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May--July 2012

Date: Wed, August 01, 2012, 06:01:58 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Radio Free Jondom

This is from the latest Digest, and I found it so cool I think a link should be here on the Bluebook too:


Really great interview w/ Jon on his new CD and Donald's contributions to it on www.insidemusiccast.com. Some full length songs too. A must for guitar connoisseurs and Danfans in general.

Apart from being an extremely good and versatile guitarist, Jon always appeared to me as one of the nicest guys on the planet. He still does.

Date: Tues, July 31, 2012, 20:19:57 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

The latest edition of the Dandom Digest was just mailed a few minutes ago. This one covered from from July 25-31, 2012. (The previous Dandom Digest was dated July 24, 2012.)

If you are a subscriber, you should see it in your email box in the next couple of hours. If you don't receive it, check your spam filters first; then, if it's not there, please email me.

As I regularly remind subscribers, some people have problems with delivery of the Dandom Digest, usually because of their spam filters, firewalls, etc. That's why this sort of notice is posted here--so you can look for it.

The following are the subject headlines of the Dandom Digest for July 25-31, 2012.


- Dukes Reviews Requested
- THIS FRIDAY! NYC! Herington CD Release Party
- REDUX: New CD by Jon Herington
- New Herington Interview including talk about Donald Fagen
- UpDaTeD: Jon Herington (& SD Rhythm Section) Master Class
- 10/11/12: Krantz/Carlock/Woods Play Chicago
- UPDATED: Dukes Dates Reference Guide
- SPOILER: 7/24: Clearwater, FL
- SPOILER: 7/25: Hollywood, FL
- SPOILER: 7/27: St Augustine, FL (4)
- SPOILER: 7/28: Tuscaloosa, AL
- Dukes Reviews Requested
- Recent Set Lists Revisited


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Date: Tues, July 31, 2012, 13:31:56 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,


Sorry that you won't be at Wolf Trap. We are going and looking forward to it. Also, really looking forward to DF's new one......

Date: Tues, July 31, 2012, 09:58:10 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago


Saw your post from about 2 am, Fagenette: Not that I don't appreciate your posting, but where did you hear that? If you're going to post a rumor like that you need a source. I have not heard that; I've heard that he simply likes to take every other year off. Personally, I'd do the same. I hear weird rumors about both of them--and then I consider the weird, unfounded rumors I even hear about myself--and so the source needs to be considered for such things.
Best wishes and thanks, sincerely,


Date: Mon, July 30, 2012, 20:42:15 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

sunken condos hmmm...
i for one would welcome a lyric lite record
something tending towards fusion,yea thats it,
maybe some new players too
a crack fusion session guitarist and bassist
one can hope

Date: Mon, July 30, 2012, 20:33:25 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

So what hell is going on with Mr. Becker these days? Does anyone give a shit? I sure as hell do. Would love to know.

Date: Mon, July 30, 2012, 18:26:32 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH

Donald Fagen "Sunken Condos" release date is Tuesday October 16, 2012.

Date: Mon, July 30, 2012, 10:45:26 ET
Posted by: Not, Cheap


Date: Sun, July 29, 2012, 21:38:58 ET
Posted by: moray eel, Bee

Dean: I thought Sunken Condos might be a collection of cover songs of the Brothers Gibb... and that Catherine Russell was helping him find all of the lyrics.

"You can tell by the way I use my walk; I'm a woman's man, no time to talk..."


Date: Sun, July 29, 2012, 21:19:49 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

No, moray, background lyrics. "Ooo ah" "Yeah yeah yeah", etc. They can even include repeating the lyrics just sung by the lead singers. Those are the toughest to write, I think.

Just messing around, Michael. I knew what you meant.

Date: Sun, July 29, 2012, 20:04:28 ET
Posted by: moray eel, b?

What are BG lyrics?

Are they anything like background vocals?


Date: Sun, July 29, 2012, 17:05:38 ET
Posted by: Hee Haw Mike, San Diego

Sunken Condos CD is now on the CD Universe website for $17.08.

Date: Sun, July 29, 2012, 16:59:45 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Catherine Russell provided BG lyrics for Donald's new album and said it's a "really nice CD."


I'm not ruling out the possibility of insturmentals (obviously, since I've yet to listen to it) but I'd wager that most if not all the new material features lyrics.

Date: Sun, July 29, 2012, 14:38:43 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

I'm not saying the new songs don't have lyrics. I have no idea except Donald has said in a few interviews since MTC that he won't be autobiographically inspired. I'm just saying he could do something like East St Louis or explore non-lyrics songs. Sure, who would think of lyrics to a song called Mary Shut the Garden Door? No one but Donald. I'd be hard pressed to imagine before hearing it. On the other hand, it's possible he'd like to do some instrumentals for a change. Then again, Sunken Condos sounds like the title of an album from one of many jazz instrumentalists.

Date: Sun, July 29, 2012, 12:36:14 ET
Posted by: Larry, NJ

Hoops - All of those instrumental songs that you mentioned were never on any SD or Fagen solo records. Also, the version of Chain Lightning on Katy Lied has lyrics...just sayin.

Date: Sun, July 29, 2012, 12:03:47 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago


Who says all of these tracks have lyrics? It could be mainly instrumentals. (Shanghai Confidential, Fagen's other instrumentals written for others like Shades, Blue Lou, etc) Or they could be predominantly instrumentals with a few lines thrown in by the chorus (True Companion, Finer Things, Chain Lightning 2006)

Just sayin'


Date: Sun, July 29, 2012, 08:47:19 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

I saw the Dukes again last night in Tuscaloosa, AL. Same setlist as Houston and other recent shows. Musically, it was just as good, although it sounded like they were a bit more vocally strained than previously especially Michael McDonald. It was also cooler in Houston, which had shading at their theatre. Still, I enjoyed it tremendously, and I'm glad I had the opportunity to see them twice. Also, the songs I didn't enjoy as much previously I enjoyed more, particularly "That Same Thing" and "Piece of My Heart." Again, I would definitely recommend this show.

Date: Sun, July 29, 2012, 08:16:28 ET
Posted by: Waiting, need new df more than I need sex

I have a hard time thinking how Sunken Condos can work in a song, so I find myself fitting into old songs. They just popped into my head without really trying.

My Sunken Condo
Playing for me
A song without words
Or Harmony

You think you hear a Sunken Condo
Climb a flight of twisted stairs

Date: Sat, July 28, 2012, 21:18:14 ET
Posted by: Fagenette, Brighton

I have yet to attend a Dan/Don show BUT I will be dancing. I can't help myself!

Date: Sat, July 28, 2012, 17:55:28 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando

Back in Orlando after a raucous, terrific Friday night show in the heat of July in St. Augustine. Had to still be in the 90s when they took the stage to enthusiastic applause from a boisterous crowd which, if it wasn't at go-time, was certainly well lubricated by the time we got to Love TKO.

I join those saying that "Take Another Little Piece" was a show highlight. I thought Miss Sun was also outstanding. I'd say they had a fair amount of dancing in the audience, which I know is not that common for SD shows. But they picked a lot of these songs, I thought, with an eye to encouraging it.

Outstanding show, across the board.

I was privileged to share a pre show libation with The Dean. Great guy, gave us tips on the local joints to muster our forces, and directed us to some free parking in a friend's driveway across the street from the venue ! Thanks again, sir.

Date: Sat, July 28, 2012, 17:45:21 ET
Posted by: Carl, sydney australia

Jake- That was funny!

Date: Sat, July 28, 2012, 08:02:54 ET
Posted by: Mr. Fugazi, FL

St. Augustine show was amazing. One of the best I've ever seen and I've seen Dan 6 times. The energy was incredible and the musicians were flawless. Weird as it sounds my favorite song of the night was Catherine singing Piece Of My Heart. It was phenomenal. Also the best version of Pretzel Logic I've heard. I was expecting it to be like they did on the Fab-Originees tour with Michael singing the B section but Boz sang the Napoleon verse and it was great too. Herington can shred like no one's business. The band just kept going song after going with the same energy and intensity.

Donald looks like he's having way more fun on this tour than on any Dan tour I've ever seen. He's enjoying the heck out of himself just jamming with his friends and it shines through. I wish I could see this show again - it was THAT good.

Date: Sat, July 28, 2012, 01:15:26 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Anastasia Dunes

Sweet holy Jesus, what a night! Saint Augustine was right!

You take hot, sticky southern Friday night, a bunch of hard working folks out for some fun and to blow off a little steam.....

Well, just like in the middle of the desert during the 2006 Soboba
show, you get a band feeding off a wild and dancing crowd and man
it was one for the books tonight in St. Augustine.

Deano, I was in the third row, right in front of Donald, and he was
more than sincere when he told this amazing crowd tonight,

"You guys are the best crowd we have had all summer"

Sorry I missed you and Casual Fan, we went for some Minorcan food.

As Dean said, it was one big party on stage and down in front tonight and man what huge "sh#t eating grins on Don, Mike & Boz during one of the most electrifying takes of "Reelin" I have ever
had the pleasure to witness.

Well I am off to bed, I'll post more about Hollywood and this show when I get back to SoBe next week.

What a night!

Still dancing in the foam......

Date: Fri, July 27, 2012, 23:11:12 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Just back from the St Augustine Dukes show. What a great show. For anyone on the fence (which I confess I was--a bit--up until today) you can come down on the show side. It really was a fabulous concert.

I also got to meet Casual Fan and his friends. All really terrific people--I think they had a blast, too.

Be aware, this is NOT a Steely Dan show, even though some Dan tunes are played--but I think most here know that. It really is a party onstage. Everything is loose and upbeat. The St Augustine crowd was electric tonight. I'd say it was about 80%-85% capacity (only the worst of seats were unoccupied from what I could see) but they made enough noise to make up for those missing. Donald said something along the lines of "You are the best crowd we have had." He sounded sincere, but I don't put too much stock into those kinds of comments.

Boz sounded sensational. His pipes are still very strong. Mike and Donald sounded pretty good too, for the most part.

Jon's playing was terrific. He had a lot of new wrinkles even in the Dan stuff. Jay Collins was in find form, too. Michael L was dressed in all white--really stood out. The girls, especially Catherine, were just brilliant--of course Carolyn was lovely and very very good.

I think Carlock would have made the show even better--especially for the Dan tunes, but Shannon Forest was more than adequate for the mix of tunes. Still I really hate seeing the drummer behind the shield in concert.

Well, enough for now. Hopefully others will post and we can have some back and forth tomorrow.

Oh--I bought a $35 dollar hat. I needed a hat.

Date: Fri, July 27, 2012, 21:36:29 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Well, this is why we love Steely Dan isn't it?


Date: Fri, July 27, 2012, 19:50:18 ET
Posted by: Greg M, NY

regarding the "leaked" cover art linked below:


Date: Fri, July 27, 2012, 17:59:51 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Heading to the Dukes Show

Heading out to hopefully meet up with a few Bluebookers (Casual Fan, for one) for a pop or two before going to the show. Dunno where we are going yet, but I suspect it will be The Corner Bar (next to Gypsy Cab Restaurant) about a mile down the street from the venue. Anyone looking to meet up can try there. I'm the short fat Italian guy with the curly hair.

Probably won't be keeping a detailed setlist this time. Really just looking to relax. But I promise to share my thoughts (for whatever they are worth) on my return.

Date: Fri, July 27, 2012, 16:26:02 ET
Posted by: Bruce Wayne, secret cave

NEW YORK�A New York City musician and a recent graduate of Syracuse University were among those shot, wounded and recovering Friday as a gunman stormed through a Colorado movie theater, their relatives and associates said.
Christopher Rapoza was shot the morning before his band was to play a show at a noted Manhattan club. Stephen Barton was wounded while on a post-graduation cross-country bicycling trip.
Rapoza plays bass in The Toothaches, a New York-based dance-punk band. He was on a trip to Colorado but set to return for the band's headlining spot Friday at The Bitter End, a Greenwich Village venue that dates to 1961.
The club's weekend booking manager, *Pete Fogel* , said he awoke Friday to a startling message from the band's manager: The bass player had been shot amid the massacre at a midnight showing of the new Batman movie, "The Dark Knight Rises," in Aurora, Colo.

Date: Fri, July 27, 2012, 15:16:31 ET
Posted by: Duger, Boston

For those of you looking for "I'll Be Good to You" from the Fallon show, there is this kinda hacky version available (don't mind the dog barking in the middle of it): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3j7LPpTSwk

Date: Fri, July 27, 2012, 13:36:08 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Re: Cover

No Strat?

Date: Fri, July 27, 2012, 13:20:45 ET
Posted by: Jake, W

Sunken Condos cover has been leaked.


Date: Fri, July 27, 2012, 08:58:49 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

I hope Mr. Fogel will give us a comment about the Monkey House gig.

Date: Fri, July 27, 2012, 05:15:37 ET
Posted by: ghjomuwf, New York

Date: Thurs, July 26, 2012, 18:44:17 ET
Posted by: Houdanfan, Fayetteville, AR

I think your right on Dean except I think Walt is more the lyrics guy.

Date: Thurs, July 26, 2012, 16:39:06 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Btw ...

... also, there is some collections around with early sketches of songs that was later included on various official albums in their final versions. They have much "Donald & piano only", or that plus a minimalistic comp of some kind. I assume most of those are Donald's ideas at least.
Still only guessing, yes.

Date: Thurs, July 26, 2012, 16:08:56 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Way way back in the day there was an article about how Don and Walt share the song writing duties. I recall the general gist being: for most tunes, Don has the basic idea and the two work on the final product. I believe there were a few instances where the initial germ came from Walt (Haitian Divorce seems like a prime suspect to me, too) though I can't be sure of that. One thing I recall is Don noting that Barrytown was all his, and then commenting something along the lines of how he didn't consider that song to be among their better efforts.

This of course was before the reformation. Who knows what goes on now?

If I had to guess--and I do--I imagine Don brings the melody and they work on the bridges and complex chord structure together. Walt probably brings the edge to the tunes and Don provides the sheen--musically and lyrically. But what the fuck do I know? Whatever they do seems to work.

Date: Thurs, July 26, 2012, 14:04:26 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Typo Edit Dept.

Not ON, but ONE, dammitt. As in "...what impression one can possibly get..."

Date: Thurs, July 26, 2012, 13:58:25 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Re: Futile Qestions Dept

Gene Frustrato,

Indeed. Still a futile question, but one can always speculate.
I think maybe a clue can at least sometimes be found in trying to decide if a given song sounds like being made by a typical keyboardist or a bass/guitarplayer. Different composing instruments tend to generate different types of melodies and harmonies. To a varying degree, of course. With Steely Dan it's most often impossible to even make an informed guess, at least for me. The fact that they themselves refers to Mr.Steely Dan as a symbiotic character who shows up when they write songs together contributes to the general enigma for anyone trying to guess.
And we haven't even mentioned lyrics, on which I suspect Mr.Steely Dan has an equally big or even more impact.
I obviously don't know these brave men and their personalities other than by what impression on can possibly get through their art and some fragments of info here and there. Thus, no analysis and fever dreams of the lyrics would make me qualified to guess who wrote the first word.

They have a few songs that I feel more convinced about than others though, but fact is, they're just wild guesses too.
One is Haitian Divorce. Always thought it was Walter's baby first and foremost.

J. Frustratocaster

Date: Thurs, July 26, 2012, 12:49:56 ET
Posted by: Gene Frustrato, Portland, OR

I know this is a futile question but, wouldn't it be nice to discover who, either WB or DF, came up w/ the genesis of any given SD song?

Date: Thurs, July 26, 2012, 11:22:14 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, NYC

Hoping to see denizens of Dandom @ the Bitter End in NYC tonight for the Monkey House / Brass Transit double bill! Monkey House, as some of you guys know, is my Dan-style original project, and Brass Transit is an 8-pc, note-perfect tribute to '70s-era Chicago. The Bitter End is on Bleecker S of Washington Square; our stuff starts ~9:00. DB

Date: Thurs, July 26, 2012, 11:06:57 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Chris. Yes - with the guitar, Krantz reminds me of a post-bop Chris Potter.

Date: Thurs, July 26, 2012, 01:54:30 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Yeah, I love how Krantz sounded on that 96 tour ... I've always been a big fan of his solo work, though. I particularly appreciate the fact that he doesn't bother trying to sound like anyone else, and that he took big chances, and that they didn't always end well. He's kind of like Chris Potter in the sense that they're both formidable band leaders with a well established voice, and they can pretty much play with whoever they want. They're on a different level than anyone else in the band.

Date: Thurs, July 26, 2012, 00:13:54 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

The more I listen to Krantz the more I dig what he's doing. Kid C and Green Earrings at Mannassas got those harsh effects down!

Date: Thurs, July 26, 2012, 00:04:22 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, SoBe

Hollywood Swinging - Dukes Of September
Hard Rock, Hollywood, FL July 25, 2012

I don't what it is about these Wednesday night
Dukes of September shows, but this is my second
one and all the way across the county this time,
and again it was smokin' from the get go.

"Summer In The City" was back and Buck was gone.
Donald really brought it tonight when he sang it.

Man if you want to get up and swing it and dance,
go see a show at the Hard Rock here in S. Florida.
Crowd was fantastic.

More when I return from St Augustine.........

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 23:55:18 ET
Posted by: Does Dark Matter?,

In a multiverse far, far away Donald cranks out an album every year and Walter found his '54 Strat.

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 23:24:44 ET
Posted by: Lutz, Sf

Jazz, I am with you.
Every 5 years ( if we are lucky) something new is released - how can a few bucks more be an issue...
On the other hand, how many fans would pay $ 50 and be able to download it tonight?
Most here, I would guess...

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 22:35:21 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Jazzassin and Hutch,

I'm a pretty big Krantz fan (he was great in concert with Donald) and I agree I would rank his Peg solo at the bottom in this particular sample (still pretty good, though). I like Zing's a bit better than George W's, though. Otherwise I think we are pretty much in sync (not to be confused with 'N Sync).

I also loved Krantz's playing with the Dan in the 90's---pretty nice stuff, IMO. But I've always felt his playing wasn't always "Steely Dan sounding"--particularly the solos. I still liked them, but they didn't instantly click, the way Zing's solos did, for example--and Zing wasn't exactly playing copies of the famous riffs either. I think Wayne is probably a better, or at least a more interesting player than Drew, but I think Zing's playing was a bit more compatible with Dan music--if that makes any sense.

Now, when I say "Steely Dan sounding", I don't mean that is the end-all and be-all for great guitar/guitar solos in a Dan song. Sometimes Becke's solos sound great, other times, not so much (at least to these ears) but his playing ALWAYS sounds like Steely Dan to me.

I think Jon has managed to be a very interesting player who sounds nothing like Steely Dan in other settings, but is VERY Steely Dan sounding when it is required.

And, I want it that way--tell me why


Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 22:27:25 ET
Posted by: Hee Haw Mike, San Diego

The Sunken Condos CD is still listed on the Canadian Amazon website at www.amazon.ca

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 21:37:58 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Re: Krantz

Hutch, no doubt that Krantz has his moments. Especially the solos on Brite Nitegown and Pagoda are absolutely beyond description brilliant.
I'll also give him ten points for originality on the Peg solo, I just don't think it was that successful. Just a personal taste thing, of course.

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 21:16:12 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Jazzassin - That would be my list in order exactly. When I saw SD for the first time live in '96 I really didn't think Wayne's solos fit the songs that well. I've since become a huge fan though. His work on Morph and the Massey Hall Fagen Band boot is just top rate in my opinion. I've come to appreciate that sharp percussive attack he uses. But on Peg I'd go with Jon after Graydon. Just a nice mix of the original and his own thing.

Good news finally about the new one. Can't wait!

Pixeleen - Won't be able to make it to the Dukes show this time. Looks like they've had some good sized crowds. You going?

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 21:11:08 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, we all live in a yellow submarine

The house that used to be on the Gulf Coast and Walters '54 Strat, maybe?

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 21:02:22 ET
Posted by: moray eel, cover

I'm eager to see the cover art. 1 of the millions of properties that are under water?


Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 20:59:44 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, all is relative

Over here (Norway) the typical price of a fresh single CD is $25 (149.50 krones). That goes for Lady Gaga as well as Donald Fagen, and in that perspective I still don't think it's that expencive.

I don't have a grandson yet, but if I had and he was particulary internet savvy, I'd rather have him hack the webshop to get it for free and send a check to Donald instead. ;o)

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 20:40:22 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

I'm going to put my grandson on this one. That kid will find that Donald Fagen album for pennies on the dollar. He is one Internet savvy kid. $19.95 be damned. I'll put the over under at $5.57. He's smart.

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 20:02:51 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, it all comes back to me now

Re: Peg solos

The comparision video is interesting, and a link has been posted here a couple of times before I think. Here it is again, for those who don't want to go via Facebook:


To me, the order of favored Peg solos is surprisingly easy to decide:

1. Jay Graydon. (Original solo from the Aja album. No one above, no one besides.)

2. Jon Herington. (Honoring the original explicitly, but deviates much from it as well, while maintaining much of the feel of it. Don't ask me what I mean by that. I just think it does. Or, it would take forever to go into the details. Anyway, don't ask. But there's a reason why our heros like this particular guitar player so much. I'm with them all the way on that.)

3. Jojje Wadenius. Closest to the original, not trying to be very creative with it, but executing a fine version of Jay's timeless solo. That ain't easy at all.)

4. Drew Zingg. A bit indecisive and also using a delay that I don't think fits the solo very well.)

5. Wayne Krantz. (Are we even on the same planet? I don't think so.)

There is one more version of Peg that I find it opportune to mention here. It's called "Room 335", and is by Larry Carlton. Yes, I am joking now. But the fact is, Larry plays on every track on Aja except Peg. Whether he thought that was a shame back then I really don't know, but the year after Aja, in '78, he released his self titled album with Room 335 on it, and it borrows shamelessly from Peg. I have absolutely no problem with that, that's how music develops through time and Don & Walt does it too sometimes. But Aja was only a few months old when Larry did this, so it's quite remarkable, at least.


Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 19:18:41 ET
Posted by: enimen, Peg

Opinions on Peg guitar solos currently being shared on Drew Zingg's FB page:


Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 19:17:40 ET
Posted by: enimen, It will come back to you

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 19:02:12 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Because I didn't preorder it. I'll wait and see who has the best offer. Either way I'll own a nice, sparkling new copy on its release date.

And I will listen to it. Multiple times.

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 19:01:36 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Naah

It's vanished from the www.pauseandplay.com site as well. On Norwegian record shop "Platekompaniet", it's still listed for preorder, but the date has been accelerated from the 16th to the 12th of october ...

Still highly skeptical, though.

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 18:58:23 ET
Posted by: Steve ,

Mike....why don't you go look at your Amazon account. What does it say?

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 18:45:19 ET
Posted by: Michael,

If that's the case then what about all the people who already put in their preorder? Cancelled?

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 17:30:33 ET
Posted by: Hee Haw Mike, San Diego

Strange...the Donald Fagen Sunken Condos CD has mysteriously vanished from the Amazon website.

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 15:55:25 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Forgot to mention that TWO editions of the Dandom Digest were mailed in the past 40 hours. One covered from July 15-23 and the other was special for last night, July 24, 2012 because we had those items about Donald's Sunken Condos coming in October--first reported on the Bluebook. (Thanks to drewslo and The Dean for breaking the news to us.)

If you are a subscriber, you should already have both of these. If you haven't received them, check your spam filters first; then, if it's not there, please email me.

As I regularly remind subscribers, some people have problems with delivery of the Dandom Digest, usually because of their spam filters, firewalls, etc. That's why this sort of notice is posted here--so you can look for it.

The following are the subject headlines of the Dandom Digest for July 15-23, 2012.


- The Dukes To Play Japan
- REDUX: Monkey House To Play First Manhattan Show 7/26, Bitter End
- Dukes Reviews Requested
- Donald up for hometown award
- Chicago Tribune: Howard Levy re-imagines harmonica
- Excellent Article on Keith Carlock
- Jon Herington (and SD Rhythm Section) Master Class
- REDUX: New CD by Jon Herington
- IMC Pick of the Day: Jon Herington
- "The Royal Scam" - to celebrate 40 years of SD!
- UPDATED: Dukes Dates Reference Guide
- SPOILER: 7/3-Santa Barbara: Review
- SPOILER: Dukes Dallas & Vancouver Reviews
- SPOILER: Dallas Review & Photos
- SPOILER: 7/14-Dallas: "near flawless"
- SPOILER: Vancouver Review Link
- SPOILER: Houston Review "Great Show"
- SPOILER: San Antonio: Don Does Buck Owens
- SPOILER: San Antonio Review
- SPOILER: 7/21-Orange Beach: "Great, Great..."
- SPOILER: 7/20-Atlanta: Review
- SPOILER: 7/6-Woodinville/Seattle: "I highly recommend this show"
- SPOILER: 7/6-Woodinville/Seattle: "no disappointments"
- SPOILEResque: 7/10: Denver Dukes Shots, reviews
- SPOILER: 6/30-San Jose: "Lots of energy"
- Dukes Reviews Requested
- Recent Set Lists Revisited

The following are the subject headlines of the Dandom Digest for July 24, 2012.


- Fagen's "Sunken Condos" out 10/16/12?
- Fagen Release Date: 10/16/12
- Win Cleveland Dukes Tickets
- REDUX: Monkey House To Play First Manhattan Show 7/26, Bitter End
- REDUX: New CD by Jon Herington
- Dukes Reviews Requested
- UPDATED: Dukes Dates Reference Guide
- 2 Dukes tickets for sale Count Basie Red Bank 8/4 8PM
- SPOILER: Dukes Alpharetta (Atlanta) Review & Pictures


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Thanks for your support through the years, especially Pete and Shari, as well as Mr. & Mr.s Winterbottom, and remembering Mark and Bill, and not to mention one or two people who request anonymity.


Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 13:55:58 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Last night I asked if all the new (future) releases are priced at the $19+ level. Some quick and dirty research reveals the answer is: Not all, but quite a few. I'm guessing this is the top end MSRP for a single CD and so by charging this they can deliver it without getting you to pony up more $$. In other words, until they get the legit pricing info, this is what they post and charge. As you can see on the Amazon page Sunken Condos, there is a price guarantee. I'm guessing this is there for this very reason.

Of course Jim is right. If you are worried this is the price you will actually have to pay, don't buy it from Amazon right now. I will order it from my local shop--they typically have it on the day or release (or even before, sometime). It might cost me $1-$2 more than I could get it elsewhere, but this way I know it will be there and I support a local business.

And, to be fair, I don't really interpret the discussion of the price as a "sticking point". Seems to me it is merely a discussion. Of course, I have been wrong before.

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 12:26:14 ET
Posted by: Proud, NJ Fan

I pre-ordered early through Amazon because I figured that gives the album as much publicity as a purchase possibly can. If that's dumb, so be it.

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 11:58:45 ET
Posted by: Michael, @hoops

Who decided that being a fan of SD's music entails fitting into some sort of preconceived (imaginary) character which must be played out in their daily lives? Listening to music alone doesn't make you a smart, intellectually-astute person.

As for CD prices, Amazon is usually known for having good deals on their products, so I don't know how they could mark up this album so high unless that's what the label put down as the suggested retail. Regardless, I'm going to get the album, as was said, deal or no deal.

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 11:42:32 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

$19.59 is probably the list price; Amazon's price will probably drop on or around the release date.

I worked for a small label and learned that Amazon's system for adding CDs is largely automated, so this page is probably the result of some massive batch of data they got from the record company. As the release date nears, they'll get cover art, track listing, sound clips, etc ... and they'll drop the price.

Gotta say I'm somewhat amazed that this is already a sticking point for some people!

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 11:08:57 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Just scanning some of these posts about Sunken Condos.

1) It's not like it's a CD exclusive to Amazon. You are insane if you are paying now to advance order the CD from Amazon at full price. First of all, it will go on sale as other on-line retailers announce their prices. Furthermore, if you are a regular Amazon customer you have almost three months to combine it with another order to get free shipping....but really: why don't you just go to Target or Best Buy--or better yet, if you still have one, your local inde music store-- on the day it comes out and get it for $9.99 (and probably a special $15.99 bonus version or something like that.) Steely Dan fans have a rep for being smart and snarky--some of you make people thing SD fans are plain dumb!

2) You can BET that the release date will slip. MTC was in the can months before it came out--but then it was delayed a week. Kamakiriad was delayed for months and weeks. Can't remember about The Nightfly. The Nightfly Trilogy also had its release date rolled back--and it was only new remastering and packaging.

Just my two piasters...



Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 10:57:59 ET
Posted by: Michael, @vic

Apparently you have an issue, for whatever reason. Imported albums generally cost much more than domestic (for various reasons). However, albums sold domestically usually cost between $9-14, so what's the justification for jacking it up to $20? An album costs the labels about a nickel to manufacture, cheaper than ever before, so where's this extra $5 coming from? Granted I'll wind up buying Don's album but I can't see this as anything other than the major labels rooking consumers.

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 09:21:38 ET
Posted by: vic, Atlantic Beach, Long Island

Michael - "It's not an imported album"? Go f*&k yourself!

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 08:50:34 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, still curbing my enthusiasm

If - and I stress IF - Donald's new one (Sunken Condos?) is out on October 16th ...

How does this fit with the artist himself still touring with The Dukes in Japan at the end of the month and primo November?
Can we expect a single release or two prior to the album one of these days pretty soon? Nothing to find about that yet. Also, the Reprise/Warner site has no news on anything Donald so far. And neither has his own site.

I have to say, despite the album seemingly being announced for presale on amazon and also my domestic (Norwegian) record shop "Platekompaniet" with order numbers and all, I'm still highly skeptical.
When they (Warner) has delayed the release this much despite the fact that the album was mastered and ready for print months ago, wouldn't that be because they want the whole marketing and distribution apparatus to work in a way where it's possible to generate as much buzz as possible, including promo gigs, TV appearences, interviews and so on?
It's only two and a half month till Oct.16. At least a single should be out very soon if this new info is legit. As an example; Diana Krall's new album, produced by T-Bone Burnett, comes out on Oct.2, and the machine is already working full throttle for it. First single was out a couple of days ago. If nothing official from Warner reaches us within two weeks, Donald's new one can hardly be considered a prestigious release from the mighty Warner Group, and if that's how they prioritize, they could as well have released it a long time ago.

Just sayin' ...

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 08:25:11 ET
Posted by: Proud, NJ fan

Lucky for me it's a 2012 release, because my state's governor inked a deal with Amazon to start collecting sales tax on purchases in 2013.

Shipping Details : (order will arrive in 1 shipment)
Shipping Method: One-Day Shipping
Items: $19.59
Shipping & Handling: $12.98
Total Before Tax: $32.57
Estimated Tax To Be Collected: $0.00
Order Total: $32.57

Delivery estimate: Oct. 16, 2012
1 "Sunken Condos"
Donald Fagen; Audio CD; $19.59
Available for Pre-order
Sold by: Amazon.com

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 08:05:31 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Finally some news about Don's new album (title and release date). Not sure how I feel about that rip-off price, though. It's not an imported album.

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 07:57:35 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, SoBe - Land Of Sunken Condos

Thanks for the report Steve.

Looking forward to the show tonight in Hollywood.......

F-L-A that is........

Date: Wed, July 25, 2012, 07:45:38 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, in Kroneland

Wow. Hope those rumours are true and not only a scam developed to a larger extent than most.

Date: Tues, July 24, 2012, 23:27:30 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa

My wife and I just got back from the Clearwater, FL "Dukes" performance.
Great Show.
Same set list as the ones most recently posted.
I enjoyed all the songs but my faves were "Who's That Lady ?"
"Pretzel Logic" and Boz's "Miss Sun".
My wife loved Catherine Russell's cover of Janis Joplin plus "Reelin.." and anything Boz or Michael did.
Really fun evening. The place was packed. The house was rockin'...Donald looked like he was having a wonderful time and his obvious joy more than made up for no "I'll Be Good to You" on the show.
As we were waiting for the encore, a large older man a couple of rows behind me let out a moose like noise that George "The Animal" Steele would have been proud of. He was a mountain man of sorts, but he really wanted more "Dukes" instead of more cowbell.
I can see myself replicating that sound in the years to come to give my wife fond memories of the night we shared with The Dukes of September.

Date: Tues, July 24, 2012, 22:56:30 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Kewl. Sunken Condos.

Sounds about right.

I pawn my Krone for a ride uptown


Date: Tues, July 24, 2012, 22:16:04 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

kulebaba, that's the pre-sale price and it is the same for the upcoming Van Morrison album. On the Amazon page there is a price guarantee, that states if the album is released at a lower price (until the end of the first day of release) they will credit your card the difference.

I really don't know what the typical MSRP is for new releases these days.

Date: Tues, July 24, 2012, 22:04:26 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba, CD price?

Does everyone else see a sticker price of $19.59 for this? That blows my mind.

Of course, Amazon is known for showing different prices to different people...

Date: Tues, July 24, 2012, 21:13:53 ET
Posted by: Hee Haw Mike, San Diego

Will Donald launch a solo tour to promote this CD? Donald will be in Japan with the Dukes around the time this recording is supposed to be released.

Date: Tues, July 24, 2012, 20:49:37 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, SoBe

Love the new Fagen solo title!

"Sunken Condos"

That it what we have here in SoBe right now!
True Dat!

Love how it will drop on the same day as the new
KISS project. Made me laugh.


Date: Tues, July 24, 2012, 20:16:24 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

Holy shit... fantastic find guys.
Fucking awesome. Can't friggen wait.

Date: Tues, July 24, 2012, 20:02:45 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour! Shot for Donald!


I have no idea if that info is legit, but I am jumping out of my skin at the very thought of it.

I noticed you can pre-order the album now on Amazon:


For those who care, I also see a new Van Morrison scheduled to be released on 10/2, with the very appropriate name: Born To Sing: No Plan B


Date: Tues, July 24, 2012, 19:42:35 ET
Posted by: drewslo, san luis obispo

If last link didn't work, try this:


Date: Tues, July 24, 2012, 19:39:46 ET
Posted by: drewslo, san luis obispo

Here's link to new Fagen in October from Steve Hoffman site:


Date: Tues, July 24, 2012, 11:40:56 ET
Posted by: PGE, Ask a question, win two tickets

A promo run by Live Nation and cleveland.com where you post a question to The Dukes and could win two tickets for the August 14 show


Date: Mon, July 23, 2012, 18:24:34 ET
Posted by: Fife, Baltimore, eh

Wow it's been awhile! Heehaa Mike I've seen Donald dancing at the end of shows many times I really enjoy it and I always have a chuckle.

Anyhow I'm here to see if there are any peeps planning to go the Beacon show on the 1st of August or the Atlantic City on the 5th.

I'm really excited about these shows!!

Date: Mon, July 23, 2012, 16:33:48 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Sunny SoBe

Dukes Alpharetta (Atlanta) Review & Pictures:


Date: Mon, July 23, 2012, 15:45:34 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the new rooster, Ohio

Thanks Chris

Date: Mon, July 23, 2012, 12:51:17 ET
Posted by: PGE, Interested in a Michigan master class?

Spotted this thread on the Gear Page board:

Jon Herington (and Steely Dan Rhythm Section) Master Class!!

"The event will be on Thursday, August 16th at Community Christian Church in Sterling Heights Michigan"

(The rhythm section= Freddie Washington, Jim Beard and Shannon Forrest)


Date: Mon, July 23, 2012, 12:24:05 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Wasn't having a bad day - just making a joke. No offense intended. Enjoy the show, Klaus.

Date: Sun, July 22, 2012, 21:54:41 ET
Posted by: KD, aasdf

Oh, come off it. It was a smartass joke made by a fan of a band known for smartass humor.

Get over yourselves.

Date: Sun, July 22, 2012, 20:25:45 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the new rooster, Ohio

Thanks Hutch and sorry to all and Jim 4 biting back but there was no reason to insult me I was using this board for what it is intended for to check w other Steely fans w questions about Don and Walt. I hope Chris was just having a bad day no harm no foul

Date: Sun, July 22, 2012, 19:07:01 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Klaus, I'm with you. Chris, that was insulting. He's trying to get to the damn show.

Date: Sun, July 22, 2012, 16:31:35 ET
Posted by: Klaus with a new rooster,

Hey Chris fuck you I seen more Steely Dan shows than u can count

Date: Sun, July 22, 2012, 13:55:25 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Soggy SoBe

Thanks for the report JT

Date: Sun, July 22, 2012, 13:23:07 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Klaus, don't you have a grandson you can bother with these types of questions? ;)

Date: Sun, July 22, 2012, 11:47:38 ET
Posted by: Klaus with a new rooster, oHIO


Date: Sun, July 22, 2012, 10:57:43 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Klaus, I just saw your post. Take the Credit Card you used to buy the ticket. Even with a receipt, I was required to show the credit card in order to get my tic at the SD Vegas show at the Palms.

Date: Sun, July 22, 2012, 10:44:34 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Got back to BR at 2:30 A.M. Central. Great, Great set last night by The Dukes before a vey small crowd at The Warf in Orange Beach, Alabama. Security told me that they pre-sold 3,500, and the venue holds 10,000, so you can imagine how it looked. The floor, where I was sitting, was pretty well sold out. Crowd was much younger that previous crowds that have been described here. They were up early and often for dancing. Very enthusiastic, beach/vacation crowd. Set List:
People Get Yourself
Who's That Lady
Sweet Soul Music
I keep Forgettin'
Trouble Man: Donald was just terrific on this!
Miss Sun: I have to stop here and say a word about Catherine Russell . Let's face it folks, she is just a force of nature. Everything she did, she owned. Catherine has one thing in abundance that sets her apart: a ton of Church. It especially showed in Taking It To The Streets and Piece of my Heart. She was just fabulous. Crowd loved her.
Grapevine: Fine job by Carolyn.
You Never can Tell
Love's Gonna Live Here (Again): I thought this was a stroke of genius to replace Summer in the City. It gave Carolyn a chance to sing a duet with Donald, which she absolutely nailed. Very good idea with the arrangement. Beautiful and funky.
If you Don't Know Me by Now.
What a Fool Believes: Crowd is now officially going nuts! The security was very tight...no pictures AT ALL, and no dancing in the aisles.
Hey 19
Love TKO
Piece of My Heart: I just can't say enough about Catherine!
Tell the Truth
Low Down
Taking It To The Streets
Pretzel Logic: Crowd really liked this one after what I thought was a lukewarm response to Peg.
Thank You
PGY outro.

Great show, well worth the 15 1/2 hour road trip from Baton Rouge to Orange Beach and back. Hope they get a better crowd in the rest of the Forida Shows. I think that the threat of storms killed the crowd, especially the walkups. Weather is always an issue at The Warf, however,weather was perfect throughout the show last night. Met some very nice people from Vicksburg, Mississippi who had never seen Donald before. I don't think that they left disappointed.

Date: Sat, July 21, 2012, 22:38:26 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Klaus, unfortunately can't be of much help here. Maybe some others have had an experience that will be of use. But typically online services send a receipt to your email account. If you got an email receipt, forward it to a friend with a working printer and have him/her print it out for you.

I just got back from vaca and am getting pretty jacked for next week's show here in St Augustine.

Date: Sat, July 21, 2012, 20:35:48 ET
Posted by: jim Taylor, The Warf @ Orange Beach

I left a free tic @ will-call. If you are in the *rea just ask for free tic @ row R. ;-). The weather appears to be holding and we are looking forward to a great show. Will report set list in morning.

Date: Sat, July 21, 2012, 17:59:24 ET
Posted by: Gear, Slut

Not sure if this video about Walter's guitars was posted before.


Date: Sat, July 21, 2012, 17:49:44 ET
Posted by: Klaus and the new rooster, Ohio

Hey Dean/ Purchased my tix from stubhub and it says to print out receiet in case they ask for it at show. My printer is down and I contacted stub hub and they said just take there phone number. Do you forsee any probs?

Date: Sat, July 21, 2012, 14:33:19 ET
Posted by: Hee Haw Mike, San Diego

Nowadays, Donald spends more time on stage than in the studio so all his early stage fright anxieties have probably just vanished. Donald might even come out dancing in front of the audience in the future.

Date: Sat, July 21, 2012, 12:29:59 ET
Posted by: LR, SoBe

San Antonio Review:


Date: Sat, July 21, 2012, 12:14:25 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, SoBe

Wonder if they will pull out "Deacon Blues"
tonight like they used to do in '92 during
the NYRNSR Tour?

Still my favorite live version of DB with
the late, great and beautiful Mindy Jostyn
on the fiddle. It was just stellar.

Donald just sang the sh*t out of it back in
day in Chicago that year. The roar after
they concluded was deafening and to this day
is still the longest ovation I have ever heard
after a Fagen/Steely Dan song.

Thanks for the report from San Antonio
JT. One of my favorite theatres and
city. Wish I could have been there.

Have a great show tonight all and I hope
the band enjoys a few days off here in the

Date: Sat, July 21, 2012, 10:39:23 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, South of the North Pole

It's true. He has also stated that it's just in the relatively few recent years that he's become really confident in his role as an artist and entertainer, and 100% accepted that this is what he does, and that he actually has the world of true music lovers and colleagues on a string. I think his conversation with Ray Charles post mortem is a manifestation of this change, and also his sitting in with Levon's band probably loosened up something for him. Top notch musicians that work(ed) in a very different way than he always did with the Dan and on solo projects.

Date: Sat, July 21, 2012, 09:15:07 ET
Posted by: Michael,

One thing I've noticed is that the older Don gets, the less isolated he becomes. You see him working a lot more with other musicians, touring and making guest appearances all over the place. Even his new album is supposed to be "lighter in tone." I guess whatever doom & gloom clouds were lingering overhead have given way to sunny blue skies.

Date: Sat, July 21, 2012, 08:07:04 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -

Re: Don looking dopey.

That is The Don being in his true element right there. I was standing right next to his rhodes by the fence when they played Stockholm back in... was it the summer of 2007? He looked like that throughout the entire show, and it was a blessing to witness.

Nothing dopey about it all in this humble steeler's opinion. Just a maestro being a maestro.

Date: Fri, July 20, 2012, 22:56:49 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Since we are well within the 72 hour rule, I have a ticket for tomorrow night's Dukes show in Gulf Shores, Alabama. It is an excellent seat on the 18th row. Due to a sad set of circumstances, my friend will not be using it.It goes FREE to the first DanFan who e-mails me before I leave tomorrow morning. If you can't go, but know someone in the area who might like to go, e-mail me the particulars and I will hook up with them. I can either meet you or leave at will call. you will have to sit next to me, but hell, it's only a 2 hour show! ;-) I will be driving from Baton Rouge to the venue and it takes about 4 hours. If I don't hear from a Bluebooker, I will try to sell it at the door. This ticket should be right in front of Boz Scaggs. Let me know. I leave about 9 AM Central for the show.

Date: Fri, July 20, 2012, 15:12:09 ET
Posted by: Cal Knoser,

If that was WB, he'd just stand there on stage dead still and wouldn't indicate any emotions even if he were standing in poopy.

Date: Fri, July 20, 2012, 15:08:56 ET
Posted by: T. Bell,

B. Norchea:

I think DF does that to simultaneously stave off his on-stage anxiety and kind of mock ABB by overdoing his feelings toward the music.

He does look dopey doing that though.:)

Date: Fri, July 20, 2012, 08:09:29 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

Houston Press review gave accolades to John Huntington? Figures.

Date: Fri, July 20, 2012, 08:02:04 ET
Posted by: B. Norchea,

Love how dopey DF looks from 5:03-5:11.:))


Date: Thurs, July 19, 2012, 23:11:28 ET
Posted by: To Wit,

I think that sounds even worse

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2012, 17:07:35 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy

Peachheadz in the Dandom will dig the ABB's version of Same Thing, which they covered and recorded in the mid 90s.


Date: Thurs, July 19, 2012, 11:35:42 ET
Posted by: To, Clarify

Jon and guitar tech were fumbling around with Jon's gear.

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2012, 11:03:43 ET
Posted by: Loan me a, pay per use phone card

"Was thinking next go round they should include Boz's "Loan me a Dime" with Jon taking on Duane Allman's classic solos in that classic - that would be something to hear."

In fact, I saw Boz solo with Jon on guitar in 2009. Loan me a Dime was the encore and Jon's solo on it got the best crowd response of the night.

From their kidding around on stage, they seem to be pretty good friends. Herington was fumbling around with the guitar tech before a song, so Boz was stalling with some banter and looked over at him with a sarcastic "hurry up" look.

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2012, 01:10:46 ET
Posted by: JT, SA

That would be "Loan Me a Dime"

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2012, 01:01:17 ET
Posted by: JT, SA

Was thinking next go round they should include Boz's "Spare me a Dime" with Jon taking on Duane Allman's classic solos in that classic - that would be something to hear. Maybe 2014.

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2012, 00:32:49 ET
Posted by: JT, SA

Hee haw. Donald sang country in San Antonio tonight - hope tmrws not the gospel morning. "This is the first time to try this - here's a Buck Owen song" Then Don and Carolynn sing a beautiful, jazzy version of Love's Gonna Live Here (Again). Replaced Summer in the City in otherwise same setlist. Sold out, very loud, very appreciative crowd. Majestic is a restored grand old "atmospheric sky" theater built in the 1920's. Dan songs got the loudest cheers but have to say Boz stole the show: Love TKO, Miss Sun duet with Catherine and Lowdown were fantastic and crowd ate em up. That guy still has such a great voice and great style. Think only Pretzel Logic topped that trifecta tonight. Saw Dukes at the Chicago Theater (another absolutely beautiful theater) last tour, think both editions equally good. at both shows with my 24 year old son. if your on the fence for one of the remaining shows - go.

Date: Wed, July 18, 2012, 22:19:52 ET
Posted by: Pete, New York City

For NYC area fans of the Band 'Monkey House':

The Bitter End - NYC - Thursday, July 26!

Asked to describe the Monkey House style, Don laughingly offers, �Pop songs with too many chords! There�s a lot of melodic content in there and strong choruses, too. It was a secret of Steely Dan that if you had something that stuck as a chorus, you could get away with improvised solos.� Steely Dan is an obvious touchstone stylistically. Breithaupt, in fact, is the author of an acclaimed book on Steely Dan�s Aja album, part of Continuum Publishing's long-running 33-1/3 series"

Date: Wed, July 18, 2012, 19:23:14 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, SoBe

Houston Dukes Review:


Thanks for the report DB16

Date: Wed, July 18, 2012, 19:02:59 ET
Posted by: Skate a little slower now, ih

Granted Hey Nineteen was a Top 10 hit, but at this point I think that parody would be lost on everybody but...us.

Date: Wed, July 18, 2012, 17:39:05 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

hicnic - I see that near the top it says, "absurd t-shirts". There's you're answer. Nothing more than that.

Date: Wed, July 18, 2012, 16:31:02 ET
Posted by: Hicnic,

Can someone help me with this? I was checking out Dan shirts on amazon and came upon this one - Steely Dan and the Protoplasm Man Fight.


I don't get this - i searched to see if it was some reference in Naked Lunch but i didn't catch it.

Any help appreciated.

Date: Wed, July 18, 2012, 14:54:33 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the quick

Thanks, Dean, Doc and Pixeleen!

Date: Wed, July 18, 2012, 13:10:00 ET
Posted by: RP, NC

This hit the news wire today. It sounds horrible.



Date: Wed, July 18, 2012, 08:25:30 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

I saw the Dukes last night in Houston at Woodlands; great show. Same setlist as has recently been reported. Here it is, with brief commentary:

People Get Up and Drive Your Funky Soul-I loved it, think it's a great intro song
Who's That Lady-One of my favorites of the night
Sweet Soul Music-Pretty good, liked how they changed the verses to reference themselves
I Keep Forgettin' - good performance
Trouble Man - one of the highlights of the night, as expected
Kid Charlemagne - excellent as usual, I think Jon's second guitar solo in this song was better than usual
That Same Thing - one of my least favorite songs of the night. It's not a bad song by any means, and of course, it was well-executed. But it kind of took the wind out of the sails a little bit I thought. Did anyone else notice that the female vocalists left the stage during this one (or I think they did)?
Miss Sun - somewhat surprising a showstopper, really good performance
I Heard it Through the Grapevine - Really loved this one, one of my favorites
You Never Can Tell - pretty standard, cool Michael McDonald accordion solo
Summer in the City - loved it, loved the guitar solo at the end
If You Don't Know Me By Now - great performance
What A Fool Believes - got the crowd into it
Hey Nineteen- short piano solo/ "reharmonization" beforehand, Donald shouts out: "you know this one, huh?" great performance, kind of refreshing to not hear the story in the middle of it, great trumpet solo at the end
Love T.K.O - really enjoyed it, although it changed the pace of things
Piece of My Heart - not one of my favorites
Tell the Truth - see above, really wish they would have kept the Brothers Johnson song, or came up with a different song
Lowdown - as great as I expected, definitely got the crowd more involved
Takin' it to the Streets- Michael McDonald played a cool gospel/ragtime piano solo leading into it, by far the best of his catalogue, Catherine Russell takes over the song
Reelin' in the Years - like Kid Charlemagne, I think Jon's guitar solo at the end was better than normal

Peg - always fun when Michael McDonald sings the background vocals to this song
Pretzel Logic - thrilled to hear this one, as I have never seen it live in-person, great performance by everyone
Thank You - to be honest, this isn't one of my favorite Sly and the Family Stone tunes. Although it has a great bass part and is super funky, I've always found it a bit repetitive. However, I loved it when the Dukes played it last night.
Them Changes - kind of vamped right into after Thank You, Michael McDonald sounded great, and it was an excellent closing number

Drive Your Funky Soul Reprise - And that's that

Anyway, it was a fantastic show, and I might be seeing them again in Tuscaloosa in 10 days. Vocally, the Dukes were better than I expected them to be based on various recordings/clips I've heard, but maybe that's because it was live. They started at about 7:50 and ended about 9:55; those times are very approximate. Weather was perfect. If you can handle the scarcely changed setlist and won't be disappointed by the fact that they're playing covers, I absolutely recommend this show.

Date: Tues, July 17, 2012, 19:27:47 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, SoBe

"I saw zero illuminated phone or camera screens in the crowd, meaning YouTube clips are probably scarce. It seems the older crowd was enjoying the moment instead of documenting. What were they thinking?"

-Dukes Of September - Austin, TX 2012 Review



Date: Mon, July 16, 2012, 21:48:50 ET
Posted by: Buck, Tampa, FL

It's a real shame the Dukes scrapped "I'll be Good to You" so early in the tour. The performance video on the Jimmy Fallon show seems to have vanished online too. I can't find it anywhere.

Date: Mon, July 16, 2012, 15:52:39 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, SoBe

Here is a Vancouver review:


Date: Mon, July 16, 2012, 15:46:33 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, SoBe

Still no reports from the Austin City Limits show on Saturday???????

Wonder if they were rolling cameras for a PBS air date?

Or recording sound for an Austin City Limits CD?

Date: Mon, July 16, 2012, 10:18:15 ET
Posted by: Greg M, white plains

thanks, LR, for the posts.

Date: Sun, July 15, 2012, 12:42:32 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, SoBe

Dallas Review & Photos:


Thanks to Sue & Gabe for the reports from Washington & Dallas.

Date: Sun, July 15, 2012, 09:17:08 ET
Posted by: swgabriel, Plano, TX

The Dukes of September Show was tremendous in Dallas (Verizon Theatre) last night. The setlist was consistent with the last few shows--no changes. The band was tight--near flawless. Jon Herington and Freddie Washington were fantastic as was the entire band. Catharine Russell blew us away--she actually gave me chills. There were so many great things about the show; however, the best was seeing Donald Fagen so happy and animated on stage. He smiled & spoke a lot and incorporated Texas into some lyrics. Boz Scaggs is from Plano, TX, so the audience was wild for him. I yelled the loudest when the opening note of Pretzel Logic began. I was so loud, that Donald smirked right at me (we were only 10 rows back).

Date: Sat, July 14, 2012, 21:05:26 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,

Thanks for all you do here Jim.

Date: Sat, July 14, 2012, 19:58:49 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

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- The Dukes To Play Japan
- Dukes Reviews Requested
- Donald up for hometown award
- Chicago Tribune: Howard Levy re-imagines harmonica
- Excellent Article on Keith Carlock
- Looking forward to Herington's New One
- REDUX: New CD by Jon Herington
- REDUX: Monkey House To Play First Manhattan Show 7/26, Bitter End
- UPDATED: Dukes Dates Reference Guide


- NEW! Need 7/15 Austin Tix
- Looking for Interlochen, 8/17 tickets


- SPOILER: 7/3-Santa Barbara: Review
- SPOILER: 7/6-Woodinville/Seattle: "I highly recommend this show"
- SPOILER: 7/6-Woodinville/Seattle: "no disappointments"
- SPOILEResque: 7/10: Denver Dukes Shots, reviews
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- Dukes Reviews Requested
- Recent Set Lists Revisited


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Date: Sat, July 14, 2012, 13:17:44 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beach

Some really great photos from the Dukes Denver show:




Date: Sat, July 14, 2012, 12:50:06 ET
Posted by: Paul Newman,

FYI, SD Alumni, Cynthia Calhoun, will be headlining in a few clubs next week in Moscow and Perm.

Details are posted on her website, www.cynthiacalhoun.com.

Not as cool as touring with Donald and Walter but pretty damn cool just the same, LOL.

Date: Fri, July 13, 2012, 13:48:35 ET
Posted by: Steve, Here at the Custardome!

I meant to also post:

If they are recording, I wonder if permissions, rights and royalties play into their song choices. The Steely Dan, McD and Boz hits augmented by the covers played would sure make for a consumer-friendly disc offered at Starbucks counters, etc.

Date: Fri, July 13, 2012, 13:46:44 ET
Posted by: Steve, Here at the Custardome!

Anyone able to tell if they are recording this Dukes tour for CD or DVD?

Happy Summer everyone!

Date: Thurs, July 12, 2012, 11:21:26 ET
Posted by: geo, boston

Andy - That's because he would get his ass kicked.

Beast w/o A Name- No need to let Greg M know when Jeff P passed. He knows more about this band than you ever will. No offense.

Date: Thurs, July 12, 2012, 10:12:22 ET
Posted by: "Happy Tyme" Pazzo, Fire Player

Re Jeff P.: Another victim of that fucking "dust". That fucking "Bear" nailed him. One of life's bitter ironies: As we chase and nail one beast, another one we thought we could outrun, nails us.

Date: Thurs, July 12, 2012, 10:00:01 ET
Posted by: Hicnic,

Excellent article on Keith -


Date: Thurs, July 12, 2012, 09:27:55 ET
Posted by: fact, check

Pocaro died in 1992. The 20th anniversary of his passing is next month. At the time, he was in the news for more or less having replaced Max Weinberg after it was reported that things clicked with Springsteen when JP was the drummer on an Elvis tribute he recorded.

Date: Thurs, July 12, 2012, 07:47:02 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Name, Above The Ether, NJ

Greg M, Jeff Porcaro died in 1991 (I believe). A tribute concert happened in 1992 at the (then) Universal Ampitheater in LA, which I sadly missed. The show included Donald Fagen and George Harrison among many others. So I don't think he could have been considered for the drum stool on the 1993 tour.

Strongest drummer they've used onstage ? Dennis Chambers by a mile. All the others... Pete Erskine, Ricky Lawson and now Keith Carlock, have all been great. There's something to be said for Keith Carlock and Jon Herrington's longevity in the now many different touring bands since 2000 and 2003.

I thought Jeff Young was a great addition on keyboards because he rounded out the backing vocalists on certain songs, which in my mind as a listener, provided a better blend.

That said, Warren Bernhardt, John Beasley, Ted Baker and now Jim Beard have all brought different chops, different influences and different flavors to each band. I've enjoyed the variety over the years.

What I do miss is D+W's willingness to toy with the arrangements a bit. While this concept may not have worked so well on Reelin' 93 and 94, I thought the blending of soprano sax with 2 flutes was a brilliant use of a smaller bandstand. Come on guys, how 'bout a bass clarinet, JUST ONCE, on Babylon Sisters. Let your inner Brian Wilson out for a test drive in public..

I'm just sayin....


Date: Wed, July 11, 2012, 13:30:24 ET
Posted by: MM, T

Are they aware of what he wrote in his senior will at S. Brunswick High School?

Date: Wed, July 11, 2012, 12:20:07 ET
Posted by: PGE, 三人の男の旅

Yes, The Dukes travels east and will be playing and singing in Japan on these dates:

October 29: Nagoya
October 30: Osaka
November 1: Tokyo


Date: Wed, July 11, 2012, 12:13:17 ET
Posted by: PGE, The price is right?

Donald Fagen up for new South Brunswick alumni award:


Let's hope this doesn't distract him as far as getting the solo album pressed and published is concerned

Date: Tues, July 10, 2012, 17:56:30 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Actually, "It's like this" I think you are the one who needs to loosen up on this. All the Birch and Bernard links were good. Solid and enjoyable stuff.

On the other hand, only your post had a high douchebag quotient, IMO. But then again, that seems to be your style, as you user name would indicate. And for the record, I have no idea what you meant in that last, totally unnecessary response to Brutus.

Date: Tues, July 10, 2012, 14:51:33 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick

Thanks, geo.

Date: Tues, July 10, 2012, 08:40:28 ET

I have to admit when I first saw the set-list with You can never tell
I thoought it was a euphimism for the return of the bewhitching and
beguilling SHAKEDOWN STREET. Wrong again!! ps: too lazy to look up
and correct my sure to be many spelling f*ck-ups!!

Date: Mon, July 09, 2012, 21:46:01 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown

Thanks, SueDave: enjoyed your report.

Sparkle of your China; wow. Note to self: no dancing at future danfests.

Date: Mon, July 09, 2012, 16:08:14 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Look! No hands!

@ It's Like This:

I'm so sorry if I hurt your feelings towards fusion in general.
However there was nothing in my post that suggested all fusion is soulless. Your fine example proves the opposite. If you're among those lucky few who has never even heard other fusion than the really great stuff, never been frustrated over what some (me) percieves as a glorious waste of technical capability, you should just be glad I didn't link to any of that shit in my post. Because you would've gone there, and had your superior ears damaged for life.
To my simple everyday ears, that kind of syndrom ("Look at me, I can play very strange figures and scales and every possible variation of them extremely fast with my toes all night long for no musical reason!") is a syndrom that strikes otherwise talented guitarists far more often than is the case for other cathegories of musicians. And my context was the praise of Jon Herington for being immune to that guitarist-specific syndrom, ok?

Re: Porcaro
I tend to agree that he would've probably stuck to Toto. They did a tour in 92/93. But we'll never know, of course unless Donald reveals some secrets from one of his conversations with great artists that are no longer with us on his next record. He sometimes has them, you know. ;o)

Date: Mon, July 09, 2012, 15:06:26 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Greg, regarding Porcaro. JP would have been awesome as the drummer on the 93' tour (or any tour, frankly). Like Carlock he was very versatile and I think could have handled all the stuff with ease. But wasn't Toto still touring when Jeff died? I have to assume (yes, I know) his own band would have taken precedence over the Dan tour. But we can dream, I guess.

Sparkle, that is a very disturbing video. Shit like that gives white people a bad name.

Date: Mon, July 09, 2012, 14:55:23 ET
Posted by: Sparkle of your China, CO


Date: Mon, July 09, 2012, 14:41:29 ET
Posted by: Greg M, xx

all that assumes JP didn't die in 1992, of course...

Date: Mon, July 09, 2012, 14:40:24 ET
Posted by: Greg M, White Plains, NY

I always wondered if Jeff Porcaro was (or would have been) first choice for the 1993 tour.

While, I love Erskine's performances on that tour, I think Porcaro would have been a great addition to the '93 citizen SD band. Perhaps even a stronger drummer for the Dan at the time...

I wonder if he would have been game?

Date: Mon, July 09, 2012, 14:03:32 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,

BTW "It's like this":

S. Gadd is absolutely wonderful on that track you linked. It's amazing how Steve didn't crash and burn sooner than he did. If I remember correctly he did an incredible amount of "chasing after" back then

Date: Mon, July 09, 2012, 11:20:20 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,

Greetings "It's, Like This" -

Very nice offering from you. Yes, we know Lenny White, Alphonse Mouson, etal. were/are terrific at what they do.

However, it's too bad you feel the need to respond in a supercilious and competitive/defiant and/or otherwise douche-slack manner. Relax and enjoy all the musical goodness that surrounds you, my friend.

Date: Mon, July 09, 2012, 09:54:47 ET
Posted by: It's, Like This

Birch & Bernard - with all due respect, this rendering stands head and shoulders above the rest (tight-asses can spare me the drivel about "heartless, souless fusion music" and invest your energy instead in some ears) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NEPqYCkrHM

Date: Mon, July 09, 2012, 00:52:27 ET
Posted by: suedave, Sunny Seattle

Winding down from a warm and sunny busy weekend here in Seattle - the weekend started with a great evening at Chateau Ste. Michelle winery for the sold out Dukes of September show on Friday night. Since I wasn't a big fan of the Dukes 2010 tour, I almost didn't go, but purchased the last set of tickets available on Monday and ended up with 1st row center. It was too close to see the band unless they walked up to the mike in the front of the stage - which some did from time to time. Could See Mike McD head behind his piano and music stand, Boz in full view off to my right and Donald's head, knees and tennis shoes behind his piano. Good view of Freddy and Jon Herington and the plexiglass drum kit. Fortunately the the sound was great in that spot, and hey, that's most important anyway.

Before I get to the setlist, I should say that we had an unusually wet and dreary June here in Seattle, and Friday was only the 3rd day of glorious, warm sun. The crowd would have been happy no matter who was playing. But the crowd was truly pleased and it wasn't just the sun or wine.

Band comes on stage at 7:15
Opening song was Drive Your Funky Soul - band playing with Cat Russell as main singer, she and Carolyn both sound great
Who's that Lady - Boz & MM with band
Sweet Soul Music - DF, Boz, and MM take turns singing lead. Listen carefully to this song and you may be lucky enough to hear references to Nightfly, Boz Scaggs, and White Lightning (MM) replacing original lyrics! They had fun on this one.
I Keep Forgetting - MM, Walt Weispfkof (sp) hitting all the notes - sounded great all night. Everyone had a good night.
Trouble Man (Marvin Gaye) - DF with melodica in hand but mostly singing. Beard moved to the Steinway for this tune.
Kid Charlemagne - DF, killer solo by Jon Herington
The Same Thing (Willy Dixon) - Boz
Miss Sun - Boz, Cat duets on this one, really quite nice back & forth. Their tones work well together.
Gladys Night version of I heard it thru the Grapevine with Carolyn taking the mike right in front of me.
You Never Can Tell (Chuck Berry) - Boz on lead, band all smiles on this song
Summer in the City - DF on lead, listen for sound effects! DF into this one. Nice solo by JH
If you don't know me by now - MM
What a Fool Believes - MM - either this song got people dancing, or I only just noticed they started.
Beautiful intro on piano by DF - lead in to Hey 19. People are up, Carolyn & Cat are laughing. Great horn work by Michael Leonhart
Love TKO - Boz really shines on this song. 3rd horn player (forget his name) plays flute. Actually, when DF introduced Walt W as playing sax & flute. From my seat, I was not able to see WW, so it's possible he was also playing flute on this one.
8:27, DF says - it's not dark yet - what is this...Alaska?
DF introduces Erma Franklin's (Aretha's sister) version of Piece of My Heart - sung by Cat Russell. Wow.
Tell the Truth (Ray Charles) - Cat & MM
Lowdown - people are up again! Except for the 1st & 2nd rows (what's wrong with this picture?)
8:43 - Blue skies, green trees and it still not dark!
Nice intro by MM to Takin' it to the Streets
Reeling in the Years

Pretzel Logic
Thank you falettin me
Them Changes
The three amigos leave the stage, the band finishes up with Drive your Funky Soul (reprise)

Bumped into Walt W. after the show and chatted a bit. I really enjoyed this show quite a bit, and told him so. He agreed that the set list was great and thought it flowed better than the 2010 show. He attributed it to Donald being the genius musical director who got to select the tunes!

I highly recommend this show to anyone on the fence. Hope you leave as happy as I did.

Date: Sun, July 08, 2012, 21:05:50 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, on a beautiful day

You're most welcome, Steely bro Brutus.

Actually, I think Mr. Birch must be the best forgotten and never-very-famous-anyway soul/funk drummer in history. And River Boulevard is a perfect morning song that really sets the day.

Date: Sun, July 08, 2012, 20:52:55 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,

Dug so very deeply by me Jazzassin. Thank you. Never even heard of him. Great Stuff.

Date: Sun, July 08, 2012, 20:13:21 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, River Boulevard

Brutus, that was indeed some funky Purdie! Fantastic stuff!

But try this one on ... I've had it on vinyl for decades, but it just recently came up on Youtube:


It's "River Boulevard" with the Pointer Sisters from their self titled debut album (1973).
The drummer was Gaylord Birch, and this shows the guy could compete with any drummer in history in terms of funkiness, even Bernard! From the break at 04:02 and further on Gaylord takes off like a rocket, and God knows what he had for breakfast, but I want some of that!

Date: Sun, July 08, 2012, 18:58:27 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,

Noble Brothers and Sisters of Stainless Steelers of Daniel: Check out "Pretty" Purdie's groove on this one:

NOBODY'S funkier than Bernardo on this one...


Date: Sun, July 08, 2012, 15:32:00 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, more Dangential music to your ears

I'm looking much forward to check out Herington's new one in it's entirety. What's a bit special about his solo albums compared to so many other session axes', is that while many others tend to deliver music that's technically flawless and impressing, often in a kind of fusion genre, instrumental and everything evolving around the guitar parts, Jon's own music are mostly very sweet and melodic pop songs or trad bluses-rock style.
When technically challenging fusion-style music is really good, it is really good of course, but to my ears 8/10 guitar based records up that alley is mostly quite annoying show-off music with less soul than a broken chainsaw. That, unfortunately, goes for some former SD guitarists who's name I wont bother to mention as well, imho.
Jon, however writes excellent pop songs, and the focus is much more on the songs themselves and the lyrics and vocal. Which I like very much. If I'd heard a typical Herington song and didn't know he was Steely Dan's current guitar god, I think I'd never guess he was. Not that his playing on his own material or the covers he also does with his trio isn't virtuosic enough. Because his technique and especially his stylistic knowledge and taste is absolutely brilliant. But he always uses his skills for a purpose outside the pure show-off, and seems to have a very modest attitude to guitar playing. He never plays a note too much, and never tries to camouflage lack of songwriting ability behind impressing technique. On the contrary, he has that ability I think. So when the solo comes, it's usually very tasty, focused and to-the-point. To me, Jon H and Keith C is two of the best things that ever happened to the "modern version" of Steely Dan.

And now for a couple of links to fine Dangential music ...

It's no secret that Don & Walt likes Horace Silver, and especially his "Song For My Father" very much. Enough to borrow the intro for Rikki anyway.
Here's a live version by Horace Silver Sextet from 1988:


The tenor sax player in Silver's sextet was Ralph Bowen, and in 1992 Bowen's own quintet released a brilliant album called "Movin' On" on the Criss Cross label.
The lineup was Ralph Bowen (ts), Jim Beard (p), Jon Herington (g), Anthony Jackson (b) and Ben Perowsky (dr).
Check out this page for short song previews and album purchase:


One of the songs is even a hommage to Horace Silver, and is called "A Little Silver In My Pocket". Enjoy!

We gotta do something while waiting for Godonald, you know. :D

Date: Sun, July 08, 2012, 11:38:14 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beach


Thanks for all the reports this past holiday week.

Steve G,

Sadly it looks like perhaps the Brother's Johnson
tune is gone for good. I also thought it really
rocked and I still listen to it all of the time.

Date: Sun, July 08, 2012, 10:34:12 ET
Posted by: B. Tedone,

Right on, Uncle Michael! :)

Date: Sun, July 08, 2012, 09:22:29 ET
Posted by: Michael, @B. Tedone

"Also re-listened to all of DF's "Morph" and am wondering why are all the tunes around the same tempo? Was that intentional?"

I don't get that, either. Give that Donald's composing style makes extensive use of sophisticated harmonies and intriguing rhythms/syncopations, you'd think he'd be more proactive about song structure and variation. Yet MTC is basically one laid-back groove after another. I mean he had Keith Carlock on board but didn't utilize him much except as a time-keeper. That's akin to purchasing an Acura NSX just to take a leisurely cruise at 25-30 MPH around the block.

Date: Sun, July 08, 2012, 08:26:05 ET
Posted by: B. Tedone,

BTW: Thanks Jazzassin for the info.:)

Date: Sun, July 08, 2012, 08:24:48 ET
Posted by: B. Tedone,

Also re-listened to all of DF's "Morph" and am wondering why are all the tunes around the same tempo? Was that intentional?

Date: Sat, July 07, 2012, 19:20:02 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Somewhere I've never travelled


The similarity is apparent, and Ambrosia has many really, really beautiful songs imho!

Date: Sat, July 07, 2012, 18:50:07 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

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The following are the subject headlines of the Dandom Digest for July 1-7, 2012.


- Dukes Reviews Requested
- Roger Nichols in the RnR HoF: Change.org Petition
- New CD by Jon Herington
- REDUX: Keith Carlock sitings
- Hey! It's another box set!
- DF interviewed on "Toast To Freedom"
- The Drummers of Steely Dan interviews
- Deely Stan Concert
- Stealin Dan
- REDUX: Monkey House To Play First Manhattan Show 7/26, Bitter End
- REDUX: Dukes Dates Reference Guide


- NEW: hoops is Looking for Interlochen, 8/17 tickets


- SPOILER: Bob Lefsetz raves on Dukes
- Re: SPOILER: Bob Lefsetz raves on Dukes
- SPOILER: 6/30-San Jose: "Lots of energy"
- SPOILER: 7/1-Oakland: "phenomenal"
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- Dukes Reviews Requested
- Recent Set Lists Revisited


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Date: Sat, July 07, 2012, 18:05:30 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, rub-a-dub

@ B. Tedone

Remember the portrait on Walter's rig during the 2011 Shuffle Diplomacy Tour? That was King Tubby, legendary Jamaican electronics and sound engineer, known primarily for his influence on the development of dub in the 1960s and 1970s. Read more on Wikipedia here:


Why some people have a fascination for certain other people and their work is not for me to say, but Walter definately likes King Tubby!

And Circus $ clearly shows a soft spot for dub/reggae in general as well. How long this has been going on I really don't know, but I think it must've been from at least prior to 1976's "Haitian Divorce", which is a Steely song that has particulary much of Walter in it. He also sings it occasionally live, as I'm sure you know. So it's probably a life long fascination for the style, even if Don & Walt usually mentions mostly classic jazz artists when asked about musical preferences and taste.

Just my 2 cents, of course.

Date: Sat, July 07, 2012, 17:12:04 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa

Thanks Chase. I was hoping for Donald's new CD...LOL...Call me a dreamer !!!

Well, a Steely Dan or Dukes T-shirt would be ok.

Date: Sat, July 07, 2012, 16:00:45 ET
Posted by: Chase, Boston

Sorry Steve, but Good to You was taken off the setlist early in the tour so I don't think they'll play it. As for merchandise, it's probably t-shirts, mugs and key chains.

Date: Sat, July 07, 2012, 15:51:39 ET
Posted by: B. Tedone,

Just re-listening to "Circus $". Anyone have any idea about WB's fixation on using Reggae beats/rhythms on most of the tracks? It's a cool groove, but...

Date: Sat, July 07, 2012, 13:33:24 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa

I might be in the minority, but I really hope they perform the old Brothers Johnson hit "I'll Be Good to You" when they come to Clearwater in a couple of weeks. I loved the performance on the Jimmy Fallon show.
Any word on what kind of "merch" they're selling ?

Date: Sat, July 07, 2012, 08:07:56 ET
Posted by: WB,

I think I know why DF likes performing w/ Boz. Who else do we know that sounds very much like him? :)


Date: Sat, July 07, 2012, 02:37:41 ET
Posted by: MikeA, Seattle

Great show in Seattle tonight . Show was at St Michele winery and was sold out.

It gets dark around 10pm here at this time of year and Donald spent the whole show musing about how it was still light out. Said he thought he was in Alaska. After the 4 song encore he was still talking about it. Show started at 7pm...

All three of the front men still have "it". That's for sure...

More impressions of the show tommorrow after I get some rest.

Date: Sat, July 07, 2012, 00:25:51 ET
Posted by: SS, HK

I've got a friend who has bought 2 tix to the Sat night Dukes show in Vancouver for $33 each. Not sure whether that includes all the charges or where he is sitting but it's a great old downtown theatre.

Date: Fri, July 06, 2012, 13:42:39 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

I also think Donald should replace McDonald and Scaggs for the next tour with, let's day Becker and Carlock?
Just kidding, it probable makes no sense to have a SD tour every year now and the Dukes are fun.
It's not easy to haul in the crowds and sell out every night, and
$ 150+ for good seats might be a bit steep for a lot of fans these days...

Date: Fri, July 06, 2012, 08:39:22 ET
Posted by: Allen Goysteinsky,

We know DF admires Dylan. What does he think of Leonard Cohen? Is he a khaver also?

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2012, 21:50:15 ET
Posted by: Hee Haw Mike, San Diego

I really think Donald should add or replace different artists for the Dukes if they tour again. Steve Winwood, Bonnie Raitt, Daryl Hall, Bruce Hornsby or Huey Lewis would really fit in with the style of music the Dukes are playing.

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2012, 20:53:01 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

I think think your on to something there HeeHawMike. Spoken like a true hayseed

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2012, 20:29:35 ET
Posted by: Hee Haw Mike, San Diego

Then maybe the Dukes should change their name to Fagen, McDonald & Scaggs. Then people would know who they are and it might boost ticket sales.

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2012, 17:39:42 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

The ticket prices are a bit high in my opinion considering the venue and scheduling. An outdoor venue in Houston in the middle of July is not most people's idea of fun, unless of course Kenny Chesney or some other country boondoggle is playing. Also, the Tuesday night date is not going to help, particularly with the concert being 30 miles north of Houston, as well as the fight of rush hour traffic to get there. We have some venues inside the city, albeit not great, but would have been more suited for this event. Lastly, most around here don't have a clue who the Dukes of September are so I'm afraid this stop may not be well received. I hope I'm wrong.

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2012, 16:02:13 ET
Posted by: turtledsoup, oakland

The Oakland show was phenomenal. Considering the hefty ticket prices, I was on the fence but I am very happy I motivated. There were plenty of empty seats (even rows) in the rear orchestra seating area but there weren't many people selling tickets online or outside the theatre. The band took the stage at about 7:45 and the encore ended exactly 2 hours later. I can't entirely recall the setlist but they did play a very powerful "You Never Can Tell", which I haven't seen mentioned in any 2012 setlist so far. I am fairly certain they did all the other songs mentioned in the other shows too. Despite the comments I've read regarding the new drummer, he definitely did not disappoint me Sunday night. Maybe it just took a few gigs to break him in because he was definitely playing "in the pocket" Sunday night in Oakland.

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2012, 07:52:52 ET
Posted by: tdslnpt, New York

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Date: Wed, July 04, 2012, 19:09:41 ET
Posted by: Bernie, Columbus, OH

Still no reviews in for the Santa Barbara or Oakland shows. I wonder if they added or made any changes to the setlist.

Date: Wed, July 04, 2012, 14:45:29 ET
Posted by: PGE, Hey! It's another box set!

Steely Dan seem to be part of Universal Musics lowbudget box set series named Classic Album Selection. Other artists in thsi series include Thin Lizzy, Soundgarden, Elton John and Mot�rhead, and what they do is take five or six albums from one artist, put them in thin cardbord sleeves and drop them in a slightlky thicker cardbord box. No extras, no frills. But cheap.

The Steely Dan box set popped up on a few online stores without a release date but with a track listing and a fuzzy pic that shows that the five albums are Countdown To Ecstasy (1973), Pretzel Logic (1974), Katy Lied (1975), The Royal Scam (1976) and Aja (1977).

1972's Can't Buy A Thrill nowhere to be seen.

Made me long for a brand new remastered Citizen-like box with some extras, like ... a live recording from one or more of the Beacon shows from 2011.

Date: Wed, July 04, 2012, 14:30:53 ET
Posted by: Klaus with a new rooster, ohio

Thanx Dean you guys and this site make it happen for us/ those of our kind hope u enjoy the show

Date: Wed, July 04, 2012, 13:41:12 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Klaus, glad to hear you scored great seats. I trust you and the new Rooster will have a great time.

I live in St Augustine Beach, just south of Jacksonville and right across the street from the Atlantic Ocean. I moved here from San Francisco (which I miss everyday) to help care for my elderly Mother and Father (Father since deceased) and disabled Brother. Still, if I have to live in Florida, I'll take St Augustine over most other options.

Can't wait until the Dukes come here later this month!

Date: Wed, July 04, 2012, 13:03:24 ET
Posted by: Klaus with a new rooster, ohio

Tommy and Dean/ You guys are great Steely Bros 8th row center from stub . Will you be attending Toledo Tommy? and where are you in Fla Dean My gal just moved here w me from Seminole/ her first live exposure to Donald hope she enjoys him half as much as I always do!! thanks you guys

Date: Wed, July 04, 2012, 13:03:24 ET
Posted by: Klaus with a new rooster, ohio

Tommy and Dean/ You guys are great Steely Bros 8th row center from stub . Will you be attending Toledo Tommy? and where are you in Fla Dean My gal just moved here w me from Seminole/ her first live exposure to Donald hope she enjoys him half as much as I always do!! thanks you guys

Date: Wed, July 04, 2012, 11:17:47 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH

@ Klaus & the new rooster

Hey Bro, I am not sure what is going on when you say you are getting "shut out" on tix for the Toledo show. I know of 3 viable options:
1. Go with The Dean's advice and get tix through Stubhub...

2. Pay $150 per ticket and choose "Official Platinum Seats"...several excellent sats to pick from...

3. Get normal seats (less expensive) a little further back... SectionH RowO Seats 7-8 Description Price Level 2
Theatre Seating - Last 32 Rows A-FF
Right Side of House Facing Stage
PriceUS $75.90 x 2
Ticket Price US $59.50 x 2 CC US $16.40 x 2
SUBTOTAL * US $151.80

I ran this ticket scan July 4, 2012 11:15 am EST.

Good luck to you and the new rooster (as well as dealing with the old rooster).

As for me...2012 looks to be Don & Walt free year. Unless DF solo tour should happen this fall...doubtful.

Looking forward to 2013....

Date: Wed, July 04, 2012, 11:03:27 ET
Posted by: Tippy H.,

Mike Mc D. on SD and The Doobies:


Date: Tues, July 03, 2012, 22:11:49 ET
Posted by: A little with sugar, Portland OR

Ok, gotta wonder about who booked the Dukes West Coast tour.

Thursday night's show is in Jacksonville, OR - near Medford, a small city of about 70,000 near the California border. It is a 4-hour drive south of Oregon's main population center in Portland, and about 6 hours north of Sacramento.

The next night they're at least playing somewhere in the Seattle area.

So the Dan's Portland fans, who have given them such rousing receptions at the outset of at least 2 tours (2011 and 2001), can brave either an 8 hour round trip south or a 6 hour round trip north if we want to see the Dukes perform. Yes, I'm sure some of you have traveled greater distances to see the Dan play in certain cities, or to catch extra shows in other cities. But should those of us in a major metropolitan area have to go so far to see this tour? How hard is it to book a big tour into one of the US' top 25 media markets?

Sorry to be missing this one.

Date: Tues, July 03, 2012, 20:10:47 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Sorry I meant Klaus, not Tommy on those last two posts. Not enough to drink, I guess.

Date: Tues, July 03, 2012, 18:52:58 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. Still Drinkin'

Tommy, StubHub also has tickets to that show. There are tickets in section C (dead center) for $99


Date: Tues, July 03, 2012, 18:43:55 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Tommy, I really don't know much about the Toledo show, but I just tried Tickbastard and found a seat in Section D Row 12 for $98.


Good luck!

Date: Tues, July 03, 2012, 18:43:22 ET
Posted by: Hoibee Gavalt,

Let's not forget the Jewish Grateful Dead "Deadhaed Shabbaton"!


Date: Tues, July 03, 2012, 18:40:03 ET
Posted by: J. Oystein,

Forgot to mention DF's musical homage to a band that he, along w/ most Jews of his and subsequent generations, admired/adored: The Grateful Dead. As Frank Zappa said so eloquently: Hoy,Hoy,Hoy!

Date: Tues, July 03, 2012, 18:01:40 ET
Posted by: Klaus with a new rooster, Ohio

Dean/ Or Tommy Tomato I am getting totally shut out on tix for the Toledo zoo help!!! new comp my email is all screwed up may have been the ex wife messing w me I need some help on figuring this out the clock is ticking!!

Date: Tues, July 03, 2012, 17:20:22 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Didn't John Sebastian write and record "Welcome Back Khaver"?

Date: Tues, July 03, 2012, 16:49:35 ET
Posted by: J. Oystein,

Thanks to Donald for paying musical hommage to 2 khavers: John Sebastian and Thunderclap Newman.

Date: Tues, July 03, 2012, 12:16:25 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Those individual review rebuttles are tiresome, but The Last Review You'll Ever Read was a thing of beauty.

I wish Fagen/Becker/(their ghostwriters?) still wrote for steelydan.com. Always enjoyed their missives.

Date: Mon, July 02, 2012, 15:05:43 ET
Posted by: Greg M, lol

<<<Fagen is aware of social media. He uses it mainly to declare that this or that reviewer has his head up his ass. This guy is likely next.>>>

haha that's great

Date: Mon, July 02, 2012, 11:26:47 ET
Posted by: Mel, R

Fagen is aware of social media. He uses it mainly to declare that this or that reviewer has his head up his ass. This guy is likely next.

Date: Mon, July 02, 2012, 09:05:31 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Bob Lefsetz raving about the Dukes show last week:

"This show was so good, so special, so right, if Donald Fagen wasn�t lost in the past and embraced social media his fans might be aware of it and it would eclipse the Steely Dan tours, because it�s a celebration of everything that once was, it�s our DNA on stage."


Date: Sun, July 01, 2012, 23:43:18 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

The latest edition of the Dandom Digest was just mailed a few minutes ago. This one covered from from June 22-30, 2012. (The previous Dandom Digest was dated June 9-21, 2012.)

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The following are the subject headlines of the Dandom Digest for June 22-30, 2012. For this edition, a lot of the reviews originally appeared here on the Blue. (Thanks Gus and Ray!)


- Interview with Michael McDonald About Dukes
- Aspen Concert Preview
- Compiled from many sources
- REDUX: Monkey House To Play First Manhattan Show 7/26, Bitter End
- T I C K E T E X C H A N G E
- REDUX: SPOILEResque: Dukes on Jimmy Fallon
- SPOILER: 6/24-Las Vegas: "Outstanding horn work"
- SPOILER: 6/25-San Diego: "sounded great"
- SPOILER: 6/27-Santa Rosa: "Catherine...What a voice!"
- SPOILER: 6/28-Universal City: "Catherine...worth the price of admission"
- SPOILER: 6/28-Universal City: Hollywood Reporter Review
- SPOILER: 6/28-Universal City: "Impressed with Donald"


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Thanks for your support through the years, especially Pete and Shari, as well as Mr. & Mr.s Winterbottom, and remembering Mark and Bill, and not to mention one or two people who request anonymity.


Date: Sun, July 01, 2012, 18:49:20 ET
Posted by: Coastie, NorCal

A brief review of the San Jose show:
1. I didn't keep track of the songs, but the set list was essentially the same as what we've seen so far.
2. Good crowd at the Civic . . . at least as far as sales goes. Can't say the same for their behavior: the couple in front of me arrived about 15 minutes after the show began; the couple behind me arrived about 30 minutes after the show began. Lots of people making trips to the bar, restroom, whatever. I guess I'm getting old, I still think you go to a concert to listen to the music. Apparently the music is secondary to drinking Bud and answering Nature's call. I felt like I was at a Giants game.
3. Acoustics at the Civic are still rotten--this is an opinion I've held since seeing Ray Charles there in the '60s.
4. Speaking of which, the demographics of the crowd seemed even older than what is typical of a Steely Dan crowd.
5. The Dukes sounded good despite the acoustics. Lots of energy, particularly from Donald. He seemed much more the "front man" than he does fronting Steely Dan. His voice seemed stronger, too. The chemistry among Donald, Michael and Boz is obvious.
6. The crowd was responsive from the beginning, but no standing Os until about two-thirds of the way into the set list. Boz's "Low Down" is what got everyone on their feet. The latter part of the set list is loaded with "can't sit down" hits.
7. The Dukes gave us four more in the encore, though Donald suggested we'd get only three.
8. I agree with earlier opinions about the drummer; he's no Keith Carlock.
9. Jon Herington ripped it up all night. The guy is a master.
10. Overall, I get the feeling that Donald seems freer as one of the Dukes. He certainly seems more relaxed.

Wish I could make the Paramount show tonight; great acoustics there, and a much cooler venue.

Date: Sun, July 01, 2012, 17:48:51 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA


Thanks very much for the Trouble Man link. For what it's worth, both Mrs. GW and I thought that Donald sounded even better on Trouble Man in Las Vegas than at the Gibson. I haven't checked, but unfortunately I doubt that any data from the Las Vegas show will be available to either confirm or controvert our opinions. Security at The Joint was very tight, along the lines of the SD Santa Barbara show last July.

Our opinions may have also been affected by the overall sound quality, which we thought was better in Las Vegas than at the Gibson. In fairness, that in turn could be due to our relatively worse seat location at the Gibson, but we were in about the same spot as for the SD "Request Night" in 2009 and didn't notice any problems then.

Date: Sun, July 01, 2012, 11:54:08 ET
Posted by: LR,


Where are all of the San Jose reports?

Date: Sun, July 01, 2012, 11:49:13 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beach

Wasn't this year's "deal breaker" nixing
Carlock from any chance of backing up the
Dukes, his prior commitment to back up Larry
Carlton all of July and some of August in

Date: Sun, July 01, 2012, 09:14:56 ET
Posted by: Rob Netherworld, Netherlands

Donald Fagen on "Toast to Freedom"


Date: Sun, July 01, 2012, 00:19:20 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Carlock is has not toured with the Dukes
but will be on the West Coast with Wayne Krantz this October.
He also appears on the new Mike Stern cd, along with Jim Beard, Chris Potter etc.
Highly recommended!

Date: Sat, June 30, 2012, 21:32:47 ET
Posted by: Cosmo Factoria,

DF's really into this one:


Date: Sat, June 30, 2012, 18:49:56 ET
Posted by: Julo, Oakland

Has Keith Carlock ever played/toured with the Dukes? Sure would be nice to see him in the drum chair.

Date: Sat, June 30, 2012, 18:20:36 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beach

Impressions of the Dukes Gibson Show:

Really impressed with Donald on "Trouble Man"

Really not impressed with Shannon Forest.
Quite a "thud" style drummer. No wonder
they have him playing behind the plexi.

So right Gus, not even close to the energy
and performance of the 2010 Greek LA Show.


It's really getting quite old douche.
I have panned many shows I have seen
if you would bother to read, but I know
that that is such a mental chore for you.
Like if you would bother, you might have
also read that I probably am going to many
more shows than your broke ass is going to
this summer.

Enjoy the heat wave, brown grass and ripped
Slip N Slide this summer dipshit, as we know
that what passes for "entertainment" in your
neck of the woods.

Date: Sat, June 30, 2012, 14:40:04 ET
Posted by: devon, my current gps coordinates

Glad that Ray isn't going to any shows because now there's a chance that the one I attend will be the best.

Date: Sat, June 30, 2012, 14:17:53 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA


Thanks for the link. And you are correct, Boz and Donald have swapped positions compared to the 2010 tour. I should have noticed, but I didn't. I think that the Miss Sun duet was done at Boz's mike, while Love Is Strange was definitely performed at the center mike at both The Joint and the Gibson.

Date: Sat, June 30, 2012, 12:29:46 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beach


Interesting to see that have moved Donald
and his grand center stage this tour.
Surprised that no one has mentioned this
so far.

Date: Sat, June 30, 2012, 12:28:30 ET
Posted by: Klaus with a new rooster, Ohio

Olivia I wish I was on the West coast I would gladly escort a fellow danfan to the show and buy you a few glasses of wine have fun dear and enjoy

Date: Sat, June 30, 2012, 01:37:32 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Enjoy the shows everyone, and Olivia - hopefully you will find someone as charming as you are to enjoy the show with!

Date: Sat, June 30, 2012, 00:53:19 ET
Posted by: Olivia LaRosa, The San Francisco Bay


I have a spare ticket for tomorrow night,Saturday, in a Handicapped Section at the San Jose Civic Auditorium. All you need do is help me get in place with my wheelchair. After that, you are free to do as you please until the end of the show. I do not like to leave early to beat the crowd. I like hanging out afterward for a bit. The person with whom I had planned to attend The Dukes of September has dropped out 20 hours before the stage is lit.

No payment required for the ticket. You are allowed to gift me with a glass of wine at the beginning of the concert.

I can walk. I just cannot walk long distances. Nor can I climb or descend stairs. Furthermore, I cannot walk on the grass. So, it's a challenge for me to get where I want to be sometimes. I will visit the SJCA for the first time and I have to be prepared for any eventuality.

After all, it IS Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald, and Boz Skaggs!

Kindly meet me at the auditorium.

Via, A Dan Fan since 1974

Date: Fri, June 29, 2012, 18:47:59 ET
Posted by: Bill Caspano,

Dean - I listened to it thru Sennheiser's also thru a very good Yamaha receiver and an exclamation is there. I'm thinkin' it's either in response to the hot lick Michael L. played or the sultryness of the tune?

Date: Fri, June 29, 2012, 15:55:13 ET
Posted by: Blue Cow, San Francisco

Ticket sales seem to be slow in Northern California as well. I was just checking on seats available on ticketmaster for tomorrow's San Jose show and I pulled up a great pair of seats in the second row.

Date: Fri, June 29, 2012, 12:56:47 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

On the whole Almost Gothic mystery sound:

As I noted earlier I've listened multiple times through fairly good Sennheiser headphones and have yet to hear anything that sounds like a human voice or particular word. Now, my source material wasn't all that great-I listened to a ripped copy of the CD (which I bought and own) on my computer.

I can hear some background sound but it sounds more like a keyboard/synth or some other instrument, than it does a voice. It could be the result of my source material or it could be at a frequency an old man like me has trouble hearing.

Gus thanks for the great report. I am really getting stoked for the St Augustine show.

Date: Fri, June 29, 2012, 10:23:34 ET
Posted by: Bill S,


Doesn't sound like an instrument really. It does kinda sound like a female human. Ooooo...

Date: Fri, June 29, 2012, 08:06:33 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beach

Thanks for the report Gus!

Kinda helped take a bit of the "sting" away
from not being able to make the shows in
SoCal this year. Wonder why the poor sales
in LA this year?

And you are so right, The Dukes at The Greek
in 2010 was "one special night" indeed! ;O)

Please say hello to the lovely Mrs. Winterbottom
for me.

Date: Fri, June 29, 2012, 03:47:30 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA

Dukes of September
Gibson Amphitheatre 6/28/2012 Setlist

Intro: People Get Up And Drive Your Funky Soul (8:25 PM)

That Lady (Boz, Donald, and Michael vocals)
Sweet Soul Music (Michael, Boz, and Donald vocals)
I Keep Forgettin' (Michael vocals)
Trouble Man (Donald vocals)
Kid Charlemagne (Donald vocals)
That Same Thing (Boz vocals)
Miss Sun (Boz vocals, closing duet with Catherine)
I Heard It Through The Grapevine (Carolyn vocals)
Love is Strange (Boz/Carolyn vocals)
Summer In The City (Donald vocals)
If You Don't Know Me By Now (Michael vocals)
What A Fool Believes (Michael vocals)
Hey 19 (Donald vocals)
Love TKO (Boz vocals)
Piece Of My Heart (Catherine vocals)
Lowdown (Boz vocals)
Takin' It To The Streets (Michael/Catherine vocals)
Reelin' In The Years (Donald vocals)


Peg (Donald vocals)
Pretzel Logic (Donald, Boz, and Michael vocals)
Thank You (Ladies on lead vocals)
Them Changes (Michael vocals)

Outro: People Get Up and Drive Your Funky Soul (10:30 PM)

Just a couple of brief comments:

This seems to be the same setlist that Connie reported for the Santa Rosa show.

Much more energetic crowd than the 6/24 Las Vegas show, but still not equal in enthusiasm to the Greek crowd in 2010.

There must have been a lot of last minute ticket sales, as the Gibson was pretty full (but not close to a sellout). A few days ago sales were perhaps one-third of the house.

Catherine's performance of Piece Of My Heart was by itself nearly worth the price of admission.

Date: Fri, June 29, 2012, 01:44:38 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

re: Almost Gothic - sounds like the Wurly percolating to me

OK, the long lost liner notes again. Sleuthing and clues have made progress, and I need a new edit. I've made some minor changes since the last iteration. Thoughts appreciated - if you have a link, then great.


Rikki Don�t Lose That Number:

Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Walter Becker
Acoustic Guitar: Dean Parks
Electric Guitar & Solo: Skunk Baxter
Piano: Michael Omartian
Flapamba: Victor Feldman
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit

Night By Night:

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Wilton Felder
Guitars: Skunk Baxter (solo)
Walter Becker
Clavinet: David Paich
Percussion: Victor Feldman
Sax: Plas Johnson, Ernie Watts
Trumpet: Ollie Mitchell
Trombone: Lew McCreary
Clarinet: Jerome Richardson
Backing Vocals: Tim Schmit, (Sherlie Matthews, Carolyn Willis, Myrna Matthews?? � uncredited)

Any Major Dude:

Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Acoustic Guitars: Dean Parks (right channel), Ben Benay (left channel)
Electric guitars: Denny Dias (left channel) Skunk Baxter (right channel + solo � second half doubled up)
Fender Rhodes: Michael Omartian
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine):
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen


Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Walter Becker
Acoustic guitar: Ben Benay
Electric Guitars: Denny Dias, Dean Parks
Pedal Steel guitar: Skunk Baxter (last verse)
Piano: Michael Omartian
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit

East St. Louis Toodle-oo

Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Walter Becker
Wah-wah Guitar: Walter Becker
Pedal Steel guitar: Skunk Baxter
Banjo: Dean Parks
Piano: Donald Fagen
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Alto Sax: Donald Fagen

Parker�s Band:

Drums: Jim Gordon (right channel) & Jeff Porcaro (left channel)
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitars: Denny Dias (left channel), Dean Parks, Walter Becker
Piano: Michael Omartian
Organ: Donald Fagen
Dueling Saxes: Plas Johnson, Ernie Watts
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit, (female - Sherlie Matthews, Carolyn Willis, Myrna Matthews??)

Through With Buzz:

Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Piano: Donald Fagen
Fender Rhodes: David Paich?
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen

Orchestration by Jimmie Haskell

Pretzel Logic:

Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Wilton Felder
Guitar: Walter Becker (solo) Rhythm guitar � right channel: Dean Parks
Piano: Michael Omartian (left channel)
Wurlitzer piano: Donald Fagen (left channel)
Sax: Plas Johnson
Trumpet: Ollie Mitchell
Trombone: Lew McCreary
Backing vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit

With a Gun:

Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Walter Becker
Acoustic Guitars: Dean Parks, Ben Benay
Electric Guitars: Skunk Baxter (good Western flavor)
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit

Charlie Freak:

Drums: Jim Gordon
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitar: Walter Becker (left channel)
Pedal Steel: Skunk Baxter
Piano: Donald Fagen
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen (left channel)
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine, sleigh bells, triangle @ 1:52 mark)
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen

Monkey in Your Soul: (a very underrated song)

Drums: Jim Gordon
Fuzz Bass: Walter Becker
Guitar: Dean Parks (right channel); Skunk Baxter (solo � left channel)
Wurlitzer: Donald Fagen
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Saxes: Plas Johnson, Ernie Watts
Percussion: Victor Feldman - handclaps
Backing vocals: Donald Fagen (great echo)

All lead Vocals: Donald Fagen

Orchestration by Jimmie Haskell


Black Friday:

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitars: Walter Becker
Keyboards: David Paich (right channel?), Michael Omartian (left channel?)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald

Bad Sneakers:

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Hugh McCracken
Walter Becker (solo)
Piano: Michael Omartian
Percussion: Victor Feldman
Vibes: Victor Feldman
Backing vocals: Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald

Rose Darling:

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Larry Carlton (acoustic & electric � left channel), Dean Parks (electric & solo � right channel)
Piano: Michael Omartian
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald

Daddy Don�t Live in That New York City No More:

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitars: Elliot Randall, Walter Becker, Larry Carlton?
Piano: Michael Omartian
Organ: Donald Fagen
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen

Doctor Wu:

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Larry Carlton
Piano: Michael Omartian
Fender Rhodes: David Paich
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Saxophone: Phil Woods
Percussion: Victor Feldman (chimes)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen

Everyone�s Gone to the Movies:

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Dorophone: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Walter Backer
Fender Rhodes: Donald Fagen
Organ: Donald Fagen
Saxophone: Donald Fagen
Percussion: Victor Feldman (maracas, congas)
Vibes: Victor Feldman
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen, Sherlie Matthews, Carolyn Willis, Myrna Matthews

Your Gold Teeth II:

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Denny Dias
Piano: Michael Omartian
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Vibes: Victor Feldman
Backing vocals: Donald Fagen

Chain Lightning:

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Wilton Felder
Guitars: Rick Derringer (both 9 and 11 o�clock)
Fender Rhodes: Michael Omartian
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen

Any World (That I�m Welcome To):

Drums: Hal Blaine
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Larry Carlton, Elliott Randall
Piano: David Paich
Organ: Donald Fagen
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine)
Backup Vocals: Michael McDonald

Throw Back the Little Ones

Drums: Jeff Porcaro
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitar: Walter Becker. Elliott Randall
Piano: Michael Omartian
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Horns: Jimmie Haskell, Bill Perkins

All lead Vocals: Donald Fagen

Horns arranged by Jimmie Haskell


Kid Charlemagne:

Drums: Bernard �Pretty� Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Larry Carlton
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Clavinet: Paul Griffin
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald, Venetta Fields, Clydie King, Sherlie Matthews

Caves of Altamira:

Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Walter Becker
Piano: Donald Fagen
Fender Rhodes: Paul Griffin
Trumpet: Chuck Findley, Bob Findley
Trombone: Slyde Hyde
Sax: Plas Johnson, Jim Horn
Solo Sax: John Klemmer
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Timothy B. Schmit

Don�t Take Me Alive:

Drums: Rick Marotta
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Larry Carlton (solo)
Dean Parks (rhythm)
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Timothy B. Schmit

Sign in Stranger:

Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Elliott Randall, Walter Becker
Piano: Paul Griffin
Trumpet: Chuck Findley, Bob Findley
Trombone: Slyde Hyde
Sax: Plas Johnson
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Timothy B. Schmit

The Fez:

Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitar: Elliott Randall
Guitar: Walter Becker
Piano: Paul Griffin
Organ: Paul Griffin
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Trumpet: Chuck Findley, Bob Findley
Trombone: Slyde Hyde
Sax: Plas Johnson, Ernie Watts
Percussion: Victor Feldman (maracas)
Backing Vocals: Donald Fagen, Timothy B. Schmit, Michael McDonald

Green Earrings:

Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Elliott Randall - left channel, solo; 3rd section
Hugh McCracken � rhythm guitar
Larry Carlton - solo1st section
Denny Dias � 2nd section
Clavinet: Paul Griffin
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Percussion: Victor Feldman (tambourine, triangle, maracas)
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen, Tim Schmit

Haitian Divorce:

Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Chuck Rainey
Guitars: Dean Parks (solo talk box)
Walter Becker (talk box voicings)
Larry Carlton (rhythm)
Piano: Donald Fagen
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Sax: Jim Horn, Plas Johnson
Backup Vocals: Venetta Fields, Clydie King, Sherlie Matthews

Everything You Did:

Drums: Rick Marotta
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitars: Larry Carlton (solo), Walter Becker (left channel)
Piano: Donald Fagen
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Organ: Paul Griffin
Backup Vocals: Donald Fagen, Timothy B. Schmit, Michael McDonald

Royal Scam:

Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitar: Larry Carlton
Piano: Donald Fagen
Organ: Paul Griffin
Fender Rhodes: Don Grolnick
Percussion: Victor Feldman (blocks, tambourine)
Dueling muted trumpets: Chuck Findley, Bob Findley
Trombone: Slyde Hyde
Sax: Jim Horn, Plas Johnson
Backup Vocals: Venetta Fields, Clydie King, Sherlie Matthews

Date: Thurs, June 28, 2012, 16:09:55 ET
Posted by: Blue Cow, San Francisco

Thanks, Connie. I hope they keep Good to You off the setlist. I'm going to the San Jose show tomorrow night. Can't wait!!

Date: Thurs, June 28, 2012, 12:20:52 ET
Posted by: Connie, In the vineyard

I messed up. In reviewing my notes, the set list was the same as LV until Fool-
then Hey 19
Love TKO
Piece of my Heart w/Catherine (WOW!)
Streets w/Catherine
Encore same

Good to You was not played (since Catherine was back?)

Date: Thurs, June 28, 2012, 11:33:25 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

The Dukes didn't ditch I'll Be Good To You according to the most recent setlist post I can see, which was Gus Winterbottom's Las Vegas setlist. They did, in fact, change its place in the lineup, and it's right after Hey 19 and before Lowdown. (It's titled "Good to You" rather than I'll Be Good To You in Gus's post, perhaps causing some confusion?). Unless I'm missing something where someone posted another setlist or someone specifically said they didn't play that song, it appears that I'll Be Good To You is safe for now.

Date: Thurs, June 28, 2012, 10:49:51 ET
Posted by: Pardon me, But of course

Can't discuss mustard without bringing pretzels into the mix. I think mustard was the culprit here.


Date: Thurs, June 28, 2012, 07:20:06 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Re: Almost Gothic @ 2:47


I could've sweared that was mustard between the Bb and the B on the Wurlitzer! However, after a thorough check, I found the mustard was in my ear, not in the Wurlitzer!
Please ignore my previous post.

Date: Thurs, June 28, 2012, 01:57:07 ET
Posted by: Connie, In the vineyard

Santa Rosa -
Catherine Russell was back What a voice!). Same set list as Las Vegas with 2 songs flip flopped in the line up. Same Encore numbers. The band took the wrong stage exit and Donald commented on it when they returned for the Encore saying 'it was because they were old'. The crowd was not hopping until the end. In fact, I looked at some of the geriatric folks and thought maybe they thought it was the Duke Ellington band. I had a great night and wish I could afford to go to Oakland over the weekend.

Date: Wed, June 27, 2012, 23:52:27 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Name, Dork Static, NJ

Fellow Dan-heads,

I believe I've posted these parodies before. I did not create them.

Who has the F#&@king time ??

Well, the folks who made them did.

Please take the time to watch these. They ARE funny.

Steely Dan vs. The Eagles:


Michael McDonald:

Date: Wed, June 27, 2012, 22:30:44 ET
Posted by: Blue Cow, San Francisco

I'm really glad they ditched I'll be Good to You. I'd rather hear them cover Stomp! by the Brothers Johnson instead.

Date: Wed, June 27, 2012, 21:37:38 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beach

So envious Jamie, sounds like a great night.

Really surprised they jettisoned the "Brother's
Johnson" tune so quickly. I hope they will reconsider.
I think it just needs a different spot in the running
order. I listen to it all the time. I really think it
rocks and shows off all of their voices and the band
really well. I love the Clavinet (sound?) reminiscent
of "Night By Night" - rockin through out.

Can't get enough.

We await your fine report Connie

Date: Wed, June 27, 2012, 21:03:53 ET
Posted by: Connie, In the vineyard

I am losing my job in 3 weeks and hesitated about going to the show. But I watch The Dukes on Jimmy Fallon and went down the next day and slapped my 100 bucks on the counter and bought a ticket. Mark (Morph the Cat) would be proud!
The show is in 2 hours. I will try to report on the set list when I get back.

Date: Wed, June 27, 2012, 14:17:50 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma ,

Daffy Dandom -

Good, goofy and of course, witty comments all.
Moray Eel is closest though, with his "hooo" entry.

The word is actually "Wow" and it's of a female timbre. (One of the girls singing backup?)

Date: Wed, June 27, 2012, 09:59:15 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Dog lover

There's a little mustard stain between the Bb and the B keys on the Wurlitzer, second octave up from the middle of the keyboard which slightly suspends the B key at 2:47.
The specific brand of mustard is impossible to hear without access to the original 24-bit master tape. I tried to listen twice.

Date: Wed, June 27, 2012, 09:33:44 ET

On my 47th listen I believe it to be suicide instructions.sincerely Rob Halford and Jim Jones

Date: Wed, June 27, 2012, 03:20:16 ET
Posted by: moray eel, a

I don't hear any words, but at exactly 2:47 there is a noise that sounds like a soft, high pitched whimper. It lasts about 1 second as it increases in pitch. "Hooo."

Is that it?


Date: Tues, June 26, 2012, 23:15:27 ET
Posted by: Ron, X

I always heard a voice in the intro to My Rival when listening through headphones. Just before the first verse starts, it sounds like "purple piss."

Date: Tues, June 26, 2012, 23:05:32 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

As if I'm not already blazed enough
Brutus hits me with the cryptic stuff

I've listened several times through very nice headphones. I think I might hear something like "Walt is the Walrus".

Seriously, I hear no word/words at all. But it was worth the listen!

Date: Tues, June 26, 2012, 22:53:54 ET
Posted by: bob, Seattle

Brutus- Are you kidding me!? I listened to it 10 times and I have no clue! Not even close!

Date: Tues, June 26, 2012, 20:37:20 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,

Dandom -

As we await DF's new one, I just happened to be playing "Almost Gothic" and noticed something subtle and weird (maybe not so for SD) @ 2:47/2:48. Listen very carefully immediately after Michael L.'s cool descending lick and tell me what sound (word) you hear.

(It might take more than one listen to hear it.)


Date: Tues, June 26, 2012, 02:26:29 ET
Posted by: Jamie, San Diego

SD songs played tonight that I heard:

Hey 19
& the big winner
Pretzel Logic

Others I remember:

Taking it to the Streets
J Joplin cover Take a little piece of my heart
Thank you for letting me by myself

Amazing weather show sounded great and you got a nice free, Steely Damnned at Humphrey's Backstage next door during and after.

Date: Mon, June 25, 2012, 23:57:26 ET
Posted by: ToneRanger, San Diego

You mean Lurker Ray is not here? Not recording the gig? Not giving us the skinny on everything? Say it isn't so. No -- say it is so!! Great gig tonight!!

The Tone Ranger

Date: Mon, June 25, 2012, 21:37:17 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beach

Thanks Gus & Zoom,

Wonder if they will change it up nightly?
Really surprised to see "Them Changes" back
in the show. Sounds like a fun night and
director DF is obviously messing with the
setlist which is way cool.

Interesting to see them revisit the NYRNSR
days with "Pretzel Logic".

Date: Mon, June 25, 2012, 15:58:44 ET
Posted by: Klaus with a new rooster, Ohio

Hey Dean/ Got a new gal from Fla moved up here w me and I want to take her to see the Dukes. Ticketmaster claims all good seats r gone for Aug 15 show, R they pulling my leg?

Date: Mon, June 25, 2012, 14:08:48 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Casual Fan,

The St Augustine Amphitheatre is right down the street from me. Decent place to see a band, as long as it isn't too hot and humid.

I have yet to score my tickets, as this time of year funds are tight, but I will be at the show. If you want to have a pre-concert drink, drop me a line.

Date: Mon, June 25, 2012, 13:58:48 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando

I like the set list. Looks to me like they went for songs they liked from their era, but not things we would likely hear live by anyone other than your neighborhood pub cover band. Plus some standards from their own respective arsenals.

I'd be curious about the size of the crowds. I am seeing them in a little over a month in St. Augustine and the vast majority of tickets remain unsold. That might not be unusual, I really don't know. Prices are a bit daunting, especially for off-season in Florida.

(P.S. No, I'm not Lurker Ray. What made you say that?)

Date: Mon, June 25, 2012, 10:56:15 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Gus, Zoomly

Thanks so much.

Donald on Summer in the City? I would have bet $ it would have been Mike or Boz. What a great song. I'm sure Don did it justice.

Someone mentioned Joe Jackson's version, which is very good. But have you heard/seen Joe Cocker's version and video? Actually well done and the vid is pretty amusing if only for Joe's gyrations.

Date: Mon, June 25, 2012, 09:14:04 ET
Posted by: pixeleen,

Thanks for the Vegas show review. Sounds like a great show.

Thanks for the James Brown "Drive your funky soul" link. Can already hear the Dukes playing it.....
Are you going to the Wolf Trap show?

Date: Mon, June 25, 2012, 08:22:27 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

James Brown... Drive Your Funky Soul.


Date: Mon, June 25, 2012, 04:57:56 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Las Vegas, NV

The Dukes of September Rhythm Revue
The Joint at the Hard Rock
Las Vegas, NV 6/24/2012 Setlist and Brief Report

Intro: People Get Up And Drive Your Funky Soul (8:10 PM)

That Lady (Boz, Donald, and Michael vocals)
Sweet Soul Music (Michael, Boz, and Donald vocals)
I Keep Forgettin' (Michael vocals)
Trouble Man (Donald vocals)
Kid Charlemagne (Donald vocals)
That Same Thing (Boz vocals)
Miss Sun (Boz vocals, finishing with a duet with La Tanya Hall,
who filled in for Catherine Russell tonight)
I Heard It Through The Grapevine (Carolyn vocals)
Love is Strange (Boz/Carolyn vocals)
Summer In The City (Donald vocals)
If You Don't Know Me By Now (Michael vocals)
What A Fool Believes (Michael vocals)
Love TKO (Boz vocals)
Hey 19 (Donald vocals)
Good To You (Boz, Donald, and Michael vocals)
Lowdown (Boz vocals)
Takin' It To The Streets (Michael/Carolyn vocals)
Reelin' In The Years (Donald vocals)


Peg (Donald vocals)
Pretzel Logic (Donald, Boz, and Michael vocals)
Thank You (Ladies on lead vocals)
Them Changes (Michael vocals)

Outro: People Get Up and Drive Your Funky Soul (10:15 PM)

I have checked my notes about 3 times and I believe this is the correct setlist, but I am pretty tired, so please forgive/correct any errors.

As were the shows I saw in 2010, this was another well-performed set of interesting selections. All of the five vocalists
came through strongly tonight. Donald was possibly at his best for Trouble Man; for that number Donald took center stage with his melodica, and Jim Beard manned the Steinway. Later, Carolyn doing "Grapevine" was a real joy to hear. Later, Donald performed well on "Summer In The City".

Meanwhile, Herington further demonstrated his versatility on That Lady, Love Is Strange, and later on Thank You, where he shared funk duties with Boz.

Outstanding horn work as well was delivered by Weiskopf on Takin' It To The Streets and Leonhart on Hey 19, in the latter case brining his horn and mute down to the center mike for a closing solo. Later, during his Lowdown solo, Leonhart gave us a short "Wizard of Oz" reference.

Pretzel Logic was a pleasant surprise tonight; as zoomlv stated earlier, Donald took the first verse, Boz the second verse, and Michael took over for the "stop time" (if that is the correct term).

I don't think that I have ever heard the intro/outro number before tonight. The title is an educated guess based on some wikipedia and other searches; corrections are welcome.

IMHO the crowd was only moderately energetic tonight; some sporadic standing ovations at the end of some songs, but probably the only time the entire crowd was on its feet was just before the encore.

That's about all I have the energy for now; four days to the Gibson.

Date: Mon, June 25, 2012, 02:47:43 ET
Posted by: Zoomlv, Lost wages

Vegas show set list similar to one previously posted.
Changes were no "piece of my heart"............encores were
Pretzel Logic with Donald and Boz trading verses and Mike doing the famous line with "where did you get those shoes"
Sly's thank You. And Buddy Miles "Them Changes".... Very cool

Date: Sun, June 24, 2012, 15:34:16 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beach - The Rain Has Gone

Just got done listening to the Michael McDonald interiew.

Thanks PER! Here is the source MP3 for those who want to save it:


Mike had a bit of a "senior moment" though.
The Steely Dan concert at The Ambassador Theater
in St. Louis was actually in 1974 not '72,
he wasn't even in the touring band in '72.
And the St. Louis date wasn't the second show of
the famed '74 tour, it was actually in the middle of
the scheduled dates (The tour started March 1 at the
Sopwith Camel in Glendale, the St. Louis show was April 29)
and just before the legendary trip across the pond and the subsequent cancellation of the majority of those shows.

Date: Sun, June 24, 2012, 13:29:32 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Wet South Beach


Date: Sun, June 24, 2012, 01:27:19 ET
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Date: Sat, June 23, 2012, 19:20:23 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Nice. Thanks PGE.

Date: Sat, June 23, 2012, 17:18:23 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

PGE, thanks for the great link

Date: Sat, June 23, 2012, 12:05:26 ET
Posted by: PGE, Radio interview with Michael McDonald

Aired on Fresh 102.5 St. Louis same before the first date on the 2012 tour. Seven minutes:


Date: Sat, June 23, 2012, 07:47:56 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Is 'I Heard It Through The Grapevine' the greatest song of all time?

Umm, no.

Date: Sat, June 23, 2012, 02:34:46 ET
Posted by: Jamie, San Diego

Longtime lurker, (haven't came in awhile) and you guys know me as HymroD or something...Anyways few things on my mind:

1) Dukes of September are here in SD Monday! Anyone got an extra? I have Padre tickers, Premier Club, Awesome behind home plate seats to trade for Saturday Mariners game. Will give 2x for 1! I can't afford to pay so I will be outside listening if this doesn't work out.

2) I watch an amazing,violent, great cartoon called Metapocalypse. It is about a death-metal band, that basically is so popular they rule the world. It is on Cartoon Network. Hilarious! Yet violent. So, one episode recently, they are writing a song, Murder Deathface the bassist is the head writer, and he can't come up with anything. Nathaniel the lead singer starts sarcastically mocking him, saying basically why can't you be like Simon n Garfunkel, etc etc, and the last mocking insult? Says Fagen and Becker!

just an obscure rant from an obscure Dan fan. Props to Dr. Randall if he is in the house.


Date: Fri, June 22, 2012, 12:43:22 ET
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Date: Fri, June 22, 2012, 11:41:58 ET
Posted by: book search, bk


This book considered Marvin Gaye's version the greatest song of all time, and dismissed Gladys Night's as a "journeyman rendition."

Date: Fri, June 22, 2012, 10:41:10 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Heard it Through the Grapevine, Gladys Knight version:


Date: Fri, June 22, 2012, 10:08:14 ET

"Heard it through the grapevine"- (the Gladys Knight version) as
opposed to what the "Raisonettes version" god your GAYE!!!!!!

Date: Fri, June 22, 2012, 08:32:26 ET
Posted by: D. F., on the road

Hey, don't blame me for the setlist. I did my best to get MM and Bozzy to let us just play Steely Dan and my solo stuff. They wouldn't even let me call the tour "The Steely Dan Show Featuring the Dukes of September" or even "Donald Fagen and Friends Featuring Some No-Names Who Don't Deserve to Share the Stage With Me." Trust me, though, I'm groovin' to lots of my solo stuff on the inside. All that other stuff we're playing really sucks.

Date: Fri, June 22, 2012, 07:55:11 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, the real McCoy

Lurker Ray,

A man hasn't really lived until he's been accused of posting under an irregular nickname on the Bluebook.

Date: Thurs, June 21, 2012, 17:26:12 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH

Thanks to all involved for the set list...I was waiting to see one before I attend a show. There will probably be some minor changes (additions or deletions) as well. Hopefully someone will post set lists for a few more shows...to help me decide. (really was hoping to see more DF solo songs)

Date: Thurs, June 21, 2012, 17:01:32 ET
Posted by: Young Wu, Buffalo

Wow, I'm glad I waited until the setlist came out to buy tickets. Not one Fagen solo tune. Hell, IGY and Green Flower Street would have been enough for me.

And the covers really do nothing for me. Was hoping for The Weight as a tribute to Levon. Plus was hoping for a couple repeats like Help Me, Rhonda, Shakedown Street (fantastic according to youtube), and Love Train.

Damn... definitely will be missing this one.

Date: Thurs, June 21, 2012, 14:19:51 ET
Posted by: Make that, Joe

Date: Thurs, June 21, 2012, 14:19:23 ET
Posted by: If you're looking for a cover, of Summer in the City

You can't go wrong with Jod Jackson's version.

Date: Thurs, June 21, 2012, 11:07:58 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick


Thanks so much for the set list. Sounds like they are having a great time which means it's enjoyable for us too. While I'm sure we all wish for more variation on the Steely Dan tunes, I'm sure that for the Boz and McD fans, it's the mix of Dan tunes they are up for.

Again, thanks Mike and thanks to everyone else for the comments.


Date: Thurs, June 21, 2012, 10:44:49 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Pretty good setlist for this band, IMO. I'm trying to put the voice to the song in each case--although the article posted the other day said they would be trading vocals on more of the tunes.

I'm thinking MM on Summer in the City would be pretty cool, although Boz could sing it as well.

Thanks again for the setlist.

Date: Thurs, June 21, 2012, 09:38:59 ET
Posted by: Greg M, wp ny

thanks for posting the setlist!

not terrible. was hoping for some nightfly or kama material. but hey...not terrible at all

wondering how shannon forrest interprets the SD tunes...

Date: Thurs, June 21, 2012, 09:12:12 ET
Posted by: The One & ONLY Lurker Ray, South Beach - 3+ Solid Hours From Orlando

I think that is so sweet that I haunt your dreams Buzz.....

Thank you so much for the setlist Mike!

I also think it is damn solid and I'm really looking forward to the shows. I'm glad that Boz is doing Miss Sun & Love TKO again!!!

I see that Sand Diego is sold out, really surprised how many excellent seats in the pit are still available in LA??? The 2 venues that I am going to here in FLA are all pretty much sold
out also.

How are the tickets selling in other parts of the country?

Sweet dreams Buzz......

Date: Thurs, June 21, 2012, 08:45:58 ET
Posted by: Jimmie, y

Surprised to see Miss Sun and Love TKO again. Not that I didn't think they were well done, but figured Scaggs would try something else this time around. I guess Carolyn likes her moment in the Sun outro.

Date: Thurs, June 21, 2012, 06:41:27 ET
Posted by: mikethebaker, the sugar shack in pennsylvania

Last nights set list Copied from another site, looks pretty solid to me!

1."That Lady" (Isley Brothers)

2. "Sweet Soul Music" (Arthur Conley)

3. "I Keep Forgettin'" (Michael McDonald)

4. "Trouble Man" (Wilson Pickett)

5. "Kid Charlemagne" (Steely Dan)

6. "That Same Thing" (Muddy Waters/Willie Dixon)

7. "Miss Sun" (Boz Scaggs)

8. "Heard it Through the Grapevine" (Gladys Knight version, by backup vocalist Carolyn Leonhart)

9. "Love is Strange" (Mickey & Sylvia)

10. "Summer in the City" (Lovin' Spoonful)

11. "If You Don't Know Me (By Now)" (Harold Melvin & the Bluenotes)

12. "What a Fool Believes" (Doobie Brothers)

13. "Love TKO" (Teddy Prendergrass)

14. "Hey Nineteen" (Steely Dan)

15. "Piece of My Heart" (Erma Franklin version, by backup vocalist Catherine Russell)

16. "Lowdown" (Boz Scaggs)

17. "Takin' it To The Streets" (Doobie Brothers)

18. "Reelin' in The Years" (Steely Dan)


19. "Thank You (Fallettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)" (Sly & the Family Stone)

20. "Peg" (Steely Dan)

21. "The Midnight Hour" (Wilson Pickett)

22. "I'll Be Good To You" (The Brothers Johnson)

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/music/reviews/it-was-the-dukes-fagen-mcdonald-and-scaggs-deliver-like/article_10dd3934-bb0b-11e1-9ece-0019bb30f31a.html#ixzz1yQIJJGMn

Date: Thurs, June 21, 2012, 04:02:09 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -

Odds and ends. [Feel free to skip, if you are dangentially inclined.]

The more I get exposed to Kimmel, the more I love the man. The American late night format is - by design - cringe-worthy, with its scripted, ultra shallow interviews, bleeped out cuss words et cetera, but Kimmel makes it bearable. Fallon seems like a dirty school boy with no place to go in comparison. As a sidenote, Kimmel used his time at the recent white house dinner to confront Obama about his insane policy on The Fine Colombian. "Mr president, this is an issue that real Americans care about." A noble man, that Kimmel.

Was not aware of the Stern peeps' relationship to the Dan. Listened to that show a lot when I was younger. You got to respect Howard's ability to get guests to lower their guard and speak (seemingly) sincerely about this and that, even if I never got what Robin contributes to the show.

What a bleepin' amazing tune True Companion is.

Date: Thurs, June 21, 2012, 00:00:29 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

An anonymous poster calling someone out (erroneously I believe) for a "username violation". Is that irony or just plain stupid?

I'm looking forward to a setlist. I hope someone comes through tonight or tomorrow. Thanks in advance.

Date: Wed, June 20, 2012, 22:04:15 ET
Posted by: Buzzkill, #land

Casual Fan, Orlando, is Lurker Ray

Date: Wed, June 20, 2012, 20:34:52 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa

Howard (Stern) respects "Steely Dan" and has said over the years that he likes some of their work including "Kid Charlamagne" and "Bodhitzava". As you said, Gary "Baba Booey" Delabatte & Jon "Jump The Shark" Hein went to all of last year's shows at the Beacon and just raved over the brilliance.
Howard's into Heavy Metal, but likes Classic Rock and has said some nice things about the Dan over the years.

Date: Wed, June 20, 2012, 20:05:14 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

New job here or I would have gone.

Most of all, would love to hear any Fagen originals or SD covers.

Don't hesitate to let us know what you hear, if you hear anything--here, FB, Twitter, whatevah.

Best wishes,


Date: Wed, June 20, 2012, 15:39:51 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando

DoS opens tour tonight in St. Louis. Anyone going? Can we get a set list (spoiler) or review?

Date: Wed, June 20, 2012, 14:50:52 ET
Posted by: PGE, Dukes news

More originals this time around and Donald is the musical director. Things I learned reading this article:

Date: Tues, June 19, 2012, 16:48:02 ET
Posted by: bob, uncle

Kimmel is much funnier and much better at being a talk show host than Fallon is. As somebody else pointed out, Fallon is amazing at impersonations!

Date: Tues, June 19, 2012, 12:22:32 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

I like Fallon over Kimmel. He has a lot of energy. The SNL "more cowbell" skit he was in is hilarious. Pretty good in Fever Pitch too.

Date: Tues, June 19, 2012, 09:40:33 ET
Posted by: Greg M, white plains ny

<<He is hilarious when he's on the Stern show.>>

Indeed he was. Jimmy is cool.

and here is my required Dan tangent: Howard Stern does not like Steely Dan at all. His producer, Gary Dell'Abate (Ba-Ba-Booey), LOVES Steely Dan. They are often at odds over the Dan, on air...

Howard musical taste is obviously highly questionable. =)

Date: Tues, June 19, 2012, 07:53:25 ET
Posted by: Michael, @Carl

Whoops, I made that mistake, too. Gracias for pointing that out.

Date: Mon, June 18, 2012, 20:22:45 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa

Jimmy Fallon is actually a brilliant impressionist and has some of the most creative bits on any TV show today.
Do a You Tube search for Jimmy Fallon doing Neil Young. How can you not like that.
He is hilarious when he's on the Stern show.

Date: Mon, June 18, 2012, 14:03:34 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

I'm guilty of erroneously calling it the Kimmel show on at least two occasions here. Sorry, my bad.

I feel bad about it, especially considering Jimmy Kimmel is actually a reasonably funny guy while Jimmy Fallon doesn't have much to offer, humor-wise.

If they are going to keep their late-night shows, of these dudes needs to change his first name!

Date: Mon, June 18, 2012, 13:11:51 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando

Doh, you are right. Fallon's show. Wish we had an edit button around here.

Date: Mon, June 18, 2012, 12:55:10 ET
Posted by: Carl, kj

How come people keep saying "the Kimmel show" It was Jimmy Fallon, not Jimmy Kimmel. Unless the Dukes were on Kimmel and nobody told me about it.

Date: Mon, June 18, 2012, 11:39:03 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando

For the first few days after their appearance I tried to watch the Dukes of September part of the Kimmel show and just couldn't make it run for some reason. Checked around and found this today, which loads and ran easily. About 30 secs of commercials first.

Figured I would post in case anyone else had the same issues I did with watching it on Kimmel's show site.


My review is that they sound good, especially cold and doing one song in cramped quarters. I agree its a little jarring to have each of the three trade off vocals, but you have to remember its basically an advertisement and they want to tweak everyone's memory of "Yeah, I know that voice" and have them go buy tix. So not that surprising, imo.

Date: Mon, June 18, 2012, 09:06:37 ET
Posted by: The Zombie Homeboy, chillin'


Date: Sun, June 17, 2012, 21:02:47 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

I loved the Brothers Johnson cover on the Fallon show. I don't think it was a good showcase for Donald's talents, but I still loved the song and the band.
When I see them in July, I hope they play it again.
While I expect each of them to do songs from their storied past, their covers of other hit songs is fun and makes the shows unique.
While I expect Don to sing something off of "The Nightfly", I'd like to hear a rare cut like "Any Major Dude..." or "Here at the Western World".
Since we're only a few days away from the opening of the tour, we should have our answers soon.

Date: Sun, June 17, 2012, 20:01:45 ET
Posted by: Greg M, white plains

The Dukes on Fallon. I wasn't blown away either, BUT I ripped the song to a .wav and dropped it on the ipod. After a few listenings in the car (without the visual distraction of Carolyn..and Mike M's "fake" Wurlitzer...hahaha), the tune grew on me and I love the version now... It's excellent.

Date: Sun, June 17, 2012, 17:56:39 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Unexpected bonus from Kimmel show - lots of onscreen time for Carolyn L. E. Nice.

Hat tip to The Dean for kindnesses extended.

Date: Sun, June 17, 2012, 16:48:16 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!


"It was fine for what it was"...pretty much my take, too. This isn't Steely Dan after all. I have to think they choose that song as it gave each of the principals some mic time. It is also a neutral song (not Don's, Boz's or Mike's) that is representative of the material played at the concerts. I didn't find the swapping vocals jarring--but I can imagine how some might.

Even though I wasn't blown away, it was better than most of the musical performances I typically see on these kinds of shows.

Date: Sun, June 17, 2012, 07:53:58 ET
Posted by: Michael,

*shrugs* I wasn't expecting to be floored by their performance or anything. It was fine for what it was. I'm waiting for Don's new album.

Date: Sun, June 17, 2012, 02:50:56 ET
Posted by: bob, uncle

BC Bill- I agree. I'm not a big fan of this groups song selections in general. These 3 guys are playing what gets them off. I think that's great..... for them.

Date: Sat, June 16, 2012, 22:31:17 ET
Posted by: BC Bill, where else? BC

Ouch. Just saw The Dukes on the Fallon webstream. I have to differ with the opinions posted so far. I thought it was not a great choice of song - the original was great of course, but I thought here it sort of dragged. But mostly I thought the contrast in 3 voices was jarring. Dunno..I just feel that the enormous talent on stage wasn't showcased well. Anybody else?

Date: Sat, June 16, 2012, 12:35:15 ET
Posted by: bob, uncle

Dean - Don't apologize. Mr. Rubin is a school boy.

Date: Sat, June 16, 2012, 08:10:40 ET
Posted by: Michael,

The Dukes sounded pretty good on Kimmel.

Date: Fri, June 15, 2012, 20:24:53 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Amusing stuff, as usual.

And I apologize for assuming many of your posts were merely drunkin rants. It now seems far more likely they are acid-induced hallucinations.

Just watched the Dukes on Kimmel. Overall enjoyable (although my audio was out of sync withe video). But why did they hide the horns from the audience? Also the "bandstand" crowd was more than a bit lame, IMO.

Date: Fri, June 15, 2012, 19:01:35 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Billie, funny or not, I think the question is:

How is this Dan-gential in any way?

I have defended some of your posts in the past, but this seems more suited for a general interest forum--which this is not, as far as I know. Many of us old-timers have been reprimanded by The Boss (here that means "Hoops") for posting random stuff we found interesting. (Ask about some RIP obit stuff from a year or two ago.)

While it doesn't bother me too much that you sometimes post stuff that seem totally unrelated to Steely Dan (I'm guessing many are just drunkin' contributions--but what the hell do I know?)--you are currently the biggest offender in the non-Dan related post count. Still it is easy for one to just scroll through stuff that doesn't interest one--so it isn't that big of a deal to me.

Just sayin'

Beast, that's some good recall there. I remember waiting for that tour. Oh well--I guess it all worked out. So we should expect Don's new one sometime in the 2020's?

Date: Fri, June 15, 2012, 16:13:43 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Name, Wishful Thinking, NJ

Hey Kids,

Here's a treat... In the January 16 1986 issue of Rolling Stone, on the page that reads IN THE NEWS, there it was in black and white (and yellow):

"Donald Fagen and Walter Becker are reforming Steely Dan. The two musicians, who parted ways in 1981 after the release of Gaucho, are planning to recruit an honest-to-God band this time and hit the road for the first Steely Dan tour in more than a decade."

Not bad, guys. It only took nearly 8 additional years until August of 1993 to make it happen for real, excluding the NYRSR and various club gigs.

This is one of the many things that made us all long-suffering fans the fans that we are today.

Incidentally, this year marks the 19th anniversary of that Fresh for '93 Tour, which was 19 years after their last official tour.
Consider that an honorable mention for symmetry's sake.

Beast out.

Date: Fri, June 15, 2012, 14:50:02 ET
Posted by: Billie Ruben, same old same old

Ted, the video has over 700,000 views and over 4000 likes in less than a month and "Ted" the Steely Dan fan is offended by it...

Question of the Day: Does the world lack a sense of humor or is it just Ted from Seattle?

Date: Fri, June 15, 2012, 14:48:35 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

Nice video of the Dukes. The whole band was mostly Steely Dan. They sounded great and that was one of my favorite Brothers Johnson songs. Boy was Donald animated. He was really into it. But, I don't think I've heard him use the work "love" in a song. It seemed a bit strange, but great nonetheless.

Date: Fri, June 15, 2012, 13:45:43 ET
Posted by: Caves of, you know...


Date: Fri, June 15, 2012, 12:24:44 ET
Posted by: ted, Seattle

Billie Ruben- That wasn't funny. Take it some place else.

Date: Fri, June 15, 2012, 10:07:24 ET
Posted by: dukes on tv, last nite

at about 35:45
playing "i'll be good to you"

Date: Fri, June 15, 2012, 10:02:01 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Jazzassin taking us to school.

"Godonald" has a ring to it. All news/updates on the new one seem to have completely dried up.

Date: Fri, June 15, 2012, 05:10:48 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, in the hammock, still waiting


Yes, the Columbus reference IS actually really a Beckett/Godot reference. "While we wait for Columbus" was a norwegian '70s play which leant heavily on Beckett's classic w/ a twist or two. And no one exept me and one more chimp who isn't here remember it, or have ever heard of it. I'm perfectly aware of the fact that this silly nonsense has some pretty far fetched aspects to it. I chose to post it anyway. For some reason i had the feeling the reference would be understood correctly in this context nevertheless, and if not so, it would make some people a bit curious, which is a good thing in itself. I had not foreseen tommytomato's response from Columbus,OH, though.
And, yes, the Little Feat connection was semi-intentional; I would guess many veteran Dan fans are also Little Feat fans.

Maybe Donald should change his name to Godonald. And while we're waiting for Christopher Godonald, the ghost of Lowell G & the t-t-tomato in the hammock in Columbus (or was that Atlanta, GA?) and so on ad absurdum, we'll try to entertain eachother a little here on the Bluebook.

Date: Thurs, June 14, 2012, 23:27:14 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the run

The Steely Dan show replaced Hank's Pad sometime during the European leg of the 2000 tour. Then it was reprised for the 2003 US tour.

Date: Thurs, June 14, 2012, 18:48:06 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Jazzy when you said "while we wait for Columbus" I assumed you were making a Little Feat reference.

Is "Waiting for Columbus" similar to "Waiting for Godot"? I've never heard of it used that way, but then again, I haven't heard of a lot of things.

Date: Thurs, June 14, 2012, 18:00:09 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass

I'm pretty sure they opened up the 2nd set every night with "The Steely Dan Show" in 2003...could be wrong.

Date: Thurs, June 14, 2012, 14:58:11 ET
Posted by: Marvin, not my real name

I'm pretty sure they started the second set of every show in 2003 with the Steely Dan show. Don then came on stage and said it was a tribute to the band written by... well...us!. Anyway, that's how it went down at all four shows I saw on that tour. Jim Pugh liked to sing along. And when it came time to vote for the Best Swag Danny award, I answered that I did indeed pass up a deal like that.

At one show, they were offering a free SD hat if you signed up for a credit card, but I figured that would be even more detrimental to my long term financial wellbeing than paying the $72 they were asking at the swag stand.

Date: Thurs, June 14, 2012, 13:49:01 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the quick

Thanks again, Doc, and, especially, Jazzassin.

Date: Thurs, June 14, 2012, 12:53:01 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Scan-Dan-Aviator


You are so right. The Steely Dan Show was of course played several times at different venues during the 2003 tour. I've heard recordings from some of the shows, and it was indeed a part of the setlist more than once. The L.A. shows 10-01 and 10-02 is another example. For all I know it could have been played every night of that tour. I never saw any of them myself, I'm afraid.
Thanks for refreshing my memory on this subject.

What's really amusing is the fact that I used the headline "Music to your ears while we wait for Columbus" above my post, meaning of course that we all wait for something that seems to never happen (Donald's new one). And the first reply came from you - in Columbus, OH! Pretty cool! :D

Date: Thurs, June 14, 2012, 03:38:51 ET
Posted by: Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport, The Lucky Country

Ola compadres de Steely Dan Norte Americano....do you think it's possible, somewhat romantic with a sniff of fragrant day-old roses, that The Dan will tour this sunburnt land again post 2011. I have lived, breathed in the dingy dust of their last tour, and wonder if my nostrils may savor the treasure of a blustery blast of nostalgia that may never pass this way again? However, going by the positive and aggressive intro comments of Sir Walter, such a southern sojourn south of the equator didn't seem that remote, otra vez!

Ciao, a Dan of a different name.

Date: Wed, June 13, 2012, 18:29:06 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

The Steely Dan Show always manages to crack me up. A tip-o-the-hat to commercialism.

For those who care, here are the lyrics (from steelydan.com):

Boys and Girls
They come from all around
From dear old Stockholm
To Copenhagen town
Forget their troubles
In tasty riddum n' rime
So here you are
And now it's party time
Wrap your mind
Around this sound
And let the goodness ripple down
Goodbye to Lonely Street
You're in the Catbird Seat

If you got backpacks
And pointy little shoes
Late-model roadsters
Or just those walkin' blues
A case of heartache
That you're too numb to fight
A secret sorrow
That keeps you up all night
Well don't you fret
It's not your fault
Just lay it all on Don and Walt
Just trip out on these hits
The groove that never quits

So buy a program
And/or a hat
You don't pass up a deal like that
It's only promo stuff
But hey it's good enough

Date: Wed, June 13, 2012, 18:28:06 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

The Steely Dan Show always manages to crack me up. A tip-o-the-hat to commercialism.

For those who care, here are the lyrics (from steelydan.com):

Boys and Girls
They come from all around
From dear old Stockholm
To Copenhagen town
Forget their troubles
In tasty riddum n' rime
So here you are
And now it's party time
Wrap your mind
Around this sound
And let the goodness ripple down
Goodbye to Lonely Street
You're in the Catbird Seat

If you got backpacks
And pointy little shoes
Late-model roadsters
Or just those walkin' blues
A case of heartache
That you're too numb to fight
A secret sorrow
That keeps you up all night
Well don't you fret
It's not your fault
Just lay it all on Don and Walt
Just trip out on these hits
The groove that never quits

So buy a program
And/or a hat
You don't pass up a deal like that
It's only promo stuff
But hey it's good enough

Date: Wed, June 13, 2012, 17:54:00 ET
Posted by: tommytomato, Columbus OH


"Steely Dan Show" the version you speak of may have been the first...but it certainly wasn't the last.

Here is a clip from 8-11-03 Pine Knob Music Center (now called DTE Energy Music Theatre) Clarkston Michigan.


Date: Wed, June 13, 2012, 16:59:24 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Music to your ears while we wait for Columbus

Here's a quite silly, rare Dan thing. It's called "The Steely Dan Show", and was performed live for the first (and maybe last?) time by themselves in Oslo, Norway, September 2nd, 2000. This lucky poster witnessed the crime, of course.

Morcaiden has made a video and put it on Youtube:


And for the fans of Jon Herington, here's our guitar slinger playing a little ol' diddy at GuitarShopTV, just him and his modded Gibson CS336:


Enjoy! :)

Date: Wed, June 13, 2012, 10:49:06 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, listening to Pat & Pot right now!

Thanks, Dean!
For good measure, lets throw in the Spotify url as well:


Date: Wed, June 13, 2012, 09:45:24 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Jazzassin, thanks for the Unity Band news. I'm checking out some of it now on youtube:




And I thought I'd add the Amazon link too in case there are any others here who want to buy it but avoid iTunes whenever possible:


Date: Wed, June 13, 2012, 09:00:02 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Pat & Potter / Unity Band

Former Steely Dan tenorist Chris Potter joins Pat Metheny to form "Unity Band".
New album out now. Song previews here:


Date: Wed, June 13, 2012, 08:42:38 ET
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Date: Tues, June 12, 2012, 19:10:15 ET
Posted by: W1P, LA

My friends in Led Zepagain had most of their (expensive) gear stolen from a hotel in Morgan Hill, CA early Sunday morning.

Please be on the lookout for any Zep type gear you might see on ebay, Craigslist, etc. The guitarist lost 2 Gibson Sunburst Les Paul's, a Gibson doubleneck, Danelectro & Taylor acoustic guitar. Also a Mojave Coyote amp head, custom pedalboard with Led Zepagain stencilled on it, cable bag with theramin, and an accesory case with misc supplies.

The bass player lost a Fender Jazz bass, Mark bass amp, Ensoniq keyboard and sound module rack.

The Drummer lost his Vistalite kick drum and cymbals. Most of the cases had Led Zepagain stencilled.

Please let me know if you see anything suspicious, and if you have any connections with local music shops and other online forums, please notify them. We want to get the word out as far and wide as we can!

Date: Tues, June 12, 2012, 16:45:39 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, can't write proper english

*quite a few* goddammit.

Date: Tues, June 12, 2012, 16:41:10 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, ja ja

Omartian played on quite few other SD/Don songs as well. Maybe I put up a complete list one of these days.

Date: Tues, June 12, 2012, 16:31:52 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Oh, Martian?

How about ... Michael Omartian WAS actually playing on Aja, Rikki and Pretzel Logic.

I'd love to see documentation of some kind that Mr. Omartian played on one or more of the other songs on that list. That would be new to this skeptic, at least.
But what do I know.

Eventually, maybe 3 out of 15 ain't that bad....

Date: Tues, June 12, 2012, 13:29:20 ET
Posted by: A, TT

Omartian's piano on Katy Lied is probably the most indelible mark any sideman made with SD.

Date: Tues, June 12, 2012, 12:05:17 ET
Posted by: How about,

Regarding Michael Omaritian: How about the following?

Kid Charlemagne
Deacon Blues
Do It Again
Hey 19
My Old School
Dirty Work
Black Cow
Dirty Work
Pretzel Logic

He was a session musician for ABC Records for quite a stint.

Date: Tues, June 12, 2012, 11:51:11 ET
Posted by: Fred,

Speaking of Michael Omaritian, Rolling Stone's recent obit for Donna Summer noted Michael, long associated with Donna, is fighting leukemia. Good wishes, thoughts and blessings to M.O.

BTW: Besides Here At The Western World and The Nightfly, are there any other SD-connected tracks that Michael Omaritian plays on?

Date: Tues, June 12, 2012, 08:55:20 ET
Posted by: Phil, Pau

Hi KB, I understand that for an American spanish and french are close but the page you mention is indeed written in french and not in spanish !!!
Look at there and you will get what Mr Omartian said:

Waiting for the new Don


Date: Tues, June 12, 2012, 08:50:10 ET
Posted by: search, kb

Here's an interview in Spanish with Michael Omartian. I understood Steely Dan, Donald Fagen, Walter Becker and Gary Katz. Maybe somebody can interpret the rest.


Date: Mon, June 11, 2012, 09:22:00 ET
Posted by: Hicnic,

Happy birthday Bernard. Still pretty after all these years.

Date: Sun, June 10, 2012, 19:39:59 ET
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Date: Sun, June 10, 2012, 17:28:20 ET
Posted by: Chis, nh

Here's hoping for a Dukes/Roots jam on Fallon. And here's hoping it sparks a Roots/Steely Dan collab ...

Date: Sun, June 10, 2012, 13:51:28 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beach


Donald's site is not showing ALL of the confirmed dates yet.

Date: Sun, June 10, 2012, 13:18:38 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, South Beach

New desktop anyone?


Date: Sun, June 10, 2012, 08:44:45 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower

finally, on donaldfagen.com, a link on the top titled:

This summer, I MUST PARTY with the three DUKES OF SEPTEMBER...

click on it and you go to a complete schedule for the Dukes tour

Date: Sat, June 09, 2012, 15:32:31 ET
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Date: Sat, June 09, 2012, 15:24:53 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Two editions of the Dandom Digest were mailed about 14 hours ago. One from from May 1-31, 2012 and the other covered June 1-8, 2012. You should already have both in your email boxes by now. If not, check your spam filters first; then, if it's not there, please email me and I will send a fresh copy.

THERE WAS A MIX-UP...so the Headlines summary at the top of June 1-8 Digest were actually those from the April 1-30 Digest. If you'd like to see the April Digest, please email me privately at hoops at dandom.com and I will send a copy. (For technical reasons, please, no requests via Facebook messages.)

Headlines/Subjects in the May 1-31 Dandom Digest:

- Rolling Stone: Dukes of September Tour Overview
- Toast To Freedom
- Fagen, others in charity tributeto Bob Dylan in Woodstock
- RS: Donald, Boz, other Play Dylanfest in NYC
- Herington explains his guitar rig
- 2vN Mastering
- DF, ES & MTC
- REDUX: New Fagen Album Mastered
- PGE, Yep, it's another cover!
- Jeff Baxter on New Beach Boys Album

The CORRECT Headlines/Subjects for the June 1-8 Dandom Digest:

- DF.com: Donald Writes about Levon Helm
- 6/9: Chicagoland's Reely Dan play with Howard Levy
- Be In The Audience: Dukes on Jimmy Fallon Show
- REDUX: Over 40 Dukes Dates and Counting
- Follow Dandom.com on Facebook
- Follow @DandomDOTcom on Twitter
- REDUX: Monkey House To Play First Manhattan Show 7/26, Bitter End

If you are not currently a subscriber but would like to receive the free Dandom Digest email newsletter, please email me at hoops AT dandom DOT com or see http://www.dandom.com/dandomdigest.

For the record, the Dandom Digest is a newsletter with unofficial content written by and for the fans of Steely Dan. The newsletter is independent of, nor to be confused with, the glorious and much more glamorous official newsletters from steelydan.com, walterbecker.com, donaldfagen.com and other sites, email lists, and social media contraptions of Steely Dan associates.

Thanks for your support through the years, especially Pete and Shari and Gus and remembering Mark and Bill.


Date: Sat, June 09, 2012, 13:16:38 ET
Posted by: T. Wolfe,

I'm surprised "Crazy Legs" Becker didn't provide a rant for this one"


Date: Sat, June 09, 2012, 12:55:03 ET
Posted by: latest digest question,

A few things seem to be missing from one of the latest digests

What is the "Great Second Arrangement Story"?


Date: Sat, June 09, 2012, 09:46:34 ET
Posted by: Tristan and Gus, on the Avenue by Radio City

Jaded aesthetes of Dandom, may we humbly draw your attention to tonight's Steely Dan Show, 7-midnight EDT on WUSB 90.1 FM, http://wusb.fm. Five hours of a Dan addict's fever dream, with some of the deepest cuts since Daddy left that New York City. No excuses: all five hours will be archived on the station website for the week following the broadcast. Don't let George do it -- join us and share the things we love with those of our kind.

Date: Sat, June 09, 2012, 06:44:49 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

I don't think that you have to go any further than "The Nightfly" to appreciate Donald Fagen's deep knowledge of Delta Blues. The reference to Belzoni, Mississippi and Charlie Patton is no accident. Belzoni was where W.R. Calaway found Charlie Patton in jail when he was looking for him to record. This is Gayle Dean Wardlow's account:

"H.C. Speir made a demo of Son House, Willie Brown, and Charlie Patton and sent it to W. R. Calaway. And Calaway came down to Speir's store in 1934 to get their addresses. He went into the Delta and found Patton in jail in Belzoni-finally tracked him down to Belzoni from Holly Ridge where he was living at that time, which is in Sunflower County. And he took him back to Meridian, and they rode the train from Meridian to New York City. And Patton recorded up there for a couple of days, Patton and his wife Bertha Lee. That's the only two Mississippi people I know of, John Hurt and Charlie Patton, that ever went to New York to record."1

This story was immortalized in the song "High Sheriff Blues": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBWKGUHUF6U.

This session occurred in Jan. 30-Feb. 1 of 1934. Less than 3 months later, Patton was dead (April 28, 1934).

It's pretty clear to me that Donald was acutely aware of the circumstances of Charlie Patton's last recording session in New York

Also, read Donald's fine piece occasioned by the death of Ike Turner: http://www.donaldfagen.com/writing_items.php?itemID=95.

Donald was listening to more than Ellington, and more than big band.

Date: Fri, June 08, 2012, 18:43:20 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

While Ellington and Coltrane, etc. may have been among our guys' primary jazz influences, I wouldn't be surprised if they also heard the Sonny Boy Williamson stuff. The jazz station Don listened to didn't play only one or two artists and Don regularly traveled to NYC to hear jazz. It isn't far fetched to think something like the Memphis Slim stuff was something he might have been exposed to. In fact, this is one of the Billie Rubin song posts I actually think was somewhat relevant.

I have to admit some of the electronica and country stuff he posts leaves me baffled.

But hey, that's me.

Date: Fri, June 08, 2012, 16:58:17 ET
Posted by: Larry,

Billy - the "kind of stuff"? Ellington and Coltrane were more like it. Nice try though

Date: Fri, June 08, 2012, 08:04:07 ET
Posted by: Michael, @Lutz

"Hopefylly we'll hear something Dan or Fagen, not some 60 year old boogie woogie tune.."

Don't get your hopes up.

Date: Thurs, June 07, 2012, 22:33:15 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

My friend and I are going to make a little vacation out of a Dukes show. This will be her first Dangential experience. We are going down to Gulf Shores for a few days in the sun and the Dukes show on Saturday July 21 at The Warf. Hopefully a hurricane free zone. So we will be open to a Duke Fest. Post if you are going to Orange Beach for the Dukes!

Date: Thurs, June 07, 2012, 20:26:56 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Good point, Dean.
They all seem to be getting stale, including the Leno and Letterman.
I'd rather watch Tosh.O
Hopefylly we'll hear something Dan or Fagen, not some 60 year old boogie woogie tune..

Date: Thurs, June 07, 2012, 18:17:02 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Would I sit through the Jimmy Fallon show to hear a song or two from The Dukes? I might.

I know I wouldn't be able to sit through Conan, though.

Date: Thurs, June 07, 2012, 12:21:15 ET
Posted by: Carl, Seattle

Doc- That's wonderful news....for people that live in the NYC area. Not for me.

Date: Thurs, June 07, 2012, 07:34:20 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower

On Thursday, June 14th, 2012 the Dukes of September will be performing on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon. Here is where you come in� How would you like a chance to be close to the Dukes' performance on the show?

Click on the link below and you will be directed to the �Band Bench� Sweepstakes entry form. Enter for a chance to win seats on the show's band benches and an opportunity to surround the stage during the Dukes of September�s performance.

Please make sure you include the following band code: DUK, in your entry form.


Date: Wed, June 06, 2012, 23:39:07 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy

Da Dukes start the party in two weeks! Who else is heading to The Fox? Any Duke Fests taking shape? I wonder how varied the setlist will be from '10. Maybe it's gonna be totally different?

Date: Tues, June 05, 2012, 01:24:31 ET
Posted by: knopfler,

In an interview w/ either Knopfler or Becker/Fagen, someone said Knopfler had a tape of the song. When he got to the session he told them he only had time to learn one part of the song, and Becker/Fagen said it was fine, they wouldn't have him play on the parts he didn't know.

Sounds worth a million dollars worth of preparation to me.

Date: Mon, June 04, 2012, 21:02:43 ET
Posted by: Hutch, @Cuervo Gold

Speaking of tasty guitar players. Listening to the studio version of Hey 19 recently and focusing in on Hugh McCracken's parts. I heard a little lick that he does over the line "Hard times befallen the soul survivors" that I'd never noticed before really... a very nice little sliding thing.
It's always cool when you hear something "new" in a song you've listened to hundreds of times. I can definitely see why this guy is an A-list "rhythm' guitarist.

So just before I posted this, wandering around on youtube, I came across this as luck would have it...


Date: Mon, June 04, 2012, 18:31:34 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!



Date: Mon, June 04, 2012, 16:54:35 ET
Posted by: Larry,

Dean - I hate the way you always are assuming:

During Dire Straits' recent U.S. tour, Knopfler was called to New York to do a session with Steely Dan. ,,I really enjoyed that," be says. ,,It was strange at first, however, because it seemed like such a rarefied atmosphere. I played a guitar part on one song. but all I did was overdub, not play with a group. I was very pleased with the results, but I don't really see that as being my scene. We don't make our records in the same way. It took us about three weeks to do each of our albums. But with this session, the process seemed so much more painstaking, which is just a different way of making a record.

,,As I was saying, since there were no charts, I just listened to tapes and then played over them. I could have been given the chords. but some of those fancier ones I don't know the names of and probably couldn't play. What I always try to do is to respond to the song; I�ve always rebelled against theory. Guitar playing for me is a compulsive activity. I'm not against learning technique. however, and I'm certainly not against acquiring new knowledge. I don't have any favorite keys that I play in. To me, different keys have different colors, different qualities, so I like playing in lots of them."

Date: Mon, June 04, 2012, 16:21:11 ET
Posted by: bob, cheese

A million bucks to MK for Time Out Of Mind? Now THAT'S a joke!

Date: Mon, June 04, 2012, 14:56:45 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Roidy Clemens,

You are correct. Only pro sports figures get ridiculously overpaid.

...and the owners of those same sports teams

...and second rate actors (Tom Cruise, Ryan Reynolds, Julia Roberts, etc)

...and CEO's of failing corporations

But back to Knopfler. I am willing to believe Mark was paid a very hefty sum of cash---based on what I have read the boys were tossing it around in those days. But I also tend to believe the million dollar claim to be your basic literary hyperbole.

Date: Mon, June 04, 2012, 12:36:35 ET
Posted by: Roidy Clemens,

Right re: Knopfler. Only pro sports figures get ridiculously overpaid.

Date: Mon, June 04, 2012, 11:42:03 ET
Posted by: Dan Historian, C

I'm not referencing Brian Sweet here, merely the same source he did in his book. The source was Robert Palmer's Rolling Stone story called "Triumph and Disaster in the Custerdome."

MCA priced Gaucho $1 more than whatever albums were going for at the time ($8.98 vs. $7.98, or $9.98 vs. $8.98, can't remember.) One of the reasons they gave is that Gaucho cost a million dollars to make. Gary Katz said it costs considerably less than that, so if you take that at face value, Knopfler wasn't given anywhere near that much.

But Knopfler was with Warner Bros. and they were expecting to have the rights to the album. Maybe they picked up the tab?

Date: Mon, June 04, 2012, 09:48:30 ET
Posted by: Hicnic,

Victor Aaron's Steely Dan Sunday article focuses on Time Out of Mind, and he states that Mark Knopfler was paid a million bucks for playing on the song - is that possible?


Date: Sun, June 03, 2012, 11:36:50 ET
Posted by: The Greater Dandom, Everywhere

We miss you Mark! Happy Earth Birthday!

Date: Sat, June 02, 2012, 22:38:23 ET
Posted by: J. Pizzarelli, Great Northeast

And why does D. Fagen question my mention here?

Date: Thurs, May 31, 2012, 23:24:27 ET
Posted by: Nwk, Laundry room


Date: Thurs, May 31, 2012, 19:29:42 ET
Posted by: D. Fagen,

Why do you mention John Pizzarelli's name here?

Date: Thurs, May 31, 2012, 12:35:59 ET
Posted by: Dukes, Press


Date: Wed, May 30, 2012, 19:22:20 ET
Posted by: wfwoueij, New York

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Date: Tues, May 29, 2012, 21:29:23 ET
Posted by: Wonder, Of It All

People in the Northeast US best know John Pizarrelli for this casino jingle. Well, they definitely know the jingle, but probably not that he sings it. Next time SD plays Foxwoods, maybe Don can repay the favor and cover this. NOT


Date: Tues, May 29, 2012, 16:57:20 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

@PGE - Indeed, covers are running amok. After some extended listening, I recommend the aforementioned Double Exposure CD, and not just for the DF covers. Song clips can be found here:


If one googles "donald fagen's new solo album," one will be reminded that in 2010 were were hoping for the release of the new one in 2011. I hear you are singing a song of he past.

Date: Tues, May 29, 2012, 11:34:08 ET
Posted by: search, x

Quotes from DF about Dylan and Levon Helm.


Date: Mon, May 28, 2012, 14:58:38 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Michael - they didn't. I am guessing that's when it will drop, but it's all a guess. Think some folks might be missing this, so I'm clarifying once more.

Date: Mon, May 28, 2012, 12:07:01 ET
Posted by: Big Fan, Memorial Day

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Oz is a chopsmeister of the highest order with a wealth of weapons in his trick bag. A master manipulator of tones and effects, he can deftly switch from lacerating single note work to Leslie-imbued organ stylings (a la Charlie Hunter) to jaw-dropping wah-wah-inflected lines…sometimes within the same song (as he does so nonchalantly on the scintillating title track). And while he emigrated to New York City in 1996 from his native israel, you’d swear he had a lengthy stopover in New Orleans by the sound of his authentic second line groover “Oh Really” featuring Allen Toussaint and his interpretation of The Meters’ funk anthem, “Cissy Strut.”

Date: Mon, May 28, 2012, 11:28:59 ET
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Date: Sun, May 27, 2012, 13:44:58 ET
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Date: Sun, May 27, 2012, 12:23:11 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

I was going to say that Aja and Gaucho were released in the Fall. A Fall release for Fagen's one-off followed by a SD Winter (not unprecedented) and a second Spring/Summer tour would not be a shock.

...or whatever...

Date: Sun, May 27, 2012, 10:57:43 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Hold your horses. Since when did they announce a 2013 release date? I say it will be out this year, probably by late summer/early fall.

Date: Sun, May 27, 2012, 10:14:15 ET
Posted by: Billie R. ,

It's usually best to release an album shortly before a tour. Maybe that's why the 2013 release date. These days the new music helps sell the upcoming tour.

Date: Sun, May 27, 2012, 08:58:12 ET
Posted by: Milt, M

I don't think competition is much of a factor anymore because DF's fan base is the fan base. It's not like 1977 when they delayed Aja throughout the product glutted summer. But whatever kind of resources Warner needs to allocate to a new release, that's where the scheduling comes into play.

A few years back, Warner had the rights to a great movie called Ripley's Game with John Malkovich, and it went direct to video in the US because they were too busy promoting the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

Date: Sun, May 27, 2012, 00:50:20 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Hey now, my guess was just a guess - I certainly hope it's out sooner! It's based on this info:

1) It has only recently been mastered (based on some articles that have been posted here), which means the whole thing was REALLY in the can fairly recently

2) Record companies - especially big behemoth dinosaurs like Warner - have strict release schedules dependent on a number of factors including when a certain market segment might be interested in purchasing a certain release, competition, etc

3) If the record was JUST really completed, artwork is now being finalized and the whole promotional machine is revving up. Remember, even though this one was cheaper to record, it's Warner, not Becker's indie label.

4) TvN, EMG, MTC, and C$ were all released in the first half of the year, and the first half of the year is over as of Thursday.

5) Fagen/Becker/SD releases take forever.

Date: Sat, May 26, 2012, 18:09:36 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Given that the fella in the Brite Nightgown is visiting Donald's fanbase with increasing frequency, you'd think they'd just release the hounds already!

Mike Love's lyrics on the BB album appear predictably bad and nostalgic, but Brian Wilson and the harmonies can still produce THAT SOUND...and without autotune. Best to let the thing wash over ya like a lazy afternoon on the dunes...

Date: Sat, May 26, 2012, 13:39:41 ET
Posted by: O. Rank,

C. Rogers:

I think you're mostly correct. I would also add he wisely plays many gigs to keep his "downer" proclivities at bay.

Date: Sat, May 26, 2012, 12:36:50 ET
Posted by: bob, boston

Dean: Stop predicting already. I'm still waiting for the Steely Dan 40th anniversary tour this year that you were so POSITIVE was going to happen! Sheech!

Date: Sat, May 26, 2012, 08:28:42 ET
Posted by: Michael,

I really don't know what to say. If it's postponed until late in the year or 2013, that says to me that the label is simply incompetent. Intentionally stalling an album release makes absolutely no sense; the market for Donald's album isn't going to magically expand over the course of the year. His fanbase is pretty much plainset and will gobble up whatever new release is made available despite the date and time. Therefore, stalling would achieve absolutely nothing.

Date: Sat, May 26, 2012, 00:23:10 ET
Posted by: Shark DeVille, Dangential News Item of the Day

Jeff Baxter plays some guitar on the new Beach Boys album, due on June 5...

"Beaches in Mind," a funky little mid-tempo romp featuring Jeff "Skunk" Baxter on guitar and Scott Bennett on clavinet and organ, is one of the first tracks Love worked on.


Date: Fri, May 25, 2012, 19:52:18 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. Time To Leave!

Moray eel,

You are correct--i had forgotten about the '93 tour---and it wasn't a Fagen tour but a SD tour. But I accept that as a tour after release.

But that doesn't change my point. Becker didn't tour after C$. SD did but they performed no music from that release to the best of my recollection.

Not saying the Dukes tour won't influence the release, just no certain it will.

Date: Fri, May 25, 2012, 19:13:19 ET
Posted by: Moray eel, 19

They toured in '93 to support Kamakiriad. Teahouse on the Tracks, Countermoon, Tomorrow's Girls, etc. all played.


Date: Fri, May 25, 2012, 18:51:35 ET
Posted by: C. Rogers,

Why DF likes to sit in w/ bands playing relatively simplistic music (ie., Dylan's "Down Along the Cove")compared to SD's oeuvre:
1)It's liberating to his otherwise neurotic/perfectionistic brain.
2)If he screws up, no one really gives a crap, including him, because there's no heavy audience expectations concerning the music.
3)He generally likes the music and being around people not as complex as him.
4)He wishes he was Dylan, Ray Charles, Levon Helm or someone "who is what dey is".

Date: Fri, May 25, 2012, 17:36:33 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

I think predicting the Fagen release based on traditional concerns (such as touring, etc) is as good an approach as any--at it might actually be delayed until next year. But I'm not convinced it is a certainty the release will wait until after the Dukes tour simply because the Dukes won't support the album with a tour. The Dan doesn't really support their albums with a tour (they tour and occasionally play a song or two from the new one, but that is hardly the basis of the show) and Don's first two solo albums had NO tour, whatsoever. He did tour after Morph's release (and I think they played one song off of the album when I saw him) but that might be more of a fluke than anything. Again, not saying you are wrong--just saying.

As for trying to predict the name of the new one--well, it seems a bit like masturbation. It's fun at the time for the person doing it--but I'm not sure I want to watch the process. :#)

Date: Fri, May 25, 2012, 14:41:39 ET
Posted by: Knows all, Tells some

I don't see it being released until the Dukes tour is over because

1. The Dukes is not the vehicle to promote it, but
2. ignoring your new release while touring diminishes its significance.

No way it's coming before the Dukes tour wraps.

Date: Fri, May 25, 2012, 14:22:37 ET
Posted by: PGE, Now you hear it, now you don't

"I see no reason why it shouldn't be out within a couple of months. The album is done already, so there's no justifiable excuse for holding off until late this year or 2013."

Record companies etc do not crave a justifiable excuse to postpone an album release. At least not from a fan's view.

Recently Elton John's already recorded album was pushed from an autumn release to early 2013. You'd think they'd like to hang on to the media stir that the collaboration with Leon Russell titled "The Union", but apparently there are intricate reasons why it should be delayed: "promotional time frames and related marketing opportunitie".

I am sure Donald's new one will be released eventually ... but 2013 is not THAT unbelievable. Let's just hope some label executive heard it and found it to be the "perfect album for the summer of 2012!" :)


Thanks to The Dean for the help with the links.

@Nicholas Urfe: Is it just me or is there an upswing in Steely/Fagen covers these days?

Date: Thurs, May 24, 2012, 13:32:00 ET
Posted by: Newark, Kitchen

Ok, ok, thx Steely Doc, your post helped me to find the word I was looking for to finish the title for the new album. But no, I cannot make a clear connection here between Dylan music, Donald music, and a new album title. Just that you mentioned Dylan tribute, yes, Dylan a master frontman and songwriter, and one whose musical catalog lies within and around the fringe the body of music that incorporates lots of "performing" behaviors such as "cues" and "handoffs" which uses impromptu elements, rather than say a performer who delivers scripted, practiced compositions that are followed to a " T." I Can't say for sure, but I include Dylan with the folksy guys who perform differently. Theirs is a different kind of music body with behaviors that can deviate on a dime, if you will, with more occurrences of surprising handoffs, cued or otherwise, that appease the leader's fancy while the music is actually being performed. It has to do with performing. In performances from the "folksy guys" and in jazz performances, movement happens on its own, creating a life on the spot. Hmmm. LIFE ON THE SPOT, that's a name for ya.

After thinking about the title TRIBOLOGY, the study of friction and lubrication, I turned to musical terminology:

I came up with HEMIOLA FLIPSIDE, TESSITURA, STORNELLO, and OBBLIGATO; then I pondered titles like LIKE ATTRACTS LIKE and CORIOLIS EFFECT: The Coriolis effect is a concern of pilots, where it can cause extreme disorientation. Well, my hope is that Donald's new album makes you so happy that you to spin around on your barstool until it throws you off.

And then I came up with VAMP TILL CUE, a jazz, fusion, and musical theatre term which instructs rhythm section members to repeat and vary a short ostinato passage, riff, or "groove" until the band leader or conductor instructs them to move onto the next section.

Well, thanks to Steely Doc, I came up with Vamp Till Handoff, because Donald's recent public performance dabbles have a lot to do with that body of music, "folksy" if you will, that uses a lot handoffs, probably more handoffs than cues, depending upon who the main guy on stage is. And I think you see a lot more cues (obvious nods towards players) in bluegrass than anywhere. Nonetheless, it's a behavior that happens when guys are performing and vamping out. I think. Anyway, to me the handoff is most exciting, but I dig "the cue" too. Yeal, DIG THE CUE.

Based upon the jazz term "Vamp Till Cue," which is what jazz musicians do (and I would argue, what bluegrass guys have always done), I decided upon the album name VAMP THE HANDOFF, so it would have four syllables. Of course, Donald's personality type would require that he "cue" ; but look now, he's been jamming with guys who do the handoffs and cues by nature always while performing, and Donald is dabbling in musical performances that are wayward, improvised, random, jamming, etc. rather than doing strictly structured stuff.

The album name VAMP TILL HANDOFF has some merit: there's dirt, some humor, some giveaway, some takeaway, some intrigue, some Vampire craze--LOL, and, of course, some jazz reference. But also, it hopes to show Donald loosening up, allowing those folksy performing behaviors to come into the admixture of the outcome. I also considered VAMP TILL DAYLIGHT which is different semantically--and good all the same.

After all Donald is working in many other genres. For example, playing around with songs like, I Shall be Released, Shake Down Street, and on, The main guy, like Dylan, Jerry, Levon, or even Del McCourey, for Christ's sake, use the cue--a visual nod, or lean, or turn towards, in the right direction for a guy to do his thing. The handoff, however, in my opinion, lacks the visual cue, it's a "heard cue," an instint, a feeling--a musician retreating as another is stepping up at the right moment, seizing a moment, seizing a lead with cooperative chemistry by the others who yield and accompany. It works. What do you think?

Some genre bands like Deep Purple demonstrated great handoffs because these musicians would seize a lead in their deepest cuts, rapturing, to resolve eventually with probably a vocal to bring it on home again. But then, a handoff may be the gentlest, sly, nuance. But for sure, I like it (a handoff) and know it when I hear it.

What makes a lot of music most interesting to me is the vamping on a great groove, that lingering for as long as it takes, until the next surprise. Nonetheless, the vamp is behavioral, the cue is behavioral, but the handoff (cued or otherwise) is a moment of retreat and attack at the same time. Handoffs are part of the depth and breadth of folksy performances. And jazz. And rock. Hmmm. I say performance not composition because I believe handoffs are behavioral--not composed or followed by a script. The handoff is the next step to resolve a vamp (or groove) to move the music forward.

[hmmm . . . SEIZE THE LEADER--how current and how ultimately funny that title would be]. Anyway in some of Deep Purple's deepest cuts, for instance, a great organ solo would handoff to an astonishing guitar lead with finesse, then perhaps a handoff to a double guitar lead, handing off to a scintillating vocal. Wishbone Ash comes to mind--bands who could stretch out a cool groove until ca-cow, some guy takes it!

The handoff behavior is inherent in bluegrass and is often cued. Same with jazz, I suppose. But you gotta admit, some of those early rock bands demonstrated astonishing handoffs that have yet to be surpassed. Well, Steelydoc, back to your mentioning of Dylan. What a memorizing show that's gonna be. Nwk NO TIME FOR PROOFING back to the sink. Hmmmm. . .

Date: Thurs, May 24, 2012, 08:13:20 ET
Posted by: steelydoc at maccc dott commm, near the Tower

Steely Dan�s Donald Fagen Performing at New York Bob Dylan Tribute on Thursday
24 May 2012

Donald Fagen is among the many stars who will help celebrate Bob Dylan�s 71st birthday Thursday at New York City�s annual Dylan Fest concert. Rolling Stone reports that the Steely Dan frontman will play with the event�s house band, The Cabin Down Below, throughout the show, which will take place at the Big Apple�s Irving Plaza.

The concert�s lineup also includes Fagen�s �Dukes of September� tour mate Boz Scaggs, Saturday Night Live�s Jason Sudeikis and SNL alumnus Will Forte, as well as some surprise guests. In addition, the 2012 Dylan Fest will feature a special tribute to late Band singer/drummer Levon Helm. Fagen frequently collaborated with Helm and is married to his ex-wife, Libby Titus.

Two dollars from each ticket sold to the show will be donated to Amnesty International.

Copyright 2012 ABC News Radio

Date: Thurs, May 24, 2012, 08:02:42 ET
Posted by: Michael,

I see no reason why it shouldn't be out within a couple of months. The album is done already, so there's no justifiable excuse for holding off until late this year or 2013.

Date: Wed, May 23, 2012, 23:03:36 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the quick

Do you mean 2013, A.D. or 2013, in the year of Our Ford?

Date: Wed, May 23, 2012, 19:09:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. Who do you have to screw to get a drink at this place?


You're killing me.

I'm not saying you are wrong mind you. But the 2013 release date prediction is killing me. It would be par for the course, though.

Date: Wed, May 23, 2012, 18:24:51 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, El Segundo Cubicle


In addition to his studio work for Donald, Mr. Martinez controlled the soundboard for the 2009 and 2011 SD tours, and I believe also for the 2010 Dukes tour.

Date: Wed, May 23, 2012, 18:22:03 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

For the hell of it/bragging rights, what's everyone's prediction for The New Fagen Album's release?

I predict: official announcement (title, tracks, etc) by the end of the summer, release date in Jan 2013

Date: Wed, May 23, 2012, 18:14:05 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. Time for Shots!


I was prepared to hate that Hospitality cover of Riki--but I didn't. Certainly oversimplified, but not bad, really.


Date: Wed, May 23, 2012, 18:11:15 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

These links work At least for me.



Date: Wed, May 23, 2012, 18:08:46 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!


I got a 404 File not found for both of your links. Weird. Did you break the Internet?

I will search for those vids and post the new URLs if they exist.

Thanks for the heads-up anyway.

Date: Wed, May 23, 2012, 14:05:53 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

PGE - it's a big band coincidence.

I just got John Pizzarelli's Double Exposure CD and it has big band, or at least something like big band, covers of Ruby Baby and Walk Between the Raindrops. Definitely worth a listen.

Date: Wed, May 23, 2012, 13:12:50 ET
Posted by: PGE, Two big band covers from Norway

http://youtu.be/eWxo-N0TrKE <- Black Cow

"The norwegian funkster Ole B�rud and Ett Fett Storband in studio session recording Steely Dan's "Black Cow" & "Babylon Sisters" at Norges Musikkh�gskole, Norway on May 2011. All music arranged for big band by Jarle G. Storl�kken. Recording and mastering by Ole Richard Korsan Stuwe."

http://youtu.be/UJUYxevXHfo <- Babylon Sisters

Posted on YouTube April 2012

Date: Wed, May 23, 2012, 12:23:16 ET
Posted by: search, kb

Charles Martinez is the engineer on Donald's new one according to this.


Date: Wed, May 23, 2012, 10:19:00 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy


Date: Wed, May 23, 2012, 10:14:42 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy


Date: Tues, May 22, 2012, 14:13:43 ET
Posted by: Rob, Re: Pat Metheny/Fagen show in NYC from 1991

I found this in the Bluebook achieves from 2011

Thurs, September 29, 2011, 23:42:10 ET
Posted by: Pete Fogel, NYC

Pat was in NYC recording a record at the time of the NY Nights shows. He came in one night to check it out and ended up getting called up to play on Chain Lightning and Black Friday. He didn't want to play because he didn't bring his guitar with him, but Jimmy Vivino convinced him to use one of his. He had such a good time that he committed to doing a full show a few months later. DF wanted him to play on Sign In Stranger, Josie and a few other SD songs. Pat came up to me before one of the rehearsals and said that he wasn't familiar with Sign In Stranger. I had to go to Tower Records and pick up a cassette of The Royal Scam and bring it over to him at the Omni Hotel so he could learn it. Somethings you never forget.

Date: Tues, May 22, 2012, 13:26:14 ET
Posted by: Search, F

If you missed Roger Waters on 60 Minutes Sunday.


Date: Tues, May 22, 2012, 11:35:16 ET
Posted by: Michael, @Chris

Good. And Michael McDonald's not alone. Many other artists are taking a stand against the major labels. The imminent 'termination rights' are going into effect very soon and many big-name artists are going to take back their works, 35 years too late IMO.

The good news news is that artists no longer need to sign along the dotted line with a record label in order to produce and distribute their own work, let alone keep 100% of the profits and full ownership. We're currently witnessing an explosion of independent artists who forego all the labels, creating a new, much-needed paradigm in the music industry. As soon as one sensation comes from the independent scene, the precedent will be set. Game over for the major labels.

Date: Tues, May 22, 2012, 11:09:46 ET
Posted by: Hey Shirley, gimme a grape soda

Going after Rerun for sneaking that tape recorder into the Doobies concert was just the tip of the iceberg.

Date: Tues, May 22, 2012, 10:26:15 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

McMike suing Warner for digital music royalties: http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/legal-and-management/doobie-brothers-michael-mcdonald-files-royalty-1007116952.story

Date: Tues, May 22, 2012, 00:00:30 ET
Posted by: utube, v

Fagen at Bearsville the other night



Date: Mon, May 21, 2012, 18:17:55 ET
Posted by: morey eel, L

It was at the Lone Star Roadhouse.


Date: Mon, May 21, 2012, 15:26:21 ET
Posted by: Newark, Eastern Shore

Hi there long time since I've been around, just a little lurking in my spare time inbetween David Bromberg Big Band shows. Haven't been around since the Raj and Mark loss--miss 'em; and now so many others. A few things I missed--so many posts going on, so shoot me down if I'm off track. Just wondering, were there a few messages where the title of Donald's new album was discussed, revealed, or speculated? If not, then perhaps we can play NAME THAT ALBUM. Of course, it's just a fantasy game that would reflect the mood/tone/direction one were hoping the music to head towards. Naturally, the REAL title will be a creative, cryptic, symbolic hook. NAME THAT ALBUM is a real challenge (expert level)since there seems so few clues. It could be one word with one syllable, but I would guess the REAL title whould have at least four syllables because its the fourth solo album. Morph the Cat had three syllables and it was the third album. Don't leave me playing with myself. NAME THAT ALBUM. LOL CU guys. Nwk

Date: Mon, May 21, 2012, 13:54:13 ET
Posted by: Rob, Netherworld

Yesterday, I visited a nice performance of Catherine Russell in Velsen (The Netherlands). She sang some great jazz standards. What a voice! Afterwards she signed her new cd. I asked her about her collaboration with Donald and Walter. 'I realy love working with these guys'. She told me that she did backing vocals on Donald's new recording. 'A real nice cd'. She will join Donald, Boz and Micheal this summer on their tour.

Date: Mon, May 21, 2012, 12:51:37 ET
Posted by: rick, ko phangan

The jet ski problem DOES exist on Koh Phangan � in haadrin many of the Jet ski operators are claiming travellers have damages the jetski�s when the obviously have not. Standard charges have been 100,000baht + � and others 50,000baht +. This is not just happening on Phuket this is here on Koh Phangan also. The jetski boys show a sign which lists warnings and disclaimers so you must be a fool to put yourself at risk by agreeing to this. This document is apparently produced by the Police themselves! I have been told of many situations by young travellers who have stayed at my resort and had problems.

Date: Mon, May 21, 2012, 06:44:28 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Gold?

Oh, I just checked the SD Database, and it seems the gig w/ Donald Fagen & Guests/ Pat Metheny took place somewhere in NYC December 3, 1991.
Gary Gold played drums with Fagen on many occasions in this period, but I'm really not sure if it's him on this track. Would still like to have the lineup!

Date: Mon, May 21, 2012, 06:07:23 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, signing in again


It's probably not Steely Dan, but rather Donald Fagen Band that Metheny sits in with on that track.


I know it's been posted before, but Metheny explains the story behind the rumours of him & the Dan uniting for a tour or even studio recordings in the '80s.

Anyone here who has the lineup info on this particular band? Dates, location etc. would be nice as well.
Fantastic drumming imho.

Date: Mon, May 21, 2012, 05:33:19 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Sign in Pat

And here's Steely Dan with Pat Metheny. A lot of interesting things going on in this version of "Sign In Stranger".


Date: Sun, May 20, 2012, 22:33:45 ET
Posted by: Dave, NJ

I've actually never heard more than a snippet of Were You Blind that Day. Here's the full version.


Date: Sun, May 20, 2012, 19:36:16 ET
Posted by: bikemann17, nj

RIP Robin Gibb

Date: Sun, May 20, 2012, 19:36:06 ET
Posted by: bikemann17, nj

RIP Robin Gibb

Date: Sun, May 20, 2012, 18:25:42 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the quick

Thanks P-G & Doc!

Date: Sat, May 19, 2012, 19:57:00 ET
Posted by: M A,


,,,Sportsman's Tavern...

Date: Sat, May 19, 2012, 14:34:18 ET
Posted by: Shark DeVille, up on the hill

did anyone attend the Bob Dylan tribute/benefit with Donald last night? I'd love to know what everyone played...

here's Donald sitting in on Buckets of Rain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQBwXGS8-WQ


Date: Fri, May 18, 2012, 08:20:47 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, near the Tower

tickets on sale next Saturday May 26 at 10A for the Dukes of September, Sunday August 5, Borgata Atlantic City

Date: Fri, May 18, 2012, 07:55:00 ET
Posted by: Billie Rubin,

Some early Elliott Randall songs from 1970 that demonstrate the influence his playing had on the later Steely Dan recordings...



Date: Fri, May 18, 2012, 07:02:20 ET
Posted by: PETER EVANS, United Kingdom

Can't believe it is thirty five years since riding on the big wheel at Southport and hearing 'I feel Love' on the sound system ! RIP Donna, a great talent. I always mention to anyone that cares to listen, that Jeff B played the guitar solo on Hot Stuff. it often gets rock fans turned on and appreciative of a great soul voice like Donna's. I also recall Walter once mentioning in an interview that he bought 'Dim All The Lights' another great song.

Date: Fri, May 18, 2012, 05:30:51 ET
Posted by: fagenism, Hot Stuff Land

Yet another legend joins the great pagoda of funn.

It is where we are all headed, fellow steelers.

Better make tonight a wonderful thing! (You never know when the fu**er in the brite nitegown strikes!)

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2012, 15:59:13 ET
Posted by: RIP Donna, On the radio

Sad that we lost both her and Farrah to cancer. They ruled the world at the same time. I'm certain Farrah's plight influenced her way of handling her own.

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2012, 15:01:00 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the quick

I agree...Donna Summer had great pipes and she could have gone skank and crack. Instead she became very classy and graceful, the real deal. Really something that she was so discreet about her cancer.

And the obligatory Dan connection. Jeff Baxter's solo on Hot Stuff and, I think, Bad Girls; Michael Omaritan also long associated with Donna's career.

She's with her God now, blessings to her.


Date: Thurs, May 17, 2012, 13:15:55 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

She was a truly gifted singer. Made it look so effortless.
Very sorry to hear this news.

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2012, 12:27:45 ET
Posted by: Sad, e

RIP Donna Summer. DF was a fan.

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2012, 11:20:04 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Michael: I did post the Greg Phillanganes' version of Lazy Nina as well...couldn't find the nice Monkey House version.

I doubt we'll hear Gary Katz 1980s production per se, although overdubbed drums on the computer version might sound like a throwback. The theme though is likely twisted love gone wrong with a lightish, sophisticated touch in the Big City. Post-modern Cole Porter kida thing...which I believe was the way the 2nd solo album was going to go before aborted...and Aliens took over the mothership on Kamakiriad.

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2012, 10:54:46 ET
Posted by: PGE, Promo idea for undecided record company/management


In case of management/record company sitting around wondering and pondering what to do with this new Fagen album to "get it out there".

Seeing that it has been recorded on a budget without the big studio extravaganza, how about if we all pop around to Michael's studio for an online listening party timed with the actual release of the record in question? Hook up some video, a chat and we're ready to go.

Meanwhile, I am sure that Samantha Wimsatt is busy enjoying her complamentary preview/review copy as I type.

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2012, 09:33:49 ET
Posted by: Michael, @Doc Mu

Don't forget these gems.

Lazy Nina

True Companion

I don't think Donald's new album will sound anything like that Diana Ross tune he wrote, but maybe the songwiting will be reminiscent of stuff like Century's End and Big Noise, New York, sans the 80's vibe. Perhaps it will have a different sound than any of his previous works. Who knows?

Argh! I understand that Donald has to go along with whatever marketing scheme Warner conjures, be it good or bad, but it feels like torture just sitting here waiting for info to surface.

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2012, 01:19:17 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Japan US relations for $500 Alex

Theme from ER not St Elsewhere

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2012, 01:11:20 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

I expect the Feign-gun album to be something on this tact, the kind of thing his aborted 2nd album might have been in the 80s...




Mike Post stole the St. Elsewhere theme from that Diana Ross vehicle


Date: Wed, May 16, 2012, 18:29:34 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

....and now back to our program, already in progress.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2012, 18:18:11 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Uh.. Vic. It was me that you slammed and insulted when I speculated that there would be a 40th anniversary tour. It wasn't The Dean.

But hey... if coming on here and acting like a jerk blows your skirt up then what can I say pal. It's your life and if you want to go through it jumping down peoples' throats for no real reason then so be it I guess.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2012, 16:18:33 ET
Posted by: Chris S, nh

IIRC, no one said a 40th anniversary tour was a sure thing but rather considered the possibility.

Now that I think about it, touring next year and calling it the 41st Anniversary Tour is much more Steely Dan-like.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2012, 16:12:48 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

I don't believe I EVER said ANYTHING about a 40th Anniversary Tour. I certainly never asserted it was going to happen. Check your facts, troll.

With that said, I'm not quite sure what that has to do with a troll jumping down the throat of a regular poster for a quick off-topic post--but that's the kind of things trolls do. One might note the troll's reprimand to Nicholas' post also offered ZERO Dan-related content.

In an attempt to avoid that same pitfall, I offer this:

There was a bit of back-and-forth recently about the new Fagen release. fagenism (a regular, identifiable poster) said: "If the rumors are true - Michael is producing, Carlock is replaced by drum machines, the lyrics are poppier et cetera..."

Then an identifiable poster (using the temporary handle "Once Again") responded: "Fagenism: It's not a rumor. Donald said all that back last summer. This is not new news and it's fact."

A douchey response to be sure, but I wonder, did Fagen really say ALL of that last summer? Yes it has been clear from the start that Michael L was producing. But did Fagen say Carlock wasn't on the album and that there would only be drum machines? I know a poster recently said he talked to Carlock and Keith noted he wasn't on the album--but can't find any quote from Fagen about this particular issue.

In addition, I can't recall Fagen saying specifically the lyrics "are poppier". If I recall correctly, I think he said the tone of the album was "lighter" (or something to that effect)--but those are hardly the same thing.

Now, I may be wrong here and I welcome any evidence that supports the assertion Fagen said all of what fagenism said in the past. Even if there is evidence of this, why the shitty response to a regular poster? Why not pick a posting handle and stick with it? Say what you want about Luker Ray, he stands behind all of his posts with his regular handle. Trolls switch handles all the time.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2012, 12:58:20 ET
Posted by: Rup, J

We'll call him Vic Troller.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2012, 12:11:42 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Bark bark

Oh, dear.... Do we sense a little pre-relase tension around here? ;o)

Date: Wed, May 16, 2012, 10:19:56 ET
Posted by: vic,

Yeah Dean...and we are still waiting for the SD 40 anniversary tour this summer that YOU were so positive was going to happen. I guess you'll have to settle for some Donlad Fagen sung Beach Boys songs instead!! Putz!

Date: Wed, May 16, 2012, 07:58:14 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Vic always seems to be in a bad mood. No sense of humor. Loves to slam people for making innocent benign statements.
Some people just have no desire to get along with others.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2012, 22:02:07 ET
Posted by: Artie, F

That post was was as un-dangential as could be. There are no fart jokes here!

Date: Tues, May 15, 2012, 19:08:49 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Nicholas, I really don't think you deserved that. You were honest in your initial post--and a very short post at that.

You are a known regular and I think you deserve a little latitude.

IMO, it was just a douchey response by some troll.

It seems to be troll season around here.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2012, 12:10:35 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

I deserved that.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2012, 11:58:29 ET
Posted by: vic, Lenox, MA

Nicholas Urfe - Go post that crap somewhere else!

Date: Mon, May 14, 2012, 17:18:37 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Okay, this isn't dangential, but PGE is the only Swede (Swedish person?)(Swedish-Swede) that I know how to get in touch with. So, PGE, what say you:


Date: Mon, May 14, 2012, 15:01:57 ET
Posted by: QW, E

Insightful interview with Scott Hull from 2001.


Date: Sun, May 13, 2012, 23:24:36 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, pool of margaritas

I'm still wondering why the Dan didn't play Greenbook, Pixeleen, Gina, and EMG nightly during that 2003 tour and beyond. Post-modern high techie film noir. The back half of the album is as good as anything they've ever done. Just replace Blues Beach and Last Mall with Wetside Story and Cash Only Island and it's a lively opus.

Yeah, I know it's that smoky sunday Jurassic Dan stuff to placate the balding and stoned...

Date: Sun, May 13, 2012, 09:24:15 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, Jake & Elway St.

RIP Donald "Duck" Dunn

Date: Fri, May 11, 2012, 14:01:41 ET
Posted by: bob, denver

DYLNFAN - You really think that Lurker Ray's word is golden? It's all guess work, dawg! The guy knows nothing!

Date: Fri, May 11, 2012, 13:30:07 ET
Posted by: L, B

Nice picture of the toast I had this morning.

Date: Fri, May 11, 2012, 11:59:35 ET
Posted by: Once, Again

Fagenism: It's not a rumor. Donald said all that back last summer. This is not new news and it's fact.


Date: Fri, May 11, 2012, 11:57:32 ET
Posted by: rag,

can you imagine if don and walt came up with the title face book, instead of green book circa 2002/2003. Hell, maybe face book was on the short list

Date: Fri, May 11, 2012, 10:32:13 ET

There is one person and one person only who I trust to have the inside scoop: Lurker Ray when will we see the Donald's new disc????

Date: Fri, May 11, 2012, 08:03:28 ET
Posted by: Michael,

I'm not concerned in the least with Donald's ability to write great lyrics. Like everyone else, I'm extremely anxious for new details to surface. What's the album called? How many tracks are there? What are the song titles and duration? Is it a concept album or something else? What do the songs sound like (soundclips)? Who performed on it? Etc.

I haven't been this excited about a new album release in years...

Date: Fri, May 11, 2012, 07:30:47 ET
Posted by: fagenism, Fine & dandy.

If the rumors are true - Michael is producing, Carlock is replaced by drum machines, the lyrics are poppier et cetera - I say BRING IT ON! One of the things I love about the Dan/Don catalogue is the fact that the sound has always been evolving. Kama sounded nothing like The Nightfly, while EMG was a huge departure from 2vN. I say we should be thankful if The Maestro is going to bless us with yet another stylistic departure.

Spinnin' Green Book and Negative Girl back to back on a fine day such as - say - today, is not recommended for steelers with high blood pressure. Side effects include - but are not limited to - sudden onset euphoria.

Date: Thurs, May 10, 2012, 17:23:53 ET
Posted by: RP, US

Just discovered my absolute favorite live recording of Bodhisattva this week.. Irvine Meadows 09/17/1994. Georg Wadenius on lead guitar is amazing on this track, starting at around 1:24 throughout the rest. This is the fastest, tightest, and clearest soundboard version of this tune I have ever heard. Try it and see..

Date: Wed, May 09, 2012, 23:29:32 ET
Posted by: bob, denver

Troll my ass! Fagen has been a Dyan freak since he was a kid. Remember! He once applied to play in Dylan's band as a sideman. Brian Sweet said it, I didn't.

Date: Wed, May 09, 2012, 22:48:34 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy


Date: Wed, May 09, 2012, 17:39:43 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Gilligan, what would I do?

I thought I was pretty clear about that:

"...pony up the $20 or $40 to simply see the show (sounds like a good one, actually) and hope for the bonus of Don playing Black Friday (or any other song of his choosing)."

Nobody has to pay $100 and I am fairly certain there will be more music played than Black Friday.

Simple, no?

OK, no more feeding this particular troll. I promise.

Date: Wed, May 09, 2012, 16:16:54 ET
Posted by: PGE, Yep, it's another cover!

Warren Haynes (Allman Brothers etc) Band released a live album a couple of weeks ago titled Live At The Moody Theater. Here's a 12 minute cover of Pretzel Logic


Date: Wed, May 09, 2012, 14:25:44 ET
Posted by: moe., Larry's House of Cheese

More like a folk hero.

Date: Wed, May 09, 2012, 14:05:59 ET
Posted by: Vladimir, in Minsk

Yes, in no way.

Date: Wed, May 09, 2012, 13:12:18 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando

With DF playing so much in recent years with Levon Helm, now playing a birthday gig for Bob Dylan, I've got a question for the Dan community:

Is Donald Fagen, in your view, in any way a folk musician?

I'll hang up and listen.

Date: Wed, May 09, 2012, 12:42:06 ET
Posted by: the pervfessor, in bed with mary-ann

I'd pay a c-note just to possibly mingle with Don and the others. Of course I would piss him off by requesting Wu :)

Date: Wed, May 09, 2012, 12:12:22 ET
Posted by: Vladimir, in Minsk

Hoo boy the Bob Denver puts us in our places here in the blue. Vladimir was almost missed that post because for going to web places of bands I am not liking and making funny of the band and putting downs the fans. Thank you Bob Denver, I am a loser and I am knowing it.

Vadimir has been hard at studying the English. I hope you can tells.

Date: Wed, May 09, 2012, 11:50:50 ET
Posted by: bob, denver

Dean: I wasn't talking about "part of the community". I was talking about you dummies!

Date: Tues, May 08, 2012, 18:35:53 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Well, Gilligan I'm not sure who would actually spend $100 only to hear Black Friday. But I imagine many who are part of the community and are involved with Woodstock Day School would gladly pay that amount to support the school and attend what looks to be quite an interesting and eclectic musical event.

I imagine there are many, many more who might pony up the $20 or $40 to simply see the show (sounds like a good one, actually) and hope for the bonus of Don playing Black Friday (or any other song of his choosing).

Someone has hip as Maynard G. Krebs should understand that.

Date: Tues, May 08, 2012, 10:45:08 ET
Posted by: bob, denver

Thanks XX! Who wants to spend $100 to see DF play Black Friday?

Date: Tues, May 08, 2012, 08:28:13 ET
Posted by: XX, R

Fagen to play 3rd Annual Woodstock Day School Soundout - Bob Dylan Birthday Celebration


Date: Mon, May 07, 2012, 17:25:27 ET
Posted by: BillfromPgh,

I immediately thought of Wet Side Story when reading this piece:


>Many of our social interactions have been reduced to the barebones transfer of information via various online media: text messages, emails, shared videos and pictures, status updates, and, uh, pokes... For people who have been raised on text-based interactions, just speaking on the telephone can be high bandwidth to the point of anxiety.

Date: Mon, May 07, 2012, 16:27:27 ET
Posted by: Chris , nh

Re: shaker track:

My guess is Jack of Speed

Date: Mon, May 07, 2012, 16:07:17 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Joe Walsh does indeed liven up an Eagles concert and keep the neighbors from listening. Eagles concerts are highly scripted, though, due to all of the recorded music they use - when I saw them two years ago in Dallas, I thought that even some of Joe Walsh's high vocals were recorded. And the hat-cam routine has been done and overdone, IMO. That said, I'll take him however I can get him.

Date: Mon, May 07, 2012, 13:34:55 ET
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Date: Mon, May 07, 2012, 13:19:36 ET
Posted by: T.O. Danfan, summer shows

So far got excellent seats for Dukes, Bruce, and John Fogerty. I try and see the Dan(or any derivative of)and Bruce whenever they are on the road. Really looking forward to Fogerty....haven't seen him live since 1970!

Jim Taylor....you are so right about another of my faves Joe Walsh...I've seen him at least 10 times....with James Gang, solo, and the Eagles. Saw the original Hotel Cal tour and I gotta say it was a bit of snore(a girlfriend sing-along really) until Joe got the joint jumpin' with Walk Away and Rocky Mtn Way. Now that I think back on it....James Gang was actually on the bill with Fogerty and CCR at that 1970 New Years Eve Winter Pop show at Maple Leaf Gardens.
Oh yeah, I'm late 50's too and it's still all about the herb! ;)


Date: Mon, May 07, 2012, 12:27:59 ET
Posted by: Nick, N

There should be a thought bubble contest for that picture.

Date: Mon, May 07, 2012, 11:37:15 ET
Posted by: PGE, photographic evidence


One photo, three men; Master Engineer Scott Hull, Donald Fagen and Michael Leonhart. Courtesy of the www.masterdisk.com/ homepage.

Date: Mon, May 07, 2012, 09:47:22 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

For what it's worth, my guess to which song on 2vn is the one being discussed is this: the title cut, Two Against Nature. I think it is a bit less "present" than it could be and it seems to me small adjustments could really make a big difference in several areas of this tune. Maybe that's why the song is so great live--it seems "ultra present" live. But that is IMO, of course.

Date: Mon, May 07, 2012, 07:38:06 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY


My guess as to which song they're talking about... maybe Janie Runaway? The shaker that shows up after the last stanza is really subtle, it's a very sparse song with a darker sound from everything, including the drums. Not a lot of upper mids or treble on anything when compared to Jack of Speed, for example, which sounds too bright and hyped in my opinion.

Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 23:35:28 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Who am I seeing in concert this year?- Eagles yesterday... Foo Fighters today. Both at the New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival. I don't know what the Eagles would do without Joe Walsh. He's a force of nature, and the Foo Fighters were just lots of fun... major energy levels from band and crowd.. I was easily the oldest person (late 50's)in my area today. Yesterdays crowd was drinking... Todays crowd was all about the herb. ZZ Top will be here in June and the Dukes at Gulf Shores in July.

Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 19:58:33 ET
Posted by: answer,

All those songs begin with the name of the song.

Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 19:30:31 ET
Posted by: One more, ...

Upon closer inspection, Do You Remember The Name doesn't qualify. I should have double checked.

Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 19:23:20 ET
Posted by: Another , Hint

Sing the first line of each song to yourself and see if anything rings a bell.

Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 18:55:28 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Re: Lyrics quiz

Ken, so far I haven't a clue. It's 00:55 over here, so I'll have to sleep on it I think. It might help. Anyway, don't rush the answer... :o)

Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 18:28:18 ET
Posted by: Hint, For Jazz

Here's the rest of the songs that have this lyrical trait.

Rose Darling
Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More
Do You Remember The Name
Somebody's Saturday Night

Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 17:31:49 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, @ Ken, 890

Oh, and I forgot... Ken, 890: Hint?

Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 17:30:18 ET
Posted by: Michael, Minor correction


Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 17:29:15 ET
Posted by: Michael,

First time I recall listening to it.

Come Back Baby is probably my favorite of their pre-CBAT material. I especially love the way Don insters that "My old man never told me how" lyric section at the tail-end of the chorus with almost surgical precision.

Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 17:26:55 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, tryin' not to lose that beat

Rare in a way, but still not. It was released on the soundtrack album from "You got to walk it..." (1971)


Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 17:06:41 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Wow, talk about rare. Pre-CBAT, huh? This stuff sounds downright pedestrian in comparison to their albums. Understandable given that they were just getting started, plus coming off what must've been a nauseating experience with Jay & The Americans.

Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 15:43:20 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Roll back the meaning

Nice find Michael!

Also, "Morcaiden" has put this one up there:


Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 15:19:04 ET
Posted by: Michael, While we're waiting for Don's new one

I found these 8-bit SD renditions rather accurate and wonderfully amusing! Speaking as a longtime video gamer, both the 8 and 16-bit VG eras were the best.

King of the World

Pretzel Logic

Do It Again

Throw Back The Little Ones

Jack of Speed

Gaslighting Abbie

Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 12:12:59 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Whole lotta shakin' goin' on

Hutch & Mel,

Thanks for the recording/mastering links. Great read. I love that stuff.

Regarding which song on 2vN that needed a bit more brightness, it's really hard to say. Different playback equipment will prioritize different frequencies, and none of us has the exact same setup that they used for playback/monitoring during the mastering process (I guess?). We're absolutely talking about very subtle nuances here anyway. The sound of the album is very even, of course. After all it's Steely Dan.
My wild guess would be "Jack Of Speed", partly because it sounds like it does on my playback equipment, and partly because there's actually a shaker or two in the mix.

Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 11:19:23 ET
Posted by: Ken, 890

Listening to SD in the car, I noticed a certain lyrical "quality" to Charlie Freak and was trying to think of what other SD songs have this. I found three other SD, as well as two Becker and one Fagen solo. What is this quality and what are the other songs that have it?

I only considered official releases. Nothing pre-CBAT, etc.

Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 10:20:49 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Jon Herington explains his guitar rig. From the guitars to the pedals to the amps and even down to the pick he uses.


Date: Sun, May 06, 2012, 09:14:02 ET
Posted by: Mel, I


Any idea what the song in question is?

Date: Sat, May 05, 2012, 20:03:41 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Recently revisited this article from 2006 about the recording and mixing for Morph. Fascinating the way DF and Elliot Sheiner worked together. Lots of insight in this piece.
"Don't touch the faders Donald".


Date: Sat, May 05, 2012, 15:42:14 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

From my perspective Toast of Freedom is far better than most of those We are the World-type fundraising vehicles. The recording is organic and crisp with good instrument separation. Like Live from Darryl's House on Vitamins. Neil Finn's The Sun Came Out as an al album did a nice job with the indie flavor.



My guess is that Donald and Michael Leonhart recorded super-demos, then had a live "band" of sorts play over the demos. Integrated what sounded good. Re-dub the final vocals over the top. Master and release.

Date: Sat, May 05, 2012, 15:07:10 ET
Posted by: beat boxing,

Beat-boxing, as in mouth percussion (as in spitting rhythmically into a microphone), was invented by Walter, Donald, and Roger? Cool.

Most of these comments are just in fun, using the time while waiting for the new one to lament that "those days are gone forever, over a long time ago". What could be more Steely-related than that?

No harm intended.

Date: Sat, May 05, 2012, 14:09:56 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

I think people are making too big of a deal out of Donald focusing on programming and so forth on his upcoming album. In doing so, the speculation is, I suspect, beyond the realities of some things we already have heard. I'm expecting it will be a natural progression of what we've heard from Donald in the likes of "Shanghai Confidential" or his b-side-released demos of "Big Noise, New York" and "Trans-Island Skyway." A bit of I.G.Y. That's all. When people make comments like "But man oh man I hope there is no beat-boxing on it"...well, all I can do is shake my head. Remember, Walter and Donald and Roger and company invented this sorta stuff.

Date: Sat, May 05, 2012, 13:39:06 ET
Posted by: further development,

Maybe Donald can use Yamaha's Vocaloid software with Fagen voice samples, and that way the computer can sing all the parts directly from the lyric doc files.

Well, no matter what it is, it's incredibly exciting to be getting a new release soon.

But man oh man I hope there is no beat-boxing on it...

Date: Sat, May 05, 2012, 11:58:33 ET
Posted by: enimen, The Five Boroughs

Here's what the Beasties did...

Pulled together American music from every neighborhood, sneakily layered in a profoundly sophisticated cultural sensibility tuned into both the lowest low and highest haute, and dressed it in a stupid garment that drew in the crowds but winked at the hipsters who got the joke.

Sound like anyone else you guys--the people of the Blue--are familiar with?


Date: Sat, May 05, 2012, 09:00:15 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

OK, I finally watched the full Toast to Freedom video. The song itself is a bit hokey--but that's par for the course for this sort of thing. I thought it was incredible well done, though. There really were some great voices* and they melded very well together.

It would have been nice for Donald to contribute some vocals.

Oh, and I was a bit disappointed at the complete absence of toast in the video.

*Kris Kristofferson also sang.

Date: Sat, May 05, 2012, 08:22:43 ET
Posted by: Michael, *correction*

Organic sound vs *CPU* generated

Date: Sat, May 05, 2012, 08:22:04 ET
Posted by: Michael, Re: Organic sound vs CU generated

There is a certain special quality which can only come with a live performance. Even so, that doesn't mean that a smart programmer/editor can't create a close fascimile. Sure, it would've been great if Don had a full band backing him up but, thinking more into it, maybe the lack of performers will yield more interesting results, more experimentation. Don's songwriting is still front and center. Besides, it's ridiculous to criticize an album we've yet to hear.

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 21:58:58 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

The latest edition of the Dandom Digest was just mailed a few minutes ago. This one covered from from April 1-30, 2012. (The previous Dandom Digest was dated March 10-31, 2012.) I'm a little behind getting these out, but I will catch up with another Digest covering May 1 to May 5, 6 or 7. Thanks for your patience.

If you are a subscriber, you should see it in your email box in the next couple of hours. If you don't receive it, check your spam filters first; then, if it's not there, please email me.

As I regularly remind subscribers, some people have problems with delivery of the Dandom Digest, usually because of their spam filters, firewalls, etc. That's why this sort of notice is posted here.

The following are the subject headlines of the Dandom Digest for April 1-30, 2012.


- Condolences to Levon Helm's Loved Ones
- Levon Helm & Friends performance at PBS
- New Fagen Album Mastered
- Re: New Fagen Album Mastered: Scott Hull | Masterdisk
- Over 40 Dukes Dates and Counting
- Fagen on Jay Collins' Album
- Looking back at Morph
- Great Second Arrangement story
- Monkey House To Play First Manhattan Show 7/26, Bitter End
- Re (2): The Darcy's cover Aja
- Reely Dan' concert @ Fitzgerald's Nightclub; Berwyn, IL.; 21 April 2012.


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Thanks for your support through the years, especially Pete and Shari and Gus and remembering Mark and Bill.


Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 18:09:25 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, not another Larry

I was just about to apologize for yesterday's Kirshwasser, but after reading the "Another Park" thing after your handle I think we're even.

Synth drum my ass, btw. :D

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 17:53:27 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Another Park


Great Levon song. Even if he didn't write it, I'm sure he understood he was on the home stretch (Derby weekend appropriate, I think). I especially love the synth drums. :#)

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 17:52:14 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, spinning Electric Dirt right now!

Levon owned every song he sung. ;o) Always sounded like he wrote them all!

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 16:27:51 ET
Posted by: oh no,

I guess the time for private comments is of the past, just like real drums...

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 16:09:45 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Re: Levon Helm

Billie Rubin,

I love Levon Helm's voice, drumming and all his other fantastic musical capabilities, and think his departure is as sad as can get.

But he did not write "When I Go Away".
Producer and multi-instrumentalist Larry Campbell did.

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 15:59:54 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, (no sleep til) Brooklyn

RIP Beastie Boy Adam "MCA" Yauch.
47 is just too damn young.

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 15:39:06 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick

Marty, very true about respecting Steely Dan and associates--and thank you for bringing that to our attention. (Marty: Please contact me via email privately, if you might--hoop AT dandom DOT com )

But, if I may suggest, an exception in this case since we pretty much already heard this info. What (little) I've seen in interviews with Michael and Donald since this project began is that most all of the instrumentation on this album is from keys, synths, computers and other techie stuff. My impression all along from those interviews is that the album will be like 85% performed by Donald and Michael. For months, I've been expecting programmed drums and percussion. In one interview, discussed here sometime back, my understanding (or speculation?) was that they had a much tighter budget for this one.

This is not unusual. Consider that Elton John's next one is just him, a bassist and a drummer with a couple of tracks having a guest guitarist or that cello duo. Recorded in three days live. Others are doing the same. The sale of new albums rarely support big budgets any more.

So I don't think we're hearing anything that we haven't already expected about the drums. I'm imagining this albums will be in the vein of Shaghai Confidential or DF's demo of Big Noise, New York.

At any rate, my apologies to Keith Carlock if he or his associates are offended. I'll be glad to remove any comments at once in respectful deference if so requested. But in case, I don't think it's new news.

Best wishes,


Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 15:37:32 ET
Posted by: Another, Scurvy Brother

@ Askin,

As much as I'll miss Carlock on this set, I'm happy to get psyched when a producer puts down some big drum fills. I hope Leonhart brings some new layers to Don's sound. Can't wait to hear it.

And, to answer your Q, plz enjoy --

Nice break by DJ Shadow at 1:30

Big wash and dope transition by Araab Musik at 6:00 (Traditionalists out there will HOWL over this guy--put your pitchforks away.)

This whole song by Cut Chemist is worth a listen.

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 15:02:03 ET
Posted by: Marty, Na

When an insider like Carlock courteously answers a fan's inquiry, he's probably not expecting it to be reported on gossip central. Ya think?

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 14:47:06 ET
Posted by: oh no,

Also, when reading interviews about old Steely sessions, a player would say "I knew so and so would be on the date, so it would be good" or Marotta says (paraphrased) "I didn't know who Steely Dan was, but when Donald's voice came through the headphones, I knew it was going to be a special session". Or the story about how Porcaro, Rainey, and the rest of the rhythm section stayed all night to get a track after Donald and Walter went home in defeat - that's the stuff that informs the recordings - talented people interacting and making amazing decisions under various stresses.

In those days the players were going from session to session and were super confident in their abilities. They were just doing their job with the swagger of triple scale esteem. After the Steely session they were on to other things and were the center of their own musical worlds.

Now Steely Dan is legendary, so I fear no one comes in with swagger because it's such an honor to be invited to play at all. Arrogance was a big part of the attitude in the old recordings, arrogance of Donald and Walter as well as the hot-shot players they brought in. Arrogance is no longer part of the recipe.

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 14:25:09 ET
Posted by: oh no,

It's all true that the technology can imitate any result you're after. Virtual drums (or any instruments) range from the most meticulously recorded single drum hits (like Wendel used) to recorded short phrases that can be looped, plus tasty fills, to performances by real drummers where the actual sounds are removed leaving only the MIDI control data that you can use to get a famous groove on recordings of your kitchen pans. All amazing, and very cool when used by the right guys.

My beef is that neither Michael nor Donald are drummers. They are both fantastic musicians, but whatever they come up with for a drum track, as perfect as it might be, is not a real-time reaction to hearing a track in real time. Even if they were to trigger a keyboard in real-time using Keith Carlock samples, it's basically a risk free endeavor. Maybe they're asking a real drummer for help with programming. Doesn't matter.

I love the old recordings because they were an achievement by people in a room (not always together at the same time of course) reacting to great music. Chuck Rainey throws in a one note fill, Steve Gadd clicks his sticks, Bodhisattva speeds up, Keltner brings in a garbage can lid, Donald grunts during Haitian Divorce - these sorts of personality quirks are what I relish when I hear the songs. I know who the guys are. I can find other recordings they're on and compare how they reacted with Steely Dan versus another situation.

If Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant could score 100 points every game it would be boring. Their achievement is in excelling to various degrees in a particular environment. Optimizing a moment in time is also what makes great music, not perfecting a moment in time at your leisure.

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 12:11:49 ET
Posted by: Askin, pp

If you "watch" songs on youtube, you'll see comments like "great drum fill at 2:27!" and it's Jeff Porcaro or some other live drummer to whom they refer. I can perhaps understand using a machine for basic drum tracks, but how do get it to produce nuances that provoke such comments?

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 11:27:52 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Jazzassasin - great post about programmed drums. Those are my thoughts exactly, right down to the inner conflict between the purist and realist in me ...

6 months ago a band I play with booked a session at a top of the line pro studio in Boston. We had a full day to record 6 tracks with the understanding that we'd mix and do overdubs at a cheaper spot. In the pro studio I recorded as much Hammond B-3 going through the meticulously maintained studio Leslie speaker as I could. It sounded amazing.

Last month, it's my turn to come into the cheaper studio for overdubs. This place is actually in a guy's basement, with no gear to speak of. I've had time to listen to the mixes and I want to add some organ to a couple tracks. Instead of a gigantic Hammond organ and Leslie speaker with a bunch of moving parts and expensive microphones to accurately record the sound, I had my 15 pound Nord Electro 3.

A month later, I'm going over the final mixes, and I can't tell what was the real organ and what was the Nord. I mean, I know which is which because I played it, but there's almost no difference in the sound and I'd challenge anyone to tell the difference in a blindfold test.

The purist in me says that nothing beats the real thing when it comes to the Hammond organ; that's why studios invest in maintaining such temperamental machines that are increasingly hard to come by. But the fact that I can almost PERFECTLY duplicate the sound of an organ and speaker combo that costs at least 10 grand and weighs a billion pounds with a lightweight keyboard I can throw in my subcompact and record in the most low-rent home studio with nothing more than 2 patch cables is amazing. The organ required an engineer and a couple interns to set up and get going; the Nord required a two prong outlet and me to push a button.

I bring this up to show one of example of why synth instruments are used. You're no longer getting the cheesy sound of the electric piano on NY Rock and Soul Revue. You're not sacrificing quality, but you are saving a lot of time and a lot of money. Analog gear is never going away, but for guys like me who will never make a cent from recording, it's nice to know I can get nearly the exact same sound at a fraction of the cost. And for guys like Fagen and Leonheart, they can spend all the time they want perfecting drum tracks without studio time and a musician to pay.

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 07:13:07 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, on Sir Duke


"I think Duke and Ray were more interested in the song structure than solos and highlighting any individual musician."

A bit ashamed to say I don't have the slightest idea about to what extent Ray Charles was involved with orchestral arrangements and the making of charts for soloists and band members in general. But one thing seems pretty obvious; he was the undisputed star in his own shows, and everything evolved around his vocal performance and his piano/organ playing.

Duke Ellington was in some ways his absolute counterpart. He was never a virtuoso soloist himself, and his main "instrument" was the orchestra as such. He constantly made new arrangements for his songs and recorded a lot of them multiple times with different soloists and band constellations.
But besides being a true master of composition, orchestration and arrangements, he was really very into squeezing the last drop out of every musician/soloist he had available at any given time. The arrangements were always tailor made to give his sidemen room to really stretch out, and he always took very much advantage of their different, often very personal and always recognizable musical voices. Many of them were considered stars in their own respect, and an important part of an Ellington concert was the unbelievable solos from different band members.
If a musician left the orchestra and was replaced by another, Duke always wrote new arrangements for several songs to ensure that the newcomer's special talents were fully exploited. He was also a showman, and the more original the style of a soloist was, the more Ellington loved it. His arrangements were indeed strict, and showed his mastery of that artform in every detail. But in the parts of the songs where the charts said "trumpet solo" (or any instrument solo), he expected his musicians to give 200% everytime and show exactly why they were hired to do the job. And they were allowed to bring in a lot of their own - it was a part of the contract, so to speak. Duke knew their styles and what they were capable of, and an important part of his own job was to bring those very personal voices together in a working unity. Like a well oiled machine built entirely from custom made parts.
So I think, for the Duke it was never a choice between preserving the whole and the highlighting of individual musicians, it was always both.



You LOVE Metheny's synth guitar. Further denial will not do you any good. Come out of the closet and over to my place, and we'll talk about it over some lemon haze.

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 05:25:51 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -

I am all for music tech as long as it is not Pat Metheny's synth guitar.

Date: Fri, May 04, 2012, 05:12:50 ET
Posted by: fagenism, -

I am all for music tech as long as it is not Pat Metheny's synth guitar.

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 22:36:27 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Don't get me wrong. I only intend to use "Keith in a box" for demos, no matter how good it sounds, not when I record for keeps.I like the interplay of ideas that a good drummer brings to a session. I guess it comes down to control. I think that Donald wants to have complete control of how the final product sounds. That may seem like a self evident statement, but when you bring in another muscician, you are relinquishing some control over how the final product sounds. There is no way around it.

If what you are going for is the totality of the sound, then you control as many elements as possible. If, as has been stated in interviews by D&W before, they were looking for the best soloists to come in and play on certain songs, then they were relinquishing a certain amount of control. Of course, there was always a certain amount of what they did on "Peg": to keep bringing in folks until they hear something, but at the end of the day, they are still at the mercy of the soloist/musician who is interpreting their musical idea. The risk is loss of control, the reward is Larry Carlton on KC.

I hope like some who have posted here that it is not economics that drives that decision. Remember, however, that Frank Zappa did a large amount of his work on a synclavier for economic reasons alone. It just didn't make sense to bring in Steve Vai and the Los Angeles Philharmonic for 2 weeks to record an album.

BTW, this is a very interesting clip of Frank Zappa working on the Synclavier: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=714_1181872966.

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 19:53:33 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. Time To Leave!

In my previous drunken ramble I left out Duke Ellington--the sentence should read "...I have always considered The Dan more akin to Duke Ellington than to any rock band--Ray Charles excepted perhaps."

Not that Ray is a rock band, of course.


Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 18:04:49 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!


"But I guess not even nostalgia is what it used to be."

I just spit out some of my drink and I'm pissed because it was a REALLY good drink. But there is a flip side to your comment, because the older I get the better I was.

And Oh No, I applaud your well constructed/reasoned explanation and like the Jazzy one, I agree on some levels. Not totally, mind you as I find the drumming and guitar playing on some of the more recent releases exceptional (Carlock doesn't slay on Circus Money (album)?) But it's obvious the boys' emphasis is no longer on memorable solos (played by their pick of crack musicians) but more on the construction of the songs and exceptional ensemble playing. (I hope some of this actually makes sense as I misspelled the last three words from the last sentence TWICE --and "misspelled" in this one. I must be thinker than I drunk.)

I might be in the minority around here, but the songs may have improved in some ways through the years IMO--unless you like pop hooks of course. And, as I have always considered The Dan more akin to than to any rock band--Ray Charles excepted perhaps. I think Duke and Ray were more interested in the song structure than solos and highlighting any individual musician.

It's interesting--well to me, when I'm drunk--to ponder life's great questions (OK I'm a bit stoned, too) such as: Would Steely Dan even be on the map if it wasn't for their more pop-radio hits of their early years? That they are on that map, in the future (several generations away) how will the recent work compare with Dan Pt.1? I'm inclined to believe it has an even-money chance to more favorably viewed.

But really what the hell do I know. I now need to replace the drink Jazzassin spilled--and start thinking on different trivial "great questions" unrelated to Steely Dan.

Anyway, I enjoy the conversation at this level.

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 16:30:26 ET
Posted by: Ben , Indy

More info about Amnesty album:


Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 16:26:08 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, bang away on them drums please

oh no,

The purist in me is your friend! The purist also says music technology after 1980 has done no good for music. Nothing. Nada.

But I guess not even nostalgia is what it used to be.

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 16:07:05 ET
Posted by: oh no,

Well of course I remember Wendel and am very aware of all the Steely drum programming this century and of the advances in drum programming and techniques and tools. Amazing results can be had for sure.

My cry is simply for those days of risk and excitement that peaked with Scam and Aja and began diminishing with Gaucho. The best programming could not recreate the feel of Gadd, Purdie, Marotta, etc., because it was the combination of their skill, their limitations, their choice of drums and cymbals, their mood on the day of recording, their reaction to the new music, their positive and negative reactions to the other players on the date, that make the drum tracks still famous after all these years. Nobody talks about the drum tracks on 21st century Dan. Nobody will talk about the drums on the new one. A computer cannot hear and emotionally react to a track or another musician.

I know Donald will do what Donald will do. I know it's painful to get those tracks. Just listen to the Gaucho outtakes to the little blurps by Jeff Porcaro to imagine Donald's stress of trying to get through a complete take. Maybe the memory is still painful to him.

Just sad that Donald, who knows or could have any drummer on the planet come in for a session, does not mind having the credit "drums created on an Apple iPad" on his album. Sad that 21st century Dan drummers have been so underutilized. Ricky Lawson, Keith Carlock, Sonny Emory, Leroy Clouden could add so much personality to a track, but didn't for some reason. Just my opinion, of course. I can't defend the drum or guitar solo tracks on the recent recordings the same way others here can. Brilliant songs should have brilliant tracks even if they're not perfect. Classic and timeless is what I want.

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 15:08:41 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, short reply. For once.

Dean, we're in sync as usual.
Only you're able to say what I say with a fraction of words. ;o)

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 14:59:24 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach


Didn't see your post before my last comment. Well said, as always.

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 14:57:08 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

oh no,

Yoko, is that you?

Actually Don and Walt have been "Photoshopping" drums virtually their entire careers. Even great live drummers' work has been fiddled with on recordings. Someone (I think it was Rick Marotta but I might mistaken) suggested performances from several drummers were sometimes cut and pasted together to get the sound Don and Salt wanted.

Also, remember WENDEL?

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 14:55:59 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, more drum talk

Deep inside of me there's a music recording purist who thinks all ways of making a drum track for a song is junk except for the classic way; make sure the right drum kit is properly set up and tuned, place handpicked industry standard mics where they should be, have the drummer do his thing as many times as necessary to get a perfect take, maybe route the signals through some reverb device and very modest compressing. Done.
Ideally the whole band should play the song together, live in the studio, and they should rehearse enough in advance to actually be able to record great, timeless music in a couple of takes.

It's rarely done this way anymore, except for acoustic jazz combos, I think. Don & Walt had Roger Nichols build them a programmable drum sequenser in the late '70s for the Gaucho sessions.
For many years it's been business as usual to emulate or manipulate the drums in recording studios. It may be a drummer in there somewhere, but for complex, very "produced" music like Steely Dan's, it's normal to move the different elements of the drum tracks around, copy/paste the perfectly executed parts into the relevant points on the recording software timeline, subsequently exchange the actual sound of a given recorded drum for another sound from a huge sound library, and process the whole bit rather hard with compressors and so on.
Or you just program the whole drum track from scratch.

Those tricks has been performed to varying degrees on all albums by the Dan, Donald Fagen and Walter Becker ever since Gaucho, at least.

The old purist in me is crying of course, when I read that there will not be any "genuine" drums on Donald's new one, but I'm trying to comfort him by telling the simple truth:
Today's drum software and studio technology is so sophisticated it's fully possible to make it sound so alive and kicking and "wood-like" you wouldn't have a snowball's chance to distinguish between "real" and "not real" in a blindfold test. Not you, not me, and probably not many others. And the organic, analog sound ideal, with its minor noises and imperfections, was never Donald's ideal anyway, as far as I can conclude from everything he has done in the past.

The question is; is he and Michael Leonhart capable of intuitively making the right descisions for the drum tracks? The sound of it is no problem. If they want it to sound like a drummer, it will sound like a drummer. I assume that a master drummer like Keith, Vinnie or Ricky could inject some unique ideas into the whole (if allowed), but if the drums will have roughly the same function on the new album as they've had on say everything Donald has done after Gaucho, Steely Dan albums included, I see no reason to worry. I think today it's possible to emulate drums in that style if you're good at it and spend some time on the task. To point at the drum sounds of Whack and Kama (which drum sounds I am not an unconditional fan of) is hardly relevant imho. Things have happened since then.

The chance is, of course that the new one will include tracks where they add percussive elements not meant to sound like parts of a traditional drum kit at all. Maybe we will hear loops and samples of an alien nature, maybe ambient soundscapes, maybe more of those synthetic handclaps from 2vN's title track. Or maybe what Dean said is the final word; that Fagen has always sounded like Fagen (and more than a little Dan-esque).
Anyway, it's 2012, and if Donald wants the drums to sound natural, they will.
(Stop whining inside my head, old purist fart! They will, I say!!) ;o)

If Donald Fagen still knows how to make fantastic songs, I'm convinced he's also still able to dress them up in proper clothing.
As long as the choice not to use "real" drums is part of a playful, creative process, that is, and not just a way of saving the precious money otherwise spent on expensive studio time to get perfect drum tracks.

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 13:07:41 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Oh No - programmed drums sound a hell of a lot better now than they did in 1994. Kama has a lot of programmed drums too; while they still show their age, they sound better than the drums on 11TOW...

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 12:05:59 ET
Posted by: oh no,

Please Donald NO Photoshopped drums!!!!!

Jeez, you were working with Levon Helms. You're in the same town as Shawn Pelton and Yuval Gabay. Billy Martin lives upstate a bit. Keith has some new Gretsch drums.

Remember how "11 Tracks of Whack" had a demo feel?

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 12:00:45 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando


Re your question about shows that other Danfans are going to, my current set lineup is the Dukes in St. Augustine end of July and Eddie Vedder here in Orlando in November (rescheduled).

Chris Cornell is a possibility. As is Earth Wind & Fire in the summer.

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 10:47:16 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Yeah, well, seeing as nobody has heard it outside of those in Don's close-knit circle and details are sparse, all we can do is hazard a guess. Fortunately the album itself is finished and it won't be long before more concrete info comes our way. It really is an enigma at this point. If Keith really didn't participate, we may surmise that it will have a unique sound to it, at least rhythmically. We also know that the album was pretty much finished since well before SD began touring last year but wasn't mixed/mastered, so it had been sitting on the shelf, so to speak, for about a year. Granted that doesn't really speak to the quality nor details -- it's just another small tidbit of info. Oh, another thing: I recall reading about Don renting time in a NY studio to lay down some tracks, so we know the album wasn't done entirely at Michael Leonhart's home studio.

Outside of all that's been discussed, we'll just have to be patient until more details are forthcoming. I'm sure we'll be pleasantly surprised with the finished work. I hope the album does well -- it will probably be one of very select few albums being put out by major labels this year worth actually purchasing. As pertaining to music, these past several years have been rather unexciting, depressing even. A sad state of affairs. But... leave it to Donald to turn that frown upside down.

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 10:39:40 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach


Welcome Back*

Thanks for the info. Makes me a bit sad to hear they are replacing human drumming with electronics, but as has been mentioned the tech has come a long way.

All the "different" elements being discussed: new producer, synth drums, lighter tone, and some others I am forgetting have really ramped up the excitement and speculation around here. Like many of you, I wonder just what this new one will sound like.

But I keep coming back to the reality that all of Fagen's stuff sounds very much like Fagen, and more than a bit Dan-esque. I think, hope and pray that continues on the new one. Honestly I don't expect any dramatic departure from what he know and love--and expect.

That the new one is "not a continuation of the trilogy" has been brought up on a number of occasions. Don had mentioned it himself. But I think that may not really mean all that much. After all, I don't think the trilogy was anything planed. Nor do I think the concept of a trilogy played much of a part in the making of those albums. I don't recall hearing anything about a trilogy after Kamakiriad. The albums are not connected thematically in any way and sound quite different from each other (while at the same time sounding like Fagen and more than a little Dan-esque). I think the idea of the trilogy was a convenient way for Donald to discuss these separate works together and also a great marketing tool to do a boxed set. They are a trilogy only in the sense that the first one was centered around an earlier part of his life, the 2nd more abstract and futuristic musings and the 3rd reflections of a more mature being in the wake of 911. The trilogy represents the timeline--and I think that's about it.

So from what I gather, Don wants to get away from discussing the trilogy stuff as it gained a momentum I don't really think he intended. I'm guessing this one is more eclectic thematically and he doesn't care to discuss how it fits together with the other three works.

Of course I could be wrong.

* your dreams were your ticket out

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 09:26:26 ET
Posted by: ygk, nyc

If I could hazard a guess re: sound of DF's new one, I'd say it may be a cross between ML's "Avramina 7" sound (group of ~11-12 folk) plus the Fagenesque keyboards and vocals (as I do recall hearing of several vocal odub sessions which were happenin).

ML's Minton Quigley was so Beatle-esque, Hotel Music another animal entirely - guessing is, well, just guessing.

Will be exciting to hear whenever it drops...


Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 08:03:08 ET
Posted by: Michael,


Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 08:01:54 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Jazzassin, yes, I'm aware that he's utilized much of those instruments at one time or another. However, not much recently.

I'll bet you Keith has heard the new one by now. You should've at least asked him for his opinion of the work.

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 06:59:15 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Sorry Sebastian, I mispelled your handle!

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2012, 06:57:01 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Sebastion: Drum software has evolved way beyond "Century's End" (which i love and play obsessively). I have some software called "Addictive Drum," which I use for song demos, and it is indistinguishable from a real drummer. It is NOT mechanical. They have figured out how to change velocity and time to give the feel of a human playing drums.Because it WAS a human peformance digitalized. You can program it to play anything you want or use presets.Even with the presets, you can move the beats around and change the velocity and FX as you prefer. I like to call it "Keith Carlock in a box." So Donald could use drum sofware that has any feel he desires.

Date: Wed, May 02, 2012, 22:59:16 ET
Posted by: Ben, Indy

Pollstar.com shows a few more Duke dates than Boz's site:

http://www.pollstar.com/resultsArtist.aspx?ID=237585&SearchBy=donald fagen

I'm curious what other shows DanFans are catching this spring/summer.
Other than 3 nights w/ the Dukes I'm mixing it up with Roger Waters' Wall, Lee "Scratch" Perry, Phish, 311 w/ Slightly Stoopid, and hopefully the All Good Fest, Jackson Browne, and DMB. My dream of a solo tour from Walter Becker will continue...

Date: Wed, May 02, 2012, 22:33:03 ET
Posted by: Ha, Ha

Fagen and Leonhart can :)

Date: Wed, May 02, 2012, 22:13:22 ET
Posted by: Sebastian, New Hampshire

A long time lurker coming out of the woodwork to say that I just got back from saw a fantastic clinic with Keith Carlock tonight in Portsmouth, NH. I asked about the new DF album and he said he is NOT on it and claimed that Fagen and Leonhart programmed the drum parts themselves. Interesting! Is this a return to the mid-period of Shanghai Confidential and Century's End-type tracks? Can anybody else confirm this?

Date: Wed, May 02, 2012, 17:56:42 ET
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Date: Wed, May 02, 2012, 14:54:11 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, patient as a three year old ADHD kid

Chris, I believe that's an essential question; what will Mr. Leonhart bring into the stew?
This is one of the things I'm most curious about regarding the new one, besides of course everything else I can imagine to speculate over regarding any new material from that corner. Which is a whole lot.

But seriously, Michael Leonhart's solo albums is so another generation. Even his purest jazz album "Slow", which also offers massive contributions from his guitar buddy Jon Herington, is easily recognized as a record by a much younger artist than i.e. Donald Fagen.
His other albums shouts for themselves. Anyone who has given those even a brief listen will agree that it's not much even vaguely dangently about them, musically. They're from a different musical universe, imho.

A few months ago someone suggested here that Donald should maybe start to do the Santana thing. "Bringing talented younger artists to our attention", it's called officially ... "Desperately trying to inflate a punctured balloon" is my unofficial term.
And I also remember myself commenting on this by referring to the fact that Donald's new one will be produced by the much younger trumpet talent Michael Leonhart. This is by far the closest I think Donald will ever get to do a Santana.
It was of course meant a little tongue-in-cheek, but not entirely. I'm convinced the new one will be heavily affected by Michael Leonharts input. But in what way?

That, plus the fact that Donald has stated he has finished the Nightfly Trilogy, and that the new one will be thematically independent, AND the fact that Jon Herington talks very positive about a lot of nice guitar parts, makes me as exited as I can get about it. Yes Dean, tomorrow would be fine, thank you!

Michael, I too wonder about the instrumentation. Of the instruments that you list, I think the following have been used one or more times on previous Dan/Don songs:
acoustic guitar, strings, steel drum, vibraphone, synth. I love vibes, so I'd be especially happy if he incorporates some of that this time as well.
Anyway I'm sure we're in for a surprise - and a treat!

Date: Wed, May 02, 2012, 14:49:01 ET
Posted by: Biff, Q

With the exception of C$, the line producer on SD albums hasn't been that influential. Don didn't credit Walter on Kamakiriad beyond "having someone to bounce ideas off of." Gary Katz is now more of an asterisk than David Palmer.

Date: Wed, May 02, 2012, 13:15:53 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

I'm excited to hear what Fagen sounds like with a new producer (Leonheart). IMO it opened up a new world for Becker on Circus Money, and I felt that parts of Morph The Cat were a little stale.

Date: Wed, May 02, 2012, 11:22:16 ET
Posted by: Michael,

When Don mentioned his new album being 'lighter in tone' than his previous work, I take that as a reference to the lyrics -- not as stoic or grim as MTC. More playful, bright.

It will probably make extensive use of Don's trademark Rhodes sound, piano, organ, brass (sax, trumpet, etc.), bass, electric guitar and drums/percussion. But there are many other instruments which Don rarely if ever incorporates, such as acoustic or classical guitar, strings, harp, flute, recorder, piccolo, steel drum, vibraphone, synths, etc. As well, although MTC is a good album, it doesn't offer much in terms of rhythmic variation and song style. It's mostly laid-back, mellow jazzy/bluesy pop set to a medium tempo.

Nevertheless, nobody else writes music quite like Donald does and I'm anxiously awaiting the new one. There's no other experience comparable to the pre-album launch from one of our favorite artists as we hunt for any info, updates, reviews, and soundclips we can find.

Date: Wed, May 02, 2012, 09:48:49 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Mmmmm, Toast!

BTW, are we still the world?

Seriously though, that sounds like a good project.

As for the release date of Don's new one. June 10th sound good. So does May 23rd. Tomorrow sounds even better.

Date: Wed, May 02, 2012, 08:40:56 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

EMG and Circus Money were both released on June 10. Any chance DF would square the circle, or triangle it, with a solo release on that date?

Date: Wed, May 02, 2012, 05:48:18 ET
Posted by: Dirk, D�sseldorf / Germany

"Toast To Freedom" is dedicated to human rights activism around the world. Nearly 50 artists contributed to celebrate Amnesty International's 50th Anniversary. Toast To Freedom was written by music veterans Carl Carlton and Larry Campbell.
More: http://www.ToastToFreedom.org

Artists include Levon Helm, Kris Kristofferson, Carly Simon, Angelique Kidjo, Ewan McGregor, Saul Hernandez, Donald Fagen, Warren Haynes, Keb Mo, Eric Burdon, Taj Mahal, Florent Pagny, Marianne Faithfull, Jane Birkin, Jimmy Barnes, Rosanne Cash, Shawn Mullins, the Blind Boys of Alabama, Gentleman, among others.


Date: Tues, May 01, 2012, 12:19:05 ET
Posted by: ???, poophead,

Big pat on the back to you B. Turnill.
Because that's really what this was about after all.

Date: Tues, May 01, 2012, 12:18:09 ET
Posted by: T.O. Danfan, Finally!

Friday ticket sales finally announced for the Dukes at Moslum Amphitheatre. A lovely venue in the middle of a broken down, closed down, bankrupt, gov't (taxpayer) owned theme park....uh huh

So it's Dukes on the 12th and Bruce on the 24th. My summer music wish has been granted.


Date: Tues, May 01, 2012, 11:31:47 ET
Posted by: B. Turnill,

Dear ??? or nee poophead -

I have contributed. How 'you doin'?

Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 21:21:32 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Maaan I wish I could get up to NYC to see Monkey House! That is the day we start our rental of "the house on the gulf coast." And the Dukes are in Gulf Shores the previous week, so a lot of decisions still to be made. Good Luck, Don and get down here. This is Jazz Fest fortnight down here, sos you have plenty of time to get MH booked for 2013.

Date: Mon, April 30, 2012, 20:32:30 ET
Posted by: MM, G

Does anybody see the logic in this?


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