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Date: Thurs, December 31, 2009, 19:12:09 ET
Posted by: shark, outside the stadium
first i've heard of Donald's new solo album. 2010 is lookin' good already!
Date: Thurs, December 31, 2009, 14:27:45 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
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Topics in the December 16-31, 2009 edition of the Dandom Digest include:
• Lynne Timmes-Carlock at Bitter End, TONIGHT, New Year's Eve
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• REDUX: Fagen to record new solo album in 2010
• Bromberger Photo Exhibit: "Can You See What I Hear?"
• ZEROES END: Your Top SD & Non-SD Album Pick & Runner up
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Thanks as always for your support, especially Mark, Bill and John, and of course, Pete & Shari.
Jim
Date: Wed, December 30, 2009, 16:40:21 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Fagen's flubs are forgivable. That cover, however, is not.
Date: Wed, December 30, 2009, 13:06:15 ET
Posted by: Stan,
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/world/2009-decade.html#/2007_2_30311
Walter Sear of Sear Sound.
The caption reads Sear has survived because "he has tons of vintage gear that computer software still cannot emulate."
Date: Tues, December 29, 2009, 22:40:31 ET
Posted by: Do it Again, Plays Kid Charlemagne
Fagen's lyrical flubs seem quite forgivable after watching this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vXZ4zMQosc&feature=channel
Date: Tues, December 29, 2009, 20:13:29 ET
Posted by: shark dv, not the rio grande
haha... i was wondering that myself.
while we're still on the subject of the Deacon Blues chart, and since i've actually had time to pick up a guitar... there's a couple other chords on Howard's chart that i play differently. not sure who's right.
in the verse, instead of B7#9 i play Bm7b5 or B half-diminished
on the last B7#9 in the solo, i play B7(#5)(b9)
that is all.
Date: Tues, December 29, 2009, 19:50:44 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Tangentially Dan-
How in the hell is same-sex marriage in Latin America "Tangentially Dan"? And please don't tell it's because of the album/song Gaucho!
Date: Tues, December 29, 2009, 09:53:26 ET
Posted by: Tangentially , Dan.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/12/28/argentina.gay.marriage/index.html
Date: Tues, December 29, 2009, 09:48:26 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
I have nothing to add. But I do want to say I am LOVING this discussion.
Thanks, guys.
Date: Mon, December 28, 2009, 22:58:32 ET
Posted by: Shark, found it
i think we're both right maaan.....
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Are You Smart Enough To Like It?
Steely Dan: named after a giant dildo, and still stimulating after a 20-year break
Euan Ferguson
© Guardian Newspapers Limited 2000
Sunday February 20, 2000
'I don't know if it's the greatest chord in the world,' drawls Donald Fagen, sprawled all lugubrious over a chi-chi sofa in a forgettable New York hotel, 'but it's not bad. It's a pretty good chord, a pretty neat chord.'
They've got the Steely Dan chord now. It's a chord, and a feel, which is so instantly recognisable by professional musicians that they now refer to it through this shorthand rather than sol-fa notation. It's a pretty neat thing to have, a chord named after you, so we talk about it for a bit, and Fagen and Walter Becker, his co-collaborator and intellectual sparring partner, the Engels to his Marx, perk up, despite the teacups and the valances.
'I guess it would be a minor seventh chord with a sharp five,' explains Fagen, shifting his long legs around and stretching to life. 'But it's a...'
'It's a tonic chord,' Becker jumps in, marginally the more eager-to-please. He looks at me, helpfully, smiling. 'It's a one-chord, think of the main one in "Peg"...' - but Fagen's jumped back in, keen and passionate, and the two are off again, flying, bouncing wordplay, ideas.
'In other words, the quality is of the kind that, well, although if written on a chart you'd say E minor seventh sharp fifth, what it really is is a C chord in first inversion with an E in the bass and including a second, a D...'
'But with no third above the E in the bass...'
'... it has the stability of a tonic chord, but the cool satisfying quality that a true minor seventh has, in the sense of being... Bartókian. Or Copelandian.'
Date: Mon, December 28, 2009, 22:08:29 ET
Posted by: Shark, bar 23
I'm just saying i don't hear a dominant 7 when it goes to F, so I'd call it F6 instead of F13.
this is all very interesting. I need to find that interview now.
and I agree about that mu major nickname thing.....
Date: Mon, December 28, 2009, 20:39:09 ET
Posted by: Donald Rumsfeld-Fagen, Hell
You do have the chromatic thing happening, which is why you use a slash chord: Gadd2/B. The /B shows the chromatic movement. No need to call the chord a Bm7#5 when the chord functions like a major chord. Listen to Donald describe the chord in his instructional video; he calls the chord what it is: a major triad with an added second. Remember the chord's (stupid) nickname: mu major. It's not a mu minor sharp 5.
The minor #5 chord is a strange chord that doesn't serve much of a harmonic purpose. One of the few times I would notate the chord as such is if the progression went something like Am7#5 Am7. Otherwise, the chord is probably functioning as a major chord, not a minor chord.
As for F13, that's the name of the chord. What else to call it? The 13 implies that it is the dominant 7th, 9th and 11th and 13th. If it's without the 9th, I suppose you would call it F6/7 or F7add13 or something like this, with the "add" meaning play only that note. My rule of thumb: When you're fully extending the chord--e.g., if you're playing F-A-C-Eb-G-D--notate it as a 13 chord. The 13 means play everything between F and D. If you're not playing the full extension--for example, F-A-C-Eb-D--call that D a 6 and not a 13. But this isn't theory so much as it is preference.
Date: Mon, December 28, 2009, 18:17:36 ET
Posted by: Shark, blues beach
doc mu-
funny!
seems it always gets a little sticky when we talk about handling minors...
best leave it to Donald.
Date: Mon, December 28, 2009, 18:15:11 ET
Posted by: Shark, blues beach
this is funny, because somewhere there's an interview where, I think Walter, talks specifically about the augmented minor 7th and Steely Dan's use of that chord.
also it seems to make more sense to call it Bm7+ considering the descending chromatic progression. just my opinion. I'm sure your knowledge of theory far surpasses mine!
what's your opinion on the F13 chord? yay or nay...
Date: Mon, December 28, 2009, 14:56:24 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Italian in their eyes
Shark: Did you feel like Gsus?
Date: Mon, December 28, 2009, 14:39:28 ET
Posted by: Donald Rumsfeld-Fagen, Hell
Shark - but Gsus2/B is the better name because it is really a major chord with an added second--not a minor chord. When naming a chord, you should describe its quality, not just what notes are in it.
That said, Gadd2/B is a better name--the second is an added second, not a suspended second; the third is still present in the bass.
Date: Mon, December 28, 2009, 12:04:30 ET
Posted by: Shark, home at last
Gsus2/B is the same chord as Bm7(#5)... just a more confusing name for it.
and i don't hear the dominant 7 on those F chords.
Howard still da man.
Date: Mon, December 28, 2009, 10:21:12 ET
Posted by: HH, Q
I read something once that D & W were taking questions at some kind of gathering, and a drummer gets up and starts asking them about time signatures, and Walter replied "That's nasty." I think it was on the official site but can't find it online anymore.
Date: Mon, December 28, 2009, 08:51:54 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Bold move but yet, Hutch, you and I surely must admit and agree that music theory is a very subjective experience and can be approached from many different angles...angels? Anyway, in this case, as in most, I believe Howard is correct.
Date: Mon, December 28, 2009, 07:42:52 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Shark - You're questioning Howard's chord names?
Very bold on your part.
Date: Mon, December 28, 2009, 00:18:58 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Raj: They are buried under 2 stories of concrete next to the Aja outtakes...let me know if you stumble on them!
Date: Sun, December 27, 2009, 22:39:49 ET
Posted by: Shark DeVille, near the dunes
Howard's charts are really good. There's only a couple chords I would change.
First, the sus2 chords
Gsus2/B is better described as Bm7#5 (or augmented min 7)
Fsus2/A = Am7(#5)
Asus2/C# = C#m7(#5)
etc.
the F13 in the verse is really a F6 (13 is a 6 chord with a dominant 7)
otherwise, it looks pretty good.
I never thought I'd have this song memorized on guitar... but it actually moves in a very logical, mostly descending, progression. i love that scene on the Making of Aja when they isolate the acoustic guitar. sounds great, but is completely lost in the mix i think.
Date: Sun, December 27, 2009, 15:23:03 ET
Posted by: Bobbo, appreciatively awed...
Wow,
Thanks, bro. 13ths and sus2s and #maj7ths, oh my...
Maybe by next Christmas? Ha!
Date: Sun, December 27, 2009, 04:58:13 ET
Posted by: CerpinTaxt, Boston!
Bobbo, I recommend checking out Howard Wright's transcription:
http://www.hakwright.co.uk/music/tab/deacon_blues.txt
I know the chords are pretty intense, but once you get used to it all, it sounds pretty decent on acoustic.
Hope this helps.
Date: Sun, December 27, 2009, 00:26:14 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Habana gari, all. So songs get stuck in a body's head sometimes to the detriment of all involved. But I mUst encourage all to (yes, even on this late December date) invite in the 'Straight No Chaser' version of "The Twelve Days of Christmas." Now back to my regularly scheduled rant.
Date: Sun, December 27, 2009, 00:26:01 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Habana gari, all. So songs get stuck in a body's head sometimes to the detriment of all involved. But I mUst encourage all to (yes, even on this late December date) invite in the 'Straight No Chaser' version of "The Twelve Days of Christmas." Now back to my regularly scheduled rant.
Date: Sat, December 26, 2009, 23:52:14 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County
Date: Sat, December 26, 2009, 22:34:50 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl, Later, skater
Actually, I think DF singing Carey would be a nice companion piece to Gaucho. Could be the same couple in happier times. They used to go to the Mermaid Cafe and laugh it up, and now there's this meddling bodacious cowboy. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Date: Sat, December 26, 2009, 22:17:12 ET
Posted by: Bobbo, entertaining at the Dude Ranch
Hey All,
Is there a genius about? I'm trying to "strum-and-sing" a Dan song, and having a devil of a time. Does anybody know a fake-up for "Deacon Blues"? So far, I'm at:
Gmaj7/F/Bm/C, on the verse. Jeez, this is harder than I thought. Should've stuck to Henley/Frey compositions, no? I can play ALL of those; I'm not proud, OR tired.
Strange stuff to stagger the guests at hand, when you're snowed in, no? Help a brother out, if you're there. Hat2Flat could probably answer this one, but alas, I'm out of touch--anyone? Thanks in advance, and I'll be lookin' for ya.
Okay,
Bobbo
Date: Sat, December 26, 2009, 16:58:48 ET
Posted by: wazza, Los Angeles, CA
In addition to selling a huge collection of Steely Dan memoribilia, I have multipart Horn Charts for fifty of the most popular songs ever written by Walter and Donald.
These horn charts are organized in multiple binders by the song and successfully used by one of the best and longest-standing Steely Dan tribute bands in the world. Please contact vocalsfromhell@yahoo.com for photos and additional details.
Date: Sat, December 26, 2009, 11:13:54 ET
Posted by: Rajah, you must remember this
Phoebe, I've been searching for their cover of Carey for years...to no avail. The Holy Grail and the Ark of the Covenent will be discovered first. And yes, I can hear Donald crooning those lyrics, a song is just a song, you step into its shoes and travel.
Date: Sat, December 26, 2009, 11:02:33 ET
Posted by: Woodman, Canada
Happy Boxing Day everyone.
Date: Sat, December 26, 2009, 09:46:41 ET
Posted by: Ssssh,
It's been quiet on steelydan.com ever since the tour ended. No changes to the main page, no news anywhere. It's quiet.
Date: Sat, December 26, 2009, 08:54:05 ET
Posted by: Phoebe Homophobe,
Is it me but, wouldn't it be a bit awkward if DF or WB sang these lyrics???:
The wind is in from Africa
Last night I couldn't sleep
Oh, you know it sure is hard to leave here Carey
But it's really not my home
My fingernails are filthy, I got beach tar on my feet
And I miss my clean white linen and my fancy French cologne
Oh Carey get out your cane
And I'll put on some silver
Oh you're a mean old Daddy
But I like you fine
Come on down to the Mermaid Café and I will
Buy you a bottle of wine
And we'll laugh and toast to nothing and smash our empty glasses down
Let's have a round for these freaks and these soldiers
A round for these friends of mine
Let's have another round for the bright red devil
Who keeps me in this tourist town
Come on Carey get out your cane
I'll put on some silver
Oh you're a mean old Daddy
But I like you
Maybe I'll go to Amsterdam
Maybe I'll go to Rome
And rent me a grand piano
And put some flowers 'round my room
But let's not talk about fare-thee-wells now
The night is a starry dome
And they're playin' that scratchy rock and roll
Beneath the Matala Moon
Come on Carey get out your cane
I'll put on some silver
We'll go to the Mermaid Café
Have fun tonight
The wind is in from Africa
Last night I couldn't sleep
Oh you know it sure is hard to leave here
But it's really not my home
Maybe it's been too long a time
Since I was scramblin' down in the street
Now they got me used to that clean white linen
And that fancy French cologne
Oh Carey get out your cane
I'll put on my finest silver
We'll go to the Mermaid Café
Have fun tonight
I said, Oh, you're a mean old Daddy but I like you
But you're out of sight
© 1970; Joni Mitchell
Date: Sat, December 26, 2009, 00:40:28 ET
Posted by: Shark DeVille, home at last
speaking of Joni Mitchell, has anyone heard Don & Walt's take on "Carey"??? I'd really like to get my hands on a copy of that.
Another top-notch poet and songwriter I've been delving deeply into lately is the late great Gene Clark. I wonder about the connections between Gene and the Dan... D&W have both stated they were Byrds fans, and Thomas Jefferson Kaye produced Gene's opus 'No Other' album just a year or so after recording the Becker/Fagen songs "Jones" and "American Lovers" with D&W.
Date: Fri, December 25, 2009, 23:07:05 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @home
Merry Christmas or (insert the holiday you celebrate here) to all you Dan Fans. May everyone be happy and safe and enjoy the company of friends and family for they are the true gifts in our lives.
KC
Date: Fri, December 25, 2009, 14:33:34 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Merry Christmas to all. Just listening to my Holy Grail,Saratoga 93.
My first show, my daughter packaged it up for X-mas gift.Gonna wear this sucker out!!No matter what you celebrate,Don Patrol gonna tell you twice, Peace and Love to all.
Date: Fri, December 25, 2009, 11:46:41 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, Santa's Village
Merry Christmas to you Hoops and all of Dandom! Have a great Holiday Season!
Here's hoping 2010 brings us some new Steely tunes!
Mark in the North Pole
Date: Thurs, December 24, 2009, 19:56:07 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
just in time for the holidays: a FREE holiday bonus track from Keith Carlock's band Rudder...it's a Rudderized version of an old holiday classic, perfect for listening to while you roast your chestnuts! just go to their website and sign up for their mailing list!
http://ruddermusic.com/
Merry Christmas and happy holidays to my Steely pals!
Date: Thurs, December 24, 2009, 18:45:32 ET
Posted by: Rajah, greeting cards have been sent
Peace to you Dandom.
Date: Thurs, December 24, 2009, 17:19:52 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, So this is Christmas?
Just wanted to wish everyone on the Bluebook a very Merry Christmas! Here's hoping for a new year filled with Fagen albums and Steely Dan shows.
Hope the next few days are filled with love, food, and family for all you fellow Dan lovers.
May visions of Black Cows dance in your heads.
Happy Holidays!
Young Wu
Date: Thurs, December 24, 2009, 12:48:48 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Thanks, Denise.
That Steely Dan also has balls.
Date: Thurs, December 24, 2009, 09:50:18 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the run, Merry Christmas!
Joni Mitchell, along side Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen and Van Morrison, are all great poets. Bonnie Raitt is not in that echelon.
I've seen Dylan and Van countless times; Leonard finally this year and Bonnie Raitt once about 15 years ago. Her show was OK, but I've been indifferent about seeing her again, even if she just came on to sing "Dirty Work" at a Steely Dan show as she did in the past few years. Maybe I would change my perception if I actually had heard her version of "Dirty Work".
Sadly, I've never been able to see Joni Mitchell, although I own pretty much everyone of her albums--I especially love "Shadows and Light" (pretty much featuring Pat Metheny's band with Michael Brecker). I think that live album is a great entry point for many Steely Dan fans who might not be as familiar with her or think of her as a granola lady from the late 60s. Her takes on "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" and "The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines" on "Shadows and Light" are damn amazing as is much of the rest of the double album. The only thing on the album that I'm indifferent about is "Woodstock".
I really didn't appreciate Dylan fully until 1989's "Oh Mercy!" which Dylan has since said that he doesn't like Daniel Lanois' production work. But it's my favorite Dylan. He's had some of his finest albums in the past decade or so. His Christmas album is getting lousy reviews, but check out his "Must Be Santa" video on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plVjC15jhtw Be sure to stick around for about 1:50 in when it gets even funnier.
Joni Michell has said that she used to think Leonard Cohen was the great boudoir poet; now she just thinks Lenny is funny. I agree. Through the early 80s, he seemed so dark and seductive and oblique. Since then, he's really funny and better than ever. Of all of these, I think modern Leonard Cohen is the closest to our favorite duo: Like both DF and WB, LC doesn't have a conventionally gorgeous singing voice, but they are witty, understand Jazz and are very meticulous.
I better run...
Fly low and be cool,
Jim
Date: Wed, December 23, 2009, 23:30:41 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Chris,
Thanks for posting the link to your show with Jamal's Black Cow. While I'm not crazy about his version of the song, your play list is very nice.
Keep up the good work! I'll try to check out some more.
Happy Holidays!
Date: Wed, December 23, 2009, 15:35:27 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Oh my dear poster, how I echo your well wrought out sentiments, Bonnie and Joni had a ton of heart, something we need more of these days. True artists. Different, certainly, but similar in that respect. Great women, spaveltose, breathtaking performers.
Date: Wed, December 23, 2009, 15:06:04 ET
Posted by: Your Gold Keith, nyc
Greetings, one and all DanFans - it's been a while since I've written...Happy Whatevers to whatever applies to you and youses...
Dan Related Thing: Just found out that there is a film about William S. Burroughs which will will open the Slamdance Film Festival in 2010.
William S. Burroughs: A Man Within, will premier January 22nd.
On filmmaker, Yony Leyser:
Yony Leyser is a twenty-five-year-old filmmaker living in Chicago, Illinois, USA. He has directed several short films. William S. Burroughs: A Man Within, his first feature film. He also works as a curator, video artist and photographer, documenting people who are outside the mainstream of society.
This link is one for kickstarter, and is a site to assist in the films funding.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/williamburroughs/william-s-burroughs-a-man-within-0
However, there is an official film site as well...
http://www.burroughsthemovie.com/
enjoy!
ygk
Date: Wed, December 23, 2009, 12:54:21 ET
Posted by: anymanleft, rio grande
I find the Joni/Bonnie comparison very interesting in that I have been a big fan of both over the years but never looked at them side-by-side before. Ever since "Blender Blues" I've thought of Bonnie as a quasi country/folky type singer with a great voice and distinct style. She can make you melt with her emotion and laugh with her humor, all at the same time.But I've held Joni at a higher level because of how she was always pushing the envelope, taking her music to new levels. She was the trailblazer for so many other musicians because she wasn't afraid to take chances. And she backed it up with her own personal perspective on life and love and the world with amazing lyrics and music from the best musicians she could find.IMO,they are true Americana music treasures who never got the credit they deserve because they stayed away from the mainstream, just like Don and Walt.
Date: Wed, December 23, 2009, 10:35:26 ET
Posted by: Donald Fagen on, Canadian televison in January!
Innovators In Music is "a new series of documentary profiles on six dynamic musicians from a variety of genres, backgrounds, and disciplines. The series premieres on Bravo! Canada on January 7, 2010 at 8:00PM EST with the Steve Earle episode. The rest of the programs include: Steve Earle, Levon Helm, Mickey Hart, Dave Stewart, Billy Bragg and Sonic Youth."
About the Levon Helm espisode:
January 14 - Levon Helm Come celebrate Helm's "Midnight Ramble Sessions: 69th Birthday Edition" directly from his home in Woodstock, NY, with his all-star band including Donald Fagen and Larry Campbell.
On the series official homepage you can find the quote: Innovators takes viewers behind-the-scenes into Levon's kitchen where the musicians work on te music together before the show. (Look for half of Steely Dan on the recorder!)
http://www.innovatorsinmusic.com/
http://originalspintv.blogspot.com/search/label/Innovators%20in%20Music
Happy Holidays and see you on the Steely Dan 2010 tour!
Date: Wed, December 23, 2009, 09:57:36 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
you guys ever hear Ahmad Jamal's cover of Black Cow? You can here
http://wunh.org/index.php?menutype=Schedule/Listen&page=listen.php&day=0¤thour=18&hours=2
about 45 minutes into the second feed (the one that reads "Radio Show from Mon 19")
shameless self promotion alert! this is part of my weekly show on the station, Monday Night Jazz. never mind my crappy transitions and talk backs -- it's a college radio station, whadayawant?
Date: Wed, December 23, 2009, 01:22:02 ET
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Date: Tues, December 22, 2009, 23:34:13 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Dan, I agree. SD concerts are not nearly loud enough, in my experience. But, then again, I like my music LOUD (as long as it is clean).
Merry Christmas/Whatever everyone.
Date: Tues, December 22, 2009, 18:39:09 ET
Posted by: Dan Puglisi ,
"not as loud as their concerts but loud)"
You got to be f%&king kidding me!
Date: Tues, December 22, 2009, 13:55:10 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
The key to Black Cow, and most of Fagen/Dan is to play it LOUD!! (not as loud as their concerts but loud), to hear the entire playing field.
Unless this albums are listened to on vinyl, they sound plastic and perverse...loud they become ORGANIC, and make even a Lawrence Welk drummer sound funky.
Important to remember that Donald as is often the case is doubling his voice - to do this - it's an old chorale singing trick: you emphasize the vowels and use little vibrato. The Beach Boys, doo wop, and barbershop music employ this to a T. Donald was using a little echo on Aja and particularly Gaucho, so this effect is magnified The voice becomes another instrument in the band, piquing the harmonies.
Speaking of doubling and harmonies, ya geezers need to take a listen to Liam Finn, son of Neil, mine MMT Beatles and add edge missing from his Dad's music in over a decade. I'll be Lightning is quite a creative find - Liam plays all the instruments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0A8HygsWYg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSyr-jlXSjo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80gMk22D6bg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUafGn3vJ3U&feature=related
Date: Tues, December 22, 2009, 13:03:32 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
JD, Bonnie's very moving performance on I Can't Make You Love Me on record and also on that UTube clip which I just viewed was very clean, I don't particularly like vibrato and all those vocal pyrotechnics either unless executed with great control. I love supple and sustained open notes, like Donald on the very end of Black Cow. Bonnie who like DF almost quit the music business in the 80s, heck her performance on this song remains as moving as Patsy Cline's "Crazy." What I think I was getting at about Joni is that she was a great songwriter. But whether in possession of an astounding technique or just a simply clear, intoned voice, it's the honesty of the delivery, is it not, that counts the most. Singing is like acting and the very best do not feign or pretend as many people belive, they are being dead honest. They believe.
Pavarotti had that. In buckets.
Date: Tues, December 22, 2009, 12:14:26 ET
Posted by: bigsbyvibe, ann arbor
for similar sublimely subtle stylizations sung sans training
i recommend Carl Wilson
he didn't even need no stinking reverb
Date: Tues, December 22, 2009, 09:05:27 ET
Posted by: bassicinstinct, Nottingham UK
Jaydee:
Spookily, when I read your last post concerning Bonnie (which I totally agree with, by the way), I was watching her "Road Tested" DVD and the track which was playing was "I Can't Make You Love Me"!! LOL
Serendipity eh?
Date: Tues, December 22, 2009, 09:01:37 ET
Posted by: book search, bs
New York Magazine column on Fagen at the time of the release of Kamakiriad.
http://tinyurl.com/ydqjwsj
Date: Tues, December 22, 2009, 04:25:34 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Raj - the Joni thing - yes, I think you are right that, when it comes to vocals, I am mostly a 'blues' person, in that I am certainly not a fan of vocal 'technique'. With opera (a rare pleasure these days) I always enjoy the spectacle, but often hate the singing - all that vibrato, falsetto, coloratura nonsense. There's a youtube clip of Bonnie singing the sublime 'I Can't Make You Love Me', where she holds a long pure note with no vibrato at all - spine-tingling. Must be why I enjoy DF's vocals so much - I guess he must have had some vocal tuition at some point, but bel canto it ain't.
YGT 2 - I always interpreted it (on a vague level) as being about the protagonist's own children - those 'hostages to fortune' whose upbringing is both a gamble and an expense, but who can suddenly turn into strange alien beings, making life seem 'unreal'. The 'strangers' are the new friends they bring home, undermining the authority you thought you had established over your own kids. Just shows that SD lyrics are nothing if not multi-faceted, and open to diverse interpretation.
Incidently - while googling to find out whether 'cover your action' has any esoteric US meaning, first thing I found was an article written by a lawyer called Donald Becker ... spooky.
Will try to hear the Radio 4 prog tomorrow - will be interesting to hear Brian Sweet, and Hepworth is an always intelligent music journalist.
Date: Tues, December 22, 2009, 02:17:16 ET
Posted by: Rajah, Je te dis merci merci
San Nicole in Bari? I think we can forgive any oversights on that basis.
Love Apulia; Foggia, Lecce, Brindisi, Taranto. Best cuisine on the peninsula...fohgettaboutit.
Oh and how about those Italians' gift for the runaround?
Date: Tues, December 22, 2009, 01:35:14 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Oh, great. I get back from Bari and the Feast of St. Nicholas, and I got the news that not only is jumping off the HOLLYWOOD sign becoming a tradition, but I've gotten my "Your Gold Teeth"'s mixed up. All I can say is, "Oh my goodness. I must have sent the wrong negatives to the police! I mean..." Yeah, the story for YGT2 is mostly the same, but it's the self-doubting, spent, wrinkled queen version.
Talk about your maxima culpa. That's what a guy gets for coming here not so much for renewal but for solstice.
If you look up 'synergy' in your dictionary, seems like B&F's pictures should be there with the "see Steely Dan."
Date: Mon, December 21, 2009, 21:16:16 ET
Posted by: Bobbo, Deep into the Greenbook, West Texas...
Hey Y'all,
I wanted to wish all of the Danners a happy and wild Christmas, or whichever version of the solstice you call your own. I've missed you all this last time around, but Hell--you can't make 'em all, y'know. Suffice to say that I'm happy and making many nice performances still, and I think of you all quite often...
Don't know when we'll do it again, but I look forward to it, for sure. All Friendlies, please note: the new "permanent" email addy is stored here, on Hoops' nifty pager-board-thingy, so get in touch, if you please, and let's reconnect. Love and Peace to you all, and remember to let it swing! Selah.
Okay,
Bobbo
Date: Mon, December 21, 2009, 19:49:58 ET
Posted by: BBC Radio 4 repeat: December 23, Take Two: Walter Becker & Donald Fagen
23:30/11:30 p.m. local time.
"Richard Coles presents a discussion series looking at collaborations between two musicians.
Richard analyses the partnership between Walter Becker and Donald Fagen, who formed the band Steely Dan in 1971. He is joined by author Brian Sweet and music journalist David Hepworth to analyse how the collaboration between Becker and Fagen developed and what effect it had on the popular music of the time. The programme also features extracts of some of the band's music and archives of interviews given by the band members over the years."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00h30yr
Date: Mon, December 21, 2009, 19:24:08 ET
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Date: Mon, December 21, 2009, 17:30:23 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
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Date: Mon, December 21, 2009, 14:53:00 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
Happy holidays and best wishes to all in the new year.
Thanks to the band & crew for another enjoyable year.
Best to you, Walaka.
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzewy83y/sdxmas2009/
Date: Sun, December 20, 2009, 23:40:56 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Very good discussion on News. Based on the original lyrics, the female in question is likely in the soft porn industry... along with Peg. Yes and it's about passing down oral traditions.
Date: Sun, December 20, 2009, 18:24:36 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba, the dirty south
Wild guess --
Awesome find. "Buzz" sounds like a really interesting guy, the type that our heroes would have gravitated to.
I also see that "Buzz", for 60 years, lived "up on the Hill".
Date: Sat, December 19, 2009, 11:56:49 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
OK, well, Gold Teeth II, it's about gambling on the ephemeral level, the first level, but it's more about the beings who speak with their wings and the way that they smile. I am always reminded of the Seraphic angels. You know there's two kind of angels in our Judeo-Christian tradition: the Cherubims who are depicetd as beautiful little infants riding on clouds, derivative quite obviously from Eros, Cupid as we call him now, a being who brings love and is gentle. But the Seraphims were angels of great power whom were sent with flaming swords to do things like set fire to Soddam and Gommorah. Michael and Gabriel. These are not guys you want to fuck with.
And YGT II is a cautionary tale of the dangers of excess.
Just my take folks.
Date: Sat, December 19, 2009, 10:15:59 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
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YGT2? Women and men are different. A woman always knows when she's going to get to have sex: whenever she says. Next plane, I'm going to be a good looking woman and smile whenever I need/want some/any thing.
Date: Sat, December 19, 2009, 08:39:30 ET
Posted by: ?,
Better yet, let's see a detailed explanation of Your Gold Teeth II, that is if anyone can figure out what the hell that's supposed to be about.
Date: Sat, December 19, 2009, 07:42:51 ET
Posted by: Redux,
That would be, "if," Donald only had this problem.
Date: Sat, December 19, 2009, 07:12:04 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
JD - I got it, you're a blues person. Bonnie is great, strong, but she's no Joni. Of course she knows she packs a superior vocal instrument and sometimes, it's true, technique gets in the way of the music. Donald only had this vocal problem.
Everyone should have a pair of lead lined skivvies, they come in handy for when you're getting attacked and also when you need to give yourself a good hit in the head. I wear them everyday. The dry cleaning bills, however, are prohibitive.
Date: Sat, December 19, 2009, 06:43:48 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
And Jaydee, I did so enjoy your iambs.
Date: Sat, December 19, 2009, 06:06:07 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Man, you guys: There I was all this time thinking about Patty Hearst waking up in Stockholm, when I could have been having a row as a wanker. I should hit myself in the head occasionally with Raj's lead underwear (Why do people have to be so mean?). For me it was all about "News." Don't forget those Lark cigarettes.
Joni. Way to use that Cheech and Chong.
So Beaubo gets me to thinking for a moon, or so. I have my accountant crunch some numbers. If 2,000 of us ponied up 3 bills each, maybe we could call the tunes. Frontline might have a venue they could suggest. I've spent more on less.
Happy days, y'all. And Peace Be the Journey.
Oh, yeah. I'll see if I can find (and dust off) my "Ma Belle Amie."
Date: Sat, December 19, 2009, 05:43:29 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Actress/singer Juliette Lewis just now on BBC Radio 4's 'inheritance tracks' spot chose 'Peg' as the song she 'inherited' from her father, and had a stab at explaining its appeal, then chose 'Voodoo Chile' as the song she would pass on (that's it - you only get to choose two).
Raj - that Joni vid does of course show her doing what she does best (also tenuous Dan connection with Levon Helm on drums), and I just can't quite fathom why it leaves me a little cold. Maybe it's that she seems to slightly over-exploit her god-given vocal facility - dunno. I'll work on it - maybe try to compare her with Bonnie Raitt (who does do it for me) and see if that reveals anything.
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 23:49:30 ET
Posted by: Gauchoamigo, North Hollywood
It is my interpertation that, "Slow down, I'll tell you when, I may never walk again." refers to anal sex. Gay guys would know this. If you go in too fast, it hurts too much. They need a moment to get used to it. The song could be about two guys, but probably not.
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 23:05:39 ET
Posted by: not my , screamer
There you have it. It's about Feldman's piano, not the narrator's organ as others have suggested.
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 21:57:23 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
JD - I'm shocked, OK, maybe Joni is a very American artist, perhaps there's a bit of a cultural gap here. But listen to this and tell me that it doesn't move you in any way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSZcK48cTiU
I Got the News was all about Victor Feldman's piano. His son played it for me and SteeveDan one day. It is so dissonent and so perfect in its strangeness, convolted and weird. That is really the core of the song, not the sex stuff.
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 21:43:33 ET
Posted by: CerpinTaxt, Boston!
Wow! I'm diggin' all the discussion! Not My Screamer, funny you bring that up, I'm watching the Aja Classic Albums right now on Veoh.
IIRC, I Got The News wasn't featured because they had lost/someone stole the masters to it. It's a shame!
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 21:21:38 ET
Posted by: not my, screamer
I Got the News is explicit yet curiously surreptitious in its vulgarity. Something Prince never quite figured out how to pull off.
It's also become one of my favorites to hear live. I like how Donald comes close to blowing his wad of syllables in each stanza too quickly but is able to stretch out the last one.
It was the only track not featured on Making of Aja DVD. Maybe outtakes will surface someday.
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 20:51:57 ET
Posted by: Arnie Headd,
"Slow down I'll tell you when
I may never walk again."
The narrator wants the blow job to last... a good one makes you feel like you can't walk/stand... it bring you to yo' knees, boy!
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 16:59:43 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Never did get Joni - don't know why, just find her voice a tad, well, annoying. Same with Ella. I'll try harder.
Cerpin Taxt - interesting analysis, but think you are trying to be too 'precise' - always seems to me that SD lyrics are deliberately blurry / impressionistic rather than precise. Though I seem to remember some idea (from somewhere) that 'the news' was some kind of STD.
Fascinating stuff in that Barrytown article - Buzz, Peg - just coincidence ?
Python's reference was to the Larch I think, not Lark.
Nice to see Pete Erskine endorsing my electro-kit of choice, the Roland V-drum set-up. Have dropped subtle hints about the Carlock DVD for Christmas, so fingers crossed !
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 14:39:42 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Cerpin Taxt - nicely done. The Lark was indeed a cheaply made car from the early 60s produced by a now defunct company called Studebaker. But like a lot of Steely Dan passages it has a double entendre encoded in there. Which you picked up on.
Sirens is also a reference to the song that the seductresses of the Mediterranean island Sirenum Scopoli who lured sailors to their death on their rocky shore. So Ulysses had his men fill their ears with wax so they couldn't hear their song whilst he had himself tied to the mast so he could hear but not do something stupid. Home at Last, of course.
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 14:28:40 ET
Posted by: Alaudidae, Perching
The lark is a bird; approx. 75 species including the popular skylark; Buick named a car this, hence the previous posts ref. And yes, a very funny Monty Python sketch continually made ref to #whatever-"The Lark" being a tree.
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 14:19:53 ET
Posted by: Eric Idle, Pythonland
How to identify trees: #6 - "The Lark"
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 12:58:21 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Wild Guess - that was genius.
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 12:25:27 ET
Posted by: Wild, Guess
I think Broadway Duchess refers to "Peg" from "Barrytown" in "Dutchess" county whose husband "Buzz" was director of admissions at "Bard."
http://www.abouttown.us/dutchess/articles/fall07/buzz.shtml
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 10:11:11 ET
Posted by: An Old Friend, ...
Joni Mitchell's "Both Sides Now" release in 2000 is incredible...It's a concept album that traces the progress of the modern relationship through orchestral renditions of classic jazz songs...Two of her own songs are also included, "A Case of You" (1971) and "Both Sides Now" (1969)...This version of "Both Sides Now" done 31 years after the original is quite stunning and a deeply reflective look back...
Oh...And a "Lark" is an automobile, yes?
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 08:37:14 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Feeling dumb...
CerpinTaxt, great interpretation. Makes (almost) perfect sense now. Thank you very much.
Date: Fri, December 18, 2009, 01:23:03 ET
Posted by: CerpinTaxt (21 Years Old, Semi-Young), Boston!
YoungWu,
I'll break it down the way I understand it, face value. Long interpretation short, I think either the narrator or the female in question is a virgin, and the other person is well-versed in the art of sex:
You
In your Lark
You're a mark
You're a screamer
You know
How to hustle
A lark is "a merry, carefree adventure; frolic; escapade." I take screamer to mean she is loud in the sack.
Daddy
Is a rare
Millionaire
I don't care
Yeah you
Got the muscle
I got the news
Her dad may be rich (is that too literal?), but our narrator doesn't care. She's got what he's looking for and it's between her legs. "The news," I deduced earlier, is likely his male member. Think of it in the context of delivering or giving 'the news' to someone, and the dirty way it could be perceived.
Yes dear
How did you know
Can't you see our love will grow
I could get some flack for this part. It's hard for me to figure out exactly how it fits in to the whole story, but I think "Yes dear" etc is the narrator positively commenting on the girl's prowess. A more proper way of saying "Holy fuck, don't stop, keep doing that, you are making (body part) so (adjective)."
Take it
In your hand
All the sirens
And the band
Get to bendin' my ear
How
Was I to know
About the warm
Soulful secret
You been keepin' for years
I got the news
The "it" in "take it" is the narrator's penis. There is music playing, the city noises outside the window, all of these external sounds and events are making the hook-up more and more exciting. He finds out one of two things. Either a) she is a virgin and the warm soulful secret is her vagina/virginity OR b) our narrator is a virgin and is feeling the pleasures of intercourse for the first time ever, the feeling that girls have been keeping from him for years, because he is a virgin, a loser. "The news," once again, is his penis.
Slow down I'll tell you when
I may never walk again
This could be either the guy or the girl talking. Maybe the girl is coaching him on how to "do it right" or vice versa. Maybe the guy is trying to make sure he doesn't "finish" prematurely.
Broadway Duchess
Darling if you only knew
Half as much as
Everybody thinks you do
What I hear
May be true
I would still be proud
To know you
Not really sure about this part.
Spanish kissin'
See it glisten
You came ragin'
Love rampagin'
I got the news
Another website translated this as cunnilingus. Makes sense. "See it glisten" and "Came raging," red flags.
Yes dear
How did you know
Can't you see our love will grow
This is a line from the original, Katy Lied outtake:
This thing that I found
It's got to explode
The time has come
I know I've got to unload
I think that one is pretty clear.
So that's it, in a nutshell. My first SD interpretation. I wish that Fever Dreams website was still up.
Apologies to anyone if my above interpretation was over the line in any way. I tried to be as graceful as possible explaining it.
Date: Thurs, December 17, 2009, 20:45:51 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Too young? Too innocent?
Ok, I'm sorry... how the hell is I Got the News very dirty? I never understood that one, and I've heard it described like that dozens of times.
I hope I'm not sounding ignorant, but what is this song about that is so filthy?
Date: Thurs, December 17, 2009, 18:18:06 ET
Posted by: Rajah, it's really love's illusions I recall
Noo-no, the best way, dear sir or madam, Joni is our Princess, our prize and our joy. Both Sides Now is a song that I will always and forever hold in my heart. Even a 7th grader could get it.
Here it is, with your kind indulgence:
Bows and flows of angel hair and ice cream castles in the air
And feather canyons everywhere, i've looked at clouds that way.
But now they only block the sun, they rain and snow on everyone.
So many things i would have done but clouds got in my way.
I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
From up and down, and still somehow
It's cloud illusions i recall.
I really don't know clouds at all.
Moons and Junes and ferris wheels, the dizzy dancing way you feel
As every fairy tale comes real; i've looked at love that way.
But now it's just another show. you leave 'em laughing when you go
And if you care, don't let them know, don't give yourself away.
I've looked at love from both sides now,
From give and take, and still somehow
It's love's illusions i recall.
I really don't know love at all.
Tears and fears and feeling proud to say "i love you" right out loud,
Dreams and schemes and circus crowds, i've looked at life that way.
But now old friends are acting strange, they shake their heads, they say
I've changed.
Something's lost but something's gained in living every day.
I've looked at life from both sides now,
From win and lose, and still somehow
It's life's illusions i recall.
I really don't know life at all.
Date: Thurs, December 17, 2009, 18:17:01 ET
Posted by: Travelling Minstrel, The Southland
Concerning Joni---the mid 70's albums are in my view works of absolute genius, especially Hejira. The last two minutes or so of Paprika Plains (from Don Juan's Reckless Daughter)- with Jaco and Wayne Shorter is beyond brilliant.
I must admit however to losing interest in the 80's and have not heard much since. Am I missing something special with the albums after Wild Things Run Fast and Dog Eat Dog?
Date: Thurs, December 17, 2009, 15:54:46 ET
Posted by: P.N., USA
I first learned of Joni Mitchell in 7th grade music class, when we would have to sing Both Sides Now. I (and the rest of the class) dismissed it as lightweight fluff. Was this the wrong way to be introduced?
Date: Thurs, December 17, 2009, 15:51:57 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Oh, dirty, c'mon, as long as there is trust and care in love, nothing is dirty. It's all play, as long as there is profound respect. But yes, I Got the News is a bit naughty.
Joni, my goodness, what a majestic artist.
Date: Thurs, December 17, 2009, 15:41:47 ET
Posted by: CerpinTaxt, Boston!
After going back and listening to the Katy Lied outtake of I Got The News on a whim, my brain got to working. I looked at the lyrics to the Aja version. Then I realized...
I Got The News is dirty. Very dirty.
Date: Thurs, December 17, 2009, 13:53:31 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -
Fellow Joni lovers:
Supposedly the Dan Duo recorded a cover of "Carey" for some Joni Mitchell tribute, but the song was never included in the final tracklist.
Is this song out there?
I would probably die if I heard it.
Date: Thurs, December 17, 2009, 13:04:06 ET
Posted by: anymanleft, rio grande
oops,typo. I meant "sentiments"
Date: Thurs, December 17, 2009, 12:45:34 ET
Posted by: anymanleft, rio grande
I echo the recent setiments about Joni. As I've posted here before, I think she is the most important female artist(singer,writer,performer and literal artist) in the past 50 years. And I know there are a few of us who share that belief today.Unfortunately, it may take her passing and years of time to go by before the rest of the world realizes it.
Date: Thurs, December 17, 2009, 01:01:02 ET
Posted by: Rajah, will you take me as I am
That clip of Joni was magic and echo most all of my sentiments.
Date: Wed, December 16, 2009, 12:46:09 ET
Posted by: Sparkle of your China, home
Fagenism-
IMO Joni is everything and the most important musician of all time.
I live and breath her artistry every day.
Here is a wonderful treasure trove for you.
http://www.youtube.com/user/henhenstoll
Date: Wed, December 16, 2009, 08:36:42 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown cubicle
Kalvin, Don Breithaupt's book "Steely Dan's Aja" is an interesting read.
Date: Wed, December 16, 2009, 00:55:49 ET
Posted by: wazza, Los Angeles, CA
Stephen Hurwitz! Tried to reply to your email. I cannot get past your Earthlink Spam Blocker. What can you do to help?
Date: Tues, December 15, 2009, 23:31:53 ET
Posted by: wazza, Los Angeles, CA
Oh yeah. I forgot to mention the SD T-Shirts and Baseball Caps.
Date: Tues, December 15, 2009, 23:24:31 ET
Posted by: wazza, Los Angeles, CA
I am selling a large amount of Steely Dan, Donald Fagen & Walter Becker collectable memorabilia for a friend. The collection includes autographed album covers, 45rpm Singles, posters, promotional items and media kits, photos, songbooks, sheet music, fridge magnets, magazines, Metal Leg Fanzines, and many other ultra-rare items I'm sure you would be interested in knowing about. Please contact me directly for a complete list of items that are available, before they hit either eBay or Craigslist. Email vocalsfromhell@yahoo.com
Thanks!
Date: Tues, December 15, 2009, 21:07:03 ET
Posted by: falalalala, Baltimore,eh
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091215/ap_en_ot/us_music_miles_davis
Date: Tues, December 15, 2009, 19:53:37 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Good to hear from you, Kalvin.
I would go for Donald Fagen's "Concepts For Jazz/Rock Piano DVD" and Keith Carlock also has a great new video out. I assume that you already have Walter's Circus Money...there's some items to get you started.
What do you think they will add that is new and different to the 2010 dates?
Date: Tues, December 15, 2009, 19:26:31 ET
Posted by: Kalvin, Portsmouth, England
Apologies if this is old hat or has already been done, but can any like minded souls (which in some dimension I assume we all are), recommend any golden nuggets/hidden gems that Santa might like to put in his sack and surprise me with on Christams Day...please. With 'probably' no tour or new output, I fear that horizons require repositioning! Thanx in advance to all for any/all suggestions.
Date: Tues, December 15, 2009, 14:36:48 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Well, ok, I've got it: Antonio Carlos Jobim, a master of melody.
Date: Tues, December 15, 2009, 12:19:40 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -
Rajah:
Thank you for your reply. Joni's journey as a musician and composer is indeed mind-boggling.
I have flirted with some of Miles's music, but for some reason it is not interesting to my ear. Like I mentioned in my previous post, I thrive on structure and memorable melodies. Compared to The Duke, Miles seems way more out there in those respects.
I downloaded Dave Brubeck's "Time out" the other day, which sounds very promising. If you come to think of any other stuff - based on my rather vague preferences - feel free to reply again.
Date: Tues, December 15, 2009, 10:48:18 ET
Posted by: skokiebob, not workin'
Professor Erskine!
http://www.rolandus.com/community/insider/article.php?ArticleId=860&tab=artists
Date: Mon, December 14, 2009, 11:10:36 ET
Posted by: Book Search, bs
This book claims that Pearl of The Quarter was originally cut with Palmer on lead vocals for Can't Buy A Thrill.
http://tinyurl.com/ybnvxjt
Date: Mon, December 14, 2009, 00:45:03 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,
Ann: Thanks for sharing. Rohl is the leading Egyptologist in England. The original Mandalaband rocked...and really only replaced the lead singler and lost David Rohl morphing into Sad Cafe. The Manchester Band was sometimes considered a cousin to Steely Dan, particularly the albums Facades and the jazzier eponymous album produced by fellow Manchester-ite Eric Stewart (10cc)
Here's the late Paul Young with Sad Cafe on Fanx Ta Ra, one of the best tracks of their early stuff. Nice licks by Ashley Mulford:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P_QWBsvmYg&feature=related
Date: Sun, December 13, 2009, 11:50:11 ET
Posted by: Ann, Borneo
Been away from here too long............ hope all is well with Hoops, all on the Blue, and of course, our heroes.
Happy birthday Skunkster!! 61 and still going strong!
A nice link for Doc Mu here - you might like this one - the band that spawned Sad Cafe was Mandalaband - composer/keyboards/producer was Dave Rohl, who has just re-assembled Mandalaband, with some former members, most notably lead guitarist Ashley Mumford. Back then, Rohl was the Chief Engineer at Strawberry Studios in Stockport (Manchester, UK) and recorded 10cc (referred to earlier on the Blue). He later went back to university to become an archaeologist, making documentaries for Discovery. Anyway, he's popped up again with Mandalaband III "BC", a concept album chronicaling early history in the Middle East. Comments welcome (listen through headphones) - this one's "Eden":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQw8QJUXhSM
Band's website: http://mandalaband.co.uk/
Borneo is sizzling!
Peace to all,
Ann
Date: Sun, December 13, 2009, 10:43:13 ET
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Date: Sun, December 13, 2009, 03:48:18 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Joni along with Laura Nyro and Carol King were among our greatest female composers. I liked Leslie Gore, too, she was cute, the hair was a little scary, however. But consider for a moment that Joni as a player started out as a folk singer with a cheap guitar armed with a few chords and ended up playing with some of the greatest ever, Jaco and Mingus. Now that's an evolution devoutly to be wished.
Start with Miles Davis, you can always backtrack from there. Tune into to a good jazz radio station and off you'll go. I envy your journey.
Date: Sat, December 12, 2009, 19:49:20 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -
1. I wrote a post about Joni Mitchell a while back. Having added a few more weeks of deep listening to my Mitchell account, I can now say with a bit more certainty that she is indeed otherworldly. Her voice, her sense of harmony, he compositions... Any Steely Dan fan should definitely give her a chance, especially the stuff she recorded with bass legend Jaco.
2. There has been some discussion about The Duke recently. I would like a recommendation on how to sail deeper into jazz land. Preferably something with structure and memorable melodies, not unlike The Duke himself. Vocals is a plus. Contemporary is also a plus.
Date: Fri, December 11, 2009, 19:07:19 ET
Posted by: Paul,
Babe Choir/Bare Midriff Section alum, Cynthia Calhoun, is still on the road with Julian Marley who was recently nominated for a Grammy in the category of best reggae album. Coincidentally (or perhaps not), every artist she has toured with has either been nominated or won the coveted prized; several (including Donald & Walter), while she was touring or recording with them.
Anyway...Cynthia is currently in Europe through Dec 23rd. After a short break, the tour will resume and conclude in Australia.
For more info, go to www.cynthiacalhoun.com.
Date: Fri, December 11, 2009, 17:39:01 ET
Posted by: Pooh, Corner
seal = Kenny "Top Gun" Loggins
Date: Fri, December 11, 2009, 17:36:52 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Rest In Peace My Brother John
It has been 29 years now, you are always in my thoughts. "
Amen !!!!!
RIP John .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gcdz1IRVoM
Joey
Date: Fri, December 11, 2009, 16:03:17 ET
Posted by: Trivia, Q
Which yacht rocker did Fagen reportedly once categorize as "a seal" because he clapped his hands non stop on stage?
Date: Fri, December 11, 2009, 02:49:52 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
"really enjoyed the Kanye West 'Kid C' sample thang that someone recently posted a link to !"
WHY?
Well yeah - good question as I don't usually go for that kind of thing. Maybe it was the way DF's repeated 'your eyes' became kinda mesmerising, or that the rap actually seemed to be more melodic and less aggressive than usual. Someone on youtube has put up a mix using more of the original Kid C, and one of the comments is "omg, who is that old guy? he has a great voice" - so it's at least spreading the word !
Date: Fri, December 11, 2009, 01:28:15 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Wow, the Rosie Vela songs don't suck at all. Interesting, winding melodies and Eye to Eye era musicianship.
Date: Fri, December 11, 2009, 01:20:00 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Raj, Dean: That sounds about right.
Date: Thurs, December 10, 2009, 16:09:02 ET
Posted by: If you're, Interested
Krantz, Carlock, Lefebvre tonight at Sullivan Hall in NYC.
Date: Thurs, December 10, 2009, 15:55:07 ET
Posted by: Do You, Google?
Nope. The Ambrosia singer is David Pack, and the "Undecided" singer is Keith Thomas.
Date: Thurs, December 10, 2009, 15:46:21 ET
Posted by: CerpinTaxt, Boston!
Just a quick question:
Currently listening to Ambrosia's "Biggest Part of Me," one of my new favorite jams thanks to Pandora.
I couldn't help but notice the vocalist sounds strikingly similar to the lead vocalist on the pre-SD track "Undecided."
Can anyone shed some light on this? Is it the same vocalist?
Date: Thurs, December 10, 2009, 15:04:03 ET
Posted by: I think Dupree, needs a life
You call that "a clear sign"? I call that grabbing at straws.
Date: Thurs, December 10, 2009, 15:02:45 ET
Posted by: I think Dupree,
You call that "a clear sign"? I call that grabbing at straws.
Date: Thurs, December 10, 2009, 13:50:45 ET
Posted by: pixeleen, snowbound
"Secret Steely Dan message revealed ! ".....over on the Radio Dupree home page....
Very curious !!
Date: Thurs, December 10, 2009, 08:47:59 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I don't know much about Banacos except that he was a great teacher. Wayne Krantz, Mike Stern. For that alone, his memory should be regarded with respect.
Date: Thurs, December 10, 2009, 00:12:38 ET
Posted by: Dave from Acquisitions, Boston
I received the sad news that jazz pianist and educator Charlie Banacos has passed.
http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/showthread.php?p=497024
I know many Dan fans have a deep appreciation for Jazz and it's possible some of the readers on the Blue may have even studied with him.
Charlie Banacos RIP
Date: Wed, December 09, 2009, 17:50:04 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl, passim
If anyone here is familiar with the engaging music/pop culture blog Popdose, you've probably seen Dave Steed's weekly article, Bottom Feeders: The Ass End of the 80's, by his description an alphabetical rundown of 'songs from the bottom three-fifths of the Billboard Hot 100 chart during the 1980s'.
Today's post ends with a short blurb on the band Sneaker, of whom I must confess I was unaware. Please don't revoke my Danfan credentials.
http://popdose.com/bottom-feeders-the-ass-end-of-the-80s-part-81/
Date: Wed, December 09, 2009, 16:24:09 ET
Posted by: Don Puglisi , Merrick, NY
I saw Rosie Vela's show at the Ritz in NYC in 1987 or maybe '88. She sounded good but her voice wasn't big enough to fill that big venue. I think Rick Derringer was playing guitar and I saw Gary Katz there.
Date: Wed, December 09, 2009, 16:20:53 ET
Posted by: luke,
"really enjoyed the Kanye West 'Kid C' sample thang that someone recently posted a link to !"
WHY?
Date: Wed, December 09, 2009, 14:19:39 ET
Posted by: t'girl, gtmla
Here's a link to Mel Torme's video singing Good Bye Look.This is gold.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NjwcsHbcDE&feature=related
Date: Wed, December 09, 2009, 14:16:47 ET
Posted by: t'girl, guatamala
Here's a link to Rosie Vela's Magic Smile. Amazing beautiful music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwaiZL51H6I&feature=related
Date: Wed, December 09, 2009, 03:11:45 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Link worked for me. Never did get to hear Zazu so googled to find this youtube video of 'Interlude', which article says was the track that DF liked the most. Didn't knock me out on first listen, but hey. Clearly Jim Keltner on drums and bassist is Jimmy Haslip I think, rather than WB as one of the comments claims.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du6RmQQCxQc
BTW - really enjoyed the Kanye West 'Kid C' sample thang that someone recently posted a link to !
Date: Tues, December 08, 2009, 21:37:21 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Book search- Thanks, but how about a link that works?
Date: Tues, December 08, 2009, 20:13:17 ET
Posted by: Book search, bs
Fairly detailed account of the Rosie Vela collaboration, and probably the source of the rumors at the time that a new SD album was in the works.
http://tinyurl.com/yeulym9
Date: Tues, December 08, 2009, 17:16:57 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Reports of my demise are greatly exaggerated, In fact, I'm very simply demised. Or rather I'm caught up in the throes of my final finals week.
That said, I just wanted to stick my head and the door and point out that Dave Brubeck was among the recognized at the Kennedy Center Honors this past weekend. It's about time!
Gotta run...
"I hear you're mad about Brubeck…"
Jim
Date: Tues, December 08, 2009, 10:33:35 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
www.keithcarlock.com updated with a new look and a few performances listed...
Date: Tues, December 08, 2009, 09:35:32 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Raj,
According to that Ellington book, Roger (The Immortal) Nichols banged the gong at the end of the song.
T. Rex reference mostly unavoidable.
Date: Tues, December 08, 2009, 08:04:20 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Well, Toodle-ooh, I believe it was Jim Gordon on drums on that Ellington cover, Walter on bass, Skunk Baxter on guitar, I believe Dean Parks on the banjo, nice performance there. But it's Donald on acoustic piano and...wait for it... alto sax, yes. Maybe the sax is doubled, probably. Don't know who added the gong.
But that's also Walter on wah-wah guitar, early wah-wah pedal technology, no talk box.
Pretty good, huh?
Date: Tues, December 08, 2009, 00:01:59 ET
Posted by: Ringo, Strawberry Fields
Rest In Peace My Brother John
It has been 29 years now, you are always in my thoughts.
Date: Mon, December 07, 2009, 22:38:19 ET
Posted by: toodle-oooooh,
Is that a muted trumpet on E. St Louis Toodle-oo?
OR a sustained guitar "wah wah" pedal?
OR that "wah wah" hose in the mouth device that Frampton made famous?
Which session musician performed it in any case?
Date: Mon, December 07, 2009, 18:10:32 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,
Yes, the Ellington article was superbly written - thanks.
Here's New Frontier from the 2008 tour, from natch the Nightfly album
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pluLCgtj_6I
Date: Mon, December 07, 2009, 16:18:47 ET
Posted by: correction, r
That should read "To klaus:.
Date: Mon, December 07, 2009, 16:16:49 ET
Posted by: Klaus,, r
Young tours regularly with JB.
Date: Mon, December 07, 2009, 15:53:31 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, Ohio
Watched a rock and Roll compilation show from 03 over the weekend and I would swear that Herington and Young played running on empty w/ Jackson Browne. Was that the year the Dan was elected and Jackson borrowed a couple of crack players from the boys? Sorry I meant Rock and Roll Hall of Fame concert.
Date: Mon, December 07, 2009, 12:16:13 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
The Ellington influence is huge and palpable in Steely Dan. Thank you for the article, I devoured it.
Even the really old Duke stuff from the 20s holds up, St. East Louis being notable for us, the recording is a little tinny, they've cleaned it up pretty well now though and I always thought of it as a sort of transitional kind of tune, I hear outgoing old ragtime vestiges and the oncoming new jazz era stuff.
Dangerous music, Mother, hold on to your knickers...
Date: Mon, December 07, 2009, 03:12:35 ET
Posted by: t girl, the wee hours
Thanks Book Search, For the sd/Ellington connection link.
Date: Sun, December 06, 2009, 20:05:28 ET
Posted by: hank, Holyoke, Ma
Dean: New Frontier was it as far as the solo songs played on the 2008 tour.
Date: Sun, December 06, 2009, 19:20:13 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar, It's Happy Hour
Book Search,
Thanks for the Ellington link. I'm always shocked when self-proclaimed Danfans don't get the Duke connection.
As for Fagen solo songs on Dan tours, SD played Fagen songs in 2008. New Frontier was played in Clearwater, and other venues as well:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080610100651AAd0Fcy
Date: Sun, December 06, 2009, 18:58:43 ET
Posted by: geo,
Dr. Mu- SD didn't play the Nightfly on the 2008 tour. Wrong again.
Date: Sun, December 06, 2009, 13:34:01 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
MKIA: Again, SD played The Nightfly on the road in 2008 violating your imaginary rule.
I'd love to see a Fagen solo tour in 2010 or 2011, but SD tours rake in more $$$, thus it's doubtful.
Date: Sat, December 05, 2009, 21:06:27 ET
Posted by: book search, us
A book on Duke Ellington. Below is a link to a section about his influence on Steely Dan.
http://tinyurl.com/ydnk35y
Date: Sat, December 05, 2009, 19:28:07 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
Like most other intardnets trolls, Mr. Know-It-All isn't letting objective reality get in the way of his preposterous and flatly wrong "theory." Forget arguing with this guy Ray, it's like punching the tar baby. Luckily Walter and Donald are not exactly sitting around waiting for Mr. K-I-A to tell them how things are.
Date: Sat, December 05, 2009, 00:36:48 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
kzkzkz.
Thanks for the youtube link! My wife and I had a great Boogie Balcony time at that show.For me THE highlight song of the tour,"Daddy",Walt was killer on that tune!
Date: Sat, December 05, 2009, 00:14:21 ET
Posted by: Newerkes, omg, don't you want to know
Jaydee London: I was looking for inspiration until your post. Thx first to woodman et al on the recent DIGEST post to email. OMG, I was enthralled the contributions. Now, Jay--I must go back to my studies--Age of Johnson, reading "Taxation no Tyranny." thx for re-focusing me. It's easy to spot a troll. The same ole punctuation problems. Dittos on most everything in DIGEST. Yep, Waltaire, you need some strange. Yep, let 'er rip, ya'll. Kudos to the orchestra for mesmorizing the world once more. Do whatever you wish; we got yer' backs. nwk and tangle ridge date.
Date: Fri, December 04, 2009, 22:23:24 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
now that the tour is over it's nice to see bluebook has returned to a pissing contest...
Date: Fri, December 04, 2009, 18:48:40 ET
Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, ny
Lurker Ray - We already went through the New Frontier thing below.
"Walter could care less if Don does a solo track"
How much do you want to f&^king bet on that one!!?
Date: Fri, December 04, 2009, 18:31:07 ET
Posted by: The Deal,
For 2008, Fagen said he would play a solo track and Becker could play one of his own solo tracks.
Becker decided to do Gaucho instead. He said concert goers only want to hear Steely Dan tracks.
Date: Fri, December 04, 2009, 18:16:58 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray , Malibu
"This rule (no solo stuff) was instituted after the 2006 tour."
Huh? You're obviously talking
out of your arse.
"New Frontier" was played
nightly in 2008. And it
was because Donald had new
product out.
Walter could care less if
Don does a solo track, especially
if he has new product out and there
isn't a solo show in the works to
support it.
Date: Fri, December 04, 2009, 17:57:24 ET
Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, NYC
Lurker Ray- This rule (no solo stuff) was instituted after the 2006 tour. I saw more shows in 1993 alone, than you did for the past 15 years combined!
Date: Fri, December 04, 2009, 16:24:25 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Mr Know-It-All must not have
been to any Steely Dan shows
in the early 90's. Various
tracks from both of their
solo CD's were mixed in nightly.
The 93 Tour had at least two to
three Fagen solo cuts from Kama
every night and of course an
instrumental "True Companion"
to start the shows.
1995 Roseland - "On The Dunes"!
What a night.
Date: Fri, December 04, 2009, 15:23:55 ET
Posted by: Grim Reaper,
RIP, Eric Woolfson, of another band that only existed in the studio.
Date: Fri, December 04, 2009, 15:17:59 ET
Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, ny
That was two Summers ago and it was one song out of three solo records. Nothing from Morph The Cat which cam out the year before. That the deal both of them have with each other. No solo cuts from either one of them at a SD show. Read it and weep!
Date: Fri, December 04, 2009, 12:55:28 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, needing a fix
Videos from final gig, eh.
www.youtubecom/watch?v=SeQGfB5PMus
Date: Fri, December 04, 2009, 12:42:42 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
Hey, Mr. Know-it-All:
You'd be more believable re: Walter's hypothetical prohibition of Donald's solo work if the band hadn't performed "New Frontier" as a standard cut on...well, almost every one of last summer's dates.
Nice try at stirring the pot, tho.!
xo CJB
Date: Fri, December 04, 2009, 12:29:22 ET
Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, NYC
Dr Mu - If you had paid attention over the last few years you would know that DF is prohibited(by WB) to preform his solo work at a SD concert. Oh and by the way .....Fagen LOVED his solo tour! Lexi didn't tell you that...but I will!
Date: Thurs, December 03, 2009, 22:50:58 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
"and" and Jr are correct. Chill bras.
Really it's the best of both worlds if Fagen releases and album and SD tours with new Fagen tunes and deep solo cuts...mixed with with the usual Peg, DTMA, etc.
What's not to like?
Date: Thurs, December 03, 2009, 19:12:44 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy
As 2009 quickly winds down I'd like to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, Happy Hannakah, Reflective Kwanzaa, Funky Festivus, and Big Ups to whatever else you and yours might be celebrating! A special greeting to the cool peeps at the shows in Clearwater, Orlando, Chicago (nite #4), and Merrillville. Thank you Hoops for your time, energy, and efforts. Thank you Rent Party ensemble for being the best band in the world. Finally, thank you Mr. Becker and Mr. Fagen. You gentlemen have no idea how much we appreciate the great times you have provided all these years.
Here's to a happy and healthy start to the exciting new decade!
Date: Thurs, December 03, 2009, 18:09:37 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, San Francisco
Now that the tour is over, and barring a solo tour, all we have is the tribute bands.
I heard the Steely Damned is now defunct.
Can anyone corroborate this?
Date: Thurs, December 03, 2009, 14:29:30 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Dr Mu - Get a grip buddy!
Date: Thurs, December 03, 2009, 14:23:15 ET
Posted by: Mu Couldn't Be, More Wrong
Doc Mu - How can you say: "Fagen is on record stating he did not enjoy the solo tour. Houses were not quite full, and audiences often were sitting on their hands a bit".... and then use this source from "Lexi Says" to back up that claim?
"despite the apparent success of the March tour, the mostly sold-out houses, the screaming crowds, the fantastic performances of the musicians..."
Can you not tell that Lexi said exactly the OPPOSITE of what you claim?
You then write: "But SD on tour makes GOBS of $$"
While in the same post, Lexi goes on to say: "Small venues plus nine heavy cats on stage equals chump change for a bandleader these days"
So, if that's the case, what does it now mean when he is STILL playing these small venues, with now ELEVEN heavy cats on stage, and now he has to SPLIT the chump change with his partner (WB)???
Date: Thurs, December 03, 2009, 12:01:34 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
speaking of DF's 06 tour, there are some gems out there. Heard one yesterday for the first time -- Krantz just SMOKES on every tune. Carlock adds a layer of funk to the Kama tunes that really need it.
Date: Thurs, December 03, 2009, 00:44:42 ET
Posted by: and....,
nearly direct DF quote from somewhere during the 2006 Donald Fagen Band solo tour:
"I tried to do a show with deep cuts and new music, but the audience kept yelling out requests for wormy 1970's radio hits"
which most likely contributed toward the mostly Greatest Hits Steely Dan tour setlists that ensued for most of the last three years.
as they say, be careful what you ask for. you just might get it!
Date: Wed, December 02, 2009, 23:20:28 ET
Posted by: Mu Jr.,
The source is Lexi Says, No Business section, DF website....
Date: Wed, December 02, 2009, 21:57:59 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, eh
Brain Strainer I'm originally from the Ottawa Valley hood, eh.
Date: Wed, December 02, 2009, 18:57:12 ET
Posted by: Dave, NJ
The link to the 10cc video had me watching some others. In the Godley & Creme video Cry, two of the faces bare a strong resemblance to current members of SD's touring band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxtPRF6NG7I
Name them and the time in the video at which they appear.
Date: Wed, December 02, 2009, 12:42:13 ET
Posted by: To, JJ
http://www.donaldfagen.com/lexisays.php?pnum=9&tnum=55
Read the finaly entry on that page.
Date: Wed, December 02, 2009, 12:37:47 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Dr Mu - Please tell me where you read that Fagen didn't like his solo tour. Source please?
Date: Wed, December 02, 2009, 08:00:38 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Maestro Hutch, you know how I've come to admire your informed musical posts over the years. You must know my only real musical knowledge comes from a decade of singing in bands, a handful of drumming lessons and a course in Music Theory at UCLA. I grope my way through with lots of help from people like you.
Yesterday remains magical and its beauty for me is eternal. That majestic bridge of, "Why she had to go, I don't know, she wouldn't say," is arguebly the greatest musical quote in 20th Century pop. Still moving, still perfect.
Date: Wed, December 02, 2009, 07:46:21 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Raj - Yesterday is interesting also by the fact that it's in the key of F. On the Beatles Anthology cd you can hear Paul explaining the chord progression to George in the studio. Paul had tuned his guitar down a whole step so he could play it with open chords. So Paul played G, F#m, B, Em, C, D7, G, Em, A, C, G.
And George played F, Em, A, Dm, Bb, C, F, Dm, G, Bb, F.
But the coolest thing is that Em you hear on the bridge. It's so ingenious... you just start the bridge on the second chord of the verse and follow that progression on through until it resolves back to the F major.
Simple and beautiful.
Date: Wed, December 02, 2009, 07:01:30 ET
Posted by: Brain Strainer,
The latest Strainer was:
"When Kanye’s “Champion” came into Dandom’s consciousness about a year or two ago it was so shocking for many that the a line had been crossed, a barrier broken and that this was the first time that a Dan tune was sampled for use in a Hip-Hop R&B piece. Well, I will have you know it was certainly not the first time that a Dan tune or portion thereof had been “sampled” for such a purpose. Though it may not have been the first such Steely sampling, a 1992 hip-hop smash hit by a group known as Joe Public did in fact sample a popular Dan riff.
Name the Joe Public tune and the Dan tune from which the sample was taken. One point will be given for each correct response, even in the event it is not the same individual.
Difficulty level is prolly about a “7”, depending if you iz a rarefied jazzbo or a “4” if you iz from da’ hood……"
THE late 1980’s ushered in what was known as the “new jack swing” subgenre of Hip Hop R&B. Its Golden Age lasted from about 1985 to 1995 when it was fairly mainstream, and influenced a major motion picture New Jack City in 1991. Some of the new jack pioneers of that era were Bobby Brown, Bell Biv Devoe, Keith Sweat, Tony! Toni! Tone'!, and yes, EVEN Paula Abdul. The band Joe Public also was right in there in 1992 with “Live N’ Learn” which did sample the repeating, catchy, alto sax hook that appends each line of the verse of Steely Dan’s “Peg”. Don Fagen’s “Brite Nitegown” is an fairly close example of the New Jack style,. If you are into that, you might want to “delve back” and get into some “new jack”.
It was pointed out that De La Soul and quite a few other groups had done previous samplings of Dan material, but key to this Strainer was that Kanye West was NOT the first, which many Danfans might have previously thought.
First with the correct answers, and the first correct ever for TWO points to get on the board, (inside of 25 minutes!) was Charm City’s Fife. With that kind of speed and hip hop knowledge Fife jus gots to be from North Ave, Greenmount Ave, or somewhere from da' hood……eh????
Date: Wed, December 02, 2009, 06:54:48 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Indeed, Old Friend, Paul's, "Yesterday," remains one of the most fascinating tunes. That snippet was quite engaging, thanks. The melody for Yesterday, as Paul has told us, came to him in his sleep. The thing starts out in some E Minor thing, then progresses through a few Majors I think, then with some B Flat quote that stopped you dead, was it the, "why," on, "why did she have to go..." maybe? It always reminded my Dad of church music, especially the old, "Oremus," which, if you're an old Catholic, you will remember as the opening of the Offertory in our old Latin mass which I frankly miss very much. Yes, E Minor as I hear it now in my memory.
The lyric is preternaturally simple and piercing and haunting, so strange coming from a young man of only 23 years. I suppose this remains his masterpiece, I've lost count of how many artists have covered it. It must be in the thousands by now.
Played on an early Epiphone guitar as I recall, still great.
Date: Wed, December 02, 2009, 01:16:25 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Don't: You misunderstand. Fagen is on record stating he did not enjoy the Solo Tour. Houses were not quite full, and audiences often were sitting on their hands a bit. I think it was spectacular. But SD on tour makes GOBS of $$, and that's where it will stay.
Date: Tues, December 01, 2009, 18:59:29 ET
Posted by: An Old Friend, ...
Engrossed in a book titled "This Is Your Brain On Music" by Daniel J. Levitin and just read this passage (bear with me--there's a payoff at the end):
"The principle schemas (general notions) we develop as listeners include a vocabulary of genres and styles, as well as of eras, rhythms, chord progressions, phrase structure, how long a song is and what notes typically follow what. When I said earlier that the standard popular song has phrases that are four or eight measures long, this is a part of the schema we have developed for late twentieth-century popular songs. We've heard thousands of songs, thousands of times and even without being able to explicitly describe it, we have incorporated this phrase tendency as a "rule" about music we know. When the Beatles' "Yesterday" plays with it's seven-measure phrase, it is a surprise. Even though we've heard "Yesterday" a thousand or even ten thousand times, it still interests us because it violates schematic expectations that are even more firmly entrenched than our memory for this particular song. Songs that we keep coming back to for years play around with expectations just enough that they are always at least a little bit surprising. Steely Dan, the Beatles, Rachmaninoff and Miles Davis are just a few of the artists that some people say they never tire of and this is a big part of the reason."
Very interesting...
Date: Tues, December 01, 2009, 15:11:51 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
No, Mr. Me, it wasn't Jaydee's video that made my day, it was his sonnet. A small poem of 14 lines, ten iambic pentameters for each line, an unemphasized (sp?) syllable followed by five emphasized syllables. At least that's how I remember its structure. And JD executed it beautifully. Bravo, Jaydee. Here's my favorite, maybe some of you might recall it as well, penned by our greatest hand:
When my love swears that she is made of truth
I do believe her though I know she lies,
That she might think me some untutored youth
Unlearned in the world's false subtleties.
Thus vainly thinking that she thinks me young,
Although she knows my days are past the best,
Simply I credit her false-speaking tongue;
On both sides thus is simple truth suppressed.
But wherefore says she not she is unjust,
And wherefore say not I that I am old?
O, love's best habit is in seeming trust,
And age in love loves not to have years told.
Therefore I lie with her, and she with me,
And in our faults by lies we flattered be.
Date: Tues, December 01, 2009, 10:31:42 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Found this list of Steely Dan samples sometime last year
http://www.xampled.com/xampled/2004/08/xampled-steely-dan.html
Most of these I haven't heard, but in general I dig hearing their sound in a different context. The Kanye sample wasn't really all that creative, but MF Doom's Gas Drawlz takes Black Cow and makes it really sinister (plus, he doesn't go the obvious/overused route of sampling the intro -- instead, he goes with a part of the rhodes solo).
BTW, for anyone who cried "blasphemy" over the Kanye thing, I've got news for you: Not only did Steely Dan approve the use of Kid C, but they made a boatload from it. I doubt they appreciate hip hop -- they've made statements that indicate that they don't -- but they certainly see the earning potential.
Date: Tues, December 01, 2009, 09:38:47 ET
Posted by: Very Very, Quiet
Jump in the Caddie
Watch hydrants in sight
Flee quickly Big Tiger
In the middle of the night
'Cause there's no escape
From the Swede of Anglo race
You better run run run
Golf whacker's on the case
Date: Tues, December 01, 2009, 09:33:07 ET
Posted by: Me,
Boy Raj- It doesn't take a lot to "make your day". I thought that vid was pretty stupid.
Date: Tues, December 01, 2009, 09:07:46 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Brilliant, Jaydee. Thank goodness there still exists someone who can recall and can fashion this stuff. The 14 line little song, He wrote maybe a couple hundred of them, only a few have come down to us. Peppered with some of my favorite nuggets from the Immortal One. Oh I especially liked, "yclept," I didn't think anyone could reach back to that construction. Although I do seem to remember Hamlet saying something like, "they [c]epe us drunkards and with swinish phrase soil our addition."
Anyway, you made my day, lad. Cheers and good on ya.
Date: Tues, December 01, 2009, 01:03:13 ET
Posted by: Don't Like, Jamaica
Mu,
It's one thing to speculate that Don & Walt may never write together again. But to suggest that they lost so much money on tour that Fagen's moving into a studio apartment...
Date: Tues, December 01, 2009, 00:26:56 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Dr. Fagen will be back in the studio after the tour.
Walter continues his holiday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5j47--4HYk
Date: Tues, December 01, 2009, 00:21:02 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,
BS: Live n Learn sampling Peg.
The mighty De La Soul deconstructed Peg a couple of years earlier and better on Eye Know from 3 Feet & Rising:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1CaN4thI5w
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 22:45:06 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Jaydee,
Thanks for posting that Beatles mockumentary. Very funny.
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 21:49:04 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, eh
Live and Learn....Peg
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 21:26:50 ET
Posted by: Brain Strainer, da' hood
Tonight’s Strainer is an “audio” Strainer and ventures outside of the realm of the Dan, and involves what is known in the genre of Hip-Hop R&B as “sampling”. AND, unlike most Strainers or Hemorrhagers this one you can Google.
Sampling can range from a snippet or catchy hook or an outright rip for which the original music is sung or rapped over with the sampler’s own poetry or gibberish. This is a controversial practice which can range from exploitation and/or desecration of the original to a well- done interpretation of the original backing track, depending on your perspective. The more time that has elapsed between the original and the sampler’s interpretation the more they can get away with it. I am constantly able to amaze the adolescents who are dumbfounded when they ask me “how do YOU possibly know this song?”. Well, I tell them, that was Rick James’ “Superfreak” from 30 years ago, or whatever. A recent example that will hit home for Dandom was the use of sampling of Kid C. by Kanye West for his rendition of “Champion”. Many Danfans howled with disdain at how Kanye could have defiled such a beloved, or perhaps one of the best Steely joints ever put out. To your average teen or young Kanye fan, it was just another masterpiece of HIS own creation.
When Kanye’s “Champion” came into Dandom’s consciousness about a year or two ago it was so shocking for many that the a line had been crossed, a barrier broken and that this was the first time that a Dan tune was sampled for use in a Hip-Hop R&B piece. Well, I will have you know it was certainly not the first time that a Dan tune or portion thereof had been “sampled” for such a purpose. Though it may not have been the first such Steely sampling, a 1992 hip-hop smash hit by a group known as Joe Public did in fact sample a popular Dan riff.
Name the Joe Public tune and the Dan tune from which the sample was taken. One point will be given for each correct response, even in the event it is not the same individual.
Difficulty level is prolly about a “7”, depending if you is a rarefied jazzbo or a “4” if you is from da’ hood……
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 17:09:49 ET
Posted by: Travelling Minstrel , The Southland
Jaydee!Your sonnet is Brilliant! Thanks- made my morning.
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 13:40:45 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Passing reference to Aja (at about 2.05) in this amusing piss-take of History Channel style documentaries :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z2vU8M6CYI
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 12:23:48 ET
Posted by: Chip, Cuyahoga Falls
Yes I can relate somewhat. Now that the tour is over I'm feeling a little down. I was able to catch 3 shows this tour, twice in Akron!
I would follow the tour through the website and after a tour stop the first thing I would do in the morning I would check out the blue book to see the setlists and the comments from the fandom. Now its over . I often find myself checking out youtube for live performances. I wonder if the boys will be back next year. I have been fortunate enough to catch at least one show per year since the came back touring in '93. Anyway it was a great year from the best musicians in the world.
Chip
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 11:31:21 ET
Posted by: Woodman, Canada
Does anyone else suffer from what I call the "Dan hangover"? This phenom usually occurs about a day or two after a show and could last for a couple of weeks. I subject myself to listening to all SD/DF/WB related music for weeks leading up to the show. Similar to listening to X-mas music leading up to the Big Day. Gets my engine revving, and assists in building the anticipation of "the experience". Then after their shows, the desire to listen to their music subsides for awhile. Typically a couple fo weeks. Anyone else experience this?
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 10:39:38 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
'Twas ever thus, frequenters of the Blue - these recent groanings and complaints not rare,
At over noisy disrespectful fools, carousing loud where'ere our Dan appears,
Transport me back unto a previous life, when witless wights of not dis-similar bent
Did mar the noble words and lofty thought, our peerless English bard did bring to life,
At London's wooden O, yclept the Globe. Such maxims that still echo in our ears
As 'milk of human kindness' and indeed, 'this royal throne of kings, this sceptred isle'.
Which like our duo's burnished turns of phrase, and solos of such lusty polished gold
As minstrels of past age could ne'er outdo, deserve much more than loutish wittering,
And oafish shouts for Freebird, by my troth . Such sadly oft-encountered rude excess
Must curb itself and limitations fix, to sporting contests where such shouts are apt,
And music-making of the baser kind, purveyed by brazen-chested gods of rock,
As AC/DC, Anthrax and that ilk. Else, dare I pose to peaceful Dan-fans all,
Our choicest course of action for the nonce, is to take arms against such wanton ways,
And by opposing end such insolence.
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 09:01:37 ET
Posted by: H,
There are a lot of people who are not veterans of any Steely Dan concerts.
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 08:59:57 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Anybody catch Matt Taibbi (Rolling Stone) on the Imus show this morning? They were playing his 5 favorite songs....one of which is, My Old School !! No surprise that Taibbi went to Bard College.....
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 08:55:58 ET
Posted by: Mr. Ess Dee, U.S
I thought Alive in America was great because I didn't get a chance to see them in '03 or '04. Now, as a veteran of more than 20 concerts, I have little use for it. Ditto for any potential live DVD.
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 08:48:15 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
I agree.
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 08:13:49 ET
Posted by: Kate,
Mixer - Read it, or put it anyway you want. It's BS!
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 07:17:28 ET
Posted by: mixer, foh
I think what Walter has said about the lack of appeal of live DVDs is not that they diminish the experience of the live audience or its 'memories', but that it takes one thing and tries to make it into another. Live performance is a real-time 'in the moment' expression: it is done, and then gone, evaporating into the air -- and this among other things is what makes live playing so satisfying and special. Immediate musical experience (hearing AND playing) vs musical product. That's how I read it anyway - I will try to find the quote
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 00:22:49 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Fife - Walter's quote on why no DVD will be recorded "it diminishes the "Live" experience for concert goers"
This is something WB would say when he's trying to avoid the question. I like to call it "Steely Dan double talk"
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009, 00:21:51 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Back in Toronto
Only slightly late, here are a handful of personal observations from Toronto II and the tour's wind-up in Montreal............
Thursday's Massey Hall performance of The Royal Scam et al was once again well worth the effort it took to be there, as far as concerns the stuff emanating from the stage. This ensemble is a wonder to behold. And once again the audience around me (fifth row balcony, right of center) found it necessary to spend the majority of the evening discussing work-related matters, favourite movies, the terrible traffic they encountered on the drive to the show, and "Hahaha, ya know what Mike's like, bro!". Just my luck to end up behind another group of dullards who feel it's appropriate to use a once-in-a-lifetime live performance as a backdrop for their low-grade socializing. I found myself thinking that it would have been great if Miles Davis had been sitting with me.......he would have straightened them out, I suspect. He wasn't with me, though. Too bad.
Fast-forward to Saturday night in Montreal. The "Salle Wilfrid-Pelletier" is another great room, and as such it is normally reserved for high-calibre performances only.........the symphony, the opera, a few jazz acts.......and now our pals Steely Dan. There were no musical surprises (and none were expected, really) but I was fortunate enough to be seated in the fourth row on the floor, about forty feet or so from the great Jon Herrington. The impact of the music from this band at this proximity is incomparable to any other live act I can think of. So powerful was the intensity of the music in my section, that folks in at least the first five or ten rows were simply unable to fully concentrate on their mobile phones, excruciatingly banal conversations, and non-stop bladder-voiding, and as such were forced to actually pay attention to the matter at hand...........the music. Even more gratifying for me personally was the presence beside me of a young early twenty-something couple who literally hung on every note of every song played. They mouthed lyrics, cheered, and generally spent the evening grinning from ear to ear. After enduring some of the rude, selfish conduct at so many recent shows, I was heartened to see some real fans, and very young ones at that, caught up in the event itself. Great stuff. There were even a few laughs to be had as DF engaged in a stunning display of bilingualism when he introduced WB as "Mister Wal-taire Beck-aire!" to the mainly French-speaking crowd, and as WB oversaw the presentation of three "stuffed toy" gifts to the ladies of The Choir. The cuddly plush toys were, in his words, "not unlike a stuffed lion once owned by the famous American comedian Soupy Sales". Go figure.
All in all it was another memorable tour. Once we all realize that we're (sadly) not going to get the entire EMG or 2VN albums performed along with some solo tracks and just a few radio favourites, I think we should be grateful that we're still getting this consistently-excellent calibre of live show from our favourite band. Every time you see them could be your last, folks. I try to remember that fact if I'm ever tempted to complain that I just saw them play "Don't Take Me Alive" or "My Old School" yet again............
Regards,
M/O/D/P
ps - As an aside to my earlier comments here regarding the first Toronto show............far from being an attempt at "sacrilige" or any other willful abusing of anyone's firmly-and-deeply-held concert-hall-beliefs, my favourable comparison of Toronto's Massey Hall to the newly-restored Beacon Theater was merely a general observation on venue styles. As opposed to some of the SD "casino" shows I attended in '07 and '08 ("Niagara Falls NY" and "Casino Rama", for example) with their poor accoustics and even poorer seating arrangements, Massey Hall and the Beacon are both actual "concert halls" where the primary purpose of the room is to present live music........not merely to goad the terminally gullible into haemorrhaging hard-earned cash on idiotic games of chance, nor to crassly hard-sell overpriced generic alcoholic beverages in an oversized high-school gymnasium. It was just an opinion from a fan who's spent quality time in all of the venues mentioned, we understand. Gee, I'm glad I cleared that up.
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 22:10:05 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
..or likely not sell very well and possibly diminish ticket sales for another tour that is a much more lucrative opportunity overall.
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 20:03:58 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, eh
I do believe Walter addressed the whole Live DVD concept saying that it wouldn't happen because it diminishes the "Live" experience for concert goers....
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 19:55:58 ET
Posted by: Bill Catsangolo,
Where does it say that there won't be anymore SD recordings?
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 19:48:25 ET
Posted by: tomorrows girl, lss
I'd be satisfied with a new Fagan cd or a tour cd or dvd.
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 18:56:17 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
How about a nice DVD set from the last tour? Or any tour.
Wonder if we'll ever see it happen?
The logic behind NOT doing that is beyond my comprehension.
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 17:05:52 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
No Mu, don't say that, these Two are One. Always will be.
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 16:55:13 ET
Posted by: That's sad,
It would've been real nice to have another SD album. But if it's true that Don and Walt will likely never write together again, then at least I'd hope that Donald's work ethic wouldn't permit him to sit around for the rest of his life doing nothing much worthwhile. I have to believe that he'll put something together. He's just too creative.
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 16:11:05 ET
Posted by: Sixteen, Or More
It's no substitute for another CD, but I'll take a new SD song on a movie soundtrack over nothing.
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 15:45:15 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, @ the Western World
TG: Not likely going to happen. Looking forward to a new Fagen album in late 2010 or early 2011...and hopefully, a SD tour with new Fagen songs to support it. I don't think DF will try a solo tour again based on his post-mortem comments, although there's good evidence to suggest that this tour was one of their best, if not the best.
It's highly doubtful that Walter and Donald will write together again.
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 15:23:07 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Chris, the only worse thing will be when we don't see that anymore.
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 15:18:39 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
One nice thing about the tour ending is the fact that we'll stop seeing reviews titled STEELY DAN STILL REELIN IN THE YEARS for at least a few months.
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 11:58:00 ET
Posted by: Pete Keener,
... "they got to a point where they could no longer hide behind their lyrics. They could no longer superciliously pretend that they were simply observers, note-takers, clever critics and witty word-smiths unaffected by life's common conundrums. Being brazenly brilliant and worldly wise they were always ironically one step from total disaster themselves."
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 09:22:24 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
Happy Birthday to Pete Fogel and Keith Carlock!!!!
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 08:08:11 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Back at work and barely conscious
saturday night's show was a double edged sword for me. Great show,Low ticket sales.Probably means I,ll be on the road for future Dan shows. But thats OK.Because after this three show mini tour for my wife and I,(t.o. mtl)we'll take walter up on his offer to come on down to NYC and catch some shows there.Back at work now after 2 hrs sleep.the home 'puter lost the web connection,so it may be awhile 'til I post.But as others have said here on the Blue,a great 2009 and let's look forward to 2010.Whatever it brings.To any and all persons I met at shows,it was great to meet you!Peace!
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 08:08:00 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Back at work and barely conscious
saturday night's show was a double edged sword for me. Great show,Low ticket sales.Probably means I,ll be on the road for future Dan shows. But thats OK.Because after this three show mini tour for my wife and I,(t.o. mtl)we'll take walter up on his offer to come on down to NYC and catch some shows there.Back at work now after 2 hrs sleep.the home 'puter lost the web connection,so it may be awhile 'til I post.But as others have said here on the Blue,a great 2009 and let's look forward to 2010.Whatever it brings.To any and all persons I met at shows,it was great to meet you!Peace!
Date: Sun, November 29, 2009, 07:34:17 ET
Posted by: Montreal, Review
http://www.canada.com/entertainment/Steely+still+reelin+years/2281643/story.html
Date: Sat, November 28, 2009, 23:03:51 ET
Posted by: tomorrows girl, lone star state
I'm ready for a new SD album. It's overdue.
Date: Sat, November 28, 2009, 22:28:12 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, Ohio
Right/ Sad day when a God Bless registers as [brown nosing]. God Bless you never is intended to harm or hurt/ merely a way to confirm our humanity and show I am no better than youor you me or Raj. Once again God bless all on the blue/ even you Mr Right.
Date: Sat, November 28, 2009, 20:32:16 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Oh Canada -
"I am driving to Montreal from Ottawa on Saturday and back on Sunday. I could be convinced to share my car with, oh I don't know, one or two persons who meet some minimum level of personal hygeine, preferably female, and hopefully willing to try new things. I'm not saying you'll get to spend your birthday in Spain, but I'm not saying you won't either. It would also be useful if the word "creepy" is not part of your vocabularly."
- Mr. Garland "Creepy”? You make the call.
One of my favorite posts from
the tour - "vocabularly"! Have
a great last show! Hopefully
they will "Play Two" just like
they did to kick-off this whole
great ride in Boston earlier this
summer.
35 degrees at show time tonight, but
Denver still holds the record for
the "coldest" post 1974 Steely Dan
show - 9 degrees and it was only
Oct 29th.
Any truth to the rumor that they
are now playing a private birthday
party in Canada tomorrow night?
Date: Sat, November 28, 2009, 19:36:57 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
What's next? - Recording is what I hope will be next. New material. Something to REALLY get excited about.
If they go out and tour next year what could they possibly do that would be different or new? They're NOT going to play a lot of deep cuts. We already know that.
There may be another DF solo tour.
There will never be a WB solo tour.
Even if they put out another SD album and toured after it's released would they play any damn songs off the new album? If we're lucky maybe one. Maybe two. That's kind of sad isn't it?
I know I sound like the Supreme Buzz Killer but I don't mean to sound unappreciative. I just want to see these two genius songwriters continue to move forward.
Date: Sat, November 28, 2009, 16:27:11 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
You have no idea what was done to me. No, I'm not a nice guy but I'm a good guy. And if I ever meet up with you, you will stroke my hand and kiss me sweetly on the cheek, I'm that kind of guy.
Date: Sat, November 28, 2009, 16:06:39 ET
Posted by: John Walsh, AMW
Rajah - I know a lot more than you think. Please don't play the innocent "oh why me" card. Yes, you're basically an nice guy, that has done a lot of bad things.
Date: Sat, November 28, 2009, 15:10:54 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
What a great summer and fall it has been with all the fantastic shows by the boys and girls, and, all the reviews, comments and tweets here on The Blue !! Will surely miss all the excitement of the last several months......but am already setting aside mucho piasters for next summer's / fall's tour dates. Please continue all the good times, Donald and Walter !!! We can't wait for the next tour to start......
Date: Sat, November 28, 2009, 14:24:12 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
The tour ends tonight. Let's hear some strong love from you. The best is yet to be. Onward, Steely Dan...
Date: Sat, November 28, 2009, 12:17:43 ET
Posted by: F them rajah, so cal
Date: Sat, November 28, 2009, 10:41:41 ET
Posted by: The end?,
Today brings the 2009 tour to an end.
What's next for the boys?
Date: Sat, November 28, 2009, 10:19:58 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I have been your faithful observer for lo... these many years. And I am truly and sincerely humbled by your attention and your general regard. All of you. Also, of course, I am abundantly armed against the slings and arrows hurled against me. But they hurt just the same. Especially when they come from an anonymous and cowardly source. Shame on you dear sir or madam, shame. Shame on you. You don't know me, you have no idea of what I have lived through or what I carry in my heart. I would like nothing more than to splay out a test of expletives right now against this hurtful person but I respect you all too much to do that.
So I won't.
Date: Sat, November 28, 2009, 09:13:31 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
I think the last two concerts I've seen (Phoenix 2009 and Albuquerque 2008) were on par musically to the shows of 2000. 2003 was good but there seemed to be something missing up until the last two years. Not as crisp. Maybe its the current line up I dont know. Also, Don's voice has been as good as ever and he really seems to be more into the performance. In Phoenix he was as animated as I've ever seen, even more so than the rest of the band. I hope 2010 brings more of the same.
Date: Sat, November 28, 2009, 07:07:30 ET
Posted by: right, right
dont brown nose klaus raj can take care of himself
Date: Sat, November 28, 2009, 06:32:56 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, Ohio
Lighten up Danfans/will ya? 2009 was a great year for Don and Walt and us!! These attacks on Raj and others have no place amongst friends'Ones biz is ones own. All the serious Steely fans I know and grew up with are pretty smart and decent folks/ stop the backbiting and remember why were here. Steely Dan gives us enjoyment the same as Bach or Picasso gives others. Raise your glass to another great year where we got to see the best band in our lifetime flaunt their talent. God bless Don and Walt and Raj and heres hoping 2010 brings them out again so we can spend our money and time on something we all love THE MUSIC. Perhaps the [boys] actually enjoy and need us/ha ha. Give em hell tonight Canada/ let them know we need them around for years to come.
Date: Fri, November 27, 2009, 21:03:55 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
A very sad fellow, are you not? Seek help.
Date: Fri, November 27, 2009, 19:34:25 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Edit #1
Forgot the friggen link...
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2009/11/black-friday-walmart-in-upland-temporarily-closes-after-fighting-inside.html
Date: Fri, November 27, 2009, 19:31:40 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, When Black Friday Comes!
"I'll stand down by the door."
Essential music for today. Espeically for watching all the white trash rush into Walmart to save 10 bucks on a Wii came.
Date: Fri, November 27, 2009, 16:55:54 ET
Posted by: John Walsh, AMW
Yes...come back to a piu presto because Rajah isn't allowed back in the USA!
Date: Fri, November 27, 2009, 14:26:36 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Thank you Steely Dan for the summer and autumn tour. We will not soon forget. Come back to us a piu presto. As soon as you can.
Date: Thurs, November 26, 2009, 21:33:03 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
From the Toronto Sun Review:
"...one women who danced backwards up the aisle..."
Maybe she was a Captain Beyond fan.
Love the new Blue. Never thought I'd say that about a gated community.
Happy Thanksgiving, Danfans.
Date: Thurs, November 26, 2009, 18:22:12 ET
Posted by: Illegal Fun, Under the sundown
Looking at the picture in the link below that shows Gordon Lightfoot (who is a full decade Fagen's senior) along with Steely Dan on the marquee makes me hope there will be gas in the car for some time to come.
Date: Thurs, November 26, 2009, 17:50:46 ET
Posted by: More Canadian, Stuff
Review:
http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/entertainment/music/article/64369--steely-dan-still-worth-the-money
Interview:
http://www.hour.ca/music/music.aspx?iIDArticle=18772
Date: Thurs, November 26, 2009, 15:56:52 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks for all of the great
Toronto reports. Sorry to
hear about all of the "chatter".
I hadthe same situation at IR
Night in Chicago. Worse I have
ever witnessed. Why even go to
the show? What a waste of major
money.
BTW - To make similarities
between the historic Massey Hall
and the Beacon Theatre is
sacrilege!
Date: Thurs, November 26, 2009, 15:10:56 ET
Posted by: Woodman, worse case Ontario
Happy Bird Day Cousins,
Location. Location. Location.
Often used statement. Often abused statement. Yet used in a proper context, like the scene of Steely Dan's concert last night, it can only be summed up in the aforementioned three word. Massey Hall has clearly established itself as a world-class concert hall, containing all of the charms one would expect from a Hall over 100 years old. from the Sonics to the ambience this has to be the Dan's favourite place to play in Canada. And it showed. Google Massey Hall and view the pics of the pplace. Truly remarkable.
I have accepted the fact that at the end of this decade, the decade of the "Touring Dan" my chances of fulfilling a dream and seeing Mr. Carlton play with the band have evaporated. Outdated passport. Being the "northern cousin" gets you some perks, crossing the border after 9/11 without a passport isn't one of them. Thanks a lot Bin Laden! Last night made up for this disappointment.
No need to breakdown the setlist, there were no surprises there. Aja, their uber gift to the music world was performed with the perfection demanded by it's creators. It was a personal thrill to hear Cow and Deacon live again. Donald's piano intro, then the funky backbeat of Home was definitely an achievement worthy of any and all accolades. This 40 something bladder of mine decided that during Josie, it was now - not later - just now. As a result I heard most of the song in the echo chambers of the Men's Room, while my body said thanks. Keith was Keith, I can find no other words to describe his playing. When watching other bands play live, all drummers are compared to Keith. A more effective compliment is harder to articulate.
By the time Bodhistava started to crank up the energy level, it was quite apparent that Donald was having a very good time. He was the most gregarious I have seen him. Laughing or smiling throughout, he laid claim to "playing some of the songs we have made over the last 50 years or so". Often he did the "Richard Nixon" salute to the crowd, standing center stage, while facing Keith (Donald's hands up in the air, giving the peace sign). His work on Godwhackers was hilarious, as he attempted to match note-for-note with the horn section, while choreographing some "Fagen Shuffle" in front of them. Walter was subdued, and while watching him play (I recently took up guitar lessons - "Happy Birthday" has never been so tortured) I often wondered whether he was playing at all. His fingers danced across the frets, in no certain pattern, even though he was not soloing. It made me wonder whether his guitar was turned down for a reason. On a number of occasions, Walter's paying did not go in the correct timing, often strumming even when there was no need to strum. Because I couldn't hear what he was playing, this led me to believe his volume was mixed way down. And sadly the Becker schtick was taken from us on 19. Walter sang Daddy, and then introduced the band (called the ladies the "Angels of the band"), saving his humour for Donald's intro. He called Donald a Renaissance Man amongst other things as a world-class writer, songwriter extraordinaire etc - or just short of calling him Da Vinci. Jon did most of the guitar work throughout the night. Although I have documented my adoring love of this man's playing, I have to admit that there were times when Jon's work slightly missed the mark. And even though this may sound contrary, I did get the distinct impression that Jon was adding his own spin on things. Deviating only slightly from the original recordings, yet to this ear, a discernable difference interfering with expectations. He did not disappoint and has obvious gained something from playing with Larry. Forgive the brashness but - the ladies nailed the Dirty Work. Their rendition last night was the best I have heard. And Donald even acknowledged Mr. Palmer! Kid C. grooved almost into a jam. Itchy had the place upon their feet clapping along and has deservedly earned it's spot on the list of all-time favourite Dan tunes played live (yes, the irony is not lost, it is a tune the band didn't write, never recorded, and Donald has never sung it yet I look forward to Steely Dan performing it now going on close to three years).
Twenty years ago, attending a concert was something extremely different then the experience today. And I will focus only on the experience from the seats, NOT from the stage. "Back in the day" once the show started, the only social interaction would involve passing your favourite herb down the aisle, or passiing the wineskin around. Nowadays the behaviour of the audience has replaced that social activity with behaving like they are in their own living room. It is not only distracting, but it is impeding on the enjoyment value for those around "the scrum". Last night was no different.The lads behind me were compelled to talk about everything else rather then concentrate on the show. I also witnessed one person answering their cell phone and attempt a conversation during the show. And there was lad who texted throughout. I understand it is not the "World according to the Woodman", and I hate preaching, but am I the only one who is annoyed with this? The 40 something bladder is bad enough. Can I not just watch and listen to the show?
Date: Thurs, November 26, 2009, 13:42:39 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
BTW: Thanks for sending the article links. I like the ones where Donald, Walter and their associated are interviewed or at least quoted; I really think outright reviewsin the media are obsolete. I know in Chicago we have two supposedly national caliber rock critics with their own public radio show and writhings in Rolling Stone, etc, but when it comes to reviewing Steely Dan, more often than not, they make fools of themselves. Thanks to the Danizens who email or post their own reviews. They are so much more worthwhile.
Date: Thurs, November 26, 2009, 13:38:50 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Happy U.S. Thanksgiving, everyone.
Date: Thurs, November 26, 2009, 10:10:58 ET
Posted by: Toronto Sun, Review
http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment/columnists/jane_stevenson/2009/11/26/11929376-sun.html
Date: Thurs, November 26, 2009, 08:55:47 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Still reelin'
Wow... awesome show last night by the boys. Two hours of perfection.
While I'm a lightweight on the Blue, seeing them only 4 times in the last 4 years, I thought Donald Fagen was the best I've ever seen. Loose with a big smile on his face the whole time. But the whole band was perfect.
Aja straight through live was very cool. Deacon Blues (never seen it live before) and Home at Last were definitly the highlights from that set for me.
First time at Massey Hall for me. Great venue, perfect for a Dan show. Also my first time in Toronto in a few years. Love that city, wish I had gotten there earlier to spend more time there.
While the first report of the show said the crowd around him kinda sucked, I thought the audience was without a doubt the best I'd ever seen at a Dan concert. Very loud and appreciative, even during Deep Blue Trio. Speaking of which... can you get more jazzy than three black guys from Chicago?
I had convinced the other 2 people in my group that My Rival was the one encore, both of whom really wanted to see Reein'. So it was pretty funny seeing them freak out when that guitat started.
One final note: Finally met me a bluebook poster... Don Patrol, which was really awesome. By the way Don, sorry it took me a couple of seconds to register what was going on. Wasn't expecting anyone to address me as Young Wu in real life. (Also, loved the Aja shirt!) Too bad there wasn't any meet-up planned before the show, at least to my knowledge.
Happy Thanksgiving to all the American posters... and have a good time tonight Don Patrol and others who will be rocking out to the Scam while the rest of us in the States fall asleep from turkey overload.
Date: Thurs, November 26, 2009, 04:25:32 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Dear Poster, you have a great command of the English, you must post more often. Please, ti prego.
Date: Thurs, November 26, 2009, 02:30:40 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Toronto
Toronto part one: Another jaw-dropping show. The band was in fine form......everyone on stage seemed to be really connected to the performance, and the resulting spectacle was as good as any live musical act I've seen in a long time. DF in particular appeared to be enjoying himself, and he was more animated and enthusiastic than when I saw the band at a shabby "casino" auditorium north of Toronto in '08. Tonight's venue, Massey Hall, is rather similar to NYC's Beacon Theater, and as such is also a great place to see and hear live music. "Godwhacker" was a standout ("again") for me, anyways.
The set list was the same as posted here for the DC "Aja" show, except that "Show Biz Kids" was replaced by "Green Earrings" tonight. WB didn't do his usual spoken bit during "Hey Nineteen".
I wish I could say something nice about the audience.....the people around me, anyways. The "Classic Rock" lunkheads behind us talked loudly and incessantly about their lives/jobs/bodily functions ad nauseum throughout the 30-minute set by The Deep Blue Organ Trio and well into "Aja" until they were asked by yours truly to show some respect for the musicians on the stage. The folks in front of us spent most of the night chatting loudly, checking their phones, and getting up to use the facilities. I hope it was just my section (seventh row balcony, right of center), but too many around me appeared unable to tell the difference bewteen "going to a bar" and "attending a live musical event".
I'm going to Thursday's "Royal Scam" show and then it's on to Montreal for the still-as-yet-uncancelled Saturday performance. I know the band will deliver. I just hope the audiences don't soil the proceedings.......again.........
Date: Wed, November 25, 2009, 11:46:37 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, 8 hours till Toronto!
Anyone know if there is an opening band for the Toronto show tonight? And if there is, any guess as to when the Dan goes on stage? Same as the states... around 9 or so?
Date: Wed, November 25, 2009, 10:06:27 ET
Posted by: WuDuF, smooovland
Nice post and review, Jive Miguel.
You said "Herrington was razor sharp, as expected, and played off the other instruments intuitively. Very satisfying. He never disappoints, ever."
I could not agree more or have said it better.
Date: Wed, November 25, 2009, 09:06:45 ET
Posted by: Cleveland, Rocks
No newspaper reviews for either Philly or DC. Yet a Cleveland reporter trekked on down to Akron and gave a review covering both nights there. Go Browns.
Date: Tues, November 24, 2009, 22:54:24 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, DC
Some observations on the 11/22 Sunday Aja + show in DC:
First of all, the band is absolutely at the top of their game. They were firing on all cylinders, very tight, and the lighting choreography was sensational.
The horn solos were exceptionally tasteful and well-honed after months on the road.
Don was full of energetic animation and obviously having a good time. Don's fragile pipes were strong, relaxed and flexible. You could feel his confidence, as he eased into high notes and phrases that I've heard him back off from in some past performances.
Herington was razor sharp, as expected, and played off the other instruments intuitively. Very satisfying. He never disappoints, ever.
Walter was smooth and melodious in his Grant Green sort of way, although his Hey 19 story was rambling and pointless, something about searching for the Cuervo aboard the SD barge, which floats from show to show. I much prefer his great "boy seduces girl" stories.
Carlock is the spine of Steely Dan, propulsive when necessary, subtle when called for. He's simply a monster.
Beard is terrific on the keys, and was given plenty of spotlight to demonstrate his chops, particularly with a superb intro to Babylon.
The acoustics were somewhere between "good" and "very good" from our vantage point, and as talented as Freddie is, the bass was a tad muddy and loud in the mix.
Finally, the "choir" as Don called them. Truly the best "teamwork" I've heard, and they had plenty of space to air it out, between Dirty Work, Itchin', and their soulful fills and harmonies all night. All of them are great, and Russell has the "purest" voice among the 3.
For some reason, Show Biz, which was ironically my least favorite SD tune over the years, now stands out as the quintessential SD concert tune.
I've lived in DC for 7 years, and honestly, I don't find DC to be a passionate music lover's town. Politics, law, type-A white collar professionals, and no true jazz station in town. In fact, the FM radio stations are mediocre at best. The couple in back of us were yammering through the Deep Blue Organ Trio pre-show. I asked them in the intermission if they'd seen Steely Dan before, and the guy said "Yeah, I saw him in 2003". They started yammering again during Black Cow, this time louder so they could hear each other above the music, and I turned around and politely asked them to stop, which they politely did. By 10:15 they were gone, probably having to get up for an early deposition. So the crowd was enthusiastic and highly appreciativtreasure.e, but not raucus like the Beacon, or even the Borgata in August. And, not nearly as many hot babes.
What an amazing band, truly a national treasure.
Date: Tues, November 24, 2009, 21:40:14 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,
booksearch: This is much closer to the truth and dark sarcasm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOrLP-TBXgI&feature=related
Date: Tues, November 24, 2009, 21:13:18 ET
Posted by: Random, everywhere
Walter's girlfriend died of an overdose. Story goes Walter and she were partying at his place and in the morning he woke up and found her dead.
Re empty seats: 2 for 1 deals and slashed prices in tne Northeast? Um what venues are you talking about? I saw 3 shows in the northeast (Boston, Foxwoods MGM and Philly). All were sold out or nearly so with no deals.
Date: Tues, November 24, 2009, 19:21:02 ET
Posted by: W. Tonia,
Book Search -
I wonder if WB's girlfriend was Karen Stanley at that time?
If so, how did she die?
Date: Tues, November 24, 2009, 19:13:14 ET
Posted by: book search, bs
Glenn Frey's account of the genesis for the "Turn up the Eagles" lyric. I never heard this before.
http://tinyurl.com/yeqthkh
Date: Tues, November 24, 2009, 19:07:42 ET
Posted by: Too Many Empty Seats,
Just viewed the photo of the D.C. show. Wow. I also read where they drew less than 1200 for the Internet Request Night in Frisco. Considering the fact that the Fagen/Becker duo have an apparent low opinion of "red states", I find it ironic that their best attendances and crowd responses on the Rent Party Tour tour were south of the Mason/Dixon line. And they didn't have to slash ticket prices and offer two for one deals like they did in the big cities in the Northeast. Go figure.
Date: Tues, November 24, 2009, 15:25:04 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, MCO
Best SD show I saw down her in FLA was two years ago at Clearwater, and that was on a Monday night.
Having said that, I agree with everyone that shows Sun-Wed are very tough for any sort of travel because of work and other demands. In fact, this year, I had a shot at a double dose of the Dan but turned down a Tuesday night show because it meant driving 2 hours in rush hour traffic to go to the show and then getting home well past midnight. Does not work on a schhol night.
Let the Lady Gaga crowd have their shows on Monday and Tuesday nights and clear the venue for us old folks on the weekends. They don't work, anyway.
Date: Tues, November 24, 2009, 14:55:29 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
looks to me like the Twitter pic was taken during the opening act, or during the set change...the house lights would not be on during the SD show...
Date: Tues, November 24, 2009, 14:05:55 ET
Posted by: KelleyO, Washington
Tour Plotter: How about leaving Sundays and Mondays off the sched completely. I think that contributed to the problem in DC. I can't vouch for the Sunday performance(though the Twitter Pic posted earlier kind of makes the point) but Monday night's show, which I did attend, was very lamentable in terms of the number of empty seats at the back. No one wants to see that.
Date: Tues, November 24, 2009, 11:20:13 ET
Posted by: tour plotter, east
To maximize attendance, maybe they should plan the tours so that Fridays and Saturdays are never off days. Friday was a sellout. Saturday was wasted.
Date: Tues, November 24, 2009, 10:08:56 ET
Posted by: KelleyO, Washington
No, those empty seats in DC persisted as such throughout the night. In my opinion they should have played the Warner Theater - they would have filled it two nights, and the acoustics would have been great -- for all ticket holders. I was in "the nosebleeds" -- great view but the reverb was awful. And it sounded like I had the Charge of Light Brigade thundering up my back all night. Donald could have been singing the Man of La Mancha most of the time for all I knew!
Date: Mon, November 23, 2009, 10:48:13 ET
Posted by: pixeleen, wondering
Sure hope that the twit.pic from DC was way before SD came on the stage. Looks like a lot of empty seats........
Date: Mon, November 23, 2009, 10:47:15 ET
Posted by: ws, kb
A plea to stop performing albums live, along with a defacing of the cover of Aja.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/12/AR2009111211648.html
Date: Mon, November 23, 2009, 08:32:05 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, DC
Ooooops, Babylon after Godwhacker, before Black Friday
Date: Mon, November 23, 2009, 00:31:20 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, DC
WOW! Tonight was my 8th SD show (+ Fagen '06), and if it is possible, this band is getting better, and better, and better. Don was absolutely on top of his game tonight.
Teenies
Aja album
Bodhi
19
Godwhacker
Babylon
Black Friday
Daddy (Walter vocals)
Show Biz
Dirty Work
Itchin' with intros
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid C
Reelin' (encore)
Last Tango
Date: Sun, November 22, 2009, 21:32:25 ET
Posted by: web search, home
Twit pic from DC
http://twitpic.com/qknql
Date: Sun, November 22, 2009, 09:29:21 ET
Posted by: Zim, finally got some sleep in CT
A couple of other comments on Friday's show: How did I foget to mention "Sign In Stranger"-amazing!
And I do agree with WuDuF. I've been listening to Jon H's "Like So' alot this summer, and his voice would be great on a few SD songs. They should let the musical director sing! Nex tour maybe.
Date: Sun, November 22, 2009, 00:30:46 ET
Posted by: Zim, home from Philly
The band come to play Friday night, and man did they PLAY! There were so on. Jon H was just amazing. He did not take it easy all night. They opened with Kid C, played hard and never stopped. Jon and Walt traded solos during H Divorce-so enjoyable! Jim Beard and Patterson both were so impressive-well, the whole group was. And then Royal Scam-it took on a life of it's own and seemed to breathe.
The crowd was great. Not sure about previous poster but we had alot of people in our area standing up and having fun. And when I looked over the crowd, I could seem the entire side across from us standing.
The red and purple balloons being bounced around during MOS were fun! Not sure why some of the people in the crowd were afraid to join in. Just HIT THE BALLOON! Some ended up on stage and looked very festive. I mean really, what'e more festive at a party (the "mo rent party" as Donald said) than balloons!? Security around us was loose.
There are so many things that go into making it a good night: the sound, the crowd, the players, security, etc etc. Well, last night was one of those rare nights where it all came together and made it a damn great show.
The Road Trip is now over.
Date: Sat, November 21, 2009, 23:50:05 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the quick; chicago but wishing I could have been at Philly
Mick Seven wrote:
"Sorry I couldn't make it to the Waterford but a friend was treated badly there so I can not go back in principle."
So on that principle you stood up Doc B, Fiona and a bunch of other nice Danfriends at the Waterford? How lame and insulting. Sounds to me like you did everyone else a favor by not showing up. You had every opportunity to participate in the Phila. Dandom list if you didn't like the venue and yet you did not say a word except to try to rain on the fun at the last minute.
Besides passing on the future Philly Danfests at the Waterford and elsewhere again, please pass up any other Danfests in Chicago. Heck, pass all the Danfests up--Danfans don't need "friends" with your kind of "principles".
To all others at Philly, please accept my apologies, especually Doc B and Fiona who hosted the fine Danfest / Fan meet up in Philly. I have been partially pre-ioccupied and missed the inappropriate posts by Mick Seven. Way out of line and "Doc B", Fiona, et al you will be rewarded. I don't get to read the Blue every day or every post so please email me if you ever see anything fishy like Mick Seven. I'd bet this guy is probably making up that anybody attended "a wing ding" from our group--he sounds like he has a sack of bile and sour grapes.
Thanks to Doc B and everyone else. "Close my eyes and I you'll be there" rings true to me thanks to your accounts and conveyance of good cheer.
Date: Sat, November 21, 2009, 19:37:59 ET
Posted by: anymanleft, rio grande
Couple quick things from Friday nights show. It was the first time I have seen the band indoors.I thought the crowd was too laid back, very few up and into the music until the end.Outside crowds are more rowdy. The sound downstairs was decent, but much better in the balcony. The setlist after RS was ok but could have been longer, would have liked a couple more songs. But overall, a good show and Walt and Don look like they have this touring thing down after all these years. Keep reelin'!
Date: Sat, November 21, 2009, 09:52:36 ET
Posted by: Raven, Ho chi min trail
hi to Maryann, Kris, Fausto, GG, Pam, Newerkes, Jim, etal at Waterford. What a blast! Enjoyed the $4 VO rocks cocktail and smoking still ok in PA huh? and decent grub, good table, good company, ugh, sold out show, high anticipation on the sidewalk, limos with drunk-as-hell fked-up folks stumblin out, what a trip! All before Fri. nite show. Let's see, time is short gotta work. Yep, SD is demonstratively beautiful. Can't say, but could it be that the Don is coming out of his shell and the charming Prince Walter is going into one, to then flash on and off. What phenomenal performances by each and every individual! Yes, parliment adjourned after a rather a healthy gambol--the citizens were bushed--for lack of a better word. More later. Godwhacker raged. Gotta fly, Ravin'
Date: Sat, November 21, 2009, 08:00:59 ET
Posted by: Philly Notes, home
Walter introduced Beard as Jim "Pugh". Mark Patterson was on trombone, not Jim Pugh. Then prior to introducing Donald, he said "since he's a Philadelphia native, I'd like to once again introduce Jim Beard." Beard responded with a sarcastically show-offy solo until Walter said "Ok, that's enough."
Better rendition of Dirty Work than on previous tours. The girls didn't sound so much like American Idol contestants with their delivery. Carolyn looked flagrantly sexy.
Gripe about the the venue. To the sides of the balcony are a number of doors clearly marked EXIT. Try using them and you'll have the staff swarming all over you. Nothing indicates that they are only for emergency use.
Date: Sat, November 21, 2009, 01:04:30 ET
Posted by: WuDuF, hotel lobby
Royal Scam night setlist. The band (and the crowd) was on fire tonight!
Teenie's
ROYAL SCAM (you know the songs!)
Hey 19
Dirty Work
Black Friday
Aja
Godwhacker
Daddy Don't Live in NYC (and YES, Walter sang the shit out of it)
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin In the Years
Last Tango in Paris
I had SOOOO much fun at tonight's show.
People seemed to enjoy the balloons--those who weren't afraid of them.
Listened to Jon H.'s album "Like So" during the day, and it seemed that his voice, and the subject matter he often chooses to sing about would be a good match for "Haitian Divorce" and/or "Everything You Did." Just my humble opinion. (Zim's also).
Date: Fri, November 20, 2009, 11:59:31 ET
Posted by: Jayme, Philly
Looking like I have an extra ticket, ya'll, due to sick date. Around 11th row center left in orchestra--very choice.
[ Phone numbers removed after the show to protect privacy. ]
Date: Fri, November 20, 2009, 11:42:05 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the tower
Tower show was great, same setlist as the Akron Aja show the other nite...sorry for the delay,I didn't write setlist down, and thought that it was being twitted by someone
Date: Fri, November 20, 2009, 10:50:27 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Zito - The Regal and Magnificient Rajah, Light of the East, Son of Isis, Beloved of Ashanti, Potent and Efficient Lover of all the Muses and Myrmidons, Star of Daibu and former doorman of the Cleveland Statler-Hilton Hotel, currently inhabits a Medieval citadel of the Apennine Mountains of Abruzzo in la bella Italia, a full 6 to 9 hours ahead of USA time. Therefore, His Magnificence arises early from his bower. With a hard-on. Unfortunately, it lasts 15 minutes...
Date: Fri, November 20, 2009, 10:08:44 ET
Posted by: Philly Bound, NJ
Damn, it was all the buzz when Larry Carlton guested this summer. Nobody said a peep about David Palmer joining them this week.
http://www.buchtelite.com/media/storage/paper1203/news/2009/11/19/ArtsLife/aja-Transforms.E.j-3836150.shtml
No setlist from Philly? You guys dropped the ball like it was a Derek Jeter bunt.
Date: Fri, November 20, 2009, 07:45:17 ET
Posted by: Zitomeyers Pharmacy,
Philly show cancelled last night?
What are you doing up so early Turban?
Date: Fri, November 20, 2009, 05:03:43 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
This is what I've put up with for years...
Somebody really loves me.
Date: Fri, November 20, 2009, 01:44:10 ET
Posted by: Yellow Post-it, On your desk Idaho
Raj darling there seem to be a fairly large chasm between your turban of tightly wound tp and what is left of your shit for brains. Try not to drag that thing through the cat little box before wiping your ass with it.
Big smooch!
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2009, 20:08:17 ET
Posted by: Chan, Boston
Well said anymanleft.
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2009, 18:37:09 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
My mistake - no Jim Pugh in '96, so the only two alums still in the line-up are the Leonhart siblings.
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2009, 18:18:22 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
"Your heros are sexiest bastards" - is the meal reviewer back with us ?
Just revisted the superb Gorge '96 recording, which seriously questions whether current line up is the 'box deluxe' of SD incarnations. Only remaining players are Michael Leonhart and Jim Pugh - on their first outings I think - yet this is a stellar show (last night of the tour), with Wayne Krantz on fire, constantly demonstrating how adventurous SD guitar solos can be, and a fine 'Monkish' piano solo from John Beasley on a rare 'East St Louis Toodle-oo'.
Also a great proto-'Jack of Speed' with WB on vocals, and 'bogus haircut' instead of 'right-wing hooey'. Nice that WB brings all the crew onstage before the encores, and even gives a shout out to Hoops and St Al. Cover shows DF and WB handprints from some boulevard or other - any idea where this is ?
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2009, 14:27:38 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Anymanleft, yes there seems to be a chasm between the jazz purists and Steely Dan. Don't know why, other than just plain old snobishness. Even at Victor Feldman's tribute at Local 47 years ago, the man hosting mentioned that VF played on every Steely Dan record and for that he got a groan from the audii, all LA jazz pro players of the era. He did give it back to them in the teeth however by saying, "oh, don't kid me, we all have some Steely Dan records somewhere in the back of the closet."
Well, let's make sure those records make it back out of the closet and onto turntables where they surely belong.
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2009, 13:18:28 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
Album sides Wednesday and what turns up on my 10 minute commute home?
Can't Buy A Thrill side one.
Do it Again
Dirty Work
Kings
Midnight Cruiser
Only a Fool Would Say That
Dee Jay says at the end...I LOVE THIS ALBUM!
Made my day.
By the way, for those who live in LA or want something a bit different, via the Internet...The Sound LA dot Com airs album sides sometimes on a Wednesday, Definitely one at 8PM at night and Triple play Thursdays. It's nice to get stuff that is NOT the hit. As a matter of fact, for their commercial about the fact that sometimes the best song is the one buried within the album...what do they play in the background? Home At Last!
Give them a listen sometime.
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2009, 13:02:59 ET
Posted by: Craig B.,
Sorry Doc I can't make it ...somebody stole my license plates
Have a great show
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2009, 12:59:27 ET
Posted by: anymanleft, rio grande
I echo your setiments,Rajah.I harken back to my senior year of high school in '73 with the first hearing of Reelin' and Do It Again when I became a Danfan.I was already listening to jazz, but because of SD I became a bigger jazz fan.And although over the years I have had friends who are true straight-ahead jazz fans and don't get the SD buzz, I feel they have been an intregal piece to the jazz landscape for the past 35+ years-- as much as a Pat Metheny or Chick Corea or Wayne Shorter. They bridged the pop/rock/jazz genres more than anyone and have etched their mark in time. I can almost place Fagen/Becker at the same level of greatness as Lennon/McCartney, and no one else is even close.We old(er) Danfans have to keep the flame alive and continue supporting their music and it's place in the world of real Americana music, jazz and the blues.I turned my kids on to SD when they were younger and now my son,21, and daughter,15, both have it in their Ipods and genuinely like it as much as the more contemporary music.My hope is that they,in turn, will turn their friends on to it and someday their own kids. May their legend never die!
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2009, 10:12:00 ET
Posted by: Glory Steinum, Around
Your heros are sexiest bastards.
During the band introductions they never give the women 8 bars to do a little individual scattin/singing but all the boys get to blow.
I say boycott the tour.
Barb
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2009, 07:24:03 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Hoopsie, it does indeed fall to us to keep Steely Dan's great body of work fresh and present in the minds of anyone who cares for well-crafted music, especially in the great American jazz tradition, one of our greatest contributions to world culture which unfortunately is almost more appreciated here in Europe than in the States.
I never met a Steely Dan fan who doesn't go out of their way to make another Steely Dan fan feel welcome, except maybe here on the Blue which I agree is a bit daunting for some people, break out my lead-lined skivvies and witness the flak they've taken on over the years.
The songs are holding up brilliantly after almost 40 years. Just like Duke, just like Miles, so many others. Thank goodness KJAZ in LA streams live on the net, if you don't already tune in, try it sometime at http://www.jazzandblues.org/programming/listen/ and open yourself up to the greats. They await you.
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2009, 06:48:39 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
I'll be the big guy holding about 8-10 license plates in my hands...should be easy to spot...I'll get there about 630P...yeah, the Waterford is not the fanciest of places, but I certainly made some great friends there at the 2007 Danfest.
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2009, 00:13:48 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
One thing to keep in mind about the Danfan meetups is that we also have a mission to recruit new fans and spread the word, you know?
For example, for tomorrow night in Philly, there are maybe 6-8 people from the greater Philly area who read the Bluebook; there are about 60 people from other places like the Dandom Digest, Yahoo, etc (and not part of the BlueBook scene) who are potentially also interested in connecting ( I'm sure there will be a lot less). A lot of people don't feel comfortable here in this context but they do in others...I'm sure you will make them feel welcome at a meet-up
If you are having a Fan meetup, have sign or fold an 8.5" X 11" sheet with the word "Danfans" on it so newcomers can figure out who the old timers are.
The meetups are about meeting up with old friends, and also about attracting new fans to our community here or anywhere that's Dan related.
Thanks!
Jim
Date: Wed, November 18, 2009, 23:00:56 ET
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6:00 pm to Show Time, Waterford Inn,
across the street from The Tower
Date: Wed, November 18, 2009, 21:27:40 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
So you agree they probably
would do "Countdown".
Glad you are finally seeing
the light. Cuz I never
suggested they would do
Pretzel Logic in it's entirety.
Date: Wed, November 18, 2009, 20:23:39 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Lurker Ray - You said:
"BTW "Through With Buzz" is on "Pretzel Logic"
Really? I guess you missed my point. No way they're playing the albums Pretzel Logic and Katy Lied. That's what I was getting at.
And BTW...Aja is on Aja. Bet on it!
Date: Wed, November 18, 2009, 18:14:41 ET
Posted by: steely dan fan #1, chicago
If Don and Walt and the crew can't get butts in the seats in Canada come back to Chicago Theater for a run! We miss you guys!
Date: Wed, November 18, 2009, 18:03:10 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
JJ-
So the "Internet Request" nights this
summer were "scams" according to you.
I'm not going to argue that point.
But you truly don't get it and are
in fact "delusional" if you think
D&W don't care about the financial
"bottom line". They HATE it if butts
are not in the seats. Don't you
remember Fagen complaining about
low ticket sales on his solo tour?
These guys just are not going to
do Full album shows around records
that contain songs that 90% of these
now-a-days "hyper-fickle" fans don't
even know. Chief Bean counter Azoff
is never going to let that happen. Yes
D&W have devil-may-care personas,
but to think that they are "to cool" to
care about money is just plain ludicrous.
Especially in 2009/2010.
BTW "Through With Buzz" is on "Pretzel
Logic". Bet on it.
Date: Wed, November 18, 2009, 17:58:32 ET
Posted by: Kkkkkzzzzzkkkkzzzzkkkkzzzz, Going 100mph on the LIRR
Re: Don Patrol The second I heard the Montreal gig was canned I thought "double-header". Maybe for good measure they'll bang out some Wu 4 U 2. Whatever, should be a great finish to the 2nd leg (of the 2nd leg). My vote is in for the biggest & best leg of all-the always pleasing 3rd Leg!!
Date: Wed, November 18, 2009, 12:20:00 ET
Posted by: TRL, Northeast Ohio
Review from Cleveland Plain Dealer:
http://www.cleveland.com/popmusic/index.ssf/2009/11/steely_dan_gives_aja_and_the_r.html
Date: Wed, November 18, 2009, 00:02:23 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @home
I got a Security Jones....
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 23:04:49 ET
Posted by: El Supremo, Fire escape
A beautful and high energy show in Akron tonight. First side of TRS marred by the venue's obnoxious fire alarm going off! (any info on cause?). Third World Man a treat!
setlist:
The Royal Scam (complete)
Hey 19
Dirty Work
Black Fri
Aja
Daddy Don't Live in NYC
Third World Man
Showbiz Kids
band intros
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Encore: Reelin'
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 22:33:36 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Lurker Ray - You obliviously don't know these guys to well. This isn't the first time (in Canada)that they had to cancel a show because of poor tickets sales. And nothing changed as far as the set list the following year. Like I said, they don't care. And speaking of delusional,"Through With "Buzz & Gold Teeth 2? Ain't going to happen.
Can you say Gaslighting Abbey & Security Jones? Bet on it!
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 21:32:24 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Remember a couple of years ago when DF showed up on a little film Mike Leonhart put together for Electro-Harmonix effects pedals? It's worth another look. Pretty funny.
"Hand me my sacred trumpet"!
http://www.ehx.com/blog/stereo-memory-man-with-hazarai-film-by-michael-leonhart
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 21:23:20 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Hey JJ,
Did you se what happened in Montreal?
Yeah, D&W are going to be trucking out
TVN & EMG. Never going to happen dude.
Bet on it.
A delusional lair in Waco? Not surprising.
Thank goodness for Austin.
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 20:56:30 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, CV FAIL
Interestingly, the Waco paper has not posted my reply on their website regarding their fraud perpetrated by the VP of Research:
"The link with Steely Dan and Aja is ABSOLUTELY FALSE.
Indeed, the man who played on Aja and Royal Scam is indeed Richard or Dick "Slyde" Hyde. He is the legendary studio and jazz musician, compatriot of sax player Pete Christieb. Slyde Hyde played *trombone* on tracks including the Caves of Altamira, Sign in Stranger, The Fez, and Royal Scam from the Royal Scam album.
On Aja the Brass section was comprised of Chuck Findlay, Lou McCreary, and Dick "Slyde" Hyde. Saxes & flutes include Jim Horn, Bill Perkins, Wayne Shorter, Plas Johnson, Tom Scott and Jackie Kelso.
Dick "Slyde" Hyde again played Black Cow, Deacon Blues, Home at Last, I Got the News, and Josie.
There is no French horn nor a Truell W. Hyde (who would have been 21) credited on the album Aja.
In contrast, Dick "Slyde" Hyde was a seasoned veteran who had laid down tracks with The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, Michael Jackson, Barbra Streisand, The Rolling Stones, Neil Diamond, Madonna, Prince, Elton John, Stevie Wonder, Diana Ross, The Supremes, Smokey Robinson, Willie Nelson, Ray Charles, Rod Stewart, Steely Dan, The Beach Boys, Chicago, Herbie Hancock, Count Basie, Freddie Hubbard, Al Jarreau, Sammy Davis Jr., Dean Martin, Liza Minnelli, David Lee Roth, George Harrison, Quincy Jones, Tom Jones, The Carpenters, Nelson Riddle, Rickie Lee Jones, Bee Gees, Toto, Carole King, The Jacksons, The Temptations, Commodores, Four Tops, Lee Ritenour, Danny Elfman, John Williams, Ringo Starr, The Doobie Brothers, The Pointer Sisters, Dionne Warwick, Christopher Cross, Tom Scott, Michael McDonald, Captain and Tennille, Boz Scaggs, Supertramp, The Doors, Sam and Dave, The Drifters, and The Coasters.
Here is the REAL Mr. Hyde's myspace page, where you can check out some stellar jazz:
http://www.myspace.com/slydehyde
"
Unbelievable. What possess men to do such? Gov. Bill Richardson claimed for 30 years he was drafted by MLB when ne never was.
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 18:31:00 ET
Posted by: Akron Beacon Journal , Review (Aja)
http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/soundcheck/2009/11/17/steely-dan-plays-aja-at-uof-as-e-j-thomashall/comment-page-1/#comment-1097
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 14:36:49 ET
Posted by: Crusty Punk,
Thanks for the tip Doc. It will make a nice gift for the Turban
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 14:26:44 ET
Posted by: JJ,
duncan - Thanks for wasting two minutes of my life.
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 14:26:24 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
geo
it was a signed copy of Can't Buy a Thrill....it took a long time to scroll through that catalog, otherwise I would tell you the exact page....don't know if it was my computer or the way the catalog was set up, but it took forever...they estimate it will sell for $100-200.
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 14:09:48 ET
Posted by: geo, Flushing, New York
Doc- Can't find the SD item. Would you mind pointing it out? Who knows, maybe I'll bid!
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 13:26:32 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
big rock-n-roll memorabilia auction this weekend in NYC...you can view the catalog online...I only saw on SD item in there....
http://www.juliensauctions.com/auctions/2009/music-icons/index.html
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 13:23:15 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Could the unforeseen circumstances be weak ticket sales for the Royal Scam? Unfortunately for me, that was 4th row center,gone.
Depressed for awhile, but still got T.O.nights and Aja at home.
Can't really be too upset. Also, maybe we'll get a Lets Play Both
bonus as a makeup for this Mtl hardcore fan.Any thoughts on this?
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 12:36:04 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Below is the most recent Twitter entries from last weekend's Milwaukee shows. I'm turning off the real time Twitter updates for now since it make the BlueBook load more slowly. If you wish to possibly tweet the set list from a show in real time to the Blue, email me off the board. Thanks.
Setlists, Ticket Alerts, more...
Tonight, from shores of Lake Michigan,
from the town that gave us the beer that made Milwaukee famous,
"It's the scandalous Royal Scam in its entirety along with select favorites."
• http://yfrog.com/58x8aj 2 days ago
• Last tango. 11:04 pm 2 days ago
• Encore: reelin. ("original") 2 days ago
• Cindy Mizelle guests on My Old School 2 days ago
• Peg 2 days ago
• Coltrane Ross (will explain tomorrow) JB piano intro into Josie 2 days ago
• Daddy Dont Live in NYC.... Itchin in my heart w/band intros 2 days ago
• Godwhacker w/ lead guitr by WB 2 days ago
• Aja I've never seen so many people get up and go for beer runs during the whole show. 2 days ago
• Dirty Work Black Friday 2 days ago
• Standing O. H19 2 days ago
• Eveything U Did. Royal Scam. 2 days ago
• Hatian Div. Great solos, esp WB 2 days ago
• Jon &. Walter too 2 days ago
• Green Earrings. Great solo ESP Jim Beard on Hammond. Rosenberg too. 2 days ago
• Df& wb leave the stage. The Fez. 2 days ago
• DTMA. SIS. 2 days ago
• Kid C w great solo by Jon. Caves. 2 days ago
• Band takes the stage. Teenie's Blues. 2 days ago
• 8:59 pm 2 days ago
• Sam Yahel Trio is done and waiting for our favorite band to take the stage. 2 days ago
==== End Friday Show / Begin Saturday Night Show ==== 2 days ago
• Decade: Milwaukee Danfest hosts 10 years laterr. http://yfrog.com/71ad6hj 3 days ago
• Outro: last tango. 11:13 pm 3 days ago
• Encore: reelin". Intro'd by DF as "the original" 3 days ago
• Jon smokin' 3 days ago
• Kid C. Whole crowd on it's feet dancing. 3 days ago
• Lots of dancing but security is putting the kabosh on it. 3 days ago
• DF. "Yeah baby!" My Old School 3 days ago
• Don't Take Me Alive 3 days ago
• Dirty Work. Itchin in my heart Inc band intros. 3 days ago
• DF"it's just about funkin time". Sho biz kidz 3 days ago
• Hey 19--superb but no WB rant. Godwhacker-->. Thx to a blue post from 2003 I think of Cindoleeza Rice whenever I hear Godwhackr. 3 days ago
• Gr8 toom solo by wb. Blk Fri. Jon solo. Daddy Dont live in that NYC. Jim beard boogie woodie piano. WB solo. Jim Beard solo into Bab Sistrs 3 days ago
• Time out of Mind. DF: "if u find a patch to dance it's ok with us. I don't know about security." 3 days ago
• Incredible solo by WB on Josie. Perhaps the best Aja album performance yet for me. • Standing O!!!!!!!!! 3 days ago
• Jon smokes On Peg solo. 3 days ago
• Jim Pugh is back. Ladies in leather. WB great guitr solo on Aja. Great crowd but not as drunk as Indiana. 3 days ago
• Teenie's Blues into Aja album w/ Blk Cow/Aja/dconBluz/peg/home@last/I got the news/josie standing. O. 3 days ago
• Sam Yahel Trio currently on. 3 days ago
• http://yfrog.com/emiizj 3 days ago
• http://yfrog.com/0xll7j 3 days ago
• http://yfrog.com/0432oj 3 days ago
• http://yfrog.com/12aqruj 3 days ago
• Decade Milwaukee Danfest hosts ten years later. 3 days ago
^^^^ Above will be tonight's Friday @ Milwaukee set list, assuming I can get a signal in the venue. ^^^^ 3 days ago
vvvvv Below is the set list & comments from last week's Merrillville show vvvvv 3 days ago
• 11:00 pm on the dot. 9 days ago
• Kid C. Band leaves stage. Back for encore. Reelin 72. Last tango. The End. 9 days ago
• Here I am: http://bit.ly/3BbZEo 9 days ago
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 12:02 pm ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Dave -
Great pic. I would be a great part of a cover for a live album entitled "High in the Custerdome - Live" or "Live in the Custerdome." But, really, the best thing is that we all have some image of "high in the Custerdome" that we've developed over the years - and we wouldn't have had that fun if not for Messrs. Becker and Fagen.
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 5:46 am ET
Posted by: Just Wondering, Parts Unknown
Any explination yet for this tweet from the Milwaukee concert?
"Coltrane Ross (will explain tomorrow) JB piano intro into Josie 2 days ago"
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 10:47 am ET
Posted by: Akron (Aja), Review
http://www.clevescene.com/c-notes/archives/2009/11/17/concert-review-steely-dan-at-ej-thomas-hall-1116
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 5:46 am ET
Posted by: duncan, UK
Don 0:33 & Walt 0:45
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGvQAJG2DJA&feature=player_embedded
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 8:09 am ET
Posted by: Rajah,
With a Gun is on Pretzel Logic? Hunh. It's all starting to run together I'm afeared...
Beaubo, you raise a salient point. Steely Dan have never been showmen in the old sense of the word. They miss many opportunities to whip a crowd up to fever pitch. In fact, the case could very well be made that they are conscious anti-showmen. In the best tradition of Bertolt Brecht. The verfremdung effect. It's their stock-in-trade.
Or as Ethel Merman said to her daughter in Gypsy, "make them scream for it...then...don't give it to them."
Date: Tues, November 17, 2009, 4:24 am ET
Posted by: Dave, NJ
I grew up in Akron and always envisioned the Custerdome being the Akron Airdock.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/63215679@N00/3143421659
Any chance of using tonight's show for a live CD to be called 11-17-09? I was at the Montclair show last 11-17 and no such luck.
Date: Mon, November 16, 2009, 11:59 pm ET
Posted by: -,
Forgive my picky-ness, byt what is the correct set list? Thank you in advance.
Date: Mon, November 16, 2009, 11:50 pm ET
Posted by: Chip, Akron
What a great show from Akron tonight.Full house at EJ Thomas Hall,2,955 very fired up and appreciative.Local Organ Trio opened up at 7:30.The guys and gals came out at approx. 8:30 and went right into AJA. The girls looked great, Taiwatha and Catherine dressed in short red dresses and Carolyn in black. Their voices are supurb.
After AJA, long standing O
Bodissahva
Hey 19
NY City-Walter
God Whacker
Bablyon Sisters nice intro by Jim Beard
Black Friday
Show Biz kids-funked up version
Dirty Work-Girls
Itchin in my heart-band intros-Walter
Dont Take me Alive
My Old School
Kid C
encore-Reelin in the years original
The crowd didnt want to leave and the band loved it. Going back tomorrow nite!
Date: Mon, November 16, 2009, 11:48 pm ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland
`AKRON setlist (not necessarily in order!)
Aja album
Bodhisattva
Godwhacker
Hey 19 (no Becker rap)
Black Friday
Daddy Don't Live
Dirty Work
Show Biz Kids
Babylon Sisters
Love Itchin
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old SChool
Kid C
Reeling (original)
EJ Thomas is easily the most acoustically perfect venue SD played on this tour...which meant that when DF's voice cracked, it was easy to spot! Nonetheless, what he lacked in power, he made up for in enthusiasm.
Prolonged standing ovation after Aja completed.
Herrington seemed much more aloof this go-round, waaaay off to the left of the stage. I know he is normally positioned there, but it felt like he was in his own world. Suffice to say, great licks.
A quibble, but worth the mention. The crowd got energized and everyone was on their feet when DF was introduced during Itching and stayed up until the end of the song. IF the band would have launched IMMEDIATELY into Don'T Take Me Alive, the crowd would have stayed up and transcended to another level. But, the 30 second break between songs killed that momentum. Another opportunity was at end of Don't take Me Alive fans backi on their feet, but band ratcheted down agin before launching into My Old School, again missed opportunity to keep crowd momentum. And same problem after My Old School leading into Kid C, too long a break. This crowd WANTED to stand at the end, but they were waiting for critical mass of others standing and the accompanying energy...and the band frankly dropped the ball. Those last 4 songs should be played and paced like a MEDLEY, so it sweeps the crowd up.
Rant over!!!!!
Otherwise, a dynamite show and looking forward to Round 2 tomorrow!
Thanks to my cuz for setting me up with 7th row dead center!!
Date: Mon, November 16, 2009, 10:42 pm ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Montreal Nov 29 Cancelled!!!
Montreal Nov 29 Cancelled
Due to unforseen circumstances, the Sunday November 29th show at MontrealC-s Salle Wilfrid-Pelletier has been cancelled. Ticket holders for the cancelled performance may exchange their tickets for seats at the November 28th show. Exchanges must be made through the Place Des Arts Box Office at (514) 842-2112 or (866) 842-2112. Alternatively, refunds will be issued through the tickets' original point of purchase. For more info please contact the Place Des Arts Box Office at (514) 842-2112 or (866) 842-2112.
Now, Nov 28 at Montreal QC is the tour closing night.
Date: Mon, November 16, 2009, 10:02 pm ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, not Baylor
Slyde Hyde's first name is Richard, goes by Dick or Slyde, and he plays the trombone on Aja & Scam. Buddy of Pete Christlieb for many years
myspace page:
http://www.myspace.com/slydehyde
There is no French horn nor accordion on Aja.
Date: Sun, November 15, 2009, 2:40 pm ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
can anyone provide any insight into this article? This guy is not "Slyde" Hyde, and it sounds like he might not be telling the truth...
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2009/11/15/11152009wactruellhyde.html
Date: Mon, November 16, 2009, 8:48 pm ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
the last Montreal show has been cancelled, info at steelydan.com
Nov 29 - Montreal QC - Salle Wilfred-Pelletier | cancelled
Due to unforseen circumstances, the Sunday November 29th show at MontrealC-s Salle Wilfrid-Pelletier has been cancelled. Ticket holders for the cancelled performance may exchange their tickets for seats at the November 28th show. Exchanges must be made through the Place Des Arts Box Office at (514) 842-2112 or (866) 842-2112. Alternatively, refunds will be issued through the tickets' original point of purchase. For more info please contact the Place Des Arts Box Office at (514) 842-2112 or (866) 842-2112.
Date: Mon, November 16, 2009, 5:48 pm ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland
In this brave new world of concert promotion companies being consolidated into a couple of big blocs, B & F (or ANY band for that matter) are not their own bosses anymore when it comes to touring.
Promoters are demanding a saleable product to go along with the brandname of the band- hence the phenomenon of playing full length classic albums.
If anyone wants to hear a chock full of SD and DF deep cuts, I encourage you tp contact their management where they will happily play a private gig with your own 'customized' set list. Expect a price tag north of $450K, so hopefully you have a lot of likeminded friends...or the need for a whopping tax deduction.
Off to neighboring metropolis Akron for a twofer!!! My wife who is a reasonably adept SD fan, could not be happier about the Aja showcase. I think she is the archtypical SD fan....so as far as the band's set list are concerned for everyone here---- deal with it!!!!!!
Date: Mon, November 16, 2009, 4:03 pm ET
Posted by: JJ,
Bookkeeper's, Nightmare - You mean like the con job they did with the request nights? Get people to vote online and buy tickets, and then play the same songs over and over again. Do you really think that they ever even looked at what the fans voted on? They don't give a shit. How many times do they have to prove it to you/us?
Date: Mon, November 16, 2009, 3:13 pm ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
Live Nation just released several seats right down front (face value of course) for the Thursday and Friday night shows at The Tower in Philly.
Date: Mon, November 16, 2009, 1:39 pm ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's, Nightmare
B & F are cognizant of the need to keep the tour solvent. You can't say they don't give a shit in that respect.
Date: Mon, November 16, 2009, 1:32 pm ET
Posted by: CerpinTaxt,
Hey to break it to you Rajah but With a Gun is on Pretzel Logic. Either way, I'd take Countdown OR Pretzel live any day!
Date: Mon, November 16, 2009, 11:26 am ET
Posted by: JJ,
Lurker Ray - I agree with you 100%. But B&F don't give a shit and will always do the unexpected. Bet on it!
Date: Mon, November 16, 2009, 4:17 am ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Nope, no barrel rolls in the bi-plane, even I'm not that crazy.
Everthing Must Go...yeah, that's a possibility, it's relatively brief and light, Greenbook and Pixeleen being the more difficult challenges. Walt W owns the title track. But few are familiar with it, generally speakin'.
TvN? More problematic with Almost Gothic and Negative Girl. Even Janie, Abbie and What a Shame are tricky. A sound man's nightmare I would think.
Can't Buy a Thrill would be a huge hit with the regular fan. I'd love to hear what Walter and Jon might do with Kings.
Katy Lied is when this band really opened up and changed, morphed, if you will, into something completely different. They've gotten over the Dr. Wu hump, so, maybe yes, this is a strange record. Very tentative, it's quite a transition they were making here. Unfinished? Yeah, somewhat but some brilliant moments.
The great overlooked Steely Dan album? Countdown. With a Gun is one of the tightest little bluegrass gems of the early 70s. Might need Skunk back for that one. Hey, stranger things have happened...
Date: Mon, November 16, 2009, 12:46 am ET
Posted by: Lurker & Ray, Malibu & Sunshine
J&J -
"Mom & Pop" & "Joe & Sixpack"
will never sit through "TVN"
or "EMG". Especially in this
economic climate. Bet on it.
Date: Sun, November 15, 2009, 9:58 pm ET
Posted by: SETH2112, CLEVELAND VIA TAMPA AND NYC
ANYONE HAVE ONE EXTRA FOR TOMORROW, MONDAY NIGHTS HOW IN AKRON?
Date: Sun, November 15, 2009, 9:31 pm ET
Posted by: JJ,
DDeaconBlues16/Lurker Ray - Don't waste your time trying to analyze the next two albums they're going to play live, because this, to me, is a no-brainer:
1- Two Against Nature
2- Everything Must Go
Bet on it!
Date: Sun, November 15, 2009, 2:40 pm ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
can anyone provide any insight into this article? This guy is not "Slyde" Hyde, and it sounds like he might not be telling the truth...
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2009/11/15/11152009wactruellhyde.htmlDate: Sun, November 15, 2009, 1:16 pm ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel,Cool, an Elvis Costello "Show Biz" tribute to SD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHJnnE3HqCg
I have to say, the re-engineered touring version of Show Biz Kids is one of their best adaptations ever, and a huge crowd pleaser. The genius is in creating a new tune while remaining reverent to the Ecstasy original.
Here's a far too short snippet, just posted on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxwrJxCPMF0
Date: Sun, November 15, 2009, 9:35 am ET
Posted by: To Dean from Montplier,Dean...thanks for your well intentions and concern. It's simply a private matter. Email hoops privately for further explanation of the situation.
Date: Sun, November 15, 2009, 8:53 am ET
Posted by: Milwaukee (Aja), Reviewhttp://www.jsonline.com/entertainment/musicandnightlife/70087342.html
Date: Sun, November 15, 2009, 6:01 am ET
Posted by: Jaydee, LondonJive Miguel - excellent YouTube link, thanks.
Someone recently mentioned DF's jacket - just found nice clear pic of logo on Flickr (looks like a St Bernard to me):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/snowbunting/3669812894/sizes/l/in/set-72157622529142715/
SD tribute bands also mentioned a while back - UK's best (of those I've seen) are 'Nearly Dan' from somewhere oop north, but occasionally gig at London's prestigious Jazz Cafe, and 'Stealing Dan and Don', who I first saw as a duo years ago, but now regularly appear as full band at noted west London jazz venue the Bull's Head. Both worth catching.
We won't ever hear 'Second Arrangement' played live, of course (though I think YouTube has a nice clip of a US tribute band version), but I've never really got what the fuss is all about anyway. Outtakes have always sounded pretty run-of-the-mill to me, but maybe I'm missing something.
Perfect pitch ? Great for caulking clinker-built ships.
Date: Sat, November 14, 2009, 5:11 pm ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, DChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMUCqEbUPfs
Sharp quality audio and video. Very nice.
Herington, stoic and professorial, is laser-like.
Don's pipes seems to be holding up beautifully.
Looking forward to Aja + at DAR Constitution Hall on 11/22.
Date: Sat, November 14, 2009, 9:05 am ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,All right Lurker Ray, I'll break it down.
Besides Aja, The Royal Scam, and Gaucho, the albums where Steely Dan has come closest to playing all of their songs are Two Against Nature (never played Negative Girl as far as I know) and Everything Must Go (never played Green Book as far as I know). In interviews this summer, Fagen has said something to the effect that he thinks these are great albums with no "clunkers," but they couldn't play them live because "no one would show up." So, unless they can some how make it so a large portion of the fanbase is somehow willing to see a show with those albums, it is unlikely to occur.
That brings us to their first four albums. Since 1993, they have played 4/10 songs from Can't Buy a Thrill. While this is probably one of their highest selling albums and is loved by many fans who appreciate their early sound, I can't imagine the duo playing songs like Change of the Guard and Turn that Heartbeat Over Again based on some comments I've read on their apparent attitude toward that particular album.
As we all know, Countdown to Ecstasy was not initially a commercial success, but it was critically. It has aged well, and they already feature songs like Bodhisattva, My Old School, and Show Biz Kids on a fairly regular basis. The only other song they've played from that album since 1993 is The Boston Rag. In the 70s, King of the World was part of the setlist, and if it means anything, Your Gold Teeth made the msg.com Internet Request Night voting list. It seems like this should be a viable option for the next album.
Perhaps surprisingly, however, they have played 7/11 songs from Pretzel Logic since reconvening in 1993. Rikki Don't Lose that Number is obviously one of their biggest hits, and they are at least willing to play it even if they don't really want to. Any Major Dude and the title track have been part of setlists this year. They've played Monkey in Your Soul, but would Fagen feel comfortable "reclaiming the vocal" like he did for Haitian Divorce and Gaucho? Of the four songs they haven't played, they played Barrytown in the 70s. Here's where it gets tricky though. Would they ever play songs like Through with Buzz, Charlie Freak, and With A Gun? Keep in mind that this is also one of their most popular albums to the masses. If they can figure out a way to reinvent those songs, then this is a possibility.
That brings us to Katy Lied. There are only 3 songs on Katy Lied they haven't played now: Your Gold Teeth II, Throw Back the Little Ones, and Rose Darling. To me, they might be at least more likely to play those then some of the stuff on Pretzel Logic and Can't Buy a Thrill. They've been opening shows with Black Friday a lot recently as well, so this would work with that. On the down side, however, I still think they want to avoid Dr. Wu, and this presents the same problem that Monkey in Your Soul did for Pretzel Logic with Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More. Additionally, is this a popular enough album to perform live? I'm not sure.
I have one final possibility that I think is a longshot: The Nightfly. They've already played IGY, Ruby Baby, Green Flower Street, and New Frontier. Fagen has played the title track, Maxine, and The Goodbye Look on his 2006 tour. I believe the only song from this album never played live in any context is Walk Between the Raindrops, and I could be wrong about that. The questions are: a). Would enough people come to see a Fagen solo album? b). Would Fagen be comfortable enough to do this? c). Would Becker be willing to do this? It definitely would be interesting.
Date: Sat, November 14, 2009, 9:01 am ET
Posted by: hoops,Thanks for the kind and supportive comments regarding the Dandom ticket scholarships....I'm just a "Show Biz Kid" in all that--really it's the generous and anonymous Danfans who want to do a a turn for the good without anyone knowing it who are The Best.
Speaking of The Best, thanks to Chris, Tony, Dale, Steve and so many other Danfans who we met up with last night before and after the show. They made it all possible.
Date: Sat, November 14, 2009, 2:57 am ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, Here at the Midwestern World
Yeah Baby!!!!
Another hot show. Sound was very, very good but not excellent, EXCEPT for the fact that Walter was way up in the mix, very easy to hear his playing throughout and he was smoking on the solos, Aja, Home at Last, Josie, Black Friday, Godwhacker!!!, Show Biz. He was very prominent all night long. No story during Hey 19, he sauntered up to the mike and busted out "skate a little lower now" and "sure looks good". Saw Jon & Jim Beard at John Hawks Pub after the show.
More after the Scam tomorrow night!
KC
Date: Sat, November 14, 2009, 12:06 am ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County ARBravo molto, Rajah. Having been the beneficiary of the "Gary 'the Wolf' Johnson/TIS Scholarship Program" more than once, I thought it might be good to volunteer to help defray any administrative costs associated with the Hoops gig, but I'd better just send a check.
And speaking of Czechs, did your pilot friend ever put you in charge and roll out of the plane tightly clutching a large gymbag full of dirty laundry and loosely holding a mimi-10?
And didn't you find solace and strength in the old pilot's saw that anybody can fly a plane (even at a mere 500 feet) knowing that your buddy would have his old fashioneds made and be back at work before you were required to be the only one body in about a hundred thousand that could LAND the crate?
Anyway, your Danormous Steelossomoness makes for (for me, anyway) just the sort of excess I moderate as I wallow in it. Thank you (and Hoops, of course) for your Beckerrific Fagenspirations.
More to the point: As I reread those six-day-old tweets about being "...at the Steely Dan Show...," it occurred to me that that one chorister in the middle sort of defines the term, "standing O."
Date: Fri, November 13, 2009, 8:03 pm ET
Posted by: Young Wu, In awe of Dan Fans once again..."Dandom.com Scholarship program"??
That is an amazing idea. You rock, Hoops. So does everyone who contributes to it.
Date: Fri, November 13, 2009, 7:25 pm ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu"Obama Does Aja"
- Headline heard on KCRW this afternoon.
Enjoy the shows Beertown!
Looking forward to the ticker tape.
So they are thinking of perhaps
doing some more "Album Nights"!!!
What do you think? It's gotta
be "Countdown" and/or "Katy".
They already play/played many
of the tracks from either or.
I'm sure DB!6 can break it down
for us :O)
But oh to hear "King of The World"
and "Pearl of the Quarter".
Dear Santa......
Date: Fri, November 13, 2009, 6:15 pm ET
Posted by: hoops, on my way out the door to MilwaukeeThe Deep Blue Organ Trio opened for Steely Dan last year at the Chicago Theatre.
Date: Fri, November 13, 2009, 4:56 pm ET
Posted by: zootnewton, NYCI concur with my Arthurian constituent - We NEED a live recording/DVD (preferably HD) of this album night lineup! How can we make this happen? I also especially need a recording of this new (and IMHO improved) version of Showbiz Kids.
Sir Neavey, I have heard an above average audience recording of one of the summer Boston shows at The Wang Theater.
Date: Fri, November 13, 2009, 3:49 pm ET
Posted by: vudutu, CincinnastiWOW, night two was amazing, I had to go down and thank the sound guy, best sound I have ever heard at the Taft, I was front and center balcony, (thanks to tommytomato who I hooked up with through hoops to find my tix. i walked to every corner and sound was near perfect. Night two was even better than the first. If anyone is questioning the tix cost believe me it is worth it. Second on all of ScottyA comments except I did not find the crowd to be any more obnoxious than any other concert, all my seat neighbors were great. If I had any crits at all It would be the band was almost too perfect and true to the originals, would have liked to have seen them step out a little more, I would love to see the Dan do more a jazz album. Scotty A, can't help wonder if you know who our local guitar wiz Scotty Anderson is, I am pretty sure based on your comments it's not you, never seen Scotty drink Newcastle! Here is a clip, love to see him hook with the Dan on a jazz album. Chet Adkins one said of Scotty "Scotty plays Chet better than Chet". Enjoy his speedy chops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Dxb8YnGTs
Date: Fri, November 13, 2009, 3:37 pm ET
Posted by: Rajah,Hoopsie, you have a heart as big as the great outdoors with this Scholarship Program. Words fail. Where do I send my Krugerands?
But one note to you, dear old friend, when you admonish us to, "fly low," this is actually a very dangerous thing. I have a great engineer friend in LA who used to take me up in his bi-plane, 1929 technology you understand, stick command and all, open cockpit, double seat belts so you won't fall out. To fly low, my dear Host, is to do the most dangerous of manuevers. We used to fly along the coast of Orange County and he'd all of a sudden say, "take the controls, beeeatch," and I'd just freeze, so scary. But fun. This was after I'd finished paying off my daughter's college fees so I figured, fuck it, if I go down so be it.
Anyway, flying low is very dangerous at 500 feet.
So, maybe, fly high and soar but do no harm, Dandom
Ezra was a good guy, he siphoned off many a Steely Dan treasure to us over the years. I grieve. Too young, too young..
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 1:30 pm ET
Posted by: anymanleft, rio grandeThanks Pop Warner for the bio on TDBOT, sounds like a good warm up for the show. Have they played with SD before? Or is this a Philly exclusive? T minus 7 days and counting....
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 11:53 am ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago, getting reading for Milwaukee, Sizzling like an isotopeJust a reminder of our Dandom.com Scholarship program.
Here's how it works:
If you are unemployed or in an otherwise situation of true financial hardship and want to go to a show, quietly contact me and I will put you on a private and discreet list. Some questions may be asked sometimes just to verify that the situation is for real.
If, on the other hand, you have a ticket you are willing to part with and donate it to someone who fits the description above, let me know. I will pair your ticket with them.
We do ask that if you get such a ticket, that you submit a set list and brief review of the show to the Dandom Digest the day after the show--but no need to reveal that you were a scholarship recipient.
We tried this in 1996 and 2000 and it was a success; it's also worked for some during the recent West Coast shows. Some Danfans were made very happy. It's the Danfan equivalent of the "miracle" thing I used to see at Grateful Dead shows, but you don't have to stand on the side of the road near the venue with your index finger pointing up.
Thanks for your consideration and generosity.
Jim
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 11:34 am ET
Posted by: PopWarner, QUOTEThe Deep Blue Organ Trio is a Chicago based jazz organ trio made up of jazz guitarist Bobby Broom, Hammond B3 organist Chris Foreman and drummer Greg Rockingham. In their individual careers they have performed and recorded with many prominent musicians in the field of jazz and blues.
Although they have been playing together since 1992, they officially formed this co-led group in 2000 and have recorded three albums, two for Delmark Records in 2004 and 2006 and one in 2007 for Origin Records. While the trio displays elements of the soul jazz and hard bop styles of jazz, they have also been known to utilize rock music as well as the rhythm & blues medium in their music.
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 11:26 am ET
Posted by: Sir Neavey, Dixie, USADONALD AND WALTER: RECORD THESE SHOWS!!!!!!!
PLEASE. PRETTY PLEASE. DOUBLE EXTRA PRETTY PLEASE!!!!
I have had the good fortune to see shows in Chicago and Cinci. The band is simply on FIRE!!! The sound is UBER PHAT. Like an 800 lb burrito. Like a 2 handed tootsie roll. Silly good. Charlie Martinez running FOH works more majic than Merlin. The sound quality, imaging, tonal balance, definition.......all absolutely world class.
..and the band is simply dialed in. Every member doing a fabulous job every night. I feel this is a really special period in history. Each player is hall of fame quality. The vibe is GREAT.
We MUST get Donald and Walter to record these shows. It sets up perfectly for a multi disk set. Each album re-released live, with a bonus disk or two of extra material. It would be AWESOME!!!!
PLEASE RECORD THE SHOWS!!
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 8:34 am ET
Posted by: Bob's yer Uncle, Minneapolis"Is there any reason Donald and Walter won't play 2nd Arrangement after all these years? A lot of people want to hear it"
I've heard this a lot on this forum and I don't get it. Yes, "we" want to hear obscure tunes from our favorite artists, but do you hear other groups playing songs that they never put on any album. They had a reason they didn't use it on any album.
It would be a major bathroom break concert song since about .005 percent of the crowd would understand what they were hearing.
But I agree I would love to hear it...it just will never happen.
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:28 am ET
Posted by: Why No, 2aBenne,
The dog ate the sheet music.
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2009, 11:06 pm ET
Posted by: hoops, In Chicago, but headed to Milwaukee this weekendDanfan Meetups are firmed up and happenin' for the next four sets of shows--Milwaukee, Akron, Philly and Washington, D.C.
Check out www.dandom.com/danfests for the latest on the "Where-To-Go" and the "What-to-Do".
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2009, 8:09 pm ET
Posted by: Benne,Is there any reason Donald and Walter won't play 2nd Arrangement after all these years? A lot of people want to hear it.
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2009, 7:08 pm ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Toweropening for Steely Dan at the Tower next week:
http://deepblueorgantrio.com
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2009, 2:56 pm ET
Posted by: hoops, chicagoEzra passsed away in late July and, while we didn't understand it at the time, it was likely why DF dedicated "Third World Man" at the July 31 Beacon show to Ezra.
This has been noted before but it is warmly repeated for well-wishing Danfans. Although a non-SD-related site or two had mention of it, a few of the best kind of Danfans posted their condolences here in early August; but they were withdrawn from this site. The same fans kindly understood that if Donald and Steely Dan were not mentioning the tragedy, then we should give Donald and his family some space on this. Several weeks ago, it seemed that enough time had passed so there have been some low-key tributes and expressions of sympathy. However, it seems that Donald prefers privacy rather than a lot of attention which could get sensationalized in the media. Hence why there's little if any discussion here.
Best wishes and many thanks,
Jim
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2009, 2:39 pm ET
Posted by: fagenism, -It was not until today that I learnt that Ezra Titus passed away earlier this year. Such horribly sad news. I had the great pleasure of having some quite thorough email correspondence with him back in 2006, and he struck me as a very funny and intelligent guy.
Obviously we touched upon The Dan a few times. I feel quite confident he would have liked me to share his observations of The Duo with fellow Dan fans, so I posted some of them below.
RIP Ezra.
* * *
I just drove from Florida to New York to come and visit my mom and Donald. I actually asked him if there is a specific methodology to his songwriting and his answer was anti-climactic and, to me, somewhat predictable. There is no formula. It's just what one comes up with at a given time, and is of course informed by one's life experiences up until that date. The unique quality of Steely Dan is really just a lucky accident created by the chemistry that comes into play when Donald and Walter work together.
Sorry, that's the best I could do. I wish I could tell you it's a diminished G minor seventh sus 29 chord involving 34 notes that took them 19 years to create and is the basis for every riff in the key of "S". But honestly, it's just what they know, what sounds good to them, what their influences are, and their getapho-like insistence on perfection. It's like the story of a person's life put on paper. No two will ever be the same.
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2009, 12:11 pm ET
Posted by: Yak, Yak, Yak,At almost EVERY concert I go to, I have to politely ask people around me to stop talking -- concert-goers at every show, of all ages, just never stop yakking and it really makes me NOT want to go to shows anymore. When a friend of mine (not so politely) told a group of girls to shut up, one of them responded with: "But I'm at a concert". People are not at all about the music these days; it's all about the social aspect of it. It's really very unfortunate for those of us who are there to hear the music, especially when we're paying SO much for tickets. You would think ticket prices would keep these idiots away but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2009, 8:19 am ET
Posted by: Young Wu, "Old Wu"! Haha... what fun!"I really hope that they take Don't Take Me Alive and My Old School off fthe set list. I've seen them over 50 times and I'm tired of those songs."
Well, since you've been lucky enough to see them more than 50 times, why don't you not fucking complain?
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2009, 6:51 am ET
Posted by: Philly, Interviewhttp://www.philly.com/inquirer/magazine/20091112_Cold__Aloof__No__not_this_Steely_Dan.html
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2009, 1:37 am ET
Posted by: The Great Zo, Wilmington, OhioHere is the correct, full setlist for the 11/11/2009 show in Cincinnati.
1-9) The Royal Scam (full album)
10) Hey Nineteen
11) Dirty Work
12) Black Friday
13) Aja
14) Daddy...
15) Itchin' (band intros)
16) Snow Biz Kids
17) Josie
18) Peg
19) My Old School
---
enc 20) Reelin' In The Years (original)
Whoever said it was an obnoxious crowd was correct. I was sandwiched between a middle-aged country-club zombie and a pack of frat boys -- all plastered before Sam Yahel had Yahel'd his way off the stage.
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2009, 12:36 am ET
Posted by: ScottyA, CincyMore thoughts from the Taft..
Don's vocals were more out front tonight.
Herrington was on fire and traded licks with Walt several times. (Big Smiles all around)
I think the Fez loses something without Don and Walt.
Walts rap in Hey 19 was very comical. Got a nice laugh from the crowd with the "These tix aren't cheap line..)
Beautiful theater.. Was very surprised they let us take glass bottles of cold Newcastle to our seats.
Don reminds me of Lawrence Welk with his stage movements and directing.
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2009, 12:22 am ET
Posted by: suedave, HFSFrom that Akron interview (thanks for posting)...
"...After the Rent Party '09 Tour, both men will take some time to do solo recordings, and Fagen said they are considering breaking out one or two more old albums to play in their entirety and that there will be a new Steely Dan album ''eventually.''
Holy F*ck! Is this for real?
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2009, 12:08 am ET
Posted by: ScottyA, CincyTaft Theater Cincy 11-11-09
The band was HOT SO!
Royal Scam Album
Hey 19 (Don Rap)
Dirty Work (Girls)
Aja (Kinda bouncy, goes on for a while)
Daddy Don't Live in NYC
Itchin in my heart Intros
Show Biz Kids
Peg
My Old School
E - Reelin in the Years
The band had more bounce in the step tonight.. Great energy!! More crowd participation with standing and dancing.. ... I stand by my most obnoxious crowd of the tour comment from last night. Tonight was the first time I've seen someone be removed from a Steely Dan show by security. 2nd song of the night.. What an IDIOT! Also tons of chatter blah blah blah.. If your not there to see the band, Stay Home!!
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 11:36 pm ET
Posted by: Old Wu,
I really hope that they take Don't Take Me Alive and My Old School off fthe set list. I've seen them over 50 times and I'm tired of those songs.
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 10:57 pm ET
Posted by: Akron, Interview
http://www.ohio.com/entertainment/69775212.html
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 9:34 pm ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks for the Taft reports!
I tried to post and warn you
hoops that THE mental patient
was once again out of the hospital
and off his meds.
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 7:41 pm ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
Nicholas, have a little faith in our Donald...
he may want to record "lighter" songs,
but not that light. It's all relative:)
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 6:36 pm ET
Posted by: Moderation...., to stop the trolls
Moderated? Finally!
Although I've been on the Internet since the early 90's I have yet to understand the constant appearance of people who throw a spanner/wrench in the works just to ... see what other people respond.
A waste of time as far as I see, but the fact that enough people - myself included - have, one time or another, bothered to answer these people with the vague hope of makinge them see the light, gradually coming to the insight that it is ... just a waste of time.
Trolls are what they are.
And while Donald and Walter moved from the rock towards jazz, one man - do I have to spell his Internet abbrevation? - insisted on trying to get Donald, Walter and the band to go back to those early guitar based records.
Why?
Don't feed the trolls:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 6:01 pm ET
Posted by: Steve,
Get thet NYBilldoe gone.
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 5:42 pm ET
Posted by: vudutu, QUOTE
Killer show last night at the Taft in Cincinnasti, still a little overhung from last night but so stoked Im going back tonight. I don't what more to say that has not been said. This is a great bunch of players, it was note perfect, thanks guys.
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 3:51 pm ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Imagine Donald singing "Nobody Does It Better" or "That's What Friends Are For," and then hope, yea pray, that whatever collaboration he had with the lyricist for those songs has long since been relegated to the dustbin. Nice find, though, Bob K.
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 3:25 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben
, Tall County AR
I allus say, "Moderation in all things-- especially excess." And we wouldn't be loving the things we share if they weren't with my kind of those to which this whole thing is dedicated.
Thanks, Hoops.
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 3:03 PM ET
Posted by: Bob K, Reelin' in the years, 2003, to be exact
Back on May 16, 2003:
Fagen solo record to follow EMG:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,87073,00.html <-------link is now broken, six years later
"Carole Bayer Sager -- the lyricist who has collaborated on hits like "Theme from Arthur," "Nobody Does it Better" and 'That's What Friends Are For' -- is writing songs with Donald Fagen of Steely Dan fame.
It takes a minute to absorb. But it's true. Carole -- who was often mistaken for Joan Collins by paparazzi at The Matrix Reloaded premiere in New York -- told me herself. The story goes that she and Carly Simon have been working together on some new songs for Carly's next album. Simon, of course, had a big hit with "Nobody Does it Better," which Sager wrote with Marvin Hamlisch.
"Carly said, 'You should meet my friend Libby. She's married to Donald Fagen.'" Libby is Libby Titus, who has children with Levon Helm of The Band. A few phone calls later, Carole was reeling in the years, helping Fagen write lyrics for a solo album. That album will follow the new Steely Dan record, called Everything Must Go, which comes out on June 10."
There was also that collaboration with Jobim..........maybe Donald is going wrap up all those old collaborations he was thinking of making.
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 2:44 PM ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
God damn, I cannot wait for this show! I just really hope they keep Don't Take Me Alive and My Old School in the setlist. I've only seen them live once and love those songs.
Springsteen next Sunday and then Steely Dan three days later. Gonna be a great Thanksgiving week!
Oh, what's going on with the moderation on the bluebook? I have no problem with it, but did something happen?
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 14:15 ET
Posted by: angel,
Wow, elated and sad, both at the same time.
New music from The Donald!!!!!
No new music from my favorite group, Steely Dan...sigh
Please guys, get together for another one...please
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 12:49 ET
Posted by: Joe W., Cleveland
We're planning a fan meet-up this Sunday before the Akron show.
Check out http://www.dandom.com//pipermail/cleveland/ for Akron meet-up details My email about our plans is there.
and
http://www.dandom.com/danfests for general info on meet-ups near you.
Joe
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 12:43 ET
Posted by: Last Night, Cinci
Awesome Show last night!
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 11:28:32 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
From here on out we're in moderation mode.
Thanks for your patience as things will take a little longer to appear.
It's unfortunate that one person's mental illness means we all have to wait.
Best wishes and many thanks as always.
Jim
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 11:28:32 ET
Posted by: Big jimmy, north country
Thanks, Whoa -
I get it - he's just a standard RP (Rupert Pupkin) -
I think I'll just back out the room now and head back to planet Earth -
Bye now -
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 09:07:05 ET
Posted by: NYB, a little civilization perhaps?
***REMOVED***
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 06:58:28 ET
Posted by: Whoa, there
***REMOVED***
Date: Wed, November 11, 2009, 00:45:08 ET
Posted by: big jimmy, north country
i check out this site occasionally - this is my 1st post -
what's the deal with this nyb guy?
is he like some sort of SD anti-fan or is he drunk or what?
Date: Tues, November 10, 2009, 22:58:59 ET
Posted by: ScottyA, Cincy
Taft Theater 11-10-09
Aja Album
Time Out of Mind
Bodhisatva
Daddy Don't Live in NYC
Babylon Sisters
Hey 19 (Walt Rap)
Black Friday
Show Biz Kids
Dirty Work (Girls)
Itchin in my Heart Intros
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid C
E- Reeling in the Years
Sound was awesome although Dons vocals were buried at times.. Probably one of the most obnoxious crowds I've ever seen at a show.. "No Sir I don't have any weed. Your old enough to be my dad and you probably couldn't handle it anyway. Teh weed is much stronger now than it was in the 60's hahaha"
Date: Tues, November 10, 2009, 16:04:17 ET
Posted by: NYBill aka Little Caesar,
***REMOVED***
Date: Tues, November 10, 2009, 13:12:40 ET
Posted by: Your Asian Bride, Cleveland, home of the Fagen's
Donald's family--late parents and sister's family--all live/d in the Cleveland area. Always good SD-connected interviews in the Plain Dealer and even the Cleveland Jewish paper.
Date: Tues, November 10, 2009, 08:36:30 ET
Posted by: Last year's, papers
HTF did the Plain Dealer get to break this? Must be a stipulation of SD's Hall of Fame induction.
Date: Tues, November 10, 2009, 00:01:28 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Zombie-land
That's as expected Billy. I mean, what's after Death?
Pristine adult pop-jazz, that's whut...or the 6 Knopfler solo albums before he finally made one with actual tunes like Get Lucky.
Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUnyJd9xoHA
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 23:41:54 ET
Posted by: Janeane B., River Falls, WI by way of Dallas
Hi ya'll:
I just wanted to give my 2 cents about the Mpls show on Sunday night.
This was only my second ever SD show, the first being the Internet Request night at the Chicago Theater back in September.
My thoughts:
Compared to the Chicago Theater, the acoustics were much better. We had better seats at the Northrup Auditorium at the U of M, as well, so that made a difference, too!
I thought that the crowd, at least where we were, was very enthusiastic, maybe a little "Minnesota Nice" perhaps, but still very respectful,and excited, and everyone gave DF an enormous standing ovation. The crowd had a good mix of ages, possibly owing to its location on a University campus.
I loved the rendition of "Deacon Blues", as I had missed that at the Internet Request night. Ditto with "My Old School".
Overall, we had a blast in Minneapolis seeing the Dan. I also hope they don't wait 6 more years to come through here again!
--Janeane B.
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 22:26:32 ET
Posted by: Prio , Minneapolis
One more thing regarding the Minneapolis concert. While I see that a link to the Minneapolis StarTribune review was posted, here is the St Paul Pioneer Press review (mostly worthless).
http://www.twincities.com/entertainment/ci_13744920
To show you how little of a clue this reviewer has, check out the last line of his article -
"Fagen and Becker may not have toured together for 20 years, but Sunday's show gave the impression that they've rediscovered the rewards of live performance and are once again excited about the unique sound they've created."
My goodness, I realize that journalism is tough sledding these days, but how low must you set the bar?
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 22:16:35 ET
Posted by: Prio , Minneapolis
For the first (and likely only) time in my life I actually sprung for a first row ticket (orchestra pit)in Minneapolis last night.
Regarding the insignia on Donald's blazer - it was even difficult for me to make it out despite being as close as I was. It was definitely a dog, but not a boxer - more of a red and white spaniel of some sort. The words underneath looked like "Prio Alfore" (or Alfare). I did a google search without any luck. There were even a few more words under the "Prio" but it was impossible to make those out. Maybe someone had binoculars?
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 21:18:06 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
This is great news. We have something to look forward to that will truly be unique. The post-modern Fagen.
Good news.
The end of a perfect day actually.
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 20:33:18 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Thanks for all the great updates and links.
Sounds as if the boys sound as great as ever and it is certainly good news to hear we may get a Fagen album sometime in the near future.
I love that NYB is complaining about an album before it has even been recorded. That says it all, I think.
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 20:23:37 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Hey Minneapolis! What was that
monogrammed onto Donald's swank
new jacket last night? It looked
like a dog/Boxer of some sort with
some script/logo.
Thanks for all of the links.
Finally, Steely Dan and KISS in
the same review. Ezra would have
loved that and ribbed his Step D to
no end for sure. Very cool.
Donald Fagen Solo Tour Spring
2011? I'm there. NYB I thought
you had been banned to St Al's
Wet Dream site? What happened?
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 17:37:06 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
NYB:
My interpretation of that quote is that it's going to be something not related to the trilogy lyrical content and perspective (youth, middle age, and old age) and is not a concept album (like all Steely Dan albums). I think lighter was just a word he was using to describe that. I doubt that it will be significantly different musically than anything we've heard by Steely Dan/Fagen, although that would be interesting.
No matter how the album differs from the previous ones, if it does indeed come to fruition, I will look forward to hearing it.
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 15:55:01 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
from the Cleveland Plain Dealer:
After Steely Dan tour, Donald Fagen eyes another solo album next year
By John Soeder, The Plain Dealer
November 09, 2009, 3:30PM
Excerpt:
“Walter and I keep tossing around ideas for another Steely Dan album, but there’s nothing set yet,” Fagen said during a recent phone interview.Full article at : http://www.cleveland.com/popmusic/index.ssf/2009/11/after_steely_dan_tour_donald_f.html
Up next for him: another solo project.
“I have a bunch of songs that I’m set to record sometime in the spring,” Fagen said.
No, his next solo outing won’t pick up where his “Nightfly” trilogy (including 1982’s “The Nightfly,” 1993’s “Kamakiriad” and 2006’s “Morph the Cat”) left off.
. . .
“This will be something lighter, just a one-off.”
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 15:46:21 ET
Posted by: anymanleft, rio grande
Great interview... I especially like Walt's answer on why thier music has held up. There will always be a place for well-written well-performed music like SD. It continues to remain timeless while everything around it changes.
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 13:41:52 ET
Posted by: More, Interviews
This was an interview for the Minneapolis show. I don't think it was posted here yet. Some funny answers.
http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/music/69296937.html?page=1&c=y
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 11:43:05 ET
Posted by: sffandavid, chicago
RE: Crowd at Merrillville it was rocking. Dancing in Aisles people standing really really into it.
Could not get a setlist. Every concert I have been to I have been unsuccessful. Maybe a cute girl would attract the roadies attention.
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 11:40:15 ET
Posted by: sffandavid, Chicago
Hello All: Have seen about 6 SD shows...one back in early 90's I believe at old Poplar Creek near Chicago.
Then 2008 and this tour.
Went to Show in Indiana on Saturday and really thought Walter stole the show. Great solos really loved his work on Home at Last. Herrington was almost forgotten.
Loved to see Walter show his stuff.
On to Milwaukee enjoy all.!
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 08:12:26 ET
Posted by: Cincinnati, Interview
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20091109/ENT03/911090304/1025/ENT/For+Steely+Dan++it+s++Aja++vu+all+over+again
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 08:08:40 ET
Posted by: Another Minneapolis, Review
http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/music/69534927.html?elr=KArks:DCiUHc3E7_V_nDaycUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 02:01:25 ET
Posted by: Twin Cities, Review
http://www.twincities.com/entertainment/ci_13744920
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 01:02:48 ET
Posted by: TC Dan, Mpls
A quick Mpls review, since I won't get to it tomorrow.
Great show!!!6th Dan show for me, and probably the best, or tied with Milwaukee Y2K. Same setlist as last night, but slightly different order, with Black Friday coming a little later in the 2nd set. On to the highlights...
Wonderful to hear Aja in running order. Every song was terrific in every way, but notable were:
Aja - knockout! Great solos by Walter, Jon H, Carlock
Home at Last - Walter killed.
I Got the News - Jim Beard and Walter
Time Out of Mind/Bodhisattva - great energy, crowd really got into it
Great Walter solos on Hey 19 and Daddy Don't Live.
Babylon Sisters - always great to hear, and they did it justice with this version.
The typical latter part of the setlist with DTMA, Kid C, My Old School, always good energy crowd pleasers.
I must say overall I thought Don's vocals were about as good as I heard them, ever. He really seemed into it with both his keyboard playing and vocal effort. Band was hotso. I've liked aspects of many of their other touring bands, but this one is the most cohesive as a group.
Was there with my young son and he was completely in awe, as appropriate. His first concert-going experience, and I'm sure one he'll never forget. I know I won't. I hope they make Minneapolis a more regular stop in the future.
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 00:49:57 ET
Posted by: Hello, One and All
Bob's yer Uncle - thanks for the setlist...it's an amazing experience to see them live...nice momento you scored...how was the sound at that venue?
Date: Mon, November 09, 2009, 00:40:17 ET
Posted by: Bob's yer Uncle, Miineapolis
Just fot back from the Minneapolis Aja Night show...fantastic. I went to the Internet show in Chicago and that was great... "Dr Wu" how could it not be great. But hearing Aja played straight through was something very special. Set List same as usual except a little out of normal order:
Tennies Blues
Aja set
Time out of Mind
Bodi
Daddy...very poor vocal from Walt..guy in front of me didn't understand why Don wasn't singing.
Bab Sisters
Hey 19
Black Fri
Show biz
Dirty Work
Intros
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid C
encore - Reelin'
Outro - Last Tang.
A few thoughts ...Don flubbed two early lines on Deacon Blues which bothered me for a while since I had been waiting to hear that live for the first of my 5 times I've seen them since '96. Otherwise he sounded better than in Chicago. Crowd was a little "Minnesota Nice" as we like to say. No standing O's until the end of Aja...when Don stood up and almost making the crowd get up.
Crowd was good and the place was full, but the band may have been used to a little more feedback and I think it showed in Don's face at times...he said "Do you want to hear just one more" and the crowd didn't go nuts and he kind of went ok under his breath in an exasperated tone and started Kid C.
As we left I was able to get a set list that was sitting on the soundboard...I asked they they were happy to give it to me ...too bad I couldn't get it autographed by the boys...maybe next trip. Now to sleep.
Date: Sun, November 08, 2009, 20:47:56 ET
Posted by: DandomDotCom,
DandomDotCom Tweets of the set list from last night’s show in NW Indiana:
====
Tonight, from the Star Paza Theatre, just south of the steely mills of Gary, Indiana,
It's Aja in its entirety with select favorites.
• Here we go... 1 day ago
• http://yfrog.com/j374896115j 1 day ago
• Very suburban. Like a mall http://yfrog.com/16q40tj 1 day ago
• http://yfrog.com/3tfmktj 1 day ago
• Here's the thing: cell service is OK in the lot--not so good inside. So I'll bet they open with Teeny's Blues & then the "Aja" album. ;-) 1 day ago
• So-so signal in here. Sam Uahel Trio takes the stage. about 23 hours ago
• Make that "Yahel", of course. http://yfrog.com/0nr8sj about 23 hours ago
• The place is like a casino without the gambling. Sounds crazy but everyone agrees. http://yfrog.com/12451nj about 23 hours ago
• Very small & intimate. We had a nice Danfan meetup with about 9 or 10 of us including Kid Clean, earthbound, ben, Jim, mark, al and others. about 23 hours ago
• Stevie Ray Vaughn to Alice Cooper to babara Mandrell have played here http://yfrog.com/1go62j about 22 hours ago
• When you get off at the US 30 exit from I-65, there's a huge Jumbotron welcoming you to Merrillville --- about 22 hours ago
• -- and they announce Steely Dan playing tonite right the same screen! Of course, I expected to be welcomed with sausage & beer. about 22 hours ago
• Teenie's Blues about 22 hours ago
• Or is it Teemies? about 22 hours ago
• Pugh not here. about 22 hours ago
• Standing O. Black cow. All the girls have big wigs. Partial standing O. Aja. about 22 hours ago
• The crowd is very liquored up & security is virtually non-existent. Wild standing O. after Aja. Dcon Blues. Flip LP. Peg. Standing O. about 22 hours ago
• Home@Last. Gr8 Waltr B solo w/applause. Standing O. IGotDNewz. Partial standing O. Josie. Joe from Indiana is standing & dancing crazy. about 21 hours ago
• Gr8 crowd! Wild standing O after Josie. Audience won't sit as Df intros next song and DF says everyone dance. Black Friday. about 21 hours ago
• TimeOutOMind. Staning O. Bodhisattva. Standing O. Crowd dancing & wild. Daddy don't live in that NYC. Crowd standing and dancing. about 21 hours ago
• The crowd eventually did sit. Next: Piano solo by Jim B. into Bab Sis. Standby O. Hey19. about 21 hours ago
• Mark Patterson on trombone. Great Walter Becker story on H19. ShowBizKids. Great show rivalling only chgo Aja show for me (out of 7 sofar) about 21 hours ago
• Dirty Work. Itchin in my heart. Band intros. Standing O. Don't take Me Alive. Standing O. My Old School audience standing & dancing. about 20 hours ago
• Here I am: http://bit.ly/3BbZEo about 20 hours ago
• Kid C. Band leaves stage. Back for encore. Reelin 72. Last tango. The End. about 20 hours ago
• 11:00 pm on the dot. about 20 hours ago
Date: Sun, November 08, 2009, 15:07:32 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks for the reports and
ticker-tape feed. Sounds
like a hot time on the Ol'
South, South Side last night
with plenty of beers sans
the sausage.
Too bad I cannot say the
same for my Bears this
morning.....Ugggg.
Really suprised to hear
JP was out of the line up
for a show so close to home
for him. But then again
you guys got to hear the
great MP instead. So
much for any set "surprises"
for Leg 2 of Leg 2, I
guess.
Date: Sun, November 08, 2009, 13:34:59 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @home
TC - time for last nights show was 8 pm. Yahel started right at 8, played for 30 minutes, the Dan started at 8:50.
KC
Date: Sun, November 08, 2009, 11:14:32 ET
Posted by: BTW, Merrillville = suburban Chicago
TC Dan, last night's show was in the Chicago suburbs, not Indianapolis. 20 miles from the Chicago city limits and 150 miles from Indy. But you are right, we South Siders really know how to get drunk on our ass and have a great time. So much for the north siders.
Date: Sun, November 08, 2009, 09:17:25 ET
Posted by: TC Dan, Mpls
For those Indy show-goers, or those who have been recently to see our heroes - what time does Yahel trio go on, and for how long, and what time does main event start?? For reasons too involved, I need to time it tonight so that I get there when main event starts. I'm thinking 7:30 show, I should arrive around 8?
Thanks for any insights. I'm beyond psyched for tonight!!!
Date: Sun, November 08, 2009, 03:19:53 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, Home@last
W O W ! ! !
Those Hoosiers are flippin' nuts! Great crowd, better than Chicago Aug. '08 crowd, which was damn good.
No camera signs everywhere and I'd swear everyone had a camera and was not shy about using them, myself included. (can anyone suggest a good photo hosting site so I can put them up for all to see?)
Hoops' notes are pretty much spot on. I hadn't heard about Carolyn putting the needle on the lp at the start of the show and flipping at the appropriate time......awesome, that that was great. She, by the way looked, well, to borrow from Willy Wonka, Scrumdillyumptios. Wayne's a lucky man.
Great time time, good friends, awesome show....two more in Milwaukee!!!
KC
Date: Sat, November 07, 2009, 21:36:20 ET
Posted by: Steelymark, Star plaza
Great to meet hoops and all. Look forward to a great show.
Date: Sat, November 07, 2009, 21:00:39 ET
Posted by: *, *
*
Date: Sat, November 07, 2009, 20:58:52 ET
Posted by: Salmon Rushdie, Proud to be a hippy from Moussey Creek Forest Knolls, CA
http://www.candyboots.com/wwcards/salmonmousse.html
No I don't want to meet up with any fans or fins or shark teeth before the show.
Date: Sat, November 07, 2009, 14:59:50 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Steely Shodan, comical? Boy is that an understatement! That is one of the funniest things I've ever seen! It's hysterical watching that Japanese singer trying to impersonate Fagen's every move. And I mean EVERY move! Drop dead funny!
Date: Sat, November 07, 2009, 09:49:05 ET
Posted by: Dan, Covers
Look for Steely Shodan on youtube. They are a Japanese cover band who are both very good and inadvertently comical (I saw you in Ludies, you were velly high)
Date: Sat, November 07, 2009, 07:55:31 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @home
I saw Aja Vu a couple of summers ago, they were actually pretty good. The singer sounds nothing like Fagen though. Tough to do that.
KC
Date: Sat, November 07, 2009, 00:46:30 ET
Posted by: On Patrol, Mtl
Re:Steely Dan tribute bands, there's agroup in Montreal called Babylon Sister.Full replica band, 13 people.4 horns,2 keyboards,2 guitars,bass,drums,3female vocalists.All fairly competent musicians.
Also on U Toob.
Date: Sat, November 07, 2009, 00:46:14 ET
Posted by: On Patrol, Mtl
Re:Steely Dan tribute bands, there's agroup in Montreal called Babylon Sister.Full replica band, 13 people.4 horns,2 keyboards,2 guitars,bass,drums,3female vocalists.All fairly competent musicians.
Also on U Toob.
Date: Fri, November 06, 2009, 23:00:53 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Hookers, Bill. There are always hookers.
Dr. Fagen and my daughter have perfect pitch.
Date: Fri, November 06, 2009, 16:50:11 ET
Posted by: kip, nyc
Feel free to disagree with me, didn't mean for my post to come off as a put down, just an alternative viewpoint. :)
Date: Fri, November 06, 2009, 16:44:17 ET
Posted by: kip, nyc
Hi all, occasional lurker here. Just wanted to weigh in on the "rock guitarist" subject. There are styles of playing that are appropriate and inappropriate for SD. Would you tell Donald he should scream like Axl Rose?? Putting down first-rate players capable of playing anything shows a lack of understanding of the music. Save your money and go see Bon Jovi.
Date: Fri, November 06, 2009, 14:12:05 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, SD on the brain
Never thought I would do this, but I'm going to go and see a SD tribute band tomorrow at the Little Fox Theater in Redwood City, CA.
http://www.foxdream.com/
They're called Aja Vu and I have heard they are not that bad.
http://www.ajavu.com/
They have some stuff on youtube. Hope to check it out before the live show.
I have heard of Steely Damned but are there other good SD tribute bands?
Date: Fri, November 06, 2009, 13:03:58 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Somehow don't think Donald could do the Simmons tongue thing (friend of mine is bassist in UK's leading Kiss tribute and he can do it).
As for a 'rock' guitarist in the current Dan line-up - well, I grumbled a while back at Herington's lack of stage charisma, but I think his 'jack-of-all-trade-ism' fits the bill right now, though I'd love to see (or hear) a Skunk guest appearance sometime in this tour marathon.
Two Against Nature - 6/8 I'd say, though I've spent about 20 years arguing with another drummer that the start of ELP's Tarkus is in 10/8, and it always seems to be a moot point rather than a winnable argument.
Raj - we speak the 'Queen's English' over here now - pretty similar, but we just pitch it up a bit.
Date: Fri, November 06, 2009, 12:29:25 ET
Posted by: A flat, X
Only in the 2nd set of the 2nd leg of the 2nd leg shall the band mix it up. Shall they though??
Date: Fri, November 06, 2009, 04:11:35 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Pezzo do merda.
Entrance us then with your scintillating command of things Steely Dan couched in your best King's English...ah yes, a little more daunting than carping anonymously at the Rajah, eh Binky?
Good day to you.
Date: Thurs, November 05, 2009, 17:56:51 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Stout lad, now, let's make it mellow.
Date: Thurs, November 05, 2009, 17:38:52 ET
Posted by: Archie Bell, wtih the Drells
Oh, I've got it tightened up, sir, don't you worry about that.
Date: Thurs, November 05, 2009, 17:09:56 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
oh, but upon reflection you did include yourself in the arrogant pool, so, ok, receive the Magnificent Rajah's pass.
It's not arrogance, it's simply opinion.
Date: Thurs, November 05, 2009, 17:03:06 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Dear poster, if you knew anything about music, and I seriously doubt that you do after that outburst, you would know that time signatures lie in the ear of the beholder. Mr. Carlock tells us as much in his response to the question of the 2vN beat.
The real arrogance is in your comment. Please check yourself and tighten up if you want to play here.
Date: Thurs, November 05, 2009, 15:33:59 ET
Posted by: LvBeethoven, Munchen
Yes, even in the face of a band member making a statement about the 2vN time signature, denizens of the Blue know better. What an arrogant lot we are.
Date: Thurs, November 05, 2009, 14:45:28 ET
Posted by: B sharp, G
The 2nd leg of the 2nd leg is when bands really mix it up, right?
Date: Thurs, November 05, 2009, 11:30:26 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Keith certainly knows what he's laying down on the drumtrack 2vN. But mix in those handclaps, the timbales and a percussionist and you begin to hear an array of possible time signatures. That's if you step back and take in the whole aural canvas.
2vN live has been somewhat disappointing because of the simplification of the rhythm track. On record it has many more facets.
Date: Thurs, November 05, 2009, 09:41:29 ET
Posted by: Geoff, office
Sorry I meant wandering
Date: Thurs, November 05, 2009, 09:40:26 ET
Posted by: Geoff, Dallas Guitar Center
I got lost wondering around my local the other day, and ended up in the drums dept. Keith Carlock's DVD "The Big Picture" was playing so I had to buy one. when I got home I put it on and didn't leave my seat until the first disc was over. The next night I did the same thing with disc 2. The whole thing is is a real treat for any musician, at any level, not just advanced level drummers.
Anyway there was one part in there that reminded me of one of the most pathetic debates in blue book history, the one about the "Two Against Nature" time signature. Remember that? 3/4 vs. 6/8 vs. 6/4? At the begining of that chapter in the video, keith says someting like "it's in 3/4 or 6/8 I suppose depending how you count it" Sweet! perfect balance between great respect for theory and not be a technical asshole. It's a really interesting part of the DVD for SD fans, he talks about discussions he had with Walter about the drum parts, and the sequences he was given to work from.
Date: Wed, November 04, 2009, 15:02:44 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Yeah D&W playing "anything"
the fan's yell out is about
as likely as them playing
"Bad Sneakers" in Phoenix.
Here's an idea that's been
brought up before. Like
Elvis Costello did in the
late 80's(what a cool Chicago
run that was!) put everything
they are WILLING to do and
put them on a giant wheel -
and spin away. If you get a
dupe, you spin again. The
band already knows "Jeri" so
that takes care of the
background music while the
wheel spins.
Date: Wed, November 04, 2009, 12:57:25 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @work
Bit the bullet and picked up a ticket for Saturday in Merrillville, works out to be about 10th row dead nuts center!!!
See you there!
KC
Date: Wed, November 04, 2009, 10:00:03 ET
Posted by: Donavin ,
Steely Doc: That's the way SD should have been doing the request shows all along. Instead of conning the fans into thinking how they went about their request night was legit.
Date: Wed, November 04, 2009, 08:15:37 ET
Posted by: Green, River/Earrings/Flower Street
I'd do a show like that too if I only needed to remember three chords.
Sincerely,
DF
Date: Wed, November 04, 2009, 07:08:45 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
talk about a request night!
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118010812.html?categoryId=16&cs=1&nid=2248
Date: Tues, November 03, 2009, 17:28:37 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, Ohio
Bravo NYB/ Three lawyers in the family and that has always been the best advice; keep your mouth shut/yes Sir no Sir I would like my Lawyer present. Dont give the bastards nothing to use against you. The next thing you know they will accuse you of having perfect pitch or stealing a song off a rude prima donna.
Date: Tues, November 03, 2009, 16:16:05 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, Ohio
I think what Donald said once in referance to synths was he felt they were always slightly out of tune and if they held a contest for instruments in tune or not he felt sure he could win it. Even as a musician I am not sure if [Perfect Pitch] is Audial or Vocal' big Diff in my opinion. Just cause you can hear it in your head dont mean you can reach it. That being said I think Don does a great job of recording and playing live/ To tell the truth the average person cant tell if a G string on a guitar is a half step off or not but the musicians will nail you on it every time. Jimi due to techno at the time had a hell of a time keeping his axe in tune and compensated by squeezing the differant notes one way or the other; WoW!!!
Date: Tues, November 03, 2009, 16:12:53 ET
Posted by: Al Suarez, Tri-Valley SF East bay
My take on the asshole remark is this:
Yes, the audience member was stupid. Yes, he was out of line. I wish they had kicked him out of the Masonic.
But Donald, and I love this guy, shouldn¡¦t have acknowledge him. It was more distracting to hear him yell out asshole than the asshole that yelled out Freebrid. Thats my humble opinion. I¡¦m not expecting any of you to agree with me and thats OK. Thanks for letting me post. Forgive me if I'm beating a dead horse.
Wishing all you SD fans well. ļ
Date: Tues, November 03, 2009, 15:42:41 ET
Posted by: Janie Runaway, NY
Fagenism,
Joni and Steely Dan have always been my side-by-side absolute favorites but, in the past few years, SD has taken the lead!!
Date: Tues, November 03, 2009, 14:02:58 ET
Posted by: Evidence, U
http://www.sonosphere.com/_/Doug/Archives/2008/10/GauchoJarrett.m4a
Date: Tues, November 03, 2009, 13:09:38 ET
Posted by: anymanleft, rio
In response to fagenism's guestions:
1-I'm not sure if DF has perfect pitch, but I would highly doubt it. It's very rare.
2- As far as Joni Mitchell, I've been a fan of her as long as I have been SD. IMO, her music is just as essential to the history of popular music in the past 50 years as SD's is. She has influenced countless other musicians and continues to be a force in the music scene, although ahe has gone sour on the industry and keeps a low profile anymore. Hejira is probably my all-time favorite from her, but from a personal standpoint after seeing the Shadow and Light concert live, I put that right up there next to it. She also has a cd that was songs of hers that were picked by her friends, including one by none other than DF.Enjoy!
Date: Tues, November 03, 2009, 12:03:58 ET
Posted by: Hmmmm,
Never thought I'd agree with NYB. First time I have listened to the contentious Jarrett track and whaddya know....our dynamic duo took a DNA strand from that random, directionless blancmange ( consciously or otherwise - it don't matter ) and crafted a powerful piece of harmonic and melodic delight - plus super cool lyrics - several orders of magnitude beyond poor old Keith's game. They even tightened up the floppy groove for him. He shoulda payed THEM.
Date: Tues, November 03, 2009, 09:16:44 ET
Posted by: NYB, High Plains Drifter
ANYONE who thinks this song sounds anything more than VAGUELY like "Gaucho" needs to have their head examined and their Jazz records taken away...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXpPlBFGG_Q
They paid this clown A MILLION DOLLARS for this back in 1980???
GODDAMIT YOU TWO IDIOTS GET OUT THERE AND GET OUR MONEY BACK WITH INTEREST!!!
Date: Tues, November 03, 2009, 05:45:07 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -
The Dean and Dr. Wu:
Thank you so much for your excellent replies on the mainstream success (or lack thereof) of our Maestros.
Two short questions for everybody:
(1) I have read in various interviews that Donald is well-known for having an amazing sense of pitch. Does anyone know if he also has perfect pitch?
(2) For some reason it was not until recently I gave Joni Mitchell a chance, after my brother handed me the Hejira album. I have now listened to it quite thoroughly, and have moved on to The Hissing Of Summer Lawns. I am beginning to realize this might very well turn into a very serious love affair; any fellow Dan fans with me on this one?
Date: Tues, November 03, 2009, 01:26:16 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
klaus atr: The crux of the biscuit is that teardrop.
Bearing in mind that THIS website refers to a particular couple of Bard College students as the second coming of Topcat and Derek Flint:
cuatro): Where can a body (with a clear conscience) hear these Actual (or facsimiles thereof) NYB Guitar Tracks that I've heard so butch about?
b): Now B&F and Bard would have come by this honestly as at the time, back in the day, the students were under the tutelage of some guy named, Buzz.
1.): Heh. Heh, heh. You said Skidmore
Date: Mon, November 02, 2009, 19:56:41 ET
Posted by: Lurlker Ray, Malibu
That would be "Multi-Grammy Winning,
Multi-Platinum selling, Wealthy Slackers"
to you Mr Bill.
Weren't you the same douche that
posted some MP3 of you trying to
play along with a Fagen boot?
My God, what a loser. Hey Rupert,
your mom's calling.
Date: Mon, November 02, 2009, 18:22:07 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy
I'm looking forward to Steely this Saturday! Not only will this be my 17th show, but it's my first in my Hoosier state. I was not quite cool and/or sinister enough to catch them at the Deer Creek Music Center (now Verizon Wireless MC) on their last visit in '93 or '94. Hopefully the Star Plaza's ready to boogie because I know I'll be!
Date: Mon, November 02, 2009, 17:22:01 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Do not understand what the hell you said Reuben but am thankful for the post. I am now considering buying my buddy a tick and ponying up for gas. [ dont drive that far' anxiety probs] The Mrs is okay w/that. Maybe I will call Don and Walt and see if they send the limo. If all else fails I will tuck into bed w/ my I pod and Bose headphones and a six pack and duplicate the setlist and relive all the great shows I have seen and look foreward to 2010. Will buy my buddy Reuben a beer if I come across him'[ YOU TOO RAJ]. Peace out my Steely bros
Date: Mon, November 02, 2009, 16:59:02 ET
Posted by: D. Halman,
Joe Eshole -
You're much too dumb to, A) attend a quality college such as Bard, and, B) be associated with anyone nearly as intelligent as D. Fagen.
Date: Mon, November 02, 2009, 15:47:03 ET
Posted by: Joe Eshole, Phx
Donny and me went to college together. What was thought too be said was really "Hey, Joe Eshole!!". It was me too who asked him not to play Gaucho as it offends many South American peoples like myself. Now you no.
Date: Mon, November 02, 2009, 14:41:03 ET
Posted by: @tour, guy, semi-veteran SD show attendee
I can understand where you're coming from, but the only way to avoid these incidents whn it comes to a Steely Dan show is to
a) place yourself far away from any concert goer who even remotely looks like he/she has been to more than a few shows.
b) stay at home and enjoy the latest remasters in the controlled environment of your own home.
See you at the 2010 shows!
Date: Mon, November 02, 2009, 14:02:05 ET
Posted by: Snowbound, Denver
Having been a few days since the Denver show...
what a treat it was (is) to see SD live. Wow. What a great band. Keep touring. Keep playing the small venues. The small venues rock harder than the big venues I think. The sound is better, the vibe is better, etc... Keep up the gigs. See you next year, I hope.
Date: Mon, November 02, 2009, 13:55:53 ET
Posted by: tour, guy
I get annoyed at concerts when "expert" fans provide narration for their less informed companions. I remember the thrill of hearing New Frontier live for the first time, only to have some dork behind me say "this is about a guy who takes his girlfriend into a fallout shelter..." STFU.
Date: Mon, November 02, 2009, 12:46:47 ET
Posted by: Geoff, Dallas
NYB - that's so right. I think Steely Dan 'fans' are among the most ignorant of all; I often travel with my DF laptop bag and/or wearing 2000 tour polo, and it triggers a lot of conversations. Sometimes I meet some really cool people like Louis at DAL who went to school with Ricky Lawson. At the other end there's the "Steely Dan! he's awesome" type. Somewhere in the middle is the self-confessed 'huge fan' who will lecture you about where the name came from etc., but don't even know that SD have been touring almost constantly for the last 16 years or so, and have never heard of 2VN or EMG let alone the recent solo stuff.
When I realised what a web browser was, my first search was "Steely Dan". I'm sure the same applies to a lot of you other folks.
Date: Mon, November 02, 2009, 12:13:00 ET
Posted by: Steveland,
Photo of this venue for this Saturday's show:
http://www.chwcms.com/rad/images/hotels/MERRILLV/star.jpg
Date: Mon, November 02, 2009, 09:43:50 ET
Posted by: angel, LA
I am so with Lurker Ray on this. Gaucho night was absolutely the BEST of the 4 nights in LA. The audience loved it. I was shocked when they dropped it.
Date: Sun, November 01, 2009, 21:25:45 ET
Posted by: bikemann, nj
Ray you make a lot of sense,thanks. Little Caesar, you are way cool!!!! Afterthought, What the fuck happened to Here at the Western WORLD?
Date: Sun, November 01, 2009, 20:23:12 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray , Malibu - Hot & Sunny
bikemann - Personally I think
they jumped to conclusions and
made a bad decision dropping
"Gaucho" night for Leg 2.
From what I understand it wasn't
selling well in some markets this
summer.
But these were ALL weekday shows!
They didn't give it a chance.
In LA it was the only time it fell
on a Saturday and was EASILY the
best of 4 LA nights.
Unlike "Scam" the albums running
order really lends itself to a live
show IMO. The running order really
can jump start the party as it
proved in LA.
I'd easily go to another "Gaucho" night
if given the chance. I mean, who wouldn't
want to hear Don do "Gaucho", "My Rival"
and "Third World Man". I'm telling ya,
it would have smoked in San Fran last
weekend.
Date: Sun, November 01, 2009, 19:41:51 ET
Posted by: bikemann, nj
Anyone with info on why Gaucho nights were dropped? Just curious
Date: Sun, November 01, 2009, 19:32:06 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
Hey Here: Hear, hear. Thanks for that.
Date: Sun, November 01, 2009, 17:05:00 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
klaus and the roost her: while you've undoubtably done the right thing by using ortho, para, and metaphysics to attempt to avoid a potential felony according to the immutable laws of the universe, it behooves a body to keep in mind that there is a reason that they call it "Club Aluminum."
If reason doesn't work, turn your back on her, quickly jerk a hair or two out of your nose, spin back around, puppydog look her in those beautiful blue eyes, and as that single tear rolls down your cheek, tell her you're sure she knows best, but it's hurtin' your heart.
When you get up off the floor, tell her that YOU have seen the cold light of reason, and you'll be able to explain that mysterious 12 hour absence in the middle of November.
Rajah: is this a fair restatement of your thoughts?
Date: Sun, November 01, 2009, 15:47:57 ET
Posted by: angel,
Hey Denise: Your Hubby sounds so much like mine. He doesn't "get" it like we do, but he walks out of the concert saying he enjoyed the show. I will take that. :-)
Date: Sun, November 01, 2009, 13:59:09 ET
Posted by: Here, it is
The opening music in 2007 at Hammersmith and elsewhere was "Jeri" which later was the basis for the theme to the American Game Show, "The Price Is Right".
Date: Sun, November 01, 2009, 13:07:17 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Ironically, that was the Raspberries LAST hit record of any type...but it was a nice song! Their own Monkey in Your Soul
Date: Sun, November 01, 2009, 10:10:56 ET
Posted by: Cold and Windy, Home.
The Raspberries had a song suggestively called "Hit Record." Likewise, SD thought Razor Boy was a good title for a deep cut.
Billy: Dude, those aren't Walter and Donald NOW...some kind of Zombies, while their respective Estates rake in the Last Tours before the Apocalypse.
Date: Sun, November 01, 2009, 09:36:34 ET
Posted by: NYB,
I'll tell you how much the average concertgoer knows about Steely Dan... Replace Donald and Walter with an unknown singer/pianist and guitar player and most people at the show wouldn't know the difference. So long as the singer kind of sounds like Donald Fagen the fans will leave the show talking about how great it was.
Go ahead, test it out, you'll see I'm right.
Date: Sun, November 01, 2009, 12:37:38 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
So I'm listening to a 2007 performance at the Hammersmith Apollo and don't recognize the jazz intro. Anyone Name That Tune?
Lots of other good stuff here, inc. Chain Lighting and 2AN.
Jazz outro is Lee Morgan's "Carolyn," which I don't recall from any other recent tours. Tasty!
Date: Sun, November 01, 2009, 10:50:19 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Klaus, I can't speak for anyone else but for me seeing Steely Dan play live fulfills an emotional need. The musicianship is impeccable, yes certainly that's true; the compositions, home-grown and honed bespeak of players with an historical perspective of 20th century American music. At a Steely Dan concert you're hearing bits and snatches of everyone from Jelly Roll Morton to Duke Ellington, Miles, Ennio Morricone, Burt Bacharach, heck, all the way back to Johann Sebastian Bach if you know your stuff. And they deliver it without histrionics, the epitome of cool in my book. And witnessing something that well done, with such attention to detail, with so much pride in their work, well, for me it gives out a sense of well being. So many things in our lives are hurried and sometimes slap dash, rush to work, to the store, fix stuff that's broken and these days even just making ends meet. But for two hours at a Steely Dan performance, everything stops and falls away, like when Klattu puts the pause button on the world in The Day the Earth Stood Still. You breathe, you have a respite from the banalities of life and you're left to ponder deeper things. Things like maybe how much you love the good things, your wife or loved one, children and parents and friends.
When I saw Steely Dan in Rome with a group of Italian friends and relatives one of them noticed how quiet I got before the show and he said to me, "you're very moved to see them aren't you?" Me, I said, nah, seen them dozens of times, no emotional upheaval going on here. But I was lying.
Date: Sun, November 01, 2009, 10:10:56 ET
Posted by: Cold and Windy, Home.
The Raspberries had a song suggestively called "Hit Record." Likewise, SD thought Razor Boy was a good title for a deep cut.
Date: Sat, October 31, 2009, 23:30:07 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, DC
One of my all time favorite "deep cuts":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpn2JKI3iXM
Date: Sat, October 31, 2009, 19:37:32 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Dude had some "Bad Sneakers": Emile Norman dies at 91, artist created mosaic window for Masonic Temple in San Francisco
"Well known artist Emile Norman has died at the age of ninety-five. While not, to my knowledge, a Freemason himself, he did create the famous four story window mural for the Masonic Memorial Temple in San Francisco back in the fifties. The method for creating the window is fascinating. The process, invented by Norman himself, is called “endo-mosaic” and involves suspending pieces of colored glass and other material between sheets of plastic to create a stained-glass type window. He also created the terrific raised relief sculpture that adorns an outer wall of the temple building."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/08/DDGDCFJEET1.DTL
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3645/3647752087_c40884aa23_o.jpg
http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-emile-norman27-2009sep27,0,4662372.story
"Judging from the various and pungent odors that started to waft over the audience as early as the second song straight through to the end of the last encore 135 minute later, I started to wonder if we were playing for a Glaucoma convention."
-Michael Leonhart San Francico Tour 2009
Date: Sat, October 31, 2009, 17:22:34 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
It's all about the seat.
Nice review of San Fran IR
Night at Crawdaddy:
http://www.crawdaddy.com/index.php/2009/10/28/steely-dan-at-nob-hill-masonic-auditorium-san-francisco/
Date: Sat, October 31, 2009, 14:41:07 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
To Denise in Hinktown/ The wife is a SD fan as far as living w/me for the last 15? years. We have seen them 8 or 9 times. I thank you for the advice but have to ask as a sportfan also. Does your Hubby get the Dan or can someone attend and just go thru the motions? I can understand going to see the Red Sox and not really giving two shits but I cant imagine seeing Don and Walt without the heart beating wildly. Thanx
Date: Sat, October 31, 2009, 14:31:26 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
SteelyDoc/ Well said my Steely friend' I will let you know if it works or not. Since I am a CNC guy I do understand the radius theory I can only hope I can explain it as well to the wife'I will show her your post and if anyone can expand the theory feel free and know that Klaus is thankful. If all else fails my bro in law is a lawyer but so is her brother and stepfather/ hell its hopeless' help Rajah!!
Date: Sat, October 31, 2009, 14:25:26 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
Klaus, reciprocity works for me...hubby attends Steely concerts and I go to tedious sporting events.
Date: Sat, October 31, 2009, 14:17:52 ET
Posted by: Denise, H
SDPR...good one, Doc.
Date: Sat, October 31, 2009, 13:36:20 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
Dear Klaus Spouse:
There is a thing known to Steely Dan fans as the SDPR...Steely Dan Performance Radius...each Radius is determined by each fan, based upon their desire and ability to attend a show. Said Radius can expand or (very rarely, if ever) contract, and there's pretty much nothing that non-Steely fans can do to decrease or eliminate the Radius.
Remember, Spouse of Klaus, those wedding vows that you and Klaus took oh so many loving years ago: 'for better or worse' ....though it may be difficult to understand Klaus's SD desires, there's no use in trying to stop it. Go to another show, you never know when it may be their last in das Klaus Radius... enjoy. You will never regret going...
Date: Sat, October 31, 2009, 11:33:15 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Will someone [Raj' Dean'] explain to my wife that it is of the utmost importance that we attend the upcoming Akron show? The woman just doesnt understand that just because I was in the front row Sep 5 It still is law that when the Dan is within a few hundred miles my attendance is required. My God the woman has a hard time understanding the basic laws of the universe.
Date: Sat, October 31, 2009, 01:56:17 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
All I can say about Nov. in Montreal, it's been awhile since we've seen the amount of snow they got in Denver.Maybe this global warming thing isn't so bad.It's still fall until Dec 21.Glass half full thinking I guess.
Date: Fri, October 30, 2009, 19:57:30 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks for the great report
and correct & timely set list
SB. Your description of the
cold weather brought it all
back home to me. Brrrrr.
Gotta say I don't miss it.
But I must say, if the band
thinks that is cold, they
ain't seen nuthin till they
hit Montreal late November!
Here's to some set list
surprises for the "2nd"
Leg of the second leg.
Date: Fri, October 30, 2009, 16:02:21 ET
Posted by: KzkzkZ, 34th & 7th
End of Leg One of Leg Two. Thanks to everyone for posting sets, thoughts, trivia, links etc. Thanks to Hoops for providing this forum. See ya in a week...
Date: Fri, October 30, 2009, 01:33:53 ET
Posted by: SNOWBOUND, Denver
Here's the set list from the Thursday night, Oct. 29, show at the Wells Fargo Theater Denver. I kept a list during the show... I think this is right. Same as Phoenix two nights earlier.
Aja...
Black Cow
Aja
Deacon Blues
Peg
Home at Last
I Got the News
Josie
Black Friday
Time Out of Mind
Bodhisattva
Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No More
Babylon Sisters
Hey, Nineteen
Showbiz Kids
Dirty Work
Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart (while Walter Becker intros the band - though I don't think *he* was ever introduced)
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Reeling in the Years (encore)
Date: Fri, October 30, 2009, 01:31:42 ET
Posted by: SNOWBOUND, Denver
Here's the set list from the THURSDAY night, Oct. 29, show at the Wells Fargo Theater Denver. I kept a list during the show... (I think I got it right.) Same as Phoenix two days earlier.
Aja...
Black Cow
Aja
Deacon Blues
Peg
Home at Last
I Got the News
Josie
Black Friday
Time Out of Mind
Bodhisattva
Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No More
Babylon Sisters
Hey, Nineteen
Showbiz Kids
Dirty Work
Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart (while Walter Becker intros the band - though I don't think *he* was ever introduced)
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Reeling in the Years (encore)
Date: Fri, October 30, 2009, 01:28:49 ET
Posted by: SNOWBOUND, Denver
Hey guys. sNoWbOuNd made it to the Denver show. I shuvelled snow this afternoon.... we got about 16 inches by mid day on the west side of town at the beginning of the foothills. And it snowed another 1/2 inch or more today and tonight. COLD, BREEZY. Hats, gloves, winter coat cold. Cold.
But I took the day off from work, just to be ready for this show. I was. My two concert buddies, however, live up north an hour / half... and due to the snow storm we had, they decided not to make the long slippery icey drive. One buddy actually lives up in the mountains, down a dirt road.. and he had 24 inches. No sense in making the long drive home early into the morning... when the weather is that bad here.
But I rocked. Went down town early. Sold the tickets. Easily.
The set list was the same as Phoenix set list just below... so I don't need to re write it here.
EPIC Aja Album.
I have seen two "album" concerts and they are a great way to entertain. Wow. I saw Roger Waters do Dark Side of the Moon in its entirity. That was great. This was as well great. Now, perhaps McCartney would do an album? Naahh... because he was 1/2 the Beatles so he'd have to do a solo album and I don't think he would do that.
Sound was great. I sat directly behind the light man, in dead center. Theater holds 5000 (Wells Fargo Denver) Wasn't full on the sides, didn't matter. People loved the show.
Backup Band leader - Sam Yahwel? was "rousted by an illegal drug search" by the police, but "turns out he's O.K." That according to Don, who said that mid set of SD.
The back up band was alright. A bit "college" on the passion meter... they need to dig a bit deeper. The bass player was non present. There, but uninspired. Drummer was a bit college. Again, bring the passion. Don't waste your time on the big stage. Yahwel... needs to learn how to talk to a crowd. Uninspired. Perhaps the cops got to him (them) before the show and took his wind away? Who knows, it was the first time I've heard them.
Steely Dan: AJA - the whole thing was great. Except I have one thing I will pick on. I am a drummer... and notice and understand the "feel" quite a bit. So, Keith Carlock was outstanding. Blew everyone including me away during his solos - on AJA really had the Gadd grove nailed. THANK YOU Keith. Great job.
Yet, on two songs, the opening Black Cow, and the last one Josie, he dragged a bit. Almost like the band was playing it safe at the start, and end. Don't take any prisoners. Go for it every song and DRIVE IT HOME WITH A BRIGHT GROOVE EVERYTIME. Don't play it safe.
Having said that... every other song was CRACK! The most outstanding version of Home At Last, with a couple twists into the bridge. Unbelieveable at this point. From AJA through I Got the News... the band was perfect, Carlock included.
The rest of the set list (same as Phoenix).... Bodhisattva blew everyone away. They blew through it with speed and precision... but it also had a swing. Excellent.
Every other song was great too. Except that again, My Old School dragged a bit from the original... which really means the band "gives away" the magic of that tune... which is the tempo, the feel. So, don't give anything back to the audience... grab them and GO. We'll hang on for the ride, don't worry about us... Get moving. (Like Bodhisattva).
Everyone was rockin. Classic songs. Dancing in the isles (I thanked the usher who let about 11 or more people dance in our isle.
Don and Walter noticed. They said we were a great crowd, and they meant it... because we were. They noted the COLD SNOWY weather we had to trapes out into tonight. Brrrrrrrrrr..... Ice on the windshield... heater going all the way home. I'm getting old. This was my 5th show (including one Fagen show.) Ticket prices are getting too expensive for many nowadays. So lower the prices.... otherwise, I've had my SD fix for a lifetime.
GREAT voice tonight. Actually surprised me. The best I've seen. Don was great. In the can during Show Biz Kids... a middle aged man (reminded very much of Buddy Hacket - with a mexican tint - very funny man at the urinal - telling everyone how great fagen sounded "He sounds just like he did way back when" (first show I assume impressed him. I laughed... hard... and said loudly "HE's the SAME guy. It's the same guy." He laughed hard back... and said something like..... "its the mescaline." I laughed. Can't rember the rest of the conversation... went back into the show to hear Dirty Work.
Yada Yada Yada. Great work guys. Keep working hard, keep it tight, keep it entertaining.
And thanks for not postponing the show due to weather. OUT.
Date: Thurs, October 29, 2009, 23:20:47 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
So I hail Big Brother who is supposed to be squiring the ultimate female to the big show tonight, so I can hear how AJA's going. He fingers back that the plane from Chicago was later than demanded, but that was the good news. His truck has fallen into a crevasse (I think that's what the Sherpa riding the Saint Bernard called it) on US Floe 70, and he has just finished changing the wheel where the tire had come off the rim which he noticed just before he used the come-along to winch the rig back onto the shoulder.
He's in remarkably good spirits as he'd only spent 4bills on tix, and he had his gloves full of cayenne.
It's 24 degrees but not much wind.
Date: Thurs, October 29, 2009, 22:12:55 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Mike: Yes, Letterman's horns were added. There's a good reason Sd doesn't that song on tour anymore...and they will be touring now continuously until the Mayan calendar sez stop.
This is a much better song from the recent the collections...underrated really...darn good bridge...and maybe even better live than in the studio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2InodJ6-tQ&feature=related
Date: Thurs, October 29, 2009, 19:14:58 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
I was at the Phoenix show and Bill fom Scottsdale setlist was spot on.
Date: Thurs, October 29, 2009, 17:58:13 ET
Posted by: Lurker Evening, Malibu
Smug entitlement?
You were the one who started
this whole whining about late,
tardy, incomplete, incorrect
West Coast Set Lists!
Even calling them all lazy
stoners! ;O)
What? Are your "sly winking"
emoticons better than mine.
9 degrees in Denver? Is that
correct?
Date: Thurs, October 29, 2009, 15:23:49 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
As Walter Becker once told me something like ten years ago, the Dandom Digest is the Fans' newsletter.
If you read it, you are also responsible for its content.
That said, it also has the biggest audience of any of the unofficial Danfan forums. This place runs a distant fourth of fifth by comparison. Here on the Blue, you never reach more than maybe five or six attendees from a given show...the Dandom Digest and most local Dandom lists reach many more.
As printed in most Dandom Digests, setlists corrections and additions are not only welcomed, but are also the responsibility of those who read. You don't have to pay for the Dandom Digest, but you have a responsibility as a reader to post and submit corrections as you become aware of them.
That said, Lurker Day, you should have submitted a correction to DigestATdandomDOTcom instead of bemoaning the errors here with an air of smug entitlement.
And special thanks to Richard P for taking time to share the Phoenix setlist.
Date: Thurs, October 29, 2009, 14:21:59 ET
Posted by: S. BAXTER, DENVER
Setting up for the concert tonight. Just saw the set list ...2nd Arrangement, Snowbound, Kings, Bad Sneakers. I sure hope everyone can make it through the snow.
Date: Thurs, October 29, 2009, 13:32:20 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
The Phoenix Set List in today's
Dandom Digest is incorrect.
Perhaps we need a fact checker
for Leg 2 hoops? ;O)
Thanks to Bill in Scottsdale
for posting the correct list
below.
It would be very sweet if they
worked up "Snowbound" for tonight's
show. After all, it really is
a "Steely Dan" song.
Date: Thurs, October 29, 2009, 11:40:24 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Video Game, Laggardsville, NJ
Who are those people in the videogame supposed to be while we hear Steely Dan music. It looks like Todd Rundgren or the guy from The Verve had a baby then put on some sunglasses. And what's the guy with the muscular frame and spiky blonde hair ? Justin Fuckin' Timberlake ?? Drummer looks like Doug Clifford from CCR.
Laugh it up. :)
Date: Thurs, October 29, 2009, 07:57:38 ET
Posted by: Rock, Band
My Old School for Rock Band to be released next week.
Here's what Bodhisattva looks like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VU005q5W8A
Date: Thurs, October 29, 2009, 01:52:14 ET
Posted by: boognish,
I hope the Dan doesn't get snowed out of D-town!!
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 20:29:11 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, 1-0 Phillies (top of 5)
Thanks Bill,
Some of us, myself included were having (correct)set-list withdrawal. Did they play Bad Sneakers?? Did they play Freebird?? The rest of you west-coasters all on that medicinal smoke??
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 19:28:29 ET
Posted by: Bill, Scottsdale, Az.
Here's the set list from the Tuesday night, Oct. 27, show at the Dodge Theatre in Phoenix. I kept a list during the show...
Aja...
Black Cow
Aja
Deacon Blues
Peg
Home at Last
I Got the News
Josie
Black Friday
Time Out of Mind
Bodhisattva
Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No More
Babylon Sisters
Hey, Nineteen
Showbiz Kids
Dirty Work
Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart (while Walter Becker intros the band - though I don't think *he* was ever introduced)
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Reeling in the Years (encore)
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 19:07:26 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Suedave, After seeing Ms.Russell open for the boys at the Montreal Jazz Festival last July, bought both of her cd's. They're great.
My personal fav is "Cat", with a great New Speedway Boogie.That song
was fabulous live. Either way you probably can't go wrong.Happy listening!
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 18:01:24 ET
Posted by: S. Baxter, Phoenix>Denver
Sam I am :
"Baxter-you neglected to mention the band banged out a rousing rendition of "Freebird" for the encore."
Sorry, I guess I missed the encore... I left after they played Your Gold Yeeth II
Oops ..Your Gold teeth II
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 18:00:06 ET
Posted by: S. Baxter, Phoenix> Denver
Sam I am :
"Baxter-you neglected to mention the band banged out a rousing rendition of "Freebird" for the encore."
Sorry, I guess I missed the encore... I left after they played Your Gold Yeeth II
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 17:52:12 ET
Posted by: A Man With A Grin, on the screen
Yeah, what are all you west coasters smokin' who are taking down the set lists? Must be bad weed.
And Hoopster, I signed up for that Twitter thing but no set lists since Chicago. Is it broke? I've pretty much given up stopping by expecting to see the set list above on show night. You're slacking big time.
That's the way it is.
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 16:58:06 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Should of been in San Fran Lonnie!
What the hell is with ALL of the
incorrect set lists lately???
Jesus.
Phoenix 10/27/2009 submitted by R Petrenka
Teenie's Blues
All of Aja
Black Friday
Daddy Don't Live
Bodhisattva
Bad Sneakers???????
Show Biz Kids
Hey 19
Babylon Sisters
Love is Like an Itchin' In My Heart
Don't take Me Alive
Dirty Work
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Orig. Reelin'
Last Tango
Could someone please let us know
what is correct?
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 16:16:42 ET
Posted by: Lonnie THE Kingpin, Dodge Theatre
Hello one and all ~
The reviewer Craig Outhier is a joke. Disregard him.
No Bad Sneakers. That is a vicious rumour, but Lurker Ray where were you?
Mr. Herington was great as usual -- as was the rest of the band. The sound was wonderful. The ladies were all dressed in shades of purple. Perhaps in honor of the PHX Suns and the Dodge Theatre being close to the "purple palace"? Ms. Russell is just great. The trio is not the same without her (Temecula was not the same with Mizelle in for Russell). The lineup of Agee/Leonhart-Escoffery/Russell is awesome.
Herington was soooo good on a really tasty version of Black Friday. We talked about Black Friday after the show in the Greenroom with Jon. I do know that the band is not happy about the snow storm in Colo. -- the next show. Tons of snow there.
This band sounds great. Any set list is great. Enjoy it while they are still touring.
L T K
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 16:16:39 ET
Posted by: Lonnie THE Kingpin, Dodge Theatre
Hello one and all ~
The reviewer Craig Outhier is a joke. Disregard him.
No Bad Sneakers. That is a vicious rumour, but Lurker Ray where were you?
Mr. Herington was great as usual -- as was the rest of the band. The sound was wonderful. The ladies were all dressed in shades of purple. Perhaps in honor of the PHX Suns and the Dodge Theatre being close to the "purple palace"? Ms. Russell is just great. The trio is not the same without her (Temecula was not the same with Mizelle in for Russell). The lineup of Agee/Leonhart-Escoffery/Russell is awesome.
Herington was soooo good on a really tasty version of Black Friday. We talked about Black Friday after the show in the Greenroom with Jon. I do know that the band is not happy about the snow storm in Colo. -- the next show. Tons of snow there.
This band sounds great. Any set list is great. Enjoy it while they are still touring.
L T K
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 15:08:19 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, El Segundo, CA
Regarding the Masonic Hall shows, thanks to all who posted the reports for Sunday. Suedave, sorry we missed you; I think the only time we met was after the Wallingford show in 2007. If you were there Sunday, you probably had the same setup we had Saturday, which was mostly the band's speakers.
I didn't think of this while I was there Friday or Saturday, but possibly the forward location of the speakers contributed to the sound problems. The seat layout demands that the stage be set forward for visibility from the side sections. Furthermore, the band needs to be behind the main speakers to enable them to hear their monitors. In fact, they prefer to be farther back than they were at the Masonic Hall, if possible. For the Gibson shows Donald's Rhodes was set back perhaps 15 feet from the stage edge. When another fan asked Roger Rosenberg about this after the Pechanga show, Roger replied that they do this to hear themselves better. At the only other show I have seen at the Gibson in recent years (Return to Forever in June 2008), the frontmen (Chick Corea and Al DiMeola) were much closer to the edge, but this was necessary for the full house there. The Gibson has partially obstructed views for the outside sections. Steely Dan could work farther back because those sections were curtained off for this tour (and perhaps the entire summer; the curtains did not look very temporary). In any case, I can't recall seeing speakers mounted so far forward in the house as they were in SF. This probably caused the reported degradation at the wings, since most of the speakers were facing away from those seats.
This is really just the best guess of a non-expert; nothing more. Possibly some other readers have knowledge they would like to share.
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 14:37:36 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
"Dan "junkies" don't misspell Fagen."
Yeah this so-called "Dan Junkie"
Craig Outhier also is another
numb nut who thinks "Fine Columbian"
is "Coke".
I've heard a rumor that after all
of the bitching, they may have finally
hauled out "Bad Sneakers" last night.
Can anyone confirm this? Or just
another report from an over imbibed fan?
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 13:39:24 ET
Posted by: Phoenix, Review
Dan "junkies" don't misspell Fagen.
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/uponsun/2009/10/concert_review_steely_dan_at_d.php
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 13:19:55 ET
Posted by: Sam, I am
S. Baxter-you neglected to mention the band banged out a rousing rendition of "Freebird" for the encore.
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 09:48:16 ET
Posted by: SNOWBOUND, Denver
Ahhh.... yes.... perhaps it was March rather than Novemeber. But the Snow was WHITE. I remember the snow being white as snow.
(I make an annual trip up north in October, and I rushed back from that northern trip to make the concert. I can't recall why I would have made the trip in March. Oh well...
The snow was white. As it is today. White, heavy. KEEP ON TRUCKING tour bus. Make the Thursday show in Denver.
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 09:15:53 ET
Posted by: S Baxter, Phoenix
Great show last night - Don sang The Fez and guest David Palmer sang Dirty Work.
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 08:15:28 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
Fortunate enough to be in Phoenix this week and got to see my 9th SD show. The Dodge Theater was a nice venue and it appeared do be full although they did petition off both sides of the venue. I was able to get third row seats in the pit that I bought one hour before the show at half price from a scalper. Donald sounded great and was as animated as ever. So much so that he knocked his glasses off at one point. The band was smokin and my seats were directly in front of the ladies (yummy). The Phoenix crowd was very much into the show. An all a great evening.
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 07:00:03 ET
Posted by: I Was, There
Fagen's solo tour was in March '06, not October.
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 03:55:02 ET
Posted by: JoJo, Tucson
Snowbound, I sure hope they make it to Denver for ya. Saw them in Phoenix tonight and they were hot, hot, HOT. Did I mention they were hot? :-) So glad it was at Dodge Theater and not outside somewhere because the spore was definitely on the wind tonight. In fact I think the spore will reach Denver before the band does. If they make it, you won't have snow for long because this band is smoking! I'll leave the details to Lonnie THE Kingpin.
Good luck!
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 01:03:40 ET
Posted by: suedave, the hail looked like snow
Back from a super weekend in warm and sunny San Francisco - it felt so good. The afternoon before the show we ended up in Golden Gate park where a festival celebrating the 40th birthday of Woodstock was scheduled. http://www.woodstockstory.com/west-fest-performers.html Music, dancing, pot rice krispie treats, naked people, technicolor motor homes, psychics, frisbee golf, and glorious sunshine.
Had near center seats in the front of the balcony and the sound was missing midrange. The band was in fine form, Donald sounded great, and really, this year he looks like he's physically in great shape and seemed to be moving in a way that supports that observation. Herington, Beard, the horn section smoked. Walter didn't seem to take as many solos as in the other shows I've seen this year, or, that had something to do with the sound in the venue. I missed Dr. Wu and Green Earrings. The girls did a nice version of Dirty Work - Catherine Russell could have sang the rest of the night and I wouldn't have minded at all. Can anyone recommend which of her CD's I should start with?
The nazi security must have been in only a few sections of the theater - the free spirit nature of SF in the sun was evident everywhere including in the theater. I saw people dancing in the aisles, their seats both sitting and standing, in the back of the theater. No one freaked out. The vibe was good. Even the usher who came over after we lingered in our seats chatting asked us if we had a good time before kicking us out.
BTW, regarding the sound in the venue, LiveNation and the theater would like to jointly upgrade the music experience, including the sound system, but the neighbors would prefer to keep concerts out of the theater. It's really a great venue in a sweet part of town. Maybe the band bringing in their own equipment would have blown the windows off the neighbors places. In any case, I hope the theater succeeds and gets to continue playing shows.
Date: Wed, October 28, 2009, 00:27:53 ET
Posted by: SS, Vancouver
AGNG, I've had about two hours of daylight in San Francisco in the last ten years and they started at 4:30 Sunday afternoon on a BART train in from the airport. By any standard, it was gorgeous. It was golden and all too short.
And yes, the DF band had a different sound because of Wayne Krantz. I liked it a lot. Screw it - put all three of them out there some time.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 23:08:44 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @home
Bikemann - as fate would have it, I too was just listening to one of the shows from Fagen's tour. I agree there is a different vibe from that band. Wayne Krantz's guitar work was awesome and Freddy's bass was very clear in the mix really laying down a groove. I'm not saying that Krantz was better than Becker, just different and really fit well with Don's solo stuff. I've been a little disappointed with mix from '08 and this year, the bass seems to have gotten lost again.
Perhaps the next evolution in touring will be Walter & band for 30 minutes, Don & band for 45 minutes & Steely Dan for 45 minutes.
KC
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 22:19:14 ET
Posted by: bikemann, nj
Recentley listened to the Fagan band soundboard from his tour. First time in a while. I now think the band was a better sound then Steely Dan is now. Don't get me wrong,,,its ALL great but,something about the two guitars w/o Becker that made it higher energy. Plus a lot of great songs that they should be including in these shows.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 21:44:43 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
AGNG, sorry we missed each others
"movie". SNOWBOUND - That would be
"March" not October my friend.
Let's just hope Don does not get one
of his classic "colds" as we head into
November.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 21:22:48 ET
Posted by: SNOWBOUND, Denver
SNOWBOUND???
Aggghhh.... a few years back when Don was tourning solo, he came to Denver in October. But a snow storm hit the midwest, stranding the tour bus, so the show was postponed until the next night. Fortunately, I didn't have to work, and the show was one of the best I've ever seen. Tight. Tight. Tight. Did I mention how freekin tight it was? It was tight. Hot and tight. Just the way I like it.
So, jump forward to the present. Now. Steely Dan is scheduled for Denver Thursday night. Tickets in hand. WINTER STORM WARNING tomorrow into Thursday. Perhaps up to 20 inches.
You've got to make it this time Dan. If you push back the show this time, I will be working Friday night. So... PUSH those trucks through the snow. Keep on trucking. I don't want to hear SNOWBOUND this time around. Put those tire chains on, whatever, just make it for THURSDAY nights show.
Looking forward to it.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 21:16:51 ET
Posted by: almost gothic negative girl, monterey (where the wind is howling tonite)
L-Ray ~ Thanks so much for the great post.
"You just knew it was going to be a great night when our Trolley Car Conductor serenaded us with a soulful accapella version of “Black Cow” as we headed up Nob Hill. Get out of here! So outrageous!"
That is just insane! You know it really is true; the journey is the prize. I had a very interesting cab ride on Saturday night, when the doorman at the Huntington Hotel next to the Masonic was kind enough to get a cab for me after turning other people's requests down. Cabdriver turned me on to the Black Magic Voodoo Lounge which was just what I was looking for. But no one sang an SD song to me. That is freakin' cool.
The little City by the Bay has never looked better to me than it did on Saturday and Sunday. Maybe it was cleaner and brighter due to the recent torrential rains and the incredibly fine warm weather. As I was leaving town on Sunday afternoon, driving through the Presidio, I truly appreciated the beauty of the cypress and palm trees against the brilliant blue sky, the smattering of clouds, the deep blue of the Pacific set off by the hundreds of pure white sails on the bay and the always awesome Golden Gate Bridge. Sounds like we were almost in the same movie.
Al ~ You are a class act. Thank you for your posts.
To everyone who takes the time and energy to come here and post their thoughts after a show, thank you. You make the Blue a better place.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 19:40:34 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Please add Josie after Deacon!
Looking forward to tonights reports!
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 19:21:30 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Up On The Hill – From The Dude Ranch Above The Sea:
Steely Dan – Internet Request Night – San Francisco Masonic Auditorium
A Sunday night in San Francisco. I come to San Fran a lot, but I’m usually heading back to LA come Sunday night and have never been able to grab the amazing Sunday Lobster Special at Perry’s because it starts at 5PM. So that was reason alone to fly up this past Sunday morning. Oh, and of course, the last Steely Dan Internet Request Night (EVER?). Just a gorgeous hotter than normal late October SF fall afternoon spent on the sidewalk in front of Perry’s Embarcadero location with picture perfect views of the San Francisco Bay Bridge and the sailboats. As the sun was dropping into the sea, it was time to grab the California Avenue Cable Car up to Nob Hill.
You just knew it was going to be a great night when our Trolley Car Conductor serenaded us with a soulful accapella version of “Black Cow” as we headed up Nob Hill. Get out of here! So outrageous! Sh*t, I wish I had a recording of that. As our Conductor told us, this town is becoming way too “PC”. Apparently a lady called and complained about the California Lines “excessive bell” ringing and they were even asking us to sign petition at the venue because some “neighbors” didn’t like the concerts.
As we entered the Masonic, we were greeted by a beautiful multicolored stonework mural topped with the ever knowing watchful “Eye” of the Illuminati. Smack in the middle of the massive mural is what I like to referrer to as the “Green Man”. A silhouette of a man with what appears to be an “envelope” sitting over his nether region. Not sure what it means, but I’m not going to question the Masons.
Only other time I have seen Steely Dan in San Fran (adjacent) was at Shoreline. I love these shows in downtown areas. San Fran is truly a gem and I hope the band will consider adding it to their itinerary and PLEASE keep doing these more intimate shows away from the sheds!
Great enthusiastic crowd Sunday night. They wanted to explode, this hot mixed crowd of beautiful young and old people, and they let them dance off to the sides, but the Pinkertons shot down any chance of this show becoming a real party. It was fine to sit in your seat and smoke your lungs out, but don’t you dare enter the aisle and try and dance. The crowds for Leg 2 have been much younger versus the staid older crowds for Internet Request nights in LA & Chicago.
The show perhaps do to “three-in-a-row” fatigue was shorter than San Jose. Actually it was only as long as the Pechanga casino show! Don turned from “Conductor” to “Gripman” and grabbed the break and called an audible before KC, cutting a song (Pretzel Logic?). The crowds at least out West for Leg 2 have been much younger versus the staid older crowds for Internet Request nights in LA & Chicago. I was not there Friday & Sunday, so I don’t know if they replaced the sound system, but on the main floor where I was right in front of Don, the sound was terrific, dare I say “amazing”. Wasn’t there a post when Leg 2 was announced suggesting that people stay out of the balcony and the extreme sides of the Masonic?
Wicked Bibliothecary – Like Lutz, what were you smoking? ;O) Bad Sneakers? One could only wish! Sadly missing from ALL Internet Request Nights. Babylon Sisters after Aja? Donald forgot some of the lyrics to Deacon? Were we at the same show?? He sang, “Back to the wall” instead of “My”?? Quite simply one of the stellar takes of Deacon. Every bit as good as Shoreline in 2006 and San Jose. Maybe better. Don is singing this song just about every other night of Leg 2. He now owns the shit out of it. Walt W was a inventive as hell Sunday night.
Before starting Josie Don called, “Jim”. Very awesome Mancini-esque playing from Mr. Beard this evening. Even a clap-a-long. Jon simply shredded Peg. Torn & tattered! Walter’s guitar did go out for the whole beginning of Do It Again and they had to switch it out. So it was just Jon. Actually very interesting. And Babylon Sisters was every bit as good as the Pechanga take, just full of luster and polish.
So after being fortunate to catch 4 Internet Request Shows in 4 different cities, here’s how I rate them:
#1 – San Jose. Easily the best IR show of the tour. In fact, one of the best Steely Dan shows I have ever witnessed. Amazing “new” extended set list that included Pretzel Logic & Royal Scam. They even axed Dirty Work & Walter’s solo number! The crowd that night was one for the ages and it was a Wednesday night. Amazing. Chain Lightning in a bottle. One of those rare ones. And like Soboba, in the least likely of places – in an armory in San Jose and sans Larry Carlton. Who knew?!
#2 – Los Angeles. Though I thought the crowd was way too quite (and old?- it was a Tuesday), we easily got the most passionate, spot on take of Dr Wu of the tour from a healthy Donald with not a tentative flub to be heard. Plus Larry Carlton!
#3 – San Francisco. If they hadn’t shortened and stayed with the set list from San Jose and if security hadn’t quashed the dancing, this show could easily be sitting at Number 2. But then again there were trucks our front and they did start a half hour earlier, perhaps there was a curfew in all fairness to Donald. Maybe he got the high sign to cut it short. Another set of killer takes of “Any Major Dude” & “Rikki” (Very cool, “I Don’t Know” Sing-A-Long). Great amped-up and highly appreciative crowd and downstairs at the Masonic the setting was almost as intimate as the 1200 seat Pechanga.
#4 – Chicago. Chatty underwhelmed crowd and a tentative take of Dr. Wu. It didn’t help that security let some stalker come down and stand just feet from Donald while he was trying to sing it. Though this was the same security that jumped on anyone trying to stand at their seat and dance. As I predicted after watching the mass exodus during Dr Wu that night and due to fact that 95% of the crowds could care less, that’s it for Dr Wu and you will not hear it again. Sadly that revelation has come true.
So that’s it for me in 2009 - all my dime dancin' is through. I would have loved to have been able to see more “Gaucho” shows & “My Rival”! Hey I love “Royal Scam”. But let’s face it, the albums running order does not make for a great “live” running order. Starting a show with “KC” just doesn’t work IMO and leaving the stage just minutes later during “The Fez” just adds to the “huh?” factor.
Looking forward to 2010, but if they revert back to the “sheds” that will be a shame.
Here’s a complete and accurate set list:
Steely Dan Internet Request Night – San Francisco 10/25/2009
Teenie's Blues(band)Intro
Black Friday
Aja
Hey 19
Bodhisattva
FM
Any Major Dude
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Peg
Do It Again
Love Is an Itch – Band Intros
Babylon Sisters
Deacon Blues
Black Cow
Dirty Work
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Reelin' In the Years
Mo’ Gato
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 18:43:08 ET
Posted by: Al Suarez, Tri-Valley SF East Bey
Fellow SD fans,
I appreciate all of your reponses. Hey, is there such a thing as too much Cuervo Gold and fine Columbian? Perhaps it has affected my memory that combined with my age. :-) See you all next year.
Regards always,
Al
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 18:20:10 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, Back Home
"The FEZ was only part of the instumental medley years ago and now only with girl vocals.Fagen has not sung it ever."
Why do you think that is?
Does he just not like it? Did he knock someone up and the song brings back painful memories? Does he think it is some of their lesser work? He's bored of it?
I never understood why he won't sing that song. Now Dirty Work I understand. He did not sing the original and he my understanding is he never thought much of Dave Palmer. But The Fez! That's a great tune and classic Dan.
It deserves the sneering original voice.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 17:27:19 ET
Posted by: bikemann, nj
Agreed with last post, The FEZ was only part of the instumental medley years ago and now only with girl vocals.Fagen has not sung it ever.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 16:56:57 ET
Posted by: SS, Vancouver
Al, it's simple. No one can remember when SD has ever done The Fez with DF actually singing it. It hasn't been included on tour since they started touring again in 1993 other than as an instrumental or the way it's being done this year (girls singing it). Of course I could be wrong.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 16:47:14 ET
Posted by: Hey Al, lighten up
By volley, I meant as in "serve and volley" - a little back and forth like occurs here on the Blue. No attacks. No ill will intended.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 16:42:23 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Hey Raj/ I always defend you' isnt it something like the dreary arch/ of there soul? but what exactly turns them off? how they've grown like a thorn/ now we used to play when we were three how about a kiss for your old Steely Bro Raj? I am still a Raj Fan. Viva fans like Rajah!!
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 16:40:45 ET
Posted by: Al Suarez, Tri-Valley SF East Bay
Well good folks of Dandom, I'm not going to be able to give an exact date time show when Don sang The Fez. Those of you that are in doubt are more than welcome to do so. But to call my post a "volley" is a bit over the top. Definition of volley:
1. The simultaneous discharge of a number of missiles or firearms.
2. The missiles so discharged.
3. A burst or outpouring of many things at once or in quick succession: a volley of protests.
How about just a post on a forum, that you deem erroneous. I'm ok with that as I'm not a SD expert nor do I claim to be one. I’m just a guy that likes the music and enjoy the shows.
Thanks for letting me post my thoughts.
Regards,
Al
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 16:03:01 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
And you dear sir or madam, have a very puny and pitiful soul...
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 14:58:40 ET
Posted by: Bob's yer Uncle, Minneapolis
Have fun in Phoenix tonight boys...and girls.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 14:32:32 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
I'm so very appreciative of all your informed comments on the shows. I'm a long way from home but your various analyses make me feel close. Thank you.
At this point, I don't think they could give a bad show, sound problems, yes, road fatigue, certainly, but a small incendiary device could erupt onstage and this band would just keep on playing, like the Titanic string quartet, on and on...viva la Steely Dan and viva the loyal fan.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 13:41:19 ET
Posted by: Good luck, Al
I fear some of the sticklers here will want date and town before they'll buy your "heard it sung once" volley.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 12:50:58 ET
Posted by: SS, Vancouver
I though DF's energy and enthusiasm Sunday night was fine.
WB was chilled, but the playing was good.
The whole thing, sound excluded, was at the usual high standard. Not exceptional, mind you, but not mailed in either.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 12:13:57 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, Back from the masonic Auditorium
I think folks need to realize that there really was no effort to sell the $170 and $65 seat at the far ends of the Masonic. That is why the ushers moved those whole sections over to the more center sections.
If the effort to sell those seats would have been more evident, then I think they would have had a third and fourth bank of speakers aimed at those parts of the venue. It's not rocket science, the techs know how to do it.
Also, there were 5 other major concerts going on in SF that weekend, including the SF Jazz Festival (peeling off some SD fans) as well as the Bridge School benefit put on by Neil Young, featuring No Doubt, Sheryl Crow, Jimmy Buffet & the Coral Reefer Band and more. All that peeled of attendees.
I doubt a lot of the stops on this second leg will have half as much going on on the weekdays that SD placed their cities.
Can't wait until 2010!
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 11:43:07 ET
Posted by: Al Suarez, Tri-Valley SF East Bay
Dean and Bob's Your Uncle,
I did see him at least once perform The Fez where he sang. But your right, the other times, he played kayboards but did not sing. Good call, I stand corrected.
Regards,
Al
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 08:40:52 ET
Posted by: Bob's yer Uncle, Minneapolis
Al "say the past 4 years, every time I've seen them perform The Fez, Donald has sang"
When have they "Sang" The Fez in the last 4 years..never before this tour and always as an instumental.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 07:52:41 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Just a couple of comments and questions:
When has Donald sung The Fez in concert? To the best of my knowledge he has left it to the girls this entire tour. Previously I recall The Fez being played as part of an instrumental medley. So, Al, how many times have you seen Donald sing The Fez live? In what years did that happen? Thanks.
Also, SD has its own sound system, but sometimes has to (or chooses to) use the sound system of the venue. I believe in SF the questionable sound was due to the Masonic Theater's system, not SD's.
A friend of mine thought Don and Walt looked a little bit tired on Sunday night, too. But let's not forget that was the third consecutive night of performances and the 5th concert in 6 days. They usually make a point of avoiding that kind of stretch when possible. Since most accounts from this tour have noted the high energy and good spirits of Don and Walt, it is more likely they were tired due to short-term overexertion on a very long tour, than it is they have wearied of the road, in general.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 02:21:16 ET
Posted by: Al Suarez, Tri-Valley SF East Bay
NYB, well said. I'm not a musician nor on tour therefore, I can only imagine the rut they could have found themselves in, especially on a 2nd wind tour leg. You’re right they could just be running shy of enthusiasm. That said, I still enjoyed the show and I know what to do the next time they play at the SF Masonic. Sit center.
Just one final note on sound quality. Let’s not forget that for $100 plus, I would think that sound quality would be on par at least. There is no excuse for poor sound. I can understand a band that’s getting tired, but jeeze, at least have decent equipment, doesn’t have to be the very best. Keep in mind that Donald is known to be stickler when it comes to Hi-Fi sound. Recall the dbx equipment issue way back when in the 70’s i.e. Katie Lied? Blame it on LiveNation? Who knows.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 00:59:53 ET
Posted by: Provincial Reuben, Tall County AR
Ahh, I do love this place so.
Date: Tues, October 27, 2009, 00:07:18 ET
Posted by: almost gothic negative girl, monterey
Al, very nice reply. Thank you. Sounds like you have seen them enough to have a good handle on this particular show. It is always interesting to read other people's takes on a show that you witnessed yourself.
That's what makes the Blue so special. We can all come here and pour out our opinions of what we witnessed. Most of us aren't professional writers, so we just let it spill out. I like that outflow of true emotion alot.
I will definitely go see this band the next time they come around. Know you will, too ; )
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 23:45:01 ET
Posted by: almost gothic negative girl, monterey
Goochiman, what is there to rethink about goin back to this venue again? You have already cracked the code. The hard part is done! Buy the least expensive seat, and then go stand in the back and rock out. Choice center prime cut ; )
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 23:28:07 ET
Posted by: Al Suarez, Tri-Valley East Bay
Goth, I appreciate your thoughts on Saturday's show. I have to say I've seen them perform live perhaps a dozen times and so I based my opinion on my pervious experiences as well. The energy in the crowd was great, but I did not see that being reflected on Donald and Walter so much. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not calling the show a dud by any means.
In recent memory (say the past 4 years, every time I've seen them perform The Fez, Donald has sang. This is the first time I've seen that song performed where he did not. Like I said given that it is one of the tracks on the Album, I did expect them to play out the Royal Scam album thoroughly including The fez. Any other SD concert, it would have been no big deal. I'm sorry but it was noticeable me.
Despite the minor distractions, it was a great show. I'd pay $!50 to them again at the SF Masonic knowing what I know and in thanks to you sharing your experiences with me- us.
Regards
Al
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 23:27:21 ET
Posted by: Al Suarez, Tri-Valley East Bay
Goth, I appreciate your thoughts on Saturday's show. I have to say I've seen them perform live perhaps a dozen times and so I based my opinion on my pervious experiences as well. The energy in the crowd was great, but I did not see that being reflected on Donald and Walter so much. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not calling the show a dud by any means.
In recent memory (say the past 4 years, every time I've seen them perform The Fez, Donald has sang. This is the first time I've seen that song performed where he did not. Like I said given that it is one of the tracks on the Album, I did expect them to play out the Royal Scam album thoroughly including The fez. Any other SD concert, it would have been no big deal. I'm sorry but it was noticeable me.
Despite the minor distractions, it was a great show. I'd pay $!50 to them again at the SF Masonic knowing what I know and in thanks to you sharing your experiences with me- us.
Regards
Al
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 23:23:30 ET
Posted by: Goochiman, On location
Went to the Sunday Internet Request show and sat on the right balcony
and found the sound terrible. I couldn't hear DF vocals or electric piano and everything seemed muffled. At the start of "Do It Again"
I moved to the center SRO and it all came alive from there till the end. I'll think twice before going to another show at the Masonic.
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 22:49:04 ET
Posted by: almost gothic negative girl, monterey
Al, I feel for you. Really. My seat was off-center too, and when I first arrived, I walked over to the general area in the SRO above my seat in the balcony to listen to Sam Yahel's set, and I decided I wasn't gonna walk down and check out my second row seat, it was too far house left, and the sound seemed better as you got closer to the center of the room. From Gus's review, I learned that they weren't hassling people for standing back there. Later, while I was in the center at the back, several people came along to enjoy the show in that area and were saying to each other, see how much better it sounds here? Once they found the sound, they stayed. Which section were you in?
Donald and Walter always walk off during The Fez. I didn't feel like Donald was not with it. He seemed pretty connected to me. I've seen them probably 25 times, so that is my base of experience. As I mentioned in my San Jose review, it felt like several songs were rushed that night. In SF, I didn't get that feeling at all. In fact, one song seemed slowed down, can't remember, maybe Green Earrings?
So there you go--It is amazing the difference that placement and perspective and expectations make in show enjoyment. And how we all experience the same thing differently. C'est la vie!
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 21:59:09 ET
Posted by: Al Suarez, Tri-Valley East SF Bay
I was at the Saturday Oct 24th show in San Fran. My recollection of the asshole remark was that during the piano solo folks started yelling out requests. Donald eventually said ‘settle down’ then an audience member yelled out ‘…Free bird (I thought)…’, and then Donald yelled back “asshole”. I also heard Donald say ‘…as funny as a crutch…’ and then said something like ‘…you’re the guy that’s been following me all year…’ and then another ‘…asshole…’ It seemed like the band was in a rush to finish the show sooner than later to begin with and Donald didn’t seem in tune with the show either. For example, he disappeared along with Walter when they started The Fez. Just the three backup singers sang. Granted they did a great job. But considering that was one of the tracks on the Royal Scam album, I felt a bit disappointed. The band seemed a little fatigued too. Perhaps the night before they partied after the show and Donald was hung over the next day? The sound quality was poor. I sat in the balcony off center about 10 rows back and Donald’s and Walter’s voice mics sounded muffled and outright terrible. When Walter did his Cuervo Gold shtick, I could only understand about half of it. Walter also delivered it almost rambling it Vs telling of a story tone. But the sound quality wasn’t up to par hence my para-qoutes on the asshole incident.
The San Jose Internet request night (Oct 21 2009) was by far the best Steely Dan concert I’ve ever been to. The crowd was energized. Both Donald and Walter fed off that energy and it paid off big time. The ushers and security gave up trying to stop the aisle dancing. Towards the end of the show the whole ground level was a big giant dance floor! The cheering was loud, showing the band our appreciation. The loved it as us audience members did in return. Plus to add the sound system was awesome – high quality - and loud.
I’d love to hear from those that were at these concerts and share their experiences.
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 21:57:51 ET
Posted by: almost gothic negative girl, monterey
Lonnie, I have heard that the Dodge Theater is a wonderful venue, and I know that you and your crew will have a great time. Hope it's the best Dan show ever. Enjoy! Wish I could check it out.
From my vantage point, there was nothing weak about Saturday night at the Masonic in SF. I am so happy that I spent the dough and made the trip to see them again after seeing them in San Jose on Tuesday night. From the other reviews here, it sounds like everyone thought the show was pretty darn good.
So some dumbfuck yells out Freebird at the wrong time. And apparently there were some sound issues, but I have to say that up in the center of the SRO area in the balcony (which is only 12 rows deep and therefore not all that far away) they were hardly noticeable. I have been to several other SD shows where they had bigger issues w/sound, and multiple guitar tech visits to John and Walter, and with too much talking, too many drunken idiots, too many flashes in the audience, or with Donald's voice being less than jake, or with Donald blowing lyrics, etc. This was a solid show and a real good time. Nothing weak about it, at least for me, from my location.
As most of us have noticed by moving around at shows, there are sweet spots, and places you don't wanna be. At The SD show at Shoreline w/ Bonnie Raitt, I had an expensive seat which should have been great, yet the sound was bouncing around at times and making me feel very uncomfortable. Almost ruined it for me, although many people declared it a great show. I should have gone in search for the better sound, but alas, I slacked and the opportunity was missed. Still I had a good time and it was a good show, but changing location would have made it a lot better.
Loved the fact that security was almost non-existant at the Masonic, damn, I don't know if I ever even saw one! People were casually sparking in their seats, no problem man. Loved that the ushers did not hassle people who were just finding a cool space to have a good time without getting in anyone else's way. Loved the show, loved the performances, loved the space in the back of the room to groove. Loved watching Keith from above where you can really see him working it.
So by now I guess you can tell that I thought that the Saturday night show at the Masonic was excellent, not the show of the century, but a real keeper none the less. Some shows you leave going, meh, not sure if I am gonna spend the money next time they come around. For me, this was not one of those! Thanks for listening....
gothic girl
hah!
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 18:03:56 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, Back from the Masonic
Very happy camper today.
Thought all the shows were great, with Saturday's being the best crowd size-wise, Friday energy wise and Sunday personal wise as I took my 11 y/o daughter to the show. She a budding Dan fan like her pops.
The audio was much improved last night over the previous 2, with Friday's being the worst. I still have to say that $255 and $170 for seats in the lower sections was way to exhorbident, despite the economic reasons for that decision. If those would have been $125 and $99 respectively, the place would have been sold out and money wise, things would have been about the same. All those unsold seats mean no $$$$ in the boys pockets.
Loved the set lists, especially being able to finally here Rikki live. SF fans definitely loved KC and BCow with their San Francisco references.
Was really taken aback by the diversity of age groups at the 3 shows. I'm used to being among the youngest at past shows, but no way this time. The 3 hot young blondes dancing to Reelin at the foot of the stage could not have been older that 23-25.
I'm starting to think that Hoops has an in with the boys so if he can pass this along for the next tour:
1. Do not skip SF as a stop because of the venue and the unfull houses. If your willing to play anywhere in Alabama, then SF has to be a scheduled stop. Period.
2. Book a set of dates at The Fillmore. Capacity 2800-3000, general admission with no seats. Best place to see a band in SF and the acoustics are top notch. Besdies, the place has loads of history and SD defintely fits within the pantheon of greats that have played there.
3. Rikki, Do It, and Reelin must always be on the set list. The clear wather fans want them and they fill out the house when hard core fans do not.
4.
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 16:47:51 ET
Posted by: Lonnie THE Kingpin, The PHX
Hello one and all ~
While SF may have been weak, I can assure you that the crowd in the greater PHX metro area while get their groove on for the DAN. I am bringing my group of 6 and we will get it going on in the orch pit of the gorgeous Dodge Theatre. Last time WB was here he said he was "duly impressed" with the new theatre. What a night it shall be.
Love the Dan -- any setlist.
Lonnie (of '65)
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 12:14:19 ET
Posted by: Bob's yer Uncle, Minneapolis
Funny how the Internet Request nite votes were the same for the first leg shows and then 4 (very nice) song changes and pretty much the same set list for the last two. I like the new set list more overall, but I'll still take my Dr Wu in Chicago over the last two shows. Can't wait for the Minneapolis show.
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 09:52:48 ET
Posted by: Wicked Librarian, Pathetic Left Coast
My bad. I humbly stand corrected by SS. I admit I had a hard time w/my abbreviated notes last night when I got home. And despite my lack of alcohol, my perceptions, especially those that are hearing dependent, leave a great deal to be desired.
TWL
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 09:29:03 ET
Posted by: Steely Dan in San Jose, A
Video from San Jose
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/around-town/events/Steely_Dan_in_San_Jose_Bay_Area.html
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 09:22:48 ET
Posted by: Steely Dan Rocks South Bay, KGO
Picture of the picture that will go on the San Jose Civic Center's wall of fame.
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/entertainment&id=7074851&rss=rss-kgo-article-7074851
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 05:59:50 ET
Posted by: bikemann, nj
Well, Setlist is all great stuff indeed but,,,, Just another show.Nothing special for an internet request night especially the last one.Not even Wu! Sorry but Steely Dan never did PLAY THE WORKS.
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 03:16:12 ET
Posted by: SS, Oakland
Wicked Librarian has most of this covered.
Couple of set-list corrections.
It was Babylon Sisters instead of Bad Sneakers. Also, Hey 19 was played. It came right after Aja, near the beginning of the set.
SD was on stage at 8:28 and played for 2 hours, 3 minutes..including Teenies Blues and Last Tango in Paris.
The sound was just passable. It was disappointing to see a grand piano and Jim Beard sitting behind it...only to hear a tinny and thin sound coming from it.
Show energy was good. I haven't seen the band in two years, so what I noticed is that DF was singing really well and Jon Herington was playing most of the solos (and well).
WB did an extended Hey 19 wrap....where he considered what to drink - 'Bourbon ? Too red state. Vodka ? Boring. Wine ? Very 90s.'
It was a free spirited audience. I had people smoking dope on both sides of me. There was odd person dancing, and lots of chair dancing. Security presence was light.
Michael Leonhart got a mention as 'Dad Leonhart.'
The crowd rose for a standing ovation after Kid C near the end of the set.
We convened a wee Danfest (Sue, Dave and I) beforehand on the sidewalk at a cafe across from the cable car museum. What a day. Sunny and maybe up to 75 F.
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 02:16:24 ET
Posted by: The Wicked Librarian, Pathetic Left Coast
10/25 San Francisco, Internet Request Night
Setlist:
Teenie's Blues(band)Intro
Black Friday
Aja
Babylon Sisters
Bodhisattva
FM
Any Major Dude
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Peg
Do It Again
Love Is an Itch (vocals by chorus)
Bad Sneakers
Deacon Blues (Donald forgot some of the lyrics)
Piano Solo
Josie
Black Cow
Dirty Work (vocals by chorus)
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Reelin' In the Years
Last Tango in Paris (Band)Outro
I'm not qualified to talk about sound quality etc. I hear with one ear. I liked it ALL.
The audience was awesome. There were lots of young people in their 20's last night and tonight dancing in the back rows on the main floor. I joined them both nights.
There were loads of empty seats tonight and the ushers moved our entire section over one section so I ended up with a 5th row seat and could see Jon Herrington, my beloved Walter, and Donald easily. The chorus was dressed snazzier tonight than last night though I only saw the back of their shap-e-ly bodies last night, I pay attention to those inconsequential things. I really liked Donald's shawl collar tux jacket worn with t-shirt & black jeans, he wore last night and again tonight. Cool blue shades,tonight. Clear rim shades, last night.
That's all folks,
The Wicked Librarian
Date: Mon, October 26, 2009, 00:03:39 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Those San Francisco Nights, Part 2 (Rev. A): Steely Dan Masonic Hall, 10/24/09 Setlist and Report:
Intro: Teenie's Blues, (~8:50 PM)
The Royal Scam (Album)
Black Friday
Dirty Work (Ladies' Vocals)
Hey 19
Aja
Daddy Don't Live...(WB Vocals)
Love Is Like An Itchin' In My Heart/Band Intros
Show Biz Kids
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Encore: Reelin' In The Years (Original Version)
Outro: Last Tango (~10:55 PM)
This was another outstanding Album Night on what is now the "Mo' Rent" tour, as Donald described it. A big improvement compared to last night was that the house speakers were largely replaced by the band's equipment. Perhaps I should subtitle this report "make my wildest dreams come true". I had assumed that for some reason the band's gear could not be used in this facility, so when we got there I was pleasantly surprised. I spent some time before the Sam Yahel set talking with the band's new "sound guy", named Charlie, who took over last May. He told me that it took the entire Friday show to get the house equipment optimized. Clearly it was still not up to their standards, so they made the switch for the Saturday show. Charlie told me that the only house equipment components still in use were the flanking arrays pointing directly left and right. He also told me that he thought the sound from where we were sitting would be fine. We were in the middle of section 6, which was about halfway between dead center and the right edge of the house. The interior is basically a half-cylinder, similar to the Gibson but I think the aspect ratio is different. We were in row R, under the balcony about halfway from the balcony front to the back wall. By the way, the outside orchestra sections, mostly empty last night, were packed tonight. So my guess in the last report was probably incorrect; I had thought that the view of most of the band from behind might have precluded their sale.
My judgment of the results from where I sat, was that the sound was much clearer and better mixed. No, it was not Pechanga, but people nearer the center probably had better sound than I did. Sign In Stranger and The Royal Scam were the two numbers that sounded particularly good to me. There was visual evidence of additional work being done tonight. Donald was gesturing to the crew occasionally between vocals, and Herington at least once was consulting with the guitar tech (not Skip; we have not seen him for Leg II), but I don't know what they were trying to correct.
Moving on to the performance, Donald's voice sounded strong all night. He did miss the first two lines of the second verse of DTMA; he rejoined them with (I am fairly sure) "I hear my inside..."
I can't say if this was voice-related or if he just got out of sync. I can say that Sign In Stranger which followed sounded great. Walter had several outstanding guitar solos tonight; I can't remember him ever playing so well.
Some observations about specific songs tonight:
Kid Charlemagne: Herington gets things off to a great start.
Caves of Altamira: Walter inserted some guitar work in place of the closing sax solo from the original recording. I can't remember if he also did this at the Gibson, but it was very well executed tonight.
Sign In Stranger: A fine performance by all, including the vocals.
Haitian Divorce: Another extended closing solo, with Jon and Walter swapping back and forth several times. Perhaps not quite as good as the Gibson version with Larry Carlton as a guest, but close.
The Royal Scam: Pugh really has this one down. I must confess to some past bias here; I had felt that the trumpet accents of the original recording best evoked the despair, disillusionment, etc. of the song's subjects. But The Professor has converted me: in the right hands a trombone works just as well.
Black Friday: After the extended RS standing ovation, first Walter and then Jon let us know they're far from finished.
Aja: I have really run out of superlatives for this song, but I have never seen Weiskopf and Carlock better than tonight.
Josie: Despite the distraction noted below, A great performance. Walter treated us to another first-class solo. Maybe this is their way of saying, "Assholes or no, we're professionals. See?"
Peg: Same comments as for Aja; Herington's solo is as good as any I can recall.
Overall, a very appreciative crowd, with a few unfortunate exceptions. During Beard's piano solo prior to Josie, maybe a dozen people on our (house right) side of the showroom took the opportunity to yell out requests. Donald was gesturing for silence, but to no avail. Finally, someone about 5 rows behind me at the rear of section 6 hit a new low (for me at least), when he yelled out "Freebird!" Donald's response: "Asshole!", followed by, "Do you know how many years I have been hearing that, 'Freebird'?" He may also have said some other things that I missed. Later, when introducing the encore, Donald said, "...the original version, it's called Freebird", and got a pretty good laugh.
Date: Sun, October 25, 2009, 23:14:00 ET
Posted by: almost gothic negative girl, monterey, california
Excellent show last night and an awesome trip driving to and from SF along the California coast on Highway 1. Gorgeous weather--over 70 degrees both days, people surfing, kiteboarding, biking, hiking, picnicking at the beach, and lots of families visiting all of the pumpkin patch attractions which have really sprung up this year. The Arata Pumpkin Farm in Half Moon Bay was over-the-top cool with a huge, elaborate maze made of tall stacks of hay bales, a big King Kong, hayrides, seasonal treats and spookiness and lots of fun for the kiddies. One of those things that adds an extra touch of color to the journey.
Because of Gus's review of Friday night at the Masonic (thanks Gus, and to everyone else who posts their observations of these shows, it is truly appreciated!), I never made it to my seat last night. I had second row balcony, but the open area at the back of the balcony was more my style, especially since this one had a nice six-inch wooden bar which was great for setting your drink on, writing a setlist on, leaning on, etc. The area was carpeted too, so it was comfortable for standing/dancing for 3 hours. Ushers never tried to move anyone along. I was dead center most of the night, and the sound was surprisingly good up there. Worked for me. I went downstairs for a couple of minutes to see if there was a like area at the back of the hall, and there wasn't any as far as I could tell (certainly none in the center) and I found it really hot and stuffy down there, so I booked right back upstairs and was extremely happy with my open space.
I don't think the SF crowd needs to redeem itself for last night. One or two jerks for a minute of the show does not make a shitty crowd. In fact, overall it was a great crowd; high-energy, and totally into it as soon as the band hit the stage. Lots of mini standing O's. Not much talking, no flashes, just happy people showing their appreciation for a fantastic band playing a great show. Except for Mr. Freebird, who picked the wrong time for his little jest. Beard was playing a lush, lovely intro to Josie. Donald handled it well, called him an asshole twice, and was laughing while he said it, but you could tell he was pissed because the timing was so inappropriate, and told the guy he was about as funny as a crutch. His ad lib when he introduced Reelin' as Freebird was excellent and lightened the entire incident.
Anyway, my time is up for now, must tend to other things. I had a fantastic weekend, and I thought the venue and the show were both top-notch. After the show I ended up at a goofy little bar in the Marina district, the Black Magic Voodoo Lounge. Met some fun folks from Kentucky, and we closed the place in style. Perfect end to a wonderful evening. So glad I was able to be a part of this.
Date: Sun, October 25, 2009, 07:49:31 ET
Posted by: Check The Mic,
Jarrett has a mic, Beard does not.
Date: Sun, October 25, 2009, 03:13:06 ET
Posted by: D, Berkeley
Haha, Good one, HH.
Date: Sun, October 25, 2009, 02:59:55 ET
Posted by: HH, US
Beard is clearly no Keith Jarrett if he can't solo and call people assholes all by himself.
Date: Sun, October 25, 2009, 02:46:22 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Off to San Fran
Thanks for all of your
reports Mr. Winterbottom.
Sorry to hear about the less
than adequate sound for your
two shows. Sounds like they
may have it finally figured out
for IR Night. We will have to
wait and see.
Have a safe flight home.
Let's hope the San Fran fans
can redeem themselves tonight.
Date: Sun, October 25, 2009, 02:28:35 ET
Posted by: David MacFadden-Elliott, Berkeley
Royal Scam tonight. I was just enjoying the show tonight, shrugging my journalistic duties, so no complete setlist here; but I thought you'd want to know that tonight, when some guy yelled "Freebird" during Jim Beard's piano solo, Donald snorted, "Asshole...I've been hearing that for 30 years...Why don't you go home, asshole?"
Some tape of the encounter would be much appreciated to get the exact words in order. But well said, I say.
Date: Sun, October 25, 2009, 02:17:59 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, San Francisco, CA
Those San Francisco Nights, Part 2: Steely Dan Masonic Hall, 10/24/09 Setlist and Brief Report:
Intro: Teenie's Blues, (~8:50 PM)
The Royal Scam (Album)
Black Friday
Dirty Work (Ladies' Vocals)
Hey 19
Aja
Daddy Don't Live...(WB Vocals)
Love Is Like An Itchin' In My Heart/Band Intros
Show Biz Kids
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Encore: Reelin' In The Years (Original Version)
Outro: Last Tango (~10:55 PM)
For travel reasons I have to keep this brief for now, but I will try to post something more detailed within 24 hours. But it was a great show tonight, the big improvement being the house speakers were largely replaced by the band's equipment. I spent some time before the Sam Yahel set talking with the band's new "sound guy", who took over last May. Things were evidently not perfect, as you could see Donald gesturing on occasion to the crew, and Herington at least once was consulting with the guitar tech (not Skip; we have not seen him for Leg II), but I don't know what they were trying to correct.
Overall, a very appreciative crowd, with a few unfortunate exceptions. During Beard's piano solo prior to Josie, maybe a dozen people on our (house right) side of the showroom took the opportunity to yell out requests. Donald was gesturing to hold it down, to no avail. Finally, someone about 5 rows behind me at the rear of section 6 hit a new low, when he yelled out "Freebird!" Donald's response: "Asshole!", followed by, "Do you know how many years I have been hearing that, 'Freebird'?". Later, when introducing the encore, Donald said, "...the original version, it's called Freebird", and got a pretty good laugh.
Out for now...
Date: Sun, October 25, 2009, 01:33:12 ET
Posted by: JJ,
Mike- Those three horns up front are the guys in Letterman's band. They just joined in for that one appearance.
Date: Sun, October 25, 2009, 00:25:59 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFV8ATd7pd8&feature=related
Is that 6 horns I count?
Date: Sat, October 24, 2009, 22:43:12 ET
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Date: Sat, October 24, 2009, 20:07:29 ET
Posted by: David MacFadden-Elliott, Berkeley
With the Dan in town playing Royal Scam tonight, I can't help but post this review that I wrote a while back, but just made public today:
http://www.examiner.com/x-16824-Oakland-Live-Music-Examiner~y2009m10d24-Steely-Dan-brings-The-Royal-Scam-to-Nob-Hill
Date: Sat, October 24, 2009, 18:47:40 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, Back home but back tonight
Gus Winterb got the set list right and for the most part captured the mood.
Some additions:
Much different mix of ages from my past SD shows. Most times I'm among the younger set, and I am outnumbered. Yesterday the crowd was skewed much younger, including the folks around us in the balcony. Plenty of boomers, but the crowd reflected the boomers' kids generation as well.
I was disapointed at the start of the show due to the tardiness of the crowd. But by the end the crowd was totally into it. The ushers in the lower section backed off and by MOS the crowd had left its seats and settled near the stage. From the balcony it looked like the whole lower section was on its feet.
I think Sam Yehel (sic?) was due to play, but because the seats were empty at 8pm they may have decided to pull the plug on the opening act.
I thought they started at 8:45pm because shortly after they started I looked at my watch and it was 8:49pm.
Sound quality was poor. No other way to describe it. I think it has to do with the venue's equipment, and the difference between that and more powerful equipment used for other venues. It seemed as if the audio had a muffler on it. I was a bit disappointed.
All-n-all, I think SF acquitted itself well. Hopefully, tonight's crowd will step it up a notch.
Date: Sat, October 24, 2009, 16:40:27 ET
Posted by: Rajah, hey little scooter
Gus, nice, nice, very nice.
Breedob, you found me, honey, I did catch the Dan in Rome in July and they acquitted themselves quite well, as always, I guess they are my one true love. But you're right up there, sweetheart. My love to everyone back home.
Date: Sat, October 24, 2009, 14:28:13 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks for the timely report
Mr. Winterbottom.
Very cool move by D&W to
honor Soupy Sales. Doesn't
surprise me, I understand
Mr. Sales was a huge "friend"
of Jazz. And had many of the
greats on his various shows
even when they were finding it
hard to sell tickets.
Date: Sat, October 24, 2009, 12:47:58 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
just sent some info about pre-show activities to the Philly list-be sure to get in with everyone else by signing up at http://www.dandom.com/danfests/#philly
I finally found the name of that bar across from the Tower--here's the details from the Philly Danfest pages: http://dandom.com/pipermail/phila/2009-October/000024.html
_______________________________________________
Date: Sat, October 24, 2009, 10:31:14 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Just got the latest Dandom Digest and was stunned by the [scholarship award] what a great idea! Damn Hoops you make us proud to be Daniacs. I would think Don and Walt must think Hoops is one hell of a captain steering this ship. Kudos Hoops and I and am sure others will keep this in mind the rest of this year and hopefully next years tours as well Viva La Dan!!
Date: Sat, October 24, 2009, 09:30:18 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Thanks, Gus. Another outstanding post.
Date: Sat, October 24, 2009, 06:26:38 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, San Francisco, CA
Those San Francisco Nights, Part 1: Steely Dan Masonic Hall Setlist and Report, 10/23/09:
Intro: Teenie's Blues (~8:50 PM)
Aja (Album)
Black Friday
Time Out Of Mind
Bodhisattva
Daddy Don't Live...(WB Vocals)
Babylon Sisters
Hey 19
Show Biz Kids
Dirty Work (Ladies' Vocals)
Love Is Like An Itchin' In My Heart/Band Intros
Don't Take Me Alive
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Encore: Reelin' In The Years ("Original Version" in Donald's words)
Outro: Last Tango (~11:00 PM)
This is an interesting venue, capacity about 2500, according to a couple of ushers that I asked. The seats are laid out in full semicircles (is that an oxymoron?), so to prevent obstructions the front of the stage is roughly 35 feet forward into what is usually the pit area. Donald's Rhodes was maybe 10 feet back from that, so seats in the two outside sections would be viewing the band from behind or at best, in profile. Probably for this reason, it appears that the orchestra seats for those sections were not sold.
We were in the back row of the balcony, slightly house left of center. There is a walkway behind that row 6 to 8 feet deep which could be sold as standing room, but was used tonight by a lot of fans for dancing. I am not sure if there is a similar area on the lower level.
The band used the house speakers tonight, and the sound quality was almost the only flaw tonight, at least from where we sat. Certainly a notch down from Pechanga last week, IMHO, and probably the Gibson and Palms shows as well. It also seemed that the sound improved later, so hopefully this will be less of an issue for later shows, assuming that refinements are being made. I don't exactly have the best-trained ears to report on venue acoustics, so consider the source here.
That aside, I think that this was, overall, another great performance with the band feeding off of the crowd energy. Walter looked to be in the best spirits I can recall this tour, and Donald was clearly enjoying the crowd as well. Some highlights and details from the show:
After Josie and the extended standing ovation, Donald was discussing the tour concept this year, and he referred to Internet Request Night as "some bogus idea" at which point Walter said something, and then Donald said something like "no, it's valid". They then performed a rousing version of Black Friday, with Herington in particularly good form.
Bodhisattva was another excellent peformance, and the crowd loved it; not quite another full standing ovation, but lots of fans on their feet.
After the conclusion of Daddy Don't Live..., Donald said that the song was for Soupy Sales, who died on Thursday. Of course, this dedication was made moments after the line "But we know you're smokin' wherever you are" was voiced by Walter. Later in the show (I can't recall exactly when), Walter dedicated this show to Soupy Sales as well. I can remember watching his syndicated show in my youth; no doubt many readers "my age" also recall his antics.
Bablyon Sisters got a big cheer for "San Francisco show and tell", as expected.
Dirty Work was another excellent performance tonight. Then Herington took it up a notch for DTMA, MOS, and Kid C; I am not positive, but I think that by the middle of MOS, most of the crowd was on its feet.
I know I am leaving out a lot, but I have to rest up for tomorrow. One other thing: Jim Pugh rejoined the band tonight.
Out for now...
Date: Sat, October 24, 2009, 05:13:24 ET
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Date: Sat, October 24, 2009, 02:07:44 ET
Posted by: suedave, one more show!
SS, fellow pacific northwesterner...see you in San Francisco!
Date: Sat, October 24, 2009, 01:39:55 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
NYB,
Some material is so good, and some artists are so wonderful, that stuff sounds great regardless of the size of the band or production values involved. Anyone hearing Fagen's solo piano version of Black Cow can attest to that.
Full disclosure here: I have always been a big Al Green fan, and my brother played lead guitar on his album "Back Up Train" (all but the title song). But as good as Al sounds with a small group, he sounds as good or better with some support:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppzf3N0mdHo&feature=related
Some players sound as good, or better, by themselves as with support. The one performer who comes to mind who I think is as good in a duo setting, or even by himself, as he is with his band is Dave Mason. Let's take the example of "We Just Disagree". Here's the version with the band from 1977:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnsxq2YKyUo&feature=related
But Mason is probably best when it is just he and Jim Krueger playing together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7tCJISqZz4
A solo version (with Dave playing the 12-string) sounds pretty sweet, too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FljGvqlalEE
Yet after all these years it still sounds great in a band setting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCpQLZs2Eh8&feature=related
The consistency is incredible.
And, since I'm on a Dave Mason jag, he is the only person, other than Dylan and Hendrix, who has played a worthy version of All Along the Watchtower:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb_O2LfyxAw
Date: Fri, October 23, 2009, 22:02:34 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, on my way to the Masonic
Ready to head over and looking forward to a great time.
Will try to remain sober enough to report back, but do not count on it.
Date: Fri, October 23, 2009, 19:30:41 ET
Posted by: Paul,
FYI, Cynthia Calhoun's website has finally received a much needed makeover and all pages are now up to date.
Please support an alum. LOL
Date: Fri, October 23, 2009, 19:30:04 ET
Posted by: SS, Vancouver
Enjoying the fantastic fall weather in Vancouver, though a bit rainy today. I don't get to see colours like this in Hong Kong.
Will file from SF after Sunday night's internet request show. That is some venue by the look of the photos I've seen.
http://www.sfmasoniccenter.com/images/auditorium3.jpg
I had an unexpected thrill Monday night in the small town of Bellingham, Washington south of Vancouver by about an hour. Just Ben Folds and his piano. I'm a huge fan.
I won't go into the details, but this was the reverse of a SD show. People started screaming out song titles, and BF would stop, listen and eventually play one. At one point, he said a song would be hard to do without a woman to sing (it's a duet) and he invited someone/anyone to come up. A girl made her way and overcame early jitters to really pull it off nicely. Same thing happened later for his cover of Dr. Dre's 'Bitches Ain't Shit.' Except this time the girl was drop dead great. I swear it was unplanned.
Anyway, that's just who Ben Folds is when it's one man and a piano - he's open to everything. SD is not doing that (can't do it the way things are set up) and there's no substitute for what they do with 13 people on stage.
Date: Fri, October 23, 2009, 17:38:25 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu - 89 Degrees Definitely Not Fall
I also could agree more with
AGNG reports of the beautiful
"Fall" happening in San Jose.
As she so rightly put, "Who knew?"
I think it’s the majority of
beautiful tree lined streets with
trees that were actually "turning"
and a nice crisp cool cloudless
evening. Sitting out front on
Pedro Street on a beautiful sunny
"Fall" day, waiting to grab the
train for the quick trip to the
"armory" to see Steely Dan, as
leaves actually fell onto the table,
was just delightful.
The 4 to 7 "Happy Hour" with $3
Anchor Steam, didn't hurt either!
;O)
Looking forward to tonight's opening
reports from San Fran. Don't be tardy
with the reports people. You don't
want to anger poppa hoops and make him
reach for the belt!
Date: Fri, October 23, 2009, 11:44:04 ET
Posted by: Anderson,
Joey
"What a Set List !!!!! .... This makes Joey MOIST !!!"
Joey..this crap is getting so old. Go away.
Date: Fri, October 23, 2009, 10:14:42 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, MCO
Ray, thanks for the review and the correct set list, though I've never heard the SD song "Jose" before.
I kid, I kid.
Date: Fri, October 23, 2009, 09:14:33 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Hey, Lutz, we accountants can fool you.
Date: Fri, October 23, 2009, 06:44:01 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Thanks for the reviews...no...Dr Wu??? Hard to imagine on internet request night.
Date: Fri, October 23, 2009, 03:21:48 ET
Posted by: Mr.Carrot72,
I do know that taking the conservative hands-off approach is just going to make things worse. ,
Date: Fri, October 23, 2009, 00:30:18 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Packing for SF
Thanks for the reports, Ray, Lutz, and AGNG.
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 22:45:32 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Duh! Pulled a Lutz!
Flip-flop
My Old School &
Don't Take Me Alive
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 22:38:01 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Steely Dan Internet Request – San Jose October 21, 2009:
Chain Lightning & It Felt Sooo Good!
Out of the 3 Internet Request Nights I have seen, this one was tops and sans Larry Carlton. Sure I missed Dr Wu, but just look at that set list!(CORRECT VERSION BELOW - Lutz what were you smoking? – Showbiz Kids? – Might have left out one song? But they did play Kid C right after Black Cow?? Reeling In The Years after Deacon?? Dude, you were not even close! Did you really go to the show? ;O) No wonder hoops thinks you guys take too many drugs. But then again hoops can only dream of being at this show. Way better than this summers IR shows. The “energy” tonight in that old hall that hosted Duke Ellington & Buddy Holly was just historical. It was built in 1936 during the 1st Depression and Rent Parties, when our own financial mess clouded the evil that was brewing across the pond.
Don said before starting Aja, “You are the arbiters of our set list – so sit back and relax, we will take care of the rest”. Perhaps Don was judging this crowd by Tuesday night’s standards, no one this evening was going to be sitting back and relaxing. They drove this crowd into a fever pitch that took the entire band by surprise. Don laughed as he introduced “Mo’ Rent Leg 2 Internet Request Night”. That’s because Wednesday night in San Jose, WAS A RENT PARTY!
The first real one of the entire tour. People got no mo’ money. Times is hard. Ticket sales were not going well I guess, because they slashed the ticket prices to half by show time, this pretty much filled the place. It’s going to be real tough to beat that energy Sunday night in San Fran, but then again, we will have to wait and see what the Illuminati have to bring to the table.
Sure the sound was like they were playing in an armory, who am I kidding, they DID play in an armory. But the crowd was fanatic. Holy Sh*t was it loud in there last night. Talked to an usher after the show and she said, she couldn’t believe the crowd transformation, “It was so quiet pretty much all of Tuesday night”, she said. “But tonight, you people went crazy and all of that dancing…And it was a Wednesday night!” It was a frenzied Steely Dan Youth Rally, San Jose Chapter. Just amazing. Pretzel Logic – They stepped it up on the platform and after, a proud Fagan looking for vindication for this set list shake up commented, “What do you think of the selections so far? The crowd roared back it’s devotion. “I think it’s pretty good, right?”, replied a proud Don who went on to sing stellar versions of, Rikki & Any Major Dude. “Let’s see what else you guys picked”, cracked Don, before dropping a goose bump take of Deacon that was even better than Aja night in LA.
They tried to keep them from dancing, but they lost that battle of attrition. They even let people dance off in the corners all night. By My Old School, the aisles were filled with San Jose Brown Shirts, one of the security guys at the foot of the stage, joked with the other across from him gesturing, “Well, DO something about it!” MOS was easily a masterpiece last night. Don was banging these chords in call and response with Jon that brought a huge smile to Jon’s face. Propelled by these San Jose fans as they took over the Auditorium, Don went to another level in his inventive playing.
Steely Dan was inducted into the venue's Wall of Fame Tuesday, and they have some classic photos of past acts on the wall along with a new Steely Dan Photo. They promise new digital/state-of-the art sound coming soon after a renovation, but c’mon once an “armory” always an armory. It really reminded me of the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium in San Fran if you have ever been in that venue/armory. But who cares, the show last night was just off the chain. Man did those San Jose fans throw a party. They even had Klieg lights out front. They only thing missing was a Steely Dan Logo Bat Signal.
The new trombone player tonight was the great Mark Patterson. A gentleman even shorter than Michael. So when you looked at the height of the horn section, they fell into correct order. The first ever Steely Dan Evolutionary chart. But man did the little guy swing a big bone. Like the jump-cut in 2001: A Space Odyssey.
Walt told the crowd, “Fuck you guys really know how to throw a party! Couldn’t agree more. After the show as I walked to the train, I heard Miss Dionne in my ear:
Steely Dan has lots of friends in San Jose
Do you know the way to San Jose?
Cant wait to get back to San Jose.
Thanks for the Tuesday Night report AGNG
Here is the correct set list –
San Jose Internet Request Night 10/21:
Teenie’ Blues
Black Friday
Aja
Hey 19
The Royal Scam
Bodhisattva
Peg
FM
Pretzel Logic
Any Major Dude
Rikki
Do It Again
Itchin – Band Intros
Babylon Sisters
Deacon Blues
Jose
Black Cow
My Old School
Don't Take Me Alive
Kid Charlemagne
Encore:
Reeling In the Years
Mo’ Gato, Mr. Roboto
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 18:46:00 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
Does anyone ever use the Green Room? I have tried to click on it several times over the last few months, (after 9pm of course, it freezes everything up, and I have to restart my comp.
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 18:09:14 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
No Walter vocals Daddy/NYC last night but they did play
Kid C right after Black Cow.
Jim Pugh wasn't there either night and was replaced by a guy that looked the tour accountant, he played great!
Got a couple of solos in as well.
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 17:41:11 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, Outside the masonic Auditorium
Looks like they are playing Rikki on Internet Request Night.
Hope they play it this Sunday!
If so,I will have heard Do It, Reelin and Rikki all on this tour.
Life is very sweet!
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 17:19:54 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" San Jose 10/21:
Jazz Intro
Black Friday
Aja
The Royal Scam
Bosdhisatva
Show Biz Kids
Peg
FM
Pretzel Logic
Any Major Dude
Rikki
Do it again
Hey 19
Walt intro
Babylon Sisters
Deacon Blues
Reeling in the years
Josie
Black Cow
My Old School
Don't take me alive
Jazz Outro
You know what kind of night it's going to be when Becker comes out and starts soloing right away on Black Friday!
Walt & Don upbeat.
Incredible show, sound great as well.
~ 3000 , almost sold out
Might have left out 1 song.
Aja on tuesday was incredible and Jim Beard played a little more.
Everything he touches turns to gold. "
What a Set List !!!!! .... This makes Joey MOIST !!!
J FLY ! ™ ( Est. 2002 and loved by Everybody )
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 16:14:46 ET
Posted by: Daddy , M.I.A.
Me thinks the missing tune = Daddy Don't Live w/Walter Becker Singing (No Mo')
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 15:49:40 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Hoops:
Many thanks for the heads-up about the probable SD tours in 2010 and 2011, and......on and on, we hope........
This will give me much-needed extra time to save up $$, hotel points, air miles......and, most importantly, extra time to forewarn the spouse so he doesn't have a huge (black) cow when I hit the road/ air next summer !!
Great news !!
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 13:33:13 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,
A little different than they've been doing for the Internet Request Nights.
If the order is correct, they moved up Reelin' in the Years. Deacon Blues, The Royal Scam, Show Biz Kids, and Pretzel Logic had not been played at the majority of the previous request nights. Doctor Wu omitted.
If you did miss one song, could it be Kid Charlemagne? It would be really surprising if they didn't play that.
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 13:26:28 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, #7 train
They banged out Aja & Royal Scam title cuts back-to-back?? Damn, would have loved that.
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 13:14:57 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
San Jose 10/21:
Jazz Intro
Black Friday
Aja
The Royal Scam
Bosdhisatva
Show Biz Kids
Peg
FM
Pretzel Logic
Any Major Dude
Rikki
Do it again
Hey 19
Walt intro
Babylon Sisters
Deacon Blues
Reeling in the years
Josie
Black Cow
My Old School
Don't take me alive
Jazz Outro
You know what kind of night it's going to be when Becker comes out and starts soloing right away on Black Friday!
Walt & Don upbeat.
Incredible show, sound great as well.
~ 3000 , almost sold out
Might have left out 1 song.
Aja on tuesday was incredible and Jim Beard played a little more.
Everything he touches turns to gold.
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 10:19:32 ET
Posted by: Craig B.,
Hoops
Indio did have same setlist as Pechanga
My apologies for being vague
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 10:12:27 ET
Posted by: Bob's yer Uncle, Minneapolis
What?, still no set lists two straight nights? Let's step it up people. Are we already bored with request night anticipation?
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 10:10:18 ET
Posted by: Rajah, reluctant singer
Hutch, I love Donald's vocal retards and anticipations, his lingering and wavering croonings. No, they're not always perfect but they really make the music arrive for me. There's technique, there's perfect pitch and intonation, none of which Donald is a master of. But there's something more, the ability to lay oneself bare and communicate, communicate with all the defects in a way that speaks so much more to me than all the bell'canto could ever do.
He's a great singer, fading pipes and all.
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 09:17:02 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Wow, that will be a DVD to get, really for any musician. Wayne Krantz? Oh yeah.
DF's habit of holding the note out at the end of some phrases bugs me a little as well. Certainly he can do whatever he wants, but truth be known, he really doesn't do it that well. He gets off pitch sometimes. Part of that could be not hearing himself as well as he would like in his monitor. Part of it, no doubt, is from the rigors of the road. I remember a few years ago someone either here or on Pat's site (I think it was Oleander) talking about how DFs vocals on the records are pitch perfect and what a good sense of pitch he has. I think that's still true, but it's SOOOOO much easier in the studio environment.
But the bottom line is how strong and well trained your instrument is to begin with. I saw Ann Wilson with Heart a few years ago on the last night of a five month tour and her voice was incredible.
DF was a reluctant singer to begin with. He's no Sinatra and he certainly knows it, but nobody brings to a song what Donald Fagen brings to a song.
And it's interesting to note that having the back-up vocals hold out notes over several measures is a hallmark of his arranging style.
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 06:47:40 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
from the Keith Carlock Newsletter:
Hi Everyone!
I am currently on the second part of the Steely Dan 2009 Tour and it's off to a great start!!
Please check www.steelydan.com and www.keithcarlock.com for more details and further announcements to come!
I just wanted to let you all know that my first ever instructional DVD with Hudson Music will be
in music stores the week of October 26th, 2009 which is next week! Other internet outlets to follow such as
Amazon.com on November 4th, 2009. You can also pre-order NOW at www.hudsonmusic.com and get any further info.
This DVD is a great Christmas gift for drummers on any level! It features music of Rudder, Oz Noy, and
an in studio performance and master class with Wayne Krantz and Tim Lefebvre, many demonstrations, approach
to Steely Dan's music, technique, and much much more! It is 5 hours long on two DVD's!
It is entitled Keith Carlock "The Big Picture" (Phrasing, Improvisation, Style, and Technique)
Please spread the word and order you copy today!!
As always, thanks very much for your interest in my little world and I hope you all enjoy the DVD
as much as I enjoyed making it with Hudson!
Until next time,
Thanks!!!
Keith Carlock
NYC
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 03:44:00 ET
Posted by: Mr.Carrot63,
Hence, regardless of where Mr. ,
Date: Thurs, October 22, 2009, 02:41:20 ET
Posted by: nostatic, socal
Actually my favorite version of Dirty Work was Cynthia Calhoun singing it back on the '00/'03 tours.
Beard is truly amazing.
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 23:10:01 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Becker, Forward Girl:
Yes, they're stocking the 401ks Night by Night. Great to see and hear Beard on board. The best shot at a last album is from Donald. What a ride it has been.
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 22:39:40 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
AMNG: Thanks for coming through as best as you can with a set list. I'm convinced that all other Danfans on the west coast are so drugged up they can't even remember the show -- however, you are very redeeming of your co-horts.
Swell details!
Jim Pugh is a professor by day. He kinda has to be in Illinois now and then or maybe that's just me.
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 22:27:54 ET
Posted by: almost gothic negative girl, monterey
Ok, finally have time to attempt to add a little color, observation, and opinion. Be forewarned that my hearing has been impacted from many years of working in rock n' roll bars and it unfortunately ain't what it used to be. No matter where I sit at a concert, if I really want to hear what's going down, I have to cup my hand to extend my ear, ala old-fashioned earhorn action. Eh Sonny, what's that you say? Yeah, like that. Improves the sound immensely though. But I can't do that continuously, so I miss more stuff than I would like to.
Donald flubbed a lyric right off the bat, and I was Oh No, I hope it's not going to be one of those shows. But happily, it wasn't. He was pretty much on it after that. Some of his extended-note delivery gets a bit wearing after awhile, but these are his songs and he can sing them however he wants to or is able to at this point, so no complaint. It was done to a lesser extent this time compared to other recent shows I have been to. Sometimes the Melodica sounds out of place, but it was a nice touch last night. It worked.
For me, Walter's highlight of the night was his rap during Hey Nineteen. It was fresh and funny. Donald had mentioned earlier that they had first played San Jose 23 or 26 years ago. So Walter played off of that, this is not what he said, but the general feeling (my apologies to Walter for making a mess of this): Remember how you used to come here to all these shows with a girl, about 26 years ago, and get a good feeling, and always end up getting laid? Well here we are all these years later, so after the show you go home with your girlfriend/wife/whoever, and think Hey, a little drink might get me lucky again, but I don't drink anymore, let's see what's in the liquor cabinet. So you open it up, there's the Coricidan, the this and that (he fills in some OTC drug names) no no no, wrong cabinet, so you go to the right cabinet, and there's Bourbon, no, Scotch, nah, Vodka, which is like nothing, Gin, nope, too girly, so you ask your babe what might do the trick, and then, of course, the ladies come in with the Cuervo Gold, the fine Columbian... It was well-paced and refreshing.
Missed chance of the night for me were the girls on Dirty Work. Very sweet, celestial sounds and lovely harmonies, but they didn't step up enough. I missed Cindy Mizelle, who has busted out in the past on this song, and in so doing, challenged her colleagues to do the same. This is their one chance to really wail, and although they sounded great, they really needed to cut loose here, and they didn't. Maybe they are told to hold back; I don't know. But the moment called for deep, belting, grab-you-by-the-balls vocals, and it didn't happen. Too bad. The crowd was ready for it.
The standout of the night (I have seen the band many times and am always looking for a different twist) was definitely Jim Beard. I think it was on I Got the News where he was absolutely incredible and totally caught my attention. I really enjoyed his playing. Yes, Herrington and Carlock always provide pyrotechnics, but here was something bold and bright and slightly unexpected. Michael Leonhart also gets a gold star for delivering a sparkling performance.
Near the end of the night, this small, semi-reserved crowd really came alive, and Walter seemed sincerely overtaken by the outpouring of emotion coming from the crowd--He said something like, "Wow, what a great fucking crowd you guys turned out to be!" and it seemed heartfelt, and slighty surprised, and I am in agreement with his statement. Everything had gelled and taken a huge leap forward. The connection was finally there.
Had a wonderful pre-show warm-up at Gordon Biersch Brewery, great bartender, nice happy hour, playoffs on the bigscreens. All in all, a lovely fall evening in San Jose (who knew?) with Steely Dan. As I left the venue, stage left, two black limos were just pulling out of the performer's parking area. Guess who ; )
Looking forward to the Saturday Scam in San Francisco.
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 21:21:50 ET
Posted by: bikemann, nj
Lets see.......Internet Request night= Regular show plus Dr Wu and Any major dude. Anyone wanna bet???
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 20:44:03 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl, 11 hours from Akron but plotting nonetheless
FINALLY: Yes, they plan to tour in 2010...and 2011...and...no I'm not kidding... So save your pennies...save your frequent flier mileage and hotel points...prepare for a separation from your spouse...
Oh Hoops, in homage to our Joey, I must say this prediction makes ForwardGirl very happy! I was afraid 'internet request' was the equivalent of 'attention all shoppers' at the last mall.
And the fact that I am considering 4 (maybe 5) shows this year as just a warmup for better $$ and Steely vacation planning next year is possibly why I don't have time for a spouse to annoy in the first place... :-)
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 20:21:35 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
AGNG - a replacement for the mountainous Jim Pugh???? Oh no, he must be on his death bed to miss a show...please elucidate.
Oh, I forgot, he's one of the first call trombonists in the world, he probably got a call from Beyonce...or Ennio Morricone.
Thank you, no other details you can impart as to the execution of the show? Please, prego, go on.
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 19:52:24 ET
Posted by: almost gothic negative girl, monterey
I'm busy at work--not much time for a review, but I can see that you folks are itchin' all over for any news regarding last night--so here's a little something. Sam Yahel Trio opened at 8pm, played four songs. Quite decent. More enjoyable than the other time I saw them. Very sparse crowd for their set, but relatively attentive and appreciative, considering all the comings and goings of arrivals and beer runs, etc. Sam introduced his band at the end of the short set and said what an honor it was to be opening for Steely Dan on this tour.
Room then filled to maybe 3/4 capacity. SD took the stage right about 9pm and played until approx 11:15.
I did't keep a setlist. I used SueDave's Aja set list posted on Oct 13th (thanks SueDave!) as a template because I believe that it was identical to last night's show, with a possible exception. The order may have been switched up by a song or two during the second half--then again, maybe not. Also, I couldn't swear they played Don't Take Me Alive, as I was out of the auditorium for a bit...
Teenies Blues
Black Cow
Aja
Deacon Blues
Peg
Home at Last
I Got the News
Josie
Black Friday
Time Out of Mind
Daddy Don't Live NYC
Bodhisattva
Babylon Sisters
Show Biz Kids
Hey 19 (w/a decent story)
Dirty Work
Itchin/Intros
Do It Again
(DTMA?)
My Old School
Reelin' 72
Last Tango
I had a decent, nearly front and center, balcony seat on the aisle, but the sound was very tinny and treble-y up there. Late in the show (should have moved earlier, D'oh!) I went down to the main floor and found a better vantage point, where I was a lot closer and the visuals and sound were a lot better. Good move.
Took the band a few songs to hit their stride. Also, several songs seemed slightly rushed. Ladies were Carolyn, Tawatha, and Catherine I believe. Jim Pugh had a replacement--guy's name was something like Dave Peterson.
All in all I would rate this show (on the SD scale) as a B-, but I think if I had been downstairs all night, it would have been a solid B, perhaps even B+. More later if I get a chance...
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 18:37:17 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Yes. Exclamation point.
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 18:31:54 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Oh yeah,
Any confirmation on what was played at San Jose last night?
I mean, yeah, sure, they opened with "Teenie's...", played "Aja" completely in the original LP order,[then .... ] and they closed with "Last Tango" music. But what about in between, for those "additional select favorites..."
Thanks for filling in the set list blanks...sorry if I overlooked the answer below.
FINALLY: Yes, they plan to tour in 2010...and 2011...and...no I'm not kidding... So save your pennies...save your frequent flier mileage and hotel points...prepare for a separation from your spouse...
Best wishes and many thanks,
Jim
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 18:24:59 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Someone wrote that Indio had the same setlist as Temecula "as far as they could see"...is that correct or was there any difference?
THANKS!
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 17:42:17 ET
Posted by: Rajah, a rainbow lightshaft running up my spine
That's the transcendant description this reviewer from the San Jose paper gives to the chords of Black Cow. I concur this is a special song. The first time I heard them play it so many years ago now, it came rushing back to me like the hot kiss at the end of wet fist. Firesign Theatre fans take note. It was and remains special. So much space inside that song for the listener to fill in whatever way he or she will. When I think of Black Cow, I think of autumn. An LA breeze billowing up through the curtains in the living room as I walk through the house, summer's over, yes, a sense of loss but also of liberation.
The reviewer states he doesn't really listen or muse upon Steely Dan lyrics. That's a real shame because there's so much packed inside those poetics. The lady of Black Cow for me is an extention of our Katy. Only here our protagonist has finally come to the end of the road.
OK, San Jose, what gives?
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 15:40:48 ET
Posted by: San Jose, Review
http://www.mercurynews.com/puzzles-games/ci_13609495
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 14:05:22 ET
Posted by: Steely Dan sings the ACC, The State
http://www.thestate.com/181/story/992226.html?storylink=omni_popular
Must be a pretty big fan to be using Becker solo stuff here.
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 09:50:10 ET
Posted by: RR Jas, home at last
Jive Miguel-Carlos PC's videos are fantastic. Carolyn is beautiful, the band is tight. Love them ladies. At Pechanga, Carolyn was the first to be introduced and Walter started with Catherin. ooops
Date: Wed, October 21, 2009, 09:36:24 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Off To San Jose
Do you know the way?
No news from San Jose?
Date: Tues, October 20, 2009, 23:17:11 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, DC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM-EGDMNVFU
I love this little gem, filmed by carlospc during the 2003 EMG tour, with a beautiful, haunting solo by Cornelius, RIP. We love you.
Herington's guitar evokes Brooklyn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCGiG4rgx5I
Date: Tues, October 20, 2009, 23:04:11 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
SD appreciate mystery in a number of ways, often shrouding their sardonic streak.
Raj: Speaking of mysteries and ultimate mysteries...those clips are Paddy McAloon's "Smile." They're all demos from 1993, updated in the digital age for release. The follow-up to Jordan, the Comeback had Paddy and Srpout peaking and flexing their artistic muscles. McAloon was going through the Catholic gestalt thing, and wrote a set that can only be described as miraculous and majestic. Chock full of hooks, clever ideas that would make Brian Wilson blush. The beginnings of polish so smooth they would make Aja sound like the Ramones live [I mean From Langley Park to Memphis and Jordan the Comeback contain some of the only stuff that can out Steely DAn Steely Dan]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKHrIzJgNaI
Paddy presented these budding masterpieces to the execs at Sony in 1993...unfortunately, they weren't about porn or nihilism or b***es and hos, they were about... MrBig. Optimism and cynicism merge in a very human tigheing of tunes and vignettes. Instead of seeing the genius, Sony saw controversy and shelved the project. Paddy was absolutely devastated...and while Sprout release 2 more very good albums Andromeda Heights in 1997 and The Gunman and Other Stories in 2001, McAloon as a composer was a shadow of the man we once knew...since then he's been batting 2 retinal detachments and tinnitus, only recently emerging as the new Santa Claus.
Long rumored as a potential epic, last month McAloon released the pumped up demos as Let's Change the World with Music. Unlike the mythical Prince Black Album or Chicago's return to non-formulaic pop Son of Sisyfus (sp?) this is GREAT. Frankly, the best set of tunes McAloon ever penned, and the Legend lives - he IS a post-modern Cole Porter. The attention to detail in demos is STUNNING - it's hard to believe ONE man conjured all this. Every freakin' song is a classic. Some of the best music of the 21st Century IMO...out of nowhere...a band I'd given up on a5 years ago...and it turned out so did Sony, and wrongly so
It's an import so run don't walk to amazon.com, or better to buy overseas and pay the freight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EncLBa7KYcg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyW0-8ePDkc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxvnoAR_AcA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igWw6MCmrK0&feature=related
Btw, Trawl the Megahertz, the mostly instrumental album by Paddy is very interesting in its own right...but it's not THIS.
Back to Dan. Donald or Dan should just go Indy or release any new stuff on MySpace like the rest of the real musicians out there.
Date: Tues, October 20, 2009, 21:20:34 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Looking forward to the reports
from San Jose tonight. What time
did SD go after the 8PM opener??
Thanks, I'd like to plan my
arrival tomorrow night.
Date: Tues, October 20, 2009, 16:59:57 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
That irony is not lost on me. Funny how things change...
Date: Tues, October 20, 2009, 16:57:23 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, MCO
Can't help but observe the irony that DF and WB stopped touring in the 70's because of the hassle factor and focused on making their money by delivering new albums. Now, they make their money by touring and avoid the hassle of making the albums.
Date: Tues, October 20, 2009, 16:17:02 ET
Posted by: A Fan, 5553433
I believe if not for the Album of the Year Grammy garnered by the 2vN, there wouldn't have even been a ninth album. At the very least, it wouldn't have come as early as 2003. The the ticket buyers aren't clamoring to hear material from the last two. Morph The Cat was DOA. CD sales industry wide are in the shitter. It's easy to see why they aren't motivated.
Date: Tues, October 20, 2009, 15:31:34 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
The players in the current incarnation of Steely Dan obviously enjoy, get great joy out of playing together. Individually, they are all crack vituosos, certainly that must be evident to anyone. And I'm sure that's what's holding them together. The work is good work, it satisfies their souls. As long as that holds, they will return to us.
But Walter's quote about a new album not even being on the, "boards," is revelatory. There's no money to be made from a 10th Steely Dan album, only money to be lost. And still and all, I believe we will see that record in some far-flung future.
It's what they do.
Date: Tues, October 20, 2009, 14:35:05 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
I thought they were now in perpetual tour mode.
Date: Tues, October 20, 2009, 12:55:41 ET
Posted by: Becker, Interview
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/20/DDDA1A66CM.DTL
Date: Tues, October 20, 2009, 11:21:25 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, MCO
Ok, I'll go ahead and ask:
Will there be a 2010 tour?
Venues getting smaller, not always selling out. Still, I think they are making some pretty decent dough, and perhaps these two night stops with 4-5 days in between is a doable and fairly relaxed schedule.
Still, I can't help but think this may be the last of them we see for awhile.
Date: Tues, October 20, 2009, 08:49:06 ET
Posted by: Pokerman, Outback
paranymphic:
http://www.homespuntapes.com/shop/product.aspx?ID=318 has a DVD but I got my Fagen songbook at Amazon. need help where can be found the promocode for fagen's store? --thx, p.m.
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 21:58:17 ET
Posted by: Tartar Sauce, Snowville Indiana
Is this FL singing?
http://vimeo.com/7151044
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 18:05:02 ET
Posted by: Crab Cakes, Lunch With Blues Scoma's Sausalito
Is that Fish Lips singing in the background?
I heard they are putting on extra security this year to keep Rajah from stealing coke cans that were once touched to Fish Lips for his little alter of horrors.
<object width="400" height="300"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=7151044&server=vimeo.com&show_title=1&show_byline=1&show_portrait=0&color=&fullscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=7151044&server=vimeo.com&show_title=1&show_byline=1&show_portrait=0&color=&fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="300"></embed></object><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/7151044">The Tuna Club presents 'Reef with a View'</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1057598">Bonnie Pelnar</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 17:57:15 ET
Posted by: tripel, NYC
whoops!
sorry about the triple-post
dunno how that happened...
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 17:56:29 ET
Posted by: tripel, NYC
I'm still trying to figure out what time the band will start on Fri Nov 20th in Philly...
I was assuming there was no opening act, but i gather Yahel played in Seattle (even though it wasn't on the Rent Party site...)
Anyone have iany info about Philly, and possible opening acts, and what time SD will hit?
cheers,
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 17:55:57 ET
Posted by: tripel, NYC
I'm still trying to figure out what time the band will start on Fri Nov 20th in Philly...
I was assuming there was no opening act, but i gather Yahel played in Seattle (even though it wasn't on the Rent Party site...)
Anyone have iany info about Philly, and possible opening acts, and what time SD will hit?
cheers,
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 17:55:50 ET
Posted by: tripel, NYC
I'm still trying to figure out what time the band will start on Fri Nov 20th in Philly...
I was assuming there was no opening act, but i gather Yahel played in Seattle (even though it wasn't on the Rent Party site...)
Anyone have iany info about Philly, and possible opening acts, and what time SD will hit?
cheers,
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 17:32:30 ET
Posted by: Tom Hayes, San Diego, Ca
A few thought on the Pechanga show.
1) I thought the Aja night in L.A. had better sound. But I was in the center about 15 rows back in L.A. and I was in the second row on the aisle of the Orch-Right section at Pechanga. I also thought the sound wasn't *loud* at Pechanga and I thought the horns at both shows were mixed a bit too far back.
2) The crowd had many more "singers" in at Pechanga. Singers and people yelling "hell yeah" and howling life wolf men. I'm enthusiastic but I know grunting loudly is kind of lame.
3) The seats are wide and have a lot of leg room. If you're 350 pounds and/or under 6"2 the seats will accommodate you well at Pechanga. And you won't spill over to your neighbor’s seat.
I took my mother to this show (she was jealous that I had seen them twice this year) and she thought it was the best concert she ever attended.
Oh, and cordoning off three lanes back to the freeway added 45 minutes to the trip :(
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 17:12:18 ET
Posted by: Paranymphic, -
Could someone *please* direct me to some decent Steely Dan/Donald Fagen piano chord charts? I would also be more than happy to accept pdf:s or what have you sent to this address: thedawnkid@gmail.com.
The reason I am making this request on a fan board is that the charts I came across through Google seemed somewhat suspicious in places.
Any help would be *much* appreciated!
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 11:54:37 ET
Posted by: Craig B.,
Rajah
No outside.By far no Soboba trip but with 2000 heavy breathers in there it got warm. The AC wasn't getting the job done IMO
DF and Band were doing alot of brow wiping
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 11:26:32 ET
Posted by: Kirk , Sacramento
Here's a link to a nice article in the Sacramento Bee about our boys:
http://www.sacbee.com/crowder/story/2262120.html
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 11:26:23 ET
Posted by: Kirk , Sacramento
Here's a link to a nice article in the Sacramento Bee about our boys:
http://www.sacbee.com/crowder/story/2262120.html
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 10:55:57 ET
Posted by: nwk, potato field
Yea, like I asked this transvestite if he were a giver or receiver and he was so confused that he took his half-pint and walked away. yea, but speaking of laptops, i mean lap dancing, I hate it when male dancer/strippers (or whatevah) do a lapdance, specially knowing that the hired entertainer may be gay and just goin' for the salad --don't get me wrong, I'd deejay any male revue, but only in the winter months. haha. Ug, POCO isn't sporting Schmidt on current tour? And thx CA posters and I've tried when I first visited the bluebook site, cuz I was cheating (well is it sinning if one has consent?) with my boss's s.o. who remains my lover and is a fabulous stripper, btw, and to talk a little about sound theory, when we stole away to the Tower, I think it was, to hear/see the maginificent Donald FAgen Band (Gads, I wore out Morph and need TO BUY another copy--gonna go for the vinyl too if it remains available) AND (fkn CAPS) we got into some rather interesting discussion on sound at venues such as the old theaters that all share similiar architecture--made/designed for acoustic performances and/or vaudeville and/or theater/opera/movies, etc. and, well, let's see here, I proposed some theory about inverting the sound design and incorporting some wireless satellite speakers perhaps due so the rats in the balcony could also enjoy the show and well, SD can't afford me and my date is picky and well, I'm gonna take two dates oh, hell, I'll bring the whole managerie, if possible. newark zoom too busy to proof. luv ya j&J
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 10:21:19 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
And long live Craig B, do you mean it was 104 degrees farenheit in there? Whew, no wonder no standing O.
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 09:50:39 ET
Posted by: Craig B,
Indio show was kick-ass
Same setlist as Temecula as far I can see.
Jim Beard is a great addition. Miss Carolynn The Band, DF, WB are the greatest and put on a hell of a show. the energy was high
The event center reminds me of a high school gym so the sound wasn't sharp but not bad. It was 104 at showtime and warm inside forcing non
diehard fans to the concession stands.
Sad part the crowd...no standing O's till the end. We sat with some newcomers and they were impressed with the Band
Long Live Steely Dan
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 08:19:23 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Hear hear.
I liked those Prefab Sprout clips, they've got some nice things going on there.
The casino shows are pretty cushy affairs for this band, nice short setlist, usually using the house sound system.
So, who is on their way to San Jose?
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 07:46:39 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Doc Mu - Yeah, I know. But they figured it would be in better taste to have the chorus read "Peg, it will come back to you" rather than "Peg, all that on screen fucking will come back to you."
Subtle and sublime rather than HERE IT IS RIGHT IN YOUR FACE!!!!
And besides, it wasn't a very good porn clip to begin with.
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 06:10:42 ET
Posted by: Still Sparkin', YVR
I can only agree with what people are saying about the sound at Pechanga. Cleanest I've heard anywhere.
Lounging now on the west coast, SF bound Sunday morning for the evening internet request show. It's been two years since my last SD concert - Sydney, NSW. Bullgoose, I still have in my wallet the Giant Rat of Sumatra guitar pick you gave me at the Danfest that night. And I've got with me the trusty 'cold weather' jacket I had to buy on that trip when I badly miscalculated the bite at the end of an Aussie winter, showing up in rainy Perth in shirt sleeves. What a maroon.
Got more memories of that tour on the way over here Saturday when the credits rolled on some airplane movie...and it was World Party singing Put the Message in the Box. Those guys opened for SD in Oz/NZ and were great.
Time to make some new memories. Thanks as always to SueDave for snagging me a ticket. Hope I'm there in time for a Danfest.
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 03:44:50 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Miguel,
Thanks for the Youtube links. As for the equipment question you asked on Saturday, for 2008 and 2009 shows I have seen, SD always seems to have the same line-array speakers: two banks of dual speakers hung above the stage. The most similar setup I can find online is a photo of the Greek Theatre in LA (www.greektheatrela.com). I spent some time digging around on the Internet tonight, but I did not see anything that I can safely say is identical. I don't think that they were made by Meyer Sound, because before the 2007 Chumash show a poster with the handle "Milo" (if memory serves) was promoting the new Meyer Sound system at Chumash. I don't recall what the setup looked like, and I don't believe that he mentioned SD as a user of their products otherwise. The only thing I can say is that the elements in the SD line arrays do not look quite like anything on the current Meyer Sound webpage. They MIGHT be SLS Audio model LS9900's, but that is little more than a guess. In any case, for the Las Vegas shows last year and this year these arrays were present in addition to what was evidently the house equipment. I don't know if both sets of speakers were used for the SD shows. One exception to the above: I noted in the Pechanga report that I did not see these arrays there. Also, I noticed at the first Saratoga show last year that the number of speakers had been reduced, presumably due to the smaller venue.
Sorry to be so speculative here; I have a feeling some other posters know the answer. It may have been posted in the past and I have forgotten. If no one else weighs in and I get a chance next week I will ask at the soundboard. Have a good time in DC.
Date: Mon, October 19, 2009, 00:34:34 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, oh the Irony
Hutch, Raj: I know you all DO know that the song Peg is about a Porn Star and that the band was named after a steam-powered dildo...and I don't have to go into Josie, n'est ce pas? ;)
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 21:56:54 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, DC
kzkz,
You're right, carlospc has posted professional-grade clips on you tube, but I have not seen any of his clips of SD more recent than 2006.
As to the Indio clips, pretty high quality amateur stuff, even if the horns are low in the mix. Herington's on fire, and getting adventurous as he continues to make these solos his own. I'm impressed by Don's pipes, finding the notes quickly, assertively and accurately. 11/22 here in DC will be a blast. I'm treating a friend who's never seen these guys (and gals).
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 21:24:12 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, intheeasternworld
ooops, 2nd link should read-(otherwise youtuber carlospc- think these were mentioned some time ago)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY_FI9J1poQ&NR=1
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 21:20:56 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, intheeasternworld
Indio links very nice, Thanks!
Still wonder why no dvds have been released over the years????? Especially when stuff is available, like this, that were taken from the concert hall direct feeds-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc3qcKNmgyI&NR=1
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY_poQ&NR=1
Makes you wonder why they don't make some loot off this stuff. I'd be buying dvds from every tour past and present if they were sanctioned from the band directly..
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 19:35:45 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, DC
Damn, these guys are good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R-c8rpgR7U&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55O8-HImfz4&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxMIkQPDGtE&feature=channel
SD invades Fantasy Springs in Indio
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 15:57:42 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Any reports from Indio?
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 15:48:44 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA
Since we don't have any Indio discussion going yet, I will take this opportunity to say thanks to Ray for your Pechanga observations. Also thanks to nostatic for your invaluable insights and that photo.
After checking out, we stayed around the casino for lunch and a little gambling. At about 12:45 PM we were walking past the coffee stand just to the right of the view in nostatic's photo, and Mrs. GW spotted Jon getting a cup of coffee. I guess the short drive to the next show gave the band some flexibility about their departure time from Pechanga, assuming they traveled as a group. We said thanks for a great show, and talked for a minute or two. Jon mentioned the good sound of the Pechanga showroom as well.
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 12:36:19 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
just watched the porn vid. I have to admit although it may have been a bit unnecessary, it made me clap and laugh! (of course I'm still in my prime age of piggery, 31) At least the poster warned of it being porn. I wonder if the stars of the clip are big enough fans that they visit Bluebook? Could you imagine logging on to see last nights set list, and seeing people argue over your home movie!!! Too funny...
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 12:18:00 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Paulie/ now that was childish.How about we get back to the setlist?
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 12:12:57 ET
Posted by: nostatic, socal
Someone posted a porn link here? Well thank gawd for that...porn is almost impossible to find on your own on the interwebs!
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 11:05:02 ET
Posted by: pauly ,
Hutch "Putting the porn thing up was childish. Pure and simple"
That's a matter of opinion. I like Porn. Keep it cuming!
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 10:35:52 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
J.aydee/ Bravo' It occurs to me since I just turned 50 that Aja does more for me than the porn
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 10:31:31 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Interesting that these occasional snarky digs at the Rajah (to which he responds with an admirable lack of rancour) are generally from anonymous posters such as 'just my opinion'. While I don't always agree with his point of view, the Raj is never less than an upfront contributor, whose knowledge and interpretation of SD's musicality, and much tangential information, is always worth reading, and often enhanced by a well honed turn of phrase - though his current location has resulted in a rather amusing inability to recall the niceties of English spelling !
IMO (H or otherwise), this site would be much diminished by the absence of such a mainstay, 'flying buttress' even, of Dandom.
As for the porn clip - well, 'unnecessary' rather than 'childish' I think. We all know what Aja sounds like, and all know what porn looks like, so worth a mention maybe but hardly worth posting the link.
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 10:24:45 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Hey jmo/ Raj is a pretty knowledgeble SD fan and his biz is his biz'you have every right to post[thanx Hoops] so does Raj' I only get wired up when we get off the subject of SD. A litlle porn or arguments only show we are human and thats ok. I know sometimes I try to be the voice of reason but lets keep it to Herington vs Zing or something comp. Peace out Klaus
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 07:20:26 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Hey just my opinion - Here's my opinion... your opinion sucks! How about that Sparky? Anytime ANYONE posts thoughtful, intelligent posts on this board then it's of benefit to all.
Your post was neither thoughtful or beneficial to the board.
Putting the porn thing up was childish. Pure and simple.
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 07:06:11 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Feel better now?
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 04:40:27 ET
Posted by: near nowhere, was someone once
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/2009/10/16/2009-10-16_will_ferrell_.html
comments to follow stagewise
Date: Sun, October 18, 2009, 02:07:33 ET
Posted by: just my opinion, here
Raja, you are a certified A-Hole. I have always thought that, but the whole "porn clip" thing put me over the edge. What guy doesn't appreciate a nice porn clip. especially with SD playing in the background? Get over yourself. You are no more important/trailblazing/trendsetting than any other Danfan in the world. And wait....Why aren't you in the U.S.A.? Who are you hiding from? many people on here suck up to your every word, but you need to be called out!
Date: Sat, October 17, 2009, 21:54:24 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
nostatic, you're on fire, those were some mesmorizing reads. Thank you.
Date: Sat, October 17, 2009, 21:02:48 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
nostatic - Great posts. Great posts indeed. Love the shot of Mr. Herington. Wouldn't that be a great inside cover photo for their live album coming out this Spring? That is if they HAD a live album coming out this Spring.. or any other time, or maybe they might record a new .... well, you know the routine.
Date: Sat, October 17, 2009, 19:50:58 ET
Posted by: nostatic, socal
Lurker Ray, good to read your comments. I thought it was just me, but I agree that this is the best sound I've heard at any SD show. This is the FIRST time I've actually been able to hear Freddie Washington's bass lines with a lot of focus and articulation in the sound. And he seemed freer and more adventurous. But every instrument not only could be heard (which is typical of their shows), but when it was supposed to be on top of the mix, it occupied that space. Often it seems that Fagan's vocals have to fight the mix to get on top of the sound - not last night. I get the sense that they may have had a better stage mix as well. Whatever the reason, I fell in love all over again. But I wish that Carlock had a proper solo like back in '03.
My pic of the "power trio" (Beard, Herington, Carlock)leaving the casino:
http://nostatic.com/photos/theGuys.jpg
Date: Sat, October 17, 2009, 19:41:35 ET
Posted by: nostatic, socal
fwiw if they played the exact same setlist next year, I'd go see it. The musicianship is exemplary - as good as you'll find. And each show has a different energy and flow. I've seen them in '93, '94, '00 (2x), '03 (2x), '06, '08, '09 (3x). Am I sick of hearing Peg and Josie (played at every show)? No. The nature of live music is such that each performance is unique. Some better than others, and there are interesting ebbs and flows even within a song. Since I'm a musician, I hang on every note and try to feel the subtleties and where they are going. Often I have my eyes closed and am not yelling or hooting (though sometimes I can't contain myself). There are scintillating moments in each show, and often they are in completely different places for completely different reasons. Beard's organ work on multiple tunes last night is an example. I didn't notice it (or it was different) in previous shows. His solo intro to Josie was a beautiful chaotic journey between genres. Herington played a solo sequence early in the set (can't recall which tune) that was so good even he got lost and took a few measures to recompose himself.
The joke goes something like, "I'd pay money to hear DeNiro read the phone book." I'd gladly pay money to hear Fagan sing, growl and stab at the keyboard like he did last night. And hear the horn section add fills and accents that are sublime. Or listen to Herington channeling a half dozen different guitar players while he churns our rhythm licks and solos throughout the night. Live music is unlike any other art form. My g/f is an artist (sculpture and photography). She has been totally taken aback by the SD shows this year. Her take is that she cannot believe that 13 people can get together and do this live on stage. She takes weeks or months to get her pieces right. This band does it on the fly, constantly changing and adapting. It is art.
Date: Sat, October 17, 2009, 19:31:07 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Pechanga 2009 - "Mo'Rent Listening Party - 180 Gram Vinyl"
"Mo'Rent", that's what Don called it Friday night, or "headphone" night at Pechanga. Easily the youngest & hottest crowd out of the 6 shows I have seen so far this year, including 4 in Hollywood. Not surprising, the Fagen solo show was the same way. Nice high back seats with cup holders, more like a modern 1200 seat state of the art movie theater serving popcorn with audio butter. The smallest post modern Steely Dan show EVER? Surprised they fit everyone on stage. Close your eyes and you could pick out EVERYTHING in the mix. Really nice to see them all playing so tightly together. You could really see they enjoyed this venue.
BEST sounding Steely Dan show I have ever witnessed. Would have loved to have heard "Deacon Blue", "Dr Wu" & "Any Major Dude" in this remarkable venue. Guess those will have to wait for San Jose & San Fran.
Adding on to Mr. Winterbottom's fine report, here's some additional observations:
Black Friday - Don singing, "Change my name little girl". Way cool.
Black Cow - In this "acoustic heaven" Carolyn could have actually played an LP. You could hear everything Jim Beard laid down this evening, Donald incorrectly credited, Walt W. instead of Roger Rosenberg, Don joked after, "I should look around more, ya know".
Babylon Sisters - Given the small space, Don could hear EVERYTHING from the crowd last night. Some tool kept yelling for "Babylon Sisters". Once he got it, he yelled back, "I love you!". Classic. The mix & performance last night - you could smell the sea salt. Could easily surpass the Tampa take on AIA, it was that good.
Aja - Really nice to see the nuances of the lighting crew in this small space. It looked like an Aurora Borealis was coming off of Keith & his kit. Oh wait, THERE WAS an Aurora Borealis coming off of Keith and his kit last night.
Josie – Like having Jim Beard playing for you in his living room. Bravo maestro, quite a recital.
Green Earrings – Another highlight, nice surprise. Just masterful, inventive soloing from all involved. And with the setting, JUST PURE EAR CANDY.
My Old School - Another nice surprise. It has not been played a lot this tour, but then again, it's our "Dirty Water". The "Babylon Sisters" finally scrambled to the aisle and were looking for an audience. Oh my. Cindy and the gals loved it. F*ck does it sound great tonight. Jon's harmonic tricks at the end, jaw dropping.
Kid Charlemagne - Every bit as good as the "Plush" version. Sonic joy.
Reelin' In The Years - Jon was amazing. Compared to his take on “My Old School”, too close to call.
Can't wait to comeback in April to see Mark Knopfler!
Date: Sat, October 17, 2009, 19:02:50 ET
Posted by: they have GOT to do better than this setlist, even if it is a casino show
i know its a casino show, blah blah blah. but dontcha think they have used up all of and even the most casual steely dan fans that would attend after three years? what twas the turn out at pechanga and these other casino shows? if they go out again next year they have got to realize that they need some new or different material to get people to keep coming out. this is getting ridiculous especially since they are charging more money every year! there is no way to justify going!
Date: Sat, October 17, 2009, 17:25:00 ET
Posted by: nostatic, socal
Finally back from scenic Temecula. The g/f got us tickets to the Pechanga show for a belated b-day present to me along with a room for the night. We went to the Aja and Royal Scam shows at Gibson (with her first SD show being the previous year at Honda Ctr), so she is now hooked.
First off, the sound in the room was awesome, and we were sitting fairly far left about 12 rows back. Very nice, intimate place. Actually of all the 10 or so shows I've seen over the years, this is the best I've been able to clearly hear Fagan's voice and pull out all the instruments. Other shows have been good, but for whatever reason I found that I was able to hear lead vocals and Herington's guitar work (especially his tasty rhythm stuff) quite well.
The other note is that having a room at a hotel within walking distance to the show is the only way to fly. We rode my motorcycle from LA (about a 3.5 hours trip on a Friday afternoon with a detour over Ortega Hwy), checked in, showered, had a leisurely dinner, then walked to the show.
As for the set, no surprises. Dirty work was just gorgeous. Beard's organ work just elevated the tune to sheer joy. At the LA Royal Scam show both I was floored by Green Earrings, and we both thought that this was the standout of this set as well. Oddly enough they had very different feels. The LA show gave an edgy version, tonight was a bit lighter, but both a wicked fat groove.
In general it was an "up" set. The band seemed relaxed and Fagan was in excellent voice and being on the verge of silly/joking. Becker otoh seemed like he was late for a date or something. In marked contrast to the "you had me at entrails" story on Royal Scam night in LA, instead he was terse and seemed like he wanted to be somewhere else. Maybe it is the rather surreal vibe of the whole Indian gaming site. Pechanga is kind of "Vegas-lite" and is an interesting alternative reality.
The crowd felt energetic where I was, and they were loud and appreciative at the end.
Fun moments: while eating dinner at the seafood place I saw Michael Leonhart walk up and inquire about getting food (this was at a little past 7pm). I didn't get up to bug him, and eventually he walked off to find something quicker. But after the show we were wandering through the casino and I saw him go into the gift shop. We walked up and thanked him for the great show. He was very gracious. Then Jim Beard, Keith (god) Carlock and Jon Herington walked by (Carlock with stick bag on his shoulder, Herington with a guitar in soft gig bag. We walked up and briefly thanked them as well. I think they just wanted to get back to the room but Jon lingered for a bit and was gracious as well. I didn't want to keep them so I thanked them again and they headed off.
I half expected to see Fagan at a slot machine with a handle in his hand but alas, it didn't materialize.
Date: Sat, October 17, 2009, 14:48:21 ET
Posted by: Hank Bordiwitz, Commack,, NY
Speaking of Timothy B. Schmidt of the Eagles...I read that he's playing a rare solo show with his band at the Bitter End in NYC this coming Wednesday, Oct 21. Booked by Mr. Fogel?
Date: Sat, October 17, 2009, 13:55:31 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, DC
Just got 2 tix for the 11/22 Aja+ show at Dar Constitution Hall in DC. Not primo seats, but section N, just off center in the lower part of the balcony. 3700 seat forum, so shouldn't be too far.
Anyone been to this venue? Sound quality? View?
Also, does anyone know whether SD tends to bring their own sound systems to venues, or whether they use what the venue has to offer?
This will be my 9th show since Irvine in 1994, so a couple of observations:
Seen Herington since 2000, and IMHO, he gets better and better with each tour.
Don's pipes have "aged" (though not dramatically), but he and the band have made some wise "adjustments". A little less range, a little more rasp, but all and all, the great DF is still very much the great DF.
Rosenberg is very good and talented; however, I do miss Cornelius' soulful riffs, with his Turrentine vibe.
Beard is first class.
Date: Sat, October 17, 2009, 10:18:52 ET
Posted by: Craig B,
Thanks Gus and Jas
Indio bound
Date: Sat, October 17, 2009, 08:30:49 ET
Posted by: RR Jas, Returned from Pechanga
Very typical setlist as mentioned below. No surprises. We weren't even planning on going but this venue is so perfect for this band. Sat dead center one row behind the mixing board. Perfect sound and view. Seems like each show that we've been to since 2003 featured one of the musicians getting a bit more time in the spotlight. Pechanga was evenly divided. Maybe with Walt Weiskopf edging out the rest. This crowd ranked as the rudest crowd in the 9-10 shows I've seen. We had both exits in plain sight and lots of people getting up for drink/toilet breaks throughout the show. At the same time, we sat next to people who enjoyed the show and stayed inside the theater for the whole set. One nice little bonus after the show was they rerouted 4 traffic lanes down to 1, through a residential area. Have fun in Indio!!!
Date: Sat, October 17, 2009, 05:31:43 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Temecula, CA
Pechanga 10/16/09 Setlist and (brief) Report:
Intro: Teenie's Blues (~8:10 PM)
Black Friday
Hey 19 (No WB discussion)
Black Cow
Dirty Work (Ladies' vocals)
Bodhisattva
Showbiz Kids
Peg
Love Is Like An Itchin' In My Heart/Band Intros
Babylon Sisters
Aja
Daddy Don't Live...(WB vocals)
Josie
Green Earrings
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Encore: Reelin' In The Years ("Original version" in Donald's words)
Outro: Last Tango (~10:00 PM)
I believe that Lurker Ray has been talking about the good acoustics in this venue, and based on what I heard tonight, he is absolutely correct. From where we sat (about 15 feet from the stage, slightly house right of center), the sound was well balanced and clear. I think that the band used the house speakers rather than their own equipment for this show.
Before fatigue compels me to quit, some highlights of tonight's show, IMO:
Black Friday: Jon Herington is on fire for this one.
Black Cow: Very nice solo work by Jim Beard and Roger Rosenberg.
Bodhisattva: Another standout performance by Jon.
Aja: The sublime combination of a stellar performance in a great environment. In particular, Beard's keyboard work early on really stood out tonight.
Green Earrings: This was the best performance of the set; Herington was amazing, and Beard, Rosenberg, and WB all performed superb solos.
Tonight, Cindy Mizelle joined Tawatha and Carolyn for backing vocal duties. They clearly had a great time tonight: lots of dancing during instrumentals.
We and others saw some band members around the casino after the show, since they did not leave immediately for Indio. While Robert O'Donnell, Mrs. GW, and I were chatting in one of the bars near the showroom, Roger Rosenberg walked by. We talked with him for what seemed like 10 minutes.
Out for now...
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 18:46:14 ET
Posted by: kz kz kz, Astroland
Darryl Hall (or is it Oates, whatever) has been broadcasting live shows from his living room for a few years now on the 'net. Free
Tickets for all Late-Night(Letterman, Conan, Kimmel etc)shows. Free
Would not mind paying to see Wally & The Donald host a sketch/improv/music/late night show every week. Have a pay-per-request portion: fans can bid on what song they want to hear after each skit.
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 18:13:03 ET
Posted by: mr parker, socal
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Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 17:18:27 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Hey Raj/ I agree with [I cant tell you why] but One of these nights I still think is one of the classics. Not a huge Eagles fan but must give credit where it is due. Turn up the Eagles the neighbours are listening. I wonder how tounge in cheek that line was/ Did Don and Walt enjoy the Eagles or were they just sport to our guys sense of humour?
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 15:10:29 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Tim Schmidt assisted on vocals, the high harmonies, on Rikki, Green Earrings, lots of songs on Aja notably Josie, the title cut, I think, Home at Last and also on FM. Not sure he ever played bass for them, the credits to Royal Scam notwithstanding. The boys brought him onstage in LA one night, can't recall if it was 2000 or 2003.
One of the only Eagles' tunes I can stomach is his rendering of I Can't Tell You Why. I also enjoyed his contributions to Poco.
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 13:55:21 ET
Posted by: haha, hee hee
jaydee, I love the purity and sensuality of television, but I detest the vulgarity and repulsiveness of re-runs!!!
how dare you even think of posting a link!
;-)
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 13:45:48 ET
Posted by: SaxFan, NY
I noticed that Timothy B. Schmidt of the Eagles is in the credits of the Royal Scam as Bass and Vocals. Does anyone know which songs he played bass or sang on?
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 12:19:26 ET
Posted by: To , Dunleavy
If you don't own any of the DVD-A releases or the "B" sides, definitely yes.
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 12:09:11 ET
Posted by: Will Ferrell, Everything Must Go
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/10/will-ferrell-sold-on-everything-must-go.html
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 11:41:26 ET
Posted by: D Dunlevy,
Hello Dannys -
I have all of DF's 3 solo studio releases. I can get the "Trilogy" used for $30. Is it worth it to purchase?
Thanks -
Dan
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 11:04:30 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Last night's (repeated I'm sure) episode of 'Judge John Deed', starring Martin Shaw as a maverick 'm'lud', featured 'Haitian Divorce' playing in the taxi ('he takes a taxi') used to escort posh married totty to inflagrante assignation at his chambers.
I would attach a link, but might be overstepping the mark !
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 09:54:09 ET
Posted by: Bokchippo,
Hey wondering
Would that be with a Fez on or a Turban?
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 08:45:26 ET
Posted by: hey hey wondering, btw its wrong
lighten up, thanks for the post "hey wondering", a little excitement and porn never killed anyone. It breaks up the "nerdery" that puts me to sleep on here.. and it sounds like you "hey hey" haven't fornicated in quite some time.
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 06:53:32 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Well said, my dear poster, I adore sensuality but I detest vulgarity.
Human sexuality is one of the true magic elements we were endowed with. To cheapen it is unthinkable.
I await a full review of the Pechanga show.
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 03:43:09 ET
Posted by: Hey wondering, BTW it's wrong
I encourage my two kids (young teen and a pre teen) to explore all that is tangential and this is just stupid and not cool. Is this all that you can come (or is it cum) up with for the blue here? If I have to, I can steer people away from this site.
What is it with the modern human obsession with fornication anyway. I mean, every living (fucking) creature does it. Humans, cats, dogs, ants, fish. All of the previous categories also have to shit, piss, eat and breath by necessity. All right already, we all do it. Now, back to civilization (SD?).
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 01:56:22 ET
Posted by: wondering..., if its wrong..
would it be inappropriate to post a link to some tube porn that has Aja album playing in the background? i think it's more than tangentially related..
ok here it is, be forewarned...this is a porn clip...
http://www.keezmovies.com/422629?utm_source=PBWeb&utm_medium=MGP&utm_campaign=PBWeb
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009, 00:35:40 ET
Posted by: suedave, hope they figure out how to reverse hearing loss within the next ten years
Jim, thanks for the info. Makes sense.
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2009, 15:20:50 ET
Posted by: .kzkzkz., N.why?
Ah, the live feed; great idea. Pay-per-Dan. Nobody sitting next to you that doesn't shut the heck up the entire show. Nobody annoying you as they leave for a beer during a song. Nobody annoying you as they return, spilling said beer on you during a song. Last month, Todd Rundgren performed his classic album "A Wizard, A True Star" live in a handful of cities. For 20 bucks fans not in these select few east coast locales were able to order the event live from either the opening nights in Akron or the penultimate sets in Chicago. The opening act for this concert was Todd's Utopia appearing live for the first time in nearly 20 years. I'm sure many fans shelled out money for a few of these concerts, even if they attended a show or 2+ themselves. I for one would happily pay for multiple SD gigs. At least one each of the album nights and a request gig too. I'd still watch my fair share of youtube clips, but as good/bad as some of them are (including mine) the Buying a Thrill of seeing live material in high quality footage Can't be beat. They should offer several packages for fans : an album pack, a request only, one lp + request, all of one album pack (all Aja/RS shows) for the tour, any 2-5-10 shows and of course the Unlimited Golden ticket package. They could stream it via their site and have you log in for each event. Offer backstage and rehearsal footage too. Especially now that they are mixing things up on this tour, it just makes sense (cents).
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2009, 13:51:48 ET
Posted by: Tale of the Tape, in
I remember reading when Big World came out that Jackson had too much material for one LP but not enough for two, hence three sides (obvious, I know). He insisted that it be priced as a single LP.
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2009, 12:09:59 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
I'll back you up on that Take of the Tape. In an interview (Rolling Stone ?) around the time of 2vN, I think Walter is quoted as questioning why there are audio cassettes of the album being sold, does anyone buy cassettes any more? I had the cassette and I remember one side being longer than the other, but I can't remember if it was after Almost Gothic or WOH.
There was also an LP version of 2vN--I own a copy--but as I recall, there was something at the SD website about D+W having not approved the LP master.
EMG was out on LP but not on cassette, CD and CD+DVD versions, and DVD-Audio, no SACD. The LP split sides between Slang and Green Book.
I don't think any solo Walter Becker album has been on vinyl.
Morph The Cat came out in an approved vinyl version. Sounds great and there's even gatefold art work that I have not seen in the CD--maybe it's part of the DVD-A bonus material. The thing about the MTC LP is that is spread out over two 12" discs. Great that they didn't squish the grooves together, but I can't help but wish they didn't do what they did on Joe Jackson's "Big World": Three sides with a fourth blank album side.
Who else has something to add to this?
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2009, 11:55:36 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
HouDanFan: No Texas dates, but with tours now being an open check of dates, I'd wager it's coming up again in the new year.
SueDave: I wondered this too starting back about 20 years ago when the Grateful Dead signed their shows, and to make a long story short, I found that the hearing impaired aren't always 100% deaf; but beyond that, they can literally feel the vibrations of the music, enjoy the physical activity on state, and have learned to appreciate the concert experience in other ways such as that. Most of all, they want to be part of a normal life with friends and family and even be part of the post-show conversation as much as possible.
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2009, 11:13:49 ET
Posted by: Tale of the tape, in
I owned the TVN cassette as my car at the time didn't have a CD player. Same sequence as the CD, Jack of Speed started side two. I remember looking for a cassette of EMG but couldn't find it. Probably wasn't released.
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2009, 10:51:47 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy
Mornin'
I'm not familiar with album/cassette versions of TVN nor EMG, so if these were played live in proper order, which would be sweet, when would the record be flipped? I'm thinking between Almost Gothic and Jack o' Speed and Slang and Green Book.
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2009, 08:53:39 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston
I haven't been keeping up much here but has anyone heard if the tour is eventually going through Texas or is this it? Fortunately, I will be in Phoenix for other biz the week they are there, but I can't imagine them not at least doing Dallas. Can anyone here enlighten me on the Dodge Theater in Phoenix? Looks like a cool venue.
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2009, 08:28:45 ET
Posted by: Denise, heading up into the light
SueDave & Mike, thanks for your reports. Wish I could go to one of these west coast shows.
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2009, 08:28:41 ET
Posted by: Denise, heading up into the light
SueDave & Mike, thanks for your reports. Wish I could go to one of these west coast shows.
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2009, 00:36:34 ET
Posted by: suedave, it's raining
Hello one and all,
I'm not sure why the hearing impaired would go to a concert, but yep, the signer's were great (there were two who took turns). I liked one more than the other because he was so animated, and personally, I think that unless he studied the lyric sheets, he must have told some tall tales. Yes, he mimed piano solos, played air guitar, seemed to be able to indicate when it got hot - yes, I too was frequently entertained by their antics! and now I know the sign for Divorce (pretty obvious, really).
I have a slightly different version of the set list from the Royal Scam night in Seattle than the others I've seen, here it is
Teenies Blues
Kid C
Caves
DTMA
Sign in Stranger
The Fez
totally smokin' Green Earrings with WB and JH trading fours
Haitian Divorce
Everything You Did
the majestic Royal Scam
Hey 19
Dirty Work
Black Friday where the girls got out of formation and grooved to song
IGTN
Aja
Daddy Don't Live in that NYC No Mo' (Walter sings)
Itchin & intros
Show Biz Kids
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Encore
Reeling 72
Closing/tango
I'd also say that the reports about the bass not being mixed well are a result of having the wrong seats (like anyone has any control of that). I must have been sitting in the sweet spot 'cause it was one of the few shows I've attended where I got to pick out the bass so well.
I'm jealous of any of you who are going to Pechanga. That place is audio HEAVEN.
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 23:32:27 ET
Posted by: MikeA, Seattle
Ray--I was on the same side as the sign language guy. I neglected to mention his schtick, sorry! In addition to signing the lyrics, he mimed solos as well, Jim Beard's opening to Josie comes to mind..The dude was really animated and I started tripping on him instead of the music for a bit. He probably should have opened for the Sam Y. trio. That would make it a triple bill show!
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 23:09:38 ET
Posted by: Nwk, , 24/7, nationwide
Name that artist. It's time to name that artist based upon this scenario:
Ugh, yeal, so like I'm digging through my vinyl and come across some disco that I never could wrap my head around, and I don't think I ever REALLY listened to it, but was lost for almost thirty years in my collection, And I noticed that I had two albums by the same artist--one album with an 10 min. song and its longer remix on the flipside, say; and on the other album are simply two separate songs--one song really sort of blows being elementary, the other song is not memorable to me at present.
The two disco albums were simply sold in a clear vinyl or plastic sleeve wit' an arrow decal on one, and shockingly, the vinly sleeve marred the patina of the vinyl's sheen--the record look really spotted like agate or some kind of marble but they played fine. I have to store them better.
Anyway, the music was early 80's and I think the artist played most of the instruments and sang, )maybe with some back up singers, maybe horns), but anyway it was some of the dirtiest music I ever listened to, but one theme in the music has to do with all the colors of people need to mix, along these lines. Then the bugger had the nerve to play a God-card or reference the Lord somehow. I guess good sex can make one feel in touch with the divine. I found the music to be quite ahead of its time and excellent background music for pilates, which somehow became sexy and well, I'm staying in shape--one song i think has the word "slam" in it. I am trying hard to get into those songs, but I appreciate them better because of Steely Dan. haha
IT'S TIME TO NAME THAT ARTIST. Please don't bother to GUESS out loud; it's just a little amusement while waiting our turn for the TOWER. Newark
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 22:57:59 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Gotta love the Tower of Power horn section.
Funny thing, though. I saw Richard Elliot and his band once at Slims in SF (I think that's where it was) and he really sucked. All posing and little of the soul he exhibited with the ToP. He was almost as bad as Clarence Clemons when he toured with a band.
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 22:30:33 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, San Francisco
Went to see Tower of Power this past Saturday. What a horn section! Amazes me everytime i see them.
Maybe not as clean and technical as SD's section, but would give them a run nonetheless. I'm sure they must be a mutual admiration society.
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 21:52:43 ET
Posted by: Lonnie THE Kingpin, En route to Temecula, baby!
Hello one and all ~~
Steely Dan tangential, eh? Al Martino? What the . . . ??!! While "Sadness" aka Kind of Blue is at it, how about Cap'n Lou Albano since we are not remotely talking about Steely Dan.
Let's get back to all things Dan or kinda Dan! Damn, son!
Lonnie (of '65)
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 21:02:51 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Ray,
I'm wondering if the sign language interpreter was there with a group of hearing impaired audience members. That blogger may have just been in a section near where the group was sitting. That would account for the absence of it being mentioned previously.
I have to admit to an immature chuckle when I read that, though. There is something amusingly odd about having Dan lyrics signed, IMO.
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 18:04:19 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks for the report Mike.
How come no one told us
about the hearing-impaired
Sign Language Interpreter
at the shows? Very cool.
Adds new meaning when they
played, "Sign In Stranger"
last night.
Also enjoyed the reviewer's
take on "Deacon Blues".
Sure wish they would play it
more.
"I crawl like a viper/Through these suburban streets/Make love to these women/Languid and bittersweet...Drink Scotch whiskey all night long/And die behind the wheel"
-Don Draper
A Steely Dan "Live Feed"?
Never gonna happen.
"Live Feeds" are a bootlegger's
wet dream. And we all know how
D&W feel about that.
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 17:23:50 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo
"No reason to trash Cleveland or Pittsburgh, IMO. Both are good, honest places to live, IMO. I'll add Buffalo and Milwaukee to the list, too. Great people, good bars, plenty of local music and terrific food at affordable prices."
Love Cleveland and of course love the homefront, Buffalo. Thanks for the love, Dean.
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 17:17:29 ET
Posted by: wazza, Los Angeles, CA
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Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 14:55:07 ET
Posted by: Steely Dan, via satellite
Just like "the real GJ" I find NYB:s idea of sending the shows via satellite to the rest of the world a tempting example of where we're going.
Saw Genesis live from Germany a couple of years ago in a small almost-town in Sweden thanks to that very idea: Pay the ticket price, get a pre-show dinner and then watch the whole thing onscreen with fine pic and sound. The way to go for ageing people with money.
Must make sense and should be looked into by Irv. But I guess he already has.
Don, Walt and the band could play 10, 20 whatever shows at a limited number of places and have them live via satellite to the world.
It's not live ... but close enough. And prime prices could be charged.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, you know
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 13:28:04 ET
Posted by: Joeys Uncle, Colorado Correctional Center
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 11:57:37 ET
Posted by: Paul,
What the fuck does Al Martino have to do with Steely Dan????
For that matter why the fuck does a debate about Cleveland and Pittsburgh belong here? Why does anyone even respond to that crappp!?
That's why only 5 people post here anymore.
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 12:57:52 ET
Posted by: Yes, He Did
http://tinyurl.com/yhknp4e
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 12:56:13 ET
Posted by: Steely Dan - Al Martino, Links
Didn't William Burroughs complain that Steely Dan had proverbial horses heads all over the place?
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 12:28:53 ET
Posted by: MikeA, Seattle
Review from last night....
http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/2009/10/last_night_steely_dan_royally.php
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 12:13:55 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
"What the fuck does Al Martino have to do with Steely Dan?"
Well, one of Al's biggest hits is his English-language cover version of "L'amour est bleu."
"Love is Blue" -- so is this forum...the "Blue" part, that is. The jury's still out on the "Love" part, given the disposition of a few of the posters.
So there...
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 11:57:37 ET
Posted by: Paul,
What the fuck does Al Martino have to do with Steely Dan????
For that matter why the fuck does a debate about Cleveland and Pittsburgh belong here? Why does anyone even respond to that crappp!?
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 11:31:27 ET
Posted by: Sadness, take my horse, please
RIP, Al Martino.
"How will kids 20 and 30 years from now know what romance is?"
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 10:55:58 ET
Posted by: Craig B.,
Gus W. of Torrance
Could you please email me. I have a question to ask
Thanks
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 10:00:51 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
They could even do it a little like the NFL - no live feed available unless 85% (or whatever) of the tickets for the live event are sold. And, hey, I'm throwing that in for free.
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 09:38:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Mike,
Thanks for the update.
Like you, I love hearing the new tunes mixed in the live shows. Godwhacker and Two Against Nature fit in quite nicely...very organic. I suspect nearly all the newer tunes would.
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 05:28:22 ET
Posted by: MikeA, Seattle
Hey Hey--It was a riproaring show at the Paramount tonight! Crowd was loud and awesome. Not much room to dance around here but I estimate 4 or 5 extended standing O's. Don did a lot more waving and pointing to all of us folks than I have personaly ever seen from him. Walt said we were a great F'in audience more than a few times. Great vibes all around.
My best effort at a recap. (Songs are probably not in order)
Sam Y. trio opened up to a decent response. i thought he did some cool stuff. He also went to the lobby afterward to autograph his CD.
Intro:Teenie's Blues
Royal Scam Album
--As I have noticed before, Don sometimes takes a few songs to get rolling vocally. For Kid and Caves he was "off" IMHO
--Jim Beard blew me away on Sign in stranger. He is a real nice fit with this band and I am glad to see him again.
--Green Earings found Jon and Walter dueling it out with the solos. Walt had one real agressive run which really kicked ass. His tone and riffs were a real departure for him.
--Everything You Did had a new arrangement from years past. Seemed like a combo swing/ballad feel. I could dig it...
--Fez: DF & WB walked off (as usual from what I have read) No problem, the band, especially the girls, handled it fine and then some.
Royal Scam is a real guitar album and it seemed that Jon took most of the solos with WB hangin back quite a bit. I was a little concerned but Walt came out smokin later on.
Album over to massive applause.....
Dirty Work--my wife's favorite and done well. Girls were extremely "on" throughout the show especially on this tune
Hey 19 (no pandering story:) I normally would rather not hear this one, but it really had a great groove going on tonight.
AJA--Typical tour de force,how can you leave it out? Carlock tighter than ever !! Sax solos hit the marks
Peg--Solid, but not steller tonight
Josie--Walter soloed a bunch and he had it goin' on.Black Friday
Black Friday--had a Texas bluses type vibe (cool)
I got the News--another highlight and one of 4 Aja songs played
My old school--crowd pleaser and Jon was especially tasty.
Show Bizness Kids
Iching in my heart/Intro--DF received a thundering response when he came back for his intro. WB always does a smooth and cool job with the intros.
Daddy w/ Walter---he sounded just fine to me on this although he was dropping the last word in some lines. Pointed to his watch in the line: "got to see a joker but I'll be right back" (funny)
Encore
Reelin--I thought they smoked this one big time. Don and Jon nailed it all the way through.
Last Tango--Always like this one....
Jon H. gets better and better everytime I see him. He is a monster! Jon has mastered many different techniques and styles yet he has developed his own original signature. When he improvs, he always has a trick up his sleeve. One of the most tastfull guitarists I have ever seen or heard, very inventive. Wish I could play like him....
Donald was in fine voice mostly but he seemed to tire out at some points. I think they would like to play another song in the encore but I think Don is spent sometimes. He also changes phrasing and accents from the original recordings which is cool. However, he sometimes lays over too long on a vocal passage and runs in to the next line. I mostly like what he is going for, but sometimes it sounds odd.
There were a few mixing/acoustical problems: One of Walter's solos was not audible for the first half, then someone kocked up the fader and he was panned center and loud. Freddie's bass was total mud, notes were frequently not discenable. You could resolve the notes only when he did an isloated solo piece.
I saw no Donald cig stunts, but it does appear he has a product placement deal with Coca Cola:)
All in all, one of the best SD shows I have seen and I have seen a bunch since 1993. Sure, I would like to hear more of the newer tunes as I think most of these are really strong, however, this tour feels good. Wish I was going south for the Cali shows.....
Maybe next tour, they can hold an internet vote for songs the attendees would NOT want to hear. That might be interesting eh?
Well, it's 2:25am on a work night, but I think I owed a show recap because of all your great posts. Goodnight or good morning or whatever it is now....
Date: Wed, October 14, 2009, 04:50:50 ET
Posted by: Rajah, Roma
The Seattle review as posted on here was very fine. Dirty Work is trickier than you might think, especially now that it's been switched to the ladies. Singing Dirty Work takes a strong hold on that melody, the singer leads on this one, even the drummer is buried. Frank would've done a bang-up job on Dirty Work.
Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Cincy, Indianapolis, great towns to be from, good and decent folks but ultimately impossible to bear for a young person. It's a big world, and there comes a time to get out of town.
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 21:39:00 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
No reason to trash Cleveland or Pittsburgh, IMO. Both are good, honest places to live, IMO. I'll add Buffalo and Milwaukee to the list, too. Great people, good bars, plenty of local music and terrific food at affordable prices.
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 21:29:37 ET
Posted by: Seattle Review, II
Pretty observant recap of last night's show.
http://lineout.thestranger.com/lineout/archives/2009/10/13/can-buy-a-thrill-steely-dan-paramount-theater
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 21:24:26 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Tonight's show at the Paramount is actually the 4th time Steely Dan has performed there. After their very first live show opening for the James Gang in 1972, they played the Paramount in May of 1974.
Lucky for us, Dinky Dawson recorded the show to cassette and it is one of my favorite bootlegs from the 1974 tour.
It's an amazing mix for 1974 and probably the best mixed boot from the 1974 tour. Walter is a rock-steady dirty lowdown badass on the bass.
The opening MC is some British douche, who says, "Ladies & gentlemen, here by popular demand with great expense to the management, you may like them, personally I don’t, from Los Angeles, California, Steely Dan".
Skunk later mocks this tool with a fake a British accent uttering “Well done” after a Donald announcement. And then bringing it back when he sings "My Old School".
After a blistering version of “The Boston Rag” you hear Donald say,
"Skunk you got some fans in the front"
Skunk replies, "F#ckin-A Pisser Man". Then you hear some guy yell,
"Go Back To California!" Can’t tell if this is an angry fan of another band or if his date is paying too much attention to Skunk and perhaps his tight silver pants.
So did they headline that night or open for somebody?
Donald, already tired of singing the hits goes on to say, "You might remember this song, it has great meaning for us. I can’t tell you the profundity that springs in my breast every time I utter the lyrics to this number". They launch into the one of the best versions of "Do It Again" that you will ever hear.
Don: "This next song was conceived with the expressed intent to inspire terror in a large mass of people". Double drum onslaught of Hodder and Pocaro. "King Of The World" lays waste to Joe Jackson’s live version.
Don at the grand, "I’d like to establish a groove", before Rikki and then "Pretzel Logic" is epic.
"Reeling ’74" smokes anything we have heard this year including London and "Show Biz Kids" laughs at what we heard so far this year.
Mike, you will never see "them" play the "Fez" live. They won't be on stage.
Coming to the Historic 1200 Seat Pechanga show? Better have tickets. It's been sold out for weeks...
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 19:55:02 ET
Posted by: seth 2112, cleveland, via nyc, and tampa
fagan's dad did live in beachwood, he unfortunetly passed away two years ago. for the kid from pittsburgh to say his town is better than cleveland is like saying "i like the swine flu better than a cold!"
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 19:16:58 ET
Posted by: Rajah, Roma
MikeA - I look forward to your review, give us all the little details.
Hoops, you got some big brass balls. Quiet but strong. I tip my Turban to you, son. Truly.
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 18:13:01 ET
Posted by: MikeA, Seattle
I may have a real accurate report from tonight's show due to the fact I'll be stone cold sober. On the other hand, I seemed to do ok while buzzed in years past:)
ANYWAY,am getting REAL amped up for the Dan gig tonight. 1st of the year for me. Good thing it's indoors because of the rain and cold. Although last summer at the winery we got soaked in the middle of summer (oh well).
Can't wait for Royal Scam. Never saw them play the Fez before.
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 17:17:04 ET
Posted by: roamer101, pdx
Last nights Seattle show was a spectacular opener for the 2nd leg of the tour. You could tell that they hadn't played for a month and had a lot of energy built up. They were on all night.
Aja was riveting and it was great to finally see it played live and in it's entirety. The crowd was really into it and the whole vibe was huge the entire night. Definitely worth driving the 200 miles from OR to see!
The false start on Dirty Work was very surprising. Didn't seem like it was staged because the whole band kind of had a bewildered look on their faces. Very unusual to see Donald stop a song and then start it again from the beginning. It seemed to me like it was pointed at Jon Herington though (gimme an "A")...
Does anyone know if Donald did this at any of the other shows on this tour??
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 16:38:36 ET
Posted by: Joey ,
" A little early morning entertainment: "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2iPhS2XSnk
My 'Nizzle !!!!
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 16:29:50 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Thanks for the report & set list
Sue! I take it, there was not
an opening act?
The "James Gang" story just brought
everything FULL CIRCLE. Joe Walsh
was down front for the opening night
of "Aja" in LA!
That just confirms that friendship
probably goes back before the Eagles.
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 15:21:54 ET
Posted by: doug, vancouver
aren't you Royal Scammers glad tonight's show isn't at an open air venue? see you there (or at the steak joint with the supposed stupid name)
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 14:56:00 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Couldn't have said it better Hoops!
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 14:41:12 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Thanks for coming through as always, Sue!
Regarding the login/password thread, yes, there is a lot of abuse, especially over the weekend, but as expected, that has passed.
Anonymity has been key to info sharing here. Although there is maybe one anon golden nugget posted for every dozen trash posts by wimps, it is often worth it.
Gate keeping and filtering with login / password has been employed here in the past such that the poster still remains anonymous to those reading the board, but it can be tedious to admin.
While I maintain or have maintained several phpBB forums (think the current format of StAl's Yellow Book), it tends to cut down on activity.
In addition to the Blue Book, I also facilitate another totally un-related forum that operates in an identical fashion except for one aspect: the posts don't appear until they are screen for "fart" spams and the like. Now 99% of things appear there--even things I hate, since I get to respond, etc.
So if things came down to it, we could proceed in that fashion. Anonymity is preserved--it's just that they don't appear until the staff of screeners approve. It actuaqlly works quoite well in practice. It's worked well in that other forum for three years straight. But really, real time posting is what we all want. Some of you need to cut the unnecessary nastiness--and very lame attempts at cleverness--and behave like decent people.
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 14:26:59 ET
Posted by: TMS, Seattle
Suedave: Thanks for the set list and comments. I'll be attending this evening's "TRS" show and will be happy to post tonight's set if doesn't appear tomorrow. Wondering about the opener? Anyone catch it last night?
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 13:34:25 ET
Posted by: seattle, review
http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/2009/10/the_shine_in_your_japan_the_sp.php
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 13:21:25 ET
Posted by: Bob's yer Uncle, Minneapolis
"They never mix up the freaking set list...EVER!!" Yes that is true, but at least they played a few more songs.
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 12:56:40 ET
Posted by: Jaydee, London
Great to see a show report again - thanks ! And 'Reelin '72' is fine by me, otherwise I'd be left wondering 'which version?'.
As well as the James Gang, early 70s SD apparently also opened for Brit heavy rockers 'Uriah Heep', Dutch prog-rockers 'Focus' and UK's leading glam-rockers 'Slade'. Anyone here get to see any of these remarkable appearances? Would have loved to see Dan plus Heep, as the Heep were my fave band way back when, and proved to be jolly nice chaps when my first band, as callow sixteen year olds, tentatively crept backstage at Felixstowe Pier Pavilion - we even got to bash on their gear as the roadies packed up.
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 11:49:10 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Suedave:
Thanks for the set list and observations from last night.
Sounds like a great show !
Going again tonight??
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 11:32:59 ET
Posted by: Lefty, US
As the band has made a distinction between the two, even playing both in the same show, deal with it for now.
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 10:53:34 ET
Posted by: any1else?, here
Eye 4 1 am sick of people posting the song as Reelin '72.
It's just Reelin. period. or Reelin' In The Years. Period.
or RITY. Period.
All other versions can be noted as such i.e. slow version, hip-hop version, bluesy, jazzy etc. I understand when it was first played as such this tour to make note that it was the original version. but that's it. No more. OK???!!!.
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 10:42:52 ET
Posted by: Bernie,
"nice to be at opening nights"?? They never mix up the freaking set list...EVER!!
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 09:43:00 ET
Posted by: Bob's yer Uncle, Minneapolis
Wow, 23 songs including intro - outro's...nice to be at opening nights.
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 08:54:28 ET
Posted by: NOBELL,
Great updates
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 08:25:26 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Suedave,
Thanks for the summary. Wish I could have been there, too.
In the early 70's (when I was in high school), every local band worth a shit played "Walk Away". The better ones also attempted a little Yes and Steely Dan. Only one or two dared to play Dancing Madly Backwards (On A Sea Of Air). :#)
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 07:12:47 ET
Posted by: H,
Excuse me. Meant to say dropped the key to D
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 07:11:53 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
A little early morning entertainment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2iPhS2XSnk
And early morning education:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWJ11H4TdbI
(Don had already decided to drop the key to E)
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 05:30:38 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Sue, thank you, we can always count on the proven and tested soldiers of the Blue to...come through.
Opening for the James Gang? Wow, how things turn around. Funk 49 and Walk Away, still decent rock songs. Oh, did I mention they're from Cleveland? They played my high school, "mixers," as the Jesuits used to call them. Cause see, we were an all male high school at St. Ignatius (famous for its multiple USA Today National HS Football Championships, thank you) but we could bring girls from other Catholic schools to the dance. But when we'd dance, you had to leave room for the, "Holy Spirit." No bumping or grinding, stop that you nasty children...demerits all around.
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 04:23:56 ET
Posted by: suedave, Live from Seattle, hardly a grey hair in sight
An early morning post for some of you, I guess it is for me too.
It was a fun show tonight at the Paramount - from where I sat, the crowd was into it, and very excited. I've heard other thing from other folks, but I was sitting with happy people who sang along (and didn't drown out Fagen). Here's the setlist
Intro - Teenies Blues, me grinning ear to ear
Girls enter the stage wearing short black sparkly dresses, B&F enter the state, crowd stands. Carolyn starts the album and they begin Aja
Black Cow, Jim Beard a standout
Aja, Walt Weispkof stellar
Deacon Blues, Fagen great voice. Drums high in the mix, so is the bass. I kinda like it.
Peg, crowd pleaser...Jon H. yummy solo
Home @ last, WB solo
IGTN
Josie, new funk by WB, the crowd loves WB
Standing Ovation
Fagen mentioned that their first show was opening for the James Gang at this theater
Black Friday
TOOM
Daddy Don't Live (WB vocals)
Bodhisattva - Jon Herington introduced nice new solo in this one
Babylon Sisters
Lovely funky version of Show Biz Kids
Hey 19 (no story)
Dirty Work, false start. Fagen asks Jim Beard for an A, so they can play it harmonically elegantly, he gives it to him and they play
Dirty Work, girls vocals
Itchin/Intros - this band had Janice Pendarvis instead of Catherine Russell
Do It Again
DTMA
My Old School, standing O, Walter big smile
Kid C
Encore
Reelin' 72
Closing/Last Tango
Nice catching up with the Seattle regulars.
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 03:33:43 ET
Posted by: Arnold84,
You can ask what type of assessments the school is planning on using and what kind of results the assessments could produce. ,
Date: Tues, October 13, 2009, 02:28:34 ET
Posted by: KD, on-lo
Listen,
off the top of my head, the famous "Change of the Guard" features a tambo. There have to be others, right?
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009, 23:23:21 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
looking forward to hear any details on tonight's set list... wonder if the "plus" content is gonna switch up much for the second leg...
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009, 21:53:33 ET
Posted by: Listen while I play, the green one
Has ever the tambourine been heard on a SD, Becker, or Fagen release?
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009, 21:04:40 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Apparently, The Paramount Theatre
has a history of "opening tours"
& providing artists a place to
hoan material -
"During one memorable week in April 1935, the Marx Brothers performed their stage version of 'A Night at the Opera,' testing jokes on Seattle’s audiences for possible use in the movie, released later that year. Tickets for the Marx Brothers show, which The Paramount presented three times a day, cost 25 to 55 cents."
"Opening Night of 'Spawn of the North', which won an Oscar for special effects in 1938 was hosted at the Paramount and one of its stars, John Barrymore, and his sister, Ethel, attended, making a live presentation from the stage."
"Madonna’s first stop on her first world tour in 1985, aptly named 'The Virgin Tour', was the Paramount. A three night run."
CooL Factor?
Bruce Lee was once an usher at the theatre.
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009, 18:50:23 ET
Posted by: Bob, sleepless in Seattle
psyched for Leg 2!!!!
sets list postings and comments on "the band" and Donald please........
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009, 17:35:20 ET
Posted by: ALL KNOWING WUNTUN,
G. Jetson, Mr. Spacely & ALL of his other Hanna-Barbera aliases is the same "loose meat" creep hoops "erased" from the Blue earlier this summer.
Why do you hang here if you hate Donald so much?
Once a lonely douche bag, always a lonely douche bag.
Did your tiny brain REALLY think we couldn't see through you?
....Translation: You make the board suck.
Looking forward to the reports from opening night of Leg 2!
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009, 11:32:46 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
Thanks, Tori.
At the time it happened, not too long after the beginning of the 2007 tour, more than a couple of well-wishing and well-intending people posted about it here on the BlueBook. At that time, they were gracious enough to understand also understand when they were taken down, just to allow Donald and his family some respectful privacy. I can't emphasize how much I appreciate posters' understanding in situations like that. Now that it's a bit in the past--at least for us, clearly I'm not speaking for Donald and his family--it bears some respectful mention in passing when called for, as Tori has done.
--------------
Donald and Walter's way of snarkiness is under the radar and very often funny. More than a few posts from the past two or three days confuse that with out-right body slams and clichéd nastiness that are that lame stereotypes and probably funny only to the writer's inflated ego. In short, some of you who post would make great fodder for a Steely Dan song.
--------------
Will be finishing an updated "Danfest Stimulous Page" for Leg II.
It seems that many are intimidated by this "Danfest" term, thinking all sorts of preps and events need to be planned. The result is that some Danfests have been late to organize--if at all-- resulting from hesitant planning, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So the new page will be simplified--and let's call them "meet ups", reserving the term "Danfests" for the big get togethers with show girls, rented yachts, and sexual escapades as the group preference bewills.
Gotta run...more laters.
Jim
P.S. Paul, Steve and others who have written me privately have points that are well taken...will respond later.
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009, 10:54:46 ET
Posted by: Tori97, The Lone Star State
Hi again,
Apparently, I am even more technologically challenged than usual this morning- sorry about previous messy attempt at a hyperlink taht didn't take! (first timer and all):
Website Link:
http://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/articles/2007/05/25/life_cycles/deaths/obituaries/fagen0525.txt
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009, 10:51:18 ET
Posted by: Tori97, The Lone Star State
Hi there,
I'm a long time Dan Fan, and lurker of this site, first time poster!
To answer W. Allerton's question, DF's father, Jerry Fagen, passed away in 2007. I have a good friend who is from the Cleveland, and he passed the obit notice to me from the Cleveland Jewish News:
<p> <a href="http://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/articles/2007/05/25/life_cycles/deaths/obituaries/fagen0525.txt">"Jerry Fagen's Obituary from Cleveland Jewish News" </a></p>
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009, 10:06:49 ET
Posted by: the real, hey zeus
beware of false hey zeuses.
that guy doesn't speak for me.
screw him if he wants to be in a cult that prays to our slave masters.
HEY ZEUS
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009, 09:42:28 ET
Posted by: W. Allerton,
Paul -
You make reference to DF's "late" parents. I know his mom passed away in '03. But, when did his dad pass on?
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009, 09:31:59 ET
Posted by: pauly ,
Steve & Paul - In theory you guys are right about having to "sign in" for this guestbook. But not only would you get rid of these anons,you would also loose people posting some pretty cool inside information. Not worth it in my opinion. I say either deal with it,or scroll!
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009, 08:49:12 ET
Posted by: Dick, Ballantine
Raj - how does that "Radio Dinner" taste? No doubt, only the folks from the midwest will get this.
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009, 03:26:14 ET
Posted by: Rajah, lost my high school ring in the Flats
I'm a Cleveland boy, haven't been back in 38 years but, alas, home is where the heart is and I'm afraid mine's still in Cleveland.
Now let's get back to the topic. Who's reporting on the first show of Leg II?
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 23:42:15 ET
Posted by: Dick Goddard, North Coast
I always wondered if Teahouse on the Tracks was about the Cleveland Flats section. A tour boat called the Goodtime runs on the river through it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flats
I believe his parents lived in Beachwood, an affluent suburb.
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 23:12:24 ET
Posted by: Paul, Upstate
BTW; The rest of Donald's family, including his late parents are citizens of Cleveland. It's where Donald spends more than a few holidays.
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 23:11:02 ET
Posted by: Paul, Upstate
I am totally onboard for the Blue Book having a login or post approval format. It's pretty clear it's a handful of people ruining it for everybody else. Just it might be too late to bring back those who have left. This is about the only forum that doesn't do it. Time to weed out those wimps who hide behind anonymity. Only jerks who've got something to hide are worried. People would post a lot more responsibly.
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 20:57:39 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Relax Steve/ we do this every day
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 20:52:29 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Clerveland
Very excited about Leg 2 and plotting and scheming to dermine how to dovetail my mundane travel plans with a 'Dan DeTour'!!!
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 20:19:47 ET
Posted by: ALL KNOWING, FROM THE BURNING BUSH
YES.....THERE WILL BE KNOW OTHER MORE INTIMATE:
http://www.lydiacornell.com/images/stage.jpg
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 20:15:48 ET
Posted by: Steve, Cleveland
Hoops:
I think it's time to put a login and password on this place...or at least moderate the posts. People who like to hear themselves talk have pretty much turned those with something to say away.
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 19:29:03 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Hey Raj/ Every A frame had your number on the wall; just saying.
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 15:28:29 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Klaus, jawing on about the existence of God on here only shows that we've made the leap from the mundane to the eternal. Long live Blue for that, some very thoughtful people on here with powerful insights.
Me, I believe in the Cosmic Muffin, not the Hairy Thunderer.
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 12:39:54 ET
Posted by: Hey, Zeus, Up there, way up there
Don't believe in G-d, eh? Well, Jimmy does not believe in you either!
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 11:37:02 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the rooster, ohio
Leg 2 of the tour/ thank the Lord; oops dont want to get buried in that discussion. What the hell? a board about music and we are debating the existance of a creator. Cmon you guys lighten up. I am sure there is a God/ how else would you explain the talent of a Don and Walt?
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 07:36:29 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Maestro Foreskin, bravo, bravissimo.
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 06:37:01 ET
Posted by: Scouser, Tonyland
Love ya Raj
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 05:14:33 ET
Posted by: Foreskin Inspector, Ben Gurion Int'l Airport men's room
Rajah: Just took a very quick listen to the two tunes while sitting at my piano:
Dr. Wu is in G major.
Hey Nineteen is in D major in the verse and modulates to F# minor in the chorus (the intro is also in F# minor). I didn't listen through the whole song, so it could modulate again, but going from memory, I don't think it does.
Basically, the two songs are in completely different keys.
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 04:42:49 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Foreskin, the Magnificent Rajah bows to your higher knowledge. You just took me to school. I thank you. We need more of you around here.
The Musicologists I've studied are from centuries ago, Alexander Etienne Choron, Francios Joseph Fetis, a bit of Carl Dahlhaus. Of the moderns, David Cope is challenging, I don't know what he's getting at most of the time. But ignorance needs to be confronted, yes?
So, a request for you, Maestro Foreskin, give us a lesson on that difference that I hear between Dr. Wu and Hey 19.
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 03:44:23 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,
Hutch, Rajah: You may want to listen to the "new" release of the "demos" to the follow-up in 1993 to Jordan the Comeback, considered by many to be Prefab Sprout's ultimate masterpiece, Let's Change the World with Music..........and reconsider ;)
Paddy McAloon recorded these songs preparing for recording - Sony began to interfere (perhaps the spiritual nature?) and this set was shelved. A different vector was taken on Andromeda Heights, but this album may contain the best host of tunes the gifted McAloon has ever written:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gxHcNtzFrU&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYN1E8MAkWw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dq_v5kZeEM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW6HOEjerCE&feature=related
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 02:05:47 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Paris Match sounds like Florida Room + Swing Out Sister. Very nice, slick jazzy. Kamakiriad-like horns.
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 02:03:08 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Paris Match sounds like Florida Room + Sister Sister. Very nice, slick jazzy. Kamakiriad-like horns/
Date: Sun, October 11, 2009, 01:48:15 ET
Posted by: Foreskin Inspector, Ben Gurion Int'l Airport men's room
Rajah, I'm not sure that I do understand your question about E. E is a pitch just like any of the other 11 in Western music. There's no mystery surrounding it. There's no high-E or low-E. E and E# are two different pitches (also known as F-flat and F).
I think that the mystery may be one of nomenclature: E sharp does not fall in the circle of fifths, but that does not mean the nomenclature is never used.
Take an A augmented chord for example. The pitches are A, C-sharp, and E-sharp. These are the same notes as A, C-sharp, and F, but because this the fifth is a minor second above E, you have to call it E-sharp, because it is based on an A major triad--A, C#, E. It's no different from the nomenclature used for a C augmented chord: C E G# (not C, E, A-flat).
You write that musicologists call one key "lower E" (I think you mean E natural) and higher E (I assume you mean F). Well, there is no key called E-sharp. It's called F. As explained earlier, F is enharmonically equivalent to F, but the key is properly named F. There are no "abnormal" keys. The keys of E and F (or the notes E and F) have the same tonal relation as B and C, F and G-flat (or F-sharp, its enharmonic equivalent), A and B-flat, etc. I have no idea what musicologists you're talking about, but there's no mystery here.
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 20:00:21 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Foreskin, if that so-called higher E is an octave above lower E on that site, I can't discern it here on my wheel-n-gerbel PC. Even if it is, I trust you do get my drift on the question of, "E."
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 19:24:38 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma ,
Intellectual achievement is great as long as the achiever realizes that he or she is just seconds or inches away from being a total shitheel on any given day and at any given time.
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 17:19:31 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray - Waiting For Metal Leg II To Start!, Malibu
"What is the most intimate/smallest
setting EVER for a Steely Dan Concert???"
Not including benefits & corporate shows.
As we approach the much anticipated Leg
II of the Rent Party 2009 Tour, which
includes 2 "Internet Request Nights"
ONLY on the West Coast and the intimate
& pefectly acoustic Pechanga Theatre with
a total of only 1200 seats - easily 3
MUST SEE Shows of Leg II -
"Why no other "Internet Request Nights"???
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 16:57:13 ET
Posted by: Stanley, agnostic
The opposite of the religious fanatic is not the fanatical atheist but the gentle cynic who cares not whether there is a god or not.
Eric Hoffer
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 15:30:31 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba, "weak" and "strong" atheism
Astro, Jetson, et al.,
Look up atheism and agnosticism in Wikipedia. You'll see there's plenty of flexibility in the definitions. Many atheists allow for the possibility of a god or gods; they just feel it's really unlikely. (I think even Dawkins said this in an interview about himself.)
There's no definition set in stone (literally; no stone tablets). You can't put all atheists into the same foxhole; every single one of them can have a different definition of their belief/nonbelief. They're freethinkers, dude.
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 14:51:07 ET
Posted by: Merlin41,
This should not be so surprising. ,
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 13:22:43 ET
Posted by: Foreskin Inspector, Ben Gurion Int'l Airport men's room
Rajah: The low and high E notes on the pitch pipe page you link to are an octave apart: they're the same note in different registers. I'm sure this was included for guitar players who have to tune to both high and low E. But they're the same note. E and F are a half-step (semitone, minor second) apart.
Brutus Charisma: I'm not trying to take sides, just telling you that you can be completely non-religious and also be a Jew. Why do you feel the need to belittle intellectual achievement?
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 13:02:12 ET
Posted by: aimee, near this place
almost gothic
This house of desire is built foursquare
http://www.foursquare.org/
?
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 10:40:10 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Wu and Pixeleen are the BEST songs in the SD canon.
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 09:15:39 ET
Posted by: KZKZKZ, Sadly, East of Hollywood
Hate to be the one changing the subjects here-forget about religion, forget about strainers for a second- LEG II STARTS IN 2 DAYS!!!!!!
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 08:58:26 ET
Posted by: My Guess, home
Date: Sun, September 16, 2007, 01:05:22 ET
Posted by: Still Sparkin', Narrabeen, NSW
<snip>
Bad Sneakers, Babylon Sisters, Daddy Don't Live in That NYC and My Old School were played opening night here in Perth, but have been dropped since.
<snip>
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 08:54:45 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Religion and spirituality. Fascinating subjects. Buddhism comes the closest to making any sense to me... recognizing that suffering and difficulty exist and doing what one can to reduce it in others, thereby bringing good to one's own life. A practical and logical way to live.
As far as the historical character Jesus is concerned, I would suggest the following book:
http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Lived-India-Before-Crucifixion/dp/0143028294/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1255178473&sr=1-1
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 08:50:56 ET
Posted by: Young Wu,
I'm pretty sure Daddy was played at some of the shows in Europe and in Australia in 2007, the Heavy Rollers tour.
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 08:21:48 ET
Posted by: Brain Strainer,
Well, the Strainer DID state that post 2003, which means the most recent tours, beginning 2006 to the present, Think Fast, Heavy Rollers, Sugartooth etc, SD did not play "Daddy" until earlier this year. So from that standpoint, it was recently added.
The recent addition of Dr. Wu was the MOST obvious, and most people would have chosen it.
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 08:15:35 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Nice work Astro. Bravo m' man.
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 08:00:33 ET
Posted by: My Guess, home
Strainer,
Maybe it was laziness on my part, but I know I've heard Daddy NYC in concert many times over the years. The way you phrased the question didn't suggest to me that it could be the newly introduced song. Several other posters agree. So it came down to, "which new/not recently played song in this year's set list sounds like one of the following: Peg, Josie, Hey Nineteen, Kid C." I thought Wu and Hey 19 had a similar delayed intro. And the last word in each verse is sung similarly. It wasn't a strong match, but the best I could come up with based on what I felt were possible answers.
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 05:21:24 ET
Posted by: Astro, Let George do it?
Hey Brutus, check this out...
Donald Fagen isn't an Atheist, he only thinks he is. The problem with the Atheistic philosophy is that it can't account for what occured prior to the Big Bang. The fact is we have no idea what caused the Big Bang event, but there are only two possibilities... 1)It was created by some intelligent outside force (God, Aliens, Bill, Walter, Brutus Charisma, etc.) or it wasn't. Those are the only two possibilities. To discount the possibility of intelligent creation is to discount a perfectly logical option.
"God" may not be a man in the sky or a simple story in a book written by ancient people. "God" may be an extraordinarily advanced alien lifeform capable of causing the Big Bang on whim. Jesus said "My Kingdom is NOT of this world"... Perhaps "Jesus" was the result of alien/human crossbreeding? Perhaps he wasn't really a full human lifeform at all, perhaps he was a HYBRID human-alien... They said he went out into the desert to "talk with God", but maybe he was communicating with alien spaceships instead? Certainly a race advanced enough to find Planet Earth and create a hybrid form of themselves would be able to do the things they said Christ did couldn't they? Positively they could... I mean even we humans are able to artificially inseminate a woman in order to create a child without the benefit of sex in our age, so why couldn't the aliens do it 2000 years ago?
It's possible that "Jesus" was a hybrid alien-human lifeform created by an advanced race in order to communicate with the target audience. And it's also possible that some outside alien force created the Big Bang and everything we know as "the universe".
But this is the one problem Atheists have... they can't answer the question "WHAT CAUSED THE BIG BANG?" definitively. Yet their certain "God" doesn't exist. How can they be so sure? How can they be so sure when they really don't know what "God" might be?
Date: Sat, October 10, 2009, 04:19:07 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Quite right, no formalized E sharp in the circle of fifths. But as my Music Theory prof at UCLA used to say, call it what you will, there does exist a space, a tone stuck in there between E and F. This is a site that no Steely Dan fan or serious music fan should be without:
http://www.harmonize.com/metropolis/online_pitch_pipe.htm
E Sharp, a chromatic semitone higher than E is the best I can describe it. Just for my ear, you understand. It's not accepted in formalized theory as I alluded to in my post but we do hear it in music nonetheless. I hear it anyway. OK, let's call it higher E.
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009, 23:35:45 ET
Posted by: E#,
Rajah, could you explain what you mean by E#, or lower and higher E.
There is no E# in the circle of fifths, since it is generally just F, so I can't get what you're saying.
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009, 22:39:30 ET
Posted by: Brain Strainer,
Note RE: the last Strainer
Rajah et. al.
I myself might take exception to a Dr. Wu/Hey 19 connection since I never actually said that there was one, nor patently endorsed it. Rather, such a connection was posited by the poster known as "my guess", as a guess. I left it up to other persons on the to ruminate on that one. Suffice it to say, I would not have posed a Dr. Wu/Hey 19 connection as a Strainer nor Hemorrhager.
I will state that Dr. Wu, along with, say, Pixeleen represent two of the most "non-derivative" tunes in the Steely canon. They are singularities, or discontinuities, if you will, in the derivative flow of songs as you pass chronologically thru the SD catalogue. If a connection does exist for those songs it would be very subtle (key of E), as Rajah was wont to point out.
Since "my guess" has shown some mad skills of late on these Strainers/Hemorrhagers, I extended certain "props" to "my guess" by leaving the Dr. Wu/Hey 19 assertion open for discussion rather than summarily dismissing his/her assertion, or not acknowledging it.
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009, 22:08:06 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,
Remember:
Even Sigmund Freud, Albert Einstein, Woody Allen, the militant anti-theist Sam Harris and Uncle Don only know about 1/10 of what the fuck is really going on.
I'm not overly impressed w/ intellect - it's emanating from too finite a source.
Get my drift, smart guy?
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009, 19:12:40 ET
Posted by: Eraserhead, Starkweather and Manson must pay!
Up to our old tricks Jimmy?
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009, 16:50:28 ET
Posted by: Joey ,
" .... got stopped by the police today because I didn't have my STELY DN license plate on my car. I took it off after Bernard Purdie autographed it after the 8/10 Beacon show...I only got a warning, but had to put the plate in the back window... "
I Love This Story !!!!
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009, 15:38:23 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower
got stopped by the police today because I didn't have my STELY DN license plate on my car. I took it off after Bernard Purdie autographed it after the 8/10 Beacon show...I only got a warning, but had to put the plate in the back window...
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009, 09:40:05 ET
Posted by: Mr. Spacely, revenge of Elroy
What, you don't think Don is after Obama's daughter?
SOMEBODY is in denial!
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009, 09:22:43 ET
Posted by: pauly ,
I guess Mr. Spacely and Groovemasta Jetson are the same person? I can't speak for everyone else here, but please stop wasting my time sending me to those links you put up. They're not funny or clever.
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009, 08:24:58 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
On Refdesk.com (if you don't scroll through it each day, you should), there is a piece today about Aimee Semple McPherson, of Almost Gothic fame.
And to call Daddy Don't Live a seldom-played or new addition to the setlist is bogus.
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009, 07:50:39 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Brain Strainer, I must take exception. I don't hear much of a kinship between Dr. Wu and Hey 19 other than they both flirt with the grey areas between keys. I hear a natural E on Dr. Wu and an E sharp on Hey 19. Many musicologists eschew the terms, "key of E," and, "E sharp," preferring to call them lower E and higher E. They don't argue so much over any other key as they do the, "E." Semantics in my mind but I'm not a Musicologist. But certainly that key of E is a favorite of Steely Dan.
Experts tell us over and over that what one person hears another person hears differently. It's rarely black and white and as we know Steely Dan loves to ride the in-between, the odd-ball voicings, the diminished and the augmented.
But other than that, melodically and thematically, I see very little connection between Dr. Wu and Hey 19.
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009, 07:50:15 ET
Posted by: analysis by a crack musician ,
Nothing but speculation.
I saw a cloud today that looked just like a horse.
Oh... it didn't look like a horse to you?
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009, 07:07:34 ET
Posted by: Brain Strainer,
"The most recent Strainer dealt with two tunes from the Old Testament. There is a tune that has been put into the setlist on this year's tour that hadn't been played perhaps ever, (or at least back to 2003 or earlier, if it was) from which a tune that most hard core SD fans have grown tired of, that the Greatest Hits fans love, that has appeared on every setlist is almost directly derived. Name these tunes.
One point will be awarded for each tune correctly named, even if by different individuals.
Difficulty level is about 5 to 5.5 out of ten.
Might have underestimated the difficulty level of this one.
HINT: The first tune appears on Katy Lied."
An interesting outcome of this Strainer was the answer provided by "My guess", who has been on fire of late in getting correct answers, but this time they guessed wrong, but their guess brought out an intriguing connection between songs. More on that later.
For the second straight time we have TWO winners, although one can't be sure if it was the SAME poster. The Katy Lied tune recently added to the setlist was indeed "Daddy Don't Live in that NYC No More", which has not been played for at least 2003 and prior. The poster "hey Daddy" was first with the correct answer.
The second tune in question was "Josie", which strongly, at least sonically resembles, and probably was derived from "Daddy" The poster "Hey Daddy Josie" was first to connct the two.
It is difficult to tell if both posters were the same individual speculating, but we will have to award ONE point to each poster. It was a tough call, but in the future it is best to state your "final answer" without equivocation.
After a long string of corrects, my guess guessed "Dr. Wu" which was the most notable insertion for the SD setlist and connected it to "Hey 19". There is some similarity it seems running thru each of those tune's verses and refrains, Hey 19 is a bit more mellow. I have always thought of Dr. Wu as being one of the most unique, non-derivative songs inthe Dan catalogue, but there is enough similarity to Hey 19, that maybe an analysis by a crack musician could more positively make that determination.
For another tune that some feel bears a strong resemblance, sonically, to Dr. Wu (circa 1974-75), just go outside of the realm fo the Dan to 1977, which was indeed the "Year of the Cat".......
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009, 06:54:43 ET
Posted by: Groovemasta Jetson, @ thumpin' spacecloud
Dude I was at that Levon Helm show up in Bridgeport/Mogadishu a couple of weeks ago when all of a sudden Donald walks out on stage and says
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyV2cPLuFuA
What can I say, they gave it to 'em!
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009, 05:04:22 ET
Posted by: Mr. Spacely, Magic Carpet Ride
Very intelligent Don!
But we know what you're really after don't we...
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4017/obamadaughter.jpg
Date: Thurs, October 08, 2009, 12:41:21 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Speaking of Levon Helm.....he is scheduled to be on the Imus show tomorrow morning on Fox Business.......apparently Levon and Imus are big buddies....
Date: Thurs, October 08, 2009, 12:38:44 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,
Dean:
Good to hear from you. Was beginning to worry about you :-)
Date: Thurs, October 08, 2009, 09:13:43 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach
Point of Clarification:
Fagen isn't opening for Levon Helm, as far as I can tell. He is participating in some of Helm's Rambles (just as he has done many times in the past).
Helm regularly sells out his Rambles, whether they are in Woodstock or on the road. For example, every Helm show in November is already sold out.
Man would I love to see a Ramble. Adding Fagen just makes it that much more appealing.
Date: Thurs, October 08, 2009, 08:51:56 ET
Posted by: who cares?, the sugar shack in Pennsylvania
Who cares is he's Jewish or not? he could be an Asian Muslim living in Paraguay and we would all still love the music.
Date: Thurs, October 08, 2009, 08:39:58 ET
Posted by: Spirit in the sky,
"Fagen is no atheist.
His believe in Obama the Allmighty is unwavering."
Dude, so is your inability to type a coherent sentence.
Date: Thurs, October 08, 2009, 08:29:55 ET
Posted by: Hutch,
Funny stuff. I expect to see Jackie Mason coming out of the wings any second now!
Here's what DF said in an interview a couple of years ago... "I don't trust religious people. I don't trust any adult who believes in magic."
With the current state of conflict and discord in the world and the things that have caused it to get to this point, I have to say that I couldn't agree more.
Date: Thurs, October 08, 2009, 05:14:29 ET
Posted by: Mr. Dan Steely,
...saw Levon Helm and his band play an outdoor gig in Florida a couple years ago and the crowd numbered about 400 folks- and that's being generous. Fagen must be playing for beer money or for some good ganja if he's actually opening for Helm on select dates.
Date: Thurs, October 08, 2009, 04:49:25 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
The only difference between Jews and Italians is that we eat pork roast. Oh, and we're much better drummers.
Date: Thurs, October 08, 2009, 02:50:29 ET
Posted by: Foreskin inspector, Ben-Gurion Int'l Airport men's room
Jewish as an adjective describes both an ethnicity and a religion. Judaism is the religion. Jewishness describes the culture and ethnicity. Jews can belong to either or both. There is a long history of Jewish atheism, especially among Jewish intellectuals. Sigmund Freud, Albert Einstein, Woody Allen, even the militant antitheist Sam Harris: all are atheists, all are proud and very accomplished Jews. Fagen should be proud to add his name to their company.
Date: Thurs, October 08, 2009, 01:00:47 ET
Posted by: DC, DC
Fagen is no atheist.
His believe in Obama the Allmighty is unwavering.
Date: Wed, October 07, 2009, 22:00:00 ET
Posted by: beaubo, cleveland
well, his mother is jewish, so df is by jewish law, jewish as well, his belief system notwithstanding. his mother had a jewish burial and his family sat shiva.
Date: Wed, October 07, 2009, 19:52:44 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Free thinkers of the world unite!
I can't tell what is a joke or not. If Fagen really an atheist?
Date: Wed, October 07, 2009, 18:16:15 ET
Posted by: Joey,
" Just remember, nobody else on the planet could set the tone of this song but the great Donald Fagen. It's his and his alone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umoHZbKnUW4 "
My 'Nizzle ... Bless You . Nuzzles
" Whether you hate Fagen's sardonic vocal style or love it (I'm in the latter camp), there's nobody else who could capture the "attitude" of this great tune. Signature SD chord structures, superb craftsmanship. Love it. "
Concur .
J " Snuggle " Fly ! ™
Date: Wed, October 07, 2009, 15:09:20 ET
Posted by: Tripel, NYC
Thanks SF -- appreciate the feedback
Anyone else note what time the guys actually hit the stage for the 8pm non-opening act shows? (and assuming Philly has in fact no opener)
cheers
Date: Wed, October 07, 2009, 13:12:43 ET
Posted by: Kid Clean, @work
Pabst/Riverside eMembers presale for Milwaukee shows on now.
The password is: DAN
Date: Wed, October 07, 2009, 11:18:11 ET
Posted by: Ticket Deals, US
Live Nation is offering 2 for 1 today for Phoenix.
Date: Wed, October 07, 2009, 06:24:59 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
HATWW is one of Donald's finest moments, he paints an unforgettable portrait. Such a peculiar voice, wan, forlorn. The precursor to Deacon Blues, the madman, the viper. He really knew how to sing.
Date: Wed, October 07, 2009, 02:58:44 ET
Posted by: Raven, laptop toplap
LB, BL
OMG
Date: Tues, October 06, 2009, 23:40:10 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, DC
Just remember, nobody else on the planet could set the tone of this song but the great Donald Fagen. It's his and his alone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umoHZbKnUW4
Date: Tues, October 06, 2009, 21:26:06 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
Hey Levon Helm Band date with "Special Guest"! Sign in, stranger.
Date: Tues, October 06, 2009, 19:52:00 ET
Posted by: you mustn't forget.....,
Rita Coolidge, Natalie Merchant, Karen Carpenter, Suzanne Vega, Norah Jones....
How about that Diane Sawyer? No??
Date: Tues, October 06, 2009, 19:49:19 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Was that a Jimmy Fallon rerun?
Nevermind, my bad, he was still
on SNL in 2006.
"Not a proud moment in Steely history"
Please.
Date: Tues, October 06, 2009, 18:27:04 ET
Posted by: Paul, Cynthia Calhoun
FYI, Cynthia Calhoun will be touring with Julian Marley (yes, one of those Marleys) in support of his current release, Awake. The tour begins this Thursday in Jacksonville FL and features brother Stephen Marley. All confirmed US dates are posted at www.cynthiacalhoun.com and her myspace page.
Her new site will be out within the next week.
If you're able to make any of the shows, be sure to say hello. Once a SD alum, always a SD alum.
Date: Tues, October 06, 2009, 18:03:48 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Mark, I enjoyed the song very much, I'm a sucker for a cool, tender, fragile, female voice whether she's on record or whether she's lying next to me whispering in my ear. Astrid Gilberto, Maria Muldaur, Lady Day, Nicolette Larson, the Everything But the Girl lady, Ella in her tender moments...that's something never lost on me. Well done.
Date: Tues, October 06, 2009, 17:07:21 ET
Posted by: Boston Rag, .
Last night, Jimmy Fallon had a Yacht Rock Party on his show. His musical guest was Christopher Cross singing “Ride Like The Wind”. Mike McDonald was there singing backup. The Roots played “Peg” in one of the commercial breaks. Last week, Fallon described Yacht Rock and mentioned Steely Dan as one of the bands in the genre. Not a proud moment in Steely history.
Not Dan related, except the author of this song is a friend of mine and he’s a huge Dan fan. This is a song he wrote and produced. They’ve been in the studio for a few weeks. Zoe Albert is a cool new local singer. If you like it, please leave a comment for Al & Zoe. Thanks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOordPyw-MM
Mark in Boston
Date: Tues, October 06, 2009, 17:06:59 ET
Posted by: Here is the answer, to the strainer
The obvious answer to the Strainer is Rose Darling and Bodhisattva.
Next!
Date: Tues, October 06, 2009, 10:47:18 ET
Posted by: Hey Daddy Josie, sameasiteverwas
So maybe the correct answer = Daddy + Josie (?)
Date: Tues, October 06, 2009, 10:21:48 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Bill, sure, when Sinatra overhauled a ton of the Great American Songbook, he certainly created something different. But he was not the progenitor. I adore Frank but he didn't write songs...that's...I think, something different, no? But certainly, creativity displays itself in many different guises, I get your point.
Date: Tues, October 06, 2009, 09:37:11 ET
Posted by: FG, YS
Daddy don't live sounds more like Josie than Hey 19. But that's been played live pretty regularly over the years.
Date: Tues, October 06, 2009, 08:28:03 ET
Posted by: Hey Daddy, 19 in NYC again
Daddy Don't Live & Hey 19.
Date: Tues, October 06, 2009, 07:06:27 ET
Posted by: Brain Strainer,
"The most recent Strainer dealt with two tunes from the Old Testament. There is a tune that has been put into the setlist on this year's tour that hadn't been played perhaps ever, (or at least back to 2003 or earlier, if it was) from which a tune that most hard core SD fans have grown tired of, that the Greatest Hits fans love, that has appeared on every setlist is almost directly derived. Name these tunes.
One point will be awarded for each tune correctly named, even if by different individuals.
Difficulty level is about 5 to 5.5 out of ten."
Might have underestimated the difficulty level of this one.
HINT: The first tune appears on Katy Lied.
Date: Tues, October 06, 2009, 00:43:46 ET
Posted by: Dear, ADWB
Seems to me the sets have been fairly varied this year. SD sets drew from about (I think) 50 cuts this year. Deep cuts like HTWW, Bad Sneakers and Any Major Dude being brought out of the closet and a new rework of (as well as the original) 'Reelin'. This is definitely more than the average touring major act is attempting. Another thing. All of SD's catalogue (most being the 70s type) is so much hipper, craftier, smarter, unique, engaging, challenging and daring than pretty much all the new bullshit coming out by any new artist. Jesus Christ, I'll take the same SD set every year over any of this 'new' poser shit coming out. Sometimes some of you blue posters seem to be spoiled hoyty toyties who have no perspective.
Date: Mon, October 05, 2009, 22:57:15 ET
Posted by: Reminder,
AmEx pre-sale for Milwaukee starts tomorrow, Tuesday.
Date: Mon, October 05, 2009, 20:35:56 ET
Posted by: Angry Demanding White Boy,
I'll tell you what--AND--they can put this in their pipe and smoke it, I haven't gone and WILL NOT go to another SD show, regardless of the price until the following transpires:
#1 They put out a tenth LP, or some NEW material in whatever form (i.e. paid download, new vinyl with artwork is a new trend of an old idea etc.). No more repackaging of warmed over shit in a pretty box.
#2 They start playing more deep cuts--which they did do to an extent with the album sides. How many times can someone go to the same show every year at these high prices? I demand to see something different each year rather than an annual Bill Murray "Ground Hog Day" experience. How many times can you see the SAME show, if if once a year? You have to really be obsessed or mentally challenged, as well as being fairly rich. They are going to the same well too often, and it is running dry, even for people on this board.
#3. They have a huge repertoire of material, PLUS 5 solo albums. I would not have a problem and would welcome getting some of that into the setlist mix. And I don't think it would offend the Greatest Hits set.
#4 They should also do some cover tunes, like Don did on his solo tour in '06. All this talk about them being a "big band" and these great session players should be able to interpret some jazz, blues, bop or whatever.
I'm mad, and I am not gonna take it anymore!!
So there....
Date: Mon, October 05, 2009, 20:14:01 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Let's face it - it boils down to the level of one's interest in a band. I've seen the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac (please spare me the slings and arrows) in the last year and I was happy to hear the hits. The Eagles play exactly the same show every night, in no small part because of the recorded assists. The casual Dan fan isn't going to nuts over hearing "Lunch With Gina" like a denizen of the Blue would.
I'll say this, though. The attendees at a Dan show and an Eagles or Fleetwood Mac concert LOOK mostly the same. Middle aged folks hoping they still have some cool left - maybe, if we're lucky, we're even hip.
Date: Mon, October 05, 2009, 18:20:14 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland
With the advent of concert review aggregators like http://www.realrocknews.com/classic-rock-concert-reviews/, bands (NOT just Steely Dan) are now more than ever, have to deal with the transparency and accountability that their fans can now demand.
A few years ago, a setlist was a crapshoot for fans, now they can make an educated decision before spending close to triple digits.
Wuth so little margin for error in attracting an informed consumer, its no wonder MANY bands are retreating into their greatest hits collections.
Date: Mon, October 05, 2009, 15:37:12 ET
Posted by: LB, BL
Police is plural. You would apply its usage to the band as you would in everyday use.
The police are congregating at Dunkin Donuts.
Date: Mon, October 05, 2009, 15:35:57 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando
Hey Greg M ---
It would be even worse conundrum if the name of the band were The Goose.
Date: Mon, October 05, 2009, 15:18:46 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains
The Police - singular or plural?
The Police are a great band. or,
The Police is a great band.
The Police are fantastic players. or,
The Police is fantastic players.
???
Date: Mon, October 05, 2009, 15:12:45 ET
Posted by: LB, BL
I think that you consider Steely Dan (Pink Floyd, U2, Led Zeppelin, etc.) to be singular. The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Kinks as plural.
Steely Dan is
The Beatles are
Date: Mon, October 05, 2009, 15:10:35 ET
Posted by: And The Plot, Thickens
Tour Plotter - Maybe if you take a step back, perhaps you will realize that the tour is taking a "break" from Oct. 30 - Nov 6
just like like they did a couple of times this summer?
Date: Mon, October 05, 2009, 14:47:39 ET
Posted by: Ask Miss Manners, about grammar
Would one say "Steely Dan are..." or "Steely Dan is..." I've always used the latter, but when Rajah uses the former, I suspect that I need correcting.
Date: Mon, October 05, 2009, 14:20:35 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Sinatra was a great interpretive artist, not a creative artist, but a real musician in every sense. He still sounded great at 80 something when I last saw him. Dean was entertaining and lovable but, no, not in the same league as Frank.
Steely Dan live are what the marketplace demands...and pays for. One of the last big bands, enjoy them while they last.
Date: Mon, October 05, 2009, 12:45:08 ET
Posted by: Tour Plotter, red
We're getting a little long in the tooth to fill in those early November dates.
Date: Mon, October 05, 2009, 09:28:32 ET
Posted by: Dividing, Line
In all seriousness, when would I know that SD has become just another legacy act playing "the old standards" in every corner of the globe to make another buck? Would it be next "continental" tour? When they hire Shuggie Otis to play bass? How/when would I know?
Date: Sun, October 04, 2009, 21:40:46 ET
Posted by: razorsquid, the deep end
I think Circus Money has some great songs on it and I'm very proud of of Walter for hitting what I, at least, consider a home run. After listening to certain people deride his contribution to the Dan, it felt great to be see Becker tearing it up on his own. Is it blasphemous to say that I wish both Becker and Fagen would get back into a studio? Or that I wish I knew where to find more of their, how should I say, less widely distributed music?
Date: Sun, October 04, 2009, 09:07:26 ET
Posted by: My Guess, home
Maybe the bakery spiked my coffee this morning...
Dr Wu and Hey Nineteen.
Date: Sun, October 04, 2009, 06:34:45 ET
Posted by: Rajah,
Of course we go to the shows, no matter what. Where else will you witness the great American music at its best with a full band like that, recalling all the masters of the past, the Ellingtons, the Jelly Roll Mortons, the bebop days of Miles, the rock of the 60s, the eclecticism of the 70s, the disillusionment of the 80s, the rejuveniscim of the 90s and the hope and desparation of our present era? We pay our money and we know exactly what we're getting. Seems like an honest deal to me.
Date: Sun, October 04, 2009, 02:46:32 ET
Posted by: Irving MF, AssZoff
Becker and Fagen like 400lg a night, and they don't care who knows it.
"People's gripe with Ticketmaster isn't with what we do, it's demand issues: people want tickets to attend sold-out shows, so we have unhappy customers. Plus we've been a 'collection agency' for a whole bunch of fees. But the decision is ultimately made by the acts."*
If Walt and Don could only get a sniff of the pittance taken in from merchandising at each venue, then they could foreswear their management who sells the management's tickets to the management's venues, and stop playing those tunes they so detest. Of course the setlists are not what the artists want. Yeah. Sure. Oh, yeah, and make ends meet, too.
* Can't get good seats ten minutes after the box-office opens?
Go to www.ticketsnow.com!
Awww, who am I kidding? We're going to the show no matter what.
Date: Sun, October 04, 2009, 00:44:00 ET
Posted by: Brain Strainer,
Tonight's Strainer deals with two tunes from the Old Testament. There is a tune that has been put into the setlist on this year's tour that hadn't been played perhaps ever, (or at least back to 2003 or earlier, if it was) from which a tune that most hard core SD fans have grown tired of, that the Greatest Hits fans love, that has appeared on every setlist is almost directly derived. Name these tunes.
One point will be awarded for each tune correctly named, even if by different individuals.
Difficulty level is about 5 to 5.5 out of ten....
Date: Sat, October 03, 2009, 09:32:20 ET
Posted by: RGHR, "Chicago," "On location," "Ooo-La-La!", "How's my little girl?", etc.
Now that it's been more than a year since C$, what's everyone's opinion on it vs. 11TOW? For me, C$ has too many female backing vocal parts for comfort and I'm much more inclined to spin TOW.
Date: Sat, October 03, 2009, 04:46:32 ET
Posted by: Anon,
I'm sure Fagen and Becker are netting at least 10% of the gross from this tour. Not a bad payday.
Date: Fri, October 02, 2009, 16:58:30 ET
Posted by: DCdanfan, DC
My year has been made (almost)...Got 3 tix to both the 22 and 23 NOV shows at DAR Constitution Hall in DC. My year will truly be made when the music starts.
Date: Fri, October 02, 2009, 16:29:51 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick
Pixeleen & Raj;
Messages receievd; Many thanks for your thoughtfulness.
Best wishes,
Jim
Date: Fri, October 02, 2009, 16:16:43 ET
Posted by: You're, Wrong
Three Back-up VS Two......no contest.
Date: Fri, October 02, 2009, 15:45:30 ET
Posted by: Your, Consicence
JG - most of us would trade that 3rd b/u singer for a percussionist...and WB on that "wandering" guitar...eh. Just listened to WASAM and was really into it until WB's guitar solo unflowered...thankfully I got auditory wood again just after it ended. Walt really needs to get back to playing bass on the tours or stick to a role such as Keith Reid, etc. (i.e. WAY behind the scenes).
Date: Fri, October 02, 2009, 10:41:12 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick, off to the rally
Info:
The Fagen solo band tickets were priced a bit less; but they also have fewer horns, had the keyboard player do backups, and they did have a second guitarist, but not Walter.
Date: Fri, October 02, 2009, 09:59:20 ET
Posted by: Econ 101, back to school
I've always been perplexed when I read that ticket prices are what they are because of expenses. It's all about supply and demand.
Date: Fri, October 02, 2009, 05:29:18 ET
Posted by: Steely Dans last concert date, December 20 2012
Date: Fri, October 02, 2009, 00:43:09 ET
Posted by: H & R Block, in a cubicle
Not to mention the dozen band members, dry cleaning & laundry bills, post cards/postage,souveniers, bottled water,fuel(is there gas in the bus?), tolls/e-z pass cost, toiletries, prescriptions, condoms etc etc etc Did we mention the dozen band members??
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 21:59:16 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Doin' the math...
Here's my little estimate:
71 dates * approximately 3000 people or so at each show * an average ticket price around 75 bucks.
About $16,000,000, but again, that's just my best guess estimate.
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 21:54:12 ET
Posted by: bob, just wondering
WOW......71 dates how much dough can a couple of fellas make on 71 dates?
seriously, just curious, anybody have an educated estimate? I am really more interested in the net dollars to the band.
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 21:44:17 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, "Chicago," "On location," "Ooo-La-La!", "How's my little girl?", etc.
I think the SD Newsletter said these were the last dates added. I believe it's a grand total of 71 dates, longest tour to date.
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 20:55:52 ET
Posted by: Bob, wondering
does anyone know if there will be anymore dates added????
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 18:38:25 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
SF Dan Fan...If you're gonna be late that's an acceptable reason.
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 15:09:19 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, SF
Tripel, you should plan on them being on stage no later than 8:10pm, maybe sooner. No opening act means a few extra minutes for folks to hit the seats and they will be ready to go. When I saw them in LA they hit the stage at 9pm after 15 minutes of intermission with the opening act.
Last year when I saw them in Santa Rosa, they hit the stage at 8:45pm, after a 15 minute intermission with the opening act. In fact, we missed the Everyone's Gone to the Movies & The Fez medley because we were smoking in the parking lot.
The Boys are not there to mess around. Punctual and professional is their calling card.
Have a great time with you buddy from Toronto!
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 14:21:08 ET
Posted by: tripel, NYC
can anyone answer -- what time has SD been hitting the stage for these non-casino nights? Has there been an opening act?
Philly says 8pm, but wondering what time they start?
thanks
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 14:17:35 ET
Posted by: TURK&&, Minneapolis
Thanx Bob Im looking forward to the show at Northrop . I have seen them twice and both times I was very happy with the performances.Ajas one of my favorite Dan albums When it first came out I was too young to really appreciate it now at age 50 it makes sense
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 13:33:50 ET
Posted by: Bob's Yer Uncle, Minneapolis
Turk 77;
They play Aja to start the show. They have been playnig Show Biz Kids at most of the previous Aja shows.
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 07:42:37 ET
Posted by: Turk77, Minneapolis
Im a big Dan fan here in Mpls unfortunatley they only come here like every 10 years this is my lucky year and I m quite excited about seeing them again its been since 2003 . I notice they will be doing Aja + Anyone have any info as to what to expect for the show. Do they come out and do the whole Aja album in order and then take a break and come back? What are the songs they have been playing the most of late? Show Biz Kids is a favorite are they playing that at all this tour ?
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 01:43:40 ET
Posted by: Phall Swoop, Tin Pan Land
HTtp://www.myspace.com/phallswoop
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 01:43:26 ET
Posted by: Phall Swoop, Tin Pan Land
http://www.myspace.com/phallswoop
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 01:42:54 ET
Posted by: Phall Swoop, Tin Pan Land
http://www.myspace.com/phallswoop
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 01:39:10 ET
Posted by: dleestan, Pornland, Organ
Props to my peeps and fany mans who get down to the groove at (4:45.5) of Blu Cheese and hear it really start to click and thicken at (3:30) of Blues Pandemic and the Sister are going down to the ground to do a bong on (3:47) of Blues Sin-Along.
The baby's on fire ever since I put it down on a first gen d workstation, not half bad especially considerin' there be not one stick rim hit or one string strum, and what the fuck does your boring ass want to hear anyway some bad political rap lyrics. Shit we can work on that. Help get me an apple and a band.
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2009, 01:31:57 ET
Posted by: none other than the one and only one mister dleestan, Chicago all the way
godamn this site looks better than alright
i wouldnt even want to just perhaps rearrange the pillows or anything
saw Don and Walt & company thursday at chicago theatre playing royal scam with larry c, it was beautiful except now that don sings very well now and correctly it's also different, maybe they stayed with the old keys and he hasn't trained himself to strain anymore but it all evenned out so sweet the way they sang Parker's Band omg! and played almost ALL of Aja anyway which cums like a sunami baby really the best of the best songs ever
I, am asking for persons in the fandom which even just the slightest passing interest to check this out http://www.myspace.com/phallswoop
It is a primitive project I'm trying to get some tracktion action on
This stuff is in the end totally crack-pot,
I'm trying to find the rush limbou, ron paul audience combined
Don and Walt wouldn't be interested cause it's cheese, it's not legitimate, and they're too old and powerful and spoiled but we love them anyway
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