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Date: Sun, September 01, 2013, 02:32:03 ET
Posted by: Jeannie, near Houston

You're welcome, guys! Yeah, it's always /watch?v= and then the 11-character code for the video. Hoping to see more videos from the show in The Woodlands since I really, really wanted to be there, but wasn't able to. So tia to anyone who can post anything.

Date: Sun, September 01, 2013, 00:31:50 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

YouTube channel "CalVid" has some very nice Nokia footage up right now, inc. Do It Again, Rikki, & etc.

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 23:11:47 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Thanks, Jeannie! I am trying to join the "Pixeleen" generation, but I just can't seem to get my edit > watch thing together... I count on y'all to keep my IT real.

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 22:02:06 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Thanks Jeanne and Jim!

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 21:30:33 ET
Posted by: Jeannie, near Houston

I was able to change Jim's video from edit to watch format, and it worked. So here you go.

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 20:08:55 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Shane: don't know what to say... I went back and did quality control... Copy the URL and paste into your browser...should play:

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 20:00:47 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

My 10th SD show and one of my favorites. Was 5th row back in front of Jon and Walter in the pit and to my surprise they air conditioning. Walter was indeed fussy but I enjoyed every bit of Hey 19 and Daddy. Guy in front of me had a set list and it was followed to the T except they didn't play DTMA. Not sure if that has been played this tour. Donald was very appreciative of the crowd. Herrington and Carlock were outstanding and Jim I agree with you on Razor boy. Highlights for me were Bodi and BF. I had no issues with the set list.

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 19:56:52 ET
Posted by: Shane, San Francisco

Still can't view it. Keep getting the "500 Internal Server Error".

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 19:28:17 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge (once more)

Here is Razor Boy at Sound Check in Houston on 8/30/13. I think that it is perfectly lovely, and I enjoyed it immensely at the show:

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 17:04:42 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Where the hell am I?

@Dean... more like "outside" info. I was standing by the south gate listening (courtesy of information from Little Wild One). I could see Walter and Jon, but little else. However, I could hear everything perfectly.

First, it was nice meeting up with Little Wild One and Ed, whom I had never met before and LF and AM. As in Louisville, hospitality and welcome were spectacular. It is always nice to sit and talk to people who know more about SD than I will ever hope to know. Plus we talked about our kids and the usual Baby Boomer stuff. Nice people, nice company.

I had 3 or 4 different stories on when sound check would occur. The only reason I knew it was imminent was because I happened to wander by the back-stage area when Donald arrived.

As to the show itself, there were some initial technical issues, which were quickly resolved. They had a little problem with the melodica on Aja (it wasn't up in the house at first) but they eventually solved those problems. TOOM sounded spectacular, as did Godwhacker. I have to say that Razor Boy sounded much better than it did in Louisville. There was some added warmth in the vocal EQ...maybe it was because I as closer ;-).

I don't want to belabor the point, but Walter was really unhappy with something in his rig. It was to the point where, during Daddy, he was fussing around and dropped the first half to the first line of the second verse.

The crowd was very alive, from where I sat (14 rows back in the orchestra in front of Jon). It was my first time in the venue, so I have no experience to compare it with. Perhaps LWO or HouDanFan can fill in the blanks.

I also thought that the crowd was much more appreciative of the Deep Blue Organ Trio than in Louisville. They should go over well in Memphis as well.

And speaking of Memphis, that will probably be my last show on this tour, unless I win the lottery. Have enjoyed meeting some of you, and hope to "do it again" real soon.

I will try to send out a good report from Memphis, but I will be on a much tighter schedule next week.

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 16:40:22 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

The latest edition of the Dandom Digest was just mailed. This one covered posts for August 12 - today, August 31, 2013. The previous Dandom Digest was dated July 20-August 11, 2013.

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As I regularly remind subscribers, some people have problems with delivery of the Dandom Digest, usually because of their spam filters, firewalls, etc. That's why this sort of notice is posted here--so you are aware that you should have received the latest edition.

The following are the subject headlines of the Dandom Digest for August 12-31, 2013.


- DF's New Book: Cow Blood Ink Edition??
- DF Book Signing Tour
- More: DF Book Signing Tour
- REDUX: Misc Info on DF's Eminent Hipsters
- William Gibson on DF's Book: "it's marvellous"
- Clavinet on "I Got the News"?
- Re: (x 5): Clavinet on "I Got the News"?
- Carolyn L. Performance and music video.
- Cat Russell on T�te
- ReDuX! From the Tweeter Center
- ReDuX!: Danfests 2013
- St. Vincent nods Steely Dan
- SD Album: I'd Like a Live Box Set
- The Night The Lights Went Out
- They owe it all to Steely Dan...
- RIP, Marian McPartland


- SPOILEResque: Show Setlists
- REDUX: SPOILER: Opening Cover Song
- SPOILER: Idaho Botanical Gardens
- SPOILER: 8/13: Portland, OR: "GREAT GREAT GREAT!"
- SPOILER: Seattle Times Review
- NOT-a-SPOILER: Seattle/Redmond: "The Dan abides"
- SPOILER: Seattle: "Best performance...ever (out of 16)"
- SPOILER: AllAboutJazz on Cleveland Show: "Best Band In The Country"
- SPOILER: 8/21-San Diego: "SD Soars"
- SPOILER: Santa Barbara: Set List
- SPOILER: 8/23-Vega$: "top notch!"
- SPOILER: Steely Dan LA (Nokia) 8/24/13 "Aja"
- SPOILER: Steely Dan LA (Nokia) 8/25/13 "Greatest Hits"
- SPOILER: 8/25-Nokia, L.A. "Overall...Excellent"


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Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 16:35:35 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Security Joan:

How kind of you to see that someone had a chance. You're great!



Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 15:20:03 ET
Posted by: Slim, Montgomery TX

Maybe Walter was cranky during the first half of last night's show because of the sweltering hot weather. I wonder why the lawn section was closed off at the Pavilion last night. They could have sold more tickets if they opened up the lawn.

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 14:49:45 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Jim, no problem really. I was just confused for a few minutes. I figured it out. Thanks for the inside info on the sound check.

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 14:16:36 ET
Posted by: security joan, emergency danfan channel

Hey! One of my twitter buddies has an extra, great ticket for to nights show if they can give them a lift to show from ft. Smith AK (no idea what that distance is, but if you are in that vicinity I'm guessing you'd know!) Date had an emergency... give shout out here and I'll get you the contact info

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 11:24:36 ET
Posted by: Razorboy666, Austin

Doc Mu - though I may complain and second guess,
I've been with them from the beginning and am not bailing out now. I willI always be at every Steely Dan show I can get to. So no you may not have my ticket :-)

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 10:27:01 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Northeast of the Rio Grande

Dean, I was sitting there typing on my phone and I couldn't remember if Godwhacker was one word or 2, LOL. Set list was same as Louisville w/ exception of BF for KOTW and Daddy for Monkey. Walter was REALLY unhappy first half of the show. More fussing with guitars than usual.

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 09:02:08 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

GW had me tied in knots last night, too. Did they write a song about Gus Winterbottom?

Then I finally figured it out (I think). Godwhacker. Not two words (as GW seems to indicate) but that has to be it. No?

Can't wait til September 8th. I might end up with an extra ticket, too.

Date: Sat, August 31, 2013, 07:35:52 ET
Posted by: ., x

What's GW?

Date: Fri, August 30, 2013, 19:10:18 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Post sound check- Stadia Sports Grill

Houston sound check:
1. Josie
3. GW
4. TOOM chorus
5. Green Earrings
6. Razor Boy
7. Black Friday no leadvocala

Date: Fri, August 30, 2013, 18:32:15 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

666: I should have been in your seat on Wed. Next time I will be ;o

Date: Fri, August 30, 2013, 17:34:55 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, SD central

Sound check underway. Walter and Freddy getting levels. Saw Donald roll up in his limo around 4.

Date: Fri, August 30, 2013, 17:03:22 ET
Posted by: Bob, Texas

Word is KOTW will happen tonight! Looking forward to sound check update.

Date: Fri, August 30, 2013, 15:54:37 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, North of the Rio Grande

Well, I am at the Stadia Sports Grill getting ready to go listen to sound check. Will report back. For those coming to Danfest, I am the ugly silver-haired guy in the black-spotted short sleeve shirt.

Date: Fri, August 30, 2013, 11:13:28 ET
Posted by: Josh, Marymount

I'd like to give SD the benefit of the doubt and I will enjoy any sort of show. But it does appear that they are discriminating against the smaller markets apparently going by the evidence so far.

Date: Fri, August 30, 2013, 09:08:30 ET
Posted by: agree with hector, derry

Pick any one of the Beacon shows and the set list will be better than what most of the country has seen or will see.

Date: Fri, August 30, 2013, 01:28:37 ET
Posted by: Another Scurvy, Bro

Can't believe those big shots in Kettering got to hear King of the World, but us Bay Area lowlifes got the snub.

Date: Fri, August 30, 2013, 01:23:05 ET
Posted by: Kirk , NorCal

I suspect that Don and Walt have a very complicated formula that takes into account the population within a 50mi radius of the concert site, divided by the predicted humidity for the day of concert, multiplied by the number of restrooms in the concert venue, minus the days remaining until the next full moon . . . and use the product to determine whether or not KOTW is played. Apparently San Francisco, with a population of 4 or 5 million within 50 miles didn't make the cut. Sadly, I was left with such boring numbers as Aja and Hey 19.

Further proof that life sucks.

Date: Fri, August 30, 2013, 00:55:56 ET
Posted by: Scott D., Boulder CO

That's kind of sad and unfair. Why should people who live in the major market cities like Los Angeles and New York have the privilege of hearing rare songs like King of the World while the rest of us who live in smaller cities get the regular predictable setlist?

Date: Fri, August 30, 2013, 00:24:28 ET
Posted by: Hector E.,

From what we have seen so far the setlist has been better in the major cities and the smaller cities have been getting the cookie cutter screw job that we were warned about early on by Greco. It has also appeared that Don and Walt are getting old and mailing in the performance.

The huge city of LA recently got King of the World after it disappeared from set lists in Cleveland and other puny markets. They are catering to the large markets with higher tickets and more fans. New York is the largest city and has multiple appearances and I guarantee you they will get the most setlist surprises. I would not be surprised if that is where we will see EMG, TAN and Sunken Condo songs added. New York will have the best shows and it will be worth it to go there to see it.

Date: Thurs, August 29, 2013, 23:15:21 ET
Posted by: Burger Boy, San Francisco

This is depressing. Summer is coming to an end. All the major rock acts are finishing up their tours. The only "big" concert I'm looking forward seeing is the Brian Wilson/Jeff Beck show in October.

Date: Thurs, August 29, 2013, 21:41:55 ET
Posted by: Search, l

Hey Nineteen on American Top 40 in 1981.

Date: Thurs, August 29, 2013, 18:33:53 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Larry Carlton on his SD experience.
This is funny!

Date: Thurs, August 29, 2013, 16:46:21 ET
Posted by: Moe, Elgin TX

Great show at the Bass Concert Hall down in Austin last night. Crowd was very well-behaved and passive. Most people sat in their seats throughout the show. Nice enjoyable evening without all the rowdy and unruly rock audience that I can't stand.

Date: Thurs, August 29, 2013, 16:27:34 ET
Posted by: Another Scurvy, Brother

If you like Dan Samples, check it out, otherwise cover your ears. (Apologies if this has been posted before.)

Artist: Supernatural
Track: Showdown
Sample: Fire in the Hole

Date: Thurs, August 29, 2013, 13:56:45 ET
Posted by: Di, Orlando

I asked awhile back about the crowd response. I read this board but I'm still hesitant to write much ...some of the stuff posted lately is blowing my mind. Someone walked out after 4 songs? (Not unless I was shot or on fire and even then maybe not.) Folks upset because a 63 yr old Walt and a 65 yr old Don aren't doing backflips and cartwheels?! Do you even realize what band this is? They're umm, kinda KNOWN for musicianship. I've not yet had the priviledge of seeing them live (less than 2 weeks and counting) but if what I can expect is a bored crowd and the best players in the world - I'll take it!

Date: Thurs, August 29, 2013, 11:25:47 ET
Posted by: razorboy666, Austin

I can appreciate the difference between a rock show and a jazz show and good/great show and a magic one. With a few exceptions, there wasn�t that much magic last night. The musicianship was excellent, as always. I am primarily a jazz fan and Steely Dan is one of the few crossover acts I follow. And have since Cheap Thrills in the early �70s. The crowd wasn�t that great, they barely stood up at all, although they did clap a lot. I wasn�t expecting a testosterone rock show, although Steely Dan is perfectly capable of rocking it out.

I don�t know, I�ve seen Bela Fleck with Marcus Roberts Trio, Stanley Clarke Band, Billy Cobham, Jimmy Herring Band, Zappa plays Zappa, Return to Forever, Eric Johnson, Robben Ford, Richard Thompson, Tower of Power, Jean Luc Ponty and Tommy Emmanuel with Monte Montgomery and Larry Carlton sitting in within the last couple of years. Plus a lot of local jazz and progressive stuff. There wasn�t much lack of magic in any of those shows. I did see Jackson Browne also and he put on the most boring show I�ve seen in years of any style. Ironic - it was at the same venue as SD last night. Maybe that�s the problem.

The show last night had great sections, great horn work; Jon Harington and Keith Carlock always electrify.

I don�t really know what to think. Maybe they�re tired. Maybe they are getting burned out on a repetitious set list. Maybe my expectations were too high or I�m too jaded. Whatever - I�m glad I was able to see them and will continue to follow the band, buy their records, go to the shows, etc. I just hope they�re having fun and all the touring is not tedious for them. I would rather see them put out more albums but touring must be pretty lucrative so who can blame them?

Date: Thurs, August 29, 2013, 10:40:18 ET
Posted by: UH?,

razorboy666, What the f&*k are you even talking about? Go away.

Date: Thurs, August 29, 2013, 05:20:50 ET
Posted by: SS, HK

Razorboy, you've referred to great musicians dialing it in. This reminds me of watching jazz bands, and often I consider SD to be that. People are not moving that much, except DF. The playing is great but if you turned down the sound, what would you notice ?

I would be concerned if the playing was sub par because the band was not putting out.

Was that your experience ?

Date: Thurs, August 29, 2013, 00:57:43 ET
Posted by: razorboy666, austin

Great musicians can dial it in. Great chops are always great to hear. I love the dan more than any other band, so it pains me to say it but I guess they�re trying to save up for retirement. The show in Austin, great musicianship on autopilot. I can totally understand the aging aspect of this though. The boys are being fiscally responsible.

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 22:40:48 ET
Posted by: So Sad, near Houston

Malone: no ticket, no money, and no one to go with. Thanks for asking though.

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 22:00:20 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

"So Sad," there are still a few tickets left through Ticketmaster. None on the grass, however.

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 21:56:57 ET
Posted by: Malone, Deer Park, TX

What's the problem here? How come you can't go to the concert?

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 21:43:19 ET
Posted by: So Sad, near Houston

Getting more and more distressed and depressed as the time draws near for The Woodlands concert. Once I know that Steely Dan has come and gone without me seeing them, I hate to think how bad it will be. It would take a major miracle to save me from this fate, but I'm not holding out much hope at this point. This would probably be my only chance to ever see them live.

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 21:16:09 ET
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Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 18:09:54 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

I was home sick from work today and decided to read this for the first time since the seventies:

This was Salinger's last published work (June 19, 1965 edition of The New Yorker) A funny, profound read. It is no wonder that Donald loves Salinger. It is long, but I recommend setting aside the time to read it in one go.

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 16:38:24 ET
Posted by: Moe, Elgin TX

Anybody going to the show down in Austin tonight? Show is completely sold out so it should be good.

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 13:55:00 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Yes, thanks X. I made a conscious attempt to record KOTW in Louisville and experienced an epic iPhone failure.

@ Little Wild One: Do you have any inside info as to what time the sound check is scheduled? I will be rolling in with friends around noon/1 PMish.

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 13:38:21 ET
Posted by: KD, adsf


you could have recorded that with two cans and a piece of string, and that band would still sound killer. Thanks, X. Thanx.

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 12:17:49 ET
Posted by: Doug, ,

I think the proof that they'll play Countdown at some point is that they've been playing Bodhisattva followed by Razor Boy most nights. Of all the cuts on Countdown, Razor Boy is the one with the least obvious intro -- now that they've worked out how to do Show Biz Kids. I remember thinking in Louisville that the way they went from Bodhisattva to Razor Boy seemed to be a way of linking those tunes in a live setting; the come-down from Bodhisattva and the relaxed start of Razor Boy working on the LP but not neccesarily live.

Just my thoughts on the matter ...

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 12:05:44 ET
Posted by: x, x

you're welcome everybody. Hope someone can put it on their youtube or somewhere, since I have to take the file down in a day or so

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 10:44:20 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Rio Grande

Oh yes of course; THANK YOU to X. Finally!

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 10:38:29 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Really enjoyed that KOTW clip. So funky. Thanks for the upload.

Can't believe all those people getting up, walking around back and forth during that performance. What is wrong with people?

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 09:00:33 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

Thanks X! Regardless of sound quality, it is much appreciated, and even from that recording, King of the World sounds like it really works well live. So it's a shame that it's not getting a great audience response or they're not comfortable playing it.

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 08:05:10 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Pencey Prep

@Jim T
Yeah, I guess you're right. It may never come true, or it may turn out an ugly grave robbery, i.e. it should maybe have stayed unreleased. I guess we'll live to see. If it ever comes true at all, that is.

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 05:13:40 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

@ Jazzassin: I read that as well. There are serious caveats to the info in that article. I hope that the film-maker is correct. However, I am concerned that all of the sources related to the publication of "new" works is anonymous. And who fucking knows what he actually wrote during that period. Seymour Glass?

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 04:58:23 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

@ Little Wild One: Thanks for the info! I will be driving in from Baton Rouge that morning. Look forward to the Dan Fest. Let me know if it changes venue.

Date: Wed, August 28, 2013, 01:57:52 ET
Posted by: x, x

I posted about King Of The World being played in LA. Here is my audience recording (an m4a) -- it truly truly sucks, but maybe those who have been dying to hear it can get some illumination from it. I'll only keep the file here for 48 hours tops, but I trust someone with more tech savvy than I have will quickly download it and make available to all in some way. Did I mention that the recording sucks?

Date: Tues, August 27, 2013, 21:43:55 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Two SD gigs on the calendar this year - 9/12 at Mizner Amp in Boca Raton, FL. Section C, 13th row, should be right in front of Donald. What's so special and exciting about this, my 11th show is that I'm taking my 80-something parents for their 60th anniversary. Dad grew up on Stan Kenton, mom grew up on Ella and Sinatra. Show # 12 will be 9/27 at the Sands in Bethlehem PA. Press passes, courtesy of a NJ rocker, The Aquarian Weekly. If all goes as planned, my 3rd SD review will be published in Oct. Hoping that Don's pipes are strong and steady. LOVE this band! Never, ever "disappointed".

Date: Tues, August 27, 2013, 21:10:16 ET
Posted by: Larry, LA

You might have to wait until the tour gets to the Beacon in New York or at the Boston shows. Someone should upload a complete King of The World at one of these concerts. Who knew they were going to resurrect this song for the Nokia Theatre?

Date: Tues, August 27, 2013, 20:42:40 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

Another "partial" clip of King of the World (Nokia Theatre)...can nobody get this full song? Plenty of people want to upload Reelin' in the Years.

Date: Tues, August 27, 2013, 19:52:21 ET
Posted by: Little Wild One, Downtown Dan-on

Three days and counting! If anyone would like to meet up prior to the Houston show on 8/30, I will lead the charge. First thought was the Stadia Sports Bar which is within walking distance to the Pavilion, but open to suggestions! I'm thinking 5-5:30 pm.

Jim Taylor, I work (for kicks and certainly not cash) at the Woodlands Pavilion. You won't be able to see sound check, but probably the best place to hear it would be on the south side by the waterway. It is a public area so I don't think anyone would bother you.

Looking forward to seeing old friends and making new ones. xoxoxo

Date: Tues, August 27, 2013, 19:31:00 ET
Posted by: search, k

After seeing the post about Salinger, I stumbled upon this upcoming movie. Got my hopes up for seeing an appearance by DF, but he's not listed.

Date: Tues, August 27, 2013, 19:26:03 ET
Posted by: Boll Weevil, Georgetown, TX

Really looking forward to tomorrow night's show in Austin. I'm grateful the concert is indoors as the weather here is 100 degrees scorching hot.

Date: Tues, August 27, 2013, 18:29:20 ET
Posted by: RHAJA, LA

Loved the show Sunday night in LA. Went in with the right expectations about venue and the potential for Donalds voice not being optimal given the circumstances. Liked the set list tremendously. Really liked the version of Aja- Keith just ripped all night long. WE sat 2nd row pit right side and felt the sound was off a little. But not as bad as when I have seen other shows at Nokia. Will gladly pay the money and see them again.

Date: Tues, August 27, 2013, 13:33:00 ET
Posted by: autotune, oc

You know, if this concert was performed like most are now a days, Mr. Disappointed would never have left.

In fact he would have raved how great the concert was and Fagens performance would have been timeless.

And he would have been right, unfortunately, Fagen would have had to lipsynch to the perfect studio recording.

Mr Disappointed would have really enjoyed a fraud performance like that instead of the soulful one we witnessed.

Date: Tues, August 27, 2013, 07:53:33 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, J.D.s voice from the grave

We know that J.D.Salinger was one of Donald's favorite writers, and Donald even wrote an essay about Salinger for the old website in 2010 right after Salinger's death.

According to a new Salinger biography a series of posthumous releases are planned, starting sometime between 2015 and 2020.

@Don B: Thanks! Interesting twist on KOTW. Let's hope they save a copy for NYC at least.

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 23:52:03 ET
Posted by: Larry, LA

I feel that Steely Dan's heavy touring schedule was probably the main reason Donald's voice was starting to falter around the middle of last night's Nokia show. Too many dates were squeezed together for the California/Nevada portion of the tour. Each successive night in San Francisco, Reno, Santa Barbara, San Diego, Vegas and Los Angeles probably took a heavy toll on Donald's voice. Some people in the audience were talking about the recent sad news of Linda Ronstadt's Parkinson's Disease and the fact that she can no longer sing. I hope Donald and Walter take good care of their health so they can continue to perform for us in the years to come.

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 21:35:56 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

It's funny, they played DIA in Nashville in 2011 and I didn't think twice about it. It sounded perfectly fine. Then I went to see them in Vegas, and I was surprised that they didn't play it, given the Vegas references in the song. They really do play what they want to play, without respect to our expectations.

What would be fun would be for them to play CTE in Houston or Memphis. Houston because it's as close to the Rio Grande as they are going to get, and Memphis because...well a myriad of reasons having to do with the musical history of the place and just for the Dylan reference. And they aren't going to be stuck in Mobile...ever...

I also have an excellent 1974 CD of a show in Memphis when they played there for the first time. It's just a great old music city.

But, as I speculated earlier, if they are going to play CTE in its entirety, it will probably be New York, Philly or Boston. Hope so for Joan's sake...

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 20:56:23 ET
Posted by: Frank Talley, Echo Park

I was at the Nokia show last night for "greatest hits"night . Based on the setlists posted until now it is clear they added Rikki and Do It Again to satisfy the greatest hits advertisement. I share donald and walter's distaste for playing DIA as it just doesnt translate well in terms of the instruments, sounds, etc of the recording. Overall the show was excellent, perhaps the best yet (I have seen about 8 performances across several tours) because this band just cannot get better, and yet they do. It is almost scary how good they are. Becker.'s playing was excellent -- much improved from '11. He also looked in good health if still a bit 'portly'. Donald was really struggling voice wise, I agree with poster who identified deacon blues as the turning point - but you could see he was giving it everything he had. The ladies were excellent and I think Ms. Hall has fit in beautifully with a very difficult vocal section. Herington and Carlock were standouts, also Roger Rosenberg was very expressive and cool sounding.The sound was pretty bad - boomy low frequencies and not much seperation between instruments. The venue basically sounds like a tin can (noticed last night there is no treatment on the high cavern-like celing which is all steel beams and pipes.) A band with this many instruments and playing complex music will never sound good in a venue like this. The crowd was not bad but not that great either. Security are ** holes. Overall it was a Win for me, and I am looking at the schedule to see if I could make another show somewhere. I wouldn't mind if I heard all the same songs again.. Sorry about the iPad typos.

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 20:47:11 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

"Disappointed" is a troll, here to create discontent and discord in the community. I am 100% positive that all of those Ticketmaster "reviews" are by this same troll. I will feed him no more. LOL... Not having a life sucks, doesn't it?

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 20:39:30 ET
Posted by: HohDan, Houston

Larry don't u understand. Diss-appointed is lost and he needs direction. We should be his pal and help this lost soul.

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 19:16:13 ET
Posted by: Larry, LA

Just ignore this "disappointed" jerk. He appears to have some type of "grudge" against Steely Dan. I doubt if he was even at the Nokia Theatre shows. So now he's getting a kick by posting his opinions on this board just to get attention.

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 18:50:39 ET
Posted by: Justin, trying 2 help

Let's crowd fund a blow job for "disappointed." Sounds like he ain't gettin' any.

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 18:24:10 ET
Posted by: haywoodjablome, LA


seriously Dude, go buy yourself a life

I mean you spend your time hunting out the few negative comments on a ticket master site so you can post and justify your angst for life

look i don't know why you're so twisted off, maybe you mad at life because you have a small penis, maybe your wife is having an affair with a dwarf, maybe you're still mad that Susie turned you down in grade 8, maybe you're mad because you voted for nobama and realise he's a tool, i don't know, but go buy yourself a drink and chill

but I guess you have a point, I mean, after all you bought your tickets and who would have thought that Fagen doesn't have the same voice after a studio recording from 40+ years ago, i certainly didn't see that coming

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 18:06:33 ET
Posted by: disappointed,

Well you fans are jaded here's what fans on ticketmaster say:

Epic Fail.....
Santa Barbara Bowl
- Santa Barbara
, CA
- Tue, Aug 20, 2013
Posted 08/23/2013
by steelydannomore
This Fan's Reviews
I had been looking forward to the Steely Dan concert for months...
Only to be disappointed by Donald Fagen's vocals, he wasn't on key, couldn't hold a note, and acted as if he never seen his back up band before August 20, 2013.
Walter Becker, was barely a glimmer.
Favorite moment: Walking away from the Santa Barbara Bowl, we left after the first four songs.

Reno Events Center
- Reno
, NV
- Sun, Aug 18, 2013
Posted 08/21/2013
by Anonymous
Waited a lifetime to see this band, and to hear one of the top 5 guitar players of all time. The band was late, and Walter wanted the night off. Apparently he didn't want to do the heavy lifting. He regulated himself to back up guitar. They didn't have the familiar sound, although Donald played his heart out. To say the least I was very disappointed and felt cheated. I hope there is a very good reason why this is so, but he seemed fine. I will not spend the money to see them again.

Reno Events Center
- Reno
, NV
- Sun, Aug 18, 2013
Posted 08/21/2013
by Anonymous
Steely Dan should stay in the studio, the stage is not their friend. I love their music but will never go see them again live. ever
The show was bad enough but the seats and air conditioning made it unbearable, we left half way through.

Steely Dan not what I expected
Reno Events Center
- Reno
, NV
- Sun, Aug 18, 2013
Posted 08/21/2013
by moday
This Fan's Reviews
Did not like and was first time ever walking out of concert.
Not a blues and Jazz fan..
Favorite moment: Drinking my beer

Events center
- Reno
, Ne
- 08/18/2013
Posted 08/19/2013
by Anonymous
Waited a life time to see this band, and see one of my top 5 guitar players ever. Donald gave it a real go of it, but Walter did not want to do any heavy lifting. At first I thought I might be a health issue, but soon realized he wanted the night off. I will not see them again, felt cheated and disappointed.
Favorite moment: None

Red Rocks Amphitheatre
- Morrison
, CO
- Thu, Aug 8, 2013
Posted 08/18/2013
by ChiefPro
This Fan's Reviews
This was one of the worst events I've attended.
Steely Dan should have passed up Red Rocks and played at a local dive bar.
This band was slow to arrive on stage and sound system was off. It seemed have poor sound and needed a better mixer.
Oh yes...and Where was the Camera Guy to focus on close ups of the band members?
It seemed like every one took the night off for this event.
Only good thing was the rain which caused us to leave early.
The band had no energy, nor did they really rock the venue.
Favorite moment: Leaving.

Fox Theatre Detroit
- Detroit
, MI
- Sat, Jul 27, 2013
Posted 07/30/2013
by Brazen8tor
This Fan's Reviews
I heard about their performances from some friends, but didn't believe them. Needless to say, they were right and I regret spending big $ to see them. Not only did they withhold most of their "Top 10 most commonly played on the radio tunes", the songs they did play really weren't very good live. I left midway through the show, something I have NEVER done in over 30 years of concert-going. I just couldn't take it anymore! They have a cult following that I would compare to Dave Matthews, can't really understand what people see in them. But hey, to each is own right?
Favorite moment: When I walked out of the theater
Opening act(s): Sucked too

Fox Theatre
- Detroit
, MI
- 07/27/2013
Posted 07/28/2013
by Dromanza
This Fan's Reviews
The sound mix was awful. Vocals were unintelligible and dominated by the low and high ends. In general, seemed too loud, causing distortion. I've never walked out of a concert before, especially at $100 / ticket. We were done after the 4th song, even though they played "hey nineteen" and "aja". I know these guys are getting old, but there just wasn't much energy or showmanship. Fagen made some snarky comments about the tour title and Becker got up off his stool to relate a stupid / trying to be funny / lead-in to "cuervo gold" part of hey nineteen. I love Steely Dan's music because of their precision as musicians; the muddled acoustics of this concert did not deliver that critical aspect of their music.
Favorite moment: Drum lines in "aja". The drummer was absolutely kicking.
1 of 3 found this review helpful.

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 17:22:24 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

Lurker Ray or Gus Winterbottom I think brought up the idea of SD playing Countdown to Ecstasy in its entirety, given that they've been playing a lot of it this tour and they played 6/8 of its songs in LA on Aja night.

Well, I'm hopeful, but not at all optimistic, that they'll play it in ATL on Aja night there in a couple of weeks. I doubt that they'd do something like that in a city like ATL. But maybe they'll pull a Boston '09 type deal, "we're only here for one night, so we might as well play another album." (Of course, they were in Boston for multiple nights; they just didn't have a Royal Scam night that run). And I'll say this, while I don't think SD would give Atlanta the special treatment, I did see Any Major Dude, Bad Sneakers, and the very first performance of Gaucho with Walter Becker on vocals there - songs considered rarities by certain folks on here. And in one of the pre-tour interviews (maybe multiple ones), they did mention the possibility of playing multiple albums on one night. Still, I'm not at all expecting it. But how awesome would this set list be?


Black Cow
Deacon Blues
Home At Last
I Got the News

Razor Boy
The Boston Rag
Your Gold Teeth
Show Biz Kids
My Old School
Pearl of the Quarter
King of the World

Hey Nineteen
Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More
Band Intros
Black Friday
Reelin' in the Years

Kid Charlemagne

That's the same amount of songs they played at Aja night in LA, you'd still get Walter and the girls with their obligatory songs with Daddy and Razor Boy respectively, and you'd really only be replacing Time Out of Mind and Godwhacker with The Boston Rag and Pearl of the Quarter.

Just to reiterate, I'm not going to get my hopes up, and I'm still grateful and happy to see them anyway, much less the opportunity to see them play Aja.

Maybe they'll do something like this in NYC, as other people have speculated.

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 16:48:49 ET
Posted by: lennoxlennox, Nokia Theater

had great seats to last nights show, in the pit, to the right, 3rd row seats 105 & 106, due to the curve of the seats being at the right of the stage, was actually front row seats (no row 1 or 2)

what can i say but fantastic

i was originally disappointed after i got the tickets to see from the set list that "do it again" and "rick" weren't going to be part of the play list.

however i was nicely surprised last night that they played them and actually if you google it, it looks like in select cities, they are doing select shows for their "best hits" for those shows.

True, Fagen struggled on parts of do it again, ricki and reeling in the years, but hey... it was still pretty damned good and the backup singers helped out

Instead of being disappointed with his vocals, i was more dissapointed on the guitar & keyboard work for both ricki and do it again, especially do it again, as it was barely recognizeable and in my opinion the instrumental section really makes that songs one of the all time classics, in my opinion that was very poorly executed, but all in all pretty happy they played that

Overall, Fagen gave his all and you got more than your moneys worth, even me paying for the pit tickets, the jerkoff who posted about leaving....well no accounting for ass clowns is there

I'm glad I was there, as it was a fantastic performance on all songs and the places noted above where he struggled a bit vocally, well that is picking the fly shit out of the pepper... truly memorable and maybe one of the last tours they do - glad I was there - no way would I have been an idiot to have walked out... his loss.

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 16:46:20 ET
Posted by: CJTop, ATL

I can see them doing "Rikki" and "Do It" during the GREATEST HITS special shows but for some reason they avoid during the regular concerts...

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 15:51:35 ET
Posted by: Blake, Norman, OK

It will be interesting to see how the setlist evolves as the tour heads towards Texas. Did anybody who went to the Nokia shows spot any celebrities in the audience? I wonder if that was a factor since the Los Angeles concertgoers got treated to King of The World, Do It Again and Rikki Don't Lose That Number.

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 15:07:09 ET
Posted by: MoMom , L.A. born

No disappointment here....last nights show in L.A was fantastic. We were 15 rows back and the crowd was enthusiastic from the start. The sound started a bit loud and Fagan's voice was a bit off but both improved greatly by the 3rd song. Yes, they has some instrument trouble but these guys are pro musicians so they handle any issues without distracting or diminishing the music. It was a perfect evening from start (Katsuya) to finish!

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 12:40:46 ET
Posted by: ,

How bout dis as the unofficial 11th dan album

Somebody's Saturday Night
Good Stuff
The New Breed
Darling Down
Great Pagoda of Funn
Selfish Gene
Night Belongs to Mona
Slinky Thing
Paging Audrey
Downtown Canon
3 pic deal

what say you

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 12:40:32 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

Hey let's all take up a collection for Diss-appointed. Poor guy was so distraught with he performance he have to leave the show with his wife?????? Was Uncle Bob with ya too? Maybe we can help him as well. Keep um coming.

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 12:02:39 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Running late for my next disappointment

I'm disappointed in your performance here today, Disappointed Joe. Three careless errors in only a short handful of sentences. Very sloppy. Your writing & proof-reading skills are shot. I wish I had left early, before your post ended. What a waste of perfectly good reading time.

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 11:22:17 ET
Posted by: Disappointed, cali

Nokia Theater, What a disappointment. Donald Fagen's voice is shot. Not to mention his blew a ton of lyrics. Walter Beck looks like a bloated walrus and just played rhythm guitar. He did some log ass speech during hey 19 and even had the nerve to try & sing a song. After hearing Do it Again my wife & I left the show. We couldn't take it anymore. I have never left a concert early before in my life. What a waste of good money.


Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 11:19:26 ET
Posted by: Bob. , I'm still your uncle

Apologies for changing the subject and/or butting in guys. I read about Samuel Purdey here a week or so back but I didn't get around to downloading their new album until yesterday. The coda on their song "One Of A Kind" is astonishing. Well worth a look.

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 03:21:53 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA

Steely Dan LA (Nokia) 8/25/13 "Greatest Hits"

I have to work tomorrow so I will just get the setlist in and not much else.

Blueport (intro) ~8:20 PM
Your Gold Teeth
Hey 19
Show Biz Kids
Black Cow
Black Friday
Time Out of Mind
Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More (WB vocals)
Deacon Blues
Ricki Don't Lose That Number
Do It Again
I Wanna Do Everything for You (Band Intros)
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years


Kid Charlemagne
Untouchables Theme (outro) ~10:25 PM

Tonight from where I sat (sixth row of the Right Center Orchestra) the sound was noticeably better than last night near the soundboard.
Mrs. GW was in the left pit section and was not as happy with the mix there, however.

Donald had a bit of trouble with his melodica tonight during the opening of TOOM: the mouthpiece came off, and Donald's tech quickly
brought out a (presumably tighter) replacement.

Lots of standout performances tonight, but if I had to pick one it would be Jon Herington on "Rikki".

Overall I thought the crowd was a bit less energetic than last night's, but I was near the front tonight and did not have the best vantage
point to compare responses.

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 00:30:23 ET
Posted by: D, D

Poor Donald voice had catastrophic failure on deacon blues--3rd concert in a row taking its toll. So far no Rikki or Do it again

Date: Mon, August 26, 2013, 00:24:59 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles

Quite right, Jazzassin: KOTW is down a whole tone, so the variation I was talking about is Gm7, Am7, D. #StandCorrected

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 22:48:38 ET
Posted by: Bob, Texas

Could we get a take on tonight's show in LA please!!!!!!

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 21:28:19 ET
Posted by: Luke,

Lurker Ray - Did you ever think that maybe the other 20 shows on this tour that you didn't see might have been better?.....LMAO

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 19:48:04 ET
Posted by: Larry, LA

Back for one more night here at the Nokia Theatre. Security has always been very tight at this venue. Just like going through an airport search. I'm gonna eat a big humongous meal at the crowded Rock'n Fish restaurant before the show. It's "greatest hits night", but I think Donald might sneak in Green Book or another rarity for the Los Angeles crowd again.

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 15:46:41 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, SoBe - Picture Perfect

I'd say LA last night & Louisville
are the 2 must see shows so far.

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 15:27:06 ET
Posted by: CJTop, ATL

I'm sort of new to the Steely Dan setlist song pickin' and I just wondered does anybody know why they don't play "Do It Again" and "Rikki Don't Lose That Number" much?

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 15:22:31 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, honing the ears

Re: Harmony Nerd Dept. on KOTW

Don, I listen to the Youtube clip from 07.27.2013 in Louisville, KY, and the first thing that strikes me is they have transposed the song one whole note down, so the sequence that used to be C-D-E is now Bb-C-D.

Does your comment mean they played the song back in the original key, but with the altered harmonic progression?

Or, if they used the new lowered key after all, does that mean they played Gm-Am-D for the altered progression?

Just curious, since the audio quality of the youtube clip doesn't give away much about the bass & keyboard parts that would allow a more accurate analysis.

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 14:22:56 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles

Great show at the Nokia last night. Carlock + Weiskopf in particular were KILLING! From the Harmony Nerd Dep't, I like what they've done with the main progression in "King of the World": what used to be C, D, E is now Am7, Bm7, E. Less parallel, nice little flavor change.

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 14:17:40 ET
Posted by: LR, SoBe

Thanks Gus. Yeah they had the same
sound problem the last time they played
the Nokia in LA. The Greek is so
far the best place to see them in

Not to mention a lot easier to get
recording devises in!

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 14:03:54 ET
Posted by: Kirk , NorCal

Regarding sound check start time:
If you hope to catch a sound check, I'd recommend showing up around 3 P.M. You'll probably be early, and might spend an hour listening to the support crew test mikes, instruments, and so on before the band arrives.

Eventually the band, minus Donald and Walter will show up and run through a few tunes (the ones rehearsed without D and W probably won't show up in that night's set list). If you're patient, D and W arrive and the full band goes through what amounts to a partial set list. Not all songs will be played in their entirety. You'll hear Donald doing some coaching and commenting on what's being played, and how. By 5 or so it's over.

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 13:54:24 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA


Regarding your comment, at one point Donald said something like "We wrote a lot of these songs in LA, so it's good to come back and play them here." This is by no means an exact quote.

I hope KOTW makes a regular return to the setlist. Moreover, this might indicate that a full CTE album night is somewhere in the future. I don't think we will get that tonight, but maybe they will try it on one of the non-album nights at the Beacon.

As for the sound, we were dead center last night, about 6 rows in front of the soundboard (which means about 40 rows back from the stage). FWIW, I thought the sound from there was good, but I think just a bit too loud. A couple of other venue-related comments: I think the seats have been changed since 2008 when we were last there. they are less comfortable, and the backs are lower. I guess it is possible that sightline problems led to this change, but I don't recall any problems last time. Also, the video monitors flanking the stage were not in use last night.

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 13:24:09 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, SoBe - But Wishing I Was Back In LA Last Night


Thanks for the setlist. As I have
said before, LA love it or hate it
or indifferent, Donald & Walter
know there would be no "Steely Dan"
without LA.

Just like in 2011 after "Aja" in it's
entirety at The Greek we were treated
to "The Bear", last night, they
treated you all to "King Of The World"
after many reports of it's demise.

Let's hope they are feeling generous
in FLA. How was the sound at the
Nokia last night?

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 13:20:07 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Question: Is there an established schedule for sound check? If so what time do they normally SC? I was told in Lost Wages in 2011 that it was 3 P.M. Any inside knowledge out there?

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 04:48:35 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA

Before I get started, thanks to all who have posted setlists, review, links, etc. so far. The intro and band intro titles are based on prior reports and not my personal knowledge.

Steely Dan, Aja Night, LA (Nokia) 8/24/13


Blueport(intro) ~8:45 PM

Aja (album)
Your Gold Teeth
King of the World
Hey 19
Showbiz Kids
Black Friday
Time Out of Mind
Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More (WB vocals)
Razor Boy (Ladies' vocals)
I Wanna Do Everything for You (band intros)
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years


Kid Charlemagne
Untouchables theme (outro) ~11:10 PM

I'm too tired to make many coherent comments, but To all those who have posted that the band is tighter than ever, I wholeheartedly agree. And as others have stated, Donald's vocals seem stronger this tour as well; I thought the best example of that tonight was King of the World.

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 04:39:13 ET
Posted by: Larry, LA

Tears of joy were running down my face when they began to play King of the World. I was really caught off guard, but I knew Donald always likes to surprise the audience when they play here in Los Angeles. Thank you Donald for playing my favorite Steely Dan song! It was a dream come true.

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 01:24:19 ET
Posted by: X, X

They played king of the world soon after finishing the Aja album

Date: Sun, August 25, 2013, 01:15:29 ET
Posted by: razorboy666, austin

Josh - hope it was a great show, knowing that it was. Did they follow the established playlist?

Date: Sat, August 24, 2013, 19:25:22 ET
Posted by: Josh, Nokia

Couple questions for tonight's show; what time have the boys been going on stage and where are the pre and post parties??

Date: Sat, August 24, 2013, 17:13:35 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Have fun, Don. I have back to back Friday shows coming up: Houston on 8/30 and then Memphis on 9/6. Would like to go to NYC, but I don't think the finances will allow...

Date: Sat, August 24, 2013, 16:40:03 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles

Going to the Aja show @ the Nokia tonight: great seats, aftershow, the works! Hope DF is sounding as good as he did in Toronto back in July...

Date: Sat, August 24, 2013, 12:51:59 ET
Posted by: Malibu Dave, Malibu

what time will they take the stage tonight ? tickets say 8pm

Date: Sat, August 24, 2013, 12:43:46 ET
Posted by: Tim, Las Vegas, NV

Sorry about the double post below.

BTW, Keith Carlock is a machine!

Date: Sat, August 24, 2013, 11:57:41 ET
Posted by: Lonnie THE Kingpin, Home, at last

Hiya Kidz,

A question for this fine community of Dan fans: who knows the history behind SD recording "I Idolize You"? I think that is an Ike and Tina Turner tune? Any help appreciated. When did they record that single? It is excellent. Thank you!

Lonnie (of '65)

Date: Sat, August 24, 2013, 11:29:52 ET
Posted by: Tim, Las Vegas, NV

Very spirited show last night at the Palms. Walter was especially in rare form. His standard rap during Hey19 included references to living in a trailer out in the desert, a converted methlab, an old stash box purchased at the '76 renaissance fair containing just enough to twist up a "fatty". During the band introductions, he forgot to introduce the 4 horn players. He introduced his partner of 40 years, a man about town, a stern critic of the contemporary scene, Donald Becker. They came back on stage for the encore and Walter was reminded that he forgot the horn section, so he did a quick introduction before Kid Charlemagne, saying that it was a record for not introducing 4 band members. Donald remarked that this was the loudest audience they've played to on this tour so far. The crowd fed off of this, and security down front had their hands full with enthusiastic fans.

The performance was top notch! The setlist didn't deviate from the past 6 or 7 shows. I for one don't mind at all if they play these well worn out songs. It was fun! They've made slight changes to the arrangements of these songs, but they are well played. I've seen every tour since 2000, sure I would've liked a King of the World, but I was happy I went. I would go back tonight, knowing that they were only going to play the same songs. Highlights for me: Hey19 (Walter's Rap), Showbiz Kids, Black Cow, Godwhacker, Bodhisattva. The only song that didn't seem right was Razor Boy. The arrangement was good, but the girls vocals seemed out if place. They really didn't annunciate the lyrics, doing a disservice to the song and their ability and vocal range.

Overall, two thumbs up!! Go see one or more of the remaining shows.

Date: Sat, August 24, 2013, 11:29:43 ET
Posted by: Tim, Las Vegas, NV

Very spirited show last night at the Palms. Walter was especially in rare form. His standard rap during Hey19 included references to living in a trailer out in the desert, a converted methlab, an old stash box purchased at the '76 renaissance fair containing just enough to twist up a "fatty". During the band introductions, he forgot to introduce the 4 horn players. He introduced his partner of 40 years, a man about town, a stern critic of the contemporary scene, Donald Becker. They came back on stage for the encore and Walter was reminded that he forgot the horn section, so he did a quick introduction before Kid Charlemagne, saying that it was a record for not introducing 4 band members. Donald remarked that this was the loudest audience they've played to on this tour so far. The crowd fed off of this, and security down front had their hands full with enthusiastic fans.

The performance was top notch! The setlist didn't deviate from the past 6 or 7 shows. I for one don't mind at all if they play these well worn out songs. It was fun! They've made slight changes to the arrangements of these songs, but they are well played. I've seen every tour since 2000, sure I would've liked a King of the World, but I was happy I went. I would go back tonight, knowing that they were only going to play the same songs. Highlights for me: Hey19 (Walter's Rap), Showbiz Kids, Black Cow, Godwhacker, Bodhisattva. The only song that didn't seem right was Razor Boy. The arrangement was good, but the girls vocals seemed out if place. They really didn't annunciate the lyrics, doing a disservice to the song and their ability and vocal range.

Overall, two thumbs up!! Go see one or more of the remaining shows.

Date: Fri, August 23, 2013, 23:54:11 ET
Posted by: Dan, NYC

Hey, just remembering a show from around 1990 or so and curious if anyone else has any memory of it...

Wandered up to Hades on the Upper East Side one night because I'd heard Fagen would be there (which he was). I remember Harvey Brooks on bass, Gary Gold on drums, and Mark Volman (Flo and Eddie, the Turtles) singing a bit. The only tunes I remember for sure are Chain Lightning and Josie.

Was anyone else here at that gig? Photos?

Date: Fri, August 23, 2013, 23:22:28 ET
Posted by: almost gothic negative girl, monterey

Late review about Reno.

Overall, quite a good show. I've probably seen about 25 at this point since the early 90's. Venue was smallish and super-easy access. Got rockstar parking, 15 minutes before showtime. Only had to pay $8, walk across the street, wait in a short line, no security shake-down, and in. Win!

Lines for beverages and food were really long, this place isn't set up to handle crowds properely, so passed them by (it was the same way later on in the night). Got to our seats, on the aisle, and were happy with them.

Opener started a little late, therefore, so did the Dan. Opener was good enough, as people were continously pouring into the venue. Enjoyed their tunes. Not mind-blowing, but decent entertainment.

Band came out, things moved along as usual. No real highlites for me, because so much of it was the same thing. Yes, world-class players, with my favorite band, everything was played really well. And we had a great time!

Donald dropped a few lyrics. Not in a big way unless you were really listening. Walter's Hey 19 rap about the smoke and the fire (which had definitely blown major smoke into Reno that afternoon) was appropriate, and had some very funny moments, but was too long.

Razor Boy didn't present itself as the song those wonderful ladies should be singing. Goddamn, the catalogue is so deep, and they have such skill, it was just a little disappointing. Love to hear the song, just not that particular presentation. There is so much they can do and that wasn't really the stellar thing I was hoping to hear.

When it came time for band intros, it coincided with time to use the ladies' room. My sister and I took a walk and when we came back I said lets stay at the back of the venue where people are starting to dance. We finished the rest of the night off there. Danced our butts off, my brother and his girlfriend joined us there, and we had a fantastic time.

I will continue to spend the money and travel to see this band. I really hope they can throw in a few more surprises along the way, because that is what their show needs. Just a couple of well done, unexpected moments of something new.



Date: Fri, August 23, 2013, 22:36:03 ET
Posted by: The LA concession, Los Angeles


I bought e-tickets to Sunday night's show at the Nokia Theatre and the e-mail containing the e-tickets (from "AXS") lists the concert date incorrectly: The e-mail lists the concert as SATURDAY, Aug. 25, not Sunday, as it really is (the 25th is aSunday). The e-tickets themselves are correct, but the body of the e-mail they're sent with has the wrong date. Double-check to make sure you've got the right tickets for the right date��especially if you're going to both shows.


Date: Fri, August 23, 2013, 19:43:09 ET
Posted by: razorboy666, austin

Austin is a smart town, but the music critics, not so much. In general, they just don�t get complex music. They all got their cherries popped at the local punk club, Raul�s (long closed). If Steely Dan is even mentioned, it�s in a condescending manner. I�m hoping that since they�re playing in a sold out concert hall maybe they�ll finally get a little overdue respect. I�m not holding my breath on that but deliriously excited about the show. BTW, I hope Walter flaunts the tea baggers stupidity in their face. (Hey Trisomy 19�).

Date: Fri, August 23, 2013, 17:27:50 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

casual fan --

I REALLY doubt Walter would try to make hay with that for comedic purposes. I'm sure Orlandians are sick of being identified with that case, but it really isn't the first thing we think of when we think of Orlando.

For me, I think of how much I hated having to work in a sport coat when I was down there in mid-June a few years ago. Not exactly a dry heat you guys have going there.

Date: Fri, August 23, 2013, 17:14:22 ET
Posted by: Larry, LA

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Donald might play Green Book or King of the World at the two Nokia Theatre shows I'm going to this weekend. Last time they played in Los Angeles they played "The Bear" at the Greek Theatre, so you just never know.

Date: Fri, August 23, 2013, 16:12:48 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

Re the Hey 19 rap varying by the politics of the region, it occurred to me the other day that, during the Orlando trip, WB needs to make his commentary about theme parks and what not. I am actually a little worried he will attempt some humor regarding some our more notorious recent criminal legal cases down here. If he does that, regardless of what he says, he is guaranteed to offend some significant group of people and no one within earshot is in the mood for that, I can tell you.

Would hate for it to become a distraction.

Date: Fri, August 23, 2013, 15:53:39 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

I'm attending both the Austin and Houston shows. Looking forward to hearing Walter's Hey 19 renditions since these are two vastly different cities. Both obviously have there western culture and both are hotter than hell but politically, like night and day. Ought to be entertaining.

I've always been one to buy tickets from individuals right before the show and have never been disappointed. However, Austin is sold out and there are few available on the scalper sites so it ought to be interesting.

Date: Fri, August 23, 2013, 13:43:56 ET
Posted by: Larry, LA

The way the audience reacts depends on lot on the venue and the location. Steely Dan have always attracted the more sophisticated and well-educated crowd because of the jazz elements in their music. The audience tends to get up and dance mainly towards the end of the show when they start playing Reelin', Peg, Kid Charlemagne and My Old School.

Date: Fri, August 23, 2013, 12:30:34 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

Di, as an Orlandoan who has seen them five times before, and all in Florida (3 x Tampa, 2 x Orlando), backup band starts with warm up tune and DF and WB saunter on stage. A little over half of the audience will recognize what is going on (and recognize DF anyway), and typically there is loud applause and, in the case of us diehards, we tend to stand and applaud. Usually get some others in the crowd who will do the same at that point and about half the crowd will stand for a few moments.

But its not like it goes on forever. You are fine to join in on standing to welcome then, fine to sit. They tend to jump right into things.

I will say that in my experience the crowd reaction to the first 2-3 songs absolutely dictates the level of the band's interest. They are professionals and will always deliver. But I recall seeing them on a Monday night at Ruth Eckerd Hall and for whatever reason, despite it being a Monday night, the crowd was "into it" from moment one. And you could see DF and WB playing off of it, joking with each other and the band, and the intensity was that much higher.

Honestly, I think that is why tickets for this year's Tampa show are $200 on stubhub. Everyone knows they love that place and that place loves them.

Assuming you are going to the Orlando show, its a Wednesday night in September. I'm hoping the crowd responds early and often. It will be a great show regardless, but it can be great if the energy level is there.

Date: Fri, August 23, 2013, 11:02:24 ET
Posted by: Di, Orlando

I'm going to the Dan for the first time in Sept. Got a question for those of you that been. What are the crowds like? I can't imagine being in a room with Walt & Don and not shooting straight up and screaming... but will I turn around and be the only one? Do the crowds usually sit and clap politely or jump and yell or what?

Date: Fri, August 23, 2013, 09:03:16 ET
Posted by: Green Urine, King of Beers

They are obviously cognizant of which songs elicit the beer runs and piss breaks. That's got to be why Green Book and KOTW were nipped in the bud this tour.

Date: Fri, August 23, 2013, 04:37:03 ET
Posted by: Franck, Oklahoma

Steely Dan are probably the greatest live band I've ever seen. The one thing that has always impressed me about them is their ability to construct a setlist with forethought and intelligence. It's not just 20 songs, goodnight. It's an opener -- that, let's be honest, certainly does that job. I remember one reviewer of the EMG tour noting that Cubano Chant enabled the band to "flex their muscles" and get ready for the show proper. And -- let's be honest again -- they need that. But it's the way DF and WB structure their shows that impresses me. Like I say, not just 20 random songs -- or 20 "hits" -- it's an opener, a deep cut that works, Aja, then a hit ... but more to the point I get the feeling that there's a flow. Much like the way they structure their albums -- even going so far as to omit "You Got the Bear" completely just because it didn't fit -- they seem to have the same attitude towards their live shows. And, you know what? Sure, maybe I would have liked "Bear" released, but, hey, if they say it doesn't fit, then it doesn't fit. Much like with Green Book, King of the World etc this year. If it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit. Trust them. I believe the evidence is there that they know what they're doing. So either trust them or don't.

Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 23:55:57 ET
Posted by: Larry, LA

Is Donald still doing that cigarette "act" where he throws it on the floor at the end of the show? I always found it hilarious whenever I saw it. I love Donald's antics on stage. To me, he's the funniest of the two.

Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 22:30:07 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

And on the subject of Walter's "Hey 19" rap, I have always believed that both Walter and Donald are world class comedians. Everybody likes to compare Donald to Ray Charles, but I think that Woody Allen is as close to the mark.

Walter's personality seems to be more along the lines of George Carlin's pithy observations.

I don't go to see SD just for music. I enjoy being in the same room with them and observing their personality coming through.

So yes, I do like to listen to Walter's talk. He is a world-class talker, and he obviously spends some time researching the locale for his "Hey 19" rap.

It's not all about the set list.

Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 22:09:56 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

HouDanFan: Thanks for the info. After my experience in Lost Wages, I think that I'll be content to listen to the sound check. I think that I'll get in for lunch, go to sound check and then go check in to my room and get dinner. I'll follow your advice and get there early for parking. I am staying down the road in Spring at the Super 8, so I will be close anyway, but not within walking distance. It looks like there will be plenty of places to hang before the show. Again, thanks for the info.

Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 20:33:55 ET
Posted by: JO BU, here, there . . . everywhere!


I am a LONG time Steely Dan fan. Been to over 20 SD shows since 1993. 9 in one year. I've seen them in Europe. Have you? I could go on and on but I am not interested.

I made some very good points on my last point when you attempted to "call me out". But, other than being smart alecky, you did not address my salient points. I love the Dan. Best touring band out there. Got that. I have a friend in the band. BUT -- the point remains that the shows could be better. I had people all around me complaining about the items I referenced. There could easily be three more ORIGINAL SD songs if, but only if, WB and DF make that call. Why not make that call. Do we really need the Hey 19 rap over and over? The long band intros? I like the jazz openers, but many fans do not. Would you trade Blue Port for KOTW? Ummm yeah -- 90% of us would. We are there for SD not a Gerry Mulligan cover or a JOE TEX tune.

Why you cannot respond reasonably -- and directly about the issues raised -- is beyond me. It has been 20 years of touring now. Vary the set list. Expand it. GIve us more for our concert dollar. NOT unreasonable.

Jo Bu (and who cares how often I post?)

Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 20:20:01 ET
Posted by: Emmo Deepea, Avoiding the obvious "Johnson" wise-crack

"Johnson" - The guy who would angrily bail on a second date with Jessica Alba because she wore that Fantastic Four bodysuit twice in seven years.

"Dinner, drinks, parking...and she wears the same outfit again! What a waste of money. You have been warned".

Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 18:30:48 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

2006 in San Diego, they played Glamour Profession and Monkey and at least 2 more, as it was a 2 set show without McDonald. Are you sure, you were there "Johnson"

Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 16:40:02 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston shouldn't have a problem hearing the sound check but I'm not so sure if you'll be able to see it. The pavilion has pretty good security around the perimeter and the back area is built up high from street level. I've never tried to get close before a concert so I'm not sure how they'll react to you trying to get a peek. Never know though.

Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 15:40:46 ET
Posted by: Steely Jan, Salt Lake City

Thanks AG

Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 14:28:18 ET
Posted by: anymanleft, Rio Grande

As a follow up to Mike A in Seattle, we also lost another great jazz pianist this week in Cedar Walton. For those who remember or can relate, Cedar was the pianist for the jazz Messengers in the early 60s in a line-up that included Wayne Shorter and Freddie Hubbard. He was a tremendous musician and writer and will surely be missed. That's 3 great jazz pianists who have passed in the past week, or 3 too many...may they all RIP

Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 14:16:42 ET
Posted by: Adorable Ghost, CA

Steely Jan:

Santa Barbara setlist was almost identical to Portland with the exception of Babylon Sisters instead of Home at Last (being a former New Yorker I would have preferred the latter but I'm not complaining!):

Your Gold Teeth
Hey Nineteen
Show Biz Kids
Black Friday
I Got The News
Time Out of Mind
Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More (Walter Sings)
Razor Boy (Female Singers)
Babylon Sisters
I wanna do everything for you (Band Intros)
My Old School
Reelin In The Years
Kid Charlemagne
The Untouchables (outro)

Have a great show Jan!!

Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 11:54:28 ET
Posted by: Tired, of whiners

Johnson--please fuck off forever. Thanks.

Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 11:46:11 ET
Posted by: JOHNSON,

WTF is this rubbish? I saw SD in '06 at Bayside in San Diego. Say then at the Bay last night. It was the same show as it was in '06. What gives? I thought DF had a new cd out. You could have fooled me oh wait I guess that I was fooled by SD. What a waste of money . Never again. You have been warned

Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 10:33:36 ET
Posted by: Steely Jan, Salt Lake City

Any one know the set list last night from San Diego or the night before from Santa Barbara? Heading for Vegas tomorrow.

Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 08:22:44 ET
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Date: Thurs, August 22, 2013, 04:04:24 ET
Posted by: Mike A, Seattle

After listening to Marian McPartland every week for so many years I had to shed a few tears yesterday upon reflection. What a great anchor and sparky soul she was. My wife loved her as well.

And, now I see George Duke is gone. Not sure how I missed that. Anyway, he was very influential during my early days of playing. A huge talent he was !!!!

Both of these artists will leave a large void.

Mike A.

Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 22:58:52 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

The boys were absolutely inspired on Piano Jazz. A classic

May Ms. McPartland RIP. A fine lady.

Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 21:52:14 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

HouDanFan,or any other Houston denizen: What is your experience with listening in on the sound check at Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion? I don't know the configuration, other than it has an outdoor component. In Vegas in 2011, I spoke to a member of the crew on the morning of the show who told me to show up at 3. Security at the Pearl was not amused when they found me wandering around the concourse looking for a way in to the SC! I don't want a repeat of that experience, LOL.

Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 18:16:19 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Buddy, I just heard jazz pianist Cedar Walton died on Monday. While I am certain I have heard his playing on the recordings of others, I can't say I am very familiar with his stuff. May get a chance to check some out tonight (once I'm through combing through the McPartland archives).

In unrelated death notices, RIP Elmore Leonard.

Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 17:04:38 ET
Posted by: Buddy J, Peoria, IL

It's sad that we are losing great jazz artists. George Duke passed away a few weeks ago and now Marian McPartland.

Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 14:24:11 ET
Posted by: Correction, Stevie

Steely Dan on Piano Jazz was broadcast at the end of February into early March 2003, about three months or so before Everything Must Go was released.

The show was recorded in 2002.

Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 14:22:03 ET
Posted by: RIP,


PIANO JAZZ With special guests
Donald Fagen and Walter Becker with Jay Leonhardt on bass and Keith
Carlock on drums
Aired on NPR, U.S. National Public Radio at various times from
February 11-25, 2003


MARIAN McPARTLAND: "Piano Jazz" is made possible by the National
Endowment for the Arts,
the Baldwin Piano Company,Borders Books and Music, the Friends of
"Piano Jazz" and NPR.

[ "Piano Jazz" Chord Progression is played. ]

MM: Hi, I'm Marian McPartland. Today on "Piano Jazz" our guests are the
two master of irony and erudition, STEELY DAN, whose music
encompasses the entire realm of hipness, as well as being melodic,
swinging, sly, subtle, all of those things, a musical Rubix cube, and
they're here today on "Piano Jazz" to sing and play everything from
Aja to Ellington. And its just great to have Donald Fagen and Walter
Becker here, and not only that, we have Keith Carlock on drums and
Jay Leonhart on bass. How are you guys?


WALTER BECKER: Hello there.

MM: Hi. It's great to have you here. Thank you for taking the time
to come over and join us on "Piano Jazz."

WB: Well it's great to be here. Thank you.

MM: Well, I'm thinking of all kinds of things I want to ask you, but
first, I guess we should do a little something so that people can
hear how we're all managing to play together, and Donald or Walter,
what do you think we should start out with?

DF Well, we're thinking of starting with an Ellington tune that
appeared on an album with Coleman Hawkins, kind of a Coleman Hawkins
meets Ellington album and it's called "Limbo Jazz."

MM: That's wonderful, I've never heard of that…is it…is it…I mean
did Duke actually wrote that?

DF: Ummm…yeah, I believe so.

MM: I don't know how I missed it, but I did . But anyway it will be
nice to hear it now. "Limbo Jazz" OK

[ The Steely Dan Quartet plays "Limbo Jazz." ]

MM: You know I thought I knew so many Duke Ellington tunes and
that's one that's escaped me. I'm really thankful to know that is
there yet is another tune to add to our repertoire.

DF: Yeah that's a good one. I don't remember it being on any other
album except that "Coleman Halwkins Meets Ellington" album. It's a
good tune.

MM: Well you were very big at picking up albums, weren't you? When
you were a teenager you must have heard a lot of stuff besides
Duke…and Walter too.

WB: You know when Donald I met at College, we discovered that by
looking at one another's record collections that we had been
listening to the same jazz radio station which was-jazz radio show I
should say-that was Mort Fega's show on WEVD that…

MM: Ohhhhh Mort Fega! Yeah, down in Florida…

WB: Yeah…that's right and we had the same basic repertoire as
listeners and those were the days when you could get three albums for
five dollars sometimes, you know, and we had a few of them.

MM: But it's so amazing…how did the actual writing of songs grow out
of that? Or did you both learn to play? Did you take guitar lessons
and piano lessons?

DF: I'm mostly self-taught. I took scattered piano lessons and then
had some theory in College and so on, but…and in the summer at the
Berkeley School in Boston. But I think both of us are pretty much

MM: And you both went to Bard…did you?

WB: That's right Bard College in New York State. That was our Alma
Mater And when I got there, I discovered that there was …I figured
that the place would be crawling with musicians, but it turned out
there was only a handful and Donald was in all of the bands (MM
starts laughing) of all the different styles of music.

DF: I would crawl between, from one band to another.

WB: He was crawling from one band to another and I figured I should
join up with him, you know?

MM: (rather amused) You'd be playing Dixieland
one day and Bee Bop the next…

DF: That sort of thing, although, more likely it would be some sort
of avante garde, you know you know, "fake-it" type of a band.

WB: Yeah, you know actually the first time I think I saw you perform
you were playing…was it "The Star Spangled Banner" or "God Bless
America" on an alto saxophone…

DF: Yeah…

WB: …and you had on a leather jacket with black feathers attached to it…

DF: Yeah. And you know that was before Jimmy Hendrix was playing his
version of the "Star Spangled Banner" so…

MM: (expressed with sincerity) Well that sounds like a good
beginning…I hope there are some
pictures of that. (Then everyone starts to laugh a bit.)

DF; Probably not…

WB: (holding back some laughter in his voice) Sadly. If there were,
we would have bought them up long ago.

MM: You know what I would love to know is how did you to start to
write songs and…where did that come from?

DF: Well, we met at school and realized that we had a lot of the
same interests in jazz and also other things and literature…and
humor…and we both had been science fiction fans and I think a lot
of…sort of a package of things…of a certain subculture…we used to be
interested in the early 60s.

WB: Yeah, we felt we were somewhere in the middle of the rich
mainstream of the cultural zeitgeist. Of course, as time went on we
were disabused of that notion, but there was a lot of stuff in the
late 60s, a lot of cultural energy involving humor, and…sort

MM: Well, you certainly have plenty of that.

WB: Yeah…and we thought that why not combine all of these things,
jazz, science fiction, humor, and…am I leaving anything out?

DF: Rhythm and blues.

WB …rhythm and blues…

( MM laughs )

WB: …really…and rock and roll in one package and then

MM: Well it certainly all came together, didn't it? Goodness.

WB: Eventually it did. We had a little problem in the beginning
with our songs being sorta too funny for their own good. Our early
efforts were sort of, as I recall…

DF: they were just too hilarious…

MM: You were just too hip…that's the problem…you were just too hip
for the times.

WB: Too hip for the room…

DF: They were so funny…we were laughing so hard we couldn't even
demonstrate them to anyone.

WB: That's right.

MM: Well, have those gone by…are you including them in your present…

DF: Most of them never made it to an actual professional recording.
There's some demos floating around but…

MM: Boy, I'd love to hear those…

DF: Mmmmm…

MM: Meanwhile, what have we got up? I want to hear more…I'm dying to
hear more of something.

WB: Yeah…what's…

MM: What's…Donald, you seem to be…

WB: …what's it gonna be?

DF: O.K. We're going to do a tune. This is off our album, "Aja."
Were going to try to do it with a small band, but an excellent band,
so we're going to give it a shot. It's called "Josie."

MM: o.k…

[ The Steely Dan Quartet performs "Josie." ]

MM: You know someone made the remark that all your lyrics are like
poetry. I sorta go along with that. I mean some of the things you

DF: Well, thanks…

MM: …are…it's much more fun reading that than Edna Vincent Malay, I
can tell you. ( WB starts laughing. )

DF: She also wrote dirty poems though.

MM: Oh, see? I didn't…

DF: That's one thing we have in common.

MM: I didn't put any of those to music…

WB: She just didn't have a rhythm section like we did.

DF: Yeah…

MM: Not like the one you have…WOW! And that tune, "Josie," the
intro…I'll just have to take that and copy it down because that is
like a tune all in itself. I mean…

DF: Thanks.

MM: No…I'm interested in how does the writing go…does somebody write
something and then the other person says , "Yeah that sounds good…"

DF: Pretty much. We get together in a room and start playing and
when one of us will have an idea…usually for melody and lyrics or
sometimes both.

MM: Yeah, that's what I wondered…like some of the songs…it seems
like the melody had to kind of wriggle in there sometimes, like the

WB: Yeah.

MM: You know what I mean? It isn't like it's 4/4 time or anything,
but it's amazing how everything works…everything…

DF: Well, I think that's true. That's one of the hardest things is
to…you have to kind of pry the music open and shove the lyrics in
sometimes… (MM and then WB start laughing).

WB: We sorta decided at some point that we were gonna try and write
these little stories, little short story kind of things for the
lyrics for these songs so as not to write the same kind of pop songs
over and over again. And sometimes we'll have a great idea for the
thing and then when you sit down to actually do it, there's very few
syllables to do it in. So we occasionally end up with some things
where there's a lot of words and a few notes…

DF: Sometimes we have to sacrifice the linear narrative just to get
the idea. So sometimes it seems like a story with some pieces

WB: But most of our fans have done the same analogous thing to their
brains and psyches over the years so…

MM: You mean they just absorb the thing the way it is…

DF: Their receptors have been sculpted.

WB: That's right…

MM: Well, that's the best way if they are listening to your
thing…(DF + WB start to laugh.)

Well there's more to come with Donald Fagen and Walter Becker. And
on bass, Jay Leonhart and on drums Keith Carlock. Our program is
made possible in part by a grant from the National Endowment for the
Arts. I'm Marian McPatland and this is "Piano Jazz" from NPR.

[ "Piano Jazz" chord progression is played. ]

MM: Well, being that you like Duke Ellington so much, it wouldn't be
a bad idea if we did a Duke tune together, What do you think?

DF: How about "Mood Indigo?"

MM: I just happen to love that tune (laughs slightly).

DF: Yeah, me too.

MM: So I think it would make a nice duet. And…shall I start it?

DF: Go ahead.

MM: o.k…

[ DF and MM perform "Mood Indigo." ]

MM: How do you learn those Ellington tunes-off a record? You don't
bother with sheet music, I'm sure.

DF: Sometimes, but…I don't know…just off records mostly…the way I
think most jazz musicians actually probably get tunes off (records).

MM: That's funny I was lucky. I had a …Years ago in England, I had
a boyfriend who started out with my sister, but she wasn't interested
in jazz so he switched to me, and (WB starts laughing) that's how I
got to learn all these Duke Ellington tunes…thousands of records,
so…but you (or does MM say "Duke"?) picked a really good one with
"Mood Indigo." I think It's a beautiful tune.

DF: Yeah, there's a version I really like by Charles Mingus…and The
Mingus Dynasty album where John Handy plays it, the alto lead. It's
really nice.

MM: Boy, you are into all of those things, aren't you. Are you
still now buying more jazz records or…

DF: (I) just buy the same ones over and over (MM and WB start laughing).

MM: And Walter, who's your favorite guitar player?

WB: (with a touch of hesitancy) I don't if I really…most of the
guitar players that…

MM: Well, SOME guitar player…

WB: Just name one huh? (laughing, and then speaking more quickly and
withj enthusiasm.) Well, my favorite guitar player I think is probably
Grant Green, Charlie Christian. Grant Green, you know…certainly
Jim Hall is a great, great player but there's something about Grant
Green had that swinging single note style…(inaudible)

MM: And well you know Tom Farlowe Of course I can't hear that
anymore. I would love to hear you and Tom Farlowe play a duet.

WB: Wow. Yeah well…

MM: Or you and Jim Hall. That could happen.

WB: That's within the realm of the possible.

MM: Ohhh…I'll have to set that one up…have to set that up.

MM: Well, it has fallen to my lot to play a solo piece and I don't
know if I can carry this off with you guys sitting around but maybe
you have a tune you could suggest. That you would like to hear or

DF: Well…how about "Star Eyes?"

MM: That's a great tune. I haven't played that in a long time. I
could probably Yes! I don't know. There's something nice
about…that makes me feel good about doing a tune somebody has
requested. I don't know why that is. Why is that.

DF: Well one thing, just the fact that you can play a request is a
great victory (MM starts laughing)

WB: That's right…

DF: …as far as I'm concerned…

MM: You know you're taking it for granted that I can actually play
it We'll find that out in a minute or two…

DF: (Inaudibles)

WB: That's right…


[ MM performs "Star Eyes."]

DF: Star Eyes. Where did you learn that song?

MM: Oh…probably like you learned yours…off a record or sitting in
with somebody.

DF: Mmm-Mm.

MM: You know, it's got that nice intro which I thought about
afterwards [plays part of intro].

DF: Right.

MM: You know. I thought, "Well I can't put that in somehow. It's too late."

DF: Yeah, I remember that there's a version…a famous Charlie Parker version…

MM: Sure…

DF: …that's the one I knew.

MM: That's probably the definitive version.

DF: Yeah

WB: Every song that Charlie Parker ever played is pretty much the
definitive version.

DF: Petty much, pretty much…

MM: Yeahhh…

WB: …tends to be how I…

MM: …I was pretty lucky to meet him during a few of his saner moments…

WB: Wow…

MM: …more…when he was playing really well. Yeah, it's nice to think
about that.

MM: Well, there's more in a minute. My guests are Donald Fagen and
Walter Becker with Jay Leonhart on bass and Keith Carlock on drums.
Our program is made possible in part by the Baldwin Piano Company,
manufacturers of the pianos heard on "Piano Jazz." I'm Marian
McPartland and this is "Piano Jazz" from NPR.

[ "Piano Jazz" chord progression is played. ]

-----Break-----and then part ii------

[ "Piano Jazz" chord progression is played. ]

MM: So many things to ask you. Some of those songs…like "Gaslighting
Annie." I have to ask…

DF: "Abbie."

MM: Yes.

DF: Yeah, right.

MM: I have to ask. What's it mean? It's terrible but…(MM laughs, WB
starts to laugh)

DF: Well, to "gaslight…"

MM: Yeah, that's the one…

DF: …is a verb that comes from the film, "Gaslight" where Charles
Boyer tries to drive his wife crazy by doing little pranks like move
her jewels from one place to another…

MM: …turn the lights down…

WB: The lights were always going down…

DF: So she would think she was going insane.

MM: I saw that film…

DF: Right so if you are gaslighting someone…I noticed in the 80s…if
you go back to the 80s there was a lot of …someone's girlfriend would
say to their boyfriend, "Hey, you're gaslighting me…"

MM: Oh…boy. There's something new for my vocabulary.

DF: There it is.

MM: I thought it was kind of not hip to ask (WB starts laughing) but
couldn't help asking…

WB: The question has come up before.

DF: Yeah…

MM: I suppose it has…but now is that one of those songs where you had
the idea. Did you start writing something and then you…I don't know…

WB: You know, I'm thinking, I seem to remember that we had the music
for that and we had this sort of icy sounding chorus and then we
added a verse to it and it was sort of a infectious, funk type of
verse free-form thing.

MM: It was…

WB: So somehow that lead us to the idea of "the gaslighting theme" (inaudible)

DF: Sometimes you get a cue from the music what the song is
about…when you write…and the atmosphere that it creates…it will give
you the idea as to what the actual story is going to be.

MM: Well you know I would love to keep asking you things, but I guess
it would be nice to play something. What have you got up your sleeve
this time…

DF: Well, we were thinking of doing a classic jazz piece which I'm
familiar with the version by Louis Armstrong. It was on an album
called "Satch Plays W.C. Handy" and it's called "Hesitation Blues."

MM: Oh Yeah. Yeah. OK. That would be great! Are you going to sing it…

DF: I'm going to try…

MM: …in a Satch-like banter….

DF: Oh definitely not…no…

MM: OK. I better bring out the handkerchief…

DF: Yeah.


[ Steely Dan Quartet playes "Hesitation Blues." ]

MM: It's funny. That is one tune by Louis, I'm not that familiar with
it. It's really good to hear it. He would have loved that.

DF: Oh…well…I don't know about that, but…

MM: Oh, he would.

DF: He's so great, I don't really… you know it's hard to put myself
in the same business (inaudible) because I just think he's fantastic.

MM: But you know it's nice to hear that song done in this day and
age. I mean usually, you don't…you might hear a Louis record but
doing it you don't hear somebody else doing it which is kinda nice I

DF: Mmmmmm…yeah

WB: It's a style of blues that's been eclipsed by other styles.

DF: That's true. It's sort of more, I guess, Memphis area style of
singing the blues, or Delta blues style. Probably dominates rock
music, you know, more than sort of a jazz-style of singing the blues.

MM: That's funny, I never really gone into it but to me that is like
a classic blues…

DF: Uh huh

WB: Mmmmm

MM: …and um and just hearing it makes me think about him and what a
what a joy he was.

DF: When did you first meet Louis Armstrong?

MM: When Jimmy…McPartland, my husband, he was showing me the delights
of Broadway, I guess this was maybe '45 when we got back from Europe.
Louis was playing in a place called "The Aquarium" on Broadway and
the door was open and Louis hollered out or something, "HEY,
MAC-Partland!" He always called Jimmy "MAC-Partland." So he says,
"Come on in." So we went in and so that's how I met Louis and found
friends ever since. Listen, don't stop me or I could babble away

DF: No, it's great…

MM: Anyway, somebody asked me, How…you've made such a tremendous
success with your music. I mean do you think it's changed-the music
at all…doing things differently from the way you did…Does it keep
changing? Are you…

WB: I think that it's all changed. It's evolved a little bit. I mean
I think we're fundamentally we are still doing the same thing or
trying to do the same thing that we were trying to do at the
beginning and we've just refined our method a little bit, for better
or worse, depending on how things come out on some particular day.
But I think it's pretty much the same idea that we had back in the

MM: Of course what's wonderful, and I wish we could have done that
here was to have all those people like Chris Potter and the back up
singers. That is a big part of what you do. And the wonderful jazz
interludes that come, either between verses or at the end of a tune.

WB: Yeah.

MM: Like "West Hollywood," I forget the title…

WB: "West of Hollywood."

DF: "West of Hollywood."

MM: "West of Hollywood." (At) the end of that there's the most
wonderful jazz with Chris Potter, a whole bunch.

DF + WB: Yeah… Uh huh…

MM: Oh! That is terrific! Anyway…

DF: Funny. The idea of structure like that. The way we structure the
arrangements. I think more and more we've been going back to
Ellington and even Jelly Roll Morton as far as…they had an
interesting way of …it wasn't just verse/chorus…they had little
breaks…all kinds of little embellishments and they (had) written out
sections that really made tunes better.

MM: (It's) like having that Ellington piece, "East St Louis
Toodle-OO." (MM trips up a touch on the title.) I mean things like
that, I think it's great for the younger people to hear. They would
probably never hear those otherwise.

DF: Yeah, right. Well, a lot of people think we wrote "East St. Louis
Toodle-OO" and but it was Duke Ellington, of course, and we were just
glad to get to play it.

MM: Well I hope you'll do more. Meanwhile, you and I are going to
play two pianos, aren't we Donald.

DF: Yeah, and speaking of Ellington, we're going to do a tune
(called) "Things Aren't What They Used to Be."

MM: You know Mercer wrote this one.

DF: Oh, is that a Mercer song?

MM: Well, what happened , they were doing a record date-maybe you
know this-and Duke called up Mercer and said," We just need one more
tune, quick, write something and come down here.

DF: I didn't know that. That's interesting.

MM: And he did. That's what happened (chuckles).

DF: It's a good one.

MM: Oh, Mercer had a lot of interesting things to say. And so, let's
do the tune.

[ MM & DF duet on the piano for "Things Aren't What They Used to Be." ]

MM: Well, I thought we did a great job with "Things Aren't What They
Used to Be," don't you?

DF: I liked it.

MM: I love that…

DF: It's very inspiring…

MM: It's funny, I never get tired of that thing. I sorta like to use
it myself with the Trio as a sign-off tune. (DF saying something in
the background). Duke always did this…you know, I always like to do
what Duke did, including stick my foot out and use my left foot on
the pedal. (Faint laughter from WB). That's sounds silly but seemed
good at the time. Well I should ask you…(inaudible) what's new? What
are the new things coming out? Is there something you are working on?

DF: Yes, we have been working on an album which at the time we're
speaking right now has no title yet, but…we've been recording it in
Manhattan, through the summer.

MM: Well, if I know you, or either one of you, will come up with some
outrageous title. (MM & WB start laughing.) Well, there's more coming
up. My guests are Donald Fagen and Walter Becker with Jay Leonhart on
bass and Keith Carlock on drums. Our program is made possible in part
by the Friends of "Piano Jazz." I'm Marian McPartland and this is
"Piano Jazz" from NPR.

[ "Piano Jazz" chord progression is played. ]

MM: This next tune is to be "Chain Lightning?"

DF: That's right. This was a tune from an album called "Katy Lied"
which came out in about '74 or '75.

MM: I don't think I have that one but I shall probably collect it.
O.K. The idea of this one…I even get to play on this…don't I?

WB: Yes, you do.

MM: That's great.

[ The Steely Dan Quartet and MM perform "Chain Lightning." ]

MM: You know that… "Chain Lightning. That's just another way of doing
the blues, isn't it?

DF: Yes, it doesn't go exactly where you think it's going to go. But
it's basically a blues.

MM: But there are so many variations, it's nice to hear another one.

DF: Yeah, blues is an amazing form in that you can…I think part of
what makes it great is that you have certain expectations, that it's
going to do something fairly simple and then if you give it one
little twist it makes it interesting…

MM: Yeah, you say "See, it didn't go where you thought it was going to go…"

DF: Yeah, exactly. It's kind of a "nyah, nyah" kind of thing.

MM: (with a little laughter in her voice) Yeah, exactly. You know,
this is so wonderful, I hate to quit. Unfortunately, we only have
time for one more tune. But I just LOVED having you guys on the show,

DF: Oh thanks …it's great being here.

WB: Yes, you're a great hostess.

MM: Well…thank you…and you both are great guests, Walter and Donald.
I guess you got something planned to wind up with.

DF: Yeah, we though in honor of the stock market which at the time of
our recording (MM lets out a slight laugh) is going through some
interesting thrills and chills…we're going to do a tune called "Black
Friday" which is of course the Friday that the stocks crashed in 1929.

MM: That sounds…it should be pretty interesting. Let's play…or you
will…I get to play an E?

DF: You can just hit an E once in a while.

MM: That's fine. That suits me fine.

DF: It'll work out.

MM: O.K.

DF: Or any note of your choice, really…

MM: (laughing) O.K. That's what I like about this music. (WB laughing
in background) Everything fits.

DF: Me too.

[ The Steely Dan Quartet and MM perform "Black Friday." ]

MM: That was cool.

[ "Piano Jazz" chord progression is played and continues to play in
an extended outro while MM begins to say the following: ]

MM: My guests today on "Piano Jazz" have been Donald Fagen and Walter
Becker with Jay Leonhart on bass and Keith Carlock on drums. I'm
Marian McPartland inviting you to join me again next week. "Piano
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Production assistant is David Lyon. Executive producer is Elaine
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[ End ]


Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 11:04:29 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

RIP Marian McPartland. Been listening to her for a long time and was thrilled when she had SD on the show. Nice treat.

A class act who will be missed.

Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 10:32:40 ET
Posted by: Stevie Dan, Philadelphia, PA


Thanks for the Marian McPartland death notice. What a talented piano player and radio host. Loved listing to her show.

For anyone interested, Donald and Walter were on her show Piano Jazz in 2005.

Set List for Steely Dan on Piano Jazz
Limbo Jazz (D. Ellington)
Josie (Fagen/Becker)
Mood Indigo (D. Ellington)
Star Eyes (De Paul/Raye)
Hesitation Blues (WC Handy)
Things Ain't the Way They Used to Be (M. Ellington)
Chain Lightning (Fagen/Becker)
Black Friday (Fagen/Becker)

Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 10:02:09 ET
Posted by: VegasSteve, On the road

Don't you know there's fire in the hole,
And nothing left to burn!

Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 09:04:42 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Boston Aja Night tickets: purchased. My heart is as full as my bank account is empty.

Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 07:32:10 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago

RIP, Marian McPartland.

"...what a rhythm section she had..."

Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 06:55:34 ET
Posted by: Stanley Dee, Herts, UK

For any UK Dan fans feeling left-out by the current touring schedule, we would love to see you at one of our future gigs.
It'll be an evening of wall-to-wall Dan (and Fagen) tunes, and may just help you fill that pretzel-shaped hole in your lives until the guys make it to our shores again!
Would be cool to hear from anyone and maybe catch you at a gig sometime. We might even break out the hats 'n' hooters...


Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 02:34:38 ET
Posted by: razorboy666, austin

In Charlie Freak, there seems an element of remorse, of guilt and burden, the result of having taken advantage of someone down and out. Or whatever. And those gorgeous triplets weighing Charlie�s soul on the protagonist�s conscience...

Can�t wait for 8/28.

Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 01:52:21 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, very tired....

Yes, that's right. The screeeeeeeching, cornball, plagiarized, bloated musings of Rush are more "profound" than the collective writings of DF & WB. Good call, dood.

I hereby agree to agree, but only on the condition that my statement ends the hole [sic] "RUSH" thing. Y'know, before we get into a more protracted debate about the relative merits of various oh-so-very-earnest pretend musicians/acts so goddamned stupid that they defy description.


ps - "RUSH"
pps - Aerosmith [Sorry, low-grade-Stones-imitation-act fans]
ppps - Journey [Aw....c'mon....they totally ROCK, dude!]
pppps - "RUSH"
ppppps - personal pet peeves
pppppps - The Black-Eyed Pees [Sorry, The Dean]
ppppppps - "RUSH" [Again with the RUSH?]
pppppppps - [insert your own "I can't stand 'em" act here]
ppppppppps - "RUSH"
pppppppppps - Semi-cool fake-Mayan Pyramid effect

Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 01:51:30 ET
Posted by: Mike A, Seattle

What a complete AHole "a silver lining" is. That post was pure dog shit.

On another note, I saw a Steely Dan in Seattle who were truly better than ever. It's amazing how they continue to grow as players. Especially Jon, Walter, and Don. That's no slight on the rest of the band though. They remain awesome.

As for the venue, last Thursday in Redmond, the sound was the best I have seen in several tours. Everything was discrete , with nice seperation, and balance. Only complaint was the curfew which limited the encore to one song. Audience and band had a fantastic exchange once the show got rolling. Typical for Seattle.....

It was fun to see everyone once again!

On to Vegas!!!!!!!

Mike A

Date: Wed, August 21, 2013, 00:33:56 ET
Posted by: Krazy Kat, Mizar 5

Wow.. intense lyrics --
What exactly do they mean to you?

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 22:42:35 ET
Posted by: razorboy666, austin

Yes Jack, I gave it back
The ring I could not own
Now come my friend I�ll take your hand
And lead you home

I love Steely Dan!

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 22:22:11 ET
Posted by: T. Sawyer, In 2 Rush

Consider this:

"When you choose not to choose, YOU have made a choice."

Words to live by and as profound, maybe more, than anything put out by DF and WB.

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 20:56:48 ET
Posted by: razorboy666, austin

ps: Rush Limbaugh stinks out loud. Whatever that might have to do with anything.

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 19:34:01 ET
Posted by: Guint,

Make that way TOO f$%@#*g long. Sorry...

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 19:32:00 ET
Posted by: R Guint ,

OMG WB goes on waaaaaaaaaaaaay to fucking long in that Hey 8 and 8ths spiel! He's good at extemporizing but fuck, edit yourself Waltham!

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 18:51:08 ET
Posted by: Ric, NW

Somebody posted a while back about the backup singers documentary. Here's one coming about Muscle Shoals.

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 18:44:32 ET
Posted by: steve, san francisco

I first saw Steely Dan in 1973, and loved it/them. Then went again on Saturday nite here in SF. Forty years later, they seemed to be having a great time onstage and sounded fantastic, even funny; the best musicians money can buy, tight arrangements (of course) - some tweaked just enough to make it fresh, the sound was great, the climate was perfect, the setting beautiful, happy people were dancing in the bleachers, the setlist was varied and wonderful, and we got tickets for $30 online the day before (there were plenty). I can't imagine what anybody who was there would have to complain about. But that's human nature, I guess. I'd go again in a heartbeat.

ps: Rush stinks out loud. Whatever that might have to do with anything.

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 17:59:32 ET
Posted by: Eazy E, Athens

Skunk Baxter sure is an odd cat. He played on Steely Dan's first three albums, then went on to join the Doobie Brothers and wound up as some kind of missile defense consultant. He pops up now and then on the Fox News channel. I don't know what his relationship with Donald is these days, but my guess is they haven't spoken to each other in years.

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 17:37:53 ET
Posted by: Eric, Portland, OR

It used to bother me that people complained about static setlists... Now I just feel bad for those complaining. It must be miserable to not be happy going to a Steely Dan show (if you are a fan). I would wish everyone that goes to be happy. I think also of those overseas that may never get to see them. I am certainly not critical of those who complain, but I wish all of you who are unhappy that you may find good cheer somewhere along the way. There is a lot to be had.

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 16:12:47 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, waiting patiently

Here's 19 from Reno. The band could play another 3 songs instead of Walter's monologue. Funny stuff interjected of course including the why so much for tickets bit, but really? 11+ minutes for Hey 19??

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 11:05:41 ET
Posted by: the skunk,

There's a rumor going around that Jeff "the Skunk" Baxter is waiting in the wings. Lets see what happens

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 10:40:00 ET
Posted by: Penny in Fla, Space Coast

Hey, hoping to touch base with some of the folks I tailgate-partied with, a few years ago at Jones Beach. I brought the desserts!

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 10:34:09 ET
Posted by: ,

Musicianship & setlist are tight this year. The time is ripe for a live album!

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 09:27:27 ET
Posted by: a silver lining,

While I would never wish Walt or the vast majority of people ill health or whatevah there is an upside.

If Walt does go down, Don surely will continue to tour with Dukes or whomever.

Then we will get solo Fagen, which is what will satisfy many of the SD fans myself included.

With this static setlist of the past seven years wearing thin, and if you still want to sell some tickets, how about a solo Fagen show with some SD hits sprinkled in?

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 09:09:23 ET
Posted by: J Padren , UK

The Dean -

Where does the following say WB never takes a solo?:

"Yes WB has a great, no-risk (for the most part)easy gig. No question. He never does the guitar duet sections or leads in any songs. He hardly ever sings any leads, either. Yes, Walter should love this gig."

Date: Tues, August 20, 2013, 00:33:56 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Since my accidently (I hope) deleted post from last night didn't make it back, I will summarize and add another comment or two. (Not that it really was worth reposting.)

Alex, as to why SD plays some songs at sound check that don't make it to the setlist--well, I'm not sure anyone here has the definitive answer. It could be that Don simply still doesn't think the song is audience-ready or doesn't like the way the band is playing it that night. Perhaps they use the sound check for rehearsal time for songs they are thinking about playing later in the tour. While I'd love to hear some of these songs played during the concert, if Don doesn't want to play them, they aren't getting played. And I wouldn't have it any other way.

M/O/D/P (have we ever been told what that stands for)...that's some serious serious penance you have doled out for me. I was so freaked out I had Black Eyed Peas nightmares last night. Woke up with my ears bleeding.

Casual Fan---Kid Bodhisattva? Wow, what a great setlist you have developed. Nice catch. I couldn't even bring myself to comment on the video.

So Walter never takes a solo? Really? When did that start? He's taken multiple solos at every show I have attended. I'll lay big odds he does so again on this tour.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 23:06:34 ET
Posted by: hoops, Typed on a smart phone

CJB. The script to the blue book is so old that I have to do special stuff to pop the hood, so to speak, to figure out who is who. So it's not easily done and it's not something I do often except when Absolutely necessary. If you think Someone is messing with us let me know and I'll consider Investigating I P numbers. Thank you.


Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 21:24:33 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

Hey, Hoops, do the UK, Des Moines, various "CA" locales & Brooklyn all share the same IP address?

They sure share the same didactic writing style!

Inquiring minds, & etc.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 21:03:23 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

I'd be interested in hearing from anyone going to the Clearwater, FL show who is trying to sell 2 tickets.
I had a contact who was to get me the tickets but he dropped out.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 20:52:50 ET
Posted by: J. Padren, UK

Yes WB has a great, no-risk (for the most part)easy gig. No question. He never does the guitar duet sections or leads in any songs. He hardly ever sings any leads, either. Yes, Walter should love this gig.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 20:51:32 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

Nice article from

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 20:48:59 ET
Posted by: Jocko, Des Moines

It's amazing that weight gain has never affected The Rolling Stones. Mick, Keith, Ron and Charlie have always been thin and skinny.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 20:27:41 ET
Posted by: Greco,

I'm going to put a positive vibe on this board . Back in 1996 I was tailgating at the Marcus amphitheater. Eating some "brownies" and they did a sound check., Guess what song they played ? Donf take me aljve First I wasn't sure . I thought maybe it was the Brownies . My friends never heard the song but some other tailgaters confirmed it was dont take me alive . In a million years I would have.never guessed they even knew that song let alone play it ! The who didn't play it but the sound technicians did without vocals


Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 20:17:25 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

Lots of people on here at the moment with thoughts about weight. I have some too:

1. People gain weight for lots of reasons, health issues among them. Sometimes meds make people gain weight, sometimes it's lifestyle, sometimes genes. Regardless of the cause, it's nobody's business but the individual's, and people, even anonymous folks on an internet chat forum, need to respect that, just as most decent people do out in the non-internet so-called "real world."

2. Some people are using "weight gain" as shorthand for concern for Walter's health. In Boise, Walter looked quite pale, and walked slowly and shakily. As a fan of the band, and, by default, as someone with amorphous & free-floating concern for him as an individual (because I would like to think of someone whose art I admire as at least as happy & healthy as me, if not moreso), I worried about him. But his playing was spot-on and his voice & humor and general temperament was pretty upbeat, too, despite some obvious physical difficulties. I was reminded of seeing William S. Burroughs in YVR in 1986; WSB had to helped on stage and looked like death warmed over. But his mind & voice & delivery had not aged at all. This taught an important lesson to 16 year old me).

3. In Seattle Walter looked great, stood all night, and, once again, played well, and visibly happily.

4. I hope I get to see DF & Walter play for many, many years to come. As I've said before, when I started listening to their music in the mid 80s, I never thought I would ever get to see them play live, let alone have new SD & both solo albums at infrequent intervals. Their continued presence on the scene is a very real gift to me, whatever trolls from Brooklyn or various points in "CA" have to say about it.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 19:45:00 ET
Posted by: Gene, Brooklyn NY

I guess that must be the reason for Walter's weight gain. He does very little on stage.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 19:06:14 ET
Posted by: R. California,

I don't mean to be disrespectful toward Walter but, of "the 2", he's got an easier gig. He never plays any duet soli sections (as in "Bodhi" in the below video or in "Reelin'") or leads. He basically plays some chord changes and noodles aimlessly on most solos and sings lead very infrequently.

WB loves this gig.:) Who wouldn't?

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 18:47:28 ET
Posted by: Kirk , NorCal

Ref below: "our butts."

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 18:44:17 ET
Posted by: Kirk, NorCal

I'm sort of afraid to say that the Reno set list was the same as the SF set list--the set list police will jump all over it. Frankly, I'm quite happy listening to whatever the boys want to play. The SF show was a good one, but as Walter noted, we were freezing out butts off. The America's Cup Amphitheater is a lovely location, but I didn't think the acoustics were the greatest.

The woman seated behind me announced that she was a big fan of Steely Don. This might be a clue to who typically attends SD concerts. They are casual fans who maybe have been to one or two concerts, and are there to hear what amounts to a greatest hits set list.

Acoustics in Reno were much better, consequently I enjoyed the show more. The crowd seemed more involved than in SF. Possibly due to less marihuana consumption.

Other random observations:
Don's voice does seem stronger this tour, though he did mention having a summer cold. Couldn't tell by his performance.
Walter is using more guitars than in the past.
I enjoy Walter's singing and his monologues. Let's face it, neither Walter or Donald are Pavarotti, but their voices fit the requirements of the music. Walter's monologues invariably are well-received by the audiences, and give us an insight to his personality. While Walter is delivering the monologue, Donald is hunched over his keyboard playing background, and giving every sign of enjoying the moment.
Didn't think Razor Boy worked very well with the "Brats" doing the duties. They're great singers, but don't think this one worked as well as other solos they've done.
They (not the Brats) serve pizza during the show at the Reno Events Center. The couple next to me disappeared for about ten minutes, and when they returned it was with a few large slices of pizza. Kind of like being at a Giants game I guess. At least she didn't say anything about really liking Steely Don.

Wish I could go to the SoCal concerts, regardless of what the set list is.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 18:44:14 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

I guess I come down on the side of "why are they here?" Peg, Josie, etc... they are called hits for a reason. If it weren't for those songs, we wouldn't be here right now having this discussion. If you don't want to hear "Peg," why in the fuck are you going to a Steely Dan concert?

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 18:26:17 ET
Posted by: hoops,

I don't agree. He did put on some weight, as he himself acknowledged a couple of years ago. "Does guitar make me look fat?" He's 63 years old which is approaching senior citizen status. Donald gets to sit for 80% of the show--WB mostly stands, although maybe someone said he uses a stool sometime. Whatever. Blah blah blah blah. Fact is, he wouldn't tour if he were unable to. Rest is his private business, if there's anything to be private.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 18:11:33 ET
Posted by: JMurro,

Jim -

WB looks bloated and seems somewhat disengaged/distracted?

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 17:58:25 ET
Posted by: haspro, Lancaster, PA

After 20 years of marriage I am finally getting my chance to see Steely Dan Live in Boston for the Aja and Greatest Hits performances. I really don't care about the set lists as one song will fulfill a long-time fantasy. Been to many concerts but none where the music can carry me where SD music does. Fortunate enough to score row 5 and 1 pairs respectively but since recently single, have no companion. Any suggestions on finding a true SD fan -preferably female- who will make the concert as enjoyable for me as I've always envisioned? Not looking for an "escort" but for perhaps a forum where I might meet a true fan to share the experience with?

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 17:26:31 ET
Posted by: Jimbo, Torrance CA

Last Tuesday I saw The Monkees at the Terrace Theater in Long Beach. The setlist was very good and didn't rely heavily on the hits. Now that Mike Nesmith is back, they played "The Door into Summer" which long time Monkees fans have been wanting to hear for years. Almost everybody stood up and sang along.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 17:20:33 ET
Posted by: Greco,

Oh well no reason to beat this dead horse. A few people agree with me. I'll take it. Nothing we say or do is going to change Don & Walt. To those of you who like the set list, I'm sure you will enjoy the show. Us "maybe who are in the minority" feel left out. I wanted to see SD for my umpteenth time but I cant sit though the set list. It is what it is. I'm done with this topic.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 17:07:24 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

Well first of all, FM is definitely a "hit." It made it to #22 on the billboard charts, which is fairly high for SD singles. It was played consistently on tours until 2008 I believe and has been played since then, just not as often.

Secondly, they still played Peg, Hey Nineteen, Josie, Kid Charlemagne, My Old School, and Bodhisattva at most every 2000 show I'm pretty sure. Might also be the case with Green Earrings.

Third, they opened up every 2000 show with The Boston Rag, just like they're doing this year with Your Gold Teeth. If you're going to make an argument that their setlists are repetitive and static now, that was also the case in 2000.

Fourth, I'd argue that Show Biz Kids, Your Gold Teeh Time Out of Mind, Godwhacker, and Razor Boy as just as much "deep cuts" as Night By Night, Glamour Profession, The Boston Rag, The Royal Scam, and Don't Take Me Alive.

Fifth, they were touring for the money in 2000 too, especially since they were touring to promote their new album, which was the first SD studio album released since 1980. They've always been touring for money. But let's not forget Donald Fagen's quote (paraphrasing) - we're not as invulnerable to audience response as we like to think. So that very quote means they are conscious of audience response, and try to play a setlist that will appease fans. And as far as "for the music," I can't speak to how into playing their own music Donald Fagen and Walter Becker are, but I will say I imagine there are very few shows that bring about the musical quality and professionalism of an SD show. I don't know what else you can ask for in terms of music.

But the entire argument about money is ridiculous. Basically, the argument is that somehow playing the setlist they're playing means that they're doing it for money? Last I heard, SD gets paid whatever they get paid to play at a show regardless of setlist, and ticket prices are whatever the venue/vendor sets the price of the ticket as regardless of setlist.

And if you want to say they play the same setlist over and over again, that's fair to say. But if you followed the setlist to every show in 1993, 1994, 1996, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2011, you would get more or less the same show per year for every show that year. That's just what they're comfortable doing. And they've always been that way. But it shouldn't mean that the music isn't good or they don't care about what the fans want to hear.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 16:34:31 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Greco makes a good point. It is weird that as SD's audience has become more "selective" (to steal a line from Ian Faith), they have shortened up on the stroke. Twenty years ago saw several Walter songs, all sorts of solo material, and two sets.

To be fair, though, the 2013 set is a set full of deep cuts. It's just deep cuts we've heard quite a few times before. I didn't really think about the novelty end of things -- in 1993 and 1994 you had the return, in 2000 you had the first album in two decades, so these shows really are playing to a larger percent of the diehards than you'd think. And younger fans, because the level of derision toward Steely Dan amongst 18-to-35 is nowhere near what was there 20 or even 13 years ago.

As far as Walter singing? I love it, and I also love the arrangements. Would not care in the slightest if he sang two or three more songs in a SD set. The only thing that ruins it for me is looking at all the people around me that are not enjoying it as much as I am.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 16:05:34 ET
Posted by: Rooster, The Lido

Hmmm, just saw my two shows (portland and sf) this last week. Was going to comment on the setlist, but should probably hold back after reading the recent discussion. Well, at least they switched up "Home at Last" and "Babylon Sisters" between the two shows.

Overall, band sounded hot! Walt is a strange cat. Don looks like he should be in the Adams Family or something. My friend commented that he looked like a baby bird waiting for food to be droppped in his beak when he sings.

I guess it's one show a tour from here on out. (Fav show is still prob 2006 DF solo)

Here's a joke: what ends with Kid Charlemagne, Peg and My Old School?

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 15:59:28 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Finding out just what "too far" means...

Rexdale Guy - It wasn't actually me that said all that mean stuff about perennial Canadian favourites Rush. I merely opined that those kinds of acts shouldn't really taken too seriously here - from a strictly musical standpoint. Please don't be offended by my personal take on things, though, and remember that I never once used insulting words or phrases like "overwrought/plagiarized lyrics", "embarrassingly self-indulgent", "pompous", "self-serious without a shred of irony", "humorless", or "Alex Lifeson".

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 15:48:55 ET
Posted by: Greco,

Back to 2000 tour. Remember they were playing huge outdoor arenas with 20K plus a night. They played Night by Night, Glamour Profession, Boston Rag, Dont Take me Alive, Royal Scam, FM. These are not their "hits". Back then you would have thought they would have played it safe and not played those songs. Fast forward 2013. Anyone who likes SD has seen they at least once. I bet 45-50% of the crowd is hard core fans. Now is the time to play the rarities unless you guessed it. Its dash & cash by Don & Walt

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 15:37:59 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

Here's a good SD video clip from SF show. SD playing a song called "Kid Bodhisattva."

Set list, according to reliable sources in this alternate universe was:

Sign in Peg
Reeling in the Dirty Work
Glamour Sharlemagne
Deacon Green
Blue Earrings


Black Cow of Altamira

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 15:36:36 ET
Posted by: GRECO,

"Looks like these guys are on the path of same old boring set list night by night with too much chat, too many "raps" by WB, intros and covers. Why the covers? How about they play THREE more cool SD tunes by (1) making the band intros short as they did a few years back, (2) cutting out the Hey 19 rap crap, (3) cutting the jazz cover into and instead inserting in a tasty medley of SD tunes and (4) cutting the JOE TEX. They could EASILY play three more tunes that way. I love SD, but they need to get with it. Seems too much like making easy $$ off the fans instead of pushing the envelope more. The only different set lists will be the album nights or fan request nights (which is really what WB and DF decide). Instead of the jazz opener, hearing WB yammer on about some goofy shit with the "menacing amber liquid for 5 mins", the over blown and momentum killing intros, etc -- we could have: Third World Man, The Royal Scam, Caves of Altamira, I got the news, Pretzel Logic -- anything is better. Brinig KOTW and Green Book back. The truth needs to be told."

This is the truth, y'all.

Jo Bu

Couldn't have said it better myself. Bad enough the set list is repetitive but all that WB rap crap must go. Why have WB sing? When he does there is a mass exodus to the washroom. We coin it the "Walter Beck Break" Its clear they are touring for the $ not the music or the fans.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 15:22:09 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I am bummed that it's been over 10 years since the last Steely Dan album, but we also have gotten three stone cold solo classics from Don and Walt over the last seven years.

Would I like it if they'd shelve touring for two years to try a new one? Sure. Still, I got the feeling (from that Wurlitzer burble at the end of 'West of Hollywood') that there would be an immediate follow-up to 'Two Against Nature.' Didn't get the same feeling after hearing 'Everything Must Go.'

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 14:37:49 ET
Posted by: hoops, you know what i usually put here

As far as I (or anyone here would) know, yeah. Why?

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 14:17:42 ET
Posted by: JMurro,

Jim & etal:

As far as you know, is WB physically OK?

Thanks -
Jim Murro

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 14:15:26 ET
Posted by: Semiconductor, Cleveland

Rush's best album is Power Windows in my opinion. Go listen to it. It's a masterpiece. Steely Dan is becoming just like The Moody Blues when they tour. No new material, just the same old songs.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 12:02:34 ET
Posted by: razorboy666, austin

Mr Dean,

After rereading your post from last night this morning, I have to admit that I can't disagree with you on any of your points about Rush. They don't compare to the dan. I have a friend who is a great guy, a good guitarist, and a die hard Rush fan. I never cared for Geddy Lee's vocals either(kind of ruined the experience for me) but I guess I was drunkenly defending them on my friends behalf. I have been old schooled.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 10:33:37 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

Larry Carlton Trio here on the 24th. A newly renovated theater downtown. Looks quite nice.
Tickets.. $25.00

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 08:17:07 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Seconding Jim's post. I'm personally done with buying tickets because it's not worth it to my family for me to spend ungodly amounts to see the same setlist year after year. The only reason I went this year is because a friend of mine -- no kids, no college to worry about in five years -- bought me a ticket.

I can understand why they play mostly hits. In fact, the first thing my buddy asked me after we left the show (after we got past our "that show was so fucking good that I don't know what to say"-phase) was why they didn't play "Rikki." He didn't really want to hear the song, but was curious; as if something was weirdly wrong or amiss.

To echo Hoops' take, though, Donald has never sounded better. The weirdness of the sick-strained solo tour (which was GREAT, but Donald wasn't in full health) and Michael McDonald run in 2006 (basically ushering in Dan 4.0 in terms of touring; shorter shows) has gone away. Donald hits every note, now. And while Walter isn't exactly doing a Paul Stanley routine, his playing is miles better than it was in 2011; always a great thing to hear for someone whose playing I more closely relate to than any other guitar player.

The band is amazing. Better than ever. They're also playing a trad setlist. Juggle that gray area, as you consider your bank account.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 07:38:17 ET
Posted by: Michael, @The Dean

Hey, I really like Sail The Waterway. It has a nostalgic vibe about it that's easy on the breeze. I also enjoy Come Back Baby from their early demos, especially that clever turnaround by Donald, "My old man never taught/told me how." (*note* I forget off-hand what the exact lyric is.)

Someone brought up Dream Theatre. Funny thing is that while their actual recordings do nothing for me, there's some mean MIDI versions of their material on YouTube worth checking out.

Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 05:26:41 ET
Posted by: A, B

Razor Boy

Love it actually.

Can't believe it would be worse if I was there, so I don't see what people are bitching about. Seems like there's been a lot of that lately...

Let's be honest. If someone had said even five years ago - never mind ten or twenty - that you'd be hearing Razor Boy in concert - along with I Got the News, Show Biz Kids, fuck, even Kid Charlemagne - you'd have laughed.


Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 00:14:34 ET
Posted by: Blaine S., Rexdale

I have been to five Steely Dan shows. The solo Fagen show was the best of them all.


This time you have gone WAY WAY too far. Where do you get off raggin on RUSH? Rush is perhaps the all-time greatest rock band to come out of Canada! They practically put Canada on the map for the AOR music scene.

Your comments do a huge disservice to this exceptional rock act.

You show your ignorance or at worst a penchant to degrade a superb band or genre that you may not like rather than give it its due propers. Steely Dan isn't the only great band out there.

And, your comments about the Canadian band Rush might even constitute an insult, no, an AFFRONT to the Motherland.


Date: Mon, August 19, 2013, 00:11:39 ET
Posted by: Jake, Anaheim, CA

Geez...the mere thought of fans running off to take potty breaks when King of the World was played makes me kinda sick. I thought the audience gave a pretty good response when Doctor Wu was played at the Gibson in Los Angeles during Audience Request Night in 2009.

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 23:34:45 ET
Posted by: Geddy Lee Jeans, j

Rush fans love putting their songs on youtube with lyrics. It's a lesson in futility, but I have to comment on how bad it all is. Screeching vocals, no melody, silly lyrics that they obviously think are good. Just completely unlistenable.

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 23:03:34 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick

Thanks to the usual kind fplks who contacted me about the spam. It is gone. I'll check again later on in case it reappears.

Regarding the setlist debate: for me, the only annoying, disappointing, and repetitious part of all this tour is THE REPETITIOUS COMPLAINING. To answer "Just Asking." I've seen SD three times this tour and maybe about 80 times total. I know that there are more than a few of you out there who have seen them over a 100 times. so I'll let those people chime in.

But to answer the other questions. I'll bet it's 100 people at most shows (save for towns with multiple mights) who have or will have seen the Dan twice or more on the tour. That's out of what? typically 3,800 at most of these venues. Those numbers ara generous.

You know what else? 99% of the attendees (most all don't what the bluebook is) are hearing what they want to hear this tour. Not only that, King of The World was a peak potty break opportunity for most of the audience. Same thing happened through the years when they played the likes of True Companion, title track off Guacho on Gaucho night, more so for My Rival, Hey 19 always drives the crowd more wild than any other song. As soon as they hit the opening chords of "Hey 19," the crowd goes nuts. And while there are those here who though Internet Request Night was/is fixed, I know it isn't because they play Rikki Don't Lose That Number on those nights when Donald really doesn't want to play it. We're the "1%" and the 99% want to hear "Decade" in its entirety and pretty much the complete Aja album. One might argue if anyone has a right to complain about the set lists and what fans want to hear, it's Donald, Walter and the band, but I'm sure they have a different perspective.

When I talk before the shows with those who end up having tickets next to me, I never anymore mention that I saw them at a previous show. The response is inevitably, "You gotta be kidding." I fact, I WAS asked by fans at both Detroit and Indy where I was from (like CIty or 'burbs nearby?) and they they was insane to drive hours to see SD; moreover, one did ask if I thought they would play "Hey 19" and "Book keeper's son." (I don't bother anymore correcting to "Don't Take Me Alive." "My response: I have no idea! Maybe they will!!") But of course the shoe goes on the other foot at Dukes shows: part of me would rather Boz just played his "Hits!" album and left it at that.

So as I said a few weeks ago, what's amazing for us long time appreciators of SD, is how great the performances have been getting. They are playing better than ever. Moreover, Donald's voice has gotten really great this year, compared than the past two or three tours. I was concerned about the durability of his voice the past couple of tours.

So the questions about how many times are good ones. I'd like for people to state that. It could be interesting.



Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 22:30:57 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Toronto, in a bit of a Rush...

When we start to seriously consider acts like "Rush" in the context of any musical conversation, we're only one slip away from some pretty (albeit humorously) embarrassing stuff. Anyone wanna do a "Dream Theater" or "Metallica" setlist comparison? I sure hope not. Let's keep it clean, folks.

The Dean - Well, damn you and yer condescending lectures. Apparently one unidentified mystery poster doesn't like them. Look - one more readable/enjoyable/smartass-y contribution from you, sir, and I will personally award you a lifetime pass to every future/possible Red Hot Chili Peppers concert, and I will hire agents to ensure that you attend every performance. Until that hideous act folds/dies. Think about that before you post more of your entertaining stuff here again.

"If a troll trolls and no-one responds...."

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 22:27:12 ET
Posted by: Alex, Van Nuys, CA

Dean...Kirk posted songs he heard during the sound check for San Francisco: Gaucho, Sign in Stranger, Everything You Did, Jack of Speed. I know the die-hard Steely Dan fans would love to see these in the actual setlist. Then what is the purpose for playing them when the audience isn't going to hear it? It baffles me. But I guess other bands/artists do this too.

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 21:26:11 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

razrboy555 do I REALLY need to explain why it might be a bit more difficult to have an ever-changing setlist consisting of songs of great complexity vs simpler tunes? Especially when the band is a tight 13-piece unit? Please tell me you understand that. While Rush's songs might be a bit more complex than, say, the average Stone song, they aren't the same complex compositions and arrangements as the average Dan tune.

Hey, I love the blues for example. But it isn't hard for someone to sit in and play an average blues tune they may not be very familiar with. You can shout out a blues number to any reasonably competent band and they can probably fake their way through it. Try that with most SD tunes. Obviously even with the blues it gets harder if the band is known for being exceptionally precise and tight. Harder still the more working parts are involved--if you expect all these working parts to play a vital part in the performance.

As for what Geddy's "voice" has to do with anything, well let's just say: No matter how diverse the setlist, if the end result is unlistenable noise, does it really matter?

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 20:48:34 ET
Posted by: Think about it ,

Lutz, Tony, others.

How many shows have you seen this SD tour?

How many SD shows have you seen ever?

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 20:39:13 ET
Posted by: razorboy555, blue austin

What does Getty Lee�s screech and Rush�s supposed lack of complexity have to do with this anything Dean? That�s like hearing someone call SD elevator music. Or Buddy Rick bitch about a back beat?

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 20:36:49 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Tony, I somewhat share you disappointment about variety in the set lists. Had there been more or even some SC, I would have gone to Reno tonight. However, we are not going to will them into playing this or that so might as well enjoy what's offered. It's still one of the best shows out there.

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 20:34:02 ET
Posted by: Think about it ,

Correction: On any given night, what percentage of the AUDIENCE do you think have seen the show more than once this SD tour?

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 20:32:56 ET
Posted by: Think about it ,

On any given night, what percentage of people do you think have seen the show more than once this tour?

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 20:22:03 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Nanker Phelge, Jo Bu, Tony (Napa)---I just did a site search for all three of you and other than these recent posts there are ZERO results. I found no previous posts from any of you. So either:

1. You have never posted here before and decided for your first post on a SD fan forum you would post a negative review of a setlist for a show you didn't even attend---or

2. You post here under ever changing handles because you don't have the guts to use a consistent username--and refuse to be held accountable for your opinions over a period of time.--or

3. You are simply trolls with nothing better to do than to try to see what kind of controversy you can stir up among people you don't know. Damn, your lives must be boring. Truth is, I expect you are all the same poster. Enough time spent on non-members of this community.

Back to actual SD discussion---

I actually can't think of any BAD official Steely Dan songs. Certainly there are songs I like better than others, and there might be one or two officially released songs I don't believe are up to the band's usual standards. But that's about it. Discussing unreleased songs is ridiculous as obviously Walt and Dod didn't even think those made the grade. Plus, they were never actually developed. Some of those older demos might have actually developed into something really good, had they decided to release them.

Dallas does do much for me. Neither does Sail the Waterway (though it isn't terrible). Of the songs on actual Dan studio albums, Change of the Guard isn't bad at all, but perhaps a notch below their usual standards--and might be the only song on their studio albums short of excellent, IMO. (If I'm not mistaken, Don has remarked he is a bit embarrassed by some of the early tunes.)

But one thing is for sure, there are NO bad songs played at a SD concert. I've been to 10 or so SD concerts over the years (I can't make multiple shows every tour like some of you lucky bastards) and I have never tired of any song in the playlist. There is always something new and interesting to appreciate. And besides, why would I tire of hearing a great band play great songs?

Hoops has already addressed the setlist complaint stupidity and done so very well. But I can't help but get a kick out of the Rush comment. Hell, Putting aside for one second Rush is a trio, playing fairly uncomplicated music, they could play an ever changing setlist of the best music of all time and you'd still be subjected to the horrendous screeching of Geddy Lee.

Please, if your complaints are going to be based on setlists-on-paper at least compare SD to other large bands, who play complicated music and arrangements to an exacting standard. Solo artists, small groups, jam bands, etc are not good comparisons.

And finally, while I don't think of myself as a stuffed shirt (and I'm guaranteeing nobody who has ever met me would think so either) I will not apologize for like quality TIMELESS music, and expecting to hear the excellent musicians on stage perform this music without the distraction of a bunch of drunks with no self control. To think anyone would criticize someone for liking jazz and/or classical music is absurd. Should we all just like the flavor of the day and run around with total disregard for the other concert attendees? Is selfishness now a virtue? But I have to give Hector some credit. At least he has the integrity to post his opinions under his username and doesn't hide behind an ever-changing list of phony handles like so many others.

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 20:12:14 ET
Posted by: razorboy666, blue austin

Naysayers be damned, the dan are not going to roll into Stevie Ray�s town and slack. Ha. The Austin Rag indeed.

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 19:54:08 ET
Posted by: Jo Bu, here, there . . . everywhere!

I think Don Patrol has blinders on. "Were you blind that day"?

I love SD as much as anyone, but they must be called out onto the carpet. They took 20 off. They have been touring again now for 20 years. Play some other music. Switch it up from night to night. These are amazing musicians. If Pearl Jam can switch it up big time from night to night playing 30-33 tunes in a show, then SD and the boys/girls can do 20-22 tunes and mix it up. They have the repertoire because they have to play at least 30 some different tunes to play all the album nights, fan requests and the usual (and often overplayed) radio hits. If you continue to say nothing, then it is just ka-ching ka-ching $$ for D&W at the box office and we get same old, same old. It sounds good, but they are capable of MUCH more. How about we get some of that?!!

Jo Bu

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 18:34:44 ET
Posted by: Tony, Napa, CA

Glad you had a good time, Lutz. Actually I was really worried that they might have played King of the World for that show. Then I really would have kicked myself in the butt for not going. Last time I saw them was at the Mountain Winery in Saratoga. Hearing Night by Night was the big highlight for me.

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 18:15:13 ET
Posted by: Doug, US

For fucks sake, somebody record Razor Boy at a show!

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 17:57:25 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Fabulous show last night, sound was quite alright in the middle. Of course not as good as indoors. No surprises, but we knew that.
Glad to hear I got the news! Babylon Sisters appeared as if it was played a little bit faster, did anyone else notice or did my cocktails kick in too hard?
Tony, thanks for sharing. I am also glad you didn't blow that money for the show. That ticket went to someone who might have had a ball - imagine that! The other 9000 fans there managed without you as well.

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 17:02:20 ET
Posted by: Tony, Napa, CA

Get what, Don Patrol? The fact that Donald & Walter chooses to ignore the rich material (Western World, Boston Rag, Any World, Barrytown, etc) from their other albums and always focus on the same songs when they tour really annoys me. The most shocking thing about this tour is that absolutely nothing from Sunken Condos has been played.

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 15:16:47 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

It has been remarked on this forum before, but bears repeating; Some people just don't get it.

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 14:26:54 ET
Posted by: Tony, Napa, CA

Sure glad I didn't blow $227.00 for a ticket to last night's San Francisco show. Not worth hearing the same tunes again.

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 14:05:47 ET
Posted by: Jo Bu, here, there . . . everywhere!

Looks like these guys are on the path of same old boring set list night by night with too much chat, too many "raps" by WB, intros and covers. Why the covers? How about they play THREE more cool SD tunes by (1) making the band intros short as they did a few years back, (2) cutting out the Hey 19 rap crap, (3) cutting the jazz cover into and instead inserting in a tasty medley of SD tunes and (4) cutting the JOE TEX. They could EASILY play three more tunes that way. I love SD, but they need to get with it. Seems too much like making easy $$ off the fans instead of pushing the envelope more. The only different set lists will be the album nights or fan request nights (which is really what WB and DF decide). Instead of the jazz opener, hearing WB yammer on about some goofy shit with the "menacing amber liquid for 5 mins", the over blown and momentum killing intros, etc -- we could have: Third World Man, The Royal Scam, Caves of Altamira, I got the news, Pretzel Logic -- anything is better. Brinig KOTW and Green Book back. The truth needs to be told.

This is the truth, y'all.

Jo Bu

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 12:52:22 ET
Posted by: Nanker Phelge, San Francisco

Identical set as Aug. 11 Boise - wash rinse repeat I guess.
High points: Aja, Boddisathva, Reeling, Herrington was fantastic!
Low points: Razor Boy (not a good idea productionwise having the girls sing this one, album version is way way better -- also Walter singing Daddy Don't live -- uhhhh no, just no...)
My 6th SD show -- not one of their finest of the six, imho.
Would have loved to hear KOTW, Dr. Wu, Scam, oh well maybe next time.

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 12:33:26 ET
Posted by: Smooth Operator, Hollywood, CA

So where is the setlist for last night's San Francisco show? Any surprises?

Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 08:45:36 ET
Posted by: Christian, London

Thanks for the heads-up about the Samuel Purdey album. I'd never heard of them before, absolutely brilliant album! A must-have for Dan fans!


Date: Sun, August 18, 2013, 00:40:40 ET
Posted by: Eddie, Los Angeles

Hey, Kirk! How was the show in San Francisco? I'll be going to the two Nokia shows here in Los Angeles.

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 22:14:17 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

About my Boxed Set idea, why not all of the rarities that people would love to own like "The Second Arrangement", "The Bear" and songs they've only done a handful of times like "Pearl of the Quarter".
Personally I'd like a boxed set with live versions that would consist of the best of the tours. For instance, back in 2000, "The Boston Rag" and "Night by Night" were among the songs featured. In 2003, "The Caves of Altamira" and "Haitian Divorce" were featured.
Some of the songs have been performed in Multiple tours. For instance, I loved the 2000 version of "Dirty Work" performed by the Embassy Brats, but some of the more recent versions have been slower and just didn't resonate as well with me.
Just from reading all of the commentary about "Set Lists" here shows the level of interest quite a few fans have and who wouldn't want a newer, better version of "Alive in America".

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 21:54:15 ET
Posted by: Alex, Van Nuys, CA

Sound check sounds better than the actual setlist. From that selection, I think only Black Friday and Time Out of Mind will be played for the show.

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 21:14:45 ET
Posted by: Kirk, By the Bay

Just left the SF sound check. Here's what they rehearsed:
Sign in Stranger
Everything You Did
Black Friday
Time Out of Mind
Jack of Speed.

Had to leave after Jack. Fingers crossed for Stranger.

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 19:26:23 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Good call. They could release a new live CD/DVD combo, in addition to the new album, but don't you think it's too soon for another box set? There's been but two albums since 2000 and several 'best of' albums, so what would they add? Maybe if they included a rarities disc with cleaned-up versions of outtakes and such, plus studio recordings of Wet Side Story and Cash Only Island.

It's an idea.

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 18:40:24 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa FL

About a month ago, there was a rumor that there may be a future "Steely Dan" album and it may include some songs from the 80's/90's that never made it to any of their albums (I think that's what I heard so songs like "Wet Side Story" may get revisited).
For all the complaints about "Set Lists" maybe Donald & Walter should sign off on either a 2nd Boxed Set or a 2nd live album.
2 years ago at the Beacon they performed about 75% of their catalog including the "rarities". Come October, they'll be "doing it again"...
Releasing these would surely be a commercial/critical success either as a DVD or CD set.
With Donald's book coming out soon, I also think the Music of "Steely Dan" will end up coming to Broadway just like Green Day and some other groups have. Their music is too good to just lie dormant accept for the occasional tour.

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 17:11:32 ET
Posted by: Sammy, Oakland

Hey, CJB! Have you ever attended any shows by Rush? Rush always changes the setlist for each tour and they always play for nearly 3 hours. They continually record and play new material so they don't fall into the stagnant nostalgia "hits only" trap that bands like Chicago, Hall & Oates, ZZ Top, Styx and countless others have fallen into. I've seen Steely Dan on every tour since 1993 but this year I finally decided to call it quits after looking at the current setlist.
I know the high caliber of musicianship when you have (aside from Donald & Walt) Jon Herington, Keith Carlock, Jim Beard, etc on stage, but for me I'm just plain tired of hearing Hey 19, Black Friday, Josie, Peg, Reelin' and My Old School time and time again.

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 16:31:11 ET
Posted by: Michael, @KD

Changing of the Guard, Dallas, You Gotta Walk It Like You Talk It, and a few others just don't do much for me. Different strokes for different folks.

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 16:17:25 ET
Posted by: Stevie Dan, Philadelphia, PA

Lurker Ray, Thanks for sharing the Brubeck and Bennett tunes. Very cool - and extremely good sound recording for it's time.

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 15:58:08 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Just can't find those "shittier" songs

KD - I agree wholeheartedly - 100%.

I would also include all the "rarities" i.e. the junked/abandoned/orphaned songs in that list.

Any SD or related song = TURN UP THE VOLUME!

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 12:02:43 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Yeah, I'm not trying to be a jerk or contrary, but name a Steely Dan song that you wouldn't turn up to 10 if it popped up on the radio.

Solo, live re-do, and Android-era demos included. I can't think of a single one that I wouldn't turn this XM receiver all the way to blare for all the neighbors to hear.

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 09:47:50 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, SoBe - Off The The Water

Mad About Brubeck?

I know many of us here are. Don't think this has ben posted here before but in 1962 Both Tony Bennett and Dave Brubeck were asked by the JFK White House to perform at the "White House Seminar American Jazz Concert", for college students who'd been working as interns in the nation's capital, on Tuesday, August 28, 1962. Originally planned for the White House Rose Garden, the enormity of the crowd necessitated the concert being moved to the nearby Sylvan Theater by the Washington Monument. The entire recording was considered lost until unearthed in late 2012. Both had their individual sets, but then combined for an impromptu four final songs together. This is the first time they'd played together, and wouldn't do so again until 2009.

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 09:20:30 ET
Posted by: Michael,

On the subject of good vs bad songs, I think every artist has their fair share of both, SD included. That being said, their good material dwarfs the bad and stands amongst the best music ever created.

An interesting parallel: most other artists have maybe a couple of good tunes while the rest is unmemorable filler, whereas with SD it's the opposite. Nearly every tune is a winner. Some artists have a built-in high standard of quality, I suppose. This attribute requires a highly analytical mind obsessed with structure and detail, nuance and beauty.

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 08:41:44 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Steely Dan:

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 08:31:20 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

"shittier SD songs"

Wow. Here's Skunk's solo from "Change of the Guard" in your eye, and a "Fall of '92" to your ribs while you're down. The concept of such a thing baffles me.

Spent a while in a wormhole with clips from the recent tour. Endless frigging talking from these crowds. I just don't understand the lack of focus. It's 90 minutes of your day. It's a sliver in your week. Why can't you just clam up for it?

As an aside, when I left the Indy show with a buddy of mine, as we walked to a pub, we were quite literally speechless. This is a guy that I prattle on with endlessly about music, 1000 words a minute, and there was no back and forth. These sorts of shows, at their best, are designed to shut you up.

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 05:42:31 ET
Posted by: Doug, US

Just listening to Green Book. My speakers are fucked - for some reason the bass is now extremely prominent in the mix: and it's amazing! Seriously, listen to Green Book, listen to the bass ... unbelievable work there.

Date: Sat, August 17, 2013, 02:45:41 ET
Posted by: CJB, Just back from Boise

I'll post a lot more later.

Thanks to General Admission, this was finally the place I got to stand approximately fifteen feet from my favorite band.

As for everybody bitching about the "static setlist," two points:

1. Didn't hear anything I hadn't previously heard from the main catalog, save "Razor Boy."

2. Best performance (solos, general band energy, DF vocals, etc.) that I have ever seen in (now) sixteen plus shows. & that includes Rarities Night.

2a. Seattle good but not as good as Boise.

3. Sound killer, everyone mixed properly.

4. To anyone who wants to respond to me by citing country fairs, Three Dog Night, some better imaginary setlist, etc. etc.,, if a troll trolls, and nobody replies...

Date: Fri, August 16, 2013, 23:40:27 ET
Posted by: razorboy666, austin

security joan - great article on huffpo.

Date: Fri, August 16, 2013, 23:17:14 ET
Posted by: razorboy666, austin

Hey y�all, I�m going to the show at Bass in Austin. Is anyone else going?

Date: Fri, August 16, 2013, 23:13:44 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

Say what you want about apathetic set lists but this year will be my 10th and 11th shows and every show I've attended has given me something different that I haven't experienced before. Be it the way Don or Walt play or perform, react or how a certain song will twist my mind in a direction I've never heard felt or can explain. That's why u keep going back.

Date: Fri, August 16, 2013, 22:40:18 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, PS

And to which I can only add....

[QUOTE - Hector E.] - "the shittier SD songs".

You said it, bro/dude.

"Shittier SD songs".

Your words, not mine.

I'd be happy to pay for and donate to you an unlimited lifetime pass to every future "Journey" concert, anywhere in the Western World, if you'll agree to never again attend a Steely Dan live show. Call it a hedging-my-bets investment in my own personal musical future.

Date: Fri, August 16, 2013, 22:24:12 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Unwittingly evolved?

Oh, "Hector E"....

In my own defense, I'll say that I for one certainly haven't "evolved" at all, unwittingly or otherwise. I just don't like loud Classic Rock posers who blabber loudly throughout songs at a live concert. I've always been angered by selfish jackasses who happily ruin others' enjoyment of songs like Green Book simply because they lack manners and any form of self-control. Absolutely no "evolution" here. Trust me on that one.

Can we safely presume that you are one of the drunken, noisy, clumsy oafs who can't shut their goddamned yaps for six minutes while the live band plays? Is it your idea of a good night out to attend a concert you don't give a crap about, then turn your back to the stage and update everyone within earshot with the excruciating details of your beige existence? Your post sounds pretty defensive, and makes you appear to be the clown most respectful fans dread the thought of sitting beside.

Please tell me you aren't gonna be in the Loge for October 3/4/5 at The Beacon. I paid to watch Steely Dan, not The Uncontrollable Mouth & Peanut-Sized Bladder of Hector E."......

Date: Fri, August 16, 2013, 20:54:50 ET
Posted by: Hector E.,

MODP, Lenny, Dean et. al.

Jazz clubs from now on? Hating on the cell phone tapers and those going for beer or piss breaks during the shittier SD songs?

You all sound like the elitist, snobbish, classical/symphony music listening superiority, old fogey blue bloods that we despised when we were young and "smokin wherever we were" Those same ones who wagged their knobby, wrinkled fingers at us.

You all have unwittingly evolved into a contemporary version of those fossilized stuffed shirts.

Date: Fri, August 16, 2013, 20:12:45 ET
Posted by: Squid, Santa Barbara

Very little activity on these boards. This is reflective of Steely Dan's apathetic setlist for this tour.

Date: Fri, August 16, 2013, 16:05:28 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

siap, but some outfit called guitarkadia has posted on youtube looks like several videos of Jon H explaining some guitar techniques. Pretty interesting stuff. Here's link to one of them, with lots of SD involvement.

Date: Fri, August 16, 2013, 14:14:01 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

M/O/D/P, I don't know if the younger generation is more respectful or if they just can't afford the outrageous food and drink prices and so have no reason to leave their seats!

Date: Fri, August 16, 2013, 06:49:53 ET
Posted by: h!,

Thanks for the Redmond tweets @SueDave!!!


Date: Fri, August 16, 2013, 00:19:24 ET
Posted by: Lenny, San Francisco

These are the people I detest the most at rock concerts. They aren't really real music fans. All they want to do is party and hear the hits. Nowadays I find myself going to more jazz clubs so I don't have deal with this kind of insolence.

Date: Thurs, August 15, 2013, 23:20:41 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Counting the days until NYC

The "disruptive behavior at concerts" thing really isn't an either/or situation as far as I can see, and my intention definitely wasn't to put words (or anything else, for that matter) into anyone's mouth. Anecdotally, I've just been seeing way too many older folks at shows, indoor and outdoor, who appear to be interested in hearing only a few songs - generally the "hits" they recognize from the radio of their youth ("hits" reinforced by today's repetitive "Classic Rock" nostalgia trip) - and who tend to use the rest of the songs played as an opportunity to catch up on their social lives....loudly....or their dinners....sloppily [file under: foul-smelling nachos/over-loaded hot dogs/$6 per slice cardboard-&-red-paint pizza]....or to go and get yet another $15 Big Gulp Beer. Again, it's anecdotal, but the younger fans I see - even the ones with the silly-looking facial hair and the livin'-in-the-moment-horrific-magic-marker-accident tattoos all over their bodies - tend to be more respectful of what's actually happening on stage. Not exactly a peer reviewed scientific study, but my own personal observations nonetheless.

Back on a recent Sunday night in late July, I was lucky enough to get a full dose of Green Book, live, in all its glory. It made the show for me. Around me, people either stared blankly (beside me), got up to get another happy-juice (in front of me), or went back to talking about what an asshole Mike in Sales is (behind me). No embarrassing tattoos, no silly pants.....just a bunch of soft, pudgy boomers whose best/lifetime concert memories come from The Stones' most recent mega-tour.....

Date: Thurs, August 15, 2013, 18:47:59 ET
Posted by: tom, socal

I'm on it Joan

Date: Thurs, August 15, 2013, 16:31:44 ET
Posted by: Paul Morley, London

Read a couple of posts about the 90's band Samuel Purdey here so I downloaded it yesterday. It's Bloody good, been on my iPod all day, VERY Steely Dan. Highly recommended. Why weren't they huge?

Date: Thurs, August 15, 2013, 16:27:14 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Not the same thing, Steve. We're not out $100-$200 bucks on travel, parking, tickets, date, drinks, etc to hear a CD or LP we already own. And I paid to see them this year.

Date: Thurs, August 15, 2013, 16:15:28 ET
Posted by: Steve ,

That's like saying you won't listen to Aja on CD because you already heard it a million times already on vinyl. Steely Dan keeps getting better. Your loss.

Date: Thurs, August 15, 2013, 15:16:24 ET
Posted by: Lenny, Sam Francisco

Thanks for the info. I'll be at the San Francisco book signing. Because of the lackluster setlist, I won't be attending the Steely Dan concert this Saturday.

Date: Thurs, August 15, 2013, 11:30:57 ET
Posted by: PGE, Book now!

Donald Fagen will do a short book signing/Q&A tour when the Eminent Hipsters is published.
Five dates are up on the Penguin Books homepage:

* Tuesday, Oct 22 2013
Location New York

Upstairs at the Square, Pre-sign books, On stage Q&A

* Thursday, Oct 24 2013
Location Philadelphia

Pre-sign books, On stage Q&A

* Tuesday, Oct 29 2013
Location Washington

Pre-sign books, On stage Q&A

* Wednesday, Nov 06 2013
Location San Francisco

Pre-sign books, On stage Q&A

* Thursday, Nov 07 2013
Location Seattle

Pre-sign books, On stage Q&A

More info here:,,sapid_1000078507,00.html

Date: Thurs, August 15, 2013, 11:16:50 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

We have a very large "shed" here in Houston. Seats close to 17,000 with 6,500 covered seats. For a band like SD, if you aren't in the center in a seat forget it. It's the worst venue in terms of sound quality that I've ever atteneded. That said, SD always draws a pretty good crowd. I'd say around 10,000 for the 2000 show and slightly less in 2006. I heard the Dukes drew only about 3 or 4K last year. But, becasue of our less than stellar venue I'm going to see them in Austin as well. Indoor, quaint theater.

Also, the biggest asses during concerts are the corporate types who show up late and want to make sure they are seen.

Date: Thurs, August 15, 2013, 08:46:27 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

KD, sorry if I put words in your mouth -- wasn't my intent. Just my own opinion on the matter. Personally, I keep the phone in my pocket during shows, but at the same time I watch the hell out of any live videos I find and enjoy the live setlist tweets. A glowing phone can be distracting visually, but at least it's not covering up the music!

Date: Thurs, August 15, 2013, 04:06:04 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

It was definitely my fault for turning this into a "cell phone vs. Boomer" argument, this is on me for poorly articulating and turning it into an either/or. I didn't mean for it to come out that way.

I'm 33 and can't stand to see phones out, if even for a song. I've just noticed, as I go to more and more shows with crowds that feature attendees that are a decade younger than me, that these people (involving all the stereotypes; with PBR tallboy in hand, plenty of tattoos, goofball facial hair, etc.) have seemed to be far more respectful and mindful of the act than the Dan/Dukes fans that I've been around since the Sugartooth Tour in 2006.

Not a fan of either the talking nor the smartphonin', just an observation.

Date: Thurs, August 15, 2013, 00:06:48 ET
Posted by: Security Joan , A Modest Proposal

OK, this is kind of a self-serving request, so I'm ready for anyone to yell at me for posting this: Anyway, I blog on HuffPo, and they determine how much social media promotion they'll do on any given blog post based on "engagement" -- i.e., comments, shares, etc. Sadly, my recent interview w. Donald Fagen has fallen flatter than things like, say, The Barbi Twins. So if anyone has a moment, please feel free to visit this article and enter a comment... I don't care if want to say the article sucks, whatever, it's all about the level of "engagement"... I'd just love to see a Steely Dan related item get some kind of profile on Twitter or other social media! And again, feel free to yell at me for posting this. Here is the article:

Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 22:25:11 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Doc Mu, your last post reminded me of something I wanted to post earlier about I Got the News. I noticed early on, the song sounds much better on a good set of phones. I hear things I simply don't pick up listening on a set of speakers (even very good ones) and the guitar solo just POPS! Can't really explain it, but there it is.

As for assholes talking, cell phones and the like at concerts. I have to say I hadn't really thought about it. But for the most part, the biggest idiots tend to be around my age (I'm 56). Cell phones don't bother me all that much. Not a big fan, but I'll also take them as the lesser of evils when compare to talking/singing loudly/non-stop dancing without regard to the people behind you. For some reason I expect different behavior at nice indoor venues than I do in lawn seats at outdoor venues (and why I don't sit in lawn seats). If you want to dance, go to the lawn seats, to the extreme left or right isles, etc. Not to be a buzz kill but remember, your good time shouldn't spoil that of the people behind/next to you. Chair dancing (seated) is always acceptable.

Mr. Fuddy Duddy has spoken!

Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 21:40:05 ET
Posted by: Squidley Blisterlips, sxsouthaustin

I don�t usually wade into it, but since I will be seeing the show in Austin in a few weeks, whatever. I always turn for comfort to the dan. I pick up my fiddle and play a few mu major double stops in honor of them. I could care less what the naysayers say - I love these guys. If they have an off-night, which I doubt, I don�t care. They�re family.

Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 21:21:15 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Jazz - thanks. There it is in the right channel. Sample sounds right- I'd need a good set of headphones to pick out idiosyncaracies.

Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 19:43:02 ET
Posted by: Kickstart, Bend

Music was great, venue not so much. Snarky security, unorganized traffic management coming and going, smoking area (cigarette, pipes, cigars)too close to lawn. Will not do another show at Edgefield.
Turned what should be an awesome time into a pile o'poo.

Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 19:00:26 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Ageeing to agree, all the time....

The Dean - as usual, you nailed it. Unless I can get really decent seats, I refuse to attend any concert at one of these outdoor sheds. Better to have no memories at all than horrible ones, I figger. Lawn seats of any kind are a no-fly zone for me. Cheap(er) seats at a nicer "theater-style" hall are still a good option vs. not going at all, for me anyways. Toronto's Massey Hall, for example, doesn't have a truly bad seat - especially when that seat is compared to one the same distance from the stage in a basketball/hockey area or (even worse) football stadium.

I'm also with KD and Chris, nh - As much as I despise cell phone culture and its pervasiveness in society, my listening experience is not diminished at all by someone who's shooting a souvenir video. Some loudmouth yapping uncontrollably on the phone during the proceedings is a different ballgame entirely, but lately I haven't seen very many younger audience members doing this. A more likely disruptive scenario comes from the toxically self-involved "baby boomers" in front of me/behind me/beside me who can't grasp the concept that they are not in their own living rooms/TV rooms/dens/terlets. As often as not, these extremely unlikable types fail to realize that the entire show does not revolve around them and their every impulsive whim. Maybe these ignorant blabbermouths never learned the difference between live music, played by real live musicians, and the recorded stuff they're used to blathering over wherever they may be. Or maybe they never learned respectful behavior/manners because they never attended "rock concerts" in the 70s because mommy & daddy just wouldn't let them go. Who knows?

I'll take a section full of "kids" using their iPhones to capture a few memories over a flock of overweight, loud clods who talk, drink, eat, walk around, break wind, and generally act like they're at the local TGI Friday's, any day of the week.....

Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 17:50:51 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!


I can relate to an overall bad experience when attending a concert. Traffic, parking, bad seats can definitely put me in a bad state before the band even takes the stage.

Not to discount your experience or review, I have concluded (based on past experiences) judging the quality of the band/sound/etc is hard to do from lawn seats. I almost expect the sound to suck and the band to sound off these days, when I am stuck outside the prime listening zone. Those seats are fine for a casual concert that is more about getting out, drinking (or other more exotic substances), picnics, etc--but aren't conducive to proper listening. Of course there are only so many prime seats. So your experience is probably closer to what many at that concert experienced. That can't help a band's reputation.

For me, though, if I can't get a decent seat for SD, I won't go anymore. I have been lucky scoring GREAT single seats on the night of the show, even if the show is "sold out". In St Augustine the key is to sit near the sound board--at least that always seems to work for me.

Anyway, sorry to hear your experience wasn't exceptional--which it should be at a SD concert.

Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 14:42:03 ET
Posted by: Greg M, nyc

This is not a complaint, but an observation: When was the last time the Dan has such an *static* setlist? Even in 2011 (excluding the special shows) there was more variation. For example in Danbury CT, they opened with Aja (the song) and not YGT. And the encores varied greatly.

Song choices aside, why are we seeing less *variation* of song order this time around? Sheet music issues? Walter's choice?

Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 13:48:41 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

The Samuel Purdey album is fantastic. Drove around on a sunny Saturday with the wife listening to it the other day, and livened up a pool party with it on Sunday night -- kinda blew the minds of some younger types that have been listening to the Daft Punk album all summer.

Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 13:42:34 ET
Posted by: Kenneth, Bristol, UK

I ordered a CD by a group called Samuel Purdey as I saw a review in Mojo and had to get myself one. Didn't realize it was a mid 90's album until I did a little bit of research � not that that matters, because it's the first time I've heard it and it's mind-blowing. Think Steely Dan/Earth Wind & Fire/The Doobies and Tower Of Power and that's exactly what you get, I've had it in my car for three days straight and I don't see it being replaced anytime soon, very good songwriting and stupendous production. Just thought I'd give you guys the heads up as the Steely Dan influence is so prominent.



Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 13:00:23 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

KD, I'm with ya. Personally, I prefer the glow of a smartphone screen to a loudmouth conversation behind me, which happens every time I see Steely Dan, always from the mouth of a baby boomer.

Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 12:36:22 ET
Posted by: Dustin, Portland

Mr. Belzoni.

I read part the beginning of your essay and found it insufferable.

*Any band that starts at the listed time is news to me
*Parking always sucks(I got there early and out of there in 10 minutes.)
*The brats were sublime. If anyone had difficulties it was Michael Leonhardt.
*Edgefield is a kick-ass venue. I was in GA on the hillside and the sound was great. Security was a little rough on some people although U think they were mentally challenged..The security (honestly, no jeers)
*People thankful you got to See Your Gold Teeth, they only recently brought it back and they rocked it.
*The interesting instrumental was Gerry Mulligan. A tribute to their bop roots.

This was my 7th show. I've seen better and have seen nearly every song they played multiple, now 7 times. So what. the band was tight.

Sorry you showed up to late to get a good seat, Ignatius Reilly

Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 11:24:57 ET
Posted by: Climbing, Mt. B


Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 09:05:13 ET
Posted by: Ernie, US

Any news on Don's new one? Did he record it analog (typewriter) or digital? Or maybe he scribbled it out with a fountain pen and paid someone to do a digital transfer. Did he manually proofread or use an Autotune spell checker? Will it be released on sheep skin with cow blood ink?

Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 04:24:43 ET
Posted by: Mt. Belzoni, Portland OR

Ok, Dandom, once again I get to thank you all for your interesting reviews of your local Dan shows by posting my own of tonight's show here in Portland OR.

For starters, let me note that I am a Dan/Walter (a fellow Stuy High alum)/Donald devotee of many decades, cherish the many hours of joy that hearing and playing their music had brought me, am delighted that in 2013 they are still an active entity that you and I have the chance to see perform, and have greatly enjoyed the 7-8 shows I've seen them give since '94. So for those of you who feel that's all a Dan fan really should have to say after a show, there it is, and you can skip the rest of the review.

But for those who feel that, however appreciative we might be, it's appropriate to hold the Dan to their justifiably high standard of their past tours, I'd say that while tonight's show was enjoyable and had it's high points, it was my least favorite of the shows I've seen. The venue was far from optimal, the performance took flight in only a few spots (and had it's share of thuds), and it broke little new ground.

For some reason, the Dan have picked a different venue each of their previous 4 appearances here in town. Tonight they added a fifth (regrettably): a makeshift outdoor venue attached to an "historic" (read:old) hotel/meetings facility which, while only 15 miles from downtown Portland, is so unsuited to handling a large crowd that it took nearly 90 minutes to get there and park, and a full two hours to exit and get home from.

An outdoor stage sits at the corner of a sprawling lawn, with 1,000 reserved seats (all of which had been mysteriously sold by 10:00:10 am on the day they went on sale) and a lawn that held another 4,000-6,000 tonight. About 20% of the field has a good viewing/listening angle, while 60% is downright awful - farther from the stage than even the back of a major arena, with the added challenge of finding viewing angles around lush trees and hanging branches, and hearing the songs over occasional motorcycle engines just outside the fence. And the acoustics were very thin. Either the borderline brats were having a rare off-night, or the mix was so poor that they seemed to be out of tune with each other several times. All told, Edgefield was a very bad choice for Dan fans.

Show time was 6 pm due to local noise ordinances, but the massive traffic problems led them to hold off the opening act until 6:45, and the Dan didn't hit the stage until 7:30. Many already peeved by the access problems and delays were none too happy with the further 90 minute wait.

The band opened with an interesting instrumental, then YGT - a poor first vocal number imho. It's neither familiar to much of the audience, nor as impressive as Boston Rag, Aja, or other openers they've used, and it has a sameness that undercuts a long performance. A strong version of Aja followed, with Donald's vocals a tad weak. Now, I've seen Carlock take this song up to the heavens. I've left at least 2-3 Dan shows thinking the evening's (maybe the decade's) greatest highlight was his drumming down the song's home stretch. Tonight, however, it was merely very good, and thus (oddly) disappointing.

Hey 19 followed, and started to bring the somewhat distracted crowd alive - until Walter's. . . errr . . . "recitatif." Now I really like Walter - his musicianship, his songwriting, his solo works, his voice, etc. I'm not one of those headed for food/drink when he takes center stage. And I sort of like the short speech that Donald used to use to lead up to this song's Cuervo Gold refrain. But tonight in that spot, Walter embarked on a surprisingly characteurized, un-funny, massively self-indulgent schtick about finding old drug and liquor stashes that ran at least ten minutes, and crashed the entire song. Ok, maybe jokes about getting so stoned/wasted appeal to, what, 20% of modern Dan fans? (And are those 20% aware of how such things shut down Walter's talent and carreer for a decade or so?) But for ten minutes? And painfully unfunny? Hey guys: how about instead you devote those ten minutes to a really good song or solo? (KoTW even?) I wouldn't pay to see Seinfeld do a 10-minute instrumental (badly) at his shows, and don't need to hear Walter do such a painfully long monologue here. Give me what you guys do best, not this.

Unfortunately, Show Biz Kids was next up, and it's perhaps my least favorite Dan song. It's a single chord with a single riff that goes on endlessly, with little lyrical interest. After another 7-8 minutes of this, the crowd was as un-engaged as maybe I've ever seen at a Dan show. Black Friday got people back into things, and I Got the News was the evening's deepest Dan-performed cut and well played. (Happily, we got The Bear here last tour.)

The show finally took off with Time Out of Mind - a great tune which I've never heard them perform better - Donald's melodica work on this and Godwacker reached new heights of what I've seen him do (by contrast, during Aja it sounded far too wan). Daddy Don't Live was good and Bodhitsattva another major highlight. Glad to see Razor Boy on the set list, but the harmonies were either off or fell victim to the sound system. What I expect as the song's main melody line was buried too deep in the harmony, or overwhelmed by the other vocalists. Then, instead of Babylon Sisters, we got a top-notch version of Home at Last, with great guitar work by Walter.

The band intros were perfunctory, and per Walter, either each musician was from NYC or their hometown didn't merit mention. Josie and Peg were great, and started to get the crowd going again. My Old School was the best rendition I've heard from them in years - they have finally calmed it down a bit into a great swinging number, rescuing it from the chaotic, overpumped versions they'd been playing for years. Reeling was great too. Kid Charlemagne was a short encore, again leaving me to wonder why it's ok to use Reeling's phenomenal guitar solo but not KC's even more phenomenal one. It's okay to recognize Diaz/Baxter's major contribution to the former song, but not Carlton's to the latter?

Overall, Donald's voice was neither quite as strong or on-key as the last few times I've seen them. Carlock was great, Pugh had some fine solos, and Herrington really extraordinary. Michael Leonhart's work left me unimpressed tonight, and the vocalists far back in the mix didn't seem to blend all that well with Donald. In sum, a good show, but merely a good show, which is disappointing when I've seen and heard such amazing live performances from them.

Tonight, I left home at 4:30 and didn't get back til 11:30 - all for a concert 15 miles away. (Heck, I've driven 6 hours round trip to see them in Seattle when they've skipped Portland, and it didn't bother me as much as spending 4.5 hours in a car to see them play here.) That's 90 minutes to get there, 90 minutes to wait for their set to begin, 2 hours of good music and 2 hours more to get out of the lot and home.

Don't get me wrong. Don & Walt, if you're reading this, don't consider Portland ungrateful and drop us from your list. If you guys come back next year, I'll be online again buying tickets and eagerly looking forward to it.

But after all the great performances I've seen you give, all the deep cuts I've delighted in hearing finally performed live, etc., if you ask me whether I'd again go through all of tonight's headaches to see tonight's show in tonight's venue, I'm sorry to say that my answer would be no.

Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 02:49:36 ET
Posted by: adorable ghost, Sanny Ynez Valley CA

Anyone going to SB??? Taking my son (12) to his first concert and he's stoked its our boys Don and Walt! And yes, this is THE adorable ghost from the Chumash show and after party...

Date: Wed, August 14, 2013, 02:43:08 ET
Posted by: Eric, Portland, OR

My god. What an amazing experience. The Steely Dan concert at Troutdale (near Portland, OR) was GREAT GREAT GREAT!

Here is the setlist for August 13, 2013
(the 20th anniversary to the day that Steely Dan came out of retirement.)

Blueport (Gerry Mulligan Tune)
Your Gold Teeth (slightly different in a couple places than 2 years ago)
Hey Nineteen
Show Biz Kids
Black Friday
I Got The News
Time Out of Mind
Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More (Walter Sings)
(I heard them rehearsing Monkey In Your Soul, but they didn't play that)
Razor Boy (Female Singers)
Home At Last (Great solo by Walter)
I wanna do everything for you (Joe Tex song I think? Band Intros)
Josie (With a luscious "Fur Elise" electric piano intro by Donald)
My Old School
Reelin In The Years
Kid Charlemagne
The Untouchables (outro)

Very festive night. Donald sounded magnificent, and it was fun and festive all around.

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 23:58:39 ET
Posted by: SS, HK

Strangest show I ever saw was Ben Folds by himself with a piano in Bellingham, WA in 2009.

Strange only in that after a few tunes, he openly solicited requests from the audience and usually played what people screamed out. He even agreed to play duets that were requested and invited on to the stage random fans to sing the 'other' part. And as awful as that had the potential to turn be, the random fans were diehards who could really sing.

I guess the show was a bit like a guy sitting on a stool playing requests on his acoustic guitar. But then not really, because he nailed the songs - the sorts of takes that would have been fine for a live album. So, he had the spontaneity and the quality.

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 22:52:54 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Yeah, Joan, it's a generational thing. I know next to nothing about Gibson. Back in the day I was reading stuff like John Brunner and Thomas Pynchon, folks that I considered his precursors. I need to read something other than Neuromancer...

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 22:03:49 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Mere chattel of the world

Jim Taylor, I sincerely hope KOTW does indeed show up again in Philly or NYC!! Keep those positive thoughts coming...

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 21:59:56 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

I'm not going to say anything bad about Hornsby as I respect him. I find him a bit boring at times, but that's my problem. But comparing his setlist habits to SD is absurd considering he plays solo shows and, when he does perform with his band it isn't a 13-piece orchestra.

With that said, since the "casual fan" only knows ONE Bruce Hornsby song, and he plays it at every concert, it sounds like he does pander to those fans. If he had a dozen or more original songs the casual fans have heard, I'm guessing it would be a different story.

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 21:58:15 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, en route from Twitter

Speaking of "Eminent Hipsters" book, none other than William Gibson has weighed in on my tweet about it, saying "I've read it and it's marvellous, particularly his clinical notes on touring." (The advantage of being a world-famous author: You get to see pre-release copies of books! Damn.)

"Clinical notes"! Love that, can't wait to see book in October, and especially can't wait for the Free Library Philadelphia event in late October...

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 21:22:48 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

I can't speak for anywhere else so far but Louisville, however if they dropped KOTW for lack of audience response, it wasn't because of Louisville, which is the last place they played it. I thought the audience was stoked when they kicked it off. Everyone around me wanted to hear it, and talked about it before and after the show. There may be different opinions, but it had to be for another reason. It'll show up again, just in time for Joan in Philly or NYC. As for Green Book, didn't hear it, so don't know. BTW, I agree about how great Bruce Hornsby is.

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 20:46:55 ET
Posted by: Blake, Los Angeles, CA

If Donald and Walt have nixed King of the World and Green Book due to poor audience response, then I find that very sad. Things aren't going to change if they just stick to playing the hits for each tour. That's why I really admire an artist like Bruce Hornsby. Now here's a musician who really doesn't pander to the casual fans. Sure, he's gonna play "The Way It Is" , but that's where it ends. Bruce changes the setlist for each show and likes to change the arrangements for his other hits like "The Valley Road" and "Jacob's Ladder". The fans come up to his piano stool before each show and write down what they want to hear on paper slips. Bruce takes a real jazz improvisational approach to each show and makes it always unpredictable. He has also recorded with Pat Metheny, Jack DeJohnette and Christian McBride. So go out and attend one of his gigs!

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 09:51:28 ET
Posted by: Hutch,

I think it's interesting that Donald would be in Seattle the first part of November to do a book signing gig.
Maybe just a quick layover on a flight to Hawaii to meet up with someone.

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 09:44:04 ET
Posted by: SS, HK

Hey Mflinn from Boise, congrats on getting to your first ever SD show. You might have wondered if the day would ever come. I had a six year delay in getting to my first show cuz I left North America in 1994 six months before SD played my hometown for the first time. Turned out I ended up going to Japan to see the band for my first time.

I don't quite think I'm jaded yet after nine shows. It's been four years since the last one though and that one was the least intense. I put that down to circumstances, nothing more.

Hope you get to see another one. My second show was probably my favourite.

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 09:33:21 ET
Posted by: Tommy, Denver

Anyone else having trouble seeing the Bluebook yesterday? It wasn't working for me at all...

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 08:57:20 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

For all the crap younger people get for seemingly living their life in the glare of a lit smartphone screen while at concerts, the short attention span and inability to hold focus of the older folk at Steely Dan/Dukes shows over the last few years blows them away. I go to all sorts of, for lack of a better word, "indie" and noise-rock shows in tiny places, and the phones are put away, and the 20-somethings (I'm 33) are staring at the stage for the show. If they want to talk, they leave the damn show.

Get another drink, take a bathroom break, fine. Is it so hard to delay a conversation for 90 minutes, though?

That's not even getting into the drunk mom antics.

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 06:25:36 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, @Mu

Re: Clavinet on I Got The News

The clavinet sound is particulary audible on the bridge from 2:05.
Don't know who played that part, though.

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 05:32:28 ET
Posted by: Cultureshock, UK

Fagenism/Don - As a European I am always stunned by the behaviour of American audiences at high quality music events. Ipod shuffle mentality takes tiny attention spans and truncates them still further. Part of the problem is that SD walks the strange wire between quirky AOR and highbrow jazz ... which is it ? How you percieve it probably dictates your level of reverence for the experience. Jazz fans are traditionally reverent in pretty much all cultures because they see music as a sacrament, and virtuosos as priests. Gigs become feedback loops where the audience input is very real and higher states are attained for all. Faced with audiences like in that video - yes, the SD setlist makes perfect sense.

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 04:12:24 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Sorry, should read" hear the person...

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 04:09:18 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

I too was just watching the SLC and Boise shows. That amount of chatter almost makes listening to the video hard, much less live! You always expect to Baer the person filming, but the general noise is what surprises me. When the Blue Organ Trio was on it was absurd. But both venues LOOKED nice.

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 03:17:21 ET
Posted by: fagenism, She go (I cry)

I have to say I have gained a new level of understanding of why Don and Walt like to stick to hits, from watching concert footage of this tour. Take a look at this I Got The News clip from Boise. Audience members are STANDING UP WITH THEIR BACKS TO THE STAGE, TALKING.

Absolutely unbelievable.

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 01:44:25 ET
Posted by: SS, HK

Mu, I think the clavinet sound in IGTN can be heard during the 'broadway duchess' part of the song.

Date: Tues, August 13, 2013, 00:26:59 ET
Posted by: LTK, En Route to SF gig

On the Bonnie Raitt thread, she is great. Period. She still plays plenty of raw blues at shows and for various specials. Her early work is amazing and I encourage anyone to listen to "Angel of Montgomery" and tell me that is not amazing. Her first albums are all top notch. And, her "Green Light" Album from 19 and 82 was fantastic. Listen to "River of Tears" and love it!!

Bonnie and others not listed by Lurker Ray have appeared with the Dan over the years. Of course, Larry Carlton and Warren Haynes cannot be forgotten.

LTK = out

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 23:40:25 ET
Posted by: Doug G., Santa Rosa, CA

Would love to see Brian Wilson sitting in with Steely Dan too. But Mike Love? Forget it!

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 23:19:49 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

I Got the News - great for a live gig. Sure it sounds great

Clavinet? Out of town with tinny headphones...the noodling about 0:17-0:20 and 0:25-0:29 in the right channel for example is Dean Parks guitar.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 23:19:14 ET
Posted by: BillfromPgh, Pittsburgh

Yes, the Beach Boys headlined with SD as opening act in 1974. Don't think Brian was along for that tour. I had the chance to go to that show in Pittsburgh but wasn't much of a BB fan and figured I'd wait until they came back around as headliners. The wait took 19 years!

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 22:29:18 ET
Posted by: SDV, up on the hill

Someone mentioned wanting to see Brian Wilson guest with Steely Dan. The Beach Boys and The Dan are probably my two favorite bands of all-time, but I just can't picture them performing together... even though they both define the sound of L.A. in their own way, and they each have some of the most sophisticated chord progressions and harmonies in popular music. They even shared a bill or two back in the day.

other similarities: Brian did a cover of Ruby Baby for the Beach Boys Party album back in '66 (which wasn't released until '93 on the BBs first boxed set. Their second is due at the end of this month!) I think Donald was going for a Four Freshmen sound on Maxine, and they were Brian's biggest influence. And of course Donald performed Help Me Rhonda with the Dukes, but I can't think of too many other Wilson tunes that he would even consider.

What's really interesting is that Brian Wilson just announced a fall tour with Jeff Beck. They've been working in the studio together and will be performing both solo and together on stage, along with original Beach Boys Al Jardine and David Marks. Should be worth checking out.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 22:20:55 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

@Dean: That's exactly what I was thinking (about the synth clavinet). And I saw Bonnie and John in Nashville in the 80's. No band. Bonnie opened for John.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 21:23:37 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Joan, points taken and actually I agree for the most part. Bonnie was never exactly in my musical wheelhouse but I always thought she was a pretty good bluesy guitar player and liked what she did on Warren Zevon's album way back in the 70's. When her albums were played at parties and such I liked them fine. But I can't say I owned any.

I saw her in concert in the 90's (at Shoreline I think) with John Prine. I forget who was the headliner but remember I was entertained by Raitt but preferred Prine (not surprisingly as I'm a big fan). When they played together though it was fabulous. Nice Dangential find, too.

Punky I know I am late to the party here and Napoleon and Jim have already pretty much answered the question. I had always assumed it was Sample. But looking through the track-by-track credits assembled at the link below shows no clavinet on I Got The News:

Is there any chance it's a synth clavinet?

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 21:13:54 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

I got out my copy of Don Breithaupt's book, and there is no clavinet listed on the track. Joe Sample plays it on Black Cow. Grolnick on Peg. It's a mystery. Donald plays synths and Feldman plays piano and Vibes. You can clearly hear a clavinet, so I don't know...

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 21:00:14 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

It had to be either the late Don Grolnick or Joe Sample. I don't know which one. I looked all over and I can't come up with better information that in the Citizen Steely Dan box set.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 20:59:17 ET
Posted by: Napoleon, U.K

I think it was a Sample...

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 20:24:28 ET
Posted by: P. Brewster,

Does anyone know who played the clavinet on the studio version CD/LP of "I Got the News"?


Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 19:38:05 ET
Posted by: Donald Fagen, Book Tour

(a.k.a. Shangri-La, Direct from Lhasa)

Apparently, events to promote Eminent Hipsters are in the works:

Philadelphia: Central Library, 10/24/2013, 7:30 p.m.

Seattle: Town Hall, 11/7/2013, 7:30 p.m. - 9:30 p.m.

Crossing my fingers for an appearance at Vroman's in Pasadena...

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 19:35:17 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Typo Division

"there" should replace "their" in post below. Typing too fast...

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 19:20:15 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Not giving up

Dean - I agree w. you about most everything, and agree that Bonnie Raitt totally killed "Dirty Work"... BUT I have to present a contrary opinion to your "take it or leave it" opinion of her. If I were presented only with Bonnie Raitt of, say '90 on, I might agree with you, as she's kind of pablum-ed her material to make radio friendly ditties. However, their is a root form of Bonnie Raitt, whom I loved and listened to a lot in my teens, who was an incredible belting blues interpreter (best album, IMO, "Give it Up"). OH, and a tangential SD connection: On "Give it Up" Bonnie sang a heart-wrenching ballad, "Love Has No Pride," which was co-written by Libby Titus.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 18:44:09 ET
Posted by: BillfromPgh, Pittsburgh

Any of you musicians heard of a program called the Amazing Slow-Downer? It takes any musical file and allows the user to slow it down without changing pitch, for learning licks, etc. I had a version on an old computer and went to download the newest version at this site, only to see that the demonstration screen-cap shows some rather familiar titles: Not surprised, Donald's chord changes aren't easy to decipher at any speed.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 17:41:37 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, SoBe

Other guests at The Steely Dan Show:

Boz Scaggs

Denny Diaz

Dean Parks

Timothy B. Schmit

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 16:01:33 ET
Posted by: Fred, San Jose, CA

Bonnie Raitt (along with John Fogerty) was the special guest when the Rolling Stones played at the HP Pavilion here in San Jose in May of this year. Bonnie always seems to pop up as a surprise guest here in Northern California when a big rock act plays in this area. I'm hoping magic will strike twice and Bonnie will appear with Steely Dan when they play in San Francisco this Saturday.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 14:34:48 ET
Posted by: News, Q

Sunken Condos in Florida today.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 13:10:01 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, nissazzaJ

The AU/NZ part of the 2011 tour was partly a double bill with Winwood, so I guess it was pretty much on the cards they would do a few things together, at least.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 12:51:17 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Thanks for clearing up my confusion with Martha--yes it was with DF band and not SD.

Carlton was announced for the RS night but I think he sat in on another occasion, this time unannounced. I could be wrong. But the point remains that, as "family", as Jazz stated. So I suppose is Elliot Randall, but he's more of a distant cousin who you had a blast with, once when he came to a wedding.

As for Winwood, was it announced they would play together? I can't remember. I'm old and I drink.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 12:02:58 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, I remember nooothing about the horse

Dean, thanks for refreshing my memory.
Yeah, Carlton was announced and so was Winwood, I think. The latter played with the Dan in Astralia and NZ in 2011, and Carlton did a full Royal Scam Night on 2009-09-03 at the Chicago Theater. He might have done similar appearances at other times & venues as well - I really don't remember. But he doesn't count either, imo. He's family.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 12:02:16 ET
Posted by: I was, there


I could have gone the rest of my life without being reminded of Marthagate :) But since you asked, she used DF's band. I don't remember much other than Carlock and Don on melodica. It was a boon for the concession stands.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 11:41:34 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

I believe most (if not all) of these guest appearances have been unplanned, or at least unpromoted. I think Larry Carlton was announced for a Royal Scam show or two, but I'm not sure. I believe this are just happy circumstantial accidents/occurrences. For the most part these guest appearances were not used to increase ticket sales or reach a different audience. For example it was never announced that Bonnie Raitt would sit in on Dirty Work. S

Other sit-ins I can think of are: Elliot Randall (I think) and Howard Levy (or was that for Don's solo tour?)and of course, Martha Wainwright.

Quick aside: I finally heard the infamous Wainwright performance. I agree it was from left field at a SD concert and I probably would have been confused if not a bit peeved. But it actually was fairly interesting if you take it out of context. I was expecting something far worse, based on the comments. BTW, did the SD band play with her or did she drag a whole band up there?

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 11:26:07 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, sitting out

Ok, Bonnie Raitt has been mentioned. What other profiled artists has actually been sitting in with Steely Dan live post 1993?

Mike McDonald of course, but he hardly counts, since he was a close associate for several years in the old days and also plays with Don in the Dukes of September.

Pat Metheny and Steve Winwood has.

I can't remember others at the moment, but then again there's a lot of things I don't remember.

At their RRHOF induction they had the CBS Orchestra backing them up, but I don't think that counts either.

Hard to imagine who would really make a perfect match outside the world of session players where they find their touring band members. Or should we say "found"? They've had a steady lineup for years now.

As for guest artists, I can't say I miss anyone in particular.

Brian Wilson is a legend and for good reasons, but with all respect, I don't think the combo SD + Brian would work very well.

Same goes for Mayer, and Frank Zappa is unfortunately no longer available.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 09:34:52 ET
Posted by: mflinn, Boise

Well, Dave beat me to it but since I don't have to do the set list thing from the Boise gig I agree with most of the rest of his commentary. Veterans of many Steely Dan shows have an understandably different, somewhat jaded, outlook. I'm as long-time a fan as one can be, from day one, brothers and sisters and this was my first show. You cats have just got to appreciate how f#%king cool it was for me to see these musical giants who've been along for the better part of the ride that has been my life. Like a junkie who's been chasing that first high for lo, too many years, you may not remember what it was really like. I'm here to tell you it was just that perfect. No complaints, none. Loved it, love the band and The Two. Now, Boise audiences are a different subject. They talk non-stop at the tops of their lungs about almost anything but the music they came to see. But even that seemed a minor annoyance. Perfect night. It will be the dragon I chase from here on out.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 09:34:24 ET
Posted by: Napoleon, U.K


I've never managed to get in to Brian Wilson or The Beach Boys but, yeah, it would be interesting. It's fun to imagine especially as there's so many for's and against's as to why people would join SD on stage.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but wasn't it hard enough to get Wilson up on stage period let alone with his band or anyone elses? on the other hand, Fagen's appearances for the Soul Revue and the Dukes along with SD's use of session musicians in general suggests they like collaborating.

You're right, any half decent musician (especially ones who studied like Mayer did) would be exposed to SD. I think theres more than the Carlock connection there and there's a difference between being the guy that writes AND fronts the songs as opposed to being the guy who just comes in to help play them.

Admittedly, it's hard to think up artists that could jam with the band as not all songwriters/solo artists play well. Slightly younger guys like Ben Folds would manage but he has his own thing going on and what's he gonna do - take over from Don on a song?!

Any one else care to think up fantasy appearances? Chevy Chase on drums perhaps?...

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 08:35:07 ET
Posted by: Well,, ....

One album they should play in full is Alive in America. That would be interesting.

Date: Mon, August 12, 2013, 07:39:19 ET
Posted by: Dave from Acquisitions, My own private Idaho

Great show at the Idaho Botanical Gardens. The venue (for the unfamiliar) is a large grass field adjacent to the old Idaho Penitentiary and set against and into the foothills overlooking the valley and downtown Boise. Very nice spot. They let in gardens supporters first so we were in the short line and snagged what turned out to be 2nd row seats just left of center.

Deep Blue Organ Trio was a good short opening act. 3 tracks. Really cool uptempo jazzy arrangement of Rufus' Tell Me Something Good.

As the main attraction (no, not torture--I don't need that kind of action...) took the stage, several underdressed, rhythmically challenged old hippies stood up right away and almost got into fisticuffs with the people sitting in lowbacks behind them. Interesting distraction.

Here's the pertinent SD info:

1. Intro--probably my favorite opener since the 1993 medley.
2. Your Gold Teeth--been waiting forever and it didn't disappoint. I just basked in it with a broad smile on my face.
3. Aja--WB's solo very strong. Carlock is in typical monster form.
4. Hey Nineteen--really got the crowd into the show. That WB monologue gets longer each tour but he was able to weave in comments about the penitentiary, the downtown condos and the price of wine at the concessions.
5. Show Biz Kids--really liked the funky arrangement.
6. Black Friday--very tight. Carlock is on all night as always but, as a fellow drummer, I can see he is nails on this track.
7. I Got The News--great to hear Jim Beard replicate some of the piano licks from the album. A nice surprise.
8. Time Out of Mind
9. Godwhacker--not my favorite track but well played.
10. Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No More--WB's voice has improved! I have always struggled with him on lead but I was favorably impressed this time.
11. Bodhisattva--Blew. The. Roof. Off.
12. Razor Boy--nice to hear, a little slow, but the girls' harmonies were solid. The pedal steel solo would've killed.
13. Babylon Ssters--I can listen to Carlock play the Purdie Shuffle all day. Good choice for this set being their first time here.
14. I Want to (Do Everything for You) + band intros
15. Josie
16. Peg
17. My Old School
18. Reelin' in the Years--Herington shows his virtuoso chops here and on My Old School. He's a highly skilled mimic but mixed in some of his own lick too instead of just copying the studio solo work.
19. Kid Charlemagne
20. Untouchables Theme

Weiskopf and Pugh are amazing, and Rosenberg was a solid bottom. I've never been a big fan of Leonhart's solo style but can't deny his talent.

Overall great, tight show. I liked the horn mic front and center for each of the horns to solo. Yes, too much Peg, Josie and Kid for me and not enough KOTW, Green Book, Kulee Baba or Great Pagoda of Funn, but the crowd didn't seem to mind. It's what I expected from their first Idaho show.

Redmond/Marymoor is sold out. Anyone have an extra ticket?

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 23:49:10 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Disregard the last post, kz (except for my RHCP comments--those stand). I misread the time of your post.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 23:46:39 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Macca must not have played for too much longer after you posted, kz. I was unfortunate enough to get a blast of the despicable Red Hot Chili Peppers. I'm afraid to go to sleep now.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 22:33:53 ET
Posted by: Bob,

Any word from Boise?

Nice idea, but If Keith is the only connection between SD & JM then I'd say no because The Great KC was stuck playing for Mayer when he was melting down. Besides what half way decent musician WOULDN'T like SD?

As long as we're keeping this fun, I'd vote for Brian Wilson. Both are musical geniuses who could trade ant-depressants if needed for the evening. Moreover, Wouldn't It Be Nice and IGY and Maxine are sorta spiritual cousins.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 22:12:36 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, obladi


Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 21:20:55 ET
Posted by: Napoleon, U.K

On the subject of guest appearances...

I know he's an opinion splitter on the Bluebook but John Mayer is on the road, must be a fan of the Dan, had Carlock play on a tour of his and can hold his own as a sideman

Would be an interesting combination. I'm sure there's plenty of reasons why it couldn't/shouldn't happen too but hey...

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 19:53:41 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

I'm not the world's biggest Bonnie Raitt fan (I can take or leave her). But she absolutely smoked Dirty Work. It was fabulous. The band (especially the girls) seemed to really dig it, too.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 19:19:36 ET
Posted by: For the benefit of Mr Kite,

What about Carloxk? He'd go nuts in Live & Let Die!

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 19:13:29 ET
Posted by: For the benefit of Mr Kite,

Not a good comparison. 30 Beatles snippets like Paul equals the time it takes to play Aja. B-sides, they sorta did that with he 1993 overture.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 19:05:11 ET
Posted by: For the Benefit of Mr Kite,

Not a good comparison. You could perform 10 Beatles snippets like Paul I. The time it takes to play Aja. B-sides, they sorta did that with he 1993 overture.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 18:48:10 ET
Posted by: Yo~!!,

I could do without Bonnie (over) Raiit (ed) and Dirty Work, too, for that matter.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 18:45:47 ET
Posted by: Jake , Santa Barbara, CA

I remember when "special guests" used to come on stage with Steely Dan and play a number or two. Like when Bonnie Raitt did Dirty Work at the Shoreline Amphitheatre in Mountain View back in 2006. Also, Larry Carlton came on stage at Royal Scam night at the Gibson Amphitheatre in Los Angeles for the 2009 tour. Sadly, this doesn't seem to be happening anymore.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 18:10:04 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

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- Rolling Stone Rebuttal: Dylan, Mike, Boz, Jewels, Binoculars, etc.
- REDUX: Rolling Stone Interview with DF & WB
- Andy Greene Responds
- OPINION: On the Rolling Stone Q & A, Controversy
- OPINION: Journalism's Downward Arc
- UPDATE: DF's Eminent Hipsters
- From the Tweeter Center
- UpDaTe!: Danfests 2013

- Sending love to Carline Ray's loved ones, friends, and fans


- SPOILEResque: Show Setlists
- SPOILER: Opening Cover Song
- SPOILER: Cleveland Review Link
- SPOILER: Kettering Set List
- SPOILER: About that deep cut they were playing (but not any more)
- SPOILER: Concert Review: SD digs deep at Detroit Fox Theatre show
- SPOILER: Fort Wayne: "Log Another Great One!"
- SPOILER: OPINION: Greater & Greater, But No Bucket Lists, Please
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Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 18:06:46 ET
Posted by: S. Marty Pantz, Just Sayin'

I love The Beatles and Macca and all, but it would probably be really fucked up if people showed up for a Steely Dan concert and they played 39 Beatles and Wings songs instead. Do they even have time to rehearse the Beatles and Wings material mid-tour? Donald on Silly Love Songs? Forget it! Live and Let Die might be cool, tho. Jon and the horns would smoke! I could especially hear Jim Pugh and Michael tear up with the trombone and trumpet between verses when there's those chaotic action parts, while Rogers's baritone would anchor things and give it a dark undercurrent. Jon would slay with the guitar.

Did see Macca's show a couple of years ago. Pretty much the same set both nights. Go see hoops comments from last week about setlist queens versus quality and better and better motion.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 18:01:08 ET
Posted by: Lester, Utah

was at Red Butte Gardens/SLC show.. ( my 13th SD/DF show) and, Red Butte is a GREAT place to enjoy music. Bring your own picnic/Cooler etc... but maybe the crowd was OVERFED.. didn't seem to get into the band .. and band seemed a little bit not quite there... SD hasn't been to SLC since one of their first tours in the 70's ... maybe they have an attitude about SLC... Fagen made some sort of comment about "oh, here we are in Salt Lake... uh..." The Sound of the Band was great.. but the backup girls sound wasn't quite right till late in the show... Walter's raps going into Hey 19 was pretty good... as well as his band intro.
while I love everything I heard... I have heard the band more on their game several times before....

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 17:52:06 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

"Wings classics"?

Talk about an oxymoron.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 17:41:35 ET
Posted by: Jay, San Francisco

Paul McCartney put on a spectacular long 3 hour show here in San Francisco this past Friday night at the Outside Lands Festival. Fantastic 39 song setlist of Beatles and Wings classics and rarities. This man is amazing. Sure wish Donald and Walter could do the same for their fans.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 16:51:09 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Thanks for the info.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 14:19:04 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

SS, HK: Now THAT is arcane knowledge!

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 12:58:12 ET
Posted by: SS, HK

Sir Paul is perhaps a fan.

I read that he was seen attending a show in 2007.

And if you roam the internet a bit, you can hear McCartney intro what he calls Deacon Blue during a radio show that he hosted in 1995. He referred to it as a favourite.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 12:02:01 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Has Paul McCartney ever talked about Steely Dan? I read in the comments on YouTube that Paul said that he couldn't understand why Kulee Baba wasn't officially released. Not sure if that's really true but it's interesting to say the least.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 03:30:36 ET
Posted by: Jimmy J, San Francsico

Well, the summer tours are winding down now. Any particular favorite acts that stood out? I think mine are David Byrne with St. Vincent, The B-52's, Fleetwood Mac and Sting. This month I'll be seeing Steely Dan, The Monkees and Heart with Jason Bonham.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 01:21:40 ET
Posted by: GE, SLC

Also Black Cow instead of Green earrings but again I'm thrilled.

Date: Sun, August 11, 2013, 00:20:58 ET
Posted by: GE, SLC

Tonight's how AWESOME. Deacon instead of home at last, but fabulous as always.

Date: Sat, August 10, 2013, 23:47:51 ET
Posted by: Gus, Oakland

Forget it Dave. They ain't gonna play Green Book or King of The World.

Date: Sat, August 10, 2013, 23:43:37 ET
Posted by: Dave from Acquisitions, My own private Idaho

Gearing up for the ID Botanical Gardens show tomorrow. Praying for Green Book and KOTW. Anyone out there going?

Date: Sat, August 10, 2013, 23:43:25 ET
Posted by: Gus, Oakland

I think this tour should be renamed as "8 Miles to Paycheck Day".

Date: Sat, August 10, 2013, 19:45:03 ET
Posted by: Connieinca, Russian River

Is there anyone from Sonoma County going down to San Francisco on August 17th to see the boys? Want to share driving, parking, etc.? My car or yours....


Date: Sat, August 10, 2013, 09:40:17 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Nathan: Have you actually attended a gig? Confronted with the choice of listening to Yesterday or Aja, I go with Aja every time.

Date: Sat, August 10, 2013, 08:05:59 ET
Posted by: ummm, Abbey Road

I thought Paul Beatle was only playing 2 "new" songs; 8 Days A Week & Benefit For Mr. Kite. (?) He's basically been playing the same (but great of course) 35-40 song, 3 hour set for the past 20 years.
And yes, he could get away with singing the phone book or dictionary to rave reviews.

Date: Sat, August 10, 2013, 05:58:23 ET
Posted by: Good, grief

Nathan - leaving aside coming on a SD fan forum to bleat like that, there is some actual complexity beneath that spurious comparison. Paul has demigod status worldwide, reaching one of the biggest demographics in showbiz. People just go because they are in awe of the name - he can play the phone book and they will lap it up.
SD, whether we like it or not, always played to a niche demographic which has only shrunk with time. In order to tour at all they must constantly play a catalogue that would have reached, and appealed to, the ears of the most people possible. Unfortunately, due to the uncompromising nature of the SD musical ethos - that catalogue is very small. The thing you complain about is the very thing that enables them to be on stage at all in 2013. And most hardcore fans would rather see them than not. Any minute you could be attending the last show they ever play. Enjoy.

Date: Sat, August 10, 2013, 03:43:02 ET
Posted by: Nathan, Culver City, CA

SD's setlist is boring and tepid. Makes me sick. In contrast, just take a look at Paul McCartney's current tour setlist. Paul's playing a lot of material that hasn't been played in years. Donald & Walt are becoming a complacent casino/fair act just like Three Dog Night and Paul Revere & the Raiders.

Date: Fri, August 09, 2013, 22:33:16 ET
Posted by: GE, SLC

24 hours before SD. In SLC for the first time in 40 years. Report forthcoming.

Date: Fri, August 09, 2013, 15:50:28 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

CJB, you are a true trooper. I thought I was roughing it by staying in a Motel 6 in Bowling Green for the Louisville show. Just don't make the Dawn Patrol ask you twice!

Date: Fri, August 09, 2013, 14:54:17 ET
Posted by: CJB, Tent & sleeping bag on board

@DonP I'll write up detailed reviews of both Boise & Seattle for the Blue, but give me a few days after the Seattle date to get 'em together, once I'm back home in scenic YVR. Last person on the planet to not own a cell phone, & am (tent) camping all the way to save $. So, "real time" updates are gonna to have to wait.

Date: Fri, August 09, 2013, 14:41:28 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

@CJB Hoping for a report from the show in Boise. These Garden/Botanical venues intrigue me. When you know the show is gonna be great, sometimes the venue is what makes a difference. Safe travels

Date: Fri, August 09, 2013, 14:07:00 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

2.Your Gold Teeth
4.Hey Nineteen
5.Show Biz Kids
6.Black Friday
7.Green Earrings
8.Time Out of Mind
10.Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No More
12.Razor Boy
13.Home at Last
14.I Want to (Do Everything for You)
17.My Old School
18.Reelin' in the Years
19.Kid Charlemagne
20.Untouchables Theme

Date: Fri, August 09, 2013, 14:03:14 ET
Posted by: CJB, Packing for Boise

RR setlist, not much change:

Date: Fri, August 09, 2013, 13:32:56 ET
Posted by: Steely Jan, Salt Lake City

Does any one have the set list from Red Rocks?

Date: Fri, August 09, 2013, 13:08:37 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, zap!

Got to love the Danfests 2013 poster! Excellent piece of work, whoever is responsible.

Date: Fri, August 09, 2013, 12:11:44 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Agreed. Just bring with one of those $1.99 pocket rain ponchos that fold up in your back pocket and you should enjoy the evening no matter what comes--and at Red Rocks that inevitably means rain. But it passes.

If you had problems posting in the past hour, it should now be fixed, not to mention the span should subside for a while again. Thanks.

Date: Fri, August 09, 2013, 08:52:46 ET

Lonnie it is a Red Rocks tradition to have inclimate weather for
Steely Dan. I recall watching some clips from a few years back, where
the band had to stop mid-song. Sounds like one helluva show. The set
list have been great so far, cant wait until Philly!!!

Date: Fri, August 09, 2013, 07:48:57 ET
Posted by: Michael, Cool at night and hot all day

Shucks, that's too bad about Samuel Purdey. Why did they stop after just one album? They should've done many more IMO.

Guess I'll just have to wait for The Bird and The Bee's new album, whenever they get around to releasing it.

Date: Fri, August 09, 2013, 03:36:37 ET
Posted by: SDV, up on the hill

Fez at soundcheck? nice!

as for KOTW, i would guess that Donald just isn't that comfortable singing it so he nixed it. here's hoping they give it another shot before the tour is up. long way to go still...

Date: Fri, August 09, 2013, 03:02:52 ET
Posted by: Lonnie the kingpin, Red Rocks

Wow - the evening at the storied red rocks was like no other. One tune in, heavy Rockies rain - blowing rain - hit hard and stayed for 2/3 of show. Us hearty and wet fans toughed it out. The blowing cold rain got the band too. I was told after the show by band members that all guitars got wet. DFs Rhodes had to be wiped down twice, sheet music blew all over, tarps put over amps and WB personally wiped down two of his guitars and you could hear the towel going over the strings. Despite it all, the band played a great show. I heard the Fez at sound check, too. Going to thaw out now!!


Date: Fri, August 09, 2013, 00:14:29 ET
Posted by: Warren, San Francisco

So why is King of the World no longer on the setlist? Is it lack of audience response? Is it too hard for the band to play? Is it because Donald & Walter decided they no longer like the song? Makes me sad that I won't get to the hear this long awaited song when the tour stops in San Francisco next week.

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 20:34:50 ET
Posted by: LR, Follow up

Confusion? No "new" Samuel Purdey.

A reissue of "Musically Adrift".


Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 20:26:22 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Jazzassin, of course the terminology is good. We need to have a means of communication, after all. I was referring to the rigorous study of things like voice-leading, form, things like that. Putting too much emphasis on academia transforms music into a needlessly tedious chore.

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 19:32:16 ET
Posted by: Outside man, On the beach

Oleander is up your nose.

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 19:11:25 ET
Posted by: Answer,

Oleander is growing outside her door.

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 19:07:15 ET
Posted by: Inside man, on the road

Does anyone know where Oleander is?

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 18:32:24 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, European time GMT+1, last one before bedtime

Re: Theory

I agree, Michael, that listening is the best way to learn. Personally I don't have much choice, either.

But what theoretical knowledge is really good for, is that it gives you a language to efficiently communicate with other musicians that you eventually cooperate with. Trying out ideas etc in the rehearsal room gets easier when you speak the same language. Being able to read music is obviously also a big advantage when you play professionally, e.g. as a session musician. I don't, of course, but I think it's a criteria in certain parts of the trade.

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 18:19:11 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Jim, yeah, you've got the right chart. I'm really glad you like the song so much, but *ahem* (shameless plug) I've got others which are honestly far better. This was just testing the waters, so to speak. When I get around to it, I'll compose something specifically for you to take and do what you want with and call it your own.

Robert, thanks for the Samuel Purdey update. Wonder how come it took so long for the sequel, but no matter. If it's anything like Musically Adrift, my body is ready. Ha ha.

Jazzassin, I'm still working on lyrics, albeit in a rather scattershot way. Playing around with lyrics like this on the chorus:

(first line don't know yet)
Baby's got the stuff
Don't talk back to modern girl (*note* no idea why...)
The future remains the same
(background vocal goes here)

It's subject to change, of course. If Jim or whoever wants to cover it or overdub, cool. Please do share the end result.

Both you and Jim touched upon the strong undercurrent of musical knowledge among the regulars here on the Blue. Maybe we tend to look beneath the superficial aspects, i.e. charts, popularity, image, etc., and deeper into the musical language, the nuances, the little details often overlooked.

One ability you guys have that I don't have the knack for is deciphering SD lyrics. (P.S. If anyone knows what YGTII is about, I'm listening.)

My two cents: forget theory -- the ear is the surest tool. The best way to learn is by listening, observing, doing. Just like that. There's no other way you're going to get good. Sitting there pouring over theory books isn't going to do much. Going to a music school may help in certain areas but there's always the danger of picking up other people's habits and sounding the same.

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 18:13:20 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin F. Kennedy, The Whitehouse

Hahaha, great Marilyn M story! However, I guess she had that very same look when JFK pulled down his pants!

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 17:16:32 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Too late Jazzassin, I read it and it's so fun and informative. Of course your right. I was thinking more along the lines of an all purpose catalog: Jill Saint John working the cash register and Marilyn Monroe working the...well you know what I mean.

There is actually a great story I read somewhere (sorry, can't attribute, and it may be apocryphal) where Marilyn Monroe was complaining that every time she went to bed with some guy, she would see the look in his eyes that said; "OMG, I'm getting ready to fuck Marilyn Monroe."

As if... boyfriend.

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 16:37:36 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, typo master

* "specific", dammit.

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 16:20:44 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, v.4.0

Nooo, pleeease, Jim T! Dooon't! ;D
As a rule I'm always embarrased if I read through my own old babble...

You're right, not many places on the internet outside the pure educational pages with so many knowledgeable people in the field of music. No wonder, after all it's a Steely Dan forum! I learn a lot from people here about this and that. I don't read music, it's more like "spelling music", i.e. I know all the symbols and are able to get the music out of them if I am patient and dechipher it slowly, but can't read it fluidly at all. I'm like you, my ear is my best tool.

As for the lyrics to Green Book ... almost all Steely lyrics, at least at first, seems to have multiple meanings, phonetic qualities/singability always matters etc. But when they finally really unfold after multiple listens and hours of analysis, they often seem to have a much more spesific meaning than first assumed. But you know this of course, and I think your interpretation is close to the truth. I guess it's actually a bit more sexually focused than just making virtual workers; they're probably more like virtual sex partners reflecting your secret fantasies.

But there's a lot of interesting thoughts on the subject on the old Fever Dreams page right here

out of which the one formulated by our host Hoops is one of the better, if I may say so.

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 15:59:19 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

@Jazzassin: Great piece! Another thing that is unusual about Green Book is that it eschews the dichotomy of "pretty melody v dark subject" which Donald and Walter love to employ. Correct me if I am wrong, but the song is about cloning/digitally creating companions/workers out of a catalog of Marilyn 4.0s etc... Shudder.

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 15:45:24 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Jazzassin: Never mind, I found it. Reading it right now!

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 15:38:51 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Jazzassin OMG, I am so sorry! I should have gone back through the archives! There are so many talented people on this site it's a rare privilege to mingle with you. Do you remember when you posted it? I have really wanted to read it again. My music theory is, well, poor, LOL. Damn good ear, though...

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 15:18:45 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, Mt. Ellingtoni

Don, Caravan was and is an awesome tune! No wonder it became a standard, and I wonder how many recordings that exists of it in all kinds of versions. Thousands? The Duke himself recorded it a dozen times or more in very varied arrangements. Some of the really old ones in particular has horn arrangements that must be some of the best ever. Still able to give me goosebumps anyway, and I guess it was quite an unheard and revolutionary composition to the larger audience back then.

The minor w/ raised fourth (and eventually seventh) is a bit of mystery, because it has the same effect on everyone I think. Maybe most chords have, but as for this particular one it tends to always make the listener concious about it, which is not always the case with more stable and harmonic/"at rest" chords. There's good reasons why it's so much used for film music. A Hitchcocky Chord. And very "exotic" like you said, in the right context, like Caravan.

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 14:48:00 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles

Jim T: Carolyn L told me "King of the World" was on the set list in Toronto (right after the band intros), but Donald decided to skip it. Tough to complain though � the night was still peppered with Countdown tunes!

Jazzassin: I remember you weighing in re "Green Book" a few years back. I tend to love tunes that have that Byzantine scale (minor w/ raised fourth + seventh). Duke's "Caravan" sounded so exotic to me as a kid...

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 14:04:03 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, under the flat rock

@Jim Taylor,
I have no reason to doubt that our common Danfan brother and brilliant artist Don Breithaupt wrote a mini essay on Green Book and the devil's interval (tritonus), and if this is correct I'd love to read it! He has a thousand times more knowledge than me on these subjects, but as a matter of fact; yours truly was the one who wrote a little text about it here on the blue a couple of years ago. As often, I of course regretted it after i had posted, knowing all too well I really know way too little about music theory to write about it, and especially here where so many educated and experienced musicians come to read & write about Steely Dan... They must probably think I'm an idiot, which sometimes is the truth. However, I think and hope it wasn't too far out. What's done is done anyway. No edit button here.

@Don B:
I'm really looking forward to hear your new album. The previous one was excellent!

@Jim T & Michael:
I wish you luck with whatever cooperative musical project might come out of your efforts. The song is really well written, and if you, Jim, overdubs something on it, I'd love to hear the result.
Has it ever happened before that people have started to cooperate on music in the spirit of the Dan after being introduced to eachother and their musical ideas here at the Bluebook? Anyway, that's actually a very cool thing! :o)

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 13:22:14 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, Sunny SoBe


"Snake Mary" posts here from time to time
and he is the drummer for "Samuel Purdy".

"Musically Adrift" has been out since 1995
on various different labels.

Highly recommended

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 13:12:31 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

@ Don; yeah it was a tough trade for me at Louisville: out-Green Book; in-King of the World...I love them both. Going to Houston and Memphis, so we will see... When I heard that they were performing Green Book, I thought about your mini essay on the chord structure of the piece...something about the "Devil's Chord" I believe? Where did I read that? Here? Can't wait for the new Monkey House. How's the other literary project going?

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 13:07:02 ET
Posted by: Robert, London

Thought some of you may be interested to know - there's an album coming out next week that is very Steely Dan.�The band's called Samuel Purdey and they're from the UK.�Elliott Randall, Frank Floyd and Elliot Scheiner were all involved in the recording. The reviews I've read in Q, MOJO and Uncut magazines were all really good.�It's out on Monday . I've just pre-ordered my copy from Amazon.�

Here's their Facebook page:

More details and audio samples at their website:

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 13:06:36 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Michael: Thanks, that would be super. e-mail me and I have instructions for how to email a WAV file. It's really easy. They are bigger than MP3 files, but it shouldn't be a problem.

As I started charting this out I have this: 6 bar kickoff/intro; 1st verse starts at bar 7; chorus at bar 22; turnaround at bar 30; 2nd verse at bar 40; chorus at bar 55; bridge at bar 63; chorus plus tags and fades starting at bar 76. If you have a different read, let me know.

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 12:54:55 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles

I guess we who were at the Toronto show should count ourselves lucky we got to hear "Green Book" (the Dan's best 21st-c ditty, IMHO); it hasn't been showing up on subsequent set lists! Hoping to catch one of the L.A. shows too.

Monkey House 5.0 well underway, BTW, for those who are interested. Writing w/ some truly legendary people in SoCal...

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 07:58:24 ET
Posted by: Michael, minor correction

In the middle section, instead of E/D it's Em/D.

Sorry about that.

Date: Thurs, August 08, 2013, 07:55:09 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Jim, I'll upload a version without the melody and post it, but right now the site is down for maintenance (of all the luck).

In the interim, here's the complete chord progression.

C#m7 F#m7 (2nd verse: C#m7 F#m7 C#m/F# Cdim7)
C#m7 CM7
FM7add9 Dm7 Em7 FM7/G

Am7 Dm9 D#M7add9* Am/E Em7 (*note* play D#-F-A#-D)
Am7 Dm7/A Dm9 FM7/G
AM7 FM7 D9sus4 G9sus4 G13* (*note* play G-F-B-C-E)
F#m9 Bbm/Ab DM7/E FM7/G

Middle Section
Ebm/Db DM7add9(omit3) E/D C#7 Em9
Fdim/B Em/B Am7

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 23:43:11 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Michael: I use my real name. You can contact me at jhtaylor2atcoxdotnet, which is also my FB account. I can't seem to get direct access through the Blue to e-mail, so I hope I am not breaking a rule here...

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 23:04:36 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Jim, my bad. I thought you just meant the song itself, not individual tracks. That might be complicated as it wasn't originally recorded in a DAW multitrack setting. If you want to know the chord progression(?), I can write it out and post it here.

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 23:02:19 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Jim, I have it in .wav but have no idea how to upload it, aside from perhaps e-mail or something.

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 22:25:30 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Turtle Choir, you are correct, and I will, if anyone shows up and pays the $5 cover.

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 21:56:43 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

"Dean - I know. Just running with the joke... "

I should have figured that out, Doc Mu. I guess I'm just in too much of a hurry and didn't take the time I should. I feel like Hoops these days--always on the quick.

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 20:15:31 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Michael: I know we've had a our differences in the past (I called you a Troll once during the 2011 tour) but that was very nice stuff. Do you have it in Wav tracks? It's easy to move it around between DAWs with those files. I listened to your video game stuff, but I like this much better.

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 19:24:51 ET
Posted by: Michael,

The Dean, appreciate the feedback.

Nicholas, thanks for the suggestion. (Just between you and me, if people download my music, hey, that's cool.)

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 18:51:12 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Dean - I know. Just running with the joke...

Chi town review. crack band playing crack stuff...but pigeonholed as a nostalgia act?

"Ultimately, we have to say yes, Steely Dan is a nostalgia act if only because the band hasn't written a meaningful song in the last 33 years."

and There's the beef right there. Unless the new GREAT SONGS are played

Night Belongs to Mona
Slinky Thing
Downtown Canon
Paging Audrey
Great Pagoda of Funn
Janie Runaway
West of Hollywood
Lunch with Gina
Greenbook great as any song/recording from the Jurassic Age...and Show this ****** he's wrong.

Otherwise, W&D become a super spectacular version of Lawrence Welk. There's been some mix...and plenty of room and time for more.

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 17:29:09 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Michael, sometimes the shortest distance between two points is a straight line - in the opposite direction. You should get in touch with the 1957 Tail Fin Fiasco. They're easy to reach. They've got the SD sound down. They've got the pieces in place. Your music would fit right in their wheelhouse. Heck, they've probably already listened to it since you posted the link, and they may already be stealing it. We don't want that!

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 12:20:13 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Steely Dan and HIS 11-piece band...gotta love it. But to be fair, that looks like the mistake of a headline editor, not the reviewer as the article doesn't contain that ditty. Jeff Napier's review was actually pretty good for the most part. But there is one line that completely confuses me:

"They poured into the Old National Centre to see Steely Dan, a band fronted by a couple guys who, ironically, had probably beaten up the very types of men who now pack their houses."

Do Don and Walt strike you as guys who were bullies or fighters? I would think they were more likely the guys who got beat up.

Michael, great tune. Only heard it once so far, but really like what I hear.

Gotta run...

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 12:04:47 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Thanks for the kind words. It would be nice to have crack session players backing me up but I can only work with the tools in front of me. Still have to finish putting lyrics to it, maybe live-track some guitar parts, keyboard, etc.

P.S. I've got more SD-ish stuff waiting in the wings.

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 11:51:41 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I understand the need for hits, I do. And my experience may be an outlier, but consider this:

I went to the Indy show with a friend who is in his late 20s, listens to mostly indie rock (harder edge, not the twee stuff), and has no Steely Dan albums. He's a professional musician and knows and respects the hell out of Keith Carlock, but he didn't know any of the songs that were played on that night save for 'Aja,' 'Reelin,' and 'Peg.'

He was beside himself, especially at the deep cuts off of 'Countdown.' Said he'd need days to recover from that show, one of the best if not the best he'd ever seen (a kid-less guy with money, he travels a lot and goes to dozens of shows a year). Mind you, this was someone hearing these songs for the FIRST TIME. Think about how long it took us, even as Dan freaks, to get into Steely albums the first few times we heard them.

I understand his results may not be typical, I'm just pointing out that there's potential here. It's growing.

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 11:51:37 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, in the woodshed

The NUVO (Indy) review had a funny typo.

"These men led their 11-piece band on a smooth, yet rocking run down on Steely Dan history."

I guess that was supposed to read "smooth, YACHT rocking run down". ;o)

Michael, it's a bold thing to come here with self made Dan influenced midi demos, but you are definately on to something! Thanks for sharing!

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 11:29:04 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Another listen is in order

Michael - Good stuff! It's beautifully melodic, and the chorus (i.e. the "hook") instantly sticks to the brain. Fully produced, with lyrics, and you have yourself a winner there.

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 10:24:50 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

Jim Taylor...I'm not sure if there is a danfest in Houston. But there are a number of very nice restaurants/bars in the Woodlands around the venue, many of which are in walking distance. There is a "town center" area directly next to the pavilion that is very nice, and hotels close by. Everything is a bit pricey though so Henry Tinkle prob should not venture down here. Woodlands is a vibrant, suburban area of the city but unfortunately the Woodlands/Mitchell Pavilion is not my favorite. Parking can be brutal if you get there close to start time. If you get there early you can park in the retail areas or at a closeby mall.

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 10:13:40 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Here's a Steely Dan-ish tune I composed. Sorry I don't have lyrics for it yet, but the arrangement speaks for itself.

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 09:58:30 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Along the lines of that review, this is also a classic. It's been posted here before, but it never gets old. Plus, if you read it with your right eye closed, it's like you've never read it before!,2601/

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 09:45:48 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

Steely Dan and his 11-piece band.


Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 08:55:03 ET
Posted by: Mpls Dan Fan,

Here is a belated review of Ravinia, night 2. Recent observations by Hoops and Security Joan were in full evidence that night in the performance, so thought I would chime in.

First of all, make no mistake, GREAT SHOW!! Yes, I hear and read setlist gripes, and most certainly would have loved to hear King of the World and a few other seldom or never played tracks, i.e. Glamour Profession or Gaucho. But as Joan points out, they simply cannot construct a setlist around what many hardcore fans want to hear. Even still, the setlist has nuggets like Gold Teeth, Green Earrings, TOOM and Black Cow that might be less known to casual fans than the typical run of songs at the end of the show. And even if some of those songs have seen heavy rotation in the setlist, there is a reason why: they fucking rock! Hoops could not be more right when he points out that the execution/performance is spectacular this time around. Gold Teeth is a sublime opener, and the 3-song sequence of Green Earrings, TOOM and Black Cow was a killer stretch. I can see why TOOM has been a setlist regular for many years - the band clearly likes playing it and it sounds fantastic. Same for Bodhisattva, which the band tore up.

Overall, I don't think I've ever heard Donald sing better, and Walter's performance was simply much better and more energetic than in past tours. He even took a neat little solo on Monkey in Your Soul, instead of the horn solo in the past.

Ravinia crowd was very lame even though venue was nice. The only energy came from (per Joan's observation) the run of "hits" at the end. No question the band has to know and see that is how they get a reaction. And while many of us have heard Reelin', Kid C, Josie, Peg, etc. umpteen times, if you focus on Jon Herrington in Reelin', you won't be disappointed no matter how many times you've heard it.

If you are hesitating on whether to go, don't hesitate. Go, and enjoy one of the finest bands of our time, who we are fortunate is still playing live!

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 02:46:56 ET
Posted by: turtle choir,

The Turtle Choir had to be Flo and Eddie (Mark and Howard), yes?

Same gents as are on the outtake of Everyones Gone to the Movies.

Also, the Turtles.

Libate some thirsty bastard for me.

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 01:08:03 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, memory lane

Thank you, M/O/D/P!! I so wished I'd saved that "review" before he took the site down!! A real treasure.

Date: Wed, August 07, 2013, 00:24:38 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, I think it bears re-posting.....

For those who didn't see it the first time 'round, here is that wonderful review that Security Joan refers to, from DF's old site.

It's still archived, along with all the rest of the hilarity, at:

I love this kind of stuff.....



Matt Jason Blowitz

Steely Dan, a band that used to be good in the 70s, brought their nineteen-piece band of bored studio professionals to the Halliburton Amphitheater on Tuesday night and offered their obese, geriatric boomer fans the standard mix of "jazzy" hits and "deep cuts". While Walter Fagan did his annoying Ray Charles routine behind the keyboard, partner Don Becker leaned on his amplifier and played the occasional "bluesy" solo, leaving most of the guitar chores to crack session professional Jim Herringbone. In their heyday, the group (now supplemented by three female backup singers and a horn section) were known as obsessive perfectionists who spent millions of dollars in the recording studio torturing the many guitarists who apparently weren't "yacht-smooth" enough to complete the classic solos on their quirky, jazz-inflected songs.

If you connected electric wires to my testicles, I guess I'd have to confess that the "band" was pretty tight. On the other hand, Fagan and Becker seemed to be just going through the motions in order to continue to maintain their expensive yuppie lifestyles while the rest of us are left to fight off terrorists and the federal government, suffer the horrors of climate change or just starve to death because of Obama's economy.

Every single person in the audience had cause to be disappointed about something or other. Becker and Fogelberg refused to play the correct imagined set list that each ticket buyer had spent their life savings to hear. They played too many, and yet, not enough of the old nostalgic hits. Casual fans spent the entire show running back and forth to the porti-potties to avoid hearing any music they hadn't heard thousands of times before, while hardcore fans were again deprived of hearing the obscure tracks the sadistic duo played just two nights ago at the Raytheon Pavilion in Podunk Hollow. As the crowd filed out, many dissatisfied concert goers were heard complaining about the sound, the venue, the weather, the tour routing plan, and the fact that Beckstein and Fagan are still alive and working after more than forty years in the music business. And if anyone knows why the band played the theme from "Taxi Driver" at the end of the show, please clue me in

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 23:59:21 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly

For the one or two setlist gripers here who shall remain unnamed, I sincerely wish Donald Fagen's offical website was still up (he said he temporarily took it down and diverted the URL to a FB page because he was being ripped off by the site administrators) because there was a fabulous review spoof that -- to quote myself in HuffPo -- "skewers not only inept critics but impossible audience expectations." They are running a balancing act, and doing their best to please as many audience contingents as possible. Seriously, put yourself in their shoes for a moment. When they are performing, the audience reaction is a big part of what energizes them (that observation comes from DF directly), and if they don't feed them at least a good portion of familiar hits, they'll lose that engagement. I do think that's why when they do heavy rotation of songs that aren't part of the familiar "hit canon" they are ones like "Godwhacker" that have high energy. Would they prefer to mix it up more? Probably -- my favorite quote from the Beacon "Rarities" show in '11 was Donald whacking his towel and saying "We're going to play what we want to play!" But then they deal with stuff like a recent review that complained about the set list not containing *enough* of the hits "people had come to hear"... the same set lists certain "hardcores" complain about. Here is a fact: Having been to more concerts than I can count, I can say that even when they play those hits, there are always switches, variations, and surprises -- not to mention genius musicianship -- that are a thrill to behold. Donald's vocals always vary, in fact to quote Catherine Russell, a supreme vocalist, "he never phones it in... he always amazes us." In terms of things like solos and song preambles, they always vary, because DF & WB give good leeway to their band members, in the jazz tradition. I love hearing what new twists they will bring to ANY song they perform -- just as I could hear endless alternate takes of "Giant Steps." Sorry for the rant, but if you are at a concert and immediately tune out when a "hit" begins, you are losing out... yes, hearing those rare tracks in concert is an exceptional treat, but popularity doesn't denote inferiority. Damn, you are hearing the greatest f*cking band in the universe! Consider yourself lucky to have that experience.

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 23:53:36 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

My favorite George Duke LP is Faces in Reflection, before production budgets got bigger and -as he admitted himself- they went a little overboard with strings and such.
Of course his Zappa contributions are legendary and Frank said himself self that it might take 2 guys to replace someone as versatile as George, which is what happened.

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 23:42:10 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Obviously Zapps should read "Zappa". Yikes

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 23:41:24 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

RIP George Duke. One of the greats and played with one of my absolute heroes, Zapps.

Doc Mu, the TOOM thing wasn't me. Truth is, I didn't notice. now I am embarrassed I didn't notice.


Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 21:50:15 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

@ Jazzassin: Yes my friend, you are correct! Memories like that are "bittersweet."

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 21:10:32 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, in turtle tears

Sad to hear about George Duke. RIP.

Frank Zappa was/is one of my other all time favorite artists and composers, and his sideman George Duke was undoubtly one of the greatest of all his great collaborators. George also did a lot of other remarkable things in other contexts, of course.

Since I can't come all the way from Norway to Houston for the prize and the company, I wont spoil the contest by giving the answer to your quiz Jim Taylor, but lets just say that one of the members of the Turtle Choir was "phlorescent", and another was kidding, right? ;o)

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 19:58:11 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Dangentially, the first time I saw George Duke playing with Frank Zappa, it was with the Mothers of Invention incarnation that included George Duke, Aynsley Dunbar, Ian Underwood, Jeff Simmons and "The Turtle Choir" (that's how they were featured on the ticket!) FTW and the first drink at the Houston Danfest, who was in the "Turtle Choir?"

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 19:44:13 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

George Duke has died. I saw him 2 times with Frank Zappa in London and once in Cincinnati with Stanley Clarke in what is for me still a Top Ten Concert. He was here recently with Stanley at the New Orleans Jazz Fest and I missed it. A great, great! PLAYER. This is a tribute to his wife, Corine, who died last year. He played to the end...

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 19:19:32 ET
Posted by: Bobby, Newark

George Duke R.I.P. So sad.

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 18:26:03 ET
Posted by: Adam, Reno, NV

So now Donald jumps around like Mick Jagger, huh? Maybe I better go check out the show.

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 18:13:55 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Back from my Epic Louisville/House on the Gulf road trip and now looking forward to Houston. I know this is a touchy subject right about now, but are there any plans for a Danfest near the Woodlands? I had such a great time meeting folks in Louisville! I only know Houston from the perspective of Minute Maid Park before the Astros joined the apostate American League. So let me know on this board, or by e-mail, of any plans(HouDanFan?)and where we can meet. I'll be easy to spot...I'll be the one taking the Five Bucks at the door.

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 17:14:38 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

No interest, now that I know this is the case -- the guy's a psycho. Go off on him.

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 16:52:53 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago


Same guy under different names for the past ten years or so. Even more to me if interested.


Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 15:04:20 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Dean - one of those TOOM's should have read Home at Last You read what's left of my mind...

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 15:01:22 ET
Posted by: Tom R, Sadly not in Colorado

My email is tom AT mysunspots DOT com -- or just click on my name on this and in my last post.

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 15:00:08 ET
Posted by: Tom R, Sadly not in Colorado

Down to the wire within 72 hours of the show so here goes:

I bought some really good, but expensive seats direct from Ticketmaster, for SD in Red Rocks for this Thursday night.

When I bought I was planning a road trip and didn't know until today that I'd be sick andI couldn't go. I

Would to offer these tickets. I paid 598.00 for them. I knowSnuttySbut front and relatively center (second row seats 26 & 27) They're called Platinum Seating. I thought were
well worth it considering the beauty of Red Rocks and my love for the band and music. I have e-tickets that I can send via's free transfer program to ensure ticket authenticity on behalf of all involved. You'd pay immediately with Paypal payment.

I'm a regular guy, been fan since they put out their first album and have heard them all over the country and this was the one concert venue I'd been waiting for.

Sucks getting older, "It's what I doS"

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 12:59:00 ET
Posted by: Micah Tesson , Creve Coeur

Good to see this place is still here. Sad to see a few losers tho.

Someone really took trouble to shamelessly embarrass themselves by posting they'd rather save $5 than meet the Danizens??? Others seriously weighed that option??? Meh.

Henry Kringely Krigley Krinkly would probably turn down a blow job so as not to interfere with his unemployment benefits. Loser.

Too many keystrokes thus far wasted on an episode of Dan Fans Behaving Badly.

Now for the cool part of the summer.

8/5/2013 St Louis

Opener, band only
Your Gold Teeth
Hey Nineteen
Show Biz Kids
Black Friday
Black Cow
Time Out of Mind
Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No More, Walter sings
Razor Boy, girls sing
Babylon Sisters
Love you, Love You (I don't know what it's called, but they did the band intros during it)
Josie with intro
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years

Kid Charlemagne
Outro music with just the band

Band was great and tight. Walter very laid back. Donald's singing is great and he was very animated. Fagen played the mouth keyboard kazoo through Godwhacker. Great instrument. Good to see Donald jump around like Mick Jagger. All he needs to do is bring a stair step machine with him on tour so he'll have his butt in gear for the complete Mick effect ;-) only regret is that they didn't play I.G.Y. or other solo. But that's nit picking.

Go see 'em!

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 11:22:23 ET
Posted by: Earthbound, Laughalot

Hey good peepses,

I've attended DanFests over the years that have run the gamut from super-elaborate to incredibly loose. All have been fun. Sometimes there have been 4-5 at one table, sometimes 45 across an entire room or deck or tailgate. All have been accepted and food or beverages have been occasionally provided. There were oftentimes extra tickets to be had as well. Appearances, styles, politics, socio-econ shit or dialect never meant a fucking thing, it was always about the Dan, and continues to be. Let's stay focused on the tour.

The Rathskeller is a great place to meet up for a pre-fest if the show is at the Murat.
Yes, there are other watering holes nearby, but none affords the space their BierGarten does. I should know, I grew up there. I apologize for not giving enough notice ahead of time about the meet-up. I DID, however, mention to the fella taking the cover charge that we could have several people arriving who would be leaving for the SD show, and he said, "Everyone pays after 6." Great, I thought, so I texted Hoops! that a cover was imminent. Next time, I assure you, there will be banners up and I'll consider breaking out my SD antennae for obvious sighting.

Again, I'm missing my band pretty bad, AND my bruthahs & sistahs too. Keep up the detailed reports, please!

Ho`oponopono, aloha,

Date: Tues, August 06, 2013, 09:22:01 ET
Posted by: Sigmund, Freudville

Good Lord, we've gotten serious. If Mr. Krinkle had simply responded to Jim's post with a tart "Thank you sir, may I have another," we could have all had a good laugh and moved on. Instead, we're mired in whatever all of this is. We're all Steely Dan fans. We're all deeply flawed. Deeply. Screw it. As Sargeant Hulka said, "Lighten up, Francis."

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 20:09:03 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I don't know of a better place. As I tried to express in my post I know very little about Indy nightlife, and this was my first time at the Murat.

That wasn't the point of my post, though. That's a common and up until now acceptable defense ("if you hate it so much, why don't you do it better, eh?") that has been a go-to move for DanFest kvetchs dating back years, but I don't deserve that shot. I wasn't the one bitching, and at no point did I say I knew of "better" places, OK? I just said I was told by one person in the hours before the show that there were others out there, so don't lump me in with that as an easy response.

From the background of your rant I saw someone make fun of some guy's name (if it is a handle, no big deal ... but what if that was actually someone's name; are we doing that now?) and go off on him for something that, yeah, in 2013 seems a little odd. Things are a lot different than they were on, say, the TvN tour, or setting up in parking lots in 1996.

If this is a poster that continually comes on using other handles to complain about every DanFest he *could* go to, fine. None of that was expressed in your rant, just a use of the word "incessant" that seemed way out of place in regards to what he wrote. Your post was mainly just taking a shot at his name, some snide remark about someone lending him five bucks, and NOTHING about this dating back ten years.

If he has been doing this for ten years, then he's a psychopath. Go off on him.

If he hasn't been doing this for ten years, then I stand by my original remarks.

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 19:18:55 ET
Posted by: hoops,

GreatCelestialPlane, KD:

I see where you are coming from, but more background. : this is "Henry's" variation on his usual post to come on here post show and say how he saw us or knew where the Danfans were meeting and thought the fan meetup wasn't good enough, that he saw us (Ravinia, Jazz Showcase, whatever) but didn't want to say hi. The real motive is simply to fuck with us. This isn't a new thing. Has been doing this at least ten years. I can tell from the shows he lists. If you think it's cool, KD and GCP, well, I beg to differ. But you're right I should ignore the jerk.

And KD, if you know a better place, please do let us know.

Consider it a blanket plea to all: if you know a better place for a fan meet-up, then speak up ahead of time or at least be appreciative of the host when you say how it could have been better.


Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 18:18:50 ET
Posted by: Fantasy, Setlist

Cubano Chant
West of Hollywood
The Royal Scam
Hey 19 (With "Talk Jazz" Interlude)
Green Book
King of the World
Time Out of Mind
Glamour Profession
Home at Last
Green Earrings
Black Cow
Deacon Blues
I'm Not the Same Without You
Slinky Thing (Including Band Intros)
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years

Charlie Freak

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 17:53:41 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Jazz, ahem,

That was my fantasy setlist for the summer. Sounded great in your minds, didn't it! ;)

I just saved a drive through traffic, drunks, assassins cons & rapers, construction and cover charges!

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 17:49:18 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I didn't think Henry's post was rude and didn't deserve that response.

I know that Hoops and others are going on two decades worth of either list serve or Yellow/Blue board bitching from others about their pro bono work on Danfests, and Hoops is certainly owed the right to rant as he sees fit. It's a pain in the ass to not only organize these things and then hear as much complaints as you hear praise.

Just don't think Henry deserved that, though. In these days of Yelp and roses, it's easy to find various big bars around the venue and give a cursory call or website visit to see if there are other acts/covers, what have you. Henry said it was "odd," and I don't really think that was inflammatory language. I didn't go to that DanFest, but I probably would have skipped that bar too not because of the cover, but because I don't want to hear some other band in my head as I enter the theatre.

Ironically, I went to the Indy show with a buddy of mine that knows Indianapolis inside-out, and he mentioned several places that were within walking distance of Murat that were pretty good (I didn't make it in time to go to any of them with him, skipped into the parking lot just before showtime), and we planned at meeting at the DanFest bar without actually knowing there was a DanFest there.

My buddy (not familiar with DanFests, this was his first Dan show, he just liked the place you guys went to) got into Rathskellar and didn't pay a cover, and he would have been there around the same time (7 to 7:25 or so) as the Fest. Weird.

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 17:31:02 ET
Posted by: GreatCelestialPlane, Nebraska

Totally agree with Henry, I wouldn't have paid $5 dollars either. Seems pretty unnecessary to me to give the guy such a hard time about not paying a cover. Maybe he doesn't know other Danfans? I'm not new to the band, but fairly new to this scene and I'd probably feel the same way. Seems like a great way to shut out a potential fan from wanting to join in on any future meetups.

And I'm not familiar with the area the venue was in, so I have no idea about other locations that would have worked.

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 17:22:39 ET
Posted by: Tall Paul,

Quicky interview with Donald and Walter about anti-product placement in their songs.

All the way from Omaha..........

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 16:57:42 ET
Posted by: Bob,

How's the Danfest coming along, Henry?

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 14:29:52 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Henry Krinkle:

I drove in under the same circumstances as you, except I also had a car problem and ended up renting a sub-compact. I had nothing to do with planning the get together, but glad I went.

From experience, unless you pick a meeting place that's directly and obviously adjacent on foot to the show, people have a harder time attending. To me that's what's great about where they picked having the fan meet-up. It's not perfect but after meeting there in 2011 and this year, I think they best that could happen.

I agree, the band at the "Beirgarten" wasn't all that great. In fact, I don't remember them even. I think was there for half a song. And, I'd prefer not to pay $5 but I did.

I got to stay for 20 minutes or so and it was worth $5 or even $10 seeing Keith and Janet, Lee, Kitty and others.

For someone who says "no big deal," you are making a big deal out of it. A big reason there aren't nearly the Danfests we used to have is that those who take time to organize them are sick of all the whining before it happens and afterwards, such as your post. I've planned more than a few Danfests outside my hometown. So since you complain incessantly, I'm sure you will agree to plan and have a perfect place for the 2015 Danfest in Indy.

But until then, the rest of us consider you not only a cheapskate, but an asshole to announce that you wouldn't meet us all because you wouldn't spend $5. If you are broke, many Danfans would be generous enough to pay your way, although after your post, I'm glad that no one did. And I'm sure your glad no paid your way so you could have an excuse to whine. Luckily, we didn't have to go home with you, but sadly, you're stuck with yourself. I guess life is rough being named Henry Krinkle. That's probably not your real name--I can't imagine a whiner who picks a name like that to have the balls to post under their real name. But I could be wrong.

Thanks, Earthbound! Your efforts are much appreciated!


Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 13:33:48 ET
Posted by: Lonnie the Kingpin, Red Rockx

Why the grousing about Green Earrings? That songs kicks ass and Mr. Herington can tear that up and rock it!! In my most humble view, they should ALWAYS play Third World Man, Deacon Blues and something cool from the Nightfly.


Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 13:30:54 ET
Posted by: Oliver, Oregon

East St. Louis Toddle-Doo (Band intro)

Do it Again
Black Cow
Rose Darling
The Boston Rag
King of The World
Dr. Wu
Parkers Band
I'm Not The Same Without you
Your Gold Teeth II (Instrumental version intro into main theme)
Barrytown (WB VOX)
Brooklyn (Brats VOX)
Glamour Profession
Everyone's Gone To The Movies
Green Earrings
Time Out of Mind
The Royal Scam

West Of Hollywood
This All Too Mobile Home

Through With Buzz (Instrumental Band Outro)

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 13:27:09 ET
Posted by: Lonnie THE Kingpin, Red Rocks


Forget about this Greco clown. He/she/it clearly has issues that go back to potty training, eating paste and getting beaten up on the playground at school. If he/she/it cannot appreciate the Dan, the I think we all know what Cee Lo Green would tell this clown. "Forget him." Go see the "hits" show from Chicago minus Peter Cetera, of course. LTK is out (sound of mic hitting floor).

See y'all at Red Rocks. Look me up!

LTK (of '65)

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 13:06:39 ET
Posted by: greco's grievances,

Greco, seriously, what do you hope to achieve by listing your complaints on the internet? A virtual group hug from people with similar feelings? A change in the behavior of Donald and Walter? You seem to view the world like a 5 year old, where everything exists for your pleasure, or you cry in public for being wronged.

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 12:33:29 ET
Posted by: Earthbound, The Hoosier State

Just catching up after an incredibly luscious, breezy day lakeside, running full-throttle on a WaveRunner with my wife behind me screaming at every turn. Highly recommend it, but this morning was rough, with my middle-aged body not used to that level of work-out. Wait a minute, this sounds like a Facebook post of what I had for lunch. Sorry.

What I really wanted to say...
Unless something crazy happens, my Pancake Day Tour checklist is done. And yes, each and every time their tour ends, for me, there's a little melancholy that creeps in.
That's when a day at the lake makes for great decompression.

Apologies to anyone who missed the Rathskeller pre-show in Indy. It did happen, and I sent out a missive to the INDY@ listserv and a short heads-up here at BlueBook before the event. Two ladies we met in 2011 and at the FtWayne show this year were there and we had some great conversation. So good to see Lee again, albeit sans his lovely wife this time(wink, wink), and we were surprised and thrilled to see Hoops! show up as well. Ran into Ben in the lobby after the show, and I gotta say, it's GREAT to see a younger fan hitting the road as he has. How many shows? Seven, eight, so far?? Excellent!
Yeah, I get tired of the people seating near me who get so distraught coz they didn't play THEIR song. I wanna say, hey, they played it in '96, where were you? Oh well. I wish I coulda seen Green Book or KOTW this summer, but I'll get over it, hell, I missed seeing The Bear last time. Hmm, I did get to see both WetSideStory and CashOnlyIsland, not to mention HardUpCase, Cringemaker and MyWaterloo. Man, I wish Walter would put some phatass band together and do it solo sometime. That would fuckin' rock. Donald's Morph SICK was that??

Keep the posts coming, folks, I look forward to reading about the on-going saga.

Mahalo, Keith

ps Who's the triple-photo dude on the gray t-shirt?? Solid emotional display of "mood swing" for sure!

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 11:34:06 ET
Posted by: Greco,

DF after the the second song " we're going to do another song from the 70's"

WB "you been a great f@king audience"

WB The whole hey 19 schtick from

DF taking a drag from a "fake cigarette" when he comes back on for the encore.

plenty more. Not fishing. As Rod S said, "their ad lib lines are well rehearsed"

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 08:57:56 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Well, it is a rather jamming tune.

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 04:09:02 ET
Posted by: Ahem...., ,

Doc Mu,

Did they play Time Out of Mind AND TOOM (Time Out of Mind)? These guys really are assholes! They finally play some deep cuts only to go and play the same fucking song twice! Jesus!

Date: Mon, August 05, 2013, 02:47:50 ET
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Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 22:35:25 ET
Posted by: Stly Dan, St Louis

Is anyone getting together before the St. Louis show Monday?

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 21:56:18 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Son of a...

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 20:42:55 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

Greco you said you can almost tell what D&W are going to say the whole show even In between songs? Dude I've read some incredibly stupid things on here before but that ranks near the top. Your really fishing now

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 20:33:49 ET

Never mind the visa vie "heck" for 'fuck, as I re-read your post I realize you did say "fucking kidding me" Just say no to drugs kids,
or you start seeing and reAding things that are not there. DONE BABBLING

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 20:28:38 ET

Jim Taylor, I could not agree with you more concerning Greco's set
list dissapointment. I half expected Allan Funt to appear and say I was
on Candid Camera. My only gripe with your post is I would have subsituted heck with fuck.

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 20:20:33 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, \m/(^_^)\m/

Wow, King Of The World is back! AND Green Book and even YGT2! And Miss Marlene and Downtown Canon, Almost Gothic, Good Stuff, IGY and Don't Take Me Alive!!
That's what I call a setlist!

Only problem is ... retsina is not a venue, Michael. Retsina is fluid candy for adults. You should try it some day. It can easily make a man come up with the most extravagant setlists.

On second thought: Don't.

Nice list anyway!

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 20:14:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Mu, Retsina setlist---nice.

But with that title, I would have expected Home At Last.

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 19:24:09 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

No Hey 19?!? I'm not going.

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 19:19:37 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Whoa, did they really play Miss Marlene!? If they did, that's awesome.

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 18:41:23 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,


Retsina Setlist

Your Gold Teeth II
King of the World
Green Book
Miss Marlene
Black Cow
Time Out of Mind
Downtown Canon (Walter)
Almost Gothic
Razor Boy
(The Borderline Brats sing)
Deacon Blues
Babylon Sisters
Good Stuff

Kid Charlemagne
Don't Take Me Alive

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 18:10:41 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, h

Greco: I sometimes play in a band with a keyboard player who complains that I use charts. He thinks that it's unprofessional and looks bad onstage. My response is that "charts are good enough for Steely Dan." Yes, they make room for solos, but it is always within the context of the arrangement. Everything is "scripted." SD leaves very little, if anything, to chance.

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 17:50:12 ET
Posted by: Greco,

Well since I've seen Steely Live at Popular Creek, Tinley park, Allstate arena, alpine valley, marcus amphather, Chicago theater , riverbend theater and traveled 2k to see them at the coors amphitheater San Diego , I have a point of reference . This band jams . I have high expirations for SD. If I didnt like them, I wouldn't have spent all my money on these guys . I remember the buzz at the shows where Hard core SD would look at each other and say man I can't believe they're playing that song . I've seen them back to back . The set list may have been the same but the arrangements were different . Lately , it seem more scripted . I can tell u almost word for word what DF. & WB will say in between songs. My beef is that it's not spontaneous just a scripted play .
Nothing more to say

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 17:44:30 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Maybe someone can help me out here... I saw them in 2007 at the New Orleans Jazz Fest. I distinctly remember that they did "Monkey" and "Jack of Speed," but it seems that Walter sang "Monkey" and Donald sang "Jack." Can that be correct?

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 17:24:18 ET
Posted by: Henry Krinkle, in the den

I saw that 2000 tour in Chicago. It was a great set list. Boston Rag, Night by Night, Daddy Don't Live in NYC(Walter), Bad Sneakers, Royal Scam, Don't Take me Alive, FM as the closing encore. I also had forgotten they did Monkey in Your Soul on that tour also. Plus the Two Against Nature stuff like Jack of Speed which is a gem. No Glamour Profession at the show I saw. They didn't do as many Aja tunes back then. I love the Aja album, but it is odd they really overload the shows now toward Aja.

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 17:20:18 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Sorry Greco, I should not attack you like that.

I just got back from an extended road trip and had one more observation from the Louisville show. Black Friday left the list of songs that SD has always performed at the shows I have attended. I noticed that on the list, "Time Out of Mind" remains. I have always thought it was a curious song to play at every gig, (not that I have seen that many -7 now since 1993).

But as I watched Donald walk over from his side of the stage and trade licks with Walter, the light came on.

It's just a great opportunity for them to play together, and I can't believe I never noticed it before.

And I agree with Henry Krinkle, the crowd at Louisville was VERY good!

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 14:55:27 ET
Posted by: sit it out,

Hey Greco, you have the right idea about sitting out this tour.

You should also try sitting out the posting of your opinions of the tour.

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 13:49:03 ET
Posted by: Greco,

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 13:46:05 ET
Posted by: Greco ,

Thank you Morgan. I'm just living in the past with the 2k tour
Boston Rag, night by night , glamour profession, don't take
Me alive, Royal Scam. These great songs are not hits. If they did it before , why not again ? When they kicked off the tour playing green book, dtma & one of my favs King of the world . I was vary happy but then they dropped those songs and went back to the hey 19 and that tired WB used to be DF will that 5 minute stupid arse story along with the rest of the same crap. Sunken Condis was voted # 35 last year in Albums . Not bad . Why not play a few from that Cd or some old SD tunes ? Most bands who tour constantly do chang up their set list each tour but Sd keeps playing the tired same ol same ol. I appreciate these guys still touring . I really enjoy seeing them live but now it seems so scripted that I'd rather sit the tour out. I don't want to but with the current show, I just can shell out the doe.

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 01:32:32 ET
Posted by: old id, blue Austin

Die hard fan since �70�s and the dan will be playing my home town Aug 28th. I don�t think they�ve ever played Austin, at least for the many, many years I�ve been following. They are playing at Bass Concert Hall which is where the Austin Symphony played for many seasons and has great acoustics. I am thrilled to to have good tickets in such a nice venue (I�ve previously seen them only at various amphitheaters in Dallas, Houston and San Antonio). At any rate, just had to share my enthusiasm about getting to see my all time favorite band in my home town for the first time. If the set list is good enough for them, it is definitely good enough for me. Nothing to really add to the thread except my enthusiasm but that�s all I�ve got (and a violin to jam with). Adding only that I love this site - been lurking for decades. Thanks.

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 00:24:56 ET
Posted by: Jim Taylor, Hello Baton Rouge

Your Gold Teeth
Show Biz Kids
Green Earrings
Black Friday
Black Cow
Time Out of Mind
Monkey in Your Soul
(Walter Becker sings)
Razor Boy
(The Borderline Brats sing)
Deacon Blues
Babylon Sisters
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years
Kid Charlemagn

Greco, are you fucking kidding me? Which song, or songs would you remove from the list?

Date: Sun, August 04, 2013, 00:15:38 ET
Posted by: Indy, Setlist

Same as Louisville but scratch KOTW, Green Earrings, Babylon...insert I've got the news, black cow, and deacon blues...good show, pretty subdued crowd...

Date: Sat, August 03, 2013, 16:47:11 ET
Posted by: Lurker Ray, The Swamp

"On the Ravinia train back to Chicago. People next to me debating whether Steely Dan is better than Willie Nelson. I want them off the train."

Probably one of THE greatest tweets ever.

Thanks Hoops. Made me laugh. Made me
miss Chitown and yet not miss it if you
know what I mean.

Sounds like you are enjoying the
shows and that is all that matters.

Safe travels,



Date: Sat, August 03, 2013, 14:07:09 ET
Posted by: Trying again, don't delete

Thanks again, guys, for the heads-up on the times. Yeah, if it were up to me I'd have my face pressed against the building for soundcheck, but as I said I'm herding cats here.

Date: Sat, August 03, 2013, 13:47:03 ET
Posted by: Crowd, Control

I'm not sure the younger kids understand concert etiquette; not a slam against them, just that they don't know any other experience; they've grown-up in an age of technology requiring every minute of their attention. Plus, I think outdoor venues, in general, lend themselves to a more relaxed atmosphere, where talking almost seems acceptible. My best concert experiences have always been at indoor venues; I think one tends to focus on the act and the music more at them. Also, back when I went to the bulk of my concerts, cell phones weren't yet a reality, so there wasn't that distraction, and cameras of any type were strictly forbidden.

Date: Sat, August 03, 2013, 12:11:50 ET
Posted by: hoops, in a hurry or I'll miss tonight

Dean's correct on what happened. I'm traveling and harder to fix things. Sorry about the deletion.

If anyone's ever in doubt about deletions or missed posts, don't hestiate to email me...if you're a regular, I'll even give you my phone.

--- back to the qusstion--

Deep Blue starts right on time at, say 7;30 if the show starts at 7:30. They play very briefly. Seems like 20 minutes or so. SD on maybe 30 minutes after listed show time, maybe a few more than that. All in all, seems much less time before Sd hits the stage than in previous years.

And DBO3 is not only excellent--they did some great Stevie Wonder from their latest album--their comments are soulfully droll.


Date: Sat, August 03, 2013, 11:54:09 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Where's That Fatback Chord I Found?

Trying again, I can't answer the deletion question. best guess is, Hoops accidentally deleted it when he got rid of a large number of multiple posts (exact same post) by Lonnie. I first assumed Lonnie made a mistake. Then I thought it might have been a little joke--repeating the same post (like the claims SD just repeats the same setlist). Funny actually, but funnier if he posted the same thing every other year.

As for the start time---well this can be tricky I have found. The time on the ticket SHOULD be the time the first act comes on--and my experience is that is typically the case. But I have been burned by that, on an occasion or two, in the past. I'm not sure the experience at other venues on other nights can assure you of what might happen at your venue on a specific night. My advice is to call the venue and ask. Sure it's fine to ask here, but don't get mad if someone tells you something about their experience and you find it doesn't work for you at your venue.

My advice? Plan to be early so you don't miss anything.

Date: Sat, August 03, 2013, 11:32:59 ET
Posted by: Trying again, don't delete

Trying this for a third time, not sure why it's either getting lost in the machine or being deleted on purpose.

If a show time is listed at 7:30, what time can we expect the Deep Blue Trio to go on? And the Dan after that? I have friends coming in from out of town, driving huge chunks of distance, that I'm attempting to look out for. Not trying to miss the DP3.

Anyone that has been to previous shows, any reply would help. Thanks. And an explanation for a deletion would help, too.

Date: Sat, August 03, 2013, 11:30:51 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

There are so many derivations from that pre-tour conference call that are showing up in various recent newspaper features that I wonder how much out of that call we haven't heard, and if a full transcript might show up some point down the way.

Date: Sat, August 03, 2013, 11:24:12 ET
Posted by: hoops, on my wqay


I love Phish (and The Dead, Allman Bros, etc) and that's they're about--don't knock it. My point is that core to Steely Dan's recordings has been the constant upgrade tweeks, to their albums and that's my approach to the shows. That's why they're great.


If you've been to a show already, I guess that's your opinion. If you haven't, well, that's your opinion too, without giving it a chance. But I wouldn't waste my time complaining here From your perspective, that's even more repetitive than the set list.



Date: Sat, August 03, 2013, 02:32:19 ET
Posted by: Lonnie the Kingpin, Colorado

Maybe GRECO (roman) needs to become a phan of Phish or some jam band that plays a different set list every night and he/she can dance around in a peyote trance and enjoy the sets lists that are not "20 years old." I am puzzled over one thing: if old Greco is so disenchanted with the Dan and their setlists, why post at the Bluebook. Just move on. Better yet, enjoy whatever they play because when they are gone it is over. I say let the SD Orchestra play the phone book -- and I will be there. See y'all at Red Rocks on 8/8!!!


Date: Sat, August 03, 2013, 02:01:34 ET
Posted by: Satch, San Diego

Sorry Hoops, but you ain't changing my mind about the current state of this tour. The setlist is getting more predictable and complacent. I was really looking forward to hearing tracks from the Countdown album like King of the World when the tour started, but now I know this won't happen with the exception of The Beacon shows in New York.

Date: Sat, August 03, 2013, 01:45:23 ET
Posted by: Jive Miguel, Bogata

Nice going, 8baseballgeek!!

Date: Sat, August 03, 2013, 00:32:57 ET
Posted by: Hackensack, missouri

Great viewpoint Jim. Maybe you will shut them all down with their negativity and grumpiness

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 20:31:50 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Listening to a mint Japanese pressing of Aja, right now...

Hoops, big thanks for the way you just framed things. I (and lots of others) have tried many times to explain the differences between reading a list of songs on a computer screen vs. actually being there in the 19th row - hearing the band, the nuances, soaking up the atmosphere, enjoying things for what they are and not what they aren't or what someone thinks they should be - all that. I'm afraid none of us have been successful enough so far to convince those "Steely Dan Fans" who seem to have an inexplicable hate-on for virtually all of DF and WB's more popular material.

The good news is that your post should finally make things clear to even the slowest amongst us, and as such it should be mandatory reading for anyone who feels the uncontrollable urge to repeatedly soil the proceedings here with petulant and bizarrely selfish complaints about the band's choice of live offerings.

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 20:25:31 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa FL

Hoops, I couldn't agree more.

Really looking forward to the show in Clearwater in Sept.

Songs I've heard them play again and again can sometimes sound brand new. I know when "Black Cow" opened the '09 tour it was like I had never heard it before. Frigging awesome !

Even if I get 2-3 "new songs" which would include "Your Gold Teeth" ..I'll be a Happy Camper.

But for the folks in NYC at the Beacon, they'll be in heaven
listening to "King of the World", "Gaucho", and I even think "Here at the Western World" will make its long awaited return.

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 19:27:48 ET
Posted by: DanFan,

Thanks for the reviews!

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 17:55:34 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, when am I NOT on the Quick?

Hey, Donald's a Book keeper's --- no, ACCOUNTANT'S --- son!

[Hey! My niece is an actuary--knock it off! ;-) ]

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 17:49:26 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Amen, Hoops

With regard to the seating choices, I typically try to sit as close to the stage as possible. The one exception I have found is in St Augustine. With the exception of the first row, the orchestra pit seats are terrible at our Amphitheater. They are small folding chairs tied together and the section is not tiered. So if you are in the 4th row, for example, your vision of the stage might be impaired and you will likely be uncomfortable. Here I opt for the center section in the first section of the regular tiered seats---in front of the soundboard if possible,.

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 17:42:45 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

@Hoops, Amen brother!

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 17:38:32 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Bravo, Jim. You prick me and I bleed, however, with the gratuitous swipe at accountants. We're not all list keepers and scorekeepers, yet we have to keep fighting these damnable stereotypes. I would peg Greco and his ilk as more like actuaries! (Only accountants and actuaries will even smirk at this post, much less laugh. But believe me, it's good accountant/actuary humor.)

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 17:15:40 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, when am I NOT on the Quick?

Casual Fan, and others...

LIke many of us these days, running about 100 m.p.h. covering family commitments and work stuff so I'm never sure I'm able to attend a show until the very last minute. Sorry about the delay in reporting, but most of all, I'm now glad to have time to relive the amazing shows!

That said, I was really fortunate that, at the last minute, I could attend the shows in Detroit last Saturday and Highland Park last night. Looks like I can make Indy as well, knock on wood.

Here's the thing: I keep reading these reports and set lists from the likes of Greco, etc. and all this stuff about how it's the largely the same setlist, implying it's pretty much the same show. You know, those posts sound like they were made by accountants. Set list tallies, spreadsheets, comparisons, etc.

Many of us Steely Dan fans come at it from a different angle, it's all about the performance. I mean, look at when they didn't tour and there were only recordings. For years there were the seven albums plus "The Nightfly" and the 1968-1971 demos. And you know what? We die-hard Steely Dan fans would buy the recordings again again.

I think I own at least a dozen copies of every album and as many as two dozen copies of "Aja." These albums have the same tracks--set list, if you will--and I kept/keep buying another copy when a new once comes out. Why? I keep appreciating what's been made just a little different, what's been perfected just a little more. They keep getting better and better. A couple of different versions of "Aja" were re-issued on vinyl in the past few years. Bought 'em again.

It's all part of the Steely Dan fan ethos.

Same here in terms of the set list. True, I'd love to hear some songs from those six magnificent solo albums, but even with Our Favorite Duo sticking to some plums, there's so much that's breathtaking.

So about the two shows I've seen: the playing is stupendous. I think the only mistake I caught was Donald mixing up a line in "Godwhacker" in Detroit, and even then, he recovered like an ice skater who gracefully gets up during the Olympic figure skating competition and then ultimately turns in a 9.9 performance.

So what do I think is so great?

We were reminded a few weeks ago that Donald said he was working with a vocal coach. Whatever the case, he sounds great. I'm not saying he's doing falsettos and all. Instead, he's very gracefully singing in his range. I saw the Dukes last year and he (and Mike McD) seemed to be having trouble with notes and such. At these shows, Donald sounds great. Never a missed note. His range might be more limited (or maybe not) but he sings on solid ground, never straining. That's one awesome part.

Then there's Walter's playing which has gotten even better. Solos are great from "Josie" to "Home At Last" to even a quirky end to "Monkey In Your Soul," as I hopefully have it down right. I kept pausing to think, "Wow!"

Herington's been great too. Last night's solo on "Reelin'" was the best ever! Just amazing! Jon's been great. Keith has been awesome on everything from "Aja" to "Bodhisattva" and just simply solid. Ditto for the band, the back up singers. With the singers, they have never been better, either.

Even on some of the stuff we regularly hear in the set list, it's the performance that's making them so awesome. A month ago, I would have thought of hearing "Hey Nineteen" and "Josie" as obligatory but not the highlight of the shows. At Detroit, and again last night at Ravinia, I kept thinking during both that they sounded so fresh and never better. They sounded really fresh and incredibly engaging.

Now Walter did use similar raps at Detroit and last night during "Hey Nineteen," but, really, do you think 99% of the people were at both shows? Also, the crowd went nuts when the opening chords of "Hey Nineteen" were played. That's what most of these people want to hear.

If you are considering where to get seats, assuming you can still get a ticket and have resources, I definitely would go for getting as up close as you can. Last night it was frustrating at first. I was back 40 rows in the pavilion. Remember that at Ravinia, many in the pavilion are series holders and more than a few of them are there because they purchased tickets to other shows as part of a package deal with the Steely Dan show. Except for the two guys to my right (decent friends of Zac), everyone around me was talking through the show. (Kept hearing cicada's or something like them at dusk too.) I asked, I glared, I made motions like I was listening to their private conversations, etc. Nothing worked. Finally, around "Hey Nineteen," I decided I would leave my seat and hang out at the edge of the lawn, in front of the pavilion and find some lady to dance with, which I did. That made it a lot more fun. Fortunately, I ran into a kind friend from the Greater Dandom who had an extra seat in the (Hey) 19th row where I was able to sit next to a true fan who flew in from NYC for the show. Made all the difference, as I could hear clearly, less talking, fewer drink and potty runs. I was amazed at how many empty seats there were -- in the rows, as well as the box seating areas. So from that point, maybe two thirds in, I was especially able to hear and appreciate how great the band sounded.

So if you are one of those keeping set lists, with the main purpose of keeping some bucket list, ticking off a list which Steely Dan songs you've heard in your lifetime, then this isn't your tour. But if you are like me and many SD fans, you'll go because you want to hear how things keep getting better. IMHO, the two shows that I've seen this year are best performances in about ten years, since Roseland 2003.

Just like I'll keep buying those albums when they get re-released, I'll keep getting to these shows.

And all that aside, the shows have been a great, spirit-boosting experience when there's so much stress everywhere else in life. Go to a Steely Dan show, do spring for the better seats if you can, and have your spirits lifted--a truly religious experience of the best kind!


Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 16:28:27 ET
Posted by: Michael,

Interesting that Donald mentions material from 1984 which was only half-finished, yet was never incorporated into either TAN or EMG.

At any rate, I hope they follow through. It's been about a decade since their last studio outing.

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 16:13:07 ET
Posted by: Ted,

Why are you posting a 2006 set list for? To confuse the shit out of everybody?! Dang man...get a grip!

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 13:00:51 ET
Posted by: Greco,

not much difference

Steely Dan Setlist at Starwood Amphitheatre, Antioch, TN, USA
Jul 10 2006
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Time Out of Mind
I Got the News
Hey Nineteen
Green Earrings
Black Friday
Dirty Work
Show Biz Kids
(with Michael McDonald)
Do It Again
(with Michael McDonald)
(with Michael McDonald)
Don't Take Me Alive
(with Michael McDonald)
Kid Charlemagne
(with Michael McDonald)
Reelin' in the Years
(with Michael McDonald)
My Old School

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 11:56:47 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

hoops, can we get a review out of you?

What are your thoughts, good, bad, and ugly?

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 11:53:28 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick


You were there last night?

Please clarify.

I was there. It sure wasn't the same show as ten years ago...anywhere...

More--but please clarify, Greco.


Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 11:40:01 ET
Posted by: ???,


Did you end up going anyway after all of the shit you proclaimed about the setlist for over a year? You caved in dude.

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 11:36:12 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

Sorry if already posted. I recognize a comment or two in here, but there seems to be some new material. I don't know,maybe I missed it before.

At any rate, some comments from this article:

What changed in the touring landscape to turn Steely Dan into a touring act over the last 20 years?

Becker: �Everything has changed. First of all, we were just beginning to headline shows in the �70s. We were usually in a band with, like, eight people or something and were earning $3,500 a night tops. And you were playing under extremely variable circumstances.�

Fagen: �The venues and the menus and the hotels and everything has gotten better. Now it�s much more fun to play. I�m glad we turned into this big-time touring band later in life.�


Is new material in motion at all?

Becker: �It�s in the air. It really is. ... I can smell it. Next thing is then you taste it, then you start to feel it.�

Fagen: �We do have some things that I�m remembering just now. We have some songs that are really good ones that we only half finished back in, like, 1984. We have a bunch of things. Put it this way: Any other band in the world would have long ago finished or mixed or whatever these old things that were lying around with a great ta-da fanfare. But we just don�t play it like that.�

Becker: �That�s not the way we roll.�

Fagan: �We think it�s good stuff. It�s like every time we get together we end up just going fishing. Maybe it has to do with our age.�


As I say, some of that I've seen before, but I don't recollect all of it, like making $3,500 for a show.

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 11:36:09 ET
Posted by: Greco,

Where have I seen this movie before?

same ol same ol

Steely Dan Setlist at Ravinia Music Festival, Highland Park, IL, USA
Aug 1
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(Gerry Mulligan cover) (The Bipolar Allstars only)
Your Gold Teeth
Hey Nineteen
Show Biz Kids
Black Friday
Black Cow
Time Out of Mind
Monkey in Your Soul
(Walter Becker sings)
Razor Boy
(The Borderline Brats sing)
Home at Last
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years
Kid Charlemagne
Untouchables Theme

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 11:29:35 ET
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Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 10:12:47 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

I love that setlist....Bucky Boy 10 mins in the corner....preferably with your face to the wall...with duct tape around your mouth

Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 08:23:33 ET
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Date: Fri, August 02, 2013, 05:18:06 ET
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Date: Thurs, August 01, 2013, 23:26:02 ET
Posted by: DocMu,

Yeah - that's almost the same setlist as Dallas...10 years ago. It's hard to believe - that was a show. The Austin gig coming up should be great - may still grab a tix on the sly.

In the meantime enjoy this new one from a man with a large SD influence - Paddy McAloon from the upcoming Sprout album Crimson/Red

watch your legend grow...

amazing what gets left out in the snow...

Date: Thurs, August 01, 2013, 18:56:06 ET
Posted by: jioorbiowq, Spain

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Date: Thurs, August 01, 2013, 18:03:05 ET
Posted by: Greco,

official set list .

Yes thank God no hey 19 rap

Still very tired setlist. I thought that when they played DTMA , GreenBook, King that they made the right choice but back to the same ol same ol

Wonder if Walter will start saying you've been a great f@cking audience or will Don light up another "fake cigarette" for the encore

Steely Dan Setlist at Embassy Theatre, Fort Wayne, IN, USA
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(Gerry Mulligan cover) (The Bipolar Allstars only)
Your Gold Teeth
Show Biz Kids
Green Earrings
Black Friday
Black Cow
Time Out of Mind
Monkey in Your Soul
(Walter Becker sings)
Razor Boy
(The Borderline Brats sing)
Deacon Blues
Babylon Sisters
F�r Elise
(Beethoven cover)
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years
Kid Charlemagne
Untouchables Theme

Date: Thurs, August 01, 2013, 17:50:16 ET
Posted by: Buck, Los Angeles, CA

I'm sick of Hey 19 and Walter's aimless rap. You're lucky if you went to a show that didn't include that overplayed tune. Please bring back King of the World in the setlist!

Date: Thurs, August 01, 2013, 16:25:57 ET
Posted by: Ted,

No Hey 19, but Black Cow & Green Earrings & Deacon Blues & Babylon Sisters???

Date: Thurs, August 01, 2013, 14:56:05 ET
Posted by: Jazzassin, words of comfort?

"To those saying the Boston Bomber on Rolling Stone cover encourages terrorism � I've read 100's of issues and never made shit corporate rock"

� Jeff Greenspan

Date: Thurs, August 01, 2013, 13:44:51 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, when am I NOT on the Quick?

I think I posted that I hoped/expected/took for granted/took solace in that the Rolling Stone issue featuring the Boston Bomber at least wouldn't sell well, thus not propagating the severely edited and distorted interview with Donald Fagen. Well, sadly, NOT!,0,1641868.story

Date: Thurs, August 01, 2013, 13:31:24 ET
Posted by: Greco,


Same set list for 20 years with a few minor exceptions.

Your Gold Teeth
Show Biz Kids
Green Earrings
Black Friday
Black Cow
Time Out of Mind
Monkey in Your Soul
(Walter Becker sings)
Razor Boy
(The Borderline Brats sing)
Deacon Blues
Babylon Sisters
My Old School
Reelin' in the Years
Kid Charlemagne

Date: Thurs, August 01, 2013, 11:44:44 ET
Posted by: bikemann17, nj

Heard part of a radio commercial for a restore the shore concert in Jersey that had Steely Dan on the bill! Anyone know about it? I didn't hear a date

Date: Thurs, August 01, 2013, 10:56:49 ET
Posted by: hoops, on the quick, in chicago

Personal to SD Dan Fan:

I sent you an email and it bounced back. Please email privately. Thanks.


Date: Thurs, August 01, 2013, 10:47:29 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

Many, many covers of SD on youtube at any given point in time.

This one particularly reminds me yet again of the timeless (and ageless) appeal of one of the greatest bands, ever.

I know Don and Walt aren't particularly sentimental fools, but I hope they catch this one and somehow let it be known that they appreciate the compliment they are getting from these kids.

Date: Thurs, August 01, 2013, 10:35:21 ET
Posted by: Bikemann17, nj

Pretty sure I heard ad for some restore the shore concert in Jersey that had Steely dan on the bill. Missed part of the commercial didn't hear a date. Anybody know???

Date: Wed, July 31, 2013, 21:18:27 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, Philly

snippets of "Fur Elise" have achieved almost meme status on SD tours, often appearing during intro to Josie, but -- others may have better memories -- other songs as well

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