2020 Posts Archive
Date: Fri, January 01, 2021, 14:47:16 ET
Posted by: Mock Turtle,
A case could be made for 2vN being peak Dan. Massive hype and anticipation, huge grammy win, R&R HoF, great tour with awesome diverse setlist. The boys were mentally and physically at their prime. The website was updated consistently with amazing writing and other content. Few would argue 2vN was their best album, but it was very listenable at the time and has aged very well, I'd say.
Date: Thurs, December 31, 2020, 20:58:31 ET
Posted by: Mizarian, 2021
Happy new years to all the Dandom people!
Date: Thurs, December 31, 2020, 20:55:48 ET
Posted by: The Pizza Guy, the Steely Dan Directory
dear snobbish private collectors:
go fuck yourself!
signed, the people who actually care about releasing these unheard gems to the public (aka the Directory)
Date: Thurs, December 31, 2020, 20:52:21 ET
Posted by: frog, RIP
rip MF DOOM
"Gas Drawls" isn't the best song of Operation: Doomsday but it's damn good
Date: Thurs, December 31, 2020, 20:04:09 ET
Posted by: The Pizza Guy, TRS is the greatest SD album
"TAN is peak Steely Dan Hill"
*laughs in The Royal Scam*
Date: Thurs, December 31, 2020, 18:17:56 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
The latest edition of the Dandom Digest (Vol. 28, No. 9) was sent out a few minutes ago and you should have it within an hour of this post. It covers December 17-31, 2020. (The previous Dandom Digest covered September 4/5-December 16, 2020.) At any rate, if you don't see it in your mailbox, let me know (see below) or check out the full text below.
The following are the subjects/headlines of the items in the latest newsletter:
TONIGHT! RING IN THE NEW YEAR with Catherine Russell!
New Walter Becker Outtake: "Black Dog"
Lost "11 Tracks of Whack" Liner Notes
New Rickie Lee Jones Memoir
"Binky Listens To Steely Dan"
Cindy Mizelle: The RS Interview
Jim Keltner on Jeff Porcaro
SD Shows in 2021...or 2022?
Steely Dan Fan (Post-)Holiday Shopping Guide
Calling All Current SD Orchestra Members & Alumns
...followed by PRETZEL LOGIC
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DANDOM DIGEST
December 17-31, 2020
Yr. 28, No. 9
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IN THIS DANDOM DIGEST
TONIGHT! RING IN THE NEW YEAR with Catherine Russell!
New Walter Becker Outtake: "Black Dog"
Lost "11 Tracks of Whack" Liner Notes
New Rickie Lee Jones Memoir
"Binky Listens To Steely Dan"
Cindy Mizelle: The RS Interview
Jim Keltner on Jeff Porcaro
SD Shows in 2021...or 2022?
Steely Dan Fan Holiday Shopping Guide
Calling All Current SD Orchestra Members & Alumns
Followed by
PRETZEL LOGIC
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Subject: TONIGHT! RING IN THE NEW YEAR with Catherine Russell!
Ring in the new year with Catherine Russell and her set, part of NPR "Toast of the Nation." 
Thursday December 31, 2020. Toast of The Nation is NPR’s annual holiday special that rings in the New Year with a jazz party! We are honored to be included this year. Catherine Russell Trio was recorded on October 1, 2020, kicking off a Thursday night concert series “Live from Dizzy’s Club” at Jazz at Lincoln Center, and will now be broadcast over 200+ NPR stations on New Year’s Eve. If you can’t catch us over the radio, you can read all about it and listen to the concert here.
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/28/948032453/toast-of-the-nation-2021
Friday January 8, 2021 at 6PM PT. Streaming for 24 hours. Join Catherine and other guests:
"A Bowie Celebration - The David Bowie Alumni Experience...'Just For One Day'!"
Tickets and more information:
https://rollinglivestudios.com/collections/bowie
Finally, Catherine is part of SFJAZZ Center’s Fridays at Five Virtual Concert Series
Friday January 22, 2021 at 5pm PT (8pm ET) Catherine Russell - vocals, Matt Munisteri - guitar, Mark Shane - piano, Tal Ronen - bass, Mark McLean - drums!
More info at https://www.sfjazz.org/fridaysatfive/
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Subject: New Walter Becker Outtake: "Black Dog"
"Black dog is barkin' all night long..."
Link to outtake:
https://youtu.be/B3ttW0TqScY
From Walter Becker Media-- http://www.walterbeckermedia.com
Check it out.
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Subject: Lost "11 Tracks of Whack" Liner Notes
Dusted off liner notes by The Walter himself...from WalterBeckerMedia.com
Check it out.
https://www.walterbeckermedia.com/forum/rarities-unreleased/lost-whack-liner-notes
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Subject: New Rickie Lee Jones Memoir
Rickie Lee Jones' memoir is due this spring. Bound to have some stories about Donald and especially Walter.
"Last Chance Texaco: Chronicles of an American Troubadour"
by Rickie Lee Jones
Amazon Link:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0802127126/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5aK7Fb5QGYGWE?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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Subject: "Binky Listens To Steely Dan"
"(Steely Dan Music) is très avante garde, Binky..."
Binky has a life changing experience on Steely Dan.
https://youtu.be/JmJAgj9tc5M
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Subject: Cindy Mizelle: The RS Interview
Learn a few new things about one of the amazing Danettes!
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/cindy-mizelle-singer-interview-bruce-springsteen-rolling-stones-mariah-carey-1102369/
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Subject: Jim Keltner on Jeff Porcaro
This came out back in May, but we missed it back then. A good listen.
https://youtu.be/M3HpNnHBSbE
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Subject: SD Shows in 2021...or 2022?
This story gives cred to the idea that those Steely Dan concert dates postponed exactly 52 weeks may wind up getting postponed at least a total of 104 weeks. But you never know...maybe some late winter 2022 dates in Vegas?
Some disclaimers:
--Yes, no direct mention of Steely Dan, and it is behind a pay wall--if you want, reload a few times and read real fast. If that is a non-starter, I understand if you drive by.
--It's strictly my opinion that we won't see Steely Dan shows until 2022. I have no inside track on information.
https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/features/when-live-music-return-2021-covid-1106719
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Subject: Steely Dan Fan (Post-) Holiday Shopping Guide
Now that Christmas has passed and the New Year is upon us, it's time for the Steely Dan Fan Holiday Shopping Guide--because, after all, it's time to pleasure yourself with the Steely Dan gifts no one else remembered to get for you.
Here are some suggestions:
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Jim Beard/Jon Herington
"Chunks and Chairknobs"
Buy at: http://www.jonherington.com/store.html
A Great Interview with Jim & Jon: "How did this come about?"
https://youtu.be/euklbIfq414
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Jon Herington
Jon Herington's Arrangements for Guitar
http://www.jonherington.com/store.html
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Keith Carlock
Buy All Kinds of Stuff including "IN THE JAM: NYC Funk" 10 Multi-Track Video Jams--You Control The Mix" with Carlock/Jenkins/Buono
http://keithcarlock.com/buy/
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LaTanya Hall
"Say Yes"
Buy at: http://latanyahall.com/album/la-tanya-hall-say-yes-coming-november-8th-2019/
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ay Leonhart with Tomoko Ohno & Vito Lesczak
"Joy"
Buy at: https://jayleonhartbass.bandcamp.com/album/joy
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Michael Leonhart Orchestra
Several titles, including "Suite Extracts, Vol. 1"
Buy at: https://michaelleonhart.bandcamp.com/
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Roger Rosenberg
"Baritonality"
Buy at: https://www.amazon.com/Baritonality-Roger-Rosenberg/dp/B002F3BPF4
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Catherine Russell
Pretty much her entire CATalogue including her latest, the Grammy-nominated
"Alone Together"
Buy at: http://www.catherinerussell.net/listen.php
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Walt Weiskopf European Quartet
Latest releases including "Introspections" and "Worldwide"
Buy at:
https://waltweiskopf.com/product/european-quartet-worldwide/
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Monkey House (featuring Don Breithaupt)
"Friday" (featuring a cover of "Book of Liars")
Buy at http://www.almarecords.com/releases/#26 or Amazon.com
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Chicago featuring the song writing of Don Breithaupt
"Chicago Christmas 2019"
Features the track, "All Over The World" co-written by MonkeyH House's Don Breithaupt
Buy at: Target, iTunes, Amazon, etc.
More: https://chicagotheband.com/js_albums/chicago-christmas/
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Don Breithaupt
"33-1/3: AJA"
Not only one of the best books about Steely Dan, also by far the best of any of the books in the 33-1/3 series.
Aja book. Amazon link:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0826427839/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_rRJ7Fb8KAMYG8
Here's an excerpt of Don's interview with Donald Fagen for the book:
"Dick LaPalm knew Wayne Shorter from Weather Report. He vouched for us. He said, 'These are nice guys, they seem to like a lot of the old jazz records, they talk about Jackie McLean!' Wayne said okay, and came in. We did a couple of takes, and wanted to look at it some more. He said, 'Give me a minute.' He went over to the piano with the chart, and he was over there for a good half hour messing with scales. Then he came back and did three or four takes, and they were all great." -- Donald Fagen
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ANTHONY ROBUSTELLI
"Steely Dan FAQ: All That's Left to Know About This Elusive Band"
Amazon Link:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1495025128/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_2iL7FbTEJDZP4
Apologies for anything that may have been left off. Let us know by emailing jjmckay@me.com
Thank you and "Happy New Year!"
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Date: Wed, December 30, 2020, 20:16:44 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Ring in the new year with Catherine Russell on NPR's "Toast of the Nation."
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/28/948032453/toast-of-the-nation-2021
Date: Wed, December 30, 2020, 20:11:27 ET
Posted by: Forwarded by your favorite Steely Dan fan., -
A couple of videos with Elliot Randall performing Steely Dan classics. Maybe you have already seen them… But here they are again. There are actually several in the series.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Awn2uF5pp4
https://youtu.be/uPuruyk_wjk
Date: Sun, December 27, 2020, 15:12:08 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Dirk - and wrong/different key...makes those accidentals hard to maneuver.
Date: Sat, December 26, 2020, 22:31:03 ET
Posted by: bitter kids, Cash Only Island
warning: he’s from that discord server that are self righteous about giving rarities to the public. do not interact
Date: Sat, December 26, 2020, 19:04:28 ET
Posted by: amphibian, in the dirt
Okay
Date: Sat, December 26, 2020, 16:41:10 ET
Posted by: frog, helplessly lost
i know most of you boomers on the BlueBook are gonna point and laugh at me, and most are clueless, but this is my last option. i'm asking for anybody here: there was a bootleg from July 6, 1996 or 6 July 1996 that was a pretty uncommon but circulating show in 2018. due to carelessness or something, the website was shut down and nobody seems to have posted copies of the show anywhere useful. so, please, put away your snark and sarcasm for two seconds and give a man hope. willing to trade.
mightycoffeepro@gmail.com
Date: Fri, December 25, 2020, 18:19:08 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. It's Happy Hour on Christmas Day
Wishing all of Dandom the very best during the holidays.
May your days be full of great music and good health.
Date: Fri, December 25, 2020, 04:55:58 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Merry Christmas to you Hoops!!
And to all the greater Dandom!!
Stay safe and secure this holiday season and we'll see you down the road.
And as always
Peace (on Earth)
🎄
Date: Fri, December 25, 2020, 03:01:01 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Merry Christmas, Everyone! 🎅🤶☃️🎄
Date: Thurs, December 24, 2020, 11:47:29 ET
Posted by: mr. mahler, TAN is peak Steely Dan Hill
Merry Christmas Eve everyone! All those covers suck, and that Danwave album sucks!
Date: Wed, December 23, 2020, 10:35:37 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Dirk:
I might like her voice, but she needs to tell her kids to stop practicing violin, cello, and oboe in the background when she's recording. (I don't think having coffee is going to help me wake up and like this.)
Date: Tues, December 22, 2020, 08:12:14 ET
Posted by: my, $.02
I like the vocals.
Date: Mon, December 21, 2020, 17:43:19 ET
Posted by: Dirk, somewhere in the western world
New album of SD covers :
https://verdantsongs.com/dime-dancing/
Sorry, don't get it ... too artsy-fartsy for me.
What do you think ?
Date: Mon, December 21, 2020, 16:23:07 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
Sorry but those Citypop/vaporwave err 'remixes' sound terrible. Just weird slowed down versions of the original tracks. Might be a problem on my side? Shame because after a recent post on here I really like City Pop (Makoto Matsushita etc)
Date: Sun, December 20, 2020, 21:01:37 ET
Posted by: The Pizza Guy, the TV on the cover to Daft Punk's acclaimed 2005 album "Human After All"
Introducing DANWAVE, an album that explores the concept of what Steely Dan might have been if they were influenced by Japanese city pop and funk records from the 90s
https://freakyape.bandcamp.com/album/-
Date: Sun, December 20, 2020, 20:56:40 ET
Posted by: frog, D A N W A V E
hi me and my friend Barney made a vaporwave steely dan album
Date: Wed, December 16, 2020, 19:12:28 ET
Posted by: JamesWokki, EMG>CBAT
You know they don’t give a damn about anybody else.
Wait no that’s not right
Date: Wed, December 16, 2020, 19:10:34 ET
Posted by: frog, i found sun mountain
People under the age of 18 creating media such as a film, a stage production, or a song, and you do understand that they do not care about anybody but themselves.
Date: Wed, December 16, 2020, 19:08:46 ET
Posted by: JamesWokki, EMG>CBAT
ye
Date: Wed, December 16, 2020, 16:05:12 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Chilly Indy
Season's Greetings!
If anyone can heat things up, it's Ms. Cindy Mizelle.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/cindy-mizelle-singer-interview-bruce-springsteen-rolling-stones-mariah-carey-1102369/
Date: Mon, December 14, 2020, 15:42:47 ET
Posted by: Dr. Hünd, Hanging Valley Wall, CO
Hate to complain about 2020 because so many have it way worse than I. But it sucks that the last show I booked which actually happened was in February. I have only dealt w/ national original artists in the 20 years I've been a mostly behind the scenes consultant in the music industry which had allowed me to also book shows @ my pleasing. The only two tribute bands I ever worked with were the best Neil Diamond tribute band in the world and Citizen Dan.
Only got to book the Dan tribute band once for two nights Labor Day 2019. The same casino/hotel was already sold out for our scheduled special Memorial Weekend 2020 gigs, Steely Dan Retrospective 1972-76 and 1977-2012 featured over two nights. Maybe next year?
Here is the full Royal Scam (my album choice) night on youtube. No, that's not me introducing the band. Yes, I would advise watching this via your tv screen w/ surround sound. I even had them include HERE AT THE WESTERN WORLD for The Royal Scam. Next night, the band's full album choice, Aja....which you can also find on youtube.
Enjoy, Happy Holidays, Hünd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRZeno0kp6M
CITIZEN DAN @ GRAND Z CENTRAL CITY, CO 8/30/19
“THE ROYAL SCAM AND MORE”
SET 1
KID CHARLEMAGNE
CAVES OF ALTAMIRA
DON’T TAKE ME ALIVE
SIGN IN STRANGER
THE FEZ
GREEN EARRINGS
HAITIAN DIVORCE
EVERYTHING YOU DID
THE ROYAL SCAM
HERE AT THE WESTERN WORLD
FM
HOME AT LAST
DR WU/SPACE ODDITY
PRETZEL LOGIC/BREAKDOWN
NIGHT BY NIGHT
SET 2
DIRTY WORK
BLACK FRIDAY
GREEN FLOWER STREET
THE BOSTON RAG
BLACK COW
BABYLON SISTERS
HEY NINETEEN
WEATHER IN MY HEAD
GODWHACKER
JOSIE
CONFIDE IN ME
MY OLD SCHOOL
PEG
RIKKI
Date: Sat, December 12, 2020, 16:00:50 ET
Posted by: Jon, on location
Is that Tom Scott and Pete Christlieb on saxes? (2:19)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izRb8mHi9Sk
Date: Sat, December 12, 2020, 13:09:43 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Sakka Joweda could have been a monster song on CBAT. Just needs a guitar solo at 2:40 and fade out about 4 min.
Substitute for the rather pedestrian Change of the Guard.
https://youtu.be/YUpajU7BdUw
50th Anniversary Edition bonus track?
...and you can hear Gary Katz at the end.
Date: Sat, December 12, 2020, 13:01:55 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Citizen Cane!
Kid C outtakes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS2caJ4xldo
From the keyboard 2:20-, it seems like they had some of LC's first solo guitar figures already worked out ahead of time.
Date: Sat, December 12, 2020, 06:23:17 ET
Posted by: Louis, UK
Can't argue with his comments!
Also, he seems to have a brace of some kind on his left leg - probably why he needs the stick. Hope he's alright - seems in good health otherwise!
Date: Fri, December 11, 2020, 20:57:47 ET
Posted by: (Not so) Pretzel, Logic
If you were going to put money on anyone in the band eventually needing a cane, it would have to be on Donald.
Date: Fri, December 11, 2020, 18:29:33 ET
Posted by: Doug, Rhode Island
https://youtu.be/sYsdtHqvliU
Fagen uses a cane now?
Date: Thurs, December 10, 2020, 19:40:49 ET
Posted by: Gil, hhhh
Written and directed by the son of Kevin Kline and Phoebe Cates. Maybe mom and/or dad is an SD fan?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8174412/
Date: Mon, December 07, 2020, 14:19:27 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Who Needs Words has that Porcaro/Purdie shuffle and production that's somewhere between Jay Graydon for Al Jarreau (Breaking Away, Jarreau) and The Nightfly. Early 80s production on a late 70s vibe. Before David Foster went on to destroy Chicago and R&B/jazz/pop.
Date: Mon, December 07, 2020, 14:04:06 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
A nice Fagen/Miss Marlene/Monkey House shuffle and decent chord changes in this new Ditty from Young Gun Silver Fox with the pen and vocals of Andy Platts.
https://youtu.be/_J-XXrwYIjg
Very late 70s.
Date: Sun, December 06, 2020, 16:44:51 ET
Posted by: frog, donald fagman
You think Donald Fagen is secretly a catboy?
Date: Sun, December 06, 2020, 13:44:59 ET
Posted by: don, Kelly
Is the discord server down?
Date: Thurs, December 03, 2020, 21:37:47 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
Chris, that's the first I'm seeing of that special. Some interesting folks taking part. And this is complete speculation, but I'm guessing Don will play a keyboard of some sort.
Thanks for the heads up.
Date: Thurs, December 03, 2020, 11:08:59 ET
Posted by: chris, nh
Anyone know what Fagen is doing at this?
https://nugs.tv/live-webcasts/5,1401/Harry-Shearer-and-Judith-Owen-12-2020-A-Very-Virtual-Christmas-Without-Tears-New-Orleans-LA.html
Date: Sun, November 29, 2020, 21:03:40 ET
Posted by: Updraught, Philly Area
The Steely Dan book on the shelf is Brian Sweet's.
Date: Sun, November 29, 2020, 19:52:43 ET
Posted by: Chad, R
Any idea what the "Steely Dan" book is on the shelf?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqIXOO5ZWmM
Date: Fri, November 27, 2020, 21:18:22 ET
Posted by: New Fronteir, Cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27S2BSbn_eg
Date: Thurs, November 26, 2020, 22:23:27 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
A Happy Thanksgiving to all the American Dandom. Stay safe, be well!
Peace
Date: Thurs, November 26, 2020, 21:40:31 ET
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Date: Wed, November 25, 2020, 19:25:02 ET
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Date: Wed, November 25, 2020, 19:21:03 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,
For the coup de gras:
We did two takes, and after the second one, he put on his overcoat, and he walked in the control room and said to everyone, "Well fellas, that's it!"
Date: Wed, November 25, 2020, 19:18:32 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, live @ nowhere
Updated notes from Steve Khan on recording Gaucho.
Highlights: "Dog Food!"
Live from Nowhere chord tabs
First Second Arrangement drummer: Marotta (not Porcaro, Gadd, Greene)
Heartbreak: "it is incredible!!! But, it's just too hard to sing for me!"
Session dates - December 22nd, 1978 @ A&R Studios, 799 7th Ave.
December 23rd "Second Arrangement"
December 27th "I Can't Write Home About You"
December 28th "Time Out of Mind"
December 29th "Babylon Sisters"
December 30th "Kulee Baba"
http://www.stevekhan.com/gaucho_steelydan_reflections.htm
Date: Wed, November 25, 2020, 18:57:17 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,
Walter liked to name drop Kind of Blue, but he was usually listening to In a Silent Way on the side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHesqaMhh34
Date: Wed, November 25, 2020, 18:17:52 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Croz with Michael Leonhart. Tonight 8 PM ET/7 PM CT.
https://bit.ly/LIVEwithDavidCrosby
Date: Mon, November 23, 2020, 13:49:55 ET
Posted by: Dira, C
Jerry Marotta doing an SD drum cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu1R0reNMuU
Date: Mon, November 23, 2020, 11:44:57 ET
Posted by: chris, nh
Thanks CJB, that looks very cool - only during a once-in-a-lifetime global pandemic would all of those guys be available at the same time.
Date: Sun, November 22, 2020, 21:49:50 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
This may be worth attending, if everyone can quit fighting long enough to register
https://berklee.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_Mfo3OpOARm64afYJEab74A
Date: Sat, November 21, 2020, 10:23:07 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles
Forty years ago this morning, it was very cold and clear in Kingston, Ontario, where I was doing my undergraduate degree in English at Queen's University. But I wasn't feeling the chill. I had only one thought: RELEASE DAY. I was waiting at the door of the tiny Sam the Record Man franchise on Princess Street when its doors opened. I watched as they pulled my copy of Gaucho out of a cardboard box — there was no price on it yet, and the truth is I would have paid any price — and rang it in. I skipped the two lectures I had that day and played the album at least six times through my trusty Sennheiser headphones, astonished to discover that the followup to Aja was in the same musical league as its predecessor. Feels like yesterday.
Date: Fri, November 20, 2020, 21:59:58 ET
Posted by: reeling, in
there was a really good BBC documentary link posted here in 2018, a Steely Dan feature that had a recent Gary Katz interview. Can't find it upon a search, anyone remember this?
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2020, 15:19:18 ET
Posted by: Bernard, Burlington, VT
The top one-tenth of the top 1% of Steely Dan fans now own 90% of the highly sought after reels. We need to redistribute the wealth so that the 99% can hear "The Rolling Man" and "Heartbreak Souvenir".
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2020, 15:11:14 ET
Posted by: TheRealPlastic, Soul Ram in her hand
Sure, not ripping it gives it "value" but not the good type of value. I define good value as someone wanting to own the item because they really enjoy it, bad value is someone wanting to own it to hear it.
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2020, 15:11:10 ET
Posted by: TheRealPlastic, Soul Ram in her hand
Sure, not ripping it gives it "value" but not the good type of value. I define good value as someone wanting to own the item because they really enjoy it, bad value is someone wanting to own it to hear it.
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2020, 15:06:42 ET
Posted by: Schoolyard Superman, Fed up
Absolutely. We spend good money to have that stuff, then punk kids like you are on your high horse and just devalue it? Grow up, and pick up a book about economics. This is the real world, not everything’s meant to be shared.
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2020, 15:03:03 ET
Posted by: TheRealPlastic, Soul Ram in her hand
You're just my Heartbreak Souvenir
Oh baby won't you come near
whisper in my ear
There's nothing to fear
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2020, 14:59:28 ET
Posted by: Pink Floyd, Up Yours and a Half
Despicable behavior? I spend money, chump change sure, on a reel that I might as well have made myself along side Walter and Donald, and you expect me to just hand it over to the likes as yourself? And have you drive the value down to nothing by uploading it to that You-Tubes account, leaving me with a useless piece of crap reel? Of course I've had ones disintegrate in front of me, had to throw a (Rolling Guy? Rolling something I can't remember) out. Shame, it was pretty good song too. I was going to have it digitized too but I couldn't be bothered LOL!!
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2020, 14:48:49 ET
Posted by: TheRealPlastic, Soul Ram in her hand
No matter how much you discourage it you have to realize that sharing is the most beneficial thing you can do for the community. I don't understand and probably never will understand those greedy people who buy a reel full of rare material and hoard it for themselves. despicable behavior if you ask me
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2020, 14:48:45 ET
Posted by: TheRealPlastic, Soul Ram in her hand
No matter how much you discourage it you have to realize that sharing is the most beneficial thing you can do for the community. I don't understand and probably never will understand those greedy people who buy a reel full of rare material and hoard it for themselves. despicable behavior if you ask me
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2020, 14:43:53 ET
Posted by: amphio, out of here
idiot
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2020, 14:36:17 ET
Posted by: Kek, Lek
Don't go onto the Dandom FB page, it's full of retired racist past their prime boomers ;)
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2020, 14:24:43 ET
Posted by: amphio, Deacon Blows
bunch of racist punk kids in that discord
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2020, 14:22:18 ET
Posted by: TheRealPlastic, Soul Ram in her hand
Could we delete the post asking to delete the Discord invite please, it makes you look like a real spaz.
Date: Thurs, November 19, 2020, 11:41:04 ET
Posted by: wtf, wtf
Could we delete the discord post, please?
You're supposed to keep those hush-hush, and now we've got a spaz out here linking to it.
Date: Wed, November 18, 2020, 22:45:51 ET
Posted by: TheRealPlastic, Soul Ram in her hand
Steely Dan discord server devoted to sharing and talking about rarities, also contains a lot of general discussion
https://discord.gg/UZ2dmfKT4c
Date: Wed, November 18, 2020, 14:06:05 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
Things are inevitably pretty quiet around here on the SD/DF front but one of the things that always keeps me checking in is (are?) the various recommendations for music that we may not have heard before or overlooked, or even forgotten about!. Really enjoyed the Norah Jones at Ronnie Scott's gig. I really love a good jazz trio these days. Thanks Doc!
Date: Tues, November 17, 2020, 22:43:33 ET
Posted by: Theo, F
https://twitter.com/center4inquiry/status/1328719230091603970?s=21
Date: Tues, November 17, 2020, 05:47:43 ET
Posted by: popegreg , Still Home At Last
Nice, mellow cover of “Deacon Blues” by Indie Rock legends Bill Callahan and Bonnie “Prince” Billy -
https://pitchfork.com/news/bill-callahan-and-bonnie-prince-billy-cover-steely-dans-deacon-blues-listen/
Date: Mon, November 16, 2020, 22:40:12 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
became (2nd because)
Date: Mon, November 16, 2020, 22:39:28 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Norah Jones released a jazz record that slipped under the radar a few years ago. The great Brian Blade on drums with Chris Thomas filling out the trio. Limited overdubs. Live with strings and keyboards as needed.
Return to roots, meaning pre-Come Away with Me, the kind of accidental pop album, because Norah's friend Jesse Harris wrote top top shelf songs she demoed, which because that Grammy winning record.
Day Breaks - it's a very good album that showcases Jones' piano chops heard by many outside the first album and TV concerts on Marian McPartland's Piano Jazz series, just weeks before Donald and Walter made an appearance on Piano Jazz IIRC.
I hear a little of those Walter jazzy blues figures on Flipside, recorded live at Ronnie Scotts in London.
Enjoy.
https://youtu.be/A4xSumIINCg
Date: Mon, November 16, 2020, 15:49:01 ET
Posted by: chris , nh
I caught it at some point last year. It was fairly disappointing to be honest. Boilerplate questions. He also tried to get Fagen to sing something and failed.
Date: Fri, November 13, 2020, 13:31:42 ET
Posted by: Mock Turtle,
https://www.ktlo.com/2019/10/11/watch-donald-fagen-play-steely-dan-classic-with-paul-shaffer-on-new-episode-of-shaffers-axs-tv-series/
Did anyone catch this interview from a year ago? It looks interesting but I don't recall hearing about it at the time.
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2020, 22:56:09 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Thanks for sharing that, Don.
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2020, 19:06:09 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. It's Happy Hour
Don, great story. Thanks for sharing.
Ben Jammin, thanks for the link. Terrific.
Date: Thurs, November 12, 2020, 10:32:34 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles
Random reminiscence: It was spring 1993, and the music director of a high-wattage Toronto FM station that was playing two Monkey House tracks at the time contacted me to ask if I knew there was a new Donald Fagen single on the way. I knew, of course — I was, after all, a Metal Leg subscriber — and I asked, "Do you have it already?" He said he did, but absolutely could not burn me a copy. Sensing my disappointment, he invited me to come to the station and listen. It was coming up on twelve years since The Nightfly, and the station was no more than ten minutes from where I was working that day, so I said, "I'll be right over!" We waited for a news break, and [let's call him Wayne] played Tomorrow's Girls for me twice. I remember the warm rush of familiarity/freshness, the receptors in my brain reeling from the sound: CODE RED! CODE RED! NEW DONALD FAGEN MUSIC! I thanked Wayne from the bottom of my heart, and went back to the studio, temporarily sated. And *that* is the story of how I got to hear Tomorrow's Girls two weeks early.
Date: Tues, November 10, 2020, 10:51:44 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Indy-Lovin' some sunshine
These Tiny Desk Concerts are hip, and my neighbors in The DanDom will like this one featuring Snarky Puppy's lead, plus Chris Potter, Kurt Rosenwinkel, and drummer Weedie Braimah from the amazing Nth Power.
A Salute to all of the Veterans tomorrow! You are loved and appreciated!
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/27/927847035/groundup-family-dinner-tiny-desk-home-concert?fbclid=IwAR1c2Sr0EutUsbn-arPrI_w-BpjPB1-faDaeMbuqRYoXV5Lu08yhhGBZ0Fw&t=1604940856665
Date: Tues, November 10, 2020, 08:17:43 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Napoleon, that's funny. I'm very disappointed in myself that I didn't think of it first. I can piggyback a little, though.
We'll move up to Manhattan
And distance from our friends
Drive to the coast, alone in the car again
One day we'll eat out, at a restaurant, but 'til then
Try to hang on, Vaccine.
Date: Tues, November 10, 2020, 07:41:51 ET
Posted by: Napoleon, UK
Try to hang on... Vacciiiiine
Date: Sun, November 08, 2020, 19:40:43 ET
Posted by: Michael,
Not sure if this has been posted here before (it was uploaded Feb 27th) but here's the only live performance of Almost Gothic that SD ever did. My favorite track from TvN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq2-vYfc6ZM
I'm sorry, this is funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0u_JlK8JhI
Date: Sun, November 08, 2020, 12:50:02 ET
Posted by: What is, Sad
RIP Alex Trabec. Many Jeopardy questions on SD over the years, even an entire board on the subject once.
Date: Fri, November 06, 2020, 19:01:09 ET
Posted by: ghost of the SD Web Drone, political hell
for a small ransom taste of political fun (from the late sd.com) see this memo posted during the time of the Bill Clinton impeachment....
https://sdarchive.com/heycraig.html
The entire memo is genius and is worth revisiting-- if only just to remind us what we've all lost.
For those who don't care about that, here's the explicitly "political" section:
"... we have devised a compromise plan which will allow all of the parties in this noxious political foodfight to stand down with their dignities intact - ha ha ha - and we are confident that, if this plan is given a fair hearing, the impeachment debacle will be over faster than you can say "Vancouver bear carving." Here's our plan:
The impeachment trial of William Jefferson Clinton will be adjourned immediately, in exchange for the following considerations:
a) William Clinton shall hereby, for the remainder of his term in office, forgo the use of the title "President Bill Clinton" or "President Clinton." Instead, he will be referred to as "Bitchmaster Bill Clinton" or, simply, "Bitchmaster Bill" or "The Bitchmaster".
b) In deference to the crucial role he has played in the impeachment saga, Congressman Henry Hyde, a "bitchmaster" in his own right, shall be known hereafter as "Captain Kangaroo."
c) Messrs Becker and Fagen shall graciously accept an invitation to perform at the post-impeachment bacchanal at the White House, and additionally shall agree to delay publication of their historic diary of the impeachment process, provisionally entitled "Bitchmaster Bill Clinton versus the Howdy Doodies".
That should clear the way for us, I daresay. Can you have Irving call Jerry to forward The Plan to the big guys in D.C.? thanks. "
Date: Fri, November 06, 2020, 11:21:47 ET
Posted by: Chuck, Here
If the ice cube is made of something highly volatile, I could certainly see it combusting. I simply mean that Donald and Walter have a very different way of seeing things while also being resigned to reality. In the end, it's what makes them so funny.
Date: Fri, November 06, 2020, 11:20:08 ET
Posted by: Chuck, Here
I missed hearing Donald and Walter's commentary on the elections this year. I remember in 2008 where they had a very smart and funny discussion of why they prefer Obama. It's funny when right-leaning Steely Dan fans think Donald and Walter are right wingers. I always perceive them as being radical centrists.
Date: Fri, November 06, 2020, 10:29:54 ET
Posted by: lol, lol
"radical centrist."
Like an ice cube, but on fire.
Those things TOTALLY exist.
Date: Fri, November 06, 2020, 10:26:31 ET
Posted by: Chuck, Here
I missed hearing Donald and Walter's commentary on the elections this year. I remember in 2008 where they had a very smart and funny discussion of why they prefer Obama. It's funny when right-leaning Steely Dan fans think Donald and Walter are right wingers. I always perceive them as being radical centrists.
Date: Fri, October 30, 2020, 19:05:16 ET
Posted by: Joey, PA
Congrats to Donald's niece.
https://chip.unc.edu/emilypfaff-earns-phd-in-hi/
Date: Wed, October 28, 2020, 21:01:15 ET
Posted by: Joe M, CT
Many thanks CJB...
Date: Wed, October 28, 2020, 20:55:07 ET
Posted by: Joe, Murtha
Dean, thanks so much for that! Fantastic... I was blown away when they played it at The Beacon. Ran into Jon Herington at The Amsterdam Tavern after the show and we just looked at each other, shook hands and said "Wooden Ships"? Are you kidding me?? What a band, what a night - like so many other great nights over the years. I was transported back in time...
Date: Sat, October 24, 2020, 23:17:25 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
Mu,
CLB deserves all the credit here. Not sure why, but there was no need for me to sign into dropbox. And I doubt I was already signed in, but I suppose it is possible.
Date: Sat, October 24, 2020, 17:32:37 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Dean, Fantastic soundboard recording. Well worth diging out my Dropbox PW.
Date: Tues, October 20, 2020, 11:11:48 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
CJB,
Thanks, that was great. I had to go to Instagram and hit the link, but I found the error in the URl you posted. This should work:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f31ch53dqw9vg1s/Wooden%20Ships%20[MP3].mp3?dl=0
Date: Mon, October 19, 2020, 19:41:02 ET
Posted by: CJB, Try this
Dean,
Try this!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f31ch53dqw9vg1/Wooden%20Ships%20[MP3].mp3?dl=0
Link takes a second or two to load.
Failing that, follow the hotlink on Connor Kennedy's IG. Soundboard!
Date: Mon, October 19, 2020, 17:03:36 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. It's Happy Hour
CJB,
Linky no worky.
Date: Sun, October 18, 2020, 23:30:24 ET
Posted by: CJB, Sound Board
Oh, hey now!
Ride the music, ride the music, ride the music
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f31ch53dqw9vg1/Wooden%20Ships%20[MP3].mp3?dl=0
Date: Sun, October 18, 2020, 02:51:55 ET
Posted by: Tom, CT
I'm gonna guess it's Roger Nichols?
Date: Sat, October 17, 2020, 10:34:41 ET
Posted by: Gene, R
Somebody in this scene bears a striking resemblance to a close SD affiliate. What's your guess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtYg1xz1A00
Date: Fri, October 16, 2020, 15:04:44 ET
Posted by: Bob, Texas
Hi everyone and cheers from Texas.
Will Steely Dan tour this coming summer in 2021?
Thanks
Date: Fri, October 16, 2020, 01:00:41 ET
Posted by: anon, huh
Like, his email is right there. Hoops could have just emailed him personally to tell him.
Date: Fri, October 16, 2020, 00:59:48 ET
Posted by: anon, huh
Instead of putting this out there, again, why not just delete the post and question?
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2020, 22:38:37 ET
Posted by: hoops, the admin, Chicago
Al:
Walter's son has some permanent health problems and disabilities. Is, as far as we all know, unable to respond as such. He and his family prefer privacy as far as I understand.
Best regards,
Jim
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2020, 20:00:00 ET
Posted by: hoops, the admin, Chicago
Al:
Walter's son has some permanent health problems and disabilities. Is, as far as we all know, unable to respond as such. He and his family prefer privacy as far as I understand.
Best regards,
Jim
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2020, 19:52:19 ET
Posted by: Alan Doyal,
I've read Walter's daughter's heartfelt tribute to her dad.
Maybe I missed it, but why was there nothing written from his son?
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2020, 13:55:29 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Soggy Indy
Twitter censors a lot of important info., but not this SD tribute:
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/good-steely-dan-takes-twitter-interview-1073754/
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2020, 06:21:44 ET
Posted by: popegreg, Home At Last
Funny SD reference in the critically acclaimed cult comedy PEN15 that runs on Hulu
... (minor spoilers) ... They keep referencing the father of one the main characters, Maya, as a professional musician who's always on tour. Eventually we find out that he's the drummer in a nationally touring Steely Dan cover band (and he's played by Richard Karn). The band is later shown playing a sparsely attended show at a motel pool.
What's hilarious is that 13 year old Maya is played by 33 year old Maya Erskine and the character is semi-autobiographical. Her father is Peter Erskine of Weather Report/Jaco/Steps Ahead fame. Pretty cool.
Oh, and the title of the show means exactly what it looks like. It's an immature joke for a show that's about the end of immaturity. It's one of those cringe comedies, so it's not everyone's cup of tea but I'm a huge fan.
Date: Thurs, October 15, 2020, 02:05:52 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Mark,
That's outstanding. Not surprising That Donald doesn't see SD as a rock band, but R&B infused with some jazz.
Date: Wed, October 14, 2020, 13:46:09 ET
Posted by: not that, was thinking
Bil be cool we're just trying to see what you can prescribe us
Date: Mon, October 12, 2020, 17:37:07 ET
Posted by: Bil Chiaravel,
Don -
I don't have to be.
Date: Sun, October 11, 2020, 22:11:09 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Still home
Bil Chiaravel; You a doctor?
Date: Sat, October 10, 2020, 17:18:05 ET
Posted by: Bil Chiaravel,
Chasing the dragon and Heavy cigarette smoking = esophageal cancer?
Date: Sat, October 10, 2020, 13:14:57 ET
Posted by: dang, dang
dang, old podcast, just recently uploaded to YouTUbe
Date: Fri, October 09, 2020, 17:34:20 ET
Posted by: Bil Chiaravel,
Chasing thecancer? (and Heavy cigarette smoking)=esophageal csncer?
Date: Fri, October 09, 2020, 13:54:18 ET
Posted by: mark from north of boston, north of boston
Gang,
Did you know about this? Donald did a podcast Wednesday 10/6/2020. It is excellent. https://youtu.be/cwl4TYIm-M8
Date: Thurs, October 08, 2020, 22:59:34 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
The E.C. Leonhart Potter collaboration has a punk jazz Bowie sound to it.
Date: Tues, October 06, 2020, 16:42:18 ET
Posted by: Keith, 2020
@KeithCarlock
"Another blow in 2020- RIP Eddie Van Halen - so sad to hear this, an incredible loss. Thank you for everything EVH!"
Date: Fri, October 02, 2020, 17:43:31 ET
Posted by: Dangential, News
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/us/rick-moranis-assault-trnd
Date: Thurs, October 01, 2020, 01:49:16 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Don Was has had quite a path to Blue Note President.
Some nearpop breakthroughs, bassist, and production: Rickie Lee Jones after Walter produced Flying Cowboys), Bonnie Raitt, movies
Was Not Was snuck a bit of jazz into the R&B and funk.
https://youtu.be/MZg_Xv0uqGI
and old school
https://youtu.be/mS_2Ji3K4mQ
Date: Wed, September 30, 2020, 09:10:02 ET
Posted by: DonBreithaupt, Los Angeles
Hey Nicholas Urfe, good pick! Artemis is a legit supergroup. Renee is brilliant, and Allison Miller was our drummer for many years for the Breithaupt Brothers Songbook revues @ Joe's Pub in NYC (also featuring Michael Leonhart, Carolyn Leonhart, Jamie Leonhart, Catherine Russell).
Date: Tues, September 29, 2020, 08:20:45 ET
Posted by: trivia , Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilsv0C1-aBw
Date: Mon, September 28, 2020, 15:32:10 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Doc Mu, you started the ball rolling...
Paid $750 on the nose,
He's deducting all his clothes,
Yes he borrowed from his old man
Spent it in Florida,
Don't take him Alive.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2020, 14:57:00 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Sorry, too easy but...
I'm a bookkeeper's son
Trump don't want to pay no one
So he's hunkered with
Gold toilets down in Florida
Don't take him Alive.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2020, 03:30:22 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
The ATMH vamp/Don't Stand So Close to Me was recapitulated by Sting singing "I Want My MTV" prelude to Money For Nothing to the tune of Don't Stand So Close to Me.
Date: Mon, September 28, 2020, 03:07:33 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
I can't speak for youtubers, but the intro vamp for the verses from All Too Mobile Home sounds like the chorus of The Police's Don't Stand So Close to Me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pweAAOxoPVU
https://youtu.be/KNIZofPB8ZM
Date: Sun, September 27, 2020, 17:53:08 ET
Posted by: trivia, Q
A major, like one of the most successful of all time major, pop star later had a hit song many youtube commenters compare to This All too Mobile Home.
Name it.
Date: Sun, September 27, 2020, 10:50:15 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
I read a review of Artemis's new eponymous album, and ordered a copy. It is really nice.
http://www.bluenote.com/artist/artemis/
Date: Fri, September 25, 2020, 14:22:36 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Hit me. One more time!
Judith Hill, keyboard wizard and mother Michiko, bassist father Robert, drummer extraordinaire Michael White, and background singers all tested Positive!
For FUNK!
Got some Sly and the Family Stone action going on.
https://youtu.be/ybbylula1xc
Date: Fri, September 25, 2020, 13:56:28 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
Ha! I cannot believe I didn't realise they were mother and daughter. I didn't even notice the shared surname as a clue.
Talent in them thar genes that's for sure.
Date: Fri, September 25, 2020, 13:24:10 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Right. Michiko Hill is Judith's mom and she's crazy talented. Michiko is doing that Fagenesque synths blues harp thing beginning about 3:15 on the video you linked. A great track and performance.
It's always great to see and hear the masterful Abe Laboriel, yet another Fagen/Dan alumni!
Judith Hill recorded and played with Prince and Michael Jackson before they passed.
More funk with the HIll family and Michael White on a Prince ditty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvUQSdQ0PQE
Date: Fri, September 25, 2020, 12:50:56 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotlnd
Doc Mu, Re the Judith Hill stuff:
Loved it never heard of her before but great to see the immensely talented Michiko Hill on keys. I first came across her on this track when I was looking to hear me some bass.
Abe alert!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KU5keZlQ6k
Date: Thurs, September 24, 2020, 20:29:54 ET
Posted by: Michael,
https://youtu.be/oc6-gnEVCyk?t=635
An unexpected surprise to hear one of SD's pre-CBAT tracks featured in a skateboarding video.
Date: Wed, September 23, 2020, 19:28:01 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
Doc Mu, they played GP in San Diego 2006 and it was a little more uptempo than the version you posted. Goosebumps. Also, Walter sang Monkey In Your Soul and sounded great. Both were total surprises. Next day in the Bay Area I don't think either one was played.
That was the tour with M. McDonald and he couldn't make the San Diego gig, so we got some real nuggets, also I believe that was one of, if not the last 2 set concerts SD ever played, unless one of those Rarities Nights at the Beacon also were 2 sets.
Date: Tues, September 22, 2020, 20:57:46 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Old School:
https://youtu.be/sX4F7jPkYaU
Date: Tues, September 22, 2020, 20:51:04 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu ,
Steely Dan alum drummer Michael White (What a Shame About Me, Jack of Speed) with the IMMENSELY talented Judith Hill and family.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVHeemgiIfc
Date: Tues, September 22, 2020, 02:59:20 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Glamour Profession Live. Don't think I've heard this one.
https://youtu.be/o9dRgL3aV-8
Nice instrumental break, horn chart.
Hoops: I could hear All Too Mobile Home on CTE. Trade for Pearl of the Quarter. Sorry, sentimental folks.
Date: Tues, September 22, 2020, 00:46:26 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Mu
I agree "Mobile" could've been an FM album oriented radio in the 1970s. It would've fit fine on "Countdown To Ecstasy" or "Pretzel Logic." Not so sure about the top 40 but, here we are in 2020.
Date: Tues, September 22, 2020, 00:44:01 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Date: Mon, September 21, 2020, 12:09:18 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Lied
Liet is a planetologist in the Dune world
Date: Mon, September 21, 2020, 12:08:02 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
SD really should have added All Too Mobile Home to their shorter albums - Pretzel Logic or especially Katy Liet.
It's a Top 10 hit in the 70s.
Date: Mon, September 21, 2020, 12:00:35 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Hey, here's a funked up muzak version of Ben Folds (Five)' Kate by Maiya Sykes with Ben Folds guesting on Rhodes.
For you chord sluts out there, and as always you know who you are - this ditty is chock full of maj7ths, maj9ths, minor 13ths, suspended chords, and add6! fake mu-chord. Sounds simple, especially on the original recording, but it's not.
Very nice rendition.
https://youtu.be/gRkgC6sUC-o
Date: Sat, September 19, 2020, 01:39:00 ET
Posted by: COVID-19, No, we can't dance together
Frazz comic strip for September 19, 2020...
https://www.gocomics.com/frazz/2020/09/19
Date: Fri, September 18, 2020, 18:23:19 ET
Posted by: chris, nh
I never get tired of reliving the encore on rarities night ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij0Tsqn-Z3E
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2020, 19:51:37 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Rarities Night-
9 yrs later. Tempus Fugit
A night for the ages. So many cool things came out of that weekend. Not just the show, which was unreal, but the relationships that were started then. Years of shared enthusiasm, parties, dinners, parties, music, parties,global friendships followed. All thanks to Don & Walt's music.
We've been to many many shows, but that one was THE show for me. Such energy in the theater that night!
I still get excited when I think about it all! So happy 9th anniversary of the Rarities show. Stay healthy, stay safe, and stay optimistic. And as always,
Peace
Date: Thurs, September 17, 2020, 03:11:03 ET
Posted by: Louis, UK
Mock Turtle:
If we include DF, then both IGY and Walk Between Raindrops must count. IGY is obvious. Walk Between Raindrops is an odd one because the printed title is Walk Between Raindrops yet the lyric is "walk between the raindrops".
Date: Wed, September 16, 2020, 23:23:16 ET
Posted by: JoeJoe, Chicago
Oh, and Caves of Altamira
Date: Sun, September 13, 2020, 23:52:18 ET
Posted by: JoeJoe, Chicago
Mock Turtle,
-Kings
-Pretzel Logic
Date: Sat, September 12, 2020, 21:47:31 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Way SE of Hollywood
For those reddit aficionados...or if you have developed extreme tunnel vision and can tolerate reddit and their slogan: "Hey, at least we're not 4chan."
...Here's the Mary Turner interview from 1981: Walter, Donald, Gary Katz, Skunk Baxter, Dick LaPalm, etc.
or, hell it's on youtube now...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1536&v=SptXsgI2Y7w&feature=emb_logo
https://www.reddit.com/r/SteelyDan/comments/ir2c9f/interesting_1981_interviews_with_walter_donald/?%24deep_link=true&correlation_id=76aa8b99-52f3-4106-95dd-d54a646c7dc1&ref=email_digest&ref_campaign=email_digest&ref_source=email&utm_content=post_title&utm_medium=digest&utm_name=top_posts&utm_source=email&utm_term=day&%243p=e_as&%24original_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FSteelyDan%2Fcomments%2Fir2c9f%2Finteresting_1981_interviews_with_walter_donald%2F%3F%24deep_link%3Dtrue%26correlation_id%3D76aa8b99-52f3-4106-95dd-d54a646c7dc1%26ref%3Demail_digest%26ref_campaign%3Demail_digest%26ref_source%3Demail%26utm_content%3Dpost_title%26utm_medium%3Ddigest%26utm_name%3Dtop_posts%26utm_source%3Demail%26utm_term%3Dday&_branch_match_id=701482721760830894
Date: Tues, September 08, 2020, 07:56:15 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Oops, Rollins.
Date: Tues, September 08, 2020, 07:55:31 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Sonny Rolling turns 90 today. There was a good segment about him on NPR, and then Terry Gross replayed a 1994 (I think) interview with him. Outre Sonny Rollins.
Date: Sun, September 06, 2020, 19:27:36 ET
Posted by: Matt, beer gifts for men
Off-topic:
Century's End, West of Hollywood - connections?
Date: Sat, September 05, 2020, 17:33:31 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
@BenJammin,well said!! Hope we'll all be together down the road to share stories of these crazy times. Long live the Greater Dandom!!
And as always,
Peace
Date: Sat, September 05, 2020, 12:15:49 ET
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Date: Thurs, September 03, 2020, 16:17:53 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Indy: Reflecting on "Uncle" Walt
These three years since Walter jumped dimensions have moved quickly, but his legacy, humor, and grooves are still vibrant in the master works we can spin and savor. May his spirit live on through us in this awesome Dandom, and may Donald and Co. be able to return to the stage next summer, and continue to jam for many more seasons to come!
Hugs to y'all from the Circle City, and crank up some 11 Tracks or Circus $ this Labor Day!
Date: Thurs, September 03, 2020, 00:18:45 ET
Posted by: The Greater Dandom, Worldwide
Dear Walter,
Hindu Kush hugs and a big wet kiss.
💋💋💋💋💋
Love + peace out,
🙏💟☮️
The Greater Dandom
Date: Wed, September 02, 2020, 20:17:21 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Donald appears on Todd Rundgren's contribution to the Marc Bolin tribute album, "Planet Queen." The album is due out this Friday, September 4. The album was produced by beloved NYC-producer Hal Wilner, His final work before he passed away this past April 6 from COVID-19. Wilner's name has been added to the cover in tribute.  Wilner also produced the Thelonious Monk tribute album, "That's the Way I Feel Now" which came out in 1984. The album featured the track "Reflections" performed by Donald and Steve Kahn. If you scroll down to early April, when Wilner passed away, there's some more information about the Thelonius Monk tribute. It's been discussed numerous other times here as well, if you're so inclined for more information. The Rolling Stone article below has more info on the Bolan tribute.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/hal-willner-t-rex-tribute-1050676/
Date: Tues, September 01, 2020, 16:05:43 ET
Posted by: hoops,
"Who" = He = Jeff in the last post, although you probably figured that out.
Date: Tues, September 01, 2020, 16:04:33 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Jeff Baxter? Check out Donna Summer's "Hot Stuff."
Many fans have met him, especially at music tradeshows. I met him at MacWorld 1993 Boston. Who is demonstrating some MIDI software.
Date: Tues, August 25, 2020, 16:57:07 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Engineering
Okay, I have a long-standing desire to hear more of Jeff Baxter playing guitar. I've also been a massive Star Trek fan for nearly 50 years now, but this?
https://1260ksurf.com/home/engagement/?id=15953&title=More+details+on+William+Shatner%27s+blues+album+with+Canned+Heat%2C+Ritchie+Blackmore%2C+Steve+Cropper+%26+more&type=article
The mind boggles......
Date: Mon, August 24, 2020, 21:02:58 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
Tony, thanks for the heads-up.
But after reading the article, I have to admit I'm confused. Even the article says the tape of the great tape was ERASED (which is what we've always been told, to the best of my knowledge). So what is this on tape that has been found? A copy of the great take? A different/lesser take?
I hope they recover what they have the best they can. I also hope Don is part of the recovery crew. But I think we should temper our expectations.
Date: Mon, August 24, 2020, 16:07:17 ET
Posted by: Tony, ...
Best day ever??
Steely Dan Engineer Finds Lost ‘Second Arrangement’ Tapes
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/steely-dan-lost-second-arrangement-tapes/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral
(I think it's his kid who found it.)
Date: Sun, August 23, 2020, 13:25:58 ET
Posted by: Mt. Belzoni, Portland OR
Don & Walt weren't the only songwriters at the time who chose to musicalize the Lewis Carrol poem. The Simon Sisters- a mid-60's folk duo comprised of Lucy Simon (later a Broadway composer) and Carly Simon (later of - well, you know), released a 1969 album on Columbia Records (hey, they came from a well-connected upper East Side family) featuring The Lobster Quadrille, their version of the poem. And while Carly surely was surely not in the same league as our heroes, I do think that she & her sister emerged with the better song from this poem. You can hear it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ4IxiES6lE
And a bit more Dandom trivia - the Simon Sisters best known song was Wynken Blynken & Nod (from the same LP). Michael McDonald re-recorded this song with the Doobies for a late seventies Sesame St. album In Harmony. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H0YGtnhyas)
Carly did later devote a song to her friend Libby Titus . . . ok, I'll stop.
Date: Sat, August 22, 2020, 22:50:27 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Tom: Daddy is a double bonus as the first and last line of the song.
Date: Sat, August 22, 2020, 22:37:05 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Mock Turtle Song
Becker/Fagen but I guess not technically a Steely Dan track.
Lyrics of
Mock turtle song
Will you walk a little faster? said a whiting to a snail
There's a porpoise close behind us, and he's treading on my tail
Don't you see how eagerly the turtles and the lobsters all advance
They are waiting on the shingle, won't you come and join the dance?
Will you, won't you, will you, won't you, won't you join the dance?
(3x)
You can really have no notion how delightful it will be
When they take us up and throw us, with the lobsters in the sea
But the snail replied "Too far, too far!" and gave a look askance
Said he thanked the whiting kindly, but he would not join the dance
Would not, could not, would not, could not, would not join the dance
[Chorus]
(2x)
[Solo]
What matters it how far we go? his scaly friend replied
There is another shore, you know, upon the other side
The further off from England the nearer is to France
Then turn not pale, beloved snail, but come and join the dance
[Chorus]
(repeat to fade)
Date: Sat, August 22, 2020, 20:30:24 ET
Posted by: Tom, CT
C-19,
Is it Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More?
Date: Sat, August 22, 2020, 09:41:57 ET
Posted by: C-19 Sanity, up
Mock,
Yes Bodhisattva, and I thought of another (again if you ignore some ad-libbed stuff by Donald).
Date: Sat, August 22, 2020, 02:19:35 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Last line = title
Jack of Speed
Date: Fri, August 21, 2020, 18:26:49 ET
Posted by: Mock Turtle,
Louis - good call on Kings; I didn't think of that one.
C-19 - is it Bodhisattva?
Date: Fri, August 21, 2020, 16:39:01 ET
Posted by: Louis, Uk
Trivia:
What about "Kings"? Ok, don sings the word "king" a lot, but not "Kings". I'd count that, especially if Show Biz Kids doesn't count!
Date: Fri, August 21, 2020, 15:02:46 ET
Posted by: C-19, sanity
Name all the songs in the SD/DF/WB where the first lyric is the title.
Then name all where the last lyric is the title. (hint: if the title concludes the chorus, there's a good chance the song belongs in this list.)
I can think of one off the top of my head that is in both lists (if you don't count an ad-libbed word at the very end.)
Date: Fri, August 21, 2020, 13:39:25 ET
Posted by: Mock Turle,
@RD -
Official lyric sheet notwithstanding, pretty sure DF sings "showbusiness kids." unless I've been hearing it wrong all these years.
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2020, 21:53:16 ET
Posted by: RD, RR
Caves, Pretzel.
Show Biz Kids is part of the lyrics.
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2020, 21:07:54 ET
Posted by: Mock Turtle, trivia
"Teenage Wasteland" is really named "Baba O'Riley"
What TWO Dan songs' titles aren't found in their lyrics?*
I'm sure someone has asked this question before.
* Not including Show biz kids, YGT 2 or E st Louis toodle-oo.
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2020, 09:26:33 ET
Posted by: Jimmie, US
Carolyn Leonhart on Jazziz Daily Brunch.
Her favorite SD song is Throw Back the Little Ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TYDmbJ2CCo
Date: Thurs, August 20, 2020, 03:30:48 ET
Posted by: Louis, Uk
Is there a recording anywhere of Donald singing Book of Liars live? I never quite got to hear it properly.
Date: Sat, August 15, 2020, 00:24:00 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Dean:
Thanks for your condolences. I don't think Al posted here much, if at all. I think he is mainly from the Dandom Digest scene. It was a very close friend of the late Mark Drinan. One correction to my earlier post: Al was pretty much associated with Massachusetts. Al just happened to have some performances and I hit song associated with New Hampshire.
Date: Fri, August 14, 2020, 22:39:49 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
Very sad, Jim. RIP to Al.
Did he post here often? If so, did he use a different handle?
Whatever that may be, my condolences to his friends and family,
Date: Fri, August 14, 2020, 00:28:42 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Some sad news to report: New Hampshire's number one Steely Dan fan, Al Pechulis, passed away suddenly. He did have some chronic health problems which contributed to things. Aside from being a regular at many of the Boston area Danfests,  for decades, Al had his own band going all the way back to the late 1960s. He usually performed under the name Al Peach and the Peaches. He had a local hit with "Surfin' in New Hampshire." L was also very involved in political activism, probably the most left leaning person I know. Al, I'm sure you're enjoying some great music up there, better than what we have down here. Say hello to our buddy Mark Drinan and of course Walter while you're up there. Much love from all of us to your family and loved ones here left behind. Al appears at around 37 seconds into the "gear slut" video. Here is the link here is the link. https://youtu.be/6t5s1vurAGs
Date: Thurs, August 13, 2020, 10:47:29 ET
Posted by: Chad, J
Security Joan and Miss Marlene are self explanatory crushes on an airport security guard and bowling alley queen pin, respectively.
But is Negative Girl about an obsession with a Fotomat kiosk attendant?
Date: Tues, August 11, 2020, 12:07:47 ET
Posted by: Michael Borshuk, Lubbock, Texas, USA
Long time Dandom follower here (dating all the way back to discovering a whole Steely Dan community via Usenet news in the early 90s!). I'm writing to see if anybody can provide an email address for Donald Fagen's management, which I might email to propose an interview request.
Thanks for any help!
Date: Sun, August 09, 2020, 16:18:53 ET
Posted by: Paul Pierce, Southern California
Long LONG time Dan fan! Although some of my absolute favorites out of that group of players are songs from Kamakeriad / Fagen. Just such amazingly tight grooves. LOVE the crack of what sounds like a piccolo snare drum. Tight and dryer than a bone. There are just so many textures there.
Anyway, glad to find your group! May the Dan keep rockin! Or jazzin! Or whatever people want to tag it as.
Date: Fri, August 07, 2020, 15:37:34 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
zzzzz - I think the significance of reaction videos and uptick in YT views is that after being the brunt of misplaced ridicule by a significant cohort of largely white millennials, a younger generation of African-Americans is recognizing the high value and quality of the Steely Dan discography.
Steely Dan is often pigeonholed into "Classic Rock," but they were never really a rock band, nor do they really write rock music, even SoCal rock. Chord progression, attitude, beat, etc. are really R&B with jazz overtones and sometimes a rock beat. The young bucks and buckettes recognize that the righteous grooves, quality of the songs, lyrics, harmonies, and musicianship are dope.
It changed. It grew, and everybody knew.
Date: Fri, August 07, 2020, 14:58:59 ET
Posted by: zzzz, zz
Eh, everyone already knows about reaction videos and where to find them if they are interested.
Date: Fri, August 07, 2020, 12:20:55 ET
Posted by: Lee, Tampa
Here is a video of two young African American men listening to Steely Dan the first time ever via the playing of Do It Again. I think most of you will enjoy their reactions to the song. It shows again that great music has no real generational limits, if given the chance to impress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqITzPGD0Ko
They have a you tube page in which they listen and give reactions to many artists and songs outside of the genres young African Americans (and almost all young Americans) usually listen to.
https://www.youtube.com/c/TwinsthenewTrend/videos
Date: Fri, August 07, 2020, 03:02:46 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
I should mention the Bose soundbars are actually engineered to pick out
and clarify conversations in a busy, layered mix like in movies and television. It's built in "mechanical filters"...not the electronic filtering that Zoom uses...but neither approach is ideal for listening to music. (highly problematic with Zoom)
Date: Fri, August 07, 2020, 02:57:04 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, hear what you never have heard
Mock - on the TvN DVD-A (stereo mix) the snare sounds like it was played by a human, and is down and more natural in the mix. The rest of the instrument opens up with more space. The dynamic range (over)sampling rate and higher bitrate pays off.
Jim, We're on the same wavelength. When I play a CD or DVD-A of SD in the house, I use the stereo mix only, without the Bose soundbar. Scheiner's stereo mix is superb and preferable to the 5.1...at least to my ears.
Only use the fake 5.1 for movies.
Date: Wed, August 05, 2020, 12:56:23 ET
Posted by: Mock Turtle,
>This is one thing that's almost entirely missing from Steely Dan discussion from the 1970s through roughly 2003: Remember when a huge segment of Steely discussion with centering around innovative and top line audio? You really don't hear that anymore.
I think that convenience - streaming VBR MP3s and bluetooth - has for the most part won out, leaving audiophile gear a small niche today.
Speaking for myself, I would like to dip my toes into audiophile gear but also have my doubts about whether I would really be able to tell the difference. I think I want open-backed cans and Schiit DAC and Amp to drive.
I do like the 2vN DVD-A, which I play in my car, but I'm not sure whether the improved sound quality is just a result of the drastically different mix (so different that the solo sax is actually a different one in Gaslighting Abbie, for example).
Date: Mon, August 03, 2020, 08:28:16 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Mu:
Thank you for the feedback. Much appreciated.
For whatever reason, probably ignorance on my own part, sound bars and Steely Dan don't seem to mix. . Maybe it's a generational on my part.
Best,
Jim
Date: Mon, August 03, 2020, 06:02:48 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Mu:
Thank you for the feedback. Much appreciated.
For whatever reason, probably ignorance on my own part, sound bars and Steely Dan don't seem to mix. . Maybe it's a generational on my part.
Best,
Jim
Date: Sun, August 02, 2020, 18:49:15 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Thai-d over
Hey Jim/Hoops,
I have a pair of Boston Acoustics A60s. Bought a kit about 6 years ago and refurbished them. They are still working great...and are linked to Yamaha DVD(A)/Blu-Ray player and receiver/amp. I use Bose speakers to build a "fake 5.1" for movies.
TBH, I don't use them as much as I'd like. The three women in the house, including a ginger labrador, don't dig loud music!
Date: Sat, August 01, 2020, 15:13:24 ET
Posted by: vinyl, vinyl
"This is one thing that's almost entirely missing from Steely Dan discussion from the 1970s through roughly 2003: Remember when a huge segment of Steely discussion with centering around innovative and top line audio? You really don't hear that anymore."
Once again: nobody has any money.
Date: Sat, August 01, 2020, 11:21:28 ET
Posted by: EC/NY,
M/O/D/P - Good to see you posting again, it's been too long since we've heard from you. Not exactly the hilarity level reached during the Great Springsteen Dustup all those years ago (remember the fun?), but a welcome surprise nonetheless. Thanks & welcome back.
Now if someone could just figure out how to coax Jazzassin and DYLYNFAN and Abu and hell, even KD (OK...maybe especially KD) to contribute once again, we'd all have it made.
Ed
Date: Sat, August 01, 2020, 11:19:33 ET
Posted by: EC/NY, On The Run
M/O/D/P - Good to see you posting again, it's been too long since we've heard from you. Not exactly the hilarity level reached during the Great Springsteen Dustup all those years ago (remember the fun?), but a welcome surprise nonetheless. Thanks & welcome back.
Now if someone could just figure out how to coax Jazzassin and DYLYNFAN and Abu and hell, even KD (OK...maybe especially KD) to contribute once again, we'd all have it made here.
Ed
Date: Sat, August 01, 2020, 09:22:44 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
BTW: Hey, Dean, M/O/D/P, Mu, everyone else.....
Date: Sat, August 01, 2020, 09:20:04 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
St-Fan:
I am one of those people who say that the SACD issue of "Gaucho" has the best stereo version out there. If you can find it, last I saw it went for well over $100 a copy. Who plays in any CD player that I had just fine. I even played it in a 1990 Sony Discman,, not that I'm recommending that for the optimal experience. Just want to point out that there's virtually no problem playing it.
This leads me to one of the issues I have with SACD and DVD-A. Specifically, because of different firmware and digital receivers, not all SACD and DVD-A players are compatible with other receivers that are supposedly SACD and DVD -A. If I connect my Toshiba SACD player to my Denon SACD compatible receiver, I can only get the stereo mix. I spent a lot of time in audio forums trying to figure this out, with no luck.
The fact that the standards are not even standard has done a lot to dissipate interest in the formats, IMHO.
This is one thing that's almost entirely missing from Steely Dan discussion from the 1970s through roughly 2003: Remember when a huge segment of Steely discussion with centering around innovative and top line audio? You really don't hear that anymore.
Which brings me to my question for everybody: I have a pair of Boston Acoustics A70s. I had them in storage for the past 15 years. The cones have disintegrated. (not surprising.) They need to be re-coned. The cabinets are nice and solid. Has anyone here re-coned similar-quality speakers? Were you happy with the results? Is it worth the trouble?
Be well and stay safe everyone. Hang in there for another 10-18 months when hopefully Donald will be back out there touring again.
Jim
Date: Fri, July 31, 2020, 20:41:47 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
M/O/D/P!!!
Glad to hear from you!
What The Dean said!!!
Peace!
Date: Fri, July 31, 2020, 08:57:37 ET
Posted by: chris, nh
Doc, thanks for the excuse to listen to Jordan: The Comeback again.
Date: Fri, July 31, 2020, 08:44:47 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
M/O/D/P,
Good to know you are OK. And of course I agree 100% with your thoughts on streaming.
Drop me a line when you have a chance.
Date: Fri, July 31, 2020, 02:15:09 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Thai-dyed Steely Dan t-shirt.
M/O/D/P: I do enjoy red curry paste and peanut sauce over blanched shrimp and Dan Dan noodles.
Duckling you're a swan...
https://youtu.be/eG2Uqga_fKo
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2020, 21:03:27 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Correctional Services
Sorry. That should have been "Doc Mu". NOT "Duc Mu". It's the beloved long-time Bluebook poster, not some dubious/infamous drug kingpin from Thailand fer chrissakes.
Damn autocorrect!
M/O/D/P
Date: Thurs, July 30, 2020, 20:57:25 ET
Posted by: M/O/D/P, Back from the dead/They think I'm OK/Or so they say...
QUOTE: "ALL OF THAT IS PASSE. Streaming."
As an observation of what's actually going on circa 2020 regarding the manner in which music product is now delivered to the consumer, this pithy [pissy?] observation from Duc Mu is, sadly, 100% correct.
However...although owning physical product i.e. possessing i.e. having continuous/uninterrupted control over your favorite music may now be "passé" for some, it certainly isn't "passé" when the streaming service suddenly & arbitrarily decides to stop "steaming" the material you love because there aren't enough of "you" to support the business model, or because some bloodless carpetbagger decides to replace your stuff with yet another steaming batch of even more outrageous/critically acclaimed [sic] material from that dumpy teenage thing with the green hair and the bulky clothing and the manufactured image. You know, the repulsive critter that *cough* won the Grammy, just like Don & Walt did around twenty years ago. That.
The idea that we should all just ditch our physical media and "stream" everything is both short-sighted and self-defeating. Oh, and idiotic. Don't forget that part. I certainly haven't.
M/O/D/P
Date: Wed, July 29, 2020, 02:38:32 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
A system that will play DVD-A isn't that expensive. Most video players that play DVDs and Blu-Ray could do it.
ALL OF THAT IS PASSE. Streaming.
Eliot Scheiner mixed the Fagen/Steely Dan DVD-As, so their sound is superior. Like vinyl without the hiss, crackle, and pop.
SACD sounds great, but not significantly better.
Date: Tues, July 28, 2020, 12:49:21 ET
Posted by: vinyl, vinyl
a less-Boomercentric acknowledgement will point out that the hi-fi purchasing income for generations that followed in the aughts and 2010s wasn't what someone could collect from similar jobs in the 1970s and 1980s.
Date: Mon, July 27, 2020, 21:25:13 ET
Posted by: st-fan, NJ
Saying DVD-A "really didn't make it" is quite the understatement. The people who could afford the high end equipment for it to make any difference in sound were of the age where their hearing wasn't what it used to be anyway. And it was introduced at a time when music was going in an entirely different direction, with mp3 sacrificing sound quality for convenience.
Fagen's boxed set was going to be MVI disc only, another DOA format. I posted on here that I would have absolutely no reason to buy it if CDs were not also included, noting among other things that my car wouldn't play anything else. By that time, the DVD-As I had collected five years earlier were collecting dust. Either somebody read it and agreed with me, or they came to the same conclusion on their own and it was soon after announced that it would include CDs "so people can play it in their car."
I understand the Gaucho SACD/CD hybrid is worth it for the superior CD mix.
Date: Mon, July 27, 2020, 16:52:50 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Gaucho
Date: Mon, July 27, 2020, 16:52:17 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
TvN sounds FAR better on DVD-Audio than CD, even in the stereo DVD-A format. The snare is less obtrusive and more organic sounding. Kama and Guacho are a lot better on DVD-A (another audiophile format that really didn't make it).
Have not heard TvN on vinyl.
Date: Mon, July 27, 2020, 11:37:48 ET
Posted by: vinyl, vinyl
I grew up in the CD era but have been a vinyl guy all my life. Most of the music I listen to sounds better on vinyl, because it was meant to be played on vinyl.
I have far less interest in a TVN vinyl than I would any other Steely Dan album -- that record was recorded and mixed to be on a compact disc, and to me that is where it sounds best.
I'd love TVN on vinyl, that album is gonna sound great on backward cassette. But walking into a desperate record store these days is weird, the vinyl usually spinning is some 90s record reconfigured to be on vinyl.
I love "Debut" by Bjork, but I don't want it on vinyl. Same with Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, or any of the other digital stuff they re-route to vinyl to make more money.
I'll buy it when it comes out, and I'll love it, 98 percent of the music I spin at home is on vinyl.
I listen to my vinyl of Morph the Cat all the time, but when I really want to drive it home I'll put on the CD. Some stuff sounds better on vinyl, some stuff sounds better on CD.
Luckily for us, Steely stuff sounds great all over.
Date: Mon, July 27, 2020, 03:07:20 ET
Posted by: Volker, Dortmund
Scott Hull mentioned a possible release for RSD 2020 but the record never appeared in any of the lists.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2020, 17:22:13 ET
Posted by: Tom, CT
I was wondering the same, Volker.
Date: Sun, July 26, 2020, 13:27:30 ET
Posted by: Volker, Dortmund
Hello,
I‘m wondering if there are any news about a possible vinyl release of 2vN.
The interview posted here with the guy at Masterdisk who was involved in the mastering process sounded very promising.
Is there anyone out there who knows more )except Donald of course) ?
Thanks for any piece of info.
All the best from here.
Volker
Date: Fri, July 24, 2020, 16:31:59 ET
Posted by: Vladimir, Minsk
Vlad says thank you at Mr. Don Patrol with Mr. The Dean for keeping Vlad's back. Vlad hopes that Mr. Don Patrol isn't got to tell you twice.
Vlad outs!
Date: Fri, July 24, 2020, 12:38:07 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
Jurgen, who pissed in your cereal this morning? Vlad never took a mean shot at anyone. He merely expressed HIS opinion. He never suggested others should stop expressing theirs. That's all on you.
Pretty shitty way to treat a Steely brother or sister, IMO.
Date: Fri, July 24, 2020, 12:35:27 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Why all the euro-aggressivity?
Peace!
Date: Thurs, July 23, 2020, 15:53:26 ET
Posted by: Jurgen, Omsk
Oh, fuck off, Vlads.
Date: Wed, July 22, 2020, 08:01:28 ET
Posted by: Vladimir, Minsk
Et tu, Comrade Jurgen?
Vlad outs!
Date: Tues, July 21, 2020, 16:01:16 ET
Posted by: Jurgen, Omsk
Jurgen think Vlad should find a more boring place to exist. If not for petty wonderings on these dysphoric ditties, where would we be?
Jurgen out. (Hopefully Vlad will go too)
Date: Thurs, July 16, 2020, 15:40:59 ET
Posted by: Vladimir, Minsk
Vlad says just only sometimes that cigar is only a cigar.
Vlad outs!
Date: Wed, July 15, 2020, 17:26:57 ET
Posted by: Scurvy Bruv,
Doc MU: Good call. It's like "Major Dude" is the perspective of a Sun Myung Moon-type and "Barrytown" is the POV of a critic of the cult. The follower is getting jerked around in the middle with no tune of his own. (Except Boddhi perhaps.)
Date: Wed, July 15, 2020, 17:08:58 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Scurvy: I was thinking Any Major Dude was a prelude to Barrytown (Moonies), which it literally is on Pretzel Logic.
What if Pretzel Logic is actually a concept album where each song is a serial adventure for the protagonist...like Kamakiriad.
Just sayin'
Date: Wed, July 15, 2020, 17:04:21 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
There are a couple of licks in the guitar solo by Krantz that are really amazing on Rhymes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m66623AoL8
Todd's got the funk down.
Date: Sat, July 11, 2020, 22:44:56 ET
Posted by: Scurvy Bruv,
I thought Major Dude was earnest too, but after a fresh listen, Major Dude may be a prequel to Bodhisattva. That is, it’s the health and wellness sales pitch that sparks the ecstatic follower of the boddhi.
Date: Sat, July 11, 2020, 15:50:56 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
YT link:
https://youtu.be/Qn8-rwWjzEQ
Date: Sat, July 11, 2020, 15:48:11 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
DonB - that's my favorite track on Friday.
[I didn't mention MH tracks, because, well, it's a given ;) ]
Date: Sat, July 11, 2020, 15:48:05 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
DonB - that's my favorite track on Friday.
[I didn't mention MH tracks, because, well, it's a given ;) ]
Date: Sat, July 11, 2020, 15:36:06 ET
Posted by: DonB, Los Angeles
We've got your mu content right here:
"Nine O'Clock Friday"
Monkey House
(2019)
https://open.spotify.com/track/6wlxbcCb77qCV3AvPOYHK8?si=GFDt2h_RSSuzDnvcI1R8pg
Date: Sat, July 11, 2020, 12:26:54 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
If a 2 chord Vulfpeck vamp isn't to your liking, then...
Sure, David Foster's keyboards lean a little sickly in phrasing/sound over gorgeous chords, and the lyrics are a bit mushy.
But Al Jarreau's After All, composed largely by Al and producer/guitarist Jay Graydon is a 31 chord slutfest. Sounds like a follow-up to E, W, & F's After the Love is Gone - also co-written by Jay (and Foster) and won Jay a Grammy.
Plenty of major and minor 7ths, flatted and minor add 9ths, 7th stacks to go around. Then a Badd9 in the outtro, so close enough! Hit #6 on the A/C chart. This song and Moonlighting were Al Jarreau's last major hits in the US. Our loss.
https://youtu.be/YfWjAex7R9E
Date: Sat, July 11, 2020, 12:08:24 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Some nice G and F mu major chords in the Vulfpeck song Hero Town.
Not bad. Although, TBH they don't do much with it.
https://youtu.be/l_BtsZSf2yM
Date: Sat, July 11, 2020, 12:04:04 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, these tabs are iffy, you say they're good
In Search of the Lost Chord...I'm rifling through songs which express mu chords or darn close to them. Whether by add 2 or add 9 or chord substitution...
So, this piece of clever tune smithery by Justin Hayward and the Moody Blues sneaks a mu-ey Cadd9 into the verse repeatedly, which ends with a D7sus2, which is damn close to another mu chord. Hayward also stacks G over B, not to mention the Gmaj7/B. These chords and the melody provide dissonance that wounds a little minor-like and providing emotion, while really remaining major.
In the extended bridge Hayward stacks C over G (C/G), which they beat to death in the chorus.
I don't know if Justin Hayward sought subversion by infusing jazz chords into a "classical" Mike Pinder-driven soundscape or more likely to combine a faux minor key sound with ear candy and power.
Regardless, Never Comes the Day is one of the Moody Blues' best recordings, even though it bombed on the American singles charts.
https://youtu.be/febLdsx97PU
Date: Sat, July 11, 2020, 11:20:04 ET
Posted by: Gil, U
re: Is Major Dude earnest or a parody? I always thought it was earnest, even if in a calculated way. Sort of like a pinch of salt in your coffee grounds to neutralize the bitterness. Bad Sneakers was the song from a more cynical point of view.
Date: Fri, July 10, 2020, 03:50:50 ET
Posted by: Philippe, Poudensan
Oops, missed Hoops birthday, so bon anniversaire Jim, we both are cancer, the best sign for sure. Thanks a lot for creating this place, good to come back to it from time to time, like a Steely Dan shelter. Amicalement
Philippe
Date: Wed, July 08, 2020, 20:46:55 ET
Posted by: Vladimir, Minsk
Vlad says long time no talking on the blue and welcome. It has been many long times because some people are not like Vlad postings. Vlad gets it. But saying to the Hoops Mr. Jim happy birthday brings me from the hiding. Happy birthday Mr. Hoops and thanking you for giving us the blue. Hoping you for many more.
Vlad outs!
Date: Tues, July 07, 2020, 22:28:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
Hoops,
Happy belated birthday! Sorry I missed it earlier. I hope it was as good as circumstances allow.
Date: Mon, July 06, 2020, 21:08:37 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
Jim, hope you are having a wonderful birthday. All the best in the coming year.
Date: Mon, July 06, 2020, 18:30:42 ET
Posted by: Beast w/o A Name, Mizar 5
HAPPY BIRTHDAY HOOPS !
Date: Mon, July 06, 2020, 11:50:58 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Don Patrol, Paul, others:
Thanks for the good birthday wishes. Here's to 2021 and catching up at some Steely Dan shows. And thanks for the friendship here, it's been so many years. Very grateful.
Jim
Date: Mon, July 06, 2020, 10:50:58 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Happy birthday Hoops,and thanks for all you do for us on the Blue! Peace.
Date: Mon, July 06, 2020, 01:41:31 ET
Posted by: Paul,
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HOOPSter!
Date: Sat, July 04, 2020, 07:26:19 ET
Posted by: Michael, You do his 9 to 5, drag yourself home half-alive...
Reading the comments on YT for Only a Fool Would Say That, some people speculate that it's a cynical retort of sorts to Imagine by John Lennon who was moralizing about some sort of communistic utopian world while living a life of excess and vanity in his multi-million dollar mansion. Don't know if that was Don & Walt's original intent but it's an interesting take regardless.
Date: Fri, July 03, 2020, 08:17:37 ET
Posted by: popegreg , MKE
Dangentail, if only for the title, HBO has a new documentary coming out later this month called Showbiz Kids. It’s about child actors and directed by former child actor Alex Winter (Bill of “Bill And Ted” fame, Bill And Ted 3: Face The Music out later this year!!!).
https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/showbiz-kids
Would be cool if they used the song.
Date: Fri, July 03, 2020, 02:14:59 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Early version of FM. It sounds like they recorded this and built layers (Porcaro drums, guitar, strings, bass, etc.) around the vocals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqBtUnymI7Q
Date: Tues, June 30, 2020, 06:53:01 ET
Posted by: Phil, Pau
RIP Johnny Mandel who arranged the string section in FM
Date: Mon, June 29, 2020, 20:49:01 ET
Posted by: ,
From the Boston Globe:
"The lyrics to one of their best tunes, 'Any Major Dude Will Tell You' (from 'Pretzel Logic,' 1974), sound like a parody of Me Decade mellow-speak. And guess what? They are."
I've always taken this song to be earnest. Has this flown over my head all these years?
Date: Mon, June 29, 2020, 18:01:17 ET
Posted by: Jim, Chicago
Donald's "Eminent Hipsters" ranks 37th on Rolling Stones' top 50 rock 'n' roll memoirs.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/books-greatest-rock-memoirs-of-all-time-161198/
Date: Sun, June 28, 2020, 22:28:37 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
@the Dean,
drop me a line sometime.
Hope all the B'bookers are safe and well.
Peace
Date: Sun, June 28, 2020, 17:13:29 ET
Posted by: Marty, I
Commentary on the various recent "dad rock" articles on SD.
https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2020/06/28/the-unappreciated-greatness-of-steely-dan/
Date: Sun, June 28, 2020, 12:28:02 ET
Posted by: Gene, M
Why not "Like when Steely Dan hires a bunch of black guys to play on their albums."
Date: Sat, June 27, 2020, 23:54:43 ET
Posted by: Tony, Drinking a black cow
Hope everyone is well! Just wanted to let ya'll know Steely Dan got a shout-out from Bill Maher last night:
"Things are better when the races get together... like when rappers sample Steely Dan."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=Yv0P1-gpEFc&feature=emb_title
Steely Dan on the front lines of racial justice!
Date: Fri, June 26, 2020, 21:31:46 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba, East of Hollywood
I dunno if anyone else bought anything in the auction, but the quoted estimate for shipping is insane! $95 for a couple of pieces of paper (and that's uninsured).
Has anyone negotiated with or handled this otherwise?
Date: Fri, June 26, 2020, 19:17:16 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, these tabs look iffy, you say they're good...
A lot of groups are jamming in isolation these days. Here's Mamas Gun featuring Andy Platt's stellar songwriting chops featuring some nice changes, and a bit of Marvin Gaye channeling.
https://youtu.be/DFdiHnnVmHA
Here's the tabs for those chord tabs for those chord sluts out there, and you know how you are:
[Intro]
|Gm9 |C13sus4
|Dm9 D7
[Verse 1]
Gm9
When I look over my shoulder see a trail of broken dreams
C13sus4 Dm9 D7
Am I getting any closer to where I wanna be
Gm9
'Cause I never seem to catch up no matter how I try
C13sus4
To the man I want to be
Dm9 D7
I’m always just one step behind
[Chorus]
Gm9
Now it feels like something is about to change
C13sus4
I can feel it coming yeah
Fmaj7
This is the day
Dm9 D7
This is the day
Gm9
When the sun shines brighter than it did before
C13sus4
And the voice inside ya says "Whatcha waiting for?"
Fmaj7
This is the day
Dm9 D7
This is the day
[Verse 2]
Gm9
Feels like a new beginning
C13sus4
Gonna let this be day one, like yesterday is ending
Dm9 D7
And life has just begun,
Gm9
Feels like the curse is lifted while all the sorrows and the rest
C13sus4
I’ve never felt so gifted, no
Dm9 D7
I’ve never felt so blessed
[Chorus]
Gm9
Now it feels like something is about to change
C13sus4
I can feel it coming yeah yeah
Fmaj7
This is the day
Dm9 D7
This is the day
Gm9
When the sun shines brighter than it did before
C13sus4
And the voice inside ya says "Whatcha waiting for?"
Fmaj7
This is the day
Dm9 D7
This is the day
[Bridge]
Gm9
Yeah I’m gonna take it take it with both hands
Eb7
Gonna celebrate it with everything I am
Fmaj7/C
All my life I waited, waited for this day
Adim7 D7
Maybe we won’t ever get this chance again
[Instrumental]
|Gm9 |C13sus4
|Fmaj7 |Dm9 D7
[Chorus]
Gm9
Now it feels like something is about to change
C13sus4
I can feel it coming yeah
Fmaj7
This is the day
Dm9 D7
This is the day
Gm9
When the sun shines brighter than it did before
C13sus4
And the voice inside ya says "Whatcha waiting for?"
Fmaj7
This is the daaaaaaaaay
Dm9 D7
This is the day
[Outro]
Gm9
Yeah I’m gonna take it take it with both hands
Eb7
Gonna celebrate it with everything I am
Fmaj7/C
All my life I waited, waited for this day
Adim7 D7
Maybe we won’t ever get this chance again
Date: Tues, June 23, 2020, 17:41:36 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. It's Happy Hour
Bad Sneakers,
The link works for me. Thank you.
Date: Tues, June 23, 2020, 10:07:57 ET
Posted by: BadSneaker, Going insane
Not sure if posting this link will work...
This turned out to be Walter's last show... Greenwich Town Party, Memorial Day 2017
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tzVEQFDiUGFZVXe27
Date: Mon, June 15, 2020, 21:17:47 ET
Posted by: Randy, G
You think Don & Walt saw the end of this news clip in 1978 and thought "hey, that sounds like it could be a song..."
https://youtu.be/LE0T9MYC8NQ?t=90
Nah.
Date: Sun, June 14, 2020, 02:15:38 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
Thank you, Jim for sharing this little nugget.
Date: Fri, June 12, 2020, 21:26:24 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, left of the Rio Grande
Darn nice cover of The New Frontier.
https://youtu.be/wcCydimc6Ro
Date: Thurs, June 11, 2020, 17:23:35 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
I got to speak with Phil Woods about "Dr. Wu" about 16 or 17 years ago.
Clearly he was very proud of his contribution to the track. I was at a show in Chicago as "Jazz showcase" (then at the Grand/Clark location). Phil and Bill Charlap were performing together. I had previously met Bill backstage at Steely Dan show. I was chitchatting between sets, and Phil Woods came up to us. Bill introduced me as a friend of Donald and Walter; Phil got very excited, and then commented that he had played on "Dr. Wu." He was pretty enthusiastic about how much he loved the date. Maybe it wasn't the most in-depth conversation, but it was very nice of them to speak with me and it was really cool to hang out with two legends that I admired.
Hoping all of you are feeling peace, love, and safety.
Jim
Date: Wed, June 10, 2020, 23:56:23 ET
Posted by: stand and applaud, Marty
do we know who played the lead guitar on I Mean to Shine?
Dicogs has nothing and Wikipedia lists Mike Deasy, John Uribe, Louie Shelton, Eric Weissberg as guitar players on the LP alongside that badass from Fanny.
Date: Wed, June 10, 2020, 23:33:12 ET
Posted by: Geo, in quarantine with time to kill
Ok, finally found a mention of Dr Wu by Phil Woods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SJxmCzYpoo&feature=youtu.be&t=1800
Date: Mon, June 08, 2020, 21:16:48 ET
Posted by: Geo, CT
Phil Woods discussing some of his pop music contributions. Billy Joel, Paul Simon, Phoebe Snow...and a couple others that "elude" him. Damn, wanted to hear him talk about Dr Wu.
https://youtu.be/14nSSq1zQMk?t=3902
Date: Sun, June 07, 2020, 20:25:54 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, ...
Sonny Rollins also played sax on the Rolling Stones' "Neighbors"
Date: Sun, June 07, 2020, 19:45:56 ET
Posted by: Jerry, G
Sonny Rollins plays sax on this Rolling Stones hit in a rare (only?) appearance on a pop/rock record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKLVmBOOqVU
Anyone know if Don and Walt ever tried getting him on an SD session?
Date: Sun, June 07, 2020, 13:15:48 ET
Posted by: dirk,
1450 bucks for CBAT ...
https://blog.discogs.com/en/top-30-most-expensive-items-sold-in-discogs-marketplace-april-2020/
Date: Fri, June 05, 2020, 08:32:34 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Don't you think that the Crosby thing will be something like the Tin Foil Hat collaboration with TR? A one-off anti-Trump screed? Not that there's anything wrong with one-off anti-Trump screeds.
1960s and 1970s protest music was influential in sculpting the American landscape of the day. Maybe some rap, hip-hop, whatever has filled that role at times, but protest music by and large is not affecting our culture today. Or maybe I just don't hear it. But that's the thing about the 1960s and 1970s protest music. It was everywhere. There was no missing it.
Date: Fri, June 05, 2020, 03:58:21 ET
Posted by: Philippe, Pau France
I guess that's what they call a supergroup : http://abcnewsradioonline.com/music-news/2020/6/3/david-crosby-reveals-that-hes-working-on-new-songs-with-dona.html?fbclid=IwAR1Q1FmU2JocMSdwSZuuymgT6qmRUxNBXSXqfXjAjliTJGQgOiyMfZWltE0
Date: Wed, June 03, 2020, 17:26:04 ET
Posted by: Philippe , Pau
Traces of Dan, or Don, inside :https://youtu.be/ZGTJY3J_7ME
Date: Tues, June 02, 2020, 23:52:50 ET
Posted by: Tim Smolens, Denver, Co
Brand New cover of "The Second Arrangement." Check out this sneak preview of the lost Dan song I have been recording for 6 straight months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-j93e_-FzA
Date: Mon, June 01, 2020, 15:24:00 ET
Posted by: Lenny, n
https://twitter.com/thedavidcrosby/status/1267468675973447680
Date: Sun, May 31, 2020, 22:26:10 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Warne
Date: Sun, May 31, 2020, 22:23:47 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Detective - Yeah, the Cameron Crowe article "We're sitting out the 70s...waiting for better times." D&W's joke for the 80s as well.
My understanding is that Rapunzel (for the Christlieb and Wayne Marsh album) and FM were recorded after the Aja sessions. Jeff Porcaro I think was mostly recording Toto's first album during the original Aja sessions. Stand by the Seawall - Steve Gadd. I can't think of an Aja session with Jeff.
Walter handled bass, not Rainey, and Donald played the piano.
FM did result in Grammys for Roger Nichols and Al Schmitt for best engineered recording.
Date: Sun, May 31, 2020, 00:47:24 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Thanks, Dean....
Nice to revisit those writings.
Jim
Date: Thurs, May 28, 2020, 23:35:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
Nice Les.
Here's a little something to go with it:
https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/archives/bringing-up-steely-dan/article_75f7e03b-bd4e-51bb-9337-81d6a526b2d1.html
Date: Thurs, May 28, 2020, 16:29:13 ET
Posted by: Les, W
Never knew Donald's father was a WW2 vet.
https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/archives/joseph-fagen/article_bce92ba3-f05c-59e4-b7e1-180e57c97b5e.html
Date: Wed, May 27, 2020, 22:51:44 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
Detective,
Interesting. This is the version I've typically heard:
"FM" was the first single Steely Dan released on MCA Records (which had released the soundtrack), predating MCA's acquisition of ABC Records, the band's previous label, by a year. At the time of its release, the band's album Aja was enjoying critical and commercial success, leading some listeners to incorrectly assume that "FM" was also on that album.[3] Since then, it has been included on some of the band's compilation albums.
However, "FM" had been recorded during the same sessions as Aja, using some of the same studio musicians and recording personnel, in addition to band members and songwriters Walter Becker and Donald Fagen. Among them were saxophonist Pete Christlieb and drummer Jeff Porcaro; several members of the Eagles sang backing vocals.[4]
Keep in mind, the source for that is Brian Sweet. Not exactly Mr Reliable. But then again, neither is the Rolling Stone, I suppose.
I wonder if Don Breithaupt can set us straight?
Date: Wed, May 27, 2020, 21:40:42 ET
Posted by: Detective , SD
According to a 1977 Rolling Stone piece, FM had yet to be composed, let alone recorded by the time Aja was released.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-second-coming-of-steely-dan-189824/
"I arrived at the tiny Malibu guest home of Walter Becker the day Aja was released."
...
"In the meantime, though, Becker and Fagen are staying in L.A. to compose the title song for manager Irving Azoff’s film, FM."
Also, FM has Jeff Porcaro on drums who as far as I know was not on any Aja session recordings. For sure he's not credited on anything. The debut Toto album was being recorded at almost exactly the same time as Aja.
Date: Wed, May 27, 2020, 16:35:28 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. It's Happy Hour
Don, the Henley thing does't seem that odd. He sang background on FM which I understand was recorded during the Aja sessions.
Date: Tues, May 26, 2020, 19:15:41 ET
Posted by: Donald Rumsfeld-Fagen, OK
Without getting into the propriety of putting some (all?) of these items up for sale, they do offer a fascinating look into SD in the 1970s:
1. "Vocalists' payments" to Don Henley for Aja?
https://www.julienslive.com/m/lot-details/index/catalog/320/lot/137868?url=%2Fm%2Fview-auctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F320
2. WB making edits to an article on SD. (No wonder they had no respect for journalists!)
https://www.julienslive.com/m/lot-details/index/catalog/320/lot/137864?url=%2Fm%2Fview-auctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F320
BTW: The edits stuck!
https://danology.blogspot.com/2008/05/img-httpi276.html
Date: Tues, May 26, 2020, 09:31:14 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
Those SD auction items are remarkable. I particularly liked the letters to Irvine Azoff from D&W detailing the expenses/costs for recording Aja, that's a real window into a time and place that I never expected to see in a million years. I notice that all the items seem to come from the estate of Karen Stanley. Sad that a life was cut so short like that.
Thanks for the link Julien
Date: Tues, May 26, 2020, 09:06:56 ET
Posted by: Great, awesome
Love to see Walter Becker's old stuff sold to the highest-paying asshole.
Date: Mon, May 25, 2020, 22:13:33 ET
Posted by: Julien, Buy $tuff
A ton of Steely Dan memorabilia; notes, photos, lyric sheets, promo albums, gold & platinum albums, guitars etc. included in the newest Juliens Auction listing-
https://www.julienslive.com/m/view-auctions/catalog/id/320
More items by The Grateful Dead, Jimi, Joni, Dylan, Elvis, The Who … available to bid on too. Might have to go for Elvis' prescription bottle. Prince's guitar is out of my price range.
Date: Mon, May 25, 2020, 12:14:27 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
Philippe
I first saw The Bible in '85 or '86 when they were supporting China Crisis, another band with a very strong Steely Dan connection.
Their singer/songwriter/guitarist Boo Hewerdine is still very active today playing solo gigs and writing with other artists. If anyone gets the chance to see him they should definitely go along as he is a superb performer and a very funny storyteller.
Great track btw!
Date: Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:22:44 ET
Posted by: Philippe, Pau France
I've always thought it was a new wave group, discovered today it's not, they probably know the Dan discography well : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3dlB0jpUTc
Date: Sun, May 24, 2020, 08:40:10 ET
Posted by: Plastic, Soul Ram in her hand
Hello, this will be my first post here and I just wanted to show you guys a list I compiled recently of Pre-Dan Demo releases.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QCRrdX2mXxhr_zHOPPh_Nl9NzHu77S31YoQ-F3b7CMI/edit?usp=sharing
Though the list is still missing a lot of releases (I presume) I will do my best to update it whenever I learn of another release.
If you would like to help out in this project, just request edit access.
Date: Thurs, May 21, 2020, 14:55:52 ET
Posted by: Matt, walterbeckermedia.com
https://www.walterbeckermedia.com/forum/rarities-unreleased/the-dopest-cut
The Dopest Cut, an early (Signet Studios) whack at Down In The Bottom.
From your friends at walterbeckermedia.com
Date: Wed, May 20, 2020, 13:48:38 ET
Posted by: µ ,
No I'm never gonna do it without the Mask on
Oh no
No I'm never gonna do it without the Mask on
Oh no
That's what I am
Please understand
I want to be your Mystery man
No I'm never gonna do it without the Mask on
Oh no
Ain't never gonna do it without the Mask on
Oh no
That's what I am
Please understand
I want to be your Mystery man
Date: Tues, May 19, 2020, 13:14:14 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Indy: Looking to Next Year for Steely Winwood
They held out, but now have announced the move to 2021...
https://www.jambase.com/band/steely-dan/tour-dates
Hopefully the new dates will have no static, nor require masks, at all!
Date: Mon, May 18, 2020, 17:58:51 ET
Posted by: Danfan, Toronto, Canada
Enjoyed that Jon...thanks so much.
I never get tired of hearing Peg...Great horns & bass.
So sad to hear the show in Toronto is cancelled til 2121.
Looking forward to the summer of 21.
Date: Sat, May 16, 2020, 16:58:47 ET
Posted by: Lee, Tampa
To add to suedave's earlier post, here is part two of the SD songwriting article:
https://americansongwriter.com/steely-dan-part-ii/
Date: Fri, May 15, 2020, 08:19:28 ET
Posted by: Jon, E
Rick & Jerry Marotta on a cover of Peg. Very well done except for that girl ad-libbing distracting vocals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNJ6Gu6xSyM
Date: Fri, May 15, 2020, 02:48:11 ET
Posted by: Dirk,
thinks this has some Donald in it ... leaning more towards the
AOR side ... but nice at all ...check it out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlfy7dnR6pY
Date: Thurs, May 14, 2020, 02:09:50 ET
Posted by: suedave, Still home at last
Nice article about how songs come together, apologies if already posted
https://americansongwriter.com/steely-dan-part-one/
Date: Wed, May 13, 2020, 23:58:44 ET
Posted by: Jump, Train
"Do It Again" played on the recent episode (#5) of HBO's "Run".
Date: Wed, May 13, 2020, 10:43:48 ET
Posted by: Michael, <
Scam artists are commonplace. After he won your trust, he decided to defraud you guys to the tune of $100 a pop. In a just world he would be tracked down and punished for stealing your money.
That being said, I hope your other purchases were worth it. Pretty much everything finds its way on the internet, eventually. Would love to hear the portion of the finished Second Arrangement that survived the purported 'engineering accident'.
Date: Tues, May 12, 2020, 21:27:08 ET
Posted by: Some of us, Have stories we could tell
Yeah...the eBay guy from a few years ago...
Yes, his eBay auctions were legit. I should know - I won several reels - and actually received them. Lucky me - no, really. I got some amazing stuff. I still have it all. Sadly, I don't "upload" to "you-tube", nor do I "face-book" or "twitter", for that matter. But that's a whole 'nother discussion, ain't it? I'd be more than happy to share what I have, but the easy options (see above) are just too fecal for me to even consider.
Anyways, at some point, privately, the eBay guy offered "special" material, outside of eBay. A Sacajawea reel, with CD transfer, for $100.00, anyone? And, of course, some of us (not just me) partook. Outside of eBay. Nothing showed up. No tracking number/no reply/no comprende. Buddy moved to Florida, they say - wait, no, HE said. "Don't worry, your reels are on the way", he said. "I'm in the process of moving, don't worry, you'll get your stuff", he said. You know where this is going, don't you?
So much for that guy. I never did get my shit. I'm not the only one. Is the mysterious eBay seller dead? Prematurely demented? Or just a real sock cucker? I'll leave that for you to decide. I know what I think...
EMMO
Date: Tues, May 12, 2020, 12:01:28 ET
Posted by: Michael, we
Dave, just to hazard a guess, maybe there's a connection between these demo tracks and those reel tapes of SD that went up for auction on ebay several years ago. Who knows what lost artifacts are still floating around? Then again, nobody really knew back in the '70s that all this stuff would be sought after by avid collectors. One can only imagine all the gems that were forever lost to the ravages of time, perhaps much of it due to not living up to D&W's standards.
Date: Tues, May 12, 2020, 09:17:54 ET
Posted by: Nik, c
I admit to having fantasies of having access to all kinds of rarities and posting them online, or being all knowing to write the ultimate tell all book on SD.
Date: Tues, May 12, 2020, 01:34:27 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Oh, my.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxRIZxAHJJM
Date: Sat, May 09, 2020, 15:40:35 ET
Posted by: Nate, PA or someplace
https://youtu.be/q8bfpy40sfI
A new Second Arrangement fragment :o
2020 has been a really good year for Steely Dan fans so far
Date: Sat, May 09, 2020, 09:50:36 ET
Posted by: Dave (from acquisitions), Philadelphia
Now that everyone has seen the YouTube channel of “saltspicious”, does anyone know where this guy is getting these tapes from? As far as I can tell from my own experience and everyone’s reaction on here and in the YouTube comments, this is the first time these tracks have ever seen the light of day for the public.
Date: Sat, May 09, 2020, 02:17:35 ET
Posted by: Hey Covid-19, USA
Took 'em long enough...
**Due to circumstances outside of our control, we regret to inform you that Steely Dan at ACL Live on May 26 and May 27 has been postponed until further notice. Hang on to your tickets! We'll email purchasers as soon as new dates are announced, and the tickets you've already got will still get you into the rescheduled show.**
**OK, May 29-Event Canceled
The event organizer has had to cancel your event.
Refunds available at point of purchase. Online and phone orders: Sign in to your account to access your tickets and see your available refund and/or credit options. Otherwise, you should expect to receive your refund in as soon as 30 days.**
Although all other dates beginning in June are still on-sale via Ticketmaster.com, expect cancel/postponed announcements early next week.
Date: Fri, May 08, 2020, 21:36:21 ET
Posted by: Nate, PA or someplace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ_CcrJrSro&feature=youtu.be
More Royal Scam Outtakes. This time, two alternate Sign In Stranger outtakes that are different than what's heard on the already circulated Royal Scam outtakes.
(And no, it's not the Donald Fagen getting killed by a gorilla video again, I promise)
Date: Fri, May 08, 2020, 12:36:53 ET
Posted by: Nate, PA or someplace
I'm sure that video of Donald getting killed by a gorilla would have ended up here one way or another, just didn't think it would be me posting it here. Oops!
Date: Thurs, May 07, 2020, 09:07:41 ET
Posted by: Big Trev, Barcelona
Haha Steve that's great! You've probably found the real link by now but if you haven't here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNyD844iAXc
There have been quite a few Steely Dan nuggets appearing recently but for me this is the best of the bunch. A glimpse of great music being created. And they seem to be having fun!
Not sure where this stuff is coming from but I hope this well never runs dry.
I hope you're all keeping well.
Date: Thurs, May 07, 2020, 07:47:48 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
Nate
That link is taking me to a spoof youtube video reporting 'Donald Fagen Killed by Gorilla'
....I shit you not!
Date: Wed, May 06, 2020, 23:34:08 ET
Posted by: Nate, PA or someplace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mjC4P7Ve_w
Two Outtakes of Green Earrings
Date: Wed, May 06, 2020, 16:09:44 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Always relevant. Now more than ever...he he
https://youtu.be/D-FhtoTeSrI
...
And all at once am privy to
The entire grim design
Of a great civilization
In the terminal stages
Of a slow but steady mental moral spiritual decline
And so it goes
And thus it is written
And all I want to know is
Where does a guy like me fit in?
So I'm visualizing a cute little bunny
With a fluffy white tail and long grey floppy ears
Who looks up at me and says, Doc don't you worry
All you got to do is, hide in here
[here. hide in here, hide in here]
Date: Wed, May 06, 2020, 13:17:45 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Nicholas: Very nice! haha
Date: Tues, May 05, 2020, 10:29:18 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Hunkered Down in Phraxos
Doc Mu, you got me to thinking...
Coronavirus
Would you make me wash my hands
Coronavirus
Would you distance six foot stands
Can you show me
I need to wear a mask
And did you come from China
Can you show me
Coronavirus
Coronavirus
I haven't left my house in town
Coronavirus
I've got social distance down
And I'll be there
Washing all my hands
Coughing in my elbow
Yes I'll be there
Coronavirus
Date: Tues, May 05, 2020, 07:14:22 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
Well done, Doc Mu. Made me laugh this morning.
Date: Mon, May 04, 2020, 21:46:44 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Johnny's playroom
Is a bunker filled with supplies
Even got goggles for his eyes
He’s a Quarantined Man
Clorox Sunday
He's been mobilized since dawn
Now in mask for a Walmart run
He's a Quarantined man
Soon you'll throw down your PPEs
Can I inject this Fabreze?
By and by
When restaurants are safe
For social distancing
I saw the virus
I believed that I was dreaming
Till the patients came out screaming
He's a Quarantined Man
Soon you'll throw your Wuhan hat
Escape from your one room flat
By and by
When Home Depot is safe
For the little guy
When he's blogging out
I just sing that COVID rondo
E' un quarantena del mondo
He's a Quarantined Man
He's a Quarantined Man
He's a Quarantined Man
He's a Quarantined Man
Date: Mon, May 04, 2020, 18:12:02 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, breathing air blowing in Houston in the Texas sun
Hey Bob: Two takes.
https://youtu.be/N01RFpaez84
Date: Sat, May 02, 2020, 23:53:29 ET
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Date: Sat, May 02, 2020, 20:43:33 ET
Posted by: Bip,
Dylan's comments were discussed here when it came out five years ago. Still, interesting to revisit today. There's also another quote from several years before that. Dylan doesn't especially sound like a Steely Dan fan.
Of course, after Gaucho, Donald made it public that he would like to be in Dylan's touring band. He never heard back.
Also, as most of us know, SD's first album supposedly takes its title from a Dylan lyric. Dylan was not especially impressed about that either.
Back to the article brought up below. I think Dylan is critical of the lack of spontaneity in a Steely Dan recording. Just a guess on my part. I have a feeling others here will have more incisive interpretations or perspectives.
Date: Sat, May 02, 2020, 16:08:21 ET
Posted by: Zip, Skip
Had never heard a Dylan quote about SD before.
https://www.stereogum.com/1738122/bob-dylan-downplays-merle-haggard-diss-praises-springsteen-maintains-that-steely-dan-is-not-rock-in-musicares-postmortem/news/
Date: Sat, May 02, 2020, 11:13:17 ET
Posted by: SDA, hjjj
How are you expecting somebody to answer that Steve? "Albums 1,2, and 4 sound best on 8 track and albums 3 and 6 on CD except that track 4 on album 3 sounds best on vinyl unless you're west of the Mississippi and at an altitude of over 2000 ft, in which case you should hang yourself upside down while listening to the quadraphonic mix for best listening."
The simple answer is, the better overall quality of your equipment and the source material, the better the listen.
I got the MFSL Aja CD in 1988, and it was so much better than those first generation MCA CDs. But I had a pretty high end stereo to take advantage of it. When DVD-A and SACD were introduced, people thought they could invest a couple hundred $ in a player and they would be blown away by the difference in sound quality out of their otherwise mundane stereo.
Date: Fri, May 01, 2020, 14:40:34 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
Hi
I've been meaning to ask this for a while now and I suppose the time afforded to me due to lockdown has raised the issue again.
So, just what is the best way to listen to Steely Dan?
I first got into them in 1979, the year I left school. I had little or no money so bought most of the original albums from second hand shops on vinyl and played them on my scuzzy cheap stereo with a worn out needle. Aja and Katy Lied were bought new for me by my parents for Christmas 1981, I stil remember the joy of listening to them on pristine vinyl over that winter.
I think The Nightfly was originally on C-90 cassette taped from a friends vinyl copy on one of those stereos with a turntable and an intergrated tape player.
Then, inevitably I bought a bunch of CD's and eventually got the Citizen Steely Dan box set from my wife as another Xmas present. Recently I've been listening mainly to downloaded Mp3 files on my computer speakers and I think the last purchase of Circus Money was an official download. Sunken Condos was still a CD.
So, the picture that emerges is that I have been listening to the greatest music ever created in a long series of sub-optimal formats for the last 40 years. All Donald, Walter, Gary Katz, Roger Nichols and Elliot Scheiner's efforts have essentially been wasted on me!
What would people recommend then as the best format to listen to our heroes? I'm dimly aware that there were some releases on DVD A. Would FLAC files be noticably better then Mp3's? or, are we talking about a return to vinyl and investment in a turntable, amp and speakers?
Obviously there is the whole other question of what to play stuff on once I have the best format but at the grand old age of 57 I'm probably ready to make one last investment both in equipment and purchasing the music (again for at least the 3rd time!)before my hearing finally deteriorates to a point where these kind of issues become moot!
All advice gratefully received as usual. And it would be cool just to hear how everyone hear listens to their daily fix of D&W.
Date: Fri, May 01, 2020, 11:56:21 ET
Posted by: Gil, NH
If DF claims to be hunkering down in NYC, there's a 95% chance he's lying.
Date: Thurs, April 30, 2020, 15:43:17 ET
Posted by: Ben Jammin, Chillin' in Indy
Yay! Donald's here!
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/donald-fagen-on-life-in-quarantine-991723/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=exacttarget&utm_campaign=RollingStone_Daily&utm_content=203934_04-30-2020_donald-fagen-is-keeping-his-sense-o&utm_term=3632402
Date: Mon, April 27, 2020, 19:34:14 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
MAI TEM BAHT: Thanks - pretty snappy number. The duel steel slide harmonizing guitar thing reminds me of One of These Nights, 4 years before the Iggles recorded it. I wonder if Don Henley Bernie Leadon, or Don Felder snuck into the vault...
https://youtu.be/ESc2Tq2HzhQ
Date: Mon, April 27, 2020, 19:15:14 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
erratum:
ROB Mounsey
Date: Mon, April 27, 2020, 19:14:18 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
If that's Jerry Marotta, he would have just finished the session where Hugh Padgham, Jerry and Phil Collins "invented" the gated drum sound for the Melt album by Peter Gabriel!
Rick's TOOM drums were destined for WENDEL looping and massaging. "The Birth of the Cruel" as Walter penned it on the Gaucho liner notes. So the folks that really invented (for better and worse) the sound of the 80s are there in the same control room, watching brother Rick, Rick Mounsey on piano and Hugh McCracken on guitar go to work. Walter dubbed in the bass track later.
Walter: How ya doing Jerry.
Jerry: Hi, Walter.
Walter: What's going on?
Jerry: Not much (muffled)
Walter: Ya been working?
Jerry: Yeah
Walter: Here or abroaaaad?
Jerry: Abroad
Walter: Uh huh. How was it?
Jerry: Good. Real good.
That's it! *I'm dying* lol
No wonder Walter and Donald kinda slunk away and sat out most of the 80s ;)
"Our work is done!"
Date: Mon, April 27, 2020, 18:22:01 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Nate, More, everyone:
During the break Walter's talking to a "Jerry" who sounds like they're from Jersey or somewhere like that. "Jerry" has been working abroad.
I assume Jerry Marotta? Older brother Rick is playing on the TOOM track. Jerry played with Peter Gabriel during that time.
Date: Mon, April 27, 2020, 18:03:44 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
More: I hear the reel to reel whirring and am thinking - with their luck they were fortunate that the tape didn't snap, or worse shred! lol
Date: Mon, April 27, 2020, 17:59:01 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu , Left of the Rio Grande and NE of China Grove
Steve M: Sounds like Steely Don - could be the accent. ;)
...or maybe that's right because the chord progression a 1:11 is eerily similar to The Nightfly title track!
...and yes the Intro sounds like we're going to hear a cover of Glamour Profession.
Date: Fri, April 24, 2020, 04:13:34 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
It's Green Book and Green Flower Street
GFS was easy enough, 'lovers' was the trigger
GB took a bit of head scratching but 'Neon' gave it away
oddly, it didn't enter my head to think which songs had 'Green' in the title.
Date: Wed, April 22, 2020, 17:27:41 ET
Posted by: sanity, quiz
What two songs share these words
Neon
Sweet
Green
Lovers
Date: Tues, April 21, 2020, 23:57:51 ET
Posted by: Nate, PA
Thank you for that link Mr. More?
That wouldn’t happen to be that link that’s hidden behind a username and password along with a picture of Donald throwing a whiffle ball found on Larry Franke’s website would it? That aside this recording is pretty cool to hear getting to hear the behind the scenes of the making of Gaucho. If only we could hear more.
Date: Tues, April 21, 2020, 20:42:55 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
Inside Man. Thanks for the great link. Fabulous.
Date: Tues, April 21, 2020, 20:16:58 ET
Posted by: Inside Man, Stay Safe Everyone
The Fabriani Bros. present “The Covid Kid”... for MusiCares
(An homage to Becker and Fagen's "Home At Last".)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Ck5R_K__U
Music - Steve Porcaro
Lyrics - David Kamp
Lead vocals - Billy Sherwood
Keys - Steve Porcaro
Guitars - Denny Dias and Marc Bonilla
Drums - Shannon Forrest (channeling Jeff Porcaro's groove)
Date: Tues, April 21, 2020, 15:52:34 ET
Posted by: more, stuff
Recording of a Gaucho session.
http://www.larryfranke.com/fb2/tom.mp3
Date: Mon, April 20, 2020, 19:47:54 ET
Posted by: MAI TEM BAHT, PHUKET
Sorry if this has already been posted.
New, previously unheard outtake from Can't Buy a Thrill:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tUsAYk3SOzoUWzwLSpG9X8ptTI2Q_oQr
Date: Mon, April 20, 2020, 19:31:23 ET
Posted by: Napoleon, UK
Steve,
I think you're right. Didn't notice first time round. I just kept singing 'under the suuuuunnnnn Boys'.
Date: Mon, April 20, 2020, 16:28:09 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
am I hearing things or does that Makoto Matsushita track actually namecheck Steely Dan at about 1.16?
Date: Mon, April 20, 2020, 12:22:26 ET
Posted by: Napoleon, UK
Hello everybody,
I was listening to Worldwide FM (worth a listen) and this Makoto Matsushita record came on called 'Lazy Day'
https://youtu.be/A3AE1MYMHTw
I've never heard a more blatant SD/Fagen rip off in my life. Still a good track though.
Also, there's a new White Denim track that reminds me of older, quirky SD called Queen of the Quarantine (Lyrics and horn parts specifically)
https://youtu.be/FXQfh1DwyZo
Anyway, hope everyone is holding up okay. Stay safe.
Nap
Date: Sun, April 19, 2020, 14:29:24 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
Just about hear where you're coming from with the H Gang comparison Eurolurker. It was a good excuse to play H Gang again for a wee listen, I haven't actively sought out that track for ages. I think Morph might legitimately be classed as the forgotten genius album in the SD/DF repertoire, it is just so good! True story, a couple of months ago I was having trouble sleeping, it was about 3.00am and the phrase 'Rabelaisian puff of smoke' came into my mind from some hitherto unplumbed depth of my (semi)consciousness. 2 bloody hours I was awake trying to figure out where that came from, thank you Donald!
Date: Sun, April 19, 2020, 10:01:31 ET
Posted by: Eurolurker, Ireland
Sorry, meant H Gang.
Date: Sun, April 19, 2020, 09:28:05 ET
Posted by: Eurolurker, Ireland
Great song. Anyone else hear echoes of Miss Marlene?
Date: Sat, April 18, 2020, 15:20:10 ET
Posted by: suedave, self isolation
Thanks Nate for sharing! Good find.
Date: Fri, April 17, 2020, 12:32:50 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
Thanks for that Nate, it's not everyday one gets to hear a Steely Dan song I've never heard (or indeed heard of) before. Very cool!
Date: Fri, April 17, 2020, 11:20:42 ET
Posted by: Nate, PA
Hello All! It’s been a fat minute since I posted here! (I think 2018 when I went to my first Dan concert was when I was last here)
Anyway I’ll cut to the chase.
If any of you don’t browse the Steely Dan subreddit or are apart of the Dan Discord, one of the members was able to get Sacajawea to resurface with the use of a missing Steely Dan songs list.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VzRk50lBeCese6bPFMncA5EBkaWrzG7p/view?usp=drivesdk
Date: Tues, April 14, 2020, 18:20:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. It's Happy Hour
For you Snarky Puppy fans, Michael League and Victor Wooten present Low End Theory. There are a series of online live shows scheduled. Donation of whatever you want to give.
I missed it yesterday, but live streams are scheduled for:
4/15 @3pm (EST)
4/17 @3pm
4/18 @3pm
And before anyone asks, I have no idea if they are the same show being streamed or new shows. It says "Streaming Live" but that could just be a mistake. If anyone has more/better info, please let us know. It will be appreciated.
https://www.bandsintown.com/a/49456-snarky-puppy?came_from=294&utm_medium=web&utm_source=artist_event_streaming_page&utm_campaign=artist
Date: Sun, April 12, 2020, 04:42:04 ET
Posted by: Greenprint g, green
... and if the price is different for honest ones versus BS
Date: Sat, April 11, 2020, 16:55:30 ET
Posted by: DonB, Los Angeles
The new issue of West Coast magazine just dropped, and it contains an extensive Monkey House interview (w/ Becker, Fagen + Fogel discussion), plus a rave review of Friday, plus a lot of other premium Dan-adjacent content. Get your copy here:
https://www.musicfromthewestcoast.com/store/c1/Featured_Products.html?fbclid=IwAR3nMYkwvbuWwVPVkgRGZAPp6KEoUfu77_0z3ab_WnxLR-z-C-1yVeQG0zU#/
Date: Sat, April 11, 2020, 10:51:40 ET
Posted by: Blueprint, b
Wonder if Fagen has a price for providing lyrical revelations to a major publication?
Date: Wed, April 08, 2020, 13:33:35 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
Hard to believe another one of us is gone - too soon. Fife was so much fun to be with. A lovely person.
Gretchen, I hope you are well.
Take care everyone.
Date: Wed, April 08, 2020, 11:18:32 ET
Posted by: Gretchen, Old Saybrook, CT
Very sad day. I met Fife here on the Bluebook in 2003, and spent many hours in the Green Room chatting before we met in person in 2004. We had many great adventures, traveling to concerts, visits to each other's homes, and phone calls for hours. I remember in particular one wonderful trip with Fionna and Sam to see one of Levon Helm's Midnight Rambles featuring Donald Fagen. She was kind and generous, a great friend, cook, and music lover. Rest in peace, Fionna, you were truly loved. If you believe in forever, there's one hell of a Danfest going on over the bridge.
Date: Wed, April 08, 2020, 08:05:48 ET
Posted by: BPB, FF
Here's that isolated backing Mike M vocal track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0u_JlK8JhI
Date: Wed, April 08, 2020, 06:56:18 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Hunkered Down with the WSJ
Article in Wall Street Journal about Peg. WSJ has the occasional Steely Dan article. Seems ironic.
Jim, if posting the entire article isn't allowed, I apologize, and please remove.
By Marc Myers
April 7, 2020 11:08 am ET
Long considered Steely Dan’s best and most intriguing album, “Aja” remained at No. 3 on the Billboard chart for seven consecutive weeks in 1977.
The album produced three hit singles. “Peg” was the first, peaking at No. 11 on Billboard’s pop chart. The song’s funky blues and enigmatic lyrics epitomized the atmospheric jazz-rock sound pioneered by the band’s Donald Fagen and the late Walter Becker.
Recently, Mr. Fagen, the song’s co-writer and lead vocalist, revisited the hit, along with background vocalist Michael McDonald, guitarist Jay Graydon and saxophonist Tom Scott. Mr. Fagen and Steely Dan hope to tour nationally with Steve Winwood later this year. Edited from interviews:
Donald Fagen: Like most of the songs Walter [Becker] and I wrote for Steely Dan, “Peg” wasn’t planned out. It emerged from a blues riff I was working on and old movies Walter and I watched over the years.
“Peg” began at home in Malibu in 1976. I was fooling around on my little upright piano, trying to figure out ways to arrange a blues like the ones I heard on Blue Note albums by jazz musicians like Horace Silver, that had lots of fascinating chord changes.
Eventually, I came up with a riff that had a major-7 feel. Then Walter came over with his guitar. He suggested a chorus and a few other changes. Next, we turned to the lyrics.
I had an “All About Eve” idea. Unlike in the movie, where Bette Davis’s young assistant, Eve, manipulates her way to stardom, the main character in our song is the one with starlet fever. On her way up, she ditched her boyfriend.
Imagine that “Peg” takes place at a seedy photo shoot in L.A. in the 1950s. All of the lyrics are from the perspective of the jilted boyfriend, who was still hanging around.
The scene is seedy because show business is seedy. Even what most people think are the heights of show business still has the seediness of a vaudeville dressing room.
The name we came up with for the starlet was Peg. There’s no hidden meaning. We just wanted a dotted half note for that spot and Peg was short enough to fit with the music.
The song’s lyrics open with the ex-boyfriend watching the starlet posing for pin-up photos:
“I’ve seen your picture / your name in lights above it / This is your big debut / it’s like a dream come true / So won’t you smile for the camera / I know they’re gonna love it.”
In the second verse, the ex is thinking back on their relationship. The ex kept one of her glossy photos in his drawer with a Dear John letter she sent him. But Walter and I didn’t want to use “pin-up.” It didn’t sing well. So we shortened it to “pin shot,” a neologism that was even seedier than pin-up:
“I like your pin shot / I keep it with your letter / Done up in blueprint blue / it sure looks good on you / And when you smile for the camera / I know I’ll love you better.”
As for “blueprint blue,” I took a mechanical engineering class in high school. I was terrible at it, but I loved the ammonia smell that came from the machine printing the blueprints.
Walter and I threw the lines back and forth and laughed at the ones we came up with. We liked creating the sensation of a story through word fragments that weren’t too literal.
The chorus that followed was a kind of a karmic “you’ll get yours” thing. Like, “What you’ve done to me will come back to you”:
“Peg, it will come back to you / Then, the shutter falls / You see it all in 3-D / It’s your favorite foreign movie.”
The chorus is about how the guy is imagining how things will turn out for the starlet down the road. The first line is a variation on “what goes up must come down.”
The second line is cinematic. The click of the camera’s shutter changes the scene to some point in the future.
Then the third and fourth lines imagine the starlet’s washed-up scenarios—appearing in a cheesy 3-D film. Or she’s in someone’s favorite foreign movie, a big come-down.
And that was it. The song was compact and minimalist—two verses and a chorus that repeat. Then Walter and I turned to the instrumentation and arrangement.
In early ’77, when we were ready to record “Aja,” we flew to New York to record “Peg” at A&R Studios. We wanted a rhythm section with a sophisticated, aggressive feel.
We used drummer Rick Marotta. We liked his sound on Aretha Franklin’s 1974 album, “Let Me in Your Life.” He was a very soulful player.
We knew electric pianist Paul Griffin from New York. Keyboardist Don Grolnick and bassist Chuck Rainey had been on our previous album, “The Royal Scam.”
The instrumental sound picture for “Peg” was light but mysterious. The intro needed a film-like caper quality—slightly whimsical but dark.
Steely Dan performing in London in 1974, Michael McDonald at left and Donald Fagen at right.
PHOTO: MICHAEL PUTLAND/GETTY IMAGES
For our intro, I had Paul play the Fender Rhodes electric piano and Don play the clavinet in unison. We liked the odd sound of those two keyboards pressed together—the smoothness of one against the funkiness of the other.
Rick hit the bass drum only on the second beat, to build suspense. Steve Kahn filled the spaces on the intro by playing open chords on his rhythm guitar. Then he played a riff in the verses.
Chuck’s bass was rock steady. He liked using his thumb on the E string and got some great popping effects. Listen to his bass on “Peg”—it’s full of life.
When we finished recording the basic rhythm track, we returned to L.A. to overdub additional instruments for texture. Saxophonist Tom Scott told us he had this new electronic wind instrument called a lyricon. It sort of sounded like an alto sax but warmer and not as shrill. We liked it.
Tom Scott: The lyricon looked like a soprano sax and plugged into a small synthesizer console built into its case. I adjusted the console’s bars and switches to give it a synth-generated sound of that era, adding my distinctive wind and breath nuances.
At L.A.’s Village Recorder studio, Donald and Walter knew what they wanted and where in the song they wanted me to play. I played my lick after Donald sings, “I keep it with your letter” and in the middle of “It sure looks good on you.”
Mr. Fagen: Initially, the guitar solo we wanted in the middle of the song was problematic. Walter took a shot, but he didn’t like what he played. Then we went through about a half-dozen studio guitarists without any luck.
The guitarists were all perfectly good improvisers, but we wanted a set piece. Someone suggested Jay Graydon.
Jay Graydon: After I got the call, I brought my 1964 Gibson ES-335 and Fender Deluxe amp. My solo was recorded in three parts.
I played what sounded like a steel-guitar lick with pretty blues notes. Donald and Walter loved that.
Whatever I played after that they didn’t dig. So we kept the first part and I took a chance and went up the neck, bent notes and ran down with an arpeggio. They liked that, too.
For the third section, Donald asked me to play something fast. So I played a fast ascending lick and then walked my way back down the neck.
Walter Becker, left, Michael McDonald, center, and Donald Fagen on keyboard playing in 2016 at the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival.
PHOTO: JEFF KRAVITZ/FILMMAGIC/GETTY IMAGES
Mr. Fagen: Because Jay’s solo section contains an unprepared change in modes, it was almost a Stravinsky-like moment. You can hear Jay felt that solo emotionally. For background on the chorus, Walter and I had planned to handle the harmony instrumentally with four saxes. But Michael McDonald was still working with us so we decided instead to create the harmony by overdubbing four Michael McDonalds.
Michael McDonald: In the studio, Donald instructed me along the way from the piano on the harmony notes he wanted me to sing behind his vocal.
But instead of recording one note and then recording the next while listening to the first through headphones, I cheated. I said to Donald, “Give me the notes individually and let me record each one without hearing the others.”
This let me sing my background lyrics in pitch, without being thrown by the density. I kept the harmony lyrics simple:
“Peg! Peg!/ Then, shutter falls / All in 3-D / Foreign movie—Peg!”
Mr. Fagen: The notes I gave Michael were tightly spaced, producing a thick sound. Michael has this amazing tone. We liked how he echoed the lyric.
After Walter became ill, just before he died in 2017, I did a U.K. summer tour without him. It was rough. I could feel his absence most strongly then. But over time, the present kind of absorbs the past.
Walter and I were very proud of “Peg.” Unlike some of our other stuff, we felt we achieved a special simplicity with the song. And it’s easy on the ears. Walter liked that.
Date: Tues, April 07, 2020, 22:24:04 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
RIP Fife. Very sad. I did not know her, but appreciated her contribution to The Blue and the Dandom community.
RIP to Prine and Willner. John was one of my all time faves. Huge loss.
Date: Tues, April 07, 2020, 21:39:19 ET
Posted by: Sad, Again
Hal Willner, Music Producer and Longtime ‘SNL’ Music Supervisor, Dead at 64
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/hal-willner-obituary-979949/
Willner produced the 1984 compilation paying tribute to Thelonius Monk entitled, "That's The Way I Feel Now." Significant to us because it included one of the rare Fagen releases during the drought of the mid- to late-1980s, the instrumental "Reflections" with Steve Kahn.
Date: Tues, April 07, 2020, 21:36:51 ET
Posted by: Sad, sometimes you cry a river, sometimes you cry a freight train
John Prine, RIP. A real character and a storyteller, just like Walter.
John Prine, Who Chronicled the Human Condition in Song, Dies at 73
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/arts/music/john-prine-dead.html
Date: Tues, April 07, 2020, 21:27:36 ET
Posted by: Dave, NJ
Very sorry to hear about Fife. She was an excellent cook and, as previously mentioned, was very active in the setting up Danfests back when tours only rolled around every few years. I would show up at them at eat the food she and others worked hard to prepare. And these were in NY and CT, well away from her home in Baltimore. I believe the first one was at the Beacon Hotel, adjacent to the theater before the infamous Marthagate show in '06 and several others going into the summer tour with Mike M. Before a show later that summer at what used to be the Trump Taj Mahal, I invited her and her husband out for a prime rib dinner telling her it was the least I could do for all the Danfests I free loaded at.
Sadly, the 2014 show in Atlantic City was the last time I saw her and Steely Doc. It was the night she finally got to meet DF.
Date: Tues, April 07, 2020, 19:15:51 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Fife was a good friend to me and my wife. We met initially at the Rarities weekend,and her friendly spirit was all encompassing. But I knew her on the Blue much earlier. As a fellow Canuck, we connected on more than things Dan. Always ready for a party, she was "outside" with me at many preshow Danfests. Those of us who knew her, will miss her greatly.
Rest in peace Fife.
Peace
Date: Tues, April 07, 2020, 15:47:40 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Sorry to report that Fionna, aka Fife, Passed away today, after bravely battling cancer last several months. Among other things, she met her husband, Sam, here on the BlueBook. She hosted many wonderful danfests through the years, especially those in the Baltimore/DC area.
I was in touch with Fionna over the Internet for some years before I actually met her. I was expecting her to be a wonderwaif with a petite voice. Then I was at a Danfest where I was going to meet her. I heard a voice that sounded like a Ruth Pointer (lead singer on the Pointer Sisters' hit, "Automatic.") from across the room call out my name. She said she'd be right over after she got a drink and a smoke. It was all very funny. Somehow, I think she'd get a kick out of me recalling that. It was always funny and entertaining to be around her that way. Sending lots and lots of love always. 🙏☮️💟
Jim
aka hoops
Date: Tues, April 07, 2020, 13:33:17 ET
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Date: Sun, April 05, 2020, 20:20:50 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Great to see you posting on the Blue again Pete! And to all of Dandom,stay safe, follow the rules, and we can look forward to meeting each other at shows down the road.
Peace
Date: Sun, April 05, 2020, 20:16:05 ET
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Date: Sun, April 05, 2020, 17:39:56 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach. It's Happy Hour
Pete,
Great story. Thanks for sharing. Hoping you and Shari are doing well though all this.
Date: Sun, April 05, 2020, 16:35:32 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Nice pic of Walter Becker Way in Queens - 72nd Drive
https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/walter-becker-way-nyc-steelydan-2/
Date: Sun, April 05, 2020, 16:35:30 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Nice pic of Walter Becker Way in Queens - 72nd Drive
https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/walter-becker-way-nyc-steelydan-2/
Date: Sun, April 05, 2020, 11:18:42 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Crouching in my apartment
I'm listening to Monkey House's Friday this morning, and five minutes after the above post, I hear the shout-out to Pete Fogel in Island Off the Coast of America.
Ring the bell
And ask for Mr. Fogel
Pedro's in control
Date: Sun, April 05, 2020, 11:07:37 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Hunkered Down
We sift through much drivel on the Blue, including my posts, but when something like Mr. Fogel's post shows up, we remember why we're here.
Many thanks, Pete.
Date: Sun, April 05, 2020, 08:21:27 ET
Posted by: Ric, C
Great story Pete.
But what is SIR?
Date: Sat, April 04, 2020, 21:04:35 ET
Posted by: pete, nyc
Hey guys......Did you know that Bill Withers was scheduled to be part of the NY Rock & Soul Revue?
In 1990, before Steely Dan reunited, Donald Fagen put together "The New York Rock & Soul Revue". The show's format was a round robin of artists that Fagen hand picked to perform covers of iconic (and not so iconic) soul songs of the past. They had a very successful show earlier that year at the Beacon Theater in NYC, which was recorded for a live album. The show featured the likes of Phoebe Snow, Charles Brown, Michael McDonald, Boz Scaggs, etc. Later that year, (August 1990) Fagen wanted to try the Revue at a small high school auditorium in Southampton. It was only going to be a two night run. Boz and McDonald weren't available, so, to everyone's surprise, Fagen recruited the great Bill Withers! Bill was famous for having really bad stage fright, which is why everyone was so shocked that he committed to the show. As a matter of fact, it was such a coup, the gigs would now be billed as, "Donald Fagen & Bill Withers New York Rock & Soul Revue". There was to be a week's worth of rehearsals in NYC before the shows in Southampton. As fate would have it, Mr. Withers was staying at The Mayflower Hotel on Central Park West. Well, I just happened to be the bartender at the Mayflower in 1990.
After rehearsals at SIR, Bill would come to the hotel bar to unwind and have a few cocktails. The first time we met at the Mayflower bar, of course I told him what a big fan I was, and he shook my hand and was very gracious. I always kept a few issues of the Steely Dan Fanzine, "Metal Leg" that I produced at the time behind the bar. As I handed Bill an issue, I told him that I was going to cover the two shows for the fanzine and was very excited to see him perform with Fagen. As the week went by, each day after rehearsal, Bill would come in and tell about how it was going. As he felt more comfortable with me, he would give me more info about the show; which songs they were going to play, who was taking which solos, what other performers he was impressed with. (He LOVED Catherine Russell). He was very outgoing and extremely nice to me. I kept thinking to myself, does this guy really have bad stage fright? He seemed so cool and comfortable around me, and I was an obsessed fan...lol. It was hard to believe that he was scared to play in front of an audience. A few days before the Southampton show, I asked Bill a favor. I told him that Fagen knew who I was and asked him if he could ask Donald for a photo/press pass for me. Bill said "sure" and told me the next day that Donald said no problem, and the photo pass would be at will call. I thanked him very much and told him that I would see him in Southampton. He said great and told me he was having a blast at rehearsals and couldn't wait!
The night of the show arrives, and I'm standing on the side of the stage with my camera ready to rock and roll! The show starts and Donald begins to invite each performer out to do a song. As Donald goes to introduce Bill for the first time of the night, the stage manger comes over to Fagen and whispers something into his ear. Donald announces to the crowd that Bill Withers was about to come out but there would be a delay with his first performance. About 30 minutes goes by and Fagen looks at his watch and says, Where's Bill Withers"? Ends up Bill was hiding in his dressing room and wouldn't come out! As the road manager was going to plead with him to come to the stage, Bill darts out the stage door to a waiting car and yells to the driver, "GO!" All I kept thinking about was our week long conversation about the show and how excited he was to do it. I mean, he even flew in from LA. Anyway, that's my Bill Withers story. He was a gentleman..Pete Fogel
Date: Fri, April 03, 2020, 18:16:23 ET
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Date: Thurs, April 02, 2020, 17:21:44 ET
Posted by: Ivy,
No one mentioned the actual Dan-Adam Schlesenger connection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS-9BXdeSaE
Date: Thurs, April 02, 2020, 16:56:38 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Almost forgot.
There's the song Hackensack...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVoFq7zc5po
Date: Thurs, April 02, 2020, 16:34:34 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Steve,
Halley's Waitress is a great song - must be all the major 7th, Csus2 and stuff that draws the comparison. There are some "Beatle chords" (ex. G6) mixed in. It sounds to me more like Steely Dan filtered through Ben Folds.
https://youtu.be/cluXWn4_Y6g
Anyway, Welcome Interstate Managers is a great album. I think I remember Schlesinger citing Steely Dan as an influence...maybe the sense of humor He was prolific behind the scenes and actually wrote Neil Patrick Harris' opening for the Tonys.
https://slate.com/culture/2020/04/adam-schlesinger-dead-crazy-ex-girlfriend-fountains-of-wayne.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BHyfYiBt5o
Date: Thurs, April 02, 2020, 15:01:03 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
Add Ellis Marsalis to those who have succumbed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/arts/music/ellis-marsalis-dead-virus.html
Date: Thurs, April 02, 2020, 13:57:30 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
Shocked and gutted to hear about Adam Schlesinger's passing Doc Mu. I'm a huge FoW fan and always hoped they would get back together for another album, nobody else can compete in terms of witty, intelligent, melodic, well-crafted pop music (well, almost no-one).
One of their tunes "Halley's Waitress" picked up some comments comparing it to Steely Dan. Don't hear it myself but it's a lovely song, so here it is!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=274CB0VL7_4
ps: really liked that Selena track too.
Date: Thurs, April 02, 2020, 12:17:40 ET
Posted by: Les, R
RIP Bucky Pizzarelli. Played guitar on the Drifter's version of Ruby Baby. He son John covered Walk Between Raindrops and The Goodbye Look.
I hope that's the last RIP for NJ born musicians for a while.
Date: Thurs, April 02, 2020, 11:19:45 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
RIP Adam Schlesinger, leader singer and guitarists from the Fountain of Wayne who died from COVID-19.
While Schlesinger and Fountains of Wayne are best known for their hit Stacy's mom he was quite a clever songwriter with wry, irreverent humor and irony wrapped in power pop chops. Schlesinger wrote and sang That Thing you do for the movie with Tom Hanks about the one hit The Oneders or or is it Wonders, w/e.
The Fountains of Wayne drummer got an unnamed "shout out" from Don Breithaupt and Monkey House on "What Exactly Is It That You Do All Day?"
"Your boyfriend, the drummer
The Fountains of Wayne
Doing Cocaine
and your oldest friend Jane
(shit just wasn't right)"
Date: Thurs, April 02, 2020, 07:02:39 ET
Posted by: Aja, dime dancing
Up on the hill, they've got time to burn
There's no return
Date: Wed, April 01, 2020, 02:17:51 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Left of the Rio Grande
So I'm digging briefly into Selena Quintanilla's (Selena) crossover, unfinished and recorded a month before when was tragically shot by her batsh*t crazy fan manager. The Tejano stuff is great as always with complex rhythms.
Dreaming of You and I Could Fall in Love are very well-crafted pop ditties and sung flawlessly. Kinda light, though. I never purchased the album, but in perusing her live performances, I realize she's a diva. World class. So, I pursued through the crossover side one and stumble right into 2 Monster R&B performances/recordings. For programmed grooves they are wide like the Dan or Boz and Porcaro's Lowdown.
Really? - tripped up by a funky mu major chord (0:23) to commence the verse and a slew of major and minor 7ths. Even the programmed bass has a touch of Walter Down at the Bottom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhtHwnZK_k0
Kinda unexpected and kinda Badass - why the hell weren't these the lead singles? Pretty good for pop. They'd blow away all the autotuned soulless crap on the radio today. Admittedly a sucker for some R&B that digs deep.
Check out the growl in the outtro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ_11-0qtZE
Date: Wed, April 01, 2020, 00:12:18 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
Zen,
Thanks. That was nice.
Date: Tues, March 31, 2020, 19:13:49 ET
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Date: Tues, March 31, 2020, 16:05:31 ET
Posted by: Zen Jammin, Hunkering Down Indy-Style
Hello DanDom Friends!
I hope you and yours are doing as well as possible during these trying times. What parties we'll have when we are able! I've already thought about how extra-special it will be to see Steely D again. Here's an article about Bodhisattva (not the Jam):
https://mariashriver.com/the-bodhisattva-response-to-coronavirus/
Luv-Hugz-Health-Faith!
Date: Sun, March 29, 2020, 20:10:47 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, an independent station
If you want an audiophile quality jazz streaming - a robust 320 kbps:
https://somehowjazz.com/audiophile-quality-stream/
Date: Sun, March 29, 2020, 19:14:24 ET
Posted by: Savoy, S
Either way you're bound to function
52nd Street's the junction.
https://youtu.be/IejpzbxKUZE?t=219
Turn on captions to read along
Date: Sat, March 28, 2020, 13:13:02 ET
Posted by: Fred, CT
Some footage of Carlock putting down drum tracks for the Toto album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDFfDHffXaM
Date: Thurs, March 26, 2020, 19:24:44 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Haha, that's probably my favorite sentence in the English language. A post-modern American James Joyce without those annoying periods?
Date: Thurs, March 26, 2020, 18:05:20 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Hunkered Down
Speaking of the best writers, here is some of the best work of one of them. Posted here many times before, but always worth another read.
http://sdarchive.com/aiahowl.html
Date: Thurs, March 26, 2020, 16:23:41 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
I think we all know what Walter and Donald thought of the "best writers/reporters and critics" of the 70s and beyond.
Will just let the irony ferment for awhile...
Date: Thurs, March 26, 2020, 04:10:10 ET
Posted by: Jimmie, US
Interesting that pre-Internet, if you wanted to read about Steely Dan the only things available were in the major magazines from (arguably) the best writers and critics. Now any hack can get attention writing or posting a YouTube video about them, and most of it is garbage.
Date: Wed, March 25, 2020, 21:34:25 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
I didn't read Rolling Stone much back in the day... instead flipping through Stereo Review with a shoot of Creem.
So I missed the Cameron Crowe interview. about Aja. Love the story about Azoff undercutting the market to spam Aja on the shelves.
...and of course Donald and especially Walter toying with Crowe over a series of interview sessions. CC keeps the narrative surreal. He could be famous someday...
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-second-coming-of-steely-dan-189824/
Date: Wed, March 25, 2020, 20:39:32 ET
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Date: Wed, March 25, 2020, 19:58:34 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
A really great and insightful interview with Gary Katz, just in case you haven't seen it:
https://en.audiofanzine.com/recording-mixing/editorial/articles/gary-katz-on-producing.html
Date: Wed, March 25, 2020, 19:47:55 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Razor Boy and (Lunch with) Gina characters always had the Grim Reaper presence:
I hear you are singing a song of the past
I see no tears
I know that you know it may be the last
For many years
You'd gamble or give anything
To be in with the better half
But how many friends must I have
To begin with to make you laugh
Will you still have a song to sing
When the razor boy comes
And take your fancy things away
Will you still be singing it
On that cold and windy day
You know that the coming is so close at hand
You feel all right
I guess only women in cages can stand
This kind of night
I guess only women in cages
Can play down
The things they lose
You think no tomorrow will come
When you lay down
You can't refuse
Will you still have a song to sing
When the razor boy comes
And take your fancy things away
Will you still be singing it
On that cold and windy day
Not to mention the Brite Nightgown.
I dreamed I had a fever
I was pushin' one-oh-three
My mom's all upset
Crying by my bedside
Everybody's praying for me
I hear a scratchin' at my window
I somehow twist myself around
I realize I'm eyes to eyes
With the fella in the brite nitegown
Brite Nitegown
Brite Nitegown
You can't fight the fella
In the Brite Nitegown
Date: Wed, March 25, 2020, 19:40:36 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Nicholas,
Dystopia themes are central to Fagen and Becker worldview. The Ghost in their warped machine.
There's enough crazy on this planet. There's enough power, too. When they commingle, occupying the same coordinates of space-time...let the s***show begin.
Usually W&D kept it veiled within the confines of Steely Dan and some of Fagen's solo work.. Walter sometimes preferred to keep it real...
Safe house: Just a simulation of the mommy-and-daddy groove
Mood swing: When the game gets tired and you're ready to bust a move
Bad luck: There are no surprises when the best laid plans go bust
Deal with it: In the glaring absence of anything you could trust
So you rock so - it's a fact so -
Now that you know so - why don't you act so
Breakdown: Of the last resistance and the partisans fold their tent
Mind meld: Like a permanent picture of your pussyprint in cement
Big bang: It's a bible story with a plot twist at the end
History: And whatever happened well it's happening here again
It's the god's eye view
This is where the deal goes down
Girl you better get right
With the facts on the ground
It's the god's eye view
Everything they say is so
No original sins
The house always wins
Fagen prefered social distancing between the narrative and the real thing, particularly when sharing songwriting with Walter.
We hit the street
With visors down
With our thermasuits
Sealed up tight
We can beat the freeze
And get saved tonight
Snowbound
Let's sleep in today
Wake me up
When the wolves come out to play
Heat up
These white nights
We're gonna turn this town
Into a city of lights
We take the tube
To Club Hi Ho
It's about deadspace
It's a marketplace
And a party house too
Something new
From Charlie Tokyo
It's a kind of pyramid
With a human heart
Beating in an ion grid
Date: Wed, March 25, 2020, 17:32:50 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland (currently under lockdown)
This is just lifted from that barney hurley tweet but I've never seen this photo before, it's rather cool!
https://twitter.com/barneyhurley1/status/1242189097734725633/photo/1
Date: Wed, March 25, 2020, 14:22:14 ET
Posted by: Deacon, Alabama
It seems like only yesterday, I gazed through the glass,
At ramblers, Wild gamblers
That's all in the past
Date: Tues, March 24, 2020, 07:53:14 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
John Lubbock said, "What we see depends mainly on what we look for." My God, suddenly there are lines, snippets, verses, and entire songs that never seemed to have a doomsday connection but now reveal a whole new feel, a whole new subtext that has been illuminated by current events. Sure, some have always been there - KOTW, New Frontier, Last Mall, and others - but the layers of the onion are being peeled back on the Blue.
Date: Tues, March 24, 2020, 03:45:18 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Safe Harbor in Every Storm
Mygod that bass. Down at the bottom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z_OVotMrLM
Date: Tues, March 24, 2020, 03:18:51 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Feeling Lucky Punk?
Got a feeling I've been here before
Watching as you cross the killing floor
You know you'll have to pay it all
You'll pay today or pay tomorrow
You fasten up your beaded gown
Then you try to tie me down
Do you work it out one by one
Or played in combination
[Chorus]
You throw out your gold teeth
Do you see how they roll
I have seen your iron and your brass
Can't you see it shine behind the glass
Your fortune is your roving eye
Your mouth and legs, your gift for the runaround
Torture is the main attraction
I don't need that kind of action
You don't have to dance for me
I've seen your dance before
[Chorus]
Do you throw out your gold teeth
Do you see how they roll
Tobacco they grow in Peking
In the year of the locust you'll see a sad thing
Even Cathy Berberian knows
There's one roulade she can't sing
Dumb luck my friend
Won't suck me in this time
Tobacco they grow in Peking
In the year of the locust you'll see a sad thing
Even Cathy Berberian knows
There's one roulade she can't sing
Dumb luck my friend
Won't suck me in this time
Got a feeling I've been here before
Won't you let me help you find the door
All you got to do is use
Your silver shoes, a gift for the runaround
Use your knack darlin'
Take one step back darlin'
There ain't nothing in Chicago
For a monkey woman to do
[Chorus]
Do you throw out your gold teeth
Do you see how they roll
Date: Tues, March 24, 2020, 01:59:35 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Selfish Gene, don't serve two masters
Must every time I turn my ship around'
Some bastard come and knock my skyline down
I guess that's everything I suppose
The play date's over and the case is closed
Tell me momma that I didn't do right
To have a little something on amateur night
I feel sure that we'll meet again sometime
Don't see why and I don't know when
Date: Tues, March 24, 2020, 01:43:39 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Mona's become a child of the night
When she goes out
It's only for bare necessities
She says she's had it up to here with light
While the city sleeps
That's when she comes alive
Yes, the night belongs to Mona
When she's dancing all alone
Forty floors above the city
CD spinnin', AC hummin', feelin' pretty
Date: Tues, March 24, 2020, 01:41:53 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Say, there's a wreck
On the side of the road
Lots of blood and broken glass
The kid who was driving
I know from somewhere
Some kids just drive too fast
Wait just a minute
There's a beautiful survivor
With dancer's legs and laughing eyes
C'mon snakehips, it's all over now
Strap in tight cause it's a long sweet ride
Steamin' up
That Trans-Island Skyway
Tryin' to make that final deadline
And if the lanes are clear
We're gonna drive a little harder
We'll be deep in the Zone by cryin' time
We reach the sprangle
Just at dawn
These little streets I used to know
Is that my father
Mowin' the lawn
(C'mon daddy get in let's go)
C'mon daddy get in let's go
(In case you haven't come to this realization, and you may not...all the songs are Kamakiriad are dream sequences, masquerading as sci fi)
Date: Tues, March 24, 2020, 01:38:29 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Girl
Whatever trouble waits outside these doors
We're safe inside this house of light
We make up our own storyline
Date: Tues, March 24, 2020, 01:34:32 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Hello one and all
Was it you I used to know
Can't you hear me call
On this old ham radio
All I got to say
I'm alive and feeling fine
If you come my way
You can share my poison wine
There's no need to hide
Taking things the easy way
If I stay inside
I might live til Saturday
Any man left on (of) the Rio Grande
Is the king of the world
As far as I know
Date: Mon, March 23, 2020, 20:08:07 ET
Posted by: Katy L, Any World
If I had my way I would move to another lifetime.
Date: Mon, March 23, 2020, 16:56:04 ET
Posted by: Lutz, SF
Things may get a whole lot worse
Before suddenly falling apart
Date: Mon, March 23, 2020, 16:05:51 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. It's Happy Hour
A nice piece from someone who seems to be reading The Blue:
https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/why-the-brilliantly-cynical-music-of-steely-dan-is-the-perfect-quarantine-binge
Date: Mon, March 23, 2020, 09:07:28 ET
Posted by: The Lyrics, are everywhere
Now I'm in my apartment
The blinds down the lights out
The phone rings God help me
There's nobody home
I crouch on the carpet
Not breathing just being
Like meat on the bone
Date: Sun, March 22, 2020, 07:27:56 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Distanced
You'll need the tools for survival
And the medicine for the blues
Sweet treats and surprises
For the little buckaroos
Date: Sat, March 21, 2020, 20:04:44 ET
Posted by: moray eel, Dugout
Which means look
Maybe touch
But beyond that not too much
Dumb love in the city at Century’s End...
m.e.
Date: Sat, March 21, 2020, 08:07:19 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, on the Rio Grande
If I stay inside, I might live 'til Saturday.
There are many SD lyrics that fit mass hysteria. Gaslighting Abbie comes to mind.
Date: Fri, March 20, 2020, 21:54:05 ET
Posted by: M,
A little music for the endtimes.
Boom Baby, by Walter Becker and Larry Klein.
https://youtu.be/eu91lRm9zKU
Date: Fri, March 20, 2020, 16:46:45 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL
...and I'm a Sunken Condos guy...surrounded by my memorabilia...
Date: Fri, March 20, 2020, 12:51:25 ET
Posted by: TT, S
I'm more in line with Kamakiriad.
A virus wearing pumps and pearls.
Date: Fri, March 20, 2020, 07:46:27 ET
Posted by: Aja1, Newton
The Nightfly has been comforting to me recently, certainly the relate-able subject matter of New Frontier, but the tone and time that this album represents feels very relevant these days.
The keyword is survival.
Date: Thurs, March 19, 2020, 21:33:35 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
Drive into Springtime, Dan fans.
Date: Thurs, March 19, 2020, 21:18:08 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Hunkered Down
We've got provisions and lots of beer
The key word is survival on the new frontier
Date: Wed, March 18, 2020, 11:02:21 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
I suppose it's only a matter of time before the tour is officially postponed or cancelled.
Date: Tues, March 17, 2020, 15:06:24 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba, Original Zox painting?
I don't think I've ever seen the original image before.
http://www.robertbermangallery.com/exhibitions/paid-to-play-illustrating-la-1945-1985#24
Date: Tues, March 17, 2020, 03:37:06 ET
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Date: Sat, March 14, 2020, 07:22:17 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Morph the Cat - 2006.
Date: Fri, March 13, 2020, 20:59:01 ET
Posted by: kuleebaba, Socially distancing, er, like usual
Vaguely amusing, but the Steely Dan dig is a bit... arbitrary.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/13/opinions/boomers-boronavirus-millennials-pariser/index.html
Date: Thurs, March 12, 2020, 16:19:53 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, LEFT of the Rio Grande
Not much else to say:
https://youtu.be/h3Pw4t_Falo
Date: Mon, March 09, 2020, 23:13:52 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
Bad Sneakers, I just heard the news, too. Surprised it wasn't' more publicized. But then again it might have been. I was sick and slept most of the weekend.
Great musician and a great loss.
Date: Mon, March 09, 2020, 22:51:48 ET
Posted by: BadSneakers, still here
R.I.P.
McCoy Tyner
Go Fourth ...
Date: Mon, March 09, 2020, 20:23:46 ET
Posted by: King Corona of the World, as far as I know
No marigolds in the promised land.
Date: Sat, March 07, 2020, 13:04:07 ET
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Date: Sat, March 07, 2020, 09:50:11 ET
Posted by: p, g
Someone chased the dragon.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/italy-lambrusco-wine-from-faucet-castelvetro-trnd/index.html
Date: Wed, March 04, 2020, 20:52:37 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
TvN is my favorite CD of all. I am in agreement with Doc Mu. West of Hollywood is, for me, a moving and brilliant piece. Jack of Speed is another I love. The release of this after such a long break was a gift.
Date: Mon, March 02, 2020, 10:28:40 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
TvN is special to me because it was the first Steely Dan album I heard on day one and I played the everliving shit out of it for years. I was 12 which is the perfect time for an album to come along and become part of your DNA.
If I attempt to put aside the nostalgia factor I guess I don't think it tops their run from Katy Lied to The Nightfly because nothing really tops those albums, not even other Steely Dan albums. But I do think that West of Hollywood, Almost Gothic, and Negative Girl are among the best songs they have ever recorded. I'll admit to skipping Cousin Dupree but I have a lot of love for the rest of the album too.
Did it "deserve" the AOTY Grammy? I don't know. I tend to think in a perfect world the Grammys would award AOTY to albums that capture something that is unique to the year in question, that couldn't have existed in any other time or place, that are genre defying or genre defining, that are embraced by a younger generation and baffle the older generations. TvN was not that album. (I think it probably should have gone to Kid A.) But it was, and is, excellent, and DF and WB deserved recognition, so I'm glad they got it.
Date: Mon, March 02, 2020, 03:51:52 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Yeah, TvN is more organic sounding with less whack on the snare on DVD-Audio or vinyl
TvN and EMG share the same strength/weakness. The back end is far stronger than the front end. The only exception is Cousin Dupree, which is a little weak. TvN succeeds at using multiple voices rather than themes and accompaniment. Nice conversation between the instruments. The chord changes are ridiculous.
It's a little more complex and as much sour vs. sweet compared with Aja.
How I rate 'em:
West of Hollywood - best song on the album and unnerving as well. Potter's Rule.
Negative Girl - Done in 2 takes. Neuroses never sounded so good
Almost Gothic - Our Girl from Transylvania. In the Amen Corner
Jack of Speed - Could have been on Royal Scam
Janie Runaway - There's never too much sax
TvN - digging hard into Miles Davis noir
What a Shame About Me - now that's a bridge!
Gaslighting Abbie - Flame is the game.
Cousin Dupree - backs up against the wall
EMG should be replayed in reverse order, because it actually makes sense then. Not as complicated as TvN, but more live and recorded on analog tape with the teeniest of digital editing. Better melodies and harmonies overall, though.
How I rate 'em.
GreenBook - one of Dan's all-time greats
Lunch with Gina - still think this is about the Grim Repress
Pixeleen - ridiculous call and response chorus and bridge
Everything Must Go. Tip of the Fez to 'Trane.
Slang of Ages - very, very, very underrated
Godwhacker - 6th best song on the album, and it's still a killer.
Things I Miss the Most - I would go for a different groove, but what a great song!
It's blasphemy, but in MY 1-7 tracks, EMG is a better album, despite the kewl horn charts on TVN.
Last Mall
Blues Beach
Should be at the end of the album...or better yet replaced by Wet Side Story, Kulee Baba, Can't Write Home About You, The Bear, Seawall, I Idolize you, anything.
Date: Sun, March 01, 2020, 20:24:40 ET
Posted by: E.C, W
I loved TvN but in retrospect I find the production is a little too sterile. Then I thought they over compensated on EMG. The perfect album would have been somewhere in the middle.
Date: Sun, March 01, 2020, 12:29:16 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL
WOW...20 year Anniversary of "Two Against Nature".
I remember reading somewhere that a new "Steely Dan" album was coming out. In the month's leading up to the release of it, I began to salivate at the thought of new "Steely Dan" music.
The day it came out, I rushed over to a Borders that was near me here in Tampa and I got the CD. My job and my apartment were within walking distance of each other. I think I bought it on my lunch break and listened to it before going back to work.
Loved the entire album, but "Almost Gothic" immediately was the one song that resonated the most with me.
Borders had a big display for the album and also for "EMG", 3 years later, by the way.
It was only a month or two after this that news of the "2 Against Nature" tour took place and it allowed me to attend my first of many "Steely Dan" concerts and my mind was completely blown.
Date: Sat, February 29, 2020, 20:29:20 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Great stuff Hoops! Brings back great memories of the Blue!! Thanks.✌️
Date: Sat, February 29, 2020, 19:15:23 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
DANDOM DIGEST
February 29, Y2K+20
Yr. 28, No. 4
("Two Against Nature" image is based on original image (c)2000 Warner Records.
Appears here under fair use.)
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SPECIAL LEAP DAY "2vN 20th ANNIVERSARY" EDITION
This Dandom Digest reprints a slightly random selection of
content from the Dandom Digest circa 2/29-3/12/2000. Near the
end are links to some new articles considering
"Two Against Nature" ("2vN") today in 2020.
A COUPLE OF REMINDERS:
* Traditionally our policy is NOT to edit or
spell check posts--errors can tell you about the knowledge of
the writer...or not.
* Responses and contributions from any and all readers of the
Dandom Digest are welcome and preferred over the those of the
facilitator. Have something to say or want posted? Please email
jjmckay at me dot com.
Happy 2/29/Y2K+20!
Jim McKay
aka hoops
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IN THIS DANDOM DIGEST
Doesn't This Take You Back 20 Years?
re "The New One!"
f-k1ng Perfect
Two With (their) Nature
Random Dandom: 2vN Thoughts
Second Impressions
"I Was There" Report: SD on Rockline radio network 3/1
Taxi
'Trading 4's' for Chapman Rackaway
Song references
Sax solo
Musings on 2vN
What a Shame About Me
Cuz is THE single
Enhance Your Listening Experience!
Excuses, excuses!
2vN cost me $123.50
Jack Of Speed Thoughts
Re: Dem Drums etc
No bad song
OPINION: 2vN
Jingle Bells, are you listening
jack of speed / sleigh bells
2 against nature: to be enjoyed ...
Dave, PBS & General Musings
Steely Dan at #6 In Billboard After one Week!
ti-bon-ange
Live perfection??
Late Show with David Letterman Appearance
Letterman rhapsody
*****
ANOTHER MEDIUM: David Letterman interviews Steely Dan
2vN Y2k+20: Stereogum Looks Back
2vN Y2k+20: Esquire Looks Back
And There's MUCH More...SD Archive/2vN
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Subject: Doesn't This Take You Back 20 Years?
Steely Dan "Cousin Dupree"
https://youtu.be/FY-zUkWwS50
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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:06:10 -0800
From: "Paige L. Anderson" <paigea@>
Subject: WOW!
I'm no longer an atheist...thank you God.
-Paige
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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:57:30 -0500
From: Len Kornblau <kornblau@>
Subject: re "The New One!"
Putting aside the quasi literate techno-babble of the media, the best description
of "2vN" is:
WOW!
Now, let's get started on "The NEXT One!"
Daddy G!
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From: DoctorWu51@
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:06:12 EST
Subject: f-k1ng Perfect
Pick nits all you want, people. My headphones will be glued on for days..
Donald & Walter sound like they're coming back fresh after a long
vacation(and, it certainly was). Still subversive, no compromise, plenty of
edge, beautiful sound, plenty to mine out of the layers in this one, listen
after listen. They're still getting unsuspecting people to listen to jazz,
even more so this time. Donald's vocals are still a SD trademark, Walter is
finally showing off his guitar chops instead of having others do guitars for
him. The CD exceeded all of my hopes & expectations.
My only concern is if Donald might be turning into Mr. LaPage.
The CD is f-k1ng perfect.
"That right wing hooey sure stunk up the joint", indeed.
Chris Callahan
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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:21:00 -0500
From: Brian Adamson <adamson@>
Subject: Two With (their) Nature
So the preorder of 2vN pays off ... As I'm leaving the house this morning for work, I notice the subtle cardboard package on my doorstep. I get to listen to it all on a slightly long commute, with questions of what to expect given my exposure to various snippets on the Internet and the mixed comments of others. My take:
No one should be disappointed with this album. As I'm driving my BMW in heavy traffic, it strikes me that this work is a prime example of Steely Dan, simultaneously capturing the fragile elegance and despair of our existence, with telling blues beyond the matters of simple creature comforts or affairs of the heart. It's the blues of Utopia, with stories of the dregs of society from all walks of life, but looking at both aspects of the subjects at once ... like studying the symmetry and beauty of atom bomb mathematics. There's much deeper emotion in this (and other Steely Dan works) than anyone could ever appreciate with just a surface glance.
The music and its arrangement this album is once again conducted by Fagen and Becker with a magic wand, from the meticulously flanged keyboards to a spacious landscape casually strewn with guitar riffs, horn parts, and vocal harmonies. As a musician, I'm always amazed when talented jazz or other players make it look so easy when you watch them. This album deceptively somehow makes it _sound_ easy. As with other Steely Dan, the music somehow seems to defy any specific place in time with a dual nature of tinges of nostalgia or deja vous, but somehow sounding like it was recorded in the future on a rocket ship escaping the violent destruction of Earth ... I used to think of Steely Dan as music of the 21st century, but now I realize it may be the 22nd.
And, as always, the Steely Dan package, along with each element of its content, is a complex concoction, to be appreciated in may different ways over time. This one will be challenging me (and my nature) for years to come. The Steely Dan package is always an intimidating pill to swallow all at once. You have to immerse yourself in the thorns of the musical and lyrical undergrowth to find the blossom of its message. It's poetry of real life for grown ups of any age with philosophy and lust, politics and drama, tragedy and humor ...
This isn't a Steely Dan comeback album. Man, they were never gone! Don't expect the point, click, and drool world to climb aboard today any more than they have in the past. Yes, it would have been easy/possible for Steely Dan to have put together a hormone-injected, high energy missile, perhaps reminiscent of past works with some sort of modern flair ... but we got Steely Dan instead. I salute the the creators of this work for not compromising themselves in any way, not for the public at large, nor us, their fans. Perhaps its "two against nature" at large, but not their own. Even in Utopia, you may not get what you ask for, but what you need instead.
best regards,
Brian
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From: "Chapman Rackaway" <chapman.rackaway@�>
Subject: Random Dandom: 2vN Thoughts
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:59:37 -0600
OK, 2vN has been in the CD player of my car, my home system, even my laptop
at work (damned, no Enhanced CD videos or anything.) I've lost count of the
number of times I've listened to the thing, and now the thoughts and
opinions are starting to flow like vintage wine from fine old kegs - or, if
you're not into the Sinatra reference, my thoughts are tumbling out like Mad
Dog 20/20 from the bottle stuffed into a brown paper bag. I'm bursting with
opinions on the thing, and had to vent. So, I decided to share and see what
people thought. Feel free to flame away.
1) While all the songs are good, one in particular jumps out at me. It's
Jack of Speed. Maybe it's because they tried it out in KC in '96, and I
like the treatment. Musically it's lush and layered, one of the things that
I think characterizes a great Dan song. On each successive listen, you can
focus on one part of the song and revel in it. Case in point: Josie. Jack
has those same qualities. Right now, I'm focusing on the bassline, which is
beautiful.
2) Lyrically, it's as subtle and dense as I have come to expect from the
Dan. If you want to analyze it, the obvious reference is to a guy with a
drug problem. But, knowing D&F, that's TOO obvious. I think a good
alternate idea is that it's more about a guy having a mid-life crisis.
Evidence?: "Teddy's skating backwards" . . . "he walks through the old
routines, but he's gone" . . . "he'll be calling out your name". The poor
fool knows he's got it good at home, but he can't recognize it. He's going
to lose his loving wife if he keeps the hair implants, convertible, and
dating Britney Spears. Just a thought, and I could be way off-base. But I
would love to hear other opinions on the topic. In the JAM! Interview (a
very good one, download it quick) they mention the title being about
flirting with dementia. So, either possibility is legit I suppose. Part of
the beauty of the Dan is the variety of interpretations the lyrics lend
themselves to.
3) Still on 'Jack' - what does the reference to 'trading fours' mean? Is
this another Custerdome, like Doctor Warren Kruger in "West of Hollywood"?
Or, does someone know of an actual phrase, action, etc. that trading fours
refers to? It sounds like a reference to playing cards, but I looked in my
Hoyle's and couldn't find a thing.
4) Anyone surprised by Fagen's hipness attempt in "Almost Gothic"? To
refer to this dreamgirl as 'old school' seems out of place, almost as if
he'd been spending time with that hip hop duo that sampled 'Black Cow' a few
years ago ;> BTW, I think Gothic might be the next best song behind 'Jack'
on the album.
5) Being on exile here in the Midwest, some of the East Coast accoutrements
are unfamiliar to me - what is Dean and Deluca as referenced in Janie
Runaway?
6) Title Track - Would anyone like to help me build a diorama of this one?
There's almost too much to cut through in the lyrics, and I don't know if I
want to strip the gild off this lily. I'd always thought of B&F as being
into alternate mysticism, but except for The Royal Scam I'd never thought
much about the voodoo angle.
7) Overall, I think this album is a triumph, an instant classic. I know,
it's not perfect, and it might seem like I'm sucking up to the boys, but I
love it. With Nightfly and Kamakiriad, it's taken me a few weeks of
listening to find points of focus, things I like about the album. Not so
here - it's an excellent effort all around. The drums are little soft and
the horns a little much, but B&F have proven that they've still got it, even
after a prolonged studio layoff. I've always been drawn to SD lyrics, and
they never disappoint in 2vN. They're a heady mix of mysticism, middle-aged
reminiscence, and horny schoolboy attitude. Find anyone else (except for
Warren Zevon, who almost does as good a job) who can do that well, and I'll
buy their entire back-catalog. Thanks to B&F for putting the lyrics in the
liner.
8) Everyone should really appreciate the work that Hoops McKay's done these
past few weeks in particular (though we all appreciate the forum at all
times). It can't be easy work putting this together, and he's definitely
helped turn the release into an EVENT - far beyond the mere release itself.
Speaking of which, I think I might be wasting too much space here. Thanks a
lot, Hoops, and please keep it up!
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From: "Phil Steer" <phil.steer@�>
Subject: Second Impressions
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:15:52 -0000
I've now been listening to 2vN almost continuously for over 3 days (I work
from home, so I can listen whilst I work), and as the song says: "It started
out good, then it got lots better" (actually, it was superb to begin with!).
Perhaps its just the novelty of the new, but I think 2vN could be heading
towards becoming my favourite Dan album of all time (although that's rather
like saying that you have a favourite child, when really you love them all
the same!) Anyway, a few more thoughts to add to my initial impressions (I
hope you don't mind, but the only other real Dan-Fan that I know it
currently out of the country, and I have to share my thoughts with someone!)
Firstly, many thanks for not "flaming" me for missing the "-ing" in
"Gaslighing Abbie". How embarrassing! Please be assured that I am a real
Dan-Fan (of almost 20 years) - I think the excitement must have got too
much!
I'm pleased to see that I'm not the only one who thinks that "What a shame
about me" is reminiscent of "Springtime" - but I love it all the same .
Favourite track at the moment (although see comments above about favourite
album) - probably "Jack of Speed". I heard it played in it's earlier
incarnation at Wembley on the Art Crimes '96 tour, and wasn't particularly
taken with it. However, this version is fantastic. Great words, great
"feel" ("groove"?), and I love the brass section, especially when there's
that higher note picked up by the guitar (I think - I'm no musician), for
example at 0:34, and then when it repeats the refain to fade.
"Least" favourite track at the moment (I'll probably get "flamed" for this,
as others have singled it out as one of the best!) - "Negative Girl". I
guess it's the least "commercial" track, and is probably best appreciated by
real musicians. I'm sure I'll grow to like it more as I get to know it, and
begin to appreciate all the musical subtleties.
Current favourite "moment" (a detail lasting a few seconds or less, with
which Dan songs are packed) - in "West of Hollywood" when Donald sings "And
I almost got there".
Anyway, I could go on and on - but I won't! Many thanks for "listening"!
Best Regards, Phil Steer
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From: "Brent Williams" <brent_williams@>
Subject: "I Was There" Report: SD on Rockline radio network 3/1
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:23:49 EST
I was in the front row of the studio audience at last night's Rockline live radio broadcast of an interview with Donald and Walter. Not as cool as the VH1 or PBS concerts, but I'll take it. Sat right in front of Craig Fruin, the recipient of all those nasty memos from WB complaining about working conditions.
The best part of the whole deal from my point of view was when they took a few minutes at the end to sign stuff. I brought my old California license plate, "KTY LIED" and an in-original-plastic Pretzel Logic LP. They cracked up when they saw the license plate. Donald held it up and showed the audience, which gave it a healthy round of applause. I took pix of them signing my stuff. I'll figure out a way to post the pix if they turn out.
Somebody had a "Can't Buy a Thrill" LP to be signed, and D&W commented "This cover still looks as ugly as the day we released it." The most unusual object to be autographed was a huge paperback book entitled "How to pay Zero in Income Taxes", a subject of some humor.
During a break when they were playing "Hey Nineteen," D&W got into a discussion about the resonance on the kick drum, showing off a little of that widely rumored perfectionist streak.
Although the host (Bob Coburn) was reasonably well prepared, it seemed like it took a while for D&W to warm to the interview process with the usual level of repartee. Some of the questions stood out from the usual:
* A questioner from North Carolina asked whether Cousin Dupree was a song about incest, and also whether D&W had ever planned to release a country album. D&W's answer to both was fairly dry, despite the obvious opportunity for mischief in the answer.
* Somebody asked about whether Chevy Chase really played drums for an early incarnation of the band. D&W were complimentary of Chevy's musical abilities without any discernible trace of irony.
* Walter characterized "Janie Runaway" as "an exuberant song, all about life."
The Rockline people did a good job pre-screening questions�so the level of questioning was more clever than a typical call-in radio broadcast, though a number of questions were fairly pedestrian.
Finally, check out Tuesday's and today's "Top 5" list at www.topfive.com for some rather amusing Dan-style humor. List moderator Chris White is a confirmed Dan fan! [Chris is a Dandom Digest Regular he actually mailed his list into the digest--it appears BELOW in THIS digest.]
-brent
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From: GrooveCake@
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:41:43 EST
Subject: Taxi
I had to chuckle at my realization that "What A Shame About Me" is a Steely Dan re-writing of the Harry Chapin classic, "Taxi".
Of course...at the end of "Taxi", the lady doesn't offer to sleep with poor old Harry, whereas Donald gets the nod!
Mitch T.
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Reply-To: <tito@PhilBondi>
Subject: 'Trading 4's' for Chapman Rackaway
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:58:40 -0500
The term trading 4's refers to musicians taking 4 measure solos - usually traded
with the drummer, but not always.
Damn, this is a good album!
tito
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From: Lolitaj@
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:43:40 EST
Subject: Song references
Someone asked about these, so I will attempt to answer:
Trading fours, at least in a jazz band [of which I am a member of one] is
when the band plays for four measures and everyone but the drummer drops out
for four measures. Many 40s and 50s jazz instrumentals feature this. If it
means something else in Jack of Speed I have no idea - I'll have to pay
closer attention when I listen to it at home tonight.
In Janie Runaway, Dean & Deluca is a gourmet grocery store in Soho NYC - the
home of the $5 head of lettuce and $2 imported apple. The food is great, but
definitely not for the plebian masses - you don't run there for a gallon of
milk.
Hope these help.
Lolita
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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 00:28:42 -0500
From: Stein Rimehaug <waystein@>
Subject: Sax solo
I don't have any input as to who may be playing the Two Against Nature
sax solo, Dave Tofani, Lawrence Feldman, or an uncredited Chris Potter.
Chris Potters work on other tunes sure stands out, especially the solos
on Gaslighting Abbey and West of Hollywood. Poignant it certainly is,
the way he paraphrases Coltranes "Giant Steps" at the conclusion of the
entire CD, (at 8:04, after the bass drops out) accompanied by a drum
back-beat and a spacy synth patch. Sounds like Steely Dan ascending
into space while firmly rooted in both jazz and rock'n'roll.
Stein Rimehaug
http://www.dreamscape.com/waystein
SD/Fagen midi files at:
http://www.dreamscape.com/waystein/scammidi.htm
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From: sjpachuta@
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:40:37 -0600
Subject: Musings on 2vN
Driving home from work yesterday with The New One in the CD player
and the sun shining I just had to smile. I was taken back to my college
days when Aja was on every civilized radio station. Ahhh, nice. I'm
grateful. Next to a Beatles reunion this is about as good as it gets.
On the way to buy 2vN yesterday what did our local classic rock
station play but"Cousin Dupree"? I was floored. (This is KQRS
Minneapolis, not known for beingadventurous in my opinion).
I've been listening to 2vN (incidentally, I assume the "v" is for
"versus") for severalweeks via the MP3 files, but listening to
these songs in the old Sennheisers last night was like hearing
them for the first time. The bass and overall sound quality are
incredible (except for the dropout at 4:27 in Cousin D as someone
pointed out).
My favorite is Jack of Speed. The "You maybe got lucky..." break
is the highlight for me--one of those little hooks I can't get out of my
head. I also like West of Hollywood (they've achieved new heights of
inscrutability with the lyrics), Negative Girl (love the little
high-pitched ditty at the end of this one), What a Shame About Me
(great lyrics; the verse resembles Tomorrow's Girls, but what the heck),
Almost Gothic.... Wait a minute, I like them all! Well, actually there are
two I don't care for. These are Janie Runaway and Gaslighting Abbie.
It's a matter of taste, of course, but I like the "smooth" sound more
than the "funky" sound. The chorus in Abbie grows irritating over
time (I liked it at first)--maybe that's intentional!
Overall I am really happy with 2vN. At this early stage I would even
put it on a par with Gaucho. Some recommendations for the next one
(strictly personal taste, of course): more acoustic piano, more variety
in the drumming (we've all been spoiled by Aja), and more guitar. On
this last point, I think Walter's solos are just fine. He tends to go for
short phrases rather than soaring, majestic leads as in Don't Take Me
Alive and Reelin' in the Years, but that's o.k. in the context of these
songs. My complaint is that all of these are sort of Rhodes-dominated
and not guitar dominated (I would use Green Earrings as an example of
a guitar-dominated song, even though there are plenty of keyboards as
well). 2vN has lots of guitar, but the impression I get after I've stopped
listening is one of electric keyboard saturation. This is extreme nitpicking,
however. I love the album and pray for for more.
Steve Pachuta
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From: Lolitaj@
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:46:29 EST
Subject: What a Shame About Me
I think one of the biggest reasons What a Shame About Me sounds exactly like
Springtime is because the background vocals have the same arrangement during
the chorus. It may be inverted a third or a fifth [perhaps even an octave],
but they both have the same key, chords and almost the same percussive tone.
If you take out the actual lyrics and just sang out the notes you would see
what I mean. That was immediately apparent to me the first time I listened
to the song.
Lolita
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From: "Bart Torvik" <raymond_rhodes@>
To: dandom@ interaccess dot com
Subject: Cuz is THE single
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 00:17:40 CST
I just wanted to say that "Cousin Dupree" was a superb choice to use as the single. It's the only radio-ready single on the album as far as I can discern. I love that song.
That is all-
Bart Torvik
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From: "Hamilton, Reed " <Reed.Hamilton@>
Subject: Enhance Your Listening Experience!
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:33:32 -0500
Wanting to approach the new one from a different angle I looked on my boom
box here at work to see if I had a shuffle. Well no shuffle but a "bass boost"
which was in the off position. Well I punched the button and it really made the
music better. The bass line, while not too loud, was now noticeable and increased
my enjoyment. So if you haven't already, turn the bass up just a little. You'll be glad you did!!
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From: "The Top 5 List" <chris@>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:06:50 -0500
Subject: Excuses, excuses!
Here's a little something we whipped up at the humor site I run,
TopFive.com...
The Top 17 Excuses for Not Releasing an Album for 20 Years
17> Just emerged from the bomb shelter, figuring 20 years was
enough time for the noxious fumes of disco to subside.
16> It started out as a simple Chinese finger cuff prank, then
the next thing you know...
15> Hey -- traffic in L.A. is a bitch!
14> Hunting down that infidel Salman Rushdie not as easy as
it sounds.
13> "Hey Nineteen" turned out to be more like "Hey Fourteen-and-
a-Half," and there were some, er, legal issues to resolve.
12> Spent the last two decades reelin' in the beers.
11> "All I can say is, never get in a pissing contest with Boston."
10> Spent every night of the last 20 years at the Wintergarden,
watching CATS.
9> Were waiting for that invitation to join the Traveling Wilburys.
8> Stuck trying to find a word that rhymes with "marsupial."
7> Been in mourning ever since the Sons of the Pioneers started
dropping like flies.
6> Twenty year ban on literate, well-crafted songs recently
lifted by UN.
5> Busily supplying sperm for lesbian rock singers like
modern-day Johnny Appleseeds.
4> Friggin' Katz kept insisting on bringing Yoko to the
recording sessions.
3> Walter's will to live only recently re-awakened by potent
Viagra/Parker Posey therapy.
2> Took a while to convince Donald's mom to park on the street
and free up the garage.
and the Number 1 Excuse for Not
Releasing an Album for 20 Years...
1> Repeatedly seduced by that wanton temptress known as the
snooze button.
[ The Top 5 List www.topfive.com ]
[ Copyright 2000 by Chris White ]
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From: BillMaruca@
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:41:21 EST
Subject: 2vN cost me $123.50
Last night, driving home with a big grin on my face, pounding on my steering
wheel in that loopy 6/4 pattern along with the title track which I was
hearing for the second time, I ran right into a speed trap. I'll be sending
the ticket along to D&W to take care of since they are clearly responsible.
Some initial random musings:
The title track is my current favorite - killer riff unlike not only any
previous SD song, but unlike anything I can recall - name one other song with
a similar groove by anyone, I challenge you. Excellent lyrics calling to
mind a cross between Ghostbusters, The Exorcist and the X-Files (Wm Gibson
connection??), but these poltergeist-hunters really love their gig! From the
sax-squawks to the odd piano stabs to the percussion to DF's most "Countdown
to Ecstacy"-style lead vocal in decades, this track is worth the 20 year wait
in itself. (P.S. Lou Garou is a reference to the Louisiana werewolf legend
Loup Garou).
The plot of "Gaslighting Abbie" is pretty well established now, or is it?
With all the references to "solitaire" I have to wonder if this may be the
long-delayed sequel to "Rose Darling." Does our hero even have a
co-conspirator at all? Abbie seems to be a close relative of Snake Mary, eh?
(Or even the Wife From Hell from Cringemaker).
Walter's guitar sparkles througout. Some may wish for flashier guitar solos,
but WB is the man, and his tone is the best ever here. His solo on "West Of
Hollywood" is one of the best of his career, right up there with "Pretzel
Logic." And I recall back in the mid-70's, pining for Skunk, it took me a
long time to warm up to the weird note choices in WB's solo on "Black Friday"
which now are such a part of the song that it doesn't sound right with any
other lead guitarist. I don't want to admit how many years it took me to
recognize the Duke Ellington quote on the end of that solo.
Great to hear so much electric piano, especially the venerable Wurlitzer.
Nothing beats that genuine analog "poink".
To answer someone's question, "trading fours" is how jazz players often duel,
i.e., trading four-bar improvised licks back and forth. SD did it with the
live arrangement of "Teahouse on the Tracks" in 93 - WB, DF and Drew Zingg
(and on one occaision Denny Dias).
Much more to come, to quote the demo sessions....
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From: DartWoman@
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:10:43 EST
Subject: Jack Of Speed Thoughts
Here are a few thoughts as to what might be influencing Teddy in Jack Of
Speed:
a) A chemical substance, probably of an illegal nature
b) A non-specified mental disturbance that would appear to be incurable
c) Brain-washing as a result of subliminal messages received by listening to
Rush Limbaugh
Robin
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From: "Ivy Thomas" <ivy@>
Subject: Re: Dem Drums etc
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:00:13 -0800
First said, 2vN is a damn fine bit of work. The only ones I'm tending to
skip over on replay are Gaslighting (drums and guitarbreak) and Dupree
(tired of it already)... but I gotta chime in on the pounding drums esp
on West of Hollywood. I'm hoping to hear revamped live of it someday
soon.
The standout track for me has got to be Negative Girl... it has that odd
structure that makes me ask "how *do* they write this stuff and make
it so compelling?" I'm a real sucker for Fagen's trick of leaving out
harmonic content on the first few verses (i.e., EGTTMovies) then adding
it in later. After the first listen, you supply it yourself when needed. It's
wonderful! Great guitarwork, vibe solo, outro... I'll be enjoying this one
for a long time. And speaking of "long time," I think the Twenty Year Gap
is perhaps the amount of time D&F figured it would take for us to
collectively forget how good the last one really was!
Ivy Thomas
Portland OR
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From: "Tim and Nichol" <timandnichol@>
Subject: No bad song
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:01:04 -0500
After listening to 2VN for the fifth time, I thought to myself," is there
a bad song on this cd?"
Answer: NOPE. Don and Walt have taken twenty years off and have put
together the best studio album this cat has heard in twenty years. After
such a lackluster decade of new artists in the nineties, its great to finally
hear some good music from some old friends.
The CD is simply excellent. I rank this disc right up there with the rest
of their catalog of great music. This disc is going to stay on "repeat"
mode in my cd player for a very looonnnng time. Thanks Don and Walt
( and special friends ). You've made us all very happy.
Is there any way I can pre-order tickets to the Grammys for next year?
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:20:10 -0500
From: Ken Strayhorn <kes@>
Subject: OPINION: 2vN
As for 2vN, I've taken a great fondness for the title track and
"Cousin Dupree", which reminds me of old Dan with its ability
to draw you into a musical composition before slyly sliding the
lyrics into your consciousness, at which point you are likely
to say: "Oops!"
Radio Radio: None of the local stations, apparently, are playing
anything from 2vN, this is not surprising as most of the local
stations are owned by the same corporation (Curtis Media) which
isn't known for innovation. However, thank heavens for the Internet
and RealPlayer, especially it's adult alternative selections. I'm
hearing "Cousin Dupree" as I write on WKOC from Norfolk.
Ken Strayhorn
Duke University
"the mechanized hum of another world"Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:14:59 -0500 (EST)
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From: Steve Berthiaume <steve@>
Subject: Jingle Bells, are you listening?
how about...
jingle bells at the end of jack of speed?
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Subject: jack of speed / sleigh bells
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:16:57 +1300
possibly...jack is a 21st century reincarnation of Charlie Freak
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From: "HELLER,REINHARD (A-Germany,ex1)" <reinhard_heller@>
Subject: 2 against nature: to be enjoyed ...
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 23:09:15 +0100
I appreciate the reviews and dissections of the new material. Thanks to all
of you in the Dandom for that! Keep it coming! For myself, there are also
little things that stand out, that send a shiver down the spine - like the
fret sound of the guitar in the intro of "Janie Runaway" - thinking of that
I might also add the e-piano of same intro, or the guitar "dive-bomb-like"
sound just befor the verses in "Negative Girl", or the special sound of
"then she's noisefree" in (the last chorus of) "Almost Gothic". At the same
time I just enjoy it, let it flow ...
On the other hand, I like their attitude towards all our and others'
critical eyes, minds and most of all ears. To quote Donald "We write and
play to amuse ourselves so we hope other people can enjoy it as well, but
our standards are very much self-contained so if people don't like it it's
not our problem" (from the BBC/UK chat session). That's one important thing.
So, Donald and Walter, HAVE FUN, e.g. write and play to amuse yourselves,
that's what I want you to do! And just don't keep your fun to yourselves...
2nd best quote of the day - my colleague Sascha live@his_keyboard: "I think
I'll become a database designer. Then I can create my problems all by myself
..."
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:27:52 -0500 (EST)
From: "Cheryl A. Morris" <morrisc@>
Subject: Dave, PBS & General Musings
While I still haven't made definitive critical reactions to 2VN (not that
I have ended the continual rotation in my CD player) the recent live
performances have struck a chord with me.
On Friday night I thought the SD band's rendition of "Cousin Dupree" was
superb. The addition of a real drummer (although I don't know who he was)
picked up the tune to make it into a genuine live treat. Donald's stage
presence has evolved to the point to where he looks completely at home on
the big stage. Donald now actively directs the band, and forms the
absolutely center to the band. And in contrast to a previous poster, I
don't thing I've ever heard him sing better. No more screetchy high
notes, or overly nasal delivery. His voice is now mellower, fuller, less
strained. He could lose the Elton John glasses though.
Thought Cousin Dupree was the perfect choice to perform. I think it is
the only song on 2VN that has enough of a commercial sound, with hooks, to
stand up in a TV performance. Walter seemed to also have his stage chops
down--he almost looks cool. In '93 the guy looked like an emaciated
professor, with a battle scarred face which was usually turned away from
the audience. On Letterman this Walter looked content, noodling away at
his short but tasteful contribution to the song, and his face looked,
well, alive. The horns were superb, period.
Last night heard the PBS special, and was amazed at how good this band
sounds live. I almost thought that maybe Steely Dan is no longer the
studio band incarnate, a sound that could only exist with the help of
Roger Nichols, the immortal. I still remember (actually back at My Old
School) when SD would release a killer album, like Katy Lied and The Royal
Scam, and their publicist would spread rumors about the upcoming tour. Of
course Walter and Donald's egos could never handle the rigors of getting
up on stage to recreate their sound, and the concert schedule would always
be cancelled.
Now Walter and Don do live gigs before their album is released! And they
get up on stage and do new revisionist versions of their staples that
augment, replace, and sometimes detract from their vinyl originals. But
the point is that they experiment, they adopt a more jazz-like idiom to
their playing, they introduce new ideas into their compositions. Donald
struts around the stage with his portable keyboard and looks like he's
jamming, not acting. Walter adopts the posture of a background player,
but one who lets his fingers do the talking. He seems to be playing like
a piece of the live performance puzzle, not simply trying to adds his
guitar playing to the rest of the band.
And another observation, their live performances seem to have more of a
swing to them. This becomes particularly apparent in rendition of old
favorites, like Black Friday. In the PBS special the song seemed
noticeably slower, and obviously bereft of tasty guitar work. Which makes
for a nice segue into my observation on the lead guitar player, whose name
I'm not familiar with. I give him credit for not trying to recreate Larry
Carlton et. al's legendary leads, a la Drew Zingg in '93. He seemed to be
more in the Walter Becker school of laid back meandering. I thought his
leads were at times interesting. But the songs from the first two albums
in particular rely on a guitar dominated sound for power. Perhaps my
criticism is more for the swingy re-working of the classics which
deliberately downplay the lead guitar licks than the playing of the
guitarist. Or maybe I thought that a couple of the selections needed a
lead guitar that would play in a more aggressive out-front rock style.
The newer stuff sounds fine with the smooth jazz guitar structure that
Donald and Walter now favor. But I wouldn't want to hear this guitarist
playing the opening solo to "Take Me Alive" for example.
Like the Letterman appearance I thought Donald and Walter were very good
throughout the performance. And the horns were exquisite. The
contribution of the horns to the finale of "Pretzel Logic" was perfect, as
was the bluesier styling of the live performance. Sometimes the live
renditions are real improvements on the original and this one smoked.
Same thing with "Jack of Speed". The horns were superb, the live
rendition succeeded beyond the recorded version.
I would like to know more about the piano player. He seems to be another
gem. His contributions were quite a pleasure to hear and I imagine he's
got a pretty good portfolio to draw from.
But the point of this disorganized rambling, is that the SD band has
really become a live band. The PBS show was excellent, really good
playing. At least with the 2VN songs, the live versions have more energy,
more musical tidbits to savor. The old songs are kept interesting by
virtue of their metamorphosis. Steely Dan has, gasp! become a jamming
band. Walter and Don can now go out and show the world what fine
musicians they are, and can show off a totally unique sound that is
instantly recognizable, even when they veer away from the old tried and
true formulas.
****************************************
Brian Morris
Used to 16 or more, but only have videotape
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From: SSLAGHTACA@
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:24:56 EST
Subject: Steely Dan at #6 In Billboard After one Week!
(*Unofficial* Sales Numbers for Top 10 Albums this past week posted below
this post..)
We need to get this puppy to Platinum quickly. There are reports that some of
the online stores couldn't fill orders...they 'didn't anticipate' the volume
of pre-orders. So that should boost sales over the next few weeks.
The singles didn't make the charts nationally, which would seem to mean that
the success of 2VN will be Fan Driven. US.
I've done a 'soft recruit' on many marginal Dan fans, who will eventually buy
it-soon if I have anything to do with it. Needless to say the ONLY gift I'll
be giving this year will be 2VN, no matter what the occassion. (Bet my dad
can hardly wait till his birthday..)
Hoops and others in the DanDom Digest have crunched numbers and posted some
ideas about all hardcore Dan Fans jumping in on the 'gift' idea and just
'Random acts of Danness'-buy copies to give to your unenlightened friends, as
much as you can afford.
It's obviously not anyone's specific responsibility to make this CD a huge
success. Just 'think Dan' when you might having been thinking 'flowers' or
whatever. The music is Strong and Steely And Contemporary-in their fashion.
Over time it'll sell itself to a point. The tour will help. But without
major radio, it's up to us to push now and keep pushing. We're a big part of
the promo.
We want the guys to do another one, right? Keep touring? Imo-they'd probably
quit before they became an oldies act...this one's Got to do well. Bug those
local radio stations that aren't chain programmed to play 2VN stuff.
Think Steely (giftwise), talk Steely to friends, Request Steely.
Go Steely Dan!
Steve
---------------------->
Sales Numbers and comments below posted in Alt. Steely Dan courtesy of
"musicom1@". Thanks for the info!
"2 Against Nature" sold 141,383 units in its first week of release in
the USA, which will be good for a #6 position on the Billboard Top 200
LP chart.
The top 10 albums, with units sold were:
1 SANTANA|SUPERNATURAL 441034
2 BONE THUGS-N-HA|BTNHRESURRECTI 280485
3 SMASHING PUMPKI|MACHINA-MACHIN 165369
4 DR. DRE|DR. DRE 2001 160438
5 SIGEL*BEANIE|TRUTH 155561
6 STEELY DAN|TWO AGAINST NATURE 141383
7 AC/DC|STIFF UPPER LIP 130488
8 GRAY*MACY|ON HOW LIFE IS 129708
9 SISQO|UNLEASH THE DRAGON 123992
10 KID ROCK|DEVIL WITHOUT A CAUSE 119094
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From: Kelli.Fritsche@
Subject: ti-bon-ange
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:59:43 -0800
In noting that the PRETZEL LOGIC quote in digest 1 on March 7 "T-Bone Angie
she champion liar", I thought some might find this interesting.
Zombi astral
A zombi astral is created when a black magician captures the
ti-bon-ange of a person during that period when the soul hovers over the
body after death. In contrast to a zombie, which is a body without a soul, a
zombi astral is a soul without a body. The zombi astral is confined to a
glass jar or bottle and performs deeds at the command of the bokor, never
allowed to join the land of the dead or achieve a final rest
Kelli
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From: "Amy Barrington" <abarring@>
Subject: Live perfection??
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 18:36:57 -0800
Like most of you I'm sure, I was glued to the telly for our boys'
appearance on Letterman last night, (and to the VCR today as well...).
How fab to see the guys again. I wish there had been time for Dave to
chat with them a bit. At the risk of beating a very dead horse, however,
I would like to hear some opinion regarding the percussion from last
night's performance. At first, I thought the metronome-like precision
of the drums was the result of an automated, synthesized non-human
entity. Then, to my surprise, I caught glimpse of a real live being
perched up behind the rest of the band, banging the hell out of a massive
drum set. Real or prop?
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Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 11:06:20 -0500
From: Todd Cave <tcave@>
Subject: Late Show with David Letterman Appearance
It was great to see them in action but the mix was awful and it was shot
like a Donald Fagen dental exam. The PBS special airs Monday at 10 in
Atlanta. Fingers are crossed that the VCR rolls on time (at work).
----Todd Cave
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Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 09:26:06 -0800
From: Christopher and Joanna Osmond <cosmond@>
Subject: Letterman rhapsody
Hoops, dear friends, assembled hangers-on:
I excerpt the following.
Some brief thoughts on last night's Letterman appearance (this will be
strict rhapsody, short on substantial musical comment, scroll on if you
wish).
In 1984, when I was a mature fourteen, the prettiest girl I knew - who
was a senior in high school - asked me to be her escort for a local beauty
pageant. That evening I washed, gussied, preened, and fretted, wondering
how I could better display whatever irresistible qualities I held that she
for some reason valued. When she picked me up that night, I remember
getting in the car, the inky black leather upholstery, the hint of something
female in the air. Chit chat flagged quickly as we pulled out of the
neighborhood - the event had begun, we both sensed moment. She popped
in a cassette and said, "You'll like this...it's THE COOLEST MUSIC in the
world." And I heard "IGY" - my first Dannish exposure -and the rest of
"The Nightfly" for the very first time.
Two days later, the mix of new feelings, sights, smells and sounds this
exotic creature has hipped me to still swam in my head, and I headed to
Turtle's Records to seek the only portion of the experience that was
available for purchase. I'd scribbled down the name after having her
repeat it a few times - mis-spelled, in the Dickensian vein - and soon
located it. I looked at the cover, and looked, and looked. Was that him?
It could be - I'd certainly never seen the Sonny Rollins album, so that was
lost on me - but maybe it wasn't; maybe this was just a moody composition,
featuring a portrait of the Greek ideal of "remote cynical cool" to evoke
what came inside and inform the proper attitude for approaching it. It
certainly did that: the palette of my memories of that evening was
already cobalt blue and black. In short: it was bought, I was hooked,
worked that album harder than I ever had my Genesis or Rush records.
Don't remember how I found out that DF was somehow associated with
another band called SD (in retrospect, my hip friends weren't that
hip), but I somehow grokked that and started scoring the Atlantic
cassettes of Aja and Thrill and Gaucho and Countdown out of the
cutout bin (Katy and Pretzel were hidden from me until I bought
Citizen - then it all made sense). Not that they were any more
illuminating, fact name and personnel-wise - as I'm sure you
remember, cassettes rarely featured any of the original sleeve
art or commentary, and the website was still an SF fantasy. For
years it was just me and the music, in a vacuum - it fell from the
mouth and horn of God for all I knew, and no media organ seemed the
slightest bit interested in telling me otherwise.
All of which is to inform the mode in which I (and, I imagine, most fans
of my age and demographic) received last night's Letterman
transmission (as well as the rest of these weeks' lavish exposure to
WB and DF in all their flesh, voice, and interview smartassery):
Oh my god, they are real guys.
Because you see, short of photos (both artful from website and album
covers and truly anachronistic, like the
Gold-Records-Hanging-On-Our-Shlongs image in the notes to Citizen),
we've never SEEN them. And unless we caught the tours, we've never
seen the most effectively obscured 20th century artists since Thomas
The effect was, at first, not unlike getting an egreetings.com SD ecard:
it's animated! But soon that gave way to the inevitable barrage of
physicality / face / gesture / demeanor / wardrobe / sound input that
my senses quickly started to assemble. After four minutes, I had
effectively met them, at last.
And I am happy to say the morning after that I like them. I like this new
aspect, the grasp of SD as two guys (and, incidentally, a striking bevy
of backup singers). It informs, while not destroying, the
Deus Ex Recordia that constituted all of my experience with their
world up until now. Donald has funny teeth. Walter looks kind of like
a Weeble. They're guys. So am I.
Cool.
Chris Osmond
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From: Hoops@
Subject: ANOTHER MEDIUM: David Letterman interviews Steely Dan
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000
KD Wrote:
Yeah, it would have been nice to get the three kings 'o' irony shootin' the
breeze, but the Late Show isn't the place for it. That meeting will have to
come to us through some other forum.
Yes, indeed. Some other forum...some other medium.
Thanks to KD's inspiration, I did seek out another forum...another medium.
Despite having led us astray with erroneous news that 2vN debuted at #2
on the charts, I gave a certain medium a second chance--Sister Clare Rae
at the Lucky Psychic Hut near the rebuilt Speed Lube VI on U.S. 45 North
in Urbana, Illinois.
Sister Clare Rae was successful. Entering a parallel universe/television
network, with a special 90-minute edition of "Late Show" (just like the old
"Tonight Show") where Letterman always interviews his musical guests,
Sister Clare Rae was able to intercept the missing Late Show interview of
Becker and Fagen. Here's the transcript:
DAVID LETTERMAN: Our next guests are legends. Having recorded such well
known ditties as "Do It Again," "Rikki Don't Lose That Number" and "Deacon
Blues," they now return with their first studio album as a band in 20
years. Here they are for for their second "Late Show" visit. Please give
a warm "Late Show" welcome to Walter Becker and Donald Fagen,
STEELY DAN!
(Wild Applause, Paul Shaeffer and the CBS Orchestra play "Do It Again; "
Walter and Donald come from back stage escorted by those two babes who
usually escort Dave on stage at the opening; however, one is wearing a Girl Scout uniform and the other is dressed in US Postal Service attire--only
the skirts are really short. Dave goes over and greets them and whispers
inaudible things in Walter and Donald's ears. D + W slightly shake their
heads in response to Dave. The babes walk away. Walter and Donald and
Dave all take their places at Dave's desk.
Letterman: Last time you were here, we had Sam Donaldson here and it
was very confusing. Then I remembered--SAM wears the fake hair like
me! Wonder where he gets his!
(WB & DF look at Dave, but say nothing; Audience laughs.)
WALTER BECKER: Dave, we still have our own hair, but you can bet we'd talk to Sam
and you if we were ever in the market.
DONALD FAGEN: Yeah, I think Sam got his at Madame Tousad's.
(Audience laughs.)
WB: Or maybe it was at a Carpetland USA in Jersey City.
(Audience laughs more.)
Paul: Hey, you can have my old toupees if you ever need 'em!
Letterman: Yeah, Paul owns a collection, "Fake Hair of the Middle Ages."
(Audience laughs, with a few tentative claps).
Letterman: Speaking of the aged...so your first studio album in 20 years!
What a wait! Why so long?
DF: We were waiting for the right time...
WB: Yes, and it took 20 years for things to seem right...the right music...
the right climate...
DF: The right marketing...
WB: That's right...we're launching "Two Against Nature" by partnering
with two fine American institutions, The United States Postal Service
and The Girl Scouts of America.
Letterman: That's what I have heard! Why don't you tell us a little bit
about it...
DF: Well, we were approached by the US Postal Service when they were
looking to replace Steve Miller's "Fly Like An Eagle" in their commercials.
At first they wanted "Jack of Speed"...
WB: Somehow that didn't seem right...so we offered them "Two Against
Nature" instead...
Letterman: We have a clip...Hal...roll the clip...
(Commercial Clip Starts)
Bad news breaking Box 18a
My check's shredded Miss Kitty say
Beautiful housewife in deep distress
Been months since they sent the mail order dress.
Everyone's waiting in this gruesome dream
Mail late again, make you scream
Called your Fed Ex, got USPS
Got the mail dude, don't bet yo' ass.
Two against the Mail Carrier don't you know?
Who's gonna drop the box of your things to go
Two Against Postal Service make it slow
Grannie's gift location is unknown
Two against nature don't get so bent
These boys wanna burn the bags of mail unsent
(Commerical clip fades out)
Letterman: Wow! Now that's a new image!
DF: And, as a tie in, they issued a new postage stamp to go with the album.
WB: Last October, in time for the holidays, they issued a special
commemorative deer stamp...only you have to use two to get the two
deers to match the artwork on the new album.
DF: Apparently, during the McCarthy era, Congress passed a law
prohibiting the appearance of two deer on one stamp...
WF: Viewed as a communist plot... the deer were perhaps plotting...
DF: But we think the Postal Service was plotting to get Dan Fans to use
two stamps...to match the album...
Letterman: I see...so I understand you are working with The Girl Scouts
of America too...
DF: That's right...we're sponsoring their cookie sale...
WB: Instead of Thin Mints and Sugar cookies, the Girl Scouts are
exclusively selling only our special recipe, "Hall of Fame Swedish
Ginger Cookies."
DF: Look for them for sale at card tables set up at malls everywhere...
Letterman: As a matter of fact we have a camera on Eighth Avenue where
the special goodies are being sold...Hal...!?
(Screen cuts to street scene where Girl Scout-dressed babe in mini from
earlier is outside on Eighth standing at a card table selling "Hall of
Fame Swedish Ginger Cookies." Pink neon sign behind her blinks the word
"Girls" off and on. The same babe from earlier who was dressed in Postal
Service attire lights a bag of mail on fire so they can stay warm. The
babes stand close together, snuggling in front of the fire.)
(Return back to the Late Show set.)
Letterman: Thanks to cookie sales people Janie and Melanie...hmmm...
would that be a federal case? (Cringing laughter from audience.)...Kids!?
You love that Rock and Roll? Well, we'll be right back with Donald Fagen
and Walter Becker. They're gonna play something off their new one....
we'll be right back with Steely Dan!!!
(Applause, fade to eight minutes of commercials, followed by the same
performance of "Cousin Durpree" and quick end of the show we all
saw in THIS parallel universe/television network. )
So there you have it...given her previous track record, I can't attest to
Sister Clare Rae's accuracy, except in counting my cash. I guess this
won't soothe the pain of there not being a Letterman interview of D + W.
Anyways, try writing something funny in 50 minutes. Maybe you can do better.
hoops!
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Subject: 2vN Y2k+20: Stereogum Looks Back
THE ANNIVERSARY
Two Against Nature Turns 20
Zach Schonfeld | February 28, 2020 - 11:16 am
Much like the current Democratic Primary, the 2001 Grammys were an all-out generational war. The battle for Album Of The Year pitted Boomer favorites like Steely Dan and Paul Simon against the reigning critical darlings of Gen X: Radiohead, Eminem, and Beck, whose horned-up Prince tribute Midnite Vultures could never light up a Grammy voter’s pleasure center the way the 30%-more-boring Morning Phase did 14 years later. The Grammy went to Steely Dan, for Two Against Nature — the comeback album that consummated the duo’s unlikely second wind in the early 2000s.
Then there was the contest for Best Pop Vocal Album, a category as pointless then as it is now. Its incoherent parameters dictated that...
Continues at:
https://www.stereogum.com/2074658/steely-dan-two-against-nature-turns-20/franchises/the-anniversary/
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Subject: 2vN Y2k+20: Esquire Looks Back
Music Fans Have Spent 20 Years Loving and Hating Steely Dan's Two Against Nature
How the album went from critical darling to being fiercely despised and back again.
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BY MADISON VAIN
FEB 29, 2020
When Steely Dan released Two Against Nature on a leap year’s February 29, exactly twenty years ago (then their first album in two decades), critics instantly adored it. “What makes [the album] work isn’t its cerebral ellipticity but its stunning musical clarity,†Rolling Stone wrote in their review at the time. “It is a showcase for what Steely Dan’s core twosome can do—reluctant guitar god Becker remains a fluid, precise player, while Fagen covers the keyboard waterfront with a variety of jazz and R&B styles.†“We might just want to jump into the disc and let the duo take us away from all this teen choreography,†Entertainment Weekly mused in their own take. “Even if their particular Shangri-la is peopled by perverts, creeps, miscreants, and
Continues at:
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a31136473/steely-dan-two-against-nature-album-20th-anniversary/
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Subject: And There's MUCH More...SD Archive/2vN
SD ARCHIVE Coverage of 2vN:
http://sdarchive.com/2vn.html
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Date: Fri, February 28, 2020, 18:08:27 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Here's the latest edition of the Dandom Digest dates February 1-28,2020. The most recent one emailed in the past hour or so. Tomorrow, look for a special Leap Day Dandom Digest celebrating the 20th Anniversary of the release of "Two Against Nature." Thanks as always for your writing contributions, readership, and support. And remember, you are responsible for writing the content.
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DANDOM DIGEST
February 1-28, 2020
Yr. 28, No. 3
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IN THIS DANDOM DIGEST
Steely Dan Charity Show added for 4/25
TWO NIGHTS LEFT!! Keith Carlock On Tour with...
Beard + Herington in Paris & Ireland
Catherine Russell Touring
3/17: Michael Leonhart Orchestra at Jazz Standard, NYC
2015: Watch DF Salute Sonny Rollins
Greg Philliganes on Recording with DF
"Infamy," Burroughs, & DF
Interview on Mastering 2vN for Vinyl
2018: The Jazz Influence on Steely Dan
REDUX: 2020 SD Tour Announced-Tix on Sale
Calling All Current SD Orchestra Members & Alums
Sad News About Steely Doc
***WATCH FOR OUR SPECIAL LEAP DAY "2vN 20th ANNIVERSARY" EDITION
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Subject: Steely Dan Charity Show added for 4/25
Variety's Children's Charity Black Tie Event "Dinner With The Stars" will feature a special performance by Steely Dan in St Louis on April 25, 2020. Tickets start at $1,000 for a "Gold Ticket" and go up to $50,000 for Diamond Table for a party of ten.
Full information is at https://varietystl.org/Dinner-with-the-Stars
The rest of this years Donald Fagen and Steely Dan dates (so far) appear towards the end of this Dandom Digest.
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Subject: TWO NIGHTS LEFT!! Keith Carlock On Tour with...
Krantz/Carlock/Lefebvre
The tour continues through Leap Day.
KCL (KRANTZ CARLOCK LEFEBVRE)
(from https://www.reggieslive.com/show/kcl-krantz-carlock-lefebvre/ )
KCL, the iconic, genre-bending powerhouse trio led by visionary guitarist Wayne Krantz and featuring drummer Keith Carlock (Steely Dan, Sting, John Mayer) and bassist Tim Lefebvre (Tedeschi Trucks Band, David Bowie), held a Thursday-night residency at NYC’s 55 Bar throughout the first decade of the new millenium. Cutting live recordings from the club and posting them online in the early days of the internet and touring only sporadically, KCL developed a thoroughly original style of interactive group improvisation inspired in part by the great Miles Davis Quintet of the 60s, but played out in spontaneously generated contexts of heavy funk, rock and electronica instead of straight-ahead swing.
As other instrumental bands of the day dabbled in derivative fusion and retro-jazz, KCL became an underground phenomenon, cultivating an international following of devoted fans of every stripe looking for an alternative creative music that served the mind, body and spirit. Relentlessly grooving, always innovative, never complacent – KCL made contemporary music that resonated beyond category.
Other sideman obligations sidelined the band soon after their Abstract Logix release, “Krantz Carlock Lefebvre,†in 2010, but their reputation continued to expand globally through fan circulation of the band’s many live videos and recordings. Now, in 2020, KCL re-ignites to tour with incendiary shows throughout the USA, Europe and Asia.
http://www.waynekrantz.com/
https://keithcarlock.com/
https://www.timlefebvremusic.com/
2020-02-28, Jazz Dock, Prague, Cz
2020-02-29, Zig Zag Jazz Club Berlin, Berlin, Germany
For full details and much, much more, see http://www.keithcarlock.com
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Subject: REDUX: Beard + Herington in Paris & Ireland
March 5 New Morning Paris
TOUR OF IRELAND
March 9 Maggie’s Farm 8:00 pm [SOLD OUT]
March 10 UU Magee Great Hall Music@ONE 1:15pm -2:10 pm [SOLD OUT]
March 11 Whelan's for Nigel Martin 8:30 pm TICKETS
March 12 Limerick Jazz Society for John Daly 8:30 pm INFO
March 13 Island Arts Centre 8:00 pm TICKETS
March 14 Flowerfield Arts Centre Deborah 8:00 pm TICKETS
March 15 Sligo Jazz and Hawk's Well Theatre 8:00 pm TICKETS
For ticket and other related info, see http://www.jonherington.com/touring.html
Check out this YouTube Video all about Beard + Herington's "Chunks and Chairknobs":
https://youtu.be/euklbIfq414
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Subject: Catherine Russell Touring
Catherine has an extensive set of dates between now and the Steely Dan shows that start in May and beyond, including the Chicago Blues Fest in June. Check out her "events" page for the full schedule:
http://www.catherinerussell.net/itinerary.php
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Subject: 3/17: Michael Leonhart Orchestra at Jazz Standard, NYC
Michael Leonhart Orchestra (MLO) will play their monthly shows at NYC's Jazz Standard Tuesday, March 17. More details, including Ticket info:
http://www.jazzstandard.com/?event=20200317
"Jazz Standard is thrilled to welcome back Michael Leonhart Orchestra featuring members of Antibalas, presenting the Afrobeat Suite. James Brown and Meryl Streep, Wu–Tang Clan and Bruno Mars – these are just a few of the boldfaced names with whom GRAMMY Award winner Michael Leonhart has collaborated as a trumpeter, composÂer, producer, and arranger. Leonhart played trumpet on “Uptown Funk,†the international smash hit by Bruno Mars & Mark Ronson that won the 2016 GRAMMY Award for Record Of The Year; he’s been a member of the Steely Dan touring group since 1996 and appeared on their 2000 release Two Against Nature, winner of the 2000 GRAMMY Award for Album Of The Year. But the project closest to his own heart is the genre–crossing Michael Leonhart Orchestra (MLO), a 15–piece modern big band that has been electriÂfying Jazz Standard audiences every month. The MLO performs Michael Leonhart’s original compositions alongside his imaginative arrangements of songs by (among others) Wu-Tang Clan, Fela Kuti, Duke Ellington, and Frank Zappa. His ensemble features players from such esteemed organizations as the Dap–Kings, the Mingus Big Band, and “The Tonight Show†band (The Roots).
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Subject: 2015: Watch DF Salute Sonny Rollins
Watch Steely Dan's Donald Fagen Perform 'Paul's Pal' at the Apollo Theater
Rolling Stone
Steely Dan co-leader Donald Fagen performed "Paul's Pal" in tribute to 85-year-old saxophone legend Sonny Rollins, the recipient of the JFA's Lifetime Achievement Award.
https://youtu.be/aF_-Jt3WilM
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Subject: Greg Philliganes on Recording with DF
KEYBOARDMAG.COM
Greg Phillinganes: Pop Music's Most Revered Session and Touring Keyboardist on a Life Reflected in Music
"The first song I played on was “I.G.Y.†Donald had a drum machine he called Wendel [A one-of-a-kind digital sampler/sequencer developed by engineer Roger Nichols. —Ed.] and we started recording with just Wendel and myself. I was playing Rhodes, and the song was so hauntingly beautiful, I actually remember messing up intentionally, just so I could go back and play it again. At the end of “Maxine,†I was so taken with the song, I felt compelled to blaze all over the last set of chords on the ending on piano. I just couldn’t help myself. Donald also taught me how to conceptualize playing an upright bass part on a synthesizer by telling me, “Take a breath between every note".
https://www.keyboardmag.com/artists/greg-phillinganes-pop-musics-most-revered-session-and-touring-keyboardist-on-a-life-reflected-in-music
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Subject: "Infamy," Burroughs, & DF
YOUTUBE.COM
A New Standard by Which to Measure Infamy - William S. Burroughs
From the CD 'Dead City Radio'
Not sure this made it into any kind of collective chat, but discovered, reading a book about the guy who effectively named our favorite band, and his relation to rock. Don did background sounds on this cut. Not exactly a lost gem (more like an oddity), but worth sharing I thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSAIKtJPU5Q
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From: Chris Ess
Date: February 10, 2020
Subject: Interview on Mastering 2vN for Vinyl
Not sure if this was shared yet - interview about mastering "Two Against Nature" (2vN) for vinyl (and working with DF/WB in general) from the mastering engineer. Starts around 11 minutes in. Great story about how (and when) the backing vocals for Cousin Dupree came about.
https://www.buzzsprout.com/407404/1842850
(Note: 2vN was released on vinyl in Germany on 2000, but without input from Donald and Walter. A new vinyl version is forthcoming.)
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Subject: 2018: The Jazz Influence on Steely Dan
The Baltimmore Kissa Society
The Jazz Influence on Steely Dan, or Adventures with Admiral Analog's Audio Assortment, Part 3 of 8 Our last Listening Party featured tracks by Steely Dan and the jazz legends that influenced them. The Dan has always walked a fine line: were they rocking jazz artists? A jazzy pop band? In the end...
Continues at https://www.baltimorekissasociety.com/albumart/steelydan
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Subject: REDUX: 2020 SD Tour Announced-Tix on Sale
STEELY DAN WITH STEVE WINWOOD ANNOUNCE “EARTH AFTER HOURS†2020 SUMMER TOUR
Steely Dan's Earth After Hours summer tour with Steve Winwood, will be playing amphitheaters across North America. Fans can expect to hear all the hits from both iconic acts. The outing will visit outdoor venues including Seattle, Toronto, Memphis, Los Angeles, and more.
Citi is the official presale credit card of the tour. As such, Citi cardmembers will have access to purchase presale tickets beginning Monday, January 20th at...
Continues at https://www.steelydan.com/#!/news/298900
"Earth After Hours" (Steely Dan with Steve Winwood)
June 2 -- Portland, OR -- Veterans Memorial Coliseum
June 4 -- Auburn, WA -- White River Amphitheatre
June 6 -- Concord, CA -- Concord Pavilion
June 8 -- Los Angeles, CA -- Hollywood Bowl
June 9 -- Chula Vista, CA -- North Island Credit Union Amphitheatre
June 11 -- Phoenix, AZ -- Ak-Chin Pavilion
June 13 -- Fort Worth, TX -- Dickies Arena
June 14 -- Woodlands, TX -- The Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion
June 17 -- Rogers, AR -- Walmart AMP
June 19 -- Atlanta, GA -- Cadence Bank Amphitheatre at Chastain Park
June 20 -- Memphis, TN -- Venue & Ticket Info Still TBA as of 2/27/2020
June 23 -- Toronto, ON -- Budweiser Stage
June 24 -- Clarkston, MI -- DTE Energy Music Theatre
June 26 -- Tinley Park, IL -- Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre
June 28 -- Cincinnati, OH -- Riverbend Music Center
June 30 -- Saratoga Springs, NY -- Saratoga Performing Arts Center
July 1 -- Mansfield, MA -- Xfinity Center
July 3 -- Syracuse, NY -- St. Joseph's Health Amphitheater at Lakeview
July 5 -- Wantagh, NY -- Northwell Health at Jones Beach Theater
July 7 -- Vienna, VA -- Wolf Trap*
July 8 -- Vienna, VA -- Wolf Trap*
July 10 -- Holmdel, NJ -- PNC Bank Arts Center
July 11 -- Bethel, NY -- Bethel Woods Center for the Arts
Additionally, three Steely Dan shows (without Steve Winwood) originally scheduled for last month have been rescheduled as follows--Tickets are already on sale:
May 26 -- Austin, TX -- ACL Live
May 27 -- Austin, TX -- ACL Live
May 29 -- Thackerville, OK -- Winstar Casino & Resort
The official tour schedule, along with direct links to ticket purchase links, can be found at https://www.steelydan.com/#!/events?page=1
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The Dandom Digest would like to support your new album release by sending a special edition of the Dandom Digest. The Dandom Digest wants to do its part to help get the word out about your labor of love. The Dandom Digest goes to approximately 1,750 hardcore Steely Dan fans. Email jjmckay at me.com for info when the release is approaching. Thank you!
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Subject: Sad News About Steely Doc
Sad to report that Tom "Doc" Boguski passed away peacefully in his sleep on Thursday, February 27, 2020. Doc was especially known among long-time Steely Dan fans and Steely Dan Orchestra alums for his custom Steely Dan-themed Pennsylvania license plates such as "W BECKER," "D FAGEN," "CARLOCK," "STELY DAN," "J HRNGTN," "J BEARD," "SD ROG," "C LNHART," "CAT RUSL," etc.
Our condolences to Doc's loved ones and friends. He will be missed.
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Date: Fri, February 28, 2020, 17:24:58 ET
Posted by: Denise, Hinktown
So very sorry to hear about Doc. He was a very kind person. I only me him once in NYC about 10 years ago, and after that trip he sent me CDs of a few live shows that I treasure. Sad day.
Date: Fri, February 28, 2020, 14:18:07 ET
Posted by: Don Patrol, Mtl
Met Doc a few times in NYC. A great guy and knowledgeable Danfan. RIP Doc.
Date: Fri, February 28, 2020, 00:26:49 ET
Posted by: web drone, -
Oh, that is truly sad news.. Warm wishes to all who knew and loved Tom.
And to us all, a big long hug to everyone we love.
Date: Thurs, February 27, 2020, 23:52:31 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Some sad news....
Sad to report that Tom "Doc" Boguski passed away peacefully in his sleep on Thursday, February 27, 2020. Doc was especially known among Steely Dan fans and Steely Dan Orchestra alums for his custom Steely Dan-themed Pennsylvania license plates such as "W BECKER," "D FAGEN," "CARLOCK," "STELY DAN," "J HRNGTN," "J BEARD," etc.
Our condolences to Doc's loved ones and friends. He will be missed.
Date: Wed, February 26, 2020, 23:06:21 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Bending - that was a good for a laugh.
To prove Nicholas Pell's central premise, I noticed a probable mistake in the middle of the article. Pell gave a shout out to a Moog synth as the instrument soloed in the middle of King of the World.
As many know here, it was an ARP synthesizer. I assume an ARP 2600P with keyboard (confirmed on the Steve Hoffman board).
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Arp2600bluemarvin.jpg
Fagen had a bugger of a time tuning the monophonic thing, and thus hours and days of endless and soul crushing frustration culminated in a hydrocarbon fueled bonfire of the instrument... with the carcass then summarily tossed down the stairs.
Date: Wed, February 26, 2020, 20:53:12 ET
Posted by: The Bending End, RI
Wow, haven't been on here in years.
Will be attending Mansfield, MA on July 1.
I don't see that this has been posted here; sorry if I missed it:
https://www.laweekly.com/steely-dan-fans-are-assholes
Date: Wed, February 26, 2020, 16:10:15 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
A couple of tangential Dan references (intended?) on Love Guarantee from Young Gun Silver Fox, the Andy Platts Shawn Lee collaboration.
"One of a kind, no fugazi"
Like Miss Fugazi from Everything Must Go - "fugazi" is slang for fake, a bastardization of an Italian phrase...In EMG, Miss Fugazi is the hot Asian administrative assistant who may join in the party.
0:34
https://youtu.be/94dPk7TjaR0
Tasty horns throughout. DFs may hear some deja vu in the instrumental break at 2:53. Reminiscent of a number of Fagen horn figures... It reminds me a little of the Alive in America version of Sign in Stranger - not nearly as sophisticated or Big Band like...
Platts slips in a lot of the major and minor sharp, flat 7ths, suspended, diminished jazz, R&B chords that are part of the Dan and McDoobies sound.
Date: Wed, February 26, 2020, 15:21:35 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
lol Sorry, that's G. Gordon Liddy, of Watergate plumber infamy.
Date: Tues, February 25, 2020, 19:47:12 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
My Old School - Daddy G (Gordon G. Liddy) shout out.
Date: Tues, February 25, 2020, 19:43:37 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
All political Steely Dan/Fagen/Becker...now they often dealt with the human condition as affected or affecting policy, public events, etc. Often tangentially related.
Kings
Only a Fool Would Say That
King of the World (tangential)
Pretzel Logic (tangential)
Chain Lightning (40 years later)
Royal Scam
Don't Take Me Alive (more topical about loner terrorists than political)
Third World Man (same)
IGY (What could have been)
New Frontier (Shelter as Consequence of Cold War)
Goodbye Look
Fall of '92
Jack of Speed
Everything Must Go
Morph the Cat
Selfish Gene (tangential - bridge)
Great Pagoda of Funn
Mary Shut the Garden Door (midsized luxury cars)
Date: Tues, February 25, 2020, 11:21:04 ET
Posted by: Debs!, ooh
Dandom dot com slash twitter now doing presidential endorsements at the Blue, I thought eliminating political hack-hack was why we started this in 2001?
Date: Sat, February 22, 2020, 18:25:30 ET
Posted by: Dan Belcher, Louisville, KY
I'm a huge fan of Walter Becker's solo work, and in particular Downtown Canon is such a strikingly beautiful and haunting song. Once I learned how to play it, I decided to record myself playing it on my Rhodes electric piano along with bass and vocals. Of course it's not as good as Walter's original (I mean, what is??), but I hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoyed playing it.
https://youtu.be/HM95VcrSvlg
Date: Fri, February 21, 2020, 01:41:17 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, these tabs are iffy?
For you chord sluts out there (and you know who you are), OMG the chords from Lazy Nina. A bit of Stevie Wonder-esque + the usual DF suspects.
https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/greg-phillinganes/lazy-nina-chords-2505360
Date: Fri, February 21, 2020, 01:24:17 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
P: JFC - fantastic stuff. I'm a huge fan of GP from Fagen to MJ to Toto to Q to the cover of Lazy Nina.
The piano, solo, and finish of Maxine are breathtaking work.
BTW, Ricky Lawson on the "drums" on Lazy Nina.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJMelsJukC0
Date: Tues, February 18, 2020, 09:08:50 ET
Posted by: P, NYC
Amazing interview with Greg Phillinganes.
"The first song I played on was “I.G.Y.†Donald had a drum machine he called Wendel [A one-of-a-kind digital sampler/sequencer developed by engineer Roger Nichols. —Ed.] and we started recording with just Wendel and myself. I was playing Rhodes, and the song was so hauntingly beautiful, I actually remember messing up intentionally, just so I could go back and play it again. At the end of “Maxine,†I was so taken with the song, I felt compelled to blaze all over the last set of chords on the ending on piano. I just couldn’t help myself. Donald also taught me how to conceptualize playing an upright bass part on a synthesizer by telling me, “Take a breath between every note".
https://www.keyboardmag.com/artists/greg-phillinganes-pop-musics-most-revered-session-and-touring-keyboardist-on-a-life-reflected-in-music
Date: Mon, February 17, 2020, 22:49:24 ET
Posted by: lyric finder #2, city of broad shoulders
lyric finder, the word is
alms
Date: Mon, February 17, 2020, 18:25:50 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Steve:
Thanks for posting that. I'm actually impressed with the people who made the quiz. Usually when game shows have references to Steely Dan, their painfully lame questions or references With the most challenging being the cliché topics of Chevy Chase and That their name was taken from William Burroughs novel. that their name was taken from William Burroughs novel. Sounds to me like the writer of the quiz questions are true fans.
Date: Mon, February 17, 2020, 15:42:43 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
So the questions were (in no particular order)
What was Donald studying at Bard? (Eng Lit I think, didn't get it)
Support act (Brit guitarist Keyboard player) on recent tour (got Winwood!)
British percussionist who died (Feldman, forgot he was British!)
IGY stands for (got it!)
What song did Fagen think dumb, Becker no fun to play (Reelin', got it)
Title of Donalds 3rd solo album (Morph, got it)
Band Becker produced for Flaunt in 1985 (China Crisis, got it)
Instrument mentioned in first line of parkers band (both myself and the contestant weirdly said horn and got it wrong, it's sax)
Album Rikki's on (Pretzel, got it)
Album Gary Katz produced in 1986 (Zazu, got it)
Who sang I mean to shine, La Streisand (got it)
Instrument played by Chuck Rainey (Bass, got it)
I got 9, the contestant got 10 and won after the general knowledge round, it's quite tough if you're doing it live with the show as you have to answer before the contestant so you have maybe 2 or 3 seconds! Annoyed not to get Feldman though!
Date: Mon, February 17, 2020, 12:45:13 ET
Posted by: lyric finder, tt
i was listening to linda hoover's version of "jones" on soundcloud
i wish someone could help me with a lyric in the song.
specifically when the line goes the days of ? has past no rainbows to be had. what is the word in question.
Date: Fri, February 14, 2020, 12:41:47 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
Damm typo, it's Mastermind obviously, not Matermind.....
Date: Fri, February 14, 2020, 12:40:16 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
For all UK Bluebookers this coming Monday's episode of Matermind has one of the contestants answering questions on Steely Dan as his (her?) specialist subject. Anything over 10 is a pretty good score, I'll be posting back after the show with how I did (I'll be honest...promise!) and would be interested to see how everyone else here does.
ps: it's on at 7.30 pm BBC 2 Mon 17th.
Date: Wed, February 12, 2020, 16:10:05 ET
Posted by: BenJammin, Snowy Indy
Here's a new first concert for the decade...
http://www.stifeltheatre.com/events/detail/variety-childrens-charity-featuring-steely-dan
Date: Mon, February 10, 2020, 13:43:12 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Not sure if this has been posted - interview with Scott Hull about mastering TvN for vinyl (starts about 11 min in):
https://www.buzzsprout.com/407404/1842850
Date: Thurs, February 06, 2020, 14:43:22 ET
Posted by: Gabe, PA
Thanks for the link. Also found this 1991 interview on that site.
https://freshairarchive.org/segments/musician-donald-fagen
Date: Tues, February 04, 2020, 19:37:49 ET
Posted by: Jason, F
1993 spoken review of Kamakiriad by Ken Tucker. He wrote favorably about SD for Rolling Stone in the 1970s.
https://freshairarchive.org/segments/kamakiriad-reunites-steely-dans-founders
Date: Tues, February 04, 2020, 12:01:24 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Bobbo:
I remember "The Finer Things" from early on in "The King of Comedy," I believe in a street scene--are you saying it's played elsewhere in the movie? If so, cool, but I don't remember that.
Most all of you know, but in case someone doesn't, "The Finer Things" was written by Donald for the soundtrack to "King of Comedy," where the track is officially credited to David Sanborn. Nevertheless, it sounds so distinctly Donald, I always think of it as a Donald Fagen solo track. Donald is credited only on backing vocals, but look at the musician credits--looks right off a Steely Dan or DF solo album: http://www.steelydan.nl/versioninfo.jsp?sid=171&vid=1
Date: Mon, February 03, 2020, 22:17:14 ET
Posted by: bobbo, poolside
Holy Waitaminute,
Did I just hear a snatch of "The Finer Things" in the big middle of Scorsese's 'The King of Comedy'?!
Date: Mon, February 03, 2020, 08:28:54 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Doc, I share your appreciation for Trick of the Tail. Following The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and Peter Gabriel striking out on his own could have led to disaster. It didn't. Trick of the Tail is full of splended musicianship, to be sure.
Date: Sun, February 02, 2020, 23:11:53 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
pending induction
Date: Sun, February 02, 2020, 23:11:16 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Congrats to Michael McDonald and Skunk for their induction into the R&RHOF with the Doobies.
I was trying to think of an album where the musicianship of a pop/rock album was as good as Aja - except Royal Scam and Katy Lied, naturally.
It might be Genesis' Trick of the Tail. Phil Collins deserves his share of slag, but his drumming during this BrandX era is superb, and he's not singing with his cartoon voice yet. Flawlessly executing wicked time signature changes, heavy fusion, and nuances. Hackett and Banks are also absolutely on top of their game. The follow-up tour might have been even better, as they were joined by wunder fusion drummer Bill Bruford.
Imagine that if Walter and Donald had actually gone on the road to support Aja, which in retrospect would have brought more life to the Gaucho sessions...the two bands would have been touring the Southland within months of each other. What could have been.
Date: Fri, January 31, 2020, 17:59:03 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Here's the combined content of the last two Dandom Digests dated 1/1-18 & 1/19-31/2020. The last one just mailed a few minutes ago. Thanks as always for your support and readership.
Jim
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DANDOM DIGEST
January 1-18, 2020
Yr. 28, No. 1
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IN THIS DANDOM DIGEST
2020 SD Tour Announced-Tix on Sale This Week
Early 11TOW Tracking Session On YouTube
Re: Early 11TOW Tracking Session On YouTube
Mike McD, Jeff Baxter, Doobies in Rock Hall
Ground UP Music Fest: Mike McD Quintet, Chris Potter, Carlock, Krantz, More
Catherine Russell Touring, Up for Grammy
Michael Leonhart Orchestra at Jazz Standard, NYC
Beard + Herington Shows
Walt Weiskopf on Tour
Calling All Current SD Orchestra Members & Alums
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Date: Wed, January 15, 2020, 12:52:44 ET
Subject: 2020 SD Tour Announced-Tix on Sale This Week
STEELY DAN WITH STEVE WINWOOD ANNOUNCE “EARTH AFTER HOURS†2020 SUMMER TOUR
Steely Dan announced their Earth After Hours summer tour with Steve Winwood, playing amphitheaters across North America. Fans can expect to hear all the hits from both iconic acts. The outing will visit outdoor venues including Seattle, Toronto, Memphis, Los Angeles, and more.
Citi is the official presale credit card of the tour. As such, Citi cardmembers will have access to purchase presale tickets beginning Monday, January 20th at...
Continues at https://www.steelydan.com/#!/news/298900
"Earth After Hours" (Steely Dan with Steve Winwood)
June 2 -- Portland, OR -- Veterans Memorial Coliseum
June 4 -- Auburn, WA -- White River Amphitheatre
June 6 -- Concord, CA -- Concord Pavilion
June 8 -- Los Angeles, CA -- Hollywood Bowl
June 9 -- Chula Vista, CA -- North Island Credit Union Amphitheatre
June 11 -- Phoenix, AZ -- Ak-Chin Pavilion
June 13 -- Fort Worth, TX -- Dickies Arena
June 14 -- Woodlands, TX -- The Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion
June 17 -- Rogers, AR -- Walmart AMP
June 19 -- Atlanta, GA -- Cadence Bank Amphitheatre at Chastain Park
June 20 -- Memphis, TN -- Venue & Ticket Info TBA
June 23 -- Toronto, ON -- Budweiser Stage
June 24 -- Clarkston, MI -- DTE Energy Music Theatre
June 26 -- Tinley Park, IL -- Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre
June 28 -- Cincinnati, OH -- Riverbend Music Center
June 30 -- Saratoga Springs, NY -- Saratoga Performing Arts Center
July 1 -- Mansfield, MA -- Xfinity Center
July 3 -- Syracuse, NY -- St. Joseph's Health Amphitheater at Lakeview
July 5 -- Wantagh, NY -- Northwell Health at Jones Beach Theater
July 7 -- Vienna, VA -- Wolf Trap*
July 8 -- Vienna, VA -- Wolf Trap*
July 10 -- Holmdel, NJ -- PNC Bank Arts Center
July 11 -- Bethel, NY -- Bethel Woods Center for the Arts
Additionally, three Steely Dan shows (without Steve Winwood) originally scheduled for last month have been rescheduled as follows--Tickets are already on sale:
May 26 -- Austin, TX -- ACL Live
May 27 -- Austin, TX -- ACL Live
May 29 -- Thackerville, OK -- Winstar Casino & Resort
The official tour schedule, along with direct links to ticket purchase links, can be found at https://www.steelydan.com/#!/events?page=1
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Subject: Early 11TOW Tracking Session On YouTube
The latest Walter Becker is out...with the added bonus of an "11 Tracks of Whack"-era demo, "Love In The Fourth" aka "Lies I Can Believe."
Early tracking session for Love In The Fourth/Lies I Can Believe from 11 Tracks of Whack sessions.
https://youtu.be/clnEwTB6tsc
More details at https://www.walterbeckermedia.com/forum/rarities-unreleased/love-in-the-4th-aka-lies-i-can-believe
There was some sort of demo put out briefly by invitation to Walter Becker newsletter subscribers on Friday. My impression is that it was a variation on a demo that used to circulate maybe 20 years ago. when I heard that version some years back, I found it interesting to hear stripped down. Hopefully you got a chance to hear. So with that in mind, it "bee-hooves" you to buzz or otherwise hoof over and sign up for the Official Walter Becker newsletter or to change your subscription info,
http://walterbecker.com/news.html#subscribe That's assuming you aren't already all set.
While we're at it, the Official Walter Becker website is at http://walterbecker.com
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Date: Mon, January 13, 2020, 17:56:11 ET
Subject: Re: Early 11TOW Tracking Session On YouTube
Posted by: Doc Mu
[But wait! there's more!]
Yeah, here's the next layer of "Lies I Can Believe."
https://youtu.be/XhL4CT5RKVk
One of the best that ended up in the can.
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Date: Thurs, January 16, 2020, 15:27:39 ET
Posted by: Paul,
Subject: Mike McD, Jeff Baxter, Doobies in Rock Hall
Congratulations to Michael McDonald & Jeff Baxter being inducted into the rock 'n' roll Hall of Fame as part of the Doobie Brothers. No word on whether Cornelius Bumpus will also be included, although I think he was only on the last album or two.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/michael-mcdonald-doobie-brothers-hall-of-fame-interview-937669/
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Subject: Ground UP Music Fest: Mike McD Quintet, Chris Potter, Carlock, Krantz, More
Michael McDonald Quitet with Chris Potter & Others
Krantz Carlock LeFebvre
Chris Potter
PLUS Snarky Puppy and many more
February 14-16, 2020
Miami
See https://festival.groundupmusic.net/home for tickets and more details.
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Subject: Catherine Russell Touring, Up for Grammy
Catherine has an extensive set of date between now and the Steely Dan shows that start in May. Check out her "events" page for the full schedule:
http://www.catherinerussell.net/itinerary.php
Meanwhile, Catherine has also been nominated for Best Jazz Vocal Album at the Grammys which will be held January 26. Congratulations!
https://lydialiebman.com/index.php/2019/11/20/4-grammy-nominations-for-llp-artists-catherine-russell-brian-lynch-and-grammy-promo-client-randy-brecker/
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Subject: Michael Leonhart Orchestra at Jazz Standard, NYC
Michael Leonhart Orchestra (MLO) will play their monthly shows at NYC's Jazz Standard Tuesday, February 11. More details, including Ticket info:
http://www.jazzstandard.com/?event=20200211
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Subject: Beard + Herington Shows
Subject: Beard + Herington Dates
Feb 17 Live at the Falcon Marlboro, NY
Feb 23 Hugh's Room Live Toronto, CA
March 5 New Morning Paris
For tickets and other related info, see http://www.jonherington.com/touring.html
Also: Jon will be toring Ireland in March:
TOUR OF IRELAND
March 9 Maggie’s Farm 8:00 pm [SOLD OUT]
March 10 UU Magee Great Hall Music@ONE 1:15pm -2:10 pm [SOLD OUT]
March 11 Whelan's for Nigel Martin 8:30 pm TICKETS
March 12 Limerick Jazz Society for John Daly 8:30 pm INFO
March 13 Island Arts Centre 8:00 pm TICKETS
March 14 Flowerfield Arts Centre Deborah 8:00 pm TICKETS
March 15 Sligo Jazz and Hawk's Well Theatre 8:00 pm TICKETS
Again, for ticket and other related info, see http://www.jonherington.com/touring.html
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Subject: Walt Weiskopf on Tour
Full list of dates:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/waltweiskopf/events/
Check out Walt's new album, too.
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Subject: Calling All Current SD Orchestra Members & Alums
The Dandom Digest would like to support your new album release by sending a special edition of the Dandom Digest. The Dandom Digest wants to do its part to help get the word out about your labor of love. The Dandom Digest goes to approximately 1,750 hardcore Steely Dan fans. Email jjmckay at me.com for info when the release is approaching. Thank you!
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Why don't I believe them?"
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DANDOM DIGEST
January 19-31, 2020
Yr. 28, No. 2
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IN THIS DANDOM DIGEST
NOW! Keith Carlock On Tour with...
Subject: 2/11: Michael Leonhart Orchestra at Jazz Standard, NYC
REDUX: Mike McD, Jeff Baxter, Doobies in Rock Hall
REDUX: Ground UP Music Fest: Mike McD Quintet, Chris Potter, Carlock, Krantz, More
REDUX: Catherine Russell Touring
REDUX: Beard + Herington Shows
2/7 & 8: Walt Weiskopf European Quartet
REDUX: 2020 SD Tour Announced-Tix on Sale
Calling All Current SD Orchestra Members & Alums
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Subject: NOW! Keith Carlock On Tour with...
Krantz/Carlock/Lefebvre
The tour continues through Leap Day.
KCL (KRANTZ CARLOCK LEFEBVRE)
(from https://www.reggieslive.com/show/kcl-krantz-carlock-lefebvre/ )
KCL, the iconic, genre-bending powerhouse trio led by visionary guitarist Wayne Krantz and featuring drummer Keith Carlock (Steely Dan, Sting, John Mayer) and bassist Tim Lefebvre (Tedeschi Trucks Band, David Bowie), held a Thursday-night residency at NYC’s 55 Bar throughout the first decade of the new millenium. Cutting live recordings from the club and posting them online in the early days of the internet and touring only sporadically, KCL developed a thoroughly original style of interactive group improvisation inspired in part by the great Miles Davis Quintet of the 60s, but played out in spontaneously generated contexts of heavy funk, rock and electronica instead of straight-ahead swing.
As other instrumental bands of the day dabbled in derivative fusion and retro-jazz, KCL became an underground phenomenon, cultivating an international following of devoted fans of every stripe looking for an alternative creative music that served the mind, body and spirit. Relentlessly grooving, always innovative, never complacent – KCL made contemporary music that resonated beyond category.
Other sideman obligations sidelined the band soon after their Abstract Logix release, “Krantz Carlock Lefebvre,†in 2010, but their reputation continued to expand globally through fan circulation of the band’s many live videos and recordings. Now, in 2020, KCL re-ignites to tour with incendiary shows throughout the USA, Europe and Asia.
http://www.waynekrantz.com/
https://keithcarlock.com/
https://www.timlefebvremusic.com/
2020-01-31, Iridium Jazz Club, New York, NY
2020-02-01, Iridium Jazz Club, New York, NY
2020-02-06, Sweetwater Music Hall, Mill Valley, CA
2020-02-07, Dazzle Jazz Club, Denver, CO
2020-02-08, Reggies Rock Club, Chicago, IL
2020-02-11, City Winery, Nashville, TN
2020-02-12, The Ardmore Music Hall, Ardmore, PA
2020-02-15, The Velvet Note, Alpharetta, GA
2020-02-16, Groundup Festival, Miami Beach
2020-02-18, Ronnie Scott's, London, UK
2020-02-19, Ronnie Scott's, London, UK
2020-02-20, Müpa Budapest, Budapest, Hungary
2020-02-21, Porgy & Bess, Vienna, Austria
2020-02-22, Bimhuis, Amsterdam, Holland
2020-02-23, LantarenVenster, Rotterdam, Holland
2020-02-24, G Livelab, Helsinki, Finland
2020-02-25, G Livelab, Helsinki, Finland
2020-02-26, M8-Liveclub, Mainz, Germany
2020-02-28, Jazz Dock, Prague, Cz
2020-02-29, Zig Zag Jazz Club Berlin, Berlin, Germany
For full details and much, much more, see http://www.keithcarlock.com
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Subject: 2/11: Michael Leonhart Orchestra at Jazz Standard, NYC
Michael Leonhart Orchestra (MLO) will play their monthly shows at NYC's Jazz Standard Tuesday, February 11. More details, including Ticket info:
http://www.jazzstandard.com/?event=20200211
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Date: Thurs, January 16, 2020, 15:27:39 ET
Posted by: Paul,
Subject: REDUX: Mike McD, Jeff Baxter, Doobies in Rock Hall
Congratulations to Michael McDonald & Jeff Baxter being inducted into the rock 'n' roll Hall of Fame as part of the Doobie Brothers. No word on whether Cornelius Bumpus will also be included, although I think he was only on the last album or two.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/michael-mcdonald-doobie-brothers-hall-of-fame-interview-937669/
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Subject: REDUX: Ground UP Music Fest: Mike McD Quintet, Chris Potter, Carlock, Krantz, More
Michael McDonald Quitet with Chris Potter & Others
Krantz Carlock LeFebvre
Chris Potter
PLUS Snarky Puppy and many more
February 14-16, 2020
Miami
See https://festival.groundupmusic.net/home for tickets and more details.
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Subject: Catherine Russell Touring
Catherine has an extensive set of dates between now and the Steely Dan shows that start in May. Check out her "events" page for the full schedule:
http://www.catherinerussell.net/itinerary.php
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Subject: REDUX: Beard + Herington Shows
Subject: Beard + Herington Dates
Feb 17 Live at the Falcon Marlboro, NY
Feb 23 Hugh's Room Live Toronto, CA
March 5 New Morning Paris
For tickets and other related info, see http://www.jonherington.com/touring.html
Also: Jon will be toring Ireland in March:
TOUR OF IRELAND
March 9 Maggie’s Farm 8:00 pm [SOLD OUT]
March 10 UU Magee Great Hall Music@ONE 1:15pm -2:10 pm [SOLD OUT]
March 11 Whelan's for Nigel Martin 8:30 pm TICKETS
March 12 Limerick Jazz Society for John Daly 8:30 pm INFO
March 13 Island Arts Centre 8:00 pm TICKETS
March 14 Flowerfield Arts Centre Deborah 8:00 pm TICKETS
March 15 Sligo Jazz and Hawk's Well Theatre 8:00 pm TICKETS
Again, for ticket and other related info, see http://www.jonherington.com/touring.html
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Subject: 2/7 & 8: Walt Weiskopf European Quartet
Walt Weiskopf European Quartet will plan Odense Denmark on 7 February and Oslo, Norway, 8 February. For more details, see https://www.facebook.com/pg/waltweiskopf/events/
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Subject: REDUX: 2020 SD Tour Announced-Tix on Sale
STEELY DAN WITH STEVE WINWOOD ANNOUNCE “EARTH AFTER HOURS†2020 SUMMER TOUR
Steely Dan's Earth After Hours summer tour with Steve Winwood, will be playing amphitheaters across North America. Fans can expect to hear all the hits from both iconic acts. The outing will visit outdoor venues including Seattle, Toronto, Memphis, Los Angeles, and more.
Citi is the official presale credit card of the tour. As such, Citi cardmembers will have access to purchase presale tickets beginning Monday, January 20th at...
Continues at https://www.steelydan.com/#!/news/298900
"Earth After Hours" (Steely Dan with Steve Winwood)
June 2 -- Portland, OR -- Veterans Memorial Coliseum
June 4 -- Auburn, WA -- White River Amphitheatre
June 6 -- Concord, CA -- Concord Pavilion
June 8 -- Los Angeles, CA -- Hollywood Bowl
June 9 -- Chula Vista, CA -- North Island Credit Union Amphitheatre
June 11 -- Phoenix, AZ -- Ak-Chin Pavilion
June 13 -- Fort Worth, TX -- Dickies Arena
June 14 -- Woodlands, TX -- The Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion
June 17 -- Rogers, AR -- Walmart AMP
June 19 -- Atlanta, GA -- Cadence Bank Amphitheatre at Chastain Park
June 20 -- Memphis, TN -- Venue & Ticket Info TBA
June 23 -- Toronto, ON -- Budweiser Stage
June 24 -- Clarkston, MI -- DTE Energy Music Theatre
June 26 -- Tinley Park, IL -- Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre
June 28 -- Cincinnati, OH -- Riverbend Music Center
June 30 -- Saratoga Springs, NY -- Saratoga Performing Arts Center
July 1 -- Mansfield, MA -- Xfinity Center
July 3 -- Syracuse, NY -- St. Joseph's Health Amphitheater at Lakeview
July 5 -- Wantagh, NY -- Northwell Health at Jones Beach Theater
July 7 -- Vienna, VA -- Wolf Trap*
July 8 -- Vienna, VA -- Wolf Trap*
July 10 -- Holmdel, NJ -- PNC Bank Arts Center
July 11 -- Bethel, NY -- Bethel Woods Center for the Arts
Additionally, three Steely Dan shows (without Steve Winwood) originally scheduled for last month have been rescheduled as follows--Tickets are already on sale:
May 26 -- Austin, TX -- ACL Live
May 27 -- Austin, TX -- ACL Live
May 29 -- Thackerville, OK -- Winstar Casino & Resort
The official tour schedule, along with direct links to ticket purchase links, can be found at https://www.steelydan.com/#!/events?page=1
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Date: Wed, January 29, 2020, 23:10:51 ET
Posted by: CC, F
If you're having trouble getting to sleep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm5yfRfftdw
Date: Wed, January 29, 2020, 11:46:46 ET
Posted by: ,
“Earth After Hours†tour.
Regarding the title, any ideas on the significance? SD tour names are generally pretty abstract, and may just kind of set a tone or mood.
In this case, is the title political? Climate-related? Personal? A combination? Any ideas?
Date: Wed, January 29, 2020, 07:24:14 ET
Posted by: Nicholas Urfe, Phraxos
Listening to "In Cold Blood" on CD in my car. A couple of things that were noticeable in the hearing of the book that might not have stuck out as much in the reading of it predated, but probably didn't presage, SD/Becker lyrics. The Eden Rock is mentioned a few times, and then up pops the line, "to hell and gone."
This has been your In Cold Blood update for Wednesday, January 29.
Date: Tues, January 28, 2020, 08:14:03 ET
Posted by: Dirk, Duesseldorf
I wonder if I'll see them again here in continental europe in my lifetime .... maybe there's a small chance for one of the big festivals here, i.e. Montreux, North Sea Jazz Festival ...
Date: Mon, January 27, 2020, 11:18:58 ET
Posted by: Steely Director, NOLA
Following on the discussion about booking venues and such...
For Tour 2020, Memphis is the closest location for me. However it is the only one with "TBA" for the location, so I can't purchase tickets yet.
I'm curious as to why there might be such a delay in setting up a venue for this one city on the tour.
Date: Sun, January 26, 2020, 16:19:15 ET
Posted by: RIP, Kobe
The LA Concession indeed.
Date: Sat, January 25, 2020, 09:58:01 ET
Posted by: Cheat, B
Very astute rankings of the SD catalog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVCJIi7p3io
Holds up CD: This one is really good.
Holds up another CD: I like this one a little better.
Holds up another CD: I like this one a little better.
Holds up another CD: I like this one a little better. But maybe next week I might change my mind and the previous one is better.
Date: Wed, January 22, 2020, 15:02:09 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando
And when they do come back to Florida, and assuming it is in the summer, let us all join together and pray that they go to RHE and not the amphitheater.
Date: Wed, January 22, 2020, 11:50:27 ET
Posted by: Chris, nh
Great insights Hoops, thanks.
I wonder if there is any difference with the package tours. They appear to be almost all Live Nation sheds.
Date: Tues, January 21, 2020, 23:35:14 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL
Thanks for taking the time to respond, Hoops.
Part of me is actually thankful that Donald is taking it
a little easy this year. Plus we'll appreciate the band just
that much more when they do return.
Keep warm, Steve.
Date: Tues, January 21, 2020, 10:51:57 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
Steve:
Sorry for the delay in responding; moreover, sorry it probably will involve additional expense and effort to get to a show this year, if you are able. I'm not able to travel for various reasons, so it means fewer or no shows where I used to attend.
The info that summer's tour likely won't be more than the six weeks comes from a couple of band members. They need to know so they can plan for other gigs, etc. I can't also think that they don't want to oversaturate the market with too many shows year after year.
I looked back at the 2019 posts; how the tour is plotted was discussed but didn't like how. So here's a fresh response, although it won't solve no dates near you in Florida.
My friend Gary administers the Schottenstein Center--booking etc. Yes, part of what goes in to the decision is indeed whether the act wants to play a town or region. However, from there it is up to the venues. So a band will put out there that are open to date in, say, Florida. They then accept bids/proposals from the concert venues. If they don't get a bid, they won't go there. In his experience, my friend has said there are sometimes acts he'd love to get, but sometimes the expenses or demands. In some deals, the venue only makes money off the expensive beer, snacks and parking, etc. They don't get anything from the actual ticket charge. Some venues will even take a loss but see hosting the show as adding to the venue's prestige and long-term ability to attract other lesser acts.
However, another expense is transportation costs. If there the shows are far apart in distance, they can cost a lot to put on. At the same time, several shows in one area make for more economies. I understand this is an issue for the Pacific Northwest. Hundreds of miles between shows means a lot more expense, etc. So if the place that bids on SD in the Pacific NW is in Seattle, it's probably not cost effective/will lose money just to get there. They need other shows in the area. In Florida, they might need two or three shows on the FLA peninsula to justify transportation costs, relative to attendance and ticket prices.
I think you get a sense of the moving parts behind the scenes...it's much more than whether an act wants to play here or there. They may want to play a town but if they are going to lose money, it may not be feasible.
All that said, I don't understand how they make money on the Interlochen shows at the "top of the mitten" in Michigan. Maybe it's favor to the music school; maybe a supporter has deep pockets, etc.
My friend Gary says don't only petition the band; it's even more important to petition your local venues so they bid on the shows, etc.
Best always,
Jim
Date: Tues, January 21, 2020, 08:56:18 ET
Posted by: Snide, Sneer
https://negativecollection.bigcartel.com/product/steely-dan-october-1973
Date: Tues, January 21, 2020, 08:55:59 ET
Posted by: Snide, Sneer
https://negativecollection.bigcartel.com/product/steely-dan-october-1973
Date: Mon, January 20, 2020, 20:28:27 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL
Thanks for responding, Hoops.
I can't wait to see "Steely Dan" again..Hopefully
Tampa will be on their agenda in 2021 of they don't add a date later this year. Best, Steve.
Date: Mon, January 20, 2020, 18:41:37 ET
Posted by: Jerry, H
You think this guy might have a done a little research before interviewing Walter instead of asking him questions that he could have found the answers to.
"What are you doing in Hawaii?"
"I live here."
"So, that's like your permanent address?"
"That's right."
"So you guys are on your this summer. Who exactly is in the band?"
I had to stop there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0CXX1F7zGs
Date: Mon, January 20, 2020, 16:38:51 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Almost forgot - 2 dates in Austin May 26, 27 at Austin City Limits Theater and the Winstar Casino in Oklahoma.
Date: Mon, January 20, 2020, 16:28:03 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu, Left of the Rio Grande
Steve: Yeah, Cynthia Woods in mid-June will be really hot and sticky. Austin was a better choice last tour.
At least Dickies in Fort Worth is inside.
In 2003, SD hit Dallas in late September - warm, but decent outside weather in the evening by then.
Date: Mon, January 20, 2020, 16:07:47 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Really nice cover of bass, Rhodes, and drums of Kulee Baba. Epic chord changes. Holy f***!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02UFvVW3lNQ
Date: Mon, January 20, 2020, 10:36:34 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando
As to Florida I considered whether there might be a date added, but it seems unlikely because on 6/17 they are in Arkansas, on 6/19 they are in Atlanta, and on 6/20 they are in Memphis. Then on to Canada and no other dates in the SE. The geography doesn't really work unless a lot more dates are added at the end, and Jim seems to believe that is not in the cards this year.
Date: Sun, January 19, 2020, 11:35:31 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Steve:
Actually we did discuss in large part how tour itineraries and which venues are decided. My friend Gary oversees the Schottenstein center in Ohio. He explained it all to me. It's not necessarily what one thinks. I think it was somewhere in the posts from last year. If you scroll down and then go to the 2019 posts it should be described in there; I will fill in the rest later when I'm not at a smart phone where I'm bound to have tons of typos.
Hope everybody's having a great Sunday.
Jim
Date: Sat, January 18, 2020, 21:26:19 ET
Posted by: Steve Gennarelli, Tampa, FL
Who knows the rhyme or reason for how these tour dates get selected. I've always been mystified why Don and Walt used to play outdoor shows in the "dead" of Summer here when they could have a much more enjoyable experience coming here (Tampa) in our Winter months, but they never did.
Date: Sat, January 18, 2020, 12:59:04 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
I've been told by a couple players in the band, that as of now, Donald wants to work a little less this summer and that these dates over the six weeks are pretty much it. I imagine things could change. They didn't say about NYC at the Beacon in the fall.
Best,
Jim
Date: Fri, January 17, 2020, 16:57:57 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine Beach. It's Happy Hour
Casual, do you think that's the extent of the tour? In the past newer dates have been released well after the initial tour was announced. I'd hate to think they are skipping Florida again. I'm holding out some hope.
Date: Fri, January 17, 2020, 12:38:12 ET
Posted by: Casual Fan, Orlando
Second SD tour in a row with no Florida stops.
Starting to get a complex down here.
Date: Thurs, January 16, 2020, 22:58:18 ET
Posted by: CJB, YVR
Booked tix for Jon & Jim in Toronto, February 2020:
https://hughsroomlive.com/event/beard-herington/
Obviously excited for Donald, the SD Orchestra, & Steve Winwood in the summer, but much more stoked by this show.
Date: Thurs, January 16, 2020, 15:27:39 ET
Posted by: Paul,
Congratulations to Michael McDonald & Jeff Baxter being inducted into the rock 'n' roll Hall of Fame as part of the Doobie Brothers. No word on whether Cornelius Bumpus will also be included, although I think he was only on the last album or two.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/michael-mcdonald-doobie-brothers-hall-of-fame-interview-937669/
Date: Wed, January 15, 2020, 12:52:44 ET
Posted by: Yep., Yee-haw!
"Earth After Hours"
https://jambands.com/news/2020/01/15/steely-dan-set-earth-after-hours-summer-tour-with-steve-winwood/?utm_source=Relix+Daily&utm_campaign=471e2308ac-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_01_15_05_11&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_486e6e4b54-471e2308ac-27148347&mc_cid=471e2308ac&mc_eid=8f46c3b885
Jun. 2 -- Portland, Ore. -- Veterans Memorial Coliseum
Jun. 4 -- Auburn, Wash. -- White River Amphitheatre
Jun. 6 -- Concord, Calif. -- Concord Pavilion
Jun. 8 -- Los Angeles, Calif.vHollywood Bowl
Jun. 9 -- Chula Vista, Calif. -- North Island Credit Union Amphitheatre
Jun. 11 -- Phoenix, Ariz. -- Ak-Chin Pavilion
Jun. 13 -- Fort Worth, Texas -- Dickies Arena
Jun. 14 -- Woodlands, Texas -- The Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion
Jun. 17 -- Rogers, Ark. -- Walmart AMP
Jun. 19 -- Atlanta, Ga. -- Cadence Bank Amphitheatre at Chastain Park
Jun. 20 -- Memphis, Tenn. -- TBA
Jun. 23 -- Toronto, Ontario -- Budweiser Stage
Jun. 24 -- Clarkston, Mich. -- DTE Energy Music Theatre
Jun. 26 -- Tinley Park, Ill. -- Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre
Jun. 28 -- Cincinnati, Ohio -- Riverbend Music Center
Jun. 30 -- Saratoga Springs, N.Y. -- Saratoga Performing Arts Center
Jul. 1 -- Mansfield, Mass. -- Xfinity Center
Jul. 3 -- Syracuse, N.Y. -- St. Joseph's Health Amphitheater at Lakeview
Jul. 5 -- Wantagh, N.Y. -- Northwell Health at Jones Beach Theater
Jul. 7 -- Vienna, Va. -- Wolf Trap*
Jul. 8 -- Vienna, Va. -- Wolf Trap*
Jul. 10 -- Holmdel, N.J. -- PNC Bank Arts Center
Jul. 11 -- Bethel, N.Y. -- Bethel Woods Center for the Arts
Date: Wed, January 15, 2020, 12:40:46 ET
Posted by: Woo-hoo!!!!!!!!!!!, USA, USA, USA
TOUR ANNOUNCED w/Steve Winwood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
https://www.steelydan.com/#!/events?page=1
Date: Wed, January 15, 2020, 00:35:25 ET
Posted by: suedave, wherever
I can't listen to this again after yesterday. It was so hauntingly beautiful (yes, better than the released version) I woke up in the middle of the night and couldn't get it out if my head! Kept me awake for too long. Ah, first world problems.
Date: Mon, January 13, 2020, 17:56:11 ET
Posted by: Doc Mu,
Yeah, here's the next layer of "Lies I Can Believe."
https://youtu.be/XhL4CT5RKVk
One of the best that ended up in the can.
Date: Mon, January 13, 2020, 05:06:12 ET
Posted by: hoops, Chicago
Early tracking session for Love In The Fourth/Lies I Can Believe from 11 Tracks of Whack sessions.
https://youtu.be/clnEwTB6tsc
More details at https://www.walterbeckermedia.com/forum/rarities-unreleased/love-in-the-4th-aka-lies-i-can-believe
There was some sort of demo put out briefly by invitation to Walter Becker newsletter subscribers on Friday. I didn't find it in my spam filter until Sat night when I guess it was over. My impression is that it was a variation on a demo that used to circulate maybe 20 years ago. when I heard that version some years back, I found it interesting to hear strip down. Hopefully you got a chance to hear.
Date: Sat, January 11, 2020, 11:56:37 ET
Posted by: R.I.P. Neil, TO
@KeithCarlock
Devastated. HUGE influence on me as a player- as he was for so many. Such a Massive loss to the drumming community and music world. Thank you Neil Peart, my hero. RIP
Date: Sat, January 11, 2020, 08:12:46 ET
Posted by: Dan, Flintshire
Well, there we go then. We know that Third World Man was recorded for Aja - Larry Carlton did not play at any Gaucho session and was confused to read reviews of his work on the album. Therefore, if a brand new song was indeed started from scratch, it wasn't Third World Man. Like I said, there was more than one hole in the album when Walter had to bow out.
Date: Fri, January 10, 2020, 12:41:04 ET
Posted by: Whitney, UT
Happy Birthday Donald Fagen !!!
Date: Fri, January 10, 2020, 00:59:13 ET
Posted by: Rolling Stone, 1981
Katz listened for a while and then sat down to talk. "I would like to think the next album won't take this long," he said. "Donald and I depend on Walter to do some things that we've had to do and that slowed us down. There were other factors that delayed us. An engineer accidentally erased a completed track. That was one of the most serious emotional setbacks we've had in the studio. At the time, it was my favorite tune on the album. We started it again from scratch, building up the rhythm arrangement, the guitars, the voices and, when that didn't pan out, we had to start another tune from scratch." The new number turned out to be "Third World Man", perhaps Gaucho's most striking piece of music.
Date: Wed, January 08, 2020, 11:30:36 ET
Posted by: Dan, Flintshire
Gabe,
I know that's the prevalent story, but at the Rarities night, DF couldn't even remember if The Bear was meant to be on Aja or Gaucho, so these things are all up in the air. Ultimately, I think it comes down to how 'complete' these songs sound. Third World Man sounds like a Steely Dan song. Yes, we know it's from the Aja can, but the lyrics were rewritten, and it may only have not been on Aja due to space. Hey Nineteen sounds rushed. It comes across, on the album, as an afterthought, or even just a demo that was built upon to an acceptable level. We all know Third World Man was added to fill a gap, but we also know there was more than one gap. Kulee Baba, Can't Write Home About You, Thinkin' 'Bout My Home and more could have been there too, but weren't. Indeed, even The Bear had been recorded and not used. I'm just suggesting that Hey Nineteen is the crack in Gaucho revealing the problems beneath. Still a great album though.
Date: Tues, January 07, 2020, 17:11:09 ET
Posted by: Gabe, PA
Third World Man replaced 2A.
They probably made some concessions on Hey 19 (musically and lyrically) to make sure it went over as radio fodder.
Date: Tues, January 07, 2020, 14:58:22 ET
Posted by: Dan, Flintshire
RE Hey 19
I agree. In fact, I'd go further and say that, upon many listenings over the years, I almost feel Hey 19 to be unfinished. It feels lacking in a way that almost no other SD song ever does. This is especially true if you listen to a good live version where the horn parts and a solo at the end -- usually Jim Pugh on the 'bone -- seems to complete what was left incomplete on Gaucho. The fact too that it comes from Gaucho -- an album noted in its issues -- does suggest that maybe, just maybe Hey 19 was added to fill the hole of, say Second Arrangement, and, despite not being finished, DF -- who was left to complete the album on his own in WB's absence -- felt it was the best of the bunch that he could have chosen. The more I listen, the more the spaces scream out. Why no guitar solo after the bridge? Why nothing to note at the end, once the squeaky synth has finished? Perhaps we are spoilt by live versions that correct this, but I do feel, on balance, that Hey 19 is NOT complete as it appears on Gaucho.
Date: Tues, January 07, 2020, 06:17:26 ET
Posted by: Steve M, Scotland
Re Burt's comment
One of the things that I find unique about Steely Dan is just how well the music stands up to repetition, I've listened to those first 7 albums more than any other music over the past 40 years and they still delight and inspire. I'm guessing it's mainly because the core songs are just so damm good, the lyrics suggest mini movies but are open to interpretation and of course the number of layers of 'good things' in the music, a horn chart, a backing voc, a guitar solo, a particular chord progression or voicing, a drum track, a subtle little hidden acoustic guitar part...it goes on!
I would have to agree with Burt though that Hey 19 is not a track that I find myself actively seeking out. Equally 'Reelin'' leaves me cold although having said that, the live reworking from the 90's really freshend it up which I guess was the whole point (the same trick also worked with the more recent live take on Show Biz Kids).
Date: Tues, January 07, 2020, 01:00:26 ET
Posted by: Burt, "On location"
Any SD songs that you've just heard enough of for a lifetime and can no longer rejuvenate any freshness even after having not heard them in a while?
Topping my list is Hey Nineteen. Gaucho will always be a fresh listen for me every now and again, but Hey 19 is too careful and mechanical. It's all used up for me.
Date: Thurs, January 02, 2020, 23:53:36 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
ACT NOW!
VOTE FOR STEELY DAN ORCHESTRA PLAYERS & ALUMS IN THE
2019 JAZZ TIMES READER POLL
ONLINE VOTING ENDS NOON, THIS MONDAY, 1/6/2020
Be sure to vote for Catherine Russell, Michael Leonhart, Herington + Beard, Jon Herington, Jim Beard, LaTanya Hall, Roger Rosenberg, Walt Weiskopf, Jim Pugh, Freddie Washington, as well as "Dangential Talent" like Don Breithaupt & Monkey House, and all of our other favorite Steely Dan Orchestra players.
In some cases, the aforementioned are named on the ballot (Example: Cartherine Russell for Best Vocal Release category, Michael Leonhart Orchestra for Best Big Band/Large Ensemble, etc), while others may not be listed but you can write in a name (Example: Roger Rosenberg in Baritone Sax category, Jim Pugh in Trombone category, etc.).
And don't forget Best Record Label category with the likes of Sunnyside, Alma, Dot Time, and several others distributing our favorite SD Orchestra member recordings.
SPECIAL NOTE: Please vote only once. Ballot stuffing can result in disqualifications; see the online ballot for voting rules.
WHERE TO VOTE:
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Let's support our friends in the Steely Dan Orchestra as they make great music for us!
Date: Wed, January 01, 2020, 23:45:42 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
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DANDOM DIGEST
December 12-31, 2019
Yr. 27, No. 13
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IN THIS DANDOM DIGEST
Listen Again! Michael Leonhart on NPR "Toast of the Town 2020"
Joe Jackson's Cover of Night By Night now on Apple Music
Beard + Herington Perform 2/23/20 in Toronto
Connor Kennedy Guests with Gov't Mule
Catherine Russell on NPR "'Fresh Air' Favorites"!
Jeff Baxter Guitar Player Magazine Redux
REDUX: December Shows Rescheduled For May
REDUX: Latest WB Demo, Newsletter
Calling All Current SD Orchestra Members & Alums
RIP, Michael Lamper of Steely Jam
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Subject: Listen Again! Michael Leonhart on NPR "Toast of the Town 2020"
Even if you missed it, you can still hear Michael Leonhart Orchestra (MSO) performance from NYC's Jazz Standard. The "Toast of the Town" airedd WBGO and many other NPR stations right after midnight. Special guest, trumpeter Keyon Harrold, was also featured.
If you missed it, you can still listen (as of 1/1/2020) at https://www.npr.org/2019/12/26/787762117/toast-of-the-nation-2020-the-jazz-collective-edition (Scroll down a bit on the page for the description of the MSO performance.)
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Subject: Joe Jackson's Cover of Night By Night now on Apple Music
Last winter, Joe Jackson released his cover of "Night By Night" in a special vinyl edition. It's now available at Apple Music (and probably other services as well). Check it out.
https://music.apple.com/�/�/night-by-night-single/1492016028
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Subject: Beard + Herington Perform 2/23/20 in Toronto, Paris
Jim Beard and Jon Herington of Steely Dan at Hugh's Room Live
Public � Hosted by Hugh's Room Live and Jon Herington
InterestedGoingShare
Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 8:30 PM � 11 PM EST
Hugh's Room Live
2261 Dundas St W, Toronto, Ontario M6R1X6
More details on the Toronto show at https://hughsroomlive.com/event/beard-herington/
For additional dates, including a likely Paris show in early March, stay tuned to http://www.jonherington.com/touring.html
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Subject: Connor Kennedy Guests with Gov't Mule
Connor Kennedy guested with Government Mule for their shows December 30 & 31, 2019 at NYC's Beacon. Gov't Mule's Warren Haynes* is a huge SD fan, sighted more than few times in the audience and backstage at Steely Dan shows.
(Yes, there was a typo I missed in the Digest mailing; I corrected here.)
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Subject: Catherine Russell on NPR "'Fresh Air' Favorites"!
Encore presentation of Catherine Russell's NPR Fresh Air interview.
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/01/792601770/fresh-air-favorites-catherine-russell
Catherine's latest. "Alone Together," is up for Best Jazz Vocal Album at the Grammys this year.
Buy at: http://www.catherinerussell.net/listen.php
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From: <dannyfisher AT fuse.net>
Subject: Jeff Baxter Guitar Player Magazine Redux
Date: December 15, 2019 at 8:57:14 PM CST
Here's a great article to share with the community. I've been a subscriber to GP for long enough to remember this article when it originally ran, and specifically recall the part about JSB's percussionist-like approach to the guitar.
Here it is: https://www.guitarplayer.com/players/gp-flashback-jeff-baxter-december-1980
An amazing read about one of the most innovative ax-slingers, ever! Enjoy!
Danny Fisher
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Subject: REDUX: December Shows Rescheduled For May
The Steely Dan shows scheduled for the end of December have been rescheduled for late May 2020. Will that mean an early summer tour in 2020? Only Donald's hairdresser knows for sure.
More details:
https://www.steelydan.com/#!/events?page=1
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Subject: REDUX: Latest WB Demo, Newsletter
The latest Walter Becker is out...with the added bonus of an "11 Tracks of Whack"-era demo, "War."
The link to "War" is at https://www.walterbeckermedia.com/forum/rarities-unreleased/war-baby
To sign up for the Official Walter Becker newsletter or to change your subscription info,
http://walterbecker.com/news.html#subscribe
While we're at it, the Official Walter Becker website is at http://walterbecker.com
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Subject: Calling All Current SD Orchestra Members & Alums
The Dandom Digest would like to support your new album release by sending a special edition of the Dandom Digest. The Dandom Digest wants to do its part to help get the word out about your labor of love. The Dandom Digest goes to approximately 1,750 hardcore Steely Dan fans. Email jjmckay at me.com for info when the release is approaching. Thank you!
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Subject: RIP, Michael Lamper of Steely Jam
Condolences to Michael Lamper and Steely Jam, the SD tribute band. Lamper recently passed away right after one the Steely Jam's shows.
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Date: Wed, January 01, 2020, 23:42:14 ET
Posted by: hoops, chicago
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Re-Hear Michael Leonhart on NPR "Toast of the Town 2020"
Joe Jackson's Cover of Night By Night now on Apple Music
Beard + Herington Perform 2/23/20 in Toronto
Connor Kennedy Guests with Gov't Mule
Catherine Russell on NPR "'Fresh Air' Favorites"!
Jeff Baxter Guitar Player Magazine Redux
REDUX: December Shows Rescheduled For May
REDUX: Latest WB Demo, Newsletter
Calling All Current SD Orchestra Members & Alumns
RIP, Michael Lamper of Steely Jam
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Date: Mon, December 30, 2019, 21:45:59 ET
Posted by: The Dean, St. Augustine. Uptown, Baby!
What's the hubub, bub?
I have been absent for a few days as I'm trying to finish up a (local) move, and keep my business going through the holidays. Such joy!
Clifford is correct. I was wrong. I admit I haven't been keeping a real close eye on Van's tours lately as he doesn't seem to be ever be performing anywhere where I'm likely to attend. It seems his US venues seem to avoid northeast Florida.
But I was recalling what I remembered from earlier this century. According to fmsetlist: 19 shows in 2010, 5 shows in 2011, for example. I mistakenly concluded he was keeping the same sort of schedule. I know fmsetlist makes a lot of mistakes, but I'm going to assume it's close enough on this sort of info.
I've been wrong before and I'm sure this won't be the last time.
With that said, I'll get back to my thankless fucking moving nightmare.
Happy New Year to everyone in the greater Dandom universe.
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