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Date: Mon, April 24, 2017, 17:00:24 ET
Posted by: Steven,

Chris NH.....Beacon dates aren't even a rumor yet. I'm just commenting that the tour calendar suggests it as a possibility.


Date: Mon, April 24, 2017, 16:57:12 ET
Posted by: PJ, Upstate New York

NEWS
Steely Dan's Donald Fagen enlists Ulster musicians for backing band

John W. Barry | Poughkeepsie Journal
Updated 2 hours ago
Donald Fagen, co-founder of the rock band Steely Dan and a graduate of Bard College in Annandale, will be backed by four Ulster County musicians when he tours the U.S. and Japan beginning in August.

Continues...

http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/news/2017/04/24/steely-dans-donald-fagen-enlists-ulster-musicians-backing-band/100838384/


Date: Mon, April 24, 2017, 16:53:50 ET
Posted by: Linkster, Upstate New York

YouTube video of Connor Kennedy, et. al. Connor was born about the same time that the New York Rock and Soul Revue had their US tour in 1992. The other players were born just around the time Steely Dan played Rosland Ballroom in 1995. Wow! I feel old.

"Stand Back" - Connor Kennedy with Scott Sharrard and The Brickyard Band

Published on Jun 16, 2016
6/15/16 at Rockwood Music Hall in NYC.
Connor Kennedy - guitar and vocal, Scott Sharrard - guitar,
Adam Minkoff - bass, Eric Finland - keyboards, Diego Voglino and Moses Patrou - drums, Reggie Pittman - trumpet, Kenny Brooks - sax.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a29Ev7kYca0&feature=youtu.be


Date: Mon, April 24, 2017, 15:11:53 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Steven - At this point it's just a rumor, or maybe pure conjecture.

KD, I think you're right that this might be the new paradigm. Residencies and festivals for SD, Fagen doing what he wants. Works for me.


Date: Mon, April 24, 2017, 15:10:23 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

A slimmed down back up band makes sense for a Fagen solo tour, but hard to see how he can have no female backing singers. Thinking of how one would re-arrange Nightfly or New Frontier. And no horns on IGY?

I've enjoyed hearing new arrangements in Dan shows, and they worked hard on those, you could tell, to get a sound that worked for that band and those crowds. Will be curious to see how he re-does some of those songs.




Date: Mon, April 24, 2017, 13:59:03 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

PopeGreg: I saw Steely Dan at Four Winds last year and was quite happy. It's a 75-minute drive from downtown Chicago. Free parking. The distance weeds out the lightweight SD fans who only want to hear the Decade CD played in its entirety. The sound was great, the people and fans were great. Lots of places for fans to meet and chat. It's not Roseland or Thalia Hall, but I give it a thumbs up!


Date: Mon, April 24, 2017, 13:44:46 ET
Posted by: popegreg, MKE

Yes! A Milwaukee show at the Riverside! I am so psyched! Sucks that there's no Chicago show though. Anyone who's seen the Dan at that casino in New Buffalo care to share their thoughts on the venue? I'm tempted but it's about a 3 hour drive.


Date: Mon, April 24, 2017, 13:20:34 ET
Posted by: Steven, Planning my tour budget

Any rumors as to whether Steely Dan will do a Fall NYC residency at The Beacon after the Nightflys tour is over? It seems doable. The Beacon's schedule is open from October 5-27, DF is playing Westchester County in August, but otherwise no dates in NYC. But then weren't Beacon tickets slow to sell last fall? Maybe that would have them take a year off from the Beacon.


Date: Mon, April 24, 2017, 12:40:07 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

If this is the way it goes from here on out, it's a sensible change. A residency, which means the band needs to get its shit together for a month or so (which is apparently the case, great to hear Walter playing well and Donald belting it out too), and then Fagen picking his flavor of the summer.

Meanwhile, Walter doesn't have to mime along to songs he never played on, in an outdoor stage in some random state in the middle of August. Good deal for all involved, though I'll badly miss hearing him play live this summer.

Great news on Donald's new approach, too. Looking forward to seeing him have fun with a funky, little band.


Date: Mon, April 24, 2017, 12:37:10 ET
Posted by: hm,

Small band, no horns, no female backing vox. Fagen must be going for something different here.


Date: Mon, April 24, 2017, 09:14:56 ET
Posted by: Jim, -

For those so inclined, a photo of Donald and his band for the solo tour is featured in the Twitter feed box at the upper left corner of this page. Put your cursor over Donald's face WITH clicking holding down your mouse button and then move the cursor. ThxP.


Date: Mon, April 24, 2017, 09:09:24 ET
Posted by: Stan, Tulsa

Lee Falco, Connor Kennedy and probably the others as well are in their early 20s. What's he going to call them, Playstation babies?


Date: Mon, April 24, 2017, 08:27:02 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

The Nightflyers are Connor Kennedy (guitar, vocals), Lee Falco (drums, vocals), Brandon Morrison (bass, vocals) and Will Bryant (keyboards, vocals). Previously, the foursome have been performing together in haunts, joints, dives, and even a few reputable establishments, up and down New York's Hudson River Valley and beyond.


Date: Mon, April 24, 2017, 08:07:20 ET
Posted by: DonaldFagen.com/Facenook, US & Japan

Donald Fagen has a new special project taking to the road this summer: Donald Fagen and The Nightflyers. Set to begin on August 3rd and 4th at the Capitol Theatre in Port Chester, NY, the U.S. tour leg will hit two dozen cities before wrapping at San Francisco’s The Masonic on Sept. 16. Following the U.S. dates, the band will travel to Japan for select performances. On tour, Donald Fagen and The Nightflyers will play songs from Fagen’s celebrated solo albums, Steely Dan hits, plus, as promised by Fagen, “some swell surprises.” Click here for a full list of dates and on sale details: http://smarturl.it/DonaldFagenEvents

SOME DATES ON SALE NOW (as noted)
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3 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Capitol Theatre
Thu 8 PM EDT · by Donald Fagen The Capitol Theatre
Port Chester, NY

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4 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Capitol Theatre
Fri 8 PM EDT · by Donald Fagen The Capitol Theatre
Port Chester, NY

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8 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at The Fillmore
Tue 8 PM EDT · by Donald Fagen The Fillmore Miami Beach at the Jackie Gleason Theater
Miami Beach, FL ON SALE NOW -- SEE donaldfagen.com / DF's Official Facebook page for a link to sales.
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9 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Ruth Eckard Hall
Wed 8 PM EDT · by Donald Fagen Ruth Eckard Hall, Backstage
Clearwater, FL ON SALE NOW -- SEE donaldfagen.com / DF's Official Facebook page for a link to sales.

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11 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Hard Rock Live
Fri 8 PM EDT · Tony Favia is going Hard Rock Live Orlando
Orlando, FL

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12 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Saint Augustine Amphitheatre
Sat 8 PM EDT · by Donald Fagen St. Augustine Amphitheatre
Saint Augustine, FL ON SALE NOW -- SEE donaldfagen.com / DF's Official Facebook page for a link to sales.
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14 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Montgomery PAC
Mon 8 PM · by Donald Fagen The Montgomery Performing Arts Centre at Renaissance Montgomery
Montgomery, AL ON SALE NOW -- SEE donaldfagen.com / DF's Official Facebook page for a link to sales.
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16 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Woodruff Arts Center
Wed 8 PM EDT · by Donald Fagen The Woodruff Arts Center
Atlanta, GA

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17 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Cape Fear Stage
Thu 8 PM EDT · by Donald Fagen Wilson Center - Cape Fear Community College
Wilmington, NC

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19 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Tivoli Theatre
Sat 8 PM EDT · by Donald Fagen Tivoli Theatre • Soldiers and Sailors Memorial Auditorium • Walker Theatre
Chattanooga, TN ON SALE NOW -- SEE donaldfagen.com / DF's Official Facebook page for a link to sales.

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20 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Schermerhorn Symphony Center
Sun 8 PM · by Donald Fagen Schermerhorn Symphony Center
Nashville, TN ON SALE NOW -- SEE donaldfagen.com / DF's Official Facebook page for a link to sales.

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22 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Palace
Tue 8 PM EDT · by Donald Fagen Louisville Palace
Louisville, KY ON SALE NOW -- SEE donaldfagen.com / DF's Official Facebook page for a link to sales.
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23 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Taft Theatre
Wed 8 PM EDT · by Donald Fagen Taft Theatre
Cincinnati, OH ON SALE NOW -- SEE donaldfagen.com / DF's Official Facebook page for a link to sales.
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25 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Hard Rock Live
Fri 8 PM EDT · by Donald Fagen Hard Rock Rocksino Northfield Park
Northfield, OH ON SALE NOW -- SEE donaldfagen.com / DF's Official Facebook page for a link to sales.
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26 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Four Winds Casino
Sat 8 PM EDT · by Donald Fagen Four Winds Casinos
New Buffalo, MI

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28 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Murat Theatre
Mon 8 PM EDT · by Donald Fagen Old National Centre
Indianapolis, IN ON SALE NOW -- SEE donaldfagen.com / DF's Official Facebook page for a link to sales.
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29 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Riverside Theater
Tue 8 PM · by Donald Fagen Pabst / Riverside / Turner Hall (116 W. Wisconsin Ave, Milwaukee)
Milwaukee, WI

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31 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Stiefel Theatre
Thu 8 PM · by Donald Fagen Stiefel Theatre for the Performing Arts
Salina, KS

SEP
2 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at ACL Live at Moody Theater
Sat 8 PM · by Donald Fagen ACL Live
Austin, TX

SEP
3 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Majestic Theatre
Sun 8 PM · by Donald Fagen Majestic & Empire Theatres
San Antonio, TX

SEP
12 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall
Tue 8 PM PDT · by Donald Fagen Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall
Portland, OR

SEP
13 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at The Paramount
Wed 8 PM PDT · by Donald Fagen Paramount Theatre
Seattle, WA ON SALE NOW -- SEE donaldfagen.com / DF's Official Facebook page for a link to sales.

SEP
15 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Mountain Winery
Fri 8 PM PDT · by Donald Fagen The Mountain Winery
Saratoga, CA ON SALE NOW -- SEE donaldfagen.com / DF's Official Facebook page for a link to sales.

SEP
16 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at The Masonic
Sat 8 PM PDT · by Donald Fagen The Masonic
San Francisco, CA

SEP
23 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Yokohama Blue Note Jazz Fest
Sat 11 AM UTC+09 · by Donald Fagen 横浜赤レンガ倉庫(Yokohama Red Brick Warehouse)
Yokohama, Kanagawa, Japan ON SALE NOW -- SEE donaldfagen.com / DF's Official Facebook page for a link to sales.

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24 Donald Fagen & The Nightflyers at Yokohama Blue Note Jazz Fest
Sun 11 AM UTC+09 · by Donald Fagen 横浜赤レンガ倉庫(Yokohama Red Brick Warehouse)
Yokohama, Kanagawa, Japan ON SALE NOW -- SEE donaldfagen.com / DF's Official Facebook page for a link to sales.





Date: Sun, April 23, 2017, 23:35:01 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Indy

Ticketbastard's showing Donald and The Nightflyers in PA on 8/5.


Date: Sun, April 23, 2017, 22:08:34 ET
Posted by: at\, Houston

Nat : What does this mean?:

"I thought Amy Helm would be likely for these solo shows. But she's scheduled to play in Canada on Sep 16"

Likely for what?


Date: Sun, April 23, 2017, 16:14:13 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Gerald: Lowdown remains as fine of a mid 70s single as there is...Porcaro rock that shuffle.

Al: Nooooooooooo...AH invested an entire musical language...like listening to Elvish runes in rapid succession. What a loss for music and planet Earth. It would have been cool to have Krantz and Holdsworth spin out some magic on a Fagen or Becker album. I think he'd actually be a better fit in 21St Century Dan than the canonical 7.

You all know where to look...but just a few:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bveYRBAS4dg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnhbCL53fzI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ho9yJFdhIc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6pVnb95p0c


RIP Maestro.









Date: Sun, April 23, 2017, 03:07:09 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Great, sold out show last night.

'Everyone has gone to the movies' was in the set list, a very nice surprise.

Donald's voice strong and very upfront in the mix, one can tall he's getting ready for a solo tour.

Walter had his moments, overall I look at him him at the grand master of ceremonies - fine with the fact that Don likely takes a bigger interest in the details.

Security lights flashed during all of KC followed by a brief house announcement, after which Don said 'this is a dangerous gig'

Pretzel logic encore one of the highlights, with Walt staying almost invisible half backstage to the left - playing strong- and Jon taking his center spot more or less.

Almost 2 hours with the short 2 Minute break.

Obviously there are more shows coming up but I also got this eerie sense of finality, having almost taken this for granted since the 90's and am glad I made the trip.


Date: Sun, April 23, 2017, 00:36:45 ET
Posted by: Sweathog, Oakland CA

Saw Steely Dan twice at The Mountain Winery in Saratoga. They always sell out quickly at that venue. I remember they played good stuff like "Night by Night" and Donald's "New Frontier". People who live in Northern California are lucky to see Donald Fagen TWICE this year. In 2006 Donald only played one solo show in Oakland. I'm really stoked for this new tour.


Date: Sun, April 23, 2017, 21:33:15 ET
Posted by: Abu, So Cal

I see DF is edging closer to me. Come on, Donald!


Date: Sat, April 22, 2017, 21:45:21 ET
Posted by: Row Jimmy, CT/NYC

Ken,

My first SD show was in 1993. I have probably seen SD 10 times. I have seen the Grateful Dead 50 times (their last show was my 50th show). I have seen the Allman Brothers around 25 times. I have a boxfull of ticket stubs from all the concerts i've seen. I play the piano, guitar and trumpet. The guitar was self-taught. I have lived in St. Louis, Chicago and NYC, so I have seen plenty of good music. When I lived in St. Louis, Chuck Berry showed up and played with a Dead cover band I was watching. I went to 2 jazz feats in New Orleans before it was trendy.

I am not sure where you are coming from. Don't give me that holier than thou attitude. Where are you coming from? I know music. And I am well educated, so I know writing. And I know all the music of SD too. Nice try.


Date: Sat, April 22, 2017, 15:43:21 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,


Carlton: Yes, I'm rather fond of his toddler albums Born and Crawled and Pacifier Valley


Date: Sat, April 22, 2017, 13:08:39 ET
Posted by: Abu, Mountain Winery ???

The Mountain Winery in Saratoga, as of the time of this post, has a blank date for September 15th. Check back later to see if Donald gets confirmed there.


http://www.mountainwinery.com/concerts/listing/60


Date: Sat, April 22, 2017, 12:09:34 ET
Posted by: Ken, PA

Row Jimmy - Just curious. How long have you been a Steely Dan fan? About two weeks?


Date: Fri, April 21, 2017, 20:13:29 ET
Posted by: Sunim Koria, Leicestershire, UK

Hi,

Just passing by to say thanks for the various posts of my big band work "Sonata on a Theme of Black Cow" on this board and it's very reassuring to know it's being appreciated by Dan fans over the world. It's definitely one of my favourite works I've produced and can't believe it's been almost exactly 10 years since I wrote it! I'm ashamed to say I haven't really written a single note of music since 2012 but I'm working on putting an end to that... maybe another Steely Dan roast-up?!

Thanks again,

Sunim


Date: Fri, April 21, 2017, 17:29:23 ET
Posted by: Abu, Waiting for DF

https://concertwith.me/en_us/tour-dates/Donald+Fagen


Saratoga, CA at the Mountain Winery Sept 15


(according to this site)


Date: Fri, April 21, 2017, 16:29 ET
Posted by: Scoop Brady, SW

Old newspaper story on Fagen's return to Bard in 1985. Funny quote from Walter.

http://tinyurl.com/ke6qdgx


Date: Fri, April 21, 2017, 14:15:15 ET
Posted by: Carlton, NV

Dr Mu wrote

"John Mayer's been around since TvN."

Actually, he's been around since a few weeks after the release of Aja.


Date: Fri, April 21, 2017, 13:56:28 ET
Posted by: Sweathog, Oakland CA

I checked Santa Barbara Bowl's website and the show is being billed as "An Evening with Steely Dan" on April 25. Maybe SD will play two sets?


Date: Fri, April 21, 2017, 13:39:28 ET
Posted by: Sweathog, Oakland CA

No Donald Fagen shows went on sale today. Donald is also playing at the Mountain Winery in Saratoga, CA on 9/15/17. I'm gonna buy tickets for that show too. Just wait for the official press release.


Date: Fri, April 21, 2017, 13:31:45 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

You guys think he'll do any Sunken Condos stuff? There was plenty of new material played in '06. Or perhaps he'll focus more on the hits with the new band. Either way, I'm there ... as long as there's something other than a mid-week Clearwater show ...


Date: Fri, April 21, 2017, 09:38:28 ET
Posted by: Row Jimmy, CT/NYC



The book needs more flavor to it. Hoops, I think Doc Mu hit on it when he said none of the principals were interviewed. But this whole idea of just giving us the facts of how each album was made creating a setting for discussion is off. It basically leads to complete conjecture, which is senseless. That is not what I am seeking when I read a book about a band. I have read books about the Dead, Jim Morrison, Hendrix, Lennon and you get more of a flavor. The book on Steely Dan is more of an encyclopedia of facts. Again, I had an empty feeling after reading it. I appreciated a few nuggets and a general feeling of what the band was like, but it was very shallow.


Date: Fri, April 21, 2017, 08:02:45 ET
Posted by: Nat, AZ

I thought Amy Helm would be likely for these solo shows. But she's scheduled to play in Canada on Sep 16.


Date: Fri, April 21, 2017, 03:35:10 ET
Posted by: Dr., Hanging Valley Wall, Colorado

Been here in San Diego for a few weeks. Even though I'm staying in Point Loma, home of Shelter Island and Humphrey's, I wasn't planning on going to see the Dan because of a) lame same set lists. b) unreasonable ticket prices which started over $200. I went Monday night. My wife and I were thinking about kayaking to the boat docks to see the show from the water but the show wasn't sold out. I could have gotten 10th row center from the box without service charges for $185 each. There were no takers. Ended up with comp tickets I bought for $100. This place only holds 1200. No bad seats. It is my favorite place to see a concert in SoCal. To give you an idea, every seat is in front of their soundboard. Love the place and the local micros they pour.....and the fine Tango sativa.

Saw them play Rikki for the first time since my first concert ever when I saw them in high school. Also: Tonight When I Chase The Dragon (always thought that should have been the song name) and Razor Boy. All three brought me much joy and were not performed the next night.

Of course the band sounded super fine. Fagen's voice was strong. I know they play it every night but the opening - Black Cow -Aja is still awesome and brings back so many memories. On the other hand.....their best shows will always be their initial comeback tours which featured two sets and Fagen/Becker solo numbers. How I would love to see a Walter solo show featuring his two solo albums.

Going back to Colorado on Saturday so last day tomorrow I will surf and/or die.


Date: Fri, April 21, 2017, 02:32:49 ET
Posted by: Sweathog, Oakland CA

There was supposed to be a presale for that San Francisco show on Wednesday. I was ready to buy tickets but the show was not in Ticketmaster's system. I still don't see the show listed on Ticketmaster or Live Nation. It might show up in the morning though.

By the way, The Charmer mentioned Donald will be using Amy Helm's band. I checked Amy's website and noticed she has a gig in Canada on 9/16/17. The same night for Donald's San Francisco show. Charmer might be wrong.


Date: Fri, April 21, 2017, 21:33:15 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

Trying to front-run DF West Coast dates, I stumbled across Terence Boylan's ALIAS BOONA project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zGuaHQkqZ4

Have we discussed this yet? Sound quality is a heck of a lot better than WALK IT/TALK IT or ANDROID WAREHOUSE, or Thomas Jefferson Kaye...


Date: Fri, April 21, 2017, 00:57:26 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago

Thank you very much, Ben. You've helped a lot of people.

Here's a link to a contest to win tickets to see Donald in San Francisco. The contest is offered by the local CBS affiliate.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/kcbs-contests-3/


Date: Fri, April 21, 2017, 00:44:16 ET
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Date: Thurs, April 20, 2017, 22:40:54 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,


Mayer's Rosie uses a figure "back to your room" very similar to Mork Knopfler and Dire Straits "Why Worry?' at 2:29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_03uXQiz6eY


Hey, it works. Knopfler's steel guitar is spectacular. Mayer's playing reminds me a little bit of Drew Zingg - he's pretty solid.


Date: Thurs, April 20, 2017, 22:38:18 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Indy

Surfing for Donald's shows landed on info for tix on sale TOMORROW (4/21) for his show in San Fran on 9/16/17!

[Among others, saw at LiveNation.com; also, Google "Donald Fagen 9/16 San Francisco"]


Date: Thurs, April 20, 2017, 22:10:28 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,



Ironically, I'm interested in the FAQ book to match with my observations as to the credits on Katy, Pretzel, and Scam.


John Mayer's been around since TvN. Now he's approaching 40. I usually really enjoy 1 song on each album.

This one is Rosie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np7A1bT3lrg

Kind of a Dan backbeat. A bit of a Van Morrison R&B, sigh jazz inflected vibe.


Date: Thurs, April 20, 2017, 20:42:38 ET
Posted by: FYI,

The Connor Kennedy we're talking about is a guitarist who currently backs Amy Helm. He is not the young hockey phenom nor RFK's grandson who dated Taylor Swift.


Date: Thurs, April 20, 2017, 20:01:28 ET
Posted by: Mike, NJ

Isn't Connor Kennedy also the name of that young hockey phenom?


Date: Thurs, April 20, 2017, 18:08:09 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Row Jimmy: I will piggy back on Doc Mu's comments. As is repeated here every few weeks, Sweet's books, along with the newly released SD FAQ are great starting points for discussion. Definitive? No. But good books for hard cord Steely Dan fans to use as the basis for discussion and disagreement. Donald does of course have his Emminent Hipsters book which is an official discussion, but the holes in the story again leave much for debate. That's what actually makes those books even better. When a book is definitive, it ends discussion--but a good book makes us ask more questions. Those questions are in some ways more important than the answers.


Date: Thurs, April 20, 2017, 17:55:08 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,


Row Jimmy - Sweet never interviewed the principles...'nuff said.



I'm DRUNK on Drunk! schnasty chord changes...





Date: Thurs, April 20, 2017, 17:37:10 ET
Posted by: Matt K,

Tivoli Theatre here in Chattanooga confirmed that Donald Fagen would be appearing there this year, but said that they could not release details of dates, presale info, on sale date, or ticket prices until this coming Monday, April 24th.

I can assure you I will be following up on Monday, and will let you all know what I find out.


Date: Thurs, April 20, 2017, 17:36:38 ET
Posted by: Jim,

Regarding some questions as to how the tour dates might be announced:

Over the past 20+ years, the pattern is typically one or two dates get leaked on Ticketmaster, PollStar or something a week or two early.

Occasionally, some of the more astute fans among us can interpolate when there might be a show because they know when Steely Dan band members are having solo shows. For example, in the past, if Jon Herington was going to have some JHB dates in May, or Keith Carlock was going to Drum clinics in Europe in November, we could forget about Steely Dan tour dates then. However, in this case, since all indications are that Donald will use a different band, that doesn't really apply. (For summer shows with Steely Dan, this is usually because of subscription series tickets like at Chastain or Ravinia where they go on sale a month early to members for the general public.) In some cases, part of the contract is that the show has to be announced by the promoter, venue and/or the sponsor before the performer can mention it. So that's why you may see some delays.

I think we're seeing the similar thing here. One or two venues mentioned this week; next week will see some more, and then the following week even more. Then a few stragglers. And remember, it's not unheard of for them to add shows not only at the end of the tour block but sometimes in the beginning.

I would also wager that next Friday, April 28, there will be four- five more shows on sale. Just my prediction based on observing this sort of sale since 1993.

That said, standard disclaimer: I don't have any inside or official information and I could be wrong about this.


Date: Thurs, April 20, 2017, 14:17:23 ET
Posted by: Steely Director, NOLA

Anyone found a video yet of Steely Dan playing Maynard Ferguson's "Fan It, Janet" for the intro tune? I saw Ferguson in...must have been '83 or so...I don't recall if "Fan It, Janet" was on the setlist, but I'm guessing not.

On a Dangential note, I see that the new "Guardians Of The Galaxy" movie has "Come A Little Bit Closer" by Jay and the Americans on the soundtrack. So there's that.


Date: Thurs, April 20, 2017, 10:52:39 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Connor Kennedy was discussed by someone, I can't remember who, possibly a member of his camp. I did bring up perhaps Donald changing his band as some gossamer on a site dedicated to a band with little going on. Perhaps changing out the Steely Dan vets that were in the 2006 for a different sound (and different pay scale) this time around.


Date: Thurs, April 20, 2017, 10:21:03 ET
Posted by: Marty, TX

No reports from San Diego?


Date: Wed, April 19, 2017, 19:48:05 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

This was part of an email from a friend today.

"For us "die-hards" Steely Dan is more than a group, it's all that comes with it. Never mind what they choose to play for us, that's not it either. It's being there when they do it!
The excitement before a show, entering the theater, the noise before, the Show itself, and afterwards the fantastic feeling that you feel in your entire body after what you've been treated to, and then sharing this excitement with some of your best friends, and new ones you've just met."

I think that is a pretty fair description of a great evening!
Peace


Date: Wed, April 19, 2017, 21:33:15 ET
Posted by: Abu, CC(F)R

"Ric", I believe you were referring to the possibility of the Credence of the Revival of DF's solo tour in Clearwater. In short, that would be DF-CCR.


Date: Wed, April 19, 2017, 21:33:15 ET
Posted by: EC, NY

I'm pretty excited about the possibility of a Fagen tour, even if it's a limited one! A season that includes both SD AND DF shows?? That's gotta be a big winner!


Date: Wed, April 19, 2017, 15:17:31 ET
Posted by: Row Jimmy, CT/NYC

I just wanted to comment after having read the Steely Dan book by Brian Sweet.

I am sure that he has commented regarding the book on this site and it has been discussed ad nauseam.

I have a couple of comments. I was definitely impressed with the fact digging that he did to get all of the facts for the book There is a lot there. Overall, however, I think the book really missed the stories that you typically read about in books written about bands. I was not expecting Led Zeppelin-like stories of debauchery and such. However, I was hoping for more of a feel of what it was like to be around Steely Dan. Instead, what I read was a recounting of the shuffling of musicians and the perfecting of the music in the mixing process. The only real time that I felt that I got a feeling of the environment of Steely Dan, interestingly, was in the last 10 pages of the book, when the author described Donald Fagen's relationship with Walter Becker and their wives not speaking with each other.

Why not more about Herrington? All it said was that he was brought into the band. Why not more about Carlock? All it said was that he was from Mississippi. I found that disappointing.

In looking at the forest, instead of the trees, I did get an overall feel from the book. For example, it seems that Donald Fagen enjoys performing more (although Eminent Hipsters contradicts this a bit).

Unfortunately, I think the author realized that his hands were tied as he pointed out that Fagen and Becker would not contribute to the book.

Overall, the book left me with an empty feeling. The book was a skeleton description of Steely Dan and did not provide much meat on the bones. However, maybe there is just not much depth to Fagen and Becker. Or Fagen and Becker are hiding the ball. Either way, I love the music, and always will.


Date: Wed, April 19, 2017, 15:07:15 ET
Posted by: The Charmer,

Actually Late To The Party, I saw three Donald Fagen solo shows in 2006,

I thought it was brought up here, but it definitely was on one of the Facebook pages where Pete Fogel said Fagen wasn't having the same band as 2006.

Instead he's having the same young band that Amy Helm is touring with this spring. Includes a young guitarist that Donald really likes named Connor Kennedy.

So with that equation, I wonder if song choices will be different. With a name like The Nightflyers, probably will be similar arrangements, but with a different band from the 2006 DF tour and the Steely Dan orchestra, Fagen could decide to do a lot more tribute stuff just like he did Chuck Berry's Viva Rock and Roll or the Band stuff, just for comparison. I'm expect he will do different songs that those I mention.


Date: Wed, April 19, 2017, 12:51:52 ET
Posted by: Ric, NM

Thanks bookkeeper, for lending credence to the Clearwater date.


Date: Wed, April 19, 2017, 12:33:34 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

Just checked with the box office and Donald Fagen will be in Clearwater on August 9, 2017. According to the person I spoke with tickets go on sale to the general public on April 28, 2017.


Date: Wed, April 19, 2017, 12:21:28 ET
Posted by: Tony, Hey oh!

A Fagen solo tour would be incredible. I just hope he branches it out and doesn't just tour the Midwest, as rumored. I gotta imagine the coasts have just as many if not more Dan Fans.


Date: Wed, April 19, 2017, 11:41:33 ET
Posted by: Late to, the party

The Charmer obviously didn't see any of the 2006 Fagen tour


Date: Wed, April 19, 2017, 11:12:25 ET
Posted by: The Charmer,

I'm excited about Donald Fagen and the Nightflys, but part of my excitement is based on an assumption that Donald will play his solo catalog in arrangements similar to the studio albums.

However, the reality is that this could be like a solo from Dukes of September instead of a solo from Steely Dan kind of tour.

That said, I'll lean towards it being more of Donald's solo catalog because of the band being named The Nightflys.


Date: Wed, April 19, 2017, 0:1:01:03 ET
Posted by: Tc,

https://youtu.be/7YDTDIIq_Yo

In minute 26 Thundercat talks about his love for Steely Dan.


Date: Wed, April 19, 2017, 00:20:15 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Hoops, this Digest was no disappointment at all. I find out Donald is playing in Clearwater, and apparently, on tour in the USA. At least for a few shows. I've been dying to go to Ruth Eckerd Hall, this could be a great experience.

Just have to figure out how I'm going to pull this off.....


Date: Tues, April 18, 2017, 23:45:58 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Many times delayed, hopefully not way too overrated, the latest edition of the Dandom Digest went out in the past couple of hours. It covers April 1-18, 2017.

The following are the subjects/headlines of the items in the latest newsletter:

- Donald Fagen Solo Show On Sale 4/21: 8/9, Clearwater, FL
- Full Fagen Tour??? DF solo Show, 8/19, Chattanooga???
- DF & Nighflyers Headline Jazz Fest, 9/23 & 24, Tokyo
- ON SALE MON 4/3 & 4/7: SD on Classic West and Classic East Bill

- REDUX: ON SALE NOW! on Classic West and Classic East Bill
- REDUX: SD Headline Greenwich Town Party
- Roger Rosenberg's "Baritonality"
- Dad Honors Son on HIs BirthdayŠRemembering Jeff Porcaro
- REDUX: New Michael Leonhart Interview talks SD
- REDUX: DF on New Todd Rundgren Album
- REDUX: An Evening with Herington/Beard

SPOILERS
SPOILERS
SPOILERS

- SPOILER: 4/12/17: Vegas
- SPOILER: 4/14/17: Vegas
- SPOILER: 4/15/17 Vegas
- SPOILER: Las Vegas Sun Article

If you are a subscriber, you should already have received it. If you don't see it, check your spam filters first; then, if it's not there, please email me at jjmckay AT me DOT com.

As I regularly remind subscribers, some people have problems with delivery of the Dandom Digest, usually because of their spam filters, firewalls, etc. That's why this sort of notice is posted here--so you are aware that you should have received the latest edition. Heck, if you want, email me privately that you did get it. WIth email filters and spam what they are today, there can be some issues beyond our control. For example, many work-place email servers reject email that it scans as having a naughty word.

If you are not currently a subscriber but would like to receive the free Dandom Digest email newsletter, please email me at jjmckay AT me DOT com or see http://www.dandom.com/dandomdigest.

Also, if you wrote something for this most recent Dandom Digest and it didn't appear, please email me as well. It's been ages since the last edition so perhaps something slipped through the cracks.

For the record, the Dandom Digest is a fan newsletter with content written by and for the fans of Steely Dan. The newsletter and its content is independent of, nor to be confused with, the glorious and much more glamorous official newsletters from steelydan.com, walterbecker.com, donaldfagen.com and other sites of Steely Dan and associates.

---

Thanks to all who contributed to the latest edition of the Dandom Digest, be it through the emailing digest AT dandom DOT com or through posting to our BlueBook guestbook or Facebook page; or tweeting @dandomdotcom. Pete, DB, Ben, and Gus.

As always, thank you for your support and writings through the years, especially Pete and Shari, as well as Mr. & Mrs. Winterbottom, and especially thinking of Mark, Bill, and Fezzie, and purposely not to mention a couple of people who request anonymity.

Fly about as low, be so cool,

Jim


Date: Tues, April 18, 2017, 22:05:04 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Sanibel Island

Now I know what I'm doing on August 9th!!


Date: Tues, April 18, 2017, 21:33:15 ET
Posted by: Abu, So Cal

I see DF is edging closer to me. Come on, Donald!


Date: Tues, April 18, 2017, 19:02:41 ET
Posted by: Christina,

Another date---but no word on tickets as of the moment...not through Ticketmaster

Donald Fagen
August 19, 2017
Tivoli Theatre
Chattanooga, TN


Date: Tues, April 18, 2017, 18:43:26 ET
Posted by: The Charmer,

Thanks for the great news, Jun!

This is going to be a great tour!

Fagen will be solo in Japan September 23 & 24.

Is it more than rumor that Steely Dan will come back to the Beacon in October?

That would also be great but I seem to remember something about last October's Beacon shows not selling too well.


Date: Tues, April 18, 2017, 18:22:46 ET
Posted by: Jun K, Japan

TicketMaster:
August 9, 2017
Donald Fagen
8 pm
Ruth Eckerd Hall

Clearwater, FL

On Sale This Friday, April 21, 2017

http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/735039?tm_link=tm_homeA_header_search


Date: Tues, April 18, 2017, 15:15:47 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,


Gerald: Lowdown remains as fine of a mid 70s single as there is...Porcaro rock that shuffle.

Al: Nooooooooooo...AH invested an entire musical language...like listening to Elvish runes in rapid succession. What a loss for music and planet Earth. It would have been cool to have Krantz and Holdsworth spin out some magic on a Fagen or Becker album. I think he'd actually be a better fit in 21St Century Dan than the canonical 7.

You all know where to look...but just a few:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bveYRBAS4dg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnhbCL53fzI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ho9yJFdhIc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6pVnb95p0c


RIP Maestro.








Date: Tues, April 18, 2017, 09:12:09 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Hey everyone,

I know we don't usually do this here, but Steely Dan fans are known for their hearts of gold, right?

J.D. Ryznar is one of the co-creators of the Yacht Rock series, he played Michael McDonald in the films and is the co-host of one of the greatest podcasts you'll ever come across: Beyond Yacht Rock. His family is going through some stuff right now that can better be explained here:

https://www.gofundme.com/badassfightinleahryznar

J.D. is a great guy and his wife does a wonderful Anita Baker impression:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_tUvDPr5nY

Every little bit helps, and it's a shame we're crowd-sourcing medical treatment, but here we are.

Thanks chums.


Date: Tues, April 18, 2017, 02:25:27 ET
Posted by: Sweathog, Oakland CA

Check out Larry Carlton's Facebook page. There's a great photo of Larry with Walter Becker and Jon Herington performing together on Saturday's Vegas show. Larry says he'll be playing 3 shows with Steely Dan in the near future.


Date: Tues, April 18, 2017, 00:20:01 ET
Posted by: This, is probably it

Connecticut show, Town Party for residents of Greenwich, special attendence details.

http://www.greenwichtime.com/local/article/Steely-Dan-to-headline-Greenwich-Town-Party-10963981.php


Date: Mon, April 17, 2017, 22:17:15 ET
Posted by: Tony, Hey oh!

Did a random Connecticut show just get announced that I missed?


Date: Mon, April 17, 2017, 19:58:20 ET
Posted by: Sweathog, Oakland CA

Here's videos of Michael McDonald & Thundercat performing at Coachella on Saturday:

www.pitchfork.com/news/72896-coachella-2017-watch-thundercat-and-michael-mcdonald-play-show-you-the-way-what-a-fool-believes/

www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2s9p12QyMs


Date: Mon, April 17, 2017, 19:44:29 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Good to hear, Pete. Let's hope he's cranked in the mix a bit more this time around, the Azoff buildings kind of hushed his sound a little too much back in 2007.


Date: Mon, April 17, 2017, 17:07:32 ET
Posted by: Pete Fogel, NYC

Carlton is playing the SD shows in Connecticut, Dodger Stadium and Citi Field


Date: Mon, April 17, 2017, 15:35:19 ET
Posted by: JT, Vega$



15 April 2017

Fan It Janet
(Enter D& W)
Black Cow
Aja
Hey 19
Black Friday
Show Biz Kids
Kid Charlemagne
Time Out of Mind ("TOOM")
Razor Boy
Bodhisatva
Daddy Don't Live In That NYC No More
Do It Again
Joe Tex song with Band Intros
Josie
Peg
Reelin' In The Years
Reelin' In The Years (Encore)
Untouchables (as D&W leave the stage)


Date: Mon, April 17, 2017, 14:30:39 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

All,

Sorry, I did not see request for the youtube links I mentioned last week until this weekend, and could not search until today.

There are now 21 of them. Rather than link them all one by one, here is a link to the guy's youtube page, you can then select them.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWST9WQ9Q-ULzdws71tc6ew

Most of them are short, less than a minute. A few are longer. Good sound quality. I like Green Earrings, which is # 12. DF's voice quite strong. Poster is clearly, overall, a Carlock fan.



CF


Date: Mon, April 17, 2017, 09:24:29 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

RIP A.H.

A.H.-V.Calaiuta-S.D.

what an artist we lost


Date: Mon, April 17, 2017, 00:01:35 ET
Posted by: Gavin, sad

This is bullshit. We just lost John Wetton and Greg Lake. Now we lose Holdsworth. I'm very upset about this. I just saw him play in San Pedro, CA two weeks ago with his band. He looked fine and healthy to me. I'm not going to sleep well tonight.


Date: Mon, April 17, 2017, 00:01:21 ET
Posted by: Abu, Brianized Dan

Brian McKnight is quite a successful singer, arranger, producer, and instrumentalist. Lately he has been "Brianizing", or basically covering other artists. His vids can be seen on YouTube. One of them is by his "favorite band ever in the history of bands, and music" he says in his intro to SD's Deacon Blues. Very nicely done. He plays solo electric piano and sings. Great voice. Check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA-USyXtA2A


Date: Sun, April 16, 2017, 16:01:32 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Is 'Barrytown' the most fully-realized of all the original band's songs? The perfect combination of the quirky, arch-Dylan stuff from the first album and the exacting, cranky craftsmanship of the second? Best match of songwriting and musicianship, with the original guys on board?

(Unless Porcaro plays drums on it, which he probably does.)


Date: Sun, April 16, 2017, 14:05:00 ET
Posted by: Al, Heaven

RIP Allan Holdsworth

Would've loved to hear him in the Dan.


Date: Sun, April 16, 2017, 14:04:43 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA

Thanks to all who have posted setlists, reports, and links. Here is another brief article.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/apr/15/steely-dan-venetian-las-vegas-residency-concert/?utm_source=sidebar&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=sceneOnSunPromo


Date: Sun, April 16, 2017, 12:23:41 ET
Posted by: Lonnie the Kingpin, Vegas

Great show on Saturday April 15. Larry Carlton sits in for Kid C and MOS. What more is there to say!! What a night! We were buggin'.

LTK


Date: Sun, April 16, 2017, 04:49:29 ET
Posted by: Gerald, N

SD did not "spark" Toto. Boz Scaggs did.

http://www.noise11.com/news/boz-scaggs-explains-how-he-became-the-father-of-toto-20140414

But it's true that Porcaro and Paich recorded with SD on an earlier date.


Date: Sun, April 16, 2017, 03:32:20 ET
Posted by: See, Mtl

JT, LC in NV with SD?


Date: Sun, April 16, 2017, 02:50:31 ET
Posted by: ., in bed

Is somebody gonna post the setlist for tonight's show?


Date: Sun, April 16, 2017, 12:08:55 ET
Posted by: Pepe, Lost waged

LARRY CARLTON Kid C! Just that 1, then left stage. Wow


Date: Sat, April 15, 2017, 21:06:21 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,



KD: Looks like that post got cement shoes like the rest of the Corleone family quips.


I bet a soundboard audio clip from the Venetian would sound superb. Sure beats the outdoor tin cans...


Date: Sat, April 15, 2017, 20:16:00 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago



KD wrote:

"Possibly a case of your post not showing up immediately?"

Actually kind of the opposite. (KD, feel free to email me for more.) .


Date: Sat, April 15, 2017, 19:54:09 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf



I've been saying unkind things about the setlist since the 2006 tour and have been posting on this board since its inception in 2001 and nobody has ever said anything about what to say -- especially in regards to criticizing The Two.

Possibly a case of your post not showing up immediately?
.


Date: Sat, April 15, 2017, 14:04:09 ET
Posted by: Anon, Vegas



https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/for-steely-dan-its-more-ovaltine-er-opaline-please/

.


Date: Sat, April 15, 2017, 10:57:06 ET
Posted by: Kenny, VA

Recently watched the classic 70s movie Days of Heaven for the first time. One scene brought to mind a couple of SD entities.

https://youtu.be/fLLQ2LIyDM0?t=1m9s

I couldn't find anything online that suggested Malick is an SD fan, but I did find this page comparing the two.

http://brightlightsfilm.com/what-do-terrence-malick-and-steely-dan-have-in-common-part-1/


Date: Sat, April 15, 2017, 10:09:56 ET
Posted by: JT, Vega$

I have to say, they were great last night! A very good sounding room...it was one of the best sounding shows I have ever attended. Really pristine, transparent mix out front.


Date: Sat, April 15, 2017, 10:01:10 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

"Daddy" might be an all-Becker song in the same way some (probably correctly) contend that "Bodhisattva" is an all-Fagen song. He might have a thing for it that I dig and understand, and sometimes Becker's version of "Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More" can be one of the highlights of the night. Here's to that taking shape yet again.

Listened to TvN loudly earlier this week while (attempting to) playing guitar along to it, and for all of our carping about how Becker's live version of the tune is superior to the recorded one (fair suggestions), it's fantastic to note just how much Becker fucking owns the recorded version of that song with that melodic bass drive and his funky guitar playing.


Date: Sat, April 15, 2017, 09:47:20 ET
Posted by: JT, Vega$

Last night's Setlist

14 April 2017

Fan It Janet
(Enter D& W)
Black Cow
Aja
Hey 19
Black Friday
Show Biz Kids
Kid Charlemagne
Rikki
Dirty Work
Bodhisatva
Daddy Don't Live In That NYC No More
Time Out of Mind ("TOOM")
Joe Tex song with Band Intros
Josie
Peg
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years
Pretzel Logic (Encore)
Untouchables (as D&W leave the stage)

Great show as always!


Date: Sat, April 15, 2017, 09:41:07 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Dan, the reference to Harriman and Carlyle is from the Vegas show review, posted earlier. The author did spell Carlock's name right the first time, though.

I got a belly laugh from the lone comment (at this time) on the review:

"I love SD, but I'll never forgive them for being the spark that was responsible for Toto." - Launce Rake.


Date: Sat, April 15, 2017, 04:08:01 ET
Posted by: Tom Hagen, Vegas

Don't diss the Dan. Just be glad they are gigging. See y'all again tomorrow night. Peace and love.

TH


Date: Fri, April 14, 2017, 20:15:59 ET
Posted by: Akli Stereopolis, SCTV

Anyone who chooses to post here as Moe Greene is OK by me.


Date: Fri, April 14, 2017,  ET
Posted by: ,

"Anyone know anything about these new band members Harriman and Carlyle?"


Date: Fri, April 14, 2017, 18:33:24 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I think we're all Walter's biggest fans around here (I usually skip ahead to his songs when the bootleg clips come out) but man, his singing on 'Daddy' was not his best in the clip provided:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkDx5xi0Kio


Date: Fri, April 14, 2017, 17:57:01 ET
Posted by: Moe Greene, Vegas

It's Moe Greene again. Sorry about that. I now have a REAL review of Steely Dan's opening show with photos. Here's the link:

www.vegasseven.com/2017/04/14/steely-dan-plays-winning-hand-venetian/


Date: Fri, April 14, 2017, 17:36:58 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour! Another Round.

Maybe a slightly better link:

https://www.youtube.com/user/martymartinez328/videos?sort=dd&shelf_id=0&view=0


Date: Fri, April 14, 2017, 17:35:19 ET
Posted by: The Dean, Manatee Bar. It's Happy Hour!

Thanks for the "effort" Try this Link, but clearly I've already tried that. A quick glance would reveal these are all dodgy paid-for (or irrelevant) links.

There are a few here that actually work:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWST9WQ9Q-ULzdws71tc6ew


Date: Fri, April 14, 2017, 13:41:07 ET
Posted by: Bugsy, S

Thanks Moe, but a press release is not a review.


Date: Fri, April 14, 2017, 13:14:06 ET
Posted by: Moe Greene, Vegas

Moe Greene here. Here's a review of Steely Dan's opening show in Vegas:

www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article/steely-dan-kicks-off-venetian-las-vegas-residency-221028

The review states that they did play Hey 19.


Date: Fri, April 14, 2017, 11:07:39 ET
Posted by: Try This Link, It May Work

Here's a search link to some of SD's Vegas 2017 shows. No step before Filters left out. No VCRs. If these videos are naughty, report to YouTube, their job to deal with YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/results?q=Steely+Dan+2017&sp=CAI%253D


Date: Fri, April 14, 2017, 09:23:39 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Casual fan, can you find the time to link at least one youtube vid? Hoops said youtube is all fair game, here. We can probably take it from there. But so far, like Steve, I've found just bogus links. I'll try to look again later, if necessary.


Date: Fri, April 14, 2017, 18:38:18 ET
Posted by: Flipkid, Red State I know many BlueBookers won't agree with me, but this looks like a pretty tight set. The only disappointment is no songs from 2vN or EMG. Now, is it value for money? That's the question.


Date: Thurs, April 13, 2017, 22:41:49 ET
Posted by: Pepper Potts, NY

Somebody posted a bogus setlist from last night's show on Setlist.fm.


Date: Thurs, April 13, 2017, 21:54:08 ET
Posted by: Found 'em,in, like, 20 seconds

[Shades of showing my mom how to load a VCR]

Go to YT. Hit "Filters." Choose "Uploaded Today." Type "Steely Dan 2017" in the Search Box. Ignore the obvious Live Stream Spam. Enjoy a front row seat w/ great sound quality for the rest of the real, free clips. Many thanks to the uploader!


Date: Thurs, April 13, 2017, 19:19:39 ET
Posted by: Steve,

BTW: Some of those YouTube links look dubious.


Date: Thurs, April 13, 2017, 18:38:18 ET
Posted by: Steve,

Casual Fan and Victor: All I'm finding on YouTube is some sort of pay per view hosted by YouTube. Where are the clips?

Thanks in advance for the links.


Date: Thurs, April 13, 2017, 16:49:19 ET
Posted by: Victor,

Great clips...luscious performances. Tasty. Thank you.


Date: Thurs, April 13, 2017, 10:57:42 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

There are 20 clips of the opening show posted to youtube, by the same person, ranging in length from about 30 seconds to 4+ minutes.

Won't bother linking them.


Date: Thurs, April 13, 2017, 09:37:27 ET
Posted by: popegreg, MKE

I suspected that these shows would be shorter casino shows despite the high ticket prices. I'm glad I decided not to make the trek, though the lack of a summer tour had me questioning that decision. I'm hoping I'll be able to make a few of the Beacon shows again in fall, but I might not be able to this time due to life circumstances. So a DF Midwest show or two is looking more and more likely as my only chance to get a nice hit off the SD pipe.

For anyone going to the Vegas shows I'm still jealous! How about some show reports? I'd love to hear about the venue, the crowd, the vibe. Just don't mention that you had In-N-Out Burger pre-show. That would put me over the edge of appropriate envy!


Date: Thurs, April 13, 2017, 09:11:25 ET
Posted by: DeaconBlues16,

On one of the SD FB groups (not the Dandom group but another one), someone listed the setlist as follows (this is directly copy and pasted, so hence the misspellings):

Intro (sans Donald and Walter)
Black cow
Aja
Hey 19
Black Friday
Show biz kids
Kid Charlemagne
Time out of mind
Dirty work
Boddisatwa
Daddy don't live in NYC
Green earrings
Indeed I love you (intros)
Josie
Peg
My old school
Reelin' in the years
Encore: Pretzel Logic

I think it's reasonable to assume that "Indeed I love you (intros)" is the Joe Tex I Want To Do (Everything For You) song they've been using.


Date: Thurs, April 13, 2017, 09:01:32 ET
Posted by: Steve,

Agreed about the shortened set list to accomodate the casino crowd. Too long a show means the largely 50+ age crowd would be too tired to gamble after the show.

But I would sorely miss Walter's Beat-spirited stream of consciousness. Sure, just like the Dead's DrumSpace, it can be hit or miss, but often the improvisation is a hit for me.

I have a feeling this will be similar to what's played at Classic West and Classic East.

Put it in perspective. 90% of everyone who attends these shows are casual fans, some who think the singer's name is Dan. They want to hear nothing more except to hear the "Decade" CD played live end to end, plus maybe one or two more. "How come they didn't play 'Book Keeper's Son'?"


Date: Thurs, April 13, 2017, 08:43:39 ET
Posted by: Scott, Same old Set

From the looks of it, the casino wants a 90 minute show which might explain the omission of Hey 19 and the associated blabber. I wonder how band intros were done.


Date: Thurs, April 13, 2017, 05:54:28 ET
Posted by: Hank, sleepy

Setlist seems a bit short. Have you noticed they didn't play Hey 19 or Black Friday?


Date: Thurs, April 13, 2017, 04:38:47 ET
Posted by: Noddy, Vegas

No surprises at first Vegas show:

Black Cow
Aja
Show Biz Kids
Kid Charlemagne
Time Out Of Mind
Dirty Work
Bodhisattva
Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More
Green Earrings
Josie
Peg
Reelin' In The Years
Pretzel Logic (encore)


Date: Thurs, April 13, 2017, 02:19:59 ET
Posted by: Coso, -

No set yet.

But they played Green Earrings.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BS0K1cZFA-K/


Date: Thurs, April 13, 2017, 01:59:06 ET
Posted by: Stevie Dan, Phila, PA

Show should be just about over. Anybody out there w/ the setlist? Please.


Date: Wed, April 12, 2017, 23:51:57 ET
Posted by: Coso, ,

From some posts I found on Twitter the show started an hour or so ago PST.

Hopefully we'll get a setlist.

Have they given any indication of doing albums in full during this run?


Date: Wed, April 12, 2017, 23:41:41 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

See is me. Sorry 'bout that!


Date: Wed, April 12, 2017, 22:55:19 ET
Posted by: See,Mtl

Looking forward to hearing about opening night in Vegas.Should be interesting to hear the reactions.To all those seeing shows,have fun,and stay safe.Peace


Date: Wed, April 12, 2017, 22:29:00 ET
Posted by: .,waiting

I'm not going to sleep tonight until I see the setlist for tonight's show.


Date: Wed, April 12, 2017, 16:11:31 ET
Posted by: Bill Drummond,

Ben Jammin':

Lost wages = Las Wages


Date: Wed, April 12, 2017, 15:27:38 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Listening to some unofficial recordings from the Royal Scam sessions, 'Sign in Stranger' specifically, and wondering if (if only for an evening, after some strong marijuana) Fagen ever considered doing a Jarrett-styled instrumental album in the mid-1970s.


Date: Wed, April 12, 2017, 13:05:29 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC

let's make it Steely Dan acceptable...
j. geils, p. wolf, a. belew, v. calaiutta, sd


Date: Wed, April 12, 2017, 12:08:54 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Indy

Cheers to the first SD show of 2017, and to those fans joining the fun in Lost Wages! I look forward to reading reviews and gaining insight from info shared here, so please post when possible.

Reel in Those Chips!


Date: Wed, April 12, 2017, 03:26:40 ET
Posted by: Mark,

RIP, John Geils. Of course, I knew him for his band's early 80s rock 'n' roll/pop hits,Centerfold, Freeze Frame, and Love Stinks. Over a decade later, I learned what the local Boston music scene already knew: Geils was a terrific jazz and blues artist first. He traveled in the same circles as many of the Woodstock and Boston greats like The Band, Van Morrison, etc.

Worthy coverage:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/04/11/guitarist-geils-found-dead-groton-home/zSjOaYn4BN5LMxNEms2f2J/story.html


Date: Wed, April 12, 2017, 01:22:41 ET
Posted by: Abu, Empty Post = Yes to Tour

I'm really hoping DonB's blank post at 09:08 was actually invisible ink that stated: "Yes, we are seriously considering a MH tour". Perhaps Doc Mu's post, which mysteriously has the exact same time stamp of 09:08:31, somehow made Don's post disappear.


Date: Tues, April 11, 2017, 18:00:49 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

KD: Still should have been Wetside Story in it's place. Grumble grumble...


Pretty stoked if there were a DF Tour stateside. 2006 HATWW. LOVE it. Sassy and jazzy. the studio version was ideal for its time and place...by I like the funked up jazz/muzak version.

Then I'm one of the few who like the reworked Police icon Don't Stand So Close to Me with Stewart "I'm not a redneck like Sting because I fell of my horse playing Polo" Copeland playing the fake drum machine with one hand...better because the 1986 version is CREEPY and SUBVERSIVE - in an entertaining way and thus closer to the Nabokov novel...


Hard to beat the '93 SD band with Erskine, Zingg, and the "all saxophones" version of Reelin'. I just think they work better live as jazzy rather than "ClassicRock/Shlock."


2006 stuff is out there - you'll be glad you tuned in.



Date: Tues, April 11, 2017, 12:21:36 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Always wanted to go to Massey Hall Don, many legendary live recordings speak volumes about the place.
Saw Donald at the Paramount in Oakland, one of the grand old art deco dames - (mostly) with beautiful, warm sound as well.
Glad you included Drew Zingg on your fabulous last cd.
We went to see him perform with other SD alumni around ‘93 at LeBar Bat, but haven’t heard much for a number of years.
He is playing tonight at Yoshis with a great Jazz/Funk band doing a special night of SD covers.
They also enlisted former Santana vocalist Tony Lindsay, should be interesting.


Date: Tues, April 11, 2017, 09:08:31 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles


Date: Tues, April 11, 2017, 09:05:49 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles

In other news, I saw the DF tour in '06 at the legendarily great-sounding Massey Hall in Toronto (it's like the Beacon only you can hear things inside it). Loved every nanosecond.


Date: Tues, April 11, 2017, 07:17:38 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

For the Stadium shows or for DF's solo tour, if he did the original version of "Here at the Western World" or dusted off "Any Major Dude..." for the first time since '96....the fans would eat it up.


Date: Mon, April 10, 2017, 23:27:18 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I think I've figured out a new way to enjoy the sometimes-maligned "Cousin Dupree."

Listen to it as if it were a Band song, especially a jumpy Levon Helm tune. As performed in the Rag, Mama, Rag-style, but with a 1999 Don & Walt arrangement.


Date: Mon, April 10, 2017, 22:09:43 ET
Posted by: Ward, listening to Wayne Shorter

That reworked jazz version of Reelin' was a godsend. They played it on their 1993 tour. From what I can recall, most people in the audience was sitting down and closely listening to the song. It was glorious. At the time I was hoping Steely Dan would evolve into something like the Pat Metheny Group with a heavy emphasis on jazz.

I have high hopes for Donald's Nightfylers project. I really do. I love the black & white promo photo of Donald looking as grim as ever with a trumpet next to his face. Donald has to get back to his jazz roots and play some new really stimulating jazz-rock music.


Date: Mon, April 10, 2017, 16:09:54 ET
Posted by: Wes, AZ

Interesting how Reelin went from being a concert rarity - they used a reworked version if it was played at all - to being a staple that is faithful to the original.


Date: Mon, April 10, 2017, 15:14:01 ET
Posted by: Mt. Belzoni, Portland OR

Perhaps one of the best things about Donald's '06 solo tour was that he expected to play for smaller crowds in more intimate venues, and didn't seem to feel obliged to focus his set list on the "hits" that typically dominate SD's set list.

To me, the tour's most memorable highlights were things that would apparently never happen at an SD show - great album tracks like The Goodbye Look, What I Do and Nightfly, rarities like HaTWW, and great covers like Misery & the Blues and Viva Rocknroll. The thought of a 2d DF tour has me hoping to hear these again, as well as stuff like Century's End, Confide in Me, Big Noise NY etc.

As well as hoping that this DF tour doesn't omit his many fans in the Pacific NW (Portland/Seattle/Vancouver).


Date: Mon, April 10, 2017, 13:57:22 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Sorry for the mess, not sure if my anti spyware is acting up or we just had a outasge.

Hope this will work:

'Steve, while I have not heard the version you're talking about I believe I get what you and Dean are talking about.

My experience with HATTW at Donald's show was similar. Very interesting and likeable, I would have loved the original better, it's a gem that never gets played and some on the intricacies are missing live.

Having said that, I really loved 'Reeling' the updated one.

Most here seemed to prefer the live Western world take, it's personal I guess.

It's all good but one can see how the causal concertgoer - nevermind us scrutinizing dicks- wants to hear the memorized versions.


Date: Mon, April 10, 2017, 13:35:17 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF


Such a holy gem that never gets played and part of the intricacies are left out in the live version.


Date: Mon, April 10, 2017, 13:30:02 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF





Date: Mon, April 10, 2017, 12:46:17 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach. With a wicked case of tinnitus

Steve, I get what you are saying here (I think). But most of the "hits" and/or songs in high rotation on the tours, have been recorded in their traditional arrangements. So these are already preserved. In some respects, I think performing a couple/few rearrangements, might show future generations what SD is really all about (especially Live). And this might be just as important, separate themselves from the "go through motions" approach of many of these classic rock bands.


Date: Mon, April 10, 2017, 07:42:29 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

When I saw "SD" here in Tampa last year, they tweaked
a couple of the tunes like Kid Charlemagne especially was performed
all "inside out".
For these 2 major stadium shows this summer, I hope they go back to the normal versions of their songs. Since the footage will likely be captured for future generations to enjoy.


Date: Mon, April 10, 2017, 01:54:34 ET
Posted by: Abu, Big Band Sonata

Back in 2014, I posted this cool tune called Sonata on a Theme of Black Cow. It was written (or arranged?) by Sunim Koria. I didn't know much about it back then. The Dean did some digging and posted this quote from a website:


http://www.qojo.co.uk/Graphics/Sunim_Koria/graphics_sunim.html

Excerpt:

"Sunim Koria is a Warwickshire based composer blending traditional and contemporary musical ideologies to create compositions of great depth and complexity.

His composition Sonata on a Theme of Black Cow was selected by the internationally acclaimed musician Tim Garland for performance by the Northern Underground Orchestra and a recording made at the Sage, Gateshead.

The album artwork is principally designed to express the dark undertones present throughout Sunim's piece, while references are made to the original Steely Dan lyrics from which the new composition is founded."


The "Sonata" was arranged for Big Band and sounds quite good. I believe The Dean, like me, thought it was pretty cool. Just thought I would share it again. For some reason, the website listed above must have been taken down. I'm glad The Dean found the info about it back three yrs ago, as I cannot find anything about it on the web. Here is the tune:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNSQ2SyTPNY


Date: Mon, April 10, 2017, 00:30:47 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach.

Abu, if we're talking pie-in-the-sky tour ideas, I'm all for yours. Don F and Don B could even use the same band. They might be able to expand it a bit, and bring back the vibes. Or, and here's another I-know-it-isn't-going-to-happen-idea: incorporate the Snarky Puppy "fam" into the band/lineup...

OK, I'm back to earth. But that's a great idea, Abu.


Date: Sun, April 09, 2017, 19:29:35 ET
Posted by: Alkali, NYC'

watching Snow White and the huntsman on fx when low and behold a commercial for that eastwest concert thing with all of those 70 bands comes on including a clip of fagen singing reeling in the years i dont know whether to laugh or cry and to topple it all off i cant get the song Dont stop believin out of my ear ive officially become just a little less of a fanatic on a seperate note how exactly does fleetfoot mac qualify as a eastwest coast band


Date: Sun, April 09, 2017, 18:49:30 ET
Posted by: Max, Flushing

Fagen hung out in the parking lot for Shea Stadium when the Beatles played there in 1965. Citifield was built on the site of the Shea parking lot. He makes his return 52 years later.


Date: Sun, April 09, 2017, 14:36:59 ET
Posted by: Abu, Monkey Around?

Hey Don Breithaupt... just wondering if you have been batting around the idea of a Monkey House concert tour? That would be absolutely sweet. Many others here likely would agree. I'm sure you would do a show out here in the southwest Left coast, which is now your unofficial Headquarters. With all this talk of a possible Donald Fagen solo tour, how about Monkey House and DF together? That would be too sweet, guaranteed to raise any listener's blood sugar way too high.


Date: Sun, April 09, 2017, 10:13:09 ET
Posted by: Robby, Just woke up

Wouldn't it be feasible for Donald & The Nightflyers to launch a USA Summer tour right after the Classic East/West concerts in July? Donald would get a boost from crowd attendance because of the heavy publicity at these Classic East/West shows.


Date: Sun, April 09, 2017, 06:41:14 ET
Posted by: Just, Wunderin'

Any thoughts or hypotheses on when we might know if Donald is doing a solo tour in the US? Other than this month's California dates and the two weekend Classic shows in July, it seems to me that the schedule is wide open for the summer. But then again maybe he will go into the fall.

Given that we are seeing tickets go on sale for the Tokyo show, maybe will see something soon?

I know, probably no one knows right now except Donald himself. Still, it's interesting to speculate. I have such anticipation.


Date: Sat, April 08, 2017, 19:46:09 ET
Posted by: Paul,

Looking forward to the Donald Fagen shows.

Here's hoping he brings the show to North America.

I'll be first in line.

BTW: I hear that a couple weeks from now his record store day. It would have been very cool if there were Steely Dan, Donald Fagen, or Walter Becker albums available for record store day. However, there are none listed at the official record store day promo list.

Maybe next year?


Date: Sat, April 08, 2017, 19:32:23 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Howard Stern is a big fan of Bob Lefsetz, the guy that did the review of "Can't Buy a Thrill" on the previous posting. I think Bob covers the NY media beat for the Daily News or the Post...or did fairly recently.
I enjoy listening to Pandora Radio on the weekend and discovered a great track on an album called "The Doobie Brothers: Live at the Greek Theatre" from 1982.
Pandora occasionally has some rare cuts of things and they have introduced me to some albums that I have gone out of my way for.


Date: Sat, April 08, 2017, 17:39:28 ET
Posted by: The Charmer,

I checked out the Warner Bros./Reprise official website. They list all of the artists on the roster. Steely Dan, Donald Fagen, and Walter Becker are NOT listed as current artists.

I also went over to the Rhino Records website. They were also not listed as current artists.

While at rhinorecords.com, I did find an interesting review of Can't Buy A Thrill. Here's the link.

http://www.rhino.com/article/bob-lefsetz-welcome-to-my-world-cant-buy-a-thrill


Date: Fri, April 07, 2017, 18:43:22 ET
Posted by: Steve,

Hey KD. That's a good question. I don't have a definitive answer. I was wondering the same about their record contracts. They haven't recorded as Steely Dan in 14 years. Walter's record was on Jimmy Buffett's Mailboat label, And Dagen's Nightfly Trilogy box set seemed to be a wrap on the Warner/Reprise years. Then came Sunken Condos on Reprise. Was that a one-off extention? Etc.etc.etc.

All I know is that I wish their great records got promoted better. I know we all agree.


Date: Fri, April 07, 2017, 18:39:30 ET
Posted by: The Charmer,

Herington and 2012 interviews both great. Keep 'em coming.


Date: Fri, April 07, 2017, 13:49:39 ET
Posted by: CJB, History, baby

Did we discuss this solo DF interview already? Back in 2012?

Found in one of my feeds, just now, while searching for Japanese flight info & ticket pricing. In German; I've provided a link to a Google Translate version of the page.

https://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.faz.net%2Faktuell%2Ffeuilleton%2Fpop%2Fdonald-fagen-im-interview-keine-frau-schaut-mir-noch-hinterher-11932525.html%3FprintPagedArticle%3Dtrue%23pageIndex_2&edit-text=&act=url


Date: Fri, April 07, 2017, 12:16:09 ET
Posted by: Rob, NV

Interview with Herington about upcoming Vegas gigs.

https://lasvegasmagazine.com/entertainment/2017/apr/07/steely-dan-the-venetian/#/0


Date: Fri, April 07, 2017, 00:05:53 ET
Posted by: tkt, tk

Albums dropping out of the blue is all the rage these days--examples include Wilco, Beyonce, Bowie, U2, Kendrick Lamar, and Radiohead. I could see Fagen and Leonhart pulling it off with a small group of guys and a big stack of NDAs.


Date: Thurs, April 06, 2017, 11:29:48 ET
Posted by: popegreg, MKE

While I agree with Ernie that's it's very unlikely that a new DF record would drop without warning, it's also important to note that it's very trendy these days to drop a new release without any advance notice. This is a big thing in R&B, Hip-Hop and even Indie Rock. The buzz that a surprise release generates is often as effective as a pre-release marketing campaign. Of course, DF is not Beyonce, and his demographic would be better served by the traditional release model.


Date: Thurs, April 06, 2017, 20:05:39 ET
Posted by: David, aka The Charmer

Hey Gang!

Thought I would check in. It's been soooo long. Very pumped about the possibility of a Fagen solo tour not to mention the Citi Field show. Hey! It's a big attraction.

Thanks for keeping the Steely Dan Faith.

The Charmer


Date: Thurs, April 06, 2017, 15:07:59 ET
Posted by: Kreg, R

Modern Drummer interview with Steve Gadd. His work on Aja is brought up several times.

https://www.moderndrummer.com/article/may-2017-steve-gadd-innovator/


Date: Thurs, April 06, 2017, 13:13:34 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

In the Fantasy Land defense, at the very least some people in Donald, Azoff, Leonhart or Reprise's camp had a legitimate interest in drumming up some support with information. Even if it was limited to this message board and a pre-sale preview of 'I'm Not the Same Without You' at Rolling Stone's website.

Given the current record company situation for the three, some five years later, could we count on that? If Becker wanted to put a new disc together, is he under contract anywhere? Is Reprise's decades-old association with Donald over?

Does anyone have a clear view of their record company affiliations at this point? Are there any?


Date: Thurs, April 06, 2017, 10:10:47 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Ernie:

Coso acknowledged that a new album likely won't be happening. At the end of their post, Coso says, "I now return you to your non-fantasy programming."

Yes, their post about a new album and the set list was a FANTASY. Please read carefully before criticizing or disagreeing. Fly low, be cool, and give a break.


Date: Thurs, April 06, 2017, 09:31:58 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Because Donald is associated (directly and indirectly) with two of the three assholes mentioned here:

http://deadspin.com/james-dolan-called-me-an-asshole-knicks-fan-says-he-1794049930

... he'll look to play the Theatre in Chicago, if he can fill it. It's a Dolan/MSG building.

Park West would be perfect, it's the best sound in the city and I'm hoping for that because I'd get to see soundcheck. I still remember chatting up Ted Baker about his Bunsen Prize when I worked at the PW in 2002 and Baker played for another asshole in Art Garfunkel. Art berated his band, which included Warren Bernhardt, incessantly during soundcheck and pre-show.

Sorry for all the rude words. Irving Azoff started it.


Date: Thurs, April 06, 2017, 07:23:36 ET
Posted by: Ernie, TX

Coso,

When has an album ever materialized out of nowhere with no credible reports of its progress? Last one, everyone knew he was working on it with Michael Leonhart, the name of the engineer that mastered it was reported, and the track listing was online months before its release. With record sales being what they are these days, I'd think the last thing you'd want to do is have it arrive covertly.


Date: Thurs, April 06, 2017, 00:28:21 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

So I'm wondering where DF might head with his band, a group of Larry Campbell and Amy Helm-like Woodstock-ites to ramble with, or a jazzier group (acoustic or electric), or an attempt to approximate the typical NYC group we saw in 2006?


Date: Thurs, April 06, 2017, 00:11:43 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

It's unlikely but maybe Donald can grab Snarky Puppy as his band for the fall, imagine that would be a nice fit.
Would be a great opportunity for them as well.


Date: Wed, April 05, 2017, 22:17:58 ET
Posted by: Coso, The Mountains

It should be interesting to see what the mixture of solo material is vs. Steely Dan.

For all we know, he could have just finished up a new album and is planning on promoting it.

In the case of no new album, and a set of 16-17 songs, I'd like to see 4 SD songs tops and an equal representation between his solo albums.

Viva Rock 'n Roll
Green Flower Street
IGY
Weather in My Head
Don't Take Me Alive
Rhymes
Springtime
The New Breed
Chain Lightning
Brite Nightgown
New Frontier
I'm Not the Same Without You
Tomorrow's Girls
Countermoon
Teahouse On the Tracks
______________________________
Pretzel Logic
My Old School

I now return you to your non-fantasy programming.


Date: Wed, April 05, 2017, 20:11:19 ET
Posted by: popegreg, MKE

This talk of Midwest solo DF shows has me super excited (even more than I am about seeing Hall & Oates and Tears For Fears in May!).

Hoops is spot on regarding Thalia Hall. It's a beautiful venue inside and out that checks all the right boxes for me. There's the added bonus of being smack dab in Pilsen with all those great Mexican restaurants. I finally got down there in February for George Clinton Parliament/Funkadelic and some amazing pre-show tacos. Great show, I was actually a bit sore the next day from dancing my ass off. My only complaint was the pat down, they wouldn't let me bring a brownie in so I had to eat it before going in. It was one of those special brownies so I peaked a bit earlier than I wanted to for a 3 hour show. ;)

Still, the Chicago Theater seems more likely since SD has done multiple nights there and I can't see DF playing a mostly standing venue like Thalia.

I'll definitely make the trip down to Chicago, should there be a show, but I'm hoping a Milwaukee show is also in the cards. The Riverside would be awesome, but a show at the smaller Pabst Theater would be the coolest show ever. The Pabst is the best live music venue in the world. If ever your favorite artist is playing there you will not be disappointed in the sound, the sight lines, the comfort of the seating, the friendly and accommodating staff, or the price and selection of adult beverages. Plus they never pat you down and would never make you eat your brownie outside. ;)

Fingers crossed that In, the know lived up to the name!


Date: Wed, April 05, 2017, 18:55:33 ET
Posted by: Xavier, PA

I imagine that with this band, Fagen is shaking off the "heavy cats" that make a solo tour hard to pull of financially.


Date: Wed, April 05, 2017, 17:38:29 ET
Posted by: Coso, The Mountains

Not too sound dismissive of SD, but I've been waiting for Donald to do some solo shows for quite a while. I missed the 2006 shows, this looks like it could be a lot of fun and a nice change of pace from the usual!


Date: Wed, April 05, 2017, 16:47:29 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Glad you like it, Aja1. Fun to share the things we know and love with those of our kind.

If Donald Fagen (or Walter Becker or Steely Dan) come to Chicago and play smaller venues, would love if they played Thalia Hall (amazingly like Roseland Ballroom) -- but Park West, Aragon, Riveria, The Vic and few others would do. My hunch is that he'd play Chicago Theatre or Rosemont Theatre.

Check out the photo of Thalia Hall. Saw Joe Jackson there maybe 18 months ago.

http://thaliahallchicago.com/history/


Date: Wed, April 05, 2017, 16:16:52 ET
Posted by: In, the know

Fagen will be doing shows in the USA this summer. With the same band he's using in Japan for thoes Sept gigs. Right now it's only Midwest and West coast dates. The only shows scheduled on the east coast are in Philadelphia and NYC.

This can change.


Date: Wed, April 05, 2017, 15:38:28 ET
Posted by: Aja1, Newton

Hoops, thanks for recommending the New Dylan "Triplicate" album, it is kind of entrancing. I doubt I would have given it a thought if you hadn't mentioned it.


Date: Wed, April 05, 2017, 13:03:25 ET
Posted by: Steve,

Hey KD. Some people are talking about the different band on a Facbook group. They are saying it's a band led by a young guitar prodigy out of Woodstock. His name is Conor Kennedy. He's NOT the same Conor Kennedy who dated Taylor Swift. He IS the same Conor Kennedy that Fagen invited up on stage at the Beacon Theater a few years ago to play on a Steely Dan song. Donald, of course, has a home there with Libby and is very in tune with the Woodstock music scene, to say the least. Even if the rumors are incorrect about Kennedy being on Donald's Japanese dates, he's still someone worth looking up since he has Donald's ear.

One hypotheis (i.e. gossip) is that the Kennedy's band is young enough that they might make the tour more feasible. Another angle is that Donald wants to break out talented up and comers.

More to be revealed, but right now it's plausible Steely Dan water cooler talk with a touch of armchair quarterbacking.

Thanks for the link. Good stuff.


Date: Wed, April 05, 2017, 12:16:05 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Steve, link? It would be great for Fagen to have some fun with it. I'm forever watching the video of him playing acoustic with the Leonharts + guitar, doing one of my favorite songs (and giving co-writer Libby a nod):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-JDwLJhQf4


Date: Wed, April 05, 2017, 11:37:53 ET
Posted by: ., Hong Kong [Really!]

I'll consider going to Tokyo for a show.

Saw the band in Osaka in 2000 at a venue that seated maybe 3-4,000. Club size gig would be different. I imagine a shorter set, and pricey.


Date: Wed, April 05, 2017, 10:14:29 ET
Posted by: Steve,

Interesting discussion in another music forum about how DF's band for the Japan dates will be entrely different players from the Steely Dan Orchestra. If that's true, it will be interesting indeed.


Date: Wed, April 05, 2017, 00:37:41 ET
Posted by: Ed Paisley,



Well, very pumped about the Fagen shows in Japan

That's because if it gpes well there, I think he will play some dates in the US.

I do love hearing Steely Dan every summer, but it will be so cool to hear some solo Fagen that we haven't heard live in over a decade.

Can't help but be excited at the thought. .


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 21:06:40 ET
Posted by: James R., here, now

"It's not funny anymore LaPage."

Truthfully, it never was.

What a waste of time and effort.


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 20:53:29 ET
Posted by: Steve,

From Joni Mitchell's web site, http://jonimitchell.com/music/album.cfm?id=29

"9. “Third World Man” performed by Steely Dan
“I never understood why “Gaucho” didn’t receive the critical acclaim of “Aja”. I’m convinced that if “Gaucho” had come first and then “Aja”, the same thing would have happened in reverse. To maintain this high standard of musicality and storytelling through two projects is most praiseworthy - but there is something ignorant and arbitrary in rock journalism - editorial policy maybe - like ‘We were kind last time, let’s kill ‘em this time!” Or maybe it was like second-date syndrome, where unrealistic expectations eclipse a plenty good reality. Of all the great songs on these two albums, the first to come to mind was ‘Third World Man’.”

The Stevie Wonder comment was from Roger Nichols.


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 20:48:44 ET
Posted by: Jack, NYTimes

Fox News President Bill Shine says Fox News is like the Eagles.

I'm so thankful he didn't say t was like Steely Dan. Whew!

You can't make this shit up:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/opinion/how-is-fox-news-like-the-eagles.html?_r=0


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 20:46:49 ET
Posted by: Fred, etc.

It's not funny anymore LaPage.


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 20:43:45 ET
Posted by: Steve,

Joni Mitchell said that Gaucho is as good as or better than Aja. I agree.

Stevie Wonder has said that The Nightfly is his favorite.


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 19:21:53 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,


In a completely useless exercise I have...

Katy Lied - despite the noise reduction fiasco
The Nightfly
Aja
Royal Scam
Sunken Condos
Gaucho - criminally underrated as a Broadway Musical about L.A.
Two Against Nature - multilayered voices/charts
Morph the Cat
Countdown to Ecstacy
11 ToW - Japanese version with Medical Science
Kamakiriad - horn charts are the highlight besides Tomorrow's Girls, Snowbound, and On the Dunes
Circus $ - best *sounding* recording besides maybe Aja?
Pretzel Logic
Everything Must Go - Blues Beach and Last Mall drag it way down
Can't Buy a Thrill


15 albums and arguably the weakest one is CBAT with 2 smash hits. Think about it.


On the Dunes was written in the 80s. Snowbound, too...near the time of Donald's writer's block. It fits in nicely with Lazy Nina, Big Noise New York, Love Will Make it Right, Century's End...that's what Fagen's aborted 2nd album would have sounded like - a post-modern Cole Porter/Victor Young kinda thing. What could have been...


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 18:50:29 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

KD, regarding Kama, is there a more hypnotic song in all of the SD/DF/WB catalog than On the Dunes? Even more than Third World Man, IMO.


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 18:30:21 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

After his 33-1/3 Aja book came out, I believe there was talk of Don Breithaupt doing a Nightfly book. Hoping some day.


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 17:59:52 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

That's an interesting one ... "listened to the most."

Probably Aja, my favorite, then Royal Scam -- it's my wife's favorite and was in her car for years as a result. Then probably TvN, walked around college and Chicago for ages listening to that on headphones when it came out, followed by Morph, and then (due to parents' influence) Pretzel Logic.

Anyone have any weird ones in the top three?


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 16:31:54 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

I'm with Hoops re: The Nightfly. It's probably the Steely Dan/DF/WB album I've listened to the most and it's still a rewarding listen.




Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 15:10:13 ET
Posted by: Aygett, Osaka

Donald Fagen & The Night Flyers

To the beat of fat R & B, harmony of jazz ... .... Steelley Dan is the group that invented the most sophisticated musicality in the history of rock. Donald Fagen singing while playing the keyboard was playing the main musical aspect of such a super group that gazed attention from the jazz world. Even as a solo, he announced 4 original works from his masterpiece, 1982 'Nightfly' to '2012' Sanken Condos'. Therefore, Fagen opens the golden circuit acquired by Steely Dan in a more ripe form. Although he has a spectacular career, he was born in 1948, so he is in his 60s. It is not old age old yet, it will surely show off <music that is not of this world though it is of this world.


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 13:33:38 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Nightfly is pretty well up there. It's not even my favorite Donald solo album (Kamakiriad, weirdly, still does it for me; Morph at its peaks might be higher than both to these dumb ears), but it did really strike a lot of people in the same way that Aja struck others. It deservedly has turn into Steely Dan's "All Things Must Pass," even if we have little documentation of anything besides Second Arrangement carrying over from Gaucho sessions to Nightfly.

And I can totally see, for some listeners of a certain age, why they would prefer one classic over the other. Aja still has that fusion ring to it, it still has Michael McDonald and overt (in places) disco on it. Nightfly is full of New York players and a lot of Donald singing backup on his own tracks. Both approaches have their brilliant merits, obviously.

Good for Donald for striking up a new band, for what is probably some serious coin for a few appearances.

And Walter? Dude is 67, his dad died young and he was lucky to escape the 1970s with his health and humor and hands. If he doesn't feel like hitting the sheds of the midwest this summer, in 100-degree temps even at night, I can't blame the guy. He's given us more than enough.

(Just one more, though?)


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 13:12:30 ET
Posted by: Uh?, .

Hoops- Do you really believe that?


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 11:45:51 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

The Nightfly is every bit as great and as significant an album as Aja.


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 11:31:57 ET
Posted by: Nat, TX

35 years after it was recorded, The Nightfly is still being used for audio benchmarks.

http://www.techhive.com/article/3187175/speakers/sonos-playbase-review-oddly-enough-it-sounds-better-playing-music-than-movie-soundtracks.html


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 10:53:41 ET
Posted by: Aja,

No. It says nothing about David Palmer, Smartass James from NY.

Buty here's a few bad translations of the Press Release based on various free on-line translators. You get what you pay for. As the cliche goes, something gets lost in translation.

Etranslator:
Fat to the beat of R & B, jazz harmony .... Group that launched the rock history most sophisticated music is, it is Steely Dan. Also received the attention from the jazz world, that was responsible for the main to become music face of such a super-group, Donald Fagen singing while playing the keyboard. He also as a solo, announced the original work of the four 1982 is a masterpiece from "The Nightfly" to "Sunken Condos" of 2012. So, Fagen is open in a more ripe form a circuit of the gold acquired by Steely Dan. Spectacular but has a career, he is 60 generations since the 1948 birth. Rather than at the age Komu aging yet, <to be of this world, music, such as not of this world> must us to show off.

Google Translate:
Fat to the beat of R & B, jazz harmony .... Group that launched the rock history Most sophisticated music is, it is Steely Dan. Also received the attention from the jazz world, that is responsible for the main to to music face He is as a solo, announced the original work of the four 1982 is a masterpiece from "The Nightfly" to "Sunken Condos" of 2012. So, Fagen is open In a more ripe form a circuit of the gold acquired by Steely Dan. Spectacular but has a career, he is 60 generations since the 1948 birth. Rather than at the age Komu aging yet, <to be of this world, music, such as Not of this world> must us to show off.


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 10:45:41 ET
Posted by: James, NY

In case you missed the press release:

 ファットなR&Bのビートに、ジャズのハーモニー……。ロック史上もっとも洗練された音楽性を打ち出したグループが、スティーリー・ダンだ。ジャズ界からも注視を受けた、そんなスーパー・グループの主となる音楽面を担っていたのが、鍵盤を弾きながら歌うドナルド・フェイゲン。彼はソロとしても、代表作である1982年『ナイトフライ』から2012年の『サンケン・コンドズ』まで4枚のオリジナル作を発表。そこで、フェイゲンはスティーリー・ダンで獲得した黄金の回路をより熟した形で開いている。華々しいキャリアを持つものの、彼は1948年生まれなので60代。まだ老けこむ歳ではなく、<この世のものであるのに、この世のものではないような音楽>を披露してくれるに違いない。


Great to read that David Palmer is joining him!


Date: Tues, April 04, 2017, 10:21:39 ET
Posted by: Ed Paisley, Somewhere that's sane

WoW! THAT"S GREAT NEWS!

I wonder who The NIghtflyers will be.

Can't wait to hear more.............Do you think there will be US dates? I'm reminded of a couple of tours where Steely Dan warmed up in Japan first. For some reason Are the Nightflyers a different group than the Steely Dan Orchestra?


Date: Mon, April 03, 2017, 22:10:16 ET
Posted by: Charlie, Tokyo

DONALD FAGEN & The Nightflyers will headline the Blue Note Jazz Festival in Tokyo on September 23 & 24, 2017.

More deets--and US Dates???--to come!

http://bluenotejazzfestival.jp


Date: Mon, April 03, 2017, 19:10:26 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Miserable Old D.P. - Not Mindless Dull Old Poster...I think...

Hoops - Definitely no need to apologize for any technical glitches. I just wanted to clarify that I wasn't participating in or continuing the Snotty Anon Poster Tradition, all while posting something that read like a typical post by yours truly.

And, not to put too fine a point on it, but the acronym is M-O-D-P, not MDOP. Unless we have another wiseass mimic on here again...


Date: Mon, April 03, 2017, 18:51:33 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

M/D/O/P: Sorry about that. Technical issue. Your post is now corrected below...or so I think it is. Again, my apologies.

Best,

Jim


Date: Mon, April 03, 2017, 15:58:09 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Editor's Office

The "bits 'n' pieces" post without a username from April 02, 2017, 23:10:43 ET, right below Doc's "Selfish Gene/Dawkins" post, is mine. For some reason the "M/O/D/P" part didn't post after the time delay (I definitely put it there when I submitted the comment), and even stranger, the quote from Hoops about prizing self-esteem over achievement is also missing (and I know I put the quote in as well). Must be something in the water. Or the "system".


Date: Mon, April 03, 2017, 02:20:53 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,


Lutz: No problem with the musicianship at all on Bob. i guess I should think of the song like a Gaucho outtake and just enjoy the groove. I'll try it. Carlock's drumming is fabulous.

I guess it's too much to hope for the brilliance of Downtown Canon or Selfish Gene??

For the few that don't know Selfish Gene is Walter's amusing take on Richard Dawkins (not surprising for those that breed dogs) argument that genes that encode behavior.
Although Dawkins made his name via lay books (Selfish Gene, Blind Watchmaker). He published letters to Science )Bees are easily Distracted) and Nature (accidentally
suggested that the brain may have neuron turnover before anyone dreamed of such stem cells, and a couple of evolutionary articles about digger wasp behavior.

Walter's anti-hero is a party animal, as another form of loserdom, that also fits as an allegory to our society, where selfish behavior runs amuck. Like the original Dos Equis Most Interesting Man, with less heart. Arguably better than anything Dawkins came up with... in particular because the Blind Watchman paradigm has a major crack as recently espoused by Denis Noble in his recent treatise that epigenetics and other mechanisms link the environment to heredity as genomic adaptation...stay tuned.

"Selfish Gene don't serve two masters"




The Bridge is EPIC, followed by a tasty guitar solo.

Must every time I turn my ship around
Some bastard come and knock my skyline down




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbQ0ybu7SFQ






Date: Sun, April 02, 2017, 23:10:43 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Bits 'n' pieces

6:40 pm, NYC Time, Mon, Apr 3, 2017:The post below is now correct. There was a technical difficulty that omitted some of the lines of text from the original post last evening. Apologies to M/D/O/P and everyone else.

The book mentioned earlier by KD ("The Steely Dan File") is an unqualified mess that combines shockingly poor composition with a noteworthy lack of original content and then adds an unbelievably excessive tally of spelling, grammatical, and typographic errors to create an unreadable shambles of a "book". I know this because I bought the book several years ago, and, even worse, I read it.

It is very hard to imagine that the finished product is anything other than a source of major embarrassment for its author.

I love Circus Money more than I love Tres Generaciones Anejo, and more than I love [insert another of My Favorite Things here], and even more than I love love. Curiously, The title track and "Bob Is Not Your Uncle Anymore" are my two very favorite tracks on the CD. I could try to explain the reasoning behind my feelings, but why bother? They're just "feelings" after all. And what the hell do I know, anyways?

And this quote posted by Hoops is most definitely another Money Quote:

QUOTE: - "Surrounded by affluence, enabled by the internet, and empowered by an educational system that prizes self-esteem over achievement, Americans have become more opinionated even as they have become less informed, and are now utterly intolerant of ever being told they’re wrong about almost anything."

In my own personal experience, the part about the educational system prizing "self esteem" over achievement is particularly salient & timely, and, sadly, you can include Canadians right along with Americans in that overall indictment. And probably the rest of the planet as well, now that the electronic world has overtaken the real one.

Except for the eastern half of the tiny republic of Togo - I think those guys are still OK. Nice, down-to-earth folks, those Eastern Togoans.



Date: Sun, April 02, 2017, 22:56:34 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Many times delayed, hopefully not way too overrated, the latest edition of the Dandom Digest went out in the past hour. It covers January 18-March 31, 2017.

The following are the subjects/headlines of the items in the latest newsletter:

- ON SALE MON 4/3 & 4/7: SD on Classic West and Classic East Bill
- ON SALE: See SD Reel In The Chips All April in NV & CA
- ON SALE: SD Headline Greenwich Town Party

- New Michael Leonhart Interview talks SD

- Steely Dan FAQ: All That's Left To Know About This Elusive Band"
- "Steely Dan FAQ" Out Now
- Re: "Steely Dan FAQ" Out Now
- DF on New Todd Rundgren Album
- Wendel in TECnology Hall of Fame 2017
- DF, Oh Whitney, Magic
- Pete Christlieb Discusses His Deacon Blues Solo
- Jon Herington in Guitar Player
- Guitar Techniques Steely Dan Style
- An Evening with Herington/Beard
- John Wetton Doing it Again
- Love Rocks with Michael McDonald & Catherine Russell
- Mike McD & Pow Wow Do Peg, Kid C.
- Newsweek Interview with Mike McD
- Money House: Missing from Headquartersa
- DF performing Chuck Berry's Viva Viva Rock n Roll on the MTC tour. - - RIP, Chuck Berry



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Fly about as low, be so cool,

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Date: Sun, April 02, 2017, 20:00:42 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

DocMu,
I find 'Bobs uncle' especially strong, I could listen to the drums and bass alone. Sometimes the groove and sound just cuts it for me, there is no need for all these busy time changes or hooks. Different tastes I guess...
Carlock is very proud of it, I had a chance to talk to him after CM was just released when Rudder was playing in town.
Blues beach doesn't rub me the wrong way either, it has a nice flow and groove and is just in the right place imo.
I don't know how many times I listened to that 45 sec snippet that was the first taste of EMG prior to the album...
Why second guess D&W on how the sequence should have been.
I've listened to EMG so many times I might just be used to it, although when Don says 'I love it, it's wicked' that's good enough for me.
I realize, I am one of the few that likes the 2000 - now era a little better than pre '76, with the 3 in between being Nirvana.
Kinda like Zappa I guess, where a majority of fans seems to like anything before Zoot Allures better than the incredible new stuff and updated arrangements of the old with his stellar 1988 band.
No Denny Dias and no Jimmy Carl Black, I get it - but Herington and Wackerman are not merely replacements either...
Sorry for the long winded post.


Date: Sun, April 02, 2017, 19:45:31 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,


I remember an actual shout out to Jon Herrington and the Steely Dan touring band when Daryl Hall was jamming at his House sessions, which are far more interesting than the later 80s albums, with CeLo Green, I believe. Hall I think pays attention to SD recordings...


Oates is like "the other guy" from Wham or Tears for Fears...


Date: Sun, April 02, 2017, 19:41:13 ET
Posted by: Brutus Charisma,



Great new interview w/ Michael Leonhart on Bone 2 Pick w/ Michael Davis.

ML talks SD for about 15 mins. (from around 30:00 - 45:00).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5708xCRgtaE


Date: Sun, April 02, 2017, 15:02:36 ET
Posted by: Robby, East Coast

I saw John Oates' new memoir at the book store. Since we have some Steely Dan fans here on H&O, I scanned the index and there are no entries for Steely Dan or Donald Fagen.


Date: Sun, April 02, 2017, 12:54:36 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,


Triplicate - clean recording. Well-respectful, updated 1950s style recording. Beautiful instrumentation sound with Dean Parks and Charlie Sexton on guitar.

Bob Dylans vocal stylings at 75 - yeah, I'm not get through 3 albums worth of that. ;)


Date: Sun, April 02, 2017, 12:22:36 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Hoops - it's not completely reggae pe se. It's dub, a remixing or reggae to emphasize the drums and bass in extended pieces...as such there's a great tendency to the REPETITIVE. Cool for white kids high on meth at a dance club. More challenging for a listener. Walter on his own does his thing. Most of it works, but it's too challenging a paradigm to fill a complete album. IMO.

I understand why Walter did it. It just gets old without an interesting solo or when a melody or harmonies are going nowhere - like the title track of Bob's Not Your Uncle Anymore. Others may disagree.



Leonhart did fine as I said with a DIY backbone. The drums find the righteous groove, but IMO are just a tad flat because of the manner they were played and close mic'd. Klein would have opened up the sound. Klein's production creates space, live and jazzy. Musicianship and polish on C$ make it *sound* better that 11 ToW, but besides for Downtown Canon and Paging Audrey I find 11 ToW actually to be stronger. Both albums are good and hold their own with the complete SD/solo catalog.


I find the "singles" on TvN and EMG to be by far the weakest tracks. I'm still puzzled how Cousin Dupree made it and Westside Story did not.

EMG is far stronger on the back end. The Last Mall and Blues Beach really hurt the critical response and sales on EMG...by that time I felt D&W really didn't care if they were rewarded as on TvN. The abrupt ending of The Last Mall, signifies a nookular explosion and this is more fitting for the very end of the album. Given the intro to the title track emulates Coltrane's Ascension, I'd place it up front:

The correct order should be:

Everything Must Go - Awesome starter that sets the album paradigm

Lunch with Gina - The lead single. It's the obvious live party vibe song...and the Great Repress

Pixeleen - 2nd single where movie, video, comics merge into one

Greenbook - Yes, the internet moved from NSF, file sharing and academia to porn and snark. Stellar track and battle of the solos!

Slang of Ages - Walter skips Dimensions and set up the next track. Underrated, loungy blues jazz hybrid and delivery

Godwhacker - Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam adventure, hired to take out Mr. Big. Return of the synth blues harp.

Blues Beach - Nookyular soured take on a Laura Nyro 60s pop vein. Weird. Substitute Wetside Story in here and the album is even better.

Things I Miss the Most. Fantastic song - the quips about the Andrea Doria and meditation are classic. I'd rethink the rhythm section arrangement to a semi-shuffle (like a poppy Boz Scaggs' Miss Sun to go with the depressing lot the protagonist is in), but very strong recording.

The Last Mall - That Gospel Mornin' someone drops The Big One on Mango Duce.


In this reverse order, EMG is a GREAT album.


EMG is less layered and more straightforward in arrangements than TvN, but the live, and virtually all analog, recording still works as do the themes and song topics. Maybe even more than they did in 2003!






Date: Sat, April 01, 2017, 19:35:36 ET
Posted by: Steve, Here

Sounds pretty good, Hoops! I've been listening to The Nightfly as well as Tears for Fears Greatest Hits. I know, I deserve to be flame for the last one. Go ahead everyone. Guilty pleasure. Got stuck in my brain after they were paired up with Hall and Oates for the summer tour.


Date: Sat, April 01, 2017, 17:16:11 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago

BTW: What am I listening to a lot these day?

The Everything Must Go (EMG) album and now Bob Dylan's new one, "Triplicate." I'm calling the style of Dylan's new one "roadside lounge." I love it so far. Have only listed to 1 and half CDs of the three CD set. I haven't read the credits but I can't help but think it sounds like Dean Parks is on it--but he's on everything recorded near LA. right? I also loved Dylan's previous two new albums which were in a similar vein.

Back to EMG, I'm appreciating it more than ever. "Things I Miss the Most" is such a funny answer to version of "My Favorite Things." I could carry on about every track. Very solid. Again, never a bad track on a Steely Dan album. 100% meat--no filler.

Jim


Date: Sat, April 01, 2017, 17:08:16 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago

This story doesn't have any direct SD content but it reminds me of our current Internet culture (as manifested here on the Blue and elsewhere) and is in response to Just Sayin' and The Money Quote:

"Surrounded by affluence, enabled by the internet, and empowered by an educational system that prizes self-esteem over achievement, Americans have become more opinionated even as they have become less informed, and are now utterly intolerant of ever being told they’re wrong about almost anything."

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-real-reason-americans-cant-agree-on-unemployment-or-just-about-anything-else-2017-03-29

I don't generally care for Gothic and Goth design, although there are exceptions. At the same time I appreciate when people do a good job of designing something that happens to be Gothic or Goth.

And somehow that conveys why I find it annoying when people just dismiss something Steely Dan comnected without offering reasons that are more in-depth.

=======

I don't know who said it here, but they said that they didn't understand why there was so much reggae influence on Circus Money. Actually, in my opinion, the reggae makes as much sense as a Steely Dan album being influenced by jazz.

I've looked for it but can't find where in the months leading up to the release of Circus Money, Walter (or perhaps his website) talked about how and why reggae was going to be a major influence. Specific reggae albums were cited and maybe I have my lines crossed, but I believe part of it was about Walter exploring the connection between bass and reggae. Those "writhings" and suggested recordings set me up to really appreciate Circus Money much as had his work with RLJ and DF set me up to appreciate 11 Tracks of Whack. (Later, I appreciated 'Whack" more when I also "got" China Crisis' "Flaunt the Imperfection." As far as I know, Fagen wasn't involved in "Flaunt...", but I sure hear all sorts of Steely Dan underpinnings in arrangements, progressions, "musical humor" and more that could only have come via Walter.)

So on Circus Money it's got two great bassists, Walter and Larry Klein, using reggae as a baseline/bassline -- and we all know how bass is such a fundamental part of reggae. What a great starting point.

Like someone else mentioned, some of these tracks are as sublime as those on Aja. I'm thinking Downtown Canon, and especially Paging Audrey which in my book is as sublime as Deacon Blues. I love every track on Circus Money.

Someone ( I lose track of names here) said that they would have liked to have had Larry Klein work with Donald on Sunken Condos. I think Michael Leonhart did a great job on Sunken Condos, but I'm not sure Klein and Fagen would have had the right chemistry. Not saying "no" but my own ponderings make me wonder. I will save for some other discussion. I will say, Klein's work on Circus Money changed my mind about something I used to post regularly: I now DO think someone else other than Donald and Walter (like Klein) could produce a new Steely Dan album. I just don't think we will ever see another new SD album. The best I hope for is maybe a release of official, polished versions of unreleased stuff. It would be great to finally have an official "Second Arrangement," "Kulee Baba," etc. Yet, I'm not sure D + W would want to revisit that "ancient history."

That's all for now.

Best,

Jim


Date: Sat, April 01, 2017, 15:15:37 ET
Posted by: Sid, San Diego CA

I prefer 11 Tracks of Whack over Circus Money. My favorite Walter Becker solo track is Surf and/or Die. I agree with Abu. Too much reggae on Circus Money.


Date: Sat, April 01, 2017, 15:06:54 ET
Posted by: Just Sayin',

The Money Quote, wrote:

"'Everyone's got an opinion on the Internet but few argue it responsibly.'

And it's not likely to get any better anytime soon.

Not as long as enough internetty types think that juvenile insults + name calling =
a cogent argument. You know, something a six year old might believe.

To be fair, it's not just here, it's everywhere. Remember when the internet seemed
to hold so much promise? Now look at the damn thing... "

Years ago, I just thought that the trolly behavior here was simply a distortion of Steely Dan's astute snarkiness. A tad comparable in spirit to Stalin twisting Marxism or St Paul twisting the Gospel.

Now "it's just not here, it's everywhere."

Indeed it's even all the way at the top in the White House.

"And it's not likely to get any better anytime soon."

I guess SD culture was ahead of the curve again.

--Just sayin'


Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 22:52:48 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Ph-reD: Can't disagree.

The book to get is Don B's on Aja...for a learning experience.

While I think the songs are more consistent, yet varied in style and approaches...C$ has Larry Klein's production, the SD band, the Sound and mix, and some of Walter's best songs going for it: Downtown Canon, Paging Audrey, Selfish Gene, God's Eye View, Three Picture Deal, Upside looking down...but the dub stuff gets repetitive. Bob's Not Your Uncle Anymore and the title track are awful. Walter sometimes runs out of this to say on the last verse, but the the pen is sharp, it's spectacular.

Downtown Cannon and Paging Audrey are as good as anything on Aja or Katy Lied.

Ideally, Larry would have produced Sunken Condos...and it's not as sophisticated in arrangements as TvN, but I think Sunken Condos is the best album of the Dan/solo discography since the Nightly. Michael Leonard and Donald whipped up a delicious concoction. Crisp, Sharp. and very alive, despite the DIY backbone. It shines. A case in translation is the deep bloom of sound when one of the more straightforward tracks Weather in My Head was played live on Letterman. Wow.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DznqCMpcQxQ


Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 22:13:20 ET
Posted by: Abu, Jamaica, Queens or Jamaica?

Circus Money is very good lyrically. There is no doubt where much of the twisted story-lines of SD originate. The musicians are without a doubt top notch. My biggest "complaint" (for lack of a better word) is... what is with all the reggae? I don't get it, perhaps. Just one man's opinion.


Date: Fri, March 31, 2017, 20:13:45 ET
Posted by: The Money Quote, Right Here

"Everyone's got an opinion on the Internet but few argue it responsibly."

And it's not likely to get any better anytime soon.

Not as long as enough internetty types think that juvenile insults + name calling = a cogent argument. You know, something a six year old might believe.

To be fair, it's not just here, it's everywhere. Remember when the internet seemed to hold so much promise? Now look at the damn thing...



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