November & December 2011 Posts

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Date: Sun, January 01, 2012, 01:18:31 ET
Posted by: TO Danfan, at the bar

Happy New Year to all here at the Blue.

The better half's gone to bed so here I sit enjoying Perfection in Performance for the umpteenth time! Nice way to ring in the new year I think.

2012 is year 40! Let's hope for some new Dan music,a tour, and a box set of goodies.


Date: Sun, January 01, 2012, 00:05:30 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton Rouge

Doc: That is a tough question: What would be the first single from Headquarters?". Personally I would vote for "I Could Do Without the Moonlight." Great groove, full of hoooks, bridge that grabs you by the throat, quirky, yet accessible lyric... But that's just me. All of your choices are valid singles material.

BTW: the guitar solo on "Too Much, Too Much" is by Rik Emmett who, I believe, was a member of Triumph, a Canadian band that I frankly did not follow closely, although I do remember hearing them on the radio in Nashville and Memphis and seeing on MTV. I am sure you will remember this one: "Lay it On the Line":

Any word yet on Donald's new album?

Date: Sat, December 31, 2011, 21:25:19 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,


That's right. Canadian guitar legend Kim Mitchell is the author of the tasty incendiary solo...Also on Too Much Too Much it sounds like? Drew Zingg applies the chops on Where's Mantis Evar?, Revolver, Right About Now I think.

If they still released singles Mantis Evar, Revolver, Too Much Too Much, Man, You Love to Hate, possibly Right About Now would be the best candidates, each having some cross-over marketing potential.

Date: Sat, December 31, 2011, 10:27:51 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, the milky way


Yeah, Metheny's synth guitar surely devides the crowd. Some can't stand it and some love it.
I could probably write a book on why I love it, but will show mercy on you all since it's New Years Eve tonight. ;0)

However, he's really about the only guitarist that uses it in a way that's intersesting to my ears. Hint: His interplay with Lyle Mays (& my age in 1982).
I used to own one myself, but sold it many years ago and never missed it. Nowadays I go mostly for vintage type guitar sounds. Maybe it's called growing up? No, couldn't possibly be that, since I'm talking about me.
Like Oscar Wilde once said: The tragedy of old age is not that one is old. It's that one is young.

-Happy new year, everybody!
-Happy new year, Miss Sophie!

Date: Sat, December 31, 2011, 07:42:32 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -

Re: Dragon Tattoo.

It should be noted that David Fincher - the director of the American adaptation - used Deacon Blues in his soundtrack for Zodiac.

Date: Sat, December 31, 2011, 07:30:44 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -


Wow - thank you so much for your Metheny list! I am already familiar with Letter From Home and Secret Story, and will now expand my collection starting with The Road To You and American Garage.

For me, when exploring new artists there is sometimes a moment when it just clicks. You suddenly *get* the artist's style and want to dig deeper. With Metheny that moment was the piano riff halfway through "Finding And Believing", along with the rest of the tune. Musical bliss.

One thing I do not get with Metheny is the soaring, loud synth guitar he seems to use quite extensively. A bit too epic for my taste.

As a sidenote I was surprised to hear Metheny say in a press conference that he typically only likes two cuts from each album. Should he be placed in the "too much material for his own good" category of artists, along with McCartney et al?

Date: Sat, December 31, 2011, 00:46:31 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton Rouge

I just realized that most of you are listeneing to Monkey House "Headquarters" on itunes, and don't have acess to the liner notes. The guitar solo to which The Dean and Dr. Mu refer is played by non other than Kim Mitchell(Formerly of Max Webster). Mr Mitchell had the hit "Go for a Soda." A great video of that (appearing in some lonely dude's fridge) from 1985 can be found here:

Mr. Breithaupt plays in his band as well, and you can check them out on You Tube as well. Lots of Funn.

Dangentially, Frank Vignola is on tour and will be in Baton Rouge in February. A fellow who I used to play a country gig with is the promoter. Can't wait.

Date: Fri, December 30, 2011, 15:38:24 ET
Posted by: PGE, Sweden calling!

Re: Frishberg and Sweden; I've got a few holiday detectives on the case. (More to follow)


December 25 Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos wrote:

"PGE - I have to ask. Was your house featured in "The Girl With the Dragon Tatoo"? Have you PERhaps met her? Why was there no Steely Dan music featured in a Sweden thriller? Does everyone in Sweden have such family secrets?

Here on Phraxos (if only I'd ever actually been there), intrigue is the order of the day.


It was way much more enjoyable in Sweden back in the 1900's when we were known for free sex and the occasional suicide. Statistically that is.

These days I rarely go outside after reading Stieg Larsson's books and realising what a a terrifying country I live in. Surrounded by blonde, beautiful women ain't all it's cranked up to be, you see...

For some time Stieg lived in in the city of Ume� where I've been living for the past 20 years, but I have managed to steer clear of any girls with dragon tattoos and also kept my apartment out of any movies. So far.

While I enjoyed the Swedish movie version of "The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" I'll probably catch the new one if only to catch the "un-Swedishness" that only a die hard non-suicidal Swede can catch.


Gott Nytt �r! (*)

(*) Happy New Year!

Date: Fri, December 30, 2011, 13:03:45 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, close to Sweden

Frishberg may appear a bit obscure as an artist, but has written many songs performed by noteable artists like Blossom Dearie, Rosemary Clooney, Anita O'Day, Michael Feinstein, Diana Krall, Stacey Kent, John Pizzarelli, and Mel Torm�.
He has also worked with at least half the list of "who is who" in american jazz music.

Frishberg also has some kind of Swedish connection, as he also plays on a record with Swedish versions of some of his songs, called "Kn�ck Mig En N�t" (1998) - which is the swedish re-writing of "Peel Me A Grape". The direct translation would be "Crack Me A Nut". "Peel...." was made more or less famous by Diana Krall on her 1997 album "Love Scenes".

Maybe fagenism or PGE could tell us more about Frishberg's Swedish connection? With the name Frishberg, it would surprise me if he hasn't got Swedish ancestors.

Date: Fri, December 30, 2011, 11:51:28 ET
Posted by: web search, kb

Anybody familiar with this guy? Apparently DF is a fan.

Date: Fri, December 30, 2011, 11:26:00 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass

I would also highly recommend "The Road To You" from the Pat Metheny Group as a great starting point. "Secret Story" is just amazing!! When I first bought it back in the late 90's, I gave it a listen and didn't fully appreciate it. I put it away for a couple of years, and then out of boredom..or whatever..decided to give it another whirl and I got it! It's one of those that you need to give multiple listens and just let it unfold. Tons of musical information in that one!

And then there's "The Way Up" about tons of musical information! I just watched that DVD again on Thanksgiving. Incredible!

Can't say enough about Pat Metheny!

Date: Fri, December 30, 2011, 08:41:13 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, in Methenyland


Like Dave just pointed out, this is still supposed to be a SD forum, and I hope we're not annoying people here too much with our digressions about Metheny or other semi-dangential artists, but in times of low/no Steely Dan activity I believe it's ok to post brief comments about other favorites of ours. Besides, earlier discussions have shown that we're quite a few Metheny fans here, as well.

Editor's note: This post is actually far from brief, Jazzassin!! Shame on you!

So, to answer your question about Metheny For Danheads:

I don't have any detailed knowledge about your own musical preferences outside SD, except from what you have expressed in earlier posts - which gives me the impression of a very broad taste, at least.

Since I percieve Metheny's musical universe to be dangential mostly in the sense of general terms like fantastic craftsmanship, the ability to write music that is both very sophisticated and very catchy, and 100% dedication to musical quality paired with the pleasure of experimenting, and not so much in the sense of the sound of the music itself, it's not easy for me to recommend particular Metheny albums that will appeal specially to Danfans.
What I CAN do, is to list some albums that I think are essential in his production, which aren't too far from the sound that most people associate with Metheny, and which I like a lot myself:

Bright Size Life (1976): Debut album (age 21), trio w/ Jaco Pastorius & Bob Moses

Watercolors (1977): First album with lifetime collaborator Lyle Mays on keys.

Pat Metheny Group (1978): First PMG album, quartet with Lyle Mays (kb), Dan Gottlieb (dr) & Mark Egan (bs).

New Chautauqua (1979): First real solo album, Metheny playing everything himself.

American Garage (1979): Second PMG album, a true classic. Same lineup as the first PMG album.

Offramp (1982): PMG 2.0 with Lyle Mays (kb), Steve Rodby (bs), Dan Gottlieb (dr) & Nana Vasconcelos (perc). Metheny got himself a guitar synthesizer (and The Dean started to get a little frustrated about Pat's guitar sounding more like birds (Hitchcock's Birds, maybe?) than a guitar. ;o)

Travels (1983): First live album (Dallas, Texas). Same lineup as Offramp.

Rejoicing (1984): Trio w/ Charlie Haden (bs) & Billy Higgins (dr).

First Circle (1984): First collaboration with fagenism's new favorite melodica player, multi-multi instrumentalist, percussionist and vocalist Pedro Aznar. Paul Wertico replaces Gottlieb on drums.

Letter From Home (1989): Same lineup as First Circle plus Armando Marcal (perc). Definately one of my personal all time favorites!

Secret Story (1992): An extremely ambitious solo project with numberless old and new collaborators.

The Road To You (1993): PMG live in Europe. Same lineup as Letter From Home. Explosive versions of some of his best music performed in front of an ecstatic crowd who actually knows and sings along with some intricate guitar parts. An album so full of joy, positive energy, musical perfection and beauty, I'd rate it his best record to this date if I had to choose one. One of the best records in the history of music to my ears. Mandatory Metheny!

Quartet (1996): Metheny, Mays, Rodby & Wertico records music mostly improvised on the spot in the studio. "Slow, relaxed, experimental and dark" are words that have been used to describe the feel of this album. It's amazing what can come out of a jam session with master musicians in the studio. Metheny is also introducing the Pikasso 42-string guitar custom built by Canadian master luthier Linda Manzer. A strange creature of an instrument it is.

One Quiet Night (2003): Metheny alone in his home studio with his new baby, the Manzer Baritone guitar built by Linda Manzer. Mostly his own material with the addition of a couple of covers; Don't Know Why (Norah Jones) and Ferry Cross The Mersey (Gerry & The Pacemakers). Meditative, melancholic and utterly beautiful. One take - no overdubs.

The Way Up (2005): An incarnation of the PMG w/ Mays, Rodby and Antonio Sanchez (dr) plus Cuong Vu (trumpet, voice) (no, not the Doctor Wu...), Gregoire Maret (harmonica, perc) and three more guest appearances by some fantastic pecussionists. The album consists of one 68 minute-long composition strongly influenced by contemporary composer Steve Reich.

Orchestrion (2010): Metheny The Mad Professor is born! Metheny builds a huge mechanical orchestra with help of engineers, pneumatics & hydraulics, electronics and modified instruments, controls it all via MIDI from his guitar, and not only makes this studio record with specially written music, but also takes the mechanical circus on the road. I had the pleasure of seeing & hearing his "robots" play in Oslo, Norway. Tons of extremely high-tec equipment filled the stage, and Metheny The Maestro was in total control of his android orchestrion. I must underscore that this is not just a funny gimmick thing - it actually plays so well it's often hard to tell it's not performed by master musicians.

What's It All About (2011): Solo, and second date with the Manzer Baritone baby. This time it's covers of songs Metheny grew up with and has a strong love for that's on the menu.

Inbetween the albums on my list Metheny has released a bunch of own albums in various formats and played on more collaborations and albums by other artists than is relevant to list here.
I don't know the exact number of records on which he plays, but I think it must be closer to hundred than to fifty, at least.


Date: Fri, December 30, 2011, 07:17:24 ET
Posted by: colonel kurtz, saigon

re-Running Child

general consensus is that it may have been recorded along w.Dallas and Sail the Waterway...circa Dec not quite a CBAT outake...;-)

it may have been consedered for the Citizen box set

existed on an acetate

Thanx for Posting :D

re- Proud to be your slave

someone posted the version by Diamond known Steely version has surfaced...but it probably exists...

Happy New Year Dan fans worldwide.-)

Date: Fri, December 30, 2011, 04:04:10 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -


Thank you for the xmas list!

What are some Metheny essentials for a Dan-head? Really digging cuts like Every Summer Night and The First Circle. Kind of feel like Fagen picked up some melodica hooks from Pedro Aznar.

Date: Fri, December 30, 2011, 02:46:48 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Dave: dude, just scroll down...virtually 1/3 of recent posts refer to the album, which probably emotes D&W's solo albums more than pre-Gaucho Dan with pre-Gaucho catchiness. Check it out on iTunes, download 2 songs and call me in the morning...or not. lol

Date: Fri, December 30, 2011, 01:41:12 ET
Posted by: Houston Harry, NYC

Steely Dan sighting:

Walter Becker at Patti Smith's gig at Bowrey Ballroom (NYC). He was with 2 people I didn't recognize. Donald was nowhere to be seen. Becker was obviously hooked up because he had one of the few mezzanine tables in the SRO house --right in front of David Fricke of Rolling Stone. (the show was great)

Date: Thurs, December 29, 2011, 20:08:32 ET
Posted by: Dave,

Dean- Thank You. I haven't been on here in a long time. I figured it was still a SD forum. It would have been nice if Dr. Mu would have set up his comment with an explanation on where that song was from. It's not like Money House is a house hold name.

Happy New Year

Date: Thurs, December 29, 2011, 19:36:31 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Nantasket Beach

Well Dave, I know you didn't ask me, but I think it's fairly clear Doc is taking about a particular moment (2:29-3:09) of a song (Man You Love to Hate) on an album (Headquarters by Don Breithaupt's band, Monkey House).

Happy New Year!

Date: Thurs, December 29, 2011, 14:38:06 ET
Posted by: Dave, Atlantic Beach, Long Island

Dr Mu - What the f**k are you talking about?

Date: Thurs, December 29, 2011, 02:29:46 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

2:29-3:09 of Man You Love to Hate Pure Audio Crack: guitar solo w/ bonus shredding + background. One of many presents neatly wrapped at Headquarters. That is all.

Date: Thurs, December 29, 2011, 02:29:36 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

2:29-3:09 of Man You Love to Hate Pure Audio Crack: guitar solo w/ bonus shredding + background. One of many presents neatly wrapped at Headquarters. That is all.

Date: Wed, December 28, 2011, 14:59:11 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Ho-ho-ho

Holy shit, a Steely Dradel?? Pics of Carolyn on all four sides, or what?
How is the shaft shaped? Or, on reflection... never mind. :D

Date: Wed, December 28, 2011, 09:14:54 ET

My best gift I got this year was a Steely Dan dradel !!!(not made out of clay)

Date: Tues, December 27, 2011, 15:05:06 ET
Posted by: Faganette, Youkay

Hey, a belated Christmas to you all!

Date: Tues, December 27, 2011, 12:59:52 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Oh Yeah, Luke, I didn't fully express appreciation:

Thanks to you, I listened to the video for True Companion about ten times in a row and it brought a big smile to me. Thanks! A great Christmas gift.

Date: Tues, December 27, 2011, 12:56:26 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Thanks to Luke for posting True Companion. Back in the 80s, for various reasons, I didn't have a good copy of it. But then I played it to death when it was re-released on the Gold-EE CD out November 1991. That timing (in my twisted listening history) combined with it's beautifully cool, crisp sound has always suggested the Christmas season to me. Ditto for Charlie Freak. SD is so delightfully subtle that you don't need there to be Steely Dan "holiday" or "Christmas" songs to hit you over the head with lyrics that are so literal.

So Merry Christmas (third day), Happy Hanukkah.

[ Sorry not to reply to the Christmas wishes. I received the gift of food poisoning for Christmas so I am just catching up. ]


Date: Tues, December 27, 2011, 00:50:44 ET
Posted by: shark de ville, florida room

thanks to Shecky for posting 'Runnin Child'

i just typed out the lyrics and learned the chords on ukulele. whee!

it's a shame shit like this didn't make it to the box set or some kind of deluxe edition reissue. come on guys... there's money to be made here!

is it a Can't Buy a Thrill outtake or what...?

Date: Mon, December 26, 2011, 23:01:33 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Nice article. Thanks for posting it, Jive.

It reveals as much about Donald as it does about Shep, I suspect.

His disdain for a respected artist attempting to win the audience over via a desperate attempt at cheap showmanship speaks volumes to me.

I hope all you Bluebirds are having a wonderful holiday season: Christmas, Chanukah, Kwanza, Yule, Me�n Gheimhridh or whatever. And I wish you all the best in the new year.

Bluebirds Singing a song nothing but bluebirds all day long:

Date: Mon, December 26, 2011, 08:25:56 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, chewing lamb chops


Freddie Hubbard: Red Clay
The Beach Boys: The SMiLE Sessions 5CD Box
Hank Mobley: No Room For Squares
Maya Vik: Ch�teau Faux-Coupe (Shuttafuckup)
Pat Metheny: What's It All About
Tony Bennett: Duets II
Bob Dylan: Christmas In The Heart

Assorted SD tracks...

Date: Sun, December 25, 2011, 21:11:47 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Every year for the last 28 years, A Christmas Story, written and narrated by the great, late Jean Shepherd has aired on TV.

Did anyone else grow up listening to Shepherd's late night rants about the "human condition" on WOR in the NY/NJ area?

Donald pays tribute in this 12/22/08 piece, from Slate Magazine:

Date: Sun, December 25, 2011, 20:22:31 ET
Posted by: Some , Loser


Date: Sun, December 25, 2011, 19:50:58 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

PGE - I have to ask. Was your house featured in "The Girl With the Dragon Tatoo"? Have you PERhaps met her? Why was there no Steely Dan music featured in a Sweden thriller? Does everyone in Sweden have such family secrets?

Here on Phraxos (if only I'd ever actually been there), intrigue is the order of the day.


Date: Sun, December 25, 2011, 19:50:56 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

PGE - I have to ask. Was your house featured in "The Girl With the Dragon Tatoo"? Have you PERhaps met her? Why was there no Steely Dan music featured in a Sweden thriller? Does everyone in Sweden have such family secrets?

Here on Phraxos (if only I'd ever actually been there), intrigue is the order of the day.


Date: Sun, December 25, 2011, 16:53:42 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Toronto

Happy Holidays to all in the SD community! Denise, thanks for the heads-up re Regattabar; used to ride my bike over the Mass Ave bridge to Cambridge all the time, just to enjoy its ivied glory...

Date: Sun, December 25, 2011, 05:40:58 ET
Posted by: Still Sparkin', Hong Kong S.A.R., China

A Merry Christmas to everyone on the Blue !

Date: Sun, December 25, 2011, 02:14:39 ET
Posted by: luke, Seattle

Don Breithaupt,

I've been spinning this all day!

Date: Sat, December 24, 2011, 22:03:01 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

Just want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all those Dan Fans out there this Christmas Eve.

May your holiday be filled with family, food, and a little sugar.

Date: Sat, December 24, 2011, 11:38:37 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown

Don Breithaupt: A club I've always liked is the Regattabar in the Charles Hotel in Cambridge, near Harvard Sq. We saw Keith Carlock's Rudder there a few years ago, so I know they are open to new music. Lots of jazz artist play there as well.

Merry Christmas to all...

Date: Sat, December 24, 2011, 11:38:33 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown

Don Breithaupt: A club I've always liked is the Regattabar in the Charles Hotel in Cambridge, near Harvard Sq. We saw Keith Carlock's Rudder there a few years ago, so I know they are open to new music. Lots of jazz artist play there as well.

Merry Christmas to all...

Date: Sat, December 24, 2011, 10:53:04 ET
Posted by: R Krieger,

Speaking of songs w/ titles beginning w/ "Runnin'", here's a contender:

Date: Sat, December 24, 2011, 07:09:25 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass

Don - I'm afraid I'm not the guy to ask re: clubs in Boston. I'm a transplant from the coast of GA...only lived in Mass now for a little over a year. Wherever you decide to play, WE WILL be there!

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!

Date: Sat, December 24, 2011, 02:08:21 ET
Posted by: Shecky, What's that down there??!?!


Date: Fri, December 23, 2011, 22:22:03 ET
Posted by: DocMu,

Don, I hear some sister chords on You on the Brain. ;) I'm off to order the CD - seriously have snippets already etching my gray matter! Great stuff.

Thurs, December 22, 2011, 16:06:07 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Toronto

JT, there will be live dates! Definitely taking Monkey House on the road in '12.

Spinning "True Companion" repeatedly today...

Date: Fri, December 23, 2011, 14:23:17 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Toronto

Josey, if I can possibly make it happen, Monkey House will be playing Boston. Love that town with all my heart + soul (my old stomping ground from my Berklee days). What's a good medium-sized club for original music?

Date: Fri, December 23, 2011, 13:59:18 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

FYI NH area dan fans - Jon Herrington's band is playing at The Brick House in Dover NH. It's a pretty small room, not my favorite venue in the area (wish they chose the Stone Church instead) but still a cool opportunity to see a band member up close and personal.

It's actually 2 minutes down the road from where I live but sadly I have a crappy gig somewhere else. Nice to see Jon giving NH love either way!

Date: Fri, December 23, 2011, 11:31:03 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass

Don - that's great news re: a tour! Please tell me said tour's coming to the Boston area!!

Date: Fri, December 23, 2011, 05:34:58 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, the North Pole or somewhere around that area

Been awfully busy working lately, so I've only been lurking around here a few times for the last few weeks.
Just want to wish everyone a happy holiday / a Merry Christmas!

Let's hope Santa Walt and/or Donald The Big Nosed Keyman brings us something nice by NEXT Christmas, at least. I'll try to be an exceptionally good boy. Ok, all is relative, it's going to be a tough one I know, but I'm sure I must have some potential for improvement. :D

Nis Natas:
Thanks for the english lesson - you're right and I'm embarrassed. ;o)

Date: Thurs, December 22, 2011, 16:11:59 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

Your welcome Don. I'm telling my friends about it too.

Date: Thurs, December 22, 2011, 16:06:07 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Toronto

JT, there will be live dates! Definitely taking Monkey House on the road in '12.

Spinning "True Companion" repeatedly today...

Date: Thurs, December 22, 2011, 07:30:36 ET
Posted by: Filtertron, Gretschoholic

"Clark continued to work with Burke but as his productions tended to be intensely easy listening, she signed with Koppelman-Rubin Associates, a Los Angeles-based music publishing and independent production company, to provide her with material with more Top 40 appeal. The submissions to Charles Koppelman and Dan Rubin for consideration for Clark to record included two songs: "Who Got the Credit" and "Bus Driver is a Fruit Cake" which if deemed suitable for Clark - which they weren't - would have been the first songs placed by Walter Becker and Donald Fagen."

Date: Thurs, December 22, 2011, 07:14:02 ET
Posted by: JIm Taylor, Baton Rouge

Don: There is only one way to pay off the album: Tour (with lots of Merch!) I told my friend that I would fly to New York, but I would rather drive to New Orelans!

Date: Wed, December 21, 2011, 22:08:02 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Toronto

Jim Taylor, Josey + HouDanFan -- thank you guys for the kudos re Monkey House / Headquarters. Not a day goes by that I don't get positive reactions to this record from musos or like-minded music fans somewhere on the globe, including Drew Zingg, who told me on FB the other day, and I quote, "Luuuuv the album!!!!" iTunes gift it to your peeps, because I'll be paying for it until I'm an old(er) man! Merry etc. No snow in Toronto...

Date: Wed, December 21, 2011, 21:23:41 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown

Happy holidays to all Danfans
and to Walaka

Date: Wed, December 21, 2011, 12:29:32 ET
Posted by: cheese, cheese

"The guy who sang the Foxwoods theme" Other wise known as "Mr. Cheese Ball"

Date: Wed, December 21, 2011, 11:42:44 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

I third Jim Taylor's post.

Date: Tues, December 20, 2011, 21:18:41 ET
Posted by: ws, k

Try this URL

Date: Tues, December 20, 2011, 21:15:13 ET
Posted by: ws, k

The guy who sang the Foxwoods theme (The Wonder of it all) has an album out with a cover of Walk Between Raindrops. Another Dangential link, his father sang on Dion's version of Ruby Baby.�€™s-1005675572.story

Date: Sun, December 18, 2011, 11:15:08 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass

I'll second Jim Taylor's post! Monkey House has one infectious groove/melody after another. I got it from Itunes...need the hard copy though!

I can't recommend this cd enough!

Date: Sun, December 18, 2011, 09:39:43 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton Rouge

Just got my copy of "Headquarters" by Monkey House in the mail. I strongly recommend. Starts off with a bang and sustains. Really wonderful stuff. Another strong advance in the war against crap. Thanks Don. P.S. Drew Zigg and Michael Leonhart are great, but there is also much more here.

Date: Sat, December 17, 2011, 20:43:51 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

I believe that is from a show that is commonly mislabeled as the DF band. I saw that listed somewhere and got very excited about an unknown era of DF performances, but alas, it's something else. Whoever uploaded probably was not aware.

Date: Sat, December 17, 2011, 19:46:17 ET
Posted by: Peter L.,

Is this posting bullshit jive?:

Fagen should take legal action if it is.

Date: Fri, December 16, 2011, 17:35:52 ET
Posted by: rurker lay, @FF

good cuz i hate drum machines and tone deaf singing.
me and him are gonna get along nicely.

Date: Fri, December 16, 2011, 11:39:05 ET
Posted by: FF, X

I've watched a lot of logothedestroyers videos. Noticed in his responses to comments that he really hates Becker's solo stuff.

Date: Thurs, December 15, 2011, 21:41:54 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston

Has anyone else seen this guy logosthedestroyer on YouTube? He makes AMAZING arrangements of some deep cuts that will satisfy nearly everyone here on the Blue.

I know there are SD covers aplenty out there, but this is some great stuff.

Shanghai Confidential -
Talkin' Bout My Home -
Mary Shut The Garden Door -

And for the record, he is not me. This is me:

You Go Where I Go:

Date: Thurs, December 15, 2011, 14:57:00 ET
Posted by: PGE, @kzkzkz

Sounding good!

Date: Thurs, December 15, 2011, 12:41:15 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, Knew Yawk

L'Image @ Iridium, NYC through 12/18; featuring Steve Gadd, Tony Levin, Mike Maineri, David Spinozza & Warren Bernhardt.

Date: Thurs, December 15, 2011, 09:40:09 ET

While I am certainly not a hater, to me the best thing about the
Doobies in any era is there name. JUST SAYIN

Date: Wed, December 14, 2011, 23:04:30 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Quick correction. I guess I should have said Simmons-Johnston driven material, as I think Tom Johnston probably played a big part in the band's sound during the early years.

Date: Wed, December 14, 2011, 22:57:04 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Speaking of Skunk---

Many years back, my brother ran into Skunk at a restaurant (I think it was at a restaurant). They chatted briefly and my brother blurted out something along the lines of "Why did you leave a great band like Steely Dan to join the Doobie Brothers?" As my brother describes it, as soon as he asked the questions he was immediately embarrassed for doing so. Then he noticed the guy sitting with Skunk was Patrick Simmons. He felt like a total asshole.

For what it's worth, Skunk gave pretty much the standard response: He wanted to work/play and SD wasn't really giving him that opportunity on a regular enough basis.

I'm probably in the minority on this forum, but I like the early Simmons-driven Doobies far more than the Mike M focused material they began playing after he and Skunk joined. That isn't to say they didn't do some really good stuff with Mike and Skunk (and Skunk always sounds good to me) but it just wasn't the same for me.

I hope you are all enjoying the holiday season.

Date: Wed, December 14, 2011, 15:00:15 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, On The Quick

Couldn't agree more Pixeleen - YES Happy Birthday Skunk!

Perhaps I'm in the minority here,

But we've had Larry sit in on numerous dates in
the past 2 tours and so has Steve Winwood this year.
Elliot Randall sat in 2009 and Bonnie Raitt in 2006.
And Denny and Dean Parks have both sat in on numerous

I'd love to see Skunk sit in. Bury the hatchet.

Stranger things have happened this year ;O)

Date: Tues, December 13, 2011, 19:56:46 ET
Posted by: ws, k

Allegedly Dangential obituary.

Date: Tues, December 13, 2011, 12:09:26 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,

Happy 63rd Birthday, Skunk.......and many more !!

Date: Sun, December 11, 2011, 04:34:06 ET
Posted by: PGE, Snowbound in Sweden

@Nicholas Urfe:
No, I haven't written any books. Yet.

Like you I'm enjoying Kate Bush lastest. Perfect for the season/weather where I live.

Don't know if you've heard this, but in an interview with Jamie Cullum on BBC Kate praised Steve Gadd and also briefly touched upon liking Steely Dan. Always nice to hear an artist that you like enjoy the same music as you do!

Here's the four minute Gadd/Steely Dan discussion:

Date: Fri, December 09, 2011, 18:09:56 ET
Posted by: Michael Greco, New York


Our STEELY DAN tribute band is performing Saturday, December 10th at 9PM in Farmingdale, NY! We are playing the "AJA" album in its entirety to celebrate 35 years, plus a ton of other hits! Here are some links for more information on the event and our band! If you are a true lover of Donald and Walter, you WILL love this show, we promise!

Here's our promo video on YOUTUBE::




Date: Fri, December 09, 2011, 16:30:32 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

PGE, is this you?

By the way, 50 Words for Snow is sounding nice this holiday season.

Date: Fri, December 09, 2011, 11:18:17 ET
Posted by: TO Danfan, High class in borrowed shoes

Hey SS Kim Mitchell was retro 20 years ago. Today Kim is the afternoon drive jock on the local classic rock station Q107 and still goes out on tour. He is quite popular in Europe and performs at some of the biggest festivals there.

The club scene in early '70s Toronto was fantastic. Live acts everywhere in every genre. I can't count the number of times we saw Kim with his band Max Webster,Rush (sans Neil Peart), Downchild, Ronnie Hawkins, Rough Trade, Moe Kauffman, etc. etc. at great bars like Abbey Road, Gasworks, Nickelodeon, El Mocambo, George`s, Picadilly Tube, Larry`s Hideaway,Horseshoe,Embassy and many others. What a great era that was....oh the memories(or lack of!)


Date: Fri, December 09, 2011, 03:35:43 ET
Posted by: SS, HK

Dandom's classic rock experts, Don B, or any Canadians on this board will know Kim Mitchell. I bet you're having fun playing with those guys. I saw Kim at the PNE in Vancouver about 20 years ago - he was almost retro then !

Date: Thurs, December 08, 2011, 12:41:29 ET
Posted by: Effen, A

Don't you hate when a look at the lyrics sheet costs you one of your favorites?

When Black Friday comes I'm gonna stake my claim
Against Wilt Chamberlain

Date: Thurs, December 08, 2011, 02:45:42 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -


Having worked with Michael Leonhart, what are your thoughts on him producing the next Fagen album? What could he bring to the Maestro's table?


Misheard lyric:

And if Dave from acquisitions
Wants to get in on the action
With his handy cameltoe



What are you listening to this xmas season?

Date: Thurs, December 08, 2011, 00:04:19 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

I have to assume "Beach Boys" was just a little play on words and not a misheard lyric--I just have to.

Date: Wed, December 07, 2011, 15:40:54 ET
Posted by: Give me the Beach Boys, and free my soul

RIP Dobie Gray.

Date: Tues, December 06, 2011, 17:42:00 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton Rouge

Hubert Sumlin. I misspelled his name!

Date: Tues, December 06, 2011, 17:35:20 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton Rouge

Don: My new computer wont recognize Blue Book's e-mail system. Could you e-mail me about getting the "deluxe" "hard" copy of "Headquarters"? While I am at it I also would like to get a "hard" copy of "True Winter' which has been playing non-stop on my "My space" player. My e-mail is web mail so you should be able to get it from my handle at the top of this e-mail. Thanks. If not e-mail me on Facebook.I should have a friend request in.

On a sadder note, I noticed that Hubert Summlin died:

As far as I know, the last living sideman of Howlin' Wolf is now Henry Gray, a keyboard player who lives in Baton Rouge, and still plays

I think the Dangentialness is obvious.Jim.

Date: Tues, December 06, 2011, 16:09:36 ET

Re-reading Bob Woodwards Wired and came to a passage where Belushi
storms off a movie set into his trailer, the director goes after him
and found him blaring "Hey19", then told the director he wanted to do
a moviebased on the song. It would be about a child of the sixties
who tried to explain the importance of the decade to a punk rocker.
When the song was over, John rewound the tape and played it again and again, pounding the table in front of him like a set of drums
The director deduced he was on some kind of drug combo platter-
probably cocaine for high and quaaludes for down.DONE BABBLING

Date: Tues, December 06, 2011, 09:47:49 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Don, I will second bassicinstinct's praise. Nice tune, great performance. A bit Zappaesque to my mind.

I have some great memories of the Tralf (old and new). Way back in the day, when the Tralf was a basement hole on Main Street, we would drive from Niagara Falls to see Spyro Gyra for $1. They were very different for that time, and quite good.

The new "nice" Tralf also has a place in my heart. My favorite experience may be when friends and I saw the David Grisman Quintet and had drinks with two of the members (who will remain unnamed) after the show. We gave them some mushrooms and I believe they gave us some hash. Memory is a bit fuzzy as you can imagine.

Ah--good times, when we were young and very irresponsible.

Date: Tues, December 06, 2011, 09:00:02 ET
Posted by: bassicinstinct, Nottingham UK


Absolutely LOVE that Kim Mitchell track.

Great stuff!!

Date: Tues, December 06, 2011, 02:19:29 ET
Posted by: @DonBreithaupt, Toronto

Music Fan, glad you're digging "The Man You Love To Hate" (from my new Monkey House album). That's not Drew Z -- he's killing on track two, "Where's Mantis Evar?" -- but Canadian guitar legend Kim Mitchell. Dandom's classic rock experts may know Kim as the lead guitarist, singer and songwriter of the seventies glam/prog band Max Webster. Full disclosure: I'm currently in Kim's band. This is us at the Tralf in Buffalo last year!

Date: Mon, December 05, 2011, 15:52:50 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy

What a weekend with Levon!

Date: Mon, December 05, 2011, 11:47:23 ET
Posted by: Just lurking,

Thank you to everyone for the comments here. Even when they are heated--or even erroneous--I get more appreciation for Steely Dan!

Date: Mon, December 05, 2011, 10:37:20 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Sorry Bob. I thought it was mildly amusing. Didn't mean to waste your time.

Date: Mon, December 05, 2011, 10:07:47 ET
Posted by: bob, not your Uncle

Hutch,If you're going to make us go to a link, make it worth it please.

Date: Sun, December 04, 2011, 21:11:25 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly

So just looking at that montage on on the tour wrap-up... anyone know which band or crew member experienced the "one denied visa"?

Date: Sun, December 04, 2011, 11:45:48 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Looks just like him!

So, this new DF album. I'm thinking a Spring release. Really looking forward to this one... with Michael Leonhart on board co-producing and recording it should be pretty cutting edge. Probably very groove/funk oriented if the stuff I hear on Michael's site is any indication. The result of putting these two musical heads together should be something worth waiting for next year.

Date: Sat, December 03, 2011, 23:05:08 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown

Tour photo montage up on

Date: Sat, December 03, 2011, 14:55:41 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton Rouge

Back2: OS. Why else would Dave from Acquisitions be invited with his handicam in tow to get in on the action?

Date: Sat, December 03, 2011, 13:02:25 ET
Posted by: Chet, R

I'm predicting (well actually stating what it will take for me to purchase) the 40th anniversay compilation will include something previously unheard and unleaked.

Date: Sat, December 03, 2011, 11:34:04 ET
Posted by: back2bass6,

Question..."frankly i could use a little face time, in the service elevator..."

having a bit of a discussion about the interpretation of this. My buddy thinks its an oral sex thing, I am thinking its an escape route..

talk to me.

Date: Sat, December 03, 2011, 09:41:30 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,

The Dean -

He definitely seems a narcissistic sigaretta.:)

Date: Sat, December 03, 2011, 09:35:33 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, Brightonia

In fact, listening again it sounds more like 'Greetings Grafters!' which makes sense as its followed by 'the work seduces us with light'

Date: Sat, December 03, 2011, 09:30:31 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, @One Against Nature

I would love to come, I will see what I can do. Always nice to see more Danbands popping up in the UK.

Just a couple of points to the rest of you, nobody has come back with a place that evokes the spirit of The Dan. Come on, especially you on the west of the pond, its easier for you guys as The Dan haven't really written a song about GB yet.

Unless you count 'Snowbound'. Yes, I really thought that Donald had thrown in a bit of British slang there but it turned out to be a misheard lyric. If you watch the video it does back up my misconception. For all the world I can hear 'Evening grafters, says a voice without a smile' This is supported by the fact the Donald, who is some kind of Big Brother figure in the video addresses the workers from his big screen. In British slang, grafting is slang for working and grafters, workers. I was sad to find he was actually singing 'A critic grabs us'

Date: Sat, December 03, 2011, 07:27:19 ET
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Date: Sat, December 03, 2011, 00:53:02 ET
Posted by: Et , Tu?

Like there's a new JH link but I'm happier I learned about Arthur "Ask Arthur about relationships and life" Kade. I have a long list and sure he'll have the answers.

Date: Fri, December 02, 2011, 21:07:57 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Greg - What a great journey you've been on and now look where it's come to! Congratulations. Nice feather in your cap! The video is superb.

Date: Fri, December 02, 2011, 20:46:12 ET
Posted by: Greg, Dunedin

Mr Q, yes just a humble, but extremely dedicated and lucky fan. Dedicated in that I've followed SD and Becker/Fagen from afar since the 70s and drive my family mad with my play lists (like many of you I'm sure). Lucky in that I was fortunate to find out about Hoops's email list many many years ago and link with some other local fans, that SD decided to tour Aussie/NZ not once but twice enabling me to now have seen them live 5 times, that I was fortunate to sit amongst the band at a lounge in Melbourne airport after their 2008 concert and K Carlock, J Herrington, M Leonhart, J Pugh and W Weiskopf signed my never-to-be-worn SD tee-shirt, that digital cameras are so small nowadays and take pretty good video to the point that SD management link my little movie to their website home page.

And thanks to all those other fans who post their personal stories, pics, videos and links.


Date: Fri, December 02, 2011, 20:13:58 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Brutus, thanks for linking the JH interview. Herington as always is gracious and articulate. It really is a pleasure to hear him talk about his music and that of The Dan.

With that said, who the fuck is Arthur Kade? Based on his site, he seems like a self-absorbed dude obsessed with celebrity and celebrities. Quite the opposite of Don and Walt (and I would imagine Jon).

Date: Fri, December 02, 2011, 18:13:05 ET
Posted by: One Against Nature, Herts, UK

For all you Danfans in the south east of England, come and see Stanley Dee (a tribute to your faves) at The Horns in Watford on Thursday 8th December. Should be a good night with two sets of great Dan songs being recreated live by a 10-piece band.

Fagenette, there's a train from East Croydon to Watford so expect to see you there too.

Date: Fri, December 02, 2011, 17:06:38 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,

Nice new and live interview w/ Jon Herington:

Date: Fri, December 02, 2011, 10:18:57 ET
Posted by: Mr, Q


The question of the hour.

Are you a fan?

Date: Fri, December 02, 2011, 01:26:46 ET
Posted by: Greg, Dunedin

Hi Carl and Lurker Ray. My Auckland concert video posted on the Steely Dan home page is definitetly an amateur production I shot from row 2 in front of the Embassy Brats.


Date: Thurs, December 01, 2011, 22:41:20 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly

Dean, I do believe you should be hired as a writer for The Simpsons -- your ability to co-mingle Ken-L Ration, Soylent Green, Cracker Barrel, and last but not least Steely Dan into one quasi-logical post proves you've got what it takes... hats off to you.

Date: Thurs, December 01, 2011, 21:19:09 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Just askin', excellent observation.

Date: Thurs, December 01, 2011, 20:28:12 ET
Posted by: Just askin', lll

Would that be the "my dog's better than your dog"* jingle?

* Dangential reference: Dog eat dog.

Date: Thurs, December 01, 2011, 19:16:29 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Anyone else notice the similarity between the song in the new Cracker Barrel Commercial and the old Ken L Ration dog food jingle?

How is this Dangential? Dunno. But maybe, on occasion while on tour, the boys stop at a Cracker Barrel late at night. I'd hate to think they are eating dog food. They're PEOPLE! Steely Dan is PEOPLE!*

*Apologies to Stanley R. Greenberg and Charlton Heston.

Date: Thurs, December 01, 2011, 15:50:56 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

The recordings on are clearly audience recordings. Who is to say if the people doing the recordings aren't "fans"? Hell, I imagine many of the professionals who record The Dan's studio stuff are actually "fans" as well.

Date: Thurs, December 01, 2011, 15:42:37 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Glen Lake


Second Arrangement Live

American Lovers Live

This All Too Mobile Home Live

Audience recordings on

Date: Thurs, December 01, 2011, 15:41:04 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Glen Lake


Let me ty again Mr. Carl.

First off, you don't have to be such a "big macher" to get an all
"Assess" pass. Many people who get them ARE in fact "fans".
A few even post here.

Again, these videos are hardly "Pro-shot".

And like I said before, there are videos from two (ie: 2 different shows) up at Carl. Did you miss that?

And finally, ALL of the 3 videos were posted to Vimio & YouTube
DAYS before they were ever posted to Hardly top
secret "All Assess" stuff.

But if it will make you feel any better, then please allow me to reword my initial post:

Date: Thurs, December 01, 2011, 14:35:38 ET
Posted by: Carl, sydney australia

Because I was at that show and I saw the person who was filming that. Plus fans don't have gigantic All Assess Passes around their necks and get to stand next to the stage with a video camera.

Date: Thurs, December 01, 2011, 13:08:42 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Glen Lake

That's funny Carl,

Cuz there is actually 3 recordings posted at

All with some what jerky framing, not terrific sound and clearly labeled "Audience Recordings". And all fist posted to "public video sites".

I would assume anyone "recording" at a Steely Dan show would be a fan.

I don't get your post Carl?

Date: Thurs, December 01, 2011, 12:54:53 ET
Posted by: Carl, sydney australia

Lurker Ray- That was NOT a "fan recording".

Date: Thurs, December 01, 2011, 12:51:40 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Glen Lake


Second Arrangement Live

American Lovers Live

This All Too Mobile Home Live

Fan recordings on

Date: Thurs, December 01, 2011, 11:56:12 ET
Posted by: Christian Weston Chandler, Ruckersville, VA

Does anyone know if Walter and Donald
ever said that they were influenced by Crosby, Stills and Nash?
Parts of Change of the Guard sound
eerily similar to the verses of CSN's Pre Road Downs.

"I have kissed you, so I'll miss you..."

"All you cowboys and your neighbors..."

Date: Thurs, December 01, 2011, 10:38:21 ET
Posted by: Greg, Dunedin but currently in Vietnam

I'm unashamedly proud to note that my YouTube posting from the Auckland concert has just been linked onto Steely Dan's home page. Next challenge is to see whether any of the Hanoi locals recognize the tee-shirts I'm wearing. Lots of Muzak over here.

Date: Thurs, December 01, 2011, 00:24:42 ET
Posted by: Heads Up!, down up here

New Steely Dan newsletter out and audience shot video (!) of the dan and winwood on the home page. Good stuff!

Date: Wed, November 30, 2011, 23:49:54 ET
Posted by: Prickly Pear, Bognor Regis

Does anyone have the set-lists for the following Steely Dan shows that they can post here?

November 02, 2011 - Wellington, NZ
November 05, 2011 - Napier, NZ

Date: Wed, November 30, 2011, 21:49:22 ET
Posted by: Music Fan, Flying Over America

To Don @MonkeyHouse. I'm really digging The Man You Love To Hate. There's some interesting Slang of Ages vibe going on. And if that's Drew Zingg on guitar, his playing is awesome. And the horns really kick it. What a well-crafted song.

Date: Wed, November 30, 2011, 19:52:21 ET
Posted by: ws, k

Here's an article on a duo called Marbin, which the author calls "sort of a Jewish version of Walter Becker and Donald Fagen." Apparently he thinks Don and Walt are a couple of black guys.

Date: Wed, November 30, 2011, 16:13:47 ET
Posted by: Ted Tangiers,

Hey Halifax Loan -

Could you be, would you be the (Mr.)George referenced in the Dan's nascent tune "Let George Do It"? If not, why the f*** are you posting here?

Date: Wed, November 30, 2011, 13:45:18 ET
Posted by: Halifax Loan, london


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Date: Wed, November 30, 2011, 13:38:53 ET
Posted by: Halifax Loan, london


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Date: Wed, November 30, 2011, 11:48:37 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Interesting Wall Street Journal article today:

Also, I didn't see the '54 Strat here, but who knows:

Date: Wed, November 30, 2011, 04:24:20 ET
Posted by: Philippe, Pau France

Hello shark deville, I bought Thomas Jefferson Kaye lp in the early 80's in a small records store in Lyon France and was instantly hooked on "American lovers" and its typical Dan intro. Just like I was hooked on "Proud to be your slave" that someone kindly posted here weeks ago. There are still a few "Dangentiel" songs I would love to hear such as Root boy Slim's album.
In France we have a division of Rhino records and they do a tremendous work with boxsets for Donny Hattaway, Bill "Livin'it up" LaBounty (I bet you don't know that guy),Chic, Michael Franks, they are Dan fans but as the Dan boxset has already been made, I wish they could release a Dangential compilation with such rarities. I'll do my best to convince them, I promise.
And just like I said before, do yourself a favor and get Marc Jordan's two first albums, you won't regret it.
Have a nice day.

Date: Tues, November 29, 2011, 16:24:47 ET
Posted by: shark deville, laughing at the frozen rain

thanks for the hey 19 heads-up on youtube. cool stuff... it's a shame we can't hear more stripped-down things like this.

i've always felt the Manassas '96 version of Wet Side Story was an absolutely perfect take. would love to hear it cleaned up a little bit.

love the Thomas Kaye tracks. 'Jones' is my favorite. LOVE that one. I was wondering how many people knew 'American Lovers' when they busted it out at the Beacon.

Date: Mon, November 28, 2011, 18:11:26 ET
Posted by: Don, Of All People???


Date: Mon, November 28, 2011, 17:58:00 ET
Posted by: Steamer Heaven, On top w/ the Gunk

Don - Remastered Wetside would be wonderful! I love that song. Keep us up to date!

Fall into Animal Time!

Date: Mon, November 28, 2011, 16:49:20 ET
Posted by: Don_Breithaupt, Toronto

Thinking about mastering that live bootleg of "Wet Side Story" into more listenable condition and posting somewhere. Stay tuned...

Re Monkey House | Headquarters:
Thanks to Josey, Doc Mu, Gina/Mizar6, Unka T-Razz + Philippe for recent raves/support. The album is getting good traction out there in the wide world, especially among Dan fans (listen to the samples on iTunes and you'll see why).

The original shameless BB blurb, one more time:
<<<Steely Dan vets Michael Leonhart and Drew Zingg are among the musical guests on my brand new Monkey House album, Headquarters, which is now available at the U.S. and Canadian iTunes stores. Clocking in at over an hour, Headquarters is a harmonically rich song cycle whose musical DNA will be obvious to fans of not only Steely Dan, but Boz Scaggs, Michael Franks, Little Feat and Elvis Costello. Alma Records, a jazz imprint distributed by Warner Brothers in the U.S. and Universal Music in Canada, has licensed the album, and will follow the current soft [digital] release with a worldwide traditional release in March. Other musical guests on Headquarters include Marc Jordan, Rik Emmett, Kim Mitchell and former Pat Metheny Group member David Blamires. Thought you guys would want to know!>>>


Date: Mon, November 28, 2011, 01:32:18 ET
Posted by: wxyeohxe, New York

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Date: Sun, November 27, 2011, 20:40:06 ET
Posted by: Cerpin Taxt, Boston!

Wow! What treats we've had on the bluebook lately. Thanks to everyone for sharing. Really digging the 8-bit TBTLO.

I downloaded those Thomas Jefferson Kaye tracks a few weeks ago, and "American Lovers" is really growing on me. Better than Dallas/Sail The Waterway, IMO. Anyways, NOW it's a real treat to watch SD perform this from rarities night! A little context does ya good...

Date: Sun, November 27, 2011, 20:34:35 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Princeton and/or Philly

Fagenette - Thank you -- it's always good to know people are actually reading my stuff!

Date: Sun, November 27, 2011, 18:32:32 ET
Posted by: Napoleon, U.K

Never has Throw Back the Little Ones sounded so soothing and sinister at the same time

Date: Sun, November 27, 2011, 09:34:16 ET
Posted by: RD, RR

Early Hey Nineteen mix with backing vocals and other stuff missing. Interesting to hear Don singing it by himself.

Date: Sat, November 26, 2011, 18:54:51 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass

Don Breithaupt - I just finished listening to "You On The Brain" for the second time...Man, that is one catchy tune!! Plan on purchasing from Itunes! Nice!

Date: Sat, November 26, 2011, 00:52:36 ET
Posted by: cj55,


Date: Fri, November 25, 2011, 20:47:22 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Steelydoc - Yes I was wondering the same thing. Just noticed it the other day. Could mean more photos from the tour... or it could mean "We ain't givin' up yet folks. See you next year"!!

Date: Fri, November 25, 2011, 17:29:46 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, When Black Friday falls

Wow, Don Headquarters is absolutely fantastic! I really love the soundscape and the chord changes on You on the Brain. Do I hear a bit of the True Companion end chords just after the bridge? Very tasty piano solo outtro dancing around the chorus line Really clever stuff.

Danfans might also want to stuff their stockings with Malcolm Hunter's Nostalgia in my Square Head. Put on your Pork Pie Hat that's not so flat, as Malcolm is back with that Dan-esque sound that permeated the NYC Bowery back at the turn of the millenium

The superbly tight band and champions of harmony feature Dan band notables Jon Herington and Michael Leonhart at their best along with John Di Giulio on drums and Melissa Hamilton on some fine backing vocals. Check their altered bluesfest New One out now on a Facebook site near you.

No Kissin' features a nasty backbeat, extended trumpet solos, scat a tat tat, and jams around vocal harmonies and snappy keyboard vamps. Heavy R&B melodies and call and response. No kissin - Love in the city in the new century!

Invisible man screams, no whispers and slinks the city late, late at night in the Beat City. Cool and Mingus permeate the recordings, like Nostalgia in my Insomniac Mind where the post-modern post 9/11 and Osama world is the ether and the cool, wet streets under streetlight are the real thing. Tom Smith's tasty Trane channeling sax on Times Square filers down that late 50s jazz groove over some Mizar. Wreckage on Aisle 50 a familiar most Dan-like backbeat and chord strategy and the title track a lottle of WUNDerground sass. It's all good - enjoy.

Date: Fri, November 25, 2011, 10:29:09 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower

hello one and all:

did anyone notice on where it says: 3 seasons, 2 hemispheres, and 63 gigs later...
that underneath it says:

(more coming soon...)

hmmm what could that mean?

Date: Thurs, November 24, 2011, 20:21:35 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -


Why can't we all be friends? Why do iHeads and Droids have to fight? As a matter of fact I am writing this from an Android. Not shabby at a


Oops, sorry about that. As I was saying; not shabby at all. It is time we end this silly war of the nerds. Aren't we too ma


Oh, back again. Aren't we too mature for this sort of nonsense? All devices are created equal and should be res


Dammit; should be respected for what they are.

Date: Thurs, November 24, 2011, 14:09:15 ET
Posted by: Nis Natas,

Jazzassin - "Spookiness"... drop the y add i. Great analysis, though...

Date: Thurs, November 24, 2011, 06:52:44 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, iWhat?

Fagenette, please come in and sit down!

fagenism, multitasking?
Please get yourself an Android surfboard! Or is it too much fun with the iThing now that they finally gave it native flash support after all? ;-)
I,m sorry, I just couldn't resist. iBullying iHeads is a favorite iHobby of mine.
Maybe I'm just pissed because everytime I want to install iTunes on a Windows machine, the EULA says I cannot use it to manufacture chemical, biological, nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction. Like my favorite blogger Maddox says; If I want to make weapons of mass destruction with my copy of iTunes, I will, fascists!

Date: Thurs, November 24, 2011, 06:33:09 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Re: tritone

Yes, context is of course very important. And in some compositions/songs the tritone interval is deliberately accentuated, i.e. like sometimes when a phrase/melody line starts, or even better, ends with a note that has a tritone interval's distance from the root, or jumps straight from the root to that note. If the tritone interval is accentuated in one way or another, that's when the spookyness of it often appears.

Date: Thurs, November 24, 2011, 06:31:59 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -


Glad to have you onboard! And a good nick too.

For future reference, I approve the following possible nicks:

- My Kamakiri
- Sloe-eyed Creature
- (c) Keith Jarrett
- Psycho-Mom



The BlueBook post form has some glitches when running Safari for iPad. If you write something, do a lil multitasking, then return to do the finishing touches before submitting... It's all gone! (Would assume this applies to iPhone too?)

Date: Thurs, November 24, 2011, 06:20:39 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, Brighton, Old Albion

Aha, Joan, my twin sister! I know who you are now, I read your wonderful Catnip review a while back and wished I'd been there.

Date: Thurs, November 24, 2011, 04:47:08 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, Brighton, UK

OK, I don't want to butt in on the Green Book convo, I will add my tuppence in when I've had another listen to ETMG, its been a while.

For now, can I ask you all if there are any places that evoke the Dan for you. For me, this place does

Yes, its a cheesy take on a Jazz room in Dubai with a Manhattan mural behind the bar but when I lived in the UAE for five years you have to get your kicks when and where you can find them. In fact, I saw a band there that did a couple of SD covers much to my joy. You shouldve seen the locals in their dishdashas look of puzzlement and frustration that the band had stopped playing Sade songs.

Date: Thurs, November 24, 2011, 01:57:29 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, Brighton, UK

Security Joan, I will always be your evil British twin but it was confusing poor Don when he flies into Blighty so the name change was needed! He started seeing those big balloons again, such was the stress.

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 22:27:14 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly

Fagenette, I like that name, has a nice ring! Although I'm feeling a little nostalgic about *almost* being someone's evil twin across the pond. Alas.

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 22:22:22 ET
Posted by: tritone,

Well, any sort of polyphony was outlawed by several cultures for centuries for being evil too, which ruled out tritones as well as any other interval.
A tritone is part of every dominant seven chord (major 3rd to minor 7th), so it's been used in jazz since forever, but also skilled classical composers from previous centuries slipped it in all the time.
Context is so important.

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 22:01:24 ET
Posted by: names,

Fagenette is great, and original, as far as I remember.

Good work. You can eat now.

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 20:12:05 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, Brighton, UK

Hello fellow Danheads,

Thanks for your suggestions, I certainly feel more welcome here now and don't worry about being snarky, you can't love the Dan and not love a bit of snarky too..

Now, I like your suggestions but Fagen is my man (I love you too, Walt) so I was thinking Fagenette. If this has been taken by another then I quite like Bleecker Street Brat. Once I have been baptised into this DanClan then I am ready to start talking with you guys on a subject that bores the arses off my family..(not bloody Steely Dan again, they say) Solice is found in the Blue Book.

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 19:02:36 ET
Posted by: Hutch, by the way

Jazzassin - Really enjoyed that analysis. Spot on. And after playing that shit on my guitar I can see why they'd want to burn you at the stake!

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 18:12:34 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, more names

Marilyn 4.0
Miss Fugazy

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 17:46:08 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Oh Joan, there are lots of possibilities...

French Twist
Big Blonde
Hello Kitty
Jane Street
Little Eva
Tuesday Weld

Welcome to the Blue Book! Hope you'll stick around. We can be a bit snarky at times but we surely love our Steely Dan.

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 17:24:58 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly

Pleased to meet you Heathrow-Security Joan, or ex-Security Joan! I have an idea... you know how in the U.S. we do month/day & in the U.K. you do day/month? You could be Joan Security. Plus, it would add to that alternate universe thing. (Haven't you always wanted an evil twin?)

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 16:43:42 ET
Posted by: roots play IGY on Jimmy Fallon,

Going into the first commercial break, the Roots started playing a super tasty version of IGY with guest keyboardist Greg Phillinganes.

Would love to hear the whole song.

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 15:19:41 ET
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Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 14:23:46 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -

Ex-Security Joan:

Little Eva?

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 13:07:06 ET
Posted by: Your call! (was Security Joan), Brighton, UK

First of all, Happy Thanksgiving to you all!

Now, it looks like I'm going to have to choose another handle as Security Joan is already taken. Is there any way of finding out whats gone and what's not? I guess the obvious ones have, maybe even 'Woolly Man without a face' which I like except I'm a woman..what about 'Woolly Woman?' although that doesn't paint a very nice picture, does it.

Anyway, I hope you don't mind me joining you, you're probably quite a tight knit group as devoted fan bases on the net are but trust me, I'm a devoted Danfan by anyones standards, in fact its no lie that they have got me through difficult times in life, one of which I'm going through right now.

But thats enough about me. What handle should I use? I don't like Woolly Woman before you ask so any suggestions. I'm British and female if that helps.

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 11:12:41 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, by the oven

Gobble gobble e1!

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 06:59:10 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, rainbound

Thanks for the kind words, folks. Glad you liked it.

Happy Thanksgiving to all fans in the US! King Harvest (has surely come).

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 03:14:11 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -


Wonderful read as always!

As a sidenote I find Jack of Speed (subject matter, production) and Third World Man (historical significance) to be among The Dan's spookier cuts.

Date: Wed, November 23, 2011, 00:26:39 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Heathrow, Brighton, UK

I'm Security Joan, Heathrow now to avoid confusion :-)

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 23:20:54 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Jazzassin, That was a hell of a read. Even if I only understood parts of it :#) I enjoyed the hell out of it.

Will the real Security Joan please stand up (please stand up). Actually, Joan (the real Joan) that was pretty damn funny.

I think the vocalist in mic-a-fone-jack needs to lose the microphone, Jack. With all the autotune and such on the loose, I wonder why he didn't adjust his voice to be, well, tolerable.

Happy T-Give to ya.

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 22:07:31 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Alternate Universe - a.k.a. Philly

I just realized there are two of us here! Just for the record, I'm from the universe where Spock doesn't have a goatee.

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 17:19:55 ET
Posted by: Gina/Mizar6, Sun Mountain

It's all about peripheral Dan these days, it seems. Loads of music, Malcolm Hunter aka YGK from the Yellow, has released Nostalgia in My Square Head, an All About Jazz review will soon be available.. he's got Jon Herington, Michael Leonhart on it, and an entire cast of fine musicians. Anyone into j a z z should check out his adaption of Mingus' Nostalgia in Times Square, you can find 9 tunes on Soundcloud, look for Malcolm Hunter!

And Don Breithaupt and his new Monkey House album, stellar 3x and then some. I think Terramara, Rob Meany (anyone remember this band from Prince's turf Minneapolis..?), John Tabacco and Stephen Bishop in the vocal department, by comparison. And Marc Jordan, who co-wrote Lebanon, fine fine song that one :-). Anyway, this did persuade me to dust off Mizar5-Mizar6 again, because there is still a lot to -re-cover, whether straight from some source(s) or peripheral, and despite the social media and all, it's just not the same, so i'm returning to the old format especially to offer some easy to find digital writings about all the musicalities happening upon us in these last weeks of 2011.

Also just downloaded and listened to Usage Panel, the Andy Metzger music. Visited their facebook page and could finally put a face to a name that back when i first entered the steely internet world was a major one :-). There's not a shred of Steely music in any of the 5 songs the EP offers, except perhaps for Randall shredding some his signature way?


Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 16:53:48 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, off the tracks

To me they don't have more in common than most Dan & Don songs from the last 18 years.
The things that makes Green Book special for me is only present to a much lesser degree on TeahouseOTT and vica versa i think.

Teahouse is lovely on it's own premises, though.

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 16:32:15 ET
Posted by: Gf1, East

Teahouse on the Tracks.

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 16:09:27 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, yo

Re: Green Book rap thing.... I want to say something about it, but I know in advance it would only increase my feeling of having become my own father, so I will refrain.
Let's just say I'm not very into rap, so I haven't much of an opinion to offer.

Any particular song on Kama you have in mind?

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 16:06:47 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Brighton, UK

Even if its a solo gig in NY next year, I'm there!

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 15:45:56 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Sorry for the double post - thanks for that explanation Jazzassasin, I loves me some tri-tones.

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 15:45:19 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Gf1, which song on Kama are you referring to? I can't think of any that sound like Green Book to me ...

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 15:30:01 ET
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Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 15:23:16 ET
Posted by: Gf1, East

Green Book would have been better if it hadn't been used on Kamakiriad.

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 15:21:50 ET
Posted by: pj, boston

Jazzassin- Dang! Is that just horrible or what! It sounds like Run DMC over dosing on steroids! And that hideous cat screeching during the Greenbook part. Just awful! I hope SD takes them to the cleaners for this!

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 14:50:31 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, again

I found we're supposed to click the blue link saying "Mic-A-Fone Jack".
It's a rap thing with Green Book in it.
Or try this link:

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 14:39:56 ET
Posted by: pj, boston

Enimen, aka Unka T-Razz - What's up with that link you put up? What is the purpose of it? Why am I wasting my time going to it?

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 13:51:58 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Re: The Green Book

Diabolus in musica or What makes The Green Book such a sinister song?

Several fans have expressed their love and fascination for The Green Book lately, a love and fascination that I share 100%.

I don't think too many of you will disagree that it has a certain spookyness to it, a kind of restless, unstable tension that brings to mind the type of melodies and chords commonly used in film music when a main character is sneaking upon someone, someone is sneaking upon her/him, or the director just wants to tell us that something bad may happen just around the next corner.
This is not a random similarity. The Green Book has the devil in it.

If you hate musical theory and/or history, stop reading here.
If you're curious about the devil in music, please continue ...

The Tritone. This is the term for a musical interval composed of three whole tones, or if you will, six semitones, since in our traditional western chromatic scale, we divide each whole tone into two semitones.

Tritone example: The interval from F to B. Start with an F, then count your way up the scale. The first whole tone after F is G, the second is A, and the third whole tone is B. The interval from F to B is what's known as the Tritone interval.
If you count further upwards in one whole tone steps you'll bypass C# and Eb only to end up on F as the third whole tone from B. Same Tritone interval.*
The same three whole tone (Tritone) interval can of course be made based on any given note.

(* Music theorists amongst you knows that in the modern harmony system it's commonly named augumented fourth or diminished fifth)

Anyone with an instrument at hand can try to play this interval, whether you play the two notes that defines your Tritone interval one after another or together makes no difference, the result will always appear disturbed and spooky. This interval is the main interval of dissonance in western harmony.

The interval was avoided by composers for nearly fourteen hundred years from early middle age (c.500) to the beginning of the 20th century because of its dissonance. It was considered an awkward interval to sing, and was believed to be a dangerous interval associated with the devil himself. Music historians seems to disagree a bit about when exactly the term �Diabolus in musica� (the Devil in music) was used for the first time. Some suggests it was as far back as in the middle age, others disagree, but at least there is written sources from year 1725 that uses this expression. In some cases composers were executed for using it in their music, accused of being witches.

Times have changed. Modern composers tend to disregard its awkwardness and rather exploit its expressiveness. It's now widely used in many genres like jazz, rock and contemporary music.
This does not mean that it's no longer percieved as dangerous or sinister, on the contrary - it's commonly used for exactly that purpose. Film music is one example, another is several sub-genres of metal music. After Black Sabbath's guitarist Tony Iommi made a whole career for himself and his band based on the Tritone interval, thousands of thrash metal, speed metal, black metal, death metal and whatever-metal bands all over the world has been cloning his riffs, speeding them up, further distorted them and generally played them in all possible incarnations.
What really makes that music dark is primarily the Tritone, not the fact that they often tune their guitars lower than the usual way, uses 7-string guitars & mega-distortion effects and screams �Die in hell� for lyrics. No Tritone, no scary metal.

The Tritone interval is no stranger to Steely Dan either. They have used it many times, but never before to the extent like that of The Green Book.
The Green Book is dripping of Tritone intervals, it's marinated in Tritone intervals. The melody and the harmonies jumps around in all directions from Tritone to Tritone like a hellhound commanded by the whip of Keith Carlock's �no mercy beat� - there's hardly anything but Tritones going on in there.

Scrape the surface of that green cover, and you'll find the book is really black as a starless night. And pure magic it is.

Thanks, Don and Walt. We shall never see your equals.

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 10:31:21 ET
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Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 10:25:12 ET

Security Joan, I would be shocked if they tour again next year
I hope you are right and I am not, just dont see it. What does
everyone else think??? Ny 2 cents: favorite 21 century Dan:
Lunch with Gina and Pixileen (spelled wrong) honorable mention:
Jack of speed and blues beach (althouht THE DEAN ruined that song)
Just kidding! DONE BABBLING

Date: Tues, November 22, 2011, 04:55:30 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Brighton, UK

I thought I'd hop on here for a bit as my Steely Dan fever continues as it has done for over a month now. This has happened before. I pick up their CDs for the first time in years and that's it, I'm in that world again. This can last for months, like a latent disease albeit a pleasant one.

Since my last Dan fever I have had a baby daughter, now nearly 3 who thinks that Babylon Sisters is about chocolate milk, maybe she's right and we're all wrong.

Anyway, it looks like the fever has set in too late for this years tour, lets hope there'll be on the road next year too!

Date: Mon, November 21, 2011, 21:53:53 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Don, thanks for the Green Book reminder. An underrated track on an underrated album. My favorite 21st century-Dan song is Pixeleen, but Green Book is a close second.

Date: Mon, November 21, 2011, 20:35:40 ET
Posted by: Enimen, aka Unka T-Razz, Mashville, NC

Let's play "Find the 'Green Book'"

Don, loving Headquarters. On rapid rotation on my iPod and in my head. Thanks!

Date: Mon, November 21, 2011, 19:02:48 ET
Posted by: SF Dan Fan, In the outhouse

Gotta love the Parlament/Funkadelic hoodie Donald is wearing in the pix on the SD website!

Date: Mon, November 21, 2011, 10:19:02 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH

@DonBreithaupt, Toronto

I couldn't agree more about "Green Book". One of my favorite songs of all artists and of all time.

Hearing it performed live would be incredible. It is my ultimate request to the band.

Date: Mon, November 21, 2011, 08:25:57 ET
Posted by: entmoot, Fairfax, VA

Perth, AUS � 2011-10-18

INTRO: Dizzy's Bidness
Black Friday
Showbiz Kids
Hey 19
Time Out Of Mind
Rikki Don�t Lose That Number
Papa Don�t Take No Mess
Dirty Work
Do It Again
Reelin� In The Years
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne
OUTRO: The Untouchables

Date: Mon, November 21, 2011, 01:42:12 ET
Posted by: @DonBreithaupt, Toronto

"Green Book" shuffled in on my iPod today, and blew my mind for the millionth time. That tune is my #1 Dan track of this century. Even when the song has unfurled itself completely, you want the Carlock groove to continue ad infinitum...

To Jazzassin + Music Fan: thanks for the shout-outs! (Or is it shouts-out?) FYI, Warner Digital says Monkey House / Headquarters will be available in iTunes stores outside North America starting the second week of December.

kazaa link:!/Monkey-House/Headquarters

Date: Sun, November 20, 2011, 23:23:32 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, deflated

Damn you mean that review isn't true? I thought it was true. I was all like "Maybe Donald and Walter will have time to do some session work on my inaugural cd now!". But I don't how well they would take direction you know? Like would they say "No No! Don't do it that way, do it THIS WAY!" and take over the whole operation and before you know it it's their cd and not mine!

I guess it's good news the review was a farce. I still have my life to myself now. They can't take that away from me, yet.

Date: Sun, November 20, 2011, 22:19:40 ET
Posted by: A, Fan

Was reading about the Natalie Wood case being reopened, and noticed something Dangential. Robert Wagner is now married to Jill St. John.

Can that be right?

Date: Sun, November 20, 2011, 22:05:47 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Best Bar Mitzvah *ever*!

Hey, anyone have a birthday or special event coming up? I bet if we all chip in....
(Note the company's tagline up in the header!)

And for the record, if there is someone out there actually managing to book Steely Dan for a private corporate gig, my job app. is in the mail.

Date: Sun, November 20, 2011, 21:47:13 ET
Posted by: hoops, traveling somewhere, posted from my smart phone

Thank you for the heads up, Joan.

That last review isn't about Steely Dan stopping's about too many cliches.

Fly low and be cool,


Date: Sun, November 20, 2011, 20:00:04 ET
Posted by: ken, Seattle

Billie Rubin - Appears so? If they stop touring, it's not going to be because they got a bad review from some Australian guy that thinks Dan Fogelberg is in the band. It appears to me, that you need to get a clue!

Date: Sun, November 20, 2011, 18:15:35 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, The pessimist is always right in the end, but the optimist have a lot more fun until that happens.

Billie Rubin,

I don't think you should take that for granted just because of that review satire.
It's just making a little fun of all the generic reviews that's been written during this years tour by several critics, and imho also a hint that they have actually read some comments here at the Bluebook.
The meaning of the title is likely to be understood not as "the last review because there will be no more touring", but rather "the last one we'll need to read, since it pretty much sums up all reviews in one".

The "review" has been linked to here a dozen times already this summer, and has been discussed and laughed at quite a lot.

Myself, I actually am a bit pessimistic about the future of Steely Dan too, but for other reasons. That review satire has nothing to do with my thoughts about it at all.
I'll leave it there and feel no need to be the one to start that discussion once again, and after all none of us really knows, so it will only be speculations anyway.
Like everyone here I really, really hope I'm wrong, of course.

Date: Sun, November 20, 2011, 15:01:43 ET
Posted by: Music, Fan

Really digging Monkey House Headquarters. Nice job.

Date: Sun, November 20, 2011, 14:38:21 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin, Last Roundup

So I guess that's the last Steely Dan tour ever then?

Appears so...

Date: Sun, November 20, 2011, 07:09:07 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Blues Beach

I really like Mr. Breithaupt's Monkey House project. I got you on the brain.

Hutch, some of those Leonhart videos reminds me of one of my forbidden passions; The Residents!

A dad wants to buy his daughter a Barbie doll, so he walks into a toy store and asks the clerk about the price.
"Well, we have the Grace Kelly Collectible Barbie, the Princess Charm School Princess Barbie and the Yoga Instructor Barbie which are all $39.99. We also have the Divorced Barbie which is $3999.99."
"Why is the Divorced Barbie that expensive?" the guy asks.
The clerk rolls her eyes and answers: "That's because with Divorced Barbie you also get Ken's house on the Vineyard, Ken's house on the gulf coast, Ken's Audi TT, Ken's comfy Eames chair, Ken's '54 Strat and Ken's best friend Joe."

Date: Sat, November 19, 2011, 22:25:32 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Check out the videos that Michael has done for his songs. I really dig his video work. Seahorse and the Storyteller indeed. Dreams of an Aquarian. Cool music. Heavy funk.

Date: Sat, November 19, 2011, 14:15:48 ET
Posted by: web search, hint: I drove like a fool to get out here.

The caption has been corrected. This morning it was Donald Fagen.

Date: Sat, November 19, 2011, 12:22:39 ET
Posted by: ken, Seattle

It's Graham Parker

Date: Sat, November 19, 2011, 12:19:24 ET
Posted by: bob, not your Uncle

That's because it's NOT Donald! lol

Date: Sat, November 19, 2011, 11:33:17 ET
Posted by: web search, l

I wouldn't have ever guessed that this is DF.

Date: Fri, November 18, 2011, 21:09:58 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, bway@52

Live streams from Iridium Club in NYC. Now and again at 10pm est-Acoustic Alchemy. Coming soon-L'Image featuring Steve Gadd, Mike Maineri and Tony Levin. Keep checking this site or the Iridium homepage for lots of great live music. One of my favorite rooms in the world.

Date: Fri, November 18, 2011, 03:30:14 ET
Posted by: @DonBreithaupt, Toronto

Guys, thanks for all the positive stuff re my new Monkey House album. Philippe, I love Pau; was there in '91. Beautiful town. Headquarters won't be available at European iTunes stores until next month, according to Warner Digital. ***If you (or anyone) want(s) a hard copy, I have a limited run of the "deluxe" edition of the CD w/ jewel case, slipcase + 16-pg booklet available -- email me and I'll give you details for ordering, depending where you are in the world. For people who have ordered the album via the American or Canadian iTunes store, I can furnish PDFs of the booklet (again, just email me). Marc Jordan is amazing to work with. We've written a few tunes together now, including "Every Time It Snows," a single I produced for him back in '08. Pete Fogel, you honor me, sir! Likewise bassicinstinct, Augusta, Jim Taylor... There will be stateside Monkey House gigs in 2012, hopefully as far south as Baton Rouge. We'll see! NYC for sure. dB

Date: Fri, November 18, 2011, 00:19:51 ET
Posted by: TY, Tokyo

2011-10-29 Yarra Valley, AUS

Black Friday
Hey 19
Time Out of Mind
Two Against Nature
Show Biz Kids
Green Earrings
Dirty Work
My Old School
Kid Charlemagne

Does anyone knows the set-lists of Perth show?

Date: Thurs, November 17, 2011, 15:56:58 ET
Posted by: Philippe, Pau France

Hello Don, please tell me how I can order your cd from France, impossible to get it through Itunes from here ? I just heard the song you post on youtube.
Can't wait to hear your new songs, especially the one with Marc Jordan .
everybody on the Bluebook should own at least his firt two albums, "Mannequin" produced by Gary Katz and "Blue desert" produced by Jay Graydon.
Please contact me directly by e mail, I can help you with promotion in France.
Happy to see Monkeyhouse back.

Date: Thurs, November 17, 2011, 15:25:13 ET
Posted by: Pete, New York City

Don! Awesome job on the new CD! It's been in my player for weeks! And for those you that don't know or remember, check Don's killer version of DF's "Lazy Nina" from one of Monkey House's earlier CD's.

Date: Thurs, November 17, 2011, 14:33:50 ET
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Date: Thurs, November 17, 2011, 13:39:11 ET
Posted by: Elgin, Boston

Re: the recent thread about supporting SD band members / Brats solo projects. That's a beautiful sentiment. Give the gift of music for the holidays!
Catherine Russell gigs are found on her FB fan page which you can "like" here:

Her shows are mini Fests of Dan "walk on" music / vintage r&b, soul, blues, jazz.

Upcoming Catherine Russell gig Highlights

Nov 20 Mountain Stage Radio Show, Charleston, WV

Dec 5 Dakota Jazz Club, Minneapolis, MN

Dec 31 Shanghai Jazz, Madison, NJ

Recommend her 3rd cd "Inside This Heart of Mine"
New album due out on Valentine's Day, Feb 14, 2012 - "Strictly Romancin'"

Date: Thurs, November 17, 2011, 10:50:24 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, Occupy this

RIP Moogy Klingman

Keyboardist and co-founding member of (Todd Rundgren's) Utopia
has sadly lost his battle with cancer at the age of 61. It was a pleasure and honour seeing and hearing Moogy with Utopia this past January; the current Utopia reunion has 2 more dates left this weekend in Peekskill, NY and Upper Darby, PA. Moogy, scheduled to tour with this reincarnation was unable to join his friends for the festivities these past 2 weeks. RIP

Date: Thurs, November 17, 2011, 10:26:08 ET
Posted by: entmoot, Fairfax, VA

Does anyone have the set-lists for the following Steely Dan shows that they can post here?

October 29, 2011 - Yarra Valley, AUS
November 02, 2011 - Wellington, NZ
November 05, 2011 - Napier, NZ


Date: Thurs, November 17, 2011, 08:47:05 ET
Posted by: bassicinstinct, Nottingham UK


I AM in the business but, nevertheless, I couldn't agree more.

Great stuff!!

Date: Thurs, November 17, 2011, 06:41:55 ET
Posted by: Libby, DhPJmTPvhXkypOgusIo

Whoever wrote this, you know how to make a good actrile.

Date: Wed, November 16, 2011, 23:41:31 ET
Posted by: Augusta, DC Native

Don Breithaupt - I love your work. I am not in the music business, but just want to let you know that this Steely Dan fan of 40 years appreciates what you have done. Creative and awewome.

Date: Wed, November 16, 2011, 23:40:18 ET
Posted by: Augusta, DC Native

Don Breithaupt - I love your work. I am not in the music business, but just want to let you know that this Steely Dan fan of 40 years appreciates what you have done. Creative and awewome.

Date: Wed, November 16, 2011, 20:09:49 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Baton Rouge

Don: Well I liked it and will buy it Friday when I get paid. No CD until '12? I am a little old fashioned. Don't own an I pod. I like to have something with liner notes! Well at least you got me to sign up for itunes. Good luck with the release. Come on down to New Orleans, I'm sure we can dig up an audience down here. (When SD played the Jazz Fest in 2007, every musician in the area showed up to listen!) Do you do the singing? Good grooves, harmonically rich...very impressive.

Date: Wed, November 16, 2011, 16:41:21 ET
Posted by: Don, Breithaupt

OK, "No talent, Just good taste," easy shots... Q: Who would you get to guest-star on <your> record if you'd been a Steely Dan fan for 40 years and were making groove-based original music w/ Dan-type harmonic and melodic content? Monkey House / Headquarters has done really well out of the gate (one week and counting); I'm just trying to spread the word to people who I feel pretty strongly will like the album. That may strike you as shameless or something, but when you're a so-called "niche artist" trying to aid and abet the Warner-distributed jazz imprint that has signed you, you pull out all the stops! Go to the iTunes store, sample a few tracks, and then tell me I'm barking up the wrong tree:

Date: Wed, November 16, 2011, 12:47:54 ET
Posted by: My, Calc

You'd have to have played Katy Lied roughly 74 times a day since its release in March of 75 for a million.

Date: Wed, November 16, 2011, 12:27:11 ET
Posted by: ?, ?

Jive Miguel - Just curious...what's the purpose of sharing that Katy Lied link? I mean, I think everybody that posts to this forum has it, and has heard it a million times.

Date: Wed, November 16, 2011, 10:55:06 ET

Any guesses when THE DONALDS new album might drop?? And when and
if there will be a tour? I will go first: History repeats itself
early spring 2012 with tour to coincide with the release.
What the f*ck do I know...............not much!!!!

Date: Wed, November 16, 2011, 01:45:41 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philadelphia

OK, I just came back from seeing the Jon Herington band tonight in Philly, and have to tell everyone that if he's playing in your area, it's a must see... Nice, tight trio that showcases his f*ing brilliant guitar work & original songs. They even did two Dan numbers, Chain Lightning and Pearl of the Quarter, and quite well. (The latter was a total surprise, not included in his previous shows.)

Date: Tues, November 15, 2011, 21:14:43 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

The entire, amazing Katy Lied:

Best SD "piano" album, with vibes on a few cuts.

Drivin' like a fool out to Hackensack...drinkin' his dinner from a paper sack...he says "I gotta see a joker and I'll be right back"...

Date: Tues, November 15, 2011, 18:03:13 ET
Posted by: angel, LA

Andy: So good to see you!

Date: Tues, November 15, 2011, 17:25:54 ET
Posted by: No Talent..., we've all done it

We're feeling the change of the guard, from maybe a decade ago. Show biz kids are closer to Charlie Freak, music wise.

Date: Tues, November 15, 2011, 15:53:08 ET
Posted by: This should get you, started

Jag h�r att du sjunger en s�ng av det f�rflutna. Jag ser inga t�rar.

Date: Tues, November 15, 2011, 15:37:18 ET
Posted by: PGE,

@Nicholas Urfe Thanks for the kind words. Just happy to share whatever I find.
And to add to the Kate Bush - Steely Dan connection: Something like 15 minutes after my previous post I came across a press release on the BBC Radio homepage:

BBC Radio 2 - December 6 - 7 p.m.

"Jamie Cullum conducts a rare interview with Kate Bush, as the British singer-songwriter, musician and record producer talks about the jazz she loves.

Kate also tells the story behind Misty, a track on her new album 50 Words For Snow. The two musicians discuss the complex time signatures within Misty and compare them to Take Five by Dave Brubeck, before chatting about their different approaches to composition, and their mutual love of Billie Holliday and Steely Dan."

@Andy Metzger Hi Andy! Although I've come to the conclusion that faces rather than names are my forte I do remember your name. One of those forever associated with my first steps on the Internet and Steely Dan fandom. I'm off to listen to the EP as soon as I've posted this.

But while I'm online let me add to a previous post from the aptly(?) named "No talent," about Steely Dan sidemen:

No, I haven't recorded anything with any Steely Dan sideman or -woman. The closest I've gotten so far is eye contact with Keith Carlock outside The Beacon after a gig in September. But since my "thanks for a great show" got stuck in my throat that was it.

I am, however, ready, willing and able to translate the lyrics into Swedish for the Stockholm premiere of the forthcoming Steely Dan musical.
I know that Donald and Walter a few years back have mentioned making a country album. But in my humble opinion the way to go after the success of quite a few rock musicals the past couple of years, is to go all-out country AND musical. I hear Shania Twain is back from a 6 year hiatus.

Over and out ... and yee-haw!

Date: Tues, November 15, 2011, 14:20:06 ET
Posted by: bob, not your Uncle

Lurker Ray! Do you now see how easy it is to get a SD sideman to play on your CD? All you need is the $. It doesn't mean that you now have to worship Andy and Eye to Eye.

Date: Tues, November 15, 2011, 14:08:34 ET
Posted by: The Steely Dan Police, Washington, DC

Andy! Does this mean that you're not angry at the Steely Dan police anymore for making you take down all of those boot-legs from your website? lol

Date: Tues, November 15, 2011, 10:37:18 ET
Posted by: I knew, that was coming

Date: Tues, November 15, 2011, 09:34:13 ET
Posted by: No talent, Just good taste

Anybody here lately who hasn't released a CD with an SD sideman or three for street cred?

Date: Tues, November 15, 2011, 07:46:24 ET
Posted by: Andy Metzger, LA

It's been eons since I've posted here and I hope that some of you recognize my name. I wanted to let you know of something tangentially Dan-related that I've been up to.

Earlier this fall, I released an EP with my LA-based band Usage Panel. I'm the writer/producer/keyboardist, and the rest of the band is made up of some phenomenal players who are a blast to play with (and I hope listen to). The SD connection is that Elliott Randall takes a solo on one of the tracks.

I'm in full promo mode, so I'd be delighted if you checked out the EP. It's a free download from our Web site:

We're gigging around LA for the next few months. If you dig the material, we'd be happy to see you at our next show, next Tuesday, Nov. 22 at 8 PM at the Silverlake Lounge in LA.

I hope all else is peaceful and well with the greater Dandom.


Date: Mon, November 14, 2011, 19:47:52 ET
Posted by: Don Breithaupt, Toronto

Happy to report that I shipped Monkey House / Headquarters CDs (feat. Michael Leonhart + Drew Zingg) to Australia, Germany, Belgium, Holland and the U.K. today, and that there's lots of traffic at the U.S. and Canada iTunes stores! Int'l "hard release" on Alma/Warner in early '12. My new stuff continues to be compared to SD, Scaggs, Franks, Costello...crazyflattering.

Date: Mon, November 14, 2011, 18:13:42 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

As usual, PGE gives better than he gets. I once asked him if the "Per" in "Per-Gunnar" was a designation of royalty or nobility or at least respect, similar perhaps to "von" on German. He modestly demurred, saying that, no, it was a common name appendage in his neck of the Scandinavian woods, similar perhaps to "Peter."

I wonder.

Date: Mon, November 14, 2011, 16:24:03 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly

Re: Doc's great reminder about supporting band members. Don't forget Jon Herington is playing the Hard Rock Cafe in Philadelphia tomorrow night. I saw the 11/12 show in New Hope and it was utterly fantastic -- he and his band seriously keep getting better and better (and this was in spite of the fact that Herington was still jetlagged, had JUST returned from New Zealand). *Highly* recommended.

Also, I keep tabs on most of the band members through Facebook, and I find it really worthwhile to "like" their pages in order to get up to date announcements on where they are playing. Carolyn is especially good about sending out word of her solo gigs.

Date: Mon, November 14, 2011, 15:20:07 ET
Posted by: Steve Gadd on Kate Bush new one, streaming right now on the NPR site

Thanks to Steve Gadd taking care of the drumming on Kate Bush new album 50 Words for Snow I have the Steely Dan connection neccesary to post this link to NPR streaming the full album right now.

And like Steely Dan has a definitive "Steely Dan sound" there's mo mistaking a Kate Bush record for anything other than a Kate Bush record.

Seven songs between 7 and 14 minutes in length. Jazzy, laidback, piano and Gadd's drums. Bring concentration, peace and quiet and maybe a pair of headphones.


Date: Mon, November 14, 2011, 10:37:39 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Brian, Doc, Fiona, and especially P-G: Thanks for the heads up on the spam.



Date: Sun, November 13, 2011, 17:02:21 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

It's a great idea -- and reminder -- that that it's what we've always done here -- a big purpose-- and the Dandom email lists. For example, when the likes of Chris Potter or Phil Woods have played, say, Chicago's Jazz Showcase, we've had mini-Danfests around these events--and we've organized emailing everyone at

Please remember to use your list for maximum fun.

Date: Sun, November 13, 2011, 10:06:39 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower

Hey kids...

a couple of months ago, I had posted on facebook, after having a discussion with some of the fine Steely Dan musicians after the Rarities night show. I thought I would post a shorter version here:

We were discussing the fact that after the tour was over, these guys have to get back to work immediately to keep some income flowing in. I posted that I thought it would be nice if my SD pals could go out and support the Miles High guys and *whack* Embassy buying their solo works. So, if you have some spare piasters, it would be a great way to support those mighty musicians who have given us yet another summer of fun.

I recently purchased Jon Herington's shine (shine shine) as well as a few of Jim Beard's CDs...right now I am buggin' on Jim's "Lost at the Carnival" which is my current favorite CD for driving music.

Maybe we can all list a few of out favorite Steely band solo works, and that might inspire others to order some discs and support our Steely band and *whack* Brats!!


Date: Sat, November 12, 2011, 19:00:50 ET
Posted by: Michael,

@Steve M

Yeah, it's fair to say that most SD tunes involve taking various styles and blending them into the form of a pop tune. In fact, some might argue that SD is jazz/blues/funk/soul under the guise of a pop tune. Let's not leave out the rock & roll influence, either.

Date: Sat, November 12, 2011, 13:03:06 ET
Posted by: Ghia Girl, NJ

Is anyone heading to New Hope, PA to see Jon Herington tonight? I plan on getting there around 6:30.

Date: Sat, November 12, 2011, 12:54:27 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly

Reidar, thanks so much! It was great meeting you, and indeed I wear my "Norwegian Shuffle Diplomacy Tour" shirt with pride (along w. Doc's classic "KFC / Keith F*cking Carlock" shirt)!

Date: Fri, November 11, 2011, 20:01:23 ET
Posted by: Ben , Indy

Happy Veteran's Day and 11/11/11-

As another amazing tour has wound down, I have to give a big THANK YOU to Walt, Don, and the whole band. From my first live SD experience at Pine Knob during the Art Crimes tour, through show #21 at The Riverside this August, I gotta say it's been much more than a special ride. Hittin' Indy for the first time since '93 made my summer. Here's to some relaxing down-time for our guys and gals, and then hope for a big 40th Anniversary next year!

Also, has anyone else noticed the footwear in the new group pics? Where did they get those shoes? It looks like New Balance is the official shoe sponsor:)

Date: Fri, November 11, 2011, 14:27:18 ET
Posted by: Reidar from Norway, Oslo, Norway

Dear Joan, so nice to read your articles and thanks for being mentioned. Hope you wear your t-shirt with pride, only a selected few people have it. Let's hope the chance to meet again when SD does another gig, mainly in NYC beacuse it's the easiest way to get to from Norway and also were they do more than one or two shows.
Thanks also once again to all I met in NYC at the shows and at the Amsterdam ale house.

Date: Fri, November 11, 2011, 12:40:57 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland


That new Monkey House track is just wonderful, very Matt Bianco but better!

Looking forward to the album, not nearly enough groovy, jazzy, tuneful , well played er....'pop??' around

Date: Fri, November 11, 2011, 08:41:26 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,

Don -

What a great tune/arrangement!

What a fantastic pianist you is!

Date: Fri, November 11, 2011, 02:51:23 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Las Vegas, NV

Yesterday Jazzassin's post about lasers included:

"Be careful when adjusting the angle of the single reflected beam you see when you prepare this. It's meant to reflect upwards/forewards from behind the musicians and end up hitting the ceiling somewhere in front of the stage, not into the audiences eyes. When the single beam is not vibrating it can cause eye damage if someone looks straight into it, so this is of course very important!"

Good advice, to say the least. For most of the last 30 years, I have worked with various types of lasers. My recommendation is that if you wish to set up a laser effect such as this, you should consult the literature regarding laser safety. I am not going to clutter up a Steely Dan fan page with details, but feel free to contact me offline for more information. Apologies for the non-dangential digression.

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 23:51:13 ET
Posted by: Don Breithaupt, Toronto

It is indeed a nod to Vonnegut! No digital release other than iTunes for the short term, but more sources on the way soon. Right now I'm just hoping to create enough iTunes traffic to get a buzz going there. I need to marshall like-minded individuals who dig deep live grooves, lots of changes, jazz-influenced pop w/ sticky hooks, great solos, etc. Know anyone like that? : )

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 22:56:49 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Monkey House. A nod to Vonnegut, Don?

I see you have a Youtube channel with a cut from the new one:

Any chance of a digital release other than iTunes?

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 22:17:54 ET
Posted by: Don Breithaupt, Toronto

Just posted to the digest:

Steely Dan vets Michael Leonhart and Drew Zingg are among the musical guests on my brand new Monkey House album, Headquarters, which is now available at the U.S. and Canadian iTunes stores. Clocking in at over an hour, Headquarters is a harmonically rich song cycle whose musical DNA will be obvious to fans of not only Steely Dan, but Boz Scaggs, Michael Franks, Little Feat and Elvis Costello. Alma Records, a jazz imprint distributed by Warner Brothers in the U.S. and Universal Music in Canada, has licensed the album, and will follow the current soft [digital] release with a worldwide traditional release in March. Other musical guests on Headquarters include Marc Jordan, Rik Emmett, Kim Mitchell and former Pat Metheny Group member David Blamires.

Thought you guys would want to know! dB

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 20:10:12 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Great job as always, Joan. Thanks for sharing.

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 18:20:28 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Joan, that was absolutely outstanding! Great writing.

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 17:41:31 ET
Posted by: Security Joan , Philadelphia

Quick note on a short article that just went live on Huffington Post, my latest (2nd of at least 3) article on Steely Dan, this one focusing on Beacon run and far-traveling devoted fandom... (Sorry about the lame title!!!)

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 17:39:02 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -

Whenever you like a band, a director, a hobby or whatever, you feel like you and others who share the enthusiasm have a secret bond. You get it. It's you against them. I feel this when it comes to directors like Christopher Guest or Wes Anderson, Apple products, marathon running and - especially - the music of The Two.

Which leads me to my question; when was a fellow steeler - however randomly or unexpectedly - nice to you?

I got a ticket stub sent to me from my Aussie friend Peter, who is a casual Dan-head and went to one of the Winwood gigs. Came with a postcard saying "thought this belonged in your collection".

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 16:55:35 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

@TheDean - Alas, no, that's not them, but I've heard worse. Thanks for trying.

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 16:14:53 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!


Any chance this is the duo you are looking for?

And Jazzy, that was a great explanation. Thanks. And yes, I believe SearchMenu is the offending part of that addon. I think it installs without a choice, even though it isn't mentioned in the downloader description.

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 16:10:51 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, last one completely off-topic for now

One more thing... FVD comes bundeled with SearchMenu. I find this quite handy too, but some people seems to find it annoying for some reason.
They also report getting unwanted ads on top of their search result page, which I have never experienced. If you can't handle to see an ad on a web page, please use Ad Block Plus or don't surf.

Whether or not it prompted me to choose to install some other search engine/search bar during install, I don't remember. Many programs or add-ons do. I never accept those anyway, by default.
This is what I meant when I said you shouldn't download anything if you haven't a clue. It's not very smart to click yes, yes, yes, yes.
It's more like no, no, no, no....yes.

Sorry to Hoops and ya'all for this prolonged not-Dangential discussion.

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 15:41:56 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, sassassin


Thanks for your concern!

I know there's a lot of other add-ons/plug-ins that does the job.
In fact, a lot of stuff can be downloaded with use of the built-in page info menu in Firefox, too.
However, I have never experienced any problems with this one. No adware or other infections, no strange search results, no nothing.
It just downloads the video and that's it.
I have used it for a couple of years. I certainly don't clean computers for a living, but I sure clean and maintain many of my friends machines (for a beer, maybe). I think I have pretty good control over my own machines. My last infection was a sasser virus back in 2003 or 2004. True word. (It was a tough one, though.)

I haven't tried by far all of the other downloaders, but some of them caused the browser to use far more resources than normally, made it freeze etc. This one doesn't. I use a handful of other add-ons as well, so it's quite important for me that they don't add up to a massive resource eating monster. Firefox can get pretty nasty, even if it's my favorite browser.
I do of course run protection software, a firewall etc, and try to be careful out there.
I suspect that the reason people report problems with FVD is the sites they visit, not the add-on itself, and blaming the add-on for their porn generated problems.

Most pc problems is located somewhere between the chair and the keyboard.

That said, i'm not a developer. I can't guarantee anything regarding any add-on, and I see that people report problems with this and every other similar piece of software. Why this one seems to have a little more negative reviews than some of the others is a mystery to me, since it works perfect for me.

But I certainly don't want to cause people to get problems because of my recommendation, so I suggest you all choose a five star add-on from the list that Dean links to.
If you have the slightest clue about what you are doing, that is. If not, forget the whole project, buy a Mac and don't ever download anything at all.

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 15:38:14 ET

Reading is fundemental and I don't see anywhere where Ray was defending Joe Paterno. Give me a break. You are right though Ray, Bob is troll who is just comes here to Hoops house to try and get your goat.

Let it go Ray, I wouldn't waste my time our ours.

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 14:52:16 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach


Not to go too far off topic, but with all the video downloaders available for Firefox, why did you choose that particular addon? It has quite a few negative reviews (far more than usual) and there are claims it acts as adware of sorts.

Since i have yet to use this addon, I will defer to your experience. Have you had unusual search results? Did it try to install an alternative search engine?

I'm a bit extra sensitive to this stuff as I clean out these kinds of infections (and much worse) for a living. Perhaps I will install it on a test machine to see what exactly it does.

Anyway, you can find a number of alternative video downloaders for Firefox here, should you be wary of Fast Video Download:

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 13:58:48 ET
Posted by: angel, LA

Greg M mentioned it, but I thought I would try it, too.

Really cool video of the SD Crew doing a set up during the past tour. I enjoyed watching it.

Nice photos of the band (and crew) and then the band with Steve's band (and crew).

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 13:49:33 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, diggin' the Bob Gaynor tune

Al Tamira,

Haha, it's pretty obviously just bull, but when you click the link at the bottom of the page you are taken to a blog page which says it's "guided by the Illustrious & Bodacious El Supremo".

Sounds familiar.

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 13:42:49 ET
Posted by: Jamie, Ocean Beach SD

Greetings everyone. Hope all of you are doing well. I have Two Vs. playing for breakfast, its like a fine wine, chronologically speaking. Anyways the Steely Damned will be playing San Diego 11-11-11. At Humphrey's Back Stage. Great venue on the water. I personally have missed FOUR years of there shows, due to being out of town mostly. I thought any local SoCal Dan Fans would enjoy this knowledge as I found out just in time myself. Pe@ce.

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 13:27:50 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,

Surely this geriatric SD song has already been mentioned.....

My Old Drool :-)

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 13:19:07 ET
Posted by: Al Tamira, Leamington Spa

Saw this about Don's new album - Looks like a load of shambollocks! ....Although I could be wrong!

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 12:53:16 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, light wiz


It certainly is! This tecnology will likely be of valuable help for concert venue constructors in the future. As long as the human ear is still the final criteria to whether the goal is fulfilled, that is.
Sometimes people have just a little too much confidence in modern tecnology, but I can't imagine why this wouldn't be a very powerful tool for locating the problem areas.
Just how possible it will be to actually find a practical solution in an existing venue will of course vary a lot.

Since we're into the lazer subject anyway, I'll give a little tip to those of you playing in bands or does low budget stage lighting jobs. If you ever want to spice up the stage lighting in the little local club with a spectacular, but extremely low-cost lazer effect that will make people think you have invested a shitload of money in fancy schmancy equipment, listen here:

1.Buy a $20 battery powered red or green lazer pointer.

2.Mount it on a short (1 ft or less) mic stand (or to the floor end of an ordinary stand) with duct tape, just in front of the backline bass cabinet, and point the beam approximately 45� upwards to hit exactly in the center of the speaker membrane.
How you solve this is of no importance, as long as it points upwards from somewhere near the floor and hit the center of the bass membrane.

3.Find (or make) a tiny piece of a broken mirror. Thumbnail size is enough.

4.Glue the mirror to the centre of the bass membrane or use double sided tape.

5.Play the bass and enjoy an amazing effect when the membrane/mirror vibrates.

With additional help of a little fog machine this looks like a million! The more fog, smoke or dust in the air, the better the effect, but you really don't need very much. It's hard to describe in words exactly how this looks from the front side of the stage, but if you have seen a real lazer show you'll have an idea. It's closer to the real thing than you'd think, and of course the generated random patterns moves automatically in perfect sync with the pulse of the music. Even the slightest vibration of the mirror will make the beam dance and make big abstract patterns. At concert volume it goes Pink Floyd.

You can of course experiment with two or more lazers/colors, the angle of the beam etc, to get the best result. Hint: One green + one red parallell beams will look like TWO millions.
If you're handy with a solder iron, you can also make a cable remote on/off switch for the lazer pointer and control it from the lighting console or sound mixer FOH position.

Be careful when adjusting the angle of the single reflected beam you see when you prepare this. It's meant to reflect upwards/forewards from behind the musicians and end up hitting the ceiling somewhere in front of the stage, not into the audiences eyes. When the single beam is not vibrating it can cause eye damage if someone looks straight into it, so this is of course very important!
When it does vibrate, the patterns will appear in the air behind and over the musicians, and of course something happens in the ceiling too.

Good luck!

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 11:16:45 ET
Posted by: bassicinstinct, Nottingham UK


Thanks for that.

Intriguing or what?!?

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 05:47:03 ET
Posted by: dumb, duh


Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 04:23:40 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Netscape Navigator


The plug-in is for the Mozilla Firefox browser:

Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 03:08:07 ET
Posted by: Stuy alum like Walter, Oregon

Thank you all for the informative comments that have enabled me to continue enjoying the 2011 tour, even though I was only able to attend its second performance.

(I was delighted to hear The Bear here in Portland, and actually thought it a dandy idea to include a small taste of each of the special "theme" nights in the single shows performed outside of the multi-night big city tour stops. Given the set list issues that have been (rightly) debated here, this would offer us remote die-hards one or two even more memorable moments from these show. Let's hope that Dr. Wu or Pearl will someday pay a visit to Portland, and elsewhere.)

I enjoy tackling D&W's songs as I try to become a better keyboard player -it's an education in theory and composition. While I have a good collection of their work on hand, there remain a few gems that seem to remain unpublished. Since I lack the ability to figure these out by ear, I thought I'd ask if anyone knows of any collections or the like where these songs might be published:

1.Confide in Me (though recorded by Manhattan Transfer, it doesn't seem to have been published in their music books)

2. Century's End

3. Yes, (long shot here) Second Arrangement. Now that Donald has acknowledged paternity, perhaps it may now enter the world of legitimate publication?

I'd appreciate any guidance on finding these from out there in Dandom.


Date: Thurs, November 10, 2011, 00:05:04 ET
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Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 23:28:54 ET
Posted by: ,

Lurker Ray, are you insane? Defending Paterno?
There is no Steely Dan connection for defending scum who protected a child rapist.

Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 23:04:36 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu


You are exactly right about Steve
Lukather never playing on a Steely
Dan LP, but I guess I figured he is
dangential since he has played on
stage with Donald before not to
mention all of the other "connections"
and six degrees of separation.


And you point is? Of course Gary Katz
did the same thing for Rosie Vela!
Nice one Captain Obvious. These are many
of the same players who have appeared on
many of Steely Dan's greatest recordings.
So yeah I'd say there was a "connection".

Yet a another waste of time & Bluebook
space from "bob". Hey come to think of it,
are you the guy that caused all the trouble
for Joe Paterno? It seems to fit your MO.

How was that live version of Night By Night
in Boston this year?

You're just a troll and an idiot. And clearly
an uneducated troll is the worse kind.

Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 22:22:22 ET
Posted by: bob, not your Uncle

I'd say there is a helluva bigger
"Eye Yo Eye - Steely Dan" connection
than just Gary & Donald.

Oh plesae Lurker Ray. I'd say you should get a clue! Gary Katz did the same thing for Rosie Vela. He picked up the phone and called a lot of the same SD sideman to play on both artists records. It's what producers do. The "SD connection" means nothing! Dean Parks gets called, gets paid and leaves.

Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 21:36:29 ET
Posted by: Greg M, .

official site updated with some tour stuff it seems

(sorry if this was discussed already)

Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 21:24:07 ET
Posted by: ', Phraxos

Lurker Ray -
I'm not trying to be snarky, but based on previous comments, I'm surprised that you'd mention Steve Lukather as Dangential.

Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 20:04:21 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu


I'd say there is a helluva bigger
"Eye Yo Eye - Steely Dan" connection
than just Gary & Donald. Let's
not forget that the following cats all
appear on either one or both of the
first 2 LP's:

Jeff Porcaro
Larry Carlton
Jim Keltner
Chuck Rainey (Get well soon Chuck!)
Rick Derringer
Elliott Randall
Dean Parks
Timothy B. Schmit
Jimmy Haslip
Chuck Findley
Zac Sanders
Abraham Laboriel
Steve Lukather

I also highly recommend the boot from
1983 folks. It is a nice soundboard
recording from an Eye To Eye live show
at "My Father's Place" on Long Island.

Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 19:38:33 ET
Posted by: dumb, computer world

Jazz -- could you tell ups the name of that plug-in?
dumb and dumber

Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 18:44:06 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, today's tech tip

I have experienced the same thing when trying to find clips that I saw earlier.

So I have installed a plugin in my web browser that makes it possible to download flash videos (.flv, .swf) and some other formats from any site and save them to my computer with two clicks.
This way, when I find things that I really like and think I want to view more than once, I can be sure not to miss out on party even if the clip or channel is removed.


Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 18:14:12 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Jazzassin, you are correct - it was strictly amateur. The picture quality was similar to 2ofus. Sporadic continued attempts on my part have yielded nothing. Bummer.

Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 17:57:05 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, confirming

Arrest me if I'm wrong Nicholas, but when the requested duo was described as something "similar to 2ofus", I assume we're talking about a rather informal project, in this case just accoustc guitar and a singer, probably recorded in their home.
There's a zillion SD covers in that format on Youtube.
Some of them are very good, like 2ofus. Most of them are horrible.

Like Informative Broadway Poster says, Eye To Eye was not a cover band.
They recorded nifty arranged original material, releasing two albums in'81 & '83, then reappearing with a third album in 2005.

Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 17:30:25 ET
Posted by: FYI, Broadway covers from Eye to Eye. All original songs by Deborah Berg and Julian Marshall. A husband and wife team.

Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 17:28:13 ET
Posted by: FYI, Broadway

Eye to Eye was not produced by Becker or Fagen. Gary Katz produced two of their albums. Fagen played keys on one or two songs.

Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 17:20:47 ET
Posted by: Ruthie, Silver Key

Nicholas -- There was a duo called Eye2Eye that was produced by Becker and Fagen and did some SD covers quite awhile ago. They appear to be on YouTube.

Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 13:10:56 ET
Posted by: PGE, Get well soon

note on

"Get better soon, Chuck! We're thinking of you --- D+W"

Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 09:51:48 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, FYI


The link works for me, so the problem must be somewhere else.

Since there's not too much highly prioritized activity going on here these days, I post the entire article. There is actually a video on that page as well, which can also be viewed here:

The acousto-optical effect that uses lasers to see sound

If you've ever sat in a sound "dead zone" in a movie theater or concert, you know what it's like to be at a loud event where everything sounds muffled and distorted. Luckily, lasers may soon put an end to these dead zones. The UK's National Physical Laboratory has figured out how to use lasers to see sound waves in a room - as well as acoustic dead zones.

Sound travels in waves. This generally works very well, since it allows massively varied information to travel long distances by causing minor, rhythmic changes in air pressure. The problem is, these waves of high and low pressure can be emitted by different speakers at once, and when they cross, things get weird. When a high pressure area meets a low pressure area, the sounds can cancel out, resulting in no pressure change at all. A person standing there will hear nothing. These dead zones are anathema to theaters and stadiums, where sound needs to carry well. Finding them is a challenge, since getting people to stand at attention in every area of a room is expensive, inexact, and time-consuming.

A new piece of equipment may be able to get the job done with some computers and a thorough knowledge of the acousto-optic effect. We all know that light travels through a vacuum at a smidge under 3 million meters per second, but it can't get anywhere near that fast on Earth. Earth is covered with a material - the atmosphere. When light travels through matter, it has to deal with that matter's refractive index. This is a measure of how fast the medium slows down light. The slowing of light depends both on the medium and the wavelength of light.

As pressure waves move through the air, they change the air density. That shift in density changes the air's refractive index. When light hits a high-density section, it will be slowed down. When it hits a low-density section, it will shoot ahead. These regular high-density and low-density sections can also act as a diffraction grating, causing the light to splay out and cause interference. By bouncing laser light off a reflective sheet on the far side of the speaker, light makes two trips through the acoustic waves. It's then taken up by a detector. The acoustic waves will have caused the light to move at different angles and different speeds, causing phase shift.

Laser light is light that is emitted as a single wave. No matter how much light, how many photons, is emitted, all the peaks of the waves line up, and all the troughs line up. It should come back as a unified wave, too. But because some of the waves are sped up, or slowed down, or scattered around, the peak of one light wave will have shifted to be out of phase with the peak of another. A computer takes these shifts, and the physical data about the room, and analyzes exactly what kind of sound waves caused these phase shifts. This allows the device to build up a picture of what sound waves are light in every part of the room. People could create maps of dead acoustic spots and either alter the room or the seating pattern accordingly.

Date: Wed, November 09, 2011, 07:01:20 ET
Posted by: bassicinstinct, Nottingham UK


Link doesn't work - at least, not for me.

Date: Tues, November 08, 2011, 10:28:36 ET
Posted by: joe, .

Method of solving sound issues at concert venues?...

I only mention it because of the many posts over the years where people at the same concerts have reported varying degrees of sound quality.

Date: Tues, November 08, 2011, 09:46:41 ET
Posted by: entmoot, Fairfax, VA

Thanks Scott M!

Date: Tues, November 08, 2011, 04:49:24 ET
Posted by: alan, @steamer heaven

Yo Entmoot

As reported by Scott M via Dandom-Australia

I was front row centre for the Hunter show and provide the setlist below:

Dizzy's bidness
Black Friday
Hey nineteen
Time out of Mind
Showbiz kids
Do it again
Dirty work
My Old School

Kid charlemagne


Scott M

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 23:29:20 ET
Posted by: Entmoot, Fairfax, VA

Does anyone have the set-lists for the following Steely Dan shows that they can post here?

October 22, 2011 - Hunter Valley, AUS
October 29, 2011 - Yarra Valley, AUS
November 02, 2011 - Wellington, NZ
November 05, 2011 - Napier, NZ


Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 18:57:01 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, in the bookshelf

My Old Lord Byron School?

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 18:44:58 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Jazzassin - I have tried numerous song titles along with every other permutation of Steely Dan covers, Steely Dan cover band, etc., that I can think of. Alas, what I seek must have slipped into the ether.

Conchis would approve of such a result.

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 18:40:29 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, tagged

Do you remember one or more of the songs? Sometimes Youtube clips lacks proper tagging, and it could be that those clips aren't tagged Steely Dan at all, but have only the song name and artist. If you remember any specific song names, try to do a search by that criteria.
Worst case: The clip is removed by the owner, or even the entire channel.

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 18:04:05 ET
Posted by: PGE, Tour highlight 2011

Meeting Steely Dan fans in New York!

Thanks for being part of a good time. (And that goes for the band playing those shows as well. Steely something...)

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 17:49:30 ET
Posted by: roy,

Night by Night was great in santa barbara because of the subtle lyric changes. keep fightin' donny

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 16:57:17 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

There was another duo on youtube that was similar to "2ofus" that did a few SD songs, but for the life of me I can't get them to come up on any youtube search. Unlike "2ofus," only the guy played guitar - the girl just sang. It seems like there was a plain yellow background, maybe with a window. Maybe the guy was Asian, but I could be dreaming that.

Does anyone remember such a duo? Does anyone have a link?

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 16:17:44 ET
Posted by: RD, RR

Black Bowel
Morph The Catheter

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 15:53:38 ET
Posted by: encore, .

Your Gold Dentures
Long In The Gold Teeth II
Naptime Out Of Mind
Tomorrow's Old Bags
Negative Grandma
Gramps Charlemagne

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 15:21:15 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Bob IS an idiot who sleeps with his uncle...

What a douche you must be.

They didn't even play Night By Night In Boston this year!!!!!

They had played it 3 nights in a row prior and it smoked
on the 4th night in Santa Barbara. When this band plays
tunes "nightly" and give them a nightly workout, they smoke.

It was lackluster in NYC for that reason and that is why Pearl's
best take was in Boston IMO.

Go back to your kiddie porn Bob, we all now know that you
are an idiot and know nothing.

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 14:45:33 ET
Posted by: bob, not your Uncle

Lurker Ray - Night By Night in Boston blew away the version they did at Santa Barbara! There goes Lurker Ray again! It was only the "best" if it was played at a show he attended. Sheech!

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 14:14:24 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Highlights of the 2011 Shuffle Diplomacy Tour -

Night By Night - Santa Barbara July 6 - Best take of the tour IMO

You Got The Bear - Los Angeles July 8 - Best take of the tour IMO

Second Arrangement - NYC September 17 - Still gives me goosebumps

American Lovers - NYC - So underrated, Jim B, The Horns & Lady Cat

This All Too Mobile Home - NYC - What? Never seen a grown man cry?

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 13:57:59 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, NY See ya!

Steely Dan has left (all the) building(s)

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 13:18:18 ET
Posted by: Here's mine, Q

The Nitroglycerin Belongs to Mona

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 12:48:17 ET
Posted by: I got one, up

The Second Funeral Arrangement.

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 11:57:09 ET
Posted by: Bill from Pgh,

Chuck Rainey is reportedly recovering from a stroke in Texas. Best wishes to him for a complete recovery:

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 11:01:29 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

#1 Highlight (well, two)

"You Got The Bear," 2 July 2011, Seattle

"Pretzel Logic" w/ Larry Carlton, 23 September 2011, NYC

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 10:56:56 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH

@DANFAN in Toronto

My 2011 highlight was "Gaslighting Abbie" & "Cousin Dupree" Beacon NYC 9/23

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 10:51:19 ET
Posted by: STEELY JOE, philly

#1 song this tour
Your Gold Teeth

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 07:25:08 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Any Major Dude Will Smell You
Charlie Creak
Don't Keep Me Alive
The Last Fall
Only a Stool Would Say That

Apologies for any repeats.

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 07:18:46 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

@Jazzassin - indeed!

Date: Mon, November 07, 2011, 00:09:34 ET
Posted by: TO Danfan, The Florida Keys

Unfortunately I couldn't make it to NYC for the Beacon shows so my hilights come from the show at the Mo-slum Amphitheatre in Toronto. I had only seen Don do Pretzel Logic prior to this so seeing / hearing the full Dan do it was very cool. Also YGT of course.

Another highlight for me was witnessing the sheer joy of the middle age guy (like me) and his 20 yr old son sitting next to us who flew in specifically for their 1st SD concert. We chatted quite a bit before things got started and they were pumped to hear Wu, Do It Again, Riki, Gaucho, and Chain Lightning. I broke it to them gently that they were unlikely to hear any of these and proceeded to amaze them....thanks to concert posters here....with my predictions of what they would hear! :)

Another highlight (lowlight?) was watching the wife cringe/hide...pretend she wasn't with me.... when during my boogie dance to School I began yelling "dead crowd, dead crowd" when no one got up off their fat asses to join in the fun.

I also wonder what the boys think of us TO folks and our funny things on stage. At this concert it was a big Betty Boop for the encores, and a couple of years earlier the giant Bear that was rolled out at Casino Rama to get them off after playing for over 2 hrs. And hey...wouldn't that have been a great time to give us The Bear?...I wish!

And finally...Steve Winwood. Another one of my faves. Too bad we didn't have the privilege of having him open in North America. I'm sure there were people who went to these down under concerts to see him as the headliner. That wouldn't be me when he's opening for SD, but I can appreciate it.....he's that good.


Date: Sun, November 06, 2011, 20:31:15 ET
Posted by: Danfan, Toronto

OK Dan Fans let's hear your # ONE Tour hilight OF 2011!!

Pretzel Logic...They nailed it.
Dirty Work...The girls... A perfect "10".

Date: Sun, November 06, 2011, 20:21:46 ET
Posted by: Greg, Dunedin, NZ

Back from the Auckland and Napier concerts. Both great shows. So privileged to see the guys back in NZ. Check out the video below I may have taken of Pretzel Logic along with Steve Winwood at Auckland. Donald enjoying himself and 'buggin out' as he described himself at one point.

Date: Sun, November 06, 2011, 19:41:51 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Lurker Ray: I just saw that. LOL @ the offhand remarks in that review

The Newest song was probably Hey 19, recorded in 1979 and released in 1980. 30 years ago, Steely Dan had just broken up and had not played a live concert in 7 years.

More Champions Tour Hits:

Gas lively Auntie
Everything Has Gone
Medicare Sign This
Fallen 92, and I Can't Get Up!
Things I'd Miss the Most, if I Could Remember Them

Date: Sun, November 06, 2011, 18:43:43 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu


Final night in Napier, NZ - Steely Dan Shuffle Diplomacy Tour 2011

November 5, 2011

Date: Sun, November 06, 2011, 17:56:03 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Review: Winwood steals Steely Dan show

AMY SHANKS | Monday, November 7, 2011 10:12

American rock/jazz stars Steely Dan were in Hawke's Bay on Saturday for the last performance on the final leg of their world tour, but for all the hype surrounding them the atmosphere fell flat when they took the stage.

Vocalist Donald Fagen, dressed casually in a green hoody and jeans, still had that unforgettable voice, though the overall performance was far from memorable.

One concert-goer who had seen Steely Dan live 30 years ago, commented that this time around all their songs sounded identical.

"It's got that real big-band sound, all the songs sound the same. I am sure it wasn't like that last time I saw them."

Another yelled out, "Play something we all know ... try harder."

People travelled from all over the country to see Steely Dan in the beautiful outdoor setting of Church Road Winery. And while the performance could not be faulted musically - with talented back-up singers, a brass section and Fagen's signature gravelly voice - they lacked stage presence.

People who had been up dancing to opening act Steve Winwood did nothing more than sway in their seats when Steely Dan came on. The odd die-hard fan tried to keep grooving but it was clear even they did not know many of the newer tunes being played.

Interesting interludes by Walter Becker, Steely Dan's second core member, were perhaps some of the most entertaining parts of the show. Hamming it up for the crowd, Becker told stories that got everyone laughing.

Certainly, Ricky Don't Lose that Number and Reelin' in the Years gave people a taste of the Steely Dan they knew and loved. But for some it was too little, too late, with many leaving well before the end of the concert.

There were a lot of Steve Winwood fans in the audience and he got a huge reception when he appeared after Anika Moa had warmed up the crowd.

Winwood tailored his set to suit the audience and people loved him for it. Looking around at a dancing, singing crowd, it was obvious he was a sure favourite.

Date: Sun, November 06, 2011, 17:45:52 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Ho-ho, are there any extremely sweet chicks here?

El Supremo,

That was my first thought when I saw that picture, too. :D

Looks like Santa himself was the one who got the best present this time. His expression is just priceless.


Are you implying we're going to sit here with nothing specific to chat about until March or April? Sadist, that's what you are. But I'm pretty sure you're spot-on regarding Don's new.
Well, I can't imagine we're going to be disappointed when it finally arrives. Quality is always worth waiting for.

In the meantime we can always make some more silly senior Dan jokes I guess. Or repeat the ones we've already forgotten.
What was I just sayin'? Oh, bugger. I think I just lost it. Damned aging.

Is the 2011 tour soon to begin or what?

Date: Sun, November 06, 2011, 10:57:19 ET
Posted by: El Sup, Louisville, KY

I see Lurker Ray was quicker on the draw that I was. As usual. ;-)

El Sup

Date: Sun, November 06, 2011, 10:49:24 ET
Posted by: El Sup, Louisville, KY

Two great "that's a wrap" photos now posted at

Fagen is sporting a nice P-Funk sweatshirt and Walter looks like he is the happiest man alive in the first picture. With good reason.

El Sup

Date: Sun, November 06, 2011, 09:28:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach


From what I remember, Don said he has finished recording the new one. He has yet to mix it, and such.

I'd be surprised if you see any earlier than March/April of 2012. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes Don a bit longer to be fully satisfied.

Just a guess, though.

Date: Sun, November 06, 2011, 00:33:22 ET
Posted by: Hamilton, Melbourne, Australia


Does anyone have any news on the new Fagen album?

I have been very excited about it since I heard about it. Any info?


Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 20:43:30 ET
Posted by: har har har, hee-lair-ee-us

Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu
Almost forgot,
For the Steely Dan Geriatric Live Tour
Band Intros -
"Papa Does Make A Mess"

Segues nicely into "Dirty Work" ("Hey #2"?)

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 19:03:07 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

Ray...thanks for the link to the Pretzel Logic clip, nice sound.

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 18:52:34 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Three seasons, two hemishperes, and sixty-three gigs later....

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 17:54:59 ET
Posted by: Bob, Tx

Is the tour over??????

Any news on maybe extending by adding some west coast dates?

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 17:33:48 ET
Posted by: More old jokes, Toilet

Midnight Snoozer
Walk Between Pain Stops

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 17:08:43 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, (Not Much) More To Come


Rikki Don't Loose That Slumber
Take It Out For Me
This Seat's Been Wetted

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 16:57:38 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Almost forgot,

For the Steely Dan Geriatric Live Tour

Band Intros -

"Papa Does Make A Mess"

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 16:26:30 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu

Steve Winwood & Steely Dan, Vector Arena, Auckland, Nov. 4, 2011

"After the song, it was Donald Fagan�s turn to address the crowd. He was dressed in a black suit and sunglasses and, as he swayed behind his keyboard, he looked like a cross between Ray Charles and Dr. Strangelove."

Steve Winwood set list:

I�m A Man
I Can�t Find My Way Home
Dirty City
The Low Spark Of High Heeled Boys
Empty Pages
Light Up Of Leave Me Alone
Higher Love
Dear. Mr. Fantasy
Gimme Some Lovin�

Steely Dan set list:

Dizzy�s Bidness (instrumental)
Black Friday
Hey Nineteen
Time Out Of Mind
Two Against Nature
Rikki Don�t Lose That Number
Show Biz Kids
Babylon Sisters
Papa Don�t Take No Mess/Band Intros
Dirty Work
Green Earrings
My Old School
Reelin� In The Years
Kid Charlemagne
Pretzel Logic
(I�m A) Roadrunner

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 14:28:36 ET
Posted by: Another AARP hit!, nursing home

My Old Drool

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 13:32:10 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, online

Broadway Informative poster,

What a cozy place to make a record!

And not only so... Donald Fagen plays on it, too. And Randy Brecker. And Bernard Purdie. And Elliott Randall. :D

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 12:31:42 ET
Posted by: FYI, Broadway

Jazzassin - I believe that particular Raw Stylus record was recorded at River Sound in NYC when Gary Katz and Donald Fagen owned it!

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 10:22:21 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, & Fowles

Euro & Nicholas Urfe, you are both so right.

And Nicholas, I finally remember where that name came from.
Please say hello to Conchis from me! If you can find him, that is... ;o)

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 10:10:29 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

If someone made the general query, "Do you think two Swedish chicks with nothing much but pianos and their voices could do justice to Steely Dan songs?" most of us would probably say it was doubtful. Isaksson & T�rnqvist prove otherwise, in my opinion. And if you want to see a lack of pretention, check out the cover art that two svelte Swedes chose, then tell me that they don't share at least a little of D&W's sense of irony.

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 09:34:53 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Department of Playful Tribute Projects

Raw Stylus/J.Shaw: 37 Hours (In The USA)

This was included on the SD tribute album "Maestros of Cool" from 2006.
Listen carefully to the lyrics and every tiny detail of the music.

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 09:10:27 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the quick, from my smartphone

Babylon Seniors.

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 08:06:11 ET
Posted by: Euro, Apologist

I like the Isaksson & T�rnqvist take on things, especially the Gaucho version that was just posted. A big part of the SD ethos is cool detachment from the conventional expression of strong emotion in lyrics, and the delivery of those lyrics. But we love SD because we know that emotion is all in there somewhere, pulsating organically way down deep under the chrome. It's just nice to hear it out in the open this way - it rejuvenates your perceptions of these multi-layered works of art.

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 07:17:20 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, somewhere


No problem, really. No internet discussion will ever spoil any pleasure I might get from a given recording by this or that artist. There will always be different opininons, and the discussion is interesting in itself.
I absolutely agree that Steely Dan songs really don't lend themselves very well to covers. It's obviously something that is more or less consensus amongst musicians worldwide, since the number of cover projects is still very limited despite Steely Dan's extremely high rank in the music world for decades. In fact, the mere idea of seriously trying to make really good cover versions of them scares the shit out of most sane musicians. Even trying to just replicate them note by note is a huge task, and usually fails.

Sometimes someone has the balls (ovaries??) to actually do it anyway.
If they try to "be" Steely Dan and play everything "right", it's meaningless. It will never reach the originals to the ankle, and it becomes obvious that Don & Walt owns their songs 100% without competition. Best case scenario is I will somtimes find it entertaining in a silly way, like Japanese cover band Steely Shodan.
But when someone don't try to prove anything, but rather just plays around with these marvellous songs for their own pleasure, giving them a hint or more of their own flavor, I can easily appreciate it and understand them, because it's fun and a very educative process.
I can't imagine Isaksson & T�rnqvist ever had ambitions to seriously compete with the originals, nor say make an album that would economically secure their aging. I percieve their project as a modest but very personal tribute to their own musical heroes, and nothing more or less than that. It's a fan project. Luckily, the two girls has som undisputable musical skills and very beautiful voices, so the result became very enjoyable to my ears after all.

Yes, Steely Dan is of course a very American thing. An American national treasure if you ask me. However, that fact doesn't mean that other American artists will be more successful in their attempts to cover Steely Dan songs than artists abroad. You mentioned Hancock. I guess we could add Woody Herman to the list of American top notch artists who has recorded musically ambitious versions of SD songs?
According to the liner notes by D&W, they obviously loved to hear their music performed by a legendary jazz orchestra. Hancock's musical qualifications are just as legendary. But:
Personally, I listen far more often to "Fire In The Hole" by Isaksson & T�rnqvist than any other cover project, the two aforementioned great American artists included, however much I like them, too. Maybe it's because it sounds so utterly different, so original, personal and passionate. And absolutely because it's interesting in terms of a musical experiment.
When things start to sound a little too similar to the originals, that's when I start irritating over missing details, disagreeing with their arrangement decisions, missing Donalds voice etc.
When they sound like nothing but themselves and takes the songs home to a totally different musical planet, I'm much more open-minded to it.

I have Metheny's Polish project "Upojenie" too, but don't quite agree that it lacks anything that's specifically American. I see your point about the vibrant South American flair, but I think that's just one aspect of Metheny's musical palette. Remember that for many years, he was on the German ECM label, produced by the legendary Manfred Eicher, and also did a lot of those recordings in my old home town Oslo, Norway, engineered by my fellow Norwegian Jan Erik Kongshaug.
Though having many American artists on his label as well, Eicher and ECM became famous for devloping a modern "European" jazz sound. Metheny also had a European bass player, Eberhard Weber, and Metheny has ever since been associated with that eurojazz sound, and is regarded as one of the most important contributors to it.
On the ECM label we also find "Belongings" by Keith Jarrett & Norwegian sax player Jan Garbarek, from which Steely Dan lifted one of the main themes from Gaucho (and had to pay a dirty rotten million for it, too... :( )
That said, "Upojenie" is not my favorite Metheny project in any way, but it's certainly not because it's not "American enough" for me. It's just not as good as his best stuff, imho.

Last but not least, I guess music, like the rest of the world, is becoming gradually more globalized, and people from different continents exchanges musical ideas and traditions more effectively than ever before. Maybe in a decade or two, it will be almost impossible to label an artist as specifically American, European or whatever, other than that the artist was born and raised here ore there. We will maybe still talk about "traditional American" music, but it will possibly be done by artists from every corner of the planet. In fact, the future is already here.

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 02:33:27 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Jazz - I don't want to spoil it for someone else, it's a great effort. IMO, SD' music just does not lend itself very well to be covered. Herbie Hancock being the exception here...
And SD is so much the American thing, it really sounds foreign when played by non Americans. Like Sade's sound is European, no doubt.
Even if both D+W played a little on those re-arranged songs, it would not come close to what we love about the originals, creating a vacuum.
Pat Metheny did exactly that a couple of years ago and validated a band from Poland by recording his own songs with this band and a female singer.
Great singer, no less. The whole thing is badly missing the vibrant South American flair of the originals.

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 01:03:36 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

As for the cd Fire in the Hole,While I was in NYC for the Beacon run,I received a copy as a gift. We listened to it on the drive home, and found it to be extremely likeable.For a similar sort minimalist style check out "2ofus" playing various steely songs on youtube.Also quite interesting.

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 00:30:21 ET
Posted by: Outtake 1, kllklk

Social Security Joan

Date: Sat, November 05, 2011, 00:10:15 ET
Posted by: Citizen Cane reprise, laksdflsaf

I Forgot the News
Hey 59
The Boston Menopause
Katy Died
Preparation H Gang
On the Prunes
Safety Razor Boy

Date: Fri, November 04, 2011, 21:57:49 ET
Posted by: down, under

18+ minutes @ Adelaide 30 Oct.

Date: Fri, November 04, 2011, 18:45:14 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Alzheimer's Disease is a blessing. You get to meet new and interesting people all the time

Special Edition Bonus Tracks:

Only A Youngster Who Knows Nothing About Life Would Say That
Mem'ry Runaway
Everyones Gone To The Morgue

Date: Fri, November 04, 2011, 17:56:44 ET
Posted by: Citizen Cane Tour,

Steely Dan's Next One...out post-mortem in stores and websites near you!!

Start That Heartbeat Over Again
Almost Dead
Yore Gold Teeth Too!
Cialis Freak
Reverse Mortgage Years
Almost Golfing
Fiber in the Hole
Lunch with Jello
This all too Patio Home
Shuffleboard Kids
Hip too Flat
Lack of Speed
Parker's Bran

Date: Fri, November 04, 2011, 16:28:12 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Maliburrr - Soaked

"Intricate, subversive pop leaves audience reeling"

"The encore (Kid Charlemagne) hammered home the point of Steely Dan's music, the skill and strength of the band and the emotional overload of taking in one of the finest shows I've seen."

Steely Dan with Steve Winwood

TSB Bank Arena, Wellington, November 2

Date: Fri, November 04, 2011, 14:05:51 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR


Yipes! I was in NYC on the 19th and off-line.

Good find.

As you were, carry on.

Date: Fri, November 04, 2011, 13:42:42 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Norwegian Lover


On September 19, Lurker Ray posted this:

Thought many of you would also like to
hear the Thomas Jefferson Kaye version
of the rare Becker/Fagen composition,
"Jones". So along with the "American
Lovers" here is the entire "First Grade"

The whole LP.

Date: Fri, November 04, 2011, 13:40:19 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, in the hole


I can see your point about the two Swedish girls doing Gaucho in such a stripped down version maybe isn't exactly the musical climax of their album.
I guess the reason the earlier material is more suitable for simplification to the point where there's almost nothing left, is simply that Becker and Fagens songwriting and arranging in the '70s gradually progressed towards more complexity, and the development of recording technology accompanied that trend.

When you do Gaucho with just one piano, some subtle autoharp and two female voices, it means that extremely many fantastic details have to go.
Those details are utmost important for the overall result we all know and love, and when they're not there, we will usually miss them.
Generally, the older songs are in themselves (in their original versions) less loaded with tons of details, and any reductive re-arrangement will appear less dramatic than is the case with ie. Gaucho.

When I listen to the girls' versions of Green Earrings, Josie or Gaucho, I admit it's not primarily for the sake of hearing fantastic music as such (I guess for listeners not familiar with the originals, it wouldn't be anything special about some of them at all), but rather listen to it as some kind of scientific experiment: How much is it possible to subtract from the whole and still keep the essence of the song in an interesting way? And the answer is: Almost everything.
In that perspective, I find the whole album to be a very fine supplement to any Dan aficionado's collection. It shows how strong the compositions and lyrics are, even in the most minimalistic rendition imaginable.
For other listeners it may very well be the opposite way around: They will maybe conclude this is the evidence that most SD songs post 1977 are very dependent of most of their original arrangement details to actually happen. I have no problem of understanding that point of view.

However, comparing the swedish girls' versions to the originals in a competitive way is not fair, or even relevant. It's a tribute album made by two creative girls who obviously has a strong love for SD's music, and who couldn't resist the temptation of recording some very personal interpretations of some of the songs.

Personally I actually regard "Green Earrings" as one of the best songs from the album, even if it's a good example of a complex song that has been treated with no mercy for a whole lot of magical details. Green Earrings without a guitar or three?? Without bass & drums?? No way, Jose!! But Isaksson & T�rnqvist has managed to fill their version with so much emotional power. Rising madness, loneliness, psychopathy and the feeling of a human state drained of every last remains of human warmth is my primary associations when I listen to it. Almost scary.
I also percieve much of the same loneliness and melancholy on the title track, Fire In The Hole. Maybe even more so than on the original, which must be one of SD's saddest songs ever.

Date: Fri, November 04, 2011, 12:25:26 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

Flashing back to Rarities Night.

No one seems to have provided a studio source for this one yet, so here ya go:

Date: Fri, November 04, 2011, 11:25:13 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -

Jazzassin is obviously right here, in that the Fire In The Hole covers are very simplified harmonically compared to the originals. I think the covers of early tunes like Rose Darling worked well, but their approach to later material like the majestic Gaucho title track leaves me cringing in places.

Then again the girls are Swedish; we should cut them some slack...

Date: Fri, November 04, 2011, 08:14:30 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, on the contrary


I'm not surprised that the "Fire In The Hole" tribute album by Sara Isaksson & Rebecka T�rnqvist isn't everybody's taste.
Different fans will have different musical preferences and different favorite elements in Steely Dan songs.

But I strongly disagree that their stripped down versions are "overly jazzy". Imho nothing about them is by any measure more jazzy than the originals - on the contrary, they're very subdued, basic versions that first and foremost focuses on the melodic lines, the lyrics and the basic chords of the songs, played very simple and straight forward.
I think somehow they've managed to capture at least one out of several possible essences of each song on the album in a very clever, yet very unpretentious way.

And speaking of unpretentiousness... That's where I have a problem hearing the similarity between them and Streisand.
She has almost always sounded a bit too pompous and affected for my taste, and if she ever does Prince (God forbid), I'm pretty sure it wouldn't change my view about that part. Please, Barbs. Don't.

Date: Thurs, November 03, 2011, 22:18:47 ET
Posted by: LOL,

What a Putz...I Mean To Shine sounds like Streisand doing Steely Dan

Date: Thurs, November 03, 2011, 21:34:29 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

The ladies have nice voices and the piano is ok, but I can't stand these stripped, overly jazzy covers of Steely Dan songs.
It sounds like Streisand doing Prince.

Date: Thurs, November 03, 2011, 19:07:47 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu


I haven't dragged out The Academy Theater
VHS in quite some time, but wasn't that
shown on A&E and not USA?

There was also a truncated version shown
on a late night music show that used to
air on ABC.

Date: Thurs, November 03, 2011, 19:06:33 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Thanks for the great info on NYR&SR, FYI. I knew it was for a TV network, but I thought it was A&E. Was the entire concert really televised? If so, why don't I have it? I can find no reason for this!!

Obviously if the entire concert was recorded and televised, it has to exist somewhere. It may have been pre-DVR but it was certainly post VHS.

Date: Thurs, November 03, 2011, 15:51:02 ET
Posted by: FYI, Broadway

Dean - I've seen those videos you put up of the NYR&SR before. Just in case you didn't know, those clips were not from the Beacon Theater. They were filmed at a private show at The Academy Theater (no longer there) in the West 40's in NYC in the summer of 1991. The whole show aired on the USA network a few months later. It was over 100 degrees at the time of that filming with no air conditioning in the venue. Donald went through about 10 towels that night. Thanks for never gets old.

Date: Thurs, November 03, 2011, 11:02:27 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, & two Stockholm-ylon Sisters


"A brilliant illustration that great songs are great songs, whatever the format of their performance. ;-)"

Exactly my thought, too.

I bought several copies back when the record was released and gave away most of them as christmas presents, keeping one for myself.

Highly recommended.

Date: Thurs, November 03, 2011, 10:46:40 ET
Posted by: bassicinstinct, Nottingham UK


Available from Amazon.Com it would seem:

Worth every penny IMHO.

Date: Thurs, November 03, 2011, 10:42:28 ET
Posted by: bassicinstinct, Nottingham UK


I can really recommend the Fire in the Hole album.

A brilliant illustration that great songs are great songs, whatever the format of their performance. ;-)

Date: Thurs, November 03, 2011, 08:58:12 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, & two swedish gauchitas

The SD tribute album "Fire In The Hole" (2006) by the two swedish singers/keyboard players Sara Isaksson and Rebecka T�rnqvist has been mentioned several times before on this board, but now I found another clip from the album up on Youtube, namely their brilliant rendition of "Gaucho".
I dont remember this clip being mentioned here before.

It's NOT a video, just the audio from the record with cover art.


Date: Wed, November 02, 2011, 23:21:49 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

I want to add (although I think it goes without saying) the Winwood/Dan Pretzel Logic video I watched is from the 1st time they played that together (at least the first time in public). I imagine it got tighter after repeated performances.

And, while I know these are old news to many, for those who haven't seen any real videos from NYR&SR, here are a few (in addition to the Pretzel Logic vid I posted earlier):

And here are a couple amateur vids from those days:

Date: Wed, November 02, 2011, 21:19:14 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

The Dean comes through in spades. That was indeed sweet.

Date: Wed, November 02, 2011, 20:44:32 ET
Posted by: Joey, denver

Dean - The second I saw "video", I ran to that link! Because I know there's no video footage from those early NYR&S shows.

Date: Wed, November 02, 2011, 19:12:42 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Thanks, Ports.

Even though I am well into happy hour here at the Manatee, I can still manage to read Ports' post which clearly states "(sound only no vid)" so nobody should be surprised to find there is no video.

And, it is clearly from the 90's as the date in the youtube information (click "show more"} is 1993.

Which brings me to a personal observation regarding the Winwood/Dan Pretzel Logic collaboration video posted from the Australian tour. It was great to see, Sounded good and certainly historic. I would have LOVED to see it in person. But with that said, I still have to ask, "was it that good?" At first I wasn't sure. It wasn't classic Dan, IMO. But I listened to it several more times (and plan to continue). It grew on me. It was interesting, for sure. But with that said, I have heard better versions of Pretzel Logic--IMO of course. To me, the version with Mike M and Drew Zing from the Rock and Soul sessions is much better--and tighter:

Date: Wed, November 02, 2011, 18:44:31 ET
Posted by: Joey, denver

Ports - Calling that a "video" is a bit of a stretch. You got me pretty exited there for a second.

Date: Wed, November 02, 2011, 18:09:00 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

Lurker Ray...Thanks for the info


Date: Wed, November 02, 2011, 15:19:50 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Malibu


Look for the Trans-Island Skyway
CD Single with the "Tomato" on it.
Reprise records W0196CD 9362-41062-2


The Japanese extended version

Date: Wed, November 02, 2011, 14:57:15 ET
Posted by: Answering , Ports

Most likely NYR&S. I think Home At Last showed up as a B side on a CD single somewhere.

Date: Wed, November 02, 2011, 14:04:49 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

I found this excellent video of Home at Last w/Drew Znigg @ the Beacon (sound only no vid)... not sure if it has been brought up here before.

It claims to be from the Beacon, but gives no date. It can't be from this year because it was uploaded in Feb 2011. Does anyone know what year/show this came from? The sound is excellent and seems to me to be from a band recorded/produced clip...not audience.

This slip also shows up on the Drew Snigg website.

Date: Wed, November 02, 2011, 13:40:07 ET
Posted by: Mr, P

Dead here. I think all wads were blown with rarities night.

Date: Wed, November 02, 2011, 00:17:33 ET
Posted by: Travelling Minstrel, The Southland

Some (belated)observations on Sunday's show in Adelaide...

-Wow- am I really as old as the rest of the crowd? except for the three earnest young men next to us- students at the Universtiy's Jazz course, perhaps.

-Winwood can do it all- sings well, plays guitar well, and is a master of the B 3, all in his particular rock/blue-eyed blues context. Whilst I am not a great fan of this particular style of music, I do love me some Hammond organ, especially when the Leslie rotating horns swell. I enjoyed his set- 7.30 pm to 9 pm- although it obviously didn't have the texture and variation of what was to follow.

-The Miles High Band was super. Sounded better and tighter to me than the 2007 band (although they were largely the same players, were they not?)The horns were fabulous, although (and I may be all alone on this)I prefer Jim Pugh as part of an ensemble (and he is the best at that) and I'm not so keen on his soloing- it seems to me he tries too hard to play a million notes really fast in his solos, rather than feeling the groove.

-Last time SD were in Adelide we had ordinary tickets about 2/3's back and up on the right side. This time I thought "hang the expense- I need the best tickets available"- so we ended up in Row 3 directly in the middle. The view was great and the sound was loud and clear. I fully appreciate though that the sound in the venue is difficult, and Alan's complaints from where he was would be justified. However, for me, the expensive tickets were certainly worth it.

-I loved it all, Aja/Bodhisattva/Reeling in the Years were all done pretty straight along with an really kick arse My Old School, which they did not play last time (to the best of my recollection).

-When Fagen first walked on, in shiny shiny silver sparkly shoes, a woman behind me yelled "where did you get those shoes", and Donald smirked, albeit only slightly.

-Highlights: the funkified version of Show Biz Kids/ Dirty Work sung by the girls- I think this was a different arrangement even than the one they played in 2007, sounded full and lush/ Black Friday, which started out like the "Chicago Blues" version from the Plush DVD but unless I am mistaken took on a slightly different groove in the chorus/ Rikki- with chord substitution sounded fresh, up to date, and to my ears absloutely gorgeous. I usually like SD's more outlandish jazzier stuff (eg YGT II), so it is strange that one of the more straightforward poppier tunes should turn out to be my favourite of the evening. Hey Bullgoose, if you can remember what they did and work it out, let us know!/Pretzel Logic with Winwood was also truly memorable.

-Disappointments: not much to speak of really, but at the end of Reeling in the Years Fagen walked off, stage left and Becker looked like he wanted to play another song- still had his guitar strapped on. It looked like Fagen said something to him as he walked past and Walter looked at the still applauding audience, gave a small shoulder shrug and then walked off too. I found out later, because Alan commandeered a set-list, that they were due to play Kid Charlemagne after Reeling-so we missed out on a song. I can't complain too much though- we still got a full 2 hours of music -9.30 pm- 11.30 pm (including the encores/I thought Roadrunner, not having heard it before, fairly nondescript. Is it a Winwood song? Again, slightly disappointing to think that if they don't tour Australia again that that will be the last song they ever play down here....

It was also really cool to hook up with Alan (Australia's biggest SD fan, of that there is no doubt) and his lovely wife Jeri for a drink and pizza beforehand.

It was only my third SD concert and it was a night I will long remember. I only hope it won't be the last time I'll ever see them play.

Date: Tues, November 01, 2011, 23:03:03 ET
Posted by: ozmydias, west of perth

A special Thank U to all the great Aussie fans who kept us linked in to the down under Dan concerts!

It seems like Stevie Dan finally came into being again....:D

Date: Tues, November 01, 2011, 17:46:42 ET
Posted by: the bullgoose, sweet home bonalbo australia

Hey Mike the Baker,

Your little vignette of the orchestra pit illustrates why we have to share the things we know and love with those of our kind. You may be dating her, but I think I may have married her. Many years ago Chick Corea came back for five encores, to delirious cheering from the audience. There was one voice each time shouting 'No!' Who? You guessed it, The Life Coach.

Date: Tues, November 01, 2011, 00:53:30 ET
Posted by: FYI, Broadway

Barney and Baker werein the Lion King together when the show first opened years ago. Barney originally recommended Baker for the SD gig.

Date: Mon, October 31, 2011, 21:11:30 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

mikethebaker - I believe Ted Baker was playing in the pit orchestra for Lion King when D & W tapped him for the SD touring gig back in 2000 or so. So he's back doing it again and with Barney along. That pretty cool.

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