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Date: Sat, April 01, 2017, 15:06:54 ET
Posted by: Just Sayin',

The Money Quote, wrote:

"'Everyone's got an opinion on the Internet but few argue it responsibly.'

And it's not likely to get any better anytime soon.

Not as long as enough internetty types think that juvenile insults + name calling =
a cogent argument. You know, something a six year old might believe.

To be fair, it's not just here, it's everywhere. Remember when the internet seemed
to hold so much promise? Now look at the damn thing... "

Years ago, I just thought that the trolly behavior here was simply a distortion of Steely Dan's astute snarkiness. A tad comparable in spirit to Stalin twisting Marxism or St Paul twisting the Gospel.

Now "it's just not here, it's everywhere."

Indeed it's even all the way at the top in the White House.

"And it's not likely to get any better anytime soon."

I guess SD culture was ahead of the curve again.

--Just sayin'

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 22:52:48 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Ph-reD: Can't disagree.

The book to get is Don B's on Aja...for a learning experience.

While I think the songs are more consistent, yet varied in style and approaches...C$ has Larry Klein's production, the SD band, the Sound and mix, and some of Walter's best songs going for it: Downtown Canon, Paging Audrey, Selfish Gene, God's Eye View, Three Picture Deal, Upside looking down...but the dub stuff gets repetitive. Bob's Not Your Uncle Anymore and the title track are awful. Walter sometimes runs out of this to say on the last verse, but the the pen is sharp, it's spectacular.

Downtown Cannon and Paging Audrey are as good as anything on Aja or Katy Lied.

Ideally, Larry would have produced Sunken Condos...and it's not as sophisticated in arrangements as TvN, but I think Sunken Condos is the best album of the Dan/solo discography since the Nightly. Michael Leonard and Donald whipped up a delicious concoction. Crisp, Sharp. and very alive, despite the DIY backbone. It shines. A case in translation is the deep bloom of sound when one of the more straightforward tracks Weather in My Head was played live on Letterman. Wow.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 22:13:20 ET
Posted by: Abu, Jamaica, Queens or Jamaica?

Circus Money is very good lyrically. There is no doubt where much of the twisted story-lines of SD originate. The musicians are without a doubt top notch. My biggest "complaint" (for lack of a better word) is... what is with all the reggae? I don't get it, perhaps. Just one man's opinion.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 20:13:45 ET
Posted by: The Money Quote, Right Here

"Everyone's got an opinion on the Internet but few argue it responsibly."

And it's not likely to get any better anytime soon.

Not as long as enough internetty types think that juvenile insults + name calling = a cogent argument. You know, something a six year old might believe.

To be fair, it's not just here, it's everywhere. Remember when the internet seemed to hold so much promise? Now look at the damn thing...

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 19:36:21 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

This, despite the vitriol (and things I don't agree with) is better. Reminds me of the newsgroup days.

How much of Walter's guitar rig is going to be sent to those vanguard shows on each Classic ROCK Coast this year? His batch of amps and guitars didn't seem too restrained at Coachella, I'm wondering if that holds up.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 19:37:14 ET
Posted by: Phred,

Dr. Mu, I think you are missing the 30+ posts from the guy who keeps making XXX posts about D + W and the band members, not to mention you. The guy who posts clearly can't get any.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 19:36:14 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

This, despite the vitriol (and things I don't agree with) is better. Reminds me of the newsgroup days.

How much of Walter's guitar rig is going to be sent to those vanguard shows on each Classic ROCK Coast this year? His batch of amps and guitars didn't seem too restrained at Coachella, I'm wondering if that holds up.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 19:21:55 ET
Posted by: walter becker, fuck it

Who gives a fuck?


Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 17:50:27 ET
Posted by: B Chassen,

Hoops, et al. -

I am talking about as a BASS PLAYER/GUITARIST, NOT as a COMPOSER.

Please note the diff.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 17:44:42 ET
Posted by: RC,

Yes, everyone has a right to criticize Walter or Donald or whomever. And I have a right to criticize Bill Chassen, Marvin, and you for having such mundane and superficial criticism. Sure there are valid criticisms of both. But the three of you offer nothing substantial except a verbal complaint that you don't like something. A six-year-old complains much the same way. Eveyone's got an opinion on the Internet but few argue it responsibly.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 17:38:50 ET
Posted by: Classic Rock Guy, Anytown USA

I love me some good Classic Rock. Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Journey, Steely Dan (just the hits) etc. The only thing that could make these Stadium gigs better is if they added a 3rd day with Bon Jovi, Rush and Springsteen & ESB (The Boss!) as the closing band.
That is America baby. Love it or leave it!

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 17:25:03 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Circus Money is pure gold, as hoops states.
11ToW was cool, but the drum machine on all but 3 tracks takes away from it imo.
Walter expressed himself how his 2nd is a much more complete effort, beginning with his singing and co-writing with Klein.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 17:16:09 ET
Posted by: Friday, going home

I think people have every right to criticize Walter or Donald. I strongly suggest you read the message boards at Almost everybody there is bashing Don Henley for tarnishing The Eagles legacy by accepting to reunite for big money at The Classic East/West concerts. Some are bashing Joe Walsh and Timothy Schmit too.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 17:03:43 ET
Posted by: RC, Ohio

(Please delete other screwed up posts and replace.)

Great! After a half day hiatus of the bluebook, it comes back. Then some fool starts posting the same pathetic debate that's been running for 25+ years. Give it a rest instead of being such a loser. I bet it's the same loser who complains that the set lists are too similar.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 15:40:57 ET
Posted by: Marvin, Tx

"And of course Circus Money was the best Steely Dan-related album since 1990"

Uh, it wasn't even the best WB solo album since 1990.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 15:25:16 ET
Posted by: Barney Beacon, NJ

JK- Where would Donald Fagen be without Walter Becker? Probably singing silly love songs on 101.5 light FM

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 15:18:16 ET
Posted by: JK, Ohio

That's because Walter has an inflated ego. Where would Walter be today if it wasn't for Donald?

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 15:09:33 ET
Posted by: hoops,

I pretty much entirely disagree . Walter is great. Donald Fagen solo stuff is good enough, but Walter takes Steely Dan to a whole new level in so many ways. And of course Circus Money was the best Steely Dan-related album since 1990. Walter plus Donald equals something greater than the individual sum. If anything, I get tired of the same repetitive criticisms.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 14:42:26 ET
Posted by: Bill Chassen,

Is anyone else kind of bugged by when WB says some rather cocky/stupid things, such as:

When referring to choosing drummers for either a studio/live gig, "So many drummers, and only so much time".

Doesn't he know that if he wasn't one half of SD, most people/musicians would not give him a second look/listen?

And when he judged Paul Mc Cartney's "Yesterday" he referred to it as sounding "half finished". I'm not a big PM fan but WB probably could never have written a song like that if he didn't get an assist from DF or Larry Klein or Eleanor Rigby.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 14:12:51 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Anyone buy The Steely Dan File?

I was hit with so many typos and inaccurate stuff in the first few pages (maybe they were just false narratives that I reacted a little too strongly to) that I never got past the first chapter. My mother in law broke it open in our house a few years ago and I had to talk her into reading the Sweet book instead.

(Which, still, isn't ... bad? Still don't get the Sweet enmity, despite all his stretch work and fourth-hand accounts.)

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 13:46:35 ET
Posted by: Gary, CA

I once had Brian Sweet's book but then I sold it at a used bookstore. It was just gathering dust. I saw the new Steely Dan FAQ book at a local bookstore but there was no impulse to buy it. These books aren't fun to read like Donald's Eminent Hipsters.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 13:36:36 ET
Posted by: Gary, DE

I was never enamored with the Sweet book, but it's the more readable of the two. The FAQ book is essentially a reference work intent on covering every obscure fact related to SD. I spent a couple of days browsing it after I picked it up and haven't looked at it since.

Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 12:39:11 ET
Posted by: Jim,

I've read the Sweet book a few times; I've read several pages from the Steely Dan FAQ.

Both are good books. But as I like to point out, more than a few here on the Blue and in similar forums have knowledge that's effectively equivalent to someone working on a PhD or at least a Masters in Steely Dan.

So think of your 7th grade or high school or even first year college History of Western Civilization texts. They were good for what you needed to learn at that point. They have a good survey of things that was reasonably accurate. So it is similarly with these two books.

But go ask two PhD students in Russian history and another in say American history. They are going to have two different takes on the Bolsheviks. And they likely would sniff at those history books I mentioned as being simplistic and generalized. Hence there's quibbling.

Same with these books. They are good books, but long-time, hard core fans are going to quibble with both. Do I quibble with the Sweet book? Yes I do. But I do recommend it, especially if your passion for Steely Dan is new. Same for the Steely Dan FAQ. I did in fact quibble with the six or seven entries that I read. But I do recommend the SD FAQ. What's quibble? For example, the story of a particular Fagen song is mentioned. The FAQ gives a general summary of he song, but overlooks that it has a sort of Wood Allen twist to it which changes the story a bit and makes it rather humorous. If you take the FAQ at face value, you'll miss that humorous twist. That's my idea of quibbling.

Hope that gives a useful perspective.


Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 23:16:22 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Throwback Thursday:

Date: Thurs, March 30, 2017, 22:38:10 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

I'm about 25% of the way through Steely Dan FAQ. It's not gripping, but it's interesting. I never read the Sweet book, in part because of the way that it is panned on the Blue. If anyone has read both, how would you compare them?

Date: Thurs, March 30, 2017, 19:03:57 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Yeah, I have enough stuff to handle with just 1 Bogus Persona!

NYB has "multiple personalities," but Peter Q isn't one of them, amazingly enough...

Correct in that anons and focus on SD show coverage were the reason for the emergence of the Blue. Yellow migrated to a registration model with dual music/Dan and Other threads. St. Al lost interest and got involved in a start up.

Date: Thurs, March 30, 2017, 18:39:16 ET
Posted by: My theory,

My theory is that it's Peter Q as NYBill, the troll, Fake M/O/D/P, etc.

Date: Thurs, March 30, 2017, 17:05:50 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Thank you, Jim.

Date: Thurs, March 30, 2017, 15:23:03 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P,

I have not addressed, directly or indirectly, a certain noisy, disruptive poster since his unfortunate & untimely return, so I'm wondering why this latest soilage effort attempts to implicate me. I want no part of these unfunny repeated attempts to sabotage the board.

Needless to say, the most recent post attributed to me (Thurs, March 30, 2017, 14:02:14 ET) is not mine. This is getting a bit ridiculous - and all without even a shred of actual humour.

To paraphrase regular contributor and all-round Good Guy Don Patrol, when you've met up with people and actually spoken to them in person, you are far less likely to be disrespectful with them on the internet. I have met a good number of the people here, but I haven't had the pleasure of meeting any of the cowardly anons, nor have I met the one poster whose idea of entertainment is to post lengthy screeds filled with insults & profanity directed at other community members. I guess I should be thankful for that small mercy.

Anyways...if the purpose of all this is to stop people from contributing here, Mission Accomplished. Well done.

Date: Thurs, March 30, 2017, 14:02:03 ET
Posted by: EC, NY

You know, this place should not be allowed to be disrupted by one poster who obviously has some kind of severe anti social personality disorder. It's always the same guy.

We've lost some really good posters over the past few years, and I have to wonder if it's because the format is just too open to abuse by people who think that filling a comment with dozens of personal insults is OK.

My .02 cents worth.

Date: Thurs, March 30, 2017, 11:59:59 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Outta here

In case it's not obvious to everybody here, that last comment posted as "Gino F." isn't me, it's this goofy LaPage guy again, treating the Bluebook like his own personal playground, again. For what it's worth, I have never posted pretending to be (or representing) another contributor here. Apparently the guy who complains about people doing just that is OK with doing it himself, though.

I'm not sure why this one particular poster continues to pop up now and again, repeatedly soiling the board with post after post of pointless, rambling, insulting garbage, and I realize that I'm the one who must have set him off once again with my sarcastic "Bon Jovi" concert review request, but I don't want to encourage any more of this unfunny, badly written stupidity, so I'm done posting here until further notice.

I think there's a big difference between "funny" and "annoyingly stupid".

Date: Thurs, March 30, 2017, 10:26:37 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I wasn't aware that I ever lent any "punk sensibility" to anything Steely Dan has done since 2003, Guy Who Will Not Post Under His Name.

No idea what's going on in this board at the moment. No idea why we're still sticking to the same anon rules that forced the creation of this sort of board back in 2001.

Not that any of you, any of you that are posting beside Dr. Mu and I, were around back then. If anyone on here does have the time and space in life to spend it on a Steely Dan message board lighting up different personalities, grow up and grow a consistent handle.

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 23:16:18 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P,, wait...<buuuuurp>...hahahahahaha!!

Dear Laughing Boy,

Even though nobody here likely has any idea who you are - or aren't - I'm reasonably certain that we're all simply devastated by your recent scathing post, not to mention horrified by your clearly-stated decision to deliberately attend a live "Hall & Oates" performance.

I for one wish you'd reconsider your rather harsh position on this critically important matter. And I would encourage you to explore all possible avenues vis-a-vis the concert-ticket-refund possibility. For your own good, we understand.

Still, and without diminishing the value of such beloved lowbrow acts as Rush, Springsteen [snicker], Thundercat, or Hall & Oates in any way, I'd like to point out that so far as I can see, so far nobody here has voiced any enthusiasm at all for these gawdawful East/West Classic Hip Replacement Fests. Nobody. As far as I can see.

Or maybe you just came here to pick a fight and then tell us all you're going to see "Hall & Oates" again.

If that was the case, well, I'd like to point out that you could have done that without hurting everybody's feelings like you just did. I think I pointed this out in an earlier post here - "words can hurt".


Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 20:14:24 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, West of Chinagrove


Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 18:55:17 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

the John Kay solo LP with "Giles of the River" on it is my latest $3, eh, "find." It'll be worse than the Poco album with "Dallas" on it, I'm sure. Forcing myself to listen to it later tonight.

The last song on that Navasota album, not the one Don and Walt wrote, is really quite fun in a hokey, 70s sort of way. Very much like a Barbasol commercial.

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 18:25:41 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

The promo video is from the DofS.Go figure.That's why no Walter.

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 17:55:06 ET
Posted by: Finch, CA

I think Timothy B. Schimt will be the special guest during Steely Dan's set at the Classic West/East concerts. There's some talk about Timothy joining Steely Dan over at the Eagles Online Central forum boards. It makes sense. Timothy worked with SD on The Royal Scam, Aja and Pretzel Logic.

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 17:08:25 ET
Posted by: Really?, NYLA

First of all it's Corey, NOT Corry and here are his tour dates-


Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: Really?NYLA,

First of all it's Corey, NOT Corry and here are his tour dates-

6/9 ñ Las Vegas, NV ñ Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
6/20 -Bellingham, WA ñ Wild Buffalo
6/21 ñ Seattle, WA ñ Studio Seven
6/29- St. Charles, IL ñ Arcada Theatre
6/30 -Waterloo, IA ñ Spicolis
7/7 ñ Kansas City, MO ñ Record Bar
7/8 ñ Indianapolis, IN ñ The Vouge
7/14- Pittsburgh, PA ñ Hard Rock CafÈ
7/16 ñ New York, NY ñ Highline Ballroom BIRTHDAY SHOW
7/18 ñ Norfolk, VA ñ The Norva
7/20 ñ Ashville, NC ñ Grey Eagle Music Hall
7/22 ñ Louisville, KY ñ Trixies Entertainment Complex
7/28 ñ New Orleans, LA ñ Southport Music Hall
7/29 ñ Houston, TX ñ White Oak Music Hall
8/10 ñ Hollywood, CA ñ The Whisky
8/11 ñ Hollywood, CA ñ The Whisky

His new wife's name is Courtney. Corey & Courtney Feldman. How cute.

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: M/O/D/PCredit where credit's due and all that,

KD - The phrase "Colostomy Fest 2017" combined with the descriptively correct use of the wonderful word "unseemly" is not just a stand-up double, it's a base-clearing stand-up double. Thanks for the well-timed laugh.

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: Doc Mu,

MM - shared with Doobies



Skunk? - shared with Doobies

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: Doc Mu,

A best fit match would be Steely Dan, Doobies and EWF. I might go see something like that.

I wonder if Azoff is bright enough to sell these concerts PPV or distribute to AXS for taped viewing later.

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: Toby,Los Angeles

Did you get the Steely Dan Newsletter this morning? It mentions Steely Dan will have at least one special guest with them at The Classic East & West concerts. Who could that be? My guess is Michael McDonald. I checked his website and he has no gigs scheduled on those dates. Denny Dias and Skunk Baxter are other possible guests.

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: Doc Mu,

KD: Yep. Show Bizness Kids making Concerts of themselves...

I think this is the kind of concert paradigm we'll see for now on. Fewer venues. Shared headliners. Vegas.

I reading last year's papers...

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: KD,asdf

By "worse," I don't mean Steely Dan is going to be on The Voice any time soon, they're not popular enough for that. They are going to be more selective in the way they make their money, though, in ways that don't push them to a 100-degree stage in July, in some random American shed pitched 20 miles away from what used to be a big town.

Like I said yesterday, who knows? The free summer could actually see studio time. When The Two do come out from behind the curtain, though, it will probably be for more and more unseemly appearances like this.

As if their recent mid-summer appearances at [YOUR KINDA-TOWN HERE] wasn't a cynical exercise to begin with.

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: KD,asdf

1. Why is anyone surprised by any of this? Our favorite band is a nostalgia act. Make your uneasy peace now, it's only going to get worse.

2. Not shocked at all at no Becker in the promo ads. I'm constantly surprised and pleased when Rolling Stone or other sites include him in any shot of the band. Ultimate Classic Rock (a website I thought would be terrible, but actually has its moments) even showcased him sans Steely Don recently in a short post about Colostomy Fest 2017:

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: Sick, to my stomach

Have you noticed Walter Becker is not in the promo video trailer for the Classic West/East concerts?

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Special guests:
LA: Cher
NYC: Michael Bolton

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: Al W, TX

And on March 29 in the year 2017 did the name JOURNEY appear conspicuously - eye to eye with STEELY DAN - on

How long before Fagen participates in one these superstar jam sessions of Don't Stop Believin?

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: M/O/D/P,In the hall eating a bowl of oats

The proof is all there, in living color:

What? No "Bon Jovi"?? But he's managed by Azoff, and he's every bit as shitty as "Journey"! What a travesty.

But no "Hall & Oates"?? That's just unforgivable. Why are we even talking about these shows if "Hall & Oates" aren't involved??

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: Kory, J

I remember in 1992 that the Shea Stadium outfield was in shambles for weeks after an Elton John/Eric Clapton concert. Surprised they are playing two baseball stadiums in the middle of the season.

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa

I would imagine a Blu-ray/DVD release of "The Classic" will
likely be released in time for the Holidays.
I remember Billy Joel's big Shea Stadium show made it onto
DVD the year that it occurred.

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, FL

And all East Coast headliners are Azoff managed acts!! More money, more money.

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: ,Falling asleep

It's happening! Steely Dan to appear at Classic East & West concerts! Ticket prices range from $150 - $950 not including fees and go on sale April 7 to the general public. American Express customers get early access to tickets on April 3. No single tickets will be sold. Only 2 day tickets.

Date: Wed, March 29, 2017, 
Posted by: , trying to get to sleep

Daryl Hall beat Donald Fagen in "The 25 Funkiest White Boys in Music History". Daryl Hall came in first place and Donald came in sixth:

Guitarist Robert Fripp said "Daryl's pipes were a wonder. I have never worked with a more able singer"

Date: Tues, March 28, 2017, 
Posted by: Abu,Monkey Around?

Hey Don Breithaupt... just wondering if you have been batting around the idea of a Monkey House concert tour? That would be absolutely sweet. Many others here likely would agree. I'm sure you would do a show out here in the southwest Left coast, which is now your unofficial Headquarters. Would surely love to see you guys instead of The Halls of Oates.

Date: Tues, March 28, 2017, 
Posted by: Newcomer,really digging this place...however...

Just stumbled upon this neat place, The Hall & Oates Bluebook, by accident, because I was googling various Hall & Oates topics. I love all this Hall & Oates talk, and I'm sure I'll fit right in here as a huge Hall & Oates fan!

One thing I don't really understand (remember, I'm new here) is, why all the talk about Walter Becker from Steely Dan? To the best of my (extensive) Hall & Oates knowledge, Mr. Becker has never played with Hall & Oates, or been a guest on Daryl Hall's TV show, nor has he played with either Hall or Oates as solo acts.

Look, I know I'm in no position to demand anything, but can we please keep things focussed on the subject at hand - "Hall & Oates"??

Date: Tues, March 28, 2017, 
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa

I also saw Hall & Oates, Michael McDonald and the Average White Band a dozen or so years ago here in Tampa. It was a good show.
I got to see "Hall & Oates" all by themselves in Clearwater about 3 or 4 years ago. Really good show, but it was a bit on the short side. I think it was like 90 mins top.
I also love the TV show "Live from Daryl's House". Daryl
Hall is a brilliant performer, ageless and his voice only gets better.
When he had Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top) and they did an old Hall and Oates tune "Love You Like a Brother"...that was fantastic.

Date: Tues, March 28, 2017, 17:09:15 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

War Babies is an early Hall & Oates album that's worth a listen. It was produced by Todd Rundgren, and predates their maximum pop phase.

Date: Tues, March 28, 2017, 16:59:34 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

That sounds about right, Matthew, bummed I missed it. At that age the only outdoor shed/stadium shows I'd been to since the days of Lollapalooza were the Dan shows from the 2000 and 2003 tours, so I didn't really know what to expect with the classic rock big bill. I was mostly a small club rat back then, the only exception being the Chicago shows at bigger places that I bartended.

I'm not smart or dumb enough to handle the Walter Becker as John Oates riff.

Maybe they're writing a new album this year, during the time where the tour dates used to go? Who knows? Someone check Gary Katz's Twitter feed.

Date: Tues, March 28, 2017, 16:47:52 ET
Posted by: Matthew, Petaluma, CA

I'm very sorry to hear you walked out of that Hall & Oates concert, KD. You missed out on the big grand finale set with the Average White Band, Michael McDonald and Hall & Oates. They played a pretty long set together too. Maybe 5 or 6 songs with extended funk jams. It was the best part of the show.

Date: Tues, March 28, 2017, 14:53:09 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

TV -- Exactly. Hall and Oates were one of my least-favorite bands until 2003 or so. Not my favorite now, either, just picking out certain albums to listen to recently for the third or fourth time (some winners, some losers).

Date: Tues, March 28, 2017, 14:44:38 ET
Posted by: TV, Baby

KD. You're not old enough to have endured constant H & O from '81-'85. If you had, they would not be among your most listened to today.

Date: Tues, March 28, 2017, 13:58:23 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I saw the AWB/McDonald/Hall and Oates tour in 2004, I was the youngest guy there by about 20 years (it predated Yacht Rock) and I left during the Hall and Oates set. Just too close to adult contemporary crap. I like the band, even listened to Along the Red Ledge last night (what a weird album), but even in the middle of nowhere I felt like we had better things to do.

It was a gift ticket but probably one I would consider buying today if the same lineup went out in 2017. They're three of my most listened-to acts over the last two months.

Date: Tues, March 28, 2017, 12:02:46 ET
Posted by: Brew, scratching my back

Donald really squashed a good idea by disbanding The Dukes of September. The Dukes could have done some interesting things like adding Joe Jackson to the lineup.

Date: Tues, March 28, 2017, 06:34:41 ET
Posted by: Fred, NY

Garfunkle and Oates are named Katy and Rikki.

Date: Tues, March 28, 2017, 00:35:30 ET
Posted by: Wilson, New Rochelle NY

Comedy team Garfunkel & Oates talk about how they met John Oates:

Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 23:36:14 ET
Posted by: Wilson, New Rochelle NY

I've always wondered why Walter started to make an ass out of himself with his "Hey 19 schtick". But now I realize he's doing it to poke fun at himself and his "deadbeat" image next to Fagen.

Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 23:05:54 ET
Posted by: Wilson, New Rochelle NY

Comedy folk duo Garfunkel & Oates should add another member to make it a trio: Garfunkel, Oates & Becker.

By the way, John Oates loves comedy so he really dug Garfunkel & Oates and asked them to open for him at a show in California. He said they all did a mock striptease version of "Maneater" together.


Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 22:03:44 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Comparing Apples to Orangutans

Can I compare a factory-mint 1984 Ferrari 512bbi to a derelict 1993 Hyundai Stellar?

Can I compare Edvard Munch's "The Scream" to a black velvet painting of dogs playing poker?

Can I compare a four hour steak dinner at Delmonico's to a bag filled with soggy McDonalds "food"?

Can I compare a two week visit to Maui with a two hour visit to the DMV?

Can I compare a Louis XIV armoire to a white particleboard dresser from Craigslist?

Can I compare a Rolex Submariner with a Rolodex Submarine found in Chinatown?

Can I compare Walter Becker to That Guy From "Hall & Oates"?

Sure I can. I can do any damn thing I like.

Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 21:17:04 ET
Posted by: Wilson, New Rochelle NY

Did anybody see 2004's Rock & Soul Revue Tour with The Average White Band, Michael McDonald and Hall & Oates? Really hot triple bill. Hall & Oates invited Michael McDonald onstage to sing some songs with them near the end of the show. McDonald blends in anywhere.

Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 20:49:19 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Am I allowed?

Can I compare Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad to Archie Comics featuring Betty & Veronica? Both of these examples of literature are printed on paper, and both have nice covers. Heart of Darkness is a "one-off" story, and the Archie company has released hundreds & hundreds of issues with Betty & Veronica in them. Betty & Veronica work their asses off trying to get Archie's attention, and some of their stories take place in small clubs. Heart of Darkness does nothing - it just sits there on the night table waiting to be picked up. Tomorrow, the Archie Comics Group will release another Betty & Veronica story entitled, "There's Really No Similarity At All". Meanwhile, Joseph Conrad does nothing. To me, Joseph Conrad is the Isaac Asimov of Industrial/Commercial Buzz-Saw Manufacturing & Repair.

Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 20:49:12 ET
Posted by: Wilson, New Rochelle NY

John Oates said in an interview a few years ago that he feels Hall & Oates have become a prisoner of their own hits. They want to play deep cuts but the audience just wants to hear the hits. I suppose the same problem has plagued Steely Dan along with other veteran rock acts.

Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 19:25:39 ET
Posted by: Wilson, New Rochelle NY

Can I compare Walter Becker to John Oates of Hall & Oates? Both of these artists are overshadowed by their music partners. Walter Becker has released two solo albums and John Oates has released five with a new one on the way next year. John Oates is workin' his ass off trying to get his own music heard by playing free shows at record stores and playing solo gigs at small clubs. Walter Becker does nothing. Tomorrow John Oates will be releasing his memoir entitled "Change of Seasons". Walter Becker does nothing. To me Walter Becker is the Rip Van Winkle of rock music.

Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 18:27:12 ET
Posted by: Matt, CO

Looks like everybody's jumping on the Las Vegas residency bandwagon. Now Ringo Starr & His All Starr Band have announced a Vegas residency at Planet Hollywood from Oct. 13-28 this year.

Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 18:10:52 ET
Posted by: Joey, Sunset Grill

Don Henley's Birthday Bash on July 22 in Dallas, TX is going to be huge! Special Guests already confirmed are Stevie Nicks, Joe Walsh and Timothy B Schmit! I've already got my ticket and plane reservation.

Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 15:54:19 ET
Posted by: chris, Mississippi

Saturn, SoCal- Hey jerk off! They added the second show at Humphrey's because there was a demand for it. What a moron!

Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 14:05:41 ET
Posted by: Stu, San Bernadino CA

Humphreys fun facts:

1. America has played there the most amount of times. This Summer marks the 24th appearance by the group.

2. The chef has cooked for Presidents Barack Obama & George W. Bush.

3. Actor John Stamos is a fan and attends concerts there regularly.

Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 12:24:57 ET
Posted by: Saturn, SoCal

Steely Dan always charges the highest ticket prices at Humphreys. That's why they happily added a second show. Donald & Walter will squeeze out every penny they can from concertgoers.

Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 11:49:01 ET
Posted by: $teely, Damn!, SD in SD

Humphreys Concerts by the Bay 2017 lineup
All shows are all-reserved seating and at 7:30 p.m., unless otherwise indicated. Shows marked with asterisks (**) are already on sale through Ticketmaster. All other shows go on sale Saturday, April 1. More ticket information appears below.
Wednesday, April 12: Father John Misty, with Tim Heidecker, $40 (general admission/standing room only)**
Thursday, April 13: BANKS, with Raury (general admission/standing room only), $45**
Monday/Tuesday, April 17-18: Steely Dan, $185**
Thursday, April 20: Lila Downs, 8 p.m.$48**
Sunday, April 23: David Crosby & Friends, $61**
Wednesday, April 26: Willie Nelson & Family, with Steve Moakler, $129.50**
Tuesday, May 23: Rodriguez, 8 p.m., $48**
Wednesday, May 24: Melissa Etheridge, with Celisse Henderson, $63
Friday, June 2: Dana Carvey, $67
Tuesday, June 6: Sheryl Crow, with Lukas Nelson & Promise of the Real, $96.50
Wednesday, June 7: Brian Setzer’s Rockabilly Riot! 8 p.m., $65
Sunday, June 11: Taj Mo: The Taj Mahal & Keb’ Mo’ Band, 7 p.m., $60
Monday, June 12: Ziggy Marley (general admission/standing room only), $63
Monday, June 19: King Crimson, $115
Friday, June 23: Gordon Lightfoot, 8 p.m., $52
Sunday, June 25: Blind Pilot (general admission/standing room only), $35
Thursday, July 13: The Temptations and The Four Tops, $72
Friday, July 14: 50 Summers of Love, featuring Micky Dolenz, Mark Lindsay and The Fab Four, $60
Monday, July 17: Chris Isaak, $85
Wednesday, July 19: Happy Together Tour 2017, with The Turtles, featuring Flo & Eddie, The Association, Chuck Negron, The Box Tops, The Cowsills and Ron Dante, 6:30 p.m., $59
Tuesday, Aug. 1: Huey Lewis & The News, $98
Tuesday, Aug. 8: Diana Krall, 8 p.m., $113.75**
Saturday, Aug. 12: America, 7:30 p.m., $69
Thursday/Friday Aug. 17-18: Lost 80’s Live, featuring Tony Hadley, Cutting Crew, Wang Chung, Naked Eyes, Berlin, Missing Persons, The Flirts and Gene Loves Jezebel, 6:30 p.m., $58**
Wednesday, Aug. 23: Bryan Ferry, $89
Thursday, Aug. 24: Garrison Keillor’s Prairie Home “Love and Comedy” Show, with Richard Dworsky & The Road Hounds, Aoife O’Donovan and Fred Newman, $75
Friday, Aug. 25: Dave Koz & Larry Graham, $66
Saturday, Aug. 26: Pink Martini, 8 p.m., $62
Sunday, Aug. 27: The Gipsy Kings, featuring Nicolas Reyes & Tonino Baliardo, $82
Wednesday, Aug. 30: The Doobie Brothers, $98
Wednesday, Sept. 6: Stephen Stills & Judy Collins, $60
Saturday, Sept. 9: Jake Shimabukuro, 8 p.m. $50
Sunday, Sept. 10: George Benson & Kenny G, 7 p.m., $95**
Wednesday, Sept. 13: Indigo Girls, $45
Thursday, Sept. 14: Steve Winwood, $103
Friday, Sept. 15: Il Divo, 8 p.m., $110
Wednesday, Sept. 20: City and Colour, $39
Saturday, Sept. 23: The Beach Boys, 5:30 and 8:30 p.m., $80
Sunday, Sept. 24: Bill Maher, 8 p.m. $110
Thursday, Oct. 5: The Mavericks (GA/Standing Only), $45
Friday, Oct. 20: Felipe Esparza, 8 p.m., $30
Sunday, Oct. 22: Carla Morrison (on sale date tba), 8 p.m., $45
Sunday, Oct. 29: Keali’i Reichel, $55
Tickets for this year’s Humphreys Concerts by the Bay season go on sale at 10 a.m. Saturday at the Humphreys Restaurant box office, 2241 Shelter Island Drive; online at; and by phone at (800) 745-3000.
For most concerts, there will be a first-day sales limit of 12 tickets per show, per person, with a 10-show maximum. Premium hotel and dinner packages are not available through Ticketmaster, but can be purchased at the Humphreys Restaurant box office and by calling (619) 224-3577) for dinner packages and (619) 224-3411 for hotel packages.
The Humphreys Restaurant box office will be open from 10 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. Saturday. From April 2-15, the box office is open daily from 11:30 a.m. to 3 p.m. and 3:30 to 6:30 p.m., and at the same times on Tuesdays through Saturdays after April 16. The restaurant’s box office charges a $3-per-ticket service fee, but all Ticketmaster charges are waived.

Anyone else notice that the price for SD tickets are more than twice as much, in some cases 4x as much as the other concerts?

Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 09:40:23 ET
Posted by: search, k

This shows what aging acts like SD are up against. You may have to access it via a google search to get around the paywall.

Date: Mon, March 27, 2017, 09:15:01 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

All these non-SD posts about the Eagles, Bob Dylan etc., etc are beginning to make the Illuminati and Free Loan posts not look as bad as they once did.

Date: Sun, March 26, 2017, 06:24:42 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I've been as critical of the band as anyone, but at least go by a consistent handle, y'know?

Gullible? It's a choice. Anyone who chooses to go to these shows knows this won't be the year they play "With a Gun." So what? Bemoan the setlist-maker, not the listener. They know what's up.

(Don't be a ...)

Date: Sat, March 25, 2017, 19:58:57 ET
Posted by: Abu, My Old Shocol

Srroy, I did nto crlorcety selpl "sholcl". It shuold hvae been "shocol".

Date: Sat, March 25, 2017, 19:50:48 ET
Posted by: Abu, Teh Splenlg

Hey Dotner, you need to go bcak to yuor sholcl. Jsut so you konw, teh wrod "the" is crlorcety selpled "the", not "teh", arhglit? You can tkae selpilng lssenos on teh Interweb, for fere, I tnihk. Taht is, if yuo wanna.

Date: Sat, March 25, 2017, 18:33:55 ET
Posted by: Gullible Guy, easily fooled and happy about it

This just in - Enjoying one of the best live bands on the planet as they play some of the best, most clever popular music ever written & recorded now makes one "gullible".

Date: Sat, March 25, 2017, 18:26:12 ET
Posted by: Scoop, Lower Manhattan

I haven't seen any official word yet. Don & Walt know they can make easy money by basically playing the same setlist like before. It's almost like a license to steal money from the gullible public. I'm sure they'll add some dates around late July and August. Don & Walt want more money.

Date: Sat, March 25, 2017, 16:40:44 ET
Posted by: Late to, the party

Hey Art! Your idea sucks. I'm sick of SD tribute bands. I don't care who's in the band. Who's going to be the lead singer? Herington? The guys sounds like he's in major pain whenever he tries to sing.

Yep- Just got word that there will be NO SD tour this summer. Just the few they have planed that everybody already knows about. Oh, and I agree with whoever said what's the sense of these guys putting out a new record when it's going to get stolen off the internet. 100% correct on that! It's not worth it. Bands can only make money these days by touring.

Date: Sat, March 25, 2017, 15:28:26 ET
Posted by: Donter, NV

Not gonna be a solo album.
Not gonna be new SD album.

Why? Gonna waste a year on recording something that'll be all over teh interweb in less than a week for free? Nah.

Just gonna tour dem same venues year after year with teh same tunes teh fans wanna hear anyway.

Date: Sat, March 25, 2017, 13:54:30 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

A big shoutout to one of our own. Happy B-day Reidar.Hope to see you this fall!

Date: Fri, March 24, 2017, 19:53:45 ET
Posted by: Kid, CA

What's really causing the holdup for the Steely Dan tour this Summer is the "alleged" Classic West/East rock festivals. The band is awaiting confirmation before they book more gigs. And no, I don't think Donald is in the recording studio finishing up a new solo album.

Date: Fri, March 24, 2017, 19:04:49 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,

I have the same feeling. don has one more in him, and he's written a cohort of songs. We'll see.

Date: Fri, March 24, 2017, 17:12:19 ET
Posted by: dann, n

Maybe they're taking the rest of the summer off to work on a record?

Maybe Donald is finishing the solo album he has been working on?

Date: Fri, March 24, 2017, 18:31:54 ET
Posted by: Art, UCLA

No. Don & Walt are just plain lazy. I think Jon Herington and Jim Beard should organize a Steely Dan spin-off band. Right now they have gigs in June as a duo. They should expand the line-up and get other members of the touring crew like Keith Carlock, Freddie Washington, Carolyn Leonhart, etc. Maybe even Larry Carlton. Without Fagen & Becker in control, the band could produce some new arrangements of Steely Dan songs, play cover versions and possibly new material.

Date: Fri, March 24, 2017, 18:16:28 ET
Posted by: Glenn F., Outtahere

On-sale now and smack in the middle of the 2 "alleged" Classic East & Classic West shows-

Legendary artist DON HENLEY has set a special concert on July 22, 2017 in Dallas, Texas at the American Airlines Center in celebration of his 70th birthday. The once-in-a-lifetime event will feature songs by Henley spanning his entire career from the Eagles and his vast solo catalog. Don will be joined by several very special guests throughout the night.

Date: Fri, March 24, 2017, 17:12:19 ET
Posted by: dann, n

Maybe they're taking the rest of the summer off to work on a record?

Maybe Donald is finishing the solo album he has been working on?

Date: Fri, March 24, 2017, 16:41:32 ET
Posted by: Dwayne, L.A.

Sib's other daughter bangs The Rock.

Date: Fri, March 24, 2017, 12:01:52 ET
Posted by: Mocha, PA

Steve Hackett is in talks with Peter Gabriel to reunite Genesis! Look!

Date: Fri, March 24, 2017, 09:28:45 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

Thanks to Dirk for posting the Larry Carlton with SWR Big Band link. Made my otherwise yuck morning brighter! Fantastic stuff. Larry is my favorite player and he does not disappoint. I also love how they treated to main KC guitar solo in the arrangement.

Date: Fri, March 24, 2017, 09:16:48 ET
Posted by: Cornbred, M

Sib Hashian has a daughter named Aja.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 23:41:03 ET
Posted by: Hobbit, in my bedroom

That long interview with old man Dylan bored me to death. I dozed off while reading it.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 21:03:05 ET
Posted by: Carl, Y

Tom S, you are an imposter. The real Tom S went to MIT, not Harvard.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 20:32:05 ET
Posted by: Nick, Upstate

Dylan croaking old Sinatra tunes make me sick. If Dylan works with Thundercat then I'll give it a listen.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 19:43:10 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

New Bob Dylan interview:

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 18:30:23 ET
Posted by: Tom S., Harvard

Sib Hashian, the original drummer for the rock group Boston, has died. He was 67. R.I.P.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 17:54:24 ET
Posted by: Detriot Dan, MI

That sux. I'm not flying out to Vegas just to see Steely Dan. What's wrong with Don & Walt anyway? Are they too lazy now to do a normal Summer tour like everybody else?

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 17:18:13 ET
Posted by: Late to, the party

Pete- No SD tour this Summer. Beacon in Oct yes, summer tour,no.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 14:03:18 ET
Posted by: Joel, TX

I still remember Friday, Dec. 17, 1982 when me and my buddies tuned in to listen to the radio simulcast of The Who's "final" North American concert from Toronto.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 12:43:49 ET
Posted by: Chubby, MI

People will go as long as Pete Townshend can still do windmills on his guitar.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 12:26:16 ET
Posted by: Pete, Nevada

I saw some complaints on The Who's Facebook page from people on the East Coast who spent a fortune on tickets/traveling to see The Who in Las Vegas. Now they are angry because The Who have announced new shows near where they live. The same thing could happen to Steely Dan fans. Nobody knows if they are going to do a late Summer tour after the Vegas run.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 12:21:33 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

ewwww, I'd rather see the B street band.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 11:19:41 ET
Posted by: Trey, GA

I think The Two is a dig that Roger & Pete still call themselves The Who.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 10:25:48 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Roger Pete, "The Two announced some good ole U.S.A. shows for 2017"

Crazy me, I thought by "The Two" you meant Don and Walt. But I don't see any Steely Dan shows on those dates/venues.

Could it be 2ofUS, that Italian couple who play SD covers in front of an ugly sheet? Very cool. Doubt they'll sell many tickets, though.

Oh wait, further research reveals The Who is playing those dates. Wow, that's some bad autocorrect. I feel your pain.

And yes, Abu (and M/O/D/P), I'd be all over a big-band arranged SD concert. Fact is, I'd love to see Larry with that very SWR Big Band. Hell of a band.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 03:24:55 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Exhausted. No, wait - make that "fucking exhausted".

KD - Sure, all them unreleased outtakes are killer-good, but fer cryin' out loud, would you please stop cracking your knuckles so loudly? Some of us are tryin' to get some sleep.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 02:46:30 ET
Posted by: Dave, L. A.

Pat Benatar and her bossy husband Neil Giraldo will be opening for Toto. So Toto is the headliner. Great news!

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 02:24:22 ET
Posted by: Tim, CA

I checked Jon Herington's website and noticed he added gigs for July 5 in Austria and July 18 in Denmark with Madeleine Peyroux.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 01:44:23 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Kulee Baba sounds like Donald Fagen singing a solo Walter Becker song, which is probably why it's also the best Steely Dan song.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 01:36:31 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I can't tell if Talkin' Bout My Home is an L.A. song disguised as a New York song or just a plain old L.A. song.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 01:23:18 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Dead tired after a long & unpleasant & disrupted flight/Possibly my shortest post ever

QUOTE = "I know for sure, at the very least, two of us here on the Blue would absolutely freak."

Abu - Make that three* of us.

ps- *The third guy would be me.
pps- "Three's a crowd."
ppps - Headline: "Jazz/Rock Band Sells Three Tickets For Upcoming Big Band Arrangement Tour"
pppps - I'm in, even if The Eagles(tm) are the opening act.
ppppps - Because there's always a break between opener and headliner, and because timing is everything.
ppppppps - Not as short as I had originally intended. But still relatively short, all previous long-winded posts considered.

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 00:30:27 ET
Posted by: Roger Pete, Vegas

The Two announced some good ole U.S.A. shows for 2017-

Sun 07/16/17 Canandaigua, NY - Constellation Brands - Marvin SandsPAC Tue 07/18/17 Oxon Hill, MD - Theater At MGM National Harbor
Sat 07/22/17 Atlantic City, NJ - City Boardwalk Hall
Tue 07/25/17 Grand Rapids, MI Van Andel Arena

{Besides Vegas}

Date: Thurs, March 23, 2017, 00:09:18 ET
Posted by: FC, OH

That's Pat Benatar & Neil Giraldo. He not only killed her career by insisting on producing her records, but he also wants star billing.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 23:51:52 ET
Posted by: Abu, LC meets Big Band

Thank you, Dirk from Duesseldorf for the very nicely done arrangement of Kid Charlemagne. I just knew The Dean would like it, as we had traded posts last year before and after the Hollywood Bowl concert last summer. The charts were cleverly written for this cover, as the famous guitar solo is played note for note by the band (with LC also playing), which is a 17-piece Big Band. I'm thinking that the "solo" played in that way was out of respect for Larry's well-known original. The band was clearly featured in this segment, as the cameras never showed Larry during the '17-piece solo'. A very cool slow intro as well. As far as it being "a bit laid-back", I beg to disagree. The horns are blowin' pretty darn good, IMHO. It is definitely a top notch big band arrangement.

Hey, Don and Walt, why can't you guys do this? If you don't plan on recording some new material in the studio, then write some cool sophisticated charts of your stuff for Big Band, and then tour The Southland and everywhere else. I know for sure, at the very least, two of us here on the Blue would absolutely freak.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 23:20:31 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

"Toto & Pat Benatar will share the stage together..."

-nuff said.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 22:55:28 ET
Posted by: Blue Hippo, NY

Toto & Pat Benatar will share the stage together for a co-headliner tour this Summer. They will play at The Beacon Theatre in NY on September 14 with many more dates to be announced soon.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 20:52:07 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Sambo, but Chuck E's in love. What a shame. And just when Rickie brought him back from oblivion.

Great Larry Carlton/SWR concert. Thanks for the link, Dirk.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 19:54:48 ET
Posted by: Sambo, waiting in line

Sure hope it's not Chuck Negron of Three Dog Night. He has a heavy tour schedule this Summer. Might be Chuck E. Cheese.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 18:28:54 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Chuck Norris threw a grenade and killed 50 people. Then the grenade exploded.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 18:00:39 ET
Posted by: Sam, the Steely Dan Bible Man

Listening to Lunch With Gina.

It just hit me that it would make a great song for pairs ice dancing at the next Winter Olympics.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 17:44:00 ET
Posted by: Charles, Up North

So they say dead Chuck's come in 3's. Okay, then who is next?

Chuck Woolery?
Chuck Norris?
Chuck Zito?

My guess is Mangione.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 17:26:17 ET
Posted by: The Dean, From Real Estate

"I loved that last act. Then again, I love vaseline sandwiches on cardboard toast."- Chuck Barris

RIP Chuck

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 16:58:30 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

I'm also a huge Chuck Barris fan. Loved "Treasure Hunt" with bonded security agent Emile O'Tourey and the great host Geoff Edwards.
With Don and Walt's sense of humor, I'm sure they'd like to see a contestant get a Klunk.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 16:41:27 ET
Posted by: Tim, CA

Chuck Barris was also a pop-rock songwriter. He wrote the hit song "Palisades Park" for Freddie "Boom Boom" Cannon.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 14:30:23 ET
Posted by: Tim, CA

Interesting arrangement of Kid Charlemagne. A bit laid-back but still good. What I'd like to see is Larry Carlton hook up with Snarky Puppy. Larry C. and Snarky Puppy would play a mean hot funked up version of Kid Charlemagne.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 13:54:31 ET
Posted by: Dirk, Duesseldorf / Germany

Nice video of Larry Carlton performing with
the SWR radio big band from Germany, performing
Kid Charlemagne amongst others :

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 13:40:39 ET
Posted by: Tim, CA

RIP Chuck Barris. The creator & host of "The Gong Show". Probably the best and funniest game show ever seen on television. Remember Jaye P. Morgan, The Unknown Comic and Gene Gene The Dancing Machine? A true genius.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 13:17:31 ET
Posted by: Earl, watching movies

I think these Classic East & West Music Festivals are a sham. The media went ahead and published the story without getting actual confirmation from Fleetwood Mac or The Eagles.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 12:59:14 ET
Posted by: Rod, working in Chicago

Rickie Lee Jones has changed. Rickie now says she'll gladly play her big hit "Chuck E's in Love" after refusing to perform it for years:

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 09:34:41 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC Jumpin' at the woodside!

r.i.p. C.B.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 08:48:12 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

indeed, they do tend to bend the ear between tunes.

The Dean, D.R.= David Rockefeller

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 01:43:27 ET
Posted by: Archer, Arizona

Fans love touching Stevie Nicks. Whenever I went to a Stevie Nicks concert the crowd would rush toward the front of the stage to shake Stevie Nicks hands.

Date: Wed, March 22, 2017, 00:28:33 ET
Posted by: Tim, CA

The Doobie Brothers will be on tour with Chicago this Summer. How can The Doobie Brothers play at the Classic East/West Music Festivals in July if they already have gigs booked with Chicago on those dates?

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 23:08:16 ET
Posted by: Tim, CA

The only evidence that the Classic East/West Festivals may be cancelled is when you type in "Classic East" or "Classic West" in Pollstar's Find An Event search box, it no longer reveals the artists or dates. Several days ago they were listed. Now it's been removed. Some people noticed this so they posted messages about it on Facebook, Twitter and various forum boards.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 22:24:47 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Thank God, or whoever, Don and Walt don't tell stories before each song. In concert, the musical artist should mostly shut the hell up and perform their art. IMO, of course. Don and Walt do enough jabbering for my taste. In Walt's case, maybe just a bit too much. But I'll continue to cut him some slack, as he usually amuses me.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 22:21:03 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach. Still wondering who D.R. might be.

I think it's a bit humorous Mick Fleetwood thinks the quality of an album has that much to do with "winning awards". And do real artist really think that much about awards, anyway?

For what it's worth, Stevie Nicks doesn't seem to think Fleetwood Mac will record any new material:

“I don't think we'll do another record,” Nicks says. “If the music business were different, I might feel different. I don't think there's any reason to spend a year and an amazing amount of money on a record that, even if it has great things, isn't going to sell.”

And, to be clear, the only reason I knew about this quote is because I saw it while looking for evidence the East/West Classic tour might be cancelled.

IMO, there is a HUGE difference between releasing new material and release great new material. Anyone can pump out crap.

And Nicholas, I had not considered that.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 22:20:49 ET
Posted by: Bob, Quincy MA

But Donald is not that kind of a guy. Donald doesn't tell stories in between songs. He may mention something about the song before he plays it, but that's about it. Donald is not loquacious at the shows. Besides we get enough incessant babbling from Walter's Hey 19 rap so the crowd is more anxious just to hear the music.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 21:07:12 ET
Posted by: Steely Director, NOLA

Saw Stevie Nicks and the Pretenders on their NOLA stop last week. Although there were a few big hits that had to be included, a large part of the setlist was (in Stevie's words) "from my box of lost songs", and "what I WANT to sing, not what I HAVE to sing".

It was also cool hearing the lengthy tales of the past that Stevie told between songs. One can only wonder what songs Don & Walt would play, and what stories they would tell, if they shared that attitude and were that loquacious.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 21:01:46 ET
Posted by: Joel B., NYC

I'm hoping Don Henley will prove to us that he is indeed a REAL MAN and tell Irving Azoff to "shove it" and call off the Eagles reforming/Classic Rock Festivals in July. I speak for the majority of Eagles fans.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 20:40:32 ET
Posted by: Thundershit, eating spaghetti

Mick Fleetwood just said the new Fleetwood Mac spin-off album "Buckingham McVie" is good enough to win awards. All Fleetwood Mac members play on it except Stevie Nicks. Good to see classic rock veterans like Todd Rundgren, Lindsey Buckingham, Christine McVie & Mick Fleetwood are still making new albums. Others just tour and play the same tired hits year after year.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 19:08:09 ET
Posted by: Robot, Lost in Space

Red Alert! Red Alert! Former Steely Dan member/Doobie Bro Michael McDonald Sheds Compact Maui Cottage!

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 18:41:50 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

The Dean - maybe Robyn is the one with the Thunderclit.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 18:40:04 ET
Posted by: Ido Know, Yulesea

Todd Tour
April 29 – St. Louis, Mo., The Venue @ River City Casino
May 2 – Burnsville, Minn., Ames Center
May 3 – Waukegan, Ill., Genesee Theatre
May 6 – Columbus, Ohio, Express Live!
May 8 – Cleveland, Ohio, House Of Blues
May 10 – North Tonawanda, N.Y., Riviera Theatre and Performing Arts Center
May 11 – Tarrytown, N.Y., The Tarrytown Music Hall
May 13 – Kingston, N.Y., Ulster Performing Arts Center
May 14 – East Greenwich, R.I., Greenwich Odeum
May 17 – Salisbury, Mass., Blue Ocean Music Hall
May 18 – Portland, Maine, Aura
May 25 – Fort Myers, Fla., Barbara B. Mann Perf. Arts Hall
May 27 – Saint Petersburg, Fla., The Mahaffey Theater
June 10 – Syracuse, N.Y., Onondaga Community College (Syracuse Jazz Fest)

I'm thinking he's going to let Donny and Wally spill the beans about his guitar residency in the Dan......Ooooopppsssss!!

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 18:32:53 ET
Posted by: Eagle Scout, Seattle WA

Hardcore Fleetwood Mac fans are more excited about the Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie show on July 19 in Woodinville, WA to promote their new duet album. Maybe more tour dates will be added. Fleetwood Mac fans want new fresh material. They don't want to hear the same old hits at a big shitty baseball stadium.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 18:18:45 ET
Posted by: Vic, USA

If you attend a Henley concert and somehow find yourself invited back stage, keep this in mind.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 18:02:19 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour! Another Round.

Robyn is singing the entire song? Really? Robyn?

Who the fuck is Robyn?

I know that question shows my ignorance, but I really have never heard of her. I did listen to that song, though. Nothing of interest there for me. Others might like it a bit more. Most of the "hard core" Dan fans I know will probably hate it, if they ever hear it (which is pretty unlikely).

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 17:45:36 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Here's something posted on Pollstar yesterday.

"We’re still waiting on official word about the Classic East and Classic West festivals, but in the meantime Don Henley has extended his solo tour with a run of June dates..."

I can't find anything that suggest they have been cancelled, but it is interesting you can't simply use the search at Pollstar to find the Classic East listing. Not that I give a damn one way, or the other.

Alkali, D.R.? While trying to decipher the possible identity of D.R, I just found out James Cotton passed away the other day. RIP Mr. Cotton.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 17:19:16 ET
Posted by: Owen, Brooklyn

Donald Fagen's name is starting to appear in the news now. It's because of his collaboration on Todd Rundgren's new White Knight album. One track has been released called "That Could Have Been Me" and Todd doesn't even sing the lead vocal! He lets Robyn sing the whole song. This is really good stuff. It's classic Todd Rundgren pop with heavy synthesizer lines. Steely Dan fans will love it. Read and listen:

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 15:28:35 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

everyone knows that thing was just a mic.

rip D.R.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 14:27:49 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I never really paid attention when the news came out: were these classic rock fests just basically all-night affairs at these baseball stadiums? Why would a bunch of 70-year olds want to sit around a stadium for half a day?

That's not a shot at the classic rock fan base, I'm a few years away from hitting 40 myself, I'm just wondering who designed these things?

If they thought the younger contingent that fills up the Fleetwood Mac, ELO and Steely Dan shows at the Hollywood Bowl would come out, they were badly mistaken.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 14:24:50 ET
Posted by: Irving Azoff, LA

Once Thunderclit pulled out, everybody bailed.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 13:03:41 ET
Posted by: Thunderbird, sick in bed

Fans are reporting the big Classic East & West Music Festivals have now been removed from listings. Some think a cancellation is in sight.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 01:10:38 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Gino: I was expecting Afficiandos of Honey Mustard, but close inspect of the flotsam and jetsam of said musicians may reveal many of those steam powered devices...along with Walter's '54 Strat...

...but then Live from Nowhere BOTH correct answers were satellite relayed in from Kulee-Oh, flashed from his bunker in Rappongi with the aid of the GCHQ operatives.

So you are convinced that the rites of the Academy were not fake news, but a great moment:

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 00:38:26 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Pretty unserious most of the time these days

Oh, I knew that The Dean, and I appreciated the compliment. I was just trying to acknowledge that I'm really only here for the laughs, any way they come. The only time I get serious is when the conversation turns to Springsteen or Bon Jovi, or when I'm answering quizzes.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 00:32:13 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Gino, I assure you, I was laughing with you, not at you.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 00:24:37 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Backing away from that list of quiz answers, just a bit

The Dean, I just re-read my list of answers to the quiz, and I now realize that some of them might be a bit far-fetched or even possibly downright incorrect. I guess I was so excited about participating that I just wrote impulsively. I don't mind if people here laugh at my posts, though. For whatever reasons they may have. As long as I can put a smile on someone's face, I feel I've done my civic duty here.

Date: Tues, March 21, 2017, 00:01:00 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

While catching up on the day's breaking Dandom Bluebook news, I was thinking of a comment I wanted to make. Don't worry. Since reading Gino's last post, I've been laughing too hard to remember what it is I wanted to say. I'm sure we are all better off for it.

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 23:13:32 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Bang-on or at least pretty damn close, I think

A soldering iron?

A 3x5 framed photograph of a plum tomato?

A nice lean inside round roast, uncooked (but on the small side)?

A meticulously hand-carved letter "T"?

A brick from the Berlin Wall, with certificate of authenticity?

One of those "handgun" cigarette lighters?

A goldfish?

A rare promo CD single of The GoGo's [sic] performing their big hit "Walk Like An Egyptian"?

OK - One of those answers has to be correct. When do I get my prize?

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 22:46:29 ET
Posted by: Eugene, Phoenix

Is it a keytar?

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 22:26:08 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba, Or...

It could be a Grammy award.

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 22:17:27 ET
Posted by: kuleebaab, same as ever

A microphone!

That was easy.

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 19:34:26 ET
Posted by: Eugene, Phoenix

Could it be a dildo? Perhaps a melodica?

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 19:15:26 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Chained Lightning

Pop Quiz:

What specific hand held item do Donald Fagen, Walter Becker, Michael McDonald, Boz Scaggs, Elvis Costello, Stevie Winwood, and Thundercat all have in common?

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 18:31:45 ET
Posted by: Top Cat, reading

Why did this man name himself after The Thundercats cartoon series? Is he a fan of the show?

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 17:35:58 ET
Posted by: Cathunder, Here

Thundercat has a particular sense of a SD way?

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 14:51:19 ET
Posted by: Exlax, on lunch break

Rickie Lee Jones just posted the official music video for "Flying Cowboys" on her Facebook page. She also posted a link to a review of a recent show at the Fox Tucson Theatre in Arizona with close-up photos. Rickie is now wearing purple hair extensions.

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 12:46:23 ET
Posted by: Tony, Long Beach CA

The man who first brought up Thundercat on the BlueBook was DeaconBlues16 on March 10. He thought Thundercat would be a good opener for Steely Dan.

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 11:49:50 ET
Posted by: Aja1, Newton

I was so happy to read about the Thundercat references! There is so many newer artists and music that would (IMO) appeal to us SD fans. However, when I brought up Badbadnotgood, I was flamed for talking about an artist that doesn't relate.

Robert Glasper
Roy Hargrove
Jose James
and others on the new NYC Jazz scene are so good and are playing to the principals and standards that Don and Walt brought to their music.

Bravo to whomever referenced him first.

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 10:57:04 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Chad - some of us just use this site to crack our knuckles with. This is a band that hasn't released an album in 14 years, they're completely and totally in line with a 60s pop touring act in terms of cultural significance, so you have to work out some stuff on here before heading to work, there, Sparky.

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 10:47:00 ET
Posted by: Cory, N

Steely Dan doesn't want an opening act that will steal their thunder. Pun absolutely intended.

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 10:33:02 ET
Posted by: Just, Sayin

Moon- Michael McDoobie is touring with Boz Scaggs this summer. Maybe you should check out his tour schedule before making any predictions.

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 09:07:50 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

The concert will be high in the Thunderdome, of course. Special guests will be Mel Gibson and Tina Turner singing Gaucho.

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 01:32:20 ET
Posted by: Moon, California

I've got a hunch Michael McDonald might attempt to get himself in as a "special guest" at the upcoming Classic East/West Festivals in July. Michael could join The Doobie Brothers for the hits he made famous with them and then come back onstage again to sing some songs with Steely Dan. Maybe Jeff Skunk Baxter is thinking the same thing.

Date: Mon, March 20, 2017, 01:03:06 ET
Posted by: Thundercat fan, in bed

Since Thundercat is playing at Coachella on April 15 & 27, Steely Dan might try and snag him as the opening act for one or two of their concerts in April.

Date: Sun, March 19, 2017, 18:53:06 ET
Posted by: Dagwood, Evanston IL

I really like this new Thundercat song with Michael McDonald & Kenny Loggins. I'm amazed by how much time Michael McDonald spends out on the road. He seems to have gigs every month of the year.

Date: Sun, March 19, 2017, 18:31:27 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Enjoying the Thundercatstorm

When I first mentioned Thundercat, I had no idea that it would elicit such a great bunch of enthusiastic responses! He's such a powerful figure in contemporary music, so it's really heartwarming to see him finally get his due here on The Blue. Obviously Thundercat was wrongfully neglected around these parts for far too long, but thankfully that appalling situation has been at least partially rectified.

Although I still maintain that we do not talk enough about other Dangential acts like Bon Jovi, Springsteen, or Queen Featuring The Guy From Either American Idol or Dancing With The Stars.

Date: Sun, March 19, 2017, 17:16:12 ET
Posted by: twalter, w

"we fart. Now i can't remember why"

Date: Sun, March 19, 2017, 15:52:32 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Nicholas, sounds like it's the rainy season on Phraxos. I hope you get through it with minimal damage.

Date: Sun, March 19, 2017, 15:24:18 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Security, Department of National Parks

Nicholas Urfe, I'm sorry to report that Thunder Island has recently instituted a strict "no motorized vehicles" policy due to the large number of noisy, rambunctious Thundercat fans who have been disrespectfully tearing up the natural beauty of the atoll's fragile ecosystem with their vintage Thunderbirds every Friday & Saturday night.

Perhaps your scenario would work better if those disrespectful, out-of-control young folks took their unbridled Thundercattery to Thunder ROAD.

Hours & hours of annoying noise, you say? I'll bet neither The Boss nor his legions of fans would mind a bit.

Date: Sun, March 19, 2017, 14:22:35 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Yes, yes, I'm sure we're all thunderstruck by the thunderclaps of the thunderrific Thundercat, a thunderstorm of thunderbolts of thunderous thundery best listened to in a Thunderbird on Thunder Island.

Date: Sun, March 19, 2017, 13:28:41 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Only about 25% of Steely Dan concert attendees go for the music. About 75% go to relive or reminisce on the 70s with their lava lamps, moon rocks, and worn out Steely Dan t-shirts.

Maybe they would dig the mellow sounds of Thundercats, maybe not. The sound system and organization these days >>> 70s, regardless. Generating album sales is no longer the point of a tour today...the best you can hope for is that iTunes and youtube stimulate ticket sales on a tour. Thundercats could bring in a few handfuls in urban areas. Headliners would do more at the box office, and that's generally why. Elvis Costello, for example, has a loyal fanbase and is a good draw.

Ergo, Azoff is a Tour Pimp instead of an album sales pimp these days.

Date: Sun, March 19, 2017, 11:20:59 ET
Posted by: Chet, B

These "<insert name of far-fetched possible SD opener> is not opening for SD because..." essays crack me up.

Date: Sun, March 19, 2017, 10:49:12 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Fagen's solo tour was fantastic. The only drawback was that cold that he had during the (too-short, not just as fans but as someone looking at the compressed schedule) run. It still forced him to take on different chances with his vocal approach, which I dug.

Thundercat is not opening for Steely Dan for a number of reasons, and most of them boil down to the fact that Thundercat really can't be helped by wasting a summer on a (nonexistent) Steely Dan tour. The take, even for a small band, isn't enough. Even though Steely Dan fans are just about the only ones that buy CDs these days (I just got that Creation boxed set), any tour with Steely Dan is not going to result in more units moved.

Even if the crowd is rapturously taken by Thundercat, which these drunks aren't even doing for Steely Dan 80 percent of the time.

There's no money to be made during a summer or year that could be the peak of Thundercat's career, there is no exposure to be had working somewhere in the midwest in the middle of July when you could be back on Kimmel back home, and there is no point for the act to be tossed out at 8:30 at night, with the sun still up and the crowd mostly not caring.

I didn't see earlier posts questioning his value as an artist, and am glad I didn't see those. He's great, and he is "big" -- music-only features chatter and music-only Rolling Stone features are hard to come by in 2017.

Why would he join a Steely Dan tour, even if one exists? Not to compare him to the band itself, but would Fagen and Becker have been happy spending a summer opening for Bob Dylan -- shitty travel, shitty sound check, shitty venues, shitty sound, shitty set list time, no real value outside of the tenuous connection with Bob -- in 1973?

That would have gotten old, real quick. Every closer turns into Sha Na-Na when you're the opener.

Date: Sun, March 19, 2017, 10:06:26 ET
Posted by: Betti, C5fMGWpAW6

Toucndowh! That's a really cool way of putting it!

Date: Sun, March 19, 2017, 00:08:36 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

DB16, I can't speak for the intent of that post---but: I really doubt the artist's name plays into any praise/criticisms/evaluations/observations of any of us. At least I'd hope most of us are musically sophisticated enough to see past crap like that. I actually thought that was a playful shot.

I'm guessing the artist would like that little shot, if only because it initiated discussion, and ended up giving him some positive exposure.

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 23:09:44 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

Although I've avoided this discussion so far, I feel compelled to comment since I originally posted the Thundercat-as-opener suggestion. While no one EXPLICITLY stated Thundercat has "no value," I would argue that one could infer that there was some IMPLICIT claim of "no value" by some posters.

I would say it came across that way because the poster seemed to go out of his way to find an article that would discredit Thundercat in the eyes of some on this board instead of making a critical comment on the videos that were posted.

And as far as the criticism of his name, let's not forget that we're the most hardcore fans of a band named after a fictional dildo...

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 22:03:43 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Oh, and RIP Chuck Berry.

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 22:03:12 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

CJB, a little reading comprehension lesson might be in order here.

You said, "Interesting that MMcD sees value in Thundercat's work, speaking well of him as a bass player and musician, whereas some grumpy old anonymous men on an internet forum claim to see no value in Thundercat at all."

Maybe I missed it, but I couldn't find anyone saying Thundercat has"no value", on this forum. Similarly I can't find anyone dismissing his talent as a bassist. What I see are questions about his suitability as an opening act for a SD tour, shots at his preposterous "getups" (as us old timers sometimes say) and questioning his status as one of the biggest names in music. Those are a far cry from saying he has "no value at all"

LOVED Journey's first two albums, with Gregg Rolie on vocals. Pretty much hated anything they did (that I've heard) since then.

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 18:43:54 ET
Posted by: Viva Chuck,

Fagen paying tribute to Chuck Berry on his 2006 solo tour:

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 18:31:28 ET
Posted by: Aaarrgghh, Heaven

Rock 'n' roll legend Chuck Berry dead at the age of 90, R.I.P.

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 17:24:47 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Gumshoe: The height of Western music as we know it. The intro and guitar solo are indeed masterful. Love the four-peat of the chorus line and the way the horns swirl around the vocal and guitar lines...there's a lot of great nuggets (ex. organ gives it almost an Allman Bros feel) stuffed into the epic performance...

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 16:58:53 ET
Posted by: Farley, Midwest

Some people say when they hear Steely Dan's "Haitian Divorce" or "East St. Louis Toodle-Oo" it reminds them of Peter Frampton and his guitar talk box.

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 16:07:14 ET
Posted by: BillfromPgh,

Frampton is no joke, despite some of the slick pop stuff he did. Here's a tune from the Monk tribute album "That's The Way I Feel Now": DF was on this album, too, with Steve Khan:

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 14:58:09 ET
Posted by: Gumshoe, Portland OR

Donald's 7-minute fast tempo version of "Western World" is a masterpiece. It has a really funky upbeat groove to it. Dig Jon Herington's tasty guitar solo in the middle.

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 14:27:35 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

BadSneakers: Fagen's 2006 Tour is up there with 1993, 2000. I actually dig the revved up Western World...

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 14:24:49 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, yes

Donald Fagen 2006 @ The Beacon Theater, NYC
Lotsa unusual stuff ...

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 12:57:11 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

CJB: Yeah, I hear some 70s R&B, some EWB, a little Stevie. Always good to hear the Rhodes over some pulsing bass.

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 12:51:26 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,

Name: I'd also pick the song Michael McDonald chose as most Dan-influenced

Great that he talked about Ferguson. Nothing's changed since he wrote Talking it to the Streets about the disparity there from the non-white POV.

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 12:37:50 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

Just read that Michael McDonald interview. Interesting that MMcD sees value in Thundercat's work, speaking well of him as a bass player and musician, whereas some grumpy old anonymous men on an internet forum claim to see no value in Thundercat at all. Going with Mike on this one!

That Stan Deely Youtube channel has some pretty amazing stuff up right now, including, most recently, the Tracks of Whack demos. Thanks to whomever put it up, & I hope to listen them all before the inevitable pulldown.

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 12:33:11 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Frog: Journey began as a red hot fusion band formed from Santana. I actually like some of the "fusion" of Rolle and Steve Perry. A bit more icky once Jonathan Cain from the Babys took Greg's place. Rolle of course sang lead on Black Magic Woman. Schon was the other guitarist with Santana when he was about 16.

Schon and Rolle under the tent on Caravansarai

Dean: Yeah, Luke is on tour with Toto in Europe this summer. Scheiner evidently is remastering all of their albums. XIV might sound decent if it can be de-brickwalled.

I noticed on Lukather's last album some Gaucho-like chords at 0:13 on Rest of the World... similar to the transition from the Jarrett part to the D&W song itself.


Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 12:18:24 ET
Posted by: Gumshoe, sipping morning coffee

Just read it. Michael McDonald mainly talks about his stint with The Doobie Brothers. Michael credits Jeff Skunk Baxter for changing the direction of that band.

Date: Sat, March 18, 2017, 08:32:09 ET
Posted by: name, handle, on location

Newsweek interview with Mike McDonald. He discusses how his time with SD influenced his later work.

Date: Fri, March 17, 2017, 22:27:41 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Just kidding

QUOTE: "What makes you think that the "70's super star" guitarist is somebody that's never played with SD before? Like Frampton or Beck? That doesn't make much sense to me."

Anon, there's really no need to be confused here. Lutz's suggestion of Jeff Beck was a really interesting one, to be sure. "Endlessly gifted" is the best description of JB that I've heard in a long time. But it was only a suggestion, a fascinating possibility - not a confirmation of fact - in the context of a conversation about possibilities. On the other hand, The Dean's "Frampton" comment was a throwaway, an obvious joke. He was kidding - pulling our collective legs, as it were. Just like KD's announcement that he is "going to spend heaps of cash to see" the band Queen, and his prediction that it will be a "killer show".

We joke around a lot amongst ourselves here on The Bluebook.

Date: Fri, March 17, 2017, 22:08:41 ET
Posted by: Turn up the Eagles, 0


Another tour of the same old shit. A boring-ass Vegas residency and two sell-out gigs for Irving.

Just stop already. For the love of god, just fucking stop already.

Date: Fri, March 17, 2017, 19:05:28 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

The Dean, I mean either one. I dont care to see SD do the same old shit in concert vini vidi vinci,I've seen that if'n ya know what i'm sayin'
jeff beck is probly the best rock guitarist to come out of the UK and Beck Beck is a great songstrist, no doubt.
give me something worth my while.

Date: Fri, March 17, 2017, 07:06:10 ET
Posted by: Jared, NY

Here's why Don Henley is a Youtube Nazi.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 23:46:59 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Perry, thanks for that link. Mostly because it led me to this one:


Apologies if it had already been posted.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 22:03:51 ET
Posted by: Perry, Austin TX

Greetings. Are you wondering what Rickie Lee Jones sounds like on her current tour with Madeleine Peyroux? Here's Rickie performing "Weasel and the White Boys Cool" at Town Hall NYC on March 4, 2017:

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 20:46:02 ET
Posted by: Toejam, Boston

Joe Walsh was recently interviewed on The Craig Ferguson Show on Sirius/XM and said The Eagles will bill themselves as "The Eagles Family & Friends" at the Classic East/West Festivals. Obviously this means people like Jackson Browne, Bob Seger and others will show up.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 19:29:52 ET
Posted by: Hoagie, Coney Island

Don Henley LOVES Tears For Fears. His cover version of "Everybody Wants to Rule The World" has become a stable at his solo concerts. But Don Henley is a genuine jackass. He removed almost all of his solo music videos from YouTube. When fans uploaded clips from his solo concerts on YouTube, Henley would immediately yank them off. Screw you, Don Henley.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 18:41:59 ET
Posted by: Klub, etc.

Jimmy Page rates Elliot Randall > Jimmy Page.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 17:31:55 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour! March Madness, Baby.

Alkali, I assume you mean the previously discussed Jeff Beck, and not the mononymous Napoleon Dynamite impersonator. I dig JB, but don't really see him as a match for Steely Dan. Still, I would love to hear it. It probably wouldn't be enough to get me to go to one of those bloated festivals, though.

Many of the hot-shot guitarists mentioned (most of them for shits and giggles, I think) could probably find a way to blend for a set. Walt can chop some wood, while they take their solos. Hopefully, for the chance to play with SD, they'd put their egos aside and take their turn laying down their rhythm section grooves. But it remains far-fetched, as far as I'm concerned.

Until someone supplies some evidence of a conflict for Jon H, I see no reason to believe the rumor, at the moment.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 17:30:17 ET
Posted by: Gerry, CT

I'm always amazed because Jeff Beck never seems to age. Still skinny, same messy Rod Stewart type haircut, no grey hair or bald spots and very little wrinkles on his face. Heck, this guy was in The Yardbirds way back in 1965!

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 15:57:08 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

someone mentioned Beck, now that would make me pay money to see them again.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 15:07:52 ET
Posted by: Alex T. , JP

The correct answer is Esteban. His schedule is open enough to fit the SD gigs in.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 14:40:26 ET
Posted by: Frog, Santa Barbara CA

Even if Carlos Santana was the 70's superstar guest guitarist, wouldn't he sit in with Journey? Last year Santana & Journey did a tour together and Carlos played with Journey onstage on some tracks. I really can't stand Journey but when Carlos sits in them Journey becomes a scorching jazz-rock fusion band. There's lots of clips on YouTube of Carlos & Journey playing together. This is one of the best:

Carlos Santana would easily steal the spotlight away from Steely Dan so Donald & Walt would never allow that to happen.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 13:31:03 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Agree with you, Dean. Santana would be the biggest surprise.
He may not be versatile enough outside of his own sound and music to even pull it off. It would sound too much like his stuff.
Can't see Don and Walt pulling out the grape egg shakers either...
Watched Carlos' show with Dennis on drums in LV and it was a real treat.
Also watched him sit in with Robben Ford at the Fillmore in SF and it was odd, not a fit at all. He sounded like a foreign object within that context and didn't adapt at all.
Not to mention that Robben's technical superiority was painfully obvious.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 13:27:43 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Queen's on tour this summer, so no Brian May. I'm going to spend heaps of cash to see them, I can't name a single Adam Lambert song, and I don't care. Deep setlist tracks, new setlist most nights save for the last few songs, expecting another killer show.

May stunk it up when he played with Don and Walt in 2001. So weird, too, because he's not your typical blues-based, pentatonic, guy. No Rick Derringer trips, here, and yet May (a genius who plays over crazy piano chords all the time) got lost in a pretty simple song.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 12:47:30 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Santana is a legit Superstar 70's guitarist. Hell, he's a legit superstar in every decade since. But has he ever played with SD, live or in the studio? Don't see that as likely, at all. But wow, that would be a big surprise.

Anon, you have to know there is no chance most of the guitarists being bandied about are actually going to play with SD for those shows. Framptop (again) was suggested as a joke! But remember, we've been told the rumor is the replacement guitarist is a superstar guitarist from the 70's who has previously worked with Steely Dan. There aren't many guitarists who meet both criteria. Winwood plays guitar---but I wouldn't categorize him as a superstar guitarist.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 12:44:53 ET
Posted by: Fess, getting ready for work

Where is that scoundrel Neal who started all these bullshit rumors? As far as I know, only one "superstar" surprise guest artist appeared with Steely Dan onstage. That was Bonnie Raitt who sang Dirty Work in 2006 at Shoreline Amphiteatre in Mountain View, CA. Michael McDonald, Steve Winwood and Rickie Lee Jones sat in with Steely Dan too but these artists were the openers.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 12:41:57 ET
Posted by: Jeff, US

Carlos is playing for the Cleveland Indians these days. He's way too busy this summer.

Seriously, he sounds much more feasible than Eddie Van Halen. Also have to think of Brian May, who jammed with them at the HOF gig.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 12:28:49 ET
Posted by: Lefty, Manhattan

Hey, guys! I think the 70's superstar guitarist will be Carlos Santana. I checked his tour schedule and he has no gigs on those dates.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 11:52:25 ET
Posted by: Anon,

What makes you think that the "70's super star" guitarist is somebody that's never played with SD before? Like Frampton or Beck? That doesn't make much sense to me.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 11:48:06 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

All this discussion of rumors Jon may not play the two Classic abominations, got me thinking (well, something has to). One may get the impression some of us are anti-change, for any of the current band members. I will admit, this is one very solid band, and Don and Walt have consistently stated it is the best they've ever had.

This band has has the same players for quite some time. There has been relatively little turnover since 2000, actually. At some point in time, it's likely changes will be made. After all, Don and Walt haven't held a band together this long since---well, ever, I think.

I'm sure most of us will miss Jon, or Carlock, or Freddie, the Leonharts, etc. if they leave. But some changeover might be for the good, in the long run. Don't get me wrong, I'm not clamoring for change. But the longer they go without a major shakeup, the more likely some move is going to be made, IMO. It will be interesting to see when, and how, it's done. With that said, using some "superstar" guitarist from the 70s, for a couple shows, isn't the kind of long-term move I'm thinking about.

BFF, what dates in May/June?

KD, that's pretty funny. Is that your imagined interview, or is that really from something published?

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 11:08:28 ET
Posted by: BFF, -

Are those dates for late May/early June for real?

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 10:48:13 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Q: "Why didn't you choose to do any future dates, or even recordings, with Jeff?"

Becker: "We respect his playing, we have for decades even though we hadn't worked together, and we had a hell of a good time on the dates. Even if it he was a little more active than we're used to."

Fagen: "Jeffrey has this thing with ... is it talcum?"

Becker: "Yeah. The LeBron thing."

Fagen: "He blew talcum powder everywhere right as we were coming on stage. We do a little jazz intro, an Oliver Nelson tune ..."

Becker: "We liked his playing and his approach, it was just ... he didn't ..."

Fagen: "He didn't use guitar picks."

Becker: "Sort of non-negotiable for us at this point."

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 10:10:29 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

The guy that has the chops would be the endlessly gifted Jeff Beck.
70's star, yes - still a star today.
Didn't he tour with ZZ Top before? Not sure if they actually played any songs together.
I still don't believe Jon is out though, he carries too much weight with the whole franchise.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 09:23:28 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

It's Steve Lukather. Goddammit.

Fucking Fagen finally came around on him.

Date: Thurs, March 16, 2017, 01:07:06 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

If the rumor is a fact on the ground, it's gotta be Derringer.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 23:50:22 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba, same as usual

Dean, I'm not ashamed to say I like Rumours and Lindsay (Go Insane) Buckingham.
It would have been nice if it hadn't beat out Aja in 1977, though.
As for Billy Joel... (the other one to beat out Aja), now that's a different story.

Chuck -- you're probably referring to Joe Jackson, as per The Dean. But as a fellow Hoosier I'll say Kurt Vonnegut: we know Becker and Fagen are fans (

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 23:28:47 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

You can always count on that rat-bastard M/O/D/P and our man, Abu, to "squeeze off" some quality/funny posts. Good job, gents.

I'm a bit embarrassed to admit it, but I actually kind of liked Fleetwood Mac before Stevie Nicks and Lindsey (Holiday Road) Buckingham joined the group. Mystery to Me is a terrific album, IMO.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 22:58:38 ET
Posted by: Mick, West

Stevie sounds like Janis here-

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 22:12:03 ET
Posted by: Abu, Fact Checker

Rumours is by Fleetwood Mac. That is a fact. Possibly this 70s superstar guitarist could just be an alternative fact, or an alternative rumor.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 21:47:57 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Serious, but just for a second

There are some people out here in Internet Land who don't/can't do "facebook". Some of us are strictly forbidden from maintaining a real name/actual life presence on these so-called "social media" sites as a condition of employment. For anyone unaware of this fact, it is in fact a "fact".

Pete Fogel certainly needs no direction from the likes of me, but if he did (and he doesn't), I would suggest that The Bluebook is a better (or at the very least, a more focused) place than "facebook" to dispense/discuss cool new information about Steely Dan. Or it's at least a welcoming place where a credible person with interesting information could share it those of our kind who can't/don't do "facebook".

Pete, you yourself said fairly recently that you felt this current crop of Bluebook contributors was an especially good one - or words to that effect. I for one would like to see you posting here more than once every three years, even if only occasionally, or whenever the hell you feel like it. You're one of us, whether you like it or not.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 21:24:40 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Shocked & Apallled, again...oh, and "heartbroken" as well

QUOTE = "Forget about Frampton. He has gigs with The Steve Miller Band on those dates".

Well, "Mud", thanks a whole helluva lot for that wet blanket.

I must admit I'm more than a little disappointed in The Dean for his rather serious apparent error in prediction. The Dean, you ought to have known that Mr. Frampton was unavailable due to prior commitments before you posted your explosive, exciting inside information here. How difficult would it have been to research your prediction prior to posting it? Teasing us like that is just plain mean. I mean, when I read that Peter Frampton would be touring with Steely Dan - as lead guitarist, no less - I was so excited. Imagine Steely Dan working with a Legendary '70s Guitar Superstar?

Now that poster "Mud" has revealed the sheer impossibility of that possibility, my personal dream of not attending either of the 2017 Eagles concerts where Steely Dan (with lead guitarist Peter Frampton!) will be part of the opening acts is now nothing more than a dream. Not that I'll be going now, and not that I would have been going then, mind you. It was just a dream. A shining, golden, Impossible Dream.

So, The Dean, I hope you've learned something here. Rumors are the Devil's armpit. And words can hurt.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 21:18:56 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Thanks, DeaconBlues16. Pete is the best. So I assume he is saying what he can. Anything being interpreted from his posts is suspect, IMO.

If nobody can come with any stronger info, I think it's safe to say all talk of Jon being replaced by 'a superstar from the 70's who has previously worked with Steely Dan' is a rumor. That doesn't mean it won't end up being true. But I'd be careful to not jump on something like that and call it "fact" at the moment.

And Pete, if you're reading this, shoot me an email. Had a great time with you in October. Email address is in the email field.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 20:26:21 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

That's the FB link. I think you might have to be a member of the group on Facebook to have access to the posts. A lot of these rumors are originating from a post by Pete Fogel, which I previously mentioned.

Exact quote from Pete Fogel: "Got some exciting news about this summer! I'm sure you will all find out about it soon enough"

In the comments to the post, people were speculating about tour dates, and Pete replied: "They tour every year. Why would that be exciting?"

I posted that here, assuming the entire news was not related to touring. But I guess he meant his news wasn't related to tour dates/locations, as opposed to not being related to a tour altogether.

Later he said: "There will be a substitute player for a couple of shows. These shows are big and haven't been announced yet. I can't say anything because I'm not sure if the player being substituted for, even knows about it yet. I surely wouldn't want him or her to get that news from me."

Based on some further comments in the thread, the inference was that the player to be replaced would be Jon Herington.

That was before the news about the Classic East/Classic West (or whatever they're called) shows was officially reported by Billboard.

I did not see anything reported about SD neglecting a summer tour and only performing the Vegas dates, Greenwich, the classic shows, and Beacon run in October.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 19:27:45 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour! Another Round.

Mud, I trust you realize my preposterous suggestion of Frampton was made with tongue firmly in cheek. I think you can add Van Halen to the "just kidding" suggestions. (I sure hope so.)

And where exactly is this "Dandom Facebook page"? I wonder why Hoops doesn't have a link to it anywhere on the main page.

Maybe someone can supply a direct link to it. Then maybe they can start supplying some backup for their "rumor facts". Froomers? Racks? Oh, I kinda like that one.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 19:22:01 ET
Posted by: Mud, Philly

Forget about Frampton. He has gigs with The Steve Miller Band on those dates. This superstar guitarist sitting in with SD talk is really getting silly. It's not going to happen.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 18:29:10 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Rumor Mill, can you at least share what Jon is doing during these mystery gigs? According to Peyroux's site her tour is all but over on June 3rd, with a standalone gig on July 18th, in Denmark. I'm guessing she will have a different guitarist for that Denmark gig. But maybe her website is out-of-date, too. And Jon's site looks to have been updated relatively recently. He has his June dates with Beard there. Hey, maybe all the websites for everyone is out of date, and only a select few know "the truth".

Neal said it was FACT (not a rumor) that Jon would not be available for the Classic shows. He claimed there was a rumor it would be a famous 70's guitarist for those dates. Well, he actually said both yesterday: "Jon Herington is out with Madeleine Peyroux and mill miss both shows in LA and NY with the Eagles. Rumor is that a major player that SD used in the 70's will be taking his place for these two shows. Fact." Using both "rumor" and "fact" in the same sentence is downright Trumpian. At first I thought he was saying it was a fact that there was a rumor.

But today he doubled-down, and claims to know the truth. "Hey guys- This is no rumor....Herington is out, a 70's superstar is in!" Well,, who the fuck is it? Why make this so suspenseful. I guess some people just love getting the attention.

Again, I'm not saying this stuff can't be true. But those pushing it have brought no evidence to the table.

I'm trying to think of someone who "is that a major player that SD used in the 70's" who would also be categorized as "a 70's superstar". Unless your definition of "superstar" is a bit fuzzy, I'm drawing blanks here. If you limit the use of "superstar" to someone who sold shitloads of albums, and sold out large live shows, based on his/her name alone, I think the only one who MIGHT qualify is Rick Derringer and, perhaps Knopfler---but that was more band than individual fame. Skunk was never a superstar. Neither was Carlton, Elliott Randall or just about anyone else. Maybe it's Peter Frampton.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 16:31:30 ET
Posted by: Tonto, Chicago

70's superstar guitarist must be Eddie Van Halen. Irving Azoff manages him.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 15:03:42 ET
Posted by: Rumor, Mill

The info regarding JH not playing those stadium gigs has been talked about on the Dandom Facebook page. There are gigs not yet listed on his website that conflict.

His replacement is said to be a big name.

Had not heard there would be no summer tour, but I hadn't heard there would be one, either, so who knows. Maybe Azoff got them a big enough chunk of change for those stadium gigs that they can take most of the summer off.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 12:27:05 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Neal, questioning what you think you know, and saying you are "full of shit" are two entirely different things. I don't see anyone claiming you are definately wrong.

But given the nature of this board, you have to understand some skepticism on our part. There are reasons for that skepticism.

I don't recall you having any inside information for us in the past. If you did, and I missed it, please let us know what you've shared before it became common knowledge? It's certainly possible you know something, but lots of folks (mostly unknown to us) come here claiming to know things. Most of the time their info is bogus. Also, it's become an annoying trend for people to post opinions, and guesses, as actual fact.

It seems clear (at the moment) Jon is available for those shows. His time with Peyroux ends 6/3, and he's scheduled some shows with Jim Beard in June. None look to conflict with any SD show (other than Greenwich). So, what's the reason for his exclusion from the East/West gigs? Is this the end of Jon's run with the boys? Please share, if you are the guy "in the know".

You offer no real information. If you indeed know what's going on, why not just name the name? Why the tease? Do you work for some marketing department? Are you here to start stirring up interest for the Classic shows? Is so, that's probably reason enough to consider your information suspect---even if it turns out to be true.

So, again: Nobody so far is saying you are full of shit. But I'm saying the way you are going about sharing the info is pretty shitty. And you may, or may not, be full of shit.

Chuck, I think the name you are looking for is Joe Jackson.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 10:52:05 ET
Posted by: ?, ?

She has a show on July 18 in Denmark. That's 3 days after the July 15 show at Dodger Stadium.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 10:51:15 ET
Posted by: I'm in, why not

Hey Neal,

Drop the name of the 70s superstar guitarist just to be sure.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 10:42:48 ET
Posted by: Neal, In the know

Hey guys- This is no rumor....Herington is out, a 70's superstar is in!

Dean....The same guitarist for the show in LA and NY, will not be doing the Connecticut show. Herington's website is just simply not updated.

SD will not be touring this summer. They'll only be doing Vegas, the other few shows in Cali in April, and the 2 with the Eagles. That's it for the summer. However the Beacon in Oct will continue.

You guys can all tell how full of shit I am. When the above comes to fruition, I'll be back to rub it in all of your faces!


Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 09:47:41 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

If there is really a rumor, I'm guessing it concerns who will take Jon's place for the the Greenwich gig.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 09:46:05 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Neal, according to this, Jon's time with Madeleine ends on Jun 3rd.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 09:13:31 ET
Posted by: Chuck, Full of Nuts

This 1983 commercial features the group Heart. But if you watch closely there's a brief appearance by a fellow who has gotten a lot of ink on this board over the years. Free cup to the first person to identify him.

Date: Wed, March 15, 2017, 07:03:46 ET
Posted by: Kenny, NY

The rumor is a fact?

Date: Tues, March 14, 2017, 23:36:23 ET
Posted by: Neal, don't dout

Jon Herington is out with Madeleine Peyroux and mill miss both shows in LA and NY with the Eagles. Rumor is that a major player that SD used in the 70's will be taking his place for these two shows. Fact.

Date: Tues, March 14, 2017, 22:24:45 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Can't figure out why Neal thought Jon H wouldn't be with SD for the Classic gigs. Am I missing something here? I understand the conflict with the Greenwich gig. Once again, am I missing something?

Gino, I should be embarrassed for how hard I laughed.

Date: Tues, March 14, 2017, 21:56:26 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Flat & boated

"He looks fat and bloated now."

He was always fat & bloated, inside. He's just grown into his looks later in life.

Date: Tues, March 14, 2017, 21:54:12 ET

Any Foxy Ladies at the mall Jimi?

Date: Tues, March 14, 2017, 21:43:05 ET
Posted by: Hendrix, At a shopping mall

I just saw a recent photo of Don Henley on He looks fat and bloated now.

Date: Tues, March 14, 2017, 21:12:39 ET
Posted by: I, Know

Jon Herington will be performing with Steely Dan every show.
One just needs to look at his website.

Date: Tues, March 14, 2017, 17:22:40 ET
Posted by: Neal, ?

Who's filling in for Jon Herington? He won't be able to do LA or NY!

Date: Tues, March 14, 2017, 14:18:06 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Tony LiPuma is a huge loss: Jazz Crusaders, George Benson, Al Jarreau, Michael Franks, Jobim, Randy Newman, Everybody but the Girl, Patti Austin, Yellowjackets, Diana Krall etc. as producer. Funked up Blue Note sound.

The tracks LiPuma produced on Blue Pacific sound even more like Steely Dan than the tracks Walter produced! Long Slow Distance Chez Nous - Carlton, Joe Sample, Freddie Washington, John Guerin

Kind Spirit - no clue. Fantastic demo though with Gadd, Rainey, Mounsey and/or Grolnick. Could be just dummy lyrics as they were working it out...

Date: Tues, March 14, 2017, 02:26:05 ET
Posted by: Toejam, Boston

RIP record producer Tommy Lipuma

Date: Tues, March 14, 2017, 01:27:05 ET
Posted by: Pops, San Francisco

I predict The Eagles, Steely Dan & The Doobie Brothers lineup will outsell the Fleetwood Mac, Journey & Earth, Wind + Fire shows.

Date: Tues, March 14, 2017, 01:20:58 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Kevin, if that is true, than this Fleetwood Mac fans are as unimaginative as their musical tastes would suggest. There are several ways to avoid sitting through an unpleasant opening act. I had front row, center, seats to a concert back in the 70s. Sat for exactly one Van Halen song---then retired to the bar for their duration. Had I known how bad they would be, I wouldn't have arrived on time.

Date: Tues, March 14, 2017, 00:54:01 ET
Posted by: Kevin, sleepy in Phoenix

A lot of Fleetwood Mac fans are angry because they have to sit through Journey's set before Fleetwood Mac hit the stage at the Classic East/West Festivals.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 23:34:24 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Stevie, what exactly is your complaint here? Should these artists not tour, because you have categorized them as "classic rock" acts? Should they change the music they play, become younger or just stop playing concerts?

The very idea "baby boomers" flock to every "classic rock" act is absurd, on its face. And Paul Simon (while I'm not his biggest fan) has had success, and has fans, in several genres. And McMike and Boz are a perfect live pairing, I think. (I kind of like both, a little, but I won't be going to their show.)

Dunno. This just seems like an empty complaint. Whining for no reason, really.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 23:08:51 ET
Posted by: Stevie, Los Angeles

Some things never change. Boz Scaggs & Michael McDonald are touring together again this Summer. Paul Simon announced his Summer tour this morning too. Baby boomers are gonna go broke with the huge flood of classic rock acts going back on the road this year.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 22:44:44 ET
Posted by: Pete Lundgren,

Does anyone know what the song "Kind Spirit" is about?
Who might be in reference to?

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 22:23:49 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

I don't get this classic rock festival stuff.
Many in the audience are having trouble sitting through one show, a single concert, keeping incontinence, flatulence and brain numbness from whatevah somewhat in check. Who can do a marathon any longer? Especially when most are only interested in one act. You know there is no chance of any deep cuts and likely a shorter set.
I'm out - unless it's Woodstock II and Jimi Hendrix is showing up.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 21:59:31 ET
Posted by: Toejam, Boston

Guess who else is doing a Las Vegas residency this Summer? Yep, The Who. Didn't these guys play their final farewell tour last year? But this appears to be the normal routine for this band. Ticket prices run from $76 to $501.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 21:07:21 ET
Posted by: Toejam, Boston

Be careful. The organizers want to build an annual franchise around these festivals. So if the concerts are hugely successful then they will do it every Summer. Steely Dan might be booked again next year and open for somebody like Bruce Springsteen or even worse Bon Jovi (who Irving Azoff also manages).

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 20:28:40 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Steve, I think you are pretty much on the mark, with maybe one exception. I doubt Don and Walt are too enthusiastic to be part of a show like this, as they likely consider themselves apart (and above, at least musically) those "classic rock" bands. I know I do. But I'm guessing the money, and doing a solid for Azoff, probably softens the blow, so to speak. Again, since it's just for a night, or two, makes it less of a big deal. They played Bonnachella (or one of those crapfests) last year, and claimed to have a good time. So they can suck it up, and take one for Team Irving.

KD, I'm not quite sure what you mean by a "punk rock sensibility". I take it you are using that in a positive way. But to me, it means taking your image more seriously than your music, believing musicianship isn't as important as owning a pair of black jeans and an ego far larger than your talent deserves. But I sense I'm missing your point, here.

Gil, I seriously doubt anyone who actually attends SD concerts believes they have lost their integrity. I'm guessing this is posted by someone who believes a concert is the setlist, and not the actual music played.


Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 20:13:16 ET
Posted by: Bubba, Buffalo NY

Well I'm not gonna pay big bucks to go to a huge baseball stadium and sit on a dingy metal chair out in the middle of the playing field. It makes my ass sore. The only way I'll watch it is if they stream these concerts online.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 19:36:47 ET
Posted by: Noyura, AH


2017 We Don't Need No Stinking New Album North American Tour Dates:

05/24 -- Fairfax, Va. @ EagleBank Arena
05/27 -- Bangor, Maine @ Darling’s Waterfront Pavilion
05/28 -- Boston, Mass. @ Harvard Athletic Complex
05/30 -- Rochester, N.Y. @ Blue Cross Arena
05/31 -- Hamilton, Ontario @ First Ontario Centre
06/02 -- Montreal, Quebec @ Bell Centre
06/04 -- New York, N.Y. @ Governor’s Ball Festival
06/05 -- Pittsburgh, Pa. @ Petersen Events Center
06/07 -- Clarkston, Mich. (Detroit) @ DTE Energy Music Theatre
06/08 -- Rosemont, Ill. (Chicago) @ Allstate Arena

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 19:19:17 ET
Posted by: Steve Melosa, San Diego

I don't post often, but I do enjoy this site. There may be a lot of bickering now and then but it just shows how much people here love The Dan.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 19:10:24 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

When people think Classic Rock...The Eagles are probably the
group most people would think of. If we're talking late 70's to the early 80's...Fleetwood Mac would also score very high.
They were much more mainstream than Steely Dan but Steely Dan is revered for perhaps having the best music of any 70's band.
I would love to attend any of these shows and I'm sure Don
and Walt are happy to participate as they will be well paid.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 18:51:41 ET
Posted by: Nathan, Philadelphia

I think what might happen is The Eagles may invite Steely Dan & The Doobie Brothers onstage at the end to sing "Peaceful Easy Feeling" as a tribute to the late Glenn Fry. That's what happens at a lot of these big all star rock festivals. All the bands/artists come onstage together for a grand finale song.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 18:21:33 ET
Posted by: Chris, New York

I've never seen Scent of a Woman. I like the early young Al Pacino movies best. My favorite is probably 1975's Dog Day Afternoon. I like Al Pacino's portrayal of Sonny the bank robber.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 17:42:04 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

All of this integrity talk reminded me of part of Al Pacino's big Col. Slade speech in Scent of a Woman:

Because I say you are killing the very spirit this institution proclaims it instills! What a sham! What kind of show are you guys puttin' on here today? I mean, the only class in this act is sittin' next to me. And I'm here to tell you, this boy's soul is intact. It's non-negotiable. You know how I know? someone here and I'm not gonna say who, offered to buy it. Only Charlie here wasn't selling.

Makers of men, creators of leaders, be careful what kind of leaders you're producing here. I don't know if Charlie's silence here today is right or wrong, I'm not a judge or jury. But I can tell you this, he won't sell anybody out to buy his future! And that, my friends, is called integrity. That's called courage. Now that's the stuff leaders should be made of. [pause] Now I have come to the crossroads in my life. I always knew what the right path was; without exception, I knew. But I never took it. You know why? It was too...damn...hard. Now here's Charlie, he's come to the crossroads. He has chosen a path. It's the right path. It's a path made of principle, that leads to character.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 15:11:05 ET
Posted by: Wade, CA beach

I completely agree with Vincent. Shame, shame, shame! as 'ol Gomer Pyle would say.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 13:28:22 ET
Posted by: Watson, San Diego CA

Michael McDonald & Pow Wow sing "Peg" at the Okeechobee Festival on March 4, 2017:

Short clip of Michael McDonald & Pow Wow covering "Kid Charlemagne" on the same night:

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 11:24:43 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Gil, I hope I'm not putting words in your mouth, but I don't think anyone here has questioned Don and Walt's actual integrity through all of this classic rock nonsense, we just don't like the direction.

I've been as annoying a voice as anyone on this website, since the surprise of the (Steely Dan album-less) 2006 tour, shows that featured smaller setlists that lasted even beyond the Michael McDonald appearances (which were AWESOME, something I'd love to see again this summer). It's not cool to see these guys rush to the same places every year to show up with the same setlists, the same cadre of wonky guitars you can never hear, and the same patter in order to prop up a personal financial lifestyle that, even with nobody buying albums, is not in any danger.

Integrity, though? These are the guys that still shell out (so that we may shell out) for Freddie Washington. The songs are above reproach. The integrity's in place, even at the State Fair.

The image has taken some hits, though. The "this is classic rock, no doubt, but these guys have their own punk rock sensibility about what counts, and what doesn't"-ethos that was around during the group's prime and during the original comeback just isn't there anymore.

You can sustain integrity as a nostalgia act, I just wouldn't recommend the sort of effort that has gone into it.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 09:28:34 ET
Posted by: Gil, TX

If you want integrity, ignore/accept what Don and Walt have to do these days to make a buck and listen to their records.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 08:17:30 ET
Posted by: Vincent, Uk

SHAME! Steely Dan on on a bill with Fleetwood Mac and The Eagles. PSHAW! We Brit Dan-fans are made of tougher stuff, and to link the jazzy snark of the Dan with the soft rock witterings of these acts that were tedious in the 70s and now just cutout nostalgia is like schezuan cooking compared to tuna casarole. You boys need to return to Europe where you are still seen as part of a jazz tradition, not the duller sorts of frat boys.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 00:44:27 ET
Posted by: jon, cal

Ida Know- Should be Ida Know Shit.

There is no SD tour this year. A few shows in Vegas and Cal. One in Connecticut and the two with the Doobies and Eagles. An Oct Beacon run will most likely happen. NO SUMMER TOUR.

Date: Mon, March 13, 2017, 00:02:59 ET
Posted by: Grandpa, Simpson

Back in my day, we didn't have bands named after cartoons. We had bands named after respectable things, like dildos. I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time ...

Date: Sun, March 12, 2017, 23:09:25 ET
Posted by: Coach Potato, watching Star Trek

Keith Carlock uploaded a photo of Journey to plug the upcoming Classic West/East Festivals on his Facebook page.

Date: Sun, March 12, 2017, 22:28:48 ET
Posted by: Watson, San Diego CA

Last night Michael McDonald performed at a benefit concert at Santa Monica High School in Santa Monica, CA. Here's Michael with his wife Amy Holland, Weird Al Yankovic and the student orchestra playing Takin' It To The Streets:

Date: Sun, March 12, 2017, 21:52:20 ET
Posted by: Stan, Pine Knob

Date: Sun, March 12, 2017, 10:58:55 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Disgustipated

I very emphatically was never an Eagles fan, even when they were legitimately The Eagles. Now that the legal entity formally & legally known as "The Eagles" will be performing with aftermarket replacement parts, quite possibly for even more money than the wretched, bloated corporation has been paid previously, I find myself thoroughly (but predictably) nauseated. But my bilious digestive system surely won't prevent masses of desperate, easily-fooled people from throwing unbelievable amounts of cash at this latest project, and these two cynical money-grabs ("East & West") will no doubt make gobs & gobs of dough for both the greedy organizers and the elderly pension fund-ing recipients. By now it should be painfully clear that the nostalgic concert-going public of a certain age does not care who the hell is on the stage, as long as the damn songs sound exactly like the recorded versions they are so overly familiar with. And that public is willing to pay for that experience. Through the nose, and with great enthusiasm, apparently.

On other matters, and with loads respect for our good pal Chris, NH (I echo The Dean's pro-Chris sentiments ), I can't even imagine a world where novelty acts like "Ty Dolla $ign", or Lamar Somebody, or a grown man who calls himself Thundercat are rightfully considered Titans Of The Music Industry. Has it really come to this? Clearly the answer is a resounding "YES" and I am officially very, very unhip. Don't feel bad for me, though. I've always been unhip, and that fact has never bothered me in the least.

One of these days, I might just agree to attend a Thundercat show, out of curiosity, if he's playing in my neck of the woods and if someone else paid for my ticket. Maybe. On the right day, I'll bet I could overlook the silliness and just admire the bass playing. Conversely, you could duct-tape me to a wet bean-bag chair and put a silenced .22 to my temple and I still wouldn't consent to sit through an excruciating two hours of The Eagles™ in their latest incarnation.

Even if Steely Dan himself was opening for them...

Date: Sun, March 12, 2017, 10:21:35 ET
Posted by: Charles, CT

Glenn Frey's son's name is Deacon. Some Eagles fans speculate it's an SD nod.

Date: Sun, March 12, 2017, 09:28:36 ET
Posted by: Graham, NY

If you watch that Eagle documentary, arrogant Glenn Frey proclaims that the Eagles are essentially a duo and everyone else a side man. Now that half the "duo" is gone, they'll need to rely on Felder, Leadon, Meisner, etc. as much as they can to make them still seem legit.

Date: Sun, March 12, 2017, 01:47:28 ET
Posted by: Toejam, Boston

You should read the comments from The Eagles fans over at Most of them are disgusted at these Eagles reunion shows and aren't going:

Date: Sun, March 12, 2017, 00:58:46 ET
Posted by: JJ, ir

Jon Herrington / Jim Beard of Steely Dan
Jim Beard and Jon Herington will present an evening of eclectic instrumental music performed on piano and guitar. The two veterans of the acclaimed Steely Dan rhythm section have collaborated on many projects through the years in addition to each other's individual albums, including the jazz supergroup Chroma and releases by Bob Berg, Bill Evans, Michael Brecker, Randy Brecker, and many more. In addition to their long-lived contributions to Steely Dan, Jim brings his deep experience with many of the world's best modern music-makers, including Wayne Shorter, Pat Metheny, John McLaughlin, John Scofield, and Mike Stern, and Jon brings the experience of his many years as a supporting guitarist for Boz Scaggs, Madeleine Peyroux, Donald Fagen, the late Phoebe Snow, and others.

The duo will perform a collection of music that includes jazz standards, pop classics, and selected tunes from their solo recordings. Listeners can expect the unexpected and will be treated to a new approach on songs by luminaries such as Weather Report, The Beatles, The Beach Boys, Steely Dan and many more.

Wednesday, Jun 21, 2017 8:30 PM EDT (7:30 PM Doors)
Iridium, New York, NY

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 23:50:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.



Still a better idea/fit than fucking Green Day. Don't ya think?

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 23:43:29 ET
Posted by: Charles, CT


No band is going to have an opening band playing their covers.

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 23:32:29 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Mitch, thanks for a little late night diversion. There were even some (regrettable but amusing) covers I had not previously heard. If nothing else, I was amused.

But this got me to thinking. Maybe the perfect Dan opening act (for very small venues, of course) are Sara Isaksson & Rebecka Tornqvist. IMO, they consistently deliver the most interesting and beautiful SD covers. Maybe a good pairing for the Scandinavian tour.

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 19:47:13 ET
Posted by: Mitch, TX

I like The Fez cover a lot. No comment on Luke Duke.

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 19:00:00 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,

Turn down the neighbors, the Eagles are listening.

$$ dictated the decision. Azoff found a mountain of $$ in an eagle's nest. Henley, Donald, Walter are taking their payday.

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 18:55:55 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Yeah. Ida Lee doesn't sound that much like Tomorrow's Girls at all. More Walter than Donald, anyway. "the man from the skyway" that's about as close.

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 17:34:41 ET
Posted by: Toejam, Boston

Good clip of Michael McDonald & Catherine Russell belting out the Motown classic "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" at the Love Rocks NYC Benefit concert on March 9 at the Beacon Theatre:

Nice to see Michael standing up instead of sitting behind his keyboards.

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 17:34:09 ET
Posted by: LUTZ, SF

San Diego tickets for the first rows are $499.50 on ticketmaster, before fees. Then it quickly drops $ 20 per row for us regular cheapos.
To accomodate the real tightwads it's only $ 185.- way in the back for those that want to sit with service personal, babysitters and out of work political consultants.
One might even score a free snack back there, but is it safe?

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 17:25:47 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Toejam, you were right. But my original response to your post took offense to (what I thought was) an implication that Azoff would dictate SD's appearance. Upon further review of your initial post, I have no idea why I thought you meant that. There was really nothing to suggest it. My bad. Sorry bout that.

I'm also not crazy about SD being less than the headliner. But I'm pretty sure the Eagles were the more commercially successful act. So in the music biz, that makes the Eagles the headliner. I'm just a bit surprised SD agreed to do it. Like I said, must have been a lot of dinero involved. As long as stuff likes this happens in one-off situations (or in this case, two-off), I don't think it's too big of a deal. I'd be more concerned, and quite frankly shocked, if they agreed to do a tour as anything other than a headliner.

I'm very interested in hearing Pete Fogel's "Big News". I wonder if I still have his email address....

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 16:30:35 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Super clean clip of the Dukes from the Lincoln Center in 2014. Who's that Lady? Lowdown. Peg.

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 16:19:47 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

That's what you call a reality check. Whether we like it or not, it's all about money when it comes to touring these days, and, based on attending two Eagles concerts and several SD concerts in the past 15 years, the Eagles easily and significantly outdraw SD. I'm not a big Eagles fan - although I really like Joe Walsh - but the money-paying concert-going public has spoken, and it's not even close.

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 16:14:22 ET
Posted by: Ida Know, TJ

Maybe 'cause Eagles been packing them arenas solid tour after tour?

Get ready for Doobie/Steely tour announcement soon. Then Beacon run confirmation soon after.

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 15:44:42 ET
Posted by: Toejam, Boston

It's just been confirmed. The Doobie Brothers and Steely Dan will open for The Eagles on Friday night:

Bad move for Steely Dan. Why should Steely Dan take a backseat to The Eagles?

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 14:32:12 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

I'd rather Steely Dan open for Green Day, rather than the Iggles. Hey, Walter played with Johnny and Tommy Ramone with Randy California as youths (Tangerine Puppets) back in Queens, amirite?

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 13:58:42 ET
Posted by: Charles, CT

After that shared bill with Duran Duran a couple years ago, nothing they do anymore should surprise anyone.

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 12:16:10 ET
Posted by: Toejam, Boston

See Dean? I told you Steely Dan might open for The Eagles at the Classic East & West Rock Festivals in July. I know the order of appearance has not been announced yet but I can assure you Steely Dan WILL play right before The Eagles. Me? I don't care for The Eagles or overcrowded rock festivals so I'm staying away from Irving Azoff's cash grab fiasco. The Doobie Brothers will probably play right before Steely Dan.

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 06:44:01 ET
Posted by: Charles, CT

Strainer, yes, Ida Lee was the correct answer. Since it referenced a published work I wasn't sure a follow up was necessary.

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 04:10:34 ET
Posted by: pictures, at an exibtiion

greg lake

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 03:15:32 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

@chrisnh,no offense taken here. I have friends who are amazed at the range of music I listen to besides the Dan. Even though like the Dean, I too am an old hippie!

Date: Sat, March 11, 2017, 01:54:35 ET
Posted by: chris, nh

Sorry if anyone took offense, "too hip" wasn't the best choice - although I was referring to the masses at SD shows, the types who would take a bathroom break during Second Arrangement, not folks who post here (except maybe Gino). A lot of music we all like goes over people's heads. That's all. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with not digging that one artist, whose name I will stop mentioning because this a Steely Dan discussion site.

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 23:13:31 ET
Posted by: Brain Strainer, boiling pissed off--potential aneurysm..

@Charles of CT. Yeah YOU!

On Feb 21 of this year you posted the following:

"The new SD FAQ book makes a good "Brain Strainer" type comparison between Fagen's Tomorrow's Girls and an early years demo song. Name that demo. People who already read it can't play!

It is now March 10, and you have NOT provided the answer to this question. In accordance with Bluebook Principles, answers to trivia or other questions posed must be posted after a reasonable time for responses has occurred, but NOT to exceed ONE calendar week. As of today, 10 days have passed since your one week requirement to post the proposed answer elapsed.

If you are going to post questions, dude, you need to follow up and be responsible. Most people, particularly Dan Denizens--don't like to be dicked around with.....

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 23:10:46 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba, west of Brentwood, but not Hollywood

DeaconBlues16, Chris, I liked the links. I'm going to dive a bit deeper.

"Thundercat" seems to have an Earth, Wind, and Fire feel to me. Interesting that he teamed up with McDonald and Loggins. But then I saw the links to Erykah Badu, and I started to recognize the sound.

I'm not particularly hip. I vaguely know that Kendrick is popular. And Flying Lotus went right over my head.

But fellas, if you don't know who Erykah Badu is -- it's possible you haven't been hip for 20 years :-)

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 22:43:13 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Yep. Azoff hauling in some coin. Lay down your Benjamins.

"Classic East and Classic West are being compared to last year's Desert Trip festival at the Empire Polo Club in Indio, California. The Goldenvoice-promoted event took place over two weekends and included performances by The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Roger Waters, Bob Dylan, Neil Young and The Who, generating a staggering $160 million gross. AEG Presents Chairman Jay Marciano has not yet revealed if Desert Trip will return in 2017."

Fleetwood Mac
Steely Dan

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 21:32:01 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

steelydoc, great info. Here's the link:

No word yet (as far as I can see) on the order of the acts. A bit of a surprise, to me, at least. Not terribly shocking, as it is only for two shows, though. It must be one big payday.

Gino, another great post. I understood what you were saying. And, for what it's worth, I didn't realize Flying Lotus and Ty Dolla $ign were considered among the biggest names in music. As far not being "hip enough" to appreciate them, well I don't know. What is hip, anyway?

Perhaps we should be looking at this?

While it may be true that some of us aren't hip to acts like Flying Lotus and Ty Dolla $ign, does that mean we aren't hip enough to dig it? Then again, perhaps my advancing age demographically prohibits me from being hip. Hell, I might be looking a a hip replacement in the not-too-distant future.

Whatever you do, please don't take this in an attack on Chris, in any way. He is a terrific poster, and a great voice for the younger generation of Dan fans, IMO. I may not share his tastes in some music, but I respect it. Hip or not.

I guess I'm just an old hippie.

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 20:57:44 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, Philly

Steely Dan and the Doobie Brothers will be joining the Eagles for the opening nights of the Classic East and Classic West shows in July. Confirmed by

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 15:08:02 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 15:06:48 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Mt Belzoni: Yeah, SoS is fantastic live. They indeed dig that Lauro Nyro vein well. Corinne Drewery's voice just fits into that pocket. Andy Connell mans the keyboards. High professional quality band. Agreed that they could seamlessly do some Nyro songs together.

Most here probably now that Gary Katz recorded an excellent album with Nyro and "the usual suspects:" Purdue, Freddie, Elliott, Brecker Bros, Marini,

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 13:53:43 ET
Posted by: Gino F. , "I may not know them", indeed

Chris, NH - C'mon Bro/ need to be so prickly or defend your personal choices in music so vehemently. I wasn't trying to upset you, I was just making light of what looks like some pretty lightweight stuff. I figure anyone who calls himself "Thundercat" deserves at least a little ridicule, no? And all those silly goodness...

The memorable quotes I posted were NOT from any Wikipedia page, they were from an online interview I actually read from start to finish. I'd post the link, but it's a pretty dull-witted, sycophantic affair, and not at all Dangential. That article also prominently features a picture of the guy who calls himself "Thundercat" all dressed up as cartoon character Captain America, another photo of his large hand tattoos, and more references to "shit" than I'm willing to count. No, really - here's another memorable quote from the guy who calls himself "Thundercat":

"You're trying to prioritize what's supposed to make sense to you in a time when people are just throwing shit at you," he says. "You're supposed to do all this shit and then still be this creative person and have a perspective on shit that's not too out-to-lunch." So what do you do? You sit here, stare at the [shit on the] screen. That's a joke me and Flying Lotus have: you stare at the screen long enough and shit changes."


And, no, I would not evaluate someone's music based on a Wikipedia page, but as I said, I didn't do that at all. I also noticed that you rather conspicuously left one of the biggest of the Big Names In Music with a notable "Thundercat" connection - the one and only "Ty Dolla $ign" - off your list of Big Music Names. Even with my admittedly limited knowledge of the Biggest Names In Modern Music, hell, even I know that "Ty Dolla $ign" definitely belongs on that list.

Finally, for your information, "finding quotes to scoff at" is a hobby of mine. I really enjoy my hobby. It means a lot to me.

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 13:52:00 ET
Posted by: Mt. Belzoni, Portland OR

Here is one of Swing Out Sister's versions of Laura Nyro's Stoned Soul Picnic, with a bit of Jr. Walker & the All Stars' Walk In The Night mixed in for good measure:

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 13:00:22 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Gino - So you evaluate whether or not you like someone's music based on their Wikipedia page?

I specifically left out bluebookers when I said he'd be too hip for a lot of the audience - I bet a lot of people here would dig some of the youtube links posted. But that would require listening and not finding quotes to scoff at.

By the way, Kendrick, Erykah Badu and Flying Lotus? You may not know them, and you may not like them, but they are indeed some of the biggest names in modern music.

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 11:44:33 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

The name Thundercat is only legit if someone else comes up with it and it sticks. If you come up with Thundercat on your own and then go by that, you need help. No matter how hip you are.

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 11:28:48 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Not Hip Enough To Appreciate The Finer Things

Here's a quote from the guy who calls himself Thundercat:

"On some songs you hear me burp or fart, or my phone goes off [...] that's really how it was recorded."

Certainly sounds like he's captured the essence of SD's approach to recording, at least on the surface.

Here's another quote, from the same article:

"The 32-year-old, born Stephen Bruner, has spent the last decade-plus touring, writing, and recording with a litany of music's biggest names: Badu, Kendrick Lamar, Flying Lotus, Ty Dolla $ign, et al."

Look - he works with Music's Biggest Names, just like D & W have done!

Still, though, he does sound just a little too "hip" for my tastes. My loss, I guess.

PS - "Music's biggest names"

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 10:32:29 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

I love Thundercat - saw him live a couple weeks ago, absolutely slamming live show. Huge sound from a trio (keys, bass, drums).

I think a lot of Blue Bookers would dig a lot of his stuff but he'd be too hip for the majority of the audience.

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 10:21:31 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

Has anyone ever heard of Thundercat? I think that would be an interesting choice for a presumptive opener, but I doubt it would ever happen.

Here's a song he did with Kenny Loggins and Michael McDonald:

And another that I get a bit of an SD vibe, particularly the sax at the end:

He definitely shares a sensibility with SD, he definitely wouldn't be seen as a "nostalgia grab" opener (and therefore lend some sort of mythical musical authenticity in a way), and he would at least potentially expose SD to different demographics.

However, I'm not sure if it would work logistically or for other reasons.

In other news, Pete Fogel posted in the dandom group on Facebook about "exciting news" for the summer and we'll "find about it soon enough." In the comments, he indicated it was NOT tour related...

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 08:56:27 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

ps i'm not sure a song about sex is a good segue into a song about a recording studio but then again didn't burroughs always say that his best creative out put happened after the fact? you might have something there, it all comes together somehow.

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 08:42:18 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

much love for anyone who covers laura nyro, as an avid fan/stalker (an old friend and i used to drive up to her house take pictures of the beauty up there and then go back and draw them for art class)
I will have to check out SOS.

Date: Fri, March 10, 2017, 02:39:24 ET
Posted by: Mt. Belzoni, Portland OR

I'll add my voice to those who think Swing Out Sister would make a good opening act. Very tuneful stuff, nice arrangements, intriguing chords, and their live recordings make them seem to be a good live act (though we know such albums are often extensively post-produced).

And they do cover Laura Nyro tunes occasionally. Might be very interesting to hear D&W cover a Nyro tune - Upstairs By a China Lamp (segued into Aja)? I Am The Blues? Money? Poverty Train? After all, we never got to hear their cover of Joni's Carey.

Date: Thurs, March 09, 2017, 20:01:59 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Randy, good question. I don't think anyone here knows, for sure, what's going on this summer. But I believe a tour is likely. Should there be a tour, I don't think we know what sort of venues they will play. I prefer the smaller venues (obviously), so I can do without a bloated lineup that includes some big name rock band. I'm thinking, if they continue with the Reelin in the Chips theme, it might be a casino heavy tour. But that's a big IF.

Date: Thurs, March 09, 2017, 18:56:56 ET
Posted by: Donald Trump, Twitter

"Bluebookers think they actually know something about who might or might not open for Steely Dan. Pathetic/Sad."

Date: Thurs, March 09, 2017, 12:56:37 ET
Posted by: Randy, OH

So a summer tour is a foregone conclusion? And it's just a question of who's opening?

Date: Thurs, March 09, 2017, 10:50:59 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

While I would love to see Joey Defrancesco open for SD, unless they go back to playing indoor smaller venues I just don't see it happening. When they perform in the larger sheds they need another name with broad marquee value on the bill. Joey D is in line with Bobby Broom...while great music, they do not draw as many as Mike McD, or Winwood. Even at that they had difficulty selling tickets at a lot of the shows. No where close to capacity.

Earlier Chicago was discussed as an opener. Made me smile because back in 1973 on their one and only national tour Steely Dan opened for Chicago. At least in Tampa Stadium they did.

Date: Thurs, March 09, 2017, 08:57:49 ET
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Date: Thurs, March 09, 2017, 05:46:10 ET
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Date: Thurs, March 09, 2017, 00:49:15 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Gino, you hit the nail on the head, yet again.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 21:28:41 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Shocked & apalled - no, wait, "devastated"

@DYLYNFAN - Of all the people here suggesting unpleasant & inappropriate 2017 SD show openers, you're the only one so far to suggest reprehensible crap deliberately, knowing full well that it's reprehensible crap. A sense of humor - I like that in a Bluebook poster.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 21:28:30 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

SoS: lots of major and minor 7th chords...a good fit I think.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 21:21:43 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Mac: What do you think about Swing Out Sister? They have some chops in the Laura Nyro zone.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 21:18:06 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,

KD, Mike: We're in complete agreement.

Titillating news re: Rundgren. Donald and TR collaborated on some songs some time I imagine a few of them might find their way onto the album..Donald really still enjoys working and participating. Maybe if Walter had more gas in the tank they'd record another SD album. I don't think he has the patience anymore. Donald has another album in his belt - he continues to write songs - maybe some studio time in the near future per a story from 2016.

In the end, it seems D&W just stay in their respective comfort zones. Whether recording, collaborating, or in concert.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 20:55:23 ET
Posted by: Mac, Ventura CA

I want to see Basia open for Steely Dan. She's the Polish jazz-pop vocalist who scored big in the late '80s with hits like Cruising for Bruising, New Day for You, Promises and Time & Tide. She fits in perfectly with the Steely Dan sound.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 20:17:14 ET

Some of these suggestions for the opening act slot got me thinking who would be the worst choices as a lead-off hitter. I throw a few out there:
Creed, Nickleback and The Goo Goo Dolls.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 18:59:24 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Toejam, Azoff doesn't tell SD what to do. If they don't care to open for the Eagles (I'm guessing they don't), then they won't. Azoff works for Steely Dan---not the other way around. For some acts, it may seem like the opposite, I'm guessing. But not for SD. Anyway, the two headliners are booked for those festivals, so it doesn't look as if there is any room for The Dan.

Alkali, I happen to like some of those acts, but none (with the possible exception of Dweezil) are appropriate openers for SD. You have to keep in mind, while they don't have to be musically similar, they probably have to have Walt and Don's respect. I think you can add "never happen" to every artist on your list.

Lutz, if there is an opening act for the bulk of the tour, I'd expect it to be something like Joey D. I think an inexpensive act, that could use the exposure and plays music that appeals to Don and Walt, is what we should probably expect. And, I agree with you---that works perfectly, IMO. I also really enjoyed Madeleine Peyroux. But I think she's more of a special event, NYC thing.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 18:04:56 ET
Posted by: Toejam, Boston

This Summer we may see Steely Dan open for The Eagles. If Irving Azoff books Steely Dan for his Classic East & Classic West Music Festivals in July he might put them on right before The Eagles play. Anything is possible. Then the joke will be on us.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 16:46:16 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

Bands that should open for SD:
Mos Def
Tori Amos
CeeLo Green
Damon Albarn (never happen)
Dweezil Zappa

Those that should not:
any band with the word “Girl”, “Chick”, “Metal” or “Gun” anywhere in their name and David Cassidy.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 15:49:38 ET
Posted by: Chad, TX

Whether being the opener or headliner, SD has always been very persnickety as to the pairings. After all, they did open for Slade.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 13:46:19 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Alvin, I agree with you. I would have chosen an obscure
act like the Ozark Mountain Daredevils. Just something that the fans would enjoy. Other 70's/80's groups like Ambrosia or Firefall would satisfy the fans. I saw Firefall last year and their 7 song set opening for "Little River Band" was really better than "LRB".
In my opinion, it will be hard to top Steve Winwood
as a touring partner.
He brought in fans interested in his music. He had
a great catalog of tunes to choose from and his choices from the
"Traffic/Spencer Davis Group" era really brought value to his set.
He left the fans wanting for more !!!

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 13:44:07 ET
Posted by: Chad, TX

Rundgren references Fagen as @donaldfagen on Twitter, but that's not really him.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 13:33:28 ET
Posted by: Alvin, Spokane WA

Why does an opening act have to have something in common with the headliner? Kool & the Gang was chosen to open for Van Halen on their 2012 Tour. These two bands are worlds apart yet the crowd really enjoyed it. I checked Kool & the Gang's tour schedule and noticed they are open for July and August. They would be great for Steely Dan. By the way, it was David Lee Roth who picked Kool & the Gang to open for Van Halen. A brilliant and gutsy move by Diamond Dave.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 13:33:20 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

My favorite opener was Joey DeFrancesco in 2008 or 9 before the Royal Scam show. Real cool, fresh jazzy organ stuff, more in line with what the band likely listens to. Not some stale has been pop act like some of the one's mentioned here.
Maybe Winwood did but Costello did not bring in many more fans - most people arrived after the opener for the main act - at the 2 shows I was at.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 12:58:18 ET
Posted by: Barn Boss, Los Angeles

If you go on Todd Rundgren's twitter page you can see a recent photo of Donald Fagen slouching on the couch. He looks very weary and tired. Just don't mistake him for producer Hal Willner. They are just wearing similar shirts and kind of look the same.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 12:37:36 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

The boys have never toured with Boz Scaggs so I would list him as a prime touring candidate if there ever was one.
I looked at his website and he's already got a couple of August dates listed but looks like he's got most of his Summer free.
Perhaps he will be the touring partner !

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 12:25:44 ET
Posted by: Fred, VT

Hall & Oates were much more commercially successful than SD. So as a band hired to play for a general audience, yes it makes sense that there would be more people willing to take in H&O vs D&W. As Dean said, it does not indicate flagging interest in SD. For broad commercial appeal, they were never up there with Fleetwood Mac, Eagles, Elton John, Hall & Oates and many other more popular acts. Maybe briefly in 1978, but never before or after.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 12:02:49 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Dean gets it again.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 11:42:43 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

I love SD and like TFF, but other than their careers overlapping for a period of time, I'm struggling to see a commonality that makes sense.

I suppose one could say something similar of Elvis Costello, though I would argue the cleverness of lyrics is at least somewhat in common.

The other problem is splitting gate proceeds. SD ticket prices are already up there. An opening act that is going to demand a big portion of that seems unlikely.

Let's face it. Its only a matter of a few years before the Dan is doing 7 nights of 45 minute shows on Holland America. We're getting old.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 11:28:13 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Why would anyone think "Tears for Fears WOULD open for Steely Dan this Summer"? (emphasis mine) Have they ever opened for them in the past? Do Don and Walt talk about their love/respect/admiration/whatever for them? Are they rooted in jazz, R&B and the Great American Songbook? I can understand if you WANT (for whatever reason) TfF to open for SD, but don't expect it. IMO, musically these two bands shouldn't be playing in the same state, on the same day.

And Sinbad, how does comparing ticket sales for another band, last year, to ticket sales for SD this year, have anything to do with changing interest in SD? If SD tickets at that event sold much faster last year, you might be able to conclude the slower sales this year were due to declining interest. But comparing their sales to a completely different band, says NOTHING about the change in interest for SD.

Seriously, I expect far more intelligent posts from a SD community. At least posts that make logical sense, or have some humor.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 10:28:47 ET
Posted by: Sinbad, Concord NH

Interest in Steely Dan is declining. Ticket sales went slow yesterday for the Greenwich Town Party show on May 27. Last year Hall & Oates was the headliner and they sold out the general admission tickets much quicker than Steely Dan.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 02:52:44 ET
Posted by: Twigs, in bed

I thought Tears for Fears would open for Steely Dan this Summer but Hall & Oates nabbed them instead. Have you heard "Raoul and the Kings of Spain" by Tears for Fears? It's a masterpiece. It holds up to any song by Steely Dan. Tears for Fears is a remarkable band. Excellent songwriting and musicianship. They would blend in well with Steely Dan.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 01:11:43 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

I think the key member in Chicago was Terry Kath with his strong blues influence. After his death, Peter Cetera came to the forefront singing his soggy ballads and lightweight pop tunes. Then David Foster became producer in the early '80s and completely ruined Chicago. He turned them into a slick commercial pop band with Peter Cetera as the main lead vocalist and pushed the horn section way in the background. He pretty much destroyed Chicago.

Date: Wed, March 08, 2017, 00:21:32 ET
Posted by: Mt. Belzoni, Portland OR

The Chicago Transit Authority (later Chicago) actually began its career as an innovative band that combined horns and guitars very deftly, and wrote some great extended material. Their first 2 albums were classics, and their 4 LP live Carnegie Hall set was as well.

Unfortunately, as many of its members acknowledge, they scored a few pop hits and relaxed into a creative decline soon thereafter. Yet one more band that opted to devote their attentions to women, drugs and egos instead of making great music for fans, and they've been sort of a punch line for nearly 40 years. But those early albums were wonderful.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 21:02:05 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

I love Todd. I try to see him every chance I get. One time Todd got really angry at the audience because he kept playing new material from his "Arena" album. Some people started to leave so Todd yelled at them. These people can't absorb anything new. All they want to hear is the same damn hits which Todd refused to play. I also loved his tour with Joe Jackson some years back.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 20:39:01 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

That's right. Todd's new album will be called "White Knight" with Donald Fagen on piano. No word yet if Donald is doing any vocals on the album.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 20:11:33 ET
Posted by: drewslo, San Luis Obispo

Just saw that Donald Fagen will be guesting on Todd Rundgren's upcoming album this spring. The song is called "Tin Foil Hat". I assume Donald will be singing with Todd.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 19:50:45 ET
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Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 18:20:39 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Doc Mu,

that came off on me judging the merits of Chicago (eh) and Toto (double eh, less than the sum of its parts to me), which I wasn't, just me stepping over my words without contact lenses in. I'm not shooting down either band as artists even if I'm not a fan, and certainly not their viability as openers. Because they'd TOTALLY fit, if Becker and Fagen decided to give a little bit more of their soul up.

We've all seen the summer classic rock circuit make for some strange bedfellows, and any Toto/Chicago/AWB addition wouldn't rank under that characterization. I'd never call either act "Steely Dan Lite," though Toto has a case, but I do think Don and Walt would have a major problem touring with an act that, on paper and to others, reminds them of Steely Dan.

Maybe I'm projecting, but don't think Becker and Fagen fancy themselves as part of a big family tree in this realm. On their own island (witness Becker's reaction to being compared to 10cc), and more keen to pick performers that share more of a sensibility (Costello mostly, and Winwood and Mike McDoobie to a degree) than a sound.

This is why we've been wondering about Joe Jackson on here since the 2006 tour, and it's why Rickie Lee Jones made made sense in NYC.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 17:44:19 ET
Posted by: Neal, NJ

Mike- Sunken Condos came out in 2012 and hardly anybody gave a shit. Apparently more people want to see them in concert. You can stop laughing now.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 15:07:52 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

Neal...what's so funny about it? I guess I would think there's more of an "overwhelming demand" for a new Steely Dan album instead of a second show at Humphrey's. Just my viewpoint.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 14:40:40 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

More Michael McDonald videos from Saturday's Okeechobee Music Festival are starting to appear now. This one is my favorite. Watch Michael, Snarky Puppy horns and others cover Earth, Wind & Fire's "Shining Star":

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 13:43:31 ET
Posted by: Sinbad, Concord NH

This morning I was monitoring ticket sales for Steely Dan's May 27 appearance at the Greenwich Town Party. It took 30 minutes for the $85 general admission seats to sell out. As of now, only the higher priced Sponsor & Neighbor tickets are still available. Compare that to James Taylor who completely sold out within 5 minutes in 2013.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 12:34:19 ET
Posted by: Dennis, NYC

Irving Azoff is bad for music consumers like us. He inflates ticket prices so only the wealthy can get the good seats. He created Global Music Rights to go after YouTube and remove anything that infringes on copyrights. A lot of good concert footage and music were pulled from YouTube thanks to Azoff. He's also a bit of a lunatic. He lit menus on fire at restaurants, sent live boa constrictors to rivals and once used a chainsaw to cut through a hotel room wall. A real crazed mental case douchebag.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 12:13:10 ET
Posted by: Neal, NJ

Mike- What's so funny about that? Please explain.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 12:02:49 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

"He may be the devil, but he's our devil."

Without Azoff, Aja is not a hit.

Michael McDonald, Winwood, Costello (Imperial Bedroom,Painted from Memory are enough), and yes the dreaded Toto are good fit for touring.

Not sure about Chicago as a dual tour - but I'd go to see it.

Chicago began as kind of a protest/jazz inflected band. Free at Last from their newest album XXXVI isn't horrible:

Anything that's "funked up muzak," where SD has ended up in musical heaven as they wind things down. I think SD music survives (and it will in the eyes of musicians), but even as it's played less and less or radio - if there's a song that endures - it's FM, in my mind. The chord progression under "the girls don't seem to care" is ridiculous


Subversive schlock at it's best as they funk up the "fake jazz," as Prof. Fagen calls it.

Toto is more boyish, updated 60s schlock revving up the funked up muzak. More like the Wrecking Crew playing their own tunes - light in nature, but very good musicianship. Up through Seventh One, only Hydra approaches being serious. Post-Jeff, things get more depressing: I Will Remember You. It's Steely Dan lite, although faux rebellion would belie that suggestion.

IDC. I could put Jeff's intro drum roll on a loop and listen to for an hour on Pamela...and dig a sustained chord here and there.

XIV suffers from excessive tracks, brick walling and primacy-recency stuff. The weakest tracks are up front and promoted as singles.

21st Century Blues
Little Things - nice pop ditty
All the Tears that Shine
Great Expectations

are actually pretty good. Running out of Time, Burn are awful.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 11:28:47 ET
Posted by: Burt, NY

Who says Azoff is all about the money?

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 10:57:31 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

And it is to Steely Dan's credit that they haven't been THAT cynical in adding acts to the tour. Azoff either has tried and failed to add shitty openers to the bill, or wouldn't try knowing what Don and Walt think of those acts.

I would and have gone to see Elvis Costello and Stevie Winwood outside of Dan shows. Costello and Dan might seem incongruous to some in 1977 (and to those who weren't paying much attention last summer), but by the mid-80s or so it was realized that Costello had quite a lot in common with Don and Walt (and was a fan himself). Winwood's Traffic, for a lot of us, loosened the soil for us in ways that allowed us to become Steely Dan fans later.

You can like Chicago, Hall and Oates, Average White Band (who I listened to last night) or any other somewhat-similar acts on your own all you'd like, but I think Steely Dan sees their music as lessened in comparative staging (on the same night, together?) by acts like these. Toto works along those lines, too, though I can't stand them.

It's good that you don't see Orleans hopping aboard the ship. Or the McDonald-less Doobies. Or Boz. All these slim-yet-somewhat similar acts in terms of demograpics that could drive the price up a good 150 percent.

That could change in 2018, though.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 10:48:13 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

The ex-punk rock kid in me could never sit through Boston's second album all the way through, but I respect the hell out of those first bits of work from Scholz. Basically corporate rock's version of ABBA.

It's true that Irving Azoff acts are all about the money and Steely Dan (while not being a big part of that, save for the odd soundtrack appearance) plays into this, it's probably more about the creature comforts for them.

This isn't a shot but I'm sure Becker and Fagen put up with the hot sheds in July at night so as long as they can keep the direct flights and limited bus work that other artists of their age and record-moving ability (that is to say, "old" and "none") don't have the literal luxury to do.

Don and Walt will still tour and charge for those tickets just as long as they can keep the high end players (that bands like theirs can't usually afford, unless you're Eric Clapton -- acts like Toto typically only get one super-expensive guy like Keith Carlock, SD has a stage full of them), and stick to the same routine when it comes to travel. The same routine that Donald Fagen bitched understandably about missing so much while on the top-heavy (more star mouths to feed, just not Walt's) Dukes lineup in his book.

The guys still want to party like it's 1994, and the music is better off for it -- the players we end up paying for are brilliant, and the songwriters are rested and mostly cheerful.

The sound (in a lot of these places), the setting (YAY, a shitty concrete shed 40 miles out of the city in August!), the setlist and the price, however, leave a lot to be desired as the group has comfortably settled into the Classic Rock Retirement Home routine.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 10:41:25 ET
Posted by: Moe, angry

That's because Irving Azoff is a greedy scumbag manager. He's a piece of shit. Music only means money to this clown.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 09:18:07 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

Artists with Azoff are all about the money (in my humble opinion). That is what he brings to the table. Hence, why SD is playing outdoor sheds on hot summer nights. The Doobie Brother's recently signed with Azoff and now they play the same outdoor sheds as SD and have been "packaged" with Journey and this year Chicago. To get tickets up close a person has to pay an arm and a leg for the privilege of a band logoed nylon bag under what they call a VIP ticket.

Date: Tues, March 07, 2017, 09:11:57 ET
Posted by: Jack, TX

Wondering how long SD is going to use that vintage photo of Don & Walt (as you see on their home page). It dates back to when they toured to support a new release and played two sets.

Date: Mon, March 06, 2017, 20:06:57 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

Not going. Boston's first two albums were OK but after that it was all downhill. They evolved into a bombastic Journey type band. Their current work is unlistenable. The songs all sound the same. Garbage. Pretentious schlock rock.

Date: Mon, March 06, 2017, 19:45:44 ET
Posted by: Joe, PU

For those of you with Boston on the mind, we’ve got something even tastier than a slice of Boston cream pie or a serving of Boston baked beans. Tom Scholz and the band just announced a new run of U.S. tour dates, featuring Joan Jett & The Blackhearts.
The summer excursion is part of Boston’s 2017 “Hyper Space Tour,” which promises more than 50 gigs in total. The trek kicks off April 14 in Hollywood, Fla.
The new leg with Jett & The Blackhearts begins June 14 at the Shoreline Amphitheatre in Mountain View, Calif., and concludes July 30 in Bristow, Va.

Daryl Hall & John Oates are hitting the road with Tears For Fears for a North American co-bill that will run for almost two months. Opening on the trek will be the acoustic stylings of Allen Stone.

Date: Mon, March 06, 2017, 19:24:54 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

Joe Jackson back for another US Summer tour? One thing I like about Joe is he never replays the same setlist on every tour. He adds new songs, old songs and cover versions to keep his shows fresh.

Date: Mon, March 06, 2017, 18:45:34 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Joe Jackson appears in Clearwater, FL at the Capital Theatre
on 6/3.
Yes, Toto has announced some tour dates and is also touring Europe for additional dates later on in Summer 2017.

Date: Mon, March 06, 2017, 17:25:57 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

Steely Dan's Facebook page says second show at Humphrey's was added "due to overwhelming demand". lol

Date: Mon, March 06, 2017, 17:05:51 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

According to this review, only the Snarky Puppy horns played at the Okeechobee Music Festival. The review also contains a more complete video of Michael McDonald & Solange singing What a Fool Believes.

Date: Mon, March 06, 2017, 15:37:58 ET
Posted by: canoe-gate, marina

second date added at Humphrey's

presale tomorrow I think

Date: Mon, March 06, 2017, 15:31:25 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

Tour schedule for Jim Beard & Jon Herington duo:

June 15: Kennett Flash in Kennett Square, PA

June 16: Roy's Hall in Blairstown, NJ

June 21: The Iridium in New York

June 22: The Falcon in Marlsboro, NY

June 24: Lachat Community Garden in Weston, CT

Date: Mon, March 06, 2017, 13:25:46 ET
Posted by: Toto Fanatic, listening to Toto

Toto is back for "An Evening with Toto" Summer Tour beginning on June 2 with more dates to be announced. Go to for more info. This is going to be a great Summer.

Date: Mon, March 06, 2017, 13:01:05 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

Short video of Michael McDonald singing What a Fool Believes with Solange on Saturday's Okeechobee Music Festival:

Date: Mon, March 06, 2017, 12:38:25 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

I just took a quick peek at Jon Herington's website and noticed Jon & Jon Beard have added tour dates on June 16,21,22 and 24.

Date: Mon, March 06, 2017, 11:05:46 ET
Posted by: Potsie, Arnold's Drive In

Hi everybody. Remember Donny Most? He played Ralph Malph in the TV series Happy Days. Donny has just a released a new jazz vocal album called Mostly Swinging. Please buy and listen to his album here:

Date: Sun, March 05, 2017, 19:04:03 ET
Posted by: I couldn't resist, and you shouldn't either*

Date: Sun, March 05, 2017, 16:14:11 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Yes. Yes, that's what I believe.

Date: Sun, March 05, 2017, 14:58:55 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Also, please never forget that Lou Chang, her brother, he's burning with rage.

Date: Sun, March 05, 2017, 14:44:39 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

That up tempo version of Here at the Western World has a Paul Simon feel to it.

Date: Sun, March 05, 2017, 11:41:44 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach. Sunday Madness!

So, KD, you believe Walt and Don chose their horn section, for the sole reason of perpetuating the "all sax" joke? That's some high-concept stuff, right there.

Date: Sun, March 05, 2017, 11:13:11 ET
Posted by: Clint, CA

Those 1994 boots are the best.

Date: Sun, March 05, 2017, 10:27:29 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Listening to a 1994 boot and laughing at the idea that Fagen and Becker would basically borderline sabotage and shitcan their elaborate and brilliant horn charts from previous years in order to just keep up with the joke about only having saxophones in the brass section.

Date: Sat, March 04, 2017, 21:34:11 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Tom: Holy f***, that's one helluva soundboard recording. IMO maybe the best tour of all.

Date: Sat, March 04, 2017, 21:29:56 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Gino: High bids right now for the alternative tix are DJ Trump and V Putin. Familiar faces that ain't smiling' anymore...

Date: Sat, March 04, 2017, 18:58:28 ET
Posted by: Bill W., Lockport, NY

Gino, I hope you realize that when KD sees your post about the expired Dan tix, he's going to pick up on the misogyny, racism, and homophobia that only he can see, and you're going to get another real blast. Wait for it. Just a heads up, an FYI.

Date: Sat, March 04, 2017, 18:31:17 ET
Posted by: Al, NB

I was all set to bid, but then realized it was Elvis Costello in 2015, not Steve Winwood.

Date: Sat, March 04, 2017, 18:20:01 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Carefully searching eBay for SD treasures

Someone on eBay is selling a trio of SD tickets to last year's July 02 Charlotte NC concert:

It's all pretty tempting, because the concert has already happened, and the tickets are only $1500 for the set of three. And the seller's description points out that these are original tickets, not reproductions, making the offering that much more alluring.

Note also that although these are tickets for the 2016 show, the listing says they're for the 2015 show - a show that never happened because it was never even scheduled. That probably makes these even more of a collector's item.

If you're looking to spend fifteen hundred clams on three little bits of stiff paper, this is your big opportunity. Don't miss out - the listing ends in two days.

Date: Sat, March 04, 2017, 16:19:04 ET
Posted by: McDaniel, Okeechobee

full review later on.

Date: Sat, March 04, 2017, 16:16:20 ET
Posted by: McDaniel, at Okeechobee

Well, the schedule we were given says members of Snarky Puppy plus special guests. Michael goes onstage on from 10:45pm to midnight. Place is sold out and overcrowded. Mainly a young audience. The atmosphere is just like Coachella. Back later with a more

Date: Sat, March 04, 2017, 12:28:18 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

McDaniel, Snarky Puppy or just the horn section of Snarky Puppy? I see conflicting reports.

Date: Sat, March 04, 2017, 12:18:07 ET
Posted by: McDaniel, West Palm Beach FL

Michael McDonald jams with Snarky Puppy tonight at the Okeechobee PoWow Superjam. You know it's gonna be good.

Date: Fri, March 03, 2017, 12:06:58 ET
Posted by: Chet, B

I once went to Kennett Square and only remember it because the sign said "Welcome to Kennett Square, the mushroom capital of the world." I really perked up knowing I was in the mushroom capital of the world.

Date: Fri, March 03, 2017, 11:40:10 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

Jon Herington & Jim Beard will be performing together as a duo on June 15 at The Kennett Flash at Kennett Square, PA. They are going to play jazz standards, pop classics and Steely Dan songs of course.

Get tickets here:

Somebody asked if they will play in Seattle on Jon Herington's Facebook page. The response was "they may get out West later on".

Date: Fri, March 03, 2017, 10:31:46 ET
Posted by: Dave (from acquisitions), Philadelphia

WOW just heard Gullywater for the first time. What a strange song. Sounds almost like something from the "you gotta walk it like you talk it" soundtrack. That's wild! has anyone checked out some of the Kenny Vance demos that have been released on youtube? There are a few Becker/Fagen gems in there, a few that I had read about but never heard (Shuffling up your downs).

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 23:29:33 ET
Posted by: Tom, NY


Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 23:26:24 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Sorry Mike. I can't blame Azoff for doing an entertainment manager/agent's job. The ultimate responsibility for accepting (or rejecting) a gig belongs to the artist. If your manager starts booking too many gigs you think are crappy, you should fire him/her. If the artist rejects too many gigs, the manager/agent might drop them.

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 23:17:58 ET
Posted by: Mike , Jersey

You can put the blame on Irving Azoff who is organizing these festivals with The Eagles & Fleetwood Mac. Read the news article at It mentions Azoff may get Steely Dan and Sting to appear at these shows.

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 23:12:34 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, A little bit red-faced, but just a bit.

IMPORTANT UPDATE! The Lovely Mrs. M/O/D/P, who rarely (and I mean rarely) bothers with such trivial matters as my silly occasional BlooBook offerings, overheard the laughter of one of tonight's special guests at the Emmo Deepea Estate, and said to me - and I quote - "Vince Gill is a big country music star! You didn't know that?" No, no, I didn't. But I do now. Apparently "Vince Gill" is a "famous Big Country Music Star". He's one of those guys with the hat and the jeans and probably (although I'm not sure) a guitar of some sort, I guess. Silly me for not, y'know, knowing that New Country Factoid.

Looks like I was way off on the "Nigerian Prince" thing, but the pornography connection? No further comment. I'll leave that up to the savvy Bluebook music connoisseurs to decide...

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 22:11:50 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Henley's always been about the Benjamins. He fired Don Felder because he dared complain that the band didn't split concert revenues 5 ways. Henley and Frey received the lion's share of proceeds.

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 21:57:32 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

It should be Krantz.

I think the answer for #17 is incorrect.

"He Answered An Ad In A Newspaper."

Donald and Walter answered an ad from Denny Dias for a piano and bass player. "No hangups," it said. Soon they took over the band, Denny followed them to LA and became the core of the original Steely Dan band. "No fart jokes."

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 21:55:32 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Sore Like An Eagle

Quote: "Who wants to see The Eagles with Vince Gill?"

Not yours truly, that's for sure. First off, I hate the fucking Eagles. Second, I don't actually know who Vince Gill [sic] is - I wouldn't know him if I hit him with my car. And I'm way too smart to enter his name into a search engine. Just imagine my embarrassment if it turns out that he's a "famous" pornography star, or a Nigerian Prince who desperately needs my immediate assistance? What then, smart guy? Regardless, his presence would neither enhance nor degrade the thoroughly unpleasant experience of seeing The Eagles in a live setting, for me anyways. So, count me out, if you're counting.

In all fairness, though, if a person is so indiscriminate that he/she actually enjoys The Eagles, then who the hell am I to tell them not to go see the band, again & again, no matter who it is that's taking up valuable space on the stage? People still flock to see Mike Love pretending to be The Beach Boys, as he performs every summer with some guys he found somewhere. Nobody stopped going to the third, or eighth, or twenty-second The Who Farewell Tour, even after a full 50% of the band's membership had already received their official death certificates. As we speak, British Art Rock band Yes is still - just barely, mind you - a going concern with no original members, two "classic lineup" members (including one very tired, decrepit drummer), and three exceptionally shitty spare parts. And so on.

Cue the music - "...And nobody cares..."

Back in the days when many of us routinely endured those gawdawful "break-up" interviews with whatever Silly Rock Band members - the ones where interviewees laughably cited--ahem--musical differences as the reason for the break-up - we were told that it was "all about the music". Looking back, I think it's safe to say that probably wasn't true in most cases. In today's cynical world of plug 'n' play replacement members, it can't possibly be true, ever, in any case.

In other words, what we're left with is, "We're Only In It For The Money!".

Thanks, Frank. I owe you another nickel.

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 19:12:26 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

Made a mistake there. It's who wants to see the The Eagles with Vince Gill?

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 19:07:01 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

I wonder if Steely Dan will be added to the bill at these Classic East & Classic West bicoastal rock festivals with The Eagles & Fleetwood Mac. But who wants to The Eagles with Vince Gill? I sure don't.

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 18:31:03 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

If the Eagles had to go out on tour, Jackson Browne subbing
for Glenn Frey would be their best bet for authenticity, but Vince
Gill would do well I'm sure.

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 17:45:32 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

Last year Don Henley said The Eagles were done: "I don't see how we could go out and play without the guy who started the band. It would just seem like greed or something. It would seem like a desperate thing".

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 17:14:09 ET
Posted by: Mike , Jersey

The Eagles will do anything for money. Pollstar is now reporting that The Eagles and Fleetwood Mac will play together on the East & West Coast. The problem is who will replace Glenn Frey? Pollstar states it will most likely be Country star Vince Gill.

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 14:59:48 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

These Greenwich Town Party concerts always sell out within minutes because there are only a limited number of tickets available. James Taylor was the headliner in 2013 and it sold out within 5 minutes. Surprise music guests sometimes show up. Dave Matthews popped up unexpectedly to perform in 2012. Larry Carlton will be in Germany on May 20 so I doubt if he will appear. Who knows? You might see Michael McDonald, Denny Dias or even Jeff Skunk Baxter there.

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 13:25:29 ET
Posted by: Gil, PA

And then Kzkzkz learned how to scroll down.

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 13:15:27 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, NYC

CT deets-

** GREENWICH — Greenwich residents will be “Reelin’ In The Years” when Rock & Roll Hall of Famers Steely Dan headline the annual Greenwich Town Party on May 27.

The jazz-rock fusion kings will be joined at the all-day music festival by Grammy Award winners Alabama Shakes, the Preservation Hall Jazz Band from New Orleans and Carolyn Wonderland, a blues rocker known for her energetic stage shows. The party is set to begin at 10 a.m. and last until 10 p.m. at Roger Sherman Baldwin Park. **

** Tickets will go on sale to those who live or work in Greenwich on March 7 at 10 a.m. The general admision “community tickets” will cost $85 each and provide entrance to the music festival and family activities. Tickets will be available at

In order to get tickets, one needs to be a Greenwich resident, a Greenwich business owner or an employee of a Greenwich business. The tickets, which will be available on a first-come, first-served basis, have sold out quickly in previous years. The only way to buy them is online. They will not be sold at Town Hall.

While the general admission tickets won’t be on sale until next week, “neighbor tickets” and sponsor packages have been on sale since December. The sponsor packages start at $1,250 and provide access to the party’s sponsor tent with catered food and a full bar throughout the day. Neighbor tickets cost $300 each and will allow holders access to the Houlihan Lawrence Neighborbood Area, which will have complimentary food from Citarella and wine and beer.

Block Party Ticket Sets also are on sale. The sets of six community tickets, for $125 a ticket, are a chance to buy early and ensure admission. **

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 12:34:55 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

The Carolyn Leonhart quintet will be playing at the Smoke jazz supper club in New York next week on March 9. Carolyn will be joined by Helen Sung. She's an outstanding young jazz pianist. Three sets starting at 7:00pm. Go! This is gonna be a good one.

Date: Thurs, March 02, 2017, 00:15:04 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Chris said: "hell of a gig to fill in for". You know that, Chris. IMO, one of the hottest seats in the biz. Maybe a little less so, as it looks to be a one-off for a private affair---but still.

That's why I think Krantz, Zingg, Wadenius---and those who have played with them before, could be good bets. Especially if they are located in the general area and free for the gig.

And, I wouldn't count out Herington. I'm guessing he has an understanding if there is a SD gig, Peyroux gets a replacement. But for one, night, across the ocean? That does seem fairly far-fetched.

I kinda like the idea of them giving some up-and-comer, who they've heard and like, a shot for one night, private gig. I know, completely ridiculous.

Whatever happens, I am again with Chris. I'd love to hear the recording.

Date: Wed, March 01, 2017, 22:28:33 ET
Posted by: Chris , Nh

Jeez, that's a hell of a gig to fill in for, even with the capable crew SD has worked with in the past. Jon's role has expanded a lot over the last few years as WB's has demimished.

I love Krantz with SD though. If that's what happens, I hope there's a tape.

Date: Wed, March 01, 2017, 19:25:18 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour! Another Round.

While I doubt it will happen, it would be great to see Larry Carlton step in, but that isn't likely to happen. Drew Zingg would be great, too--though I for some reason, I'm not sure they are on great terms--just a hunch. I like Krantz, and he'd be fine. I just don't find his playing very Steely Danesque all the time. Hey, if the money's right maybe Jon flies back for the show and Madeleine gets a sub for a few nights.

Date: Wed, March 01, 2017, 19:15:33 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

Yeah. I think they will try to get Wayne Krantz for the May 27 Greenwich gig.

Date: Wed, March 01, 2017, 19:03:49 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

What a terrible name for the quiz---typical Facebook bullshit, I guess. With that said, I find at least two questions with problems:

#17: How did Denny Dias become a guitarist for Steely Dan?
The correct answer is not listed

#33: In a Steely Dan song, who gets run down by men in business suits?
While the "correct answer" is there, the song in question is not a Steely Dan song. So the question is wrong.

There were a couple I did not know. Guessed right on one, wrong on one. Also hit a couple wrong answers while taking the test, but I just mis-clicked.

Anyway, I was never told "What singer" I was. So disappointed. Not sure how I'll move on.

Date: Wed, March 01, 2017, 19:02:58 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

No Herington so, what, Krantz? I like Krantz, but was just thinking today about his stylized set of noodling (at least how it was in 2005, recording 'Morph') trends a little closer toward Walter than it does Herington's (fantastic) catch-all approach.

I'd like to see them give a new name a chance, but I doubt it. The same goes for Fagen's various solo guitar spot choices on his last two solo albums, which I wish would have been filled in by Walter Becker.

Date: Wed, March 01, 2017, 16:13:08 ET
Posted by: SD Quiz, TX

I got 36 of 37 right, missing one about DF and his college plans.

Date: Wed, March 01, 2017, 15:32:46 ET
Posted by: Griff, wherever I need to be.

It's a private gig. No reason for it to be there if tickets aren't available to the general public.

Date: Wed, March 01, 2017, 14:26:36 ET
Posted by: Billy Sunshine, Ithaca NY

Steely Dan's official website is useless. It doesn't even mention the Greenwich Town Party concert on May 27.

Date: Wed, March 01, 2017, 13:59:34 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Assumed there is a summer tour, it appears it starts later this year and might finish with the Beacon run, instead of having several weeks between the 2nd leg and 3rd leg.
I hope that's the plan anyways.

Date: Wed, March 01, 2017, 13:19:46 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

Jon Herington won't be playing with Steely Dan at the Greenwich gig. He has tour dates with Madeleine Peyroux in Europe for the entire month of May.

Date: Wed, March 01, 2017, 12:45:00 ET
Posted by: Mike, Jersey

Steely Dan will headline the Greenwich Town Party on May 27 at Roger Sherman Baldwin Park in Greenwich, CT. General admission tickets are $85 and you MUST be a Greenwich resident, business owner or employee in order to purchase a ticket.

Date: Wed, March 01, 2017, 04:07:00 ET
Posted by: Mike, up late in Jersey

Hey Dean. Here's a video of Jack Jones and actress Susan George singing together. It's a camp classic:

Jack Jones & Susan George had a 4 year relationship together. Jack was a real ladies man.

Date: Wed, March 01, 2017, 00:47:40 ET
Posted by: Robert, Staten Island NY

Jack Jones makes easy listening muzak. He's like Lee Greenwood, Wayne Newton, Tony Orlando, Pat Boone, Engelbert Humperdinck, etc. Music for the Lawrence Welk & Mantovani crowd. Those overblown syrupy string arrangements on Jack Jones recordings make me sick.

Date: Tues, February 28, 2017, 23:25:11 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

For the record, I can't find anything to suggest Fagen said Jones was one of his "favorite singers". I do find a quote where Fagen mentioned Jack Jones among a list of singers he "liked".

"Randy Newman seemed like an even worse singer than me. I liked Ray Charles, Levi Stubbs, Jack Jones, Joe Tex, Wilson Pickett."

But I only find this quote on websites devoted to well, quotes. I didn't find the original source.

With that said, I can understand why Don might like Jack's style. I can't say Jones does much for me, but he does have a very casual (Dean Martin-esque) delivery and his phrasing is pretty good.

Date: Tues, February 28, 2017, 22:24:02 ET
Posted by: George K., planet earth

I just heard Jack Jones sing The Love Boat with the lame disco beat. It's shit. Worthless junk. Just like the TV show.

Date: Tues, February 28, 2017, 20:22:50 ET
Posted by: Cruise Director Julie McCoy, The Love Boat

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Date: Tues, February 28, 2017, 19:52:54 ET
Posted by: Cliff, CO

Jack Jones? He's the guy who sang the theme song of that awful TV series "The Love Boat" in the late '70s. Oh God, how I hated The Love Boat. Remorseless stupidity.

Date: Tues, February 28, 2017, 19:37:42 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

you forgot their favorite cereal is Apple jacks® and favorite color is purple!

Date: Tues, February 28, 2017, 19:27:20 ET
Posted by: DJF,

DF has said Jack Jones is one of his favorite singers.

Date: Tues, February 28, 2017, 18:54:13 ET
Posted by: Bangle Boy, cooking french fries

Here's two things that Donald Fagen and The Bangles have in common:

1. Donald and Susanna Hoffs & Vicki Peterson of The Bangles are all Capricorns born in January. Vicki was born on January 11 and Donald was born on January 10. They have close birthdays.

2. Donald Fagen and Susanna Hoffs are both Jewish.


Date: Tues, February 28, 2017, 18:33:36 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Big Trev, that's a nice clean upload of Gullywater. And, while I'm not the biggest devotee of CBAT outtakes (or pre-CBAT material), Gullywater has grown on me over the years. But, unlike the bulk of Dan material, it is clearly "of a time period", IMO. In fact, it reminds me (at least on a superficial level) of this song. This was released in 1971--so the two songs were probably recorded right around the same time:

Other than me pointing out the slight similarity, I don't think there is a whole lot here that is Dangential. So I wouldn't expect Atomic Rooster to be discussed very much, from here on.

Date: Tues, February 28, 2017, 16:14:57 ET
Posted by: Big Trev, Barcelona

This just up on youtube courtesy of Stan Deely who is a TOP MAN!
The real Gully Water which I've heard about but never heard. Get it while it's hot.

Date: Tues, February 28, 2017, 12:50:32 ET
Posted by: Jock, Chattanooga, TN

Keith Carlock will be playing with The Bottom 40 at The Whiskey Room in Franklin, TN tonight. Arrive early as this little place fills up quickly. Best drink in the house is the Jack Daniel's Sinatra.

Date: Tues, February 28, 2017, 09:31:20 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

that's correct Bernie always uses 'girl-groups' before he speaks.

Date: Tues, February 28, 2017, 02:54:16 ET
Posted by: Horton, Boston

Steely Dan is in good company. The Grateful Dead, The Eagles, Tom Petty and The Steve Miller Band are the other bands Bernie Sanders is using before he speaks. All of these bands support the Democratic Party.

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 23:59:36 ET
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Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 21:34:16 ET
Posted by: Left Wing Lenny, channel surfing

I just read Bernie Sanders is now using Steely Dan songs at his public revolution speeches. Donald & Walt "feel the bern".

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 19:33:03 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

It's always nice to see a respected, longtime poster like "Neil" (from Washington), weigh in.

Oh, wait...

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 19:11:37 ET
Posted by: Anonymous Steely Dan Fan, On A Steely Dan Message Board

Here's a quote - "...when you dismiss them all as "girl" groups it leaves you prone to accusations."

Baseless accusations. You forgot the "baseless" part, KD.

It's good that you posted all that, KD, because then we got to see you get your head, your hat, and your pants handed to you. The icing on the cake, and the crushing blow, was delivered by a surprisingly literate ham sandwich.

I'd offer you an icepack, but I'm sure you're too proud to accept it.

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 19:00:59 ET
Posted by: Abu, Anon on The Tube

If we were to launch an official Senate Committee or something similar, I am sure we would find that a certain poster, recently referred to here quite recently, does in fact frequently post negative and derogatory comments on YouTube. This is an all-too-common thing, as that type of person feels totally free to disparage, insult, curse out, and otherwise rip up other folks who post their opinion there, or even the person who uploaded the vid. The reasoning behind this type of conduct is actually quite simple to figure out. There, one can be completely anonymous. Thus, fingers type anything that the brain can spew out, seemingly without any fear of retribution. Perhaps the poster here figures, if I never meet anyone here on the Blue, then they'll never really know who I am. Same YouTube mentality, IMHO.

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 18:35:55 ET
Posted by: Neil, Washington

Hey now! This is really great. It's good to The Bangles finally getting some discussion here on the Bluebook. I still love the band even though my favorite member bassist Michael Steele left in 2005. She wrote and sang on the band's most intricate songs. Her song "Following" is the best song The Bangles ever recorded in my opinion. Most critics compare it to Rickie Lee Jones. I was thinking about going on a rant on The Dean & Gino F. but I think I'll just ignore them.

Thank you, Doc Mu!

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 15:27:33 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Unnecessary Indignance & Tiresome Moral Superiority Dept.

It must be exhausting for those people who spend their days actively looking for things to be offended over. And then finding them on a Steely Dan message board. In the context of a discussion about musical styles and musical preferences.

It must be a miserable, dire, humorless existence as well.

Just an observation.

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 15:00:43 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

To salve the Beasts with names:

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 13:58:45 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

A. If we want to go Full Snob, only URLs of great jazz artists allowed:

Here - these guys actually had an influence on SD compositions and part of the production

B. I'm shocked that millennials are rarely seen at SD concerts

C. Lumping the Bangles with the Spice Girls is musically stupid. They share 2 attributes: the are female and they have 4 members.

One group uses producers with computers to massage voice, put in fake instruments, pay for hire songwriters for all compositions - vocals over Milli Vanilli vs. a group that plays their instruments and well, uses harmonies with elements of Beach Boys and Four Freshman (large influence on DF). Mostly it's power pop played well...with dry recording styles that use an approach similar to SD.

D. Misogyny - well, yeah it's SD. Don't make me go H-Gang.

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 13:37:38 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

KD, I believe Gino put One Direction in the for the very reason I thought: He think's it's crap music. My point was, had he simply added "boy bands" to the list, would you still have a complaint? He obviously finds boy bands offensive, too.

Now, the terms "Girl Group", "Girl Band" and "Boy Band", may be outdated---but they are in regular everyday use. Obviously many of the people who use the terms are not misogynists or misandrists. Most members of these groups were teens, or very young adults, when getting started. That they still perform fluff and act "girlish", or "boyish" in their acts, might help to perpetuate the label, as they age. If the band transforms, and matures in their MUSIC, then the dropping of the label might be in order.

Words do matter, and keeping in mind how some terms might add to racism/sexism/general bigotry and xenophobia, is something we all should do. Labeling someone we barely know as a bigot, based on casual limited use of one of these terms (especially when the context shows otherwise), is something we all should avoid, IMO.

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 13:30:39 ET
Posted by: EC, NY

FWIW, Gino, I didn't get even the slightest hint of misogyny from your initial short post. I'd be willing to bet that only one contributor here did. It's his thing. He's sensitive to such things I guess. Or he just infers a whole hell of a lot about a complete stranger based on musical taste or mildly insulting phrases like "novelty girl group".

Don't sweat the guy, and don't take him too seriously. No one else here does.

@Ham Sandwich - I feel your pain, dude.

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 13:05:39 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Dean, as noted, he put One Direction in there for another purpose, and if you can't see right through that then you're being daft.

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 13:04:48 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Hey, boys?

How's about we don't call grown women "girls," OK?

You know what you look like when you do that, right?

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 12:41:06 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Wow. While I was typing Gino posted a fantastic response. Very well stated, Gino.

And a nice touch from a ham sandwich!

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 12:37:34 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

So we've reached the point of absurdity (again) when the argument for posting discussions of obviously non-Dangential groups, boils down to something like: "They all use notes, chords, letters and words--even the same ones. Ergo all musical groups are Dangential." And that argument is delivered with the "I like it, so fuck you all" attitude. Nice.

Gino obviously wasn't making a sexist post, IMO. As KD noted, he included a boy band in the list, so that explains his initial intent, I think. Gino didn't create the "girl group" label for these bands. That had been established long ago. And these groups played to that image---embraced it, at least for marketing purposes. Gino didn't say ALL bands featuring women were "novelty girl groups"---he didn't even imply it. He said these particular bands were "novelty girl groups"---and he's right. Had he simply included "boy band" in the offending sentence, everything would be cool, right? I think his post is even funnier, and snarkier, since he includes One Direction among those groups, and doesn't specifically use the term "boy band". But it's clear from the context what he's getting at. Let's not be so obtuse we say "How lovely. All of nature is beautiful" when we step in a pile of shit while walking in our dress shoes. It's OK to call shit "shit", especially when some asshole left it on the street (or our lawn).

If I was going to add anything to Gino's excellent post, I'd say "any band formed mainly around an image and/or primarily for marketing purposes." Here's a good rule-of-thumb for those obviously confused about a groups Dangential nature: If their stage act and/or music videos, include a lot of dancing, costumes or calculated outfits and is manufactured/designed to connect to a specific demographic, then the artist probably isn't Dangential. Yes, that's very general, and it definately could use a few more
variables, but it's a start. Just trying to help out the musically confused.

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 12:32:55 ET
Posted by: A ham sandwich, OUTRAGED!

Gino F., your insensitive remarks about ham sandwiches are insensitive! On behalf of all other ham sandwiches, I am deeply offended. No, wait, I'm devastated.

You'd better "reconsider", you sandwichogynist.

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 12:09:19 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Not sensitive, just tired

As usual with you, KD, you make a whole lot of assumptions. You know where that so often leads, I'm sure, and predictably, it led there again.

I said "silly novelty girl group act", and I ran off a few names of entertainment properties that fit that description for me. I stand by that list, and my comment as well. I happen not to like that sort of music. See? "Music". I don't like to listen to it. I don't like to hear it. The fact that it's made (and often mimed to) by cotton candy/manufactured-image-first female entertainers is a factor that helps to discredit the stuff for me, but it's a secondary factor. It's the music itself - the sounds those performers make (or mime to) - that I can't stand. Am I being clear enough?

The way you take my comments about a style of music I happen to find annoying at best, and turn that into an accusation of full-blown misogyny is symptomatic of today's hypersensitive offended-at-the-drop-of-a-hat culture. We see it everywhere now. The kids call it "virtue signalling", I hear. Find something that isn't there and "out" the person who wrote it or said it so you can appear to be the champion of all that's good and right. You have absolutely no idea of who I am (I'm nothing more or less than a stranger on the internet, by the way), yet you presume to judge me publicly as a man who despises women - that's what you did when you called me a "misogynist", KD - based on my comment dismissing a specific style of music entertainment product.

Had I known in advance that you, KD, would have judged my character based on a handful of light-hearted (but intentional) words about lightweight girl groups, I might have taken pains to qualify my opinions with a disclaimer about how much I love the music of Carol King, Joni, Astrud Gilberto, Billie Holliday, Janis Joplin, Aretha, Etta James, Linda Ronstadt, Dionne Warwick - dammit, the list just goes on forever.

But I didn't. Because I didn't think I had to.

I find it sad that, in 2017, it has become an accepted tactic in public discourse to toss around serious accusations about a person's character, his or her very essence if you will, at the slightest whim or perceived provocation. The problem with seeing hate and misogyny and all that other really bad stuff everywhere - every word, every phrase, every thought, every joke ("don't get me started"), every ham sandwich, every weather event, every paint color - is that this actually serves to dilute or dissipate or somehow lessen the real thing, the genuine evils that continue to plague our world.

So, KD, I won't "reconsider" as you request. In fact, I'll state clearly here that I cannot stomach the music or image or politics of, say, "Beyonce", and I can't even be in the same room while music by the band "Queen" is being played. Now it must be clear to you (and presumably you only) that I am also "racist" and "homophobic", in addition to being, as you say, "misogynistic". Looks like I just hit the trifecta, doesn't it?

Date: Mon, February 27, 2017, 10:45:18 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

It's not so much "snob" as it is "misogynist," Gino. It's one thing to dismiss them as pop groups, we all saw your clever attempt at misspelling names and tossing in the name of a male group in there, but when you dismiss them all as "girl" groups it leaves you prone to accusations.

If you're not that way in real life, awesome, but that's what you present to readers on here by dismissing disparate bands as "girl" groups, speaking solely of their gender and little else.

I won't even get into the idea that these groups are a "novelty" to you, based solely on the sex of the members involved.

That doesn't reflect well on you, Gino, and I'd reconsider.

Date: Sun, February 26, 2017, 23:26:38 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Offering another opinion again

I'd happily take a recording of Oliver Nelson breaking wind for 45 minutes over anything - anything - by any silly novelty girl group act. Pick yer girl group act. Bongles, GoGos, Spice Girls, One Direction, whatever...

If that makes me an uninformed music snob in the eyes of some here, I'm OK with that.

Date: Sun, February 26, 2017, 22:39:59 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Shutting the hell up about "Mr. Pink Floyd", for now anyways

QUOTE: "Worse still [...] there is actually mention that one of these craptastic noise-making units would be a good opener for a Steely Dan concert."

I'm with Mr. Urfe on this one. The Dean - that, sir, is a superb example of proper & appropriate use of the word "craptastic". Thank you.

You'd think nobody could top that, certainly not in the same post, however...

QUOTE: "Then again, some people shit on the neighbor's lawn, and think it's OK."

That was the REAL "mic drop", folks.

Date: Sun, February 26, 2017, 19:42:19 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Thanks for your patience with the spam. I was traveling where it limited my ability to revise the script to resist the spam. Hopefully this will do the trick for a while. I didn't intentionally delete anyone's post as far as I know--let me know if something is gone that you think should be put back up. I can look for it in backups. Thanks for the emails from Dean, John, and the rest.



Date: Sun, February 26, 2017, 16:29:54 ET
Posted by: µ,


drops mic

Date: Sun, February 26, 2017, 16:29:07 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

haha - there aren't a lot of chords but there's a majF#7 chord on Going Down to Liverpool

...and Fagen does have a Spock-like person...

Never challenge me again Dean. Never. ;)

Date: Sun, February 26, 2017, 16:21:02 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Bangles opening for SD???

No - the point is that Fagen/SD carry power pop sensibilities and lean core of the band into their jazz/pop/RnB or funk hybrid...even though they use chord structure nothing like them. In addition, Bangles and SD have a real focus on HARMONIES. Sorry to have to spell it out in Music 101 terms...

It doesn't matter if you can't hear it. I can...and that's what counts ;)

Date: Sun, February 26, 2017, 16:15:10 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Yeah, we get it Dean. Dan centric is whatever you say it is.

Hell, I WISH D&W would record something like Oliver Nelson. Fagen's been more R&B since the 1980s writer's block. Sunken condos offered some hope...but tick tock.

Date: Sun, February 26, 2017, 16:09:59 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Josh - Yeah, I know... and DGAF. A good bit of of art rock and some of Pink Floyd (esp. The Wall) is noodling or schlock with little reference to jazz or RnB. UK, some of Yes, 10CC - great stuff.

Very Nice sweet and sour approach (21st Century Dan centric) approach to Fagen's New Frontier by Randy Breaker et al (Adam Ragers, Kenny Warner, John Patitucci, Brecker's daughter Amanda). Props to Nate Smith on drums.

Here's an RnB jazz-influenced band from the 70s, Sad Cafe...had a big hit (Everyday Hurts) in England in the lite rock mode.

I like the other stuff that focus on musicianship and harmonies:

Vic Emerson - keyboard wiz and Ashley Mulford a spectacular axeman...with the "good" Paul Young (RIP) on vocals. Compared back in the day to a Manchester version of Steely Dan as hybrid/chameleon artists, although not the same sound

Date: Sun, February 26, 2017, 15:54:21 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Josh, I'm not sure where you got the idea I have an AOR bias. Perhaps you haven't been around long enough to get a real feel for my tastes. I actually think most AOR is crap---as I think the bulk of the output in every musical genre is crap. But this isn't about what I like, or don't like. I'd like to think it's about keeping things on this forum Steely Dan-centric. Or, at least Steely Dan-gential--as Hoops has repeatedly requested.

The idea of the Bangles opening for SD is so patently absurd, it hardly merits discussion (yet, there I go again). I have no idea why anyone might think the comparison between them and the Gogos is appropriate for this forum. I'd say the same thing about a discussion centered around which band sucks the hardest: Foreigner or Boston? Journey vs Styx vs Kansas? But even if the bands discussed were those I liked, if they weren't SD-gential, in some way, I'd say they don't belong in any extended discussion, here.

I believe most of this nonsense is promoted by a few posters (or perhaps only one), who change usernames all the time, just to fuck with the community. There are also a few regulars who simply ignore the Dan-centric nature of the forum, or who have a very strange interpretation as to what that is. (I'm being kind, here.)

How about some Dangential music?

Date: Sun, February 26, 2017, 11:46:29 ET
Posted by: Josh, TX


Date: Sun, February 26, 2017, 11:46:00 ET
Posted by: Josh, TX

Not necessarily talking about the Bangles and Go Go-s here, but Dean clearly has a strong AOR bias and cannot find merit in pop music even when it's there because he has narrow ideas of how "credible" music should be presented.

RIP Bill Paxton. Remember someone at a Danfest talking about an encounter with him, but too drink to remember details.

Date: Sun, February 26, 2017, 11:33:22 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

The Dean is a little cranky this morning, but we don't really mind because he reminds us of what a funny word "craptastic" is. I hope to use it to good effect some time this week.

Date: Sun, February 26, 2017, 11:04:41 ET
Posted by: The Dean, s

Wilbur, the Bangles vs GoGos discussion is actually harder to take than the rest of the spam, on this board. Worse still is, some have such a lack of taste, there is actually mention that one of these craptastic noise-making units would be a good opener for a Steely Dan concert.

These must be the kind of people who play a bar jukebox, with no consideration given to the clientele and atmosphere of the establishment. Then again, some people shit on the neighbor's lawn, and think it's OK.

Date: Sun, February 26, 2017, 10:13:55 ET
Posted by: Wilbur, C

That's a lot of spam to sift through to read about the Bangles.

Date: Sat, February 25, 2017, 19:23:51 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Susannah Hoffs could have had a career in movies if
she had wanted to. You're right...she's ageless.

Date: Sat, February 25, 2017, 17:15:57 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Ross: Vicki and Debbi are really the heart of the band. Susanna's stardom was a little unexpected. The sisters are attractive and well-rounded - not surprised by your anecdote..

That band has dealt with the vagaries of fame well. Their first album was an underground sensation like Blondie, before becoming MTV famous with Prince's Manic Monday.

Date: Sat, February 25, 2017,  ET
Posted by: Ross, Los Angeles

Doc...Have you noticed Susanna Hoffs never seems to age? She looks exactly the same as she did in the '80's. Maybe it's because she's a vegetarian. The other two Bangles Vicki & Debbi Peterson still look young too. Vicki & Debbi are very friendly with the fans and always willing to sign autographs. Susanna is very shy and reserved. They play a lot of shows down here in Los Angeles.

Date: Sat, February 25, 2017, 15:41:26 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Hoffs is no more important than the rest of the band. Musicianship. The groove is righteous and harmonies shimmering on this song from their first album. No crappy 80s plastic production. No need for the Wrecking Crew...favorably compared as a unit to Rockpile - Rock solid RnR, RnB, 60s pop - power pop.

Kids - this is how you do it.

Years later, their version of E.C's Doll Revolution is fantastic...S&G's Hazy Shade of Winter, too.

Really wish Costello and SD had done a couple of Bacharach tunes together -maybe 1 from painted from Memory

Date: Sat, February 25, 2017, 13:22:08 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Sandy: The SNL debut debacle if all you need to know about the Go Gos.

Date: Sat, February 25, 2017, 12:17:25 ET
Posted by: Sandy , Long Beach CA

Doc Mu is wrong about The Go-Go's. I've seen them countless times and they all play their instruments very well. Besides, The Go-Go's are mainly a "get up and dance" party band so nobody really cares about musicianship ability.

The Go-Go's retired last year but The Bangles are still going strong. They would make a good opening act for Steely Dan this Summer.

Date: Sat, February 25, 2017, 00:53:32 ET
Posted by: Abu, Hollywood Bowl?

This is what I was looking for last year at the Hollywood Bowl.

(Tongue planted firmly in the cheek)

Date: Sat, February 25, 2017, 00:28:25 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Forget that - we need some power pop groups to tour again. Full throttle on the 60s Blues Beach semi-psychedelic theme

Bangles could actually play their instruments (unlike the Go Gos)

The Records

Former member Jude Cole

Date: Fri, February 24, 2017, 22:42:26 ET
Posted by: Abu, He's Good

Yeah, Pink Floyd, he's good, blah, blah, blah. Gilmore, Waters. Enough already.

Date: Fri, February 24, 2017, 20:25:32 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Listening to Meddle, right now

"Waters can also shove his toxic Anti Semitic / Socialist tirades and actions up his ass."

Thank you, Lutz. I wasn't gonna put it that bluntly, but I'm glad somebody did. I doubt ol' Rog will follow those instructions, even though he should.

I don't want to turn this into a Pink Floyd discussion - although that might be infinitely more interesting than any of the recent generic schlock rock act discussions here - but that band worked very well indeed when Mr. Waters and Mr. Gilmour & company did what they both did best AND also managed to work together, somehow. Just as the post-Waters 1987-1993 reconstipated Floyd was embarrassingly ill-considered - especially the ridiculous attempts at counterfeiting "new material" for enthusiastic consumption by gullible/loyal fans - so are Mr. Waters' post-Floyd sojourns into international politics. I personally find his current noisy rhetoric to be objectionable, and for a reasonably intelligent guy, pretty damn facile.

Recently, someone offered me a pair of primo tickets to one of Waters' upcoming 2017 Toronto concerts. I turned them down. I've already been yelled at and lectured and berated by people I hold in much higher esteem. I sure as hell don't need two and a half hours of that kind of abuse, under the guise of "entertainment", from some bigoted 73 year old Rock Star whose best days are now officially at least two and a half decades in the rear-view mirror...

Date: Fri, February 24, 2017, 19:29:59 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Somewhat incredulous

QUOTE: "hold on there pilgrim, are you drawing parallels between fagen and waters, c'mon."

Nobody has done that here. I know, because I checked. One poster contrasted the two, and much to the detriment of Mr. Waters.

If you aren't able to perceive the difference, that's fine, but there's no need to embarrass yourself by being willfully obtuse.

Date: Fri, February 24, 2017, 19:04:05 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

hold on there pilgrim, are you drawing parallels between fagen and waters, c'mon.

Date: Fri, February 24, 2017, 17:06:31 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

David Gilmore was the front man and face of Pink FLoyd.
Waters was involved in writing some good songs and sings here and there.
If someone else played bass, most fans wouldn't miss much.
No so with Gilmore, both his guitar and vocals are what makes people recognize PF. Rick Wright would be missed more than Waters as well.
Waters can also shove his toxic Anti Semitic / Socialist tirades and actions up his ass.
I would never spend a dime now on this jerk.
Howard Stern called him out as the bigot that he is.
Pig balloons with the Star of David at a concert? No thanks, Roger, fuck you.

Date: Fri, February 24, 2017, 16:52:26 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Correct. The recording studio for D&W is much safer every other year. I'll bring the honey mustard.

Date: Tues, February 21, 2017, 20:40:19 ET
Posted by: Razor Boy, Depressed

I think Al Jarreau and now Larry Coryell died from being on the road too long. Both of these artists were always playing gigs every year.

Date: Fri, February 24, 2017, 14:11:33 ET
Posted by: Glen, San Francisco CA

Roger Waters was the one who always wanted to do a big nostalgic Pink Floyd reunion tour for big money. David Gilmour wanted no part of it so the tour never materialized. There's always been friction between Roger Waters and David Gilmour.

Date: Fri, February 24, 2017, 13:23:39 ET
Posted by: Cooper, NY

In fact, it's been exactly a quarter century, 1992, since Waters' last album which he considers every bit the masterpiece that Dark Side of The Moon and The Wall are. Its poor reception really hit him hard. Must have been the Don Henley duet? I blame it on the CD format and he had to stretch the songs out too much to fill time.

Date: Fri, February 24, 2017, 13:19:29 ET
Posted by: Brain Strainer,

@Charles of Connecticut

As I said earlier there are at least 3 pre-CBAT songs that contain elements of mostly the verse/vocal sonics contained in Tomorrow's Girls. I will go with "Ida Lee" as the best fit.

Date: Fri, February 24, 2017, 12:55:17 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Impartial Observer Dept.

The funny part of it is that Roger Waters is a rabid, frothing-at-the-mouth socialist who absolutely despises Trump. Yet the obvious similarities between the two, as The Dean points out, are there for all to see.

Waters' overuse of Trump's image at last year's huge outdoor show in Mexico City was so wildly over the top - like bludgeoning a mosquito with a ten thousand ton granite boulder - that it made RW look like a borderline obsessed mental case. We get it, Rog. You don't like the guy. Lots of people don't like him, but they don't bust a vein in their foreheads every time his name is mentioned. And the pandering to the largely partisan audience's fears & festering hatred is palpable in the YouTube video of the show. Clearly, Mr. Waters is every bit as narcissistic and egotistical and self-involved as he and the rest of the anti-Trump people believe The Donald is, perhaps worse.

I mean, "It'll be spectacular like all my shows have been" positively drips with bloated egomania. The statement itself may even be true - I've seen my fair share of "spectacular" Roger Waters performances, starting in 1984 - but when quoted as self promotion it's just plain embarrassing.

Contrast Waters' bombastic, shrill hectoring on the subject of the 45th President to the more subtle approach of say, Donald Fagen. It's pretty clear that DF is no fan of Trump, but if asked he is able to make his point succinctly, and mostly without insulting (potentially) half of his audience by going on and on and on about it.

The point is, the scream-filled lecturing wears thin after a while, and I think for the most part that musicians afflicted with delusions of grandeur should probably just stick to creating music - something Roger Waters hasn't done for nearly a quarter century now.

Date: Fri, February 24, 2017, 12:37:50 ET
Posted by: Glen, San Francisco CA

Roger Waters is always like that. He loves overhyping his shows to draw in big crowds. I've seen him several times and he loves it when fans rush the stage at the end of the show to shake his hand. The man really craves attention.

David Gimour is totally opposite. He's very low-key and avoids audience interaction. I prefer David over Roger Waters.

Date: Fri, February 24, 2017, 12:35:18 ET
Posted by: LOL, Believe it

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Date: Fri, February 24, 2017, 11:39:54 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Is Trump writing Roger Waters' pre-tour publicity hype? Seriously, read this in your inner Trump voice:

"It'll be spectacular like all my shows have been.”

Honestly, I have to believe some of the posts promoting horrible "artists", are tongue-in-cheek. I mean, I HAVE to believe it, for the sake of my sanity. I suppose it's possible the Manilow post was from some marketing dweeb, clueless to the fact there probably isn't a lot of crossover between those reading a SD forum and the audience for a new BM album. But it's far more likely it is one of the regular annons, who love to tweak our community.

And, as usual, M/O/D/P makes a good point. As I was reading it, I was thinking of "Good to Live" from Money House's "Left".

Date: Fri, February 24, 2017, 09:19:38 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Silver Lining Dept.

Look at it this way, Ed from Ohio - if savagely dull-witted material like Journey, Springsteen, Styx, Asia, REO Dickwagon, or the truly vile & reprehensible Bon Jovi (notwithstanding a rousing endorsement here recently from a certain hyper-enthusiastic Bon Jovi Mega-Fan poster), or pasty, predictable saccharine like "Barry Manilow" didn't exist at all, what would we have for context?

See, maybe it's all about context. Maybe sometimes it's the really, really bad that helps to define just how good the really, really good actually is. Think "the bell curve". Without all the ham-fisted, inelegant, meat-headed dreck (see partial list above) on the left side and into the middle of the chart, the excellent - the Gold Standard, if you will, (on the far right side) - might be perceived as merely "good" and nothing more. Maybe. Or maybe I'm stretching here, just a bit - who knows?

Having said all that, I think we could probably use a little less of that "context" here on The Blue, for a while at least. And most definitely less representation from the silly spellcastering aluminumattium crowd as well, no?

Date: Thurs, February 23, 2017, 01:39:32 ET
Posted by: I''ll Be, the judge of that

@Charles of Connecticut

DON'T got no SD FAQ book yet. Holding off until it appears in the schlock bin at some flea market or drug store in about 3 months.

DO have 3 tunes with possibilities for vocals/verse similarity to TG. TG Chorus is very likely non-derivative from any pre-Kamakiriad tunes.....


Date: Wed, February 22, 2017, 11:18:50 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Went on a Becker on bass deep dive last night, listening to a lot of the LP versions of albums he was mostly the bass player on, then switched ahead a few decades to listen to 'Morph' on vinyl without Walter.

Was an interesting switch, you get the feeling that Becker looks over at Freddie Washington sometimes and, while still recognizing Washington's genius, still would like a shot at snarling a bass line of his own on some of these Fagen-type tunes.

Date: Wed, February 22, 2017, 04:29:21 ET
Posted by: Rex, working late at night

Thanks, Charles. I don't feel like buying the book anymore. Might change my mind later though.

Date: Tues, February 21, 2017, 21:08:48 ET
Posted by: Charles, Ct

The new SD FAQ book makes a good "Brain Strainer" type comparison between Fagen's Tomorrow's Girls and an early years demo song. Name that demo. People who already read it can't play!

Also, the author states that Joe Jackson is "apparently" a big SD fan. Apparently?? It's been long confirmed beyond any reasonable doubt.

Date: Tues, February 21, 2017, 20:40:19 ET
Posted by: Razor Boy, Depressed

I think Al Jarreau and now Larry Coryell died from being on the road too long. Both of these artists were always playing gigs every year.

Date: Tues, February 21, 2017, 18:12:34 ET

Coryell was also a Pro Football offensive savant, way ahead of his time.
# dual threat

Date: Tues, February 21, 2017, 17:24:11 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Thanks Clete for that Special Delivery...

Date: Tues, February 21, 2017, 13:06:48 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

RIP Larry Coryell was a great musician

...even though this technically doesn't overlap with SD - Do I need permission Deano?

time for a drink.

Fallon thought thread led to the birth of rock and roll, and the source of the Dan backbeat underneath more jazz figures. NOLA Mardi Gras parade bands - next Tuesday. Anybody who has been to Mardi Gras know that the specific parade I'm really talking about is the Truck Parade. The white folks had their Crewes and their fancy floats. Brothers and sisters had the Truck Parade...a moving festival of music and dance.

Giver her some funked up music...

Date: Tues, February 21, 2017, 12:20:35 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

I own quite a bit of music and continue to acquire new music all the time. Yet, my car CD player is FULL of Steely Dan. Hard to displace the DAN!!

Date: Tues, February 21, 2017, 09:05:43 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

let's make it officially Danesque: Coryell-Cobham-Hammer-Lukather-Porcaro-SD




Date: Tues, February 21, 2017, 07:10:58 ET
Posted by: Clete, NY

Steve Gennarelli, I don't know if Don and Walt were fans of Animal Steele, but he clearly loved SD.

Date: Tues, February 21, 2017, 00:41:28 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

RIP Mr. Coryell. He was planning a 11th house 2017 summer tour. Alphonse Mouzon, his power drummer just died a couple of months ago. Damn, we're losing 'em fast. Randy Brecker played in the band back then.
Larry's other son Murali went on tour with Bill Evans (always a absolute riot live) last year.
About 6 or 7 years ago, my brother picked up a blue passport off the floor at the airport in Warszaw, Poland.
The name was Larry Coryell and he remembered it from his dorky older brother's record collection.
I believe we listened to "Twin House" - a wonderful acoustic collaboration with Philip Catherine and that was around 1978.
Caught up with Larry near one of the gates. He was the most grateful, coolest dude and made his plane.

Date: Mon, February 20, 2017, 23:59:21 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Abu, nice links, thanks. Very apropos for tonight. Both of Larry's sons sound pretty good, to me.

Date: Mon, February 20, 2017, 23:14:42 ET
Posted by: Abu, All in the Family

RIP Larry Coryell. Anyone know if there was a ever a SD connection with him? His two sons are also fine guitarists. Son Julian has done at least two Dan covers: (Deacon Blues) (Home at Last)

The latter has Julian singing as well. Good vocal.

Date: Mon, February 20, 2017, 21:16:15 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Dr Mu, what exactly does Jimmy Fucking Fallon, and friends, recording covers in front of a camera, have to do with Steely Dan making new music?

(The answer is, "Nothing", BTW.)

Date: Mon, February 20, 2017, 21:11:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Wow, Larry Coryell. Another great bites the dust.

I saw Larry in the mid-70's--not that long after the Eleventh House released Level One (a fine album, IMO). My recollection is Larry played solo. Apparently he planned to play some acoustic and some electric. But on one of his first songs on the acoustic guitar, a string broke. He put it down, picked up the electric and never looked back for the rest of the night. A fine show.

RIP Larry.

Date: Mon, February 20, 2017, 17:06:20 ET
Posted by: Yep, Gone

Or his wife-
R.I.P. Larry

Date: Mon, February 20, 2017, 17:00:42 ET
Posted by: Joel, R

Nobody is RIP until their Wikipedia page says so.

Date: Mon, February 20, 2017, 16:05:06 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, NYC

RIP Larry Coryell

Date: Mon, February 20, 2017, 14:10:02 ET

Wait whhhhaaaattt, Iko Iko wasn't a Grateful Dead original? # Hey Now
All kidding aside, good stuff Doc Mu.


Date: Mon, February 20, 2017, 11:53:05 ET
Posted by: Late to, the party

Steve Gennarelli- That Pine Knob show has been on youtube for the past 17 years.


Date: Mon, February 20, 2017, 11:45:33 ET
Posted by: NYB, "Well they weren't nice to me!"

In honor of Walter's birthday I think I'll start referring to Donald Trump as "Charlie X".


Date: Mon, February 20, 2017, 11:31:36 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Happy birthday Walter!

So get in the ***** studio and record something!

Don't need no stinkin' budget.

If you didn't know Lieber and Stoller stole Iko Iko for the Dixie Cups from a NOLA Mardi Gras frontline song Jock-A-Mo by James "Sugar Boy" Crawford and his Cane Cutters ca. 1953, where the Middle 8th launches early Rock and Roll... 2 years before Bill Haley and the Comets.

The backbeat in rock and roll comes from drums in a Mardi Gras Band keeping marching time.

Date: Mon, February 20, 2017, 00:24:11 ET
Posted by: Selfish Gene , Midtown Manhattan

Today is Walter Becker's birthday. Happy Birthday, Walter! See you at the shows!

Date: Sun, February 19, 2017, 18:00:29 ET
Posted by: Hoot Gibson, CA

This is an excerpt from an interview Donald Fagen gave to Rolling Stone back in 2013:

Question: Might you do the two newer albums at some point?

Donald: "Yeah. We do just about everything on Two Against Nature & Everything Must Go . I think one night we sprung just about the whole thing, and we didn't like the audience response. It's so much unfamiliar material for a large part of the audience. We're not as invulnerable to audience response as we'd like to think we are. I think there are some artists that enjoy getting beer cans thrown at their heads".

Question: Bob Dylan clearly doesn't give a shit.

Donald: "Yeah, Bob Dylan. And I've been to Bob Dylan shows where I essentially walked out in the middle. I just didn't like it. Usually there's a good reason why those songs shouldn't be done.

Date: Sun, February 19, 2017, 18:00:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Funny thing about SD not introducing any new "old" songs in their recent shows. I heard two, or three, songs I hadn't heard in concert ever, or in many years, in the two show I saw just this past tour.

But you are right, Steve. This band sounds GREAT, and fresh, whatever they are playing. The problem with judging a live show by reading a set list is, you really have no fucking clue what's going on.

I guess some label SD a "nostalgia" act. I don't. I've seen nostalgia acts live, over the past few years. None even approach the vibrancy of a Steely Dan show. Those I label "nostalgia" acts, tend to favor an attention to image over music. They tend to try to recreate the music, note-for-note, and concentrate on on recapturing a time/place/vibe from the past. That simply isn't what this band does. Then again, a good philharmonic orchestra can play Bach, note-for-note, and nobody calls them a "nostalgia act", do they? When you see McCoy Tyner or Pharoah Sanders, do you worry about their setlist? Are they nostalgia acts if they play the great jazz from the 40's, 50's and 60's? Preposterous.

I guess what I'm saying is, if you've judged the SD concerts by being there, and experiencing them, that's one thing. But judging, or labeling them, simply from reading a setlist is a very stupid thing to do, IMO.

Date: Sun, February 19, 2017, 14:16:34 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

17 years ago though. The major difference
between the shows then and now is that the band no longer
introduces a new "old" song into the set list.
But like I've posted a few times, last year's show
in Tampa proved to me the band is still relevant as the music
is still awesome...stale set list or not.
...and while I'm quibbling...I'd like to see them
get back to the "original" version of songs like "Kid Charlemagne".

Date: Sun, February 19, 2017, 03:40:01 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

A great guy named Stan Deely has posted some
great concert videos over at YouTube including the entire
2000 Pine Knob show !!!
Enjoy, Steve

Date: Sun, February 19, 2017, 00:00:20 ET
Posted by: Row Jimmy, CT/NYC

That could be the version I heard, although the one I heard was pretty close to the Steely Dan version. I guess that has to be it because after you gave me that URL, I could find no other versions with a female singer.

Only a Fool is classic SD in my mind. So loungy.

As far as the other complaints, I find all SD songs great. Some take a little more time to get, but I always eventually say "That is a good song." And some people may not find songs that are my favorites necessarily theirs. It is just taste. (And some people like to be contrarian too.)

There are A LOT of SD songs that just amaze me, I can't get over it sometimes. Those guys were awesome songwriters. Because a few don't get you going shouldn't bother you. Just think of the other 99%.

Date: Sat, February 18, 2017, 23:35:14 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Row Jimmy, you are raising your son right. Congrats.
Was this the version?

Only a Fool (like With a Gun and Charlie Freak) are GREAT songs. Maybe not the traditional SD song, but fantastic in their own way. Too bad for those who don't get it.

Date: Sat, February 18, 2017, 21:02:25 ET
Posted by: Row Jimmy, CT/NYC

Funny story: My 6 year old son and I were at the grocery store tonight and Only a Fool Would Say That came on the music playing. We looked at each other and laughed. We had been listening to it while doing a puzzle earlier in the day. What a coincidence. Eerie in fact. Made me a bit religious to be honest with you. What were the odds that it would be playing when we were there and such an obscure song.

My 6 year old can tell you what songs are on Aja, Royal Scam, Countdown, Two against Nature, Gaucho and in what order. I am not joking. I named him Arlo, so that tells you something. And he plays the drums pretty well for a 6 year old. He knows some of Can't Buy a Thrill and Pretzel as well.

Here is my question: A woman was singing Only a Fool Would Say That. Who was it? Have you heard that version?

Date: Sat, February 18, 2017, 16:56:18 ET
Posted by: hoops, Sunny, warm Chicago

Received my copy of Steely Dan FAQ last Saturday. I read about half a dozen entries, plus Fogel's introduction. Like Sweet's book, a comprehensive launching point for further discussion and the pursuit of more in-depth answers. But by no means the final word.

Date: Sat, February 18, 2017, 16:14:03 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxosq

Gerry, for what it's worth, there's an early version of Charlie Freak on one of the old, unauthorized collections, so I always thought of it as one of their earlier songs. I'll have to see if my recently-arrived Steely Dan FAQ weighs in on the matter when I get home later.

Date: Sat, February 18, 2017, 15:40:11 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Let's be honest. They haven't been consistently "productive" in recording since the 70s...with the 00s as their most "productive" decade since the 70s.

70s: 6 albums (men in their 20s)

80s: 2 albums (30s in rehab)

90s: 2 albums (40s - getting their mojo back)

00s: 4 albums (50s - one last stand) 2000, 2003, 2006, 2008 - as productive as most young artists

10s: 1 album (60s - mad man on a victory lap)

Since Fagen's solo tour, SD has been Reeling in the $ on tour...because it's the only way to make a living today. It is what it is.

Date: Sat, February 18, 2017, 14:59:01 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago

Wonderful album with some great performances including Steely Dan classics redone. Also features JAY Leonhart. If I understand correctly from Pete Fogel, Marian was a subscriber to Metal Leg. For me, the standout track is Hesitation Blues. 15 years since it was recorded; 14 years since it was first broadcast. I have all sorts of unexplained coincidences with Marian McPartland broadcasts and so forth. Probably the most fascinating to me is that I was having dinner at a friend's house across the street from the high school where Marian met Jim McPartland at the moment when she passed away.

Date: Sat, February 18, 2017, 11:38:17 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

All three of those PL songs, though, you wish they'd fully explored that angle later. They're still three brilliant songs, and sort of a last gasp before the full on jazzier stuff hits.

Even Weird Al is doing deep cuts in his tour this year:

Date: Sat, February 18, 2017, 11:31:15 ET
Posted by: Abu, West of Barrytown, but right there

Gerry, I'll take the bait. I beg to differ, but Barrytown and Charlie Freak are excellent. With a Gun, though, is not high on my list either, but still not a bad song. Still better than anything Bon Springsteen can come up with.

Date: Sat, February 18, 2017, 11:18:12 ET
Posted by: Gerry Beldon,

These are, IMO, 3 not-so-good SD songs from PL:

"With a Gun"
"Charlie Freak"

They are, for SD, derivative, unoriginal sounding.

Date: Sat, February 18, 2017, 11:15:44 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

To those taking offense at the "nostalgia act" label, get over it. That's what they are and that's what you're paying money for.

Plenty of these bands have new products. Whether it's the band itself or various members of the act self-releasing things, the music is out there for these various classic rock acts -- look at their individual websites and the new CDs they're shilling on PayPal and the like. Every bass player has a project.

Then it comes time for the tour and show time and the set list and, shock horror, they stand revealed as a nostalgia act. If you don't actually play any of the new music, if you haven't changed the setlist significantly since a tour you did in 2006 (with another nostalgia act), then this is what you're left with.

What would you call a group that, collectively, has put out two albums together along with three solo albums since 1999-00? Not prolific, for one (Sunken Condos came out a half-decade ago, Circus Money nine years ago, EMG 14 years ago).

What happens when that act refuses to play all but one ('Godwhacker,' increasingly dull on stage despite the trading fours) or maybe two ('Two Against Nature?') songs from the last two decades' worth of writing output?

Nostalgia. Call me mildly depressed.

Date: Fri, February 17, 2017, 22:08:22 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

It's never been revealed who Don and Walt's
favorite wrestlers are but I'll take a stab in the dark
and say it may have well been George "the Animal" Steele.
Rest in Peace, Animal

Date: Fri, February 17, 2017, 21:03:03 ET
Posted by: Row Jimmy, CT/NYC

Definitely a deadhead. With a name like that.

My first show was Alpine '89, so I was a bit late to the show. But managed to see 50 shows, on the button. Their last show was my 50th.

Before that, I had a license plate that said ZEP-HED. That Alpine show converted me. (But I still love Zep too, and obviously Steely Dan.)

Date: Fri, February 17, 2017, 19:45:15 ET

Row Jimmy I wish I could help you, alas I can't, but a hearty welcome to the Bluebook, always nice to hear from a fan of the Grateful Dead. (assuming u r)

Date: Fri, February 17, 2017, 18:35:30 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Educated Guess Dept.

I think we all know who "Mr. X" is.

The clever disguise is more transparent than a piece of fresh Glad Wrap.

And the only thing worse than a Bon Jovi cover band would be the real Bon Jovi himself, in person, this coming Sunday night. That's sort of the classic definition of "worse", no?

Date: Fri, February 17, 2017, 17:58:42 ET
Posted by: Row Jimmy, CT/NYC

Mr. X,

You are a douche. Loser.

Date: Fri, February 17, 2017, 17:12:53 ET
Posted by: "Mr. X" , You don't know me, but I'm unable to wait as well

Does anybody here know of a Bon Jovi cover band that might be playing in the St. Louis area every night before this weekend? I can't wait until this Sunday's big concert. Thanks in advance.

Date: Fri, February 17, 2017, 11:12:23 ET
Posted by: Stan, TX


Date: Fri, February 17, 2017, 11:02:42 ET
Posted by: Row Jimmy, Connecticut/NYC

Does anyone know of any Steely Dan cover bands in Connecticut or NYC? It's a long time to wait for the next show.


Date: Fri, February 17, 2017, 10:32:42 ET
Posted by: Been there, done that

SD is a band that has long prided itself on having a no-filler discography. If ever there were a band that should want to mix it up, if not show to show, then at least year to year. But they don't even mix it up decade to decade, so the nostalgia act label is justified.

Date: Fri, February 17, 2017, 01:54:06 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

I hear ya Pete, and would be in complete agreement if the actually played more than one 21st Century Dan/solo song per set.

Circus $, Sunken Condos have some real highlights 40 years after their debut.

Pete Evans, Manchester UK

It's a bit harsh to say Don and Walt have fallen into the "nostalgia act" category.Weve had a combination of five albums of new material from the guys since the millennium. All of which are of very high quality to say the least compared to their 70s peers most of whom really shouldn't have bothered ! The live shows are outstanding.

Date: Fri, February 17, 2017, 00:35:41 ET
Posted by: Ken, Miami

Lutz is right. Rickie Lee Jones' latest album The Other Side of Desire is a good cure for insomnia. Everytime I listen to it I drift off to sleep. It's dull and boring. No major label would release this kind of dreck so Rickie had to create her own label and release it herself. I loved Rickie's early work like the Pirates album but now her voice and songwriting seems to have deteriorated.

Date: Fri, February 17, 2017, 00:12:20 ET
Posted by: Pete Evans, Manchester UK

It's a bit harsh to say Don and Walt have fallen into the "nostalgia act" category.Weve had a combination of five albums of new material from the guys since the millennium. All of which are of very high quality to say the least compared to their 70s peers most of whom really shouldn't have bothered ! The live shows are outstanding.

Date: Thurs, February 16, 2017, 19:52:55 ET

Nich, add Show Biz Kids and For No One to that list as well, both amazing covers! # IMHO

Date: Thurs, February 16, 2017, 19:49:44 ET
Posted by: Hoot Gibson, CA

One thing I don't like about Rickie Lee Jones is she's a Bruce Springsteen fan. Last year she made a fuss about getting to sing with Bruce onstage during one of his 4 hour marathon shows in New Jersey.

Date: Thurs, February 16, 2017, 18:40:40 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Like her, don't like her, whatever. But give RLJ's cover of Low Spark of High Heeled Boys a listen. Her voice definitely works for that one, imo.

Date: Thurs, February 16, 2017, 18:36:38 ET
Posted by: Hoot Gibson, CA

Steve Winwood will be headlining a big show at The Hollywood Bowl with Mavis Staples opening on September 13. Good to see Winwood back as a headliner.

Date: Thurs, February 16, 2017, 17:43:21 ET
Posted by: Hoot Gibson, CA

Give some credit to Rickie Lee Jones. At least she hasn't fallen into the "nostalgia act cycle" like Steely Dan and others have done. Rickie is still an active recording artist and even formed her own record label to release new songs she has written. She shakes up her setlist for each show and won't play "Chuck E's in Love" just because the audience wants to hear it. Her attitude reminds me of Van Morrison in many ways.

Date: Thurs, February 16, 2017, 16:01:45 ET
Posted by: Hoot Gibson, CA

I guess a friendship developed between Rickie Lee Jones and Madeleine Peyroux during the Steely Dan Beacon run last year. So now they are recording and touring together. Of course, they probably never would have recorded David Essex's "Rock On" if Hillary Clinton won the election instead of Trump.

Date: Thurs, February 16, 2017, 15:11:49 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

More anon goodness from some very happy people on the Steely Dan Message board.

Date: Thurs, February 16, 2017, 14:02:58 ET
Posted by: Man Hater, working in PA

One of Rickie Lee Jones' tweets from November 11 last year: "I'm sick of men ruling. Living in a world of men".

Date: Thurs, February 16, 2017, 14:00:55 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

RLJ had a good year when Walter produced and may have peaked then.
I think the one after was ok too.
The newer stuff with that thinner voice is forgettable imo.
On that Laura Nyro tribute from last year she is trying to be a female Tow Waits - with horrendous results imo.
The real story about her not sitting at the Beacon may be that Walt and Don didn't know how and where to fit her in -
especially with all that soul (of which she has none) from the other ladies going on.
I can't think of a single SD song that would sound good with her.

Date: Thurs, February 16, 2017, 11:39:37 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

yet, too more reasons not two like those to bitches, Et Tu political.

Date: Wed, February 15, 2017, 21:33:06 ET

Has Michael Damian released a statement yet about the remake?
# The Two Corey's

Date: Wed, February 15, 2017, 20:04:00 ET
Posted by: Fish, NYC

Rickie Lee Jones tweeted that she made the video for women's rights. Rickie said the song/video is a message of hope.

Date: Wed, February 15, 2017, 19:18:09 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

No need to go to Facebook, and deal with that bullshit, to see Rickie and Madeleine's version of Rock On. It's on youtube:

Yes, it's very political. But I have no problem with artists making political statements. Actually, I think it's IMPORTANT for artists to make political statements. Artists have been among the leaders in the fight for human rights, for years. "That Bob Dylan should keep his opinions to himself."--Joe Lunchbucket's grandfather, 1964.

I just wish they had picked a better song to cover. This is a reasonable cover, but it's a terrible song, IMO.

Date: Wed, February 15, 2017, 14:17:01 ET
Posted by: Joe Lunchbucket, NYC, working hard at an actual "job"

Thanks for the short video review, Fishy. Me? I like Maddy P. a bit, and RLJ is OK in small doses. I'm just officially tired of all these celebs & rock stars and their "VERY political" lectures. Most of these delusional people have enough trouble with their various substance abuse problems and mental illness problems that they really shouldn't be taking their valuable time to hector the rest of us. Or futilely cheer-lead the losing side. It's getting annoying.

Date: Wed, February 15, 2017, 12:45:28 ET
Posted by: Fish, NYC

Yesterday Rickie Lee Jones & Madeleine Peyroux released a new music video for their cover version of "Rock On" by David Essex. Their remake is quite good and the video is VERY political. Just go visit Rickie Lee Jones' Facebook page to watch it.

Date: Tues, February 14, 2017, 20:01:59 ET

My bad, not sure why "when" was capitalized.

Date: Tues, February 14, 2017, 20:00:35 ET

Rest easy EC, Monsuer Lapage done come up empty in his latest fishing expedition. I had to read his post three times, as it was such a naked troll job, albeit a damn funny one. They appear WHEN you least expect it, like a rash.

Date: Tues, February 14, 2017, 12:56:55 ET
Posted by: EC, NY

Anyone who attempts to seriously discuss the likes of Bon Jovi on a Steely Dan board should expect to have his head handed to him. In very small pieces.

Even though the Big Springsteen Dust-up of last summer contained many of the funniest moments in Bluebook history, I for one hope there isn't gonna be a "Bon Jovi Dust-up". I don't think my system can take it...

Date: Tues, February 14, 2017, 11:11:50 ET
Posted by: Manuel Noriega, Center For Truth In Advertising

Peter Quinones is a Mexican who was picked up in a raid yesterday. His leafblower days in the US are over.

NYB is a blonde/blue eyed American God, not unlike Jim Morrison in popularity except y'know... with like sunlight hair and blue sky eyes and... BETTER! He's a Walter/God MIX! He's... he's a diamond/pearl/uranium238/electrical storm hybrid being that never dies.

This post is now law.

Thank You,

Date: Tues, February 14, 2017, 09:13:37 ET
Posted by: Brent M, CBS

Aja, released on Sep. 23, 1977 opened with the lyric "In the corner of my eye. I saw you in Rudy's"

Dec. 9, 1977 was the date of the near fatal punch of Rudy Tomjanovich by Kermit Washington in an NBA game.

"I saw something from the corner of my eye — it was Rudy running at me 100 miles an hour," Washington said. "And I swung and that was a mistake that I made in judgment."

Date: Tues, February 14, 2017, 07:54:05 ET
Posted by: The Truth,

PeterQ, since you mentioned the truth, why do you keep posting as NYB?

Date: Tues, February 14, 2017, 07:49:08 ET
Posted by: NYB, Fun Fact #2853372441

As you may recall, the Aja album was recorded from January to July of 1977... with the release date of September 23rd.

Now, interestingly, the Voyager 2 space probe was launched on August 20th, 1977... Contained within the space probe was a gold record, supposedly outlining the planet Earth to any alien civilization which happens to find it. Current estimates are that Voyager 2 will pass near the giant star Sirius in approximately 296,000 years.

But now HERE for the first time, we reveal THE TRUTH ABOUT THE VOYAGER 2 RECORD!

It is not just a gold record with a bunch of formulas and charts scribbled on it and stuff but THE ACTUAL FIRST MASTER PRESSING OF THE AJA ALBUM! Along with a pic of these two maniacs flashing the peace sign! (Some of you may have suspected this)

As none of you will be alive 296,000 years from now, I have decided to be your representative to the discovering alien race. Yes I! NYB! Will speak for YOU on that awesome day! My thoughts will be your thoughts! My mind will be your mind! Vulcan Mind-Melding with the aliens FOR YOU!

All I need though is like $40 Billion dollars living expenses till then...

WHAT! IT'S 296,000 YEARS OKAY???

Everybody wants somethin' fer nuthin' around here...

Date: Tues, February 14, 2017, 07:34:24 ET
Posted by: satchan, tokyo

from a japanese perspective, why do you fight so much? Stop fighting.

Date: Mon, February 13, 2017, 21:01:27 ET
Posted by: Steely Director, NOLA

Sorry I'm late to the Al Jarreau party, I mean "wake". Loved the SCTV parody of "The Jazz Singer", in which he starred along with the previously-mentioned greatest musician of all time (IMHO), "Sid Dithers". Sid's most famous quote: "San Franciske? How did you came? Did you driven or did you flew?"

Also in that sketch: Rick Moranis, who was in the "Tomorrow's Girls" video.

Date: Mon, February 13, 2017, 20:10:27 ET
Posted by: Houdanfan, Houston

All you one uppers in here are good for laugh

Date: Mon, February 13, 2017, 19:27:04 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Mr Lapage - Its the Starland Vocal Band, everyone knows that !!!

Date: Mon, February 13, 2017, 18:37:42 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC/NJ

whats wit da adittude?!
da dan and da boss are two of my favorite northeastern bands
get a life and just enjoy the sound.

Date: Mon, February 13, 2017, 18:34:44 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Analyzing stuff again

Based on his past overwhelmingly enthusiastic endorsements of such low-brow acts as Springsteen, Asia, Journey, & the truly loathsome Bon Jovi, it should be clear to even casual Bluebook readers that poster Mr LaPage is absolutely NOT a "troll" in the strictest sense of the term. Sure, these LaPage posts are from someone who is obviously looking for attention, but make no mistake - this guy is 100% sincere.

Remember how aggressively (and profanely) he defended The Boss several months back? Remember the rambling, obscenity-riddled attack posts? This guy is definitely for real. His heart is on his sleeve, certainly when it comes to the above named bands.

As an aside...maybe it's me, but I think paying damn near $700 for a seat to any rock concert, let alone a savagely idiotic one like Bon Jovi, borders on malfeasance of personal resources, and admitting to that act of gross stupidity is quite possibly an indicator of some serious-but-untreatable mental illness.

And, yes, some Big Tents are simply way too Big. And, as the old expression goes, some people can't tell shit from Shinola.

Date: Mon, February 13, 2017, 17:57:40 ET
Posted by: King Troll, listening to Moonlight Feels Right by Starbuck

No. Mr. LaPage writes these inane gibberish just to tick people off and get attention. Don't be a sucker and take the bait.

Date: Mon, February 13, 2017, 17:48:24 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Casual observer of circuses & camping protocols

It is my considered opinion that some tents are far too big.

Date: Mon, February 13, 2017, 16:42:20 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Mr LaPage, are you fishing with spinner bait or a plastic worm?

Date: Mon, February 13, 2017, 15:45:55 ET
Posted by: Mr LaPage, in the den

Al Jarreau? I think my grandma and some of her senile friends are upset about that story. Meanwhile, the real news for true music lovers is that rock superstars Bon Jovi are touring as we speak, and I managed to score a single seat at $463.83 (plus those annoying fees of course) through Ticketmaster's resale division for this Sunday's St. Louis show at the Scottrade Center. I had lined up an even better pair, also through Ticketmaster resale, at $685.80 each, but nobody I knew was willing to pony up, so single ticket it is! BTW there are still some tickets left at well under $400.00 each, and some way out in the boonies seats for around $50.00 if your not a dedicated Bon Jovi fan but would still like to see one of the best live bands in the universe live and in person. Or if your tastes run more to Starlight Vocal Band or Spandau Ballet, you could pass on this outstanding musical opportunity and stay home.

The band will be playing material from their fantastic new album, This House Is Not For Sale (VERY highly recommended BTW), as well as (of course) monster hits like Livin' On A Prayer, You Give Love A Bad Name, Wanted Dead Or Alive, and Have A Nice Day. Trust me when I say that this Sunday night can't come soon enough for yours truly LOL!

Date: Mon, February 13, 2017, 13:59:32 ET
Posted by: Pat, IL

News media is really talking about Al Jarreau today. Time magazine just called Jarreau the greatest male jazz singer of his time. Others insist he was the definitive smooth jazz vocalist.

Date: Mon, February 13, 2017, 13:09:43 ET
Posted by: RD, RR

Here's Al Jarreau and SD being nominated for best album Grammy.

Date: Mon, February 13, 2017, 00:41:15 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

So sad about Al Jarreau. Maybe heart failure? So cool, so smooth. Flawless

He sang his biggest hit to a nurse in the hospital:

originally recorded with this All Star lineup:

Producer: Jay Graydon
Drums: Steve Gadd
bass: Abe Laboriel
Guitars: Steve Lukather
Fender Rhodes: Michael Omartian
Synth: Michael Omartian
Alto Sax: Lon Price

I'm so bummed. Class act.

TGD, bard

"How about Bill Bruford as an opening act (cept he's retired). One of a Kind or Feels Good To Me would set the scene nicely.
Re: Third World Man- I favor the slow tempo,contrasted with the first person manic perspective of Don't Take Me Alive, there is more distance and a weary sadness to it."

My feelings exactly re: gives it that spectacular slow mo feel as chaos erupts like the opening theme of Hill Street Blues.

Date: Sun, February 12, 2017, 20:01:16 ET
Posted by: Cloudy, MN

Al Jarreau suffered from serious hearing loss. He had to wear hearing aids.

Date: Sun, February 12, 2017, 18:58:48 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

"they gargle my balls, if you ever catch me listening to steely dan you should slice my head off with an Al Jarreau LP"
-from the movie Knocked Up, fact.

Date: Sun, February 12, 2017, 17:34:52 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Offering congratualtions

QUOTE: ""TGD" was Donald Fagen."

That's right, "MSNBC/This just in". DF has nothing better to do these days than contribute posts to The Bluebook about King Crimson lyrics and talk about John Wetton's passing, tell us that his favorite drummers are Ringo and Bill Bruford, ask a question about the lyrics to "The Bear", and announce the following:

QUOTE: "re: DF's next- I would love him to turn his considerable lyrical talents away from the 'hey nineteen/pixeleen/ new breed/ slinky thing/d'rhonda' (wonderful though they are!) template. Hope that doesn't sound bad. Just think he's mined that vein."

Good work, Detective Billy!

Date: Sun, February 12, 2017, 14:46:52 ET
Posted by: Zeb, Dallas

Al Jarreau's passing is shrouded in mystery. We don't know the exact cause of his death. We only know he was suffering from exhaustion. The man couldn't even enjoy his retirement.

Date: Sun, February 12, 2017, 13:37:15 ET
Posted by: popegreg, MKE

RIP Al Jarreau. A true original, beloved here on his hometown of Milwaukee.

Date: Sun, February 12, 2017, 12:23:15 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Happy Bagel, Dean.
I am always a little suspect when a guy pops in and makes it all about himself, then the inevitable resume follows- as if he's freakin' Hemingway.
Wouldn't blame Trump for that one though, this pattern is as old as the internet, more than 3 weeks.
Trying to decide if Vegas or Santa Barbara works better this spring.
I thought I heard before that the sound at the Country Bowl is kind of subdued due to residential restrictions?
Hope someone can prove me wrong on that, thanks in advance.

Date: Sun, February 12, 2017, 12:14:55 ET
Posted by: MSNBC, This Just In...

"TGD" was Donald Fagen.

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 21:13:58 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

M/O/P/D, I have to agree, I don't see any real evidence of TGD being treated horribly. Where? Who? I see only a couple of posts defending me, after TGD took the first cheap-shot at me.

["Dean:after your un- apology and an appraisal of your posts let me announce that you seem a thoroughly nasty ( not witty or snarky) piece of work. You seen to take pleasure in putting others down. Of what are you 'the Dean' ? Low Self-Esteem Compensation College?"]

I actually checked the archives back to October, and still can't figure out what it is I was supposed to apologize for---and to whom? Certainly not to TGD, as I don't believe I have ever referenced him in a post, prior to him taking that shot at me. Was it before that? Am I missing something here? In the words of TGD, "I did not attack... read the posts."

Well I did read the posts. He attacked me. Plain as day. Any "horrible treatment" to him, came after that, and not by me.

Yes, I have expressed a negative opinion of Mel Tormé, and groups like Asia and Toto. So what? Those aren't attacks on posters. Those are just my opinions---my tastes. Anyone who is offended by someone having, and expressing, different tastes and opinions, really shouldn't be going anywhere near the Internet, IMO. I know I can be a bit direct or as M/O/D/P said, "a dick" (I'll get you, motherfucker!). But very rarely am I a dick to a regular member of the community. I save those for attacks for trolls (who typically post several similar posts using different usernames) and who are here to simply insult Steely Dan, the fans of the band, and rile up the forum.

Mostly though, it's hard to believe a worldly 68-year old man (with "letters" after his name) can be this thin-skinned. But I suppose we can expect more of this kind of behavior in these days of Trump. Attack anyone with whom you disagree, while getting most of the facts wrong. Create arguments that lack any logical cohesiveness (that 6-point, meandering post is a real beaut, don't you think?). Blame everyone else, take no personal responsibility.

Tomorrow is February 12th. 208 years, to the day, after Abe Lincoln and Charles Darwin were born. It was 83 years ago from tomorrow, Bill Russel entered this world. And (drum roll, 60 years from tomorrow, The Dean made his first earthly appearance. Maybe it's a beard thing. [And for those who don't know, I got the nickname "Dino" when I was two days old. My friends started calling me "The Dean" over 45 year ago. I didn't just start calling myself "The Dean".] But no matter how old I get, I promise to stay young enough to laugh heartily at any remark such as. "I spend my days working with children and will not use sarcasm or irony in their company." Is there any better shorthand for "I'm a boring old fuck"?

OK, so I can be a hypocrite, too. Sue me!

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 19:01:11 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

I'd say "Borat" was the best movie to heavily focus on Pubic Hair.

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 18:01:47 ET
Posted by: Hanson, home in Boston

Whoopi Goldberg talks about going to a Steely Dan show and pubic hair:

Whoopi says she saw a lot of old people at a Steely Dan show she attended.

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 15:30:06 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,

Abu: Wow - I'm Not That Guy is fantastic! Lead single material, and it's left off the album. It rocks a bit more than the rest of the album, digging more into Dan's 1st 3 albums than the rest of Headquarters. The babe choir has some Eye to Eye harmonies going. Great bridge. Smoking guitar solo. Jim Gordon-like drum fills. Very clever use of the electric sitar as well. Winner.

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 14:50:49 ET
Posted by: Spud, listening to Sheena Easton

Steely Dan tribute bands always play "Here at the Western World". It's a heavy favorite. Steely Dan won't touch the song and refuse to perform it at shows (with the exception of Donald's fast version on his Morph solo tour).

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 14:17:08 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

All of this "big dick, bigger dick" talk got me thinking about Here at the Western World. Sausage and beer, rap with your cane, hide from the madman you're longing to be - you get the picture.

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 13:13:01 ET
Posted by: Mike, LA

Interesting tidbits from Mel Torme's Wikipedia entry:

Mel Torme called rock and roll "three chord manure".

Blues/gospel singer Ethel Waters said "Torme is the only white man who sings with the soul of a black man".

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 12:40:31 ET
Posted by: Slim, Cooperstown

Rickie Lee Jones & Madeleine Peyroux have recorded a new song together called "As Time Goes By". Listen to it on Rickie Lee Jones' Facebook page.

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 12:27:12 ET
Posted by: Flo, Mel's Diner

Linda Lavin on Donald Fagen: "I don't understand everything he says, but I sure as hell love listening to it".

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 12:26:58 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Mooning The River

TGD - There's really no need for you to be offended. Nobody here was actually "horrible" to you, certainly not as far as I can see, unless your definition of "horrible" differs markedly from mine - which it may. And after all, it's only "the internet" - a bunch of semi-anonymous-sort-of-like-minded people having an extended conversation, mostly (but not always) about music group Steely Dan. Sure, it's a bit of a tough room, sometimes, but nowhere near as downright uncivil as so many other comparable projects. Try reading some of the Zappa forums. Not for pleasure, or enlightenment, or information, mind you. For context. Now that's uncivil.

And as for a higher level of discourse, it's definitely here, just not necessarily in evidence every post, everyday. I mean , The Blue is no "Greasy Lake" (what is?), or "Open All Night" (Springsteen talk En Francais - talk about a higher level of discourse!), but it isn't so bad, and new posters pop up all the time here and are generally welcomed with open arms or treated with complete indifference.

Anyways, for what it's worth, I though some of your posts were pretty good, with some decent conversation starters. Despite what you now think, you were fitting in just fine. However, there really wasn't any need for your sudden, unprovoked and caustic outburst directed at a respected regular. Sure, The Dean can be a bit of a dick sometimes. That's part of his charm - most of us love him for it. Truth be told, I'm an even bigger dick on this board, but only on rare occasions, and strictly when necessary, or when I just feel like it, whichever comes first. Even my tongue-in-cheek "invitation" was meant to be taken as a light-hearted, gentle rebuke. I thought it was pretty funny, but then again, I would.

So, in conclusion, I'd like to thank The Academy and everybody behind the scenes who helped make this award-winning post possible. And I'd also like to ask you, TGD, to perhaps reconsider that planned swan-dive off the suspension bridge and into the Hungry Crocodile Pit. Don't do it, man.

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 05:14:42 ET
Posted by: Pike , Tacoma Wa

Link for official Al Jarreau Moonlighting video;

Cybill Shepherd & Bruce Willis are funny.

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 05:05:36 ET
Posted by: Pike, Tacoma WA

How come nobody has posted the official music video for Al Jarreau's Moonlighting theme? That other link just has the audio. This is the one to see because it has lovable Cybill Shepherd & Bruce Willis in it.

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 04:20:25 ET
Posted by: TGD, bard

As a postscript (i.e. simple explanation) 'Moon River' - subtext: my pretensions of sophistication belie my humble origins, where my deeper truth lies.
Again, to those that weren't horrible, thanks.
I did not attack, but was shot down- read the posts.

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 03:49:56 ET
Posted by: Pike , Tacoma WA

Mel Torme had an enormous ego. Really irritating in interviews. Have you heard Mel's lame cheesy attempts at singing rock 'n roll? Here's one of them. Mel Torme singing "Sunshine Superman" by Donovan:

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 03:31:32 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Yeah...I have fond memories from my college days
watching "SCTV" in all of its various versions (syndication, NBC
late night for a while and even on Cinemax briefly).
From reading and watching interviews with all of them
and seeing the success that John Candy had in features and
Eugene Levy recently had with those "American Pie" movies...I think
all of them unanimously said that the "SCTV" era of their careers
was the most fun any of them ever had before or since (and you can certainly see it in their performances).
That's one show that I hope gets added to MeTV or
one of those other retro TV channels.

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 03:15:15 ET
Posted by: Pike, Tacoma WA

Hey Dean. SCTV parody of Mel Torme singing the National Anthem (performed by the great Rick Moranis):

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 03:10:45 ET
Posted by: TGD, bard

1) thanks to anyone that wasn't horrible to me.
2) 'trying to be clever' - on a SD site... are you kidding me, where is a better place!
3) I have lived for 68 years, worked in many different countries and cultures and hope I have learnt a bit about humanity.
4) I welcome strangers and don't attack them.
I spend my days working with children and will not use sarcasm or irony in their company.
5) I have written childrens' books, about Charles Hodgson and the Beatles and about Mervyn Peake.
I am not Dean but have letters after my name.
6) If I was to say that some people "suffer from an enlargement of the amygdala in the lower brain. It makes them paranoid and aggressive" it would only to quote Donald Fagen.

That said, I take my leave with these words - the most profound song in popular music was written by Johnny Mercer and Henry Mancini and sung by Audrey Hepburn.

Date: Sat, February 11, 2017, 02:34:27 ET
Posted by: Doug, Dublin

Whoopi's right, in my recent experience!


Date: Fri, February 10, 2017, 21:51:24 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Yoo-Toobing


Thanks, Steve and The Dean.

Date: Fri, February 10, 2017, 20:57:19 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach. Still

Steve, another good call. Fucking hilarious:

Date: Fri, February 10, 2017, 20:43:40 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Awesome! Thank you, Abu. And you, too Don B.

Date: Fri, February 10, 2017, 20:26:22 ET
Posted by: Abu, Missing from Headquarters

Hey, for you Monkey House fans: Here is a tune that did not make the final cut for their 2012 album "Headquarters". It is called I'm Not That Guy. It sounds to me that this cut sounds like quality music, like for instance, Don & Walt's Here at the Western World. What I mean, of course is, not that these two songs sound similar, but the QUALITY of both songs are top notch. The aforementioned SD tune, of course, was officially released by the Dan on their Greatest Hits album in '78. This MH tune was also officially released on their Retrospective album. Link below:

Date: Fri, February 10, 2017, 20:23:21 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Sorry for the misspellings/grammatical errors/sloppy composition/etc. I'm pretty sure you get the drift.

Date: Fri, February 10, 2017, 20:20:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Good call, Steve. Haven't heard that in quite a while. A perfect tune while I drink a little bourbon, smoke a cheeba stick and prepare some dinner. Great cover of a really terrific song. Seals and Croft really wrote a few interesting tunes. I never really delved into them, but I'm almost always happy when a S&C tune comes on the radio, in a bar, etc. Diamond Girl is a fantastic song, too, IMO.

Another thing that's helped my universe recently is, Circus Money has gone into heavy rotation again, in my car. I should mention, the weather here has been nearly perfect for quite awhile. Being able to drive with the windows down, tunes cranking, reasonably fresh air breezing through the car probably has enhanced the experience. Anyway, after heavy listening of something for a long period of time, it's good to put it away for awhile, and then come back to it. It's familiar, yet fresh. And I know this is a cliché, but you hear it again, for the first time.

The entire album, from the songs, to the musicianship, to the production is top notch, IMO. You can't beat the horn section, rhythm section, backup vocals---everything. The "weak link", I suppose by default, should be Walter's vocals. I'm just saying, everyone else is at the very top level of their respective fields, Walter has never been accused of being a top vocalist, I don't think. But he more than holds his own, on this album. He is not "out of place" here, in any way. He really learned how to use accentuate the strengths of his vocal ability, and eliminate just about all the weaknesses, on this album. And as the music is his, he sings it very confidently and with style. He and Donald are similar in that way. as Donald doesn't have the stereotypical "great voice". However, IMO, he is a GREAT singer.

Anyway, where was I? Oh yes, Circus Money. I hate to single out just one member of the band, but Roger Rosenberg really makes me smile, on this album. That tone he gets just blows me away, every time I hear it.

Have a beautiful night, Dan Fans

Date: Fri, February 10, 2017, 19:17:09 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Sorry to hear about Al Jarreau's poor health. He is
remarkably talented. Check out his cover of "Summer Breeze", the
old Seals & Crofts tune and he's paired up with George Benson on it.
Pure magic.
..and if you remember Al's guest spot on the old "SCTV"
you know he was a good sport and had a great sense of humor himself.

Date: Fri, February 10, 2017, 19:10:40 ET
Posted by: Steve, DE

Rick Derringer in the news

Date: Fri, February 10, 2017, 10:30:06 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

DS, I think Frey and Henley's contribution to FM is "common knowledge"---but that doesn't mean it's true. Neither does an album credit, though. I did a quick Google search for "steely dan fm henley frey" (without the quotation marks) and the first two results (one Wikipedia and one a music site) confirmed their participation as backup singers. Again, evidence, but not exactly proof. Of course, it's entirely possible they sang backup in the studio, but their vocals weren't used in the actual recording. But is this really worth arguing over?

I'd prefer to keep stomping on the legend of Mel Tormé. I admit, I have never understood his appeal. I think most of his fans are just old white people who really don't like jazz, but want to feel hip, from time-to-time. I know, that's racist and mean-spirited. Sue me. Seriously, though, I feel the same way about scatting as I do about wearing spandex. A very small percentage of the population should have the right to do those things. (And, I don't believe there is much overlap in those two groups.) As Doc Mu correctly points out, Mel's singing is "a bit Vegas". Unless it is intentional, and mocking, I'm not sure how that can be a good thing. And yes, it's his shtick. It's also shlok and dreck, IMO. And just to assure you I'm not completely racist (although, thanks to the new President, bigotry is now OK--and even encouraged!) I absolutely adore Chet Baker's scatting. To my ears, it just sounds natural and soulful. Tormé's scatting sounds very forced, to me. And he can suck the soul out of any tune. OK, enough of that.

While not a big fan, I do respect Al Jarreau. Sad to hear about his health issues. Funny thing is, while I used to watch Moonlighting, I don't recall that theme song, at all. It didn't even sound vaguely familiar. Very weird.

And thanks to the Blue community for coming to my defense. I really try not to attack posters (I sometimes fail in that endeavor), but I will express disagreement with opinions, from time-to-time. What's wrong with that? I wouldn't expect everyone to agree with mine, all the time. I think Mr. Patrol has it right. When you meet someone in person, it's usually a bit harder to judge them harshly. "Usually" being the key term, here.

Well, I've babbled enough. It's time for me to go to school, and eat some cheese.

Date: Fri, February 10, 2017, 10:08:53 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

The Yacht Rock source was probably Sweet's book, not Wikipedia. There's a shot of it (the updated, post-TVN pressing) prominently featured twice in Episode 3:

Date: Fri, February 10, 2017, 09:19:46 ET
Posted by: DS, NJ


What do you mean "well known?" I've never seen an album credit or a quote from either SD or The Eagles on it. If his source is the Yacht Rock video, what is Yacht Rock's source? If the source is Wikipedia, and Wikipedia cites Brian Sweet, what is his source?

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 22:40:05 ET
Posted by: Mt. Belzoni, Portland OR

I saw Linda Lavin give an outstanding performance in the wonderful 2011 Kennedy Center revival of Stephen Sondheim's brilliant Tony-winning 1971 musical "Follies" (about a reunion of aging Ziegfeld girls looking back on their lives on the eve before the wrecking ball takes down their old theatre). I was really surprised by the strength of Lavin's performance, and disappointed when she left the show before it moved to Broadway to take a lead in a different Broadway show.

Also read recently amidst the various articles about Mary Tyler Moore's unfortunate passing that Lavin had been the runner up to Valerie Harper for the part of Rhoda.

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 22:38:41 ET
Posted by: J. Ronson, Toronto, Canada

Hey, Bard guy - So far you've used (at least) three different handles over the past week and a bit. Maybe more, I don't know. Some of your posts have been worthwhile, for sure, but this latest run of unsolicited bitter insults and pedantic trying-way-too-hard stuff isn't clever or interesting or even funny. It's just crap. Give it a rest. Please.

On a more contributory note, the estimable Mr. Larry Carlton will be in the broader Toronto area in early March. He has a show in St. Catherines on March 08, and another in Burlington (Ontario) on the 9th. I plan to be at both shows. I know there are other Toronto readers/posters here. Anyone else planning on seeing Mr. 335?

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 21:44:55 ET
Posted by: TGF, bard

Gino F: thanks.

As to being a bit slow ( something said, not good) I got that one! It's Homer Simpson, from Day of the Locust, right?

Rather than go with Elizabeth's Court Numerologist John Dee (1507-1609) I'll leave it to that other seer, George Costanza, to shout up from the street, "85!".

As for missing references, sing along with Rikki...

something said, Nathaniel West... not good.

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 21:18:06 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

As I have mentioned before,if you have met a Bbooker face to face, it is much easier to determine how their thought process works. I've met quite a few of the people who post here.The Dean among them. And TGD I can assure you,your assessment of him is way off the mark. Of course I haven't met you,so I have no opinion about you. But those I know, I value their postings. It's a fun place,this Bluebook. Hope to maybe see you at a show sometime!

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 20:37:27 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Hoping for more as well, but not THAT kind of more

QUOTE: "...a tad disappointed in the 'level of discourse'. Hoped for more."

Is that why, as a newer poster here, you chose to word your recent post to The Dean in the most insulting manner possible?

Because if that's your idea of a higher level of discourse, you'd likely be better off contributing to "" or maybe "".

Oh, and it's never a good idea to admit that someone's reference or comment went over your head. That kinda makes you look a bit slow...

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 20:23:46 ET
Posted by: TGD, bard

Re: insults - Sorry, great put down but I didn't get your reference (William Golding?)anyway, check my first post concerning John Wetton's death c/f response. Guess I was brought up different.
also TBH, a tad disappointed in the 'level of discourse'. Hoped for more.Play Rikki, man!

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 19:52:39 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Not quite as thin-skinned & defensive as some, apparently

A helpful word of advice for anyone who, after contributing a bunch of posts here recently, would seek to gratuitously & publicly insult a regular Bluebook participant: When you have contributed as many thoughtful posts and excellent reads to The Blue as The Dean has over the years, maybe then you will be in a better position to assess things and pass comment respectfully and intelligently. To clarify, that's, "pass comment respectfully and intelligently", not, "run your mouth like a Cheese-Eating Schoolboy and take cheap shots at a stranger on the internet".

Until that far-off day arrives, I would personally like to invite you to shut yer yap.

ps - The previous invitation, while not formal, is an open one and will not be revoked without prior notice. The invitation has no expiry date, and cannot be combined with other offers, and it has no cash value.

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 18:37:36 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Ben: Really hate to hear that about Al Jarreau

Here's a classic produced by Jay Graydon (Peg guitar solo)

complete with a Fagen-like synth harp thingy solo

Jarreau was a regular with the short lived and actually underrated Alan Thicke talk/comedy skit show from the 80s.

Moonlighting theme song:

a direction Fagen *might* have been on IF he had released that mind 80s 2nd solo album.

A tricky Diana Ross Fagen tune

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 18:37:28 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

In agreement with Dean, Ella and Cab Calloway did enough scatting for me too for the next 100 years.
Mel Torme certainly can carry a tune but I'd never want to hear him scat either, ignorant as I am.
It's almost like when Walter quotet Graucho Marx that
'all Hawaiian music was made in one day'
I could listen to it daily though, because it means I'm on vacation.
TGB, the Dean is known for his knowledgeable and thoughtful inputs here, not sure what offended you?

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 17:29:10 ET
Posted by: TGD, bard

Dean:after your un- apology and an appraisal of your posts let me announce that you seem a thoroughly nasty ( not witty or snarky) piece of work. You seen to take pleasure in putting others down. Of what are you 'the Dean' ? Low Self-Esteem Compensation College?

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 16:28:16 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Indy

Another legend's announced his retirement and his health struggles:

Carolyn scatted with him at one point.

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 16:19:45 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

The recent issue of Guitar Player magazine has an article covering the wonderful MU chords of Steely Dan. Very cool.

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 16:11:26 ET
Posted by: Mike , .

DS: It's pretty well known that both Henley and Frey sang on FM.

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 16:04:30 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Indy

Imagine if The Queen of Soul joined SD before she retires!

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 15:54:24 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Dean: The scatting (very Butch Cassidy & Sundance Kid, 5th Dimension) and arrangement on the Velvet Fog's version of Goodbye Look are great. singing a bit Vegas, but it's his schtick.

badda bop de bop amadadebop

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 12:24:25 ET
Posted by: Scavenger Dan, NY

Reviews always state Linda Lavin sings Steely Dan's "Black Cow" at her concerts. I can't find anything on YouTube yet.

Date: Thurs, February 09, 2017, 11:01:53 ET
Posted by: Steely Jan, Salt Lake City

Right at the end of the Monday episode of the new sitcom "Superior Donuts", one of the characters in the show goes up to a salsa band that had just entered the donut shop and asked if they knew any Steely Dan and offered a tip. The band broke into a salsa version of Peg. Pretty funny.

Date: Wed, February 08, 2017, 23:44:25 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Well, I suppose Ms. Lavin's cover is a tad less embarrassing than that of Mel Tormé. Unfortunately, she channels Mel with her pitiful soulless scatting. BTW, here's Mel's horrible version:

Mel shows his very white scatting work on another horrible Fagen cover:

And, yes, the arrangement and musicianship on all of these is decent, at least.

Date: Wed, February 08, 2017, 20:20:14 ET
Posted by: Vera Vera, What has become of you

Pretty apparent from that Fagen cover that Linda Lavin sang the Alice theme.

Date: Wed, February 08, 2017, 20:00:11 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

You're forgetting Reuben Kincaid was a regular at Mel's Diner and he was always looking to add a "Steely Dan" cover band to his Stable.

Date: Wed, February 08, 2017, 19:48:13 ET

The problem was that whenever Alice would play any Dan, Mel would scream at her to turn it down. Allrighty then, I am done, that is a promise, not a threat.

Date: Wed, February 08, 2017, 18:20:39 ET

Should have read "never" not "ever" all apologies.

Date: Wed, February 08, 2017, 18:18:30 ET

Very nice find Dave, but I could ever troll Hank Moody! # Californication

Date: Wed, February 08, 2017, 18:15:41 ET
Posted by: Dave Cox, Los Angeles

Actress Linda Lavin from the TV-sitcom "Alice" is a HUGE fan of Steely Dan. She always sings Steely Dan songs at her shows and talks about them in interviews. Linda said Donald Fagen is very masculine and calls him the "Lenny Bruce of music". She recorded Donald's "Walk Between Raindrops" on her "Possibilities" CD.

Date: Wed, February 08, 2017, 17:14:47 ET
Posted by: Dave Cox, Los Angeles

Actor David Duchovny thinks Steely Dan is a progressive rock band like Yes & Genesis:

Date: Wed, February 08, 2017, 13:57:22 ET
Posted by: Ben, working

Yep. I'm watching the music video for Donald Fagen's "IGY" on YouTube right now. I think only Timothy B. Schmit sang background vocals on "FM". Gotta get back to work now.

Date: Wed, February 08, 2017, 12:31:46 ET
Posted by: DS, NJ

I drove to Staten Island to pick up the book yesterday after reserving it online. $19.99 and I think the toll to cross the Goethals Bridge is something like $129.50.

The book states that there was a music video for IGY that got airplay on MTV. I remember the video for New Frontier, but not one for IGY. If there was an official video, why wasn't included on the Nightfly DVD-A or Boxed Set as was the New Frontier video?

It claims that Henley and Frey sang on FM. I would like to know his source for this. Only Timothy Schmidt is credited.

Date: Wed, February 08, 2017, 07:08:45 ET
Posted by: Ernie, TX

Yes, realized that after it was posted.

And the back cover has FAGAN. I blame the publisher. The book itself was very carefully written and has an index.

Date: Wed, February 08, 2017, 02:22:23 ET
Posted by: TGD, bard

Ernie: maybe not tomb(I hope) but tome.

Date: Wed, February 08, 2017, 01:15:43 ET
Posted by: Ernie, TX

Also, the foreword is Pete Fogel's personal SD story and makes no comment on the book or its author.

Date: Tues, February 07, 2017, 22:05:27 ET
Posted by: TGD, bard

BTW, would anyone like to clarify the opening lyrics of The Bear?

As I see it, our man has just come through customs and is seeking his connection- so doesn't " Sir,I parked my juggernaut at your gate" make more sense than 'caught my juggernaut at your game, which doesn't rhyme.
Wish there was a third verse - I want to know what happened.

Date: Tues, February 07, 2017, 19:23:38 ET
Posted by: TGD, bard

Re: drummers - my 3 fav ( non SD drummers) are 1) Ringo, because he played only to benefit the song 2) Bruford, because he is so melodic and can tell a story through sound 3) Narada Michael Walden, for personal reasons.

Q. (to John Lennon) Is Ringo the best drummer in the world?
A.He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles.

Date: Tues, February 07, 2017, 18:54:53 ET
Posted by: Sun Boy, playing drums

From what I've read, the reason Bill Bruford retired was because he really really hated touring.

Date: Tues, February 07, 2017, 18:23:57 ET
Posted by: Badger, Pittsburgh

New Steely Dan FAQ book is already out of stock at Barnes & Noble online, and

Date: Tues, February 07, 2017, 16:45:22 ET
Posted by: expect a knock, at the door

sleep tight and don't let the bed bugs bite,james

Date: Tues, February 07, 2017, 15:42:42 ET
Posted by: Ernie, TX

I picked up the FAQ book. I can't imagine anyone wanting to read this linearly. It's quite an encyclopedic tomb and is a bit dense. For example, the entry on Vinnie Colaiuta lists (in sentence form) no fewer than twenty-four other artists for whom he has drummed followed by "and far too many others to list here." I enjoyed the foreword although it concludes abruptly.

Date: Tues, February 07, 2017, 15:38:06 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Bruford wanted to retire like a normal person and wondered why Musicians seemingly are not supposed to do that.
He got tired of having to promote so heavy for his great band Earthworks just to get people to show up in smaller venues.
Rather respectable imo instead of jumping on the next reunion tour.

Date: Tues, February 07, 2017, 08:30:59 ET
Posted by: Doyle, just woke up

I wonder if Bill Bruford will show up at this year's Rock & Roll Hall of Fame ceremony when he's inducted with his other bandmates from Yes. They will be inducted by Geddy Lee & Alex Lifeson of Rush. Maybe Bruford will play the drums again when Yes performs that night. Tickets sold out within one hour. People want to see Steve Perry reunite with Journey.

Date: Tues, February 07, 2017, 04:35:58 ET
Posted by: TGD, bard

Bruford got a Phd in Music. It can suck the life out of you.

Date: Tues, February 07, 2017, 04:14:15 ET
Posted by: Burton, at LAX airport

Most veteran rock bands & artists go on too long until they are a shell of who they were. This would apply to Steely Dan only in terms of the material they are offering to the audience and the absence of new recordings. A continual reliance on hit oriented songs at the concerts can be seen as a derision. The musicianship will never deteriorate because of the top caliber backing musicians and Donald and Walter still in peak performance. These thoughts came to mind because of the early retirement of Bill Bruford.

Date: Tues, February 07, 2017, 03:09:45 ET
Posted by: Abu, In the House with the Monkeys

As for me, Monkey House is clearly influenced by Steely Dan, but they are certainly far from having the same sound. Their music is, in many ways, quite original. Still, they have learned that the jazz influence and additional chords and such, as well as clever bridges, is a unique sound, quite unlike most of the schlop on the radio or ITunes or elsewhere. And, in the absense of a new SD CD in 13 going on 14 years, I'll gladly take it, and enjoy it too.

Date: Tues, February 07, 2017, 00:47:17 ET
Posted by: Peter, sleepless in Seattle

I was very angry when Bill retired. Is the man just lazy? He wasn't suffering from anything. I guess he saved his money from all the bands he played with.

Date: Mon, February 06, 2017, 23:00:47 ET
Posted by: TGD, bard

How about Bill Bruford as an opening act (cept he's retired). One of a Kind or Feels Good To Me would set the scene nicely.
Re: Third World Man- I favor the slow tempo,contrasted with the first person manic perspective of Don't Take Me Alive, there is more distance and a weary sadness to it.

Date: Mon, February 06, 2017, 22:12:01 ET
Posted by: Russell, doing laundry

Some people on Twitter have said Sade is what Steely Dan wanted to be. I don't agree. I think it's the other way around. Anyway there's lots of Sade fans who love Steely Dan. Sade doesn't tour enough though.

Date: Mon, February 06, 2017, 21:40:15 ET
Posted by: old hippie, Greenwich Village NY

What are you smokin', RC/GE? I just listened to The Goose is Loose album by Gooseneck and it's pretty bad. Weak songwriting. Bad arrangements. A real stinker. I think I'll go listen to some Snarky Puppy. They always cheer me up.

Date: Mon, February 06, 2017, 20:47:09 ET
Posted by: Hayfields, & McCoys

Touchy times in the old West.

SD is a broad church and Gooseneck is not on my side of the aisle, that's for sure, but thanks for sharing and pass the collection plate.Whatever rocks your yacht. We've got to have some music on the new frontier.

Date: Mon, February 06, 2017, 20:31:51 ET
Posted by: RC/GE, Still Travelin

Geez old hippie, having a bad day?

When I said I'm not a member I meant of the band Gooseneck. I've been on these boards since the early days of the Yellow Book. I realized after I hit send that I put the wrong handle but I'm GE from way back.

I've never known it to be offensive to introduce music here. Many bands get discussed and a band that is tight, uses horns and nice arrangements I think is worthy of discussion.

If the rules have been changed/defined, let me know.

Now get off my lawn dammit.

Date: Mon, February 06, 2017, 19:47:24 ET
Posted by: old hippie, Greenwich Village NY

Well I guess anybody can come on this board and mention some new band that sounds like or is heavily influenced by Steely Dan. But I really don't want to hear that. I want to hear a band with real originality that doesn't sound like anybody else. When Donald & Walt formed Steely Dan they came up with a truly original sound with no discernible influences. A fresh creative art form that evolved with each new album. Originality is what's missing from rock music nowadays.

Date: Mon, February 06, 2017, 19:37:27 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

RC: More like Fagen's solo stuff, but pretty good. Maybe Wetside Story on the SD side. Nice little guitar solo.

Date: Mon, February 06, 2017, 17:59:09 ET
Posted by: RC, Traveling

Maybe Im the last one to know but the band Gooseneck has some serious Dan vibe. Not a member or sponsor, just thought this group might enjoy.

Date: Mon, February 06, 2017, 16:30:33 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Sorry bout the mistakes in the last post. I assume you can parse out my meaning.

Date: Mon, February 06, 2017, 15:53:41 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

I found some BBNG I found pretty decent---though I can't say I would listen to much of it. Most of it was not my cup of tea, at all. Too much electronica/repetition for my taste. I don't think they'd be a match, at all, for a SD show.

Date: Mon, February 06, 2017, 13:27:47 ET
Posted by: Aja1, Newton

Agree, Chris. BBNG's IV is a better place to start for SD folk.

Chill out Kingfish, I didn't intentionally post twice.

Date: Mon, February 06, 2017, 02:16:38 ET
Posted by: Kale, Philly

The press releases for this new Steely Dan FAQ book look very appealing. I'm going down to Barnes & Noble books this week to take a look at it.

Date: Sun, February 05, 2017, 22:57:57 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

the Ghostface/BBNG album is phenomenal, but not a good starting point for SD fans.

I second the recommendation of IV.

Date: Sun, February 05, 2017, 19:31:12 ET
Posted by: TGD, bard

re: BBNG I only heard 1 song and there wasn't any rap, just sweet sax. Lucky me.

Date: Sun, February 05, 2017, 18:28:56 ET
Posted by: Arthur Jacobs, Manhattan

I heard some Badbadnotgood with Ghostface Killah. I was not impressed. I turned it off. I hate jazz-rap.

Date: Sun, February 05, 2017, 17:01:24 ET
Posted by: TGD, bard

Re: BBNG just waiting for Robert Hyatt or even Coltrane to roll over and join in. Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens...

Date: Sun, February 05, 2017, 06:16:26 ET
Posted by: Jerry , Manchester England

I'm with you Aja1 that BadBadNotGood album is hypnotically and melodically hypnotic

Date: Sat, February 04, 2017, 23:47:50 ET
Posted by: Kingfish, NY

Don't post the same message twice Aja1.

Date: Sat, February 04, 2017, 23:29:13 ET
Posted by: Aja1, Newton

For all that Snarky Puppy gets mentioned here, I think that Badbadnotgood should get a mention. Some Canadian guys who bring it big time. Check 'em out. I recommend starting with their latest album called "IV."

Date: Sat, February 04, 2017, 23:21:16 ET
Posted by: James, NY

Someone mentioned Spyro Grya a few posts down. Anyone think the intro to this 1980 release was lifted from a certain SD song?

Date: Sat, February 04, 2017, 23:19:01 ET
Posted by: Mr. Hanky, Toronto

They should open for Steely Dan. Most people have never heard of them. They need the exposure.

Date: Sat, February 04, 2017, 23:00:57 ET
Posted by: Aja1, Newton

For all that Snarky Puppy gets mentioned here, I think that Badbadnotgood should get a mention. Some Canadian guys who bring it big time. Check 'em out. I recommend starting with their latest album called "IV."

Date: Sat, February 04, 2017, 21:53:39 ET
Posted by: Adobo, cleaning my apartment

Barney Beacon will be happy to hear this.

Date: Sat, February 04, 2017, 21:40:54 ET
Posted by: Jeff, metro area

The Robustelli book is now in stock at some Barnes and Noble locations. You can check online to see which ones have it. Seems most of the Philadelphia area stores have it but not New York.

Date: Sat, February 04, 2017, 18:25:29 ET
Posted by: Leo, Denver, CO

That's true. You have a good point. I guess I didn't think of it that way. You win.

Date: Sat, February 04, 2017, 17:36:16 ET
Posted by: Gil, PA

Leo if that were the case, why would they sprinkle in a couple of CA dates during the Vegas run? That absolutely will keep some people going to Vegas for a show.

Date: Sat, February 04, 2017, 16:50:38 ET
Posted by: Leo, resting in Denver

It makes sense. Steely Dan want the Opaline Theatre to be filled up during their Vegas residency. If they announce a Summer tour now it would mean less people flying to Vegas for the shows.

Date: Sat, February 04, 2017, 13:42:29 ET
Posted by: Wes, New Jersey

On second thought, Steely Dan might start their Summer tour in late July.

Date: Sat, February 04, 2017, 13:12:39 ET
Posted by: Wes, New Jersey

Maybe there won't be a Steely Dan Summer tour. Keith Carlock will be touring Europe with the Bill Evans/Dean Brown Band from the end of June to July 14:

Keith Carlock just posted it on his Twitter page too.

Date: Sat, February 04, 2017, 09:02:30 ET
Posted by: Ric, NE

The quote from Knocked Up was "Steely Dan gargles my balls."

Date: Sat, February 04, 2017, 03:34:19 ET
Posted by: TGD, bard

re: JW- a pity "everything" is on record. YouTube has an off/key rendition of Exiles (love that song) from the '70's with Cross and/or Wetton out of sorts. Maybe the tape is stretched or something.
Also Wetton rehearsing (rather than performing) Starless and Bible Black with a young band.
Guess it's a document however he looks like he's going through the motions. Let It Be had drama, at least.

Date: Fri, February 03, 2017, 23:13:07 ET
Posted by: Greg Wetton, John Lake

Asia in Asia, 1983- Greg Lake covering vocals when John Wetton was ill-

Date: Fri, February 03, 2017, 22:05:06 ET
Posted by: TGD, bard

re: DF's next- I would love him to turn his considerable lyrical talents away from the 'hey nineteen/pixeleen/ new breed/ slinky thing/d'rhonda' (wonderful though they are!) template. Hope that doesn't sound bad. Just think he's mined that vein.

Date: Fri, February 03, 2017, 21:20:03 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Hoping so

QUOTE: "But I bet we'll get another album out of Fagen soon enough."

Well, the last one showed up with virtually no build-up or fanfare at all. Just the announcement of the release date, and then, the advance "single", then, later, the full track list - then we all had the CD. And a true gem it was/is.

Let's hope Chris NH's prediction comes true, sooner than later.

Date: Fri, February 03, 2017, 20:22:33 ET

From your mouth to God's ear Chris, it would be amazing to get another solo
Donald album. The sooner, the better. In the meantime, SD keep touring, still the best live act out there. # IMHO

Date: Fri, February 03, 2017, 20:05:01 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

They're gonna tour every summer until a) they stop making money or b) they are physically unable to do so.

But I bet we'll get another album out of Fagen soon enough.

Date: Fri, February 03, 2017, 18:31:36 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour! Another Round.

Forthe record, the Humphrey's concert in SD, is listed without any theme/title on Humphrey's website.

Date: Fri, February 03, 2017, 18:18:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Brown, it's clear the SB Bowl is simply reusing last year's tour title. has that show lsted with the "Reelin in the Chips" title. It will be somewhat interesting (I suppose) to see if SB changes to reflect what's on the official SD site, or if SD is going to reuse the "Dan Who Knew..." theme---or if SD isgoing to come up with an entirely new name for the non-Vegas part of the tour. With that said, I doubt Don or Walt really spend much mental time or energy on this.

Date: Fri, February 03, 2017, 17:48:43 ET
Posted by: Brown, SoCal

Haha! The name for Steely Dan's upcoming show on April 25 at the Santa Barbara Bowl is "The Dan Who Knew Too Much Tour 2017". See it at They just reused last year's tour slogan.

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 23:00:06 ET
Posted by: Vic, Reno

Asia used to play King Crimson's "In The Court of the Crimson King" at their shows with John Wetton on lead vocal. Go on YouTube. There's lots of videos on there. The problem is that Greg Lake sang it on the original album not John Wetton. I think John only sung it because it was released as a single.

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 21:02:42 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Lament-ing

"A more haunting elegy I couldn't imagine. " - Quote re: King Crimson's "Exiles".

Beautifully stated. I couldn't agree more.

Deceiver - As for The Dean's initial reaction, many of us here are by now used to unknown contributors (and, sadly, some regulars) who routinely soil things with ugly politics, so without the instant recognition factor on those lyrics, it was an easy misunderstanding to make. Maybe you can see how the post could be misinterpreted, especially given that most of us here don't know your username.

Some random thoughts: Those songs recommended by poster The Great Deceiver (including Exiles, Book of Saturday & Starless and Bible Black) are well worth seeking out and soaking in. I would add to that list a few more songs from the same period - Easy Money, The Night Watch (both featuring Wetton's great vocals), as well as instrumental tracks Red, Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Part Two, and the terrifying Fracture (all of which feature his bass playing).

Finally, John Wetton's work with King Crimson is not merely Astounding Stuff, but more importantly it is the music he should be remembered for primarily. The whole "Asia"/Rock Star Pension Plan thing should be the footnote. I guess life is unfair that way, sometimes. And the fact that anyone with a broad knowledge of popular music from the last century would equate the name "John Wetton" with a crudely written & directed scene in an unfunny garbage grade modern-era ham-fisted "comedy" - and nothing else - well, that's just fucking sad.

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 20:13:51 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

Surprised no one here has mentioned Wetton's contributions to King Crimson's amazing STARLESS AND BIBLE BLACK (1974), nor his many performances of his co-written "The Night Watch" from that album. Musicianship & writing chops of a very high caliber, maybe not best displayed in Asia or later prog supergroups. But superb for a while.

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 17:21:58 ET
Posted by: the great deciever, bard

Dean: let me recommend that song and album. As to left or right, I just wanted to quote Jack of Speed is all. If John Wetton played Do It Again, or sang for Asia or whatever, to me is moot. Listen to Book of Saturday and Starless and Bible Black. Greg Lake gone as well. Where are the Snowdens of Yesteryear?

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 17:17:45 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

ok I'm not a fan of Asia or Wetton or of the 40 year old virgin for that matter but c'mon you have to admit the verbal exchange about SD from Knocked Up is giggle-worthy:

Paul Rudd: I play a guy in the music business, and we had no idea where everything went, and I was saying that a band like Steely Dan could never get signed today and they'd never get any radio play - and he says, 'That's because Steely Dan sucks.' And we get into this whole thing like 'no, Steely Dan is amazing, the early Steely Dan,' and you said something like 'I don't think you'd get into a Steely Dan concert without wine and cheese. If you ever catch me listening to Steely Dan, you could cut my head off with a Spyro Gyra record.'

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 17:10:44 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Yes, the bulk of this year's tour will most likely be announced in due time, if past yaears are any indication. Expect a change of tour title, unless this year's venues are casino-centric.

Gino, yes bad music should be used in bad movies. Then again there is Me, Myself and Irene, which includes many SD tunes. But keep in mind, they are (mostly) regrettable covers--so I guess that makes sense . Full disclosure, I never saw the entire movie. But I have seen several snippets, and it stars Jim Carey, so I think I'm pretty safe in my assumption the movie sucked.

Ben, don't know much about Kung Fu, but have to respect the nod (providing they do justice to the material). Look forward to checking out some vids of their concert.

And deceiver, you got me-- well in one respect. I didn't get you references, which does make your earlier post a bit more interesting than the typical political drivel posted here (be it right wing or progressive). So I take back my earlier chastising post. But you most certainly do not have me, if you've pegged me as "right wing" (and yes, I got that reference). Couldn't be further from the truth.

And while I know this is a pipe-dream, I'd be thrilled if Walt and Don blew off a big summer tour and concentrated on writing new material and/or getting new material ready for a new studio release. But make no mistake. If the boys (and ladies) are playing live, I plan to see them.

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 17:06:08 ET
Posted by: Slowhand, Cleveland

Eric Clapton has written a new tribute song for the late John Wetton. It's a short instrumental track called "For John W". You can hear it on Eric Clapton's Facebook page.

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 16:38:39 ET
Posted by: the great deciever, bard

Sorry, Dean , for not being witty or funny. I was actually talking about the passing of John Wetton. His Lark's Tongues in Aspic song 'Exiles', which I quoted, is applicable to his present whereabouts, I thought.
A more haunting elegy I couldn't imagine.
The Great Deceiver refers to The King Crimson song ( if you want to stink up the joint with right wing hooee, that's your choice).

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 15:55:07 ET
Posted by: Dunkirk, at work

Well, last year Steely Dan announced their Summer tour with Steve Winwood on February 22, 2016. I expect them to release details of this year's Summer tour later this month.

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 15:40:56 ET
Posted by: Gino F., How low can you go?

Definitely no fan of "Asia" to begin with, but finding out that they were somehow included in a lowbrow unfunny mess like "40 Year Old Virgin" just lowered the band in my eyes - something I would have thought simply wasn't possible. Although I'm not taking issue with the concept that bad music belongs in a bad movie, mind you.

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 15:33:03 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

So what's the consensus? Is this Vegas stand, with two Cali dates sprinkled in, going to be it for 2017? Or will they then tack on some sort of summer tour here pretty shortly?

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 15:15:00 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Indy

Grab your Fez!

Here's a cool tour concept connecting SD to the jam band realm:

Asia scene in 40-Year Old Virgin:

Happy Groundhog Day!

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 13:51:51 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

Robert Plant ha-ha!, someone's got a good sense of humor.

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 13:38:08 ET
Posted by: Dunkirk, on lunch break

Video of Larry Carlton at a recent gig in Folsom, CA on 1/27/2017:

Hard to believe you couldn't name a single Asia song. "Heat of the Moment" was a #1 song back in 1982. Their other songs like "Sole Survivor" and "Only Time Will Tell" got heavy airplay on radio, MTV and VH-1. Asia was HUGE in the early '80's.

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 13:31:25 ET
Posted by: Jimmie, etc.

I guess I'm showing my age in that I have no clue which Asia song was in 40 yr old Virgin, but I remember three of their songs getting airplay in 1982 and 1983 when I was in 8th & 9th grade. I also remember kids coming to school with their concert T shirts with the names of the band members on the back. They seemed to appeal to the not-so-clean-cut kids who thought they were into a band that was a lot cooler than Journey, who at the time sold out three days in a row at the area's NBA arena. Yeah, that was their niche, Journey for the burnouts.

Probably not much chance at this point of the Europe/Asia double bill I'd always dreamed of.

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 12:38:06 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I was doing a radio interview when the host busted in to tell me/the listeners about the guy from Asia passing. Like many, I couldn't name a single Asia song beyond the one in 40-year Old Virgin. It was odd. I don't mean to dismiss his talents, but it was as if Robert Plant had kicked the bucket or something, to hear him (a sports guy) talk.

Why would the road crew be upset at extra dates to work? As someone who worked in that industry, I can't imagine turning down April gigs, no matter how rushed. Steely Dan must be an easy setup at this point.

Date: Thurs, February 02, 2017, 02:00:37 ET
Posted by: Abu, John Wetton Doing it Again

Video for John Wetton's cover of Do It Again with the Les Paul Trio is here:

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 22:54:07 ET
Posted by: Ronnie, NY

John Wetton must have really liked Steely Dan's "Do It Again". He covered the song again on his "New York Minute-Live at The Iridium 2015" album with the Les Paul trio. Only piano, bass and guitar are played. No drums. The album is quite good. Very delicate. Steely Dan fans might like it. Sorry but I don't see it on YouTube. I bought the CD last year.

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 22:16:50 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, NYC

Monday April 17 Humphrey's - San Diego CA
Tuesday April 25 SB Bowl - Santa Barbara CA

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 22:15:44 ET
Posted by: Gerald, R

Asia Bandmate Steve Howe also moonlighted as an MLB pitcher.

In addition to Howe, the Dodgers won the '81 World Series with Dave Stewart and Bob Welch on their pitching staff. Welch's best year was 1978. Hot off his hits Sentimental Lady and Ebony Eyes earlier that year, he had the big strikeout of Reggie in the World Series.

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 22:12:20 ET
Posted by: Abu, Thanks for Dean's Detective Work

Somehow I missed The Dean's detective work on the Do It Again song. I guess, at best, I might have clarified there are two different songs. Without a doubt, it is difficult to top DF & WB's songwriting skills.

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 22:06:11 ET
Posted by: Abu, Do It Again Times Two

Interestingly, it seems Phil Manzanera and John Wetton recorded two different tunes with the title Do It Again. One was on their 1987 studio album. That one was not written by DF and WB. Also appearing on YouTube is a vid recorded live that appeared on VH-1 apparently. Perhaps they realized their own tune could never be as good as the SD one, so they recorded the latter. Unfortunately, the video ends before the song is completed. (The other posted the other day doesn't seem to work), so here is the correct link to the SD cover:

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 20:38:27 ET

Whenever i read from this site I am constantly reminded how little I actually know about music, I thought John Wetteland was a former Major League relief pitcher.

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 18:36:10 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Miles got plenty of criticism for his foray into modern pop, at the time. That criticism has subsided quite a bit, over the years. I've never been a fan of his fusion/pop stuff. To me, his reputation was sullied by those recordings. I think Sonny Rollins "modern" jazz efforts were much better. Just IMO, of course.

And, great deceiver, if there are problems with the visa, why not just use Mastercard, Amex or, shudder, Discover? (Thank you, I'll be here all week.) Enough with the political bullshit (especially if it is delivered without wit, or snark).

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 16:34:07 ET
Posted by: the great deciever, sans visa

Now, in this far away land
strange, that the palms of my hands
should be damp with expectancy....

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 14:33:22 ET
Posted by: Gino F., agreeable

Lutz - Fair enough, although Miles definitely did get some criticism (and not just from so-called "purists") at the time for his interpretations of those then-current pop songs.

And I agree with you about looking "past the bombs as long as there is something creative somewhere in the catalogue". For me, when it comes to the late John Wetton, I do my very best to look past his connection to "Asia", since, for me anyways, that project just seems so at odds with everything that came before it.

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 13:54:26 ET
Posted by: Pleased to meet you, Man, Port Chester, NY

Here's one from last year-

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 13:40:32 ET
Posted by: Crowd Pleaser Man, UK

The excellent Stan Deely posted Steely Dan live at Pine Knob Amphitheater, Clarkston, MI 2003. I'd watch it whilst it's still there if I were you.

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 13:22:41 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

not to compare the two, but Miles was playing and recording Cindy Lauper and Michael Jackson in his later years and people didn't mind.
McLaughlin said he can do whatever he wants, he's done enough for music.
I find it not that hard to look past the bombs as long as there is something creative somewhere in the catalogue.

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 13:12:56 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, Harrisburg, PA

Gino you beat me to it, there have been many amusing things written on this board over lo these many years ( channeling WB)but none have made me laugh harder then The Dean's closing point in his last post!
IMHO anyway.

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 10:38:05 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Running around just quoting everyone, today

QUOTE: "If I'm Wetton, I'd rather sing to a bunch of screaming Japanese ladies as well for a while and get paid 10 times more."

As is your right. As was his right. Sometimes money makes people do some really unfortunate things to their own "art", though.

And I think the inferred description of the music of "Asia" as "music for screaming Japanese ladies" is sublime.

Lutz nailed it as well!

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 10:15:28 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Never gonna play shuffleboard on a big boat

QUOTE: "And kz(x3), a Steely Dan cruise? If you ever see that booked, get your affairs in order. That's when Walt and Don decide to just end it all, and take everyone on board with them."

The Dean nailed it. Again.

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 09:13:30 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

King Crimson's "Red" is also amazing and Wetton was involved with the writing. This guy was a lot more than a couple of cheesy Asia hits and their later stuff was fairly decent.
His booming voice an asset as well, he could carry a tune.
Blaming great musicians for going commercial or wanting to get a decent paycheck sometimes is mostly done by die hard fans who are hobby musicians themselves, no offense.
At the shows, with 50 of their like minded buddies, they second guess a lot of stuff and complain that tickets were a couple of bucks more than 3 years ago. Most of us have seen this.
Also there won't be a single woman in the crowd.
If I'm Wetton, I'd rather sing to a bunch of screaming Japanese ladies as well for a while and get paid 10 times more.

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 01:19:17 ET
Posted by: Shade, Houston TX

Sorry about that. I must have mistyped a letter or number on the link. Thank you Dean for correcting it. Isn't the video unintentionally campy? The only bright spot is Phil Manzanera's guitar solo. I kept laughing at the background singer on the left shaking his two maracas.

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 01:11:48 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

For me it was Larks Tongues in Aspic I remember Wetton for. My fave KC album. Along with my other favorite drummer Bill Bruford.

Date: Wed, February 01, 2017, 00:19:40 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach. Playing Catch-up

Well, I'm not familiar with Wetton's work with UK or, surprisingly, King Crimson. But if M/O/D/P and kx(x3), have good things to say about it, I'll assume it's worthwhile. Have to check it out sometime over the next few days.

That Do it Again cover with Manzanera was really no better (or worse) than that of a decent local bar-band cover version, IMO. The link supplied didn't work, so I had to do a search for it. First video result was this:

So I thought Shade was having a bit of fun with us. But then I discovered the video I think he/she had in mind:

So no disrespect to the dead, but everything about Asia and Journey (other than their first two albums) is garbage, IMO. As to who will fill Wetton's shoes in the upcoming Journey tour is, well, one of a thousand sound-alike hacks who like this crap. Didn't they have a contest to find their last lead singer?

Oh, and I'm also unfamiliar with Wetton's work with Holdsworth, so I really need to listen to that. Holdsworth work with Ponty was very good, IMO.

As for Fagen's interest in Jagger, I'd say it's minimal. He never brings Mick up himself. He just gives intelligent, and funny, answers. So he continues to get the question. But aren't most of those interviews a few years old? It isn't as if he is tweeting about him.

And kz(x3), a Steely Dan cruise? If you ever see that booked, get your affairs in order. That's when Walt and Don decide to just end it all, and take everyone on board with them.

Date: Tues, January 31, 2017, 23:55:52 ET
Posted by: Fudge, in bed

It's Mick Jagger. Donald seems to have some kind of obsession with Mick and loves watching him prancing and preening around the stage.

Date: Tues, January 31, 2017, 22:03:00 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I know he gets asked about it and all but, geez, Donald sure does like talking about seeing the Rolling Stones live, doesn't he?

Nothing against that, but it sure does seem to come up.

Date: Tues, January 31, 2017, 22:02:17 ET
Posted by: Shade, Houston TX

Hey! How come nobody has mentioned John Wetton's collaboration with Phil Manzanera? They covered Steely Dan's "Do It Again". Here's the promo video for it from VH-1:

Do you like it?

Date: Tues, January 31, 2017, 21:56:37 ET
Posted by: kzkzkz, NYCusoon

Another fan of John Wetton here who is not a happy camper today.
Loved his work in King Crimson; Red is a desert island disc for me. Also love the U.K. albums and actually enjoy quite a bit of the Asia catalogue. They were much better live than on their record company needing them to make that dollar releases.
In response to an earlier post, Billy Sherwood (bassist who took over in YES when Chris Squire died) had already been announced as the new bassist/vocalist in ASIA a few weeks ago when Wetton knew he wouldn't be able to play on the upcoming YES led cruise, Cruise To The Edge, and the upcoming tour opening for Journey. The only other bassist/vocalist in the ASIA history was when John had fallen ill in the early '90s and Greg Lake filled in on an ASIA tour in Asia. Alas, Greg died a few months ago as well.

Speaking of runs, PHISH announced a 13 night residency at Madison Square Garden this summer.

Hmmm.a Steely Dan cruise would be fun!

Date: Tues, January 31, 2017, 21:19:09 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

M/O/D/P: that must have been spectacular. He's a wizard live. I saw him on a solo tour down in Baton Rouge. Elegant shredding. After the show at a very small club/bar/restaurant, he sat down and had dinner with audience and take philosophy and answered questions for another 90 min. Amazing man.

I would think so re: fit with Dan, but remember Holdsworth played on a couple of Level42 albums and may have played some live gigs with them as a favor in the early 90s. He's adaptable...and D&W would give him space. AH respect the composition, without either a constraint.


3:40 and through If You Were Mine

Yeah here's a concert clip:


Perhaps Toto would have gone in this direction if Jeff hadn't passed. Mushanga's pretty good...

The stuff Holdsworth did with Tony Williams on Believe it is absolutely ridiculous. Fred, Proto-Cosmos. Wow

I could hear a solo like this on the back half of EMG...

and shredding to Trans-Island Skyway - it could work.

Date: Tues, January 31, 2017, 20:29:48 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, No Anarchy in the UK

The thing to remember about the band UK is that it arrived at a time when critics - and to a somewhat lesser extent, the rock music consuming public - had already long decided that "knowing how to play an instrument" was out, and "embarrassingly clownish & naĂŻve displays of political/social anger by incompetent musicians" was very much in. The band never had a chance, commercially, and that is why it went more-or-less unnoticed at the time, and also why it likely won't get much mention in any write-up about John Wetton's passing. I saw the original lineup only once, and it was nothing short of amazing. Wetton's voice was powerful and just raw enough - completely unlike his later "smooth" delivery style - and his bass playing was as good as it gets in rock music. Allan Holdsworth was frighteningly good, and all the great solos on the record sounded even better live. The handful of poorly recorded bootlegs from the time don't do the band any justice.

Doc, I'm not sure how anything Holdsworth ever did would work within the confines of Steely Dan, but I'd love to hear it nonetheless.

Date: Tues, January 31, 2017, 19:13:01 ET
Posted by: Ed, Lowell MA

I really hated Asia. Really overblown pretentious Styx-Journey type rock. Most of the press reports I've read don't even mention Wetton's work with UK.

Date: Tues, January 31, 2017, 18:49:56 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Bruford, Holdsworth, Jeff Berlin, the other Dave Stewart just after One of a Kind was released:

It would have been pretty cool to have Holdsworth, maybe with Krantz, playing with Steely Dan or on a record...there was some discussion many many years ago but nothing came to fruition. Someone here may remember that story...

Date: Tues, January 31, 2017, 18:43:47 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Noting another one

As Doc suggests, the first UK album is a really good record, and a fine example of Mr. Wetton's considerable talent.

Another - perhaps more obvious - project Wetton should be remembered for is the great King Crimson mid-1970s band. His bass & voice were major factors in defining the band's innovative and exploratory sound.

Quite literally everything about the band "Asia" was and is regrettable, in every sense of the word.

Date: Tues, January 31, 2017, 17:56:27 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Here's what John Wetton *should* be remembered for...that first UK album with legendary Allan Holdsworth, Bill Bruford, Eddie Jobson (Roxy Music)

Holdsworth solos are pretty epic on the eponymous debut...meshing nicely with Wetton's pulsating bass, Bruford's amazing fills...Wetton's vocals are a little less polished than on Asia - I like them better.

Holdsworth and Bruford left as Wetton grumbled about Holdsworth genius ad libs in concert...Terry Bozzio filled in on the 2nd album, which is decent, but I think of it as a transition to Asia. Holdsworth played with Buford on a fusion album or two, before his synth axe solo work.

Never really into Asia.


Date: Tues, January 31, 2017, 15:29:30 ET
Posted by: Not that I care, but

Date: Tues, January 31, 2017, 14:27:44 ET
Posted by: Spam, Tampa Florida

RIP John Wetton. Frontman/lead singer of rock band Asia. Also played with King Crimson. Asia was slated to open for Journey's upcoming tour next month. Who will fill John Wetton's shoes now?

Date: Tues, January 31, 2017, 04:20:11 ET
Posted by: Arnold, still awake in NY

Carolyn Leonhart fans! Carolyn will be singing at the Staller Center for the Arts in Stony Brook, NY on February 17. Carolyn will be with the Off Book/Out of Bounds rock show. More info at:

Date: Tues, January 31, 2017, 03:22:09 ET
Posted by: Jigsaw, Nevada

That new Steely Dan FAQ book by Anthony Robustelli arrives on February 7. I called Barnes & Noble books and that's what they told me. I wanna look through it before I buy it.

Date: Mon, January 30, 2017, 22:38:57 ET
Posted by: Wink, listening to Yasuko Agawa CD

Yasuko Agawa's rendition of Canadian Star sure beats Dr. Strut's bland & forgettable version.

Date: Mon, January 30, 2017, 22:18:46 ET
Posted by: Wink, watching old Moonlighting episodes

I really love Yasuko Agawa. She's a good jazz-pop vocalist. People don't know her here in the US.

Date: Mon, January 30, 2017, 21:52:05 ET
Posted by: Abu, Watching the Star from Canada

WB & DF wrote the tune Canadian Star, which we all know was never recorded by them, but by Dr. Strut in 1979. Also, Japanese singer Yasuko Agawa recorded a vocal version of the tune on her 1983 album Night Line. The lyrics (in English) evidently were written by one Ralph T. McCarthy, who is a writer, lyricist, and translator, who seems to specialize in Japanese-English stuff or vice-versa. Among other songs, he co-wrote the tune Tokyo Girl by the Swedish group Ace Of Base, the artist whose biggest hit was The Sign in '93. Another song is Love from Tokyo by Rita Coolidge. He possibly also co-wrote Paris Hilton's debut music single Stars Are Blind. Hard to know for sure about that one. One would think that Mr. McCarthy and/or Yasuko Agawa got permission from Don & Walt to add lyrics to the song, logically speaking. The song can be heard here:

The lyrics are included in the video description. Not so bad, IMHO.

Date: Mon, January 30, 2017, 19:12:32 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, The Torture Never Stops

Lutz - Or how about this exchange regarding the silly on-stage antics of Jagger & Company:

FAGEN: "...But I realize I've been embarrassed by their stage act since ..."

BECKER: "Since the '70s."

FAGEN: " me there's a real dissonance between what I'm seeing and the music I'm hearing, in their attitudes, in the poses they assume. It just always seems wrong. But that's true, it's been forever, almost. It's these kind of exaggerated poses, grimaces. It doesn't match what I'm hearing. I'm hearing some good rocking music and they're acting like assholes."

It would be great to see someone - maybe a journalist with Mr. Varga's abilities, hey, maybe Mr. Varga himself, again - get D&W to answer a bunch of good questions sometime during this summer's tour. Since it's looking more and more like we're not going to get any other "new material" from the pair anytime soon...if ever again...

Date: Mon, January 30, 2017, 11:54:51 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

M/O/D/P, how about Walter in regards to Eminem not winning the grammy they got that year:

Q: I'm assuming Eminem did not send you a Christmas card.
FAGEN: "No."
BECKER: "He usually sends one of those Harry & David fruit things, you know. Pears and oranges."

Date: Mon, January 30, 2017, 11:07:24 ET
Posted by: James , off to work

Looks like Steely Dan isn't going to change the name of the tour for the Summer. These two new shows aren't in casinos but they are still calling it Reelin in the Chips. Yes, more work for the road crew.

Date: Mon, January 30, 2017, 10:22:51 ET
Posted by: Gil, wherever I need to be.

I bet the road crew is thrilled with those additions.

Date: Mon, January 30, 2017, 09:58:46 ET
Posted by: sleepless, in long beach

Alert -
San Diego and SB shows announced

Date: Sun, January 29, 2017, 23:39:40 ET
Posted by: Meg, Los Angeles

The BlueBookers have been ignoring the immense talents of Donny Osmond. Here's a new video of Donny Osmond performing Steely Dan's "Peg" at a recent concert in Nottingham, England. Check out Donny's smooth dance moves and watch how he brings fans in the audience up onstage for photos:

You can be sure Donny will be at the Steely Dan shows in Vegas. C'mon, give Donny a chance!

Date: Sun, January 29, 2017, 19:15:18 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Additional Information Department

For those here with a severe "facebook" allergy - that Bottom 40 song on YouTube:

Date: Sun, January 29, 2017, 13:32:53 ET
Posted by: Agent Smith, CA

Go take a look at Keith Carlock's Facebook page. There's a video there of Language of Love by The Bottom 40 with Carlock on drums. Juicy old school soul funk.

Date: Sun, January 29, 2017, 11:34:30 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Not "reinventing" myself anytime soon, here or anywhere else

Lutz - Thanks for the 2003 San Diego Union Tribune interview. That was a good read, and one I don't recall seeing before either. The interviewer, George Varga, does a good job, and obviously D&W felt comfortable enough to give some interesting answers.

In the often musically dreary space between the mid 1980s and the time of the interview, every time a certain shallow, cartoony pop star switched hairstyles or outfits, some critic - or often all of them, unanimously - idiotically lauded the contrived image-manufacturing as "reinvention". Nice to see DF casually note the stupidity of it all.

QUOTE, DF: "...what's all so amusing is that, lately when you hear that, you hear that in connection with Madonna, which makes it especially laughable. She puts on a new hat and she's 'reinvented' herself...As if there was anything to reinvent in the first place."

The final exchange of the interview is a classic:

Q: Okay, last question. And not to intimidate you, but the best answer I ever got to this question was from Miles (Davis): How would you like to be remembered?

FAGEN: "I don't care; I'll be dead."

BECKER: "I don't know."

FAGEN: "My stepchildren aren't embarrassed by my memory, I guess. So it isn't a problem for them."

BECKER: "Fondly. What did Miles say?"

Q: He said, and I quote: "For not being white."

(Becker and Fagen look at each other in stunned silence.)

FAGEN: "We should've said that, too."

BECKER: "Can we change our answers?"

Date: Sat, January 28, 2017, 22:52:31 ET
Posted by: Atlas, making avocado/turkey sandwich

I think Walk Between Raindrops is the shortest solo song Donald Fagen has ever written.

Date: Sat, January 28, 2017, 18:40:31 ET
Posted by: Clete, R

Here's a great acoustic guitar interpretation of the organ solo on Raindrops.

Date: Sat, January 28, 2017, 13:30:17 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

THanks for the heads up, Clete.

We listened to Donald's trilogy boxed set last night, and most of the bonus tracks. Was particularly affected by 'Snowbound' per usual, especially the lyric in the bridge about Christmas Day.

The Two don't appear to be writing together any more, as they did briefly during the conception of this song, seven seconds of fun. I reckon we got seven years, from about 1995 through 2002, of new writing before the tail off, on top of the original 1967 through 1980 run.

What a run it was, though I wish they'd start jogging again.

Date: Sat, January 28, 2017, 05:35:49 ET
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Date: Sat, January 28, 2017, 04:55:17 ET
Posted by: Clete, R

Fagen commented on his (Hammond) organ use on Nfly.

Date: Sat, January 28, 2017, 02:55:31 ET
Posted by: Green Jeans, Rochester NY

I forgot to mention the clip down below also includes Steely Fan performing Rose Darling before Doctor Wu.

Date: Sat, January 28, 2017, 00:34:23 ET
Posted by: Green Jeans, Rochester NY

A tribute band based in the Netherlands called Steely Fan is going to be playing an unreleased Steely Dan song with the consent of Fagen & Becker on January 31:

Watch them play a mean version of Doctor Wu:

Date: Fri, January 27, 2017, 22:41:23 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

This might be old news but I never read it before.
Great interview from San Diego 2003 at Coors Amphitheatre.
Maybe my favorite show out of all.
You can tell they respect the interviewer, Becker is funny as hell and Donald is no slouch either.

Date: Fri, January 27, 2017, 21:21:00 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

We don't talk about Donald's solo in 'Walk Between the Raindrops' enough. Is there any other time he's peeled off straight organ, Jimmy Smith-styled organ, like that?

Don Fagen Jazz Trio.

Date: Thurs, January 26, 2017, 23:39:21 ET
Posted by: Josh, PA

This interview ends with a question about SD.

Date: Thurs, January 26, 2017, 21:10:59 ET
Posted by: Abu, Outside the Stadium

Time for true confessions. If I happen to glance at the time, and the clock says exactly 5 minutes past 6, does anyone (besides me) feel very compelled to sing the opening line of Glamour Profession? I just passed that time here on the Left coast.

Date: Thurs, January 26, 2017, 15:31:44 ET
Posted by: JoeM, CT

RIP Butch Trucks and MTM.

DF circa 1974...

"... Thank you, thank you very much - Denny Dias and Jeff 'Skunk' Baxter on guitar, Jeff Porcaro on drums, Jim Hodder on drums and vocals, Mike McDonald on keyboards and vocals, Royce Jones on keyboards and vocals, Walter Becker on bass and yours truly - Mary Tyler Moore... Thanks again and good night!"

Date: Thurs, January 26, 2017, 15:30:39 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Everything on the 2006 Fagen tour was great. Don was disappointed at the crowd draw, but arguably it was near or at the top of the tours (1993 for example).

Date: Thurs, January 26, 2017, 15:27:56 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, autocorrect posting alternative words


Date: Thurs, January 26, 2017, 15:27:09 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu , Left of the Rio Grande... Wall

Abu: Fantastic. Excellent soundboard recording and musicianship. Some of the chords in the intro are "alternate facts," but I'll check it up to artist expression. All their stuff is very nicely done.

I was thinking briefly about what W&F felt like under Nixon...and remember Nixon was a Keynsian and not really a social conservative, although he catered their vote.

So they flipped Richard and John in a very clever way on Kings. History questions, unlike the legend of Robin Hood - who was really the bad guy?

...and juxtaposed with the US transition in the 60s from JFK to Tricky Dick. Perspective being the operative word.

But Nixon and the kinda moderate 41 had some stealth...

Real time Now is more like a tank ran over Mary's Garden Door and blasted through her house...

Date: Thurs, January 26, 2017, 05:52:44 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Hearing "Steely Dan" do a live version of "Here at the Western World", the original version, is something that's on my bucket list.
I hope they surprise us and do that even if for only one day.

Date: Thurs, January 26, 2017, 01:26:08 ET
Posted by: Glue, listening to Donald Fagen shows

I was relistening to Donald Fagen's fast uptempo rendition of "Western World" from his 2006 Morph the Cat solo tour and I think it's better than the original slow version. I love the horn arrangement and the funky happy groove. Some people in the audience started to get up and dance at the show I went to. I think that's how Donald felt the song should be played.

Date: Wed, January 25, 2017, 20:00:46 ET
Posted by: Abu, Going Dutch

Hey NJPhil and DocMu, decent cover of Gaucho posted by the Doc. These guys are Dutch, or from the Netherlands, just in case someone doesn't know that it means the same place. They do a total of nine covers, one of them is DF's Maxine. They have two lead singers, both are not so bad. The band sounds good, with triple sax and trumpet player. Of course, Gaucho features Tom Scott on the original, so this cover features one of their sax dudes. The rest feature other members. Keyboard and trumpet both solo in Hey 19, for instance. They don't just do the Dan, but also Al Jarreau, Sting, Quincy Jones and others. Below are the nine SD/DF covers:

Date: Wed, January 25, 2017, 15:06:52 ET
Posted by: Sad, R

Donald Fagen is an ironist too. The pinched rectangular face of his photos, which has led to his being called "a rock & roll Victor Mature," in person turns out to be dominated by an alarmingly long nose, wide mouth and high forehead, giving him the aspect, perhaps, of a mad scientist. He no longer is introduced to audiences as Tristan Fabriani, but with his own band he still doesn't run it straight when it comes to introducing himself. Naming the members of "our little orchestra" from his seat at the piano, he winds up, "and yours truly ... Mary Tyler Moore." His irony is less in the razor blade and more nearly in the lanky, swallowing-his-words, country-western mode.

Date: Wed, January 25, 2017, 15:01:22 ET
Posted by: Lou G., Minneapolis

Rest In Peace, Mary Tyler Moore.
Dead at the tender young age of 80.

Date: Wed, January 25, 2017, 13:02:02 ET
Posted by: Duane, Up here

Rest In Peace, Butch Trucks.
The drummer and founding member of The Allman Brother's Band has died at the age of only 69.

Date: Wed, January 25, 2017, 12:32:35 ET
Posted by: Barry, Greenwich CT

All these Steely Dan cover bands sound about the same to me. Why can't somebody organize a tribute band called The Unreleased & Rare Steely Dan? The band would have to play only unreleased and rarely played SD songs. NO hits. Then I would pay to go see them. There should also be a Donald Fagen tribute band. NO Steely Dan songs. ONLY Donald Fagen solo tunes.

Date: Wed, January 25, 2017, 04:33:01 ET
Posted by: NJPhil, Philly

Thx Dr Mu. Not sure I could put up with the lead sax and vocalist for an entire show of Steely Dan covers, but this was interesting to say the least. Let's face it, those are lyrics you don't hear in most popular songs. Pretty amusing and off-beat. That is why we love Steely Dan.

Date: Tues, January 24, 2017, 22:06:36 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Sure, Steely Dan is the best (self)tribute band out there ;)...but deze guyz are pretty damn good.

If it's good to ya, it must be good for ya!

Date: Tues, January 24, 2017, 02:40:37 ET
Posted by: Parker, CA

Yes, Larry Carlton did play with Steely Dan in 2009 but he only appeared with them in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles. I was at the Los Angeles shows.

Date: Mon, January 23, 2017, 22:39:36 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

JB, they did that in 09.

Date: Mon, January 23, 2017, 18:51:55 ET
Posted by: Pez , Oakland CA

Here's a recent video of Jeff Skunk Baxter performing "A Touch of Grey" with Bob Weir & Friends last Friday at a NAMM show:

Skunk Baxter is sitting on his ass on the left side of the screen.

Date: Mon, January 23, 2017, 17:00:02 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

No offense to the legendary Larry Carlton, but Jon
Herrington's solo's are already one of the best parts of any
"Steely Dan" show. No need to push Jon aside.

Date: Mon, January 23, 2017, 16:09:17 ET
Posted by: JB, Princeton NJ

Would they let Larry Carlton sit in with the band? I'd go if they let Larry tackle the guitar solos on Kid Charlemagne, Don't Take Me Alive, Royal Scam, Third World Man, etc.

Date: Mon, January 23, 2017, 15:15:36 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Opener is probably going to be Larry Carlton, right? Why the hell not, let's do this.

Date: Mon, January 23, 2017, 14:46:56 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

"America" is currently touring with "Three Dog Night"...
I'd enjoy seeing them paired up with "SD" but I doubt it will happen.

Date: Mon, January 23, 2017, 13:56:54 ET
Posted by: Josh, TX

Steely Dan left America in 1977 to go out on his own, and America has been a duo instead of a trio ever since. No way America is going to open for him.

Date: Mon, January 23, 2017, 13:42:33 ET
Posted by: Showboat, NY

Rod Stewart picked Cyndi Lauper as his opening act for his tour this Summer. I wonder who will open for Steely Dan's Summer tour. Maybe America? Tin Man & Ventura Highway were my favorites.

Date: Mon, January 23, 2017, 13:10:31 ET
Posted by: Pez, Oakland CA

Somebody uploaded a 12 minute video of Larry Carlton's Saturday show in Arcadia, CA on YouTube:

As you can see, Larry enjoys playing a lot of blues these days.

Date: Mon, January 23, 2017, 12:45:21 ET
Posted by: Charles, NJ

Maple Syrup on those French Fries indeed.

Date: Mon, January 23, 2017, 02:01:29 ET
Posted by: Max, CT

Always loved Sanborn's sax on the Roger Waters track 4:50AM (Go Fishing) with Eric Clapton on guitar.

Date: Sun, January 22, 2017, 21:04:06 ET
Posted by: Ash, watching TV

David Sanborn is another sax star that could open for Steely Dan. Donald Fagen wrote and produced (with Gary Katz) a song called "The Finer Things" for Sanborn. It appeared on The King of Comedy soundtrack in 1983. It has a very lush string arrangement. Not many people know about it.

Date: Sun, January 22, 2017, 18:28:44 ET
Posted by: Ash, making coffee

Saxophonist Candy Dulfer & Steely Dan could put on a great show together. Candy's live shows are real high energy jazz-funk. Not smooth jazz like Kenny G. They say Candy sampled "Peg" on her song "Flame" but I can't hear it.

Date: Sun, January 22, 2017, 15:52:39 ET
Posted by: Murrow, DC

It was just a short statement, that all. Not meant to disrupt anything.

Rickie Lee Jones posted on her Facebook page that she and Madeleine Peyroux have recorded a tune or two and it will be up on YouTube next month. Steely Dan fans should be interested.

Date: Sun, January 22, 2017, 14:27:08 ET

Not to cause trouble Murrow ( Hoops), but that is relevant on a Steely Dan
site/board how?

Date: Sat, January 21, 2017, 20:21:14 ET
Posted by: Seaweed, Austin Texas

"Deep Cuts" have been eliminated from Steely Dan's tour press releases. The very last time it was used was on the 2011 Shuffle Diplomacy tour. So they aren't gonna play early tracks like "Sail The Waterway" or "Dallas". I love these two songs. They aren't "stinko" as Walter or Donald refer to them.

Date: Sat, January 21, 2017, 13:53:07 ET
Posted by: Val, USA

Hey Soft 19

I know you stand on 16 or more. But not if the dealer has 8.

Date: Sat, January 21, 2017, 12:32:23 ET
Posted by: Wilson, CA

I found a good article online entitled "Steely Dan's Best Songs About Gambling". It lists the ten best SD songs about gambling at the casinos. It was first published in July 2014 but it's relevant now that the Dan are playing Vegas. Link down below:

Date: Sat, January 21, 2017, 08:59:39 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

One more. Okay, two.

Sue Me If I Play Blackjack Too Long Tour

Any Man Left at the MGM Grand Tour

Date: Sat, January 21, 2017, 07:43:56 ET
Posted by: Carl, TX

Back in Vegas!

Reelin' in the chips falls so flat. I could see if they were playing brewery dates and it was Reelin' in the Beers. Or a NASCAR event and it was Reelin' in the Gears. Or a Gay Pride event and..

Date: Sat, January 21, 2017, 07:38:53 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

ok, I'll bite
'The Lost Wages Tour'

damn it

Date: Sat, January 21, 2017, 00:31:23 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Right - we'll do it for them. Get to work, Walt!

Bright Lights, Vice City Tour

The Royal Flush Tour (oops, taken already)

Milk and Honeys Tour

On the Table Tour

Coup de Gras Tour

Lay Down Your Jackson Tour

Three Pitcher Dealer Tour

Fragrant Opium Wild Gambling Tour

Loose for Dealing Tour

Casino Royale Scam Tour

Planet L'Hollywood Tour

Mandarin Oriental Plum tour

Mandalay Bay - Where the Cuban Gentlemen Stay Up All Night Tour

Date: Fri, January 20, 2017, 23:04:28 ET

I beg to differ Nich, methinks they are quite witty. # fwiw

Date: Fri, January 20, 2017, 15:48:12 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

I can't stop, even though they're bad

Elevator Six Deck Shoes Tour

Gangster on the Come Tour

Jack of Spades Tour

That is all

Date: Fri, January 20, 2017, 14:42:42 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Hey, Clive, how about

Case of Aces Tour

(See the Glory of) The Royal Flush Tour

The Full House on the Vineyard Tour

It's Raining Boxcars Tour

The Nights are Bright Tour

Sharing the Things Keno and Love Tour

Date: Fri, January 20, 2017, 13:56:20 ET
Posted by: Alkali, Sideways

indeed and stop regurgitating old songs,its embarrassing, stop it. just go back into the studio and get to work. I'm not going to another one of your concerts until you do.
in the words of our brave new world leader: MAKE STEELY DAN RECORD AGAIN

Date: Fri, January 20, 2017, 12:45:47 ET
Posted by: Boze, Down

They should be concentrating on writing some new songs instead of coming up with names for each tour.

Date: Fri, January 20, 2017, 07:12:12 ET
Posted by: Clive, up

Better names for the Vegas run:

Surf and/or Dice

Black Jack Do It Again

Hey 19 Red, Odd.

Turn that Hole Card Over Again

Bad Streakers

Date: Thurs, January 19, 2017, 22:10:09 ET

Well played Doc Mu, anytime one can read a Godfather quote, is a good time.

Date: Thurs, January 19, 2017, 21:38:25 ET
Posted by: Garo, Atlanta

Chip - "Most artists from Paul's generation don't do that." Heck, most artists of any generation don't do that, especially any from the last 15 years. They put out their debut album, 3-4 years later their next, maybe one more in 5 years, then call it quits.

Date: Thurs, January 19, 2017, 21:25:40 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Sony could have received a reasonable price for transfer and ending of their copyright...I hope they get nothing.

"My offer is nothing."

Because corporations write the laws (well known to D&W) contracts screwing artists were rampant...and that's when you could make a buck or two on songs or an album!

A strict constitution view would clearly side on the artist. Smart moving holding the case in the US. A judge or jury does not have to consider the outcome of the Duran Duran case.

A speedy trial with a jury would be ideal...expect major foot dragging by Sony. Classless act by the estate and will, not allowing McCartney/Beatles first access.

Date: Thurs, January 19, 2017, 16:01:13 ET
Posted by: Crowd Pleaser Man, UK

Dirk Radloff's cover of Peg (Steely Dan cover for string quartet and singer) >>

Date: Thurs, January 19, 2017, 14:55:38 ET
Posted by: Francis, protesting in NYC

Paul McCartney carries the weight of The Beatles legacy on his shoulders.

By the way, actor Robert DeNiro has joined Michael Moore's Anti-Trump protest rally and will be speaking in front of Trump Hotel, Central Park West, NYC at 6pm EST today. Come join us.

Date: Thurs, January 19, 2017, 13:07:01 ET
Posted by: Chip, Rockford Illinois

Paul McCartney is also set to release a new album this year. McCartney is pretty amazing. He continues to tour and perform for nearly 3 hours and then he goes in the studio to record new songs. Most artists from Paul's generation don't do that.

Date: Thurs, January 19, 2017, 11:19:36 ET
Posted by: Steve,

Macca has given notice to ATV/Sony music that he wants his songs back. If the US court case is successful, I wonder if Becker/Fagen will be able to eventually retrieve the rights to their early and mid 1970s ABC published songwriting from Universal Music.

Isn't there also something similar for recordings too?

Date: Thurs, January 19, 2017, 00:35:20 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

NYB: Nah, NJPhil would have referenced his Logic professor from Harvahhd 4-5 times by now...and pimped a few book chapters ;)

So, the Dan back to the scene of the original Art Crime and hit single.

Maybe next time, they'll finally use my tour name suggestion:

"The Citizen Candy Cane Convocation and Tour"

Who makes the craps table marvelous?

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 23:01:20 ET
Posted by: NYB, "In Search Of" with Leonard Nimoy

It's pretty apparent by now that NJPhil is ACTUALLY "Peter Q".

Also the name of the tour shall be "Reelin' In The Cheers!".

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 22:17:05 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

In the current issue of Premier Guitar magazine, Theresa Wayman of the all female band Warpaint says she wants to be in a Steely Dan cover band.

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 22:01:33 ET
Posted by: Fred, eating at In--N-Out Burger

Rickie Lee Jones' version of Third World Man is even slower than SD's Alive in America. It's on YouTube. People who posted in the comments section think it's horrible. I like Rickie Lee, but her cover of the song is really bad. I'm typing this on my smartphone so I can't post the link but it's really easy to find.

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 20:24:09 ET

FWIW: While The Sugar Tooth Ncdan Tour is an awful name (imho) the shows
were terrific, at least the ones I heard and saw (via DVD). As for the TWM
from the solo tour,methinks it was FKING otherwordly, no pun intended. in particular the version at the "Martha Wainwright show" was killer.

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 20:21:48 ET
Posted by: Abu, Right About Now

I meant to add the link to that Monkey House 2012 tune. I'll do it Right About Now. lol

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 20:16:19 ET
Posted by: NjPhil,

No Brewster, it's the NAME Sugartooth McDan Faboriginees etc etc etc etc that's forgettable. I was responding to the tour name post right before it. Like I demonstrated, I cant' remember the name. Tour was good .

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 19:18:18 ET
Posted by: Abu, WB Sound Alike?

The guitar soloist on the 2012 Monkey House Headquarters tune Right About Now, to me sounds a lot like WB's style. The guitarist is Mike Francis. Of course, this might have been intended by Don B, or Francis himself, or both. He does not appear on the 2016 Left.

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 18:50:53 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, left of the Rio Grande

Noble knocks Selfish Gene's skyline down:

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 18:46:49 ET
Posted by: Brewster, San Francisco, CA

I think after Keith Carlock joined the band they stopped playing "Third World Man" at the dead slow pace as heard on the Alive in America album. I could be wrong. I'm just looking at it from my memory. Now Jon Herington and Keith Carlock really give that song the extra propulsion that it needs.

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 18:19:21 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Anyone ever hear the '06 TWM? Krantz and Herington double the solo and it's glorious. Good tempo too!

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 17:31:47 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

To clarify, the "Alive in America" performance of "Third World Man" is lethargically paced compared to the original on "Gaucho".
I'd like to see this performed with them picking up the tempo a bit just to reach what they achieved on the record. I think that's what the original "TWM" posters also intended.

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 17:23:40 ET
Posted by: Brewster, San Francisco CA

Hey NJPhil. So you think the SugarTooth McDan tour was the least fav and least memorable? Pixeleen, Cousin Dupree, Any World (That I'm welcome To), Chain Lightning and Glamour Profession were on the setlists in several cities. Bonnie Raitt was a special guest at the Shoreline Amphitheatre show in Mountain View, CA. She came out and sang the lead vocal on "Dirty Work" with the band. I was there. Michael McDonald sat in and sang several songs with Donald at some shows. But I guess that's unmemorable to you, isn't it NJPhil?

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 17:03:32 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Of course Becker and Fagen have made "a living wage" since 2003. Nobody lost money on any albums, no matter how distant (in Becker's case) the record company. That's just a poor choice of words.

And nobody is accusing Donald Fagen of only being out for money. Just Steely Dan.

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 14:58:11 ET
Posted by: NJPhil,

I think you should work for free too, Sheldon. I Don't blame her.

I hardly think anything since EMG made a living wage for Becker or Fagen, although TAN and EMG were missed profit opportunities for all involved thanks to lousy promo by record companies.

For TAN, it started out good and then the record co fell down by not having enough CDs in stores the day after Eminenem was supposed to sweep the awards. I think Giant Records was bought by Warners right before the Grammys. EMG was like the record co thought "WHatever... " Or so it seemed to me.

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 14:52:11 ET
Posted by: NJPhil,

BTW: SugarTooth McDan, etc etc etc was by far the least fav and least memorable.

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 14:50:11 ET
Posted by: Sheldon, Manhattan

Yesterday Stevie Nicks said the reason she is reluctant to write new material is because "people aren't willing to pay for artists' work". She refused to write and record songs for a new Fleetwood Mac album so the other members carried on without her and recorded "Buckingham McVie" set for release in May. It's a duet album featuring Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie with help from the other Fleetwood Mac members. Stevie feels Fleetwood Mac should tour instead of making new albums. Money is now the motivational force for this multi-millionaire chanteuse. Did Donald Fagen make "Sunken Condos" just for money? I don't think so.

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 14:49:23 ET
Posted by: NJPhil,

So NYBill/PeterQ while i agree with you, do we need to have that kind of post on the SD page? Whats the connection. Give it a rest or hang out on the Wash Post site or something.

A candidate for a best tour name is "Perennial Favs, Refreshing Plays, Happy Returns"

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 14:20:47 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Ranking the Steely Dan Tour names (names only).

Leaving out tours named after albums/boxed sets.

12) Reelin' in the Chips
11) Think Fast!
10) Heavy Rollers
9) Tour 2K
8) Shuffle Diplomacy
7) The Dan Who Knew Too Much
6) Art Crimes
5) Rent Party
4) Jamalot Ever After
3) Rockabye Gollie Angel
2) Steelyard "Sugartooth" McDan and the
1) Mood Swings: 8 Miles To Pancake Day

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 12:54:31 ET
Posted by: Denny, Florida

Would you like "Third World Man" if they speeded up the tempo? Donald did that for "Here at the Western World" on his Morph The Cat solo tour. I think it ruined the song. You have to listen to TWM several times to fully appreciate it. At the shows, I hear from people who consider it their favorite SD song.

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 12:24:56 ET
Posted by: Alkali, this just in and out

you know its so satisfying to know that 3 months after the election there are still butt hurt limp wrists pissing and crying and unable to walk it off, ha. (that must have been a H-uuuge hard steely Don)

on a less happy note, I keep hearing the song TWM brought up here as if it merits praise, I simply can't find anything good about it, so there's that.

Date: Wed, January 18, 2017, 09:26:26 ET
Posted by: NYB, This just in!

“There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason it will never ever ever be fixed. It’s never going to get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you’ve got because the owners of this country don’t want that. I’m talking about the real owners now, the real owners. The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians, the politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls. They got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying. Lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want. They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fuckin’ years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you sooner or later ’cause they own this place. It’s a big club and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club."

- George Carlin

Date: Tues, January 17, 2017, 20:41:19 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

As per my post yesterday, Dandom Digest for Jan 1-17, 2017 is also now out and should be in your email box, if you subscribe, etc. If you don't see it, see the instructions in my post from yesterday, etc. etc. etc.

Topics include:

• On Sale Now! April Residency in Vega$ for Steely Dan
• REDUX: New SD Book Out Soon
• Glenn Frey on Becker & Fagen
• Dean Parks at Norman's Rare Guitars
• Garisto & Ware in NYC
• JazzTimes Q & A with Cat Russell
• Steve Kahn Interview
• Re: Larry Carlton on Gaucho (was Steve Kahn Interview)
• Re:(2) Larry Carlton on Gaucho (was Steve Kahn Interview)
• Latest from Howard Levy
• SomethingElseReviews on Monkey House
• Happy New Year

Thank you for your support.



Date: Tues, January 17, 2017, 20:07:36 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

TWM on AiA is a dirge. That's the point. I think it works nicely in an ominous way...Like a slo mo pan shot of explosions, collisions, and chaos.

I'm listening to mostly Erskine's fills and Ware on the vibes ...and naturally the harmonies. Bernhardt as usual blends in well with the rhythm section.

Date: Tues, January 17, 2017, 17:54:02 ET
Posted by: Niles, ready to go home

Elton John has just announced a Spring residency tour at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas in late April to early May. Elton will be doing nine shows just like Steely Dan.

Date: Tues, January 17, 2017, 17:25:40 ET
Posted by: PJ, Akron, OH

So when the Summer tour begins, Steely Dan will have to change the name to Reelin' in the Summer or Reelin' in the heat.

Date: Tues, January 17, 2017, 15:46:59 ET
Posted by: Denny, Florida

I was listening to "Third World Man" from the "Alive in America" album and it can't match the original. They slowed down the pace even more so it sounds extremely plodding and sluggish. Also, Drew Zingg's guitar solo lacks the emotional punch of Larry Carlton.

Date: Tues, January 17, 2017, 15:18:04 ET
Posted by: Denny, Florida

Quote from Jon Herington: "Hands down, my favorite solo from any Steely Dan record is Larry Carlton's Third World Man".

Date: Tues, January 17, 2017, 07:33:20 ET
Posted by: peteb, London

Horshack, Gino F - re. the Carlton solo on TWM/WYBTD: reminds me of the moment, many many years ago when someone put the newly released (and unknown to me) Gaucho on and shortly before the end of side 2 the Dan hit me like the proverbial train.

In the light of that, for me Carlton is the essential SD sideman. Something about his clinical, clear phrasing transcends the mundane in the exact same way that the great WB/DF songs do, stripped of all fuzziness and honed to perfection. Carlton's own solo work exhibits the same lovely clarity.

Gaucho may not be SD's finest hour, but anything that starts with Babylon Sisters and ends with THAT solo is still way up there...

Date: Tues, January 17, 2017, 01:57:33 ET
Posted by: Mt. Belzoni, Porland OR

For those lucky citizens of Dandom planning trips to Las Vegas for the "residency," I'd recommend a side trip to Zion National Park, about 2.5 hrs drive NE of Vegas and really spectacular.

Date: Tues, January 17, 2017, 00:26:47 ET
Posted by: Luke, Milwaukee

Glad to hear that there will be more shows this year.

My son has spontaneously become interested in Steely Dan, in no small part because of his guitar lessons. So he's looking forward to seeing them this year. Last year we had a schedule conflict with our travel plans and we were unable to take him.

This year, we can't do Vegas but those new shows give us hope for more chances later this year.

Some fans here sound tired of the shows, but remember there's always new fans just discovering the greatest jazz-rockers ever.

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 19:05:08 ET
Posted by: Gino F., another prediction comes true!

QUOTE: "Anon Steely Dan Guys."

And another sideways shot at the board. Or, more correctly, another cheap shot in a seemingly endless series. Collect 'em all...or just do a little Bluebook back-reading.

And all of us who post with a consistent handle are hardly "anonymous", unless it fits your bitter, unhappy narrative to post that sort of snotty accusation.

I might just decide to see what all the fuss is about Vegas, finally, this year. Another chance to see on of the best live bands on the damn planet might just be the excuse I've always needed!

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 18:35:47 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Lutz, nice detective work. In the front part of that second tier, in the center (where the empty space is likely the sound board) would be a good spot to sit, IMO. The sound is typically as good as it's going to get, there. I'll take your estimate at face value, as I'm not counting those seats. I'm a bit surprised they have hidden all that, normally accessible, information. I wonder if the red seats are a balcony or loge?

I believe The Pearl has about 2,500 seats. That's a reasonable size for a SD gig. I, of course, prefer something a bit more intimate. But it is what it is.

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 17:58:43 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

So, instead of taking issue with Steely Dan's continuing stasis, the real story here is what does and doesn't make up a "Las Vegas residency" (who the hell cares?), and a shot at the car (our family's second car) that we're keeping for my teenager to learn to drive next year.

Anon Steely Dan Guys.

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 17:37:22 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Dean, seems to be in the 2500 to 3000 range - which qualifies as 'intimate' in Vegas.

Usually the sound is great in these smaller venues which are built for music, not sporting events.

KD, they're not going to play smaller venues and reinvent themselves with all now songs.
Elder statesmen - SD brings out at least a hundred Thousand people every summer, make them happy, employ hundreds directly and thousands more at the venues.
They keep reminding the entertainment industry what live music at the highest level sounds like.
What is relevant in your book?
If Donald parked his Red Piano for a year on stage and hides his cold cuts and cheeseboard in there before he sings about dead blondes (according to Keith Richards) every night - would that be relevant.
Or if they could "Turn back time" or even crow Titanic songs for a year?
Oh yeah, that's relevant...

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 16:28:21 ET
Posted by: hoops, aka Jim, Chicago

Many times delayed, hopefully not way too overrated, the latest edition of the Dandom Digest went out in the past few hours. It covers October 28 (or 29)–December 31, 2016. The previous edition covered September 15-October 28, 2016. The next Dandom Digest will go out tomorrow and will cover January 1-17,2017.

The following are the subjects/headlines of the items in the latest newsletter:

• Donald Fagen in "Not Afraid" Video
• Donald Fagen: What Horror Movies Taught Him
• REDUX: DF in Slate: How Nuclear Fears Fueled the Counterculture
• New SD Book Out Soon
• WSJ on SD
• Followup SD Ref in Simpsons
• SPOILEResque: Q & A: Fagen Writing for New Album?
• Oh Hello DF
• Steely Danzig = Hell
•"How Steely Dan Composes a Song"
• Rare Topicality in DF album
• WSJ: Novelist Harlan Coben on Steely Dan
• Donald on Donald
• David Crosby Writing with DF?
• REDUX: King of Comedy Soundtrack Finally Out On CD
• Keith Carlock Backs Kennedy Center Honors
• Catherine Russell, "Harlem On My Mind" Gets Grammy Nod, MoreŠ
• SD Associates play Tony Bennett's 90th
• WENDEL in TECnology Hall of Fame
• She (Security Joan) Got The Steely Dan T-Shirts
• Monkey House Accolades
• Cat + Beas in December Jazziz
• EDM Peg Cover
• The Opposite of The Velvet Underground is Steely Dan
• Archives: NYT on Metal Leg
• RIP, Nigey Lennon
• SPOILER: CTE NYC Rolling Review
• Several Days In New York

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As always, thank you for your support and writings through the years, especially Pete and Shari, as well as Mr. & Mrs. Winterbottom, and especially thinking of Mark, Bill, and Fezzie, and purposely not to mention a couple of people who request anonymity.

Fly about as low, be so cool,


Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 16:12:47 ET
Posted by: Barney Beacon, NJ

Dean- Because if DF or WB aren't writing the book, how much more info can we possibly be getting? Sweet's book was a lot of guess work.

The reason I changed my tune abou Robustelli's book is because I found out it is being distributed by the same people that put out the FAQ series about The Who. Which I enjoyed.

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 15:38:43 ET
Posted by: Lloyd, CA

I don't see any album or rarities nights for this 9 show Vegas residency run. Ticket prices are $63-$206 plus Ticketmaster's exorbitant service fees.

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 14:34:51 ET
Posted by: Johnny, F

The original Vegas residency.

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 14:10:45 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Not at all surprised, as usual

Something a little different gets announced, and the usual suspect predictably craps all over it & the band itself, again. As usual. It must be really depressing to always be so down about the things you claim to like. As if admitting to driving an old Corolla isn't depressing enough...

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 13:53:11 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Yeah, a residency in Vegas can be a years long affair. Which would arguably be much sadder than setting up shop for a couple weeks. (I also doubt that's something they would ever want to do.)

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 13:40:37 ET
Posted by: I'll answer, That

He means that it's nothing like a Celine Dion or Elton John Vegas residency.

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 13:21:00 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

KD said:

"A casino residency. But not really a residency because they can only secure a couple of weeks worth of dates."

What the fuck does that mean? Ten dates, over two and a half weeks, isn't enough time to call it a residency? Preposterous.

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 13:13:03 ET
Posted by: popegreg, Packerland


Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 12:21:24 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Last year, my wife surprised me and got us 2 tickets to attend the Steely Dan/Steve Winwood show here in Tampa.
It was my 5th "SD" concert but my first since 2007. I had
heard all the complaints here on the Blue about the "static" set list
so I wasn't sure what to expect.
"Aja" which isn't one of my favorite songs...completely blew me away. That alone was worth the price of admission and was arguably the best song of the night. "Black Cow" as always is superb. They had a couple of deep cuts in there..."Show Biz Kids" which I never cared for but "Razor Boy" was truly a joy to hear live.
My wife, never a big "SD" fan, said she now understood why
I was so into "Steely Dan". She could hear the greatness and I felt
that "Steely Dan" was still a relevant band because I was so moved by the music.
So say what you will about casino's or set lists, when the music starts there's no band like "Steely Dan". They are still da' best.

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 12:05:00 ET
Posted by: Griff, stage left

I still respect that they do what they have to do to make a buck, as disappointing as it is to hardcore fans. Technology initially gave them a financial windfall when the CD was introduced and their back catalog sold well. That revenue stream has no doubt been decimated.

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 11:53:52 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

A casino residency. But not really a residency because they can only secure a couple of weeks worth of dates.

Steely Dan is an irrelevant nostalgia act.

They do not create new music. They play the hits to an aging audience, trotting out the same show they've provided for a decade now, only interested in adding to the bank account instead of the legacy despite GREAT demand from non-boomer audiences for new music.

Even shitty bands like Toto put out new albums. Steely Dan can't be bothered to do as much.

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 11:30:07 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Big Vegas run. Wow. Thanks for the news, Chris, and Hoops! Anyone have any info on the Opaline Theatre? Seating Capacity/Chart, for example? Can't seem to find it, quickly, with a Google search. Unusual.

Pete, thanks for the clarification on the Robustelli book. I have no interest about the celebrity gossip stuff. But remain interested in learning more about the music, and who contributed. Based on your recommendation, I expect it to be a good one.

Barney Beacon, you've come quite a long way, with respect to the new book. You assured us, on 11/28/16:

Brian Sweets book was ok. Anthony Robustelli's will not be anywhere as good. It's basically going to be a "FAQ" thing.

After I suggested you may want to hold off on reviewing something you haven't read (and noting the good reviews of others in the FAQ series) you responded with this on 11/30/16:

Dean- You will be disappointed. The book will not have any new insight on the band or the inner working of B&F. Plus, either were interviewed for the book. It's going to be the same shit we all know.

On the same day (11/30/16) you rebuffed Skunk Bait's prediction the new book would be better than Sweet's:

Skunk Bait- This is so far off it isn't even funny!

Then a month later, after an old NY Times Story on Metal Leg was posted here, you completely changed your tune:

I read recently that Pete Fogel wrote the forward to that new Steely Book by Anthony Robustelli that's coming out in February. Looking forward to reading it!

And, miraculously, on 1/14/16, you are now a big fan of the FAQ series:

This is great!! The FAQ series of books is pretty good! The one for The Who had some good information about unique music available on one of their Japanese releases. I hope the SD book can be as enlightening, or even more so ...

What spurred your turn around?

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 10:37:35 ET
Posted by: Pete Fogel, NYC

Heads up on that new SD book. If you're expecting tales from the road in the 70's and/or who Skunk Baxter and Donald were sleeping with, you will be disappointed. It's basically a book that covers all the SD, DF and WB recordings and goes into full detail about the players on each tune. There's no new shattering info that will blow you away. Nevertheless, a good read.

Date: Mon, January 16, 2017, 10:07:09 ET
Posted by: Chris E, -

Steely Dan has announced ‘Reelin’ In The Chips’, a nine night residency set for this April at the Opaline Theatre at The Venetian Las Vegas. American Express Card Members can purchase advance tickets beginning Jan 17 at 10am PT. Tickets will go on sale to the public on Jan 20 at 10am PT.

Click here for a full list of dates:

Date: Sun, January 15, 2017, 15:26:34 ET
Posted by: Rob, Brooklyn

Wow! Rick Wakeman of Yes sure is prolific. He just released a new album called Piano Portraits. It's his 100th solo album! Rick releases anything. A lot of his solo CDs are sappy New Age muzak. They sound like Yanni.

Date: Sat, January 14, 2017, 17:02:47 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

The FAQ book is available for pre-order on Amazon for about $15. What a great way to start 2017! Thank you Pete Fogel for the heads-up.

Date: Sat, January 14, 2017, 16:48:46 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Here's an idea!

How about we wait to see what the book is before we begin complaining about it or wringing our hands about it or criticizing it without benefit of a pre-read?

I figure if Pete Fogel is involved with the project, the book automatically has merit. Anyone else here have better SD bona fides? Anyone? I didn't think so...

Date: Sat, January 14, 2017, 15:43:07 ET
Posted by: Barney Beacon, NJ

Heathcliff - This is great!! The FAQ series of books is pretty good! The one for The Who had some good information about unique music available on one of their Japanese releases. I hope the SD book can be as enlightening, or even more so ...

Date: Sat, January 14, 2017, 14:13:36 ET
Posted by: Heathcliff, US

"All That's Left To Know About This Elusive Band" is a little cliche. Does anybody really expect that? I hope to be proven wrong within reason.

Date: Sat, January 14, 2017, 12:17:54 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

That's great news, Pete!
Did Walter and Donald have any direct involvement in the book?
It seems like Hal would be one of those selected few with direct access to them.

Date: Sat, January 14, 2017, 11:57:50 ET
Posted by: Pete Fogel, NYC

Hey guys.....This is great. I remember when I was trying to talk Jim into starting the Bluebook, it must have been close to 20 years ago. So many members/posters have come and gone over that time. I'd have to say that over those 20 years, this is the most knowledgeable group of SD fans that Ive seen posting in this forum. Great stuff! Kudos to Hoops for keeping it up and maintaining it.

I had the pleasure of being asked to write the foreword for a brand new book about the Dan. It's coming out Feb 2 and is published on Backbeat Books by Hal Leonard. The book is written by award winning author Anothony Robustelli whose book ' I Want to Tell You: The Definitive Guide to the Music of the Beatles Volume 1', received critical acclaim. So, look for :Steely Dan FAQ: All That's Left To Know About This Elusive Band" out February 2.

Date: Sat, January 14, 2017, 08:26:38 ET
Posted by: Gil, W

Here's Dean Parks strumming a few of his SD hits.

Date: Sat, January 14, 2017, 07:13:04 ET
Posted by: Gordon, sipping morning coffee

David Crosby has just released a new political protest song called "Capitol". Guitarist Dean Parks plays on it. Listen to it at

Date: Fri, January 13, 2017, 14:24:33 ET
Posted by: Dobbs, in chilly Boston

That's too bad. I really like Walter's guitar solos on the title track of the Gaucho album.

Date: Fri, January 13, 2017, 09:40:46 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I get the feeling, on the heels of his shit-hot playing on FM and Josie, that Gaucho was supposed to be more of a Becker guitar album. Those rusty strings on the Duo-Sonic.

Some stuff got in the way.

Date: Thurs, January 12, 2017, 23:15:50 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Sanibel Island, for a few more hours...

The funny part is that Larry Carlton didn't actually play on any of the Gaucho sessions. Third World Man originally began life as Were You Blind That Day? (I'm sure most reading here already know that, but I mention it for the benefit of those who may not), which was recorded (but possibly not completed and definitely not released) for either Aja or The Royal Scam, depending on whose version of the story you believe. Carlton often talks of being surprised to find out that he was even on the album, and that he found out only after its release when people called him to tell him how great his solo was.

Having said that, I agree that any record with more Larry Carlton on it is probably going to be better than a record with no Larry Carlton on it.

Date: Thurs, January 12, 2017, 21:54:09 ET
Posted by: Horshack, Culver City, CA

I always wished they used Larry Carlton more on the Gaucho album. Everybody loves his guitar solo on Third World Man. Larry makes any Steely Dan cut sound better. Steve Khan's guitar solo on My Rival is good too.

Date: Thurs, January 12, 2017, 21:19:16 ET
Posted by: Abu, Illegal Fun Under the Sun

Article interviewing Steve Khan about his guitar work on Gaucho.

Date: Thurs, January 12, 2017, 01:30:13 ET
Posted by: Gabe, NJ

Chris Christie is tight with B street. He's definitely behind it.

Date: Thurs, January 12, 2017, 01:08:47 ET
Posted by: Lefty, CT

I just read Trump has booked The B Street Band to play at his inaugural N.J. ball on January 19. They are a Bruce Springsteen cover band. Hahaha! What a schmuck.

Make cover bands great again.

Date: Wed, January 11, 2017, 21:43:56 ET
Posted by: NYB,

"I'd rather be pissed on than pissed off".

President Dirty DJT

Date: Wed, January 11, 2017, 13:42:29 ET
Posted by: Sonny, Portland OR

There's a Steely Dan tribute band based in Seattle, WA called Nearly Dan too. Two different tribute bands are using the same name.

Date: Wed, January 11, 2017, 12:57:07 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland

Don't completely disregard those UK Nearly Dan dates!

If you're in the UK and you need a fix of live Dan then a great night can be had.

I'll be at the Oran Mor gig in Glasgow which is now something of an annual event. In the 10 years I've been going to see the Nearlies they never disappoint and I'd say that they pull in a bigger crowd each year purely by word of mouth and reputation. This is their 20th anniversary tour

here's a link to their webpage for more dates:

Date: Wed, January 11, 2017, 10:27:32 ET
Posted by: Randy, TX

I researched further and found that those are dates for Nearly Dan. Disregard post below.

Date: Wed, January 11, 2017, 10:20:24 ET
Posted by: Randy, TX

The past dates are accurate. Are the upcoming ones? Carlock is in Pennsylvania on Apr 2 so I doubt it.

Sat Apr 01 2017 Steely Dan Oran Mor - Glasgow, United Kingdom
Sun Apr 09 2017 Steely Dan Jazz Cafe - London, United Kingdom

Date: Wed, January 11, 2017, 09:10:04 ET
Posted by: Mr mark, usa

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Date: Tues, January 10, 2017, 22:28:25 ET
Posted by: NJPhil, Here

NYBill/PeterQ is so cute when he posts birthday wishes in initials.

Date: Tues, January 10, 2017, 22:18:35 ET
Posted by: NYB, The Magnificent One!


Date: Tues, January 10, 2017, 11:25:13 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

"Bloated, pompous, awful..." that sums up Bono and U2 very nicely, Gino.

Happy Birthday, Mr Fagen.

Date: Tues, January 10, 2017, 08:26:37 ET
Posted by: Lyle, F

Happy Birthday DF. Now when someone tells him to act his age, he can go dow..

Date: Tues, January 10, 2017, 00:24:45 ET
Posted by: Herb, NY

Good early morning. Today is a very special day. You know him, you love him, you can't live without's Donald Fagen's birthday! Happy Birthday, Donald!

Date: Mon, January 09, 2017, 23:57:51 ET
Posted by: Gino F., You too?

I see where you're coming from, Dean, but look at it this way: a plea for everyone to not financially support a bloated, pompous, awful act like Bono & Co. might, if it works on enough people, be just what it takes to make that pointless stadium-playing monstrosity disappear from the public eye.

I know...wishful thinking...

Date: Mon, January 09, 2017, 22:25:06 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Yes, anonymous poster, that Mighty Mouse remix was truly horrid. A complete abomination. Try posting with a consistent username.

And Wayne, while I wouldn't be caught dead at a U2 concert, why do you say "please don't go"? Just because you didn't enjoy something, why plead for others, who might enjoy it, to boycott it? What's in it for you? Chances are, those who enjoy U2's garbage are used to them performing in arenas, and might actually enjoy the crappy music they play--as weird as that may sound to us.

Date: Mon, January 09, 2017, 21:48:36 ET
Posted by: Wayne, Sacramento CA

U2 is also going to play at the big baseball stadiums on their Summer tour this year. Please don't go. I saw them once. The tickets are overpriced and they are very boring. Almost fell asleep. I couldn't wait to get back home.

Date: Mon, January 09, 2017, 19:19:33 ET
Posted by: Over there,

in Terrytoons they do things very strange.

Date: Mon, January 09, 2017, 19:10:29 ET
Posted by: That was, awful

Someone needs to take that cute little Terrytoons character out behind the woodshed and explain to him that caking up a really good song with goofy electronica & obnoxious artificial noodling is NOT OK. Imagine what this guy might do if he got his hands on a Renoir or even a Van Gogh? False moustaches & glasses all over the damn place...all in the name of "art". Jeez.

Date: Mon, January 09, 2017, 17:34:23 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Mighty Mouse 'Time Out of Mind' remix:

Date: Mon, January 09, 2017, 14:20:27 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Almost Gothic has a nice sweet/sour ending.

Yeah, Walter's songs are almost all fadeouts. Three Picture Deal: that's a nice one with an interesting outtro. The Dean Parks/Adam Rogers insane dueling guitar solos in the outtro are genius - a highlight of 11 ToW.

Not an interesting outtro, but 11 ToW outtake Lies I Can Believe In is worth a listen

Date: Mon, January 09, 2017, 13:44:22 ET
Posted by: Bones, at work

I can't think of anything worse than sitting in a noisy crowded baseball stadium watching Billy Joel perform.

Date: Mon, January 09, 2017, 11:15:32 ET
Posted by: Pat, Dallas Texas

Fleetwood Mac are planning to release a new album this year. They haven't made an album since 2003 just like Steely Dan.

Date: Mon, January 09, 2017, 08:53:32 ET
Posted by: Vaughn, TX

The post about Billy Joel was a joke.

Date: Mon, January 09, 2017, 06:37:51 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Walt's song "Three Picture Deal" is awesome. I wish it
had been on a "Steely Dan" album as more people would have heard it
that way.

Date: Mon, January 09, 2017, 05:37:29 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Tampa, FL

They call Alabama the Clemson Tide,
Someone's gonna lose.

Date: Mon, January 09, 2017, 00:55:28 ET
Posted by: Juan, Ohio

Billy Joel is a very overrated singer-songwriter. A few of his songs are OK but the bulk of his output is pretty mediocre.

Date: Sun, January 08, 2017, 23:54:39 ET
Posted by: Mt. Belzoni, Portland OR

Billy Joel fills stadiums and large arenas. Steely Dan fills medium sized theaters and music sheds. Merits of their music aside (though they have some pronounced similarities and differences), BJ is not going to open for anyone, let alone SD.

Date: Sun, January 08, 2017, 20:19:34 ET
Posted by: Mose, tired

I notice nobody has mentioned any of Walter Becker's songs from his two solo albums. I guess most of his songs have fade out endings or maybe a lack of interest in 11 Tracks of Whack & Circus Money. I admit I don't listen to them too often.

Date: Sun, January 08, 2017, 18:16:03 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

To include outtros - lunch with gina is fantastic. Sassy horns.

and for one that's finis...hard to top Greenbook (although there is a needless semi fadeout as Rhodes is reverberating and decaying)

Pixeleen - as mentioned Charlie's ad lib stunned the band and it just fell apart. D&W just left it in.

Date: Sun, January 08, 2017, 14:19:17 ET
Posted by: And the hits, ....

RIP Nat Hendoff.

Date: Sun, January 08, 2017, 09:24:04 ET
Posted by: Kreg, J

The song that keeps changing its mind about wanting to end.

Date: Sun, January 08, 2017, 01:26:04 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Outside of Steely Dan, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a Steely Dan it's too dark to read. Wait. What? How did Groucho get in here?

Bert, I'm not a big Who fan, but early Who is pretty good shit, IMO. Won't Get Fooled Again is a terrific rock song, with a memorable ending.

Just off the top of my head, I'll throw this into the "great finite song endings" (yes, I think that is redundant), in other words, ending without fading out. Old timers here know my weaknesses:

Actually there are multiple great endings here, as it is a continuous flow of four songs. The final final (a great bar in San Francisco, BTW) is fantastic. This is particularly true, if you listen to the entire album, on a good stereo, at an appropriately loud volume. But I think this four-song flow should give you the basic idea.

If you are looking for the full experience, the entire album is here:

Date: Sat, January 07, 2017, 23:41:02 ET
Posted by: Bert, at home in Jersey City

Outside of Steely Dan, wouldn't "Won't Get Fooled Again" by The Who rank as the No. 1 rock song with the greatest ending? The lengthy synthesizer solo, Keith Moon's drum solo and Roger Daltrey's famous manic scream at the end still packs a wallop. Of course The Who and Steely Dan are worlds apart musically, but it was one of my favorite songs when I was very young in the '70's.

Date: Sat, January 07, 2017, 13:30:25 ET
Posted by: Kip, Malibu, CA

I guess you can include the entire Alive in America abum by Steely Dan since none of the songs have fade-out endings.

Date: Sat, January 07, 2017, 13:14:37 ET
Posted by: µ,


Date: Sat, January 07, 2017, 13:14:09 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

JP: What a Fool Believes and Losin' End. Takin' it to the Streets (decades before Ferguson, because the sone is about Ferguson - some things down't change over time), Losin' End, It Keeps You Runnin'. What a trio of great songs right off the bat for MM and the McDoobies.

Dean: Don't care. My list stands ;)

Turn That Heartbeat Over Again has an ending. It's not interesting. The instrumental break is, though, and portends things to come.

Date: Sat, January 07, 2017, 13:03:24 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Constantly shocked that, in 2017, people still don't know how to link directly to a particular page on a site. But thanks for the tip, Shane. Here's the actual link:

Very Motownesque.

Mu, Kid C, Not the Same Without You and Negative Girl are "fade out" endings. Specifically not what Abu was asking about. The others are spot on, and great choices, IMO. As is Don't Take me Alive. How about some Razor Boy love? Too simple for y'all?

Date: Sat, January 07, 2017, 12:42:05 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

I'm with you, Bookkeeper's Son, that is a fantastic ending. And it's also a great example of the art of song order on an album. You can't listen to the end of DTMA without waiting for the opening notes of Sign in Stranger. It is a perfect "what comes next." To me, both songs are better when listened to together.

Date: Sat, January 07, 2017, 12:26:59 ET
Posted by: Shane , Boston

Michael McDonald has recorded a new song with Brian Owens & the Deacons of Soul. It's called "For You". Listen to it at It's a Motown-sound type song. Michael loves Motown.

Date: Sat, January 07, 2017, 09:00:16 ET
Posted by: James, P

This song not only ripped off What a Fool Believes, but also the signature Mike McDonald c. 1979 look.

Date: Sat, January 07, 2017, 03:07:01 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Best Endings:

Throw Back the Little Ones - Omartian ad lib
Pixeleen - Bill Charlap ad lib
Kid C - LC semi ad lib
Parker's Band - Hard Bop It
Negative Girl - dueling rhythm guitar heaven
Not the Same Without You - round and round we go...

Date: Sat, January 07, 2017, 01:22:04 ET
Posted by: Abu, In The End: Love you take=love you make

A couple more nicely done SD song endings: Parker's Band and another tom-tom ending: Charlie Freak.

Date: Fri, January 06, 2017, 18:27:09 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, with a cold

Some have emailed about the Dandom Digest. Due to a bad cold, this is delayed until around January 8-10, 2017. Thank you for your patience.



Date: Fri, January 06, 2017, 18:22:19 ET
Posted by: Robin, Clearwater FL

Hey, gang! Steely Dan came in No. 78 in Pollstar's Top 200 tours for North America in 2016. The average gross was $436,111 with 228, 596 tickets sold. Full results are at

Date: Fri, January 06, 2017, 16:17:27 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

Easy one, my favorite non-fade out Dan song is Don't Take Me Alive!! A great song with a great ending.

Date: Fri, January 06, 2017, 13:29:32 ET
Posted by: Abu, No Fading

OK, thanks for a few of your fave endings. However, I should have been more clear. Songs that fade out, like Doctor Wu and Kid C, however great Larry's guitar or Mr. Woods' sax are in the outro, they don't count. I'm looking for songs that actually end, with no fade. Buzz, Nightfly, Morph Reprise (ending with the opening notes of IGY), and Throw Back and Rose Darling all qualify. Keep them coming.

Date: Fri, January 06, 2017, 13:18:58 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Max, ignore the Billy Joel talk. He was NEVER in consideration as an opener for SD. They share no real musical synergy. Seriously, the idea of BJ and the Dan in concert together, is preposterous.

Date: Fri, January 06, 2017, 12:54:26 ET
Posted by: Max, PA

I don't understand the appeal of Billy Joel. He hasn't recorded a studio pop album since 1993. Yet he continues to draw crowds at huge baseball stadiums. His songs don't do anything for me.

Date: Fri, January 06, 2017, 10:59:26 ET
Posted by: Vaughn, TX

Billy Joel has announced a stadium tour for the summer. Scratch him as a potential SD opener.

Date: Fri, January 06, 2017, 10:19:02 ET
Posted by: Tweet, BlueBirdieByeBye

Michael Leonhardt will be interviewed this morning on @littlewaternyc at South Street Seaport) to discuss…

Date: Fri, January 06, 2017, 09:14:40 ET
Posted by: Jon, Y

My favorite ending is Through With Buzz. It mercifully arrives at the 1:34 mark and puts me out of my misery.

Date: Fri, January 06, 2017, 05:44:21 ET
Posted by: Buford, San Francisco

I love it whenever Steely Dan performs Do It Again at the shows. Keith Carlock always ends it with a kick-ass drum solo for a big rousing climax.

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 23:05:53 ET
Posted by: Buford, San Francisco

Has anybody mentioned Kid Charlemagne yet? Dig Larry Carlton's blazing guitar solo at the end. One of the best ever!!

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 22:18:18 ET
Posted by: lovethisgig, Atlanta

Ok I'll bite. Great song endings. The Nightfly, Morph reprise, and maybe the best, Throw Back the Little Ones, which also ends the album.

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 22:16:36 ET
Posted by: Ham, eating pizza

I vote for Doctor Wu.

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 21:55:50 ET
Posted by: Workaholic,

Best ending is West of Hollywood. That is all.

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 21:02:12 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Abu, I'll throw in Rose Darling. Quick, harmonic, painless.

SD does the fade out better that anyone, though. They so often throw in a guitar riff or piano run that could have been a featured piece of the song but instead is subtly thown in the outro, leaving us to wonder what might have been. Did they keep playing in another dimension that we mere mortals can't hear, and are they playing there still? Royal Scam and King of the World are but two of many fine examples.

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 17:09:12 ET
Posted by: Abu, An Art not to leave out words

"An art to write a good ending".

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 17:04:21 ET
Posted by: Abu, All That Ends Well

Enuff, already.

So, I was thinking about SD (or DF/WB) songs that end. In other words, songs that don't fade out. I have always said, it is an art write a good ending of a tune. It is kinda funny, when performed live, an ending is inevitable. What is/are your fave ending/s? To name a couple of mine: Keith Carlock's sudden tom-tom conclusion of The Last Mall. Or, the great horn blast at the end of Green Flower Street. Any others?

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 15:56:11 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Part of "this crew", apparently

KD - Why do you always play the perpetually offended guy on here? Are you really that brittle & delicate? This isn't life or death, pal.

Only three posters even commented on your "trifle". Would you prefer that no one comment at all on your posts, for fear of upsetting you? And how are we supposed to know when you're trifling, and when you're "serious"?

Your habit of posting here and then dismissing the Blue offhand/outright - as though a handful of posters who share an opinion actually represent the entire board & its readership - as you so often do, well, that act has been pretty tiresome for a hell of a long time. And really, much of what has appeared to offended you or has set you off over the years, including last night's small handful of posts, strikes me as mostly tongue-in-cheek stuff. Don't you get that kind of material? And if the answer is, "no", why are ya here??

Somebody had to say it...

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 12:57:51 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Oopsville!

Should have read:

Remember, the unexamined life isn't worth living. And the unexamined shared trifle, is likely to be examined by those of us who actually think about the things we encounter. And then commented on, right here, on The Blue!

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 12:26:38 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

KD, we DID treat it as a trifle. But we also noted a HUGE issue with that trifle---and said something about it. It seems obvious, it was meant to show those who DIDN'T know bands, were old, and out of touch. And, perhaps, those who knew all or most, of the bands were young and, perhaps, hip. Got it.

The only reason it became an issue at all, is because you passed it along without commenting on this oddity. Did you simply miss the flaw? Or are you in the habit of just passing along bullshit you see, even if you don't understand the bullshit? If I was going to make a trifle of a test, one might be: What percentage of email/tweet/Facebook bullshit you encounter, do you simply forward, without examining/understanding? I think the ages of those scoring a very high percentage are likely under 30 (or so) or 75+.

Remember, the examined life isn't worth living. And the examined shared trifle, is likely to be examined by those of us who actually think about the things we encounter.

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 11:24:20 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

It's supposed to be a trifle, people. For fuck's sake.

Bloody hell, this crew. Never let them see you eating watermelon.

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 03:13:16 ET
Posted by: Jimmy, Texas

Reality check: No new SD album this Summer.

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 03:00:11 ET
Posted by: Stevie Dan, Philly

@ Don Breithaupt Couldn't agree more! New album over a summer tour would be my preference too.

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 02:56:33 ET
Posted by: Stevie Dan, Philly

@ Cecil Thanks for sharing the Glen Frey/Sd youtube piece. Very interesting.

Date: Thurs, January 05, 2017, 01:37:20 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

I'm with M/O/D/P. Is there a prize for losing? I've heard of 15, maybe 16 of the artists.

Is Coachella live live or Mariah Carey live for some artists?

I do remember rage fans at near riot because Crowded House (on a comeback tour) dared play in 2007.

Can't imagine this went over too well. lol

DonB; Hear, Hear!

Date: Wed, January 04, 2017, 23:13:21 ET
Posted by: bobbo, droppin' down here, boss

Birdie, goodbye; birdie bye bye.

Date: Wed, January 04, 2017, 23:10:19 ET
Posted by: Swan, San Diego

Huh? This version of Do It Again is not the one written by Fagen/Becker. It's a completely different song. It was written by Pia Perez and other writers. Anyway, this song is shit.

Date: Wed, January 04, 2017, 21:41:35 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Scraping the bottom of the YouTube Barrel

Wanna hear a new, up-to-date version of Do It Again?

This one is dedicated to KD, who doesn't want us to be shitty to new acts we've never heard of:

In the spirit of embracing new music - today's music - I hope you all enjoy this one.

Date: Wed, January 04, 2017, 20:40:12 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Obviously not headed to "Coachella" anytime soon

I would have thought that the whole point of a "coolness test" like this silly, pointless Coachella/"twitter" thingy would be to emphasize & reward the coolness (i.e. "youngness/hipness") of the participant. So wouldn't it make more sense if the way it worked was that you DEDUCTED the number of acts that you HAVE heard of (but not necessarily heard) FROM the starting point of 100? No?? I think that's what the dummy who started this actually meant but wasn't coherent enough to make clear.

Let's say, theoretically, that I've heard of only 7 acts - my age would be 93 and so everybody could have a good larf at how uncool I am 'cause I clearly don't know shit about today's hottest soundalike/bland/tiresomely average entertainment properties and the totally awesome music scene they inhabit. If you've heard of only 17 acts, that would make you 83 - still pretty uncool in the truly asinine "twitter" world. Conversely, if you've reached the score of 17, that would mean you recognize 83 acts on the list. A score of 17 would put you very close to the height of kool. Much to your own detriment and the detriment of those around you, I'd say.

The self-styled ultra-hip/megacool types will claim to have at least a passing familiarity with maybe as many as 85 of these semi-anonymous contrivances...and that fact would give those coolsters a score of 15 - further evidence of how hip they truly are. Or maybe proof of just how desperate they are to keep up with current trendy trends in fabricated musical product regardless of how derivative and shallow things have gotten overall.

Of course, there is the very real possibility that up to 65% of the listed acts don't actually exist at all - the joke's on you, smart guy - and that the whole exercise was designed to throw ridicule at anyone who might actually have a broad-based knowledge of popular music spanning give-or-take the better part of a century, and to reward the folks who have trouble acknowledging anything at all before, say, 1995.

I think I've figgered it out.

Date: Wed, January 04, 2017, 19:53:38 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

In case anyone is wondering, Toto will be in Europe during June/July of this year, so I doubt they'll be touring with the Dan unless SD starts a spring tour in April.

Date: Wed, January 04, 2017, 17:40:12 ET
Posted by: Jimmy , Texas

Forget it. It ain't gonna happen. Joe Jackson is not coming back to the USA again just to take an opening act gig. It makes Joe look bad and he won't like it.

Date: Wed, January 04, 2017, 14:16:11 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, Harrisburg, PA

Count me among those who would LUV a Joe Jackson/ Steely Dan billing!!!!!! # pleazzzze let it happen

Date: Wed, January 04, 2017, 12:39:21 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Don B, you're preaching to the choir here on The Blue. A SD release of new material is high on my wish list.

KD, I'm unclear of the concept re: that quiz. I imagine most of those bands are rather new and/or not wildly popular yet, I'd think the MORE of the bands you know, the younger your age would likely be. If you know NONE of them, you are likely close to 100. No? Shouldn't it be the number of bands you've NEVER heard of, is your age? What am I missing (other than most of these things make little sense).

Date: Wed, January 04, 2017, 12:28:23 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

(Note: This is not an invitation to be shitty to new bands you've never heard of.)

The joke going around Twitter is "what's your real age?" Count the number of acts in the Coachella lineup that you've actually heard of, and that's the count:

I'm 17.

What's saddest is that I'm actually 36, I have a kid in high school and another about to hit high school that listen to a ton of music, and a healthy portion of my friends fall under the hipster/millennial umbrella. And yet I only got to 17.

Date: Wed, January 04, 2017, 11:46:04 ET
Posted by: Don Breithaupt, Los Angeles

I wish they'd take a summer off and go make a record.

Date: Wed, January 04, 2017, 11:37:06 ET
Posted by: RD, RR

Joe Jackson website shows "no dates yet" and to "stay tuned." He's not a stretch after Elvis Costello and Steve Winwood.

Date: Wed, January 04, 2017, 00:44:13 ET
Posted by: Riker, in bed

Chicago & The Doobie Brothers have already announced a double headliner tour this Summer. Maybe Steely Dan might ask Michael McDonald to open for them again. Return of the Sugartooth McDan tour.

Date: Tues, January 03, 2017, 22:09:41 ET
Posted by: Phred,

That should say 3-4, not 34. Sorry.

Date: Tues, January 03, 2017, 22:08:47 ET
Posted by: Phred,

Well, another 34 weeks maybe will start hearing about the possibility of another tour by Steely Dan this year. My hunch is that some early festival announcement will directly make this known if it's going to happen. Best wishes to everyone here.

Date: Tues, January 03, 2017, 15:22 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Fake Hoops(s)(s)' moving around, great. Glad I didn't see it.

Watched the 'Plush' DVD at loud volume on Monday, would recommend! Goddamn Walter is so great in those concerts.

Date: Tues, January 03, 2017, 13:46 ET
Posted by: Truth, C

What's really sad is that it's more likely to be someone approaching 60 than 16.

Date: Tues, January 03, 2017, 12:58 ET
Posted by: Mt. Belzoni, Portland OR

Crosby is an interesting guy. Here's his cover of the Dan's "Home at Last" - Nice jazzed-up instrumental break,interesting outro use of Deacon Blues' opening chords as a further SD tribute.

When he started out, he had ample creativity, a marvelous voice and a rare predilection for the effective use of alternative guitar tunings, and not merely the usual open D and Open G tunings. (Recall that he also produced Joni Mitchell's spare but lovely '68 debut LP, which was also a forest of alternative tunings.) Alas, his hedonistic tendencies got the better of him, and he (like Stills, Nash and Young) wasted a lot of time during his peak creative years on ego, drugs, lust and self-indulgence, and would up producing only a fraction of the great work that many of us hoped for.

IMHO, his greatest song is The Lee Shore, which has no better version than his beautiful duet with Nash on 4 Way Street. Other Crosby songs that Dandomites might enjoy and likely aren't as familiar with include Low Down Payment, The Wall Song, Homeward Through the Haze (which preceded SD's Home at Last), Bittersweet, and Page 43, most of which can be found on the first 2 of his 4 albums with Graham Nash from the early-mid '70s. Wooden Ships is also a great song, and he did an interesting acoustic version of it for a 1973 prison benefit (aired on SF FM radio) that can be found here:

Crosby later befriended the great Michael Hedges (of blessed memory), who took the art of alternative tunings, composition therein, and acoustic guitar technique to a level that no one else has matched, but that's an entirely different, even less Dangential post. Crosby incorporated one of Hedges' songs into one of his own, and
CSN toured with Hedges as their opening act in 96. And for those who can't wait for someone to connect Hedges to a postable topic, check out and

Date: Tues, January 03, 2017, 00:56 ET
Posted by: Sam, Los Angeles

Larry Carlton is playing several shows in California this month. He has a show on January 21 at The Arcadia Performing Arts Center in Arcadia, CA which is only 8 miles from my home. Larry has jumped on the VIP package bandwagon. $100 will get you a premium seat, meet & greet, soundcheck and Q & A with Larry Carlton.

Date: Mon, January 02, 2017, 21:53:42 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Guess I was being naive thinking 2017 would bring out the best in us! But I won't give up hope.

Date: Mon, January 02, 2017, 21:45:21 ET
Posted by: Real hoops , Chicago

No, that last post ( now deleted as of 10:41 pm ET) is not by me.

Whoever made that post, I will research and find out who you are.

To everybody else, I will remove the post in a little while when I'm in front of a computer. Thank you for your patience. (That fake post is now deleted as of 10:41 pm ET)


Date: Sun, January 01, 2017, 17:56:07 ET
Posted by: Cecil, C

Glenn Frey discussing the influence Don & Walt had on their songwriting.

Date: Sun, January 01, 2017, 17:07:06 ET
Posted by: Midcle, Name

Before the fall when they wrote it on the wall
When there wasn't even any Hollyweed

Date: Sun, January 01, 2017, 16:06:02 ET
Posted by: Lou, Illinois

Stay away from David Crosby's "Thousand Roads" album. It's dreadful. Very slick commercial production. It contains the song he co-wrote with Phil Collins called "Hero". It's Crosby's worst. Just watch the music video on YouTube. It'll make you puke.

Date: Sun, January 01, 2017, 11:50:04 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

Happy New year everyone!
I think your Champagne is going flat
I'd say the correct order for Crosby songs are
Shadow Captain
Deja Vu
Eight miles high (co-written)
Wooden ships
White Christmas

Date: Sun, January 01, 2017, 09:42:43 ET

I will second the nomination for Shadow Captain. Sorry Hoops, though DC's
reverence for The Dan is well known. Kinda-sorta Dangenntial.

Date: Sun, January 01, 2017, 09:27:46 ET
Posted by: Kenny, NSEW

Didn't find Crosby as a talking head in this VH-1 SD segment. But Ozzy Osbourne and others are.

Date: Sun, January 01, 2017, 02:30:32 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Every year on my birthday,the first thing I do,is listen to Almost Cut My Hair.Cuz I feel I owe it to someone!

Date: Sun, January 01, 2017, 00:37:56 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

I'll toss in Almost Cut My Hair.

As for newer stuff, I've heard very good stuff---and some not so much. But that might just be because I haven't given it enough time. The guy can still sing, that's for sure.

Date: Sun, January 01, 2017, 00:33:21 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach. 2017? Seriously. How the hell did this happem?

Don, Happy Canadian New Year to you, too. When do you celebrate that, again? Something about the metric system, I think....

All the best to you and Fran. (And all Les Habitants I met along the way.)

Date: Sun, January 01, 2017, 00:27:47 ET
Posted by: Mars, drinking champagne

David Crosby's best song is "Wooden Ships". Crosby wrote the music and Paul Kantner/Stephen Stills wrote the lyrics. I like the Jefferson Airplane version better than the Crosby, Stills & Nash version because it's more loose and jazzier. "Deja Vu" is probably Crosby's second best song. I also like "Shadow Captain" from the "CSN" album a lot.

Date: Sat, December 31, 2016, 23:10:40 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Happy New Year to all the B'bookers out there! Hoping 2017 brings out the best in us all. Peace

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