drum equipment, etc. See what I mean about the over-inflated musical understanding of the post-graduate set? (the post after Dr Fine's is my gay, immitating stalker...I'm still flattered).
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 16:44:15 ET
Posted by: Joey ,
" Thanks to everyone who has been communicating the setlists.
Joey, I hate to admit it, but I'm starting to enjoy your posts. "
Bless You My Steelian Brother .
My 'nizzle !!
Enjoy :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB9p5_tjCSA
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 15:46:24 ET
Posted by: again?, again!
2nite is another request nite. Do we get another Aja show seeing "since you all voted for all the songs an Aja"? Will 2nite be 3 straight & 4 out of 5 Aja + gigs?
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 15:28:11 ET
Posted by: To Zim, o
According to Foxwood's website, Steely Dan at 8pm.
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 15:16:06 ET
Posted by: Zim, Poolside in Connecticut
Just wondering who will be at the Foxwoods show this Friday?
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 14:48:44 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, San Francisco
Sound like the boys are rockin the house in NYC.
I'm getting so pumped for the LA shows with every visit to the dandom.
Alas, I doubt the decibel and excitement levels will equal NYC. LA has a well deserved reputation for its laid back attitude. Even the Tom Petty crowd at the Irvine show a bit back was way less enthusiastic than the next day at Outside Lands here in SF.
But I'll take it where I can get it.
Now, if they would only add Rikki to the set list, then the trifecta would be complete (Do It Again, 72's Reelin, Rikki).
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 14:26:31 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
"They should be aware that a post graduate degree and a pension for prose does not, necessarily, a good listener make..."
"Pension"? Penchant, perhaps?
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 14:12:21 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Lisa G -
Absolutely right on w/ o assessment of KC. You want to name a terrific "swing" drummer, Mel Lewis, was just about the best. He stayed the f*** out of the way of the band! He "steered" it/"directed" it masterfully.
Also, another great drummer who plods along on "swing" grooves is Steve Gadd (esp.listen to anything on Sinatra's LP/CD "LA is My Lady") - way too heavy on the bass drum(constantly "booms" all 4 beats) and his touch/fills are also very heavy - there's no lilt/lift to his "swing" time.
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 13:16:41 ET
Posted by: LisaG, Culver City California, 90230
"They should be aware that a post graduate degree and a pension for prose does not, necessarily, a good listener make..."
I didn't know people got pensions for their writing. And folks say the government doesn't do anything for us. :-P
Does one need a degree in music to feel confident about what they say regarding music?
I have been tough on Carlock on here and have gotten beaten down for it (no pun intended), but I've played with enough drummers to understand the difference between crafting a part in the tapestry and just playing licks and grooves. The ultimate drummer uses a kit as a chef controls the heat and ingredients when making a souffle. Carlock has skills--I just don't see him as the consummate drummer. He nails Two Against Nature to the floor with raw appeal. Rock/funk grooves seem to be his forte. However he swung like a brick on a metal pole in "Teenie's Blues." Not a high point in this show for him, but I suppose he can be forgiven since that was not the genre they hired him for. Too bad since he is purported to have attained accolades for his work playing straight ahead.
We can go on and on about the drum greats SD have employed in the past, but they're not gonna tour with them. The creative drummer is the one who can bring a new life into the song all the while laying down an honest and respectful feel for the style. I can say that Kid Carlock is slowly coming into his own--perhaps working with Washington has opened him up a bit more to be sensitive within the frame. Was Saturday night's performance among his first of Dr. Wu? Perhaps he is trying to work it out in order to make it his own, which...despite what might offend a few posters on a message board...is his prerogative.
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 12:22:19 ET
Posted by: Mme. Erzulie, no Tweets allowed
Check this "blog" out....you may want to add a comment or two, I did, though I don't know whether the blogger will approve it's content.
http://burnwoodtonite.blogspot.com/2009/08/nothing-but-blues-and-elvisand-some.html
M.E.
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 11:00:50 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
Please dr. fine don't confuse matters with the facts. Can't you see how hard I'm trying? I only used 1 epithet in the 1st paragraph, and it wasn't aimed at anyone I know.
Ass an assside sandwich, I have a loose penchant for thinking of meat things to eat.
It sounds like I'm congratulating myself, butt I still am. Deserving.
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 10:05:26 ET
Posted by: Beacon Attendee, east
Chris,
As much energy as you perceive to be sucked out when Walt takes vocals. For me, it's like the pitcher taking his at bat. You're just glad he's been cleared and hope you can get a rally going with the top of the order.
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 09:56:33 ET
Posted by: Janie Runaway, NY
Chris,
None -- this year's audiences are the best ever. They're even embracing Walter - hell, if you love Steely Dan, you gotta love Walter and these crowds do!! I've never seen anything like it but everyone seems to be getting what they came for and leaving happy. I guess it's because they've really thrown in some of the crowd-pleasers this year like RITY and Do It Again.
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 09:36:01 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
re: last's night's show: how much energy was sucked out of the audience when they followed up Josie with Walt's Daddy Don't?
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 09:34:17 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Thanks to everyone who has been communicating the setlists.
Joey, I hate to admit it, but I'm starting to enjoy your posts.
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 09:20:11 ET
Posted by: Dr Fine,
As an aside, I find many Dr Demento to be judgemental of other people, condescending and the kind of person who clears a party. He should be aware that we are here as friends, expressing our fondness for our favorite band. Using compound sentences and passing intimidating judgements, Dr Demento has become the equivalent of a playground bully who has an overdeveloped sense of self-righteousness and arrogance.
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 07:48:49 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
doc mu - from one physician of sorts to another, nice summation of the nuances of the late, great JP on Wu. I believe one of the things that elevated JP to superstar status (and unfortunately for young KC...he continues to stay young IMO as I really haven't heard any substantive improvement on his part over the last decade) is a firm understanding of latin drumming (Joe was a decent-enough conga player so JP would have heard a good bit of that growing up; too bad Joe was an asshole of a father). The half-note ride (on 1 and 3 as it were) is sublime and the ride itself is worthy of comment (as is the almost splash crash ala Guerin's hi hats) which I would guage as K's that Joe collected from somewhere. You neglected to mention, though, that big beefy strike on every other 4th beat which is such a huge send-up to many latin tumbao's (can we say "genuis" in action).
As an aside, I find many of the posters here a bit too self-congratulating in terms of their musical understandings (legends in their own minds?). They should be aware that a post graduate degree and a pension for prose does not, necessarily, a good listener make (that guy from Iowa is a shining example...I would guage he's had a few too many "loose meat sandwiches").
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 06:07:23 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Thank you Margaret for your play by play and commentary. I need to figure out all this Twitter and Tweeter and Twatter sometime. Naw, screw it, it all seems twitty to me at this point.
Joey, my joy, I return your nuzzles with great affection as always. Your freedom from conventional inhibitions continues to astound and gratify. But I wish I had a young forehead, or a young anything for that matter, no, the Expanding Rajah has an ever-expanding forehead. This Turban does come in handy for that at least.
Hugh McCracken indeed does not get the props he deserves on here. The fate of a rhythm guitarist, I suppose. He's always way way back in the mix on record, accent and texture are what he brings. Walter has praised him for his, "voicings," which I take to mean, help me out here you guitar experts, the way he chooses to place his fingers on a chord, augmenting and diminishing, the little changes he makes to chords that only someone like him can do so smoothly. He saved that Macca, "Ram," record single-handedly and wasn't that him on John Lennon's, "And So This is Christmas?" I think so.
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 01:38:49 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Hoops, Girl M., and SF: Tks for the danged-near instant comm. tonight. Another great show-- wished I was there.
Girl, if you don't mind, were you able to make one or more requests for last Saturday night? Were you surprised at the result?
A.V.: Caught part of FA today and tried to apply what I was hearing (function of TicketsNow et.al., I guess) to RP'09 and how folks could spend as much as they'd like. I haven't followed your links yet, but I found that this:
d7.allthingsd.com/.../d7-ticketmaster-entertainment-ceo-irving-azoff/
is some interesting reading that doesn't really clear much up except that maybe some people don't say what their wallet means. Or maybe it's the inverse.
Turn up the Eagles because El Jefe says to.
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 00:28:45 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Home from the Beacon
Just a few quick notes on tonight's Beacon show:
Number one, I don't Twitter. I just can't bring myself to get on that bandwagon. I went old school and texted the sets to Hoops and he twatted, twittered, whatever it is. But I'm always happy to help with the set lists!
Number two, I've been to a majillion shows at the Beacon Theater, most of them Steely Dan, and tonights show had the best SD Beacon Theater audience I've ever seen. I've mentioned in the past that NY audiences don't always live up to the excitement of a crowd at, say, a Boston show, for example. You would think with New York being the "hometown" shows that the audience would be the most vibrant and exciting, but alas that's rarely the case, in my experience. But tonight, the crowd was on fucking fire. From the moment Black Cow started (loudest most excited reaction to that song I've ever heard EVER)til the band left the stage, it was truly incredible. I was blown way the hell away by it all. God love a joyous crowd on a Monday night!
Number three, to be perfectly honest, I wasn't sure that I'd be super thrilled about hearing Aja performed in it's entirety, especially because I just heard it two nights ago. Aja was always my fave Dan album for a long time, primarily because it was the first non-greatest hits SD album I'd ever heard, and also the first SD on vinyl I'd ever heard. It was the album that encouraged me to explore beyond the greatest hits and made me the lunatic that I am today. But I digress. I've heard the album umpteen hundred times and have heard most of the album live umpteen hundred times, and frankly I didn't think I'd be excited to hear it again. Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy to hear anything, but after so many concerts even the most outrageous of Danfans can tend to grow weary of one or two particular songs. But tonight, maybe it was the crowd, or maybe it was something that set off a well of memories for me going back to the first time I ever heard the Aja album, but I enjoyed every moment they played the album. The whole set sounded so perfect, the audience was going apeshit after every number and hootin' and hollerin' after every solo, it was pretty intense. And by the way, Donald was sounding pretty spot on tonight. His voice was not 100% on Saturday but he sounded MUCH much better tonight. And it was nice to hear more melodica!
Absolutely fantastic show. Thanks to my traveling companion SF for being my date for the evening!
Date: Tues, August 04, 2009, 00:00:36 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, not nyc
It's all THANKS TO MARGARET!
No Margaret, no tweets, no set lists, no nuttin'!
Gotta run!
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 23:50:47 ET
Posted by: A.V., ...
Just following up from earlier, today on NPR's Fresh Air...
Scalping And Scarcity: The Economics Of Live Music
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111493538
For those who don't want to listen to the half hour, here's the transcript if you'd just like to skim it...
http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=111493538
John Seabrook is interviewed by Dave Davies (subbing for Terry Gross). The conversation is about Seabrook's piece in The New Yorker re live music and concert ticket sales. I thought it was an interesting half hour and it helped clarify some things for me about who establishes ticket prices and how, plus how things have changed with the aftermarket scalping sites on the internet.
Irving Azoff is mentioned briefly...
_________________
DAVIES: Now Ticketmaster still owns TicketsNow right?
Mr. SEABROOK: Ticketmaster still owns TicketsNow. The current CEO of Ticketmaster is Irving Azoff, was not the CEO when Ticketmaster bought TicketsNow. And he has made it clear that he would never have bought TicketsNow had he been the CEO. And he's also made it pretty clear that he'd like to sell it. And I wouldn't be surprised if you see Ticketmaster selling TicketsNow in the near future.
_________________
I imagine the show echoed a lot of what is in The New Yorker article, but I have no way of knowing.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 23:48:54 ET
Posted by: Major Dame, Capital
Thanks for the set-list posting, hoops!
Thanks Girl M for Twitting tonight.
(I don't like the word Twatting-just doesn't sound right)
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 23:34:51 ET
Posted by: Steve T., L.A.
Thanks for all the tweets, Margaret!
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 22:01:30 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" The sax solo by WW doesn't approach the Phil Woods turn, not surprising, WW is an accomplished pro in his own right and I don't think he's disposed to aping Phil Woods or anyone else. Plus I don't think Don is the kind of boss who would demand a replica of anyone else's solo from so long ago, no matter how famous. But that Phil Woods solo remains one of the finest attacking solos recorded, a little bebop, a little smoky 50s LA jazz. It was a happy thing, that solo, in contrast to the main theme of the song. A device they employed many times, their music so filled with irony and contrast, that certain something that just makes you shake your head and grin at what you're hearing. Clever and quirky. "
Oh, that is beautiful .
Rajah .....................
I would like to clutch you to me bosom and softly and gently and sweetly caress your young , glistening young Rajah forehead and just say , .. well , ... " Thanks " for being ....... well , ... you's !
The Joey , Est. 2002 and loved by everyone .
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 19:57:41 ET
Posted by: LisaG, Wu-ing
DocMu, not to mention the incredible underscoring during Phil Woods' solo--all those rolls and fills--glossy and ballsy all at the same time. Could be that the mix was drum-heavy, too.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 19:11:24 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Wu World
Weiskopf sounds fine on Wu. I just miss Porcaro's hi-hat ride, 1/2 note cymbal whacks in the chorus instead of the quarter notes, the counter-ride toms, and yet another kind of semi-shuffle. He runs it against and with the rhythms set up by piano and bass. Easiest to hear on the KL Wu outtake, alternate take. The man could fill and groove at the same time like no one else, even the great Pretty Purdie. Carlock's great, but falls in luv with the snare metronome a bit.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 18:30:28 ET
Posted by: LisaG, Same
Almost forgot...
GREAT SEEING EVERYONE AT THE SHOW SATURDAY.
THE best people are Danfans. Will shout out to you all shortly--gotta make dinner. Meanwhile, keep the reviews coming.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 18:28:55 ET
Posted by: LisaG, Home @ Dinner
Lurker Ray, I hear you and was a bit skeptical about the entirety of Aja, but it was quite enjoyable for me, despite the fact that I've heard just about every tune from that album played live in the past. Still, LC DID add something even though he did not solo on anything Aja. Remember, he did play on the album.
Nonetheless, I was quite pleased with the result and was glad they kicked in Wu and Major Dude for us. Still waiting to hear Boston Rag, but no can do.
BTW, Catherine Russell is a goddess and really should never be singing back-ups as she is solo material. She should have done Dirty Work all by herself--this chick is that good, and I'm a huge Carolyn Leonhart fan. But Ms. Russell is quite extraordinary--props to her.
Sorry for those who called Wu lackluster. First off, Weiskopf kicked ASS making the solo his own. For those of you who want Phil Woods' version, you might want to just sit at home and play the album. Wu started off a little slow-paced, but the chorus "turned the light on." There was love and reverence in that performance. I hope they bring it back with a real horn chart so that Rosenberg doesn't look at his watch anymore. :-P
Regarding Fagen's vocal ills, the man is a master performer. He worked around the problem offering some of the freshest phrasing I've heard him do live. I was actually kind of happy about it, although he really shouldn't be drinking Coke in his vocal condition. The caffeine is not a good thing. Still and all, Herington and Carlton were wonderful. LC is the consummate performer knowing when to kick it into overdrive and when to lay down the groove. His solos were among the finest in the band: well-crafted, elegant, dirty when necessary, and just plain inspired.
Didn't hear enough of Jim Beard. Becker's solos were tastier than usual--he seemed thrilled to have LC there, as did Herington.
The horns were clean and hot. I even loved Keith Carlock in just about everything, and I've been one of his biggest critics. Yeah, I always knew the boy could play (understatement), but he showed a strong maturity that night--not blowing his load like it's so easy to do with his chops. His restraint and sensitivity was appreciated. And what else can I say about Ready Freddie Washington. BS was infectious and Josie was in the pocket. I count myself lucky to have heard that concert, Aja or no Aja. The band was kick-ass--more than usual.
I attempted to write a review for ticketmaster--should be up in 72 hours. There is a handful of bad reviews from previous concerts on there, but for the most part, the tour is getting 4.5 stars out of 5. Most of the bad reviews seemed to be from people who know squat about anything halfway decent in a musical sense.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 17:51:51 ET
Posted by: KD, oll
J Goodman -- Couldn't tell you, but with a new batch of modern (bending notes) technology available to him, it would make sense that he would try to cop one of the more famous bent notes in rock history -- thinking of Berry bending a D note on the G string up to E, then matching that E with a fretted E on the B string.
A lot of Donald's keytar stuff, especially from the early 90s on stage, reminded me of guitar bends.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 16:39:53 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the quick, back in chicago
Here's the Twitter crawl from the past two shows including the setlist.
• See U this evening at the Danfest hosted by SueDave@AmstrdmAleHse@5:30. Setlists as B4. (I 3 days ago
• http://twitpic.com/cb30b 2 days ago
• http://twitpic.com/cb4mk 2 days ago
• http://twitpic.com/cb4vc 2 days ago
• http://twitpic.com/cb51f 2 days ago
• http://twitpic.com/cb5a4 2 days ago
• LWO during Three picture deal. http://twitpic.com/cbasq 2 days ago
• Got SD? http://twitpic.com/cbcn3 2 days ago
• http://twitpic.com/cbfls 2 days ago
• T http://twitpic.com/cbg1u 2 days ago
• I hope I get a signal in the theatre! 2 days ago
• Lts going dn. Strating. Crped wild 2 days ago
(Begin 7/31/09 setlist)
• Crowd very wild!!! Teeny's Blues. 2 days ago
• Kid C. Carolyn sets needle on LP. LC on stage too nxt to Jon Harington. 2 days ago
• Carlton solo on Kid C. Great aroma in the audienfe. Too. 2 days ago
• LC to rt of speaker banks http://twitpic.com/cbjfr 2 days ago
• Caves 2 days ago
• Crowd wild. Many standing. Dont take me alive. Three guitarists, of course! Amazing. 2 days ago
• LC solo on dtma 2 days ago
• SIS. LC plays licks at end. LC DF WB all leve stage for Fez. Girls sing. 2 days ago
• Carolyn flips LP. Gr Earrings. Great guitars esp Jon. Haitian with DF on lead vox. 2 days ago
• Evry Thing u did w solo by LC. Roy Scam w great guir by LC. 2 days ago
• Standind ovation after roy scam. DF intros Lc. Dancing crowd for Hey 19. Daddy don't live nyc w WB vox 2 days ago
• Aja. Carlock a monster!!! Band intros. Blk Fri with great LC solo at end. Home@Last. 2 days ago
• Great WB guitr solo on h@L. Pkrs Bnd. Girls also on Itchin my hrt. WB starts talkin. Grls introd along with band. LC introd as "New Guy" 2 days ago
• DF introd w melodica. Jim Beard does bar room classical intro to Josie. 2 days ago
• LC solo on Josie. Third World Man with all LC guitar parts from original. My Old School. 2 days ago
• Stand ovation wild crowd aftr "School". Encore Pretzl Logic w LC solo amazing. 2 days ago
• LC & Jon 72 Reelin 2 days ago
• Even Jon & Larry seem amazef at their great Reelin solos. Last Tango. Show over. HOT show!!!! 2 days ago
• After show w Brent. W who has been w Dandom since the beginning in 1993. http://twitpic.com/cc1f9 2 days ago
(End of Friday, 7/31/09 show)
• 38th west of Fifth Ave http://twitpic.com/cemxg 2 days ago
• http://twitpic.com/cg3fp 1 day ago
• http://twitpic.com/cg47d 1 day ago
• http://twitpic.com/cg6hu 1 day ago
• http://twitpic.com/cg6tr 1 day ago
• http://twitpic.com/cg7b3 1 day ago
• http://twitpic.com/cg7u1 1 day ago
(Begin 8/1/09 setlist)
• Teeny's 1 day ago
• Blk cow 1 day ago
• Aja. LC entered w WB & DF at the bginning of Blk Cow. 1 day ago
• DF on melodica for Aja 1 day ago
• Deacon Blues 1 day ago
• Carolyn flips record. Peg. 1 day ago
• Jon solos great on Peg Home at last 1 day ago
• Awesome H@L solos by WB. IGotNews. 1 day ago
• Josie w LC solo. Standing Ovation DF a little pony. Kid C 1 day ago
• Kid C. LC gets stand O. Hey 19. 1 day ago
• H19: wb solo. LC & Pugh trade licks. 1 day ago
• Dirty wk w ladiesThey have never sounded bettr. ML trumpt solo. Best DW ever. A real hilite. Rikki. 1 day ago
• U guessed it. LC solo on Rikki. 1 day ago
• Blk Fri with great solos by alll 3 guitarists but Jon's most blistering. Daddy dont luve in that NYC no mo. 1 day ago
• WB on Daddy vox of course. 1 day ago
• WB guitr solo on Daddy. Kicks ass 1 day ago
• Babylon Sistrs 1 day ago
• Any major dude will tell you. 1 day ago
• Jon major dude solo 1 day ago
• FM 1 day ago
• Love is like an itchin in my heart. Band intros. 1 day ago
• DR. WU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 day ago
• Walt W solo on Wu. The crowd has been singing aling a lot the whole nite. 1 day ago
• Dont take me alive w LC on lead guitr. 1 day ago
• Reelin w Jon on searimg lead guitr. 1 day ago
• LC & Jon guitars together 1 day ago
• LC solo at end of reelin 1 day ago
• Reelin 72 version. Crowd nuts 1 day ago
• Encore; my ol school 1 day ago
• Last tango df, wb & LC walk off as band plays & ligjts come on 1 day ago
(End of Saturday, 8/1/09 show)
• http://twitpic.com/cgwnf 1 day ago
• http://twitpic.com/cgxhr 1 day ago
• http://twitpic.com/cgxp8 1 day ago
• Tonite's setlist presented by Ed http://twitpic.com/cgxt6 1 day ago
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 16:00:01 ET
Posted by: dame it, not asleep
Setlist august 4: aja album-gaucho album- do it again-bodi-reelin
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 15:11:14 ET
Posted by: Major Dame, Capital
Hello folks.
So seems as though there is no July 31 set-list post or one of them is missing at least. We got the August 1 and I think the July 28.
Anyone help out in this regard.
Then can someone please post the
set-list for tonight and tomorrow please and thank you.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 15:01:25 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Nice youtube of Peg from saturday night's show.....even has a couple of good shots of Donald's kleenex box right next to his coke can :-)
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 14:18:22 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
Aerial View -- Thanks for the heads up. This week's copy of the New Yorker is sitting in my mailbox, and I'm looking forward to reading the article. Sounds like another example of corporate America doing everything it can to put the screws to you and me.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 14:06:49 ET
Posted by: Aerial View, Up there somewhere
On today's Fresh Air with Terry Gross one of the stories will be...
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With the record business decimated by illegal downloading, the live concert represents the ailing music industry's biggest source of revenue.
But as journalist John Seabrook reports in The New Yorker, the live concert business has yet to reconcile two competing sides of its identity. For the world's leading concert promoter and ticket seller — LiveNation and Ticketmaster, respectively — a concert is a moneymaking venture. For diehard fans of top-grossing touring artists like Bruce Springsteen and U2, it's a unique experience of "instant cousinship" with other fans (as one pioneering promoter puts it).
Meanwhile, Internet scalping on sites like TicketNow and StubHub has drastically changed the the economics of concert-going, pushing the market prices of tickets much higher than artists and managers sometimes set them.
The live music industry has grown over the past 40 years from a predominantly local business run by individual regional promoters to one almost entirely dominated by LiveNation and Ticketmaster. In early 2009, the Wall Street Journal reported that the two companies were preparing to merge, a move that would have consolidated the whole business under the roof of one corporate monolith.
Around the same time, controversy erupted, reaching as high as the U.S. Senate, when tens of thousands of Springsteen fans who logged on to Ticketmaster in February to purchase tickets for a May arena concert were diverted to the scalping site TicketsNow — which Ticketmaster owns.
Ticketmaster blamed the episode on a software glitch, but the fact that the ticket-seller stood to gain from the higher prices on offer at TicketsNow was not lost on the thousands of Springsteen fans who complained to the New Jersey Division of Consumer Affairs. The scandal underlined the problems facing the live music industry and the difficulty of finding a solution.
John Seabrook joins Fresh Air to talk about some of the possibilities. Seabrook has been a staff writer at "The New Yorker" since 1993. He is the author of Deeper: My Two-Year Odyssey in Cyberspace and Nobrow: The Culture of Marketing, the Marketing of Culture.
______________
Scalping And Scarcity: The Economics Of Live Music
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111493538
(Audio should be available on the web at approximately 5 PM ET.)
______________
I'm not a New Yorker subscriber, but if anyone is they may be able to view Seabrook's related New Yorker article...
"The Price of the Ticket," The New Yorker, August 10, 2009, p. 34
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/08/10/090810fa_fact_seabrook
From the abstract for the New Yorker piece:
Writer interviews independent promoter John Scher, who believes that the concert business was never right for consolidation. He also interviews IRVING AZOFF, the C.E.O. of Ticketmaster Entertainment. Azoff suggests that a dynamic pricing system, in which prices would fluctuate with demand, might be the future of concert ticketing.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 13:44:55 ET
Posted by: Koo Brick, Full Metal Leg Jacket
The plot: Duo heads on road trip from playing local bar in Cali to finding success as Motown sensations. Along the way they pick up various hitchhikers who all happen to be musicians. One, let's call him Rick E. Wants to go to Nashville and become a country star. When he is dropped off DF gives him the bus' mobile # and tells Rick if he ever changes his mind to call. WB yells out the bus to Rick-keep that number in a safe place, don't lose that number Rick E. As the bus fills up with 14 h'hers "We're gonna need a bigger bus" becomes not only a continuing routine but a national catchphrase. Audiences across America all screaming this in unison throughout the flick especially when one thumb sticking up on the highway straggler is carrying a tuba!! "We're Gonna Need A Bigger Bus!!" Having no direction skills the bus goes on a journey throughout the states yielding themes/songtitles along the way. A gas station attendant/drummer from.Boston wipes down the oil dipstick with his pink rag; a prominant CNN anchor/ukele player has the news, etc By the time the duo gets to Motown there are 83 musicians packed like sardines and rolling out like circus clowns in a classic VW beetle scene. Accordian players, glockenspielists harp and triangle wanna be's all have one thing in common. To play the half time show at the Super Bowl-no wait to be Motown heroes. Yaaaaa...
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 13:14:53 ET
Posted by: DeaconJay, Connecticut
I know I'm a little late here but am I the only one who thought the 07/31/09 Royal Scam concert in New York was... literally a Royal SCAM for the amount of money that I paid? I know D.Fagen still had a cold and all but wow.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 11:55:00 ET
Posted by: J. Goodman,
KD -
Wow, I nnever really thought of that as being a rip from a CB guitar lick. But you could be right. Do you think J. Hammer interpreted it that way?
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 10:33:08 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
driverseven,
I'm not trying to be picky, or pricky, here. But the "5 minute warmup" you referred to, is the very fine Teenie's Blues, an Oliver Nelson song off his most excellent album, The Blues and the Abstract Truth. Don and Walt aren't involved in playing this tune, and since it is an instrumental, neither is the babe choir.
While it isn't a Steely Dan tune, the band is top notch and does a great job with this terrific tune. IMO, it is something you want to be in place for, and as attentive as you would be once The Boys come onstage.
I'm not suggesting you meant it this way, but "5-minute warmup" might be interpreted as something not very worthy of our attention or interest. IMO, this is no blow-off tune.
Along the same lines, the "warmup" band for most of the US stops has been the very fine Sam Yahel and Friends. I believe this is the third year Sam has opened for The Dan. A very nice treat. I recommend concert attendees get there in time to enjoy these fine musicians.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 09:33:50 ET
Posted by: Dangential Trivia, Wherever
Came across a Free Dictionary piece about "Danites" and then got sidetracked to one about the Tribe of Dan in which I find...
"In the Biblical census of the >>Book of Numbers<<, the tribe of Dan is portrayed as the largest Israelite tribe."
Danite FD article:
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Danite
Tribe of Dan FD article:
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Tribe+of+Dan
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 09:32:18 ET
Posted by: driverseven,
Gold Teeth: I was there Saturday night at Beacon and what others said was accurate. The warmup was onstage promptly by and were done by 8:30. The SD band was playing by 8:45. )The band did a 5-minute warmup before Becker and Fagen made their entrance, by the way)
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 08:44:02 ET
Posted by: Gold Teeth, PA
I've seen some conflicting info in previous posts concerning start times in NYC. Can someone please advise when SD has been taking the stage at the Beacon?....much appreciated
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 08:34:01 ET
Posted by: Hoarse and buggy, 2
re: Don's voice. The rescheduled Gaucho will make it shows on three consecutive nights. I hope he's losing the AC at night and using a dehumidifier.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 08:26:29 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, in the studio
Canadian Dan: been wondering that myself recently, there a whole load of others that go virtually 'unnoticed', guitarists, bassists and keyboard players alike.
Dave - yeah, rather than a road movie, a Steely Dan cartoon might work, like the Simpsons, but set in a recording studio – we'd be sitting pretty with the sales from merchandising alone: 'CAN Buy A Thrill' condoms, 'Fire In The Hole' Chili Sauce, 'Your Gold Teeth' toothpaste, 'Haitian Divorce' papers, 'Pretzel Logic' hot-dogs (for lateral consumers only), 'Through With Buzz' mosquito repellent, 'Lunch With Gina' vouchers, 'Cousin Dupree' restraining orders, 'Peg' legs, 'Godwhacker' bible belts...
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 08:11:17 ET
Posted by: Canadian Dan, Ontario
To take the topic away from the tour for a moment, I was wandering if there has been any discussions ever in the blue book regarding Hugh McCraken. He obviously is a huge part of the Steely Dan sound and has played guitar on the majority of albums dating back to Katy lied right up to EMG. Everyone rant's and raves about the Larry Carlton's and the Steve Gadds for their contributions, but I have never heard of Hugh getting his prop's.Glad everyone is enjoying the tour and I can't wait for Detroit.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 07:30:39 ET
Posted by: dave from ........etc, office
Running with your previous Monkees/Beatles plotline.
Don and Walt road movie, they are scouring the country (with Denny Diaz) in the old Partridge Family bus , seeking out musicians for a new TV show.
They've roughly painted "Denny and the Jazz Chops" over the previous artwork on the vehicle.
I'm seeing Jeff Golblum as a young Donald , the Becker role is up for grabs but Jack Black IS Denny Diaz.
(Note to self .. This could be a Saturday morning cartoon with a big deal in merchandise
e.g. My Old School pencil case , Black Cow cocktail shaker , Aja lunch box)
Ha ha I kill me!!
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 07:24:58 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, post-production
Dave - the movie is taking shape – and just I was thinking we're gonna need a solid director at the helm, someone mentions Levon Helm (which is an anagram of Levon Mleh); Michael Winner wants in, but he's already talking about scenes where Don & Walt's bus breaks down on a deserted country lane, and they are then set about by semi-naked demonic nuns who appear out of the woods covered with layers of white worms, or something to that special effect.. So Winner is out, we've go to keep within the PEG viewing guidelines (Parental Ecclesiastical Guidance)...so I'm hoping Rajah can get in touch with Bill Friedkin to direct, much safer, and he could probably use the piasters anyway so we're within budget..
I'm thinking we can add a touch of time travel à là 'Highlander', where we see a young McDonald with his friend McWalter (on harpsichord & lute respectively), entertaining locals in a small hamlet in period costume. Period. Flash forward to today, or yesteryear (when is that exactly?), either way it's funny coz Don & Walt suddenly find themselves in the middle of Times Square dressed in tights & striped puffy britches, then a passerby (played by a passerby) stops and says “you must be joking son, where DID you get those shoo-ooo-zzz”... Don & Walt exchange shocked glances (the exchanged glance thing will feature heavily throughout the entire movie) they bolt along 42nd St towards the Port Authority Bus Terminal (film speeded up here), board the bus with destination P'keepsie (Poughkeepsie being too long to fit in the destination window: they once tried widening the buses to fit the destination names, but it was causing gridlock before they'd even left the terminal) then our heroes throw themselves down exhausted into seats right at the back of the bus (they're young remember) and try to catch their breath. Then a Keith Jarrett look-alike (played by Keith Jarrett) boards the bus, wearing MP3 headphones. He takes his seat just in front Don & Walt, proceeds to turn up the Eagles but due to Jarrett's grunting (unscripted) which almost drowns out the cacophony inside the terminal, the boys can only hear snippets and the odd word...'stab'.. 'steely' ..'kill the beast'... they exchange terrified glances, freeze frame and....cut! It's a wrap!
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 06:43:50 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Thanks for the Dr. Wu clip, the snippet there is somewhat problematical for a few reasons, first Donald is hoarse as a goat and probably shouldn't be singing at all. Next the chorus sounded like a dirge instead of the windsong that it should be. It needs to lift off, not drag. The sax solo by WW doesn't approach the Phil Woods turn, not surprising, WW is an accomplished pro in his own right and I don't think he's disposed to aping Phil Woods or anyone else. Plus I don't think Don is the kind of boss who would demand a replica of anyone else's solo from so long ago, no matter how famous. But that Phil Woods solo remains one of the finest attacking solos recorded, a little bebop, a little smoky 50s LA jazz. It was a happy thing, that solo, in contrast to the main theme of the song. A device they employed many times, their music so filled with irony and contrast, that certain something that just makes you shake your head and grin at what you're hearing. Clever and quirky.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 05:26:09 ET
Posted by: KD, oll
J Goodman- that's essentially Don playing a guitar lick (Berry-esque) on the keytar, I hardly think it's a Hammer staple.
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 04:30:51 ET
Posted by: dave from ........etc, office
Biffster, the thought of our Don behind the wheel of a London bus made me chortle aloud.
It would have to be filmed in a studio with one of those continuous rolls of fake scenery in the background and stagehands just out of shot throwing newspapers using a wind machine.
One of them catches Don square in the kisser he untangles it and reads the headline "Josie Comes Home"
He yells back to Walt "Hang on tight Becker, we gotta date"
Dolly back fade to black .......so on and so forth.
They arrive in Poughskeepie (for no reason other than I like saying that name).
A one-armed Spencer Tracy passes them going in the opposite direction driving a US Army surplus jeep.
Don and Walt exchange knowing yet ironic glances.
The opening chords of Black Friday can be heard from a nearby bar/saloon.
(Question : Who designs saloon fixtures and fittings it's never built to last)
Over to you
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009, 00:12:12 ET
Posted by: seth2112, cleveland, via nyc and tamp
it is official:
your gold teeth part 2 has taken over dr. wu as "when they hell are the gonna play your gold teeth part 2?"
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 23:50:05 ET
Posted by: Paul Griffin,
Donald said somewhere that they gave Paul Griffin a co-writing credit because the counter melody Paul created sounded so familiar Fagen thought it was lifted from somewhere, they just couldn't place it, and wanted Paul to share in any possible lawsuit.
I thought I also read that it was Keith Jarrett's publishers who sued and that Keith had no strong personal interest in it.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 23:21:34 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu, Running Next Door
It HAS to be a "favor" DB16
why else would you leave Larry
playing his Mel Bay Charts for
nearly an hour.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 23:08:06 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Lurker Ray:
To me, it seems that you are saying that it was more upsetting to the folks who went to the Aja night than it was who went to the Internet Request night. They "requesters" get the best of both worlds, and the Aja concert-goers could have gotten the same thing but better (depending on the individual) at the request night show. I see your point. But I just don't think it's that big of a deal, and I doubt that the Aja concert-goers really care that much. Do you really think that the majority of attendees even read this forum or avidly search for setlists? As always, I could be wrong; these are just my thoughts.
I suppose Aja could have been done as a favor to someone.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 23:01:56 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
MK, so like a "Love IS"
cartoon, "you're smooth down
there". Yeah, that must
REALLY suck.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 22:45:16 ET
Posted by: Malibu Ken, Barbie's Beach House
Ray--
Why are you getting yourself all lathered up about this particular show? Everyone on the Blue knows that the greatest Steely Dan shows of all time are the ones that you happen to attend...You remind us of this fact annually (Soboba, anyone?) so why should this particular show be any different? D & W were merely testing the waters at the Beacon on Saturday night with that Aja stunt so as to gauge your personal reaction and then fine-tune their plans for LA and El Ray...This will ensure that the show you have tickets for will, once again, be the greatest of this tour and will rank right up there with the most prolific in the history of the band--according to you...
MK
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 22:35:03 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Okay, one last time, then I have
to run to a "clambake". DB16 &
ProReuben I am going to break this
down into "Frankenstein Marketing".
You know the scene, between the
monster & the old man? Frankie does
not the like the fire (Fire = BAD!),
but he likes the cigar once it is lit,
(Smoke = Good!)
They were not going to play "RS" in
Boston, so the night they did, it was
an added treat,(Smoke = Good!)
Donald & Walter are already on record as
to say that actually "RS" turned out to
be the biggest draw this tour, "who knew"?!
(Smoke=Good!) Actually, "Aja" & "Gaucho"
are the two hardest sellers. So you have
two "Aja Nights" in NYC. Joe Consumer,
can only afford to see one show, This is
Way before Larry was even announced, he HAS
to see "Aja" night. That is HIS night.
But maybe he also really wants to see "Internet
Request Night", but D&W Inc has assured him
that ONLY the "Aja" nights will you be able to
see "Aja" in it's entirety. (AJA = GOOD!)
These are set aside, "AJA Nights" get the sitter,
we only have two nights that they will play
"Aja". Is this jackass marketing and a slap in
the face to the fans that "Aja Night = Aja Night"?
Steely Dan = BAD! Nope. This totally goes against
any good marketing judgement. It must of been
someone "close to D&W" that asked them to do "Aja"
in it's entirety last night as a favor. You take
up nearly an hour of the show without Larry Carlton,
that has to be a "favor".
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 22:32:12 ET
Posted by: Mark&MArie, NJ
Re: the Dr. Wu clip on YouTube. Jesus, that was awful. I could have done a better job on the sax solo (and I'm strictly keyboards and guitar). It's like knowing that there was no way to even approach the Woods version, so why bother trying. Very disappointing.
Well, didn't want to be the first on the board, but the prior post is right. At times, Dr. Wu, was wonderful, and at other times, awful. I guess DF was right! The sax solo and drum solo just didn't work at all. Sorry Dan Fans. Dr. Wu has been overhyped here. Maybe with a little more work..........
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 21:42:42 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
L Ray from West of LA: I agree with you about how a body might feel not getting a full dose of 335 (that's his axe, right?) until halfway through the show, but LC was announced as coming on board on the 22th of July which certainly would spike my tkt sale, but isn't it possible that many people might have voted for an entire Aja set before they knew he would be there? LC aside, I've given up on being surprised at the lack of set variation from show to show or in consecutive towns on consecutive nights. I did imagine the request deal to deliver a variation which it has, if only sort of. But like my wife said, 'Don't you imagine B&F are ticket holders?' To which I had to reply, "Yeah, I guess at one time, they held all the tickets."
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 21:05:34 ET
Posted by: doc Kelly, here at the midwestern world dude ranch
P.Reuben: Please accept my apologies for missing the Minneapolis pre-Morph-phest. Arriving somewhat tardy we ended up within walking distance of the venue at a great steak place with a piano jazz trio that started the evening off in a most excellent manner. At this point it appears I will be traveling to Memphis alone so I am looking forward to pre/post show gatherings.
Da Biff: Get that screenplay going... our dynamic duo's discography is full of bus-trip chapters!!! If you can work it in then I'd love to see Josie and Peg personified!
The Allman Brothers Band is warming up for Widespread Panic on Wednesday night, Sept. 2nd, in Chicago. As it happens that is our boys night off in the midst of their 4-show Chicago stint. Hmmmmmm...
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 20:52:09 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Lurker Ray:
We are making two different arguments. You're saying that people would generally be upset that they did Aja, and I'm saying that they would be pleasantly surprised. Maybe all of the concert-goers to the Internet Request Night also went to the Aja show, but keep in mind how expensive tickets to these shows are. Based on that fact, I would say that the previous statement is probably untrue. So, if you didn't go to the Aja show, aren't you glad that you got to hear it live?
But they didn't vote for "Aja night" ... well that's true, but I'm certain that MOST of the songs on Aja received numerous votes. Personally, I would definitely vote for Deacon Blues and Black Cow, and I possibly would include Home At Last, Aja, and I Got the News. I wouldn't vote for Josie or Peg, but I have to imagine that those are pretty popular tunes voting-wise. So, even if I Got the News and Home At Last were not among the top twenty vote-getters, most of Aja probably was, and I doubt your sacrificing much by including the other two songs over whatever beat them out in the voting. If we've established that most of Aja was voted for, then it would be played throughout the set in random places anyway. Does it take the "novelty" off of the "Aja night" by playing it as the album? I suppose it does for those who attended/or are planning to attend one of the Aja shows. But what about those people who could only buy tickets or attend one of the shows? Maybe they really wanted to go to Aja but were tied up that night, or maybe they wanted to see Aja but also wanted to see Larry Carlton and were hoping to hear songs from Aja by voting for them. Those people probably would have been extremely happy about that.
Truthfully, neither of us know (well maybe you do, but I don't) how the majority of the crowd received the playing of Aja. From the few posts here however, most have complained more about the hoarseness of Donald Fagen's voice than the fact they played Aja. Let's also keep in mind that an MC came on before the show and specifically stated that they would play Aja. If people were unhappy about that, they could have left the show before it started (although I doubt anyone did). I gather that personally you would have been really upset, and that's understandable. But for the casual fan (which I think is the majority, and I also think a majority voted for Aja), do you think they really would be that disappointed?
Also, I'd like to point out that that the New York Internet Request Night was more similar to the Boston Internet Request Night (3 song difference excluding Dirty Water vs. Daddy) than it was to the New York Aja Night (5 song difference).
It might have been mildly disappointing to not hear Larry solo on any Aja songs, but like I said, I believe he got his licks in. For those fans who really were there for Larry, they should have gone (as I'm sure they did) to The Royal Scam night. Additionally, we don't know the details of what he was doing during the Aja segment of the show. He might not have been soloing, but that doesn't mean he wasn't doing anything cool. In some ways, it might have been better that he didn't play solos in Aja because that keeps the suspense up and then boom... Kid Charlemagne.
And I wasn't trying to make a point with asking you to predict what the twenty most popular songs chosen were. I was just merely curious as to what you or anyone else for that matter would assume are the most voted songs.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 20:43:31 ET
Posted by: Night by Night, Groovetime, NY
Any ideas on the setlist for Tuesday? Gaucho album plus? Was hoping true fans would deviate from the same tunes played every tour and move toward old (Rose Darling, YGTII, Brooklyn) and new classics (Pixeleen, some DF) not seen in awhile.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 20:28:25 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
Re: the Dr. Wu clip on YouTube. Jesus, that was awful. I could have done a better job on the sax solo (and I'm strictly keyboards and guitar). It's like knowing that there was no way to even approach the Woods version, so why bother trying. Very disappointing.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 20:02:22 ET
Posted by: Savoy Sides, NSS
I think the fact that they did Aja last night shows that doing albums is a crutch for Fagen. No talking for the first 45 minutes. Just play. Either that or it was advertising for subsequent album shows.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 19:55:13 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
It has nothing to do with "me"
picking a set list DB16. You
still don't get it. It's
about "Fan Voting". And no
fan voted for "Aja Night" last
night, especially if Larry is
not gonna spark a lick.
That's the simple truth. So
why not play some other tunes
that perhaps Larry could have
contributed to, instead of
"pushing" a "LARRYLESS" Aja on
a crowd that didn't "VOTE" for
it in the first place. Face it,
fans were voting on the top 20
some songs, not "Aja Played In
Order". That totally takes the
"luster" off the "Aja" nights.
And just dumb marketing.
Especially if Larry isn't going
to contribute to make it a
"Very Special Other Aja Night".
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 19:00:55 ET
Posted by: Extra-tangentially SD news, from TV-land
Since Donald has been known to join Levon Helm on stage now and then, I thought some of you just might be interested in this TV special airing during August on PBS in the USA:
Levon Helm Ramble At The Ryman.
Alas no Donald among the fine musicians on stage for this special recorded last year. Here's a clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVvlNJ4Kspc
/PGE
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 18:40:09 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
DaBi: There you gu ffawing me again. You know that song is "Kim Possible," not me.
And I know you stole the idea of the bus from that Jonie Mitchell song that WB produced. It starred cheech and Chong didn't it?
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 18:29:09 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, on location
Reuben: I wasn't trying to be funny! And with your own visceral insight, I'd say you're more of a qualified doctor than anyone else here. SD even have a song dedicated to you: 'Pick A Spleen'
Forward Girl: it could be a wrap...if I knew what 'initialisms' were?? Excuse my wrong-side-of-the-big-pond ignorance, but then there's also the Mediterranean to navigate: that's a lot of waterway to sail. Anyhoo, DF already texted me back tonight and he's up for it although he's a bit concerned about who his stand-ins might be during the obligatory fight scenes. So I said, well being the perfectionist you are maybe you ought to do your own stunts? He said he'll get back to me, but then as a ps he asked when shooting starts.. I already have a few working titles: 'Two With Nature', 'Jacks Of Speed', (they need work of course, hence the expression) and a crucial scene will be when they get to central station, to catch that early bus (which Don doesn't even know he's driving yet!), they'll be gassed, and runnin' every which way and ecstaticly just for us...
PGE: thanks for the support. As you've probably gathered the screenplay is pretty much in the (Hoops Mc)can, we're just putting the finishing touchès to some loquacious shots ..sorry, location shots.. with the unloquacious duo. I tell you what, people are already crawling out of the woodwork to get on board that bus; Roger Nichols demands to be the bus engineer, Michael McDonald has been pegged for a vocal harmony hop-on part as they hurtle down Broadway, Bernard Purdie is gonna intermittently shuffle on and off the bus until someone notices him, at one point Mark Knopfler is gonna be by the roadside with his guitar case thumbing a ride, but Donald will step on the gas an whizz right by him with a 'so-long sucker' wave, and we'll then cut to a shot of Knopfler alone, thumb still raised, his few strands of hair waving in the bus's slipstream...then we'll see Donald looking full on into the camera and with a shake of the head mouthing 'hah,.. gaucho'... I've got a screenplay to finish..
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 18:22:41 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Man, I wish the boys at Price Waterhouse had plotted out this internet request thing for us 46 or 47 days ago.
Does anyone out there know anyone who might have purchased tickets for request nights in each of the four cities who might tell us the whys, wherefores, mechanism, and timeline for this wonderful, mysterious fan voting magilla?
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 18:10:28 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Ray, I posted before you wrote your second post, but here's my response.
Well, didn't Keith Jarrett sue them to get a co-writing credit and they gave Paul Griffin a writing credit on his own merit? It could be that they really felt they wrote Gaucho even with Keith Jarrett listed as a co-writer, but they aren't as comfortable with saying they wrote The Fez. Like I said, it's not that great of a hypothesis (especially since Becker, I believe, is credited with the original guitar solo), but it's all I have.
How's this for a conspiracy though? Since we don't actually know the exact details of the writing of The Fez, maybe Paul Griffin actually wrote the lyrics. I mean I know he said something to the effect that he recognized a piece of classical music in the original composition, and he changed it up. But maybe Becker and Fagen told him to say that to cover up for him writing the lyrics. After all, he did sing "scat" vocals in Peg (didn't he?), and The Fez is not one of Steely Dan's deepest lyrical pieces. Like I said, though, that's a complete conspiracy and am just putting it out there for mild entertainment purposes.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 18:09:31 ET
Posted by: Finally, Dr Wu
Dr. Wu on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbVALZuQbXA
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 17:59:28 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Lurker Ray:
I can't disagree with you about I Got the News, but I also don't think The Royal Scam is the type of song that would get the a ton of votes. Of course, we know how messed up the Boston voting was though. Still, someone posted in a review of the show that an announcer came on before Steely Dan took the stage and told the audience that they were going to play Aja in its original form because its songs received a lot of votes. Do you think there was cheering or booing? Maybe a few people were upset, but I bet the majority were happy. It's somewhat similar to the situation in Boston where they played The Royal Scam the same night as Aja. Most of those ticket-holders probably didn't have tickets to one of "The Royal Scam setlist nights," (yes I realize that they weren't playing that in Boston, and that there are multiple Aja nights in New York; that's why I said "somewhat similar") yet they were delighted to hear The Royal Scam anyway. I think the majority of people were probably excited rather than disappointed at the prospect of hearing Aja. I know I could be wrong. Just out of curiosity, what would you predict as the 20 song setlist from the list of 52, Ray? I'm just asking, so it's no big deal if you don't do it. I realize it can be hard to do so without being influenced by your own opinions as well as the two previous request shows. But if you choose to do so and need the 52 song set to be posted, I will be glad to post it.
I'm not sure what to make of Larry Carlton not playing any solos on Aja. I know he played the solo on Josie on The Royal Scam night, so I find it a bit odd that he didn't play it on last night. On the other hand, Aja is Becker's "guitar album," and he normally takes all the solos besides Peg and half of the title track. While I might have been a little disappointed that he didn't play any solos on Aja, I'm sure he more than made up for it during the rest of the show. I read a post where someone said they're sort of "easing him in," so maybe they'll mix it up more on future "Larry Carlton" dates. I guess there is a reason he's playing specifically on The Royal Scam dates, though.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 17:39:40 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
'All that is missing is James Brown's
valet to drape his cape around him before
he exits.'
Ray, THAT would be AWESOME!
DB16, excellent post. I guess all bands have the same problem, trying to please both the casual fans and the diehards with one setlist, and play things they somewhat enjoy at the same time. The one factor SD doesn't have to deal with right now is pushing new product. We had already surmised that this whole 'taking it to the seats' deal would be served up with great irony by the boys; more of a recession-busting ticket sales tactic than a leap into the deep cuts. Hell, it's a way to walk that line - serve up the hits and dangle a couple of shiny Dr. Wu's in front of the diehards. Lay down your Jacksons, babies.
Thanks to all for the NY reviews and comments, Hoops double especially. Now I know how you guys felt last week whilst we were whooping it up in Boston - I feel like a flu ridden kid who has to stay inside while everybody else is outside playing!
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 17:35:02 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray,
Almost forgt DB16,
Then why don't D&W leave the
stage during "Gaucho"?
Just a thought.....
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 17:30:41 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Back To The Pool
DB16,
There is no way in hell that
I'm gonna buy "I Got The News"
is a top vote getter. That's
just plain horsesh&t. I don't
even buy "Home At Last" as a top
vote getter. They surely could have
mixed up the Aja tunes like Boston
and let Larry do more or heaven
forbid,play some other songs.
You said,
"Even if they played the most monotonous, repetitive setlist ever, I would have been extremely excited to see Larry Carlton play with the Dan, but that's just me"
EXACTLY MY POINT! I've come
to see Larry and you make me
wait for 45 to 50 minutes before
he even let's one rip?!?!
I'm sure there were plenty of
folks in the audience who also
scratched their heads and said,
"Didn't I just see 'Aja Night'?
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 17:12:53 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
The Boston Internet Request Night and New York Internet Request Night were not that different from each other. Excluding Teenie's Blues and Last Tango in Paris, they played 21 songs. They played Love is Like An Itchin' in My Heart of course, so therefore, there could have been twenty "voted" songs. However at the Boston show, they played Dirty Water, which was not on the 52 song voting list, and in New York, they played Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More, also on not on the voting list. So, there were 19 "voted" songs at each show. The difference... Boston: Bodhisattva, The Royal Scam, Do It Again; New York: Deacon Blues, Home At Last, and I Got the News. Despite the fact that they were on Aja, I would deem Home At Last and I Got the News deeper cuts than Do It Again and Bodhisattva at least.
Incidentally, for the Boston voting on the MSG website, Home at Last was one of the highest vote-getters, and I'm not sure about this, but I think Josie and Hey Nineteen were on the low end. (Also, I think Everything Must Go, Pretzel Logic, and Lunch with Gina had a good amount of votes). I didn't see the final poll on that site, but I think that was the case. However, that whole Boston voting system was completely messed up, as I voted for Dr. Wu multiple times despite the fact that I didn't attend the show. Maybe that's why the setlist for that show was slightly different than (what I remember to be) the top vote-getters.
As far as I'm aware, the New York ticket-holders were the voters for the show yesterday, and perhaps, the show actually reflected the votes. We are all skeptical, but who knows? Fagen and Becker don't have to tell us what was actually voted for and the order of the votes, but it makes sense to me that the biggest hits would make the cut, especially considering that there are a lot of Steely Dan fans who are a not nearly as big of fans as those on this message board and who have not attended as many concerts as those on this message board. In fact, I bet they comprise a much larger percentage of the audience that "Bluebook" posters, and I imagine they were thrilled to hear the hits. In other words, not EVERYONE wants to hear the "deeper cuts."
So, if all of Aja made the cut, what's the big deal about playing it in order just because they already did that for the Aja show? For one thing, the remaining set was different enough to satisfy those who went both nights I'm sure. Second of all, I bet the majority of the crowd didn't buy tickets for both nights. (Keep in mind that a lot of people went to these shows and not all of them are necessarily "hardcore" fans). I would argue that Fagen/Becker see themselves as being generous to the attendees so those who didn't see the Aja show were able to see it played last night. Lastly, if this was a non-"special setlist" show, I bet they would play most of Aja anyway.
A few more things (sorry about the length of this post).1. I'm a little surprised that Bad Sneakers hasn't made either of the Internet Request shows so far. However, they have played it at most of their "normal" (pre special setlist shows), so it's not like they are against playing it or anything. 2. I have heard the live (carbon copy) version of Here at the Western World from previously in the summer. Although I enjoyed it, and I would definitely include it in my vote, it did not seem to elicit much of an audience response to me. Perhaps not a lot of people are voting for it. 3. I have a hypothesis (not a good one really) that maybe the reason Becker and Fagen leave the stage during The Fez is because Paul Griffin has that co-writing credit? Maybe he played a bigger role in writing it than we think, and Becker and Fagen don't feel comfortable with it? 4. Even if they played the most monotonous, repetitive setlist ever, I would have been extremely excited to see Larry Carlton play with the Dan, but that's just me. 5. All of this is mostly my uneducated opinion, and I apologize if I come off the wrong way or sound repetitive.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 16:54:20 ET
Posted by: Mo, girl without a voice
Ray,
I am not familiar with any of Larry's recent releases, but back in 1978 he released a self-titled album containing a song called "Room 335". It sounds very much like Peg, and a few days ago I posted here about how I thought it would be cool if they did a mashup/combo of the two songs. In that regard, I would've been quite disappointed, too that he didn't solo at all on Peg last night.
~Mo~
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 15:59:57 ET
Posted by: LR, Malibu
Correction:
My "Bad Sneakers", they
did play "Any Major Dude"
last night.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 15:54:12 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu - Summer Sunday
Mo, Colin & Jive,
OF COURSE Larry didn't do the "Peg"
solo on record. But he has a famous
"take" that was not used. Hell, he
wrote a new song that incorporates it!
So why not let the fans hear it during
Peg for a real treat?
Buying the "4 Pack" you would think
that they would reward us with a unique
experience every night. So now I just
bought "Two Nights of Aja"? And
Larry just plays rhythm and not even
"His" Peg solo?
The Boston "Internet Request Night"
had better cuts. If that is the case,
bring back the "rigged voting" from
Boston. Hell, the show in Boca Raton,
had deeper cuts that included "Bad
Sneakers" & "HATWW"! than last nights
so called "one for the fans". C'mon,
you mean to tell me that no "True Blue"
NYC fans wanted to hear, "Any Major Dude"
or "Bad Sneakers" while stomping on the
avenue?
It also seems that "The Fez" has become
Donald's new albatross unfortunately.
Causing him now to leave the stage.
All that is missing is James Brown's
valet to drape his cape around him before
he exits.
I apologize for not thanking hoops last
night for the "Play-by-Play". Thanks for
taking the time hoops.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 15:04:11 ET
Posted by: J Goodman,
******************ATTENTION SD FANS*******************
Next time you're diggin' EMG, listen to the fade section of DF's synth solo on "Lunch w/ Gina" and hear how he "cops" that "bend-y-bend-y-bend-y-bend-y" lick from the Jan Hammer solo on "Celestial Terrestrial Commuters" from Mahavishnu Orchestra's "Birds of Fire".
(Hammer uses that lick on other selections also. However, it's really prevalent and present on that one.)
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 14:30:48 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
bronxneil - thank you for making my points so emphatically; Walt & (especially) Don are going to need some significant ass-kicking to get them out of that "we can only play the hits for the uber-boomer set" mode they've been in since '03. They're slowly coming around but there needs to be a bit more wear on the boot leather to make a solid case to them.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 13:46:07 ET
Posted by: Please, in the name of ©, from the [HUMONGOUS] non-MSG, non-FUSE portion of the planet:
Please, please, please do NOT record and share - by torrent, email or other means - the repeat of the Rent Part Sneak Peek that according to The Dean airs tonight on FUSE at 9PM (Eastern Time).
Thank you for your co-operation ;)
/PGE
PS
Dakota Biff: Looking forward to the DF/WB bus movie!
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 13:29:19 ET
Posted by: Bronx Neil,
I saw last night's Beacon show. It was really special. Are The Dan in danger of turning into a jam band? I swear Donald and Walter have been going to Allman Brother shows at the Beacon -- they're copying the Allmans at the Beacon playbook. The Allmans play lengthy stands every March at the Beacon and usually have guests sit in each night. They made this past March extra special to mark the Band's 40th anniversary... Eric Clapton, Bruce Willis on harp, etc.
Larry Carlton played the whole show last night and added a lot -- not just his obvious solos. The band opened up on a lot of stuff with Larry in the mix, and you could tell they all enjoyed it. At one point, Herrington had a sidebar talking to Carlton in the middle of Rikki, you could hear him saying ... you take over the next solo ... Donald was cheerleading like I've never seen him before. At the end Walter was bubbling calling New York the greatest. This could point to a new direction, at least for continued annual Beacon stands. Special guests can keep the band fresh and inventive, even when they mostly play 1970s greatest hits. The core band is now so tight, they could pull off some amazing improv.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 13:15:31 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
How are Donald's precious pipes holding up.
From what I can see/hear on YouTube clips, Beard is a terrific addition to the band, as is the decision to re-add the 3rd backup singer. Love hearing Carolyn back in the lineup.
Carlton inspires Jon and Walter to play their asses off.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 12:52:47 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
Dakota B,
I try to avoid initialisms, but your D&W movie scene made me LOL...
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 12:49:00 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Doc Biff: Stop making me laugh. My external intercostals are killing me.
MDKelly: We're thinking about some sort of Danding before the show and perhaps a Wingfest after. I realize you made the right choice and avoided the little Morph get together in St. Paul, but might you be interested in Memphis Indica Again? I have a different driver this go round.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 12:09:44 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Just a reminder:
The Steely Dan: Rent Party '09 infomercial is repeated tonight, at 9PM (Eastern Time) on FUSE.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 12:07:12 ET
Posted by: oleander, oscar don't live in that nyc no more
... gothic Muppet...
Love it.
oleander
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 11:19:56 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
Baby Joey/ you seem to have gotten serious as of late' I kind of miss your funny shit!!
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 10:56:03 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
Hey Bill/ The Donald does indeed seem to be enjoying Dr Wu; can we hope for it the rest of the way out? I feel torn I cant wait to see them in Det on sep 5 but hope I wont be devastated if they decide to not play the Wu. Taking my best Steely buddy and his wife and my son and his wife just in case
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 10:48:28 ET
Posted by: Joey,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlZmn3gXWzE
Bless You !
Joey like ..............
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 10:46:04 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
Based on that brief YouTube clip, DF does not sound all that hoarse (although he seems to mumble one line, might be the recording). He also seems to be getting into the song that he always insisted he didn't want to sing, don't you think? And is Walt W playing alto or tenor? I forget, does he often double on alto? Haven't seen them in person for a few years.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 10:02:27 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
doc kelly - you're the candlestick maker, right? Boy, I guess you've got me "pegged" and gave me a teachable moment (feel free to add yourself to my putz list). mikebake, keep your flour dry and go back to pounding your bread.
POSER ALERT - his posts will follow shortly (.and gosh darn it, I think he REALLY likes me!)
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 09:54:10 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
poser - thank you for allowing me to be consume copious amounts of your time with your flattering imitations of me.
back2bass6 - my hat's off to you for saying what most of us think or have thought about the tours since '03; it's the brave folk like you that give D&W that frozen boot in the ass they've been deserving since '03; that is, they need to quit stuffing tour $ into their pockets with their "revue" and reflect upon what made them great and then ATTEMPT to produce that live (i.e. musical esoterica). Their TWO SETS next year should include ALL the obscure cuts they have either never played or abandoned playing since '03 (a couple of which you mentioned). It will be very interesting to see the setlists from CT, NJ and especially TN as seldon (never?) play there; that is after the CHI and NY ass-kissing tune selections (LA to follow).
BTW, If I plunked down my hard-earned cash to see a concert on the first US leg of this year's tour, I would feel cheated beyond belief (maybe even deano could muster a little indignation for once in his life toward SD instead of posters like me who speak the truth). There were absolutely no deep cuts and no guest artists at these concerts...oh yeah, The Sam re-tread organ trio (when is that guy going to get his pink slip, huh?)...they may be good to you if you like organ trios but, as we know, a very poor fit with SD.
Awaiting my little infatuated one to mimmick me (you little mensch).
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 09:33:20 ET
Posted by: Doc Kelly, deepest lurker den
mikethebaker: for what its worth... in my decade-and-a-half-plus years of lurkerdom I've come to view this forum in a "form vs content" fashion... not a lot of new news... just a great place to hang out and be with those of a like mind... but there's always been a Dr. present... you know the type... abrasiveness = scream for attention.
P.Reuben: countdown to Memphis---12 days
Meanwhile in our local news: http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/aug/01/burroughs-exhibits-begin-dotdotdot-artspace/
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 09:19:50 ET
Posted by: moray eel, oh
Did it really sound like this ??????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlZmn3gXWzE
m.e.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 08:57:57 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
Dr Wu from Saturday at the Beacon is finally up on Youtube folks (well part of it anyway!)
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 08:44:37 ET
Posted by: LR, here
Some great reporting here. He used the blue's twitter feed to "live blog" last night's show.
http://www.examiner.com/x-16824-Oakland-Live-Music-Examiner~y2009m8d1-Liveblogging-Twitter-Steely-Dan-at-the-Beacon-Theater-NYC
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 08:35:52 ET
Posted by: back2bass6, LAWN GUYLAND
ok, here goes...
no one i know enjoys the sophistication and lyrical wit of SD more than I.
that being said, i have opted not to attend any of the shows at the Beacon this time around.
300 bucks to hear the same tunes i've heard them play a dozen times just won't work for me anymore. The wit and wisdom of the musical and lyrical savvy
of SD in tunes such as SHAME ABOUT ME and NEGATIVE GIRL are obviously NEVER going to be played live, and this to me is criminal. Calm down you bloggers, it's just one man's opinion, but I've had enough of MY OLD SCHOOL to last a lifetime. As a bassist who has performed that tune all too many times, I love it as much as anyone, it irks me that SD feels the need to "do it again" every goddamned show. Since when are DF AND WB so influenced by the populus to do yet another "greatest hits" tour?
In full acknowledgment of the best band ever, hands down, until such time as the change their set lists, I'm staying home-at last.
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 07:35:12 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, Florence
"There was an issue of Fagens voice or lack there of. Man was he horse"
Good to see the movie theme being kept up here: released in 1970, Richard Harris in the lead role, a personal old favourite as my friendly Sioux neighbors got walk on parts.
Ya know, I think B&F should do a movie, like The Beatles and The Monkees did, or a summer holiday 'road movie' like Cliff Richard and The Shadows in the 60's! I can just picture them, Fagen at the oversized wheel of a double-decker bus happily singing along to 'My Old School', the odd cheesy wink at the camera spliced in with shots of the lovely countryside. Then when the guitar breaks come, it cuts to the open-top upper deck where Becker (who's the bus conductor of course) wields that ticket machine like it were a 54 Strat, doing 2 solos (a double-Becker) to the delight of the gyrating, bikini-clad backing vocalists, their hair flowing in the wind and sometimes in Walter's face... I've got a screenplay to work on..
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 04:27:57 ET
Posted by: luke, Springtime
Great show at the Beacon! Great party at the Bitter End! I had fun!
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 02:44:57 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
Just to clear up any confusion for my fellow SD buffs, the Peg solo work on Aja was performed by Jay Graydon.
http://www.jaygraydon.com/solotxt.htm
Sounds like the band is in rare form! Hoping to catch my 8th show since '94 next weekend at the borgata.
Jive
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 00:37:52 ET
Posted by: Mo,
My bad, Colin - you're right!
~Mo~
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 00:23:55 ET
Posted by: Jazzman, Maryland
Jay Graydon took the solo on Peg :-)
Colin
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 00:10:57 ET
Posted by: Mo, Oops!
Oops! "RH" should have been "JH".
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009, 00:08:37 ET
Posted by: Mo, Bummed I couldn't go tonight
Ok, I'll chime in now about last night's show before too many people post about tonight's show. Last night's show was AMAZING. The danfest was great fun - so good to see so many of you there, friends in dandom, new and old. Hoops, it was especially great to see you again!!
To see Larry Carlton play the entire Scam album, especially the way he replicated his solos was just awesome. Debbie and I were lucky enough to score seats right in front of the sound booth, and I asked the guys if it would bother them if I stood up and danced. They all gave me a thumbs up, and said "go for it!". So as far as I know, I was the only person who stood up and danced pretty much the entire night. I don't get to see these guys as many times as a lot of you guys do - and I almost didn't go to the show at all due to having lost my job a while back. But I just couldn't NOT go, not when I heard that LC was joining them, if ya know what I mean. And I am SO glad I did!! The entire Scam album was perfect! The energy in the audience was great. Every time I looked around, it seemed that almost everybody was singing along the entire night. People have already commented about various guitar solos by LC, RH and WB (and they were all fabulous), but I don't think anyone has mentioned how cool it was at the end of Haitian Divorce when the 3 of them traded riffs for a good 2-5 minutes (I could be totally off here - that's just a guestimate). BTW, Ray, LC didn't play guitar on Peg - Steve Kahn did.
I've been a fan since the 70's, but never got to see them live till 2003, and I saw them 3 times that year - once at PNC, and then both nights at Roseland (by far the best weekend of my life, and where I made some great new friends). Since then I've seen them at least twice every tour after that one, and saw Donald's Morph concert once. I can honestly say that last night's show ranks right below the Roseland shows for me. It was just incredible.
And I'm kicking myself that we didn't come along for the after-show drink, 'cause I would've loved to have met Larry Carlton, (not to mention being able to spend a little more time with those of you who did go)!
I was at a wedding tonight, and there was a keyboard player there who alternately played live and dj'd. As I was leaving, he put on Kid C, and I ran to my car and got my Steely Dan antennae (some of you know what I'm talking about), and ran back inside with them on. I have no shame. ;-)
I was following the tweets (or should I say "twats") while I was at the wedding, and I am so bummed that I missed Wu - I'm hoping that someone taped it and will put the video up on youtube. Or maybe I'll win the lottery and go to the request night at the Beacon on the 11th. Ya never know......
I was with you guys tonight in spirit!!
~Mo~
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 23:51:14 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, heaven
Amazing night at the Beacon. To clarify for those hard of clarificationing; an announcer came out just prior to the lights going out and said something to the effect of: when the votes were tallied for the request show, it seems all the songs from Aja were in the setlist...so, he band is going to start by playing the whole Aja album from start to finish and then the rest oif the show will be from the rest of the request winners. Larry Carlton played only rhythm until Kid C. Also thought Scam was to follow start to finish. Yes there was a point late in the night that I thought the Dr was not going to make a theatre call. I heard it out back earlier as part of the sound check along w/ 5 or 6 other songs. No guitars, at least leads during sound check- comprised mostly of songs starting with D. Anyway, the Dr made an entrance and it was wonderful. As great as it is IMHO on vinyl, live was unbelievable. It was an 11. Mere words can not describe how ferocious Carlock was at the close of Dr Wu. Mere words can not describe how great Dr Wu live was. Those are just a few thoughts. For now.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 23:44:58 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Jim,
Thanks for the twatting, and the backup.
Sounds like it was a great show.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 23:41:23 ET
Posted by: Hoops, Nyc
They hada lot of requests for track from Aja so they played those together.
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Sent from my iPhone
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 23:15:41 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Ray,
You have to figure Black Cow, Aja, Deacon Blues, Peg and Josie made the voting list. I'm guessing Home at Last may have made the list, as well. As long as they are playing those 5 or 6 songs, why not play the album as a whole? How many of the attendees do you think got to attend Aja night? Is there more value to splitting those songs up throughout the show, than playing them together and tossing in I Got The News? Not to me there wouldn't be.
Anyway, I think it is pretty clear now, that this exactly what they decided to do. I understand that you may not like it, but do you think it was something other than what I described?
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 23:10:11 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Hoops,
Thanks for the live feed; glad you were able to make it to NYC.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 23:07:47 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Okay, show over. Check testing
one, two, three. Deano, where
is the "value" for the 4 night
ticket fan? "Aja Night"?,
Didn't I just see that?
Where are my nuggets, like "HATWW"?
"YGT"?
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 22:58:31 ET
Posted by: David MacFadden-Elliott / Taxiology, Berkeley
Updated address for my "review" of the Twitter feed.
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-16824-Oakland-Live-Music-Examiner~y2009m8d1-Liveblogging-Twitter-Steely-Dan-at-the-Beacon-Theater-NYC
Cheers,
David
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 22:30:05 ET
Posted by: Ray,
They have just been WUUED in NYC
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 22:29:55 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Ahhhh... And in the comfortable, familiar #11 position.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 22:20:04 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
To clarify a little, Ray...
"Play the Works" is the theme of the Internet Request Night. So maybe "The Works" for tonight included the bulk (or all) of Aja. Why not just play it in order the way they would for Aja night?
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 22:17:58 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
We're counting on 3 albums in Memphis. Or Babylon Sisters before Hey 19. Wish I were there.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 22:11:58 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Is there a Doctor in the house?
I hope NY Dan fans get to hear Wu tonight. It's getting late in the set.
Mark in Boston
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 22:10:38 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Testing 1..2..3 IS this thing on?
That's my point, Ray. Perhaps since the bulk of the Aja songs were requested anyway, they packaged them (and played the remaining one or two) into the whole album to give an extra treat. In other words, they were playing those songs anyway, so why not play them in order, with the needle drop?
Any of this sinking in?
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 22:04:31 ET
Posted by: LR,
hoops, who is MC? Do you mean
Michael L? "ML"?
They did Aja in order Deano, with
the needle drop.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 21:58:35 ET
Posted by: Awesome,
t's great to see the boys giving the fans more than they bargained for, especially after last year's drab shows what with 12-14 songs each on average.
I'm thinking, since they're on tour, maybe they could throw in a new tune or something, perhaps even release a new single as a bonus to the tour. And no, I'm not complaining nor bitching about anything (around here you need 20/20 hindsight). It's. Just. An. Idea. Nothing more.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 21:58:21 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Ray, what I'm saying it, maybe 5, or even 6 of the songs on Aja made the Request list. Perhaps the boys decided to simply play Aja as a whole, this playing the request songs and giving a bonus of having Aja played as an album.
Is that so hard to believe?
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 21:53:41 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
No Dean, they did ALL
of Aja, then went into
Kid C. I thought they were
now going todo all of RS,
hence "Plays The Works" now
appearing on tonights, Beacon
Marquee. But then they went
into Hey 19, so that blew that
"Plays The Works" theory.
So why do all of Aja?
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 21:52:12 ET
Posted by: David MacFadden-Elliott, Berkeley
The Book has enjoyed some of my Steely Dan reviews in the past, so I thought I'd post this. I'm live-blogging Dandom's Twitter feed, if you don't mind. Having a little fun with the new new new journalism.
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-16824-Oakland-Live-Music-Examiner~y2009m8d1-Live-Blogging-the-Twitter-Steely-Dan-at-the-Beacon
Best,
David
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 21:47:21 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
why is there so much bickering on this site? I'd like to see you all duke it out in person, it's easy to have a big set of balls sitting behind a keyboard....
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 21:47:10 ET
Posted by: LR,
Okay by the "Twix" the Marquee
now says - "Steely Dan Plays The
Works". So why do all three albums
instead of interet request?
They just did RS last night?
I give. Anyone have any info,
hoop's twats don't mention why the \
change.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 21:47:08 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Ray,
Perhaps all of Aja (or nearly all) made the list, so they packaged it to give the fans a little extra. Just a thought.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 21:27:54 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Did I miss something???
They have LC on stage and they
are now doing all of AJA???????
He didn't even play his Peg solo.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 21:18:48 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
WTF, I thought it was "Internet
Request Night" in NYC with Larry:
I thought they already did "Aja"
night?
So far:
Deacon Blues
Aja
Black Cow
Peg
Well maybe Lary did "his" Peg solo?
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 21:09:07 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
MY site will dispense only LARGE PRINT SHIT. I know a lot about little boys. I'd like to have a pulsating electronic penis-like devices but. I'd like a couple of weeks of circle jerking if it puts me "there" in the pivot.
MY site will be a hit with the fucking delete key.
I don't capitalize so you can easily identify that no one else matters.
I like to watch a little boy poser put on a pair of his big-boy pants.
MY site will have imaginary character that drivel really was.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 20:39:59 ET
Posted by: Dr., Demento
I'm off my meds again. Forgive me, everyone, for wasting your time with my non-SD-related carping and general a$$holish behavior.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 20:06:09 ET
Posted by: "Stealy Dan"?, Wishing I was in NY right now
"Stealy Dan"? Isn't that the band where the keyboards and singing is taken care of by one Donald Fagan? Yes, FagAn.
Anyway... By the look of this tweet
http://twitpic.com/cg3fp
Pete Fogel might have seen the signs and is in place (with Ms Fogel?) to enjoy this evening at the Beacon.
Have fun guys and gals!
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 19:44:07 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, Amsterdam (Avenue that is)
Everyone going should check out and get a laugh at the yellow no parking signs behind the beacon. Stealy Dan. You'd think by now they'd get it right!
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 18:54:07 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
I do not capitalize the name of posters I address so you can easily identify the (second-time) poser; not that I think anyone, especially me, would give a shit. Little-boy poser needs to put on a pair of his big-boy pants...unless he's meeting with Friar Tuck or some other imaginary character (that drivel really was a hoot, though).
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 18:46:06 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
Can we dispense with the small print shit-list at the beginning of this site? We all know little boys like pulsating electronic penis-type devices but we've had a couple weeks of this irritating circle-jerking, small print shinola that really doesn't put anyone "there" IMHO. Twitter is the leg-warmers of the '00s...hit the fucking delete key on that shit, Adolph.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 18:29:34 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
Dakota- Of coarse the only line of shit you should believe is mine. I've got a line. I've got shit. I've got swamp. I've got cunt. I've got to get you to only believe me.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 17:39:03 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
dakota - and if you believe that line of shit, I've got some swamp cunts to sell you.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 17:09:04 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Complicated Chart, Experience, NJ
JJ and Hoops. I agree re: Larry's volume. I heard everything he did (no pun intended). He did seem a bit lower than JH and WB. That said, JH is clearly their well-oiled, road tested lead guitarist. At points, he was clearly giving direction to LC. Larry is sitting in on these dates, so he's still familiarizing himself with the charts he's working from, where everyone else has had time to know the chord changes, breaks, etc. That said, his solo during Third World Man, though not quite as melodic or evenly paced as the recorded version, not to mention the hired gun copy-cat versions since played by others, was an amazing experience as a die-hard fan. That felt historic, as did Dr. Wu in Boston or Haitian Divorce with Donald.. or when True Companion lead into Aja at the 1994 shows overture - or Boston Rag 2000. These guys are awesome.
In 1987, I promoted a Larry Carlton show at the Berklee School's PAC in Boston. Yellowjackets opened. I did a radio show on WERS-FM while attending Emerson. Larry played the solo from Kid Charlemagne and I remember thinking at the time that that would be the closest I would ever get to seeing SD live.
I remember last night's setlist (in no particular order)
Royal Scam album
Aja
Hey 19
Home at Last
Pretzel Logic
Third World Man
Black Friday
Daddy Don't Live in That NYC No More
Love is Like An..
Josie
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years
Last Tango in Paris outro
Did I miss anything ?
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 15:24:25 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
6burgh Bill: I couldn't find that J'S'B at allmusic to see just which of those guitars Jeff played. Then I listened to Dallas and StW.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 12:58:57 ET
Posted by: Jazzman, Maryland
I was seated left of centre in Orchestra at last nights show and LC's volume sounded just fine to me. Maybe it was where you guys were seated?
Colin
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 12:41:06 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
D Biff: By all means sell the farm and get the platter. I don't believe I've ever met anyone else who has that EP. The Photo is classic. The excitement I felt when I got my copy back in ought78 was only exceeded when I got my "You Gotta Walk It Like You Talk It" the next year.
Rajah: I was worried. They were worried about "twat," so they found an inoffensive substitute.
The Dean: What about, "Get the cross oucher genitalia, female dog!
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 12:12:45 ET
Posted by: JoeM, NYC
Excellent show at The Beacon last night. Seeing Carlton perform with the band was awe inspiring. Took me back 30 some odd years.
Nice seeing you again Hoops. Maybe we'll run into each other again at tonights show...
What a night.
Joe
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 11:42:34 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Bill, that Skunk collection is pretty funny. Thanks for the tip.
LC was mixed low? Even for solos? I know I find Jon to be too low in the mix, when I have seen SD. But the solos are usually adequately mixed (I can always use more volume).
Best Exorcist parody line?
"Your mother sews socks that smell!"
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 10:31:02 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Dakota, I did indeed meet Bill Freidkin and William Peter Blatty, I had a Latin professor my soph year at university named, Fr. Birmingham, SJ, a great man of faith and a great friend to me. He'd call me up sometimes and ask if I could take him places and one night he took me to the Rathskellar to meet friends who turned out to be these two gentlemen. I just sat behind Father and sipped on my beer while they recounted. Father Birmingham was the muse behind The Exorcist for Mr. Blatty, he was a trained exorcist himself in Rome thirty years before. He believed firmly that there exists evil in this world that has the power to harm us. I don't think so myself but he was a great lover of theatre and literture and he taught me oh so many things about life. That's when they came to a discussion about this word, "cunt," excuse me.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 10:06:42 ET
Posted by: hoops, nyc
JJ: I agree about LC.
I forget who posted but actually, yes, we had spoilers even for the first show in Detroit in '93. They were in what is now the "Dandom Digest".
See you tonite.
Jim
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 09:53:29 ET
Posted by: JJ,
"Turn up the Carlton, the fans are listening" . Crazy how you could hear Becker and Herington so clearly but Carlton didn't even sound like he was plugged in. What's was up with that! Turn him up boys!
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 09:24:44 ET
Posted by: Sailing to Dallas, At the palace
@Dakota Biff Dallas & Sail... has not been officially released on CD as far as I know.
Being curious to hear the very first SD single I did chase down a copy of that + Fours 12" a few years ago. Both songs in mono and the sound of the vinyl showed its age. But I got to hear the songs in all their distorted pop and click beauty.
Like Rajah noted there's not much money in either the 45 or the 12". Maybe a bit more in the supposedly existing promo 45 with a STEREO verion of Dallas.
Anyone heard/own that stereo Dallas?
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 09:24:42 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
The plot thickens about this Skunk cover collection. Apparently Purple Pyramid is a subsidiary of Cleopatra Records, who have put out a bunch of tribute albums. Their web site is here http://www.cleorecs.com/dev/label.cfm?category=9. Skunk is not listed among the artists, although the CD only came out last year. Also, all the tunes on it appear to have been drawn from their other tribute albums (Floyd, Zep, etc) featuring JSB with various other performers. Wonder if they tried to release this collection without his permission? Personally, I wouldn't want to mess with someone in his current line of work.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 09:11:41 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
DakotaBiff: Dallas and Sail The Waterway sound a lot like CBAT outtakes, which I believe they were - can anyone confirm? Dallas was sung by Jim Hodder, STW by DF. Both are kind of mellow, laid back early 70s fare, not much like the later work. I have a 12-inch import EP with those two, Haitian Divorce and Do It Again. You can check them both out (audio only) on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8TAxYE-x-E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFM-xKKb6pw&feature=related
Googling about, I discovered that Poco covered Dallas. Haven't heard their version but it is said be very close to SD's. Lotsa Skunk steel guitar on the original.
Speaking of Skunk, has anyone ever heard of this collection:
Jeff "Skunk" Baxter Plays the Hits, on Purple Pyramid, released 2008, complete with cheesy K-Tel style cover.
http://www.deezer.com/en/music/jeff-skunk-baxter-of-steely-dan/plays-the-hits-177435
It features a variety of guests including Todd Rundgren, Wanda Jackson, Rocker/Phantom from the Stray Cats, and a bunch of other familiar names. It's available on YouTube (although Dallas/STW are not).
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 09:00:46 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
cpr (or whatever it is) - here's a capable writer for the times re: the '07 tour (and BTW you're still a putz):
"Neither Mr. Fagen nor Mr. Becker seems characteristically prone to nostalgia. During their heyday as paragons of subversive 1970s pop, they often sounded wary about the very act of reminiscence. But a catalog is a powerful thing: last year Steely Dan authorized a career-spanning compilation, and later this year there will be another one. Perhaps it was inevitable that a good portion of the show would feel a bit like a revue.
But even with such high-level musicianship, there wasn’t much discovery. (The jazz trio that opened, led by the Hammond B-3 organist Sam Yahel, sounded tougher and more inspired.) The few surprises were generally unwelcome: “Haitian Divorce,” a throwaway with a lead vocal by Mr. Becker, and “Dirty Work” fell flat, despite solid efforts by the singers Cindy Mizelle and Carolyn Leonhart-Escoffery."
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 08:20:34 ET
Posted by: Mark from North of Boston, Up Country
All you folks attending the multi night shows and getting to hear two different set lists....wow I am very envious. I got to do it during the 2AN tour though the set list was the same each night.
I'm hoping the upcoming night at the MGM Theater has a surprise or two. Would love to have them slip in WU.
Hope to see some of you there.
Enjoy the shows!
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 07:42:00 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Thanks, Hoops !!
What a night !!!!!!!!!!
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 07:35:19 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, at the end of the road
Rajah - you mean, William Friedkin? You know/met Billy Friedkin?? Pity he hasn't managed to reprise his own body of once-commendable work (which I previously alluded to with the Poughkeepsie reference some posts ago). You know, Sean Connery once spoke to me: he said, "get out of my way, idiot".
Thanks for the feedback, 3 dumb questions coming up....drum roll.... are Dallas/Sail the Waterway available on cd disc format? Can they be downloaded? Should I bother??
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 07:18:20 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Dakota, if it's a 45, it ain't worth much. I have a 33 & 1-3rd of Dallas and Sail the Waterway...worthless also to anyone who isn't one of us.
Yes, that euphemism for female genetalia and a prohibitively militant idiot is a word that derives its root from the Sanscrit, as I was informed by the director and screenwiter of the film, The Exorcist, no name dropping you understand, but they took lots of flak for its use in the film. It's a very old and valid word. We don't use it in polite society or on the Blue...bad form. Pity, cause it suits in many circumstances.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 06:06:00 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, in transit
Reuben - as one previous poster wrote 'I'm all Danned out'. In my case, the gamut of emotions has been all but run; of all the rants, bickering, ego massaging, throwing toys out the pram, scraping for superlatives, know-it-all semantics, OTT Wu clamouring, name-dropping, outright alienation and general lack of humour (apart from your good self, I might add) which have recently tainted the blue, or at least given it a slightly darker shade...no wait, pc wasn't connected to the mains...there, that's better..I end up conferring with a fellow poster on the (mis)understanding of a word which Collins English Dictionary & Thesaurus lists thus: Brit/Austral/NZ taboo slang 1) the female genitals 2) a foolish person (origin unknown).
While I was looking up twat (excuse the imagery) I scrolled down to twit, and the verb 'to twitter', which makes no bones about the fact that twittering is all about 'nervous excitement' and 'in a high-pitched voice', and 'ultimately annoying' and 'adults who need to calm down & take a moment to reflect a little on exactly what it is they're doing'.
And seeing as I was only a few pages away, I looked up Steely Dan but the closest thing is 'Steel Band': a band of people playing on metal drums, popular in the West Indies...
Well how about that? I inadvertently solved the mother of all Steely Dan riddles: it's now abundantly clear that they took their name from that wedding they went to in Haiti..
I'm currently trawling through Brian Sweet's SD biography 'Reelin' In The Years' for the second time. Either the book has some hellish factual errors and/or typos, or some posters here have got entirely the wrong band altogether. Passages may follow, if only to separate the men from the boys..or the twits from the twats, if you will.
PS - I just remembered I used to have SD's 45rpm vinyl record 'Dallas' with 'Sail The Waterway' on the flip side - is it worth anything? Like, me flying all the way to another country to get it? Or like investing in a Bang & Olufsen turntable and Linn speakers to play it on/through??
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 02:21:52 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Care in the World, Back Home After A Slice Of Steely Heaven
Saw Tonight's show at Beacon. This was my 15th show since 1993.
1993 - Greek Theatre, LA - Denny Dias sat in at the encore. Awesome. First time ever. No setlist spoilers on the web. This was pre-web Steely. Same with 1994.
1994 - Irvine Meadows. Chambers. Sign In Stranger. True Companion into Aja - that was pretty unforgettable.
1995 - Roseland - Awesome. AWESOME show.
1996 - Irvine, then Hollywood Bowl, which was a highlight given the classic setting. The band new it, too. That was a special night. Saw Ed Begley Jr. chatting it up with Michael Des Barres backstage.
2000 - Walking Distance, Jan 29 - Sony. Awesome. Smallest Steely Audience I ever sat with. Joe Jackson was in the small crowd. He's covered Reelin' In The Years, King of the World and Any Major Dude. Also saw 3 summer shows, 2 at Jones Beach and one at Tweeter, formerly Great Woods in MA. Boston crowds beat LA and NY, which I am sad to say, being a native NY area guy.
2003 - Jones Beach. Also Roseland - AWESOME SHOW. EMG and Lunch with Gina off EMG played. Caves, Aja. Wow.
2006 - Sugartooth at Jones Beach. Great to see Donald and MM sing together. I Got The News was a highlight on that tour.
2007 - Mohegan. Standard night, no surprises. Complacency sets in.
2009 - Internet Request Night - Boston - Rikki, Any Major Dude, Dr. Wu and 1972 Reelin' - Do it Again. Great show.
ROYAL SCAM at BEACON THEATER was RIGHT UP THERE WITH THEIR BEST EVER SHOWS. To see Larry Carlton play his famous Kid C solo and Third World Man were such great moments. This was my first ever non-Peg, non-FM show. So refreshing to see 2 entirely different gigs within one week. I wish I could go to Aja and Gaucho. I was surprised that Here At the Western World was not played, knowing they'd rehearsed and played it previously. It seemed a natural fit, having come from the Scam sessions. Jon Herington seemed on his A game, competing with LC in a great way, plus giving LC solo cues. This show was among my very favorite SD shows ever. Too bad Don didn't sing Fez, though. To see him sing Haitian Divorce was pretty awesome, that being said.
Nice to see Michael Leonhart play tonight. Last week I saw Marvin Stamm at Wang Centre. I remember I saw Tony Kadleck fill in for Mike L. when he had to sit out the tour for a week due to illness in 2000.
This run of theatre shows is a great celebration for true fans.
Enjoy all...
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 02:04:55 ET
Posted by: hoops, nyc
Thanks for all the kind words and the buzz.
The show was really fantastic with the highlight for me being the dynamic of Larry Carlton joining our favorite band and then be surprised as to who would play or sing what parts.
Severfal of us from the pre-show Danfest ended up stopping for a drink after the show around the block from the Beacon. While we were having a drink in the sidewalk café, who should walk up and into the same café? Larry Carlton!
Mr. Carlton was very generous taking time to speak with some of us before joining his dinner companions.
Time to hit the sack so I can do it again in about 16 hours or so.
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 00:49:19 ET
Posted by: Jazzman, Maryland
Tonights show was fantastic. I wouldn't have missed it for the world. To see LC up there playing with the guys was awesome. The crowd went wild during Kid Charlemagne, with Larry of course taking the solos. A guy seated next to me asked me who he was. Ehhh???? Mr Austin Scaggs was sitting in the row in front of me. After the album tracks were played they got a standing ovation.
LC's solos on Third World Man, Black Friday and Pretzel Logic were wonderful. He obviously didn't have much time to rehearse as he was playing from sheet music. A guy came out after every song to replace it, but it didn't deter Larry. He glanced at it briefly and then went off on his own. Improvisation is one of his greatest talents.
Good to meet some other Dan fans at the Danfest before the show. I'm sure someone else will chime in soon.
Colin
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 00:29:55 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, The Tweets Just Keep On Coming!
Wow! That show sounds like it was off the hook! Wish I could have been there!
Jim -- thanks for sending out the Tweets tonight.
Mark in Boston
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 00:20:03 ET
Posted by: Beacon Attendee, back home
I was wandering outside the Beacon a couple hours before the show. Thought I heard a familiar voice. I turn to look and sure enough it was this guy hustling tickets with his goons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18ClRW7nDxs
I chatted with him briefly. He said the cancellation on Wednesday was a pain and he said something to the effect that he hoped Fagen wasn't again in need of the services of Dr. Wu.
Some notes...
Caves lyrics badly flubbed. It becomes a distraction when it seems to happen at every show because you start to anticipate it.
I wondered who was going to sing the shoes on Pretzel without Jeff Young. I guessed it would be the girls, but was surprised when Fagen took it himself.
First show I've been to with no Peg.
I was absolutely livid when people were still filing into my row in the middle of LC's KC solo.
Fagen's speaking voice was noticably hoarse, but I didn't have a problem with the vocals.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2009, 00:06:45 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Ditto!
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 23:12:47 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Jim,
Fantastic job on the twatting.
Sounds like I missed another great one. I am so freaking jealous.
Can't wait for the details.
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 19:23:48 ET
Posted by: driverseven,
going saturday and sure hope they do bodhisattva
just hearing that song alone would be worth price of admission to me
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 19:11:21 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
cjb -
"In a band with almost zero stage presence, he’s a wild card, a kind of gothic Muppet: arms moving up and down like monster claws, jaw opening wide on every line. His voice faltered a few times, the normal erosion of age. But he was deep in the music, singing rhythmically and playing astonishingly good keyboards: unprepossessing solos, swinging, nasty and percussive, a cross between Count Basie and Ray Charles."
I thought he was describing the drummer from the Muppets (can't remember his name) until I saw the word keyboards. I've seen some hack writing but this takes the cake; and this appeared in a "Big City" paper; astonishing.
I'd recommend that dude get a job writing used car ads.
cjb - you are a true moron
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 17:03:05 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Dakota, laddimio, good to see you're back. I knew my e-mail campaign would work. Now, about you're ventral...
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 16:21:51 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Awesome loge seats still available for tonight's show.......
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 14:53:09 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, Florence, Scotland
Steve - re the 'twat' issue, as in "Can I see your Heriot Watt?" joke, if it does mean the same Stateside, it went unnoticed previously when I used it to label certain audience members, not that anyone had to pick up on it.
I had actually thought about referring to the audience as 'numpties' but am pretty sure that our American cousins wouldn't have had a scooby there... course, I could have said 'fanny', but that's a whole other issue..
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 14:00:23 ET
Posted by: Mo, Still Beacon Bound
Steve,
Yes, it does. Recently, in an interview with Meredith Viera on the Today show, Stephen Colbert responded to Meredith's question "do you twitter, tweet?" with "well, I've twatted". And so it goes.....
Been thinking about tonight's show - wouldn't it be cool if they did some kind of mashup/combo of Peg and Room 335?
~Mo~
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 14:00:13 ET
Posted by: Mo, Still Beacon Bound
Steve,
Yes, it does. Recently, in an interview with Meredith Viera on the Today show, Stephen Colbert responded to Meredith's question "do you twitter, tweet?" with "well, I've twatted". And so it goes.....
Been thinking about tonight's show - wouldn't it be cool if they did some kind of mashup/combo of Peg and Room 335?
~Mo~
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 13:43:14 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
er....does twat mean the same in the U.S as it does here in the U.K?
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 12:23:46 ET
Posted by: hoops, nyc
Thanks Brutus and many, many others.
I can't keep up with all the posts since I am away from Chicago.
Hopefully you can see the Twatter crawl of setlist entries which I just put back up for tonight and will leave up for the next couple of days until I can get access again.
Sporadically yours in transit,
Jim
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 12:18:40 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
PERFECTLY stated RAJAH-MAN!
Thanks Jim for having this "place" and allowing us the opportunity to voice opinions, share news, share excitement/enthusiasms of the Steely kind.
With Admiration/Respect -
Brutus T. Charisma
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 12:09:14 ET
Posted by: Mo, Beacon Bound!
This is from an email I received from the Beacon about tonight's show:
Doors to the theatre open at 7:00pm. Sam Yahel Trio will open the show at approximately 8:00pm.* After a brief intermission, Steely Dan will take the stage. As always, we suggest that you arrive early and travel light. Enjoy the show!
I am so excited about tonight's show!! Do you think Larry Carlton will play the entire night, or do you think he'll leave the stage after "Scam"?
What are the chances that Wu will be one of the "plus" songs? I was so thrilled to hear that they did it at the Boston request night show, and I'm sure everyone who's going tomorrow night hope that they'll do it then, too. I have a wedding to go to tomorrow night, so I can't make the show. :-(
From what I understand, they've never really wanted to play it live, but they did, much to everyone's delight, and I heard it was GREAT!! So now that they've dusted it off and brought it back out, I'm hoping that they'll keep it in the rotation of songs that they do, and that they'll play it TONIGHT!!
Looking forward to seeing a bunch of you later!!
~Mo~
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 12:01:36 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
Pete Fogel is hosting a post Beacon after-party on Saturday at the Bitter End. If it's anything like last year, it should be amazing. See youtube.
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 11:50:43 ET
Posted by: &^%$, A study in contrasts
More on the performer/audience relationship:
As previously mentioned the other day, Van Morrison...
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1608
vs.
This reminiscence of James Taylor when faced with the exact same situation...
http://earlpomerantz.blogspot.com/2009/07/wise-words-from-james-taylor.html
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 11:41:09 ET
Posted by: Levity, ^v^
http://tinyurl.com/on-assuming
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 11:01:53 ET
Posted by: gr8fuljonnyd, SF
What time will The Dan go on stage tonight? Ticket says 8, so should I assume 9?
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 10:40:22 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Rajah: Once again I find myself thinking, "Hear. Hear." I don't know for a fact, but I'm very inclined to agree with you at least 100% about our host. Okay. For some reason I may have gotten an e-mail or two from him about trouble I brought with me into the blue, but he was diplomatic and nice. I would also like to add that Mr. McKay is generous to a fault. I'll see my hoodie and raise for him a polo.
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 10:33:18 ET
Posted by: RH, etc.
Carolyn is interested in submarines and military history. I wonder if Wayne's sax now carries a transponder. Maybe there's a market for a Lojack type device for instruments? I bet Walter wishes he had it on the 54 strat.
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 10:20:22 ET
Posted by: Henrod, NY
Carolyn Leonhart is the very beautiful backup singer who stands between the other two beautiful backup singers.
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 09:58:45 ET
Posted by: fezo, spelling bee
great description of DF in the Times article but I am left wondering who Carolyn Leonhardt is . . .
must be the same reporter they had on their WMD coverage
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 09:26:10 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I just want to say something to you all about our host, James McKay.
So please step back.
One more step, you're too close...
This is a gentleman of the first stripe. An academician, a fine young man, a good son for whom any dad or mom's breast would burst with pride, a sturdy custodian of our little Blue World.
Whenever Jim and I have had our little disagreements over the years, yes, we've had a few, he'd send me a very diplomatic email. And I'd respond. But he has NEVER muzzled me, never, all my insanity notwithstanding. And he would never do that to anyone who had a scintilla of sensitivity.
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 07:57:56 ET
Posted by: KD, Not ORL
I've never yelled out a song request at a show, as if it would matter, but I do feel a need to yell out "GODWHACKER" or "TWO AGAINST NATURE" after reading this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/23/arts/music/23stee.html
I'm so appreciative and such a fan of the recent SD releases, and while I know the quips about nobody showing up to a TvN or EMG are tossed out with tongue placed firmly in cheek, it still does burn.
Love those albums. Love those albums. And if the recording career ended with WB and Klein last year, while I won't like it, I won't care. The return was so, so worth it.
I'm so in love with those dirty albums.
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 07:31:09 ET
Posted by: USA, Today
http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2009-07-30-steely-dan_N.htm
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 06:14:17 ET
Posted by: Geoff, Allentown PA
See today's "USA Today" page 4D - Positive and educated review of the tour. Interesting side bar about some of B/F arrangements that have showed up on a Jay and The Americans CD.
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 00:57:31 ET
Posted by: kzkz, El Paso
James's not your uncle anymore
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 00:54:44 ET
Posted by: Unless of coarse, who are cousins?
James and Rajah, Rajah and Jim or Jim and James?
James Beard (the chef) is dead and would more likely have been an uncle to Jim.
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 00:47:53 ET
Posted by: tuba110, Perry, Ohio
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 08:42:56 ET
Posted by: Gary Nu,
*************HOW COME NO CLIP LINKS FOR WU LIVE???*****************
Seriously.... I have been checking everday on youtube. Did NOONE record this miracle moment??? Hopefully someone will get it at the next request night!
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 00:38:14 ET
Posted by: James, Italai, Romania
If Jim Beard releases 5 albums under his name and has appeared on hundreds of others as Jim, why does Ragah keep calling him James Beard?
Sounds pretty pretentious, elevated and pompous, unless of course they are cousins.
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009, 00:25:09 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
You'll only hurt yourselves if you ignore my wisdom and insight.
If my fear that someone else gets to perform more fellatio than me bothers you. Join the club.
But I will not apologize for being concerned with how often people from France shower.
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 23:17:16 ET
Posted by: Demento,
= Trout. Just ignore folks.
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 21:25:42 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
Doc, your cranky-middle-aged-ol'-pothead act is getting mighty old. Hang it up, whydontcha?
Ben Ratliff of the NYT is a much better, not to mention funnier, writer than Doc. Here's two paragraphs that blend humor and good critical judgment of Aja Night in NYC:
On the Aja album:
"It was a progressive jazz record with backbeats, a ’70s hipster’s extension of what had been Gil Evans’s vision two decades earlier. Like Evans, the group’s two principals, Donald Fagen and Walter Becker, became obsessed with thematic development through long pieces. They didn’t lean on a conventional pop formula for musical structure. The songs on “Aja” have multiple strains and fascinating bridges; the horn and guitar solos often worked with entirely new sets of changes. It has light surfaces and deep rhythm-pockets with whispers of disco. It is one of the all-time great drumming records. It’s also one of the all-time-great how-good-is-your-stereo records. Its perfectionism could seem oppressive or fishy, lab-based and possibly android. Hearing its songs on the radio reminds me of the smell of new plastic."
On Don:
"In a band with almost zero stage presence, he’s a wild card, a kind of gothic Muppet: arms moving up and down like monster claws, jaw opening wide on every line. His voice faltered a few times, the normal erosion of age. But he was deep in the music, singing rhythmically and playing astonishingly good keyboards: unprepossessing solos, swinging, nasty and percussive, a cross between Count Basie and Ray Charles."
This is mighty tasty stuff. Full review here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/arts/music/30steely.html
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 20:55:35 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
Anyone else surmise that Hoops gave rajie-dodgie a good spankin' a few months ago; he's oh so mild-mannered as of late. Nah, there ain't no "best to come" on this tour except for the lucky few to see Larry...if I were the rest of the ticket-holders, I'd be really fucking pissed at this band/tour/management (wouldn't be surprised if Don is doin' a Mozart thing after singing Wu...might be lights out, theatrically-speaking). D&W, if it is to be, will bumble their way thru the rest of this tour and wonder why it is, in retrospect 2 years from now, why it is their only options are play dates with the doobies or take a fuckin' hike.
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 17:00:26 ET
Posted by: Duncan, .
I'm with you on that ... I’m only 42 for Christ sakes! Do I have to be 60 to here EMG live?
I still think there’s room for some of the ‘’newer classics’’ in a future set & I’d pay to here / see it again…
After Piano Jazz I really thought there was a possibility of a 3-4 piece ‘’thing’’ going out
that really would be something
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 16:34:13 ET
Posted by: Jack Webb, Pinks
No doubt London with Elliot(on just ONE song)was magical, Frank & I
will take TWO shows with Larry and a chance for more LA friends to
stop by ANY day. Not to mention Internet Request & the chance to hear "Wu". We'd also have to say that the "roar" that Boston crowd made when Donald announced "they would play two" drowned the noise made at the London Apollo when Elliot was announced. As far as Marvin vs Michael, No contest. But hey, Marvin could finish out the run.
....just the facts & chili dogs
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 16:29:27 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Oh no, Duncan, the best is yet to be. Donald continues to work at his craft, there are things in store for us in years to come from him that will continue to thrill. I am so very sure of this...
His race is not yet run and by extension, neither are ours, we all have so much more to do. So let's get to it.
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 16:05:16 ET
Posted by: duncan, .
''Here Here'' Rajah
After London I'm afraid it all downhill from here...
I hope of course Im proved wrong, But what/Where next ?
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 15:38:26 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Grogster, from my experience in Rome a few weeks ago, they sound better than ever. These are among the best musicians in the world at what they do. But the one thing I must say with all the objectivity I can muster is that Steely Dan with Marvin Stamm, James Beard, Janice Pendarvis, Tawatha Agee and Catherine Russell comprise their best lineup.
Just so. Gia.
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 15:15:14 ET
Posted by: Grogster, New York
Sure Hope Donald is feeling better for this weekends gigs...will be seeing them sat..cant wait to hear Wu finally and others..also seeing them at the MGM....for thos of you who see them often..this will be my 6th and 7th time...last time was with Mcdonald..my ques is how are they sounding these days vs a few years ago?..love the fact we have the 3 singers back..i feel it really adds the extra depth....cant wait til Sat to see Carlton too!..
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 14:14:05 ET
Posted by: Thefez98, Boston
Tripel, there is no show scheduled for tonight. The next show is tomorrow night (Royal Scam night) and as of now it is still on.
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 13:57:57 ET
Posted by: Tripel, NYC
Any health/cancellation updates? Is tonight's show definitely a go?
I went Wednesday (amazing) and am plannign to go again Fri, but want to make sure there isn't a liklihood of another cancellation...
cheers,
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 12:45:50 ET
Posted by: I'm with you mad doctors, !
Wowwee. If I wasn't certain that facebook wasn't one of the most evil enterprises ever conceived, I'd be all over the Fogel thang!
As someone who has certain powers, I sentence Rajie to never hear Here Comes the Sun or Strawberry Fields Forever again.
HE may appeal my verdict. Or Quatloos work just as well!
What no "billy da fisherman" society? Love the guy. Love em.
YOURS
INARA GEORGE FAN
ps. Everyone knows shari is the power behind good king Pete and a cool chick.
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 12:39:06 ET
Posted by: Roll your cart, p
A new documentary about shopping malls that is conceptually similar to The Last Mall. It should have been used in the soundtrack. Check out the trailer.
http://heleneklodawsky.com/films/
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 11:07:03 ET
Posted by: Jerome Aniton, wherever...
he is here tonight: join the Pete Fogel Appreciation Society group on Facebook!!!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=113847376594&ref=mf
don't met out on a damn good thang..............
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 10:22:35 ET
Posted by: the , thinker
imagine denying yourself the pure joy of hearing beatles and brian wilson music? i can't.
god morning good morning good morning gah!
NYC CAN!
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 09:34:55 ET
Posted by: Janie Runaway, NY
New York Times review of Tuesday's show:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/arts/music/30steely.html?
_r=1&scp=3&sq=steely%20dan&st=cse
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 08:42:56 ET
Posted by: Gary Nu,
*************HOW COME NO CLIP LINKS FOR WU LIVE???*****************
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 08:36:03 ET
Posted by: web search, up
NY times announcement of postponed show. Nothing we don't already know.
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/steely-dan-postpones-tonights-show/
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2009, 07:19:17 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
fezzie and Dean, those are some thoughts worth pondering from you. Unlocking Steely Dan songs requires acute attention and a deeper appreciation of them takes some musical knowledge, a little music theory training and knowledge of what people like JS Bach and Ellington and Richard Rogers and Bacharach were about, plus an ear for poetry, people like TS Eliot, Ezra Pound from the early modern British era as well as the greats like the Bard himself, Miltonesque dark characters certainly, James Joyce and beat poets ala Ferlinghetti and Ginsberg, prose greats like Bukowski and Burroughs.
That's my considered academic evaluation of their influences starting from my post graduate days and all my subsequent study. I remain a student of music and literature to this day, it gives me great pleasure.
So if that might sound pretty high falutin, so be it. I'm not apologizing for my experience of them. Anybody who just wants to dance to KC or Bohdi and grooves of various styles are not excluded.
The Beach Boys, Beatles and Stones produced some seriously representative work, their music was what I was weaned on. But I don't lisen to them anymore. When I was a child, as the scripture says, I concerned myself with childish things. When I became a man, I put those childish things away. But not without a fondness that remains.
fez, since you asked, the 70s found me in days of young fatherhood, study of the classics and wearing lots of tights and codpieces in the classical theatre. Great days and along with my activities came these Steely Dan records and an appreciation that continues to grow.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 23:33:05 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
fezzie,
I think I got it.
Keep in mind that all of us here are Steely Dan fans, and the vast majority of us here aren't superficial fans, by any means. I don't judge (or certainly don't mean to judge) fellow posters by when they started to listen to The Dan, or how much they know about them.
I assure you, there are posters here who know far more about SD, and music in general, than I do. And I learn things from posters here, all the time. You are correct when you assert that the music is what is central here, the rest is ego (and/or bullshit). Anyway you got to appreciate Steely Dan is fine by me. For me, initially, it was thinking that Do it Again sounded a little like Santana (I was a big fan) and thinking Dirty Work was sublime. Reelin in the Years was the perfect spring/summer crusin song. It took a while before i got to the deeper stuff.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 23:16:16 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston
Dean,forgive this old dude for expressing his lack of knowledge in regard to the history and musical nuance of the boy's catalog.I wish i had your and raj's knowledge of their music in general.My point was directed at my own inexperience and while i was there very early i knew nothing more than what i liked and what i heard as a young man,never understanding or anticipating what would develop in the future.My point to you and to raj is to always take into consideration that most people don't have your knowledge or experience in regard to the history of STEELY DAN and that both of you are looked to for constructive insight as well as critical analysis,your opinion means something,at least to me......Fezzie
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 22:43:33 ET
Posted by: We should all be Kings, A far off land
Kaz, ask the right people in the right way (but don't do it on this board) and you can locate a copy of that entire London 1974 show. It is not among the truly rare bootleg/soundboard/demos.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 22:35:45 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
fezzie,
I have to admit I have zero idea what you are getting at. I never saw them live in the 70's either.
Seriously, I like you as a poster, and if I have offended you somehow, please be a little bit clearer, so I can apologize, or at least explain where I am coming from. Right now, I can't figure out what the issue is.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 22:29:03 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
There's this little nugget, from an email to Hoops printed in the latest Dandom Digest (an excerpt):
Following a rather stilted interview on the highly regarded Radcliffe and Maconie show last week (BBC Radio 2, 14 July), when Stuart Maconie struggled with a clearly bored duo (especially Don), Maconie lambasted the pair in a weekly slot (though he didn't name names it was pretty clear to whom he referred) he has in a weekly magazine (this week's Radio Times). He notes how the pair were smart-arses who clearly loathed the process of promoting their records but who should remember who put them where they were...
...Now I know the duo are known and loved for their sardonic wit and penchant for word games in interviews. Yet I felt this time they went beyond this into different territory. They weren't witty, they were rude and, worse, boring. I found the whole thing rather sad and tasteless, to be frank, and beneath them...
Well, that interview was discussed here, soon after the broadcast. Most of us agreed, Maconie did a terrible job and asked obvious and/or inane questions. I gave him at least some credit, as he managed to get fairly decent answers our of Don and Walt. But seriously, if an interviewer is surprised with getting attitude from Don and Walt, he/she hasn't done their homework. To keep their interest you have to do far better than the weak effort given by Maconie. He may have a great reputation, but he didn't impress me at all, with that interview.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 22:20:02 ET
Posted by: fezzie, boston
Dean,i have listened to you and rajah with an open mind for a long time and for what it's worth i must respond to you both.I am not one to get into every nuaunce of every song,i have been a fan since 1970 when the boys played the whiskey and were so bad in comparison to today!!Please,will you both inform me how together you were in regard to your lives back in 1970? Personally,I was homeless,helpless and hapless kid in LA trying to find out what the hell life was all about.I never got in to see them but you can bet i listened from outside.So the seed was planted.23 years later i got to see them live for the first time and the rest is history.My point to you both is don't judge others experiences or knowledge as less than yours,it's just different.I have just made a statement that i have told no one in all the years that i have been involved with the community.It was not a happy time in my life.My voyage in the wilderness if you will.We are all drawn together by the music,thats the constant,anything else is ego.....Fezzie
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 21:50:03 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
Save - I can't stop listening to Pearl of the Quarter lately. Such an awesome song. I don't expect to hear it, but I sure would like to. Midnite Cruiser, Dirty Work, Fire in the Hole, damn, they could just play Can't Buy a Thrill and I'd be out of my mind happy.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 21:43:30 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
Thanks to whoever posted the live King of the World recording. I enjoyed it thoroughly.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 21:27:35 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, stillboredathome
Dean, thanks for tip. A couple of shows I can't get there b4 8; Figured SD on around 9 like last year. Did not mind SY and do like getting my moneys worth. All my tickets-box office and ticketmaster printed say 8. Main concern being arriving @ 830-45 and missing SD songs especially any of the 3 request nights. I'll check venue prior to going.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 21:19:57 ET
Posted by: save, nyc
1. Whats a Cobalt Cigarette? (Maybe DF smoked one and had to cancel?)
2. Odds on- Fire in the Hole 750/1
3. Razor Boy 700/1
4. Pearl of the Quarter 650/1
5. With a Gun 600/1
6. Through with Buzz...NL
7. Dr. Wu.......
Any takers??
See y'all Aug 4th!!
and maybe 8/10 who knows--
i'll be drinkin my dinner from a
paper sack....
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 21:10:49 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
Sam Yahel came on at 7:56 last night and SD started at 8:45.
The tickets for all of the NYC shows say 8:00, and they mean it!
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 21:04:47 ET
Posted by: stubhubbed in the a**, look ma, no brains
My internet request ticket for 8/1 says 8pm. This is a box office ticket. If your stub hub one has 7 o'clock on it you may find yourself trying to find a REAL ticket for that hour.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 20:57:46 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
kzkzkz,
My tickets for St Augustine read 8 PM, too. I arrived at 7::55 to find I missed nearly all of Sam Yahel's set.
Play it safe, call the venue.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 20:50:28 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, homebutnothappyaboutit
For Saturday,the very first day of August 2009 my dead center up front orchestra ticket that I spent one hundred and seventy two dollars on states the show starts at 8pm. For the remaining five shows that I spent seventy four smackers each on, the tickets all say show time is 8pm. Therefore, and correct me if I'm wr- wrrr- wrroo- wrong; a combined $$$542US$$$ tells me, and you that these shows commence at 8:00 est.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 20:45:17 ET
Posted by: Newark, Eastern Sho',
Henrod: thx! I enjoyed your contribution. good show http://web.me.com/henrod/Steely_Dan/Welcome.html
--nwk
Jellyfish: I doubt Raj is gay, but good try; at least you don't have to hide in the closet anymore with the vacuum. Gag, cough
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 19:37:30 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata
Driverseven,
Sam Yahel & Friends start at 7, SD hits the stage 8 sharp!
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 18:45:26 ET
Posted by: Driverseven, Westchester NY,
Looking forward to Saturday's Beacon show, and appreciating all the reports from recent shows. I would love to know the playlist in advance.
But I am confused. The MSG.COM/Steelydan website says the show starts at 8 pm. I bought my tickets off Stubhub and it shows a 7 pm start time.
Anyone know the real time?
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 18:32:32 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour
fagenism,
Interesting question, I believe you have hit on part of the answer: The best Steely Dan has to offer is not apparent to a casual listener, and doesn't reveal itself immediately. Dan tunes are generally complex, and it takes effort, and time, to fully appreciate their true beauty. Most pop tunes are quite the opposite, all flash but little substance. Of course, the boys are such good songwriters they can even capture the attention of the great masses, with their beautiful melodies and pop hooks, from time to time.
But I think it goes further than that, even. Unlike most popular artists, Don and Walt do not pander to their audience and/or write songs based on what was popular to the masses. They made music for themselves, first and foremost. Very few artists have exercised that kind of artistic integrity and maintained it over such a long period of time. Add to that their great reluctance to do the things most artists are willing to do, to sell records and further their popular stardom. Don and Walt have no interest in being "Rock Stars".
In many ways, I reverse the question you asked, and wonder, "How did so many Steely Dan songs ever become popular with the great unwashed?" They were lucky to be around at the right time, when radio played diverse music, and wasn't as beholden to the consultant-driven playlists and cross-media forces that exist today.
It's clear to me that many who grew to like the Dan during the 70's, were drawn to the pop-side of their music. What might be less clear (but no less true) is a large percentage of those people have some trouble with the newer stuff, which lacks some of the flash of their earlier stuff...but still retains the substance. Just like Dan past, the new stuff grows and glows after repeated listening. The songs are, on the whole, more fully realized. But let's face it, they have fewer shiny things (wailing guitar solos, killer pop hooks) for those who need to have instant gratification in order to facilitate further listening.
I agree that many simply have not been properly exposed to the music of Steely Dan, and they would be better off, musically, if they were. But I also have enjoyed the bond serious Dan fans have with each other, the secret we share, that others are either incapable of knowing or unwilling to learn. It's good to see the boys experience a bit of a revival in public appreciation/adoration, from time to time. I just hope that appreciation never gets too widespread, as it will be a sure indication they are doing something wrong. The masses are morons, my friend.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 18:21:42 ET
Posted by: Danfiend, Chicago
When I heard that tonight's show was canceled I got worried. Donald, you have to take care of yourself, buddy. We can't have something happen to you too.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 18:12:09 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
Fagenism --
Some good questions there. I don't claim to have all the answers, but I do have some ideas to contribute.
Your cite the Beatles, the Stones, and the Beach Boys. All highly-talented iconic groups of the mid- to late-Sixties. By the time the Dan came along in '72, the music business was starting to change in serious ways. Homogenous AM radio was starting to give way to a less tightly constricted FM format, which by itself shouldn't have hurt D&W but tended to diffuse the focus of the mass-music audience. (I was still a radio disc jockey at that time, but the writing was on the wall [before the fall].)
By 1975, we found ourselves in (brace yourselves) the Disco Era. KC and the Sunshine Band took over the airwaves. Do The Hustle. In other words, intelligent lyrics and heavily jazz-influenced chord structures were not the order of the day. Party hearty -- just don't use your brain. It's not really a matter of the attention span of the modern man. It's more a matter of suddenly finding yourself out of step with the zeitgeist of pop culture. That's not necessarily a bad thing. You may be on the outside of the mainstream, but that doesn't mean you're wrong.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 18:00:45 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY
Yes - Don't Take Me Alive was in last night's set:
Aja album
Daddy Don't Live (Walter lead vocal)
Time Out of Mind
God Whacker
Babylon Sisters
Show Biz Kids
Parker's Band
Hey Nineteen
(band intros)
Black Friday
Do It Again
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Encore:
Reeling in the Years
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 17:58:01 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -
RANDOM THOUGHTS.
Why is that Steely Dan failed to become one of the giants as far as mainstream success is concerned, along with acts like The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Beach Boys etcetera?
When I mention Steely Dan to friends they either say "never heard of them", "oh, they did that Rikki song right?" or - my least favorite - "is HE still around?"
The fact that Steely Dan and Donald Fagen are not household names is a mystery to me, considering the downright ridiculous quality of the works. It is kind of sad knowing how many music lovers out there will never be exposed to the chord sequence of The Great Pagoda Of Funn; the groove of the story of the GodWhacker; the epic saga that is True Companion.
Could it be because the Dan/Don catalogue is not something you *get* upon first listening? Is the attention span of the modern man simply too short to appreciate true art?
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 17:45:25 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Did they or didn't they play Don't Take Me Alive last night? Someone earlier posted that as part of the setlist.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 17:26:22 ET
Posted by: zootnewton, NYC
SD setlist 7/28/09 Beacon
Teenie's Blues
Black Cow
Aja
Deacon Blues
- Carolyn Leonhart flips an LP on stage
Peg
Home At Last
I Got The News
Josie
Daddy Don't Live (WB vocals)
Time Out Of Mind
Godwhacker
Babylon Sisters
Showbiz Kids
Parker's Band (the girls on vocals)
Hey 19
band intros (Itchin' In My Heart)
Black Friday
Do It Again
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Encore:
Reelin' In The Years (CBAT version. Horns present but didn't play)
walkoff to Last Tango
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 17:22:38 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
hoop - oh great cleanser; someone has stolen my identity (I'll assume they are one of your chosen); PLEASE delete this post that was posted Wed, July 29, 2009, 15:49:31 ET so as to keep you nose clean in terms of all posters boot-licking your details; is this a setup and are your manipulating this board; hmmmmm?
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 17:03:06 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown cubicle
Henrod, thanks: very nice.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 16:29:37 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, onmywaybackhome
Tonight's show is POSTPONED. Rescheduled for August 12th. All other shows remain as scheduled. I just passed by the Beacon and received this info.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 16:08:18 ET
Posted by: Thefez98, Boston
Concern - You had me 'concerned' when you posted that SD cancelled the remainder of the tour. I don't know if you were just being a pr#ck or did not read the original post of just tonight's show being postponed due to Uncle Donald being under the weather. I just double-checked the SD website and it still indicates just tonight's show is postponed. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just interpreted the initial posting about tonight's show incorrectly ;)
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 15:57:51 ET
Posted by: henrod, long island, ny
I post pix and video from last night's show here:
http://web.me.com/henrod/Steely_Dan/Welcome.html
Enjoy.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 15:49:31 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
I would like everyone to know that I am a retard douchebag that lives in my parent's basement and I havent had a girlfriend since my high school prom in 1986. I sleep in a race car bed with super mario bros sheets and collect mcdonalds happy meal prizes.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 15:46:49 ET
Posted by: Concern,
WTF SD just cancelled the 2009 tour?
I had tickets for all 4 shows in Chicago
Must have been bad ticket sales.
o well maybe next year
What a bummer
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 15:45:39 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
My Old School and Black Cow from last night's show now on youtube.....
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 15:01:18 ET
Posted by: LadyBayside, NYCish
Donald, though sounding great last night, was hoarse and did complain that he had a cold but would 'soldier on'. He probably was even hoarser today and decided to get two days' rest rather than chance cancelling weekend shows. Supposedly tonight will be rescheduled, as opposed to a refund.
LadyB
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 14:59:09 ET
Posted by: Thefez98, Boston
Sorry to hear about Donald's illness and the cancellation of tonight's show. If it is any consolation for those holding tickets, Donald's solo show in Boston on a raw, March Thursday in 2006 was also cencelled and he ended up putting on a hell of a show on a beautiful Spring Saturday night two days later. Hope the same is true here for the Dan.
BTW - Some of these recent posters need to get over themselves.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 14:44:36 ET
Posted by: King of the World, 1974 in London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtsqhrJ60Ws
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 14:34:46 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
- as we lose sight of what's important; where are the reports/set list of last night's show???? (seems a watershed-moment in terms of what the rest of the tour portends);
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 14:30:59 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
some - why is my message too harsh for you? Can we stay on point; why, when I use journalistic emphasis does it become an inquiry about my lifestyle, upbringing (isn't that then?); now don't get me wrong, I can handle a hard, inside insult as much as the next guy so, as this isn't a census, let's stick to just what I mention in my posts and you can have your way with me about that content; BTW check for rajie's "emphasis" in his previous posts and see if you have a bitch with me about it.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 14:27:13 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Dr. Demento:
PLEASE GO AWAY!!!!
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 14:16:58 ET
Posted by: Some, perspective
Dr.Demento
The only thing you manage to communicate consistently on this site is the load of pent up anger you carry on your shoulders day to day. What's the problem? Lonely? No girlfriend (or boyfriend)? Your pets keep dying prematurely? Never knew your parents?
Try therapy or does being so dark actually make you happy?
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 14:05:31 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Sad face
According to steelydan.com tonight's concert has been CANCELLED. Reschedule info to follow.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 14:02:25 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
hoops - awaiting your delete key (it's right next to your miniscule testes)
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 13:59:55 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
For all those (like hoops) that are bowing-up against me, stand down as I saw the Pretzel Logic Tour; yeah, MM, JP et. al. Don't think hoops (think he was still in poopie diappies then), dean, rajie-dodgie have the market cornered on knowing the Dan; if you'll follow the threads, you'll see none of the aforementioned were in attendance at that time so, therefore, are self-proclaimed "johnny-come-lately" douches who really don't know dick (yeah, you too Iowa; loose meat sandwich fuck-head) except for the fact that they studied some "soft-hands journalism" shit and can blow regally hard (according to their boy-friends...right, dean?). BTW King of the World kicked ass then. Anyone that wants to know what that that concert was like, just post with a subject line of "Hoops Douche"; raj, dean and iowa can be substituted for "hoops". BTW: notice how rajie-dodgie declines to get into it with me; he knows I have his number.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 13:26:15 ET
Posted by: zootnewton, NYC
Donald announced last night that he "had a cold but would soldier on." I wouldn't be surprised if tonight's show was canceled. I would call The Beacon to make sure.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 13:02:16 ET
Posted by: newerkes, S. of the Mason-Dixon line
Dr. Demento: Your sobriquet is not original--it's borrowed and boring. "Jellyfish" describes you better: you're everywhere, you have tentacles, you are transparent, and you sting? yea right. oh, you made a typo--you stink. that's better. nwk
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 12:54:05 ET
Posted by: jane, you ignorant slut
slang of ages is the best recorded song of all time.
and was great live although it was ruined by sliding the intros into it.
do you clowns even listen to these songs?
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 12:50:26 ET
Posted by: frets, nyc
Beacon last night:
Pretty thrilling to have the whole Aja in a row. Jim Beard is a great addition; Catherine Russell is one of the best singers around.
Donald admitted had a head cold and he skipped a bunch of notes (e.g., home at last 'who (*wrote*) that tired sea song'), and his voice kinda movingly cracked when he sang 'I cried when I wrote this song'.
Band was more fidelitous to the original Aja arrangements, aside from that tired skipped extra beat in Home at Last (well the, UNGH, pause, danger on the rocks...)
The Godwhacker arrangement for horns is so stale by now.
Huge highlight was a reharmonized Do it Again chorus. Is this arrangement new to this tour? The straight ahead Reelin' encore was killin', too.
I can think of two dozen tenor sax players I'd rather hear than Weiskopf, whose playing I find clinical and soulless. Herington is tremendous, and Carlock is a true gem -- check out his band Rudder's first album.
New Beacon sounds great -- though there were a lot of dudes around clapping on the downbeat.
From memory, order may be off, and no guaranteed completeness:
Teenie's Blues
COMPLETE AJA (Carolyn starting a turntable on stage before Black Cow and turned the LP over midway)
Daddy Don't Live (WB vocals)
Time Out of Mind
Godwhacker
Babylon Sisters
Parker's Band
Show Biz Kids (last year's re-arrangement)
Hey 19 (WB gives a bored interlude)
Love Itchin in My Heart
Do It Again (with awesome modulated chorus)
Black Friday
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid C
Encore:
Reelin' (straight ahead)
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 12:47:27 ET
Posted by: JJ,
fagenism and Kaz - I tell you what. I'll stick to Donald Fagen's opinion. He was quoted has saying EMG is (much) better than 2VN. That's from the horses mouth...not mine. I'm just agreeing with him.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 12:34:11 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
Regarding King of the World.
Also one of my favourite cuts (deep or otherwise)
Am I correct in thinking that the rather superb bass playing on the original CTE recording is our Walter?
If so then I'm guilty of seriously underrating him as a bassist.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 11:31:38 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Kaz: King of the World was played at least on their 1974 tour, and I would guess it was played on their 1973 one as well. I do not believe it was played in the early 1990s. On the 70s versions I've heard, Donald Fagen has referred to that particular song as a "frightening little number."
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 11:30:31 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -
What I meant to say was that King Of World was never performed during the 90's tours. It was, however, played live in the 70's.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 11:29:29 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -
Kaz:
King Of The World has never been performed live.
There are, however, a few good covers on YouTube if I am not mistaken. It happens to be my brother's favorite Dan tune too.
The Jack Of Speed groove is indeed perfect. It is one of the most underrated songs in the whole Dan catalogue if you ask me. People bitch about how the album version was slicker than the Walter sung live version, which is obviously true. But is it a bad thing? Hell no. It is an eerie little masterpiece of a song. "World's coolest cautionary tale" as someone once said.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 11:21:19 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
kaz, no wrong to me as I have huge "listening" ears; maybe you need to re-calibrate your gear so here's a recomendation. Marantz 22 series receiver, Dynaco A25 speakers and then pick your harsh signal source (you strike me as an MP3 guy..and one of those soft hands guys that drives a desk, huh?). Don't cross me with your pretentions bro, I can fly in under Hoop-douche's radar occasionally and sting you pretty bad.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 11:17:38 ET
Posted by: Drew, red bank
Did anyone see any extras outside the venue last night?
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 11:15:53 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
Dr. Demento, I am sorry if you were wronged at some point by stereo equipment, but my post was related to the song writing, lyrics and musicianship. While the mix is important, I would not use it as the sole ground for evaluating an album.
I am sure the debate could be endless, but I did want to mention that Jack of Speed and What a Shame About Me are songs I listen to regularly. Jack of Speed's groove is excellent, and the lyrics to "Shame" are hilarious.
If I may shift gears a little, has King of the World ever been performed live? I wasn't old enough to see them in the early 90s, so I am not sure what those setlists were like. I have seen every tour since 2000, and it was never played. Has it ever come up? I would love to hear it live. It is my personal "Dr. Wu," if you will.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 11:12:29 ET
Posted by: still waiting, whyyouneedtoknow
Blah blah blah 2vN and EMG were great simply for the fact that we waited forever for new stuff. Almost Gothic is brilliant, classic SD material as is Godwacker. Now qwitcherbitchin' and post the rest of last nights Beacon setlist! C'mon M and M, had to be more than album+Old School+Reelin'.Geez folks, get yer priorities straight. SETLIST??? NOW!!!
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 10:57:55 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
Beast w/o a Name has it right; I suspect many of the posters here need to invest in some decent 2 channel vintage audio gear; none of that home theater shit y'all think is the cat's puss (all that HT stuff is shit except the stuff only D&W can afford); get some good, revealing vintage gear off craigslist to lop-off that harsh digital glare y'all are hearing and have become accustomed-to on every fucking thing you play and then listen to EMG; really sweet compared to that malpracticed abortion TVN and Kama that Scheiner, et. al engineered; I tell ya, they should have a class action soon lodged against them for engineering that crap (my soapdish could make a better sounding mix).
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 10:48:27 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Name, Pinecliff Lake, NJ
I believe it was Jack Nicholson who once said in one of his many films in which he communicated with cordial malice, "Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one."
Holes are subjective. What one person likes alot, someone else might be ambivalent, or even hateful.
With that, I only listen to Gaslighting Abby, Negative Girl, Janie off 2vN with any regularity. That said, I listened to Cousin Dupree yesterday for the first time in ages and sang along.
EMG I feel was a better record because of the warmer sound in terms of production. The drums sounded more live. 2vN sounded more antiseptic, like Kamakiriad. The title track, Green Book and Lunch with Gina are the best ones.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 10:38:24 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -
Kaz:
Agreed.
Slang Of Ages is not only A Hole but The Only Hole on the album, in my book.
Whereas Two Against Nature seems clinically hole-free to me.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 10:32:53 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -
JJ:
I guess that following the same logic you would put the latest Britney Spears album above Everything Must Go? :)
On a serious note, I do appreciate Everything Must Go. It is a fantastic album, especially in combination with Two Against Nature, as the feel of the albums seem to complement each other.
But Two Against Nature is just so uber-slick it makes you want to hop a bus for NYC and dance the night away with a nice gal in the summer rain.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 10:30:04 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
JJ and Fagenism --
Had to chime in on this one...
First of all, lets not use number of records sold as the basis for a record's quality. It is reasonable to assume that the success of Everything Must Go was connected to the Grammy win for TVN.
Both albums are solid, but I think TVN is much better start to finish. Everything Must Go has some great tracks (the title track is a personal favorite) but there are some holes in the album. "Slang of Ages" for example.
The groove on all of the TVN tracks is excellent, and I think it has more of a signature sound than EMG.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 10:27:01 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 09:59:28 ET
Posted by: JJ,
fagenism - "Two Against Nature really is superior to Everything Must Go"
I guess whatever light you see is turned off. EMG is way better than TVN! That's why it's constantly out selling it!
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 09:46:15 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -
Since I recently made my first post in a very long time (with regards to Doctor Wu's status in the Dan catalogue) I might as well add one more thing:
I finally see the light.
Two Against Nature really is superior to Everything Must Go. It is the gold standard against which all other pop endeavours should be measured.
Again, "otherworldly" is the only word that comes to mind. I used to be a little skeptical about What A Shame About Me and Janie Runaway. I honestly do not know what I was thinking.
Not only do I rank the album as a whole as the finest suite of Becker/Fagen, but I also think that Almost Gothic is their grand masterpiece, if ever there was such a thing.
Hats off.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 08:55:28 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
skokie bob, good thing something on or about you can stand up.
Like It Is, thanks for having the courage to speak out; although I would necessarily call Hoops a D'head, he does feel beholden to certain interests that make for a very unhealthy hand governing this board (watch how fast this post gets deleted).
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 08:24:24 ET
Posted by: SKOKIEBOB, Standing Up
One thing that will draw me out of lurking mode immediately is some spineless Bastard / (Bastardess? Although it sounds like a masculine rant) besmirching our fearless leader. "Like It Is" needs his ass kicked for such talk on our board. Hoops, we love ya! Also, Rajah, "But where oh where is that master incidental percussionist needed for this band?" May I submit one Teena Lyle for our dreaming pleasure? Can you just imagine? And while we're at it, throw in a Candy Dulfur to the Horn section. Middle aged male issues? Nah! Well, probably.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 02:36:51 ET
Posted by: DrMu,
I think we're merging song with production. Wu does what it will...and gets the hell out. Is it Aja or Caves in production value? Nope
But then Fagen's other most fab penned songs Night Belongs to Mona & Pixeleen ride the wave and pick up the board also.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 00:38:43 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Bill: I also have noticed that they seem to be sticking closer to the original versions of songs during solos for the most part whether they are quoting them or playing them note for note. (I have heard a version of Here at the Western World that has a carbon copy of the original guitar solo). I think they are doing this consciously as it appears they are trying to recreate the studio versions for the album and internet request nights. I have a few other theories that lead me to believe this is true.
1. A few songs that were left off of the 52 song voting list were Midnight Cruiser, Monkey in Your Soul, and Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More. I would guess that those were left off (despite the fact they have been played on tours before, including Daddy which has been a staple of this particular tour) because Walter sings them, and they felt it would be unfair to not play original versions if fans were requesting them. Since the originals, excluding Midnight Cruiser, were sung by Donald, it would not have been fair by that logic to include them on the list. This is just speculation of course.
2. Haitian Divorce and Gaucho had been previously sung by Walter on recent tours. As we now know, Donald has taken over the lead on those songs for the album nights. He obviously didn't have to do that, but I think he did that to maintain the authenticity of the albums. As well, both of those songs were included on the voting list, and I think that fits in with the previous theory.
3. They are bringing Larry Carlton to perform on The Royal Scam and Internet Request Nights. That adds even more authenticity, whatever his role may be.
4. In a recent interview, Donald Fagen said something to the effect that the reason why they are not performing earlier albums is because the songs were written for a more rock oriented sound, rather than the big band jazz sound they have now. A lot of those songs were left off of the voting list as well. I would argue that they don't feel like they can play those songs in their original versions for the most part with a horn section/in the style that play in now. Take Reelin' in the Years, for instance. On the occasions that they've played the original version of that song, the horn section disappears. They could play the Alive in America version, which is the same song but arranged differently. But they have been playing the original and a completely new version, which is essentially a different song. The new version fits their current band better than the original I think, yet the original is still in their repertoire so fans can vote for what they actually heard on the radio. I realize there are semi-exceptions like Show Biz Kids and Dirty Work, but they even modified previously rearranged songs like Sign in Stranger and Here at the Western World (on Donald's 2006 tour) to fit the original versions.
Like I said, this is just speculation, but it makes sense with the fact that they are playing the songs closer to their original versions.
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 00:13:17 ET
Posted by: Mark&Marie, NJ
BEACON TONITE!
Only one Encore, Reelin in the Years! MY Old School was moved to near end of main set. Following Aja Album, longest ovation we have ever heard at a Steely Dan concert!!!! Awesome!
At start of show, Carolyn walked up to front table, put a vinyl record on turntable, lowered the arm, and the notes started playing before anyone could figure out is an Album playing on loudspeaker, or the Band? Black Cow opening notes were dead on!
Does anyone know if the Beacon setlist for Saturday, is the same internet request nite as Boston? WE never voted. Thought MSG site was for Boston show. Maybe it was for all request nites? All for Wu and Wu for all (on internet request nights).
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 00:11:16 ET
Posted by: tuba110, Perry, Ohio
Been about three years, but I've been sitting by patiently awaiting the Dan's return to Cleveland. When I saw that they played Dr. Wu the other night, I felt like all was right with the world again. It'd be like the Pink Floyd getting together again and playing "Fearless" and nothing else.
I remember being at Blossom in 06 just hoping that for some odd reason, they'd play Dr. Wu. I knew the soundchecked it on that tour, but didn't play it. It's by far my favorite SD tune, so well constructed. I can only sit by and continue to wait for them to return to Blossom and hope that I might one day hear their masterpiece in person!
Date: Wed, July 29, 2009, 00:01:49 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, TALL county Ar
Bear in mind: WB/DF are led by management-- like sheep. And for $400large/night, they don't care who knows it.
Klaus, you're right. It is/was Christmas mode.
Congrats to all receivers. Hope we all get lucky(er) this year.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 23:10:11 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
I recently heard some of Hiram's "Hiram Bullock Plays The Music Of Jimi Hendrix" and it was terrific.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 22:54:35 ET
Posted by: Bill from da 'Burgh,
Should have remembered that. Hiram was a killer player! He could go from Hendrix to Wes Montgomery and back in about two measures and make it work. Saw him several times in clubs, once with Jaco and Kenwood Denard (aka "PDB") - now that was a power trio! Gone too soon.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 22:52:01 ET
Posted by: Bill again,
In Boston, JH nailed the RITY opening solo closer to the record than ER did in London. I've never been much for note-for-note solos (turn up the Eagles...) but if you're gonna do it, this is a great song to do it on! He mixes up the middle solo a bit. Some miscues toward the end - did Donald get lost and repeat the chorus?
From what I've heard so far, on this tour the band is staying closer to the recorded versions of a number of songs that they have futzed with in past years.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 22:51:49 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Bill- That would be the late Hiram Bullock
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 22:26:20 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
"My Rival" is sweet - ought to be in the regular rotation. Beard on B3? DF on Rhodes or Melodica? The vocals contain some of the all time great Fagen Sneers. Walter does a nice solo, too. I forget who did the original, Steve Khan?
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 21:53:52 ET
Posted by: Denise, H
&^%$, that article is &^%$ funny.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 21:51:51 ET
Posted by: seth2112, cleveland, via nyc and tampa fl
where are the beacon twitters?
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 21:04:10 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
Can somebody help an old fart out here? I just tried to join the Green Room for the first time. I can follow everything, but can't figure out how to join the conversation. In the words of the fly, "Help me! Help me!"
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 20:33:57 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, .
When the tour was announced with the multi-night sets, I was wondering why the order of the nights wasn't Scam - Aja - Gaucho - Internet. Now I see why - so the Larry Carlton nights would be back to back. Some genius mentioned last week that they had to bring in Larry because the tickets weren't selling. WRONG! Larry was planned from the start.
Mark in Boston
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 20:31:24 ET
Posted by: &^%$, &%^$%&#
And now for something a little different...
On musicians and their fans and the appreciation of each by the other, plus an erudite analysis of profanity usage to boot...
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1608
:-)
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 19:09:53 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
Klaus --
Oh, hell no, I wasn't the mental defective that forgot his meds and went on a rant about Hoops. I was simply the guy who had the post immediately prior to yours! An attempt at humor, gone bad.
I still think DNA swabs might be in order at some point.....
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 19:04:58 ET
Posted by: Kalvin, Portsmouth, England
Kaz - Hope this does'nt come as too much of a surprise, but I agree with you with regards to the Dr Wu performance on Saturday. As much as it was indeed nothing less than an honour, a priviledge and an aural pleasure to be there to witness it in it's full glory, on a personal level it not only every so slightly detracted from Rikki (because I knew what was coming next, so unfortunately could'nt give Rikki my full attention), but yes I agree the band obviously were'nt that keen on playing it and did give the impression that they were, albeit ever so slightly, just going through the motions. However I got to hear it, and that coupled with ass wipingly awesome performances of (in my humble opinion) Black Friday, Dirty Work, Black Cow, Josie, Kid Charlamagne and the killer closer Dirty Water, made this the best (so far) of the eleven occasions I have been fortunate enough to witness them live.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 19:03:36 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
Dr Wu/ Please tell me you were kidding about you being the previous poster' you have always been insightful about all things Dan.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 18:54:36 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
Foreward Girl/ I would love to help you down off your soapbox like a gentleman' but the fact is you were there and need to preach to the masses/you go girl. I cant believe after all these years of reading the blue that some are crying by the fact that we finally got what we wanted. Cmon you guys/ Christ if Don and Walt do visit the blue they must think we are all whacked except for Hoops and Foreward Babe.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 18:52:42 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
As the previous poster, all I can say is "Ow! That hurt, Klaus!"
While I have a certain perverse fondness for "Goodbye To Jane," I can truly say that as far as I'm concerned, Kiss can Kiss Off. And what's Howard Stern??
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 18:40:11 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
To the previous poster[ I already forgot your name] get out of the Custerdome' Hoops pays for us to run our thoughts and the fact that your shit got thru is proof that he lets some shit go. What the hell value was in your rant anyway. Keep it about the Dan and not your childish shit. May I suggest a Slade or Kiss blog perhaps? It is not worth the few minutes out of my life or any other serious Daniac to scroll thru your bullshit just for shock value' stay home and watch Howard Stern. And May God BLESS You.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 18:32:50 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
Rajah --
I don't always know what the hell you're talking about, but you're preaching to the choir with your desire to hear YGT/YGTII as a medley. I've been collaring people in the streets for years saying "Wouldn't that be just the greatest? WOULDN'T IT??" There are several restraining orders out against me, but I don't give a damn.
Hoops --
Obviously, you need to do something to screen out the mental defectives. Blood tests? DNA swabs?
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 18:30:32 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
What is happening here? Is the heat getting to some of us? Are we complaining about Wu? I was in the 6th row center and it sounded just dandy to me. Do we really need to pick apart their body language while they played it? I was happy to drink my big Dr. Wu and get outta there.
Let's just hope the boys are loving playing with this band behind them and loving the $$$ coming in and that this isn't a give-em-what-they-want-so-we-can-take-a-couple-years-off tour.
Can somebody help me down from this soapbox?
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 18:22:38 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour
LA would be the perfect time to break out Gold Teeth II, Get Denny to sit in, and Bob's your uncle.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 18:20:28 ET
Posted by: Like it is,
Hoops is one dickhead fucker who thinks he owns Steely Dan.
He hangs around with his sycophants who suck his dick often and DICKtates what people can say.
How much longer will he hold Steely Dan fans hostage?
Hoops is evidence of what a fucked up world this is.
Die you Nazi slime bag!!!!
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 18:18:50 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Lonnie, we must admit Steely Dan has now delved pretty deep into their catalogue at this point with this band, as they promised, after 6 tours in 9 years. There's just a few tunes left, most of them from the Steely Dan I & II era and then 2vN and EMG.
But right now, a medley of YGT I & II would have to be the next thrill we can't buy.
YGT II takes needs that majestic Victor Feldman opening on vibes or maybe a James Beard virtuoso entry solo on grand piano would serve. We'd settle for either, yes? But where oh where is that master incidental percussionist needed for this band?
But all in all, they are doing well on this summer's tour, acquitted themselves well in Europe, specially with Marvin Stamm, and have come back to the US with a renewed energy. No, they're not done yet.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 18:00:26 ET
Posted by: Lonnie THE Kingpin, Wu-ville
Hello one and all:
So many on the Blue for years and years (and via the Digest) have begged and pleaded for the playing of DOCTOR WU and other classics that have never been played live before during the actual show -- before Boston on July 25th. Any Major Dude and Rikki, of course, were played in 19 and 74 before they stopped touring back in the 20th Century and they also played those tunes in 1996 for the "Art Crimes" Tour.
Now, it seems that some bemoan the fact that DF and WB listened to their audience -- i.e., the people like us who support them and buy their albums, merch, etc. -- and played WU, Any Major Dude, etc. While the band may have been iffy on these tunes, perhaps if they played them more (at least WU and Any Major Dude) then they would sound a bit sharper. The fans make the artist and I think DF and WB should be mindful of this. As for me, I have heard Peg and Josie at every single Steely Dan show I have seen, and I have seen a lot of them since 19 and 93. I would rather hear new and "iffy" material like YGT II, Pearl of the Quarter, Razor Boy, Only a Fool Would Say That, Green Book, etc. instead of the classics that have been beat to death on every tour since 1993 (and in prior years). Heck, I would love to hear With a Gun. At least Austin Scaggs would agree with me, so, hey, that's cool, right?!
Oh, and another thing, will DF and WB play an extended and jazzy version of Your Gold Teeth II to open a show for once already! Damn!
Lonnie will be at the LA gigs hoping and praying to hear DOCTOR WU even if the play it with a fucking ukelele and bongos!
LTK
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 17:50:39 ET
Posted by: Never knew , it could be so good
Well, I don't know. this Peter Fogel guy seems like a run-of-the-mill career comedian.
I hope he doesn't take up too much time!
http://www.humorbureau.com/Pete%20Fogel.html
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 17:49:00 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
Hell' while I am on a roll I wonder if I could talk the great Larry Carleton into playing Detroit the last show. I have a very nice room at the venue that I would be willing to give you'[the wife and I can sleep in the SUV] I would be willing to buy your dinner also if you will only tell Don and Walt to take one for the team and do the Wu. I have not ran this by the wife yet but I think I can sell it if I tell her the guitar solo in kid was for her.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 17:16:23 ET
Posted by: Walt's Doppelgänger, Don't even know 'er
Here is my vote for mr f to intro SD.
¿How wonderful would that be?
WD
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 17:07:16 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
Yes Im with you Dr Demented!!Yes Im with you Dr.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 17:05:59 ET
Posted by: kate, vernon
ha - gotta laff, good dr.
what else is new?
the supreme redactor has crushed so many of my primo posts in the past, its almost comical - were it not so tragical.
as mel brooks says in the history of the world part I - it's good to be king!
i guess.
sixto lescano
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 17:03:32 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Of course Dr. Wu is not their masterpiece, it's a song with a strophe, ritornello and musical bridge that is worthy of a full symphony orchestra but, no, certainly not their masterpiece.
No Klaus, I was responding to an earlier post there, not yours, oh I am with you...
Many reviewers and Donald himself have said things in print that say that Dr. Wu is an unfinshed piece of music. The coda on record would seem to bear that out as well as the relative brevity of the song. The whole Katy Lied record was unsatisfactory for them, the sound, some crazy little tunes in there but they thought enough of Wu to use it as the title of the album, ever notice after CBAT , CTE and this one that they never reached for an album title other than one of the song titles? The one that maybe they considered the tune that best related a sense of which song represented the album best? Katy Lied was a disappointment for them, sonically speakin, it was their first foray into this band without a fixed band, the band was gone, it was just them. And though Katy Lied sounds great, its center does not hold. Not like what came subsequent to it.
And whom told me all this??? oh, yeah, 2 and 2 equals 4, I think.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 17:01:33 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
I did not mean it as the masterpiece of the whole works' but a masterpiece. Sorry for not making that clear. I agree w/ Gaucho prob my fav I only mean that Wu seems to be the holy grail because it has never been played/ but that said I do think it is a very beautiful tune about a very sad situation that I and others can prob relate to. The piano and Phil Woods sax make it indeed above overrated' even if Donald does not think it works live he must have thought a lot of it or it would not have seen the light of day.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 16:49:22 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
So I take it your not with me Dr Raj?
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 16:48:24 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -
We all agree that Doctor Wu is The Dan's masterpiece? Really?
Am I the only one thinking this song is a little bit overrated? I think the maestro himself was on to something when he described it as having an unfinished feeling.
Listen to cuts like Almost Gothic, Gaucho, Everything Must Go... Those songs belong in the category which can only be labelled "otherworldly", along with Nightfly Trilogy pieces like The Great Pagoda Of Funn, Snowbound and IGY. I would not put Doctor Wu in that league.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 16:45:37 ET
Posted by: shania, twain
my request for request night? DON and WALT are you listening?
invite mr wonderful one, the one and only one, mr pete fogel to introduce the band on request night in nyc.
i'm throwing it down walter carl and donald jay.
are you cool enough for the coolest!?
he's no jerome aniton or maybe he is.
we're not asking for him to sing the national anthem (although, it would be cool to hear him do a little bad sneakers).
just do it!
yours,
mo udall
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 16:45:03 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
And who told you this was their idea?
When did 2 and 2 equal 5?
Was that really an elephant in my fridge or am I seeing things?
When did Macy's tell Gimbles?
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 16:37:52 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
Dr Wu/ When I read yesterday that they broke out the Wu I almost shit myself like baby Joey. If D&W peruse this site once in a while here is the gig according to Klaus.You guys penned a song decades ago that touch the heartstrings of the faithful fans like no other. We all agree its your masterpiece to do with what you will; however I have seen your wonderful band 7 times and 8 come Sep/ have bought all your music a few times over' LPS/DISCS/ITUNES'SO I figure i have thousands invested in Steely Dan and you have never let me down. Just this once for your diehard fans' give us Dr Wu for the rest of the tour. You guys are already in a christmas mode [Elliot Randall and the orig Rity] The great Larry Carleton/ Special setlist shows a kickass band like always. We remain Danfans no matter what but give us all the ultimate highlite cause the truth is none of us live forever. I hope NY does there part and brings the house down for our boys if and when they bring the taste they said they would bring to me/us. Give us Wu for sticking w/ you guys thru thick [R&R HOF] and thin The breakup/no tours . I remain diehard Steely crazy even if you shelf it but at least there is hope' give em hell Yankee fans and you too Cubbies. Are you with me Doctor? Are you with me Doctor?
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 16:37:35 ET
Posted by: tripel, NYC
Trying to score a ticket for tonight at the Beacon -- can anyone tell me the exact timing of things? IE Sam Yahel at 8pm, Steely Dan start at 9pm? Something like that?
thanks
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 16:35:05 ET
Posted by: Just the facts,
Rajah, where did you hear or read that Irving Azoff was the mastermind behind this summer tour concept?
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 16:16:21 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Let's face it Joey, when Azoff concocted this internet request scam and then the fans decided overwhelmingly that Dr. Wu was to be played, D&W must have felt like the Wedding Band that gets a request from the Father of the Bride after too many champagne toasts. A pain in the ass. Then Rikki and Major Dude wrapped around it made it the bleeding heart trifecta of the night. In touch with the Fandom's emotions? ah...not so much...
But they did suck it up and do it so a thank you from all of us must be in order.
The ungrateful bastards...play on.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 11:56:42 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Just had an email alert from The Beacon Theater:
On sale today and tomorrow only, you can get regularly priced $172 tickets for only $99 !!! Aug 3, 4, 10, and 11 shows only...
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 11:06:51 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" ... the band did not seem comfortable on the stretch that including Rikki, Dr. Wu and Any Major Dude. I was just as excited to see the tunes as anybody, but the band seemed to be going through the motions. I think they liked the fact that the crowd appreciated it, but I do not expect to hear any of those tunes in future tours. ***** there was just something off, not in terms of sound or tightness ... "
YOU MAKE JOEY CRY LIKE BABY !!!!!!!!
Why ?!
WHY ?! ... WHY do you make Joey cry so violently ?!
WHY ?!
...and then , Depression set in !!!!
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 10:58:18 ET
Posted by: Thefez98, Boston
Dean - My wife and I were 8 rows back, slightly right and that was the one comment we had. Boston Rag was noticably absent, especially since they had played it the night before if I recall. We were hoping they opened with it as they did in 2000 or closed with it after 'Dirty Water' but it was not to be. I agree as great as it was to hear Dr. Wu live for the first time I don't think it came off that well and they did not seem as into it as they were the other tunes. We commented how animated Uncle Donald and Walt were, making all sorts of quirky facial expressions, etc. throughout the show but they seemed a bit subdued on the Wu and 'Any Major Dude'. As far as the hits, other than 'My Old School' we enjoyed hearing Rikki, Do It Again and some of the others. Overall it was a great night and nice to see the usual suspects at the Danfest prior. Unfortunately we had to take off for the burbs right after to rescue the babysitter.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 10:49:35 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
For what it is worth:
I mentioned on Saturday, one of my best friends scored last minute balcony tickets for Internet Request night. He was pretty far away, in the second balcony, so take that into account.
Of course he loved the show and the theater. Mentioned the sound was very good, for the most part. His girlfriend wasn't thrilled with the seats, but what can you say?
Now, keep in mind this guy has only seen SD once (maybe twice) in his life, so he isn't as jaded as some here. But he was slightly disappointed in the set list. Too many "greatest hits". I asked him, what did he expect from Internet Request night? He also thought it was odd they didn't play Boston Rag (it must have made the list for Boston, no?). He also thought Pretzel Logic would have been played, given the theme of the night.
Again, overall he was very happy and would go again in a heartbeat, but try to get better seats.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 10:17:33 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Nausious Susas has just returned analysis of the intell data with her predictions for the "catering-to-the-locals" encores for the eight NYC dates. Massive psychic abilities suggest that you'll get 'Summer in the City' every other night intermixed with 'Livin For the City,' 'Across 110th Street,' 'Shattered,' and on some particular night, a guest guitarist has requested a work-up of the Glen Campbell hit, 'Rhinestone Cowboy.'
Our resident seer (she'll move in with you if the need arises) also laughed at the notion that I would pay for such a no-brainer as confirming that the Chicago gigs will all close with 'Borrowed Time."
She did not, however, return the check.
Los Angeles data is incomplete, but 'Hotel California' seems to have a slight lead over hits from The Doors and Steely Dan.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 09:28:41 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
I was at all three Boston shows, and after reading what everybody had to say about which night was the best, etc. I thought I would weigh in.
In terms of the crowd response, and the band's feeding off of the crowd, I would have to say the first night was the best. They seemed to be loving performing Aja, and when they announced they would be playing the Royal Scam, it was was the loudest Steely Dan crowd I have ever heard. To top it all off was the 6 song encore that was excellent. While the playing on the Royal Scam stuff wasn't as tight as usual, this was a great show, and I think the best night of all three.
Gaucho was excellent as well. The playing on all of the tunes was great, and I happen to love every track on Gaucho -- including Glamour Profession and My Rival (sorry Mitch). I really enjoyed hearing Glamour Profession on the last tour, and I think it is an under-appreciated tune. This show was TIGHT, and I think the sound was mixed the best as well. Third World Man was the highlight for me, and again the crowd was going nuts, despite the fact that I think it was the least attended show. I think Steely Dan is well suited to these tracks at this point and with this band. When they started an original version of Reelin' the crowd blew up.
I have heard most people say the fan voting night was the best, but I have to disagree. The playing was fine, and the crowd was into it, but (and I know people aren't going to like this) I think there is a reason some of the songs we voted in haven't been appearing live the past 9 years (or in Wu's case, ever). Thats not to say they didn't sound right, but the band did not seem comfortable on the stretch that including Rikki, Dr. Wu and Any Major Dude. I was just as excited to see the tunes as anybody, but the band seemed to be going through the motions. I think they liked the fact that the crowd appreciated it, but I do not expect to hear any of those tunes in future tours. Again, I liked the show, and I count myself among the Steely Dan-nerds who were giving high 5s during Dr. Wu, but there was just something off, not in terms of sound or tightness, but mood. Walter Becker seemed particularly bored, despite the occasional sarcastic smile. I think it is worth noting that I had my best seats for this show -- 13th row, so I was close right in the middle of the audience and close to the stage.
I expect I will cause some outrage with this post, but I did want to give my thoughts. All 3 shows were great, and the band sounded the best they have since 2000, and seemed to be having more fun, too.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 09:19:09 ET
Posted by: Duncan,
Where's the Wu video link?
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 05:22:19 ET
Posted by: Walter Becker's dreaming,, results in Internet request nights
According to a new interview with D & W it was Walter who got the Internet request idea:
"I had dream one night, and in this dream I was visited by an animal that was a cross between a ram and goat, with 14 eyes and six horns..."
:)
For the whole interview (short but with a few funny turns like the one above):
http://weblogs.amny.com/entertainment/music/amfm/blog/2009/07/steely_dan_speaks.html
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 02:01:20 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, credit where credit is due
Pretzel Logic - latest iteration
I'm now convinced thay the Monkey solo is indeed Walter. Take a gander at the rest of the reverse engineering
PRETZEL LOGIC
Rikki Don’t Lose That Number:
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Walter Becker
Acoustic Guitar: Dean Parks
Electric Guitar & Solo: Skunk Baxter
Piano: Michael Omartian
Flapamba: Victor Feldman
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit
Night By Night:
Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Wilton Felder
Guitars: Eliot Randall (solo)
Denny Dias, Skunk Baxter
Clavinet: David Paich
Percussion: Victor Feldman
Sax: Plas Johnson, Ernie Watts
Trumpet: Ollie Mitchell
Trombone: Lew McCreary
Clarinet: Jerome Richardson
Backing Vocals: Tim Schmit, (Sherlie Matthews, Carolyn Willis, Myrna Matthews?? – uncredited)
Any Major Dude:
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Acoustic Guitars: Dean Parks (right channel), Ben Benay (left channel)
Electric guitars: Denny Dias (left channel) Skunk Baxter (right channel + solo – second half doubled up)
Fender Rhodes: Michael Omartian
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine):
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen
Barrytown:
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Walter Becker
Acoustic guitar: Ben Benay
Electric Guitars: Denny Dias, Dean Parks
Pedal Steel guitar: Skunk Baxter (last verse)
Piano: Michael Omartian
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit
East St. Louis Toodle-oo
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Walter Becker
Wah-wah Guitar: Walter Becker
Pedal Steel guitar: Skunk Baxter
Banjo: Dean Parks
Piano: Donald Fagen
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Alto Sax: Donald Fagen
Parker’s Band:
Drums: Jim Gordon (right channel) & Jeff Porcaro (left channel)
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitars: Denny Dias (left channel), Dean Parks, Walter Becker
Piano: Michael Omartian
Organ: Donald Fagen
Dueling Saxes: Plas Johnson, Ernie Watts
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit, (female - Sherlie Matthews, Carolyn Willis, Myrna Matthews??)
Through With Buzz:
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Piano: Donald Fagen
Fender Rhodes: David Paich?
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen
Orchestration by Jimmie Haskell
Pretzel Logic:
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Wilton Felder
Guitar: Walter Becker (solo) Rhythm guitar – right channel: Dean Parks
Piano: Michael Omartian (left channel)
Wurlitzer piano: Donald Fagen (left channel)
Sax: Plas Johnson
Trumpet: Ollie Mitchell
Trombone: Lew McCreary
Backing vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit
With a Gun:
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Walter Becker
Acoustic Guitars: Dean Parks, Ben Benay
Electric Guitars: Skunk Baxter (good Western flavor)
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit
Charlie Freak:
Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitar: Walter Becker (left channel)
Pedal Steel: Skunk Baxter
Piano: Michael Omartian
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen (left channel)
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine, sleigh bells, triangle @ 1:52 mark)
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen
Monkey in Your Soul: (a very underrated song)
Drums: Jim Gordon
Fuzz Bass: Walter Becker
Guitar: Dean Parks (right channel); Walter Becker - solo
Wurlitzer: Donald Fagen
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Saxes: Plas Johnson, Ernie Watts
Percussion: Victor Feldman - handclaps
Backing vocals: Donald Fagen (great echo)
All lead Vocals: Donald Fagen
Orchestration by Jimmie Haskell
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 01:51:12 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,
Not to mention:
"Fagen’s voice – never the band’s strong suit – had aged noticeably since I last saw them in ’99."
Dude, that's their signature sound...and Steely Dan did not tour between 1996 and 2000.
"‘Glamour Profession’ was fine, although it’s one of the weaker tracks on the album."
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Stellar lyrics and melody. Beard has to salivating in approaching the fine Mounsey piano solo
"The less said about the dreadful ‘My Rival’ the better."
Try to sit down at the keyboard ad replicate those delicious chords...and how about that instrumental break?! Seamless horns, bass, synth thingy, guitar all working it out.
Home at Last is a track only Dan-nerds could love? Perhaps the finest track on Aja? ever?
"Becker’s guitar playing, always overshadowed by Skunk Baxter and Larry Carlton back in the day, is amazing."
Besides Rikki (and maybe Monkey in your Soul), find me a Skunk solo...or are you confused with Dias? Randall? Even recorded bar by bar, Walter's solo on Pretzel Logic kicks Rikki's @$$!
Date: Tues, July 28, 2009, 00:54:31 ET
Posted by: And also, Mitch
It's "I Got the News".
Not; "I Got the Blues"
And also... Herington. Not Herrington.
People who take on the media - review world - shuld tri 2 B reesponsable.
Laangwige is cuul.
Date: Mon, July 27, 2009, 23:38:30 ET
Posted by: what , huh??
geez mitch, in what strange alternate universe did you experience "steely dan" the other night?
wowzer. stick to your "odd jobs."
Date: Mon, July 27, 2009, 18:39:13 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour
Mitch, thanks for posting the review.
Quick questions:
Was My Rival done poorly, or is it that you just don't like the song? I know I would love to hear it live.
Regarding Fagen's voice, reviews of most shows have noted how good he sounds on this tour. (He sounded good in St Augustine, for the most part.) Can anyone confirm he was off his game on Gaucho night?
Date: Mon, July 27, 2009, 17:00:31 ET
Posted by: mitch, boston
I wrote a review for the 7/24 show if you're interested in reading...
http://mitchblum.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/concert-review-steely-dan%e2%80%99s-gaucho-in-boston-72409/
Date: Mon, July 27, 2009, 16:48:00 ET
Posted by: Gage,
Charlie Tuna,
That was mentioned a few days ago here. Most people only read the latest couple of screens of posts so it's a good reminder that you posted again.
Date: Mon, July 27, 2009, 16:42:54 ET
Posted by: Tuna, Little Rock
Check out the latest issue of The New Yorker:
http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/notebook/2009/07/27/090727gonb_GOAT_notebook_frerejones
Date: Mon, July 27, 2009, 10:35:39 ET
Posted by: Thefez98, Boston
Sorry for the double-post. That happens here if you hit the 'back' key after posting apparently... BTW - Has anoyone come across a review of Saturday night's show? Huggie on 96.9 WTTK mentioned it on Sunday but I have not come across an actual review and was a bit surprised by that.
Date: Mon, July 27, 2009, 10:33:43 ET
Posted by: Thefez98, Boston
What a show!!! Great to see everyone at the DanFest, all the usual suspects Fezzie already mentioned. I don't know if it was the 8th row, slightly right seats or what but the band seemed re-energized and we have regained some faith that we were starting to lose. Frankly, although we would never miss a tour, we commented to each other after last years show that they appeared to be 'going through the motions' abit and it felt somewhat like a money grab. One person near us that concurred with this feeling said they would be doing the South Shore Music Circus down oin Cohasset next year. All faith has been restored and hopefully we will see many more energetic performances like Saturday night in the years to come.
We wish we could make a show at the Beacon but lack of babysitters and funds are making that look unlikely though you never know, it would be quite a treat. We have not been to the big city since RRHOF weekend. I guess we have to save some of our dough so we can pay for Obama's beer with the Cambridge cop and that head case 'professor' from Harvard.
Only 2 children mowed down by senior drivers in this state this weekend. That a boy Duval. Sales tax goes up in this fine state this week, thank God for Amazon superSaver and NH. What a mess.
Date: Mon, July 27, 2009, 10:25:01 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" ... rant and rave about Dr. Wu like it's the end-all-be-all of songs, but it's just simply a perfectly gorgeous emotional song, and to feel every drop of feeling that was poured into that recording and to finally hear it live by your heroes is just...there are no proper words. Magical. Fabulous. Outstanding. Even if I listen to a thousand bootlegs of that performance, it will never capture the feeling of being there and screaming like a teenager at a Beatles concert and the emotional high that the audience was on from start to finish. "
Full Frontal Nuzzles Coming Your Way !!!!
Full FRONTAL !!!!
Date: Mon, July 27, 2009, 10:06:28 ET
Posted by: Thefez98, Boston
What a show!!! Great to see everyone at the DanFest, all the usual suspects Fezzie already mentioned. I don't know if it was the 8th row, slightly right seats or what but the band seemed re-energized and we have regained some faith that we were starting to lose. Frankly, although we would never miss a tour, we commented to each other after last years show that they appeared to be 'going through the motions' abit and it felt somewhat like a money grab. One person near us that concurred with this feeling said they would be doing the South Shore Music Circus down oin Cohasset next year. All faith has been restored and hopefully we will see many more energetic performances like Saturday night in the years to come.
We wish we could make a show at the Beacon but lack of babysitters and funds are making that look unlikely though you never know, it would be quite a treat. We have not been to the big city since RRHOF weekend. I guess we have to save some of our dough so we can pay for Obama's beer with the Cambridge cop and that head case 'professor' from Harvard.
Only 2 children mowed down by senior drivers in this state this weekend. That a boy Duval. Sales tax goes up in this fine state this week, thank God for Amazon superSaver and NH. What a mess.
Date: Mon, July 27, 2009, 09:13:26 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, finally awake
I know I've been critical of some of the shows and venues the last couple of years, but Saturday was by far the best SD show I have ever seen. The crowd, the venue, the band - all were outstanding.
Although I would not change a thing, I do think it is noteworthy that they did not play a single song from either of the new albums.
Thanks to all who organized the Danfest - it was great seeing everyone.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 23:32:16 ET
Posted by: DrMu,
Get that Wu on YU-Tube!!!
About *** time. What a night, I'm sure.
"Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 14:05:07 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Dr. Wu is a very emotional song. There's a ton of hurt in that tune. I'm so gratified they finally played it. Now, where can we find the video of it...c'mon don't bullshit me, somebody has it...don't kid a kidder..."
Bad Sneakers, Dr Wu, Your Gold Teeth II, and Any World in their own surreal way are the closest thing Steely Dan ever got to letting their guard down. If not for the noise reduction fiasco, Katy would be more consistently recognized as it should be: one of the great musical masterpieces of the 20th Century. It really was exquisitely recorded...you can hear the interaction between Porcaro and Rainey on some of the outtakes (Wu, YGTII)
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 22:24:26 ET
Posted by: Hunter Felt, uglatto@hotmail.com
SteelyFez - Don't worry at all. I actuallty felt bad because I was burnt out and a bit tired. By the time the encore hit, I was as loud as anyone else, am I sure you noticed. Hopefully the next time they're in the area I'll see either you or both of you again. Much better than seating with the people who weren't even singing along to the hits...
Also, sorry for not believing you when you told me this was the first time they had played "Dr. Wu" live!
"Dirty Water," in the last five-ten years, almost exclusively because of its use after Red Sox wins, has effectively become Boston's anthem, in a way that "Rocky Top" is down in Tennesse. Now, considering that our anthem celebrates crime, pollution, and the fact that the town effectively shuts down at midnight, I can't answer that. But as far as killer riffs, and proto-punk attitude I think it makes up for it, even if the Standells were actually from LA.
It's usually considered a tad condescending to actually play it at the end of the song, although it will ALWAYS be requested by somebody. Still iþ beats "Sweet Caroline" or (egads) "Tessie."
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 21:28:18 ET
Posted by: Denise,
some Boston photos:
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzewy83y/bostonrentparty09
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 21:26:26 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Wu Sang Clan
The elderly security was in full force last night at the Wang. They were constantly harassing people who had cameras or cell phones. I wanted to at least capture the audio of Doctor Wu so I could listen to it later. Thanks to a tipped set list I knew it was coming up after Rikki. So I got the camera set to movie mode to capture the Wu audio. Twenty seconds into Wu, an elderly woman with a flashlight tells me to put the camera away. I did sneak in on again about a minute into the song. The sax solo was adequate but obliviously wasn’t Phil Woods. It was different but in the same ball park as Wood’s solo. As Donald picked up the vocals after the solo, he sang “Don’t seem right/I’ve been strung here all night/I’ve been waiting for the DIME you said you’d bring to me”. Not to sound like a complainer but the song needed some tightening up and more focus on Jim Beard’s acoustic piano. Other than the intro, he was kind of buried in the mix. It was also strange to hear the girls sing “Are you with me Doctor Wu” along with Donald. The album of course has Donald’s voice multi-tracked. The outro was fantastic with the wailing sax along with ‘Are you with me Doctor?”
One of the funny moments at the Danfest was that Jacob Wirths is across the street from the artists entrance to the Wang. A big limo pulled up around 5:30 and word was that the soundcheck was finishing up. So a couple of our Dandom friends (names I will withhold) went across the street to see if they could see Don & Walt heading out to the limo. Well it paid off with D&W waving to a small crowd out by the entrance. Reports are that Donald even signed a few albums but looked at the CBAT album and shook his head and didn’t sign it! LOL!
It was great hearing Dirty Water. I remember my sister has the 45rpm of the song, so it used to get a lot of play at my house many years ago. The highlight of the song was when Walter took a Yankees cap and set it on fire and then put on a Red Sox cap! Oh wait…that was my other fantasy. The Wu one came true though.
Mark in Boston
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 21:24:38 ET
Posted by: The Bending End, RI
A few pictures I took on the campus of Bard College at a spot where my wife and I had some lunch after doing a campus tour, 7/22/09: http://thebendingend.blogspot.com
I looked at the wall surrounding the garden we were sitting in and wondered if the setting was the inspritation for a lyric in 'The Caves of Altamira'.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 20:42:49 ET
Posted by: janelightning, banks of the river charles
more on the dirty water...
http://thephoenix.com/Boston/Music/49074-Sweet-harmony-sweet-irony/?rel=inf
i prefer the lyrics
as i originally misheard them
"proud city women"
i was in the 8th grade when this song was released -
who knew about frustration then?
nothing on the local news today
about the real historic event of the day:
live dr. wu at the wang
but plenty about dirty water...
it's the first real "beach day" of the year,
and all of the boston beaches are closed because of bacteria
well i love that dirty water
oh, boston you're my home
more later...
i'm still in another world right now
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 20:17:57 ET
Posted by: Mark&Marie, NJ
New York August 1 Internet Night and Dr. Wu question -Anyone know how the voting went? We were never got any info from Ticketmaster, but noticed on the SD website that July 18 was the final day to vote. Oh well, presumably another poorly run event by Ticketmaster. Hopefully, we'll hear Dr. Wu in New york 2!!!!!!! Did Wu make the top 20???
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 20:03:19 ET
Posted by: goTubby,
Excellent, Dean. The picture isn't mine, but you sure can lose a lot of time going to Flickr and putting in Steely Dan as a search... There's a lot of nice stuff on there.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 19:19:43 ET
Posted by: enimen, Gratitude
Many thanks to The Dean. Very interesting.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 18:54:55 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, One more thing
An addendum to my previous post:
Re: "Dirty Water" - I found myself playing a spirited one person game of "Spot the out of towner." I think it's the first time that being young and from New York did not act in my favor. Don't get me wrong, the song sounded great and Jesus, the whole crowd (THE WHOLE CROWD) was singing along - save for the young New Yorker playing "Spot the out of towner" - but I wasn't familiar with the song and being that it's about Boston I would guess that being a resident of the Boston area makes the song hit a little closer to home than, say, for someone from New York.
Which leaves me to wonder...if they're singing a special Boston song at the end of the Boston shows, what will they do in New York his week? Wouldn't you love to hear Walter take a chorus of "New York New York?" And the girls do a kickline?
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 18:50:48 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour
enimen,
The answer you are looking for is:
King Tubby
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Tubby
http://undergroundspiritualgame.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/1178228425.jpeg
BTW, for those who were there Saturday, how did Walt handle the Wu solo (I assume it was Walt)?
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 18:47:48 ET
Posted by: enimen, Flickr
Could almost pass for Sam the Sham of Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs (of Wooly Bully fame...er, "fame"). But I think no.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 18:42:53 ET
Posted by: enimen, in a quandry
Yes, the pic in question, that's the one. (Really nice pic, btw...that yours?)
It's not Mingus, Bootsy Collins, Junior Parker, Screamin' Jay Hawkins, Sly Stone or Slim Harpo. Checked 'em all.
Could it be Rashaan Roland Kirk?
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 18:27:42 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Home at last
Dear god in heaven, what can one say about a show like last nights? To me, it was history, a show that will can do in the Steely Dan history books as a classic. A few of us got a sneak peek at a setlist before the show even started and saw "Dr. Wu" listed after "Rikki," which was rather unfortunate because I've never heard Rikki live before and spent most of the song wondering if maybe - just maybe - tonight would be the night. It's like that Christmas morning you finally get that pony you've been asking for for years. As soon as Rikki was over I held my breath and waited, my heart pounding like you wouldn't believe. Then...the magic notes start...and I lost my shit. I let out a scream I don't think I've ever released before and immediately burst into tears. I knew that scattered around the theater, my friends were all having the same reaction. To anyone else, it may just be one song, but to the rest of us, it will be a magical moment that we'll never forget. The Wu sounded absolutely perfect, nearly identical to the original recording - and if I'm wrong, who care? I got to hear DOCTOR WU!!!!! A very emotional highpoint for everyone there I'm sure.
Now I hate to rant and rave about Dr. Wu like it's the end-all-be-all of songs, but it's just simply a perfectly gorgeous emotional song, and to feel every drop of feeling that was poured into that recording and to finally hear it live by your heroes is just...there are no proper words. Magical. Fabulous. Outstanding. Even if I listen to a thousand bootlegs of that performance, it will never capture the feeling of being there and screaming like a teenager at a Beatles concert and the emotional high that the audience was on from start to finish. And happily, it was very well received. My concern was that if SD played Dr. Wu that it might not generate a lot of audience feedback, that perhaps the people who didn't care one way or the other outnumbered those of us who've been clamoring to hear Wu for years. But happily, the entire crowd seemed to go apeshit, both at the start and finish of the song. Beautiful.
The entire show was incredible for me - I've always said that Boston has the best audiences, and last night lived up to that sentiment. I'm so glad that I was lucky enough to be a part of the show last night and that I was able to share such a wonderful night with some fabulous Danfriends. I'll never forget this one!
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 18:12:36 ET
Posted by: Steely Fan, NJ
"Wu and Jim Ed Rice in the HOF"
It took 15 years for each.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 17:52:30 ET
Posted by: The pic in question,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/caseyzier/2657947502/
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 17:41:16 ET
Posted by: STEELYFEZ, CT_N YC
Also, yes, that ends with a teaser about a crazy loud diehard Dan fan, and unless there's someone ELSE out there with an 11 month old named Rikki, I think he's here at well. Man, I thought I was hardcore, this guy treated every single song like it was the final encore. At first I was a little zonked and kind of a little annoyed, but by the last five or six songs, pretty much everyone else was getting closer to his enthusiasm. By "My Old School" I felt like the wasted kid in the back of the car in the "Bohemian Rhapsody" scene from "Wayne's World," slowly being raised from nearly comatose to roaring...
ShadyLaMarr this guy with the ll month old named Rikki is me.
Sorry if I get kind of loud. I get carried away. My wife was even more into it last night. The Boston crowds are the best!
I suppose I get overly enthusiastic. Actually over the years I have toned it down somewhat! LOL. The show was electric!
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 16:55:11 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
Wow, Wu and Jim Ed Rice in the HOF in the same 24 hours. Congrats to Jim, our brown-eyed handsome man. What a weekend! Boston, you're my home...
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 16:54:31 ET
Posted by: enimen, Still in Boston
Question:
(and Blue Book, it's a race between you and Twitter for the answer)
Whose photo was that behind Walter and sort of between Walter and Herington on stage? Same color scheme and quality as the Duke Ellington band pic on the front of Donald's Rhodes, so I figure it must be Walter's counterpoint.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 16:48:00 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" .... think when Wu started I expected confetti to fall and all the cherubs on the ceiling to lift their voices in exaltation. As it was, my neighbors seemed unaffected (2 idiots even got up for a bathroom/beer break!!!!WTF???)except for the cool girl across the aisle from me who lifted her hands as I did and we exchanged a Wu! high five. OK, I admit it took us two tries to connect, due to my $9 G&Ts and whatever she was imbibing.
The lyrics and mood to Wu were even lovelier with Don's world-weary older voice. No matter how he feels about recreating it, he put his all into it and sang it sincerely. "
I am STILL overcome with emotion and unable to post . I am so happy that I am crying .......
I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!
Joey Wu ™
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 16:17:07 ET
Posted by: Mer., Boston
Thanks to Chan and Denise for organizing the Danfest at Jacob Wirth's- so great to see all the sweet things from Boston ( I hope we have many more to come!) Fezzie- I'm so glad I'm not the only one who has been moved to tears at a Steely Dan concert. Last night was no exception,Jim Pugh's solo (what song was that again?) was so amazing- how can anyone make a trombone sound that good?
The sound quality was excellent- I found myself closing my eyes to just really take the sound in and was so moved (as always)at the gift of seeing and hearing them live. They all seemed to be having a great time- Don's swagger, Walter's head bobble and comical intro. of his "partner in crime lo' these many years." I'm still fantasizing that one of these days they'll pull some lucky die-hard fan from the audience (ME!!)and let me sing with the gals for awhile. Or better yet, sit next to the mad scientist at the key board....or at least get him a coke when he needs one.....OK, I digress....
Thanks everyone for a Dantastic evening----
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 15:50:31 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Bravo, Dandom, thank you for your reviews.
More please.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 15:18:22 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
I loved Don's intro to the request night, I wish I remembered it verbatim. Very tongue-in-cheek wry tone, something like, "This is our first ever request show, playing songs voted by you regardless of how we may feel about them. This is your night."
The security was right on top of us down in the pit - the energy was buzzing and a lot of the women sitting around me, including myself, wanted to dance during Bodhi, but we couldn't block the people sitting behind us and the two women who tried to dance in the aisle got shuffled back to their seats. I wanted to shout, 'but Don LIKES the dancing drunk people!!' Ha ha...
I think when Wu started I expected confetti to fall and all the cherubs on the ceiling to lift their voices in exaltation. As it was, my neighbors seemed unaffected (2 idiots even got up for a bathroom/beer break!!!!WTF???)except for the cool girl across the aisle from me who lifted her hands as I did and we exchanged a Wu! high five. OK, I admit it took us two tries to connect, due to my $9 G&Ts and whatever she was imbibing.
The lyrics and mood to Wu were even lovelier with Don's world-weary older voice. No matter how he feels about recreating it, he put his all into it and sang it sincerely.
Love your review, NH Chris, maybe you're right about Babylon Sisters - it may have been better placed somewhere else in the set but I thought it was a great rendition, what with the electricity buzzing in the air. It reminded me that it was long ago one of my very most favorites, though I have heard it so many times now.
Anyway, we did get to dance during the encore, and after the first two nights I was getting nervous that they WOULDN'T play Dirty Water! They had me at Hello with that one. But, Yay!, they ended with it, a perfect end to a perfect night.
I'd like to put in a request for a similar tour next year, with a D&W solo material night. Wouldn't that be awesome, to hear Junkie Girl and Great Pagoda and Upside Looking Down? Ah, it is to dream...
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 15:08:17 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Heading to the Manatee Bar
Shady and Chris,
Thanks so much for the additional detail.
Chris, Don said "I'm buggin"? And on more than one occasion?
Glad you guys were there to report. Wish I had been there, too.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 14:44:43 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
hey guys! I had fun tweeting (or twatting, as colbert likes to say) the show last night, despite the shit my buddies gave me. I'll try and fill in any blanks/give some details song by song for those of you who care about such things. A couple caveats, however: 1) My job these days partially includes artfully describing music; so on the weekends I'm burnt out and just want to be straightforward and 2) one of my buddies made some baked goods last night and we overindulged. In laymen's terms, we were high as shit.
First, the venue: someone here told me there were no bad seats and they were right. we were 4 rows from the back (mostly empty seats behind us which meant I was able to stand all night!). The sound was impeccable. It hasn't been that good at a Steely Dan show in years for me ... possibly ever. The place itself was gorgeous. Couldn't have asked for a better setting.
Sam Y was awesome. In other venues he's been a little "sleepy," but they turned up the volume this time and the crowd responded.
The Royal Scam - Same slightly funked up version from last year. Don and Walt enter to huge applause.
Bodhisattva - I never get sick of this song. It set the tone for an evening of high energy performances.
Hey Nineteen - As I mentioned in my tweet, they didn't do the "go down to the beach with some tequila" thing. Just a "skate a little lower now" and "sure looks good" from Becker, which is preferable.
Black Friday - Chicago blues version. Killer shit from Herrington, as always. Crowd loved it.
Babylon Sisters - Actually the low light of the set ... slowed things down a little abruptly.
Aja - Jim Beard is actually featured on this now and was fantastic.
Peg - You know the drill.
Dirty Work - Very nice to hear. The girls took turns singing verses. Carolyn was the audio and visual highlight, as always.
FM - Diggin' the mid set placement.
Rikki Don’t Lose that Number - I never heard the version from '96, so I'm not sure if it was the same or not. The verse was reharmed which gave it the nice "21st century Dan" sound, but still had a lot of quoting from the original, including parts of the guitar solo and of course the Song for My Father quote.
Doctor Wu!! - So I mentioned earlier here that I didn't really care about this song. Maybe it was the energy in the hall, maybe it was the high from knowing that I saw a song played for the first time, maybe it was the brownies, but ... I was fucking moved. Don's vocals were great; a few missed notes here and there but still very soulful. The part that really got me was the outro. Same as the album version, but extended, and eventually the "Do you hear me doctor?"s dropped out for just some drums/sax stuff. Crowd was on their feet.
Any Major Dude - Also very cool to hear. I don't believe that Jon was on an acoustic but to be honest I wasn't paying attention to him.
Do It Again - New intro, drum feel that's closer to the original. Same updated changes and outro.
Love is an itching - Short and sweet band intros, crowd on their feet.
Black Cow - Sublime as always.
Josie - Beard's piano intro was PHENOMENAL and was one of the highlights of the show. I can't describe it in a way that will do it justice.
As for the song itself, it was my pee break. I needed one badly. Forgive me.
Don’t Take Me Alive - Rockin'
Kid Charlemagne - Also rockin'. Always love it as a closer.
Reelin’ in the Years - Original version, note for note original solo, etc etc - very fun to see!
My Old School - No surprises here, just great energy, "WOOOOAH NO" singalong, etc.
Dirty Water - Crowd loved it, sang along.
other details: Plenty of "woo!" and "I'm buggin!"s from Don. More than usual, I'd say.
Crowd was great. A lot of people were sitting around me which was a little weird, but they were just as invested in the show as everyone else. No one overpowered the band (other than one dude a few rows back constantly counting to 4 before a big hit from the band and singing phonetic lyrics along with Don -- but seriously, this was perfect; you need a guy like that at every show, so long as he's the only one). I probably already mentioned the sound, but yeah, it was awesome.
Basically, it was an altogether fantastic night.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 14:31:17 ET
Posted by: Shady LaMarr, Allston, MA
Oh. Yes. That review was me, been lurking here a bit. Please keep in mind that I wrote that review pretty much immediately much immediately after I got home, exhausted after back to back nights of Steely Dan, still somehow high (haven't smoked in a bit, I guess) so it's pretty much full of typos, parenthesises that don't close, details that are just flat out wrong, and at least once sentence which doesn't have a
(And, yes, I know David Palmer is not just some guy, but I was going to have a big paragraph about how Fagen's vocals were on the two big hits, and so forth, but I lost the plot.)
I wouldn't say I was conflicted, especially since it doesn't really matter what they play, the next song's going to be, at worst, good. I was, however, hoping for a few more surprises.
I think I liked the music better on the Friday show, but I was ridiculously close, plus "Gaucho" has songs like "Glamour Profession" and "My Rival" that, I think at least, were improved in a live setting. Beyond that, when they played "Time Out of Mind" which I always thought of as an almost perfect song, I think they may have made it perfect.
Also, yes, that ends with a teaser about a crazy loud diehard Dan fan, and unless there's someone ELSE out there with an 11 month old named Rikki, I think he's here at well. Man, I thought I was hardcore, this guy treated every single song like it was the final encore. At first I was a little zonked and kind of a little annoyed, but by the last five or six songs, pretty much everyone else was getting closer to his enthusiasm. By "My Old School" I felt like the wasted kid in the back of the car in the "Bohemian Rhapsody" scene from "Wayne's World," slowly being raised from nearly comatose to roaring...
The crowd was definitely better this night, a lot more energy for the finale.
I just hope next time around (fingers crossed, of course) they play at the Wang again and not that ridiculous clown show pavilion again.
So, yeah, as far as music, I liked the "Gaucho"
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 14:05:07 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Dr. Wu is a very emotional song. There's a ton of hurt in that tune. I'm so gratified they finally played it. Now, where can we find the video of it...c'mon don't bullshit me, somebody has it...don't kid a kidder...
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 10:59:50 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Short review from last night's show from a conflicted Dan fan.
http://shady-lamarr.livejournal.com/237318.html
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 10:35:00 ET
Posted by: boston , cub reporter
OK here it is - video of dr. wu in BOSTON. enjoy!
wally cronkite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qBnodk6MY8
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 09:57:49 ET
Posted by: STEELYFEZ, CT_NYC
What a show.
glad to hear Rikki.
My wife was excited, and to finally hear Dr. Wu.
Thanks guys!!
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 09:55:42 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Don says it's internet request night and we're going to play certain songs whether we want to or not.
We flipped out on Wu, but not such a big deal for some of people. Walt W was very fine on this.
Any Major Dude a sweet surprise.
Jim Beard's into to Josie: very beautiful. "
I am overcome with emotion and will be unable to post for a few days .
Joey
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 09:42:54 ET
Posted by: Not, Fagen
I seriously doubt that is Fagen's twitter account. None of his posts sound at all like him.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 09:35:42 ET
Posted by: AV, Donald says...
DF's response to all the Wu love...
http://twitter.com/DonaldFagen/statuses/2848926213
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 08:51:08 ET
Posted by: Denise, sleep deprived
So great to see everyone at the Danfest. My dan friends are the best part of this experience.
I could smell fine colombian the moment I got seated and thought, oh boy, here we go. The crowd was full of energy tonight and gave a standing O after most every song.
Don says it's internet request night and we're going to play certain songs whether we want to or not.
We flipped out on Wu, but not such a big deal for some of people. Walt W was very fine on this.
Any Major Dude a sweet surprise.
Jim Beard's into to Josie: very beautiful.
The ladies sang Dirty Work. Sat more towards their side, got to watch them close up and have new appreciation for their work. All have their own style, yet they work together beautifully. A lot of talent in that corner of the stage! BTW, Ms. Russell, love the shoes.
The cheering went on after the encores for quite some time. The band looked a bit surprised! This was a great show and the audience demonstrated their appreciation.
Thanks to Don & Walt for playing the songs they didn’t really want to.
Hoping the NY fans get YGT and can tell us about it!
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 08:31:36 ET
Posted by: mr funk, aberdeen scotland
i am sooooooooooo jealous that the dan played dr wu in boston !
i had hoped they might have played it in edinburgh recently, even as
a warm up for the internet request nights in the u.s.
as the dan seem to visit scotland rarely i had hoped they might have
treated us to this classic song live...
oh well maybe next time guys?
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 08:03:48 ET
Posted by: Fezzie, boston
They did it!! they actually did it!!! No not the Wu,the bastards brought me to tears,I can only say that i have never been part of a more emotionally charged musical experience than the show the band performed last night.From the moment carlock hit the first beat to the last "Boston your my home" the night was electric.I complained about the audience on friday and with good cause,i dont know where those people came from!!Last night !!WOW,everyone was in and up on their feet all night.The response to the boy's and girls was incredible!!Herrington kept looking out over us and was smiling and on a few occasions laughing out loud in what appeared to be stunned appreciation of the moment.Be proud Boston,You have sent out the word that this is the show "internet request" that will be one for the ages.Get ready NYC!!!! you are about to witness a level of performance unwitnessed in their storied history and i'm sure a few more tears will be shed......To Chan,denise,mark,fife,margaret,suedave,CALVIN,chris,fez98,their guests,and everyone i'm forgetting thank you all for a great weekend.It is one i will never forget......Fezzie
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 07:13:32 ET
Posted by: Chan, Thank Wu very much
I can't even begin tu tell yu how great last nights show was. The obvious high point was Dr. Wu, but the entire night was pure Steely bliss. This was without question the best show I have seen them du.
Thanks tu everyone whu attended our Danfest. What a great grup we had before the show. I am glad we were all able tu be together and tu enjoy each others company.
I hope someone else whu was there last night can summon up the energy tu properly write about it and review it. I am tu stunned and tired tu even try. I know a lot of us have talked and written about our finest Steely moments. Last nights was mine.
Thank Wu very much!!
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 05:38:10 ET
Posted by: duncan, uk
congratulations boston, sounds like you got what you deserved.
a pleasure to follow, cant wait to see the visuals.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 03:59:31 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Oh, you lucky people, so, c'mon, how was WW on the sax solo? Did Donald's voice sound OK? Did he get...wait for it...emotional or anything like that? Specifics. I need specifics. I'm beggin' here...godhelpme...
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 02:15:35 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Amazing show. High energy from the band and from the crowd. Doctor Wu was great although I was expecting a little more out of Jim Beard on the piano parts of the song. Jim did a gorgeous electric piano solo on Black Cow. Carlock and Walter were really on fire tonight.
More to be posted later. Very late and I have a couple of Dandom houseguests that have to be up and on the road early.
Chan and Denise threw a fantastic Danfest at Jacob Wirth before the show. It was great seeing a lot of Dandom regulars at the Fest. Great people, great show, great time.
Mark in Boston
PS - Hoops buddy, we were all hoping you would make a surprize appearance. We'll see you soon.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 02:06:36 ET
Posted by: It's time move, DandomDotCom on Twatter
Into the appropiate ranks.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 02:03:54 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Bona fide
Walt and Don have satisfied.
We're stuck home. It made us cry
Like no tomorrow.
Rikki ends,
And our lives began again.
Just when I'd sent a mass request to bless
The W*ng show.
All tours long
Wish he'd sing that stupid song.
Now every word Don sings
We know rings true.
Are we hearing Dr. Wu?
Are we really thrilled and swaying
To the jam that pulls us through?
Are we crazy? Are we high?
Or just we're ready now to die?
Have we Dan all we can do?
Are they playing Dr....
Don seems right.
I wish that I'd been there tonight.
I waited for the rush
You knew the set would bring to me.
Dorchester Bay
Where the best DanFans are, so Hoops does say,
You went searching for the song
They've never sung to me.
Certified.
I can see it in your eyes.
And imagine my surprise
When I hear too.
Are you in me Dr. Wu?
Is it really a live version
Of the tune I'd hear. I knew.
Sounding lovely, sounding sly,
And I'm an over-sated guy.
Have they finally played our due?
Can you hear the Dr....?
Are they playing Dr....?
I can hear the Dr....
They are playing Dr....
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 01:49:43 ET
Posted by: FenderP, Just Outside Boston
I saw Gaucho on Friday - took advantage of the half price tickets, and I already had a ticket to last night's Internet Request show. I was glad to go to both, but the Internet Request show was clearly better from a playing standpoint, and a much better crowd. Unfortunately, the Gaucho show wasn't sold out and there were a bunch of seats at the back.
The nice thing about these two shows is that while there was a bunch of sitting, the crowd was into it and it was loud - especially last night. There was a bigger energy - at least on the floor downstairs - that wasn't there for Gaucho. I was in row AA for Friday, Y for Saturday (a difference of a few rows), but totally different vibe. Although I felt for the opener (Sam Yahel Trio), the crowd was more respectful/into it on the Gaucho night.
I normally wear earplugs at shows and didn't have to. Good sound overall, but both nights the bass sounded a bit odd. I'm a bass player so it stood out to me; it was there, but it didn't sound right in the mix like everything else did. The light show was good, but not amazing (i.e. not the spectacle, say, a Rush show is). It works, though. Some funny cues during the band intro - I guess the lighting guy thought WB would say the horns in order, but it didn't happen, so you saw some spots change really quickly.
Between last night and Friday I saw all of Aja, Gaucho, some rare stuff, and killer versions of hits. The only other time I saw SD was a few years back in Atlantic City when they played with Michael McDonald. I also saw the Morph the Cat show at the Tower Theater in Philly. I'd put last night's Internet Request show as #1, the Morph show #2, Gaucho #3, and AC #4.
They should make a live album or DVD from this tour. Based on what I saw in Boston, it'd make a fantastic document.
Bring on Royal Scam in Chicago! Can't wait.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 01:19:49 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Thanks for the up-to-the-aboutminute play-by-play on another piece of history.
Luddites:2 Now:fish
Twatted on Twatter? Really? When my buddy and I came up with the concept some months back, I never forsaw being so greatful for such a satisfying and inoffensive application.
Brava tutti.
Grazi mosso.
Statistical analysis and Fruitbat congratulations are underway and pending. Early returns indicate that the hypothesis is shot to hell, but that was one superdy duper show.
Big Ida called and is also being profoundly bowled over by another Giant coup.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 01:12:18 ET
Posted by: In response to, DeaconBlues16
'Parkers' and 'Home at Last' are so much a part of the regular routine, that D & W probably opted for other votes in the set. My guess. Seems that the votes are definitely having an affect. Good call all around (whether it be from D/W or management).
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 00:29:16 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, 3count'em!requestnights
???s-Who sang Dirty Work? The girls or The Donald? Did Sir Walter sing anything? Need Wu details-did it have an end or segue into Any Major Dude? Any noticeable videoing : camera/phone for Wu? Did Walter sing Wu?????
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 00:27:20 ET
Posted by: enimen, Row Q at the Wang
News flash: playing what the audience wants to hear works.
Ask the woman in thrashing Santeria ecstasy during Bodhisattva.
Killer performance tonight; as much as a liked the holistic audience embrace of Gaucho last night, the playing and the response tonight were just better.
Great Donald line after Dirty Work: "The song was originally sung by David Palmer, who was once part of our organization." Something like that....
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 00:21:01 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Wormy,
Are you forgetting this was Internet Request Night? I'm guessing the old stuff got the most votes.
I think you may be justified for wondering why they don't play the new stuff, but you probably picked the wrong night to point that out. Just my opinion, of course.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 00:18:34 ET
Posted by: Mer., Boston
Wuuuuuuuuuuuuu---Hooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 00:14:27 ET
Posted by: wormy, nola
great set list
but not a single song off TAN or EMG
these guys embarrassed to do the newer songs
why feed the casual fan when deep and new cuts would be better
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009, 00:01:42 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
'Nother quick question:
Acoustic guitar on Any Major Dude? Jon?
OK, two questions.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 23:57:38 ET
Posted by: wormy, nola
wow, wu, major dude and black cow all in the same night
keep playing it
I'll be making Memphis Aug 14
can't wait for a good recording to surface
very nice!
how was the crowd response to wu and major dude?
Tom
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 23:42:47 ET
Posted by: 8,
ah yeah ich vergessen---joey de warmup for SD like what last jahr, do that again schmendricks or __________. _________ mo' organ lessss ivory
carlton, eh. fat boy, yay. it wuz his gig, rilly
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 23:35:41 ET
Posted by: Chris, usually in N.H. but in Boston at the Wang for the show
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Sam y about 2 hours ago
Teenies about 2 hours ago
Scam crowd nuts about 2 hours ago
Bhod about an hour ago
19 about an hour ago
No beach bullshit on this version about an hour ago
Black fri about an hour ago
Bab sys about an hour ago
Aja about an hour ago
Peg amidst wu chants about an hour ago
Dirty work about an hour ago
Fm about an hour ago
Rikki about an hour ago
Sexy re harm in the verse about an hour ago
Wu! about an hour ago
Wu was incredible.
Any major about an hour ago
Do it 58 minutes ago
Itchin 53 minutes ago
Black cow 47 minutes ago
Josie with incredible piano intro 37 minutes ago
Dtma 35 minutes ago
http://twitpic.com/bnkjx - I'm buggin! 32 minutes ago
Kid c 31 minutes ago
Encore reelin orig 22 minutes ago
Old school 18 minutes ago
Dirty water 11 minutes ago
Last tango and that's all! Amazing show 7 minutes ago
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DandomDotCom on Twatter
7.25.2009: Steely Dan Setlist Live From Boston
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Last tango and That's all! Amazing show 45 minutes ago
Dirty water 49 minutes ago
Old school 56 minutes ago
Encore reelin orig about an hour ago
Kid c about an hour ago
http://twitpic.com/bnkjx - I'm buggin! about an hour ago
Dtma about an hour ago
Josie with incredible piano intro about an hour ago
Black cow about an hour ago
Itchin about an hour ago
Do it about an hour ago
Wu was incredible. Worth the wait. Any major about an hour ago
Wu! about an hour ago
Sexy re harm in the verse about an hour ago
Rikkie about an hour ago
Fm about an hour ago
Dirty work about 2 hours ago
Peg amidst wu chants about 2 hours ago
Aja about 2 hours ago
Bab sys about 2 hours ago
Black fri about 2 hours ago
No beach bullshit on this version about 2 hours ago
19 about 2 hours ago
Bhod about 2 hours ago
Scam crowd nuts about 2 hours ago
Teenies about 2 hours ago
Sam y about 3 hours ago
http://twitpic.com/bmu9u - 70 dollar seats about 3 hours ago
http://twitpic.com/bm1r2 - There is now, anyway about 6 hours ago
Load em up move em out. Is there gas in the car? Yes there's gas in the car. about 7 hours ago
http://twitpic.com/blgwa - Test num 2 about 8 hours ago
Testing about 9 hours ago
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 23:01:11 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Greatest Hits concert, to be sure. But with The Dan, a greatest hits concert is a pretty terrific concert, nonetheless.
Thanks so much for the twitter. I can't wait to hear the first-hand reports.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 22:59:55 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, stateofeNvY
.9:48pm est. I believe that was a tear trickling down my cheek at reading the updated tweet/twit/twatever. Wu-hoooooooooo!
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 22:59:40 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
Great setlist!
I am curious about a few things. Now I know that Becker and Fagen can play/do whatever they want, arrange the set in any order etc, and I heard the interview with two of them where Walter proclaimed that they might not play songs that get a lot of the votes if they don't feel like they should. However, if the voting on msg.com was accurate, then Parker's Band and Home At Last were among the top vote-getters. Those are songs that have been regulars in their setlist this tour, especially Parker's Band. So, anyway, that leads me to question the voting on the site. Was there some other voting available for ticket-holders? I don't mean to complain if that is what I've come across as; I'm merely curious.
Anyway, it still was a great setlist, and I hope all the Boston concert-goers had a wonderful time.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 22:55:55 ET
Posted by: Tim Wheeler, Detroit
I can only hope for Dr.Wu and Any Major Dude come September 5th!!
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 22:51:53 ET
Posted by: Tim Wheeler, Detroit
Tonight in Boston is the best Steely Dan Setlist I have seen in years, unbelievable really!!
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 22:50:39 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Back, jack
The Royal Scam
Bodhisattva
Hey Nineteen
Black Friday
Babylon Sisters
Aja
Peg
Dirty Work
FM
Rikki Don’t Lose that Number
Doctor Wu!!
Any Major Dude
Do It Again
Love is an itching…
Black Cow
Josie
Don’t Take Me Alive
Kid Charlemagne
Reelin’ in the Years
My Old School
Dirty Water
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 22:09:14 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Guess I was in the laundry room...
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 22:05:40 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Well now that Donald has "in-concert"
stepped once again out of that "ditch
out in the valley", his albatross,
perhaps Phil Woods will join them
in NYC?..... He is in town!
Sounds like a hoot in Boston tonight,
thanks chris & hoops for the ticker tape.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 21:57:43 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, "that I once knew"
It's amazing that two little letters on a twitter page on a saturday night will completly change everything. Amazing!!
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 21:51:51 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Girl Margaret just called me and simply let me listen to Steely Dan play...
DR WU!!!!!!
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 21:51:26 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, It happened!!!!
9:59 EST. July 25th 2009. Wang Theatre. Boston, NY.
Doctor Wu played for the first time ever.
This night just turned legendary, baby!!!
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 21:51:08 ET
Posted by: Ray,
They Have been wuued!!!
Sexy re harm???
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 21:36:23 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Greatest Hits so far...hmm...
From the twitters:
The Royal Scam
Bodhisattva
Hey Nineteen
Black Friday
Babylon Sisters
Aja
Peg
Dirty Work
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 21:10:28 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Very exciting!
The Royal Scam
Bodhisattva
Hey Nineteen
Black Friday
Hope their are some suprises on the way... because so far this looks like a setlist from last year.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 20:53:09 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
{Sound of gradually quickening heartbeat}
The tension is mounting.
The suspense is tickling me...
I hope it's last...
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 20:51:44 ET
Posted by: So, so far we have...
Sam Yahel, Teenies Blues, Scam...
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Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 20:50:22 ET
Posted by: Talking of opening acts:, Toon Roos Quartet did play Padova
Not scheduled but at the last time there playing a short set in Padova/Piazzola sul Brenta: European opening act the Toon Roos Quartet.
I'm not sure it has been mentioned in any reports from the show and this way it is here for future reference.
/PGE
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 20:12:57 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
The Twatting has begun.
Sam Yahel...how often does he rotate the set?
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 18:44:18 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, DO THE WU!!
For the first time in the history of the universe... Dr. Wu will be played live!!! Awesome, have a great time to everybody going to this most memerable event.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 17:56:43 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
enimen: I too remember a great lunch at Quincy. Always good to see you here.
In regard to have "The Boys" gotten the recognition they deserve. IMHO, no. Though it amazes me to see decent reviews these days. I was so used to the wishy washy ones, that anything positive is always just a shock. It should be their due.
I will be at all 4 nights in LA, so Carlton is definitely on the agenda. I am hoping Parks, Dias or someone turns up, too.
Being home base for many of the session players, we in LA are always hopful... :-)
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 17:15:13 ET
Posted by: Vice Admiral James Bond Stockdale, tonkin
Where were you when Man first walked on the Moon ? probably happened thousands of years ago. but i'll be here when usa bombs the moon oct.9 2009. true.
Where were you when the Berlin Wall Fell Down ? buying american blue jeans and beatles records
Where were you when the first African - American was elected President of the United States of America ? do you mean the first bi-racial, corporate puppet? i was in massachusetts, the true american heartland. just say yes to hr 676!
Where were you when ' Dr. Wu ' was played LIVE for the very first time in World History ? have heard several cover bands do it quite nicely. if donald is gonna pull a brian wilson and go in the sandbox if he has to play it - then i say don't play it - i can do a nice job with on my own guitar.
Developing ........................... really? would you like a ride in a red blazer??????
just listening to the first night of boston - sounds SWEET. kudos to the cool dude done plucked it out of thin air! nice job.
your admiral in charge of vice,
jimmie
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 16:43:40 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, Soon to be Frayed
Thinking of all you lucky pedestrians in Boston! Hope to hear great reports later.
xoxoxoxo
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 15:40:40 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Joey -
I was at Soboba ;O)
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 15:39:35 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks to all the great Boston
fans for the terrific reports
so far!
So last night "Hey 19" was done
without the rap so as to "preserve"
the feel of the album. Then why
in the hell isn't Don singing
"The Fez"?!?!?!?!?
Don & Walt weren't EVEN on stage
during it the other night.
Donald's vocals are so much a part
of the song. I really hope they
rectify that before Larry & crew
hit LA.
It was also surprised how eerily quiet
it was at the start of "Boston Rag". I
thought the place would have gone ape-sh*t.
Looking forward to reading & hearing
tonight's show. It will be interesting
to see what they play considering the
huge cluster-$%&* the Boston voting
turned out to be. Did this happen
in NY & Chicago too? I mean really,
why didn't they put a stop to that?
You let people who aren't even going
to the show vote on the set list?
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 15:27:15 ET
Posted by: Joey,
Where were you when Man first walked on the Moon ?
Where were you when the Berlin Wall Fell Down ?
Where were you when the first African - American was elected President of the United States of America ?
Where were you when ' Dr. Wu ' was played LIVE for the very first time in World History ?
Developing ...........................
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 14:01:55 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Thanks, Chris... I haven't heard from you yet, but give me a call--see your email.
I will have the DandomDotCom Twitter crawl up on the blue this evening, provided Chris or someone can tweet the set list.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 13:56:14 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
"Ense petit WU-byDan sub non solum will quiet-em"
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 13:35:34 ET
Posted by: enimen, hatahs to the left
A question for the house:
From the perspective of posterity, have Donald and Walter gotten the recognition they deserve?
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 11:53:30 ET
Posted by: chris, nh
for the folks at home, i'll either be tweeting the set list live tonight ... either via hoops, the DandomDotCom twitter account, or my own account here: twitter.com/chrissink
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 11:44:06 ET
Posted by: Kalvin, Portsmouth, England...but Boston for the weekend
British invasion accounted for, in town, and match fit for this evening proceedings...bring it on!
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 11:30:32 ET
Posted by: The Deanss, St. Augustine Beach
That should have read:
I'd take a $60 balcony seat at the Wang Theater...
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 11:24:58 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
FYI tickets are still available for tonight's show.
One of my best friends just called me to say he just scored 2 balcony seats for $123 total (both tickets, tax, charge, etc). He also said great seats were available for over $300.
I'd take a 60 balcony seat at the Wang Theater, any day.
I look forward to your great reports.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 10:45:32 ET
Posted by: steelyfez, CT_NYC
Leaving in about an hour or so.
My mother in law is watching my 11 month old daughter appropriately named Rikki. Perhaps we hear that tonight. I do not expect them to go by the internet request tallys. Hey a night with The Dan is all that matters for all of us. Hopefully everyone that is going tonight enjoys the show.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 10:44:38 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
tix in the tenth row are popping up on Telecharge for tonite's show...
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 09:56:20 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Shh. Let's not jinx it. I don't even like the song all that much; I'd just like to see it for the Steely Dan nerd cred.
Either way, it'll be a great show. They're obviously enjoying themselves in Boston. I had a listen to the Aja/Scam show and there's an energy there I haven't heard since my hazy rose-colored memory of Mansfield in 00.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 09:36:09 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Today is the day!!!! Woooooooooooooooo=Hoooooooooooooo!!!!!!! "
You Bet Your Sweet Ass .
I can feel it . July 25th , 2009 -- the date " Dr. Wu " is played live in concert for the very first time .
JJJJJJJJJJJACKY !
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 09:00:15 ET
Posted by: O Herny,
Listen to Don sing "Sweet" gamblers and then laugh. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5RQ4ePBlaM
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 08:54:56 ET
Posted by: enimen, Smelling oleander-fresh outside Boston
Hello angel! Fond memories of a lunch at Quincy Market with you and Luckless Pedestrian many years ago. Hope you get to see Larry Carlton in LA!
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 06:02:01 ET
Posted by: Mer., Boston
Today is the day!!!! Woooooooooooooooo=Hoooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 02:46:46 ET
Posted by: Not to , mention
Dr.Wu...
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 02:35:32 ET
Posted by: You know, we're all
Gonna get Rikki tomorrow!! (Plus 'Reelin' and probably 'Do it Again'!)
There was never anything wrong with those songs.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 02:16:49 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
Sweet show, the one my Visa card and I splurged on a 2nd row seat for. It was worth the interest rates. The only thing I missed tonite was Carlock's Aja spotlight. Even without an extended solo, he was brilliant, as ever. WB was spot on and seemed to be soaking in the reception and enjoying himself. I'll stop there - Kaz's description made me a little uncomfortable what with the juiciness and all. Just kiddin', Kaz...
DF took his shades off for one song, near the beginning, Glamour Profession, maybe? Gaucho and Deacon Blues were outstanding for me tonight. And 'Daddy Don't Live... was perfectly placed, feeding off the response to the completion of Gaucho. The energy of it made it a highlight.
Dirty Water was appropriate this night as the underachieving Red Sox came home and finally got a win against the lowly O's. Now if we can just get Sam Yahel to work up a version of 'Shipping Up To Boston'... :-)
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 02:08:45 ET
Posted by: Denise, and another thing
Reelin was a great surprise and fabulous to hear!
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 02:03:09 ET
Posted by: Denise, BOS Part 2
Another great show. Part of the audience was a bit restrained tonight. The center section actually sat through part of the encore, which I find odd.
A few notes to add:
Herington’s solo at the end of Third World Man was incredible. Worth the price of admission alone, IMHO
Godwhacker: love the horns on this and very cool graphics on the backdrop, descending shapes that sped up at the end, as if the Godwhacker went warp speed ahead.
Deacon Blues: hearing this song made many people happy. I looked around me: a guy in back of me was singing softly with a big smile on his face; 2 guys in front of me bopping their heads and smiling. This song has a lot of fans.
BTW, Dean, I have heard the term beribboned garter. Maybe you can work that in somewhere and you won’t have to wait for Christmas:)
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 01:21:31 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Wow. H19 straight from the album; been waiting about 13 years for that.
And a hornless RitY. There you go Jay Hermans-- the single greatest song in the history of rock and roll.
Well, I'll be ribboned.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 01:04:57 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
Though it seems I have been beaten to the punch, and I am more than a a little inebriated, I will now offer my updates on tonight's show...
Gaucho was beyond amazing, and they sounded great. Hey Nineteen was a highlight, and while it did not have a story from Becker, it did have an extended Becker solo and a sweet sweet sweet tromobone solo. In fact, the feature of the night for me was Walter's sweet licks. I am a guitarist, and I love the various solos the Dan feature from album to album, but Walter was on point tonight. Every lick he played reeked of juiciness and deliciousness.
After Gaucho was over, the PLUS of the evening featured a few surprises, most notably "Daddy Don't live in that NYC no more" featuring walter on vocals. The rest was Ajaa heavy, and the biggest surprise came on the encore with an ORIGINAL reelin in the years. Donald announced that they have received a lot of requests for an original verison of reelin', and and the horns sat down while herrington ripped it. While the original reelin is not my favorite, I feel privileged to hear an original version. Herrington ripped, and the licks were juicy.
All in all a great show, though the W*ng center blows in terms of management. My brother was stuck outside the glass doors with me staring at him because the box office closed at 8:30. The Dan came on at 8:55. Screw the Wang, but long live the Dan.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 01:02:42 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Harking back to the old name. Not My Nancy! You brought your son to the concert! How cool is that?
I think they tried out My Rival on a few dates down south. Definitely one night.
Thanks for the color.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 00:52:06 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @home
That's a nice looking set list. Thanks for the update
KC
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 00:46:28 ET
Posted by: enimen, down by the banks of the River Charles
Was privileged to take in the festivities tonight with Son of enimen. A great evening of music.
janelightning is right, no story on Hey 19, but Walter did chime with "Skate a little lower now"
Third World Man is such a fine drum/guitar showcase. Herington/Carlock evoked and re-interpreted that fine, slow-tempo performance by Zingg/Erskine on Alive in America.
Was that the world live premiere of My Rival? Must have been.
I think Catherine Russell has the best moves; she drops a funky little shimmy into the standard female choir sway.
The crowd really loved the show, especially the compleat Gaucho. I felt great solidarity with the Dan fans of Boston tonight.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 00:40:03 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Thanks, Jane.
It seems Don has trouble with the beginning of Hey 19 a lot. Let's hope this is the end of the lame Hey 19 story. I rarely criticize our boys, but that story is due to be retired, IMO.
Thanks again.
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 00:26:33 ET
Posted by: janelightning, .
hey 19 was straight from the album
no story
a bit of a flub by donald
instead of "way back when"
he opened with "hey 19"
recovered nicely though
"that was back in '67, by the way"
well i love that dirty water
oh, boston you're my home
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 00:20:17 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Thanks, janelightning.
Sounds like a very cool show. As a Red Sox fan, I love they are playing Dirty Water. A touch of class, indeed.
Did Walt do the story during Hey 19, or did they play it straight for Gaucho night?
It looks like "beribboned" will become a staple of my vocabulary now. I really don't think I will have many opportunities to use it, though. Maybe Christmas. :#)
"Sure he's a jolly roger
Until he answers for his crime."
Date: Sat, July 25, 2009, 00:11:06 ET
Posted by: janelightning, back from the show
teenie's blues
*gaucho album*
babylon sisters
hey 19
glamour profession
gaucho
time out of mind
my rival
third world man
*1st break donald speaks briefly*
daddy don't live in nyc (walter vocals)
godwhacker
i got the news
home at last
showbiz kids
parker's band (tawatha-carolyn-catherine)
deacon blues
love is itchin in my heart / band intros
peg
josie
my old school
*encore*
kid charlemagne
reelin' (original version)
dirty water
last tango
excellent show
music from 8:50 until 11:00
palatial (beribboned!) venue
love seeing my sd friends again
see you all tomorrow night
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 23:35:42 ET
Posted by: Bob, waiting
where's the setlist?????
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 21:46:36 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Reuben,
That's what I originally thought..but then I got confused. Perhaps it was my bad.
Ariel View, I think you sold that Here and Now piece short. It was awesome, even though it was short. But I had to go through quite a bit to hear it.
I couldn't get it to play in Firefox, but I keep my Firefox browser pretty tight, security wise, as it is my primary browser. Instead of changing a lot of my security settings, I tried Internet Explorer. Still no go. Finally, I got it to play with Google Chrome, which is a great browser, except for the fact that it is still not very secure. But I trusted the source...so there you have it.
Forward to 34 minutes, to hear the Dan piece. Actually quite an exceptional piece with someone who really understands The Dan.
Trust me, it's worth the trouble, IMO. You won't learn anything new, but it is good to hear someone who gets it talk about it.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 21:33:50 ET
Posted by: prevential Reuben, Tall County AR
The Dean: Aren't all hours happy? No, wait I mean I was talking about the jaw dropping Aja/Scam pairing the other night.
Stupid as it sounds in no bs english, that show had a profound effect on me. IMneverHO it was a landmark for B&F/SD certainly and rock and roll performance in general.
Last midnight I wanted to gush about it some more, and I shouldn't have dragged you into it. It's just that you and I seemed to have been hanging around for Kaz' story, and you seemed to share and then express my feelings when the word came.
Good thing I deleted my 1st shot at this. It was long and even more dumber.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 19:33:31 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour
Reuben,
Don't take this the wrong way. While I usually find your posts fairly impenetrable, I really enjoy their spirit. I have to admit, when it comes to our latest tete-a-tete, I have no idea what you are talking about. Still, for some reason there is a smile on my face.
If it's worth it, perhaps you can give me an English language, no-BS translation of what you are talking about.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 18:24:10 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
Heading out to Gaucho night in a few... I will try to post an update after the show as soon as I can, though being a Friday night it may be a later evening then Wednesday. I can't help but feel I need to atone for the transgressions of this morning, so I will do my best to keep everyone updated.
Hope it is another epic night!
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 16:57:58 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" DOCTOR WU, 09
Chanman cried
Dandom fans are unified
An 09 tour will subside
Our deepest sorrow
News comes in
All our hopes will rise again
To attend we will beg, steal
Or even borrow
All Winter long
We will think about which songs
Will be played and sung
By Steely crew
Will they play us Doctor Wu
In 06 it was a rumor
They would play the song we knew
They rehearsed it and they tried
Thighs got wet, but then went dry
Balls turned painful shades of blue
Will they play us Doctor…..
Found a light
I’ve been on the porch all night
I was chatting with Zim, Fife
And southern Susie
Greenroom play
Where talk is loose and we all type away
I was cranking loud the songs
While muting the TV
Chanman’s eyes
You can see he’s really fried
But alas I missed the prize
When they said screw
Will they play us Doctor Wu
In 06 it was a rumor
Leaked out by the Steely two
Don and Walt were oh so sly
And we were obviously high
Then the tour was done and through
Will they play us Doctor….. "
Beautiful .
My 'Nizzle .
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 16:09:00 ET
Posted by: Aerial View, Here And Now
Hmmm, I thought from the looks of the page that people would be able to stream just the SD portion of the program by clicking on the appropriate link. It doesn't seem to automatically work that way, but...
If you click to play the entire program and choose Windows media player (I'm guessing this should probably work with the other available players too), then click the progress bar to jump to around the 34 minute mark, then you can hear just the SD portion.
...At least that's what I did.
Conversation touches briefly on irony, hipsterism, tour aversion then vs affinity now, hyper-perfectionism, guitar solos quoting original and yet going off in new directions, playing of a featured album live, and the origin of the phrase "rent party." No in-depth discussion so what I just listed probably about sums it all up.
Featured musical snippets:
I Mean to Shine
Reelin'
Hey 19
Circus Money
Two Against Nature
All in all, though, a positive seven minute piece even if admittedly it doesn't bring anything new to the smorgasboard. Still, it's always good just to hear generally good pub being put out there imo.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 13:00:00 ET
Posted by: Aerial View, Only about 7 minutes
Was only about 7 minutes. Closed out with "Two Against Nature" instrumental bit playing to fade. Interesting little bit even if it wasn't rife with revelations.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 12:56:55 ET
Posted by: Aerial View, SD Appreciation on NPR's Here And Now
I'm listening right now actually live on the radio...
"Here & Now music critic Tim Riley joins us with an appreciation of Steely Dan. Walter Becker and Donald Fagan are still together after more than 30 years."
http://www.hereandnow.org/2009/07/rundown-724/
Audio will supposedly be available after 2 PM ET. I assume it will only be about a 10 minute piece (till 1 PM). They played a bit of Barbra's "I Mean to Shine" and just snippetized "Circus Money."
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 12:25:50 ET
Posted by: madhog2020, God's Country
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 11:47:54 ET
Posted by: Denise, H
What a poet! See you later...
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 11:45:14 ET
Posted by: Chan, Wu in Boston?
I know I posted this a couple years back, but it seems strangely appropriate today. I am looking forward to seeing all my Steely friends tonight and tomorrow. It should be a great weekend here in Boston.
DOCTOR WU, 09
Chanman cried
Dandom fans are unified
An 09 tour will subside
Our deepest sorrow
News comes in
All our hopes will rise again
To attend we will beg, steal
Or even borrow
All Winter long
We will think about which songs
Will be played and sung
By Steely crew
Will they play us Doctor Wu
In 06 it was a rumor
They would play the song we knew
They rehearsed it and they tried
Thighs got wet, but then went dry
Balls turned painful shades of blue
Will they play us Doctor…..
Found a light
I’ve been on the porch all night
I was chatting with Zim, Fife
And southern Susie
Greenroom play
Where talk is loose and we all type away
I was cranking loud the songs
While muting the TV
Chanman’s eyes
You can see he’s really fried
But alas I missed the prize
When they said screw
Will they play us Doctor Wu
In 06 it was a rumor
Leaked out by the Steely two
Don and Walt were oh so sly
And we were obviously high
Then the tour was done and through
Will they play us Doctor…..
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 11:34:04 ET
Posted by: Walt's Doppelgänger, heaven is in your mind
anyone of you intelligent folks can tell me how to get 24 bit recordings on a dvd-a with a mac?
hoops rules!
thank you
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 10:51:28 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
The Dean: I was thinking about we were waiting for the W*ng report, and our surprise at the extra album in the set. You do have my car repair beat by $300, so you've got that going for you. Kinda strange that Kaz delivered the news, and then the next thing I (or you) could do for him was hand out a rebuke of sorts. Isn't life strange?
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 10:31:32 ET
Posted by: CerpinTaxt, Boston!
Listening to a bit of Caves of Altamira from this past Wednesday's show. Seems Donald had a bit of trouble remembering the first verse! Hehe. He hit all the right notes, though.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 10:29:21 ET
Posted by: Jack Webb,
Mr. Moderator, when you get a free second could you please remove
the post from Kaz from Friday evening? Thank you. What an idiot.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 10:20:04 ET
Posted by: gypsyqueeninafairytale, noneofyourbusiness
This booboo thinks the sax solo on Aja is awful- evanlistens.blogspot.com
He doesn't really like Stevie Wonder either,so there you go.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 09:42:36 ET
Posted by: Kaz,
My fault... Excitement took over. A thousand apologies, I assure you.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 09:42:29 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Reuben,
I thought you were talking about the jaw dropping Aja/Scam pairing the other night (which certainly caused my jaw to drop). Dunno which of my posts you are referring to, as I can't see where I have made any comments good enough, or stupid enough, to inspire a jaw to fall. If you are referencing my car repair bill (not sure why you would) the stunning amount of $$ is what you can expect when you drive an old BMW 740. Of course, that is a drop in the bucket compared to the bills I used to get when I drove a very old Citroen DS21. But that can't be what you were talking about.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 09:35:37 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
This is kind of personally ironic for me as you were responsible for the aforementioned sound of jaws hitting floor, but I'm going to have to ask you to see the post previous to yours.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 09:34:38 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Kaz,
Again, that kind of discussion isn't allowed on the Blue. Hoops may shut this place down for a while for stuff like that.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 08:37:29 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Reuben,
The Scam trip is status quo. Possible, but not likely. Maybe NYC would be more feasible, but I think there's a ticket waiting for me in LA should I be able to make the trip. My jaw is recovering, but still hits the floor, from time to time.
Bucko, just an FYI. We don't do that here. Hoops has made that quite clear. Perhaps you are new, or haven't read his admonitions.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 06:33:52 ET
Posted by: STEELY DAN, IS BACK!!!
Awesome!! Steely Dan is Back! After cruising along for the last several tours, they are finally pulling out the stops and giving the fans an outstanding bang for the buck. I just finished listening to the Boston show and...HOLY FUCK!!, were they having a good time or what?!! THANK YOU BOYS!!! I hope they save some of that energy for the Atlanta show. Can't wait! Thank you again.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2009, 01:18:40 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Reuben,
The short answer is no, we have not voted yet. Weeks ago when Lurker Ray posted the e-mail address (customer_support@ticketmaster.com), I looked at our tickets and realized they were printed by Live Nation. I e-mailed them and did not hear back. There might have been a problem, as that e-mail was through their website, and not a direct e-mail address. So I probably waited too long for a reply. Earlier this evening I e-mailed the address that Ray gave out; the reply said I should be contacted within 24 hours. If I see any tally info or links, I will let you know, but if it is available someone who has access would have probably posted it here by now.
GW
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 23:59:57 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Hey, The Dean, remember 24 hours ago that sound it made when both our jaws hit the floor? I wonder, historically, where the Royal Scam lagniappe stands.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 22:02:30 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
Thanks Reverse, please excuse my sleep deprivation and subsequent lackadaisical copy/paste. Mea culpa. Carry on...
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 21:46:18 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Gus Winterbottom; Were you ever able to vote? Is there a method whereby a body could watch the returns develop?
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 21:30:27 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, Home at last
Steely Dan Roma Grazi!!! if you know what I mean.
We'll see you all Saturday night! Glad they picked a German restaurant for the Danfest - we'll feel right at home.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 18:29:08 ET
Posted by: geo,
Greg M - The Saturday night Roseland blew away the Friday night show! And not because WB said so. You had to be there. And I've seen a lot more than 9 shows.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 17:17:47 ET
Posted by: mr parker, socal
dirty water standells version
http://home.metrocast.net/~michaudjohn/dirty_water.wav
would love to hear the dan's cover
i'm still puzzled by that 6 day gap between ATL and LA
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 17:12:18 ET
Posted by: kram,
+ "Everything You Did"---more like last year's IGY-like reggae version
+ A cover of "Dirty Water" by SD?? sweet "nod", but really nothing special here, and my band has been covering it since "shep was a pup" so it kind of kicks my gag reflex even w/ the "boyz" doin it..
Did they start "Boston Rag" with the spare, bass & drums intro they used last time around?--- kind of forget, but think they went "all in"
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 16:53:10 ET
Posted by: ReverseBoy,
http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/music/general/view.bg?articleid=1186643
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 16:30:57 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
And here's your Herald review:
http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2009/07/23/a_royal_treat_from_a_lively_steely_dan/
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 16:18:27 ET
Posted by: kram, vv
Ouch-- the Boston show last night that i attended with my son and my friend and his son, was so good, in every way, you really...HAD to be there...it was magic..best i have ever heard them since they started back up---what a catalog of music they have---staggering---probably don't need to light up the audience...a little 80's hair bandish,and the bass was a little nuddy, but it always seems that way, but short of that---becker has NEVER played better, no rambling, very precise and authoritative....Carlock...what can i say...EXPOLSIVE! BEAUtiful and flawless harmonies...one tight ass band---it was a historic evening, and i was one lucky sombitch to have seen it
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 16:18:02 ET
Posted by: were you, blind that day?
LC isn't playing Gaucho. TWM would have to be on request night for him to do it.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 15:57:58 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
Very encouraging reports from Beantown (a nickname I'll bet the locals despise).
Was this year's "Everything You Did" closer to the original 4/4 beat or more like last year's IGY-like reggae version?
A cover of "Dirty Water" by SD - that would be something to hear! Did the horns play on it?
Did they start "Boston Rag" with the spare, bass & drums intro they used last time around?
Wonder if JH and LC will play the "Third World Man" solo in unison on Gaucho night like JH did with Wayne Krantz on the DF tour. That would be something to see.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 15:44:51 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Excellent and enjoyable detail from Denise on the Boston show - thanks a lot.
Great news about Larry Carlton too. Some friends have tix for the Beacon Scam show - can't make the trip myself (I wish), but look forward to hearing the guitar triumvirate of Carlton, Herington and Becker in some form at some point.
Curious to know what Herington's job as Musical Director might entail - does it mean he leads band rehearsals when DF and WB are not present ? Surely they call the shots when they are in attendance ?
Re the 'celeb' SD fans thread - well, from a UK viewpoint, we had McCartney and Gilmour at Hammersmith 07, and at one of the two Wembley Arena gigs in 96 I was sitting directly in front of the lovely chipmunkish Cheryl Baker of Eurovision winners Bucks Fizz, who sang along with not a few of the tunes. And if a minor 'celeb' who is a big fan trumps a major celeb with just a passing interest, then I give you BBC sports reporter John Inverdale, who actually named his daughter 'Josie'.
Re Ronnie Scott's club (mentioned by The Dean a while back) - certainly wouldn't want to discourage anyone from grabbing a show there when in London (great sound system), but it just isn't quite the same place it was back in the late 80's / 90's - a relaxed and slightly down at heel meeting place for an eclectic but knowledgeable crowd, similar to the NY blues club you described. After RS died, it was bought up and refurbished, and now seems more geared towards the tourist, expense account and corporate hospitality market. Way of the world I guess.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 14:52:59 ET
Posted by: CerpinTaxt, Boston!
wow i really wish i got tickets to any of these 3 shows. alas, the perils of being a broke college student. i saw sd in 06 @ the tweeter center, great woods, whatever you wanna call it.
anyways, this might be a stretch, but anybody have an idea where don and walt are staying in boston?
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 14:34:14 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Denise: What a review!!!!!!!
You can tell where your talent is, your graphics backround was coming through loud and clear in the review. It added a nice touch to the music talk. :-)
Boston, congrats on a great show last night.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 13:38:33 ET
Posted by: Craig B.,
Thanks Denise
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 11:54:59 ET
Posted by: Thefez98, Boston
Yep. Just found it as well. Looks like that might be the last shot. There appears to be a little descrepency though in the time. The FUSE website (http://www.fuse.tv/tvschedule/) has it listed for 8pm yet my local listings for 8/2 on tvguide.com show 9pm. Heck, it is a Sunday night so hopefully get the kiddies in bed, grab a cold one and be tuned in at 8pm just in case. Thanks!
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 11:36:16 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
FUSE 8/02 9PM
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 11:31:17 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Thanks, Fez,
The MSG site seems to only list the MSG airings. MSG isn't carried by my cable system here in FL. FUSE's website sucks for info.
I'll just have to search the listings every day. I forgot the other day, and missed a daytime rerun.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 11:31:15 ET
Posted by: Bill Buckner, Bucky Dent's house
Any chance they will also complement tomorrow night's show with Scam. I'd bet $ on it.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 11:27:09 ET
Posted by: Thefez98, Boston
I found FUSE on Comcast cable in Boston area. At least in Norton FUSE is channel 271. I looked at TV listings though for the channel and no mention of Steely Dan. WTF
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 11:22:12 ET
Posted by: Thefez98, Boston
Sorry, Dean. Not sure where I got VIBE, meant FUSE. Been a long day already and not even noon time. Yes, I am referring to the Steely Dan: Rent Party 'infomercial'. It is being repeated a number of times over the next week or so and I would like to catch it. See http://www.msg.com/steelydan/ for dates/times.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 11:14:22 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Fez98,
What is "the VIBE show"? Is that the MSG/Azoff infomercial Steely Dan: Rent Party? Or are you referring to something else?
I'm still looking for reruns on FUSE, and appreciate any info from those in the know.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 11:09:30 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Dirty Water? Is that Pete Townshend? "
*** " WTF ?! " ****
**** " ? " *****
******* You make Joey say , " Huh ?! " ********
Why ?!
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 11:08:33 ET
Posted by: TheFez98, Boston
First of all, sounds like an awesome show last night. Aja/Royal Scam back-to-back. Wow. Note in the same interview Donald indicated there was a chance that 'maybe we'll play Second Arrangement' on Internet Request Night in Boston. Wouldn't that be something! We are really looking forward to Saturday night/8 rows back. I do think we will finally hear the Wu and possibly Gold Teeth I/II.
Hey, I see on the MSG.COM website that they are replaying the VIBE show at 9pm on Friday night on the MSG network. Does anyone know if it is available on the Comcast network in the Boston area? I have looked around and so far come up empty. Is it being streamed anywhere (in its entirety)? Any help appreciated. Thanks - Jim
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 11:04:55 ET
Posted by: Donald Fagin,
Now if we can get WB back on Bass where he belongs and leave the guitar work to JH & LC then we'd have a GREAT band!
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 10:29:16 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Sounds like an AWESOME night!!
Trying to get to Chicago or NYC... hope I can see one of these shows.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 09:29:00 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Many thanks to Denise and the others. Looks like we missed quite a night. I also learned a new word. Who uses "beribboned" outside of New England. (My spell checker doesn't even know it.) :#)
If it wasn't for some financial constraints (including a $2,000 car repair) I couldda been there. Last minute ticker offer. DAMN! Still hoping to make Scam in LA.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 09:20:11 ET
Posted by: STEELYFEZ, CT_NYC
Outstanding setlist in my humble opinion.
WOW!!!
I can't wait to see what Saturday Night brings.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 08:13:48 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
My bad -- I forgot Boston Rag on my encore list. I assure you I didn't miss it, but I did black out from the smooth stylings of the Dan soon after I arrived home.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 06:57:42 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
TRUST AMERICA'S GREATEST ROCK AND ROLL BAND TO DO IT AGAIN
by Big Ida Lee
{Dateline(Boston)}
Just when you thought they had played every last self-serving, megalomaniacal card in the deck, the boys and band of Steely Dan go and pull a stunt like Wednesday night at the SD of venues, I mean the Wang. Instead of playing the advertised program, they select an additional album of hits and (by modern standards) encores to GIVE a show that totally redeems my perceptions of aloofness, jocular snarkdom, play-what-I-philia, and whatever.
THOSE GUYS DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT SHOW!
When the '09 tour came to light there was marked unease in an uncertain world. Not enough unease, mind you, that would keep me and my pack and a couple of dozens of other thousands from dropping everything and attending revelry. But there were some doubts. The guitar players are too introspective or noodly some thought. There are one too few sax players with shaved heads said others. The drummer needs to shuffle off for lessons. The setlist is tired and horrible-- and the portions are so small. The European neighbors precluded proper rest in those sleeping-room-only venues. The slider pitched his driven manual to the wind. Those sucking new sorry arrangements blow. One loudmouthedknow-it-allpunk was stricken by the "ballsiness" of the "pandering." And over all wa$ a $ini$ter $hroud I can't quite put my finger (much le$$ my hand$) on.
I don't know a 3/2 salsa clave from a mellotron, and I don't know where history will place that surprise ending to its most technically perfect album, but I DO know I will doff my cap sooner, genuflect a little lower, and enjoy a new level of respect and admiration in a whole 'nother plane for America's greatest rock and roll band for pulling in to play what has to be one of the greatest unlooked for and unexpected shows ever and making at least a couple of people I know fall in love with the Steely that is Dan all over again-- and for an unlooked for and unexpected reason.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 06:40:50 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
First off: Luddites rejoice. An evening of the finest kind and historical without a single tweet of a twitter making it back to those of us huddled about the friendly glow of the monitor.
The suspense was as good as waiting for the last chorus of "Kings."
The following comes from a periodical I just made up.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 02:32:41 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Thanks to all of those who have posted Boston reports so far, and a special thanks to Denise for your detailed review. It may be that this will be the only show ever to feature two entire albums, back to back, in the setlist. If so, it sounds like the Boston fans have earned that distinction, based on other posts here.
GW
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 01:49:53 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, OooooohOhhhh Boston you're my home
Major - Dirty Water was a 60's hit by the Standells. One of those garage band tnes like Louie, Louie. It's been adopted by the Red Sox as the song they play when they win (which hasn't been much lately).
Mark in Boston
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 01:45:43 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
I found this interesting and, most of all, witty:
From the NYC Dandom list:
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:09:09 -0400
From: ununclebob@aol.com
Subject: [DANDOM-NYC] Danfest idea, Steely Dan Seance
Happy tour or whatever you say.
The meet and drinks are great! My buddy Steve and I plan to come Friday for dinner and Saturday after the show.
We were trying to thing of something unique for a Danfest since there are EIGHT shows and we came up with this idea for either a before or after-show event.
How about a seance?
I looked into it and we can hire a medium for a Dan Fest and hold a seance. Wouldn't it be cool to talk to Cornelius or Jeff Porcaro? Apparently it really works the way you see on TV. You light candles, hold hands and the medium attempts to make contact. Even if it the medium ends up being a quack, at least it would be a unique experience. Imagine a medium channeling Jerome Anton or David Palmer.
I looked into it and if we get ten people we could do it for $50 to $100 each. There are several mediums in NYC.
Let me know if you are interested. I hope that we can put it together for one of the shows, probably in August, but maybe the late July shows.
Bob
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:13:12 -0400
From: "Girl Margaret" <girlmargaret@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [DANDOM-NYC] Danfest idea, Steely Dan Seance
Um, Bob, that sounds pretty groovy, but David Palmer's not dead. If you want to connect with him you can just fly out to LA and look him up.
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From: ununclebob@aol.com
Dear Margaret,
How do you know David Palmer won't die before the seance???? This all about clairvoyance, you know?!
( OK. You got me. I meant that Hodder guy who was also on Can't Buy a Thrill. He's dead, right? )
Anyone else on board beside Margaret ???
Un-Uncle Bob
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From: Doc Boguski <steelydoc@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [DANDOM-NYC] Danfest idea, Steely Dan Seance
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:27:11 -0400
maybe you can just channel David Palmer's career, that seems to have died a while back...
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From: ununclebob@aol.com
So far we have 7 people who have expressed interest in the seance.
We need a few more.
The dates later in August would be better.
If you are interested, please email me along with the number who will attend with you.
(Un-Uncle) Bob
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Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 01:42:54 ET
Posted by: Major Dame, Capital
Dirty Water? Is that Pete Townshend?
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 01:39:36 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
kzkzkz: The 1995 and 2003 Roseland Shows are like bookends...both pairs of shows very magical and among their best. Prior to 2003's Roseland Shows, the 1995 Roseland shows were considered the best by many in the greater dandom.com who attended many shows--and it set the stage for 2003. Everyone was already buzzed for the 2003 Roseland shows because of 1995.
Commerical with SD playing "Reelin'" on the MIdnight Special DVDs is on now. Who are the white back up singer ladies, one with a green head scarf?.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 01:29:58 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Happy as a clam
Wow - Boston Rag too???? Kaz - Were you sleeping during this? Not in your encore list.
Sounds like an awesome time Denise.
Hell, maybe they'll bundle the entire Katy Lied album with the Internet requests.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 01:29:50 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl,
Wow, game ON. Just home from Boston, and I can't wait for Friday and Saturday! Dirty Water was a nice surprise in the encore, they played Boston Rag before it. The crowd was ideal for them, in a quiet way - applause and cheers after solos, standing and big applause after the completion of the two albums, very little dancing, and no inappropriate boozy shouting. They pretty much got a respectful lovefest; it bodes well for the weekend.
Did everybody else think DF's vocals were really top notch tonight? It seems the rest between shows makes a world of difference. Man, he sounded nice. And he was right up center stage, not off to stage left.
Excellent, excellent. And the Globe already has its review up:
http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2009/07/23/a_royal_treat_from_a_lively_steely_dan/
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 01:29:24 ET
Posted by: Greg M, not boston
"Haitian Divorce: Don on vocals."
That says everything.
And Boston Rag?!!? Not since 2000 right?
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 01:23:37 ET
Posted by: Denise, correction
On Don't Take Me Alive: the backlighting was from BELOW :)
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 01:18:58 ET
Posted by: Denise, BOS
What a great show! For those of you who have not been to the Wang, picture a lot of gold leaf covering beribboned bowls of fruit, cherubs, nymphs, and just about everything. Ceiling paintings of (I think) muses of the arts. Trompe l'oeil ceiling. Deep crimson curtains framing the stage and the faux arched windows.
This is a bit long...sorry
Sam Yahel trio opened and played to a sparse but appreciative crowd for about a 1/2 hour.
Intro: instrumental, all musicians had solos
D&W enter to great applause: then into...
Black Cow: Roger Rosenberg had a nice pice during this.
Aja:a gem, Walt, Jon, and Walt W. showcased. Beautiful lighting, effects on the background going in and out of focus using a ripple effect.
Deacon Blues: Someone here called it sublime a few days ago, and it was. Walt W. outstanding.
Peg: the crowd just loves this and I do as well, no matter how many times I hear it.
Home at Last: 2 spotlights on Fagen at the opening notes, nice touch. Marvin Stamm soloed: very fine. Walt was fabulous on this tune.
BTW, good to see Carolyn back, and enjoyed hearing her voice. She has a great fluid sense of movement that I enjoy watching.
I Got the News: Opens with spots on Keith & Freddie, Walt in the lead on this one as well. He is playing more in the forefront this time than I remember last year, and it is a treat.
Josie: opens with an emerald green backdrop to those distinctive chords, which reappears each time that it's played. Emphasizes that sequence.
End of Aja, standing O. Donald says the Boston Globe reporter asked them why only 3 shows and no Royal Scam? He said the gauntlet had been thrown down, so they are going to do Scam tonight as well. Audience goes crazy!
Kid C: Jon on fiyah. Yes, there's gas in the cah! Audience is still standing, going crazy. Noticed Walt switched from his blue strat to the other one.
Caves of Altimira: great to hear this for the first time live (for me) Orange lights from above and purple from below give the stage a warmth and depth that is stunning.
Don't Take Me Alive: Jon opening is excellent..the audence sings "agents of the law, luckless pedestrian." the backlighting from blow is a beautiful silhoutte effect.
Sign in a Stranger: Jim Beard has a fine solo on this after "scurvy brother"
Fez: D&W leave the stage, the band and the ladies perform this one
Green Earings: D&W return. Don looks like he's having fun "I don't mind, I don't mind, mind, mind"
Haitian Divorce: Don on vocals. Jim Pugh spotlighted on this after the "grotto." On the fade to black verse, the lights did as well, nice touch. Jon gave us a bit of fun at the end, a extra bit of the wah-wah pedal (or filter, whatevah)
Everything You Did. seemed slow to me...anyone else feel that way?
Royal Scam: funky, gets whistles from the audience after the line "without a dime." Everytime Don sings "the glory of the Royal Scam," the audence cheers. Jim excellent on this, he plaed back and forth with the vocals using the mute on his trombone.
Another standing ovation.
Don says, "We have a little more time, so we're going to keep playing."
Hey Nineteen: audiece hoots at the "sweet things from Boston" line and sings along with "where the hell am I?" Walt has his blue strat back. His story begins, "It's a beautifull night in Boston" and goes along the usual bit. The he says the guys going to buy his date a souvenir, "one of those [lit up SD] antennae they are selling on the way out 'cause we're into them for a lot of money" He goes on about how maybe "you went to Boston University or M.I.T, well, probably not a lot of you went to M.I.T, or high school, even" And just as he got to the Cuervo gold and fine colombian part, I could detect a whiff of it, seems as though someone was saving it for that very moment. (Or maybe it was a flashback, who can say.)
Itchin in My Heart/Band intros
Audience on their feet, Don grabs the melodica and goes into Black Friday. The ladies were great with their dancing routine here.
Boston Rag: the crowd had simmered down and I think this caught them off guard, not as big of a cheer as I thought there would be. Beautiful green and blue lights on the backdrop. Walt turned up the volume and was wonderful here.
A surprise: Dirty Water! (I love that dirty water. Oh, Boston you're my home.) Crowd goes nuts.
My Old School: crowd standing, singing along
Outro.
Thank you to the band and the crew. It was a memorable show. Good night.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 00:53:28 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
Both albums were played in their original order. There was virtually no breaks between songs. I expected Donald to make some comments here and there, but the first time he addressed the audience was after the Aja album was over. He referenced the Boston Globe interview, when they alluded to playing both Aja and the Royal Scam, and said they were going to give it a shot. He didn't talk to the audience again until after the Royal Scam. Walter did a bunch of talking on the encore, including the band intros and the Hey 19 story.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 00:46:39 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben , Tall County AR
So did the album material come in original LP order? How did the spacing between go? Can we get you a seat? Would you care for a glass of water?
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 00:41:50 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, nycyn
Dean,
Not aware of any interview regarding this double album playing scenario. Just know I had a feeling about it and posted here last night. Strange also, a number of years ago I ran into The Donald at a local record store in the city. This was after the Roseland shows- not THE Roseland shows, the ones before THOSE. Before 2vN; there was a remark Donald made on stage regarding a suggestion box at the back of the venue for he & Walter to get ideas for a new album. I mentioned to him as long as you guys still play the old stuff no one will care if there's new stuff. I added "there was a long time where there was no stuff period." I wanted to add something along the lines of-why new stuff?,you guys have barely touched the Royal Scam album. The next time around it was Scam heavy. Maybe it's The Donald with special powers! And yes, THOSE Roseland shows were the sh^t. The energy from band and audience during Kid C was unreal. Walter and Donald yelling Woo! afterwards as if they were now part of the audience too. By the way, I believe The Donald was returning a stack of 11 Tracks of Whack as a goof that day.
(Kidding-would have liked to ask him what he bought though.)
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 00:24:50 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
In terms of what was sloppy --
A couple hits on "Caves of Altamira" were off, and the Fez didn't come together quite right. Don't get me wrong though... The show was great!
Some highlights for me were Home At Last -- slowed down and really funky. It had a sweet keyboard intro rather than the usual piano. "I Got the News" was another standout. The choir was sounding great all night, and you could really hear the vocal harmonies well. Donald's vocals were sounding great as well. He hit some of those high notes he sometimes struggles with, and he even ad libbed some vocal fills at a couple points.
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 00:18:08 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
No Joke! Royal Scam in its entirety. The crowd went nuts, and we got twice the Steely Dan albums!
It was one of the most energized crowds I have seen at a steely dan show, and donald and walter seemed to be eating it up.
The encore was a surprise too. I kept thinking they were on their last song, but they kept coming -- Hey Nineteen, Black Friday, Band intros, dirty water, My Old School
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 00:15:26 ET
Posted by: The Deans, St. Augustine Beach
kzkzkz,
Dunno if it was before or after your prediction, but Donald was quoted as saying they might play both (or was it Walter?) in a recent interview. If your prediction predated that, then Well Done!
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 00:07:47 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, t-6days
Yesterday, June 21st at 23:37 I predicted this event. Aja + Scam. Why I can not use my powers to hit the lottery is beyond me...
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 00:03:09 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, .
Kaz - Great! Did they play the complete Royal Scam album?
Donald played Dirty Water at the Boston ILAA soundcheck a few years ago.
Looking forward to more reports!
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 00:02:22 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
WHOA!
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2009, 00:01:13 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Katz,
Now you're just screwing with us.
:#)
Seriously, is that true? I hope we get a little more detail. Actually, I am sure we will. I;d like to know what from Royal Scam was "sloppy" and something about the encores.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 23:49:05 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
Just got back from the first Boston show... They played Aja, then they announced they were playing the Royal Scam as well! A two for one deal!
The band sounded great, though there was a technical issue that was never fixed during deacon blues. The Aja stuff was right on, but a few songs on Royal Scam seemed sloppy. The show was great, despite this. Donald seemed like he was having a blast, and the crowd energy was great. Plus, they played a five song encore, including a cover of "Dirty Water"!
Overall, a great show, and I cannot wait for the other nights!
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 23:46:03 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
Saw Carlton a couple of years ago with Herbie Hancock and friends (M.Miller, Colaiuta etc)- they only played a couple of gigs together.
It was great and one can only imagine how he plays the songs that made him famous 30 years later.
He will also play with his own band here in SF and Santa Cruz just a few days later in August.
New Studio Krantz/Carlock/Lefebre coming soon as well.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 23:13:03 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
You guys went through this 6-8 weeks ago, but I'm thinking albums played in original LP order.
What a night.
Now here's a reason to move to the city.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 23:03:43 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Not at the Wang
I second Hoops on his last post. Wow! There certainly are plenty of whiners lately on the Bluebook. This is a time to celebrate!
I'm amazed that it's taken 16 years of touring to get Larry on stage with Steely Dan. Larry has been playing Kid C, DTMA and Josie in his act for about 20 years. He's not only the author of the solos, he still knows them quite well. I'm sure he will blow the roof off the Beacon even though it will be an exact stamp of the original solo.
It's the lineup and set list we could have seen if they didn't cancel tour plans in 1978.
The show on the 25th promises to be Christmas in July!
Hope to hear from Denise tonight!
Mark in Boston
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 21:37:39 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Regarding any thought that Jon, the girls, etc would be "upset" or "jealous" or "angry" about guest musicians:
Absolute rubbish that anyone would even suggest that. A sane person would move on and not waste any time on such talk.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 21:24:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
In 2006 (I think) Bonnie Raitt came onstage and sang Dirty Work. On other stops on this tour, this was sung by the babe choir. Were the girls upset to have their one song taken from them? Hardly. They BEAMED with joy, and spread tears and hugs afterward.
As was noted, Jon seemed pleased with Randall joining the boys for Reelin. Why wouldn't he be? These musicians aren't petulant children. They are accomplished professionals, who are generous with their music and their spirit. The Dan seems like a band with very few ego problems.
Some of the posters on The Blue could lean from their example.
Larry will be a guest, and I am sure a welcome and appreciated one, by band and audience alike.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 20:33:08 ET
Posted by: geeez guys, Larry is just a guest
Larry Carlton has not been rehearsing with Steely Dan and is not going to replace their guitar player. He's going to play some solos and do comping on tunes he can follow the changes on. The band is going to have a great time with an incredible musician for a few gigs.
It's no slap in the face to Jon. Jon wouldn't have the gig if it weren't for Larry and Elliot.
You think Keith Carlock would consider it a slap in the face if they added Steve Gadd on a second kit for a few gigs?
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 19:41:52 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
In the videos of Reelin' in the Years from London with Elliot Randall as the centerpiece, Jon Herington actually seems energized. I don't know what his reaction to this is, but if that incident is any indicator, he won't be too upset (or he is really good at hiding his true emotions).
Also, we don't really know how his role will change based on Carlton performing with them. Personally, I would assume that Carlton would play his original solos like Kid Charlemange, Don't Take Me Alive etc. I know Herington performs those on tour, but I hope (and believe) he realizes that it's exciting for the fans when the original guitarist plays the solos.
Additionally, let's not forget that he's only going to play on Royal Scam and Internet Request nights. Only a fraction of all the album nights.
I could be completely wrong about this, and Herington could have a fragile ego. I don't know him personally. But if his ego is that big, do you think he gets upset because of all the solos Becker plays?
And he has been the musical director and lead guitarist for nine years... that's much longer than the tenures Krantz, Zingg, and Wadenius combined. That alone, I think, says something about how much respect Becker and Fagen have for him.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 19:14:21 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
DoktaDakota: Please don't LooChang(e) out if some smartass says the CD here (or there in Perugia) was a person or somebody.
I'm sure I'm wrong,but I would have to guess that JH is almost as self-actualized as LC or any other potential or actual Breadline brother and will welcome a (nother) legendary player and chum. He probably won't have to fret about his role in the mix.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 18:53:14 ET
Posted by: Bad Decision,
Wrong, Dean...
Jon's role has been lead guitar/musical director for nine years...Generous musician or not, it's a slap in his face to announce and promote it as "The Rent Party '09 12-piece band will be enlarged by one"...
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 18:50:15 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, Florence
Larry Carlton - I'll get to that at the end of this message.
Ok, see who can spot the common denominator in the following (really very easy) puzzle, between Blue Note Milano and Perugia: damn, did I give it away already??
Blue Note NYC was just mentioned in a previous post. I went 3 times to Blue Note Milano: not NYC, not Tokyo, not Nagoya, not Seoul, but Milano.
The artists I saw were Holly Cole (twice) and Eliane Elias. The 2 Holly Cole gigs were on consecutive nights: both were less than half full. The Eliane Elias gig was...you've guessed it, achingly empty.
During both Holly's shows, the audience ate, snapped their fingers (for the waiters' attention, not in time with Holly's music), clinked glasses, laughed, answered their mobile phones, sent & received text messages, etc.
During the Eliane Elias show, before she was even half-way thru the FIRST NUMBER, she suddenly stopped playing, and stood up from the piano. The band were confused and one by one stopped playing and sounded like they had screwed up a studio recording and were going for a second take. Ms Elias in a very stern but polite tone (not in Jarrett's league but very irritated all the same) reminded the audience of the pre-concert public announcement regarding flash photography and general respect for the performing artists, especially in such a small intimate venue. As she spoke, someone took her photo...with a mobile phone, laughing all the while. She closed her eyes and counted to way more than ten, then sat back down at the piano. She played well enough, but the general feeling was one of rushing thru the performance. The set was painfully short. Some people left WHILE she was playing...
So, the common denominator is???
Larry Carlton performed at Blue Note Milano in 2007 but after the previous harrowing displays of artist non-appreciation, I decided not to make the trip. Did I miss anything? Then last year in NYC I happened to pass by Blue Note and Larry Carlton was performing... but I couldn't attend. Did I miss anything??
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 18:31:10 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Larry sitting in can only be good news. It hurts nobody, and Jon is a generous musician.
Denny should sit in in LA, if possible. I think that's where he lives now.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 18:09:15 ET
Posted by: As long as we're bringing people back, let's
bring back Denny...he's earned it.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 18:05:49 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Jon Herington must have been just thrilled
when he got the news... "
Funny !!!!!
I STILL feel a " Wu " coming on ........
....and you's ?!
Developing ..............
Joey
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 18:04:57 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
<<<<Jon Herington must have been just thrilled when he got the news...>>>
Oh I don't think they'll make him sit out. He'll just pick up and play other parts. Jon will miss some solos, I imagine, but I think he is equally happy sitting back playing some key rhythm parts like he did when Wayne Krantz took solos on the DFB tour.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 17:58:43 ET
Posted by: Bad Decision,
Jon Herington must have been just thrilled when he got the news...
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 17:12:48 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, IKnewYawrkSittingPretty
Larry Carlton was already booked for a residency at The Blue Note in NYC; August 4-9, 2 sets (8 & 10:30pm) each night after night. Makes sense that he shows up at the Beacon-as it also makes sense The Donald and Sir Walter guest at the Blue Note.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 16:33:50 ET
Posted by: oleander, susponed without warning
This just in: Sasha Frere-Jones (or as Dr. F calls him, Sasha Frere-Jacques) in the 7/27 New Yorker on the Dan, with a tattoo-worthy graphic:
http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/notebook/2009/07/27/090727gonb_GOAT_notebook_frerejones
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 16:20:04 ET
Posted by: Fourplay, Coldplay, its still Play to me,
Please don't take it personally, Boston. Looks like Larry was already booked:
7/22/09 Hollywood Bowl Los Angeles CA, USA Fourplay featuring Larry Carlton, Bob James, Nathan East & Harvey Mason
7/23/09 Tahoe Music Festival Truckee CA, USA Fourplay featuring Larry Carlton, Bob James, Nathan East & Harvey Mason
7/24/09 Villa Montalvo Arts Center Saratoga CA, USA Fourplay featuring Larry Carlton, Bob James, Nathan East & Harvey Mason
7/25/09 Winter Park Jazz Festival Winter Park CO, USA Fourplay featuring Larry Carlton, Bob James, Nathan East & Harvey Mason
Sheesh.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 16:01:52 ET
Posted by: Throw Back, The Little Ones
It's no fluke. They need to sell tickets.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 16:00:12 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
No Larry and no Scam? I thought they liked Boston ...
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 15:54:59 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, Florence
Larry Carlton is onboard? Surely SD haven't resorted to doing cruise ships??? Well, if it means that Little Johnny Herring-ton will be sleeping with the fishes (geddit? overboard? fishes? reelin' in the years???)
Boy did I get THAT news!! Now I just need to save up for 2 years to get over for the gigs next month and I'm all set to sail! Dan ahoy!!
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 15:49:32 ET
Posted by: TheFez98, Boston
Pixeleen - I got real excited too when I saw the Larry Carlton news in the latest SD newsletter. The excitement waned quickly, however, when I saw he was going to play all the Internet Request nights EXCEPT Boston. Wonder why? Hmmmm. Maybe we will get a surprise. Regardless, we are looking for a long overdue night out on Saturday, should be alot of fun.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 15:46:48 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, fuera de la casa de los perros
Ya see?? No sooner have I mentioned Ruby Baby and in waltzes Reuby Baby! Good evening mate! Well, it's evening where I am, and first off I'd say your getting your Italian mixed up with your Spanish and the result is like a latter-day Esperanto, which I honestly thought about studying some years back. But you're no third world man and certainly not from any terzo mondo (I got your jokey jibe, you meant 'casa de perros'.. I think...therefore I am!). I therefore can only assume that you're well aware what the verb 'to blut' means, infinitively speaking.
Talking of swear words and/or cursing, does anyone feel that B&F cringe a little (there's that word again!) when they hear/sing Showbiz Kids and it comes to 'that' word? I mean, looking back in anger, I think they are the type to admit errors of judgement and youth, and yet still get away with stuff that was very much a feeling and product of its time. In other words, do they stand by & defend that lyric? And what can you do about it anyway? Sing "..you know they don't give a hoot about anybody else.."??
PS - as I write I'm listening to Steps Ahead's 'NYC' album and 2 Dan related issues come to mind: Steve Smith re the ongoing/soon-to-be-forgotten Purdie Shuffle, and Mike Mainieri in place of Victor Feldman who was mentioned recently (and is also dead, is he not?).
Discuss.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 15:34:23 ET
Posted by: pixeleen, reelin' !!!
Just took a quick look at SD.com::::::
LARRY CARLTON will be joing the Rent Party on July 31, Aug. 1, Aug. 24 & 25, and Sept. 3 & 4 !!!!!
How damn cool is that !!!!!!
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 15:32:40 ET
Posted by: Me, First
Steely Dan newsletter. Larry Carlton is on board.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 14:39:45 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
DakDok: Sorry, forgot to ask, what's a blut?
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 14:33:57 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
DakDokBif: I was wondering if those antipyretics would chang(e) you. Don't know about your casi di perro, but my wife joined the concensus that I was just chatty with too much room for insightful or coherent relevance.
Good that kram fixed his problem even if you were left with a seat. Wow! What if you had created a hypothetical para-nymphic friend for your gig? I only say that because I just thought of it, and nobody gets within 40 rows or seats of me at the big show.
Rock on Boston!
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 14:06:15 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, Florence
Little Wild One - "Frequently, it is not all about the music, but the vibe and the exhilaration of being among those of your kind. I've been at some shows that I would rank very low on the list because my seats sucked or the mix was not right"...
Hallelujah! Vindication finally came my way...I'm home at last.
..but dang, you guys know how to unwittingly kick a man when he's down. By comparison, I almost felt alone at the recent Perugia gig, there was no-one of the Dan kind within at least 40 rows (which I discovered later thru BlueBook - thanks PGE). It's as if the cackling din the audience made was all part of the sound mix, and like B&F when they played around in the studio with a mixer desk, singling out vocal and guitar parts & mixing out everything else (and occasionally cringeing), it was like the sound guys in Perugia had mixed out the whole band and all I could hear was inane guff & rhubarb, like you were at a boisterous party and the music was suddenly pulled...kinda like the background ruckus you hear towards the close of Fagen's 'Ruby Baby'.
Anyway, it's over now. I'm clean. I shall endeavour (only coz I never keep promises) from this point on, to avoid all mention of the past event, to squash the bee which has buzzed interminably under my bonnet and irritated the hell out of me, and quite probably most other posters here, for the past 11 long days & nights. Yes folks, I'm thru with buzz. But jeez did it sting...
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 13:58:33 ET
Posted by: Greg M, What happened?
It's quite amazing that they didn't put out a live album from the Roseland Shows.
Imagine: "Steely Dan: Live at Roseland" It's got such a zing(g) to it, and it would have outsold Alive in America by a long shot I presume.
Double CD set, picking the best performances from each night (with some filler bonus tracks from the 2000 tour at the end - west of hollywood, jack of speed, night by night, perhaps).
It's not too late! Pull out the tapes and mix!
One can dream...
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 13:45:53 ET
Posted by: angel, LA...but thinking of Roseland
We do this every year or so, which one was best. I don't know and I don't care if it was Friday or Saturday. I had an unforgetable time and I am so glad I went on Friday. Here's the set list.
Cubano Chant (Band Only)
Aja
Time Out of Mind
Godwacker
Caves of Altamira
Black Cow
Babylon Sisters
Slang of Ages (Walter)
Band Intro
Peg
Home At Last
Set 2
Steely Dan Show
Janie Runaway (segue into)
Hey 19
Haitian Divorce (Walter Sings)
Lunch With Gina
Everything Must Go
Parker's Band (Back up Singers do lead)
Josie
Kid Charlemagne
Don't Take Me Alive
Encore
My Old School
FM
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 12:45:21 ET
Posted by: roseland, attendee
Re: the Roseland setlist. I remember reading a review that said to the effect that the 1-2 punch of Babylon Sisters and Slang of Ages let the air out of the tires. I agreed.
I wasn't at the Friday show. Were Michael & Carolyn at that one?
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 12:43:29 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, Houston
Greg, I think it is damn near impossible to say what makes one show better than another and so I am not even going to try to explain why those of us who were at both Friday and Saturday Roseland shows feel that Saturday was superior. Nor should you or anyone else be concerned that your fav show was inferior.
I know it sounds cliche, but, dude, it's all good.
Frequently, it is not all about the music, but the vibe and the exhilaration of being among those of your kind. I've been at some shows that I would rank very low on the list because my seats sucked or the mix was not right, but then something happens, like Ann from Borneo (who was sitting next to me) breaks down and sobs during "Deacon Blues," --which happens to have been the very same reaction I had when I heard it a show or two before.
Or you're standing at a pre-show Danfest and have non-twist off beer bottles and no opener. What to do? All of a sudden, one of the younger (college aged) members attending takes the bottle from you and says something to the effect of, "I don't like to publicize this, but I can help," and opens the damned bottles with her teeth!
These are the types of things that make shows stand out in my mind. And the one constant is that the music of Steely Dan and the friendships that have been forged here have made them all possible. So,it is immaterial if I get to attend one or thirty shows this year. These are the things I miss the most.
Sorry for the emotional outburst.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 12:28:19 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
I just watched the Rent Party Special, and I enjoyed it. I just wanted to point out that they had a shot of some setlist, and the first song on it was "Reelin' Club Mix." I guess that means that the new version of Reelin' is the "club mix," so "dry and heavy" must mean the original, modified original or some other "new" version of that song. I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but it answered my questions about that oddity on the Boston voting list, and I figured I would share.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 11:55:40 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
Roseland Friday v. Roseland Saturday.
I was front row center for Friday's show. I was dedicated and got there at 3pm to wait on line. (Although the "line" didn’t actually start until about 7.)
I was only at the Friday show -- but I have to say that it was best Steely show that I have ever seen out of my Dan 9 concerts. Everyone here, repeatedly, has expressed that the Saturday show was better than the Friday show. Why? Just because Walter said it was the "best show ever?"
I cant imagine how on earth the Saturday show edged out over the Friday show, considering the fact that the Friday show was a perfect in every respect. Zero flaws and inspired performances of EVERY song.
Friday RULED.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 11:11:15 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Anyways, I was looking at a McCartney internet forum for fans and concert-goers, and they were all complaining about how the current setlist is to boring and nothing but the big hits (gee, sound familiar?). "
WHAT ?! :
www.maccareport.com
First Encore
27. Day Tripper
28. Lady Madonna
29. I Saw Her Standing There
Second Encore
30. Yesterday
31. Helter Skelter
32. Get Back
33. Sgt. Pepper Reprise/The End
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 11:08:21 ET
Posted by: geo,
Totally agree with Ed! I was at both shows, Soboba and Roseland '03. Soboba was great but didn't come close to those Roseland shows. Especially that Saturday night show. There's really no argument as far as I'm concerned.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 10:52:28 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
young Wu
here's a pic of the actual Roseland setlist for the 9/13 show...
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1235232&l=79b5a1e295&id=855894503
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 10:29:23 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Tonight's selection... AJA!
Have a great time to everyone going to the first real Rent Party show. We will probably have to wait until the first internet request night to see if Wu is played... but what do people think will be played after the AJA album tonight? Just other greatest hits?
Also... I know this has probably been asked before, but what made the 2 show (Roseland and Soboba) the best of the best for live SD? And also, I remeber hearing a lot last year about the Red Rocks show being ranked almost as highly as those two, anyone who was at that concert have any comments about that?
And one more thing, I'm terribly sorry, but would anyone have the setlists to the Roseland, Soboba, and Red Rocks 2008 shows? I would love to see them.
Lotta questions and requests... not much more. Sorry.
Ah... one more little tidbit. I am going to my first Paul McCartney concert in 2 weeks at Fenway park. (Too bad SD won't be there in 2 weeks.) Anyways, I was looking at a McCartney internet forum for fans and concert-goers, and they were all complaining about how the current setlist is to boring and nothing but the big hits (gee, sound familiar?). But then someone mentioned what Steely Dan is doing this summer with the internet requests and full albums being played and the board loved it. So, kudos to SD for reaching out as far as they have to their fans! Of course, both Paul and Don and Walt could throw up on the stage and I would still love it. And on that lovely sendoff, I'm gone.
Have fun tonight, Boston!
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 10:28:10 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
Also, I agree with a lot of the discussion about the newer albums. I would really enjoy hearing Two Against Nature in its entirety, as it is a great album, and they have featured plenty of those songs on recent tours. Some might be tricky to do live, but that is a great album which really suits the current lineup.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 10:24:32 ET
Posted by: Kaz, Boston
Going to all 3 shows in Boston this week...
I was really excited about the fan voting night, but was bummed when I saw that there was no King of the World, and I haven't seen anyone mention it in the discussion! I would LOVE to hear King of the World live, though my hopes get dimmer every tour. I even had a dream about it one time, no joke. Any thoughts?! King of the World?! Might be a tough one to arrange live, but it would be glorious.
Finally, the interview in the Boston Globe alluded to the slight possibility that the Aja show might have the Royal Scam tacked on. That would be amazing!
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 09:59:53 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
For the record, I'd love to hear the newer albums live. Would also love a new studio album: SD and/or solo efforts.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 09:16:09 ET
Posted by: Why no emg, and tvn
There's just a much larger pool of fans who have come to know Aja/Gaucho/Scam over the years who would be willing to pay to hear it live. I think of my older cousins who have all of those on vinyl. Maybe they haven't listened to them in 25 years, but they haven't bought anything since the Nightfly.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 04:14:43 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Provincial Reuben, a salute to you as well, nicely realized posts, this is the sort of stuff I tune in for. And please remember that you are never, "over your head," here, musically speakin', everyone is endowed with the same set of listening devices and have the same ability to comment on what they hear, how they hear it. Whether you're a trained musician or just an aficiando makes no difference whatsoever.
The Blue is a music board, just a place where a few people intersect to exchange a couple of thoughts about a collection of artists who move us. A will'o the wisp place in cyberspace. The music we revel in is music for the ages, something that time does not diminish, a place where you can express your gratitude for the sounds that have enriched your life.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 02:05:44 ET
Posted by: Major Dame, Capital
One more thang: the Roseland shows
Bab Sis the backup vocalists on it were
the best I've ever heard on that song
I've been waiting for a repeat like that
to no avail! ugh
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 02:03:24 ET
Posted by: Major Dame, Capital
Yeah I agree about coming to see EMG and 2VN
I read that about Don saying that no one would come
What's that about? But I do hear people saying they don't
like those two and never hear otherwise on the rest
what about them doing the guitar solo from
Fire in the Hole at the beginning or an
instrumental at the start of the show like they
did fez last year? That would be shiz
Also I saw many discussing looking at the
running order for Boston etc?
Can we do that for Chicago? is there a place to
look what the order is?
to answer a question you should be able to vote
for NY now and check your spam and deleted
because I put my request night email in junk and almost deleted it
if you have deleted it you can email ticketmaster and request another email!
Anyone going to Chicago Request Night
Please vote for Night x Night and My Rival!!!
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 00:49:45 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Yes, Ed, from all reports, the Roseland shows that year were the bomb, can't go against so many fans' opinions.
Dr. Wu was indeed on the printed setlist at Soboba which are taped to the floor in front of the players. Saw it there with my own two binoculared eyes. Before Wu was to be played, Donald turned to Freddy and Keith and barked out something, Walter was listening in and after Donald returned to his mic, Walt shook his head and rolled his eyes. You can all read into that whatever you choose. This was my eyes-on experience.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 00:06:15 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
After reading the Soboba references, it occurred to me that Soboba was three years ago tonight (still on this coast, at least). Dean, you are correct, Dr. Wu was a soundcheck only. I believe that the Rajah reported that he saw it on the setlist, but it was omitted for some reason. In any case, I expect that the number of people who have heard it live will greatly increase in a few more days.
GW
Date: Wed, July 22, 2009, 00:00:36 ET
Posted by: ed_beatty, here there again
correction....
the two best Steely Dan Shows i ever saw/heard/felt and I've been to a few shows or so they say
HFS AGAIN
ED
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 23:58:35 ET
Posted by: ed_beatty, here and there
I was at Soboba.
I was there Roseland 2003 bof nights
Roseland 03 hands down is the two best Steely Dan ShowsI ever saw/heard/felt
HFS
ED
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 23:37:03 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, nycuinaweek
Howsabout they play Aja and as for the other stuff they play Scam album; Scam nite the other stuff is Gaucho album; Gaucho nite gives you Aja album as well. Encore each of these album shows should be the good Doctor, Woo-Hoo! Anyways....ticketmaster has released, or started to release great orchestra Beacon seats for "sold-out" shows. Just picked up a seat in the first 10 rows center orchestra. Only problem(besides $172 price)is there was no link for song requests. I have tix for the 3 internet shows, 6 total, so far. and have not been able to cast a vote. Tix for 2 purchased at Beacon box office; worker told me I could find the link on "his" website. At the time I amused myself by continuing this comedy. "Are you sure I can request songs via the Steely Dan website?" "Yes, I am sure he will have method for you to vote." "But, why can't I tell you what songs I want Steely Dan to play?" "I don't know Mr. Dan personally, but I am sure he will get your song request via the link on his website." Etc. One week and counting...
Would love to go to Boston, enjoy all who are so fortunate. Looking forward to to reviews and setlist info. Wow, after all these years to know, yes we know, that Dr. Wu will be played!!
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 23:25:24 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Hector,
Drugs are a wonderful, but dangerous thing.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 22:21:23 ET
Posted by: Hector E., Palmdale
Dr. Wu was played live by Steely Dan. I was there and I heard and saw it. I guess that makes me in the exclusive club, no?
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 21:37:59 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Wondering what the format will be for these album shows. I'm guessing they'll open with a mixed set and do the album after the break.
Will there be segues between the songs? Beautiful little pieces linking two or three songs together? Will there be much chatter from the stage in the way of tidbits of writing stories?
Will there be Wu?
So many questions.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 20:35:16 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
uhhhhh,
I believe Dr Wu was played as a sound check, not at the actual concert. AFAIK, Wu has NEVER been played live, in concert, by The Dan.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 20:28:35 ET
Posted by: kram, vt
"going to"
Bless u...i went to the wang site 5 min ago, as a last resort, and there they were, seemed like decent seats as well---thanks again for the help-let us get "danified" tomorrow---i'l be with a tall hippie kid with one eye (cuz of his hair)kid who listens to sd nonstop and has turned all high school "buds" on to it as well...it is a true blessing when my 15 yr old sits in his room, toking up and listening to 'razor boy" on repeat...i just know he'll have a great life
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 20:17:38 ET
Posted by: uhhhhhh,
Little Wild One was @Soboba.
Anyone who was @Soboba where Doctor Wu was played, why would Little Wild One, or anyone else be complaining? If they never play it again, Soboba show goers have that chestnut already cracked. Which for now puts you in a unique, rarefied elite status until if and when they ever play it again.
This is but one of the many reasons why I will agree that Soboba reigns as King of all Steely Dan shows.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 20:16:58 ET
Posted by: going to , Aja
All 3 tix I've bought have been through telecharge...have them hold it at the door, too late to get it even thru e-mail, that takes a few days.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 20:15:15 ET
Posted by: Tmorrows Grl,
Jumped to the interview and watched the YouTube performance of Kid Charlamange (always a favorite) on Storytellers and it was f*@# fantastic.
Got goosebumps. Are they selling copies of this legendary show? J.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 20:08:19 ET
Posted by: Kram, VT
Does anyone know if K. Jarrett has a couple tix to tomorrow's show at the wangster? Folks seem awful familiar with him, and I know he won't stand for PEG...ok--so back to me....telecharge says there are tix for tomorrow's show, anyone ever use them?
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 19:00:02 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour
8,
You hit the nail squarely on the head. Jarrett is a terrific player. I liked him much better years ago, though, when he wasn't quite as full of himself. There are many players who I prefer to KJ, actually. And they seem to be reasonable human beings. KJ has proven to be a fairly despicable human, at least judging from the way he treats his audiences and fellow musicians.
Jarrett doesn't even respect the long jazz tradition of quoting material from other players. ALL the great jazz players do it, as it is part of jazz' foundation. Suing SD was just further evidence that he doesn't get that. Gaucho sounds as much like Jarrett's tune, as Riki sounds like Silver's tune. Guess which jazz great sued? Can you imagine Parker suing Coltrane for quoting him during a solo? Preposterous.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 18:45:21 ET
Posted by: 8,
Oh you mean the Gaucho thing. Tant pis. It was intended as homage to KJ, and instead the dude got all pissed off. Either way, isn't really relevant. Jarrett's just not one of my favorite pianists (and Gaucho not my fave SD album), and his bizarre behavior during shows doesn't help. I don't think he's the master of standards either---his playing's frantic, not really that pleasing. Bill Evans may be a bit too morose or impressionistic for some, but he created magic with the old broadway stuff.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 18:31:52 ET
Posted by: 8,
I've been listening to jazz for 25+ years , including the ECM watered-down sort (and playing piano--albeit as amateur--for about that long as well). For that matter, you don't quite recall the debacle: it concerned the bassline from Horace Silver's Song for My Father, used at beginning of Rikki Don't Lose that Number, and really the tunes are not that similar. Jarrett was mistaken (I don't recall what happened with case, but that was the crux of the matter).
KJ's alright I guess--his solos don't really move me--but not in the same league with Bill Evans, Tristano, Oscar Peterson (a hack, but great technician), Brubeck, or even the older dudes like Tatum . And Ted Baker does some nice playing on some YT stuff. Fame does not guarantee virtuosity.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 18:31:06 ET
Posted by: Kram, VT
Hello Danners
I am deperately seeking tix...i have great 4 seats for tomorrow night but my friend, who i am bringing found out his 15 yr old son is jonesin'to go---i told him to tell his son tuff luck, but he begged me and my 15 yr old is going so i thought i'd try---i told him i knew this secret SD website where sometimes miracles can happen..checked stubhub & tix master-nothing...my question is 'Would there be any chance that radio stations or the like "throw tix back into the til" after 12 tomorrow, i've heard that u can go to TM "the day of" and be shocked at what u might find--lastly, if there is anyone that knows of someone that may not go for one reason or another, i only need one tix--i have included my real email and will check for any offers and check back thruout the evening for any thoughts...thanks!
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 18:27:46 ET
Posted by: Enough with the Jarrett, claptrap
already...It's all been said before on the Blue, several times over the years.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 18:20:54 ET
Posted by: Jarrett's Legacy,
"8" said about Keith Jarrett:
"and what's more he's not GREAT enough--like Horowitz, or even Bill Evans great--to put on the Maestro airs, really. I wager even a Ted Baker a better jazzer."
Not great? Not a Maestro? Baker a better "jazzer"? You've got some homework and lots of listening to do. KJ may be unpleasant sometimes, but when the music is on, there is no describing the effect. Let's also not forget that KJ is so good that Donald and Walter borrowed a song from him and named the album after the result.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 18:05:26 ET
Posted by: 8,
I enjoy some of KJ's muzak (his Bach mo' than his jass, really) but as a person he seems fairly annoying, and what's more he's not GREAT enough--like Horowitz, or even Bill Evans great--to put on the Maestro airs, really. I wager even a Ted Baker a better jazzer. Bernhardt perhaps, tho' he's a bit overrated as well.
Another legend of the ivories: Liberace. Hipsters might laugh or scowl, but Liberace, however, uh, colorful, actually played Chopin like a mutha-f-er (and Freddy Chopin played jass--at least harmonies--way before 'nawlins pimps were).
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 17:23:26 ET
Posted by: dog eat dog, near random universe
I want two sisters shaking
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 17:06:10 ET
Posted by: T, Avignon
Monaco report
July 12 2009
Thanks to the artistic director of The Sporting Summer Festival, Mister Jean-René Palacio.
Eric from Nice and I, could have spoken directly with him just after the show:
“I’am still upset. It was a personal dream to see them here on stage at Monte-Carlo. I’am glad because I know that the people were happy tonight”
The Monte-Carlo Sporting Club is a luxurious place beside the sea.
First, you have to let your car to a valet.
The star’s room (salle des étoiles), capacity about 1000, has a huge beautiful open roof.
You must be well-dressed and jacket must be worn.
Even the Steely Dan’s staff was.
Half of the audience was eating, joined by the second half (drink only) before the show.
When we arrived inside, a first orchestra was already playing and I was really surprised, there were no Steely Dan’s instruments on stage. No traces about the Donald’s Rhodes, the Walter’s Mesa amplifier, or the Yamaha piano and drums !?...because...a...revolving stage !
The 22h30 show was 20 minutes late.
I know that Donald and Walter weren’t specially excited to play in this kind of cocktail atmosphere, but were successful to do the show.
Sincerely, on my own european tour (7 dates), it was surprisingly the best one after the Hammersmith Apollo London. Maybe, because you are close and not a lot.
But, I also think they didn’t play a minimum: three or four songs more to get an usual setlist and for the amazing good crowd of this night.
For example, what about no Green Earrings herein, guys ?
They prefer the Mister Alain Ducasse’s cook...
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 16:53:35 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, .
Here's something that's never happened before:
VH-1 Classic 4-5pm: Making of Aja
Fuse 4:30-5pm: Rent Party Special
Steely Dan on two different stations at the same time.
Mark in Boston
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 16:31:38 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Rueben - Warren Bernhardt played on the Alive in America tour if memory serves, what a hot sweltering night at the old Blockbuster Pavillion in the middle of the goddam desert that was that summer of...96, was it? I believe it's him on the 29 second intro to Reelin in the Years from that date, marvelous. And which is relayed to us in the chorus of the ladies on this tour, goiung flat on it so convincingly...
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 16:25:12 ET
Posted by: SAC, fan
Austin Powers movie featured Incense & pepermints.
the album will make its 40th anniversary appearance a week from today.
BUY IT,
preorder today!!!
http://www.sundazed.com/product_info.php?products_id=1100
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 15:30:46 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, Momentarily out of the doghouse
Rajah - schucks...and there I was, ready to roll my cart back up the aisle, and kiss the checkout girls goodbye... If you'd written that 2 weeks ago I'd have suspected you were angling for the free Perugia ticket!! ;O)
Y'know I reckon if Keith Jarrett can't learn to suppress those wild, unprovoked Tourette-type flights off the handle, he's gonna be the one facing a half-empty venue, which B&F were sadly confronted with. I witnessed Jarrett's Perugia petulance in '07, and was gobsmacked for at least the first 3 numbers. Quite seriously, the atmosphere became so tense, many were notably restless and distracted and simply couldn't concentrate. And I wondered how Peackock & DeJohnette managed to remain completely unmoved. Maybe Jarrett does that to them as well in the dressing room before they all walk on?? Does anyone know if it's something Jarrett now does regularly, I mean at every gig in whatever country? Maybe he only does it where he knows the audience have a tendency to chatter, giggle, cough, breathe, blink more than twice a minute?? But I mean the groaning and grunting is just not on, and he's worsened over the years. Is he a classic flawed genius??
Dave from Acquisitions:
a) your monicker's too long. From now on you're Dave, or Monica
secondly) Ferryite Mr Gregor Philp has been Deacon Blue's guitarist for some time now, and has a sideline outfit called Heavy Little Elephants
d) what happened to c?
e) I'm going to Boston...by hook AND by crook, but ultimately by plane. You in?
Frustratingly can't see any of the SD YouTube stuff folks are suggesting/posting, no ADSL where I live yet (way up/out in the Chianti hills) and 56k just can't cut it.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 14:05:55 ET
Posted by: RS, X
Jarrett was banned for that outburst.
http://jazztimes.com/articles/23750-keith-jarrett-officially-banned-from-umbria-jazz-festival-after-outburst
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 13:06:03 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
KJ, I just now saw that Keith Jarrett rant you posted, oy gevalt, I'd never seen this awful display before from Umbria 07, this is just reprehensible behaviour on Jarrett's part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB9mMABRM0c&NR=1
That's just...beyond the pale.
Jarrett's grunting runs so retrograde to his insistance upon silence on the audience's part. He is the next Howard Hughes, I swear. Ah, but his playing, the notes he hears, what can you say? I say cast him as Dr. Evil in the next Austin Powers flick.
Dakota Biff, your posts are adding great class to this board. Your English is obviously your mother tongue, I appreciate your informed commentary very much. Forza Biff.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 12:53:34 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, prairie doggin'
Well, that interview sure had the effect of rubbing salt in the wound. Just when I think that I am too busy to miss seeing all my favorite people in the world for a couple of magical nights, BAM. I get the caustic humor thrown at me.
I know I sure would pay big bucks to see the last two played live in one gulp. But, then, as Donald says, "We're like sheep, really."
We'll be living vicariously through our Boston bound pals. I'll be working a concert Saturday night (The Fray). I'm pretty sure that will make up for not hearing the tears of joy when Wu is played live for the first time.....
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 12:47:20 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, The Boys Are Back In Town
“We’ve seen a few (requests) from various places, and it’s been a lot of hits and a few obscure ones,” Fagen said. “I did see ‘Dog Eat Dog’ and ‘The Second Arrangement.’ They weren’t really officially released Steely Dan things, but we’ll see.”
Right. Don & Walt are going to do 'Dog Eat Dog' like I'm going to put 93 octane in a rental car.
Here's the complete article:
http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/music/general/view/20090721reeling_in_the_years_countdown_to_ecstasy_begins_for_steely_dan_fans
Mark in Boston
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 12:41:30 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
Classic wisecracking interview. Also, the second time I've seen Donald quoted as wishing they could do TVN and EMG but conceding nobody would show up to hear them (I would). Now who's stuck in the 70s, the band or the audicence?
>Fagen: I don’t know if I agree with that. (Laughs). I think that the three that we chose, you can play those three all the way through without any major clinkers or songs that we don’t like for some particular reason. You know, the ones that I would do are our most recent two albums [“Two Against Nature’’ and “Everything Must Go’’]. I think they’re quality controlled all the way through. But I don’t think anybody would come - that’s the problem.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 10:26:31 ET
Posted by: 8, 405 of the Mind
Jack of speed pretty cool, and west of ho-wood tho'
I didn't dig TvN that much-- . some of EMG would be enjoyable change from Aja/Scam hits (though luv to hear Caves of Altamira done impeccably--Josie-jam played for an hour or so alright by me)--Green Room's an interesting number . Or Lunch with Gina--Fagen does an interesting solo on that. And maybe some Walt-muzak.... <i> play Lucky Henry mutha-f'ers</i>
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 08:50:41 ET
Posted by: Mer., Boston
wow- Green Day last night, Steely Dan on Sat.
ahh.. the dissonance.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 02:03:46 ET
Posted by: Luckless Pedestrian, USA
Open Question: Does anyone know which shows were sold out on The Rent Party Tour so far? I'm pretty sure they sold out Jacksonville/St. Augustine but were there any others? I'm just curious. Thanks in advance.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 01:05:35 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
angel, yes, they did AG that one time, have no idea what it sounded like...Negative Girl is a strange one, you know there are only 5 or 6 players on that song, besides supporting vocalists, so why not, huh? The answer is Vinnie's cymbals, all that shimmering, shimmering and a vibraphone player. What would Steely Dan sound like with Victor Feldman, the Allmans' percussionist and Vinnie?
ouch
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 00:55:13 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Almost Gothic (and Negative Girl) I don't think will ever be played, Donald has said there are, "too many layers," of sound or something like that, pity, they are the highlights of TvN.
Fire in the Hole has a great dissonant guitar solo coda at the break, I'd love to hear it, its music far outstrips its lyric but...naw, probably reaching too far back for them.
Daddy is played regularly but as sung by Walter, well, limited appeal there, I've turned this round in my head often but the fact remains he just doesn't possess the intonation necessary for a sparkling live vocal performance, I really don't think he'd disagree, he gets to sing a song now and then as a break for Donald. I've only heard hs reading of Gaucho live on UTube, it's not, it's a tough enough song anyway and pitch is everything so...
..
A real letdown was TvN's title cut live in Rome, there was something off, something awry in the rhythm section, I think the handclaps were missed maybe, piano mix wasn't right...something...
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 00:51:38 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
They played Blues Beach at Paso Robles in 2003. It was OK, but nothing to write home about.
Donald sang Almost Gothic just once, in Albuquerque, NM in 2000. He had problems with the high notes on that song and he never did it again. It's a real shame, cause I love that song.
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 00:22:02 ET
Posted by: Major Dame, Capital
I've heard SD's comments before about not playing songs that may be out-dated or that might not transfer well live. . . BUT
why can't we get
Blues Beach? -I know they played in 2000 I've never heard it live
or Fire in the Hole? - probably outdated for them
or Almost Gothic?
With a Gun?
Daddy Don't Live. .? - If they can play Bad Sneaker this would translate wouldn't it?
Okay conjecture please because these are
some of the songs I wish were on the list!
I just voted and was glad to see EMG, Major Dude, and Night X Night on the list!
Date: Tues, July 21, 2009, 00:19:55 ET
Posted by: fruitbat368, Cambridge, MA
To those who voted (and, in a couple of instances, voted HARD) for the upcoming Boston show (and who, I'm guessing, are not likely to be regular visitors to what is arguably the saddest, most-inward-looking message board I've ever stumbled across)...
I'm the obsessive a-hole that pushed "Parker's Band" and "Any Major Dude" out to the front of the vote pack from day one (June 6th, basically) and kept them there. I'm also the a-hole that managed to push "Home At Last" to a solid third-place ranking (while simultaneously maintaining comfortable leads for "Parker's" and "Dude") up until this past weekend, when I surrendered that third slot to the "Rikki" fan. Who was, in my opinion, the only other mofo that punched his voting weight over the past few weeks.
All told, it was well worth the dozens and dozens of hours I've invested over the past six weeks. Bottom line? I f**king win ... and that's true even if they ultimately decide to discard the final tallies.
It wasn't rigged, navel-gazing "Wu" fanatics. It was simply my insane dedication that carried the day. ANYBODY could have done it ... but, um, nobody else did. So please s**k on my dandom/fandom, old men. And "g'night and goodbye," BlueBook.
P.S. Sorry they shut it all down today, "Dirty Work." You were coming on ultra-strong and you caught my attention in a big, big, BIG way. I'd have loved to have seen where you would have ended up with another week at your disposal.
P.P.S. The last time I saw the band perform live, I farted in a manner that was notably audible. Based on previous posts to this website, I assume one or two of you heard this particular fart. More likely, you recorded it or wrote a poem about it. Therefore, I encourage you to spend the next ten days or so debating its musical merits relative to comparable farts you've heard and/or recorded at other Steely Dan shows. Because that's what you do, right? Yes, yes! Enjoy!
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 23:37:27 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
RW: When I saw the tour and went to the website for particulars, I was blown away by the in my face ballsiness of the party, the breadline, and of course the request nights. What else but a no nonsense approach to, say, pandering(?) from these guys who know I'll come (or Big Brother will) dragging 3 or 4 along to support the band. There are probably some other folks here that will come; come what may. Maybe it was those empty seats on foreign soil that caused some re-thinking.
Rajah: Understand that I am way over my head musically around here, but where would Warren Bernhardt fit in?
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 23:35:44 ET
Posted by: suedave, you just never know what the future will bring
http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2009/07/19/theres_no_scamming_steely_dan_fans/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Music+news
Sorry if this is a dup
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 23:35:00 ET
Posted by: read my lips, Best Damn Dan experience,
three words say it all
all we I can say is>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
SOBOBA! SOBOBA! SOBOBA!
It wuz Kismetically Kosmic..........
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 22:10:43 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Chris, you asked much, but when I went last night to research my book-cooking report, I checked Boston Rag rather than Dr. Wu when I was in the booth. As I recall, the Rag was about #15 in popularity. In support of my theory, the 19th ranked song was, you guessed it, Hey 19. The good Dr. is #7 or 8. We shall see what we shall see.
BTW, I always thought that song was about a variety of rolling paper that came fully or partially loaded, but I don't know beans about Boston.
On that same Boston Rag album there was a song that I listened to about 5 times thinking it was about, 'you polo your gold teeth/ do you see how they roll?'.
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 20:35:16 ET
Posted by: 8, 7-card table of the mind
Ah that time of the year: you know, SD, EL Lay, mez like, booze, bennies, fez--you belle du jour, car hop, Royal scam nite, OR mebbe aja break out the hardware letz do it raht
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 20:26:25 ET
Posted by: Al Dishwifge,
No new youtube SD band intros (7/09)?????????????????
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 18:34:52 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
Okay, that was good. Automatic upgrade to better seating for you!
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 18:32:18 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Wu -
What about the tribute to polo in Kid C: "Your polo rent friends are dead, yes life can be very strange." ;) (I had to put the dreaded emoticon lest someone think I was serious and chew me out.)
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 18:13:48 ET
Posted by: Steve, L.A.
The polo shirts in 2000 were the best.
Who needs another T-shirt? I'll pass.
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 18:10:00 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
I don't think Walter and Donald play polo, Hoops. They strike me more as bocce enthusiasts...
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 17:27:53 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Another year without polo shirts?
Biff: you may like endless, unnecessary and counter-persuasive insults and put downs. In fact, there's a forum where that's fine, although you have to register and I don't think most such types are brave enough to do so. On the other hand, many of us here got sick of that because people who has something intelligent and respectful to say--or better yet, those had some inside info on the Q.T.--won't post to the kind of board you describe. So we broke off and started a new board--this place--to get away from it--at our expense. It's actually not a free board. If you like nastiness because to you it's so passionate or whatever, Biff, go elsewhere. We didn't want to complain about that kind of place so we came here. Don't follow us.
Don't like it here--go elsewhere. End of story.
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 17:02:45 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Tour Merch is up for the Rent Party. Looking for my 5th Steely Dan keychain. :-)
As usual, a few laughs along the way...I love those guys.
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 16:36:40 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, Just popped out of the doghouse, as opposed to pooped in the doghouse...
Crikey! You tune out for only 1 day and whaddaya get?
- A private invite to an SD 2010 gig..in Boston(?) of all places
- Yet another mention from SD brother 'Dave' - yo' de man! (Sorry, me 'n' Dave aren't very good at the Stateside street talk/jargon; but does it make us any less Dan-freaky than everyone else? We know about Massapequa & Poughkeepsie for example, but never picked our feet there)
- Reuben...where are you dood?? (that's how dude is pronounced where me 'n' Dave grew up...on Steely Dan, just like most of you it seems)
PGE - finally someone who understands - a very gracious get-out-of-jail offer too, and no rain checks, ok??
Personally, I've got nothin' against any posters here; the point is as someone previously mentioned, we're ALL Daniacs, and anything that is written, even if it's a cutting blunt (phew, risked a typo there!) remark, a harsh & seemingly immature comment, I'm pretty sure that essentially it's still said with honest fervour and in defense of someone's true beliefs. And let's be honest, whatever is written can be very easily misconstrued/misread, depends how un-thick the reader's skin is.
Each night this past week I've been playing a different SD cd and in no chronological order. It's kinda therapeutic (as opposed to pure pathetic) and takes be back, pre-Perugia, to the halcyon days of Steely Dan. And like the Audi TT, and the good copper pans..it's only one of the things I miss the most.
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 16:18:21 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Ted Baker is a Broadway pit band leader with all the great energy and stamina, leadership, work ethic that it takes to pull off 8 shows a week on the Great White Way. Jeff Young is very R&B, strong, soaring tenor, a soulful keyboard style, some quirkiness, yes, but gives great brio and accent to any band. James Beard is a jazz pianist with obvious classical training back there somewhere, he's a thinking man's player, you know immediately it's him on record and this one time I saw him live in Rome the other week, he's very relaxed and quietly confident, you know you're in good hands. He helps Donald tremendously, everything's handled behind Donald, Beard reminds me of the Harvey Keitel in Pulp Fiction: he just comes in and fixes everything.
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 14:34:07 ET
Posted by: No Keychain for YOU,
The I Love All Access bit for the current Steely tour is a bust. That is, cancelled.
And I was waiting to pay $100s so I could have private time alone at the T-shirt stand and a cheap-ass keychain.
Anyone see the merch for this tour?
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 14:19:34 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Borgata
I don't see any mention of the I Love All Access packages...did they do away with them?
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 14:06:46 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
re: Young: Yeah, I always suspected he was used because he was a cost effective way to get another harmony in there/help Fagen when he had to drop out on a high note. But hey, did anyone notice that with Jeff on tour Fagen did all the Josie intros? In 00 and 03 it was Baker, and now it's Beard. Plus, I checked out a DF Band soundboard, and guess who makes the most audible mistakes? He's got timing issues left and right. It's not that he's a bad player, but he pales in comparison to the talent they've used in the past and are using now, and as a keyboard player seeing someone whose chops I can get off on is a big draw and ultimately the reason I broke down and paid $70 to sit in the back row of the back balcony.
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 13:31:51 ET
Posted by: Steely Dad, Boston
Oh Well
Voted this morning at 9
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 13:22:57 ET
Posted by: A Wu in, Whoville
Just noticed that the Boston poll is closed. Anybody check recently and know about how it turned out?
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 13:15:32 ET
Posted by: Steely Dad, Boston
Big week on Boston!!!!!
Made my investment for a Saturday in the big city
I need your help. Deacon has fell to 15. Close to the cut. Please make a LONGGG time DAN fan happy. Please vote for one of the best damn songs ever.
I know...go Wednesday night, too
THANKS
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 12:41:18 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
I speculate that it's more pragmatic than that. From my perspective, "Breadline Orchestra" is bad marketing even if it is also dry wit. Or maybe they had second thoughts that outsiders would perceive SD as not paying their players well. Or...none of the above.
If your fanbase, like everyone else, is more concerned about their financial stability and/or employment, it doesn't make sense to remind them of the economic troubles right before blowing a big wad of cash on the shows.
I've heard from more than a few fans who have hit a lot of shows in the past who simply are going to fewer shows or aren't going at all because of the economy and very high ticket prices.
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 12:27:31 ET
Posted by: RW, up
I see that all references to the breadline orchestra have been removed from the official site. Was it deemed not to be PC?
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 12:05:52 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
I'm all for passionate and involved debate--in fact this is what this place is all about. But when an anon comes on pushing their views with rampant insults and can't present their views without regular hostility and intimidation then the whole community suffers.
The several of you who contacted me in the past day or two know who I am talking about.
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 11:44:24 ET
Posted by: Dan Fan,
I was on the fence about Jim and Jeff until Jack "Some facts and some opinions" Webb made his last post.
Now I am 100% positive that the band is better with Jim Beard.
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 11:22:48 ET
Posted by: Jack Webb, Just The Facts Ma'am
Ladies and gentlemen: the story you are about to hear is true. Only the names have been changed to protect the innocent.
"there is no town that supports the boy's and girls in the numbers that boston has" - Freddie
Just the facts -
Blockbuster Pavilion Glen Helen, California Capacity – 65,000
Irvine Meadows Irvine California, Capacity - 16,000
The Hollywood Bowl Hollywood, California Capacity - 17,376
The Greek Theatre Los Angeles, California Capacity – 6,162
Universal Amphitheatre, Los Angeles, California Capacity – 6,189
Nokia Los Angeles, California Capacity – 7,100
"Someone asked earlier why there were only three shows in boston? Well this is a college town with one third the pop of NYC and that base is gone for the summer" - Freddie
Hold it a second, Frank just spilled his coffee on that one. The great Boston fanbase is based on kids up and down the eastern seaboard who were raised on FM radio. Much like the Chicago base.
They drive in all the way from places like New Hamp to see the show.
"I just broke down and bought tix for internet request night in Boston. I'm looking forward to it; worst case scenario is that it's just like 08 but with JIM FUCKIN BEARD instead of Jeff "Just Good Enough" Young" - Barry
Jeff Young was also hired because HE CAN SING. Jim Beard is a treat,
but songs like "Everything You Did" & "I Got The News" are a pale comparision without Jeff.
Frank & I are looking forward to the LA shows also, especially when
folks like Denny, Dean, Timothy or Jay might stop by.
Just the facts.....
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 10:09:48 ET
Posted by: dave from acquisitions, spare room
As the Biffster and myself are long time compadres and self-styled Dannistas, can I come too.......can I ........can I ??
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 07:56:55 ET
Posted by: Is there a doctor in the house, ready to go west in 2010?
After a few days of pondering and taking all things into consideration after the two Italy dates I had the privilege to attend, I have decided the following:
1) Seven European shows since 1996 but I want to hear Steely Dan live many more times
2) For maximum enjoyment Boston seem to be the place.
3) Gotta see the Beacon Theatre in New York.
So next tour (2010?) I'll be there and I invite Dakota Biff to meet me there.
Biff; I did sit a few rows closer to the stage in Perugia and had no problem with fellow concert goers talking and talking, but there was something missing that only a high energy audience can correct.
OK, Biff, Boston it is?
/PGE
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 05:28:13 ET
Posted by: dave from........etc, carnoustie
Klaus I'll see your Annie Lennox and raise you an Owen Wilson.
Biff that one was news to me, last time I spoke to Gregor in my previous career as Travis-alike cabbie he was composing incidental music for Balamory. (Cue much scratching of heads stateside).
Date: Mon, July 20, 2009, 01:26:59 ET
Posted by: DocMu, Who are Wu? Who Wu Who Wu
FWIW, Fuse TV is carrying Rent Part Tuesday at 4:30 EST.
http://www.fuse.tv/tvschedule/
MSG schedule is up on the SD URL
If Wu appears somewhere slap that puppy up on youtube faster than Bob's Your Uncle.
I prefer my Reubens on rye.
You know what's depressing?... the girl that Gary Puckett (with the Union Gap is pleading to in this saccharin song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn0ZJHVH17I
is probably nearly 60 years old today! ö
May or may not be their finest song, but Negative Girls is their finest (live) recording. Love the songs on EMG, but thought it would SOUND(scape) like NG
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 22:34:26 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Hoops, I'm inclined to agree. I'm a GREAT audience member :)
btw, can you all do me a favor? go to msg.com/steelydan and vote for boston rag? yeah yeah, i know, they're not going to look at the polls, etc etc ... don't care. there's always a chance. It'd be a crime not to play the Boston Rag in Boston when it has a chance of being on the setlist.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 21:21:42 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
Abravo from the legendary Raj/ I can die happy now.6 weeks and counting till I see our band. And yes the blue fans are indeed the best including my friend Dean the great Rajah and most of all our leader Hoops. lets not forget Dr Demented and Prov Rueben you guys do make it funn. Ive spent a lot of money and Ive spent a lot of time but the time on the blue is the best.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 21:19:07 ET
Posted by: Chan, Boston
Well said Fezzie. Looking forward to seeing you and everyone else this weekend.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 20:59:22 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Rajah:
Calling Boston the best audience isn't even going out on a limb. See SD there and anywhere else and it's as obvious as an elephant in your refrigerator.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 20:58:12 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
SS:
Please, email me privately -- click on my name and change the AT to @ and DOT to . of course.
Thanks.
Jim
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 20:34:19 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
The Demento Lamento is getting stale. Dude, you weren't the first to try write the handbook on 'appropriate' posting. Fact is, you can't choose the people who end up in this forum.
The Dean is nothing if not resilient, to your frustration. Good luck, eh.
Frankly, I'm pro Reuben. Ramble away buddy. I get something from the way your thoughts tumble across the keyboard.
I'm quite sure we don't live under the threat that one day we'll all begin to post like Provincial Reuben. But I chuckle to think about it.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 20:31:23 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" So given that, I really have to ponder now and then, why no "Deacon" in recent years? Why no "Dr Wu" for that matter? A few other songs. I have no idea whatsoever and it's more projection than fact on my part, but sometimes I wonder if Donald Fagen just gets sick of singing about sleazy characters. Or maybe these songs remind him of someone he doesn't like. Like I said, strictly speculation, a fever dream, like most of what is written here at the BlueBook. "
Again , if Donald does not want to sing " Dr. Wu " then there is no reason in the friggin world why Walt can not take a turn at the vocals on this tune . He is just as much Steely Dan as is our beloved Don . Word .
JACKY !
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 19:06:40 ET
Posted by: Rajah, pandering to be clever?
Bravo Klaus.
Boston the best Steely Dan audience? I bow to your informed opinion, Hoops, you rarely go out on a limb like that, being the very diplomatic person you surely are.
But the best Steely Dan FANS are certainly to be found right here on this field of Blue, blemishes and all.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 18:48:18 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Boston is the best Steely Dan audience. Period.
D + W feed off of that and put on some of the best damn shows there as a result.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 16:44:57 ET
Posted by: Fezman, boston
A point to ponder,I have had the priviledge of attending shows in Boston (many} and nyc,one. In my opinion the venue has alot to do with the experience.The one show i attended at the Beacon last year was amazing for the venue,3000 cap.if that.If you have attended shows in the boston area you know that Mansfield was at least a 10,000 capacity and the Bank boston Pavillion is 6 or 7 thousand capacity.I believe the Wang is 3500-4000.there is no town that supports the boy's and girls in the numbers that boston has.This is just my opinion and i am not looking for arguments.The NYC shows are Fantastic,but most of those who have attended both will tell you the fan experience is different,not better!!As usual NYC and Boston have a heated but friendly battle regarding ANYTHING !!!!!!...I love NY,but will always be a Boston Fan.Someone asked earlier why there were only three shows in boston? Well this is a college town with one third the pop.of NYC and that base is gone for the summer.The one thing i know for sure is that the Boston shows will be the catalyst for a great run at the Beacon.And We WIll WU BEFORE YOU!!!! love to all our NYC brothers and sisters.....Fezzie
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 16:16:10 ET
Posted by: Young Wu,
Wow...Dr Demento is a jackass.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 15:57:18 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Phearcreative -- Kudos for getting interesting and funny answers out of Don and Walt for that special .. and even getting some "new" answer (hadn't heard that Cameron Crowe story before).
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 14:53:30 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
Right on Dean/ This forum thanks to Hoops is a great place to visit for a Dan Fan' often interesting and informative. But lately I am at a loss w/ all the bullshit. I think some are trying to impress with the dazzling satire/ give it and us a rest. I guess there is no way to stifle all the crap but cmon you guys we all have something in common or we would not be here. Learn to work the sax and play all nite long. This music is what bonds us as Daniacs/ its all about the music or should be. It is absoulute ok to disagree about this or that but this schoolgirl shit should stop/I dont know sometimes why Hoops doesnt say screw it. I m glad he hangs in. The closer it gets to a show I find out things that are helpful and I have met some good people at danfests and/or the shows who are blue regs and good folks. Its true i am just a blue collar guy and not a harvard grad but i am a fairly bright 50 year old man who loves the music of Steely Dan and enjoy the company of those of our kind even Rueben and dr demented.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 14:46:51 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
Your latest flight of fancy makes my point, Demented. I have never met The Dean, nor you. Since ad hominem attacks seem to be the only thing you have to contribute, please forgive me for ignoring your verbal diarrhea in the future. So long, sucker.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 13:47:29 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
My "problem" is the posters on this forum -- you're not the only one -- who seem to have an emotional need to turn every post into a personal attack on someone they disagree with. It's unnecessary, and childish. I personally had no problem with The Dean's comments about the venue as he remembered it, and it DID relate dangentially to the topic of crowd behavior at recent SD concerts. As is often stated here, Danfans are a cut above the average concert-goer, and I would like to see the discussion elevated to a level that reflects that.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 13:09:22 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Check.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 12:50:04 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
What's your problem, Demento? (A well-chosen handle, I might add...)
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 12:04:39 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Stay classy, Dr. D
You might want to work on improving your reading comprehension, though.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 10:29:22 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
phearcreative,
4 hours? Impressive that you got Walt and Don to spend 4 hours doing promotion. Based on the 10 or so minutes I caught, it looks like you make the most of their time. Well done. Can you tell us if/when it will be repeated? Any non-MSG (Fuse for example) times would be appreciated, as well.
Jaydee, I agree it's hard to have a "perfect" crowd. One can't expect everyone to share the same level of excitement to be there, reverence for the music and respect for your fellow concert attendees comfort and listening pleasure. That's one of the reasons I really can't complain about the St Augustine crowd. While there was some rudeness (unfortunately right next to me) most of the "troublesome" behavior was due to excitement to see the band. It's hard to get in the way of something that pure, IMO.
What I found particularly interesting, was your discussion of Ronnie Scott's audiences. I have always wanted to be there for some great jazz, or maybe a Van Morrison performance. Anyway, the audience make up you describe, is getting harder and harder to find, it seems. Dan Lynch's used to be a blues club in NYC (2nd Ave near 13th, if I recall correctly) that had a very interesting mix in the clientele. You could be sitting/standing next to a suited businessman/politician/athlete on one side and a hooker/pimp/hippie/musician on the other. For years there was no cover (they passed a hat most of the time, I think). The place had a great vibe. (I'm guessing they had some occasional trouble (maybe more) but I never saw it.) One of the reasons the crowd was so good, I think, is that people were there to hear the music. It wasn't a trendy place to be seen, the bums in the crowd could drink cheaper elsewhere. There was one reason to go to Lynch's: it was a great club with (usually) terrific music. I'm sure there are places that still have that kind of feel, but they grow scarcer, I fear.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 09:41:16 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
Hey Dave/ I see your Carrie Fischer and raise a Annie Lennox. I read a interview w/ her and she said she had Rikki on her Ipod because she thought it the most beautiful perfect song she ever heard.
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 09:32:32 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, In the doghouse
Dave from Acquisitions: you might as well fold. The winning, famous Dan Fan hand here has got to be: Mr Gregor Philp. Local lad, personal friend, and now resident guitarist with the appropriately named and internationally famous 'Deacon Blue'. You can't get any fanner than that.
Still feeling like Lu Chang's brother to some extent..
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 09:06:04 ET
Posted by: dave from .......... etc, scatland
Someone mentioned earlier alist of Dan fans
I'llsee your Rick Moranis and raise you a Carrie Fisher
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 08:49:03 ET
Posted by: phearcreative, NYC
I just wanted to thank all of you who checked out the Steely Dan TV special we put together for MSG. We only had about 4 hours with the guys and we're pretty happy with what we got in that time. Donald and Walter were very gracious and seeing them rehearse was a great musical memory for sure. I look forward to seeing my fist SD show in a couple of weeks at the Beacon. That's all for now. Again, thanks for the support.
-Bryan
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 07:47:46 ET
Posted by: Dakota Biff, Florence
Hoops - thanks for coming back and underlining that you're dismay was more at not understanding those more oblique posts, even though they were intrinsically linked to SD, for the most part.
In direct reply to your surprise, I wrote 'all that' (which really isn't that much at all), for the simple reason that I have been and still am an SD fan, since first hearing "Rikki.." back in the mid 70's. If you are able to understand anything at all of the sheer disappointment, and I'd venture even sadness, that I felt after last week's audience atrocities, then you might see that my extended repost was a passionate plea of sorts. It would have been wrong of me, and knowing myself probably impossible, to have written only a few throw away lines about a subject(s) which I am angry/fervent about. I expect though, that no amount of banging-on about it will ever suffice: you'd need to have been there. Lucky you that you can rattle off US venues & places to see SD with such ease - kinda rubs salt in the (still open) wounds. Oh, and thanks for the typo re my user name - Dakota Biff! I like it, in fact it's who I am from now on - there were too many doctors here anyway.
Jaydee: good post re audience behaviour, very nicely put.. and re the good beer at £3 a pint, that was yet another thing missing last week: at the gig venue it was €4 for just less than a pint, and it was pretty insipid stuff.
Last gig I can remember 'moving hurriedly' towards the stage was 'TRi - An Interactive Evening with Todd Rundgren', Manchester Academy, 1994. It wasn't even a stage, it was a pod-like structure in the centre of the seat-less hall, which Todd performed inside and as he openly invited people to circle the pod and get involved, who was I to say no??
Date: Sun, July 19, 2009, 04:59:28 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Re audience / crowd behaviour (hardly 'off-topic' surely, while SD is a live touring entity) - as someone said, audience interaction can be a huge part of the 'live' experience, both influencing the band's performance, and either enhancing or detracting from each individual attendee's enjoyment of the whole show. The dichotomy between those who want to stand up and get down, and those, inevitably behind them, who just want to be able to actually get a view of the band is probably as old as theatre itself ('I paid six obols to see the chorus of frogs, not your butt, buddy') and, in my experience, is only ever resolved by enlightened venues that allow the over-enthused to move from the confines of their allocated seats, to do their thing upfront or in the aisles. London 09 got the balance between reverence and revelry about right, I think, but that was just from where I was sitting in row Z of the circle, and even I was mildly irritated by someone behind me who curiously bellowed 'Nightfly' at intervals.
'Perfect' audiences are hard to find - Ronnie Scott's in London used to be good, when Ronnie let musos in cheaply to mingle with the expenses crowd, but went this week after a long gap, and the new management are clearly not that way inclined. Best I can recommend (for anyone in west London) is sunday jazz night at the Boaters riverside pub in Kingston - free entry, good beer at £3 a pint, and an audience who chats quietly and knows when to clap. Tonight we have Mark Nightingale, our premier trombonist (depped for Jim Pugh at SD's 2007 UK gigs) and on drums the superb Ian Thomas who is on the DVD-released Clapton/Winwood 2008 MSG gig.
As for Dr Demento's challenge to provide any tangible evidence of Carlock's mastery of the Purdie shuffle - well, nothing on disc immediately comes to mind, I'm afraid, so I can only cite my memory of the Hammersmith gig, when his hypnotic 'shuppety shuppety shuppety' groove on Babylon Sisters underpinned the song with no less surety than Purdie himself on the Gaucho original. I would however find it hard to argue with Dr D's view that KC is the Herington of drums - whether or not that is a positive or negative assertion. And, for anyone interested in seeing the man himself demonstrating the thing, it is of course on youtube :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puEVs4g6qyk&NR=1
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 23:18:14 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, At least AC/DC will come to Buffalo! Woo!
Hoops... nice post about Deacon Blues. I always rank Aja as the most sublime Steely song (im my humble opinion), but Deacon Blues or any of the other few you mentioned works too.
Hoops, I'm serious, you should write a book about all your Steely Dan experiences with the Dan-fest and the bluebook and all other things dandom. It would be an awesome look into the life and journey of a die hard Dan Fan. Hell, I would buy it!
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 23:12:38 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
I sit chastised and corrected. I will encourage everyone I know to try to certainly kick free associative blather to the curb with some enthusiasm.
In the next couple of months there are 'internet request' shows scheduled. I wonder if there is a mechanism by which a ticket-holder or other interested party might see how requests are shaping the potential setlists.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 20:33:56 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Rajah: I've been pretty much saying most all of what you said for the past 20-30 years, about SD and LA. Except, D + W may have been New Yorkers in L.A. but reports here and in the Dandom Digest has Walter himself saying on multiple occassions that playing L.A. is a sort of homecoming. I think D + W would say it's pretty much their other fav town. That's the gist of my original post. The only "put down" in my post this morning--if it was one--was that a lot of people tell me Chicago is such a great town for Steely Fans...I don't agree so much. NYC, Boston, LA, SanFran...those are the best SD towns...of all my travels as the facts unravel I have found this to be true.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 20:13:06 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Keeping it focused on Steely Dan is the only way this place works.
Hoops, you may not be an LA guy and Don & Walt certainly are not LA guys but there can be no doubt that Steely Dan will always reign as one of the most astute observers of Los Angeles as it was in the 70s. Arguably the greatest LA band ever. They were the chronicle of that era, nobody did it better. And although they haven't lived there for decades, we still hear vestiges of things Angeleno in their musical messages.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 20:08:23 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Dakota Biff
My point isn't even that its off or on topic. I'm simply saying I can't even follow it. Period. That said, I have to say with loving kindness that I can't see how you managed to write all that based on the fact I can't follow the posts I was commenting on. The posts I am commenting on are too oblique for me to understand.
That's it!
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 19:42:15 ET
Posted by: Dokta Biff, Florence
Hoops: I can see why recent posts might seem irritating and maybe only vaguely SD related, but at least on my part it all started out for very valid reasons, and my post-gig feelings were something you also touched on towards the end of your own post today: seeing SD on their own territory. I'd waited patiently for many, many years to see SD live, then having the evening 'ruined' by Italian audience ignorance/buffoonery was a colossal & infuriating disappointment on many levels. Subsequently, my own posts were bitter and (only slightly) scathing, and I also referred to SD staying away and performing only where they're recognised and known, musically and especially, lyrically. I'd willingly pay the extra next time around, if I have to travel to see them - I swear that if they come back to Italy, I won't be present at the gig. I have friends who were at the recent London & Edinburgh shows: you can't begin to imagine how I envy them, whereas I had to sit amongst the chattering classes, who got ever more audibly bored as the night went on. The overall behaviour was nothing less than disgraceful and I do think it affected the band's input & interest, and consequently my own opinions about the performance.
That said, isn't it normal that tangents are gone off on a little, as long as they remain tenuously linked and refer to SD in some way? I admit fully that posting here gave me an opportunity to let of a lot of necessary, post-gig steam, and to be honest I was pleasantly surprised to see that at least 2 other posters 'got my drift'.. and it snowballed from there.
My original intention here was to exchange & read thoughts, ideas & opinions about SD, but noted fairly early on that several posts were oblique, to say the least. So I got caught up in the camaraderie & occasional light-hearted mud slinging: show me a forum where that doesn't happen..
Who knows how different my posts might have been, had I seen SD at another venue: NYC or LA, or pretty much anywhere in the US or UK would have been that slice of lime pie you mentioned (personally, I'd probably go for strawberry cheescake).
And now that the European leg of the tour is coming to a close, won't certain reviewing posters fade out until next time anyway, giving us all less to trawl though?? And if set lists remain almost identical and band performances remain 'flawless', aren't we going to soon run out of superlatives to describe the gigs? Much of SD's music and the understanding thereof, is difficult to put into words anyway - it's a vibe, a feeling, a sensation, something that touches & moves you in a way which is beyond words. I for one will never forget being robbed of those emotions last week in Perugia, but will hang in there staunchly until the opportunity comes round again, on American or British soil.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 17:54:10 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Deano,
Well slap this "Salt Water Cowboy"!
Sorry fo the omission. I do recall
your report now. I'll take an unruly
crowd over a sedate crowd any day.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 17:40:07 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
Chris,
I am with you, not extatic about the setlist but broke down when a 5th row stage left seat became available in LV, for $ 225.
Will make it back on the floor there. Right.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 17:32:38 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
I told myself I'd sit this one out, but ... I just broke down and bought tix for internet request night in Boston. I'm looking forward to it; worst case scenario is that it's just like 08 but with JIM FUCKIN BEARD instead of Jeff "Just Good Enough" Young.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 17:24:14 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour
Ray,
I think you missed St Augustine in your list of crowds that energized the band. The crowd was off the hook...actually to the point of distraction to some of us, but not because they were indifferent, but because they were SO excited and into it. It was by a large margin, the most appreciative crowd I have ever seen for Steely Dan, and perhaps for any artist.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 16:47:21 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu - Were Having A Heat Wave, Tropical....
hoops,
I think D&W and Band REALLY feed
off a great crowd. I've had the
good fortune to witness it a
number of times in Chicago at Poplar
Creek, Roseland, San Jacinto, Universal,
San Diego Bayside & believe it or not
last year in downtown LA, where they
played "Gaucho" in it's entirety sans,
"My Rival" to an adoring crowd.
From all reports it sounds like the
Alabama & London crowds have been the
only two places that truly energized
the band so far this year. London
has an amazing track record for it's
love of Steely Dan. Dating all the
way back to 1974! And again they
were rewarded with Elliot and Donald
gesturing with his arms while he sang,
just like it was 1974 all over again
this year. I would have loved to see
the shows in both London & Alabama this
year.
Any thoughts on why Boston fans are
only getting 3 shows during this
ground beaking leg of the tour?
PS - Summer will BE back your way.
You can have our heat, let's hope
the jet stream sends it your way ;O)
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 16:08:34 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
"droning on about God knows what."
I couldn't agree more Klaus.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 12:55:17 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
Hoops, I'm with you all the way on Deacon Blues. A wonderfully constructed piece of work! Your mention of Your Gold Teeth reminded me of one of my "fever dreams" -- a medley of YGT segueing into YGT2. Also couldn't agree more about some of the ridiculously arcane posts of late. There's a lot to be said for coherence.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 12:13:30 ET
Posted by: Wendy, -
I would love to hear Deacon too. It's kind of the bookend to Dirty Work if you think about its lyrics.
Here's my question. How are they going to get around playing Rikki? They haven't played that live since 1996. It doesn't sound like they have rehearsed it. And it's their biggest hit ever. All the greatest hits fans are going to want to hear it.
With the demise of record stores, I miss being able to go a store and find anything more than greatest hits collections.
By the way, has anyone noticed that the Steely Dan Ultimate Collection is being switched from jewel case to that ecopak? I'm talking about the USA hits collection that came out in 2006. Ecopak is a SCAM and is hardly ecological. It's not like a cereal box where I throw away the packaging after I'm done. I want to keep it for the rest of my life and the Ecopak breaks down in a couple of years. Then you have to replace it. That's not ecological. The packs are probably just cheap to make.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 11:46:17 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
I'm with you Klaus &...: I can't even figure out what they are talking about. I don't think we have to be so rigid that everything has to be directly related to Steely Dan, but more than a few of the posts of recent days have been umpenetrable. Get too inside and you pretty much lose everyone. I know, just scroll by the posts I don't get into, but frankly I've been scrolling by most of 'em in the past week, there are more buzz killers and it's hard to find the posts that build my excitement for the hundreds of dollars I'm spending--but shouldn't-- on Steely Dan in the next month or so.
That said, I'm glad that Denise brought up "Deacon Blues". It used to be a staple in the 1990s and through something like 2003. I love to talk--no, gush--about that song.
I think "Deacon Blues" is Steely Dan's most sublime song. It's a perfect 6 out of 5. While "Bad Sneakers", "Dr. Wu", "Gold Teeth II" are among my favs, "Deacon Blues" is such a perfect song, it's glorified in a certain spiritual-artistic sense. It's so great I forget that it's even Steely Dan. It's like like perfect sex or an amazing piece of key lime pie with the right balance of sweet and tart and fluffy-not-too-sweet meringue. I could go on and on.
So given that, I really have to ponder now and then, why no "Deacon" in recent years? Why no "Dr Wu" for that matter? A few other songs. I have no idea whatsoever and it's more projection than fact on my part, but sometimes I wonder if Donald Fagen just gets sick of singing about sleazy characters. Or maybe these songs remind him of someone he doesn't like. Like I said, strictly speculation, a fever dream, like most of what is written here at the BlueBook.
I'm sad that I won't be able to attend the Boston shows. Between timing, family commitments and money, I can't do it. Boston has the best audience hands down--way better than NYC. I hear people say they have to see SD in their two home towns--NYC and LA. But I'm not an LA person. I hear fans say they love to SD in Chicago and I've seem some great SD shows here but really, Boston has the best audience and NYC has the best setting. If you are going to travel to SD, anywhere along the Bos-Wash are where to see them, as far as I am concerned.
Jim
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 10:29:06 ET
Posted by: bassicinstinct, Nottingham UK
Denise:
You're most welcome.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 10:27:08 ET
Posted by: Denise, H
Bassicinstinct, thanks very much. I just love that song. It's perfect.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 10:07:01 ET
Posted by: bassicinstinct, Nottingham UK
Denise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5RQ4ePBlaM
Enjoy!!
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 08:46:09 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Klaus: I've been there too, and the neighbors and police assure me that I'm way over-exposed. I'm sure we'll need several beers in Memphis. Thanks.
I wish there was this mountain of data or some url's or something about the progress of this 'taking it to the seats' gig we got going now in a place(s) other than Boston.
Sorry if the Fagenacity is over come by this Beckeradoccio.
Yum. How about a nice breakfast of Becker n eggs; juice and milk; and Fagen toast?
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 08:28:26 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
Cant make heads or tails out of half the posts lately' jeez can we get back to Steely Dan? How about a list of Dan fans. Ill start out w/ Moranis the actor in those kid shows [honey i shrunk the kids]. Barring that; perhaps we could discuss the merits of outdoor sheds v/the indoor places of late. Anything but prov Rueben droning on about God knows what. I am sure I will get hammered for this post but Ill bet I am not the only one tired of the current state of affairs. Come on you guys Danfans are a notch above in the brains dept' but you dont have to wear it on your sleeve. p.s. I will buy you a beer Rueben if I run into you at one of the remaining shows/ no hard feelings. Any friend of Don and Walt is a friend of mine.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 07:56:55 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
Looking forward to Aja night on Wednesday in Boston. Don't recall having heard Deacon Blues live before: this will be a treat. Have they played it at all in recent years?
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 04:51:07 ET
Posted by: Dokta Biff, Florence
Hey 'Reuby baby'...damn! ..that IGY-bellowing airhead from Perugia is still haunting me..
Re your SD cocktails - what the fagen hell have you been drinking? Slow down you silly becker!! (OK, enough already: Ed.)
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 04:25:42 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Here's to your health(?): Sloe Fagen Fizz or Flaming Beckerdi Punch.
Date: Sat, July 18, 2009, 03:30:52 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
Beckerood and Fageneered
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 23:52:29 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Oh, man. That was some of the best 90 minutes of basic cable there ever saw, and I'm not just Beckering in some Fagenical Dantom. My 14 year old has been pointing to this day for about 3 months; first because it's his Mom's birthday; and then because of a combination of some of his favorite television shows. Nine stars hi in jinx!
If you're not holding a script for 'Blazing Saddles,' is there any other way to read Nietzsche?
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 23:15:20 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Reading Nietzsche...seriously
"Wizards on Deck With Hannah Montana?! Gotta go!"
Is that a concert? And why are you excited for it?
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 20:02:45 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County Ar
C'mon Joey: Gaucho will have to come up at least 4X soon, and HatWW is up for erection.
Price Waterhouse; How are those tallies in Chi, LA, and NYC comming?
Wizards on Deck With Hannah Montana?! Gotta go!
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 19:52:32 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Ahh, Dokta, reaching for the Holy Grail. Wouldn't it be Beckerrific (in a Fagenetic Way) to alchemize the cure for cranial rectumosis that has no contraindickations.
Of course if it's caused by ferrous hyperdanphagia...
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 19:42:54 ET
Posted by: ospertov,
Time for dr demental to get off. A slave by any other name still continues to mint slander in the same old tired way.
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 17:43:12 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" It was looking good with western world and gaucho including Donald's vocal in there.What happened???? "
Are those two selections now available on YouTube ?!
J.
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 16:56:34 ET
Posted by: Dokta Biff, Florence
yeah, that drum shuffle thing seems to create monumental disagreements about how difficult/easy it is. There are plenty of drummers out there who could breeze it, so let's not all get so heated up about Bernard Purdie just because he himself famously refers to it as the 'Purdie shuffle', suggesting it's his & his only and no-one else can nail it.
Does anyone remember Mark Craney for example? The late Jeff Porcaro was also mentioned by a previous poster, as was Antonio Sanchez. But these are/were known names, how many times have you been to a gig, maybe even by a local band, and one or all players in the band have left you stumped for words? If you say 'none', then you're not getting out enough. The world is crammed with incredible talent, you just don't always stumble upon it, and those players themselves don't always reach their deserved musical heights and recognition, for a number of unfair or tragic reasons. So too often we end up with mediocre players the public eye, through the fame of the headlining artist whose supposed talent somehow renders them 'great' as well. I'm a Steely Dan fan, not a Steely Dan sycophant. It's time more heads were extracted from heavily blinkered asses.
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 16:39:26 ET
Posted by: If only Buddy Rich, were still alive
Stop the drumming inanity - I want to get off.
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 16:17:03 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island
JT's got some songs that definitely call for a good "feel" drummer. "A Little More Time With You" (if I'm remembering the name correctly) has the shuffle beat everyone get's worked up about. Don't know if that tune's in the current setlist or not. Carlos Vega was such a great feel drummer who could nail that shuffle to pieces! Vega would've been a great choice for SD!
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 15:47:24 ET
Posted by: Biff MD, Florence
DR Demento - what I meant was that with JT's material, he could have gotten away with Ringo Starr on drums. His superstar status (JT's, not Ringo's) means he might call the shots re who he wants and/or who's available for a tour, or indeed who might jump at the chance to play with JT or who simply need the money. But that same status doesn't mean (in my book) that he's any good: it just means he's accessible to more millions than SD will ever be, let's say from teenagers to grandparents via ageing hippies. Broader spectrum of fans = more airplay = more records sold = more bums on seats. But that doesn't equal quality songwriting, musically, lyrically or otherwise. In short, I'd rather see Steve Gadd playing B&F stuff than JT's, and any number of guitarists could have replaced Jon Herington.
And when I heard JT's line up mentioned, I thought shit - SD might have been a more memorable gig with these guys on board.
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 12:36:58 ET
Posted by: Dokta Biff, Upstairs
hmmm...those last ones almost sound official, in an English language add on/suffixian way. The band line up would be completed then as:
Carlockian
Washingtonian
Stammering
Pughish
Pendarisian
Ageean
Other backing vocalist whose names slips me at the momentesque
Beardy
And lets not forget the simpletons who rushed the stage: just shove the suffix 'less' onto the end of any word of your choice! My current favourites are 'brain' & 'clue'
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 12:23:33 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Fagenesque
Beckerian
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 12:21:24 ET
Posted by: ZA, ZA
Fagensian.
Beckeresque.
Weiskopfish.
Heringtonian.
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 11:52:53 ET
Posted by: Biff MD, Florence
Ok, I've got it:
If Fagen's work becomes Fagenesque, then Becker's must be....
...Wa(l)tery??
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 11:30:57 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, San Francisco
"that said the SD backing singers where great, also seemed to be enjoying themselves .looked sexy, danced the night away and I think my eyes were glued to them most of night."
Moondog, you are a dog, LIKE ME.
I love the backing trio that SD has put together, not just their singing but their sexiness.
I have to say, that Leonhart lady is soooo sexy and I'm not really into that type of woman. But their is something about her that drives me wild.
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 11:30:05 ET
Posted by: Biff MD, Florence
Have seen the Keith Jarrett trio 3 times, best by far was some years back in Milan. Was a 'victim' of his pre-performance outburst last year in Perugia; same venue SD played last week, but after Jarrett's no-nonsense, I'll-have-your-guts-for-garters opening gambit and accusatory finger jabbing at everyone in particular, the strategically placed but mentally challenged stage rushers (I swear I saw one of them lacing up his Nikes in preparation before Jarrett's hissy fit was even heard by those in the cheap seats) most of them stopped in mid-lace up and thought twice - some even quietly slipped off their running shoes and discreetly eased them back into their impossibly large sports bags (what are they doing at a Jarrett gig? Or any gig?) and switched to their dangerously long, pointy, patent crocodile look-how-fashionable-yet-distinctively-different-I-am jester's shoes...which of course hundreds and hundreds of other bandwagon bozos were wearing. I digress.
Jarrett's grunting was overbearing that night though (he's sitting down now) and was way louder than anything else: his own playing, DeJohnette's new-symbol-for-Xmas thrashing, and Peacock's shirt. Tell you what though, Jarrett's verbal volley worked: not a whisper was heard, not a hand signal was seen, not even a muffled fart was risked. He instilled terror into the audience, and my thinking now is that maybe SD can hire Jarrett as their MC to open future gigs? It would stop the running gimps in their tracks, and as a bonus Keith could budge up next to DF when he's not in a huff, the band could all put down their instruments and gather round the piano for a good old sing/grunt-a-long, thanking the lord that they're up there, and we're down here....
...what the hell was that all about??
Seems like James Taylor and SD got their line-ups confused: Gadd, Landau & Co, performing 'Fire & Rain' & 'You've Got a Friend?? BTW, noticed that Keith Carlock is getting some slating here as well: saw him about 9 years ago playing with the Wayne Krantz trio in a small club venue (not in Italy), and he was pretty spectacular.
PS - if other artists music & lyrics can be referred to as Fagenesque, what does Becker's become? Beckerish? Beckerlike? Beckeruedian??
PPS - check out Steve Lukather's 'Stab In The Back' tribute track to SD. Pretty Dan-like in some ways, with a lick of Lukather guitar
thrown in.
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 10:58:04 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Fife,
I also thought the BBC interviewer was terrible...but he did elicit some decent answers from the boys. Or maybe they were going to give those answers no matter what questions were asked. :#)
I have noticed that in some past interviews with Don and Walt, as well. Sometimes the seemingly worst interviews get their best responses. Go figure.
In a way, it reminds me of David Letterman many, many years ago. Some of his best stuff came with the worst (least interesting or cooperative) guests. Dunno if that's still true, as I really don't watch his show anymore.
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 10:27:10 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, eh
I wasn't going to post anything about the BBC broadcast but after reading the previous post I just feel the need to rant just a bit:
What a boring interview the guy wasn't capable of coming up with something new,just the same shit I've read or heard many times. I thought the boys were actually quite gracious and funny, I guess Maconie didn't get it.
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 09:46:10 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Jarrett is simply a fantastic player. As a human being he leaves something to be desired, but if I have to be completely silent and leave the camera at home to see him play, I will do that.
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 09:15:43 ET
Posted by: Spiderkingdemon, Yurp
Never interview your heroes. Stuart Maconie who interviewed Walter and Donald for BBCRadio2 also writes a weekly music column and although he doesn't mention them by name there's no doubt who he's talking about. He said at least one of the interviewees was like his music, dark sardonic and aloof and then said he was quote A smart-arsed pillock with a disdain and boredom for the sorry business of promoting his records.
My moneys on Becker.
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 09:15:30 ET
Posted by: Spiderkingdemon, Yurp
Never interview your heroes. Stuart Maconie who interviewed Walter and Donald for BBCRadio2 also writes a weekly music column and although he doesn't mention them by name there's no doubt who he's talking about. He said at least one of the interviewees was like his music, dark sardonic and aloof and then said he was quote A smart-arsed pillock with a disdain and boredom for the sorry business of promoting his records.
My moneys on Becker.
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 06:22:38 ET
Posted by: K, J
I assume there were no assholes with cameras at the Jarret show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB9mMABRM0c&NR=1
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 05:58:11 ET
Posted by: Moondog, Piazzola sul Brenta, Padova, Italy
Tonight in our little town, after such luminaries as Steely Dan last week and James Taylor two days ago..we have the the mighty, the one and only , the originators, the creators....MOTORHEAD !!!!!
should be an interesting night in the Piazza..
Date: Fri, July 17, 2009, 03:21:16 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Keith Jarrett pulled no tantrums in Mantova last night, playing two 35 minute sets and two encores in front of a very respectful house out in the courtyard of the Palazzo Te. They Can't Take That Away from Me, I've Got a Crush on You were great. Frank would have approved. Gary Peacock, Jack DeJohnette and Jarrett were all part of one being.
The crowd was silent the whole night, nary a squirm, a tough thing to do for Italians, their performance matched and surpassed what Jarrett expects and probably deserves. He was very complimentary to them and gave them a small toast.
At his best, Jarrett takes the listener away into his own meditative state, he allows you to explore as you listen. He might be a very difficult person but his trio is something not to be missed.
Date: Thurs, July 16, 2009, 22:00:53 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Moondog: Good to know that even after this time you have those fond memories of something to wish for besides recording equipment circa lei cama.
Date: Thurs, July 16, 2009, 16:39:02 ET
Posted by: Moondog, Piazzola,Padova,Italy
Dottor Demenzio...
although I don't totally agree with you ..having seen two back to back performances of "highly rated" musicianship and have thus some sort of hypothetical frame of reference.. .I do get your point...
The SD performance here last week, felt like, sounded like, seemed like listening to a CD performed..well..live..it sounded like a CD..
On the other hand JT felt , sounded like a live show..which is effectively what they both were. but there seemed more looseness to JT's band and performance..they also seemed to be enjoying themselves a lot more..
that said the SD backing singers where great, also seemed to be enjoying themselves .looked sexy, danced the night away and I think my eyes were glued to them most of night..
Date: Thurs, July 16, 2009, 16:24:39 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
So Sparkle, would YOU be kind enough to share the links to the various request locales as, outside of Boston, the research to support a theory I (and evidently Mr. Hansen, too) have got cooking about this request book cooking is going kinda slow.
Date: Thurs, July 16, 2009, 13:36:27 ET
Posted by: steelyfez, CT-NYC
Just scored 14th row center tickets for the July 25th Boston Internet request show for face value and that silly service charge on Telecharge. I looked last night and they only had balcony available. The last four or five years I have been waiting till under two weeks before the show to purchase my tickets, its been working well.
On another note I did my voting and more than once I might add. Hard to believe
Parkers Band is getting the most votes. I voted for Your Gold Teeth but won't hold my breath on that one. I would love to hear Dr. Wu also. Hey a night out seeing my favorite band is great so I cannot complain.
Date: Thurs, July 16, 2009, 12:57:48 ET
Posted by: Moondog, Piazzola,Padova,Italy
James Taylor rolled into our little town yesterday exactly a week after Steely Dan..
I attended the soundcheck in the afternoon and thought "hey these guys sound good"..
Managed to speak to Steve Gadd who was very approachable, spoke about Carlock and how much he respects him, some kids even turned up with a snare drum and he signed that for them.
The gig was great, Gadd and Jimmy Johnson on bass were rock solid all evening, the backing singers very well drilled and I especially liked Andrea Zonn who also played violin adding some Nashville to the proceedings. Larry Goldings piano and hammond organ playing was sublime and the great Mike Landau on guitar was amazing especially on slide. James..well James was well into this gig, he was funny, irreverent, charismatic and professional, his singing and playing were out of this world...you know what? dare I say it..I think i enjoyed this gig more than SD last week. These guys seemed relaxed, enjoying themselves, almost improvising, In comparison SD , although fantisc to hear and see ( they didn't miss a beat) seemed like they were "just doing ma job ma'am" kind od attitude. Professional yes..but maybe just a tad too much...
Date: Thurs, July 16, 2009, 09:31:41 ET
Posted by: Sparkle of your China, On Stby
Never mind...found it
Date: Thurs, July 16, 2009, 09:07:25 ET
Posted by: Sparkle of your China, on stby
OK..
The production crew needs to find out the songs leading the voting for the Request Nights.
Might one of you be so kind as to post the current voting order HERE as we are damned if we could find it on the interweb.
Thanks
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 19:21:13 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
Newark, did you catch that reference to [Paging] Audrey when Walt was speaking of waking up spilling coffee?
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 18:07:55 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
It's kind of like the blather-filled interview where, when confronted with the slight opening in the question to D & W "What was your favorite Steely Dan cover on the Me, Myself, and Irene soundtrack," and Walter answered something to the effect of, "Well, Only a Fool Would Say That by Ivy was pretty good." The poor interviewer was oblivious to the insult.
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 18:02:40 ET
Posted by: Dokta Biff, Florence
Re the BBC 2 phonelink chat: personally, I thought the line of questioning was so naff, humdrum, laced with fake interest and hurried that B & F might hang up! I mean, did we get anything at all useful or interesting out of it? Surely someone who gets a one-in-a-million chance like that, could come up with a better prepared and more provocative line of questioning, rather than stock, irritating, where-are-you-from-then, show contestant questioning? Bringing up SD's fame for precision (even though Fagen replied, something about a misconception, if memory serves) had me squeezing my eyes shut in fear of hearing the line suddenly go dead... It amounted to disrepect and disinterest the way it came over. I'd waited for the transmission with bated breath, and tuned out thinking 'was that it?' Is it any wonder that B&F and many other artists shy away from interviews? If they're always going to be confronted with the same dull questions and feel obliged to get cuaght up in the woeful efforts at cheery banter which invariably fall flat...this is radio's equivalent of intrusive paparazzi, a verbal run for the SD stage... pick the bones outta that!
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 15:49:07 ET
Posted by: Young Wu,
It was 30 minutes with commercials, so like 23/24 minutes.
As for the online videos...I have seen that clip on-line where Fagen mentions Al Gore but that was the only clip I watched.
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 15:49:03 ET
Posted by: angel,
Nice interview on BBC 2. Some real bust out loud moments.
(Good thing the door to my office was closed.) :-)
Yeah, it sounds like maybe Donald might back off from his No Wu stance. One could hope.
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 15:04:13 ET
Posted by: PGE, without added MSG
So the full MSG special runs 30 minutes? Just curious about the length.
And hoping it pops up online. Why wouldn't MSG want to reach a few extra possible ticket buyers that way?
I also gather that all the short clips with Donald & Walter already there is straight out of that special and not "extras"?
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 13:04:11 ET
Posted by: Lonnie THE Kingpin, La Jolla
Hello one and all:
The program about the SD Rent Party ought nine last night was most excellent. Great to see DF and WB speak as if they are two halves of a whole, which, of course, they are. I get the impression -- and they confirmed it -- that the internet request night will be more like suggestions to DF and WB. As they quipped, "it will be like the electoral college." I hope not -- part of the draw is to hear tunes that have not been done before or not in a very long time. Can you imagine them playing Pearl of the Quarter, Razor Boy, YGT II, etc. One of the charts that I saw on the program was for "Doctor Wu" -- so look out. Boston will get the first shot at this at "The Wang."
Austin Scaggs is a major fan -- as is his daddy.
Keeping it real . . . or whatever!
LTK
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 11:38:04 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Here at the, Western World
Dean, yes it was in informerical... but a pretty damn good one compared to others! I'd take this over any product Billy Mays was selling.
Yes, I hope most here caught their sarcasm/wit throughout the special. You would almost be required to really, to be a true fan.
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 11:29:05 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Young Wu,
I only saw the last 8-10 minutes. I saw Austin Skaggs, but didn't hear that remark. I would have loved it, too.
I thought it was interesting that Walter was saying (paraphrase) "Be prepared to be surprised, for something very different, etc..." I know he was talking about the special set list nights, but it also seemed clear to me that he was joking, using sarcasm, etc. You know some here won't catch that, though.
I'd love to see the whole thing, and record it if possible (I don't have a DVR). But it IS an infomercial, let's be clear about that.
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 11:16:46 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Hitchhicking to MSG after seeing that special
I thought that was a pretty great special. The guys had me laughing several times, and the rehearsal footage was awesome. The Al Gore joke was pretty good. And I liked the fact that they showed Dr. Wu sheet music in the beginning.
Dean, the Rolling Stone guy they had on was talking about how he would love to see Through with Buzz live, I thought you would like that. (with strings!)
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 11:15:17 ET
Posted by: 88 Fingers Louie, BedRockville
Hey, "Say It Ain't Twu". On the BBC, Donald followed up by saying something like "maybe that's just me" and "I could be wrong". So, with the Fuse show opening with a clear shot of the Wu sheet music, perhaps there is some hope...or maybe they're just f*in' with us. We'll see soon enough.
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 10:57:03 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Thanks to Per-Gunnar, Dokta and all the others who posted Italian set info and impressions. Sounds great, so far. And, yes there is a big difference between an involved audience that fills the aisles to dance, and a rush to the front by the clueless. It isn't that hard to tell the difference when you are there.
Just heard the BBC interview (thanks for the link). Actually, Don and Walt gave one of their better interviews, IMO. And Don seems to be softening, a little, on Dr. Wu.
Caught about 10 minutes of the Rent Party infomercial on Fuse, last night. I hope they replay it, or it ends up online (don't get MSG here). Let's make no mistake about it, it is an infomercial...but a fairly decent one. Azoff is no fool. He figured out a way to promote guys who really don't cooperate very well with promotion. And, he has to sell a lot of high dollar seats in NY and Chicago, soon (venues owned by MSG).
Way to keep it classy, Dr. Demento!
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 06:51:26 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I ceased all spell checking a while ago, can't remember how to spell some English words anymore. Especially definately.
I'm sorry to hear reports of bad behavior by the crowds up north. Shocked a little to hear...
Yeah, Jeff Porcaro was master of a mean shuffle, another great drummer of Italian ancestry (paid political announcement) along with Steve Gadd, Vinnie Colaiuta, and, of couse, Keith Carlocco.
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 06:39:50 ET
Posted by: Say it ain't TWu, ..
'When it's over, it feels like nothing happened.'
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 06:37:26 ET
Posted by: Not Your Uncle ,
http://video.msg.com/Videos/MSG-Network/o0kUmtWFjImYxhuUNvGAA_jrjfKSDBRZ
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 06:32:09 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
Start time for that BBC programme on the counter is 1:11.00
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 05:15:00 ET
Posted by: dave from aquisitions, scotland
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00lk18k
Here,s the link for the BBC interview folks, ffwd one hour into the show after the news.
Is anyone posting US tv stuff on youtube?
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 04:54:31 ET
Posted by: Barney Hurley, United Kingdom
Did any of you guys record the 'Steely Dan Rent Party '09 TV special? Dying to see it! Did any of you stream capture the show? If anyone has the special i am willing to trade, i have shit loads of rare Dan material! Regards, Barney
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009, 00:34:21 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Just watched the FUSE special. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad. One cool thing is for the "Steely Dan expert" they had Austin Scaggs, who is definitely a real rabid fan of the band. Don and Walt were funny. Maybe someday complete recordings of the rehearsals will surface?
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 23:03:32 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Brain, OZ
I can't believe I spaced on the MSG / FUSE special tonight. I know there's a replay at 1 am EST. Are any other replays pending ?
Would someone please post the most recent results of the NYC Internet Request nights ? I'm curious... are these shows set up the same as Boston.
Curious. THanks
Beast
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 22:44:03 ET
Posted by: Newark, couch
yep, zim: and the website referred to with clips of show is found at www.msg.com/steelydan and there's a contest for free tix to Boston, NYC and Chicago shows and song voting. That was really neat and a special treat this evening, and some rehearsal clips from Bodi, Home at Last, Here at the WW . . . . . Walter said he wakes up by spilling coffee on himself. . .
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 22:08:29 ET
Posted by: Newark, Eastern Shore
Hey, Steely Dan Rent Party '09 Tour on "Fuse" channel now @ 10 pm EST. Right now until 10:30! Showing rehersals in NYC and short interview commentaries with Walter and Donald--Carolyn and girls and rest of band at rehearsals. Cool! Nwk Showed sheet music with Dr. Wu at beginning of show.
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 22:07:46 ET
Posted by: Zim, NW Connecticut
FUSE is running "Steely Dan Rent Tour '09" right now. Turn on your tv and sit right down.
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 21:35:18 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, all County AR
Dokta: See? there you go. Antipyretics. The wonder drugs that work wonders.
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 21:32:48 ET
Posted by: Josey, SSI
Twas not my intention to come across as a prick and sorry if my post did so.
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 19:51:55 ET
Posted by: Van Foncolo,
"DefinItely", Rajah Cazzo...
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 18:18:56 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Boston Rag was definately 2000, very dramatic opener...
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 17:40:29 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Re the extended 'Boston Rag' played as opening gambit (Norfitz's post) - this was, I'm pretty certain, the 2000 tour, as I heard it myself at the Hammersmith Odeon gig, and have recorded evidence. Drum intro (Rickie Lawson) > a few bass lines (Tom Barney) > a few piano chords (Ted Baker) and sax lines (Bumpus/Sheppard) > Boston Rag intro as Becker and Fagen walk on to pick up the tune.
The 'girl's name' intro tune from 2007 must be 'Jeri' (by Gerald Wilson), which was generally followed by 'Time out of Mind'.
As for the 'Purdie shuffle' - well, speaking as a drummer, bloody difficult to play it with the required mix of ease and panache, but not quite 'unplayable' - Porcaro (as well as Carlock) could nail it, as he did on Toto's 'Rosanna'.
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 17:40:08 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I think it's just a curfew thing anout the encores.
The Purdie shuffle is very difficult, he makes it look easy like he did at the Cincy Danfest in 2005...but it ain't, half-time, double time, that's something he's developed over a lifetime and, no, I don't think even Keith could pull it off with the same feel. Antonio Sanchez maybe.
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 17:21:28 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, San Francisco's Mission District
I've noticed while looking at the set lists that some nights they play two songs for the encore, then go into Last Tango in Paris. Other nights, just one song before LTiP.
Why do you think that is? Is it just a predetermined thing on their part, or is it because the audience is into it and giving them lots of love/energy that they feel obliged to do a 2 song encore?
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 17:07:53 ET
Posted by: Happy Dokta Biff, heaven right now
Ok, unplayable shuffle it ain't.. but who cares when you..sorry I, just got a mention on BBC Radio 2's scratchy phonelink chat with B&F tonight...yep, to those of you who heard it, the opening mention of the tuned in SD fan in Florence, Italy was aimed at none other than my good self (I say 'good' with with a vaguely dubious and somewhat sinister tone), but it was me nonetheless, a touching tribute from a staunch, discerning SD brother in a a faraway land.. last Saturday's Perugian pillocks suddenly became ever more insignificant .. I do believe I'm moving on..I no longer feel like Lu Chang's brother..
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 16:42:45 ET
Posted by: Thanks, Josey
for the eye-opening critique of the playability of the shuffle beat. What a prick you are.
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 16:37:33 ET
Posted by: T, Avignon
Monaco Setlist
Monte-Carlo Sporting Club
July 12 2009
Teenie's Blues
Reelin In The Years (new version)
Time Out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Two Against Nature
Black Friday
Aja
Hey 19
Parker's Band
Babylon Sisters
Daddy Don't Live…(Walter)
Love is Like an Itchin In My Heart + intros
Josie
Peg
Encores:
Kid Charlemagne
Last Tango in Paris
Report in few days...
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 14:17:46 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island
"thanks to Keith Carlock absolutely nailing Bernard Purdie's signature, unplayable shuffle beat;".... Why is this "unplayable"?? It's very playable! Granted, it's not for beginners, but it's certainly not unplayable.
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 13:36:28 ET
Posted by: DoctorDub, Aviano, Italy
Sorry for the late posting on this show, but I just got back from Perugia and wanted to comment on the show. The setlist they played is/was identical to that posted below from Milano. I thought the sound was excellent, very high-fi, though I have one grumble about it: I thought Donald's lead vox could have been more forward in the mix. Admittedly I would hate to be the sound man trying to keep up with Don's constant working the mic and weaving in and out of proximity, but this gets to the heart of my critique. This was my first time actually getting to see the Dan live, so I don't have a frame of reference other than studio recordings, but I thought the lead vocals were in many ways the Achilles heel of the performance. This was the second to the last stop on the European leg of the tour, which was preceded by the Rent Party tour, and I think Don's vocals were showing the signs of strain and fatigue from all the previous shows. He was at times not dead-on in terms of pitch and showed a noticeable tendency to back away from the mic for high notes. Yeah, I know he's not 25 anymore, and he was a soulful and sardonic as ever, and yet I missed the strong vocals of the days of yore. Regarding Walter's 3 minutes of fame, I thought hearing him sing Daddy Don't Live... was a revelation. I've always thought he probably wrote most of this song, and hearing him sing it just reinforced that impression for me. I wish they would have thrown in a few more Becker vox just for good measure. Highlights of the show for me: My Old School, with killer guitar from JH and a 2009 horn arrangement that seemed to sound even better than Jimmie Haskell's original; Babylon Sisters, which came closest to sounding like a dead ringer for the album version, thanks to Keith Carlock absolutely nailing Bernard Purdie's signature, unplayable shuffle beat; John Herrington's solo on Kid Charlemagne, which to me was as sweet as the original. And I loved them playing Gato Barbieri's Last Tango in Paris as a walk-off instrumental - stroke of genius.
I wish I could have seen them earlier in the tour. But all in all I wouldn't have missed it for the world.
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 11:42:28 ET
Posted by: T. Prete,
Anyone seen Band Intros 7/09 on You Tube or elsewhere?
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 11:26:54 ET
Posted by: Barney Hurley, United Kingdom
Hey,
any of you guys recording the Steely Dan Rent Party '09 TV special? (Time Warner Channel 27/727). I'd love to see it, the sneak preview looks like it's gonna be very interesting!
On a similar note, did anyone record the Beacon Theatre Doc' (A New York Legend Reborn). Love to have either of these on DVD.
If anyone has these, maybe we could sort out a trade?
Kind regards
Barney
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 10:23:49 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
correction, i think it was 2007 come to think of it
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 10:08:41 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
Norfitz, I believe you are talking about the 2006 tour. the intro was arranged by Michael Leonhart, it sort of had a "Price Is Right" sound to parts of it. I was told the name of it, and of course I can't remember now, but I think it was a girl's name. I'll try to feach the person again about it. I too was curious as to what it was.
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 06:16:12 ET
Posted by: T, Avignon
Milan Setlist
Arena Civica
July 09 2009
Teenie's Blues
Reelin In The Years (new version)
Time Out of Mind
Bodhisattva
I Got The News
Show Biz Kids
Black Friday
Home At Last
Bad Sneakers
Two Against Nature
Hey 19
Aja
Parker's Band
Babylon Sisters
Daddy Don't Live…(Walter)
Green Earrings
Love is Like an Itchin In My Heart + intros
Peg
My Old School
Encores:
Kid Charlemagne
Last Tango in Paris
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 06:07:13 ET
Posted by: deaconblue, BRUSSELS
It was not the running fact at his own that was disturbing me. If such an event happens because an over enthousiast crowd, than it's ok for me. But it were clearly 10-15 peoplethat ran from the ultra backside to the frontstage exclusively to agitated the rest of the crowd. Now for the ambience it was surely good becauseit gave an complete different dimension to the concert. But at the same i felt i was at a concert of one or other popular rockband. And that's wrong!
Going to a Steely Dan gig is a question of listening to the music, the details and the nuances of their great compositions. It's like going to an opera or classical concert. I don't see that crowd running to the frontstage like insanes and screaming the notes. By the way, i heard the same thing happened in Milan.
Generally the Steely Dan fans are going to the frontstage with the encores. That's a tradition and i think Walter and Donald choose their encore songs also in function of that. It are always the same songs.
I saw the reaction of Jon Herrington's face during thge Mexican wave. He was surprised and i think he didn't appreciated it.
Steely Dan concerts are not the same as the average pop or rockconcerts. You have one of the best bands and musicians in history of modern music on stage with a absolute maestro on the lead of it: Fagen is a Beethoven or a Bach of the modern music of the last35 years. That deserves a lot of respect.
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 05:12:40 ET
Posted by: Biff MD, Florence..still hangin in there..
Provincial: I'll put it simply - you weren't there, I was. These people were enthusiastic maybe, but it was a primary school, nay kindergarten 'no-idea-why-i'm-doing-this' enthusiasm. The point is, it didn't matter who the band/artist on stage was..they ran for the sake of running, and giggled as they tripped and fell over each other to be nearer the stage than the other chumps running alongside (Italian one-upmanship again). I reckon that if anyone had done a street survey on the evening before the gig, asking whoever passed by if they'd heard of Steely Dan, the final polls would have shown that SD shouldn't have even bothered walking on stage...of course, Becker & Fagen could have ran on stage, that might have been a crowd pleaser, what do you think? Nah, Fagen lurched so slowly around the stage I doubt that running would be in his performance remit...running for the stage exit then the airport might have been a wiser move.. singing 'Any (other) World That I'm Welcome To'.
Case reopened briefly, then shut again.
Date: Tues, July 14, 2009, 01:50:31 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Don't remember when this was last thrown up... or out here:
Steely Dan Rent Party: Catch a Sneak Peak on FUSE TOMORROW!
http://msgnyc.com/viewmsg.cfm?n35043s13381c23618089t13390]
PPS: Just my luck, Dokta B FROM Florence; Dr from the smogberry trees; and the QUESTSHUN all figured it out at the same time: shit for brains.
If people 'rush the stage' toward the end of the set proper, aside from the possible bad feelings brought on having suffered one-upsmanship, can't the new, renewed energy pumped into the party be used to just 'pump up the party' regardless of its know-nothing or non-aficionado, gate-crashing source? Isn't it enthusiasm? Seems like our little band of brothers have been passed by as others have pressed forward at Dallas Starplex or Denver Fiddler's Green. What they pressed for... uh, well... umm. But those folks were enthusiastic.
Date: Mon, July 13, 2009, 21:59:57 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba, deep in the Charlotte exurbs
Saw this at WB dotcom...
"Walter Becker and Donald Fagen of Steely Dan will be interviewed on the Radcliffe and Maconie Show on BBC Radio 2 tomorrow (14th July) - be sure to tune in (2000-2200 uk time) online or 88-91 fm."
Date: Mon, July 13, 2009, 20:54:27 ET
Posted by: Those_Frenetic_Licks_, In_Green_Earrings
While the QUESTSHUN (see previous posts) is working on the Provincial Rorschach, it spat out a list you will recognize and hopefully find useful. But hit the right button too soon. Now I have to post my clever intro in a separate, lame post. I'd've put each song on it own line but I don't think you'd like it. Repost sorted by Album on request. We're with you Dokta, he's on to something.
Date: Mon, July 13, 2009, 20:50:08 ET
Posted by: Those_Frenetic_Licks_, In_Green_Earrings
AG::Almost Gothic, Aja::Aja, AMDWTY::Any Major Dude Will Tell You, AWTWT::Any World (That I'm Welcome To), BTown::Barrytown, Bodhi::Bodhisattva, BB::Blues Beach, BC::Black Cow, BF::Black Friday, BOTCUM::Brooklyn (Owes The Charmer Under Me), BS::Babylon Sisters, BS::Bad Sneakers, CD::Cousin Dupree, CF::Charlie Freak, CL::Chain Lightning, COTG::Change Of The Guard, DB::Deacon Blues, DDLITNYCNM::Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More, DIA::Do It Again, DTMA::Don't Take Me Alive, DW::Dirty Work, DW::Dr Wu, EGTTM::Everyone's Gone To The Movies, EMG::Everything Must Go, EYD::Everything You Did, FITH::Fire In The Hole, FM '78, G::Gaucho, G::Godwhacker, GA::Gaslighting Abbie, GB::Green Book, GE::Green Earrings, GP::Glamour Profession, HAL::Home At Last, HATWW::Here At The Western World '76, HD::Haitian Divorce, HN::Hey Nineteen, IGTH::I Got The News, J::Josie, JOS::Jack Of Speed, JR::Janie Runaway, K::Kings, KC::Kid Charlemagne, KOTW::King Of The World, LWG::Lunch With Gina, MC::Midnight Cruiser, MIYS::Monkey In Your Soul, MOS::My Old School, MR::My Rival, NBN::Night By Night, NG::Negative Girl, OAFWST::Only A Fool Would Say That, P::Pixeleen, PB::Parker's Band, Peg::Peg, PL::Pretzel Logic, POTQ::Pearl Of The Quarter, RB::Razor Boy, RD::Rose Darling, RDLTN::Rikki Don't Lose That Number, RITY::Reelin' In The Years, SIS::Sign in Stranger, SBK::Show Biz Kids, SOA::Slang Of Ages, TAN::Two Against Nature, TBR::The Boston Rag, TBTLO::Throw Back The Little Ones, TCOA::The Caves of Altamira, TF::The Fez, TIMTM::Things I Miss The Most, TLM::The Last Mall, TOOM::Time Out Of Mind, TRS::The Royal Scam, TSDS::The Steely Dan Show '00, TTHOA::Turn That Heartbeat Over Again, TWB::Through With Buzz, TWM::Third World Man, WAG::With A Gun, WASAM::What A Shame About Me, WOH::West Of Hollywood, YGT::Your Gold Teeth, YGT::Your Gold Teeth II
Date: Mon, July 13, 2009, 17:55:41 ET
Posted by: Dokta Biff, Florence...just
Hankering for: I'm with you on that, but these weren't SD fans, these were buffoons who knew zip about decorum and even less about who SD are. It's not the first time either that I've been subjected to such mob moronic behaviour: can you believe it happened towards the end of a Pat Metheny Trio gig 4 years ago, on the outskirts of Florence? And note this: they, the audience, tried to keep time clapping their hands...to what? Hell, even Christian McBride had trouble keeping up with Metheny, what the jesus was this audience thinking about? I could say a lot more but ought to digress at this enraged point..
Date: Mon, July 13, 2009, 17:35:37 ET
Posted by: Dokta Biff, Florence..maybe not for much longer..
Bill from Pgh: that was Becker's solo on Bad Sneakers? Crikey. My cd sleevenotes don't mention that...I want my piasters back!!
Admission: 'Dave from Acquisitions' is my (W)alter ego. I'm still on medication to rid myself of his nose rubbing tendencies, but I do feel justified that logistically he just wasn't boarding that flight (beginning to sound like Provincial Reuben here)..it's all getting a bit 'cliquish bastards' but esoterically fun all the same. So Noo Yoik it is...quit dreamin' and start packin'..
PS: bet the rhodes gag tickled you
PPS: 'Provincial Reuben'..hey, that's an anagram of...
Date: Mon, July 13, 2009, 17:27:16 ET
Posted by: Hankering for, the old days
Back before tickets cost the princely sums that they do today, moving down in front of the stage, especially during the encore, was a staple of concert-going, at least it was where I was going to concerts. At today's prices, I guess the ticket-buying public thinks it is also buying a little crowd decorum. It would be a crying shame, though, if a venue got blackballed just because the fans were enthusiastic.
Date: Mon, July 13, 2009, 16:46:20 ET
Posted by: Norfitz, far Arcturus
A few tours back, perhaps 2005 or 2006, SD opened a set with a bunch of nice instrumental choruses before Donald and Walter came out, no one within earshot of me could recognize from the chords what tune it was, and when they finally walked out, it swung right into the intro of The Boston Rag. I'm trying to reconstruct this extended intro to play it w my band, and can't recollect how they did it. If it is merely the intro chords, how do they turn it around to go back into itself? I haven't found the live arrangement online yet. Have any of you figured this one out or have a recording of the arrangement with the extended intro?
Date: Mon, July 13, 2009, 16:39:23 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Deaconlue: Wow. Always interesting to hear another point of view; especially from another point of view. I wonder how T. from Avignon feels about all this by now.
Bill from Pgh: I'd forgotten about a credit for 'Bad Sneakers' guitar work. And thanks for that Gather link the other day. That led to some interesting stuff.
Date: Mon, July 13, 2009, 16:33:01 ET
Posted by: Dokta Biff, Florence, Italy
Deaconblue, Brussels:
"Constantly talking during the songs about the breakfast they took that morning.
Or doing the Mexican Wave each time the girls were singing "Babylon sisters, shake it".
Or joining their seats 15 minutes after the concert began.
But what i mostly disliked was the fact that 10 or 15 Mo....Fu....'s came running from the back (Gardinata) to the frontstage 15 minutes before the encore. Result:the all area who didn't what was happening did just the same.
Donald, walter and the rest of the band were a little bit surprised and disconcentrated of that crowd movement"
Thank you Deaconblue. NOW my case is firmly closed. Let's hope SD wise up after this and stay well away, performing where they're more likely to be recognised and appreciated. I still cringe thinking back on Saturday night's embarrassingly immature stage dash.. it hammered several nails firmly into the coffin of ever seeing live music here again. A shameful, nauseating display indeed.
Date: Mon, July 13, 2009, 15:05:07 ET
Posted by: Deaconblue, BrUSSELS
Well this is how i felt about Perugia. The show was just like in Rome and Brussels just great.
Maybe i can put Rome at the first place just because the extraordinair sound. This very stylish amphytheater in parco della musica have only about 3000 seats and only three quarters were really filled. This place was actually build for classical concerts but others styles made their introduction over the last years. The acoustics were close to perfection and from that point of view i found Rome the best of my 3 live experiences of the Left Bank Holiday tour this year.
The reason Donald and Walter didn't leave the podium before the encore, was that the stage was completely open and they had to walk 2 times 50 meters to left the stage and come back for the encore.Too many highlights to mention but my favourites were "Reeling in the Years, "Parkers Band" and "Show Bizz Kids".
So musically Perugia was surely from the same level as Rome. The sound was not bad it all but not as good as Rome. The negative points was the desinterest disrespect from some of the Italian people but i'm talking about a minority.
Constantly talking during the songs about the breakfast they took that morning.
Or doing the Mexican Wave each time the girls were singing "Babylon sisters, shake it".
Or joining their seats 15 minutes after the concert began.
But what i mostly disliked was the fact that 10 or 15 Mo....Fu....'s came running from the back (Gardinata) to the frontstage 15 minutes before the encore. Result:the all area who didn't what was happening did just the same.
Donald, walter and the rest of the band were a little bit surprised and disconcentrated of that crowd movement.
But despite of that fact I enjoyed the show. same highlights as in Rome but "Bodhysatva as new song in the setlist.
Finaly i'll congratulate Tim from England and Salvatore from Italy that were be able to let them photograph with Donald Fagen. I wan't in the neighbourhood of the Hotel Brufani where the whole band was staying when Donald was leaving the hotel. So i have to do it with a photo with Roger Rosenberg from the day before. But i'm happy for those lucky once.
And without our French friend T. from Avignon. He did Paris, London,Birmingham,Montreux, Milan, Perugia and Monte Carlo.
It's always a very special experience to meet and re-meet other Danfans and share that very strange but sincere passion that's named Steely Dan
We truly are a very special club.
Date: Mon, July 13, 2009, 13:42:56 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh ,
The original Bad Sneakers solo was in fact one of the better efforts from Walter himself. He never tries to reproduce it. Some of his latter-day takes on the solo are great (such as the Plush version, as I recall), others a bit meandering, some just plain chock full of clams, but he is definitely improvising them.
>>'Bad Sneakers' was good too, but the original, gorgeous, uplifting solo on the studio track (Dean Parks? Elliot Randall?) was sorely missed/screwed up.
Date: Mon, July 13, 2009, 06:16:33 ET
Posted by: Dave from Aquisitions, Scotland
Billy (Biff) you've made me feel slightly better about missing Perugia ,which incidentally is the second time I've "missed Perugia" the first being a soccerball related incident.
Yup Edinburgh was just ace and your presence would have made it even more ace.
The bars in the area around The Playhouse were heaving with Dansters (Danites?)with much backslapping and bonhomie (saw Lloyd and various ex Mafioso)and young McDermott was in the air tho never bellybumped him. Next time dude New Yoik beckons just let me get saving up.
Date: Sun, July 12, 2009, 22:39:56 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Naw. I do REALLY, REALLY do adore (and, I promise sometimes bombast) the WB/DF/SD function of the life calculus. Perhaps there was too much MAD Magazine in utero and then maybe a little more Firesign Theatre than was necessary, but as a professional father, I'm trapped in a house of Disney Channel.
And I can't post in the Jonas Brothers room anymore.
Well, I guess you're right. I do go kinda ape-shit at the keyboard sometimes. And I don't mind Walter Becker's singing.
Date: Sun, July 12, 2009, 20:42:27 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
I've figured it out. Provincial Reuben is actually an infinite number of monkeys typing at an infinite number of word processors. Every once in a while they churn out something that for a few sentences approximates written English before turning back into gibberish. Those few sentences wind up posted here on the Blue under the rubric "Provincial Reuben." Well done, I say. Well done!
Date: Sun, July 12, 2009, 20:35:27 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
And speaking of LMFAO: All rhodes lead to Rome
CODEBLUECODEBLUECODEBLUEPOINTANDLAUGHCODEBLUECODEBLUECODEBLUE
I wish I'd said that.
Don't worry about me: it's all good, bro.
As we say down at the mosque: If you are a Sunni, you ain't Shite.
Or words to that effect.
Date: Sun, July 12, 2009, 18:49:18 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Dokta Bif - brillant...just...brilliant...thank you.
Date: Sun, July 12, 2009, 18:38:53 ET
Posted by: Dokta Biff, Florence, Italy
Dear Reuben (apologies for misspelling your monicker last time around)..your posts are wildly profound and/or cleverly cryptic and/or utter shite...but I love them!! Maybe it's my own lack of Dan savvy that has me scratching my bonce in something akin to rapture when I (try to) fathom your posts, but that said, I'd bet that a whole bunch o' posters tune back in here simply because you're out there ..in more ways than six..don't let 'em phase you.
Truth is, the more I run over last night's gig in my head, the more those 'terzo mondo' twats and SD fakers in the audience fade away...post gig, I'm strangely beginning to enjoy the show. The mistake however was mine: I booked late on, otherwise I'd have been in a frontish row seat, so close to Fagen's keyboard that I'd have seen what he had for breakfast.. must all (Fender) Rhodes lead to Rome??
They say that time is a great healer: I'm already feeling better after the utter dejection I was feeling in the presence of greatness last night (only because it was momentarily outweighed by the overwhelming presence of cluelessness).. audience appreciation, if not full blown involvement, can give an enormous and unforgettable lift to any live performance, without it becoming a mob-mentality free-for-all. Which, by the way, happened last night. After Fagen inadvertently heralded the end of the show by saying something like "who's the prick who kept bellowing "IGY"??, the cheap-seat chumps made a bee-line for the stage (Italian one-upmanship more than anything else, a deliberate attempt to show those who paid €45 for a seat had thrown their money away, because 'now we're nearer the stage than you!'). I noted they charged towards the front in droves, giggling and laughing like extras on a movie set and were seemingly unaware of what they were even doing, like lemmings...lambs to the slaughter..how I prayed for an impromptu version of 'With A Gun'.. with a gun..
Date: Sun, July 12, 2009, 15:27:38 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Ah, thank you, Dokta. Sorry about your lacuna and not-for-the-ages experience.
So we've got a merely (we hope) acute olignecrosis brought about by audience/band closure that didn't make it past stenosis. Dang.
Maybe it was something they eight in Milan.
Well, the EOB is in the mail and happy and safe return.
Date: Sun, July 12, 2009, 12:03:24 ET
Posted by: Dokta Biff, Florence, Italy
Provincial Rueben: nice you remembered me and my hopeless effort at trying to give away a free ticket (there were depressingly too many empty seats last night, not only the one on my left...) I'm still working on something like a review, but it's not looking very pretty right now... and 'pge's post yesterday hit a few similar nails on the head, so I'll have to rework/rewrite/agree on some.
In short, last night the atmosphere was wrong, and the audience was totally wrong: think the majority got completely the wrong night, shoulda been Simply Red for them, which is tonight, and one jerk kept bawling "IGY, IGY!!" during numbers...I rest my case...which I'm still having trouble closing after last night's (audience)fiasco.
There was a whole section of empty seats, between where I was and the very at-the-back 'gradini' (stone steps, no numbering, sit where you want) which cost €15. Guess what? The 'gradini' area was chock full, so SD fans they weren't. They were people who found themselves in Perugia during the jazz festival, and had maybe half-heard of SD and/or went along because there was nothing else on. Or thought "Hmmm SD, eh?...nah, not paying €45 for them, might stretch to €15 though". Even in my section (€45) couples happily chatted loudly throughout, gazed up at the moon, gazed at each other, yawned, got distracted off to the left (I glanced over to the left to see what it was all about but all I could see was that empty seat next to me) and were a general disturbance. I should have taken the offer some time ago of a ticket for the sell-out Edinburgh gig, got a low-cost return flight from Pisa, seen the band in an enclosed theatre CRAMMED with discerning SD fans, and happily flown back to Italy a day or so later. So in part, the evening being ruined was my own fault. The upshot is though, that I won't hurry back to any gigs here, and still hope some day to see SD on their own territory, where the familiar appreciation factor is a bonus, bigger than you might imagine.
My feeling (which 'pge' touched on) is that the band sensed some of the disinterest shown, so that band/audience rapport was never quite there, although they seemed to play with gusto and Donald even ventured a "buonasera y'all" early on, and offered the odd "grazie" between numbers. Becker also came back onstage for the encore with with piece of paper in hand and read something in Italian from it, however it was lost in the night breeze as he wasn't miked up and it was partially drowned out by that airhead who was still shouting "IGY, IGY!!". The band were good, tight & solid, and Fagen was fairly animated and performed well. But Becker's improvised soloing was way too samey for me, and Jon Herington's playing was surprisingly stilted and dare I say, amatuerish (bum notes aplenty) even though he never removed that same non-plussed, "stage fright? me??" expression the whole evening.
Anyway, standout numbers for me were 'Showbiz Kids', 'Aja', 'I Got The News', 'Home At Last', 'Green Earrings' and 'Kid Charlemagne' (which was first encore number, second was 'My Old School'). I did like the reworked 'RITY', but having Becker sing/talk 'Daddy Don't Live..' was a very bad idea. 'Bad Sneakers' was good too, but the original, gorgeous, uplifting solo on the studio track (Dean Parks? Elliot Randall?) was sorely missed/screwed up. And as someone else already pointed out, something else that was missed but I still heard all the same, was Michael McDonald's "Broadway Duchess.."
Case (firmly) closed...or is it?
Date: Sun, July 12, 2009, 08:42:02 ET
Posted by: Thefez98, Boston
This maybe a dumas post based on the eclectic nature of this board, but has anyone mucked around with the SD tunes available on Guitar Hero/Rock Band? I had a little buzz on the other night and jammed out with the kiddies on 'Black Friday' and 'Kid Charlemagne' (Guitar Hero) and it was actually alot of fun. Hey, that plastic guitar is not much different than that plastic organ Donald wailed on. Check it out - maybe after a little FCG.
BTW - Danielle and I are looking forward to leaving the little ones with the grand parents and catching the first SD Internet Request night on 7/25. Thanks to Sue&Dave for the heads up on the late release of good seats for this show. I'm almost $300 poorer but we will be 8 rows from the stage and we need a night out. Hopefully catch Hoops, Pete/Shari and the usual Boston Danfest crew prior to the show. Felt? Dunno. It seemed to work OK before DF's show.
Date: Sun, July 12, 2009, 01:09:20 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Diagnosis, Dokta Biff?
Date: Sat, July 11, 2009, 12:46:27 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Glen Lake
Thanks for the nice report Per!
Sound like nothing on the Euro
Leg is beating the London show
though.
I hope Donald is enjoying the
Napoleon Museum. It's the only
reason they are playing Monte
Carlo, count on it.
Date: Sat, July 11, 2009, 08:57:59 ET
Posted by: pge, pre-perugia, post-padova
The way you experience a concert isn't just up to the band. It's so much more. The audience, the place they play, the weather (if it's outside), your own expectancies and in general how you feel that day.
The show in Padova was the sixth time I've seen Steely Dan live. And looking back on it I find that although a lot of songs have been on that setlist each and every time, the six shows have all been very different shows to me. And I've enjoyed them all.
A born and bred reserved seat-dancing Swede I expected a lively audience in Padova/Piazzola. But what the band got was a very in-their-seats audience who clapped and cheered between songs, but not much more. It was more reserved than any of the two Swedish and one Danish Steely Dan show I've been to.
Maybe it just was that kind of audience, maybe the old and beautiful buildings of the Villa Contarini had something to do with it, but the polite audience response may have been the reason the band stepped back a bit after the first two, three songs. Or maybe they didn't and it was my own bewilderment and slight disappointment at the crowd that played tricks on me?
That upward spiral of audience feeding band feeding audience never took off.
Donald was in fine voice and made more short comments than I've seen him do before.
Jon Herington had less to do and Walter more.
Jim Beard was hidden away behind Donald and the singers but delivered a organ solo on Green Earrings that had me smiling. Still does.
And I must say that three singers sound so much better than two. In their big wigs they did a fair amount of moving about seeming to enjoy themselves.
In the horn section "newcomer" Marvin Stamm did his thing very well.
Did I like the "new" Show Biz Kids? Yes.
The previous time I saw Steely Dan was in Stockholm 2007. Then I was surprised at how tight and no nonsense the show was. From one song to the next. Bam! Bam! Bam! But it didn't feel like they were hurring through it to be someplace else.
The Steely Dan show 2009 has a bit more air in songs and between songs. Is it just me or did they slow down Two Against Nature?
Villa Conatrini was a great place to listen to Steely Dan live. Under an Italian evening sky that even managed to deliver a storm with lightning that came creeping closer during the first few songs jut to pull back and then stop altogether.
The air was warm and I had a great time.
It'll be interesting to see what happens in Perugia this night.
P.S.
As I said to a non-audience member after the show; I'm there to have a good time so I'm not looking for the
small wrongs but the big right in the whole of the show.
Or something like that. It sounded profound and like an insight at the time and I still stand by it. :)
Thnx to Al&Gas for correcting my attempt at setlist.
Date: Sat, July 11, 2009, 08:42:02 ET
Posted by: Brain Strainer,
The most recent Strainer was:
"Today's Strainer deals with a tune from the New Testament, a certain (sic, or "sick"?)"Godwacker". Where Dan Quayle once insisted on garnishing his potato with an "E", Steely Dan whacks their deities minus an "H". Though Godwacker is thought by some to be primarily a Becker type song, perhaps even more so since we have heard more of his own musical style displayed on Circus Money, this tune is much more derived or influenced sonically from a solo tune recorded by his Steely partner Don Fagen.
Name the tune from Fagen's Trilogy (not boxed set) which exerted a principal influence, intended or not, on Godwacker..."
An interesting twist to this was that Trans Island Skyway was proposed as the answer by several responders. There are several licks etc. that resemble those used in Godwacker, but Trans Island as a whole has too much lope, bounce to have influenced Godwacker, which has more of a drving, even tempo. Trans Island fans should keep that tune in mind, as it will be coming up in a future Strainer.
Several posters got the correct response, including "My guess" who once again "guessed" correctly, Green Flower Street, the second cut off of Nightfly. That makes three correct overall, which is a "hat trick" in my neck of the woods for My guess.
Key to recognizing the connection of Green Flower Street to Godwacker is the structure and tempo of the VERSES of each song, and particularly that repeating little punctuating bass noodle.
Date: Sat, July 11, 2009, 06:22:52 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Dr. Demento, yo mama...
Date: Sat, July 11, 2009, 05:06:38 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Boy, is my face rouge. I should never rely on my addled memory. I got 'Night by Night' confused with 'Greenbook.'
While there's nothing wrong with our virtuous selves, maybe we should consider Voltaire's 'Essay on Tolerance,' and (sorta kinda) "...think for (y)ourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too..."
I'll try to glisse away now.
Date: Sat, July 11, 2009, 01:29:45 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
And in unrelated news...
You gotta excuse my enlightenment coinciding with the age of oxymo... I mean, disco music. But I always wondered why these guys went to the trouble to write this killer dance tune in 12. Wow. so that puts the tempo up to, what, like 256?
Is Do it Again something like flamenco clave?
I'm with you. I gotta get an accent mark and a tilde.
Date: Sat, July 11, 2009, 01:15:09 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Yeek! Phil, what's with all the hostility? Gimme kiss, baby!
Let's see:
I've been loo== check back over posts== check douche== check
is over== check fucking the top== check huh?== check
self-annointed== check ass-wipe?== check little knowledge== check
gets you== check smart aft boar== check AND well, we know== check
out him== check blow== check anything SD== check two assholes=check
I think== check they do== check with/all/their== check/check/check
pretentious== check mumbo== doing research jumbo== jumbo check
enough
agree
go dance to hose mo== chick
deservice? Okay. Sure. Not as good as de food for thought.
C'MON. LOOK AT ALL THOSE CHECKS! THIS LOOKS LIKE THE PERFECT APPLICATION FOR ADMISSION INTO NEOPALEOPOSTIRONIC THRALLDOM. MY DEAR, THERE COULDN'T BE A CLASS without THEM!
Let's rise up and put on our Robespierre.
Okay. Who took my robe?
I sure hope Mr. McKay doesn't get letters about this.
Date: Fri, July 10, 2009, 22:58:20 ET
Posted by: spell checker,
Hale and hearty, not Hail
Date: Fri, July 10, 2009, 22:47:08 ET
Posted by: erratum,
"disservice" not "deservice" Otherwise, a pretty good post.
Date: Fri, July 10, 2009, 22:32:51 ET
Posted by: Thefez98, Boston
This maybe a dumas post based on the eclectic nature of this board, but has anyone mucked around with the SD tunes available on Guitar Hero/Rock Band? I had a little buzz on the other night and jammed out with the kiddies on 'Black Friday' and 'Kid Charlemagne' (Guitar Hero) and it was actually alot of fun. Hey, that plastic guitar is not much different than that plastic organ Donald wailed on. Check it out - maybe after a little FCG.
BTW - Danielle and I are looking forward to leaving the little ones with the grand parents and catching the first SD Internet Request night on 7/25. Thanks to Sue&Dave for the heads up on the late release of good seats for this show. I'm almost $300 poorer but we will be 8 rows from the stage and we need a night out. Hopefully catch Hoops, Pete/Shari and the usual Boston Danfest crew prior to the show. Felt? Dunno. It seemed to work OK before DF's show.
Date: Fri, July 10, 2009, 21:04:42 ET
Posted by: Some, perspective
DREW ZINGG has a cool name.
Jon Herington ROCKS!!!!
Date: Fri, July 10, 2009, 17:27:34 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" This is more than tangentially Steely Dan because (as Boz likes to do) Mr. Drew Zingg is on guitar for Boz on this tour. Boz does like to use the former SD players and the Zingg-er is a beast. "
Enjoy the show --- Drew Zingg ROCKS !!!!
I simply MUST get out that Boz Scaggs DVD/CD from 2004 :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj4JCPXQjk8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn1sEssGMLk
J.
Date: Fri, July 10, 2009, 16:35:13 ET
Posted by: Lonnie THE Kingpin, Celebrity Theatre
Hello one and all:
Tonight LTK sees Mr. Boz Scaggs (sans Freddie and Jon since they are with the SD Orchestra now) and Mr. Mike McDonald in an intimate venue. This is more than tangentially Steely Dan because (as Boz likes to do) Mr. Drew Zingg is on guitar for Boz on this tour. Boz does like to use the former SD players and the Zingg-er is a beast. I have been told by certain friends in the know that Boz and boys are working up a little "sumthin sumthin" for the gig Sat. night in Los Angeles at the Greek. Seems that they will doing a Michael Jackson tune to honor the "King of Pop." Should be a good try out tonight at the Celebrity Theatre -- one of the most acoustically perfect venues in the nation.
A report will come at a later time.
As always, I am and remain,
LTK
Date: Fri, July 10, 2009, 13:49:46 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Al&Gas, beautiful post, your passion moves me so, don't be gone another few years...come back to us...soon.
Date: Fri, July 10, 2009, 13:05:26 ET
Posted by: Al&Gas, Padova, Italy
Ups, sorry, age takes its toll… Where were we Gas? Ah, right, Wednesday night, the Dan… What a show bro, fine indeed, Donald in great shape, even doing a bit of ballet… Girls gorgeous, sang like honey and velvet mixed toghether. What Gas? They all already know that stuff? Must be more useful? Ok so, add to PGE list Bodhisattva (second song if memory doesn’t fails) and Josie towards the end, should be complete now.
Our two cents for Moondog’s contest: if we are allowed to be a little picky the exact line is “è l’era del terzo mando”, as sung by Donald.
What a night we all had. How to describe, gentlemen, the magnificence of the place where they played? On one side, at a distance, the wonderful villa, dressed up in her night dress of lights, silhouhetted against the black of a gathering of corruscating clouds. On the other side of the circular square the moon gently rising avbove the rooftops. Right in the middle the stage, where our favourite band since 30 years was playing our favourite music since 30 years. How could possibily a show like this not be great? I felt so emotional that when they started hey nineteen I tried to kiss Gas. He dismissed me saying it was nineteen, not ninety. Remember Gas? Ok, I shut myself up.
We tried to make it to the backstage, I confidently said to one of the security "just saying hallo to Walt, we know him" he didn’t even look at me and said they don’t want anyone to get in. I’m afraid my charme is rather overdue, as I said age takes its toll. Ok gentlemen, pardonnez nous if we are too silly, now we pay a visit to StAlphonzo and then back to sleep for another fifteen years.
Thanks for the passion
Al&Gas aka the mock turtles
Date: Fri, July 10, 2009, 12:11:05 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
The guy that played sax for Michael McDonald on the Sugartooth McDan tour did a great job. I can't remember his name, but MM said that he had been with him for 20 years.
Date: Fri, July 10, 2009, 09:17:45 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
How quickly we forget Cornelius Bumpus.
I figured Clarence Clemons would be mentioned. Indeed "the Big Man" has been a staple of the E Street Band for many years (with one sizable break, I believe). I vaguely recall Clarence giving a reasonable performance with Bruce, back in the mid-70s. I don't recall anything special, but I also can't remember hating it.
I had the opportunity to see Clarence headline with a band sometime in the 80s or 90s, and he was horrendous. He has a nice tone, and plays loud, but based on that concert the guy is a below average player.
I'm not sure if I was more disappointed with Clarence or with Richard Elliot. Elliot was part of the famed Tower of Power horn section, so I was looking forward to the show. But at his solo show (I believe at Boz Scagg's club, Slims in SF), Elliot spent most of his time posing with the horn and holding one loud note for a long time.
I think Elliot proved to be a better player than Clemons (based on those single solo experiences) but neither proved to be anything special outside of the comfort of their more famous rock ensembles.
A jazz aside. For those in the SF area, you really should try to see John Handy, if he is still active (he is in his 70s). He's a great player and you can probably see him for next to nothing at an unassuming club, somewhere. You might even get to see him with a group he calls "Class" although I think that phase is over. Class used three female violinists (and singers) as a replacement for a horn section. It was a little shticky, but pretty entertaining. And it was much better live than on a very disappointing recording (released in 1989).
Date: Fri, July 10, 2009, 08:09:42 ET
Posted by: ww, d
Julian Lennon was/is a big SD fan. I wonder if that was an influence on John Lennon using those musicians. I know Herington said in an interview that it was Austin Scaggs who hooked him up with his father.
Date: Fri, July 10, 2009, 07:26:49 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
As always, I went too far. I(italicized) can't name them without digging up some albums.
And thanks for throwing Maceo out there. I've been being held prisoner on the mothaship by the PFunk All-Stars who made me post until he got his due in this most respectable and learned sphere.
Date: Fri, July 10, 2009, 02:23:37 ET
Posted by: horn player names,
In the famous sections-for-hire were names like David Sanborn, Tom Scott, Michael Brecker, Maceo Parker, Randy Brecker, Fred Wesley, Mark Isham, etc.
Since it's hard to play horn and sing simultaneously, horn players never got as much rocknroll attention as pickers, ticklers and bangers. Except maybe Clarence Clemens.
Date: Fri, July 10, 2009, 01:42:48 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Okay. So I guess it's the nature of the rock and roll beast that we can say there ARE great R&R brass players, we mostly just can't name them like we can pickers, ticklers, and bangers.
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 23:13:00 ET
Posted by: super patriot, in the real heartland
nrbq and the whole wheat horns - why these crazy mofos aren't in the hall of fame is a crime. they were rock & roll.
ask mccartney, ask the stones ask raitt, ask dumbass yawn wiener.
lennon was assassinated by a brainwashed government dupe.
SD was "tipped-off" to curtail playing of their best song "fall of 92"
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 22:22:56 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Tangentially from the horns bands thread, when Michael Jackson passed away, one thing led to another and it got me going about when John Lennon was murdered. "Double Fantasy" and "Milk and Honey" have been in regular rotation in my changer in the past couple of weeks. Basically parts one and two, amazing albums with a great large, NYC sound and some great horns: checking the credits, the horns include none other than one Roger Rosenberg. Hugh McCracken, Elliott Randall, and Paul Griffin also play on one or the other of the albums .
How about those horns on "Clean Up Time" and the sax on "Hard Times Are Over"???
Jim
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 22:01:19 ET
Posted by: H, to clarify
Sorry, that was kind of vague. I meant the bass lines on the verses.
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 20:24:05 ET
Posted by: Chan, Boston
Horn Bands---Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 20:17:37 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demento
Horn bands - Chase, Lighthouse, Ides of March, Flock, Dreams.
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 19:44:08 ET
Posted by: Eric Comb,
Anyone -
Any links to SD Band Intros 2009?
Thanks -
Eric C.
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 19:21:49 ET
Posted by: lenny pickett,
Lenny Pickett and the Borneo Horns! I love that recording. Lenny was part of Tower of Power for awhile. Played some Lyricon too.
Another great trombonist plays in the Saturday Night Live Band with Lenny - Steve Turre, who also plays a mean Conch shell.
Also from the late '70s was a fantastic midwest band called Matrix. Three trumpets, two trombones and one tenor/soprano sax, flute player. The horn players doubled on Moog and Oberheim synthesizers.
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 19:00:39 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
Billy Joel 1984 Tour. Horn section was the great New York Affordables.
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 18:51:15 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
How about Lenny Pickett and the Borneo Horns? Too obscure maybe.
The first album he put out under that band name is really interesting. It's just mult-horn parts with a small trap drum set keeping time. It almost hypnotic... layered with brass and saxes and bass and alto clarinets. Pretty cool.
I'll guess Countermoon on the quiz. Kind of repetitive and maybe a little bit similar feel.
Does anybody hear a similarity to the bass line in New Frontier and the bass line in Josie? I just noticed it the other day when I was focusing in on Abraham Laboriels part. The bass tracks on that album blow me away every time. Marcus Miller rules!
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 18:15:29 ET
Posted by: Oh...,
Earth, Wind and Fire
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 18:14:44 ET
Posted by: horn sections,
James Brown!
Average White Band
Kool and the Gang
The Commodores
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 18:01:22 ET
Posted by: rocking horn sections,
Chicago (James Pankow, Lee Loughnane and Walt Parazaider), Blood, Sweat & Tears, The Memphis Horns, Tower of Power, The Brecker Brothers. Bowie, the Stones, and The Beach Boys toured with great horn sections.
Others?
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 17:30:37 ET
Posted by: PGE, Now we dolly back...
Home At Last ... in Padova/Piazzola sul Brenta:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvZcP7zty_4
Don't Take Me Alive ... in Rome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U_bKvdsAmg
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 16:53:27 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Paisanos: Of course my Italian is awful. I made it up. Okay, so is 'suerte' roughly 'lucky'?
Soundboard rec is made plugged into the mix console usually somewhere out in the house SC. The monitor allows a performer a sense of what his performance sounds like in real time without benefit of echo, delay, or doppelganger. The monitors sort of face away from the audience (or toward your bedroom window) as opposed to the thrust of the show to the house. (Not your house; the seats that cost.) A monitor recording is just another one of my stupid concepts.
I thought that anthem to self-abuse WAS Green Flower Street. But I hear GFS in many subsequent songs.
So are there great rock and roll brass players? James Pankow could pump a bone, and that Lee what's-his-name beside him would wail also. Bill Chase? Herb Alpert?
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 16:34:54 ET
Posted by: Lonnie THE Kingpin, La Jolla
Just FYI, Mr. Stamm has been with the Steely Dan Orchestra for the Euro leg of the tour. Mr. Leonhart should be back on the trumpet riser come July 22nd (unless the baby is not born by that time).
Keep it real . . . or whatever!
As always, I am . . .
Lonnie THE Kingpin
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 15:31:45 ET
Posted by: Eric Comb,
Holy shit! Marvin Stamm is touring w/ SD for the next 3 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's an awesome trumpet player! I can't wait to hear him w/ SD!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 11:51:54 ET
Posted by: dm, ;)
What I Do is the most similar to Godwhacker, but it cant be an influence since it came after Godwhacker. Unless Fagen was writing it before 2003.
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 11:43:48 ET
Posted by: Italian, stumper
Oops, I didn't see that Rajah had already identified TWM, and thanks for the translation.
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 11:22:48 ET
Posted by: 10, Milligrams
If Brite Nitegown is the answer I quit.
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 11:08:51 ET
Posted by: lovethisgig, also on Fuse?
...On July 14 at 8 p.m., MSG will air "Steely Dan: Rent Party '09," a special showing group members Walter Becker and Donald Fagen preparing for their summer tour. Fuse will air the show at 10. ...
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2009/07/09/2009-07-09_billy_mays_tribute_set_to_air_on_discovery_channel.html#ixzz0Km6a3p98&C
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 11:01:52 ET
Posted by: Bobbo, with a wild stab (or two) at the Brainstrainer
Hey Brainstrainer,
I've got two, actually, and both quite weak. I hear a bit of a "synch" effect in my head when comparing the "Be very, very quiet" bridge from "Godwhacker" and the intro riff from "IGY"...am I imagining this? Seems like that line could be sung over that riff with only a little shuffling of that rythm--at the same tempo, no less. Call me crazy, right?
For my second stab, I find solid rythmic congruency, a song-length "lick"/phrasing, and even a similar faux-spiritual, other-worldly subject matter evident in "Brite Nightgown".
Can't wait to see which you were referring to...
Okay,
Bobbo
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 10:59:39 ET
Posted by: lovethisgig, atlanta
MSG TV, July 14th, 8:00 pm
http://www.associatedcontent.com/video/470848/steely_dan_rent_party_sneak_peek.html
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 10:58:08 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh ,
OK, which one of you wiseguys is responsible for this bit of creative writing: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474976841369
Worth a laugh or two
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 10:46:44 ET
Posted by: My Guess, here
Green Flower Street. I might have guessed Trans-Island, but I already saw the answer so I can't say for sure.
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 10:34:13 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
Brain Strainer response: Trans Island Skyway. Some similar chord movement and a guitar riff that continues throughout the song, and modulates accordingly.
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 10:18:19 ET
Posted by: Brain Strainer,
Today's Strainer deals with a tune from the New Testament, a certain (sic, or "sick"?)"Godwacker". Where Dan Quayle once insisted on garnishing his potato with an "E", Steely Dan whacks their deities minus an "H". Though Godwacker is thought by some to be primarily a Becker type song, perhaps even more so since we have heard more of his own musical style displayed on Circus Money, this tune is much more derived or influenced sonically from a solo tune recorded by his Steely partner Don Fagen.
Name the tune from Fagen's Trilogy (not boxed set) which exerted a principal influence, intended or not, on Godwacker...
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 09:29:00 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Moondog and PGE,
Thanks so much, I look forward to more.
Moondog, what a day! You are one lucky bastard. Can't wait to see the pics, and read the interview.
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 08:28:22 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
The translation is: "it is the era of the third world."
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 08:06:47 ET
Posted by: Italian, stumper
Third World Man.
He's a third world man (trans.)
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 07:48:12 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Thank you for the reviews, perhaps a little more detail on which players captured you the most but really with this band, who can choose?
Moondog, what a memorable day and night for you, I suppose you won't soon forget it...
E l'era dell terzo mondo, of course, from Third World Man.
Freddy's gesture was very gallant, how nice of him was that?
More please...
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 06:32:17 ET
Posted by: PGE, Day or night, night and day
Please correct previous post: "July 8".
2009. I think. ;)
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 06:27:23 ET
Posted by: PGE, A guest in Piazzola sul Brenta
July 7. Steely Dan. Padova/Piazzola sul Brenta
Did I jot down the setlist? No... I was counting on someone handier with enjoying as show while simultaneously handing pen and paper.
Did try to recall what was played and this is what I came up with. A first draft that should be corrected:
Opening and ending instrumentals as previous shows. Then followed
Time Out Of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Bad Sneakers
Two Against Nature
Black Friday
Aja
Hey Nineteen
Parker's Band
Babylon Sisters
Glamour Profession
Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More
Green Earrings
Love is Like an Itchin' In My Heart + intros
Peg
Encores:
Kid Charlemagne
Not one to dissect the shows I attend I should still be able to get some general overview of the Piazzola gig once I've recuperated from whatever I need recuperating from.
OK. Back into the shade... And where's that water?
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 06:16:37 ET
Posted by: Moondog, Piazzola sul Brenta, Padova, Italy
Rubes
errr...what's a monitor recording? and what's a soundboard recording?...???
Your Italian, my dear Sir, is truly awful..
Which brings me to a little quiz..
In which SD song is there a line sung in Italian, and what is said phrase?
The prize is a bedroom view of the James Taylor concert..(featuring Steve Gadd)!!
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 05:57:39 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Moondog, I was just thinking that, given the setup, you might have made a monitor recording as opposed to a soundboard recording?
On show days I get sorta side-tracked(?) and start thinking RIGHT.
I've been working on my pigeon Italian: Perro luno: lei nombre es, Signor Suerte.
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 04:36:55 ET
Posted by: Moondog, Piazzola sul Brenta, Padova, Italy
You know Reuben..it never crossed my mind to make any sort of recording..!! I think I was just too caught up with the excitement of it all..Although I could see the stage from my old bedroom the view was little obscured and the acoustics good but not perfect. I wasn't going to let the opportunity of seeing the Dan live in my little hometown pass me by so I did actually have (ninth row) tickets..from were I was sat I could see my Mum going backwards and forwards looking out occasionally.. I remember thinking at the time.."How cool is this"..
I used listen to the Dan in that tiny bedroom ever since I was nine years old and now they are playing on my doorstep..
Despite its beautiful setting, nothing much happens in this little town (I actually kinda like it that way)..so to have SD play here live is really really very unique and incredible..but get this ..next Wednesday we have James Taylor and his drummer on this tour is Steve Gadd..!!! it just gets better and better..
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 04:23:50 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
You, sir, are a lucky man indeed. And I guess no bedroom bootleg?
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 03:30:27 ET
Posted by: Moondog, Piazzola sul Brenta, Padova, Italy
I spent most of the afternoon "hanging" around the Piazza being a bit of a groupie. It paid off as. I met Jon Herrington, Jim Pugh, all the girls, who were just so friendly and curios about my little town, but the highlight was spending some time with Freddie Washington, we had coffee together, we spoke at length, he even borrowed my wide angle lens to take pictures of our beautiful Piazza. I interviewed him for my jazz-blog (I'll post the link here as soon as I transcribe it) I asked Freddie about his solo album and told him that I hadn't been able to find it in the Italian shops. He promptly went to his dressing room and bought me back a copy and signed it for me. Ready Freddie. A gentleman and a great great musician.
Don and Walt were just "not available" for any kind of interview, meeting or signing of autographs. I think they keep the hassle of touring down to the bare minimum and don't like to get involved to much with "hanging out".
I could see the backstage area from my house. It overlooked it. and I saw Walter hanging around. I shouted down to him and he did manage a wave and a smile..
I got some great personal pics with the band members I met.
The gig itself was great despite the relatively small crowd who were a little slow to warm up but managed to show their appreciation as the gig went on.
We all flooded the (bottom of) the stage for the encore the girls, recognizing me from the afternoon meeting kept waving and pointing and smiling to me as I was dancing in the front row..Magic.
The set list I don't remember didn't jot down put pretty much on par as the other European gigs... many highlights for me ..too many to mention..
I had a truly wonderful day in the company of some very great warm and friendly musicians.
I am hoarse today from all the shouting I did..but a very very happy Moondog
Date: Thurs, July 09, 2009, 00:33:50 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
JJ: Never AGAIN say that.
Mr. The Dean: Dumb luck. If I'm involved it's dumb something. It was the 1st 'walk on by' that popped into my head, and the next thing was the Diamonds or whoever with: 'By I'll scroll. Scroll across the floor.' Then after I thought a second (I type real slow) I saw Mick Jagger in football (toreador) pants strutting around singing, 'I know. It's right by I will scroll. And I like it.'
Then I thought this is none of my damned business, but who can resist abeyance? I wonder if that's in the OEDILF yet.
At this time of day, I hope Moondog is curled up around that Wohlensack in his bed-- or with one of the people Biff nor I could ever hope to come into contact with through this http. Y'know, somebody nice, a 'true beleiver' like Mrs. Moondog.
Date: Wed, July 08, 2009, 23:44:01 ET
Posted by: anymanleft, rio grande
Date: Wed, July 08, 2009, 23:09:25 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Reuben,
How did you know Dionne Warwick was one of my childhood favorites? I still absolutely love the stuff she did with Bacharach and David.
As for the "guess what I am thinking about" game, I have yet to play (I think), and won't start now. But since I have already exposed the egocentric nature of the "quiz", I will refrain from doing so, again.
Wonder how our friend Moondog is making out?
Date: Wed, July 08, 2009, 15:49:25 ET
Posted by: J.J. Johnson,
RE: "I never understood back in '93 why WB said the CSDO was rhythmed as music ought to be: "...three saxes; no kazoos; no trumpets..."
That was just WB being his pseudo-supercilious tuff-guy wanna-be self.
DF would never make that statement. Well, not to fret, DF's opinion and taste won out anyway.
Date: Wed, July 08, 2009, 14:08:50 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
The other side of the koen: If The Dean takes Dionne out walking on the dunes where a post falls on deaf ears, will he be obeying an abeyance, or just scrolling on by?
Moondog: Did you set up recording equipment on your nightstand?
Biff MD: Did you fill your seat(?) yet?
In the future just machines will make the big decision that if nothing else, DF could arrange some wicked good background vocal.
Date: Wed, July 08, 2009, 14:05:06 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando
Raj--
I read over your latest below and caught the phrase "harmonic dissonance" as a reference to the back-up singers (and I suppose the back-up singers relative to DF, also). I think that observaton is spot on, and I will add this to the mix.
Part of the Dan's motif to me has always been COGNITIVE dissonance, the realization down the road that you don't like what you've done, what you've had, or where you are going. In every day life, advertisers put those little notes in with your dress shirts, congratulating you on your fine choice of clothing, to reinforce your purchase so you don't bring the damn thing back.
In terms of Steely Dan, think of Dirty Work, Black Cow, Hey 19, Deacon Blues, Lunch with Gina, Everything Must Go. All these songs share at least one major theme: regret.
Like the tension between voices, many a Dan song is about the tension between where the character is and where he might have been with a different choice. Whether he realized it at the time (Black Cow) or not (Everything Must Go).
Date: Wed, July 08, 2009, 13:59:30 ET
Posted by: trombone solos,
Tommy Dorsey colored within the lines appropriate to the music.
Jim Pugh is a master musician, no doubt, but I have to agree with the Roman opinion that the solos are just practice-room bebop exercises. Pugh is so good that he can't help playing and he seems to forget about the song.
Imagine if Wayne Shorter, Pete Christlieb or Larry Carlton had played as far outside as Pugh. Phil Woods played outside on Wu, but it was totally original and appropriate for the song.
Marvin Stamm is also a master musician who knows how to improve the song. ML is still a pup.
Date: Wed, July 08, 2009, 13:33:47 ET
Posted by: Brain Strainer,
The next Strainer (difficulty level 6.5) will come out within 24 hours or so and WILL involve the Fagen "Trilogy", as it were. So it might be worth a spin of those discs in order to make ready. I do this especially for The Dean, so he will have a fair chance at it to try and get his first points on the board. And, as a corollary, to obviate or preclude in the event of unsuccessful outcome on his part, that he will hold his requisite anti-Strainer/Hemorrhager diatribe in abeyance as well....
Date: Wed, July 08, 2009, 13:12:12 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Moondog, how I envy you this evening, I hope you give us all the details...
Al&Gas, I remember you, and your post reveals two gentle and experienced spirits, bravi. Please give us your thoughts later...
Harmonic dissonance is Steely Dan's stock in trade. None better than the girls display on the the chorus to Reelin' in the Years as performed the other night. Harmony with tension that seems to be pulling itself apart but which in fact has the effect on the ear of drawing you closer. Weil & Brecht were the modern masters. Another discussion for another time...
Viva gli Italiani sta sera.
Date: Wed, July 08, 2009, 11:33:01 ET
Posted by: web, key
I would get a little homophobic if DF were singing a renamed Peg for me. I'll keep my $232.
http://www.herald-review.com/blogs/timcain/?p=1366
Date: Wed, July 08, 2009, 10:59:06 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
I never understood back in '93 why WB said the CSDO was rhythmed as music ought to be: "...three saxes; no kazoos; no trumpets..."
And o'course there was nothing like that vibraphone.
My brother the composer says that sometimes dissonant harmony is the best harmony-- depending on how the staffs are stacking up and where the various countering scales are rubbing shoulders.
Date: Wed, July 08, 2009, 10:28:02 ET
Posted by: Al&Gas, Padova, Italy
Uh oh, is there anybody out there that remembers us from the glorious days? Hi Jim, we used to wander here quite a lot in the past, I never quit reading the digest though I didn't write too much lately. Now we finally are two old farts as well (time has no mercy) and we'll be tonight in Piazzola to hear the boys play, right out our windows as Moondog appropriately says. I'll be wearing my Art Crimes t-shirt and Walt, if you are curious to check what's the effect of long time listening to SD music on two Italian turtles just say it and Gas and I we'll be in the backstage.
Long live the digest, long live SD
Al&Gas
Date: Wed, July 08, 2009, 10:12:10 ET
Posted by: Moondog, Piazzola sul Brenta, Padova, Italy
Just spoke to Jon Herrington..all the band has arrived except Don & Walt. Jon was very cordial and we exchanged a few words. we spoke about his solo albums and how difficult they are to find in Italy..he said the band are really enjoying Italy and is looking forward to tonight..I also spoke to the production manager and he said the is no way D & W would grant me an interview..it has to be ok'd weeks before..so no chance there.. I have a huge Left Bank Holiday Poster and he said they they may agree to sign it for me....
I hope all this activity doesn-t distract me from the main event..Steely Dan will be playing outside my bedroom window tonight..unbelievable..
Date: Wed, July 08, 2009, 09:32:22 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Good luck, Moondog. I hope you get the interview.
Just make sure you get us an English translation, OK?
Date: Wed, July 08, 2009, 05:30:39 ET
Posted by: Moondog, Piazzola sul Brenta, Padova, Italy
I've just been down to tonights venue in Piazzola, Padova. and spoke to the truck driver whose already arrived with the gear.
There may be a chance I get to meet the band and do a small interview with them. (I write for an italian jazz-blog).
Would be great if I could get to meet D & W..let you know how it pans out..
r
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 23:25:21 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, .
Hoops - Happy belated bithday! I don't know why I did not read the Blue the last few days! Hope you had a great day. And I hope you can make it out to Beantown!
Mark in Boston
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 22:40:41 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
"Who needs trombone solos anyway?"
Tommy Dorsey?
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 21:36:14 ET
Posted by: A thought, further
It's not the sour notes that makes it bebop, or the mambee pambeeing of you're playing that forces it into top 40, it's what's right for the gig (Chick would not be a good call for the keyboard chair in SD). Pugh does seem to overdo it. If his playing approach were beemed over to Jon Herington, all these blue posters who are complaining about Jon's blandness would think this would be an improvement. I would disagree. I think the fact that Jon is antic and bullshit free is one of his strongest attributes.
BTW, who needs trombone solos anyway?
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 21:26:26 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Definition of a trombone:
A manually operated, wind driven pitch approximation machine.
It's an old joke and, of course, the "pitch approximation" part certainly does not apply to Mr. Pugh.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 21:05:32 ET
Posted by: Eric Comb,
Raj, et al:
PLEASE do yourselves a favor and download the MP3 for $.99 featuring Jimmy Pugh's gorgeous rendition of "The Meaning of the Blues" on Woody Herman's Grammy Award winning LP/CD "Giant Steps".
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_dmusic?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&field-keywords=woody+herman+-+the+meaning+of+the+blues&x=20&y=25
He wss my inspiration in the early 70's. I met him when he was touring w/ Chick Corea in '78. What a hellava nice person!
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 20:57:16 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Raj, how about the Theremin?
:@)
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 20:43:52 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Take it away Dandom buy for me the only instruments as difficult as the bone are the violin and the singing voice...they are completely bereft of points of reference...no frets, no nothin'.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 20:40:18 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Raj,
I noticed that Pugh was exceptionally brilliant, at the show I saw, this tour. I understand that the intentionally "sour" notes are an acquired taste, and it takes effort and some knowledge to understand and appreciate them. I don't know if it was my finally catching up to Pugh's solos or him rounding them out, a bit more. Perhaps it was some of each.
But, on the whole, music that doesn't take some work to fully appreciate, that doesn't grow with you and change with repeated listening, isn't really worth much, to me.
It takes some people a while to get that, and some will never get it. That's why there is top 40 radio, and bad rock.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 19:51:10 ET
Posted by: A thought, Re;
Jim Pugh, Rajah.
They (your friends) might be right. Strong on the muscle flexing, feather fluffing - weak on the music making?
Thoughts Demento?
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 19:37:47 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Stickler for good pitch? Cripes you should have heard the bitching my Italian gave me last night upon that self-same subject. They are weaned on the, "bell'canto," la , "bella musica," where every passage ends in a perfectly resolved major, all things neat and tidy. But trying to convince them that the very soul of bebop and hard bop was nothing less than a rebellion against that notion and showed us there were other options was, I fear, a losing argument. My people also thought Jim Pugh was out of bounds on his solos, they were, they posited, so painted outside the lines of the melody at times as to jar the whole structure of the piece. Trying to convince them that he was doing this as an artistic choice and not as a major cock-up cost me two rounds of drinks afterwards. And I'm afraid I lost that argument.
Free your mind, as the song says, the rest will follow. My best advise.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 17:27:17 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
I guess that's cool. I'm just a stickler for good pitch I guess.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 17:21:06 ET
Posted by: Rajah, G8
Greg M - a matter of taste but I simply love it when Donald goes flat like that, or drops to a minor, it's so bebop, like on that great clip of last night's, AJA, thank you kzkzkz, which was perfect, I thought, "they-iii-ee juuuuuust don't...two, three, four...kkaaaire," I live for that kind of stuff from Donald.
Start thinking outside the box of their records, Greg, do you have a copy of Eric Dolphy's, Out to Lunch? Get one and suffer through about 5 audits of it and get back to me. How can you love something so cacaphonous? Beats me but it occurs.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 17:17:01 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour
kzkzkz,
Thanks for the tip on the Rome vids. I kind of dig the blue effect, on Aja.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 17:12:42 ET
Posted by: Biff MD, Florence, on my way to Perugia...
Rajah:
"The Roman audience was quiet and attentive, clapping in all the right places, no singing, no dancing, no shouting. Gave Donald two standing O's. Too bad he couldn't have taken two seconds to learn to say, "buona sera, Roma." They like things like that. Great show but they need to sharpen up some diplomatic skills for Italy. They appreciate the niceties and the subtlties"
I hope & pray this is how it will go at the Perugia gig. I've had some (very) bad experiences with Italian audiences, waving lighters is a staple, they even did it during an uptempo Prefab Sprout number at a gig in Milan years ago. It looks like there are still plenty seats available for Perugia (at least the online ticket page's layout plan shows it that way) but many a past gig at the Santa Giuliana Arena, an open-air venue, has usually ended up fairly full on the night. Although 2 years ago, Keith Jarret's haughty, verbal assault directed at those who even pondered pulling out a camera, and all before he even sat down at the piano, upset quite a few...who either got up and left immediately, or never returned after the interval. So a "Buona sera Perugia" or "Buona sera Umbria Jazz" or "Good evening Perugia" or even a simple "Ciao!" from DF would be far more welcome, and just before the band launch into the first number.
Same goes for 2 other gigs, one by the entire Pat Metheny Group, another by the Pat Metheny Trio. I'm already getting nervous even thinking about it happening in Perugia... please tell me I'm wrong..
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 16:57:33 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY
<<<<[Donald] actually had the control at the end of certain passages to bend notes, to turn the old, "love's not a game for thre...," on which he used to just fade out by moving away from the mic to staying with it and giving us a, "love's not a game for three-ee-ee-eee-eeee." This guy's been training, I thought.>>>>
Well, call me crazy, but I am one that does not like Donald's new habit of holding these notes. "People never stare, they just dont carrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre," is another one.
And it happens in a bunch of other places, too. IMO this has been occurring since 2003; not just on this tour. I like the tight sharp endings of phrases.
Thing is, The Donald often goes flat or sharp when he holds those notes.
Consider the Youtube video of Gaucho from earlier this tour. "I'll scratch your back you can scratch miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine" It drops way flat! Doesn't help that he appears to lose some concentration on the note as he looks down at his lyric sheet to fish for the next line to read -- as he's holding the note. You can clearly see that in the video.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 16:33:30 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, nnnyyyccc
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIv9lR_3Bp8&feature=related
Rome (last night)(brilliant) AJA. Video a little off but the sound is as good as any others out there. Uploader webmdf deserves many thanks from us. Enjoy.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 16:22:51 ET
Posted by: Rajah, Abruzzo
The Cavea was almost full, it's a classic open-air Greek style amphitheatre, two levels, about 10 years old with marvelous acoustics. The band took to the upstage end of the very expansive 3 quarter thrust stage and I swear there must have been some baffles and echo chambers built in there cause Donald sounded great for 90 percent of the show. The monitoring system is supplied by the house on the periphery of the stage and it was primo. Donald must perforce be working with a voice teacher cause he didn't waste breath by shouting or squeezing from the throat, he actually had the control at the end of certain passages to bend notes, to turn the old, "love's not a game for thre...," on which he used to just fade out by moving away from the mic to staying with it and giving us a, "love's not a game for three-ee-ee-eee-eeee." This guy's been training, I thought. The crowd loved Donald, they knew they were in the presence of a Maestro. The DF and the band did not leave the stage at the end of regulation, Donald just stood there stock still and accepted the standing O then sat back down and said they had time for a couple more. He showed some Rico Suave style there. Then he got to the encores and unfortuneatly bit down on them some, he gets excited in such a strange way sometimes. So he strangled the tender reeds at the end. But by that time the crowd was frozen in awe of the band and let it slide. When Pavarotti pulled this kind of fare-thee-well at the end of his career the crowd used to do what Italian audiences do when they're non-plussed: they whistled.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 14:52:04 ET
Posted by: Rajah, Roma
Dean, your tenacity is admirable but, finally, Marvin Stamm is Marvin Stamm and Micheal Leonhart is Michael Leonhart.
There is no comparison to be made other than that. We agree, as usual.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 13:45:17 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
"So, comparing Stamm to Dizz tells us...what?"
Dunno. Not worth anything, IMO, which is one reason I have stayed away from it.
If anything I was comparing pre-2008 Leonhart to the Michael Lenonhart on the 2008 tour...dramatically different, IMO. I wouldn't say ML was beat with the Dizzy stick...maybe the Bix Beiderbecke stick, or the Red Rodney baton, or the Nat Adderley club.
:#)
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 13:36:43 ET
Posted by: Rajah, Roma
I saw Dizzy around 1980 in DC when he was maybe 63 or so, what happened to his facial cavities as he replenished his breath was like watching an episode of the Wild Kingdom on frogs or toads.
So, comparing Stamm to Dizz tells us...what?
No I haven't seen Michael Leonhart since 2007, somebody hit him with a Dizzy stick since then er sompin'? He's great, he just isn't Marvin Stammm...and why would he want to be. They are two artists at opposite ends of their career.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 13:27:35 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
I understand, Rajah...and that's why I would love to see him with the band. I saw Dizzy in his 70's, not long before he died, and he was awesome.
I just wasn't certain if you saw the boys last year, as the showcasing of Leonhart was fairly obvious, and he met the challenge.
I never could get much of anything from a trumpet, or a sax. My grandfather could play a hell of a licorice stick, so I could make some noise with the clarinet.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 13:16:33 ET
Posted by: mr parker, socal
re: onstage patter
i heard bobby tell this joke a couple of times
http://www3.clearlight.com/~acsa/introjs.htm?/~acsa/songfile/YELLOWDO.HTM
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 13:10:55 ET
Posted by: Rajah, Roma
Michael Leonhart is a gifted horn player and musician, I've had the privilege of witnessing him many times over the years. But Marvin Stamm is incomparable at this point in his long and storied career. He's recorded with so many jazz greats, Oliver Nelson too, BTW, I wonder if that was him on the original, Teenie's Blues...anybody know? His performance last night was bright as a diamond. He pulled out a mute at one point...like butta...
Did I mention he has to be in his 70s? Ever try to blow into a trumpet out there? Takes a diaphram of Herculean tensile strength. To still deliver like he does at 70 is something rare, I would offer.
Maybe that's why Donald introduced him as, "the great Marvin Stamm."
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 11:58:32 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Rajah,
Nice report. Thanks
I'd love to catch Marvin Stamm (BTW, nice link, search) with the boys. But, if you missed last year's tour, you missed Michael's coming out party. ML smoked, last year. They really showed him off, and he killed.
This year, at least in the states, the solos have been kept to a minimum...based on the show I saw and the reports of others.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 09:33:16 ET
Posted by: search, key
Found this on Marvin Stamm's website.
http://www.marvinstamm.com/Cadenzas.EditionXXIX.html#Morphing%20into%20Steely%20Dan
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 08:20:37 ET
Posted by: Moondog, Piazzola sul Brenta, Padova, Italy
.from the Rome setlist."Don't take me alive" ..one of my favourites .. I hope it they play tomorrow night in Piazzola..
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 06:25:39 ET
Posted by: Rajah, Roma
The Rome show was quite longer than expected, take the
Montreaux setlist and add Home at Last, Bad Sneakers, Don't Take Me Alive, Green Earrings and the first of the two encores which I can't recall right now, something before Kid Charlemagne...
I brought a party of nine, all Italians save for one Aussie and they were duly impressed by the band, not so much so the principals. The arrangement of Reelin' is simply great, funky blues, in fact I stopped to reflect on how all the arrangements have evolved now over the years, thr rock has given way to the jazz just as I hoped it would eventually.
Marvin Stamm, James Beard and Tawatha Agee, Janice Pendarvis and Catherine Russell have transformed this band since last I saw them, this is their best and most seasoned lineup yet. Marvin Stamm is paces ahead of Michael Leonhart, no knock there, he's just such an old pro, he dominates the horn section with his old school approach. James Beard is everything that was advertised and Donald didn't have to do too much at the Rhodes with him around.
The three women are in synch with each other, no games, just seamless teamwork. Tawatha is very solid, she's a real find.
Donald sounded great until the encores and then was heard to be audibly tired by my party, he's back on the coca-cola and that's just a big no-no. Walter's voice struck my people's ears like your Dad's country uncle who gets up and sings at the BBQ, he shouldn't be allowed near a live mic but his playing was primo, all the solos except for the guitar-hero stuff, just great but I was told he should rethink his onstage wordrobe. He dresses like the plumber.
The Roman audience was quiet and attentive, clapping in all the right places, no singing, no dancing, no shouting. Gave Donald two standing O's. Too bad he couldn't have taken two seconds to learn to say, "buona sera, Roma." They like things like that. Great show but they need to sharpen up some diplomatic skills for Italy. They appreciate the niceties and the subtlties.
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 00:29:10 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @
Happy birthday Hoops!
The host with the most!
KC
Date: Tues, July 07, 2009, 00:09:21 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
Damn...8 minutes too late!
Happy birthday, Hoops! ("And many more!")
Keep reelin' in those years, man!
Cheers!
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 23:34:08 ET
Posted by: sue, veneer
boca sounds pretty good. not a SB, though.
the first tour walt did the rap it was good. TIRED.
walt instead of fooling around you could do a quick kulle babba!
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 23:33:55 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland
Another year...another tour...another birthday.
Savor your birthday like the Internet Request Show in Chicago, Hoops.
Thanx for the bluebook.
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 23:32:15 ET
Posted by: Bobbo, ...Fer Yer Birthday, Blue!
Hey Hoops,
Best wishes for your birthday, bro...and thanks for all you do! Love and Peace from your fan down South.
Okay,
Bobbo
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 23:29:46 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Hey, thanks for the birthday wishes.
Means a lot, especially this year.
Thanks for what you bring here.
Here's to our friendship and many more years of it.
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 23:04:24 ET
Posted by: Josey, St. Simons Island
Would also like to wish Hoops a Happy Birthday!! Thanks for giving us the space!
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 22:22:03 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
Anyone happen upon a high-quality souvenear yet ?
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 21:17:45 ET
Posted by: hemiola, BlueBook is always the first read in the AM
Dear Hoops,
Happy Birthday and big thanks for the Blue!!
hemi
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 20:09:27 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Happy Birthday Hoops!
I'll also take the opportunity to thank you, once again, for keeping the lights on here.
As for the stage patter, we are on the same page. I have always thought the Hey 19 shtick was kind of lame. It's better, and seemingly a little less forced in some shows, but overall it's one of the very few things I would change about a SD show.
As you note, it can work for someone like Cohen, but for most it is nearly always a turn off when they start to chat. Shut the fuck up, and play the music...that's my philosophy.
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 16:58:24 ET
Posted by: T, Avignon
My first Montreux setlist (july 5) was wrong…
I apologize to all the dandom (thanks to wharfrat77ch).
Definitely,
Montreux setlist :
Teenie's Blues
Reelin In The Years (new version)
Time Out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Two Against Nature
Black Friday
Aja
Hey 19
Parker's Band
Babylon Sisters
Glamour Profession
Daddy Don't Live
Love is Like an Itchin In My Heart + intros
Josie
Peg
Encores:
Kid Charlemagne
Last Tango in Paris
The show was filmed like all the performances at Montreux Jazz Festival.
I found the whole band very concentrated.
The result was really beautiful on the two screens of the stage.
My feeling is that an official video could be a possibility in the future.
But it’s just my feeling…
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 16:55:28 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
And a "Happy Birthday" comin' your way from the cornfields, Hoops!
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 16:09:23 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Hoops -
you are the man!
Thanks for this "space", your good will all year thru!
Happy B'day too!!! "
Yes, Happy Happy Birthday Hoopsie !!!!
J.
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 15:18:50 ET
Posted by: A,
Donald on our Secret Society. And Jazz. And jaz.
http://irom.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/q-a-donald-fagen/
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 15:13:02 ET
Posted by: A,
Donald on our Secret Society.
http://irom.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/q-a-donald-fagen/
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 15:07:42 ET
Posted by: angel,
Wow, try to have a conversation and instead I find out that Donald and Walter are Steely Dan... Who knew? ;-)
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 14:15:28 ET
Posted by: Al Limps,
Hoops -
you are the man!
Thanks for this "space", your good will all year thru!
Happy B'day too!!!
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 13:53:51 ET
Posted by: freewheelin, numinus
mix of the blue and brown in good shape.
HARDY BOYZ
(as always check the email)
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 13:47:06 ET
Posted by: fanTAStic,
Happy Birthday, Hoops!
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 12:51:05 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
St. Augustine helped many people who felt uncomfortable with evangelism by encouraging more or less "...preach the Gospel constantly; if necessary, use words..." He may also have said earlier in his career: if there's grass in the field, play ball.
Music has always been focus of the shows which makes it much easier for those of us transcribing any patter, but that is the main factor in worrying how the books are cooked for 'you pick 'em, they'll play 'em' nights. Do you suppose sound checks are used for practice on some of the possibilities that haven't yet seen the light of twi on this still young(?) tour?
Freewheelin: assuming your HB books are Grossett and Dunlap, are they the blue covers or the older brown ones. What kind of condition are they in? If it helps with the Doctorow, my wife, the educator, thinks the narrator is "bratty."
She also will remove Bob Marley from the alarm CD and insert 'Pink Moon' on occasion.
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 12:41:52 ET
Posted by: kramit, Vermont
Going to the AJA show at the WANG in Boston, my 15 yr old son is an absolute SD freak...my fault of course! He likes Dr Dre & RATT 2, so go figure-- I have taken him to Dan shows since he was 10, like 4 shows in all...pretty kool...have always stopped by this site before the shows to read the posts, great site---my question is..."Does anyone know what "other songs" might be played during the AJA show? Also, is it played in the same order as the album?? These might be obvious questions that have been discussed but any help would be appreciated!
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 12:06:03 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Al Limps:
SHHHHHH!!!! Please, please, please, don't even encourage the thought of their restoring the patter! This isn't Sonny and Cher, although it might be amusing if Walter and Donald walked out for the encore holding hands with Chaz Bono in the middle.
I would say, "Don't get me started," but I already am started.
I regularly go to shows by Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, Joe Jackson, (when they were around) the Grateful Dead, and not so regularly, Paul Simon. The patter is to a minimum AND IT'S GREAT! I can't remember the last Bob Dylan show that I was at where he said anything beyond the name of who was playing. Ditto for Van and the Grateful Dead. The only talking I remember at a Grateful Dead show was right before intermission when Bob Weir would say, "We'll be right back..." I didn't even know what Jerry Garcia's speaking voice was like until after about four or five years of attending shows, when I saw him in a TV interview.
What's so great about no patter? It's all wall to wall music, great momentum. And on a minor point, if you don't know the seven classic studio albums by now, figure it out, geezz.
There's one exception, IMHO: Leonard Cohen's chit-chat was a little more than usual than I would expect, but he was the exception because 1) some of his "songs" are more readings than singing anyways, and 2) his material is very, very good: Example: "I think of my songs as 'music to slit your wrists by'." And while I am being tangential, during "The Future", Cohen's two white backup singers suddenly do a back flip out of nowwhere when they sing, "And the white girls dancing" while the one black girl does not. He pulls all his try literary, musical and comic talent together somehow.
Now there have been some great moments in Steely Dan patter history. At a shed show at twilight like DTS/Pine Knob near Detroit: "It's getting dark and scary out there. Speaking of dark and scary, here's my partner Walter Becker..." And then there have been duds: "It's nice to play Poplar Creek! I hear it's a very popular creek!" And there have been some moments: WB has, overall, re-freshened the "Hey Nineteen" bit in the middle to the point where there's a chance it will be pretty clever. My favorite was one of the Boston shows in 2007 where Walter had everyone ROFL, along with a few gasps, talking about killing his date's cat and taking "a dump in her purse." On the other hand, it's been kind of a dud at the Chicago shows.
But what drove me nuts above all was Donald talking over the beginning "Janie Runaway" in 2000. I have never experienced more annoying talk. There was the great opening chord progression, and then, in the space where the groove starts to take over but before "It must have been my lucky Thursday..." someone starts talking over the music, stating how this is from Steely Dan's new album 2vN. Tensing up, ready to tell the person next to me to shut the fuck up so I could hear the song, I then realize it's DONALD interrupting the song. It went on like this for almost every show I saw that year. Sure, explain that the new song is from a new album, but DON'T INTERRUPT THE SONG! Let me clarify, this is about the only time I think I know better than Donald!!! :-)
Soooooooo...after wishing for it for so many years, my favorite part of last year's tour was vast reduction in the amount of patter.
More than a few complain that the set lists are too similar during the past four years, but I have to say again, my favorite parts of the shows in the past four years have been the perfected, impeccable playing, and the lack of stage chatter interrupting the best-ever playing.
Please, please, please. Donald and Walter got it right...less patter...a lot less patter. It's about the perfect music.
I better take a beta-blocker before I have a heart attack. :-)
--Jim
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 10:38:30 ET
Posted by: wharfrat77ch, Switzerland
Thanks for the Montreux setlist. I was curious what the intro and outro tunes were. They were familiar, but couldn't place them.
There are two mistakes in the setlist however. They didn't play My Old School or Deacon Blues, two songs that I'd hope they would play.
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 10:18:27 ET
Posted by: wormtom, nola
even better than a montreaux show to video would be the album nights and request nights from NYC, Boston and Chicago
I'd choose NYC for the setting and great fan base
actually I'd like four straight shows on a blu ray box set
Scam, Aja, Gaucho, and Internet faves
one can dream can't they?
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 10:16:52 ET
Posted by: Al Limps,
I noticed that there's less and less commentary/verbal banter made by DF/WB during the live shows. Things don't as seem fresh and enjoyable for them now somehow.
Maybe a sign of complacency/old age? :)
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 10:15:13 ET
Posted by: wormtom, nola
glad to hear the cameras were rolling at Montreaux
I have the Yes Live Blu Ray from there and it is stellar
I really think the Dan were going to release the 2003 Detroit show, but Don wasn't happy with his vocals that night
I liked the setlist better then - more deep cuts
A BLU Ray of Montreaux 2009 would be stellar! cough it up guys
any Nick Drake fans out there?
Away We Go is a real charming movie with most of the songs by Alexi Murdoch, the soundtrack and his other album are stellar
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 09:35:31 ET
Posted by: red, blazer
11 - too young.
thank you for the history lesson raji!
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 05:08:37 ET
Posted by: Rajah, Roma
There's always room for another nutjob on here, I agree.
Somebody asked about the, "St. Augustine was right," line from...I can't even remember now, was it one of those, oh, Kulee Baba, yes?
St. Augustine's main themes were that we all tend toward evil. His early life spent as a follower of Manicheanism relied heavily on the concept of good and evil, darkness and light, and that these were the ruling concepts of our lives here on earth. He had two underage concubines, well, what was under age in the 4th century, who knows but the second one was rumored to be 11 years old and that should qualify as underage in any society. But who are we to judge. His famous quote around this time was, "grant me chastity and continence, but not yet" He then, shazzam, became a Catholic, dumped the girls and in short order became a Bishop of the Church. The later thing he said I just loved, something about being very wary of, "mathemeticians," which I take to mean science in general which robbed mankind of all mystery and, by entention maybe faith in things like Jesus coming back from the dead. Yeah, that's the one that first springs to mind.
So pick what you want from any of that, the guy most certainly was right.
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 04:44:00 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
Also,for what it's worth...the posts of the last many days have been different, and welcome.
Whether it's stream o' consciousness or obscure references or little stories with little parts left out (hey, who else does that ?) there's space for it.
Date: Mon, July 06, 2009, 00:13:34 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, bed time
If it makes anyone feel any better, I haven't been able to understand at least half the posts in the past several days.
On more than a few occasions I've covered the "spectrum" of the various guitar playing of the different SD players through the years. I'm sitting on the side seeing what I can learn this time.
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 23:13:23 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Uh, yeah. Sorry about all that. I knew I shouldn't have wasted that $ on perfect strangers.
Beleive it or don't, but most of us are subject to whiz quiz, so unlike our old school, it's probably a lack of drugs that keeps us thataway. Well, there's that and boorishness.
Man, that Holdsworth guy can play, but it seems like a lot of playing for playing's sake. I'm sure I was just too dim to pick out the tune which is ordinarily a B/F staple.
And wasn't the melodica invented so that an old bluesman could play a suite with subtle key changes in it without having to fish around for a new harp and ending up with a mouth organ instead?
I don't mind speaking out of yeshiva, but I overheard some suits talking about a new RITY and replacing Jon H. and Roger R. and takin' it to the seats and such, so I just had to schlep along. Short story long: What you see (hear) is what you get, and surprise(!); you shouldn't be surprised. Same guitar player? Same program? Same H19 travelogue? New and inferior(?) arrangements? Tour miss the Great Plains? Can't afford the tariff? Yada the yada up my yada? It's not an accident.
The shot calling pair probably scores about what they want.
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 22:40:46 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
Oh, I'm with you Dean on all counts. My frustration stems from reading what would appear to be a thoughtful, well-reasoned post and realizing that I didn't understand any of it, including whatever the basic premise of the post was. But what the hell. Go with the flow, have another glass of wine, and wait for the Chicago concerts. It's summer in the US of A, so I'll stop my bitching.
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 22:39:04 ET
Posted by: web search, keyboard
DF is quoted in this story on bands performing albums live.
http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2009/07/05/albums_come_alive_when_bands_now_hit_the_stage/?page=2
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 22:19:01 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Dr Wu,
I don't understand half of some of those posts either. But they amuse me, just the same, for some reason. I guess I could attempt to decipher the code, but that's too much work for a message board. If they added some intriguing cord changes, some horns and the babe choir, it might be worth my while.
"worth my while"...what an odd expression.
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 21:31:08 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
Either I'm not doing enough drugs, or some of you people are doing WAAY to many...
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 19:53:39 ET
Posted by: Those_Frenetic_Licks_, In_Green_Earrings
Provincial, that was no dog; that was a Savannah, a breed of cat. At least Sophie appears to be. You of all beings should have recognized her as a denizen of your beloved Mizar system. She will not be marrying in the forseeable future. Having glimpsed enough of the unconditioned to be rightly called "Stream Winner", within at most 7 more lifetimes she she will be able to choose whether to manifest at all. This is not to say she will not employ tantric methods. But a domestic situation would surprise us all. We will bring her to Memphis and if she deigns the Madison suitable you will receive your nephrotic rainment in abundance. You will smell like frankincense. Sophie has promised me kopi luwak.
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 19:26:37 ET
Posted by: T, Avignon
Montreux setlist:
Teenie's Blues
Reelin In The Years (new version)
Time Out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
My Old School
Bad Sneakers
Two Against Nature
Black Friday
Aja
Hey 19
Parker's Band
Babylon Sisters
Glamour Profession
Daddy Don't Live
Deacon Blues
Love is Like an Itchin In My Heart + intros
Josie
Peg
Encores:
Kid Charlemagne
Last Tango in Paris
Same setlist as Paris and Birmingham less FM :
The show was filmed like all the performances at Montreux Jazz Festival.
I found the whole band very concentrated.
The result was really beautiful on the two screens of the stage.
My feeling is that an official video could be a possibility in the future.
But it’s just my feeling…
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 18:32:00 ET
Posted by: Dokta Biff, Florence, Italy
Jaydee: got a good giggle out of that NHS swipe, but I'm hoping to work my way up the medical ladder and become a surgeon: so I can remove the brains (I use the term ever so loosely) from the (very) odd poster on the Bluebook. Or at least perform a frontal lobotomy (no 'bottle in front of me' jokes please), if not on those posters then on myself, I suppose. Tell you what though, George Benson & Pat Metheny are also performing at the same jazz festival as SD next week, so those who previously mentioned Pat turning down an offer from SD in the 90's or GB taking the weight off his pencil moustache on Great Pagoda of Funn, might just be hearing about the jam session/improv of a lifetime next week: as long as SD don't get dragged into doing The Greatest Love Of All and/or Gimme The Night...
Biff MD
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 17:41:25 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
freewheelin,
That version of Eight Miles High is pretty good. Pevar can play, but he's no Kottke.
Crosby really looks like he was bashed repeatedly with the ugly stick, doesn't he?
Touching on the Jon H discussion, Jon is probably does the best "all around" job of any guitar player the band has had, since Zingg. There are plenty of players that can probably do a better job on an individual tune, or two, but like Carlock, Jon is pretty terrific on everything.
Will the time come to replace Jon? Probably. Don and Walt may want a change, or Jon may have other opportunities, where he gets to really show his stuff, and not be in the background. If/when that happens (I'm in no hurry for it) I agree the next guy will likely be a lesser known player, looking to make a reputation. And, since he won't be onstage unless Don and Walt approve, I remain unconcerned about the guitar spot, or any other spot that may change over the years.
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 16:57:22 ET
Posted by: J tropea,
Doc Mu -
All the UK clips sound like Zappa wanna-be compositions. None of those clips "do it" for me because it sounds like they're trying too hard to be "mothers".
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 16:18:11 ET
Posted by: dokta biff, Florence, Italy
Docter Death; hey, do me favour: I'm only still alive coz I've been waiting to see Messrs Becker & Fagen (Walt & Don as they allow me to call them, but I never do). But once the curtain goes down on the gig (who knows what VERY 'provincial' people will make of that) you won't even have to knock: I'll be satisfied, at peace with myself, nay enlightened, and ready to go. Just make sure there isn't a gate policy with 'provincially' cryptic questions, which may bar me from entering Dan heaven...but then, I've already been informed by reliable sources that that's exactly where I'll be next Saturday night: in Dan heaven....and at this point, it's looking like I'll be stretched out over an empty seat on my left (or right, depending on the stage set up)...drinking kirschwasser from a shell.
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 16:03:43 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Holdsworth simply is the master and creator..F&B are big fans, and discussions re: playing on album or tour were serious at some point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbMDjNaizTc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B8A2ZTaKbg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhrKC0b7wKo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQUntzKpLj4&feature=related
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 15:15:11 ET
Posted by: freewheelin, jaker
you want eight miles high; i'll give you eight miles high - with nail polish!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjMon_tO6PQ
somebody wanna buy me a wah wah pedal?
hey i went to buy that book about the catistrophic near-future and it said that it was written for teens. WTF
i got a shit load of hardy boy books to - you want em?
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 14:53:12 ET
Posted by: your new gov. of alaska, KING crab
VOTE zappa/tesh 2012
heyo dino - ever figure out why st. augustine was right?
i hate that term, as a lefty, of course. hey donny, change the line to "st agustine was correct." thank you.
right on: http://www.myspace.com/showbizkids
http://simplyrecipes.com/recipes/kohlrabi/
yours,
ded mcmahon
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 14:20:45 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, OHIO
To Angel and others/ they are all hired hands' Steely Dan has always meant Becker and Fagen. Now if someone can fit the bill better is always spec. For now I will trust the duos judgement because I have never seen a bad band in their capable hands. I would love to hear George Benson on Pagoda of Funn!!
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 14:05:08 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
My take on Jon Herington is that he tries to keep the focus on the main men of the group. His being off to the side and looking down, seems to me to indicate that he is the hired gun, making incredible music, but not taking the spotlight. Now Elliott, I have seen in concert, without Steely Dan and since he "owns" that guitar work, he takes advantage of that fact. He loves playing it and it shows.
BTW: When Jon and Wayne Krantz were touring with Fagen on the Morph the Cat tour, they had some incredible guitar moments, including the infamous Third World Man solo. I still get goosebumps thinking of that one.
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 13:36:32 ET
Posted by: Seaford Adolescent, Snugglin' with Skynard
Anyone who has listened to Kottke's "Eight Miles High" will know that "Bad Sneakers" is no stretch. Besides, anything that keeps me from seeing Fagen's upper lip doing the crawling king snake imitation on the Jumbotron is an added bonus in my book.
"Kottke sing Bad Sneakers? No
Kottke PLAY ANYTHING (including Bad Sneakers)? Hell yes!"
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 13:08:19 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Kottke sing Bad Sneakers? No
Kottke PLAY ANYTHING (including Bad Sneakers)? Hell yes!
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 12:13:14 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Michael,
Holdsworth is a great player and was terrific with Jean Luc Ponty, way back when. Another great former-Ponty guitarist is Daryl Stuermer. Check out his stuff on Ponty's Aurora.
Lutz, no apologies necessary. I think I got your meaning, and I was just doing a little bit of expanding on Carlton. We're on the same page, I think.
poops, very funny post. The melodica Hendrix was quite bizarre. You (and others) might enjoy this little humorous tidbit. Sorry if I have posted it in the past:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k8yL1AXhsI
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 10:51:49 ET
Posted by: michael liva, Champaign
Although this isn't Dan related, I love Holdsworths' humility and playing style; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQUntzKpLj4.
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 10:39:50 ET
Posted by: What happened to the, Setlists?
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 02:24:05 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
I love it. Everything oil is nude agin'.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys on girls:
This is no hill of dun. Props to the picker. Then DF says, This comes from our 'lost album.' At least I lost my copy of it."
And here's a reminder that there's no end in sight (or range of hearing) for that period.
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 02:11:52 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Frenetic, eh? Blue Tarp? Are you that guy who groomed his dog at the 'practice gig' in Memphis when we kicked off the "At last we open a show with 2vN Tour" in 2007? Did you marry her? Did you enjoy the wedding present? As I recall, you people at The Consortium aren't mad scientists-- didn't you classify yourselves as only slightly peaved?
Looking forward to submitting to you in 'the volunteer state.' I think big brother booked us into row 29 sec C and some fleabag hotel called the Madison. I'll be the one standing up wearing urine.
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 02:09:07 ET
Posted by: K, P
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
BBC review of the latest 'Best Of' offering to come out this week/month/year (delete as appropriate)...
Emerging from New York's Brill building in the early 70s, songwriting duo Walter Becker and Donald Fagen were two smart Jewish kids raised on jazz and with a healthy cynicism about the so-called music 'business' and its attendant follies. Landing a deal as staff writers with Capitol they re-located to LA and proceeded to cast themselves as ironic outsiders. This double disc compilation charts their decade-long rise from ultra brainy pop technicians to ultra brainy jazz fusionists.
From the off theirs was no ordinary rock band although the employment of two major guitarists (Jeff 'Skunk' Baxter and Denny Dias) saw them appropriately kitted out to impress a public yearning for wailing axes. Albums Can't Buy A Thrill and Countdown To Ectasy match concise (if knotty) writing with musical dexterity. But still, naming yourselves after a mechanised dildo from a Burroughs' novel and writing songs about dissatisfied gigolos (Dirty Work), Buddhist philosophy (Bodhisattva), economic ruin (Black Friday), time travel (Pretzel Logic) and copious drug use (The Boston Rag) wasn't all that conventional for the times.
That's not to say that they couldn't write love songs (cf: Rikki Don't Lose That Number) but by album number three (Pretzel Logic) the pair had tired of touring and begun to employ session musicians to achieve the sonic idealism to match their acerbic, dark wit.
By The Royal Scam (1976) they'd found their modus operandi. Guitars were still the focus, but by now the players were mainly jazz adepts. Kid Charlemagne, in particular, beggars belief. Larry Carlton's solo is impeccable, especially when borne aloft by Bernard 'Pretty' Purdie's drum shuffle and matched by wry lyrics about an anti-hero at the chemical centre of the hippy dream.
By 1977's Aja obsessive compulsive tendencies had a monstrous grip; leading to soloists being wheeled in one after the other to nail the elusive takes that lived in their heads. Michael McDonald famously recalls how his backing vocals for Peg were recorded syllable by painful syllable. The icy gleam of jazz rock rubs up against tales of damaged lives lived in spoiled seclusion: a lifestyle the pair were themselves courting.
By 1980's Gaucho their material was impeccable (Third World Man, Time Out Of Mind: featuring a cruelly buried Mark Knopfler solo) but they now regarded the youthcentric West Coast as a living embodiment of civilization's last days (Babylon Sisters). They retired to lick their wounds.
Unfairly used as shorthand for worthy musos your dad would like, The Very Best Of, while joining a long line of Dan compilations, is a reminder that, for a period, they matched Zappa-esque smarts to 60s songcraft and were simply the most perfect band on the planet.
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 01:47:30 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Larf. Haw. No bigger meatier beat, uh, I mean riff came along until 'The Great Pagoda of Funn' replaced 'Godwhacker' as the greatest ode to wank (or whank, either) of all time. And you got a point; 'I'll Wait' by Van Halen was hard to beat.
Date: Sun, July 05, 2009, 00:26:31 ET
Posted by: poops, de jour
don't ya just hate cap throwers?
so as far as im concerned (and who else matters, really), godwackers is a neo-dan classic.
you don't get a bigger, meatier riff.
and they took it out of the set in bermingham??? sluts! ok then do slang me. sublime.
im told that it's the queen mum's haberdasher's favorite tune - after mr. sam, of course.
imagine. in my lifetime there has never been a king of england. weird. hey, mummo can't you abdicate or something so your dweeb-ass son can at least say he was king for a day???
herington is very good. never came up with the big memorable solo or riff, though. so thats why we rate him as lesser.
recent news suggests that if you bought your tomato plants at a big box store whore outlet that you should destroy them because of blight. duh, what do you expect.
got mine at an organic farmers market, them girls are gonna taste SWEET.
it was a sign from god. i don't know what kind of sign, so we all prayed: http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2009/06/16/Smoke-sign-or-UFO-over-park-in-Va/UPI-64261245182683/
can't figure out why carlock is so good. only thing i can come up with is that he is very relaxed behind the kit.
im starting a Sneaker cover band - who's in? don't let me in??
in case you melod fans haven't suffered enough, here you go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8I5YKOaDpY
hell, id rather do a carridine that listen to that!
everyone in our national government is a criminal - happy frikking 4th!
Date: Sat, July 04, 2009, 22:45:28 ET
Posted by: Docter Death, President Street
Fella's in brite nightgowns need not apply...
Damn, Dokta Biff, I had you scheduled for the day before the show. How's August 29th for you?.
Date: Sat, July 04, 2009, 19:20:21 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
Dean,
I am a fan Larry Carlton, sorry if that came out wrong.
First time I saw him in concert was 1984 with John Patitucci on electric bass. Later he did take a more commercial approach and no one can blame him. His blues period to me was kind of rehashed, these tunes only have so much to give. Thought some of his albums were good but not going forward for a man of his caliber. He's playing here in SF in August and of course I will go.
Herington has been fantastic almost every time I saw him taking the stage with SD. To suggest he's not worthy must be coming from some Nostalgia fart that likes to hear songs played note by note true to their original versions. That said, I
would love to see Randall or Diaz on stage for a couple as well, but it's not 1972 and there is a reason why these guys are out of the game.
Date: Sat, July 04, 2009, 19:14:50 ET
Posted by: Those_Frenetic_Licks_, In_Green_Earrings
Dr. Wu, while I cannot provide _verbatim_ "English translations of Provincial Reuben's posts", his phrasing has been selected for analysis by the newly minted "Quantum Understanderator of Eloquence Surpassing Human TOleraNce" or more succinctly "QUESHTON". This device is only one part of a larger enterprise who's aim it is to identify visitors living among us from parallel Steely Dan universes. We've had our eye on Provincial Reuben for some time - we're pretty sure he either lives in, or has strong ties to, Mizar 5. His intersection with our mostly ho-hum plane appears to be limited. How much we cannot say, but so far we have collected evidence of him only in connexion with local theatre, certain sporting events, and of course (especially) our favorite band. Additionally there is circumstantial evidence that he may have established a compound quite near where he purports to reside, where a somewhat tribal modus is in effect. We are making further inquiries. Be that as it may, on to the task at hand. Deconstructing such an opus of obfuscated utterance is a daunting task. However we will persist with the help of QUESHTON and our tried-and-true methodology: "Incremental Accretion of MANy A Small Success" or "IAMANASS". Bear with us, Dr. Wu and other true Dan Fans, as we peel the layers of this prodigious onion. We are off to recite Provincial's posts to QUESHTON, which treats it's input first as a kind of aural Rorschach Ink Blot (our breakthrough, patent pending) before attempting lexical and syntactic analysis. Your truly, Frenetic - CEO/CTO; The Consortium
ps: we will be at the August show in Memphis in attempt to gather minutiae related to Provincial Reuben. In a clever leveraging of associative memory we will lure him with a Big Blue Tarp.
Date: Sat, July 04, 2009, 16:05:24 ET
Posted by: Dr, Demeton (like Jerome Anton)
Jaydee, you "go" guy. Zzzzzactly my point w/ Herington! Let's have a malt together some time.
BTW, I wouldn't know a humbucker from a buttfucker as I have never even held a guitar lest made it weep.
Thanks to the those two music school douches who showed their asses by being completely ingorant of the latin percussion element of SD which, BTW, has been totally ingored since '00 by Mssrs. D&W in their live setting. Even Winwood tours with an auxiliary percussionist which he can scarcely afford; yet D&W can't? Oy vey!
Date: Sat, July 04, 2009, 15:24:44 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Don't quite know why I'm throwing my cap in with someone who recently told me to (go) 'bugger off' but, like Dr D, I can also see why Herington's long-term contract might merit some re-evaluation.
His playing is always enjoyable, and hard to criticise, but just seems that little bit too 'safe', and even rather unadventurous on the several live recordings I have. I also stand by the 'too static' opinion that I tentatively voiced after the London gig (yes Dr D, I do mean 'stands in one place'). And yes, he looks down at his fingers too much - I spent most of the evening looking at the top of his head. Only time he seemed to 'come alive' was when Elliot Randall's sheer exuberance hit the stage. Similarly, on the Fagen solo tour, he seemed to be spurred on by having Wayne Krantz as a jousting partner.
Becker and Fagen have never been reluctant to shake things up in the SD camp, but I can only imagine that it would have to be some almost unknown 'young turk' who happened to be picked up by their musical radar. The only 'known' player that strikes me as an interesting possibility is Robben Ford. Wasn't Metheny supposedly approached for the '93 tour, but turned it down? Interesting idea, of course, but I somehow can't hear it in my head.
BTW - how many doctors/doktas are there on this site - it's almost like NHS direct ?
Date: Sat, July 04, 2009, 11:41:39 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Happy 4th of July
Lutz,
Regarding Larry Carlton:
Carlton's early solo stuff was brilliant, IMO. The self-titled Larry Carlton was exceptional, and far from safe. Even some of his early acoustic stuff was creative and pretty interesting, IMO.
Larry can still play with the best of them, but what he chooses to play has become soft, safe and rather lame at times. The thing what keeps it from total lameness, is that Larry is just very very good.
I have seen him solo (with band) live on many occasions. Way back when he was just fantastic. But the later shows have been good, but not spectacular, for the most part.
Date: Sat, July 04, 2009, 11:02:05 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
Demento, your kidding or speak for yourself.
You live in the past, dude. Carlton, Randall, Diaz were and still are good. 70's are over.
Carlton has not become more creative, still has the touch but it seems
Royal Scam was the highlight of his career. His own stuff is rather predictable if not lame.
Saw him with live Lukather,then with his own band. Played good and safe.
Ever seen Herington on Haitian divorce? Don't take me alive sounds sharper too. My old school? And look at his credentials - Michael Brecker, Jim Beard, Bill Evans. That's telling.
Looks like you're jealous.
Date: Sat, July 04, 2009, 09:10:49 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
All that being said...
As ever: my bad. Mea culpa.
Well, shit. There I go again. I don't know no latin or romantic language.
Okay. Here's how this clown beats the keys or even VOIP:
We hold these truths to be self evident: the blogosphere was created to allow the belief that all participants are and do what they claim or, at least, what we infer from what they insinuate or imply in post.
I trust there was a Biff across the pond who made a generous(?) offer.
I thought it was generous, and, if the plea were disseminated, I hoped his Human Resources staff would be swamped with folks who wanted to go along.
A blue-eyed fellow mistook DB for me and said lotsa luck-- especially babewise. As far as I could tell, PN dressed up his own post with a repeat of it in some nother language.
Later,assuming Biff was sincere, I felt for him as this ought to be as good a place as any to throw an opportunity/problem/situation out for some actual help. That nice Rajah gentleman and some others seem to be within km's of the show, and they might be able or willing to help.
The guys I go to shows with are not babes. They are butts though.
Date: Sat, July 04, 2009, 07:17:31 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Webmaster, Jim "Hoops" McKay:
Thank you for all you do and have done for us all here in the ether.
I am a raving daniac for going on 31&.25 years. You could ask all three of my friends-- and I have dragged them along; one kicking and screaming --, and they'll tell you that I bleed Red Giant, White Dwarf, and Deacon Blues.
I love (yea & nay) all things Steely Dan, and you have provided me (and possibly other similarly minded individuals) with a forum to cry where even the whistling wind knows the inspiration of W&D.
I admit we haven't seen eye-to-eye a couple of times, but you have defended and enabled my right to make just the fool of myself that I wanted.
Thank you again, and know that should we meet, I'll buy you a beer-- or even a hoodie. No. I'm not rich, but I owe you. BIG TIME. It's probably hard to tell, but I have poor impulse control too. If there were ever anything I could say to help you, please ask. Heck, I'd try to DO anything for you. Up to and maybe including leaving you alone.
Date: Sat, July 04, 2009, 01:56:29 ET
Posted by: SS, HK
Here is the Elliott Randall RITY from the other night but from a different angle (different camera, sound etc.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeC3oxUvJyg
Date: Sat, July 04, 2009, 00:47:07 ET
Posted by: Dr. What?, Big app
Hey Dr. DEMENTO??? Were you suggesting replacing the horn players?? replacing Roger??? I sure hope I read that wrong because he is a monster player. All 4 of them are and in all the shows and bootlegs i've heard, no horn section has come close to sounding as good as the current lineup.
Date: Sat, July 04, 2009, 00:10:56 ET
Posted by: Dr. Wu, Iowa
Is there some place that I can sign up for the English translations of Provincial Reuben's posts? The little that I'm able to pick up for myself seem quite intriguing and I'd certainly enjoy getting the big picture.
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 20:10:08 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
"Oh, italiano bellimbusto, lei ha fatto il mio giorno!" That was my favorite part, but I'm mostly an i-m-busto and certainly a ha fatto. In Havana they call me ill gordo, and the first guy that kissed me at the SD concert ('93 Houston; we stayed in a neighborhood called the Heights or the Castro) was the Massapequa Kid (some people called him Fidel,) but enough about me. All those Lucasfilms 'dolls' my grandmother called them belonged to my son. All I'm sayin' is I'm hopin' Dokta Biff's HR is overrun with gluteus to the maximus.
Remember: Sometimes nothin' is a pretty cool hand.
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 19:03:39 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour
Another brief, but very positive review from this tour:
http://www.birminghampost.net/life-leisure-birmingham-guide/birmingham-culture/music-in-birmingham/2009/07/02/steely-dan-at-nia-academy-65233-24059943/
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 18:59:02 ET
Posted by: paul newman, gold circle seats
wow, italian dude, you made my day!
haw.
a dan fan is even less likely to get the comely lady than a starwars action figures collector.
¿ perhaps you were thinking that monica bellucci reads the blue book?
sell your ticket to the first person who wants one - probably a CPA. and use the money to buy some a FHM magazine subscription!
Oh, italiano bellimbusto, lei ha fatto il mio giorno!
Biancospino.
Un ventilatore di dan è anche meno probabile per prendere la prossimamente signora di un'azione di starwars figura il collezionista.
¿ Forse lei pensava che quel bellucci di monica legga il libro blu?
Vendere il suo biglietto alla prima persona che vuole un - probabilmente un CPA. ed usare il denaro per comprare dell'una sottoscrizione di rivista di FHM!
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 18:51:20 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Dokta: Bet it'll be tough bein' your HR guy.
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 18:15:15 ET
Posted by: Dokta Biff, Florence, Italy
HELP: got 2 seats but only 1 ass - need a spare set of buttocks (female preferable). After 35 years as a Danster, finally catching up with them live next Saturday night at the Umbria Jazz Festival in Italy.. coz I missed the Edinburgh gig last week. Seats are about 30 rows from stage, just right of centre (that's from Fagen's viewpoint...if he ever looks up from his Fender/Wurlitzer/Casio/Bontempi/Plastic organ keyboard).
Tickets are on me, not trying to sell them off...christ, I've waited long enough to see SD, pretty sure I can toe-tap my way thru the gig alone, but a like-minded Dan 'freak' alongside for the evening could make it all the more memorable..in fact, intending to spend the whole afteroon in Perugia as there'll be a lot more music happenin on the lead up to the gig...
Fella's in brite nightgowns need not apply...
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 17:54:32 ET
Posted by: T, Avignon
Paris Olympia setlist:
Teenie's Blues
Reelin In The Years (new version)
Time Out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
My Old School
Bad Sneakers
Two Against Nature
Black Friday
Aja
Hey 19
Parker's Band
Babylon Sisters
Glamour Profession
Daddy Don't Live
Deacon Blues
Love is Like an Itchin In My Heart
Josie
Peg
Encores:
FM
Kid Charlemagne
Last Tango in Paris
(Paris setlist = Birmingham setlist)
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 17:43:08 ET
Posted by: Joe Murtha,
Duncan,
RitY ''72'' (FULL ft Elliot Randall)
THANK YOU!
Wow!!!!!!!!
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 14:53:23 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Name, Muggy Long Island
Thanks Duncan for posting that great, original arrangement of RITY.
I have already commented on SD's other re-worked version of this warhorse. Great to hear Elliot Randall play it very similar to the original as well. It's not that we all want a live version note for note close to the original. But it's great to see the man responsible for the original solos tackle it gracefully 37 years later.
And hey !! Who's that crazy Limey who made it onto the stage, then evaded security. You Brits with your warm beer and your insistence on making Haitian Divorce an unlikey hit. I love you guys.
Beast
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 13:43:31 ET
Posted by: RITY,
Also missing from Reelin' 09 - so subtle I almost forgot:
formation-flying testosterone guitars
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 13:39:21 ET
Posted by: RITY,
As someone already mentioned, Reelin' 09 is "Cash Only Island" with older lyrics draped over it.
Missing from Reelin' 09 - Righteous Boogie Beat, rapid-fire lyrics expressing exasperation, meandering whiney melody.
It does have the angel choir, and the lyrics seem to express melancholy and a lingering grudge, a companion to "Things I Miss the Most".
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 13:00:01 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @work
The new Reelin' has a Kamakiriad feel/sound to it. It's almost like I can sing some other lyrics to it but I can't quite figure out what the other song is.....
KC
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 09:53:38 ET
Posted by: sss,
thinks the fan "Voting" on Steely Dan set lists is very similar to a recent election in Iran.
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 08:35:23 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Thanks Duncan. Good stuff!
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 07:01:20 ET
Posted by: pixeleen, reelin"
Duncan:
Excellent video clips !! ...especially Reelin'72 with Elliot::: Priceless!!!
Many thanks.!! Was "almost" as good as being there......only wish I could have been there. Hope that you are going to more shows; look forward to seeing more of your clips.
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 02:13:31 ET
Posted by: bmurphyere, SoCal
Just listening. It never gets old for me. Same as '73, or '78, or '80, etc. It's a miracle. Like Michael Jackson, but without the intensity. Just solid, no-frills soul. I am glad you're alive. Thank you Donald & Walter.
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 01:49:51 ET
Posted by: duncan, UK
excuse the ugly list of links ...
Steely Dan live at the Hammersmith Apollo 01 07 09...
Pics
www.flickr.com/photos/richmondschoolreunion01-04-2006/sets/72157620862663260/
the video's are here, the first couple are low quality but i've included them anyway...
Bad Sneakers (CLIP)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyUMuQ7o9Is
2aN (CLIP)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6GaobGHnC0
AjA (CLIP)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNzw-flpT74
Walter's Rap (FULL)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9kIoWFP20E
RitY ''72'' (FULL ft Elliot Randall)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1TUIDvph1M
Kid C (CLIP ft Elliot Randall)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4tayZ9HzUc
Kid C-2 (CLIP ft Elliot Randall)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcF4s8o1_sQ
enjoy!
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 00:45:41 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
What's up with the way the piano sounds on AiA/93 SBDs? It's very flat (dynamically speaking, not tonally) and seems to have highs and lows way down and mid range all the way up.
Date: Fri, July 03, 2009, 00:06:01 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
I'm not really young, but I might have been on his show.
After listening to NYR&SR (the album) I was eager to go to join the citizens hoping to hear DF say,"Drew Zingggg!" And maybe it was just the name, but I think I enjoyed Georg the most.
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 20:53:41 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Jaydee: %bloody<good humour.
just the facts: instant feedback, eh? Just finished an interesting book, "Little Brother" by Cory Doctorow that is all about your #'s 1,3, and 5.
Bill from Rooneyburgh: Is don's flameproof suit a really long spandex jacket? And you're right.
Bilko: Oh, no. Good Lord, you're choking the sob from the comfort of Fort Baxter.
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 18:55:56 ET
Posted by: Willy Burroughs, Naked
http://msg.com/steelydan/
Think they'll play "Let George Do It"???
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 18:03:20 ET
Posted by: Bilko, Fort Baxter
"Ummm, sorry to break it to
you, but yes maybe you are
that old. :O) "
Choke! Good lord. Sob!
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 17:05:15 ET
Posted by: KD, Not Orlando
Two things I'm absolutely loving, on a solid summer evening:
1). The new version of "Reelin' in the Years." I love it. Please keep playing it.
2). The reports from the London shows. Great stuff, posters. Thanks for the words.
George Harrison would say "thanks for the pepperoni," but I never understood that.
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 16:49:26 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Tennis Anyone?
Thanks for the great reports from Europe! The London show must have been great!
Wonder if there is any chance Donald took in any Wimbledon matches while in London. John McEnroe is a friend of Donald’s so a ticket would not be a problem. (McEnroe wrote in his bio that he was married in Donald and Libby’s yard in Hawaii). Maybe Mac went to one of the UK gigs?
Mark in Boston
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 16:22:02 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Bel Air - We're Heading to The Pool For An Early Holiday Start!
bilko,
""You must mean "Rainbow 74".
Right?"
No, I'm not that old! ..........surely!"
Ummm, sorry to break it to
you, but yes maybe you are
that old. :O)
Steely Dan never played in
London in 1975. 74 was the
last time before they sprung
from the dead.
Thanks again for the pix.
Save travels all.
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 15:11:55 ET
Posted by: bob is not my uncle, anymore
is the sonic360 link the way to download the June 15th release of downtown canon radio edit and the demo?
Its not working for me
or am i missing something?
bob
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 14:45:38 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, wonders
if Per-Gunnar Erickson will be attending any shows, and anxiously awaits PGE's comments, if he does.
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 14:12:30 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
These Euro Dan folks of ours are really coming through this time on the Blue, thank you boys and girls...
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 12:59:20 ET
Posted by: Bilko, London
For what it's worth, I thought that the new version of RITY was terrific, as was the update on "Show-business Kids" Those first three songs established a funkier, bluesier groove that really signalled that it was going to be a special night. I was disappointed to hear "My Old School" next, as I didn't think they'd ever surpass that as an encore (little did I know)
A superb rendition of "Bad Sneakers' and Don's voice was better than I've ever heard it. 2VN is not a favourite of mine, so for me the set stalled a little at this point, but Aja was outstanding. The crowd was, by this time, standing and cheering every number, as if it were an encore.
Although "Glamour Profession" is one of my favourite Dan tracks, I don't think that they did it justice. However, the show then hit top gear and although some would say they were reelin' out the old chestnuts, the crowd loved 'em. Plenty of dancing and a few attempts at rushing the stage. I know that there has been much debate about the band doing the same old numbers and leaving out most of their recent efforts, but the bulk of the audience loved those big numbers and they paid the band back with their enthusiasm. I'd just seen Springsteen's monster Glastonbury set on the television. It was magnificent, but what was the headline in the times? "Springsteen Refuses To Play Born In The USA" Artists can't win sometimes.
Funny moments would of course include the guy who jumped on stage. Surrounded by security, he looked as if he was going to surrender peacefully, when all of a sudden, he dodged them and did a circuit of the group. Big smiles from the guitarists at this stage. We had the usual shouting of requests, which seemed to amuse Fagen. Amongst these were "Hotel California" and "Billie Jean".
During the usual Walt monologue in "Hey 19" where he couldn't remember the name of the drink, some woman thought he was being serious and kept shouting out "Tequila!" It was an old, knowledgeable, fun crowd and Fagen invited them to give themselves a round of applause.
As for the sound balance, for me it was perfect. However, last time I was near the front but in seat 1 and I felt strangely detached because of the resulting lack of balance. One of my friends was row F and close to the other side. He eventually went to stand at the back, where he thought there was a better sound and more atmosphere. So there you go.
The encore was something else again. The whole crowd sang along and as you looked around, you could see faces with smiles so wide they could have split in two. It really was that good. Two years ago, I heard a guy say "We'll never see the like of that agin in our lifetime." And you knw what? I thought that he was probably right. It just goes to show, you can't count on anything with these guys.
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 12:58:36 ET
Posted by: oops,
I mean 2008
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 12:57:46 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,
Just The Facts:
Re your #5., at the risk of inginting a partisan firestorm, I believe this is just what we did on November 5, 2009.
[dons flameproof suit]
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 12:51:38 ET
Posted by: just the facts, m'am
1. well you are really missing out if you haven't been checking my "email addresse"s lately
2. dear dr. d - i assume you have proof of your medical school graduation?
3. in this day of the internet, it is wise for the fans to say what they think. instant feedback for the performers. rity is not good. nice try, but not good. if you don't think the dan camp is monitoring these message boards - think again.
4. ARE THERE dannette fans who do the "dan fans" with benefits? sign in stranger!!!
5. take time this holiday to consider, as the great patriot that you are, how our government has failed and to seriously consider these words from the declaration of independence:
. . . that whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the American Citizens to alter or abolish it, and institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing it’s powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness…when a long train of abuses and usurpation, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 12:33:56 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, the English book
Dr (D) - 'offense' in US, 'offence' in UK (color/colour kinda thing). Can't afford a shrink, but jovial jousting over I think, so steely knives down ?
Next day reflection - Herington plays great, but too clean, too static, and looks down at his fingers more than any other player I've ever seen. Couldn't help wishing he might just occasionally morph into a stage-striding, guitar-wailing Jeff Baxter-esque figure.
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 10:32:18 ET
Posted by: Girl Margaret, Around
KALVIN I HEART YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're reviews are always a treat, and well, your treats are always a treat too :) I really need to make it out to the Boston shows!
bilko, thanks for sharing your pics, they're fantastic! OMG I would have died to see Elliot Randall join The Dan again!
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 09:27:29 ET
Posted by: duncab, on a train!
hi guys
i can testify the London show was awsome!!
like bilko & the others i'll be posting links to my photo's & full ecore video's later. great to here the new RITY & TOOM
sorry to report that as usual the security down the front where worse than usless!!
more later dudes!
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 09:23:00 ET
Posted by: Richard, Bristol Uk
SD in London
A really good show and IMHO they played better than Birmingham two years ago.
Some thoughts :
* Sound was great at the back
* Liked the new arrangement of RITY
* Elliot Randall's appearance was such fun although thought the original of RITY wasn't the best
* Delighted to hear Glamour Profession
* Carlock's second solo in Aja was the best I've heard him do - ever
* We put a metronome on Keith a various points throughout the show - he's spot on that boy
* Jon Herington was quiet on guitar - in fact the whole show seemed more about the horns than anything else
* Thought Walter hurried through the band intro
* DF seemed to be having a good time
* A live album/DVD of this tour must happen somehow.
Cheers
Richard
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 09:21:00 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
wormtom,
Good question about the double RITY. I think it may reflect the confidence Walt and Don have with the new version. After all, the two songs share a title and lyrics, but they aren't really the same song, musically, I mean, it isn't due to a shortage of material, as they have several songs they have played this tour, they could have used.
But if Randall was going to play on another tune, I would expect it to be one where he played the original guitar solo. The well known guitar work on Kid C is from Larry Carlton.
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 08:32:41 ET
Posted by: wormtom, nola
Elliot Randall - wondeful, but why play it twice
love to hear what he did with Kid C
What I'd really like is Chuck rainey doing a few numbers at Mud Island in Memphis - I'll be in that number 2nd row left
that's not too far from Dallas hint hint
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 08:15:54 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Blokes (and birds) from the old country: Please excuse some skepticism. In the middle of the night, I woke with a start and said aloud, "What if Bilko's first name were 'Ernie'? or 'Sergeant'?" 'Course, then I realized that no one (especially that poster of fine flick) was scamming (even in the commonest way) anybody and there was a GREAT show in a venerable venue.
As for the rest? Well, a body can only hope for excuse up to a percentage of the degree to which commonality of language has seperated us-- that, and good humour.
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 05:42:45 ET
Posted by: me,
Jaydee - you tell him!
Absolutely brilliant!
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 04:04:37 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Dr (Demento) - everything true as stated by this humble reporter, who was not (as you implied) the recipient of JH phone call. We too were sceptical of the veracity of said communication, but knew that the proof would be evident in any 'London-specific' encore, as indeed it was when DF brought out London resident Elliot Randall.
But hey, I can be pretty relaxed about taking flak from someone who can't spell (self-annoited?), blatantly commits his own offence of aggrandisement (to the rank of self-appointed expert in SD band members' contractual obligations), and ends with a tautological faux-pas (the fine old english expletive epithet 'bugger off' is cruelly diminished by a superflous precursory 'go') !
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 03:23:47 ET
Posted by: Bilko, London
"You must mean "Rainbow 74".
Right?"
No, I'm not that old! ..........surely!
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 01:06:57 ET
Posted by: angel,
I saw Elliot Randall do the guitar solos on Reelin' back at the RRHOF Danfest in 2001. He was smoking then and this brings back all sorts of memories and a feeling that it has all come full circle. He played the song with The Dan once again. After 30 something years. How cool is that?
Congratulations London, you got a winner of a event.
Date: Thurs, July 02, 2009, 00:57:04 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
There we were thinkin' how lucky we were back in ought-six in Dallas cause we didn't hear Wayne Kratz play the 'Peg' solo cause some guy came up out of the audience and nailed it in one take. If only they'd gotten the bass player involved... That London gig sounded gear.
Bobbo: I contacted the TN-festers earlier today and haven't heard a thing. There will be couples of the canis lupidae in Memphis on the 14th, but they'll probably be on tight time leashes. Well, maybe all but big brother, the businessman. At any rate, there will surely be a push for a spirited, if not salvia-induced game of psycho-motor in the deep end of the pool.
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 23:56:03 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, This board is reelin' in the years, baby!
After reading the review, it seems that this show will end up as one of those legacy concerts everyone talks about for years to come.
Jealous as fuck... but that's soooo awesome for everyone there.
These guys can still amaze us....
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 23:04:54 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Holy Shit!
I'm extremely fucking jealous.
Thanks for all the reports.
bilko, Outfuckingstanding!
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 22:26:41 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
<<Why does DF always sing 'FearsCome excavation' ?>>
Because he's always reading along with the lyrics! And reading just a bit head ahead to the very non-musical word (with lots of hard consonants in the middle): "Excavation," can mess with the mind!
BTW only the Dan can make a word like that work in a song. And I mean ONLY the Dan...
This London show must have been something else. Hope one day (soon), i get to hear it in some form... ;)
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 22:15:06 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
WOW. THANK YOU LONDON.
That has got to set the
new high-watermark for
the tour so far. Only
wish I could have been
there. Cheers.
Thanks for the pics bilko!
You must mean "Rainbow 74".
Right?
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 21:44:56 ET
Posted by: Bobbo, bloody MISSING IT!
Well,
Goddang it, I am thrilled at the buzz from this year's shows! Kudos and good stuff for all of you who've made it out...the band is really THAT GOOD this time around?! I've absolutely wallowed in your reviews, afterthoughts, setlists, and the collected bric-a-brac here. It is a fine thing, culturally (for us Danners, anyway), when the Boys are out.
I'm still not seeing any shows in Texas--or even Denver! Which forces the question: What've I got to do? Hit Memphis? I've done some logistics on it, and I think that'd be a "cool" gig and venue. My question to you cats (and kitties) is, who's doing the Mud Island show? Because, for good or ill, that's looking like my only Steely Dan show this year.
Be a good Danner, now, and tell Ol' Bobbo: WHO IS DOING MEMPHIS ON THIS TOUR? I'll be available for a Danfest, some singing, children's parties, magic, et cetera. Is anybody in? Let me know, I'll be lookin' for ya.
Okay,
Bobbo
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 21:22:26 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
Bilko, thanks for the photos...very nice. Kalvin, good to hear from you, enjoyed your review. Look forward to seeing you in Boston?
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 21:15:57 ET
Posted by: steelydoc,
great pix bilko, thanks!!!
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 20:59:57 ET
Posted by: bilko, London
I've just uploaded some photos from the London gig. Everyone looks as though they were really enjoying themselves. As a veteran from as far back as the Rainbow 1975, I must say that this was the most enjoyable show yet. Donald's voice was in great shape, the sound balance was good and the band seemed funkier than before. A terrific set list, with an excellent version of "Reelin' In The Years" to kick off. The encore with Elliott Randall was fantastic, bringing back memories of that memorable 70s gig.
Check out the photos on flickr.com (look up colonelhall or try: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11015258@N02/sets/72157620834796138/
Hope you like them.
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 19:23:41 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, nyseeyainamonth
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYAKfPF3A9s
Final 2 minutes of RITY '09 from London
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 19:14:50 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
London Hammersmith Odeon (HMV Apollo? I don't think so) setlist :
Teenie's Blues
Reelin' (new version)
Time Out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
My Old School
Bad Sneakers
2vN
Black Friday
Aja
Hey 19
Parker's Band
Babylon Sisters
Glamour Profession
Daddy Don't Live
Deacon Blues
Love is Like an Itchin' (intros)
Josie
Peg
Encores
Reelin' (ORIGINAL version feat. London resident Elliot Randall! - no horns)
Kid C
Last Tango
Solid two hours (8.35 to 10.35)
Great sound as ever in this legendary 3500 seat venue, even from row Z of the circle (actually better than front row in 2000).
No need to even mention musicianship of all concerned, except to say Donald in as good if not better voice than my five previous Dan shows. Lighting subtle but impressive, with cues beautifully executed.
Several disparate 'wing-dings' seemed to take place down by the river on a sweltering evening, with SD t-shirts a useful unifying device. One of our coterie, Mark, told us he knew Jon Herington (yeah, sure), and minutes later received phone call from the man himself, with intriguing info that they were rehearsing a surprise London-specific encore - much head scratching (does any SD song mention London?), only resolved by the remarkable appearance of a clearly delighted Elliot Randall.
Minor points of note :
Only 'celeb' spotted in attendance - Jane Torville (McCartney and Dave Gilmour in 2007, so something of a drop in standards there).
DF quoted 'Blue Moon, You saw me standing alone' on melodica during T.O.O.M.
Why does DF always sing 'FearsCome excavation' ?
Over-exuberant fan jumped onstage during Reelin' encore, and had to be chased around stage.
Andy Murray won his Wimbledon quarter-final !
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 19:12:04 ET
Posted by: Bilko, London
The band was on fire tonight, but when Elliot Randall came on, the house went berserk! Fantastic singalong to the original "Reelin'" complete with a stage invasion by one lone nutter, who had security wrong footed. I've got photos too. They'll be on flickr.com tomorrow.
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 18:40:46 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
I had to see it to believe it. Ready Freddie with Spinal Tap last night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fWDumg3qeQ
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 18:39:04 ET
Posted by: Advice Giver,
Hey Pixeleen!
Maybe if you Mid-Atlantic girls started putting out like those Dutch girls on bicycles, Donnie and Walty would come to your area too!
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 18:22:51 ET
Posted by: did you realize, that
Freddie Washington sat in with Spinal Tap last night for "Big Bottom" at Wembley...
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 18:16:15 ET
Posted by: El Supremo, Top of the stairs
El Supremo doesn't lie. Elliott was the epitome of pig in mud. You could see the fun he was having and he totally brought down the Apollo. The illustrious Mr. Randall also sat in for the 2nd encore: Kid Charlemagne. I am a happy happy man tonight!
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 18:08:10 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
<<<Got to hear both versions of Reelin' tonight!>>>
Seriously?
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 17:59:27 ET
Posted by: El Supremo, Top of the stairs
Holy smokes! Elliott Randall with The Dan for an encore in London!!! Gave me chills. Got to hear both versions of Reelin' tonight!
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 17:24:34 ET
Posted by: new rhodes piano test, "Fagen" request
http://www.keyboardmag.com/article/inside-new-rhodes/jun-09/97231
Choose the last movie "Part 10"
At the new Rhodes Piano factory testing the keyboards, a request for some Donald Fagen while testing the phase shifter effect yields on-the-fly Babylon Sisters. Piano sounds great.
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 16:51:53 ET
Posted by: Chris, takin' a break at work
and I found this: Steve Gadd talks about Aja drum fills http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py0FdS-e960&feature=fvw
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 16:18:38 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
[Voice of Casey Kasem]:...so Don and Walt went back to their leather couches thinking, 'Hey. If we can make people in Alabama go nuts by singing about a man named Tennessee, imagine what folks will do when they hear about the outcry caused by Charlie Parker having to do a short stretch...' There you have it, Jay Hermans. Perhaps the single greatest song in the history of rock and roll is no longer Steely Dan with "Reelin' in the Years." We DO still have Dexy's Midnight Runners with the single GROSSEST song in the history of the top 40. {Appropriate music (singing) Now, on with the countdown...}
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 13:45:52 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, back from Motown 14% unemployment and climbing
How many times can Walter say "Dutch girls on bicycles" during a show?
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 11:54:18 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Young Wu:
We, very loyal Danfans, in the Mid-Atlantic feel very forgotten too !!
Nothing in DC, MD, or VA for the last couple of tours.
Was it something we said ???
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 11:44:01 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
"Pool keepers son" was a funny mistake. I wonder if he was singing it, loudly, at the concert. Who knows, maybe B Getz (Bernard Getz? Yikes!) keeps the books while in the pool.
As for the boys playing Freebird...well, that seems unlikely, doesn't it? But if for some reason Don and Walt found something in that song that spoke to them, I'm sure whatever they did with it would be fantastic. Of course, as I share very similar musical taste with the boys (at least based on what they have discussed publicly) I don't think we will be hearing that selection. Hope you aren't too disappointed, Dr. D.
Freebird? Where the hell did THAT come from?
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009, 09:55:50 ET
Posted by: mr samm, pool keepers father - i love that kid!
dang if godwacker and tvn aren't highlights.
rity still is just laying there not doing much.contrary to glowing reviews from some curly heads, they didn't jazz it - jazz finds the original melody at some point.
tvn still could use some weirdness, however. hey walt, break out a fuzztone and wah wah and go nutz???
this band sound SO good.
jim pugh is a MONSTA and KC is sweet beyond imagining.
http://www.wachusettbrew.com/beers_green_monsta.htm
