August 2011 Posts

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Date: Sat, October 01, 2011, 00:58:09 ET
Posted by: Andromeda, NY

Speaking of pot, where the hell does everyone smoke it at the Beacon? The smell of it was pretty strong the night I was there but I didn't see it. Do people really smoke in the bathrooms? Can't say I've ever liked it enough to go smoke in a stall....

Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 23:44:25 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY

You're most welcome. Glad to share.

<<<<ppps - Belated THANKS to henrod for those downloadable videos from the Friday night show. Ultimately, I didn't make the show, so your clips helped me through my SD withdrawal. Thanks again!

Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 23:29:59 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Toronto

Hey Security Joan! Thanks for the great tidbit - I feel yer pain, chicky, and I heartily endorse your very necessary action/reaction. That goof had it comin', and then some. Thankfully, my two Beacon shows this year were completely jackass-free (up in the "Loge" for Rarities night and way up in the top deck for Gaucho on Friday), but it sounds like we could have used your talents at several other shows during the run. Somebody's gotta keep these selfish, disruptive clods in line!

And, the true spirit of "belated responses", I have one of my own, dedicated to The Dean (who apparently enjoyed my caustic words from a few days ago but took issue with my comments regarding "cupholders").........

Dean - Regarding my anti-cupholder/anti-rudeselfishbastards manifesto of a few nights ago - I agree with you that cupholders are indeed convenient, and definitely an improvement over leaving one or more of those gallon-sized mega-beers on the floor. I just hate what they represent, which to me is the none-too-subtle suggestion that "YOU WILL BUY OUR OVERPRICED DRINKS", and that the sale of those drinks (and the grotesque profit that comes with them) takes priority over the musical performance itself, at any and all cost to those seated around the ignorant pricks who are guzzling the massive jugs of tasty happy-juice. "Any and all costs" meaning the rude, asinine, self-centered behavior we've seen of late at many Steely Dan shows. The cupholders, for me anyways, represent the Culture of Rudeness circa 2011. "Drink 'n' pee 'n' drink 'n' pee 'n' pee 'n' drink......all night long, folks! Just make sure you put the cup in the cupholder!"

See, I'm old enough to remember when ANY food or drink was strictly forbidden in the auditorium, and I actually remember when most concert halls or even large arenas didn't even sell alcohol at all during concerts (true story, kids - I swear!). A first-class venue like Toronto's legendary Massey Hall, for instance, didn't want folks in seats eating, drinking, belching, chattering, phoning, or otherwise disrupting those around them. Don't get me wrong - I love beer and tequila as much as the next guy (possibly even more, now that I think about it), but as we've all seen recently, the fallout from too much liquid consumption is too many disruptive potty-breaks. And age ain't no excuse, DYLYNFAN! I'm old enough to be your cousin [editor's note: "What on earth does THAT mean?"] but you won't see me jumping in and out and in and out of my seat to barge past people who are trying to concentrate on the performance they presumably paid good money to see. I know it's 2011 and much of what we used to take for granted in the Public Manners Department is now just so "1944". I find that kinda sad. Maybe it's just me. Again.

I still fondly remember being thoroughly annoyed back in the 70s and early 80s when it seemed that everyone around me at every show was smoking weed. Non-stop, it seemed. The air was blue at every hockey arena concert I went to, and I hated it. I will now officially aopolgize to each and every stoned-out-of-his-mind-and-almost-catatonic pot-head I encountered back then. I'm sorry, guys. I miss you all more than you'll never know. You guys were OK - it just took me a few decades to figure it out. Not one of you guys ever got belligerent, not one of you ever needed five (!) piddle-breaks during a two-hour show, and not one of you ever barfed all over the poor cluck sitting in front of you**. A much belated thanks for all of that. Come back, dudes. All is forgiven...........


ps - **Yeah.....I witnessed this delightful, classy behavior at a Paul McCartney show at Toronto's Air Canada Centre around six or seven years ago. Buddy tanked up on (by my count) six hilariously-overpriced Big Gulpers and a particularly-putrid-looking plate of nachos ("again with the foul-smelling nachos!"), and then proceeded to cough the whole shootin' match up on the fan seated directly in front of him. Long Live Cupholders.

pps - Looking forward to the next two Boston setlists! 'Cause it just keeps gettin' better, doesn't it?

ppps - Belated THANKS to henrod for those downloadable videos from the Friday night show. Ultimately, I didn't make the show, so your clips helped me through my SD withdrawal. Thanks again!

pppps - I will ALWAYS detest cupholders when they are positioned in concert venues. All other cupholders are A-OK with me!

Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 23:15:58 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY

Not a brass player - used to be a woodwind player - but it was definitely a flugelhorn. And man, was it played beautifully! Awesome tone.

Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 22:10:28 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly

M/O/D/P, this is a late response to your comment about obnoxious asshole behavior at shows, but need to share this tidbit, which I told a few folks about post-Beacon on 9/23: There was a particular group of center-row dwellers who kept getting up in the middle of songs for beer breaks ... and on the FOURTH time my row had to stand to let them back to their seats, I was beyond pissed off and couldn't resist: I put my foot out at mid-calf level to deliberately trip the last guy through. The amazing thing is he didn't spill much beer (guess he had his priorities straight) but I do think my message was clear, since he gave me an evil eye and grumbled some obscenities toward me before rambling back into his seat.

One might say my gesture made me a co-asshole, but frankly I feel I was defending the integrity of the experience, albeit aggressively. And damn, it was quite satisfying!!!

Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 20:39:08 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, wants to be Pat Metheny when he grows up if he grows up.

A couple more clips from 9/23/11:

Pretzel Logic:
Dirty Work:

Any brass blowers here?
Was that a fl�gelhorn Michael Leonhart used for the solo on Dirty Work?
I think it sounds and looks like one.

Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 18:37:42 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

WonkaV, that is some crazy shit. Actually the music (for the most part) is pretty damn good, although not what one would expect to hear at a wedding. Kind of Zappaesque. Two observations:

To paraphrase a certain band's lyrics, the kids don't seem to care what's on. It's awesome how open kids are to new experiences. They seem to be diggin' the freedom of the music.

The music was really fantastic when the woman approached the band (I think it's fairly obvious she is a liar, BTW, as she doesn't appear to be ill at all).

Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 17:15:44 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

I guess I can't edit my last post.

That YT video, go to the 7 minute mark. That is when the woman walks up to Wertico while he is playing and asks if the band can play something else, because the music is making her sick and she thinks she is going to throw up.


Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 17:12:52 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

Wertico still lives in Chicago. He is the head of the Jazz Studies at University of Chicago-Roosevelt.

Pete, that is a great story that you had to get a cassette tape or whatever and run it over to Metheny so he could learn a couple songs. Great story.

As for the Metheny sound, yeah, that is the guitar synth that Metheny first introduced on "Offramp", and incredibly great album I might add. But you don't want an overdose of synth, that is for sure.

You want to hear something weird (and funny), Paul Wertico told me about this wedding reception he played, one time event in which he and buddies played together at the groom's request. They called themselves Earwax Control after playing together one time at a wacky bar.

This is the most bizarre wedding reception music you will ever here. Paul Wertico is on drums and laughs when one of the reception patrons complained about the music. Pretty funny.

Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 16:53:35 ET
Posted by: Pete,

Thanks guys! Appreciate the nice words. Here's a picture that I took of the guys after the show (first pic).

Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 14:49:38 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Bel Air At The Office But Wish I Was In Boston Tonight


I echo the sentiments from my friend in
Toronto. When I read your Ne York Nights
Nights memories with Pat Metheny it raised
the hair on the back of my neck this morning
out here in LA. I think many of us here wish
that you were still booking gigs for Donald &
Walter. And as always, thanks for keeping the
lights on during the "dark" years. Since you
started Metal Leg all those years ago, who ever
would have thought that we would ever hear a song
like The Second Arrangement live?! Greater Dandom
owes you such huge debt for keeping the dream alive
for us all. Any news you can share on the new
Donald Fagen Solo CD? ;O)

I used to make ends meet in Chicago by bartending
at the Green Mill. Pat Metheny walked in one night
when Paul Wertigo was playing and I guess the rest
is history. The first Pat Metheny Group "White"
album released on ECM in 1978 is still my favorite.
It always makes me think of a cozy winter afternoon
with fluffy white snow in the brilliant sunshine.
One hell of a "debut".

Thanks for the report Denise. Wish we would of
gotten a longer run out here in LA this year and
perhaps a Herington solo show. Looking forward
to reading the reports from Beantown tonight.

Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 12:57:48 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

I was (and guess still am) a big Pat Metheny fan. I admit I am biased toward his earlier material (PMG, American Garage, Wichita Falls, etc) but I really did find his contribution to the Fagen concert interesting and very good, indeed.

With that said, I had a very strange experience at one Metheny concert. I had seen him once or twice prior to this event, and he and the band were terrific. But this one concert in Boston, in the late 1980's was quite bizarre to me. Pat maybe let the guitar sound like a guitar on two or three songs (I might be off on this, but that is what it seemed like). During the other tunes he had his guitar playing bell sounds, bird sounds and other heavily synthesized effects. Interesting? Yes. And even enjoyable for a short while. It just got to be too much for me. Now, I'm not the type to demand the group play the hits/familiar tunes/just what I want to hear, etc. But I did expect Pat to play, you know, the GUITAR.

Even though it sounds like I am complaining (and maybe I am a bit) I realize this is my issue, not Metheny's. He is playing what he wants to play (as he should) and I am paying to hear a great artist perform. But I will say, it put me off of his new stuff for a short while and had his stuff sounded like most of what he played at that concert, I wouldn't really be much of a Pat Metheny fan. I'd respect him, but that stuff really doesn't speak to me. Fortunately, he has his other side that really speaks to me. So be it.

Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 12:51:33 ET
Posted by: angel, LA

14 really nice photos of Steely Dan, are up on the Beacon site.

Click to enlarge and enjoy. :-)

Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 12:17:08 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Name, 18 Years Since 1993 (!), NJ

To hear Pat's solos on those tunes is always an awesome treat. Phoebe Snow also played a prominent role in the version of FM we have all.. ahem... alluded to. That synclavier sound Pat's famous for sounds so unbelievable on FM. As a PMG fan, it's a rare treat to hear that sound merge with one of my other favorite tunesmiths.

One of the other great memories I have from Rarities Night, changing the subject, was when Walter walked over to Jon Herington at the end and gave him a congratulatory handshake. It was a nice acknowledgement of his dedication to bringing that particular night into reality. Leading a band with new and complicated charts in front of an audience was a professional accomplishment in my view, too.

Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 11:29:31 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Toronto

Thanks for the interesting story-behind-the-story, Pete. Posts like that one of yours are what make the Blue so worthwhile, and are also one of the reasons I check in here regularly. Great stuff!

Date: Fri, September 30, 2011, 00:56:17 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown

Tupelo Music Hall
Londonderry NY

Saw Jon Herington�s Band there tonight. Excellent performance, I thought. It was a treat to watch such a skilled musician in this small setting. Among the wonderful songs (Ginny Rose, Up for Grabs, and the very funny E-girl) was Chain Lightning. Very finely played. I hope you got to hear the webcast if you could not attend. I listened to his 2 CDs all the way home and really got into shine (shine shine) especially. Looking forward to the next one.

Thank you Geoff!

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 23:42:10 ET
Posted by: Pete, NYC

Pat was in NYC recording a record at the time of the NY Nights shows. He came in one night to check it out and ended up getting called up to play on Chain Lightning and Black Friday. He didn't want to play because he didn't bring his guitar with him, but Jimmy Vivino convinced him to use one of his. He had such a good time that he committed to doing a full show a few months later. DF wanted him to play on Sign In Stranger, Josie and a few other SD songs. Pat came up to me before one of the rehearsals and said that he wasn't familiar with Sign In Stranger. I had to go to Tower Records and pick up a cassette of The Royal Scam and bring it over to him at the Omni Hotel so he could learn it. Somethings you never forget.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 23:16:55 ET
Posted by: luke,

Lutz: I was at the Lonestar for the Pat/Donald show. I think it was 1991 or 1992. I guess Donald thought Pat was so "not right" for the band that he asked him to play on the '93 tour. Pat was on fire! He played on a bunch of SD songs that night. I remember that Jimmy Vivino (Conan/Fab Faux) was band leading. The crowd was going ape shit! I know there's a tape of that show floating around somewhere.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 21:50:22 ET
Posted by: thefez, Boston

@ForwardGirl. It sounds like you were the couple to the left of my wife and I. I can see where she may have blocked your view at times and I would have been pissed (And probably have said something). Your description of her as a 'twit' and the boyfriend(?) Woody Allen is spot on. Hope you folks enjoyed the show (I offered the binoculars!)

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 21:44:25 ET
Posted by: thefez, Boston

As far as the Sox last night, when I walked out of the show I found out Tampa had made it 7-7 against the Yanks and Sox were ahead in a rain delay. When I got home and checked in they had lost and Tampa had won. I guess those that caught the show last night had a much better night then most of beantown.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 21:41:11 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

Should have mentioned that Wertico is of course "former" drummer for PMG. He has not played with Pat in a decade or so.

I would gladly neck and get all over my wife in a lip lock or whatever - at a Dan show. If some hag walked up and told me to knock it off, I would probably lift my wife's top and bare her breasts in defiance. What the hell.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 21:37:48 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

Gaucho, I will gladly babysit your kids so that you can be sprung loose for the Dan show. Only catch is that you are going to have to drop them off in Louisville and it will cost you a fifth of bourbon.

Many have commented on Metheny and all I can say is that I am a huge Pat fan and have seen him in concert 7 times. You gotta catch him with the Pat Metheny Group live, in your lifetime, or you have not lived. Paul Wertico, PMG drummer is a personal friend of mine and he would do a smashing job on a Steely Dan tour, not that anyone ever asked my opinion. LOL

I'm once again envious that Any Major Dude was played in Boston. Classic song. Hopefully they didn't have any tv's on in the lobby for the Bosox epic meltdown against the Orioles. Epic.

That's all I got. I still have a crush on Carolyn and I don't care if she is married or not. Hell, I'm married!

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 20:18:28 ET
Posted by: JHB, Live Right Now, Tupelo

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 20:06:58 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Name, Two Guitars Only Please, NJ

Pat Metheny, as the story goes, thought that 3 guitarists onstage would be one too many.

As for Drew Zingg, he may have been shocked, but he also knew who he was working for.

DZ, being the good sport that he is, returned for SD's AIA gigs in October 1995 for the radio show, Letterman and Roseland, as did Peter Erskine.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 19:52:22 ET
Posted by: side, note

pat metheny was asked but turned down the 93' reunion tour. don't know why though? also drew zingg was stunned when he was not brought back for 94' tour.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 16:51:30 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Jim, Kz, noexpert:
I always wondered how Pat Metheny sounded with SD.
His sound seems to jazzy for them, just my opinion.
It's perfect for his own music.
Although he fit in well with Bruce Hornsby.
Just saw the Metheny/Grenadier solo/duo concert last week - highly recommened - he's still out there.
Also, maybe not in the 90's but now he's even bigger than SD so that wouldn't fit anyways...
Metheny and Jaco in any setting it were great.
Although Metheny might have felt they were not going full steam, "Shadows and Light" is one of my all time favorites.
Jaco lived here in SF for a couple of months a year or so before his death and played frequently in small clubs.
Saw him one night at the Catalyst in Santa Cruz and he was way out there, as in pui. Sad.
One of his best performances from that period was recorded in Marin County and released as "Curtain call"

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 16:19:05 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, eh

You know I've seen ticket prices mentioned here before and I've been to the Beacon many times but I always chose to think of it this way: in the economic downturn I am fortunate enough to afford this luxury and that by doing so I am supporting a lot of other people and their families. Can you imagine the cost that would go into running a show like that? 12 members of the band, the road crew, light and sound crew, the crew that run the venue I could crew on! Sorry couldn't resist, but seriously by supporting these musicians and these shows jobs are being created and that's a very positive thing.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 15:59:14 ET

Lurker Ray nice prose, you sure have a way with words!! A good way!!
Shocked to hear the Boston crowd was subdued, musta been the RED SOX
fault or the fans are saving there energy for the rest of the run!!!

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 15:59:12 ET

Lurker Ray nice prose, you sure have a way with words!! A good way!!
Shocked to hear the Boston crowd was subdued, musta been the RED SOX
fault or the fans are saving there energy for the rest of the run!!!

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 15:43:58 ET
Posted by: ForwardGirl, Bahston

Great show last night, although for the record, we were in the front row of the orchestra boxes, and the dancing twit was most definitely blocking our view. The usherettes asked her to move off to the side of the empty aisle, about 4 steps to her left, but she flipped everybody off and stayed where she was. The only amusing part was that her boyfriend/husband/whatever looked just like Woody Allen in silhouette as he danced clumsily up to her and brought her beer.

Certainly there are danceable songs in the show, and I'm all for that, but the whole show? Even during the band intros? Really? If you truly care that little about what's happening on stage, then go dance in the back.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 15:43:21 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Thanks for the setlist & reports from Boston. Well I don't see how
anyone can deny that they definitely heard the grumblings after the Dawn of the Dead show in NYC. And I have a strong feeling that someone or a few folks in their camp has been tracking the NYC run here on the Blue.

In the end after the complaints they not only gave longer shows as they went on in NYC but just look at the additions to last nights Dawn of the Dan show in Boston. But again, you have already worked up East St. Louis Toodle-Oo and the good folks in St. Louis said they loved it, so how do you not play it on Dawn of the Dan night?

Steve in Brooklyn,

I definitely felt the same way after Dawn of the Dead night in NYC. At least the lucky people in Boston got their money's worth last night with a show that should of also been done in NYC. But I so agree with
you, NO ONE should ever have to pay $250 for a decent seat to see Steely Dan, especially in these horrible economic times in our country. And remember many of these $250 seats were just that, "only decent". I turned back to look at the $250 Loge seats at the Beacon during Rarities night and it was a ghost town up there.

And again I still feel the whole way this NYC run was handled this year just mirrors the horrible "have and have not" mentality sadly found in our country right now. The message sent was basically,
either you "have" the means to come to NYC or you were willing to go into debt, or "don't have the means" to come and you were SOL. Too bad for you bunky, the less well off Steely Dan fan. So many fans never got the chance this year to see Steely Dan do a show like Rarities night in their area though they would have loved to. And I still think that Rarities night would have sold out in many major markets, there were plenty of "hits" thrown in to even satisfy even the most casual of fans.

I hope they have learned some tough lessons from the Beacon NYC run this year. One can only hope. That being said, I must admit I am
still on a Rarities night "high" and would easily go into debt so see a show like that again.

To paraphrase the late Rick James, "Steely Dan is a powerful drug".
And many of us "junkies" wandered in to NYC and gladly paid way too much for a "taste they said they would bring to us" even it that meant going into debt in this horrific economy and outlook for our country.

Once a junkie, always a junkie and your dealer always knows that.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 15:36:18 ET
Posted by: duncan, UK

I knew there was a flying V out there somewhere...

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 15:18:51 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando

Good clip of LC playing the solo to Kid Charlemagne at Beacon show. At the very end of the solo, as the camera (iphone?) pans back to Fagen and the girls, catch the big grin on Becker's face looking over at Carlton. Basically pure delight at how well executed it was.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 15:05:38 ET
Posted by: luke, NJ

Jazz- That IS very creepy!

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 14:50:04 ET
Posted by: Technicolor Motorhome, Southern U S

Sounds like the best places to have seen this tour were Thackerville OK, or maybe Whites Creek TN. No controversy - just fun.

No surprise. Don and Walter should disown up east and move down south.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 14:27:11 ET
Posted by: jazz,

so if you were becker and fagen, what would u do during your stay in boston? i wonder where they would go and if there is a chance of finding them... ;) not meant to be creepY!

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 13:14:57 ET
Posted by: shark, that was me

I was shouting adamantly for Razor Boy. at some point I switched to Only A Fool just to keep things interesting.

didn't hear Donald's "prison yard" remark. hilarious.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 12:42:26 ET
Posted by: jazz,

thanks for the moral support, shark. i hope you are right!

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 12:41:53 ET
Posted by: John in Boston, Boston

A few other comments from last nights show:

Walter used a different guitar on almost every song, which I had never seen before (this was my 10th or 11th SD show). His guitar tech slipped out between each song with a new axe, and Walter strapped it on. He had a Flying V during the Hey 19 schtick and a few other less-identifiable models along the way.

There were occasional shouted requests between songs, including someone adamantly yelling for Razor Boy, which caused Donald to respond in jest "What's this? I feel like I'm playing in a prison yard." Made me laugh...


Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 12:32:45 ET
Posted by: TheFez, Boston

Short 'review' from today's online Boston Herald:

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 12:30:43 ET
Posted by: shark,

also wouldn't be surprised if they repeat Boston Rag. they're in Boston, after all. Donald intro'd it last night by saying, "here's a local favorite..."

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 12:15:01 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Toronto

Thanks for making me laugh, Chris - "Too fat to clap" is one of my new favourite lines!

Seriously, though, I'm amazed at the sheer number of "fans" who show up to eat/chatter loudly/guzzle expensive beer/wander around/make loud phone calls/take half a dozen pee-breaks, all while an act of this caliber is playing on the stage. A morbidly obese couple beside us at a recent concert spent the whole time being fat and gorging themselves on plate after plate of nachos that smelled like a cross between Oprah's feet and a bad burp. Revolting. They too were "too fat to clap", and as a result they pretty much ingored the proceedings on stage until they recognized that one song from the radio. Even then, they were too fat to stand up.

It's official now. The live concert venue is now the replacement for the average Joe's den, bathroom, kitchen, and backyard deck. Just do whatever makes ya feel good, folks. Don't fucking worry about the rest of us......or the band.......

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 12:04:34 ET
Posted by: shark,

don't be too bummed out there, jazz. they've been doing YGT at almost every show this tour so you'll probably get that one. and at Rarities night, Donald said how much he enjoyed dusting off Pearl of the Quarter so maybe you'll get that as well. sure would be nice if it remained in the setlist from here on out, along with YGT.

and I hope they don't stop dusting off some obscure classics. still quite a few to choose from...

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 11:53:13 ET
Posted by: jazz,

extremely depressed i had to miss the show last night because of work. what a set list.

im going to the RS night. RS will be enjoyable but i am really concerned the rest of the set list will be the hits and ill miss out on YGT, pearl, boston rag, etc.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 11:44:47 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Thanks for the reviews from Boston. Why is it that ushers are always miserable old folks that think it's not acceptable for people to have a good time, but perfectly OK to chat loudly throughout the entire show? Seriously -- putting aside the fact that the lyrical content of any Steely Dan song makes it some of the worst hookup music available -- making out with your girl at a concert is a time honored tradition. And I saw the look on Fagen's face when the front of the Beacon cheered and danced during THIS ALL TOO MOBILE HOME. They clearly like it when people get down - why wouldn't they?

One thing I didn't mention about the show in NYC were the miserable fat old people who surrounded us in our section and yelled at us to sit down when we stood up for the band's entrance. I always try and be considerate to those around me at shows and adopt the acceptable behavior, so we did sit during songs, but we also made sure to cheer as loudly as possible for the rarities that had those around us scratching their heads.

Here's what I don't understand: they were annoyed that we stood up after songs and cheered as loud as we could to make up for their passive "too fat to clap" behavior, but they found it perfectly acceptable to converse loudly during the show.

Props to the front sections of the Beacon though. We found some open seats during the last few songs and everyone was partying during My Old School, as they should be. When THIS ALL TOO MOBILE HOME started and I lost my shit in the best possible way, one dude gave me a high five. Next time I'll have to try and find some danfans to sit near - if we can take a section, the miserable olds sprinkled throughout will bend to our will! LET'S DO IT!

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 11:42:52 ET
Posted by: Steve, Brooklyn

Been thinking more about the rarities show (which I was lucky enough to attend) and the setlists I�ve seen for the �dawn� and �21st century� shows. Let me begin by saying I�ve been a fan since 1980 or so and have seen 15 or 20 shows, from Lone Star Roadhouse to Roseland to MSG and many in between.

I was initially very excited about this Beacon run. Thought about attending all of the three above mentioned shows, but it was going to be a lot of cash, so ended up just at rarities. And what about that show? I thought there were some truly great moments: Your Gold Teeth, The Bear, Pearl of the Quarter, Second Arrangement, American Lovers, This Mobile Home (high point of the show, IMO). Aside from the rarities, I thought the band was mostly terrific and found myself enjoying songs I�ve heard live many times before, which was a surprise. But I did leave the show a bit disappointed. I thought it was a bit hit-heavy.

In the days after, I saw a lot of the chatter on this board about the set list and, initially, took the stand that we were lucky to get what we got, that it was amazing that this band � who spent so many years saying they�d never tour - was touring at all, and with such great musicians, and such enthusiasm (talking about Fagen here), blah, blah, blah. In short, I was supportive of the choices they made.

Given a bit more time to think about it though, and taking the �dawn� and �21st century� set lists into account, I�m changing my tune. First off, I want to say that what they play at their �normal� shows is all cool � it�s their choice, they�re making no promises, etc. Peg? Fine. Time Out Of Mind? Fine. Whatever. I�m strictly talking about the �theme� nights. And I think that these theme nights were a pretty massive disappointment. I would�ve been furious if I�d ponied up $250 to see �21st century� and got six (or so) tunes from the new records, leaving out songs they�ve actually played live before. �Dawn� was a bit better, but here again they missed tunes from these first three records that they�ve been playing other nights on the tour. WTF? And rarities? I think it was the best of the three, but there was still a bit too much Reelin� and Peg for my ears.

One of the pro-setlist arguments has been that it simply would�ve been too much work to prepare more tunes. Work, yes, but too much? It certainly would�ve cost them $�s for arrangements and additional rehearsal time, but they�re raking it in folks. And it�s not unheard of at all for tunes to be worked up for just one show � I saw Fagen and co. do it many times (and with large bands) at the Lone Star and the Beacon in the 90�s. These were tremendous shows with great arrangements � not easy to do, but they put the work in. Yes, it�s easier if the band isn�t on the road, but there was plenty of time to get this together and, after all, this is a tremendous band. These were not cheap tickets.

In short (IMO, of course):

- �rarities�: a few more actual rarities. Reelin� doesn�t count. Rikki doesn�t count.

- �dawn�: so many missed opportunities here, from songs they�ve been playing at other dates (but didn�t play on �dawn� night to songs they haven�t played at all (especially from CBAT � Brooklyn, Change of the Guard, Kings?). Yes, I get that they don�t really like the first record, but then bill the show differently (a combined CTE and PL show maybe? They seem to like these records).

-�21st century�: my god, what a disappointment. Seeing as this is recent material, you have to assume that they like the songs. Why on earth they didn�t bother to learn more of them is a mystery.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 10:55:18 ET
Posted by: TheFez, Boston

Thanks Shark De Ville, my wife and I couldn't quite makeout from where we were what Donald said to that Major Dude during GodWhacker, that's hilarious.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 10:43:20 ET
Posted by: shark de ville, sweet things from Boston

killer show at the Wang last night!!! well worth the 900-mile drive from NC. highlights included Any Major Dude, Boston Rag, and another Pearl of the Quarter that brought me to tears.

(I was at Rarities night as well, but I've been avoiding the Blue since the 14th... didn't want any spoilers.)

another highlight was Donald, during the first bridge of "Godwhacker" yelling at someone in the audience: "You're going to the fucking bathroom?!!" hilarious.

lowlight was all the miserable old cunts telling people they couldn't dance, or text before the show, or even kiss! I was making out with my girl during a song, and this old bag actually came up with her flashlight and told us,"This isn't the place for that!"

it seems like every old theater is full of these nasty old librarian types. where do they find them all???

It was a great show. Walter was in fine form, ripping off some sweet licks in the middle of his Hey 19 rap and throughout the show. Donald warmed up to the crowd as the night progressed. At the end of the show, he mentioned the Berklee grads in the band and how he only lasted one semester. Also how he skipped out on classes to see the Beatles at Shea Stadium. He didn't have tickets so he "hung out outside with the other hippies by the parking meter."

He also mentioned that David Palmer and Skunk were both from Boston, and that Palmer was selling shoes now or something. pretty funny when Donald opens up... you never know what he's gonna say.

An amazing night with some really good energy. No Razor Boy or Only a Fool but I knew those were extreme longshots. Nothing can really beat Rarities night but I'm sure glad I made it to the Wang.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 10:09:20 ET
Posted by: TheFez, Boston

Well, no need for me to post a setlist, I recorded the same list previously posted by John. Great show, nice mix of tunes. Highlights include the opener 'Your Gold Teeth' with an extended jam in the middle. Excellent, had to clock in at close to 9-10 minutes. My wife loved the return of 'Time out of Mind' and I enjoyed hearing 'Do it Again' live again. Overall, quite happy with the setlist, although I heard nothing regarding cobalt cigarettes or an old friend named 'Felonious'. Crowd seemed relatively tame up front compared to previous shows. There was a fairly decent looking blonde in front of us drinking and dncing all night (we were first row/first balcony, they actually were not bad at all). Security must have told this girl to sit down a dozen times and she completely ignored them and did her thing and they never booted her. She was behind the filled seats where there were about 8 empty rows in front of us and wasn't bothering anyone and not obstructing any views (my wife joined her briefly during TOOM). Great night, tough being on a Wednesday, draggin' arse a bit at work this morning.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 10:01:36 ET

Thanks, JOHNINBOSTON, all I can say is WOW!! What a start for BOSTON
what a GREAT f*ckn set-list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DONE BABBLING

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 09:53:16 ET
Posted by: Who?, What?

kzkzkz, - I heard about that. But I thought he played on Sign In Stranger, not FM?

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 09:52:49 ET
Posted by: hoop, chicago. on the quick


Thank you so much!


Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 07:39:28 ET
Posted by: John in Boston, Boston

Here's a setlist from the Boston Dawn of the Dan show last night:
Truth and Beauty
(unknown track)
Steely Dan:
Your gold teeth
Black Friday
Hey 19
Time out of mind
Parker's band
Any major dude
Show biz kids
Boston rag
Pearl of the quarter
Do it again
Papa don't take no mess
Dirty work
My old school
Kid Charlemagne
Reelin in the years
Pretzel logic

House lights came up at 11:00 following Reelin and I was sure they had run out of time, but they came out with a fabulous version of Pretzel Logic to finish the night, which made it for me! Took my two young sons, who all also big fans, and we had a great time.

John in Boston

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 06:45:12 ET
Posted by: A Fan, NY

Joe Girardi fucked the Red Sox last night, so I guess we don't get a Boston setlist.

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 01:47:15 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, anywhysea

I was witness to Methany jamming with The Donald at The Lone Star in NYC. NY Nights show

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 01:19:56 ET
Posted by: Really?, Pat?

Beast - When did Pat play on FM. Where? What? When?

Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 00:17:52 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, wishing he was in boston where they have the best Steely Dan audiences

Pat Metheny has sat in with Donald Fagen....ask Pete Fogel about it since, if I have every detail correct, he was very much involved. Metheny loved stuff from the Royal Scam as the story goes, as my old mind goes.

And Pat Metheny on Shadows and Light was simply brilliant as was Jaco. If you like/love Jaco, check out his Birthday Concert CD. There's a great bio of Jaco and I think some editions come bundled with the Birthday Concert CD.

Best wishes,


Date: Thurs, September 29, 2011, 00:07:37 ET
Posted by: shaverecords, boston

Absolutely amazing tonight in Boston! Great to hear 'time out of mind' again live. Having the girls sing 'dirty work' was incredible! Can't wait to see them again Friday evening!!!!

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 23:57:20 ET
Posted by: I'm no expert, far far arcturus

you want Metheny to freelance at a Joni show
forget it

its her show
you want a Methany show go see him
it's not a who can blister on and on and on
that's selfish.

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 23:46:22 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Gripe, Wondering What's Next, NJ

Just watched Pearl Of The Quarter from Rarities Night... again.

Watching Keith Carlock play such a simple drum pattern on that tune made me think of a great quote Pat Metheny said about being in Joni Mitchell's 1979 touring band. The Shadows and Light touring group consisted of Pat Metheny, Lyle Mays, Jaco Pastorius, Michael Brecker and others.

Of this particular tour, Pat said, "It was like owning a Ferrari and only being able to drive at 40 MPH."

Has anyone here ever heard Pat's solos on FM ? WOW. What I would have given to have been at that gig.

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 22:37:42 ET
Posted by: luke, NJ

Greg M.- Yeah, Walter borrowed that axe from the guy in Cheap Trick.

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 21:05:10 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Ticketless in Boston

Very envious, thefez. Have a blast!

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 20:49:20 ET
Posted by: thefez, Boston

Here at the Wang. Should take the stage any minute now.

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 17:34:23 ET
Posted by: Greg M, ......

Walter playing a "Flying V"???

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 14:40:32 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Looking forward to the reports from
Tonight's Boston Dawn of the Dan show.

Let's hope they rectify the measly
2 hours they played for us in NYC.
And add, East St. Louis Toodle-Oo,
Any Major Dude and Pretzel Logic.
All sadly missing from the Dawn of
the Dead night in NYC.

Anyone tweeting in real-time tonight?

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 14:22:41 ET
Posted by: Just a passing thought,

I wonder if it was "Long Island William" if you catch my drift. That's his way.

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 14:17:55 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -

To the Don heckler, in case you frequent this fine forum:

Shape up man. You are a pathetic human being.

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 13:08:29 ET
Posted by: willy, lohmann

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Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 12:12:52 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, El Segundo Cubicle

Gaucho 14, Steely Dan took the stage at the Beacon almost exactly 1 hour after the scheduled 8:00 PM starting time. They started out with about a two-hour set, but the last 4 shows varied from about 2:20 to 2:35 in duration.

Some of this might depend on the lenght of the opening set. Most of the Sam Yahel sets at the Beacon ended at about 8:37. I think that for Santa Barbara and the Greek his sets were between 20 and 30 minutes, but I have to admit that is something I don't thoroughly document.

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 12:00:49 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass

Have two available tickets for Friday night's Boston show. Seller wants face value which is $195.00 per ticket. Row D in the orchestra section. Email me if interested.

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 10:36:19 ET
Posted by: Gaucho14, Boston

Will be attending the Royal Scam show this Saturday and need to arrange for a babysitter. When was the band taking the stage/wrapping up during the Beacon run?

BTW, the POTQ video that was posted on YouTube is seriously the best live clip I've ever seen of the band. It's the next best thing to hearing it live (which I probably won't this weekend).

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 10:14:56 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA

To all our Boston friends, I hope you get something special over the next few days. Walter and Donald obviously appreciate the reception they get from the Boston crowds, and they might reciprocate. The Second Arrangement could make another appearance, I would speculate perhaps on Request Night. Looking forward to your reports.

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 09:41:13 ET
Posted by: TheFez, Boston

Hoping to hear a song that refers to cobalt cigarettes tonight and perhaps a reference to Felonius ;)

Date: Wed, September 28, 2011, 09:06:46 ET

WONKAVADER, love the airplane reference, helped change K.A.J."S image!! PS: I f*ckn hate when there are no shows, it means no
post, which begets more boredom at work for me!!!DONE BABBLING

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 22:38:46 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

How insidiously rude of a fan to yell such tripe at the Don. Those New Yorkers can be rude at a Yankees game, but at a Steely Dan concert? Really?

I wish Fagen would have told the heckler "Hey, punk,tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes."

Just to shake things up a bit.

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 21:56:15 ET
Posted by: jazz,

seriously that POTQ youtube clip is one of the best i've heard of steely dan live. tearworthy.

not to complain, but i wish there was slide guitar or lap steel (whatever it was) like in the original.

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 21:43:35 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

IE: Pearl of the Quarter video

Wow... that is just disgustingly good. God I hate New York. Lucky fuckers.

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 19:31:41 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

Jive Miguel - Thanks for that Pearl update...I'm jealous all over again. That is a great sound for a phone.

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 18:53:07 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Jive Miguel - excellent link that has much to recommend it, not the least of which is the extended screen time of heartthrob Carolyn L-E.

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 17:13:58 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

"....sangin' voulez voulez voulez vous..."

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 14:51:54 ET
Posted by: Info, I

Live Nation bought out MSG's interest in Frontline Management. But its acts still seem partial to playing MSG owned venues.

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 12:51:58 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

"you polluted whores"......Priceless.

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 12:07:55 ET
Posted by: down in the dumps, the nut house

I am totally suffering from Post Steely Dan Concert Depression....

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 11:29:28 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

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Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 11:08:54 ET

Of all the crowds I have heard and seen through variuos "souvenirs"
over the years, the ones that stood out have been Boston shows, where
the crowd is not only VERY APPRECIATVE they also cheer for certain
lines from a song, for example: after this is your Haitan Divorce,
the Royal Scam, etc, even cheering for Donalds extra "get outta here"
from Black Cow!!! I find this tres cool and I am sure the band digs
it as well!!!Finally I have seen 3 of the 4 shows I ever been to
at the legendary Tower Theater and the crowds were great, but even
they didnt cheer quite like Boston crowds!!PS: my other show was
at the sony blockbuster in Camden ,NJ 2008 and the crowd couldnt hold
a candle to the tower ones!! The show was first rate though.

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 10:55:59 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Reidar,Once again, it was great meeting you. Glad to hear that you made it home safely.Hope that you enjoyed the Jets game.Think of me when you watch my Vikings.

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 10:46:23 ET
Posted by: Fezzie, Boston

I am very interested in getting a "Read" on the Boston audiences this year.It will be the first time the band has played IN Boston with the Colleges in session and you can bet the Berklee have highly suggested to their students that they attend if possible...On a personal note,i have never had the dis-pleasure of sitting next to or around a knucklehead but if that were to happen i would have zero problem speaking to them about whatever issue needed addressing.Funny thing about the word "Respect" whether for the band,the music, their fellow concert goers or themselves,They Listen!!!!

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 10:29:40 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach


Hell of a rant. Some funny stuff and yes, there are a LOT of inconsiderate morons out there. But I'm not sure how cupholders made the hit-list. They are a convenience. If the purpose was to sell MORE overpriced booze (and soft drinks) they would make you keep them on the floor (as they have in the past) so they could be easily kicked over. Of course, they could ban all beverages inside the venue, but THAT would be uncivilized.

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 09:43:20 ET

Great stuff as usual M/O/D/P the only thing I would take exception
to, is the weak bladder comment, being a 40 something fairly hard
partyer, when you gotta go, ya gotta go!!! Even if I did not have
a single drink, I would still need to go a couple times during the show, as my damage has already been done to my body!!! That said
there are obviously ways to do this without ruining the show for people around you. I get that! Ps: At my last show, Fridays Tower
show I managed to hold it in until Walters Hey 19 rap.I know T.M.I.

Date: Tues, September 27, 2011, 01:56:42 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Toronto

What kind of worthless sack of shit would dare to openly taunt Donald Fagen during a live performance? How many kinds are there?

Oh, I could go on and on about ignorant behavior during live concerts. So I will.

As I see it, here's the problem in a nutshell, folks. Way too many people now think of the modern-day concert hall as an extension of their very own living rooms. The musicians on the stage are merely a distraction, a backdrop as it were, to their oh-so-important lives and the minutiae attendant to them. It's that simple. Now, along with all the modern conveniences/contrivances of Those All Too Mobile Phones, combined with TwitBook (tm) and other similarly feculent projects, we have the glory of the completely self-absorbed concertgoer.

This is why the jackass beside me at a recent Roger Waters show opted to spend three full songs from the first set loudly flapping his gums on his "cell phone" about his day at work and his strident opinions of some co-worker I (obviously) never heard of. This is why the five (!) fans (?) with the peanut-sized bladders beside me at the Paul McCartney show a couple of years back kept gettin' up, loadin' up on $17.00 Big Gulp beers, and comin' back to the same seats. Like there wasn't even a show going on. This is also why one of them got on the phone to call some other brain-dead drip to announce, during the ongoing performance, that, "OH MY GOD - HE'S PLAYING 'YESTERDAY' RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!" Yup, that's right, sweetie. For the 1057th time since '66. How nice of you to notice.

Or how about the group of drunken clods right behind me at Toronto's truly awful "Sony Centre" during a recent Gipsy Kings performance? Was it really necessary for them to do noisy play-by-play on every song? Apparently it was. You can only imagine how much our entire row enjoyed hearing two clearly-inebriated cackling hens shriek, "OH NO!!! Not another INSTRUMENTAL!?!!?", when flamenco guitarist Tonino Baliardo started yet another "instrumental" song. Or how we all smiled as we strained to hear the music over the loud and non-stop stream of fascinating personal anecdotes that flowed from behind us? Thanks for coming out and sitting in the ninth row, dead centre, you polluted whores. "They paid for their seats just as you did, sir. They can do as they like", I was told by some rent-an-usher half my age when I dared to complain.

Don't stop me now - I'm on a roll here.....

In the recent past I have seen all of the following, at least once and (sadly) often repeatedly while attempting to enjoy a live musical event:

- Obnoxious/indiscreet/continuous mobile telephone usage.
- Disruptive potty breaks during songs we don't recognize (File under: "Your Gold Teeth" and "Doctor Wu" and "Monkey in Your Soul" and "Third World Man".....among others).
- Incessant loud chatter about stuff that's got nothing to do with the band or the show. "Shut up", I said.
- That one wretched freezer-kid who spent the entire concert playing with himself on a "PSP" (Sadly, a true story, also from the GK "Sony Centre" show).
- "Over-Served Syndrome" AKA Annoying Drunken Meat-Head Disease (Or, conversely, "Loud Arsehole Disorder").
- "CUPHOLDERS". No, really. "Cupholders", securely attached to every goddamned seat in all the newer venues. This is a sure sign that the primary purpose of the room is to sell wildly-overpriced booze. The music is, by necessity, now an afterthought.

Finally, here's one from The Beacon, during The Dan's run in 2008. It was the evening of June 20th, to be precise. Two songs into The Dan's set. and the clumsy ox beside me (a few rows from the front, in the center of the "Loge") still hasn't stopped trying to impress his date by yapping at full volume about his back-catalog of amazing personal exploits. Rather than attempt to beat him into a well-deserved pulp (and very possibly end up with the proverbial brown end of the stick myself), I just turned away from the stage and started staring straight at the loudmouth himself. About a minute or so in, the cute little chicky-choo (quite likely nearing exhaustion from exposure to buddy's lame-o stories) sez to him, "The guy beside you is staring at you!". Baby Huey turns to me and sez, "You gotta problem, dude?" My polite response - "Nope. No problem at all. See, you're louder than the band, and you're closer than the band, so I just thought I'd make it easy on myself and watch YOU for a while. Keep it up, Jack. I'm becoming a real fan." Instead of smashing my face in with one of his picnic-ham-sized fists, he actually sat down and shut the hell up. For the rest of the show. He even apologized to me at the end when the house lights went up. Maybe he learned something that night. I doubt it, though. My guess is that he probably came back to star as the jackass who disrupted Friday night's 21st Century Dan proceedings.

If I had a dollar for every ignorant, show-spoiling sonofabitch I should have exterminated, summarily, on the spot, during a live musical event......well, I'd be the guy on Death Row with roughly $127.00 in cash in his pocket. Give or take a few piasters, we understand. All that concertgoing misery kinda makes the recent and much-debated "flatulence incident" at the Beacon pale by comparison, no?

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Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 23:13:39 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

I believe the MSG partnership also owns the Paramount.

Of course they do own the Chicago Theatre in addition to those NYC venues. It appears that SD played Ravinia instead because the Chicago was booked first for a fashion show. What will be curious is if they go back to Ravina again or come back to the Chicago. The Chicago seats about 3800; Ravina has 3100 in the pavilion but thousands more on the lawn. I hope they come back to the Chicago.

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 22:19:53 ET
Posted by: In The Know, yes

Lurker Ray- Irving Azoff has some type of partnership with James Dolan. This is the reason why SD will never play Roseland again. Dolan owns the Beacon Theater, Madison Square Garden and Radio City Music Hall. Maybe they'll play one of those other NYC venues one day. Not anywhere else as long as Dolan and Azoff/SD are in business together.

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 22:09:37 ET
Posted by: CJB, Youtube Search

Searching YT user "sd2010sd" right now produces some pretty sweet footage of Rarities Night.

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 21:08:12 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the face of the aholes

re the idiot who was yelling at Fagen, see, I am shocked that some hometown New Yawkers didn't immediately put that guy in his place and tell him to shut up. I wouldn't have tolerated that crap for more than a minute. I pay way too much money to have a concert ruined by a mouthbreather like that. I am not that discreet and not really that courteous or tactful, and I don't give a sheeet, so I would have told the guy to shut up right away, and if that didn't work, grabbed an usher and forced him to earn his minimum wage paycheck. I have a very low tolerance for people talking during the middle of a song etc.

It sounds like he was there for the "party" and to impress his probably disease riddled date. That's too bad. I hope they both suffer from a raging case of herpes so foul that it prevents them from procreating.

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 20:56:43 ET
Posted by: jazz,

thanks for info Hoops.

i'd still rather have a deep cut, but i understand why- totally reasonable.

glad to hear boston crowds are the best. i'm looking forward to it. the last times i saw them was at the Hard Rock in Hollywood, FL. Terrible venue. nothing too notable about the crowd either.

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 18:32:33 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu - Waiting Out Obamageddon Monday Traffic


Thanks for the report Mike.

"C'mon Don! You're tired! You can't sing! give us 5 shows, Tops!, you can't handle 7!! You're TIRED!!" I know Donald and the brats heard him, I could see it in the girls faces for the entire next song. A look like they were sidetracked, upset and disappointed from what they heard. It upset me, and had me out of focus for several minutes"

So great to see that the "love" from
the hometown crowd was once again
flowing from the Beacon crowd. But as
nasty as that NYC comment is, perhaps
it really "got to" Donald and perhaps
he & Walter will have a conversation
about "Why are we doing these NYC runs
at the Beacon?" And perhaps they will
consider Roseland again. The "General
Admission" floor fills the place with
"real fans" who are up close to the
stage. Or maybe they start doing longer
engagements in other places like they did
in 2009. Either one would be better than
the Beacon and the disrespect that was sadly
shown on many of the nights there this year.

"Another thing, at the Tower, there is a PIT section, which takes up that whole unused, rounded off portion of the stage. Why dont they disassemble that part at the Beacon and fill it with another 100 seats?"

Yet another reason to ditch the Beacon.

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 18:25:51 ET
Posted by: hoop, chicago, on the quick


I wasn't there when the played Dirty Water but when they did, I recall that it was played as a THIRD song during encore--beyond the normal set--in homage to the audience which went nuts. For those who don't know, Dirty Water is an anthem of sorts for Bostonians.

BTW: Boston almost always has the best audiences. So I'm loathe to miss Boston SD shows. And it also seems like half the time a fist fight breaks out during the show, keeping it real.


Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 18:19:59 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Not really Dangential, except in the breach, but I was at a gathering last night that included several forty-somethings. A couple of them commented that they had recently seen Journey, and one said that it was the first concert he had seen in years. Someone else said something to the effect of, well, you won't need to see anyone else after seeing Journey, implying that you couldn't top a Journey concert. Several others nodded or murmurred in agreement.

I started to take issue with this nonsense that then decided, WTF, I can't get anywhere with people who think like this. But I guess that it's evidence that you can never really shake the music that you listen to while you're coming of age. The best thing I can do for them is to slide Royal Scam, Aja, or Gaucho into the CD player the next time I'm around them.

Or maybe I've missed it, and I need to crank up the Journey.

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 18:14:43 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa

Mike the Baker, I enjoyed your recap. The last SD show I was able to go to was in Orlando in '07 and I was also surrounded by fans who seemed to enjoy talking all night rather than focusing in on music.
Now that the tour is almost done, I think we can look back fondly on it as a true success. Like "The Boston Rag" on the 2000 tour (which I still think was their best tour), "The Caves of Altimira" on the '03 tour and more recently "Everything you Did" in '08, this year's tour saw the our boys master "Your Gold Teeth" and they really mastered "Pearl of the Quarter" even though they only performed it live on a couple of the Beacon shows.
My personal highlight was their performing of "The Second Arrangement" which was the only "lost" tune, IMO, that had the true Steely Dan sound. To hear them perform it was a dream come true for me.
I like the idea of a 40th anniversary boxed set or something that would enable us to get a studio produced copy of some of the Beacon shows or the Best of Steely Dan live. The band has improved so much since the "Alive in America" recording that other live tracks from subsequent tours need to be released for all of posterity.
Now that they've done most of their classics live, about the only songs I'm still dying to hear would be "Here at the Western World", "Blues Beach", "Almost Gothic" and "Rose Darling".
Enjoy the rest of the tour good SD'ers...Steve

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 14:59:12 ET
Posted by: Andromeda, NYC

DYLYNFAN, wasn't complaining about the comparative lack of energy during the Scam set (versus the 21stc set), was more just reporting. I too think that it's understandable they'd be a bit more jazzed to be playing newer stuff.

So sorry to hear about the heckler. Wonder why he even bothered going to the show.

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 14:23:18 ET
Posted by: PGE, @mikethebaker: That a**hole final night

Yes, mikethebaker, I had the "pleasure" and "privilege" sitting in front of that guy. He had his autumn leaves collage colored shirt unbuttoned and shouting his insults until a guy to his left told him he was really ruining it for all who wanted to enjoy the show.

With that he slumped back in his seat and was quiet for a few songs before starting over again. You failed to mention his wolfwhistling that probably helped me a few Hz toward permanent hearing damage.

And when the hits portion started - Josie, Peg, My Old School - he was up "dancing" with his female companion, waving about. May I add to this that due to my close proximity to the guy I can report that he a) couldn't sing and b) clapped along without being able to keep time.

Yes, his early utbursts from fourth row did reach Donald and the Embasssy Brats. I saw what you saw.
Not familiar with the US way during concerts, but he was clearly disturbing the whole section and it would've been nice to see one of the security - who must've seen and heard him - tell him to shut up or even escort him out from the premises.

After Pretzel Logic I turned around to snap a pic of him with my phone to be able to put his face on the internet with a specially dedicated URL like (or some such), but he and his date was already gone. Probably out to have a couple more drinks and lower the quality of life in some other part of New York.

I am sure the pair live a miserable life...

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 12:29:51 ET
Posted by: ygk, nyc

What a nasty thing to say during a show...just downright wrong and disrespectful...

I will spare you my long ramble on what I see as a new Culture of Rude which is directly proportional to the proliferation of cell phones/devices.

Suffice to say, that I wouldn't mind going out in public so much if it weren't for all the people...

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 11:57:26 ET

Great stuff MIKETHBAKER, could not agree with you more about the high
energy of the TOWER crowds, super into it, huge ovation after every
F*CKN song!!! What an all-time dick move by that guy at the BEACON!!
I am glad to hear the fans were very into the show, save for the
outcasts near you.for some clean-up: I concur with BASICINSTINCT that THE DEAN was spot-on in his commentary!! As far
as which show was better, or which song-list was better, in this
case it is splitting hairs, they were both INSTANT CLASSICS!!!
ANDOMEDA, as for the band being especially into the newer stuff
they seldom play, it reminds me alot of DYLAN, in that whenever he
plays something from his past few albums his energy level seems to
shoot straught up and he is more animated!! He often goes thru the
motions on several of the tunes he has been playing for 48 years
or so. Who can blame him or Steely Dan for that!! HUMAN NATURE!!
Thankfully that seldom happens with Steely Dan, not the case with
Dylan however!!Fianlly a mea culpa to all you Buffalo Bills fans
(there seem to be alot of them on the blue)!! You guys rock!!!
I certainly didnt see this coming!!DONE BABBLING

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 11:35:26 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in pennsylvania

I wanted to comment on something I have never experienced before at a SD show, and I'm pushing 20 shows now. Saturday night at the Beacon I was thrilled to be down front, in between Donald and the brats. One would think that everyone in the first few rows would be pretty die hard fans. Well, I was the third seat in off the aisle. There was a couple to my left, and the lady pretty much had her face flopped into her palm for most of the show. The only indications of her being alive were the grumblings she would belch out to her date about how it was too loud and she was not having a good time. She also got up during Caves, and didn't return until Haitian Divorce. He seemed to mildly enjoy the show but also was ready to split before Pretzel Logic encore. The couple to my right was quite stoic, showing no displeasure or excitement, the whole frigging show. Of course I was grooving the entire time... Now let me rewind to the second show at the Tower where the couple to the left of us was hard core jamming the entire time and whose faces are still probably frozen with a huge smile. There was also a father/son pair to the right of us that were looking at each other, smiling, freaking out and rocking out singing "is there gas in the car?!?" to each other, yeah, at the time they looked like all-star dorks, but after being surrounded by deadbeats on Saturday, I wish my neighbors from the Tower were next to me instead.

But here is the real pisser from Saturday, and I hope someone here on the blue noticed this guy too. This one guy, maybe drunk, maybe just an a-hole was siting in about the third row, a couple seats in from the aisle on Donalds side in the center section. Ok, I admit Don's voice was a little strained mostly until he left stage during Fez, after that, and especially during 21st Century he was spot on... But anyway, to the point... When it got a bit quiet between some songs, this guy yelled out "C'mon Don! You're tired! You can't sing! give us 5 shows, Tops!, you can't handle 7!! You're TIRED!!" I know Donald and the brats heard him, I could see it in the girls faces for the entire next song. A look like they were sidetracked, upset and disappointed from what they heard. It upset me, and had me out of focus for several minutes. I had considered turning around and punching the guy in his throat, but that prob wouldn't have gone over too well...

Obvi, the couwd as a whole was super into the show. But it seemed to me that the people in the first few rows weren't there because they were big fans. But there instead because the tickets didn't sell for $600 on a broker site, and used them by default, or, they were just rich New Yorkers that bought the tickets just because they could afford them and impress themselves. I just felt a much better energy at the Tower.

Another thing, at the Tower, there is a PIT section, which takes up that whole unused, rounded off portion of the stage. Why dont they disassemble that part at the Beacon and fill it with another 100 seats? Thats one of the great things about the Tower, is that the band is Right There. It's at a height that you can lean forward and rest your elbows on, and brings the entire band another 15-20 feet closer to the crowd. done rambling....

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 10:46:43 ET
Posted by: jazz,


Thanks for reassurance. But why Dirty Water? Another waste of a song in a preciously short set list.

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 10:11:20 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA


Sorry we missed you the last two shows, and that we could not say goodbye in person. Great meeting you and thanks for the t-shirt.

And thanks Jim for your efforts.

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 09:58:10 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Thanks to everyone for their patience with the pharmaceutical debris. I wasn't in a position to apply the fix over the weekend...but now the fix is in.

There's been a plethora of posts that I have been unable to keep up with -- so sorry if I miss yours.

In response to one: I'm sure that they will play Boston Rag in Boston, at least once. I know they played Dirty Water at least once before and I would bet in favor that they will again.

Don Breithaupt:
Thanks for the heads up about your Dan segment...any chance they will put that up on an archive like NPR often does? That would be sweet.



Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 06:36:49 ET
Posted by: Reidar, Norway

Back in Norway after a magical trip to NYC. First of all, thanks to SD for brilliant concerts. I also want to say hello to all the new SD friends that I met during my stay. Hope those of you who got my t-shirts take good care of them and use them proudly. Too many to mention, but thanks for the champagne Don and say hello to your wife. I only hope SD let me make a trip like this one again.

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 03:09:48 ET
Posted by: duncan , UK

Thank's for the pictures Henrod
Nice video's too, Never seen Walt playing a flying V before either.


Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 00:15:09 ET
Posted by: Re: Chain Lightning,

Jon Herington, during his shows, always gives a shout out to "his employer" Steely Dan and follows that up with "Chain Lightning"

Date: Mon, September 26, 2011, 00:01:11 ET
Posted by: rag,

here's to hopin they bring back the boston rag for the boston shows...

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 23:25:13 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Don, looks like I missed your show, but i think I already heard it a while back. You do excellent work.

I was a bit busy watching, and then celebrating my Buffalo Bills' victory over the hated Cheatriots. Still reeling a bit, i suppose.

Andromeda, Walt's leaning/sitting has been much discussed here. I'm not going to get involved in speculating about someone's health with no info. But needless to say, he has been doing a bit of leaning/sitting throughout the tour. It wasn't Larry Carlton related.

And, while I don't have the exact data, I don't think Chain Lightning is one of the most played Dan tunes. Not even close. OTOH I wouldn't exactly call it a rarity.

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 21:24:15 ET
Posted by: Fact, Right on

Mr Lapage- Chain Lightning was played just as many times as most of those songs on your list. Not all, but most.

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 20:13:23 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Toronto

I too would like to thank Mr. Breithaupt for the radio program mentioned earlier. I missed it this time, but I thoroughly enjoyed it the first time around. It was great to hear a musically-knowledgable host speaking about our favourite band, especially on a jazz-oriented station.

Hopefully most here are already familiar with Mr. Breithaupt's insightful book on the Aja album (it's #46 in the "33 1/3" series published by Continuum), but for those who aren't I recommend it very highly. It is extremely well-written, musically in-depth, and an all-round great read - as good or better than anything written about the subject specifically, or about Steely Dan generally. This is one book worth searching for.

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 19:48:01 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata


First of all, I envy the fact that you've seen 22 shows!

Always thought Chain Lightning would be a perfect live tune. Slow, plush, straight ahead blues, tailor made for showcasing Jon, Jim and the horn section for solos. They could funk it up like Show Biz, even use it for band intros. Signature SD chords.

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 19:26:34 ET
Posted by: Random, East Coast Fan

In 22 concerts, the only time I've heard Chain Lightning was Wallingford, CT in 2007. As to why it doesn't get played more, my guess is that it's one of Fagen's favorites and he feels the live vibe doesn't do it justice.

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 19:08:57 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

Really sorry to see this site getting whacked by the daggone spammers. I guess the generic pharmacy idiots have targeted this site among the millions that they attack.

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 18:57:05 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Been to 10 shows: '94, 2000, '03, '06 (2), '08 (2), '09 (2), '11, and haven't heard Chain Lightning yet, much as I'd love to.

Rotterdam '07:

Then there's the NY Rock & Soul Review w/ Drew Zingg, Cornelius Bumpus (RIP), Jeff Young, Catherine Russell, Mike McDonald, et al:

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 18:33:16 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

Also, there is no way Chain Lightning has been played more than:

Hey Nineteen
Black Friday
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
Reelin in the Years
Green Earrings
Time Out of Mind

over the years

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 18:27:29 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

4 Beacon Shows in 5 days? Damn. May a horde of locusts infest your left nostril Gus Winterbottom.

I did see a 2006 show and I can't remember whether they played Chain Lightning at that show. I don't think they did, but I will have to check the setlists.

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 17:11:47 ET
Posted by: Don Breithaupt, Toronto

Muchas gracias, BC!

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 17:11:43 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

First You Tube posting of the opening "Dizzy's Business":

That'll grab your attention.

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 16:47:10 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,

Great job Don w/ your radio Dan segment.

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 16:45:55 ET
Posted by: Nice!!, Yeah baby

This Pretzel is making me thirsty...for more clips like this!

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 16:42:37 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata


Thanks for the update.

4 Beacon shows in 5 nights? Amazing. Hog heaven!

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 16:15:21 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA


One measure I have for Donald's range is his ability to hit the four high notes of the EMG title track. I have had the good luck to hear this done four times: Mohegan Sun 2007, Santa Barbara and the Greek earlier this year, and on Friday's show. For the first three of those shows he had varying degrees of trouble on one or more of them. For the show last Friday, he didn't try; the lines, "And light up all the luckies", etc. were basically spoken. So at least for that show, his range was limited. This is just my observation, and not a complaint. I wish EMG could be in the setlist every night, irrespective of any range limits.

As to Donald's overall vocal strength, it is good, if I am any judge. I thought he had two strong performances on Monday and Tuesday. I think that on Tuesday he needed Kid C. to warm up, but the rest of the show sounded fine to me. After taking Wednesday off, I thought he was even stronger on Thursday, probably the strongest of the last four Beacon shows.

It is encouraging that Donald can bounce back after only a day's rest. It took my wife and me that long to recover from four Beacon shows in five days, and all we have to do is show up.

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 15:23:44 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Question for Beacon-goers:

How are Donald's pipes holding up?

We watched the Musikfest show in Bethlehem PA on 8/10/11, and Don was spot-on with near perfect pitch, hitting high notes with relative ease.

I watched 2 You Tube clips from the 8/23 Beacon show, Kid C and Haitian, and he seemed to be struggling with the high notes.

I was reading some random blog where someone made the comment that Donald "always had limited range", and I thought to myself just how preposterous such a statement is, given just how demanding SD vocals are. Just try singing Black Cow at your local karaoke bar.

This is a long, demanding tour, already with 48 shows in 80+ days, and I'm glad that Don has a solid 5 days before Wang in Boston.

That being said, I love this band. The Musikfest show was my 10th since Irvine CA in 9/94, and these guys are right at the top of their game.

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 15:15:57 ET
Posted by: Andromeda, NYC

One last thing: Anyone else wonder what was up with Walter at these NYC shows? Well I can't speak for all of them, I was only there Saturday night, but he didn't seem really "into it" and was leaning against something (I think?) for a few of the songs (might be misremembering)... not sure if he just didn't want to steal Larry's thunder or what. Just wondering if that's his usual self or what.

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 15:11:24 ET
Posted by: Don Breithaupt, Toronto


Friends, Romans, music nerds: JAZZ.FM is rerunning my "Jazz Backstory" special on Steely Dan today (Sunday) at 4:00 p.m. Eastern. 91.1 FM in Toronto, or stream it here:

(Would have let you guys know sooner, but I just found out it was on when JAZZ.FM tweeted it 40 mins ago!)

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 14:09:01 ET
Posted by: ted, Seattle

Young Wu has a point. Since 1993 Black Friday and Chain Lightning were played live more than any other SD songs. Expect for maybe Green Earrings (and Josie & Peg)

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 12:20:50 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

Mr. LaPage... did you see them in 2006? I know they played it several times on that tour. I really liked the way they did it, a nice little jam and I think Becker did the introductions during it (but I might be wrong).

There are probably 20 songs I would rather hear before Chain Lightning, but I'm glad they played it because it's the only time I've seen it... and any Katy Lied song that isn't Black Friday is always a rare treat.

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 12:11:30 ET
Posted by: Mr LaPage, in the den

@moray eel re Chain Lightning

yep, I saw the 93 tour. I just think it would be a great stretch out staple tune for this band, and its a shame they don't revisit it more.

Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 09:05:50 ET
Posted by: moray eel, chi

LaPage: They played the hell out of Chain Lightning during the early 90s.

Rock and Soul, 93, 94, etc... they did it almost every night. Maybe DF got tired of playing it. It certainly wasn't as big of a hit as other staples like Peg and Hey 19.


Date: Sun, September 25, 2011, 06:39:22 ET
Posted by: Ann, Borneo

Just listening to BBC Radio 2 on line, where Terry Wogan is interviewing Julian Lennon. Julian has just stated that apart from the Beatles, one of his main influences is Steely Dan.
Here's the site
Usually these shows are available as pod casts for a week after broadcast.

Hope you're all enjoying the tour..... (envy!!)

Peace to all from a very sizzling Borneo,


Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 21:26:19 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY

All pix are from my Canon SD750. Not too bad in low light. The videos that zoom are from the Canon, and the full stage-only, HD videos are from my iPhone. They're all downloadable from the site should you care to have a copy.

Song titles were assigned, but seem to have been lost in the upload. There are snippets from EMG, Janie Runaway, TvN, Dirty Work, Cousin Dupree, Gaslighting Abbie, and Jim Beard's entire solo into Josie.


Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 21:10:29 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

re Pretzel, I know its been played over the years with some frequency, I guess it just seems like somewhat of a rarity to me because I think I have only caught it maybe twice in the 8-9 shows I have seen since 93. And many times it seems like I miss it by one show, ie they do it the show before or right after the one I see (see, ie Kansas City after St Louis this year, Beacon 21st show after Rarities etc).

But yes, its certainly not a Doctor Wu type rarity.

No one has answered my Chain Lightning question yet---why don't you think they play that more?

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 17:08:44 ET
Posted by: luke, NJ

I went to 5 out the 7 shows including Rarities night and last night. The best show by far was this past Tuesdays Royal Scam night. The one without Carlton. They played better and sounded better than the other 4 shows I attended.

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 14:41:27 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

LWO: Thanks for taking the high road. Personally, I think you were too polite. Simply posting "Fuck you, Sam" would have been highly succinct, deserved and apropos.

Sadly, I can't sit and wait for the text messages to come in and no one I know well has stepped up to tweet so I'm grateful that Kevin showed me how to pipe in Tee's Shuffle Diplomacy FB here; and thanks to Tee.

Thanks for taking the time to post the setlists Gail and Gus.


I can't say whether the band played better last night or rarities night or Aja night or...even though I was only at rarities night, I'd place my bets that they played better last night.

But one thing I am certain of: the rarities night was historic in terms of Steely Dan, the fandom and much of Rock and Roll history. Given about five factors that I will list at some point, that's why it ranks up there. I'm hoping to put together a special web page talking about it. For example, fifteen years ago, if you brought up "Second Arangement" SD would quickly dismiss it as a topic of dicussion; moreover, do you know how many hours (I'd say DAYS we've dance around discussion of the 2nd Arr. in this forum and all the haggling over boots with it; how many times it's been discussed and requested and argued over and... Then consider that to touch that song, D + W would have to go back to a time in their lives that by many accounts really sucked for them in so many ways...Forgive me for making that sound too dramatic, but I don't think it's something they relished performing all these years. Regardless, something has hugely shifted. It's probably not the exact same story with American Lovers, Mobile Home, etc. but there was this shift.

I believe there is a mathematical formula for Steely Dan miracles. On Saturday night we saw that formula calculated with new values for several variables.

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 14:00:37 ET
Posted by: Ian, LA

Mr. Lapage - Steely Dan has played Pretzel Logic a ton of the years. It's far from being a raritie.

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 12:21:14 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, Really?

Hi Sam

Sorry to have offended you with throwing up the first part of the setlist last night. I was leaving work after my fifth 12 hour day since coming back from NYC and didn't see a live feed. Maybe I forgot to refresh my browser or some dumb old thing.

As for stealing Tee's thunder, dude, you better check yourself. I've known Toya since 2001, consider part of my extended family and gave up a backstage pass originally offered to me to her at the Dawn of the Dan show.

Sorry, Jim. I know I shouldn't feed the bums here. Sometimes you just get tired of the BS.

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 12:12:21 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, twisted in a pretzel of logic

Sounds like a great show, I would have loved to hear Scam plus the new stuff. Surprised they didn't do the regular Jack of Speed. And damn, they also got Pretzel Logic? What gives with pulling that out on shows other than Rarities night? I guess they don't consider it a rarity.....

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 11:14:47 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

Looking at last night's setlist, they played the amount of 21st century songs (6) I expected, but I'm a bit surprised Lunch with Gina wasn't played since it's made it to a solid handful of sets this tour. I wasn't there, so obviously I can't speak to the performance of the show, but I'm not disappointed with the six 21st century songs they chose to play. No, those aren't my top six 21st century Dan tunes (and if you include Morph the Cat, that would probably take a good portion of my list), but you had a nice surprise with Gaslighting Abbie... and Everything Must Go is such a great song (in my opinion) that it might make the entire set worthwhile.

It's also worth noting some of the "selected hit" they decided to forego. Was this the first time since the reunion in 1993 that Hey Nineteen wasn't played at a Steely Dan show? (not counting Dukes of September, Donald Fagen '06, or any one-off type shows). Some other commonly played songs that weren't played last night:

- Black Friday
- My Old School
- Time Out of Mind (been played on every other show on this tour, I believe)
- Show Biz Kids (see Time Out of Mind)
- Aja (been played at most shows this tour)
- Your Gold Teeth (see Aja)

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 11:07:15 ET
Posted by: bassicinstinct, Nottingham UK

"I have no issue with those who prefer the setlist from Rarities night. (I'm sure there are days I will prefer it, too. Just like some days I think Countdown is the best album, and other days I think it's Scam and other days I think it is...) But we know there are some here who think "the rarer the song the better it is". Hell, there are one or two posters here who seem to think anything SD hasn't released is better than everything they have. IMO "rare" is a good quality but "rarer" doesn't always equal better."

Excellent point well made I think!!

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 10:31:58 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

I am insane? Perhaps. I was also a bit tipsy. Originally I had typed "possibly better", then changed it to the way it reads now.

As I said some time ago, hearing nuggets like 2nd Arrangement, The Bear and American Lovers is very nice. But to a large extent the specialness is due to the rareness of it being performed. While I would love to be among the few who experienced these live, I think overall the song selection last night might be better material than rarities night.

I admit I have not yet compared the list song-by-song (I will look at them later in the day) so I am working from a general impression and vague recollection of what was played on Rarities night. But I really dig the 21st Century stuff (Cousin Dupree is just OK, but the rest are brilliant). Add Caves, DTMA, Sign in Stranger, Everything you Did, Royal Scam, Pretzel Logic and Haitian Divorce and you have an incredibly strong (and diverse) set. Many of these tunes are lightly played if not true rarities. Add Carlton to the mix and you really have a special show.

I have no issue with those who prefer the setlist from Rarities night. (I'm sure there are days I will prefer it, too. Just like some days I think Countdown is the best album, and other days I think it's Scam and other days I think it is...) But we know there are some here who think "the rarer the song the better it is". Hell, there are one or two posters here who seem to think anything SD hasn't released is better than everything they have. IMO "rare" is a good quality but "rarer" doesn't always equal better.

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 10:26:46 ET
Posted by: Rockaway Beach, NYC

What's not to like.
Glad to hear Carlton delivered, not surprised.
This group is the greatest group that ever was.
Talent, carisma, and fun to watch.
So to all of you that were dissapointed in this years tour, find another band to follow.
To all of us, see you, next year.
signing off from Rockaway.

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 10:10:14 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Manhattan, for a short time longer

NYC 21st Century Dan Setlist, 23 Sept 2011

Intro: Dizzy's 9:02 PM

The Royal Scam (Album)

Two Against Nature
Gaslighting Abbie
Janie Runaway
Cousin Dupree
Everything Must Go
Papa Don't Mess/Band Intros
Dirty Work
Reelin' In The Years

Encore: Pretzel Logic
Outro: The Untouchables Theme, ~11:30 PM

I know this was tweeted, but I thought I should transcribe it anyway.
We're a little rushed here so please excuse the multiple posts and other goofs. Very briefly, This show did not quite live up to my expectations, chiefly with The Royal Scam portion of the set. I'll try to organize my thoughts on the flight home.

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 09:39:31 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

The Dan appears to be wrapping up the US tour in fine fashion. I was just watching some Beacon highlights on YT and I gotta say that one of the greatest songs which really surprised me the two shows I saw, which punched me in the face, was "Bodhisattva".

That song truly kicked ass and energized that crowd and put the shows in Louisville and St. Louis in overdrive. Great song and great placement in the set.

Rock on, boys!

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 09:32:57 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, West 78th Street for the next 90 minutes

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 09:13:37 ET
Posted by: CJB, Suburban NJ, waiting for my flight

About last night...

I've been to 10 shows now, and last night, at least from my perspective in the 5th row, just left of center, was the best of all of them. I agree with a few others folks who've posted here that: 1/ the band was on fire, all night, even with a few blown lyrics up front during KC; 2/ Walter and Larry looked very happy playing with each other, W. occasionally smiling (!); 3/ incredible energy for the 21st c. tunes, esp. "Gaslighting" and "Dupree"; and, 4/ W&D looking really surprised and pleased at the intensity of crowd energy, esp. pre-encore. Also, 5/ Pretzel Logic!

Rarities Night & 21st Century Night. What great bookends to a trip. And what a great pleasure to see what's one of the world's best working bands playing at the highest end of its capabilities. (Horn Guy who sat in w/ Sam Yahel tonight was pretty great, too).

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 06:37:30 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in pennsylvania

Thrilled to see Cousin Dupree for the first time live tonight. That is the song that got me into SD back in 2000. Yeah, I know, I'm way behind you old heads! ;) So much to comment on, but so much baking to do first! Pure adrenaline is keeping me going now...

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 01:06:10 ET
Posted by: Andromeda, NYC

Hi all, reporting from NYC! Definitely a great show overall. I was in the second (i.e., the top) balcony and it looked like a real sellout.

In my view, the "21st century" stuff onwards was so much better than the Royal Scam album played all the way through. Not even close. I'd be curious to see if others felt the same way. The Royal Scam play-through seemed almost perfunctory until Everything You Did. I thought Haitian Divorce especially was wan. Seemed to me that Donald cared a lot more about the 21st century stuff... he'd miss every few notes (by "miss" I mean miss the microphone) on songs like Haitian Divorce but was totally "on" for songs like Janie Runaway and Gaslighting Abbie. I just loved the energy for the newer stuff. My only wish would have been to trade in half of the Royal Scam songs for more of the newer stuff. I was really hoping for Almost Gothic and Pixeleen (I know, I know, never gonna happen) but guess it wasn't to be. Still a great night. Heard lots of positive remarks from the audience on my way out.

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 00:27:14 ET
Posted by: Tim The Tool Man, The Shore

Dean & Deluca - Dean & The Wet Dreams
WOW! That was a set for the ages. An even better than Rarities night, IMO. And that's hard to believe.<<
Even better than Rarities Night? Not even close bro, not even close.
WTF are you starved for entertainment down there bro. You should have seen Larry in 09 that was some shit.

Date: Sat, September 24, 2011, 00:25:54 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Thanks to Kevin for the link up to Tee/Toya's Twitter feed. seems to have worked.

Dean: you are insane.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 23:57:38 ET
Posted by: Henrod, NYC

Encore = Pretzel Logic. What a fuckin' AWESOME SHOW! I'll get some video up over the weekend.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 23:57:32 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

WOW! That was a set for the ages. An even better than Rarities night, IMO. And that's hard to believe.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 23:53:17 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston

What WonkaVader said.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 23:49:04 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

Man, that sounds like a great concert. Yow-za! Rack 'em! I would be holding on to that ticket stub for memories in the future. That is one helluva set list boys.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 22:26:26 ET
Posted by: Sam,

Tee Smith is already doing a good job of tweeting us the set list from her Facebook account. See above. Are you trying to steal her thunder after all her trouble?

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 22:17:24 ET
Posted by: Tonight's Setlist (So Far), From Danfiend

Royal Scam and 21st Century thus far

Kid C
Caves of Altimira
Don't Take Me Alive
Sign in Stranger
The Fez (en Espanol)
Green Earrings
Haitian Divorce
Everything You Did (SMOKING!!!!)
Royal Scam (Amazing)

Gaslighting Abbie
Janie Runaway
Cuz Dupree

Larry Carlton is tearing it up!

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 21:41:34 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

Mr. LaPage, I know it's all opinion, but I personally would much rather hear the song Black Friday over Chain Lightning. I am glad I heard Bad Sneakers at the Louisville show.

It's all good Mister, it's all good. Hope you enjoy the show tonight.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 20:01:23 ET
Posted by: Mean Old Daddhy, The Mermaid Cafe

The next Steely Dan box set should include Steely Dan's unreleased 2000 cover of Joni Mitchell's Carey.

That song should have been made available by now.

Maybe if you're lucky they'll play it tonight. ;-p

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 18:16:10 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

Interesting the talk in here about venues and acoustics. Some of these older theaters like the Beacon and Tower have the nostalgic feel but the sound is inconsistent. I haven't been in either but lets face it, technology in the early 1900's was light years behind. And as LR said lipstick doesn't really change what it is, an old theater venue. Not sure about the Wang. I saw Donald at the Chicago Theater and was very happy with the sound but in the United Center it was just average. I know where I wont go to concert to see a band like Steely Dan is a large outdoor venue. As least the one here in Houston. The sound on the lawn is terrible and unless your front/ center and under the cover, its a waste of money. Now small outdoor venues on a quiet night like I expereinced in Albuquerque was excellent. And the Pearl is one I'm going to try to go to as well since it is newer and indoors and should have great acoustics.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 16:44:11 ET
Posted by: Bob, Texas

Let's close out tonight with a bang!!

Post those reports and set list as we go.

Thanks and enjoy the show kids.................

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 16:34:45 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando

I, too, as a casual fan with relatively speaking probably only a slightly higher Dan-IQ than your average concert bear, would love to hear Chain Lightning in place of something like a BF.

I think something slinky like that could be used for band intro's even, and be a real crowd pleaser.


Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 16:08:06 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY

Just spent a little time listening to my EMG DVD 5.1 disc. Hadn't played it in ages, and man, I just can't wait to hear Walt tonight! That man can really blow, and hearing his parts just above and behind me on the left side is so damn cool - you can almost hear him breathing.

So tonight's 21st Century, AND Royal Scam, AND Larry Carlton? What did I do to deserve this? Nothing they play or don't play could possibly ruin this evening for me.

I hope to make it to the Ale House for a quick brew before the show. My train gets into Penn at 6:08, so I think I can make it. Subway lets out on 79th, so maybe I can walk between the raindrops?


Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 15:57:52 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

Michael... just fooling around with ya. I think your stuff is great, but has just as much chance of happening as the nude shots.

Looking forward to tonight's setlist. Although I'm not expecting anything superb.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 15:47:57 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, wishing I was at the Amsterdam Ale House

I am a little mystified as to why Chain Lightning is not a regular part of the Dan setlist over something like, oh, Black Friday. Its a pretty straightforward bluesy tune and would be a tune that the whole band could get an opportunity to stretch out on, including multiple guitar solo opps for Walter and Herrington. Seems to me this would be a natural concert crowd pleaser, like it was on the 93 tour.

Just don't get it.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 15:43:39 ET
Posted by: angel, LA

PGE: I totally agree with you. People getting up to go to the restroom, right from the start. I have no clue as to what their problem is. You can't sit for a concert you spent a fortune for? Seriously.

Gus: I also want to state (and I am not the only one) that the Beacon crowd (even with all of us there) were the most subdued bunch I have ever seen. Now I know the seats were hard to get in and out of, but seriously, you don't dance or stand during Bodhisattva? Really?

Oh well, to each his or her own.

Have a good last concert tonight.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 15:30:04 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Thanks for all of the reports.
So yet another "By Popular Demand"
night that was not all that "popular".
Hey at least you guys got thrown
Rikki. LA, Chicago and Milwaukee
didn't even get that nugget. So now
it looks like that they will be leaving
NYC after this "historic" 7 show run
without playing Bad Sneakers or Any
Major Dude.

Gus I think your remarks on the sound last
night just goes to show that even with
the lovely restoration of the Beacon,
it still is just lipstick on an acoustic
pig. I mean really, it's your 6th night
playing in the space and yet they are STILL
working on the sound? So sad that Roseland
holds just as many people, nobody has a bad
seat or general admission view and I don't
recall anyone ever complaining about the
sound at the Roseland.


"I dont know if these New York crowds take the band for granted or what, but for christ sake show some love!!!"

Last Saturday night, everyone I talked to
before the show was from out of town and
came in for Rarities night and by the crowd
reactions it showed. How do you leave during
Godwhacker? Even if you don't know the tune,
that groove, those horns - how do you leave?
I think perhaps Thomas Wolfe was right, your
hometown isn't always going to show you the
love & respect you were counting on.

Looking forward to the reports tonight and
have a great show and safe travels home all
wherever you are going.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 14:54:33 ET

Thanx Gus!!! Couldnt agree more!!

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 14:37:21 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Manhattan, Raining


Per the Danfest Page, the Amsterdam Ale House is the pre-show meeting place. It is on Amsterdam Avenue at W. 76th Street, about one block NE. of the Beacon lobby. With this weather a meetup is likely going to be inside only. For past shows the overflow crowd could simply meet on the sidewalk outside; I am hoping the rain will let up within the next couple of hours, but I don't think that is the forecast. Under the circumstances, I am not sure when or how long we will be there this evening.


Last Saturday we met some Bluebook posters from the Philadelphia area. After the Rarities show, one of them told me that the Tower crowds were much more energetic than what he had seen at the Beacon. I can't recall if he had been here before Rarities night. I won't post his handle here; he can weigh in at his discretion.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 14:26:46 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

@PGE Hope the last night is good as always,a fine send off.Safe travel home for you and Reidar.Thanks to both of you for the great gifts!My wife thinks you guys are the greatest!!And to any others that we met last week, who are still in tour mode,Enjoy!!!


Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 14:14:43 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY

Will there be a pre-show gathering tonight? When? Where?

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 14:06:02 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

the request night setlist is not surprising to me and is pretty much to be expected. Those that go to the "request nights" would tend to be the more casual fan, and would tend to request the hits. The hits or more commonly played on the radio tunes will always get more requests. The deeper catalog stuff that is rarely played will be requested by diehards, but those of us who are diehards will be all over the map with what we want, thus spreading the vote out amongst a wide variety of songs. Other than tunes like Doctor Wu, Pretzel Logic, maybe Royal Scam and Bad Sneakers, I can't see any of the more rarely played songs getting enough internet hits to withstand the more mundane requests for "Josie", "Do it Again" etc by people who aren't going to the specific album shows.

I am surprised they would have played Home at Last over Deacon Blues, as HAL is more of a rarity and Deacon Blues is a pretty popular tune even for the casual fan

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 13:03:13 ET
Posted by: Dave,


Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 13:02:03 ET
Posted by: Dave, you maybe crazy

Beast- Cat Russell never payed in Billy Joel's band

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 12:15:53 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Name, Rarites, NJ

Tonight's show historic ? Really ?

Two years ago I saw Larry Carlton play Royal Scam night. He also played Third World Man, which for me, was historic. I also thought that Jon Herington, having been far more familiar with the charts, probably would have played a better solo. I hate saying that, but I think it's true.

The material from 2vN and to a lesser degree EMG, while historic in terms of our heroes' significant return to recording new music, stands well next to their previous catalogue yet something is lacking for me.

I find Godwhacker to be an echo of their re-worked version of Do It Again, musically speaking. Janie Runaway is a good song, yet echoes Hey 19.

I do not find myself listening to the newer albums much when compared with much of the older stuff. I think one of the reasons is that they produced both of the newer albums themselves. Gary Katz had produced everything through the Nightfly. I believe that having a outside influence, that outside set of ears would have been helpful to the new material. That said, I like Gaslighting Abbie, Janie, Negative Girl, What A Shame, 2vN, EMG, Green Book and Lunch the most.

As for a 40th Anniversary event, I'd like to see Jeff "Skunk" Baxter receive a copy of it, watch him unwrap it and watch whatever DVD they won't let him be part of. Is it because he's some kind of gun nut with deep right-wing ties ?

I'd love to see the group do a show with a string section, so they could do FM differently. Or having Jon Herington pick up an acoustic guitar for Rikki or something. How about Cathryn Russell ? Ever see her backing Bowie or Billy Joel. She's a multi-instrumentalist.

That said, I did notice that Carolyn, Cindy M and Cathryn all picked up percussion instruments to fill out the guitar solo section of Aja during Rarities Night.

BTW, one of the strongest performances of Rarities Night was definitely Aja. I cannot get enough of this song. Of all their tunes, this is the one I go all, "WAPNER AT 4" for....


Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 11:39:51 ET

Very funny stuff Young WU, but Michael's suggestions for the 40th
make alot of sense to me, load it up, god knows they have put out
there fair share of compulations, they really should trick this one
up!! A 5 percent standing ovation at the end of the masterpeice that
is ASIA?????????? UNF*cknbelievable!!!!Unacceptable!!! I dont know
if these New York crowds take the band for granted or what, but for
christ sake show some love!!!!The last 3 shows I saw at the Tower in
Philly 1 this year, 2 in 2009, the crowd gave defaning ovations at the end of nearly every song played and in 2009 gave huge standing
O'S at the end of each album!!!!!!!!!DONE BABBLING! Somebody hunt this
freak down who keeps spamming the good folks of the blue!!!!!!!!

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 10:30:35 ET
Posted by: PGE, Request Night

Not a casual fan but enjoyed the show. And by the looks, reactions and comments from casual fans around me they got what they came for.

Although I'll never understand why you pay top dollar for a ticket just to keep rushing out and in getting drinks, take a leak or fill up on popcorn.
But that's my problem I guess...

Looking forward to the Grand Finale tonite.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 10:30:06 ET
Posted by: jazz,

Tonight's show has the potential to be the best.

West of Hollywood and Almost Gothic would be legendary...

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 10:26:08 ET
Posted by: David, NYC

I think from the setlist patterns it's pretty clear that they have a set run of tunes to close every show (Peg/Josie/MOS/Reelin), couple where Walter can do his croaky thing (Hey 19, Papa) and a few different beginnings (YGT, Aja, Black, Hey 19, TOOM was pretty much identical to Saturday's show) .. that leaves the "request" part just the middle part --

Show Biz Kids
Home at Last
Dirty Work
Do it Again

curiously, the requested tunes also just happen to be the most commonly played on this tour... FM and Rikki are the only remotely rare tunes. I would love to see the data on what was actually requested.

Anyway, as I said, it was a very well played show regardless, with great energy -- just one Any Maj Dude or something woulda made me much happier. It's their show and they can play what they like -- it's just a bit maddening that over half of their amazing catalog is locked away, and one a one or two night stop / casino show you expect the regulars, but on a 6 night run in yer hometown?

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 10:01:25 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Manhattan

One more thing about last night's Beard solo: I have to give the crowd credit for refraining from shouting requests during Jim's enthralling Josie intro. Not that things were completely quiet, but the crowd noise was reduced to a low buzz of people quietly talking among themselves. That was enough for me to hear the solo clearly, and this is one way I judge the overall sound quality. Last night was remarkably clear; the best so far at the Beacon. It was not quite like having Beard "in your living room" as I think Lurker Ray said about Pechanga. And my seats at Pechanga were in the fourth row; here we are about 24 rows from the stage. So my compliments again to the sound crew for getting possibly the optimum sound quality attainable at the Beacon.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 10:01:07 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Young Wu, those are some worthy requests barring the nude shots. I don't think anyone is clamoring for those.

What is with all this SPAM?

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 09:42:53 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Manhattan

Thanks Dean; That sounds right to me.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 09:30:04 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach


Dunno the version Walt recited, but the way I've always heard it is:

When the weather's hot and sticky, that's no time for dunkin' dicky
When the frost is on the pumpkin, that's the time for dicky dunkin'

The best part is, I learned that from a friend who got it from his grandmother.

And beaubo, I think you meant YGT and not YGT2, right?

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 03:01:29 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Manhattan

Before I get started, Thanks Ray for the Steve Allen/Beard/Towel background info. Your explanation seems reasonable; moreover, Aja night would really be the only opportunity for Donald to recognize Beard this way without interrupting the tempo of the show.

I see the setlist has already been posted; Thanks David. I will get right into comments. BTW, show started at about 9:02 and Untouchables Theme wrapped at about 11:22 by my watch.

IMHO, the band ABSOLUTELY NAILED everything tonight. They came out with a smoking version of YGT and never let up. At some point
during YGT I started to notice that everything sounded better than it had the previous nights. I was wondering if it was the drink
I was finishing, but everything continued to sound as good for the entire show. So the sound crew is still making improvements, apparently.

Donald sounded strong from the start, and he was really on fire for Black Friday; I can't recall him belting out lines like that before.
After the first couple of lines of Hey 19 were clearly a sing-along, Donald said, "You know this one". Walter's monologue noted that we had changed seasons, and commemorated the arrival of autumn with a brief rhyme, the second half of which went, "When there's frost on the pumpkin, it's time for dicky dunkin'". At least I think I got that right; I missed that one in elementary school.

FM featured a solo by Roger Rosenberg; I can't recall if that version has been done before.

Donald had a bit of fun with the crowd when his Rhodes solo teased us with "Do It Again", but then started into "Rikki".

Now to the crowd tonight, which was the most unusual I have ever seen. There was maybe a 5% standing ovation for Aja, and then nothing until Bodhisattva, which finally got a decent standing ovation. Then it was back to the normal malaise, and seat vacating for various purposes. Perhaps in some language the term "Godwhacker" translates into "time for a beer"; if so, I await enlightenment from one of the many in the crowd tonight who apparently made this connection. It was rather comical to watch people rush back in when Home At Last started. I can imagine the collective "Hey, I KNOW that one; I had better get back in there!" in the lobby.

All this magically changed when Peg started, and the audience was on its feet for the remainder of the show. In my view, the crowd should have blown the roof off of this place tonight for the performance they got.

I should add that for this show I was near the back of the orchestra section, and could not see what was going on in the loge or balcony. And of course the crowds have more energy at the end, but I have never witnessed such a contrast in audience reaction over the course of one evening.

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 00:27:18 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland but now midtown Manhattan!

Attended both RS on Tues and Requests tonight.

Was enthralled by both shows. Thrilled to have the opportunity to see the band live again, keeps my streak up of having seen every tour since 93!

Observation, not a complaint:
Clearly, YGT2 and Godwhacker and Papa Don't Make No Mess would not have made the cut on the internet voting list. YGT2 was about 9-10 minute song, Godwhacker about 6-7 minute song and lace the intros into another SD song. Would have been a wonderful opportunity to nix those songs and squeeze in glaringly missing high demand requests like Deacon Blues, Black Cow, Don'T take Me Alive, Babylon Sisters. But admittedly, its a small quibble!

DF voice was definitely stronger on Thurs with the two day rest than on Tues. WB's Hey 19 vignette was equally nondescript both nights!

Stark reality of concert economics, as the son of rock concert promoter. If the audience enjoyed the show, when the band returns 1, 2 or 3 years, then the audience will have the nice fuzzy and vague recollection that they had a good time....and continue to buy tickets. Steely Dan's evolving set this tour that has settled down to a pretty predictable, broad based setlist, is the band's investment in their touring future. They will finely calibrate how much fan tolerance there is for 21st Century and deep cuts (lets call it 4 songs per set and it can be a huge rotation of songs as along as it doesn;'t exceed 4 per show!!!). Aja, TOOM, Hey 19, Peg, KC will be the tentpoles with another parallel rotation of fan friendly stuff cycling through- FM, anything from Aja, Reelin, Do It, Black Friday, Rikki.

That gang, is the formula for success. Todd Rundgren, Bruce Hornsby, to an extent BobDylan, Neil Young and davvbid Bowie learned that if you get get TOO self-indulgent, you end up playing in venues where you are just about BY YOURSELF in terms of audience size!!

I get Steely Dan's setlist decisionmaking, and while you all don't have to like it, at least UNDERSTAND it.

Overall, the band seemed to be having fun, the crowd defibitely did...I know it sounds simplistic- but mission accomplished for both parties!!

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 00:21:23 ET
Posted by: Stephen, Philadelphia

To David: Thanks for posting the Request Show set list. I agree with your remarks what they played and/or could have played. Cheers

Date: Fri, September 23, 2011, 00:00:52 ET
Posted by: David, NYC

9/22 Beacon setlist ... Internet Request Night

Black Fri
Hey 19
Time out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Home at Last
Papa / intros
Dirty Work
Do it Again
My Ol School
E: Kid C

Nicely played, good enegry, fun show, but...
really? these were the requested tunes?
not even a Wu to be had, nor a Pearl, Boston Rag ...
im not one to complain about setlists, but I'd advise sticking to the Royal Scam or Gaucho nights to catch the likes of Caves, 3rd World Man, etc ... this was basically a casino show. Again, well played, and great to see, but hard to believe these were the requested tunes...

Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 21:25:28 ET
Posted by: BillfromPGh,

Good thing Donald has abandoned his for the melodica:
[as seen on]

>As the truly amazing clip below shows, Stevie is also the only person on Earth who can look like a badass playing the Keytar. His playing alone justifies the ludicrous invention.

All other Keytar players should bring their Keytars to the nearest Keytar redistribution center, where they will be immediately redistributed to Stevie.

Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 21:09:42 ET
Posted by: BillfromPgh,

The recent mention of Wilco jogged my memory - a couple years ago they played their entire recorded catalogue in a series of shows in their native Chigago. As this article notes, some purists were unhappy that they repeated a few songs and didn't include all the rare b-sides and cuts from their Billy Bragg collaborations Mermaid Avenue vol 1 and 2.

Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 19:24:15 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

Really Michael... that's all you want for the 40th Anniversary Collection Special?

- No covers of them doing Megadeth songs?
- No Carolyn sex tapes?
- No videos by world famous celebrities like Kim Kardashian or The Octomom describing how much they love the band?
- No illustrated pop-up books depicting every detail of their history?
- No copies of old tax returns?
- No actual instruments used in the tours since the 90s?
- No free tickets to all future shows?
- No essays written by Fagen on the problems of modern day American conservatism and libertarianism?
- No nude shots?

Jeeze... some real fan you are. You probably even liked the Rarity show.

Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 19:15:58 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu - Last Day Of Summer? HA!

Thanks for the great report from
Aja Night Gus! But if I may, I
believe the shout out after Josie
from Donald, ""Steve Allen! Steve
Allen!" was a nice nod to Jim Beard
who I imagine had yet another spectacular
Josie intro and who with his perticular
"eye glasses" looks very much like the
late Steve Allen at the piano.

And for history buffs, Steve Allen
used to do his TV show at the Hudson
Theatre on 44th Street.

Since 1974 Donald seems to like to use
"towels" to get his message across apparently

"I saw the 74' tour when they visited Central Michigan University in April 1974. As the house lights went down, one lone spotlight zoomed in on a "Holiday Inn" bath towel that was mounted to the front of Donald Fagan's keyboard. The stage announcer comes on and he announces to the entire crowd at the brand new Rose Arena that the bath towel is a signal that everyone in the arena is being invited to an after-show party bash at the local Mt. Pleasant Holiday Inn!! Then he says: "Ladies especially were invited to come".......

Sounds like a good time. Have another great
one tonight Gus and looking forwrd to your

Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 18:18:24 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Manhattan, trying to catch up

Home at Last:

Aja Night at the Beacon, 19 Sept 2011,
Setlist and Report

Intro: Dizzy's Bidness ~9:00 PM

Aja (Album)

Your Gold Teeth
Black Friday
Hey 19
Lunch With Gina
Show Biz Kids
Time Out Of Mind
Dirty Work
Papa Don't Mess/Band Intros
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years

Encore: Kid Charlemagne
Outro: Untouchables Theme, ~11:35 PM

Earlier this year I saw Aja performed at the Greek in LA, and tonight's performance of the album was the equal of that show.
In other words, both were excellent as far as I could tell. One nice addition tonight was that after Roger Rosenberg started his
solo at the end of Black Cow, Chris Potter came out and completed the solo on the front mike. Taking the seven numbers as a whole,
from my perspective I have been spoiled by perfection.

Donald was quite ebullient tonight, after a well deserved standing ovation at the end of Josie. After his normal introdution, he started
beating his towel on the Keyboard, shouting, "Steve Allen! Steve Allen!" When the house didn't respond, he said (rough quotation here), 'that was Steve Allen, which was recognized by no one, apparently.' I confess that I have not seen enough of the late Mr. Allen to remember that myself.

A few minutes later, Donald unexpectedly addressed some audience members. After (I think) the first chorus of YGT, some of the audience got up for a bathroom/bar break. Probably no more than normal, but it seemed as if they did it on cue, and some of them were right down in front of Donald. So he said, "You're not allowed to leave!" One would think that a single admonishment would be enough, but during Black Friday it was more of the same, so Donald quipped, "Are you gettin' high in the bathroom?" I am pretty sure that he said one or two other things that I could not make out.

Getting back to the show, Mr. Becker was in fine form tonight, executing part of the Aja guitar solo with Jon, and soloing on Home at Last and Josie. He was at his best tonight on Godwhacker, IMHO.

For lunch with Gina, Beard took over Rhodes duties for Donald. This selection was a nice surprise, and an obvious hint of things to come on Friday.

Rikki was a another surprise tonight; even if this is not your favorite SD tune, the guitar work by Walter and Jon make it worth hearing.

To sum up, the band is clearly happy to be home, and they are acting and performing like it.

Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 18:16:21 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Hoops, they've already got the Citizen Steely Dan box set, Donald's box set, plus a myriad of 'greatest hits' albums. How many more collections can they realistically pull off without rehashing? You should be asking posters here, "What can they add to make a 40th anniversary collection special?"

I'll fire off some ideas:

1) All of their tracks, including the 70's remasters.
2) All of the demos, rehearsals and rarities compiled onto DVD.
3) Take their current tour line-up into the studio and record an album's worth of 'live in the studio' tracks of their pre-existing material. Hey, they've certainly got the experience by now.
4) Don & Walt interview, discussing every album at length + interviews with band members both past and present.
5) Live material.
6) Color booklet w/ photos, articles, memorabilia, oddities, et al.
7) A couple of new tracks.

Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 18:02:00 ET
Posted by: Elgin, Boston

Beacon Theatre reviews rolling in this week:
Newark Star Ledger review of "Dawn of The Dan"

"Long dogged by charges of obscurantism, crippling irony and distance, Steely Dan has become a genuine crowd-pleaser in its old age: generous, groovy, and joyful."

New York Times review of The Royal Scam + by Jon Pareles:
"Steely Dan�s identity has also changed, from the subversive pop act it was in the 1970s � making cryptic, complex songs into radio hits � to a latter-day jazz big band tweaking a cherished repertory."

and dangentially speaking, Catherine Russell sings classic jazz and blues this coming Monday night September 26 at Symphony Space, NY, NY at 7:15pm

Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 17:38:32 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Bel Air - At The Office Today

I implore anyone who who has not read
Girl Margaret's exceptional account of
last Saturday night's Rarities Night,
in the current issue of the Dandom Digest,
to do so immediately!!

Just a great read GM and really took me
back to last week. Again, I just don't
see how any die hard Steely Dan Fan could
complain about last Saturday night's magic
at "Steely Dan Disney World" for a night in

Man, has it really already been almost a
week ago? I'm still humming tunes but I
got to say, the one I find myself humming
the most lately is American Lovers!

Thanks again GM and I hope you enjoyed the
gifts from Gus.

Looking forward to being able to live vicariously
through the reports these final two nights.
Have a great final two shows all. Hoops,
I hope you are right about the 40th Box set.
I remeber getting excited 16 years ago for
"Citizen" and got thrown ONE teeny-tiny bone.

And yes Mark Knopfler always surprise you at his
shows. Even when he was "Dire Straits". The
reworked version of "Across The River" which
opened the final legs of the epic 1985 Brothers In
Arms tour easily surpasses the original. Man talk
about an opener.

Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 13:57:44 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

I don't think I have been to a specific show billed as a "Rarities" show other than the SD one. I have been to concerts with specific albums played all the way through of course, as is the trend lately. Like Hoops mentioned, I have seen Dylan and Neil Young many times. Virtually every Dylan show includes rarities and seldomly played songs, you never know exactly what you will get show to show as he changes it up, and even the songs that he plays frequently he will vary, alter and change tempo, emphasis, chords, etc. NY is much the same way and has always played some pretty obscure songs on any given tour. So those guys really don't need 'rarities' nights.

Of course, I have been to music festivals such as Nearfest where progressive rock groups tend to play very obscure material and emphasize deep album cuts over "hits" all the time. And many of those groups don't have "hits" to begin with. King Crimson would be an obvious example.

Saw Chicago a few years ago and they did the whole "Ballad for a Girl in Buchanon" suite, which was pretty cool and certainly a rarity.

Artists such as Mark Knopfler, Cowboy Junkies, Wilco tend to pull a lot of deep cuts on their tours and don't really play 'hits', and there are many others if I really sat down and thought about it.

Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 09:37:25 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick

P.S. Don't forget, Donald said in an interview earlier this year that SD will probably have a special collection released for their 40th Anniversary next year. If that comes to pass, maybe it could have some demos of past rarities of even something from this tour's rarities shows. On top of that, a 40th anniversary collection could be the basis for a 2012 or 2013 SD tour, just like 1994's tour was the "Citizen Steely Dan" tour.



Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 09:35:05 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick

Two things:

One, won't be able to fix the auto spams of prescription ads until later today. Please bear with me and thanks in advance for your patience. However, if you do see like a dozen posts like that all withing an hour or two, please email me at hoops AT dandom DOT com. ThAnkS!

Two, what other rarities shows by major musical acts have you attended? What were they like? What were the setlists like compared to a typical show, especially if the musical artist is hit oriented. I have attended something like rarities shows by Elton John, for example, and the set list varied from his typical shows. Typically he will have a bunch of hits with one rarity and one or two off his newest album; his rarity shows will be a third deep album cuts; a third of well-known album cuts and the rest will be hits. He usually plays 150-180 minutes straight. Then there's Bob Dylan, where I might argue almost every show is a rarity since he even mixes up his best-known songs, even if though I can't quite call him a "hits" act in the typical sense.

I wanted to write something but I don't know what other rarities shows are like by others. Thanks in advance for your responses. I look forward to them.



Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 09:29:08 ET

Mr. LaPage I like your ideas and also luv Katy Lied but they have
got to put out something new , dont they??? I think there
two must underrrated albums are the last two!! They still got
the goods to make great new material!! I should probably just
let this EPIC tour play out and not worry about the fuure!!
After all they are on a touring roll of a lifetime!!!DONE BABBLING

Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 04:46:43 ET
Posted by: Ex-pat, Sentosa Island

Wow....China Crisis played last Friday in Singapore...they played a lot of songs from Flaunt the Imperfection....very groovy bunch a guys...there songs were never over played too much so they all sounded pretty fresh......they even had some session guy with them to do that Becker-esque guitar solo on King in A catholic friend videod You Did Cut Me


Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 01:18:09 ET
Posted by: ILuvDF, in a leather jacket

How gorgeous is Donald here? Yum.

Date: Thurs, September 22, 2011, 00:04:32 ET
Posted by: moray eel, chi

DF rarity night introduction:

DF: Thank you very much. Right now we're going to do a tune that uh... we uh... before a couple nights ago we hadn't played it for... like 40 years.

[Crowd cheers]

This is off our... uh what... second album, I think and uh... it's a kind of ballad that... we uh... kind of thing we stopped doing after a while, but uh... when we started doing it uh... sounded pretty good really...

So here it is...

Called... it's a little song about uh... I don't know some whores, some New Orleans...

[crowd laughs then cheers]

[SD plays plays Pearl of the Quarter]


Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 21:01:52 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston

On the subject of mixing and finishing touches of DF albums, I stumbled upon this '06 article from Sound on Sound earlier tonight:

Donald gets pretty in depth regarding the recording process and his involvement in the mixing.

He even demos in Garageband.

A good read. Maybe a good re-read, for some of you.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 20:40:15 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH

Concerning touring next year....I would expect a Fagen solo tour. Donald has already said that his next album is pretty much done. Needs finishing touches (mixing and post production etc.) By the time that stuff gets done it will probably be summer. Let's hope for either or both.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 18:08:51 ET
Posted by: Joey & Rose, The Garage

Joey & Rose - "Happy Together"

Becker & Fagen are not paying diddly to play later. UR SO full of shit!

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 17:59:08 ET
Posted by: Try again, on the street

Boardwalk you know nothing about real shows.
But your suggestions and expertise will work very well for Joey and Rose, who are putting on a show in their garage.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 17:57:40 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in pennsylvania

The curfew at the tower was 11:30 (and it prob has been the same at the Beacon the whole time)..., they finished up shortly after 11. It's not like they are Quiet Riot or Slayer and are all hopped up on meth and want to play all night. They aren't going to break any curfew and pay fines, no...way...

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 17:42:33 ET
Posted by: Dollars & Sense, Boardwalk

So why not just start earlier or better yet get rid of the opening act?

Sounds like a dumb-ass waste of money to me.

But for what they are charging in the Big Apple they easily have Benjamins to burn.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 17:23:58 ET
Posted by: money, unions

after the first few nights they decided to PAY A HUGE OVERAGE FEE and play to 11:30, fuck all.

In other words, they discusses it and decided to pay a huge financial penalty to play longer.

Dickwads like you don't deserve a penny of it

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 16:11:10 ET
Posted by: Dave, Plymouth, MA

I've seen SD over 30 times since 1996! Monday night (Aja) was a bit flat. Last nights Royal Scam show was tops! They played that classic album flawlessly. The rest of the show was killer! I've seen them in the LA area a bunch of times. I was at the Greek Theater shows back in July. Last night RS show blew both of those LA shows away!

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 16:03:22 ET
Posted by: Greg M, an idea

Why not reverse the running order of Scam for a live show?:


Royal Scam (DF+WB walk out a la 2008 tour)
Everything u did
Haitian D
Green Earrings
The Fez
Sign in Stranger
Dont take me alive
Caves of A
Kid Charlemagne
SET 2,

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 15:57:05 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY

What no requests for them to bring back uber-rare Reelin '09 (the "club mix" or whatever?)


Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 15:55:15 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den, speculating

of course, if they wanted to tour next year doing Katy Lied and Pretzel Logic album nights all over the US, sign me up baby!

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 15:45:35 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

Re a tour next year, I highly doubt we would see another worldwide tour again next summer after the comprehensive tour they did this year, especially where they hit many cities they rarely or never played. I would fully expect them to take a year off.

If they did tour again, what would make sense to me would be a tour where they would rotate Rarities nights with Dawn of the Dan nights with General Hits nights and forego the whole album thing for a few years. This would accomplish several things. They would avoid overdoing the album idea and wearing out that unique way of presenting those songs, thus keeping it fresh for the future. Second, it would keep them doing a fresh series of shows where they could change up song selections more btw the three different kinds of shows. Third, it would give a wider audience a chance to hear the rare and early stuff instead of those just in NY, Boston. They could still do the General hits nights to satisfy the typical casual summer shed concertgoer, and hit the more Dancentric cities (Chicago, LA, Milwaukee, Philly, St. Louis(?)) with the specialty shows.

That to me makes sense, but of course that might not mean anything to the Dan.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 15:27:40 ET

Thankz Ports a solo tour with a new disc would be f*ckn great!!

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 15:13:25 ET
Posted by: WTF!!!!!!!!, PISSED BIG TIME!!!!!

So now all of sudden they CAN play until 11:30 at the Beacon?

What a couple of fuckin lazy crooks.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 14:57:25 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Thanks for the setlist and report
last night Gus. Sounds like they
finally played a killer Royal Scam
show for you and the Mrs! Well done.
Would loved to have seen Chris & Walt
on 2VN. Sounds phenomenal.

So they finally drag out Pretzel Logic
on Royal Scam night, too funny.

I guess Donald will never sing the Fez
for us. But having the gals sing in
Spanish just seems a little weird to me.
French yes or even Arabic, but Spanish?

I was really hoping that they would make
This All Too Mobile Home the closer for
the rest of the tour. It seems much more
satisfying than The Untouchables or Last
Tango. Even for the casual fan. It gives
Don & Walt a nice walk-off I think like the
way Don used to sing FM and then he and Walter
would saunter off while the band played them off.

I really thought Don would embrace TATMH like
he finally did with the original version of
Reelin' after playing it with Elliott in London
in 2009. Especially after Saturday night's
crowd reaction.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 14:56:33 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis


I to am slow at work so I will respond. I think the only hope for next year may be a Fagen solo tour to hopefully go with a release of his solo project. That would be great because his 2006 show in Minnepolis was my favorite Steely Dan/Fagen concert. Band was great and got to hear tons of stuff he never played before. Only drawback was the tour only lasted a month and the set was short... 15 to 16 songs.

But I'll take what I can get!

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 14:32:51 ET

Really long boring day at work, so I will continue to post until
busted!! Question: does anyone think they would tour again next
year without putting out any new product??? This would be CHUTZPAH
of the highest order!! I have seen them in 2008 (2) 2009 (4) and
2011 (1) and would most likely go next tour no matter what, but arent
they squeezing just about everything out of these last several tourssince 2003 ???? Please dont get me wrong, the tours have been
phenominal, but I dont know what they could do for an encore in 2012
without new material???

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 14:28:35 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Manhattan

Aja Night at the Beacon, 19 Sept 2011:

Intro: Dizzy's Bidness ~9:00 PM

Aja (Album)

Your Gold Teeth
Black Friday
Hey 19
Lunch With Gina
Show Biz Kids
Time Out Of Mind
Dirty Work
Papa Don't Mess/Band Intros
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years

Encore: Kid Charlemagne
Outro: Untouchables Theme ~11:35 PM

To Tommytomato and others, sorry for the delayed post, but the last two days have worn me down, and I am just a spectator. I'll try to post some more about this show later.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 14:15:02 ET
Posted by: jazz,

Yup Steven, they eff you over every year, yet we all still come back pathetically hopeful, shelling out way more money than we should given the length of the setlist and the repetition.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 14:06:59 ET
Posted by: Stephen, Philadelphia

I live in Philly, but instead of going to the Tower Theater shows, I decided that I had to see the Dawn of the Dan show at the Beacon. It was great, but I was hoping to see more of the material on the 1st three albums that they don't usually play. I've seen the band 11 times since '93 and most of the stuff played I've already seen over the years. I wrongfully was expecting to see a setlist of songs that don't usually get played. The highlight for me was Your Gold Teeth, Pearl of the Quarter, and Night by Night.

I was really hoping to hear:
1st album - Brooklyn Owes the Charmer Under Me, Only a Fool Would Say That, Change of the Guard and Kings.
2nd Album - Razor Boy and King of the World.
3rd album - Barrytown, With a Gun, Through with Buzz, and Charlie Freak.

I know Fagan and Becker say they play what they want to play, and I respect that. But it seems that when they specifically bill a show as the 1st three albums, they should play the never played stuff that many of us came to hear. Yes, the bill also said "plus selected hits" - so I was expecting to see stuff from Aja and Gaucho (and I alway's enjoy it), but why after all these years of playing those tunes couldn't concentrate on the songs not played in 30 years? This is why I didn't go to the two Tower shows...I knew I see the same stuff I keep seeing every time they come. With that said, I absolutely get so much joy and satisfaction of seeing Steely Dan live, and am thrilled that they continue to keep touring.

After the Dawn show I decided I had to go back up and see the Rarities, B-side show on Saturday night. There were plenty of the $55.00 tickets still available from the Box Office. I figured wrongly again that they would play some of the stuff I was hoping to hear at the Dawn show. Well as most of you know it was an amazing show, with all the never before heard songs they played. But again I am a little disappointed that they didn't play more songs from the first 4 albums that they rarely or never play. The highlights were Dr. Wu, Second Arrangement and This All Too Mobile Home. The rarities show would have been the show to do it at. We didn't need to hear Reelin', My Old School, Rikki and Bodhisattva.

With all this said, I'm sure that the next tour I will be right back there to see the band once again, hoping that we'll hear some rare old songs, but still enjoying Aja, et al.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 13:12:59 ET

Deaconblues 16 you got me all fucked-up here,it might have been the women singing the fez in 2009, have to listen to it again!! You
are correct it definatly wasnt Donald (wishful thinking on my part)!!
The fez was an instrumental in earlier tours and then on RoyalScam
night the ladies took over!!! Done being defensive!!! Finally
the Boston aja/ royal scam tonight lets play 2 is an all-time concert
for the ages for any band!!!

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 13:06:34 ET
Posted by: J Cleary, London England

There is far more to Ambrosia than just the soft pop singles. The first two albums are classic progressive art rock albums. Alan Parsons mixed their debut album and produced the second
"Somewhere I've Never Travelled", so the recordings are phenomenal. Both were nominated for grammys as best recorded albums for their respective years. This last October Ambrosia headlined the CalProg Progressive Rock Festival and Rocked the house by ditching the soft pop and playing only extended versions of their Progressive Rock songs. People there who
had only heard the soft pop where Blown Away!

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 13:03:37 ET

DEACONBLUES 16 excuse me I fucked up, rather it was hatian divorce DONALD FINALLY SUNG, in fact the fez was an instrumental, however
I am glad to know that you never make a mistake!!GET OVER IT!!

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 11:47:22 ET
Posted by: luke, NJ

Lurker Ray - Were you at the Royal Scam show at the Beacon last night? That show and that crowd was better than anything LA ever gave us.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 11:23:03 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

tommytomato: Steve was posting the setlist as it was happening from the Beacon on Monday night. Because there could have been signal reception issues and it's possible some of the posts might not have come through and because there haven't really been any posts recapping the Aja show, the list might not be 100% complete. I say that because I don't see Hey Nineteen listed in one of Steve's posts, and that would be a huge shock to be left off of any setlist. However, here are the songs that Steve mentioned in his posts on Monday night (and I apologize if I've missed a post): Your Gold Teeth, Lunch with Gina, Show Biz Kids, Time Out of Mind, Godwhacker, Rikki Don't Lose that Number, Dirty Work, My Old School, Reelin' in the Years, Kid Charlemagne, Untouchables theme. Of course, that's in addition to the Aja album, and I have to imagine that Papa Don't Take No Mess was in there somewhere. Like I said, I didn't see a post that listed Hey Nineteen, and Black Friday and Bodhisattva are some other commonly played tunes that weren't listed. But that's all I've seen from reporting on the 9/19 Aja show. I believe Gus Winterbottom did mention that Black Friday was played in one of his posts, so maybe he has a setlist.

DYLNFAN: If I remember correctly, not only did Donald NOT sing The Fez in 2009, but also, he and Walter left the stage for its performance and let the backing vocalists handle it.

Mr. LaPage: I believe Young Wu was counting only SD songs, because including Dizzy's Bidness, Untouchables, and Papa Don't Take No Mess... that's 24 songs last night. With The Royal Scam being 9 songs, however, it shouldn't be too surprising that they played more songs on a night that the Royal Scam was played (although they could have easily cut down on the selected hits, so I guess those in attendance should be grateful).

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 11:05:15 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH

Any set list reports from NYC Aja night? (other than Aja) Did I miss one?

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 11:05:11 ET
Posted by: Mr LaPage, in the den

Damn, now why didn't we get Pretzel Logic at least on Rarities night instead of Peg, Josie, Black Friday etc?

I think they did 21 songs in the St Louis and Aja Milwaukee show, I guess it depends if you are counting the intros/Brats songs.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 10:36:43 ET

Oh and one more thing, I think I would rather hear the Fez as an
instrumental (san vovals) than with the brats singing it!!
ps: I luv our girls as back-up singers (crucial part of making
it all work) and eye-candy!! DONE BABBLING

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 10:33:30 ET

Bitch and Moan alert: I am super pissed that Donald isnt singing
The Fez like he did in 2009!!!!!!!!!Just Sayin

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 09:50:36 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Sit back, relax and enjoy the sights, sounds and aroma of somebody passing gas.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 09:35:01 ET

No problem Michael, its all good!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 08:56:55 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

Holy shit... 21 songs! That's an achievement. Easily the most songs of the tour, and might be the most songs since they stopped doing two set shows (Boston's first 2009 show might 21 songs too).

Good stuff...

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 08:54:00 ET
Posted by: organ trio,

Thanks David.

I have tix for RS night in Boston. It's very generous of them to be playing 2.5 hours, but that the second half of the set is wasted on their dullest material, which has also been repeated tour to tour, is a damn shame though. It'll be tough sitting through it, given I have already seen them several times. Ironically, this might for me to get tix to other the other show(s) as well.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 07:13:13 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Cerpin, "Someone comments on this YouTube upload that there's another version out there with vocals. I think this is b.s. Any ideas?"

Yeah, it's likely BS. Just because somebody says something on the internet doesn't mean it true.

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 01:18:03 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston

Does Funky Driver have lyrics circulating?

Someone comments on this YouTube upload that there's another version out there with vocals. I think this is b.s. Any ideas?

Someone bad timing considering all the excitement around the rarities
shows, I hope this doesn't get lost in the shuffle!

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 01:15:38 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Manhattan

Royal Scam Night at the Beacon, 20 Sept 2011

Intro: Dizzy's Bidness ~9:00 PM

The Royal Scam (Album)

Two Against Nature (Chris Potter guest/sax duos with Walt W.)
Hey 19
Time Out Of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Papa Don't Mess/Band Intros
Dirty Work (ladies on vocals)
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years

Encore: Pretzel Logic (Carolyn helped with the vocals)
Outro: The Untouchables Theme ~11:30 PM

Sorry that I will have to keep this brief for now, but this was overall the most satisfying of the three Royal Scam shows I have seen. One peculiarity was The Fez, which sounded fine instrumentally, but the ladies sang the lyrics in another language which I would say was Spanish. Mrs. GW, who is quite fluent in Spanish, could not really tell if it was in Spanish or Italian. Disconcerting, but not nearly enough to spoil an otherwise outstanding performance tonight.

More later...

Date: Wed, September 21, 2011, 01:11:58 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston

Does Funky Driver have lyrics circulating?

Someone comments on this YouTube upload that there's another version out there with vocals. I think this is b.s. Any ideas?

Someone bad timing considering all the excitement around the rarities
shows, I hope this doesn't get lost in the shuffle!

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 22:27:43 ET
Posted by: PGE, on a post September 17 high

@Ask who wrote

"C$ @ 21C?"

After American Lovers and that "special" version of Jack Of Speed I don't count anything out when it comes to a Steely Dan concert. Jerome Aniton might pop up and introduce the band on the final night!

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 22:06:14 ET
Posted by: kulee baba, out with my engineer

I'm protesting
I'm pissed

I wanted a little with sugar

if I don't get what I want they must be bad

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 22:02:56 ET
Posted by: happy not, on the avenue

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 21:58:26 ET
Posted by: Tee Smith, transciptions

So far...

Green Earrings
Kid C.
Don't Take Me Alive
Sign In Stranger
The Fez
Everything You Did Reggae Version
Royal Scam

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 20:58:58 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Yellow Jag

Wish I could have been there, but the Saturday Show featured some of the epic moments we've obviously have been longing 4.

The Second Arrangement had the groove going. The chords underneath naturally are sublime. It's a fab some to play and the horns ease in the story in the second verse as it builds. Really, it's worth playing virtually every night and stands indeed with the best of their compositions. Carlock rode it in between the Porcaro shuffle and Gadd/WENDEL march.

Now that the song is finally OUT OF JAIL, live it up! Slide it on the new Fagen album. Play it every d*** night!

Bear sounded fine, but it would have been nice to hear Kulee Baba or Can't Write Home About You make an appearance in the rarified air.

WuWu slinked along like a comfortable slik robe. Fagen's voice in excellent form. Every word he sang we knew was true.

Props to Jim Beard - it's like he's always been in the band and has all the flavors down.

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 19:25:30 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Dear NYC Neanderthal,

The crowd this year both nights
at the Greek was far and above
better than last Wednesday nights
"creature feature" and obvioulsy
way better than the douche fest
last night. Donald never bagged on
us or had to scold us like he had to
last night. Some "hometown" crowd.

You want to see some real fans?
Go drag your knuckles to Boston and
see a show. Now those are some
classy fans.

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 18:55:35 ET
Posted by: Exhausted and Smiling, Southern Ontario

Back after seeing the rarities show at the beacon. Words can't describe how happy I still am - it was all worth it, the buildup, the travel, the expense, the damned Greyhound ride, everything. Just to see Mobile Home in person, hard to explain how much that meant to me. The rest was gravy for me - pretty amazing gravy, too!

Thanks to everyone for the interesting reads. Thanks to M/O/D/P for nailing what I was thinking. Thanks to Lurker Ray for yet ANOTHER generous share here. Thanks to Steve for the steady stream of reports and flatulence humour - kept me smilin' all day long. Most of all thanks to Donald & Walter for giving us this musical treasure that I for one will never forget.

ps to M/O/D/P - We appear to be located in more or less the same neck of the woods, so if you're driving down again Thursday night or even early Friday morning and you want an extra passenger to help defray some of the expense, send me an email. I'm in if I can be.

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 18:50:29 ET
Posted by: Michael,

DYLYNFAN: "I believe someone said Don and Walter
were not fart jokes kinda guys, couldnt agree with them more!!!"

That would be Denny. When someone lets one rip at a concert, don't fight it -- just sit back and enjoy.

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 18:29:54 ET
Posted by: NYC RULES!, Lurker Ray is a lummox

Lurkr Ray - Shut up already! NYC is the BEST place to see a SD concert! It's a lot better than those phoney plastic people out in LA that go to the shows! Why do you think that D&W got the hell out of there the second they could....40 years ago! Plus the best SD show EVER was at Roseland in 2003! Not Sobboba!

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 16:16:03 ET
Posted by: Roger, o'er the border

Back home in dear old Canada, after spending my yearly holiday -- and a big nut to Visa -- on ALL FOUR Steely Dan shows to date. How I wish I could stay on... I'll write some impressions maybe when I come down, or for the Digest perhaps.

One headline that I think has been give short shrift is CHRIS POTTER. The set with Yahel and Stewart was sublime. He fairly tip-toed onto the stage at the end of Black Cow (slyly glancing at Donald and Walter...the latter of whom was, guaranteed, surprised), and gave us an outro to Black Cow that words good. I stood and yelled, loud. I don't think too many people in the audience knew that he was a walk on. And I think only fans who had been to other shows could truly appreciate his playing. Horrible to say, but it really changed the way I heard Weiskopf for the rest of the night. But that's another story. In any case, sorry for YELLING but Potter was so wonderful, and what a nice surprise for him to hang around for the guesting, and I want to give him his props. Anyone going tonight, make sure to catch the Yahel's set with him.

O and O
rog tc

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 15:56:19 ET
Posted by: Lurkr Ray, Malibu

"You're not allowed to leave!"

"Are you gettin' high in the bathroom?"

Donald Fagen to the NYC crowd Monday night

So sad. We saw many of the same shitty
people last Wednesday night. Just again
proves that just because NYC is your hometown
doesn't make it the best place to perform
for Steely Dan or Donald Fagen, especially
an extended run.

But nothing beats doing a show and being
able to go home and sleep in your own bed.
You can't top that. Thank goodness they
are moving on to Boston. I highly doubt
Donald will have to scold fans in Boston.

I also thought Dr Wu was splendid Saturday
night. Though again I must agree with some
comments here. Playing a tune "once" vs
actually pounding it out a few nights on the
road is key. This band is tight but they are
even tighter including Donald when they actually
put some mileage on a song on the road. Just
look at a tune like YGT this year, it's been
played nightly and it shows. Just body punch
magnificent night after night.

Dr Wu was great Saturday night, but I still
think Hollywood 2009 was the best I have heard.

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 15:11:11 ET
Posted by: angel, LA

Back in LA.

My best to all who are there for the long haul. It was great to share the experience with so many of my kind. Truly unforgettable and I never would have ever expected to see the day happen. Thank you again, Don, Walt and the entire band, for working so hard to make the evening special.

Now I just have to pay for this indulgence, but let me say, it was money well spent. :-)

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 14:43:20 ET
Posted by: Anon, 1

Name two people to be shot from behind in theaters

1. Abe Lincoln

2. The poor guy seated in front of me when Don started explaining about the erased Gaucho track that they were now going to play.

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 14:23:46 ET

Mr. LaPage, my piss break was indeed the WALTER RAP of Hey 19!!!
As far as flatulance goes, it was mentioned offhandedly in the
classic album dvd of AJA, I believe someone said Don and Walter
were not fart jokes kinda guys, couldnt agree with them more!!!

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 14:21:14 ET
Posted by: David, NYC

for the 2 Beacon shows I've seen (and I gather this is typical), Yahel's band goes on around 8p and plays to around 8:30p. SD have been hitting the stage anywhere from 8:40-9p.

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 14:00:38 ET
Posted by: luke, NJ

The two people seating next to me last night left the second Aja was over! At least I had plenty of room the rest of the show. And yes! People indeed went to the bathroom when GT started. Pathetic!

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 13:30:22 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, waiting to take a pee break

Pee breaks and flatulence.

Obviously anyone taking a pee break during Gold Teeth is not a diehard. Sure, I understand someone who was there for the Aja album waiting until the entire album is played through needing to void after 45 minutes. But the obvious spot to pick for that first golden release is Walter's extended Hey Nineteen rap, at least for this tour, not during YGT.

Now, flatulence is a different story. I honestly can't begrudge someone letting some gas loose if necessary rather than getting up in the middle of a tune and interrupting everyone in the row and climbing all over them, both getting out and back in. The latter might be more disturbing than being dealt a booming salvo of intestinal-warmed air for a few seconds. And those adept at colon gymnastics might time any audible gaseous emission with a Carlock drum solo in an effort to go aurally unnoticed.

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 13:02:41 ET
Posted by: shecky, who are you?

a portion of "mobile home" from rarities night is now up.

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 12:55:43 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, cross the killing floor

M/O/D/P, once again in your post you have captured very concisely my thoughts. Why did we not meet in NYC? Come out of the shadows, my friend. Let us buy you a $9 beer!

I haven't been able to get YGT outta my head for days. For me, that was the stellar 2011 addition to an already fantastic live line-up. I know that some of you think we are chumps for taking whatever they throw at us with ne're a complaint. I still contend that they know the music best.

Having said that, I appreciate the effort the band gives to play the best damn music on this planet and still take some chances for the us, the die-hards. (Even if the JOS thing Saturday night was a someone posted earlier, that might have been the REAL rarity...a train-wreck played by the Steely Dan band, whodathunkit?)

Dr. Wu on Saturday was the best I've heard. Third World Man on Friday was sublime. I sobbed through Boston Rag on Wednesday. Jeezus F--cking Christ, People! And, as far as the extended band intros taking 15 minutes, I think that is an act of appreciation for each band member, so I don't mind. (I recently got introduced in open court by one of the big guys in my firm and I'll tell you what, it was cool to be acknowleged in that way, even for a nobody like me.) And look on the bright side. It gives everyone time for that much needed pee-break, eh.

My experiences with following this band have been life-changing. Some good, some bad, never indifferent....even if I have heard Aja, Peg and Josie 40 times. I still get up and shake my ass and enjoy every freaking second of it. So, I guess some of us will just have to agree to disagree.

It was great to see so many friendly faces in NYC, even if we just got to say, "Hi, how are you?" and not much else. Thanks to hoops for keeping the light on here. On my way out of NYC on Sunday, I walked past the Wellington, which is where some of us first met, lo those many years ago, and I almost went in to see if the internet station was still there. It was our connection to the Bluebook in 2003 and we had such a great time recording our adventures that year--before most of us had laptops and, some of us, cell phones.

Now, how can I make one of those last shows out west, before the Downuder boys get their fix?

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 12:55:08 ET
Posted by: organ,

still looking to find out when the organ trio hits before SD...

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 12:45:12 ET
Posted by: Ask, U

C$ @ 21C?

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 12:38:01 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH

Any set list reports from Aja night? (other than Aja)

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 11:57:59 ET
Posted by: Marblesmike, Nj

I meant the Dan, not end Dan, in my post below

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 11:27:58 ET
Posted by: Marblesmike, Nj

What time has end Dan been going on stage throughout this run at the Beacon?

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 11:09:11 ET

M/O/D/P nice caddyshack reference, cue the jaws theme music!!!
I am sure I am in the minority, but I like the feedback from all
sides both positve and NEGATIVE!! I personally think the band and
tour are on fire(sorry about the cliche) but I am intersted in
dissenting opinions!! It sure as hell beats only 2 post on the
board each day!! DONE BABBLING

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 10:51:40 ET
Posted by: PGE, Attention Australia!!!

According to this link

You can win tickets to the Steely Dan and Steve Winwood show at Bimbadgen Estate on October 22 by picking up the Alive liftout in the Maitland Mercury.

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 10:01:39 ET

RE: less than zero and bright lights big city, two great books
both movies could not have sucked more if they tried, especially
bright lights big city!!! That said both soundtracks were phenomenal!!IMHO 2 of the best movie soundtracks eva!!!!

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 08:31:46 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, First Grade

@ Lurker KAYE:

Thanks!! ♪♫

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 08:20:37 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Steve: "Time out o'mine. Worse than potty break people, someone farting up a storm in the balcony. hope no lighters or they will blow up the place."

He's a part of the show, a plant in the crowd, to make the experience more authentic.

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 07:49:58 ET
Posted by: canadian neighbor pharmacy, New York

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 07:17:45 ET
Posted by: Jim , Baton Rouge

Thanks, Lutz. I havr row E on the floor right in front of Donald and the Brats, so I am really looking forward to this. I am just flying in and out from Baton Rouge for the show (although I still might have the time to find myself with a handle in my hand at some point!).

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 07:15:24 ET
Posted by: canadian neighbor pharmacy, New York

Date: Tues, September 20, 2011, 01:43:16 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Just West of... Central Park

Steve, Thanks for the real time setlist posting. Just a few comments from my notes:

After watching people get up during YGT, after the first chorus Donald shouted, "You're not allowed to leave!" Later during Black Friday when more people got up, he asked, "Are you gettin' high in the bathroom?" I think there were one or two other things I could not make out.

Donald was very animated throughout the show, and Walter looked to be enjoying himself as well.

As you can infer from Steve's posts, the show lasted about 2:35, the longest so far of the Beacon run.

I can't wrap up without complimenting the sound man. Especially for the last two nights, I think we are getting treated very well, particularly considering the acoustic reputation of The Beacon on this board. And our seats are near the soundboard but under the lower balcony, so I was expecting additional complications.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 23:57:02 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

Steve, do you think Beacon security would let you in with a gas mask on? That is too damn funny, but if you are having to get a whiff of a bad funk after awhile, I guess it is not that funny.

Thanks for the song by song update. Rock on.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 23:51:55 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre

Kid C, can say that again.

Gotta get some air! Good nite every1

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 23:45:04 ET
Posted by: lost sound checks, @mixing board

'Pearl of the Quarter' was played on the 1972-1973 tour.....;-)
go it is a real Dawn of the Dan track.....

rolling Stone mag..thought it was the best teack on Countdown in their Aug '73 review

thanks for posting that review of the Tommy Kaye album Hoops....i even see traces of American Lovers in the Night Belongs to Mona.....

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 23:35:57 ET
Posted by: Lutz, Sf

re: casino shows.
Jim, the Pearl has a fabulous concert venue that holds ~ 2500 - 3000 I believe.
I saw Steely Dan there before and they played a full lenght show.
Sound was great as well.
In 2007 I also went to some of the smaller Casinos where the shows were somewhat shorter but super tight as well. They played Table Mountain near Fresno and while the band was still working the jazz outro, Don & Walt already were back in the Limo on the way to their flight...
Gretchen and Rajah were there too.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 23:30:36 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre


Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 23:30:33 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre


Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 23:29:38 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre


Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 23:28:14 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Thanks to Steve and Ray.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 23:13:41 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre

My Ol' School

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 23:03:24 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Back in Toronto

Steve - thanks for the updates. Sorry to hear about the wandering pee-breakers and all that balcony flatulence. Something should really be done about both of those things, I think. But what?

I wish I were there right now, but I'm still enjoying the afterglow of this past weekend's Gaucho and Rarities shows in NYC. Any one of the "rarities" played either night (I'm including Glamor Profession, My Rival, and Third World Man on the rare gems list) would have, for me anyways, been worth the price of admission. The whole load when combined easily justified the roughly ten hour drive each way. There were so many moments where I smiled so loudly that there was a very real possibility that the top of my head could have broken away from my jaw at any point. I am right now very seriously considering doing the whole thing over again for Friday's "21st Century" show. In my opinion, these days it just doesn't get any better than what we all got on Friday and Saturday nights. All that and the delightful filth of New York City! Why not avail myself of a little more magic, I ask myself? I'll probably do it. Or "prolly", as the kids with all the self-esteem like to say.

And after yet another pilgrimage to The Beacon Theater to see Steely Dan, something has finally crystalized for me. It has occurred to me that the act of reading a setlist on a computer screen while slouching in a mildewed basement apartment (or even a rat-infested highrise hovel), surprisingly, may not be a suitable replacement for sitting in a beautifully-restored historic concert hall while actually listening to what may very well be the best live act currently playing for the public. Go figure. I really have to agree with first-time poster "Kevin from the North Shore". There is definitely a Brontosaurus-sized disconnect between the hair-up-on-the-back-of-your-neck vibe that was palpable in the room Saturday night and the hollowed-out negativity of some of the aftershow comments that litter this board. "I absolutely hated the show that I didn't and wouldn't attend" just doesn't resonate, does it?

Even though I know they will never read these words, I'd like to thank, from the bottom of my concrete-caked heart, DF, WB, and the rest of the band for (especially) Saturday night's drop-dead amazing show. When I say I "know" they won't read these words, what I mean is that I certainly hope they don't. Not that my words aren't worth reading. Sure they are, along with so many of the other posters' thoughts and musings on here recently. Unfortunately, all too often when we take a dip in this particular Blue Swimming Pool, we run the risk of an unpleasant mid-water collision with more than a few floating Oh Henry bars. The guys (and ladies) who put on the two performances I witnessed this past weekend just do not deserve to read any of the asinine, ill-considered contributions here that really profane their sublime musical efforts. I have no idea how or even why anyone would make such a toxic cocktail by mixing self-consuming bitterness with a bloated sense of entitlement. Those two poisons just don't mix - and now everyone here has (again) seen the horrible results.

I don't really believe in music as a competition, so I'll leave the "this show was better than that show" stuff to others. I do know that both the Gaucho and Rarities concerts rate right up there with anything I've ever seen in person in the last 35 years or so. It's hard to put a price on that kind of wonderful. I really hope that 2011 does not mark the final time we'll get to see our friends perform as Steely Dan, though. With that in mind, for those able to attend any of the remaining shows, I strongly encourage you to see these guys if you possibly can. For those perpetually unhappy dissenters here, maybe what you need is some perspective. How about I hereby sentence you to pay three or four hundred dollars to sit in a cavernous basketball arena and watch the corporate stylings of some ghastly incarnation of a worn-out "classic rock" band on a ridiculous TV screen? If that doesn't make you appreciate what you have available to you with Steely Dan, I give up.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 22:55:53 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre

Looks like band intros have extra video, as was posted last week

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 22:54:10 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre

Dirty Wk The wind has subsided

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 22:53:40 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre

Dirty Wk

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 22:48:17 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre

Rikki Don't Lose That Humbre

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 22:46:06 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

How on earth do you get up and leave your seat during Gold Teeth?
One of the premier gems of the '11 tour.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 22:41:32 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre

Godwhack. We need Godwhacker on the case of the flatulator.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 22:37:55 ET
Posted by: moray eel, shy

My recording is pretty crappy. The sound is really blown out. Some people were asking about what Donald said before the songs so I posted the text.

Here's the "Jack of Speed" intro and stuff...

DF: Alrighty! Thank you very much. Here's a tune that uh... that uh... ended up on uh... uh... album we did in uh... 'bout 2000 uh... called 'Two Against Nature'. It was called "Jack of Speed".

[Crowd roars]

But uh... there was an earlier incarnation of "Jack of Speed" and uh... it was kind of a different kind of thing. And uh... hope you like it.

[Girl in audience screams "Walter!]

[SD plays Jack of Speed]

[Crowd cheers]

That's the original "Jack of Speed". Actually, that was a kind of a pre-original "Jack of Speed" since we didn't make all the changes [DF chuckles] but.. that was pretty much it.


Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 22:33:07 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre

Time out o'mine. Worse than potty break people, someone farting up a storm in the balcony. hope no lighters or they will blow up the place.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 22:27:20 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre

Having problems with posting. Up here in the balcony. I see Phil B. among others. Just had Lunch With Gina and now the Show Biz Kids are making movies of them elfs!

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 22:24:00 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre

Sitting near Phil Bio balcony but havinnalunch with Gina

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 22:19:40 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre

Sitting near Phil Bio balcony but havinnal

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 22:12:29 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o An Agenda, Unfortunately somewhere other than The Beacon

People who get up to pee, have a smoke or buy a beer during Your Gold Teeth MUST BE SHOT. They are plastic, fair-weather douchebags !!

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 22:10:13 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Thanks for the reports Steve
Keep'em coming.

Thought many of you would also like to
hear the Thomas Jefferson Kaye version
of the rare Becker/Fagen composition,
"Jones". So along with the "American
Lovers" here is the entire "First Grade"

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 22:07:00 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre

People start leaving during Gold Teeth.

Don tells them mid-song to stick around

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 21:58:23 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre

Gold Teeth

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 21:40:15 ET
Posted by: Steve, NYC, Beacon Theatre

At the Beacon Theatre.

Aja Album tonight. Black Cow has Chris Potter. Too cool!

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 21:09:15 ET
Posted by: Jim, Baton Rouge

For what it is worth Pearl of the Quarter was not played at JazzFest in 2007. For rarities (at least for me)they did play "Jack of Speed," (Donald on vocals) "Bad Sneakers" and Walter singing "Monkey in Your Soul." Jazz Fest almost never used to let anyone play over an hour, and that is my memory of the SD set (although "Widespread Panic" has changed the hour-long-set-thing-culture recently). They were playing before Harry Connick Jr. BTW, Still need an answer to my question about meaning of "Casino Show" for my Vegas trip. Thanks.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 19:55:18 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Thomas Jefferson Kaye - First Grade

I guess I should have also pointed out
that there is a second great Becker/Fagen
song on the album called "Jones". It
also is really great I think and easily
could have been at home on Pretzel Logic.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 19:42:26 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

Wow, all I can say is that I am jealous, Mr. LaPage.

Doctor Wu made the set list? That is worth the price of admission right there! Fantastic.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 19:34:42 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu - Really Sucking Wind Today


I guess I see the question as trickey also.

Because isn't American Lovers with Thomas
Jefferson Kaye basically a 1974 "Steely Dan"
song with a "guest vocalist"?

Michael Omartian: Keyboards
Joe Osborne: Bass
Donald Fagen : Piano
Walter Becker : Bass
Jim Gordon : Drums
Victor Feldman : Percussion
Rick Derringer : Guitars
Dean Parks : Guitars
Jeff Skunk Baxter : Guitar

Produced by Gary Katz

Backing Vocals:

Richie Furay, Tim Schmit, Dusty Springfield, Clydie King.
Strings And Horns Arranged By Jimmie Haskell.

Yeah you read right that is THE
Dusty Springfield on Backing Vocals.

So does that mean that mean that technically
"Steely Dan" has played American Lovers before?

BTW the "Thomas Jefferson Kaye" album was
finally released on CD in 1995 along with his
second album "First Grade".

This is Robert Christgau's review of the album:

First Grade [ABC/Dunhill, 1974]
Like the Triumvirate album he produced for John Hammond, Mike Bloomfield, and Dr. John, Kaye's debut was sensually laid-back, with a sly intelligence he hoped to pass off as an active relationship with his environment. But this one stands beside Eric Clapton's 461 Ocean Boulevard as a critique of the laid-back mode. The secret is the covers, which I bet producer Gary Katz (also of Steely Dan) had something to do with--especially since the whole album centers around Fagen & Becker's bitter, poignant farewell to the counterculture, "American Lovers." Together with Loudon Wainwright's painful "Say That You Love Me" and natural boogies from Link Wray and Dr. John, it puts such Kaye titles as "Northern California" and "Easy Kind of Feeling" into the ironic perspective the artist intends. Maybe this is Katz rather than Kaye--but when you hear Kaye describe a "new religion/Called everything's gonna be all right," you won't think so. A (Grade)

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 18:55:20 ET
Posted by: Randy, Thanks to Randy

OK, at the risk of overloading everyone, here are 15 videos from recent Dan shows - all HD 1080p with great sound. It's like reliving the shows we saw so far in NYC:

Dirty Work:
Hey Nineteen:

Everything Must Go: (not played at the shows I saw in NYC)
Reeling in the Years:

Kid Charlamagne:
Pretzel Logic: (not played at the shows I saw in NYC)

My Old School:
Time Out of Mind:
Your Gold Teeth:

Monkey In Your Soul (sung by Walter): (not played at the shows in NYC)
*Band Solos* in Neighbor’s Daughter (Lee Dorsey cover): (not played in NYC)

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 18:03:19 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, no. flies. on me. horsey.

BTW: It was asked as to which rarity was played least of all the least played by SD.

I'm a sucker for being tricked on trick questions, but I'm going with (3.) "American Lovers" for $200. That leaves me with $500.

My second choice would have to be (2.) "Second Arrangement."

(Sound of disqualification buzzer.)

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 17:53:28 ET
Posted by: hoops, in chicago, wishing i was in nyc

I'm just grateful to have been there. Thanks to those who helped make it happen--be they SD fans or people who covered for me while I was out of town in NYC. It's been hard for me to get to shows this summer but I'm so grateful to have gotten to hit a choice show like this and Milwaukee.

For me, this and the two pairs of Roseland shows are at the tops of my list. I hope this signals The Next Thing for our heroes.

So skimming along here... I won't even bother with the ridiculous.

To me, it's like being a five year old and asking for a horsey, hoping for one that rocks on a metal frame with springs and all. At the same time, I'm expecting to be content with the one that's a horse head on the top of a stick and wheels at the bottom of the stick. So it's Christmas morning and I get BOTH kinds of horses! hOLy CoW! But then my folks tell me to look out the window. And my uncle from the country has trailered over his real pony for a visit on our front lawn! I'm ready to pass out with joy.

But the mean kids down the block come over to check things out--you know, the ones who never approve no matter how good things turn out because that's not their game--and start saying things like, "That horse has a fly on it!"


I DO suspect something was off with "Jack of Speed 1995.5". Someone below said part of the band was off a bar but I can't say. Yet, it wouldn't surprise me if they repeat it with tweaks on modern Dan night. It's not that I have heard anything inside or anything--just a hope.


Thanks again for an amazing night that I will never forget.


Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 17:36:43 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

Actually, Lurker Ray, I haven't done as great of a job recording setlists this year as I've done in the past, largely because the setlist reporting on here has been inconsistent and absent for a few shows. However, I think Pearl of the Quarter and Bad Sneakers have both been played twice so far. If this assumption is correct, Pearl of the Quarter is played for Dawn of the Dan in Boston, and Bad Sneakers doesn't make another appearance, then I think it's safe to say that it's Pearl has been played more than Bad Sneakers on this tour. Of course, I know Bad Sneakers has been played at least once, but if my I'm remembering incorrectly or there were some inaccuracies in the reporting, it might have only been played once. So, you might be right, and Pearl might already be ahead of Bad Sneakers.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 17:33:15 ET
Posted by: wZ, ipaaaaad ..typo city

It could be that the comment 'we did this for a while then stopped' could have referred to doing (writing) slow ballad type songs? I will review my video when i get home from work.

my vote from memory and experience is that no POQ played at any show in modern era until last week...cpuld be wrong


Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 17:14:46 ET
Posted by: Michael, "The Vocal Minority"

There's really no point in fighting for what people don't want. Good, enjoy your "static" setlist.

I don't live and die by the hits; their back catalog is so much more than Josie, Peg, Black Friday, and Hey Ninteen. But then again, looking at the bigger picture, I'm kind of weary of listening to material from 40 years ago over and over again ad nausea, be it SD or otherwise, much less getting all worked up whenever they decide to pull out one or two random chestnuts for live consumption.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 17:12:15 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Bel Air

Thanks DB, so we were making setlist
errors even in 2007? ;O) I think some
folks here still swear it was played.

Wonder why Donald said,

"they did this one for a while, but then stopped doing it"

Doesn't really matter though, it's
dope and I hope others get a chance
to hear it.

So what about it DB16, has in fact
Pearl Of The Quarter been played more
than Bad Sneakers this tour?

I know you are the guy to ask.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 17:09:19 ET
Posted by: NOLA Jazzfest Attendee; et al., been around the world

Pearl of the Quarter - Not played
TVN - Was played

Pixeleen - Played in Camden; we almost died

More later from the first couple NY shows. Processing not yet complete, but tend to agree with some comments from both sides of the fence.

Having said that, I still feel very lucky to have been there and disagree that the band does not care about its fans.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 16:36:13 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

Actually, I don't think Pearl of the Quarter was played in 2007. I'm thinking that people get that impression from the list I re-posted several weeks ago of all the songs they've played since 1993 and when they were re-introduced. This post was originally made on September 8th, 2009, and I'll repost it again now but only include the 2007 list:

- Pixeleen (Might Have Been Done Previously)
- Two Against Nature (Might Have Been Done Previously)
(Still some debate about Pearl of the Quarter, so not officially included)

As you can see, I wasn't sure about Pearl of the Quarter when I compiled that list. On September 7th 2009, Angel wrote: "They played Pearl on the Quarter at Jazzfest in NOLA." However, on September 8th, before I wrote my long post, I. Must, disagree chimed in with: "Pearl of the Quarter was NOT played in New Orleans. Can someone settle this dispute?" After my list was posted, Angel chimed in again with: "Should be at work and instead I am scrolling through the archives... No Pearl on the Quarter at NOLA. My mistake. I must have taken all the wishful thinking, as fact." And later that day, Wormtom wrote: "contrary to wishful thinking (or unless my memory really has failed) Steely Dan did NOT play Pearl of the Quarter at Jazzfest in New Orleans. They played a very abbreviated set (around 90 minutes if I recall) and that certainly was not in it. Look for my posts from around late May 2007 at the yellow." This can all be found here:

I think that gives us confirmation. So apart from sound checks, Pearl of the Quarter's debut was this past Wednesday night, and it's second appearance was on Saturday night. At least since 1993 that is. If Donald announced it by saying "they did this one for a while, but then stopped doing it," I wonder if this was played at their very unknown 1973 shows or in some of their early 1974 shows. Because I know it isn't part of the 1974 setlists that I'm familiar with.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 16:35:53 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, Beaconized

Lurker Ray, Show Biz Kids is a rarity in this version and in terms of the big picture, as it has not been a tune they do every year. But that is why I said "arguably".

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 16:31:16 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Bel Air At The Office


"Century's End" was recorded for 1988's
"Bright Lights, Big City" and much like
"The Bonfire of the Vanities", terrible
movie, great book. "Less Than Zero" is
also a pretty bad movie, butyou could see
that this Robert Downey Jr. guy had the

Mr. LaPage,

I would hardly consider "Show Biz Kids"
a "rarity at this point.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 16:28:12 ET
Posted by: qstkpeksyea,

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Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 16:18:06 ET
Posted by: what about the jazz?,

what time does the organ trio start??? anyone know who is in the group?

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 16:05:12 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland

'Love At Centurys End', although a DF solo song, would have been an intriguing addition to the Rarities set list. Too bad the movie 'Less Than Zero' stunk so bad, as I think it dragged the soundtrack down along with it.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 15:50:55 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, rarities afterglow

when you think about it, arguably half of Sat night's setlist was a rarity of some form or other in the big picture of SD touring history.


Your Gold Teeth*
Black Friday
Hey 19
You Got The Bear*
Time Out Of Mnd.
Rikki Don't Lose That Number*
Jack of Speed*
Show Biz Kids*
Pearl of the Quarter*
Second Arrangement*
Dr Wu*
Papa Dont Take No Mess / intros
American Lovers*
My Old School
Reelin in the Years*
Encore: This Mobile Home*

11 of 20 would qualify as rarely played, never played, or rarely played in that form from an overall SD tour history perspective. So over half the show. In retrospect, that is pretty darn good. If they had tossed Hey Nineteen, TOOM, Josie and Peg for one night and instead given us Gaucho or Glamour Profession, Pretzel Logic or Bad Sneakers, Don't Take Me Alive or Altamira, and either Major Dude, Western World, or Razor Boy instead, it would have been perfect.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 15:49:33 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Bel Air - Back At The Office But Wish I Was Back In NYC

Correct me if I'm wrong but has
Pearl Of The Quarter now been played
more than Bad Sneakers this tour?

Speaking of Pearl, Don seems to have
had another "senior moment" or selective
memory much like when he first played
Lunch With Gina this year as to when
they played Pearl Of The Quarter last.

Hardly decades. It was just 4 years ago
at Jazzfest as Miss Angel correctly pointed
out I see.

Looking forward to the reports from tonight.
Have a safe trip back into NYC Gus.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 15:42:58 ET
Posted by: immemorious, nyc

I guess for me there was a difference between the very genuine thrill of hearing those strange and wonderful tunes live for the first time, and the lackluster (and under-rehearsed) performances of those tunes. They can play the crap out of Aja, and I can enjoy the differences between the recorded version stamped in my brains and body forever and the live versions performed over the years. Donald half-mouthing the words of 2nd Arrangement makes it unmemorable as a *performance*, without disparaging the tune itself. So, for me, the Rarities show was cool, without being epic.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 15:33:17 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, experiencing SD rarities afterglow

re video equipment, I saw nothing that would indicate they were video recording the show, which is a shame. There would have to be some more lighting to do that, as the Beacon is pretty dark, and I saw none. If so, great opportunity lost, but they were pulling rabbits out of the hat, so to have that preserved, warts and all, might have been too much to ask for.

From a purely selfish standpoint, with due respect to those going to the rest of the NY/Boston shows, I kind of hope they DON'T start playing stuff like Doctor Wu suddenly in the sets---that would kind of take away the uniqueness of the Rarities night.....again, that is admittedly being purely selfish.

Someone mentioned Neil Young re the subject of playing rarities. I would tend to disagree with the viewpoint that he has "succumbed" to playing hits over rarities. I am a huge NY fan, and if anything, he plays too much obscure stuff sometimes. He mostly gets criticized for not playing the more well known tunes. So his case is pretty much the opposite of the criticisms leveled at SD lately. Neil delights in pulling out the obscure just for the sake of obscurity. If there is any artist around who you can count on varying setlists and pulling out the rarely heard, its been Neil.

By the way, its apparant the DF certainly knows what fans are constantly requesting, as he mentioned that specifically in the introduction to Doctor Wu. I still don't know, however, why they play that tune so rarely, and as someone pointed out, why they seem to not play much Katy Lied stuff at all except for Black Friday. Anyone care to elaborate on why that album tends to get shafted?

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 15:21:49 ET
Posted by: David, NYC

interesting reading all the back & forth about the 'rarities' night ...

I went with a friend who had never seen them before and wasn't as die-hard as I was, so the main connection for both of us was just overall how much the band was on and how tight they were, and how much the crowd was into it...

I went to Wed night's Dawn of the Dan show as well, but thought this one had much better energy overall. So, yes I tend to agree that seeing them just rip up Aja, Bodhi, Reelin etc was the big win and worth the price of admission, and the rarities were icing on the cake.

However, for me the highlight was Pearl of the Quarter, and I couldn't help but feel that there are so many other great, melodic tunes like that that they could pull out that would be so awesome (Throw Back The Little Ones, Your Gold Teeth II, Through With Buzz, King Of The World, Kings, With A Gun, Barrytown, Only A Fool Would Say That, Razor Boy, etc) Was a bit forlorn that a couple more of those didn't make an appearance... (though nothing like embittered or POd as some.)

And I actually don't believe it would be a huge issue to carve those out of a busy tour schedule -- likely they'd just commission someone to create the charts cheaply enough, then with musicians of their calibre one rehersal would likely be enough. So, IMO its just their own particular-ness which is keeping those tunes off the roster, which of course is their perogative, but regardless, a bit of a shame that some of those other chestnuts are kept locked away...


Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 14:54:09 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland

Excited about the 'RS' show as that album is SO all-purpose:

gotta-play: Kid Charlemagne
lightly played on past tours: Royal Scam, The Fez, Haitian Divorce
deep cuts: Caves of Altamira, Sign In Stranger, Everything She Did
must play more often- Don't Take Me Alive

I will be easily sated by hearing 'RS' and the rest will be gravy!

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 14:41:25 ET

Thanks Jazzassin, not sure how I missed that, but a helluva review
by Raymond Smuckles!!! Still waitng on the "legendary" Steely Doc
review, and speaking of Steely Doc I am pretty sure Mr. Becker
gave him a shout-out at the Friday Tower theater show!! I was in the
balcony so I am not 100 percent sure???

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 13:58:05 ET
Posted by: BillfromPgh,

While searching around YouTube for some clips from rarities night, I came across Cash Only Island which I hadn't heard in a while. Musically, it holds up very well, and would have fit into Saturday's list nicely. It occurred to me that the title phrase may have become a bit anachronistic - "cash only island" being a common sign on gas station pumps from before the days of the credit card scanner. Sorta like the line in Glamour Profession "we'll make some calls from my car" which was supposed to sound like a boast in 1980.

Anyway, those of you who made it to the Beacon on Saturday witnessed a historic event. Let's face it, the acts who have been around as long as SD and tour nearly every year who dramatically mix up their sets from show to show, pull out legendary unreleased songs, and don't play their half-dozen best known hits or most commonly played live tracks every night are pretty rare. Neil Young, who used to play entire shows of unreleased material, has succumbed to this pressure. Dylan, a cantankerous and independent character if there ever was one, still fills half of his sets with 60s chestnuts (some radically rearranged). Paul Simon - same thing. And the larger-production acts play the exact same set every night: Stones, McCartney, U2, etc. A lot of us here were fans of the Dead who truly broke that mold, but they (and some of their descendents like Phish) operated in a parallel univerise of their own making and could fill halls with fans who would travel far and wide to catch entire tours. There just aren't enough of us hardcore SD fans to make that business model work for them, I'm afraid. We're lucky they broke out some real gems this year.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 13:54:47 ET
Posted by: Louis Gossett Jr, The DEEP

moray eel -

You obviously seem to have a complete recording of the B Sides show.
Are you going to post that?

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 13:51:26 ET
Posted by: Kevin from the North Shore, Boston (Rag)

First-time poster, part-time lurker, etc.

I'm enough of a Dan fan to own certain documents and therefore have familiarized myself with TSA, TATMH, etc.; not hardcore enough to post here nor catch every tour. Spent the drive from Boston to the Beacon with the first five albums on shuffle to relearn the album tracks (new-found appreciation for Charlie Freak; no love for Change Of The Guard!)

Can't tell you what a disconnect between the vibe in the room and the posts I read here after Saturday's show: By my count, 40% of the setlist was songs whose live performances post-1974 range from zero to single digits. Performed (i.e. rehearsed) by a 13-piece band in the middle of a tour. And some people call this a ripoff? I call sheananigans.

Oh Michael (oh Jesus) it seems there isn't a setlist in existence that would satisfy you. Had they played Kulee Baba -- a weaker track in my opinion -- instead of The Bear, wouldn't you just have asked for the other one? Dr. Wu was tight and much better than the Boston '09 version; Rikki and Reelin' straight ahead but nice to hear in their original forms. This All Too Mobile Home was a brilliant encore choice, and they even did the piecewise band exit (if not the 5-minute drum solo) from 37 FREAKING YEARS AGO. I remember how ecstatic I was in 1993 (having been 10 years old in '74) to be able to hear even the hits played live. I don't think D&W are the ones who don't get it.

Jack of Speed was indeed a mess and American Lovers baffled me -- but a bunch of songs baffled my brother-in-law. Why shouldn't he get to sing "Guadalajara won't do"?

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 13:45:08 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Seeking Refund, damn skippy! Fight the power! (funny stuff)

r.u.4 real, are you for real? That sounds like a great plan. Now let's see if you have the power to get it done.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 13:23:15 ET
Posted by: r.u. 4 real, new york

Aja 2 nite. The Bear will be added to the set b 4 The News.
Then Gold Teeth, 19, Godwkr, Wu, Do it, Time Out, Show Biz and Kid C.
Mobile Home will end it, and will end the rest of this Beacon stand each nite. U heard it here 1st.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 12:50:12 ET
Posted by: Seeking Refund, SR

We've heard from the complainers about rarities night. But I was at Gaucho and feel completely reamed. They advertised that they would be playing Gaucho, but I took that to mean the Lost Gaucho and expected (at a minimal) 2nd Arrangement and Kulee Baba. But no, they just played...Gaucho. And then to hear that they pulled out 2A on rarities night... it just added salt to the wound. You see, I feel that I connect with SD at a higher level than the ordinary fan (and, truth be told, all you bluebookers too and in many ways, yes even Donald Fagen.) They clearly did something wrong if they deviated from my envisioned ideal set.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 12:31:23 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minnepolis

To all in attendance for the first three shows.

Did anyone see any pro video set up for possible DVD? I am assuming that since nobody mentioned it yet that it didn't happen. It's not very often these days that a live concert is released on CD without a DVD release as well. I still hold out hope for some kind of official release of this years tour. It is a shame that they don't capture this great band in all it live glory.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 12:02:48 ET
Posted by: Vincent,

Wow - I'm watching the YouTube clips and can feel the chills and love I have for this music: must have been an awesome night for those not bitten by the snark bug The rarities set is what I've been desperate for here in the UK as the last tours have been fun but a bit samey (passim). Though the 'same old same old' might bug some (and even me), I can understand it in context here - I think it probably WAS emotional for the performers, who have to keep it together for the show, so slipping back to some old and familiar would keep the emotions in their place. Lets think positively; those songs are now performed, which might increase the probability of their being played again, and perhaps recorded and officially released. Come to Europe next year chaps, and mix it up a bit like this for us Brits.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 11:49:14 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Hoops - I listened to a soundcheck at the Fleet Boston pavilion in either 07 or 08, and I remember after Fagen listed off a bunch of real substitutions in the setlist, he started saying things like "Take out FM and substitute Horse With No Name," etc ... pretty sure he mentioned a Dark Side cut or two as well.

Thanks to the poster who told me where I could hear a soundcheck for Saturday's show, but we barely made it from our bus stop to the bar in time for the show.

Thanks to everyone posting videos. Michael, I'm sorry that from your vantage point the show was such a let down but you gotta understand why you're getting flack from people here. Watching a twitter feed and checking out some youtube clips recorded on whatever digital camera tiny enough to sneak into the Beacon is miles away from experiencing the show live. You're glad you didn't go and that's great, sounds like everything worked out for you. I'm glad I went and saw them perform The Second Arrangement while I choked back tears and sang along. I don't think that's blind faith and acceptance - that's a real visceral experience that just about everyone I talked to had at the show.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 11:44:13 ET
Posted by: warts and farts , standing down away from most of you

Ok...I was there- anticipation high for all of you who were there-so they dragged some rarities out- very cool for a band known for perfection and grace.
it brought a smile to my ....

was it all perfect?
was it all everything it could have been?

they took a shot and good or not so good I was glad to have been there

and btw the people who think they can diagnose walter from a seat in regards to health- state of mind and whatever,need to take a flying leap and worry more about themselves.
Thats a cheap shot at him and no one would appreciate it directed amongst themselves.

so here's to hoping there is gas in the car towards a Steely dan album and if not-solo albums.

I take what i can get

your truly

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 11:33:06 ET
Posted by: Greg M, ..

<<<Here's a fever dream I had last night: We were at a third encore, another rarities night or something. Anyways, SD played Pink Floyd's "Money" (Donald, vocals); "Great Gig In The Sky" (Catherine Russell, vocals) and "Us and Them" (Walter Vocals).>>>>

This would be something indeed. Actually, you could all have three girls take a part on "Great Gig In The Sky", as Floyd flawlessly did it this way in 1994. (See Pulse album/video)

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 11:25:54 ET
Posted by: Daviss, Boston

Can anyone find or post a set list from "Royal Scam" Night?? (less the RS Tracks ofcourse) Curious to see what other songs they have been playing on this night..


Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 11:03:58 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, right hand scroll


Ray's very enthusiastic and entertaining review is already posted.
Just scroll down a little bit! ;)

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 10:54:56 ET
Posted by: shecky, what's that down there?

"American Lovers" on youtube now.

My apologies if this has already been posted :D

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 10:31:41 ET

SouthofHollywood I couldnt agree with you more about Papa dont take
no mess, it brings the show to a screeching halt and does not lend
itself to good band introductions for that see (Itching in my heart)
that is the most likely reason Donald didnt get a standing O !!!
Henrod lol about the g.o.p. canidate line, however be prepared to
get flamed for it!!!Finally who muzzeled Lurker Ray??? Looking
forward to his review!!! And you too Steely DOC!!!

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 10:26:49 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

"I'm glad I didn't go"

I'm guessing that most people who went are also glad that you didn't go, Mike. You probably would've cried and whined so loudly that they couldn't hear the incredibly tight band, the ACTUAL reason for attending a show, play one of their most unique and diverse setlists ever. When about 90% of the posters in attendance, including Lurker Ray, say they were brought to tears several times during the show, and for a show to get as much praise as this one by those actually in attendance... well, I'll take their opinion over a "Monday morning setlist quarterback" any day of the week.

You really think Steely Dan has some sort of absurd animosity towards it fans and that every other band in the world appreciates fans more than Steely Dan? That's ridiculous. We all know that Steely Dan's MO as a band is that they make music for themselves/for their own satisfaction and fulfillment. From what I understand, they never anticipated becoming as successful as they've become. Even so, in this video, who does Walter Becker mention before anybody else? Right, so I guess they don't at all care about their fans.

They never forced their fans to become fans; they never made people spend money on them. And you don't at all know the specifics of their personal money situation, as far as I'm aware. Much like any rational human being in a capitalistic society, money is a primary incentive for Steely Dan. So I don't know what "idealistic" world you live in where you think it's a sin for Steely Dan to have ever made money and that they're morally wrong for making people pay to attend a concert (unlike all the other bands in the world who play their rarest, most obscure, b-side songs on a nightly basis and actually pay their audiences to attend a concert), but I know that nobody else lives there.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 10:24:07 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Okay Michael, you've made your opinion abundantly clear... many, many times. Now it's time for you to just can it and move on. A lot of people enjoyed the show and appreciated what they got... some not so much. That's just the way it it is with things sometimes.
This is a fan site. You've come on here and not only criticised the selection of songs but you've insulted the artists. If you think that's cool then so be it. I don't think it's cool and I don't think that your idea that the artists don't care about their fans is justified in any way whatsoever. They didn't have to do a rarities night at all if they didn't feel like it... but they did.

You just come across as a very small man who belly-aches way way too much.
We all know where you stand so now it's time for you to just shut the hell up.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 10:01:05 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm still stunned--in the best way, of course!

So it's funny how something like this alters one's brain.

Here's a fever dream I had last night: We were at a third encore, another rarities night or something. Anyways, SD played Pink Floyd's "Money" (Donald, vocals); "Great Gig In The Sky" (Catherine Russell, vocals) and "Us and Them" (Walter Vocals). BTW: About a decade ago, SD apparently rehearsed "Money," or so I seem to remember, or at least I had a similar fever dream!

I have the best kind of hangover, a Steely Dan hangover.


Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 09:59:19 ET

What a great F*ckn show, that said Dylyfan being sent down to the minors for his inside information!!! 3 outta 5 on my predictions
anything less then perfection a laid egg by me!!!PS: great to hear
that Howard Sterns crew went to the show (how did crackhead Bob behave) Lastly my apoligies to all BUFFALO BILLS fans what a start!!!

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 09:47:17 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Oooh, that's some comeback.

They throw you a couple of bones and you're drooling all over. Shows how desperate you are for even a morsel. They play one or two b-sides and you go crazy. Pretty sad to see. Other groups don't have so much animosity towards their fanbase. It's just like with the 'By Popular Demand' shows: people vote and SD openly admits that they don't care, that they're going to play whatever they want.

I guess that's the bottom line: they don't care, and why should they? Their fanbase will eat up anything.

But OOOH, they threw in one or two oddities. How generous of a couple of multi-millionaires to care so much about you! Yes, after all the money that the fans poured into the SD bandwagon, it's a PRIVILEGE to hear a couple of different tunes.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 08:52:19 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

I'm sure if Miles Davis rose from the grave and performed a zombie concert, Michael would be pissed he *only* performed such a clich�d hit as "So What" instead of a deep cut from one of his later albums nobody ever listens to.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 08:46:44 ET
Posted by: Michael,

tommytomato: "Well luke,nj it appears you figured a matter of fact, WAY WRONG!!

Don't feel are not the only person on this site who is conspicuously absent from any comments after last night's performance.

The rest of know who you are. LOL"

Most of the people who originally posted never gave their names. For all I know one of 'em could've been you.

BTW, I'm not "hiding" anywhere.

After hearing that live clip of SA, I'm glad I didn't go. The band sounded alright but Walter's guitar was way too prominent in the mix and his lazy manner of performance ruined an otherwise great song. No Throw Back The Little Ones, Kulee Baba, I Can't Write Home About You, Kind Spirit, etc. American Lovers was nothing special from what I'm hearing. Sure, Dr Wu and This Mobile Home are nice but there were too many missed opportunities. The description should've read: "Hits and favorites along with selected b-sides & rarities" because that's what the show turned out to be.

I admire the people on this board: their love of SD is unconditional. Most of them are too blind to notice they've been jipped. Don & Walt could come out on stage, fart and walk away and people would be posting here, "Oh, what a spectacular night!"

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 08:39:22 ET
Posted by: Ghia Girl, cloud 9 in NJ

I made it to the shows on Friday and Saturday night. I had bought my Saturday night tickets months ago when they first went on sale, Row Q. For Friday nights show, I started calling ticket brokers that day in the late afternoon and scored front row seats - at cost. This is the way I am going from now on! I have one more date on 9/23 � 21st Century. This will make a total of 9 shows this year � my 48th show in all.
Met up with a lot of bluebookers at the Amsterdam Ale House. It was great to finally put faces on some of the names. Meeting others who truly understand the obsession is magical.
Saturday�s show was something that I have never seen before. JoS, Pearl of the Quarter, Bear, American Lovers, Rikki, Dr. Wu and This Mobile Home. God What a concert. This was truly a night for fans.
Donald and Walter � Thank you, Thank you , Thank you

P.S. Steely Dan pocketbook update � Saturday night got Walter and Donald�s signature! If I died today I would be a happy girl.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 07:39:33 ET
Posted by: spiderqueendemon,

I was puzzled throughout much of the harmonically nebulous JoS last night. Something went awry, and DF mentioned not having made all the changes. There was so much brilliance otherwise, though, I completely forgot about JoS until now.

I agree that last night's show wasn't as tight as Friday, but it had a whole lotta heart. I will never forget it.

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 02:41:53 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Just home from NYC and have been catching up on my blue reading.Tastes vary I guess, because I thought that 'Jack' was really GOOD!I honestly enjoyed the rawness of it.My wife and I would like to say a huge THANK YOU to all the great Bluebookers we met.You guys made the weekend.People may or may not have enjoyed the show,but meeting others with a shared passion,90%of the time is a good thing. Peace!

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 02:26:17 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, back in the den

continuing from my earlier post, it was great meeting Dan fans at both the preshow meetup at the Amsterdam Ale House as well as post concert at the Bitter End. Met Hoops, Pete and a bunch of others from the this board all who had interesting perspectives on the show. Hoops was looking almost formal in that sportcoat. Most of the Dan fans left before the very good soul/funk band took the stage at the Bitter End, which is a shame because they were doing some nice Curtis Mayfield, Kool and the Gang, Parliament etc stuff with a sax player. The band before that was lousy though.

Some random thoughts.

The whole last row of the Loge at the Beacon was unsold for some reason. I don't know if that was on purpose for some reason or not, but those seats still had a great view.

No one bothered me about pictures at all. I was in Row A of the Loge, literally dead center. Fantastic unobstructed view, directly over the soundboard below. Sound was great. I tried not to take too many pics so I could concentrate on the music, but I did get some decent shots taking advantage of the view and the lack of heads in front of me.

Surprised the crowd wasn't a little more "rowdy" or louder. I pictured New York crowds as being a little more rambunctious. There was a little reserve in the crowd, maybe with people taking a wait and see on how the overall setlist was going to go. The St Louis show had the most enthusiasm of the 4 shows I went to on this tour.

Damn New York is full of beautiful women. A lot of nice people watching.....

Date: Mon, September 19, 2011, 01:06:15 ET
Posted by: wuz, continuing

it'll be a trick question on a future SD trivia game: Which song on that setlist was the rarest, most 'least heard' of all ?

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 23:39:20 ET
Posted by: wuz, x

Chris --

Quote >> Actually, one way to look at it: how many people have witnessed a full-on train wreck at a STEELY DAN show?! That may be the rarest instance of all ..... << Endquote

I think that's absolutely right! LOL

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 23:05:15 ET
Posted by: moray eel, n

DF: Now, here's a tune... that ah... may not be considered such a rarity on the radio, but ah... we hardly ever do it. It was big hit, but uh... I don't know, we got bored with it for many years, but we're gonna do it right now.

[Plays "Rikki"]


Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 23:02:38 ET
Posted by: wuz, wz

Cerpin -

Before Pearl, I recall DF saying something like the following, (quotes are loose) although I don't remember the ORDER:

That this is a type of 'slow ballad' ( I think that's what he said) that they stopped doing after a while, but that this was a pretty good one he supposes, that it was played for the first time in decades 'a few nights ago' , and that it was about 'some whores in new orleans'

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 22:58:04 ET
Posted by: ccw, dc

Thank you so much, Donald and Walter, for Saturday night's show! I never would have guessed I'd hear "American Lovers" live in a million years, and it sounded great. As for "Doctor Wu" and "This All Too Mobile Home" - holy shit, that was awesome. Donald seemed really excited the whole evening, and "Rikki" and "Reeling" had lots of great energy. A very special night. I hope this becomes an annual tradition.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 22:55:35 ET
Posted by: moray eel, d

DF: This is the Shuffle Diplomacy Tour 2011. My name is Donald Fagen. [crowd screams] This is my partner Walter Becker [cheers]... and uh, tonight is supposed to be Rarities Night. So... uh ... mixed in with a few other things we're gonna play some uh... odds and ends... some uh... we're gonna play some demos that have never been played before. [crowds cheers] We're gonna play some tunes that were in our book the we almost never play or some that have never been played... and also some ah... early versions of things that uh... that became something else ...finally.

DF: And ah...

[Person in crowd shouting out "Second Arrangement"]

[Another person shouts of "Second Arrangement" at almost the exact same time]

DF: So there.

DF: So, sit back. Have a good time. We're gonna start with a tune that uh... this tune was written for an album... and there wasn't really any room for it... or something like that. Right? It didn't fit. Think it was for the uh... was it for Aja or Gaucho? I forget. Aja. Okay. So it might have been on Aja...... but it wasn't. [crowd laughs]

Now you're going to hear it for the first time here in New York City. [crowd cheers]

[SD plays "Bear]


Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 22:46:54 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

For those who haven't heard the original, here is Thomas Jefferson Kaye's version of American Lovers"

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 22:42:33 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Actually, one way to look at it: how many people have witnessed a full-on train wreck at a STEELY DAN show?! That may be the rarest instance of all .....

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 22:36:30 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Jack of Oops - thanks for that, makes sense - I remember thinking they were off, then they'd hit a section dead on, then get off again - it seemed to happen at regular intervals and I thought hey, maybe that's how it sounded? Haha. I'm impressed they tried it and got through it and were in good spirits about the end result.

Still can't believe what I witnessed, what an amazing night ...

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 22:20:59 ET
Posted by: PGE, stunned and satisfied

Saturday was something else! I got to meet and say hi to quite a few of the people on the Bluebook. That included some pre-show champagne(!) - thanks for the invite, you know who you are. :)

And to top it all off I get to see Steely Dan do a show very much for us. That's the feeling I got.
Thanks to all in and around the band for making Rarities night a real treat.

Oh, and may I add that I thought Catherine Russell did a very good job on American Lovers.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 22:15:36 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach


Re: Kulee Baba

I feel pretty much the same way about 2nd Arrangement and Kulee Baba. My appreciation for them grew after repeated listening (as with most Dan tunes) and finally hearing better quality recordings (after many years of hearing some truly bad sounding stuff). Kulee has a complex sound. Might be tough for the casual concertgoer to get into. OTOH, the driving drumming would be something else, live.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 22:14:08 ET
Posted by: Jim, Baton Rouge

Question: I flying in from Baton Rouge for the Las Vegas show. I saw some comments that referred to "Casino Shows." Are they traditionally shorter than average? I went to the Nashville show and it was over 2 hours. As I understand it, the venue (Pearl Theater-Palms Resort) is a state-of-the-art soundstage with awesome recording capabilities. Would they really only play 11/2 hours for my $150+ seat? This show will be after an almost 2 week break after Boston. What think you?

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 22:11:57 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, back in the den

Wow. So many emotions, mostly good, some mixed, some disappointment. Flew in from St. Louis just for this show. In retrospect should have sucked it up and come in for Friday's Gaucho show also, but this is my 4th show of this tour.

Unlike many longtime Dan fans here, (and I started buying Dan albums back in 1975), I don't have all the outakes and unreleased stuff that many do here. I am more into live versions of songs I really like than "unreleased demos". For the most part, there is a reason a song was never recorded or never released----it ain't as good as the stuff the band did decide to release. Yes, there are always exceptions, but in the vast majority of cases the band's judgment as to what is the best version of a song should be trusted and is usually right. And the band's judgment as to what songs are best for the album is usually right.

So I didn't go into this yearning for all those pre CBAT demos, Kulee Babba etc. My wishlist for Rarities night, as I posted before, was pretty simple---I wanted to hear "songs they rarely performed" from their official catalog---with a few unreleased surprises thrown in.
I also hoped that for one night they would chuck MOST of the commonly played "hits" knowing that MOST of the audience was there specifically to hear Rarities and would be not yearning to hear the commonly played songs that all the other shows feature. I don't think that is an unreasonable expectation. Sure, they are going to play a few obvious ones. But this was the night to really really veer from the norm.

What was really cool was not going in knowing what they were going to play at all. That sense of anticipation in itself is priceless. That was good to experience again.

On the other hand, after the first four songs, I was fighting a feeling of some disappointment--didn't really want to hear Black Friday and Hey Nineteen again. On the other hand, Your Gold Teeth and Aja kicked ass as usual. So song by song.....

Your Gold Teeth--I love this tune, and in the grand scheme of things, its a rarity in the big picture, even though they have played it every night on this tour. This tune really allows the band to stretch out and play, so no complaints here.
Aja----I love Aja, its the pinnacle SD song in many ways, the ultimate example of their song craftsmanship, so how can you complain about this tune. Exquisite as usual. But I did go to 2 Aja album shows already....
Black Friday----even though Katy Lied is probably my second fav SD album, didn't really need to hear this again. Started getting antsy.
Hey 19----antsy turned to testiness. Here is where I thought they could chuck a song for a night and do something different, like Gaucho or Glamour Profession, esp since they just did the Gaucho album.

I thought they would come out with a true rarity from the get go, so this run of 4 commonly played songs was not what I expected the show would open with...
You Got The Bear----Ok, an unreleased mythic tune. Now we're talking. I don't see it as a "Holy Grail" tune like others do (see above), but I am glad I was one of the privileged few now to hear it live.
Time Out Of Mnd.----great tune, but seemed like an "automatic pilot" tune for me. Again, why not change it up with Gaucho or Glamour Prof here?
Rikki Don't Lose That Number----SWEET. Now we are talkin. I figured they would have to play this one, and so they delivered here. And yes, its a rarity, because......they rarely play it.
Jack of Speed---like many others said, while interesting, it was not greatly executed and quite frankly, I would have much preferred the album version, as it is the best tune on 2VN imo. So mixed emotion on this, rare, yes, but I would have preferred the original with Don singing.
Show Biz Kids----great tune, funky, no problem hearing this again.
Pearl of the Quarter---YES!!! Very sweet. I was praying for Razor Boy, but knew we might get this again. One of the Holy Grail tunes for me, so at this point, the early disappointment is gone.
Bodhisattva---again, great live tune, wouldn't have minded hearing a deeper album cut.
Second Arrangement----this was nice, easily the best "unreleased/mythic tune" they played. Very nicely done, I can see why so many people wanted to hear it. Very special.
Dr Wu----NIRVANA. Right before this tune, I yelled out "DOCTOR WU!" out of pure hope. This is one I traveled to hear, this is one that I knew would make it all worthwhile. When the first chords started, I got chills. Finally, I get Dr. Wu live. All smiles now.
Papa Dont Take No Mess / intros---meh
American Lovers----????? Yes, it was a rarity. Yes, it gives Don a vocal break and allows the girls to be featured. But, why not Parker's Band? A mediocre song, but it was a rarity penned by B/F, so it fits what they said they would be doing.
My Old School
Reelin in the Years

This last run of hits was to be expected I suppose, but again like the start of the show, I was hoping for more of a divergence from the expected, esp with Josie and Peg. I would have traded those 2 tunes for stuff like Bad Sneakers, Pretzel Logic, Any World, Major Dude or Western World. I thought we would hear more of those deeper album cuts.
Encore: This Mobile Home----Very nice treat and surprise. Wasn't expecting this. So they ended with a bang. Very surprised they did no Royal Scam songs at all.

So all in all, they played MORE "unreleased mythic" demos type stuff than I thought they would, but they played LESS deeper rare album cuts than I had hoped for and wished for. For that reason my reaction is slightly mixed, but make no mistake, I am VERY HAPPY I went, it was a very special night of rarely played SD music, and on the whole, they delivered a truly unique and varied setlist that won't likely be duplicated. So yes, it was worth it. I did hope for more 'deeper cuts' and less hits for one night, so it could have been better. But I am not complaining, esp having heard Pearl, Wu, Second Arrangement, The Bear, Rikki....

more thoughts on the overall experience later....

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 21:56:50 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston

Thanks to whoever uploading that Second Arrangement vid - really got the chills watching it. Donald was grooving just as much as I was!

To Wuz there --again, can you maybe elaborate on what he had to say before Pearl, etc?

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 21:31:14 ET
Posted by: luke, NJ

Dean- I believe that more people think that Kulee Babba is the holy grail.... a lot more than the Second Arrangement is. And hate that tune. At least SA grooves!

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 21:13:01 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Sup, Spider and Oops:

Thanks for all that. Very interesting.

I hope they get it together and give it another go.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 21:08:42 ET
Posted by: Jack of Oops, Train Wreck explained

The new Jack of Speed groove was indeed a shuffle...and a very chunky one. Also, some of the riffs and figures had been modified.

Unfortunately, Walter and the band started sections at different times.

In other words, the chart says "Walter starts here" and Walter starts 4 bars later.

Half the band tried to synch up with Walter, and half the band stuck to the chart.

Every once in a while (bridge, a few choruses), they all would synch up again. But since the turnarounds were different they got out of synch again.That can get pretty nasty at times -- and last night it did.

This happened because 1) there was very very little rehearsal time spent on JOS and 2) the new version was different enough from the old to interfere with instinct and memory in a pinch.

But kudos to everyone for seeing it thru to the end and not freaking and messing up after it was over. Professionals, all.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 20:52:09 ET
Posted by: spiderqueendemon,

I was puzzled throughout much of the harmonically nebulous JoS last night. Something went awry, and DF mentioned not having made all the changes. There was so much brilliance otherwise, though, I completely forgot about JoS until now.

I agree that last night's show wasn't as tight as Friday, but it had a whole lotta heart. I will never forget it.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 20:51:09 ET
Posted by: El Sup, Back in Louisville, KY

Dean - Imagine Walter singing the 1996 version of Jack of speed. Now reign in the horn section so they are not as pronounced as they were in 96 and switch out Krantz's vamp for Herrington's melodic structure. Finally cover the entire song in a Black Friday sounding groove.

It was definitely strange but still interesting to hear.

El Sup

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 20:44:03 ET
Posted by: Mark&Marie, NJ

It's not even 24 hours since the end of Rarities - an absolutely special night between Hoop's Bluebookers, Don, and Walt. Thank you Don and Walt for delivering one for our hearts and memories forever.

Thanks also to those who posted on Youtube. Is Mobile Home up yet? Can't wait to relive the magic!!

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 20:39:57 ET
Posted by: hoops, back in chicago, but wishing i was still in nyc

Just getting back up to speed in Chicago. Last night was at least a six out of five or better.

I think about Second Arrangement, Pearl of the Quarter, You Got The Bear, Mobile Home, Wu, Rikki, Show Biz, pretty much all of it...and then I stop. Did that all really happen?

We've waited decades to hear some of those...

Now and then I get some chills or tear up my eyes a bit, especially when I think of more than a few Danfans who have passed on who would have loved to hear all of what we heard. Think Maggi. Think Steve. Think Rajah. Think Bill. And, of course, think Mark. But then I can't help but think they had some influence in what we witnessed last night and that they also had the best seats in "The House."

Just incredible. This show must be officially released as soon as possible. Thanks Walter and Donald!

Thanks to everyone, especially at the Danfests before and after with special thanks to Mr. & Mrs. Winterbottom and, of course, Pete & Shari.

What a night! We wuz all buggin'!



Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 20:30:06 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Great reports and clips. Keep 'em coming, please.

I find it interesting everyone who has commented on it, says last night's version of Jack of Speed was sub-par (and I'm being polite). Now I MUST hear it. I've heard JoS in person and of course on recordings (live and studio). Every time it has been fantastic. I can't decide if I like the Walt live '96 or the 2vN version best. They both have very interesting qualities. I also really like Slang of Ages, which has sort of a rap vibe (as was mentioned by the tweater with respect to last night's JoS). So maybe I will actually like it. I'm not suggesting it wasn't bad, I wasn't there. I'm just curious.

In general (not referring to last night's version which I have not heard) I'd much rather hear JoS than Stone Piano, Dallas, Sail the Waterway, etc.

Same goes for American Lovers. Unlike some here, I really look forward to the "girls song" be it Dirty Work, Parker's Band, whatever. So I'm looking forward to hearing this, too.

As for The Second Arrangement, I like the song just fine and respect that it was one of Don's and Walt's favorites (or so the story goes). But I never felt it was the Holy Grail, as some here do. With that said, based on the one clip I have seen, it sounds really fabulous. I would have loved to hear it live.

Still jealous, and a bit pissed I couldn't attend. But loving the reports and clips. Thanks for sharing.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 20:10:13 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH

@ luke,nj I must apologize...I did find a post from you after last night's show...WOW was it different from the comment on the 14th.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 20:00:29 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH

It looks like "You Got The Bear" is going to be the one and ONLY "Raritie" played on Saturday. That figures.

The above was a quote made by luke,nj on Sept. 14

Well luke,nj it appears you figured a matter of fact, WAY WRONG!!

Don't feel are not the only person on this site who is conspicuously absent from any comments after last night's performance.

The rest of know who you are. LOL

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 19:26:49 ET
Posted by: Lurker Raymond Q. Smuckles , Malibu - Home At Last

Well the port in our hotel didn't like my old laptop or my old laptop didn't like the port but it doesn't really matter because I really didn't have the time to make full reports anyways. 4 shows in 4 days (we saw Book Of Mormon Thursday night) and I don't know about you guys, but when I'm in the greatest city in the world, I get up earlier and for some reason always stay out late. I'm so beat. I would love nothing more to have been able to stay and see the other 4 shows and my hats off to Mr & Mrs Winterbottom who are going the distance. Like I said 4 shows in 4 days and I'm beat, thought all of the travel today and the early flight hasn't helped my body either. I must be growing old.

Actually I'm really glad that I could not read the Blue after we got in last night. Many of you know me here and perhaps have an opinion about me and yes I have been very vocal about this tour and especially the ticket prices in NYC. But I just don't see how anyone could be complaining about Rarities night?! I had tears streaming down this often-grumpy face numerous times last night. So much thought, love and care went into that setlist last night I thought. They really went out of their way to create something really special for us fans in the true minority, the die-hard fans. Let's face it, we are the minority but that show last night was clearly for us. I easily would pay $250 a seat for that kind of show again, not so on Wednesday's Dawn of the Dan show but I will touch on that in a bit. I've seen many a Steely Dan show since 1993 and pre SD 1992 and last night is easily my favorite setlist. But I also think that last night's show could easily also have killed in many other markets it just had the right mix of hits and Rarities.

I don't think anyone here who saw the show would argue that Jack of Speed was a 4-car pile up and many around us were scratching their heads during American Lovers but I am very familiar with the tune and it was quite a surprise to say the least. I too am worried about Walter and hope he feels better soon. The only reason I'm not saying that this was greatest, tightest show I have ever seen is because sadly Walter seemed to be dealing with some pain last night and I really felt for him. He was talking about mortality last night and really made me appreciate the show that much more. TBT, I was starting to get agitated after Hey 19 and then when they went into Time Out of Mind after The Bear, I thought to myself, "stay positive" and the rest of night easily surpassed my expectations. When we looked at the marquee before the show it said "Rarities" and nothing about "B-Sides" and thought that might bode well. I just don't get the flaming and complaining by some here who saw the show last night, those who didn't see it I cast off to "sour grapes syndrome". The Bear, Rikki, Pearl Of The Quarter (I too was fortunate to here it twice), Dr Wu, Second Arrangement, the obscure America Lovers and This All Too Mobile Home (I thought I was done with the tears and they got me again at the encore!) if that isn�t a special show packed with Rarities, then I give up. If hearing Second Arrangement isn't on you "Bucket List" then perhaps you are at the wrong site. Sure I would have loved to have had Gully Water and Kulee Baba in the setlist, or Canyon Ladies for American Lovers, don�tcha think that song would just kill with the horns and gals? But I never in my wildest dreams thought that we would hear Second Arrangement or This All Too Mobile Home last night. But now I want to know what version 1.0 of the setlist had on it! Donald Fagen had one for the ages last night and his stories, playing, singing and commitment really made last night. Not to mention he really seemed to be having a blast.

Now I can't say the same thing about Dawn Of The Dan night. We heard the grumblings after the show and people were calling it Dawn of the Dead night. Couldn't agree more. Still looking for my wallet from Wednesday night. We was robbed plain and simple and there is no way I can justify the $250 ticket. Perhaps if we were in the back or in the balcony it wouldn't smart so much. First off, the sound was slushy, like it was fighting to be sharp & clear all night and I know it was a Wednesday night, but I thought the crowd sucked big time which also didn't help matters. You've already worked up East St. Louis Toodle-oo and played it this summer and you don't open with that?! Then you cut and run and I�m leaving town having seen Dawn of the Dan night without hearing Pretzel Logic or Any Major Dude?! C'mon guys. If you must have an opening act for these $250 dollar shows, don'tcha think maybe have them start early so you can hit the stage at 8:15 and at least give us our money's worth? Still smarting about Wednesday night and not even the thrill of hearing Pearl of the Quarter could save the bad taste in my mouth and many around us after the show.

You could tell that they had worked big time on the sound Friday night for Gaucho night. Big difference. And I'll say it again' I don�t know what it is about that Gaucho album, the running order really lends itself to a party, the crowd always seems to really eat it up. Great crowd Friday night I thought and I never tire of a chance to hear My Rival or Third World Man. Oddly enough I thought Friday night's Gaucho crowd was perhaps a notch above last night and musically including Walter Becker, Thursday night's show was tighter and better executed than last night. Man was Gaucho night hot I thought.

So I score it Steely Dan wins the 3 game series 2 games to 1. I think Boston would now be the place to see the Dawn Of The Dan night. Damn, wish I could be there. But we aren't done quite yet, even though the tax refund is now gone we just booked the last show of the North American leg in San Diego and a friend who is a regular at Harrah's just snagged us some primo seats. Just can't get enough. So thanks to the band for 2 great shows, thanks to Donald Fagen for making last night the thrill of a lifetime, get better Walter and finally, thanks to NYC, a few days after celebrating the 10th anniversary of the greatest American tragedy, you went back to work, went back to your lives and welcomed us with open arms. I will be forever grateful for that.

On to San Diego, I get four or five miles a gallon in this old car, I don't care as long as it takes me to where you are. This all to mobile home is calling after you. Well, this all too mobile home is killing me and there's nothing that you can do to set me free.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 18:55:54 ET
Posted by: WU, WU

better link

thank you bcaulf whoever you are

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 18:53:32 ET
Posted by: wuz , wu

WU !!


Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 17:46:46 ET
Posted by: fuzzy Wuzzy, off

OK, Now that Second Arrangement is posted (thanks), here's Donald's 2 min introduction - clip starting from Bodh's appluase to the first few secs of SA. DF talked about all the rarities.

Now, all told, tell me last night wasn't a good-faith effort (definitely successful, IMHO) to put on a show for "us"?

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 16:53:08 ET
Posted by: wz, x

oh well....

says you can upload videos, then limits file type to static (picture) formats.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 16:40:24 ET
Posted by: spiderqueendemon,

Sweet holy Jesus, what a night!

They worked very hard to please fanatics without alienating the casual fans who'd simply bought Saturday night tickets.

I am hoarse from screaming and sore from dancing. When the opening Dr. Wu chords followed Second Arrangement, I thought I might need to borrow someone's nitroglycerin.

If we're really nice, maybe they'll do this again someday and we WILL get a live Kulee Baba, True Companion, Razor know, whatevah. In the meantime, count me among those tremendously grateful for last night!

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 16:37:02 ET
Posted by: Mikethebaker, Home at last

Anyone go to the bitter end afterparty? Fun times?

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 16:29:39 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, crybaby


Watching the 2nd Arr video makes me realize it was probably for my own and everyone elses best that I wasn't there after all... When they started playing that song against all odds, I would probably have come & shit in my pants, started to weep hysterically and then kissed everyone around me. Then going to my hotel room to hang myself before normal everyday life started again.

It looked like Donald was quite emotional about it too? In a positive way, I mean. That it was som kind of a victory for them to actually be able to do this for the diehard fans and probably for themselves as well. After all these years finally giving re-birth to a song that once meant so much frustration and pain. He looked like dancing behind his Rhodes. No sunglasses either. Must've been a bit of a magical moment for them too, I think. And knowing how much this meant to a lot of people in the audience...

Whoah. I'm really deeply moved by this.
Reading the tweets and setlists is one thing - I was shocked enough last night when I read the magical words - but seeing it happen was almost too much.
Can't imagine how it was for thos attending the show. Ok, I can. But anyway. Great gift. Love and Respect. And a damn obsessive song.

Thanks for uploading, DB16!!

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 16:06:56 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

DeaconBlues16 -- Thank you so much for sharing that link.

Wuz -- A quick Google search tells me this is one place that lets you upload video without registering.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 16:03:27 ET
Posted by: wuz, ...

Dan -

Is there any way to post video as easily as imgur?

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 15:54:03 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY

Yeah, I guess what I meant to write was that Walter sat MOST of the night. The way he shuffled off at the end of the set made me think he was in a lot of pain. He looked old, paunchy and really stiff. His playing seemed awfully uninspired, even for the usual stoic player I've always perceived him to be. I hope the guy isn't really ill. The only time he seemed to come alive was during his very silly ramblings during Hey 19 and during the band intros. Otherwise it was the DF show all the way.

I think I have a couple of other snippets of video. I'll try to get them up later. In the meantime, here's a link to my pix and vids from the '09 Beacon Shows, in case you missed them back then:

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 15:43:12 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

Second Arrangement on YouTube now.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 15:40:03 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Henrod, great video. The band sounds great on Pearl! Thanks for sharing. Wouldn't happen to have anymore goodies to share by chance? :)

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 15:37:34 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, fine things

wuz & Dan B:

Thanks alot for that setlist pic. It's a rarity in itself to me, even if I wasn't there myself.

henrod, that worked like a dream. Thanks!

Btw, henrod... You wrote that Walter sat on his stool all night, but from your Pearl video I get the impression he's standing right up in front of it.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 15:26:04 ET
Posted by: wuz , PS

YIKES! More posts from me today than in the previous 5 years!

Just wanted to add: I was sitting in a very last row of the floor, to the side a bit (sound was excellent!), a few empty seats around me. So I could see the whole crowd at once.

OK....that's it from me, promise!

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 15:24:08 ET
Posted by: wuz , web

Thanks Dan!

The seitlist is now at

Yeah, being open to surprise would have been better..
But I just had the "foreknowledge" that people were going to be made happy! which heightened something for me. And indeed everyone around me seemed thrilled. You could clearly spot brothers and sisters who actually knew the rarest songs....they were going nuts (and I ran over to them for some high five love a few times!). But also interesting was the rest : it seems to me they were LISTENING RESPECTFULLY: They knew what a Rarities night meant even if they din't know the songs...and they seemed "supportive" of the experiment on stage.

Anyway, that's just some of my personal 'color' from an extraordinary (for me) night

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 15:07:50 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Setlist, Half Empty Half Full

Wuz there: Knowing in advance what the setlist will be does hold some heft, desire and perhaps power in terms of quelling suspense and having a great big question answered as a fan. The question here, really, is "How much longer would you have had to wait simply to have all these setlist questions answered..... naturally?"

That said, I was determined to be surprised last night, even though I peeked at the Dawn setlist.

It was the first time in 15 years I didn't know what would happen at a Steely Dan show. Allowing myself to revel in the surprise of it all was half the fun. The discovery. And the sense that this was what the band wanted for its fans on this very special occasion.

Now that this gig has come and gone, it will be very interesting to see further setlists from this tour. Will these chestnuts have a rarities-night afterlife ? They sure worked hard to pull it all off.

If this group should continue with a multiple night residency in the future, I would love to see them have more all-star Jazz guests, like Pat Metheny. Has anyone ever heard the versions of FM, Josie or Sign In Stranger that Pat played on before the 1993 tour?? Now THAT was a special show, too !


Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 15:02:18 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY

OK, try this:

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 15:02:10 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Wuz, go to and click the button to Upload images from your Computer. Pick the file, hit OK. Then hit Start Upload. Once it gets done, it'll open a new page with links to your image. Just copy the link from the Direct Link field and post it here.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 14:54:44 ET
Posted by: wuz , etc

also see it's headlined "V2". Version 2? I never saw an earlier one. Makes you wonder what was put in or taken out

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 14:53:08 ET
Posted by: wuz there --again, pdf confusion

I will send a pdf of my scanned setlist to anyone who knows how to post it for all to see. I don't have any twit tweet twat accounts and don't want to open any.

Jack of Speed is notated as the "shuffle version" (it was a completely different meter than either previous JOSs. I agree with "train wreck"...oh well)

When I look at this list and remember the band last night (I could especially point to the ladies), what extra effort and hard work this magnificent band put in so that we could see this show.

Anyway, somebody post a way for me to share this pdf without me needing to sign up for anything?

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 14:42:48 ET
Posted by: Wuz there --again, clifton

Wanted to add (especially after reading such warm sentiments from Mike and Marie and others) --

I too felt an incredible sense of getting a direct gift -- statement -- from don and walt. I know from the inside reports that this was understood as a show FOR US (or at least, for those of us who wanted this show).

Several things were said from the stage that were UNCHARACTERISTICALLY DIRECT, INFORMAL COMMUNICATIONS with "deep fans" .

For each rarity (includes bear pearl wu rikki jos american SA), Donald made a long, conversational introduction, including some history of the song, when it was written,m why it was rare, etc. It was in all ways like we were a private audience -- competelyt unlike 'usual'.

Several times I heard a few chants start up -- "Thank you! Thank You! Thank You!".
I joined in, with a little tear in my eye. I hope they heard us.

If that makes me a chump....then...

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 14:30:55 ET
Posted by: Mark&Marie, NJ

After being lurkers on this board for the last few years, we have to agree with the previous post - no more complaining, ever, about the set list. This show was the SHOW for Hoop's bluebookers! It was personal and we should be thankful to Don and Walt.

Could not help ignore Walter's comment during the show - "We're not going to be alive forever".

Last night was for Hoops and the rest of the SD loyalists.

Don and Walt - Thank you very much!

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 14:30:52 ET
Posted by: Wuz There, exit 53

Hi all -

Funny the differences in Danfans.
I am a longtime fan, involved in discussions of rarities, speculations etc.This was my first show this season.

I had the incredible HONOR to have the setlist before the show started (I will not name my in-tour host/benefactor).I felt like I had and INCREDIBLY WONDERFUL secret piece of news in my pocket. In other words, I ASSUMED that any danfan in this audience would be DELIGHTED with the joyous news in my pocket. I felt that way all the way thru to the end (mobile home!). Before the show, I was almost bursting with the feeling - Oh boy! Dreams fulfilled! Everyone is really in for it now!! --. It never occurred to me (until reading here) that showing that setlist to a danfan would register as a disappointment. To each his or her own, honestly. As I said, funny the differences.

As for me, I think each and every phrase of this advertisement from was met, literally: ( I won't bother to match song(s) with phrase):

"The unreleased, the mythic, the reborn, the rarely-if-ever-heard; On this numinous Night of Nights, all will be revealed (along with additional selected favorites and hits)"

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 14:17:59 ET
Posted by: Cruiser, 12 am


Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 14:04:03 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, almost asleep at the sugar shack in pennsylvania

I spent more time getting to NYC and home last night than I was actually there. I made it to the show about halfway through Dizzy's, and was on a bus back to Philly before midnight. My take on the show? Fascinating... Honestly, the first time I ever heard Mobile Home was earlier this week on a live recording we aren't really supposed to discuss on here. Weird, very weird how the timing worked out that way... I imagine there were a lot of people who creamed their pants when they heard Second Arrangement. Yeah, it was great, but it has never defined why I'm a Danfan... I'm glad they played it though. It's what all of you have been waiting for, right? Can the complaints and bitching end now? What else do ya want? Really.... My highlights of the show... Pearl of The Quarter, Dr. Wu, and Walt W's phenomenal as always sax work.. Something else I have noticed recently.... When I listen to SD at home, or at the shop, or in my car...I probably will fast forward through Josie, or FM, or Peg, but when I am seeing them performed live, my jaw drops, and I am TUNED IN! So, I never really feel the need to complain about any live set list, ever.....

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 14:01:49 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Kamp Ken

DeaconBlues16 and Young Wu: Agreed, agreed, agreed. Honestly they pulled more out of their hat last night than I'd expected, and it was, for the most part, an awesome experience. This All Too Mobile Home? Second Arrangement? Dr. Wu (personally, this was only the second time I'd experienced that live)? Pearl of the Quarter (never thought I'd hear that live, much less twice in one week)? Those alone were worth the ticket price. Sure, there's a long list of rare/less played numbers I also would have killed to hear, say, Kulee Baba or King of the World, but I'm most certainly not complaining. I think most of us in the audience were not only happy, but a little dumbstruck by the end of the show.

The only disappointment for me is that this rather astounding "Rarities" show was a one-shot deal... it would be great if they started throwing at least one or two of those "rare" numbers into each of the general/non-theme show setlists. (e.g. "West of Hollywood" would sound pretty darn good on 21st C night...and I'll still hold on to my "Surf and/or Die" pipedream...)

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 13:44:23 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Care in the World, Post - Show Malaise, NJ

I posted the following on FB, with a scan of my stub:

"I've seen Steely Dan 17 times now since 1993 (their initial return to performing after a 19 year absence). Last night, magic occurred at The Beacon Theater in NYC. For uber-fans like me, who seem to have acquired all sorts of unreleased material over time, it was a once in a lifetime event. The crowd was somewhat mixed in terms of age, race and gender, though the scales did tip towards a demograph that largely ingests food through a straw and hopefully invested in long term care planning. I think I actually saw someone farting dust in the lobby.

To have seen a group not known for its setlist variety as many times as I have, this was the place on earth to be yesterday."

The fact that the band took as much time as it did in having all these tunes arranged for a big band only to be performed once is really an awesome treat. Not knowing what was coming next was the rarest type of treat, what with internet spoilers allowing us all to time our bathroom visits and beverage purchases in advance of the show for the past 15 years.

The in-between song banter between Donald and Walter seemed more relaxed, as if they were holding a party for themselves. It had a family feel because of who was in the audience. And there was a true sense that they were not only doing this for us crazy super-fans, but also for themselves, as evidenced by the inclusion of the two rarities people have been scratching their heads over the most. What they did last night took some balls, certainly alot of extra preparation (including doing a great job of keeping things secret). The rehearsals for this show must have been like Blue Harvest (!) Mr. Fogel did a great job of warning me to not get my hopes up in advance of yesterday's show, though I now suspect he knew very well what may have been going on behind the scenes in the days and weeks leading up to this.

In all honesty, I got a little bored on the 2007 Heavy Rollers show, maybe because casino shows seem to have a more perfunctory feel. The 2009 Royal Scam show at Beacon and the 2009 request night in Boston reaffirmed my faith that these old Jewish guys still have a little gas left in the car.


Beast w/o A Name

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 13:43:55 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Care in the World, Post - Show Malaise, NJ

I posted the following on FB, with a scan of my stub:

"I've seen Steely Dan 17 times now since 1993 (their initial return to performing after a 19 year absence). Last night, magic occurred at The Beacon Theater in NYC. For uber-fans like me, who seem to have acquired all sorts of unreleased material over time, it was a once in a lifetime event. The crowd was somewhat mixed in terms of age, race and gender, though the scales did tip towards a demograph that largely ingests food through a straw and hopefully invested in long term care planning. I think I actually saw someone farting dust in the lobby.

To have seen a group not known for its setlist variety as many times as I have, this was the place on earth to be yesterday."

The fact that the band took as much time as it did in having all these tunes arranged for a big band only to be performed once is really an awesome treat. Not knowing what was coming next was the rarest type of treat, what with internet spoilers allowing us all to time our bathroom visits and beverage purchases in advance of the show for the past 15 years.

The in-between song banter between Donald and Walter seemed more relaxed, as if they were holding a party for themselves. It had a family feel because of who was in the audience. And there was a true sense that they were not only doing this for us crazy super-fans, but also for themselves, as evidenced by the inclusion of the two rarities people have been scratching their heads over the most. What they did last night took some balls, certainly alot of extra preparation (including doing a great job of keeping things secret). The rehearsals for this show must have been like Blue Harvest (!) Mr. Fogel did a great job of warning me to not get my hopes up in advance of yesterday's show, though I now suspect he knew very well what may have been going on behind the scenes in the days and weeks leading up to this.

In all honesty, I got a little bored on the 2007 Heavy Rollers show, maybe because casino shows seem to have a more perfunctory feel. The 2009 Royal Scam show at Beacon and the 2009 request night in Boston reaffirmed my faith that these old Jewish guys still have a little gas left in the car.


Beast w/o A Name

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 13:09:12 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

DeaconBlues16... great post. If I could wave my magic wand (as someone who was not at the show), Jack of Speed and American Lovers would disappear and be replaced by two deep cuts from any of the first four studio albums. But still, that's just bullshitting.

I can't believe people are upset over how many unreleased songs they played last night. They played three. Three! More than the last 5 tours combined. Anyone looks at The Bear, Mobile Home, and Second FUCKING Arrangement and says "Not enough unreleased stuff, mommy!" is an entitled brat.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 12:50:48 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

HenRod, thanks for linking that video, sounds great!

As far as the rarities night setlist is concerned, those disappointed with the setlist were expecting way too much. I realize that most of the complaints were from trolls, but for the "legitimate" complainers, as Dean said, "it isn't hard to complain about the setlist for someone who is simply a complainer."

First of all, you have to pay attention to things Donald and Walter have said in the past and the albums from which they've played most of their material live. If so, it would have been clear to not expect ANY Pre Can't Buy A Thrill "Android Warehouse" demos. Of the 10 songs from Can't Buy a Thrill, they've only ever played Do It Again, Dirty Work (sung by the background vocalists), Reelin' in the Years (only started playing the original version in 2009), and Midnite Cruiser (sung by Walter Becker, only on 1996 tour). While we as fans might enjoy Kings, Fire in the Hole, and Brooklyn, it's clear that Donald and Walter don't want to have anything to do with them. So, if they aren't going to play those songs, how could you ever expect them/hope for them to play Stone Piano, Dallas, Sail the Waterway, or anything from You Gotta Walk it Like You Talk It?

While it's obvious that Fagen and Becker aren't too fond of Can't Buy a Thrill, it might be less obvious that they aren't too fond of Katy Lied. It's a very emotional album (relatively speaking), and that might be why they don't like it as much (because they can't relate to what they were feeling at the time of its conception/recordings). Or maybe it's because of the DBX sound issue. Or maybe they just don't like the songs as much. Anyway, from Katy Lied, they've played Black Friday, Bad Sneakers, Doctor Wu, Everyone's Gone to the Movies, Chain Lightning, and Any World that I'm Welcome To. That's 6/10 songs, but it's surprisingly deceptive. Doctor Wu was only ever played last night and at a few 2009 request night shows, and considering how great of a song it is (my opinion but one that I think is shared with many others), it could've been played more. The fact that it isn't speaks volumes to how Donald and Walter feel about this era in their music career. Everyone's Gone to the Movies was played in 1996 and has been only done in instrumental format since then. Any World was played at a few 2006 shows with Jeff Young on vocals. Chain Lightning hasn't been played as part of a regular setlist for quite a while. I don't agree with this, but some people on here consider Bad Sneakers a rarity. So, it's pretty obvious that they aren't really fond of Katy Lied material.

Therefore, why would you expect to hear outtakes from the Katy Lied sessions, especially the outtake version of I Got the News, which is way too lyrically similar to the actual version of I Got the News to worthy true distinction? In fact, I bet Donald and Walter don't even consider that version part of their arsenal, and they certainly weren't the ones to release it to the public. Contrastingly, we all know that they feel that Aja and Gaucho are worthy enough albums to play in their entirety? So, don't you think that whatever outtakes/unreleased material came from those sessions would be more likely to get played on rarities night that unreleased material from other eras? Considering that question and considering the fact that The Second Arrangement is easily their most famous "unofficial" track, it should be no wonder that it was played over stuff like Mister Sam and Stone Piano.

And I don't think that some people really understand that it was advertised as "Rarity Night + select hits." Before the show, I would've said they definitely would play Josie, Peg, Hey Nineteen, My Old School, Reelin' in the Years, and Kid Charlemagne. They didn't play Kid Charlemagne, but I'll replace that with Black Friday. So, you now have Aja, Bodhisattva, Time Out of Mind, and Show Biz Kids that are very often played songs that they could have played more "rarities" in their stead. I'm not counting Your Gold Teeth, since that's rare to a lot of people still, and I feel like the explanation as to why they played Rikki Don't Lose that Number covers that one (not a rarity on the radio, but we rarely ever do it live). Could they have played four more obscure songs instead of those four I listed? Sure they could have. But you have to keep in mind that: 1). Considering their perfectionist attitude and their reluctance to even acknowledge their unreleased tracks, it's a stretch there was even a "Rarities Night" to begin with 2). They're going to play what they want to play for the most part. I doubt they ever want to play Doctor Wu and The Second Arrangement, but they sucked it up and played those songs. And those are probably two of their (if not the two most) most requested rarity songs. 3). Going back to their perfectionist mentality, as others have said, they couldn't possibly rehearse all potential rarities to the extent that it would live up to Donald and Walter's standard. For that, I'm grateful. I'd rather hear a really fantastic version of Aja than a really sloppy version of Kulee Baba. 4). Not everyone going to the show was going for the rarities. Have you ever considered that there might be some, not-as-hardcore fans attending this show simply because they really wanted to see Steely Dan and this was the only show they could attend? It's possible is all I'm saying.

Personally, I would have been happy just to hear This All Too Mobile Home and Doctor Wu. But that's just me personally. From Countdown to Ecstasy, I prefer Razor Boy and King of the World to Pearl of the Quarter, but it seems as it's the opposite way around for Donald and Walter... and I still would have loved to hear that one. Sounds like the letdowns were Jack of Speed and American Lovers (maybe they could've played Kulee Baba or another deep album cut/b-side here). But the point is that some of the rarities were more of letdowns than the hits. From the posts on here, I doubt there was one person at the concert who liked American Lovers more than Aja, Peg, Josie, or Hey Nineteen.

So, if you think Steely Dan has lost touch with reality, I think you've lost touch with the reality of Steely Dan, who they are, what they stand for, and what defines their past.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 12:30:47 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Pearl again

Thanks, henrod!

Looking forward to see it. It could of course be just a case of traffic overload for that video right now, as well. :D

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 12:26:44 ET
Posted by: Mr Belzoni, Funway west

What about Century,s End??

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 12:21:18 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY

Hahahahaha... My FB page is private, but I did open up that post for all to see. I'm surprised that it didn't load for you.

I'll upload it elsewhere later on today and post the new link. Happy to oblige.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 12:19:13 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Re: Pearl video


Any chance you could share that video on Youtube or similar?

The page you link to won't load at all, so even if you have an open FB account i can't watch it there. If your account is restricted, I wouldn't be able to watch it even if the page would load, because I don't use FB myself.
I wont bother to explain why here, but I know I'm not the only regular here who don't use it.

BUT I'd love to see that video, so if you'd bother to give us a link which don't require the membership of any closed internet community, you'd really be making my sunday.

Pretty Please W/ Sugar On Top?

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 12:14:53 ET
Posted by: Depends, doing laundry

I would have been looking for clean undies after Second A was followed by Dr. Wu.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 12:10:23 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY

I think that some of you folks aren't in touch with the reality of being a musician, and specifically a touring musician and what that means for a set list.

The Rarities show is a one-off on this tour, if I'm understanding their schedule correctly. Do any of you think that it's realistic for a band like this to write a chart for a 12-piece band, rehearse it, perform it once, then simply put it away? Just to satisfy a bunch of folks who have the audacity to say that D&W are out of touch with reality? Whose reality? Their reality is what it is, and if it doesn't match your expectations, well, too bad! Get a grip, people. Several folks here have said that they expected what they got, but were STILL disappointed. Really? You make as much sense as a GOP candidate with logic like this.

I consider myself damn lucky to be able to see these guys have often as I have, and to still look forward to the next show, the next tour, the next album and wonder what it will all bring.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 11:55:04 ET
Posted by: Michael,

SouthOfHollywood, I'm with you on that. They've lost touch with reality. Naturally, the SD blowhards have to come on and rank and file us as "whiners" and "complainers" but... it doesn't change the reality of the situation, that D&W have lost touch with reality, that they simply do not care anymore.

Seriously, which would you rather have heard on a night entitled 'Rarities': Show Biz Kids or Your Gold Teeth II? American Lovers or Kulee Baba? Jack of Speed or Throw Back The Little Ones? My Old School or I Can't Write Home About You? In every instance, I choose the latter.

But they did play Second Arrangement, You Got The Bear and This Mobile Home. Not a total loss but definitely didn't live up to the "mythical night of nights" moniker.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 11:49:42 ET
Posted by: Rockaway Beach, NYC

Read all of these tweets about last night's show.
I was there, the fans clapped along with a number of tunes.
There were a number of standing ovations.
The band was tight! Incredable !!
The back up singers were great, and extremly attractive.
I fully agree with your comments Mr. Belcher. Anything to rare and the crowd would have been lost,
Thankyou David for the setlist, appreciate it.
The Beacon is beatiful!!!!
American Lover? In the words of Fagen after this tune was over, and I quote:
Both Becker and Fagen make Steely Dan what they are, great charactors, great music. So sit back and enjoy it !!! We only go around once.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 11:44:56 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY

Pearl of the Quarter video:

Click on my 'wall' and you should be able to see it.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 11:32:51 ET
Posted by: klaus&therooster, Philadelphia

I'm happy to see some people still live in reality. I was not there last night (i was at the tower last weekend however) and that setlist is pretty much what i expected. You can't honestly think they were going to work up something like Kulee Baba or another late-period outtake for the band to painstakingly learn and then play once! and then fill an entire 20 song setlist with the like. We all know second arrangement is the holy grail for danfans and you got it (and hopefully we get it on video soon). Pearl and the Bear are treats, and Mobile Home is a great song that slipped under the radar in everyone's predictions for last night. Seems like American Lover's which, we have to stop kidding ourselves, isn't that great of a song, and Walt's Jack of Speed which I saw performed in '96 and it sucked and then again in 2000 with don's version and even that was plodding and lame, seem to be the letdowns. Here at the Western World I thought was a shoe-in especially because I actually saw an uptempo version of it open the Don Fagen solo show at the Tower in '06 (is there video of that anywhere?) and I personally thought it was very cool. Dallas, Sail the Waterway, Runnin' Child, could have easily replaced a few of the usuals but what are you gonna do? If you would a told a danfan 10 years ago that they'd play last night's setlist you woulda said they were insane. Remember when nobody knew about these tunes let alone had recordings of them? I remember buying old regime, stone piano, gaucho outtakes, etc. in the mid-90s wondering how Don and Walt managed to let them be released and "tarnish" their perfectionist image and now we have them not only acknowledging stuff like that but actually playing it at their shows! Put it in perspective people!

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 11:08:24 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, ...and the torture never stops

Following the tweets and comments here last night in real time, I must say it was an absurd experience.
The setlist was, imo, quite a treat. I think Steely Dan fulfilled every realistic expectation of the percentage of true rarities that any sane fan could ever have had. I'm bummed I couldn't be there.

Then, on top of that, I get the "entertainment" of reading hilarious complaints from people who obviously deserve an olympic gold medal in he art of complaining... The winner actually managed to post 21 comments of bitter complaints during the 2 hours+ of the show he didn't attend , and then some honorary rounds as well.
Best was when it was actually complained about the least known rarity of them all, "American Lovers". If there's not enough rarities played, thats wrong. And if the rarities are so obscure you haven't even heard of them, that's actually wrong, too. Hello? Anyone at home in there?
A strong number two complaint was the one where it was said that this show didn't meet any expectations - despite the fact that the poster obviously haven't had any expectation whatsoever, has posted numerous comments in the near past about it, and refused to go to the show for that reason.

Thanks to Chris, B w/o N and all others who wrote enthusiastic about a night that must've been 2 hours of ecstasy for most of those attending the show.

Sad to read that Walter seems a bit out of shape these days.
If he's actually having health problems, I wish him a quick and full recovery, and pray there's nothing really serious. Let's hope that the two weeks pause after the last Boston show on oct.1 will give some relief from whatever it is, and that the rest of the tour will be carried out without problems for him.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 11:01:00 ET
Posted by: David, NYC


Your Gold Teeth
Black Friday
Hey 19
You Got The Bear
Time Out Of Mnd.
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Jack of Speed
Show Biz Kids
Pearl of the Quarter
Second Arrangement
Dr Wu
Papa Dont Take No Mess / intros
American Lovers
My Old School
Reelin in the Years
Encore: This Mobile Home

Great show, fantastic energy ...
the Rarities were great to see, but Pearl was my highlight i think

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 11:00:54 ET
Posted by: SouthOfHollywood, Hotel Beacon, 20th floor

Sadly, I am in agreement with immemorious. Last night's show had so much potential and in my opinion, it went almost wholly unfulfilled. Maybe my expectations were just too high. Maybe I have just seen too many shows and it is finally time for me to hang it up. Maybe I am just old and cranky. Or maybe the band missed out on what could (and should) have been a very special night.

When the show started with four songs that were anything but rare, I felt myself become restless. Agitated. Fooled. �You Got The Bear� was next and it was excellent, as expected. It has always been my favorite of the little-known/unreleased songs and it provided me with a glimmer of hope for the remainder of the show, a glimmer that was quickly dashed by the intro of �Time Out of Mind�. Here we go again, I thought.

�Rikki� was next and it was great to hear for sure, but it certainly would not have been on my chosen list for this night. �Jack of Speed� followed and this actually was a song on my hopes list for the rarities show, just not the version that was played last night. The only way to describe last night�s version would be �train wreck� and someone who knows this band and their music much better than I do used those exact words when talking to me about it.

Please don�t get me wrong. There were moments. Pearl of the Quarter was outstanding. The Second Arrangement was an absolute pleasure to finally hear but I�ve never been one of those who have considered that song to be the Steely Dan Rosetta Stone. Dr. Wu brought a tear to my eye, as I always knew it would. I�ve waited my whole life to hear that song performed live and it was everything I had hoped for and so much more. Thank you for that.

But much like the now-tired WB rap on �Hey Nineteen�, Papa Don�t Take No Mess just takes up entirely too much show time and the song that followed it--American Lovers--was just about as baffling a choice as I could possibly have imagined. It was a complete showstopper in the worst possible way. Josie, Peg, My Old School and Reelin� brought the crowd back to life but again, there�s nothing rare about these old chestnuts.

�This All Too Mobile Home� was a killer closer and left a taste of what could have been.

A somewhat bitter taste, in my opinion.

Please don�t remind me that the show was billed as �Rarities Night plus Select Hits�. I can read. I get it. I just don�t know if the band does anymore.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 10:49:48 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Chris! Beast! Thanks, great reviews.

Lest we all forget...this is the best freakin band in the land

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 10:31:20 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

When was the last time they didn't play Kid Charlemange?? 1974?

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 10:00:14 ET
Posted by: TQM, US

Wasn't there some quantum thing with Walter's accident? And it happened around the time that 2nd Arrangement was erased? That's why he couldn't walk last night.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 09:31:51 ET
Posted by: henrod, NY

Pearl of the Quarter made 2011 for me! Damn, what an awesome surprise. I agree with immemorious regarding Walter - he could barely walk, and sat on his stool the whole night. Also, his playing was terribly boring and repetitive, especially when on the same stage as Jon Herington. I don't, however, agree with his thoughts on the arrangements. They were busy, for sure, but I thought they were done really well and never sounded overwhelming or muddy to me.

And Don... he took off his sunglasses! And looked happy getting up with his melodica and away from the Rhodes. It took him 40 some-odd years, but he really looked happy and comfortable on stage. It was fabulous to see. And hear. Can't wait for Friday night and 21st Century Dan.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 08:58:05 ET
Posted by: immemorious, nyc

The rarities show last night was my 20th Steely Dan show, and likely my last. Walter looks physically ill and emotionally disaffected, and he didn't even bother learning the Jack of Speed chart. He could barely keep up with his one lick on 2nd Arrangement. I can't imagine they're going to tour again after this year.

Also: I'm puzzled by why every tune needs all 13 instruments going at one time or another... the little four-piece of Herington, Washington, Carlock, and Beard playing the outtro of Mobile Home had a great groove, and gave some major sonic relief, even though they were the last eight bars of the night.

I guess I found myself wishing I'd been listening to beautifully recorded versions of The Bear, 2nd Arrangement, and Mobile Home.

Also: American Lovers is a terrible tune for SD.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 08:54:39 ET
Posted by: duncan, UK

Thank's Chris, Nh
I'm looking forward to reading some more soon.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 08:54:13 ET
Posted by: duncan, UK

Thank's Chris, Nh
I'm looking forward to reading some more soon.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 08:01:45 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Overall I'd give the setlist a C+ or half-satisfactory. They gave maybe 50% of the rarities they should've.

My Old School
Reelin' In The Years
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Time Out Of Mind
Hey 19
Black Friday
Your Gold Teeth (played all over this tour)

Second Arrangement
You Got The Bear
Dr Wu
Jack of Speed '96 (feat. Walter on Vox)

Rare B-Sides:
Pearl of the Quarter
Show Biz Kids

American Lovers
This Mobile Home

They could've substituted Aja and maybe Your Gold Teeth for 3 rarities (Aja's about twice as long as a normal song).

Missed opportunities/rarities:
Throw Back The Little Ones
Your Gold Teeth II
The Fez
Through With Buzz
King Of The World
With A Gun
Only A Fool Would Say That
Kulee Baba
I Can't Write Home About You
Kind Spirit
I Got The News (studio outtake version)
Et al.

That's my take.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 05:18:49 ET
Posted by: Chris, Nh

I'm sitting on the bus up to NH post-Rarities night and HOLY FUCKING SHIT CAN YOU EVEN BELIEVE THAT SHOW?!?!?

I'm quite honestly not sure where to begin, maybe I'll post a full review later. My buddy and I snuck down from the peasent section for the last couple tunes. I was not expecting an encore. I was still reeling from everything I had heard that night. Then they came back, security let everyone gate crash the stage, and Fagen - responding to the many requests being yelled (including my own drunken requests for Kulee Baba - what can I say, I was feeling lucky) said "we're gonna play what we want to play. We're gonna close this show the way we did in ln the 70s." I lost my shit, jumped up and down, accepted an invitation from a danfan for a high five, screamed along to the whole song and I fucking SWEAR I got a smile out of Fagen (who did leave the stag before the song was over, actually dancing!)

I have no complaints. The show was phenomenal start to finish. The setlist - we snagged a copy! - was perfect, well paced, the "hits" they selected were beautifully and flawlessly executed ....

I will Write more when I haven't been up for almost 24. Hours, pecking away at my iPhone on a bus back to NH ....

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 04:57:03 ET
Posted by: Thirty miles, Out of Phoenix

What was the Mobile Home arrangement? Did the drummer get some? did the guys leave the stage before the song was over? Awesone sounding show.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 04:31:17 ET
Posted by: luke, not your Uncle

Was at the show tonight!

Pearl of the Quarter was off the freaking hook! Absolutely beautiful!

Second Arrangement was grooving! And what a surprise to hear this one!

You Got The Bear-- Surreal!

American Lovers was a surprise! I first heard this song in the early 90's

Dr. Wu- The best version I've heard/saw them do yet

Mobile Home knocked me out of my seat!

Even Rikki was kick ass!

This show lived up to the hype. So please don't feed the NY Bills....I mean trolls!

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 03:06:27 ET
Posted by: mike_the _wu, Jersey

Hey everyone, I know I an an old dude but the tweet thing is just annoying, can someone post a set list?, from the bits and pieces I am reading it sounds great. Sorry Hoops, I am not a Tweeter, and that annoying Tweet thing at the beginning is brutal. Feel free to tell me to get in to the Tweet world (which I will not) or feel free to email me the set list, I do include my real email address on here

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 02:48:24 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Name, Bliss

Wow. What a night.

The sound was great where I was sitting. To hear Your Gold Teeth, Aja, Rikki, Dr. Wu, Second Arrangement, You Got The Bear, Show Biz Kids, Pearl of the Quarter, that strange Jack of Speed concoction and This All Too Mobile Home all played at the same show was a pretty damn special experience.

Would I have traded Jack of Speed or that completely obscure tune Cathryn Russell sang for Haitian Divorce or My Rival or True Companion ? Yes. But what Danfan could ever complain again after this show?

Drove home from the show past where Donald spent time growing up and
listened to Gold Teeth, Show Biz Kids, Caves of Altamira (Becker and Fagen version), Black Cow demo, Second Arrangeent, Kulee Baba, that Woody and Chick version of FM...

Great to see you Hoops just after the show ended...

Looking forward to seeing the onslaught of international envy about to be typed around here. This show was the keeper of all keepers. I saw the September 17 show in 1994 at Irvine. This show eclipsed that one. Amazing.

Special shout - outs to St. Al (you were there in spirit), minorWorld, Pete and Shari, Maggie McCoy in heaven, you would have loved this night, YKG...... and all others I've ever communicated with through this book and Sign in Stranger.

Too bad the band couldn't have replaced Bodi, Peg and School with Any World, Western World or a whole host of others. Again. NOT COMPLAINING.

Here's hoping some clips surface from this special evening.

For all you musicians, Second Arrangement was originally written in E minor. For this performance, it was played a wholestep down in D Minor, the saddest of all keys, really.....

Beast w/o A Name

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 02:33:12 ET
Posted by: Kevin - loved it, yonkers

complaining that Pearl OTQ and Bear "aren't rarities" because "they've been played before"....First of all...WTF?
How about, Bear was played for a few days early in the tour, and Pearl was played for a few days in the tour....IN REHEARSAL FOR RARITIES!

Having said that, I hope the both stay in shows for future audiences to enjoy.

loved it, my 4th SD. Also, very friendly for a manhattan crowd!


Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 01:55:00 ET
Posted by: angel, NYC

OMG! I cried when they played Second Arrangement. I couldn't believe my luck.

What a wonderful Beacon show. It was truly worth flying 3 thousand miles for.

Great to see so many good friends and sorry I couldn't go to the Bitter end.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 01:34:15 ET
Posted by: drkrueger, altoona pa

hey numbnuts:

didn't ya read the ad:

Sep 17 New York, NY Beacon Theatre | "Rarities" + Selected Hits


Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 01:33:53 ET
Posted by: Bikemann, NJ

OK folks. Jack of Speed was an alternate arrangment even from the 96 shows.Very differant. Show was just great!

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 01:24:53 ET
Posted by: Downtowner, NY, NY

Ah, just back from the Beacon. Really great show. I've seen Fagen/SD 20+ times (beginning with the Lone Star all those years ago). A few thoughts:

- Do I wish they'd played a half-dozen more unreleased (or unreleased by SD) tunes? Kulee, etc.? Of course, but that was never in the cards.

- Pearl of the Quarter was stunning, and I would've been pissed if they hadn't played it. Just because they've been playing it at other recent shows doesn't make it ineligible for this show. Ditto Your Gold Teeth.

- For all you complainers, the "rip off" folks, let me tell you this: the crowd - the folks who bought tickets - were decidedly more vocal about the non-rarities. Bodhisattva, Peg, and My Old School were the favorites tonight. The reception for "The Bear" was pretty low-key (although it, too, was wonderful).

- The Bear, Second Arrangement, Pearl of the Quarter, Your Gold Teeth, American Lovers, This All Too Mobile Home (introduced by DF as This Mobile Home, btw) + Rikki (rarely played and great to hear) Dr. Wu (ditto), Reelin' (played straight, I've only heard re-arrangements).

- And, as much as I would've enjoyed additional rarities, the band was unbelievable on the stapes: Peg, My Old School, Aja, and Show Biz Kids stood out.

For those of you who are complaining about the show based on set lists only, well, you had to be there.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 01:13:20 ET
Posted by: impressed,

Bravo, Steely Dan. I hope some of this shows up on YouTube.

You are Kings of the World! (at least part of our little Steely world)

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 00:46:06 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston

Looking at this complete setlist, looks like such a show.

I really hope it is somehow preserved for posterity's sake.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 00:41:03 ET
Posted by: Christian Weston Chandler,

Yo Dean, don't go misquoting me. I said "Stone Piano or something." That "something" embodying anything elusively rare like say, Kulee Baba, which I'm sure every real SD fan wanted to hear.

Seriously, it took them twenty years just to play a measly 2nd Arrangement. And plus, unlike Zappa, they only did it for the money.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 00:38:48 ET
Posted by: Mark&Marie, NJ

Back from the Beacon Again - Saturday night. Steely Dan Delivered! No one can complain about the lack of deep cuts. The Real Deal!

We can only hope some recordings show up on youtube to play thousands of times.....

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 00:32:28 ET

to all real people on this board:


I've never seen a B-Board give more ammo to trolls as this one.

For god's sake -- no matter what they bait us with -- no matter what a perfect comeback you think you have --


Educate yourself about trolls and what they have done for 20 + years.

They have destroyed B-Boards, and at this time, after the rarities night, is their perfect petrie dish.


peace out

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 00:31:18 ET
Posted by: oleander, gladstone bag

The din below notwithstanding...My life is complete.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 00:28:32 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

"I pity each and every one of the souls who arrived at the Beacon tonight expecting to hear Stone Piano..."

Yes! Those two people are going to be SOOOO pissed off!

You unmuted absurdity, not reason.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 00:25:26 ET
Posted by: moray eel, N

No one went to the show expecting to hear Stone Piano. People went to thi show hoping to hear The Second Arrangement a a handful of other deep cuts... And they got it. Everyone that I saw at the show left satisfied.


Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 00:01:30 ET
Posted by: Chris Chandler, Let's unmute reason for a second

The ULTIMATE question is why can't Steely Dan just have the decency to play these five or so rarities at a regular concert considering this "rarities" concert was completely buried in greatest hits? The answer is: To Steely Dan, money speaks English and diehards speak Swahili.

I pity each and every one of the souls who arrived at the Beacon tonight expecting to hear Stone Piano or something.

Date: Sun, September 18, 2011, 00:00:16 ET
Posted by: moray eel, N

Dean: just kidding about 2nd encore.

Hoops did get everyone in the center section dancing to My Old School though. Great show!


Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:56:50 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Oh, Young Wu. In response to your question. There has been a lot of talk on The Blue about a certain '74 concert recording. The last song on that recording is Mobile Home.

OK, time for the Mayweather/Ortiz fight.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:53:00 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

moray eel, did they really play another encore? Do you think the our twitter contact left early? What about Hoops? That would really suck for them.

And, Young Wu, it isn't hard to complain about the setlist for someone who is simply a complainer.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:31:49 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

Maybe I should brush up on my Dan history (or maybe not apparently)... but was This All Too Mobile Home a standard closer for their shows in the early 70s? I'm sure I've read it in Brian Sweet's book, but I can't really remember.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:29:22 ET
Posted by: moray eel, N

A lot of people left, but 2nd encore... Kulee Baba



Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:27:53 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

I agree Dean. Sounds like a great night. They played much more deeper cuts than I thought they would.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:27:53 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, correction

I would have liked to SEE more deep album cuts on the setlist. I didn't hear anything tonight.

And it's hard to complain about this setlist guys.
Bear, Pearl, Jack of Speed, Rikki, Wu, 2nd Arrangement, Mobile Home. Nice shit.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:27:12 ET
Posted by: Wolfgang, in a vault

This All Too Mobile Home. They encore with a tune that was the encore from some show that has been highly discussed here as a show that should not be highly discussed here. What irony.

Great setlist tonight. Sure there were so many others that could've, should've been played instead of the same-ole, same ole...

but, but, but, blah, blah, blah. Kudos to the Dan.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:27:03 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Well Dan, they played a majority of hits and a small handful of rarities. If "fans" paid to go see a concert titled 'Rarities' and were disappointed to hear rarities, that would be their problem, would it not?

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:26:08 ET
Posted by: moray eel, N

Hoops got the party started in the center section on My Old School.


Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:24:36 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

Wow... Mobile fucking Home for an encore? That kinda solidifies this night. I would have liked to hear more deep album cuts, but it's a pretty nice setlist.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:24:19 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

The ended with This All Too Mobile Home. That's about as perfect an ending as they could have done for Rarities night, right?

For those <i>still</i> bitching about this set list: Can you imagine the number of people who would have never, ever paid another cent to attend a Steely Dan concert again, or even buy one of their CDs ever again, had they shown up tonight and not heard a single song they recognized? Remember that the vast majority of the concert-going public probably didn't even realize tonight's show was going to have a radically different setlist than any other show.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:24:09 ET
Posted by: Michael,

I disagree 100%.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:23:23 ET
Posted by: Greg, .

Quite simply, they delivered. What a setlist.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:18:51 ET
Posted by: Michael,

My Old School! Reelin' In The Years!


Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:18:29 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Holy Fucking Shit! I am so bummed I couldn't attend. I would have gladly paid top dollar to hear this concert.

According to this night was this: The unreleased, the mythic, the reborn, the rarely-if-ever-heard; On this numinous Night of Nights, all will be revealed (along with additional selected favorites and hits).

I think they delivered on all counts, and then some. I am shocked at some of the selections (2nd Arrangement, American Lovers--even Riki). BRAVO!

I'm looking forward to the first-hand accounts. I really want to know about how these tunes sounded and the reaction of the audience to these nuggets.

I anxiously await a recording (audio only or video, too) from this night. Legal, of course.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:14:10 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Peg 15 minutes ago. No updates since.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:09:59 ET
Posted by: 11 o'clock, plenty of time left

Plenty of time left for them to play Kings, King of the World, Throw Back The Little Ones, Brooklyn, Rose Darling, Razor Boy, With A Gun etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:05:25 ET
Posted by: rs, nj

Why don't they ever play Fire In The Hole?

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:04:17 ET
Posted by: Michael,

YGT is not a rarity; they've been playing it all tour long. Pearl is somewhat. Rikki? That's not a true 'rarity' from where I'm sitting. They did The Bear a few times during this tour (but it's definitely a rarity). Dr Wu they played last tour, but it's still nice to hear. Overall, American Lovers and Second Arrangement are the rarest things all night thus far.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:03:58 ET
Posted by: Dugan, Here

Sit the fuck down Hoops!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:01:31 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa

"Dr Wu", "Second Arrangement", "Pearl of the Quarter",
"Your Gold Teeth", "The Bear" "Rikki..." which they rarely a couple of other rarities and some seminole hits.
Sounds like a great night to me. I definitely would
have felt satisfied with that lineup !!!!!!!! Steve

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 23:00:09 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Dan, yeah, that's right, I AM bitter -- bitter against bands from the 70's that constantly sell the same old bag of tricks and are so loaded with $$$ that they no longer care about their fanbase.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:58:34 ET
Posted by: Freddie, unbelievable

Give me an F-in break! Who goes to rarities night to hear Josie! ...and before you say it, I know the show is advertised as rarities + selected hits, but really, come on; you can hear most of these songs on any given night!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:58:22 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Man, I'm two for two.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:58:12 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Michael, and neither am I impressed with you. I would hate to meet you in person because you must be one incredibly bitter, hateful person.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:56:14 ET
Posted by: OMG!, They Played Josie!!!

I can die now...

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:55:02 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Hey Dan, stick a fork in it. I'm not impressed.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:55:00 ET
Posted by: Christian Weston Chandler,

SD are only getting credit for playing American Lovers. (Forget the 2nd Arrangement. That ones been long overdue.) Man... nowadays, I'd rather listen to the Deep Blue organ trio. At least those guys are good jazz musicians without diamonds lodged up the ol' anal canal and haven't been playing the great rock n' roll swindle live for the last 20 years either.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:53:55 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Josie ...then Peg comes afterward.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:53:25 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

To everyone complaining about tonight's setlist:

Jesus fucking Christ! What the fuck does it take to make you happy!? You probably would manage to complain during a threesome where you were having sex with two of the most beautiful women on the planet.

There, I feel better now. Well, as good as I can feel while not being able to attend the show at least.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:52:52 ET
Posted by: Michael,

That's true, but overall this setlist is nothing like I imagined (and does not live up to expectations thus far).

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:50:53 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minnepolis

I'd have to say a song they wrote but never performed is the very definition of rare.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:49:16 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Alright, I am proven mistaken. I've never even heard of it. I guess that makes it super-rare then.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:48:26 ET
Posted by: Michael,

*note* This is RARITIES night, not COVER night.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:48:00 ET
Posted by: Finally Looking, Good

Now that's pretty cool. Great Song! American Lovers was written by Don & Walt. I gotta give 'em props for pulling that one out. If you've never heard it, you gotta check it out. Also, a song called Jones. Both were written by our boys and can be found on his First Grade album, available on CD as a 2-fer with his first release.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:47:47 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Well that's just fine and dandy. But a Steely Dan rarity it is not.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:47:37 ET
Posted by: Greg, .

??? No clue

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:46:44 ET
Posted by: American, lovers

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:43:35 ET
Posted by: Michael,

The hell is that?

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:40:20 ET
Posted by: Michael,

klaus, how much could we expect? More than what's been given thus far. A LOT more.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:39:24 ET
Posted by: klaus&therooster, philadelphia

Totally geekin' out over this setlist, you knew they'd play SECOND ARRANGEMENT!!! somebody better youtube that STAT! how much could you possibly expect from don and walt? don't tell me you guys honestly expected to hear mr. sam, kulee baba, runnin child, etc. the night isn't over yet however

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:38:42 ET
Posted by: Michael,

You mean Jack w/ Walter singing. They played it back in the 90's.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:38:27 ET
Posted by: Donald & Walter should have called it their r, "Tribute to Bernie Madoff Night"

Fucking their clients and laughing.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:37:50 ET
Posted by: Greg, .

Jack 96 appears on nothing official. It's as rare as it gets.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:36:57 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Who really cares? Pearl isn't in the same league as I Can't Write Home About You or Kulee Baba or the outtake version of I Got The NEws or Throw Back The Little Ones or Almost Gothic or...

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:35:21 ET
Posted by: Greg, .

So Pearl is not a rarity??? Hmmmm

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:34:28 ET
Posted by: Michael,

I beg to differ. Two outtakes + a small handful of B-sides does not warrant the Rarities moniker.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:34:25 ET
Posted by: Greg, .

YGT is a rarity for 99% of the audience who don't have the bootlegs. :)

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:33:15 ET
Posted by: Better Business Bureau, of Greater New York City

The Bear
2nd Arrangement
Dr. Wu

That's it so far?

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:32:35 ET
Posted by: Greg M, .

Dr. Wu clinches it. Irrespective of what they play next, this night lived up to it's name. Think bigger picture.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:31:07 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Greg, how is YGT a rarity when they've been playing it throughout the tour? Now if they'd play YGT2...

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:30:07 ET
Posted by: Michael,

They pretty much had to play Dr Wu.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:29:36 ET
Posted by: Greg M,

Jack of Speed '96 IS a rarity.

Arguably, so is YGT

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:28:41 ET
Posted by: Ho Hum, Florida

OK, great, wonderful, they played 2nd arrangement. Still a let down in my opinion. Like some other dude said earlier, all those who witnessed it will say it was worth it, but i still the show looks like a rip-off.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:25:40 ET
Posted by: Dugan, Oh I get it now!!!

All these comments are being spoofed by don and walt! They're fucking with us!!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:24:57 ET
Posted by: Eric, Portland, OR

I am astounded at the number of crybabies in this forum. For god's sake.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:24:54 ET
Posted by: For those keeping score at home..., ...the Rarities/Hits ratio is now 1/4

at there was a 2nd Arrangement

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:23:48 ET
Posted by: Michael,

That's two so far, discounting Pearl.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:23:28 ET
Posted by: WupDeeDoo, $125 richer & happier for not going

Wait for it...wait for it...wait for it...Ahhhhh!...there they are...more rarities...Peg, Josie, My Old School, etc. What a crock of shit!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:23:09 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

And there it is!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:23:05 ET
Posted by: Dugan, Here

I see hoops bopping like a muppet during 2nd arrangement

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:22:51 ET
Posted by: Hoops, NYC

Second arrangement!!!!!!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:22:49 ET
Posted by: Hmmmm, well shut my mouth

2nd Arrangement. Wow.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:21:28 ET
Posted by: Oh boy!, not there

What the hell is so rare about them playing Bodhisattva? It would be rare if they DID'NT play that tune in concert!! What's next? My Old School?? What a sad night.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:21:25 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston




Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:21:11 ET
Posted by: What Do You Mean?,

They just played Bodhi dude!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:20:46 ET
Posted by: Michael,

I must be a cynic.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:19:26 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Maybe at the tail-end of the show you'll get The Second Arrangement, but that's going to be about it.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:17:17 ET
Posted by: Still Holding out Hope, here

They still have 45 mins left. I'm not sure if anyone from their camp monitors this page or not, but it'd be nice if someone could get the message out to them that the fans want the promised rarities.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:16:33 ET
Posted by: Michael,

What have I been saying since the beginning? That they don't give a crap about the fans anymore because if they did they'd give us what we want. They've become just another old fogie 70's group cashing in on their staple hits.

Care to dispute that point now?

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:12:37 ET
Posted by: Our Boys, Suck

They've definitely lost touch with reality. It's a sad shame they didn't deliver.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:10:40 ET
Posted by: Shame on them, What a bunch of assholes

Fuck them.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:10:13 ET
Posted by: You Guys, SUCK

Get off the fuckin' stage you losers!!! Screw you Donald & Walter for gypping the fans!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:10:03 ET
Posted by: Nate, Cincinnati

I almost flew out too and I already saw 4 shows this summer...definitely would be a bit upset right now...

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:08:19 ET
Posted by: Effen, A

I got it. They are going to Gallagher's after the show and ordering rare steaks.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:07:40 ET
Posted by: Screwed Again, by the Dan

WHAT A FUCKIN' JOKE!!! Don & Walt are known for their snide & sarcastic humor, but to take it out on the die-hard fans, ESPECIALLY during these tough economic times, is downright DISCUSTING! If I were there, I'd be booing after every song!!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:07:34 ET
Posted by: Squid Billies Hard on, Glory Hole

Rarities? Hell Yeah!

They plays showspisskidz 2007 Hell yeah!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:05:46 ET
Posted by: Chris Chandler, @Dugan

Resorting to insults that are equivalent to the brain level of small insects and Aerosmith fans, are we now, Donovan? We're all your friends on this here Bluebook. There's no need for givin people flack. Just sit down an' I'll pass ya a bong.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:04:16 ET
Posted by: Pffffttt, Home

I'd be throwing things at the stage by now. Wow, and I almost flew across the pond for this??!!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 22:00:07 ET
Posted by: Nate, Cincinnati


Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 21:53:55 ET
Posted by: Vic, X

Passing off a #4 single as a rarity?

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 21:51:31 ET
Posted by: Dugan, Here

Fuck you, Chandler!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 21:49:05 ET
Posted by: Steely Dan Fan?, Wondering?

Wow Time Out Of Mind Was Played After The Bear.
Still pulling the cobwebs from my eyes what an amazing night!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 21:41:34 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville

Missed going up with some friends because of these very same reservations. I've seen the Dan so many times that yet another trip without KNOWING that the rarest of the rare would be played just wasn't going to happen. The shows from earlier this summer were some of the finest I've seen. I hope all who have gone tonight get their magic song. If they play Razor Boy, I will slit El Sup's neck when he gets back in town. Have fun boys and girls.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 21:40:54 ET
Posted by: Cristian Weston Chandler,

WOW! They're playing the legendary unreleased title track to AJA tonight?!!! Holy GodJesus! I never thought in all my years they would finally unveil it to the grateful legions of Dan fans!

I've been hearing of Aja's (the song, not the album) mythical status since, the early eighties; of how DF and WB were so proud of it but then a horribly deranged tape engineer had the UNMITIGATED AUDACITY to lay out a dookie all over the tapes in order to sabotage Steely Dan's latest LP for an immensely jealous Kenny Vance.

Thankfully, 1978's Aja was still released on time but the recording of the title track was sadly laid to rest and cremated. DF and WB were simply too heartbroken to re-record it. They were also too busy riding on the coattails of their latest ground breaking teen hit parade smash "Throw Back the Little Ones" that had everyone from hipsters to stay-at-home mommies singing that charming refrain "...And gently squeeze them."

Maybe next, they'll play that unreleased "pantonal 13 bar blues with chorus" outtake that I think they called Pug, right? Brian Sweet's highly acclaimed book claims Michael McDonald lays down some soulful vocals of pure silk on the chorus about a satirical "All in 3-D foreign movie!" Shame no one ever got to hear this potential masterpiece! But remember, tonight's, rarities night, keep your fingers crossed people!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 21:34:11 ET
Posted by: Another, Scurvy brother

How hard would it have been to roll out East St. Louis for the opener? Unless it was mis-reported, that was played earlier on the tour.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 21:30:37 ET
Posted by: ~~Glad Not To Have Wasted My Money~~, LOL

So Far





HEY 19

Sooooo many rarities so far!!!!!!!

What a F*CKIN WASTE OF MONEY They have to be done by 11~~~

Another short show and an other waste of money~~~

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 21:29:28 ET
Posted by: Dugan, Here

This is fucking unbelievable

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 21:20:02 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston

Call it timing, being in front of my computer on a Saturday night, but I'm pretty excited to catch the tweeting of the set list.

Got a little giddy when I saw that Pearl of the Quarter was played at the last show.

Still haven't bought a ticket for any of the Boston shows (being broke and a recent college graduate), but if I see a Second Arrangement or PotQ on the list tonight...I just might.

I just might.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 20:47:00 ET
Posted by: moray eel, 15

15 minutes to show time. Seems to be a standard SD crowd in age, etc.


Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 20:01:52 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, @ Bill Foley

Full Katy Lied creds:

Black Friday

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitars: Walter Becker
Fender Rhodes: Michael Omartian
Piano: Michael Omartian
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald

Bad Sneakers

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Hugh McCracken, Walter Becker (solo)
Piano: Michael Omartian
Percussion: Victor Feldman
Vibes: Victor Feldman
Backing vocals: Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald

Rose Darling

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Larry Carlton (acoustic & electric), Dean Parks (electric & solo)
Piano: Michael Omartian
Percussion: Victor Feldman
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald

Daddy Don't Live In That NYC No More

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitars: Elliot Randall, Walter Becker, Larry Carlton
Piano: Michael Omartian
Organ: Donald Fagen
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen

Doctor Wu

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Larry Carlton
Piano: Michael Omartian
Fender Rhodes: David Paich
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Saxophone: Phil Woods
Percussion: Victor Feldman
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen

Everyone's Gone To The Movies

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Dorophone: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Walter Becker
Fender Rhodes: Donald Fagen
Organ: Donald Fagen
Saxophone: Donald Fagen
Percussion: Victor Feldman
Vibes: Victor Feldman
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen, Sherlie Matthews, Carolyn Willis, Myrna Matthews

Your Gold Teeth II

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Denny Dias
Piano: Michael Omartian
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Vibes: Victor Feldman
Backing vocals: Donald Fagen

Chain Lightning

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Wilton Felder
Guitars: Rick Derringer
Fender Rhodes: David Paich
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen

Any World That I'm Welcome To

Drums: Hal Blaine
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Larry Carlton, Elliott Randall
Piano: David Paich
Organ: Donald Fagen
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Percussion: Victor Feldman
Backup Vocals: Michael McDonald

Throw Back The Little Ones

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Walter Becker, Elliott Randall
Piano: Michael Omartian
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Horns: Jimmie Haskell, Bill Perkins

I'm envious too.
I wish I were in NYC even if daddy don't live there anymore.

Wishing everyone a great night at the Beacon!!

Tweet away, please!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 19:53:21 ET
Posted by: Envious,

Enjoy tonight all in NYC. Can't wait to hear updates! Here's a quick "wish list" for those present

2nd Arrangement
Throw Back The Little Ones (agree with prior post, this would be great live)
Wet Side Story
Cash Only Island
King of the World
Rose Darling

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 19:18:41 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa

I don't think Ambrosia was in Steely Dan's league, but their classic single "Holding on to Yesterday" is a remarkably good pop tune that has stood the test of time.
Besides holding out hope that SD will make a stop in Tampa later in 2011 or in the spring (with Steve Winwood), I eagerly look forward to hearing about tonight's "rarity night" at the Beacon.
I am preparing for a potential coronary if we get to see either "The Second Arrangement" or "Here at the Western World" on youtube tomorrow. "Dr Wu" and "Rose Darlin" would be 2 other great choices for a wonderful evening.
The crew from "The Howard Stern Show", Robin, Gary and Jon were in attendance the other night and might be at tonights show too.
I look forward to hearing their comments on the show Monday. Jon Hein (inventor of the term "Jump the Shark")mentioned SD on Howard's "Geek Time" show saying how captivated they all were by the 1st show at the Beacon.
I remember on an old Stern show from many years ago, Howard declared that his favorite "Steely Dan" song was Bodhisattva"..just some essential trivia to share with you all tonight.
Enjoy the rest of the tour, Ladies & Gents...Steve

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 18:09:11 ET
Posted by: Bill Foley,

Doea anyone know the musicians who played track by track on Katy Lied including soloists?


Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 16:57:04 ET
Posted by: Mo, Under the weather in Bergen Country

I know this is cutting it close, but if there are any Bergen County fans out there wanting to go to tonight's show, I have 2 tickets available. Upper balcony, row F seats 3 & 5. Cost: $147.50 for the pair. Get back to me ASAP to make arrangements to meet. You can text or call my cell: 201-417-1823


Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 16:50:24 ET
Posted by: Twitter Question, sadly not in new york tonight


Does anyone know if the twitter feed from tonights 9PM Big Show will be in REAL TIME or should we expect delays?

Just wondering. Thanks

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 16:32:15 ET
Posted by: Answering Chris, NY

Amsterdam, up against the door near the corner of 75th.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 16:26:05 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

It also wouldn't surprise me if they did a few cover songs

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 15:59:37 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

SD is a 13 piece band and DF/WB are perfectionists. I just don't see them playing many songs that weren't on their albums. I see a half and half setlist, with the half rarities being mostly b-cuts. Time and money wouldn't possibly allow them to play numerous songs that didn't make the cut on an album.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 15:56:13 ET
Posted by: Chris, Bang bus NYC

PS - I'm fully expecting nothing more than THE BEAR and a handful of "rare" album cuts. This is fine by me. Its a Steely Dan show, it's gonna be a blast!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 15:50:45 ET
Posted by: Chris, Bolt bus to NYC

Anyone know (a) when the band soundchecks and (b) if said soundcheck can be quietly observerer in a public space outside the beacon?

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 15:37:42 ET
Posted by: PGE, New York - IT'S A SIGN!

While shopping at the local CVS on Lenox Avenue today mere hours before my first Steely Dan concert in the USA, what do I hear playing over the speakers?

"What a wonderful world this will be..." :)

One of the girls working these sang along.

Time to plot the way to the Amsterdam Alehouse.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 15:22:09 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata


I believe that when SD promises a "rarities" show, it doesn't necessarily mean songs that never appeared on their albums, but rather deeper cuts that have rarely, if ever, been performed live.
Not sure they will come up with 20 songs that have never appeared on their albums.

Who knows, though, maybe they'll surprise us with side 2 of Android Warehouse.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 15:09:50 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

Lem, J... if that's your mindset, you'll probably end up being pretty disappointed tonight.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 14:50:37 ET
Posted by: Lem, J

TBTLO? Why would any album cut be considered a rarity?

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 14:43:32 ET
Posted by: Waiting, and Hoping

I'm one of the biggest SD fans around, and although I'm not able to be at tonight's show, I can't wait to see the posted set list and pray they pull out all the stops. I really hope they don't disappoint tonight. Unfortunately, having said all this, I have this gut feeling that it's going to be a huge letdown and the ultimate slap in the face to the fans. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the do indeed play The Second Arrangement, but aside from that, I think it's gonna be a lot of the same old stuff. Of course, if they do play TSA & no other "rarities", those present will say it was worth it, but I'd disagree. For me, I'd feel cheated if I didn't get at least 3 songs that had never been played before. Oh well, we'll all know soon enough how Don & Walt really feel about their fans.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 14:42:55 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Throw Back the Little Ones is a perfect rarities choice. Upbeat, chunky horns, plenty of room for Jon and an extended Beard piano solo at the end.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 14:42:22 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Throw Back the Little Ones is a perfect rarities choice. Upbeat, chunky horns, plenty of room for Jon and an extended Beard piano solo at the end.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 14:37:22 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

My jealousy for you bastards who get to experience Rarities night is overflowing... so I hate you all. May tonight be filled with greatest hits galore!

But seriously, enjoy the show. Can't wait to see the setlist.

Dylanfan. Pearl of the Quarter and Boston Rag so far. You're on a roll.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 14:28:43 ET
Posted by: Rockaway Beach, New York City

Going to the Raraties show tonigt, wearing my Caves Of Altemera tee.
Big fan from the beginning. Would appreciate a complete list of tonights tunes when it's over. Enjoy

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 14:26:33 ET
Posted by: Beacon Man, NYC baby!


Today is THE day. The numinous night of nights. Hey Lurker Ray, where are you? Where are you sitting at the show tonight? Too busy lunching with DF? NOT! See you at souncheck.

To all other true DAN fans, enjoy tonight as it will be a night to remember.

The Beacon Man

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 13:54:05 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Props to quicksilver57:

Props to The RockingRev:

Somebody, anybody, tell us about Pearl!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 13:20:24 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

Mr. La Page...I understand Ambrosia may have some nice deeper cuts, just as many bands do but I stil view them as a California pop band of that era. And franky that's how they decided to define themselves. I view Steely Dan as a New York band with a much more sophisticated sound and lyrics that very few can match.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 13:01:13 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Rarities! Should be another amazing show tonight. Wish I could be there. We usually see a minimum of 2 shows per tour, but alas, only Musikfest in Bethlehem this year, which I had the treat of reviewing for NJ's rocker, The Aquarian:

When I think of song selection, I always consider tunes where they can include horn arrangements. I'd love to hear from someone who heard 'Pearl' at the Beacon to see if they wove horns in. As much as I'd love to hear Brooklyn, Razor Boy, Charlie Freak, Western World, Only a Fool, etc, it would be fascinating to see how they incorporate horns into the mix.

Couple of things I notice about postings from the loyal Dandom here are the occasional "been there, done that" gripes about set lists. Another, as I can testify to, having experienced the Musikfest gig on 8/10/11, is that this may be the hottest, swinginest, most talented and energetic SD band ever to hit the stage. These guys are (pardon the cliche) just off the hook. Jim Beard may be the ultimate coup. No disrespect to past keyboard players, as they've all been superb, but Beard is simply tailor made for this ensemble like no other.

My $.02

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 13:00:56 ET
Posted by: moray eel, N

Every show that I've been to, Fagen gets a standing ovation: California, Detroit, Chicago... except in his hometown. Wednesday and Friday = no standing "O".


Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 11:05:30 ET
Posted by: $1M ?, NY

Will they exclude the foremost of their rarities, 2A?

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 06:21:25 ET
Posted by: Impoverished Peasant, Mud Hut , UK

This is it - rarities night.
There has been a lot of speculation, a lot of expectation. In some ways it is like a test of the decades-old relationship between the band and the hardcore fans whose lives they so deeply affected. Will that symbiosis be acknowledged, honoured and respected now, at the start of the end of history ?
Please get those setlists flowing as soon as you can - here in third world UK the real rarity is seeing SD at all . . .

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 03:03:14 ET
Posted by: me, here

Tonight(Saturday)is going to be amazing! The hardest of the hardcore fans will be at this show. I hope you guys stand up and and go nuts! Let Donald and Walter know how much we love them!

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 02:39:43 ET
Posted by: Keith and Anne again, west side

whoops..sorry for the empyy post.

also wanted to say, we were very aware that we may have been hearing Gaucho in full for the last time...the last Glamor Profession,the last Gaucho, the last third world man. All of them were magnificent in their own ways...but GRAND, sweeping,the way history might feel if it is pssing by. We had chills.Kudos to the lights guys. especially on 3WM.

. Ok to beddie bye now...hope to hear from others who were there.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 02:29:20 ET
Posted by: Keith and Anne again, west side

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 01:15:57 ET
Posted by: west side, just home

Mark & Marie:

We Agree!!!!!

Just wanted to get that out there before the pissers (from ny, and even from across the country!) come on this board and do their thing :-). Where did you sit? We were on the floor, just under the balcony, row P, 2nd aisle. The audience energy was just crackling and the band was on fire.

Keith and Anne J.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 00:55:35 ET
Posted by: mike_the _wu, Jersey

Hi Gus, they were probably saying that they didn't have time to leave the stage and come back for an encore since the curfew is 11pm. I wonder why they don't start at 845 instead of 9. But having said that sounds like a good night. How did you like the Beacon?, we are going up there to see CSN on 11/6

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 00:31:25 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Manhattan

Gaucho Night at the Beacon, 16 September 2011

Intro: Dizzy's Bidness 9:00 PM

Gaucho (album)
Black Friday
Show Biz Kids
Papa Don't Mess/Band Intros
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years
Kid Charlemagne

Outro: Untouchables Theme ~11:08 PM

There was no official "encore" tonight, but after Reelin', Donald and Walter conferred briefly onstage, and then they continued with Kid C.
I'm too tired to give an accurate account of what Donald said before they started Kid C; I will have to leave that to others.

Date: Sat, September 17, 2011, 00:11:55 ET
Posted by: Mark&Marie, NJ

Just back in from the Beacon - Friday night show. This may have been the best SD show since Roseland Ballroom 2003, Saturday Night! Would like to hear from others. Once we got thru the Gaucho album, which was followed by Aja, things really took off. SD was much more "electric" than we can recall in a long time. Crowd seems to be standing, and in the aisles. Beacon security not that tight. This was great!!!!

Was this one special, or are we just imagining?

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 20:06:12 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, one more before I go

@ Highland again:

<<But then again when you think about it, Don & Walter gladly jump at the chance to sell their music to be sampled and often the end product does sound like shit and I can't expect that they were happy with the results and NONE of those sampled nightmares appear at www.SteelyDan either.>>

Of course not. They're not their records/nightmares. As you may have noticed, they don't promote other artists records on their website.

Btw, my home system right now is two Mission MX3 speakers driven by a Sony Integrated Amplifier TA-FB940R. Not by any means the best that money can buy, but definately not the worst either...

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 19:41:00 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, tin ear

@ Highland's School of Sound:

Of course there's a big difference between high and low bitrate compressed formats and lossless formats! No doubt! Do you think I'm deaf?

However, in this case, I stand by my word. Crap in = crap out. The lossless format can not compensate for the fact that there's not much to write home about regarding the sound quality of that 37 year old tape. If you can't hear it, you're the one who needs a better equipment.

The problem with the relatively crappy sound of the source indicates that it's a waste of money to go for a better digital format.

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 19:39:22 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Packing Up for the Beacon

Mr. LaPage,

I agree with Mike_The_Wu, the subway is $2.50 for a one way ride, and a cab is $3.00 + 2.00 per mile or 0.40 per minute of "waiting time". Waiting time is defined as "stopped or slow". I think the Number 1 train goes from Penn Station to 72nd street. It surely stops at 79th street. But I am still fairly new at NYC commuting.

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 19:25:27 ET
Posted by: Highland Appliance, Stereo Department

"The stream is low bitrate mp3, but higher bitrate or lossless flac won't add much to the listening experience."

You need a new stereo and speakers then. Or maybe a better understanding of decompressed FLAC files. The streaming free
feed can't hold a candle to the unwrapped WAV files on a great system.
Agreed with a lot of what you said but you don't seem to know much about
sound quality.

"Licencing to rap groups for the use of some musical elements in a totally different context has NOTHING to do with this."

Agree with that. But then again when you think about it, Don & Walter gladly jump at the chance to sell their music to be sampled and often the end product does sound like shit and I can't expect that they were happy with the results and NONE of those sampled nightmares appear at www.SteelyDan

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 19:23:20 ET
Posted by: mike_the _wu, Jersey

Mr. LaPage

Just take the subway to the Beacon from Penn station, that is what we are doing (unless you prefer taxi's)

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 19:05:15 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Don't Buy This Thrill

Judicial Coleslaw said:
<<If they were unhappy we surely would have heard from the official camp by now.>>

Everyone's aware they're actually busy working hard elsewhere these days, right? Like at the Beacon Theatre in NYC, right?
Do anyone expect them to engage in a juridical fight over the same old tape that they've clearly denied the distribution of for 37 years in the middle of the Beacon run?
Do anyone suspect they don't have a heart, and that they will deprive their poor attorneys from their income by doing their job for them?
I don't think so.

The following quote from was posted here recently, but a good thing can't be repeted too often, so here we go:

"The only authorized live SD full length performance releases are 1) Alive in America CD (1995) and 2) the PBS-Plush DVD/VHS (2000). All other live SD concerts are unauthorized, illegal bootlegs."

So they have actually made the proper statement a long time ago, and I must assume that this recent release of the legendary '74 show is covered by that statement.

On there is also a long list of unofficial pre-CBAT stuff that they don't get any royalities for, and a hilarious writing by Walter which can be read here:

I guess it's this page that "My, P" refers to when he/she writes:

<<The last thing they would do is make an official statement about an unofficial release. Well, they did about the CBAT stuff, and the unspoken message was "if you must have this, please obtain it without paying for it.">>

I openly admit I "must" have this & that, for no other reason that I love this band's music a lot, I am a curious person, and because I can.
I have heard most of the boots, rarities & outtakes more or less publicly available, including the '74 show, but one thing is for sure: I never paid a single cent for any of them, nor would I ever dream of re-distributing them for money.
Ideally, I would actually like it if there was nothing but the official releases to be heard at all, but all my theoretical loyalty towards the beloved geniouses can't change the fact that it's out there, of course, so I may as well enjoy the thrill of it as long as I don't buy it.

Call me a thief and a hypocrite, but anyway it's just for my own pleasure.

The reason all the pre-CBAT stuff hasn't been stopped from being sold worldwide is, as far as I know, that unfortunately our boys don't control those masters, and those who do are strictly business people. Simple as that.

When it comes to the '74 show, it's different. They have been repetedly asked for permission, offered royalities etc., but have resisted persistently. So the reason the show hasen't been largely distributed in public until now, is of course that it IS in fact illegal, and that anyone wanting to do so would need D&W's written consent to do it.

Some Butch Patric wrote here a couple of days ago that it's all taken care of, that D&W has actually given their written consent, and that they get royalties...
With all respect (or maybe not so), I must say the chance they ever gave their consent is like me eating my fez, which i will do if they ever confirm that they have allowed this to happen.

As The Dean so wisely pointed out:
<<Do you think this is all about money?>>

It's not, of course. The worn out old sound from the worn out old analog tape is not something that D&W would ever try or want to profit from. The only thing I can imagine they would ever dream about doing with that tape, is putting it into their secure vault, or even ritually euthanize it in the the backyard by next full moon. (A modest, sober ritual of course, but what must be done must be done.)

So, until my fez is eventually being prepared for me in the kitchen, I must assume that the '74 show is still as illegitimate as it ever was, and that all attempts of trying to trick us into believing the opposite are BS.

I advice you all to give it a listen, because it's really a helluva show, but no one should pay for the mp3 or flac version until Jazzassin Eats His Fez. It's streamed for free at Wolfgang's Vault, and besides, basically everything that you can hear or see on your computer can also be saved - free of charge.
If you don't know how to do it, do a Google search for the proper free software.
Or ask another fan for it privately. I'm sure you'll find a way.

The stream is low bitrate mp3, but higher bitrate or lossless flac won't add much to the listening experience. Soundwise this is the "crap in = crap out" principle. The source is bad. Not worse than many othe bootlegs, but still.

This way you can both obtain the show AND blow the illegit profit of those who has arranged the unroyal scam. Just sayin'. ;o)

@ Butch P / Mind Your Ps & Qs:

Why don't you do like Hoops asked: Show us some proof of the existence of the contract containing the written consent from Donald Fagen and Walter Becker?
I'm sure you'd enjoy a slideshow or video of me eating my fez!!

There is of course a hypothetical possibility that some attorneys has finally found a way to define the original tape and/or it's content as the legal property of someone other than Don & Walt, so that our boys has no other choice than to take the fees they're eventally offered and shut up, but that's not what I'd call "consent"... It's more like "brute force". In that case I'll eat the tazzel of my fez only. But I need proof.

@ You Zombies: The difference between AiA and Seattle '74 is the sound quality, and the fact that the two recordings are documentations of two different eras in the history of SD. Can't be compared. Other than that, I agree it's a killer show.
Licencing to rap groups for the use of some musical elements in a totally different context has NOTHING to do with this.

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 18:49:41 ET
Posted by: You Zombies, Be Born Again My Friends

What is the difference between them licensing their music to be bastardized by some horrible rap group and licensing their music they recorded live in 1974?

I ran out and bought Alive In America the day it came out and when I put it on at home I felt ripped off and I bet I have listened to that CD maybe twice. I have listened to the amazing Seattle 1974 show 3 times now since I downloaded it and paid for it. I got my money�s worth and then some. I can�t say that about Alive And America.

The Seattle 1974 shows buries Alive In America. I don�t think anyone here will dispute that.

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 18:44:32 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, East St Louis toodling to the Big Apple

Young Wu, that's as it should be for a show focused on the first 3 albums. So a perfect combo of shows this tour would have an Aja show combined with the Dawn show and/or the Rarities show unless you could afford to go to all the special album shows.

Anyone give me an idea of how much cab fare it takes to go from the Penn Station to the Beacon? I am going to be at the mercy of public transp---makes me nervous.

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 18:05:51 ET
Posted by: Mind Your Ps & Qs,

"if you must have this, please obtain it without paying for it."

Exactly because they get NOTHING from the various demo comps out there!

BUT The Vault pays fees to ALL of the artists.

So don't pay for the newly remastered 1974 Seattle show if you can, but you will be cheating them out of money.

Not that they need any more money for sure, but personally that doesn't sit well with me if they don't get a piece.

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 16:28:49 ET
Posted by: My, P

That should be *pre* CBAT.

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 16:28:04 ET
Posted by: My, P

"If they were unhappy we surely would have heard from the official camp by now."

The last thing they would do is make an official statement about an unofficial release. Well, they did about the CBAT stuff, and the unspoken message was "if you must have this, please obtain it without paying for it."

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 15:59:50 ET
Posted by: Judicial Coleslaw,

Hey I thought Hoops said that if you wanted to post here as the Truth you had to be able to back up the claims with facts? I see no offical announcement from the Steely Dan camp.

Fagen & Becker are some very funny & snarky dudes, if they were not happy with the release of the 1974 Seattle show don't you think they would have released an official announcement by now slamming it? Or at least a Lexi Says pronouncement?

If they were unhappy we surely would have heard from the official camp by now.

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 15:59:00 ET
Posted by: steelyfez, CT-NYC

Hope the crowd is into it tonight.
People around me usually get annoyed at me for cheering like I do.
Up in Danbury they wanted to kick me out.
Hey I'm into it what can I say.
12th row tonight to the left.
Can't wait. Perhaps I will tone it down a notch.

I love this band!!

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 15:11:49 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

Wow, I just realized that only one song was played from Aja at the Dawn of the Dead show. That's gotta be one of the first times Aja got such little love, right?

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 14:02:40 ET
Posted by: The Truth, as close as you can get

Fagen and Becker gave permission to anyone for anything re: the 1974 tape.?

Not so.
Not so.
Not so.

In fact, permission was clearly and explicitly denied. More than once.

It doesn't matter how verbose and definite the lies are.

Not so.
Not so.
Not so.

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 12:35:18 ET
Posted by: hoops, nyc


I've discussed this a lot...I don't see where at that it says it's officially released. All our other rules aside, it all comes down to respectfully defering to our favorite Duo, the source of it all. They don't contact us or tell us what to say, but so far we don't see an endorsement at their site and we respect that until they do.


Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 11:33:44 ET
Posted by: LB, I

In Bethlehem, I saw Yahel bolt out of there right after his set to go check out some of the other acts playing the festival. Who could blame him after so many SD shows.

Would be nice to hear that DF used him on his upcoming CD. Any idea?

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 10:38:59 ET

I like and respect Monseur Yahel, but there were maybe 5 people
at the tower show I went to (friday) in there seats for there set
and the minute the lights dimmed the place was full, for christ
sakes dump them for the legendary Beacon run and play a couple
of extra songs!!!ps: somebody here mentioned the crowd being
subdued??? w.t.f. make some fuckin noise NEW YORK (AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIMES OF COURSE)I ran into several alabamans at the psu vs alabama
game that just saw them in BAMA and said the crowd was deafening
and our boys(the band) luved it!!!!!!!!!!DONE BABBLING

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 10:26:46 ET

The main thing Dylan and Steely Dan have in common is there the 2 best eva!!!!!!!!!!!ps:I hate to blow myself, but I told
all several weeks ago Pearl of the Quarter was coming our way!!

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 04:24:36 ET
Posted by: Another, scurvy brother

Rarities top five:

Deja Vu (Uptown Anthem) (Walter sings, obvs)
Eye Know
The Man Don't Give a Fuck
Gas Drawlz (Walter on bass)
The Fez (Donald sings)

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 03:05:13 ET
Posted by: Tristan Gustave Fabriani III, Esq., CEO & El Supremo, Pretzel Logic & Analysis, Inc., San Francisco, California

Greetings, Danfans,

It has been well-nigh unto a decade since my distinguished pen has, with all magnanimity, deigned to grace the pages of The Bluebook with innumerable and weighty insights and even prophetic utterance. Those of The Loyal Fandom that were singularly privileged nay, rather, blessed to have read my scholarly and august missives concerning the matchless line-up of the Dan in the 1974 Pretzel Logic Tour (Fagen, Becker, Baxter, Dias, Hodder, Porcaro, Jones, McDonald) and the incendiary manner in which that eight-piece served up the tunes from the first three albums will find the following announcement of the greatest possible moment, and, indeed, delight:

The July 1, 1974 concert of Steely Dan live at the Paramount Theater has now been OFFICIALLY RELEASED and is available for listening and even downloading (MP3 or FLAC) at . It would appear that the inimitable Stuart Dinky Dawson has, at last, managed to persuade The Two Powers That Be to authorize its release to the public; and now The Loyal Fandom at long, long, long last gets to hear what the original Dan at the height of its powers delivered live in concert back in the halcyon day.

THIS is how the songs from the first three albums should be performed in a live setting. The following questions once posed will serve also as their own answer. When's the last time y'all heard in any of the modern tours as soaring a guitar solo on The Boston Rag as is in evidence on this manifestly blazing outing by the Skunk? Were the frets fried off their respective fret boards after Baxter and Dias soloed on Bodhisattva-- a tune which also happily does not substitute horns that with all futility purport to suffice for a certain rolicking boogie guitar lick and was the stage itself "set own fiyah" when the band brought this opening tune to its stunning crescendo conclusion? Could the laid back, sadly re-chorded, and in some ways "smooth jazz" modern live version of Do It Again, which perplexingly enough even omits the signature Fagen keyboard solo, remotely compare with this propulsive version with its blistering percussion coda at the end? Has anyone ever heard such a swinging version of Brooklyn as what the Dan delivers in this concert with soulful Royce Jones ebullient lead vocals backed by Michael McDonald and punctuated throughout by Skunk's melodious pedal steel? Anyone ever heard King of the World live even once since '74? And while the live version of Pretzel Logic at the Record Plant on 3/20/74 ranks as the single most intense and stinging version of this tune ever delivered, doesn't this one rank near to it, and how 'bout them lead vocals shared by Fagen, Jones and McDonald? Who wouldn't welcome a live version of Rikki that's actually recognizable and faithful to the original version in tempo and guitar solo? And lastly, is Reelin' ever reelin' without two guitars actually playing the initial solo notes? I could certainly say more...

I never thought this day would arrive, and yet, 37 years later, we get to savor what the Dan's soundman and some very select Seattle Danfans got to hear (including, incidentally, the Eagles, who were also in the audience that evening, observing Dinky turning up the Dan as the neighbors were listening), just days before this unforgettable line-up saw the sun set on its touring days.


And may the Good Lord one day grant Dinky Dawson and the staff the Kingdom of Heaven.

With profound and characteristic humility,

Tristan Gustave Fabriani III, Esq.
CEO & EL Supremo
Pretzel Logic & Analysis, Inc.
San Francisco, California

Date: Fri, September 16, 2011, 01:43:56 ET
Posted by: mike_the _wu, Jersey

Beacon Curfew 11pm

I saw Ratdog there and they played 3 hours, their solution was to start at 8pm and not have an opening act, that way they could do their whole setlist. (This is not rocket science)

At the Tower Theatre, the crowd waited for Sam Yahel to leave the stage before the seats filled up

Just an opinion, but for special shows like this how many of you watched Sam Yahel and why are they there

The criticism of me may start

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 23:54:39 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Gripe, Orchestra Section - Rarities, NJ

All will be revealed in just 2 nights.

There's been much conjecture here on this Nimoy Pointy-Ear Wearing group of Simpsons' Comic Book Store Guy Steely Dan Fan Blue Website type thing-a-ma-jiggy.

We should all be glad that Your Gold Teeth, Pearl and Bear will probably be played. And I still believe that we'll hear and see some great surprises on Saturday.

I've seen this group on every tour since 1993, except 2008 when my wallet couldn't open.

1993-Greek Theatre, LA
1994-Irvine (one of my faves)
1995-Roseland NYC
1996-Irvine and Hollywood Bowl
2000-Walking Distance, Jones Beach and Great Woods, MA
2003-Jones Beach and Roseland NYC
2006-Jones Beach
2007-Mohegan Sun, CT
2009-Boston Request Night and Beacon Royal Scam

All shows were momentous occasions for me.

For this Saturday's show - among the more realistic rarities I hope we get to see:

Haitian Divorce w/ Donald singing
My Rival
Gaucho w/ Donald singing
Here At The Western World
Dr. Wu

Pie in the Sky Darkhorses:

Second Arrangement
Kulee Baba
Any World
Shakedown Street
Perhaps a cover of a Traffic song...


Beast Out.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 23:49:56 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, getting amped

Ok, those going to Rarities night, what are your top 5 wishlist songs?

Mine (I don't need to hear the unreleased, lost or mythic, just the rarely if ever played)

Razor Boy
Doctor Wu
Any Major Dude
Everyone's Gone to the Movies
Gaucho/Chain Lightning/Pretzel Logic (any one will do)

People who saw the Dawn show should be overjoyed they got 3 of my (bigger)wishlist rarities with Pearl, Boston Rag and Night by Night.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 23:44:55 ET
Posted by: SD photo,

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 23:43:58 ET
Posted by: CJB, Leavin' on a jet plane

Off to catch a plane from Vancouver to Calgary, to Newark, to the Beacon on Saturday. Hope to meet some of you internets faces for pre-show drink.

"Sharing the things we love, with those of our kind."

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 23:36:39 ET
Posted by: Anon, annoying

<<<<Been a while. Got a quick few so I will make this quick. What were y'all smoking last night? Steely da you think Pearl of the 25 was tight? The only thing tight was donald he looked and sounded liked he was going to crap his pants the whole way through it. You missed it Steely da should of come to the quarter a few years ago and hera the man do it proper. Was wondering about this bootleg causing all of this clammering from the revenue man. Just kicked my ass when I listened to it not the same MP3 but dipped in honey by some outfit. Blew last nights beacon show out of the water. But its all good Steely Dan took my money but new york took my heart much love new york i'll be back>>>

Why don't you just stay away? And forever, I might add.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 23:36:36 ET
Posted by: Anon, annoying

<<<<Been a while. Got a quick few so I will make this quick. What were y'all smoking last night? Steely da you think Pearl of the 25 was tight? The only thing tight was donald he looked and sounded liked he was going to crap his pants the whole way through it. You missed it Steely da should of come to the quarter a few years ago and hera the man do it proper. Was wondering about this bootleg causing all of this clammering from the revenue man. Just kicked my ass when I listened to it not the same MP3 but dipped in honey by some outfit. Blew last nights beacon show out of the water. But its all good Steely Dan took my money but new york took my heart much love new york i'll be back>>>

Why don't you just stay away? And forever, I might add.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 23:17:05 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den, raring to go

HouDanFan, dude, if you aren't familiar with Ambrosia, probably best not to comment. If you are only familiar with their top 40 ballad hits, I would suggest you check out their first 2 albums. Your jaw might drop at what you hear.

JazzAssassin, yep forgot to mention Chicago, and that is an obvious choice with the horns and jazz influences, but live they were always much looser and more "rocking" and really didn't come off as "pristine" sounding as Steely Dan or Supertramp. Ambrosia didn't use brass much of course, and they weren't jazzy, but they had a similar eclectic art pop vibe that is hard to pinpoint which they seem to share with SD. Too bad they didn't pursue that route more.

Hard to believe there are still prime center seats for Rarities night, damn.

If these shows do in fact have a curfew, I would hope that SD either
1) asks for an extension---who wants to be rushed through Rarities night which many people like me are flying in specifically to see or
2) starts earlier. Why push it?

Just got my Perfection in Performance DVD yesterday---nice---NTSC and region free and pretty darn good sound and video.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 23:07:13 ET
Posted by: back in the quarter and work in a few hours, n'leans

Been a while. Got a quick few so I will make this quick. What were y'all smoking last night? Steely da you think Pearl of the 25 was tight? The only thing tight was donald he looked and sounded liked he was going to crap his pants the whole way through it. You missed it Steely da should of come to the quarter a few years ago and hera the man do it proper. Was wondering about this bootleg causing all of this clammering from the revenue man. Just kicked my ass when I listened to it not the same MP3 but dipped in honey by some outfit. Blew last nights beacon show out of the water. But its all good Steely Dan took my money but new york took my heart much love new york i'll be back

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 22:35:27 ET
Posted by: Rockaway Beach, NYC

Does anyone have the list of tunes for the Raraties "B" side show?
I will be there on Saturday 9/17.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 21:42:19 ET
Posted by: angel, NYC Woot!

Mr. LaPage: Yes on the Ambrosia - Steely Dan link. They also shared vocalists, Royce Jones and Michael McDonald (at least for 1 song). Are they in the same league with Steely Dan, no, but I do enjoy their music and have seen them in concert twice.

It was great (no let me improve on that)
It was absolutely astounding to me that they pulled out Pearl on the Quarter. The song was played only once, when they were at Jazz Fest a few years ago.

They did stick with what they said they were going to do last night and that bodes well for Saturday. See many of you there. :-)

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 21:22:53 ET
Posted by: Moray eel, N

LaPage: Agree about Ambrosia.


Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 20:43:01 ET
Posted by: hmmm, cheap

A second check shows great loge seats for $59 (75 w/fees) are also available.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 20:36:21 ET
Posted by: FYI, $$$

A quick check of Ticketmaster shows a single seat available for Sats rarities show in the center orchestra, Row CC (3rd row); a pair is available right benind that, 4th row dead center. Face = $243- per. They're there if you want 'em.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 20:30:49 ET
Posted by: DC David, still here

TommyT, thanks for what you added. May I now add another piece of the union/time puzzle? There are also rules that a certain number of NY workers (union a) be hired, and do certain work.. So if Steely Dan has a crew of let's say 10 who normally set up change and break down the stage, they will now have 20, not be able to do all the work themselves, but point to a union guy and say "unplug that, move this". This means set chage between Yahel and SD will take much LONGER. I support unions but this is the sort of Sopranos-type thng that gives them bad press.

Also, I think Yahel may be playing more than 30 mintes, maybe because of the special guest situation.

I have read here about very long band introductions? Last night Walt just marched thru them, no jokes or stories.

So time is on everyone's mind at the Beacon apparently.

Will report from Boston, I hope!

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 20:01:43 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH

Concerning last night's show and the 2 songs that were supposedly on the set list and were not played. An earlier post confirms that the show ended at 11:00 pm...that is not an accident. DC David is correct...the crew at the Beacon is definitely union and there was a curfew. The bands typically get a few minutes grace period but there are strict union guidelines and in this case an 11:00 curfew. I would be surprised if any of the Beacon shows run much past 11:00 pm...the band can pay a fine, but it is not worth the hassle. If the band started a little earlier then maybe those 2 songs get played.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 19:06:41 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, a couple more things

When it comes to the jazz factor, it would be unfair to just focus on the swing of things, we must also take in consideration their fantastic harmonic/chord abilities.
And the soul influence is just as important.

Goodnight, it's 01:08 in Norway.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 18:55:48 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Re: '70s bands

Mr. LaPage,

I do agree with most of your arguments regarding formal similarities with the bands you mentioned (varied use of instruments and sonic delights, and a very keen attention to detail, song craftsmanship and audio qualities), and I would like to add 10CC to the list of bands with those formal qualities.
They're all, like Steely Dan, what you could call "advanced" pop bands.

But the others, and most other bands in that category, lacks the jazz factor that is so important with SD. (It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing, etc etc.)
That said, their jazz factor became more developed over time, and wasn't really that evident on CBAT. Love the direction they chose, though.

Then there's a lot of great bands with a huge jazz factor, a horn section etc. like Chicago, BS&T, or all the fusion artists, but none of them sounds the least like Steely Dan to me, though I like a lot of that music as well.

And finally, we have all the great rock poets with His Bobness Mr. Zimmerman up front, but the differences between him and SD is far more obvious than the similarities.

All'n all I can't think of any band or artist whatsoever that really is in their class. They have it all, and they do it like nobody else.
And an important factor is the humor in their lyrical universe. Nothing like it.
Their songs are all of a supernatural, unearthly kind, and I guess that's why we're all here.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 18:50:40 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

Mr. LaPage,

Will have to respectfully disagree with you on Ambrosia. I always thought of them as cheesy pop band but then I never did dig deep into their music. Maybe Supertramp more so, but to be honest I've never heard anyone that sounds like Steely Dan. Maybe some songs but not overall. It's a good question though and one I've thought of in the past as well.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 17:56:30 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, looking for some nice "rare" cuts of meat this weekend

Yes, Steely Dan is quite unique and no one has ever really cloned what they do. But what 70s rock groups are most similar to Steely Dan?----my choices, Supertramp and Ambrosia. Supertramp for a lot of obvious reasons, but coming from an English perspective. Ambrosia (first 3 albums) because of their eclectic and progressive yet pop sensibilities, great songwriting, varied use of instruments and sonic delights, and a very keen attention to detail, song craftsmanship and audio qualities (also a Supertramp hallmark). What say ye? Discuss.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 17:33:49 ET
Posted by: DC David, The great non state of DC

was Dawn night supposed to be Rarities too? Comments here seem to ignore songs that are from the first 3 but that have been played before. I have only been to 2 previous concerts some years ago. Last night I went to hear early Dan plus hits as advertised and that's pretty much what I got. of course I would have liked to hear all my favorites and swapped some of the songs they chose. But I could care less if one of their 'first 3' songs has been heard before by the very harsh people on this board. I haven't heard them before. Whatever.

I came here to complain about the security attitude, and I see others agree with me: it was over the top and affected the mood in our section (101 on the floor). More common sense is needed by the management or whoever.

Unions i ny and the promoter crew (also run MSG) have strict union rules that limit how long, when, and so on, with Mob like penalties for crossing them. I think Don and Walt may have been up agains a curfew .

Anyway, I more than enjoyed the concert, and the musicianship, which was so perfect, and I was around people that seemed happy, I didn't hear a grumble when some song previously heard started up. Some songs people here are calling bad because they have heard them before, were the ones that brought tears to my eyes.

I am now trying to make a Boston show. Sorry, but I hope the people here who complain about Don and Walt's shows stay home or at least don't sit near me. To each his own.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 16:20:50 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, raring to go for Rarities night....

Loge equal to about Row M, sweet, that is about what I figured. Best thing is Row A, no heads in front of me. Perfect for pics (wink). Just kidding.....kind of....

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 15:55:50 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Manhattan

Mr. LaPage,

I believe that the front wall of the loge is just about over Row M of the orchestra section. Row T, where we are, is under the loge by maybe 5 or 6 rows.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 15:55:22 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Manhattan

Mr. LaPage,

I believe that the front wall of the loge is just about over Row M of the orchestra section. Row T, where we are, is under the loge by maybe 5 or 6 rows.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 15:19:27 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

Security was crazy at the Minnesota State Fair gig. I was 40 yards away in the grandstand and security was telling people above my row to quit taking pictures.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 15:18:18 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 14:54:46 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

Hope you folks in NYC enjoy the shows at the Beacon. It is a bummer that security takes the fun out of live shows anymore. It's almost to the point that bands need to re-think what they are instructing them.

At some point, nobody will want to go to live shows anymore. We're paying out the nose for these shows and it's not like we're going to profit from little keepsake photos and vid clips. Get real.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 14:38:04 ET
Posted by: hoops, in chicago, getting ready for nyc

Hey gang,

Gus Winterbottom had a really swell banner made up for the NYC Danfests. Here it is on now you know what to look for. On behalf of the Greater (and lesser) Dandom, Thanks, Gus! And thanks to Bruce Cameron in Christchurch, New Zealand who came up with the original design concept.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 13:56:50 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den, but getting ready for the Beacon

Wow, Pearl of the Quarter, Night by Night and Boston Rag. Sweet. I hope that means they will do at least 2 of those 3 on Rarities night---really want to hear Pearl of course and Boston Rag would be sweet. Why drop Pretzel Logic and Any Major Dude though?---those songs would have made an A- show an A from a setlist perspective.

No Razor Boy. Means 1) they are saving that one for Rarities night
or 2) they won't be doing it all. Really want to hear Razor Boy.

Anyone who knows the Beacon, I have row A Loge, dead center. How close is the front of the loge to the stage? or what row on the orchestra does row A loge hang over? I can't get a good idea from the website pictures.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 12:33:33 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneaopolis


"Pearl of a Quarter was especially tight last night."

As compared to what other night? It was the first time ever as far as I know... and I am so jealous. Very nice - hope the unplayed songs keep coming this weekend. Good luck to the lucky few in attendance.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 12:20:20 ET
Posted by: My Thoughts...,

About last night's show:

1. Although I thought the band was not as tight during some of the less commonly (if ever) played songs, it was nonetheless absolutely great hearing them.
2. I thought Donald's voice was a little strained but that might have been because of where I was sitting (orchestra left)
3. The crowd was weird; stangely subdued I thought. Very few people on their feet, at least in the orchestra and the security extremely annoying, not letting anyone take pictures or dance, even in the aisles. Didn't have to ask anyone to stop talking through the show, whice was great.

Not the best show I've seen but certainly worth seeing, in my opinion.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 12:12:04 ET
Posted by: Steelydad, NYC

Pearl of a Quarter was especially tight last night. DF's voice was sounding stronger than when I saw him on his solo tour last year. Beacon is a great venue to see them. Band was rock solid. The girls were dead on as usual. I am still bummed that Carolyn L. got

Question. What tunes do you all expect to be played on B-Sides and Rarities that I may not have heard on CBaT, PL, KL, etc.?

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 11:53:00 ET
Posted by: MN, NC

How in god's name can anyone be disappointed with last night's setlist??? I'm heading up to NYC and can't freaking wait for Saturday nite!

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 11:40:10 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

@BUMMED-Sounds like a bit of sour grapes down there!

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 11:07:01 ET
Posted by: Mo, town

You talking about Skip Gilderdleeve? From Detroit? That guy is the biggest f*&king asshole alive. Glad SD canned him.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 11:01:41 ET
Posted by: Bummed, in Houston

What a bummer last night's set list was! Rarities Night is gonna SUCK!!!!

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 10:54:17 ET
Posted by: fanodan, pa

For a minute, Boston in NYC

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 09:53:57 ET
Posted by: You, Here

Steely Dan security is a fraud. Gilderdleeve isn't with SD on this tour.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 09:49:54 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

Hey SD Security, I would like to pop you over the head with my camcorder! Nothing wrong with a set list or a photo shot here and there. Relax and put that baton back on your belt.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 08:52:27 ET
Posted by: SD Security, NY

Who gave out the set list? Everyone is under strict orders not to give it out for exactly this reason. Gildersleeve is going to kick his ass.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 08:28:21 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, at work

FYI, We'll be there. Only concern is at that time of year Norfolk can get a lot of snow. Thank goodness for 4 wheel drive. See you all Saturday night.

01/27/12 � The Jon Herington Band � 08:00 PM Infinity Hall Norfolk, CT
On Sale September 29th

Jon Herington is the veteran touring and recording guitarist for Steely Dan, a position he continues to hold after 11 years.

The Jon Herington Band is currently the hard-hitting, stripped-down guitar, bass, drums power trio version of the band which is specifically designed for the club and theatre concert scene, with a blues/rock/pop vibe and an emphasis on the songs and the guitar playing. There is plenty of killer guitar for fans of Jon's playing, and the lyrics are often funny in addition to being clever and compelling. Great support is supplied by a no-nonsense, take-care-of-business band featuring Dennis Espantman on bass and Frank Pagano on drums. All three band members sing, providing a much bigger sound than a typical trio.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 06:48:20 ET
Posted by: The 1974, concert has

been out there for a while.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 06:08:38 ET
Posted by: old school 'Danner, East StLois

Any one else find it ironic that we are quibbling over a Steely Dan show when they were in their prime at the same time they are playing some historic concerts here in 2011...

I have mixed feeling about bootlegs....but have always felt that there should have been a legitimate 1975 live album on they had planned...

in my opinion Steely Dan bootlegs are quite interestings...and I think they have surfaced from various people for various reasons....
1980's....the Katy Lied sessions emerge on vinyl...possible source: a disgruntled engineer
circa 1990- the first Gaucho demos emerge...possible from Roger Nichols (?) or another engineer...1990's- I think Running Child may have been planned for the Citzen box set as it supposedly emerged on an acetate
2002- the better Gaucho/Aja demos emerge...probably from the Nichols camp

i always thought the idea that Becker lost the 1970s tapes as not real. possibly done to downplay hopes of anything appearing on Citizen..

now th 1974 concert...perhaps from Dawson et al...but how do we know this???
anyway..I realy hope there is aDVD for 2011 to recap all of these new versions

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 02:24:11 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Manhattan


I will try to find the answer later this week. I don't see any reason for a curfew at the Beacon either, but I am fairly ignorant in this area.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 01:58:26 ET
Posted by: mike_the _wu, Jersey

Hey Gus, why were the songs dropped?. the Beacon has no 11pm curfew that I am aware of, strange

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 01:52:39 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Manhattan!

Dawn of the Dan Night at the Beacon, 14 Sept 2011
Setlist and brief report

Intro: Dizzy's Bidness ~8:58 PM

Your Gold Teeth
Black Friday
Hey 19
Parker's Band
Time Out Of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Boston Rag
Do It Again
Pearl Of The Quarter
Papa Don't Mess/Band Intros
Dirty Work
Night By Night
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years

Encore: Kid Charlemagne
Outro: Untouchables Theme ~11:00 PM

On tonight's setlist but not played:
Any Major Dude (was before Show Biz Kids)
Pretzel Logic (was before Peg)

Tonight was a fine start to the Beacon series, IMHO. This was my first show there and from where we sat (near the soundboard, but house right and under the lower balcony by a few rows) I thought the sound was good. The crowd was pretty energetic, particularly for Rikki and MOS (crowd sing-alongs) and Bodhisattva (major standing ovation).

Walter's guitar work on both Rikki and TOOM was outstanding, as it was later when he and Jon trades solos on Boston Rag. Walter spent a lot of time with a red-bodied guitar I do not recall seeing before. Possibly this is the instrument discussed a few weeks ago by another poster. The rest of the band was as tight as ever, i.e., exceptional. Completely unexpected was Pearl Of The Quarter; I have to confess that one brought a tear to my eye. While I have to admit to some disappointment about the songs dropped from the setlist, I was still very glad to be in the house tonight.

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 01:04:10 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

All this Beacon talk, is pumping me up big time for NYC.Been planning this weekend for almost 2 years! Can't wait for the weekend. Looking forward to meeting some Bluebookers at the Alehouse Fri and Sat. Also my fellow Canadian Danfans, seems like a good number of us are in for some shows,eh!

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 00:58:04 ET
Posted by: 5 From CBT,

Great 13 song set list tonight!

Bohisattva - Countdown
The Boston Rag - Countdown
Do It Again - Can't Buy
Brooklyn - Can't Buy
King of The World - Countdown
Rikki - PL
Pretzel Logic -PL
My Old School - Countdown
Dirty Work - Can't Buy
Your Gold Teeth II - Katy Lied
Reelin In The Years - Cant' Buy
Show Biz Kids - Countdown
This All Too Mobile Home - Unreleased With Amazing Walter Becker On Bass - What a killer night he had tonight!!!!!

Oh wait this is the magnificent Seattle 1974 July 1 show I was listening to tonight.

37 years ago. Come to think of it, a much better bargain.

Tickets were $7

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 00:50:55 ET
Posted by: mike_the _wu, Jersey

I feel much better now, 275+ bucks a ticket for that?

The Tower shows were tremendous and longer, so I am a happy camper

Personally that looks like the Tower setlists with some changes, hmmmm

Just my opinion, feel free to jump in

Date: Thurs, September 15, 2011, 00:02:23 ET
Posted by: El Sup, NY via Louisville,KY

They also played Black Friday and Parker's Band. Of the 18 songs played (not including they intro, outro and band introductions) 12 were from the 1st 3 albums:
CBAT - 3 (do it again, dirty work and reelin')
CTE - 6 -A RECORD!- (bodhi, boston rag, gold teeth, show biz kids, my old school and pearl)
PL - 3 (rikki, night by night, parker's band)

The rest were: black Friday, kid c, peg, hey 19, time out of mind and godwhacker

That's 2/3 dawn of the dan material and that is more than I thought they would play. I have high hopes for rarities night.

A better review later,

El Sup

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 23:42:37 ET
Posted by: Moray eel, In

Reelin' was played.

Honestly, possibly my favorite SD show. Walter's never played better. Jon also had a great night. Thank you to the background singers. They sounded extra good tonight. Thanks Carolyn for wearing that top cut down to your belly bottom. It made the show even more entertaining. As Carolyn left the stage, she appeared to be blowing kisses to the crowd, but I'm 100% convinced to she intended those only for me.

Pearl of the Quarter sounded fantastic and Donald had a big smile on his face after it was over... and then he let out a big sigh of relief. The whole band seemed to be "on" tonight.


Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 23:36:45 ET
Posted by: That's not it!, still...really?

OK-saw the Reelin' add. But still...

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 23:35:02 ET
Posted by: That's it?, Really?

Thanks to the poster. No Reelin? No Pretzel? No Kings/Kings of the World, Throw Back the Little Ones? Really short set. Sure songs weren't left off of tweet? Was Aja not played after or before YGT?
No Brooklyn? Any Major Dude? Monkey??? Wow.

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 23:34:34 ET
Posted by: shocked the monkey tonight,

Correction 17 show How do you play Peeeeeeeg! Time Out Of Mind, Godwacker and not Pretzel Logic on Dawn of the Dan night?!
Dawn of the Dead?

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 23:21:37 ET
Posted by: shocked,

Wow ONLY 16 fricken tunes. Was that a casino show? Shure hope Pearl swallowed.

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 23:20:12 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

That's about par for the course. Not a great setlist by any means, but not terrible. Pearl of the Quarter is a great fucking pick.

I gotta do this right so I don't get in trouble...

Thanks a lot to whoever was tweeting the setlist, but there's no way they didn't play Reelin' in the Years tonight, right? I'm assuming it's just a miss?

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 23:17:39 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

I like the set list, but those in attendance may not be happy if the song total is correct. A few less songs than normal...but Pearl may make up for it.

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 23:17:34 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

I like the set list, but those in attendance may not be happy if the song total is correct. A few less songs than normal...but Pearl may make up for it.

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 22:23:13 ET
Posted by: Greg M, white plains


Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 22:22:35 ET
Posted by: Steve, Cleveland Heights

The set list above looks pretty cool!

Psyched about Pearl of the Quarter!

Thanks to the tweet mistress.

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 22:07:54 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

It says right there on the Steely Dan website that every single Beacon show will include the night's theme albums/songs "plus additional selected favorites and hits." There is no reason anybody should be up in arms for feeling like they've been lied to the second something outside the first three albums gets played tonight. They warned you up front! You can be disappointed in the set list, but you have no right to act like you were lied to.

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 21:56:09 ET
Posted by: luke, nj

It looks like "You Got The Bear" is going to be the one and ONLY "Raritie" played on Saturday. That figures.

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 21:47:43 ET
Posted by: lol,

You wanna know what gives Carl? Their money!


Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 21:42:18 ET
Posted by: An Old Friend, The X-Roads

And now they're playing "Time Out of Mind"...

It appears that we've been had yet again. So disappointing. I'm going to "Rarities" night on Saturday and now know for sure what I've feared all along--if something sounds too good to be true...

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 21:35:46 ET
Posted by: Carl, Hinktown

My friend at the show just text-ed me that they were playing Hey 19. I thought tonight was "Dawn Of The Dan"??? What gives??

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 19:45:57 ET
Posted by: El Sup, NY via Louisville,KY

Lurking here at the Beacon getting ready for the show. Sporting a University of Kentucky long sleeve shirt. Haven't seen anyone that I know yet. I'll try to get the setlist up afterward.

Take care,

El Sup

(Sizzling like an isotope)

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 18:33:43 ET
Posted by: hutch, (repost after accidental delete)

Look out for pro video people working the Beacon shows. It's an outside chance but who knows? There's been so much talk on here about an SD concert DVD and why one hasn't been done by now. This would be an optimum time to do it. Lots of material being played the next few days. And editing from different nights would be easy.

I hope everyone has a great time. I'll be there in spirit for sure.

Waiting for the tweets!

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 17:40:49 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Per the request of our host, I refrain from too much comment here, except to say:

Do you think it is ONLY about money?

I apologize to Hoops for even this much of a comment.

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 17:40:45 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Butch Patrick--

If you are legit then please email me, the webmaster, privately at hoops AT dandom DOT com with an actual email address. Heck, I'll even give you my phone if you email me. If you are so legit than why no email or legit identity?

This 74 show thing is very confusing since all of the releases Steely Dan sanctions --legally or karmicaly in my book -- are promoted at their website. I don't see the 1974 show mentioned at

Look, I don't get paid, but the fact that the site offering the show doesn't feature an endorsement by Walter and/or Donald doesn't make me feel good--and while Wolfgang folks are making money, I've lost 4-5 hours of my time on this. I sure the hell won't be paying them for a copy.

So Butch please respond privately.

Best wishes,


Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 17:34:33 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

Man, whatta lot of self-righteous bluster. Those fancy high-powered lawyers must be getting some of that $9.98 download too, eh?

Share Freely, with those of my kind? Sure. Pay $9.98 to some thin-skinned internet startup?

Thanks anyway.

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 16:50:00 ET
Posted by: Butch Patrick, Feeding Fang

So many LIES around here lately. Donald Fagen & Walter Becker are being compensated per ALL music rights laws and NO live material can be purchased WITHOUT the artists written consent. We use the same lawyers & bean counters as such presigious companies as YouTube, Rhapsody, Muzak, The Orchard, INgrooves, Thumbplay, Guvera, Dada and CD Baby.

BTW The 1974 Seattle show is currently the number one download in the world! Congratulations to Walter Becker & Donald Fagen!

The site's Vault Taps RightsFlow for Mechanical Licensing and Administration Service

NEW YORK, NY March 3, 2011 RightsFlow, a leading licensing and royalty service provider, announced an agreement today with xxxx, the online destination for live music. The deal delivers expedited licensing, administration, and payment support for .... (home to the world�s largest collection of live music audio, video and merchandise) and Daytrotter (the leading site for unique live performances from emerging bands). The deal provides mechanical licensing, accounting and payment services for digital download and interactive streaming usage on both web properties.

Vault President Eric Johnson commented, "As our company grows, we are pleased to partner with RightsFlow. They were the clear choice as we were looking to outsource the complex processes of mechanical licensing and related administrative tasks previously managed internally."

Added Patrick Sullivan, RightsFlow's President and CEO, "As musicians and music fans, we�re extremely excited to be working with Vault and Daytrotter, two favorite web destinations for live music. We�re thrilled to be providing back-office licensing for these incredible repositories of culture, stories, and songs."

RightsFlow is one of the leading experts in mechanical licensing, simplifying how rights holders get paid. As new methods of consuming music have emerged the company has quickly become a pioneer in solving the complex issues of copyright compliance with service offerings that are widely being adopted by labels, artists and global businesses.

RightsFlow is a leading technology-enabled provider of mechanical licensing and royalty payment services for artists, record companies, distributors, and online music companies. Our technology powers rapid song identification and provides an unprecedented level of transparency for both licensees and licensors. RightsFlow specializes in obtaining bulk physical, DPD, and ringtone licenses including streaming, tethered, and limited download rights. Our proprietary "FLOW" licensing technology and 23 million song database allow us to serve over 16,000 clients obtaining licenses from publishers and songwriters all over the world � including major, independent and artist controlled works.

RightsFlow also powers Limelight (, its online mechanical licensing utility providing the simplest way for musicians, bands, choirs and labels to clear any cover song.

Clients include YouTube, Rhapsody, Muzak, The Orchard, INgrooves, Thumbplay, Guvera, Dada Entertainment/Play.ME, Scattertunes, [PIAS], Alliance, Kontor New Media, Zynga, Beatport, Zebralution, E1 Canada, CD Baby, Disc Makers, & X5 Music Group.

RightsFlow is a member of DDEX, DiMA, NARM, NAMM, AIM, and A2IM

Have a great day and please stop the lies and enjoy the 1974 Seattle show.

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 14:53:13 ET
Posted by: beaubo, Cleveland

Thanks to my cuz in the biz at LiveNation,
snagged Orch center section Row R for 'Scam'
and Orch left center Row D for 'Request'.

Will try and zip my AMS Ale House

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 14:07:18 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, this moody bastard

I just want to say I hope every lucky bastard who's going to the Beacon and/or the corresponding danfests will have one or more great nights in NYC!

And also hoping that the setlists - especially those for tonight, the rarities night and the 21. century night - will amaze everyone, and that the only kind of "Beacon Blues" you'll get will eventually be Pretzel Logic.

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 14:00:17 ET
Posted by: Burt, F

Any speculation as to whether they play Dallas before or after Sail The Waterway tonight?

It is a question of when and not if, right?

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 13:32:16 ET
Posted by: ironwilly, Buffalo

Thanks! Gotta have a sense of humor or you are just taking up space.

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 11:02:42 ET

IronWilly for Buffalo nice too see someone can laugh at themselves,
one would think on a Steely Dan site that most peoples sense of
humor would be world class, but surprisingly there are a lot of
thin-skinned boys and girls around here!!!Lighten -up everyone!!!
I expect to see 100 post here when I get to work thursday morning!!

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 08:03:25 ET
Posted by: steelyfez, NY-CT

Looking forward to the Friday night Gaucho show. I am unable to attend the rarities night, which is the one I really wanted to go to. Oh well.

Date: Wed, September 14, 2011, 06:18:48 ET
Posted by: Bikemann, NJ

Hey Jim, I saw that you censored the name of a site that I mentioned regarding a certain show from long ago.Sorry if it got to close to the grey area but I would never have even mentioned it but I had been told for years that the site was all on the up and up. Artists permission and royalties and the like. Maybe I've made an ass of myself assuming that.

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 23:20:56 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

Yeah, I'm watching the Jackie Kennedy tapes Special on ABC right now. Even she can be heard saying that "Dinky is twisted and cannot be trusted". LOL

Heck, I didn't even know who this Dinky guy was, but that is a helluva story. I'm surprised that the Dan is not slamming him for selling unauthorized material.

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 23:11:16 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

I've only met Dinky Dawson one afternoon at Mark and Bill's Danfest of the Year, "The Boston Rag Danfest 2K," at Mansfield, MA on Saturday, July 15, 2000. All I know is that we had a great time as seemingly did everyone including Dinky. Here's a clip. They always had to be short back then due to limitations in bandwidth. Streaming video wasn't mainstream like it is today.

Here's the link to our "iDanvention" coverage:



Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 22:34:23 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Hey gang...

Could people stop posting about the '74 show for now? It's been tying me up off and on since about 9 am this morning and I don't have time to keep taking down posts--nor respond to flaming emails I have been receiving when I take them down.

Trying to get some things done so I can get to NYC this weekend.

Again, save for YouTube which has its own, widely-understood and easily-accessible system for lodging with copyright complaints, let's leave the actual how-to-get/where-to-listen to unofficial SD recordings off the blue.

If we can't do that, then it means moderate mode (updates just a couple of times a day) which really sucks at this great time.

If this 74 show ends up being official, I'm sure will add a link.

Best wishes and many thanks,


Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 21:09:14 ET
Posted by: lol, !

Lurker Ray- Did you read that below? Somebody from the SD camp wrote that. Like he/she said, DD has been trying to get permission from the boys to put that Seattle '74 show for many, many years. Apparently he just said 'Fuck them' and put it out. I also read DD book. And just like that person wrote below, the man is full of lies and BS.

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 19:24:05 ET
Posted by: make no mistake, Black not Grey

Dinky. Here we go again.

Absolute Word: : Dinky Dawson does not own the SD material he shills, has no legal claim to it whatsoever, and has been explicitly denied permission more than once to sell or profit from it.

All the more disgusting, his theft is performed "in the open", along with his jovial assurances and complicated, authentic-sounding stories about how this is all ok. They are simply inventions (and his oral histories about his employers are no more trustworthy than he). The word "scumbag' comes to mind; his lies large and small disrespect the music-lovers to whom he sells and speaks, and sends a big 'Fuck You' to the artists from whom he steals.

The last sentence is just my opinion. The rest are the facts. PS: Posted with no disrespect to this fan community, and only as an FYI for those interested.

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 19:02:37 ET
Posted by: Bikemann, NJ

The Seattle 74 show is now being offered on [*****] vaults. Its for sale to download so our boys must be getting something for it.

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 19:02:34 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Safe Travels To NYC All

Metal Leg - ISSUE 18, APRIL 1992

The Dinky Dawson Interview

Stuart (Dinky) Dawson is no stranger to live sound. During his 20+ year career he has toured as a sound engineer for many rock & roll bands such as Fleetwood Mac, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Lou Reed and Steely Dan. In this exclusive Metal Leg interview conducted with Dinky in July '91, Mr. Dawson gives us the inside scoop on life on the road with what he considers "The Best Live Band Ever," Steely Dan. Dinky pioneered several techniques such as an overhead vocal PA system separate from the stereo PAs on each side of the stage. With help from engineer Marshall Goldberg of Boston, he also devised the so-called "snake cable," which joined stage equipment to a console in the middle of the audience. Before that, engineers had only mixed sound on the side of the stage, often in a glass booth. Currently running "Dawson Sound" in the Boston area, Dinky was so highly regarded by Becker/Fagen/Katz that he acted as sound consultant on several Dan albwns after the group stopped touring.

ML: How did you get your nickname?

DD: In England there's a toy called the Dinky toy. I used to race miniature Dinky toys. I put what they call Jetex engines in 'em and raced 'em down a quarter mile stretch of concrete in a steel mill. Then I was the first person ever in our town to get a Mini Cooper S.

ML: What town is that Dinky?

DD: There's a little village called Greasborough.

ML: You know, the gentleman who started this fanzine is from Bridgwater, Somerset. And he asked me to ask you how you got your nickname. He said he thought you were English. Do you mind me asking how old you are?

DD: I'm forty-four this year.

ML: How did you actually get the job doing Steely Dan's PA?

DD: I came over here with Fleetwood Mac in '69/'70. 1 moved to the U.S. in 1970 to work with the Byrds and then designed and built the acoustic suspension P.A. in 1972. That's when I started Dawson Sound. My first tour was with the Kinks in the fall of '72. How it happened was it was a gig in Texas and Steely Dan were opening for me with the Kinks. They opened two shows for me, but what big groups used to do -- and they still do was they don't let the openers get a soundcheck or any of that shit. I particularly don't like that, so I don't care what the status of the group is or how bad they are, I always try to give 'em the time of day. So I gave them a soundcheck and got em all happening and mixed 'em in stereo and Walter and Denny Dias totally flipped.

ML: Walter lost the master tapes, right?

DD: Yeah. But you have to understand that there were some really good recordings and incredible live shows. I would say 85-90% of this band was the most ultimate live music you ever heard. It was just phenomenal. They played their ass off every time. We had audiences jump up after the first number just crying and that kind of thing.

ML: I spoke to Gary Katz a couple years ago and he had called me up asking if I had any live tapes because they were thinking of doing a compilation or boxed set, but Walter had lost the soundboard tapes and masters. Did you know anything about tms?

DD: Well, I gave Walter every original tape. He was real paranoid about 'em. I did keep a copy of one show because it was too beyond belief.

ML: Out of all the shows, could you tell us which ones were the best?

DD: Seattle was fantastic. The Eagles were in the audience and we didn't even know. Irving Azoff was there also and he was goin' nuts. I've a lot of Steely Dan stories that we did -- one of 'em was actually putting Irving Azoff against a truck wall somewhere in the Midwest because he was determined to get Steely Dan on the stage and I refused to because it was too dangerous. This was outside, it was blowing a Midwest gale, it was raining and two hundred people sat on the sound wings. He had The Eagles come on and I told Bernie Leadon "Listen, I'm not gonna put Steely Dan on there." He put the Eagles on that day. It was too much. Too dangerous. Bernie Leadon left the group at that point because he got electrocuted twice. Walter turned around and said, "It's up to you, you know what you're talking about." I said, "I'm not gonna put you on there and get you killed." And so we blew the gig off and a lot of people were upset. But the next time I saw Irving he wanted me to get them together and be their manager. You see, I'm doing a book now.

ML: Will Steely Dan be a main feature in this book?

DD: Yeah, because they're the best live band that I've ever worked with. They were electric for Seattle, they were psyched up for the show, the audience was completely Steely Dan crazy. This was the first time they realized there was a market out there for them. Then there was a show in London that they quit after the show because they realized that they were such a phenomenon that they were being ripped off by their manager at the time.

ML: A guy I talked to told me that Fagen didn't quit because of his sore throat, but the real reason was because Donald and Walter thought England was a Mickey Mouse operation and just wanted to get the hell out of there. Any truth to that?

DD: No. The truth was scary to them because after they got through the first number in London at The Rainbow, they sounded so good that they freaked out and the audience stood up after the first number. They got scared. Donald especially got scared. They didn't know what was coming around and then we took off to the other dates and Donald was getting fed all this information about the management in America. It was just the same old story: the management starts making money and the guys don't. I think it was a good time to do it for them. To get back to Los Angeles and get their stuff together and get out of the problems that they had.

ML: What exactly do you think they were scared of? How popular they were getting?

DD: Yeah.

ML: Could you remember any instances that illustrate Donald and Walter's dislike of the road?

DD: I don't think they really ever hated touring except for the constant travelling and the pressure they were under for more media -- more of this -- more of that. Probe (Records) was like a Mickey Mouse record company. Everybody got the royal treatment. We had a great place to stay in London, this hotel was like a home from home. There also was a lot of personal stuff coming in. I mean, Walter's mother flew into London, a lot of weird stuff going on, psycho shit, you know. It was a decision that Donald and Walter made with Bernie Gelb and Jim Jacobs who were my people, at the time.

ML: Is it true that Donald and Walter would be in one hotel while the others would be in another?

DD: No, not really. Well, they were across the road, but it was still the same hotel, I mean there were all sorts of weird personal problems cropping up -- not with Donald, but with Walter -- with Walter's mother sending people over. She wanted to get out of there and go into another hotel.

ML: Why was his mother sending people over?

DD: To treat Walter right, let's put it that way. To look after him and all that stuff and to keep tabs on him. You have to understand I quit doing a lot of stuff after Steely Dan because I couldn't get higher musically -- soundwise and musically. The lights weren't nothing to speak about because they were a musical group. They didn't perform running around or anything other than playing incredible live.

ML: So the true reason for them quitting England was the problems with the management company?

DD: Problems with management, problems with family stuff. The hotel was an oldstyle hotel like an old rooming house and it was too close, too family-oriented and we hadn't even got started when all this family stuff came in. So Jim and Bernie hid both Walter and Donald across the road, same hotel but it's just in a different room and it was actually a better place because they had beautiful suites and stuff. It wasn't expensive or anything. It was called Blakes. So why did they quit England? Donald had a sore throat, they were scared of being too popular too quick and somebody in America was taking all that away from them.

ML: Tell me about the guy used to play along with them with the violin in concert.

DD: That was Jim Jacobs. It was a complete trip, everybody was wasted, there wasn't one person on that tour who can tell me they weren't fucked up. I don't mean blatantly staggering on the floor like we used to do in The Beatles' days. The thing is all this time people were giving them all kinds of stuff, but Jim Jacobs and Bernie looked after their butts as much as they could. It's like a lot of kids with a lot of money all of a sudden. And their popularity was coming around like crazy but Walter's such a good businessman, he knew if they didn't get back to LA, everything would be signed over to someone else and they would have nothing. There was three things going off at once: there was the personal thing, there was the LA problem, and there was that other thing. They were high when they played the stage, but it didn't make any difference, they played incredibly.

ML: You were in "The Royal Scam" sessions, weren't you?

DD: Oh yeah, all the sessions after the first two albums. Most of those people I brought to Donald and Walter. They had a set of people like Chuck Rainey, Ricky Derringer, Dean Parks, really good fucking musicians, but I came in with these radicals because I had just had 'em on a Jeff Beck tour, like Bernard Purdie, Steve Gadd and Gary would call 'em up and get 'em out there.

ML: How did you get the job with Steely Dan?

DD: This is what happened: I met them with The Kinks and I thought the band was great. But I got pneumonia and had to come off the road. So I went out with a group called Mahavishnu Orchestra and the Dan literally hunted me down afterwards to use my services and telling their management and record company that they wanted to use my production company. This was about 1 1/2-2 years after The Kinks tour. They negotiated a fee which included a retainer for me before the English tour and even though the Dan didn't finish that tour, they honored the verbal agreement.

ML: They were critical of their first two tours in the USA saying that they were literally thrown together and unsatisfactory.

DD: They were unsatisfactory because the management was just shoving 'em out there and putting them into venues they did not want to play. And they'd already done years of work with Jay and the Americans. They were mainly a studio set-up band, and they got all their friends to come out, Denny Dias, etc.

ML: What's Denny doin I now?

DD: Denny is doin' really well. He writes programs for a computer firm, believe it or not. I can't remember the name of the damn thing off the top of my head but...

ML: So what's he doin' musically?

DD: Yeah, he's doin' music, he's doing scores for TV films, he's had some groups with Porcaro on drums. Denny's at home making money off one project working for this computer firm. Denny's playing better than ever.

ML: So do you think he'd do some session work or road work?

DD: I don't know. I think Denny in his heart of hearts would like to do some road stuff and if Steely Dan ever got back together, he'd love to play I'm sure. And the way Walter's working now with Donald, anything can happen.

ML: Tell us about this guy Jerome Aniton who used to give them a rousing introduction at their later shows.

DD: He was an alcoholic truck driver.

ML: And he used to bang the truck into the walls, right?

DD: Oh, more than once. The first gig that we got him in Carolina he sheared the roof off the truck and knocked the door down.

ML: They kept him on for the introductions.

DD: Well, he was so funny. The guy was always trashed but he was so funny. We got different drivers and I just left it up to Bemie and Jim to get that all arranged because they were really trying to take care of everybody's problems. It's tough going out there with the amount of things that we were all doing physically and yet at the same time coming together at night to play these incredible shows. And I'm talking the last tour -- eighty-odd shows that we did.

ML: Was it a difficult task to get a sound that was acceptable to diem? Did they give you a hard time?

DD: Oh, yeah. I'm totally radical with sound anyway. I do music reproduction, I don't give 'em sound systems. I have a nightclub up here (Boston) with half of the Steely Dan sound system in it. I renovated it and put the speakers in there; it's all cone speakers exept for a vocal PA. I was the first guy ever to mix in the audience.

ML: Did you have a good rapport the Skunk? He said they used to do some interesting cover versions and soundchecks. Can you remember any examples?

DD: T'hey used to do Beatles songs. But the Skunk was fme. Skunk was always trashed just like everybody. You have to understand the music is so good and it always will be and even Donald's "Nightfly" album -- all this stuff that he's done. I'm hoping to go and see Walter at least at the Audio Engineering Society show 'cause I know he'll be there. I'm gonna show my face for the first time in fifteen years.

ML: What about if Donald said to you "Dinky, "I wanna go out on the road but I got these unknown really good New York guys and I wanna do it with them". Do you think it would still work?

DD: Yes. But they'd have to take Walter with them. Steely Dan revisited. Walter would have to be there because Walter would make it even better. Because those two are like one person to work with. Walter's jazz stuff is phenomenal, lately his playing's absolutely outrageous, his rig is fantastic. He's ready now.

ML: And what would you wanna do if it ever happens?

DD: I'd just wanna do the same thing that I've always done which is mix for them put the right people with the group in the right place and have him say I want this and I want that and that.

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 18:39:24 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

1) Young Wu. I heard Macca live in Chicago at Wrigley but pretty much didn't see him.

2) Mr. LaPage and others: Just a reminder. We can block Spam posts with a different forum but it will require logins and other security each time you post. I have several such forums ready to go.
We've tried it, posting goes down 60% and no more anonymity.

3) Regarding these Bill Graham Presents Archives with assistance by Dinky Dawson: I'm beginning to get the impression that these are like the grey market 1968-71 demos in so far as they are probably legally out there but Donald and Walter are probably not thrilled about their availability, to say the least. Strictly my educated guess.

Thanks again to Lurker Ray and Dean for help with the spam.



Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 18:16:11 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick

Thanks to Dean and Lurker Ray.

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 17:46:52 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in a tub in the midst of a forest

geez, what's next, Viagra ads?

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 17:45:39 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy

Wishin' I was headed to The Beacon, but for those around Indy, the annual Indy Jazz Fest runs all week and finishes with a great lineup Saturday. Our SD connection here is with The Yellowjackets. Sir Donald wrote a tune for them in the late '80s, and Peter Erskine and Ricky Lawson drummed for both.

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 17:23:20 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

While it isn't quite up there with Jerome Aniton's into, some numbnuts introduced SD at the '74 Seattle show with something along the lines of:

"Here by popular demand, at great expense to the management. You may like them. Personally, I don�t. From Los Angeles California, Steely Dan."

That's awesome!

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 16:55:30 ET
Posted by: luke, NJ

Lurker Ray- I can't speak for Pete or anybody else. But if you think that Dinky Dawson got permission from D&W to put that tape out, I want to sell you some oceanfront propriety in Phoenix. No f***ing way!

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 16:41:55 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, LAX Bound

Greg M - Please check your email

Pretty historic day today actually.
THE legendary Steely Dan soundman
Dinky Dawson a day before the start
of the Beacon Run has started to
release the bands live cassette
recordings of the legendary 1974
tour, remastered and in the
LOSSLESS FLAC Format!!!!!!!

Almost seems like Dinky might be
making a "statement" by starting these
releases the day before the start of
the Beacon run and it's uber priced

Or do these new historic releases have
the blessings of Donald & Walter? Not to
mention Skunk, Denny, Michael & Royce.
No mention can be found on today.

We all know that it is Dinky's recording
of Bodhisattva from 1974 in Santa Monica
with "Mr. Steely Dan Whatever" Jerome Aniton
has been released "officially" by Donald &
Walter on many releases. And for years
Walter has said he lost all of his copies
of the 1974 shows.

So what about this great news from Dinky?
Perhaps Pete Fogel can check in and let
us know if he has heard anything on this

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 16:28:58 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

hey ironwilly, this one's for you....

..."they got the Steely Dan t-shirts...."

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 15:28:24 ET
Posted by: IronWilly, Buffalo

LOL on the "spilling the bleach" I really did it was clorox spray. ruined the shirt that she "loved" and now i am trying to get another. As far as the Buf Bills..who knows? When they face New England will be the real test. Anyhow my offer still stands. I will buy you a shirt if you get me one. Set up on Ebay and paypal where i have 100% rating(and you should too) I will pay in advance and leave stellar feedback when I get my shirt. should be about 30+30+shipping to cover it all. if interested. Not a scam..I am not a lawyer from Nigeria or someone who will send a check for more than the amount and you can keep the rest, and certainly not going to send an agent to pick up Do I have all the scams covered now!?


Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 14:02:19 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

Hoops, did you go to either of the McCartney concerts in Chicago?

Just wondering.

Wow, I can't believe the first Beacon show is tomorrow. Enjoy it, all you sonsofbitches...

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 12:12:15 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Hey kids...Attending the pre-show Danfests in NYC all week at the Amsterdam Ale House? Gus Winterbottom has had this huge (3' X 4.5') banner made up to make it official. Look for the banner and HUGE THANKS to Gus for all his troubles, including shipping the banner cross-continent.

BTW: I was walking by a coffee shop near the Macca concert in Chicago last month and some fans were having a "MaccaFest." They had folded a sheet of paper in half and set them up like little tents on each table with "MaccaFest" or something like that written so everyone could know where to meet. It seems that there are more than a few Danfests don't come off because people walk by the unidentified attendees.



Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 12:00:15 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

And not only would I say it, I AM saying it:

With the exception of Youtube, no instructions here on the Blue on how to get or otherwise listen to grey area recordings or bootlegs. YouTube has their own way of handling recordings that are contested and I can easily refer complaints to it. I could write about five pages here now but will anyone listen and respect that I've been hassled in the past? A few of you don't see the full picture that I get behind the scenes.

I spend more time discussing the bootleg policy and other people's interpretations of it than I do putting together the Dandom Digest. I simply don't have the time; Last week, the blue was shut down into moderate mode for two days because people were ignoring my requests. I hate to do it again during this great week of shows.



Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 11:11:34 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Hey Boys n girls n boysenberries...

Working on a new Dandom Digest for another 3,000 or so Danfans who don't obsess here. Let me know by Noon Chicago time if you have any info for it. I have set lists for the last four shows, any ticket offers you have submitted to digest AT dandom DOT com and third-party contest offer from a Danfan.

The pre-show Danfan meetup place in NYC before the shows will be at the Amsterdam Ale House, 5 pm and beyond around the corner from the Beacon. Gus Winterbottom has generously arranged for a huge banner (3' X 5.5') to be hung up to flag be hung up. Hopefully they will hang it in a location in close proximity to where everyone will be sitting.

And remember that Pete Fogel has a find event scheduled after this Saturday night's show at the Bitter End. Details are below. I plan to be there for that could I miss it?

Gotta run,


Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 10:42:21 ET
Posted by: DD, Plymouth, MA

Amazing- What makes you think that it's legal? Do you really think that was put out with "the boys" permission? Can you spell "lawsuit"?

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 09:57:58 ET

Ironwilly from Buffalo sorry to hear about your misadventure,
is "spilling the bleach on it" a euphemism for you "ran one off"
and grabbed the wrong rag??? PS: what the hell got into your
Buffalo Bills Sunday!!! CONGRATS ON THAT

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 09:45:24 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Check out - guests will be sitting in with Yahel at the Beacon (and I would THINK some of them, especially Chris Motherfuckin' Potter, will sit in with Steely Dan - although the website only says they'll be with Yahel.)

For those of you hitting up the Rarities show, definitely come early to see Joe Lovano with Yahel, he is phenominal - hope he sits in for a few with the Dan as well.

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 03:36:52 ET
Posted by: Blast From the Past, ?

Andy Metzger = Andrew Metzger = ?

Date: Tues, September 13, 2011, 01:56:30 ET
Posted by: mqsrtp,

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Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 21:56:15 ET
Posted by: What I hear may be true, Los Angeles

Does anyone know who the artist is that plays on the PA before they take the stage? , It's a female singer sounds kinda like Patsy Cline

Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 21:25:42 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu - Laundry & Packing

Wow! only two hours left to bid.

Then if that goes well you are going
let us pay money for your recordings
that we normally "share" around here.

Sounds like a great deal.

Thanks again for stopping by.

Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 19:56:07 ET
Posted by: Ironwilly, Buffalo

DESPERATLY looking for a 2011shuffle diplomacy tour ladies t-shirt in a xl. I went to canandagua show in july(great as usual but 93 degrees and outdoors..ouch!)with my wife and picked one up there but promptly spilled bleach on it. I am in doghouse to say the least and can't find one anywhere. It is the ladies with the stewardess on it in an xl. If anyone is going to any of the New York shows, I would buy it from you on an eBay auction at a premium(reasonable I hope:)). Easy way to pick up a quick buck. Buy two, sell me one on eBay and it pays for yours!! I am legit and eBay will make sure we can exchange with no problems. Email me at and I will set up with you.



Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 19:43:40 ET
Posted by: El Sup, Louisville, KY

OK. So who is going to New York and is anybody meeting on Wednesday night before the show?

Hope to see many of you there,

El Sup

Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 15:48:13 ET
Posted by: callyx, NYC

One ticket to offer
Sorry for the short notice, but because of illness (DVT in leg just diagnosed) I don�t think I can make the concert.
Date: September 14, 2011 (Dawn of the Dan)
Seat: Orchestra 1/Row A/Seat 23
Venue: Beacon Theatre
I bought this ticket through ticketmaster, so can email the ticket as an attachment.
Face value is $219.50
Because of the late notice, I am willing to accept a fair offer.
Please email at if interested.

(I also sent this via email to the digest before I realized I am within 72 hours of the show so it is okay to post this here).

Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 14:44:50 ET
Posted by: Just Sayin',

Typically, the opening act starts pretty much on time and ends 20 minutes later, then 15-20 minutes later SD comes on = 40 minutes from start time on ticket. It could be another 5-10 min longer but this pads it pretty well.

Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 14:12:21 ET
Posted by: ccw, dc

Sorry if this has been asked and answered. What time has Steely Dan been going on in relation to the posted show-start? I'm wondering how late I can cut my arrival at the Beacon without missing any of their set. Thanks.

Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 13:32:48 ET

Thanks MikeTHEBAKER, great points all around, and if you were in fact
around twenty years younger than most at the show here is a belated
happy 50th birhtday!!!One final note: it always amazes me how loud
the crowd is during the beggining of dirty work then quickly deflates
when they realize the Donald isnt singing and its off to the restrooms!!

Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 13:15:07 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in pennsylvania

You make a good point about the video during the band intros. I enjoyed it, but it did divide my attention, and I found myself looking more at the screen trying to figure out what shows/movies those pics were taken from, rather than applauding for the band members....Of course im probably at least 20 years younger than the average audience member. So, just about every one of those pics was unfamiliar to me. I also noticed when Walter intro'd Donald, it was a quick one. I used to enjoy when he described his as "artist, author, man about town, stern critic of the contemporary scene, the one, the only one, the original" etc.... It was a good build up and always drew a standing applause from the crowd where as this time it was a bit lack luster. I do think Walter should have finished what he started on Saturday though. Jon H. had this WTF? reaction when WB stopped short... And if I were Donald, I'd be pissed actually. That had to have taken some time to arrange... It was kind of like only playing 9 holes of golf, or "pulling out" as a form of birth control. oh well, still doesn't change how I felt about the show as a whole, they just keep getting better and better...

Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 13:08:30 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Saw an Acura ad on the weekend, they say that Elliot Scheiner designed the audio system in it.Barely Dangential but there it is.

Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 11:35:31 ET
Posted by: Michael,

"not that there is anything wrong with that"

What exactly is "right" about it?

Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 10:48:35 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Re: "The Best"

I loved Skunk's guitar parts, and Emerson's soloing on Bodhi too, but still:
Everytime I see a lacqer upholstered poodle jumping up and down barking at the neighbors, it reminds me how much I really miss Prozac Osmonds.

Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 09:46:29 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

kz-3, nice find.

Not bad for a cover band. They certainly look like they were having fun. The gay factor is off the charts on a couple of these tunes (not that there is anything wrong with that). Rick Livingstone is hard to watch, and his vocals don't really fit the music, IMO--but he isn't the worst I've heard. The male backup singers actually sound OK, but their little bits of choreography had me chuckling while I watched.

Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 09:44:14 ET

The band killed it friday at the tower, couldnt go saturday psu vs
alabama (roll tide)!! Friday was my 9th show and I would rank it
only behind the 2009 aja & royal scam tower shows!! The 2 main
reasons for this is I thought the 2009 tower crowds were much more
into the shows, and I know I will most likely be flamed for this
but the band intros/slide show brought the show to a screeching
halt and so did alot of the people I talked to aftre the show!!
That does not include SteelyDoc who I know luved it, but hey just
my opinion!! Finally there was really no way to give a proper ovation
during these kinda of intros (even Donalds was muted) as compared to
2009 I can still here the defaning simultaneous standing ovation
for Donald!!! Donals voice was spot on and he goofed introducing
Dirty Work as something from the Royal Scam album (green earings)
Sorry if someone mentioned this already!! DONE BABBLING, FLAME AWAY

Date: Mon, September 12, 2011, 00:03:40 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, 10yearslater

Just stumbled on these clips, not sure if this band was ever mentioned here. From 1990- "The Best", featuring Jeff "Skunk" Baxter & Joe Walsh on guitars, Keith Emerson on keys, Simon Phillips playing drums and John Entwhistle handling the bass.
Rikki, Reelin' & Bodhi. Enjoy. Wow, can't believe I missed these and wow what a band, what great versions!!

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 23:26:08 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

I would consider any song they don't seem to play regularly (ie the non Josie/Peg/Hey Nineteen/Bodhi etc ilk) to be "rarities" at this point. Or put another way, I am going to Rarities night and would love to hear Pretzel Logic since I have heard it only twice live. Same with Night by Night (heard it once). Admittedly, those tunes are not as rare as Doctor Wu, Gaucho, Here at the Western World, Any Major Dude etc, but they are played infreguently enough to qualify for a Rarities night in my book. Same with Chain Lightning. I also think this particular lineup is tailor made to nail bluesy numbers like Pretzel Logic and Chain Lightning, so I really want to hear this lineup do those songs.

Any out of towners who are going to the Beacon have recs as to reasonable hotels in the area near the Beacon? I don't know anything about the area and need to book asap.

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 23:00:31 ET
Posted by: Len, F

Anybody besides me think it's funny to ask if there's a rhyme or reason for their inclusion of a song called Pretzel Logic?

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 22:27:07 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

Anybody have any idea or theory as to when they choose to pull out Pretzel Logic? It seems very random. I mean, hearing it in the encore this year was one of the highlights of any Dan show I've ever seen, but it seems weird to do it two nights in a row, and then nothing for like a month or so.


Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 22:10:09 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Greg M check your email.....

Kinda down tonight folks to tell you
the truth. Should I be in a party
mood about flying into NYC on Tuesday?
Is that the right kind of vibe to bring
into town next week?

And what about us "out-of-towner"? Should
we strive to be more low keyed and respectful
rather than the "we are going to party - the
show must go on" attitude?

Any thoughts from the locals would be
greatly appreciated on this very somber
night in my house.

Sorry to talk about the 500 pound gorilla
in the living room.

But at least it is Steely Dan tangential��..

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 21:50:28 ET
Posted by: Still Sparkin', Hong Kong

Hey Mikethebaker,

That was a great read.

It's fun to hear about someone's first SD concert experience, and you did a nice job of relating your friend's fascination.

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 21:03:33 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

Haters gonna hate.

I've been to, let's see, 8 shows since 2003, in two different countries, on two different coasts, in brilliant sunshine and torrential rain. I've heard "The Bear" twice. But I've never heard "Pretzel Logic" live, even though I'd really like to. My point: a common song, "performed many times over the years"? Not really, no. Here's hoping they drop it in on September 17th, in between "Old Regime" and "Second Arrangement." ;)

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 19:22:29 ET
Posted by: geo,

That was my point. Night By Night and Pretzel Logic are by no means "Rarities".

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 18:43:34 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH

@KLaus (Bob)

Good to hear you were in Philly...glad you enjoyed the show! Still sorry we couldn't get together in Toledo...I'm sure our paths will cross at a Dan show in the future. Doc H and I will be in NYC for the last 2 nights. I will post a set list accordingly (I'm sure others will as well) Take care, ttomato

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 17:27:04 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, someplace

Geo - the surprise was that they played Night by Night and Pretzel Logic, I was not expecting to hear those on one of the 'general' nights (figured they'd come out for 'Dawn of Dan' or 'Rarities'...)

And Doc, thanks for pointing out the Your Gold Teeth omission! I was tired... (great to see you BTW!)

Oh and the that slideshow of the band members that were used on Friday and (sadly) only partially on Saturday: Those are the Photoshop handiwork of Donald himself! Let's hope they keep using them for all the band members in upcoming shows, they were hilarious!

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 17:05:15 ET
Posted by: Miles Christopher, Media,PA

I really enjoyed the Tower shows, but liked the 2009 Aja and Royal Scam shows the best. This was my second favorite group of shows over the last 15 years.

Musically, it is interesting seeing Donald play a Fender Rhodes, while Jim Beard is playing Rhodes sounds on a digital piano at the same time. That is unique.

I don't have much else to say other than it met my expectations.
I was in the Balcony both nights and on the first night there were many empty seats in the lodge that one could move into

More people the second night that were under some sort of influence of unknown substances.
The person 2 seats down from me wanted to high five me like every 10 minutes until I ignored him during Time Out Of Mind.

These people would disappear for 30 minutes a time-

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 16:32:08 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu - NYC Bound

Thanks for all of the reports
from Philly. Nice setlist last
night. Great that you guys got two
totally different shows over the
two nights, Atlanta did not have the
same good fortune. You can clearly
see that they were gearing up for "Dawn
Of The Dan" night and confirmed some of
what we probably will get Wednesday night.

Is Carolyn still singing the stop
time at the end of Pretzel Logic?

Sounds like Donald and Walter are
clearly having a disagreement as
to "what is funny?" and should it
be in the show.


"the beer girls going up and down the aisles, it was extremely annoying"

Uhgggg. When did they start that
nonsense at the Tower?


Sorry to hear about the sound issues
last night. But at least we now know
what songs Security Joan has been chasing
all summer. But Joan, if you wanted
to hear I Got the News, why not go to
an "Aja" night? ;O)


Yes Jon Pollak is a lighting genius.
Couldn't agree more.

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 12:57:43 ET
Posted by: geo, nj

Security Joan- "with some great surprises" ? Please do tell. Because I didn't see any "surprises" on that set list. Those songs have all been preformed many times over the years.

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 12:51:24 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in pennsylvania

I'm not much of a writer, but I feel the need to share about what is probably my most memorable Steely Dan experience to date...

I'm not sure where to begin.... I love the Tower Theater. Our seats were so close to the stage the we could put our feet up on it, had we wanted. We were directly in front of the mic where the Miles High Big Band would do their solos. As soon as we sat down, I turned to my friend and said to her, "this is going to blow your mind..." Except for Donald blocking out Cindy Mizelle most of the time, and Walters music stand hiding Keith Carlock's head, the sight lines were perfect.

It was my friends very first SD experience. For almost 10 years I have been trying to convince her to make it to a show with me. She was loosely familiar with most of their music from hearing me play it at my bakery, but until last night, was really only a fan of Peg and Hey 19. It wasn't long into the show before she was mesmerized by what was unfolding right in front of her. As the spotlight would shine down on whomever was soloing at the time she would turn to me and say "I....Love....Him/her" Her favorite moments of the show were, Aja, Time Out of Mind, Pretzel Logic, and believe it or not... Night by Night! A new danfan was born. At one point she goes, "whats that misty stuff coming out of their horns?" I said, that mist, is spit.... "woooowwww, these are some serious dudes!"........

The sound was kitchen clean...and being able to zero in on each individuals technique, movements, and monitor made it difficult to even blink for fear of missing something great.

Some interesting observations...
-Jim Pugh wears those shoes, (I don't know what they are called) that fit like gloves and he counts out rhythm with his toes.
-Walt Weiskopf's concentration level could probably make objects move across the room.
-Walter yawned a couple times.
-We were sitting next to 102.9 WMGKs grand prize winner, and he was having the time of his life..
-Ready Freddie LOVES his job and also loved winking and smiling at my friend, I was kinda hoping I could pimp her out to him...
-Walter came pretty close to crossing the line during his Hey 19 speech. "We're getting ready to head back up to NYC and cause some serious mayhem, I dunno, maybe blow up a couple of buildings or something"
-Security was very tight. I was very careful by turning the brightness way down on my iphone and no flash of course, was able to snap a couple quick shots with it. I was given one warning, and my phone didnt leave my pocket once afterwards. After the show, I apologized to the staff guy and he said, hey no biggie, but that was one thing the band was extremely specific about, they hate the cameras.
-Don and Walt have put together the best band possible, I would be very disappointed if any one of them were shuffled out and replaced. But why would they be? This group was made to play alongside each other, so tight, so talented, so perfect together....

On our way back to the car, we ran into Walt W. and his wife. He was as friendly and willing to chat as always. I told him it was my friends first Steely Dan show. He asked her if she had a good time. She said, "I. Love. Steely. Dan!" Walt really enjoyed hearing that..

Yeah, so the same friend that thought it was lame when I told her 95% of the time she would be sitting down at the show, bobbing her head, instead of getting up and dancing, afterwards said, "there was so much going on, so much to watch, and listen to, it was like a musical, and it was like better than the best movie I have ever seen, I was glued to my seat." A couple weeks ago she said to me, "I'll bet you have a hard on already cause your SD shows are coming up, ya freakin' weirdo!" And now shes asking to go to the Jon Herington Band show with me in Phoenixville next month, HA! Gotta love when someone discovers great music....

Next stop, Rarities Night...

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 10:40:58 ET
Posted by: klaus&therooster, Philadelphia

They definitely opened with Your Gold Teeth which was very good and one I've never seem them do. Night by Night and Bodhisatva were highlights for me. It was my 9th SD show and probably the worst sound-wise which is unusual because the Tower is usually impeccable. Don's vocals were EQ'd poorly, the piano was loud and the horn section when not soloing was soft. Too much high end all around. Don's melodica and rhodes solos were great, he's such an underrated keyboard player. WB's guitar licks seemed more interesting than usual, he used about 8 different guitars from what I could count and had numerous technical issues with his rigs. It was definitely the most consistently upbeat and loudest SD show I've been to but the sound could have been better and this is not coming from a casual fan, I have a degree in music production.

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 07:49:26 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower

Your Gold Teeth should be added to last night's set list, right before Aja.

Security was extremely tight both nights, with guards on the prowl for anyone taking pics or video. Between the guards and the beer girls going up and down the aisles, it was extremely annoying.

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 03:05:23 ET
Posted by: security joan, setlist land

SO hey, another great show at the Tower, with some great surprises. Must say I was disappointed when the into/slideshow thing was cut short, because last night it had people in stitches.. I REALLY hope they resume the little presentation they did on Friday for next shows! (And BTW I've heard that Donald himself is the Photoshop mastermind behind all of those hilarious images!)

ANYWAY here is the setlist

Dizzy's Bidness
Black Friday
Hey 19
Time Out of Mind
I Got the News
Show Biz Kids
Home at Last
Papa Don't Mess (intros w. truncated slide show)
Dirty Work
Night by Night
Pretzel Logic
My Old School

(encore) Kid Charlemagne

... I do think this is the first SD show I've been to when they didn't play "Josie"

But "I Got the News", "Night by Night", and "Pretzel Logic" have been on my wishlist for some time, so I was a pretty happy camper tonight!

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 00:31:57 ET
Posted by: mike_the _wu, Jersey

Yep, another great show, like doc said, in the middle of the videos, Walter said shut off those annoying video's and finished the intro's without them. I am jealous of everyone going to the Beacon, please send in your reviews

Date: Sun, September 11, 2011, 00:02:38 ET
Posted by: Steelydoc, Near da tower

Great show tonight, I think around five or six songs were switched from last night. tonight: FM, Pretzel Logic, Home at Last, and a few others were played. I know that Babylon Sisters and Green Earrings were dropped tonite.

Sad t say, but Walter stopped the video portion of the band intros about halfway through...looked like he was not enjoying it.

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 20:03:08 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

From what I've seen on these videos, particularly that one of Peg from The Tower, I have to say the lighting director's doing a great job on this tour.

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 19:35:39 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach


"Actually, though, I thinkg it's becuase the outtro at the end of the interview is Josie."

Thanks. I actually sat through that entire pointless interview, but must have clicked off in disgust before the outro. I will trust you on this, as I haven't the stomach to rewatch it.

And I will skip rewatching the Donny and Marie Reelin video again. It was pretty funny (if more than a bit disturbing) the first time, though. Donny singing Peg to the beauty contestants (blissfully ignorant of what he was singing) was the funniest of the lot, IMO.

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 15:39:14 ET
Posted by: Luker Ray, Malibu

Thanks for the info Steelydoc

Sounds like a hoot.

Have a great show tonight guys
wish I could have headed east
earlier than next week.

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 14:48:34 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Donny, I always wondered where Carolyn, Cindy, and Catherine got their cool moves. If youtube had been invented for only one video and that link was it, it would have been worth it.

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 13:54:48 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

Nice set list but no real changes. Barring a giant set change tonight it doesn't look like we'll get any suprises before Beacon.

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 13:34:57 ET
Posted by: Donny, SLC

here's the reason

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 12:55:47 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

The Dean - I think it's because Donny is the spitting image of Walter!

Or maybe it's because he weathered a storm of inane questions and didn't hurt anybody.

Actually, though, I thinkg it's becuase the outtro at the end of the interview is Josie.

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 12:38:04 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

OK Vic, I'm stumped. How is that Osmond clip Dan-related?

Thanks for the Philly reports. I'm hoping to read some blow-by-blow stuff later today.

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 12:03:45 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, hiding

Philly. Peg. Last night.
(Some others out there with horrible sound)

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 11:50:40 ET
Posted by: shark de ville, upon the platform


thanks for posting the Mike McDonald (aka White Lightnin) spoof.

can't stop watching. can't stop laughing.

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 11:19:58 ET
Posted by: Vic, X

And to complete the Donny Osmond/SD trilogy.

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 11:02:02 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower

great show last night, band was very tight. Sound was great...

During the band intros, a screen comes down and Walter introduces everyone, and tells a story about them, as a photoshopped pic of the band member is shown on the screen. Very funny images, many from old movies or TV shows. They were wondering how it went over with the crowd, if they "got it." I think the crowd got it, and seemed to be laughing hystrically at both Water's stories and the pictures...

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 03:38:44 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Thanks for the reports from Philly.

Tell us more about the slide show please.

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 01:08:09 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA

Thanks for the setlist Joan.

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 00:52:30 ET
Posted by: Anonymous, upper Darby

Ray, you were impatiently waiting for a setlist and the show wasn't even over. chill.

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 00:48:11 ET
Posted by: security joan, near the land of nod

Oh! My fave Walter comment of this show: ."does this guitar make me look fat?"

Btw he was spot on tonight, both playing-wise and wit-wise .

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 00:47:25 ET
Posted by: mike_the _wu, Jersey

Joan you beat me to it, all I can say is I have no idea how they can top tonight's show tomorrow night, but it will be fun to watch and see if they can. I will be at the Waterford tomorrow at 6pm in my Steely Dan Twenty Eleven Shirt if anyone wants to say hi (A+++ show tonight)

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 00:33:14 ET
Posted by: security joan, philly

Set list from a fabulous show at the tower ...
Funny thing happened trying to get setlist from the stage crew...a guy offered me Donald's coke can instead !!

Dizzy's bidness
Your gold teeth
Black Friday
Hey 19
Time out of mind
Lunch with Gina
Show biz kids
Black cow
Babylon sisters
Papa Don't mess intros (w. Hilarious slide show)
Dirty work
Green earrings
My old school
(Encore) kid Charlemagne

More later!

Date: Sat, September 10, 2011, 00:30:52 ET
Posted by: mike_the _wu, Jersey

Hey Ray,
I just got back from the Tower, they nailed it tonight, best show I have seen of all of the tours in the last 11 years. I will try to post the setlist from memory in a few. (If no one else does)
I am now considering the Beacon, trying to get a second mortage tomorrow (Sorry, a little bit of weak humor)

Date: Fri, September 09, 2011, 23:07:52 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Sweet Home Malibu

Still no word from Upper Darby?

Saints be delayed

Date: Fri, September 09, 2011, 19:01:27 ET
Posted by: the bullgoose, sweet home bonalbo, Australia

Bullgoose here.
Ahoy, Mr La Page

Rest assured:that DF video you ordered (and may well have received by now) is the real deal.
Although Donald considers each and every word like a Supreme Court Judge he gives a fascinating insight into the way he uses the blues as a harmonic starting point for many of his songs. Even the 'gregorian' intro to Josie came from the Louisiana swamps. If you are a pianist it's gold. Don and Warren Bernhardt have a swell old time discussing the tunes and then playing them through on dual pianos.

Date: Fri, September 09, 2011, 15:02:27 ET

Sorry about the double post it was for the hearing impaired!!
Think Garrett Morris(SNL)!!!

Date: Fri, September 09, 2011, 13:58:55 ET

I have an extra ticket for sale for tonights tower show lower balcony
row jj. If you have any interst either e-mail me before 3:00pm or
got to FRANK PICAS bar and girll right near the theater where I
will be partying before the show, probably at the bar!! ps: face value

Date: Fri, September 09, 2011, 13:49:29 ET

I have a lower balcony roww jj single ticket for tonnights Tower
show face value!! e-mail me asafp if you have any interest, I will
be partying at Frank Piccas bar before the show, right near the theater!!! be here until 3:00pm

Date: Fri, September 09, 2011, 10:24:07 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower

Steely Dan And Steve Winwood Christchurch Show Cancelled

Friday, 9 September 2011, 1:26 pm
Press Release: MG Promotions

Media Release - Friday 9th September

Steely Dan And Steve Winwood Christchurch Show Cancelled

Wellington Show Added

The Frontier Touring Company wishes to advise that the scheduled Steely Dan and Steve Winwood concert on Wednesday 2nd November at CBS Arena in Christchurch has been cancelled.

All tickets held for this event will be refunded fully from your original point of purchase (Ticketek). Tickets for the Christchurch concert are non transferable for the new event in Wellington.

Steely Dan and Steve Winwood will now play a new concert on Wednesday 2nd November at the TSB Bank Arena in Wellington. Tickets for the Wellington concert will go on sale through Ticketek at 9am on Thursday 15th September.



With support from Anika Moa


Tickets on sale Thursday 15th September from Ticketek 0800 TICKET or


Tickets from Ticketmaster 0800 111 999 or


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Tickets from Ticketmaster 0800 111 999 or


Date: Fri, September 09, 2011, 09:36:03 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston

Real quick.

Wet Side Story > Cousin Dupree.

Just so you know.

Date: Fri, September 09, 2011, 09:35:06 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Brain, Ticketless, NJ

Friends and Steely colleagues, you'll find this quite amusing. Somewhere out there, a man took the time to put together this Borat meets Behind The Music spoof of Michael McDonald. I laughed my ass off.

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 22:11:46 ET
Posted by: TO Danfan, watching football

Mr LaPage
Yes of course its Perfection in bad
My dvd is NTSC

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 19:27:09 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, high in the custerdome

If you walk back or across aisles during any concert, the sound varies a lot depending where you are. When I'm at a SD show, I go to WATCH them play, and there's no better seat than down front for that. I already know the music, and the sound is still better than most other spots in the theater. Sure, ideally for sound you are dead center and a few rows back. these happen to be on the right side, rather than Jon and Walters..

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 18:33:30 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, near the soundboard

I was being a bit sarcastic Luke, but in all honesty, as a veteran of hundreds and hundreds of concerts, I would rather sit farther back, about a quarter to halfway back from the stage as close to dead center as possible for optimal sound. Sitting in the first few rows can be fun, but in essence you are listening to the stage monitors and the speaker sound is going over your head behind you.

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 17:48:30 ET
Posted by: luke, denver

Not really Mr. Lapage. Those are two of the best seats in the house!

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 17:43:06 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

first two rows in the pit for Rarities night at Beacon? Sounds all well and good until you realize you'd be pretty much looking up at Becker's crotch all night right in front of you......

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 17:23:16 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, high in the custerdome

Check Ticketmaster REGULARLY...

Tickets in the first 2 rows of the pit are available as of right now for Sept. 23rd show at Beacon.

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 15:53:20 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den on ebay

Speaking of hard to find live shows that you wish you had, this is not directly Dan related, but I just found, after, oh......about 20 years of searching, a concert laserdisc (yes, I still collect them and have multiple working laserdisc players) I have been wanting---Bob Welch and Friends Live at the Roxy. Japan laserdisc on Ebay of a show from 1981 that included almost all of Fleetwood Mac making guest appearances (Christing McVie, John McVie, Mick Fleetwood). It has never been released on DVD and surprisingly never even released on VHS. Only legit release is on laserdisc.

It was only released in the US on RCA Selectavision CED disc (the forerunner to laserdisc) which is unplayable on regular laserdisc players, and on Japanese laserdisc (legit release, this is not a bootleg), which I finally found at a somewhat reasonable price. You won't believe how hard it is to find certain concert laserdiscs that are of course long out of print and will never see the light of day on legit DVD etc. Still trying to get a reasonably priced LD of Grand Funk live and a few others. Also been recently stocking up on some hard to find Jazz live concerts on laserdisc, including some with Wayne Shorter on sax (see---there is your Dan connection). Found a sweet one recently that has a band which includes Shorter, Stanley Clarke on bass and Lenny White on drums. I also treasure my Larry Carlton laserdisc......

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 15:17:06 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

Re live DVDs, how bout Rush? I think one tour they actually released 2 different live DVDs from the same tour with pretty much the same setlists. Peter Gabriel is pretty prolific with the live DVDs also, and he's just a big a perfectionist as Walter and Don. Just saw the New Blood Orchestra film in 3D this past Monday---awesome.

As I've said before, this run of NYC and Boston shows provides the perfect opportunity to document this band on video for a truly definitive live overview and history. They are nuts if they don't take advantage of this while Don can still sing relatively smoothly. You never know what circumstances could suddenly arise, and then if you don't do it, you have a lot of regrets later.


Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 13:58:59 ET

Point well taken Ports!!! So damn jealous of the groups that seem to put one out(a dvd) every f*CKN tour!! Yes U2 I am speaking to you!! There
fans are very lucky and I proudly include myself in that category!!!

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 13:19:05 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

M.LaPage, glad to hear you made that decision. Check the Danfest page for pre and post show meets.We'll be there too.Can't wait!

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 13:14:36 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

its actually "Perfection in Performance" but the listing I saw says its PAL Region 2. Anyone know if it came out in NTSC?

I am crazy but I decided to go to Rarities Night in NYC. I sprung for a ticket, first row Loge which was surprisingly available. Got some cheap air and I pray for a nice set of Dan rarely played tunes. Don't care about pre Dan stuff or even necessarily unreleased stuff. I really just want to hear the not played or not often played catalog gems. Who else is going? Where's the party?

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 13:02:24 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

Sorry about the double post.

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 13:00:23 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

"Guys do eveyone a favor and
put out a cd/dvd full length concert already!!! "

Dlyanfan you know if the concert dvd finally comes to pass that the "Blue" will be littered with complaints about the setlist.

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 13:00:16 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

"Guys do eveyone a favor and
put out a cd/dvd full length concert already!!! "

Dlyanfan you know if the concert dvd finally comes to pass that the "Blue" will be littered with complaints about the setlist.

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 11:06:35 ET
Posted by: Just Sayin',

Whenever I forget who played what on the 93 and 94 tour, I check out Steely Dan's Alive In America CD (Giant/Reprise, 1996). The credits are all there.

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 09:43:16 ET

WonkaVader Monseur Sheppard definatly on board, just watched the
1993 Albany show last night!!!They introduce him twice, once during
the bands starting line-up and again during chain lightning!!
Finally isnt it depressing that they have put out so little as
far as DVD'S go, that were left scrambling after crumbs, could
this version of Plush have an extra song, does the un-rated
version of Aja have full-frontal nudity??(of the ladies of course)!!
Its both sad and a little depressing!!Guys do eveyone a favor and
put out a cd/dvd full length concert already!!! DONE BABBLING

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 08:47:39 ET
Posted by: Tom, Peters

Re: Walter's guitar experimentation...too bad that degree of experimentation doesn't apply to set list and band members (one can only imagine the possibilities).

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 08:18:37 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

Mr. LaPage, I'm pretty sure that Bob Sheppard was also one of the sax players in 1993. I have one of his jazz cd's, so I instantly recognized him in the band with Erskine. Erskine played drums on his cd, which was produced by Walter Becker.

Sheppard may have actually been the brass leader and arranger for the tour.

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 07:31:21 ET
Posted by: Entmoot, Fairfax, VA

Someone asked:
"Any Dan fans going to see the Peter Gabriel 3D concert movie tonight at the theater? I am going to catch it since I stupidly missed the tour."

I did get to see the PG 3D movie here in Fairfax, VA.
I also missed the few US tour dates of this show.
Simply put, if you are a Peter Gabriel fan of any degree,
It plays again across the US this coming Monday September 12, 2011.

Here is a global link to find where you can see it in your area:

Date: Thurs, September 08, 2011, 02:24:57 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

A couple of questions for the Dan historians out there. I was listening to the first SD show I ever went to today, Sept 1993 from Riverport in St. Louis, with that awesome Royal Scam/Bad Sneakers/Aja instrumental intro. A lot of vibes solos in that show, which reminded me how cool it was to have that extra vibes/percussionist in the band on that tour. Was that the only tour they used one? I love the sound of the vibes, really adds a lot and I don't remember them having one since, which is a shame.

Also, was that the only tour where all the brass was saxophones only, which they made a point of (no trumpets, trombones)? It seems to me it was, thus, why did SD change thier mind in later tours and abandon the all sax format? I remember how cool it was to see 3 guys with saxes up there wailing away on that tour.....
What a band.....Peter Erskine on drums, Warren Bernhardt on keys, Cornelius Bumpus on

Date: Wed, September 07, 2011, 22:35:47 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

Ha, had to laugh about the Cousin Dupree reference. I was at a dinner party the other night and we were listening to Two Against Nature during appetizers and one of the ladies in the family room, where the music was loudest, said "did he just say what I thought he just said?". She was totally unfamiliar with the song but apparently listens to the lyrics. I would be the last to know as I always jam to the music and hardly understand what the vocals are saying anyway.

Which is why I always liked that Paul McCartney and Wings smash hit "Man On the Rug".

Date: Wed, September 07, 2011, 19:36:58 ET
Posted by: Jake, Philly

Does anyone know what time SD is taking the stage at the Tower this Friday? Is there an opener?....thanks

Date: Wed, September 07, 2011, 18:31:06 ET
Posted by: jon and walter guitars,

Nice photo gallery of all their onstage guitars, amps and effects.

Date: Wed, September 07, 2011, 17:38:43 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Cousin Dupree it is, Mr. LaPage. Thanks!

Date: Wed, September 07, 2011, 15:47:11 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Bel Air - Still At The Office Heat Wave Day 2

Greg M,

Please check your email...


I'm just a big A&M records fan also.
I love to see Herb Alpert & Lani hall
from Brasil 66 perform also.

One of my favorite Roger Nichols tunes
is "The Drifter". I never tire of it.
Here are 3 completely different versions
of this LA pop gem all done by A&M artists.
Including the rare version from the hard to
find Pisano & Ruff LP "Under The Blanket"
produced by Herb Alpert with Herb on vocals.

Looking forward to the reports from Philly
this weekend and what they have in store
for the 2 night run. Wish I could be there.
I always loved the old Tower though the
neighborhood always scared me a bit ;O)

Date: Wed, September 07, 2011, 14:33:54 ET
Posted by: PGE, A DVD by any other name...

Hoops: '
I got a bit curious about the number of renamed Plush TV DVD releases popping up on reputable European CD/DVD sellers pages.

With the length and song listings being the same as the original I opted for an oddity; a CD copmanion to a DVD titled "Steely Dan in Concert" that proved to be the soundtrack from the DVD minus the chat and in mono(!).

Tracked that release to a company in The Netherlands that seem to deal in releases of ... "questionable origin".

More here:

Since they stick around year after year my guess is that it must be somewhat semi-legal as the music industry seem to leave them alone.

Bottom line: Not worth spending your money on. Look for a new/used copy of the original Two Against Nature - Steely Dan's Plush TV Jazz Party In Sensous Surround Sound DVD.

Date: Wed, September 07, 2011, 13:01:06 ET
Posted by: Rave On, Lubbock TX

Today would have been Buddy Holly's 75th Birthday.

Am the only who has thought more than a few times that Jon Herington could pass for Buddy Holly's brother or son?

Date: Wed, September 07, 2011, 12:43:22 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, @ The Dean

"I guess I'm just confused a bit (as I am much of the time)"

Relax, Dean.
Those not confused are most likely mislead. ;o)

Date: Wed, September 07, 2011, 10:06:06 ET

Mr. Lapage in the den, vh1 classic seems to air all the old storytellers except Steely Dan, go figure???Nice comeback on Luke
I would call it a technical knock-out!!! Very funny!!ps: I am a
Luke fan!! Finally, Lurker Ray you are a f*ckn encyclopedia of music
3 more days until the Tower, I will leave the set-list and review
to my friend STEELY DOC much more qualified than myself for this task!!! DONE BABBLING

Date: Wed, September 07, 2011, 09:27:56 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in pennsylvania

Do you think the addition of Larry Carlton on Sept 23rd makes it less likely that we are going to hear a good amount of "21st Century Dan?"

Also, being that it's less than 72 hours 'til the Friday night Tower show, I am looking for 1 more ticket if anyone has an extra they'd be willing to sell...

Date: Wed, September 07, 2011, 05:47:21 ET
Posted by: SS, HK

I don't know about an Aja SACD release for the U.S., but I did get an email from CD Japan saying Universal Muisc Japan has cancelled the planned SHM-SACD release of The Royal Scam.

They'd been pushing back the release date for some time.

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 19:07:20 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

Hoops, wouldn't the woman have been troubled by Cousin Dupree, not Janie Runaway?

I am now wondering whether I blew it and did not record that Storytellers episode. I could have sworn I watched it at some point, but I record so much stuff with the DVD recorder I tend to lose track. I will be miffed if I didn't. Anyone know if VH1 Classic reairs those Storyteller episodes?

The "Plush" DVD is surprisingly out of print so I made sure to grab a second one at a used DVD store just in case, for backup purposes. I think the Aja album DVD is just a repackaging, no new material.

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 18:43:00 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Also: Any word if the Aja SACD that came out in Japan will be released domestically in the USA. Obviously, that would be swell and hopefully more affordable.


Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 18:41:35 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

I keep meaning to ask about a couple of SD-released DVDs.

This thread reminded me.

Regarding the Jazz Rock DVD, I know it was re-released on DVD circa 2003, but I read somewhere it was re-released circa 2006 or more recently. The same for the Classic Albums Aja DVD. Maybe this was just a switch in manufacturing or something.

Does anyone know if these videos are at all different (for better or worse) enough to repurchase? I know the packaging has changed.

It seems like the "Plush" DVD is out of print.

Would love for the FULL Storytellers episode to be out on DVD. I liked the part where Donald rebuts the lady complaining about Janie Runaway: he said something like, "You're disturbed? Well, it IS OK to marry your cousin in some states." Right now we only have Kid Charlemagne from Storytellers out with nice mastering and packaging.



Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 18:19:49 ET
Posted by: Napoleon, U.K, lost in translation

... sorry guys, the quote from Donald tickled me simply because of the manner in which he delivered the line. It sounds like the hesitation and enthusiasm he would muster when answering to when the next record will be finished.

Do you really think he's still holding out for a chance go back in front of a camera to pick apart the chord progression for Slang of Ages?


Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 18:01:57 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, Shocking the Monkey

Any Dan fans going to see the Peter Gabriel 3D concert movie tonight at the theater? I am going to catch it since I stupidly missed the tour.

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 17:38:38 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

@ Luke,
thanks for that VHS info on the Fagen video. Did it come out in 8 mm film? Super 8? What about a kinescope?.....

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 17:27:56 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

@ the Dean

I didn't say that. Someone else posted that as apparantly a quote from Fagen from this DVD I just bought (but don't yet have). I don't know what it means either until I watch the DVD.

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 16:56:50 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Not quite sure why anyone cares if someone posts about a Steely Dan related project that isn't recent. Seems a bit petty and counterproductive to blast someone in a post like that--at least IMO.

Moving along... Mr LaPage you wrote, "think my favourite part is listening to Donald Fagen saying he hopes they'll be back again sometime (and knowing there's no way he'd come back)". I have to admit I'm not quite sure what you meant by your comment. I think it left the door open for Don to do another lesson down the road if he felt like it. Or maybe it was just general politeness. Were you suggesting Don didn't enjoy this, or would never participate in something like this again? I guess I'm just confused a bit (as I am much of the time).

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 16:17:19 ET
Posted by: Concepts for Jazz/Rock Piano, Info

VHS Release Date: January 1, 1994

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 15:33:12 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

@ Luke

20 years too late? Wow. Since the DVD came out in 2003, that's interesting. And since I just came upon it, its new to me.

Hey Luke, I am going to post something about Wayne Shorter and the Aja album now. Yeah, I know, Aja came out in 1977 and Wayne Shorter has been a major jazz figure since the late 50s, but is it OK if I talk about them?

Well here goes nothing, I am throwing caution to the wind at the risk of incurring the rath of Luke...

I just picked up the 2 CD set "Footprints: The Life and Music of Wayne Shorter". Great overview of the sax man. Here is a cool recollection from the booklet about Aja, which is included in the compilation:

"Wayne was particularly receptive to pop material with oblique lyrics, irregular harmonies, and meticulous studio production......When Wayne went into the studio to record his solo for Aja, the song was nearly complete, so he had a full sense of the eight minute Latin tinged suite. 'He was very thoughtful and probing about the musical possibilities', Walter Becker says. 'Wayne was very intent on forging a novel approach to the piece. He was influenced by the contour of sections other than the section he actually played over.' The section over which Wayne plays is mostly built on a very static, single chord vamp, though it is a rich chord. Lifted by the explosive drumming from Steve Gadd, Wayne's solo is majestic and stately, tracing a mountainous arc with cleverly displaced references back to the vocal melody. Steely Dan was famous for its "heavily massaged solos", but Wayne's solo was recorded in just two takes: he spontaneously constructed his solo so carefully that they were able to use the beginning of one take and the end of a second."

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 14:20:15 ET
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Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 14:02:17 ET
Posted by: luke, denver

Jason- "You Got The Bear" I'm sure was played as a test run for them playing it on "Rarities Night" in NYC. Since it's probably the ONLY rare song that they will play that entire night.

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 13:56:27 ET
Posted by: luke, denver

Mr. LaPage- You're about 20 years too late with that info about that Fagen video.

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 13:52:54 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Bel Air - At The Office Heat Wave

"Roger Nichols And The Small Circle Of Friends" - A&M Records 1968 is a highly recommended little pop gem I think. Producer Tommy LiPuma is
also very Steely Dangential. Here's the basic info on "the other" Roger Nichols from wiki:

Nichols co-wrote many songs with lyricists Paul Williams and Tony Asher (Brian Wilson's lyricist on the Pet Sounds album).

Asher and Nichols co-wrote several songs on Nichols' debut album Roger Nichols And The Small Circle Of Friends (A&M Records, 1968) which was produced by Tommy LiPuma, engineered by Bruce Botnick and featured session contributions from Van Dyke Parks, Randy Newman and Lenny Waronker. Although the album was not a big seller, A&M co-owner Herb Alpert recommended that Nichols be hired by A&M publishing as a staff songwriter, and it was during this period that he was introduced to Paul Williams.

Nichols' collaborations with Paul Williams include "We've Only Just Begun", which was originally written for a bank commercial. They were commissioned to write a jingle after a bank exeuctive heard Nichols' album, and it was composed in a matter of hours on the last day before the deadline.

The commercial (sung by Williams) was heard on TV by Richard Carpenter, who believed it had hit potential and his group The Carpenters subsequently recorded a version, which became a major hit for them in late 1970. It was nominated for a Grammy for Song of the Year, was included on BMI's million performances list and received an award for selling a million copies of sheet music. The song was also covered by Curtis Mayfield among many others.

"Times of Your Life", performed by Paul Anka, had reached number one on the Adult Contemporary chart (3�10 January 1976).

Another Nichols-Williams song, "Out in the Country" by Three Dog Night and later by R.E.M., landed in the Top Ten. Six months later, "Rainy Days and Mondays" was another gold record by The Carpenters and Nichols' third gold record in a single year.

Other hits were The Carpenters' "I Won't Last a Day Without You", "Travelin' Boy", and "I Never Had It So Good" covered by Barbra Streisand. He also scored the theme song from Hart to Hart.

Nichols released a Japan only CD in 1995 called "Roger Nichols and a Circle of Friends -- Be Gentle With My Heart", featuring vocalist Sheila O'Connell-Roussell, on which he recorded some of his best known tunes including "We've Only Just Begun", "I Won't Last a Day Without You", and "Rainy Days and Mondays" (which features Paul Williams on guest vocal).

He also released a CD in 2007 with the original Small Circle of Friends called "Full Circle" which brought together the group to cover many of Nichols hits for other bands, including "Out in the Country" and "Let Me Be the One" as well as other tunes penned during Roger's late-60s heyday. 2008 saw an upgraded release of "Full Circle" issued by Steve Stanley's Now Sounds label. This version also contains 5 previously-unreleased, 60s-era demo recordings.

In addition to his extensive musical career, Nichols also is a successful jeweler.[1]

Roger's brother, Ted Nichols, was also a noted composer who briefly served as musical director for the Hanna-Barbera cartoon studio.

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 13:27:45 ET
Posted by: Napoleon, U.K

Hey La Page...

not sure if youve seen some of these samples on Youtube?

think my favourite part is listening to Donald Fagen saying he hopes they'll be back again sometime (and knowing there's no way he'd come back)

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 13:20:13 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

Just ordered a DVD from Amazon called Donald Fagen--Concepts for Jazz Rock Piano. Looked interesting as the description says he breaks down how he constructs several SD songs. Anyone else have this and is it worth it? Figured this was interesting sounding enough to take a flyer on......

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 13:18:44 ET
Posted by: Napoleon, U.K

How satisfying is the guitar solo > wurlitzer solo > sax solo passage in Two Against Nature? (the whole track is bursting with ideas).

I know I'm preaching to the converted here but it's all we've got in the U.K to keep us entertained in the absence of new Dan material and/or appearances.

That said, I'd be pretty annoyed to have them cross the pond to hear 'Peg' again


Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 12:17:14 ET
Posted by: Jason, Boston/North Shore

Has "The Bear" disappeared from set lists this tour? I've been looking at reviews and don't recall seeing it listed except for the early shows on the tour. Hoping it makes it's way east for the NYC & Boston shows this month. Thanks in advance for info.

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 09:27:30 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, rainbound

However, "our" Roger Nichols used to produce tv commercials with Karen Carpenter & Larry Carlton early in his music business career...

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 09:25:47 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick

Thanks for your patience while the Blue was off line over the weekend.

Since I had to manually recreate the posts, I did not include those that in various ways asked what's going on with the Blue. A ocuple of others, I replied to personally.

I want to remind everyone to read the FAQ/Suggestions, etc section that appears at the bottom of the posting page.



I'm not the person who posted as "Answering" but I did send you an email last night. Maybe you are having spam filter issues. Whatevah, I too thought there was only one Roger Nichols back in the 70s, 80s and even early 90s--that SD's engineer also wrote with Paul Williams; However, circa 1994-95, I spoke to OUR man himself, Roger Nichols of Steely Dan fame, and he cleared this up explaining that it was another Roger Nichols. Doesn't get better than that. (Now everyone else, please don't flame me.)

Fly low and be cool.


Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 08:25:33 ET
Posted by: bikemann, NJ

Thanks whoever you are.

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 08:17:05 ET
Posted by: Answering, Bikemann

The Roger Nichols credited on Carpenters albums is someone else.

Date: Tues, September 06, 2011, 07:25:26 ET
Posted by: bikeman, NJ

Saw Paul Williams this week on the Mike Huckabee show. He said He wrote We've only just begun with a Roger Nicoles. Anyone know if this was our late friend???

Date: Mon, September 05, 2011, 00:26 ET
Posted by: altitude attitude, aspen and higher

Physiologically , it's better to 'hit and run' if you have that option. The full effects of altitude sickness takes a bit of time to set in, which is why people feel worse the 2nd day than they did the first day. True acclimation would take about 4-5 days. Donald and Walter did the right thing by flying in ojust hours before the show. The band and crew didn't have that option and so some of them felt a little wobbly .

You would never know it though - the whole show was magnificent and united the scruffy mix of hippies (blankets on the lawn) and the super rich (dining tables under area heaters) into one big "Oh Wow!" bomb.

Date: Sun, September 04, 2011, 18:45 ET
Posted by: Don't Shoot, The Messenger

Now that you know what you're in for, proceed at own risk.

Date: Sun, September 04, 2011, 18:44 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, t minus ten

"Jam band" Umphrey's McGee covered Reelin' last night-

Date: Sun, September 04, 2011, 16:45 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

HawkeyeDanFan and Miles,

Mutual "thanks" to Omaha and Denver!

That Omaha setlist was as elusive as some
of the creatures Marlin Perkins used to
try and coax in front of the camera.

Thank you both so much for making the effort
to find this site and post the setlists.
Done like true Steely Dan fans taking the
time to post information about shows that
many people could not attend that was not
only informative but correct and factual.
Sadly that has not always been the case this

Your first Steely Dan show Hawkeye?
Wow that really makes me envious, I so
remember that next day feeling after seeing
Steely Dan for the first time. And that
terrific 21 song set looks like it was as
tasty as a delivery of Omaha Steaks.

Date: Sun, September 04, 2011, 10:11:56 ET
Posted by: In the Spirit of how Real Steely Dan Fans post..., 98% of the rest of us...


Thank you for your time and efforts posting the set list. We've been looking all over for it. It's not a show everyone can get out to.

BTW: We don't want the only post to be some abrupt comment on insignificant typos. We're grateful for your post.

Ditto thanks to Miles.

--Typical True Steely Dan Fan


Date: Sun, September 04, 2011, 4:58:40 ET
Posted by: Been there, seen that, heard that

Date: Sun, September 04, 2011, 01:54:40 ET
Posted by: Miles, High As a Pen

September 3rd CO

Dizzy's Bidness
Your Gold Teeth
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen
Time Out of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Godwhacker .
Papa Don't Take No Mess
(James Brown cover)
Dirty Work
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years

Kid Charlemagne

Last Tango

Date: Sun, September 04, 2011, 01:44:34 ET
Posted by: HawkeyeDanFan, Iowa

Omaha NE setlist 8/31/11

Greetings from a site newbie and casual fan (stuck on the pre-Aja music). My first SD concert. What a collection of outstanding musicians!

Dizzy's Bidness
Your Gold Teeth
Black Friday
Hey 19
Time Out of Mind
Lunch with Gina
Show Biz Kids
Black Cow
Babylon Sisters
Poppa Don't Take No Mess
Dirty Work
Home At Last
My Old School
Reelng In The Years

Kid Charlemagne
Untouchables Theme

Date: Sat, September 03, 2011, 23:35:40 ET
Posted by: Bootlegs and The Blue 101,

Yeah, a couple of posts requesting boots removed with attempts at contact via personal messages to explain.

Date: Sat, September 03, 2011, 23:33:39 ET
Posted by: Bootlegs and The Blue 101,

Asking for boots openly reminds me of those people at Grateful Dead shows years ago who would point their finger in the air and scream "DOSES?!"

In college we had drugs at our parties and at Grateful Dead shows....we also sometimes had the occasional narc incognito at our parties.

When we wanted chiba chiba or coke or whatever, we didn't walk into the party and proclaim to everyone, "Hey, Bob, do you have some chiba chiba? Someone here, please give me some pot!"

No, when we figured out who might have some, we pulled them aside privately or went to that secret room and got some some, often without even asking. But we didn't publicly address it, lest the host have his party busted up.

Same here with boots.

Its OK to talk about boots since even record company execs talk about them. But it's too much trouble for hoops to have to direct traffic for actual bootleg requests here and manage all the legal nuances that go with them. Same goes for specifically offering movies or streaming clips that are great or black market.

Do Walter or Donald or Hoops or even the record execs have Boots? I bet they do but they don't offer them publically, you know?

If you think someone has a boot you'd like and you live in a territory where they are legally OK, don't involve the Blue and hoops by making a direct request for how to get, how to hear, how to checkout, etc in a post on the Blue. Instead Email the person privately just like you'd privately see someone for chiba. Emails are sometime left if you click the blue name of the poster. If they don't leave their email, it's not illegal or against policies on the Blue to ask someone for their email address. Simply ask for the email as part of a post, but don't mention in the public post that you want boots. What you ask for in email outside the Blue is none of the business of the Blue and those who run it.

That's flying low, being cool and under the radar.

Date: Sat, September 03, 2011, 20:47:27 ET
Posted by: Bethlehem, Attendee


They have over saturated the market with all the shows there since '07. Hence the need for special set list dates. I went to the Bethlehem show, but probably wouldn't even go to the Beacon this month if offered a free ticket. For sure, I am not purchasing tickets. Been there, done that.

Date: Sat, September 03, 2011, 19:15:05 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu


Yes a friend sent me a CD.

I didn't realize the Sands Steel Stage
held 7,200! Another large joint sold out
across the country this summer yet as of
this morning plenty of seats left for
sale at the Beacon in NYC.

Date: Sat, September 03, 2011, 18:47:32 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata


I'm anal about accurately writing down songs in the correct order when I attend and reviewing. Gotta represent the right way.

Hey, there's always "Generic Viagra" courtesy of our bizarre serial spammer.

Date: Sat, September 03, 2011, 17:32:30 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu


No worries. I just got fat-fingered
myself. With still no reports from
Omaha, late, MIA and incorrect setlists
this year, sadly the frustration continues.
It now turns out that people taping
shows are even copying and pasting
setlists from previous shows! I just
got done listening to the 2nd night in
Milwaukee and yup, another copy and paste
setlist error.

So please excuse the error but here is
the actual 2nd Night in Milwaukee setlist.
So f-in frustrating this year. I just don't
get it?

Steely Dan Riverside Theater Milwaukee August 28, 2011

Dizzy's Bidness
Your Gold Teeth
Black Friday
Hey 19
Time Out Of Mind
Show Biz Kids
Home at Last
Papa Don't Take No Mess
Babylon Sisters
Dirty Work
Do it Again
Piano solo
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years
Kid Charlemagne
Untouchables Theme

Date: Sat, September 03, 2011, 16:44:36 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Ray, of course you're right about 1974 vs 1973. I genuinely knew the year, but fat-fingered the copy, never correcting before it went to print. Alas, no excuse.

We got to our seats at 7:55 after soaking in the sights and sounds of Musikfest, including some of the Sam Yahel performance from outside. The crowd was still filtering in when our intrepid horn section started in on Dizzy's at 8 pm, almost on the second hand. I got the strong sense that a good chunk of the audience was seeing these cats for the first time, and the milling around stopped pretty quickly when they heard those horns blowing. It was a "WHOA!!" moment. Not a whole lot of so-called "classic rock" concerts start off with ass-kicking BeBop. It was kind of a "What the Hell..??!!!", grab you by the scruff, but in a really, really good way. I was surrounded by lots of "Wow" and "Holy shit" asides all evening.

Do we take these guys for granted?

Date: Sat, September 03, 2011, 16:09:16 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray , Back In Malibu

Excellent read Jive. I really enjoyed that.

"the hulking ruins of the defunct Bethlehem Steel complex with its silent brick factories, abandoned warehouses, and ghostly 19th century Industrial Age blast furnaces now bathed at night in purple, teal, red and orange light"

I want to see EMG and Don't Take Me Alive in THAT setting!!!!

"After 20 full years of mysterious onstage silence from 1973 to 1992"

Got to point out the error or typo on that one though. The last Steely Dan live show was in 1974. July 5, 1974 in Santa Monica if I recall. They did two final shows at the Santa Monica Civic. Mr. Aniton was there. On fire! Purty little ones.....

Herb Alpert was just sublime last night by the ocean in Newport Beach thanks Houdanfan. Steely Dangential this year after Michael's tip of the hat "Wade In The Water" solo at the Greek durng Dirty Work, also sublime.

I remember someone saying that they heard "Reelin" on Letterman earlier, they must of rerun that show with James Franco last night, but what was really eerie was that they also played "Last Tango" on the same show last night!

Looking forward to the reports from Aspen have a great show all. Probably will be a shorter festival set I figure, but still should be spectacular. I just hope they did the wise thing and got into town a day or two early to get used to the altitude.

Date: Sat, September 03, 2011, 15:33:10 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Thank you Augusta. Distilling 3000 words of gushing accolades down to 650 words, so as to fit the editorial limits was not easy.

Watching these guys perform, I ask myself "How am I possibly going to describe in words what I'm hearing and experiencing?"

SD is the ultimate "You had to be there" band.

Date: Sat, September 03, 2011, 14:43:43 ET
Posted by: Augusta, DC Native

Jive Miguel - great job. Thanks for posting.

Date: Sat, September 03, 2011, 13:52:40 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Given the 650 word limit & the reader demographic, I tried to concisely capture the flavor of Musikfest and the mastery of SD on that incredible August evening.

Steely Dan
The Sands Steel Stage at MusikFest
August 10, 2011

BETHLEHEM, PA�MusikFest is a unique spectacle, a grand 10-day annual celebration of 300 acts on 14 stages (11 of which are free). Add the international cuisine, caf�s, restaurants and tens of thousands of people walking around with their favorite alcoholic beverages like it�s the French Quarter in New Orleans and you have some idea of the ambiance of this national August event. The Sands Casino is right down the block rising amid the hulking ruins of the defunct Bethlehem Steel complex with its silent brick factories, abandoned warehouses, and ghostly 19th century Industrial Age blast furnaces now bathed at night in purple, teal, red and orange light.

The brand new Sands Steel Stage was filled to its 7,200 seating capacity when Steely Dan�s �Shuffle Diplomacy Tour� strutted into town and started at 8:00 p.m. sharp. Under a moonlit sky, the formidable rhythm section took the stage. Led by a smokin� hot horn ensemble�Walt Weiskopf on tenor, Roger Rosenberg on baritone sax, Michael Leonhart on trumpet and Jim Pugh on trombone�lead guitarist Jon Herington, bassist Freddie Washington, piano virtuoso Jim Beard and �the engine,� propulsive drummer Keith Carlock, leapt into Cannonball Adderley�s hard-bop jazz classic, �Dizzy�s Bidness.� Every jazz fan in the crowd quickly learned these are some seriously talented cats. Every rock fan in the crowd already knew this would be no nostalgic revival of a fading �70s band.

Enter three soulful Motown-esque singers, The Embassy Brats, Carolyn Leonhart-Escoffery, Cindy Mizelle and Catherine Russell, followed by Masters of Ceremony/Steely Dan founders and composers, guitarist/satirist Walter Becker and the snarky, enduring voice of The Dan, Donald Fagen.

No hesitation, the 13-piece ensemble dove into the swingin� contagious �Your Gold Teeth,� from 1973�s Countdown To Ecstasy. After 20 full years of mysterious onstage silence from 1973 to 1992, Steely Dan began touring again in 1993. The 2011 band represents the absolute peak of their creative power. The key to success has always hinged on the health of Donald�s potent, sometimes fragile pipes, and his ability to navigate some of rock�s most demanding vocal challenges. Within seconds, themes developed that set the tone for the evening: Phenomenal acoustics, an air-tight band, and Donald, absolutely locked in.

Sublime renditions of �Aja,� �Black Friday,� �Hey 19,� �Black Cow� and �Time Out Of Mind� followed. Each song maintained its roots, and yet, this touring season, Walter and Donald have loosened the reins, allowing their supremely skilled players to develop complex extended solos.

This is a band that presents glistening, elegant, funky, soulful, meticulously crafted and executed compositions juxtaposed by Fagen�s jagged, unsympathetic sneer-weaving sordid tales of unredeemable losers, hustlers, criminals, addicts, con artists and dangerous women. As the horn solos soared, as Jim Beard showcased his world class chops on the ivories, Keith Carlock�s muscular backbeat and Jon Herington�s wicked razor-sharp guitar riffs sliced through one classic after the next, and we were all reminded that amid the funky grooves and complex jazzy chord structures, Steely Dan is first and foremost a rock �n� roll band. Among the many highlights, 50 minutes into the 2:15 set, Weiskopf�s stunning tenor solo for the re-engineered funked-out rendition of �Show Biz Kids,� had my neighbor to the left, a complete stranger, turn to me and say, �they�re perfect.�

�Bodhisattva,� �FM,� �Godwhacker,� �Dirty Work� and James Brown�s �Papa Don�t Take No Mess� (used as a jam to introduce the players) preceded �Home At Last,� �Josie,� �Peg,� �My Old School,� �Reelin� In The Years� and the �Kid Charlemagne� encore. The night ended as it started with the rhythm section jamming on a jazz classic, in this case Gato Barbieri�s �Theme From Last Tango in Paris,� as Walter, Donald and the Embassy Brats strutted off the stage.

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 23:13:42 ET
Posted by: WonkaVader, Louisville

Well if you folks are going to pace the cage, waiting for the Dan to take the stage, here is one for your listening pleasure...

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 19:41:20 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Don't shoot, I can't stop laughing for long enough to be angry. WTF were they thinking? I have to admit, the first verse was really something else.

OK, combining the recent talk of bassists and interesting voices allowed me (I hope) to share this tune from Rob Wasserman and Bob Weir. As I noted, I think Wasserman might be the best bassist I have ever had the pleasure of seeing live. And Weir has a very interesting voice, IMO. While this may not be quite Dangential, it is definitely Deadgential and, as we all know, The Blue originally started a a Dead board. So while we have the night off from setlist posts, enjoy this tidbit:

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 19:38:31 ET
Posted by: Another, Scurvy Brother

I'd rather see some live "East St. Louis Toodle-oo" or "Lunch With Gina." Until that happens there's JumpRock set to Can't Buy a Thrill.

I'm sure some of you unlucky YouTube concert footage fiends have already stumbled upon these, sorry if it's been posted already.

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 19:34:07 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, PTSD central

Don't shoot: Thanks a whole hell of a lot for sharing. That is now going to replace Jurassic Park as the source of my worst nightmares.

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 19:13:51 ET
Posted by: Houdanfan, Houston

Lurker Ray...enjoy Herb Alpert. My parents had every album and it was my intro into jazz and bossa nova. And then came The Dan.

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 17:34:32 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

Going through Steely Dan withdrawal shakes after seeing them 3 times within 2 weeks including twice within 4 days. Now a 3 day weekend and they are nowhere close---would have been a perfect weekend for me to catch multiple shows in a row had the schedule been set up differently. Damn. Add on top of that my Return to Forever concert was the day after SD right in the midst of those shows. Guess I can't complain, was an amazing week of jazz rock.

Picked up a Wayne Shorter live CD used the other day and on the lookout for more, including some video.

By the way, had no idea that Jim Pugh played with Return to Forever until I checked some bios over the past week. I am telling you, a Return to Forever/Steely Dan tour would be freakin' awesome assuming they would both play full sets.

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 17:01:29 ET
Posted by: hoops, going to chicago jazz

Headed to the Chicago Jazzfest to see two great Steely-connected acts: Opener: Deep Blue Organ Trio followed by a tribute to John Coltrane featuring Joe Lovano, David Liebman and Ravi Coltrane.

I'll be out on the lawn with Miss V.


Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 15:18:25 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Newport Beach To See Herb Alpert

Well Don is a little bit country and
Walter is a little bit rock and roll.
And they are both a little bit of
Memphis and Nashville,
With a little bit of Motown in their souls

Have a great and safe holiday weekend all.

For the rest of the world, have a damn fine weekend.

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 15:01:43 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland

I'd pay good money to see Walter and Donald replicate that little dance routine.....go on just picture it!

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 14:59:42 ET
Posted by: peteb, UK

Hey, where's the guitar solo?

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 14:20:39 ET
Posted by: Trauma, W

Somebody contact Hoops to have that post removed.

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 14:20:38 ET
Posted by: Trauma, W

Somebody contact Hoops to have that post removed.

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 14:10:52 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, ugh

I am going to shoot the messenger.

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 14:03:43 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

@ Don't Shoot, the messenger

Nooooooooooooooooooo! That is just wrong and should be removed from the internet.

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 13:26:28 ET
Posted by: Don't Shoot, the messenger

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 12:14:55 ET
Posted by: pj, tj

The way some of you were talking about the "Omaha review", I was almost afraid to read it. Come on! It really wasn't that bad. I've read a lot worse.

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 11:34:41 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH

Couldn't agree more:

"So glad to see that someone else
besides me got the douche chills
when reading that Omaha review"

How about a set list Nebraska?....I'm not sure that there is internet in Nebraska. (that should cause a stir)

Don't take it personally...I live in Ohio.

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 10:03:32 ET

I apoligize ahead of time, I know there are a TON of DYLAN sites
but Mr. Lapage the 3 show run at the pageant from I think spring
2004 were some of Dylans best shows ever, have the souvenirs
to prove it!! Bottom line: youre one LUCKY basterd!!!! Now back
to our regular scheduled programming!!!

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 09:54:14 ET

The only thing I can report from the the Nebraska show is that
former cornhusker football coach Tom Osbourne was seen getting
shit-faced and screaming out requests!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 09:01:21 ET
Posted by: LC, HB

Winwood a sellout? All he did was write a Michelob jingle that doubled as a standalone hit. Every airplay of it was essentially a free 3 minute commercial for Michelob.

During this campaign, Michelob released a compilation of "night hits" which included a Donald Fagen song. I never saw the track listing, but I assumed it was The Nightfly.

Anybody know for sure?

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 08:35:27 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

"Mr LaPage, I agree with everything you say about a live DVD. It all makes perfect sense. The thing is, when I envisage a Steely Dan strategy meeting, I always think of Leslie Nielsen as the crazed air traffic controller in Airplane when they suggest turning on the runway lights: "NO! That's exactly what they'll be expecting us to do!!"

That was a Robert Stack line as Cpt Rex Kramer...interesting quote considering the Untouchables theme being played lately. But I do agree with your take it's a great idea and that's why we won't get it.


Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 07:46:27 ET
Posted by: ygk, nyc

...has anyone - perhaps East Coasters with Cablevision - had the scant chance of seeing a minute long commercial for ear drops? The problem, they say, is the age-inflected "Ringing in the Ears" so prevalent amongst boomers, I guess. Having seen this several times, I had to wonder if FreeJunket/Zeon, etc. was missing out on a licensing opportunity (not that they need it)...

just a thot.

Looking forward to hopefully catching up with some folks for Beacon week...


Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 03:42:56 ET
Posted by: peteb, UK

Mr LaPage, I agree with everything you say about a live DVD. It all makes perfect sense. The thing is, when I envisage a Steely Dan strategy meeting, I always think of Leslie Nielsen as the crazed air traffic controller in Airplane when they suggest turning on the runway lights: "NO! That's exactly what they'll be expecting us to do!!"

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 02:02:06 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu - Herb Alpert At Newport Beach Bound


So glad to see that someone else
besides me got the douche chills
when reading that Omaha review!

How about a setlist Nebraska?

Date: Fri, September 02, 2011, 01:25:58 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

Peter Hammill "likeable" voice? Lol, distinctive yes, but not an easy voice to "like". I love VDGG's music immensely, but I merely tolerate Hammill's idiosyncratic delivery.

Knopfler is incredible in concert, a must see for anyone who appreciates music. Man, can he play guitar, and he is straight out of the Bobby Zimmerman Voice School.

Still not one person chiming in who saw the Omaha concert? The sheep must be lonely tonight down on the farm.....

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 23:02:28 ET
Posted by: What I hear may be true, Los Angeles

Does anyone know who the artist is that plays on the PA before they take the stage? , It's a female singer sounds kinda like Patsy Cline

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 22:02:05 ET
Posted by: What I hear may be true, Los Angeles

Does anyone know who the artist is that plays on the PA before they take the stage? , It's a female singer sounds kinda like Patsy Cline

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 21:51:18 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick

Thanks for the Omaha review!

Well meaning enough review so I shant complain too loudly lest I be ungratefully picky, but...

"There was seat-dancing... (check)
rhythmic clapping...(check)
and touchingly reverent eye-closing (Oh Pu-leeze!) ;-)

I'll have fun with that last bit...

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 21:29:21 ET
Posted by: bikemann, NJ

Hey Dean, You may be right. I just remember way back when her being called eight octave Annie. But then again ,it was waaay back then!!

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 21:09:42 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

A real distinct and likeable voice: Peter Hammill of Van der Graaf

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 21:04:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Eight octaves, bikemann? Most sources say five. Still she has a killer voice. Minnie Ripperton had a 5 1/2 octave range.

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 20:17:41 ET
Posted by: Bikemann, NJ

Annie Haslem? Eight Octives, Need I say more????

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 19:56:33 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

OK, quick halftime post.

Since Mark Knopfler has been mentioned a couple times, shouldn't we also mention Emmylou Harris? Talk about a pure voice.

And yes Young Wu, I am a true blue, lifelong Bills fan.

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 19:15:30 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

Dean... thank you for helping carry the cross of being a fan of the Bills.

Also, someone mentioned Mark Knopfler... I started really getting into him about 2 years ago. I had always been a fan of Dire Straits, but his solo stuff? Beautiful. Fantastic. Some of my all time favorite.

Saw him in concert last year. Much like Steely Dan, just pure music played to perfection.

Border Reiver and What It Is are just two of the best songs ever written.

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 18:16:12 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Mr LaPage, I'd throw Bjork into the "ridiculous singing" category. Seriously, WTF?

As for Tom Waitts, I like him and love many of his songs. But I think I like the idea of listening to him more than I actually enjoy his voice. Same with Leonard Cohen.

And I hope I didn't give anyone the impression I don't like some vocalists with pure, and perhaps higher, voices. It's just that there are a group of those guys I simply can't take. Greg Lake is fine by me and I love Winwood's voice (although he was on my shit-list for many years for his major league sell-out). But I prefer Dave Mason's voice to Winwood's.

As for female singers, Dionne Warwick singing Bacharach/David is simply first rate stuff, IMO. Lady Day, Ella, Joni Mitchell etc--I dig all that. Deborah Berg (from very Dangential Eye-to-Eye) has a spectacular voice, IM). In fact, here's something from just a few years ago. She has a very mature voice:

And sometimes I even like screamers (though it is rare). Jenny Haan, from 70's band Babe Ruth kicked serious vocal ass. Here's a live taste:

Gotta run. Bills kickoff in 15 minutes.

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 17:52:40 ET
Posted by: I, Swear

If I see one more review with a Reeling pun in the title...

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 16:12:30 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

Oh, and Mark Knopfler would be one I like in the "offbeat" voice category, much like Dylan, Young. Same with Petty I guess. Love David Gilmour's voice, much more of a traditional smooth masculine delivery, as well as the great Steve Walsh of Kansas and Justin Hayward of the Moody Blues. Really the only vocal category I cannot stand as a whole, and really do not consider singing, would be the gutteral grunting and screaming of the death metal crowd.

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 16:01:04 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

@Lurker Ray

the corn harvest is wrapping up about now and my guess is that many of those Nebraskans will be out on their combines for another few hours till sundown, so have some patience......

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 15:49:22 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

@the Dean

if you don't like Geddy Lee and Steve Perry, I will safely assume you have no Pavlov's Dog albums in your collection......

no one has mentioned female voices---there I do tend to go with the more traditional natural sounding voices and do not generally like the real offbeat ones. Possibly my favorite female voice of all time, from a purely a technical vocal ability aspect---Karen Carpenter. You can't find a better voice than that. Some of my other favorites: Annie Haslam of Renaissance (glorious vocals); Margo Timmons of Cowboy Junkies; Joan Baez of course; Deborah Holland of Animal Logic (Stanley Clarke and Police fans will know what I am talking about); Linda Ronstadt; Kim Sanders of the German group Schiller has the most gorgeous voice I have heard in the last 10 years that no one knows about. Jennifer Warnes has one of the purest voices I ever heard (check out Famous Blue Raincoat); Kasey Chambers (alt country) and Neko Case (alt country) have great voices but more non mainstream. Not a Janis Joplin fan though. She's my Tom Waits from the female side.

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 15:29:09 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Published Thursday September 1, 2011

Review: Steely Dan still reeling 'em in

Looks like another 2 and 1/2 hour set.

"Many of the tunes included long instrumental solos � an ode to the group's jazz-influenced history"

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 15:25:24 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

I am an odd duck, because I can and do appreciate the smooth technically great singing voices as well as the idiosyncratic off beat ones for the most part. For instance, some of my favorite vocalists of all time have velvety smooth deliveries---John Wetton(King Crimson, UK, Asia); Greg Lake (ELP); David Pack (Ambrosia); Steve Winwood. I would love to be able to sing with a voice like those guys. I am a huge Sinatra fan, really appreciate his diction and phrasing, his very clear vocal delivery. But I also love, as stated below, Dylan, Neil Young, Peter Gabriel, David Byrne and a slew of other singers who are very unique in their delivery.

One of the few major artists I admittedly could never get into because of the vocals is Tom Waits. But that is one of the few. Oh, and Bjork---you have to draw the line somewhere.....

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 15:20:37 ET
Posted by: angel, LA

Lurker Ray: Exactly!

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 15:15:37 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Surprised that there isn't at least
one report from Omaha last night
especially given the historical
nature of last night's show.
Since 1972 it was the first time
that Steely Dan have played in

They seemed to hit a lot of palces
this year with nearby college football


Funny in 2006 when Donald Fagen
was charging people extra to come
and watch the sound check I didn't
see anyone here calling anyone a

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 15:15:00 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den

re my last post, meant to direct that @ Ports (as well as DYLANFAN)

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 15:14:20 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

For me, it's as much about the vocalist's singing as it is about the voice, if that makes any sense. Of course, ideally it is a combo of both. Van Morrison, Lowell George, James Dewar--these guys have great masculine voices and can really sing. Donald might not have the voice of these guys, but his singing style is unparalleled, IMO. It is also perfect for the SD lyrics.

There are some singers that have technically good voices,, but whose styles and approaches I can't tolerate. Steve Perry comes to mind. So does the lead singer for Rush. I just can't take that kind of singing.

Dean Martin? Yes. Frank Sinatra? Yes Mel Torm�? Sorry, no. Chet Baker? Strangely, yes. I can't explain it.

And then there's the special category of "ridiculous singing". Dave Matthews immediately springs to mind. WTF is that all about?

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 15:11:26 ET
Posted by: Mr. LaPage, in the den


I have seen Steely Dan now 8 times I believe dating back to 1993; have seen Neil Young about 12 times; and have seen Dylan about 16 times, including a 3 night in a row residency at the Pageant in St. Louis. I laugh at those who don't like the singing voices----it's like they expect everyone to sound like Barry Manilow.

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 14:37:54 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minnesodda


I can take any vocal style. I love Fagen, of course I have to like Bobby Zimmerman, and my favorite solo artist is Neil Young. When I trot that trio out as favorites most of my friends ask how can you stand the voice.

They don't get it.

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 14:29:07 ET
Posted by: angel, LA

When I was at Roseland, I hung out a the back door and I heard a 20 minute sound check. Didn't feel like a perve...felt like a fan. :-)

No idea how the Beacon is set up.

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 13:57:32 ET
Posted by: Here, want the sound check...that's private information. It's indoors and you won't be allowed to hear it and they will arrest you if hang out at the stage door like a pervert.

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 13:56:28 ET
Posted by: Here,

work = word

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 13:56:07 ET
Posted by: Here,


Go to

Scroll down the tour schedule to Sept 17.

There it says:

SS Sep 17 New York, NY Beacon Theatre | "Rarities" Now

Click on the work Now. It's a on it and it takes you to the Ticketmaster site where it gives you full details on the show, including start time and ticket prices and much, much more.

BTW: Sam Yahel starts a few minutes after the official start time and ends about 20 minutes later. Typically, Steely Dan has been taking the stage 35-45 minutes after the official start time.

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 13:47:59 ET
Posted by: MacAdamsnj.93, South JErsey

Could someone supply me with any information on the Sept. 17th Rarities sound check or? (I.e. what time)


Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 12:01:24 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH

Any 8-31-2011 Nebraska set lists out there?

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 09:43:35 ET

Bethleham Attendee the same thing happened to me at a Justin Beeber
concert, unfortunatly it was OREGANO!!!!Ports from MINNASODA who
says a voice cant stay sharp aftre all those years!! Sincerely

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 09:27:36 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

reelin, thanks for the heads-up.

This might help get you to the gear a bit quicker:

Date: Thurs, September 01, 2011, 03:31:59 ET
Posted by: reelin, poorhouse

Becker and Herington's tour gear at


Date: Wed, August 31, 2011, 20:09:47 ET
Posted by: bear lyrics,

in the demo it's

"but I done my time"

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