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Date: Sat, September 22, 2018, 11:07:36 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Best "Cover" of Weather in my Head was the Nightflyers. Connor Kennedy rocks the solo!

Date: Fri, September 21, 2018, 21:16:49 ET
Posted by: Abu, CA

Nate from PA, your friend's cover is nicely done. Perhaps you can convince him to do another Fagen, or even a Becker cover in the future. There are not many decent covers of Sunken Condos stuff, with the exception of a excellent quality cover of Good Stuff by Bradley Smith, and two versions of Weather in my Head, one by the Chris Baum Project and the other by the Kites.

Date: Thurs, September 20, 2018, 22:38:54 ET
Posted by: FF, D2

Don should do a song about mopeds and make them cool like he did with bowling.

Date: Thurs, September 20, 2018, 21:32:33 ET
Posted by: Nate, PA

Guy I know did a pretty good cover of Miss Marlene.

Date: Thurs, September 20, 2018, 20:02:22 ET
Posted by: ,

"Only One Season" is my favorite so far of the posthumously-released tracks. Thank you, again, Walter Becker Media, for releasing the tracks. A real treat!

Date: Wed, September 19, 2018, 08:50:56 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Bern, he comes out at the same time with the Danettes.

The show is basically the same, except for the one thing that makes it completely different and still a little alien.

Structurally, superficially, it hasn't really changed. Jazz instrumental opener, main set, band intros towards the end, outro after the encore, etc.

Date: Tues, September 18, 2018, 22:06:25 ET
Posted by: Bern, MD

I haven't seen an SD show without Walter. I know the band used to come out first and then Don and Walt together. I can't imagine Donald wanting to do that alone. How does that progress now?

Date: Tues, September 18, 2018, 15:19:42 ET
Posted by: Jim , Aka hoops


Thank you for your interest and reaching out.

Waiting on a bit of newsnothing earth shattering, but of a timely nature nevertheless.

So hold onto your horses, and expect to get things finalized within 24-48 hrs.

Again, thank you.


A.k.a. hoops

Date: Tues, September 18, 2018, 14:13:30 ET
Posted by: Clara Peller, on line at wendy's

Where's the digest that was promised?

Date: Mon, September 17, 2018, 18:41:06 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl.

Seven years goes by fast.

Date: Mon, September 17, 2018, 17:03:28 ET
Posted by: Barney Beacon, is back!

I love Circus Money. Not a huge fan of 11TOW. Not a fan of "Our Lawn". Then again, I dig Steely because of Fagen's voice.

Date: Sat, September 15, 2018, 13:33:51 ET
Posted by: Wayne, ME

Anyone hear a Neil Young influence in This All Too Mobile Home?

Date: Sat, September 15, 2018, 11:47:02 ET
Posted by: Nate, PA

Our Lawn?! Holy shit. I've wanted to hear this for a while, but does anyone know where to find a high quality live version? The only one I've found is very low quality and hard to hear. Nonetheless, this is pretty freakin cool.

Date: Fri, September 14, 2018, 19:13:16 ET
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Date: Fri, September 14, 2018, 15:54:09 ET
Posted by: WB Mod, front porch

"Hey, you galdurn whippersnappers, get the heck off OUR LAWN!

Date: Fri, September 14, 2018, 12:20:38 ET
Posted by: Robert Z, NYC ,NY

Dylan's 7 night Beacon Theatre run -

Date: Thurs, September 13, 2018, 20:04:14 ET
Posted by: Abu, Waiting for Friday

Thanks Don B for the updates on Wednesday and another on Thursday about Friday, the new Monkey House album. Can't wait! Would love if you guys do a tour this time. It would be awesome, I'm sure. One would expect, of course, that the album will have to be released on a Friday.

Date: Thurs, September 13, 2018, 10:29:47 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

A new Dandom Digest will be coming out in the next 48-36 hours. This is an opportunity to reach over 1,000 long-time Steely Dan fans who, although may not be able to follow every Steely-related micomovement like those of us on Facebook and other social media outlets, still like to check in for The Big News. Please submit any special stories or info that you would like to see included with 24-48 hours...If you have something that you would like to propose, but need time, let me know and I will "hold the door." Please contact me via jjmckay AT me DOT com.

If you wish to subscribe to the Dandom Digest, check out or email me at jjmckay AT me DOT com .

The Dandom Digest, founded in 1993 as it traces its roots to the University of Ilinois at Urbana-Champaign, is believed to be the first and oldest Steely Dan fan resource on the Internet--always not-for-profit and ad-free for over 25 years.

So far we have topics ranging from Beacon and UK tours; dbase events/adds; links to several interviews including with Larry Carlton and Steve Gadd; and more.

Thanks for your support and love.

Jim aka hoops

Date: Thurs, September 13, 2018, 09:09:41 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles

Lutz, ain't no praise higher than that! The new Monkey House will also feature The Manhattan Transfer, and, on the opening track, the incredible Montreal-based saxophonist Francois D'Amours, who is bananas good. He channels Brecker and Tom Scott, and never has a bad take. Longtime Gino Vannelli sideman.

Date: Wed, September 12, 2018, 23:26:24 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Don, that's fantastic news! Can't wait for the new one.
In my house, your music is among the most listened to / never gets old material.
Usually after spinning some tunes a lot, a little fatigue sets in and it's shelved for a while.
Don's, Walt's and your stuff is so different.
Also - major compliments to your band. If we didn't know, we would be guessing who's who and throw around some very famous names.
Congrats on all around superiority!

Date: Wed, September 12, 2018, 18:48:26 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles

Hey Abu, thanks for keeping the fire! I can confirm the participation of both Michael Leonhart and Drew Zingg in the forthcoming Monkey House album FRIDAY — also Snarky Puppy guitar slinger Mark Lettieri.

Date: Wed, September 12, 2018, 09:36:43 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

BHSyd - Nope

Date: Wed, September 12, 2018, 08:27:35 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, received email...

4-Pack pricing available for October 24th (Countdown to Ecstasy) and October 29th (The Nightfly) for $101.

Date: Wed, September 12, 2018, 06:40:49 ET
Posted by: BHSyd, Down Under

Does Walter Becker play guitar (uncredited) on the track "Memorabilia" on Sunken Condos? I'm referring to the subtle finger/thumb picked electric guitar which is low in the mix in the left speaker.

Date: Mon, September 10, 2018, 22:04:58 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Gettin' stoked for NYC in the fall!

Date: Sat, September 08, 2018, 18:37:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach. It's Happy Hour!

Bob, somehow your link is missing the ".com" in the url. This link should work:

Thanks for the heads-up.

Date: Sat, September 08, 2018, 15:00:54 ET
Posted by: Angry Bob, relaxing

New article appeared yesterday entitled "The Top Uses of Steely Dan Songs in Movies or TV". Link below:


Date: Wed, September 05, 2018, 22:55:02 ET
Posted by: Earthbound Keith, Laughalot, IN

Question for peeps with “front row” tickets for Larry Carlton at
Indy Jazz Fest, coming right up: If you are a couple that would
like to sit at our 4-top table at Rathskeller, please holler soon
to my email above and I can give names to reserve for table.

Much aloha,

Date: Wed, September 05, 2018, 22:34:19 ET
Posted by: Maybe you've seen this, But it was new to me

Homer singing Dirty Work.

Date: Tues, September 04, 2018, 16:05:25 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

I'm sorry I missed True Companion live. What a tremendous songs. It's quite some time for the vocals to begin, but the higher than tight harmonies are worth the wait.

Date: Mon, September 03, 2018, 23:58:18 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

In 1993, I went to the first Steely Dan concert in Detroit. When Walter sang the then unknown songs, everyone started talking or taking a rest room break. Ditto for “True Companion”--a wonderfully low-key song ruined by the audience chit-chatting during a lesser known cut. So two nights later, for the Poplar Creek show, I had second row seats. I decided I'd make a sign that said something like, "Thank you for singing, Walter" that I displayed when Walter sang and people started gabbing, etc. So at that time, anyone on the Dandom Digest who wanted a sign, I'd print one up and send it them to display during Walter's vocal performance. I understand that a couple of times, Walter acknowledged the signs. Maybe four or five shows each tour, three or four of us holding them up at shows on the '93, '94 (the first year of Danfests) and '96. So it wasn't like crazy everywhere, we Danfans had a great time supporting WB in our own, cute way.

So there was a slightly different sign for '96. McDonald's had this sandwich called the Arch Deluxe that was "Adult food for Adult Tastes" or some slogan like that. The sign was a variation the logo for the sandwich which McD discontinued not too long afterwards. I held up one if these signs at Tinley Park, IL, East Troy,WI and George, WA. I know I sent out another three or four to people at shows I didn't attend. Shoreline was one.

In retrospect, I really don’t like the idea of comparing Walter to fast food, since Walter is a total class act, but then I suppose The sandwiches was marketed as a classy alternative to Big Macs. but like I said, we all had our heart in the right place, with a lot of love for Walter. It was all part of a very sweet and fun time.

We still miss you so much, Walter.

Date: Mon, September 03, 2018, 20:27:38 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Toronto

Miss you Walt.

Date: Mon, September 03, 2018, 17:17:16 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

UK stadium tour. Yacht goes Arena.

Date: Mon, September 03, 2018, 17:16:07 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

One year ago this morning, forever in memoriam. From the highest high after Donald Fagen and the Nightflyers concert in Austin where they set the place on fiyah, to the lowest low the following morning. Am still in recovery and rehab.

Walt's spirit lives on in the music, spurious writings and quips and clips, the band, and Greenbooks everywhere.

Date: Mon, September 03, 2018, 11:54:13 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Miss you Walt.

Date: Mon, September 03, 2018, 09:00:17 ET
Posted by: Marc, T

Interesting that on Sep. 3, they announced a tour starting on Feb 20.

Date: Mon, September 03, 2018, 05:22:53 ET
Posted by: Robert,

Breaking News for Danheads in Europe: February tour of the UK! Dates on!

Date: Thurs, August 30, 2018, 22:00:27 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown

New web pages design

Coming up on the anniversary of his passing - irreplaceable WB

Date: Thurs, August 30, 2018, 21:11:04 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Caveat emptor

The Dean - Sure, we saw Steely Dan (in extra-fine form, by the way) at The Beacon, front 'n' center in 2015, but have you forgotten the 2016 show (they called it, "The Most Incredible Night Of Whatever" or some such silly promotional silliness) where we sat in the second row of The Loge, but almost all the way to the stage left side of things? Neither one of us complained about anything being obstructed that night. Not that I remember, anyways. Maybe your friends were suffering from some other kind of obstruction?

And as far as the figure I posted from that peer reviewed study, I'm somewhat embarrassed to admit here that the 18.6% number quoted was a typographical error on my part. The actual number should read, "68.1%". What's the damn point of quoting a scientific study if you're gonna get it wrong? No point at all, and I'm glad I had this opportunity to set the record right. And, of course that figure does include those pre-and-post show appearances you allude to. As it should.

Date: Thurs, August 30, 2018, 11:25:21 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

I'll mostly echo what M/O/D/P has to say, with just a couple caveats.

M/O/D/P and I had fantastic seats front and center of the loge, at the Beacon. Great seats. Great sound. Friends of mine were also sittin in the front loge, but far to the left (stage right). My buddy complained he could not see everyone in the band and felt as though the seat should have been labeled "obstructed view". IMO the reality is probably the seats are unobstructed for most acts. But for ensembles as large as Steely Dan, seats far to either end could result in less than a complete view of the band.

So yes, the lodge is a GREAT place to see a show. But you may want to be careful about the extreme angles. I like to stick to the center section, or the most center of either left or right sections. Tends to be best for the sound, too.

I'd like to think I added slightly more than an additional 18.6% to the experience. But then again, I'm taking the pre and post show appearances into consideration.

Date: Wed, August 29, 2018, 17:04:50 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, About one hour north of The Beacon right now

Bookkeeper's Son - I'll chime in with my two cents. The Loge is one of my favorite places to sit and see a live show. Decent sound (although acoustically it isn't Massey Hall)and good, clear sightlines. I would say that as nice as it is to sit in the front row, it isn't worth the price when you can get tickets just a few rows back (there are only nine rows) - essentially the same view - for significantly less. I don't believe there are any "bad" seats or obstructed view seats. For example, here are some current prices for Nightfly night:

Loge (front row) - $300.00 (plus the usual bend-over-and-take-THAT! fees/charges)


Loge (3rd row) - An only slightly less punitive $246.00 ("plus")


Loge (4th row through 9th row) - How about $156.00 (plus the mandatory TicketBastard cornholing)? That sounds better, no?

My advice? If you have the chance, see a Steely Dan show from the Loge. If you can, be sure to sit next to The Dean. As great as the show may end up being, the decision to sit next to that guy will make the event at least 18.6% more enjoyable than it otherwise would have been. According to a recent peer reviewed study conducted by me, that is.


Date: Wed, August 29, 2018, 10:38:02 ET
Posted by: Fred, Derf

Amazing piece on Larry Carlton:

Date: Wed, August 29, 2018, 09:35:33 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

Thinking about going to a show or two with SD residency at the Beacon. How are seats in the Loge section that theater? Are there ones to avoid or are all basically the same. Thanks!!

Date: Sat, August 25, 2018, 08:44:36 ET
Posted by: ws, k

Date: Tues, August 21, 2018, 18:32:40 ET
Posted by: Abu, Friday at Monkey House

Have not seen anything posted here of late: Don Breithaupt posted on his Monkey House page on Facebook a couple of weeks ago that the new album will be called "Friday". He says that the mixes are underway. Last word from Don was he was expecting a late 2018 or early 2019 release date. Can't wait!

Date: Sun, August 19, 2018, 13:50:35 ET
Posted by: SD, expert level trivia

Pat Benetar had a song called Hell is for Children about the physical abuse of children which somewhat incongruously shared album space with the hit single Hit Me with your Best Shot.

Explain how Katy Lied is similarly creepy.

Date: Sun, August 19, 2018, 13:04:29 ET
Posted by: Al, PA

At Blossom in Ohio, a much more frugal culture than New Jersey, there were signs warning "mud sliders will be prosecuted" when I went to the 2003 SD show there. I wonder what the penalty is.

Date: Sun, August 19, 2018, 12:47:07 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, NJ

MY OLD ...

In the days following the SD show at the PNC Bank Arts Center. I was hoping to post thoughts about the show while the memory was fresh and new in my mind... but I didn't.

So I'll just type some things that I can remember...

The show was not sold out. I was at the show alone... I spent part of the Doobie Brothers' set moving forward from my cheap seat in the back of the amphitheater down toward the orchestra. I approached this "self-upgrade" process deliberately... Before the show, from the Ticketbastard website, I made screenshots and printouts... creating a "treasure map" of sections and available seats. By the end of the Doobies' set, I had managed to get all the way down to orchestra left, around tenth row. Doobie Brothers sounded great, as expected. Before the Doobie set ended... JACKPOT! I spotted a used orchestra seat ticket on the floor. This scrap of paper assured that during the intermission, I could leave the orchestra section and easily walk back in past any usher.

Intermission doobie...

The band was hot so... Tight as always. Great enthusiastic hometown crowd.

First four usual numbers... Then a welcome surprise: "FM"... Far out, man.
Donald in good voice...

Jon Herrington sounded great as usual. Herrington switching back and forth from lead to rhythm when he has to -- though effortless... it just doesn't cut it. I remember thinking several times that they really *need* two guitars.

Towards the end Donald introduces Connor Kennedy, who played on the last three numbers, which included the encore.

For laughs -- I pulled a Bic lighter from my pocket and held the flame high, amidst all the smartphone screens while we stood and clapped and cheered awaiting the encore.

It was good to see Jon Herrington singing backup for the encore - Reelin' In The Years...

During A Man Ain't Supposed to Cry, when Donald exied to stage right and Connor Kennedy exited to the left...

Date: Sat, August 18, 2018, 01:01:09 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Angry Bob,

It's more like Hey 90! now

"He wears a hearing aid..."

Date: Fri, August 17, 2018, 12:53:42 ET
Posted by: Angry Bob, working

Sorry Chet, no links available right now.

Date: Fri, August 17, 2018, 11:04:09 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, D

This one will probably seem especially old right now
maybe this will make us All Less Angry, Bob
No, it isn't Bodhizzzhatva... Thanks to God!

Date: Thurs, August 16, 2018, 23:42:37 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, Here

R.I.P. Aretha

Date: Thurs, August 16, 2018, 23:02:07 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, There

A-Bob, that's such old news.

Date: Thurs, August 16, 2018, 12:41:40 ET
Posted by: Angry Bob, at work

Sorry to hear about the passing of Aretha Franklin. I just read in The Washington Post orbituary that Aretha Franklin considered suing Steely Dan over Hey 19 with its reference to a teenager so young "she don't remember the queen of soul".

Date: Thurs, August 16, 2018, 10:51:31 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

RIP Queen of Soul.

Hard times befallen we Soul Survivors.

Aretha's music lives on.

Date: Thurs, August 16, 2018, 10:33:42 ET
Posted by: Nik, P

Always remember the Queen of Soul.

Date: Thurs, August 16, 2018, 10:04:54 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

August 16:

The day we will always remember “nothing but blues and Elvis“ and we will always remember the Queen of Soul. RIP, Aretha (& Elvis, too).

Date: Wed, August 15, 2018, 22:12:19 ET
Posted by: ccw, ny

That version of "American Lovers" is beautiful, never heard it before, thanks CJB.

Date: Wed, August 15, 2018, 12:52:44 ET
Posted by: Angry Bob, listening to Pat Metheny

Nicholas is correct. YouTube and music streaming services have certainly changed the entire landscape for music fans. Heck, the entire ECM jazz catalogue is now on all the streaming platforms and I love everything that label puts out. I still buy CDs though. Some artists like John Zorn, Maria Schneider and King Crimson are not releasing their music for streaming. If you want CD sound quality then you can subscribe to Tidal for $19.99 monthly.

Date: Wed, August 15, 2018, 09:55:58 ET
Posted by: popegreg, High in the Custerdome

Angry Bob, sure, as long as you don't care about sound quality. A properly mastered CD is always going to sound better than an mp3 (a lossy format) or a youtube stream. Of course you still need to have decent gear in order to reap the benefits of a CD, or vinyl, or lossless files.

Date: Wed, August 15, 2018, 08:17:19 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Alas, the most recent posts illustrate why there is much less money than there used to be in creating, producing, and releasing new recorded music. I'm not criticizing the posters, just commenting that the exchange shows the state of the world today. Sure, come fans will buy full albums, but many (most?) will buy download selected songs or listen on youtube and be satisfied.

Add to that the way that many people get music today - monthly subscription services. With all you can eat for $10 per month, how much can actually go to the artist - except for the lucky few who make highly publicized playlists. There's much about that model that I don't understand - including what I'm supposed to do with access to millions of songs and how I zero in on what I want. Nevertheless, it's a low cost alternative to buying a few albums each month.

I'm sure that I've unwittingly revealed much ignorance about the music business with this post, c'est la vie.

Date: Tues, August 14, 2018, 20:00:27 ET
Posted by: Abu, Shuffling with Dinah

Even better (perhaps), one can download the individual songs for 99 cents each if you don't want the entire CD. On Amazon, of course.

Date: Tues, August 14, 2018, 14:46:27 ET
Posted by: Angry Bob, at work

Why should I buy Kenny Vance's Lost & Found Archives Volumes 1 & 2 when I can listen to it for free on YouTube? These albums are on various music streaming services or you can buy them as MP3 downloads for $8.99 each on Amazon.

Date: Tues, August 14, 2018, 09:38:09 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Rarities Day 2018

Kenny Vance's "Lost & Found Archives Volume 1", while apparently not quite as rare as Volume 2, does contain the rare "Shuffling Up Your Downs" featuring Donald Fagen on piano and Walter Becker on electric bass:

Musician credits confirmed with the Steely Dan database, of course:

Date: Tues, August 14, 2018, 09:25:25 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, 2011 Rarities Night Completists' Dept.

Speaking of Kenny Vance, it looks like his rare "Lost & Found Archives Volume 2" CD is even rarer than "Volume 1". But still available - like most of the rare items on eBay. The track listing on Volume 2 is particularly rare (see second image):

Date: Tues, August 14, 2018, 01:45:30 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

Oh hey now. Something old, something "rare":

Date: Tues, August 14, 2018, 00:00:14 ET
Posted by: popegreg, MKE

Hoping for the best for The Queen of Soul. I just saw her live last year at Ravinia and she was fantastic despite my deep sadness on that day, September 3, 2017.

Date: Mon, August 13, 2018, 19:59:56 ET
Posted by: JDL, et.

Sad to hear about Aretha Franklin.

Dangentially related: Eugene Pitt, lead singer of The Jive Five, who covered Hey Nineteen, died a little over a month ago.

Date: Mon, August 13, 2018, 16:27:45 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, A case of the Mondaze in Indy

The Queen of Soul needs prayers in Detroit.

Date: Mon, August 13, 2018, 15:49:16 ET
Posted by: Angry Bob, back to work

Singer-Songwriter Peter More will release his debut solo album Beautiful Disrepair on August 24. It was completely produced by Donald Fagen. Here's a link which contains the first single "Country Love Song". Give it a listen:

Date: Mon, August 13, 2018, 15:03:46 ET
Posted by: Angry Bob, Lunch Break

Here's another video that might interest SD fans. It's The Sligo Jazz Project Big Band with Liane Carroll performing Donald Fagen's The Goodbye Look. They are based in Ireland and recently played the whole Nightfly album. It was arranged for big band and singers by Malcolm Edmonstone. It swings!

Date: Mon, August 13, 2018, 12:36:12 ET
Posted by: Angry Bob, drinking coffee

Here's Larry Carlton playing Josie on August 3, 2018 at The Town Crier Cafe in Beacon New York:

And BadSneakers, start posting some NEW videos for a change.

Date: Mon, August 13, 2018, 12:07:39 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, whatever

Oh, the shame! the humiliation!
A-Bob, thanks for letting me know how wrong re-posting was.

You're welcome Chris. I'm glad somebody saw the usefulness in re-posting the link. The original post was pushed way down after a spate of faith healer scams and the yacht-rock discussion.

Date: Mon, August 13, 2018, 11:06:48 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

I actually missed that video the first time around (I did see some other vids with Connor but not Bodhisattva) so I'm glad it was posted again. Moreover, it's unlisted on YouTube, so there's no way anyone who missed the first post would stumble upon it.

Date: Mon, August 13, 2018, 01:23:45 ET
Posted by: Shannon, Cleveland

Yacht Rock is a very derogatory term. Makes me feel ashamed to be a Steely Dan fan.

Date: Sun, August 12, 2018, 21:19:30 ET
Posted by: Abu, Funny Music

Who knows, maybe Donald would think that "Yacht Rock" is alright. After all, he said he liked jazz, "fake jazz", and "fake fake jazz".

Date: Sun, August 12, 2018, 16:58:53 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach. Sauce making Sunday!

Bob, why so angry? BadSneakers posted that video exactly TWICE, as far as I can tell. He's also has plenty of helpful/interesting posts.

AngryBob has only contributed one, worthless post.

Figure out who will get the benefit of the doubt, and some respect, here.

With that said, I'm with the group that thinks the entire "yacht rock" thing is lame. Yes, there was a bit of humor, and fortunately Walt and Don played along. I mean, why not? But seriously, it isn't all that funny.

90% of the music (total ballpark estimate) that was deemed "yacht" by the originators is pure dreck. Just my opinion, of course.

Date: Sun, August 12, 2018, 09:54:48 ET
Posted by: Angry Bob, Just woke up

BadSneakers...stop reposting the same video on this board. It's very annoying. Thank you.

Date: Fri, August 10, 2018, 20:24:55 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, NJ


Date: Fri, August 10, 2018, 16:26:56 ET
Posted by: Gil, C

I think everyone has known about episode 10 for 10 years now and knows what they think of the whole Yacht Rock thing. It's not like this stuff was released last Tuesday.

Date: Fri, August 10, 2018, 14:55:12 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

To get a spam loan application off of the top of the Blue, I posted that XM Radio's Yacht Rock station was playing a lot of SD. Apologies to all concerned for the ensuing imbroglio.

Date: Fri, August 10, 2018, 13:36:59 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Hank - You'd like Walter's Birth of the Cruel comments on the update liner notes on the 1999 remaster of Gaucho.

Date: Fri, August 10, 2018, 13:34:58 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

The Yacht Rock series was probably inspired by the SCTV skit montage beginning with a spoof of a Canadian morning show (Gerry Todd)... with the then ubiquitous McDoobies voicing over blurbs and commercials, and then Rick Moranis (Tomorrow's Girls video) as Michael McDonald, the world's greatest backup singer, dashing from session to session.

Episode 10 with the Iggles and W&D characters is very good, and much of the episodes are pretty jokey.

Don Henley char: "Listen, is that dark sarcasm?" while listening to Royal Scam tracks, and then hit the magic moment in Everything You Did."

Date: Fri, August 10, 2018, 12:55:39 ET
Posted by: Hank, CA

Donald Fagen needs to denounce the Yacht Rock genre. Pat Metheny was once called a Smooth Jazz artist but he came out and publicly condemned it. Pat said Smooth Jazz makes him want to vomit.

Date: Fri, August 10, 2018, 12:28:37 ET
Posted by: hoops,


I’ve never heard a fart joke on yacht rock.

I think there’s a disconnect between what you are saying what I’m saying.

As I said, fortunately you don’t have to be a fan of Yacht Rock, to be a Steely Dan fan. I appreciate it enhances your appreciation of Steely Dan someways.

Best regards,


Date: Fri, August 10, 2018, 09:53:26 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

the Yacht Rock shorts were filmed for Channel 101 back in 2005-06, based on immediate audience approval from the live showings on Sunday evenings. The audience would choose which shows would appear on the next Sunday's live showing, crews would have a week to create the next episode.

So, there wasn't much room for this:

"From what I have seen of the episodes, Yacht Rock does litle if anything to skewer the critics of those who don't appreciate the true musicians of Steely Dan. Those critics deserve it even more."

It's a comedy show. Good christ. They didn't really have a lot of time to advance the whole "let's skewer some Steely Dan critics" subplot. In 2005.

Anything else is just showing our asses. It's not the creators' fault that the cheeks are showing. It's not satire, there's little grand plan, it's just a celebration with stupid jokes and fucking cracking music.

We're revealing too much with the bit about "out of touch oldsters." Hoops -- we can like the guitar solos on the inside of the Airplay album while still making fun of David Foster's mustache. Walter and Don taught us all how to in the late-90s liner notes, y'know.

And if people don't like using "Yacht Rock" as a diss, well, welcome to the resistance.

It wasn't created to slag off Aunt Nancy while she shook to a Hall and Oates song. Hall and Oates aren't Yacht Rock, the term was created to celebrate "gooooood" muzak.*

If you start using "Yacht Rock" in informed way, if you make it about music and lose the insecurity, there is funn(n) to be had.

Think there are too many fart jokes in the Yacht Rock web series? Here it is, episodes 1-through-11:

(the Beyond Yacht Rock podcast is nearly 70 episodes into determining what is and isn't Yacht Rock, dutifully and hilariously, while this board spent its summer wondering about Billy Joel:

Also, there is nothing wrong with leveling Baby Boomers, who are mostly overplayed and tired (and have stopped listening).

Walter knew about the heads bopping up and down to "Peg," during the Yacht Rock showing in Chicago in 2006 at the Empty Bottle, smiles moving much faster than they did at the SD show in MKE or the shows three years earlier. He knew.

*Glenn Frey, episode 10, upon hearing 'FM' for the first time:

Date: Thurs, August 09, 2018, 22:46:05 ET
Posted by: Walter Becker Media,

We interrupt your regularly scheduled programming to bring you some new music.

Check it out.

Date: Thurs, August 09, 2018, 19:37:30 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Indy

I can't believe we're approaching the year anniversary of Walter's departure. I thought of him when I was reminded today marks the 23nd anniversary Jerry passed.

Date: Thurs, August 09, 2018, 18:28:23 ET
Posted by: Max, VT

An explanation of this difference between sophomorism and wit.

Date: Thurs, August 09, 2018, 17:19:36 ET
Posted by: Yacht Rok, The bay

Hahahaha! This is funny. Talking sophomoric humor? Then what the fuck would you call Walter's monologues from Hey 19? The ones where he basically said to get a woman drunk so she would bang you? The jokes about eating boogers?

Jesus christ. Yacht Rock was never meant to be taken seriously.

Date: Thurs, August 09, 2018, 14:10:38 ET
Posted by: Hank, CA

I totally agree with hoops about Yacht Rock. It's an insult to Steely Dan and makes them look bad.

Date: Thurs, August 09, 2018, 10:56:53 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

I have little doubt that 1) the creators of Yacht Rock are big fans of the musicians they cover in their satire--otherwise they could not consider them in such detail. Moreover, 2) I would wager that Walter and Donald viewed the episodes with amusement similar to that for "Spinal Tap" on which they collaborated with at various times.

That said, of the episodes I have viewed, the sense of humor on Yacht Rock (like the recent "Smalls Change") isn't nearly as in par as the humor of Steely Dan. Too sophomoric for my tastes.

My disliking of Yacht Rock isn't that it in and of itself is ageist or that the creators intended a negative portrayal of Steely Dan and some of the other artists and their fans; rather, "Yacht Rock" has become a larger cultural catch phrase in the mainstream that is dismissive of baby boomers who listen to old music that is overplayed and tired, just like their listeners.

From what I have seen of the episodes, Yacht Rock does litle if anything to skewer the critics of those who don't appreciate the true musicians of Steely Dan. Those critics deserve it even more.

I know many of us here would see it as spiritually akin to Garry Shandling and The Larry Sanders show. But most people don't see it as an inside satire, but as mocking what is old, bad muzak liked by out of touch oldsters. That, combined with what I think is relatively sophomoric humor on the show, makes me thankful that I don't have to be a Yacht Rock fan to be a Steely Dan fan.



Date: Wed, August 08, 2018, 11:24:51 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

This is pretty funny. If it has been posted here before, I overlooked it, sorry for any duplication. The writer is young and female and, as far as I can tell, gets it. Don't dismiss it out of hand just because of the yachtrock address.

Date: Wed, August 08, 2018, 03:07:41 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago

Hey gang!

Just ignore the comments & bad links from Judix. I will remove later today. Thank you for your patience.

Best regards,


Date: Tues, August 07, 2018, 02:43:49 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

...and Jay on guitar.

"Before there was Pro Tools, there were pros."

Date: Tues, August 07, 2018, 02:41:17 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Here's a great Yacht Rock tune, produced by Jay Gradient.

Very nice chord progressions.

Date: Mon, August 06, 2018, 17:53:41 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

quite a history lesson, KD, and a reminder that sometimes things are not what they appear. You left out one detail, though, that is of particular interest: WHERE IS MY AND THE DEAN'S YACHT?

Date: Mon, August 06, 2018, 10:29:10 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga

I'll join KD over on the "fans of Yacht" side of the web.

The guys behind the Yacht Rock web series and later Beyond Yacht Rock podcast are true fans of sophisticated adult pop music. While some Steely Dan songs are included in the "Yacht" designation, they have always been careful to specify that Steely Dan is "proto-Yacht." That is, much of what would make up Yacht Rock proper has roots in Steely Dan music, namely the use of chords beyond I-IV-V, songs polished to a studio sheen, and the use of the world's best session musicians. So McDonald era Doobies, Michael Omartian produced Christopher Cross, and Porcaro founded Toto are among the icons of the genre, all having roots in SD.

Walter thought that what the guys did with their web series was hilarious, even convincing DF and McDonald to wear captain's hats on stage at a show the YR guys attended.

Anyway, those guys certainly never intended inclusion under the designation of Yacht Rock as derisive of SD. They actually would argue that while Time Out Of Mind and Peg are amongst the best and most illuminating songs of the genre, Escape (The Pina Colada Song) doesn't deserve to be "on the boat." It is later bandwagoners like Yacht Rock Review (who is unaffiliated) and a few sports writers who lack our friend KD's good judgement who have turned the identifier into something of much less class than the creators intended.

Date: Mon, August 06, 2018, 09:58:37 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Here is the official Yacht Rock playlist on Spotify, no white noise to be found:

The people that came up with the term, the web series, the podcast and this Spotify playlist are major, major fans of what's real.

Have a sense of humor, don't get offended on someone else's behalf, and ignore the Sirius junk. Pour a cold drink and enjoy your summer.

Date: Mon, August 06, 2018, 09:50:14 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

the term "Yacht Rock" was invented by a few guys, in 2005.

This isn't a label that has had to endure 40 or 60 years of arguments on what's in and isn't in. Unfortunately, because the guys behind the term didn't move to copyright it, the message and (especially) the music can get tripped up.

It shouldn't be offensive. It's a tribute. Most 'Yacht Rock' trends away from the trillion buck recording budgets, it has nothing to do with Yachts or largesse or Fleetwood Mac.

There are more Pointer Sisters, George Benson, Tavares, Michael Jackson and Patti Austin songs in the official Yacht Rock canon than there is the crap played by Sirius XM and all the other terrible "Yacht Rock" stations.

(and pay no attention to those dweebs in polyester touring under the banner)

I would invite anyone that has had a rough time with the designation to check out the OFFICIAL Yachtski Scale, songs that are truly Yacht Rock, as judged by the people that actually came up with the term:

(it is nicknamed the "Jay Gradient," so you know we know what we're talking about)

Don't be turned off. I get why people might be.

Beyond all the idiots in captain's hats out there exists a growing subculture that can't wait to get into record stores and flip over a bin in time to find Paulinho da Costa or Dean Parks in the credits.

Date: Sun, August 05, 2018, 14:41:41 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,

By critically, I mean music critics. See Sting's St. Augustine in Hell.

Not the musicians, producers, arrangers who voted for SD for their 2001 Grammys.

Date: Sun, August 05, 2018, 14:38:38 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Snake - don't think there's any danger here.

That reminds me of how critically undervalued the quality of output 21st Century Dan, solo efforts are. I guess when Donald feels bad, he can just look at their Grammys.

Two Against Nature
Everything Must Go
Morph the Cat
Circus Money
Sunken Condos

more than stand the test of time. They sophistication, wit, and musical figures grow with each passing year. If anything, the chord progressions are even more complex than 70s Dan.

The voicings, with the exception of Sunken Condos, is a little more sour and bitter while smooth than sweet...but so is any aging fine wine. Ironically, Sunken Condos has the most youthful feel since The Nightly. Post-Apocalypso.

Date: Sun, August 05, 2018, 10:26:39 ET
Posted by: Snake Plissken, NY

PLEASE don't put Billy Joel in 70s iconic talent.

Date: Sun, August 05, 2018, 01:09:10 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Just in case you've missed this tidbit.. Instrumental only outtake of Green Earrings. My God, that Rainey!

Date: Sun, August 05, 2018, 00:31:31 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

I should note that both Andy Summers and Allan Holdsworth played in different iterations of Soft Machine. Summers sneaky understated guitar playing on the Police is chock full of jazz chords and unusual voicings. The Police had some filler, but about 20 killer songs, and remarkable musicianship. Copeland was a beast.

Every Breath You Take is one of my least favorite Sting/Police songs, except maybe the bridge. Wrapped Around Your Finger, Synchronicity II, Tea in the Sahara, Murder by Numbers are interesting. King off Pain is repetitive, except again the bridge.

Ghost in the Machine and Zenyatta Mondetta are probably their best albums.

Sprits in the Material Word, Every Little Thing She Does is Magic, Invisible Sun pack a real punch to commence Ghost in the Machine. Demolitions Man is a scorching track - maybe their best track as a live sounding band. Copeland destroys the 7/8 time signature on Spirits - it's a clinic.

If it's possible to be subversive and overbearing at the same time, the Police were that. They were really a punk - fusion band, taking advantage of reggae/ska beats. If you can find decent tabs, check out some of the chords and voicing. Add9s, sus2s with different voicing, sis 4, E7s, 5ths all kinds of shit.

They remind me of some of the progressions on Slang of Ages, Pixeleen. SD outdid themselves on Green Book - chord slut city.

"These tabs look iffy. You say they're good."

Date: Sat, August 04, 2018, 23:58:39 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Allman Bros

70s Fusion: Metheny, Weather Report, Al DiMeola, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Allan Holdsworth with Tony Williams, Bruford, UK, Soft Machine

More R&B: Donny Hathaway, Aretha, Arranger/producer Thom Bell, Funkadelic/Parliament, Sly & the Family Stone

Date: Sat, August 04, 2018, 21:13:29 ET
Posted by: Sgt Hulka , Wichita

I'm new to this Board, so i'm not sure how many times this has been asked. But, why doesn't SD play Deacon Blues very often? In five shows over the years, I've only heard it once. Unless of course, I was in Tuscaloosa.

Date: Sat, August 04, 2018, 18:42:49 ET
Posted by: Wayne, Manhattan

Can you please add Pat Metheny to 70s iconic talent? And when is Pat going to release another album? Maybe Pat has become a touring act just like Steely Dan.

Date: Sat, August 04, 2018, 13:25:49 ET
Posted by: Herman B., Passaic NJ

I don't know if I would mark The Police as 70's iconic talent. Their final album Synchronicity contains a few good songs but that's it.

Date: Sat, August 04, 2018, 12:37:04 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

70s iconic talent - technically The Police began in the 70s, Steely Dan, the meat of Joni Mitchell's discography (although Clouds was released in 1969), same for Bowie, Stevie Wonder's great albums.

If you like rock - Queen, Ramones, Buckingham/Nick version of Fleetwood Mac (I find them not as interesting or as iconic as other bands), AC/DC. yeah Zeppelin, Elton John, early Genesis I guess

R&B - Curtis Mayfield, Jackson 5/Michael Jackson, Earth, Wind, & Fire

The weird thing about "yacht rock" and Michael McDonald - it's far more R&B/fake jazz than rock, which is why the biker Doobie fans don't go for that era.

Date: Sat, August 04, 2018, 12:31:29 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Indy

SD's tale of Peg featured on Open Culture:

Date: Sat, August 04, 2018, 12:24:01 ET
Posted by: Danny, Ohio

Only thing Billy Joel & Steely Dan have in common is humor. Billy Joel always the audience at his concerts that he's Billy Joel's dad because he doesn't look the same as he used to. Age has not been kind to Billy Joel.

Date: Fri, August 03, 2018, 16:59:01 ET
Posted by: Critic, grabs us

Billy Joel, both musically and lyrically, is too stiff and stuffy to approach being like SD.

Date: Fri, August 03, 2018, 14:19:06 ET
Posted by: Shep, CA

My personal favorite song from Billy Joel is Captain Jack. It's a song about a loser just like Deacon Blues. I like the 52nd Street album too but the rest of his output is mediocre compared to Donald Fagen.

Date: Fri, August 03, 2018, 12:47:45 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

52nd Street has always been the only Billy Joel album that I like, but I like it a lot. Other than that, there are a few stay songs that I enjoy. Sounds like that may be a more common view than I realized.

There was a program on the Beatles Channel on XM where he commented on Beatles songs and then played a few bars on the piano and sang - usually off-key and very unfiltered. I thought it was pretty good.

Date: Fri, August 03, 2018, 01:38:12 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Zanzibar, Rosalinda's Eyes, Stiletto are arguably Joel's best stuff, at his peak IMO. Gradually, Billy Joe's albums got worse and worse after this, although the Nylon Curtain features some interesting, eclectic efforts.

Date: Thurs, August 02, 2018, 20:40:34 ET
Posted by: Jon, DE

1978 review of Billy Joe's 52nd Street.

"Zanzibar" is a blatant imitation of Steely Dan, probably the most sophisticated rock 'n roll group currently on the radio. Joel imitates all the patented Dan trademarks: the twisted ironic vocals, the shimmering jazz vibes, the repetitive syncopated piano, the constant musical changes, the elusive lyrics and the cameo jazz solo (performed for Joel by trumpeter Freddie Hubbard).

Imitation though it is, "Zanzibar" is probably Joel's most original work. Never before has he attempted such leaps in lyrical and musical themes. There's still no indication, however, that Joel means anything more than just what he's saying, and consequently he still falls far short of Steely Dan.

Date: Wed, August 01, 2018, 21:00:08 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, nj

typo ... july 16 not july 19

Date: Wed, August 01, 2018, 20:49:56 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, NJ

Steely Dan Bodhisattva July 19, 2018
PNC Bank Arts Center
Holmdel, NJ
With guest Connor Kennedy on guitar

Date: Wed, August 01, 2018, 19:32:13 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Dreaming of Luxury

"It would be nice to have a yacht, though."

Nicholas Urfe - Funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing. And thanks for knocking the Fake Internet Loan Shark off the top of the page. Somebody hadda do it. I would have done it myself, but I'm perilously short of material & inspiration these days, as this post of mine will no doubt reveal.

Date: Wed, August 01, 2018, 17:35:02 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Just to be clear, I wasn't defending XM's classification. I was trying to knock the loan application off of the top post spot, and yacht rock radio was the best I could muster.

Date: Wed, August 01, 2018, 11:16:01 ET
Posted by: Steely Dan 4 Life, out of the shower

Yacht Rock Radio stinks.

Date: Wed, August 01, 2018, 11:15:14 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago

Personally, I find the concept of "yacht rock" and some of whom they include in the same category as Steely Dan to be rather misguided and offensive. It's lost on creators and fans of yacht rock that it's more making fun of the way they listen to music (without much depth and just focus on the surface ) than what's actually the substance behind the artists' music. If you really know what Steely Dan is about, you realize that it's in equal measure of polish and punk. It's really pre-alternative musicaIf you really know what Steely Dan is about, you realize that it's in equal measure of polish and punk. It's really pre-alternative rock.

Date: Wed, August 01, 2018, 10:09:24 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Nicholas said, "It would be nice to have a yacht, though."

Yes, Nicholas, it would ROCK!

Date: Wed, August 01, 2018, 09:40:05 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

They are playing quite a bit of SD, and not just the radio hits, on XM channel 70, yacht rock radio. In addition to SD, there is some decent music - but you also have to wade through a lot of crap, as you might expect on a channel named yacht rock radio.

It would be nice to have a yacht, though.

Date: Fri, July 27, 2018, 13:45:52 ET
Posted by: Jacob, NY

Yeah, I've seen the Steve Gadd Band a few times. They sound just like Steely Dan.

Date: Fri, July 27, 2018, 06:24:01 ET
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Date: Wed, July 25, 2018, 23:13:03 ET
Posted by: Ric, M

"Once you get into the 1970s, the talent goes way down. You don�t have any more majestic talents like Jimi Hendrix or Bob Dylan." - Donald Fagen, 2000.

I'll argue that Fagen qualifies as a majestic 70's talent.

Date: Wed, July 25, 2018, 13:25:50 ET
Posted by: Pete Tinder,

DF doesn't want to do Deacon Blues because he's afraid of blowing the lyrics.

Date: Wed, July 25, 2018, 07:20:56 ET
Posted by: Tender moving song monitor, monitoring

I guess we'll have to settle for Home at Last and Black Cow. Those are regulars in the setlist.

Date: Tues, July 24, 2018, 20:59:09 ET
Posted by: Big Jake, cleaning my apartment

Donald doesn't like to sing tender moving songs like Deacon Blues, Western World or Doctor Wu.

Date: Tues, July 24, 2018, 12:59:13 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

KD, I want to comment on your post before it gets lost in the shuffle. I thought that it was profound. Imagine a SD concert attended by Bluebook-style fans, Deacon Blues is played, and by the end of it everyone in the audience is in tears along with half of the band. The song ends to silence, DF looks out over the audience and says it's okay, everything will be okay. Then the bank breaks into Bodhi and pulls us out of it.

Date: Mon, July 23, 2018, 09:00:00 ET
Posted by: It was 20 years ago today , (well, technically tonight)

The Steely Damned at Le Bar Bat.

Date: Sat, July 21, 2018, 15:48:47 ET
Posted by: Norman, Hollywood

The video down below stinks and is an insult to the song. Please don't watch it.

Date: Sat, July 21, 2018, 12:38:18 ET
Posted by: CJB's , 2c

The original version of "Here at the Western World" is one of the most sublime things W&D ever recorded.

Not a big fan of the "upbeat" DFB remake.

This cover, by some NYC street buskers and a terrific vocalist (Michael-David Gordon), gets things mostly right:

Date: Sat, July 21, 2018, 11:28:01 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I think Donald is sick of singing Deacon Blues because he's tired of seeing adults openly weeping.

Date: Sat, July 21, 2018, 10:16:35 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, NJ

Even more than Western World... I wonder why isn't Deacon Blues played occasionally ?(Besides Aja night at the Beacon.)

Date: Fri, July 20, 2018, 12:57:30 ET
Posted by: Guzman, Boston MA

When Donald started his project with The Nightflyers I thought Western World might have a chance of getting resurrected. Sadly I don't think that's going to happen now. But you never know.

Date: Fri, July 20, 2018, 12:23:32 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

06 Western World is its own thing. Doesn't touch the original but I dig it. Some nice solos from both Herington and Krantz, the stars of that tour.

Date: Fri, July 20, 2018, 12:19:07 ET
Posted by: Rod, Dublin

Date: Fri, July 20, 2018, 10:54:23 ET
Posted by: Guzman, Boston MA

If Two Against Nature had come out a year after Gaucho then the album might haved bombed. It's Steely Dan's most complex album. There aren't a lot of radio-friendly catchy tunes on that album. People might have scratched their heads and said "Well, what the fuck is this?". I personally love the album but it did take a few listens to fully appreciate it.

Why knock the fast version of Western World? It shows how Donald can change a deeply moving ballad into a high upbeat funk song.

Date: Fri, July 20, 2018, 07:37:20 ET
Posted by: Hal, R

If Two Against Nature had come out a year after Gaucho, how would fans have reacted to the lyrical straightforwardness of songs like What a Shame About Me and Cousin Dupree? It seemed to go unmentioned in 2000. Did Fagen's solo career pave the way for this?

Date: Fri, July 20, 2018, 07:36:40 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Unwavering in my distaste for that one version of Here At The Western World

You're welcome, Beast - I'm only too happy to help out. And don't feel bad - sometimes it seems that EVEYBODY'S comments, when compared to mine, seem nice, even polite. What can ya do??

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2018, 21:46:47 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Name, NJ

Guzman, we must agree to disagree. Sorry, bud.

M/O/D/P, I appreciate your support. My comments, when compared to yours, seem nice, even polite :)

Best to all fans.


Date: Thurs, July 19, 2018, 21:33:11 ET
Posted by: Danny, Pennsylvania

Ha Ha Ha I too voted for Here At The Western World M/O/D/P, but alas the Russians seem to vote early and often for Peg. ps: There is some Steely Dan played throughout the excellent new Robin Williams documentary on HBO.

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2018, 20:53:50 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Blacked Out On The Stairs

The original ("released") version of Here At The Western World is one of my all-time SD faves. So much so, in fact, that I futilely voted for it for each Beacon "Request Night" that I have attended so far. Not that my vote did any good, we understand, since the song didn't get played, probably didn't even get considered, and since every single person I quizzed at those shows claimed to have voted for one of the five or seven set-list standards/familiar radio hits - songs that were 100% guaranteed to be played anyways, since they'd been played every night of the tour(s) thus far - or they hadn't bothered to vote at all.

So...Beast w/o A Name is right.

QUOTE: "...that rather butchered version he played on his solo tour in 2006. That was awful... just awful... badly reharmonized and arranged - sounded like it belonged on the stage of an opening act on a bad cruise ship. It was the audio equivalent of the Norwalk virus. It sounded like it should come with a free year's supply of turtle wax. I could keep going. Please add to the list..."

OK - I will. But only because you insisted. Normally, I prefer to stay out of these things.

It's offensive, like a near-seven-minute uncontrolled/vehemently-loud outburst of three bean burrito-sourced flatulence at Sunday Morning Meeting. It's uncalled for, like a Costco-sized jar of rancid Big Mac sauce tossed all over da Vinci's The Last Supper. Like Stravinsky's Firebird Suite played by The Ramones. Dreadful & foul, like a soiled, heavily-used hockey bag filled with damp athletic equipment and parmesan cheese. Completely unnecessary & pointless, like a Three-Toed Sloth jacked up on Crystal Meth. Horrible, like a Springsteen song ("ANY Springsteen song") right smack-dab in the middle of Thirty Minutes Commercial Free. So bad it's the only thing in the entire SD/DF/WB canon that I steadfastly refuse to listen to, ever again, at any time and for any reason. Because it's putrid & awful.

Of course, others may disagree...

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2018, 20:19:31 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Thanks Kent for sharing that. Never say Never. Until this year, "Any Major Dude...." hadn't seen the light of day since 1996. So I won't completely give up on "Here at the Western World".

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2018, 19:37:38 ET
Posted by: Kent , working

Sorry, Steve. You aren't going to hear it. But here's Citizen Dan (a Steely Dan tribute band) covering Here at The Western World live at a club:

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2018, 18:24:06 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

I would rank hearing a live version of "Here at the Western World", the classic version, right up there with hearing "The Second Arrangement".
Its something we all need to witness before we die.

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2018, 15:50:38 ET
Posted by: Guzman, Boston MA

Beast w/o A Name is wrong. The revamped fast version of Here at The Western World played on Donald's solo tour in 2006 is vastly superior to the original Steely Dan version. The funky horn section is hard to resist. The song really kicks ass! This is probably the way Donald intended it to be played. Still, I will admit the ballad version is good too.

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2018, 13:05:16 ET
Posted by: Julo, NY

This is the tragic pattern of Steely Dan tours. They always play good deep cuts at the beginning of the tour like Western World and then they get dropped from the setlist.

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2018, 11:54:09 ET
Posted by: Ned, C

"would someone PLEASE video and post Gaucho and My Rival from the upcoming Gaucho night on You Tube"

Any wonder so many Beacon seats go unsold?

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2018, 10:37:52 ET
Posted by: Meadows, San Francisco

I guess I was wrong. I checked and SD played Western World three times in 2009: June 9, 12 and 13. I never heard these pop up on YouTube. Maybe crowd response was dismal so Donald nixed it from the setlist.

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2018, 10:01:31 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, still here in nj

Saw Jon Herington and Jim Beard in NYC last year.
They played a few Steely Dan songs at that small club show... Seem to remember that they played Here At The Western World (instrumental version).

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2018, 09:55:53 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Name, Northern Jerzzee

Would love to hear that live version of Western World from 2009. I saw 2 shows that year...request night in Boston and Royal Scam at The Beacon w/ Larry Carlton. I remember feeling a little bummed out when Donald said "this sucks" when rehearsing Western World during the Rent Party rehearsal doc. It's strange that he didn't care to play the original arrangement, especially when compared to that rather butchered version he played on his solo tour in 2006. That was awful... just awful... badly reharmonized and arranged - sounded like it belonged on the stage of an opening act on a bad cruise ship. It was the audio equivalent of the Norwalk virus. It sounded like it should come with a free year's supply of turtle wax. I could keep going. Please add to the list.. It's difficult to understand how people think sometimes. That said, the 2006 versions of Misery and the Blues were awesome.

And for the love of God, would someone PLEASE video and post Gaucho and My Rival from the upcoming Gaucho night on You Tube ???

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2018, 04:14:29 ET
Posted by: Sausage & Beer, The Lido

Hi Steelydoc,

You're right there - it sounds great! The one I know about was played on 2009/06/13 Mizner Park, Boca Raton. Setlist says it was played a couple of times before that.

Never seen that short rent party doc before - Thanks for posting BenJammin. Would love to see the rest of that band rehearsal!!

Date: Thurs, July 19, 2018, 00:17:03 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, Home

Meadows, Western World, original version was played once
on tour. Would have to look up the year. It was after Jim Beard joined the band. I have a recording of it. From the Carolinas, first night of tour. Sounds beautiful but I guess it wasn�t a crowd pleaser.

Date: Wed, July 18, 2018, 19:28:45 ET
Posted by: Meadows, San Francisco

No, Big Trev. They never played Here at the Western World on tour. I guess Donald wasn't pleased with the rehearsal sessions. Shame!

Date: Wed, July 18, 2018, 16:33:51 ET
Posted by: Big Trev, Barcelona

Thanks for those links BenJammin, I'd seen them before but had forgotten about them. What about that great run through of Here at the Western Word? Fantastic. Anybody know if they actually played that on the tour? I know Donald did a version in 2006 but this sounds a lot closer to the original arrangement.

Date: Wed, July 18, 2018, 14:43:01 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

'09. One of my fave tours,4 shows in 5 nights I believe. So great to hear Walter's voice in the interviews. Looking forward to the street party in Oct!

Date: Wed, July 18, 2018, 01:37:47 ET
Posted by: BenJammin, Indy

This four-part flashback of the Rent Party Tour of '09 offers excellent interviews, behind-the-scenes moments, and some jams! The guys discuss the Album Night shows, which continues to be a popular concert strategy. The Doobies are even doin' a couple at the Beacon.

Date: Tues, July 17, 2018, 16:05:23 ET
Posted by: Meadows, San Francisco

Video on YouTube of Steely Dan playing Reelin' from last night's show in Holmdel NJ:

Good close-up shots of Connor Kennedy & Jon Herington dueling it out. The video cuts out Keith Carlock's drum solo at the end though.

Date: Tues, July 17, 2018, 13:16:14 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, NJ

Maybe one or two duplicate photos ... sorry

Date: Tues, July 17, 2018, 12:57:35 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, NJ

Date: Tues, July 17, 2018, 12:54:50 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, NJ

Date: Tues, July 17, 2018, 12:44:17 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, NJ

PNC Bank Arts Center
Holmdel, NJ
July 16, 2018

Date: Tues, July 17, 2018, 10:43:12 ET
Posted by: Meadows, San Francisco

See Bad Sneakers? They did play FM like you wanted. I would like to hear Connor Kennedy play on this song. They really should make him an official member of the band. Not one song from Two Against Nature was played on this Summer tour. Shame!

Date: Tues, July 17, 2018, 10:22:29 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, NJ

July 16, 2018 (Show rescheduled from July 6)
PNC Bank Arts Center
Holmdel, NJ

Hallelujah Time
Black Cow
Hey Nineteen
Black Friday
Time Out of Mind
Kid Charlemagne
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Dirty Work
Home at Last
Keep That Same Old Feeling
Bodhisattva (Connor Kennedy on guitar)
My Old School (Connor Kennedy on guitar)

Reelin' in the Years (Connor Kennedy on guitar)
A Man Ain't Supposed to Cry

Date: Sun, July 15, 2018, 22:41:24 ET
Posted by: Jim aka hoops, chicago

Thanks to everyone who gave their input today for that certain special event coming up in three months. More to come in the next couple days.

Date: Sun, July 15, 2018, 21:43:01 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Boz still delivering the goods.

Play an accordion, you do pass Go and collect $200! As long as it's blues.

Date: Sat, July 14, 2018, 12:55:21 ET
Posted by: Buzzy, at McDonalds

This Summer tour with the Doobie Brothers is now coming to a close. Only two nights left.

Date: Sat, July 14, 2018, 01:17:35 ET
Posted by: Chris , Nh

Excellent show in NH tonight. Fagen said it was one of the best nights of the tour. First time I�ve heard him say that in 15+ shows. Maybe he said it every other night this tour but it did feel like a particularly tight and flawless night for an enthusiastic sold out crowd.

Date: Fri, July 13, 2018, 18:34:09 ET
Posted by: Bert, Anaheim CA

Here's a video on YouTube of Connor Kennedy & Jon Herington tearing it up on Reelin' from the show in Camden. The video was shot from a distance but the sound is OK.

Connor & Jon Herington make a great team!

Date: Fri, July 13, 2018, 14:01:53 ET
Posted by: Pre, S


Connor Kennedy's style also complements Herington's.

Date: Fri, July 13, 2018, 10:14:34 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I don't even have to click on the clip: bring Connor Kennedy into the band.

Smoke 'em, and all that.

Date: Fri, July 13, 2018, 10:01:53 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Agreed wholeheartedly that Connor Kennedy would be a great addition. His somewhat bluseyer style compliments Herington's well, he's kind of the Skunk to Herington's Dias, in a way. Plus he can sing - get a male vocal in the mix for those harmonies, give him a lead so Fagen gets another break like he used to with WB. Doesn't seem likely but who knows.

Date: Thurs, July 12, 2018, 22:25:01 ET
Posted by: in the office, signaature stamper

I'm sorry Tom -- that's not Becker's signature.

Date: Thurs, July 12, 2018, 20:28:48 ET
Posted by: Jupiter, at the desk

I would never buy a gig poster purportedly signed by Don & Walt. Could be fake. Waste of money.

Date: Thurs, July 12, 2018, 18:06:43 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Tom, I would compare them to "their illegible scrawls on the fatal last pages of criminally exploitative record contracts." Failing that, you can look here for what purports to be WB's signature on the AIA liner notes. Whether it is or not is another question entirely.


Date: Thurs, July 12, 2018, 17:48:30 ET
Posted by: Tom, Connecticut

I've only posted here a couple times, but I need some help.

A couple days ago I won an eBay auction from a guy with 100% positive feedback. It was a gig poster autographed by Don & Walt. I just received it. I was hoping maybe somebody could help me identify if it's legitimate or not. I've tried looking up autographs from them online, but the problem is the vast majority of them are very different from one another. Any help is appreciated, thanks a bunch.

Here's a link to a photo of it:

Thanks again,

Date: Thurs, July 12, 2018, 16:55:08 ET
Posted by: Mark B, NY

This is why Steely Dan needs Connor Kennedy:

My Old School sounds so much better with another guitarist. SD needs new blood and this young man cooks! Donald can afford him. Connor won't demand high fees like Larry Carlton.

Date: Thurs, July 12, 2018, 13:51:43 ET
Posted by: Mark B, NY

Yes, nobody can replace Walter but Steely Dan definitely needs two guitarists. It's always been that way. When SD first began they had Walter, Skunk Baxter and Denny Dias.

Date: Thurs, July 12, 2018, 12:29:01 ET
Posted by: Jimmie, US

Given the state of the music business, the idea of Don touring as SD without Walter was not hard to imagine even when Walter was still with us. The idea was floated on here a couple of years ago. Someone, I think Dean, said it was completely out of bounds.

But he will NOT give the appearance of Walter being "replaced" by anyone other than perhaps his own son. And as far as I know, he's not even a musician.

Date: Thurs, July 12, 2018, 11:07:05 ET
Posted by: Mark B, NY

I was watching videos on YouTube from the show in Camden and the guest guitarist was Connor Kennedy. It's fun watching Jon Herington and Connor trading guitar licks on My Old School. I think Connor Kennedy will eventually be brought in as Walter Becker's permanent replacement.

Date: Thurs, July 12, 2018, 10:13:00 ET
Posted by: Mr. Belzoni, Funway West

I heard they brought in a guest guitarist last night in Camden. Any idea who that was? Does anyone have the playlist?? Thanks!

Date: Thurs, July 12, 2018, 07:56:15 ET
Posted by: Jimmie, US

I hope Connor Kennedy has a long and prosperous career and we some day look back at Donald Fagen as being a mere "Kenny Vance" footnote in it.

Date: Thurs, July 12, 2018, 07:19:05 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

After hearing some live Steely Dan bootlegs from circa 1974, I'd say the band sounded at their best in 2000 and beyond.
Those early incarnations of the band played the songs at a much faster pace. The performances since 2000 are more nuanced and sound more like the recordings of the classic albums, IMO.

Date: Wed, July 11, 2018, 15:24:07 ET
Posted by: Dave (from acquisitions), Philadelphia

I�m familiar with the performances of reeling and do it again and the miming version of my old school from their tv appearances but didn�t they also record show biz kids for a tv show around the same time? There�s a brief clip shown during the rock and roll hof induction video.

Date: Wed, July 11, 2018, 11:24:38 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

Not aware of SD live footage from the 70s other than the Midnight Special appearance. First of all their touring career was short. During that time they didn't seem to do TV other than Midnight Special. In the early 70s there were two really good places to see live bands on the tube, The Midnight Special and In Concert (Don Kirschner's show). To my knowledge they never appeared on In Concert. Pure speculation, but I would think that as closely as WB & DF guarded/guard the release of their music such as early demos etc., if there is concert footage and they have the rights to it, said footage will never see the light of day.

Date: Wed, July 11, 2018, 11:23:00 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

There's this 8mm rolling around too:

Lots of great shots of Skunk and the Les Paul.

Date: Wed, July 11, 2018, 11:21:25 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Did Connor Kennedy sit in for the whole set last night? Goddamn love that kid. I think they may have put 'Josie' back in for him.

Date: Wed, July 11, 2018, 10:06:05 ET
Posted by: Parker, Passaic NJ

Early SD concert video footage hasn't surfaced yet because a lot of people don't have it. The only one in circulation is their 1973 appearance on The Midnight Special. I could be wrong though. The veteran BlueBookers would know more.

Date: Wed, July 11, 2018, 08:29:37 ET
Posted by: Dave (from acquisitions), Philadelphia

Seems like this should have way more views. Gary Katz interviews are pretty rare. There�s also some great early video footage. I�ve always wondered why more early concert film hasn�t surfaced yet. You have to imagine it exists somewhere.

Date: Tues, July 10, 2018, 22:33:50 ET
Posted by: yt, dc

Tribute to Walter including interviews with Dean Parks and Keith Carlock.

Date: Tues, July 10, 2018, 16:11:41 ET
Posted by: Bud, laying in bed

The band sound tighter because it doesn't have Walter to shake things up. I miss Walter more than ever now.

Date: Tues, July 10, 2018, 13:44:47 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, NJ

I hope they play FM at the rescheduled gig in NJ next week.
Considering heading down to Philly (er- I mean Camden) on Wednesday.

Date: Tues, July 10, 2018, 12:47:10 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass

"MISSED" is the word I meant to use in re: to Walter - not "missing" - just wanted to correct that mistake.

Date: Tues, July 10, 2018, 11:03:09 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass

Hey guys and gals - wanted to give somewhat of a review from Saturday night at the Xfinity Center. Doobies were great! Billy Payne on keyboards! Enthusiastic response to most of their set as has been reported thus far.

Let's get to what counts! I don't want to be sacrilegious here in light of the fact that we're flying the missing man formation these days, but if my math is right, this was my 16th show, and I cannot remember when they sounded better. Yes, Becker was and always will be missing. But, my God! This band is insanely tight! I was floored with Herington, and I'm a drummer. He's obviously got more responsibility now, but it didn't seem to hold him back. AT ALL!!

Carlock - not much more to say than what's already been said. I will say that, from the drum perspective, he's taken that signature lick of his and embellished quite nicely over the years! Same lick with more variations and orchestrations around the kit. The guy is a monster and so much fun to watch with the exaggerated flailing arms and whatnot. Groove infectious! Freddy Washington - what's not to love??!!

Fagen seemed really enthusiastic as well. Looked like he was having a ball throughout. "YOW!"
Our seats were about 15 rows right behind sound board.

Whatever the sound engineer earned that night wasn't enough! The sound was so good it was hard to believe!! Like hearing the tightest band you've ever heard through a pristine audio system! That's probably what struck me more than anything else.

First time I've ever heard Rikki played live. FM, Black Cow, Green Earrings, Dirty Work, Reeling, Hey 19, Black Friday, TOOM, etc. I didn't make a setlist as it's not my thing when at a show. It all sounded incredible - and by the 2nd or 3rd tune, the sound engineer had it so dialed in I was in disbelief! So glad I decided to go!!

Now I'm thinking seriously about one of the Beacon shows.

Apologies for lack of exact setlist.

Date: Tues, July 10, 2018, 09:22:43 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago


The Street Where Becker Grew Up in Queens Will Become
"Walter Becker Way"

Press Resources

JULY 10, 2018 (New York, NY) -- Walter Becker, a co-founder of Steely Dan, a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and an artist of uncommonly unique solo output, will be posthumously honored when the street where he grew up in the Forest Hills section of Queens will be co-named "Walter Becker Way." A street sign, to be officially unveiled on October 28th, will grace the corner of 112th Street and 72nd Drive. This represents the kind of street credibility that Becker truly would have appreciated!

The October 28th unveiling will be accompanied by a ceremony that will include special guests, remembrances from Becker's friends and colleagues, as well as very special give-aways. The event will be presented by New York's Classic Rock Q104.3, and all the day's festivities will be planned and organized by Becker's loyal, enthusiastic fans.

"Walter's fans have decades of experience holding 'Danfests' throughout the country," says Becker's widow, Delia, "and they always find innovative and eclectic ways of celebrating. It will undoubtedly be a fun and free gathering to honor and commemorate Walter as only they can!"

The New York City Council bestows street co-naming honors on New York activists, cultural heroes, and community leaders whose contribution has a lasting impact on the city, the country, and the world. The motion to co-name "Walter Becker Way" was put forward by New York City Council Member Karen Koslowitz of the 29th District (Forest Hills) by way of a legislative bill, which was approved by a full council vote on June 28.

Additional announcements about the October 28th celebration of "Walter Becker Way" will be regularly posted to

Date: Mon, July 09, 2018, 19:46:27 ET
Posted by: Dino, Heading home

That's what I love about Van Morrison. He never falls into the "nostalgia act" trap because he continues to record prolifically. Van also doesn't give a shit about what the audience wants to hear.

Date: Mon, July 09, 2018, 19:03:17 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

The Van and Joey album is indeed great and the best of the three albums Van has put out in the past year.

This site actually houses a Van email list (fully automated) that was started in 1993. So if anyone is interested, please email me privately at jjmckay AT DOT com -- I'll send deets.


Could someone re-post or otherwise direct me to our group Danfest photo taken in the parking lot? There was maybe 2 dozen of us with someone pouring a drink in YGK's mouth as he reclined on the lot. THX!


Date: Mon, July 09, 2018, 15:20:42 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

The Joey D & Van Morrison concert was on AXS TV network. Great stuff.

Date: Mon, July 09, 2018, 14:15:53 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

I accidently linked the live version of that song. Nice, but the studio version has much better sound:

Date: Mon, July 09, 2018, 14:13:29 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Bookeeper, you got that right. The Van Joey D new release is killer.

Try this on for size:

Date: Mon, July 09, 2018, 12:58:00 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

A few random thoughts based on recent items on the Blue:

- The Dean is posting again. Haven't noticed posts from you for a while. Glad you are back in the saddle.

- I also am a concert Keychain collector. Thought I was the only one! For SD, I believe my earliest is the Y2K Subway token keychain. SD keychains are more expensive than other artists. But they are not all plastic either like the other act's chains I have purchased. They are less expensive than the t-shirts that end up in a drawer not being worn.

- My favorite band from the 70's forward is the Tom Johnston era Doobie Brothers. SD comes in a very close second. Each group's music originates in a slightly different area of the brain. In my humble opinion the DB do not have a bunch of filler on those Toulouse Street to Stampede albums. Rather a nice blend of hard charging rock and finger picking/acoustic guitar songs. South City Midnight Lady and Clear As the Driven Snow, both from the Captain & Me, are examples. This year's tour was a great pairing for me.

- I wish Joey Defrancesco was the opening act on every non-shed SD tour. That man is a Hammond B3 force to be reckoned with for sure. There was a concert show with Joey De and Van Morrison on TV (sorry forgot the network) a few weeks ago. Epic stuff!!

Date: Mon, July 09, 2018, 12:52:23 ET
Posted by: DP, BETHEL, CT

Joe Jackson did "Night by Night" in Vermont on Sunday night

Date: Mon, July 09, 2018, 12:52:12 ET
Posted by: DP, BETHEL, CT

Joe Jackson did "Night by Night" in Vermont on Sunday night

Date: Mon, July 09, 2018, 12:51:58 ET
Posted by: DP, BETHEL, CT

Joe Jackson did "Night by Night" in Vermont on Sunday night

Date: Mon, July 09, 2018, 10:26:10 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

My bad. Actually this is the better link.

To get directly to the recording and skip the two pictures, go here:

Date: Mon, July 09, 2018, 10:22:54 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Thanks Doc. To save the rest of you from having to click through two different sites to find the link, here it is:

Date: Mon, July 09, 2018, 07:37:02 ET
Posted by: steelydoc, Near the tower

Uncle Waltie�s Story at Walter Becker Media page

Date: Sun, July 08, 2018, 22:01:11 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Sorry for the double post.

Date: Sun, July 08, 2018, 22:00:45 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

M/O/D/P, I think your keychain collection is more about you picking the least expensive SD swag on which to focus. Good job there. But yes, 25 doughlers is a bit spendy for something that is basically free, in the real world.

Last night I had the pleasure of seeing the Rebirth Brass Band, for free, at the St Augustine Amphitheatre. Just a great time. With the exception of the very poor bar setup on an extremely hot night. I won't go into the details of the bar. But as bad as it was for the customers, it had to be twice as bad for those working the bar. Just wanted to say after waiting approximately 30 minutes on line (in the scalding heat---did I mention that?) I scored a double Knob Creek (100 proof) on the rocks and a box of water. $21 (+ tip). I still think that's a much better deal than a 13.50 doughlar Crudweiser.

Date: Sun, July 08, 2018, 22:00:37 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

M/O/D/P, I think your keychain collection is more about you picking the least expensive SD swag on which to focus. Good job there. But yes, 25 doughlers is a bit spendy for something that is basically free, in the real world.

Last night I had the pleasure of seeing the Rebirth Brass Band, for free, at the St Augustine Amphitheatre. Just a great time. With the exception of the very poor bar setup on an extremely hot night. I won't go into the details of the bar. But as bad as it was for the customers, it had to be twice as bad for those working the bar. Just wanted to say after waiting approximately 30 minutes on line (in the scalding heat---did I mention that?) I scored a double Knob Creek (100 proof) on the rocks and a box of water. $21 (+ tip). I still think that's a much better deal than a 13.50 doughlar Crudweiser.

Date: Sun, July 08, 2018, 21:05:50 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Unreleased

The foul drippings that follow are some previously-unposted bits, judiciously excised - in the interest of conciseness and clarity - from my recent mini-review of the SD July 02 2018 show at Toronto's reviled Budweiser Horrible Generic Outdoor Concert Venue. I'm posting these rare outtakes here now because my security staff tells me that the "unposted" section of one of my "drafts" files was compromised sometime in the past day or so. This stuff is gonna come out eventually, so it might as well come from the source, I guess. Initially, we believed it was the Russians who were behind the cyber-attack, but now it's looking more like it might have been Mormons or possibly Koreans. So, I'm trying to get out in front of this completely unnecessary/inexplicable data breach...

- Carolyn was on fire during the latter part of the concert, and toward the end of the performance she kicked the stuffings out of the stop-time in Pretzel Logic. "Where did you get those shoes?", indeed. Just awesome, and a real highlight.

- The woman seated next to me was 100% certain that the Doobie Brothers leader, who was introduced at least three times during the set as Tom Johnston, was definitely Burton Cummings. No doubt about it, and no amount of fact-based "information" from the stage (or from myself) was gonna convince her that the former co-leader of The Guess Who had not actually put down his piano in favor of a guitar. "I had NO IDEA he was going to be playing with The Doobies tonight!", she told me excitedly, fully convinced that she was in the presence of one of her all-time faves. No, she didn't appear to be drunk or otherwise wasted. Just delusional, and incorrect, but in a funny/semi-charming way because she believed it. Why the Doobies didn't play "Stand Tall" or "American Woman" that night, she'll never understand. Along with a number of other things she'll probably never understand. True story.

- Prior to showtime, a crowd of onlookers gasped in disbelief as some gullible cluck paid $25 (CDN) = $19 (USD) at the merch table for a Steely Dan Tour 2018 metal keychain. Reportedly, he did this to complete his "collection" of officially-sanctioned Steely Dan keychains which he has been "collecting" since the 2006 summer tour. That gullible cluck was yours truly. Sure, keychains are cool, but by now it must be fairly obvious that I have more money (and keychains) than brains.

- At several points during the proceedings, DF let out a loud exultory "WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!", until the final time he did it and then quickly followed it up with, "Yeah, that's getting a bit old". Of course it was, and it was nice for him to realize it before it was too late.

- Tall Cans of Crudweiser were selling (and selling quite well, I might add) for the fuck-you price of $13.50 each, I shit you not - for context, this is a unit you can buy in one of Toronto's sanitary/sanitized, government-owned-&-operated liquor stores for around $2.50 or so. No, I didn't give in and buy one. Even though I was thirsty, and it was blisteringly-hot, and even though I have dangerously-low impulse control, I'm not a goddamned idiot. Except for the $25 keychain.​

- Wait a minute! $8 for a shriveled, dried-out pizza slice? What is this, midtown Manhattan?? No...wait...I just came back from there and I know there are .99 cent and $2 - $3 slices (all inexplicably tasty, too) to be had all over the [very] high-rent district (in this case, the Empire State Building and immediate vicinity). As a guy passing by said, "No way we'd put up with that crap in The States!". He was right. The franchise/chain pizza sellers were wrong. In oh-so-many ways.​

- There were several stretchers and defibrillators strategically positioned throughout the venue. I smiled as I saw them, because they reminded me of the passages in Eminent Hipsters where DF made comments about Assisted Living and referred to people being brought into the venue on slabs. That shit was funny, then and now, especially if you didn't think it was.

Date: Sun, July 08, 2018, 00:29:32 ET
Posted by: ,

Guitar players have, you know, 20, 25, 30, 75 instruments ... are these transitional objects, that is to say, fetishes, which goes back to something to do with inadequate mothering, or something like that?

Can you repeat that?

Date: Sat, July 07, 2018, 19:13:27 ET
Posted by: Abu, Victor & Jeff

Just a couple more thoughts: The title track to Living On the Fault Line is a standout, so I agree with Scott Summers post from earlier today. Two SD alumni are prominent on the tune: Victor Feldman on vibes, and Jeff Baxter on guitar. Both have excellent solos. Another great song, IMHO, is South City Midnight Lady, from the Dean's fave album, and probably mine, too. Patrick Simmons wrote and sings lead. Excellent, one of my all-time favorite songs by any artist.

Date: Sat, July 07, 2018, 18:59:58 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Dean - love Cheat the Hangman. Simmons and Skunk stretch out.

I like most of Takin' it to the Streets, Living on the Fault Line, and Minute by Minute as well.

I had heard MM on Katy Lied, but did a Double Take the first time I hear Takin' It to the Streets and It Keeps You Runnin'. Not really Motown, not really Steely Dan or funk, but a nouveau soul with a baritone belting up in the tenor range. MM and the McDoobies take the brunt of yacht rock (not to mention SD) and other jokes (the classic SCTV skit), but when they got in the groove, they hit another level. Besides the songs already mentioned:

Losin' End
Nothin but a Heartache
There's a Light
You Belong to Me - there's a stalker creepiness to the Doobie version completely missing in the Carly Simon hit single, and that's a good thing
Minute By Minute
Depending on You - SD lite thing going
Open Your Eyes
How Do those Fools Survive

are very, very good altered blues songwriting.

One Step Close is a real dog though besides Real Love, as Skunk had split the scene. It was a clear signal to hang it up.

I think the tug of war between Skunk and MM actually made the recordings better and added idiosyncrasies above just a smooth soul paradigm

Date: Sat, July 07, 2018, 18:43:22 ET
Posted by: Abu, On My Fault Line

Slight correction on my post from yesterday. No big deal, but Tom Johnston was still with the Doobies through the making of their 1977 album Living on the Fault Line, but only did some backup vocals and some guitar, but no lead on either, nor any songwriting. He decided to leave, as he felt like an outsider of sorts now that the band had taken a new direction with Mike M as the unofficial leader of the group.

Date: Sat, July 07, 2018, 18:04:34 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

Nice Doobie summary, Abu. Thanks.

IMO the best run of Doobie's albums was Toulouse Street through Stampede. (IMO, the Captain and Me is probably their "best" album in that every song on the album is very good.) Yes, there may be a clunker or two, on most of their albums, but not much. While I like McDonald, I'm not crazy about the change the Doobies took upon his arrival. Takin it to the Streets through Minute by Minute have a few decent songs, but IMO have more filler than their earlier recordings. After that, I pretty much stopped paying attention.

As Scott said, I Cheat the Hangman deserves some love.

A good friend of mine is around 73 years old. Lifelong bartender/club owner. NYC area most of his life, but now behind the bar in St Aug. When I play Doobies on the jukebox in his bar, he makes the same remark most of the time. "This is the Doobie Brothers? They sound so different from song to song." And that's just based on their pre-McMike stuff. Throw that into the mix, and the Doobies are a fairly eclectic band. Fairly high quality musicians, very good songwriters and vocals. Like SD, I even like their commercial "hits", but find their best stuff is relatively unknown. I think of them as the perfect "Guilty Pleasure" (and not all that guilty) for Dan fans.

Date: Sat, July 07, 2018, 13:41:31 ET
Posted by: Scott Summers, More Doobies Talk

Songwriting has always been a problem with the Doobie Brothers. Most of their albums contain filler material. The only Doobie Brothers albums I can listen all the way through without skipping over tracks are the ones that feature Michael McDonald. Living On The Fault Line is a great song and would qualify as "Steely Dan Lite" because of its jazzy overtones. I Cheat The Hangman is another standout track that deserves a listen. Avoid all Doobie Brothers recordings after the group disbanded in 1982.

Date: Sat, July 07, 2018, 07:37:30 ET
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Date: Fri, July 06, 2018, 20:58:24 ET
Posted by: Abu, Doobie History

David Shogren was the Doobie's original bass player, on the first album (1971) only. He is listed as a vocalist also. Years ago I had this album but do not recall if he sang lead on any song. He was replaced by Tiran Porter on bass for the second album and beyond. Shogren passed away in 1999. Porter sang lead on at least one tune from their Takin' It to the Streets album (1976). That song was "For Someone Special", which was about Tom Johnston, who at that time had some health issues and ended up leaving the band. He came back in 1987. Of course, the late Cornelius Bumpus shared lead vocals on the 1980 title track "One Step Closer".

Date: Fri, July 06, 2018, 13:14:09 ET
Posted by: Steve,

SD's tour mate, Elvis Costello, cancelling rest of his tour to overcome aggressive form of male cancer.

Date: Fri, July 06, 2018, 11:52:02 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, NJ

Thanks for your mini-review of the Toronto show.

I had been looking forward to tonight's (Friday) NJ show... But unfortunately, that's now been postponed until July 16th.

It is also unfortunate that your post smugly pushed my previous post farther down, where people might not see it.

To repeat, fellow NJ SD fans:

Steely Dan & Doobie Brothers
Friday July 6 @ PNC Bank Art Center in Holmdel, NJ
>>>> POSTPONED until Monday July 16 !

Date: Fri, July 06, 2018, 07:32:04 ET
Posted by: Gerry, DE

This weekend would have been (I believe) the only time the tour had dates scheduled on three consecutive nights. Maybe Fagen didn't think his voice could handle it and decided to nix one?

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2018, 22:58:00 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Toronto, Monday July 02 2018, 7:30 pm - 10:50 pm

The Doobie Brothers - This is one of those well-known bands I never particularly liked or disliked either way. So when they played more-or-less the same song five or seven times for the first half of their set, I just sat quietly and let others around me enjoy the music. I could see clearly, though, that some of the people around us were familiar with the material (were these songs "deep cuts" [sic] or just songs I hadn't met on the radio back in the '70s? - who knows?). Around the half way mark, the band started playing songs I recognized, and I have to admit that the overall effect - factoring in the crowd's infectious enthusiasm - was pretty damn cool. Sure, the songs were radio-friendly, and yes, the band had three guitar players (and a fourth, if you count the bass player) who all played left and who often all lined up and played together in true Classic Rock Style, but still...there really was something fun about it. By the time they got to "Long Train Runnin' " (until now, I always thought the song was titled "Without Love", but what do I know?), even I was into it. Everyone in the band seemed to be genuinely into it as well, and there's something to be said for that. No, I don't need to see The Doobie Brothers again, but yes, I'm glad I didn't skip their set on Monday night.

As mentioned previously, there weren't any major surprises in the Steely Dan set, although the people around us did seem visibly confused by both Green Flower Street and New Frontier. Blank stares all around in our section, and definitely no one mouthing lyrics along with DF on those two. For my tastes, Don't Take Me Alive or Deacon Blues or Any Major Dude or quite literally anything from Two Against Nature or Everything Must Go would have been welcome, but it wasn't to be and I sure as hell don't wanna be one of those armchair I-wasn't-there setlist whiners we all know and revile. Suffice it to say that Carlock sounded like the best two, or maybe the best three drummers in the world on several songs - hair on the back of the neck stuff, really - and the band was hot and tighter than a nun's socks. If you're on the fence about this tour, get off and go. I agree with EC/NY - it is a leaner version of Steely Dan, but it's still legit - of course, Walter is dearly missed - and anyone who loves the music of Becker & Fagen should see the band in this 2018 incarnation.

The big surprise of the night for me was the audience, at least as observed & consumed from our vantage point. Not one obnoxious drunk, and not one hyper-chatty AC/DC fan (so far as I could tell, that is). We were in the second covered section, still quite close to the stage, and, yes, there were roughly thirty-five or forty empty seats around us on all sides (these seats were originally priced at $129.50 + four or six "service/convenience" charges added, not sure what they were going for after the Live Nation discounts & promotions) during both the Doobies set and SD, so obviously the asshole factor was reduced, but still, I had the sense that most of the people there were there for the music, not the Facebook or the Twitter or the Angry Birds or the loud water-cooler talk. Given the number of live events I've been to in the past few years that have been irreparably soiled by self-centered Boomers and their everything-revolves-around-me concept of The-Concert-Venue-As-My-Very-Own-Living-Room, it could have been infinitely worse. You know, like it usually is...

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2018, 22:38:12 ET
Posted by: Marv, E

Another reason I'm glad concerts are strictly a game day decision for me these days.

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2018, 22:37:37 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, NJ

Steely Dan & Doobie Brothers
Friday July 6 @ PNC Bank Art Center in Holmdel, NJ
>>>> POSTPONED until Monday July 16 !

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2018, 22:34:49 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, NJ

Just heard confirmation from a robo-voice at 1-800-745-3000

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2018, 22:29:09 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, NJ

From a pop-up "More Info" window on PNC website:




confirmation needed!!
more info to follow ...

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2018, 19:25:30 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

First, regarding the Doobie vocalists. Most of their earlier original songs were sung by Patrick Simmons and/or Tom Johnston. Both are with the band and singing their songs (from what I understand). Of course, many of the later McDonald songs were sung by McMike. Tiran Porter may have contributed a vocal or two (can't remember). The touring band has Bill Payne, I think, and that's enough for me to want to see them even if I didn't like them.

I have heard a bit of Leonhart's Painted Lady Suite and am digging it. But it is a bit esoteric and dense. But repeated listening really does help. Haven't heard all of it, or for what I've heard, enough times to form a firm opinion. But it doesn't suck--I'll tell you that.

Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but we should be spreading a little love for the collaboration between a regular opener for SD, Joey DeFrancesco and Van Morrison.

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2018, 18:17:58 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Orange Tom:

I also have been listening to Michael Leonhart's new one. Purchased it through Amazon. It's excellent, but very dense...a lot to take in. There's one part that just a teeny bit reminds me of "Memorabilia" on "Sunken Condos."

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2018, 15:32:57 ET
Posted by: Dave (from acquisitions), Philadelphia

Not sure if this has been posted yet but I�m obsessed with this guys YouTube series. He picks some really great songs to breakdown. I first heard about him when he did a breakdown of Kid Charlemagne. This one is a livestream he did talking about Don�t Take me Alive.

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2018, 11:28:47 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Not sure who sung what for the Doobies when I saw them, but I know it's the closest to the original lineup possible (I believe a founding member died at some point?).

But I will say I went in not expecting much, not being familiar with their catalog outside of a handful of tunes from the Michael McDonald years, and ended up really enjoying the set. Solos, vocals etc all sounded great. I don't like crowd, venues, shortened sets and ticket prices that accompany these "package tours," but I have to admit the music was good.

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2018, 10:06:16 ET
Posted by: stephen,

just go and see the show, i brought my son, naturally reared on the dan, and he asked 'doobie who'. but after he said he recognised a lot of their songs.

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2018, 09:23:33 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Orange Tom, I've given it a couple of listens. It grew on me the second time, the overall theme became more apparent. It struck me as avant-garde, although that may just expose the limitations of my normal musical choices.

Date: Thurs, July 05, 2018, 06:43:18 ET
Posted by: Jeff, NY

Are any of the Doobie Bros. songs being sung by the original lead singer of the song? This actually might make or break my decision to hit one up as the tour passes through the area in the coming days.

Date: Wed, July 04, 2018, 19:43:42 ET
Posted by: Danfan , Toronto

A little more on Monday nights show from Toronto.
HOT HOT HOT and not just the band.
Stand outs were Keith Carlock... just a Monster on the kit.
Jon Herrington... what more can we say.
And Carolyn... what a voice.

And the Doobies... Well they were the Doobie Brothers.
An Excellent show Monday in Toronto and yes it was a sell out.

Get out and see a show on this tour... you won't be sorry.

Date: Wed, July 04, 2018, 17:52:14 ET
Posted by: OrangeTom, NoLongerInBackWoods

Has anyone else in the Blue listened to "The Painted Lady Suite" from Michaeal Leonhart? I'd recommend it.

I'm usually slow to warm to new music, but I'm only a third of the way through my second hearing, and am already captivated. Kinda like Miles meets Ellington.

At the risk of sounding like a fanboy who does not know how to coherently discuss music, I will shut up now.

Date: Wed, July 04, 2018, 09:36:54 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St Augustine Beach. Happy 4th!

Don, glad you had a blast. Thanks for the setlist. Hopefully you can share some more highlights.

Did you catch up with (the smug and superior) M/O/P/D?

I'm hoping against hope I catch them at the Beacon this year. Ain't lookin too good at the moment, but I'm staying optimistic.

Date: Wed, July 04, 2018, 01:03:32 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Oh yeah, have a happy 4th of July to all the Bbookers south of the border!

Date: Tues, July 03, 2018, 23:28:57 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Setlist for Toronto:

Hallelujah Time
Green Flower
Black Fri
New Frontier
Kid C
Dirty Wrk
Band Intro.Keep that....
Outro A man ain't....

Yes it was hot, yes I'd had a little to drink, and yes I was high. But the set list should be right. Had a great time, met some cool folks, missed a few cool folks.But when I'm at a show with my best girl, it's always a good time! We're already stoked for the fall. So let's be nice to each other. Peace.

Date: Tues, July 03, 2018, 15:55:12 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

I can't remember the last thing I've read backward on the internet that left me in a better place than when I started, I guess whatever I miss is this is another example of that.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the choices for the fall, in the theatres, I'm guessing we're going to get a lot more solo stuff (that I enjoy hearing quite a bit).

Date: Tues, July 03, 2018, 15:04:23 ET
Posted by: via WBMedia, Twittersphere

Walter Becker - Ghost of Hipness Past (Improved Fidelity):

Date: Tues, July 03, 2018, 14:44:46 ET
Posted by: EC, NY

Looks like the offensive & disrespectful anon post is gone.

IMHO there is no place in a civilized public discussion for character assassination directed at a deceased person, celebrity or otherwise.

Thanks, Hoops.

Date: Tues, July 03, 2018, 14:44:06 ET
Posted by: hoops, aka Jim

Just a reminder: When someone posts exceptionally obscene trolling posts, you have a choice of responding or contacting me via email where I will consider removal of the post. However, if you respond it makes it much harder to drop the subject. My preference is, "Don't feed the trolls--email me."

jjmckay at me dot com

Date: Tues, July 03, 2018, 14:38:43 ET
Posted by: EC, NY

Crossed the border into Canada Sunday night and stayed with friends outside of Toronto. Got a single ticket for way under face value, there were lots of good seats available for less than cost before show time (the show was not even close to sold out as of Monday morning, with lots of seats still available in 20 of 23 sections). There was a decent crowd by the time the Doobies came on, so the ticket promotions & discounts (along with the great summer day) must have worked. Maybe about 75% capacity?

No real surprises, although we did get Rikki (which I've never seen live) and Pretzel Logic (one of my personal all time favorites) as the encore. No Michael Leonhart, who was replaced by a trumpeter whose name I didn't catch. And only 2 Danettes, like the other 2018 shows so far. A bit of a leaner version of Steely Dan, still worth seeing, and as DF said near the end, "You have to keep going on". I'm glad I made the effort to get there.

FWIW, I consider M/O/D/P to be consistently one of the best contributors here, easily the funniest, and always an interesting read. I can't say the same about some of the anon/unknown posters who come here to pick fights and spread garbage and who contribute nothing of value. Today's vicious personal attack on Walter, who of course is no longer in a position to defend himself or his family, is really something else. Utterly classless and vile

Date: Tues, July 03, 2018, 13:41:50 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Bluebook Stain & Sewage Spill Cleanup Department

I suppose I half expected a response or two - maybe even a cretinous response or two - when I referenced the obnoxious/noisy guy who was howling his lungs out behind us at the October 2017 SD show, but I never thought I'd live long enough to read a vehement defense of Classic Rock outfit "AC/DC" and its cloddish fan-base, along with a hearty endorsement of food-stained clothing in general, topped off with a particularly vile and unseemly personal attack on the late Walter Becker. And all in one rambling, spittle-soaked post right here on The Bluebook. Maybe this whole "internet" thing wasn't such a good idea after all...

Date: Tues, July 03, 2018, 12:23:42 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

"When he [played] it was a fucking embarrassment," says some random guy with dial-up & a chip on his shoulder.

I dunno, I was at 10+ of those post-2012 shows, instead of sitting at home spreading shit with my keyboard, & I had a different experience.

Maybe stay home in October, internet guy?

Date: Mon, July 02, 2018, 00:14:34 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, On the road

@CJB.Looking forward to the street party! See you there!

Date: Mon, July 02, 2018, 00:12:40 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, On the road

As a fellow Canadian, I find the "smug and superior accusation comes up also. So maybe it's a national cultural thing. Don't hate on us because of where we come from. And as always,

Date: Sun, July 01, 2018, 22:28:58 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

Thanks Don.

See everyone in Queens, Sunday, late October.

Date: Sun, July 01, 2018, 22:22:47 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, "It's late on a Sunday night, and obviously I've nothing else better to do..."

QUOTE: "Hey M/O/D/P. Your contributions here have always conveyed a sense of being smug and superior. Are you really like that?"

Hi Gabe from Pennsylvania! To answer your question directly, yes, I am really like that. All the time, "24/7" as the cool kids say. I'm dead serious about being smug and superior, because I am totally dedicated to my art. The art of being smug and superior, that is. I certainly hope this is the answer you wanted to hear, Gabe from Pennsylvania, and I hope it ends any speculation on your part that any of my occasional contributions here might just have been served up with (at least) a bit of my pudgy tongue lodged firmly in one of my bloated, puffy, beef jerky-filled cheeks. Because my posts here are never "tongue-in-cheek", pal. They're dead serious. Can't you tell? Did you really need to ask? Are you happy now that you've shockingly & unexpectedly revealed the real me for all to jeer at??


ps - On second thought, a question: Have my bits really always conveyed this negative connotation as you assert, Gabe? I mean, like "always", meaning every last one of 'em? Even the time I posted a heartfelt review of the Bruce "The Boss" Springsteen concert I accidentally attended back in the Summer of '84? (or was it '85?). That post appeared here on The Blue back a couple of years ago - maybe before your time? - but I poured my heart & soul into that contribution. That was the real me, Gabe. No, wait. That review was insulting as hell and made me sound smug and superior, like a total dick. Never mind. Guilty as charged, Your Honor.

pps- Here's the deal, Gabe. There's no need for you to rub it in any further. I already know what I am, and I'm no happier about it than anyone else is.

ppps - Hey! I'm going to see the jazz/rock band "Steely Dan" tomorrow night, live & in concert! And I still plan to enjoy myself and have fun, even though the devastatingly-cruel-but-accurate accusatory words of Gabe from Pennsylvania will be ringing in my ears as the happy folks around me play with their iPhones, their grey ponytails, and (quite possibly) themselves. Wish me luck, everybody...

Date: Sun, July 01, 2018, 15:53:21 ET
Posted by: Gabe, PA

Hey M/O/D/P. Your contributions here have always conveyed a sense of being smug and superior. Are you really like that?

Date: Sun, July 01, 2018, 01:18:47 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Something I did not know. Paul Griffin is on piano in the iconic Bacharach/David Dionne Warwick recording of Walk on By.

Date: Sun, July 01, 2018, 01:18:31 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Something I did not know. Paul Griffin is on piano in the iconic Bacharach/David Dionne Warwick recording of Walk on By.

Date: Sun, July 01, 2018, 01:05:09 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Happy Canada Day to all the Canadian Bbookers out there!

Date: Sat, June 30, 2018, 23:07:59 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

not to mention the modulation...

Date: Sat, June 30, 2018, 23:07:51 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

not to mention the modulation...

Date: Sat, June 30, 2018, 23:01:54 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Rick Beato having fun breaking down Don't Take Me Alive and Larry Carlton's guitar solos.

He really relishes the complexities of the chords, voicing, and substitutions...and keeping Carol on her toes..

Date: Sat, June 30, 2018, 19:04:56 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

@ M/O/D/P
Sent you a note. Lookin'forward to seeing you guys on Monday. And any other Canuck Bbookers. Peace

Date: Sat, June 30, 2018, 18:46:36 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Just started reading "Major Dudes" today and I find it
to be THE best publication/periodical devoted to "Steely Dan".
It chronologically takes you from the birth of the band and
on to each album and beyond.
I give it a hearty endorsement. Steve

Date: Sat, June 30, 2018, 18:46:36 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Just started reading "Major Dudes" today and I find it
to be THE best publication/periodical devoted to "Steely Dan".
It chronologically takes you from the birth of the band and
on to each album and beyond.
I give it a hearty endorsement. Steve

Date: Sat, June 30, 2018, 17:52:16 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, In complete agreement

QUOTE: "...Steely Dan's real name is Walter Becker."

Perhaps no truer words have ever been posted here on The Blue.

Notwithstanding the deep thoughts of the masses of Summer 2018 concertgoers who sport ketchup-stained AC/DC t-shirts & silly baseball hats & droopy cargo shorts and who happily guzzle $18 Big Gulp Beers while not giving a flying Netherworld about who's in the band as long as they play those four or six songs we all recognize from the radio.

Thanks, Kenny, Ya made my day.

Date: Fri, June 29, 2018, 23:41:05 ET
Posted by: Steve,

Thanks for the reviews. Hope to see the band on Long Island.

Date: Fri, June 29, 2018, 12:14:30 ET
Posted by: Kenny, U

This street dedication is going to enlighten a lot of people to the fact that Steely Dan's real name is Walter Becker.

Date: Fri, June 29, 2018, 09:00:43 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

A reading of this, or a few select verses, could be a good fit for the celebration. Or maybe printed on the back of the program.

Date: Fri, June 29, 2018, 00:25:31 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago

This will be a fans' event. Look for upcoming information on how you can be part of this and help.

Date: Thurs, June 28, 2018, 21:35:01 ET
Posted by: FFD2, C000

1984 Rolling Stone story on Julian Lennon. "The music of choice was Steely Dan and Keith Jarrett." I wonder if Gaucho turned him on to KJ.

Date: Thurs, June 28, 2018, 16:35:32 ET
Posted by: The Walter Becker Way, Queens, NYC

Date: Thurs, June 28, 2018, 15:03:40 ET
Posted by: D-mod,

Do It The
Walter Becker Way :-)

Date: Thurs, June 28, 2018, 14:34:16 ET
Posted by: Wendell, II

The Home at Last drum cover is interesting to the extent that it's by a "Hey 19."

Date: Thurs, June 28, 2018, 13:44:43 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Keep your eyes peeled for something in the coolest "Way" happening today...😎

Date: Wed, June 27, 2018, 21:29:02 ET
Posted by: Nate, PA

To the people complaining about Katy Lied and Royal Scam outtakes being taken down from YT, here's a link to the download for both

This is why I never use YouTube to listen to SD outtakes and what not

Date: Wed, June 27, 2018, 13:33:06 ET
Posted by: Aja1, Newton

After finishing the book "Nica's Dream" by David Kastin, I can't help but wonder if Donald ever met the Jazz Baroness. Their tastes, style and authenticity are seemingly very similar and given Don's early love of going to the hot NYC Jazz clubs (not to mention his career) it just seems likely that their paths crossed.

It's a wonderful book, and describes the NYC jazz scene of the 50's and 60's well.

Date: Wed, June 27, 2018, 10:05:54 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

The Royal Scam outtakes have been shot to hell on YouTube, I had a piece on the 'Green Earring' instrumental that I'd hoped would encourage some of my younger readers to ... whatever. Stupid decision, whomever pulled those down and also the demo reels from the early 1970s.

During my constant driving this year, a listen to Porcaro on the Katy Lied outtakes on YouTube was one of my comforts, while I shivered off the hatchback sleep from the night before, trying to write about hoops in a McDonalds full of red hats.

Bummer that nobody else will have that experience. At least not for a little while.

Dandom is created off of stuff like this -- how many of us cut our teeth at Andy Metzger's site, or with the WAV files of tiny Second Arrangement clips dancing around websites in 1999? There are only nine Steely Dan albums, you have to turn in some give at some point.

Meanwhile, the Becker family is releasing everything it can because music is music and it helps, oh man, it helps.

Date: Wed, June 27, 2018, 03:00:51 ET
Posted by: Mt. Belzoni, Portland OR

Greetings Dandom.

I have intentionally avoided posting here since last October, after Hoops improvidently chose to remove my last post, apparently because it dared to characterize as 'odd' Steely Dan's decision to announce new shows only days after Walter's untimely passing. Hoops' rebuke was excessive and unwarranted, although it admittedly came during a difficult time for all Dandom.

I even chose not to post here a review of the band's (excellent) performance in Portland earlier this month.

Tonight, however, I came across something that I feel I should share with all of Dandom (unless Hoops chooses to pull this post as well.)

Some Dan fans may be familiar with the excellent instrumental jazz group Acoustic Alchemy, which has been releasing and performing great guitar-based jazz/flamenco/funk-tinged music since the mid 1980s. The group was founded by guitarists Greg Carmichael and Nick Webb. Unfortunately, Greg lost his co-founder Nick to pancreatic cancer in 1998, and eventually added another talented guitarist Miles Gilderdale. Also like the Dan, Acoustic Alchemy's band includes two siblings meshing musically on stage.

In any event, Acoustic Alchemy played the Aladdin in Portland tonight, in between stands at Humphreys in SD and Jazz Alley in Seattle (7 shows Th-Sun., if you're up there). Midway through their great set, they introduced a new song, dedicated to a person for whom we had the greatest respect: Walter Becker. (A sustained round of applause followed.) The song is a catchy blues shuffle which they've named Blues for Mister Mu? (clearly a reference to the famous Steely Dan Mu major chord).

Great song - it will be released in October on their new CD 33 1/3.

For a taste of Acoustic Alchemy, try

Date: Tues, June 26, 2018, 20:58:13 ET
Posted by: Sky Blue, Denver CO

Sorry, but die-hard Steely Dan fans don't want to hear recent Home At Last drum covers. I noticed YouTube removed Katy Lied & Royal Scam outtakes. Booo!

Date: Tues, June 26, 2018, 20:46:34 ET
Posted by: Gil, N

Recent Home at Last drum cover.

Date: Tues, June 26, 2018, 20:09:20 ET
Posted by: SoulMonkey, Louisville, Ky

If anyone wants to hang, we'll be at Lebo's on Kellogg Ave in Cincinnati around 5 tomorrow.

Date: Tues, June 26, 2018, 17:08:49 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

howdy everyone, I had a lot of fun at the Steely Dan show on Sunday:

Cincinnati conditions make it so that might be my last tour of the shed season, but we'll see, what a band

Date: Tues, June 26, 2018, 11:33:30 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Green Book has a very similar rhythmic keyboard figure, but harmonically it's quite different.

Date: Tues, June 26, 2018, 10:22:26 ET
Posted by: Aja1, Newton

Warren Bernhardt's solo on Teahouse during those '93 shows was some of my favorite piano work ever. Absolutely jumpin'.

Wait, what song on EMG is a recycle of Teahouse? (Blues Beach?)

Date: Tues, June 26, 2018, 07:26:19 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Hoops really nailed how things felt for me Sunday night in Indy, er, Noblesville, Indiana.


Hallelujah Time
Green Flower Street
Hey Nineteen
Black Friday
Time Out Of Mind
Kid Charlemagne
Black Cow
Green Earrings
Dirty Work
Babylon Sisters
Keep That Same Old Feeling
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years (encore)
A Man Ain't Supposed To Cry

I really enjoyed the new intro before the traditional beginning of Kid Charlemagne. Also, as a Crusaders fan anyway, I really liked Keep That Same Old Feeling as the bad intros song. Beyond that, the band was exceptional as always. I really enjoyed the Doobie Brothers set, but after hearing them, it really reinforced just how insanely talented the Steely Dan Band is, and how fucking good Donald and Walter's songwriting is. It was a lot of fun, I'm glad I went, but Walter's presence was dearly missed.

I went to Indy since it was the closest show to Louisville and it was going to be the only one near me not on a weekday, but since it was a Sunday night I still had to drive home after the show back to Louisville to go to work early the next morning, so I got a whopping 3 and a half hours of sleep. So of course the very next day a show in Louisville got announced...

Date: Tues, June 26, 2018, 05:43:45 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Thanks Hoops for a great and touching review.

Date: Mon, June 25, 2018, 21:02:05 ET
Posted by: Pete Di Nabile,

Hoops - I'm asking if WB's had/has a son names Kawai, in view of the recent article his daughter Sayan wrote about him.

I thought he had/has a son given this article:

Date: Mon, June 25, 2018, 20:08:07 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Tinley Park, IL
Thursday, June 21, 2108

Hallelujah Time (band)
Black Cow
Hey 19
Black Friday
FM (with Donald explaining the movie didn't do well, but the song did)
Greenflower Street
Kid Charlemagne
Green Earrings
Dirty Work
Don't Take Me Alive
Keep That Same Old Feeling with intros
My Old School
Reelin' In the Years (Encore)
A Man Ain's Supposed to Cry (Outro)


I attended the Grand Rapids, MI show a few weeks after Walter passed away. It was a lot like a wake. Great show, good to see people, but of course a lot of reminiscing. For me the peak was when Donald performed "Book of Liars" with a montage of Walter photos in the back. A subtle aspect was when band members handed off the introductions of each other.

I understand and respect that some are still not ready to attend a show with Donald and the Steely Dan band and without Walter. To each their own. I wanted to see and hear firsthand what it was about.

So the Thursday evening at the Tinley Park show, just outside of Chicago, was a very wet night but the show went on. The show had far from sold out, but for the attendees seated outside the area of the pavilion roof, especially the rain poncho-dressed fans on the lawn, the cool part was that the venue upgraded everyone to covered seating. Many of the upgraded seats were in the first several rows, center. I was in the 16th row center section but moved up to 8th for the last third of the show.

So what was the show like? The band played impeccably. The Doobies are great musicians but they didn't compare to the talented perfection of the Steely Dan orchestra. I know some people like to focus only on the set lists, evaluating a show by developing comparative ledger sheets. But with this band for the past 10-12 years, it's been all about the subtlety of the performances, the special nuances, unique moments that transcend. That was always the case for me as well with Grateful Dead shows. And of course, let's remember that for years we only had the same seven Steely Dan albums but after perhaps what was the 808th listen, I had an epiphany about some note or way a lyric was sung. So the band was wonderful. Never a dull moment.

But what about things without Walter? He was extremely missed and as always with Walter and Steely Dan, you sense it but it's hard to put the subtleties about what was said by not being said into words.

To me, it reminded me of one of a family's first holiday gatherings after one of the parents passes away. In my case, getting together with family after the first Christmas after my dad passed away was melancholy. It was good to be with loved ones, but he was missed, especially during certain rituals or a laugh that might be heard or an update from him that we had come to expect. You're glad to be together, but it's not quite the same. So Donald was his wonderful geeky-humored self with wonderfully geeky remark or laughs, but that chemistry when Walter would introduce a slyly risqu� comment or incisive quip was gone. You felt it during the spot when Walter would do the "Hey Nineteen" rap, it kinda slipped by. The band intros were nicely handed off between band members, but it also left me with the same feeling as when mom asked, "Which of you kids will carve the turkey as your father used to do?" And then as the kids cut the turkey, you think about how dad would have cut it thinner and more consistently, get the idea,

With Steely Dan being all about subtlety, the most subtle tribute to Walter was the unused mic stand and then there not being a second guitarist to replace Walter. Jon played great--to me he's the best of all the Steely Dan guitarists. He can do it all. But listening to the show, I was reminded of this compact Montgomery Ward stereo record player we had in the late 1960s-early 1970s. You know the kind that unfolded two speakers and a turntable from a suitcase-like configuration. Ours had a short in it and every so often you had to smack it to get the right speaker to work. Only the left speaker could be heard. So it was sort of the same thing here. I kept noticing I wasn't hearing all the sound--we just had Jon and not both Jon and Walter's playing of each other. That Walter wasn't replaced with a second guitarist really was a Steely Danesque kind of statement that those who were really listening and appreciating Steely Dan could hear.

Just a few stray comments: Donald just did one solo track--"Greenflower Street." Granted it was a mixed audience of Doobie and Dan fans, but I was surprised to hear a couple of different people on either side ask, "What is this song? What album is it from?" Also there was a bit of a run for the potties. Reminded me of something similar on "Gaucho" night during "My Rival." Frustrating. Another comment I have that I've always loved the studio version of "Rikki" but it previously never sounded as good for me as a live version. Thursday night it sounded great. Last point, Donald's voice sounded really good.

Date: Mon, June 25, 2018, 14:37:22 ET
Posted by: lil known, fact

Teahouse was in contention to be the title track. Or at least radio stations were, in late 1992, announcing it as the title of the forthcoming album.

Date: Mon, June 25, 2018, 13:18:57 ET
Posted by: Nate, PA

Ahh Teahouse on the Tracks. One of my top favorite DF tunes. I always listen to it when I'm in a good mood. Not sure about the setting, but I know it goes along with the whole story of Kamakiriad and how the main character contemplates wether he should keep going on his journey or not.

Date: Mon, June 25, 2018, 12:43:29 ET
Posted by: Joe Char, Huron

Fagen like Teahouse enough that he went �green� and recycled it on EMG.

Date: Mon, June 25, 2018, 12:24:57 ET
Posted by: Johnny C, Los Angeles

I love Teahouse On The Tracks. SD used to play this when the tours first began in 1993. Anything Donald writes is good.

Date: Mon, June 25, 2018, 11:45:44 ET
Posted by: Aja1, Newton

I've always wondered about Teahouse on the Tracks as it is one of my top three DF solo songs. I've always believed that it is about a club somewhere in one of the Villages of NYC. I have been reading a book called "Nica's Dream" which is about the Jazz Baroness of the 60's who came to NY and independently supported some of the Jazz greats (Parker, Monk, Blakey and others) both financially and emotionally. In the book, there are several, now defunct clubs that made me wonder if they might be part of the inspiration for the song.

Anyone else have thoughts on the setting for Teahouse?

Date: Mon, June 25, 2018, 07:37:15 ET
Posted by: Al, MI

I always thought Teahouse on the Tracks was inspired by his Cleveland jaunts. In the 80s, the Cleveland flats had an active club scene with live music. One of them was called Fagan's.

Date: Mon, June 25, 2018, 04:51:11 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland

Very poignant quote about Donald right at the end of the article CJB linked to:

"If you want to see him smile," his mother
remarks, "You have to see him with Walter"

Date: Sun, June 24, 2018, 22:56:14 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

Kreg's mention of DF's sister sent me searching for corroborating details.

Link below is to a transcribed Ohio newspaper article about the Fagen family, c. 2000, which I haven't previously seen, containing lots of local color:!topic/

Date: Sun, June 24, 2018, 01:47:17 ET
Posted by: Kreg, OH

Too bad Donald had a falling out with his sister (per his book.) Blossom used to be his family gathering show.

Date: Sat, June 23, 2018, 22:08:56 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Got a buddy sending me updates from Blossom tonight. Seems like a good show. And a decent crowd. Venue was nice last time we saw them there.

Date: Sat, June 23, 2018, 11:57:58 ET
Posted by: Johnny C, Los Angeles

I rewatched this video again and it's almost unbearable. I avoid concert footage on YouTube where the camera only focuses on one musician and the songs are incomplete. Only good thing about this video is the high quality picture and sound.

Date: Fri, June 22, 2018, 21:39:03 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

Johnny, maybe try watching it with the sound on?

Date: Fri, June 22, 2018, 18:43:51 ET
Posted by: Johnny C., Los Angeles

I hate the video. You can't see the whole band. It just focuses on Donald's face. Stinks!

Date: Fri, June 22, 2018, 08:34:06 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

That is quite a video. I like the way you can see Freddie Washington laying down the groove most of the time that DF is on camera. Sadly, the Danettes are missing.

Date: Fri, June 22, 2018, 02:26:38 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR

Excellent front-row footage & sound from the tour:

Date: Wed, June 20, 2018, 16:49:09 ET
Posted by: D-Mod,

My only "complaint" about the Major Dudes book is that several topics I would think are important are treated only briefly. For instance, material on 11 Tracks of Whack is limited to not much more than a single short review of no particular depth. Yeah I'm biased -- but wouldn't you think that (and any release, actually) merits more than that....or at least a cross section of opinions rather than a single review? Or some historical context (such as Jon Parales naming it one of his top 10 of the year), etc. Won't give any more spoilers.The material that's there is fine, and from legit sources. It's just not going to inform many dissertations on the music of SD :-)

For my money, John Granitino's masterpiece and labor of love "Steely Dan Reader"
is the place to go for in-depth coverage of everything.
Moreover, he is adding material all the time. In fact, if you have a pdf or text version of anything he doen't yet have online, you can help out by sending it to him.

Date: Wed, June 20, 2018, 16:07:14 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass

Also, I assembled a desk fan this morning. I don't wanna call this the best day of my life, but I'd be damn stupid not to buy a lottery ticket on the way home.

Date: Wed, June 20, 2018, 16:03:57 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass

Just got off the fence and got VIP tix for the Xfinity Center show in Mass. It's only 15 minutes from where we live - who knows how much longer this can go? No idea what VIP entitles us to other than better parking and a couple extras. Should be a good time.

Date: Wed, June 20, 2018, 01:07:27 ET
Posted by: AnyManLeft, Rio Grande

Just got Major Dudes today. After 89 pages my initial reaction is the material is an easy reading mix of prior reviews and interviews, some which are very repetitive material and some with new insights and information. Overall it's a generally historical collection of already published material that starts with the pre-SD years.And I did notice in the Contents there is a chapter on Walter's untimely death at the end of the book, which I am holding off to read until I get there.

Date: Tues, June 19, 2018, 14:09:40 ET
Posted by: Public Service, CT

If you'd like to peruse the book.

Date: Tues, June 19, 2018, 13:31:48 ET
Posted by: Major Dude, hanging out

I encourage all Steely Dan fans to pick up this book. It's a fun book to read with a lot of interviews.

Date: Tues, June 19, 2018, 10:48:54 ET
Posted by: Benny, Tempe AZ

That's probably the reason why Donald decided to put Any Major Dude on the setlist earlier on this tour. Maybe the book wasn't selling well or Donald read something he didn't like so he nixed it.

Date: Tues, June 19, 2018, 09:10:39 ET
Posted by: Selfish Gene, Where the hell's my apostrophe?

QUESTION/QUOTE: "Is it by any chance entitled �Steely Dan: Major Dude�s�?"

I recently bought a new SD book on eBay, but my hardcover copy didn't come with an apostrophe in "Dudes". I'm worried I may have inadvertently purchased one of those shoddy Chinese counterfeit Steely Dan books that seem to be flooding the market of late. Damn.

Date: Tues, June 19, 2018, 00:55:06 ET
Posted by: XR, N

And not so recent years.

Date: Mon, June 18, 2018, 22:24:46 ET
Posted by: BobO, ��-

Is it by any chance entitled �Steely Dan: Major Dude�s�? If so, it�s simply a compilation of other articles that appeared in recent years.

Date: Mon, June 18, 2018, 21:11:11 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

There's a new high profile "Steely Dan" book out. I saw it yesterday at Barnes & Nobles. Looks like an excellent read.

Date: Mon, June 18, 2018, 11:29:10 ET
Posted by: via MK, -

Lovely new short piece from Walter's daughter over on his site.

Date: Mon, June 18, 2018, 09:05:55 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

Have to admit (as I referenced in my earlier review) the crowd in Tampa for the DB/SD show was surprisingly into the music of both bands. Maybe it was the section where I was sitting. But don't think that was it as I have sat in that same section (Orchestra) many, many times before and typically encounter the "hit seeker" crowd who talk even during those very hits they seek. In spite of a generally great crowd there was one guy (isn't there always) who felt it necessary to yell a conversation to the person he was with during any part of any song. Maddening. Protected freedom of speech you say? I say, nay nay!!

I don't think anyone mentioned the other class of self absorbed yahoos who attend concerts these days. The ones who talk loudly ABOUT their personal devices and how to work their FakeBook accounts, etc.., for the pictures they are trying to post. All the while staring and comparing said personal devices.

In my observations, this phenomena of talking about everything but the entertainment you are there to see is not restricted to concerts. Been to plenty of NHL Hockey games where the conversation is entirely about something else.

Date: Mon, June 18, 2018, 01:26:13 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Re:Toronto Amp. Sure,the venue's not the greatest. But going to shows is now for me,a chance to hang with those of our kind,so looking forward to seeing Canuck Bbookers. We also had our first Non-Walt show last year(Windsor), and look forward to seeing DF+Steely Dan Band for a second time. And also the Oct run. Had to pass on Sat.Blossom show. But maybe 'Toga to see some other people from past shows. Peace

Date: Mon, June 18, 2018, 01:26:12 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Re:Toronto Amp. Sure,the venue's not the greatest. But going to shows is now for me,a chance to hang with those of our kind,so looking forward to seeing Canuck Bbookers. We also had our first Non-Walt show last year(Windsor), and look forward to seeing DF+Steely Dan Band for a second time. And also the Oct run. Had to pass on Sat.Blossom show. But maybe 'Toga to see some other people from past shows. Peace

Date: Sun, June 17, 2018, 20:44:18 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Recalcitrant, or not - YOU decide!

Well, tickets went on sale a few months ago for an early July Steely Dan/Doobie Brothers double bill at Toronto's awful, awful "Budweiser Generic Horrible Outdoor Concert Venue" (the former awful, awful Molson ArmpitTheater). For the first time in well over two decades, though, I wasn't exactly salivating at the prospect of scoring SD seats day-of-sale. Firstly, no matter what they call it, the venue itself is excruciatingly dreadful, and given this fact it tends to attract way too many of the type of fans who (perhaps unwittingly, perhaps not) always conspire to ruin the experience for me. Loud (and idiotic) non-stop conversation during songs, too many Big Gulp Beers, constant obsession with electronic devices throughout the performance - you know, perfectly acceptable public/concert hall behavior for 50-to-60-something "mature adults" [sic] circa 2018. As Popegreg just said, "Good show despite a terrible, horrible, no good very bad crowd". Terrible is bad, horrible is worse, no good is no good, and very bad just completes the shitty fourfecta. Again. And so it goes. I feel yer pain. Or, I'm about to, again.

Anyways, regarding the upcoming July 2nd show, in my own defense, I figger I've already seen my Steely-Dan-Without-Walter-Becker show. That was the Casino Rama (Ontario, Canada) show back in The Fall of '17. Not that I wouldn't have gone anyways - I would have - but I actually bought the tickets in mid August, well before the bad news came on September 3rd. The show ended up being a real downer for me, despite the usual high standard of musicianship et cetera. As Hoops noted here at the time, it was "very melancholy, indeed like someone had died". For me, for sure, and probably for a few others, but apparently not for most that puke-stained [tunic] October night. What follows is a previously-unpublished review of that October 2017 concert. Read on, if you dare...

As I have sometimes done at past live music events, I talked to a number of people before show-time in an effort to see what like-minded/"kindred spirit"-types might have to say. On that particular night, though, looking for kindred spirits at the casino was like looking for diamonds in a septic tank. Like paging C. Everett Koop in the smokers' lounge at The Limelight, circa 1956. Like searching for Jessica Alba on Skid Row. Or trying to find a prospective Mensa member at a Springsteen concert. You get the picture. Of the nine diehard Steely Dan fans I spoke with - that is to say, folks who liked or recognized the brand name "Steely Dan" enough to leave the confines of their bug-infested hovels and drive from parts unknown to attend the show, hell, maybe even actually pay for their goddamned tickets - incredibly, only ONE knew who Walter Becker was...and even that guy wasn't too concerned about any possible difference in the music with Walter missing. [FUCK]. Another veteran concertgoer flatly stated that he simply didn't care who was in the band - whatever act he was seeing - he'd seen 'em all, he told me - it didn't matter, he was clear on that - but rather it was the songs that mattered. When I told another fellow concertgoer that the band would likely be doing a couple of Donald Fagen solo numbers tonight, his response was unequivocal. "Well, I hope not. I came here for the hits, not for new material!". Obviously, for at least one diehard fan, songs from The Nightfly qualified as dreaded "new material".

At the merch table, a sloppy guy (55+ years old/bloated, distended belly/food-stained track pants/crude-looking "Aerosmith" t-shirt/in public - that surely matches the Oxford Dictionary definition of "sloppy", no?) remarked unfavorably about the posted price of an Aja shirt (or maybe it was a "hoodie" [sic], I dunno), with the comment that, "I like to listen to his music, but no way I'm paying $75.00 for a shirt!". So I also learned that as late as Fall 2017 we still had stunned people aimlessly wandering about the terrain referring to Steely Dan as "him". I honestly though that vein of stupid had by now been strip-mined well past the bedrock, but I was wrong. Or, more accurately, "wrong again". Again, in my own defense, I find myself on the wrong side of wrong a fair bit these days.

Anyways, at several points during the show I found myself thinking about our Norwegian friend Jazzassin's Bluebook post from September 4th. If you didn't read it back then, you should go back and read it now. It states exactly how I felt at the time, but he put it better, more viscerally, than I could have, then or now. "This is all just a sick joke, right?". Of course, it wasn't. As noted in other Bluebook reviews of those October '17 shows, the band played Book of Liars to a backdrop photo montage of WB, and his old space was left (appropriately, I think) empty. It was a nice respectful touch. At the show I attended, during the band intros, Jon Herington started introducing DF with, "the original, the originator..." a la Walter, then his voice dropped off in mid-sentence leaving the rest unsaid. Another quiet tribute. And so it went.

Several times I just stared at the stage and felt a lump in my throat, so I coughed quietly to get rid of it. Fucking lump.

In the end, a fat old lovable goofball-type sitting directly behind us - one who had been consistently loud throughout the entire performance, not surprisingly talking a lot (during songs, of course) about how much he loved & respected geriatric/perennially-embarrassing Classic Rockers "AC/DC", all while proudly wearing an "AC/DC" t-shirt - summed it up succinctly for the majority of the audience that night when he drunkenly hollered, "ROCK AND ROLL!!!!" repeatedly during each of the final three songs of the Steely Dan set. To be clear, he really didn't appear to be bothering anyone but me, and, in fact, at least a couple of people seemed to be cheering him on. See, he was in his element...among friends..."kindred spirits". And I'll bet my last piaster he'll be there - in spirit, if not in body - at every single Steely Dan/Doobie Brothers outdoor shed show this summer.

So, yeah, I'm going to the July 02 Toronto show, despite my reservations. I'll get to hear a really great live band play music I love, for one last time, and I'll get to hang out with fellow Bluebook poster Don Patrol. There's still something to be said for that...

Date: Sun, June 17, 2018, 18:28:18 ET
Posted by: Abu, No More Play Video, Rodie

Hey Steve, at least they finally stopped playing that annoying previously unknown SD tune called "Play Video" every other song. And to think that they did that four consecutive shows on May 30, Jun 1, 4 & 5.

Date: Sun, June 17, 2018, 17:50:59 ET
Posted by: popegreg, MKE

Well, Toby, Any Major Dude was played ... by me in the car on the drive out to Madison! ;)

Good show despite a terrible, horrible, no good very bad crowd. I wish I'd been wherever "Hey" was standing because everyone around us was taking loudly during both sets. Not much dancing going on either just asshats standing and carrying on loud, incessant convesations about shit like work schedules and law school. The irony of everyone yakking during a song called "Listen to the Music" was not lost on us. At least since it was GA, a few songs into the SD set, we were able to move a better spot that was more off center but not as chatty as where we were earlier. I just don't get why people pay money to go to concerts to talk, and are sofa king oblivious to those around them (who want to do crazy stuff like actually listen to the music).

Earl, I did not write down the setlist but we did get FM and DTMA !!! (which count as "suprises" to me.) I'd been hoping to hear FM again since that Beacon show in '15 when DF's organ broke and they stopped the intro and skipped it. It was a nice version, can't hear that one enough! Also in the "not every night category" were TOOM, Rikki, Dirty Work, Green Earrings, Josie. No Greenflower Street (or any DF solo), Aja or Black Cow. They opened with Bodi.

DF sounded pretty good and was quite animated despite the heat. The band sounded great but I agree with those who say that they could use a rhythm guitarist to augment Herrington. If they can have a 4 piece horn section they can add a guitarist.

Our first show without WB, boy was he missed. We could not hear what DF said about him over the crowd talking, but we did raise our cups to him during Hey 19.

Hoping for another good show on Thursday in Tinley Park. I'm going solo on that one and I may not get there until after the DBs go on. They were good and all but I enjoyed the latter half of the set better, which was more hits than deep cuts. Also, please let the crowd be better behaved since I can't move away from any idiots in my vicinity at that venue.

Date: Sun, June 17, 2018, 16:10:14 ET
Posted by: Hey, Madison

Madison�s setlist was very much �greatest hits.� No solo stuff, no surprises. That�s okay, pretty much what I was expecting. Donald was energetic, got up a lot, mentioned that he was here when Amy Helm graduated college. It was a good crowd, people were standing and dancing, it was easy to get close for those who wanted to. Was very hot and humid, as Donald commented on, and he had to wipe sweat off himself between every song. Band was tight as always, probably the best it�s ever been.

Date: Sun, June 17, 2018, 10:22:17 ET
Posted by: Earl, Brooklyn NY

Hey, popegreg! How was the show? Can you post the setlist?

Date: Sat, June 16, 2018, 17:39:19 ET
Posted by: Steve, St Paul

Last night's setlist:

Hallelujah Time (band)
Hey 19
Black Friday
Black Cow
New Frontier
Kid Charlemagne
Home at Last
Dirty Work
Keep That Same Old Feeling with intros
Pretzel Logic
My Old School
Reelin' In the Years (Encore)
A Man Ain's Supposed to Cry (Outro)

Mic left open for Walter again.

Date: Sat, June 16, 2018, 17:00:10 ET
Posted by: Rodie Joe, Denver

We all know this isn�t the �real SD� never the less Pretzel Logic sounds sooo good!

Date: Sat, June 16, 2018, 12:17:31 ET
Posted by: Toby, eating breakfast

They ain't gonna play Any Major Dude.
Donald scrapped it from the setlist early on the tour.

Date: Sat, June 16, 2018, 08:08:40 ET
Posted by: popegreg, MKE

Gonna be a hot one in Madison tonight! I�m still questioning the (pretzel) logic of this show at a soccer field with mostly standing areas. At least folks should be up dancing instead of toe tapping in their seats, if they�re not too overcome by the heat. Looks like it�s close to sold out too. Hoping for Deacon Blues or FM or DTMA or freaking Any Major Dude! Any of those will make it a cool show and worth the time spent baking.

Date: Sat, June 16, 2018, 01:35:20 ET
Posted by: Ports, Minneapolis

Gaucho & Pretzel Logic in set list St Paul tonight!

Date: Fri, June 15, 2018, 16:55:46 ET
Posted by: J, Hey

Michael Leonhart�s new one drops a week from today...

Radar: Take a Majestic Orchestral Journey with Michael Leonhart on 'The Painted Lady Suite'

Date: Fri, June 15, 2018, 16:32:59 ET
Posted by: J, Hey

Originally published in January 2013, this was re-published today:

�Five ways to play like Donald Fagen�

BONUS TIP #6 �It helps if you actually are Donald Fagen.�

Date: Fri, June 15, 2018, 00:35:15 ET
Posted by: D-Mod,

Doc Mu - I hope you and others also put your comments on wbmedia discussion boards's where, for instance, people like Larry (and a few others..) are most likely to read your compliments ... :-)

Date: Thurs, June 14, 2018, 19:39:29 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Crap - "Carlock." Damn auto-correct.

Date: Thurs, June 14, 2018, 19:38:15 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Larry Klein was outstanding in augmenting Walter's vision, the space within the recording, balance, and playing. Cool, but organic. Warlock has never sounded better, also.

FLAC files sound great (although I do have the original CD). It's hard to believe it's been 10 years...

Date: Wed, June 13, 2018, 20:31:06 ET
Posted by: D-Mod,

As many of you know, its C$'s anniversary week (month?). We're streaming the entire album from high fidelity (FLAC-level) files. Arrows will advance or rewind tracks or within-tracks.

Think of it as a listening party, open 24 hrs. Drop by to comment, read, listen.

(Almost) anything goes. BYOB, and we can always use more chip n' dip.

Date: Mon, June 11, 2018, 18:48:03 ET
Posted by: Via WBMedia,

Walter Becker Media updated with backstory on Circus Money to celebrate its 10th:

Date: Mon, June 11, 2018, 17:10:23 ET
Posted by: Dr. H�nd, Hanging Valley Wall, Colorado

Denver, cont.

Just pulled up seats 5 rows in front of stage via Altitude for $99 ea. plus fees. I haven't seen any flash seats sell for less or what I bought mine for on Friday night but it should be interesting between now and showtime tomorrow. It seems the flash seats have firmed on price on actual sales....but, there are many listings with little action. Who knows, this is like the stock market now. Buyers vs. sellers.

Date: Mon, June 11, 2018, 16:45:47 ET
Posted by: Dr. H�nd ,

Heads up for tomorrow's show in Denver. Promoter has slashed prices although many tickets have been sold for the 20k plus capacity Pepsi Center. I think this is the future of ticket sales, taken from the airline industry. Prices were lowered this weekend with lower level risers repriced at $35 plus fees of course. Still, you can get in for under $100 for two. Surprisingly, no upper level seats available. I got lucky on flash seats and and had my $25 bid per ticket accepted for two sweet seats right above the soundboard. $61.20 total with fs fee. They get fees from both buyers and sellers. I thought the promoter listed these but now I believe they were original promoter comp tickets. So if you can go tomorrow, check out seats directly from Pepsi Center (Altitude) and flash seats. My $25 bid were for $57 ask. Should be a good show with the right seats. No curfew.

Date: Mon, June 11, 2018, 15:43:13 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Released 10 years ago yesterday...Circus Money.

Date: Mon, June 11, 2018, 15:42:48 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Released 15 years ago yesterday...Everything Must Go.

Date: Thurs, June 07, 2018, 17:09:53 ET
Posted by: Yaz, Brooklyn

It would be a bad idea for Larry Carlton to join Steely Dan. Larry is a great guitarist but he's too old now and would slow down the band on the uptempo songs.

Date: Thurs, June 07, 2018, 16:45:35 ET
Posted by: Ray, .

Ned obviously has too much time on his hands.

Date: Thurs, June 07, 2018, 14:01:03 ET
Posted by: Bob ,

Don�t give up your day job, Ned.

Date: Thurs, June 07, 2018, 07:19:19 ET
Posted by: Ned, R

IHOP is changing its name to IHOB and they are inviting fans to guess what the B stands for. I will refer to them as the International House of Becker in honor of the musician who ate junkest pancakes there.

Date: Wed, June 06, 2018, 18:43:29 ET
Posted by: Pogo, CA

Too bad they pulled out Any Major Dude.

Date: Wed, June 06, 2018, 16:40:13 ET
Posted by: Rodie Joe, Chicago

looks like they are rotating setlist

i'll take the set list with FM and DTMA

june 5

Fan It, Janet
(Maynard Ferguson cover) (band only)
Play Video
Green Flower Street
(Donald Fagen song)
Play Video
Hey Nineteen
Play Video
Black Friday
Play Video
Play Video
New Frontier
(Donald Fagen song)
Play Video
Time Out of Mind
Play Video
Kid Charlemagne
Play Video
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Play Video
Black Cow
Play Video
Dirty Work
Play Video
Babylon Sisters
Play Video
Play Video
Keep That Same Old Feeling
(The Crusaders cover)
Play Video
Play Video
Play Video
My Old School
Play Video
Reelin' in the Years
Play Video
The Untouchables (band only)
(Nelson Riddle cover)

june 4

share setlist

Fan It, Janet
(Maynard Ferguson cover)
Play Video
Play Video
Hey Nineteen
Play Video
Black Friday
Play Video
Play Video
FM (No Static at All) [instrumental during band intro]
Play Video
Time Out of Mind
Play Video
Kid Charlemagne
Play Video
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Play Video
Green Earrings
Play Video
Dirty Work
Play Video
Don't Take Me Alive
Play Video
Play Video
Keep That Same Old Feeling
(The Crusaders cover)
Play Video
Black Cow
Play Video
Play Video
My Old School
Play Video
Reelin' In The Years
Play Video
The Untouchables (band only)

june 1

share setlist

Fan It, Janet
(Maynard Ferguson cover)
Play Video
Green Flower Street
(Donald Fagen song)
Play Video
Hey Nineteen
Play Video
Black Friday
Play Video
Play Video
Black Cow
Play Video
Time Out of Mind
Play Video
Kid Charlemagne
Play Video
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Play Video
Green Earrings
Play Video
Dirty Work
Play Video
Home at Last
Play Video
Play Video
Keep That Same Old Feeling
(The Crusaders cover)
Play Video
Play Video
Play Video
My Old School
Play Video
Reelin' in the Years
Play Video
The Untouchables

may 30

Fan It, Janet
(Maynard Ferguson cover)
Play Video
Play Video
Hey Nineteen
Play Video
Black Friday
Play Video
Play Video
FM (No Static at All)
Play Video
Time Out of Mind
Play Video
Kid Charlemagne
Play Video
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Play Video

Green Earrings
Play Video
Dirty Work
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Don't Take Me Alive
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Reelin' in the Years
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The Untouchables

Date: Wed, June 06, 2018, 01:09:40 ET
Posted by: Steely Dawg, Seattle

Glad to keep y�all updated !

Good show tonight !

Date: Wed, June 06, 2018, 00:36:35 ET
Posted by: Mr Wu, in bed

Hey guys! Somebody is posting tonight's setlist in Seattle on

Date: Tues, June 05, 2018, 16:55:48 ET
Posted by: Malone, NY

I just saw the setlist from last night's show in Portland OR on Same old shit.

Date: Tues, June 05, 2018, 12:49:28 ET
Posted by: Poe, sipping coffee

Still no setlists have been posted on or on this board for the past two Steely Dan shows. Interest is waning.

Date: Tues, June 05, 2018, 07:44:52 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Shit, M/O/D/P, you nailed that shit, no shitting.

Date: Tues, June 05, 2018, 01:06:32 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl


Date: Mon, June 04, 2018, 21:46:44 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Curled up in the fecal position

QUOTE: "Since none of us knows, why just shit all over DF and call it a money grab?"

Nicholas, I think I can answer your question. Because, my Steely Pal, it's "the internet" [sic], and every shitty shitter whoever shit all over anything now has an infinite number of opportunities to shit all over anything & everything, along with a seemingly bottomless reservoir of shit, and our friend Mr. Fagen (or "Fagan" as many internet "journalists" insistently insist on calling him) unfortunately does not get an exception to the shitting that these shitters shit.

Oh, and maybe the naysayers never considered that in leaving Walter's role empty, DF may just be quietly and discreetly showing some respect for him and his irreplaceability.

There you have it. A thoroughly plausible (albeit crudely-worded) answer to what was very likely a rhetorical question, and a new Bluebook record for most repetitive use of a single profanity in one post.

Date: Mon, June 04, 2018, 21:11:28 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Nicholas- - I agree. You can't replace Walter. That's the point.

On the Nighflyers tour with multi instrumentalists on board, two guitars were common.

Date: Mon, June 04, 2018, 17:39:53 ET
Posted by: Lockjaw, working

Yep, definitely get there early for The Doobie Brothers set. These guys really rock. Just be prepared to stand up and dance.

Date: Mon, June 04, 2018, 16:26:46 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Anyone who wants a wall of guitar sound can get there early enough for the Doobie Brothers set. No shortage there.

Why does every speculation about why no second guitar player was added attribute only selfish or bad motives to DF? Maybe he thought that leaving that hole in the band was a way to pay respect to WB. Maybe he likes the way the band sounds with only one guitar. Maybe he couldn't find anyone that he liked. Since none of us knows, why just shit all over DF and call it a money grab?

Date: Mon, June 04, 2018, 14:57:33 ET
Posted by: Bob, Not Your Uncle

Yes, Carlton did play last year. And the consensus among serious fans was that it was nice to see him but not all that big a deal. Jon did most of the lifting.

Date: Mon, June 04, 2018, 13:42:38 ET
Posted by: Stuart, Spokane, WA

What do you mean Larry Carlton today can't play like he did? Didn't Larry fill in for Walter at last year's Classic West/East festivals? I think Larry filled in for Jon Herington at a gig on the East Coast one or two years ago too. Sure, Larry has slowed down a bit due to age but he still has the chops.

Date: Mon, June 04, 2018, 01:38:54 ET
Posted by: Victor, In bed

I think the real reason they won't add a rhythm guitarist is financial. Donald probably doesn't want to pay the extra money.

Date: Sun, June 03, 2018, 22:15:30 ET
Posted by: Bob, Not Your Uncle

Hire Larry Carlton? They already have a lead guitarist�Jon Herington. Maybe they need a rhythm guitarist to complement Herington. I suspect you�ve not seen Larry play with Steely Dan in the past 10 years. Thing is, Larry Carlton today can�t play like he did 35-40 years ago when they were doing all those Steely Dan albums. Similar story for Denny Dias. I regret I have to state that but just saying the truth. Connor Kennedy would be great, but again, Jon is already a great lead guitarist. They don�t need two lead guitarists. Plus I�m sure Larry wants a lot of money cause he�s a big name.

Date: Sun, June 03, 2018, 19:46:36 ET
Posted by: Stuart, Spokane, WA

Well, Donald can't change the name of the band even if he lost his key partner. He has to keep using Steely Dan in order to attract concertgoers and sell tickets. Can they hire Larry Carlton to fill Walter's shoes?

Date: Sun, June 03, 2018, 11:51:11 ET
Posted by: Greg M, To those saying it�s a �Money Grab�

Steely dan lite?? LOL. That�s sorta lame.

What about keeping this large band and crew employed for another season? It�s not just Don. I�m all for it.

Date: Sun, June 03, 2018, 04:07:19 ET
Posted by: Senor Steely, Mountain View

It's just not Steely Dan without Mr. Becker. It's something like Steely Dan but it ain't the same. No way, no how. Gotta be real about it. Glad they are out there, but this is something else. SD lite.

Date: Sat, June 02, 2018, 20:22:52 ET
Posted by: Rodie Joe, On couch

I agree with the previous poster , they really need a rhythm guitar player . Jon is smoking the lead guitar but no way he can cover all the guitar parts alone . I hate to say it but I think it�s a $ with DF . He doesn�t want to share any more of the pie. I�m very elated he�s still trying to keep the music of SD alive whether it�s a Money grab or not .
Didn�t like last nights set list . 5-30-18 imho was a great set list and hopes he reverts back to that Set list .

Date: Sat, June 02, 2018, 17:09:35 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF

Agree with Bruce,very good show. Numerous crowd.
Highlight for me was a jazzy, almost understated Rikki � sublime.
These stellar musicians performed great of course.
Band sounded/felt somewhat different for me though.
Jim Pugh, Michael Leonhard, Cindy Mizelle were replaced.
Walter of course cannot be replaced and his missing musicianship, soul and wit created a sad vacuum.
IMO, the band sound suffers though by not having a second guitar player.
As great as Jon is, with all the soloing it�s perhaps too much for one set of hands and Walter also added a lot of punch rhythmically.
Maybe most the crowd didn�t notice so much but some songs, Josie or Hey 19 for instance almost sounded like a track was missing.
Donald runs this very efficient, almost like a corporate entity now.
I doubt we�ll see him again with the Nightflyers, which for me would have been preferable � at least for this year.
Having said that, we have to be grateful they�re still out there and they�re still unmatched.

Date: Sat, June 02, 2018, 13:29:23 ET
Posted by: Bruce, at the airport

Some random thoughts from last night's show: Setlist was OK but could have been better. No big surprises. Band was hot & cooking. Donald was extremely bouyant and jubilant. Walter is SORELY missed. His musical contributions are irreplaceable. Steely Dan really isn't the same without him.

Date: Fri, June 01, 2018, 21:16:05 ET
Posted by: Kreg, C

I was browsing Hulu and this documentary about record producing popped up which I'm going to watch.

Was hoping for it to be more Dangential but Jim Keltner appears to be the only SD alumnus.

Date: Fri, June 01, 2018, 13:32:16 ET
Posted by: Patrick, ready to see Steely Dan tonight

The reviewer down below doesn't know Steely Dan. He calls Walter Becker "the quiet guy behind the guitar". I guess he never heard Walter's Hey 19 raps.

Date: Fri, June 01, 2018, 10:34:14 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Indy

Date: Fri, June 01, 2018, 07:17:15 ET
Posted by: Rodie Joe, Tennessee

To Lenny who said FM needs WB. Don�t if you are aware they have 4 different versions of this song . This is the version they played . It�s with the sax outtro not WB guitar . IMHO this is the best version . Listen for yourself

Date: Thurs, May 31, 2018, 20:27:50 ET
Posted by: Jim McKay, Chicago

The latest edition of the Dandom Digest was sent out in the past hour or so. It covers February 21-May 31, 2018. (The previous Dandom Digest covered January 11-February 20, 2018.)

The following are the subjects/headlines of the items in the latest newsletter:

25 Years Since Kamakiriad
New Demos, More from Walter Becker Media Archives
Excerpts from 5/29/18 Official Walter Becker Newsletter
Review of "Just One Season"
Updates to the Hey 19 Emporium
A Beautiful Remembrance of Walter

SD/Mark Ronson Collaborator Michael Leonhart Releases New Music
The Michael Leonhart Orchestra, The Painted Lady Suite, Out June 22nd.

New Purdie Album
DF on Producing Peter More
DF, Larry Carlton & Jeff Baxter on "Spinal Tap" Followup
Irving Azoff launches "Unmanageable" SiriusXM Radio Show
HELP: Petition for 5.1 Mixes of SD Catalogue
Universal Music Group: Please Release Steely Dan�s Early Albums in 5.1
Guitar Tabs & Chords for "Greenflower Street"
Love Rocks NYC 2018 A handful of vids including RITY & Aja
DF on 2018 Tour
SPOILER: SD 2018 Tour Keyboards Discussion
SPOILER: North Carolina Tour Opener
SPOILER: Charlotte Tour Opener
SPOILER: Atlanta
SPOILER: Nashville
SPOILER: Nashville Show
SPOILER: New Orleans Show
SPOILER: LA Forum Show
Regarding SD Websites
Steely Dan White Pages Update Coming

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Thanks to all who contributed to the latest edition of the Dandom Digest, be it through the emailing digest AT dandom DOT com or through posting to our BlueBook guestbook or Facebook page; or tweeting @dandomdotcom.

As always, thank you for your support and writings through the years, especially Pete and Shari, always Matt, as well as Mr. & Mrs. Winterbottom, and especially thinking of Mark, Bill, and Fezzie, and purposely not to mention a couple of people who request anonymity. And now of course in special way, Walter.

Fly about as low, be so cool,


Date: Thurs, May 31, 2018, 15:43:37 ET
Posted by: Messenger,

Jazz gods Goldings, Bernstein, and Stewart just put out a new album, �Toy Tunes,� with the song �Fagen� dedicated to you-know-who. Goldings wrote the song. I chatted with him after a show a couple months ago (which was one of the best I�ve ever seen) about the tune and SD. There is something vaguely SDish about it but it�s hard to pin down. Goldings is not even sure. I suggested it sounded vaguely like some lines from �Gaucho� and he said that might be it. There�s a brain teaser for all you to work on.

In any case he expressed immense respect for SD and the sophistication and complexity of their tunes. High praise coming from a musician like Goldings. He is undoubtedly one of the greats.

Hope Fagen hears it. Maybe he can bring Goldings into the orchestra...

Date: Thurs, May 31, 2018, 14:25:33 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

Thanks, Gus!

Date: Thurs, May 31, 2018, 12:58:19 ET
Posted by: Lanny , Berkeley CA

I was watching Steely Dan perform "FM" at the show in Irving, TX on 5/25/18 on YouTube. The song desperately needs Walter Becker. It doesn't sound the same without him.

Date: Thurs, May 31, 2018, 12:31:31 ET
Posted by: Trivia, Bored waiting for lunch

Which album has two songs in the same sequence as two songs in Gus�s setlist? It stuck out to me because it was one of my first SD purchases and I still associate the one song following the other.

Date: Thurs, May 31, 2018, 12:19:05 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

Hey Gus! Thanks for the report. Hope to see you down the road.

Date: Thurs, May 31, 2018, 04:31:36 ET
Posted by: Gus Winterbottom, Torrance, CA

Steely Dan at the (LA) Forum
30 May 2018 Setlist

INTRO: Hallelujah Time ~9:20 PM (I was informed that this is the version performed by Woody Herman in 1964; I had never heard it myself)

Hey 19
Black Friday
Time Out of Mind
Kid Charlemagne
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Green Earrings
Dirty Work (Danettes rotating on vocals)
Don't Take Me Alive
Keep That Same Old Feeling/Band Intros
Black Cow
My Old School

ENCORE: Reelin' In The Years

OUTRO: Untouchables Theme ~11:00

Just a couple of notes for now: Jim Pugh was replaced tonight by Mark Patterson. The Doobie Brothers opened with a 75 minute set of 14 or 15 songs.

Date: Wed, May 30, 2018, 06:36:26 ET
Posted by: Bob, Try here. Try here. Try here.

Doc Mu: My understanding is that S Victor Aaron at Something Else Reviews is a psueudonym for somebody who also posts in Steely Dan fan circles including here. I�d value your opinion with a lot more consideration.

Date: Wed, May 30, 2018, 02:39:27 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Something Else Reviews agrees.

Date: Tues, May 29, 2018, 13:40:03 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

New Walter song/demo released. It's a winner - one of my favorites.

Date: Mon, May 28, 2018, 18:09:30 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

The DVD-A version of Kamakiriad is fantastic. Counterman shimmers in excitement. Plus as a bonus, both videos. I bought a Yamaha disc player and receiver just to play Kama, Nightly, Gaucho, and TvN in DVD-A. Renovated Bose stereo speakers to hear the great work of Eliot Schooner on the DVD-A stereo mixes, which are superb. Anything that sounded flattened on CD versions of Gaucho and Nightly became 3-D in soundscape with space and separation. Never did spring for the full 5.1 effect.

Date: Mon, May 28, 2018, 16:14:09 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

Dallas show was fantastic and very nice venue. IGY was highlight. Sound was exceptional much better than Houston venue. Donald's voice never sounded better.

Date: Sun, May 27, 2018, 20:08:15 ET
Posted by: Gerry, Up

Funny thing about music, good or bad, is that you remember it how you first experienced it and the passage of time doesn't mean much. Playing Kamakiriad now takes me back to when it first came out as if it were last month and I was playing it on a high end stereo and loving it. It makes me realize I'm just me 25 years later, even though I was 24.5 when it came out which makes me twice as old.

I have since acquired it on two failed formats. MVI as part of the boxed set and DVD-A. And the original copy I bought in '93 had the missing drum fills on Countermoon.

Date: Sun, May 27, 2018, 17:43:14 ET
Posted by: Steve,

Amazing to think that Kamakiriad is a quarter of a century old.

My kids who are out of college, one just out of grad school, wasn't even born.

Just wow!

Date: Sun, May 27, 2018, 15:15:21 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago, on the quick

Underscoring Chris' post. Donald isn't out there cruising YouTube for boots. I'm fairly confident that he doesn't even spend much time online.

Date: Sun, May 27, 2018, 11:47:24 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

I could be wrong, but I don't think it's Donald cruising YouTube for Steely Dan videos and sending takedown videos

Date: Sun, May 27, 2018, 10:38:30 ET
Posted by: Gary Smith, Orlando, FL

I wish people who upload videos of Steely Dan's current tour would upload the rarely played cuts that die-hard fans want to hear. You know, like Any Major Dude, New Frontier, Green Flower Street, FM, IGY, etc. I always loved Walter Becker's tasty guitar licks on FM. I wonder what the song sounds like without Walter?

Date: Sat, May 26, 2018, 20:29:22 ET
Posted by: Gary Smith, Orlando FL

This kind of thing happens all the time on YouTube. Donald probably saw it and forced YouTube to remove it. Good concert footage always gets yanked off eventually but sometimes it reappears again.

Date: Sat, May 26, 2018, 19:58:27 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

I've noticed a lot of great "Steely Dan" and "Donald Fagen" concert footage has been added to YouTube over the past week.
What I'm not sure of is why the live version of "The Second Arrangement" from Rarities Night which had 2 separate versions on YouTube...why were they taken down ? Hopefully someone reading this will repost those videos.

Date: Sat, May 26, 2018, 18:28:01 ET
Posted by: Burl, D

These comments from Frank Zappa in 1983 regarding recording budgets help explain why there was never going to be another SD record.

Date: Sat, May 26, 2018, 15:36:05 ET
Posted by: Forest Gump, Unknown

Going to a Steely Dan show is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.

Date: Sat, May 26, 2018, 11:27:11 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, left of the Rio Grande

Dallas Setlist - maybe the best yet this tour.

Fan It, Janet (Maynard Ferguson cover)
Hey Nineteen
Black Friday
Time Out of Mind
Kid Charlemagne
Home at Last
Dirty Work
Keep That Same Old Feeling
Black Cow
My Old School

Reelin' in the Years
The Untouchables (band only)

Date: Sat, May 26, 2018, 09:04:40 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

How could I forget to mention Jon Herrington? He was right on target ask night. And Freddie Washington never gets the credit he deserves - he just lays down a perfect beat all night.

Urfe out!

Date: Sat, May 26, 2018, 09:00:23 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Make that "Band was tight," although they were also right.

Date: Sat, May 26, 2018, 08:59:08 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

The sound in Dallas was fantastic. Band was right. DF mentioned WB early, maybe after Bodhi, which was the opener after DF came out, maybe to play off of high energy from the Doobies. A little banter. Chuck Rainey came on stage and played bass on Peg, nice treat. Twin son from different mother of Morgan Freeman. Nice intro to Kid C. Danettes supreme. Carlock othetworldly. Jim Beard hot. Horns smoking. I.G.Y. Godwhacker. What's not to love?

Date: Sat, May 26, 2018, 07:40:10 ET
Posted by: Rodie Joe , Milwaukee

Looks like DF is changing up the set list on a regular basis . We�ve been wanting him to to this for a couple decades . It makes it more exciting to go to the show and not knowing what songs are going to be played and getting amped when you hear an unexpected song or two . Let�s hope he keeps it up .

Date: Sat, May 26, 2018, 01:21:26 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

Somebody just posted the setlist on for tonight's show in Irving, TX. Two surprises: They played FM & I.G.Y.

Date: Fri, May 25, 2018, 09:33:08 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

My 14th SD show and 3rd DB. I've always been a doobs fan and they were very good. Lots of energy. It took me a few songs to get used to Walter not being there. Herrington was simply awesome. Bodi brought down the house. Sound at this new venue was a bit disappointing. Headed to Dallas.

Date: Fri, May 25, 2018, 08:00:23 ET
Posted by: Paul, On the Duned

Happy 25th Anniversary of Kamakiriad! 🏎🏎🏎

Date: Thurs, May 24, 2018, 11:47:26 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Sunny Indy


My little pretty one and I made it to the Nashville show to start our Summer of Living Dangerously and Catching Some Top Notch Shows Ticket Prices Be Damned! The setlists were shortened due to Ma Nature. Instead of starting at the scheduled 7:30 kickoff, the Doobies played from 9 to 10, and The Dan jammed from 10:30ish to close to 12. The soggy situation on a Sunday lowered the party vibes of the crowd some, and thus the bands, too, but a SD show is like the classic sex and pizza joke - they're enjoyable no matter what, and best when messy!

Tix are in hand for Tinley Park and Indy shows (Deer Creek's renamed again) and here's hoping to hit a few other shows this tour as they roll through the Midwest.

For fellow Allman Brothers fans, Marc Quinones adds his talents to the DB's rhythm section.

Finally, if you've never made it to the Indy 500, add it to your Bucket List!

Date: Wed, May 23, 2018, 12:06:42 ET
Posted by: Hanson, SoCal

Did they phase out Major Dude from the setlist? Shame!

Date: Wed, May 23, 2018, 01:31:15 ET
Posted by: Steely Director, NOLA

Fan It Janet (I think)
Green Flower Street
Hey 19
Black Friday
New Frontier
Time Out Of Mind
Kid Charlemagne
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Green Earrings
Dirty Work
Babylon Sisters
Keep That Same Old Feeling
Black Cow
My Old School
Reelin' In The Years

Date: Tues, May 22, 2018, 22:52:03 ET
Posted by: Hanglo, FL

Nate is correct. Only Summer of Living Dangerously T-shirts are being sold.

Date: Tues, May 22, 2018, 22:32:47 ET
Posted by: Nate, Bogs of Jersey

As far as I've seen, the only merch sold was just SoLD (Summer of Living Dangerously) t-shirts. Can anyone prove me wrong?

Date: Tues, May 22, 2018, 21:33:13 ET
Posted by: DonB, Los Angeles

Great moment of SD community experienced on the beach path in Venice, CA today: I was walking to the studio, singing along to my earbuds with abandon. (Singing along with your earbuds doesn't even get you into the Top 10 craziest people on the beach...) Katy Lied was today's pick, and by the time I got to Venice, I was on "Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More." As I launched into the bridge � DRIVING LIKE A Fo0O0oL OUT TO HACKENSACK � a random long-haired dude walking the other way joined in � DRINKING HIS DINNER FROM A PAPER SACK!!! Warm Steely fuzzies all around.

Date: Tues, May 22, 2018, 16:19:14 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Can someone post a photo of the Merch being offered at this year's Steely Dan tour.

Date: Tues, May 22, 2018, 10:16:43 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Sanibel Island

These offerings of unreleased WB material through the new Walter Becker Media site really make for riveting listening. As a huge fan of Circus Money (in particular), I can't get enough. The demo for Paging Audrey raised the hair on the back of what's left of my neck.

A huge thank you to Walter's family for revealing this stuff. Please keep them coming.

It still feels entirely wrong that he's gone.

Date: Tues, May 22, 2018, 07:33:24 ET
Posted by: Mike Landry, Indy

Pretty swesome stuff! I wonder if there is enough material to make a complete album of Walter Becker solo stuff.

Date: Mon, May 21, 2018, 21:09:52 ET
Posted by: Walter Becker Media,

Demos for Paging Audrey:

and Three Picture Deal:

up at

Date: Mon, May 21, 2018, 16:44:07 ET
Posted by: CJB, Whut, huh?

This is a dumb criterion:

<<not a true SD song because DF was not on the vocals>>

Out goes Slang of Ages, not to mention live performances of "Monkey," "Daddy," "Midnight Cruiser," "Gaucho" etc. I can go on.

Date: Mon, May 21, 2018, 16:25:56 ET
Posted by: Greg M, Re Dirty Work:

<<not a true SD song because DF was not on the vocals>>

Scratching my head at this one...

Date: Mon, May 21, 2018, 15:34:49 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,

Ham - that's correct, I think. Curfews (ex. Raleigh) are affecting the length of these double headers.

Date: Mon, May 21, 2018, 09:35:26 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

Last night's show must have had a curfew. The Doobie Brothers only played a 12 song shortened setlist according to

Date: Mon, May 21, 2018, 07:08:34 ET
Posted by: Rodie Joe, Airport

Set list 5-20

Green Flower Street
Hey Nineteen
Black Friday
Black Cow
Kid Charlemagne
Dirty Work
Keep That Same Old Feeling
My Old School

Reelin' in the Years

A little shorter set list then the others .
Looks like DF keeps juggling a few songs on each night . (About time )
Notes : so glad they got rid of Babylon Sisters (boring live & over played )
Never liked �dirty work� (not a true SD song because DF was not on the vocals ) should ace it from the set list.
Would love to see DTMA back in the set list
This is from 5-17

Date: Mon, May 21, 2018, 01:54:53 ET
Posted by: Ice Prince, Frozen in time

a friendly reminder; is frozen in time, and can never be more or less than a snapshot of .v1 as it existed on the morning of September 3, 2017.

So band members you mighht find the list from Vegas in spring of 17, but any changes after that will never be on sdarchive if the change came after Sept 3 2017.

The archive is still 101% comprehensive in the preservation of past -- its clear (so far) that everything that ever appeared on for 20+ years is still there, in the archive (as it was on the site). But any happenings after the "flash-frozen" date will never appear there. The site will never be updated. It is in amber.

Some official sites that night be feeding updated information like the band are
The Official Steely Dan website,

and maybe SD'sFacebook at

Date: Mon, May 21, 2018, 00:11:28 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

Partial setlist for tonight's show in Nashville is now posted on They played Godwhacker from my favorite Steely Dan album "Everything Must Go".

Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 23:08:11 ET
Posted by: moray eel, Way deep into something special

Do you take me for a fool or do you think that I don�t see that ditch out in the valley that they�re digging just for me?


Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 21:06:02 ET
Posted by: DonP, Los Angeles

Never heard of but I'll definitely do that. Thanks for your "friendly" reply

Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 20:58:04 ET
Posted by: Old Wu, NY

Just go to and look for it yourself. The BlueBookers can't be bothered with newcomers to SD.

Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 19:55:16 ET
Posted by: DonP, Los Angeles

What musicians are touring with DF on the current tour?

Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 16:54:00 ET
Posted by: Chris, Atl

Show looked to be nearly sold out. Doobies did get people on their feet, more sitting during SD but plenty of enthusiasm.

DF�s energy has been on the upswing in the past few years. But WB had the natural connection with the audience. DF doesn�t really, he has to work for it. . So he leans into his oddball persona. That�s my read, anyway.

Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 15:03:59 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

What I liked best about this piece was that I was channel hopping and stopped because. I happened to like the song they were playing. Then I discovered it was an interview about the new Bernard Purdie album. The interviewer is a little too "NPR-ish" but overall a great listen.

Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 13:00:26 ET
Posted by: Jake, Burbank CA

But Donald appears more energetic and talkative on this tour. Did anybody here see Donald on his 2006 Morph The Cat solo tour? I did and he seemed pretty introverted. Of course, he was battling a miserable cold.

Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 11:38:58 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Donald was pretty animated on the Nightflyers Tour. I think he enjoys just being now. Living from day to day. A tad more comfortable in his own skin; less affected by depression.

Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 09:52:00 ET
Posted by: Cracker Jack, just got up

I just read a review of last night's show in Georgia. The reviewer states the audience gets to hear 3 1/2 hours of hits and deep cuts from The Doobie Brothers & Steely Dan. Sorry, too lazy to post the link. Need coffee.

Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 09:31:00 ET
Posted by: Homer, New Jersey

Do you think Donald is taking uppers or some kind of stimulant before he goes on stage?

Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 09:21:36 ET
Posted by: Andy, Awake

Another factor to consider is the loss of Walter. Donald might feel more talkative or nervous without his partner on stage.

Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 08:38:13 ET
Posted by: Andy, Awake

No, I think it's because Donald knows he has to follow a high adrenaline band like The Doobie Brothers. This puts pressure on Donald. He has to work up the crowd or people might start walking out. Also, he might be sipping a high energy drink like Red Bull.

Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 07:57:39 ET
Posted by: Cobalt Cigarettes , Dream land

I think Donald may be on �something�
He has a lot more energy at these shows .
He is way more talkative .
He is messing up a few versus . He totally messed up the first verse on Black Friday on opening night .
Just my 3 cents

Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 01:00:05 ET
Posted by: Andy, sleepy in bed

Hey, Chris. How was crowd attendance at the show? Also, did The Doobie Brothers get a bigger reception from the audience?

Date: Sun, May 20, 2018, 00:17:11 ET
Posted by: Chris, ATL

Real one:

Phone is dying - here are the cliff notes:

- just Carolyn Leonhaet and Latonya Hall on backups tonight - they are both perfect in every way, but this band needs a 3rd
- Jim Beard had another Nord Stage and some kind of synth in lieu of a grand piano. I�m sure he�d prefer the grand, and normally I would too. But for this type of venue, I don�t think the aural experience suffered - in fact, it might have benefitted, as I could hear him maybe more clearly than ever.
- Animated and loose DF. Kept making jokes about Rodger Rosenberg�s bari. (�Is it getting any lighter? No?� )

Intro (not Fan It Janet- new for this year)
Green flower - 3rd time in 2 yrs I�ve seen this opener (including Nightflyers) and Fagen fucks up at least one entrance. This time it was a verse and more notably the bridge, where he kept soloing into it. Weird that he�s persistently making mistakes on the opener of all somgs. Very quick and professional recovery,anyway ...
May 19
Black Friday
Black cow
Kid C
The new intro is the chords under �did you realize that you were a champion in their eyes� a few times. Works very well. Couldn�t hep but notice its basically the bit that plays at the beginning of that Kanye track....
Any major dude - I�m sure they�ve played this before this summer but it was a first for me. Stuck very close to the original. I loved it.
Green Earrings - great solos all around. JH and JB (on synth) traded at the end of the song.
DIrty Work) Fagen introduces CL as �Catherine� - this marks the 3rd time
I�ve seen Fagen and/or Becker mess up her name - come on guys, she�s only been on the band for over 29 ya

Bodhi (cocaine tempo)
Band intros - huge improvement over
The last one- song had some hip shit
Deacon (�song that ladies like� - DF)

Date: Sat, May 19, 2018, 23:17:17 ET
Posted by: Guido, Atlanta

No such word as irregardless. Look it up.

Date: Sat, May 19, 2018, 23:08:27 ET
Posted by: Seafoam Mean, Bodega Bay via Queenz

"doesn't finish the tour" "hope its not the last" chill out twirps, thats the best setlist ive seen in a while and be happy they're touring, irregardless of the money behind it.

Date: Sat, May 19, 2018, 18:44:59 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

Good. Looking forward to it.

Date: Sat, May 19, 2018, 17:27:52 ET
Posted by: Chris, Elsewhere

On my way to the Atlanta gig, phone battery permitting I�ll try and post some setlist updates, at the very least after the show. It�s May 19!

Date: Sat, May 19, 2018, 15:54:46 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass

On second thought, scratch last statement. I can be snobbish about music as well.

Date: Sat, May 19, 2018, 12:56:31 ET
Posted by: Josey, Mass

Del in PA - I wish the Porcaro brothers were still here to respond. This should require no further 'splainin'

Date: Fri, May 18, 2018, 15:42:00 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

That's because Steely Dan had a very complex and sophisticated sound compared to their contemporaries. They didn't aim their music at teenagers. More towards adults. They are one of the few rock artists/bands from my youth that I still listen to.

Date: Fri, May 18, 2018, 14:52:43 ET
Posted by: Del, PA

I'll bet Fagen is rather snobbish in opinions of most of his contemporaries (e.g. Billy Joel, Hall & Oates, Toto) from that era. And I agree with him 100%.

Date: Fri, May 18, 2018, 14:40:02 ET
Posted by: Carson, Seattle

I agree with Steve from Tampa. I'd love to see Hall & Oates open for Steely Dan but it would never happen. Hall & Oates would demand to be the headliner and have Steely Dan open for them.

Date: Fri, May 18, 2018, 14:05:48 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland

Reading the discussions around how Steely Dan might follow a more commercial or direct band such as The Doobies got me thinking about how some of the SD classic albums would fare if they were released in 2018 instead of 1977?

Take 'Aja', probably the high watermark of SD's career: Complex chord progressions, an emphasis on horn charts, unusual chord structures/voicings, non 4/4 time signatures, 8 minute 'suites', no tour for 3 years to promote and a band with zero image (zero conventional 'band' too!). It shifted 5 million copies all told. Would there be any room for it to gain acceptance or even airplay in today's format driven, commercial, image orientated, 2 minute attention span market or would it languish on some niche jazz fusion label and sell a couple of hundred thousand units with maybe Josie picking up a little airplay??

Sadly I think I know the answer.

ps: my tuppenceworth on the age old 'setlist debate' is the Donald Fagen has, at the age of 70, earned the right to do whatever the fuck suits him (and my opinion is no more valid than anyone else's)

Date: Fri, May 18, 2018, 13:48:59 ET
Posted by: ted,

what new outro black friday? they been doing that for years

Date: Fri, May 18, 2018, 10:51:27 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

"Hall & Oates" would be my dream tour partners. They put on a great mellow show and they usually only play 80 minutes anyhow so..they would be a great opener.

Date: Fri, May 18, 2018, 10:36:59 ET
Posted by: Lucky, Nashville TN

I personally feel The Doobie Brothers aren't the best act to open for Steely Dan. The Doobies are a very high energy "get up, drink and party" type band. By the time they finish their set the crowd is all drained out. SD needs to get back Michael McDonald as the opener. Then Michael could come out and join SD for several songs like before.

Date: Fri, May 18, 2018, 10:04:52 ET
Posted by: Casual fan, Orlando

Was at the WPB show and really enjoyed it. My concerns about a dismal turnout proved unfounded as I'd say the regular seating was about 90 pct full and there must have been 500 to 800 ppl. on the lawn.

Doobie Bros were good. I'm just not that big a fan. I had three newbies with me and I think the reason it may seem that people are reacting more to them than SD is that SD didn't come on until after 9. By then, the combo of alcohol, humidity, and being older than most festival audiences takes its toll.

Highlights for me were Bhodi, DTMA, and what I am assuming from the way they danced were two 22 year old strippers a high roller fan brought with him to the show to entertain Section 4.


Date: Fri, May 18, 2018, 09:31:27 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

There's a lot of good videos from last night's show in West Palm Beach on YouTube. Donald is very talkative and Carolyn Leonhart is back. I love the new slow intro to Kid Charlemagne.

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2018, 23:53:35 ET
Posted by: Parker, listening to Leonard Cohen

I'm glad nobody in the audience stood up for My Old School. I'm sick to death of that song. It needs to be removed from the setlist.

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2018, 22:58:54 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

Thanks! This is the best setlist of the tour so far. Major Dude, New Frontier, Green Flower Street are back in. It's always a joy when they bring back Don't Take Me Alive. Sure hope they play these songs when I see them on June 1.

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2018, 22:47:50 ET
Posted by: Mr. Fugazi, Service elevator

Don says �Hit it y�all!� and in kicks...

Bodhisattva (what is there to say?)

Band intros by Michael, LaTanya, and John

Black Cow (good GOD Freddie can bring it!)

Peg (Don�s voice was starting to get shot by the end, range was nonexistent but still strong)

My Old School (this was weird � usually this is an encore so everyone is standing, but NO ONE was standing. Great performance though!)

Reeling in the Years (encore following Don saying �I wish my partner could be here�)

Overall maybe my favorite set list of 11 SD shows. No Babylon which I hate live, tight sound outside of a rough start on Green Flower Street.

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2018, 22:15:30 ET
Posted by: Mr. Fugazi, Service elevator

(Also meant to note, Don and Jon H. had a nice session trading fours at the end of TOOM)

On with the setlist...

Kid Charlemagne (totally new intro, after the song Don said �that was neat-o!�)

Any Major Dude Will Tell You (fantastic arrangement! My 10th SD concert plus a DF and Dukes show and haven�t ever seen them play this)

Green Earrings (Herrington sounded especially awesome on this one)

Dirty Work (sung by Danettes as per usual, Michael trumpet solo)

Don�t Take Me Alive (again, very tight arrangement. Heard it before but always a welcome addition to the set list!)

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2018, 21:47:42 ET
Posted by: Mr. Fugazi, Service elevator


Green Flower Street (band dropped like 20bpm from intro to Don�s vocal intro, Don flubbed second verse, song is definitely down a few keys to allow Don to hit high notes)

Hey 19 (Don asked �you know what I mean girls? What�s the stuff we used to drink?�, Jim Pugh solo at the end)

Black Friday (new outro back and forth between Don and Danettes)

Aja (some nice subtle changes in the arrangement, specifically Jim�s piano part)

New Frontier (Don sounded GREAT and band was super tight)

Time out of Mind (again some very subtle instrumentation/orchestration/voicing changes that sound great)

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2018, 20:25:07 ET
Posted by: Lyle, R

Laurel. shutter falls. Laurel yanny. Yanny movies.

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2018, 15:32:47 ET
Posted by: Nose Knows, Peanut Island

There might be a surprise on tonight's setlist at the West Palm Beach show. But please don't tell KD. He doesn't want any spoilers.

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2018, 09:56:37 ET
Posted by: Uranus, Just woke uo

Steely Dan setlist spoilers? LOL

Date: Thurs, May 17, 2018, 05:33:37 ET
Posted by: hoops, in transit

Don Patrol:
It�s actually not a bunch of people who don�t get it. Most of the posts are by the same �anon� who has a problem.

BTW: Nothing wrong with someone avoiding the bluebook or other forms because I don�t wanna know what�s going to be a spoiler, etc.

More to catch up on�

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 23:33:22 ET
Posted by: Napalm, in bed

DF appears to be more animated on this tour because he no longer has to share the profits with Walter. This makes Donald a richer and happier man.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 23:24:31 ET
Posted by: Ethan, On Location

Trying to avoid SD spoilers? That's as futile as going to an America concert hoping to be surprised.

Someone here once pointed to 2003 as the line in the sand. A touring year was the exception and not the rule, they played two sets and had a new album out. When the '06 tour was announced with Mike M you sensed where things might be heading.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 22:36:24 ET
Posted by: Rodie Joe , Heading East

DF and the DB already cashed in . Call it a money grab or whatever you like . They both already got paid up front .The big loser is the promoter . That�s the fool who paid and booked these bands in outdoor arenas . Looks like a train wreck.

DF appears to be more animated on this tour . You really wonder what kind of relationship he had with WB . The way he�s battling with WB wife and moving on without WB. Maybe it was a love hate kinda of like Mick and Keith . It seems from the outside that WB was holding him down . Although they are still playing the same cookie cutter set list .

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 22:18:38 ET
Posted by: Johnny B., Hey Now!

Avoiding the Dandom due to spoilers??? What could we possible spoil? "Oh they switched the placement of Green Earrings and Dirty Work!"

I'm glad this tour isn't selling well. It's a soulless cash grab and nothing more.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 22:16:33 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Of its more famous songs, I'd say "Hey 19" is the most overrated SD song. Walter's comical interludes were a welcome diversion and they are greatly missed.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 18:56:19 ET
Posted by: Boss, Blues Beach

Whatever is correct. Hey 19 is now performed the way it should be played. Walter was making the song a joke.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 17:42:40 ET
Posted by: Bucky, SoCal

Yes. I guess I will attend the show after all. I just broke up with my GF. I need to see Steely Dan to cheer me up.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 17:26:55 ET
Posted by: Whatever,

I agree, the band does sound much better without the noodling.

And I'm sorry, but I think it is pretty hypocritical how everyone talks about how "high-brow" the humor is on the albums, but then WB would come up with some of the most embarrassing, infantile, sexist bullshit shit ever during hey 19 so that the baby boomers would feel "edgy."

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 17:12:32 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

Here's 35 minutes of footage from Steely Dan's recent show on May 14 in Tampa, FL : Pay close attention to Kid Charlemagne. Donald is in good spirits and band sounds hot.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 17:00:32 ET
Posted by: Abu, Irish Michael O

Michael Omartian is listed as an Irishman on the Diahann Carroll 1974 album, where he is credited with the arrangement of I Mean to Shine. Michael (O'Martian), is in fact, Armenian. Perhaps DF and WB liked what they heard there, or more likely they found out about him otherwise, around this same time due to the fact that Michael played keys on Pretzel Logic, Katy Lied, and then played the nice acoustic piano on the title track of Aja. Then, he also played on three DF tunes on The Nightfly. Ms. Carroll sings IMTS in a different key than Barbra, probably to better suit her voice, as many artists do when covering a song. Not bad, this '74 cover, sounds almost "gospel" with the backup singers.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 16:05:45 ET
Posted by: Brinkley, gambling

From what I'm hearing this SD/Doobie Tour is selling very poorly. Expect upgrades if you bought a cheap seat ticket.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 14:38:49 ET
Posted by: Kimchee, Lunchtime

Weak setlist & no Walter? Forget it!

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 13:56:08 ET
Posted by: Danny Mac, IL

Steely Dan needs new blood. Now that Lindsey Buckingham got kicked out of Fleetwood Mac, he might be an interesting person to fill Walter's shoes.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 13:08:13 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl

I get the feeling that some of the people posting lately,they still don't get it.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 13:06:30 ET
Posted by: Lamont, Jacksonville

Avoiding the Blue for set spoilers? As a long time BlueBooker you should know by now that SD isn't going to shuffle up the setlist with rare cuts.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 12:55:17 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

avoiding the Blue for set spoilers, love you all and have a wonderful summer!

(just heard and found Diahann Carroll doing 'I Mean to Shine' for the first time, someone just put it up, I had to share it if someone else hadn't. It really grew on me!)

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 12:34:48 ET
Posted by: Lamont, Jacksonville

I know it sounds cruel and uncalled for, but when I went to see SD on Sunday night I completely forgot that Walter was missing. The band sounds that good. I will deeply miss Walter's uncanny guitar intro to FM though.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 12:10:50 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, Tennessee


Fuck that.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 11:05:38 ET
Posted by: Lamont, Jacksonville

I hate to say it, but Steely Dan really does sound better without Walter. It's tighter and more focused on the music. Now there's no need to take a bathroom break.

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 09:59:41 ET
Posted by: Gene, Cleveland OH

One more thing. Rod Stewart is telling the press that Elton John's farewell tour is "dishonest" and "stinks of selling tickets".

Date: Wed, May 16, 2018, 09:52:16 ET
Posted by: Gene, Cleveland OH

Rodie Joe has his facts wrong. Rod Stewart never said he's calling it quits and retiring. I think Rod is supposed to be releasing a new album in September. I'm not a fan of his but at least this aging rocker is still writing new music and touring.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 21:17:56 ET
Posted by: Scuba Steve, Oregon

If Donald Fagen just wants to give the people what they want to hear as Rodie Joe says, then why doesn't he play Deacon Blues? It's a big favorite with the fans. Yet, it only pops up a few times on each tour. I guess Donald hates it just like Doctor Wu.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 18:17:02 ET
Posted by: Kraven, At Starbucks

Steely Dan fans might not like Peter More's music. It doesn't have the jazzy smooth sheen polish that SD fans love. Sounds a bit too rough.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 17:55:44 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

News alert! Donald Fagen discusses producing Peter More's solo LP. Go to now

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 17:07:25 ET
Posted by: Stanley, Newark NJ

Donald's aim is to sell tickets. Donald thinks that if he plays deep cuts and solo material then people won't attend the shows. Well, I'm not interested in hearing the same songs again just to make Donald's wallet fatter.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 16:57:16 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

Not the most important thing, but I forgot to include in my previous post that last night in Tampa SD began to play Fan It Janet at 9:08 and finished up around 10:50.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 14:32:24 ET
Posted by: Dan Fan, Northern Florida

Daily's Place Amphitheatre in downtown Jacksonville is a smallish venue (5500) and was about 85% full. Ticketmaster (the promoter) slashed ticket prices in half about a week before the show in an obvious attempt to pop ticket sales but it was too little, too late. Despite this, it was an enjoyable evening and the Doobies fans that left during the middle of the Dan set missed the best part of the show. Oh well- their loss.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 13:06:41 ET
Posted by: Rodie Joe, In transit

my 2 cents and captain obvious

Those who follow and post in BB are in the minority. DF is giving the people what they want or at least what DF perceives what they want. If you want to hear the rarities or anything close to that, my advise is save your $ and attend one of the Beacon shows or two. I got spoiled on the Y2K tour. They played rarities such as Boston R, Night by night, Glamour P, DTMA and Royal Scam. (i saw them 4 times of that tour) You may say the last two are not however they don't get any airplay. For better or worse we are stuck with the cookie cutter set list. This will probably be my last time I see whats left of SD. I'm going into this show as a nostalgic closure. I will say my thanks and goodbyes to WB who will be there in spirit along with DF and the rest of the band. I will have a few beers, maybe a little el supremo and salute and thank the boys for playing live. Back in the late 80s you would have never thought that you would ever get a chance to see SD EVER. Fast forward a few years and they have been touring constantly ever since. I have quite a few memories of SD that I will cherish for a lifetime. This is an end of an era. Elton, Rod, Ozzy, Eric C , Paul S on more are all calling it quits.

In conclusion, enjoy this while you can, if we are lucky to be alive in 20 years we can look back and tell the grand kids that we saw SD live in their prime or otherwise

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 12:15:13 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

Overall attendance in the Tampa Amphitheater is a bit difficult to discern. Mainly because when a show doesn't sell well there, the lawn "seat" buyers are upgraded into the fixed seats. I looked at the TM site yesterday for the Tampa show and it appeared the non-lawn seats would be only 40-50 percent filled. Although there were empty seats around me (Section Orchestra 3)when I looked back it seemed to be filled up. We had downpours all day yesterday so I am rather sure the empty seats in my section were no shows because they were sold when I looked online.

My bone to pick with all of this is I bought tickets in the Citibank presale and ended up in a side section for more money than I could have purchased a ticket for yesterday afternoon, in a closer row of the center orchestra section. That may have to do more with TM Platinum seats not selling and/or Doobie Brothers VIP tickets (read expensive in both cases)not selling than anything else.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 10:29:50 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

To all who have seen a show on this tour, what percentage of the seats would you say are occupied? I'm seeing them in West Palm Thursday and looking on TM/LN it seems like only about 40 percent of the seats are sold at this point and its just two days out.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 10:25:55 ET
Posted by: Lockjaw, cleaning my ears with a q-tip

Donald has no reason to go back to the Night Flyers. Playing smaller venues with lower ticket sales would not appeal to Donald at this point.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 08:35:02 ET
Posted by: Angry John, Dallas

Donald is tarnishing the legacy of Steely Dan. I don't want this band to be labeled as a tired oldies road act cranking out the same old hits. Donald seems to have forgotten the artistic creative need of writing new material.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 01:01:13 ET
Posted by: Whatever, florida

Yeah, The Doobies are really outplaying them. I wasn't that big of a fan going into it, but they blew SD off the stage.

Donald needs to forget about Steely Dan and get back with the Night Flyers.

Do 10-20 Steely Dan shows a year. Not this cash grab bullshit.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 01:00:36 ET
Posted by: Ham , San Francisco

Hey! They played Donald Fagen's I.G.Y.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 00:55:58 ET
Posted by: Ripped Jeans, Los Angeles

Many thanks for your review. I always knew The Doobie Brothers could upstage Steely Dan. Glad you had a good time despite Steely Dan's complacent setlist.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 00:19:14 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper�s Son, Live From Tampa

Tampa setlist:
1. Intro-Fan It Janet
2. Black Cow
3. Hey 19 ( Jim P Trombone solo)
4. Black Friday. (New vocal outro?)
5. Aja ( Walt W Sax solo)
6. Time Out Of Mind
7. Rikki Don�t Lose That Number
8. Kid C.
9. I.G.Y.
10. Green Earrings (Roger R Baritone sax solo)
11. Dirty Work (Michael L Trumpet solo)
12. Bodi
13. Babylon Sisters
14. Keep That Same Old Feeling (Band intros handled by Michael L. & Jon H)
15. Peg
16. My Old School
17. Reelin In The Years (Encore)
18. Outro-The Untouchables

Sat in the orchestra section...7 rows back even with the Dannettes. Sound was really good for both acts. Unusual for this venue. Donald seemed to be in good spirits and liked the crowd�s enthusiasm. Overall the crowd spent less time on their feet than the Doobie Brothers, but were very much into SD appreciative of the performance. Last year in the same venue the crowd was not up as much for the Doobies, so I think this was a more lively group.
Jon Herrington was tearing up the solos. Keith Carlock was a force as always. Before the encore, DF acknowledged the absence of Walter �my partner� and thanked everyone for coming out.

Date: Tues, May 15, 2018, 00:04:14 ET
Posted by: Ham , San Francisco

Well, where's the setlist?

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 23:57:22 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper�s Son, Live From Tampa

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 21:38:07 ET
Posted by: Ham , San Francisco

Thanks! Keep those reports coming in!

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 20:59:12 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Live from Tampa

Doobie Brothers opened with 15 songs. Played for 1 hr 15 minutes. Crowd was up and into it.

SD Setlist to follow later tonight.

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 20:24:27 ET
Posted by: Hanes Johnson, San Diego CA

Could Donald be persuaded to reunite The Dukes of September?

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 20:06:21 ET
Posted by: Tugboat, eating

I'm with Johnny B. Steely Dan is now nothing more than a classic rock nostalgia tribute act. Makes me want to hang my head in shame.

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 19:31:43 ET
Posted by: HouDanFan, Houston

Johnny B get out of Mommy�s basement and get those opiates refilled

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 18:53:54 ET
Posted by: Observer, Lat lon

It�s going to be a long summer. It�s about a 50-50 chance something happens along the lines of the night fliers tour and he doesn�t finish it.

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 18:44:04 ET
Posted by: Whatever, Florida

Amen! Bring back the night flyers!

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 18:21:26 ET
Posted by: Johnny B., Hey Now!

What a shock... Steely Dan playing it safe again. The same boring setlists, the same boring people defending whatever these guys do.

Oh wait, it's not "these guys" anymore. Walter's been dead for 6 months and Steely Dan is already cranking out another "Play the standard so the fat baby boomers will dance to them" horseshit they've done for the past 8 years.

Anyone who defends Donald going out with Steely Dan without Walter is a sycophant. This is such a sad way for this all time great band to end. Steely Dan has officially become one of the boring, generic classic rock bands that stayed at the party too long, play the same songs every show, never put out new music, and will replace anyone at the drop of a hat.

A shame.

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 16:52:42 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

The setlists for last night's Steely Dan & The Doobie Brothers show have just been posted on Each band played 15 songs if you exclude SD's intro and outro.

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 16:22:46 ET
Posted by: Sloane, NY

That's a bit uncalled for. Walter Becker was an outstanding guitarist and songwriter. He will be greatly missed.

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 16:09:30 ET
Posted by: Whatever, Florida

Loved the show. They sound better without WB's incessant noodling and embarrassing rants and attempts at singing.

Roll on Donald!

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 16:02:03 ET
Posted by: Lumberjack, Northern California

It's always like this. Steely Dan always plays some deep rare cuts at the beginning of the tour and then it shifts back to the same old routine setlist. Sure glad I only purchased the cheap $20 lawn tix for this show.

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 15:54:52 ET
Posted by: Allie, k60D5lKCf414

Hats off to <a href="">whveoer</a> wrote this up and posted it.

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 15:50:44 ET
Posted by: casual fan, orlando

Re the setlist:

What do people expect? Its a dual-show with the DB, at least some portion of the audience wants to see them as much as they want to see SD. I'd be surprised if this was one where the opener played 45 minutes and SD played closer to 90 minutes, as in the past.

Both at just about an hour and 15 minutes, with stage gear change = 3 hours. That's plenty of value for such a show.

Someone just said 13 songs by SD. The setlists I'm seeing are 16. Years past it was 18-19, so this is no surprise splitting time like they are.

No, no deep cuts but again, why are people surprised? Its a greatest hits nostalgia formula that has been working for the band for over a decade.

Now, I would love to hear Home at Last and Fagen solo stuff. I'm seeing them in West Palm on Thursday night. That will follow tonight's show in Tampa, so with a few days in between I'm hoping they will have worked on something unusual for us if for no other reason than to to do some work up for the Beacon run of album shows. But if not, my expectations are greatest hits and I'm taking three people that haven't seen them before so its fine with me.

A bit worried about the rain, though. We are doing the GA/festival/bring a chair thing. So out in the elements for us. A poncho will be purchased in advance.

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 15:19:36 ET
Posted by: T FAB III, Here, there . . . everywhere

It seems that this will just be the same old thang but with less songs. No WB. Time to just remember that way it was after resuming live performances in 1993 through spring 2017. It was glorious.


Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 14:46:27 ET
Posted by: Speed, FL

I guess Roadie Joe is right. Steely Dan have shortened their setlist to only 13 songs! The Doobie Brothers must have played a full longer set.

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 14:33:32 ET
Posted by: Moe, disappointed

Many thanks. I'm skipping this tour. I have no desire to hear these same songs again.

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 13:59:18 ET
Posted by: chris keller, ormond beach florida

set list for jacksonville,fan it janet ,black cow ,hey nineteen,aja,black friday,time out of mind,green earings,kid charlamagne,ricki dont lose that number,dirty work,bodistava,peg,my old school ,realling in the years,great show but the same set list from the 2015 rockabye tour. home at last was in their to. no josie or show biz kids .nice drive along the coast ,good party supplies ,if you catch my meaning,my 15th steely dan show made sundaynight a wonderfull thing plus another 40 dollar t shirt ,see you at the next florida dan wing ding

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 13:58:20 ET
Posted by: chris keller, ormond beach florida

set list for jacksonville,fan it janet ,black cow ,hey nineteen,aja,black friday,time out of mind,green earings,kid charlamagne,ricki dont lose that number,dirty work,bodistava,peg,my old school ,realling in the years,great show but the same set list from the 2015 rockabye tour. home at last was in their to. no josie or show biz kids .nice drive along the coast ,good party supplies ,if you catch my meaning,my 15th steely dan show made sundaynight a wonderfull thing plus another 40 dollar t shirt ,see you at the next florida dan wing ding

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 11:51:12 ET
Posted by: Roadie Joe, in route

More "juicy gossip" from what my sources say this tour was and is being advertised as DB and SD Co-headlining. In other words they are supposed to rotate who opens first kinda of like what Bad Co and Joe Walsh did. DF said he never agreed to that , therefore, the DB say f it that is the case we are playing a full set to DF dismay. IF true, SD may get a shorter set list then the DB . This is getting good. Lets see what happens next

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 11:16:02 ET
Posted by: Ham , San Francisco

Unfortunately that's not going to happen. Donald made it very clear that touring is the only way to earn a living. Donald thinks recording a new album is too costly and won't sell enough to bring him enough money.

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 10:30:44 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles

My perennial thought when the setlist / venue / tour chatter starts: TAKE A YEAR OFF AND MAKE A RECORD

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 10:26:56 ET
Posted by: Bookkeeper's Son, Florida

Not sure about other barns but the outdoor venue in Tampa they are playing in tonight has a hard 11:00PM curfew. The Foo Fighters played in this shed a few weeks ago....they moved up the start time by 1/2 hour and cut two songs from their setlist to meet the curfew.

Another reason I dislike the choice SD makes in playing this same venue in the last several years.

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 07:30:51 ET
Posted by: stephen, london

hi vincent,
at jones beach, in i think it was 2003, i mentioned to pete fogel about doing the albert hall but he shot it down in flames saying that they'd never fill it.
i always thought it was a good idea but maybe not the albert hall, somewhere smaller but a longer run ala the beacon. i'd travel to paris

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 01:01:21 ET
Posted by: Ripped Jeans, Los Angeles

How do you know, Doc Mu? If the Doobies continue with a shortened setlist then it probably means Donald had an issue with them getting a bigger response from the crowd. We just have to wait and see.

Date: Mon, May 14, 2018, 00:23:06 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

I'd take RJ's rumors with a grain of salt.

Given that Walnut Creek is outside, setlists were probably shorter to complete entertainment before the midnight hour. Family neighborhoods nearby who got to sleep with de shade on de light, and there are probably ordinances.

Date: Sun, May 13, 2018, 22:40:31 ET
Posted by: Verse Flubber, Houston TX

Where's the Florida Steely Dan BlueBookers at? I wanna know what they played tonight.

Date: Sun, May 13, 2018, 21:03:07 ET
Posted by: Adelphia, 2q58tAmz

If I were a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle, now I'd say "Knagbuoaw, dude!"

Date: Sun, May 13, 2018, 17:38:08 ET
Posted by: Doobie Dan, upststate

The crowd looks very subdued in that video. The Doobie Brothers probably stole the show earlier.

Date: Sun, May 13, 2018, 15:36:21 ET
Posted by: Slim, hanging out

Donald probably did. He also appears to be gaining weight.

Date: Sun, May 13, 2018, 13:34:12 ET
Posted by: Goucho, Jeffrey Baxter

Did Donald flub the second verse ?

Date: Sun, May 13, 2018, 12:08:14 ET
Posted by: Black Friday Water Cow, Old miss

Jeff Baxter is also pulling a double shift on this tour.

Date: Sun, May 13, 2018, 11:51:59 ET
Posted by: Ken, CT

By asking the DB to shorten their set, DF was probably just looking out for Mike McDonald since he has to perform with both bands. It will be hard enough for his voice to hold up for the whole tour with the Doobies doing an extended set.

Date: Sun, May 13, 2018, 11:11:18 ET
Posted by: Ripped Jeans, Los Angeles

Tom Johnston of the Doobie Brothers says "It's time for new stuff again. Recording keeps you involved in what's going on. You have to keep creating new stuff to retain that validity". The Doobies are working on a new album of new original material. Sure wish Donald would do the same.

Date: Sun, May 13, 2018, 10:38:20 ET
Posted by: Anson, Tampa, FL

I'm not surprised. The Doobie Brothers are a very lively and energetic act. I've seen them numerous times and they always encourage the crowd to get up and dance. Steely Dan are a bit more subtle. Donald always tells the audience to sit back and relax.

Date: Sun, May 13, 2018, 10:23:10 ET
Posted by: Vincent, UK

There is an ongoing legal thing which may way well compromise DF in terms of some of his artistic decisions. That said, (and I am sure he wiould be very happy with the advice), he could easily fill theatres as "Donald Fagen playing his own music plus SD choice cuts".
If he alternated concert tour years so rotated through USA, Europe, Austral/asia, he would do fine. He wouldn't over-saturate markets (the USA has had SD tours almost every year for a while so no wonder the appeal is becoming more selective). In Europe, SD were an albums band, so the set wouldn't have to be the hits to keep folks interested, which probably bores him crapless. There has been one gig in Europe since 2010 - a 20k seater, they sold out in a day - and this was not for the Doobies Bros, which were just a lucky (and entertaining) support. He could easily do a couple of nights at the royal Albert Hall, a much more dignified concert hall than the god-awful enormodomes.

Date: Sun, May 13, 2018, 10:02:15 ET
Posted by: Roadie Joe, On tour

From what my sources told me , DF was livid that apprently the DB stole the show the 1st night . He told the DB to shorten their set list so they reluctantly obliged . As a result , DF changed the set list to accommodate the DB fans and the common Joe SD fans by playing more of the so called hits

Date: Sat, May 12, 2018, 22:58:19 ET
Posted by: Updraught, Philly Area

Carolyn is performing with Catherine Russell & LaTanya Hall in Switzerland on May 13. She will be back on tour with Steely Dan the following week.

Date: Sat, May 12, 2018, 22:22:54 ET
Posted by: Simon, CT

How come Carolyn Leonhart isn't with Steely Dan anymore?

Date: Sat, May 12, 2018, 20:15:13 ET
Posted by: Ham , San Francisco

I checked the Doobie Brothers setlist at and noticed they shortened their set to only 12 songs last night.

Date: Sat, May 12, 2018, 13:39:46 ET
Posted by: YourNotMyKind, NYC

I see these early concerts are being held in 20,000 capacity arenas. Can these 2 nostalgic bands fill up these venues? Anyone know the attendance to the shows so far? Hard to believe that they would be over 1/2 to 2/3 full. Much prefer smaller venues fwiw.

Date: Sat, May 12, 2018, 11:30:38 ET
Posted by: Harry, US

A woman at work who recently got into classic rock was perusing $20 SD/Doobie Bros. tickets online, lamenting that the local sheds they are playing would probably be too hot in July. I told her that the "Steely Dan guy" admits he's only touring because it's the only way to make money anymore. Within reason, DF's going to do with the set list whatever he feels is going to help him pull it off. If it means scrapping the solo stuff after the first concert, so be it. Opening the tour with a solo song may have been some kind of legal tactic with regards to the lawsuit. If I go to any shows this year, and it's been my strong inclination to pass on them the past few years, it will be a game day decision and I'm not going to fret the song selection.

Date: Sat, May 12, 2018, 10:52:59 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

It's starting to look bad. Even New Frontier and Green Flower Street were deleted from the setlist last night.

Date: Sat, May 12, 2018, 10:48:27 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, here

The reviewer's remarks that there was a "... lack of a well-deserved tribute for Becker ...that Fagen went with solo efforts"... off the mark, imo.

When SD played in Wallingford, CT back in October 2017 -- just weeks after Walter's passing -- Donald (A very private person, as has been noted) sang "Book Of Liars," noting first that his singing on that number didn't sound as good as well as his deceased partner's had. As they played the video showed pictures of Walter Becker and his bandmates and friends and family over the years, ending with a moving photo of his daughter casting his ashes to sea in Hawaii.

Donald said what he wanted to do. Now he wants to keep playing.

He has a brilliant catalog that includes classic Steely Dan songs and enough good solo material to break up the setlist.

Date: Sat, May 12, 2018, 10:11:22 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

Major Dude is out. Rikki and Home at Last were played last night.

Date: Sat, May 12, 2018, 01:25:54 ET
Posted by: Bruce T., FL

I only liked the Doobie Brothers when Michael McDonald joined the band. Why should I sit on my ass until the Doobies finish their 17 song set? That's why I dislike double headliner shows.

Date: Fri, May 11, 2018, 23:32:42 ET
Posted by: JP, NJ

Dangentially, Thoeden Janes used to work for a Hackensack based newspaper. Watch him trying to sound soooo articulate.

Date: Fri, May 11, 2018, 21:30:29 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, the near future

Oh! But hoping Any Major Dude stays in rotation!

Date: Fri, May 11, 2018, 21:28:11 ET
Posted by: Security Joan, SMH at Charlotte Observer

Doc Mu, El Supremo, the "reviewer" of the Charlotte show's extended critique of what he seemed to think was Donald's lack of "enough grieving" was obnoxious and insensitive. This was reinforced when I tweeted this today, and instead of addressing the issue, he started to troll me --- by calling me a troll! (After perusing his Twitter feed, he has a pattern of posting insults about anyone who disagrees with a "review" that begins with "I had the honor of being trolled by...."

Anyway, following was the gist of MY two cents to this ass:
People express grief in different ways, often not visible. Have you never known an introvert? Has it never occurred to you that, after the loss of his "brother...partner" [as the reviewer quoted DF saying] Fagen is doing his best to keep himself together while speaking of Becker onstage?... your critique of his not "expressing grief" adequately during the show was beyond insensitive. Fagen doesn't owe you, or *any* voyeur, some public display of despair. Your comments, particularly as part of an alleged review, are crass & completely out of line.

Endgame: He showed what a class act he was by calling me a troll and making snide posts about me. Where, oh where, do these people come from??

Date: Fri, May 11, 2018, 20:32:21 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Calling Tampa SD Fans - Looking for 2 tickets for this Monday's show. I have 2 tickets for the 8/26 Sunday Jeff Beck/Paul Rodgers of "Bad Company"/Ann Wilson of "Heart" at the same venue, the Ampitheatre. I also have a VIP parking pass for that show.
Anyone with 2 extra tickets who would like to trade, please text me at 813-504-0190 and I will get back to you. Best, Steve.

Date: Fri, May 11, 2018, 19:55:30 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

I checked and Steely Dan does play an intro but it's listed as unknown. The outro is The Untouchables theme.

The Doobies Brothers setlist is very good if you are a Doobies fan. They play 17 songs and it's filled with rarities and new songs. I think it's better than Steely Dan's set.

Date: Fri, May 11, 2018, 17:55:52 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Any intro or outro, or did extended Doobies set squeeze them out?

Date: Fri, May 11, 2018, 17:09:39 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

The critic simply expected a nostalgia show:

"If there was a complaint to be made � aside from, perhaps, the lack of a well-deserved tribute for Becker � it was that Fagen went with solo efforts like �Green Flower Street� and �New Frontier� over The Dan standards like �Do It Again� and �Rikki Don�t Lose That Number,� both Top-10 early-�70s hits that seem to beg to be included in what�s essentially a nostalgia show."

I thought the setlist was pretty good, especially squeezed into a double-header. Would love to see a 21st Century Dan or Fagen song included, but that's wishful thinking.

A critic grabs us.
And says without a smile.
The work seduces us with light.
Eviva laughs and we step out.
Into the blue-white night.

Date: Fri, May 11, 2018, 16:05:24 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

Nothing weird about it in my opinion. It fits in with Donald's personality. Donald is a very private man. He's not going to get real emotional in front of an audience.

Date: Fri, May 11, 2018, 14:41:23 ET
Posted by: El supremo, Ciceyo

Last nights review

Very weird about WB imho


Date: Fri, May 11, 2018, 07:27:32 ET
Posted by: Nate, Bogs of Jersey

Not a bad set list. Pretty average, but cool to see Any Major Dude and New Frontier.

Date: Fri, May 11, 2018, 07:27:31 ET
Posted by: Nate, Bogs of Jersey

Not a bad set list. Pretty average, but cool to see Any Major Dude and New Frontier.

Date: Fri, May 11, 2018, 07:10:59 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Great to see "Any Major Dude..." back in rotation.

Date: Fri, May 11, 2018, 06:03:59 ET
Posted by: Daniel, Lambert

How was intro to kid c different?

Date: Thurs, May 10, 2018, 23:31:44 ET
Posted by: RP, NC

4th Dan show. �06, �13, �16, and �18.
Donald was very upbeat tonight and mentioned he was a little off without Walter about 2/3 of the way in tonight. I thought it would be a lot weirder without Walter there but it was a great show, and once it got going I didn�t think about that so much.

Set list.
Green Flower Street
Hey Nineteen
Black Friday
New Frontier
Time Out of Mind
Kid Charlemagne
Any Major Dude Will Tell You
Green Earrings
Dirty Work
Babylon Sisters
Band intros
Black Cow
My Old School
Reelin in the Years (encore)

Really good show. Hope it�s not the last.

Date: Thurs, May 10, 2018, 22:01:58 ET
Posted by: Doc B, Setlists R Us, First nite

So far...

Opens with Greenflower Street
Hey 19
Black Friday
New Frontier
Time Out of Mind
Kid C with new intro...

To be continued....

Date: Thurs, May 10, 2018, 15:55:11 ET
Posted by: Ham, San Francisco

Really looking forward to see what SD plays on opening night tonight. Somebody PLEASE post the setlist as quickly as possible. Thanks!

Date: Wed, May 09, 2018, 20:17:37 ET
Posted by: Terry A., Valley Stream, NY

Hi I am a major collector of live Steely Dan shows and have hundreds to trade. Can everyone attending a show this tour make an attempt to record it? Even audio on an iPhone sounds good. Please contact me to trade: terry.atshul AT YAHOO DOT COM

Date: Wed, May 09, 2018, 19:01:51 ET
Posted by: Vin, etc.


I thought so too.

Date: Wed, May 09, 2018, 14:52:07 ET
Posted by: Jon, @his yellow stripe

Thinking I wish my Dad had built a dugout.

Date: Wed, May 09, 2018, 08:01:16 ET
Posted by: Vin, etc

What's the first thing Dan related that this image conjures up? I'm curious if anybody thinks the same thing I did.

Date: Tues, May 08, 2018, 15:59:47 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Sunny Indy

Cheers to the tour kicking off this week! The fine folks in downtown Nashville better plan on some volume on the 20th, cuz The Dan and The Doobs are gonna rock Music City:

Why not slip Springtime and Three Sisters Shaking into the set list that night?

Date: Tues, May 08, 2018, 14:51:32 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, Harrisburg PA

Never mind Bob, I was trolling a spammer, thankfully Hoops took it down. # my bad

Date: Tues, May 08, 2018, 11:22:13 ET
Posted by: Bob, Indy


Date: Tues, May 08, 2018, 10:13:24 ET
Posted by: DYLYNFAN, Harrisburg PA

I didn't realize Andy Murray's tennis career was over, nice to see he found work in another line.

Date: Fri, May 04, 2018, 23:13:36 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Abu: That's a gem. Slinky tune that pulses and swings. I REALLY like the nice organic live sounding tracking. Mark Kelso's drumming is fantastic and mic'd just right.

The older I get, the more I'm through with buzz. Give me crack musicians jamming!

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2018, 22:33:14 ET
Posted by: Paul Smith,

The Doobie Brothers open for Donald Fagen and the Steely Dan Orchestra.

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2018, 19:00:12 ET
Posted by: RP , NC

Anyone know which band goes on first suring the tour kicking off next week?

Date: Thurs, May 03, 2018, 02:01:48 ET
Posted by: Abu, Rikki Didn't Lose This Number

This "number" is an early Monkey House tune written by Don Breithaupt, the original having appeared on MH's debut album Welcome to the Club, in 1992. It was covered four years later on Rikki Rumball's Strange Girl CD in 1996. Nice early Don B.-written song that shows hints of his much more recent Headquarters and Left precision and quality. While we await the new one from DB's hand, this particular song gets some updated treatment by Mr. Breithaupt, as he and one Rich Dodson were co-producers, with the former also doing background vocals. It is called We Never Knew Each Other.

Date: Wed, May 02, 2018, 22:19:24 ET
Posted by: E.C, A

Not sure what to make of this book but it's largely accessible.

Date: Sun, April 29, 2018, 19:23:00 ET
Posted by: Abu, At the Junction of Monkey House & Manhattan Transfer

Thanks, Don B for the update! Great to hear things are rolling along well for the new one. Can't wait! Is there an official, or un-official title yet? It will be nice to hear the great Manhattan Transfer's amazing harmony vocals on a MH tune. Nice toe-tapping song you co-wrote with Alan Paul on the latest MT album. It is called Swing Balboa (Down on Riverside). Speaking of Discogs, album credits below:

Date: Sun, April 29, 2018, 18:35:44 ET
Posted by: re:discog, n/a

Is Starz Vanderlocket a real person?

Date: Sat, April 28, 2018, 18:46:42 ET
Posted by: Jon, @his yellow stripe

Discogs is great site and a nifty place to get original as well as re-issue liner note verbiage, lyrics, and some artwork is here:

Date: Sat, April 28, 2018, 15:22:12 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY

Discogs is actually a really nice site. I use it to catalog my vinyl collection and occasionally purchase albums too.

Date: Sat, April 28, 2018, 14:59:11 ET
Posted by: Glen Tippet,

Thank you Doc Mu. I didn't know about Discogs.
I appreciate it. :)

Date: Sat, April 28, 2018, 14:53:50 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,


In the time it took to type your snide reply, you could have easily looked it up on the Dicogs website.

Believe me, at this time of the semester, I'm damn tired of having to do folks homework for them

You're welcome. Have a good day.

Date: Sat, April 28, 2018, 14:26:24 ET
Posted by: Glen Tippet,

Doc Mu -

I know that They're listed on the liner notes.

I need a link to those liner notes. I only have Gaucho on vinyl and it's buried somewhere. (Plz don't bust ass about if I were a true SD fan I'd have it on CD/SACD.) Lol

Date: Sat, April 28, 2018, 14:14:45 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

Discogs lists track by track musicians as listed in the liner notes for Aja, Gaucho, Nightfly, Kama, etc.

Date: Sat, April 28, 2018, 10:56:56 ET
Posted by: Glen Tippet,

If anyone could provide the track-by-track musician credits for Gaucho, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks

Date: Fri, April 27, 2018, 15:30:36 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

Don, it's a good thing that you didn't write a ditty about a Steely Dan obsessed know-it-all. There would be fistfights on the blue clamoring for credit.

Date: Fri, April 27, 2018, 09:40:20 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles

Hey Abu � Thanks for asking! The new Monkey House album is well past the halfway point, production-wise. It'll be a late 2018 or early 2019 release on ALMA/Universal. I tracked the horn section and percussion a couple of weeks ago. Guest-wise, the Manhattan Transfer sing the choruses on "The Jazz Life," a ditty about a Miles-obsessed know-it-all. Drew Zingg and Michael Leonhart will be back. I expect to be mixing by late June. Sorry for the radio silence; I've had my head down working on the damn thing! In other news: I have a track on the new Manhattan Transfer album (The Junction); Jay Graydon and I have a track on the about-to-drop Urs Wiesendanger album (Breakfast in Paris); and my Monkey House song "It's Already Dark in New York" will be included alongside desert island music like "Pixeleen" and "Junkie Girl" on the forthcoming WB multi-CD compilation California Groove IV. �DB

Date: Thurs, April 26, 2018, 00:17:07 ET
Posted by: Doctor Mu,

Only tangentially Dan related, since I consider Donald Fagen and Neil Finn probably the two greatest songwriters alive, but WOW Fleetwood Mac booting out diva Lindsey Buckingham and inserting Mike Campbell and Kiwi Neil Finn into the lineup, not just for the yearly tour, but as a recording unit and essentially brand new band. It's a stunner.

We will probably hear more of the Peter Green and Welch era music, and the rejuvenated FM are expected to write and eventually record new stuff. Neil's restless and his solo and Crowded House band stuff has grown increasingly more eclectic, complex, and indy.

I'm still holding out hope Donald will record a new album with the Nightflyers after the summer tour.

Date: Wed, April 25, 2018, 10:55:56 ET
Posted by: Re: couchies,

Love it!

Date: Mon, April 23, 2018, 23:00:13 ET
Posted by: Steeeve, @ work

Buy Steely Dan / Doobie Bros. tix on from April 30 - May 8th for only $20- including fees! Oh yeah, one can get twenty dollar tickets to a bunch of other concerts too...

Date: Mon, April 23, 2018, 18:48:11 ET
Posted by: Danny, HARRISBURG PA

Another vote for Cubano Chant and the incomparable Cornelius Bumpus.

Date: Mon, April 23, 2018, 17:50:36 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

That's a very interesting answer, Nicholas. I never would have thought of that, but its a great song that makes you anticipate what is about to occur...most notably Mr. Fagen and the Danettes sashaying on stage.

Date: Mon, April 23, 2018, 16:45:16 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos

The opening strains of Cubano Chant, when they play it, is a highlight of a SD concert for me. That song sets the mood for the night better than any other, IMO. Okay, better than anything other than a three-song instrumental medley of deep SD tracks.

Date: Mon, April 23, 2018, 13:39:30 ET
Posted by: steelydave, My stereo is four-way.

Thanks for the support for our little 5.1 surround sound endeavour, both from the people who posted here, and those who took the time to sign the petition. Just to answer a couple of points raised here - we didn't specify in the petition what format we'd like to see the 5.1 remixes released as, only that we'd prefer high resolution of some sort. As far as I know, there are no DVD-Audio authoring houses left in the US, and Sony owns the only remaining SACD pressing plant - I can't remember the last time UMG put out a mass-market SACD, but it was probably 10 years ago.

Today, BluRay is the format of choice for hi-rez audio (it can hold up to 7.1 channels of 192kHz/24bit audio and has the capacity to hold about 10x as much music as a DVD-Audio disc) but UMG have put out some 5.1 on DVD-Video in recent years, most notably the excellent series of Jethro Tull CD + DVD special editions.

As for aging listeners not being able to appreciate the benefits of high-resolution audio, the mad ain thrust of this petition is the surround sound aspect, which anyone can appreciate even with diminished hearing, unless they only have one ear. High-rez audio isn't just about reproducing ultra-high dog-whistle frequencies though -
some fly-by-night engineer called Roger Nichols believed that it yielded noticable improvements in bass and midrange (including the magical 5kHz, which is where the magic in vocals tends to be) so even someone with 20 or 30 years of concert volume hearing damage isn't immune from noticing the benefits. You don't have to be a Michelin-starred chef to be able to taste the difference between flank steak and filet mignon, right?

In the last few years UMG have done some big 'super deluxe' box sets of albums that included a BluRay with a 5.1 mix (Soundgarden, Temple of the Dog, etc.) and my pipe-iest of pipe dreams is that they could do that for Pretzel Logic at least. I know there are a ton of reasons something like that wouldn't/couldn't happen (including Donald immediately saying no) but there's a wealth of material from that era that would be great for a release like that. Obviously there's the original stereo mix of the album, and we believe Scheiner finished the 5.1 remix, but there's also the quadraphonic mix, Dinky's soundboards from that tour, and then who knows what kind of studio demos and outtakes - This All Too Mobile Home at least? Maybe demos of the songs they gave to Thomas Jefferson Kaye, Diamond Head, John Kay, etc? Nice to dream about, anyway..

I think the petition is going to run for another week or so - we've done pretty well in the first week, but every extra signature strengthens our mandate before we pass it on. So if you've got a moment, please add your name to the list, it'll only take 20 seconds of your time.

Also, if Hoops (or anyone else here) thinks this might be tweet-worthy, getting a little traction on twitter would really help expand our visibility.

Date: Mon, April 23, 2018, 09:31:23 ET
Posted by: Chris , Nh

The live ending of Aja. (Actually, pretty much all of Aja. I�ll never get tired of hearing it live.)

Black Cow�s coda is up there, too.

Date: Mon, April 23, 2018, 07:11:05 ET
Posted by: JP, W

Along those lines, I like when they play Time out of Mind and use the bridge as the coda.

Date: Mon, April 23, 2018, 05:48:20 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL

Here's a question that anyone can answer. Just curious.
Do you find yourself having a favorite recurring favorite moment
when you attend a "Steely Dan" show ?
For me, my favorite moment above all the others is when they play "Black Cow". The last couple of minutes when the horns are all playing together. You hear this beautiful convergence of sound and it gives me this super joyful feeling.
Its that song and those horns that take me to a special place.
How about any of you ???

Date: Mon, April 23, 2018, 00:06:07 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga

I�ve still got a bit of hearing above 5kHz that I�d like to obliterate, and, like they used to say, �Midrange is where the music is.�

-Walter Becker

Date: Sun, April 22, 2018, 15:05:35 ET
Posted by: Yeah, but...

Aren't most people who would be interested in SACD releases of SD albums past the age where their hearing can still discern the increased resolution?

Date: Fri, April 20, 2018, 19:40:22 ET
Posted by: Abu, Monkey see, Monkey Don?

Hey Don B... why the radio silence on the new one? Two years ago, during the Springtime, you were providing some nice previews of Left. So far, you have been real quiet about the new Monkey House release. We are hungering and thirsting for any tidbits! Is that famous musician you befriended on FB a while back going to have a credit, perhaps?

Date: Fri, April 20, 2018, 07:46:25 ET
Posted by: Kenny, U

Oh fuck me. They are playing Oct 13.

Date: Fri, April 20, 2018, 07:40:48 ET
Posted by: Kenny, U

I heard a radio ad for the Hard Rock Casino which is opening in June in Atlantic City. I wasn't really paying attention until Steely Dan was mentioned as one of the acts that were scheduled to play. Nothing on either party's website, but but have some holes in early July when SD will be in New Jersey.

Date: Fri, April 20, 2018, 03:42:34 ET
Posted by: Walter Becker Media (@wbeckermedia), Twitter

Couchies (Demo) by Becker/Klein from the Circus Money sessions.

Date: Thurs, April 19, 2018, 21:02:28 ET
Posted by: Lee, Tampa

Steelydave, what about DVD-audio?

Date: Thurs, April 19, 2018, 10:53:23 ET
Posted by: Matthew, Kerns


I never had the resources to afford a good surround sound system, but I did pick up the surround releases of SD/DF where available. Signed your petition, and would gladly snatch up releases of SD back catalog in surround sound.

Don't let not having anything to say stop you from saying something...God knows I never have.

Date: Thurs, April 19, 2018, 08:12:05 ET
Posted by: Jon, @his yellow stripe

Dave, I do not fall into the listener category you are addressing, but still wanted to acknowledge the tip of your hat to FZ in the

Date: Wed, April 18, 2018, 15:12:37 ET
Posted by: steelydave, My stereo is four-way.

Hello chaps,

Long time WJAZ listener, first time caller...

I've been lurking here on and off for more than a decade, but with the generally high level of discourse (witch doctor testimonials aside) I never felt like I had anything particularly unique to offer that hadn't been said earlier and better by someone else here.

That is, until now. I'm a more regular contributor over at the forums, a message board devoted to all things surround sound. If you're a Dan-fan and surround sound listener at all, you probably have one or more of Elliot Scheiner's fantastic 5.1 remixes of either Gaucho, TvN or EMG, or Donald Fagen's first three solo albums and know how mind-blowingly good they are.

In 2004, Universal listed the first six Steely Dan albums (CBAT through Aja) as multichannel SACDs "coming soon" on their website, but they ended their support for surround sound music in early 2005 and the whole project was scrapped. Recently a small group of us from QuadraphonicQuad have had some contact with someone close to the band who wants to see this project re-started, and can put the case forward on our behalf to someone at UMG who's in a position to investigate making it happen. Obviously with any kind of project like this there are a million hurdles to overcome but it's our understanding via our contact that a show of support from potential purchasers might help get the ball rolling.

Scheiner has said in interviews circa 2006 that the 5.1 mix for Pretzel Logic at the very least was completed, so if we can help get that released at the very least, I'd consider it a major win simply based on how good his 5.1 remix of Gaucho is, and anything beyond that would be a bonus.

To that end, we've set up a petition on where you can add your voice to this, and show UMG that you'd be interested in buying any newly-released SD 5.1 remixes. The link is here:

If you know any other surround-friendly Dan-fans, please feel free to pass the link on. If anyone can suggest any other places that I might post this to raise awareness I'd greatly appreciate it - fan communities seem to have fragmented since the rise of social media in the last few years and I don't know where everyone "lives" these days. I'm also not really twitter-savvy, so if anyone could tweet the link along with a #steelydan hashtag (or whatever you need to do to get it noticed) it would be a massive help. And if anyone wants to get in touch privately, you can find me at under the handle I used for this post.

Date: Tues, April 17, 2018, 23:30:25 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles

Gadd is at his Gaddiest on "Stand by the Seawall"!

Date: Mon, April 16, 2018, 12:07:45 ET
Posted by: EC, NY

I for one am really looking forward to hearing something new from the brilliant CM sessions (and/or any other unheard WB material that may come our way in the future).

Let's consider ourselves lucky that Walter's family is actually making these gems available.

Date: Mon, April 16, 2018, 12:07:40 ET
Posted by: EC, NY

I for one am really looking forward to hearing something new from the brilliant CM sessions (and/or any other unheard WB material that may come our way in the future).

Let's consider ourselves lucky that Walter's family is actually making these gems available.

Date: Mon, April 16, 2018, 11:56:00 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh

Like Matt said, WB wanted all of this to be heard. A carefully curated pipeline of releases, with context, and a place to discuss them, helps make this a reality, along with announcements and a slight teaser or two.

Date: Mon, April 16, 2018, 10:40:32 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Still excited

The opportunity to hear some unreleased bits from a near-perfect record like Circus Money should be cause for worldwide celebrations - mass gatherings of smiling, happy, grateful people in every city square around the globe - and not an invitation to add to the already-oversized archive of bickering & complaining here on The Blue. No??

Date: Mon, April 16, 2018, 07:08:18 ET
Posted by: Jenn, Montreal

What teasing? Aside from asking this question, which Matt posted a few valid reasons to ask, what teasing are you referring to? There was one Easter Egg, on Easter, that was given to everyone else less than a week later.

We�re you that upset when did the guess the tracks for Two Against Nature? Was that too much teasing, and not enough instant gratification? If you�re not having fun on the Walter Becker Media page, then why not just go to their YouTube page, where all the tracks exist without preamble or what not?

Date: Mon, April 16, 2018, 01:37:29 ET
Posted by: Big Trev, Barcelona

Nice try Matt but I don't buy it, I have to agree 100% with The Dean. I really like the basic concept of the WB Media Project and really appreciate the music that's being posted, but I find the teasing element childish. I could do without the 'questions' and the 'Easter Eggs'. Regarding the lack of DF demos, actually there have been a few, Big News, New York and Confide In Me come to mind. But I want more and would hate to have to wait for the DF media Project ..... I don't even want to think about that.

Date: Sun, April 15, 2018, 19:21:47 ET
Posted by: Matt, Chattanooga, Tennessee


I think the point of the question specifically is gauging interest in a process of being allowed to hear a demo with a period of time before you hear the actual track, perhaps simulating the progression from demo to finished track by WB and the musicians involved. I don't think its just a matter of whipping an already frenzied audience.

Steely Dan never released demo tracks, though some have leaked surreptitiously. Donald doesn't not, or at least has not, released demo tracks. Walter released a demo track to Bob is Not Your Uncle Anymore on an international digital LP, that not many of us had access to before the Walter Back Media project posted it to YouTube a few weeks ago. So hearing a demo version first and then being given a "waiting period" before we hear the finished (or nearly finished it sounds like in this case) product is indeed unexplored territory. It is taking a chance.

I get the essence of what you're saying, which is that OF COURSE we all want EVERYTHING we can possibly get...but that isn't, sadly, all of us. There are those SD fans that for whatever reason still haven't heard of the WBMedia project, but might have done a web search and ended up here for the first time. There are lurkers who might be drawn out. There are people who, by virtue of their response to said question, might feel more invested in the music when it comes out.

Remember that the whole project is founded on a promise made by a wife to a husband, to share something with us, free of obligation or cost on our parts, but at some expense and much time on the part of said grieving party. Even if the only reason to ask the question is to remind yourself that there are indeed people out there that are excited for what comes next, that appreciate the hard work you're doing, and the lasting legacy of the loved one you've just lost...well that seems to me to be totally valid reasons to ask the question.

I'm looking forward to whatever comes next.

Date: Sun, April 15, 2018, 17:37:55 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach

"moderator" teases us to check out the new Walt site because there is a question there. The question I see on that site is "Any interest in something like this?" with respect to posting an unreleased song from Circus Money. Is that a serious question? Do you really need me to say "Yes, Yes, Yes"? I think you know that anyone coming here, or to your new site would say the same.

So why the fake research approach? I don't mean to sound like a dick, but it comes across as a bit less than an honest, upfront approach. And if you are actually not allowed on "on into parts of SD internet [sic] perhaps the lack of forthrightness is part of the reason. I'm just guessing, since I have no background on this, whatsoever.

Why not just come and tell us you are posting a new unreleased song? Has there been an issue with something like that?

Date: Sun, April 15, 2018, 11:48:31 ET
Posted by: Gino F., Excited

Circus Money is in my top ten albums of all time. As cool as the recent unreleased gems from the new WB Media site have been, an unreleased Circus Money song in both demo and finished form would top everything for me. Let's hear it soon!

Date: Sun, April 15, 2018, 02:17:33 ET
Posted by: moderator,

question for you all on the home page of Please pass it on into parts of SD internet where I am not allowed. Thanks

Date: Fri, April 13, 2018, 20:52:05 ET
Posted by: Chris , CT

I assume most have seen this, but just in case...

Date: Thurs, April 12, 2018, 19:07:38 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,

KD: Pretty scorching here with MM in the late 90s... 4:42 for the solo. Vocally in top form here, too.

The audience seems a little tame. guess they're waiting for "Sailing."

That reminds me - look how the crowd in Austin responds to Kennedy's solo on Weather in My Head.

Date: Thurs, April 12, 2018, 16:15:05 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

Cross is a killer player, he tried to do his best Royal Scam impersonation at the end of Ride Like the Wind and came damn close, on thin little Strat.

Too bad fuckin Omartian had to go and do his thing

Date: Thurs, April 12, 2018, 16:03:56 ET
Posted by: Tony, NJ

Pete Fogel had Chris Cross at the Bitter End, although I don't think it was with Keith. He did Pretzel Logic and it was on the internet. Chris does a great job. As someone has said before, his talents are very under-appreciated.

I seem to remember some story that Donald and Walter were interested in his playing around 1979. Chris was blown away. Recordings never came to pass, or so it seems. Then again, who knows what will surface next from Walter Becker Archive Project.

Date: Thurs, April 12, 2018, 15:42:52 ET
Posted by: Lucky Henry, Philly

Looking forward to seeing Christopher Cross tomorrow night near Philly. Keith is playing drums. Anyone else from here attending?

CC states he was �mentored� by Joni Mitchell. I didn�t realize they were tgat close.

Hoping CC and Keith do Pretzel Logic. 🥨


Date: Thurs, April 12, 2018, 09:43:35 ET
Posted by: Carlson, NYC

Huh. So McKay made a cranky comment on the FB page about the Shearer tune (which I'd shared a link for - the first post I'd made), I replied that he should loosen up a bit, and he booted me from the group. Thin skin much LOL?

Date: Thurs, April 12, 2018, 08:16:52 ET
Posted by: Tim,

Between the early summer tour and the fall New York dates, looks like no tour by the Nightflyers this year. I hope I�m wrong.

Date: Sat, April 07, 2018, 19:31:12 ET
Posted by: Seafoam Mean, Bodega bay via queens

Hey thanks, guys. appreciate it . See y�all at the beacon !

Date: Sat, April 07, 2018, 10:28:56 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago

�Willie don�t lose that lumber�? Oy.

Date: Fri, April 06, 2018, 18:57:22 ET
Posted by: CJB, Seafoam gets it

Quality post, A+ tone capture, thanks so much. A reminder of why I hang around.

Date: Fri, April 06, 2018, 13:38:53 ET
Posted by: KD, asdf

That shot of Shearer/Smalls on the album cover, that's the funniest shit I've seen in a long time, oh my lord:

Date: Fri, April 06, 2018, 12:48:55 ET
Posted by: Jenny Lake, Grand Teton, Wyoming

Someone was commenting they respected the music too much to enjoy the egg hunt.

Anyway, here's Donald Fagen singing "Willie Don't Lose That Lumber," spoofing Rikki Don't Lose That Number to sing about erectile disfunction.

Date: Fri, April 06, 2018, 11:37:41 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos


Date: Fri, April 06, 2018, 05:43:08 ET
Posted by: Seafoam Mean, bodega bay via queens

"how do you feel about playing with the doobie brothers?"
"those guys" he chewed, pointing a slice of pizza "aren't the doobies"
Carlock stared at the stage wistfully as the doobie brothers ran "jesus is just alright" for their soundcheck.
"I wanted to bring the duel drummer thing back to the band... would have been cool to bring a percussionist in too" he pushed the pizza box toward me and nodded but I declined "anyway, sometime around 2007 I started getting pretty alienated from the guys, and then when the John Mayer and ToTo stuff came up they sort of shunned me. Becker and Fagen were the only ones who had my back. well, them and the ghost of Cornelius Bumpus"
"you heard me correctly, and he's on stage right now jamming with the D's"
"you're claiming that you not only communicate or at least see..."
"ok communicate with the dead"
"no, I hang out sometimes with cornelius bumpus' ghost"
"and you?"
"jam-" he spit bits of pizza "Freddie sees him too" he pointed to the stage side where a content Freddie Washington gazed at an empty space behind the three drum kits. "Freddie!" Carlock shouted "FREDDIE!!!" and waved, motioning toward the stage "pretty good tonight, right? haha hah..." he turned to me and his eyes were silver for a moment then returned to their natural blue or whatever.

Date: Wed, April 04, 2018, 07:26:17 ET
Posted by: Vin, xa

Something Don & Walt knew about along time ago

Date: Tues, April 03, 2018, 14:04:54 ET
Posted by: Walter Becker Media,

Here's the thing about eggs...they eventually hatch:

Date: Tues, April 03, 2018, 11:17:32 ET
Posted by: Wade, Texas

It took me longer than some, but I found the egg over on the Walter Becker Media. Don't want to give it away, but it was a hell of a surprise to me. Nice to see that some of what's lost to time can be recovered. Thanks to Walter's wife for sharing. Turning what must be your own grief into our joy is generous and kind.

Date: Sun, April 01, 2018, 19:45:51 ET
Posted by: CJB, Been there, heard that

I can be one grumpy MFer too, but both of today's posts are totally worth everyone's attention & poking-around. Anyone grousing about being made to crawl a half-kilometer over a track of broken glass needs to chill and enjoy that sweet studio take of "Three Sisters," freely posted & publicly accessible without trickery of any kind.

Date: Sun, April 01, 2018, 11:19:40 ET
Posted by: Grumpy, MF

I respect the music to much for it to be promoted through Easter Eggs and "treats."

Date: Sun, April 01, 2018, 03:14:31 ET
Posted by: Walter Becker Media,

We dropped something new for you, and we might have hidden an egg in the tall grass. Keep your wide eyes open wide, cats & kittens. This one is special.

Date: Sat, March 31, 2018, 08:02:04 ET
Posted by: Cold Porter redux IV, Guilford

Mu: I love your compilation...I distinctly remember an interview with Jeff....circa '81 where he stated that the 'Dan had essentially squashed about 4 albums of material!! circa '80 just to be rid of we can hope some more has might have been aninterview with Denny Somach at WYSP '-)

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